The internet is a wonderful thing. Its
very existence has caused such an
enormous reframing of our lives that it
has left the current generation with a
genuine inability to imagine what life
was like before it existed. We can joke
all we want about the dank recesses of
Tik Tok and YouTube shorts where brain
cells go to die or the apocalyptic
levels of cringe consistently blasted
out by fans of every franchise in the
world. But the internet and the
creations it has allowed for have no
doubt vastly influenced the lives of
every single person watching this video.
I know you're all terminally online. But
the internet can be poisonous, too. It
allows for the festering of degeneracy
and the corrosion of morality. And these
things can occur not only in its
deepest, darkest corners, but sometimes
out in the open for everyone to see. And
although I acknowledge the wondrousness
of the internet and I have a lot of
appreciation for all the ways it's
improved our lives, the jaw my 49ers
should know by now that those things are
not what interest me the most. What I am
most fascinated by are the tales of the
darker side of the internet. And so when
after I uploaded my video about Cristali
late last year, I started getting
comments about one of the creators whose
posts I'd shown on screen and
specifically about how this creator had
been accused of being a degenerate and a
groomer in a series of callout documents
totaling nearly 300 pages. Well, I
decided to look into it and what I
discovered was quite the degenerate
ride. The individual we find ourselves
discussing here today is an animator
known as Ciney Bear03. And the
controversy that erupted around her in
September of 2024 was among the most
insane I've ever witnessed on the
internet. Over the course of my time
online, I've seen no shortage of exposed
videos and callout posts accusing online
figures of doing something deplorable.
And I've seen many an online titan
felled by the consequences of their
actions. But I have to say this
situation has shown me many firsts. For
example, it was the first instance I've
seen of a call out video starting with
the uploader saying that they need to
keep their voice down because the
subject of the video was in the other
room while they were recording. It was
the first time I'd seen someone post an
apology video for what they called, in
their own words, grooming a minor, only
for them to turn around, delete that
video, and make a new response like they
were resetting a video game at a
checkpoint. And finally, it was the
first time I'd seen a rotating roster of
commentators go out of their way to
defend someone accused of being a creep,
only to flush their online careers
directly down the Skibbidity toilet. The
Cine Bear 03 situation is one that began
with serious allegations, but which
quickly devolved into a multic community
drama involving extremely personal slap
fights, alleged death threats,
behindthe-scenes conspiracies, and white
knighting on a scale hitherto undret of.
All of which took the internet by storm
and led to so many degenerate
revelations that nobody who goes outside
could possibly keep track of them. So
you all can come to your own conclusions
about the quality of my social life once
this video is over. So buckle up, draw
my 49ers, because I'm here to tell you
all about the rise, fall, and aftermath
of yet another YouTube animation meme
degenerate. But of course, before we
truly get started, it's time for a few
disclaimers. First of all, if you don't
want to see discussions of inappropriate
interactions between adults and minors,
including alleged grooming and the
spreading of explicit materials, you
might want to set this video out.
Furthermore, throughout this video, I'll
be covering a lot of allegations made by
other people. As per usual, I will not
be passing judgment on the allegations
contained in this video. I will simply
be covering what they are, who has made
them, and what the reaction to them has
been, and I will let you all come to
your own conclusions. I will also be
including the documents and videos cited
in the description. So, if you want to
do research on your own, feel free to do
so. Though, obviously, be forewarned
that the content may be disturbing.
Okay, with all that out of the way,
let's finally get started.
Cinebear 03 is a YouTube animator with
more than 500,000 subscribers, though,
she came close to falling below that
number after the allegations led to her
losing nearly 20,000 of them. Over the
course of the decade her channel has
been on this site, her content has
changed drastically. Something that is
thoroughly unsurprising considering that
she created her account when she was
only 10 years old. And side note, that
would make her 21 years old in current
day. And if you're wondering why I'm
bringing up her age now, it's a topic
that's going to come up a lot later.
Now, although the name that was totally
flogged all throughout the animation
meme community and beyond late last
year, is Cinebear 03, Cynthia, the
person behind the channel, has not
always gone by this name online. Rather,
she has gone by a couple of different
names throughout her time on the
platform. But most significantly, when
she first began to amass a significant
amount of followers, she was known as
Scootaloo Loves Sans with the name
combining two of her favorite
characters. Scootaloo from My Little
Pony and Sans from Undertale. As we'll
discuss more in depth later, Cine Bear
has exhibited throughout her time online
an enduring tendency to become obsessed
with fictional characters. And while in
later times this obsession would become
less uh innocent, at this point it
merely led to her content consisting
mainly of fanfictions, animation memes,
and speed draws featuring characters
from these two franchises. For example,
her very first video, which was uploaded
in 2015, was essentially a homemade My
Little Pony fanfiction comic that had
been edited together and played over
music. Cinebear's channel first started
to gain traction in 2017 with the upload
of videos like Sans is bored, which
featured drawings of various Undertale
characters over popular Vine audios and
hot milk meme, which is whatever this
is. Both of which obtained very
respectable view counts. However, things
really started to ramp up when she
uploaded timelapse meme Scootaloo and
Rainbow Dash. an absolute banger of a
video that blew up, receiving upwards of
22 million views. Honestly, the fact
that this single video has more than 10
times the amount of views I've ever
received, makes me want to quit the
video essays and just put the brony
content in the bag. Horse fame, here I
come. Alongside her YouTube channel,
Ciney Bear, or I guess I should say Scoo
at this point, also ran accounts on
various other sites where she would post
more of her artwork, including
Instagram, DeviantArt Art, and Twitter.
And naturally, as her YouTube following
began to expand, so too did the
attention on these other accounts. While
she would first populate these pages
with posts relating to more seemingly
innocuous fanfictions, like her
crossover between MLP and Undertale
titled Ponytail, the art she published
in later years would actually go on to
attract a fair bit of negative
attention. But we're getting ahead of
ourselves. Contrary to what I would
normally do on this channel, I'm not
actually going to be going very indepth
on Cinebear's backstory prior to the
most recent events which led to her
downfall. mostly because I'll be
dedicating a very significant amount of
time to discussing the drama that
resulted from the allegations against
her in 2024. And compared to that, the
early years of her career are for the
most part, frankly, not of particular
interest. Instead, I'm just going to
give you the cliff notes setting up a
few major characters and concerning
trends in Cinebear's behavior that would
come up multiple times throughout her
online career up until its untimely
demise. Although Cine Bear would find
herself in a couple of spats with other
creators during her first few years of
uploading, these generally consisted of
petty dramas relating to topics that
likely wouldn't interest anyone outside
the art commentary or animation meme
communities. And they also resolved
themselves relatively quickly with few
long-term consequences. The first time
she would find herself in truly hot
water wasn't actually until mid2020 when
she painted a target on her back by
associating with potentially one of the
most controversial figures to ever touch
the internet. Birdie. Birdie is a figure
that has been contentious since the very
inception of his internet presence.
Having been the subject of so many
dramas over the years that I genuinely
wouldn't know where to start when
describing his online career. He has
been accused of many, many things over
the years, and even now, new allegations
against him continue to emerge, some of
which will be more relevant later. In
2020, birdie drama was seemingly at an
all-time high in the art commentary
community as rant video after rant video
was pumped out reporting claims that
Birdie had persistently harassed and
even doxed his exartner, publicly
fantasized about kidnapping and doing
more to them and posted some truly
unhinged and obscene content featuring
other online creators. As you might
imagine, in the midst of all these
claims, many in the community were
avoiding Birdie like the plague. Not
only because they may have been afraid
of him based on what they had heard, but
also because their viewers were
vehemently against any other creators
associating with him in a positive way.
However, it seems that Cine Barrow 3
didn't exactly get this memo as she
started to make it clear that she wanted
to forge a relationship with Birdie,
depicting him in a positive way in her
artwork, pinning his comments on her
videos, and making efforts to hang
around in his social circles. And when I
say that Cine Bear was depicting Birdie
in a positive way in her art, I don't
just mean that she was posting fan art
of him or collaborating with him or
something. It was much more personal
than that. And I think it's worth going
into just a bit because the relationship
between Birdie and Cinebear will come up
a lot later in this video. Around summer
of 2020, Cinebear began posting artwork
of a group of people she referred to as
Vent Gang. This group consisted of
Cinebear herself, her friend Laurel, an
animator known as Sashley, and Birdie.
and they fit into what Cinebear dubbed
vent world, which was apparently a
mental Undertale alternate universe
contained completely within her head
that she would retreat to when she
wanted to get away from her life. In
making Birdie one of the characters in
her Undertale head cannon, people have
since theorized that Cinebear literally
influenced the way she thought about
Birdie as a person since he was one of
the heroes in her mental world. I don't
know if I personally buy into that line
of thought, but I just wanted to
contextualize why exactly people had
such a problem with Cinebear's
depictions of Birdie in her artwork
because it goes beyond her just drawing
a controversial creator. Also, I think
it's absolutely dystopian that someone
is allowed to overshare this much on the
internet, but that's going to be a
pretty common theme in this story.
Around the time that all of this was
occurring, a group of people dedicated
to documenting all of Birdie's
wrongdoings created a YouTube channel
called Evidence Found01 and began
publishing a long series of videos about
him. Now, one thing I will note here
about Evidence Found01 is that this
channel has since been taken down and
all the videos deleted. And I'm not
really sure why, but I'm not trying to
endorse their content or decisions. The
main reason I'm bringing them up is
because after coming to the conclusion
that Ciney Bear was trying to defend or
minimize Birdie's actions by portraying
him in a positive way to her audience,
evidence found saw fit to call her out,
dedicating a video specifically to her,
and this is what drew a lot of negative
attention to her channel. People would
only continue to grow more and more
rabid about the Cine Bear Birdie
connection over the coming months when
various DMs exchanged between Cine Bear
and her ex-girlfriend were leaked. DMs
that seem to suggest that Cdy Bear's
interest in Birdie went beyond what was
publicly known. They apparently showed
that Cine Bear had a crush on Birdie at
the time, which may have been
influencing her actions. And though that
may sound like speculation, Cine Bear
would go on to confirm it later. God,
this all sounds so ridiculous when I say
it. I feel like I'm a little girl again,
gossiping about crushes in the
schoolyard. But remember, people in the
community were up in arms about someone
drawing fan art of Birdie during this
period. So, the idea that Ciney Bear
wanted to date him was obviously
unacceptable to them. I just think it's
insane that I'm discussing crushes in a
drama retrospective video, but I
digress. This information combined with
other concerning aspects of the leaked
conversations which apparently depicted
Cinebear being fixated on the idea of
getting uh essay to the point that many
people saw it as her downplaying or even
romanticizing rape led to people taking
an even closer look at her conduct.
Especially considering that this was
something a lot of people considered
Birdie to be guilty of at the time,
leading many to believe that Cinebear
was being influenced by him or following
in his footsteps. What would follow was
literal months of callouts as people
began to add to the everexpanding list
of grievances they had with Cinebear 03.
Namely, she was accused of romanticizing
abuse throughout various of her vent
artworks and a comic series she made
which revolved around an Undertale
alternate universe featuring an evil
version of Sans known as Nightmare. The
perception of this series was
significantly worsened by an
accompanying drawing Cine Bear made in
which she refers to Nightmare as her
quote abusive husband that doesn't fully
understand love. which to many implied
that Cine Bear wanted to make domestic
abuse appear cutesy courtesy of the oo
accent. Over the course of the latter
half of 2020, this criticism along with
others related to her association with
Birdie and a few more I won't be going
into here led Cinebear to begin planning
a response. This began with her
uploading a video titled We Need to Talk
in January of 2021, requesting that her
viewers leave comments describing any
concerns they might have with her or her
content. Then 4 months later, she would
upload a video in which she responds to
many of these comments in a long-winded
apology for essentially every criticism
that had been sent her way. She would
explain away her romanticization of
abuse and essay by alluding to trauma
she had apparently experienced in the
past, which she claimed led her to
suffer from maladaptive daydreams in
which evil versions of Sans would attack
her, leading her to feel physical pain
and want to express this through her
art. If any of you guys are lost, I I'm
right there with you. She also addressed
her association with Birdie, claiming
that she essentially believed she could
be friends with someone without
endorsing everything they have ever done
and that his potential wrongdoings
should be between him and the people he
affected. Overall, this video was
received quite well and effectively
quashed Zinny Bear's first major drama,
mostly due to the fact that while she
did provide explanations for her actions
throughout the response, her audience
did not interpret any of them as
attempts to dodge responsibility.
Instead, Cine Bear made it seem as
though she understood why people were
upset with her and would strive to do
better in the future. This assured
people that she would be more open and
honest about her faults and wrongdoings
in the future. However, this is not a
trend that would continue. Rather, the
trends that would continue were those
relating to Cinebear's tendencies to
overshare about very personal
information and fixate on inappropriate
and uncomfortable topics. Though, as
we'll come to see, this is something
that would manifest less and less in her
public-f facing persona and more
frequently in private interactions with
people she should never have been
speaking to in the first place. And
we'll get to all of that very soon. But
with that, Cine Bear went back to
uploading videos and art as usual.
Though at this point, she would pivot
her channel more towards art commentary,
tackling trending topics like the antics
of Sneo and Andrew Tate. And if the
comment section and like to dislike
ratios on her videos is to be trusted,
she did seemingly carve out a place for
herself as an art commentary channel.
She would also create a community
Discord server in June of 2021 known as
Cine's fan club where her audience would
get a chance to interact with her
directly and form a stronger connection
with her on a more personal level. Now,
to be clear, the next few years were not
exactly what I would call smooth sailing
for Cinebear 03, as she actually managed
to get into her fair share of
controversies and was even the subject
of a few callout videos along the way.
But rather than go through the worst
controversies between 2021 and 2024 in
chronological order, I'm simply going to
skip in my little timeline to the
release of the first callout document in
2024 because it essentially compiles
everything that was public knowledge at
that point into one single place. So sit
back, my dear Jaw, my 49ers, as I take
you through the points made against
Cinebear 03 one by one, explaining
context when necessary. And keep in mind
that this will only be the first call
out document of multiple that we will be
going through. And although the later
documents are considered to contain the
significantly more serious allegations,
I do still think it is worth going
through the first document because many
considered it to be damning in its own
right. And regardless, it was clearly
what signified the beginning of the end
for Cinebear 03.
On September 1st, 2024, a Google
document titled Addressing Cinebear 03
was created by one of Cinebear's former
friends. In the coming days, this
document would be posted on Instagram by
an account bearing the same name as the
document's title. Simultaneously, it was
pushed by a user known as Fonsalee on
Twitter, who claimed to be the partner
of the doc's creator. This document
sought to serve as a compilation of what
the author believed to be Cinebear's
inappropriate interactions with minors
in her audience. And these interactions
fell into four general categories. With
those being one, inappropriate messages
Ciney Bear had apparently sent in a
group chat when she was an adult and
other members of the group were minors.
Two, not safe for work art and
statements Cinebear had posted in her 13
plus Discord server. Three, a quote
unquote inappropriate friendship that
turned very NSFW, which Cinebear had
with a 17-year-old when she was 19. And
four, Cine Bear's apparent obsession
with the fictional characters created by
a user known as Sock.Clip, which led her
to disrespect their boundaries. The
framing of this document was ostensibly
that Ciney Bear03 should be held
accountable for her inappropriate
conduct around minors. With regards to
the group chat, the author of the
document claims to have personally been
part of it when they were a minor and
alongside multiple other minors. They
apparently bore witness to various
inappropriate messages that were sent by
Cinebear and some of her adult friends,
one of whom was as old as 24. Some of
these messages consisted of Cine Bear
sending what was described by the author
of the document as NSFW gore art to the
chat, as well as various instances in
which she talks about how horny she is
and has conversations with her then
boyfriend about not knowing what to do
with her uh horniness. Many of these
themes were repeated in the messages
that Ciney Bear had been sending in her
Discord server, Ciney's Fan Club, which
was a server for fans aged 13 years old
and above. Here, Ciney Bear can once
again be seen posting suggestive artwork
and repeatedly discussing how she is
aggressively and painfully horny, even
going so far as to on multiple occasions
ask the members of her server for advice
on finding an AI chatbot that allowed
sexual conversations so that she could
goon while talking to it. After
discussing the types of messages Cine
Barrow 3 had been sending in the
vicinity of miners, the document goes on
to describing a situation that had
actually been brought to the public
nearly a year prior. This situation
revolved around a user known as
Bugspray, who published two videos
calling out Cinebear 3 in late 2023.
According to Bugspray, they' apparently
joined Cine's fan club with the
intention of befriending Cinebear 03.
This endeavor was evidently successful
as the two of them quickly grew close
and Cine Bear opened up to Bug spray
almost immediately. As early as a week
into their friendship, Cine Bear
apparently began sending very not safe
for work messages, including things like
artworks and fanfictions depicting
Nightmare Sans and a character named Boy
engaging in noncon activities. And if
you're wondering, noncon means
non-consensual.
She even sent a comic featuring birdie
saing her. And this was apparently the
same time she was asking Bug spray if
they wanted to move into an apartment
that they would apparently share with
Cine Bear and Birdie. Uh
what I guess I can't say I'm surprised
that that living arrangement didn't work
out in the end. Bugspray also claimed
that Cine Bear had encouraged them to
send pictures of themselves in their
underwear. The disturbing NSFW artworks,
as well as the fact that they were a
minor at the time Cine Bear had sent
them, were the focal point of Bugay's
call-out videos on Cinebear 03, leading
them to call her a quote unquote rape
fanatic who hadn't changed at all since
her prior controversies and who was
sending NSFW content to a minor.
However, while these videos did gain a
slight amount of traction, the situation
never escalated to the point that Cine
Bear needed to make a video addressing
it. And there were a few reasons for
this. Following the release of Bug
sprays videos, a small commentary
creator known as Sof the Neko would
publish a now disowned video defending
Cinebear. At the time, Sofh sought to
reframe the accusations Bugspray made
against Cinebear and call into question
the way they had handled the situation,
claiming that Bug spray was being
disrespectful and ignorant of the fact
that Ciney Bear was likely using the
affforementioned nonconomochism
art to cope with trauma from being
essayed. Sofh shows that this is
actually an explanation she had been
given by Cinebear 03 directly who
claimed that her therapist had seen the
comics and said they were an important
coping mechanism for her. Furthermore,
she criticizes Bug's decision to publish
these things to the internet instead of
expressing discomfort to Ciney Bear
directly. Finally, S pointed out that
while Cine Bear had been an adult and
Bug spray had been a minor during these
interactions, the age gap between them
was 2 years. This point has been echoed
by multiple different people as many on
the internet do not see an issue with
age gaps of this size. Whether or not
you think any of this diminishes the
severity of the bug spray situation, I
will leave up to you all. I'm merely
documenting here the reasons that the
2023 callouts may not have had the
intended effects on Cine Bear's
reputation. It's worth noting that
Sofanco has denounced Anero 3 as of
September of 2024 and Bugpay actually
tweeted in January of this year stating
that the two of them had officially
resolved their beef. Bugay has also
since published a document going much
more in depth on their interactions with
Cinebear 3 than they did in their
original videos. I've included that in
the description in case you want to
check it out and see what they have to
say. But obviously keep in mind that the
interactions are very inappropriate.
Overall, the last thing I wanted to
address from the bug spray situation is
Cinebear's response to it because it
provides insight as to why so many of
her fans felt so quote unquote betrayed
by the later allegations that were made
against her. Namely, Cineber 3 responded
to Bugay's callouts by acknowledging
that it was completely wrong to speak in
a sexual way to someone under the age of
consent. And furthermore, she makes the
fateful claim that she would never
befriend someone under the age of 18
years old again just to be safe. But
before we finally discuss the events
that prove this statement was a complete
lie, there is one more section of the
first document that I will briefly
discuss. The final section of the
addressing Cinear 3 document describes
the events that occurred surrounding
Cinebear's beef with a user known as
sock.clipip clip that resulted from
Cinebear becoming extremely obsessed
with certain characters Sock had created
to the point that she was unable to
resist uh shipping herself with those
fictional characters and drawing them in
disturbing situations. For example, the
boy character that I mentioned before
who Ciney Bear drew saing Nightmare
Sands was created by sock.clipip. The
reason this resulted in tensions rising
between City Bear and Sock was because
it was clearly stated in Sock's bio that
they did not want anyone sexualizing or
shipping their OC's. Cine Bear would
make multiple posts throughout the years
claiming that she was going to stop
using Socks characters in order to avoid
making them uncomfortable. However,
privately she made it clear that she had
no intention of actually respecting
these boundaries. Furthermore, according
to a video uploaded in February 2025 by
Bugpray, Cinebear's obsession with
Sock.clipip went even further than was
previously known to the point that
Cinebear confided in Bugay that she had
had a dream about visiting Sock.clipip's
house in real life. This video also
contains more information on Bugpay's
experiences, so I will again link it in
the description below. When it comes to
this document, it seems as though the
main criticism made against City Bear
was that she was disrespecting sock.
Clips boundaries and overall just being
a really weird gooner with their
characters even after they repeatedly
asked her to stop. And that essentially
brings us to the end of the addressing
Cinebear 03 document. Now, as I
mentioned previously, the more serious
allegations were contained within
documents that would be posted following
this one. However, the addressing
Cinebear 03 document was severe enough
on its own to prompt Cinebear to begin
working on a response to it. It's likely
that this response would have leveraged
the fact that Cine Bear had already
addressed the bug spray situation and
promised to never befriend miners online
again. However, unfortunately for her,
Cine Bear was not afforded the
opportunity to tell this lie again. as
pieces began to move behind the scenes
and within a day, revelations were made
that would completely change the way
that the internet viewed Cinebear 03.
As the story is told by Laurel, one of
Cinebear 03's former friends, on the
night of September 13th, 2024, a Discord
group chat was formed, including her,
Birdie, Sof, the Neko, and a fourth user
known as Eno. Laurel was unfamiliar with
Eno at this time. However, she was
quickly informed by other members of the
chat that he was a 14-year-old who
Cineber had been inappropriately
messaging for the past 6 months. The
next day, presumably after having been
advised by the group on how best to
proceed, Eno would go on to publish a
Google document simply titled Cinei. The
document was a staggering 188 pages long
and consisted almost entirely of
screenshots of conversations that had
taken place between Eno and Cinebear 03
while Eno was 14 years of age and
Cinebear was 20. I won't be going
incredibly ind depth on the specific
content of these messages, but
essentially Ciney Bear frequently
discussed in great detail her fantasies
along the lines of Sato masochism,
essay, abuse, etc. with Eno.
Furthermore, she also sent Eno various
degenerate artworks culminating in a now
infamous fulllength comic in which Boy
repeatedly rips Nightmare Sands. Not
only was this comic sent to Eno, but
Cine Bear would actually have him join a
call with her and read it aloud to her.
She also encouraged Eno to draw and
engage with this type of material
himself and coached him on how best to
do it, clearly desiring to teach him to
engage in these sexual fantasies along
with her and create more fetish material
for her. It's worth noting that the
document opens up with Eno claiming that
throughout the course of his
interactions with Cinebear, he was never
under the impression that she was
sexually attracted to him or that she
wanted to cultivate a romantic
relationship with him. However, he does
state that he believes what she did
constitutes grooming. After Eno's
document was posted, the end was
inevitable for Cinebear 03, and things
moved extremely quickly following this
point. Though the dock on its own would
certainly have made the rounds of the
internet eventually, videos posted by
Sof the Neko and Birdie would instantly
push evidence of Cinebear's degeneracy
to hundreds of thousands of viewers.
We're going to be taking a very in-depth
look at Birdy's video and the monsoon of
drama it initiated in just a minute. But
first, I'd like to elaborate a bit more
on the dynamic between Cinebear and
Birdie at this time and how it had
changed since 2021. all the way back in
Cinebear's first major drama. The two
had stayed in contact and had only
continued to grow closer over the years
until in late 2023, Cinebear drove
halfway across the United States in
order to pick Birdie up and bring him
home with her, at which point they moved
into a new apartment together. Over the
next few months, their friendship
apparently flourished with them
constantly posting art of each other and
doing things like baking brownies for
one another. In fact, just a month
before the call out documents about her
were posted in late August of 2024,
Cinebear posted a 3-hour long video
defending Birdie against what she saw
was victim blaming in response to his
comeback video to the internet. And
apparently, the plan was for there to be
more content on this subject since this
video has part one in the title. Suffice
it to say, their relationship was, or at
least appeared to be publicly, very
close and very strong all the way up
until the moment these documents were
published. Which is probably part of the
reason that it came as such a shock to
the internet when on September 15th,
2024, Birdie uploaded a video titled,
"My roommate groomed a 14-year-old. I
need help."
Bird's video, which now sits at well
over 400,000 views, reiterates the
claims made by Eno and uses them to
declare Cinebear 03 as a groomer and a
predator who should not be allowed to
remain on the internet, even giving Eno
an opportunity to speak up about his
experiences with Cinebear directly to a
large audience. But Birdie's main goal
in making this video clearly went a lot
further than spreading awareness about
Cinebear's actions. Something that
became clear when he actually levied a
brand new allegation against her, that
of sexual assault. Specifically, Birdie
claims that while they had been living
together, Cinebear had frequently done
things like poking him in the butt and
crotch and touching his chest despite
him screaming in protest. However, he
clarifies afterwards that he had
consented to being touched, but then had
started to feel uncomfortable after the
fact as the touching escalated.
Ultimately, Bird's video culminated in
him saying that he did not feel safe
living with Cinebear anymore and that he
was planning on moving out. However, due
to the fact that he was quote too
disabled to work, he didn't feel that he
would be able to afford staying
somewhere else. As such, he decided to
open a GoFundMe campaign, seeking
$10,000,
a goal that would be reached the next
day. Brady's video has since come under
a lot of scrutiny, as his motivations in
uploading it and various claims he makes
within it would eventually be called
into question, largely due to some very
questionable conduct on Bird's end in
handling this situation. For example,
and I can't believe I'm saying this
right now, Birdie inexplicably ended his
grooming call out video with an
animation he had made of his and
Cinebear 03's avatars dancing on
stripper poles, and it's really weird.
He also went on to refer to her as
Bear03, replied to art of her being
murdered with, "Fuck yeah, kill your
local for legal reasons. I'm not wishing
harm on Sinny at all. I just like this
art." and even went so far as to leave
her a hat with the word groom on it when
he moved out, leaving many a gasast at
the way he had handled these
allegations. He would also continue to
make the situation about himself over
the coming months by claiming that
Cinebear 03 was trying to hack his
Discord and was threatening to kill him
up until the point that his reputation
took a severe nose dive as allegations
about him began to surface. But we'll
address all that later. At this specific
point in time in the immediate aftermath
of his video going up, it received
universal acclaim, leading the internet
to rally against Cinebear 03 and behind
Birdie. And this overwhelmingly positive
reception was due in no small part to
the fact that the grooming allegations
against Cinebear would be backed up by
her own words later the exact same day
that Birdie's call-up video went up in
her first official response to the
situation. Though, keep in mind that
this response has since been denounced.
On September 15th, 2024, Cineber 3
uploaded a video titled, "I'm so sorry."
And as you can probably guess with a
title like that, it doesn't provide much
in terms of denial. In fact, it's
probably the most explicit confession of
engaging in degenerate activities that
I've ever seen in my entire time on the
internet, as it essentially comprises of
Cinebear 03 stating that she had groomed
a 14-year-old and sent them graphic
materials and that she knew what she was
doing was wrong and that she still did
it anyway. Notably, Cineber 3 ends this
video by telling people not to defend
her and claiming that she was going to
be leaving all social media and seeking
therapy. Furthermore, she stated that if
she were ever to return to the internet,
it would be years later at the very
least, as she wanted to take time to
ensure she wouldn't do something like
this again. And I have to say, it's not
exactly a vote of confidence on
Cinebear's end that she thinks it would
take years for her to get over the
tendency to speak to minors
inappropriately.
But as I always say, what do I know?
Cinebear 3's confession would very
quickly make the rounds of the internet
with art commentary creators jumping to
cover the story. However, it wouldn't
stop there as the situation continued
exploding in visibility to the point
that it left the art oriented sphere of
the internet, showing up on the radar of
commentary YouTubers like Turkey Tom.
Virtually everyone on the internet was
condemning Cinebear 03 and things were
quickly starting to escalate. According
to Cinebear herself, she was apparently
doxed during this period of time and
people began calling her place of work
to tell her boss that she was a child
predator. This apparently led her to
fear for her safety, at which point she
began attempting to acquire various
miscellaneous weapons, including guns,
knives, pepper spray, and crowbars. The
fact that Cine Bear was apparently
attempting to obtain weaponry, was also
accompanied by various concerning
messages she had been sending behind the
scenes, which were subsequently leaked
to Twitter. These messages depict Ciney
Bear ranting about how much she wanted
to kill Birdie because of the
allegations he had made against her. And
the existence of these messages led to
the affformentioned claim made by Birdie
that Cinebear was threatening to end his
life, specifically using the weapons she
was currently trying to obtain.
According to Laurel, this actually
escalated to the police reaching out to
both her and Birdie to ask if they felt
safe because Cinebear 03 had apparently
at some point drawn her killing the both
of them. Though, take this claim with a
grain of salt because I've yet to see
this drawing for myself, so I'm just
going off of Laurel's word here. Suffice
it to say, Cinebear 03 was being nearly
unanimously condemned by all corners of
the internet, and she was entering the
preliminary stages of a legendary crash
out. But note that I said nearly
unanimously. That was a very intentional
word choice. Because you see, even in
this darkest hour, Cinebear 03 was not
without her allies. That brings us to
what some have chosen to refer to as the
Cinebear Defense Force. An eclectic
coalition of individuals that came
together from across the internet to
plot a course to redemption for the
maligned creator. You see, in the days
following both Birdie's video and
Cinebear's response to the allegations,
Birdie began tweeting about the
possibility that Cinebear 03 would
attempt to make a comeback to the
internet, with her efforts being
centered around a second response video
that would rescend her confession and
push the heat onto Birdie, painting him
as an unreliable narrator in an attempt
to discredit the allegations he was
signal boosting. And although no source
was provided to back up this claim, it
would be proven correct very shortly.
And as would later be discovered,
Cinebear was actively working on this
response video behind the scenes in
multiple different group chats a mere
week after her confession was posted.
These group chats were the source of a
significant amount of drama, and I will
be addressing that in just a minute.
However, before I do, there is one last
claim that was made during this time
period that I wanted to note before
moving on. On September 19th, 2024, a
YouTuber known as Yuri uploaded a video
titled, "What you don't know about
Cinebear 03: Awareness Rant," wherein
they allege they had discovered accounts
on YouTube and Instagram that were
covertly run by Cinebear in 2022, where
she went by Lolly Molly 2006. On these
accounts, Yuri claims that Cinebear
intentionally acted younger than she
was. And given the year included in the
username, the implication is that anyone
viewing these accounts was supposed to
believe the user behind them was 16
years old at that time. And remember
that this is multiple years younger than
Cinebear would have been. In response to
these claims, most viewers were
generally pretty horrified as the idea
that Cinebear 03, who was currently
embroiled in a drama relating to
inappropriate interactions with minors,
had been intentionally making herself
seem younger on alternate accounts, is
intriguing to say the least. This video
never got much traction, and I'm only
bringing it up because I frankly thought
it was an interesting claim that we'll
probably never know the true
implications of. Regardless, it's time
to address the affforementioned group
chats that were designed to help Cine
Ver 3 craft her response video.
I won't be going incredibly indepth as
to how everyone involved in these group
chats came to be Cinebear's strongest
soldiers, but I will address a few of
the major players defending her. And
keep in mind that most of them have
either denounced her actions by this
point in time or have attempted to claim
that they were never being serious and
defending her and were simply trolling
the entire time. The most influential
member of the crew was seemingly Kumo
Commentary who was formerly a small
commentary YouTuber before he deleted
his channel last year. Kumo managed to
become somewhat infamous in the
commentary community as the Cinebear 03
drama ramped up because he would
regularly debate people on the severity
of Cinebear's actions, claiming that
they should not classify her as a
groomer. When faced with the fact that
Cinebear 03 had confessed and professed
herself to be a groomer, Kumo and others
who shared his views would claim that
she had been manipulated and coerced
into confessing by Birdie. In the weeks
following the beginning of the
controversy, he also went out of his way
to involve himself with Cinebear's
efforts to make a comeback to the
internet, playing a role in multiple
group chats and even corresponding with
Cinebear directly in DMs to help her
craft a response. The other members of
the chat were less prominent within the
community, but still played a role in
generating ideas for Cinebear 03's
comeback video. I would honestly be
remiss if I didn't read you an excerpt
of a prospective script suggested to
Ciney Bear by a user known as Romantic
Goblin. Hey everyone, it's Ciney here
and I've been seeing a lot of crazy
stuff being said about me online lately.
So, I just want to set the record
straight. First of all, let's talk about
the whole thing with the 14-year-old. I
know that people are saying it was some
big deal, like, "Oh my god, she was
talking to someone younger." But
honestly, it wasn't that deep. People
want to blow things out of proportion
because they need someone to hate. And
apparently that someone is me right now.
And let me talk about Jack. Jack is
Birdie, by the way. That dude is
straight up lying. I don't even know
where he gets half the things he's
saying about me. It's like he's just
making things up for clout or attention.
It's actually sad. He can't even keep
his story straight half the time. Like,
what am I supposed to do with that? You
know what? I've been thinking about all
the hate I'm getting. And honestly, it
reminds me of how some of the most
influential people in history were
treated. Like, take Okay, dude, I can't
read this anymore. Now, as you might
have imagined, most of these suggestions
never made their way into Cinebear 03's
official response. But it's undeniable
that these group chats played a role in
not only feeding her ideas, but also
emboldening her and convincing her that
her actions were not anywhere near as
severe as the general response from the
internet was leading her to believe. I
won't be going much deeper into the
concerted behind-the-scenes efforts to
help Cine Bear 03, but if you want more
coverage of this group chat and some of
the weird power struggles that emerged
within it, there are others who have
gone much deeper into it than I have in
this brief overview. However, as it
turns out, not a single member of this
ragtag band of misfits was the whitest
of Cineber 3's knights. Rather, that
honor belonged to another. And if you
kept up with the City Barrow 3 situation
in any capacity, you'll likely know just
who I'm talking about. Enter Just a
Robot, aka Jar, an art commentary
creator who once boasted more than
200,000 subscribers. According to Jar,
after witnessing Kumo quote unquote
beating a few people in debates about
Cinebear 03's actions and about how her
confession could have been the result of
coercion by Birdie, Jar decided he
needed to help Cine Bear clear her name.
As a result, he would get into direct
contact with her, and this unholy union
would result in some of the most ghastly
and cringe-inducing messages I've ever
seen. But none of this would be revealed
until much later. For now, all that was
publicly known was that Cine Bear may or
may not have been working on a comeback
video, though all there was to back that
up was Birdie's word on Twitter. That is
until September 30th, 2024 when just 15
days after her confession was uploaded,
Cinebear 03 deleted it and uploaded in
its place a new response titled My
Response Part One.
From the beginning, the intention of
this video was clear. Cinebear states
from the offset that she no longer
believed her relationship with Eno
constituted grooming. Rather, she makes
the claim that she had made her
confession under duress, having been
coaxed and guilted into it by the people
around her, namely Birdie. Perhaps this
is why she saw fit to dedicate more than
half of this video to seemingly airing
out every single grievance that she had
ever had with Birdie, including things
like details about their personal
finances and Birdie's autistic need to
consume specific products. No, I'm not
joking. These are actual points she
brings up in her response video to
grooming allegations. However, Cine Bear
does take around 14 minutes of the video
to attempt to convince the audience that
what she had done did not meet the
textbook definition of the word
grooming. And in order to support this
claim, she pulls up a list of examples
of actions predators supposedly take
when grooming children and attempts to
explain how none of them applied to her
specific relationship with Eno. I won't
be going through Cinebear's rebuttal for
each and every one of these examples and
how she thought they did not match up
with her own actions. However, I will
list a few of them as well as some
issues people had with what she had to
say. For example, in response to the
part of the grooming definition, which
states that the predator will often
attempt to educate the child on sexual
topics they might not be familiar with,
Cinebear claims that she only talked to
Anno about quote sat masochism and like
sadistic fantasies, not really sex. She
then immediately backtracks and says
that sex was actually brought up in
their conversations, but it was never
her intention to quote unquote educate
him on the topic. None of this was
perceived as a particularly strong
defense by the audience, with many
stating that in their eyes, discussing
extremely specific sexual fantasies like
these with a minor was just as badass,
if not worse, than discussing the topic
of sex itself. Cinebear also went on to
state that she did not intentionally
isolate Eno or build a trusting
relationship with him because Eno was
already isolated and seemed to
implicitly trust her before they started
speaking because she was a large creator
he looked up to. Statements like these
were also picked apart by viewers of the
video, as many didn't exactly seem
swayed by Cinebear's admission that the
minor she was speaking to
inappropriately had been isolated and
implicitly trusted her as soon as they
began talking. Cinebear would go on to
admit that she did frequently ask Eno to
make things for her, including a vague
and unnamed comic that she claimed she
would not try to defend or justify. This
admission confirms the claims made in
the document that she had been
encouraging Eno to create art in line
with the Sato masochistic fantasies that
they discussed. By far the most surreal
moment of this defense actually comes
courtesy of Kumo himself. Cinebear 03
name drops Kumo within this video,
referring to him as someone who is quote
very critical of child predators, and
she stated that he had told her that
what she did wasn't grooming at all. In
fact, he likened it to quote, "Locker
room girl talk." In response, one
particularly insightful commenter wrote,
"Two girls, you being 20 and the other
being a ninth grader," which I think
does a good job of conveying how
atrocious this defense sounded to most
viewers. I would also note the
discrepancy between the image of two
Stacies gossiping about the neighborhood
Chad and an adult sending a child
explicit content and asking them to draw
artwork that fits in with their SATA
masochistic fantasies since that seems
slightly different to me. But once
again, what do I know? Overall, Cinear
3's retelling of events in this video
seems to generally agree with the
document Anno had made about her. If you
recall, the very first page of the
document clarifies that Eno was never
under the impression Cine Bear wanted to
date him. He seemed to be referring to
grooming in the sense that Cinebear was
trying to expose him to and normalize
sexual concepts and fantasies he
shouldn't be exposed to and asking him
to engage in these fantasies with her.
And most believe that after seeing her
defense of herself, she had failed to
defend herself against these claims. Her
main point in this section shows a
fixation on whether or not what she did
meets the definition of the word
grooming, which in my opinion was a
losing battle from the very beginning.
Not only are there vastly varying
definitions of this word across the
internet, but what Ciney Bear admits to
doing within this more collective and
defensive response to the allegations
against her was easily enough for most
to condemn her, regardless of the word
they were going to use to describe her
actions. But if you'll recall, less than
half of this video was actually
dedicated to addressing the allegations,
with the rest being relegated to
discussing Birdie, his conduct, and the
fallout left behind after his video was
posted. In terms of Birdie's video, Cine
Bear claimed that its intention was to
make the situation more about Birdie
than about Eno, with the end goal of
making quote a ton of money that isn't
even meant to help the victim. And I
found this quote to be of particular
interest because yes, she does refer to
Eno as the quote unquote victim here.
But I digress. She also called Bird's
GoFundMe a scam, specifically citing the
sexual allegation he had levied against
her. She stated it should be clear to
anyone who listened to what Birdie said
in his video that he retracted his
consent in post after the uh touching
had occurred. She even went so far as to
say she believed this accusation could
constitute slander against her. Now, as
a mentioned, we will discuss Birdie's
conduct in more depth later because many
would come to agree that his behavior in
this situation and others was worthy of
condemnation. However, at the time
Cinebear made these points, they didn't
go over very well. most likely because
they were accompanied by her doubling
down on and attempting to defend actions
viewed by many as extremely degenerate.
The last thing I will note is an
extremely surreal segment of this video
in which Cinebear directly calls out
specific creators that had reacted to
her confession, including names like
Turkey Tom and Chud Logic. In this
section, she questions whether or not
people would be so harsh on her if all
of their online activity and Discord
messages were leaked to the public,
insinuating that these creators are
guilty of something similar to sending
degenerate content to minors and
coaching them to engage with their
fantasies. Call me crazy, but I'm pretty
sure Turkey Tom has never done anything
even close to what Cinebear admits to in
this video. But if he has, I might need
to unfriend him because that's not very
skitty at all. In all honesty, I think
that in making this argument, Cine Bear
may have inadvertently alluded to just
how normalized her own behavior had
become in her mind to the point that she
was convinced everyone criticizing her
must have done something like this in
the past when the obvious reality of the
situation is that this behavior is seen
by the average person as extremely
deplorable. And as much as she might
have thought blindly hurling allegations
at everyone calling her out would make
her look better, I don't think it had
the intended effect. Ultimately, this
video was received quite poorly, if you
can even imagine that. The comment
section was filled with people pointing
out many of the things I just addressed,
and there were multiple videos produced
immediately afterwards that sought to
dissect the points Cine Bear had made
within it and advise people in the
audience to not let her return to the
internet. Following this horrendous
reception, things were silent for a bit
from Cinebear and her allies, at least
publicly. As would be revealed later,
there was a significant amount of
turbulence occurring behind the scenes,
but I'll get to that in just a second.
In the meantime, even though nearly 300
cumulative pages of Google documents had
been published accusing Cinebear of
inappropriate interactions with minors,
another document was about to be
released. Although this one was kept to
a mercifully short 12 pages. On October
1st, 2024, a day after Cinebear's second
response video went up, Laurel posted to
Twitter claiming to have encountered yet
another person who Ciney Bear had
exchanged inappropriate messages with
this supposedly occurring a few years
ago. After continuing to post about this
situation for the coming days, Laurel
would apparently get into contact with
the other person themselves. And on
October 9th, 2024, they would tweet out
a document titled Cine Do. I won't be
going as indepth on this document as the
other two, but it was different from the
previous documents in that it did state
Cinebear had been seeking out a romantic
relationship with the author, which led
to their interactions becoming very
intimate, including a lot of explicit
content exchanged between Cinebear when
she was an adult and the author when
they were 15 years old. However, the
document also clarifies that Cine Bear
had been a minor when the two of them
had met with her being 17 whilst the
author was 14. As per usual, I am not
here to pass judgment on these
allegations. However, I did want to
bring them up as they are a part of the
story, but with that being said, I did
mention before that there was turbulence
behind the scenes in Cinebear 03's camp.
If you'll recall, Cine Bear was speaking
with two main parties while creating her
response to the allegations. Just a
robot and the group chat featuring
creators like Kumo and Romantic Goblin.
As it turns out, the latter was unaware
of Cinebear's correspondence with the
former. However, after they discovered
it, things did not end well. At some
point after the publishing of the third
document, Kumo was made aware of the
fact that Cinebear 03 was going to Just
a Robot for help. Not only receiving
encouragement and reassurance from him,
but also working together with him on a
video that he was in the process of
making, which defended her against the
allegations and sought to restore her
image while putting more scrutiny on
Birdie. Shortly after learning of this
collaboration's existence, Kumo decided
for one reason or another that he could
no longer support Cinebear 03. The
reason he provided in the Cine Bear
Defense Force group chat for his
condemnation of Cinebear was that after
the release of her second video, he had
finally seen a specific unnamed DM that
Cinebear had sent Eno, which apparently
convinced him he could no longer
publicly defend her. This seems like an
intriguing reason because Romantic
Goblin states immediately afterwards
that the DM in question had been one of
the first ones Cine Bear had shown the
group, meaning it should have been well
known to Kumo before this point. Due to
this flimsy logic, people have since
speculated that Kumo actually left the
chat and disavowed Cinebear in a jealous
fit after discovering she was also going
to just a robot for help in this
situation, seeking the comfort of his uh
far larger subscriber count as compared
to Kumo's. But as I said, this is just
speculation. For all we know, Kumo did
truly regret his actions and find it in
himself to condemn Cinebear after weeks
of helping her behind the scenes and
debating people on her behalf, but
there's no way to know this for sure.
Kuma would eventually have his YouTube
channel deleted, presumably due to the
backlash received from this situation.
But before he left the internet, Kuma
would do two things. First, he would
participate in a frankly very hard to
listen to Discord call in which he and a
few others turn on Cinebear and tell her
that they can no longer defend her
actions. And second, he would receive a
draft of just a robot's video defending
Cinebear 3 that he had sent around the
community in order to get feedback on
it. And on October 13th, 2024, Kuma
would leak this draft to the public,
leading Jar to panic and release the
video on his own channel as well. The
fallout of this video would be
catastrophic for Just a Robot's career,
leading to a massive amount of negative
attention on his channel, which resulted
in not only the loss of more than 10,000
subscribers, but also an influx of
scrutiny that led to various other
things about his past being viewed
through a new lens. Now, Jar's video was
bound to be contentious from the start.
After all, he was sticking his neck out
to defend someone who had been
continuously lampuned for nearly a month
straight by that point. But I'm sure he
couldn't have anticipated that the
response would be anywhere near as
visceral as it was. And I'll quickly
address here a few reasons that the
video was received so poorly. To start,
many found it baffling how Just a Robot
would incessantly draw comparisons
between the allegations against Cinebear
and seemingly unrelated situations like
that of Pyroynical, who had been accused
of grooming in the past. It seems as
though the point Just a Robot was trying
to make was that the internet had quote
unquote forgiven Pyrocynical and it
should do the same with Cinebear 03.
However, he himself acknowledges that
there are many differences between the
situations that could easily affect how
people thought about them. So, this
point was ultimately perceived as him
grasping for anything that could make
Cine Bear's situation more palatable to
the public. Throughout the video, Jar
also makes a plethora of extremely
questionable statements, like when he
referred to Cinebear as quote, "a
cummeror but not a groomer." Or when he
says, and I quote, "It turns out that
the minor was the one being
inappropriate first." I wish I was
joking. These are some Yandere Devier
statements here. Furthermore, just like
Cinebear, Just a Robot spent a lot of
time discussing how inappropriately he
thought Birdie had handled the
allegations, bringing up the overall
unprofessionalism, the clear bias, and
the potential ulterior motives that
might have been behind his GoFundMe
campaign. He also scoffs at some of
Bird's tweets that suggested he felt
unsafe around Cinebear, claiming that he
had no reason to feel this way. As we'll
see in just a bit, Jar may have been a
little ahead of his time when it came to
these kinds of sentiments, as many have
since turned on Birdie and begun levying
a lot of these same criticisms towards
him, as well as looking into his past
once more. However, something that irked
a lot of people looking into this
situation was that Brody's motives and
conduct are a completely separate issue
from whether or not one believes
Cinebear 03 is worthy of condemnation.
It's easy to forget when looking at the
situation from the outside, but Birdie
is not the only one who was making these
accusations against Cinebear. And
although it is certainly important to
call out his misconduct, I believe it is
possible to do so without conflating
those call outs with the defense of
Cinebear 03, which is exactly what Just
Robot did. A large section of Jar's
video was dedicated to an interview in
which he brought Cinebear into a Discord
call so that he could effectively tell
her that she wasn't guilty in between
making extremely uncomfortable
statements. A message containing the
pre-prepared questions Jar had sent
Cinebear in advance for her to prepare
for this interview showed that multiple
of the quote unquote questions were
literally just statements saying things
like no I do not think you are innocent
in all this but I don't think groomer or
predator is the right thing to call you.
The fact that a lot of these were just
Jar declaring that Cine Bear wasn't as
bad as the internet thought she was did
not exactly bode well for his
journalistic integrity in this situation
as many perceived the interview segment
to be a particularly egregious series of
softballs meant to paint Cinebear in a
more positive light. Shortly after Just
a Robot's video went up, a drama
YouTuber named Chudlogic decided to
review it live on stream. And while he
was watching, Sunny Bear03 dumped the
logs of all her messages with Just a
Robot that were exchanged prior to the
video's creation. Many found these logs
to be extremely embarrassing and
inappropriate, as it truly seemed as
though Just a Robot was doing everything
in his power to forge a closer bond with
Cinebear while in the process of making
his video defending her against grooming
allegations. Not only would he send
completely unprompted quote unquote
jokes along the lines of asking, "Want
to see my cock?" before sending a
picture of a rooster or replying to a
picture of her cat by saying, "Nice
pussy." But he would also apparently ask
her to get in a voice chat with him and
talk to him until he fell asleep. He
would also apparently randomly send
voice messages in which he bemons how
hard he was working to make his video
defending her as if he wanted to impress
her. And he would further show his bias
by saying things like, "You are a human,
so we are all monsters, but you aren't a
groomer." And, "Well, I'm better than
everyone. I don't think you're crazy."
Making it clear that Jar was immensely
compromised before going into the
production of this video. Perhaps
because of this personal bias, Just a
Robot seems to have used Cinebear as a
trustworthy resource while researching
for this video, as can be seen in this
set of screenshots, which apparently
depict him asking her for evidence to
back up part of her argument and then
presenting what she gave him as fact in
his video. Even if it wasn't just a
robot's intention to create an unbiased
video, many still took issue with this
very clear conflict of interest, as this
was a very sensitive situation in which
at least some degree of objectivity is
important. The leaked messages later led
Shot Logic to press Just a Robot on the
motives behind his video as the two
debated live on stream. And
unsurprisingly, Jar would almost
immediately fold, admitting that he
happened to have a sexual interest in
Cinebear. But he attempted to explain
this away by saying it was only natural
that he felt that way because he's a
heterosexual male and Cinebear is a
woman. Uh, I personally am a straight
male and I am only attracted to one
single girl, so I'm not exactly sure
what Just a Robot thought this would
prove, and many found this line of
thought completely ludicrous. In this
stream, Jar also admitted to not having
reviewed the messages that Cinebear 03
had sent to Eno, which many found
extremely baffling, as he had gone out
of his way to defend someone accused of
grooming a minor without fully reading
the messages exchanged between that
person and the minor in question. And I
don't really think I need to explain why
that is extremely illconceived and
irresponsible for someone with more than
200,000 subscribers. Overall, I think
Jar's coverage of the situation can be
summed up in this image, which depicts
him responding to a comment telling him
that Cine Bear was probably lying to him
to make herself look better. In
response, Jar says, "Sure, she could be
lying to me, but why should we take Jack
at its word? Obviously, the correct
mindset when approaching serious
allegations is to not uncritically
believe either side." While again I can
understand where just a robot is coming
from when he says we shouldn't
immediately take birdie at his word. He
is very clearly doing the exact same
thing but with Cine Bear instead. He
doesn't want people to believe the
allegations without doing the research.
But he appears to have believed Cine
Bear's defense without doing his own
research. And this led to the creation
of a video that essentially makes a
mockery of serious allegations.
Ultimately this whole ordeal did not end
well for Just a Robot. Over the next few
weeks, he was brutally lambasted over
and over for this video and his flimsy
justifications for it. And people also
began to look into his past, going so
far as to levy various allegations of
misconduct against him. He would
eventually respond to everything in
January of this year, including giving
more of an in-depth explanation on why
he embroiled himself in the Cine Bear
situation in the first place, as well as
responding to the fart fetish
allegations and the Jaden Animations
allegations. And no, I'm not joking
about either of those. You can check out
the video yourself if you want to, but I
won't be going any further into the Jar
saga. Overall, it's been long enough to
safely say Jory's career is basically
dead, and it seems like he'll be known
as the guy who defended an alleged
groomer and folded under literally zero
pressure for basically the rest of his
life.
Witnessing the complete obliteration of
Jar's video defending her, as well as
the dissection of her own defense video
seemingly had a strong impact on
Cinebear 03. As just a few days after
Jar's video went up on October 17th,
2024, Cinebear would delete her second
response video and post to her community
tab explaining her reasoning in doing
so. According to her, she had acted too
quickly and her emotions had led her to
focus her energy on being angry at the
people who had hurt her instead of
focusing on her own actions. She once
again states that she would be going
into therapy and that she would not be
returning to her platform. and she
claims she was done blaming other people
for her situation. The comments under
this post are, as is to be expected by
this point, almost unanimously negative,
with many claiming that Cinebear's
deplorable behaviors and her continual
attempts at defending herself, even
after admitting what she had done was
wrong was something that could never be
forgiven. For about a month, Cinebear 03
would indeed continue to be silent,
seemingly not touching her channel or
any of her social media pages. However,
about a month later, this would change
as out of nowhere, the Cinebear 03
channel would see the upload of a new
video titled Where Is My Cat? But in
order for us to understand this video,
we're going to have to rewind a bit. On
October 19th, 2024, which for timeline
purposes is right after Cine Bear took
down her second response video and
posted her final apology on her
community tab, Birdie had claimed on
Twitter that Ciney Bear had stolen his
cat Scorp from him and insinuated that
she was mistreating and neglecting the
cats they owned while living together.
He also claimed that he had entered
Cinebear 03's apartment while she was at
work and noticed that it was very dirty,
which he used to further imply that Cine
Bear was abusing their other cat,
Stupid, whom he had left with her when
moving out. However, in early November,
Cinebear would upload the
affforementioned video, Where is My Cat?
claiming that Birdie was the one who had
stolen Squirtp and that the cat was
being held by one of Bernie's friends,
who Cinebear refers to as Izzy. Cine
Bear also claimed that Birdie was unfit
to take care of any animals because he
couldn't even take care of himself, two
things he had apparently demonstrated
while they were living together. She
cites various mental and physical
disabilities Bernie had been claiming to
suffer from as evidence of this, as well
as the fact that he had apparently used
these excuses as to why he didn't take
care of the cats back when they were
living together. According to Cinebear,
she sent Izzy a legal notice to force
them to return her cat, but to no avail.
She also included within the video a
recording of her confronting Izzy, in
which Izzy can be heard claiming that
Squirtp is her cat now and that Cine
Bear had no legal right to her because
she quote bought the cat for Birdie,
meaning that Birdie should supposedly
have legal ownership of Scorp despite
not being the one who adopted her. A few
days after the upload of this video,
someone going by Puppy Crayon Box, who
claimed to be one of Cinebear 03's real
life friends, would begin tweeting about
the situation, stating that Cinebear,
Izzy, and a few others who knew the both
of them had finally been able to sit
down and have an actual conversation
about how to move on in this situation
instead of, you know, making Twitter
threads and call out videos about each
other on the internet as if they weren't
deciding the fate of a literal real life
animal. As a result of this discussion,
it seems as though it was decided that
Ciney Bear would potentially take legal
action to ensure that Scorp was returned
to her. But regardless of whether or not
she did, it was decided Birdie should
not be the one to receive Scorp unless
he could somehow prove that he was
financially, emotionally, and mentally
stable enough to care for her. In the
event that Cinebear did not take legal
action and Birdie was not fit to care
for Squirp, it was decided that she
would be renamed and rehomed. Though
this situation was unclear for a pretty
significant period of time, it seems
that as of May of this year, both of the
cats had been returned to Cinebear 03.
Izzy, who goes by Queen XIV on Twitter,
was apparently temporarily granted
ownership of Scorp by Cinebear following
the events recounted in the Where is My
Cat video. However, in a recent document
she made describing what occurred
between her and Birdie in the time since
the initial drama started, Izzy claims
she returned Scorp to Cinebear on April
28th of this year. Again, I'm not
involved in this situation, and I don't
know how much to trust these people's
words. So, all I can really say is that
I hope the cats are being treated well
because they obviously have nothing to
do with this terminally online drama.
However, ironically enough, despite
having nothing to do with it, it was the
way that these cats situation was
handled that contributed to a massive
crash landing on the end of someone who
had been precariously perched to top the
good graces of the internet for a while.
It's time we discuss Birdie's dive bomb.
Although the general sentiment on the
internet for the preceding two months
had been very pro birdie, likely due to
the way that he had been able to portray
himself as one of the quote unquote
victims of Cinebear 03, who was being
almost universally condemned, the Scorp
situation and Bird's mishandling of it
managed to swing the eyeire of the
internet back in his direction. As I
mentioned earlier in this video, Birdie
is no stranger to online controversy.
Almost the entire time that he has been
posting to the internet, he has been
seen as a controversial figure for one
reason or another. As such, in
retrospect, it seems almost inevitable
that his newly found positive reputation
would eventually be tarnished once
again, and this is exactly what happened
in the aftermath of the cat situation.
Not only did many online who had never
even heard of Birdie before this
situation start to catch up on some of
the things he had done in the past, such
as allegations of misconduct with his
pet ferret at some point years ago. But
people who had already known of his past
also began to take a closer look at
things that many had previously
dismissed as having been explained by
Birdie in the video he produced in April
of 2024 when he returned to the internet
after a long hiatus. The video was
received very positively at the time
with many feeling as though they had
judged Birdie too harshly for his past
actions as he claimed that many of the
things he had done had been the result
of trauma, mental illness, or of him
being groomed by multiple different
people. However, now that people were
viewing him and his actions through a
less charitable lens, some of them began
to poke holes in these explanations.
Furthermore, all new allegations have
since surfaced as well, with some going
so far as to claim that Birdie himself
is a groomer who has spoken
inappropriately with minors behind the
scenes. I won't be going extremely
indepth on the allegations against
Birdie in particular, because I didn't
do exhaustive research on what they are
or what the evidence backing them is.
The one allegation I will be covering is
one that was levied against Birdie in
December of 2024 because it is directly
relevant to the storyline of this video.
This allegation claimed that Birdie had
been misappropriating the money he had
earned from his GoFundMe campaign.
Birdie claimed in his video and on the
GoFundMe website that he needed the
$10,000 to apply for an apartment, pay
rent, get groceries, buy a plane ticket,
have his belongings shipped to him, get
supplies and food for the cat he was
planning on bringing with him, and keep
his prescriptions for his
anti-depressants and antiscychotics.
However, it would later be claimed on
Twitter by Izzy that when Birdie
received the funds from the GoFundMe in
October of 2024, he had immediately
started purchasing various quote unquote
pony packages, which I presume could
only contain My Little Pony merchandise
based on their name using the money, all
while complaining about supposedly
starving to death while actually having
food in the fridge of wherever he was
staying. Now, in the time since these
allegations were made, someone claiming
to be Birdie's quote unquote temporary
PR responded to the allegations of
misallocated funds by stating that the
money used to buy said pony packages was
actually from commissions Birdie had
completed while on the move, not the
GoFundMe proceeds. If this is true, that
would obviously change the nature of the
accusations, although many have wondered
if it even makes it better at all.
Because remember, Birdie was supposedly
in such dire straits that he needed to
raise $10,000 off the back of grooming
allegations. If at any point after the
GoFundMe money paid out, Birdie was
still buying My Little Pony merchandise,
one would have to wonder exactly how
much he needed the money in the first
place. But again, I was not personally
involved and I don't know these people.
I'm only going off of what's publicly
available to me. If there's something
I'm missing, please feel free to let me
know in the comments and I'll try to
make a correction. Regardless, as of
this point in time, Birdie has evidently
become fed up with the negative
attention against him, and he actually
went silent back in November of last
year after making the following tweet.
Okay, I'm sick of being this week's hot,
juicy drama and having the
dehumanization and demonization of
myself so widely normalized again.
People are scraping the bottom of the
barrel for rumors. I'm leaving for a
bit. Everyone get your together. This is
just like 2017. Time is a flat circle.
As can be seen by looking at the
analytics of this tweet, it's accured
more than 2.6 million views, but boasts
a poultry 2,000 likes. I think these
numbers demonstrate just how far this
situation has escalated, going beyond
the normal communities that would be
engaging with it. And despite how the
drama was going initially, Birdie is now
being exposed to more negative attention
than he probably ever would have
beforehand. Regardless, with that being
said, we're actually nearing the end of
this monolithic story. So, it's time to
wrap up a few loose ends and get to my
conclusion.
With so much discussion of the side
characters in this story, it might seem
as though I've forgotten the actual
focus of this video, and that's a fair
assumption. This video is supposed to be
about the career and downfall of Cineber
3, after all. But one of the most
interesting parts of this situation, in
my opinion, is the sheer amount of side
plots and auxiliary players who spent
this entire time jostling to make the
whole drama all about themselves.
Regardless, let's get back to Cinebear
herself because I do have one last
update on what she's been up to amidst
all this external drama. On December
10th, 2024, a tweet was posted by Puppy
Cranbox advertising a new Cinebear 03
Discord server where people can
apparently commission her to draw art
for them, but in a way that involves
minimal communication with her through
moderators.
Obviously, people quickly took issue
with this given Cinebear's previous
habits over Discord. As far as I can
tell, the Discord server remains up,
much to the dismay of many who believe
that Cine Bear should have no right to
continue benefiting from her large
platform. The next development is a bit
more of a positive one, though. On
January 12th, 2025, Laurel posted an
update on Eno, stating that he had just
turned 15 and was doing very well and
had lots of friends and support backing
him up. I know that doesn't really
advance the story, but I wanted to
include it in case anyone was wondering
what happened to him after this whole
drama went down. Also, in January, Just
a Robot made his response video to
essentially everything people were
saying about him online, which I already
addressed, so you can check that out if
you want to hear his side of the story.
I'll even include a link in the
description of this video because I'm
just that generous. Overall, it truly
seems to me that so many people that
involve themselves in this situation
truly just do not deserve the online
careers or platforms which allow them to
influence and get into contact with
potentially hundreds of thousands of
people. As for Cineber herself, at least
in terms of her public-f facing online
career, she appears to have lost
everything. She has made and
subsequently disowned not one but two
responses to the situation and now seems
to have given up on her internet
presence entirely. All of her bridges
have been burned. Her reputation is in
tatters and she has been called
everything from a groomer to a predator.
All of which has seemingly been enough
to bully her off the internet, even
leading her to wipe all of her YouTube
videos. Although very recently she
brought them back up, so I'm not exactly
sure if that indicates anything about
her future plans. The messages that
Cinebear exchanged with Eno are
disgusting and so far beyond
inappropriate that I completely
understand the many people who never
want her to be able to get into contact
with children over the internet again.
Though I don't know for sure, I have a
feeling that the fact that Cinebear 03
and other people like her think having
these kinds of interactions with
children is acceptable is a result of a
truly diseased way of living in which
they become extremely detached from
reality and live entirely online. losing
sight of real life to the extent that
they don't even see a problem with
speaking to people that are closer to
half their age than their actual age
about degenerate topics and who will
defend that prospect to their dying
breath. If you wouldn't talk to a real
child about these topics in person, if
you wouldn't approach them directly and
ask them to draw deplorable content for
you or read your porn out loud to you,
then I don't understand why you think
it's okay to spread your degenerate
gooning to them behind closed doors
using the pseudo anonymity of the
internet as a veil to hide the true
extent of your actions from both your
audience and ultimately from yourself.
It's one thing to have internet friends
and internet fans, and I don't see a
problem with either of those things. You
can even theoretically be friendly with
young fans in a healthy way through a
community discord or something along
those lines, as many creators have done
in the past without it getting out of
hand. But I think that's something that
clearly did not happen here. Regardless
of how much Cynthia and others who have
defended her actions want to quibble
about definitions, I personally think
she's a detestable loser who has been
making the mistake of oversharing on the
internet for years. And oversharing an
event animation is one thing, but
teaching children that idolize you, to
think like you and act like you when it
comes to your degenerate fantasies is a
shade too far. And I think we can all
agree that this is something that should
never happen. I truly hope Cine Bear is
following through with what she
promised. speaking to a therapist and
getting off of social media forever. And
although she promised to do those exact
things in her initial apology video, and
that didn't really seem to pan out, I
hope she can finally take accountability
for what she has done and never touch
the internet again. But as I always say,
what do I know? I've just been your
host, Jormy 49. What a ride and good
night. If you've stuck around this far,
consider liking the video and
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ridiculous amount of time and it was
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