1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,150 The internet is a wonderful thing. Its 2 00:00:04,150 --> 00:00:04,160 The internet is a wonderful thing. Its 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,150 The internet is a wonderful thing. Its very existence has caused such an 4 00:00:06,150 --> 00:00:06,160 very existence has caused such an 5 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,470 very existence has caused such an enormous reframing of our lives that it 6 00:00:08,470 --> 00:00:08,480 enormous reframing of our lives that it 7 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,390 enormous reframing of our lives that it has left the current generation with a 8 00:00:10,390 --> 00:00:10,400 has left the current generation with a 9 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,709 has left the current generation with a genuine inability to imagine what life 10 00:00:12,709 --> 00:00:12,719 genuine inability to imagine what life 11 00:00:12,719 --> 00:00:15,270 genuine inability to imagine what life was like before it existed. We can joke 12 00:00:15,270 --> 00:00:15,280 was like before it existed. We can joke 13 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,430 was like before it existed. We can joke all we want about the dank recesses of 14 00:00:17,430 --> 00:00:17,440 all we want about the dank recesses of 15 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,830 all we want about the dank recesses of Tik Tok and YouTube shorts where brain 16 00:00:19,830 --> 00:00:19,840 Tik Tok and YouTube shorts where brain 17 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,070 Tik Tok and YouTube shorts where brain cells go to die or the apocalyptic 18 00:00:22,070 --> 00:00:22,080 cells go to die or the apocalyptic 19 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:24,230 cells go to die or the apocalyptic levels of cringe consistently blasted 20 00:00:24,230 --> 00:00:24,240 levels of cringe consistently blasted 21 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:26,310 levels of cringe consistently blasted out by fans of every franchise in the 22 00:00:26,310 --> 00:00:26,320 out by fans of every franchise in the 23 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:27,830 out by fans of every franchise in the world. But the internet and the 24 00:00:27,830 --> 00:00:27,840 world. But the internet and the 25 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,830 world. But the internet and the creations it has allowed for have no 26 00:00:29,830 --> 00:00:29,840 creations it has allowed for have no 27 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,750 creations it has allowed for have no doubt vastly influenced the lives of 28 00:00:31,750 --> 00:00:31,760 doubt vastly influenced the lives of 29 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,910 doubt vastly influenced the lives of every single person watching this video. 30 00:00:33,910 --> 00:00:33,920 every single person watching this video. 31 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,150 every single person watching this video. I know you're all terminally online. But 32 00:00:36,150 --> 00:00:36,160 I know you're all terminally online. But 33 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:38,470 I know you're all terminally online. But the internet can be poisonous, too. It 34 00:00:38,470 --> 00:00:38,480 the internet can be poisonous, too. It 35 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:40,470 the internet can be poisonous, too. It allows for the festering of degeneracy 36 00:00:40,470 --> 00:00:40,480 allows for the festering of degeneracy 37 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:42,630 allows for the festering of degeneracy and the corrosion of morality. And these 38 00:00:42,630 --> 00:00:42,640 and the corrosion of morality. And these 39 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,470 and the corrosion of morality. And these things can occur not only in its 40 00:00:44,470 --> 00:00:44,480 things can occur not only in its 41 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:46,869 things can occur not only in its deepest, darkest corners, but sometimes 42 00:00:46,869 --> 00:00:46,879 deepest, darkest corners, but sometimes 43 00:00:46,879 --> 00:00:49,350 deepest, darkest corners, but sometimes out in the open for everyone to see. And 44 00:00:49,350 --> 00:00:49,360 out in the open for everyone to see. And 45 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,270 out in the open for everyone to see. And although I acknowledge the wondrousness 46 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:51,280 although I acknowledge the wondrousness 47 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,950 although I acknowledge the wondrousness of the internet and I have a lot of 48 00:00:52,950 --> 00:00:52,960 of the internet and I have a lot of 49 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,630 of the internet and I have a lot of appreciation for all the ways it's 50 00:00:54,630 --> 00:00:54,640 appreciation for all the ways it's 51 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,950 appreciation for all the ways it's improved our lives, the jaw my 49ers 52 00:00:56,950 --> 00:00:56,960 improved our lives, the jaw my 49ers 53 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,549 improved our lives, the jaw my 49ers should know by now that those things are 54 00:00:58,549 --> 00:00:58,559 should know by now that those things are 55 00:00:58,559 --> 00:01:00,869 should know by now that those things are not what interest me the most. What I am 56 00:01:00,869 --> 00:01:00,879 not what interest me the most. What I am 57 00:01:00,879 --> 00:01:02,869 not what interest me the most. What I am most fascinated by are the tales of the 58 00:01:02,869 --> 00:01:02,879 most fascinated by are the tales of the 59 00:01:02,879 --> 00:01:05,350 most fascinated by are the tales of the darker side of the internet. And so when 60 00:01:05,350 --> 00:01:05,360 darker side of the internet. And so when 61 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,990 darker side of the internet. And so when after I uploaded my video about Cristali 62 00:01:07,990 --> 00:01:08,000 after I uploaded my video about Cristali 63 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,830 after I uploaded my video about Cristali late last year, I started getting 64 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:09,840 late last year, I started getting 65 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,750 late last year, I started getting comments about one of the creators whose 66 00:01:11,750 --> 00:01:11,760 comments about one of the creators whose 67 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,149 comments about one of the creators whose posts I'd shown on screen and 68 00:01:14,149 --> 00:01:14,159 posts I'd shown on screen and 69 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:16,149 posts I'd shown on screen and specifically about how this creator had 70 00:01:16,149 --> 00:01:16,159 specifically about how this creator had 71 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:18,469 specifically about how this creator had been accused of being a degenerate and a 72 00:01:18,469 --> 00:01:18,479 been accused of being a degenerate and a 73 00:01:18,479 --> 00:01:20,789 been accused of being a degenerate and a groomer in a series of callout documents 74 00:01:20,789 --> 00:01:20,799 groomer in a series of callout documents 75 00:01:20,799 --> 00:01:24,149 groomer in a series of callout documents totaling nearly 300 pages. Well, I 76 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:24,159 totaling nearly 300 pages. Well, I 77 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:26,070 totaling nearly 300 pages. Well, I decided to look into it and what I 78 00:01:26,070 --> 00:01:26,080 decided to look into it and what I 79 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,749 decided to look into it and what I discovered was quite the degenerate 80 00:01:27,749 --> 00:01:27,759 discovered was quite the degenerate 81 00:01:27,759 --> 00:01:30,070 discovered was quite the degenerate ride. The individual we find ourselves 82 00:01:30,070 --> 00:01:30,080 ride. The individual we find ourselves 83 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,069 ride. The individual we find ourselves discussing here today is an animator 84 00:01:32,069 --> 00:01:32,079 discussing here today is an animator 85 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:34,310 discussing here today is an animator known as Ciney Bear03. And the 86 00:01:34,310 --> 00:01:34,320 known as Ciney Bear03. And the 87 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:36,390 known as Ciney Bear03. And the controversy that erupted around her in 88 00:01:36,390 --> 00:01:36,400 controversy that erupted around her in 89 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,870 controversy that erupted around her in September of 2024 was among the most 90 00:01:38,870 --> 00:01:38,880 September of 2024 was among the most 91 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,789 September of 2024 was among the most insane I've ever witnessed on the 92 00:01:40,789 --> 00:01:40,799 insane I've ever witnessed on the 93 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:42,550 insane I've ever witnessed on the internet. Over the course of my time 94 00:01:42,550 --> 00:01:42,560 internet. Over the course of my time 95 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,870 internet. Over the course of my time online, I've seen no shortage of exposed 96 00:01:44,870 --> 00:01:44,880 online, I've seen no shortage of exposed 97 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,270 online, I've seen no shortage of exposed videos and callout posts accusing online 98 00:01:47,270 --> 00:01:47,280 videos and callout posts accusing online 99 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,510 videos and callout posts accusing online figures of doing something deplorable. 100 00:01:49,510 --> 00:01:49,520 figures of doing something deplorable. 101 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,429 figures of doing something deplorable. And I've seen many an online titan 102 00:01:51,429 --> 00:01:51,439 And I've seen many an online titan 103 00:01:51,439 --> 00:01:53,190 And I've seen many an online titan felled by the consequences of their 104 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:53,200 felled by the consequences of their 105 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,270 felled by the consequences of their actions. But I have to say this 106 00:01:55,270 --> 00:01:55,280 actions. But I have to say this 107 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,830 actions. But I have to say this situation has shown me many firsts. For 108 00:01:57,830 --> 00:01:57,840 situation has shown me many firsts. For 109 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,990 situation has shown me many firsts. For example, it was the first instance I've 110 00:01:59,990 --> 00:02:00,000 example, it was the first instance I've 111 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,990 example, it was the first instance I've seen of a call out video starting with 112 00:02:01,990 --> 00:02:02,000 seen of a call out video starting with 113 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,670 seen of a call out video starting with the uploader saying that they need to 114 00:02:03,670 --> 00:02:03,680 the uploader saying that they need to 115 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,429 the uploader saying that they need to keep their voice down because the 116 00:02:05,429 --> 00:02:05,439 keep their voice down because the 117 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:07,510 keep their voice down because the subject of the video was in the other 118 00:02:07,510 --> 00:02:07,520 subject of the video was in the other 119 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,830 subject of the video was in the other room while they were recording. It was 120 00:02:09,830 --> 00:02:09,840 room while they were recording. It was 121 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,589 room while they were recording. It was the first time I'd seen someone post an 122 00:02:11,589 --> 00:02:11,599 the first time I'd seen someone post an 123 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:13,750 the first time I'd seen someone post an apology video for what they called, in 124 00:02:13,750 --> 00:02:13,760 apology video for what they called, in 125 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,150 apology video for what they called, in their own words, grooming a minor, only 126 00:02:16,150 --> 00:02:16,160 their own words, grooming a minor, only 127 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,070 their own words, grooming a minor, only for them to turn around, delete that 128 00:02:18,070 --> 00:02:18,080 for them to turn around, delete that 129 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,150 for them to turn around, delete that video, and make a new response like they 130 00:02:20,150 --> 00:02:20,160 video, and make a new response like they 131 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,910 video, and make a new response like they were resetting a video game at a 132 00:02:21,910 --> 00:02:21,920 were resetting a video game at a 133 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:24,309 were resetting a video game at a checkpoint. And finally, it was the 134 00:02:24,309 --> 00:02:24,319 checkpoint. And finally, it was the 135 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:26,630 checkpoint. And finally, it was the first time I'd seen a rotating roster of 136 00:02:26,630 --> 00:02:26,640 first time I'd seen a rotating roster of 137 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:28,229 first time I'd seen a rotating roster of commentators go out of their way to 138 00:02:28,229 --> 00:02:28,239 commentators go out of their way to 139 00:02:28,239 --> 00:02:30,070 commentators go out of their way to defend someone accused of being a creep, 140 00:02:30,070 --> 00:02:30,080 defend someone accused of being a creep, 141 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,070 defend someone accused of being a creep, only to flush their online careers 142 00:02:32,070 --> 00:02:32,080 only to flush their online careers 143 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,150 only to flush their online careers directly down the Skibbidity toilet. The 144 00:02:34,150 --> 00:02:34,160 directly down the Skibbidity toilet. The 145 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,790 directly down the Skibbidity toilet. The Cine Bear 03 situation is one that began 146 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:36,800 Cine Bear 03 situation is one that began 147 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,710 Cine Bear 03 situation is one that began with serious allegations, but which 148 00:02:38,710 --> 00:02:38,720 with serious allegations, but which 149 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,869 with serious allegations, but which quickly devolved into a multic community 150 00:02:40,869 --> 00:02:40,879 quickly devolved into a multic community 151 00:02:40,879 --> 00:02:43,509 quickly devolved into a multic community drama involving extremely personal slap 152 00:02:43,509 --> 00:02:43,519 drama involving extremely personal slap 153 00:02:43,519 --> 00:02:45,190 drama involving extremely personal slap fights, alleged death threats, 154 00:02:45,190 --> 00:02:45,200 fights, alleged death threats, 155 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,509 fights, alleged death threats, behindthe-scenes conspiracies, and white 156 00:02:47,509 --> 00:02:47,519 behindthe-scenes conspiracies, and white 157 00:02:47,519 --> 00:02:50,150 behindthe-scenes conspiracies, and white knighting on a scale hitherto undret of. 158 00:02:50,150 --> 00:02:50,160 knighting on a scale hitherto undret of. 159 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,070 knighting on a scale hitherto undret of. All of which took the internet by storm 160 00:02:52,070 --> 00:02:52,080 All of which took the internet by storm 161 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,750 All of which took the internet by storm and led to so many degenerate 162 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:53,760 and led to so many degenerate 163 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,150 and led to so many degenerate revelations that nobody who goes outside 164 00:02:56,150 --> 00:02:56,160 revelations that nobody who goes outside 165 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,229 revelations that nobody who goes outside could possibly keep track of them. So 166 00:02:58,229 --> 00:02:58,239 could possibly keep track of them. So 167 00:02:58,239 --> 00:03:00,070 could possibly keep track of them. So you all can come to your own conclusions 168 00:03:00,070 --> 00:03:00,080 you all can come to your own conclusions 169 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,070 you all can come to your own conclusions about the quality of my social life once 170 00:03:02,070 --> 00:03:02,080 about the quality of my social life once 171 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,550 about the quality of my social life once this video is over. So buckle up, draw 172 00:03:04,550 --> 00:03:04,560 this video is over. So buckle up, draw 173 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,630 this video is over. So buckle up, draw my 49ers, because I'm here to tell you 174 00:03:06,630 --> 00:03:06,640 my 49ers, because I'm here to tell you 175 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:09,430 my 49ers, because I'm here to tell you all about the rise, fall, and aftermath 176 00:03:09,430 --> 00:03:09,440 all about the rise, fall, and aftermath 177 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,830 all about the rise, fall, and aftermath of yet another YouTube animation meme 178 00:03:11,830 --> 00:03:11,840 of yet another YouTube animation meme 179 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,830 of yet another YouTube animation meme degenerate. But of course, before we 180 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:13,840 degenerate. But of course, before we 181 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,589 degenerate. But of course, before we truly get started, it's time for a few 182 00:03:15,589 --> 00:03:15,599 truly get started, it's time for a few 183 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:17,350 truly get started, it's time for a few disclaimers. First of all, if you don't 184 00:03:17,350 --> 00:03:17,360 disclaimers. First of all, if you don't 185 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,110 disclaimers. First of all, if you don't want to see discussions of inappropriate 186 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:19,120 want to see discussions of inappropriate 187 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,350 want to see discussions of inappropriate interactions between adults and minors, 188 00:03:21,350 --> 00:03:21,360 interactions between adults and minors, 189 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,110 interactions between adults and minors, including alleged grooming and the 190 00:03:23,110 --> 00:03:23,120 including alleged grooming and the 191 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,869 including alleged grooming and the spreading of explicit materials, you 192 00:03:24,869 --> 00:03:24,879 spreading of explicit materials, you 193 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:26,550 spreading of explicit materials, you might want to set this video out. 194 00:03:26,550 --> 00:03:26,560 might want to set this video out. 195 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,390 might want to set this video out. Furthermore, throughout this video, I'll 196 00:03:28,390 --> 00:03:28,400 Furthermore, throughout this video, I'll 197 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,309 Furthermore, throughout this video, I'll be covering a lot of allegations made by 198 00:03:30,309 --> 00:03:30,319 be covering a lot of allegations made by 199 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:32,390 be covering a lot of allegations made by other people. As per usual, I will not 200 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:32,400 other people. As per usual, I will not 201 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,309 other people. As per usual, I will not be passing judgment on the allegations 202 00:03:34,309 --> 00:03:34,319 be passing judgment on the allegations 203 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:35,990 be passing judgment on the allegations contained in this video. I will simply 204 00:03:35,990 --> 00:03:36,000 contained in this video. I will simply 205 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,670 contained in this video. I will simply be covering what they are, who has made 206 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:37,680 be covering what they are, who has made 207 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,430 be covering what they are, who has made them, and what the reaction to them has 208 00:03:39,430 --> 00:03:39,440 them, and what the reaction to them has 209 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,110 them, and what the reaction to them has been, and I will let you all come to 210 00:03:41,110 --> 00:03:41,120 been, and I will let you all come to 211 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,270 been, and I will let you all come to your own conclusions. I will also be 212 00:03:43,270 --> 00:03:43,280 your own conclusions. I will also be 213 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,350 your own conclusions. I will also be including the documents and videos cited 214 00:03:45,350 --> 00:03:45,360 including the documents and videos cited 215 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,030 including the documents and videos cited in the description. So, if you want to 216 00:03:47,030 --> 00:03:47,040 in the description. So, if you want to 217 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,110 in the description. So, if you want to do research on your own, feel free to do 218 00:03:49,110 --> 00:03:49,120 do research on your own, feel free to do 219 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,110 do research on your own, feel free to do so. Though, obviously, be forewarned 220 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:51,120 so. Though, obviously, be forewarned 221 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,190 so. Though, obviously, be forewarned that the content may be disturbing. 222 00:03:53,190 --> 00:03:53,200 that the content may be disturbing. 223 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,270 that the content may be disturbing. Okay, with all that out of the way, 224 00:03:55,270 --> 00:03:55,280 Okay, with all that out of the way, 225 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,190 Okay, with all that out of the way, let's finally get started. 226 00:03:59,190 --> 00:03:59,200 227 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,910 Cinebear 03 is a YouTube animator with 228 00:04:01,910 --> 00:04:01,920 Cinebear 03 is a YouTube animator with 229 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,789 Cinebear 03 is a YouTube animator with more than 500,000 subscribers, though, 230 00:04:04,789 --> 00:04:04,799 more than 500,000 subscribers, though, 231 00:04:04,799 --> 00:04:06,550 more than 500,000 subscribers, though, she came close to falling below that 232 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:06,560 she came close to falling below that 233 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,789 she came close to falling below that number after the allegations led to her 234 00:04:08,789 --> 00:04:08,799 number after the allegations led to her 235 00:04:08,799 --> 00:04:11,509 number after the allegations led to her losing nearly 20,000 of them. Over the 236 00:04:11,509 --> 00:04:11,519 losing nearly 20,000 of them. Over the 237 00:04:11,519 --> 00:04:13,110 losing nearly 20,000 of them. Over the course of the decade her channel has 238 00:04:13,110 --> 00:04:13,120 course of the decade her channel has 239 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,710 course of the decade her channel has been on this site, her content has 240 00:04:14,710 --> 00:04:14,720 been on this site, her content has 241 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,710 been on this site, her content has changed drastically. Something that is 242 00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:16,720 changed drastically. Something that is 243 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,789 changed drastically. Something that is thoroughly unsurprising considering that 244 00:04:18,789 --> 00:04:18,799 thoroughly unsurprising considering that 245 00:04:18,799 --> 00:04:20,469 thoroughly unsurprising considering that she created her account when she was 246 00:04:20,469 --> 00:04:20,479 she created her account when she was 247 00:04:20,479 --> 00:04:23,430 she created her account when she was only 10 years old. And side note, that 248 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:23,440 only 10 years old. And side note, that 249 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,670 only 10 years old. And side note, that would make her 21 years old in current 250 00:04:25,670 --> 00:04:25,680 would make her 21 years old in current 251 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,430 would make her 21 years old in current day. And if you're wondering why I'm 252 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:27,440 day. And if you're wondering why I'm 253 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,510 day. And if you're wondering why I'm bringing up her age now, it's a topic 254 00:04:29,510 --> 00:04:29,520 bringing up her age now, it's a topic 255 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,830 bringing up her age now, it's a topic that's going to come up a lot later. 256 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:31,840 that's going to come up a lot later. 257 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:33,749 that's going to come up a lot later. Now, although the name that was totally 258 00:04:33,749 --> 00:04:33,759 Now, although the name that was totally 259 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:35,430 Now, although the name that was totally flogged all throughout the animation 260 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:35,440 flogged all throughout the animation 261 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,749 flogged all throughout the animation meme community and beyond late last 262 00:04:37,749 --> 00:04:37,759 meme community and beyond late last 263 00:04:37,759 --> 00:04:40,710 meme community and beyond late last year, is Cinebear 03, Cynthia, the 264 00:04:40,710 --> 00:04:40,720 year, is Cinebear 03, Cynthia, the 265 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,390 year, is Cinebear 03, Cynthia, the person behind the channel, has not 266 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:42,400 person behind the channel, has not 267 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,950 person behind the channel, has not always gone by this name online. Rather, 268 00:04:44,950 --> 00:04:44,960 always gone by this name online. Rather, 269 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,469 always gone by this name online. Rather, she has gone by a couple of different 270 00:04:46,469 --> 00:04:46,479 she has gone by a couple of different 271 00:04:46,479 --> 00:04:47,830 she has gone by a couple of different names throughout her time on the 272 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:47,840 names throughout her time on the 273 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:50,070 names throughout her time on the platform. But most significantly, when 274 00:04:50,070 --> 00:04:50,080 platform. But most significantly, when 275 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,150 platform. But most significantly, when she first began to amass a significant 276 00:04:52,150 --> 00:04:52,160 she first began to amass a significant 277 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,070 she first began to amass a significant amount of followers, she was known as 278 00:04:54,070 --> 00:04:54,080 amount of followers, she was known as 279 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,469 amount of followers, she was known as Scootaloo Loves Sans with the name 280 00:04:56,469 --> 00:04:56,479 Scootaloo Loves Sans with the name 281 00:04:56,479 --> 00:04:57,830 Scootaloo Loves Sans with the name combining two of her favorite 282 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:57,840 combining two of her favorite 283 00:04:57,840 --> 00:04:59,830 combining two of her favorite characters. Scootaloo from My Little 284 00:04:59,830 --> 00:04:59,840 characters. Scootaloo from My Little 285 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:02,310 characters. Scootaloo from My Little Pony and Sans from Undertale. As we'll 286 00:05:02,310 --> 00:05:02,320 Pony and Sans from Undertale. As we'll 287 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,390 Pony and Sans from Undertale. As we'll discuss more in depth later, Cine Bear 288 00:05:04,390 --> 00:05:04,400 discuss more in depth later, Cine Bear 289 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,230 discuss more in depth later, Cine Bear has exhibited throughout her time online 290 00:05:06,230 --> 00:05:06,240 has exhibited throughout her time online 291 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,629 has exhibited throughout her time online an enduring tendency to become obsessed 292 00:05:08,629 --> 00:05:08,639 an enduring tendency to become obsessed 293 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:10,870 an enduring tendency to become obsessed with fictional characters. And while in 294 00:05:10,870 --> 00:05:10,880 with fictional characters. And while in 295 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,270 with fictional characters. And while in later times this obsession would become 296 00:05:13,270 --> 00:05:13,280 later times this obsession would become 297 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:15,909 later times this obsession would become less uh innocent, at this point it 298 00:05:15,909 --> 00:05:15,919 less uh innocent, at this point it 299 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:17,830 less uh innocent, at this point it merely led to her content consisting 300 00:05:17,830 --> 00:05:17,840 merely led to her content consisting 301 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:20,710 merely led to her content consisting mainly of fanfictions, animation memes, 302 00:05:20,710 --> 00:05:20,720 mainly of fanfictions, animation memes, 303 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,629 mainly of fanfictions, animation memes, and speed draws featuring characters 304 00:05:22,629 --> 00:05:22,639 and speed draws featuring characters 305 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:25,430 and speed draws featuring characters from these two franchises. For example, 306 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:25,440 from these two franchises. For example, 307 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,430 from these two franchises. For example, her very first video, which was uploaded 308 00:05:27,430 --> 00:05:27,440 her very first video, which was uploaded 309 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,310 her very first video, which was uploaded in 2015, was essentially a homemade My 310 00:05:30,310 --> 00:05:30,320 in 2015, was essentially a homemade My 311 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,390 in 2015, was essentially a homemade My Little Pony fanfiction comic that had 312 00:05:32,390 --> 00:05:32,400 Little Pony fanfiction comic that had 313 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,230 Little Pony fanfiction comic that had been edited together and played over 314 00:05:34,230 --> 00:05:34,240 been edited together and played over 315 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,550 been edited together and played over music. Cinebear's channel first started 316 00:05:36,550 --> 00:05:36,560 music. Cinebear's channel first started 317 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,430 music. Cinebear's channel first started to gain traction in 2017 with the upload 318 00:05:39,430 --> 00:05:39,440 to gain traction in 2017 with the upload 319 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,990 to gain traction in 2017 with the upload of videos like Sans is bored, which 320 00:05:41,990 --> 00:05:42,000 of videos like Sans is bored, which 321 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,150 of videos like Sans is bored, which featured drawings of various Undertale 322 00:05:44,150 --> 00:05:44,160 featured drawings of various Undertale 323 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,110 featured drawings of various Undertale characters over popular Vine audios and 324 00:05:47,110 --> 00:05:47,120 characters over popular Vine audios and 325 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,670 characters over popular Vine audios and hot milk meme, which is whatever this 326 00:05:49,670 --> 00:05:49,680 hot milk meme, which is whatever this 327 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,749 hot milk meme, which is whatever this is. Both of which obtained very 328 00:05:51,749 --> 00:05:51,759 is. Both of which obtained very 329 00:05:51,759 --> 00:05:54,310 is. Both of which obtained very respectable view counts. However, things 330 00:05:54,310 --> 00:05:54,320 respectable view counts. However, things 331 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:55,990 respectable view counts. However, things really started to ramp up when she 332 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:56,000 really started to ramp up when she 333 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,270 really started to ramp up when she uploaded timelapse meme Scootaloo and 334 00:05:59,270 --> 00:05:59,280 uploaded timelapse meme Scootaloo and 335 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:01,749 uploaded timelapse meme Scootaloo and Rainbow Dash. an absolute banger of a 336 00:06:01,749 --> 00:06:01,759 Rainbow Dash. an absolute banger of a 337 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:04,710 Rainbow Dash. an absolute banger of a video that blew up, receiving upwards of 338 00:06:04,710 --> 00:06:04,720 video that blew up, receiving upwards of 339 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,150 video that blew up, receiving upwards of 22 million views. Honestly, the fact 340 00:06:08,150 --> 00:06:08,160 22 million views. Honestly, the fact 341 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,230 22 million views. Honestly, the fact that this single video has more than 10 342 00:06:10,230 --> 00:06:10,240 that this single video has more than 10 343 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,070 that this single video has more than 10 times the amount of views I've ever 344 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:12,080 times the amount of views I've ever 345 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,670 times the amount of views I've ever received, makes me want to quit the 346 00:06:13,670 --> 00:06:13,680 received, makes me want to quit the 347 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,670 received, makes me want to quit the video essays and just put the brony 348 00:06:15,670 --> 00:06:15,680 video essays and just put the brony 349 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,390 video essays and just put the brony content in the bag. Horse fame, here I 350 00:06:18,390 --> 00:06:18,400 content in the bag. Horse fame, here I 351 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,950 content in the bag. Horse fame, here I come. Alongside her YouTube channel, 352 00:06:20,950 --> 00:06:20,960 come. Alongside her YouTube channel, 353 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,990 come. Alongside her YouTube channel, Ciney Bear, or I guess I should say Scoo 354 00:06:23,990 --> 00:06:24,000 Ciney Bear, or I guess I should say Scoo 355 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,990 Ciney Bear, or I guess I should say Scoo at this point, also ran accounts on 356 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:26,000 at this point, also ran accounts on 357 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,909 at this point, also ran accounts on various other sites where she would post 358 00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:27,919 various other sites where she would post 359 00:06:27,919 --> 00:06:29,590 various other sites where she would post more of her artwork, including 360 00:06:29,590 --> 00:06:29,600 more of her artwork, including 361 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,150 more of her artwork, including Instagram, DeviantArt Art, and Twitter. 362 00:06:32,150 --> 00:06:32,160 Instagram, DeviantArt Art, and Twitter. 363 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,230 Instagram, DeviantArt Art, and Twitter. And naturally, as her YouTube following 364 00:06:34,230 --> 00:06:34,240 And naturally, as her YouTube following 365 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,230 And naturally, as her YouTube following began to expand, so too did the 366 00:06:36,230 --> 00:06:36,240 began to expand, so too did the 367 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,469 began to expand, so too did the attention on these other accounts. While 368 00:06:38,469 --> 00:06:38,479 attention on these other accounts. While 369 00:06:38,479 --> 00:06:40,150 attention on these other accounts. While she would first populate these pages 370 00:06:40,150 --> 00:06:40,160 she would first populate these pages 371 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,469 she would first populate these pages with posts relating to more seemingly 372 00:06:42,469 --> 00:06:42,479 with posts relating to more seemingly 373 00:06:42,479 --> 00:06:44,469 with posts relating to more seemingly innocuous fanfictions, like her 374 00:06:44,469 --> 00:06:44,479 innocuous fanfictions, like her 375 00:06:44,479 --> 00:06:47,270 innocuous fanfictions, like her crossover between MLP and Undertale 376 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:47,280 crossover between MLP and Undertale 377 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:49,749 crossover between MLP and Undertale titled Ponytail, the art she published 378 00:06:49,749 --> 00:06:49,759 titled Ponytail, the art she published 379 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:51,749 titled Ponytail, the art she published in later years would actually go on to 380 00:06:51,749 --> 00:06:51,759 in later years would actually go on to 381 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:53,110 in later years would actually go on to attract a fair bit of negative 382 00:06:53,110 --> 00:06:53,120 attract a fair bit of negative 383 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,189 attract a fair bit of negative attention. But we're getting ahead of 384 00:06:55,189 --> 00:06:55,199 attention. But we're getting ahead of 385 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:57,270 attention. But we're getting ahead of ourselves. Contrary to what I would 386 00:06:57,270 --> 00:06:57,280 ourselves. Contrary to what I would 387 00:06:57,280 --> 00:06:59,350 ourselves. Contrary to what I would normally do on this channel, I'm not 388 00:06:59,350 --> 00:06:59,360 normally do on this channel, I'm not 389 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,350 normally do on this channel, I'm not actually going to be going very indepth 390 00:07:01,350 --> 00:07:01,360 actually going to be going very indepth 391 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,589 actually going to be going very indepth on Cinebear's backstory prior to the 392 00:07:03,589 --> 00:07:03,599 on Cinebear's backstory prior to the 393 00:07:03,599 --> 00:07:05,430 on Cinebear's backstory prior to the most recent events which led to her 394 00:07:05,430 --> 00:07:05,440 most recent events which led to her 395 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,430 most recent events which led to her downfall. mostly because I'll be 396 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:07,440 downfall. mostly because I'll be 397 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,350 downfall. mostly because I'll be dedicating a very significant amount of 398 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:09,360 dedicating a very significant amount of 399 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,110 dedicating a very significant amount of time to discussing the drama that 400 00:07:11,110 --> 00:07:11,120 time to discussing the drama that 401 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,950 time to discussing the drama that resulted from the allegations against 402 00:07:12,950 --> 00:07:12,960 resulted from the allegations against 403 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,990 resulted from the allegations against her in 2024. And compared to that, the 404 00:07:15,990 --> 00:07:16,000 her in 2024. And compared to that, the 405 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,230 her in 2024. And compared to that, the early years of her career are for the 406 00:07:18,230 --> 00:07:18,240 early years of her career are for the 407 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,469 early years of her career are for the most part, frankly, not of particular 408 00:07:20,469 --> 00:07:20,479 most part, frankly, not of particular 409 00:07:20,479 --> 00:07:22,710 most part, frankly, not of particular interest. Instead, I'm just going to 410 00:07:22,710 --> 00:07:22,720 interest. Instead, I'm just going to 411 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,629 interest. Instead, I'm just going to give you the cliff notes setting up a 412 00:07:24,629 --> 00:07:24,639 give you the cliff notes setting up a 413 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:26,629 give you the cliff notes setting up a few major characters and concerning 414 00:07:26,629 --> 00:07:26,639 few major characters and concerning 415 00:07:26,639 --> 00:07:28,629 few major characters and concerning trends in Cinebear's behavior that would 416 00:07:28,629 --> 00:07:28,639 trends in Cinebear's behavior that would 417 00:07:28,639 --> 00:07:30,230 trends in Cinebear's behavior that would come up multiple times throughout her 418 00:07:30,230 --> 00:07:30,240 come up multiple times throughout her 419 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,629 come up multiple times throughout her online career up until its untimely 420 00:07:32,629 --> 00:07:32,639 online career up until its untimely 421 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:34,870 online career up until its untimely demise. Although Cine Bear would find 422 00:07:34,870 --> 00:07:34,880 demise. Although Cine Bear would find 423 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,870 demise. Although Cine Bear would find herself in a couple of spats with other 424 00:07:36,870 --> 00:07:36,880 herself in a couple of spats with other 425 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,790 herself in a couple of spats with other creators during her first few years of 426 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:38,800 creators during her first few years of 427 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,189 creators during her first few years of uploading, these generally consisted of 428 00:07:41,189 --> 00:07:41,199 uploading, these generally consisted of 429 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:43,510 uploading, these generally consisted of petty dramas relating to topics that 430 00:07:43,510 --> 00:07:43,520 petty dramas relating to topics that 431 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,510 petty dramas relating to topics that likely wouldn't interest anyone outside 432 00:07:45,510 --> 00:07:45,520 likely wouldn't interest anyone outside 433 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,070 likely wouldn't interest anyone outside the art commentary or animation meme 434 00:07:48,070 --> 00:07:48,080 the art commentary or animation meme 435 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,070 the art commentary or animation meme communities. And they also resolved 436 00:07:50,070 --> 00:07:50,080 communities. And they also resolved 437 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,390 communities. And they also resolved themselves relatively quickly with few 438 00:07:52,390 --> 00:07:52,400 themselves relatively quickly with few 439 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,790 themselves relatively quickly with few long-term consequences. The first time 440 00:07:54,790 --> 00:07:54,800 long-term consequences. The first time 441 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,469 long-term consequences. The first time she would find herself in truly hot 442 00:07:56,469 --> 00:07:56,479 she would find herself in truly hot 443 00:07:56,479 --> 00:07:59,430 she would find herself in truly hot water wasn't actually until mid2020 when 444 00:07:59,430 --> 00:07:59,440 water wasn't actually until mid2020 when 445 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,749 water wasn't actually until mid2020 when she painted a target on her back by 446 00:08:01,749 --> 00:08:01,759 she painted a target on her back by 447 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:03,670 she painted a target on her back by associating with potentially one of the 448 00:08:03,670 --> 00:08:03,680 associating with potentially one of the 449 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,990 associating with potentially one of the most controversial figures to ever touch 450 00:08:05,990 --> 00:08:06,000 most controversial figures to ever touch 451 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,950 most controversial figures to ever touch the internet. Birdie. Birdie is a figure 452 00:08:08,950 --> 00:08:08,960 the internet. Birdie. Birdie is a figure 453 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,110 the internet. Birdie. Birdie is a figure that has been contentious since the very 454 00:08:11,110 --> 00:08:11,120 that has been contentious since the very 455 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,189 that has been contentious since the very inception of his internet presence. 456 00:08:13,189 --> 00:08:13,199 inception of his internet presence. 457 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:14,790 inception of his internet presence. Having been the subject of so many 458 00:08:14,790 --> 00:08:14,800 Having been the subject of so many 459 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,950 Having been the subject of so many dramas over the years that I genuinely 460 00:08:16,950 --> 00:08:16,960 dramas over the years that I genuinely 461 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,390 dramas over the years that I genuinely wouldn't know where to start when 462 00:08:18,390 --> 00:08:18,400 wouldn't know where to start when 463 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,629 wouldn't know where to start when describing his online career. He has 464 00:08:20,629 --> 00:08:20,639 describing his online career. He has 465 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:23,110 describing his online career. He has been accused of many, many things over 466 00:08:23,110 --> 00:08:23,120 been accused of many, many things over 467 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,070 been accused of many, many things over the years, and even now, new allegations 468 00:08:26,070 --> 00:08:26,080 the years, and even now, new allegations 469 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,550 the years, and even now, new allegations against him continue to emerge, some of 470 00:08:28,550 --> 00:08:28,560 against him continue to emerge, some of 471 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,029 against him continue to emerge, some of which will be more relevant later. In 472 00:08:31,029 --> 00:08:31,039 which will be more relevant later. In 473 00:08:31,039 --> 00:08:33,670 which will be more relevant later. In 2020, birdie drama was seemingly at an 474 00:08:33,670 --> 00:08:33,680 2020, birdie drama was seemingly at an 475 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:35,670 2020, birdie drama was seemingly at an all-time high in the art commentary 476 00:08:35,670 --> 00:08:35,680 all-time high in the art commentary 477 00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:38,389 all-time high in the art commentary community as rant video after rant video 478 00:08:38,389 --> 00:08:38,399 community as rant video after rant video 479 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:40,389 community as rant video after rant video was pumped out reporting claims that 480 00:08:40,389 --> 00:08:40,399 was pumped out reporting claims that 481 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:42,790 was pumped out reporting claims that Birdie had persistently harassed and 482 00:08:42,790 --> 00:08:42,800 Birdie had persistently harassed and 483 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,190 Birdie had persistently harassed and even doxed his exartner, publicly 484 00:08:45,190 --> 00:08:45,200 even doxed his exartner, publicly 485 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,990 even doxed his exartner, publicly fantasized about kidnapping and doing 486 00:08:47,990 --> 00:08:48,000 fantasized about kidnapping and doing 487 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,389 fantasized about kidnapping and doing more to them and posted some truly 488 00:08:50,389 --> 00:08:50,399 more to them and posted some truly 489 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:52,949 more to them and posted some truly unhinged and obscene content featuring 490 00:08:52,949 --> 00:08:52,959 unhinged and obscene content featuring 491 00:08:52,959 --> 00:08:55,269 unhinged and obscene content featuring other online creators. As you might 492 00:08:55,269 --> 00:08:55,279 other online creators. As you might 493 00:08:55,279 --> 00:08:56,949 other online creators. As you might imagine, in the midst of all these 494 00:08:56,949 --> 00:08:56,959 imagine, in the midst of all these 495 00:08:56,959 --> 00:08:58,870 imagine, in the midst of all these claims, many in the community were 496 00:08:58,870 --> 00:08:58,880 claims, many in the community were 497 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,190 claims, many in the community were avoiding Birdie like the plague. Not 498 00:09:01,190 --> 00:09:01,200 avoiding Birdie like the plague. Not 499 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,110 avoiding Birdie like the plague. Not only because they may have been afraid 500 00:09:03,110 --> 00:09:03,120 only because they may have been afraid 501 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,350 only because they may have been afraid of him based on what they had heard, but 502 00:09:05,350 --> 00:09:05,360 of him based on what they had heard, but 503 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,509 of him based on what they had heard, but also because their viewers were 504 00:09:07,509 --> 00:09:07,519 also because their viewers were 505 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:09,829 also because their viewers were vehemently against any other creators 506 00:09:09,829 --> 00:09:09,839 vehemently against any other creators 507 00:09:09,839 --> 00:09:12,389 vehemently against any other creators associating with him in a positive way. 508 00:09:12,389 --> 00:09:12,399 associating with him in a positive way. 509 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:14,550 associating with him in a positive way. However, it seems that Cine Barrow 3 510 00:09:14,550 --> 00:09:14,560 However, it seems that Cine Barrow 3 511 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:16,790 However, it seems that Cine Barrow 3 didn't exactly get this memo as she 512 00:09:16,790 --> 00:09:16,800 didn't exactly get this memo as she 513 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,470 didn't exactly get this memo as she started to make it clear that she wanted 514 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:18,480 started to make it clear that she wanted 515 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,630 started to make it clear that she wanted to forge a relationship with Birdie, 516 00:09:20,630 --> 00:09:20,640 to forge a relationship with Birdie, 517 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,550 to forge a relationship with Birdie, depicting him in a positive way in her 518 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:22,560 depicting him in a positive way in her 519 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:24,790 depicting him in a positive way in her artwork, pinning his comments on her 520 00:09:24,790 --> 00:09:24,800 artwork, pinning his comments on her 521 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,790 artwork, pinning his comments on her videos, and making efforts to hang 522 00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:26,800 videos, and making efforts to hang 523 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,590 videos, and making efforts to hang around in his social circles. And when I 524 00:09:29,590 --> 00:09:29,600 around in his social circles. And when I 525 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,670 around in his social circles. And when I say that Cine Bear was depicting Birdie 526 00:09:31,670 --> 00:09:31,680 say that Cine Bear was depicting Birdie 527 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:34,150 say that Cine Bear was depicting Birdie in a positive way in her art, I don't 528 00:09:34,150 --> 00:09:34,160 in a positive way in her art, I don't 529 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,990 in a positive way in her art, I don't just mean that she was posting fan art 530 00:09:35,990 --> 00:09:36,000 just mean that she was posting fan art 531 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,070 just mean that she was posting fan art of him or collaborating with him or 532 00:09:38,070 --> 00:09:38,080 of him or collaborating with him or 533 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,150 of him or collaborating with him or something. It was much more personal 534 00:09:40,150 --> 00:09:40,160 something. It was much more personal 535 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,150 something. It was much more personal than that. And I think it's worth going 536 00:09:42,150 --> 00:09:42,160 than that. And I think it's worth going 537 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,710 than that. And I think it's worth going into just a bit because the relationship 538 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:44,720 into just a bit because the relationship 539 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,870 into just a bit because the relationship between Birdie and Cinebear will come up 540 00:09:46,870 --> 00:09:46,880 between Birdie and Cinebear will come up 541 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,350 between Birdie and Cinebear will come up a lot later in this video. Around summer 542 00:09:49,350 --> 00:09:49,360 a lot later in this video. Around summer 543 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,150 a lot later in this video. Around summer of 2020, Cinebear began posting artwork 544 00:09:52,150 --> 00:09:52,160 of 2020, Cinebear began posting artwork 545 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,790 of 2020, Cinebear began posting artwork of a group of people she referred to as 546 00:09:54,790 --> 00:09:54,800 of a group of people she referred to as 547 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,430 of a group of people she referred to as Vent Gang. This group consisted of 548 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:57,440 Vent Gang. This group consisted of 549 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,470 Vent Gang. This group consisted of Cinebear herself, her friend Laurel, an 550 00:10:00,470 --> 00:10:00,480 Cinebear herself, her friend Laurel, an 551 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,430 Cinebear herself, her friend Laurel, an animator known as Sashley, and Birdie. 552 00:10:03,430 --> 00:10:03,440 animator known as Sashley, and Birdie. 553 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,829 animator known as Sashley, and Birdie. and they fit into what Cinebear dubbed 554 00:10:05,829 --> 00:10:05,839 and they fit into what Cinebear dubbed 555 00:10:05,839 --> 00:10:08,470 and they fit into what Cinebear dubbed vent world, which was apparently a 556 00:10:08,470 --> 00:10:08,480 vent world, which was apparently a 557 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,430 vent world, which was apparently a mental Undertale alternate universe 558 00:10:11,430 --> 00:10:11,440 mental Undertale alternate universe 559 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,750 mental Undertale alternate universe contained completely within her head 560 00:10:13,750 --> 00:10:13,760 contained completely within her head 561 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,430 contained completely within her head that she would retreat to when she 562 00:10:15,430 --> 00:10:15,440 that she would retreat to when she 563 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,670 that she would retreat to when she wanted to get away from her life. In 564 00:10:17,670 --> 00:10:17,680 wanted to get away from her life. In 565 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:19,509 wanted to get away from her life. In making Birdie one of the characters in 566 00:10:19,509 --> 00:10:19,519 making Birdie one of the characters in 567 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:21,829 making Birdie one of the characters in her Undertale head cannon, people have 568 00:10:21,829 --> 00:10:21,839 her Undertale head cannon, people have 569 00:10:21,839 --> 00:10:24,150 her Undertale head cannon, people have since theorized that Cinebear literally 570 00:10:24,150 --> 00:10:24,160 since theorized that Cinebear literally 571 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,910 since theorized that Cinebear literally influenced the way she thought about 572 00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:25,920 influenced the way she thought about 573 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,470 influenced the way she thought about Birdie as a person since he was one of 574 00:10:28,470 --> 00:10:28,480 Birdie as a person since he was one of 575 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,030 Birdie as a person since he was one of the heroes in her mental world. I don't 576 00:10:31,030 --> 00:10:31,040 the heroes in her mental world. I don't 577 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,710 the heroes in her mental world. I don't know if I personally buy into that line 578 00:10:32,710 --> 00:10:32,720 know if I personally buy into that line 579 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,230 know if I personally buy into that line of thought, but I just wanted to 580 00:10:34,230 --> 00:10:34,240 of thought, but I just wanted to 581 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,389 of thought, but I just wanted to contextualize why exactly people had 582 00:10:36,389 --> 00:10:36,399 contextualize why exactly people had 583 00:10:36,399 --> 00:10:37,990 contextualize why exactly people had such a problem with Cinebear's 584 00:10:37,990 --> 00:10:38,000 such a problem with Cinebear's 585 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,069 such a problem with Cinebear's depictions of Birdie in her artwork 586 00:10:40,069 --> 00:10:40,079 depictions of Birdie in her artwork 587 00:10:40,079 --> 00:10:42,230 depictions of Birdie in her artwork because it goes beyond her just drawing 588 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:42,240 because it goes beyond her just drawing 589 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,790 because it goes beyond her just drawing a controversial creator. Also, I think 590 00:10:44,790 --> 00:10:44,800 a controversial creator. Also, I think 591 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,790 a controversial creator. Also, I think it's absolutely dystopian that someone 592 00:10:46,790 --> 00:10:46,800 it's absolutely dystopian that someone 593 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,949 it's absolutely dystopian that someone is allowed to overshare this much on the 594 00:10:48,949 --> 00:10:48,959 is allowed to overshare this much on the 595 00:10:48,959 --> 00:10:50,550 is allowed to overshare this much on the internet, but that's going to be a 596 00:10:50,550 --> 00:10:50,560 internet, but that's going to be a 597 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:52,550 internet, but that's going to be a pretty common theme in this story. 598 00:10:52,550 --> 00:10:52,560 pretty common theme in this story. 599 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:54,069 pretty common theme in this story. Around the time that all of this was 600 00:10:54,069 --> 00:10:54,079 Around the time that all of this was 601 00:10:54,079 --> 00:10:56,230 Around the time that all of this was occurring, a group of people dedicated 602 00:10:56,230 --> 00:10:56,240 occurring, a group of people dedicated 603 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,990 occurring, a group of people dedicated to documenting all of Birdie's 604 00:10:57,990 --> 00:10:58,000 to documenting all of Birdie's 605 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,389 to documenting all of Birdie's wrongdoings created a YouTube channel 606 00:11:00,389 --> 00:11:00,399 wrongdoings created a YouTube channel 607 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:03,350 wrongdoings created a YouTube channel called Evidence Found01 and began 608 00:11:03,350 --> 00:11:03,360 called Evidence Found01 and began 609 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,590 called Evidence Found01 and began publishing a long series of videos about 610 00:11:05,590 --> 00:11:05,600 publishing a long series of videos about 611 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,590 publishing a long series of videos about him. Now, one thing I will note here 612 00:11:07,590 --> 00:11:07,600 him. Now, one thing I will note here 613 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,230 him. Now, one thing I will note here about Evidence Found01 is that this 614 00:11:10,230 --> 00:11:10,240 about Evidence Found01 is that this 615 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,310 about Evidence Found01 is that this channel has since been taken down and 616 00:11:12,310 --> 00:11:12,320 channel has since been taken down and 617 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,230 channel has since been taken down and all the videos deleted. And I'm not 618 00:11:14,230 --> 00:11:14,240 all the videos deleted. And I'm not 619 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,470 all the videos deleted. And I'm not really sure why, but I'm not trying to 620 00:11:16,470 --> 00:11:16,480 really sure why, but I'm not trying to 621 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,949 really sure why, but I'm not trying to endorse their content or decisions. The 622 00:11:18,949 --> 00:11:18,959 endorse their content or decisions. The 623 00:11:18,959 --> 00:11:20,790 endorse their content or decisions. The main reason I'm bringing them up is 624 00:11:20,790 --> 00:11:20,800 main reason I'm bringing them up is 625 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,710 main reason I'm bringing them up is because after coming to the conclusion 626 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:22,720 because after coming to the conclusion 627 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,269 because after coming to the conclusion that Ciney Bear was trying to defend or 628 00:11:25,269 --> 00:11:25,279 that Ciney Bear was trying to defend or 629 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:27,670 that Ciney Bear was trying to defend or minimize Birdie's actions by portraying 630 00:11:27,670 --> 00:11:27,680 minimize Birdie's actions by portraying 631 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:30,150 minimize Birdie's actions by portraying him in a positive way to her audience, 632 00:11:30,150 --> 00:11:30,160 him in a positive way to her audience, 633 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,790 him in a positive way to her audience, evidence found saw fit to call her out, 634 00:11:32,790 --> 00:11:32,800 evidence found saw fit to call her out, 635 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,430 evidence found saw fit to call her out, dedicating a video specifically to her, 636 00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:35,440 dedicating a video specifically to her, 637 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,350 dedicating a video specifically to her, and this is what drew a lot of negative 638 00:11:37,350 --> 00:11:37,360 and this is what drew a lot of negative 639 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,150 and this is what drew a lot of negative attention to her channel. People would 640 00:11:40,150 --> 00:11:40,160 attention to her channel. People would 641 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,910 attention to her channel. People would only continue to grow more and more 642 00:11:41,910 --> 00:11:41,920 only continue to grow more and more 643 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,910 only continue to grow more and more rabid about the Cine Bear Birdie 644 00:11:43,910 --> 00:11:43,920 rabid about the Cine Bear Birdie 645 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,910 rabid about the Cine Bear Birdie connection over the coming months when 646 00:11:45,910 --> 00:11:45,920 connection over the coming months when 647 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,790 connection over the coming months when various DMs exchanged between Cine Bear 648 00:11:48,790 --> 00:11:48,800 various DMs exchanged between Cine Bear 649 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,430 various DMs exchanged between Cine Bear and her ex-girlfriend were leaked. DMs 650 00:11:51,430 --> 00:11:51,440 and her ex-girlfriend were leaked. DMs 651 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,430 and her ex-girlfriend were leaked. DMs that seem to suggest that Cdy Bear's 652 00:11:53,430 --> 00:11:53,440 that seem to suggest that Cdy Bear's 653 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,910 that seem to suggest that Cdy Bear's interest in Birdie went beyond what was 654 00:11:55,910 --> 00:11:55,920 interest in Birdie went beyond what was 655 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,069 interest in Birdie went beyond what was publicly known. They apparently showed 656 00:11:58,069 --> 00:11:58,079 publicly known. They apparently showed 657 00:11:58,079 --> 00:12:00,389 publicly known. They apparently showed that Cine Bear had a crush on Birdie at 658 00:12:00,389 --> 00:12:00,399 that Cine Bear had a crush on Birdie at 659 00:12:00,399 --> 00:12:02,069 that Cine Bear had a crush on Birdie at the time, which may have been 660 00:12:02,069 --> 00:12:02,079 the time, which may have been 661 00:12:02,079 --> 00:12:04,470 the time, which may have been influencing her actions. And though that 662 00:12:04,470 --> 00:12:04,480 influencing her actions. And though that 663 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,629 influencing her actions. And though that may sound like speculation, Cine Bear 664 00:12:06,629 --> 00:12:06,639 may sound like speculation, Cine Bear 665 00:12:06,639 --> 00:12:09,269 may sound like speculation, Cine Bear would go on to confirm it later. God, 666 00:12:09,269 --> 00:12:09,279 would go on to confirm it later. God, 667 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:11,110 would go on to confirm it later. God, this all sounds so ridiculous when I say 668 00:12:11,110 --> 00:12:11,120 this all sounds so ridiculous when I say 669 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,030 this all sounds so ridiculous when I say it. I feel like I'm a little girl again, 670 00:12:13,030 --> 00:12:13,040 it. I feel like I'm a little girl again, 671 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,470 it. I feel like I'm a little girl again, gossiping about crushes in the 672 00:12:14,470 --> 00:12:14,480 gossiping about crushes in the 673 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,790 gossiping about crushes in the schoolyard. But remember, people in the 674 00:12:16,790 --> 00:12:16,800 schoolyard. But remember, people in the 675 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,030 schoolyard. But remember, people in the community were up in arms about someone 676 00:12:19,030 --> 00:12:19,040 community were up in arms about someone 677 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,110 community were up in arms about someone drawing fan art of Birdie during this 678 00:12:21,110 --> 00:12:21,120 drawing fan art of Birdie during this 679 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,509 drawing fan art of Birdie during this period. So, the idea that Ciney Bear 680 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:23,519 period. So, the idea that Ciney Bear 681 00:12:23,519 --> 00:12:25,750 period. So, the idea that Ciney Bear wanted to date him was obviously 682 00:12:25,750 --> 00:12:25,760 wanted to date him was obviously 683 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,150 wanted to date him was obviously unacceptable to them. I just think it's 684 00:12:28,150 --> 00:12:28,160 unacceptable to them. I just think it's 685 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,629 unacceptable to them. I just think it's insane that I'm discussing crushes in a 686 00:12:30,629 --> 00:12:30,639 insane that I'm discussing crushes in a 687 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:32,870 insane that I'm discussing crushes in a drama retrospective video, but I 688 00:12:32,870 --> 00:12:32,880 drama retrospective video, but I 689 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,430 drama retrospective video, but I digress. This information combined with 690 00:12:35,430 --> 00:12:35,440 digress. This information combined with 691 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,509 digress. This information combined with other concerning aspects of the leaked 692 00:12:37,509 --> 00:12:37,519 other concerning aspects of the leaked 693 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:39,990 other concerning aspects of the leaked conversations which apparently depicted 694 00:12:39,990 --> 00:12:40,000 conversations which apparently depicted 695 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,949 conversations which apparently depicted Cinebear being fixated on the idea of 696 00:12:42,949 --> 00:12:42,959 Cinebear being fixated on the idea of 697 00:12:42,959 --> 00:12:45,990 Cinebear being fixated on the idea of getting uh essay to the point that many 698 00:12:45,990 --> 00:12:46,000 getting uh essay to the point that many 699 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,389 getting uh essay to the point that many people saw it as her downplaying or even 700 00:12:48,389 --> 00:12:48,399 people saw it as her downplaying or even 701 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:50,870 people saw it as her downplaying or even romanticizing rape led to people taking 702 00:12:50,870 --> 00:12:50,880 romanticizing rape led to people taking 703 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,269 romanticizing rape led to people taking an even closer look at her conduct. 704 00:12:53,269 --> 00:12:53,279 an even closer look at her conduct. 705 00:12:53,279 --> 00:12:55,110 an even closer look at her conduct. Especially considering that this was 706 00:12:55,110 --> 00:12:55,120 Especially considering that this was 707 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,030 Especially considering that this was something a lot of people considered 708 00:12:57,030 --> 00:12:57,040 something a lot of people considered 709 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,509 something a lot of people considered Birdie to be guilty of at the time, 710 00:12:59,509 --> 00:12:59,519 Birdie to be guilty of at the time, 711 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:01,509 Birdie to be guilty of at the time, leading many to believe that Cinebear 712 00:13:01,509 --> 00:13:01,519 leading many to believe that Cinebear 713 00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:03,750 leading many to believe that Cinebear was being influenced by him or following 714 00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:03,760 was being influenced by him or following 715 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,310 was being influenced by him or following in his footsteps. What would follow was 716 00:13:06,310 --> 00:13:06,320 in his footsteps. What would follow was 717 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,629 in his footsteps. What would follow was literal months of callouts as people 718 00:13:08,629 --> 00:13:08,639 literal months of callouts as people 719 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:10,870 literal months of callouts as people began to add to the everexpanding list 720 00:13:10,870 --> 00:13:10,880 began to add to the everexpanding list 721 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,470 began to add to the everexpanding list of grievances they had with Cinebear 03. 722 00:13:14,470 --> 00:13:14,480 of grievances they had with Cinebear 03. 723 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,629 of grievances they had with Cinebear 03. Namely, she was accused of romanticizing 724 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:16,639 Namely, she was accused of romanticizing 725 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:18,870 Namely, she was accused of romanticizing abuse throughout various of her vent 726 00:13:18,870 --> 00:13:18,880 abuse throughout various of her vent 727 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,269 abuse throughout various of her vent artworks and a comic series she made 728 00:13:21,269 --> 00:13:21,279 artworks and a comic series she made 729 00:13:21,279 --> 00:13:23,190 artworks and a comic series she made which revolved around an Undertale 730 00:13:23,190 --> 00:13:23,200 which revolved around an Undertale 731 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,750 which revolved around an Undertale alternate universe featuring an evil 732 00:13:25,750 --> 00:13:25,760 alternate universe featuring an evil 733 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,030 alternate universe featuring an evil version of Sans known as Nightmare. The 734 00:13:29,030 --> 00:13:29,040 version of Sans known as Nightmare. The 735 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,629 version of Sans known as Nightmare. The perception of this series was 736 00:13:30,629 --> 00:13:30,639 perception of this series was 737 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:32,310 perception of this series was significantly worsened by an 738 00:13:32,310 --> 00:13:32,320 significantly worsened by an 739 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,629 significantly worsened by an accompanying drawing Cine Bear made in 740 00:13:34,629 --> 00:13:34,639 accompanying drawing Cine Bear made in 741 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:37,269 accompanying drawing Cine Bear made in which she refers to Nightmare as her 742 00:13:37,269 --> 00:13:37,279 which she refers to Nightmare as her 743 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:40,629 which she refers to Nightmare as her quote abusive husband that doesn't fully 744 00:13:40,629 --> 00:13:40,639 quote abusive husband that doesn't fully 745 00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:43,590 quote abusive husband that doesn't fully understand love. which to many implied 746 00:13:43,590 --> 00:13:43,600 understand love. which to many implied 747 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,910 understand love. which to many implied that Cine Bear wanted to make domestic 748 00:13:45,910 --> 00:13:45,920 that Cine Bear wanted to make domestic 749 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,430 that Cine Bear wanted to make domestic abuse appear cutesy courtesy of the oo 750 00:13:49,430 --> 00:13:49,440 abuse appear cutesy courtesy of the oo 751 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,590 abuse appear cutesy courtesy of the oo accent. Over the course of the latter 752 00:13:51,590 --> 00:13:51,600 accent. Over the course of the latter 753 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,470 accent. Over the course of the latter half of 2020, this criticism along with 754 00:13:54,470 --> 00:13:54,480 half of 2020, this criticism along with 755 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,470 half of 2020, this criticism along with others related to her association with 756 00:13:56,470 --> 00:13:56,480 others related to her association with 757 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,470 others related to her association with Birdie and a few more I won't be going 758 00:13:58,470 --> 00:13:58,480 Birdie and a few more I won't be going 759 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,110 Birdie and a few more I won't be going into here led Cinebear to begin planning 760 00:14:01,110 --> 00:14:01,120 into here led Cinebear to begin planning 761 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,430 into here led Cinebear to begin planning a response. This began with her 762 00:14:03,430 --> 00:14:03,440 a response. This began with her 763 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,069 a response. This began with her uploading a video titled We Need to Talk 764 00:14:06,069 --> 00:14:06,079 uploading a video titled We Need to Talk 765 00:14:06,079 --> 00:14:09,110 uploading a video titled We Need to Talk in January of 2021, requesting that her 766 00:14:09,110 --> 00:14:09,120 in January of 2021, requesting that her 767 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,189 in January of 2021, requesting that her viewers leave comments describing any 768 00:14:11,189 --> 00:14:11,199 viewers leave comments describing any 769 00:14:11,199 --> 00:14:13,350 viewers leave comments describing any concerns they might have with her or her 770 00:14:13,350 --> 00:14:13,360 concerns they might have with her or her 771 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,990 concerns they might have with her or her content. Then 4 months later, she would 772 00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:16,000 content. Then 4 months later, she would 773 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,150 content. Then 4 months later, she would upload a video in which she responds to 774 00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:18,160 upload a video in which she responds to 775 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,389 upload a video in which she responds to many of these comments in a long-winded 776 00:14:20,389 --> 00:14:20,399 many of these comments in a long-winded 777 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:22,710 many of these comments in a long-winded apology for essentially every criticism 778 00:14:22,710 --> 00:14:22,720 apology for essentially every criticism 779 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,870 apology for essentially every criticism that had been sent her way. She would 780 00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:24,880 that had been sent her way. She would 781 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,030 that had been sent her way. She would explain away her romanticization of 782 00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:27,040 explain away her romanticization of 783 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,829 explain away her romanticization of abuse and essay by alluding to trauma 784 00:14:29,829 --> 00:14:29,839 abuse and essay by alluding to trauma 785 00:14:29,839 --> 00:14:31,670 abuse and essay by alluding to trauma she had apparently experienced in the 786 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:31,680 she had apparently experienced in the 787 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,670 she had apparently experienced in the past, which she claimed led her to 788 00:14:33,670 --> 00:14:33,680 past, which she claimed led her to 789 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,230 past, which she claimed led her to suffer from maladaptive daydreams in 790 00:14:36,230 --> 00:14:36,240 suffer from maladaptive daydreams in 791 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,790 suffer from maladaptive daydreams in which evil versions of Sans would attack 792 00:14:38,790 --> 00:14:38,800 which evil versions of Sans would attack 793 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,590 which evil versions of Sans would attack her, leading her to feel physical pain 794 00:14:41,590 --> 00:14:41,600 her, leading her to feel physical pain 795 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,670 her, leading her to feel physical pain and want to express this through her 796 00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:43,680 and want to express this through her 797 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,870 and want to express this through her art. If any of you guys are lost, I I'm 798 00:14:46,870 --> 00:14:46,880 art. If any of you guys are lost, I I'm 799 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,870 art. If any of you guys are lost, I I'm right there with you. She also addressed 800 00:14:48,870 --> 00:14:48,880 right there with you. She also addressed 801 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,030 right there with you. She also addressed her association with Birdie, claiming 802 00:14:51,030 --> 00:14:51,040 her association with Birdie, claiming 803 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,949 her association with Birdie, claiming that she essentially believed she could 804 00:14:52,949 --> 00:14:52,959 that she essentially believed she could 805 00:14:52,959 --> 00:14:54,310 that she essentially believed she could be friends with someone without 806 00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:54,320 be friends with someone without 807 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,550 be friends with someone without endorsing everything they have ever done 808 00:14:56,550 --> 00:14:56,560 endorsing everything they have ever done 809 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,230 endorsing everything they have ever done and that his potential wrongdoings 810 00:14:58,230 --> 00:14:58,240 and that his potential wrongdoings 811 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,310 and that his potential wrongdoings should be between him and the people he 812 00:15:00,310 --> 00:15:00,320 should be between him and the people he 813 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,949 should be between him and the people he affected. Overall, this video was 814 00:15:02,949 --> 00:15:02,959 affected. Overall, this video was 815 00:15:02,959 --> 00:15:05,189 affected. Overall, this video was received quite well and effectively 816 00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:05,199 received quite well and effectively 817 00:15:05,199 --> 00:15:07,750 received quite well and effectively quashed Zinny Bear's first major drama, 818 00:15:07,750 --> 00:15:07,760 quashed Zinny Bear's first major drama, 819 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,590 quashed Zinny Bear's first major drama, mostly due to the fact that while she 820 00:15:09,590 --> 00:15:09,600 mostly due to the fact that while she 821 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,910 mostly due to the fact that while she did provide explanations for her actions 822 00:15:11,910 --> 00:15:11,920 did provide explanations for her actions 823 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,670 did provide explanations for her actions throughout the response, her audience 824 00:15:13,670 --> 00:15:13,680 throughout the response, her audience 825 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,509 throughout the response, her audience did not interpret any of them as 826 00:15:15,509 --> 00:15:15,519 did not interpret any of them as 827 00:15:15,519 --> 00:15:17,829 did not interpret any of them as attempts to dodge responsibility. 828 00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:17,839 attempts to dodge responsibility. 829 00:15:17,839 --> 00:15:19,670 attempts to dodge responsibility. Instead, Cine Bear made it seem as 830 00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:19,680 Instead, Cine Bear made it seem as 831 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,189 Instead, Cine Bear made it seem as though she understood why people were 832 00:15:21,189 --> 00:15:21,199 though she understood why people were 833 00:15:21,199 --> 00:15:23,189 though she understood why people were upset with her and would strive to do 834 00:15:23,189 --> 00:15:23,199 upset with her and would strive to do 835 00:15:23,199 --> 00:15:25,189 upset with her and would strive to do better in the future. This assured 836 00:15:25,189 --> 00:15:25,199 better in the future. This assured 837 00:15:25,199 --> 00:15:27,030 better in the future. This assured people that she would be more open and 838 00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:27,040 people that she would be more open and 839 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,110 people that she would be more open and honest about her faults and wrongdoings 840 00:15:29,110 --> 00:15:29,120 honest about her faults and wrongdoings 841 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,590 honest about her faults and wrongdoings in the future. However, this is not a 842 00:15:31,590 --> 00:15:31,600 in the future. However, this is not a 843 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,829 in the future. However, this is not a trend that would continue. Rather, the 844 00:15:33,829 --> 00:15:33,839 trend that would continue. Rather, the 845 00:15:33,839 --> 00:15:35,829 trend that would continue. Rather, the trends that would continue were those 846 00:15:35,829 --> 00:15:35,839 trends that would continue were those 847 00:15:35,839 --> 00:15:37,990 trends that would continue were those relating to Cinebear's tendencies to 848 00:15:37,990 --> 00:15:38,000 relating to Cinebear's tendencies to 849 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,069 relating to Cinebear's tendencies to overshare about very personal 850 00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:40,079 overshare about very personal 851 00:15:40,079 --> 00:15:42,870 overshare about very personal information and fixate on inappropriate 852 00:15:42,870 --> 00:15:42,880 information and fixate on inappropriate 853 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,350 information and fixate on inappropriate and uncomfortable topics. Though, as 854 00:15:45,350 --> 00:15:45,360 and uncomfortable topics. Though, as 855 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,110 and uncomfortable topics. Though, as we'll come to see, this is something 856 00:15:47,110 --> 00:15:47,120 we'll come to see, this is something 857 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,269 we'll come to see, this is something that would manifest less and less in her 858 00:15:49,269 --> 00:15:49,279 that would manifest less and less in her 859 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:51,269 that would manifest less and less in her public-f facing persona and more 860 00:15:51,269 --> 00:15:51,279 public-f facing persona and more 861 00:15:51,279 --> 00:15:53,829 public-f facing persona and more frequently in private interactions with 862 00:15:53,829 --> 00:15:53,839 frequently in private interactions with 863 00:15:53,839 --> 00:15:55,269 frequently in private interactions with people she should never have been 864 00:15:55,269 --> 00:15:55,279 people she should never have been 865 00:15:55,279 --> 00:15:57,590 people she should never have been speaking to in the first place. And 866 00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:57,600 speaking to in the first place. And 867 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,389 speaking to in the first place. And we'll get to all of that very soon. But 868 00:16:00,389 --> 00:16:00,399 we'll get to all of that very soon. But 869 00:16:00,399 --> 00:16:01,990 we'll get to all of that very soon. But with that, Cine Bear went back to 870 00:16:01,990 --> 00:16:02,000 with that, Cine Bear went back to 871 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,870 with that, Cine Bear went back to uploading videos and art as usual. 872 00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:04,880 uploading videos and art as usual. 873 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,629 uploading videos and art as usual. Though at this point, she would pivot 874 00:16:06,629 --> 00:16:06,639 Though at this point, she would pivot 875 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:08,790 Though at this point, she would pivot her channel more towards art commentary, 876 00:16:08,790 --> 00:16:08,800 her channel more towards art commentary, 877 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,030 her channel more towards art commentary, tackling trending topics like the antics 878 00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:11,040 tackling trending topics like the antics 879 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,749 tackling trending topics like the antics of Sneo and Andrew Tate. And if the 880 00:16:13,749 --> 00:16:13,759 of Sneo and Andrew Tate. And if the 881 00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:15,670 of Sneo and Andrew Tate. And if the comment section and like to dislike 882 00:16:15,670 --> 00:16:15,680 comment section and like to dislike 883 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,230 comment section and like to dislike ratios on her videos is to be trusted, 884 00:16:18,230 --> 00:16:18,240 ratios on her videos is to be trusted, 885 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,150 ratios on her videos is to be trusted, she did seemingly carve out a place for 886 00:16:20,150 --> 00:16:20,160 she did seemingly carve out a place for 887 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,389 she did seemingly carve out a place for herself as an art commentary channel. 888 00:16:22,389 --> 00:16:22,399 herself as an art commentary channel. 889 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:23,990 herself as an art commentary channel. She would also create a community 890 00:16:23,990 --> 00:16:24,000 She would also create a community 891 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,430 She would also create a community Discord server in June of 2021 known as 892 00:16:27,430 --> 00:16:27,440 Discord server in June of 2021 known as 893 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,749 Discord server in June of 2021 known as Cine's fan club where her audience would 894 00:16:29,749 --> 00:16:29,759 Cine's fan club where her audience would 895 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:31,430 Cine's fan club where her audience would get a chance to interact with her 896 00:16:31,430 --> 00:16:31,440 get a chance to interact with her 897 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,230 get a chance to interact with her directly and form a stronger connection 898 00:16:34,230 --> 00:16:34,240 directly and form a stronger connection 899 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,110 directly and form a stronger connection with her on a more personal level. Now, 900 00:16:37,110 --> 00:16:37,120 with her on a more personal level. Now, 901 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,189 with her on a more personal level. Now, to be clear, the next few years were not 902 00:16:39,189 --> 00:16:39,199 to be clear, the next few years were not 903 00:16:39,199 --> 00:16:41,030 to be clear, the next few years were not exactly what I would call smooth sailing 904 00:16:41,030 --> 00:16:41,040 exactly what I would call smooth sailing 905 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,509 exactly what I would call smooth sailing for Cinebear 03, as she actually managed 906 00:16:43,509 --> 00:16:43,519 for Cinebear 03, as she actually managed 907 00:16:43,519 --> 00:16:45,430 for Cinebear 03, as she actually managed to get into her fair share of 908 00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:45,440 to get into her fair share of 909 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,590 to get into her fair share of controversies and was even the subject 910 00:16:47,590 --> 00:16:47,600 controversies and was even the subject 911 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,150 controversies and was even the subject of a few callout videos along the way. 912 00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:50,160 of a few callout videos along the way. 913 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,590 of a few callout videos along the way. But rather than go through the worst 914 00:16:51,590 --> 00:16:51,600 But rather than go through the worst 915 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,030 But rather than go through the worst controversies between 2021 and 2024 in 916 00:16:55,030 --> 00:16:55,040 controversies between 2021 and 2024 in 917 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,269 controversies between 2021 and 2024 in chronological order, I'm simply going to 918 00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:57,279 chronological order, I'm simply going to 919 00:16:57,279 --> 00:16:59,030 chronological order, I'm simply going to skip in my little timeline to the 920 00:16:59,030 --> 00:16:59,040 skip in my little timeline to the 921 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,269 skip in my little timeline to the release of the first callout document in 922 00:17:01,269 --> 00:17:01,279 release of the first callout document in 923 00:17:01,279 --> 00:17:04,230 release of the first callout document in 2024 because it essentially compiles 924 00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:04,240 2024 because it essentially compiles 925 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,829 2024 because it essentially compiles everything that was public knowledge at 926 00:17:05,829 --> 00:17:05,839 everything that was public knowledge at 927 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:08,549 everything that was public knowledge at that point into one single place. So sit 928 00:17:08,549 --> 00:17:08,559 that point into one single place. So sit 929 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:10,870 that point into one single place. So sit back, my dear Jaw, my 49ers, as I take 930 00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:10,880 back, my dear Jaw, my 49ers, as I take 931 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,230 back, my dear Jaw, my 49ers, as I take you through the points made against 932 00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:12,240 you through the points made against 933 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,189 you through the points made against Cinebear 03 one by one, explaining 934 00:17:15,189 --> 00:17:15,199 Cinebear 03 one by one, explaining 935 00:17:15,199 --> 00:17:17,590 Cinebear 03 one by one, explaining context when necessary. And keep in mind 936 00:17:17,590 --> 00:17:17,600 context when necessary. And keep in mind 937 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,270 context when necessary. And keep in mind that this will only be the first call 938 00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:19,280 that this will only be the first call 939 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,429 that this will only be the first call out document of multiple that we will be 940 00:17:21,429 --> 00:17:21,439 out document of multiple that we will be 941 00:17:21,439 --> 00:17:23,429 out document of multiple that we will be going through. And although the later 942 00:17:23,429 --> 00:17:23,439 going through. And although the later 943 00:17:23,439 --> 00:17:25,590 going through. And although the later documents are considered to contain the 944 00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:25,600 documents are considered to contain the 945 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,990 documents are considered to contain the significantly more serious allegations, 946 00:17:27,990 --> 00:17:28,000 significantly more serious allegations, 947 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,830 significantly more serious allegations, I do still think it is worth going 948 00:17:29,830 --> 00:17:29,840 I do still think it is worth going 949 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,470 I do still think it is worth going through the first document because many 950 00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:32,480 through the first document because many 951 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,390 through the first document because many considered it to be damning in its own 952 00:17:34,390 --> 00:17:34,400 considered it to be damning in its own 953 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,950 considered it to be damning in its own right. And regardless, it was clearly 954 00:17:36,950 --> 00:17:36,960 right. And regardless, it was clearly 955 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,870 right. And regardless, it was clearly what signified the beginning of the end 956 00:17:38,870 --> 00:17:38,880 what signified the beginning of the end 957 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,390 what signified the beginning of the end for Cinebear 03. 958 00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:42,400 for Cinebear 03. 959 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,270 for Cinebear 03. On September 1st, 2024, a Google 960 00:17:45,270 --> 00:17:45,280 On September 1st, 2024, a Google 961 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,310 On September 1st, 2024, a Google document titled Addressing Cinebear 03 962 00:17:48,310 --> 00:17:48,320 document titled Addressing Cinebear 03 963 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,710 document titled Addressing Cinebear 03 was created by one of Cinebear's former 964 00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:50,720 was created by one of Cinebear's former 965 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,789 was created by one of Cinebear's former friends. In the coming days, this 966 00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:52,799 friends. In the coming days, this 967 00:17:52,799 --> 00:17:55,110 friends. In the coming days, this document would be posted on Instagram by 968 00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:55,120 document would be posted on Instagram by 969 00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:57,190 document would be posted on Instagram by an account bearing the same name as the 970 00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:57,200 an account bearing the same name as the 971 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,830 an account bearing the same name as the document's title. Simultaneously, it was 972 00:17:59,830 --> 00:17:59,840 document's title. Simultaneously, it was 973 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,390 document's title. Simultaneously, it was pushed by a user known as Fonsalee on 974 00:18:02,390 --> 00:18:02,400 pushed by a user known as Fonsalee on 975 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,310 pushed by a user known as Fonsalee on Twitter, who claimed to be the partner 976 00:18:04,310 --> 00:18:04,320 Twitter, who claimed to be the partner 977 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,549 Twitter, who claimed to be the partner of the doc's creator. This document 978 00:18:06,549 --> 00:18:06,559 of the doc's creator. This document 979 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:08,870 of the doc's creator. This document sought to serve as a compilation of what 980 00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:08,880 sought to serve as a compilation of what 981 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,870 sought to serve as a compilation of what the author believed to be Cinebear's 982 00:18:10,870 --> 00:18:10,880 the author believed to be Cinebear's 983 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,110 the author believed to be Cinebear's inappropriate interactions with minors 984 00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:13,120 inappropriate interactions with minors 985 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:15,430 inappropriate interactions with minors in her audience. And these interactions 986 00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:15,440 in her audience. And these interactions 987 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,909 in her audience. And these interactions fell into four general categories. With 988 00:18:17,909 --> 00:18:17,919 fell into four general categories. With 989 00:18:17,919 --> 00:18:20,870 fell into four general categories. With those being one, inappropriate messages 990 00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:20,880 those being one, inappropriate messages 991 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,710 those being one, inappropriate messages Ciney Bear had apparently sent in a 992 00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:22,720 Ciney Bear had apparently sent in a 993 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,870 Ciney Bear had apparently sent in a group chat when she was an adult and 994 00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:24,880 group chat when she was an adult and 995 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,950 group chat when she was an adult and other members of the group were minors. 996 00:18:26,950 --> 00:18:26,960 other members of the group were minors. 997 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,110 other members of the group were minors. Two, not safe for work art and 998 00:18:29,110 --> 00:18:29,120 Two, not safe for work art and 999 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:31,430 Two, not safe for work art and statements Cinebear had posted in her 13 1000 00:18:31,430 --> 00:18:31,440 statements Cinebear had posted in her 13 1001 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,230 statements Cinebear had posted in her 13 plus Discord server. Three, a quote 1002 00:18:34,230 --> 00:18:34,240 plus Discord server. Three, a quote 1003 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,390 plus Discord server. Three, a quote unquote inappropriate friendship that 1004 00:18:36,390 --> 00:18:36,400 unquote inappropriate friendship that 1005 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,430 unquote inappropriate friendship that turned very NSFW, which Cinebear had 1006 00:18:39,430 --> 00:18:39,440 turned very NSFW, which Cinebear had 1007 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,630 turned very NSFW, which Cinebear had with a 17-year-old when she was 19. And 1008 00:18:42,630 --> 00:18:42,640 with a 17-year-old when she was 19. And 1009 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,710 with a 17-year-old when she was 19. And four, Cine Bear's apparent obsession 1010 00:18:44,710 --> 00:18:44,720 four, Cine Bear's apparent obsession 1011 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,950 four, Cine Bear's apparent obsession with the fictional characters created by 1012 00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:46,960 with the fictional characters created by 1013 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,070 with the fictional characters created by a user known as Sock.Clip, which led her 1014 00:18:50,070 --> 00:18:50,080 a user known as Sock.Clip, which led her 1015 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,070 a user known as Sock.Clip, which led her to disrespect their boundaries. The 1016 00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:52,080 to disrespect their boundaries. The 1017 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,390 to disrespect their boundaries. The framing of this document was ostensibly 1018 00:18:54,390 --> 00:18:54,400 framing of this document was ostensibly 1019 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,310 framing of this document was ostensibly that Ciney Bear03 should be held 1020 00:18:56,310 --> 00:18:56,320 that Ciney Bear03 should be held 1021 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,150 that Ciney Bear03 should be held accountable for her inappropriate 1022 00:18:58,150 --> 00:18:58,160 accountable for her inappropriate 1023 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,470 accountable for her inappropriate conduct around minors. With regards to 1024 00:19:00,470 --> 00:19:00,480 conduct around minors. With regards to 1025 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,150 conduct around minors. With regards to the group chat, the author of the 1026 00:19:02,150 --> 00:19:02,160 the group chat, the author of the 1027 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,150 the group chat, the author of the document claims to have personally been 1028 00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:04,160 document claims to have personally been 1029 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,470 document claims to have personally been part of it when they were a minor and 1030 00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:06,480 part of it when they were a minor and 1031 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,630 part of it when they were a minor and alongside multiple other minors. They 1032 00:19:08,630 --> 00:19:08,640 alongside multiple other minors. They 1033 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,390 alongside multiple other minors. They apparently bore witness to various 1034 00:19:10,390 --> 00:19:10,400 apparently bore witness to various 1035 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,470 apparently bore witness to various inappropriate messages that were sent by 1036 00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:12,480 inappropriate messages that were sent by 1037 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,870 inappropriate messages that were sent by Cinebear and some of her adult friends, 1038 00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:14,880 Cinebear and some of her adult friends, 1039 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,590 Cinebear and some of her adult friends, one of whom was as old as 24. Some of 1040 00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:17,600 one of whom was as old as 24. Some of 1041 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,830 one of whom was as old as 24. Some of these messages consisted of Cine Bear 1042 00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:19,840 these messages consisted of Cine Bear 1043 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,669 these messages consisted of Cine Bear sending what was described by the author 1044 00:19:21,669 --> 00:19:21,679 sending what was described by the author 1045 00:19:21,679 --> 00:19:24,950 sending what was described by the author of the document as NSFW gore art to the 1046 00:19:24,950 --> 00:19:24,960 of the document as NSFW gore art to the 1047 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,430 of the document as NSFW gore art to the chat, as well as various instances in 1048 00:19:27,430 --> 00:19:27,440 chat, as well as various instances in 1049 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,990 chat, as well as various instances in which she talks about how horny she is 1050 00:19:29,990 --> 00:19:30,000 which she talks about how horny she is 1051 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,070 which she talks about how horny she is and has conversations with her then 1052 00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:32,080 and has conversations with her then 1053 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,549 and has conversations with her then boyfriend about not knowing what to do 1054 00:19:34,549 --> 00:19:34,559 boyfriend about not knowing what to do 1055 00:19:34,559 --> 00:19:37,270 boyfriend about not knowing what to do with her uh horniness. Many of these 1056 00:19:37,270 --> 00:19:37,280 with her uh horniness. Many of these 1057 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,270 with her uh horniness. Many of these themes were repeated in the messages 1058 00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:39,280 themes were repeated in the messages 1059 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,190 themes were repeated in the messages that Ciney Bear had been sending in her 1060 00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:41,200 that Ciney Bear had been sending in her 1061 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,669 that Ciney Bear had been sending in her Discord server, Ciney's Fan Club, which 1062 00:19:43,669 --> 00:19:43,679 Discord server, Ciney's Fan Club, which 1063 00:19:43,679 --> 00:19:46,630 Discord server, Ciney's Fan Club, which was a server for fans aged 13 years old 1064 00:19:46,630 --> 00:19:46,640 was a server for fans aged 13 years old 1065 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,110 was a server for fans aged 13 years old and above. Here, Ciney Bear can once 1066 00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:49,120 and above. Here, Ciney Bear can once 1067 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:51,510 and above. Here, Ciney Bear can once again be seen posting suggestive artwork 1068 00:19:51,510 --> 00:19:51,520 again be seen posting suggestive artwork 1069 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,909 again be seen posting suggestive artwork and repeatedly discussing how she is 1070 00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:53,919 and repeatedly discussing how she is 1071 00:19:53,919 --> 00:19:57,270 and repeatedly discussing how she is aggressively and painfully horny, even 1072 00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:57,280 aggressively and painfully horny, even 1073 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,990 aggressively and painfully horny, even going so far as to on multiple occasions 1074 00:19:59,990 --> 00:20:00,000 going so far as to on multiple occasions 1075 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,310 going so far as to on multiple occasions ask the members of her server for advice 1076 00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:02,320 ask the members of her server for advice 1077 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,029 ask the members of her server for advice on finding an AI chatbot that allowed 1078 00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:05,039 on finding an AI chatbot that allowed 1079 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:07,350 on finding an AI chatbot that allowed sexual conversations so that she could 1080 00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:07,360 sexual conversations so that she could 1081 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:09,430 sexual conversations so that she could goon while talking to it. After 1082 00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:09,440 goon while talking to it. After 1083 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,270 goon while talking to it. After discussing the types of messages Cine 1084 00:20:11,270 --> 00:20:11,280 discussing the types of messages Cine 1085 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,190 discussing the types of messages Cine Barrow 3 had been sending in the 1086 00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:13,200 Barrow 3 had been sending in the 1087 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,590 Barrow 3 had been sending in the vicinity of miners, the document goes on 1088 00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:15,600 vicinity of miners, the document goes on 1089 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,590 vicinity of miners, the document goes on to describing a situation that had 1090 00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:17,600 to describing a situation that had 1091 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,029 to describing a situation that had actually been brought to the public 1092 00:20:19,029 --> 00:20:19,039 actually been brought to the public 1093 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:21,510 actually been brought to the public nearly a year prior. This situation 1094 00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:21,520 nearly a year prior. This situation 1095 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,270 nearly a year prior. This situation revolved around a user known as 1096 00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:23,280 revolved around a user known as 1097 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,510 revolved around a user known as Bugspray, who published two videos 1098 00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:25,520 Bugspray, who published two videos 1099 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,029 Bugspray, who published two videos calling out Cinebear 3 in late 2023. 1100 00:20:29,029 --> 00:20:29,039 calling out Cinebear 3 in late 2023. 1101 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:31,110 calling out Cinebear 3 in late 2023. According to Bugspray, they' apparently 1102 00:20:31,110 --> 00:20:31,120 According to Bugspray, they' apparently 1103 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:33,110 According to Bugspray, they' apparently joined Cine's fan club with the 1104 00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:33,120 joined Cine's fan club with the 1105 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:35,669 joined Cine's fan club with the intention of befriending Cinebear 03. 1106 00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:35,679 intention of befriending Cinebear 03. 1107 00:20:35,679 --> 00:20:37,830 intention of befriending Cinebear 03. This endeavor was evidently successful 1108 00:20:37,830 --> 00:20:37,840 This endeavor was evidently successful 1109 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,990 This endeavor was evidently successful as the two of them quickly grew close 1110 00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:40,000 as the two of them quickly grew close 1111 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,149 as the two of them quickly grew close and Cine Bear opened up to Bug spray 1112 00:20:42,149 --> 00:20:42,159 and Cine Bear opened up to Bug spray 1113 00:20:42,159 --> 00:20:44,390 and Cine Bear opened up to Bug spray almost immediately. As early as a week 1114 00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:44,400 almost immediately. As early as a week 1115 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,070 almost immediately. As early as a week into their friendship, Cine Bear 1116 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:46,080 into their friendship, Cine Bear 1117 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,390 into their friendship, Cine Bear apparently began sending very not safe 1118 00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:48,400 apparently began sending very not safe 1119 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,870 apparently began sending very not safe for work messages, including things like 1120 00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:50,880 for work messages, including things like 1121 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,029 for work messages, including things like artworks and fanfictions depicting 1122 00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:53,039 artworks and fanfictions depicting 1123 00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:56,310 artworks and fanfictions depicting Nightmare Sans and a character named Boy 1124 00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:56,320 Nightmare Sans and a character named Boy 1125 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,070 Nightmare Sans and a character named Boy engaging in noncon activities. And if 1126 00:21:00,070 --> 00:21:00,080 engaging in noncon activities. And if 1127 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,149 engaging in noncon activities. And if you're wondering, noncon means 1128 00:21:02,149 --> 00:21:02,159 you're wondering, noncon means 1129 00:21:02,159 --> 00:21:03,669 you're wondering, noncon means non-consensual. 1130 00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:03,679 non-consensual. 1131 00:21:03,679 --> 00:21:06,630 non-consensual. She even sent a comic featuring birdie 1132 00:21:06,630 --> 00:21:06,640 She even sent a comic featuring birdie 1133 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,510 She even sent a comic featuring birdie saing her. And this was apparently the 1134 00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:09,520 saing her. And this was apparently the 1135 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,070 saing her. And this was apparently the same time she was asking Bug spray if 1136 00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:12,080 same time she was asking Bug spray if 1137 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,909 same time she was asking Bug spray if they wanted to move into an apartment 1138 00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:13,919 they wanted to move into an apartment 1139 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:15,830 they wanted to move into an apartment that they would apparently share with 1140 00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:15,840 that they would apparently share with 1141 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,830 that they would apparently share with Cine Bear and Birdie. Uh 1142 00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:19,840 Cine Bear and Birdie. Uh 1143 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,149 Cine Bear and Birdie. Uh what I guess I can't say I'm surprised 1144 00:21:22,149 --> 00:21:22,159 what I guess I can't say I'm surprised 1145 00:21:22,159 --> 00:21:23,590 what I guess I can't say I'm surprised that that living arrangement didn't work 1146 00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:23,600 that that living arrangement didn't work 1147 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,669 that that living arrangement didn't work out in the end. Bugspray also claimed 1148 00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:25,679 out in the end. Bugspray also claimed 1149 00:21:25,679 --> 00:21:27,510 out in the end. Bugspray also claimed that Cine Bear had encouraged them to 1150 00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:27,520 that Cine Bear had encouraged them to 1151 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,350 that Cine Bear had encouraged them to send pictures of themselves in their 1152 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:29,360 send pictures of themselves in their 1153 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:32,310 send pictures of themselves in their underwear. The disturbing NSFW artworks, 1154 00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:32,320 underwear. The disturbing NSFW artworks, 1155 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,230 underwear. The disturbing NSFW artworks, as well as the fact that they were a 1156 00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:34,240 as well as the fact that they were a 1157 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,070 as well as the fact that they were a minor at the time Cine Bear had sent 1158 00:21:36,070 --> 00:21:36,080 minor at the time Cine Bear had sent 1159 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,390 minor at the time Cine Bear had sent them, were the focal point of Bugay's 1160 00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:38,400 them, were the focal point of Bugay's 1161 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,110 them, were the focal point of Bugay's call-out videos on Cinebear 03, leading 1162 00:21:41,110 --> 00:21:41,120 call-out videos on Cinebear 03, leading 1163 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:43,510 call-out videos on Cinebear 03, leading them to call her a quote unquote rape 1164 00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:43,520 them to call her a quote unquote rape 1165 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,830 them to call her a quote unquote rape fanatic who hadn't changed at all since 1166 00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:45,840 fanatic who hadn't changed at all since 1167 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,909 fanatic who hadn't changed at all since her prior controversies and who was 1168 00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:47,919 her prior controversies and who was 1169 00:21:47,919 --> 00:21:50,390 her prior controversies and who was sending NSFW content to a minor. 1170 00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:50,400 sending NSFW content to a minor. 1171 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,549 sending NSFW content to a minor. However, while these videos did gain a 1172 00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:52,559 However, while these videos did gain a 1173 00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:54,710 However, while these videos did gain a slight amount of traction, the situation 1174 00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:54,720 slight amount of traction, the situation 1175 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,710 slight amount of traction, the situation never escalated to the point that Cine 1176 00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:56,720 never escalated to the point that Cine 1177 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,549 never escalated to the point that Cine Bear needed to make a video addressing 1178 00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:58,559 Bear needed to make a video addressing 1179 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:00,470 Bear needed to make a video addressing it. And there were a few reasons for 1180 00:22:00,470 --> 00:22:00,480 it. And there were a few reasons for 1181 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,390 it. And there were a few reasons for this. Following the release of Bug 1182 00:22:02,390 --> 00:22:02,400 this. Following the release of Bug 1183 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,470 this. Following the release of Bug sprays videos, a small commentary 1184 00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:04,480 sprays videos, a small commentary 1185 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,549 sprays videos, a small commentary creator known as Sof the Neko would 1186 00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:06,559 creator known as Sof the Neko would 1187 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:08,710 creator known as Sof the Neko would publish a now disowned video defending 1188 00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:08,720 publish a now disowned video defending 1189 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,190 publish a now disowned video defending Cinebear. At the time, Sofh sought to 1190 00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:11,200 Cinebear. At the time, Sofh sought to 1191 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,510 Cinebear. At the time, Sofh sought to reframe the accusations Bugspray made 1192 00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:13,520 reframe the accusations Bugspray made 1193 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,430 reframe the accusations Bugspray made against Cinebear and call into question 1194 00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:15,440 against Cinebear and call into question 1195 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,590 against Cinebear and call into question the way they had handled the situation, 1196 00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:17,600 the way they had handled the situation, 1197 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,270 the way they had handled the situation, claiming that Bug spray was being 1198 00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:19,280 claiming that Bug spray was being 1199 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,430 claiming that Bug spray was being disrespectful and ignorant of the fact 1200 00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:21,440 disrespectful and ignorant of the fact 1201 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,510 disrespectful and ignorant of the fact that Ciney Bear was likely using the 1202 00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:23,520 that Ciney Bear was likely using the 1203 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,390 that Ciney Bear was likely using the affforementioned nonconomochism 1204 00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:26,400 affforementioned nonconomochism 1205 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,710 affforementioned nonconomochism art to cope with trauma from being 1206 00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:28,720 art to cope with trauma from being 1207 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,789 art to cope with trauma from being essayed. Sofh shows that this is 1208 00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:30,799 essayed. Sofh shows that this is 1209 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:32,470 essayed. Sofh shows that this is actually an explanation she had been 1210 00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:32,480 actually an explanation she had been 1211 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,029 actually an explanation she had been given by Cinebear 03 directly who 1212 00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:35,039 given by Cinebear 03 directly who 1213 00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:37,190 given by Cinebear 03 directly who claimed that her therapist had seen the 1214 00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:37,200 claimed that her therapist had seen the 1215 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,510 claimed that her therapist had seen the comics and said they were an important 1216 00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:39,520 comics and said they were an important 1217 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,830 comics and said they were an important coping mechanism for her. Furthermore, 1218 00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:41,840 coping mechanism for her. Furthermore, 1219 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,310 coping mechanism for her. Furthermore, she criticizes Bug's decision to publish 1220 00:22:44,310 --> 00:22:44,320 she criticizes Bug's decision to publish 1221 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,230 she criticizes Bug's decision to publish these things to the internet instead of 1222 00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:46,240 these things to the internet instead of 1223 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,070 these things to the internet instead of expressing discomfort to Ciney Bear 1224 00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:48,080 expressing discomfort to Ciney Bear 1225 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,470 expressing discomfort to Ciney Bear directly. Finally, S pointed out that 1226 00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:50,480 directly. Finally, S pointed out that 1227 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,549 directly. Finally, S pointed out that while Cine Bear had been an adult and 1228 00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:52,559 while Cine Bear had been an adult and 1229 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:54,470 while Cine Bear had been an adult and Bug spray had been a minor during these 1230 00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:54,480 Bug spray had been a minor during these 1231 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,549 Bug spray had been a minor during these interactions, the age gap between them 1232 00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:56,559 interactions, the age gap between them 1233 00:22:56,559 --> 00:22:59,190 interactions, the age gap between them was 2 years. This point has been echoed 1234 00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:59,200 was 2 years. This point has been echoed 1235 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,350 was 2 years. This point has been echoed by multiple different people as many on 1236 00:23:01,350 --> 00:23:01,360 by multiple different people as many on 1237 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:03,270 by multiple different people as many on the internet do not see an issue with 1238 00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:03,280 the internet do not see an issue with 1239 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,669 the internet do not see an issue with age gaps of this size. Whether or not 1240 00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:05,679 age gaps of this size. Whether or not 1241 00:23:05,679 --> 00:23:07,669 age gaps of this size. Whether or not you think any of this diminishes the 1242 00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:07,679 you think any of this diminishes the 1243 00:23:07,679 --> 00:23:10,149 you think any of this diminishes the severity of the bug spray situation, I 1244 00:23:10,149 --> 00:23:10,159 severity of the bug spray situation, I 1245 00:23:10,159 --> 00:23:11,830 severity of the bug spray situation, I will leave up to you all. I'm merely 1246 00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:11,840 will leave up to you all. I'm merely 1247 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,909 will leave up to you all. I'm merely documenting here the reasons that the 1248 00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:13,919 documenting here the reasons that the 1249 00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:16,230 documenting here the reasons that the 2023 callouts may not have had the 1250 00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:16,240 2023 callouts may not have had the 1251 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,070 2023 callouts may not have had the intended effects on Cine Bear's 1252 00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:18,080 intended effects on Cine Bear's 1253 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,909 intended effects on Cine Bear's reputation. It's worth noting that 1254 00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:19,919 reputation. It's worth noting that 1255 00:23:19,919 --> 00:23:22,789 reputation. It's worth noting that Sofanco has denounced Anero 3 as of 1256 00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:22,799 Sofanco has denounced Anero 3 as of 1257 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:25,669 Sofanco has denounced Anero 3 as of September of 2024 and Bugpay actually 1258 00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:25,679 September of 2024 and Bugpay actually 1259 00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:27,830 September of 2024 and Bugpay actually tweeted in January of this year stating 1260 00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:27,840 tweeted in January of this year stating 1261 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,430 tweeted in January of this year stating that the two of them had officially 1262 00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:29,440 that the two of them had officially 1263 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,750 that the two of them had officially resolved their beef. Bugay has also 1264 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:31,760 resolved their beef. Bugay has also 1265 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,750 resolved their beef. Bugay has also since published a document going much 1266 00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:33,760 since published a document going much 1267 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,510 since published a document going much more in depth on their interactions with 1268 00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:35,520 more in depth on their interactions with 1269 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,669 more in depth on their interactions with Cinebear 3 than they did in their 1270 00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:37,679 Cinebear 3 than they did in their 1271 00:23:37,679 --> 00:23:39,909 Cinebear 3 than they did in their original videos. I've included that in 1272 00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:39,919 original videos. I've included that in 1273 00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:41,270 original videos. I've included that in the description in case you want to 1274 00:23:41,270 --> 00:23:41,280 the description in case you want to 1275 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,789 the description in case you want to check it out and see what they have to 1276 00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:42,799 check it out and see what they have to 1277 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:45,190 check it out and see what they have to say. But obviously keep in mind that the 1278 00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:45,200 say. But obviously keep in mind that the 1279 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,110 say. But obviously keep in mind that the interactions are very inappropriate. 1280 00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:47,120 interactions are very inappropriate. 1281 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:48,950 interactions are very inappropriate. Overall, the last thing I wanted to 1282 00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:48,960 Overall, the last thing I wanted to 1283 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,789 Overall, the last thing I wanted to address from the bug spray situation is 1284 00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:50,799 address from the bug spray situation is 1285 00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:53,029 address from the bug spray situation is Cinebear's response to it because it 1286 00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:53,039 Cinebear's response to it because it 1287 00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:55,110 Cinebear's response to it because it provides insight as to why so many of 1288 00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:55,120 provides insight as to why so many of 1289 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,750 provides insight as to why so many of her fans felt so quote unquote betrayed 1290 00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:57,760 her fans felt so quote unquote betrayed 1291 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,830 her fans felt so quote unquote betrayed by the later allegations that were made 1292 00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:59,840 by the later allegations that were made 1293 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,710 by the later allegations that were made against her. Namely, Cineber 3 responded 1294 00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:02,720 against her. Namely, Cineber 3 responded 1295 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,029 against her. Namely, Cineber 3 responded to Bugay's callouts by acknowledging 1296 00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:05,039 to Bugay's callouts by acknowledging 1297 00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:07,110 to Bugay's callouts by acknowledging that it was completely wrong to speak in 1298 00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:07,120 that it was completely wrong to speak in 1299 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:09,430 that it was completely wrong to speak in a sexual way to someone under the age of 1300 00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:09,440 a sexual way to someone under the age of 1301 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,310 a sexual way to someone under the age of consent. And furthermore, she makes the 1302 00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:12,320 consent. And furthermore, she makes the 1303 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,630 consent. And furthermore, she makes the fateful claim that she would never 1304 00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:14,640 fateful claim that she would never 1305 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,870 fateful claim that she would never befriend someone under the age of 18 1306 00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:16,880 befriend someone under the age of 18 1307 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,750 befriend someone under the age of 18 years old again just to be safe. But 1308 00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:19,760 years old again just to be safe. But 1309 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,430 years old again just to be safe. But before we finally discuss the events 1310 00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:21,440 before we finally discuss the events 1311 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,350 before we finally discuss the events that prove this statement was a complete 1312 00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:23,360 that prove this statement was a complete 1313 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:25,510 that prove this statement was a complete lie, there is one more section of the 1314 00:24:25,510 --> 00:24:25,520 lie, there is one more section of the 1315 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,269 lie, there is one more section of the first document that I will briefly 1316 00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:27,279 first document that I will briefly 1317 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:29,110 first document that I will briefly discuss. The final section of the 1318 00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:29,120 discuss. The final section of the 1319 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:31,430 discuss. The final section of the addressing Cinear 3 document describes 1320 00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:31,440 addressing Cinear 3 document describes 1321 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,029 addressing Cinear 3 document describes the events that occurred surrounding 1322 00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:33,039 the events that occurred surrounding 1323 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:35,510 the events that occurred surrounding Cinebear's beef with a user known as 1324 00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:35,520 Cinebear's beef with a user known as 1325 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,510 Cinebear's beef with a user known as sock.clipip clip that resulted from 1326 00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:37,520 sock.clipip clip that resulted from 1327 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,669 sock.clipip clip that resulted from Cinebear becoming extremely obsessed 1328 00:24:39,669 --> 00:24:39,679 Cinebear becoming extremely obsessed 1329 00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:42,070 Cinebear becoming extremely obsessed with certain characters Sock had created 1330 00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:42,080 with certain characters Sock had created 1331 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,909 with certain characters Sock had created to the point that she was unable to 1332 00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:43,919 to the point that she was unable to 1333 00:24:43,919 --> 00:24:46,789 to the point that she was unable to resist uh shipping herself with those 1334 00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:46,799 resist uh shipping herself with those 1335 00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:49,029 resist uh shipping herself with those fictional characters and drawing them in 1336 00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:49,039 fictional characters and drawing them in 1337 00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:51,909 fictional characters and drawing them in disturbing situations. For example, the 1338 00:24:51,909 --> 00:24:51,919 disturbing situations. For example, the 1339 00:24:51,919 --> 00:24:54,230 disturbing situations. For example, the boy character that I mentioned before 1340 00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:54,240 boy character that I mentioned before 1341 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,789 boy character that I mentioned before who Ciney Bear drew saing Nightmare 1342 00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:56,799 who Ciney Bear drew saing Nightmare 1343 00:24:56,799 --> 00:24:59,750 who Ciney Bear drew saing Nightmare Sands was created by sock.clipip. The 1344 00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:59,760 Sands was created by sock.clipip. The 1345 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,750 Sands was created by sock.clipip. The reason this resulted in tensions rising 1346 00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:01,760 reason this resulted in tensions rising 1347 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,830 reason this resulted in tensions rising between City Bear and Sock was because 1348 00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:03,840 between City Bear and Sock was because 1349 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,990 between City Bear and Sock was because it was clearly stated in Sock's bio that 1350 00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:06,000 it was clearly stated in Sock's bio that 1351 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,390 it was clearly stated in Sock's bio that they did not want anyone sexualizing or 1352 00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:08,400 they did not want anyone sexualizing or 1353 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,710 they did not want anyone sexualizing or shipping their OC's. Cine Bear would 1354 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:10,720 shipping their OC's. Cine Bear would 1355 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,470 shipping their OC's. Cine Bear would make multiple posts throughout the years 1356 00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:12,480 make multiple posts throughout the years 1357 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,990 make multiple posts throughout the years claiming that she was going to stop 1358 00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:14,000 claiming that she was going to stop 1359 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,310 claiming that she was going to stop using Socks characters in order to avoid 1360 00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:16,320 using Socks characters in order to avoid 1361 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,470 using Socks characters in order to avoid making them uncomfortable. However, 1362 00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:18,480 making them uncomfortable. However, 1363 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,549 making them uncomfortable. However, privately she made it clear that she had 1364 00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:20,559 privately she made it clear that she had 1365 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:22,630 privately she made it clear that she had no intention of actually respecting 1366 00:25:22,630 --> 00:25:22,640 no intention of actually respecting 1367 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,789 no intention of actually respecting these boundaries. Furthermore, according 1368 00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:24,799 these boundaries. Furthermore, according 1369 00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:28,149 these boundaries. Furthermore, according to a video uploaded in February 2025 by 1370 00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:28,159 to a video uploaded in February 2025 by 1371 00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:30,390 to a video uploaded in February 2025 by Bugpray, Cinebear's obsession with 1372 00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:30,400 Bugpray, Cinebear's obsession with 1373 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,710 Bugpray, Cinebear's obsession with Sock.clipip went even further than was 1374 00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:32,720 Sock.clipip went even further than was 1375 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,470 Sock.clipip went even further than was previously known to the point that 1376 00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:34,480 previously known to the point that 1377 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,029 previously known to the point that Cinebear confided in Bugay that she had 1378 00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:37,039 Cinebear confided in Bugay that she had 1379 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:40,149 Cinebear confided in Bugay that she had had a dream about visiting Sock.clipip's 1380 00:25:40,149 --> 00:25:40,159 had a dream about visiting Sock.clipip's 1381 00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:43,029 had a dream about visiting Sock.clipip's house in real life. This video also 1382 00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:43,039 house in real life. This video also 1383 00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:45,110 house in real life. This video also contains more information on Bugpay's 1384 00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:45,120 contains more information on Bugpay's 1385 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:47,590 contains more information on Bugpay's experiences, so I will again link it in 1386 00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:47,600 experiences, so I will again link it in 1387 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,590 experiences, so I will again link it in the description below. When it comes to 1388 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:49,600 the description below. When it comes to 1389 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,430 the description below. When it comes to this document, it seems as though the 1390 00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:51,440 this document, it seems as though the 1391 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,510 this document, it seems as though the main criticism made against City Bear 1392 00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:53,520 main criticism made against City Bear 1393 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,669 main criticism made against City Bear was that she was disrespecting sock. 1394 00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:55,679 was that she was disrespecting sock. 1395 00:25:55,679 --> 00:25:58,070 was that she was disrespecting sock. Clips boundaries and overall just being 1396 00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:58,080 Clips boundaries and overall just being 1397 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,750 Clips boundaries and overall just being a really weird gooner with their 1398 00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:59,760 a really weird gooner with their 1399 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,750 a really weird gooner with their characters even after they repeatedly 1400 00:26:01,750 --> 00:26:01,760 characters even after they repeatedly 1401 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,909 characters even after they repeatedly asked her to stop. And that essentially 1402 00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:03,919 asked her to stop. And that essentially 1403 00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:05,909 asked her to stop. And that essentially brings us to the end of the addressing 1404 00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:05,919 brings us to the end of the addressing 1405 00:26:05,919 --> 00:26:08,789 brings us to the end of the addressing Cinebear 03 document. Now, as I 1406 00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:08,799 Cinebear 03 document. Now, as I 1407 00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:10,789 Cinebear 03 document. Now, as I mentioned previously, the more serious 1408 00:26:10,789 --> 00:26:10,799 mentioned previously, the more serious 1409 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:12,630 mentioned previously, the more serious allegations were contained within 1410 00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:12,640 allegations were contained within 1411 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,630 allegations were contained within documents that would be posted following 1412 00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:14,640 documents that would be posted following 1413 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,870 documents that would be posted following this one. However, the addressing 1414 00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:16,880 this one. However, the addressing 1415 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,430 this one. However, the addressing Cinebear 03 document was severe enough 1416 00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:19,440 Cinebear 03 document was severe enough 1417 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,750 Cinebear 03 document was severe enough on its own to prompt Cinebear to begin 1418 00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:21,760 on its own to prompt Cinebear to begin 1419 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,230 on its own to prompt Cinebear to begin working on a response to it. It's likely 1420 00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:24,240 working on a response to it. It's likely 1421 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,909 working on a response to it. It's likely that this response would have leveraged 1422 00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:25,919 that this response would have leveraged 1423 00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:27,750 that this response would have leveraged the fact that Cine Bear had already 1424 00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:27,760 the fact that Cine Bear had already 1425 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,909 the fact that Cine Bear had already addressed the bug spray situation and 1426 00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:29,919 addressed the bug spray situation and 1427 00:26:29,919 --> 00:26:32,549 addressed the bug spray situation and promised to never befriend miners online 1428 00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:32,559 promised to never befriend miners online 1429 00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:35,029 promised to never befriend miners online again. However, unfortunately for her, 1430 00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:35,039 again. However, unfortunately for her, 1431 00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:36,630 again. However, unfortunately for her, Cine Bear was not afforded the 1432 00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:36,640 Cine Bear was not afforded the 1433 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,110 Cine Bear was not afforded the opportunity to tell this lie again. as 1434 00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:39,120 opportunity to tell this lie again. as 1435 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:41,510 opportunity to tell this lie again. as pieces began to move behind the scenes 1436 00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:41,520 pieces began to move behind the scenes 1437 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,909 pieces began to move behind the scenes and within a day, revelations were made 1438 00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:43,919 and within a day, revelations were made 1439 00:26:43,919 --> 00:26:45,510 and within a day, revelations were made that would completely change the way 1440 00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:45,520 that would completely change the way 1441 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:51,750 that would completely change the way that the internet viewed Cinebear 03. 1442 00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:51,760 1443 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,149 As the story is told by Laurel, one of 1444 00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:54,159 As the story is told by Laurel, one of 1445 00:26:54,159 --> 00:26:56,710 As the story is told by Laurel, one of Cinebear 03's former friends, on the 1446 00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:56,720 Cinebear 03's former friends, on the 1447 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,230 Cinebear 03's former friends, on the night of September 13th, 2024, a Discord 1448 00:27:00,230 --> 00:27:00,240 night of September 13th, 2024, a Discord 1449 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,710 night of September 13th, 2024, a Discord group chat was formed, including her, 1450 00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:02,720 group chat was formed, including her, 1451 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,590 group chat was formed, including her, Birdie, Sof, the Neko, and a fourth user 1452 00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:05,600 Birdie, Sof, the Neko, and a fourth user 1453 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,149 Birdie, Sof, the Neko, and a fourth user known as Eno. Laurel was unfamiliar with 1454 00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:08,159 known as Eno. Laurel was unfamiliar with 1455 00:27:08,159 --> 00:27:10,470 known as Eno. Laurel was unfamiliar with Eno at this time. However, she was 1456 00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:10,480 Eno at this time. However, she was 1457 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,390 Eno at this time. However, she was quickly informed by other members of the 1458 00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:12,400 quickly informed by other members of the 1459 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,630 quickly informed by other members of the chat that he was a 14-year-old who 1460 00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:14,640 chat that he was a 14-year-old who 1461 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,950 chat that he was a 14-year-old who Cineber had been inappropriately 1462 00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:16,960 Cineber had been inappropriately 1463 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,350 Cineber had been inappropriately messaging for the past 6 months. The 1464 00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:19,360 messaging for the past 6 months. The 1465 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,430 messaging for the past 6 months. The next day, presumably after having been 1466 00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:21,440 next day, presumably after having been 1467 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,350 next day, presumably after having been advised by the group on how best to 1468 00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:23,360 advised by the group on how best to 1469 00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:25,830 advised by the group on how best to proceed, Eno would go on to publish a 1470 00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:25,840 proceed, Eno would go on to publish a 1471 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,630 proceed, Eno would go on to publish a Google document simply titled Cinei. The 1472 00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:28,640 Google document simply titled Cinei. The 1473 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,310 Google document simply titled Cinei. The document was a staggering 188 pages long 1474 00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:32,320 document was a staggering 188 pages long 1475 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,390 document was a staggering 188 pages long and consisted almost entirely of 1476 00:27:34,390 --> 00:27:34,400 and consisted almost entirely of 1477 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,710 and consisted almost entirely of screenshots of conversations that had 1478 00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:36,720 screenshots of conversations that had 1479 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,590 screenshots of conversations that had taken place between Eno and Cinebear 03 1480 00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:39,600 taken place between Eno and Cinebear 03 1481 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,070 taken place between Eno and Cinebear 03 while Eno was 14 years of age and 1482 00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:42,080 while Eno was 14 years of age and 1483 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,390 while Eno was 14 years of age and Cinebear was 20. I won't be going 1484 00:27:44,390 --> 00:27:44,400 Cinebear was 20. I won't be going 1485 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,470 Cinebear was 20. I won't be going incredibly ind depth on the specific 1486 00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:46,480 incredibly ind depth on the specific 1487 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,789 incredibly ind depth on the specific content of these messages, but 1488 00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:48,799 content of these messages, but 1489 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:50,789 content of these messages, but essentially Ciney Bear frequently 1490 00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:50,799 essentially Ciney Bear frequently 1491 00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:53,269 essentially Ciney Bear frequently discussed in great detail her fantasies 1492 00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:53,279 discussed in great detail her fantasies 1493 00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:55,750 discussed in great detail her fantasies along the lines of Sato masochism, 1494 00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:55,760 along the lines of Sato masochism, 1495 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,950 along the lines of Sato masochism, essay, abuse, etc. with Eno. 1496 00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:58,960 essay, abuse, etc. with Eno. 1497 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,430 essay, abuse, etc. with Eno. Furthermore, she also sent Eno various 1498 00:28:01,430 --> 00:28:01,440 Furthermore, she also sent Eno various 1499 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,070 Furthermore, she also sent Eno various degenerate artworks culminating in a now 1500 00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:04,080 degenerate artworks culminating in a now 1501 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,870 degenerate artworks culminating in a now infamous fulllength comic in which Boy 1502 00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:06,880 infamous fulllength comic in which Boy 1503 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,590 infamous fulllength comic in which Boy repeatedly rips Nightmare Sands. Not 1504 00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:09,600 repeatedly rips Nightmare Sands. Not 1505 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,669 repeatedly rips Nightmare Sands. Not only was this comic sent to Eno, but 1506 00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:11,679 only was this comic sent to Eno, but 1507 00:28:11,679 --> 00:28:13,830 only was this comic sent to Eno, but Cine Bear would actually have him join a 1508 00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:13,840 Cine Bear would actually have him join a 1509 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,310 Cine Bear would actually have him join a call with her and read it aloud to her. 1510 00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:16,320 call with her and read it aloud to her. 1511 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,710 call with her and read it aloud to her. She also encouraged Eno to draw and 1512 00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:18,720 She also encouraged Eno to draw and 1513 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,389 She also encouraged Eno to draw and engage with this type of material 1514 00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:20,399 engage with this type of material 1515 00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:22,870 engage with this type of material himself and coached him on how best to 1516 00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:22,880 himself and coached him on how best to 1517 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,510 himself and coached him on how best to do it, clearly desiring to teach him to 1518 00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:25,520 do it, clearly desiring to teach him to 1519 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,750 do it, clearly desiring to teach him to engage in these sexual fantasies along 1520 00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:27,760 engage in these sexual fantasies along 1521 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,149 engage in these sexual fantasies along with her and create more fetish material 1522 00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:30,159 with her and create more fetish material 1523 00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:32,230 with her and create more fetish material for her. It's worth noting that the 1524 00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:32,240 for her. It's worth noting that the 1525 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,389 for her. It's worth noting that the document opens up with Eno claiming that 1526 00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:34,399 document opens up with Eno claiming that 1527 00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:35,590 document opens up with Eno claiming that throughout the course of his 1528 00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:35,600 throughout the course of his 1529 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,590 throughout the course of his interactions with Cinebear, he was never 1530 00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:37,600 interactions with Cinebear, he was never 1531 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,269 interactions with Cinebear, he was never under the impression that she was 1532 00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:39,279 under the impression that she was 1533 00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,350 under the impression that she was sexually attracted to him or that she 1534 00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:41,360 sexually attracted to him or that she 1535 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,029 sexually attracted to him or that she wanted to cultivate a romantic 1536 00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:43,039 wanted to cultivate a romantic 1537 00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:45,190 wanted to cultivate a romantic relationship with him. However, he does 1538 00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:45,200 relationship with him. However, he does 1539 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,029 relationship with him. However, he does state that he believes what she did 1540 00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:47,039 state that he believes what she did 1541 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:49,830 state that he believes what she did constitutes grooming. After Eno's 1542 00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:49,840 constitutes grooming. After Eno's 1543 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,669 constitutes grooming. After Eno's document was posted, the end was 1544 00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:51,679 document was posted, the end was 1545 00:28:51,679 --> 00:28:54,630 document was posted, the end was inevitable for Cinebear 03, and things 1546 00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:54,640 inevitable for Cinebear 03, and things 1547 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,710 inevitable for Cinebear 03, and things moved extremely quickly following this 1548 00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:56,720 moved extremely quickly following this 1549 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,789 moved extremely quickly following this point. Though the dock on its own would 1550 00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:58,799 point. Though the dock on its own would 1551 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:00,389 point. Though the dock on its own would certainly have made the rounds of the 1552 00:29:00,389 --> 00:29:00,399 certainly have made the rounds of the 1553 00:29:00,399 --> 00:29:02,789 certainly have made the rounds of the internet eventually, videos posted by 1554 00:29:02,789 --> 00:29:02,799 internet eventually, videos posted by 1555 00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:05,269 internet eventually, videos posted by Sof the Neko and Birdie would instantly 1556 00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:05,279 Sof the Neko and Birdie would instantly 1557 00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:07,510 Sof the Neko and Birdie would instantly push evidence of Cinebear's degeneracy 1558 00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:07,520 push evidence of Cinebear's degeneracy 1559 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,830 push evidence of Cinebear's degeneracy to hundreds of thousands of viewers. 1560 00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:09,840 to hundreds of thousands of viewers. 1561 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,830 to hundreds of thousands of viewers. We're going to be taking a very in-depth 1562 00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:11,840 We're going to be taking a very in-depth 1563 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,630 We're going to be taking a very in-depth look at Birdy's video and the monsoon of 1564 00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:14,640 look at Birdy's video and the monsoon of 1565 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,190 look at Birdy's video and the monsoon of drama it initiated in just a minute. But 1566 00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:17,200 drama it initiated in just a minute. But 1567 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,269 drama it initiated in just a minute. But first, I'd like to elaborate a bit more 1568 00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:19,279 first, I'd like to elaborate a bit more 1569 00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:21,430 first, I'd like to elaborate a bit more on the dynamic between Cinebear and 1570 00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:21,440 on the dynamic between Cinebear and 1571 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,350 on the dynamic between Cinebear and Birdie at this time and how it had 1572 00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:23,360 Birdie at this time and how it had 1573 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,230 Birdie at this time and how it had changed since 2021. all the way back in 1574 00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:26,240 changed since 2021. all the way back in 1575 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,549 changed since 2021. all the way back in Cinebear's first major drama. The two 1576 00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:28,559 Cinebear's first major drama. The two 1577 00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:30,549 Cinebear's first major drama. The two had stayed in contact and had only 1578 00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:30,559 had stayed in contact and had only 1579 00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:32,870 had stayed in contact and had only continued to grow closer over the years 1580 00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:32,880 continued to grow closer over the years 1581 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,830 continued to grow closer over the years until in late 2023, Cinebear drove 1582 00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:35,840 until in late 2023, Cinebear drove 1583 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,070 until in late 2023, Cinebear drove halfway across the United States in 1584 00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:38,080 halfway across the United States in 1585 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,070 halfway across the United States in order to pick Birdie up and bring him 1586 00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:40,080 order to pick Birdie up and bring him 1587 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,149 order to pick Birdie up and bring him home with her, at which point they moved 1588 00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:42,159 home with her, at which point they moved 1589 00:29:42,159 --> 00:29:44,630 home with her, at which point they moved into a new apartment together. Over the 1590 00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:44,640 into a new apartment together. Over the 1591 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,310 into a new apartment together. Over the next few months, their friendship 1592 00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:46,320 next few months, their friendship 1593 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,149 next few months, their friendship apparently flourished with them 1594 00:29:48,149 --> 00:29:48,159 apparently flourished with them 1595 00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:50,310 apparently flourished with them constantly posting art of each other and 1596 00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:50,320 constantly posting art of each other and 1597 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,230 constantly posting art of each other and doing things like baking brownies for 1598 00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:52,240 doing things like baking brownies for 1599 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,389 doing things like baking brownies for one another. In fact, just a month 1600 00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:54,399 one another. In fact, just a month 1601 00:29:54,399 --> 00:29:56,310 one another. In fact, just a month before the call out documents about her 1602 00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:56,320 before the call out documents about her 1603 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,510 before the call out documents about her were posted in late August of 2024, 1604 00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:59,520 were posted in late August of 2024, 1605 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,310 were posted in late August of 2024, Cinebear posted a 3-hour long video 1606 00:30:02,310 --> 00:30:02,320 Cinebear posted a 3-hour long video 1607 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,389 Cinebear posted a 3-hour long video defending Birdie against what she saw 1608 00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:04,399 defending Birdie against what she saw 1609 00:30:04,399 --> 00:30:06,710 defending Birdie against what she saw was victim blaming in response to his 1610 00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:06,720 was victim blaming in response to his 1611 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,029 was victim blaming in response to his comeback video to the internet. And 1612 00:30:09,029 --> 00:30:09,039 comeback video to the internet. And 1613 00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:11,269 comeback video to the internet. And apparently, the plan was for there to be 1614 00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:11,279 apparently, the plan was for there to be 1615 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:13,909 apparently, the plan was for there to be more content on this subject since this 1616 00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:13,919 more content on this subject since this 1617 00:30:13,919 --> 00:30:16,950 more content on this subject since this video has part one in the title. Suffice 1618 00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:16,960 video has part one in the title. Suffice 1619 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,350 video has part one in the title. Suffice it to say, their relationship was, or at 1620 00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:19,360 it to say, their relationship was, or at 1621 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,510 it to say, their relationship was, or at least appeared to be publicly, very 1622 00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:21,520 least appeared to be publicly, very 1623 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,750 least appeared to be publicly, very close and very strong all the way up 1624 00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:23,760 close and very strong all the way up 1625 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,510 close and very strong all the way up until the moment these documents were 1626 00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:25,520 until the moment these documents were 1627 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,590 until the moment these documents were published. Which is probably part of the 1628 00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:27,600 published. Which is probably part of the 1629 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,750 published. Which is probably part of the reason that it came as such a shock to 1630 00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:29,760 reason that it came as such a shock to 1631 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,389 reason that it came as such a shock to the internet when on September 15th, 1632 00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:32,399 the internet when on September 15th, 1633 00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:35,430 the internet when on September 15th, 2024, Birdie uploaded a video titled, 1634 00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:35,440 2024, Birdie uploaded a video titled, 1635 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,230 2024, Birdie uploaded a video titled, "My roommate groomed a 14-year-old. I 1636 00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:38,240 "My roommate groomed a 14-year-old. I 1637 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,830 "My roommate groomed a 14-year-old. I need help." 1638 00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:41,840 1639 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,310 Bird's video, which now sits at well 1640 00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:44,320 Bird's video, which now sits at well 1641 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,190 Bird's video, which now sits at well over 400,000 views, reiterates the 1642 00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:47,200 over 400,000 views, reiterates the 1643 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,590 over 400,000 views, reiterates the claims made by Eno and uses them to 1644 00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:49,600 claims made by Eno and uses them to 1645 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,710 claims made by Eno and uses them to declare Cinebear 03 as a groomer and a 1646 00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:52,720 declare Cinebear 03 as a groomer and a 1647 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,630 declare Cinebear 03 as a groomer and a predator who should not be allowed to 1648 00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:54,640 predator who should not be allowed to 1649 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,110 predator who should not be allowed to remain on the internet, even giving Eno 1650 00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:57,120 remain on the internet, even giving Eno 1651 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,190 remain on the internet, even giving Eno an opportunity to speak up about his 1652 00:30:59,190 --> 00:30:59,200 an opportunity to speak up about his 1653 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,590 an opportunity to speak up about his experiences with Cinebear directly to a 1654 00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:01,600 experiences with Cinebear directly to a 1655 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,230 experiences with Cinebear directly to a large audience. But Birdie's main goal 1656 00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:04,240 large audience. But Birdie's main goal 1657 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,549 large audience. But Birdie's main goal in making this video clearly went a lot 1658 00:31:06,549 --> 00:31:06,559 in making this video clearly went a lot 1659 00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:08,389 in making this video clearly went a lot further than spreading awareness about 1660 00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:08,399 further than spreading awareness about 1661 00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:10,310 further than spreading awareness about Cinebear's actions. Something that 1662 00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:10,320 Cinebear's actions. Something that 1663 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,549 Cinebear's actions. Something that became clear when he actually levied a 1664 00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:12,559 became clear when he actually levied a 1665 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:14,710 became clear when he actually levied a brand new allegation against her, that 1666 00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:14,720 brand new allegation against her, that 1667 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,909 brand new allegation against her, that of sexual assault. Specifically, Birdie 1668 00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:17,919 of sexual assault. Specifically, Birdie 1669 00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:19,669 of sexual assault. Specifically, Birdie claims that while they had been living 1670 00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:19,679 claims that while they had been living 1671 00:31:19,679 --> 00:31:21,750 claims that while they had been living together, Cinebear had frequently done 1672 00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:21,760 together, Cinebear had frequently done 1673 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,990 together, Cinebear had frequently done things like poking him in the butt and 1674 00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:24,000 things like poking him in the butt and 1675 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,710 things like poking him in the butt and crotch and touching his chest despite 1676 00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:26,720 crotch and touching his chest despite 1677 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,669 crotch and touching his chest despite him screaming in protest. However, he 1678 00:31:29,669 --> 00:31:29,679 him screaming in protest. However, he 1679 00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:31,990 him screaming in protest. However, he clarifies afterwards that he had 1680 00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:32,000 clarifies afterwards that he had 1681 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,149 clarifies afterwards that he had consented to being touched, but then had 1682 00:31:34,149 --> 00:31:34,159 consented to being touched, but then had 1683 00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:36,070 consented to being touched, but then had started to feel uncomfortable after the 1684 00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:36,080 started to feel uncomfortable after the 1685 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,389 started to feel uncomfortable after the fact as the touching escalated. 1686 00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:38,399 fact as the touching escalated. 1687 00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:40,950 fact as the touching escalated. Ultimately, Bird's video culminated in 1688 00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:40,960 Ultimately, Bird's video culminated in 1689 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,870 Ultimately, Bird's video culminated in him saying that he did not feel safe 1690 00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:42,880 him saying that he did not feel safe 1691 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,029 him saying that he did not feel safe living with Cinebear anymore and that he 1692 00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:45,039 living with Cinebear anymore and that he 1693 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:47,350 living with Cinebear anymore and that he was planning on moving out. However, due 1694 00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:47,360 was planning on moving out. However, due 1695 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,590 was planning on moving out. However, due to the fact that he was quote too 1696 00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:49,600 to the fact that he was quote too 1697 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,990 to the fact that he was quote too disabled to work, he didn't feel that he 1698 00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:52,000 disabled to work, he didn't feel that he 1699 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,590 disabled to work, he didn't feel that he would be able to afford staying 1700 00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:53,600 would be able to afford staying 1701 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,149 would be able to afford staying somewhere else. As such, he decided to 1702 00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:56,159 somewhere else. As such, he decided to 1703 00:31:56,159 --> 00:31:58,950 somewhere else. As such, he decided to open a GoFundMe campaign, seeking 1704 00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:58,960 open a GoFundMe campaign, seeking 1705 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,470 open a GoFundMe campaign, seeking $10,000, 1706 00:32:00,470 --> 00:32:00,480 $10,000, 1707 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,789 $10,000, a goal that would be reached the next 1708 00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:02,799 a goal that would be reached the next 1709 00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:05,269 a goal that would be reached the next day. Brady's video has since come under 1710 00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:05,279 day. Brady's video has since come under 1711 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:07,830 day. Brady's video has since come under a lot of scrutiny, as his motivations in 1712 00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:07,840 a lot of scrutiny, as his motivations in 1713 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,990 a lot of scrutiny, as his motivations in uploading it and various claims he makes 1714 00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:10,000 uploading it and various claims he makes 1715 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,590 uploading it and various claims he makes within it would eventually be called 1716 00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:11,600 within it would eventually be called 1717 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,389 within it would eventually be called into question, largely due to some very 1718 00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:14,399 into question, largely due to some very 1719 00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:16,710 into question, largely due to some very questionable conduct on Bird's end in 1720 00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:16,720 questionable conduct on Bird's end in 1721 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,430 questionable conduct on Bird's end in handling this situation. For example, 1722 00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:19,440 handling this situation. For example, 1723 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,269 handling this situation. For example, and I can't believe I'm saying this 1724 00:32:21,269 --> 00:32:21,279 and I can't believe I'm saying this 1725 00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:23,830 and I can't believe I'm saying this right now, Birdie inexplicably ended his 1726 00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:23,840 right now, Birdie inexplicably ended his 1727 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,830 right now, Birdie inexplicably ended his grooming call out video with an 1728 00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:25,840 grooming call out video with an 1729 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,070 grooming call out video with an animation he had made of his and 1730 00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:28,080 animation he had made of his and 1731 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,870 animation he had made of his and Cinebear 03's avatars dancing on 1732 00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:30,880 Cinebear 03's avatars dancing on 1733 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,710 Cinebear 03's avatars dancing on stripper poles, and it's really weird. 1734 00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:34,720 stripper poles, and it's really weird. 1735 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,190 stripper poles, and it's really weird. He also went on to refer to her as 1736 00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:37,200 He also went on to refer to her as 1737 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,990 He also went on to refer to her as Bear03, replied to art of her being 1738 00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:40,000 Bear03, replied to art of her being 1739 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,470 Bear03, replied to art of her being murdered with, "Fuck yeah, kill your 1740 00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:42,480 murdered with, "Fuck yeah, kill your 1741 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,950 murdered with, "Fuck yeah, kill your local for legal reasons. I'm not wishing 1742 00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:44,960 local for legal reasons. I'm not wishing 1743 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,470 local for legal reasons. I'm not wishing harm on Sinny at all. I just like this 1744 00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:46,480 harm on Sinny at all. I just like this 1745 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,710 harm on Sinny at all. I just like this art." and even went so far as to leave 1746 00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:48,720 art." and even went so far as to leave 1747 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,669 art." and even went so far as to leave her a hat with the word groom on it when 1748 00:32:51,669 --> 00:32:51,679 her a hat with the word groom on it when 1749 00:32:51,679 --> 00:32:53,909 her a hat with the word groom on it when he moved out, leaving many a gasast at 1750 00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:53,919 he moved out, leaving many a gasast at 1751 00:32:53,919 --> 00:32:55,269 he moved out, leaving many a gasast at the way he had handled these 1752 00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:55,279 the way he had handled these 1753 00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:57,590 the way he had handled these allegations. He would also continue to 1754 00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:57,600 allegations. He would also continue to 1755 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,909 allegations. He would also continue to make the situation about himself over 1756 00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:59,919 make the situation about himself over 1757 00:32:59,919 --> 00:33:01,509 make the situation about himself over the coming months by claiming that 1758 00:33:01,509 --> 00:33:01,519 the coming months by claiming that 1759 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:04,070 the coming months by claiming that Cinebear 03 was trying to hack his 1760 00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:04,080 Cinebear 03 was trying to hack his 1761 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,870 Cinebear 03 was trying to hack his Discord and was threatening to kill him 1762 00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:06,880 Discord and was threatening to kill him 1763 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,710 Discord and was threatening to kill him up until the point that his reputation 1764 00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:08,720 up until the point that his reputation 1765 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,110 up until the point that his reputation took a severe nose dive as allegations 1766 00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:11,120 took a severe nose dive as allegations 1767 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,509 took a severe nose dive as allegations about him began to surface. But we'll 1768 00:33:13,509 --> 00:33:13,519 about him began to surface. But we'll 1769 00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:15,990 about him began to surface. But we'll address all that later. At this specific 1770 00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:16,000 address all that later. At this specific 1771 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,230 address all that later. At this specific point in time in the immediate aftermath 1772 00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:18,240 point in time in the immediate aftermath 1773 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,389 point in time in the immediate aftermath of his video going up, it received 1774 00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:20,399 of his video going up, it received 1775 00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:22,549 of his video going up, it received universal acclaim, leading the internet 1776 00:33:22,549 --> 00:33:22,559 universal acclaim, leading the internet 1777 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:25,509 universal acclaim, leading the internet to rally against Cinebear 03 and behind 1778 00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:25,519 to rally against Cinebear 03 and behind 1779 00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:27,909 to rally against Cinebear 03 and behind Birdie. And this overwhelmingly positive 1780 00:33:27,909 --> 00:33:27,919 Birdie. And this overwhelmingly positive 1781 00:33:27,919 --> 00:33:30,149 Birdie. And this overwhelmingly positive reception was due in no small part to 1782 00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:30,159 reception was due in no small part to 1783 00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:31,990 reception was due in no small part to the fact that the grooming allegations 1784 00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:32,000 the fact that the grooming allegations 1785 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,310 the fact that the grooming allegations against Cinebear would be backed up by 1786 00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:34,320 against Cinebear would be backed up by 1787 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,110 against Cinebear would be backed up by her own words later the exact same day 1788 00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:37,120 her own words later the exact same day 1789 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,430 her own words later the exact same day that Birdie's call-up video went up in 1790 00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:39,440 that Birdie's call-up video went up in 1791 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,190 that Birdie's call-up video went up in her first official response to the 1792 00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:41,200 her first official response to the 1793 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,190 her first official response to the situation. Though, keep in mind that 1794 00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:43,200 situation. Though, keep in mind that 1795 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,430 situation. Though, keep in mind that this response has since been denounced. 1796 00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:45,440 this response has since been denounced. 1797 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,029 this response has since been denounced. On September 15th, 2024, Cineber 3 1798 00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:49,039 On September 15th, 2024, Cineber 3 1799 00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:52,149 On September 15th, 2024, Cineber 3 uploaded a video titled, "I'm so sorry." 1800 00:33:52,149 --> 00:33:52,159 uploaded a video titled, "I'm so sorry." 1801 00:33:52,159 --> 00:33:54,149 uploaded a video titled, "I'm so sorry." And as you can probably guess with a 1802 00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:54,159 And as you can probably guess with a 1803 00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:56,149 And as you can probably guess with a title like that, it doesn't provide much 1804 00:33:56,149 --> 00:33:56,159 title like that, it doesn't provide much 1805 00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:58,710 title like that, it doesn't provide much in terms of denial. In fact, it's 1806 00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:58,720 in terms of denial. In fact, it's 1807 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,029 in terms of denial. In fact, it's probably the most explicit confession of 1808 00:34:01,029 --> 00:34:01,039 probably the most explicit confession of 1809 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,029 probably the most explicit confession of engaging in degenerate activities that 1810 00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:03,039 engaging in degenerate activities that 1811 00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:05,430 engaging in degenerate activities that I've ever seen in my entire time on the 1812 00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:05,440 I've ever seen in my entire time on the 1813 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,069 I've ever seen in my entire time on the internet, as it essentially comprises of 1814 00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:08,079 internet, as it essentially comprises of 1815 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,550 internet, as it essentially comprises of Cinebear 03 stating that she had groomed 1816 00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:10,560 Cinebear 03 stating that she had groomed 1817 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,869 Cinebear 03 stating that she had groomed a 14-year-old and sent them graphic 1818 00:34:12,869 --> 00:34:12,879 a 14-year-old and sent them graphic 1819 00:34:12,879 --> 00:34:15,030 a 14-year-old and sent them graphic materials and that she knew what she was 1820 00:34:15,030 --> 00:34:15,040 materials and that she knew what she was 1821 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,190 materials and that she knew what she was doing was wrong and that she still did 1822 00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:17,200 doing was wrong and that she still did 1823 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,230 doing was wrong and that she still did it anyway. Notably, Cineber 3 ends this 1824 00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:20,240 it anyway. Notably, Cineber 3 ends this 1825 00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:22,389 it anyway. Notably, Cineber 3 ends this video by telling people not to defend 1826 00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:22,399 video by telling people not to defend 1827 00:34:22,399 --> 00:34:24,230 video by telling people not to defend her and claiming that she was going to 1828 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:24,240 her and claiming that she was going to 1829 00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:26,629 her and claiming that she was going to be leaving all social media and seeking 1830 00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:26,639 be leaving all social media and seeking 1831 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,430 be leaving all social media and seeking therapy. Furthermore, she stated that if 1832 00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:29,440 therapy. Furthermore, she stated that if 1833 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,589 therapy. Furthermore, she stated that if she were ever to return to the internet, 1834 00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:31,599 she were ever to return to the internet, 1835 00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:33,589 she were ever to return to the internet, it would be years later at the very 1836 00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:33,599 it would be years later at the very 1837 00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:35,909 it would be years later at the very least, as she wanted to take time to 1838 00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:35,919 least, as she wanted to take time to 1839 00:34:35,919 --> 00:34:37,909 least, as she wanted to take time to ensure she wouldn't do something like 1840 00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:37,919 ensure she wouldn't do something like 1841 00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:40,710 ensure she wouldn't do something like this again. And I have to say, it's not 1842 00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:40,720 this again. And I have to say, it's not 1843 00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:42,310 this again. And I have to say, it's not exactly a vote of confidence on 1844 00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:42,320 exactly a vote of confidence on 1845 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,389 exactly a vote of confidence on Cinebear's end that she thinks it would 1846 00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:44,399 Cinebear's end that she thinks it would 1847 00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:46,149 Cinebear's end that she thinks it would take years for her to get over the 1848 00:34:46,149 --> 00:34:46,159 take years for her to get over the 1849 00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:47,669 take years for her to get over the tendency to speak to minors 1850 00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:47,679 tendency to speak to minors 1851 00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:49,190 tendency to speak to minors inappropriately. 1852 00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:49,200 inappropriately. 1853 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,510 inappropriately. But as I always say, what do I know? 1854 00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:51,520 But as I always say, what do I know? 1855 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,589 But as I always say, what do I know? Cinebear 3's confession would very 1856 00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:53,599 Cinebear 3's confession would very 1857 00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:55,270 Cinebear 3's confession would very quickly make the rounds of the internet 1858 00:34:55,270 --> 00:34:55,280 quickly make the rounds of the internet 1859 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,430 quickly make the rounds of the internet with art commentary creators jumping to 1860 00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:57,440 with art commentary creators jumping to 1861 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,270 with art commentary creators jumping to cover the story. However, it wouldn't 1862 00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:59,280 cover the story. However, it wouldn't 1863 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,510 cover the story. However, it wouldn't stop there as the situation continued 1864 00:35:01,510 --> 00:35:01,520 stop there as the situation continued 1865 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,510 stop there as the situation continued exploding in visibility to the point 1866 00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:03,520 exploding in visibility to the point 1867 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,670 exploding in visibility to the point that it left the art oriented sphere of 1868 00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:05,680 that it left the art oriented sphere of 1869 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,829 that it left the art oriented sphere of the internet, showing up on the radar of 1870 00:35:07,829 --> 00:35:07,839 the internet, showing up on the radar of 1871 00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:10,230 the internet, showing up on the radar of commentary YouTubers like Turkey Tom. 1872 00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:10,240 commentary YouTubers like Turkey Tom. 1873 00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:12,069 commentary YouTubers like Turkey Tom. Virtually everyone on the internet was 1874 00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:12,079 Virtually everyone on the internet was 1875 00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:14,710 Virtually everyone on the internet was condemning Cinebear 03 and things were 1876 00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:14,720 condemning Cinebear 03 and things were 1877 00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:16,790 condemning Cinebear 03 and things were quickly starting to escalate. According 1878 00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:16,800 quickly starting to escalate. According 1879 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,950 quickly starting to escalate. According to Cinebear herself, she was apparently 1880 00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:18,960 to Cinebear herself, she was apparently 1881 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,109 to Cinebear herself, she was apparently doxed during this period of time and 1882 00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:21,119 doxed during this period of time and 1883 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,270 doxed during this period of time and people began calling her place of work 1884 00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:23,280 people began calling her place of work 1885 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,349 people began calling her place of work to tell her boss that she was a child 1886 00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:25,359 to tell her boss that she was a child 1887 00:35:25,359 --> 00:35:27,430 to tell her boss that she was a child predator. This apparently led her to 1888 00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:27,440 predator. This apparently led her to 1889 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,670 predator. This apparently led her to fear for her safety, at which point she 1890 00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:29,680 fear for her safety, at which point she 1891 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,670 fear for her safety, at which point she began attempting to acquire various 1892 00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:31,680 began attempting to acquire various 1893 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,470 began attempting to acquire various miscellaneous weapons, including guns, 1894 00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:34,480 miscellaneous weapons, including guns, 1895 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,510 miscellaneous weapons, including guns, knives, pepper spray, and crowbars. The 1896 00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:37,520 knives, pepper spray, and crowbars. The 1897 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,109 knives, pepper spray, and crowbars. The fact that Cine Bear was apparently 1898 00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:39,119 fact that Cine Bear was apparently 1899 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:41,510 fact that Cine Bear was apparently attempting to obtain weaponry, was also 1900 00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:41,520 attempting to obtain weaponry, was also 1901 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,430 attempting to obtain weaponry, was also accompanied by various concerning 1902 00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:43,440 accompanied by various concerning 1903 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,190 accompanied by various concerning messages she had been sending behind the 1904 00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:45,200 messages she had been sending behind the 1905 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,190 messages she had been sending behind the scenes, which were subsequently leaked 1906 00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:47,200 scenes, which were subsequently leaked 1907 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,910 scenes, which were subsequently leaked to Twitter. These messages depict Ciney 1908 00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:49,920 to Twitter. These messages depict Ciney 1909 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,829 to Twitter. These messages depict Ciney Bear ranting about how much she wanted 1910 00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:51,839 Bear ranting about how much she wanted 1911 00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:53,829 Bear ranting about how much she wanted to kill Birdie because of the 1912 00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:53,839 to kill Birdie because of the 1913 00:35:53,839 --> 00:35:56,310 to kill Birdie because of the allegations he had made against her. And 1914 00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:56,320 allegations he had made against her. And 1915 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,310 allegations he had made against her. And the existence of these messages led to 1916 00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:58,320 the existence of these messages led to 1917 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,310 the existence of these messages led to the affformentioned claim made by Birdie 1918 00:36:00,310 --> 00:36:00,320 the affformentioned claim made by Birdie 1919 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,470 the affformentioned claim made by Birdie that Cinebear was threatening to end his 1920 00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:02,480 that Cinebear was threatening to end his 1921 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,950 that Cinebear was threatening to end his life, specifically using the weapons she 1922 00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:04,960 life, specifically using the weapons she 1923 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,710 life, specifically using the weapons she was currently trying to obtain. 1924 00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:06,720 was currently trying to obtain. 1925 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,710 was currently trying to obtain. According to Laurel, this actually 1926 00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:08,720 According to Laurel, this actually 1927 00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:11,030 According to Laurel, this actually escalated to the police reaching out to 1928 00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:11,040 escalated to the police reaching out to 1929 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,510 escalated to the police reaching out to both her and Birdie to ask if they felt 1930 00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:13,520 both her and Birdie to ask if they felt 1931 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,630 both her and Birdie to ask if they felt safe because Cinebear 03 had apparently 1932 00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:16,640 safe because Cinebear 03 had apparently 1933 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,430 safe because Cinebear 03 had apparently at some point drawn her killing the both 1934 00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:19,440 at some point drawn her killing the both 1935 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,510 at some point drawn her killing the both of them. Though, take this claim with a 1936 00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:21,520 of them. Though, take this claim with a 1937 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,510 of them. Though, take this claim with a grain of salt because I've yet to see 1938 00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:23,520 grain of salt because I've yet to see 1939 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,510 grain of salt because I've yet to see this drawing for myself, so I'm just 1940 00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:25,520 this drawing for myself, so I'm just 1941 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,750 this drawing for myself, so I'm just going off of Laurel's word here. Suffice 1942 00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:27,760 going off of Laurel's word here. Suffice 1943 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,470 going off of Laurel's word here. Suffice it to say, Cinebear 03 was being nearly 1944 00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:30,480 it to say, Cinebear 03 was being nearly 1945 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,109 it to say, Cinebear 03 was being nearly unanimously condemned by all corners of 1946 00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:33,119 unanimously condemned by all corners of 1947 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:34,950 unanimously condemned by all corners of the internet, and she was entering the 1948 00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:34,960 the internet, and she was entering the 1949 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,510 the internet, and she was entering the preliminary stages of a legendary crash 1950 00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:37,520 preliminary stages of a legendary crash 1951 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,829 preliminary stages of a legendary crash out. But note that I said nearly 1952 00:36:39,829 --> 00:36:39,839 out. But note that I said nearly 1953 00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:42,470 out. But note that I said nearly unanimously. That was a very intentional 1954 00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:42,480 unanimously. That was a very intentional 1955 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,349 unanimously. That was a very intentional word choice. Because you see, even in 1956 00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:45,359 word choice. Because you see, even in 1957 00:36:45,359 --> 00:36:48,069 word choice. Because you see, even in this darkest hour, Cinebear 03 was not 1958 00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:48,079 this darkest hour, Cinebear 03 was not 1959 00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:50,550 this darkest hour, Cinebear 03 was not without her allies. That brings us to 1960 00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:50,560 without her allies. That brings us to 1961 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,109 without her allies. That brings us to what some have chosen to refer to as the 1962 00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:53,119 what some have chosen to refer to as the 1963 00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:55,510 what some have chosen to refer to as the Cinebear Defense Force. An eclectic 1964 00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:55,520 Cinebear Defense Force. An eclectic 1965 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,510 Cinebear Defense Force. An eclectic coalition of individuals that came 1966 00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:57,520 coalition of individuals that came 1967 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,430 coalition of individuals that came together from across the internet to 1968 00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:59,440 together from across the internet to 1969 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,349 together from across the internet to plot a course to redemption for the 1970 00:37:01,349 --> 00:37:01,359 plot a course to redemption for the 1971 00:37:01,359 --> 00:37:03,910 plot a course to redemption for the maligned creator. You see, in the days 1972 00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:03,920 maligned creator. You see, in the days 1973 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,069 maligned creator. You see, in the days following both Birdie's video and 1974 00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:06,079 following both Birdie's video and 1975 00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:08,390 following both Birdie's video and Cinebear's response to the allegations, 1976 00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:08,400 Cinebear's response to the allegations, 1977 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,230 Cinebear's response to the allegations, Birdie began tweeting about the 1978 00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:10,240 Birdie began tweeting about the 1979 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:12,390 Birdie began tweeting about the possibility that Cinebear 03 would 1980 00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:12,400 possibility that Cinebear 03 would 1981 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,069 possibility that Cinebear 03 would attempt to make a comeback to the 1982 00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:14,079 attempt to make a comeback to the 1983 00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:15,829 attempt to make a comeback to the internet, with her efforts being 1984 00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:15,839 internet, with her efforts being 1985 00:37:15,839 --> 00:37:18,150 internet, with her efforts being centered around a second response video 1986 00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:18,160 centered around a second response video 1987 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,150 centered around a second response video that would rescend her confession and 1988 00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:20,160 that would rescend her confession and 1989 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,470 that would rescend her confession and push the heat onto Birdie, painting him 1990 00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:22,480 push the heat onto Birdie, painting him 1991 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,870 push the heat onto Birdie, painting him as an unreliable narrator in an attempt 1992 00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:24,880 as an unreliable narrator in an attempt 1993 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,030 as an unreliable narrator in an attempt to discredit the allegations he was 1994 00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:27,040 to discredit the allegations he was 1995 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,430 to discredit the allegations he was signal boosting. And although no source 1996 00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:29,440 signal boosting. And although no source 1997 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,589 signal boosting. And although no source was provided to back up this claim, it 1998 00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:31,599 was provided to back up this claim, it 1999 00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:34,150 was provided to back up this claim, it would be proven correct very shortly. 2000 00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:34,160 would be proven correct very shortly. 2001 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,150 would be proven correct very shortly. And as would later be discovered, 2002 00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:36,160 And as would later be discovered, 2003 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,310 And as would later be discovered, Cinebear was actively working on this 2004 00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:38,320 Cinebear was actively working on this 2005 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,390 Cinebear was actively working on this response video behind the scenes in 2006 00:37:40,390 --> 00:37:40,400 response video behind the scenes in 2007 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,390 response video behind the scenes in multiple different group chats a mere 2008 00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:42,400 multiple different group chats a mere 2009 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,950 multiple different group chats a mere week after her confession was posted. 2010 00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:44,960 week after her confession was posted. 2011 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,870 week after her confession was posted. These group chats were the source of a 2012 00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:46,880 These group chats were the source of a 2013 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,790 These group chats were the source of a significant amount of drama, and I will 2014 00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:48,800 significant amount of drama, and I will 2015 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,950 significant amount of drama, and I will be addressing that in just a minute. 2016 00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:50,960 be addressing that in just a minute. 2017 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,270 be addressing that in just a minute. However, before I do, there is one last 2018 00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:53,280 However, before I do, there is one last 2019 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,030 However, before I do, there is one last claim that was made during this time 2020 00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:55,040 claim that was made during this time 2021 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,870 claim that was made during this time period that I wanted to note before 2022 00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:56,880 period that I wanted to note before 2023 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,470 period that I wanted to note before moving on. On September 19th, 2024, a 2024 00:38:00,470 --> 00:38:00,480 moving on. On September 19th, 2024, a 2025 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,109 moving on. On September 19th, 2024, a YouTuber known as Yuri uploaded a video 2026 00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:03,119 YouTuber known as Yuri uploaded a video 2027 00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:04,950 YouTuber known as Yuri uploaded a video titled, "What you don't know about 2028 00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:04,960 titled, "What you don't know about 2029 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,990 titled, "What you don't know about Cinebear 03: Awareness Rant," wherein 2030 00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:08,000 Cinebear 03: Awareness Rant," wherein 2031 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,150 Cinebear 03: Awareness Rant," wherein they allege they had discovered accounts 2032 00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:10,160 they allege they had discovered accounts 2033 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,230 they allege they had discovered accounts on YouTube and Instagram that were 2034 00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:12,240 on YouTube and Instagram that were 2035 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:15,589 on YouTube and Instagram that were covertly run by Cinebear in 2022, where 2036 00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:15,599 covertly run by Cinebear in 2022, where 2037 00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:19,030 covertly run by Cinebear in 2022, where she went by Lolly Molly 2006. On these 2038 00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:19,040 she went by Lolly Molly 2006. On these 2039 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,510 she went by Lolly Molly 2006. On these accounts, Yuri claims that Cinebear 2040 00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:21,520 accounts, Yuri claims that Cinebear 2041 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,510 accounts, Yuri claims that Cinebear intentionally acted younger than she 2042 00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:23,520 intentionally acted younger than she 2043 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,069 intentionally acted younger than she was. And given the year included in the 2044 00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:26,079 was. And given the year included in the 2045 00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:28,470 was. And given the year included in the username, the implication is that anyone 2046 00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:28,480 username, the implication is that anyone 2047 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,230 username, the implication is that anyone viewing these accounts was supposed to 2048 00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:30,240 viewing these accounts was supposed to 2049 00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:32,630 viewing these accounts was supposed to believe the user behind them was 16 2050 00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:32,640 believe the user behind them was 16 2051 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,790 believe the user behind them was 16 years old at that time. And remember 2052 00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:34,800 years old at that time. And remember 2053 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,790 years old at that time. And remember that this is multiple years younger than 2054 00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:36,800 that this is multiple years younger than 2055 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,790 that this is multiple years younger than Cinebear would have been. In response to 2056 00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:38,800 Cinebear would have been. In response to 2057 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,470 Cinebear would have been. In response to these claims, most viewers were 2058 00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:40,480 these claims, most viewers were 2059 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,790 these claims, most viewers were generally pretty horrified as the idea 2060 00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:42,800 generally pretty horrified as the idea 2061 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,190 generally pretty horrified as the idea that Cinebear 03, who was currently 2062 00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:45,200 that Cinebear 03, who was currently 2063 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,430 that Cinebear 03, who was currently embroiled in a drama relating to 2064 00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:47,440 embroiled in a drama relating to 2065 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,670 embroiled in a drama relating to inappropriate interactions with minors, 2066 00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:49,680 inappropriate interactions with minors, 2067 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,829 inappropriate interactions with minors, had been intentionally making herself 2068 00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:51,839 had been intentionally making herself 2069 00:38:51,839 --> 00:38:54,630 had been intentionally making herself seem younger on alternate accounts, is 2070 00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:54,640 seem younger on alternate accounts, is 2071 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,190 seem younger on alternate accounts, is intriguing to say the least. This video 2072 00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:57,200 intriguing to say the least. This video 2073 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,430 intriguing to say the least. This video never got much traction, and I'm only 2074 00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:59,440 never got much traction, and I'm only 2075 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,349 never got much traction, and I'm only bringing it up because I frankly thought 2076 00:39:01,349 --> 00:39:01,359 bringing it up because I frankly thought 2077 00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:03,510 bringing it up because I frankly thought it was an interesting claim that we'll 2078 00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:03,520 it was an interesting claim that we'll 2079 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,950 it was an interesting claim that we'll probably never know the true 2080 00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:04,960 probably never know the true 2081 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,270 probably never know the true implications of. Regardless, it's time 2082 00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:07,280 implications of. Regardless, it's time 2083 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,790 implications of. Regardless, it's time to address the affforementioned group 2084 00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:08,800 to address the affforementioned group 2085 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,710 to address the affforementioned group chats that were designed to help Cine 2086 00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:10,720 chats that were designed to help Cine 2087 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:15,910 chats that were designed to help Cine Ver 3 craft her response video. 2088 00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:15,920 2089 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,150 I won't be going incredibly indepth as 2090 00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:18,160 I won't be going incredibly indepth as 2091 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,150 I won't be going incredibly indepth as to how everyone involved in these group 2092 00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:20,160 to how everyone involved in these group 2093 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,470 to how everyone involved in these group chats came to be Cinebear's strongest 2094 00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:22,480 chats came to be Cinebear's strongest 2095 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,790 chats came to be Cinebear's strongest soldiers, but I will address a few of 2096 00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:24,800 soldiers, but I will address a few of 2097 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,109 soldiers, but I will address a few of the major players defending her. And 2098 00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:27,119 the major players defending her. And 2099 00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:28,790 the major players defending her. And keep in mind that most of them have 2100 00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:28,800 keep in mind that most of them have 2101 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,710 keep in mind that most of them have either denounced her actions by this 2102 00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:30,720 either denounced her actions by this 2103 00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:33,109 either denounced her actions by this point in time or have attempted to claim 2104 00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:33,119 point in time or have attempted to claim 2105 00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:34,790 point in time or have attempted to claim that they were never being serious and 2106 00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:34,800 that they were never being serious and 2107 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,790 that they were never being serious and defending her and were simply trolling 2108 00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:36,800 defending her and were simply trolling 2109 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,030 defending her and were simply trolling the entire time. The most influential 2110 00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:39,040 the entire time. The most influential 2111 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,430 the entire time. The most influential member of the crew was seemingly Kumo 2112 00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:41,440 member of the crew was seemingly Kumo 2113 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,829 member of the crew was seemingly Kumo Commentary who was formerly a small 2114 00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:43,839 Commentary who was formerly a small 2115 00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:45,910 Commentary who was formerly a small commentary YouTuber before he deleted 2116 00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:45,920 commentary YouTuber before he deleted 2117 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,630 commentary YouTuber before he deleted his channel last year. Kumo managed to 2118 00:39:48,630 --> 00:39:48,640 his channel last year. Kumo managed to 2119 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,069 his channel last year. Kumo managed to become somewhat infamous in the 2120 00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:50,079 become somewhat infamous in the 2121 00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:52,550 become somewhat infamous in the commentary community as the Cinebear 03 2122 00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:52,560 commentary community as the Cinebear 03 2123 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,390 commentary community as the Cinebear 03 drama ramped up because he would 2124 00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:54,400 drama ramped up because he would 2125 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,710 drama ramped up because he would regularly debate people on the severity 2126 00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:56,720 regularly debate people on the severity 2127 00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:59,030 regularly debate people on the severity of Cinebear's actions, claiming that 2128 00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:59,040 of Cinebear's actions, claiming that 2129 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,870 of Cinebear's actions, claiming that they should not classify her as a 2130 00:40:00,870 --> 00:40:00,880 they should not classify her as a 2131 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,870 they should not classify her as a groomer. When faced with the fact that 2132 00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:02,880 groomer. When faced with the fact that 2133 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,750 groomer. When faced with the fact that Cinebear 03 had confessed and professed 2134 00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:05,760 Cinebear 03 had confessed and professed 2135 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,150 Cinebear 03 had confessed and professed herself to be a groomer, Kumo and others 2136 00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:08,160 herself to be a groomer, Kumo and others 2137 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,910 herself to be a groomer, Kumo and others who shared his views would claim that 2138 00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:09,920 who shared his views would claim that 2139 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,069 who shared his views would claim that she had been manipulated and coerced 2140 00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:12,079 she had been manipulated and coerced 2141 00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:14,790 she had been manipulated and coerced into confessing by Birdie. In the weeks 2142 00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:14,800 into confessing by Birdie. In the weeks 2143 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,990 into confessing by Birdie. In the weeks following the beginning of the 2144 00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:16,000 following the beginning of the 2145 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,310 following the beginning of the controversy, he also went out of his way 2146 00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:18,320 controversy, he also went out of his way 2147 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,470 controversy, he also went out of his way to involve himself with Cinebear's 2148 00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:20,480 to involve himself with Cinebear's 2149 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,150 to involve himself with Cinebear's efforts to make a comeback to the 2150 00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:22,160 efforts to make a comeback to the 2151 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,150 efforts to make a comeback to the internet, playing a role in multiple 2152 00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:24,160 internet, playing a role in multiple 2153 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,069 internet, playing a role in multiple group chats and even corresponding with 2154 00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:26,079 group chats and even corresponding with 2155 00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:28,630 group chats and even corresponding with Cinebear directly in DMs to help her 2156 00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:28,640 Cinebear directly in DMs to help her 2157 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,870 Cinebear directly in DMs to help her craft a response. The other members of 2158 00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:30,880 craft a response. The other members of 2159 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,710 craft a response. The other members of the chat were less prominent within the 2160 00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:32,720 the chat were less prominent within the 2161 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:34,710 the chat were less prominent within the community, but still played a role in 2162 00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:34,720 community, but still played a role in 2163 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:37,190 community, but still played a role in generating ideas for Cinebear 03's 2164 00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:37,200 generating ideas for Cinebear 03's 2165 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,190 generating ideas for Cinebear 03's comeback video. I would honestly be 2166 00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:39,200 comeback video. I would honestly be 2167 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,430 comeback video. I would honestly be remiss if I didn't read you an excerpt 2168 00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:41,440 remiss if I didn't read you an excerpt 2169 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,990 remiss if I didn't read you an excerpt of a prospective script suggested to 2170 00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:44,000 of a prospective script suggested to 2171 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,630 of a prospective script suggested to Ciney Bear by a user known as Romantic 2172 00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:46,640 Ciney Bear by a user known as Romantic 2173 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,910 Ciney Bear by a user known as Romantic Goblin. Hey everyone, it's Ciney here 2174 00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:49,920 Goblin. Hey everyone, it's Ciney here 2175 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,750 Goblin. Hey everyone, it's Ciney here and I've been seeing a lot of crazy 2176 00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:51,760 and I've been seeing a lot of crazy 2177 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,550 and I've been seeing a lot of crazy stuff being said about me online lately. 2178 00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:54,560 stuff being said about me online lately. 2179 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,069 stuff being said about me online lately. So, I just want to set the record 2180 00:40:56,069 --> 00:40:56,079 So, I just want to set the record 2181 00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,069 So, I just want to set the record straight. First of all, let's talk about 2182 00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:58,079 straight. First of all, let's talk about 2183 00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:01,109 straight. First of all, let's talk about the whole thing with the 14-year-old. I 2184 00:41:01,109 --> 00:41:01,119 the whole thing with the 14-year-old. I 2185 00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:02,710 the whole thing with the 14-year-old. I know that people are saying it was some 2186 00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:02,720 know that people are saying it was some 2187 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:05,190 know that people are saying it was some big deal, like, "Oh my god, she was 2188 00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:05,200 big deal, like, "Oh my god, she was 2189 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,950 big deal, like, "Oh my god, she was talking to someone younger." But 2190 00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:06,960 talking to someone younger." But 2191 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,109 talking to someone younger." But honestly, it wasn't that deep. People 2192 00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:09,119 honestly, it wasn't that deep. People 2193 00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:10,710 honestly, it wasn't that deep. People want to blow things out of proportion 2194 00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:10,720 want to blow things out of proportion 2195 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:12,630 want to blow things out of proportion because they need someone to hate. And 2196 00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:12,640 because they need someone to hate. And 2197 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,710 because they need someone to hate. And apparently that someone is me right now. 2198 00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:14,720 apparently that someone is me right now. 2199 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,109 apparently that someone is me right now. And let me talk about Jack. Jack is 2200 00:41:17,109 --> 00:41:17,119 And let me talk about Jack. Jack is 2201 00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:18,710 And let me talk about Jack. Jack is Birdie, by the way. That dude is 2202 00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:18,720 Birdie, by the way. That dude is 2203 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:20,630 Birdie, by the way. That dude is straight up lying. I don't even know 2204 00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:20,640 straight up lying. I don't even know 2205 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,910 straight up lying. I don't even know where he gets half the things he's 2206 00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:21,920 where he gets half the things he's 2207 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,510 where he gets half the things he's saying about me. It's like he's just 2208 00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:23,520 saying about me. It's like he's just 2209 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,910 saying about me. It's like he's just making things up for clout or attention. 2210 00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:25,920 making things up for clout or attention. 2211 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,470 making things up for clout or attention. It's actually sad. He can't even keep 2212 00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:28,480 It's actually sad. He can't even keep 2213 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,150 It's actually sad. He can't even keep his story straight half the time. Like, 2214 00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:30,160 his story straight half the time. Like, 2215 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,990 his story straight half the time. Like, what am I supposed to do with that? You 2216 00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:32,000 what am I supposed to do with that? You 2217 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,510 what am I supposed to do with that? You know what? I've been thinking about all 2218 00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:33,520 know what? I've been thinking about all 2219 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,750 know what? I've been thinking about all the hate I'm getting. And honestly, it 2220 00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:35,760 the hate I'm getting. And honestly, it 2221 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,109 the hate I'm getting. And honestly, it reminds me of how some of the most 2222 00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:37,119 reminds me of how some of the most 2223 00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:38,710 reminds me of how some of the most influential people in history were 2224 00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:38,720 influential people in history were 2225 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:41,910 influential people in history were treated. Like, take Okay, dude, I can't 2226 00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:41,920 treated. Like, take Okay, dude, I can't 2227 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,990 treated. Like, take Okay, dude, I can't read this anymore. Now, as you might 2228 00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:44,000 read this anymore. Now, as you might 2229 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,150 read this anymore. Now, as you might have imagined, most of these suggestions 2230 00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:46,160 have imagined, most of these suggestions 2231 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,550 have imagined, most of these suggestions never made their way into Cinebear 03's 2232 00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:48,560 never made their way into Cinebear 03's 2233 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,950 never made their way into Cinebear 03's official response. But it's undeniable 2234 00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:50,960 official response. But it's undeniable 2235 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,430 official response. But it's undeniable that these group chats played a role in 2236 00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:53,440 that these group chats played a role in 2237 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,829 that these group chats played a role in not only feeding her ideas, but also 2238 00:41:55,829 --> 00:41:55,839 not only feeding her ideas, but also 2239 00:41:55,839 --> 00:41:57,910 not only feeding her ideas, but also emboldening her and convincing her that 2240 00:41:57,910 --> 00:41:57,920 emboldening her and convincing her that 2241 00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,750 emboldening her and convincing her that her actions were not anywhere near as 2242 00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:59,760 her actions were not anywhere near as 2243 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,829 her actions were not anywhere near as severe as the general response from the 2244 00:42:01,829 --> 00:42:01,839 severe as the general response from the 2245 00:42:01,839 --> 00:42:03,910 severe as the general response from the internet was leading her to believe. I 2246 00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:03,920 internet was leading her to believe. I 2247 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,829 internet was leading her to believe. I won't be going much deeper into the 2248 00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:05,839 won't be going much deeper into the 2249 00:42:05,839 --> 00:42:07,829 won't be going much deeper into the concerted behind-the-scenes efforts to 2250 00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:07,839 concerted behind-the-scenes efforts to 2251 00:42:07,839 --> 00:42:10,309 concerted behind-the-scenes efforts to help Cine Bear 03, but if you want more 2252 00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:10,319 help Cine Bear 03, but if you want more 2253 00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:11,910 help Cine Bear 03, but if you want more coverage of this group chat and some of 2254 00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:11,920 coverage of this group chat and some of 2255 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,829 coverage of this group chat and some of the weird power struggles that emerged 2256 00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:13,839 the weird power struggles that emerged 2257 00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:15,430 the weird power struggles that emerged within it, there are others who have 2258 00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:15,440 within it, there are others who have 2259 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,510 within it, there are others who have gone much deeper into it than I have in 2260 00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:17,520 gone much deeper into it than I have in 2261 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,069 gone much deeper into it than I have in this brief overview. However, as it 2262 00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:20,079 this brief overview. However, as it 2263 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:21,910 this brief overview. However, as it turns out, not a single member of this 2264 00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:21,920 turns out, not a single member of this 2265 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,710 turns out, not a single member of this ragtag band of misfits was the whitest 2266 00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:24,720 ragtag band of misfits was the whitest 2267 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:27,349 ragtag band of misfits was the whitest of Cineber 3's knights. Rather, that 2268 00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:27,359 of Cineber 3's knights. Rather, that 2269 00:42:27,359 --> 00:42:29,750 of Cineber 3's knights. Rather, that honor belonged to another. And if you 2270 00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:29,760 honor belonged to another. And if you 2271 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,670 honor belonged to another. And if you kept up with the City Barrow 3 situation 2272 00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:31,680 kept up with the City Barrow 3 situation 2273 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,069 kept up with the City Barrow 3 situation in any capacity, you'll likely know just 2274 00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:34,079 in any capacity, you'll likely know just 2275 00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:36,470 in any capacity, you'll likely know just who I'm talking about. Enter Just a 2276 00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:36,480 who I'm talking about. Enter Just a 2277 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,270 who I'm talking about. Enter Just a Robot, aka Jar, an art commentary 2278 00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:39,280 Robot, aka Jar, an art commentary 2279 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,030 Robot, aka Jar, an art commentary creator who once boasted more than 2280 00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:41,040 creator who once boasted more than 2281 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,069 creator who once boasted more than 200,000 subscribers. According to Jar, 2282 00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:44,079 200,000 subscribers. According to Jar, 2283 00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:46,550 200,000 subscribers. According to Jar, after witnessing Kumo quote unquote 2284 00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:46,560 after witnessing Kumo quote unquote 2285 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,870 after witnessing Kumo quote unquote beating a few people in debates about 2286 00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:48,880 beating a few people in debates about 2287 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,510 beating a few people in debates about Cinebear 03's actions and about how her 2288 00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:51,520 Cinebear 03's actions and about how her 2289 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,270 Cinebear 03's actions and about how her confession could have been the result of 2290 00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:53,280 confession could have been the result of 2291 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,829 confession could have been the result of coercion by Birdie, Jar decided he 2292 00:42:55,829 --> 00:42:55,839 coercion by Birdie, Jar decided he 2293 00:42:55,839 --> 00:42:58,390 coercion by Birdie, Jar decided he needed to help Cine Bear clear her name. 2294 00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:58,400 needed to help Cine Bear clear her name. 2295 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,470 needed to help Cine Bear clear her name. As a result, he would get into direct 2296 00:43:00,470 --> 00:43:00,480 As a result, he would get into direct 2297 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,349 As a result, he would get into direct contact with her, and this unholy union 2298 00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:03,359 contact with her, and this unholy union 2299 00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:05,510 contact with her, and this unholy union would result in some of the most ghastly 2300 00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:05,520 would result in some of the most ghastly 2301 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,990 would result in some of the most ghastly and cringe-inducing messages I've ever 2302 00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:08,000 and cringe-inducing messages I've ever 2303 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,990 and cringe-inducing messages I've ever seen. But none of this would be revealed 2304 00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:10,000 seen. But none of this would be revealed 2305 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,470 seen. But none of this would be revealed until much later. For now, all that was 2306 00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:12,480 until much later. For now, all that was 2307 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,630 until much later. For now, all that was publicly known was that Cine Bear may or 2308 00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:14,640 publicly known was that Cine Bear may or 2309 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,470 publicly known was that Cine Bear may or may not have been working on a comeback 2310 00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:16,480 may not have been working on a comeback 2311 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,550 may not have been working on a comeback video, though all there was to back that 2312 00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:18,560 video, though all there was to back that 2313 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,349 video, though all there was to back that up was Birdie's word on Twitter. That is 2314 00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:21,359 up was Birdie's word on Twitter. That is 2315 00:43:21,359 --> 00:43:25,349 up was Birdie's word on Twitter. That is until September 30th, 2024 when just 15 2316 00:43:25,349 --> 00:43:25,359 until September 30th, 2024 when just 15 2317 00:43:25,359 --> 00:43:27,349 until September 30th, 2024 when just 15 days after her confession was uploaded, 2318 00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:27,359 days after her confession was uploaded, 2319 00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:30,069 days after her confession was uploaded, Cinebear 03 deleted it and uploaded in 2320 00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:30,079 Cinebear 03 deleted it and uploaded in 2321 00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:33,190 Cinebear 03 deleted it and uploaded in its place a new response titled My 2322 00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:33,200 its place a new response titled My 2323 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,630 its place a new response titled My Response Part One. 2324 00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:36,640 Response Part One. 2325 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,550 Response Part One. From the beginning, the intention of 2326 00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:38,560 From the beginning, the intention of 2327 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,190 From the beginning, the intention of this video was clear. Cinebear states 2328 00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:41,200 this video was clear. Cinebear states 2329 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,030 this video was clear. Cinebear states from the offset that she no longer 2330 00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:43,040 from the offset that she no longer 2331 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,950 from the offset that she no longer believed her relationship with Eno 2332 00:43:44,950 --> 00:43:44,960 believed her relationship with Eno 2333 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,349 believed her relationship with Eno constituted grooming. Rather, she makes 2334 00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:47,359 constituted grooming. Rather, she makes 2335 00:43:47,359 --> 00:43:48,950 constituted grooming. Rather, she makes the claim that she had made her 2336 00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:48,960 the claim that she had made her 2337 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,109 the claim that she had made her confession under duress, having been 2338 00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:51,119 confession under duress, having been 2339 00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:53,349 confession under duress, having been coaxed and guilted into it by the people 2340 00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:53,359 coaxed and guilted into it by the people 2341 00:43:53,359 --> 00:43:56,150 coaxed and guilted into it by the people around her, namely Birdie. Perhaps this 2342 00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:56,160 around her, namely Birdie. Perhaps this 2343 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,230 around her, namely Birdie. Perhaps this is why she saw fit to dedicate more than 2344 00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:58,240 is why she saw fit to dedicate more than 2345 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:00,470 is why she saw fit to dedicate more than half of this video to seemingly airing 2346 00:44:00,470 --> 00:44:00,480 half of this video to seemingly airing 2347 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,470 half of this video to seemingly airing out every single grievance that she had 2348 00:44:02,470 --> 00:44:02,480 out every single grievance that she had 2349 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,390 out every single grievance that she had ever had with Birdie, including things 2350 00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:04,400 ever had with Birdie, including things 2351 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,230 ever had with Birdie, including things like details about their personal 2352 00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:06,240 like details about their personal 2353 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:08,950 like details about their personal finances and Birdie's autistic need to 2354 00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:08,960 finances and Birdie's autistic need to 2355 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,430 finances and Birdie's autistic need to consume specific products. No, I'm not 2356 00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:11,440 consume specific products. No, I'm not 2357 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,510 consume specific products. No, I'm not joking. These are actual points she 2358 00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:13,520 joking. These are actual points she 2359 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,109 joking. These are actual points she brings up in her response video to 2360 00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:15,119 brings up in her response video to 2361 00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:17,589 brings up in her response video to grooming allegations. However, Cine Bear 2362 00:44:17,589 --> 00:44:17,599 grooming allegations. However, Cine Bear 2363 00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:19,750 grooming allegations. However, Cine Bear does take around 14 minutes of the video 2364 00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:19,760 does take around 14 minutes of the video 2365 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,670 does take around 14 minutes of the video to attempt to convince the audience that 2366 00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:21,680 to attempt to convince the audience that 2367 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,510 to attempt to convince the audience that what she had done did not meet the 2368 00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:23,520 what she had done did not meet the 2369 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,270 what she had done did not meet the textbook definition of the word 2370 00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:25,280 textbook definition of the word 2371 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,670 textbook definition of the word grooming. And in order to support this 2372 00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:27,680 grooming. And in order to support this 2373 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,069 grooming. And in order to support this claim, she pulls up a list of examples 2374 00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:30,079 claim, she pulls up a list of examples 2375 00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:32,390 claim, she pulls up a list of examples of actions predators supposedly take 2376 00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:32,400 of actions predators supposedly take 2377 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,630 of actions predators supposedly take when grooming children and attempts to 2378 00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:34,640 when grooming children and attempts to 2379 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,630 when grooming children and attempts to explain how none of them applied to her 2380 00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:36,640 explain how none of them applied to her 2381 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,109 explain how none of them applied to her specific relationship with Eno. I won't 2382 00:44:39,109 --> 00:44:39,119 specific relationship with Eno. I won't 2383 00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:40,950 specific relationship with Eno. I won't be going through Cinebear's rebuttal for 2384 00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:40,960 be going through Cinebear's rebuttal for 2385 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,950 be going through Cinebear's rebuttal for each and every one of these examples and 2386 00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:42,960 each and every one of these examples and 2387 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,470 each and every one of these examples and how she thought they did not match up 2388 00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:44,480 how she thought they did not match up 2389 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,950 how she thought they did not match up with her own actions. However, I will 2390 00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:46,960 with her own actions. However, I will 2391 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,790 with her own actions. However, I will list a few of them as well as some 2392 00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:48,800 list a few of them as well as some 2393 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,870 list a few of them as well as some issues people had with what she had to 2394 00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:50,880 issues people had with what she had to 2395 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,589 issues people had with what she had to say. For example, in response to the 2396 00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:53,599 say. For example, in response to the 2397 00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:55,750 say. For example, in response to the part of the grooming definition, which 2398 00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:55,760 part of the grooming definition, which 2399 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,510 part of the grooming definition, which states that the predator will often 2400 00:44:57,510 --> 00:44:57,520 states that the predator will often 2401 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,910 states that the predator will often attempt to educate the child on sexual 2402 00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:59,920 attempt to educate the child on sexual 2403 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,069 attempt to educate the child on sexual topics they might not be familiar with, 2404 00:45:02,069 --> 00:45:02,079 topics they might not be familiar with, 2405 00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:04,230 topics they might not be familiar with, Cinebear claims that she only talked to 2406 00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:04,240 Cinebear claims that she only talked to 2407 00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:07,910 Cinebear claims that she only talked to Anno about quote sat masochism and like 2408 00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:07,920 Anno about quote sat masochism and like 2409 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,950 Anno about quote sat masochism and like sadistic fantasies, not really sex. She 2410 00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:10,960 sadistic fantasies, not really sex. She 2411 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,109 sadistic fantasies, not really sex. She then immediately backtracks and says 2412 00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:13,119 then immediately backtracks and says 2413 00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:15,109 then immediately backtracks and says that sex was actually brought up in 2414 00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:15,119 that sex was actually brought up in 2415 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:17,190 that sex was actually brought up in their conversations, but it was never 2416 00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:17,200 their conversations, but it was never 2417 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,589 their conversations, but it was never her intention to quote unquote educate 2418 00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:19,599 her intention to quote unquote educate 2419 00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:21,829 her intention to quote unquote educate him on the topic. None of this was 2420 00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:21,839 him on the topic. None of this was 2421 00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:23,829 him on the topic. None of this was perceived as a particularly strong 2422 00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:23,839 perceived as a particularly strong 2423 00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:25,910 perceived as a particularly strong defense by the audience, with many 2424 00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:25,920 defense by the audience, with many 2425 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,150 defense by the audience, with many stating that in their eyes, discussing 2426 00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:28,160 stating that in their eyes, discussing 2427 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,550 stating that in their eyes, discussing extremely specific sexual fantasies like 2428 00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:30,560 extremely specific sexual fantasies like 2429 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,190 extremely specific sexual fantasies like these with a minor was just as badass, 2430 00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:33,200 these with a minor was just as badass, 2431 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,510 these with a minor was just as badass, if not worse, than discussing the topic 2432 00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:35,520 if not worse, than discussing the topic 2433 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,470 if not worse, than discussing the topic of sex itself. Cinebear also went on to 2434 00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:38,480 of sex itself. Cinebear also went on to 2435 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,550 of sex itself. Cinebear also went on to state that she did not intentionally 2436 00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:40,560 state that she did not intentionally 2437 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,870 state that she did not intentionally isolate Eno or build a trusting 2438 00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:42,880 isolate Eno or build a trusting 2439 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,190 isolate Eno or build a trusting relationship with him because Eno was 2440 00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:45,200 relationship with him because Eno was 2441 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,270 relationship with him because Eno was already isolated and seemed to 2442 00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:47,280 already isolated and seemed to 2443 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,349 already isolated and seemed to implicitly trust her before they started 2444 00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:49,359 implicitly trust her before they started 2445 00:45:49,359 --> 00:45:51,510 implicitly trust her before they started speaking because she was a large creator 2446 00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:51,520 speaking because she was a large creator 2447 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,990 speaking because she was a large creator he looked up to. Statements like these 2448 00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:54,000 he looked up to. Statements like these 2449 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,069 he looked up to. Statements like these were also picked apart by viewers of the 2450 00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:56,079 were also picked apart by viewers of the 2451 00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:58,390 were also picked apart by viewers of the video, as many didn't exactly seem 2452 00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:58,400 video, as many didn't exactly seem 2453 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,550 video, as many didn't exactly seem swayed by Cinebear's admission that the 2454 00:46:00,550 --> 00:46:00,560 swayed by Cinebear's admission that the 2455 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,829 swayed by Cinebear's admission that the minor she was speaking to 2456 00:46:01,829 --> 00:46:01,839 minor she was speaking to 2457 00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:04,230 minor she was speaking to inappropriately had been isolated and 2458 00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:04,240 inappropriately had been isolated and 2459 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,150 inappropriately had been isolated and implicitly trusted her as soon as they 2460 00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:06,160 implicitly trusted her as soon as they 2461 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,630 implicitly trusted her as soon as they began talking. Cinebear would go on to 2462 00:46:08,630 --> 00:46:08,640 began talking. Cinebear would go on to 2463 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,270 began talking. Cinebear would go on to admit that she did frequently ask Eno to 2464 00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:11,280 admit that she did frequently ask Eno to 2465 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,670 admit that she did frequently ask Eno to make things for her, including a vague 2466 00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:13,680 make things for her, including a vague 2467 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,829 make things for her, including a vague and unnamed comic that she claimed she 2468 00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:15,839 and unnamed comic that she claimed she 2469 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:18,550 and unnamed comic that she claimed she would not try to defend or justify. This 2470 00:46:18,550 --> 00:46:18,560 would not try to defend or justify. This 2471 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,630 would not try to defend or justify. This admission confirms the claims made in 2472 00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:20,640 admission confirms the claims made in 2473 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,069 admission confirms the claims made in the document that she had been 2474 00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:22,079 the document that she had been 2475 00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,710 the document that she had been encouraging Eno to create art in line 2476 00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:24,720 encouraging Eno to create art in line 2477 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:27,030 encouraging Eno to create art in line with the Sato masochistic fantasies that 2478 00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:27,040 with the Sato masochistic fantasies that 2479 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,589 with the Sato masochistic fantasies that they discussed. By far the most surreal 2480 00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:29,599 they discussed. By far the most surreal 2481 00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:31,510 they discussed. By far the most surreal moment of this defense actually comes 2482 00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:31,520 moment of this defense actually comes 2483 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,710 moment of this defense actually comes courtesy of Kumo himself. Cinebear 03 2484 00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:34,720 courtesy of Kumo himself. Cinebear 03 2485 00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:36,950 courtesy of Kumo himself. Cinebear 03 name drops Kumo within this video, 2486 00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:36,960 name drops Kumo within this video, 2487 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,349 name drops Kumo within this video, referring to him as someone who is quote 2488 00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:39,359 referring to him as someone who is quote 2489 00:46:39,359 --> 00:46:42,069 referring to him as someone who is quote very critical of child predators, and 2490 00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:42,079 very critical of child predators, and 2491 00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:44,230 very critical of child predators, and she stated that he had told her that 2492 00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:44,240 she stated that he had told her that 2493 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:46,710 she stated that he had told her that what she did wasn't grooming at all. In 2494 00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:46,720 what she did wasn't grooming at all. In 2495 00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:49,589 what she did wasn't grooming at all. In fact, he likened it to quote, "Locker 2496 00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:49,599 fact, he likened it to quote, "Locker 2497 00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:52,309 fact, he likened it to quote, "Locker room girl talk." In response, one 2498 00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:52,319 room girl talk." In response, one 2499 00:46:52,319 --> 00:46:54,550 room girl talk." In response, one particularly insightful commenter wrote, 2500 00:46:54,550 --> 00:46:54,560 particularly insightful commenter wrote, 2501 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,430 particularly insightful commenter wrote, "Two girls, you being 20 and the other 2502 00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:57,440 "Two girls, you being 20 and the other 2503 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,510 "Two girls, you being 20 and the other being a ninth grader," which I think 2504 00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:59,520 being a ninth grader," which I think 2505 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,190 being a ninth grader," which I think does a good job of conveying how 2506 00:47:01,190 --> 00:47:01,200 does a good job of conveying how 2507 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,270 does a good job of conveying how atrocious this defense sounded to most 2508 00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:03,280 atrocious this defense sounded to most 2509 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,510 atrocious this defense sounded to most viewers. I would also note the 2510 00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:05,520 viewers. I would also note the 2511 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,750 viewers. I would also note the discrepancy between the image of two 2512 00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:07,760 discrepancy between the image of two 2513 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,829 discrepancy between the image of two Stacies gossiping about the neighborhood 2514 00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:09,839 Stacies gossiping about the neighborhood 2515 00:47:09,839 --> 00:47:12,550 Stacies gossiping about the neighborhood Chad and an adult sending a child 2516 00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:12,560 Chad and an adult sending a child 2517 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,109 Chad and an adult sending a child explicit content and asking them to draw 2518 00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:15,119 explicit content and asking them to draw 2519 00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:17,030 explicit content and asking them to draw artwork that fits in with their SATA 2520 00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:17,040 artwork that fits in with their SATA 2521 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,589 artwork that fits in with their SATA masochistic fantasies since that seems 2522 00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:19,599 masochistic fantasies since that seems 2523 00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:21,750 masochistic fantasies since that seems slightly different to me. But once 2524 00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:21,760 slightly different to me. But once 2525 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,030 slightly different to me. But once again, what do I know? Overall, Cinear 2526 00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:25,040 again, what do I know? Overall, Cinear 2527 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,430 again, what do I know? Overall, Cinear 3's retelling of events in this video 2528 00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:27,440 3's retelling of events in this video 2529 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,349 3's retelling of events in this video seems to generally agree with the 2530 00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:29,359 seems to generally agree with the 2531 00:47:29,359 --> 00:47:31,990 seems to generally agree with the document Anno had made about her. If you 2532 00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:32,000 document Anno had made about her. If you 2533 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,829 document Anno had made about her. If you recall, the very first page of the 2534 00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:33,839 recall, the very first page of the 2535 00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:35,829 recall, the very first page of the document clarifies that Eno was never 2536 00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:35,839 document clarifies that Eno was never 2537 00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:37,750 document clarifies that Eno was never under the impression Cine Bear wanted to 2538 00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:37,760 under the impression Cine Bear wanted to 2539 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,910 under the impression Cine Bear wanted to date him. He seemed to be referring to 2540 00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:39,920 date him. He seemed to be referring to 2541 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,990 date him. He seemed to be referring to grooming in the sense that Cinebear was 2542 00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:42,000 grooming in the sense that Cinebear was 2543 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,470 grooming in the sense that Cinebear was trying to expose him to and normalize 2544 00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:44,480 trying to expose him to and normalize 2545 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,710 trying to expose him to and normalize sexual concepts and fantasies he 2546 00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:46,720 sexual concepts and fantasies he 2547 00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:48,950 sexual concepts and fantasies he shouldn't be exposed to and asking him 2548 00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:48,960 shouldn't be exposed to and asking him 2549 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,430 shouldn't be exposed to and asking him to engage in these fantasies with her. 2550 00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:51,440 to engage in these fantasies with her. 2551 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,750 to engage in these fantasies with her. And most believe that after seeing her 2552 00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:53,760 And most believe that after seeing her 2553 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,750 And most believe that after seeing her defense of herself, she had failed to 2554 00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:55,760 defense of herself, she had failed to 2555 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,309 defense of herself, she had failed to defend herself against these claims. Her 2556 00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:58,319 defend herself against these claims. Her 2557 00:47:58,319 --> 00:47:59,990 defend herself against these claims. Her main point in this section shows a 2558 00:47:59,990 --> 00:48:00,000 main point in this section shows a 2559 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,230 main point in this section shows a fixation on whether or not what she did 2560 00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:02,240 fixation on whether or not what she did 2561 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:03,829 fixation on whether or not what she did meets the definition of the word 2562 00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:03,839 meets the definition of the word 2563 00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:06,390 meets the definition of the word grooming, which in my opinion was a 2564 00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:06,400 grooming, which in my opinion was a 2565 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,470 grooming, which in my opinion was a losing battle from the very beginning. 2566 00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:08,480 losing battle from the very beginning. 2567 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,390 losing battle from the very beginning. Not only are there vastly varying 2568 00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:10,400 Not only are there vastly varying 2569 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,230 Not only are there vastly varying definitions of this word across the 2570 00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:12,240 definitions of this word across the 2571 00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,309 definitions of this word across the internet, but what Ciney Bear admits to 2572 00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:14,319 internet, but what Ciney Bear admits to 2573 00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:16,870 internet, but what Ciney Bear admits to doing within this more collective and 2574 00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:16,880 doing within this more collective and 2575 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,790 doing within this more collective and defensive response to the allegations 2576 00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:18,800 defensive response to the allegations 2577 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,950 defensive response to the allegations against her was easily enough for most 2578 00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:20,960 against her was easily enough for most 2579 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,030 against her was easily enough for most to condemn her, regardless of the word 2580 00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:23,040 to condemn her, regardless of the word 2581 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,870 to condemn her, regardless of the word they were going to use to describe her 2582 00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:24,880 they were going to use to describe her 2583 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,270 they were going to use to describe her actions. But if you'll recall, less than 2584 00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:27,280 actions. But if you'll recall, less than 2585 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:28,790 actions. But if you'll recall, less than half of this video was actually 2586 00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:28,800 half of this video was actually 2587 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,030 half of this video was actually dedicated to addressing the allegations, 2588 00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:31,040 dedicated to addressing the allegations, 2589 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,630 dedicated to addressing the allegations, with the rest being relegated to 2590 00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:32,640 with the rest being relegated to 2591 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,190 with the rest being relegated to discussing Birdie, his conduct, and the 2592 00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:35,200 discussing Birdie, his conduct, and the 2593 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,510 discussing Birdie, his conduct, and the fallout left behind after his video was 2594 00:48:37,510 --> 00:48:37,520 fallout left behind after his video was 2595 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,309 fallout left behind after his video was posted. In terms of Birdie's video, Cine 2596 00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:40,319 posted. In terms of Birdie's video, Cine 2597 00:48:40,319 --> 00:48:42,390 posted. In terms of Birdie's video, Cine Bear claimed that its intention was to 2598 00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:42,400 Bear claimed that its intention was to 2599 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,630 Bear claimed that its intention was to make the situation more about Birdie 2600 00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:44,640 make the situation more about Birdie 2601 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,870 make the situation more about Birdie than about Eno, with the end goal of 2602 00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:46,880 than about Eno, with the end goal of 2603 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,510 than about Eno, with the end goal of making quote a ton of money that isn't 2604 00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:49,520 making quote a ton of money that isn't 2605 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,829 making quote a ton of money that isn't even meant to help the victim. And I 2606 00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:51,839 even meant to help the victim. And I 2607 00:48:51,839 --> 00:48:53,750 even meant to help the victim. And I found this quote to be of particular 2608 00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:53,760 found this quote to be of particular 2609 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,309 found this quote to be of particular interest because yes, she does refer to 2610 00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:56,319 interest because yes, she does refer to 2611 00:48:56,319 --> 00:48:59,270 interest because yes, she does refer to Eno as the quote unquote victim here. 2612 00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:59,280 Eno as the quote unquote victim here. 2613 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,670 Eno as the quote unquote victim here. But I digress. She also called Bird's 2614 00:49:01,670 --> 00:49:01,680 But I digress. She also called Bird's 2615 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,790 But I digress. She also called Bird's GoFundMe a scam, specifically citing the 2616 00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:04,800 GoFundMe a scam, specifically citing the 2617 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,349 GoFundMe a scam, specifically citing the sexual allegation he had levied against 2618 00:49:07,349 --> 00:49:07,359 sexual allegation he had levied against 2619 00:49:07,359 --> 00:49:09,510 sexual allegation he had levied against her. She stated it should be clear to 2620 00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:09,520 her. She stated it should be clear to 2621 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,430 her. She stated it should be clear to anyone who listened to what Birdie said 2622 00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:11,440 anyone who listened to what Birdie said 2623 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,430 anyone who listened to what Birdie said in his video that he retracted his 2624 00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:13,440 in his video that he retracted his 2625 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,470 in his video that he retracted his consent in post after the uh touching 2626 00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:16,480 consent in post after the uh touching 2627 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,790 consent in post after the uh touching had occurred. She even went so far as to 2628 00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:18,800 had occurred. She even went so far as to 2629 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,950 had occurred. She even went so far as to say she believed this accusation could 2630 00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:20,960 say she believed this accusation could 2631 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,750 say she believed this accusation could constitute slander against her. Now, as 2632 00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:23,760 constitute slander against her. Now, as 2633 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,910 constitute slander against her. Now, as a mentioned, we will discuss Birdie's 2634 00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:25,920 a mentioned, we will discuss Birdie's 2635 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,790 a mentioned, we will discuss Birdie's conduct in more depth later because many 2636 00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:28,800 conduct in more depth later because many 2637 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,030 conduct in more depth later because many would come to agree that his behavior in 2638 00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:31,040 would come to agree that his behavior in 2639 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,670 would come to agree that his behavior in this situation and others was worthy of 2640 00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:33,680 this situation and others was worthy of 2641 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,670 this situation and others was worthy of condemnation. However, at the time 2642 00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:35,680 condemnation. However, at the time 2643 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,750 condemnation. However, at the time Cinebear made these points, they didn't 2644 00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:37,760 Cinebear made these points, they didn't 2645 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,069 Cinebear made these points, they didn't go over very well. most likely because 2646 00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:40,079 go over very well. most likely because 2647 00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:41,910 go over very well. most likely because they were accompanied by her doubling 2648 00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:41,920 they were accompanied by her doubling 2649 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,230 they were accompanied by her doubling down on and attempting to defend actions 2650 00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:44,240 down on and attempting to defend actions 2651 00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:47,109 down on and attempting to defend actions viewed by many as extremely degenerate. 2652 00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:47,119 viewed by many as extremely degenerate. 2653 00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:48,710 viewed by many as extremely degenerate. The last thing I will note is an 2654 00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:48,720 The last thing I will note is an 2655 00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:50,950 The last thing I will note is an extremely surreal segment of this video 2656 00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:50,960 extremely surreal segment of this video 2657 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,030 extremely surreal segment of this video in which Cinebear directly calls out 2658 00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:53,040 in which Cinebear directly calls out 2659 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,190 in which Cinebear directly calls out specific creators that had reacted to 2660 00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:55,200 specific creators that had reacted to 2661 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,510 specific creators that had reacted to her confession, including names like 2662 00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:57,520 her confession, including names like 2663 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,470 her confession, including names like Turkey Tom and Chud Logic. In this 2664 00:50:00,470 --> 00:50:00,480 Turkey Tom and Chud Logic. In this 2665 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,710 Turkey Tom and Chud Logic. In this section, she questions whether or not 2666 00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:02,720 section, she questions whether or not 2667 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:04,870 section, she questions whether or not people would be so harsh on her if all 2668 00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:04,880 people would be so harsh on her if all 2669 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,430 people would be so harsh on her if all of their online activity and Discord 2670 00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:07,440 of their online activity and Discord 2671 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,750 of their online activity and Discord messages were leaked to the public, 2672 00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:09,760 messages were leaked to the public, 2673 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,670 messages were leaked to the public, insinuating that these creators are 2674 00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:11,680 insinuating that these creators are 2675 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,150 insinuating that these creators are guilty of something similar to sending 2676 00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:14,160 guilty of something similar to sending 2677 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,069 guilty of something similar to sending degenerate content to minors and 2678 00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:16,079 degenerate content to minors and 2679 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:18,309 degenerate content to minors and coaching them to engage with their 2680 00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:18,319 coaching them to engage with their 2681 00:50:18,319 --> 00:50:21,270 coaching them to engage with their fantasies. Call me crazy, but I'm pretty 2682 00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:21,280 fantasies. Call me crazy, but I'm pretty 2683 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,910 fantasies. Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure Turkey Tom has never done anything 2684 00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:23,920 sure Turkey Tom has never done anything 2685 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,309 sure Turkey Tom has never done anything even close to what Cinebear admits to in 2686 00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:26,319 even close to what Cinebear admits to in 2687 00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:28,790 even close to what Cinebear admits to in this video. But if he has, I might need 2688 00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:28,800 this video. But if he has, I might need 2689 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,950 this video. But if he has, I might need to unfriend him because that's not very 2690 00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:30,960 to unfriend him because that's not very 2691 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,349 to unfriend him because that's not very skitty at all. In all honesty, I think 2692 00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:33,359 skitty at all. In all honesty, I think 2693 00:50:33,359 --> 00:50:35,750 skitty at all. In all honesty, I think that in making this argument, Cine Bear 2694 00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:35,760 that in making this argument, Cine Bear 2695 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,670 that in making this argument, Cine Bear may have inadvertently alluded to just 2696 00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:37,680 may have inadvertently alluded to just 2697 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,750 may have inadvertently alluded to just how normalized her own behavior had 2698 00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:39,760 how normalized her own behavior had 2699 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,750 how normalized her own behavior had become in her mind to the point that she 2700 00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:41,760 become in her mind to the point that she 2701 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,910 become in her mind to the point that she was convinced everyone criticizing her 2702 00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:43,920 was convinced everyone criticizing her 2703 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,589 was convinced everyone criticizing her must have done something like this in 2704 00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:45,599 must have done something like this in 2705 00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:47,910 must have done something like this in the past when the obvious reality of the 2706 00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:47,920 the past when the obvious reality of the 2707 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,069 the past when the obvious reality of the situation is that this behavior is seen 2708 00:50:50,069 --> 00:50:50,079 situation is that this behavior is seen 2709 00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:52,390 situation is that this behavior is seen by the average person as extremely 2710 00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:52,400 by the average person as extremely 2711 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,150 by the average person as extremely deplorable. And as much as she might 2712 00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:54,160 deplorable. And as much as she might 2713 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,150 deplorable. And as much as she might have thought blindly hurling allegations 2714 00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:56,160 have thought blindly hurling allegations 2715 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,829 have thought blindly hurling allegations at everyone calling her out would make 2716 00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:57,839 at everyone calling her out would make 2717 00:50:57,839 --> 00:50:59,990 at everyone calling her out would make her look better, I don't think it had 2718 00:50:59,990 --> 00:51:00,000 her look better, I don't think it had 2719 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,549 her look better, I don't think it had the intended effect. Ultimately, this 2720 00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:02,559 the intended effect. Ultimately, this 2721 00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:05,109 the intended effect. Ultimately, this video was received quite poorly, if you 2722 00:51:05,109 --> 00:51:05,119 video was received quite poorly, if you 2723 00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:06,870 video was received quite poorly, if you can even imagine that. The comment 2724 00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:06,880 can even imagine that. The comment 2725 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,470 can even imagine that. The comment section was filled with people pointing 2726 00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:08,480 section was filled with people pointing 2727 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,630 section was filled with people pointing out many of the things I just addressed, 2728 00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:10,640 out many of the things I just addressed, 2729 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,630 out many of the things I just addressed, and there were multiple videos produced 2730 00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:12,640 and there were multiple videos produced 2731 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,549 and there were multiple videos produced immediately afterwards that sought to 2732 00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:14,559 immediately afterwards that sought to 2733 00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:16,470 immediately afterwards that sought to dissect the points Cine Bear had made 2734 00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:16,480 dissect the points Cine Bear had made 2735 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,390 dissect the points Cine Bear had made within it and advise people in the 2736 00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:18,400 within it and advise people in the 2737 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,390 within it and advise people in the audience to not let her return to the 2738 00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:20,400 audience to not let her return to the 2739 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,390 audience to not let her return to the internet. Following this horrendous 2740 00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:22,400 internet. Following this horrendous 2741 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,470 internet. Following this horrendous reception, things were silent for a bit 2742 00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:24,480 reception, things were silent for a bit 2743 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,430 reception, things were silent for a bit from Cinebear and her allies, at least 2744 00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:27,440 from Cinebear and her allies, at least 2745 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,750 from Cinebear and her allies, at least publicly. As would be revealed later, 2746 00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:29,760 publicly. As would be revealed later, 2747 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,510 publicly. As would be revealed later, there was a significant amount of 2748 00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:31,520 there was a significant amount of 2749 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,750 there was a significant amount of turbulence occurring behind the scenes, 2750 00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:33,760 turbulence occurring behind the scenes, 2751 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,990 turbulence occurring behind the scenes, but I'll get to that in just a second. 2752 00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:36,000 but I'll get to that in just a second. 2753 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,630 but I'll get to that in just a second. In the meantime, even though nearly 300 2754 00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:38,640 In the meantime, even though nearly 300 2755 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,030 In the meantime, even though nearly 300 cumulative pages of Google documents had 2756 00:51:41,030 --> 00:51:41,040 cumulative pages of Google documents had 2757 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,710 cumulative pages of Google documents had been published accusing Cinebear of 2758 00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:42,720 been published accusing Cinebear of 2759 00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,190 been published accusing Cinebear of inappropriate interactions with minors, 2760 00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:45,200 inappropriate interactions with minors, 2761 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,030 inappropriate interactions with minors, another document was about to be 2762 00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:47,040 another document was about to be 2763 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,109 another document was about to be released. Although this one was kept to 2764 00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:49,119 released. Although this one was kept to 2765 00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:52,309 released. Although this one was kept to a mercifully short 12 pages. On October 2766 00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:52,319 a mercifully short 12 pages. On October 2767 00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:55,430 a mercifully short 12 pages. On October 1st, 2024, a day after Cinebear's second 2768 00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:55,440 1st, 2024, a day after Cinebear's second 2769 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,910 1st, 2024, a day after Cinebear's second response video went up, Laurel posted to 2770 00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:57,920 response video went up, Laurel posted to 2771 00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,990 response video went up, Laurel posted to Twitter claiming to have encountered yet 2772 00:51:59,990 --> 00:52:00,000 Twitter claiming to have encountered yet 2773 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,670 Twitter claiming to have encountered yet another person who Ciney Bear had 2774 00:52:01,670 --> 00:52:01,680 another person who Ciney Bear had 2775 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,069 another person who Ciney Bear had exchanged inappropriate messages with 2776 00:52:04,069 --> 00:52:04,079 exchanged inappropriate messages with 2777 00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:06,069 exchanged inappropriate messages with this supposedly occurring a few years 2778 00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:06,079 this supposedly occurring a few years 2779 00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:08,549 this supposedly occurring a few years ago. After continuing to post about this 2780 00:52:08,549 --> 00:52:08,559 ago. After continuing to post about this 2781 00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:10,710 ago. After continuing to post about this situation for the coming days, Laurel 2782 00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:10,720 situation for the coming days, Laurel 2783 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:12,630 situation for the coming days, Laurel would apparently get into contact with 2784 00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:12,640 would apparently get into contact with 2785 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,030 would apparently get into contact with the other person themselves. And on 2786 00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:15,040 the other person themselves. And on 2787 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,829 the other person themselves. And on October 9th, 2024, they would tweet out 2788 00:52:17,829 --> 00:52:17,839 October 9th, 2024, they would tweet out 2789 00:52:17,839 --> 00:52:21,190 October 9th, 2024, they would tweet out a document titled Cine Do. I won't be 2790 00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:21,200 a document titled Cine Do. I won't be 2791 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,430 a document titled Cine Do. I won't be going as indepth on this document as the 2792 00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:23,440 going as indepth on this document as the 2793 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,670 going as indepth on this document as the other two, but it was different from the 2794 00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:25,680 other two, but it was different from the 2795 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,910 other two, but it was different from the previous documents in that it did state 2796 00:52:27,910 --> 00:52:27,920 previous documents in that it did state 2797 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,309 previous documents in that it did state Cinebear had been seeking out a romantic 2798 00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:30,319 Cinebear had been seeking out a romantic 2799 00:52:30,319 --> 00:52:32,230 Cinebear had been seeking out a romantic relationship with the author, which led 2800 00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:32,240 relationship with the author, which led 2801 00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,230 relationship with the author, which led to their interactions becoming very 2802 00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:34,240 to their interactions becoming very 2803 00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:36,630 to their interactions becoming very intimate, including a lot of explicit 2804 00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:36,640 intimate, including a lot of explicit 2805 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,790 intimate, including a lot of explicit content exchanged between Cinebear when 2806 00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:38,800 content exchanged between Cinebear when 2807 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,630 content exchanged between Cinebear when she was an adult and the author when 2808 00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:40,640 she was an adult and the author when 2809 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,190 she was an adult and the author when they were 15 years old. However, the 2810 00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:43,200 they were 15 years old. However, the 2811 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,430 they were 15 years old. However, the document also clarifies that Cine Bear 2812 00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:45,440 document also clarifies that Cine Bear 2813 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,030 document also clarifies that Cine Bear had been a minor when the two of them 2814 00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:47,040 had been a minor when the two of them 2815 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,750 had been a minor when the two of them had met with her being 17 whilst the 2816 00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:49,760 had met with her being 17 whilst the 2817 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,870 had met with her being 17 whilst the author was 14. As per usual, I am not 2818 00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:52,880 author was 14. As per usual, I am not 2819 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,470 author was 14. As per usual, I am not here to pass judgment on these 2820 00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:54,480 here to pass judgment on these 2821 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,549 here to pass judgment on these allegations. However, I did want to 2822 00:52:56,549 --> 00:52:56,559 allegations. However, I did want to 2823 00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:58,630 allegations. However, I did want to bring them up as they are a part of the 2824 00:52:58,630 --> 00:52:58,640 bring them up as they are a part of the 2825 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,829 bring them up as they are a part of the story, but with that being said, I did 2826 00:53:01,829 --> 00:53:01,839 story, but with that being said, I did 2827 00:53:01,839 --> 00:53:03,750 story, but with that being said, I did mention before that there was turbulence 2828 00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:03,760 mention before that there was turbulence 2829 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,790 mention before that there was turbulence behind the scenes in Cinebear 03's camp. 2830 00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:06,800 behind the scenes in Cinebear 03's camp. 2831 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,870 behind the scenes in Cinebear 03's camp. If you'll recall, Cine Bear was speaking 2832 00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:08,880 If you'll recall, Cine Bear was speaking 2833 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,109 If you'll recall, Cine Bear was speaking with two main parties while creating her 2834 00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:11,119 with two main parties while creating her 2835 00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:13,589 with two main parties while creating her response to the allegations. Just a 2836 00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:13,599 response to the allegations. Just a 2837 00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:15,910 response to the allegations. Just a robot and the group chat featuring 2838 00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:15,920 robot and the group chat featuring 2839 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,950 robot and the group chat featuring creators like Kumo and Romantic Goblin. 2840 00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:18,960 creators like Kumo and Romantic Goblin. 2841 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,430 creators like Kumo and Romantic Goblin. As it turns out, the latter was unaware 2842 00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:21,440 As it turns out, the latter was unaware 2843 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,589 As it turns out, the latter was unaware of Cinebear's correspondence with the 2844 00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:23,599 of Cinebear's correspondence with the 2845 00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:26,150 of Cinebear's correspondence with the former. However, after they discovered 2846 00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:26,160 former. However, after they discovered 2847 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,030 former. However, after they discovered it, things did not end well. At some 2848 00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:29,040 it, things did not end well. At some 2849 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,030 it, things did not end well. At some point after the publishing of the third 2850 00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:31,040 point after the publishing of the third 2851 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,430 point after the publishing of the third document, Kumo was made aware of the 2852 00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:33,440 document, Kumo was made aware of the 2853 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,910 document, Kumo was made aware of the fact that Cinebear 03 was going to Just 2854 00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:35,920 fact that Cinebear 03 was going to Just 2855 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,549 fact that Cinebear 03 was going to Just a Robot for help. Not only receiving 2856 00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:38,559 a Robot for help. Not only receiving 2857 00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:40,790 a Robot for help. Not only receiving encouragement and reassurance from him, 2858 00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:40,800 encouragement and reassurance from him, 2859 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,270 encouragement and reassurance from him, but also working together with him on a 2860 00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:43,280 but also working together with him on a 2861 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,109 but also working together with him on a video that he was in the process of 2862 00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:45,119 video that he was in the process of 2863 00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:46,950 video that he was in the process of making, which defended her against the 2864 00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:46,960 making, which defended her against the 2865 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,030 making, which defended her against the allegations and sought to restore her 2866 00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:49,040 allegations and sought to restore her 2867 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,950 allegations and sought to restore her image while putting more scrutiny on 2868 00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:50,960 image while putting more scrutiny on 2869 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,190 image while putting more scrutiny on Birdie. Shortly after learning of this 2870 00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:53,200 Birdie. Shortly after learning of this 2871 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,829 Birdie. Shortly after learning of this collaboration's existence, Kumo decided 2872 00:53:55,829 --> 00:53:55,839 collaboration's existence, Kumo decided 2873 00:53:55,839 --> 00:53:57,910 collaboration's existence, Kumo decided for one reason or another that he could 2874 00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:57,920 for one reason or another that he could 2875 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,190 for one reason or another that he could no longer support Cinebear 03. The 2876 00:54:01,190 --> 00:54:01,200 no longer support Cinebear 03. The 2877 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,270 no longer support Cinebear 03. The reason he provided in the Cine Bear 2878 00:54:03,270 --> 00:54:03,280 reason he provided in the Cine Bear 2879 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,030 reason he provided in the Cine Bear Defense Force group chat for his 2880 00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:05,040 Defense Force group chat for his 2881 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,430 Defense Force group chat for his condemnation of Cinebear was that after 2882 00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:07,440 condemnation of Cinebear was that after 2883 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,670 condemnation of Cinebear was that after the release of her second video, he had 2884 00:54:09,670 --> 00:54:09,680 the release of her second video, he had 2885 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,630 the release of her second video, he had finally seen a specific unnamed DM that 2886 00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:12,640 finally seen a specific unnamed DM that 2887 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,030 finally seen a specific unnamed DM that Cinebear had sent Eno, which apparently 2888 00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:15,040 Cinebear had sent Eno, which apparently 2889 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,630 Cinebear had sent Eno, which apparently convinced him he could no longer 2890 00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:16,640 convinced him he could no longer 2891 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,190 convinced him he could no longer publicly defend her. This seems like an 2892 00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:19,200 publicly defend her. This seems like an 2893 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,430 publicly defend her. This seems like an intriguing reason because Romantic 2894 00:54:21,430 --> 00:54:21,440 intriguing reason because Romantic 2895 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,910 intriguing reason because Romantic Goblin states immediately afterwards 2896 00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:23,920 Goblin states immediately afterwards 2897 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,150 Goblin states immediately afterwards that the DM in question had been one of 2898 00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:26,160 that the DM in question had been one of 2899 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,470 that the DM in question had been one of the first ones Cine Bear had shown the 2900 00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:28,480 the first ones Cine Bear had shown the 2901 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,549 the first ones Cine Bear had shown the group, meaning it should have been well 2902 00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:30,559 group, meaning it should have been well 2903 00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:33,109 group, meaning it should have been well known to Kumo before this point. Due to 2904 00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:33,119 known to Kumo before this point. Due to 2905 00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:35,270 known to Kumo before this point. Due to this flimsy logic, people have since 2906 00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:35,280 this flimsy logic, people have since 2907 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,589 this flimsy logic, people have since speculated that Kumo actually left the 2908 00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:37,599 speculated that Kumo actually left the 2909 00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:40,150 speculated that Kumo actually left the chat and disavowed Cinebear in a jealous 2910 00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:40,160 chat and disavowed Cinebear in a jealous 2911 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,549 chat and disavowed Cinebear in a jealous fit after discovering she was also going 2912 00:54:42,549 --> 00:54:42,559 fit after discovering she was also going 2913 00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:44,549 fit after discovering she was also going to just a robot for help in this 2914 00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:44,559 to just a robot for help in this 2915 00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:47,750 to just a robot for help in this situation, seeking the comfort of his uh 2916 00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:47,760 situation, seeking the comfort of his uh 2917 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,230 situation, seeking the comfort of his uh far larger subscriber count as compared 2918 00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:50,240 far larger subscriber count as compared 2919 00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:53,430 far larger subscriber count as compared to Kumo's. But as I said, this is just 2920 00:54:53,430 --> 00:54:53,440 to Kumo's. But as I said, this is just 2921 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,230 to Kumo's. But as I said, this is just speculation. For all we know, Kumo did 2922 00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:56,240 speculation. For all we know, Kumo did 2923 00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:58,470 speculation. For all we know, Kumo did truly regret his actions and find it in 2924 00:54:58,470 --> 00:54:58,480 truly regret his actions and find it in 2925 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,870 truly regret his actions and find it in himself to condemn Cinebear after weeks 2926 00:55:00,870 --> 00:55:00,880 himself to condemn Cinebear after weeks 2927 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,710 himself to condemn Cinebear after weeks of helping her behind the scenes and 2928 00:55:02,710 --> 00:55:02,720 of helping her behind the scenes and 2929 00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:04,790 of helping her behind the scenes and debating people on her behalf, but 2930 00:55:04,790 --> 00:55:04,800 debating people on her behalf, but 2931 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,630 debating people on her behalf, but there's no way to know this for sure. 2932 00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:06,640 there's no way to know this for sure. 2933 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,790 there's no way to know this for sure. Kuma would eventually have his YouTube 2934 00:55:08,790 --> 00:55:08,800 Kuma would eventually have his YouTube 2935 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,030 Kuma would eventually have his YouTube channel deleted, presumably due to the 2936 00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:11,040 channel deleted, presumably due to the 2937 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,430 channel deleted, presumably due to the backlash received from this situation. 2938 00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:13,440 backlash received from this situation. 2939 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,430 backlash received from this situation. But before he left the internet, Kuma 2940 00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:15,440 But before he left the internet, Kuma 2941 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,829 But before he left the internet, Kuma would do two things. First, he would 2942 00:55:17,829 --> 00:55:17,839 would do two things. First, he would 2943 00:55:17,839 --> 00:55:20,150 would do two things. First, he would participate in a frankly very hard to 2944 00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:20,160 participate in a frankly very hard to 2945 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,630 participate in a frankly very hard to listen to Discord call in which he and a 2946 00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:22,640 listen to Discord call in which he and a 2947 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,790 listen to Discord call in which he and a few others turn on Cinebear and tell her 2948 00:55:24,790 --> 00:55:24,800 few others turn on Cinebear and tell her 2949 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,470 few others turn on Cinebear and tell her that they can no longer defend her 2950 00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:26,480 that they can no longer defend her 2951 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,430 that they can no longer defend her actions. And second, he would receive a 2952 00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:29,440 actions. And second, he would receive a 2953 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,910 actions. And second, he would receive a draft of just a robot's video defending 2954 00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:31,920 draft of just a robot's video defending 2955 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,309 draft of just a robot's video defending Cinebear 3 that he had sent around the 2956 00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:34,319 Cinebear 3 that he had sent around the 2957 00:55:34,319 --> 00:55:36,150 Cinebear 3 that he had sent around the community in order to get feedback on 2958 00:55:36,150 --> 00:55:36,160 community in order to get feedback on 2959 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,990 community in order to get feedback on it. And on October 13th, 2024, Kuma 2960 00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:40,000 it. And on October 13th, 2024, Kuma 2961 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,990 it. And on October 13th, 2024, Kuma would leak this draft to the public, 2962 00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:42,000 would leak this draft to the public, 2963 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,230 would leak this draft to the public, leading Jar to panic and release the 2964 00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:44,240 leading Jar to panic and release the 2965 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:46,470 leading Jar to panic and release the video on his own channel as well. The 2966 00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:46,480 video on his own channel as well. The 2967 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:47,990 video on his own channel as well. The fallout of this video would be 2968 00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:48,000 fallout of this video would be 2969 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,390 fallout of this video would be catastrophic for Just a Robot's career, 2970 00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:50,400 catastrophic for Just a Robot's career, 2971 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,309 catastrophic for Just a Robot's career, leading to a massive amount of negative 2972 00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:52,319 leading to a massive amount of negative 2973 00:55:52,319 --> 00:55:54,710 leading to a massive amount of negative attention on his channel, which resulted 2974 00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:54,720 attention on his channel, which resulted 2975 00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:57,510 attention on his channel, which resulted in not only the loss of more than 10,000 2976 00:55:57,510 --> 00:55:57,520 in not only the loss of more than 10,000 2977 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,750 in not only the loss of more than 10,000 subscribers, but also an influx of 2978 00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:59,760 subscribers, but also an influx of 2979 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,670 subscribers, but also an influx of scrutiny that led to various other 2980 00:56:01,670 --> 00:56:01,680 scrutiny that led to various other 2981 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,510 scrutiny that led to various other things about his past being viewed 2982 00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:03,520 things about his past being viewed 2983 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,470 things about his past being viewed through a new lens. Now, Jar's video was 2984 00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:06,480 through a new lens. Now, Jar's video was 2985 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,630 through a new lens. Now, Jar's video was bound to be contentious from the start. 2986 00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:08,640 bound to be contentious from the start. 2987 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,470 bound to be contentious from the start. After all, he was sticking his neck out 2988 00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:10,480 After all, he was sticking his neck out 2989 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,910 After all, he was sticking his neck out to defend someone who had been 2990 00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:11,920 to defend someone who had been 2991 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,309 to defend someone who had been continuously lampuned for nearly a month 2992 00:56:14,309 --> 00:56:14,319 continuously lampuned for nearly a month 2993 00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:16,630 continuously lampuned for nearly a month straight by that point. But I'm sure he 2994 00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:16,640 straight by that point. But I'm sure he 2995 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,150 straight by that point. But I'm sure he couldn't have anticipated that the 2996 00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:18,160 couldn't have anticipated that the 2997 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,910 couldn't have anticipated that the response would be anywhere near as 2998 00:56:19,910 --> 00:56:19,920 response would be anywhere near as 2999 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,150 response would be anywhere near as visceral as it was. And I'll quickly 3000 00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:22,160 visceral as it was. And I'll quickly 3001 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,069 visceral as it was. And I'll quickly address here a few reasons that the 3002 00:56:24,069 --> 00:56:24,079 address here a few reasons that the 3003 00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:27,190 address here a few reasons that the video was received so poorly. To start, 3004 00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:27,200 video was received so poorly. To start, 3005 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,589 video was received so poorly. To start, many found it baffling how Just a Robot 3006 00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:29,599 many found it baffling how Just a Robot 3007 00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:31,589 many found it baffling how Just a Robot would incessantly draw comparisons 3008 00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:31,599 would incessantly draw comparisons 3009 00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:33,910 would incessantly draw comparisons between the allegations against Cinebear 3010 00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:33,920 between the allegations against Cinebear 3011 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,789 between the allegations against Cinebear and seemingly unrelated situations like 3012 00:56:36,789 --> 00:56:36,799 and seemingly unrelated situations like 3013 00:56:36,799 --> 00:56:39,109 and seemingly unrelated situations like that of Pyroynical, who had been accused 3014 00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:39,119 that of Pyroynical, who had been accused 3015 00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:41,430 that of Pyroynical, who had been accused of grooming in the past. It seems as 3016 00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:41,440 of grooming in the past. It seems as 3017 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,190 of grooming in the past. It seems as though the point Just a Robot was trying 3018 00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:43,200 though the point Just a Robot was trying 3019 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,270 though the point Just a Robot was trying to make was that the internet had quote 3020 00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:45,280 to make was that the internet had quote 3021 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,750 to make was that the internet had quote unquote forgiven Pyrocynical and it 3022 00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:47,760 unquote forgiven Pyrocynical and it 3023 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,230 unquote forgiven Pyrocynical and it should do the same with Cinebear 03. 3024 00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:50,240 should do the same with Cinebear 03. 3025 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:52,470 should do the same with Cinebear 03. However, he himself acknowledges that 3026 00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:52,480 However, he himself acknowledges that 3027 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,390 However, he himself acknowledges that there are many differences between the 3028 00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:54,400 there are many differences between the 3029 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,470 there are many differences between the situations that could easily affect how 3030 00:56:56,470 --> 00:56:56,480 situations that could easily affect how 3031 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,150 situations that could easily affect how people thought about them. So, this 3032 00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:58,160 people thought about them. So, this 3033 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,309 people thought about them. So, this point was ultimately perceived as him 3034 00:57:00,309 --> 00:57:00,319 point was ultimately perceived as him 3035 00:57:00,319 --> 00:57:02,069 point was ultimately perceived as him grasping for anything that could make 3036 00:57:02,069 --> 00:57:02,079 grasping for anything that could make 3037 00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:04,549 grasping for anything that could make Cine Bear's situation more palatable to 3038 00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:04,559 Cine Bear's situation more palatable to 3039 00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:07,109 Cine Bear's situation more palatable to the public. Throughout the video, Jar 3040 00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:07,119 the public. Throughout the video, Jar 3041 00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:09,430 the public. Throughout the video, Jar also makes a plethora of extremely 3042 00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:09,440 also makes a plethora of extremely 3043 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,349 also makes a plethora of extremely questionable statements, like when he 3044 00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:11,359 questionable statements, like when he 3045 00:57:11,359 --> 00:57:13,829 questionable statements, like when he referred to Cinebear as quote, "a 3046 00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:13,839 referred to Cinebear as quote, "a 3047 00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:16,630 referred to Cinebear as quote, "a cummeror but not a groomer." Or when he 3048 00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:16,640 cummeror but not a groomer." Or when he 3049 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,349 cummeror but not a groomer." Or when he says, and I quote, "It turns out that 3050 00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:19,359 says, and I quote, "It turns out that 3051 00:57:19,359 --> 00:57:21,109 says, and I quote, "It turns out that the minor was the one being 3052 00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:21,119 the minor was the one being 3053 00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:23,589 the minor was the one being inappropriate first." I wish I was 3054 00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:23,599 inappropriate first." I wish I was 3055 00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:26,390 inappropriate first." I wish I was joking. These are some Yandere Devier 3056 00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:26,400 joking. These are some Yandere Devier 3057 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,549 joking. These are some Yandere Devier statements here. Furthermore, just like 3058 00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:28,559 statements here. Furthermore, just like 3059 00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:30,950 statements here. Furthermore, just like Cinebear, Just a Robot spent a lot of 3060 00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:30,960 Cinebear, Just a Robot spent a lot of 3061 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,950 Cinebear, Just a Robot spent a lot of time discussing how inappropriately he 3062 00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:32,960 time discussing how inappropriately he 3063 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,230 time discussing how inappropriately he thought Birdie had handled the 3064 00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:34,240 thought Birdie had handled the 3065 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,630 thought Birdie had handled the allegations, bringing up the overall 3066 00:57:36,630 --> 00:57:36,640 allegations, bringing up the overall 3067 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,349 allegations, bringing up the overall unprofessionalism, the clear bias, and 3068 00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:39,359 unprofessionalism, the clear bias, and 3069 00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:41,270 unprofessionalism, the clear bias, and the potential ulterior motives that 3070 00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:41,280 the potential ulterior motives that 3071 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,109 the potential ulterior motives that might have been behind his GoFundMe 3072 00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:43,119 might have been behind his GoFundMe 3073 00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:45,109 might have been behind his GoFundMe campaign. He also scoffs at some of 3074 00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:45,119 campaign. He also scoffs at some of 3075 00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:47,109 campaign. He also scoffs at some of Bird's tweets that suggested he felt 3076 00:57:47,109 --> 00:57:47,119 Bird's tweets that suggested he felt 3077 00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:49,270 Bird's tweets that suggested he felt unsafe around Cinebear, claiming that he 3078 00:57:49,270 --> 00:57:49,280 unsafe around Cinebear, claiming that he 3079 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,670 unsafe around Cinebear, claiming that he had no reason to feel this way. As we'll 3080 00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:51,680 had no reason to feel this way. As we'll 3081 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,069 had no reason to feel this way. As we'll see in just a bit, Jar may have been a 3082 00:57:54,069 --> 00:57:54,079 see in just a bit, Jar may have been a 3083 00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:55,670 see in just a bit, Jar may have been a little ahead of his time when it came to 3084 00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:55,680 little ahead of his time when it came to 3085 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,829 little ahead of his time when it came to these kinds of sentiments, as many have 3086 00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:57,839 these kinds of sentiments, as many have 3087 00:57:57,839 --> 00:58:00,150 these kinds of sentiments, as many have since turned on Birdie and begun levying 3088 00:58:00,150 --> 00:58:00,160 since turned on Birdie and begun levying 3089 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,230 since turned on Birdie and begun levying a lot of these same criticisms towards 3090 00:58:02,230 --> 00:58:02,240 a lot of these same criticisms towards 3091 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,230 a lot of these same criticisms towards him, as well as looking into his past 3092 00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:04,240 him, as well as looking into his past 3093 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,630 him, as well as looking into his past once more. However, something that irked 3094 00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:06,640 once more. However, something that irked 3095 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,069 once more. However, something that irked a lot of people looking into this 3096 00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:08,079 a lot of people looking into this 3097 00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:10,470 a lot of people looking into this situation was that Brody's motives and 3098 00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:10,480 situation was that Brody's motives and 3099 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,030 situation was that Brody's motives and conduct are a completely separate issue 3100 00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:13,040 conduct are a completely separate issue 3101 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,630 conduct are a completely separate issue from whether or not one believes 3102 00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:14,640 from whether or not one believes 3103 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,430 from whether or not one believes Cinebear 03 is worthy of condemnation. 3104 00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:17,440 Cinebear 03 is worthy of condemnation. 3105 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,270 Cinebear 03 is worthy of condemnation. It's easy to forget when looking at the 3106 00:58:19,270 --> 00:58:19,280 It's easy to forget when looking at the 3107 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,510 It's easy to forget when looking at the situation from the outside, but Birdie 3108 00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:21,520 situation from the outside, but Birdie 3109 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,510 situation from the outside, but Birdie is not the only one who was making these 3110 00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:23,520 is not the only one who was making these 3111 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,589 is not the only one who was making these accusations against Cinebear. And 3112 00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:25,599 accusations against Cinebear. And 3113 00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:27,109 accusations against Cinebear. And although it is certainly important to 3114 00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:27,119 although it is certainly important to 3115 00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:29,510 although it is certainly important to call out his misconduct, I believe it is 3116 00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:29,520 call out his misconduct, I believe it is 3117 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,670 call out his misconduct, I believe it is possible to do so without conflating 3118 00:58:31,670 --> 00:58:31,680 possible to do so without conflating 3119 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,349 possible to do so without conflating those call outs with the defense of 3120 00:58:33,349 --> 00:58:33,359 those call outs with the defense of 3121 00:58:33,359 --> 00:58:36,549 those call outs with the defense of Cinebear 03, which is exactly what Just 3122 00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:36,559 Cinebear 03, which is exactly what Just 3123 00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:38,950 Cinebear 03, which is exactly what Just Robot did. A large section of Jar's 3124 00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:38,960 Robot did. A large section of Jar's 3125 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,109 Robot did. A large section of Jar's video was dedicated to an interview in 3126 00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:41,119 video was dedicated to an interview in 3127 00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:43,349 video was dedicated to an interview in which he brought Cinebear into a Discord 3128 00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:43,359 which he brought Cinebear into a Discord 3129 00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:45,190 which he brought Cinebear into a Discord call so that he could effectively tell 3130 00:58:45,190 --> 00:58:45,200 call so that he could effectively tell 3131 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,510 call so that he could effectively tell her that she wasn't guilty in between 3132 00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:47,520 her that she wasn't guilty in between 3133 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,270 her that she wasn't guilty in between making extremely uncomfortable 3134 00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:49,280 making extremely uncomfortable 3135 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,430 making extremely uncomfortable statements. A message containing the 3136 00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:51,440 statements. A message containing the 3137 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,349 statements. A message containing the pre-prepared questions Jar had sent 3138 00:58:53,349 --> 00:58:53,359 pre-prepared questions Jar had sent 3139 00:58:53,359 --> 00:58:55,349 pre-prepared questions Jar had sent Cinebear in advance for her to prepare 3140 00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:55,359 Cinebear in advance for her to prepare 3141 00:58:55,359 --> 00:58:57,270 Cinebear in advance for her to prepare for this interview showed that multiple 3142 00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:57,280 for this interview showed that multiple 3143 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,829 for this interview showed that multiple of the quote unquote questions were 3144 00:58:59,829 --> 00:58:59,839 of the quote unquote questions were 3145 00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:01,910 of the quote unquote questions were literally just statements saying things 3146 00:59:01,910 --> 00:59:01,920 literally just statements saying things 3147 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,990 literally just statements saying things like no I do not think you are innocent 3148 00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:04,000 like no I do not think you are innocent 3149 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,390 like no I do not think you are innocent in all this but I don't think groomer or 3150 00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:06,400 in all this but I don't think groomer or 3151 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,390 in all this but I don't think groomer or predator is the right thing to call you. 3152 00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:08,400 predator is the right thing to call you. 3153 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,390 predator is the right thing to call you. The fact that a lot of these were just 3154 00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:10,400 The fact that a lot of these were just 3155 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,549 The fact that a lot of these were just Jar declaring that Cine Bear wasn't as 3156 00:59:12,549 --> 00:59:12,559 Jar declaring that Cine Bear wasn't as 3157 00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:14,710 Jar declaring that Cine Bear wasn't as bad as the internet thought she was did 3158 00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:14,720 bad as the internet thought she was did 3159 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,309 bad as the internet thought she was did not exactly bode well for his 3160 00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:16,319 not exactly bode well for his 3161 00:59:16,319 --> 00:59:18,789 not exactly bode well for his journalistic integrity in this situation 3162 00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:18,799 journalistic integrity in this situation 3163 00:59:18,799 --> 00:59:20,870 journalistic integrity in this situation as many perceived the interview segment 3164 00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:20,880 as many perceived the interview segment 3165 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,349 as many perceived the interview segment to be a particularly egregious series of 3166 00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:23,359 to be a particularly egregious series of 3167 00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:25,750 to be a particularly egregious series of softballs meant to paint Cinebear in a 3168 00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:25,760 softballs meant to paint Cinebear in a 3169 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,150 softballs meant to paint Cinebear in a more positive light. Shortly after Just 3170 00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:28,160 more positive light. Shortly after Just 3171 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,150 more positive light. Shortly after Just a Robot's video went up, a drama 3172 00:59:30,150 --> 00:59:30,160 a Robot's video went up, a drama 3173 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,230 a Robot's video went up, a drama YouTuber named Chudlogic decided to 3174 00:59:32,230 --> 00:59:32,240 YouTuber named Chudlogic decided to 3175 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,870 YouTuber named Chudlogic decided to review it live on stream. And while he 3176 00:59:34,870 --> 00:59:34,880 review it live on stream. And while he 3177 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,349 review it live on stream. And while he was watching, Sunny Bear03 dumped the 3178 00:59:37,349 --> 00:59:37,359 was watching, Sunny Bear03 dumped the 3179 00:59:37,359 --> 00:59:39,589 was watching, Sunny Bear03 dumped the logs of all her messages with Just a 3180 00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:39,599 logs of all her messages with Just a 3181 00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:41,829 logs of all her messages with Just a Robot that were exchanged prior to the 3182 00:59:41,829 --> 00:59:41,839 Robot that were exchanged prior to the 3183 00:59:41,839 --> 00:59:44,069 Robot that were exchanged prior to the video's creation. Many found these logs 3184 00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:44,079 video's creation. Many found these logs 3185 00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:46,069 video's creation. Many found these logs to be extremely embarrassing and 3186 00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:46,079 to be extremely embarrassing and 3187 00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:48,069 to be extremely embarrassing and inappropriate, as it truly seemed as 3188 00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:48,079 inappropriate, as it truly seemed as 3189 00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:49,829 inappropriate, as it truly seemed as though Just a Robot was doing everything 3190 00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:49,839 though Just a Robot was doing everything 3191 00:59:49,839 --> 00:59:53,190 though Just a Robot was doing everything in his power to forge a closer bond with 3192 00:59:53,190 --> 00:59:53,200 in his power to forge a closer bond with 3193 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,349 in his power to forge a closer bond with Cinebear while in the process of making 3194 00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:55,359 Cinebear while in the process of making 3195 00:59:55,359 --> 00:59:57,670 Cinebear while in the process of making his video defending her against grooming 3196 00:59:57,670 --> 00:59:57,680 his video defending her against grooming 3197 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,069 his video defending her against grooming allegations. Not only would he send 3198 01:00:00,069 --> 01:00:00,079 allegations. Not only would he send 3199 01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:02,309 allegations. Not only would he send completely unprompted quote unquote 3200 01:00:02,309 --> 01:00:02,319 completely unprompted quote unquote 3201 01:00:02,319 --> 01:00:04,950 completely unprompted quote unquote jokes along the lines of asking, "Want 3202 01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:04,960 jokes along the lines of asking, "Want 3203 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,030 jokes along the lines of asking, "Want to see my cock?" before sending a 3204 01:00:07,030 --> 01:00:07,040 to see my cock?" before sending a 3205 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,349 to see my cock?" before sending a picture of a rooster or replying to a 3206 01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:09,359 picture of a rooster or replying to a 3207 01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:11,589 picture of a rooster or replying to a picture of her cat by saying, "Nice 3208 01:00:11,589 --> 01:00:11,599 picture of her cat by saying, "Nice 3209 01:00:11,599 --> 01:00:13,990 picture of her cat by saying, "Nice pussy." But he would also apparently ask 3210 01:00:13,990 --> 01:00:14,000 pussy." But he would also apparently ask 3211 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,150 pussy." But he would also apparently ask her to get in a voice chat with him and 3212 01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:16,160 her to get in a voice chat with him and 3213 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,309 her to get in a voice chat with him and talk to him until he fell asleep. He 3214 01:00:18,309 --> 01:00:18,319 talk to him until he fell asleep. He 3215 01:00:18,319 --> 01:00:20,549 talk to him until he fell asleep. He would also apparently randomly send 3216 01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:20,559 would also apparently randomly send 3217 01:00:20,559 --> 01:00:22,870 would also apparently randomly send voice messages in which he bemons how 3218 01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:22,880 voice messages in which he bemons how 3219 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,870 voice messages in which he bemons how hard he was working to make his video 3220 01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:24,880 hard he was working to make his video 3221 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,109 hard he was working to make his video defending her as if he wanted to impress 3222 01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:27,119 defending her as if he wanted to impress 3223 01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:29,589 defending her as if he wanted to impress her. And he would further show his bias 3224 01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:29,599 her. And he would further show his bias 3225 01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:32,150 her. And he would further show his bias by saying things like, "You are a human, 3226 01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:32,160 by saying things like, "You are a human, 3227 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,630 by saying things like, "You are a human, so we are all monsters, but you aren't a 3228 01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:34,640 so we are all monsters, but you aren't a 3229 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,430 so we are all monsters, but you aren't a groomer." And, "Well, I'm better than 3230 01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:37,440 groomer." And, "Well, I'm better than 3231 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,829 groomer." And, "Well, I'm better than everyone. I don't think you're crazy." 3232 01:00:39,829 --> 01:00:39,839 everyone. I don't think you're crazy." 3233 01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:42,150 everyone. I don't think you're crazy." Making it clear that Jar was immensely 3234 01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:42,160 Making it clear that Jar was immensely 3235 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:43,829 Making it clear that Jar was immensely compromised before going into the 3236 01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:43,839 compromised before going into the 3237 01:00:43,839 --> 01:00:45,910 compromised before going into the production of this video. Perhaps 3238 01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:45,920 production of this video. Perhaps 3239 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,990 production of this video. Perhaps because of this personal bias, Just a 3240 01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:48,000 because of this personal bias, Just a 3241 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,150 because of this personal bias, Just a Robot seems to have used Cinebear as a 3242 01:00:50,150 --> 01:00:50,160 Robot seems to have used Cinebear as a 3243 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,150 Robot seems to have used Cinebear as a trustworthy resource while researching 3244 01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:52,160 trustworthy resource while researching 3245 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,309 trustworthy resource while researching for this video, as can be seen in this 3246 01:00:54,309 --> 01:00:54,319 for this video, as can be seen in this 3247 01:00:54,319 --> 01:00:55,910 for this video, as can be seen in this set of screenshots, which apparently 3248 01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:55,920 set of screenshots, which apparently 3249 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,309 set of screenshots, which apparently depict him asking her for evidence to 3250 01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:58,319 depict him asking her for evidence to 3251 01:00:58,319 --> 01:01:00,309 depict him asking her for evidence to back up part of her argument and then 3252 01:01:00,309 --> 01:01:00,319 back up part of her argument and then 3253 01:01:00,319 --> 01:01:02,549 back up part of her argument and then presenting what she gave him as fact in 3254 01:01:02,549 --> 01:01:02,559 presenting what she gave him as fact in 3255 01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:04,549 presenting what she gave him as fact in his video. Even if it wasn't just a 3256 01:01:04,549 --> 01:01:04,559 his video. Even if it wasn't just a 3257 01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:06,789 his video. Even if it wasn't just a robot's intention to create an unbiased 3258 01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:06,799 robot's intention to create an unbiased 3259 01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:09,109 robot's intention to create an unbiased video, many still took issue with this 3260 01:01:09,109 --> 01:01:09,119 video, many still took issue with this 3261 01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:11,510 video, many still took issue with this very clear conflict of interest, as this 3262 01:01:11,510 --> 01:01:11,520 very clear conflict of interest, as this 3263 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,910 very clear conflict of interest, as this was a very sensitive situation in which 3264 01:01:13,910 --> 01:01:13,920 was a very sensitive situation in which 3265 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,470 was a very sensitive situation in which at least some degree of objectivity is 3266 01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:16,480 at least some degree of objectivity is 3267 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,950 at least some degree of objectivity is important. The leaked messages later led 3268 01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:18,960 important. The leaked messages later led 3269 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,270 important. The leaked messages later led Shot Logic to press Just a Robot on the 3270 01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:21,280 Shot Logic to press Just a Robot on the 3271 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,510 Shot Logic to press Just a Robot on the motives behind his video as the two 3272 01:01:23,510 --> 01:01:23,520 motives behind his video as the two 3273 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,510 motives behind his video as the two debated live on stream. And 3274 01:01:25,510 --> 01:01:25,520 debated live on stream. And 3275 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,510 debated live on stream. And unsurprisingly, Jar would almost 3276 01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:27,520 unsurprisingly, Jar would almost 3277 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,910 unsurprisingly, Jar would almost immediately fold, admitting that he 3278 01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:29,920 immediately fold, admitting that he 3279 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,309 immediately fold, admitting that he happened to have a sexual interest in 3280 01:01:32,309 --> 01:01:32,319 happened to have a sexual interest in 3281 01:01:32,319 --> 01:01:34,630 happened to have a sexual interest in Cinebear. But he attempted to explain 3282 01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:34,640 Cinebear. But he attempted to explain 3283 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,950 Cinebear. But he attempted to explain this away by saying it was only natural 3284 01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:36,960 this away by saying it was only natural 3285 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,950 this away by saying it was only natural that he felt that way because he's a 3286 01:01:38,950 --> 01:01:38,960 that he felt that way because he's a 3287 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,750 that he felt that way because he's a heterosexual male and Cinebear is a 3288 01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:41,760 heterosexual male and Cinebear is a 3289 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,109 heterosexual male and Cinebear is a woman. Uh, I personally am a straight 3290 01:01:45,109 --> 01:01:45,119 woman. Uh, I personally am a straight 3291 01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:47,430 woman. Uh, I personally am a straight male and I am only attracted to one 3292 01:01:47,430 --> 01:01:47,440 male and I am only attracted to one 3293 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,589 male and I am only attracted to one single girl, so I'm not exactly sure 3294 01:01:49,589 --> 01:01:49,599 single girl, so I'm not exactly sure 3295 01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:51,109 single girl, so I'm not exactly sure what Just a Robot thought this would 3296 01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:51,119 what Just a Robot thought this would 3297 01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:52,950 what Just a Robot thought this would prove, and many found this line of 3298 01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:52,960 prove, and many found this line of 3299 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,190 prove, and many found this line of thought completely ludicrous. In this 3300 01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:55,200 thought completely ludicrous. In this 3301 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,150 thought completely ludicrous. In this stream, Jar also admitted to not having 3302 01:01:58,150 --> 01:01:58,160 stream, Jar also admitted to not having 3303 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,789 stream, Jar also admitted to not having reviewed the messages that Cinebear 03 3304 01:02:00,789 --> 01:02:00,799 reviewed the messages that Cinebear 03 3305 01:02:00,799 --> 01:02:03,510 reviewed the messages that Cinebear 03 had sent to Eno, which many found 3306 01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:03,520 had sent to Eno, which many found 3307 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,829 had sent to Eno, which many found extremely baffling, as he had gone out 3308 01:02:05,829 --> 01:02:05,839 extremely baffling, as he had gone out 3309 01:02:05,839 --> 01:02:07,910 extremely baffling, as he had gone out of his way to defend someone accused of 3310 01:02:07,910 --> 01:02:07,920 of his way to defend someone accused of 3311 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,390 of his way to defend someone accused of grooming a minor without fully reading 3312 01:02:10,390 --> 01:02:10,400 grooming a minor without fully reading 3313 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,630 grooming a minor without fully reading the messages exchanged between that 3314 01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:12,640 the messages exchanged between that 3315 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,109 the messages exchanged between that person and the minor in question. And I 3316 01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:15,119 person and the minor in question. And I 3317 01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:16,870 person and the minor in question. And I don't really think I need to explain why 3318 01:02:16,870 --> 01:02:16,880 don't really think I need to explain why 3319 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,870 don't really think I need to explain why that is extremely illconceived and 3320 01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:18,880 that is extremely illconceived and 3321 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,030 that is extremely illconceived and irresponsible for someone with more than 3322 01:02:21,030 --> 01:02:21,040 irresponsible for someone with more than 3323 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,990 irresponsible for someone with more than 200,000 subscribers. Overall, I think 3324 01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:24,000 200,000 subscribers. Overall, I think 3325 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,990 200,000 subscribers. Overall, I think Jar's coverage of the situation can be 3326 01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:26,000 Jar's coverage of the situation can be 3327 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,069 Jar's coverage of the situation can be summed up in this image, which depicts 3328 01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:28,079 summed up in this image, which depicts 3329 01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:30,150 summed up in this image, which depicts him responding to a comment telling him 3330 01:02:30,150 --> 01:02:30,160 him responding to a comment telling him 3331 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,470 him responding to a comment telling him that Cine Bear was probably lying to him 3332 01:02:32,470 --> 01:02:32,480 that Cine Bear was probably lying to him 3333 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,789 that Cine Bear was probably lying to him to make herself look better. In 3334 01:02:34,789 --> 01:02:34,799 to make herself look better. In 3335 01:02:34,799 --> 01:02:37,670 to make herself look better. In response, Jar says, "Sure, she could be 3336 01:02:37,670 --> 01:02:37,680 response, Jar says, "Sure, she could be 3337 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,990 response, Jar says, "Sure, she could be lying to me, but why should we take Jack 3338 01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:40,000 lying to me, but why should we take Jack 3339 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,069 lying to me, but why should we take Jack at its word? Obviously, the correct 3340 01:02:42,069 --> 01:02:42,079 at its word? Obviously, the correct 3341 01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:43,670 at its word? Obviously, the correct mindset when approaching serious 3342 01:02:43,670 --> 01:02:43,680 mindset when approaching serious 3343 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,230 mindset when approaching serious allegations is to not uncritically 3344 01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:46,240 allegations is to not uncritically 3345 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,349 allegations is to not uncritically believe either side." While again I can 3346 01:02:49,349 --> 01:02:49,359 believe either side." While again I can 3347 01:02:49,359 --> 01:02:51,109 believe either side." While again I can understand where just a robot is coming 3348 01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:51,119 understand where just a robot is coming 3349 01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:52,549 understand where just a robot is coming from when he says we shouldn't 3350 01:02:52,549 --> 01:02:52,559 from when he says we shouldn't 3351 01:02:52,559 --> 01:02:54,630 from when he says we shouldn't immediately take birdie at his word. He 3352 01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:54,640 immediately take birdie at his word. He 3353 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,630 immediately take birdie at his word. He is very clearly doing the exact same 3354 01:02:56,630 --> 01:02:56,640 is very clearly doing the exact same 3355 01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,270 is very clearly doing the exact same thing but with Cine Bear instead. He 3356 01:02:59,270 --> 01:02:59,280 thing but with Cine Bear instead. He 3357 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:00,549 thing but with Cine Bear instead. He doesn't want people to believe the 3358 01:03:00,549 --> 01:03:00,559 doesn't want people to believe the 3359 01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:02,710 doesn't want people to believe the allegations without doing the research. 3360 01:03:02,710 --> 01:03:02,720 allegations without doing the research. 3361 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,309 allegations without doing the research. But he appears to have believed Cine 3362 01:03:04,309 --> 01:03:04,319 But he appears to have believed Cine 3363 01:03:04,319 --> 01:03:06,230 But he appears to have believed Cine Bear's defense without doing his own 3364 01:03:06,230 --> 01:03:06,240 Bear's defense without doing his own 3365 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,150 Bear's defense without doing his own research. And this led to the creation 3366 01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:08,160 research. And this led to the creation 3367 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,150 research. And this led to the creation of a video that essentially makes a 3368 01:03:10,150 --> 01:03:10,160 of a video that essentially makes a 3369 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,710 of a video that essentially makes a mockery of serious allegations. 3370 01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:12,720 mockery of serious allegations. 3371 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,870 mockery of serious allegations. Ultimately this whole ordeal did not end 3372 01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:14,880 Ultimately this whole ordeal did not end 3373 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,430 Ultimately this whole ordeal did not end well for Just a Robot. Over the next few 3374 01:03:17,430 --> 01:03:17,440 well for Just a Robot. Over the next few 3375 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,829 well for Just a Robot. Over the next few weeks, he was brutally lambasted over 3376 01:03:19,829 --> 01:03:19,839 weeks, he was brutally lambasted over 3377 01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:22,069 weeks, he was brutally lambasted over and over for this video and his flimsy 3378 01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:22,079 and over for this video and his flimsy 3379 01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:24,150 and over for this video and his flimsy justifications for it. And people also 3380 01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:24,160 justifications for it. And people also 3381 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,390 justifications for it. And people also began to look into his past, going so 3382 01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:26,400 began to look into his past, going so 3383 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,549 began to look into his past, going so far as to levy various allegations of 3384 01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:28,559 far as to levy various allegations of 3385 01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:30,789 far as to levy various allegations of misconduct against him. He would 3386 01:03:30,789 --> 01:03:30,799 misconduct against him. He would 3387 01:03:30,799 --> 01:03:32,470 misconduct against him. He would eventually respond to everything in 3388 01:03:32,470 --> 01:03:32,480 eventually respond to everything in 3389 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,630 eventually respond to everything in January of this year, including giving 3390 01:03:34,630 --> 01:03:34,640 January of this year, including giving 3391 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,710 January of this year, including giving more of an in-depth explanation on why 3392 01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:36,720 more of an in-depth explanation on why 3393 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,630 more of an in-depth explanation on why he embroiled himself in the Cine Bear 3394 01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:38,640 he embroiled himself in the Cine Bear 3395 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,710 he embroiled himself in the Cine Bear situation in the first place, as well as 3396 01:03:40,710 --> 01:03:40,720 situation in the first place, as well as 3397 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,710 situation in the first place, as well as responding to the fart fetish 3398 01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:42,720 responding to the fart fetish 3399 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,109 responding to the fart fetish allegations and the Jaden Animations 3400 01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:45,119 allegations and the Jaden Animations 3401 01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:47,829 allegations and the Jaden Animations allegations. And no, I'm not joking 3402 01:03:47,829 --> 01:03:47,839 allegations. And no, I'm not joking 3403 01:03:47,839 --> 01:03:49,670 allegations. And no, I'm not joking about either of those. You can check out 3404 01:03:49,670 --> 01:03:49,680 about either of those. You can check out 3405 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,990 about either of those. You can check out the video yourself if you want to, but I 3406 01:03:51,990 --> 01:03:52,000 the video yourself if you want to, but I 3407 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,670 the video yourself if you want to, but I won't be going any further into the Jar 3408 01:03:53,670 --> 01:03:53,680 won't be going any further into the Jar 3409 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,990 won't be going any further into the Jar saga. Overall, it's been long enough to 3410 01:03:55,990 --> 01:03:56,000 saga. Overall, it's been long enough to 3411 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,470 saga. Overall, it's been long enough to safely say Jory's career is basically 3412 01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:58,480 safely say Jory's career is basically 3413 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,710 safely say Jory's career is basically dead, and it seems like he'll be known 3414 01:04:00,710 --> 01:04:00,720 dead, and it seems like he'll be known 3415 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,630 dead, and it seems like he'll be known as the guy who defended an alleged 3416 01:04:02,630 --> 01:04:02,640 as the guy who defended an alleged 3417 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,109 as the guy who defended an alleged groomer and folded under literally zero 3418 01:04:05,109 --> 01:04:05,119 groomer and folded under literally zero 3419 01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:07,430 groomer and folded under literally zero pressure for basically the rest of his 3420 01:04:07,430 --> 01:04:07,440 pressure for basically the rest of his 3421 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,990 pressure for basically the rest of his life. 3422 01:04:09,990 --> 01:04:10,000 life. 3423 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,230 life. Witnessing the complete obliteration of 3424 01:04:12,230 --> 01:04:12,240 Witnessing the complete obliteration of 3425 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,549 Witnessing the complete obliteration of Jar's video defending her, as well as 3426 01:04:14,549 --> 01:04:14,559 Jar's video defending her, as well as 3427 01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:17,029 Jar's video defending her, as well as the dissection of her own defense video 3428 01:04:17,029 --> 01:04:17,039 the dissection of her own defense video 3429 01:04:17,039 --> 01:04:18,870 the dissection of her own defense video seemingly had a strong impact on 3430 01:04:18,870 --> 01:04:18,880 seemingly had a strong impact on 3431 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,750 seemingly had a strong impact on Cinebear 03. As just a few days after 3432 01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:21,760 Cinebear 03. As just a few days after 3433 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,710 Cinebear 03. As just a few days after Jar's video went up on October 17th, 3434 01:04:24,710 --> 01:04:24,720 Jar's video went up on October 17th, 3435 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,349 Jar's video went up on October 17th, 2024, Cinebear would delete her second 3436 01:04:27,349 --> 01:04:27,359 2024, Cinebear would delete her second 3437 01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:29,589 2024, Cinebear would delete her second response video and post to her community 3438 01:04:29,589 --> 01:04:29,599 response video and post to her community 3439 01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:31,829 response video and post to her community tab explaining her reasoning in doing 3440 01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:31,839 tab explaining her reasoning in doing 3441 01:04:31,839 --> 01:04:34,630 tab explaining her reasoning in doing so. According to her, she had acted too 3442 01:04:34,630 --> 01:04:34,640 so. According to her, she had acted too 3443 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,029 so. According to her, she had acted too quickly and her emotions had led her to 3444 01:04:37,029 --> 01:04:37,039 quickly and her emotions had led her to 3445 01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:39,430 quickly and her emotions had led her to focus her energy on being angry at the 3446 01:04:39,430 --> 01:04:39,440 focus her energy on being angry at the 3447 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,190 focus her energy on being angry at the people who had hurt her instead of 3448 01:04:41,190 --> 01:04:41,200 people who had hurt her instead of 3449 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,349 people who had hurt her instead of focusing on her own actions. She once 3450 01:04:43,349 --> 01:04:43,359 focusing on her own actions. She once 3451 01:04:43,359 --> 01:04:44,870 focusing on her own actions. She once again states that she would be going 3452 01:04:44,870 --> 01:04:44,880 again states that she would be going 3453 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,870 again states that she would be going into therapy and that she would not be 3454 01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:46,880 into therapy and that she would not be 3455 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,950 into therapy and that she would not be returning to her platform. and she 3456 01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:48,960 returning to her platform. and she 3457 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,109 returning to her platform. and she claims she was done blaming other people 3458 01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:51,119 claims she was done blaming other people 3459 01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:53,670 claims she was done blaming other people for her situation. The comments under 3460 01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:53,680 for her situation. The comments under 3461 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,150 for her situation. The comments under this post are, as is to be expected by 3462 01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:56,160 this post are, as is to be expected by 3463 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,710 this post are, as is to be expected by this point, almost unanimously negative, 3464 01:04:58,710 --> 01:04:58,720 this point, almost unanimously negative, 3465 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,470 this point, almost unanimously negative, with many claiming that Cinebear's 3466 01:05:00,470 --> 01:05:00,480 with many claiming that Cinebear's 3467 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,710 with many claiming that Cinebear's deplorable behaviors and her continual 3468 01:05:02,710 --> 01:05:02,720 deplorable behaviors and her continual 3469 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,630 deplorable behaviors and her continual attempts at defending herself, even 3470 01:05:04,630 --> 01:05:04,640 attempts at defending herself, even 3471 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,390 attempts at defending herself, even after admitting what she had done was 3472 01:05:06,390 --> 01:05:06,400 after admitting what she had done was 3473 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,150 after admitting what she had done was wrong was something that could never be 3474 01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:08,160 wrong was something that could never be 3475 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,270 wrong was something that could never be forgiven. For about a month, Cinebear 03 3476 01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:11,280 forgiven. For about a month, Cinebear 03 3477 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,349 forgiven. For about a month, Cinebear 03 would indeed continue to be silent, 3478 01:05:13,349 --> 01:05:13,359 would indeed continue to be silent, 3479 01:05:13,359 --> 01:05:15,270 would indeed continue to be silent, seemingly not touching her channel or 3480 01:05:15,270 --> 01:05:15,280 seemingly not touching her channel or 3481 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,910 seemingly not touching her channel or any of her social media pages. However, 3482 01:05:17,910 --> 01:05:17,920 any of her social media pages. However, 3483 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,230 any of her social media pages. However, about a month later, this would change 3484 01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:20,240 about a month later, this would change 3485 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,710 about a month later, this would change as out of nowhere, the Cinebear 03 3486 01:05:22,710 --> 01:05:22,720 as out of nowhere, the Cinebear 03 3487 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,549 as out of nowhere, the Cinebear 03 channel would see the upload of a new 3488 01:05:24,549 --> 01:05:24,559 channel would see the upload of a new 3489 01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:27,910 channel would see the upload of a new video titled Where Is My Cat? But in 3490 01:05:27,910 --> 01:05:27,920 video titled Where Is My Cat? But in 3491 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,750 video titled Where Is My Cat? But in order for us to understand this video, 3492 01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:29,760 order for us to understand this video, 3493 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,829 order for us to understand this video, we're going to have to rewind a bit. On 3494 01:05:31,829 --> 01:05:31,839 we're going to have to rewind a bit. On 3495 01:05:31,839 --> 01:05:35,029 we're going to have to rewind a bit. On October 19th, 2024, which for timeline 3496 01:05:35,029 --> 01:05:35,039 October 19th, 2024, which for timeline 3497 01:05:35,039 --> 01:05:37,190 October 19th, 2024, which for timeline purposes is right after Cine Bear took 3498 01:05:37,190 --> 01:05:37,200 purposes is right after Cine Bear took 3499 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,950 purposes is right after Cine Bear took down her second response video and 3500 01:05:38,950 --> 01:05:38,960 down her second response video and 3501 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,029 down her second response video and posted her final apology on her 3502 01:05:41,029 --> 01:05:41,039 posted her final apology on her 3503 01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:43,190 posted her final apology on her community tab, Birdie had claimed on 3504 01:05:43,190 --> 01:05:43,200 community tab, Birdie had claimed on 3505 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,589 community tab, Birdie had claimed on Twitter that Ciney Bear had stolen his 3506 01:05:45,589 --> 01:05:45,599 Twitter that Ciney Bear had stolen his 3507 01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:48,630 Twitter that Ciney Bear had stolen his cat Scorp from him and insinuated that 3508 01:05:48,630 --> 01:05:48,640 cat Scorp from him and insinuated that 3509 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,950 cat Scorp from him and insinuated that she was mistreating and neglecting the 3510 01:05:50,950 --> 01:05:50,960 she was mistreating and neglecting the 3511 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,029 she was mistreating and neglecting the cats they owned while living together. 3512 01:05:53,029 --> 01:05:53,039 cats they owned while living together. 3513 01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:55,109 cats they owned while living together. He also claimed that he had entered 3514 01:05:55,109 --> 01:05:55,119 He also claimed that he had entered 3515 01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:57,670 He also claimed that he had entered Cinebear 03's apartment while she was at 3516 01:05:57,670 --> 01:05:57,680 Cinebear 03's apartment while she was at 3517 01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,990 Cinebear 03's apartment while she was at work and noticed that it was very dirty, 3518 01:05:59,990 --> 01:06:00,000 work and noticed that it was very dirty, 3519 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,150 work and noticed that it was very dirty, which he used to further imply that Cine 3520 01:06:02,150 --> 01:06:02,160 which he used to further imply that Cine 3521 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,230 which he used to further imply that Cine Bear was abusing their other cat, 3522 01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:04,240 Bear was abusing their other cat, 3523 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,549 Bear was abusing their other cat, Stupid, whom he had left with her when 3524 01:06:06,549 --> 01:06:06,559 Stupid, whom he had left with her when 3525 01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:09,109 Stupid, whom he had left with her when moving out. However, in early November, 3526 01:06:09,109 --> 01:06:09,119 moving out. However, in early November, 3527 01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:10,470 moving out. However, in early November, Cinebear would upload the 3528 01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:10,480 Cinebear would upload the 3529 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,950 Cinebear would upload the affforementioned video, Where is My Cat? 3530 01:06:12,950 --> 01:06:12,960 affforementioned video, Where is My Cat? 3531 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,789 affforementioned video, Where is My Cat? claiming that Birdie was the one who had 3532 01:06:14,789 --> 01:06:14,799 claiming that Birdie was the one who had 3533 01:06:14,799 --> 01:06:16,710 claiming that Birdie was the one who had stolen Squirtp and that the cat was 3534 01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:16,720 stolen Squirtp and that the cat was 3535 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,029 stolen Squirtp and that the cat was being held by one of Bernie's friends, 3536 01:06:19,029 --> 01:06:19,039 being held by one of Bernie's friends, 3537 01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:21,990 being held by one of Bernie's friends, who Cinebear refers to as Izzy. Cine 3538 01:06:21,990 --> 01:06:22,000 who Cinebear refers to as Izzy. Cine 3539 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,150 who Cinebear refers to as Izzy. Cine Bear also claimed that Birdie was unfit 3540 01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:24,160 Bear also claimed that Birdie was unfit 3541 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,630 Bear also claimed that Birdie was unfit to take care of any animals because he 3542 01:06:26,630 --> 01:06:26,640 to take care of any animals because he 3543 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,789 to take care of any animals because he couldn't even take care of himself, two 3544 01:06:28,789 --> 01:06:28,799 couldn't even take care of himself, two 3545 01:06:28,799 --> 01:06:30,630 couldn't even take care of himself, two things he had apparently demonstrated 3546 01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:30,640 things he had apparently demonstrated 3547 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,470 things he had apparently demonstrated while they were living together. She 3548 01:06:32,470 --> 01:06:32,480 while they were living together. She 3549 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,710 while they were living together. She cites various mental and physical 3550 01:06:34,710 --> 01:06:34,720 cites various mental and physical 3551 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,710 cites various mental and physical disabilities Bernie had been claiming to 3552 01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:36,720 disabilities Bernie had been claiming to 3553 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,190 disabilities Bernie had been claiming to suffer from as evidence of this, as well 3554 01:06:39,190 --> 01:06:39,200 suffer from as evidence of this, as well 3555 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,029 suffer from as evidence of this, as well as the fact that he had apparently used 3556 01:06:41,029 --> 01:06:41,039 as the fact that he had apparently used 3557 01:06:41,039 --> 01:06:43,190 as the fact that he had apparently used these excuses as to why he didn't take 3558 01:06:43,190 --> 01:06:43,200 these excuses as to why he didn't take 3559 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:44,789 these excuses as to why he didn't take care of the cats back when they were 3560 01:06:44,789 --> 01:06:44,799 care of the cats back when they were 3561 01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:47,270 care of the cats back when they were living together. According to Cinebear, 3562 01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:47,280 living together. According to Cinebear, 3563 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,150 living together. According to Cinebear, she sent Izzy a legal notice to force 3564 01:06:50,150 --> 01:06:50,160 she sent Izzy a legal notice to force 3565 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,190 she sent Izzy a legal notice to force them to return her cat, but to no avail. 3566 01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:53,200 them to return her cat, but to no avail. 3567 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,430 them to return her cat, but to no avail. She also included within the video a 3568 01:06:55,430 --> 01:06:55,440 She also included within the video a 3569 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,829 She also included within the video a recording of her confronting Izzy, in 3570 01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:57,839 recording of her confronting Izzy, in 3571 01:06:57,839 --> 01:06:59,829 recording of her confronting Izzy, in which Izzy can be heard claiming that 3572 01:06:59,829 --> 01:06:59,839 which Izzy can be heard claiming that 3573 01:06:59,839 --> 01:07:02,150 which Izzy can be heard claiming that Squirtp is her cat now and that Cine 3574 01:07:02,150 --> 01:07:02,160 Squirtp is her cat now and that Cine 3575 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,390 Squirtp is her cat now and that Cine Bear had no legal right to her because 3576 01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:04,400 Bear had no legal right to her because 3577 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,789 Bear had no legal right to her because she quote bought the cat for Birdie, 3578 01:07:06,789 --> 01:07:06,799 she quote bought the cat for Birdie, 3579 01:07:06,799 --> 01:07:08,870 she quote bought the cat for Birdie, meaning that Birdie should supposedly 3580 01:07:08,870 --> 01:07:08,880 meaning that Birdie should supposedly 3581 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,029 meaning that Birdie should supposedly have legal ownership of Scorp despite 3582 01:07:11,029 --> 01:07:11,039 have legal ownership of Scorp despite 3583 01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:13,430 have legal ownership of Scorp despite not being the one who adopted her. A few 3584 01:07:13,430 --> 01:07:13,440 not being the one who adopted her. A few 3585 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,349 not being the one who adopted her. A few days after the upload of this video, 3586 01:07:15,349 --> 01:07:15,359 days after the upload of this video, 3587 01:07:15,359 --> 01:07:18,309 days after the upload of this video, someone going by Puppy Crayon Box, who 3588 01:07:18,309 --> 01:07:18,319 someone going by Puppy Crayon Box, who 3589 01:07:18,319 --> 01:07:20,390 someone going by Puppy Crayon Box, who claimed to be one of Cinebear 03's real 3590 01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:20,400 claimed to be one of Cinebear 03's real 3591 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,230 claimed to be one of Cinebear 03's real life friends, would begin tweeting about 3592 01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:22,240 life friends, would begin tweeting about 3593 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,789 life friends, would begin tweeting about the situation, stating that Cinebear, 3594 01:07:24,789 --> 01:07:24,799 the situation, stating that Cinebear, 3595 01:07:24,799 --> 01:07:26,950 the situation, stating that Cinebear, Izzy, and a few others who knew the both 3596 01:07:26,950 --> 01:07:26,960 Izzy, and a few others who knew the both 3597 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,870 Izzy, and a few others who knew the both of them had finally been able to sit 3598 01:07:28,870 --> 01:07:28,880 of them had finally been able to sit 3599 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,950 of them had finally been able to sit down and have an actual conversation 3600 01:07:30,950 --> 01:07:30,960 down and have an actual conversation 3601 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,430 down and have an actual conversation about how to move on in this situation 3602 01:07:33,430 --> 01:07:33,440 about how to move on in this situation 3603 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,430 about how to move on in this situation instead of, you know, making Twitter 3604 01:07:35,430 --> 01:07:35,440 instead of, you know, making Twitter 3605 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,029 instead of, you know, making Twitter threads and call out videos about each 3606 01:07:37,029 --> 01:07:37,039 threads and call out videos about each 3607 01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:38,789 threads and call out videos about each other on the internet as if they weren't 3608 01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:38,799 other on the internet as if they weren't 3609 01:07:38,799 --> 01:07:41,029 other on the internet as if they weren't deciding the fate of a literal real life 3610 01:07:41,029 --> 01:07:41,039 deciding the fate of a literal real life 3611 01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:43,510 deciding the fate of a literal real life animal. As a result of this discussion, 3612 01:07:43,510 --> 01:07:43,520 animal. As a result of this discussion, 3613 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,349 animal. As a result of this discussion, it seems as though it was decided that 3614 01:07:45,349 --> 01:07:45,359 it seems as though it was decided that 3615 01:07:45,359 --> 01:07:47,430 it seems as though it was decided that Ciney Bear would potentially take legal 3616 01:07:47,430 --> 01:07:47,440 Ciney Bear would potentially take legal 3617 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,589 Ciney Bear would potentially take legal action to ensure that Scorp was returned 3618 01:07:49,589 --> 01:07:49,599 action to ensure that Scorp was returned 3619 01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:51,670 action to ensure that Scorp was returned to her. But regardless of whether or not 3620 01:07:51,670 --> 01:07:51,680 to her. But regardless of whether or not 3621 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,069 to her. But regardless of whether or not she did, it was decided Birdie should 3622 01:07:54,069 --> 01:07:54,079 she did, it was decided Birdie should 3623 01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:56,309 she did, it was decided Birdie should not be the one to receive Scorp unless 3624 01:07:56,309 --> 01:07:56,319 not be the one to receive Scorp unless 3625 01:07:56,319 --> 01:07:58,230 not be the one to receive Scorp unless he could somehow prove that he was 3626 01:07:58,230 --> 01:07:58,240 he could somehow prove that he was 3627 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,710 he could somehow prove that he was financially, emotionally, and mentally 3628 01:08:00,710 --> 01:08:00,720 financially, emotionally, and mentally 3629 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,870 financially, emotionally, and mentally stable enough to care for her. In the 3630 01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:02,880 stable enough to care for her. In the 3631 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,789 stable enough to care for her. In the event that Cinebear did not take legal 3632 01:08:04,789 --> 01:08:04,799 event that Cinebear did not take legal 3633 01:08:04,799 --> 01:08:06,950 event that Cinebear did not take legal action and Birdie was not fit to care 3634 01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:06,960 action and Birdie was not fit to care 3635 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,870 action and Birdie was not fit to care for Squirp, it was decided that she 3636 01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:08,880 for Squirp, it was decided that she 3637 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,430 for Squirp, it was decided that she would be renamed and rehomed. Though 3638 01:08:11,430 --> 01:08:11,440 would be renamed and rehomed. Though 3639 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,990 would be renamed and rehomed. Though this situation was unclear for a pretty 3640 01:08:13,990 --> 01:08:14,000 this situation was unclear for a pretty 3641 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:15,990 this situation was unclear for a pretty significant period of time, it seems 3642 01:08:15,990 --> 01:08:16,000 significant period of time, it seems 3643 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,390 significant period of time, it seems that as of May of this year, both of the 3644 01:08:18,390 --> 01:08:18,400 that as of May of this year, both of the 3645 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,349 that as of May of this year, both of the cats had been returned to Cinebear 03. 3646 01:08:21,349 --> 01:08:21,359 cats had been returned to Cinebear 03. 3647 01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:25,030 cats had been returned to Cinebear 03. Izzy, who goes by Queen XIV on Twitter, 3648 01:08:25,030 --> 01:08:25,040 Izzy, who goes by Queen XIV on Twitter, 3649 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,269 Izzy, who goes by Queen XIV on Twitter, was apparently temporarily granted 3650 01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:27,279 was apparently temporarily granted 3651 01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:29,990 was apparently temporarily granted ownership of Scorp by Cinebear following 3652 01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:30,000 ownership of Scorp by Cinebear following 3653 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,309 ownership of Scorp by Cinebear following the events recounted in the Where is My 3654 01:08:32,309 --> 01:08:32,319 the events recounted in the Where is My 3655 01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:34,950 the events recounted in the Where is My Cat video. However, in a recent document 3656 01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:34,960 Cat video. However, in a recent document 3657 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,789 Cat video. However, in a recent document she made describing what occurred 3658 01:08:36,789 --> 01:08:36,799 she made describing what occurred 3659 01:08:36,799 --> 01:08:39,189 she made describing what occurred between her and Birdie in the time since 3660 01:08:39,189 --> 01:08:39,199 between her and Birdie in the time since 3661 01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:41,510 between her and Birdie in the time since the initial drama started, Izzy claims 3662 01:08:41,510 --> 01:08:41,520 the initial drama started, Izzy claims 3663 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,309 the initial drama started, Izzy claims she returned Scorp to Cinebear on April 3664 01:08:44,309 --> 01:08:44,319 she returned Scorp to Cinebear on April 3665 01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:46,630 she returned Scorp to Cinebear on April 28th of this year. Again, I'm not 3666 01:08:46,630 --> 01:08:46,640 28th of this year. Again, I'm not 3667 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,550 28th of this year. Again, I'm not involved in this situation, and I don't 3668 01:08:48,550 --> 01:08:48,560 involved in this situation, and I don't 3669 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:49,990 involved in this situation, and I don't know how much to trust these people's 3670 01:08:49,990 --> 01:08:50,000 know how much to trust these people's 3671 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,309 know how much to trust these people's words. So, all I can really say is that 3672 01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:52,319 words. So, all I can really say is that 3673 01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:53,990 words. So, all I can really say is that I hope the cats are being treated well 3674 01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:54,000 I hope the cats are being treated well 3675 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,669 I hope the cats are being treated well because they obviously have nothing to 3676 01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:55,679 because they obviously have nothing to 3677 01:08:55,679 --> 01:08:58,550 because they obviously have nothing to do with this terminally online drama. 3678 01:08:58,550 --> 01:08:58,560 do with this terminally online drama. 3679 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,550 do with this terminally online drama. However, ironically enough, despite 3680 01:09:00,550 --> 01:09:00,560 However, ironically enough, despite 3681 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,470 However, ironically enough, despite having nothing to do with it, it was the 3682 01:09:02,470 --> 01:09:02,480 having nothing to do with it, it was the 3683 01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:04,309 having nothing to do with it, it was the way that these cats situation was 3684 01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:04,319 way that these cats situation was 3685 01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:06,789 way that these cats situation was handled that contributed to a massive 3686 01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:06,799 handled that contributed to a massive 3687 01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:08,950 handled that contributed to a massive crash landing on the end of someone who 3688 01:09:08,950 --> 01:09:08,960 crash landing on the end of someone who 3689 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,189 crash landing on the end of someone who had been precariously perched to top the 3690 01:09:11,189 --> 01:09:11,199 had been precariously perched to top the 3691 01:09:11,199 --> 01:09:13,990 had been precariously perched to top the good graces of the internet for a while. 3692 01:09:13,990 --> 01:09:14,000 good graces of the internet for a while. 3693 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,510 good graces of the internet for a while. It's time we discuss Birdie's dive bomb. 3694 01:09:17,510 --> 01:09:17,520 It's time we discuss Birdie's dive bomb. 3695 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,269 It's time we discuss Birdie's dive bomb. Although the general sentiment on the 3696 01:09:19,269 --> 01:09:19,279 Although the general sentiment on the 3697 01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:21,269 Although the general sentiment on the internet for the preceding two months 3698 01:09:21,269 --> 01:09:21,279 internet for the preceding two months 3699 01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:23,590 internet for the preceding two months had been very pro birdie, likely due to 3700 01:09:23,590 --> 01:09:23,600 had been very pro birdie, likely due to 3701 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,590 had been very pro birdie, likely due to the way that he had been able to portray 3702 01:09:25,590 --> 01:09:25,600 the way that he had been able to portray 3703 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,590 the way that he had been able to portray himself as one of the quote unquote 3704 01:09:27,590 --> 01:09:27,600 himself as one of the quote unquote 3705 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,229 himself as one of the quote unquote victims of Cinebear 03, who was being 3706 01:09:30,229 --> 01:09:30,239 victims of Cinebear 03, who was being 3707 01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:32,550 victims of Cinebear 03, who was being almost universally condemned, the Scorp 3708 01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:32,560 almost universally condemned, the Scorp 3709 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,030 almost universally condemned, the Scorp situation and Bird's mishandling of it 3710 01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:35,040 situation and Bird's mishandling of it 3711 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,709 situation and Bird's mishandling of it managed to swing the eyeire of the 3712 01:09:36,709 --> 01:09:36,719 managed to swing the eyeire of the 3713 01:09:36,719 --> 01:09:38,789 managed to swing the eyeire of the internet back in his direction. As I 3714 01:09:38,789 --> 01:09:38,799 internet back in his direction. As I 3715 01:09:38,799 --> 01:09:40,789 internet back in his direction. As I mentioned earlier in this video, Birdie 3716 01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:40,799 mentioned earlier in this video, Birdie 3717 01:09:40,799 --> 01:09:43,189 mentioned earlier in this video, Birdie is no stranger to online controversy. 3718 01:09:43,189 --> 01:09:43,199 is no stranger to online controversy. 3719 01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:44,950 is no stranger to online controversy. Almost the entire time that he has been 3720 01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:44,960 Almost the entire time that he has been 3721 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,709 Almost the entire time that he has been posting to the internet, he has been 3722 01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:46,719 posting to the internet, he has been 3723 01:09:46,719 --> 01:09:48,789 posting to the internet, he has been seen as a controversial figure for one 3724 01:09:48,789 --> 01:09:48,799 seen as a controversial figure for one 3725 01:09:48,799 --> 01:09:50,789 seen as a controversial figure for one reason or another. As such, in 3726 01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:50,799 reason or another. As such, in 3727 01:09:50,799 --> 01:09:52,950 reason or another. As such, in retrospect, it seems almost inevitable 3728 01:09:52,950 --> 01:09:52,960 retrospect, it seems almost inevitable 3729 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,430 retrospect, it seems almost inevitable that his newly found positive reputation 3730 01:09:55,430 --> 01:09:55,440 that his newly found positive reputation 3731 01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:57,189 that his newly found positive reputation would eventually be tarnished once 3732 01:09:57,189 --> 01:09:57,199 would eventually be tarnished once 3733 01:09:57,199 --> 01:09:59,270 would eventually be tarnished once again, and this is exactly what happened 3734 01:09:59,270 --> 01:09:59,280 again, and this is exactly what happened 3735 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,590 again, and this is exactly what happened in the aftermath of the cat situation. 3736 01:10:01,590 --> 01:10:01,600 in the aftermath of the cat situation. 3737 01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,910 in the aftermath of the cat situation. Not only did many online who had never 3738 01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:03,920 Not only did many online who had never 3739 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,590 Not only did many online who had never even heard of Birdie before this 3740 01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:05,600 even heard of Birdie before this 3741 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,669 even heard of Birdie before this situation start to catch up on some of 3742 01:10:07,669 --> 01:10:07,679 situation start to catch up on some of 3743 01:10:07,679 --> 01:10:09,750 situation start to catch up on some of the things he had done in the past, such 3744 01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:09,760 the things he had done in the past, such 3745 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,229 the things he had done in the past, such as allegations of misconduct with his 3746 01:10:12,229 --> 01:10:12,239 as allegations of misconduct with his 3747 01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:15,350 as allegations of misconduct with his pet ferret at some point years ago. But 3748 01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:15,360 pet ferret at some point years ago. But 3749 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,590 pet ferret at some point years ago. But people who had already known of his past 3750 01:10:17,590 --> 01:10:17,600 people who had already known of his past 3751 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,830 people who had already known of his past also began to take a closer look at 3752 01:10:19,830 --> 01:10:19,840 also began to take a closer look at 3753 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,590 also began to take a closer look at things that many had previously 3754 01:10:21,590 --> 01:10:21,600 things that many had previously 3755 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,669 things that many had previously dismissed as having been explained by 3756 01:10:23,669 --> 01:10:23,679 dismissed as having been explained by 3757 01:10:23,679 --> 01:10:26,149 dismissed as having been explained by Birdie in the video he produced in April 3758 01:10:26,149 --> 01:10:26,159 Birdie in the video he produced in April 3759 01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:28,790 Birdie in the video he produced in April of 2024 when he returned to the internet 3760 01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:28,800 of 2024 when he returned to the internet 3761 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,270 of 2024 when he returned to the internet after a long hiatus. The video was 3762 01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:31,280 after a long hiatus. The video was 3763 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,510 after a long hiatus. The video was received very positively at the time 3764 01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:33,520 received very positively at the time 3765 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,189 received very positively at the time with many feeling as though they had 3766 01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:35,199 with many feeling as though they had 3767 01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:37,350 with many feeling as though they had judged Birdie too harshly for his past 3768 01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:37,360 judged Birdie too harshly for his past 3769 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,590 judged Birdie too harshly for his past actions as he claimed that many of the 3770 01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:39,600 actions as he claimed that many of the 3771 01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,350 actions as he claimed that many of the things he had done had been the result 3772 01:10:41,350 --> 01:10:41,360 things he had done had been the result 3773 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,990 things he had done had been the result of trauma, mental illness, or of him 3774 01:10:43,990 --> 01:10:44,000 of trauma, mental illness, or of him 3775 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,830 of trauma, mental illness, or of him being groomed by multiple different 3776 01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:45,840 being groomed by multiple different 3777 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,910 being groomed by multiple different people. However, now that people were 3778 01:10:47,910 --> 01:10:47,920 people. However, now that people were 3779 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,750 people. However, now that people were viewing him and his actions through a 3780 01:10:49,750 --> 01:10:49,760 viewing him and his actions through a 3781 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,149 viewing him and his actions through a less charitable lens, some of them began 3782 01:10:52,149 --> 01:10:52,159 less charitable lens, some of them began 3783 01:10:52,159 --> 01:10:54,709 less charitable lens, some of them began to poke holes in these explanations. 3784 01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:54,719 to poke holes in these explanations. 3785 01:10:54,719 --> 01:10:57,030 to poke holes in these explanations. Furthermore, all new allegations have 3786 01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:57,040 Furthermore, all new allegations have 3787 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,110 Furthermore, all new allegations have since surfaced as well, with some going 3788 01:10:59,110 --> 01:10:59,120 since surfaced as well, with some going 3789 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,110 since surfaced as well, with some going so far as to claim that Birdie himself 3790 01:11:01,110 --> 01:11:01,120 so far as to claim that Birdie himself 3791 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,709 so far as to claim that Birdie himself is a groomer who has spoken 3792 01:11:02,709 --> 01:11:02,719 is a groomer who has spoken 3793 01:11:02,719 --> 01:11:04,630 is a groomer who has spoken inappropriately with minors behind the 3794 01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:04,640 inappropriately with minors behind the 3795 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,790 inappropriately with minors behind the scenes. I won't be going extremely 3796 01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:06,800 scenes. I won't be going extremely 3797 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,630 scenes. I won't be going extremely indepth on the allegations against 3798 01:11:08,630 --> 01:11:08,640 indepth on the allegations against 3799 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,550 indepth on the allegations against Birdie in particular, because I didn't 3800 01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:10,560 Birdie in particular, because I didn't 3801 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,630 Birdie in particular, because I didn't do exhaustive research on what they are 3802 01:11:12,630 --> 01:11:12,640 do exhaustive research on what they are 3803 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,870 do exhaustive research on what they are or what the evidence backing them is. 3804 01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:14,880 or what the evidence backing them is. 3805 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,950 or what the evidence backing them is. The one allegation I will be covering is 3806 01:11:16,950 --> 01:11:16,960 The one allegation I will be covering is 3807 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:18,790 The one allegation I will be covering is one that was levied against Birdie in 3808 01:11:18,790 --> 01:11:18,800 one that was levied against Birdie in 3809 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,590 one that was levied against Birdie in December of 2024 because it is directly 3810 01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:21,600 December of 2024 because it is directly 3811 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,830 December of 2024 because it is directly relevant to the storyline of this video. 3812 01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:23,840 relevant to the storyline of this video. 3813 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,830 relevant to the storyline of this video. This allegation claimed that Birdie had 3814 01:11:25,830 --> 01:11:25,840 This allegation claimed that Birdie had 3815 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,750 This allegation claimed that Birdie had been misappropriating the money he had 3816 01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:27,760 been misappropriating the money he had 3817 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,830 been misappropriating the money he had earned from his GoFundMe campaign. 3818 01:11:29,830 --> 01:11:29,840 earned from his GoFundMe campaign. 3819 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,910 earned from his GoFundMe campaign. Birdie claimed in his video and on the 3820 01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:31,920 Birdie claimed in his video and on the 3821 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,149 Birdie claimed in his video and on the GoFundMe website that he needed the 3822 01:11:34,149 --> 01:11:34,159 GoFundMe website that he needed the 3823 01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:36,950 GoFundMe website that he needed the $10,000 to apply for an apartment, pay 3824 01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:36,960 $10,000 to apply for an apartment, pay 3825 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,910 $10,000 to apply for an apartment, pay rent, get groceries, buy a plane ticket, 3826 01:11:39,910 --> 01:11:39,920 rent, get groceries, buy a plane ticket, 3827 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,070 rent, get groceries, buy a plane ticket, have his belongings shipped to him, get 3828 01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:42,080 have his belongings shipped to him, get 3829 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,910 have his belongings shipped to him, get supplies and food for the cat he was 3830 01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:43,920 supplies and food for the cat he was 3831 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,830 supplies and food for the cat he was planning on bringing with him, and keep 3832 01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:45,840 planning on bringing with him, and keep 3833 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,270 planning on bringing with him, and keep his prescriptions for his 3834 01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:47,280 his prescriptions for his 3835 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,990 his prescriptions for his anti-depressants and antiscychotics. 3836 01:11:49,990 --> 01:11:50,000 anti-depressants and antiscychotics. 3837 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,910 anti-depressants and antiscychotics. However, it would later be claimed on 3838 01:11:51,910 --> 01:11:51,920 However, it would later be claimed on 3839 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,310 However, it would later be claimed on Twitter by Izzy that when Birdie 3840 01:11:54,310 --> 01:11:54,320 Twitter by Izzy that when Birdie 3841 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,110 Twitter by Izzy that when Birdie received the funds from the GoFundMe in 3842 01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:57,120 received the funds from the GoFundMe in 3843 01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,910 received the funds from the GoFundMe in October of 2024, he had immediately 3844 01:11:59,910 --> 01:11:59,920 October of 2024, he had immediately 3845 01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:02,310 October of 2024, he had immediately started purchasing various quote unquote 3846 01:12:02,310 --> 01:12:02,320 started purchasing various quote unquote 3847 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,189 started purchasing various quote unquote pony packages, which I presume could 3848 01:12:05,189 --> 01:12:05,199 pony packages, which I presume could 3849 01:12:05,199 --> 01:12:07,350 pony packages, which I presume could only contain My Little Pony merchandise 3850 01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:07,360 only contain My Little Pony merchandise 3851 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,229 only contain My Little Pony merchandise based on their name using the money, all 3852 01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:10,239 based on their name using the money, all 3853 01:12:10,239 --> 01:12:12,149 based on their name using the money, all while complaining about supposedly 3854 01:12:12,149 --> 01:12:12,159 while complaining about supposedly 3855 01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:14,550 while complaining about supposedly starving to death while actually having 3856 01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:14,560 starving to death while actually having 3857 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,470 starving to death while actually having food in the fridge of wherever he was 3858 01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:16,480 food in the fridge of wherever he was 3859 01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:18,550 food in the fridge of wherever he was staying. Now, in the time since these 3860 01:12:18,550 --> 01:12:18,560 staying. Now, in the time since these 3861 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,790 staying. Now, in the time since these allegations were made, someone claiming 3862 01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:20,800 allegations were made, someone claiming 3863 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,510 allegations were made, someone claiming to be Birdie's quote unquote temporary 3864 01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:23,520 to be Birdie's quote unquote temporary 3865 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,390 to be Birdie's quote unquote temporary PR responded to the allegations of 3866 01:12:26,390 --> 01:12:26,400 PR responded to the allegations of 3867 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,950 PR responded to the allegations of misallocated funds by stating that the 3868 01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:28,960 misallocated funds by stating that the 3869 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,990 misallocated funds by stating that the money used to buy said pony packages was 3870 01:12:31,990 --> 01:12:32,000 money used to buy said pony packages was 3871 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,990 money used to buy said pony packages was actually from commissions Birdie had 3872 01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:34,000 actually from commissions Birdie had 3873 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,990 actually from commissions Birdie had completed while on the move, not the 3874 01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:36,000 completed while on the move, not the 3875 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,709 completed while on the move, not the GoFundMe proceeds. If this is true, that 3876 01:12:38,709 --> 01:12:38,719 GoFundMe proceeds. If this is true, that 3877 01:12:38,719 --> 01:12:40,470 GoFundMe proceeds. If this is true, that would obviously change the nature of the 3878 01:12:40,470 --> 01:12:40,480 would obviously change the nature of the 3879 01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:42,709 would obviously change the nature of the accusations, although many have wondered 3880 01:12:42,709 --> 01:12:42,719 accusations, although many have wondered 3881 01:12:42,719 --> 01:12:44,709 accusations, although many have wondered if it even makes it better at all. 3882 01:12:44,709 --> 01:12:44,719 if it even makes it better at all. 3883 01:12:44,719 --> 01:12:47,110 if it even makes it better at all. Because remember, Birdie was supposedly 3884 01:12:47,110 --> 01:12:47,120 Because remember, Birdie was supposedly 3885 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,350 Because remember, Birdie was supposedly in such dire straits that he needed to 3886 01:12:49,350 --> 01:12:49,360 in such dire straits that he needed to 3887 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,229 in such dire straits that he needed to raise $10,000 off the back of grooming 3888 01:12:52,229 --> 01:12:52,239 raise $10,000 off the back of grooming 3889 01:12:52,239 --> 01:12:54,950 raise $10,000 off the back of grooming allegations. If at any point after the 3890 01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:54,960 allegations. If at any point after the 3891 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,430 allegations. If at any point after the GoFundMe money paid out, Birdie was 3892 01:12:57,430 --> 01:12:57,440 GoFundMe money paid out, Birdie was 3893 01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:59,510 GoFundMe money paid out, Birdie was still buying My Little Pony merchandise, 3894 01:12:59,510 --> 01:12:59,520 still buying My Little Pony merchandise, 3895 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,590 still buying My Little Pony merchandise, one would have to wonder exactly how 3896 01:13:01,590 --> 01:13:01,600 one would have to wonder exactly how 3897 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,110 one would have to wonder exactly how much he needed the money in the first 3898 01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:03,120 much he needed the money in the first 3899 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,149 much he needed the money in the first place. But again, I was not personally 3900 01:13:06,149 --> 01:13:06,159 place. But again, I was not personally 3901 01:13:06,159 --> 01:13:08,229 place. But again, I was not personally involved and I don't know these people. 3902 01:13:08,229 --> 01:13:08,239 involved and I don't know these people. 3903 01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:10,149 involved and I don't know these people. I'm only going off of what's publicly 3904 01:13:10,149 --> 01:13:10,159 I'm only going off of what's publicly 3905 01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:11,750 I'm only going off of what's publicly available to me. If there's something 3906 01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:11,760 available to me. If there's something 3907 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,590 available to me. If there's something I'm missing, please feel free to let me 3908 01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:13,600 I'm missing, please feel free to let me 3909 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:14,950 I'm missing, please feel free to let me know in the comments and I'll try to 3910 01:13:14,950 --> 01:13:14,960 know in the comments and I'll try to 3911 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,110 know in the comments and I'll try to make a correction. Regardless, as of 3912 01:13:17,110 --> 01:13:17,120 make a correction. Regardless, as of 3913 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,110 make a correction. Regardless, as of this point in time, Birdie has evidently 3914 01:13:19,110 --> 01:13:19,120 this point in time, Birdie has evidently 3915 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,550 this point in time, Birdie has evidently become fed up with the negative 3916 01:13:20,550 --> 01:13:20,560 become fed up with the negative 3917 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,310 become fed up with the negative attention against him, and he actually 3918 01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:22,320 attention against him, and he actually 3919 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,390 attention against him, and he actually went silent back in November of last 3920 01:13:24,390 --> 01:13:24,400 went silent back in November of last 3921 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,950 went silent back in November of last year after making the following tweet. 3922 01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:26,960 year after making the following tweet. 3923 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,870 year after making the following tweet. Okay, I'm sick of being this week's hot, 3924 01:13:28,870 --> 01:13:28,880 Okay, I'm sick of being this week's hot, 3925 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,229 Okay, I'm sick of being this week's hot, juicy drama and having the 3926 01:13:30,229 --> 01:13:30,239 juicy drama and having the 3927 01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:32,229 juicy drama and having the dehumanization and demonization of 3928 01:13:32,229 --> 01:13:32,239 dehumanization and demonization of 3929 01:13:32,239 --> 01:13:34,709 dehumanization and demonization of myself so widely normalized again. 3930 01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:34,719 myself so widely normalized again. 3931 01:13:34,719 --> 01:13:36,550 myself so widely normalized again. People are scraping the bottom of the 3932 01:13:36,550 --> 01:13:36,560 People are scraping the bottom of the 3933 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,350 People are scraping the bottom of the barrel for rumors. I'm leaving for a 3934 01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:39,360 barrel for rumors. I'm leaving for a 3935 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,070 barrel for rumors. I'm leaving for a bit. Everyone get your together. This is 3936 01:13:42,070 --> 01:13:42,080 bit. Everyone get your together. This is 3937 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,070 bit. Everyone get your together. This is just like 2017. Time is a flat circle. 3938 01:13:46,070 --> 01:13:46,080 just like 2017. Time is a flat circle. 3939 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,669 just like 2017. Time is a flat circle. As can be seen by looking at the 3940 01:13:47,669 --> 01:13:47,679 As can be seen by looking at the 3941 01:13:47,679 --> 01:13:49,590 As can be seen by looking at the analytics of this tweet, it's accured 3942 01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:49,600 analytics of this tweet, it's accured 3943 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,709 analytics of this tweet, it's accured more than 2.6 million views, but boasts 3944 01:13:52,709 --> 01:13:52,719 more than 2.6 million views, but boasts 3945 01:13:52,719 --> 01:13:55,910 more than 2.6 million views, but boasts a poultry 2,000 likes. I think these 3946 01:13:55,910 --> 01:13:55,920 a poultry 2,000 likes. I think these 3947 01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,830 a poultry 2,000 likes. I think these numbers demonstrate just how far this 3948 01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:57,840 numbers demonstrate just how far this 3949 01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,910 numbers demonstrate just how far this situation has escalated, going beyond 3950 01:13:59,910 --> 01:13:59,920 situation has escalated, going beyond 3951 01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:01,510 situation has escalated, going beyond the normal communities that would be 3952 01:14:01,510 --> 01:14:01,520 the normal communities that would be 3953 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,830 the normal communities that would be engaging with it. And despite how the 3954 01:14:03,830 --> 01:14:03,840 engaging with it. And despite how the 3955 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,229 engaging with it. And despite how the drama was going initially, Birdie is now 3956 01:14:06,229 --> 01:14:06,239 drama was going initially, Birdie is now 3957 01:14:06,239 --> 01:14:08,390 drama was going initially, Birdie is now being exposed to more negative attention 3958 01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:08,400 being exposed to more negative attention 3959 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,070 being exposed to more negative attention than he probably ever would have 3960 01:14:10,070 --> 01:14:10,080 than he probably ever would have 3961 01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,550 than he probably ever would have beforehand. Regardless, with that being 3962 01:14:12,550 --> 01:14:12,560 beforehand. Regardless, with that being 3963 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,709 beforehand. Regardless, with that being said, we're actually nearing the end of 3964 01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:14,719 said, we're actually nearing the end of 3965 01:14:14,719 --> 01:14:16,950 said, we're actually nearing the end of this monolithic story. So, it's time to 3966 01:14:16,950 --> 01:14:16,960 this monolithic story. So, it's time to 3967 01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,270 this monolithic story. So, it's time to wrap up a few loose ends and get to my 3968 01:14:19,270 --> 01:14:19,280 wrap up a few loose ends and get to my 3969 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:23,189 wrap up a few loose ends and get to my conclusion. 3970 01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:23,199 3971 01:14:23,199 --> 01:14:25,030 With so much discussion of the side 3972 01:14:25,030 --> 01:14:25,040 With so much discussion of the side 3973 01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,030 With so much discussion of the side characters in this story, it might seem 3974 01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:27,040 characters in this story, it might seem 3975 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,790 characters in this story, it might seem as though I've forgotten the actual 3976 01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:28,800 as though I've forgotten the actual 3977 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,110 as though I've forgotten the actual focus of this video, and that's a fair 3978 01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:31,120 focus of this video, and that's a fair 3979 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,030 focus of this video, and that's a fair assumption. This video is supposed to be 3980 01:14:33,030 --> 01:14:33,040 assumption. This video is supposed to be 3981 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,669 assumption. This video is supposed to be about the career and downfall of Cineber 3982 01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:35,679 about the career and downfall of Cineber 3983 01:14:35,679 --> 01:14:37,750 about the career and downfall of Cineber 3, after all. But one of the most 3984 01:14:37,750 --> 01:14:37,760 3, after all. But one of the most 3985 01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,750 3, after all. But one of the most interesting parts of this situation, in 3986 01:14:39,750 --> 01:14:39,760 interesting parts of this situation, in 3987 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,310 interesting parts of this situation, in my opinion, is the sheer amount of side 3988 01:14:42,310 --> 01:14:42,320 my opinion, is the sheer amount of side 3989 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,870 my opinion, is the sheer amount of side plots and auxiliary players who spent 3990 01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:44,880 plots and auxiliary players who spent 3991 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,189 plots and auxiliary players who spent this entire time jostling to make the 3992 01:14:47,189 --> 01:14:47,199 this entire time jostling to make the 3993 01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:49,590 this entire time jostling to make the whole drama all about themselves. 3994 01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:49,600 whole drama all about themselves. 3995 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,590 whole drama all about themselves. Regardless, let's get back to Cinebear 3996 01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:51,600 Regardless, let's get back to Cinebear 3997 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,669 Regardless, let's get back to Cinebear herself because I do have one last 3998 01:14:53,669 --> 01:14:53,679 herself because I do have one last 3999 01:14:53,679 --> 01:14:55,669 herself because I do have one last update on what she's been up to amidst 4000 01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:55,679 update on what she's been up to amidst 4001 01:14:55,679 --> 01:14:58,149 update on what she's been up to amidst all this external drama. On December 4002 01:14:58,149 --> 01:14:58,159 all this external drama. On December 4003 01:14:58,159 --> 01:15:01,350 all this external drama. On December 10th, 2024, a tweet was posted by Puppy 4004 01:15:01,350 --> 01:15:01,360 10th, 2024, a tweet was posted by Puppy 4005 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,310 10th, 2024, a tweet was posted by Puppy Cranbox advertising a new Cinebear 03 4006 01:15:04,310 --> 01:15:04,320 Cranbox advertising a new Cinebear 03 4007 01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,390 Cranbox advertising a new Cinebear 03 Discord server where people can 4008 01:15:06,390 --> 01:15:06,400 Discord server where people can 4009 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,390 Discord server where people can apparently commission her to draw art 4010 01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:08,400 apparently commission her to draw art 4011 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,950 apparently commission her to draw art for them, but in a way that involves 4012 01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:10,960 for them, but in a way that involves 4013 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,350 for them, but in a way that involves minimal communication with her through 4014 01:15:13,350 --> 01:15:13,360 minimal communication with her through 4015 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:14,870 minimal communication with her through moderators. 4016 01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:14,880 moderators. 4017 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,189 moderators. Obviously, people quickly took issue 4018 01:15:17,189 --> 01:15:17,199 Obviously, people quickly took issue 4019 01:15:17,199 --> 01:15:19,270 Obviously, people quickly took issue with this given Cinebear's previous 4020 01:15:19,270 --> 01:15:19,280 with this given Cinebear's previous 4021 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,910 with this given Cinebear's previous habits over Discord. As far as I can 4022 01:15:21,910 --> 01:15:21,920 habits over Discord. As far as I can 4023 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,470 habits over Discord. As far as I can tell, the Discord server remains up, 4024 01:15:24,470 --> 01:15:24,480 tell, the Discord server remains up, 4025 01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:26,630 tell, the Discord server remains up, much to the dismay of many who believe 4026 01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:26,640 much to the dismay of many who believe 4027 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,470 much to the dismay of many who believe that Cine Bear should have no right to 4028 01:15:28,470 --> 01:15:28,480 that Cine Bear should have no right to 4029 01:15:28,480 --> 01:15:30,149 that Cine Bear should have no right to continue benefiting from her large 4030 01:15:30,149 --> 01:15:30,159 continue benefiting from her large 4031 01:15:30,159 --> 01:15:32,550 continue benefiting from her large platform. The next development is a bit 4032 01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:32,560 platform. The next development is a bit 4033 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,550 platform. The next development is a bit more of a positive one, though. On 4034 01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:34,560 more of a positive one, though. On 4035 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,350 more of a positive one, though. On January 12th, 2025, Laurel posted an 4036 01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:37,360 January 12th, 2025, Laurel posted an 4037 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,750 January 12th, 2025, Laurel posted an update on Eno, stating that he had just 4038 01:15:39,750 --> 01:15:39,760 update on Eno, stating that he had just 4039 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,390 update on Eno, stating that he had just turned 15 and was doing very well and 4040 01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:42,400 turned 15 and was doing very well and 4041 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,550 turned 15 and was doing very well and had lots of friends and support backing 4042 01:15:44,550 --> 01:15:44,560 had lots of friends and support backing 4043 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,229 had lots of friends and support backing him up. I know that doesn't really 4044 01:15:46,229 --> 01:15:46,239 him up. I know that doesn't really 4045 01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:47,910 him up. I know that doesn't really advance the story, but I wanted to 4046 01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:47,920 advance the story, but I wanted to 4047 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,669 advance the story, but I wanted to include it in case anyone was wondering 4048 01:15:49,669 --> 01:15:49,679 include it in case anyone was wondering 4049 01:15:49,679 --> 01:15:51,110 include it in case anyone was wondering what happened to him after this whole 4050 01:15:51,110 --> 01:15:51,120 what happened to him after this whole 4051 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,510 what happened to him after this whole drama went down. Also, in January, Just 4052 01:15:53,510 --> 01:15:53,520 drama went down. Also, in January, Just 4053 01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,510 drama went down. Also, in January, Just a Robot made his response video to 4054 01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:55,520 a Robot made his response video to 4055 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:56,950 a Robot made his response video to essentially everything people were 4056 01:15:56,950 --> 01:15:56,960 essentially everything people were 4057 01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,270 essentially everything people were saying about him online, which I already 4058 01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:59,280 saying about him online, which I already 4059 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:00,870 saying about him online, which I already addressed, so you can check that out if 4060 01:16:00,870 --> 01:16:00,880 addressed, so you can check that out if 4061 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,550 addressed, so you can check that out if you want to hear his side of the story. 4062 01:16:02,550 --> 01:16:02,560 you want to hear his side of the story. 4063 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:03,990 you want to hear his side of the story. I'll even include a link in the 4064 01:16:03,990 --> 01:16:04,000 I'll even include a link in the 4065 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,310 I'll even include a link in the description of this video because I'm 4066 01:16:06,310 --> 01:16:06,320 description of this video because I'm 4067 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,709 description of this video because I'm just that generous. Overall, it truly 4068 01:16:08,709 --> 01:16:08,719 just that generous. Overall, it truly 4069 01:16:08,719 --> 01:16:10,630 just that generous. Overall, it truly seems to me that so many people that 4070 01:16:10,630 --> 01:16:10,640 seems to me that so many people that 4071 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,630 seems to me that so many people that involve themselves in this situation 4072 01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:12,640 involve themselves in this situation 4073 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,270 involve themselves in this situation truly just do not deserve the online 4074 01:16:15,270 --> 01:16:15,280 truly just do not deserve the online 4075 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,510 truly just do not deserve the online careers or platforms which allow them to 4076 01:16:17,510 --> 01:16:17,520 careers or platforms which allow them to 4077 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,910 careers or platforms which allow them to influence and get into contact with 4078 01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:19,920 influence and get into contact with 4079 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:21,750 influence and get into contact with potentially hundreds of thousands of 4080 01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:21,760 potentially hundreds of thousands of 4081 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,189 potentially hundreds of thousands of people. As for Cineber herself, at least 4082 01:16:25,189 --> 01:16:25,199 people. As for Cineber herself, at least 4083 01:16:25,199 --> 01:16:27,189 people. As for Cineber herself, at least in terms of her public-f facing online 4084 01:16:27,189 --> 01:16:27,199 in terms of her public-f facing online 4085 01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:28,870 in terms of her public-f facing online career, she appears to have lost 4086 01:16:28,870 --> 01:16:28,880 career, she appears to have lost 4087 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,950 career, she appears to have lost everything. She has made and 4088 01:16:30,950 --> 01:16:30,960 everything. She has made and 4089 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,510 everything. She has made and subsequently disowned not one but two 4090 01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:33,520 subsequently disowned not one but two 4091 01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,990 subsequently disowned not one but two responses to the situation and now seems 4092 01:16:35,990 --> 01:16:36,000 responses to the situation and now seems 4093 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,669 responses to the situation and now seems to have given up on her internet 4094 01:16:37,669 --> 01:16:37,679 to have given up on her internet 4095 01:16:37,679 --> 01:16:40,070 to have given up on her internet presence entirely. All of her bridges 4096 01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:40,080 presence entirely. All of her bridges 4097 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,149 presence entirely. All of her bridges have been burned. Her reputation is in 4098 01:16:42,149 --> 01:16:42,159 have been burned. Her reputation is in 4099 01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:43,750 have been burned. Her reputation is in tatters and she has been called 4100 01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:43,760 tatters and she has been called 4101 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,990 tatters and she has been called everything from a groomer to a predator. 4102 01:16:45,990 --> 01:16:46,000 everything from a groomer to a predator. 4103 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:47,590 everything from a groomer to a predator. All of which has seemingly been enough 4104 01:16:47,590 --> 01:16:47,600 All of which has seemingly been enough 4105 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,430 All of which has seemingly been enough to bully her off the internet, even 4106 01:16:49,430 --> 01:16:49,440 to bully her off the internet, even 4107 01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:51,350 to bully her off the internet, even leading her to wipe all of her YouTube 4108 01:16:51,350 --> 01:16:51,360 leading her to wipe all of her YouTube 4109 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,510 leading her to wipe all of her YouTube videos. Although very recently she 4110 01:16:53,510 --> 01:16:53,520 videos. Although very recently she 4111 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,750 videos. Although very recently she brought them back up, so I'm not exactly 4112 01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:55,760 brought them back up, so I'm not exactly 4113 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,270 brought them back up, so I'm not exactly sure if that indicates anything about 4114 01:16:57,270 --> 01:16:57,280 sure if that indicates anything about 4115 01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,350 sure if that indicates anything about her future plans. The messages that 4116 01:16:59,350 --> 01:16:59,360 her future plans. The messages that 4117 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,189 her future plans. The messages that Cinebear exchanged with Eno are 4118 01:17:01,189 --> 01:17:01,199 Cinebear exchanged with Eno are 4119 01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:02,870 Cinebear exchanged with Eno are disgusting and so far beyond 4120 01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:02,880 disgusting and so far beyond 4121 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,630 disgusting and so far beyond inappropriate that I completely 4122 01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:04,640 inappropriate that I completely 4123 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,550 inappropriate that I completely understand the many people who never 4124 01:17:06,550 --> 01:17:06,560 understand the many people who never 4125 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,390 understand the many people who never want her to be able to get into contact 4126 01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:08,400 want her to be able to get into contact 4127 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,550 want her to be able to get into contact with children over the internet again. 4128 01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:10,560 with children over the internet again. 4129 01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,310 with children over the internet again. Though I don't know for sure, I have a 4130 01:17:12,310 --> 01:17:12,320 Though I don't know for sure, I have a 4131 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,550 Though I don't know for sure, I have a feeling that the fact that Cinebear 03 4132 01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:14,560 feeling that the fact that Cinebear 03 4133 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,870 feeling that the fact that Cinebear 03 and other people like her think having 4134 01:17:16,870 --> 01:17:16,880 and other people like her think having 4135 01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,470 and other people like her think having these kinds of interactions with 4136 01:17:18,470 --> 01:17:18,480 these kinds of interactions with 4137 01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:21,030 these kinds of interactions with children is acceptable is a result of a 4138 01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:21,040 children is acceptable is a result of a 4139 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,189 children is acceptable is a result of a truly diseased way of living in which 4140 01:17:23,189 --> 01:17:23,199 truly diseased way of living in which 4141 01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:25,189 truly diseased way of living in which they become extremely detached from 4142 01:17:25,189 --> 01:17:25,199 they become extremely detached from 4143 01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:28,070 they become extremely detached from reality and live entirely online. losing 4144 01:17:28,070 --> 01:17:28,080 reality and live entirely online. losing 4145 01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,070 reality and live entirely online. losing sight of real life to the extent that 4146 01:17:30,070 --> 01:17:30,080 sight of real life to the extent that 4147 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:31,830 sight of real life to the extent that they don't even see a problem with 4148 01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:31,840 they don't even see a problem with 4149 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,590 they don't even see a problem with speaking to people that are closer to 4150 01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:33,600 speaking to people that are closer to 4151 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,830 speaking to people that are closer to half their age than their actual age 4152 01:17:35,830 --> 01:17:35,840 half their age than their actual age 4153 01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,149 half their age than their actual age about degenerate topics and who will 4154 01:17:38,149 --> 01:17:38,159 about degenerate topics and who will 4155 01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:39,990 about degenerate topics and who will defend that prospect to their dying 4156 01:17:39,990 --> 01:17:40,000 defend that prospect to their dying 4157 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,229 defend that prospect to their dying breath. If you wouldn't talk to a real 4158 01:17:42,229 --> 01:17:42,239 breath. If you wouldn't talk to a real 4159 01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:44,709 breath. If you wouldn't talk to a real child about these topics in person, if 4160 01:17:44,709 --> 01:17:44,719 child about these topics in person, if 4161 01:17:44,719 --> 01:17:46,630 child about these topics in person, if you wouldn't approach them directly and 4162 01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:46,640 you wouldn't approach them directly and 4163 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,870 you wouldn't approach them directly and ask them to draw deplorable content for 4164 01:17:48,870 --> 01:17:48,880 ask them to draw deplorable content for 4165 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,270 ask them to draw deplorable content for you or read your porn out loud to you, 4166 01:17:51,270 --> 01:17:51,280 you or read your porn out loud to you, 4167 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,030 you or read your porn out loud to you, then I don't understand why you think 4168 01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:53,040 then I don't understand why you think 4169 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,950 then I don't understand why you think it's okay to spread your degenerate 4170 01:17:54,950 --> 01:17:54,960 it's okay to spread your degenerate 4171 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,189 it's okay to spread your degenerate gooning to them behind closed doors 4172 01:17:57,189 --> 01:17:57,199 gooning to them behind closed doors 4173 01:17:57,199 --> 01:17:59,270 gooning to them behind closed doors using the pseudo anonymity of the 4174 01:17:59,270 --> 01:17:59,280 using the pseudo anonymity of the 4175 01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,270 using the pseudo anonymity of the internet as a veil to hide the true 4176 01:18:01,270 --> 01:18:01,280 internet as a veil to hide the true 4177 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,270 internet as a veil to hide the true extent of your actions from both your 4178 01:18:03,270 --> 01:18:03,280 extent of your actions from both your 4179 01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,390 extent of your actions from both your audience and ultimately from yourself. 4180 01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:06,400 audience and ultimately from yourself. 4181 01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,310 audience and ultimately from yourself. It's one thing to have internet friends 4182 01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:08,320 It's one thing to have internet friends 4183 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,550 It's one thing to have internet friends and internet fans, and I don't see a 4184 01:18:10,550 --> 01:18:10,560 and internet fans, and I don't see a 4185 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,550 and internet fans, and I don't see a problem with either of those things. You 4186 01:18:12,550 --> 01:18:12,560 problem with either of those things. You 4187 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,310 problem with either of those things. You can even theoretically be friendly with 4188 01:18:14,310 --> 01:18:14,320 can even theoretically be friendly with 4189 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,390 can even theoretically be friendly with young fans in a healthy way through a 4190 01:18:16,390 --> 01:18:16,400 young fans in a healthy way through a 4191 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,229 young fans in a healthy way through a community discord or something along 4192 01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:18,239 community discord or something along 4193 01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:20,550 community discord or something along those lines, as many creators have done 4194 01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:20,560 those lines, as many creators have done 4195 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,149 those lines, as many creators have done in the past without it getting out of 4196 01:18:22,149 --> 01:18:22,159 in the past without it getting out of 4197 01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:24,149 in the past without it getting out of hand. But I think that's something that 4198 01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:24,159 hand. But I think that's something that 4199 01:18:24,159 --> 01:18:26,630 hand. But I think that's something that clearly did not happen here. Regardless 4200 01:18:26,630 --> 01:18:26,640 clearly did not happen here. Regardless 4201 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,630 clearly did not happen here. Regardless of how much Cynthia and others who have 4202 01:18:28,630 --> 01:18:28,640 of how much Cynthia and others who have 4203 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,470 of how much Cynthia and others who have defended her actions want to quibble 4204 01:18:30,470 --> 01:18:30,480 defended her actions want to quibble 4205 01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:32,709 defended her actions want to quibble about definitions, I personally think 4206 01:18:32,709 --> 01:18:32,719 about definitions, I personally think 4207 01:18:32,719 --> 01:18:35,030 about definitions, I personally think she's a detestable loser who has been 4208 01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:35,040 she's a detestable loser who has been 4209 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,950 she's a detestable loser who has been making the mistake of oversharing on the 4210 01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:36,960 making the mistake of oversharing on the 4211 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,430 making the mistake of oversharing on the internet for years. And oversharing an 4212 01:18:39,430 --> 01:18:39,440 internet for years. And oversharing an 4213 01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:41,270 internet for years. And oversharing an event animation is one thing, but 4214 01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:41,280 event animation is one thing, but 4215 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,430 event animation is one thing, but teaching children that idolize you, to 4216 01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:43,440 teaching children that idolize you, to 4217 01:18:43,440 --> 01:18:45,669 teaching children that idolize you, to think like you and act like you when it 4218 01:18:45,669 --> 01:18:45,679 think like you and act like you when it 4219 01:18:45,679 --> 01:18:47,750 think like you and act like you when it comes to your degenerate fantasies is a 4220 01:18:47,750 --> 01:18:47,760 comes to your degenerate fantasies is a 4221 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,910 comes to your degenerate fantasies is a shade too far. And I think we can all 4222 01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:49,920 shade too far. And I think we can all 4223 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:51,350 shade too far. And I think we can all agree that this is something that should 4224 01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:51,360 agree that this is something that should 4225 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,590 agree that this is something that should never happen. I truly hope Cine Bear is 4226 01:18:53,590 --> 01:18:53,600 never happen. I truly hope Cine Bear is 4227 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:54,709 never happen. I truly hope Cine Bear is following through with what she 4228 01:18:54,709 --> 01:18:54,719 following through with what she 4229 01:18:54,719 --> 01:18:56,870 following through with what she promised. speaking to a therapist and 4230 01:18:56,870 --> 01:18:56,880 promised. speaking to a therapist and 4231 01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,950 promised. speaking to a therapist and getting off of social media forever. And 4232 01:18:58,950 --> 01:18:58,960 getting off of social media forever. And 4233 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:00,630 getting off of social media forever. And although she promised to do those exact 4234 01:19:00,630 --> 01:19:00,640 although she promised to do those exact 4235 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,110 although she promised to do those exact things in her initial apology video, and 4236 01:19:03,110 --> 01:19:03,120 things in her initial apology video, and 4237 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,870 things in her initial apology video, and that didn't really seem to pan out, I 4238 01:19:04,870 --> 01:19:04,880 that didn't really seem to pan out, I 4239 01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:06,709 that didn't really seem to pan out, I hope she can finally take accountability 4240 01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:06,719 hope she can finally take accountability 4241 01:19:06,719 --> 01:19:08,550 hope she can finally take accountability for what she has done and never touch 4242 01:19:08,550 --> 01:19:08,560 for what she has done and never touch 4243 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,430 for what she has done and never touch the internet again. But as I always say, 4244 01:19:11,430 --> 01:19:11,440 the internet again. But as I always say, 4245 01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:13,350 the internet again. But as I always say, what do I know? I've just been your 4246 01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:13,360 what do I know? I've just been your 4247 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,550 what do I know? I've just been your host, Jormy 49. What a ride and good 4248 01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:16,560 host, Jormy 49. What a ride and good 4249 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,110 host, Jormy 49. What a ride and good night. If you've stuck around this far, 4250 01:19:19,110 --> 01:19:19,120 night. If you've stuck around this far, 4251 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:20,630 night. If you've stuck around this far, consider liking the video and 4252 01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:20,640 consider liking the video and 4253 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,310 consider liking the video and subscribing. This video took a 4254 01:19:22,310 --> 01:19:22,320 subscribing. This video took a 4255 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,070 subscribing. This video took a ridiculous amount of time and it was 4256 01:19:24,070 --> 01:19:24,080 ridiculous amount of time and it was 4257 01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:25,830 ridiculous amount of time and it was honestly really horrible to make. So, 4258 01:19:25,830 --> 01:19:25,840 honestly really horrible to make. So, 4259 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,830 honestly really horrible to make. So, I'd appreciate the support. If you 4260 01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:27,840 I'd appreciate the support. If you 4261 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,270 I'd appreciate the support. If you didn't like it, maybe leave a comment 4262 01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:29,280 didn't like it, maybe leave a comment 4263 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,510 didn't like it, maybe leave a comment telling me why. Regardless, thank you 4264 01:19:31,510 --> 01:19:31,520 telling me why. Regardless, thank you 4265 01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,669 telling me why. Regardless, thank you for watching and stay safe. destroy my 4266 01:19:33,669 --> 01:19:33,679 for watching and stay safe. destroy my 4267 01:19:33,679 --> 01:19:36,679 for watching and stay safe. destroy my 49ers.