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You know, normally I love it when my
 

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You know, normally I love it when my
autistic obsession with the brony

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autistic obsession with the brony
 

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autistic obsession with the brony
community breaks into more mainstream

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community breaks into more mainstream
 

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community breaks into more mainstream
commentary, but this particular drama is

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commentary, but this particular drama is
 

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commentary, but this particular drama is
one that I very nearly didn't cover at

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one that I very nearly didn't cover at
 

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one that I very nearly didn't cover at
all. Because when the allegations made

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all. Because when the allegations made
 

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all. Because when the allegations made
by I Love Kim Possible a lot against

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by I Love Kim Possible a lot against
 

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by I Love Kim Possible a lot against
Saber Spark dropped, I was already aware

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Saber Spark dropped, I was already aware
 

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Saber Spark dropped, I was already aware
of their connection to the wider Black

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of their connection to the wider Black
 

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of their connection to the wider Black
Griffin drama, which I'll be honest with

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Griffin drama, which I'll be honest with
 

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Griffin drama, which I'll be honest with
you is a complete bloody headache. Now,

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you is a complete bloody headache. Now,
 

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you is a complete bloody headache. Now,
while this video won't go into detail

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while this video won't go into detail
 

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while this video won't go into detail
about those allegations, understanding

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about those allegations, understanding
 

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about those allegations, understanding
that wider drama, which revolves around

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that wider drama, which revolves around
 

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that wider drama, which revolves around
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and indeed hinges upon persuading
 

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and indeed hinges upon persuading
somebody's wife that their now husband

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somebody's wife that their now husband
 

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somebody's wife that their now husband
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groomed them, is unfortunately the only
 

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groomed them, is unfortunately the only
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way to actually explain why any of this
 

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way to actually explain why any of this
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happened at all. So, while my long-term
 

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happened at all. So, while my long-term
dodging of this story might make me a

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dodging of this story might make me a
 

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dodging of this story might make me a
bit of a Johnny come lately, I've put in

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bit of a Johnny come lately, I've put in
 

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bit of a Johnny come lately, I've put in
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work over the last week or so to really
 

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work over the last week or so to really
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unpick what's been happening behind the
 

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unpick what's been happening behind the
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scenes to give you all a clear view of
 

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scenes to give you all a clear view of
the insanity that's been occurring. And

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the insanity that's been occurring. And
 

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the insanity that's been occurring. And
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I do mean insanity, because what I have
 

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I do mean insanity, because what I have
for you today is a drama that stretches

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for you today is a drama that stretches
 

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for you today is a drama that stretches
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back over a decade, all the way to the
 

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back over a decade, all the way to the
animation analysis community. I've heard

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animation analysis community. I've heard
 

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animation analysis community. I've heard
your house described as the home for

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your house described as the home for
 

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your house described as the home for
Waywood bronies, to be fair to her.

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Waywood bronies, to be fair to her.
 

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Waywood bronies, to be fair to her.
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Like,
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yeah, it was that way for a long time
 

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yeah, it was that way for a long time
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until I I got over it. I I'm kind of
 

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until I I got over it. I I'm kind of
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fascinated just hearing stories about
 

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fascinated just hearing stories about
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her at cons. Was she just always this
 

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her at cons. Was she just always this
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crazy Rachel? Uh, crazy isn't the right
 

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crazy Rachel? Uh, crazy isn't the right
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word. Entitled is the right word.
 

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word. Entitled is the right word.
Clueless is the right word. So, welcome

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Clueless is the right word. So, welcome
 

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Clueless is the right word. So, welcome
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to the rabbit hole, ladies and
 

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to the rabbit hole, ladies and
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gentlemen. Allow me to show you what
 

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gentlemen. Allow me to show you what
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happened to all those people who used to
 

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happened to all those people who used to
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unironically refer to themselves as
 

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unironically refer to themselves as
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horse famous. Let's get into it.
 

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horse famous. Let's get into it.
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Real quick,
but sacrificing putting children at risk

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but sacrificing putting children at risk
 

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but sacrificing putting children at risk
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because you don't want to publicly speak
 

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because you don't want to publicly speak
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out about this behavior. Your fans
 

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out about this behavior. Your fans
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aren't your peers. Something better
 

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aren't your peers. Something better
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could come out of this if you [\h__\h]
 

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could come out of this if you [\h__\h]
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talk to us.
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Firstly, given that this is a drama
 

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Firstly, given that this is a drama
finding its origin points back in 2012,

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finding its origin points back in 2012,
 

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finding its origin points back in 2012,
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as you can imagine, there are a fair
 

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as you can imagine, there are a fair
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amount of moving parts and various
 

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amount of moving parts and various
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parties who are involved. But my
 

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parties who are involved. But my
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interest lies almost solely, at least at
 

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interest lies almost solely, at least at
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the moment, in the allegations being
 

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the moment, in the allegations being
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leveled against Saber Spark and frankly
 

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leveled against Saber Spark and frankly
how they were platformed in the first

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how they were platformed in the first
 

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how they were platformed in the first
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place. So, we're actually going to begin
 

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place. So, we're actually going to begin
on May the 1st this year when I love Kim

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on May the 1st this year when I love Kim
 

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on May the 1st this year when I love Kim
Possible a lot, also known as KP,

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Possible a lot, also known as KP,
released a video she'd been working on

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released a video she'd been working on
 

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released a video she'd been working on
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for the last several months on DA Games.
 

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for the last several months on DA Games.
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Now, KP has been knocking around YouTube
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for a significant period of time with a
 

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for a significant period of time with a
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channel dating back to 2007, though
 

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channel dating back to 2007, though
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she'd reached the height of her
 

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she'd reached the height of her
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popularity in 2014, having started to
 

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popularity in 2014, having started to
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gain traction in the brony community in
 

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gain traction in the brony community in
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2013.
Now, I have a soft spot for this little

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community because it's produced some
 

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community because it's produced some
fantastic dramas over the years. Regular

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fantastic dramas over the years. Regular
 

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fantastic dramas over the years. Regular
viewers will be aware of my obsession

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viewers will be aware of my obsession
 

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viewers will be aware of my obsession
with a creator from this community known

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with a creator from this community known
 

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with a creator from this community known
as Toon Critic, who was caught trying to

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as Toon Critic, who was caught trying to
 

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as Toon Critic, who was caught trying to
solicit nudes from a minor through My

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solicit nudes from a minor through My
 

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solicit nudes from a minor through My
Little Pony erotic roleplay. A brony

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Little Pony erotic roleplay. A brony
 

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Little Pony erotic roleplay. A brony
reviewer named Toon Critic Y2K, a person

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reviewer named Toon Critic Y2K, a person
 

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reviewer named Toon Critic Y2K, a person
with whom I and many others have worked,

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with whom I and many others have worked,
 

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with whom I and many others have worked,
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has been engaging in sexually explicit
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chats with an underageed
 

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chats with an underageed
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girl. Many of us reacted with shock,
 

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girl. Many of us reacted with shock,
confusion, anger, and sadness. While

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confusion, anger, and sadness. While
 

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confusion, anger, and sadness. While
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Cartoon Analysis as a content bracket
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has expanded over the years, its origin
 

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has expanded over the years, its origin
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and indeed its popularity can firmly be
 

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and indeed its popularity can firmly be
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attributed to the insane popularity of
 

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attributed to the insane popularity of
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My Little Pony, particularly amongst a
 

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My Little Pony, particularly amongst a
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certain demographic. This is of course
 

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certain demographic. This is of course
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also true of DA Games and Saber Spark.
 

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also true of DA Games and Saber Spark.
And the footage I'm using at the moment

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And the footage I'm using at the moment
 

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And the footage I'm using at the moment
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is from Saber Spark's own documentary on
 

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is from Saber Spark's own documentary on
the Brony fandom, which he made to

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the Brony fandom, which he made to
 

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the Brony fandom, which he made to
celebrate the community. While this all

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celebrate the community. While this all
 

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celebrate the community. While this all
sounds very pleasant and nice, it

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sounds very pleasant and nice, it
 

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sounds very pleasant and nice, it
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probably won't come as a surprise to
 

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probably won't come as a surprise to
many of you that the history of the

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many of you that the history of the
 

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many of you that the history of the
Brony fandom is basically a smorgus

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Brony fandom is basically a smorgus
 

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Brony fandom is basically a smorgus
board of allegations. And while this may

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board of allegations. And while this may
 

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board of allegations. And while this may
sound slightly callous, it doesn't

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sound slightly callous, it doesn't
 

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sound slightly callous, it doesn't
surprise me to watch this current drama

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surprise me to watch this current drama
 

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surprise me to watch this current drama
unfold in the way that it has. Allow me

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unfold in the way that it has. Allow me
 

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unfold in the way that it has. Allow me
to be blunt for a second. The

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to be blunt for a second. The
 

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to be blunt for a second. The
allegations against Saber Spark and

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allegations against Saber Spark and
 

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allegations against Saber Spark and
indeed DA Games do not exist within a

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indeed DA Games do not exist within a
 

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indeed DA Games do not exist within a
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vacuum. They form part of a long-running
 

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vacuum. They form part of a long-running
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pattern for this particular fandom.
 

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pattern for this particular fandom.
Firstly, there is an inherent problem of

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Firstly, there is an inherent problem of
 

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Firstly, there is an inherent problem of
the brony demographic. We are talking

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the brony demographic. We are talking
 

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the brony demographic. We are talking
about adult men who are obsessed with a

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about adult men who are obsessed with a
 

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about adult men who are obsessed with a
child's cartoon show aimed at little

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child's cartoon show aimed at little
 

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child's cartoon show aimed at little
girls. And that particular overlap

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girls. And that particular overlap
 

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girls. And that particular overlap
attracted an awful lot of nonses into

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attracted an awful lot of nonses into
 

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attracted an awful lot of nonses into
the community. But there is a secondary

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the community. But there is a secondary
 

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the community. But there is a secondary
element which many of you will not be

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element which many of you will not be
 

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element which many of you will not be
aware of. And it's the reason that we're

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aware of. And it's the reason that we're
 

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aware of. And it's the reason that we're
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even talking about this in 2025,
 

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even talking about this in 2025,
considering it concerns events all the

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considering it concerns events all the
 

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considering it concerns events all the
way back in 2012. The brony fandom

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way back in 2012. The brony fandom
 

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way back in 2012. The brony fandom
actively encouraged people who'd gone

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actively encouraged people who'd gone
 

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actively encouraged people who'd gone
through abusive situations to forgive

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through abusive situations to forgive
 

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through abusive situations to forgive
their abusers and shut the [\h__\h] up about

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their abusers and shut the [\h__\h] up about
 

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their abusers and shut the [\h__\h] up about
it. If we withhold

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it. If we withhold
 

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it. If we withhold
forgiveness, it does not harm the

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forgiveness, it does not harm the
 

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forgiveness, it does not harm the
wrongdoer in any way.

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wrongdoer in any way.
 

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wrongdoer in any way.
I realize that forgiveness is not and

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I realize that forgiveness is not and
 

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I realize that forgiveness is not and
never was for the benefit of the

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never was for the benefit of the
 

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never was for the benefit of the
wrongdoer. It is for our own

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wrongdoer. It is for our own
 

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wrongdoer. It is for our own
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benefit. It is what enables us to
 

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benefit. It is what enables us to
finally release the anger, the

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finally release the anger, the
 

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finally release the anger, the
resentment, the hurt, the poison that

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resentment, the hurt, the poison that
 

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resentment, the hurt, the poison that
slowly turns our hearts

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slowly turns our hearts
 

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slowly turns our hearts
black. And that really wouldn't change

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black. And that really wouldn't change
 

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black. And that really wouldn't change
until 2018 when Lio Convoy came onto the

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until 2018 when Lio Convoy came onto the
 

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until 2018 when Lio Convoy came onto the
scene. Have I never mentioned that

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scene. Have I never mentioned that
 

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scene. Have I never mentioned that
before? The cartoon analysis community

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before? The cartoon analysis community
 

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before? The cartoon analysis community
is Lio Convoy's origin story. We'll come

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is Lio Convoy's origin story. We'll come
 

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is Lio Convoy's origin story. We'll come
back to this in a bit because it's

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back to this in a bit because it's
 

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back to this in a bit because it's
another piece in the puzzle which is

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another piece in the puzzle which is
 

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another piece in the puzzle which is
going to become relevant later. But the

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going to become relevant later. But the
 

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going to become relevant later. But the
relevance of that culture of silence

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relevance of that culture of silence
 

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relevance of that culture of silence
that existed explains why we're now

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that existed explains why we're now
 

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that existed explains why we're now
litigating these dramas years later

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litigating these dramas years later
 

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litigating these dramas years later
because any discussion of them at the

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because any discussion of them at the
 

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because any discussion of them at the
time would have been quickly shut down.

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time would have been quickly shut down.
 

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time would have been quickly shut down.
And it also became a bit of a trend for

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And it also became a bit of a trend for
 

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And it also became a bit of a trend for
people with pre-existing grudges to

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people with pre-existing grudges to
 

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people with pre-existing grudges to
happily run allegation stories on people

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happily run allegation stories on people
 

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happily run allegation stories on people
they didn't like with fairly flimsy

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they didn't like with fairly flimsy
 

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they didn't like with fairly flimsy
evidence. And yes, KP's video fits

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evidence. And yes, KP's video fits
 

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evidence. And yes, KP's video fits
firmly within this trend. In fact,

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firmly within this trend. In fact,
 

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firmly within this trend. In fact,
within KP's Discord, there exists an

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within KP's Discord, there exists an
 

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within KP's Discord, there exists an
archived thread of safety reports. These

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archived thread of safety reports. These
 

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archived thread of safety reports. These
safety reports are basically Google

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safety reports are basically Google
 

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safety reports are basically Google
documents on people who are problematic

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documents on people who are problematic
 

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documents on people who are problematic
within the community, be they child

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within the community, be they child
 

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within the community, be they child
groomers or just slightly annoying. The

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groomers or just slightly annoying. The
 

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groomers or just slightly annoying. The
idea being to spread awareness to the

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idea being to spread awareness to the
 

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idea being to spread awareness to the
wider community or anyone who may come

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wider community or anyone who may come
 

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wider community or anyone who may come
across these individuals. The video KP

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across these individuals. The video KP
 

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across these individuals. The video KP
was doing on DA Games was a safety

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was doing on DA Games was a safety
 

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was doing on DA Games was a safety
report, but it's probably helpful to

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report, but it's probably helpful to
 

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report, but it's probably helpful to
you, and because I don't want to pick

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you, and because I don't want to pick
 

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you, and because I don't want to pick
through a 2-hour video breaking it down,

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through a 2-hour video breaking it down,
 

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through a 2-hour video breaking it down,
to just hear from KP herself regarding

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to just hear from KP herself regarding
 

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to just hear from KP herself regarding
the timeline and motivations behind the

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the timeline and motivations behind the
 

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the timeline and motivations behind the
video, let's start um giving just a

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video, let's start um giving just a
 

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video, let's start um giving just a
brief background on how you ended up in

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brief background on how you ended up in
 

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brief background on how you ended up in
the kind of I I know you've got a fairly

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the kind of I I know you've got a fairly
 

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the kind of I I know you've got a fairly
long history with these kind of

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long history with these kind of
 

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long history with these kind of
communities anyway.

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communities anyway.
 

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communities anyway.
But why were you making a video about

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But why were you making a video about
 

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But why were you making a video about
the DEA DA group story in the first

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the DEA DA group story in the first
 

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the DEA DA group story in the first
place? Oh, wow. You don't really you

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place? Oh, wow. You don't really you
 

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place? Oh, wow. You don't really you
really don't know anything. Um

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really don't know anything. Um
 

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really don't know anything. Um
um so the original video was supposed to

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um so the original video was supposed to
 

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um so the original video was supposed to
be about um Chris. Chris was an ex

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be about um Chris. Chris was an ex
 

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be about um Chris. Chris was an ex
employee of mine that um I found out

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employee of mine that um I found out
 

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employee of mine that um I found out
made up a story about to be blunt um

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made up a story about to be blunt um
 

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made up a story about to be blunt um
jerking off to my clothes in a con and

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jerking off to my clothes in a con and
 

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jerking off to my clothes in a con and
bragging about it.

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bragging about it.
 

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bragging about it.
Um was never told that story.

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Um was never told that story.
 

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Um was never told that story.
Um a whistle a whistleblower told me it.

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Um a whistle a whistleblower told me it.
 

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Um a whistle a whistleblower told me it.
Um confronted Chris, recorded that call,

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Um confronted Chris, recorded that call,
 

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Um confronted Chris, recorded that call,
Chris admitted to it. Um contacted DA

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Chris admitted to it. Um contacted DA
 

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Chris admitted to it. Um contacted DA
Games and Saber

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Games and Saber
 

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Games and Saber
to see if they were going to do

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to see if they were going to do
 

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to see if they were going to do
anything. I contacted Saber through

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anything. I contacted Saber through
 

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anything. I contacted Saber through
through his employees cuz I don't really

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through his employees cuz I don't really
 

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through his employees cuz I don't really
like Saber, but I felt like it was fair

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like Saber, but I felt like it was fair
 

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like Saber, but I felt like it was fair
to give him a heads up. And um same with

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to give him a heads up. And um same with
 

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to give him a heads up. And um same with
DA. DA was I think all those um those

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DA. DA was I think all those um those
 

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DA. DA was I think all those um those
emails are in the video if you want to

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emails are in the video if you want to
 

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emails are in the video if you want to
like find a mirror and get them there.

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like find a mirror and get them there.
 

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like find a mirror and get them there.
But um the DA emails were essentially,

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But um the DA emails were essentially,
 

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But um the DA emails were essentially,
"Hey, seems like this is handled. Like

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"Hey, seems like this is handled. Like
 

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"Hey, seems like this is handled. Like
go away." And then I was like, well,

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go away." And then I was like, well,
 

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go away." And then I was like, well,
we're going to release this uh publicly

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we're going to release this uh publicly
 

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we're going to release this uh publicly
as a safety report, so like, do you have

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as a safety report, so like, do you have
 

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as a safety report, so like, do you have
any comment? And they started getting

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any comment? And they started getting
 

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any comment? And they started getting
really

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really
 

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really
um frazzled and they tried to

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um frazzled and they tried to
 

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um frazzled and they tried to
um use British law um

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um use British law um
 

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um use British law um
to convince me not to release it, even

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to convince me not to release it, even
 

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to convince me not to release it, even
though the laws didn't make any sense.

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though the laws didn't make any sense.
 

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though the laws didn't make any sense.
Now, I'd like to pause here for a moment

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Now, I'd like to pause here for a moment
 

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Now, I'd like to pause here for a moment
because the elements involving Chris

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because the elements involving Chris
 

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because the elements involving Chris
deserve further examination. I've now

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deserve further examination. I've now
 

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deserve further examination. I've now
heard that full call, and what was

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heard that full call, and what was
 

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heard that full call, and what was
initially presented was an edited

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initially presented was an edited
 

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initially presented was an edited
version of a much longer conversation.

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version of a much longer conversation.
 

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version of a much longer conversation.
Within this longer conversation, Chris

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Within this longer conversation, Chris
 

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Within this longer conversation, Chris
takes full accountability of his

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takes full accountability of his
 

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takes full accountability of his
actions. He apologizes repeatedly and

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actions. He apologizes repeatedly and
 

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actions. He apologizes repeatedly and
makes clear notes of actions he has

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makes clear notes of actions he has
 

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makes clear notes of actions he has
taken over the years to correct these

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taken over the years to correct these
 

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taken over the years to correct these
behaviors. These communities talk an

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behaviors. These communities talk an
 

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behaviors. These communities talk an
awful lot about people taking

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awful lot about people taking
 

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awful lot about people taking
accountability and that if people do

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accountability and that if people do
 

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accountability and that if people do
take accountability and apologize for

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take accountability and apologize for
 

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take accountability and apologize for
their actions, mostly they can just get

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their actions, mostly they can just get
 

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their actions, mostly they can just get
on with their lives afterwards. So, it

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on with their lives afterwards. So, it
 

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on with their lives afterwards. So, it
confused me quite a lot to hear Chris do

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confused me quite a lot to hear Chris do
 

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confused me quite a lot to hear Chris do
all the things you are meant to do and

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all the things you are meant to do and
 

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all the things you are meant to do and
still be expected to face serious

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still be expected to face serious
 

457
00:09:38,959 --> 00:09:41,670
still be expected to face serious
repercussions. We are talking about a

458
00:09:41,670 --> 00:09:41,680
repercussions. We are talking about a
 

459
00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:45,509
repercussions. We are talking about a
single instance over a decade ago with

460
00:09:45,509 --> 00:09:45,519
single instance over a decade ago with
 

461
00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:49,110
single instance over a decade ago with
seemingly no repeat behaviors. The idea

462
00:09:49,110 --> 00:09:49,120
seemingly no repeat behaviors. The idea
 

463
00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,590
seemingly no repeat behaviors. The idea
someone should be fired over this is

464
00:09:51,590 --> 00:09:51,600
someone should be fired over this is
 

465
00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,670
someone should be fired over this is
frankly absurd. And so I went back to KP

466
00:09:55,670 --> 00:09:55,680
frankly absurd. And so I went back to KP
 

467
00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:59,269
frankly absurd. And so I went back to KP
to ask her about it cuz I' I've I went

468
00:09:59,269 --> 00:09:59,279
to ask her about it cuz I' I've I went
 

469
00:09:59,279 --> 00:10:01,190
to ask her about it cuz I' I've I went
looking through some of the Chris stuff,

470
00:10:01,190 --> 00:10:01,200
looking through some of the Chris stuff,
 

471
00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,230
looking through some of the Chris stuff,
KP. Mhm.

472
00:10:03,230 --> 00:10:03,240
KP. Mhm.
 

473
00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,150
KP. Mhm.
And I mean I I'll be honest with you, I

474
00:10:06,150 --> 00:10:06,160
And I mean I I'll be honest with you, I
 

475
00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,630
And I mean I I'll be honest with you, I
it's it's very difficult with the Chris

476
00:10:08,630 --> 00:10:08,640
it's it's very difficult with the Chris
 

477
00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,470
it's it's very difficult with the Chris
stuff because what I've got is I've got

478
00:10:10,470 --> 00:10:10,480
stuff because what I've got is I've got
 

479
00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,829
stuff because what I've got is I've got
your section in the video which is a

480
00:10:11,829 --> 00:10:11,839
your section in the video which is a
 

481
00:10:11,839 --> 00:10:14,870
your section in the video which is a
2minute cut and it that's a condensed

482
00:10:14,870 --> 00:10:14,880
2minute cut and it that's a condensed
 

483
00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,230
2minute cut and it that's a condensed
version of the full call um which isn't

484
00:10:18,230 --> 00:10:18,240
version of the full call um which isn't
 

485
00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,710
version of the full call um which isn't
noted as condensed version in your video

486
00:10:20,710 --> 00:10:20,720
noted as condensed version in your video
 

487
00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,870
noted as condensed version in your video
and then I've listened to the full call

488
00:10:22,870 --> 00:10:22,880
and then I've listened to the full call
 

489
00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,750
and then I've listened to the full call
and Chris is highly apologetic, takes

490
00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:25,760
and Chris is highly apologetic, takes
 

491
00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,470
and Chris is highly apologetic, takes
full accountability for his actions,

492
00:10:28,470 --> 00:10:28,480
full accountability for his actions,
 

493
00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,470
full accountability for his actions,
explains to you that you know where he

494
00:10:30,470 --> 00:10:30,480
explains to you that you know where he
 

495
00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,750
explains to you that you know where he
was at the time and the fact that he has

496
00:10:31,750 --> 00:10:31,760
was at the time and the fact that he has
 

497
00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,710
was at the time and the fact that he has
sought therapy and to modify that

498
00:10:34,710 --> 00:10:34,720
sought therapy and to modify that
 

499
00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,630
sought therapy and to modify that
behavior. He's not making excuses for

500
00:10:36,630 --> 00:10:36,640
behavior. He's not making excuses for
 

501
00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,110
behavior. He's not making excuses for
it. He's l just actually taking account.

502
00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:39,120
it. He's l just actually taking account.
 

503
00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,069
it. He's l just actually taking account.
So, I'm I'm trying to

504
00:10:41,069 --> 00:10:41,079
So, I'm I'm trying to
 

505
00:10:41,079 --> 00:10:43,750
So, I'm I'm trying to
understand why you felt it was necessary

506
00:10:43,750 --> 00:10:43,760
understand why you felt it was necessary
 

507
00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,590
understand why you felt it was necessary
to make a video on him or why he should

508
00:10:45,590 --> 00:10:45,600
to make a video on him or why he should
 

509
00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,910
to make a video on him or why he should
be fired for something that happened a

510
00:10:47,910 --> 00:10:47,920
be fired for something that happened a
 

511
00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:57,150
be fired for something that happened a
decade ago and he has apologized for.

512
00:10:57,150 --> 00:10:57,160

 

513
00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,750

Um I I guess I just wanted a sense of

514
00:10:59,750 --> 00:10:59,760
Um I I guess I just wanted a sense of
 

515
00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,069
Um I I guess I just wanted a sense of
accountability.

516
00:11:02,069 --> 00:11:02,079
accountability.
 

517
00:11:02,079 --> 00:11:04,310
accountability.
if that makes sense. Like I get your

518
00:11:04,310 --> 00:11:04,320
if that makes sense. Like I get your
 

519
00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,990
if that makes sense. Like I get your
point though. Um it's very difficult

520
00:11:05,990 --> 00:11:06,000
point though. Um it's very difficult
 

521
00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,509
point though. Um it's very difficult
because what does accountability look

522
00:11:07,509 --> 00:11:07,519
because what does accountability look
 

523
00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:10,870
because what does accountability look
like? I mean again he didn't he didn't

524
00:11:10,870 --> 00:11:10,880
like? I mean again he didn't he didn't
 

525
00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,190
like? I mean again he didn't he didn't
actually assault anybody. He made up a

526
00:11:13,190 --> 00:11:13,200
actually assault anybody. He made up a
 

527
00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,190
actually assault anybody. He made up a
weird story which is very [\h__\h] weird.

528
00:11:15,190 --> 00:11:15,200
weird story which is very [\h__\h] weird.
 

529
00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,190
weird story which is very [\h__\h] weird.
I agree with you.

530
00:11:18,190 --> 00:11:18,200
I agree with you.
 

531
00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,750
I agree with you.
Um but he's you know if accountability

532
00:11:21,750 --> 00:11:21,760
Um but he's you know if accountability
 

533
00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,509
Um but he's you know if accountability
is you should lose your job, your

534
00:11:23,509 --> 00:11:23,519
is you should lose your job, your
 

535
00:11:23,519 --> 00:11:25,430
is you should lose your job, your
livelihood and everything else. I mean

536
00:11:25,430 --> 00:11:25,440
livelihood and everything else. I mean
 

537
00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,190
livelihood and everything else. I mean
that's would you agree that's fairly

538
00:11:27,190 --> 00:11:27,200
that's would you agree that's fairly
 

539
00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,390
that's would you agree that's fairly
extreme?

540
00:11:28,390 --> 00:11:28,400
extreme?
 

541
00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:36,829
extreme?
[Music]

542
00:11:36,829 --> 00:11:36,839

 

543
00:11:36,839 --> 00:11:42,430

Um, I think like maybe

544
00:11:42,430 --> 00:11:42,440

 

545
00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,030

like some sort of statement from him too

546
00:11:45,030 --> 00:11:45,040
like some sort of statement from him too
 

547
00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,550
like some sort of statement from him too
might have helped. Like, no, I get your

548
00:11:46,550 --> 00:11:46,560
might have helped. Like, no, I get your
 

549
00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:48,710
might have helped. Like, no, I get your
point though, like that this was a thing

550
00:11:48,710 --> 00:11:48,720
point though, like that this was a thing
 

551
00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,470
point though, like that this was a thing
that happened and this probably damaged

552
00:11:50,470 --> 00:11:50,480
that happened and this probably damaged
 

553
00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,870
that happened and this probably damaged
some relationships that I was working on

554
00:11:52,870 --> 00:11:52,880
some relationships that I was working on
 

555
00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,430
some relationships that I was working on
with the at the time. And um that kind

556
00:11:57,430 --> 00:11:57,440
with the at the time. And um that kind
 

557
00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,829
with the at the time. And um that kind
of sucks, but I I see what you mean cuz

558
00:11:59,829 --> 00:11:59,839
of sucks, but I I see what you mean cuz
 

559
00:11:59,839 --> 00:12:01,590
of sucks, but I I see what you mean cuz
I mean I I will say like from talking to

560
00:12:01,590 --> 00:12:01,600
I mean I I will say like from talking to
 

561
00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,030
I mean I I will say like from talking to
a few other people who've been going

562
00:12:03,030 --> 00:12:03,040
a few other people who've been going
 

563
00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,350
a few other people who've been going
over this, I mean the Chris stuff is is

564
00:12:05,350 --> 00:12:05,360
over this, I mean the Chris stuff is is
 

565
00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,910
over this, I mean the Chris stuff is is
is a point that it's kind of come up

566
00:12:07,910 --> 00:12:07,920
is a point that it's kind of come up
 

567
00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,470
is a point that it's kind of come up
again and again. It's like you know I I

568
00:12:10,470 --> 00:12:10,480
again and again. It's like you know I I
 

569
00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:11,670
again and again. It's like you know I I
see a lot of stories about people who

570
00:12:11,670 --> 00:12:11,680
see a lot of stories about people who
 

571
00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:14,069
see a lot of stories about people who
are like abusers who've like had sexual

572
00:12:14,069 --> 00:12:14,079
are like abusers who've like had sexual
 

573
00:12:14,079 --> 00:12:16,310
are like abusers who've like had sexual
conversations around and with kids. I

574
00:12:16,310 --> 00:12:16,320
conversations around and with kids. I
 

575
00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,870
conversations around and with kids. I
think there's a current drama going on

576
00:12:18,870 --> 00:12:18,880
think there's a current drama going on
 

577
00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,069
think there's a current drama going on
over again. some stuff that happened

578
00:12:20,069 --> 00:12:20,079
over again. some stuff that happened
 

579
00:12:20,079 --> 00:12:21,310
over again. some stuff that happened
like 5 years

580
00:12:21,310 --> 00:12:21,320
like 5 years
 

581
00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,389
like 5 years
ago and one of the particular people

582
00:12:24,389 --> 00:12:24,399
ago and one of the particular people
 

583
00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:28,470
ago and one of the particular people
involved in that, you know, he's he's in

584
00:12:28,470 --> 00:12:28,480
involved in that, you know, he's he's in
 

585
00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,949
involved in that, you know, he's he's in
trouble now because he's sort of pushing

586
00:12:30,949 --> 00:12:30,959
trouble now because he's sort of pushing
 

587
00:12:30,959 --> 00:12:33,430
trouble now because he's sort of pushing
back after sort of acknowledging what

588
00:12:33,430 --> 00:12:33,440
back after sort of acknowledging what
 

589
00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:38,069
back after sort of acknowledging what
he's done to this person. Um, but the

590
00:12:38,069 --> 00:12:38,079
he's done to this person. Um, but the
 

591
00:12:38,079 --> 00:12:39,670
he's done to this person. Um, but the
kind of prevailing thing is like, well,

592
00:12:39,670 --> 00:12:39,680
kind of prevailing thing is like, well,
 

593
00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:41,269
kind of prevailing thing is like, well,
if you just said, yeah, that was a

594
00:12:41,269 --> 00:12:41,279
if you just said, yeah, that was a
 

595
00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:44,069
if you just said, yeah, that was a
[\h__\h] and I was a bit weird and I', you

596
00:12:44,069 --> 00:12:44,079
[\h__\h] and I was a bit weird and I', you
 

597
00:12:44,079 --> 00:12:45,230
[\h__\h] and I was a bit weird and I', you
know, and I'm

598
00:12:45,230 --> 00:12:45,240
know, and I'm
 

599
00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,829
know, and I'm
sorry, no one would care. But with

600
00:12:47,829 --> 00:12:47,839
sorry, no one would care. But with
 

601
00:12:47,839 --> 00:12:49,990
sorry, no one would care. But with
Chris, you've got literally the reverse

602
00:12:49,990 --> 00:12:50,000
Chris, you've got literally the reverse
 

603
00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,750
Chris, you've got literally the reverse
of that situation where he does admit

604
00:12:51,750 --> 00:12:51,760
of that situation where he does admit
 

605
00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,750
of that situation where he does admit
it's a

606
00:12:52,750 --> 00:12:52,760
it's a
 

607
00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,150
it's a
[\h__\h] says that he's sorry, and it's

608
00:12:56,150 --> 00:12:56,160
[\h__\h] says that he's sorry, and it's
 

609
00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,829
[\h__\h] says that he's sorry, and it's
like that feels like it's not enough two

610
00:12:57,829 --> 00:12:57,839
like that feels like it's not enough two
 

611
00:12:57,839 --> 00:12:59,230
like that feels like it's not enough two
years later.

612
00:12:59,230 --> 00:12:59,240
years later.
 

613
00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,910
years later.
So, yeah, I I kind of want to be clear

614
00:13:01,910 --> 00:13:01,920
So, yeah, I I kind of want to be clear
 

615
00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,670
So, yeah, I I kind of want to be clear
about that cuz it that I think that's

616
00:13:03,670 --> 00:13:03,680
about that cuz it that I think that's
 

617
00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:04,430
about that cuz it that I think that's
something

618
00:13:04,430 --> 00:13:04,440
something
 

619
00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:14,030
something
that you are going to catch flack for.

620
00:13:14,030 --> 00:13:14,040

 

621
00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,590

Um, I think it was also No, that's fair.

622
00:13:17,590 --> 00:13:17,600
Um, I think it was also No, that's fair.
 

623
00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,110
Um, I think it was also No, that's fair.
I think it was

624
00:13:20,110 --> 00:13:20,120
I think it was
 

625
00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,110
I think it was
also I was frustrated like I think I

626
00:13:23,110 --> 00:13:23,120
also I was frustrated like I think I
 

627
00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,470
also I was frustrated like I think I
wanted some accountability. I was

628
00:13:24,470 --> 00:13:24,480
wanted some accountability. I was
 

629
00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,629
wanted some accountability. I was
frustrated with the responses I was

630
00:13:26,629 --> 00:13:26,639
frustrated with the responses I was
 

631
00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:28,310
frustrated with the responses I was
getting and I was frustrated that no one

632
00:13:28,310 --> 00:13:28,320
getting and I was frustrated that no one
 

633
00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,910
getting and I was frustrated that no one
was

634
00:13:32,910 --> 00:13:32,920

 

635
00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,509

like offering to help fix it. It was

636
00:13:35,509 --> 00:13:35,519
like offering to help fix it. It was
 

637
00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:37,069
like offering to help fix it. It was
just more like, you

638
00:13:37,069 --> 00:13:37,079
just more like, you
 

639
00:13:37,079 --> 00:13:41,110
just more like, you
know, if that makes sense. Sure.

640
00:13:41,110 --> 00:13:41,120
know, if that makes sense. Sure.
 

641
00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,590
know, if that makes sense. Sure.
Accountable. What What What does fixing

642
00:13:43,590 --> 00:13:43,600
Accountable. What What What does fixing
 

643
00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,949
Accountable. What What What does fixing
it look like to you?

644
00:13:48,949 --> 00:13:48,959

 

645
00:13:48,959 --> 00:13:52,470

Maybe some kind of um public like public

646
00:13:52,470 --> 00:13:52,480
Maybe some kind of um public like public
 

647
00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,910
Maybe some kind of um public like public
acknowledgement or something because it

648
00:13:54,910 --> 00:13:54,920
acknowledgement or something because it
 

649
00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,069
acknowledgement or something because it
had reputational damage but also maybe

650
00:13:58,069 --> 00:13:58,079
had reputational damage but also maybe
 

651
00:13:58,079 --> 00:14:00,550
had reputational damage but also maybe
like actually proving he went to have

652
00:14:00,550 --> 00:14:00,560
like actually proving he went to have
 

653
00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:02,230
like actually proving he went to have
some sensitivity training or something

654
00:14:02,230 --> 00:14:02,240
some sensitivity training or something
 

655
00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,870
some sensitivity training or something
and not just saying that.

656
00:14:04,870 --> 00:14:04,880
and not just saying that.
 

657
00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,870
and not just saying that.
Okay. If that makes sense. I mean, cuz

658
00:14:06,870 --> 00:14:06,880
Okay. If that makes sense. I mean, cuz
 

659
00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,150
Okay. If that makes sense. I mean, cuz
when I when I watched through your

660
00:14:08,150 --> 00:14:08,160
when I when I watched through your
 

661
00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,990
when I when I watched through your
video, he seems to say in his public

662
00:14:10,990 --> 00:14:11,000
video, he seems to say in his public
 

663
00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,189
video, he seems to say in his public
statement, "Yes, this is a thing that

664
00:14:13,189 --> 00:14:13,199
statement, "Yes, this is a thing that
 

665
00:14:13,199 --> 00:14:15,189
statement, "Yes, this is a thing that
happened and I needed to work on and I'm

666
00:14:15,189 --> 00:14:15,199
happened and I needed to work on and I'm
 

667
00:14:15,199 --> 00:14:17,430
happened and I needed to work on and I'm
sorry for." I mean, it was, you know, it

668
00:14:17,430 --> 00:14:17,440
sorry for." I mean, it was, you know, it
 

669
00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,350
sorry for." I mean, it was, you know, it
was a very corporate statement in some

670
00:14:19,350 --> 00:14:19,360
was a very corporate statement in some
 

671
00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,269
was a very corporate statement in some
regards. I I think I I think that's

672
00:14:21,269 --> 00:14:21,279
regards. I I think I I think that's
 

673
00:14:21,279 --> 00:14:24,790
regards. I I think I I think that's
fair, but it's like publicly this was

674
00:14:24,790 --> 00:14:24,800
fair, but it's like publicly this was
 

675
00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,710
fair, but it's like publicly this was
acknowledged as a thing that did happen

676
00:14:26,710 --> 00:14:26,720
acknowledged as a thing that did happen
 

677
00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,550
acknowledged as a thing that did happen
with Chris, right? Mhm.

678
00:14:30,550 --> 00:14:30,560
with Chris, right? Mhm.
 

679
00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,870
with Chris, right? Mhm.
So, yeah, I I think I think there is a

680
00:14:32,870 --> 00:14:32,880
So, yeah, I I think I think there is a
 

681
00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,069
So, yeah, I I think I think there is a
spiraling element here that Oh, I should

682
00:14:36,069 --> 00:14:36,079
spiraling element here that Oh, I should
 

683
00:14:36,079 --> 00:14:37,990
spiraling element here that Oh, I should
I should I should clarify that it was

684
00:14:37,990 --> 00:14:38,000
I should I should clarify that it was
 

685
00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,310
I should I should clarify that it was
only acknowledged

686
00:14:39,310 --> 00:14:39,320
only acknowledged
 

687
00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,790
only acknowledged
publicly.

688
00:14:41,790 --> 00:14:41,800
publicly.
 

689
00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:46,350
publicly.
Um I I felt he might be a little

690
00:14:46,350 --> 00:14:46,360
Um I I felt he might be a little
 

691
00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,870
Um I I felt he might be a little
bit dangerous just because he was kind

692
00:14:48,870 --> 00:14:48,880
bit dangerous just because he was kind
 

693
00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,870
bit dangerous just because he was kind
of lying about those kind of experiences

694
00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:50,880
of lying about those kind of experiences
 

695
00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,590
of lying about those kind of experiences
on top of when I looked into the DA game

696
00:14:53,590 --> 00:14:53,600
on top of when I looked into the DA game
 

697
00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,030
on top of when I looked into the DA game
stuff too. I don't know if you've gotten

698
00:14:55,030 --> 00:14:55,040
stuff too. I don't know if you've gotten
 

699
00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,310
stuff too. I don't know if you've gotten
there, but there's a lot of like

700
00:14:58,310 --> 00:14:58,320
there, but there's a lot of like
 

701
00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,710
there, but there's a lot of like
um gross behavior there. So it just

702
00:15:00,710 --> 00:15:00,720
um gross behavior there. So it just
 

703
00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,750
um gross behavior there. So it just
seemed like these people were

704
00:15:02,750 --> 00:15:02,760
seemed like these people were
 

705
00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,269
seemed like these people were
accountable

706
00:15:06,269 --> 00:15:06,279

 

707
00:15:06,279 --> 00:15:09,110

for themselves as well. So I guess that

708
00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:09,120
for themselves as well. So I guess that
 

709
00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,150
for themselves as well. So I guess that
it it became a bigger scope to me

710
00:15:13,150 --> 00:15:13,160

 

711
00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,030

once games was not really willing to

712
00:15:17,030 --> 00:15:17,040
once games was not really willing to
 

713
00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,350
once games was not really willing to
work with me and then once some of the

714
00:15:19,350 --> 00:15:19,360
work with me and then once some of the
 

715
00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,110
work with me and then once some of the
games victims found me and they were

716
00:15:21,110 --> 00:15:21,120
games victims found me and they were
 

717
00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,790
games victims found me and they were
like, "Oh, this is a pattern." Cuz they

718
00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:22,800
like, "Oh, this is a pattern." Cuz they
 

719
00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,710
like, "Oh, this is a pattern." Cuz they
do this stuff kind this kind of stuff

720
00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:24,720
do this stuff kind this kind of stuff
 

721
00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,150
do this stuff kind this kind of stuff
all the time. With that out of the way,

722
00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:26,160
all the time. With that out of the way,
 

723
00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,590
all the time. With that out of the way,
I suppose we should get to the Saber

724
00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:27,600
I suppose we should get to the Saber
 

725
00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,990
I suppose we should get to the Saber
Spark allegations themselves. Now, the

726
00:15:29,990 --> 00:15:30,000
Spark allegations themselves. Now, the
 

727
00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,310
Spark allegations themselves. Now, the
way I want to break this down is I'm

728
00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:32,320
way I want to break this down is I'm
 

729
00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,269
way I want to break this down is I'm
going to explain to you what the

730
00:15:33,269 --> 00:15:33,279
going to explain to you what the
 

731
00:15:33,279 --> 00:15:34,550
going to explain to you what the
allegations were and how they were

732
00:15:34,550 --> 00:15:34,560
allegations were and how they were
 

733
00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,310
allegations were and how they were
presented. And then I'm going to tell

734
00:15:36,310 --> 00:15:36,320
presented. And then I'm going to tell
 

735
00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,470
presented. And then I'm going to tell
you what happened behind the scenes, and

736
00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:38,480
you what happened behind the scenes, and
 

737
00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,350
you what happened behind the scenes, and
I can do that with

738
00:15:40,350 --> 00:15:40,360
I can do that with
 

739
00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,590
I can do that with
receipts because I have everyone's DMs.

740
00:15:43,590 --> 00:15:43,600
receipts because I have everyone's DMs.
 

741
00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,269
receipts because I have everyone's DMs.
And yes, that includes Brunie Fand's DMs

742
00:15:47,269 --> 00:15:47,279
And yes, that includes Brunie Fand's DMs
 

743
00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:50,310
And yes, that includes Brunie Fand's DMs
with KP, which make for fairly

744
00:15:50,310 --> 00:15:50,320
with KP, which make for fairly
 

745
00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,430
with KP, which make for fairly
fascinating reading. So, the allegations

746
00:15:53,430 --> 00:15:53,440
fascinating reading. So, the allegations
 

747
00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,189
fascinating reading. So, the allegations
against Saber Spark were first released

748
00:15:55,189 --> 00:15:55,199
against Saber Spark were first released
 

749
00:15:55,199 --> 00:15:57,670
against Saber Spark were first released
on Twitter through Brony Fandones

750
00:15:57,670 --> 00:15:57,680
on Twitter through Brony Fandones
 

751
00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,150
on Twitter through Brony Fandones
account, and believe it or not, that

752
00:16:00,150 --> 00:16:00,160
account, and believe it or not, that
 

753
00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,069
account, and believe it or not, that
fact's going to become quite relevant

754
00:16:02,069 --> 00:16:02,079
fact's going to become quite relevant
 

755
00:16:02,079 --> 00:16:04,629
fact's going to become quite relevant
later on. These allegations would come

756
00:16:04,629 --> 00:16:04,639
later on. These allegations would come
 

757
00:16:04,639 --> 00:16:07,269
later on. These allegations would come
from an anonymous source claiming that

758
00:16:07,269 --> 00:16:07,279
from an anonymous source claiming that
 

759
00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:10,389
from an anonymous source claiming that
in 2012 and 2013, though, it is worth

760
00:16:10,389 --> 00:16:10,399
in 2012 and 2013, though, it is worth
 

761
00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:12,230
in 2012 and 2013, though, it is worth
noting that there would be a later

762
00:16:12,230 --> 00:16:12,240
noting that there would be a later
 

763
00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,150
noting that there would be a later
correction that this all occurred in

764
00:16:14,150 --> 00:16:14,160
correction that this all occurred in
 

765
00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,949
correction that this all occurred in
2012. This individual met up with Saver

766
00:16:16,949 --> 00:16:16,959
2012. This individual met up with Saver
 

767
00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:20,069
2012. This individual met up with Saver
Spark twice and on both occasions they

768
00:16:20,069 --> 00:16:20,079
Spark twice and on both occasions they
 

769
00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:23,110
Spark twice and on both occasions they
engaged in non-consensual sexual

770
00:16:23,110 --> 00:16:23,120
engaged in non-consensual sexual
 

771
00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,990
engaged in non-consensual sexual
activity with him. KP would then present

772
00:16:25,990 --> 00:16:26,000
activity with him. KP would then present
 

773
00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,310
activity with him. KP would then present
these allegations in her video and

774
00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:28,320
these allegations in her video and
 

775
00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,230
these allegations in her video and
follow it up with a conversation between

776
00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:30,240
follow it up with a conversation between
 

777
00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,710
follow it up with a conversation between
herself and Courtney Pete regarding the

778
00:16:32,710 --> 00:16:32,720
herself and Courtney Pete regarding the
 

779
00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,590
herself and Courtney Pete regarding the
nature of consent. As a quick note for

780
00:16:35,590 --> 00:16:35,600
nature of consent. As a quick note for
 

781
00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,509
nature of consent. As a quick note for
those of you unaware of who Courtney Pet

782
00:16:37,509 --> 00:16:37,519
those of you unaware of who Courtney Pet
 

783
00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:40,710
those of you unaware of who Courtney Pet
is, this is the sister of Lily Orchard,

784
00:16:40,710 --> 00:16:40,720
is, this is the sister of Lily Orchard,
 

785
00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,870
is, this is the sister of Lily Orchard,
and most people will be aware of her

786
00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:42,880
and most people will be aware of her
 

787
00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,870
and most people will be aware of her
through her ongoing campaign against

788
00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:44,880
through her ongoing campaign against
 

789
00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,110
through her ongoing campaign against
Lily Orchard, who is alleged to have

790
00:16:47,110 --> 00:16:47,120
Lily Orchard, who is alleged to have
 

791
00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,150
Lily Orchard, who is alleged to have
abused Courtney during her childhood.

792
00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:50,160
abused Courtney during her childhood.
 

793
00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,910
abused Courtney during her childhood.
Regarding the allegations themselves,

794
00:16:51,910 --> 00:16:51,920
Regarding the allegations themselves,
 

795
00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,590
Regarding the allegations themselves,
and we'll come to who the accuser

796
00:16:53,590 --> 00:16:53,600
and we'll come to who the accuser
 

797
00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,470
and we'll come to who the accuser
actually is, I was immediately pretty

798
00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:56,480
actually is, I was immediately pretty
 

799
00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,350
actually is, I was immediately pretty
skeptical of these when I saw them. I

800
00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:59,360
skeptical of these when I saw them. I
 

801
00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,189
skeptical of these when I saw them. I
put out a Twitter thread outlining my

802
00:17:01,189 --> 00:17:01,199
put out a Twitter thread outlining my
 

803
00:17:01,199 --> 00:17:03,030
put out a Twitter thread outlining my
issues with the allegations the day

804
00:17:03,030 --> 00:17:03,040
issues with the allegations the day
 

805
00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,029
issues with the allegations the day
after they dropped, but I'd like to take

806
00:17:05,029 --> 00:17:05,039
after they dropped, but I'd like to take
 

807
00:17:05,039 --> 00:17:07,789
after they dropped, but I'd like to take
a moment to be crystal clear at this

808
00:17:07,789 --> 00:17:07,799
a moment to be crystal clear at this
 

809
00:17:07,799 --> 00:17:11,110
a moment to be crystal clear at this
point. I don't think anybody will ever

810
00:17:11,110 --> 00:17:11,120
point. I don't think anybody will ever
 

811
00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:14,069
point. I don't think anybody will ever
be able to say with 100% certainty that

812
00:17:14,069 --> 00:17:14,079
be able to say with 100% certainty that
 

813
00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:17,270
be able to say with 100% certainty that
these events did or did not occur. While

814
00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:17,280
these events did or did not occur. While
 

815
00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,069
these events did or did not occur. While
Saberspark has denied the accusations,

816
00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:20,079
Saberspark has denied the accusations,
 

817
00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:22,630
Saberspark has denied the accusations,
this occurred so long ago that the

818
00:17:22,630 --> 00:17:22,640
this occurred so long ago that the
 

819
00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,110
this occurred so long ago that the
evidence to condemn or vindicate him

820
00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:25,120
evidence to condemn or vindicate him
 

821
00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:28,549
evidence to condemn or vindicate him
just doesn't exist. Which is exactly why

822
00:17:28,549 --> 00:17:28,559
just doesn't exist. Which is exactly why
 

823
00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:31,270
just doesn't exist. Which is exactly why
accusations like this should never be

824
00:17:31,270 --> 00:17:31,280
accusations like this should never be
 

825
00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,549
accusations like this should never be
platformed by a creator. Putting anyone

826
00:17:34,549 --> 00:17:34,559
platformed by a creator. Putting anyone
 

827
00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:36,310
platformed by a creator. Putting anyone
in the position where they have to deal

828
00:17:36,310 --> 00:17:36,320
in the position where they have to deal
 

829
00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,590
in the position where they have to deal
with life ruining allegations when you

830
00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:39,600
with life ruining allegations when you
 

831
00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,710
with life ruining allegations when you
have no evidence to support them beyond

832
00:17:42,710 --> 00:17:42,720
have no evidence to support them beyond
 

833
00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,909
have no evidence to support them beyond
a single victim testimony is an

834
00:17:45,909 --> 00:17:45,919
a single victim testimony is an
 

835
00:17:45,919 --> 00:17:48,470
a single victim testimony is an
incredibly callous and [\h__\h] up thing

836
00:17:48,470 --> 00:17:48,480
incredibly callous and [\h__\h] up thing
 

837
00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,909
incredibly callous and [\h__\h] up thing
to do to somebody. And as we dive into

838
00:17:51,909 --> 00:17:51,919
to do to somebody. And as we dive into
 

839
00:17:51,919 --> 00:17:55,110
to do to somebody. And as we dive into
the deeper drama surrounding this story,

840
00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:55,120
the deeper drama surrounding this story,
 

841
00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:56,870
the deeper drama surrounding this story,
particularly when looking at people like

842
00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:56,880
particularly when looking at people like
 

843
00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,870
particularly when looking at people like
Brony Fand, that's a theme because when

844
00:18:00,870 --> 00:18:00,880
Brony Fand, that's a theme because when
 

845
00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,990
Brony Fand, that's a theme because when
it comes to the Black Griffin

846
00:18:02,990 --> 00:18:03,000
it comes to the Black Griffin
 

847
00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,190
it comes to the Black Griffin
allegations, vast amounts of the

848
00:18:05,190 --> 00:18:05,200
allegations, vast amounts of the
 

849
00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,909
allegations, vast amounts of the
evidence supplied against him is

850
00:18:07,909 --> 00:18:07,919
evidence supplied against him is
 

851
00:18:07,919 --> 00:18:10,870
evidence supplied against him is
incredibly shaky. And when challenged on

852
00:18:10,870 --> 00:18:10,880
incredibly shaky. And when challenged on
 

853
00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,909
incredibly shaky. And when challenged on
this, the defense is the quantity of

854
00:18:14,909 --> 00:18:14,919
this, the defense is the quantity of
 

855
00:18:14,919 --> 00:18:17,310
this, the defense is the quantity of
allegations, regardless of their

856
00:18:17,310 --> 00:18:17,320
allegations, regardless of their
 

857
00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,750
allegations, regardless of their
quality. And to be candid, it astonishes

858
00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:21,760
quality. And to be candid, it astonishes
 

859
00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,390
quality. And to be candid, it astonishes
me that this has gone on for as long as

860
00:18:24,390 --> 00:18:24,400
me that this has gone on for as long as
 

861
00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,070
me that this has gone on for as long as
it has. That being said, let's get to

862
00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:28,080
it has. That being said, let's get to
 

863
00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,390
it has. That being said, let's get to
the behind the

864
00:18:29,390 --> 00:18:29,400
the behind the
 

865
00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,230
the behind the
scenes. One thing I was made immediately

866
00:18:32,230 --> 00:18:32,240
scenes. One thing I was made immediately
 

867
00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,190
scenes. One thing I was made immediately
aware of is apparently Lio Convoy was

868
00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:35,200
aware of is apparently Lio Convoy was
 

869
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,750
aware of is apparently Lio Convoy was
involved in this, which didn't come as

870
00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:37,760
involved in this, which didn't come as
 

871
00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,990
involved in this, which didn't come as
much of a surprise given his history

872
00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:40,000
much of a surprise given his history
 

873
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,549
much of a surprise given his history
with this particular community. Lio

874
00:18:42,549 --> 00:18:42,559
with this particular community. Lio
 

875
00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:44,870
with this particular community. Lio
again has pre-existing relationships

876
00:18:44,870 --> 00:18:44,880
again has pre-existing relationships
 

877
00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,350
again has pre-existing relationships
with KP and many of the other people

878
00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:47,360
with KP and many of the other people
 

879
00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:49,510
with KP and many of the other people
involved in this particular fandom.

880
00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:49,520
involved in this particular fandom.
 

881
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,990
involved in this particular fandom.
Actually, little bit of fun law for you,

882
00:18:51,990 --> 00:18:52,000
Actually, little bit of fun law for you,
 

883
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,750
Actually, little bit of fun law for you,
but a lot of the people involved in the

884
00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:53,760
but a lot of the people involved in the
 

885
00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,150
but a lot of the people involved in the
Senate server actually originate in the

886
00:18:56,150 --> 00:18:56,160
Senate server actually originate in the
 

887
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,950
Senate server actually originate in the
Brony community with individuals such as

888
00:18:58,950 --> 00:18:58,960
Brony community with individuals such as
 

889
00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,430
Brony community with individuals such as
Queen Saraphina even voice acting in

890
00:19:01,430 --> 00:19:01,440
Queen Saraphina even voice acting in
 

891
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,909
Queen Saraphina even voice acting in
popular Brony cartoons like this one

892
00:19:03,909 --> 00:19:03,919
popular Brony cartoons like this one
 

893
00:19:03,919 --> 00:19:07,909
popular Brony cartoons like this one
from Pimations. Though to my surprise,

894
00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:07,919
from Pimations. Though to my surprise,
 

895
00:19:07,919 --> 00:19:09,750
from Pimations. Though to my surprise,
Liars's involvement in this is

896
00:19:09,750 --> 00:19:09,760
Liars's involvement in this is
 

897
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,630
Liars's involvement in this is
incredibly minimal. He would though

898
00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:12,640
incredibly minimal. He would though
 

899
00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,270
incredibly minimal. He would though
share what DMs he had and it seems he

900
00:19:15,270 --> 00:19:15,280
share what DMs he had and it seems he
 

901
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,110
share what DMs he had and it seems he
was added to a couple of different group

902
00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:17,120
was added to a couple of different group
 

903
00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:19,190
was added to a couple of different group
chats. The first involving the

904
00:19:19,190 --> 00:19:19,200
chats. The first involving the
 

905
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,190
chats. The first involving the
individuals leveling accusations towards

906
00:19:21,190 --> 00:19:21,200
individuals leveling accusations towards
 

907
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,070
individuals leveling accusations towards
DA Games as well as the individual

908
00:19:24,070 --> 00:19:24,080
DA Games as well as the individual
 

909
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,549
DA Games as well as the individual
making allegations against Saber Spark.

910
00:19:26,549 --> 00:19:26,559
making allegations against Saber Spark.
 

911
00:19:26,559 --> 00:19:28,789
making allegations against Saber Spark.
In the interest of transparency and

912
00:19:28,789 --> 00:19:28,799
In the interest of transparency and
 

913
00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:31,990
In the interest of transparency and
because the DA Games group chat is less

914
00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:32,000
because the DA Games group chat is less
 

915
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,070
because the DA Games group chat is less
of interest right now though is

916
00:19:34,070 --> 00:19:34,080
of interest right now though is
 

917
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,470
of interest right now though is
referenced in later conversations. I

918
00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:36,480
referenced in later conversations. I
 

919
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,390
referenced in later conversations. I
think it's useful to hear this first

920
00:19:38,390 --> 00:19:38,400
think it's useful to hear this first
 

921
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,789
think it's useful to hear this first
recording just in full so you can get a

922
00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:40,799
recording just in full so you can get a
 

923
00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:43,110
recording just in full so you can get a
general scale of Liars's level of

924
00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:43,120
general scale of Liars's level of
 

925
00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:44,950
general scale of Liars's level of
involvement.

926
00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:44,960
involvement.
 

927
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,350
involvement.
Is everybody here like previous

928
00:19:47,350 --> 00:19:47,360
Is everybody here like previous
 

929
00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:49,510
Is everybody here like previous
employees of DA Games? Is that what I'm

930
00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:49,520
employees of DA Games? Is that what I'm
 

931
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,669
employees of DA Games? Is that what I'm
getting reading the chat here? Okay. So,

932
00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:51,679
getting reading the chat here? Okay. So,
 

933
00:19:51,679 --> 00:19:53,430
getting reading the chat here? Okay. So,
is everybody here an adult or we got any

934
00:19:53,430 --> 00:19:53,440
is everybody here an adult or we got any
 

935
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,789
is everybody here an adult or we got any
minors here? I haven't heard the

936
00:19:54,789 --> 00:19:54,799
minors here? I haven't heard the
 

937
00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:57,270
minors here? I haven't heard the
interview myself, but I'm curious. When

938
00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:57,280
interview myself, but I'm curious. When
 

939
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,669
interview myself, but I'm curious. When
you say unserious, is that because uh

940
00:19:59,669 --> 00:19:59,679
you say unserious, is that because uh
 

941
00:19:59,679 --> 00:20:02,230
you say unserious, is that because uh
humor is a coping mechanism for you? Cuz

942
00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:02,240
humor is a coping mechanism for you? Cuz
 

943
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,909
humor is a coping mechanism for you? Cuz
that's pretty common.

944
00:20:05,909 --> 00:20:05,919

 

945
00:20:05,919 --> 00:20:08,789

I think maybe putting in a section

946
00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:08,799
I think maybe putting in a section
 

947
00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:12,789
I think maybe putting in a section
perhaps with a uh notation on studies

948
00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:12,799
perhaps with a uh notation on studies
 

949
00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:14,470
perhaps with a uh notation on studies
showing that sometimes people would cope

950
00:20:14,470 --> 00:20:14,480
showing that sometimes people would cope
 

951
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,549
showing that sometimes people would cope
with things via humor and that's how

952
00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:16,559
with things via humor and that's how
 

953
00:20:16,559 --> 00:20:18,789
with things via humor and that's how
they figure out discussing it would

954
00:20:18,789 --> 00:20:18,799
they figure out discussing it would
 

955
00:20:18,799 --> 00:20:20,950
they figure out discussing it would
probably help to to that. Not just in

956
00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:20,960
probably help to to that. Not just in
 

957
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,110
probably help to to that. Not just in
the sense that would recontextualize

958
00:20:23,110 --> 00:20:23,120
the sense that would recontextualize
 

959
00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:25,350
the sense that would recontextualize
your interview and obviously make it to

960
00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:25,360
your interview and obviously make it to
 

961
00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:27,590
your interview and obviously make it to
where it does need to be redone, but

962
00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:27,600
where it does need to be redone, but
 

963
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,310
where it does need to be redone, but
also it further points out that you're a

964
00:20:30,310 --> 00:20:30,320
also it further points out that you're a
 

965
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,470
also it further points out that you're a
victim of these things and that's how

966
00:20:32,470 --> 00:20:32,480
victim of these things and that's how
 

967
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,789
victim of these things and that's how
you're internalizing it. And it puts

968
00:20:34,789 --> 00:20:34,799
you're internalizing it. And it puts
 

969
00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:37,750
you're internalizing it. And it puts
more credibility to your claim than just

970
00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:37,760
more credibility to your claim than just
 

971
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,590
more credibility to your claim than just
redoing it and trying to do it in a

972
00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:39,600
redoing it and trying to do it in a
 

973
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,669
redoing it and trying to do it in a
sterile as possible fashion. Of note

974
00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:43,679
sterile as possible fashion. Of note
 

975
00:20:43,679 --> 00:20:47,830
sterile as possible fashion. Of note
here, Lio's advice is to allow original

976
00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:47,840
here, Lio's advice is to allow original
 

977
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,669
here, Lio's advice is to allow original
victim testimonies to stand as they are.

978
00:20:51,669 --> 00:20:51,679
victim testimonies to stand as they are.
 

979
00:20:51,679 --> 00:20:55,190
victim testimonies to stand as they are.
This is very, very solid advice for

980
00:20:55,190 --> 00:20:55,200
This is very, very solid advice for
 

981
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,870
This is very, very solid advice for
reasons that will become clear in a

982
00:20:56,870 --> 00:20:56,880
reasons that will become clear in a
 

983
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,270
reasons that will become clear in a
little bit. As for his conversation with

984
00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:59,280
little bit. As for his conversation with
 

985
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,390
little bit. As for his conversation with
the Saber Spark accuser, well, that

986
00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:02,400
the Saber Spark accuser, well, that
 

987
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,870
the Saber Spark accuser, well, that
requires a little bit of dissection. To

988
00:21:04,870 --> 00:21:04,880
requires a little bit of dissection. To
 

989
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,070
requires a little bit of dissection. To
begin with, when KP came to LIO to ask

990
00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:08,080
begin with, when KP came to LIO to ask
 

991
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,510
begin with, when KP came to LIO to ask
his opinion on this, Lio is incredibly

992
00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:11,520
his opinion on this, Lio is incredibly
 

993
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,390
his opinion on this, Lio is incredibly
clear that the correct course of action

994
00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:14,400
clear that the correct course of action
 

995
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,270
clear that the correct course of action
is to go to the police and file a

996
00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:17,280
is to go to the police and file a
 

997
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,710
is to go to the police and file a
report. Then that needs to be handled by

998
00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:20,720
report. Then that needs to be handled by
 

999
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,590
report. Then that needs to be handled by
the cops. Like

1000
00:21:22,590 --> 00:21:22,600
the cops. Like
 

1001
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,350
the cops. Like
period, like 100% period. That that

1002
00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:25,360
period, like 100% period. That that
 

1003
00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:28,750
period, like 100% period. That that
needs a police report filed today.

1004
00:21:28,750 --> 00:21:28,760
needs a police report filed today.
 

1005
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,510
needs a police report filed today.
Amazingly, he also points out the

1006
00:21:31,510 --> 00:21:31,520
Amazingly, he also points out the
 

1007
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,950
Amazingly, he also points out the
complete bloody obvious that the accuser

1008
00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:34,960
complete bloody obvious that the accuser
 

1009
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,430
complete bloody obvious that the accuser
trying to remain anonymous to protect

1010
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:37,440
trying to remain anonymous to protect
 

1011
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,990
trying to remain anonymous to protect
themselves from Saber Spark finding out

1012
00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:40,000
themselves from Saber Spark finding out
 

1013
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,669
themselves from Saber Spark finding out
it's them makes no sense. Because if

1014
00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:43,679
it's them makes no sense. Because if
 

1015
00:21:43,679 --> 00:21:45,909
it's them makes no sense. Because if
this is true, Saber Spark will

1016
00:21:45,909 --> 00:21:45,919
this is true, Saber Spark will
 

1017
00:21:45,919 --> 00:21:48,990
this is true, Saber Spark will
immediately know who is making the

1018
00:21:48,990 --> 00:21:49,000
immediately know who is making the
 

1019
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,750
immediately know who is making the
accusation. Here's the problem though uh

1020
00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:51,760
accusation. Here's the problem though uh
 

1021
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,070
accusation. Here's the problem though uh
with that

1022
00:21:53,070 --> 00:21:53,080
with that
 

1023
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,470
with that
inherently. If that did happen, and

1024
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:56,480
inherently. If that did happen, and
 

1025
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,870
inherently. If that did happen, and
Saber did do that, he will by nature

1026
00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:58,880
Saber did do that, he will by nature
 

1027
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,070
Saber did do that, he will by nature
know who it is. So, if it gets out in

1028
00:22:02,070 --> 00:22:02,080
know who it is. So, if it gets out in
 

1029
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,149
know who it is. So, if it gets out in
any way, shape, or form, and a police

1030
00:22:04,149 --> 00:22:04,159
any way, shape, or form, and a police
 

1031
00:22:04,159 --> 00:22:06,230
any way, shape, or form, and a police
report hasn't been filed, she's going to

1032
00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:06,240
report hasn't been filed, she's going to
 

1033
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,630
report hasn't been filed, she's going to
be at risk. Like, that's just the truth

1034
00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:08,640
be at risk. Like, that's just the truth
 

1035
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,669
be at risk. Like, that's just the truth
of the matter in this. And it's

1036
00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:09,679
of the matter in this. And it's
 

1037
00:22:09,679 --> 00:22:11,190
of the matter in this. And it's
unpleasant. It's ugly, but that's the

1038
00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:11,200
unpleasant. It's ugly, but that's the
 

1039
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,350
unpleasant. It's ugly, but that's the
truth.

1040
00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:13,360
truth.
 

1041
00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:15,590
truth.
These sentiments from Lio would broadly

1042
00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:15,600
These sentiments from Lio would broadly
 

1043
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,470
These sentiments from Lio would broadly
be reiterated to the accuser when he got

1044
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:18,480
be reiterated to the accuser when he got
 

1045
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,710
be reiterated to the accuser when he got
in a conversation with her because

1046
00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:20,720
in a conversation with her because
 

1047
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,710
in a conversation with her because
whatever else you want to say about Lio

1048
00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:22,720
whatever else you want to say about Lio
 

1049
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,149
whatever else you want to say about Lio
Convoy, and believe me, I understand,

1050
00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:26,159
Convoy, and believe me, I understand,
 

1051
00:22:26,159 --> 00:22:28,710
Convoy, and believe me, I understand,
even he sees the inherent risks of

1052
00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:28,720
even he sees the inherent risks of
 

1053
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,430
even he sees the inherent risks of
running a story like this, noting that

1054
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:31,440
running a story like this, noting that
 

1055
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,190
running a story like this, noting that
it may open KP up to a defamation suit.

1056
00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:35,200
it may open KP up to a defamation suit.
 

1057
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,029
it may open KP up to a defamation suit.
They'd continue to go back and forth on

1058
00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:37,039
They'd continue to go back and forth on
 

1059
00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:39,350
They'd continue to go back and forth on
this topic for a while with the accuser

1060
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:39,360
this topic for a while with the accuser
 

1061
00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:41,510
this topic for a while with the accuser
pushing back that filing a report may

1062
00:22:41,510 --> 00:22:41,520
pushing back that filing a report may
 

1063
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,909
pushing back that filing a report may
allow Sabre to find out who she is.

1064
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:43,919
allow Sabre to find out who she is.
 

1065
00:22:43,919 --> 00:22:46,470
allow Sabre to find out who she is.
Though the accuser does accept by the

1066
00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:46,480
Though the accuser does accept by the
 

1067
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,590
Though the accuser does accept by the
end that releasing this story at all

1068
00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:49,600
end that releasing this story at all
 

1069
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,430
end that releasing this story at all
means that Sabre will be able to

1070
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:51,440
means that Sabre will be able to
 

1071
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,789
means that Sabre will be able to
identify her, which makes this entire

1072
00:22:53,789 --> 00:22:53,799
identify her, which makes this entire
 

1073
00:22:53,799 --> 00:22:57,430
identify her, which makes this entire
interaction again very, very bizarre.

1074
00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:57,440
interaction again very, very bizarre.
 

1075
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,430
interaction again very, very bizarre.
I'd also like to point out that this

1076
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:59,440
I'd also like to point out that this
 

1077
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,789
I'd also like to point out that this
account, Sunspecs, was created

1078
00:23:01,789 --> 00:23:01,799
account, Sunspecs, was created
 

1079
00:23:01,799 --> 00:23:03,909
account, Sunspecs, was created
specifically to have this conversation

1080
00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:03,919
specifically to have this conversation
 

1081
00:23:03,919 --> 00:23:06,470
specifically to have this conversation
with Lio, as the accuser further

1082
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:06,480
with Lio, as the accuser further
 

1083
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,190
with Lio, as the accuser further
obiscates their actual identity. And

1084
00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:09,200
obiscates their actual identity. And
 

1085
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,830
obiscates their actual identity. And
when Lio refuses to budge that a police

1086
00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:11,840
when Lio refuses to budge that a police
 

1087
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,230
when Lio refuses to budge that a police
report is required, the accuser would

1088
00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:14,240
report is required, the accuser would
 

1089
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,149
report is required, the accuser would
essentially ghost him and refuse to

1090
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:16,159
essentially ghost him and refuse to
 

1091
00:23:16,159 --> 00:23:19,510
essentially ghost him and refuse to
communicate any further. So, who is this

1092
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:19,520
communicate any further. So, who is this
 

1093
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,149
communicate any further. So, who is this
mysterious accuser? Well, that would be

1094
00:23:22,149 --> 00:23:22,159
mysterious accuser? Well, that would be
 

1095
00:23:22,159 --> 00:23:24,950
mysterious accuser? Well, that would be
a woman by the name of Emu Emmy. Now,

1096
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:24,960
a woman by the name of Emu Emmy. Now,
 

1097
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,270
a woman by the name of Emu Emmy. Now,
how do I know that? Well, there were a

1098
00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:27,280
how do I know that? Well, there were a
 

1099
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,270
how do I know that? Well, there were a
few reasons. There was a large amount of

1100
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:29,280
few reasons. There was a large amount of
 

1101
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,710
few reasons. There was a large amount of
circumstantial evidence that was

1102
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:30,720
circumstantial evidence that was
 

1103
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,789
circumstantial evidence that was
compiled in a Google document a week or

1104
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:32,799
compiled in a Google document a week or
 

1105
00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:35,270
compiled in a Google document a week or
so ago. This spread like wildfire and

1106
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:35,280
so ago. This spread like wildfire and
 

1107
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,029
so ago. This spread like wildfire and
led to her name being shared in multiple

1108
00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:37,039
led to her name being shared in multiple
 

1109
00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:39,990
led to her name being shared in multiple
chats. We also have these vague posts

1110
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:40,000
chats. We also have these vague posts
 

1111
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,110
chats. We also have these vague posts
from Casey, the partner of Saber Sparks

1112
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:43,120
from Casey, the partner of Saber Sparks
 

1113
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:46,470
from Casey, the partner of Saber Sparks
editor. But I have to admit I was

1114
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:46,480
editor. But I have to admit I was
 

1115
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,430
editor. But I have to admit I was
slightly ahead of the curve here because

1116
00:23:49,430 --> 00:23:49,440
slightly ahead of the curve here because
 

1117
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,630
slightly ahead of the curve here because
before any of this was public, Emmy had

1118
00:23:52,630 --> 00:23:52,640
before any of this was public, Emmy had
 

1119
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,230
before any of this was public, Emmy had
provided a Dropbox link to a video as

1120
00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:56,240
provided a Dropbox link to a video as
 

1121
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,470
provided a Dropbox link to a video as
evidence that she had attended the cons

1122
00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:58,480
evidence that she had attended the cons
 

1123
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,830
evidence that she had attended the cons
in question. But Emmy is not some random

1124
00:24:01,830 --> 00:24:01,840
in question. But Emmy is not some random
 

1125
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,710
in question. But Emmy is not some random
unknown individual. She is a public

1126
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:04,720
unknown individual. She is a public
 

1127
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,510
unknown individual. She is a public
figure. Her name is public. And if you

1128
00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:07,520
figure. Her name is public. And if you
 

1129
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,669
figure. Her name is public. And if you
click on more information on this

1130
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:09,679
click on more information on this
 

1131
00:24:09,679 --> 00:24:13,590
click on more information on this
Dropbox video, it has her name on it. It

1132
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:13,600
Dropbox video, it has her name on it. It
 

1133
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,750
Dropbox video, it has her name on it. It
is also worth me noting that at this

1134
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:15,760
is also worth me noting that at this
 

1135
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,909
is also worth me noting that at this
point now that Saber Sparks response is

1136
00:24:17,909 --> 00:24:17,919
point now that Saber Sparks response is
 

1137
00:24:17,919 --> 00:24:21,029
point now that Saber Sparks response is
out, Emmy has been on the record with

1138
00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:21,039
out, Emmy has been on the record with
 

1139
00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:23,830
out, Emmy has been on the record with
other content creators talking at length

1140
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:23,840
other content creators talking at length
 

1141
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,710
other content creators talking at length
about these accusations and herself. And

1142
00:24:26,710 --> 00:24:26,720
about these accusations and herself. And
 

1143
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,669
about these accusations and herself. And
yes, I was offered this recording. And

1144
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:29,679
yes, I was offered this recording. And
 

1145
00:24:29,679 --> 00:24:31,510
yes, I was offered this recording. And
the fact that such a large content

1146
00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:31,520
the fact that such a large content
 

1147
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,750
the fact that such a large content
creator, somebody who has literally been

1148
00:24:33,750 --> 00:24:33,760
creator, somebody who has literally been
 

1149
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,029
creator, somebody who has literally been
on Dr. Phil would try to platform these

1150
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:37,039
on Dr. Phil would try to platform these
 

1151
00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:39,830
on Dr. Phil would try to platform these
accusations anonymously is an element

1152
00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:39,840
accusations anonymously is an element
 

1153
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,190
accusations anonymously is an element
that deserves discussion and analysis.

1154
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:43,200
that deserves discussion and analysis.
 

1155
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,390
that deserves discussion and analysis.
Lio would also get me in contact with KP

1156
00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:46,400
Lio would also get me in contact with KP
 

1157
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,190
Lio would also get me in contact with KP
which is why he is in the first call and

1158
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:49,200
which is why he is in the first call and
 

1159
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,990
which is why he is in the first call and
KP would provide confirmation that it

1160
00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:52,000
KP would provide confirmation that it
 

1161
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,710
KP would provide confirmation that it
was Emmy. I expect you're also wondering

1162
00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:54,720
was Emmy. I expect you're also wondering
 

1163
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,549
was Emmy. I expect you're also wondering
when this information became available

1164
00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:56,559
when this information became available
 

1165
00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:59,350
when this information became available
to KP herself. And I'll be honest with

1166
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:59,360
to KP herself. And I'll be honest with
 

1167
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:01,590
to KP herself. And I'll be honest with
you, that was also something I was quite

1168
00:25:01,590 --> 00:25:01,600
you, that was also something I was quite
 

1169
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,269
you, that was also something I was quite
curious to know.

1170
00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:03,279
curious to know.
 

1171
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:08,390
curious to know.
So, whatever. When When did you know?

1172
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:08,400
So, whatever. When When did you know?
 

1173
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,750
So, whatever. When When did you know?
When did I know it was Emmy? Yes. At the

1174
00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:11,760
When did I know it was Emmy? Yes. At the
 

1175
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,590
When did I know it was Emmy? Yes. At the
beginning, right? Okay. Okay.

1176
00:25:16,590 --> 00:25:16,600
beginning, right? Okay. Okay.
 

1177
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,190
beginning, right? Okay. Okay.
So from from sort of an outside

1178
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:19,200
So from from sort of an outside
 

1179
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,230
So from from sort of an outside
perspective, one of the big

1180
00:25:21,230 --> 00:25:21,240
perspective, one of the big
 

1181
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,310
perspective, one of the big
difficulties I I guess with this story

1182
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:24,320
difficulties I I guess with this story
 

1183
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,710
difficulties I I guess with this story
is you

1184
00:25:25,710 --> 00:25:25,720
is you
 

1185
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,430
is you
have a a reasonably sized creator uh for

1186
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:29,440
have a a reasonably sized creator uh for
 

1187
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,230
have a a reasonably sized creator uh for
this space coming out anonymously

1188
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:34,240
this space coming out anonymously
 

1189
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,549
this space coming out anonymously
um with a very long history with this

1190
00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:36,559
um with a very long history with this
 

1191
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:38,549
um with a very long history with this
group. I mean, they, you know, they they

1192
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:38,559
group. I mean, they, you know, they they
 

1193
00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:41,430
group. I mean, they, you know, they they
certainly interacted with Sabre uh and

1194
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:41,440
certainly interacted with Sabre uh and
 

1195
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,269
certainly interacted with Sabre uh and
everyone else in this, you know, around

1196
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:43,279
everyone else in this, you know, around
 

1197
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:47,789
everyone else in this, you know, around
the DA group for a a long period of

1198
00:25:47,789 --> 00:25:47,799

 

1199
00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:50,870

time. I I am surprised you didn't look

1200
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:50,880
time. I I am surprised you didn't look
 

1201
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,190
time. I I am surprised you didn't look
into anything about them or question the

1202
00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:53,200
into anything about them or question the
 

1203
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,549
into anything about them or question the
fact that they were coming out with this

1204
00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:55,559
fact that they were coming out with this
 

1205
00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:58,630
fact that they were coming out with this
anonymously. Um, well, the anonymous

1206
00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:58,640
anonymously. Um, well, the anonymous
 

1207
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,630
anonymously. Um, well, the anonymous
part seemed clear. She was afraid that

1208
00:26:00,630 --> 00:26:00,640
part seemed clear. She was afraid that
 

1209
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,789
part seemed clear. She was afraid that
she was get going to get harassed and

1210
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:02,799
she was get going to get harassed and
 

1211
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:06,789
she was get going to get harassed and
with my interactions with Saber. um and

1212
00:26:06,789 --> 00:26:06,799
with my interactions with Saber. um and
 

1213
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:08,830
with my interactions with Saber. um and
like other people's interactions with

1214
00:26:08,830 --> 00:26:08,840
like other people's interactions with
 

1215
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,909
like other people's interactions with
Saber will he'll try to kind of use his

1216
00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:11,919
Saber will he'll try to kind of use his
 

1217
00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:17,310
Saber will he'll try to kind of use his
platform

1218
00:26:17,310 --> 00:26:17,320

 

1219
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,390

to I I guess I guess kind of

1220
00:26:21,390 --> 00:26:21,400
to I I guess I guess kind of
 

1221
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,750
to I I guess I guess kind of
um shake people a little bit. That's

1222
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:23,760
um shake people a little bit. That's
 

1223
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,950
um shake people a little bit. That's
what he tried to do with me at least. Um

1224
00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:26,960
what he tried to do with me at least. Um
 

1225
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,669
what he tried to do with me at least. Um
seemingly

1226
00:26:28,669 --> 00:26:28,679
seemingly
 

1227
00:26:28,679 --> 00:26:31,350
seemingly
um I I guess I didn't question that. So,

1228
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:31,360
um I I guess I didn't question that. So,
 

1229
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:32,870
um I I guess I didn't question that. So,
like I guess suffice to say I was

1230
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:32,880
like I guess suffice to say I was
 

1231
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,510
like I guess suffice to say I was
[\h__\h] stupid and you know this is

1232
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:35,520
[\h__\h] stupid and you know this is
 

1233
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,350
[\h__\h] stupid and you know this is
going to be another long week. I don't

1234
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:37,360
going to be another long week. I don't
 

1235
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:38,630
going to be another long week. I don't
really know what to tell you besides

1236
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:38,640
really know what to tell you besides
 

1237
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,190
really know what to tell you besides
that. Before we move forward, we should

1238
00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:41,200
that. Before we move forward, we should
 

1239
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,230
that. Before we move forward, we should
probably talk about who exactly Emmy is,

1240
00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:44,240
probably talk about who exactly Emmy is,
 

1241
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,710
probably talk about who exactly Emmy is,
as that may shed a little light on why

1242
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:46,720
as that may shed a little light on why
 

1243
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,750
as that may shed a little light on why
they may wish to remain

1244
00:26:48,750 --> 00:26:48,760
they may wish to remain
 

1245
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,830
they may wish to remain
anonymous. Emmy Jones is best known, at

1246
00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:51,840
anonymous. Emmy Jones is best known, at
 

1247
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,390
anonymous. Emmy Jones is best known, at
least from a drama perspective, for

1248
00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:54,400
least from a drama perspective, for
 

1249
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,549
least from a drama perspective, for
engaging in an affair with Ryan

1250
00:26:56,549 --> 00:26:56,559
engaging in an affair with Ryan
 

1251
00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:59,510
engaging in an affair with Ryan
Drummond, one of the Sonic voice actors.

1252
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:59,520
Drummond, one of the Sonic voice actors.
 

1253
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,789
Drummond, one of the Sonic voice actors.
and she is generally deeply disliked by

1254
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:02,799
and she is generally deeply disliked by
 

1255
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:05,350
and she is generally deeply disliked by
the Sonic fandom despite the fact that

1256
00:27:05,350 --> 00:27:05,360
the Sonic fandom despite the fact that
 

1257
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,830
the Sonic fandom despite the fact that
like any good fan would, she did

1258
00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:07,840
like any good fan would, she did
 

1259
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,310
like any good fan would, she did
apparently get him to do the voice. But

1260
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:10,320
apparently get him to do the voice. But
 

1261
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,630
apparently get him to do the voice. But
if this was her only controversy, I

1262
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:12,640
if this was her only controversy, I
 

1263
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,310
if this was her only controversy, I
don't think it would be relevant.

1264
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:14,320
don't think it would be relevant.
 

1265
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,110
don't think it would be relevant.
However, Emmy has a long history of

1266
00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:17,120
However, Emmy has a long history of
 

1267
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,590
However, Emmy has a long history of
being an unreliable narrator or at least

1268
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:19,600
being an unreliable narrator or at least
 

1269
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,630
being an unreliable narrator or at least
being seen as such. I said earlier that

1270
00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:22,640
being seen as such. I said earlier that
 

1271
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,029
being seen as such. I said earlier that
she's been on Dr. Phil. And while this

1272
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:25,039
she's been on Dr. Phil. And while this
 

1273
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:27,590
she's been on Dr. Phil. And while this
was just a rumor for a while, Emmy would

1274
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:27,600
was just a rumor for a while, Emmy would
 

1275
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,669
was just a rumor for a while, Emmy would
come out in the comments section of that

1276
00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:29,679
come out in the comments section of that
 

1277
00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:33,029
come out in the comments section of that
video confirming it was her at 16 on an

1278
00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:33,039
video confirming it was her at 16 on an
 

1279
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:34,789
video confirming it was her at 16 on an
episode talking about how she wanted to

1280
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:34,799
episode talking about how she wanted to
 

1281
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:37,110
episode talking about how she wanted to
become a teen mother. Now, it is not

1282
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:37,120
become a teen mother. Now, it is not
 

1283
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:39,110
become a teen mother. Now, it is not
unusual for a content creator who's been

1284
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:39,120
unusual for a content creator who's been
 

1285
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:40,950
unusual for a content creator who's been
around this long to have their fair

1286
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:40,960
around this long to have their fair
 

1287
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,590
around this long to have their fair
share of dramas. But Emmys have a

1288
00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:43,600
share of dramas. But Emmys have a
 

1289
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,470
share of dramas. But Emmys have a
particular flavor, and they come in two

1290
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:46,480
particular flavor, and they come in two
 

1291
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,430
particular flavor, and they come in two
parts. Firstly, Ryan Drummond is not

1292
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:49,440
parts. Firstly, Ryan Drummond is not
 

1293
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,630
parts. Firstly, Ryan Drummond is not
Emy's only sex scandal. Now, obviously,

1294
00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:52,640
Emy's only sex scandal. Now, obviously,
 

1295
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,470
Emy's only sex scandal. Now, obviously,
there's the Dr. Phil episode, but she's

1296
00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:54,480
there's the Dr. Phil episode, but she's
 

1297
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,549
there's the Dr. Phil episode, but she's
also been accused of using her, shall we

1298
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:56,559
also been accused of using her, shall we
 

1299
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:59,830
also been accused of using her, shall we
say, assets to force other voice actors

1300
00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:59,840
say, assets to force other voice actors
 

1301
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,470
say, assets to force other voice actors
out of roles that she wants. If she

1302
00:28:02,470 --> 00:28:02,480
out of roles that she wants. If she
 

1303
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,909
out of roles that she wants. If she
wants to get onto a project, she has to

1304
00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:03,919
wants to get onto a project, she has to
 

1305
00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:05,430
wants to get onto a project, she has to
brute force her way in. And normally,

1306
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:05,440
brute force her way in. And normally,
 

1307
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,789
brute force her way in. And normally,
she does this by sleeping with whoever

1308
00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:06,799
she does this by sleeping with whoever
 

1309
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:08,549
she does this by sleeping with whoever
she can get her hands on. This is what

1310
00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:08,559
she can get her hands on. This is what
 

1311
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:10,470
she can get her hands on. This is what
ended up happening with Wrath of Nazo.

1312
00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:10,480
ended up happening with Wrath of Nazo.
 

1313
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,070
ended up happening with Wrath of Nazo.
Originally, the project starred Spirit

1314
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:12,080
Originally, the project starred Spirit
 

1315
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,310
Originally, the project starred Spirit
of the Blue as Sonic, and his best

1316
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:14,320
of the Blue as Sonic, and his best
 

1317
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,230
of the Blue as Sonic, and his best
friend, Blue-Eyed Fox, was voicing

1318
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:16,240
friend, Blue-Eyed Fox, was voicing
 

1319
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,149
friend, Blue-Eyed Fox, was voicing
Tales. Emmy wanted in on this project

1320
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:18,159
Tales. Emmy wanted in on this project
 

1321
00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:19,669
Tales. Emmy wanted in on this project
because she had a thing for Spirit of

1322
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:19,679
because she had a thing for Spirit of
 

1323
00:28:19,679 --> 00:28:21,990
because she had a thing for Spirit of
the Blue and she wasn't exactly happy

1324
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:22,000
the Blue and she wasn't exactly happy
 

1325
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,190
the Blue and she wasn't exactly happy
that somebody else was voicing Tails, no

1326
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:25,200
that somebody else was voicing Tails, no
 

1327
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,710
that somebody else was voicing Tails, no
less this person's best friend. So Emmy

1328
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:28,720
less this person's best friend. So Emmy
 

1329
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,590
less this person's best friend. So Emmy
slept with Spirit of the Blue so she

1330
00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:31,600
slept with Spirit of the Blue so she
 

1331
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,470
slept with Spirit of the Blue so she
could replace Blue-Eyed Fox. It is worth

1332
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:34,480
could replace Blue-Eyed Fox. It is worth
 

1333
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,630
could replace Blue-Eyed Fox. It is worth
noting here that all of this does in

1334
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:36,640
noting here that all of this does in
 

1335
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,350
noting here that all of this does in
some way come from bias sources as we

1336
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:39,360
some way come from bias sources as we
 

1337
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,110
some way come from bias sources as we
see the theme of much of this being

1338
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:41,120
see the theme of much of this being
 

1339
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,990
see the theme of much of this being
based on testimony continue. But the

1340
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:44,000
based on testimony continue. But the
 

1341
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,070
based on testimony continue. But the
second flavor of controversy Emmy is

1342
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:46,080
second flavor of controversy Emmy is
 

1343
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,389
second flavor of controversy Emmy is
known for is sympathy baiting. While

1344
00:28:48,389 --> 00:28:48,399
known for is sympathy baiting. While
 

1345
00:28:48,399 --> 00:28:49,990
known for is sympathy baiting. While
there is the standard, I'm being

1346
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:50,000
there is the standard, I'm being
 

1347
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,310
there is the standard, I'm being
harassed comment that you'll see from

1348
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:52,320
harassed comment that you'll see from
 

1349
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,870
harassed comment that you'll see from
any run-of-the-mill creator, perhaps

1350
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:54,880
any run-of-the-mill creator, perhaps
 

1351
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,350
any run-of-the-mill creator, perhaps
most damning here is accusations that

1352
00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:57,360
most damning here is accusations that
 

1353
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,070
most damning here is accusations that
any on multiple occasions has scammed

1354
00:29:00,070 --> 00:29:00,080
any on multiple occasions has scammed
 

1355
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,950
any on multiple occasions has scammed
her audience through GoFundMe schemes,

1356
00:29:02,950 --> 00:29:02,960
her audience through GoFundMe schemes,
 

1357
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,029
her audience through GoFundMe schemes,
asking for money for a variety of

1358
00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:05,039
asking for money for a variety of
 

1359
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:07,350
asking for money for a variety of
ailments before mysteriously appearing

1360
00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:07,360
ailments before mysteriously appearing
 

1361
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,909
ailments before mysteriously appearing
at conventions or on holiday. In the

1362
00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:09,919
at conventions or on holiday. In the
 

1363
00:29:09,919 --> 00:29:11,430
at conventions or on holiday. In the
interest of balance, I would like to

1364
00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:11,440
interest of balance, I would like to
 

1365
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,830
interest of balance, I would like to
challenge at least part of this because

1366
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:13,840
challenge at least part of this because
 

1367
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,430
challenge at least part of this because
when it comes to the claim that she used

1368
00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:15,440
when it comes to the claim that she used
 

1369
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,909
when it comes to the claim that she used
this money to attend conventions, that

1370
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:17,919
this money to attend conventions, that
 

1371
00:29:17,919 --> 00:29:20,310
this money to attend conventions, that
doesn't seem to be true. As when it

1372
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:20,320
doesn't seem to be true. As when it
 

1373
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,149
doesn't seem to be true. As when it
comes to this period, she appears to

1374
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:22,159
comes to this period, she appears to
 

1375
00:29:22,159 --> 00:29:23,909
comes to this period, she appears to
have had a good working relationship

1376
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:23,919
have had a good working relationship
 

1377
00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:26,310
have had a good working relationship
with Sega, who would have covered her

1378
00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:26,320
with Sega, who would have covered her
 

1379
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,269
with Sega, who would have covered her
attendance. This is not to say whether I

1380
00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:29,279
attendance. This is not to say whether I
 

1381
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:31,830
attendance. This is not to say whether I
think Emmy is guilty or innocent of any

1382
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:31,840
think Emmy is guilty or innocent of any
 

1383
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,470
think Emmy is guilty or innocent of any
of these accusations, but she does have

1384
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:34,480
of these accusations, but she does have
 

1385
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,710
of these accusations, but she does have
an undeniable pattern when it comes to

1386
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:36,720
an undeniable pattern when it comes to
 

1387
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,750
an undeniable pattern when it comes to
drama, which is damaging in this case

1388
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:39,760
drama, which is damaging in this case
 

1389
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,590
drama, which is damaging in this case
because regardless of the validity of

1390
00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:41,600
because regardless of the validity of
 

1391
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,830
because regardless of the validity of
these claims against Saber Spark, they

1392
00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:43,840
these claims against Saber Spark, they
 

1393
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,789
these claims against Saber Spark, they
do fit within this motif. There are of

1394
00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:46,799
do fit within this motif. There are of
 

1395
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:49,510
do fit within this motif. There are of
course no perfect victims and none of us

1396
00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:49,520
course no perfect victims and none of us
 

1397
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,909
course no perfect victims and none of us
should have those expectations. But in a

1398
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:51,919
should have those expectations. But in a
 

1399
00:29:51,919 --> 00:29:53,990
should have those expectations. But in a
case like this where there is no

1400
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:54,000
case like this where there is no
 

1401
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,710
case like this where there is no
evidence for the accusations being made,

1402
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:56,720
evidence for the accusations being made,
 

1403
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,549
evidence for the accusations being made,
the credibility of the accuser is

1404
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:58,559
the credibility of the accuser is
 

1405
00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:01,510
the credibility of the accuser is
basically all I or anyone else has to go

1406
00:30:01,510 --> 00:30:01,520
basically all I or anyone else has to go
 

1407
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,750
basically all I or anyone else has to go
on. Now, when other people have looked

1408
00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:03,760
on. Now, when other people have looked
 

1409
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,909
on. Now, when other people have looked
into it, what they found is a video

1410
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:05,919
into it, what they found is a video
 

1411
00:30:05,919 --> 00:30:09,190
into it, what they found is a video
called The Queen Fools by Lance Jerkov,

1412
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:09,200
called The Queen Fools by Lance Jerkov,
 

1413
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,110
called The Queen Fools by Lance Jerkov,
and I'm going to lay my cards on the

1414
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:11,120
and I'm going to lay my cards on the
 

1415
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,830
and I'm going to lay my cards on the
table here. I have a bit of an issue

1416
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:13,840
table here. I have a bit of an issue
 

1417
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,110
table here. I have a bit of an issue
with this video, and it feels a touch

1418
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:17,120
with this video, and it feels a touch
 

1419
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,070
with this video, and it feels a touch
like a microcosm of this entire drama.

1420
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:20,080
like a microcosm of this entire drama.
 

1421
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,470
like a microcosm of this entire drama.
And that's alongside her reputation as a

1422
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:22,480
And that's alongside her reputation as a
 

1423
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,350
And that's alongside her reputation as a
backstreet girl and a bad mother being

1424
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:25,360
backstreet girl and a bad mother being
 

1425
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,510
backstreet girl and a bad mother being
so wellknown in this fandom that

1426
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:27,520
so wellknown in this fandom that
 

1427
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,110
so wellknown in this fandom that
apparently people are just talking about

1428
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:29,120
apparently people are just talking about
 

1429
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,430
apparently people are just talking about
it openly with the final nail in the

1430
00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:31,440
it openly with the final nail in the
 

1431
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,350
it openly with the final nail in the
coffin being her association with anime

1432
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:33,360
coffin being her association with anime
 

1433
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,870
coffin being her association with anime
James and Toon critic Y2K two men who

1434
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:36,880
James and Toon critic Y2K two men who
 

1435
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,870
James and Toon critic Y2K two men who
let's just say had a similar interest in

1436
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:38,880
let's just say had a similar interest in
 

1437
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,830
let's just say had a similar interest in
women to Jared Fogle because much of

1438
00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:41,840
women to Jared Fogle because much of
 

1439
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,870
women to Jared Fogle because much of
what is presented is a fragment of

1440
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:44,880
what is presented is a fragment of
 

1441
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,029
what is presented is a fragment of
evidence and then an awful lot of

1442
00:30:48,029 --> 00:30:48,039
evidence and then an awful lot of
 

1443
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:50,310
evidence and then an awful lot of
speculation and this is True, even of

1444
00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:50,320
speculation and this is True, even of
 

1445
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,549
speculation and this is True, even of
the Drummond stuff. Yes, they had an

1446
00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:52,559
the Drummond stuff. Yes, they had an
 

1447
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,750
the Drummond stuff. Yes, they had an
affair, but we have no idea what that

1448
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:55,760
affair, but we have no idea what that
 

1449
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,070
affair, but we have no idea what that
actually looked like. And it's used to

1450
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:58,080
actually looked like. And it's used to
 

1451
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,950
actually looked like. And it's used to
paint Emmy as a home wrecking [\h__\h] who

1452
00:31:00,950 --> 00:31:00,960
paint Emmy as a home wrecking [\h__\h] who
 

1453
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,950
paint Emmy as a home wrecking [\h__\h] who
actively tried to destroy Drummond's

1454
00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:02,960
actively tried to destroy Drummond's
 

1455
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,269
actively tried to destroy Drummond's
marriage. The fandom then does exactly

1456
00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:05,279
marriage. The fandom then does exactly
 

1457
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:07,510
marriage. The fandom then does exactly
what you'd expect. They treat Drummond

1458
00:31:07,510 --> 00:31:07,520
what you'd expect. They treat Drummond
 

1459
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,149
what you'd expect. They treat Drummond
as though he has no agency, and he is a

1460
00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:10,159
as though he has no agency, and he is a
 

1461
00:31:10,159 --> 00:31:13,430
as though he has no agency, and he is a
victim of some insane eth. Later on in

1462
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:13,440
victim of some insane eth. Later on in
 

1463
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,110
victim of some insane eth. Later on in
the video, Lance would also present

1464
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:15,120
the video, Lance would also present
 

1465
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,990
the video, Lance would also present
testimony from Steven Seers, a now

1466
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:18,000
testimony from Steven Seers, a now
 

1467
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,070
testimony from Steven Seers, a now
police officer but former employee of

1468
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:20,080
police officer but former employee of
 

1469
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,269
police officer but former employee of
Sierra Games. But Emmy denies even

1470
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:23,279
Sierra Games. But Emmy denies even
 

1471
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:26,789
Sierra Games. But Emmy denies even
knowing this person. And if it is true,

1472
00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:26,799
knowing this person. And if it is true,
 

1473
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:29,430
knowing this person. And if it is true,
the implications are incredibly [\h__\h]

1474
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:29,440
the implications are incredibly [\h__\h]
 

1475
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,230
the implications are incredibly [\h__\h]
up because the dates that Seers

1476
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:32,240
up because the dates that Seers
 

1477
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,549
up because the dates that Seers
originally gives would mean that Emmy

1478
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:34,559
originally gives would mean that Emmy
 

1479
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:36,950
originally gives would mean that Emmy
was a minor at the time. When Sees is

1480
00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:36,960
was a minor at the time. When Sees is
 

1481
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,269
was a minor at the time. When Sees is
confronted on this fact, he quickly

1482
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:39,279
confronted on this fact, he quickly
 

1483
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:42,070
confronted on this fact, he quickly
shifts position to saying it must have

1484
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:42,080
shifts position to saying it must have
 

1485
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,509
shifts position to saying it must have
occurred in 2013. But that makes little

1486
00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:45,519
occurred in 2013. But that makes little
 

1487
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:48,350
occurred in 2013. But that makes little
sense with the overall timeline of Emy's

1488
00:31:48,350 --> 00:31:48,360
sense with the overall timeline of Emy's
 

1489
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,789
sense with the overall timeline of Emy's
career. Irregardless, I don't know why

1490
00:31:50,789 --> 00:31:50,799
career. Irregardless, I don't know why
 

1491
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:53,029
career. Irregardless, I don't know why
we're taking the testimony of a guy who,

1492
00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:53,039
we're taking the testimony of a guy who,
 

1493
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:55,269
we're taking the testimony of a guy who,
while trying to [\h__\h] on this chick,

1494
00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:55,279
while trying to [\h__\h] on this chick,
 

1495
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:57,430
while trying to [\h__\h] on this chick,
managed to make himself look like a

1496
00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:57,440
managed to make himself look like a
 

1497
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,669
managed to make himself look like a
nons. Now, none of this should be

1498
00:31:59,669 --> 00:31:59,679
nons. Now, none of this should be
 

1499
00:31:59,679 --> 00:32:01,269
nons. Now, none of this should be
treated as though I'm trying to mount

1500
00:32:01,269 --> 00:32:01,279
treated as though I'm trying to mount
 

1501
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:03,750
treated as though I'm trying to mount
some kind of defense of Emmy. I've got

1502
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:03,760
some kind of defense of Emmy. I've got
 

1503
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,230
some kind of defense of Emmy. I've got
my own opinions on the allegations, but

1504
00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:06,240
my own opinions on the allegations, but
 

1505
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,990
my own opinions on the allegations, but
she won't talk to me. I have tried

1506
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:08,000
she won't talk to me. I have tried
 

1507
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,310
she won't talk to me. I have tried
reaching out to have a conversation.

1508
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:10,320
reaching out to have a conversation.
 

1509
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,950
reaching out to have a conversation.
She's simply not

1510
00:32:11,950 --> 00:32:11,960
She's simply not
 

1511
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,389
She's simply not
interested. Rather, what I'm trying to

1512
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:14,399
interested. Rather, what I'm trying to
 

1513
00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:16,789
interested. Rather, what I'm trying to
show you is that this community

1514
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:16,799
show you is that this community
 

1515
00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:19,789
show you is that this community
regularly works of halftruths and

1516
00:32:19,789 --> 00:32:19,799
regularly works of halftruths and
 

1517
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:22,870
regularly works of halftruths and
rumors. And that's pretty problematic

1518
00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:22,880
rumors. And that's pretty problematic
 

1519
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,029
rumors. And that's pretty problematic
when we're talking about very serious

1520
00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:25,039
when we're talking about very serious
 

1521
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:28,710
when we're talking about very serious
allegations. Even this video from Lance,

1522
00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:28,720
allegations. Even this video from Lance,
 

1523
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,509
allegations. Even this video from Lance,
great example, because I was asking the

1524
00:32:31,509 --> 00:32:31,519
great example, because I was asking the
 

1525
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:33,110
great example, because I was asking the
question as to why somebody would drop a

1526
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:33,120
question as to why somebody would drop a
 

1527
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,029
question as to why somebody would drop a
video like this when they've got a

1528
00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:35,039
video like this when they've got a
 

1529
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:37,269
video like this when they've got a
fairly consistent upload schedule and

1530
00:32:37,269 --> 00:32:37,279
fairly consistent upload schedule and
 

1531
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:39,190
fairly consistent upload schedule and
then seemingly vanish from their channel

1532
00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:39,200
then seemingly vanish from their channel
 

1533
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,509
then seemingly vanish from their channel
and not upload for a year. And when I

1534
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:41,519
and not upload for a year. And when I
 

1535
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:43,750
and not upload for a year. And when I
went looking for that answer, multiple

1536
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:43,760
went looking for that answer, multiple
 

1537
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,990
went looking for that answer, multiple
people would tell me that Lance had

1538
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:46,000
people would tell me that Lance had
 

1539
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,630
people would tell me that Lance had
allegations against him. No one provided

1540
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:48,640
allegations against him. No one provided
 

1541
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,430
allegations against him. No one provided
any evidence for this, but if anything,

1542
00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:51,440
any evidence for this, but if anything,
 

1543
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,149
any evidence for this, but if anything,
that's exactly what I'd expect.

1544
00:32:54,149 --> 00:32:54,159
that's exactly what I'd expect.
 

1545
00:32:54,159 --> 00:32:57,750
that's exactly what I'd expect.
This has obviously become so normalized

1546
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:57,760
This has obviously become so normalized
 

1547
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,630
This has obviously become so normalized
for this community. And so now as we

1548
00:33:00,630 --> 00:33:00,640
for this community. And so now as we
 

1549
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,389
for this community. And so now as we
move into how these allegations were

1550
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:02,399
move into how these allegations were
 

1551
00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:05,029
move into how these allegations were
handled, it begins to make a lot more

1552
00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:05,039
handled, it begins to make a lot more
 

1553
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,110
handled, it begins to make a lot more
sense why nobody questioned these

1554
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:07,120
sense why nobody questioned these
 

1555
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,269
sense why nobody questioned these
allegations against Saber Spark before

1556
00:33:09,269 --> 00:33:09,279
allegations against Saber Spark before
 

1557
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:12,070
allegations against Saber Spark before
platforming them. Somewhat depressingly

1558
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:12,080
platforming them. Somewhat depressingly
 

1559
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,310
platforming them. Somewhat depressingly
and ironically, one of the few examples

1560
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:14,320
and ironically, one of the few examples
 

1561
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,549
and ironically, one of the few examples
I can find of anyone doing any due

1562
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:16,559
I can find of anyone doing any due
 

1563
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:19,990
I can find of anyone doing any due
diligence is actually from KP back in

1564
00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:20,000
diligence is actually from KP back in
 

1565
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,389
diligence is actually from KP back in
March when they were talking to Brony

1566
00:33:22,389 --> 00:33:22,399
March when they were talking to Brony
 

1567
00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:24,710
March when they were talking to Brony
Fandone about another victim who'd been

1568
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:24,720
Fandone about another victim who'd been
 

1569
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,269
Fandone about another victim who'd been
handed off to them and had turned tail

1570
00:33:27,269 --> 00:33:27,279
handed off to them and had turned tail
 

1571
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:29,110
handed off to them and had turned tail
and run the minute they were asked

1572
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:29,120
and run the minute they were asked
 

1573
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,310
and run the minute they were asked
difficult questions. And KP even states,

1574
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:32,320
difficult questions. And KP even states,
 

1575
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,470
difficult questions. And KP even states,
"Yeah, figured I would check cuz God

1576
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:34,480
"Yeah, figured I would check cuz God
 

1577
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,190
"Yeah, figured I would check cuz God
forbid we are wrong." A sentiment which

1578
00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:37,200
forbid we are wrong." A sentiment which
 

1579
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,430
forbid we are wrong." A sentiment which
would have been useful to keep in mind

1580
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:39,440
would have been useful to keep in mind
 

1581
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,830
would have been useful to keep in mind
when the next day rolled around and she

1582
00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:41,840
when the next day rolled around and she
 

1583
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,789
when the next day rolled around and she
was presented with Emy's victim story.

1584
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:44,799
was presented with Emy's victim story.
 

1585
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:47,029
was presented with Emy's victim story.
Emmy would be funneled towards KP

1586
00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:47,039
Emmy would be funneled towards KP
 

1587
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:49,190
Emmy would be funneled towards KP
through Bonk and Amy. For those

1588
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:49,200
through Bonk and Amy. For those
 

1589
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,190
through Bonk and Amy. For those
wondering who Amy is, the most

1590
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:51,200
wondering who Amy is, the most
 

1591
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,870
wondering who Amy is, the most
information I could get is that they are

1592
00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:52,880
information I could get is that they are
 

1593
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,029
information I could get is that they are
somebody's wife. That's that's literally

1594
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:55,039
somebody's wife. That's that's literally
 

1595
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:56,710
somebody's wife. That's that's literally
it. But apparently they'd known about

1596
00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:56,720
it. But apparently they'd known about
 

1597
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,470
it. But apparently they'd known about
this since 2015 allegedly. KP would then

1598
00:34:00,470 --> 00:34:00,480
this since 2015 allegedly. KP would then
 

1599
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,789
this since 2015 allegedly. KP would then
work with Emmy to get the statement

1600
00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:02,799
work with Emmy to get the statement
 

1601
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:05,350
work with Emmy to get the statement
prepared for release. Now, as a

1602
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:05,360
prepared for release. Now, as a
 

1603
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,990
prepared for release. Now, as a
clarifier here, there was some editing

1604
00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:08,000
clarifier here, there was some editing
 

1605
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,869
clarifier here, there was some editing
of this statement, but as I can see it

1606
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:10,879
of this statement, but as I can see it
 

1607
00:34:10,879 --> 00:34:14,389
of this statement, but as I can see it
being sent by Brony Fand, I can confirm

1608
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:14,399
being sent by Brony Fand, I can confirm
 

1609
00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:17,030
being sent by Brony Fand, I can confirm
that the bulk of Emy's statement was not

1610
00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:17,040
that the bulk of Emy's statement was not
 

1611
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,629
that the bulk of Emy's statement was not
guided or influenced by

1612
00:34:19,629 --> 00:34:19,639
guided or influenced by
 

1613
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,710
guided or influenced by
KP. Nevertheless, I was interested to

1614
00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:22,720
KP. Nevertheless, I was interested to
 

1615
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:25,909
KP. Nevertheless, I was interested to
know how much input she had had. And

1616
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:25,919
know how much input she had had. And
 

1617
00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:27,990
know how much input she had had. And
when I set Jenny to work on a little bit

1618
00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:28,000
when I set Jenny to work on a little bit
 

1619
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,629
when I set Jenny to work on a little bit
of digging, she found the Google doc

1620
00:34:30,629 --> 00:34:30,639
of digging, she found the Google doc
 

1621
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:33,510
of digging, she found the Google doc
that KP had originally put out. Now,

1622
00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:33,520
that KP had originally put out. Now,
 

1623
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,909
that KP had originally put out. Now,
because nobody knows how to protect

1624
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:35,919
because nobody knows how to protect
 

1625
00:34:35,919 --> 00:34:38,149
because nobody knows how to protect
Google documents, apparently, Jenny was

1626
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:38,159
Google documents, apparently, Jenny was
 

1627
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,550
Google documents, apparently, Jenny was
able to retrieve the edit history, which

1628
00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:40,560
able to retrieve the edit history, which
 

1629
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,310
able to retrieve the edit history, which
includes notes from KP intended to guide

1630
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:44,320
includes notes from KP intended to guide
 

1631
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,589
includes notes from KP intended to guide
Emmy in improving the statement. This

1632
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:47,599
Emmy in improving the statement. This
 

1633
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:50,149
Emmy in improving the statement. This
level of involvement is not apparent in

1634
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:50,159
level of involvement is not apparent in
 

1635
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:53,190
level of involvement is not apparent in
KP's video. She does not make it clear

1636
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:53,200
KP's video. She does not make it clear
 

1637
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,190
KP's video. She does not make it clear
that she has been working closely with

1638
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:55,200
that she has been working closely with
 

1639
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,349
that she has been working closely with
the victim before the release of this

1640
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:57,359
the victim before the release of this
 

1641
00:34:57,359 --> 00:34:59,750
the victim before the release of this
statement. This allows her in the video

1642
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:59,760
statement. This allows her in the video
 

1643
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,310
statement. This allows her in the video
to look like an impartial observer just

1644
00:35:02,310 --> 00:35:02,320
to look like an impartial observer just
 

1645
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,109
to look like an impartial observer just
reporting on these allegations, which is

1646
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:05,119
reporting on these allegations, which is
 

1647
00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:08,150
reporting on these allegations, which is
not the case. But once again, I think it

1648
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:08,160
not the case. But once again, I think it
 

1649
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,390
not the case. But once again, I think it
is best that you just hear this all from

1650
00:35:11,390 --> 00:35:11,400
is best that you just hear this all from
 

1651
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,150
is best that you just hear this all from
KP. So the there was a Google doc that

1652
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:14,160
KP. So the there was a Google doc that
 

1653
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,910
KP. So the there was a Google doc that
was posted that you did and put up with

1654
00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:17,920
was posted that you did and put up with
 

1655
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,390
was posted that you did and put up with
her basically her full statement. The

1656
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:20,400
her basically her full statement. The
 

1657
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,990
her basically her full statement. The
one that was also posted on Twitter in

1658
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:22,000
one that was also posted on Twitter in
 

1659
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,589
one that was also posted on Twitter in
screenshots.

1660
00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:23,599
screenshots.
 

1661
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:25,910
screenshots.
Oh, okay. Okay.

1662
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:25,920
Oh, okay. Okay.
 

1663
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,630
Oh, okay. Okay.
So, I guess I forgot I did that, but

1664
00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:28,640
So, I guess I forgot I did that, but
 

1665
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,069
So, I guess I forgot I did that, but
yes. How much how much influence did you

1666
00:35:32,069 --> 00:35:32,079
yes. How much how much influence did you
 

1667
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:34,790
yes. How much how much influence did you
have on that statement?

1668
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:34,800
have on that statement?
 

1669
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,430
have on that statement?
Um, I already discussed this with with

1670
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:37,440
Um, I already discussed this with with
 

1671
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,270
Um, I already discussed this with with
um

1672
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:39,280
um
 

1673
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,109
um
um Enter and um Lazy. Um I just gave

1674
00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:43,119
um Enter and um Lazy. Um I just gave
 

1675
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,430
um Enter and um Lazy. Um I just gave
critique. I gave screenshots here. I'll

1676
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:45,440
critique. I gave screenshots here. I'll
 

1677
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,349
critique. I gave screenshots here. I'll
get the screenshots of me giving

1678
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:47,359
get the screenshots of me giving
 

1679
00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:52,990
get the screenshots of me giving
critique to the to it. Um let me

1680
00:35:52,990 --> 00:35:53,000
critique to the to it. Um let me
 

1681
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,510
critique to the to it. Um let me
uh Well, I get them. That's that's my

1682
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:55,520
uh Well, I get them. That's that's my
 

1683
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,750
uh Well, I get them. That's that's my
answer. And Courtney gave feedback as

1684
00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:57,760
answer. And Courtney gave feedback as
 

1685
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,589
answer. And Courtney gave feedback as
well.

1686
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:59,599
well.
 

1687
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:01,750
well.
Okay. When you say critique, what are we

1688
00:36:01,750 --> 00:36:01,760
Okay. When you say critique, what are we
 

1689
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,310
Okay. When you say critique, what are we
talking about here?

1690
00:36:07,310 --> 00:36:07,320

 

1691
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,310

Um flow

1692
00:36:09,310 --> 00:36:09,320
Um flow
 

1693
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,310
Um flow
of

1694
00:36:11,310 --> 00:36:11,320
of
 

1695
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,750
of
things.

1696
00:36:14,750 --> 00:36:14,760

 

1697
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,390

Um that's like basic English stuff like

1698
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:18,400
Um that's like basic English stuff like
 

1699
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,670
Um that's like basic English stuff like
nothing really. the the she she wrote

1700
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:21,680
nothing really. the the she she wrote
 

1701
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,069
nothing really. the the she she wrote
most of it

1702
00:36:23,069 --> 00:36:23,079
most of it
 

1703
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:26,390
most of it
herself and I like was like let me put

1704
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:26,400
herself and I like was like let me put
 

1705
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,630
herself and I like was like let me put
this into

1706
00:36:27,630 --> 00:36:27,640
this into
 

1707
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,030
this into
paragraphs

1708
00:36:30,030 --> 00:36:30,040
paragraphs
 

1709
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,550
paragraphs
and give feedback on like the grammar

1710
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:32,560
and give feedback on like the grammar
 

1711
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,069
and give feedback on like the grammar
and the general flow of it. That was

1712
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:34,079
and the general flow of it. That was
 

1713
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:35,829
and the general flow of it. That was
really it.

1714
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:35,839
really it.
 

1715
00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:37,270
really it.
Okay, I'm just having a quick read of

1716
00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:37,280
Okay, I'm just having a quick read of
 

1717
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,470
Okay, I'm just having a quick read of
this. So, generally speaking, uh you

1718
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:40,480
this. So, generally speaking, uh you
 

1719
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,670
this. So, generally speaking, uh you
were in conversations with Emmy, um and

1720
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:45,680
were in conversations with Emmy, um and
 

1721
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,950
were in conversations with Emmy, um and
you were working on the flow of this

1722
00:36:47,950 --> 00:36:47,960
you were working on the flow of this
 

1723
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,390
you were working on the flow of this
statement to present something to the

1724
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:50,400
statement to present something to the
 

1725
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,069
statement to present something to the
public.

1726
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:52,079
public.
 

1727
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,550
public.
Mhm. I mean, I I suppose my core

1728
00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:54,560
Mhm. I mean, I I suppose my core
 

1729
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,550
Mhm. I mean, I I suppose my core
question is why didn't you provide an

1730
00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:56,560
question is why didn't you provide an
 

1731
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,270
question is why didn't you provide an
interview call with Emmy if you kind of

1732
00:36:59,270 --> 00:36:59,280
interview call with Emmy if you kind of
 

1733
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,829
interview call with Emmy if you kind of
had access to that?

1734
00:37:01,829 --> 00:37:01,839
had access to that?
 

1735
00:37:01,839 --> 00:37:05,589
had access to that?
Um, she was afraid. I mean, I I I even

1736
00:37:05,589 --> 00:37:05,599
Um, she was afraid. I mean, I I I even
 

1737
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:08,630
Um, she was afraid. I mean, I I I even
asked her if she wanted to verbally read

1738
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:08,640
asked her if she wanted to verbally read
 

1739
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,630
asked her if she wanted to verbally read
her own testimony in the video, but she

1740
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:10,640
her own testimony in the video, but she
 

1741
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,230
her own testimony in the video, but she
was afraid that people could recognize

1742
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:14,240
was afraid that people could recognize
 

1743
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:15,550
was afraid that people could recognize
her.

1744
00:37:15,550 --> 00:37:15,560
her.
 

1745
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,270
her.
Um because she's a voice actor, um the

1746
00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:19,280
Um because she's a voice actor, um the
 

1747
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,069
Um because she's a voice actor, um the
her her voice. And then I said, "Well,

1748
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:22,079
her her voice. And then I said, "Well,
 

1749
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:23,510
her her voice. And then I said, "Well,
why don't we pitch what if we pitch it

1750
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:23,520
why don't we pitch what if we pitch it
 

1751
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,109
why don't we pitch what if we pitch it
down?" She says, "No, I think people

1752
00:37:25,109 --> 00:37:25,119
down?" She says, "No, I think people
 

1753
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:27,190
down?" She says, "No, I think people
would still be able to recognize it just

1754
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:27,200
would still be able to recognize it just
 

1755
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,910
would still be able to recognize it just
based on how I speak." And I was like,

1756
00:37:28,910 --> 00:37:28,920
based on how I speak." And I was like,
 

1757
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,390
based on how I speak." And I was like,
"Okay." So, okay.

1758
00:37:33,390 --> 00:37:33,400
"Okay." So, okay.
 

1759
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,030
"Okay." So, okay.
Um, you understand

1760
00:37:36,030 --> 00:37:36,040
Um, you understand
 

1761
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,870
Um, you understand
that kind of where the the way this

1762
00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:38,880
that kind of where the the way this
 

1763
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,550
that kind of where the the way this
looks from your video is you have a

1764
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:42,560
looks from your video is you have a
 

1765
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,270
looks from your video is you have a
victim statement that looks far more

1766
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:45,280
victim statement that looks far more
 

1767
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,390
victim statement that looks far more
distant from you than is the

1768
00:37:47,390 --> 00:37:47,400
distant from you than is the
 

1769
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,150
distant from you than is the
reality. And then you have a long

1770
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:50,160
reality. And then you have a long
 

1771
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,790
reality. And then you have a long
conversation with Courtney where you are

1772
00:37:53,790 --> 00:37:53,800
conversation with Courtney where you are
 

1773
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,510
conversation with Courtney where you are
essentially uh

1774
00:37:56,510 --> 00:37:56,520
essentially uh
 

1775
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,109
essentially uh
providing context to how you are seeing

1776
00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:59,119
providing context to how you are seeing
 

1777
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:02,950
providing context to how you are seeing
this almost at a distance which is I I

1778
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:02,960
this almost at a distance which is I I
 

1779
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,470
this almost at a distance which is I I
would say fairly misleading to an

1780
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:04,480
would say fairly misleading to an
 

1781
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,230
would say fairly misleading to an
audience.

1782
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:08,240

 

1783
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:12,710

Um yeah the the the the idea with that

1784
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:12,720
Um yeah the the the the idea with that
 

1785
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:16,470
Um yeah the the the the idea with that
is um I'm just not familiar with essay

1786
00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:16,480
is um I'm just not familiar with essay
 

1787
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,990
is um I'm just not familiar with essay
in general. Um, I believe

1788
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:22,000

 

1789
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:29,069

um I believe that

1790
00:38:29,069 --> 00:38:29,079

 

1791
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:31,510

um you are familiar with Courtney's

1792
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:31,520
um you are familiar with Courtney's
 

1793
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,550
um you are familiar with Courtney's
history. She was someone I trusted. So,

1794
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:34,560
history. She was someone I trusted. So,
 

1795
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,710
history. She was someone I trusted. So,
I just felt like it would be helpful in

1796
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:38,720
I just felt like it would be helpful in
 

1797
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:42,270
I just felt like it would be helpful in
a call to

1798
00:38:42,270 --> 00:38:42,280
a call to
 

1799
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,670
a call to
um to to talk about it from someone's

1800
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:45,680
um to to talk about it from someone's
 

1801
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,870
um to to talk about it from someone's
pers an um an SIS p um survivor's

1802
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:48,880
pers an um an SIS p um survivor's
 

1803
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,430
pers an um an SIS p um survivor's
perspective. So, that was kind of the

1804
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:51,440
perspective. So, that was kind of the
 

1805
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,109
perspective. So, that was kind of the
intention.

1806
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:53,119
intention.
 

1807
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:55,670
intention.
Okay. So, I mean there is another

1808
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:55,680
Okay. So, I mean there is another
 

1809
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,270
Okay. So, I mean there is another
element to this in that Google document.

1810
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:59,280
element to this in that Google document.
 

1811
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,230
element to this in that Google document.
um you are providing editing notes at

1812
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:02,240
um you are providing editing notes at
 

1813
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:05,670
um you are providing editing notes at
points where you're saying that here's

1814
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:05,680
points where you're saying that here's
 

1815
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,950
points where you're saying that here's
where you should mention this was

1816
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:06,960
where you should mention this was
 

1817
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:13,230
where you should mention this was
non-consensual um in both those

1818
00:39:13,230 --> 00:39:13,240

 

1819
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:15,390

instances.

1820
00:39:15,390 --> 00:39:15,400
instances.
 

1821
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,950
instances.
Um yeah, that was the that was

1822
00:39:19,950 --> 00:39:19,960
Um yeah, that was the that was
 

1823
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,790
Um yeah, that was the that was
um I just wanted to make a note to make

1824
00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:22,800
um I just wanted to make a note to make
 

1825
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,870
um I just wanted to make a note to make
that clear because that's what she said

1826
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:26,880
that clear because that's what she said
 

1827
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,670
that clear because that's what she said
to me. So, um,

1828
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:31,680
to me. So, um,
 

1829
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,069
to me. So, um,
I mean, I I'll be honest. What it looks

1830
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:34,079
I mean, I I'll be honest. What it looks
 

1831
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:36,470
I mean, I I'll be honest. What it looks
like is that you

1832
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:36,480
like is that you
 

1833
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,109
like is that you
had somebody come to you with a victim

1834
00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:39,119
had somebody come to you with a victim
 

1835
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:43,630
had somebody come to you with a victim
story and then you tailored their

1836
00:39:43,630 --> 00:39:43,640
story and then you tailored their
 

1837
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,430
story and then you tailored their
um, victim impact statement, which

1838
00:39:48,430 --> 00:39:48,440
um, victim impact statement, which
 

1839
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,349
um, victim impact statement, which
is quite

1840
00:39:50,349 --> 00:39:50,359
is quite
 

1841
00:39:50,359 --> 00:39:54,310
is quite
bad. Um, but it like I I've seen little

1842
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:54,320
bad. Um, but it like I I've seen little
 

1843
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,390
bad. Um, but it like I I've seen little
bits of kind of the conversations

1844
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:56,400
bits of kind of the conversations
 

1845
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,390
bits of kind of the conversations
through LIO where you know there's a

1846
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:58,400
through LIO where you know there's a
 

1847
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,750
through LIO where you know there's a
question with one of the other members

1848
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:59,760
question with one of the other members
 

1849
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,270
question with one of the other members
of the DA group where it's like, well,

1850
00:40:01,270 --> 00:40:01,280
of the DA group where it's like, well,
 

1851
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,750
of the DA group where it's like, well,
should we re-record the interview? And

1852
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:03,760
should we re-record the interview? And
 

1853
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,990
should we re-record the interview? And
Lio says, well, no, let the interview

1854
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:06,000
Lio says, well, no, let the interview
 

1855
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,390
Lio says, well, no, let the interview
stand as is. You can provide context

1856
00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:08,400
stand as is. You can provide context
 

1857
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,390
stand as is. You can provide context
afterwards, but the interview should

1858
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:10,400
afterwards, but the interview should
 

1859
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,910
afterwards, but the interview should
stand as your interview. When you've got

1860
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:13,920
stand as your interview. When you've got
 

1861
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,910
stand as your interview. When you've got
something like this, the way it looks to

1862
00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:15,920
something like this, the way it looks to
 

1863
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,150
something like this, the way it looks to
me is you've got, okay, well, this is

1864
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:18,160
me is you've got, okay, well, this is
 

1865
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,030
me is you've got, okay, well, this is
the statement from the victim. I know

1866
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:21,040
the statement from the victim. I know
 

1867
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,030
the statement from the victim. I know
that I'm going to use this in a video.

1868
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:23,040
that I'm going to use this in a video.
 

1869
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,950
that I'm going to use this in a video.
How do I make this like what are the

1870
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:24,960
How do I make this like what are the
 

1871
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,510
How do I make this like what are the
points that I need to hit with an

1872
00:40:26,510 --> 00:40:26,520
points that I need to hit with an
 

1873
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,270
points that I need to hit with an
audience,

1874
00:40:28,270 --> 00:40:28,280
audience,
 

1875
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,349
audience,
which is

1876
00:40:30,349 --> 00:40:30,359
which is
 

1877
00:40:30,359 --> 00:40:35,350
which is
um I mean not

1878
00:40:35,350 --> 00:40:35,360

 

1879
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,430

[Music]

1880
00:40:38,430 --> 00:40:38,440
[Music]
 

1881
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,790
[Music]
great. I mean, so was the general

1882
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:40,800
great. I mean, so was the general
 

1883
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,190
great. I mean, so was the general
critique. I just let them talk and I

1884
00:40:44,190 --> 00:40:44,200
critique. I just let them talk and I
 

1885
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,710
critique. I just let them talk and I
didn't

1886
00:40:47,710 --> 00:40:47,720

 

1887
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:50,470

like ask them like I don't I don't

1888
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:50,480
like ask them like I don't I don't
 

1889
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,470
like ask them like I don't I don't
really I'm not really following. So the

1890
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:52,480
really I'm not really following. So the
 

1891
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,630
really I'm not really following. So the
general critique is this. You let them

1892
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:54,640
general critique is this. You let them
 

1893
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,910
general critique is this. You let them
talk and then you took their statement

1894
00:40:58,910 --> 00:40:58,920
talk and then you took their statement
 

1895
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,550
talk and then you took their statement
and tailored it to be more impactful for

1896
00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:02,560
and tailored it to be more impactful for
 

1897
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,190
and tailored it to be more impactful for
content that you were planning to

1898
00:41:04,190 --> 00:41:04,200
content that you were planning to
 

1899
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,550
content that you were planning to
release. And at the same time, I've got

1900
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:06,560
release. And at the same time, I've got
 

1901
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,430
release. And at the same time, I've got
statements from Brony Fand that you also

1902
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:09,440
statements from Brony Fand that you also
 

1903
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,430
statements from Brony Fand that you also
provided statements to the other DA

1904
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:11,440
provided statements to the other DA
 

1905
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,510
provided statements to the other DA
victims, which was sort of a line to

1906
00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:13,520
victims, which was sort of a line to
 

1907
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:19,510
victims, which was sort of a line to
take.

1908
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:19,520

 

1909
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,109

I don't remember. Can you put that

1910
00:41:22,109 --> 00:41:22,119
I don't remember. Can you put that
 

1911
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:24,309
I don't remember. Can you put that
screenshot in there? I don't really

1912
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:24,319
screenshot in there? I don't really
 

1913
00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:26,150
screenshot in there? I don't really
remember that. Uh, yeah. Give me one

1914
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:26,160
remember that. Uh, yeah. Give me one
 

1915
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:31,670
remember that. Uh, yeah. Give me one
second. It would have been this one.

1916
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:31,680

 

1917
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,550

Oh, I mean I just I just wrote that

1918
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:36,560
Oh, I mean I just I just wrote that
 

1919
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,950
Oh, I mean I just I just wrote that
um to be helpful so he didn't um have to

1920
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:40,960
um to be helpful so he didn't um have to
 

1921
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,430
um to be helpful so he didn't um have to
do it. And my intention was essentially

1922
00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:43,440
do it. And my intention was essentially
 

1923
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,910
do it. And my intention was essentially
like, "Hey, I wrote a thing. Change it

1924
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:45,920
like, "Hey, I wrote a thing. Change it
 

1925
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,309
like, "Hey, I wrote a thing. Change it
however you feel fit." Um I So that was

1926
00:41:51,309 --> 00:41:51,319
however you feel fit." Um I So that was
 

1927
00:41:51,319 --> 00:41:54,309
however you feel fit." Um I So that was
um and I guess he thought that I was

1928
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:54,319
um and I guess he thought that I was
 

1929
00:41:54,319 --> 00:41:56,750
um and I guess he thought that I was
trying

1930
00:41:56,750 --> 00:41:56,760
trying
 

1931
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,750
trying
to put words into his mouth.

1932
00:42:00,750 --> 00:42:00,760
to put words into his mouth.
 

1933
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,109
to put words into his mouth.
Um and I just just like so things that I

1934
00:42:04,109 --> 00:42:04,119
Um and I just just like so things that I
 

1935
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:07,190
Um and I just just like so things that I
assumed were um like he had talked to

1936
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:07,200
assumed were um like he had talked to
 

1937
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,510
assumed were um like he had talked to
the victim extensively. He he didn't and

1938
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:09,520
the victim extensively. He he didn't and
 

1939
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,829
the victim extensively. He he didn't and
I didn't know that. So,

1940
00:42:12,829 --> 00:42:12,839
I didn't know that. So,
 

1941
00:42:12,839 --> 00:42:15,430
I didn't know that. So,
um, you know, I I guess I was the only

1942
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:15,440
um, you know, I I guess I was the only
 

1943
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,670
um, you know, I I guess I was the only
one that talked to to her extensively.

1944
00:42:18,670 --> 00:42:18,680
one that talked to to her extensively.
 

1945
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:24,390
one that talked to to her extensively.
Um, besides Amy, um, but,

1946
00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:24,400
Um, besides Amy, um, but,
 

1947
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,030
Um, besides Amy, um, but,
um, yeah, I he's one of my people I or

1948
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:27,040
um, yeah, I he's one of my people I or
 

1949
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,710
um, yeah, I he's one of my people I or
one of the people I need to kind of talk

1950
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:28,720
one of the people I need to kind of talk
 

1951
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,750
one of the people I need to kind of talk
to, but I'm also afraid he's going to

1952
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:31,760
to, but I'm also afraid he's going to
 

1953
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,230
to, but I'm also afraid he's going to
screenshot me out of context again, and,

1954
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:34,240
screenshot me out of context again, and,
 

1955
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,950
screenshot me out of context again, and,
you know, that's scary as well. So,

1956
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:36,960
you know, that's scary as well. So,
 

1957
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,870
you know, that's scary as well. So,
yeah, I understand that. I mean, it's

1958
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:38,880
yeah, I understand that. I mean, it's
 

1959
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,870
yeah, I understand that. I mean, it's
it's

1960
00:42:39,870 --> 00:42:39,880
it's
 

1961
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,309
it's
partly I what I run up against is when I

1962
00:42:43,309 --> 00:42:43,319
partly I what I run up against is when I
 

1963
00:42:43,319 --> 00:42:46,430
partly I what I run up against is when I
see stuff like

1964
00:42:46,430 --> 00:42:46,440
see stuff like
 

1965
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,349
see stuff like
this and you said uh you you know

1966
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:49,359
this and you said uh you you know
 

1967
00:42:49,359 --> 00:42:51,829
this and you said uh you you know
putting words in people's mouths. The

1968
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:51,839
putting words in people's mouths. The
 

1969
00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:53,990
putting words in people's mouths. The
problem is what I've got to go on is

1970
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:54,000
problem is what I've got to go on is
 

1971
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,670
problem is what I've got to go on is
kind of like what I can pick through and

1972
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:55,680
kind of like what I can pick through and
 

1973
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,829
kind of like what I can pick through and
see, which timeline wise is there are

1974
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:57,839
see, which timeline wise is there are
 

1975
00:42:57,839 --> 00:43:00,069
see, which timeline wise is there are
multiple documents being written um

1976
00:43:00,069 --> 00:43:00,079
multiple documents being written um
 

1977
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:02,790
multiple documents being written um
including the large DA document which

1978
00:43:02,790 --> 00:43:02,800
including the large DA document which
 

1979
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,349
including the large DA document which
had way more victim impact statements,

1980
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:05,359
had way more victim impact statements,
 

1981
00:43:05,359 --> 00:43:07,510
had way more victim impact statements,
many of which have been pulled entirely.

1982
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:07,520
many of which have been pulled entirely.
 

1983
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,190
many of which have been pulled entirely.
Um I believe one of them is um James. Um

1984
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:11,200
Um I believe one of them is um James. Um
 

1985
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,390
Um I believe one of them is um James. Um
yeah, James James uh Jamie also got a

1986
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:14,400
yeah, James James uh Jamie also got a
 

1987
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,790
yeah, James James uh Jamie also got a
cease and just so that scared him,

1988
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:16,800
cease and just so that scared him,
 

1989
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,470
cease and just so that scared him,
right? Um pull out entirely. So, so what

1990
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:20,480
right? Um pull out entirely. So, so what
 

1991
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,150
right? Um pull out entirely. So, so what
I've got in front of me is multiple

1992
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:22,160
I've got in front of me is multiple
 

1993
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,190
I've got in front of me is multiple
documents in which there have been many

1994
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:25,200
documents in which there have been many
 

1995
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,309
documents in which there have been many
chefs involved in these particular

1996
00:43:27,309 --> 00:43:27,319
chefs involved in these particular
 

1997
00:43:27,319 --> 00:43:29,470
chefs involved in these particular
kitchens

1998
00:43:29,470 --> 00:43:29,480
kitchens
 

1999
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,550
kitchens
and it it feels very guided which is is

2000
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:34,560
and it it feels very guided which is is
 

2001
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,230
and it it feels very guided which is is
concerning when we're talking about hit

2002
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:36,240
concerning when we're talking about hit
 

2003
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:39,109
concerning when we're talking about hit
pieces because then you know how much is

2004
00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:39,119
pieces because then you know how much is
 

2005
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:41,430
pieces because then you know how much is
how much is influenced not just by the

2006
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:41,440
how much is influenced not just by the
 

2007
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,309
how much is influenced not just by the
people who may have gone through these

2008
00:43:43,309 --> 00:43:43,319
people who may have gone through these
 

2009
00:43:43,319 --> 00:43:45,990
people who may have gone through these
things but by people who are looking to

2010
00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:46,000
things but by people who are looking to
 

2011
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,069
things but by people who are looking to
then utilize them because Bernie Fando

2012
00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:48,079
then utilize them because Bernie Fando
 

2013
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:49,829
then utilize them because Bernie Fando
has been going after Black Griff in this

2014
00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:49,839
has been going after Black Griff in this
 

2015
00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:54,829
has been going after Black Griff in this
group for years now.

2016
00:43:54,829 --> 00:43:54,839

 

2017
00:43:54,839 --> 00:43:57,510

Um, uh, just to be clear, I had nothing

2018
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:57,520
Um, uh, just to be clear, I had nothing
 

2019
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,589
Um, uh, just to be clear, I had nothing
to do with the DA Games document. Uh,

2020
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:59,599
to do with the DA Games document. Uh,
 

2021
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:02,829
to do with the DA Games document. Uh,
those were written, uh, way before I got

2022
00:44:02,829 --> 00:44:02,839
those were written, uh, way before I got
 

2023
00:44:02,839 --> 00:44:05,870
those were written, uh, way before I got
involved, just to clarify.

2024
00:44:05,870 --> 00:44:05,880
involved, just to clarify.
 

2025
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,470
involved, just to clarify.
Okay. Can you can you just explain some

2026
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:08,480
Okay. Can you can you just explain some
 

2027
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,470
Okay. Can you can you just explain some
of these edits in this document then?

2028
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:10,480
of these edits in this document then?
 

2029
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,550
of these edits in this document then?
Uh, like what does the highlighted in

2030
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:12,560
Uh, like what does the highlighted in
 

2031
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:21,349
Uh, like what does the highlighted in
purple mean?

2032
00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:21,359

 

2033
00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:24,710

I don't remember. Okay, that's fine.

2034
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:24,720
I don't remember. Okay, that's fine.
 

2035
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:26,510
I don't remember. Okay, that's fine.
It's fine.

2036
00:44:26,510 --> 00:44:26,520
It's fine.
 

2037
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,510
It's fine.
Um, so yeah, it's it's a placement of

2038
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:29,520
Um, so yeah, it's it's a placement of
 

2039
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,349
Um, so yeah, it's it's a placement of
things of like bring up the fact that he

2040
00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:31,359
things of like bring up the fact that he
 

2041
00:44:31,359 --> 00:44:33,990
things of like bring up the fact that he
did not ask for consent here. Yeah.

2042
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:34,000
did not ask for consent here. Yeah.
 

2043
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,829
did not ask for consent here. Yeah.
Well, I I I just gave screenshots that

2044
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:37,839
Well, I I I just gave screenshots that
 

2045
00:44:37,839 --> 00:44:41,030
Well, I I I just gave screenshots that
um gave more context to that. So, um I

2046
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:41,040
um gave more context to that. So, um I
 

2047
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,190
um gave more context to that. So, um I
guess it was Courtney's note cuz

2048
00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:43,200
guess it was Courtney's note cuz
 

2049
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,230
guess it was Courtney's note cuz
Courtney also gave some feedback on the

2050
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:46,240
Courtney also gave some feedback on the
 

2051
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:53,430
Courtney also gave some feedback on the
statement and um

2052
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:53,440

 

2053
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,870

Okay. Uh I mean, not to blame her. No,

2054
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:56,880
Okay. Uh I mean, not to blame her. No,
 

2055
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,829
Okay. Uh I mean, not to blame her. No,
she Sure. Sure. I I mean, again, it's I

2056
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:59,839
she Sure. Sure. I I mean, again, it's I
 

2057
00:44:59,839 --> 00:45:02,950
she Sure. Sure. I I mean, again, it's I
I get this is a collaborative process.

2058
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:02,960
I get this is a collaborative process.
 

2059
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,470
I get this is a collaborative process.
Um and Courtney's not here to sort of

2060
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:04,480
Um and Courtney's not here to sort of
 

2061
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,870
Um and Courtney's not here to sort of
give her side of what happened. So I

2062
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:06,880
give her side of what happened. So I
 

2063
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,030
give her side of what happened. So I
don't want to start just blaming people

2064
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:09,040
don't want to start just blaming people
 

2065
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,750
don't want to start just blaming people
who aren't

2066
00:45:10,750 --> 00:45:10,760
who aren't
 

2067
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,109
who aren't
around. I suppose I suppose at a core

2068
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:13,119
around. I suppose I suppose at a core
 

2069
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:14,950
around. I suppose I suppose at a core
level what what and and this is why

2070
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:14,960
level what what and and this is why
 

2071
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,150
level what what and and this is why
people have focused in on the Saber

2072
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:16,160
people have focused in on the Saber
 

2073
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,589
people have focused in on the Saber
Spark stuff. What you have is testimony

2074
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:17,599
Spark stuff. What you have is testimony
 

2075
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:20,069
Spark stuff. What you have is testimony
of something that happened over a decade

2076
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:20,079
of something that happened over a decade
 

2077
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:24,150
of something that happened over a decade
ago um from one person who chose to

2078
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:24,160
ago um from one person who chose to
 

2079
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,230
ago um from one person who chose to
remain anonymous who has a long internet

2080
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:26,240
remain anonymous who has a long internet
 

2081
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:29,030
remain anonymous who has a long internet
history which is mixed again. Like I'm

2082
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:29,040
history which is mixed again. Like I'm
 

2083
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,630
history which is mixed again. Like I'm
sure that there are two sides to the

2084
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:30,640
sure that there are two sides to the
 

2085
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,190
sure that there are two sides to the
Emmy story. In fact, a few people are

2086
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:33,200
Emmy story. In fact, a few people are
 

2087
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,190
Emmy story. In fact, a few people are
are quite interested in the other side

2088
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:35,200
are quite interested in the other side
 

2089
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,510
are quite interested in the other side
of that Emmy story. You know, I've

2090
00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:37,520
of that Emmy story. You know, I've
 

2091
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,270
of that Emmy story. You know, I've
already heard from them. I'm gonna I'm

2092
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:39,280
already heard from them. I'm gonna I'm
 

2093
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,109
already heard from them. I'm gonna I'm
gonna attempt to get it because she

2094
00:45:41,109 --> 00:45:41,119
gonna attempt to get it because she
 

2095
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:44,150
gonna attempt to get it because she
seems to tr I mean, obviously don't um

2096
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:44,160
seems to tr I mean, obviously don't um
 

2097
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,950
seems to tr I mean, obviously don't um
release these screenshots publicly, at

2098
00:45:45,950 --> 00:45:45,960
release these screenshots publicly, at
 

2099
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,109
release these screenshots publicly, at
least not not now without asking, but

2100
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:49,119
least not not now without asking, but
 

2101
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:54,829
least not not now without asking, but
she seems to trust me right now. So,

2102
00:45:54,829 --> 00:45:54,839
she seems to trust me right now. So,
 

2103
00:45:54,839 --> 00:45:57,990
she seems to trust me right now. So,
um for lack of a better word, I'm pretty

2104
00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:58,000
um for lack of a better word, I'm pretty
 

2105
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,750
um for lack of a better word, I'm pretty
[\h__\h] pissed. And I feel like a dupe

2106
00:46:01,750 --> 00:46:01,760
[\h__\h] pissed. And I feel like a dupe
 

2107
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,750
[\h__\h] pissed. And I feel like a dupe
that was put on for a ride, but

2108
00:46:04,750 --> 00:46:04,760
that was put on for a ride, but
 

2109
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,069
that was put on for a ride, but
my implication with everything with so

2110
00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:08,079
my implication with everything with so
 

2111
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:12,470
my implication with everything with so
Bon came to me with their with this um

2112
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:12,480
Bon came to me with their with this um
 

2113
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,710
Bon came to me with their with this um
story cuz he was having mental health

2114
00:46:14,710 --> 00:46:14,720
story cuz he was having mental health
 

2115
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:16,150
story cuz he was having mental health
problems at the time and he didn't have

2116
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:16,160
problems at the time and he didn't have
 

2117
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,910
problems at the time and he didn't have
the energy to deal with it. So my

2118
00:46:18,910 --> 00:46:18,920
the energy to deal with it. So my
 

2119
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,870
the energy to deal with it. So my
understanding, you know, feel free to

2120
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:20,880
understanding, you know, feel free to
 

2121
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,950
understanding, you know, feel free to
ask him. It was this was going to come

2122
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:22,960
ask him. It was this was going to come
 

2123
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,069
ask him. It was this was going to come
out regardless of me. So I was just

2124
00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:26,079
out regardless of me. So I was just
 

2125
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:29,190
out regardless of me. So I was just
there already making a video about it.

2126
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:29,200
there already making a video about it.
 

2127
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:35,030
there already making a video about it.
So it just seemed like But yeah, sure,

2128
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:35,040
So it just seemed like But yeah, sure,
 

2129
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,349
So it just seemed like But yeah, sure,
but this stuff had been building for a

2130
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:37,359
but this stuff had been building for a
 

2131
00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:41,270
but this stuff had been building for a
while um on some of the DA stuff. I I

2132
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:41,280
while um on some of the DA stuff. I I
 

2133
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,510
while um on some of the DA stuff. I I
can see that from the documents, but

2134
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:43,520
can see that from the documents, but
 

2135
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,390
can see that from the documents, but
this stuff with Emmy uh seems to have

2136
00:46:46,390 --> 00:46:46,400
this stuff with Emmy uh seems to have
 

2137
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,390
this stuff with Emmy uh seems to have
come right out of the blue, right where

2138
00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:50,400
come right out of the blue, right where
 

2139
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,230
come right out of the blue, right where
you needed it. And you seem to not have

2140
00:46:53,230 --> 00:46:53,240
you needed it. And you seem to not have
 

2141
00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:55,670
you needed it. And you seem to not have
questioned, should we say, uh the good

2142
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:55,680
questioned, should we say, uh the good
 

2143
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,630
questioned, should we say, uh the good
fortune of of that happening. you seem

2144
00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:58,640
fortune of of that happening. you seem
 

2145
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,150
fortune of of that happening. you seem
to have just gone, "Oh, great. Cool.

2146
00:47:00,150 --> 00:47:00,160
to have just gone, "Oh, great. Cool.
 

2147
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,510
to have just gone, "Oh, great. Cool.
Well, now I've got something to go at

2148
00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:01,520
Well, now I've got something to go at
 

2149
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,390
Well, now I've got something to go at
Saber with."

2150
00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:04,400
Saber with."
 

2151
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,309
Saber with."
Um, well, let me clarify. Um, so I I I

2152
00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:08,319
Um, well, let me clarify. Um, so I I I
 

2153
00:47:08,319 --> 00:47:10,550
Um, well, let me clarify. Um, so I I I
would imagine you can ask Amy about

2154
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:10,560
would imagine you can ask Amy about
 

2155
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,190
would imagine you can ask Amy about
this. I don't how long she maybe she

2156
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:15,200
this. I don't how long she maybe she
 

2157
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,790
this. I don't how long she maybe she
said 2023, I think. Um, but she has

2158
00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:18,800
said 2023, I think. Um, but she has
 

2159
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,030
said 2023, I think. Um, but she has
known about this for a couple of years.

2160
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:21,040
known about this for a couple of years.
 

2161
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,349
known about this for a couple of years.
Amy is um Peter New's wife who um I mean

2162
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:25,359
Amy is um Peter New's wife who um I mean
 

2163
00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:26,870
Amy is um Peter New's wife who um I mean
don't tell her I I sent you cuz she

2164
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:26,880
don't tell her I I sent you cuz she
 

2165
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,190
don't tell her I I sent you cuz she
doesn't like me right now. But

2166
00:47:30,190 --> 00:47:30,200
doesn't like me right now. But
 

2167
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,870
doesn't like me right now. But
um she was the one I originally talked

2168
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:32,880
um she was the one I originally talked
 

2169
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,030
um she was the one I originally talked
to to get in contact with um

2170
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:37,040
to to get in contact with um
 

2171
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,069
to to get in contact with um
is that the is that the other Pegasus

2172
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:40,079
is that the is that the other Pegasus
 

2173
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:43,430
is that the is that the other Pegasus
sister or whatever the hell? Uh I don't

2174
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:43,440
sister or whatever the hell? Uh I don't
 

2175
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,430
sister or whatever the hell? Uh I don't
think Amy has a presence in the the

2176
00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:45,440
think Amy has a presence in the the
 

2177
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,470
think Amy has a presence in the the
fandom. Okay. Okay. cuz I'm just like

2178
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:48,480
fandom. Okay. Okay. cuz I'm just like
 

2179
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,910
fandom. Okay. Okay. cuz I'm just like
even for me, I'm just trying to make

2180
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:49,920
even for me, I'm just trying to make
 

2181
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,589
even for me, I'm just trying to make
sense of who these people are. Now, it

2182
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:53,599
sense of who these people are. Now, it
 

2183
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:56,230
sense of who these people are. Now, it
might be slightly hypocritical for me of

2184
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:56,240
might be slightly hypocritical for me of
 

2185
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:57,910
might be slightly hypocritical for me of
all people to criticize someone else for

2186
00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:57,920
all people to criticize someone else for
 

2187
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,069
all people to criticize someone else for
becoming too involved in a story, but

2188
00:48:00,069 --> 00:48:00,079
becoming too involved in a story, but
 

2189
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:02,550
becoming too involved in a story, but
there are lines to this and getting a

2190
00:48:02,550 --> 00:48:02,560
there are lines to this and getting a
 

2191
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,510
there are lines to this and getting a
victim to edit their impact statement is

2192
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:05,520
victim to edit their impact statement is
 

2193
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,550
victim to edit their impact statement is
certainly a line. While KP argues this

2194
00:48:08,550 --> 00:48:08,560
certainly a line. While KP argues this
 

2195
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,030
certainly a line. While KP argues this
is to clarify and fill in gaps, these

2196
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:11,040
is to clarify and fill in gaps, these
 

2197
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,309
is to clarify and fill in gaps, these
edits read far more as trying to remove

2198
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:14,319
edits read far more as trying to remove
 

2199
00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:17,190
edits read far more as trying to remove
any semblance of doubt and emphasize

2200
00:48:17,190 --> 00:48:17,200
any semblance of doubt and emphasize
 

2201
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,910
any semblance of doubt and emphasize
things like the power imbalance. Making

2202
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:19,920
things like the power imbalance. Making
 

2203
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,390
things like the power imbalance. Making
sure a victim's impact statement fits

2204
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:22,400
sure a victim's impact statement fits
 

2205
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,990
sure a victim's impact statement fits
more easily with the arguments you're

2206
00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:24,000
more easily with the arguments you're
 

2207
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,470
more easily with the arguments you're
going to make in your video is certainly

2208
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:26,480
going to make in your video is certainly
 

2209
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,270
going to make in your video is certainly
highly unethical. Within the DM logs

2210
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:29,280
highly unethical. Within the DM logs
 

2211
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,150
highly unethical. Within the DM logs
between KP and Emmy, KP provides

2212
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:32,160
between KP and Emmy, KP provides
 

2213
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,549
between KP and Emmy, KP provides
feedback from Courtney Pete. One

2214
00:48:34,549 --> 00:48:34,559
feedback from Courtney Pete. One
 

2215
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:37,270
feedback from Courtney Pete. One
particular line of interest is, "And it

2216
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:37,280
particular line of interest is, "And it
 

2217
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,790
particular line of interest is, "And it
sort of kills me that she might be

2218
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:38,800
sort of kills me that she might be
 

2219
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,870
sort of kills me that she might be
giving any sort of grace to him at the

2220
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:40,880
giving any sort of grace to him at the
 

2221
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,589
giving any sort of grace to him at the
expense of herself because he considered

2222
00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:43,599
expense of herself because he considered
 

2223
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:45,829
expense of herself because he considered
it implied." And this isn't just a

2224
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:45,839
it implied." And this isn't just a
 

2225
00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:47,910
it implied." And this isn't just a
throwaway line. It's intermingled

2226
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:47,920
throwaway line. It's intermingled
 

2227
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,390
throwaway line. It's intermingled
amongst a tirade on how consent works,

2228
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:50,400
amongst a tirade on how consent works,
 

2229
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,309
amongst a tirade on how consent works,
emphasizing why that line in particular

2230
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:52,319
emphasizing why that line in particular
 

2231
00:48:52,319 --> 00:48:55,589
emphasizing why that line in particular
is an issue. It would work, too. Emmy

2232
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:55,599
is an issue. It would work, too. Emmy
 

2233
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:57,589
is an issue. It would work, too. Emmy
does change her statement because of

2234
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:57,599
does change her statement because of
 

2235
00:48:57,599 --> 00:49:00,870
does change her statement because of
this feedback. Hey, sorry. I removed the

2236
00:49:00,870 --> 00:49:00,880
this feedback. Hey, sorry. I removed the
 

2237
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,630
this feedback. Hey, sorry. I removed the
part giving him grace by saying I

2238
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:02,640
part giving him grace by saying I
 

2239
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,230
part giving him grace by saying I
understand he may have thought consent

2240
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:04,240
understand he may have thought consent
 

2241
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:06,309
understand he may have thought consent
was implied. Courtney is definitely

2242
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:06,319
was implied. Courtney is definitely
 

2243
00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:08,470
was implied. Courtney is definitely
right. I just know his retort is going

2244
00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:08,480
right. I just know his retort is going
 

2245
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,630
right. I just know his retort is going
to be him believing consent was there.

2246
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:10,640
to be him believing consent was there.
 

2247
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,630
to be him believing consent was there.
Courtney is right though. It was never

2248
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:12,640
Courtney is right though. It was never
 

2249
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,190
Courtney is right though. It was never
implied even if I did like him at the

2250
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:15,200
implied even if I did like him at the
 

2251
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,630
implied even if I did like him at the
time. This is direct evidence that KP

2252
00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:18,640
time. This is direct evidence that KP
 

2253
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,190
time. This is direct evidence that KP
and Courtney worked to tailor the victim

2254
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:21,200
and Courtney worked to tailor the victim
 

2255
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,829
and Courtney worked to tailor the victim
statement to make it more damaging. And

2256
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:23,839
statement to make it more damaging. And
 

2257
00:49:23,839 --> 00:49:25,910
statement to make it more damaging. And
the reason this is an issue is because

2258
00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:25,920
the reason this is an issue is because
 

2259
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,910
the reason this is an issue is because
it's not how Emmy necessarily sees the

2260
00:49:28,910 --> 00:49:28,920
it's not how Emmy necessarily sees the
 

2261
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,829
it's not how Emmy necessarily sees the
situation. It is KP and Courtney trying

2262
00:49:31,829 --> 00:49:31,839
situation. It is KP and Courtney trying
 

2263
00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:34,150
situation. It is KP and Courtney trying
to influence Emmy to perceive the

2264
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:34,160
to influence Emmy to perceive the
 

2265
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,430
to influence Emmy to perceive the
situation through their lens. If you

2266
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:37,440
situation through their lens. If you
 

2267
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,390
situation through their lens. If you
care about what victims have to say, and

2268
00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:40,400
care about what victims have to say, and
 

2269
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,710
care about what victims have to say, and
this story is full of people who don't

2270
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:42,720
this story is full of people who don't
 

2271
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:45,829
this story is full of people who don't
care what victims have to say, you

2272
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:45,839
care what victims have to say, you
 

2273
00:49:45,839 --> 00:49:48,069
care what victims have to say, you
should respect those original

2274
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:48,079
should respect those original
 

2275
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:50,790
should respect those original
statements. But as if to perfectly

2276
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:50,800
statements. But as if to perfectly
 

2277
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,190
statements. But as if to perfectly
encapsulate my point of how [\h__\h]

2278
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:53,200
encapsulate my point of how [\h__\h]
 

2279
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,069
encapsulate my point of how [\h__\h]
careless everyone here is, I went to

2280
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:56,079
careless everyone here is, I went to
 

2281
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:58,230
careless everyone here is, I went to
check the release statement and that

2282
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:58,240
check the release statement and that
 

2283
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:00,950
check the release statement and that
section about implied consent is still

2284
00:50:00,950 --> 00:50:00,960
section about implied consent is still
 

2285
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,349
section about implied consent is still
present. I thought I was losing my mind

2286
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:03,359
present. I thought I was losing my mind
 

2287
00:50:03,359 --> 00:50:05,190
present. I thought I was losing my mind
for a second because I've read these

2288
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:05,200
for a second because I've read these
 

2289
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,030
for a second because I've read these
DMs. So, I went back to check and I'm

2290
00:50:08,030 --> 00:50:08,040
DMs. So, I went back to check and I'm
 

2291
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,630
DMs. So, I went back to check and I'm
right. I'm showing you the original

2292
00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:10,640
right. I'm showing you the original
 

2293
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,430
right. I'm showing you the original
statements applied by Emmy to KP and

2294
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:13,440
statements applied by Emmy to KP and
 

2295
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,069
statements applied by Emmy to KP and
I've highlighted the word implied. But

2296
00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:16,079
I've highlighted the word implied. But
 

2297
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:18,950
I've highlighted the word implied. But
if we scroll all the way down to her

2298
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:18,960
if we scroll all the way down to her
 

2299
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,990
if we scroll all the way down to her
updated statement, and I cannot [\h__\h]

2300
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:22,000
updated statement, and I cannot [\h__\h]
 

2301
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,589
updated statement, and I cannot [\h__\h]
believe this, it's gone. Emmy did make

2302
00:50:25,589 --> 00:50:25,599
believe this, it's gone. Emmy did make
 

2303
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:27,829
believe this, it's gone. Emmy did make
this edit, but KP is paying so little

2304
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:27,839
this edit, but KP is paying so little
 

2305
00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:29,910
this edit, but KP is paying so little
attention, she didn't even include it in

2306
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:29,920
attention, she didn't even include it in
 

2307
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,390
attention, she didn't even include it in
the final document for release. No

2308
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:32,400
the final document for release. No
 

2309
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,390
the final document for release. No
wonder those involved in this didn't

2310
00:50:34,390 --> 00:50:34,400
wonder those involved in this didn't
 

2311
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,309
wonder those involved in this didn't
care about the fact that Emmy has no

2312
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:36,319
care about the fact that Emmy has no
 

2313
00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:37,910
care about the fact that Emmy has no
evidence for the allegation she's

2314
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:37,920
evidence for the allegation she's
 

2315
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,069
evidence for the allegation she's
making. They don't even care about her

2316
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:40,079
making. They don't even care about her
 

2317
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:43,430
making. They don't even care about her
actual testimony. And don't worry

2318
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:43,440
actual testimony. And don't worry
 

2319
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,390
actual testimony. And don't worry
because this situation somehow becomes

2320
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:46,400
because this situation somehow becomes
 

2321
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,430
because this situation somehow becomes
more absurd cuz you'll remember Lio

2322
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:49,440
more absurd cuz you'll remember Lio
 

2323
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,430
more absurd cuz you'll remember Lio
advised KP that this was a matter for

2324
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:51,440
advised KP that this was a matter for
 

2325
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,430
advised KP that this was a matter for
the authorities and they would require

2326
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:53,440
the authorities and they would require
 

2327
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,910
the authorities and they would require
at the very least a police statement to

2328
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:55,920
at the very least a police statement to
 

2329
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,990
at the very least a police statement to
be filed if they were planning to run

2330
00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:58,000
be filed if they were planning to run
 

2331
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,470
be filed if they were planning to run
this story. One of the things that got

2332
00:51:00,470 --> 00:51:00,480
this story. One of the things that got
 

2333
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,790
this story. One of the things that got
sort of mentioned was Liar's involvement

2334
00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:02,800
sort of mentioned was Liar's involvement
 

2335
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,390
sort of mentioned was Liar's involvement
and I was interested uh in how far that

2336
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:06,400
and I was interested uh in how far that
 

2337
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,470
and I was interested uh in how far that
involvement kind of went. Um, I mean

2338
00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:10,480
involvement kind of went. Um, I mean
 

2339
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,150
involvement kind of went. Um, I mean
maybe you can speak to that. It doesn't

2340
00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:12,160
maybe you can speak to that. It doesn't
 

2341
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,630
maybe you can speak to that. It doesn't
seem like Lio

2342
00:51:13,630 --> 00:51:13,640
seem like Lio
 

2343
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,670
seem like Lio
is from what I have seen that involved.

2344
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:17,680
is from what I have seen that involved.
 

2345
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,030
is from what I have seen that involved.
He doesn't seem to have seen the video

2346
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:19,040
He doesn't seem to have seen the video
 

2347
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,150
He doesn't seem to have seen the video
before it came out. Um, I think Lio said

2348
00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:22,160
before it came out. Um, I think Lio said
 

2349
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,230
before it came out. Um, I think Lio said
to me when he when asked about this

2350
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:24,240
to me when he when asked about this
 

2351
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:26,870
to me when he when asked about this
particular statement and this victim.

2352
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:26,880
particular statement and this victim.
 

2353
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:32,069
particular statement and this victim.
Um, his advice was don't run this. Um,

2354
00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:32,079
Um, his advice was don't run this. Um,
 

2355
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:33,870
Um, his advice was don't run this. Um,
that seems to have been his

2356
00:51:33,870 --> 00:51:33,880
that seems to have been his
 

2357
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,230
that seems to have been his
involvement and go to the police about

2358
00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:36,240
involvement and go to the police about
 

2359
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:39,870
involvement and go to the police about
stuff. Is that unfair?

2360
00:51:39,870 --> 00:51:39,880
stuff. Is that unfair?
 

2361
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,710
stuff. Is that unfair?
Um, I don't remember the don't run this,

2362
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:42,720
Um, I don't remember the don't run this,
 

2363
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,349
Um, I don't remember the don't run this,
but um, yeah, we did have a extensive

2364
00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:45,359
but um, yeah, we did have a extensive
 

2365
00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:48,230
but um, yeah, we did have a extensive
conversation where we recommended that

2366
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:48,240
conversation where we recommended that
 

2367
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:50,069
conversation where we recommended that
she go to the police and get a police

2368
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:50,079
she go to the police and get a police
 

2369
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:53,750
she go to the police and get a police
report first. Um, and she didn't want

2370
00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:53,760
report first. Um, and she didn't want
 

2371
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,670
report first. Um, and she didn't want
the don't run. This was when I told you

2372
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:55,680
the don't run. This was when I told you
 

2373
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,390
the don't run. This was when I told you
you shouldn't put this in a video. Okay.

2374
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:58,400
you shouldn't put this in a video. Okay.
 

2375
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,150
you shouldn't put this in a video. Okay.
Because a police report wasn't filed.

2376
00:52:00,150 --> 00:52:00,160
Because a police report wasn't filed.
 

2377
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,069
Because a police report wasn't filed.
That's what he's referring to. Okay.

2378
00:52:02,069 --> 00:52:02,079
That's what he's referring to. Okay.
 

2379
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:03,589
That's what he's referring to. Okay.
Well, that's that that's why we released

2380
00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:03,599
Well, that's that that's why we released
 

2381
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:06,470
Well, that's that that's why we released
it on Twitter first to um kind of have

2382
00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:06,480
it on Twitter first to um kind of have
 

2383
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,390
it on Twitter first to um kind of have
it uh Well, I I don't I don't know if

2384
00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:10,400
it uh Well, I I don't I don't know if
 

2385
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,710
it uh Well, I I don't I don't know if
that helps because that if anything

2386
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:12,720
that helps because that if anything
 

2387
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:15,270
that helps because that if anything
makes it worse, KP, because it looks

2388
00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:15,280
makes it worse, KP, because it looks
 

2389
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,870
makes it worse, KP, because it looks
like you've gone, oh, we don't have a

2390
00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:16,880
like you've gone, oh, we don't have a
 

2391
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,230
like you've gone, oh, we don't have a
police report, but if this is gaining

2392
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:18,240
police report, but if this is gaining
 

2393
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:20,309
police report, but if this is gaining
traction on Twitter, then I can put it

2394
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:20,319
traction on Twitter, then I can put it
 

2395
00:52:20,319 --> 00:52:22,309
traction on Twitter, then I can put it
in a video. A video you are already

2396
00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:22,319
in a video. A video you are already
 

2397
00:52:22,319 --> 00:52:24,390
in a video. A video you are already
making with a victim you are already

2398
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:24,400
making with a victim you are already
 

2399
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:32,510
making with a victim you are already
speaking to.

2400
00:52:32,510 --> 00:52:32,520

 

2401
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,750

Um, I I don't really have a response to

2402
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:35,760
Um, I I don't really have a response to
 

2403
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,030
Um, I I don't really have a response to
that. Okay.

2404
00:52:40,030 --> 00:52:40,040

 

2405
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,870

Um, it's like so so what I'm running up

2406
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:42,880
Um, it's like so so what I'm running up
 

2407
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,910
Um, it's like so so what I'm running up
against here is um there are going to be

2408
00:52:45,910 --> 00:52:45,920
against here is um there are going to be
 

2409
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,870
against here is um there are going to be
multiple sort of views on this video.

2410
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:48,880
multiple sort of views on this video.
 

2411
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,470
multiple sort of views on this video.
Um, from everything from stupidity to

2412
00:52:51,470 --> 00:52:51,480
Um, from everything from stupidity to
 

2413
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,230
Um, from everything from stupidity to
malice.

2414
00:52:53,230 --> 00:52:53,240
malice.
 

2415
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:55,750
malice.
Um, I I don't know where I sit with that

2416
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:55,760
Um, I I don't know where I sit with that
 

2417
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,630
Um, I I don't know where I sit with that
at the moment. I'll be honest because

2418
00:52:58,630 --> 00:52:58,640
at the moment. I'll be honest because
 

2419
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,030
at the moment. I'll be honest because
you know I know you you by your own

2420
00:53:01,030 --> 00:53:01,040
you know I know you you by your own
 

2421
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,710
you know I know you you by your own
admission do not like this group of

2422
00:53:02,710 --> 00:53:02,720
admission do not like this group of
 

2423
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:06,150
admission do not like this group of
people. You have a history with them.

2424
00:53:06,150 --> 00:53:06,160
people. You have a history with them.
 

2425
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,549
people. You have a history with them.
you were handed stuff that was

2426
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:10,559
you were handed stuff that was
 

2427
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:12,950
you were handed stuff that was
um you you couldn't substantiate from

2428
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:12,960
um you you couldn't substantiate from
 

2429
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:18,309
um you you couldn't substantiate from
years ago and you know you use that to

2430
00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:18,319
years ago and you know you use that to
 

2431
00:53:18,319 --> 00:53:20,069
years ago and you know you use that to
make essentially rape by coercion

2432
00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:20,079
make essentially rape by coercion
 

2433
00:53:20,079 --> 00:53:21,829
make essentially rape by coercion
argument

2434
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:21,839
argument
 

2435
00:53:21,839 --> 00:53:24,390
argument
um against somebody without even

2436
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:24,400
um against somebody without even
 

2437
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,549
um against somebody without even
speaking to Sabre about it.

2438
00:53:27,549 --> 00:53:27,559
speaking to Sabre about it.
 

2439
00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:30,710
speaking to Sabre about it.
Um I mean it's it's pretty [\h__\h] wild

2440
00:53:30,710 --> 00:53:30,720
Um I mean it's it's pretty [\h__\h] wild
 

2441
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:35,190
Um I mean it's it's pretty [\h__\h] wild
frankly.

2442
00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:35,200

 

2443
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,510

No, I I I get it.

2444
00:53:38,510 --> 00:53:38,520
No, I I I get it.
 

2445
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:43,510
No, I I I get it.
Uh I I

2446
00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:43,520

 

2447
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,630

um No, I was just stupid and I wanted to

2448
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:46,640
um No, I was just stupid and I wanted to
 

2449
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,150
um No, I was just stupid and I wanted to
She came to me. She like Bon already

2450
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:50,160
She came to me. She like Bon already
 

2451
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,069
She came to me. She like Bon already
knew I was making this video. It just

2452
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:52,079
knew I was making this video. It just
 

2453
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:56,150
knew I was making this video. It just
seemed like another victim testimony to

2454
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:56,160
seemed like another victim testimony to
 

2455
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,150
seemed like another victim testimony to
add like the Dia Games one.

2456
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:58,160
add like the Dia Games one.
 

2457
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,750
add like the Dia Games one.
Unsurprisingly, when we're dealing with

2458
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:59,760
Unsurprisingly, when we're dealing with
 

2459
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,750
Unsurprisingly, when we're dealing with
a community that just repeats things

2460
00:54:01,750 --> 00:54:01,760
a community that just repeats things
 

2461
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,910
a community that just repeats things
they've heard over and over again until

2462
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:03,920
they've heard over and over again until
 

2463
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,069
they've heard over and over again until
they somehow become true, even when it

2464
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:06,079
they somehow become true, even when it
 

2465
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:08,670
they somehow become true, even when it
is once again lifer ruining

2466
00:54:08,670 --> 00:54:08,680
is once again lifer ruining
 

2467
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,829
is once again lifer ruining
accusations, KP and others, and we're

2468
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:11,839
accusations, KP and others, and we're
 

2469
00:54:11,839 --> 00:54:13,990
accusations, KP and others, and we're
about to get to those people, worked on

2470
00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:14,000
about to get to those people, worked on
 

2471
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,750
about to get to those people, worked on
the assumption that once this was out on

2472
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:15,760
the assumption that once this was out on
 

2473
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,790
the assumption that once this was out on
Twitter, coverage of it was fair game.

2474
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:18,800
Twitter, coverage of it was fair game.
 

2475
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,990
Twitter, coverage of it was fair game.
But to be clear, in the DMs, KP is

2476
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:22,000
But to be clear, in the DMs, KP is
 

2477
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,870
But to be clear, in the DMs, KP is
scheduling this with Brony Fand. And the

2478
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:24,880
scheduling this with Brony Fand. And the
 

2479
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,430
scheduling this with Brony Fand. And the
statement itself even goes out early and

2480
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:27,440
statement itself even goes out early and
 

2481
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,230
statement itself even goes out early and
has to be removed. Despite how [\h__\h] up

2482
00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:30,240
has to be removed. Despite how [\h__\h] up
 

2483
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:31,910
has to be removed. Despite how [\h__\h] up
all of this is, the level of

2484
00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:31,920
all of this is, the level of
 

2485
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,309
all of this is, the level of
incompetence is unironically just

2486
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:34,319
incompetence is unironically just
 

2487
00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:37,430
incompetence is unironically just
[\h__\h] hilarious. Predictably, once the

2488
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:37,440
[\h__\h] hilarious. Predictably, once the
 

2489
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,349
[\h__\h] hilarious. Predictably, once the
video had been released and the backlash

2490
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:39,359
video had been released and the backlash
 

2491
00:54:39,359 --> 00:54:42,069
video had been released and the backlash
was in, these little rats started

2492
00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:42,079
was in, these little rats started
 

2493
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:44,870
was in, these little rats started
fleeing the sinking ship. Vand's DMs

2494
00:54:44,870 --> 00:54:44,880
fleeing the sinking ship. Vand's DMs
 

2495
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,990
fleeing the sinking ship. Vand's DMs
here are pretty interesting, but we'll

2496
00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:48,000
here are pretty interesting, but we'll
 

2497
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,630
here are pretty interesting, but we'll
get to his section in a little bit.

2498
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:50,640
get to his section in a little bit.
 

2499
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,549
get to his section in a little bit.
However, one thing I want to point out

2500
00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:52,559
However, one thing I want to point out
 

2501
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:55,349
However, one thing I want to point out
is this tweet from May 5th where Fandon

2502
00:54:55,349 --> 00:54:55,359
is this tweet from May 5th where Fandon
 

2503
00:54:55,359 --> 00:54:57,990
is this tweet from May 5th where Fandon
says, "I talked with her in call about

2504
00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:58,000
says, "I talked with her in call about
 

2505
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,589
says, "I talked with her in call about
the problems. She told me she was

2506
00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:59,599
the problems. She told me she was
 

2507
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:01,430
the problems. She told me she was
surprised by the reactions because her

2508
00:55:01,430 --> 00:55:01,440
surprised by the reactions because her
 

2509
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,430
surprised by the reactions because her
team and the victim viewed it prior and

2510
00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:03,440
team and the victim viewed it prior and
 

2511
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,510
team and the victim viewed it prior and
liked it. I did not realize at the time

2512
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:05,520
liked it. I did not realize at the time
 

2513
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,309
liked it. I did not realize at the time
that she was lying." Well, I can prove

2514
00:55:08,309 --> 00:55:08,319
that she was lying." Well, I can prove
 

2515
00:55:08,319 --> 00:55:10,790
that she was lying." Well, I can prove
that in this case at least KP wasn't

2516
00:55:10,790 --> 00:55:10,800
that in this case at least KP wasn't
 

2517
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,750
that in this case at least KP wasn't
because Emmy did see the video and had a

2518
00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:13,760
because Emmy did see the video and had a
 

2519
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,710
because Emmy did see the video and had a
positive reaction to it. Before we move

2520
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:16,720
positive reaction to it. Before we move
 

2521
00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:18,549
positive reaction to it. Before we move
forward though, I do think it is

2522
00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:18,559
forward though, I do think it is
 

2523
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:19,910
forward though, I do think it is
valuable that you hear something that

2524
00:55:19,910 --> 00:55:19,920
valuable that you hear something that
 

2525
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,270
valuable that you hear something that
isn't just my opinion or KP's own

2526
00:55:22,270 --> 00:55:22,280
isn't just my opinion or KP's own
 

2527
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,549
isn't just my opinion or KP's own
statements. And one person who's known

2528
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:24,559
statements. And one person who's known
 

2529
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:26,630
statements. And one person who's known
this group of people for a significant

2530
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:26,640
this group of people for a significant
 

2531
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,630
this group of people for a significant
period of time is Henry Saber Sparks

2532
00:55:29,630 --> 00:55:29,640
period of time is Henry Saber Sparks
 

2533
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,710
period of time is Henry Saber Sparks
editor. Let's let's talk about KP and

2534
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:32,720
editor. Let's let's talk about KP and
 

2535
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:35,470
editor. Let's let's talk about KP and
your experiences with her.

2536
00:55:35,470 --> 00:55:35,480
your experiences with her.
 

2537
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,990
your experiences with her.
Sure. How did you first get to meet

2538
00:55:38,990 --> 00:55:39,000
Sure. How did you first get to meet
 

2539
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,390
Sure. How did you first get to meet
KP? Uh through the convention scene. So

2540
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:42,400
KP? Uh through the convention scene. So
 

2541
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,990
KP? Uh through the convention scene. So
going to different conventions

2542
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:44,000
going to different conventions
 

2543
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,829
going to different conventions
basically. she would either be a

2544
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:45,839
basically. she would either be a
 

2545
00:55:45,839 --> 00:55:48,309
basically. she would either be a
panelist or a guest. She would show up

2546
00:55:48,309 --> 00:55:48,319
panelist or a guest. She would show up
 

2547
00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:51,589
panelist or a guest. She would show up
to these cons and even back in the early

2548
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:51,599
to these cons and even back in the early
 

2549
00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:53,829
to these cons and even back in the early
days it was kind of um you know everyone

2550
00:55:53,829 --> 00:55:53,839
days it was kind of um you know everyone
 

2551
00:55:53,839 --> 00:55:56,470
days it was kind of um you know everyone
was trying to be friends together and

2552
00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:56,480
was trying to be friends together and
 

2553
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,270
was trying to be friends together and
and you know establish relationships but

2554
00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:59,280
and you know establish relationships but
 

2555
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,470
and you know establish relationships but
you would find that there were some

2556
00:56:00,470 --> 00:56:00,480
you would find that there were some
 

2557
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,390
you would find that there were some
people that just you know you weren't

2558
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:02,400
people that just you know you weren't
 

2559
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,990
people that just you know you weren't
necessarily vibing with or that they

2560
00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:04,000
necessarily vibing with or that they
 

2561
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,710
necessarily vibing with or that they
weren't on the same wavelength. So, uh,

2562
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:06,720
weren't on the same wavelength. So, uh,
 

2563
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:08,630
weren't on the same wavelength. So, uh,
KP was one of those individuals early on

2564
00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:08,640
KP was one of those individuals early on
 

2565
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,510
KP was one of those individuals early on
to me that, um, I just got a sense of

2566
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:11,520
to me that, um, I just got a sense of
 

2567
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,910
to me that, um, I just got a sense of
entitlement and a sense of, you know,

2568
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:13,920
entitlement and a sense of, you know,
 

2569
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,190
entitlement and a sense of, you know,
her demeanor was very off-putting. So, a

2570
00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:17,200
her demeanor was very off-putting. So, a
 

2571
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,430
her demeanor was very off-putting. So, a
lot of people kind of created this,

2572
00:56:20,430 --> 00:56:20,440
lot of people kind of created this,
 

2573
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,870
lot of people kind of created this,
uh, you know, mindset like don't

2574
00:56:22,870 --> 00:56:22,880
uh, you know, mindset like don't
 

2575
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,190
uh, you know, mindset like don't
necessarily include KP if she's trying

2576
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:25,200
necessarily include KP if she's trying
 

2577
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,150
necessarily include KP if she's trying
to wedge her way into panels and or, you

2578
00:56:28,150 --> 00:56:28,160
to wedge her way into panels and or, you
 

2579
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,470
to wedge her way into panels and or, you
know, scenes on these uh, these

2580
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:30,480
know, scenes on these uh, these
 

2581
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:31,829
know, scenes on these uh, these
convention floors and stuff like that.

2582
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:31,839
convention floors and stuff like that.
 

2583
00:56:31,839 --> 00:56:33,990
convention floors and stuff like that.
So yeah, I mean I have firsthand

2584
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:34,000
So yeah, I mean I have firsthand
 

2585
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,510
So yeah, I mean I have firsthand
experience of times where I've had to

2586
00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:35,520
experience of times where I've had to
 

2587
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,670
experience of times where I've had to
kind of you know create that wall for

2588
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:37,680
kind of you know create that wall for
 

2589
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,549
kind of you know create that wall for
her to just say like don't try to you

2590
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:40,559
her to just say like don't try to you
 

2591
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:43,030
her to just say like don't try to you
know come into our space because you

2592
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:43,040
know come into our space because you
 

2593
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,109
know come into our space because you
know you have this sense that like you

2594
00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:45,119
know you have this sense that like you
 

2595
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:47,829
know you have this sense that like you
know nepotism or not nepotism what is it

2596
00:56:47,829 --> 00:56:47,839
know nepotism or not nepotism what is it
 

2597
00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:50,470
know nepotism or not nepotism what is it
narcissism? Yeah like narcissism is uh

2598
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:50,480
narcissism? Yeah like narcissism is uh
 

2599
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,309
narcissism? Yeah like narcissism is uh
strong with her.

2600
00:56:53,309 --> 00:56:53,319
strong with her.
 

2601
00:56:53,319 --> 00:56:55,990
strong with her.
So yeah go ahead. Can you give me some

2602
00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:56,000
So yeah go ahead. Can you give me some
 

2603
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,670
So yeah go ahead. Can you give me some
examples of some experiences you guys

2604
00:56:57,670 --> 00:56:57,680
examples of some experiences you guys
 

2605
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,589
examples of some experiences you guys
have just had with KP over the years?

2606
00:56:59,589 --> 00:56:59,599
have just had with KP over the years?
 

2607
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:01,589
have just had with KP over the years?
Because I know, you know, Sabre

2608
00:57:01,589 --> 00:57:01,599
Because I know, you know, Sabre
 

2609
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:03,789
Because I know, you know, Sabre
mentioned their relationship in the

2610
00:57:03,789 --> 00:57:03,799
mentioned their relationship in the
 

2611
00:57:03,799 --> 00:57:06,950
mentioned their relationship in the
response and I think it would be helpful

2612
00:57:06,950 --> 00:57:06,960
response and I think it would be helpful
 

2613
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,750
response and I think it would be helpful
for people to get that picture.

2614
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:09,760
for people to get that picture.
 

2615
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,870
for people to get that picture.
Yeah. So, uh well, a firsthand

2616
00:57:12,870 --> 00:57:12,880
Yeah. So, uh well, a firsthand
 

2617
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,109
Yeah. So, uh well, a firsthand
experience would be uh so at uh

2618
00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:15,119
experience would be uh so at uh
 

2619
00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:16,430
experience would be uh so at uh
Equestria

2620
00:57:16,430 --> 00:57:16,440
Equestria
 

2621
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,910
Equestria
LA 2017, we had a bad fanfic banfic

2622
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:21,920
LA 2017, we had a bad fanfic banfic
 

2623
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,710
LA 2017, we had a bad fanfic banfic
reading panel. KP showed up. She was

2624
00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:24,720
reading panel. KP showed up. She was
 

2625
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,549
reading panel. KP showed up. She was
sitting in the front row kind of

2626
00:57:26,549 --> 00:57:26,559
sitting in the front row kind of
 

2627
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:28,230
sitting in the front row kind of
heckling us the whole time saying, "Hey,

2628
00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:28,240
heckling us the whole time saying, "Hey,
 

2629
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,309
heckling us the whole time saying, "Hey,
let me go up on stage, you know, just

2630
00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:30,319
let me go up on stage, you know, just
 

2631
00:57:30,319 --> 00:57:31,589
let me go up on stage, you know, just
trying to kind of wedge her way into

2632
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:31,599
trying to kind of wedge her way into
 

2633
00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:33,349
trying to kind of wedge her way into
this thing where we had to, you know,

2634
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:33,359
this thing where we had to, you know,
 

2635
00:57:33,359 --> 00:57:35,349
this thing where we had to, you know,
get prior approval to get this panel

2636
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:35,359
get prior approval to get this panel
 

2637
00:57:35,359 --> 00:57:37,270
get prior approval to get this panel
approved." We had the people who are

2638
00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:37,280
approved." We had the people who are
 

2639
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,870
approved." We had the people who are
panelists on that panel, um, she has

2640
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:40,880
panelists on that panel, um, she has
 

2641
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,630
panelists on that panel, um, she has
done this many times where it it's kind

2642
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:42,640
done this many times where it it's kind
 

2643
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,390
done this many times where it it's kind
of, you know, she thinks she knows best

2644
00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:44,400
of, you know, she thinks she knows best
 

2645
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,190
of, you know, she thinks she knows best
or that she should be included and tries

2646
00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:47,200
or that she should be included and tries
 

2647
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,069
or that she should be included and tries
to wedge her way in. um other

2648
00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:50,079
to wedge her way in. um other
 

2649
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:51,990
to wedge her way in. um other
experiences that you know I wasn't

2650
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:52,000
experiences that you know I wasn't
 

2651
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,789
experiences that you know I wasn't
necessarily firsthand for uh she was at

2652
00:57:55,789 --> 00:57:55,799
necessarily firsthand for uh she was at
 

2653
00:57:55,799 --> 00:57:59,910
necessarily firsthand for uh she was at
Ciderfest uh and a artist named Jen

2654
00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:59,920
Ciderfest uh and a artist named Jen
 

2655
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:03,750
Ciderfest uh and a artist named Jen
Blake had a booth in the vendor hall. uh

2656
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:03,760
Blake had a booth in the vendor hall. uh
 

2657
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,510
Blake had a booth in the vendor hall. uh
KP, you know, trying to talk to Jen, uh,

2658
00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:07,520
KP, you know, trying to talk to Jen, uh,
 

2659
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,510
KP, you know, trying to talk to Jen, uh,
positions herself kind of behind the

2660
00:58:09,510 --> 00:58:09,520
positions herself kind of behind the
 

2661
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,150
positions herself kind of behind the
vendor table. And as Jen is taking on

2662
00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:12,160
vendor table. And as Jen is taking on
 

2663
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,230
vendor table. And as Jen is taking on
commissions and, you know, interacting

2664
00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:14,240
commissions and, you know, interacting
 

2665
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,470
commissions and, you know, interacting
with guests who are there for her, uh,

2666
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:16,480
with guests who are there for her, uh,
 

2667
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,549
with guests who are there for her, uh,
KP wedges herself in and says, you know,

2668
00:58:18,549 --> 00:58:18,559
KP wedges herself in and says, you know,
 

2669
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:20,309
KP wedges herself in and says, you know,
oh, I'd be willing to, you know, take

2670
00:58:20,309 --> 00:58:20,319
oh, I'd be willing to, you know, take
 

2671
00:58:20,319 --> 00:58:21,910
oh, I'd be willing to, you know, take
some commissions, you know, if you guys

2672
00:58:21,910 --> 00:58:21,920
some commissions, you know, if you guys
 

2673
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,549
some commissions, you know, if you guys
want from me. And kind of almost like

2674
00:58:24,549 --> 00:58:24,559
want from me. And kind of almost like
 

2675
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:26,309
want from me. And kind of almost like
trying to funnel business away from the

2676
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:26,319
trying to funnel business away from the
 

2677
00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:29,109
trying to funnel business away from the
actual comic artist that works on IDW's,

2678
00:58:29,109 --> 00:58:29,119
actual comic artist that works on IDW's,
 

2679
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:31,750
actual comic artist that works on IDW's,
you know, MLP comics. And I could tell

2680
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:31,760
you know, MLP comics. And I could tell
 

2681
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,990
you know, MLP comics. And I could tell
that Jen was very uncomfortable about

2682
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:34,000
that Jen was very uncomfortable about
 

2683
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,670
that Jen was very uncomfortable about
the whole situation and kind of made it

2684
00:58:35,670 --> 00:58:35,680
the whole situation and kind of made it
 

2685
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,030
the whole situation and kind of made it
clear that, you know, KP was not welcome

2686
00:58:38,030 --> 00:58:38,040
clear that, you know, KP was not welcome
 

2687
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,190
clear that, you know, KP was not welcome
to be there anymore. Um because like

2688
00:58:41,190 --> 00:58:41,200
to be there anymore. Um because like
 

2689
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,950
to be there anymore. Um because like
yeah, she just didn't have like this

2690
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:42,960
yeah, she just didn't have like this
 

2691
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,829
yeah, she just didn't have like this
concept of what she was doing was wrong.

2692
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:45,839
concept of what she was doing was wrong.
 

2693
00:58:45,839 --> 00:58:48,109
concept of what she was doing was wrong.
Um and she has many instances of that.

2694
00:58:48,109 --> 00:58:48,119
Um and she has many instances of that.
 

2695
00:58:48,119 --> 00:58:51,190
Um and she has many instances of that.
Uh I mean I can even point to another

2696
00:58:51,190 --> 00:58:51,200
Uh I mean I can even point to another
 

2697
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,829
Uh I mean I can even point to another
one where it's more of a private thing.

2698
00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:53,839
one where it's more of a private thing.
 

2699
00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:55,910
one where it's more of a private thing.
So it's not necessarily something where

2700
00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:55,920
So it's not necessarily something where
 

2701
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,270
So it's not necessarily something where
I'm going to say I had firsthand

2702
00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:57,280
I'm going to say I had firsthand
 

2703
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,430
I'm going to say I had firsthand
experience, but I heard the story. Uh,

2704
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:59,440
experience, but I heard the story. Uh,
 

2705
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,030
experience, but I heard the story. Uh,
so she moved to California and um, who

2706
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:03,040
so she moved to California and um, who
 

2707
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,230
so she moved to California and um, who
was it? Rachel Bloom was having a like

2708
00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:06,240
was it? Rachel Bloom was having a like
 

2709
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,470
was it? Rachel Bloom was having a like
show within uh, LA and she's a

2710
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:08,480
show within uh, LA and she's a
 

2711
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:09,910
show within uh, LA and she's a
well-known individual kind of, you know,

2712
00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:09,920
well-known individual kind of, you know,
 

2713
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:10,750
well-known individual kind of, you know,
has

2714
00:59:10,750 --> 00:59:10,760
has
 

2715
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,150
has
a awards and history, you know, and I

2716
00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:14,160
a awards and history, you know, and I
 

2717
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,670
a awards and history, you know, and I
can see the appeal of wanting to go to

2718
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:15,680
can see the appeal of wanting to go to
 

2719
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,750
can see the appeal of wanting to go to
say like a Rachel Bloom show. She's a

2720
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:17,760
say like a Rachel Bloom show. She's a
 

2721
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,829
say like a Rachel Bloom show. She's a
fan. Um, the problem was is that KP kept

2722
00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:21,839
fan. Um, the problem was is that KP kept
 

2723
00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:24,390
fan. Um, the problem was is that KP kept
telling people that she had an inn or

2724
00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:24,400
telling people that she had an inn or
 

2725
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,789
telling people that she had an inn or
like some sort of connection to, you

2726
00:59:26,789 --> 00:59:26,799
like some sort of connection to, you
 

2727
00:59:26,799 --> 00:59:28,630
like some sort of connection to, you
know, talk to Rachel Bloom and she

2728
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:28,640
know, talk to Rachel Bloom and she
 

2729
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,309
know, talk to Rachel Bloom and she
really wanted to go to the show to kind

2730
00:59:30,309 --> 00:59:30,319
really wanted to go to the show to kind
 

2731
00:59:30,319 --> 00:59:32,870
really wanted to go to the show to kind
of hand over her portfolio and see if

2732
00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:32,880
of hand over her portfolio and see if
 

2733
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,430
of hand over her portfolio and see if
they could work together on stuff. Well,

2734
00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:35,440
they could work together on stuff. Well,
 

2735
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,589
they could work together on stuff. Well,
she lied about that. She she never

2736
00:59:37,589 --> 00:59:37,599
she lied about that. She she never
 

2737
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:39,270
she lied about that. She she never
actually had like a connection with

2738
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:39,280
actually had like a connection with
 

2739
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,950
actually had like a connection with
Rachel Bloom. She just knew that the

2740
00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:40,960
Rachel Bloom. She just knew that the
 

2741
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,309
Rachel Bloom. She just knew that the
show was going to happen and she was

2742
00:59:42,309 --> 00:59:42,319
show was going to happen and she was
 

2743
00:59:42,319 --> 00:59:43,670
show was going to happen and she was
going to kind of more or less spring it

2744
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:43,680
going to kind of more or less spring it
 

2745
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,510
going to kind of more or less spring it
on her at the end and just like wait

2746
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:45,520
on her at the end and just like wait
 

2747
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,670
on her at the end and just like wait
outside the stage door to give her

2748
00:59:47,670 --> 00:59:47,680
outside the stage door to give her
 

2749
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,829
outside the stage door to give her
things. But when people, you know, asked

2750
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:49,839
things. But when people, you know, asked
 

2751
00:59:49,839 --> 00:59:51,510
things. But when people, you know, asked
her, "Hey, how do you have a connection

2752
00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:51,520
her, "Hey, how do you have a connection
 

2753
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,990
her, "Hey, how do you have a connection
with this? Like, how did you, you know,

2754
00:59:53,990 --> 00:59:54,000
with this? Like, how did you, you know,
 

2755
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,549
with this? Like, how did you, you know,
broker this deal?" Um, you know, she's

2756
00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:56,559
broker this deal?" Um, you know, she's
 

2757
00:59:56,559 --> 00:59:58,309
broker this deal?" Um, you know, she's
lying the whole time saying, "Oh, well,

2758
00:59:58,309 --> 00:59:58,319
lying the whole time saying, "Oh, well,
 

2759
00:59:58,319 --> 01:00:00,150
lying the whole time saying, "Oh, well,
you know, I just I have a way to, you

2760
01:00:00,150 --> 01:00:00,160
you know, I just I have a way to, you
 

2761
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,069
you know, I just I have a way to, you
know, get to her and talk to her about

2762
01:00:02,069 --> 01:00:02,079
know, get to her and talk to her about
 

2763
01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:03,190
know, get to her and talk to her about
this stuff, and I just want to see if

2764
01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:03,200
this stuff, and I just want to see if
 

2765
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,430
this stuff, and I just want to see if
she wants to work on this project, you

2766
01:00:05,430 --> 01:00:05,440
she wants to work on this project, you
 

2767
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,390
she wants to work on this project, you
know, a video project." And yeah, it's

2768
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:08,400
know, a video project." And yeah, it's
 

2769
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,030
know, a video project." And yeah, it's
just it's example after example. Um,

2770
01:00:11,030 --> 01:00:11,040
just it's example after example. Um,
 

2771
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,710
just it's example after example. Um,
Casey and I, well, mainly Casey tried

2772
01:00:14,710 --> 01:00:14,720
Casey and I, well, mainly Casey tried
 

2773
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,630
Casey and I, well, mainly Casey tried
really hard when she first moved to LA

2774
01:00:16,630 --> 01:00:16,640
really hard when she first moved to LA
 

2775
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,030
really hard when she first moved to LA
to be a mentor for her. I had already

2776
01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:19,040
to be a mentor for her. I had already
 

2777
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,870
to be a mentor for her. I had already
had my prior experience with her, so I

2778
01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:20,880
had my prior experience with her, so I
 

2779
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,470
had my prior experience with her, so I
was already I had written her off kind

2780
01:00:22,470 --> 01:00:22,480
was already I had written her off kind
 

2781
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,710
was already I had written her off kind
of as I'll believe it when I see it.

2782
01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:24,720
of as I'll believe it when I see it.
 

2783
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,030
of as I'll believe it when I see it.
Like her attitude changed and her her

2784
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:27,040
Like her attitude changed and her her
 

2785
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,829
Like her attitude changed and her her
demeanor changed. Um, but when she moved

2786
01:00:29,829 --> 01:00:29,839
demeanor changed. Um, but when she moved
 

2787
01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:32,630
demeanor changed. Um, but when she moved
to LA, she was very much in the mindset

2788
01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:32,640
to LA, she was very much in the mindset
 

2789
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,069
to LA, she was very much in the mindset
of, hey, I want to kind of like, you

2790
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:34,079
of, hey, I want to kind of like, you
 

2791
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:36,710
of, hey, I want to kind of like, you
know, start over. I want to, you know,

2792
01:00:36,710 --> 01:00:36,720
know, start over. I want to, you know,
 

2793
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,190
know, start over. I want to, you know,
be better. Uh, so Casey offered to be

2794
01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:39,200
be better. Uh, so Casey offered to be
 

2795
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,349
be better. Uh, so Casey offered to be
her mentor and pointed out many times

2796
01:00:41,349 --> 01:00:41,359
her mentor and pointed out many times
 

2797
01:00:41,359 --> 01:00:43,670
her mentor and pointed out many times
where it was like, hey, you can't kind

2798
01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:43,680
where it was like, hey, you can't kind
 

2799
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,230
where it was like, hey, you can't kind
of act this way towards people. You need

2800
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:46,240
of act this way towards people. You need
 

2801
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,230
of act this way towards people. You need
to also be mindful that, you know, if

2802
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:48,240
to also be mindful that, you know, if
 

2803
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,270
to also be mindful that, you know, if
people don't want to be friends with

2804
01:00:49,270 --> 01:00:49,280
people don't want to be friends with
 

2805
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,750
people don't want to be friends with
you, you don't have that uh right to

2806
01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:51,760
you, you don't have that uh right to
 

2807
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,589
you, you don't have that uh right to
say, you know, you need to be friends

2808
01:00:53,589 --> 01:00:53,599
say, you know, you need to be friends
 

2809
01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:56,309
say, you know, you need to be friends
with me. Um, the narcissism part, you

2810
01:00:56,309 --> 01:00:56,319
with me. Um, the narcissism part, you
 

2811
01:00:56,319 --> 01:00:58,549
with me. Um, the narcissism part, you
know, rearing his head. I would just say

2812
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:58,559
know, rearing his head. I would just say
 

2813
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:02,069
know, rearing his head. I would just say
that KP yeah had a many examples of um

2814
01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:02,079
that KP yeah had a many examples of um
 

2815
01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:04,230
that KP yeah had a many examples of um
another individual who she had beef with

2816
01:01:04,230 --> 01:01:04,240
another individual who she had beef with
 

2817
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,390
another individual who she had beef with
was uh AC race best.

2818
01:01:07,390 --> 01:01:07,400
was uh AC race best.
 

2819
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,069
was uh AC race best.
He he basically said I don't want to be

2820
01:01:10,069 --> 01:01:10,079
He he basically said I don't want to be
 

2821
01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:13,430
He he basically said I don't want to be
friends with you long time ago. Uh I

2822
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:13,440
friends with you long time ago. Uh I
 

2823
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,829
friends with you long time ago. Uh I
think Casey, you know, suggested that KP

2824
01:01:15,829 --> 01:01:15,839
think Casey, you know, suggested that KP
 

2825
01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:17,670
think Casey, you know, suggested that KP
reach out and try to get to the bottom

2826
01:01:17,670 --> 01:01:17,680
reach out and try to get to the bottom
 

2827
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,589
reach out and try to get to the bottom
of why they never could be friends. He

2828
01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:19,599
of why they never could be friends. He
 

2829
01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:21,270
of why they never could be friends. He
gave her a, you know, a detailed

2830
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:21,280
gave her a, you know, a detailed
 

2831
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,750
gave her a, you know, a detailed
response as to why his reasons and she

2832
01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:23,760
response as to why his reasons and she
 

2833
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,190
response as to why his reasons and she
lashed out. She basically started

2834
01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:25,200
lashed out. She basically started
 

2835
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,950
lashed out. She basically started
cursing him out, sending him a long

2836
01:01:26,950 --> 01:01:26,960
cursing him out, sending him a long
 

2837
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,950
cursing him out, sending him a long
message. I'm sure there is a chat log

2838
01:01:28,950 --> 01:01:28,960
message. I'm sure there is a chat log
 

2839
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,470
message. I'm sure there is a chat log
out there that could actually be uh

2840
01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:30,480
out there that could actually be uh
 

2841
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,789
out there that could actually be uh
presented for that, but it just it goes

2842
01:01:32,789 --> 01:01:32,799
presented for that, but it just it goes
 

2843
01:01:32,799 --> 01:01:35,270
presented for that, but it just it goes
to show that she definitely has had both

2844
01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:35,280
to show that she definitely has had both
 

2845
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,789
to show that she definitely has had both
a uh a beef with Steven and other

2846
01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:38,799
a uh a beef with Steven and other
 

2847
01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:40,710
a uh a beef with Steven and other
individuals who haven't kind of in her

2848
01:01:40,710 --> 01:01:40,720
individuals who haven't kind of in her
 

2849
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,789
individuals who haven't kind of in her
mind lifted her up with them. You know,

2850
01:01:42,789 --> 01:01:42,799
mind lifted her up with them. You know,
 

2851
01:01:42,799 --> 01:01:45,510
mind lifted her up with them. You know,
they became successful and she saw it as

2852
01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:45,520
they became successful and she saw it as
 

2853
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:50,309
they became successful and she saw it as
why not me. uh you know her her content

2854
01:01:50,309 --> 01:01:50,319
why not me. uh you know her her content
 

2855
01:01:50,319 --> 01:01:51,990
why not me. uh you know her her content
in the community as a whole was kind of

2856
01:01:51,990 --> 01:01:52,000
in the community as a whole was kind of
 

2857
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,910
in the community as a whole was kind of
lackluster or like you know it it got

2858
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:53,920
lackluster or like you know it it got
 

2859
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,230
lackluster or like you know it it got
views but as soon as you know she kind

2860
01:01:56,230 --> 01:01:56,240
views but as soon as you know she kind
 

2861
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,829
views but as soon as you know she kind
of wanted to shift away from that she

2862
01:01:57,829 --> 01:01:57,839
of wanted to shift away from that she
 

2863
01:01:57,839 --> 01:02:00,069
of wanted to shift away from that she
couldn't pivot in a way where her

2864
01:02:00,069 --> 01:02:00,079
couldn't pivot in a way where her
 

2865
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:03,109
couldn't pivot in a way where her
content was thriving so I think she very

2866
01:02:03,109 --> 01:02:03,119
content was thriving so I think she very
 

2867
01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:05,670
content was thriving so I think she very
much internalized a lot of this like why

2868
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:05,680
much internalized a lot of this like why
 

2869
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,589
much internalized a lot of this like why
is it that Steven was able to do that

2870
01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:07,599
is it that Steven was able to do that
 

2871
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:09,270
is it that Steven was able to do that
with Saber Spark why is it that other

2872
01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:09,280
with Saber Spark why is it that other
 

2873
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:10,630
with Saber Spark why is it that other
individuals are able to make their

2874
01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:10,640
individuals are able to make their
 

2875
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,349
individuals are able to make their
livelihood you know work for them so

2876
01:02:13,349 --> 01:02:13,359
livelihood you know work for them so
 

2877
01:02:13,359 --> 01:02:15,349
livelihood you know work for them so
yeah those are just some of the examples

2878
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:15,359
yeah those are just some of the examples
 

2879
01:02:15,359 --> 01:02:17,670
yeah those are just some of the examples
firstly you wanted to add correction for

2880
01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:17,680
firstly you wanted to add correction for
 

2881
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:23,270
firstly you wanted to add correction for
Henry uh for the uh race best story. Oh

2882
01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:23,280
Henry uh for the uh race best story. Oh
 

2883
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,789
Henry uh for the uh race best story. Oh
yeah. Um I never advised Rachel to

2884
01:02:27,789 --> 01:02:27,799
yeah. Um I never advised Rachel to
 

2885
01:02:27,799 --> 01:02:31,390
yeah. Um I never advised Rachel to
contact Jeffree at all.

2886
01:02:31,390 --> 01:02:31,400
contact Jeffree at all.
 

2887
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,030
contact Jeffree at all.
Um I talked to her after she had lashed

2888
01:02:35,030 --> 01:02:35,040
Um I talked to her after she had lashed
 

2889
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,510
Um I talked to her after she had lashed
out and I was not happy with her and I

2890
01:02:37,510 --> 01:02:37,520
out and I was not happy with her and I
 

2891
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,829
out and I was not happy with her and I
told her as much.

2892
01:02:41,829 --> 01:02:41,839

 

2893
01:02:41,839 --> 01:02:44,870

This is all very just disappointing and

2894
01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:44,880
This is all very just disappointing and
 

2895
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,069
This is all very just disappointing and
sad for me personally. So, I'm sorry if

2896
01:02:48,069 --> 01:02:48,079
sad for me personally. So, I'm sorry if
 

2897
01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:49,950
sad for me personally. So, I'm sorry if
I sigh quite a

2898
01:02:49,950 --> 01:02:49,960
I sigh quite a
 

2899
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:54,150
I sigh quite a
bit. I I pointed out that her they they

2900
01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:54,160
bit. I I pointed out that her they they
 

2901
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,309
bit. I I pointed out that her they they
have very little in common other than

2902
01:02:56,309 --> 01:02:56,319
have very little in common other than
 

2903
01:02:56,319 --> 01:02:59,109
have very little in common other than
liking one TV show in the whole world

2904
01:02:59,109 --> 01:02:59,119
liking one TV show in the whole world
 

2905
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:01,430
liking one TV show in the whole world
and what is her deal with wanting to be

2906
01:03:01,430 --> 01:03:01,440
and what is her deal with wanting to be
 

2907
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,510
and what is her deal with wanting to be
friends with this one guy. And she

2908
01:03:03,510 --> 01:03:03,520
friends with this one guy. And she
 

2909
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,069
friends with this one guy. And she
didn't have a very good answer for me.

2910
01:03:06,069 --> 01:03:06,079
didn't have a very good answer for me.
 

2911
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:08,789
didn't have a very good answer for me.
She she struggled with that. She

2912
01:03:08,789 --> 01:03:08,799
She she struggled with that. She
 

2913
01:03:08,799 --> 01:03:11,030
She she struggled with that. She
literally stammered to the point where I

2914
01:03:11,030 --> 01:03:11,040
literally stammered to the point where I
 

2915
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,710
literally stammered to the point where I
don't actually remember what she said.

2916
01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:12,720
don't actually remember what she said.
 

2917
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,309
don't actually remember what she said.
It wasn't very

2918
01:03:15,309 --> 01:03:15,319
It wasn't very
 

2919
01:03:15,319 --> 01:03:18,309
It wasn't very
substantial. But no, I did not tell her

2920
01:03:18,309 --> 01:03:18,319
substantial. But no, I did not tell her
 

2921
01:03:18,319 --> 01:03:21,589
substantial. But no, I did not tell her
to reach out to Jeff. Um, he told me

2922
01:03:21,589 --> 01:03:21,599
to reach out to Jeff. Um, he told me
 

2923
01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:24,630
to reach out to Jeff. Um, he told me
that she lashed out and you could

2924
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:24,640
that she lashed out and you could
 

2925
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,390
that she lashed out and you could
probably tell the story of how

2926
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:26,400
probably tell the story of how
 

2927
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,870
probably tell the story of how
frustrated I was with her because I went

2928
01:03:28,870 --> 01:03:28,880
frustrated I was with her because I went
 

2929
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,069
frustrated I was with her because I went
to bat for Rachel. And I had I had told

2930
01:03:32,069 --> 01:03:32,079
to bat for Rachel. And I had I had told
 

2931
01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:35,750
to bat for Rachel. And I had I had told
people that moving to LA had caused her

2932
01:03:35,750 --> 01:03:35,760
people that moving to LA had caused her
 

2933
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,190
people that moving to LA had caused her
to grow and mature as a person. It it is

2934
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:39,200
to grow and mature as a person. It it is
 

2935
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:40,870
to grow and mature as a person. It it is
difficult. The entertainment industry is

2936
01:03:40,870 --> 01:03:40,880
difficult. The entertainment industry is
 

2937
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,190
difficult. The entertainment industry is
difficult. Let's be real. And she was

2938
01:03:43,190 --> 01:03:43,200
difficult. Let's be real. And she was
 

2939
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,710
difficult. Let's be real. And she was
trying. And I thought maybe it would

2940
01:03:44,710 --> 01:03:44,720
trying. And I thought maybe it would
 

2941
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,309
trying. And I thought maybe it would
have given her some life perspective

2942
01:03:46,309 --> 01:03:46,319
have given her some life perspective
 

2943
01:03:46,319 --> 01:03:49,270
have given her some life perspective
that she had lacked before. And then she

2944
01:03:49,270 --> 01:03:49,280
that she had lacked before. And then she
 

2945
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,910
that she had lacked before. And then she
went and made me out to be a liar. And I

2946
01:03:51,910 --> 01:03:51,920
went and made me out to be a liar. And I
 

2947
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,950
went and made me out to be a liar. And I
was super not happy with her about that.

2948
01:03:54,950 --> 01:03:54,960
was super not happy with her about that.
 

2949
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,069
was super not happy with her about that.
Like that's this is I I mean is it fair

2950
01:03:58,069 --> 01:03:58,079
Like that's this is I I mean is it fair
 

2951
01:03:58,079 --> 01:03:59,829
Like that's this is I I mean is it fair
to say that this is the end of any

2952
01:03:59,829 --> 01:03:59,839
to say that this is the end of any
 

2953
01:03:59,839 --> 01:04:01,990
to say that this is the end of any
industry contact she had left that

2954
01:04:01,990 --> 01:04:02,000
industry contact she had left that
 

2955
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,589
industry contact she had left that
essentially it's destroyed any remaining

2956
01:04:03,589 --> 01:04:03,599
essentially it's destroyed any remaining
 

2957
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:08,910
essentially it's destroyed any remaining
friendship she

2958
01:04:08,910 --> 01:04:08,920

 

2959
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,990

had.

2960
01:04:10,990 --> 01:04:11,000
had.
 

2961
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:17,950
had.
That's as far as my sphere that's pretty

2962
01:04:17,950 --> 01:04:17,960
That's as far as my sphere that's pretty
 

2963
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,270
That's as far as my sphere that's pretty
accurate. I I know that people that I

2964
01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:21,280
accurate. I I know that people that I
 

2965
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,910
accurate. I I know that people that I
know know that if I say something, I

2966
01:04:23,910 --> 01:04:23,920
know know that if I say something, I
 

2967
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,630
know know that if I say something, I
mean it. And I did tell everyone. I

2968
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:26,640
mean it. And I did tell everyone. I
 

2969
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,630
mean it. And I did tell everyone. I
posted the link to my Twitter and I

2970
01:04:28,630 --> 01:04:28,640
posted the link to my Twitter and I
 

2971
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,390
posted the link to my Twitter and I
said, "This is my stance. I just want

2972
01:04:30,390 --> 01:04:30,400
said, "This is my stance. I just want
 

2973
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,950
said, "This is my stance. I just want
all of you to know." And I already knew

2974
01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:34,960
all of you to know." And I already knew
 

2975
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,029
all of you to know." And I already knew
that a lot of our mutuals had put her on

2976
01:04:37,029 --> 01:04:37,039
that a lot of our mutuals had put her on
 

2977
01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:39,069
that a lot of our mutuals had put her on
the information

2978
01:04:39,069 --> 01:04:39,079
the information
 

2979
01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:42,029
the information
diet. So

2980
01:04:42,029 --> 01:04:42,039
diet. So
 

2981
01:04:42,039 --> 01:04:46,470
diet. So
like, did this do it? I don't think so.

2982
01:04:46,470 --> 01:04:46,480
like, did this do it? I don't think so.
 

2983
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,109
like, did this do it? I don't think so.
She was She had already dug the grave.

2984
01:04:49,109 --> 01:04:49,119
She was She had already dug the grave.
 

2985
01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:52,549
She was She had already dug the grave.
This is just the last pile of dirt. As

2986
01:04:52,549 --> 01:04:52,559
This is just the last pile of dirt. As
 

2987
01:04:52,559 --> 01:04:55,589
This is just the last pile of dirt. As
far as industry contexts, what did she

2988
01:04:55,589 --> 01:04:55,599
far as industry contexts, what did she
 

2989
01:04:55,599 --> 01:04:57,430
far as industry contexts, what did she
have? Before we move forward, I want to

2990
01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:57,440
have? Before we move forward, I want to
 

2991
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,270
have? Before we move forward, I want to
add a little disclaimer here because

2992
01:04:59,270 --> 01:04:59,280
add a little disclaimer here because
 

2993
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:00,470
add a little disclaimer here because
we're going to talk about the other

2994
01:05:00,470 --> 01:05:00,480
we're going to talk about the other
 

2995
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,309
we're going to talk about the other
people who were involved in this. And I

2996
01:05:02,309 --> 01:05:02,319
people who were involved in this. And I
 

2997
01:05:02,319 --> 01:05:03,510
people who were involved in this. And I
don't want this to come across as some

2998
01:05:03,510 --> 01:05:03,520
don't want this to come across as some
 

2999
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,150
don't want this to come across as some
sort of exoneration of KP and Courtney.

3000
01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:06,160
sort of exoneration of KP and Courtney.
 

3001
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,069
sort of exoneration of KP and Courtney.
It's just that there are other people

3002
01:05:08,069 --> 01:05:08,079
It's just that there are other people
 

3003
01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:10,789
It's just that there are other people
involved with blood on their hands.

3004
01:05:10,789 --> 01:05:10,799
involved with blood on their hands.
 

3005
01:05:10,799 --> 01:05:12,390
involved with blood on their hands.
Since the video came out, a lot of

3006
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:12,400
Since the video came out, a lot of
 

3007
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:13,910
Since the video came out, a lot of
people have been trying to use them as

3008
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:13,920
people have been trying to use them as
 

3009
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,230
people have been trying to use them as
scapegoats,

3010
01:05:15,230 --> 01:05:15,240
scapegoats,
 

3011
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,750
scapegoats,
understandably, but realistically

3012
01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:17,760
understandably, but realistically
 

3013
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,230
understandably, but realistically
speaking, many of these people should

3014
01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:20,240
speaking, many of these people should
 

3015
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,870
speaking, many of these people should
not be feeling particularly smug right

3016
01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:22,880
not be feeling particularly smug right
 

3017
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,230
not be feeling particularly smug right
now. There are obviously levels of blame

3018
01:05:26,230 --> 01:05:26,240
now. There are obviously levels of blame
 

3019
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,789
now. There are obviously levels of blame
to go around, but one particular group,

3020
01:05:28,789 --> 01:05:28,799
to go around, but one particular group,
 

3021
01:05:28,799 --> 01:05:30,390
to go around, but one particular group,
and where we're going to start, is

3022
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:30,400
and where we're going to start, is
 

3023
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,710
and where we're going to start, is
people who have also run allegations fed

3024
01:05:32,710 --> 01:05:32,720
people who have also run allegations fed
 

3025
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,270
people who have also run allegations fed
to them by Brony Fandone. Because

3026
01:05:35,270 --> 01:05:35,280
to them by Brony Fandone. Because
 

3027
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,190
to them by Brony Fandone. Because
realistically, they've done exactly the

3028
01:05:37,190 --> 01:05:37,200
realistically, they've done exactly the
 

3029
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,430
realistically, they've done exactly the
same thing as KP did. They've just been

3030
01:05:39,430 --> 01:05:39,440
same thing as KP did. They've just been
 

3031
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,510
same thing as KP did. They've just been
lucky about it. And this little group

3032
01:05:41,510 --> 01:05:41,520
lucky about it. And this little group
 

3033
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,670
lucky about it. And this little group
can be perfectly encapsulated through

3034
01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:43,680
can be perfectly encapsulated through
 

3035
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,470
can be perfectly encapsulated through
one particular YouTuber, Lazy Bed Head.

3036
01:05:46,470 --> 01:05:46,480
one particular YouTuber, Lazy Bed Head.
 

3037
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,630
one particular YouTuber, Lazy Bed Head.
The reason we're starting here of all

3038
01:05:48,630 --> 01:05:48,640
The reason we're starting here of all
 

3039
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,230
The reason we're starting here of all
places is because on levels of

3040
01:05:51,230 --> 01:05:51,240
places is because on levels of
 

3041
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,670
places is because on levels of
culpability, just believing a document

3042
01:05:53,670 --> 01:05:53,680
culpability, just believing a document
 

3043
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,029
culpability, just believing a document
that's handed to you is something that

3044
01:05:55,029 --> 01:05:55,039
that's handed to you is something that
 

3045
01:05:55,039 --> 01:05:57,190
that's handed to you is something that
generally speaking a lot of YouTubers

3046
01:05:57,190 --> 01:05:57,200
generally speaking a lot of YouTubers
 

3047
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,029
generally speaking a lot of YouTubers
do. Trusting that the vetting has

3048
01:05:59,029 --> 01:05:59,039
do. Trusting that the vetting has
 

3049
01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:00,870
do. Trusting that the vetting has
already been done for them. In fact,

3050
01:06:00,870 --> 01:06:00,880
already been done for them. In fact,
 

3051
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,190
already been done for them. In fact,
this is KP's defense for why she [\h__\h]

3052
01:06:03,190 --> 01:06:03,200
this is KP's defense for why she [\h__\h]
 

3053
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,670
this is KP's defense for why she [\h__\h]
this up. She believed that Brony found

3054
01:06:05,670 --> 01:06:05,680
this up. She believed that Brony found
 

3055
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,470
this up. She believed that Brony found
and Amy had already vetted Emily. Now,

3056
01:06:08,470 --> 01:06:08,480
and Amy had already vetted Emily. Now,
 

3057
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,870
and Amy had already vetted Emily. Now,
is this incredibly dumb? Of course it

3058
01:06:10,870 --> 01:06:10,880
is this incredibly dumb? Of course it
 

3059
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,870
is this incredibly dumb? Of course it
is. But my annoyance comes from the fact

3060
01:06:12,870 --> 01:06:12,880
is. But my annoyance comes from the fact
 

3061
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,029
is. But my annoyance comes from the fact
that it's shockingly common in this

3062
01:06:15,029 --> 01:06:15,039
that it's shockingly common in this
 

3063
01:06:15,039 --> 01:06:19,270
that it's shockingly common in this
story. Pinky and would ask Pinky if she

3064
01:06:19,270 --> 01:06:19,280
story. Pinky and would ask Pinky if she
 

3065
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,910
story. Pinky and would ask Pinky if she
liked a picture of his penis. Destiny

3066
01:06:21,910 --> 01:06:21,920
liked a picture of his penis. Destiny
 

3067
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,670
liked a picture of his penis. Destiny
would straight up delete the Twitter

3068
01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:23,680
would straight up delete the Twitter
 

3069
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,549
would straight up delete the Twitter
account associated with this interaction

3070
01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:26,559
account associated with this interaction
 

3071
01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:28,789
account associated with this interaction
and wouldn't rediscover Black Griffin

3072
01:06:28,789 --> 01:06:28,799
and wouldn't rediscover Black Griffin
 

3073
01:06:28,799 --> 01:06:31,349
and wouldn't rediscover Black Griffin
until years later when he voiced

3074
01:06:31,349 --> 01:06:31,359
until years later when he voiced
 

3075
01:06:31,359 --> 01:06:34,309
until years later when he voiced
Alistister in the Hasb Hotel pilot.

3076
01:06:34,309 --> 01:06:34,319
Alistister in the Hasb Hotel pilot.
 

3077
01:06:34,319 --> 01:06:36,870
Alistister in the Hasb Hotel pilot.
Destiny also addressed the creators of

3078
01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:36,880
Destiny also addressed the creators of
 

3079
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,670
Destiny also addressed the creators of
Billy Bustup, which we can discuss

3080
01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:39,680
Billy Bustup, which we can discuss
 

3081
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,150
Billy Bustup, which we can discuss
later. Now, since this was when Destiny

3082
01:06:42,150 --> 01:06:42,160
later. Now, since this was when Destiny
 

3083
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,349
later. Now, since this was when Destiny
was 13 years old, hindsight is 2020, so

3084
01:06:45,349 --> 01:06:45,359
was 13 years old, hindsight is 2020, so
 

3085
01:06:45,359 --> 01:06:47,589
was 13 years old, hindsight is 2020, so
none of the chats or this dickpick was

3086
01:06:47,589 --> 01:06:47,599
none of the chats or this dickpick was
 

3087
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:50,230
none of the chats or this dickpick was
ever documented or screenshots taken.

3088
01:06:50,230 --> 01:06:50,240
ever documented or screenshots taken.
 

3089
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,190
ever documented or screenshots taken.
So, for now, these are just allegations

3090
01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:53,200
So, for now, these are just allegations
 

3091
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,750
So, for now, these are just allegations
from memory. Although I do think this

3092
01:06:55,750 --> 01:06:55,760
from memory. Although I do think this
 

3093
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,750
from memory. Although I do think this
testimony coming forward does sort of

3094
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:57,760
testimony coming forward does sort of
 

3095
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,910
testimony coming forward does sort of
confirm the sneaking suspicion that

3096
01:06:59,910 --> 01:06:59,920
confirm the sneaking suspicion that
 

3097
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:02,870
confirm the sneaking suspicion that
people have had about Gabe for years up

3098
01:07:02,870 --> 01:07:02,880
people have had about Gabe for years up
 

3099
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,549
people have had about Gabe for years up
until this point. Source from Courtney

3100
01:07:04,549 --> 01:07:04,559
until this point. Source from Courtney
 

3101
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:06,710
until this point. Source from Courtney
Pete's own video, she interviews two

3102
01:07:06,710 --> 01:07:06,720
Pete's own video, she interviews two
 

3103
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,390
Pete's own video, she interviews two
individuals who have been a part of the

3104
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:08,400
individuals who have been a part of the
 

3105
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,109
individuals who have been a part of the
Brony community and convention spaces

3106
01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:11,119
Brony community and convention spaces
 

3107
01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:13,510
Brony community and convention spaces
for years. Even they have testified that

3108
01:07:13,510 --> 01:07:13,520
for years. Even they have testified that
 

3109
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,990
for years. Even they have testified that
con staff and community members had

3110
01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:16,000
con staff and community members had
 

3111
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,990
con staff and community members had
speculated of Gabriel's grooming

3112
01:07:17,990 --> 01:07:18,000
speculated of Gabriel's grooming
 

3113
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,630
speculated of Gabriel's grooming
relationship with Claire for decades.

3114
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:20,640
relationship with Claire for decades.
 

3115
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,950
relationship with Claire for decades.
Now, this requires us to talk a little

3116
01:07:22,950 --> 01:07:22,960
Now, this requires us to talk a little
 

3117
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,910
Now, this requires us to talk a little
bit about the Black Griffin allegations.

3118
01:07:25,910 --> 01:07:25,920
bit about the Black Griffin allegations.
 

3119
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,510
bit about the Black Griffin allegations.
I don't want to go too deep here because

3120
01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:27,520
I don't want to go too deep here because
 

3121
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,670
I don't want to go too deep here because
it is a hell of a rabbit hole. So, we're

3122
01:07:29,670 --> 01:07:29,680
it is a hell of a rabbit hole. So, we're
 

3123
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,109
it is a hell of a rabbit hole. So, we're
going to focus on the Destiny

3124
01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:31,119
going to focus on the Destiny
 

3125
01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:33,710
going to focus on the Destiny
allegations in particular. To give you a

3126
01:07:33,710 --> 01:07:33,720
allegations in particular. To give you a
 

3127
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,109
allegations in particular. To give you a
TLDDR, Destiny claims that in 2012, she

3128
01:07:37,109 --> 01:07:37,119
TLDDR, Destiny claims that in 2012, she
 

3129
01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:39,190
TLDDR, Destiny claims that in 2012, she
interacted with Gabe and during those

3130
01:07:39,190 --> 01:07:39,200
interacted with Gabe and during those
 

3131
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,870
interacted with Gabe and during those
interactions, while she was a minor,

3132
01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:40,880
interactions, while she was a minor,
 

3133
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,710
interactions, while she was a minor,
Gabe would flirt with her and also

3134
01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:42,720
Gabe would flirt with her and also
 

3135
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,870
Gabe would flirt with her and also
offered her a dickpick. Much like the

3136
01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:44,880
offered her a dickpick. Much like the
 

3137
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,789
offered her a dickpick. Much like the
allegations against Saber Spark, there

3138
01:07:46,789 --> 01:07:46,799
allegations against Saber Spark, there
 

3139
01:07:46,799 --> 01:07:50,230
allegations against Saber Spark, there
is no evidence for this. And even in the

3140
01:07:50,230 --> 01:07:50,240
is no evidence for this. And even in the
 

3141
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,470
is no evidence for this. And even in the
document, it is noted that it can't have

3142
01:07:52,470 --> 01:07:52,480
document, it is noted that it can't have
 

3143
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,950
document, it is noted that it can't have
been in 2012 because Twitter didn't even

3144
01:07:54,950 --> 01:07:54,960
been in 2012 because Twitter didn't even
 

3145
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,670
been in 2012 because Twitter didn't even
add the function to send pictures in DMs

3146
01:07:57,670 --> 01:07:57,680
add the function to send pictures in DMs
 

3147
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,029
add the function to send pictures in DMs
until December of 2013. And yet, Lazy

3148
01:08:01,029 --> 01:08:01,039
until December of 2013. And yet, Lazy
 

3149
01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:03,270
until December of 2013. And yet, Lazy
Bed Head uses the fact the allegations

3150
01:08:03,270 --> 01:08:03,280
Bed Head uses the fact the allegations
 

3151
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,829
Bed Head uses the fact the allegations
even exist in the first place to try and

3152
01:08:05,829 --> 01:08:05,839
even exist in the first place to try and
 

3153
01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:08,549
even exist in the first place to try and
label Black Griffin a predator. And I'd

3154
01:08:08,549 --> 01:08:08,559
label Black Griffin a predator. And I'd
 

3155
01:08:08,559 --> 01:08:10,789
label Black Griffin a predator. And I'd
like you to keep in mind here that Fando

3156
01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:10,799
like you to keep in mind here that Fando
 

3157
01:08:10,799 --> 01:08:13,589
like you to keep in mind here that Fando
themselves admits that they don't have

3158
01:08:13,589 --> 01:08:13,599
themselves admits that they don't have
 

3159
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:15,910
themselves admits that they don't have
proof behind the Destiny allegations. In

3160
01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:15,920
proof behind the Destiny allegations. In
 

3161
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,829
proof behind the Destiny allegations. In
fact, they were using those allegations

3162
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:17,839
fact, they were using those allegations
 

3163
01:08:17,839 --> 01:08:20,309
fact, they were using those allegations
in an attempt to gayop and blackmail

3164
01:08:20,309 --> 01:08:20,319
in an attempt to gayop and blackmail
 

3165
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:22,550
in an attempt to gayop and blackmail
Black Griffin. When that didn't work,

3166
01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:22,560
Black Griffin. When that didn't work,
 

3167
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,110
Black Griffin. When that didn't work,
they released them anyway. And yes, I

3168
01:08:25,110 --> 01:08:25,120
they released them anyway. And yes, I
 

3169
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,030
they released them anyway. And yes, I
can already hear the scratching in my

3170
01:08:27,030 --> 01:08:27,040
can already hear the scratching in my
 

3171
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,749
can already hear the scratching in my
comments section, but Beckett, Black

3172
01:08:29,749 --> 01:08:29,759
comments section, but Beckett, Black
 

3173
01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:32,709
comments section, but Beckett, Black
Griffin is a well doumented groomer. I'm

3174
01:08:32,709 --> 01:08:32,719
Griffin is a well doumented groomer. I'm
 

3175
01:08:32,719 --> 01:08:35,110
Griffin is a well doumented groomer. I'm
not saying that Black Griffin isn't a

3176
01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:35,120
not saying that Black Griffin isn't a
 

3177
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,590
not saying that Black Griffin isn't a
groomer. I don't know. Certainly, some

3178
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:37,600
groomer. I don't know. Certainly, some
 

3179
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,269
groomer. I don't know. Certainly, some
of his interactions are pretty [\h__\h]

3180
01:08:39,269 --> 01:08:39,279
of his interactions are pretty [\h__\h]
 

3181
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:41,430
of his interactions are pretty [\h__\h]
weird, particularly the Deviant Tart

3182
01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:41,440
weird, particularly the Deviant Tart
 

3183
01:08:41,440 --> 01:08:42,950
weird, particularly the Deviant Tart
posts.

3184
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:42,960
posts.
 

3185
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,269
posts.
But when we look through allegations

3186
01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:45,279
But when we look through allegations
 

3187
01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:48,470
But when we look through allegations
like this, you need to have some kind of

3188
01:08:48,470 --> 01:08:48,480
like this, you need to have some kind of
 

3189
01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:50,950
like this, you need to have some kind of
smoking gun. I showed you screenshots

3190
01:08:50,950 --> 01:08:50,960
smoking gun. I showed you screenshots
 

3191
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,510
smoking gun. I showed you screenshots
earlier of Grizzly the medic. In that

3192
01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:53,520
earlier of Grizzly the medic. In that
 

3193
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,229
earlier of Grizzly the medic. In that
instance, you have Grizzly, a security

3194
01:08:56,229 --> 01:08:56,239
instance, you have Grizzly, a security
 

3195
01:08:56,239 --> 01:08:57,829
instance, you have Grizzly, a security
guard at Bronycon who tried to get a

3196
01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:57,839
guard at Bronycon who tried to get a
 

3197
01:08:57,839 --> 01:08:59,269
guard at Bronycon who tried to get a
12-year-old to come up to their hotel

3198
01:08:59,269 --> 01:08:59,279
12-year-old to come up to their hotel
 

3199
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:02,470
12-year-old to come up to their hotel
room in DMs acknowledging someone's age

3200
01:09:02,470 --> 01:09:02,480
room in DMs acknowledging someone's age
 

3201
01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:04,789
room in DMs acknowledging someone's age
and continuing to have explicit

3202
01:09:04,789 --> 01:09:04,799
and continuing to have explicit
 

3203
01:09:04,799 --> 01:09:07,749
and continuing to have explicit
conversations with them in their DMs.

3204
01:09:07,749 --> 01:09:07,759
conversations with them in their DMs.
 

3205
01:09:07,759 --> 01:09:10,870
conversations with them in their DMs.
While Gabe is weird, very, very weird.

3206
01:09:10,870 --> 01:09:10,880
While Gabe is weird, very, very weird.
 

3207
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,709
While Gabe is weird, very, very weird.
This has apparently been going on for a

3208
01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:12,719
This has apparently been going on for a
 

3209
01:09:12,719 --> 01:09:15,669
This has apparently been going on for a
decade and no one has a smoking gun. And

3210
01:09:15,669 --> 01:09:15,679
decade and no one has a smoking gun. And
 

3211
01:09:15,679 --> 01:09:17,430
decade and no one has a smoking gun. And
to be clear, this isn't just internet

3212
01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:17,440
to be clear, this isn't just internet
 

3213
01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:19,990
to be clear, this isn't just internet
stuff. Projects that Black Griffin and

3214
01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:20,000
stuff. Projects that Black Griffin and
 

3215
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,309
stuff. Projects that Black Griffin and
his wife have worked on are targeted.

3216
01:09:22,309 --> 01:09:22,319
his wife have worked on are targeted.
 

3217
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:24,390
his wife have worked on are targeted.
There is a massive public campaign to

3218
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:24,400
There is a massive public campaign to
 

3219
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,709
There is a massive public campaign to
have this guy removed from any project

3220
01:09:26,709 --> 01:09:26,719
have this guy removed from any project
 

3221
01:09:26,719 --> 01:09:28,950
have this guy removed from any project
that associates with him. All of which

3222
01:09:28,950 --> 01:09:28,960
that associates with him. All of which
 

3223
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,189
that associates with him. All of which
is based on the schizophrenic ramblings

3224
01:09:31,189 --> 01:09:31,199
is based on the schizophrenic ramblings
 

3225
01:09:31,199 --> 01:09:33,749
is based on the schizophrenic ramblings
of FanDon't. Now, originally, this

3226
01:09:33,749 --> 01:09:33,759
of FanDon't. Now, originally, this
 

3227
01:09:33,759 --> 01:09:36,309
of FanDon't. Now, originally, this
section was much longer and way more

3228
01:09:36,309 --> 01:09:36,319
section was much longer and way more
 

3229
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:38,550
section was much longer and way more
pissed off. I actually included Anthony

3230
01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:38,560
pissed off. I actually included Anthony
 

3231
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,709
pissed off. I actually included Anthony
Grimolia giving a defense of Lazy Bed

3232
01:09:40,709 --> 01:09:40,719
Grimolia giving a defense of Lazy Bed
 

3233
01:09:40,719 --> 01:09:42,470
Grimolia giving a defense of Lazy Bed
Head just to provide some kind of

3234
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:42,480
Head just to provide some kind of
 

3235
01:09:42,480 --> 01:09:44,950
Head just to provide some kind of
balance, but I have since spoken to her

3236
01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:44,960
balance, but I have since spoken to her
 

3237
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,030
balance, but I have since spoken to her
at length both about the Saber Spark

3238
01:09:47,030 --> 01:09:47,040
at length both about the Saber Spark
 

3239
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,709
at length both about the Saber Spark
allegations and the wider story

3240
01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:48,719
allegations and the wider story
 

3241
01:09:48,719 --> 01:09:51,269
allegations and the wider story
involving Black Griffin. And as much of

3242
01:09:51,269 --> 01:09:51,279
involving Black Griffin. And as much of
 

3243
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:53,829
involving Black Griffin. And as much of
this section was directed pointedly

3244
01:09:53,829 --> 01:09:53,839
this section was directed pointedly
 

3245
01:09:53,839 --> 01:09:56,149
this section was directed pointedly
towards her, that feels a little bit

3246
01:09:56,149 --> 01:09:56,159
towards her, that feels a little bit
 

3247
01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:58,870
towards her, that feels a little bit
redundant at this point. However, just

3248
01:09:58,870 --> 01:09:58,880
redundant at this point. However, just
 

3249
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,030
redundant at this point. However, just
because I've spoken to Lazy doesn't mean

3250
01:10:01,030 --> 01:10:01,040
because I've spoken to Lazy doesn't mean
 

3251
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,510
because I've spoken to Lazy doesn't mean
I don't have massive criticisms for this

3252
01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:03,520
I don't have massive criticisms for this
 

3253
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,750
I don't have massive criticisms for this
video. So, I just want to run over them

3254
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:05,760
video. So, I just want to run over them
 

3255
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,590
video. So, I just want to run over them
in a slightly calmer, more chilled out

3256
01:10:08,590 --> 01:10:08,600
in a slightly calmer, more chilled out
 

3257
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,189
in a slightly calmer, more chilled out
tone. One of my major issues, in fact,

3258
01:10:11,189 --> 01:10:11,199
tone. One of my major issues, in fact,
 

3259
01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:13,430
tone. One of my major issues, in fact,
probably my main issue with this story

3260
01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:13,440
probably my main issue with this story
 

3261
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:15,669
probably my main issue with this story
is the fact that nobody really vetted or

3262
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:15,679
is the fact that nobody really vetted or
 

3263
01:10:15,679 --> 01:10:18,229
is the fact that nobody really vetted or
checked anybody before running things.

3264
01:10:18,229 --> 01:10:18,239
checked anybody before running things.
 

3265
01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:20,310
checked anybody before running things.
For example, Courtney Pete and by

3266
01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:20,320
For example, Courtney Pete and by
 

3267
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,470
For example, Courtney Pete and by
extension Lazy Bedhead used Sophie

3268
01:10:22,470 --> 01:10:22,480
extension Lazy Bedhead used Sophie
 

3269
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:24,790
extension Lazy Bedhead used Sophie
Scruggs as an expert on this community,

3270
01:10:24,790 --> 01:10:24,800
Scruggs as an expert on this community,
 

3271
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,590
Scruggs as an expert on this community,
but Scrugs is not a passive observer.

3272
01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:27,600
but Scrugs is not a passive observer.
 

3273
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,750
but Scrugs is not a passive observer.
We'll get to her section later, but all

3274
01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:29,760
We'll get to her section later, but all
 

3275
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,350
We'll get to her section later, but all
you need to know for the moment is Brony

3276
01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:31,360
you need to know for the moment is Brony
 

3277
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,990
you need to know for the moment is Brony
Fandone is not just one person. Sophie

3278
01:10:33,990 --> 01:10:34,000
Fandone is not just one person. Sophie
 

3279
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:35,830
Fandone is not just one person. Sophie
Scruggs has access to that account and

3280
01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:35,840
Scruggs has access to that account and
 

3281
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,149
Scruggs has access to that account and
has regularly posted from it. The reason

3282
01:10:38,149 --> 01:10:38,159
has regularly posted from it. The reason
 

3283
01:10:38,159 --> 01:10:39,750
has regularly posted from it. The reason
this is all missed is because the

3284
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:39,760
this is all missed is because the
 

3285
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,910
this is all missed is because the
information Lazy Bedhead has on Brony

3286
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:41,920
information Lazy Bedhead has on Brony
 

3287
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:43,990
information Lazy Bedhead has on Brony
Fandone largely comes from the Gabe

3288
01:10:43,990 --> 01:10:44,000
Fandone largely comes from the Gabe
 

3289
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,390
Fandone largely comes from the Gabe
defense documents. While Lazy Bedhead,

3290
01:10:46,390 --> 01:10:46,400
defense documents. While Lazy Bedhead,
 

3291
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,550
defense documents. While Lazy Bedhead,
to her credit, does condemn this

3292
01:10:48,550 --> 01:10:48,560
to her credit, does condemn this
 

3293
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,950
to her credit, does condemn this
information because Fand is a complete

3294
01:10:50,950 --> 01:10:50,960
information because Fand is a complete
 

3295
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,990
information because Fand is a complete
freak. She does post this updated pinned

3296
01:10:53,990 --> 01:10:54,000
freak. She does post this updated pinned
 

3297
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,709
freak. She does post this updated pinned
comment stating that Fandon has largely

3298
01:10:56,709 --> 01:10:56,719
comment stating that Fandon has largely
 

3299
01:10:56,719 --> 01:10:58,709
comment stating that Fandon has largely
moved on from these opinions they held

3300
01:10:58,709 --> 01:10:58,719
moved on from these opinions they held
 

3301
01:10:58,719 --> 01:11:00,630
moved on from these opinions they held
when they were a minor. Lazy would

3302
01:11:00,630 --> 01:11:00,640
when they were a minor. Lazy would
 

3303
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,310
when they were a minor. Lazy would
explain to me that she posted and pinned

3304
01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:02,320
explain to me that she posted and pinned
 

3305
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:03,669
explain to me that she posted and pinned
this comment due to the fact she was

3306
01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:03,679
this comment due to the fact she was
 

3307
01:11:03,679 --> 01:11:05,590
this comment due to the fact she was
getting push back from Fandone defenders

3308
01:11:05,590 --> 01:11:05,600
getting push back from Fandone defenders
 

3309
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,270
getting push back from Fandone defenders
and she largely just wanted them to shut

3310
01:11:07,270 --> 01:11:07,280
and she largely just wanted them to shut
 

3311
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,990
and she largely just wanted them to shut
the [\h__\h] up. But to be clear, Fandone

3312
01:11:09,990 --> 01:11:10,000
the [\h__\h] up. But to be clear, Fandone
 

3313
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,669
the [\h__\h] up. But to be clear, Fandone
has continued to defend his consumption

3314
01:11:11,669 --> 01:11:11,679
has continued to defend his consumption
 

3315
01:11:11,679 --> 01:11:14,070
has continued to defend his consumption
of pornography depicting underage furry

3316
01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:14,080
of pornography depicting underage furry
 

3317
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:15,990
of pornography depicting underage furry
characters. In March of this year,

3318
01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:16,000
characters. In March of this year,
 

3319
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,750
characters. In March of this year,
Fandone would post an incredibly long

3320
01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:17,760
Fandone would post an incredibly long
 

3321
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,990
Fandone would post an incredibly long
skitso thread about their history with

3322
01:11:19,990 --> 01:11:20,000
skitso thread about their history with
 

3323
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,149
skitso thread about their history with
the community at the end of which he

3324
01:11:22,149 --> 01:11:22,159
the community at the end of which he
 

3325
01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:24,709
the community at the end of which he
includes these comments. If no one is

3326
01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:24,719
includes these comments. If no one is
 

3327
01:11:24,719 --> 01:11:26,870
includes these comments. If no one is
hurt, then it isn't an issue. I can't

3328
01:11:26,870 --> 01:11:26,880
hurt, then it isn't an issue. I can't
 

3329
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,510
hurt, then it isn't an issue. I can't
hurt Noel and it doesn't represent me or

3330
01:11:29,510 --> 01:11:29,520
hurt Noel and it doesn't represent me or
 

3331
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,750
hurt Noel and it doesn't represent me or
how I am with minors. If anything, it

3332
01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:31,760
how I am with minors. If anything, it
 

3333
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,669
how I am with minors. If anything, it
stems from my own situation when I was a

3334
01:11:33,669 --> 01:11:33,679
stems from my own situation when I was a
 

3335
01:11:33,679 --> 01:11:36,709
stems from my own situation when I was a
minor. Psychology is complicated. I know

3336
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:36,719
minor. Psychology is complicated. I know
 

3337
01:11:36,719 --> 01:11:39,030
minor. Psychology is complicated. I know
what's in my brain. I know I have no

3338
01:11:39,030 --> 01:11:39,040
what's in my brain. I know I have no
 

3339
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,669
what's in my brain. I know I have no
attraction to children or animals. Noel

3340
01:11:41,669 --> 01:11:41,679
attraction to children or animals. Noel
 

3341
01:11:41,679 --> 01:11:44,390
attraction to children or animals. Noel
is neither to me in my head. An issue

3342
01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:44,400
is neither to me in my head. An issue
 

3343
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,550
is neither to me in my head. An issue
here is simply that Lazy doesn't use

3344
01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:46,560
here is simply that Lazy doesn't use
 

3345
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,430
here is simply that Lazy doesn't use
Twitter and therefore never caught this.

3346
01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:49,440
Twitter and therefore never caught this.
 

3347
01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:51,430
Twitter and therefore never caught this.
This lack of vetting isn't just me

3348
01:11:51,430 --> 01:11:51,440
This lack of vetting isn't just me
 

3349
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:54,310
This lack of vetting isn't just me
bitching about standards. It has quite

3350
01:11:54,310 --> 01:11:54,320
bitching about standards. It has quite
 

3351
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,510
bitching about standards. It has quite
serious implications for these wider

3352
01:11:56,510 --> 01:11:56,520
serious implications for these wider
 

3353
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,030
serious implications for these wider
stories. Fanote, whether you like it or

3354
01:11:59,030 --> 01:11:59,040
stories. Fanote, whether you like it or
 

3355
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,390
stories. Fanote, whether you like it or
not, is at the center of these

3356
01:12:00,390 --> 01:12:00,400
not, is at the center of these
 

3357
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,790
not, is at the center of these
allegations. His documents are the main

3358
01:12:02,790 --> 01:12:02,800
allegations. His documents are the main
 

3359
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,229
allegations. His documents are the main
sources of them. And when it comes to

3360
01:12:04,229 --> 01:12:04,239
sources of them. And when it comes to
 

3361
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:06,790
sources of them. And when it comes to
Saber Spark, he has been pushing to find

3362
01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:06,800
Saber Spark, he has been pushing to find
 

3363
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,229
Saber Spark, he has been pushing to find
something on Saber Spark once again for

3364
01:12:09,229 --> 01:12:09,239
something on Saber Spark once again for
 

3365
01:12:09,239 --> 01:12:12,070
something on Saber Spark once again for
years. If the allegations against Black

3366
01:12:12,070 --> 01:12:12,080
years. If the allegations against Black
 

3367
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,790
years. If the allegations against Black
Griffin are true, Van's involvement is a

3368
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:14,800
Griffin are true, Van's involvement is a
 

3369
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,630
Griffin are true, Van's involvement is a
major disservice to any victims

3370
01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:16,640
major disservice to any victims
 

3371
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,630
major disservice to any victims
involved. Because now all that is really

3372
01:12:18,630 --> 01:12:18,640
involved. Because now all that is really
 

3373
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,310
involved. Because now all that is really
required to deflect these allegations is

3374
01:12:20,310 --> 01:12:20,320
required to deflect these allegations is
 

3375
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:21,910
required to deflect these allegations is
to point to the crazy [\h__\h] who's

3376
01:12:21,910 --> 01:12:21,920
to point to the crazy [\h__\h] who's
 

3377
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,990
to point to the crazy [\h__\h] who's
been the driving force behind them. Some

3378
01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:24,000
been the driving force behind them. Some
 

3379
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,990
been the driving force behind them. Some
people might say that this position is

3380
01:12:25,990 --> 01:12:26,000
people might say that this position is
 

3381
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,750
people might say that this position is
dismissive. But you have to keep in mind

3382
01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:27,760
dismissive. But you have to keep in mind
 

3383
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,070
dismissive. But you have to keep in mind
in a story like this where there is no

3384
01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:30,080
in a story like this where there is no
 

3385
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,630
in a story like this where there is no
evidence for anything. Your currency is

3386
01:12:33,630 --> 01:12:33,640
evidence for anything. Your currency is
 

3387
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,070
evidence for anything. Your currency is
credibility. The vast bulk of the

3388
01:12:36,070 --> 01:12:36,080
credibility. The vast bulk of the
 

3389
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:37,750
credibility. The vast bulk of the
evidence quote unquote against these

3390
01:12:37,750 --> 01:12:37,760
evidence quote unquote against these
 

3391
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,470
evidence quote unquote against these
people is bollocks. It simply doesn't

3392
01:12:40,470 --> 01:12:40,480
people is bollocks. It simply doesn't
 

3393
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:42,149
people is bollocks. It simply doesn't
hold up to any reasonable level of

3394
01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:42,159
hold up to any reasonable level of
 

3395
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:44,630
hold up to any reasonable level of
scrutiny. All of this is made worse by

3396
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:44,640
scrutiny. All of this is made worse by
 

3397
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,630
scrutiny. All of this is made worse by
the fact that you're not asking me or

3398
01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:46,640
the fact that you're not asking me or
 

3399
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,790
the fact that you're not asking me or
anybody else to trust the victims.

3400
01:12:48,790 --> 01:12:48,800
anybody else to trust the victims.
 

3401
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,470
anybody else to trust the victims.
You're asking us to trust people like

3402
01:12:50,470 --> 01:12:50,480
You're asking us to trust people like
 

3403
01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:53,590
You're asking us to trust people like
Courtney Pete, KP, Brony Fandone, and

3404
01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:53,600
Courtney Pete, KP, Brony Fandone, and
 

3405
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,550
Courtney Pete, KP, Brony Fandone, and
Sophie Scruggs. All of whom exist on a

3406
01:12:56,550 --> 01:12:56,560
Sophie Scruggs. All of whom exist on a
 

3407
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,550
Sophie Scruggs. All of whom exist on a
spectrum somewhere between incredibly

3408
01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:58,560
spectrum somewhere between incredibly
 

3409
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,149
spectrum somewhere between incredibly
[\h__\h] stupid and deeply malicious. In

3410
01:13:02,149 --> 01:13:02,159
[\h__\h] stupid and deeply malicious. In
 

3411
01:13:02,159 --> 01:13:03,830
[\h__\h] stupid and deeply malicious. In
the conclusion of her video, Lazy Bed

3412
01:13:03,830 --> 01:13:03,840
the conclusion of her video, Lazy Bed
 

3413
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,590
the conclusion of her video, Lazy Bed
Head says that she doesn't actually like

3414
01:13:05,590 --> 01:13:05,600
Head says that she doesn't actually like
 

3415
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,669
Head says that she doesn't actually like
making videos like this. Part of the

3416
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:07,679
making videos like this. Part of the
 

3417
01:13:07,679 --> 01:13:09,030
making videos like this. Part of the
reason being that creators are waiting

3418
01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:09,040
reason being that creators are waiting
 

3419
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,110
reason being that creators are waiting
for the next big expose for views and

3420
01:13:11,110 --> 01:13:11,120
for the next big expose for views and
 

3421
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,030
for the next big expose for views and
clicks and likes. And despite

3422
01:13:13,030 --> 01:13:13,040
clicks and likes. And despite
 

3423
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,350
clicks and likes. And despite
everything, I do kind of believe her. I

3424
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:15,360
everything, I do kind of believe her. I
 

3425
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,590
everything, I do kind of believe her. I
don't view Lazy as actually malicious.

3426
01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:17,600
don't view Lazy as actually malicious.
 

3427
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,510
don't view Lazy as actually malicious.
And part of the reason for that is

3428
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:19,520
And part of the reason for that is
 

3429
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,590
And part of the reason for that is
Anthony. Because as he points out the

3430
01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:21,600
Anthony. Because as he points out the
 

3431
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,990
Anthony. Because as he points out the
nuances, I realized what really annoyed

3432
01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:24,000
nuances, I realized what really annoyed
 

3433
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,070
nuances, I realized what really annoyed
me about this video is the fact that she

3434
01:13:26,070 --> 01:13:26,080
me about this video is the fact that she
 

3435
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,750
me about this video is the fact that she
takes the Destiny allegations and the

3436
01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:27,760
takes the Destiny allegations and the
 

3437
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,470
takes the Destiny allegations and the
allegations from another unnamed

3438
01:13:29,470 --> 01:13:29,480
allegations from another unnamed
 

3439
01:13:29,480 --> 01:13:31,750
allegations from another unnamed
13-year-old, claiming that Gabe also

3440
01:13:31,750 --> 01:13:31,760
13-year-old, claiming that Gabe also
 

3441
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,590
13-year-old, claiming that Gabe also
offered to send her a dickpick, again

3442
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:33,600
offered to send her a dickpick, again
 

3443
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,310
offered to send her a dickpick, again
with no evidence for this, and treats

3444
01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:36,320
with no evidence for this, and treats
 

3445
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,870
with no evidence for this, and treats
them as gospel. She says that this is

3446
01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:38,880
them as gospel. She says that this is
 

3447
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,110
them as gospel. She says that this is
evidence that Gabe is a groomer. shows

3448
01:13:41,110 --> 01:13:41,120
evidence that Gabe is a groomer. shows
 

3449
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,990
evidence that Gabe is a groomer. shows
us who he is. I don't think she'd be

3450
01:13:43,990 --> 01:13:44,000
us who he is. I don't think she'd be
 

3451
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,510
us who he is. I don't think she'd be
dumb enough to do that unless she

3452
01:13:45,510 --> 01:13:45,520
dumb enough to do that unless she
 

3453
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,149
dumb enough to do that unless she
genuinely believed that to be the case.

3454
01:13:48,149 --> 01:13:48,159
genuinely believed that to be the case.
 

3455
01:13:48,159 --> 01:13:50,709
genuinely believed that to be the case.
So, for all my criticisms of this video,

3456
01:13:50,709 --> 01:13:50,719
So, for all my criticisms of this video,
 

3457
01:13:50,719 --> 01:13:52,870
So, for all my criticisms of this video,
again, I don't think she's just

3458
01:13:52,870 --> 01:13:52,880
again, I don't think she's just
 

3459
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,390
again, I don't think she's just
maliciously going after these people.

3460
01:13:55,390 --> 01:13:55,400
maliciously going after these people.
 

3461
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,149
maliciously going after these people.
However, that question of malice is a

3462
01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:58,159
However, that question of malice is a
 

3463
01:13:58,159 --> 01:14:00,870
However, that question of malice is a
very interesting one. And while many

3464
01:14:00,870 --> 01:14:00,880
very interesting one. And while many
 

3465
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,590
very interesting one. And while many
people, I think fairly, believe that

3466
01:14:03,590 --> 01:14:03,600
people, I think fairly, believe that
 

3467
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,470
people, I think fairly, believe that
KP's primary motivation comes from her

3468
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:06,480
KP's primary motivation comes from her
 

3469
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:08,470
KP's primary motivation comes from her
petty grudges that she's been clinging

3470
01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:08,480
petty grudges that she's been clinging
 

3471
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:11,110
petty grudges that she's been clinging
on to for over a decade, this feels like

3472
01:14:11,110 --> 01:14:11,120
on to for over a decade, this feels like
 

3473
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,350
on to for over a decade, this feels like
a nice segue onto the other group of

3474
01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:13,360
a nice segue onto the other group of
 

3475
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,590
a nice segue onto the other group of
people who seem to have realized that KP

3476
01:14:15,590 --> 01:14:15,600
people who seem to have realized that KP
 

3477
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,950
people who seem to have realized that KP
is so blinded by her own insane biases

3478
01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:18,960
is so blinded by her own insane biases
 

3479
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,390
is so blinded by her own insane biases
that she presented the perfect vector to

3480
01:14:22,390 --> 01:14:22,400
that she presented the perfect vector to
 

3481
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,350
that she presented the perfect vector to
litigate their own petty

3482
01:14:24,350 --> 01:14:24,360
litigate their own petty
 

3483
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,630
litigate their own petty
grievances. Let's talk about this

3484
01:14:26,630 --> 01:14:26,640
grievances. Let's talk about this
 

3485
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:30,390
grievances. Let's talk about this
elusive Amy kn. When I first introduced

3486
01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:30,400
elusive Amy kn. When I first introduced
 

3487
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,470
elusive Amy kn. When I first introduced
her to you, I said she was just

3488
01:14:32,470 --> 01:14:32,480
her to you, I said she was just
 

3489
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:34,630
her to you, I said she was just
somebody's wife. And while that sounds

3490
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:34,640
somebody's wife. And while that sounds
 

3491
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,070
somebody's wife. And while that sounds
flippant, it's actually a very good

3492
01:14:37,070 --> 01:14:37,080
flippant, it's actually a very good
 

3493
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,830
flippant, it's actually a very good
description because Amy's claim to fame

3494
01:14:39,830 --> 01:14:39,840
description because Amy's claim to fame
 

3495
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,310
description because Amy's claim to fame
is being married to Peteru, the voice of

3496
01:14:42,310 --> 01:14:42,320
is being married to Peteru, the voice of
 

3497
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,070
is being married to Peteru, the voice of
Big

3498
01:14:43,070 --> 01:14:43,080
Big
 

3499
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,430
Big
Macintosh. For those of you who have no

3500
01:14:45,430 --> 01:14:45,440
Macintosh. For those of you who have no
 

3501
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:48,630
Macintosh. For those of you who have no
idea who or what that is, I deeply envy

3502
01:14:48,630 --> 01:14:48,640
idea who or what that is, I deeply envy
 

3503
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,590
idea who or what that is, I deeply envy
you. But he's basically a main secondary

3504
01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:51,600
you. But he's basically a main secondary
 

3505
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,390
you. But he's basically a main secondary
character from MLP. So, if you're

3506
01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:54,400
character from MLP. So, if you're
 

3507
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,470
character from MLP. So, if you're
wondering why Amy scuttled away so

3508
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:56,480
wondering why Amy scuttled away so
 

3509
01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:58,870
wondering why Amy scuttled away so
quickly, it's probably because being

3510
01:14:58,870 --> 01:14:58,880
quickly, it's probably because being
 

3511
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,110
quickly, it's probably because being
involved in leveling unsubstantiated

3512
01:15:01,110 --> 01:15:01,120
involved in leveling unsubstantiated
 

3513
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,510
involved in leveling unsubstantiated
rape allegations against somebody might

3514
01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:03,520
rape allegations against somebody might
 

3515
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,550
rape allegations against somebody might
not be the best look publicly, but Amy

3516
01:15:06,550 --> 01:15:06,560
not be the best look publicly, but Amy
 

3517
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:07,990
not be the best look publicly, but Amy
has known and been involved with this

3518
01:15:07,990 --> 01:15:08,000
has known and been involved with this
 

3519
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,870
has known and been involved with this
group of people for over a decade. And

3520
01:15:10,870 --> 01:15:10,880
group of people for over a decade. And
 

3521
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,470
group of people for over a decade. And
while I'm not quite clear on the

3522
01:15:12,470 --> 01:15:12,480
while I'm not quite clear on the
 

3523
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:14,630
while I'm not quite clear on the
mechanics of how this worked, she was

3524
01:15:14,630 --> 01:15:14,640
mechanics of how this worked, she was
 

3525
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,950
mechanics of how this worked, she was
certainly one of the people handing over

3526
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:16,960
certainly one of the people handing over
 

3527
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,310
certainly one of the people handing over
Emily to KP for this expose. Now, I

3528
01:15:20,310 --> 01:15:20,320
Emily to KP for this expose. Now, I
 

3529
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:21,990
Emily to KP for this expose. Now, I
didn't reach out to Amy personally, but

3530
01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:22,000
didn't reach out to Amy personally, but
 

3531
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,910
didn't reach out to Amy personally, but
Angry Slug did, and I was quite

3532
01:15:23,910 --> 01:15:23,920
Angry Slug did, and I was quite
 

3533
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,910
Angry Slug did, and I was quite
interested in what she had to say, so I

3534
01:15:25,910 --> 01:15:25,920
interested in what she had to say, so I
 

3535
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,149
interested in what she had to say, so I
asked Slug for a copy of those DMs. Now,

3536
01:15:28,149 --> 01:15:28,159
asked Slug for a copy of those DMs. Now,
 

3537
01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:29,590
asked Slug for a copy of those DMs. Now,
there's nothing in here that's

3538
01:15:29,590 --> 01:15:29,600
there's nothing in here that's
 

3539
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,669
there's nothing in here that's
particularly interesting, but it does

3540
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:31,679
particularly interesting, but it does
 

3541
01:15:31,679 --> 01:15:34,149
particularly interesting, but it does
confirm her involvement and the fact

3542
01:15:34,149 --> 01:15:34,159
confirm her involvement and the fact
 

3543
01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:36,950
confirm her involvement and the fact
that she is very much trying to push the

3544
01:15:36,950 --> 01:15:36,960
that she is very much trying to push the
 

3545
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,149
that she is very much trying to push the
blame onto KP. And from the DMs with

3546
01:15:40,149 --> 01:15:40,159
blame onto KP. And from the DMs with
 

3547
01:15:40,159 --> 01:15:42,470
blame onto KP. And from the DMs with
Fandone, it seems very clear that they

3548
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:42,480
Fandone, it seems very clear that they
 

3549
01:15:42,480 --> 01:15:45,350
Fandone, it seems very clear that they
were also very much in contact. You'll

3550
01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:45,360
were also very much in contact. You'll
 

3551
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,070
were also very much in contact. You'll
also see later that Amy and Sophie

3552
01:15:48,070 --> 01:15:48,080
also see later that Amy and Sophie
 

3553
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,350
also see later that Amy and Sophie
Scrugs seem to have a pretty good

3554
01:15:50,350 --> 01:15:50,360
Scrugs seem to have a pretty good
 

3555
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,630
Scrugs seem to have a pretty good
relationship. So, the idea that she was

3556
01:15:52,630 --> 01:15:52,640
relationship. So, the idea that she was
 

3557
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,790
relationship. So, the idea that she was
just a passive bystander concerned for

3558
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:54,800
just a passive bystander concerned for
 

3559
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,550
just a passive bystander concerned for
her friend is absurd. As a final late

3560
01:15:58,550 --> 01:15:58,560
her friend is absurd. As a final late
 

3561
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,270
her friend is absurd. As a final late
edition, right before publication, I was

3562
01:16:01,270 --> 01:16:01,280
edition, right before publication, I was
 

3563
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,270
edition, right before publication, I was
made aware of one other bit of

3564
01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:03,280
made aware of one other bit of
 

3565
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,310
made aware of one other bit of
correspondence with Amy because Mr.

3566
01:16:06,310 --> 01:16:06,320
correspondence with Amy because Mr.
 

3567
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,430
correspondence with Amy because Mr.
enter would also reach out to Amy and

3568
01:16:09,430 --> 01:16:09,440
enter would also reach out to Amy and
 

3569
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:11,430
enter would also reach out to Amy and
she'd give the statement that she found

3570
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:11,440
she'd give the statement that she found
 

3571
01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:14,550
she'd give the statement that she found
out about this on the 25th of March,

3572
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:14,560
out about this on the 25th of March,
 

3573
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,189
out about this on the 25th of March,
which would mean timelinewise Amy was

3574
01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:17,199
which would mean timelinewise Amy was
 

3575
01:16:17,199 --> 01:16:19,750
which would mean timelinewise Amy was
told about this immediately gave the

3576
01:16:19,750 --> 01:16:19,760
told about this immediately gave the
 

3577
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,990
told about this immediately gave the
information to Fandote, who immediately

3578
01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:22,000
information to Fandote, who immediately
 

3579
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,950
information to Fandote, who immediately
passed it on to KP. Now, this is all a

3580
01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:24,960
passed it on to KP. Now, this is all a
 

3581
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,229
passed it on to KP. Now, this is all a
little bit weird for a couple of

3582
01:16:26,229 --> 01:16:26,239
little bit weird for a couple of
 

3583
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:28,950
little bit weird for a couple of
reasons. Firstly, Amy would come out in

3584
01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:28,960
reasons. Firstly, Amy would come out in
 

3585
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:30,870
reasons. Firstly, Amy would come out in
support of the statement from Emmy on

3586
01:16:30,870 --> 01:16:30,880
support of the statement from Emmy on
 

3587
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,950
support of the statement from Emmy on
Twitter, saying that they've been

3588
01:16:32,950 --> 01:16:32,960
Twitter, saying that they've been
 

3589
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,750
Twitter, saying that they've been
friends for over a decade and that she

3590
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:35,760
friends for over a decade and that she
 

3591
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,390
friends for over a decade and that she
was at Canterlot Gardens confirming that

3592
01:16:38,390 --> 01:16:38,400
was at Canterlot Gardens confirming that
 

3593
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,630
was at Canterlot Gardens confirming that
she had seen Emmy and Saber Spark

3594
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:40,640
she had seen Emmy and Saber Spark
 

3595
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,709
she had seen Emmy and Saber Spark
together. The statement of I have

3596
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:42,719
together. The statement of I have
 

3597
01:16:42,719 --> 01:16:44,390
together. The statement of I have
nothing to gain from this. I just want

3598
01:16:44,390 --> 01:16:44,400
nothing to gain from this. I just want
 

3599
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,630
nothing to gain from this. I just want
my friend to be believed is also

3600
01:16:46,630 --> 01:16:46,640
my friend to be believed is also
 

3601
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,790
my friend to be believed is also
complete insanity considering Amy's

3602
01:16:48,790 --> 01:16:48,800
complete insanity considering Amy's
 

3603
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,430
complete insanity considering Amy's
wider involvement in this. Once again,

3604
01:16:51,430 --> 01:16:51,440
wider involvement in this. Once again,
 

3605
01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:53,669
wider involvement in this. Once again,
to say nothing of the validity of

3606
01:16:53,669 --> 01:16:53,679
to say nothing of the validity of
 

3607
01:16:53,679 --> 01:16:55,990
to say nothing of the validity of
Emily's accusations, Amy presents

3608
01:16:55,990 --> 01:16:56,000
Emily's accusations, Amy presents
 

3609
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,390
Emily's accusations, Amy presents
herself like she's not involved and knew

3610
01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:58,400
herself like she's not involved and knew
 

3611
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,790
herself like she's not involved and knew
nothing about this before publication.

3612
01:17:00,790 --> 01:17:00,800
nothing about this before publication.
 

3613
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,669
nothing about this before publication.
Or alternatively, this could also be

3614
01:17:03,669 --> 01:17:03,679
Or alternatively, this could also be
 

3615
01:17:03,679 --> 01:17:05,590
Or alternatively, this could also be
read as though it was a rumor that had

3616
01:17:05,590 --> 01:17:05,600
read as though it was a rumor that had
 

3617
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,750
read as though it was a rumor that had
been going around for years that was

3618
01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:07,760
been going around for years that was
 

3619
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,149
been going around for years that was
finally being outed. And I'm sure some

3620
01:17:10,149 --> 01:17:10,159
finally being outed. And I'm sure some
 

3621
01:17:10,159 --> 01:17:12,310
finally being outed. And I'm sure some
version of the truth exists within all

3622
01:17:12,310 --> 01:17:12,320
version of the truth exists within all
 

3623
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,310
version of the truth exists within all
this obfiscation, but these people are

3624
01:17:14,310 --> 01:17:14,320
this obfiscation, but these people are
 

3625
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,110
this obfiscation, but these people are
just so [\h__\h] manipulative. One thing

3626
01:17:17,110 --> 01:17:17,120
just so [\h__\h] manipulative. One thing
 

3627
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:18,950
just so [\h__\h] manipulative. One thing
about this story which I find pretty

3628
01:17:18,950 --> 01:17:18,960
about this story which I find pretty
 

3629
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,830
about this story which I find pretty
amusing though overall quite frustrating

3630
01:17:21,830 --> 01:17:21,840
amusing though overall quite frustrating
 

3631
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,510
amusing though overall quite frustrating
is that the side that's so concerned

3632
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:23,520
is that the side that's so concerned
 

3633
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,669
is that the side that's so concerned
about transparency have all refused to

3634
01:17:25,669 --> 01:17:25,679
about transparency have all refused to
 

3635
01:17:25,679 --> 01:17:27,669
about transparency have all refused to
speak to anyone the minute things got

3636
01:17:27,669 --> 01:17:27,679
speak to anyone the minute things got
 

3637
01:17:27,679 --> 01:17:30,070
speak to anyone the minute things got
difficult for them. Now this presents a

3638
01:17:30,070 --> 01:17:30,080
difficult for them. Now this presents a
 

3639
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:31,830
difficult for them. Now this presents a
bit of a problem. I don't know people

3640
01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:31,840
bit of a problem. I don't know people
 

3641
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,149
bit of a problem. I don't know people
like Amy. All I've got to go on is

3642
01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:34,159
like Amy. All I've got to go on is
 

3643
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:37,270
like Amy. All I've got to go on is
fragments of information. But to be

3644
01:17:37,270 --> 01:17:37,280
fragments of information. But to be
 

3645
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,270
fragments of information. But to be
clear, just because they won't speak to

3646
01:17:39,270 --> 01:17:39,280
clear, just because they won't speak to
 

3647
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,149
clear, just because they won't speak to
me doesn't mean nobody did. And thanks

3648
01:17:42,149 --> 01:17:42,159
me doesn't mean nobody did. And thanks
 

3649
01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:45,030
me doesn't mean nobody did. And thanks
to the excellent work of Opblock, after

3650
01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:45,040
to the excellent work of Opblock, after
 

3651
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,990
to the excellent work of Opblock, after
his response video, I was put in touch

3652
01:17:47,990 --> 01:17:48,000
his response video, I was put in touch
 

3653
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,790
his response video, I was put in touch
with Saber Spark. Now, that conversation

3654
01:17:50,790 --> 01:17:50,800
with Saber Spark. Now, that conversation
 

3655
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,790
with Saber Spark. Now, that conversation
I had with Saber Spark is unfortunately

3656
01:17:52,790 --> 01:17:52,800
I had with Saber Spark is unfortunately
 

3657
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,310
I had with Saber Spark is unfortunately
off the record. He doesn't feel

3658
01:17:54,310 --> 01:17:54,320
off the record. He doesn't feel
 

3659
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,750
off the record. He doesn't feel
comfortable at the moment coming out and

3660
01:17:55,750 --> 01:17:55,760
comfortable at the moment coming out and
 

3661
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,669
comfortable at the moment coming out and
making random public statements. And

3662
01:17:57,669 --> 01:17:57,679
making random public statements. And
 

3663
01:17:57,679 --> 01:17:59,750
making random public statements. And
I'll be honest, I do respect that

3664
01:17:59,750 --> 01:17:59,760
I'll be honest, I do respect that
 

3665
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,149
I'll be honest, I do respect that
decision. However, I still need to know

3666
01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:02,159
decision. However, I still need to know
 

3667
01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:03,750
decision. However, I still need to know
about these people. And from the other

3668
01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:03,760
about these people. And from the other
 

3669
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,229
about these people. And from the other
side, I accept the criticism of it would

3670
01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:06,239
side, I accept the criticism of it would
 

3671
01:18:06,239 --> 01:18:08,709
side, I accept the criticism of it would
be nice to hear from people. So, please

3672
01:18:08,709 --> 01:18:08,719
be nice to hear from people. So, please
 

3673
01:18:08,719 --> 01:18:11,189
be nice to hear from people. So, please
allow me to solve that problem for you

3674
01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:11,199
allow me to solve that problem for you
 

3675
01:18:11,199 --> 01:18:12,709
allow me to solve that problem for you
because I sat down to have a

3676
01:18:12,709 --> 01:18:12,719
because I sat down to have a
 

3677
01:18:12,719 --> 01:18:14,229
because I sat down to have a
conversation with the voice actress of

3678
01:18:14,229 --> 01:18:14,239
conversation with the voice actress of
 

3679
01:18:14,239 --> 01:18:16,709
conversation with the voice actress of
Sweetie Bell from My Little Pony, the

3680
01:18:16,709 --> 01:18:16,719
Sweetie Bell from My Little Pony, the
 

3681
01:18:16,719 --> 01:18:19,990
Sweetie Bell from My Little Pony, the
wife of Black Griffin, Cla. Let's go.

3682
01:18:19,990 --> 01:18:20,000
wife of Black Griffin, Cla. Let's go.
 

3683
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,630
wife of Black Griffin, Cla. Let's go.
Let's go in levels. Uh, can we start

3684
01:18:22,630 --> 01:18:22,640
Let's go in levels. Uh, can we start
 

3685
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:28,149
Let's go in levels. Uh, can we start
with Amy New? Yeah. Huh. Yeah.

3686
01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:28,159
with Amy New? Yeah. Huh. Yeah.
 

3687
01:18:28,159 --> 01:18:30,470
with Amy New? Yeah. Huh. Yeah.
Uh, can you tell me about Amy new and

3688
01:18:30,470 --> 01:18:30,480
Uh, can you tell me about Amy new and
 

3689
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:33,910
Uh, can you tell me about Amy new and
why she is in why the wife of the Voy

3690
01:18:33,910 --> 01:18:33,920
why she is in why the wife of the Voy
 

3691
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,630
why she is in why the wife of the Voy
actor for Big Macintosh is somehow

3692
01:18:36,630 --> 01:18:36,640
actor for Big Macintosh is somehow
 

3693
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:40,790
actor for Big Macintosh is somehow
involved in attacking your sort of I

3694
01:18:40,790 --> 01:18:40,800
involved in attacking your sort of I
 

3695
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,709
involved in attacking your sort of I
guess circle.

3696
01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:42,719
guess circle.
 

3697
01:18:42,719 --> 01:18:45,350
guess circle.
Um, all right. I will tell you all the

3698
01:18:45,350 --> 01:18:45,360
Um, all right. I will tell you all the
 

3699
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:52,510
Um, all right. I will tell you all the
things that I know about her. Um, I

3700
01:18:52,510 --> 01:18:52,520

 

3701
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:56,310

know I'm like I don't know. I'm hesitant

3702
01:18:56,310 --> 01:18:56,320
know I'm like I don't know. I'm hesitant
 

3703
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,149
know I'm like I don't know. I'm hesitant
to say things, but at the same time, I

3704
01:18:58,149 --> 01:18:58,159
to say things, but at the same time, I
 

3705
01:18:58,159 --> 01:19:00,270
to say things, but at the same time, I
feel like I've been

3706
01:19:00,270 --> 01:19:00,280
feel like I've been
 

3707
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,910
feel like I've been
so polite and nice for so long that I

3708
01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:03,920
so polite and nice for so long that I
 

3709
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:05,270
so polite and nice for so long that I
just I think I don't feel like being

3710
01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:05,280
just I think I don't feel like being
 

3711
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:06,950
just I think I don't feel like being
polite and nice anymore. So, there

3712
01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:06,960
polite and nice anymore. So, there
 

3713
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:08,390
polite and nice anymore. So, there
there's my grain of salt before I say

3714
01:19:08,390 --> 01:19:08,400
there's my grain of salt before I say
 

3715
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,990
there's my grain of salt before I say
what I'm going to say.

3716
01:19:10,990 --> 01:19:11,000
what I'm going to say.
 

3717
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,070
what I'm going to say.
Um, I don't know where the switch was

3718
01:19:14,070 --> 01:19:14,080
Um, I don't know where the switch was
 

3719
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:18,390
Um, I don't know where the switch was
with Amy. Um, I don't know if my own

3720
01:19:18,390 --> 01:19:18,400
with Amy. Um, I don't know if my own
 

3721
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,630
with Amy. Um, I don't know if my own
father has talked to either of them, but

3722
01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:22,640
father has talked to either of them, but
 

3723
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,630
father has talked to either of them, but
I do know that my dad has reached out to

3724
01:19:24,630 --> 01:19:24,640
I do know that my dad has reached out to
 

3725
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,950
I do know that my dad has reached out to
people that I've worked with and warned

3726
01:19:26,950 --> 01:19:26,960
people that I've worked with and warned
 

3727
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:31,910
people that I've worked with and warned
them about me when I had told my parents

3728
01:19:31,910 --> 01:19:31,920
them about me when I had told my parents
 

3729
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,750
them about me when I had told my parents
that, you know, I was I was in a

3730
01:19:33,750 --> 01:19:33,760
that, you know, I was I was in a
 

3731
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,350
that, you know, I was I was in a
relationship um with Gabe. And um this

3732
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:37,360
relationship um with Gabe. And um this
 

3733
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,550
relationship um with Gabe. And um this
is when I was almost 20.

3734
01:19:41,550 --> 01:19:41,560
is when I was almost 20.
 

3735
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:45,750
is when I was almost 20.
Um, I don't know when the swap or switch

3736
01:19:45,750 --> 01:19:45,760
Um, I don't know when the swap or switch
 

3737
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,270
Um, I don't know when the swap or switch
was for Amy. Um, I had met her a few

3738
01:19:49,270 --> 01:19:49,280
was for Amy. Um, I had met her a few
 

3739
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:53,270
was for Amy. Um, I had met her a few
times before I knew she was married

3740
01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:53,280
times before I knew she was married
 

3741
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,430
times before I knew she was married
um to Peter New. I

3742
01:19:56,430 --> 01:19:56,440
um to Peter New. I
 

3743
01:19:56,440 --> 01:20:00,910
um to Peter New. I
think I I can't remember a whole

3744
01:20:00,910 --> 01:20:00,920
think I I can't remember a whole
 

3745
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:06,870
think I I can't remember a whole
lot about her. Um, but I I don't know. I

3746
01:20:06,870 --> 01:20:06,880
lot about her. Um, but I I don't know. I
 

3747
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,950
lot about her. Um, but I I don't know. I
don't know. She's like kind of mixed up

3748
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:08,960
don't know. She's like kind of mixed up
 

3749
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:13,990
don't know. She's like kind of mixed up
in the fan world and she came first as a

3750
01:20:13,990 --> 01:20:14,000
in the fan world and she came first as a
 

3751
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,270
in the fan world and she came first as a
fan from to my knowledge. She was a fan

3752
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:17,280
fan from to my knowledge. She was a fan
 

3753
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,390
fan from to my knowledge. She was a fan
first and then she just kind of started

3754
01:20:20,390 --> 01:20:20,400
first and then she just kind of started
 

3755
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,030
first and then she just kind of started
dating Peter and I was like, "Oh, that's

3756
01:20:23,030 --> 01:20:23,040
dating Peter and I was like, "Oh, that's
 

3757
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,550
dating Peter and I was like, "Oh, that's
interesting."

3758
01:20:24,550 --> 01:20:24,560
interesting."
 

3759
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,070
interesting."
and um

3760
01:20:27,070 --> 01:20:27,080
and um
 

3761
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:31,270
and um
she yeah was kind of like a fan of My

3762
01:20:31,270 --> 01:20:31,280
she yeah was kind of like a fan of My
 

3763
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,990
she yeah was kind of like a fan of My
Little Pony and a fan of Peter and then

3764
01:20:34,990 --> 01:20:35,000
Little Pony and a fan of Peter and then
 

3765
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,750
Little Pony and a fan of Peter and then
started dating and I was like, "Oh,

3766
01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:37,760
started dating and I was like, "Oh,
 

3767
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,830
started dating and I was like, "Oh,
okay." And you know, I didn't really

3768
01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:39,840
okay." And you know, I didn't really
 

3769
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,590
okay." And you know, I didn't really
think much of it at the time. I didn't

3770
01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:41,600
think much of it at the time. I didn't
 

3771
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,790
think much of it at the time. I didn't
really care as an adult looking back on

3772
01:20:44,790 --> 01:20:44,800
really care as an adult looking back on
 

3773
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,110
really care as an adult looking back on
that

3774
01:20:46,110 --> 01:20:46,120
that
 

3775
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,030
that
situation. Oh, I also know that I I'm

3776
01:20:49,030 --> 01:20:49,040
situation. Oh, I also know that I I'm
 

3777
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,990
situation. Oh, I also know that I I'm
pretty sure that Amy has like publicly

3778
01:20:51,990 --> 01:20:52,000
pretty sure that Amy has like publicly
 

3779
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,390
pretty sure that Amy has like publicly
stated before at some point that she was

3780
01:20:54,390 --> 01:20:54,400
stated before at some point that she was
 

3781
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,590
stated before at some point that she was
just like really concerned for me

3782
01:20:57,590 --> 01:20:57,600
just like really concerned for me
 

3783
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:01,750
just like really concerned for me
because she had kind of alluded to I was

3784
01:21:01,750 --> 01:21:01,760
because she had kind of alluded to I was
 

3785
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,470
because she had kind of alluded to I was
a a grooming victim and I didn't know

3786
01:21:04,470 --> 01:21:04,480
a a grooming victim and I didn't know
 

3787
01:21:04,480 --> 01:21:07,510
a a grooming victim and I didn't know
and I was smart and I was, you know, in

3788
01:21:07,510 --> 01:21:07,520
and I was smart and I was, you know, in
 

3789
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,510
and I was smart and I was, you know, in
love and I knew what that was like and I

3790
01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:09,520
love and I knew what that was like and I
 

3791
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,030
love and I knew what that was like and I
just feel really bad for her. And I'm

3792
01:21:11,030 --> 01:21:11,040
just feel really bad for her. And I'm
 

3793
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,750
just feel really bad for her. And I'm
like, why do people freaking keep saying

3794
01:21:13,750 --> 01:21:13,760
like, why do people freaking keep saying
 

3795
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:18,070
like, why do people freaking keep saying
this about me? like I'm some idiot that

3796
01:21:18,070 --> 01:21:18,080
this about me? like I'm some idiot that
 

3797
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,630
this about me? like I'm some idiot that
and this is the thing too like even if I

3798
01:21:20,630 --> 01:21:20,640
and this is the thing too like even if I
 

3799
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,470
and this is the thing too like even if I
can if I get frustrated about it people

3800
01:21:22,470 --> 01:21:22,480
can if I get frustrated about it people
 

3801
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:24,229
can if I get frustrated about it people
are like oh I understand that you're so

3802
01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:24,239
are like oh I understand that you're so
 

3803
01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:27,030
are like oh I understand that you're so
angry like you're a very like you know

3804
01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:27,040
angry like you're a very like you know
 

3805
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:28,630
angry like you're a very like you know
it doesn't mean that you're stupid you

3806
01:21:28,630 --> 01:21:28,640
it doesn't mean that you're stupid you
 

3807
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,470
it doesn't mean that you're stupid you
can be a smart person and get in a

3808
01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:30,480
can be a smart person and get in a
 

3809
01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:32,870
can be a smart person and get in a
situation like that I'm like yeah and I

3810
01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:32,880
situation like that I'm like yeah and I
 

3811
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:34,950
situation like that I'm like yeah and I
freaking know what that's like because

3812
01:21:34,950 --> 01:21:34,960
freaking know what that's like because
 

3813
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,070
freaking know what that's like because
that was my family situation and I hate

3814
01:21:38,070 --> 01:21:38,080
that was my family situation and I hate
 

3815
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:41,350
that was my family situation and I hate
it when people say that to me as if I

3816
01:21:41,350 --> 01:21:41,360
it when people say that to me as if I
 

3817
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,350
it when people say that to me as if I
don't know what that's like and one day

3818
01:21:43,350 --> 01:21:43,360
don't know what that's like and one day
 

3819
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:44,870
don't know what that's like and one day
I'll figure it out one day I'll figure

3820
01:21:44,870 --> 01:21:44,880
I'll figure it out one day I'll figure
 

3821
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,790
I'll figure it out one day I'll figure
out that I've been groomed. And I'm

3822
01:21:46,790 --> 01:21:46,800
out that I've been groomed. And I'm
 

3823
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,189
out that I've been groomed. And I'm
sitting here

3824
01:21:48,189 --> 01:21:48,199
sitting here
 

3825
01:21:48,199 --> 01:21:53,030
sitting here
like, nobody knows that I've basically

3826
01:21:53,030 --> 01:21:53,040
like, nobody knows that I've basically
 

3827
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,750
like, nobody knows that I've basically
already been through this. You know, we

3828
01:21:55,750 --> 01:21:55,760
already been through this. You know, we
 

3829
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,390
already been through this. You know, we
talk about people talk about grooming in

3830
01:21:58,390 --> 01:21:58,400
talk about people talk about grooming in
 

3831
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,709
talk about people talk about grooming in
this nonsexual way, which is so funny

3832
01:22:00,709 --> 01:22:00,719
this nonsexual way, which is so funny
 

3833
01:22:00,719 --> 01:22:02,709
this nonsexual way, which is so funny
cuz I'm like, why the freak would I be

3834
01:22:02,709 --> 01:22:02,719
cuz I'm like, why the freak would I be
 

3835
01:22:02,719 --> 01:22:05,030
cuz I'm like, why the freak would I be
groomed nonsexually into a marriage?

3836
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:05,040
groomed nonsexually into a marriage?
 

3837
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:06,790
groomed nonsexually into a marriage?
What's the marriage for? Shaking hands?

3838
01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:06,800
What's the marriage for? Shaking hands?
 

3839
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:08,229
What's the marriage for? Shaking hands?
Like, what the hell? It just doesn't

3840
01:22:08,229 --> 01:22:08,239
Like, what the hell? It just doesn't
 

3841
01:22:08,239 --> 01:22:11,910
Like, what the hell? It just doesn't
make any sense. But I and I hesitate to

3842
01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:11,920
make any sense. But I and I hesitate to
 

3843
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:13,750
make any sense. But I and I hesitate to
use the word groomed just because I hate

3844
01:22:13,750 --> 01:22:13,760
use the word groomed just because I hate
 

3845
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,030
use the word groomed just because I hate
it so much at this point. But I have had

3846
01:22:17,030 --> 01:22:17,040
it so much at this point. But I have had
 

3847
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,510
it so much at this point. But I have had
a lot of conditioning for other things

3848
01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:19,520
a lot of conditioning for other things
 

3849
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,430
a lot of conditioning for other things
in my life that once I became 18 and

3850
01:22:23,430 --> 01:22:23,440
in my life that once I became 18 and
 

3851
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:25,590
in my life that once I became 18 and
realized and gave myself some authority

3852
01:22:25,590 --> 01:22:25,600
realized and gave myself some authority
 

3853
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,070
realized and gave myself some authority
in my own life, oh, I'm not going to do

3854
01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:28,080
in my own life, oh, I'm not going to do
 

3855
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,229
in my own life, oh, I'm not going to do
this just because this person says so,

3856
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:30,239
this just because this person says so,
 

3857
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:32,470
this just because this person says so,
just because this person is in my family

3858
01:22:32,470 --> 01:22:32,480
just because this person is in my family
 

3859
01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:34,550
just because this person is in my family
and is telling me blah blah blah,

3860
01:22:34,550 --> 01:22:34,560
and is telling me blah blah blah,
 

3861
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,709
and is telling me blah blah blah,
doesn't mean that I have to do that

3862
01:22:36,709 --> 01:22:36,719
doesn't mean that I have to do that
 

3863
01:22:36,719 --> 01:22:38,830
doesn't mean that I have to do that
anymore. And

3864
01:22:38,830 --> 01:22:38,840
anymore. And
 

3865
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:43,629
anymore. And
so anyway, to make a a long story

3866
01:22:43,629 --> 01:22:43,639
so anyway, to make a a long story
 

3867
01:22:43,639 --> 01:22:45,950
so anyway, to make a a long story
short, there

3868
01:22:45,950 --> 01:22:45,960
short, there
 

3869
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,910
short, there
are I think it's really funny that Amy

3870
01:22:49,910 --> 01:22:49,920
are I think it's really funny that Amy
 

3871
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,950
are I think it's really funny that Amy
is somebody who is saying this kind of

3872
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:52,960
is somebody who is saying this kind of
 

3873
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,110
is somebody who is saying this kind of
stuff. She wouldn't know. She wouldn't

3874
01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:55,120
stuff. She wouldn't know. She wouldn't
 

3875
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,510
stuff. She wouldn't know. She wouldn't
know. Started off very I feel bad for

3876
01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:57,520
know. Started off very I feel bad for
 

3877
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,390
know. Started off very I feel bad for
her vibes and then immediately went to

3878
01:23:00,390 --> 01:23:00,400
her vibes and then immediately went to
 

3879
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,270
her vibes and then immediately went to
I'm blocking you. You're a danger. you

3880
01:23:03,270 --> 01:23:03,280
I'm blocking you. You're a danger. you
 

3881
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,510
I'm blocking you. You're a danger. you
know, and I'm paraphrasing here, but

3882
01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:05,520
know, and I'm paraphrasing here, but
 

3883
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,310
know, and I'm paraphrasing here, but
that is the the the vibe that is being

3884
01:23:08,310 --> 01:23:08,320
that is the the the vibe that is being
 

3885
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,189
that is the the the vibe that is being
directed towards me now. And I think

3886
01:23:11,189 --> 01:23:11,199
directed towards me now. And I think
 

3887
01:23:11,199 --> 01:23:13,189
directed towards me now. And I think
that's also really funny considering

3888
01:23:13,189 --> 01:23:13,199
that's also really funny considering
 

3889
01:23:13,199 --> 01:23:15,590
that's also really funny considering
Peter New is somebody who has said

3890
01:23:15,590 --> 01:23:15,600
Peter New is somebody who has said
 

3891
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,070
Peter New is somebody who has said
inappropriate things

3892
01:23:19,070 --> 01:23:19,080
inappropriate things
 

3893
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:24,070
inappropriate things
about girls who are underage. And that

3894
01:23:24,070 --> 01:23:24,080
about girls who are underage. And that
 

3895
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:27,189
about girls who are underage. And that
is just laughable to me. And I feel like

3896
01:23:27,189 --> 01:23:27,199
is just laughable to me. And I feel like
 

3897
01:23:27,199 --> 01:23:29,910
is just laughable to me. And I feel like
every single person who is the most like

3898
01:23:29,910 --> 01:23:29,920
every single person who is the most like
 

3899
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:34,110
every single person who is the most like
loudly outspoken people about this

3900
01:23:34,110 --> 01:23:34,120
loudly outspoken people about this
 

3901
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,550
loudly outspoken people about this
situation are people who've got their

3902
01:23:36,550 --> 01:23:36,560
situation are people who've got their
 

3903
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:40,070
situation are people who've got their
own weird freaking skeletons. And I just

3904
01:23:40,070 --> 01:23:40,080
own weird freaking skeletons. And I just
 

3905
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:41,990
own weird freaking skeletons. And I just
sit here and I'm like, surely people

3906
01:23:41,990 --> 01:23:42,000
sit here and I'm like, surely people
 

3907
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,470
sit here and I'm like, surely people
can't believe this. Surely people have a

3908
01:23:44,470 --> 01:23:44,480
can't believe this. Surely people have a
 

3909
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:46,709
can't believe this. Surely people have a
brain. But apparently not because now

3910
01:23:46,709 --> 01:23:46,719
brain. But apparently not because now
 

3911
01:23:46,719 --> 01:23:48,229
brain. But apparently not because now
we're in the situation that we're in

3912
01:23:48,229 --> 01:23:48,239
we're in the situation that we're in
 

3913
01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:50,870
we're in the situation that we're in
now. And it just it it boggles my mind

3914
01:23:50,870 --> 01:23:50,880
now. And it just it it boggles my mind
 

3915
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,229
now. And it just it it boggles my mind
and it just makes me roll my eyes quite

3916
01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:54,239
and it just makes me roll my eyes quite
 

3917
01:23:54,239 --> 01:23:57,350
and it just makes me roll my eyes quite
frankly. Talking with Clare was pretty

3918
01:23:57,350 --> 01:23:57,360
frankly. Talking with Clare was pretty
 

3919
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,510
frankly. Talking with Clare was pretty
illuminating. I can almost understand

3920
01:23:59,510 --> 01:23:59,520
illuminating. I can almost understand
 

3921
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,350
illuminating. I can almost understand
why no one's been interested in hearing

3922
01:24:01,350 --> 01:24:01,360
why no one's been interested in hearing
 

3923
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,310
why no one's been interested in hearing
her side in all this because it must be

3924
01:24:04,310 --> 01:24:04,320
her side in all this because it must be
 

3925
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,229
her side in all this because it must be
pretty bloody difficult to run a story

3926
01:24:06,229 --> 01:24:06,239
pretty bloody difficult to run a story
 

3927
01:24:06,239 --> 01:24:08,070
pretty bloody difficult to run a story
about somebody being a groomer when

3928
01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:08,080
about somebody being a groomer when
 

3929
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,870
about somebody being a groomer when
their primary victim quote unquote won't

3930
01:24:10,870 --> 01:24:10,880
their primary victim quote unquote won't
 

3931
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:12,189
their primary victim quote unquote won't
go along with your

3932
01:24:12,189 --> 01:24:12,199
go along with your
 

3933
01:24:12,199 --> 01:24:14,390
go along with your
narrative. But when you start picking

3934
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:14,400
narrative. But when you start picking
 

3935
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,310
narrative. But when you start picking
apart the eccentricities of these

3936
01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:16,320
apart the eccentricities of these
 

3937
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,470
apart the eccentricities of these
relationships, it becomes a hell of a

3938
01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:18,480
relationships, it becomes a hell of a
 

3939
01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:20,149
relationships, it becomes a hell of a
lot harder to treat the people leveling

3940
01:24:20,149 --> 01:24:20,159
lot harder to treat the people leveling
 

3941
01:24:20,159 --> 01:24:22,390
lot harder to treat the people leveling
these accusations as just passive

3942
01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:22,400
these accusations as just passive
 

3943
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,110
these accusations as just passive
observers concerned for victims. No

3944
01:24:25,110 --> 01:24:25,120
observers concerned for victims. No
 

3945
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,030
observers concerned for victims. No
wonder so many people want to remain

3946
01:24:27,030 --> 01:24:27,040
wonder so many people want to remain
 

3947
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,189
wonder so many people want to remain
anonymous. They're not just random

3948
01:24:29,189 --> 01:24:29,199
anonymous. They're not just random
 

3949
01:24:29,199 --> 01:24:31,030
anonymous. They're not just random
people from the internet. They're people

3950
01:24:31,030 --> 01:24:31,040
people from the internet. They're people
 

3951
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,550
people from the internet. They're people
with large public profiles in the

3952
01:24:33,550 --> 01:24:33,560
with large public profiles in the
 

3953
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,709
with large public profiles in the
community. I was astonished to find that

3954
01:24:36,709 --> 01:24:36,719
community. I was astonished to find that
 

3955
01:24:36,719 --> 01:24:39,030
community. I was astonished to find that
people had either outright ignored CLA's

3956
01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:39,040
people had either outright ignored CLA's
 

3957
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,270
people had either outright ignored CLA's
public statements on the situation or

3958
01:24:41,270 --> 01:24:41,280
public statements on the situation or
 

3959
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,470
public statements on the situation or
actively attacked her as somehow

3960
01:24:43,470 --> 01:24:43,480
actively attacked her as somehow
 

3961
01:24:43,480 --> 01:24:45,669
actively attacked her as somehow
complicit. This is also the case for

3962
01:24:45,669 --> 01:24:45,679
complicit. This is also the case for
 

3963
01:24:45,679 --> 01:24:47,430
complicit. This is also the case for
Michelle, who played Apple Bloom on the

3964
01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:47,440
Michelle, who played Apple Bloom on the
 

3965
01:24:47,440 --> 01:24:48,870
Michelle, who played Apple Bloom on the
show, whose long-term friendship with

3966
01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:48,880
show, whose long-term friendship with
 

3967
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,030
show, whose long-term friendship with
Gabe is the origin point of these

3968
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:51,040
Gabe is the origin point of these
 

3969
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,750
Gabe is the origin point of these
rumors. And once again, because I can

3970
01:24:53,750 --> 01:24:53,760
rumors. And once again, because I can
 

3971
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:55,990
rumors. And once again, because I can
hear that scratching, I don't know the

3972
01:24:55,990 --> 01:24:56,000
hear that scratching, I don't know the
 

3973
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:57,189
hear that scratching, I don't know the
truth behind the Black Griffin

3974
01:24:57,189 --> 01:24:57,199
truth behind the Black Griffin
 

3975
01:24:57,199 --> 01:24:59,510
truth behind the Black Griffin
allegations, and neither do you. But

3976
01:24:59,510 --> 01:24:59,520
allegations, and neither do you. But
 

3977
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,750
allegations, and neither do you. But
when I said earlier that many people do

3978
01:25:01,750 --> 01:25:01,760
when I said earlier that many people do
 

3979
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,629
when I said earlier that many people do
not care about victims in this story,

3980
01:25:04,629 --> 01:25:04,639
not care about victims in this story,
 

3981
01:25:04,639 --> 01:25:06,750
not care about victims in this story,
this is what I mean. Because

3982
01:25:06,750 --> 01:25:06,760
this is what I mean. Because
 

3983
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,030
this is what I mean. Because
hypothetically, let's say this mob is

3984
01:25:09,030 --> 01:25:09,040
hypothetically, let's say this mob is
 

3985
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,350
hypothetically, let's say this mob is
correct about Black Griffin. That would

3986
01:25:11,350 --> 01:25:11,360
correct about Black Griffin. That would
 

3987
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,830
correct about Black Griffin. That would
mean his two primary victims, quote

3988
01:25:13,830 --> 01:25:13,840
mean his two primary victims, quote
 

3989
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,070
mean his two primary victims, quote
unquote, have been relentlessly attacked

3990
01:25:16,070 --> 01:25:16,080
unquote, have been relentlessly attacked
 

3991
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,390
unquote, have been relentlessly attacked
alongside him. And the reason for this

3992
01:25:18,390 --> 01:25:18,400
alongside him. And the reason for this
 

3993
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,750
alongside him. And the reason for this
is obvious. The people leveling these

3994
01:25:20,750 --> 01:25:20,760
is obvious. The people leveling these
 

3995
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,750
is obvious. The people leveling these
accusations don't care about victims.

3996
01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:23,760
accusations don't care about victims.
 

3997
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,430
accusations don't care about victims.
Their motivations are entirely

3998
01:25:26,430 --> 01:25:26,440
Their motivations are entirely
 

3999
01:25:26,440 --> 01:25:28,629
Their motivations are entirely
self-interested. Which brings us rather

4000
01:25:28,629 --> 01:25:28,639
self-interested. Which brings us rather
 

4001
01:25:28,639 --> 01:25:31,750
self-interested. Which brings us rather
nicely to Sophie Scrugs. Because, as I

4002
01:25:31,750 --> 01:25:31,760
nicely to Sophie Scrugs. Because, as I
 

4003
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,149
nicely to Sophie Scrugs. Because, as I
mentioned before, Brony fandom isn't a

4004
01:25:34,149 --> 01:25:34,159
mentioned before, Brony fandom isn't a
 

4005
01:25:34,159 --> 01:25:37,030
mentioned before, Brony fandom isn't a
one-man band. The other half of this

4006
01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:37,040
one-man band. The other half of this
 

4007
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:38,870
one-man band. The other half of this
little duo has seemingly been pushing

4008
01:25:38,870 --> 01:25:38,880
little duo has seemingly been pushing
 

4009
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,510
little duo has seemingly been pushing
these allegations longer than Bonk has.

4010
01:25:41,510 --> 01:25:41,520
these allegations longer than Bonk has.
 

4011
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,270
these allegations longer than Bonk has.
And in her case, it's almost more

4012
01:25:43,270 --> 01:25:43,280
And in her case, it's almost more
 

4013
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,430
And in her case, it's almost more
bizarre because she's not a random

4014
01:25:45,430 --> 01:25:45,440
bizarre because she's not a random
 

4015
01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:47,510
bizarre because she's not a random
member of this community. She was an

4016
01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:47,520
member of this community. She was an
 

4017
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,510
member of this community. She was an
official artist for the My Little Pony

4018
01:25:49,510 --> 01:25:49,520
official artist for the My Little Pony
 

4019
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,550
official artist for the My Little Pony
comics. Um, my name is Sophie Scruggs.

4020
01:25:52,550 --> 01:25:52,560
comics. Um, my name is Sophie Scruggs.
 

4021
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:56,950
comics. Um, my name is Sophie Scruggs.
That's S O P H I E A S C R U G G-S if

4022
01:25:56,950 --> 01:25:56,960
That's S O P H I E A S C R U G G-S if
 

4023
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:58,149
That's S O P H I E A S C R U G G-S if
you want to look me up on Twitter.

4024
01:25:58,149 --> 01:25:58,159
you want to look me up on Twitter.
 

4025
01:25:58,159 --> 01:26:00,790
you want to look me up on Twitter.
Sophie A. Scrugs. I do know that she

4026
01:26:00,790 --> 01:26:00,800
Sophie A. Scrugs. I do know that she
 

4027
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,229
Sophie A. Scrugs. I do know that she
kind of spearheaded a lot of the

4028
01:26:02,229 --> 01:26:02,239
kind of spearheaded a lot of the
 

4029
01:26:02,239 --> 01:26:06,310
kind of spearheaded a lot of the
allegations towards Gabe. um and worked

4030
01:26:06,310 --> 01:26:06,320
allegations towards Gabe. um and worked
 

4031
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,709
allegations towards Gabe. um and worked
with you know Brony Fandone whatever um

4032
01:26:09,709 --> 01:26:09,719
with you know Brony Fandone whatever um
 

4033
01:26:09,719 --> 01:26:14,390
with you know Brony Fandone whatever um
to kind of you know create this wall of

4034
01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:14,400
to kind of you know create this wall of
 

4035
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,310
to kind of you know create this wall of
uh saying like we're the we're the ones

4036
01:26:16,310 --> 01:26:16,320
uh saying like we're the we're the ones
 

4037
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,390
uh saying like we're the we're the ones
holding you know this together this this

4038
01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:18,400
holding you know this together this this
 

4039
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,149
holding you know this together this this
case and trying to bring the information

4040
01:26:20,149 --> 01:26:20,159
case and trying to bring the information
 

4041
01:26:20,159 --> 01:26:22,550
case and trying to bring the information
to the light and you know she's trying

4042
01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:22,560
to the light and you know she's trying
 

4043
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,629
to the light and you know she's trying
to say like you know we need to do this

4044
01:26:24,629 --> 01:26:24,639
to say like you know we need to do this
 

4045
01:26:24,639 --> 01:26:27,110
to say like you know we need to do this
it's like a crusade um I mean it's even

4046
01:26:27,110 --> 01:26:27,120
it's like a crusade um I mean it's even
 

4047
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:28,950
it's like a crusade um I mean it's even
in her banner or her title for her

4048
01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:28,960
in her banner or her title for her
 

4049
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,790
in her banner or her title for her
Twitter like I believe Destiny you know

4050
01:26:30,790 --> 01:26:30,800
Twitter like I believe Destiny you know
 

4051
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:32,950
Twitter like I believe Destiny you know
she's very much involved even though she

4052
01:26:32,950 --> 01:26:32,960
she's very much involved even though she
 

4053
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,590
she's very much involved even though she
likes to have this idea that she's like,

4054
01:26:35,590 --> 01:26:35,600
likes to have this idea that she's like,
 

4055
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,870
likes to have this idea that she's like,
I'm not involved. You know, my opinion,

4056
01:26:38,870 --> 01:26:38,880
I'm not involved. You know, my opinion,
 

4057
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,110
I'm not involved. You know, my opinion,
me speaking on that is I think it's

4058
01:26:41,110 --> 01:26:41,120
me speaking on that is I think it's
 

4059
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,910
me speaking on that is I think it's
pretty messed up of Sophie to let a

4060
01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:43,920
pretty messed up of Sophie to let a
 

4061
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,070
pretty messed up of Sophie to let a
mentally ill person take the fall for

4062
01:26:46,070 --> 01:26:46,080
mentally ill person take the fall for
 

4063
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,709
mentally ill person take the fall for
her crusade. Sophie has been obsessed

4064
01:26:48,709 --> 01:26:48,719
her crusade. Sophie has been obsessed
 

4065
01:26:48,719 --> 01:26:50,470
her crusade. Sophie has been obsessed
with the Black Griffin story for so

4066
01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:50,480
with the Black Griffin story for so
 

4067
01:26:50,480 --> 01:26:52,070
with the Black Griffin story for so
long, it is actually difficult to find

4068
01:26:52,070 --> 01:26:52,080
long, it is actually difficult to find
 

4069
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,390
long, it is actually difficult to find
an origin point of how this all began.

4070
01:26:54,390 --> 01:26:54,400
an origin point of how this all began.
 

4071
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,390
an origin point of how this all began.
But I have heard a couple of theories.

4072
01:26:56,390 --> 01:26:56,400
But I have heard a couple of theories.
 

4073
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,950
But I have heard a couple of theories.
The first is some nondescript traumatic

4074
01:26:58,950 --> 01:26:58,960
The first is some nondescript traumatic
 

4075
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,030
The first is some nondescript traumatic
event. They also straight up use

4076
01:27:01,030 --> 01:27:01,040
event. They also straight up use
 

4077
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,350
event. They also straight up use
Sophie's trauma and mental illness to

4078
01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:03,360
Sophie's trauma and mental illness to
 

4079
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,510
Sophie's trauma and mental illness to
discredit them. Sophie seems to be

4080
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:05,520
discredit them. Sophie seems to be
 

4081
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,750
discredit them. Sophie seems to be
suffering a lot from her own trauma,

4082
01:27:07,750 --> 01:27:07,760
suffering a lot from her own trauma,
 

4083
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,510
suffering a lot from her own trauma,
which must be incredibly tough to deal

4084
01:27:09,510 --> 01:27:09,520
which must be incredibly tough to deal
 

4085
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,229
which must be incredibly tough to deal
with. But she often spreads

4086
01:27:11,229 --> 01:27:11,239
with. But she often spreads
 

4087
01:27:11,239 --> 01:27:13,669
with. But she often spreads
misinformation, even if unintentional.

4088
01:27:13,669 --> 01:27:13,679
misinformation, even if unintentional.
 

4089
01:27:13,679 --> 01:27:15,510
misinformation, even if unintentional.
And far from how this is being painted

4090
01:27:15,510 --> 01:27:15,520
And far from how this is being painted
 

4091
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,070
And far from how this is being painted
by Lazy, this is Sophie's own

4092
01:27:18,070 --> 01:27:18,080
by Lazy, this is Sophie's own
 

4093
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,950
by Lazy, this is Sophie's own
explanation for her behavior. However,

4094
01:27:20,950 --> 01:27:20,960
explanation for her behavior. However,
 

4095
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,110
explanation for her behavior. However,
if it helps, I actually don't believe

4096
01:27:23,110 --> 01:27:23,120
if it helps, I actually don't believe
 

4097
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,910
if it helps, I actually don't believe
this is true. I think the explanation is

4098
01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:25,920
this is true. I think the explanation is
 

4099
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,790
this is true. I think the explanation is
far more simple. Sophie was massively

4100
01:27:28,790 --> 01:27:28,800
far more simple. Sophie was massively
 

4101
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,270
far more simple. Sophie was massively
jealous of Gabe. And again, that seems

4102
01:27:31,270 --> 01:27:31,280
jealous of Gabe. And again, that seems
 

4103
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,390
jealous of Gabe. And again, that seems
to be shockingly common. Black Griffin

4104
01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:34,400
to be shockingly common. Black Griffin
 

4105
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,390
to be shockingly common. Black Griffin
moved from being a fan of the show to

4106
01:27:36,390 --> 01:27:36,400
moved from being a fan of the show to
 

4107
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,030
moved from being a fan of the show to
working on it. And this crops up again

4108
01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:39,040
working on it. And this crops up again
 

4109
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,830
working on it. And this crops up again
and again. A former con chair told me

4110
01:27:41,830 --> 01:27:41,840
and again. A former con chair told me
 

4111
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,990
and again. A former con chair told me
that the reason why Gabe was always at

4112
01:27:43,990 --> 01:27:44,000
that the reason why Gabe was always at
 

4113
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:46,870
that the reason why Gabe was always at
stuff as a special guest is

4114
01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:46,880
stuff as a special guest is
 

4115
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:48,750
stuff as a special guest is
um if you wanted to

4116
01:27:48,750 --> 01:27:48,760
um if you wanted to
 

4117
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:52,390
um if you wanted to
invite for Apple Bloom, um Mo'Nique

4118
01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:52,400
invite for Apple Bloom, um Mo'Nique
 

4119
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,669
invite for Apple Bloom, um Mo'Nique
would basically require to also invite

4120
01:27:55,669 --> 01:27:55,679
would basically require to also invite
 

4121
01:27:55,679 --> 01:27:57,590
would basically require to also invite
Gabe. they would quote unquote throw him

4122
01:27:57,590 --> 01:27:57,600
Gabe. they would quote unquote throw him
 

4123
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,750
Gabe. they would quote unquote throw him
in for free. See what I mean? Like the

4124
01:27:59,750 --> 01:27:59,760
in for free. See what I mean? Like the
 

4125
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,350
in for free. See what I mean? Like the
mother keeps pushing the two of them

4126
01:28:01,350 --> 01:28:01,360
mother keeps pushing the two of them
 

4127
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,430
mother keeps pushing the two of them
together. Why?

4128
01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:03,440
together. Why?
 

4129
01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:08,149
together. Why?
Yeah. And uh so it basically like they

4130
01:28:08,149 --> 01:28:08,159
Yeah. And uh so it basically like they
 

4131
01:28:08,159 --> 01:28:10,950
Yeah. And uh so it basically like they
would in order to have her, for example,

4132
01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:10,960
would in order to have her, for example,
 

4133
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:12,629
would in order to have her, for example,
if you wanted all of the cutie mark

4134
01:28:12,629 --> 01:28:12,639
if you wanted all of the cutie mark
 

4135
01:28:12,639 --> 01:28:14,310
if you wanted all of the cutie mark
crusaders, you have to have Gabe

4136
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:14,320
crusaders, you have to have Gabe
 

4137
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,110
crusaders, you have to have Gabe
basically.

4138
01:28:16,110 --> 01:28:16,120
basically.
 

4139
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,550
basically.
Um, and that's kind of how he

4140
01:28:18,550 --> 01:28:18,560
Um, and that's kind of how he
 

4141
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,030
Um, and that's kind of how he
ingratiated himself into the guest of

4142
01:28:21,030 --> 01:28:21,040
ingratiated himself into the guest of
 

4143
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,510
ingratiated himself into the guest of
honor spot. Even though he didn't really

4144
01:28:23,510 --> 01:28:23,520
honor spot. Even though he didn't really
 

4145
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:25,590
honor spot. Even though he didn't really
do a whole lot to earn a guest of honor

4146
01:28:25,590 --> 01:28:25,600
do a whole lot to earn a guest of honor
 

4147
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,669
do a whole lot to earn a guest of honor
spot, he did some background vocals on a

4148
01:28:27,669 --> 01:28:27,679
spot, he did some background vocals on a
 

4149
01:28:27,679 --> 01:28:30,709
spot, he did some background vocals on a
few episodes and that's it. And to

4150
01:28:30,709 --> 01:28:30,719
few episodes and that's it. And to
 

4151
01:28:30,719 --> 01:28:33,430
few episodes and that's it. And to
clarify too, um, so how it worked in the

4152
01:28:33,430 --> 01:28:33,440
clarify too, um, so how it worked in the
 

4153
01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:36,790
clarify too, um, so how it worked in the
pony um, uh, convention scene, I guess,

4154
01:28:36,790 --> 01:28:36,800
pony um, uh, convention scene, I guess,
 

4155
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:38,390
pony um, uh, convention scene, I guess,
if you want to call it, is there the

4156
01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:38,400
if you want to call it, is there the
 

4157
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,470
if you want to call it, is there the
guests of honor who were specifically

4158
01:28:40,470 --> 01:28:40,480
guests of honor who were specifically
 

4159
01:28:40,480 --> 01:28:43,990
guests of honor who were specifically
sto so show staff? So like, you know,

4160
01:28:43,990 --> 01:28:44,000
sto so show staff? So like, you know,
 

4161
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,870
sto so show staff? So like, you know,
voice actors, you know, directors, etc.,

4162
01:28:46,870 --> 01:28:46,880
voice actors, you know, directors, etc.,
 

4163
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,110
voice actors, you know, directors, etc.,
etc. And then there'd be people like me

4164
01:28:49,110 --> 01:28:49,120
etc. And then there'd be people like me
 

4165
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,229
etc. And then there'd be people like me
and Sophie and um people that were just

4166
01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:52,239
and Sophie and um people that were just
 

4167
01:28:52,239 --> 01:28:53,830
and Sophie and um people that were just
active in the fandom space that were

4168
01:28:53,830 --> 01:28:53,840
active in the fandom space that were
 

4169
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,590
active in the fandom space that were
called community guests. And Gabe was

4170
01:28:55,590 --> 01:28:55,600
called community guests. And Gabe was
 

4171
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:57,350
called community guests. And Gabe was
usually the only exception to that for

4172
01:28:57,350 --> 01:28:57,360
usually the only exception to that for
 

4173
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:58,870
usually the only exception to that for
whatever reason. And and that was the

4174
01:28:58,870 --> 01:28:58,880
whatever reason. And and that was the
 

4175
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:02,149
whatever reason. And and that was the
reason. Clips like this are mindbending.

4176
01:29:02,149 --> 01:29:02,159
reason. Clips like this are mindbending.
 

4177
01:29:02,159 --> 01:29:04,470
reason. Clips like this are mindbending.
You literally start the conversation by

4178
01:29:04,470 --> 01:29:04,480
You literally start the conversation by
 

4179
01:29:04,480 --> 01:29:06,229
You literally start the conversation by
explaining how he moved to doing

4180
01:29:06,229 --> 01:29:06,239
explaining how he moved to doing
 

4181
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:09,270
explaining how he moved to doing
background vocals on the show, therefore

4182
01:29:09,270 --> 01:29:09,280
background vocals on the show, therefore
 

4183
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,990
background vocals on the show, therefore
meeting the criteria of guest of honor

4184
01:29:11,990 --> 01:29:12,000
meeting the criteria of guest of honor
 

4185
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,310
meeting the criteria of guest of honor
and then lament that he didn't really

4186
01:29:14,310 --> 01:29:14,320
and then lament that he didn't really
 

4187
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,110
and then lament that he didn't really
earn it. And these [\h__\h] people are

4188
01:29:17,110 --> 01:29:17,120
earn it. And these [\h__\h] people are
 

4189
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:18,870
earn it. And these [\h__\h] people are
still bitching about this in current

4190
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:18,880
still bitching about this in current
 

4191
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,830
still bitching about this in current
day. When Momocon heard about KP making

4192
01:29:21,830 --> 01:29:21,840
day. When Momocon heard about KP making
 

4193
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,149
day. When Momocon heard about KP making
the DA Games video, they removed her

4194
01:29:24,149 --> 01:29:24,159
the DA Games video, they removed her
 

4195
01:29:24,159 --> 01:29:27,110
the DA Games video, they removed her
from the guest list. KP would then cry

4196
01:29:27,110 --> 01:29:27,120
from the guest list. KP would then cry
 

4197
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,270
from the guest list. KP would then cry
about this to Bonk, asking him whether

4198
01:29:29,270 --> 01:29:29,280
about this to Bonk, asking him whether
 

4199
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,350
about this to Bonk, asking him whether
he could get people to vouch for her so

4200
01:29:31,350 --> 01:29:31,360
he could get people to vouch for her so
 

4201
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,750
he could get people to vouch for her so
she could get back in. And isn't it

4202
01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:33,760
she could get back in. And isn't it
 

4203
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,270
she could get back in. And isn't it
interesting that all these stories are

4204
01:29:35,270 --> 01:29:35,280
interesting that all these stories are
 

4205
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,709
interesting that all these stories are
unattributable to random former

4206
01:29:37,709 --> 01:29:37,719
unattributable to random former
 

4207
01:29:37,719 --> 01:29:40,629
unattributable to random former
conchairs? It's all somebody told me or

4208
01:29:40,629 --> 01:29:40,639
conchairs? It's all somebody told me or
 

4209
01:29:40,639 --> 01:29:42,950
conchairs? It's all somebody told me or
I heard this once. But realistically,

4210
01:29:42,950 --> 01:29:42,960
I heard this once. But realistically,
 

4211
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,030
I heard this once. But realistically,
that's all it ever can be because people

4212
01:29:45,030 --> 01:29:45,040
that's all it ever can be because people
 

4213
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,510
that's all it ever can be because people
like Sophie and KP weren't really on the

4214
01:29:47,510 --> 01:29:47,520
like Sophie and KP weren't really on the
 

4215
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,310
like Sophie and KP weren't really on the
inside of any of these groups. KP

4216
01:29:50,310 --> 01:29:50,320
inside of any of these groups. KP
 

4217
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:51,990
inside of any of these groups. KP
basically survived off the kindness of

4218
01:29:51,990 --> 01:29:52,000
basically survived off the kindness of
 

4219
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,149
basically survived off the kindness of
Henry's now wife, Casey. And while

4220
01:29:54,149 --> 01:29:54,159
Henry's now wife, Casey. And while
 

4221
01:29:54,159 --> 01:29:57,030
Henry's now wife, Casey. And while
Sophie was seemingly an official comic

4222
01:29:57,030 --> 01:29:57,040
Sophie was seemingly an official comic
 

4223
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,750
Sophie was seemingly an official comic
artist, that's much less impressive than

4224
01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:59,760
artist, that's much less impressive than
 

4225
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,229
artist, that's much less impressive than
it sounds. Sophie was basically treated

4226
01:30:02,229 --> 01:30:02,239
it sounds. Sophie was basically treated
 

4227
01:30:02,239 --> 01:30:04,350
it sounds. Sophie was basically treated
like any other vendor at any of these

4228
01:30:04,350 --> 01:30:04,360
like any other vendor at any of these
 

4229
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:06,709
like any other vendor at any of these
conventions. And that seething

4230
01:30:06,709 --> 01:30:06,719
conventions. And that seething
 

4231
01:30:06,719 --> 01:30:09,030
conventions. And that seething
resentment for that core circle that

4232
01:30:09,030 --> 01:30:09,040
resentment for that core circle that
 

4233
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:10,870
resentment for that core circle that
actually had some relevance to this

4234
01:30:10,870 --> 01:30:10,880
actually had some relevance to this
 

4235
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,270
actually had some relevance to this
community means that Sophie's interest

4236
01:30:13,270 --> 01:30:13,280
community means that Sophie's interest
 

4237
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,990
community means that Sophie's interest
was not just Black Griffin. She was

4238
01:30:15,990 --> 01:30:16,000
was not just Black Griffin. She was
 

4239
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:17,669
was not just Black Griffin. She was
fully aware of the allegations against

4240
01:30:17,669 --> 01:30:17,679
fully aware of the allegations against
 

4241
01:30:17,679 --> 01:30:19,270
fully aware of the allegations against
Sailor Spark and what was going on

4242
01:30:19,270 --> 01:30:19,280
Sailor Spark and what was going on
 

4243
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:23,270
Sailor Spark and what was going on
behind the scenes. KP presented me a TSV

4244
01:30:23,270 --> 01:30:23,280
behind the scenes. KP presented me a TSV
 

4245
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,750
behind the scenes. KP presented me a TSV
file for their conversations. This is

4246
01:30:25,750 --> 01:30:25,760
file for their conversations. This is
 

4247
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,910
file for their conversations. This is
also the format KP used to provide me

4248
01:30:27,910 --> 01:30:27,920
also the format KP used to provide me
 

4249
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,550
also the format KP used to provide me
her conversations with Casey, and Casey

4250
01:30:30,550 --> 01:30:30,560
her conversations with Casey, and Casey
 

4251
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,149
her conversations with Casey, and Casey
has at least confirmed those logs are

4252
01:30:32,149 --> 01:30:32,159
has at least confirmed those logs are
 

4253
01:30:32,159 --> 01:30:34,070
has at least confirmed those logs are
accurate. However, I note this here

4254
01:30:34,070 --> 01:30:34,080
accurate. However, I note this here
 

4255
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:35,510
accurate. However, I note this here
because whenever you're presented with

4256
01:30:35,510 --> 01:30:35,520
because whenever you're presented with
 

4257
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:36,870
because whenever you're presented with
something that could have been edited

4258
01:30:36,870 --> 01:30:36,880
something that could have been edited
 

4259
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,430
something that could have been edited
before it reached you, you should accept

4260
01:30:39,430 --> 01:30:39,440
before it reached you, you should accept
 

4261
01:30:39,440 --> 01:30:42,070
before it reached you, you should accept
that possibility. Before we move on from

4262
01:30:42,070 --> 01:30:42,080
that possibility. Before we move on from
 

4263
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:44,070
that possibility. Before we move on from
Sophie, I want to just highlight one

4264
01:30:44,070 --> 01:30:44,080
Sophie, I want to just highlight one
 

4265
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:46,390
Sophie, I want to just highlight one
section in Lazy's video, but also

4266
01:30:46,390 --> 01:30:46,400
section in Lazy's video, but also
 

4267
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,550
section in Lazy's video, but also
claiming that they associate with people

4268
01:30:48,550 --> 01:30:48,560
claiming that they associate with people
 

4269
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,590
claiming that they associate with people
who defend drawn child sexual abuse

4270
01:30:51,590 --> 01:30:51,600
who defend drawn child sexual abuse
 

4271
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,070
who defend drawn child sexual abuse
material because that accusation of

4272
01:30:54,070 --> 01:30:54,080
material because that accusation of
 

4273
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:57,110
material because that accusation of
association is not random. And I want

4274
01:30:57,110 --> 01:30:57,120
association is not random. And I want
 

4275
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:58,709
association is not random. And I want
you to keep in mind the name Whoop

4276
01:30:58,709 --> 01:30:58,719
you to keep in mind the name Whoop
 

4277
01:30:58,719 --> 01:31:01,590
you to keep in mind the name Whoop
Master for when we get to Fand. But

4278
01:31:01,590 --> 01:31:01,600
Master for when we get to Fand. But
 

4279
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,229
Master for when we get to Fand. But
before that, I mean, I think that moves

4280
01:31:04,229 --> 01:31:04,239
before that, I mean, I think that moves
 

4281
01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:07,350
before that, I mean, I think that moves
us on to sort of Sophie Scrugs and

4282
01:31:07,350 --> 01:31:07,360
us on to sort of Sophie Scrugs and
 

4283
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,229
us on to sort of Sophie Scrugs and
Fandone. But why don't we start with

4284
01:31:10,229 --> 01:31:10,239
Fandone. But why don't we start with
 

4285
01:31:10,239 --> 01:31:14,229
Fandone. But why don't we start with
Scrugs because I'm uh baffled at their

4286
01:31:14,229 --> 01:31:14,239
Scrugs because I'm uh baffled at their
 

4287
01:31:14,239 --> 01:31:17,189
Scrugs because I'm uh baffled at their
involvement, frankly. Um I I don't

4288
01:31:17,189 --> 01:31:17,199
involvement, frankly. Um I I don't
 

4289
01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:19,990
involvement, frankly. Um I I don't
really understand it.

4290
01:31:19,990 --> 01:31:20,000
really understand it.
 

4291
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:23,110
really understand it.
Okay, so here's all that I know about

4292
01:31:23,110 --> 01:31:23,120
Okay, so here's all that I know about
 

4293
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:27,550
Okay, so here's all that I know about
Sophie and my history with her.

4294
01:31:27,550 --> 01:31:27,560
Sophie and my history with her.
 

4295
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:33,070
Sophie and my history with her.
Um I I just these people I don't

4296
01:31:33,070 --> 01:31:33,080
Um I I just these people I don't
 

4297
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:36,149
Um I I just these people I don't
understand. It's like this weird

4298
01:31:36,149 --> 01:31:36,159
understand. It's like this weird
 

4299
01:31:36,159 --> 01:31:37,709
understand. It's like this weird
parasocial

4300
01:31:37,709 --> 01:31:37,719
parasocial
 

4301
01:31:37,719 --> 01:31:41,669
parasocial
behavior that has rapidly moved. It's

4302
01:31:41,669 --> 01:31:41,679
behavior that has rapidly moved. It's
 

4303
01:31:41,679 --> 01:31:43,830
behavior that has rapidly moved. It's
like it's dancing on the borderline of

4304
01:31:43,830 --> 01:31:43,840
like it's dancing on the borderline of
 

4305
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,310
like it's dancing on the borderline of
obsession because the moment somebody is

4306
01:31:46,310 --> 01:31:46,320
obsession because the moment somebody is
 

4307
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,669
obsession because the moment somebody is
like knows a bunch of stuff about you,

4308
01:31:49,669 --> 01:31:49,679
like knows a bunch of stuff about you,
 

4309
01:31:49,679 --> 01:31:52,310
like knows a bunch of stuff about you,
looks up to you and and and I'm not

4310
01:31:52,310 --> 01:31:52,320
looks up to you and and and I'm not
 

4311
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,070
looks up to you and and and I'm not
saying that to be arrogant. I'm saying

4312
01:31:54,070 --> 01:31:54,080
saying that to be arrogant. I'm saying
 

4313
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,030
saying that to be arrogant. I'm saying
that because I've I've witnessed this

4314
01:31:56,030 --> 01:31:56,040
that because I've I've witnessed this
 

4315
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:59,229
that because I've I've witnessed this
firsthand when people treat you

4316
01:31:59,229 --> 01:31:59,239
firsthand when people treat you
 

4317
01:31:59,239 --> 01:32:01,990
firsthand when people treat you
differently because you're a voice actor

4318
01:32:01,990 --> 01:32:02,000
differently because you're a voice actor
 

4319
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,310
differently because you're a voice actor
on a show that literally outside of the

4320
01:32:04,310 --> 01:32:04,320
on a show that literally outside of the
 

4321
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,229
on a show that literally outside of the
hotel the convention is held at, nobody

4322
01:32:06,229 --> 01:32:06,239
hotel the convention is held at, nobody
 

4323
01:32:06,239 --> 01:32:09,350
hotel the convention is held at, nobody
gives a rat's anus about. And it it is

4324
01:32:09,350 --> 01:32:09,360
gives a rat's anus about. And it it is
 

4325
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:13,990
gives a rat's anus about. And it it is
it is so weird to me that and I'm using

4326
01:32:13,990 --> 01:32:14,000
it is so weird to me that and I'm using
 

4327
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:15,830
it is so weird to me that and I'm using
this as a specific example and I

4328
01:32:15,830 --> 01:32:15,840
this as a specific example and I
 

4329
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:17,430
this as a specific example and I
actually had to go back and research

4330
01:32:17,430 --> 01:32:17,440
actually had to go back and research
 

4331
01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:19,030
actually had to go back and research
this because I had forgot about it

4332
01:32:19,030 --> 01:32:19,040
this because I had forgot about it
 

4333
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,470
this because I had forgot about it
because it meant nothing to me. Sorry,

4334
01:32:22,470 --> 01:32:22,480
because it meant nothing to me. Sorry,
 

4335
01:32:22,480 --> 01:32:26,229
because it meant nothing to me. Sorry,
Sophie. I'm not trying to be rude here,

4336
01:32:26,229 --> 01:32:26,239
Sophie. I'm not trying to be rude here,
 

4337
01:32:26,239 --> 01:32:28,629
Sophie. I'm not trying to be rude here,
but I don't remember that I complimented

4338
01:32:28,629 --> 01:32:28,639
but I don't remember that I complimented
 

4339
01:32:28,639 --> 01:32:31,669
but I don't remember that I complimented
your snail once. That was something that

4340
01:32:31,669 --> 01:32:31,679
your snail once. That was something that
 

4341
01:32:31,679 --> 01:32:34,629
your snail once. That was something that
I did in the moment because I was being

4342
01:32:34,629 --> 01:32:34,639
I did in the moment because I was being
 

4343
01:32:34,639 --> 01:32:37,510
I did in the moment because I was being
friendly and nice. And now somehow I'm

4344
01:32:37,510 --> 01:32:37,520
friendly and nice. And now somehow I'm
 

4345
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,550
friendly and nice. And now somehow I'm
getting backstabbed because you decided

4346
01:32:40,550 --> 01:32:40,560
getting backstabbed because you decided
 

4347
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,430
getting backstabbed because you decided
to tweet out to everybody years ago. The

4348
01:32:43,430 --> 01:32:43,440
to tweet out to everybody years ago. The
 

4349
01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:45,350
to tweet out to everybody years ago. The
last time you got frustrated that I was

4350
01:32:45,350 --> 01:32:45,360
last time you got frustrated that I was
 

4351
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,750
last time you got frustrated that I was
in a relationship with Gabe before we

4352
01:32:47,750 --> 01:32:47,760
in a relationship with Gabe before we
 

4353
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:49,350
in a relationship with Gabe before we
were married and we had announced that

4354
01:32:49,350 --> 01:32:49,360
were married and we had announced that
 

4355
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,990
were married and we had announced that
we were dating, you said you were

4356
01:32:51,990 --> 01:32:52,000
we were dating, you said you were
 

4357
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,990
we were dating, you said you were
worried for your dear friend, your close

4358
01:32:54,990 --> 01:32:55,000
worried for your dear friend, your close
 

4359
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:59,110
worried for your dear friend, your close
friend Claire, me. And I'm sitting here

4360
01:32:59,110 --> 01:32:59,120
friend Claire, me. And I'm sitting here
 

4361
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,669
friend Claire, me. And I'm sitting here
going, "Who the hell are you? Have I

4362
01:33:01,669 --> 01:33:01,679
going, "Who the hell are you? Have I
 

4363
01:33:01,679 --> 01:33:04,070
going, "Who the hell are you? Have I
even met you before?" Like, what the

4364
01:33:04,070 --> 01:33:04,080
even met you before?" Like, what the
 

4365
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,709
even met you before?" Like, what the
freak? Then I have to go back and I find

4366
01:33:06,709 --> 01:33:06,719
freak? Then I have to go back and I find
 

4367
01:33:06,719 --> 01:33:11,189
freak? Then I have to go back and I find
out. Oh. Oh, thank God. I actually did

4368
01:33:11,189 --> 01:33:11,199
out. Oh. Oh, thank God. I actually did
 

4369
01:33:11,199 --> 01:33:13,430
out. Oh. Oh, thank God. I actually did
meet her. Okay, so she's not, you know,

4370
01:33:13,430 --> 01:33:13,440
meet her. Okay, so she's not, you know,
 

4371
01:33:13,440 --> 01:33:15,669
meet her. Okay, so she's not, you know,
totally crazy. But then I keep reading

4372
01:33:15,669 --> 01:33:15,679
totally crazy. But then I keep reading
 

4373
01:33:15,679 --> 01:33:17,830
totally crazy. But then I keep reading
this stuff and I'm like, "Oh my gosh,

4374
01:33:17,830 --> 01:33:17,840
this stuff and I'm like, "Oh my gosh,
 

4375
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:19,669
this stuff and I'm like, "Oh my gosh,
this is literally it. I complimented

4376
01:33:19,669 --> 01:33:19,679
this is literally it. I complimented
 

4377
01:33:19,679 --> 01:33:22,149
this is literally it. I complimented
your snail one time and I think I might

4378
01:33:22,149 --> 01:33:22,159
your snail one time and I think I might
 

4379
01:33:22,159 --> 01:33:25,510
your snail one time and I think I might
have DM'd you about a bag that I saw at

4380
01:33:25,510 --> 01:33:25,520
have DM'd you about a bag that I saw at
 

4381
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,390
have DM'd you about a bag that I saw at
a convention and you were at the

4382
01:33:28,390 --> 01:33:28,400
a convention and you were at the
 

4383
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:30,149
a convention and you were at the
convention and you you know you had and

4384
01:33:30,149 --> 01:33:30,159
convention and you you know you had and
 

4385
01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:31,350
convention and you you know you had and
I walked through the vendor hall and I

4386
01:33:31,350 --> 01:33:31,360
I walked through the vendor hall and I
 

4387
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:32,390
I walked through the vendor hall and I
was like, "Wow, you have really pretty

4388
01:33:32,390 --> 01:33:32,400
was like, "Wow, you have really pretty
 

4389
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:33,910
was like, "Wow, you have really pretty
bags." Cuz I one of them had my

4390
01:33:33,910 --> 01:33:33,920
bags." Cuz I one of them had my
 

4391
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:35,030
bags." Cuz I one of them had my
character on it and I was like, "That's

4392
01:33:35,030 --> 01:33:35,040
character on it and I was like, "That's
 

4393
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:36,390
character on it and I was like, "That's
so cool. I think I might have taken a

4394
01:33:36,390 --> 01:33:36,400
so cool. I think I might have taken a
 

4395
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:37,910
so cool. I think I might have taken a
picture of it." And then I was like,

4396
01:33:37,910 --> 01:33:37,920
picture of it." And then I was like,
 

4397
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:39,990
picture of it." And then I was like,
"Hey, like you know, how do you sell

4398
01:33:39,990 --> 01:33:40,000
"Hey, like you know, how do you sell
 

4399
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:41,430
"Hey, like you know, how do you sell
your bag?" I think I DM'd her of like,

4400
01:33:41,430 --> 01:33:41,440
your bag?" I think I DM'd her of like,
 

4401
01:33:41,440 --> 01:33:42,950
your bag?" I think I DM'd her of like,
"Hey, how do you sell your bags?" Like,

4402
01:33:42,950 --> 01:33:42,960
"Hey, how do you sell your bags?" Like,
 

4403
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:44,709
"Hey, how do you sell your bags?" Like,
I might have wanted to retweet that or

4404
01:33:44,709 --> 01:33:44,719
I might have wanted to retweet that or
 

4405
01:33:44,719 --> 01:33:46,750
I might have wanted to retweet that or
promote that at some point,

4406
01:33:46,750 --> 01:33:46,760
promote that at some point,
 

4407
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:50,030
promote that at some point,
right? And I and I find out that this

4408
01:33:50,030 --> 01:33:50,040
right? And I and I find out that this
 

4409
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:53,350
right? And I and I find out that this
person is, first of all, has also been

4410
01:33:53,350 --> 01:33:53,360
person is, first of all, has also been
 

4411
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,669
person is, first of all, has also been
kind of a a gay beher for a while, like

4412
01:33:55,669 --> 01:33:55,679
kind of a a gay beher for a while, like
 

4413
01:33:55,679 --> 01:33:57,430
kind of a a gay beher for a while, like
prior to me being involved in this

4414
01:33:57,430 --> 01:33:57,440
prior to me being involved in this
 

4415
01:33:57,440 --> 01:34:00,990
prior to me being involved in this
situation. Had had one

4416
01:34:00,990 --> 01:34:01,000
situation. Had had one
 

4417
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:04,390
situation. Had had one
person one person tell her one thing

4418
01:34:04,390 --> 01:34:04,400
person one person tell her one thing
 

4419
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,790
person one person tell her one thing
that was complete hearsay, because this

4420
01:34:06,790 --> 01:34:06,800
that was complete hearsay, because this
 

4421
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,110
that was complete hearsay, because this
went around at conventions a lot. People

4422
01:34:09,110 --> 01:34:09,120
went around at conventions a lot. People
 

4423
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,990
went around at conventions a lot. People
were really, I think, pissed that Gabe,

4424
01:34:11,990 --> 01:34:12,000
were really, I think, pissed that Gabe,
 

4425
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,310
were really, I think, pissed that Gabe,
you know, had had found success quite

4426
01:34:14,310 --> 01:34:14,320
you know, had had found success quite
 

4427
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,229
you know, had had found success quite
honestly. I think that's what it was.

4428
01:34:16,229 --> 01:34:16,239
honestly. I think that's what it was.
 

4429
01:34:16,239 --> 01:34:18,510
honestly. I think that's what it was.
And there was this

4430
01:34:18,510 --> 01:34:18,520
And there was this
 

4431
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:23,229
And there was this
bubbling underlying level of of jealousy

4432
01:34:23,229 --> 01:34:23,239
bubbling underlying level of of jealousy
 

4433
01:34:23,239 --> 01:34:26,149
bubbling underlying level of of jealousy
basically that had kind of started

4434
01:34:26,149 --> 01:34:26,159
basically that had kind of started
 

4435
01:34:26,159 --> 01:34:28,790
basically that had kind of started
surfacing the more popular that Gabe had

4436
01:34:28,790 --> 01:34:28,800
surfacing the more popular that Gabe had
 

4437
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:33,189
surfacing the more popular that Gabe had
got within the fandom. And I think now

4438
01:34:33,189 --> 01:34:33,199
got within the fandom. And I think now
 

4439
01:34:33,199 --> 01:34:35,669
got within the fandom. And I think now
because and and Saber Spark is another

4440
01:34:35,669 --> 01:34:35,679
because and and Saber Spark is another
 

4441
01:34:35,679 --> 01:34:37,990
because and and Saber Spark is another
one of those people who are ending up

4442
01:34:37,990 --> 01:34:38,000
one of those people who are ending up
 

4443
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:39,070
one of those people who are ending up
finding

4444
01:34:39,070 --> 01:34:39,080
finding
 

4445
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:42,870
finding
success further than outside of the pony

4446
01:34:42,870 --> 01:34:42,880
success further than outside of the pony
 

4447
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:44,950
success further than outside of the pony
fandom, which nobody should freaking

4448
01:34:44,950 --> 01:34:44,960
fandom, which nobody should freaking
 

4449
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,550
fandom, which nobody should freaking
care about anymore, by the way. It's

4450
01:34:47,550 --> 01:34:47,560
care about anymore, by the way. It's
 

4451
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,149
care about anymore, by the way. It's
over. They're finding success. They're

4452
01:34:50,149 --> 01:34:50,159
over. They're finding success. They're
 

4453
01:34:50,159 --> 01:34:51,350
over. They're finding success. They're
moving on in their lives. They're

4454
01:34:51,350 --> 01:34:51,360
moving on in their lives. They're
 

4455
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:52,390
moving on in their lives. They're
figuring out what they want to do with

4456
01:34:52,390 --> 01:34:52,400
figuring out what they want to do with
 

4457
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:53,830
figuring out what they want to do with
their careers. How am I going to pivot?

4458
01:34:53,830 --> 01:34:53,840
their careers. How am I going to pivot?
 

4459
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:55,270
their careers. How am I going to pivot?
How am I going to, you know, create

4460
01:34:55,270 --> 01:34:55,280
How am I going to, you know, create
 

4461
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:56,629
How am I going to, you know, create
contact? What is what is it going to

4462
01:34:56,629 --> 01:34:56,639
contact? What is what is it going to
 

4463
01:34:56,639 --> 01:34:58,229
contact? What is what is it going to
look like now?

4464
01:34:58,229 --> 01:34:58,239
look like now?
 

4465
01:34:58,239 --> 01:34:59,830
look like now?
And as they do that and they find

4466
01:34:59,830 --> 01:34:59,840
And as they do that and they find
 

4467
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:03,669
And as they do that and they find
success, these freaking bronies, and I

4468
01:35:03,669 --> 01:35:03,679
success, these freaking bronies, and I
 

4469
01:35:03,679 --> 01:35:05,430
success, these freaking bronies, and I
hate to use that as an umbrella term

4470
01:35:05,430 --> 01:35:05,440
hate to use that as an umbrella term
 

4471
01:35:05,440 --> 01:35:06,950
hate to use that as an umbrella term
because I know that there are plenty of

4472
01:35:06,950 --> 01:35:06,960
because I know that there are plenty of
 

4473
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:08,550
because I know that there are plenty of
bronies who are out there that are very

4474
01:35:08,550 --> 01:35:08,560
bronies who are out there that are very
 

4475
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,110
bronies who are out there that are very
cool and very sweet, very nerdy, nice

4476
01:35:11,110 --> 01:35:11,120
cool and very sweet, very nerdy, nice
 

4477
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,830
cool and very sweet, very nerdy, nice
people who just, you know, want to have

4478
01:35:13,830 --> 01:35:13,840
people who just, you know, want to have
 

4479
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:15,830
people who just, you know, want to have
a community and want to make friends,

4480
01:35:15,830 --> 01:35:15,840
a community and want to make friends,
 

4481
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,990
a community and want to make friends,
but there there's also like very

4482
01:35:18,990 --> 01:35:19,000
but there there's also like very
 

4483
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,270
but there there's also like very
clearly, and I don't think this was

4484
01:35:21,270 --> 01:35:21,280
clearly, and I don't think this was
 

4485
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:22,950
clearly, and I don't think this was
always there, by the way. I think that

4486
01:35:22,950 --> 01:35:22,960
always there, by the way. I think that
 

4487
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:26,070
always there, by the way. I think that
it developed over the years this like

4488
01:35:26,070 --> 01:35:26,080
it developed over the years this like
 

4489
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,950
it developed over the years this like
weird like sexual part of the fandom,

4490
01:35:28,950 --> 01:35:28,960
weird like sexual part of the fandom,
 

4491
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:30,950
weird like sexual part of the fandom,
but before that it was just like it was

4492
01:35:30,950 --> 01:35:30,960
but before that it was just like it was
 

4493
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,030
but before that it was just like it was
memes and like, oh, we shouldn't be

4494
01:35:33,030 --> 01:35:33,040
memes and like, oh, we shouldn't be
 

4495
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:34,390
memes and like, oh, we shouldn't be
watching this show cuz it's like for

4496
01:35:34,390 --> 01:35:34,400
watching this show cuz it's like for
 

4497
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:35,750
watching this show cuz it's like for
little girls. Haha, that's kind of

4498
01:35:35,750 --> 01:35:35,760
little girls. Haha, that's kind of
 

4499
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:37,510
little girls. Haha, that's kind of
funny. And that's how a lot of these

4500
01:35:37,510 --> 01:35:37,520
funny. And that's how a lot of these
 

4501
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:39,590
funny. And that's how a lot of these
people fell into it. That's how Aber

4502
01:35:39,590 --> 01:35:39,600
people fell into it. That's how Aber
 

4503
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,430
people fell into it. That's how Aber
fell into it. That's how Gabe fell into

4504
01:35:41,430 --> 01:35:41,440
fell into it. That's how Gabe fell into
 

4505
01:35:41,440 --> 01:35:43,669
fell into it. That's how Gabe fell into
it. That's how Jeff fell into it. Like

4506
01:35:43,669 --> 01:35:43,679
it. That's how Jeff fell into it. Like
 

4507
01:35:43,679 --> 01:35:47,030
it. That's how Jeff fell into it. Like
all these people, that's how it started.

4508
01:35:47,030 --> 01:35:47,040
all these people, that's how it started.
 

4509
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:49,189
all these people, that's how it started.
And then they got a little bit popular

4510
01:35:49,189 --> 01:35:49,199
And then they got a little bit popular
 

4511
01:35:49,199 --> 01:35:50,870
And then they got a little bit popular
cuz they had, you know, content that

4512
01:35:50,870 --> 01:35:50,880
cuz they had, you know, content that
 

4513
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:52,149
cuz they had, you know, content that
they were making that people really

4514
01:35:52,149 --> 01:35:52,159
they were making that people really
 

4515
01:35:52,159 --> 01:35:55,189
they were making that people really
liked. And then they moved on. And

4516
01:35:55,189 --> 01:35:55,199
liked. And then they moved on. And
 

4517
01:35:55,199 --> 01:35:58,390
liked. And then they moved on. And
people are somehow so freaking pissed.

4518
01:35:58,390 --> 01:35:58,400
people are somehow so freaking pissed.
 

4519
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,350
people are somehow so freaking pissed.
And Sophie being one of these people who

4520
01:36:01,350 --> 01:36:01,360
And Sophie being one of these people who
 

4521
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:02,950
And Sophie being one of these people who
keeps saying things, by the way, make up

4522
01:36:02,950 --> 01:36:02,960
keeps saying things, by the way, make up
 

4523
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,510
keeps saying things, by the way, make up
your freaking mind. Sophie, is Gabriel

4524
01:36:05,510 --> 01:36:05,520
your freaking mind. Sophie, is Gabriel
 

4525
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,149
your freaking mind. Sophie, is Gabriel
successful outside of the pony fandom or

4526
01:36:08,149 --> 01:36:08,159
successful outside of the pony fandom or
 

4527
01:36:08,159 --> 01:36:10,149
successful outside of the pony fandom or
has he reached his peak already? Because

4528
01:36:10,149 --> 01:36:10,159
has he reached his peak already? Because
 

4529
01:36:10,159 --> 01:36:12,149
has he reached his peak already? Because
you've said both. And you can't just

4530
01:36:12,149 --> 01:36:12,159
you've said both. And you can't just
 

4531
01:36:12,159 --> 01:36:13,830
you've said both. And you can't just
pick and choose when you want to use

4532
01:36:13,830 --> 01:36:13,840
pick and choose when you want to use
 

4533
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,430
pick and choose when you want to use
that as a as a punching bag for some I

4534
01:36:17,430 --> 01:36:17,440
that as a as a punching bag for some I
 

4535
01:36:17,440 --> 01:36:18,870
that as a as a punching bag for some I
don't know the end of some point you're

4536
01:36:18,870 --> 01:36:18,880
don't know the end of some point you're
 

4537
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:20,790
don't know the end of some point you're
trying to make. It doesn't make any

4538
01:36:20,790 --> 01:36:20,800
trying to make. It doesn't make any
 

4539
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:23,669
trying to make. It doesn't make any
sense. He's either successful or he's a

4540
01:36:23,669 --> 01:36:23,679
sense. He's either successful or he's a
 

4541
01:36:23,679 --> 01:36:25,910
sense. He's either successful or he's a
hasb been. Which one is it? Come back to

4542
01:36:25,910 --> 01:36:25,920
hasb been. Which one is it? Come back to
 

4543
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:27,669
hasb been. Which one is it? Come back to
me and freaking figure it out. But

4544
01:36:27,669 --> 01:36:27,679
me and freaking figure it out. But
 

4545
01:36:27,679 --> 01:36:29,990
me and freaking figure it out. But
anyway, I've learned my lesson. I'm not

4546
01:36:29,990 --> 01:36:30,000
anyway, I've learned my lesson. I'm not
 

4547
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:31,510
anyway, I've learned my lesson. I'm not
going to compliment people on their

4548
01:36:31,510 --> 01:36:31,520
going to compliment people on their
 

4549
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,310
going to compliment people on their
snails anymore for fear that seven years

4550
01:36:34,310 --> 01:36:34,320
snails anymore for fear that seven years
 

4551
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,030
snails anymore for fear that seven years
down the road when I become an adult

4552
01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:37,040
down the road when I become an adult
 

4553
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,590
down the road when I become an adult
that they're going to attack me after

4554
01:36:39,590 --> 01:36:39,600
that they're going to attack me after
 

4555
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:41,590
that they're going to attack me after
I've stood up for myself and said, "Hey,

4556
01:36:41,590 --> 01:36:41,600
I've stood up for myself and said, "Hey,
 

4557
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,350
I've stood up for myself and said, "Hey,
what you're saying is not true about me.

4558
01:36:43,350 --> 01:36:43,360
what you're saying is not true about me.
 

4559
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:45,109
what you're saying is not true about me.
And by the way, I'm not a close friend

4560
01:36:45,109 --> 01:36:45,119
And by the way, I'm not a close friend
 

4561
01:36:45,119 --> 01:36:48,149
And by the way, I'm not a close friend
of yours. I don't know who you are."

4562
01:36:48,149 --> 01:36:48,159
of yours. I don't know who you are."
 

4563
01:36:48,159 --> 01:36:49,910
of yours. I don't know who you are."
About an hour and a half ago, I said to

4564
01:36:49,910 --> 01:36:49,920
About an hour and a half ago, I said to
 

4565
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:51,350
About an hour and a half ago, I said to
you that I didn't want to originally

4566
01:36:51,350 --> 01:36:51,360
you that I didn't want to originally
 

4567
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:52,790
you that I didn't want to originally
look at this story because I was aware

4568
01:36:52,790 --> 01:36:52,800
look at this story because I was aware
 

4569
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,149
look at this story because I was aware
of its connection to the wider Black

4570
01:36:54,149 --> 01:36:54,159
of its connection to the wider Black
 

4571
01:36:54,159 --> 01:36:56,229
of its connection to the wider Black
Griffin allegations. And over the past

4572
01:36:56,229 --> 01:36:56,239
Griffin allegations. And over the past
 

4573
01:36:56,239 --> 01:36:57,830
Griffin allegations. And over the past
week or so of looking at this, I

4574
01:36:57,830 --> 01:36:57,840
week or so of looking at this, I
 

4575
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,910
week or so of looking at this, I
realized that I was wrong. This isn't

4576
01:36:59,910 --> 01:36:59,920
realized that I was wrong. This isn't
 

4577
01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:01,590
realized that I was wrong. This isn't
just connected to the Black Griffin

4578
01:37:01,590 --> 01:37:01,600
just connected to the Black Griffin
 

4579
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,990
just connected to the Black Griffin
allegations. This is the Black Griffin

4580
01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:04,000
allegations. This is the Black Griffin
 

4581
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:05,350
allegations. This is the Black Griffin
allegations. It's just the next

4582
01:37:05,350 --> 01:37:05,360
allegations. It's just the next
 

4583
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,510
allegations. It's just the next
iteration of it because the people going

4584
01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:07,520
iteration of it because the people going
 

4585
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:09,990
iteration of it because the people going
after Saber Spark right now are doing so

4586
01:37:09,990 --> 01:37:10,000
after Saber Spark right now are doing so
 

4587
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,229
after Saber Spark right now are doing so
purely because he is friends with Black

4588
01:37:12,229 --> 01:37:12,239
purely because he is friends with Black
 

4589
01:37:12,239 --> 01:37:14,390
purely because he is friends with Black
Griffin. And their motivation isn't

4590
01:37:14,390 --> 01:37:14,400
Griffin. And their motivation isn't
 

4591
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:16,229
Griffin. And their motivation isn't
whether Saber Spark is innocent or

4592
01:37:16,229 --> 01:37:16,239
whether Saber Spark is innocent or
 

4593
01:37:16,239 --> 01:37:18,310
whether Saber Spark is innocent or
guilty. Their motivation is finding

4594
01:37:18,310 --> 01:37:18,320
guilty. Their motivation is finding
 

4595
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:21,109
guilty. Their motivation is finding
anything they can to stab into any

4596
01:37:21,109 --> 01:37:21,119
anything they can to stab into any
 

4597
01:37:21,119 --> 01:37:23,109
anything they can to stab into any
member of this group in their endless

4598
01:37:23,109 --> 01:37:23,119
member of this group in their endless
 

4599
01:37:23,119 --> 01:37:25,030
member of this group in their endless
crusade against them. If I'm not

4600
01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:25,040
crusade against them. If I'm not
 

4601
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:30,390
crusade against them. If I'm not
mistaken, she did come to you, right?

4602
01:37:30,390 --> 01:37:30,400

 

4603
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:33,350

Brony Fand dot was aware of her because

4604
01:37:33,350 --> 01:37:33,360
Brony Fand dot was aware of her because
 

4605
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:37,430
Brony Fand dot was aware of her because
Amy had told her about him or told Yeah.

4606
01:37:37,430 --> 01:37:37,440
Amy had told her about him or told Yeah.
 

4607
01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:39,669
Amy had told her about him or told Yeah.
Um him but I'm saying I'm saying that

4608
01:37:39,669 --> 01:37:39,679
Um him but I'm saying I'm saying that
 

4609
01:37:39,679 --> 01:37:41,669
Um him but I'm saying I'm saying that
like that person came to you though. You

4610
01:37:41,669 --> 01:37:41,679
like that person came to you though. You
 

4611
01:37:41,679 --> 01:37:42,870
like that person came to you though. You
didn't seek them out. It was the other

4612
01:37:42,870 --> 01:37:42,880
didn't seek them out. It was the other
 

4613
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:46,470
didn't seek them out. It was the other
way around. Yeah. She used Amy. Yeah.

4614
01:37:46,470 --> 01:37:46,480
way around. Yeah. She used Amy. Yeah.
 

4615
01:37:46,480 --> 01:37:49,109
way around. Yeah. She used Amy. Yeah.
Okay. So that tells me she was aware

4616
01:37:49,109 --> 01:37:49,119
Okay. So that tells me she was aware
 

4617
01:37:49,119 --> 01:37:50,550
Okay. So that tells me she was aware
enough to know about your biases and

4618
01:37:50,550 --> 01:37:50,560
enough to know about your biases and
 

4619
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:51,990
enough to know about your biases and
save her spark and just wanted to

4620
01:37:51,990 --> 01:37:52,000
save her spark and just wanted to
 

4621
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,629
save her spark and just wanted to
utilize that. Brony Fand is an absolute

4622
01:37:54,629 --> 01:37:54,639
utilize that. Brony Fand is an absolute
 

4623
01:37:54,639 --> 01:37:56,470
utilize that. Brony Fand is an absolute
freak and I imagine that is painfully

4624
01:37:56,470 --> 01:37:56,480
freak and I imagine that is painfully
 

4625
01:37:56,480 --> 01:37:58,149
freak and I imagine that is painfully
obvious to anyone with even a passing

4626
01:37:58,149 --> 01:37:58,159
obvious to anyone with even a passing
 

4627
01:37:58,159 --> 01:37:59,669
obvious to anyone with even a passing
knowledge of this drama. But don't

4628
01:37:59,669 --> 01:37:59,679
knowledge of this drama. But don't
 

4629
01:37:59,679 --> 01:38:02,790
knowledge of this drama. But don't
worry, the well runs deep with this one.

4630
01:38:02,790 --> 01:38:02,800
worry, the well runs deep with this one.
 

4631
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,030
worry, the well runs deep with this one.
Their history in this community is

4632
01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:05,040
Their history in this community is
 

4633
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:06,709
Their history in this community is
pretty bizarre. They actually started

4634
01:38:06,709 --> 01:38:06,719
pretty bizarre. They actually started
 

4635
01:38:06,719 --> 01:38:08,790
pretty bizarre. They actually started
off running a role-play account of all

4636
01:38:08,790 --> 01:38:08,800
off running a role-play account of all
 

4637
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,109
off running a role-play account of all
things. Earlier on, I mentioned their

4638
01:38:11,109 --> 01:38:11,119
things. Earlier on, I mentioned their
 

4639
01:38:11,119 --> 01:38:13,830
things. Earlier on, I mentioned their
schizophrenic thread from March, and

4640
01:38:13,830 --> 01:38:13,840
schizophrenic thread from March, and
 

4641
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:15,750
schizophrenic thread from March, and
good lord does this contain some weird

4642
01:38:15,750 --> 01:38:15,760
good lord does this contain some weird
 

4643
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,229
good lord does this contain some weird
lore about them. Allow me to save you

4644
01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:18,239
lore about them. Allow me to save you
 

4645
01:38:18,239 --> 01:38:20,390
lore about them. Allow me to save you
some time reading it and just provide

4646
01:38:20,390 --> 01:38:20,400
some time reading it and just provide
 

4647
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,990
some time reading it and just provide
you a simple TLDDR. Fandon is a

4648
01:38:23,990 --> 01:38:24,000
you a simple TLDDR. Fandon is a
 

4649
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:26,550
you a simple TLDDR. Fandon is a
narcissistic lunatic whose greatest

4650
01:38:26,550 --> 01:38:26,560
narcissistic lunatic whose greatest
 

4651
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:28,390
narcissistic lunatic whose greatest
achievement in life is role- playinging

4652
01:38:28,390 --> 01:38:28,400
achievement in life is role- playinging
 

4653
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,189
achievement in life is role- playinging
as the character Discord, something that

4654
01:38:31,189 --> 01:38:31,199
as the character Discord, something that
 

4655
01:38:31,199 --> 01:38:32,950
as the character Discord, something that
essentially occurred accidentally

4656
01:38:32,950 --> 01:38:32,960
essentially occurred accidentally
 

4657
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:34,709
essentially occurred accidentally
through a meme account connected to

4658
01:38:34,709 --> 01:38:34,719
through a meme account connected to
 

4659
01:38:34,719 --> 01:38:37,189
through a meme account connected to
their main character. Now, Fande would

4660
01:38:37,189 --> 01:38:37,199
their main character. Now, Fande would
 

4661
01:38:37,199 --> 01:38:40,149
their main character. Now, Fande would
describe this as accidentally laying the

4662
01:38:40,149 --> 01:38:40,159
describe this as accidentally laying the
 

4663
01:38:40,159 --> 01:38:42,149
describe this as accidentally laying the
groundwork to be the most powerful

4664
01:38:42,149 --> 01:38:42,159
groundwork to be the most powerful
 

4665
01:38:42,159 --> 01:38:44,790
groundwork to be the most powerful
character ever, describing this as a

4666
01:38:44,790 --> 01:38:44,800
character ever, describing this as a
 

4667
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,750
character ever, describing this as a
trial by fire because with great power

4668
01:38:47,750 --> 01:38:47,760
trial by fire because with great power
 

4669
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:50,149
trial by fire because with great power
comes great responsibility. After all,

4670
01:38:50,149 --> 01:38:50,159
comes great responsibility. After all,
 

4671
01:38:50,159 --> 01:38:52,870
comes great responsibility. After all,
guys, they were still barely a team.

4672
01:38:52,870 --> 01:38:52,880
guys, they were still barely a team.
 

4673
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,550
guys, they were still barely a team.
They keep talking about how they were

4674
01:38:54,550 --> 01:38:54,560
They keep talking about how they were
 

4675
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:56,709
They keep talking about how they were
getting bigger and bigger roles, how

4676
01:38:56,709 --> 01:38:56,719
getting bigger and bigger roles, how
 

4677
01:38:56,719 --> 01:38:58,709
getting bigger and bigger roles, how
shocking it was that they had fans

4678
01:38:58,709 --> 01:38:58,719
shocking it was that they had fans
 

4679
01:38:58,719 --> 01:39:00,470
shocking it was that they had fans
they'd meet at conventions. And I'm

4680
01:39:00,470 --> 01:39:00,480
they'd meet at conventions. And I'm
 

4681
01:39:00,480 --> 01:39:02,629
they'd meet at conventions. And I'm
going to stop here because this is

4682
01:39:02,629 --> 01:39:02,639
going to stop here because this is
 

4683
01:39:02,639 --> 01:39:05,510
going to stop here because this is
fantasy. I have yet to run into anybody.

4684
01:39:05,510 --> 01:39:05,520
fantasy. I have yet to run into anybody.
 

4685
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,149
fantasy. I have yet to run into anybody.
And yes, I have tried who was even aware

4686
01:39:08,149 --> 01:39:08,159
And yes, I have tried who was even aware
 

4687
01:39:08,159 --> 01:39:09,910
And yes, I have tried who was even aware
of this person before they started going

4688
01:39:09,910 --> 01:39:09,920
of this person before they started going
 

4689
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,149
of this person before they started going
after Black Griffin. Brony Fan don't

4690
01:39:12,149 --> 01:39:12,159
after Black Griffin. Brony Fan don't
 

4691
01:39:12,159 --> 01:39:14,470
after Black Griffin. Brony Fan don't
existed in a very very niche part of

4692
01:39:14,470 --> 01:39:14,480
existed in a very very niche part of
 

4693
01:39:14,480 --> 01:39:16,709
existed in a very very niche part of
this community. And sure, I get it. If

4694
01:39:16,709 --> 01:39:16,719
this community. And sure, I get it. If
 

4695
01:39:16,719 --> 01:39:18,709
this community. And sure, I get it. If
you're a massive loser and you've got a

4696
01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:18,719
you're a massive loser and you've got a
 

4697
01:39:18,719 --> 01:39:20,310
you're a massive loser and you've got a
few hundred people paying attention to

4698
01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:20,320
few hundred people paying attention to
 

4699
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:22,550
few hundred people paying attention to
your weird meme Twitter account, that

4700
01:39:22,550 --> 01:39:22,560
your weird meme Twitter account, that
 

4701
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:24,870
your weird meme Twitter account, that
might mean something to you. But this

4702
01:39:24,870 --> 01:39:24,880
might mean something to you. But this
 

4703
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:27,590
might mean something to you. But this
was Fandon's life. He had nothing else.

4704
01:39:27,590 --> 01:39:27,600
was Fandon's life. He had nothing else.
 

4705
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:30,149
was Fandon's life. He had nothing else.
And then suddenly the lockdown started

4706
01:39:30,149 --> 01:39:30,159
And then suddenly the lockdown started
 

4707
01:39:30,159 --> 01:39:32,950
And then suddenly the lockdown started
to happen. For it was not apathy that

4708
01:39:32,950 --> 01:39:32,960
to happen. For it was not apathy that
 

4709
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,149
to happen. For it was not apathy that
killed the bronies. It was a global

4710
01:39:35,149 --> 01:39:35,159
killed the bronies. It was a global
 

4711
01:39:35,159 --> 01:39:37,510
killed the bronies. It was a global
pandemic. Obviously, the vast majority

4712
01:39:37,510 --> 01:39:37,520
pandemic. Obviously, the vast majority
 

4713
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:39,430
pandemic. Obviously, the vast majority
of the fan base had already moved on

4714
01:39:39,430 --> 01:39:39,440
of the fan base had already moved on
 

4715
01:39:39,440 --> 01:39:41,990
of the fan base had already moved on
from the show, but cons were still

4716
01:39:41,990 --> 01:39:42,000
from the show, but cons were still
 

4717
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:43,910
from the show, but cons were still
happening, and these seemed to be the

4718
01:39:43,910 --> 01:39:43,920
happening, and these seemed to be the
 

4719
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:45,830
happening, and these seemed to be the
only interactions Fandon had with people

4720
01:39:45,830 --> 01:39:45,840
only interactions Fandon had with people
 

4721
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:48,070
only interactions Fandon had with people
in the real world. This is obviously

4722
01:39:48,070 --> 01:39:48,080
in the real world. This is obviously
 

4723
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,870
in the real world. This is obviously
just a theory for me, but timelinewise,

4724
01:39:50,870 --> 01:39:50,880
just a theory for me, but timelinewise,
 

4725
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:52,870
just a theory for me, but timelinewise,
I really do think that this is the point

4726
01:39:52,870 --> 01:39:52,880
I really do think that this is the point
 

4727
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,830
I really do think that this is the point
where Fandon went from a bit weird to

4728
01:39:55,830 --> 01:39:55,840
where Fandon went from a bit weird to
 

4729
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:58,709
where Fandon went from a bit weird to
completely [\h__\h] insane. I sound like

4730
01:39:58,709 --> 01:39:58,719
completely [\h__\h] insane. I sound like
 

4731
01:39:58,719 --> 01:40:01,030
completely [\h__\h] insane. I sound like
I'm being mean, but this is actually the

4732
01:40:01,030 --> 01:40:01,040
I'm being mean, but this is actually the
 

4733
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:04,149
I'm being mean, but this is actually the
only defense for Fand. And it also might

4734
01:40:04,149 --> 01:40:04,159
only defense for Fand. And it also might
 

4735
01:40:04,159 --> 01:40:05,910
only defense for Fand. And it also might
answer the question of why he was

4736
01:40:05,910 --> 01:40:05,920
answer the question of why he was
 

4737
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:08,790
answer the question of why he was
utilized at all because right now we can

4738
01:40:08,790 --> 01:40:08,800
utilized at all because right now we can
 

4739
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:10,790
utilized at all because right now we can
see Sophie and Amy lying through their

4740
01:40:10,790 --> 01:40:10,800
see Sophie and Amy lying through their
 

4741
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,350
see Sophie and Amy lying through their
[\h__\h] teeth about how neither of them

4742
01:40:13,350 --> 01:40:13,360
[\h__\h] teeth about how neither of them
 

4743
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:15,350
[\h__\h] teeth about how neither of them
thought this was a good idea and Emily

4744
01:40:15,350 --> 01:40:15,360
thought this was a good idea and Emily
 

4745
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:18,149
thought this was a good idea and Emily
was just a bit too erratic. Ladies, your

4746
01:40:18,149 --> 01:40:18,159
was just a bit too erratic. Ladies, your
 

4747
01:40:18,159 --> 01:40:19,990
was just a bit too erratic. Ladies, your
names are all over this. My advice to

4748
01:40:19,990 --> 01:40:20,000
names are all over this. My advice to
 

4749
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:23,430
names are all over this. My advice to
you would be to shut the [\h__\h] up. Yet, I

4750
01:40:23,430 --> 01:40:23,440
you would be to shut the [\h__\h] up. Yet, I
 

4751
01:40:23,440 --> 01:40:26,629
you would be to shut the [\h__\h] up. Yet, I
get it. Fandone in this story is by far

4752
01:40:26,629 --> 01:40:26,639
get it. Fandone in this story is by far
 

4753
01:40:26,639 --> 01:40:29,669
get it. Fandone in this story is by far
the worst actor. So, when throwing KP to

4754
01:40:29,669 --> 01:40:29,679
the worst actor. So, when throwing KP to
 

4755
01:40:29,679 --> 01:40:31,910
the worst actor. So, when throwing KP to
the wolves wasn't quite enough, I guess

4756
01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:31,920
the wolves wasn't quite enough, I guess
 

4757
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,310
the wolves wasn't quite enough, I guess
he has to go as well. Though, as always,

4758
01:40:34,310 --> 01:40:34,320
he has to go as well. Though, as always,
 

4759
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:36,310
he has to go as well. Though, as always,
I am just happy to help. So, let's start

4760
01:40:36,310 --> 01:40:36,320
I am just happy to help. So, let's start
 

4761
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:38,310
I am just happy to help. So, let's start
with the friend of all three of these

4762
01:40:38,310 --> 01:40:38,320
with the friend of all three of these
 

4763
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:39,950
with the friend of all three of these
people,

4764
01:40:39,950 --> 01:40:39,960
people,
 

4765
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:42,709
people,
Wootmaster. Wootmaster, also known as

4766
01:40:42,709 --> 01:40:42,719
Wootmaster. Wootmaster, also known as
 

4767
01:40:42,719 --> 01:40:45,669
Wootmaster. Wootmaster, also known as
Ezekiel the Zebra, is an artist with a

4768
01:40:45,669 --> 01:40:45,679
Ezekiel the Zebra, is an artist with a
 

4769
01:40:45,679 --> 01:40:47,910
Ezekiel the Zebra, is an artist with a
long history of controversy. They

4770
01:40:47,910 --> 01:40:47,920
long history of controversy. They
 

4771
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,070
long history of controversy. They
actually have some history with Senate,

4772
01:40:50,070 --> 01:40:50,080
actually have some history with Senate,
 

4773
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:52,709
actually have some history with Senate,
but our focus here is their pornographic

4774
01:40:52,709 --> 01:40:52,719
but our focus here is their pornographic
 

4775
01:40:52,719 --> 01:40:55,109
but our focus here is their pornographic
material because Wootmaster shares

4776
01:40:55,109 --> 01:40:55,119
material because Wootmaster shares
 

4777
01:40:55,119 --> 01:40:57,510
material because Wootmaster shares
similar interest to Brony Fand.

4778
01:40:57,510 --> 01:40:57,520
similar interest to Brony Fand.
 

4779
01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:59,430
similar interest to Brony Fand.
Obviously, I don't want to flashbang you

4780
01:40:59,430 --> 01:40:59,440
Obviously, I don't want to flashbang you
 

4781
01:40:59,440 --> 01:41:00,870
Obviously, I don't want to flashbang you
with this stuff. I'm not a complete

4782
01:41:00,870 --> 01:41:00,880
with this stuff. I'm not a complete
 

4783
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:03,270
with this stuff. I'm not a complete
[\h__\h] amateur. Fortunately, I don't

4784
01:41:03,270 --> 01:41:03,280
[\h__\h] amateur. Fortunately, I don't
 

4785
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:04,709
[\h__\h] amateur. Fortunately, I don't
have to, though, because if you want to

4786
01:41:04,709 --> 01:41:04,719
have to, though, because if you want to
 

4787
01:41:04,719 --> 01:41:07,109
have to, though, because if you want to
know what sort of person Woot is, their

4788
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:07,119
know what sort of person Woot is, their
 

4789
01:41:07,119 --> 01:41:09,030
know what sort of person Woot is, their
other major controversy involves their

4790
01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:09,040
other major controversy involves their
 

4791
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:12,229
other major controversy involves their
partner, who was a pedophile personally

4792
01:41:12,229 --> 01:41:12,239
partner, who was a pedophile personally
 

4793
01:41:12,239 --> 01:41:15,510
partner, who was a pedophile personally
banned by Elon Musk. Woot's history is

4794
01:41:15,510 --> 01:41:15,520
banned by Elon Musk. Woot's history is
 

4795
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:17,750
banned by Elon Musk. Woot's history is
shockingly wellknown, and Fandone is

4796
01:41:17,750 --> 01:41:17,760
shockingly wellknown, and Fandone is
 

4797
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:19,990
shockingly wellknown, and Fandone is
constantly bringing them up, even in the

4798
01:41:19,990 --> 01:41:20,000
constantly bringing them up, even in the
 

4799
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:23,030
constantly bringing them up, even in the
DMs with KP. The reason I raise this is

4800
01:41:23,030 --> 01:41:23,040
DMs with KP. The reason I raise this is
 

4801
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,350
DMs with KP. The reason I raise this is
a to show you what sort of person Fand

4802
01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:25,360
a to show you what sort of person Fand
 

4803
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:27,350
a to show you what sort of person Fand
is, but secondly because it is no

4804
01:41:27,350 --> 01:41:27,360
is, but secondly because it is no
 

4805
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,910
is, but secondly because it is no
coincidence that Fandon is so keen to go

4806
01:41:29,910 --> 01:41:29,920
coincidence that Fandon is so keen to go
 

4807
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,310
coincidence that Fandon is so keen to go
after Saber Spark cuz Sabre has fought

4808
01:41:32,310 --> 01:41:32,320
after Saber Spark cuz Sabre has fought
 

4809
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:35,270
after Saber Spark cuz Sabre has fought
with Woot publicly on Twitter. I'm

4810
01:41:35,270 --> 01:41:35,280
with Woot publicly on Twitter. I'm
 

4811
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,350
with Woot publicly on Twitter. I'm
honestly not sure quite how to square

4812
01:41:37,350 --> 01:41:37,360
honestly not sure quite how to square
 

4813
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:39,270
honestly not sure quite how to square
the circle between somebody who spends

4814
01:41:39,270 --> 01:41:39,280
the circle between somebody who spends
 

4815
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:41,590
the circle between somebody who spends
their entire life at the moment trying

4816
01:41:41,590 --> 01:41:41,600
their entire life at the moment trying
 

4817
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:44,350
their entire life at the moment trying
to out somebody as a groomer while also

4818
01:41:44,350 --> 01:41:44,360
to out somebody as a groomer while also
 

4819
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:46,229
to out somebody as a groomer while also
simultaneously defending their friend

4820
01:41:46,229 --> 01:41:46,239
simultaneously defending their friend
 

4821
01:41:46,239 --> 01:41:49,109
simultaneously defending their friend
who either was or is dating a pedophile.

4822
01:41:49,109 --> 01:41:49,119
who either was or is dating a pedophile.
 

4823
01:41:49,119 --> 01:41:51,629
who either was or is dating a pedophile.
all under a backdrop of this bizarre

4824
01:41:51,629 --> 01:41:51,639
all under a backdrop of this bizarre
 

4825
01:41:51,639 --> 01:41:53,990
all under a backdrop of this bizarre
pornography. And it is interesting,

4826
01:41:53,990 --> 01:41:54,000
pornography. And it is interesting,
 

4827
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:56,470
pornography. And it is interesting,
right, that Brony Fandone seems to start

4828
01:41:56,470 --> 01:41:56,480
right, that Brony Fandone seems to start
 

4829
01:41:56,480 --> 01:41:58,229
right, that Brony Fandone seems to start
going after Cla, the voice actress for

4830
01:41:58,229 --> 01:41:58,239
going after Cla, the voice actress for
 

4831
01:41:58,239 --> 01:42:00,629
going after Cla, the voice actress for
Sweetie Bell, the minute she gets into a

4832
01:42:00,629 --> 01:42:00,639
Sweetie Bell, the minute she gets into a
 

4833
01:42:00,639 --> 01:42:02,709
Sweetie Bell, the minute she gets into a
relationship. It's almost as if this

4834
01:42:02,709 --> 01:42:02,719
relationship. It's almost as if this
 

4835
01:42:02,719 --> 01:42:04,790
relationship. It's almost as if this
adult woman publicly dating somebody

4836
01:42:04,790 --> 01:42:04,800
adult woman publicly dating somebody
 

4837
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:08,390
adult woman publicly dating somebody
else ruin Fandon's fantasies. And no,

4838
01:42:08,390 --> 01:42:08,400
else ruin Fandon's fantasies. And no,
 

4839
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:09,830
else ruin Fandon's fantasies. And no,
I'm not going to show it to you, but

4840
01:42:09,830 --> 01:42:09,840
I'm not going to show it to you, but
 

4841
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:11,990
I'm not going to show it to you, but
Wootmaster did at one point seemingly

4842
01:42:11,990 --> 01:42:12,000
Wootmaster did at one point seemingly
 

4843
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,790
Wootmaster did at one point seemingly
either draw or retweet pornographic

4844
01:42:14,790 --> 01:42:14,800
either draw or retweet pornographic
 

4845
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,990
either draw or retweet pornographic
images of Sweetie Bell. Fandon's crusade

4846
01:42:17,990 --> 01:42:18,000
images of Sweetie Bell. Fandon's crusade
 

4847
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,070
images of Sweetie Bell. Fandon's crusade
against Gabe has been longunning. But

4848
01:42:20,070 --> 01:42:20,080
against Gabe has been longunning. But
 

4849
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:22,149
against Gabe has been longunning. But
most interestingly about it is how he

4850
01:42:22,149 --> 01:42:22,159
most interestingly about it is how he
 

4851
01:42:22,159 --> 01:42:24,870
most interestingly about it is how he
has treated Clare because she went from

4852
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:24,880
has treated Clare because she went from
 

4853
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:29,109
has treated Clare because she went from
his primary concern to his mortal enemy.

4854
01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:29,119
his primary concern to his mortal enemy.
 

4855
01:42:29,119 --> 01:42:31,590
his primary concern to his mortal enemy.
Even going so far as to deny any abuse

4856
01:42:31,590 --> 01:42:31,600
Even going so far as to deny any abuse
 

4857
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:33,590
Even going so far as to deny any abuse
she may have suffered from her father.

4858
01:42:33,590 --> 01:42:33,600
she may have suffered from her father.
 

4859
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,590
she may have suffered from her father.
For those not in the know, Clare has

4860
01:42:35,590 --> 01:42:35,600
For those not in the know, Clare has
 

4861
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,830
For those not in the know, Clare has
been very vocal about having a troubled

4862
01:42:37,830 --> 01:42:37,840
been very vocal about having a troubled
 

4863
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,310
been very vocal about having a troubled
home life. Much of which seems to be

4864
01:42:40,310 --> 01:42:40,320
home life. Much of which seems to be
 

4865
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:42,070
home life. Much of which seems to be
dismissed by people who were a fan of

4866
01:42:42,070 --> 01:42:42,080
dismissed by people who were a fan of
 

4867
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,070
dismissed by people who were a fan of
her father as he is the Canadian voice

4868
01:42:44,070 --> 01:42:44,080
her father as he is the Canadian voice
 

4869
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:46,709
her father as he is the Canadian voice
actor for Goku. When all this stuff with

4870
01:42:46,709 --> 01:42:46,719
actor for Goku. When all this stuff with
 

4871
01:42:46,719 --> 01:42:48,709
actor for Goku. When all this stuff with
Fando started, Clare just thought it was

4872
01:42:48,709 --> 01:42:48,719
Fando started, Clare just thought it was
 

4873
01:42:48,719 --> 01:42:51,189
Fando started, Clare just thought it was
a dad because he has a history of making

4874
01:42:51,189 --> 01:42:51,199
a dad because he has a history of making
 

4875
01:42:51,199 --> 01:42:53,510
a dad because he has a history of making
fake accounts to basically stalk her and

4876
01:42:53,510 --> 01:42:53,520
fake accounts to basically stalk her and
 

4877
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,910
fake accounts to basically stalk her and
her now husband. There's evidence of him

4878
01:42:55,910 --> 01:42:55,920
her now husband. There's evidence of him
 

4879
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:57,910
her now husband. There's evidence of him
admitting this to her in a recording.

4880
01:42:57,910 --> 01:42:57,920
admitting this to her in a recording.
 

4881
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:59,510
admitting this to her in a recording.
Now, many people haven't heard this.

4882
01:42:59,510 --> 01:42:59,520
Now, many people haven't heard this.
 

4883
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:01,270
Now, many people haven't heard this.
It's part of one of the Gabe defense

4884
01:43:01,270 --> 01:43:01,280
It's part of one of the Gabe defense
 

4885
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:03,430
It's part of one of the Gabe defense
documents and a little bit difficult to

4886
01:43:03,430 --> 01:43:03,440
documents and a little bit difficult to
 

4887
01:43:03,440 --> 01:43:06,229
documents and a little bit difficult to
access. So, with permission, I'm just

4888
01:43:06,229 --> 01:43:06,239
access. So, with permission, I'm just
 

4889
01:43:06,239 --> 01:43:08,310
access. So, with permission, I'm just
going to play it for you. One thing I

4890
01:43:08,310 --> 01:43:08,320
going to play it for you. One thing I
 

4891
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:10,070
going to play it for you. One thing I
would like to say, if you want to talk

4892
01:43:10,070 --> 01:43:10,080
would like to say, if you want to talk
 

4893
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:12,669
would like to say, if you want to talk
about Twitter and

4894
01:43:12,669 --> 01:43:12,679
about Twitter and
 

4895
01:43:12,679 --> 01:43:14,870
about Twitter and
lying, do you have something to say for

4896
01:43:14,870 --> 01:43:14,880
lying, do you have something to say for
 

4897
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,990
lying, do you have something to say for
yourself, Janice? Absolutely. Yeah. I I

4898
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:18,000
yourself, Janice? Absolutely. Yeah. I I
 

4899
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:21,669
yourself, Janice? Absolutely. Yeah. I I
formed a Twitter handle that uh because

4900
01:43:21,669 --> 01:43:21,679
formed a Twitter handle that uh because
 

4901
01:43:21,679 --> 01:43:23,830
formed a Twitter handle that uh because
I didn't think it was appropriate for

4902
01:43:23,830 --> 01:43:23,840
I didn't think it was appropriate for
 

4903
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:25,310
I didn't think it was appropriate for
your

4904
01:43:25,310 --> 01:43:25,320
your
 

4905
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:29,030
your
your to go, "What a croc of [\h__\h] that

4906
01:43:29,030 --> 01:43:29,040
your to go, "What a croc of [\h__\h] that
 

4907
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:31,270
your to go, "What a croc of [\h__\h] that
is, Gabe." In case that hurts your

4908
01:43:31,270 --> 01:43:31,280
is, Gabe." In case that hurts your
 

4909
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:32,950
is, Gabe." In case that hurts your
career if you do it on your Twitter

4910
01:43:32,950 --> 01:43:32,960
career if you do it on your Twitter
 

4911
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:34,629
career if you do it on your Twitter
account. Oh, no, no, no, no. Just

4912
01:43:34,629 --> 01:43:34,639
account. Oh, no, no, no, no. Just
 

4913
01:43:34,639 --> 01:43:37,669
account. Oh, no, no, no, no. Just
because it's kind of human. That's all.

4914
01:43:37,669 --> 01:43:37,679
because it's kind of human. That's all.
 

4915
01:43:37,679 --> 01:43:39,990
because it's kind of human. That's all.
And I completely admit cyber bullying is

4916
01:43:39,990 --> 01:43:40,000
And I completely admit cyber bullying is
 

4917
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:42,229
And I completely admit cyber bullying is
human. I completely admit to it. Really?

4918
01:43:42,229 --> 01:43:42,239
human. I completely admit to it. Really?
 

4919
01:43:42,239 --> 01:43:44,310
human. I completely admit to it. Really?
But you never told me. Why would I tell

4920
01:43:44,310 --> 01:43:44,320
But you never told me. Why would I tell
 

4921
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:47,189
But you never told me. Why would I tell
you? You blocked me on Twitter.

4922
01:43:47,189 --> 01:43:47,199
you? You blocked me on Twitter.
 

4923
01:43:47,199 --> 01:43:49,750
you? You blocked me on Twitter.
Big deal. So you didn't want to see me,

4924
01:43:49,750 --> 01:43:49,760
Big deal. So you didn't want to see me,
 

4925
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:52,550
Big deal. So you didn't want to see me,
but you you'll tell me. I'll I'm telling

4926
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:52,560
but you you'll tell me. I'll I'm telling
 

4927
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:54,310
but you you'll tell me. I'll I'm telling
you right now. I'm not Why did you block

4928
01:43:54,310 --> 01:43:54,320
you right now. I'm not Why did you block
 

4929
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:56,470
you right now. I'm not Why did you block
me on Twitter? I'm not What do you mean

4930
01:43:56,470 --> 01:43:56,480
me on Twitter? I'm not What do you mean
 

4931
01:43:56,480 --> 01:43:58,990
me on Twitter? I'm not What do you mean
block? Janice

4932
01:43:58,990 --> 01:43:59,000
block? Janice
 

4933
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,550
block? Janice
blocked on Twitter. Fine. Do you want me

4934
01:44:02,550 --> 01:44:02,560
blocked on Twitter. Fine. Do you want me
 

4935
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:04,149
blocked on Twitter. Fine. Do you want me
I can unblock you and I You know what?

4936
01:44:04,149 --> 01:44:04,159
I can unblock you and I You know what?
 

4937
01:44:04,159 --> 01:44:05,830
I can unblock you and I You know what?
Now that it's all in the open, I'll I'll

4938
01:44:05,830 --> 01:44:05,840
Now that it's all in the open, I'll I'll
 

4939
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:09,270
Now that it's all in the open, I'll I'll
really do it because I think about this.

4940
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:09,280
really do it because I think about this.
 

4941
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:10,709
really do it because I think about this.
I think I think that people No, mom

4942
01:44:10,709 --> 01:44:10,719
I think I think that people No, mom
 

4943
01:44:10,719 --> 01:44:12,470
I think I think that people No, mom
knows nothing about this. I think that

4944
01:44:12,470 --> 01:44:12,480
knows nothing about this. I think that
 

4945
01:44:12,480 --> 01:44:13,390
knows nothing about this. I think that
people

4946
01:44:13,390 --> 01:44:13,400
people
 

4947
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:17,830
people
that need to be called out when they're

4948
01:44:17,830 --> 01:44:17,840
that need to be called out when they're
 

4949
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:20,790
that need to be called out when they're
full of it. And frankly, there's a huge

4950
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:20,800
full of it. And frankly, there's a huge
 

4951
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:22,950
full of it. And frankly, there's a huge
component of his followers that go,

4952
01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:22,960
component of his followers that go,
 

4953
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:24,950
component of his followers that go,
"What the hell are you tweeting for at 3

4954
01:44:24,950 --> 01:44:24,960
"What the hell are you tweeting for at 3
 

4955
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:27,669
"What the hell are you tweeting for at 3
in the morning for?" That is very common

4956
01:44:27,669 --> 01:44:27,679
in the morning for?" That is very common
 

4957
01:44:27,679 --> 01:44:29,990
in the morning for?" That is very common
for him. So, I don't know why I'm well

4958
01:44:29,990 --> 01:44:30,000
for him. So, I don't know why I'm well
 

4959
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:31,590
for him. So, I don't know why I'm well
aware of that. It's not like It's not

4960
01:44:31,590 --> 01:44:31,600
aware of that. It's not like It's not
 

4961
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:35,390
aware of that. It's not like It's not
like he's on tour in, you know, in Ario

4962
01:44:35,390 --> 01:44:35,400
like he's on tour in, you know, in Ario
 

4963
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,229
like he's on tour in, you know, in Ario
Speedwagon and they're playing gigs till

4964
01:44:38,229 --> 01:44:38,239
Speedwagon and they're playing gigs till
 

4965
01:44:38,239 --> 01:44:42,629
Speedwagon and they're playing gigs till
2 a.m. He's doing nothing. You are

4966
01:44:42,629 --> 01:44:42,639
2 a.m. He's doing nothing. You are
 

4967
01:44:42,639 --> 01:44:44,030
2 a.m. He's doing nothing. You are
trying to

4968
01:44:44,030 --> 01:44:44,040
trying to
 

4969
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:47,750
trying to
sabotage him and his career and

4970
01:44:47,750 --> 01:44:47,760
sabotage him and his career and
 

4971
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:49,149
sabotage him and his career and
everything about

4972
01:44:49,149 --> 01:44:49,159
everything about
 

4973
01:44:49,159 --> 01:44:51,510
everything about
him. And that is the way you're going

4974
01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:51,520
him. And that is the way you're going
 

4975
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:57,350
him. And that is the way you're going
about it instead of talking and you're

4976
01:44:57,350 --> 01:44:57,360
about it instead of talking and you're
 

4977
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,709
about it instead of talking and you're
you're you're swooing your freaking way

4978
01:45:00,709 --> 01:45:00,719
you're you're swooing your freaking way
 

4979
01:45:00,719 --> 01:45:02,629
you're you're swooing your freaking way
around every other possibility that

4980
01:45:02,629 --> 01:45:02,639
around every other possibility that
 

4981
01:45:02,639 --> 01:45:07,510
around every other possibility that
could get you

4982
01:45:07,510 --> 01:45:07,520

 

4983
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:11,350

and his his extra Twitter account said

4984
01:45:11,350 --> 01:45:11,360
and his his extra Twitter account said
 

4985
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:13,830
and his his extra Twitter account said
which you deny. I did not deny it. Yeah.

4986
01:45:13,830 --> 01:45:13,840
which you deny. I did not deny it. Yeah.
 

4987
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,790
which you deny. I did not deny it. Yeah.
Gabe sent you a DM said quit. I know

4988
01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:16,800
Gabe sent you a DM said quit. I know
 

4989
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:18,470
Gabe sent you a DM said quit. I know
what this is about. And you were like oh

4990
01:45:18,470 --> 01:45:18,480
what this is about. And you were like oh
 

4991
01:45:18,480 --> 01:45:20,550
what this is about. And you were like oh
just another hater. That's not denying

4992
01:45:20,550 --> 01:45:20,560
just another hater. That's not denying
 

4993
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,669
just another hater. That's not denying
anything. I am a hater.

4994
01:45:23,669 --> 01:45:23,679
anything. I am a hater.
 

4995
01:45:23,679 --> 01:45:24,830
anything. I am a hater.
Come

4996
01:45:24,830 --> 01:45:24,840
Come
 

4997
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:26,910
Come
back. First of

4998
01:45:26,910 --> 01:45:26,920
back. First of
 

4999
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:30,229
back. First of
all, quarantine in your [\h__\h] room.

5000
01:45:30,229 --> 01:45:30,239
all, quarantine in your [\h__\h] room.
 

5001
01:45:30,239 --> 01:45:34,310
all, quarantine in your [\h__\h] room.
Bye. I have one more thing to say.

5002
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:34,320
Bye. I have one more thing to say.
 

5003
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:36,709
Bye. I have one more thing to say.
What do you have now? Why is that? What

5004
01:45:36,709 --> 01:45:36,719
What do you have now? Why is that? What
 

5005
01:45:36,719 --> 01:45:39,109
What do you have now? Why is that? What
is all this [\h__\h] Oh, I'm going to

5006
01:45:39,109 --> 01:45:39,119
is all this [\h__\h] Oh, I'm going to
 

5007
01:45:39,119 --> 01:45:41,990
is all this [\h__\h] Oh, I'm going to
go into family therapy like this. You

5008
01:45:41,990 --> 01:45:42,000
go into family therapy like this. You
 

5009
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:45,510
go into family therapy like this. You
said family therapy. [\h__\h] You liar.

5010
01:45:45,510 --> 01:45:45,520
said family therapy. [\h__\h] You liar.
 

5011
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:46,510
said family therapy. [\h__\h] You liar.
[\h__\h]

5012
01:45:46,510 --> 01:45:46,520
[\h__\h]
 

5013
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:48,390
[\h__\h]
liar.

5014
01:45:48,390 --> 01:45:48,400
liar.
 

5015
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:51,910
liar.
I know you're going to try to equate me.

5016
01:45:51,910 --> 01:45:51,920
I know you're going to try to equate me.
 

5017
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:54,629
I know you're going to try to equate me.
[\h__\h] off. Whatever you think about the

5018
01:45:54,629 --> 01:45:54,639
[\h__\h] off. Whatever you think about the
 

5019
01:45:54,639 --> 01:45:56,149
[\h__\h] off. Whatever you think about the
Black Griffin allegations, people are

5020
01:45:56,149 --> 01:45:56,159
Black Griffin allegations, people are
 

5021
01:45:56,159 --> 01:45:57,510
Black Griffin allegations, people are
just denying this happened to her

5022
01:45:57,510 --> 01:45:57,520
just denying this happened to her
 

5023
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:58,709
just denying this happened to her
because it doesn't fit with their

5024
01:45:58,709 --> 01:45:58,719
because it doesn't fit with their
 

5025
01:45:58,719 --> 01:46:00,310
because it doesn't fit with their
narrative. And if you're somebody who

5026
01:46:00,310 --> 01:46:00,320
narrative. And if you're somebody who
 

5027
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:02,470
narrative. And if you're somebody who
claims to care about victims, this seems

5028
01:46:02,470 --> 01:46:02,480
claims to care about victims, this seems
 

5029
01:46:02,480 --> 01:46:04,149
claims to care about victims, this seems
like a pretty callous and uncaring thing

5030
01:46:04,149 --> 01:46:04,159
like a pretty callous and uncaring thing
 

5031
01:46:04,159 --> 01:46:06,390
like a pretty callous and uncaring thing
to do. And it has served to silence

5032
01:46:06,390 --> 01:46:06,400
to do. And it has served to silence
 

5033
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:08,310
to do. And it has served to silence
these people because why would they

5034
01:46:08,310 --> 01:46:08,320
these people because why would they
 

5035
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:11,030
these people because why would they
speak out? In fact, Black Griffin

5036
01:46:11,030 --> 01:46:11,040
speak out? In fact, Black Griffin
 

5037
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:12,709
speak out? In fact, Black Griffin
offered to speak to me. And I realized

5038
01:46:12,709 --> 01:46:12,719
offered to speak to me. And I realized
 

5039
01:46:12,719 --> 01:46:14,310
offered to speak to me. And I realized
that was a pointless endeavor and a

5040
01:46:14,310 --> 01:46:14,320
that was a pointless endeavor and a
 

5041
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:16,790
that was a pointless endeavor and a
waste of my time and his because

5042
01:46:16,790 --> 01:46:16,800
waste of my time and his because
 

5043
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,750
waste of my time and his because
whatever he said, none of his detractors

5044
01:46:19,750 --> 01:46:19,760
whatever he said, none of his detractors
 

5045
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,870
whatever he said, none of his detractors
will believe him. A significant portion

5046
01:46:22,870 --> 01:46:22,880
will believe him. A significant portion
 

5047
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:24,470
will believe him. A significant portion
of the conversations I have had with

5048
01:46:24,470 --> 01:46:24,480
of the conversations I have had with
 

5049
01:46:24,480 --> 01:46:26,870
of the conversations I have had with
Michelle and Clare are in reference to

5050
01:46:26,870 --> 01:46:26,880
Michelle and Clare are in reference to
 

5051
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:29,270
Michelle and Clare are in reference to
these allegations, but on reviewing it,

5052
01:46:29,270 --> 01:46:29,280
these allegations, but on reviewing it,
 

5053
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:30,870
these allegations, but on reviewing it,
I realized putting it in may be

5054
01:46:30,870 --> 01:46:30,880
I realized putting it in may be
 

5055
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:33,830
I realized putting it in may be
completely pointless. What I will say is

5056
01:46:33,830 --> 01:46:33,840
completely pointless. What I will say is
 

5057
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:35,750
completely pointless. What I will say is
both of them have spoken plainly and

5058
01:46:35,750 --> 01:46:35,760
both of them have spoken plainly and
 

5059
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:38,070
both of them have spoken plainly and
openly to me about these accusations.

5060
01:46:38,070 --> 01:46:38,080
openly to me about these accusations.
 

5061
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,310
openly to me about these accusations.
That being said, I do think there is one

5062
01:46:40,310 --> 01:46:40,320
That being said, I do think there is one
 

5063
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:42,470
That being said, I do think there is one
particular use for these conversations

5064
01:46:42,470 --> 01:46:42,480
particular use for these conversations
 

5065
01:46:42,480 --> 01:46:43,750
particular use for these conversations
because one thing they serve to

5066
01:46:43,750 --> 01:46:43,760
because one thing they serve to
 

5067
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:45,430
because one thing they serve to
highlight is the insane level of a

5068
01:46:45,430 --> 01:46:45,440
highlight is the insane level of a
 

5069
01:46:45,440 --> 01:46:46,950
highlight is the insane level of a
logging these people have been subjected

5070
01:46:46,950 --> 01:46:46,960
logging these people have been subjected
 

5071
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:49,189
logging these people have been subjected
to over the years. We're talking

5072
01:46:49,189 --> 01:46:49,199
to over the years. We're talking
 

5073
01:46:49,199 --> 01:46:51,590
to over the years. We're talking
anything public about these people. It's

5074
01:46:51,590 --> 01:46:51,600
anything public about these people. It's
 

5075
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:53,430
anything public about these people. It's
been trolled through and picked apart by

5076
01:46:53,430 --> 01:46:53,440
been trolled through and picked apart by
 

5077
01:46:53,440 --> 01:46:56,470
been trolled through and picked apart by
this lunatic to find anything damaging.

5078
01:46:56,470 --> 01:46:56,480
this lunatic to find anything damaging.
 

5079
01:46:56,480 --> 01:46:58,470
this lunatic to find anything damaging.
And I want to show you that through the

5080
01:46:58,470 --> 01:46:58,480
And I want to show you that through the
 

5081
01:46:58,480 --> 01:47:00,470
And I want to show you that through the
perspective of Michelle with Gabe and

5082
01:47:00,470 --> 01:47:00,480
perspective of Michelle with Gabe and
 

5083
01:47:00,480 --> 01:47:03,109
perspective of Michelle with Gabe and
Claire. The irony is we've calculated

5084
01:47:03,109 --> 01:47:03,119
Claire. The irony is we've calculated
 

5085
01:47:03,119 --> 01:47:07,270
Claire. The irony is we've calculated
now that Gabe and Claire met outside of

5086
01:47:07,270 --> 01:47:07,280
now that Gabe and Claire met outside of
 

5087
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:10,229
now that Gabe and Claire met outside of
conventions roughly six to seven times

5088
01:47:10,229 --> 01:47:10,239
conventions roughly six to seven times
 

5089
01:47:10,239 --> 01:47:11,510
conventions roughly six to seven times
and we've gone through all of our

5090
01:47:11,510 --> 01:47:11,520
and we've gone through all of our
 

5091
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:12,629
and we've gone through all of our
photos, all of our videos like

5092
01:47:12,629 --> 01:47:12,639
photos, all of our videos like
 

5093
01:47:12,639 --> 01:47:15,430
photos, all of our videos like
collectively to calculate accurately how

5094
01:47:15,430 --> 01:47:15,440
collectively to calculate accurately how
 

5095
01:47:15,440 --> 01:47:17,430
collectively to calculate accurately how
many times it would have been when she

5096
01:47:17,430 --> 01:47:17,440
many times it would have been when she
 

5097
01:47:17,440 --> 01:47:19,189
many times it would have been when she
was a minor outside of like conventions

5098
01:47:19,189 --> 01:47:19,199
was a minor outside of like conventions
 

5099
01:47:19,199 --> 01:47:21,030
was a minor outside of like conventions
and it still would have us like that's

5100
01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:21,040
and it still would have us like that's
 

5101
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:23,030
and it still would have us like that's
that's including like video shoots. It

5102
01:47:23,030 --> 01:47:23,040
that's including like video shoots. It
 

5103
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,189
that's including like video shoots. It
just happens to be that literally five

5104
01:47:25,189 --> 01:47:25,199
just happens to be that literally five
 

5105
01:47:25,199 --> 01:47:27,830
just happens to be that literally five
out of seven of those times were filmed.

5106
01:47:27,830 --> 01:47:27,840
out of seven of those times were filmed.
 

5107
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:30,629
out of seven of those times were filmed.
It was it like so it to these people it

5108
01:47:30,629 --> 01:47:30,639
It was it like so it to these people it
 

5109
01:47:30,639 --> 01:47:32,070
It was it like so it to these people it
looks like so much. It was like those

5110
01:47:32,070 --> 01:47:32,080
looks like so much. It was like those
 

5111
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:33,430
looks like so much. It was like those
were literally the only times they

5112
01:47:33,430 --> 01:47:33,440
were literally the only times they
 

5113
01:47:33,440 --> 01:47:35,189
were literally the only times they
interacted and then maybe the other two

5114
01:47:35,189 --> 01:47:35,199
interacted and then maybe the other two
 

5115
01:47:35,199 --> 01:47:37,270
interacted and then maybe the other two
times were my two birthdays. You know

5116
01:47:37,270 --> 01:47:37,280
times were my two birthdays. You know
 

5117
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:40,070
times were my two birthdays. You know
what I mean? Like it's just so the irony

5118
01:47:40,070 --> 01:47:40,080
what I mean? Like it's just so the irony
 

5119
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:41,350
what I mean? Like it's just so the irony
is crazy cuz it's like those were

5120
01:47:41,350 --> 01:47:41,360
is crazy cuz it's like those were
 

5121
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:42,790
is crazy cuz it's like those were
literally the only times they saw each

5122
01:47:42,790 --> 01:47:42,800
literally the only times they saw each
 

5123
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,350
literally the only times they saw each
other. Oh and one other time we saw like

5124
01:47:45,350 --> 01:47:45,360
other. Oh and one other time we saw like
 

5125
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:46,950
other. Oh and one other time we saw like
Book of Mormon and I don't think we

5126
01:47:46,950 --> 01:47:46,960
Book of Mormon and I don't think we
 

5127
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:48,149
Book of Mormon and I don't think we
filmed any videos there but we like

5128
01:47:48,149 --> 01:47:48,159
filmed any videos there but we like
 

5129
01:47:48,159 --> 01:47:50,550
filmed any videos there but we like
posted a picture. So it's literally all

5130
01:47:50,550 --> 01:47:50,560
posted a picture. So it's literally all
 

5131
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:52,629
posted a picture. So it's literally all
these times they're finding those are

5132
01:47:52,629 --> 01:47:52,639
these times they're finding those are
 

5133
01:47:52,639 --> 01:47:54,950
these times they're finding those are
the only examples like no more exist

5134
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:54,960
the only examples like no more exist
 

5135
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:57,750
the only examples like no more exist
essentially. I don't understand how pe

5136
01:47:57,750 --> 01:47:57,760
essentially. I don't understand how pe
 

5137
01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:59,830
essentially. I don't understand how pe
it's the people who are taking this way

5138
01:47:59,830 --> 01:47:59,840
it's the people who are taking this way
 

5139
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:03,270
it's the people who are taking this way
too seriously that get so wrapped up in

5140
01:48:03,270 --> 01:48:03,280
too seriously that get so wrapped up in
 

5141
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:05,510
too seriously that get so wrapped up in
this and they're like, "Look at here.

5142
01:48:05,510 --> 01:48:05,520
this and they're like, "Look at here.
 

5143
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:07,030
this and they're like, "Look at here.
They're by themselves." And I'm like,

5144
01:48:07,030 --> 01:48:07,040
They're by themselves." And I'm like,
 

5145
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:09,910
They're by themselves." And I'm like,
"No, we're not. We're with another

5146
01:48:09,910 --> 01:48:09,920
"No, we're not. We're with another
 

5147
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:12,310
"No, we're not. We're with another
person. They're right freaking there."

5148
01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:12,320
person. They're right freaking there."
 

5149
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:15,910
person. They're right freaking there."
And they just take screenshots of which

5150
01:48:15,910 --> 01:48:15,920
And they just take screenshots of which
 

5151
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:17,350
And they just take screenshots of which
I think is so funny. The fact that

5152
01:48:17,350 --> 01:48:17,360
I think is so funny. The fact that
 

5153
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:18,950
I think is so funny. The fact that
they're like screenshots from videos

5154
01:48:18,950 --> 01:48:18,960
they're like screenshots from videos
 

5155
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:21,830
they're like screenshots from videos
that I made and someone's like, "Please

5156
01:48:21,830 --> 01:48:21,840
that I made and someone's like, "Please
 

5157
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:23,990
that I made and someone's like, "Please
send this to Claire. We can still get

5158
01:48:23,990 --> 01:48:24,000
send this to Claire. We can still get
 

5159
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,270
send this to Claire. We can still get
her out. There's still time. I'm like,

5160
01:48:27,270 --> 01:48:27,280
her out. There's still time. I'm like,
 

5161
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:29,430
her out. There's still time. I'm like,
why is your goal that you want me to get

5162
01:48:29,430 --> 01:48:29,440
why is your goal that you want me to get
 

5163
01:48:29,440 --> 01:48:31,669
why is your goal that you want me to get
divorced? Or is it a step further? Do

5164
01:48:31,669 --> 01:48:31,679
divorced? Or is it a step further? Do
 

5165
01:48:31,679 --> 01:48:33,590
divorced? Or is it a step further? Do
you want me to freaking marry you?

5166
01:48:33,590 --> 01:48:33,600
you want me to freaking marry you?
 

5167
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:36,070
you want me to freaking marry you?
Because that's creepy. You know why?

5168
01:48:36,070 --> 01:48:36,080
Because that's creepy. You know why?
 

5169
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:39,030
Because that's creepy. You know why?
Because unlike Gabriel, you guys have

5170
01:48:39,030 --> 01:48:39,040
Because unlike Gabriel, you guys have
 

5171
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:41,990
Because unlike Gabriel, you guys have
been obsessed with me since I was 13. So

5172
01:48:41,990 --> 01:48:42,000
been obsessed with me since I was 13. So
 

5173
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:43,590
been obsessed with me since I was 13. So
maybe think about that the next time you

5174
01:48:43,590 --> 01:48:43,600
maybe think about that the next time you
 

5175
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:45,669
maybe think about that the next time you
look at yourself in the freaking mirror.

5176
01:48:45,669 --> 01:48:45,679
look at yourself in the freaking mirror.
 

5177
01:48:45,679 --> 01:48:49,830
look at yourself in the freaking mirror.
Jeez. So, one of the things that people,

5178
01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:49,840
Jeez. So, one of the things that people,
 

5179
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:53,149
Jeez. So, one of the things that people,
you know, claim is an inaccuracy that

5180
01:48:53,149 --> 01:48:53,159
you know, claim is an inaccuracy that
 

5181
01:48:53,159 --> 01:48:57,510
you know, claim is an inaccuracy that
that counters reality of how many times,

5182
01:48:57,510 --> 01:48:57,520
that counters reality of how many times,
 

5183
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:59,430
that counters reality of how many times,
you know, Gabe and Claire spent together

5184
01:48:59,430 --> 01:48:59,440
you know, Gabe and Claire spent together
 

5185
01:48:59,440 --> 01:49:01,270
you know, Gabe and Claire spent together
and how close friends they were. Was

5186
01:49:01,270 --> 01:49:01,280
and how close friends they were. Was
 

5187
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:04,390
and how close friends they were. Was
Gabe saying we weren't friends? I know

5188
01:49:04,390 --> 01:49:04,400
Gabe saying we weren't friends? I know
 

5189
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:06,629
Gabe saying we weren't friends? I know
Gab's definition of friends. I know he

5190
01:49:06,629 --> 01:49:06,639
Gab's definition of friends. I know he
 

5191
01:49:06,639 --> 01:49:08,390
Gab's definition of friends. I know he
would not have considered Clare a friend

5192
01:49:08,390 --> 01:49:08,400
would not have considered Clare a friend
 

5193
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:10,149
would not have considered Clare a friend
because he would consider somebody a

5194
01:49:10,149 --> 01:49:10,159
because he would consider somebody a
 

5195
01:49:10,159 --> 01:49:12,550
because he would consider somebody a
friend that he had, you know, con like

5196
01:49:12,550 --> 01:49:12,560
friend that he had, you know, con like
 

5197
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:15,590
friend that he had, you know, con like
contact with, phone number. He only had

5198
01:49:15,590 --> 01:49:15,600
contact with, phone number. He only had
 

5199
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:16,830
contact with, phone number. He only had
Cla's phone

5200
01:49:16,830 --> 01:49:16,840
Cla's phone
 

5201
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:20,109
Cla's phone
number, I don't know, some point like

5202
01:49:20,109 --> 01:49:20,119
number, I don't know, some point like
 

5203
01:49:20,119 --> 01:49:23,510
number, I don't know, some point like
2017ish because one of her parents gave

5204
01:49:23,510 --> 01:49:23,520
2017ish because one of her parents gave
 

5205
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:26,070
2017ish because one of her parents gave
him or no, one of her parents gave Cla

5206
01:49:26,070 --> 01:49:26,080
him or no, one of her parents gave Cla
 

5207
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:27,590
him or no, one of her parents gave Cla
Gab's number and that actually made Gabe

5208
01:49:27,590 --> 01:49:27,600
Gab's number and that actually made Gabe
 

5209
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:28,870
Gab's number and that actually made Gabe
really uncomfortable. And I was there

5210
01:49:28,870 --> 01:49:28,880
really uncomfortable. And I was there
 

5211
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:30,950
really uncomfortable. And I was there
when he first received a text from her

5212
01:49:30,950 --> 01:49:30,960
when he first received a text from her
 

5213
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,270
when he first received a text from her
and he was like, "Oh god, why did they

5214
01:49:33,270 --> 01:49:33,280
and he was like, "Oh god, why did they
 

5215
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:35,350
and he was like, "Oh god, why did they
give Claire my number? I don't want her

5216
01:49:35,350 --> 01:49:35,360
give Claire my number? I don't want her
 

5217
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,270
give Claire my number? I don't want her
to have my number." There were other

5218
01:49:37,270 --> 01:49:37,280
to have my number." There were other
 

5219
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:38,629
to have my number." There were other
people are in the room too, so I'm not

5220
01:49:38,629 --> 01:49:38,639
people are in the room too, so I'm not
 

5221
01:49:38,639 --> 01:49:41,470
people are in the room too, so I'm not
even the only witness to that. But

5222
01:49:41,470 --> 01:49:41,480
even the only witness to that. But
 

5223
01:49:41,480 --> 01:49:45,709
even the only witness to that. But
um they again only we've calculated it

5224
01:49:45,709 --> 01:49:45,719
um they again only we've calculated it
 

5225
01:49:45,719 --> 01:49:49,430
um they again only we've calculated it
specifically they only spent six to

5226
01:49:49,430 --> 01:49:49,440
specifically they only spent six to
 

5227
01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:51,310
specifically they only spent six to
seven times

5228
01:49:51,310 --> 01:49:51,320
seven times
 

5229
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,350
seven times
approximately together outside of

5230
01:49:53,350 --> 01:49:53,360
approximately together outside of
 

5231
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:55,590
approximately together outside of
conventions and I think yeah five or so

5232
01:49:55,590 --> 01:49:55,600
conventions and I think yeah five or so
 

5233
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:57,510
conventions and I think yeah five or so
of those times were filmed and there was

5234
01:49:57,510 --> 01:49:57,520
of those times were filmed and there was
 

5235
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:59,470
of those times were filmed and there was
only one

5236
01:49:59,470 --> 01:49:59,480
only one
 

5237
01:49:59,480 --> 01:50:02,189
only one
instance during our

5238
01:50:02,189 --> 01:50:02,199
instance during our
 

5239
01:50:02,199 --> 01:50:06,470
instance during our
entire childhood minority period where

5240
01:50:06,470 --> 01:50:06,480
entire childhood minority period where
 

5241
01:50:06,480 --> 01:50:09,350
entire childhood minority period where
Gabe and Claire and I just the three of

5242
01:50:09,350 --> 01:50:09,360
Gabe and Claire and I just the three of
 

5243
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:12,470
Gabe and Claire and I just the three of
of us were alone and it's that one video

5244
01:50:12,470 --> 01:50:12,480
of us were alone and it's that one video
 

5245
01:50:12,480 --> 01:50:15,109
of us were alone and it's that one video
of us going out into the woods and I

5246
01:50:15,109 --> 01:50:15,119
of us going out into the woods and I
 

5247
01:50:15,119 --> 01:50:16,790
of us going out into the woods and I
deleted it because I felt showing the

5248
01:50:16,790 --> 01:50:16,800
deleted it because I felt showing the
 

5249
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:18,709
deleted it because I felt showing the
dead raccoons was inappropriate. I I

5250
01:50:18,709 --> 01:50:18,719
dead raccoons was inappropriate. I I
 

5251
01:50:18,719 --> 01:50:20,629
dead raccoons was inappropriate. I I
deleted it like 8 years ago cuz I just

5252
01:50:20,629 --> 01:50:20,639
deleted it like 8 years ago cuz I just
 

5253
01:50:20,639 --> 01:50:23,590
deleted it like 8 years ago cuz I just
thought it was kind of a gross video. Um

5254
01:50:23,590 --> 01:50:23,600
thought it was kind of a gross video. Um
 

5255
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:25,830
thought it was kind of a gross video. Um
that's literally the only instance and

5256
01:50:25,830 --> 01:50:25,840
that's literally the only instance and
 

5257
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:28,790
that's literally the only instance and
these people somehow like went I don't

5258
01:50:28,790 --> 01:50:28,800
these people somehow like went I don't
 

5259
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:30,149
these people somehow like went I don't
even know how they found it and they

5260
01:50:30,149 --> 01:50:30,159
even know how they found it and they
 

5261
01:50:30,159 --> 01:50:31,669
even know how they found it and they
thought I deleted it because the

5262
01:50:31,669 --> 01:50:31,679
thought I deleted it because the
 

5263
01:50:31,679 --> 01:50:33,669
thought I deleted it because the
comments were inappropriate. It was

5264
01:50:33,669 --> 01:50:33,679
comments were inappropriate. It was
 

5265
01:50:33,679 --> 01:50:35,510
comments were inappropriate. It was
literally like a super popular video. I

5266
01:50:35,510 --> 01:50:35,520
literally like a super popular video. I
 

5267
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:37,189
literally like a super popular video. I
deleted it because I just thought it was

5268
01:50:37,189 --> 01:50:37,199
deleted it because I just thought it was
 

5269
01:50:37,199 --> 01:50:39,510
deleted it because I just thought it was
gross. And I I've delet like I I don't

5270
01:50:39,510 --> 01:50:39,520
gross. And I I've delet like I I don't
 

5271
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:41,189
gross. And I I've delet like I I don't
know. I unlisted a bunch of videos a

5272
01:50:41,189 --> 01:50:41,199
know. I unlisted a bunch of videos a
 

5273
01:50:41,199 --> 01:50:42,390
know. I unlisted a bunch of videos a
long time ago cuz I was just like I

5274
01:50:42,390 --> 01:50:42,400
long time ago cuz I was just like I
 

5275
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:43,189
long time ago cuz I was just like I
don't know. We're just kind of like

5276
01:50:43,189 --> 01:50:43,199
don't know. We're just kind of like
 

5277
01:50:43,199 --> 01:50:45,430
don't know. We're just kind of like
being immature. Like I don't really like

5278
01:50:45,430 --> 01:50:45,440
being immature. Like I don't really like
 

5279
01:50:45,440 --> 01:50:47,109
being immature. Like I don't really like
I didn't like showing a pile of five

5280
01:50:47,109 --> 01:50:47,119
I didn't like showing a pile of five
 

5281
01:50:47,119 --> 01:50:49,030
I didn't like showing a pile of five
dead raccoons on my channel that just

5282
01:50:49,030 --> 01:50:49,040
dead raccoons on my channel that just
 

5283
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:50,550
dead raccoons on my channel that just
wasn't professional. I was focusing on

5284
01:50:50,550 --> 01:50:50,560
wasn't professional. I was focusing on
 

5285
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:52,470
wasn't professional. I was focusing on
my music. So I unlisted a bunch of those

5286
01:50:52,470 --> 01:50:52,480
my music. So I unlisted a bunch of those
 

5287
01:50:52,480 --> 01:50:54,709
my music. So I unlisted a bunch of those
videos I just thought weren't really I

5288
01:50:54,709 --> 01:50:54,719
videos I just thought weren't really I
 

5289
01:50:54,719 --> 01:50:55,990
videos I just thought weren't really I
wouldn't want people to like go back and

5290
01:50:55,990 --> 01:50:56,000
wouldn't want people to like go back and
 

5291
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,149
wouldn't want people to like go back and
see now just for my own sake. Not

5292
01:50:58,149 --> 01:50:58,159
see now just for my own sake. Not
 

5293
01:50:58,159 --> 01:51:00,229
see now just for my own sake. Not
because I, you know, not because the

5294
01:51:00,229 --> 01:51:00,239
because I, you know, not because the
 

5295
01:51:00,239 --> 01:51:02,310
because I, you know, not because the
comments were like inappropriate of, oh,

5296
01:51:02,310 --> 01:51:02,320
comments were like inappropriate of, oh,
 

5297
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:04,070
comments were like inappropriate of, oh,
you know, Gabe's taking two young girls

5298
01:51:04,070 --> 01:51:04,080
you know, Gabe's taking two young girls
 

5299
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:06,669
you know, Gabe's taking two young girls
out in the woods. We were there for

5300
01:51:06,669 --> 01:51:06,679
out in the woods. We were there for
 

5301
01:51:06,679 --> 01:51:10,550
out in the woods. We were there for
probably an hour and it's 5 minutes away

5302
01:51:10,550 --> 01:51:10,560
probably an hour and it's 5 minutes away
 

5303
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:13,750
probably an hour and it's 5 minutes away
from my house. And both of our sets of

5304
01:51:13,750 --> 01:51:13,760
from my house. And both of our sets of
 

5305
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:16,390
from my house. And both of our sets of
parents would have approved it. And

5306
01:51:16,390 --> 01:51:16,400
parents would have approved it. And
 

5307
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,870
parents would have approved it. And
literally every other time Claire and

5308
01:51:18,870 --> 01:51:18,880
literally every other time Claire and
 

5309
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:20,229
literally every other time Claire and
Gabe would have ever seen each other

5310
01:51:20,229 --> 01:51:20,239
Gabe would have ever seen each other
 

5311
01:51:20,239 --> 01:51:23,910
Gabe would have ever seen each other
when Cla was a minor, parents and many

5312
01:51:23,910 --> 01:51:23,920
when Cla was a minor, parents and many
 

5313
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:25,669
when Cla was a minor, parents and many
other adults would have been around.

5314
01:51:25,669 --> 01:51:25,679
other adults would have been around.
 

5315
01:51:25,679 --> 01:51:27,990
other adults would have been around.
Every single time. That's the one video

5316
01:51:27,990 --> 01:51:28,000
Every single time. That's the one video
 

5317
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:30,229
Every single time. That's the one video
and they use that one single video that

5318
01:51:30,229 --> 01:51:30,239
and they use that one single video that
 

5319
01:51:30,239 --> 01:51:32,310
and they use that one single video that
I even deleted and they somehow found I

5320
01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:32,320
I even deleted and they somehow found I
 

5321
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:34,870
I even deleted and they somehow found I
don't know how as proof that they spent

5322
01:51:34,870 --> 01:51:34,880
don't know how as proof that they spent
 

5323
01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:37,109
don't know how as proof that they spent
time alone. It's completely untrue.

5324
01:51:37,109 --> 01:51:37,119
time alone. It's completely untrue.
 

5325
01:51:37,119 --> 01:51:39,589
time alone. It's completely untrue.
Completely untrue. Now, to some of you,

5326
01:51:39,589 --> 01:51:39,599
Completely untrue. Now, to some of you,
 

5327
01:51:39,599 --> 01:51:41,669
Completely untrue. Now, to some of you,
this might feel like new information or

5328
01:51:41,669 --> 01:51:41,679
this might feel like new information or
 

5329
01:51:41,679 --> 01:51:43,270
this might feel like new information or
flies in the face of what you've been

5330
01:51:43,270 --> 01:51:43,280
flies in the face of what you've been
 

5331
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:45,109
flies in the face of what you've been
told previously, but there's two things

5332
01:51:45,109 --> 01:51:45,119
told previously, but there's two things
 

5333
01:51:45,119 --> 01:51:47,510
told previously, but there's two things
I'd like you to keep in mind. Firstly,

5334
01:51:47,510 --> 01:51:47,520
I'd like you to keep in mind. Firstly,
 

5335
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,510
I'd like you to keep in mind. Firstly,
that the people who are going after this

5336
01:51:49,510 --> 01:51:49,520
that the people who are going after this
 

5337
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:52,550
that the people who are going after this
group are really dumb. One of the

5338
01:51:52,550 --> 01:51:52,560
group are really dumb. One of the
 

5339
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:56,390
group are really dumb. One of the
questions I had actually uh generally is

5340
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:56,400
questions I had actually uh generally is
 

5341
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,189
questions I had actually uh generally is
there's so much focus on Cla being

5342
01:51:59,189 --> 01:51:59,199
there's so much focus on Cla being
 

5343
01:51:59,199 --> 01:52:03,270
there's so much focus on Cla being
married to Gabe, but these sort of I

5344
01:52:03,270 --> 01:52:03,280
married to Gabe, but these sort of I
 

5345
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:04,950
married to Gabe, but these sort of I
don't know rumors or the way people

5346
01:52:04,950 --> 01:52:04,960
don't know rumors or the way people
 

5347
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:06,790
don't know rumors or the way people
thought about the relationship started

5348
01:52:06,790 --> 01:52:06,800
thought about the relationship started
 

5349
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:09,910
thought about the relationship started
with you. So, it's very interesting that

5350
01:52:09,910 --> 01:52:09,920
with you. So, it's very interesting that
 

5351
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:12,790
with you. So, it's very interesting that
they've focused in on Cla people. They

5352
01:52:12,790 --> 01:52:12,800
they've focused in on Cla people. They
 

5353
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:13,990
they've focused in on Cla people. They
seem to be going, well, we know this

5354
01:52:13,990 --> 01:52:14,000
seem to be going, well, we know this
 

5355
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:15,270
seem to be going, well, we know this
person, we care about this person, we

5356
01:52:15,270 --> 01:52:15,280
person, we care about this person, we
 

5357
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,430
person, we care about this person, we
want to save this person, and you who

5358
01:52:17,430 --> 01:52:17,440
want to save this person, and you who
 

5359
01:52:17,440 --> 01:52:18,709
want to save this person, and you who
were also involved kind of get

5360
01:52:18,709 --> 01:52:18,719
were also involved kind of get
 

5361
01:52:18,719 --> 01:52:21,030
were also involved kind of get
sidelined. And the fact that you barely

5362
01:52:21,030 --> 01:52:21,040
sidelined. And the fact that you barely
 

5363
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:22,709
sidelined. And the fact that you barely
you don't really know them or have any

5364
01:52:22,709 --> 01:52:22,719
you don't really know them or have any
 

5365
01:52:22,719 --> 01:52:24,310
you don't really know them or have any
interactions with them is almost a bit

5366
01:52:24,310 --> 01:52:24,320
interactions with them is almost a bit
 

5367
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:25,910
interactions with them is almost a bit
telling that but they're basically you I

5368
01:52:25,910 --> 01:52:25,920
telling that but they're basically you I
 

5369
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:27,189
telling that but they're basically you I
mean they're strangers essentially

5370
01:52:27,189 --> 01:52:27,199
mean they're strangers essentially
 

5371
01:52:27,199 --> 01:52:28,550
mean they're strangers essentially
they're strangers. I I know nothing

5372
01:52:28,550 --> 01:52:28,560
they're strangers. I I know nothing
 

5373
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:30,310
they're strangers. I I know nothing
about them. They know nothing about us,

5374
01:52:30,310 --> 01:52:30,320
about them. They know nothing about us,
 

5375
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:32,950
about them. They know nothing about us,
you know. Um maybe Claire's interacted

5376
01:52:32,950 --> 01:52:32,960
you know. Um maybe Claire's interacted
 

5377
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:34,709
you know. Um maybe Claire's interacted
with the specific people a couple more

5378
01:52:34,709 --> 01:52:34,719
with the specific people a couple more
 

5379
01:52:34,719 --> 01:52:36,550
with the specific people a couple more
times than me. It sounds she has more

5380
01:52:36,550 --> 01:52:36,560
times than me. It sounds she has more
 

5381
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:40,149
times than me. It sounds she has more
specific memories. But yeah. No, I mean

5382
01:52:40,149 --> 01:52:40,159
specific memories. But yeah. No, I mean
 

5383
01:52:40,159 --> 01:52:43,430
specific memories. But yeah. No, I mean
it is uh it is interesting too like how

5384
01:52:43,430 --> 01:52:43,440
it is uh it is interesting too like how
 

5385
01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:45,189
it is uh it is interesting too like how
many examples and stuff that people have

5386
01:52:45,189 --> 01:52:45,199
many examples and stuff that people have
 

5387
01:52:45,199 --> 01:52:47,109
many examples and stuff that people have
sent me like screenshots where like they

5388
01:52:47,109 --> 01:52:47,119
sent me like screenshots where like they
 

5389
01:52:47,119 --> 01:52:50,070
sent me like screenshots where like they
mix us up too. like it'll be it'll be

5390
01:52:50,070 --> 01:52:50,080
mix us up too. like it'll be it'll be
 

5391
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:52,790
mix us up too. like it'll be it'll be
some picture like 10 years ago or like

5392
01:52:52,790 --> 01:52:52,800
some picture like 10 years ago or like
 

5393
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:54,229
some picture like 10 years ago or like
they think it's gay but it's actually

5394
01:52:54,229 --> 01:52:54,239
they think it's gay but it's actually
 

5395
01:52:54,239 --> 01:52:56,870
they think it's gay but it's actually
like me with my short hair and Claire

5396
01:52:56,870 --> 01:52:56,880
like me with my short hair and Claire
 

5397
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:58,950
like me with my short hair and Claire
like just silly stuff like that. They

5398
01:52:58,950 --> 01:52:58,960
like just silly stuff like that. They
 

5399
01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:00,310
like just silly stuff like that. They
can't even tell us apart. It's

5400
01:53:00,310 --> 01:53:00,320
can't even tell us apart. It's
 

5401
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,790
can't even tell us apart. It's
hysterical. And secondly, until we

5402
01:53:02,790 --> 01:53:02,800
hysterical. And secondly, until we
 

5403
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:04,470
hysterical. And secondly, until we
reached out, no one has tried

5404
01:53:04,470 --> 01:53:04,480
reached out, no one has tried
 

5405
01:53:04,480 --> 01:53:06,390
reached out, no one has tried
interviewing these two women. And what

5406
01:53:06,390 --> 01:53:06,400
interviewing these two women. And what
 

5407
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:08,709
interviewing these two women. And what
makes that particularly insane is not

5408
01:53:08,709 --> 01:53:08,719
makes that particularly insane is not
 

5409
01:53:08,719 --> 01:53:10,790
makes that particularly insane is not
the level of incompetence on display.

5410
01:53:10,790 --> 01:53:10,800
the level of incompetence on display.
 

5411
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:12,870
the level of incompetence on display.
It's the fact that people like Amy New

5412
01:53:12,870 --> 01:53:12,880
It's the fact that people like Amy New
 

5413
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:15,589
It's the fact that people like Amy New
have direct lines to them and never

5414
01:53:15,589 --> 01:53:15,599
have direct lines to them and never
 

5415
01:53:15,599 --> 01:53:18,790
have direct lines to them and never
thought to ask. Since these new rumors

5416
01:53:18,790 --> 01:53:18,800
thought to ask. Since these new rumors
 

5417
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:20,149
thought to ask. Since these new rumors
have kicked up, we'll say, in the last

5418
01:53:20,149 --> 01:53:20,159
have kicked up, we'll say, in the last
 

5419
01:53:20,159 --> 01:53:22,270
have kicked up, we'll say, in the last
few years, or like the uh the

5420
01:53:22,270 --> 01:53:22,280
few years, or like the uh the
 

5421
01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:25,990
few years, or like the uh the
campaign against uh Black Griffin

5422
01:53:25,990 --> 01:53:26,000
campaign against uh Black Griffin
 

5423
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,070
campaign against uh Black Griffin
started, have people tried to actually

5424
01:53:28,070 --> 01:53:28,080
started, have people tried to actually
 

5425
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:30,310
started, have people tried to actually
approach you for your opinion on this or

5426
01:53:30,310 --> 01:53:30,320
approach you for your opinion on this or
 

5427
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:33,750
approach you for your opinion on this or
actually cared what you think? Because

5428
01:53:33,750 --> 01:53:33,760
actually cared what you think? Because
 

5429
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,550
actually cared what you think? Because
it appears with Cla, Cla's like, "No,

5430
01:53:36,550 --> 01:53:36,560
it appears with Cla, Cla's like, "No,
 

5431
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,550
it appears with Cla, Cla's like, "No,
this isn't happening. That's not the way

5432
01:53:38,550 --> 01:53:38,560
this isn't happening. That's not the way
 

5433
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:41,030
this isn't happening. That's not the way
any of this occurred. You're wrong." And

5434
01:53:41,030 --> 01:53:41,040
any of this occurred. You're wrong." And
 

5435
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:42,550
any of this occurred. You're wrong." And
people have gone, "Well, of course she

5436
01:53:42,550 --> 01:53:42,560
people have gone, "Well, of course she
 

5437
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:44,229
people have gone, "Well, of course she
thinks that. she's a victim and

5438
01:53:44,229 --> 01:53:44,239
thinks that. she's a victim and
 

5439
01:53:44,239 --> 01:53:45,990
thinks that. she's a victim and
protecting her husband and now she's

5440
01:53:45,990 --> 01:53:46,000
protecting her husband and now she's
 

5441
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:48,550
protecting her husband and now she's
evil. Um, have you sort of experienced

5442
01:53:48,550 --> 01:53:48,560
evil. Um, have you sort of experienced
 

5443
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:50,709
evil. Um, have you sort of experienced
similar stuff or does or have you just

5444
01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:50,719
similar stuff or does or have you just
 

5445
01:53:50,719 --> 01:53:53,669
similar stuff or does or have you just
been sort of sidelined?

5446
01:53:53,669 --> 01:53:53,679
been sort of sidelined?
 

5447
01:53:53,679 --> 01:53:55,270
been sort of sidelined?
And no one's ever asked us, you know, if

5448
01:53:55,270 --> 01:53:55,280
And no one's ever asked us, you know, if
 

5449
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:57,030
And no one's ever asked us, you know, if
these people actually were concerned

5450
01:53:57,030 --> 01:53:57,040
these people actually were concerned
 

5451
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:58,629
these people actually were concerned
that we were taken advantage of as

5452
01:53:58,629 --> 01:53:58,639
that we were taken advantage of as
 

5453
01:53:58,639 --> 01:54:01,030
that we were taken advantage of as
minors. They've never asked us. They

5454
01:54:01,030 --> 01:54:01,040
minors. They've never asked us. They
 

5455
01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:02,950
minors. They've never asked us. They
they claim to know us. They could have,

5456
01:54:02,950 --> 01:54:02,960
they claim to know us. They could have,
 

5457
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:04,070
they claim to know us. They could have,
what do you do? Do you think you have

5458
01:54:04,070 --> 01:54:04,080
what do you do? Do you think you have
 

5459
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,470
what do you do? Do you think you have
our phone number, our email? Like, you

5460
01:54:06,470 --> 01:54:06,480
our phone number, our email? Like, you
 

5461
01:54:06,480 --> 01:54:08,709
our phone number, our email? Like, you
know, we have peers in common. We have

5462
01:54:08,709 --> 01:54:08,719
know, we have peers in common. We have
 

5463
01:54:08,719 --> 01:54:10,149
know, we have peers in common. We have
colleagues in common. You really that

5464
01:54:10,149 --> 01:54:10,159
colleagues in common. You really that
 

5465
01:54:10,159 --> 01:54:13,189
colleagues in common. You really that
concerned about us? like it's it's

5466
01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:13,199
concerned about us? like it's it's
 

5467
01:54:13,199 --> 01:54:15,550
concerned about us? like it's it's
insulting.

5468
01:54:15,550 --> 01:54:15,560
insulting.
 

5469
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:18,629
insulting.
It's we're we're 25-year-old adults and

5470
01:54:18,629 --> 01:54:18,639
It's we're we're 25-year-old adults and
 

5471
01:54:18,639 --> 01:54:20,950
It's we're we're 25-year-old adults and
frankly they don't have any idea how

5472
01:54:20,950 --> 01:54:20,960
frankly they don't have any idea how
 

5473
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:23,030
frankly they don't have any idea how
young we had to become adults as well.

5474
01:54:23,030 --> 01:54:23,040
young we had to become adults as well.
 

5475
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:25,910
young we had to become adults as well.
So you want to treat us like fully, you

5476
01:54:25,910 --> 01:54:25,920
So you want to treat us like fully, you
 

5477
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:28,229
So you want to treat us like fully, you
know, professional people at the age of

5478
01:54:28,229 --> 01:54:28,239
know, professional people at the age of
 

5479
01:54:28,239 --> 01:54:31,189
know, professional people at the age of
13, paying taxes and like doing all this

5480
01:54:31,189 --> 01:54:31,199
13, paying taxes and like doing all this
 

5481
01:54:31,199 --> 01:54:32,870
13, paying taxes and like doing all this
stuff, having full careers for already,

5482
01:54:32,870 --> 01:54:32,880
stuff, having full careers for already,
 

5483
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:35,830
stuff, having full careers for already,
you know, five plus years and yet we're

5484
01:54:35,830 --> 01:54:35,840
you know, five plus years and yet we're
 

5485
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:37,750
you know, five plus years and yet we're
too immature to know our own

5486
01:54:37,750 --> 01:54:37,760
too immature to know our own
 

5487
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:40,070
too immature to know our own
circumstances and our own past and

5488
01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:40,080
circumstances and our own past and
 

5489
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:42,510
circumstances and our own past and
present. It's Yeah, it's

5490
01:54:42,510 --> 01:54:42,520
present. It's Yeah, it's
 

5491
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:45,510
present. It's Yeah, it's
varied. I mean, again, if there weren't

5492
01:54:45,510 --> 01:54:45,520
varied. I mean, again, if there weren't
 

5493
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:46,990
varied. I mean, again, if there weren't
all these

5494
01:54:46,990 --> 01:54:47,000
all these
 

5495
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:50,709
all these
ramifications for Gab's career, none of

5496
01:54:50,709 --> 01:54:50,719
ramifications for Gab's career, none of
 

5497
01:54:50,719 --> 01:54:52,390
ramifications for Gab's career, none of
us would care at all. That's why none of

5498
01:54:52,390 --> 01:54:52,400
us would care at all. That's why none of
 

5499
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:53,910
us would care at all. That's why none of
us have like talked about it for the

5500
01:54:53,910 --> 01:54:53,920
us have like talked about it for the
 

5501
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:55,030
us have like talked about it for the
longest time because it's always just

5502
01:54:55,030 --> 01:54:55,040
longest time because it's always just
 

5503
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:58,390
longest time because it's always just
garbage. You know, why it I'm not I'm

5504
01:54:58,390 --> 01:54:58,400
garbage. You know, why it I'm not I'm
 

5505
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:00,229
garbage. You know, why it I'm not I'm
not going to be offended by something

5506
01:55:00,229 --> 01:55:00,239
not going to be offended by something
 

5507
01:55:00,239 --> 01:55:01,830
not going to be offended by something
someone says if I don't know them. You

5508
01:55:01,830 --> 01:55:01,840
someone says if I don't know them. You
 

5509
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:03,589
someone says if I don't know them. You
know, I don't value your opinion. I I

5510
01:55:03,589 --> 01:55:03,599
know, I don't value your opinion. I I
 

5511
01:55:03,599 --> 01:55:06,510
know, I don't value your opinion. I I
don't I don't I don't know you.

5512
01:55:06,510 --> 01:55:06,520
don't I don't I don't know you.
 

5513
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:09,430
don't I don't I don't know you.
So only now, I mean, this is probably

5514
01:55:09,430 --> 01:55:09,440
So only now, I mean, this is probably
 

5515
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:10,790
So only now, I mean, this is probably
the honestly the last time I'm going to

5516
01:55:10,790 --> 01:55:10,800
the honestly the last time I'm going to
 

5517
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:12,629
the honestly the last time I'm going to
talk about it is with you guys, cuz I I

5518
01:55:12,629 --> 01:55:12,639
talk about it is with you guys, cuz I I
 

5519
01:55:12,639 --> 01:55:14,950
talk about it is with you guys, cuz I I
appreciate that you're the first people

5520
01:55:14,950 --> 01:55:14,960
appreciate that you're the first people
 

5521
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:16,310
appreciate that you're the first people
I've seen that are actually trying to

5522
01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:16,320
I've seen that are actually trying to
 

5523
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:19,589
I've seen that are actually trying to
get to the bottom of this. Um, but we

5524
01:55:19,589 --> 01:55:19,599
get to the bottom of this. Um, but we
 

5525
01:55:19,599 --> 01:55:21,189
get to the bottom of this. Um, but we
all just want to move on. I mean, we're

5526
01:55:21,189 --> 01:55:21,199
all just want to move on. I mean, we're
 

5527
01:55:21,199 --> 01:55:23,830
all just want to move on. I mean, we're
we're digging up our lives from 10 plus

5528
01:55:23,830 --> 01:55:23,840
we're digging up our lives from 10 plus
 

5529
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:25,750
we're digging up our lives from 10 plus
years ago because these people who have

5530
01:55:25,750 --> 01:55:25,760
years ago because these people who have
 

5531
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:28,070
years ago because these people who have
never even met us claim to know what's

5532
01:55:28,070 --> 01:55:28,080
never even met us claim to know what's
 

5533
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,470
never even met us claim to know what's
happened in our lives, but don't take

5534
01:55:30,470 --> 01:55:30,480
happened in our lives, but don't take
 

5535
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:33,430
happened in our lives, but don't take
any weight in our perspective. After all

5536
01:55:33,430 --> 01:55:33,440
any weight in our perspective. After all
 

5537
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,750
any weight in our perspective. After all
this time and effort spent silencing

5538
01:55:35,750 --> 01:55:35,760
this time and effort spent silencing
 

5539
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:37,350
this time and effort spent silencing
people who were actually involved in

5540
01:55:37,350 --> 01:55:37,360
people who were actually involved in
 

5541
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:39,589
people who were actually involved in
speaking for the potential victims of

5542
01:55:39,589 --> 01:55:39,599
speaking for the potential victims of
 

5543
01:55:39,599 --> 01:55:41,589
speaking for the potential victims of
Black Griffin, Brony Fando must have

5544
01:55:41,589 --> 01:55:41,599
Black Griffin, Brony Fando must have
 

5545
01:55:41,599 --> 01:55:43,830
Black Griffin, Brony Fando must have
been jumping for joy when Courtney Pete

5546
01:55:43,830 --> 01:55:43,840
been jumping for joy when Courtney Pete
 

5547
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:45,750
been jumping for joy when Courtney Pete
was making a video and then Lazy

5548
01:55:45,750 --> 01:55:45,760
was making a video and then Lazy
 

5549
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:48,470
was making a video and then Lazy
Bedhead. And then comes KP and

5550
01:55:48,470 --> 01:55:48,480
Bedhead. And then comes KP and
 

5551
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:51,510
Bedhead. And then comes KP and
allegations against Sabre. Man, April

5552
01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:51,520
allegations against Sabre. Man, April
 

5553
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:53,189
allegations against Sabre. Man, April
must have looked like a very good month

5554
01:55:53,189 --> 01:55:53,199
must have looked like a very good month
 

5555
01:55:53,199 --> 01:55:56,550
must have looked like a very good month
for Fandote. But then everything begins

5556
01:55:56,550 --> 01:55:56,560
for Fandote. But then everything begins
 

5557
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:59,189
for Fandote. But then everything begins
to fall apart. Fand had wanted the

5558
01:55:59,189 --> 01:55:59,199
to fall apart. Fand had wanted the
 

5559
01:55:59,199 --> 01:56:01,750
to fall apart. Fand had wanted the
spotlight. He wanted attention. And when

5560
01:56:01,750 --> 01:56:01,760
spotlight. He wanted attention. And when
 

5561
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:04,310
spotlight. He wanted attention. And when
he finally got it, well, that monkey paw

5562
01:56:04,310 --> 01:56:04,320
he finally got it, well, that monkey paw
 

5563
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:06,470
he finally got it, well, that monkey paw
curled in a very particular way. So,

5564
01:56:06,470 --> 01:56:06,480
curled in a very particular way. So,
 

5565
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:07,910
curled in a very particular way. So,
let's have a look at the fallout from

5566
01:56:07,910 --> 01:56:07,920
let's have a look at the fallout from
 

5567
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:12,109
let's have a look at the fallout from
his side and um his interesting

5568
01:56:12,109 --> 01:56:12,119
his side and um his interesting
 

5569
01:56:12,119 --> 01:56:14,550
his side and um his interesting
reactions. We've already gone over much

5570
01:56:14,550 --> 01:56:14,560
reactions. We've already gone over much
 

5571
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:17,750
reactions. We've already gone over much
of Fand's reactions to KP directly, but

5572
01:56:17,750 --> 01:56:17,760
of Fand's reactions to KP directly, but
 

5573
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:19,750
of Fand's reactions to KP directly, but
it bears repeating that the first public

5574
01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:19,760
it bears repeating that the first public
 

5575
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:21,589
it bears repeating that the first public
statement from the Fandone account came

5576
01:56:21,589 --> 01:56:21,599
statement from the Fandone account came
 

5577
01:56:21,599 --> 01:56:24,470
statement from the Fandone account came
from Sophie, not from Bonk. Bonk's

5578
01:56:24,470 --> 01:56:24,480
from Sophie, not from Bonk. Bonk's
 

5579
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:26,229
from Sophie, not from Bonk. Bonk's
concern lay primarily in the fact that

5580
01:56:26,229 --> 01:56:26,239
concern lay primarily in the fact that
 

5581
01:56:26,239 --> 01:56:28,149
concern lay primarily in the fact that
he realized quite quickly that this

5582
01:56:28,149 --> 01:56:28,159
he realized quite quickly that this
 

5583
01:56:28,159 --> 01:56:30,070
he realized quite quickly that this
video might be damaging to the

5584
01:56:30,070 --> 01:56:30,080
video might be damaging to the
 

5585
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:32,390
video might be damaging to the
accusations against Saber Spark and DA

5586
01:56:32,390 --> 01:56:32,400
accusations against Saber Spark and DA
 

5587
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:34,709
accusations against Saber Spark and DA
Games. While he says that he doesn't

5588
01:56:34,709 --> 01:56:34,719
Games. While he says that he doesn't
 

5589
01:56:34,719 --> 01:56:36,950
Games. While he says that he doesn't
want to [\h__\h] on KP and just get people

5590
01:56:36,950 --> 01:56:36,960
want to [\h__\h] on KP and just get people
 

5591
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:38,790
want to [\h__\h] on KP and just get people
to hate on her, it wouldn't take long

5592
01:56:38,790 --> 01:56:38,800
to hate on her, it wouldn't take long
 

5593
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:40,790
to hate on her, it wouldn't take long
before the pressure really started to

5594
01:56:40,790 --> 01:56:40,800
before the pressure really started to
 

5595
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:42,390
before the pressure really started to
get to him. Now, we're going to skip

5596
01:56:42,390 --> 01:56:42,400
get to him. Now, we're going to skip
 

5597
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:43,910
get to him. Now, we're going to skip
ahead a bit to when things get

5598
01:56:43,910 --> 01:56:43,920
ahead a bit to when things get
 

5599
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:46,550
ahead a bit to when things get
interesting around the 12th because as

5600
01:56:46,550 --> 01:56:46,560
interesting around the 12th because as
 

5601
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:47,910
interesting around the 12th because as
things had been moving behind the

5602
01:56:47,910 --> 01:56:47,920
things had been moving behind the
 

5603
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:50,629
things had been moving behind the
scenes, Bonk wasn't idle. He'd been

5604
01:56:50,629 --> 01:56:50,639
scenes, Bonk wasn't idle. He'd been
 

5605
01:56:50,639 --> 01:56:52,790
scenes, Bonk wasn't idle. He'd been
plotting with Emily to save the sinking

5606
01:56:52,790 --> 01:56:52,800
plotting with Emily to save the sinking
 

5607
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,030
plotting with Emily to save the sinking
ship, becoming increasingly confident

5608
01:56:55,030 --> 01:56:55,040
ship, becoming increasingly confident
 

5609
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:57,669
ship, becoming increasingly confident
that once KP was out of the way, he'd be

5610
01:56:57,669 --> 01:56:57,679
that once KP was out of the way, he'd be
 

5611
01:56:57,679 --> 01:57:00,149
that once KP was out of the way, he'd be
able to emerge the hero. This would all

5612
01:57:00,149 --> 01:57:00,159
able to emerge the hero. This would all
 

5613
01:57:00,159 --> 01:57:03,510
able to emerge the hero. This would all
come to a screeching halt, however, when

5614
01:57:03,510 --> 01:57:03,520
come to a screeching halt, however, when
 

5615
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:07,350
come to a screeching halt, however, when
Saber Spark released his response. Sabre

5616
01:57:07,350 --> 01:57:07,360
Saber Spark released his response. Sabre
 

5617
01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:09,910
Saber Spark released his response. Sabre
again has denied these accusations, but

5618
01:57:09,910 --> 01:57:09,920
again has denied these accusations, but
 

5619
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:11,830
again has denied these accusations, but
more importantly, the video isn't

5620
01:57:11,830 --> 01:57:11,840
more importantly, the video isn't
 

5621
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,149
more importantly, the video isn't
addressed to Emily, focusing more

5622
01:57:14,149 --> 01:57:14,159
addressed to Emily, focusing more
 

5623
01:57:14,159 --> 01:57:17,030
addressed to Emily, focusing more
towards KP and Fan don't and their

5624
01:57:17,030 --> 01:57:17,040
towards KP and Fan don't and their
 

5625
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:20,229
towards KP and Fan don't and their
devious little schemes. Van at this

5626
01:57:20,229 --> 01:57:20,239
devious little schemes. Van at this
 

5627
01:57:20,239 --> 01:57:22,790
devious little schemes. Van at this
point predictably panics saying the

5628
01:57:22,790 --> 01:57:22,800
point predictably panics saying the
 

5629
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:24,390
point predictably panics saying the
response would be coming within the next

5630
01:57:24,390 --> 01:57:24,400
response would be coming within the next
 

5631
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:27,669
response would be coming within the next
few hours. This response would not come.

5632
01:57:27,669 --> 01:57:27,679
few hours. This response would not come.
 

5633
01:57:27,679 --> 01:57:30,149
few hours. This response would not come.
Most hilariously he said that he was

5634
01:57:30,149 --> 01:57:30,159
Most hilariously he said that he was
 

5635
01:57:30,159 --> 01:57:32,709
Most hilariously he said that he was
documenting other people's responses

5636
01:57:32,709 --> 01:57:32,719
documenting other people's responses
 

5637
01:57:32,719 --> 01:57:34,550
documenting other people's responses
which further made him a complete

5638
01:57:34,550 --> 01:57:34,560
which further made him a complete
 

5639
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:37,030
which further made him a complete
[\h__\h] laughingstock and this would

5640
01:57:37,030 --> 01:57:37,040
[\h__\h] laughingstock and this would
 

5641
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:38,950
[\h__\h] laughingstock and this would
just be the beginning of what turned

5642
01:57:38,950 --> 01:57:38,960
just be the beginning of what turned
 

5643
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:43,030
just be the beginning of what turned
into a god tier crash out. Fandome would

5644
01:57:43,030 --> 01:57:43,040
into a god tier crash out. Fandome would
 

5645
01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:44,390
into a god tier crash out. Fandome would
blame this lack of response on an

5646
01:57:44,390 --> 01:57:44,400
blame this lack of response on an
 

5647
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:46,470
blame this lack of response on an
unnamed drama channel. At the time I

5648
01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:46,480
unnamed drama channel. At the time I
 

5649
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:47,990
unnamed drama channel. At the time I
thought this was probably me. It might

5650
01:57:47,990 --> 01:57:48,000
thought this was probably me. It might
 

5651
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:50,149
thought this was probably me. It might
also be OP block because I do know from

5652
01:57:50,149 --> 01:57:50,159
also be OP block because I do know from
 

5653
01:57:50,159 --> 01:57:52,709
also be OP block because I do know from
her DM she was watching his streams, but

5654
01:57:52,709 --> 01:57:52,719
her DM she was watching his streams, but
 

5655
01:57:52,719 --> 01:57:55,669
her DM she was watching his streams, but
I am named in KP's unhinged voicemail.

5656
01:57:55,669 --> 01:57:55,679
I am named in KP's unhinged voicemail.
 

5657
01:57:55,679 --> 01:57:57,990
I am named in KP's unhinged voicemail.
I'd said to KP that we had very good

5658
01:57:57,990 --> 01:57:58,000
I'd said to KP that we had very good
 

5659
01:57:58,000 --> 01:57:59,910
I'd said to KP that we had very good
evidence that it was Emmy and she should

5660
01:57:59,910 --> 01:57:59,920
evidence that it was Emmy and she should
 

5661
01:57:59,920 --> 01:58:02,310
evidence that it was Emmy and she should
talk to me or at least somebody at this

5662
01:58:02,310 --> 01:58:02,320
talk to me or at least somebody at this
 

5663
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:04,830
talk to me or at least somebody at this
point given what was unfolding with the

5664
01:58:04,830 --> 01:58:04,840
point given what was unfolding with the
 

5665
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:07,229
point given what was unfolding with the
situation. Either way, [\h__\h]

5666
01:58:07,229 --> 01:58:07,239
situation. Either way, [\h__\h]
 

5667
01:58:07,239 --> 01:58:09,669
situation. Either way, [\h__\h]
hilarious. Now, at time of recording,

5668
01:58:09,669 --> 01:58:09,679
hilarious. Now, at time of recording,
 

5669
01:58:09,679 --> 01:58:11,669
hilarious. Now, at time of recording,
the Brony Fandone account is locked,

5670
01:58:11,669 --> 01:58:11,679
the Brony Fandone account is locked,
 

5671
01:58:11,679 --> 01:58:13,270
the Brony Fandone account is locked,
which makes me very grateful for

5672
01:58:13,270 --> 01:58:13,280
which makes me very grateful for
 

5673
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:15,669
which makes me very grateful for
channels like Internet Versus. Because

5674
01:58:15,669 --> 01:58:15,679
channels like Internet Versus. Because
 

5675
01:58:15,679 --> 01:58:17,750
channels like Internet Versus. Because
this lack of a further statement from

5676
01:58:17,750 --> 01:58:17,760
this lack of a further statement from
 

5677
01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:20,149
this lack of a further statement from
Emmy seems to have seriously messed with

5678
01:58:20,149 --> 01:58:20,159
Emmy seems to have seriously messed with
 

5679
01:58:20,159 --> 01:58:23,270
Emmy seems to have seriously messed with
Fandon's plans, he'd begin wildly

5680
01:58:23,270 --> 01:58:23,280
Fandon's plans, he'd begin wildly
 

5681
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:26,149
Fandon's plans, he'd begin wildly
lashing out at everyone from KP to Lazy

5682
01:58:26,149 --> 01:58:26,159
lashing out at everyone from KP to Lazy
 

5683
01:58:26,159 --> 01:58:28,470
lashing out at everyone from KP to Lazy
Bed Head, saying he didn't want to hand

5684
01:58:28,470 --> 01:58:28,480
Bed Head, saying he didn't want to hand
 

5685
01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:30,709
Bed Head, saying he didn't want to hand
over power to people like OPLock. When

5686
01:58:30,709 --> 01:58:30,719
over power to people like OPLock. When
 

5687
01:58:30,719 --> 01:58:32,870
over power to people like OPLock. When
this didn't work, he basically conceds

5688
01:58:32,870 --> 01:58:32,880
this didn't work, he basically conceds
 

5689
01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:36,310
this didn't work, he basically conceds
defeat and moves to a Hail Mary play.

5690
01:58:36,310 --> 01:58:36,320
defeat and moves to a Hail Mary play.
 

5691
01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:38,070
defeat and moves to a Hail Mary play.
Now, one thing you should know about

5692
01:58:38,070 --> 01:58:38,080
Now, one thing you should know about
 

5693
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:41,510
Now, one thing you should know about
Bonk is at the slightest pressure, this

5694
01:58:41,510 --> 01:58:41,520
Bonk is at the slightest pressure, this
 

5695
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:43,189
Bonk is at the slightest pressure, this
guy will say that he's going to end

5696
01:58:43,189 --> 01:58:43,199
guy will say that he's going to end
 

5697
01:58:43,199 --> 01:58:45,990
guy will say that he's going to end
himself. So, against the current insane

5698
01:58:45,990 --> 01:58:46,000
himself. So, against the current insane
 

5699
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:48,350
himself. So, against the current insane
tirade against him, this ramped up

5700
01:58:48,350 --> 01:58:48,360
tirade against him, this ramped up
 

5701
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:50,950
tirade against him, this ramped up
significantly as he posted a link to a

5702
01:58:50,950 --> 01:58:50,960
significantly as he posted a link to a
 

5703
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:53,109
significantly as he posted a link to a
Twitch stream in which he's walking in

5704
01:58:53,109 --> 01:58:53,119
Twitch stream in which he's walking in
 

5705
01:58:53,119 --> 01:58:56,790
Twitch stream in which he's walking in
the rain. Now, I want to be a touch

5706
01:58:56,790 --> 01:58:56,800
the rain. Now, I want to be a touch
 

5707
01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:59,109
the rain. Now, I want to be a touch
sensitive here, not in deference to fan

5708
01:58:59,109 --> 01:58:59,119
sensitive here, not in deference to fan
 

5709
01:58:59,119 --> 01:59:01,350
sensitive here, not in deference to fan
don't, but this is a topic that touches

5710
01:59:01,350 --> 01:59:01,360
don't, but this is a topic that touches
 

5711
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:03,350
don't, but this is a topic that touches
a lot of people's lives, unfortunately,

5712
01:59:03,350 --> 01:59:03,360
a lot of people's lives, unfortunately,
 

5713
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:06,310
a lot of people's lives, unfortunately,
myself included. For that reason, I take

5714
01:59:06,310 --> 01:59:06,320
myself included. For that reason, I take
 

5715
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:08,950
myself included. For that reason, I take
stuff like this pretty seriously, and I

5716
01:59:08,950 --> 01:59:08,960
stuff like this pretty seriously, and I
 

5717
01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:11,270
stuff like this pretty seriously, and I
get really angry when I think people are

5718
01:59:11,270 --> 01:59:11,280
get really angry when I think people are
 

5719
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:14,070
get really angry when I think people are
baiting this [\h__\h] for sympathy. Rather,

5720
01:59:14,070 --> 01:59:14,080
baiting this [\h__\h] for sympathy. Rather,
 

5721
01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:15,910
baiting this [\h__\h] for sympathy. Rather,
I'd like to focus on the actions of

5722
01:59:15,910 --> 01:59:15,920
I'd like to focus on the actions of
 

5723
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:17,990
I'd like to focus on the actions of
others because despite the [\h__\h] that

5724
01:59:17,990 --> 01:59:18,000
others because despite the [\h__\h] that
 

5725
01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:20,149
others because despite the [\h__\h] that
Bonk has pulled, there was almost

5726
01:59:20,149 --> 01:59:20,159
Bonk has pulled, there was almost
 

5727
01:59:20,159 --> 01:59:22,790
Bonk has pulled, there was almost
universal concern for his well-being.

5728
01:59:22,790 --> 01:59:22,800
universal concern for his well-being.
 

5729
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:24,790
universal concern for his well-being.
Multiple people would phone wellness

5730
01:59:24,790 --> 01:59:24,800
Multiple people would phone wellness
 

5731
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:26,870
Multiple people would phone wellness
checks, giving out landmarks and

5732
01:59:26,870 --> 01:59:26,880
checks, giving out landmarks and
 

5733
01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:28,950
checks, giving out landmarks and
identifying information to try and help

5734
01:59:28,950 --> 01:59:28,960
identifying information to try and help
 

5735
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:31,430
identifying information to try and help
the police track this guy down and stop

5736
01:59:31,430 --> 01:59:31,440
the police track this guy down and stop
 

5737
01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:33,990
the police track this guy down and stop
him harming himself. Even Sophie would

5738
01:59:33,990 --> 01:59:34,000
him harming himself. Even Sophie would
 

5739
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:36,070
him harming himself. Even Sophie would
apparently do the right thing, taking

5740
01:59:36,070 --> 01:59:36,080
apparently do the right thing, taking
 

5741
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:38,310
apparently do the right thing, taking
access to the account away from Bonk and

5742
01:59:38,310 --> 01:59:38,320
access to the account away from Bonk and
 

5743
01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:40,629
access to the account away from Bonk and
locking it. And this wasn't just from

5744
01:59:40,629 --> 01:59:40,639
locking it. And this wasn't just from
 

5745
01:59:40,639 --> 01:59:43,750
locking it. And this wasn't just from
his friends. Angry Slug and Lio both

5746
01:59:43,750 --> 01:59:43,760
his friends. Angry Slug and Lio both
 

5747
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:46,310
his friends. Angry Slug and Lio both
made serious efforts to try and protect

5748
01:59:46,310 --> 01:59:46,320
made serious efforts to try and protect
 

5749
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:48,790
made serious efforts to try and protect
this guy. The actual wellness check that

5750
01:59:48,790 --> 01:59:48,800
this guy. The actual wellness check that
 

5751
01:59:48,800 --> 01:59:50,470
this guy. The actual wellness check that
did the trick apparently came from

5752
01:59:50,470 --> 01:59:50,480
did the trick apparently came from
 

5753
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:52,390
did the trick apparently came from
Barger, somebody who was friends with

5754
01:59:52,390 --> 01:59:52,400
Barger, somebody who was friends with
 

5755
01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:54,310
Barger, somebody who was friends with
Bonk, but had fallen out with him over

5756
01:59:54,310 --> 01:59:54,320
Bonk, but had fallen out with him over
 

5757
01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:56,790
Bonk, but had fallen out with him over
his insane takes on pornography. And

5758
01:59:56,790 --> 01:59:56,800
his insane takes on pornography. And
 

5759
01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:58,790
his insane takes on pornography. And
that's largely the last we've heard of

5760
01:59:58,790 --> 01:59:58,800
that's largely the last we've heard of
 

5761
01:59:58,800 --> 02:00:00,790
that's largely the last we've heard of
Bonk for the moment. He's apparently in

5762
02:00:00,790 --> 02:00:00,800
Bonk for the moment. He's apparently in
 

5763
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:03,189
Bonk for the moment. He's apparently in
some kind of medical care, which, let's

5764
02:00:03,189 --> 02:00:03,199
some kind of medical care, which, let's
 

5765
02:00:03,199 --> 02:00:05,589
some kind of medical care, which, let's
be honest, he desperately, desperately

5766
02:00:05,589 --> 02:00:05,599
be honest, he desperately, desperately
 

5767
02:00:05,599 --> 02:00:08,149
be honest, he desperately, desperately
needs. But before finishing up with this

5768
02:00:08,149 --> 02:00:08,159
needs. But before finishing up with this
 

5769
02:00:08,159 --> 02:00:10,550
needs. But before finishing up with this
freak, again, I'd like you to hear Cla's

5770
02:00:10,550 --> 02:00:10,560
freak, again, I'd like you to hear Cla's
 

5771
02:00:10,560 --> 02:00:12,390
freak, again, I'd like you to hear Cla's
thoughts on the guy who's been harassing

5772
02:00:12,390 --> 02:00:12,400
thoughts on the guy who's been harassing
 

5773
02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:14,470
thoughts on the guy who's been harassing
her for years. I think it also moves us

5774
02:00:14,470 --> 02:00:14,480
her for years. I think it also moves us
 

5775
02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:17,109
her for years. I think it also moves us
quite nicely on to

5776
02:00:17,109 --> 02:00:17,119
quite nicely on to
 

5777
02:00:17,119 --> 02:00:20,830
quite nicely on to
actually

5778
02:00:20,830 --> 02:00:20,840

 

5779
02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:24,270

very interesting individual.

5780
02:00:24,270 --> 02:00:24,280
very interesting individual.
 

5781
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:28,149
very interesting individual.
He started off by being and again like I

5782
02:00:28,149 --> 02:00:28,159
He started off by being and again like I
 

5783
02:00:28,159 --> 02:00:30,629
He started off by being and again like I
have no problem answering people's

5784
02:00:30,629 --> 02:00:30,639
have no problem answering people's
 

5785
02:00:30,639 --> 02:00:33,430
have no problem answering people's
questions if they're genuinely asking me

5786
02:00:33,430 --> 02:00:33,440
questions if they're genuinely asking me
 

5787
02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:37,030
questions if they're genuinely asking me
a question or if they start which he did

5788
02:00:37,030 --> 02:00:37,040
a question or if they start which he did
 

5789
02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:40,149
a question or if they start which he did
by saying this is a a situation I'm

5790
02:00:40,149 --> 02:00:40,159
by saying this is a a situation I'm
 

5791
02:00:40,159 --> 02:00:43,510
by saying this is a a situation I'm
bringing to light has been groomed by

5792
02:00:43,510 --> 02:00:43,520
bringing to light has been groomed by
 

5793
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:45,990
bringing to light has been groomed by
black Griffin also known as Gabriel

5794
02:00:45,990 --> 02:00:46,000
black Griffin also known as Gabriel
 

5795
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:48,310
black Griffin also known as Gabriel
Brown and everybody should know about

5796
02:00:48,310 --> 02:00:48,320
Brown and everybody should know about
 

5797
02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:50,229
Brown and everybody should know about
it. and he proceeded with this whole

5798
02:00:50,229 --> 02:00:50,239
it. and he proceeded with this whole
 

5799
02:00:50,239 --> 02:00:52,629
it. and he proceeded with this whole
long thread and I read it and I was

5800
02:00:52,629 --> 02:00:52,639
long thread and I read it and I was
 

5801
02:00:52,639 --> 02:00:54,310
long thread and I read it and I was
like, "Oh, this is hilarious." Like

5802
02:00:54,310 --> 02:00:54,320
like, "Oh, this is hilarious." Like
 

5803
02:00:54,320 --> 02:00:56,870
like, "Oh, this is hilarious." Like
surely people are not, you know, gonna

5804
02:00:56,870 --> 02:00:56,880
surely people are not, you know, gonna
 

5805
02:00:56,880 --> 02:01:00,390
surely people are not, you know, gonna
bite on this. And then I saw that like

5806
02:01:00,390 --> 02:01:00,400
bite on this. And then I saw that like
 

5807
02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:02,310
bite on this. And then I saw that like
enough people were that it started to

5808
02:01:02,310 --> 02:01:02,320
enough people were that it started to
 

5809
02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:03,669
enough people were that it started to
kind of annoy me and I was like, "What

5810
02:01:03,669 --> 02:01:03,679
kind of annoy me and I was like, "What
 

5811
02:01:03,679 --> 02:01:06,149
kind of annoy me and I was like, "What
the heck?" So I was like, "Listen, this

5812
02:01:06,149 --> 02:01:06,159
the heck?" So I was like, "Listen, this
 

5813
02:01:06,159 --> 02:01:08,310
the heck?" So I was like, "Listen, this
guy's like clearly he's been in the My

5814
02:01:08,310 --> 02:01:08,320
guy's like clearly he's been in the My
 

5815
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:11,390
guy's like clearly he's been in the My
Little Pony fandom for a long time. he

5816
02:01:11,390 --> 02:01:11,400
Little Pony fandom for a long time. he
 

5817
02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:16,550
Little Pony fandom for a long time. he
definitely knows who I am. And so I feel

5818
02:01:16,550 --> 02:01:16,560
definitely knows who I am. And so I feel
 

5819
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:18,470
definitely knows who I am. And so I feel
like I should, you know, kind of make

5820
02:01:18,470 --> 02:01:18,480
like I should, you know, kind of make
 

5821
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:20,709
like I should, you know, kind of make
communication with him. And I did. And I

5822
02:01:20,709 --> 02:01:20,719
communication with him. And I did. And I
 

5823
02:01:20,719 --> 02:01:23,030
communication with him. And I did. And I
said, "Hey man, like basically this is,

5824
02:01:23,030 --> 02:01:23,040
said, "Hey man, like basically this is,
 

5825
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:24,550
said, "Hey man, like basically this is,
you know, I appreciate the sentiment. I

5826
02:01:24,550 --> 02:01:24,560
you know, I appreciate the sentiment. I
 

5827
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:27,910
you know, I appreciate the sentiment. I
I'm I'm I'm okay. Uh what you think is

5828
02:01:27,910 --> 02:01:27,920
I'm I'm I'm okay. Uh what you think is
 

5829
02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:30,709
I'm I'm I'm okay. Uh what you think is
happening is not happening. Um it didn't

5830
02:01:30,709 --> 02:01:30,719
happening is not happening. Um it didn't
 

5831
02:01:30,719 --> 02:01:33,430
happening is not happening. Um it didn't
happen and it certainly didn't happen

5832
02:01:33,430 --> 02:01:33,440
happen and it certainly didn't happen
 

5833
02:01:33,440 --> 02:01:35,589
happen and it certainly didn't happen
with Michelle either. So, could you

5834
02:01:35,589 --> 02:01:35,599
with Michelle either. So, could you
 

5835
02:01:35,599 --> 02:01:38,669
with Michelle either. So, could you
just, you know, go ahead and and, you

5836
02:01:38,669 --> 02:01:38,679
just, you know, go ahead and and, you
 

5837
02:01:38,679 --> 02:01:41,510
just, you know, go ahead and and, you
know, problem solved. You you you don't

5838
02:01:41,510 --> 02:01:41,520
know, problem solved. You you you don't
 

5839
02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:43,510
know, problem solved. You you you don't
have to be a hero. I I don't need saving

5840
02:01:43,510 --> 02:01:43,520
have to be a hero. I I don't need saving
 

5841
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:45,510
have to be a hero. I I don't need saving
and Michelle doesn't need saving. We're

5842
02:01:45,510 --> 02:01:45,520
and Michelle doesn't need saving. We're
 

5843
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:47,910
and Michelle doesn't need saving. We're
good. Um, none of this happened. I was

5844
02:01:47,910 --> 02:01:47,920
good. Um, none of this happened. I was
 

5845
02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:52,149
good. Um, none of this happened. I was
not groomed, you know. And he just

5846
02:01:52,149 --> 02:01:52,159
not groomed, you know. And he just
 

5847
02:01:52,159 --> 02:01:56,270
not groomed, you know. And he just
turned immediately and became extremely

5848
02:01:56,270 --> 02:01:56,280
turned immediately and became extremely
 

5849
02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:59,350
turned immediately and became extremely
defensive and didn't care what I had to

5850
02:01:59,350 --> 02:01:59,360
defensive and didn't care what I had to
 

5851
02:01:59,360 --> 02:02:00,870
defensive and didn't care what I had to
say after that point because at that

5852
02:02:00,870 --> 02:02:00,880
say after that point because at that
 

5853
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:03,510
say after that point because at that
point I had spoken up against what he

5854
02:02:03,510 --> 02:02:03,520
point I had spoken up against what he
 

5855
02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:05,350
point I had spoken up against what he
was saying and he was not going to have

5856
02:02:05,350 --> 02:02:05,360
was saying and he was not going to have
 

5857
02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:07,510
was saying and he was not going to have
that. This is not somebody who is

5858
02:02:07,510 --> 02:02:07,520
that. This is not somebody who is
 

5859
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:10,229
that. This is not somebody who is
worried for me and once I say something

5860
02:02:10,229 --> 02:02:10,239
worried for me and once I say something
 

5861
02:02:10,239 --> 02:02:11,669
worried for me and once I say something
on the matter and this is why it's so

5862
02:02:11,669 --> 02:02:11,679
on the matter and this is why it's so
 

5863
02:02:11,679 --> 02:02:12,870
on the matter and this is why it's so
annoying when people are like this

5864
02:02:12,870 --> 02:02:12,880
annoying when people are like this
 

5865
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:14,149
annoying when people are like this
person needs to make a statement. This

5866
02:02:14,149 --> 02:02:14,159
person needs to make a statement. This
 

5867
02:02:14,159 --> 02:02:15,510
person needs to make a statement. This
person needs to make a statement. I'm

5868
02:02:15,510 --> 02:02:15,520
person needs to make a statement. I'm
 

5869
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:18,149
person needs to make a statement. I'm
like why? Because the it depends who

5870
02:02:18,149 --> 02:02:18,159
like why? Because the it depends who
 

5871
02:02:18,159 --> 02:02:21,030
like why? Because the it depends who
it's for. I if we're talking about

5872
02:02:21,030 --> 02:02:21,040
it's for. I if we're talking about
 

5873
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:24,790
it's for. I if we're talking about
people who are my fans, my fans know

5874
02:02:24,790 --> 02:02:24,800
people who are my fans, my fans know
 

5875
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:27,669
people who are my fans, my fans know
that I'm chilling. My fans follow me on

5876
02:02:27,669 --> 02:02:27,679
that I'm chilling. My fans follow me on
 

5877
02:02:27,679 --> 02:02:29,830
that I'm chilling. My fans follow me on
Instagram and Twitter or whatever and

5878
02:02:29,830 --> 02:02:29,840
Instagram and Twitter or whatever and
 

5879
02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:32,790
Instagram and Twitter or whatever and
see that I'm very happy in my life and

5880
02:02:32,790 --> 02:02:32,800
see that I'm very happy in my life and
 

5881
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:37,350
see that I'm very happy in my life and
my relationship and I'm fine. And he I

5882
02:02:37,350 --> 02:02:37,360
my relationship and I'm fine. And he I
 

5883
02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:41,109
my relationship and I'm fine. And he I
think got you know he was he was

5884
02:02:41,109 --> 02:02:41,119
think got you know he was he was
 

5885
02:02:41,119 --> 02:02:44,750
think got you know he was he was
observing this on his other accounts and

5886
02:02:44,750 --> 02:02:44,760
observing this on his other accounts and
 

5887
02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:49,109
observing this on his other accounts and
the this you know me by this I mean me

5888
02:02:49,109 --> 02:02:49,119
the this you know me by this I mean me
 

5889
02:02:49,119 --> 02:02:51,109
the this you know me by this I mean me
and Gabe like dating when we had come

5890
02:02:51,109 --> 02:02:51,119
and Gabe like dating when we had come
 

5891
02:02:51,119 --> 02:02:53,189
and Gabe like dating when we had come
out and announced that we were dating.

5892
02:02:53,189 --> 02:02:53,199
out and announced that we were dating.
 

5893
02:02:53,199 --> 02:02:55,350
out and announced that we were dating.
Um, we were worried about that because

5894
02:02:55,350 --> 02:02:55,360
Um, we were worried about that because
 

5895
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:56,870
Um, we were worried about that because
we know that there are some people in

5896
02:02:56,870 --> 02:02:56,880
we know that there are some people in
 

5897
02:02:56,880 --> 02:02:59,189
we know that there are some people in
this fandom who are, you know, a little

5898
02:02:59,189 --> 02:02:59,199
this fandom who are, you know, a little
 

5899
02:02:59,199 --> 02:03:02,750
this fandom who are, you know, a little
bit loony for lack of a better

5900
02:03:02,750 --> 02:03:02,760
bit loony for lack of a better
 

5901
02:03:02,760 --> 02:03:07,030
bit loony for lack of a better
terminology. And those people are, you

5902
02:03:07,030 --> 02:03:07,040
terminology. And those people are, you
 

5903
02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:10,709
terminology. And those people are, you
know, we'll spread stuff about you and

5904
02:03:10,709 --> 02:03:10,719
know, we'll spread stuff about you and
 

5905
02:03:10,719 --> 02:03:12,149
know, we'll spread stuff about you and
that was something that we were like,

5906
02:03:12,149 --> 02:03:12,159
that was something that we were like,
 

5907
02:03:12,159 --> 02:03:13,830
that was something that we were like,
you know, let's pick our moment

5908
02:03:13,830 --> 02:03:13,840
you know, let's pick our moment
 

5909
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:16,550
you know, let's pick our moment
basically. But eventually we were like,

5910
02:03:16,550 --> 02:03:16,560
basically. But eventually we were like,
 

5911
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:19,270
basically. But eventually we were like,
you know what, who cares? Like we I am

5912
02:03:19,270 --> 02:03:19,280
you know what, who cares? Like we I am
 

5913
02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:20,870
you know what, who cares? Like we I am
very happy in this relationship. And

5914
02:03:20,870 --> 02:03:20,880
very happy in this relationship. And
 

5915
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:22,310
very happy in this relationship. And
Gabe was like, I'm very happy in this

5916
02:03:22,310 --> 02:03:22,320
Gabe was like, I'm very happy in this
 

5917
02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:25,030
Gabe was like, I'm very happy in this
relationship. We, you know, we had kind

5918
02:03:25,030 --> 02:03:25,040
relationship. We, you know, we had kind
 

5919
02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:26,310
relationship. We, you know, we had kind
of talked about it and we're like, yeah,

5920
02:03:26,310 --> 02:03:26,320
of talked about it and we're like, yeah,
 

5921
02:03:26,320 --> 02:03:27,990
of talked about it and we're like, yeah,
I feel like we can kind of let our

5922
02:03:27,990 --> 02:03:28,000
I feel like we can kind of let our
 

5923
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:29,910
I feel like we can kind of let our
followings know. And we we have a shared

5924
02:03:29,910 --> 02:03:29,920
followings know. And we we have a shared
 

5925
02:03:29,920 --> 02:03:31,189
followings know. And we we have a shared
following, but we also have separate

5926
02:03:31,189 --> 02:03:31,199
following, but we also have separate
 

5927
02:03:31,199 --> 02:03:32,709
following, but we also have separate
following. And it's kind of funny

5928
02:03:32,709 --> 02:03:32,719
following. And it's kind of funny
 

5929
02:03:32,719 --> 02:03:35,030
following. And it's kind of funny
because it's like when you announce that

5930
02:03:35,030 --> 02:03:35,040
because it's like when you announce that
 

5931
02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:38,070
because it's like when you announce that
you're like dating someone um seriously

5932
02:03:38,070 --> 02:03:38,080
you're like dating someone um seriously
 

5933
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:40,229
you're like dating someone um seriously
or like getting married, like you lose a

5934
02:03:40,229 --> 02:03:40,239
or like getting married, like you lose a
 

5935
02:03:40,239 --> 02:03:42,229
or like getting married, like you lose a
bunch of followers.

5936
02:03:42,229 --> 02:03:42,239
bunch of followers.
 

5937
02:03:42,239 --> 02:03:45,510
bunch of followers.
And for me, I like, you know, I I had a

5938
02:03:45,510 --> 02:03:45,520
And for me, I like, you know, I I had a
 

5939
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:48,870
And for me, I like, you know, I I had a
lot of people who spoke out and I got

5940
02:03:48,870 --> 02:03:48,880
lot of people who spoke out and I got
 

5941
02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:51,910
lot of people who spoke out and I got
the vibe that they were kind of sad that

5942
02:03:51,910 --> 02:03:51,920
the vibe that they were kind of sad that
 

5943
02:03:51,920 --> 02:03:54,070
the vibe that they were kind of sad that
I was off the market. And I'm like,

5944
02:03:54,070 --> 02:03:54,080
I was off the market. And I'm like,
 

5945
02:03:54,080 --> 02:03:57,189
I was off the market. And I'm like,
okay, no offense, but like as if you had

5946
02:03:57,189 --> 02:03:57,199
okay, no offense, but like as if you had
 

5947
02:03:57,199 --> 02:04:00,149
okay, no offense, but like as if you had
a shot. I like that's just kind of some

5948
02:04:00,149 --> 02:04:00,159
a shot. I like that's just kind of some
 

5949
02:04:00,159 --> 02:04:01,669
a shot. I like that's just kind of some
of the people in the fan base are like

5950
02:04:01,669 --> 02:04:01,679
of the people in the fan base are like
 

5951
02:04:01,679 --> 02:04:03,189
of the people in the fan base are like
that. But then there were other people

5952
02:04:03,189 --> 02:04:03,199
that. But then there were other people
 

5953
02:04:03,199 --> 02:04:04,870
that. But then there were other people
who were super happy for us and they

5954
02:04:04,870 --> 02:04:04,880
who were super happy for us and they
 

5955
02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:05,990
who were super happy for us and they
were like, "Oh my gosh, it's amazing.

5956
02:04:05,990 --> 02:04:06,000
were like, "Oh my gosh, it's amazing.
 

5957
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:07,350
were like, "Oh my gosh, it's amazing.
Like I'm I'm a fan of both of you.

5958
02:04:07,350 --> 02:04:07,360
Like I'm I'm a fan of both of you.
 

5959
02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:09,669
Like I'm I'm a fan of both of you.
That's so fun. Like I love seeing people

5960
02:04:09,669 --> 02:04:09,679
That's so fun. Like I love seeing people
 

5961
02:04:09,679 --> 02:04:12,390
That's so fun. Like I love seeing people
who are you know like-minded get

5962
02:04:12,390 --> 02:04:12,400
who are you know like-minded get
 

5963
02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:13,990
who are you know like-minded get
together and like man you guys are going

5964
02:04:13,990 --> 02:04:14,000
together and like man you guys are going
 

5965
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:15,510
together and like man you guys are going
to be power couples. So like that was

5966
02:04:15,510 --> 02:04:15,520
to be power couples. So like that was
 

5967
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:16,830
to be power couples. So like that was
really nice but

5968
02:04:16,830 --> 02:04:16,840
really nice but
 

5969
02:04:16,840 --> 02:04:21,430
really nice but
like this where brony fand is lies is

5970
02:04:21,430 --> 02:04:21,440
like this where brony fand is lies is
 

5971
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:25,669
like this where brony fand is lies is
one of those loony people and no matter

5972
02:04:25,669 --> 02:04:25,679
one of those loony people and no matter
 

5973
02:04:25,679 --> 02:04:28,669
one of those loony people and no matter
what I said I realized talking to him

5974
02:04:28,669 --> 02:04:28,679
what I said I realized talking to him
 

5975
02:04:28,679 --> 02:04:32,149
what I said I realized talking to him
directly was literally met with fire

5976
02:04:32,149 --> 02:04:32,159
directly was literally met with fire
 

5977
02:04:32,159 --> 02:04:34,870
directly was literally met with fire
every single time. I'm like, is there a

5978
02:04:34,870 --> 02:04:34,880
every single time. I'm like, is there a
 

5979
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:37,510
every single time. I'm like, is there a
way that you like, you know, I I don't

5980
02:04:37,510 --> 02:04:37,520
way that you like, you know, I I don't
 

5981
02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:38,790
way that you like, you know, I I don't
know why you're doing this. I don't know

5982
02:04:38,790 --> 02:04:38,800
know why you're doing this. I don't know
 

5983
02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:41,669
know why you're doing this. I don't know
why you feel like you have to like I I

5984
02:04:41,669 --> 02:04:41,679
why you feel like you have to like I I
 

5985
02:04:41,679 --> 02:04:43,350
why you feel like you have to like I I
don't know what else I can say to like

5986
02:04:43,350 --> 02:04:43,360
don't know what else I can say to like
 

5987
02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:45,030
don't know what else I can say to like
alleviate your concerns. And then I

5988
02:04:45,030 --> 02:04:45,040
alleviate your concerns. And then I
 

5989
02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:46,589
alleviate your concerns. And then I
started realizing, oh, these aren't

5990
02:04:46,589 --> 02:04:46,599
started realizing, oh, these aren't
 

5991
02:04:46,599 --> 02:04:49,669
started realizing, oh, these aren't
concerns. This is now an attack. And

5992
02:04:49,669 --> 02:04:49,679
concerns. This is now an attack. And
 

5993
02:04:49,679 --> 02:04:52,550
concerns. This is now an attack. And
then I had speculated actually for a

5994
02:04:52,550 --> 02:04:52,560
then I had speculated actually for a
 

5995
02:04:52,560 --> 02:04:54,950
then I had speculated actually for a
while um that this could have been my

5996
02:04:54,950 --> 02:04:54,960
while um that this could have been my
 

5997
02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:56,790
while um that this could have been my
own dad because my dad has done stuff

5998
02:04:56,790 --> 02:04:56,800
own dad because my dad has done stuff
 

5999
02:04:56,800 --> 02:04:58,709
own dad because my dad has done stuff
like this before. The language was very

6000
02:04:58,709 --> 02:04:58,719
like this before. The language was very
 

6001
02:04:58,719 --> 02:05:01,109
like this before. The language was very
similar. I had alluded to some, you

6002
02:05:01,109 --> 02:05:01,119
similar. I had alluded to some, you
 

6003
02:05:01,119 --> 02:05:03,109
similar. I had alluded to some, you
know, sassy remarks I I made with Brony

6004
02:05:03,109 --> 02:05:03,119
know, sassy remarks I I made with Brony
 

6005
02:05:03,119 --> 02:05:06,070
know, sassy remarks I I made with Brony
Fanounce, uh, this account and I was

6006
02:05:06,070 --> 02:05:06,080
Fanounce, uh, this account and I was
 

6007
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:07,510
Fanounce, uh, this account and I was
just trying to kind of gauge the waters

6008
02:05:07,510 --> 02:05:07,520
just trying to kind of gauge the waters
 

6009
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:10,070
just trying to kind of gauge the waters
and I'm like, yeah, I found out that it

6010
02:05:10,070 --> 02:05:10,080
and I'm like, yeah, I found out that it
 

6011
02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:11,270
and I'm like, yeah, I found out that it
wasn't him and I was like kind of

6012
02:05:11,270 --> 02:05:11,280
wasn't him and I was like kind of
 

6013
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:12,950
wasn't him and I was like kind of
relieved, but I also was kind of mad cuz

6014
02:05:12,950 --> 02:05:12,960
relieved, but I also was kind of mad cuz
 

6015
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:14,310
relieved, but I also was kind of mad cuz
I was like, well, dang, now we just have

6016
02:05:14,310 --> 02:05:14,320
I was like, well, dang, now we just have
 

6017
02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:15,830
I was like, well, dang, now we just have
like another crazy person with the same

6018
02:05:15,830 --> 02:05:15,840
like another crazy person with the same
 

6019
02:05:15,840 --> 02:05:19,350
like another crazy person with the same
kind of mentality and they just want

6020
02:05:19,350 --> 02:05:19,360
kind of mentality and they just want
 

6021
02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:22,070
kind of mentality and they just want
Gabe deplatformed. And I actually DM'd

6022
02:05:22,070 --> 02:05:22,080
Gabe deplatformed. And I actually DM'd
 

6023
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:23,990
Gabe deplatformed. And I actually DM'd
them and I had a whole conversation with

6024
02:05:23,990 --> 02:05:24,000
them and I had a whole conversation with
 

6025
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:26,790
them and I had a whole conversation with
him where I was like, "All right, like

6026
02:05:26,790 --> 02:05:26,800
him where I was like, "All right, like
 

6027
02:05:26,800 --> 02:05:28,310
him where I was like, "All right, like
I'm going to level with you, dude. Like

6028
02:05:28,310 --> 02:05:28,320
I'm going to level with you, dude. Like
 

6029
02:05:28,320 --> 02:05:31,189
I'm going to level with you, dude. Like
I I don't know what your goal is here or

6030
02:05:31,189 --> 02:05:31,199
I I don't know what your goal is here or
 

6031
02:05:31,199 --> 02:05:35,350
I I don't know what your goal is here or
your game, but I'm fine. And I like I

6032
02:05:35,350 --> 02:05:35,360
your game, but I'm fine. And I like I
 

6033
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:37,350
your game, but I'm fine. And I like I
don't know like why you're so angry

6034
02:05:37,350 --> 02:05:37,360
don't know like why you're so angry
 

6035
02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:38,950
don't know like why you're so angry
about this still. Like and it seems like

6036
02:05:38,950 --> 02:05:38,960
about this still. Like and it seems like
 

6037
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:40,390
about this still. Like and it seems like
you're more angry the fact that I've

6038
02:05:40,390 --> 02:05:40,400
you're more angry the fact that I've
 

6039
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:41,990
you're more angry the fact that I've
come out and I've said like this is not

6040
02:05:41,990 --> 02:05:42,000
come out and I've said like this is not
 

6041
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:43,910
come out and I've said like this is not
true now. But the whole conversation I

6042
02:05:43,910 --> 02:05:43,920
true now. But the whole conversation I
 

6043
02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:45,910
true now. But the whole conversation I
mean if you if you even can read it um

6044
02:05:45,910 --> 02:05:45,920
mean if you if you even can read it um
 

6045
02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:48,550
mean if you if you even can read it um
he posted it like a while ago. But it

6046
02:05:48,550 --> 02:05:48,560
he posted it like a while ago. But it
 

6047
02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:51,109
he posted it like a while ago. But it
was basically like he said like you

6048
02:05:51,109 --> 02:05:51,119
was basically like he said like you
 

6049
02:05:51,119 --> 02:05:52,709
was basically like he said like you
shouldn't have a relationship with

6050
02:05:52,709 --> 02:05:52,719
shouldn't have a relationship with
 

6051
02:05:52,719 --> 02:05:55,830
shouldn't have a relationship with
minors if you're an adult at all. And

6052
02:05:55,830 --> 02:05:55,840
minors if you're an adult at all. And
 

6053
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:57,830
minors if you're an adult at all. And
then I got curious and I started doing

6054
02:05:57,830 --> 02:05:57,840
then I got curious and I started doing
 

6055
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:00,790
then I got curious and I started doing
some research and from literally like

6056
02:06:00,790 --> 02:06:00,800
some research and from literally like
 

6057
02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:03,189
some research and from literally like
almost no effort at all of of research,

6058
02:06:03,189 --> 02:06:03,199
almost no effort at all of of research,
 

6059
02:06:03,199 --> 02:06:05,189
almost no effort at all of of research,
I was like, "Okay, this person had like

6060
02:06:05,189 --> 02:06:05,199
I was like, "Okay, this person had like
 

6061
02:06:05,199 --> 02:06:07,589
I was like, "Okay, this person had like
a role playing account. They deleted a

6062
02:06:07,589 --> 02:06:07,599
a role playing account. They deleted a
 

6063
02:06:07,599 --> 02:06:09,990
a role playing account. They deleted a
bunch of their uh they deleted a bunch

6064
02:06:09,990 --> 02:06:10,000
bunch of their uh they deleted a bunch
 

6065
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:11,350
bunch of their uh they deleted a bunch
of stuff that they used to like

6066
02:06:11,350 --> 02:06:11,360
of stuff that they used to like
 

6067
02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:14,390
of stuff that they used to like
communicate with me um that is like no

6068
02:06:14,390 --> 02:06:14,400
communicate with me um that is like no
 

6069
02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:19,669
communicate with me um that is like no
longer um on uh X anymore. Um but they

6070
02:06:19,669 --> 02:06:19,679
longer um on uh X anymore. Um but they
 

6071
02:06:19,679 --> 02:06:21,589
longer um on uh X anymore. Um but they
used to communicate with me. So I'm

6072
02:06:21,589 --> 02:06:21,599
used to communicate with me. So I'm
 

6073
02:06:21,599 --> 02:06:24,629
used to communicate with me. So I'm
like, "So what is it that you feel so

6074
02:06:24,629 --> 02:06:24,639
like, "So what is it that you feel so
 

6075
02:06:24,639 --> 02:06:28,550
like, "So what is it that you feel so
guilty or bad about talking to minors?

6076
02:06:28,550 --> 02:06:28,560
guilty or bad about talking to minors?
 

6077
02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:31,430
guilty or bad about talking to minors?
Not even not even adding the words

6078
02:06:31,430 --> 02:06:31,440
Not even not even adding the words
 

6079
02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:34,149
Not even not even adding the words
sexually to this or inappropriate.

6080
02:06:34,149 --> 02:06:34,159
sexually to this or inappropriate.
 

6081
02:06:34,159 --> 02:06:36,069
sexually to this or inappropriate.
Literally just you cannot talk to

6082
02:06:36,069 --> 02:06:36,079
Literally just you cannot talk to
 

6083
02:06:36,079 --> 02:06:39,350
Literally just you cannot talk to
minors." And so it was very creepy to me

6084
02:06:39,350 --> 02:06:39,360
minors." And so it was very creepy to me
 

6085
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:41,510
minors." And so it was very creepy to me
quite honestly that he started saying

6086
02:06:41,510 --> 02:06:41,520
quite honestly that he started saying
 

6087
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:42,870
quite honestly that he started saying
stuff like this. And the more that he

6088
02:06:42,870 --> 02:06:42,880
stuff like this. And the more that he
 

6089
02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:44,310
stuff like this. And the more that he
was saying that, then I started looking

6090
02:06:44,310 --> 02:06:44,320
was saying that, then I started looking
 

6091
02:06:44,320 --> 02:06:46,310
was saying that, then I started looking
into it and I was like, "Okay, the full

6092
02:06:46,310 --> 02:06:46,320
into it and I was like, "Okay, the full
 

6093
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:49,109
into it and I was like, "Okay, the full
con thing, like I'm sorry if you're

6094
02:06:49,109 --> 02:06:49,119
con thing, like I'm sorry if you're
 

6095
02:06:49,119 --> 02:06:51,109
con thing, like I'm sorry if you're
normalizing, I don't care what it is. If

6096
02:06:51,109 --> 02:06:51,119
normalizing, I don't care what it is. If
 

6097
02:06:51,119 --> 02:06:52,790
normalizing, I don't care what it is. If
you're drawing a freaking cabinet and

6098
02:06:52,790 --> 02:06:52,800
you're drawing a freaking cabinet and
 

6099
02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:54,550
you're drawing a freaking cabinet and
you're sexually attracted to a cabinet

6100
02:06:54,550 --> 02:06:54,560
you're sexually attracted to a cabinet
 

6101
02:06:54,560 --> 02:06:57,109
you're sexually attracted to a cabinet
and you say that the cabinet is 4 years

6102
02:06:57,109 --> 02:06:57,119
and you say that the cabinet is 4 years
 

6103
02:06:57,119 --> 02:07:00,229
and you say that the cabinet is 4 years
old, that's really creepy. I don't care

6104
02:07:00,229 --> 02:07:00,239
old, that's really creepy. I don't care
 

6105
02:07:00,239 --> 02:07:03,510
old, that's really creepy. I don't care
what that thing is. If it is underage

6106
02:07:03,510 --> 02:07:03,520
what that thing is. If it is underage
 

6107
02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:06,390
what that thing is. If it is underage
and it is being sexualized and you're

6108
02:07:06,390 --> 02:07:06,400
and it is being sexualized and you're
 

6109
02:07:06,400 --> 02:07:09,669
and it is being sexualized and you're
buying or commissioning that as porn,

6110
02:07:09,669 --> 02:07:09,679
buying or commissioning that as porn,
 

6111
02:07:09,679 --> 02:07:13,430
buying or commissioning that as porn,
that is predator behavior. And I think

6112
02:07:13,430 --> 02:07:13,440
that is predator behavior. And I think
 

6113
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:16,990
that is predator behavior. And I think
that he's totally projecting

6114
02:07:16,990 --> 02:07:17,000
that he's totally projecting
 

6115
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:20,149
that he's totally projecting
because I don't know. I'm I I I I know

6116
02:07:20,149 --> 02:07:20,159
because I don't know. I'm I I I I know
 

6117
02:07:20,159 --> 02:07:21,910
because I don't know. I'm I I I I know
that I I don't like just like throwing

6118
02:07:21,910 --> 02:07:21,920
that I I don't like just like throwing
 

6119
02:07:21,920 --> 02:07:23,189
that I I don't like just like throwing
things around, especially because I know

6120
02:07:23,189 --> 02:07:23,199
things around, especially because I know
 

6121
02:07:23,199 --> 02:07:25,270
things around, especially because I know
what it's like to be have these words

6122
02:07:25,270 --> 02:07:25,280
what it's like to be have these words
 

6123
02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:27,510
what it's like to be have these words
thrown at me and my own husband, but

6124
02:07:27,510 --> 02:07:27,520
thrown at me and my own husband, but
 

6125
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:30,229
thrown at me and my own husband, but
that's pretty pedophilic behavior and

6126
02:07:30,229 --> 02:07:30,239
that's pretty pedophilic behavior and
 

6127
02:07:30,239 --> 02:07:31,149
that's pretty pedophilic behavior and
it's

6128
02:07:31,149 --> 02:07:31,159
it's
 

6129
02:07:31,159 --> 02:07:32,669
it's
normalizing

6130
02:07:32,669 --> 02:07:32,679
normalizing
 

6131
02:07:32,679 --> 02:07:36,510
normalizing
sexualizing young people and

6132
02:07:36,510 --> 02:07:36,520
sexualizing young people and
 

6133
02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:39,109
sexualizing young people and
children and it's disgusting. There's

6134
02:07:39,109 --> 02:07:39,119
children and it's disgusting. There's
 

6135
02:07:39,119 --> 02:07:41,510
children and it's disgusting. There's
there's no there's no loophole there.

6136
02:07:41,510 --> 02:07:41,520
there's no there's no loophole there.
 

6137
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:43,990
there's no there's no loophole there.
You don't get to defend why your thing

6138
02:07:43,990 --> 02:07:44,000
You don't get to defend why your thing
 

6139
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:45,990
You don't get to defend why your thing
is slightly different and not okay and

6140
02:07:45,990 --> 02:07:46,000
is slightly different and not okay and
 

6141
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:47,910
is slightly different and not okay and
not hurting people. Well, guess what

6142
02:07:47,910 --> 02:07:47,920
not hurting people. Well, guess what
 

6143
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:50,790
not hurting people. Well, guess what
brony fan don't? You're hurting me. How

6144
02:07:50,790 --> 02:07:50,800
brony fan don't? You're hurting me. How
 

6145
02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:52,470
brony fan don't? You're hurting me. How
about that? You're hurting me. Now

6146
02:07:52,470 --> 02:07:52,480
about that? You're hurting me. Now
 

6147
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:54,390
about that? You're hurting me. Now
you've hurt one person. So, is that

6148
02:07:54,390 --> 02:07:54,400
you've hurt one person. So, is that
 

6149
02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:55,510
you've hurt one person. So, is that
going to make you stop getting

6150
02:07:55,510 --> 02:07:55,520
going to make you stop getting
 

6151
02:07:55,520 --> 02:07:59,109
going to make you stop getting
commissioned freaking underage cartoon

6152
02:07:59,109 --> 02:07:59,119
commissioned freaking underage cartoon
 

6153
02:07:59,119 --> 02:08:01,430
commissioned freaking underage cartoon
porn? Probably not, because there's

6154
02:08:01,430 --> 02:08:01,440
porn? Probably not, because there's
 

6155
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:02,470
porn? Probably not, because there's
going to be something else that you're

6156
02:08:02,470 --> 02:08:02,480
going to be something else that you're
 

6157
02:08:02,480 --> 02:08:04,149
going to be something else that you're
going to defend about it the next time.

6158
02:08:04,149 --> 02:08:04,159
going to defend about it the next time.
 

6159
02:08:04,159 --> 02:08:06,629
going to defend about it the next time.
I'm just I'm sick of that's so

6160
02:08:06,629 --> 02:08:06,639
I'm just I'm sick of that's so
 

6161
02:08:06,639 --> 02:08:09,030
I'm just I'm sick of that's so
sickening. This story is one of the

6162
02:08:09,030 --> 02:08:09,040
sickening. This story is one of the
 

6163
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:11,030
sickening. This story is one of the
weirdest things I have ever covered.

6164
02:08:11,030 --> 02:08:11,040
weirdest things I have ever covered.
 

6165
02:08:11,040 --> 02:08:12,870
weirdest things I have ever covered.
When I began, I expected it to be a

6166
02:08:12,870 --> 02:08:12,880
When I began, I expected it to be a
 

6167
02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:14,790
When I began, I expected it to be a
fairly simple tale about some girl who

6168
02:08:14,790 --> 02:08:14,800
fairly simple tale about some girl who
 

6169
02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:16,229
fairly simple tale about some girl who
had a grudge against another content

6170
02:08:16,229 --> 02:08:16,239
had a grudge against another content
 

6171
02:08:16,239 --> 02:08:18,069
had a grudge against another content
creator and was prepared to go to any

6172
02:08:18,069 --> 02:08:18,079
creator and was prepared to go to any
 

6173
02:08:18,079 --> 02:08:20,550
creator and was prepared to go to any
lengths to ruin him. I did not expect to

6174
02:08:20,550 --> 02:08:20,560
lengths to ruin him. I did not expect to
 

6175
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:22,229
lengths to ruin him. I did not expect to
be having conversations with the voice

6176
02:08:22,229 --> 02:08:22,239
be having conversations with the voice
 

6177
02:08:22,239 --> 02:08:24,069
be having conversations with the voice
actresses from My Little Pony and

6178
02:08:24,069 --> 02:08:24,079
actresses from My Little Pony and
 

6179
02:08:24,079 --> 02:08:25,830
actresses from My Little Pony and
dealing with a conspiracy to ruin their

6180
02:08:25,830 --> 02:08:25,840
dealing with a conspiracy to ruin their
 

6181
02:08:25,840 --> 02:08:27,510
dealing with a conspiracy to ruin their
lives that seemingly has been running

6182
02:08:27,510 --> 02:08:27,520
lives that seemingly has been running
 

6183
02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:30,069
lives that seemingly has been running
for years now. But as we've got through

6184
02:08:30,069 --> 02:08:30,079
for years now. But as we've got through
 

6185
02:08:30,079 --> 02:08:32,069
for years now. But as we've got through
all the conspirators, I guess it's time

6186
02:08:32,069 --> 02:08:32,079
all the conspirators, I guess it's time
 

6187
02:08:32,079 --> 02:08:34,069
all the conspirators, I guess it's time
for some final thoughts on this entire

6188
02:08:34,069 --> 02:08:34,079
for some final thoughts on this entire
 

6189
02:08:34,079 --> 02:08:37,750
for some final thoughts on this entire
mess. Firstly, let's return to KP.

6190
02:08:37,750 --> 02:08:37,760
mess. Firstly, let's return to KP.
 

6191
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:39,910
mess. Firstly, let's return to KP.
During my interviews with her, I said I

6192
02:08:39,910 --> 02:08:39,920
During my interviews with her, I said I
 

6193
02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:41,510
During my interviews with her, I said I
didn't really know where I came down on

6194
02:08:41,510 --> 02:08:41,520
didn't really know where I came down on
 

6195
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:43,750
didn't really know where I came down on
whether this was malice or stupidity,

6196
02:08:43,750 --> 02:08:43,760
whether this was malice or stupidity,
 

6197
02:08:43,760 --> 02:08:45,430
whether this was malice or stupidity,
and I actually don't know really if

6198
02:08:45,430 --> 02:08:45,440
and I actually don't know really if
 

6199
02:08:45,440 --> 02:08:47,830
and I actually don't know really if
that's changed. I think it's probably

6200
02:08:47,830 --> 02:08:47,840
that's changed. I think it's probably
 

6201
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:50,149
that's changed. I think it's probably
decent quantities of both. One thing I

6202
02:08:50,149 --> 02:08:50,159
decent quantities of both. One thing I
 

6203
02:08:50,159 --> 02:08:52,390
decent quantities of both. One thing I
will point out is KP has been very

6204
02:08:52,390 --> 02:08:52,400
will point out is KP has been very
 

6205
02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:55,030
will point out is KP has been very
forthcoming with information and does

6206
02:08:55,030 --> 02:08:55,040
forthcoming with information and does
 

6207
02:08:55,040 --> 02:08:57,830
forthcoming with information and does
seem legitimately remorseful. Whether

6208
02:08:57,830 --> 02:08:57,840
seem legitimately remorseful. Whether
 

6209
02:08:57,840 --> 02:08:59,990
seem legitimately remorseful. Whether
these are genuine feelings, a response

6210
02:08:59,990 --> 02:09:00,000
these are genuine feelings, a response
 

6211
02:09:00,000 --> 02:09:02,149
these are genuine feelings, a response
to being thrown under the bus, or an

6212
02:09:02,149 --> 02:09:02,159
to being thrown under the bus, or an
 

6213
02:09:02,159 --> 02:09:03,830
to being thrown under the bus, or an
attempt to avoid being sued into

6214
02:09:03,830 --> 02:09:03,840
attempt to avoid being sued into
 

6215
02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:06,550
attempt to avoid being sued into
oblivion, I'll leave up to you. But what

6216
02:09:06,550 --> 02:09:06,560
oblivion, I'll leave up to you. But what
 

6217
02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:09,109
oblivion, I'll leave up to you. But what
I've experienced with KP largely lines

6218
02:09:09,109 --> 02:09:09,119
I've experienced with KP largely lines
 

6219
02:09:09,119 --> 02:09:10,709
I've experienced with KP largely lines
up with what other people have said to

6220
02:09:10,709 --> 02:09:10,719
up with what other people have said to
 

6221
02:09:10,719 --> 02:09:13,189
up with what other people have said to
me about her. She is fairly lost and

6222
02:09:13,189 --> 02:09:13,199
me about her. She is fairly lost and
 

6223
02:09:13,199 --> 02:09:15,750
me about her. She is fairly lost and
fairly clueless. Turning up to our first

6224
02:09:15,750 --> 02:09:15,760
fairly clueless. Turning up to our first
 

6225
02:09:15,760 --> 02:09:18,470
fairly clueless. Turning up to our first
conversation kind of baked. So it

6226
02:09:18,470 --> 02:09:18,480
conversation kind of baked. So it
 

6227
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:19,910
conversation kind of baked. So it
doesn't come as a surprise to me that

6228
02:09:19,910 --> 02:09:19,920
doesn't come as a surprise to me that
 

6229
02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:21,750
doesn't come as a surprise to me that
when I came back to her to ask about

6230
02:09:21,750 --> 02:09:21,760
when I came back to her to ask about
 

6231
02:09:21,760 --> 02:09:25,030
when I came back to her to ask about
Chris, she'd ask me this. Are you cool

6232
02:09:25,030 --> 02:09:25,040
Chris, she'd ask me this. Are you cool
 

6233
02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:28,310
Chris, she'd ask me this. Are you cool
with me coming to process to you like in

6234
02:09:28,310 --> 02:09:28,320
with me coming to process to you like in
 

6235
02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:30,790
with me coming to process to you like in
general? Like I don't I don't know. It

6236
02:09:30,790 --> 02:09:30,800
general? Like I don't I don't know. It
 

6237
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:32,310
general? Like I don't I don't know. It
just b it just I don't want to look at

6238
02:09:32,310 --> 02:09:32,320
just b it just I don't want to look at
 

6239
02:09:32,320 --> 02:09:33,510
just b it just I don't want to look at
anything that's gonna trigger me and

6240
02:09:33,510 --> 02:09:33,520
anything that's gonna trigger me and
 

6241
02:09:33,520 --> 02:09:34,870
anything that's gonna trigger me and
then Ly won't tell me anything because

6242
02:09:34,870 --> 02:09:34,880
then Ly won't tell me anything because
 

6243
02:09:34,880 --> 02:09:37,189
then Ly won't tell me anything because
he's afraid he's gonna trigger me. Yeah.

6244
02:09:37,189 --> 02:09:37,199
he's afraid he's gonna trigger me. Yeah.
 

6245
02:09:37,199 --> 02:09:39,910
he's afraid he's gonna trigger me. Yeah.
Yeah, that's that's fine. I mean, again,

6246
02:09:39,910 --> 02:09:39,920
Yeah, that's that's fine. I mean, again,
 

6247
02:09:39,920 --> 02:09:43,069
Yeah, that's that's fine. I mean, again,
I want to I want to be clear

6248
02:09:43,069 --> 02:09:43,079
I want to I want to be clear
 

6249
02:09:43,079 --> 02:09:46,709
I want to I want to be clear
that I'm I am making a video on you. I I

6250
02:09:46,709 --> 02:09:46,719
that I'm I am making a video on you. I I
 

6251
02:09:46,719 --> 02:09:48,470
that I'm I am making a video on you. I I
think there's that separation. I'm no

6252
02:09:48,470 --> 02:09:48,480
think there's that separation. I'm no
 

6253
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:50,390
think there's that separation. I'm no
I'm no one's therapist. For those of you

6254
02:09:50,390 --> 02:09:50,400
I'm no one's therapist. For those of you
 

6255
02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:52,149
I'm no one's therapist. For those of you
looking for some repercussions to hit

6256
02:09:52,149 --> 02:09:52,159
looking for some repercussions to hit
 

6257
02:09:52,159 --> 02:09:54,390
looking for some repercussions to hit
KP, and I don't blame any of you for

6258
02:09:54,390 --> 02:09:54,400
KP, and I don't blame any of you for
 

6259
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:56,629
KP, and I don't blame any of you for
that position, this kind of thing is

6260
02:09:56,629 --> 02:09:56,639
that position, this kind of thing is
 

6261
02:09:56,639 --> 02:09:58,870
that position, this kind of thing is
devastating to a channel. I'm really not

6262
02:09:58,870 --> 02:09:58,880
devastating to a channel. I'm really not
 

6263
02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:00,550
devastating to a channel. I'm really not
sure how you actually come back from

6264
02:10:00,550 --> 02:10:00,560
sure how you actually come back from
 

6265
02:10:00,560 --> 02:10:03,189
sure how you actually come back from
something like this. And to be honest,

6266
02:10:03,189 --> 02:10:03,199
something like this. And to be honest,
 

6267
02:10:03,199 --> 02:10:05,270
something like this. And to be honest,
the real damage that's been done to her

6268
02:10:05,270 --> 02:10:05,280
the real damage that's been done to her
 

6269
02:10:05,280 --> 02:10:07,510
the real damage that's been done to her
is she has basically burnt all her

6270
02:10:07,510 --> 02:10:07,520
is she has basically burnt all her
 

6271
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:09,830
is she has basically burnt all her
bridges with her old remaining friends.

6272
02:10:09,830 --> 02:10:09,840
bridges with her old remaining friends.
 

6273
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:11,830
bridges with her old remaining friends.
And my final thought on this really is

6274
02:10:11,830 --> 02:10:11,840
And my final thought on this really is
 

6275
02:10:11,840 --> 02:10:14,310
And my final thought on this really is
that the only person who can judge KP

6276
02:10:14,310 --> 02:10:14,320
that the only person who can judge KP
 

6277
02:10:14,320 --> 02:10:17,430
that the only person who can judge KP
fairly is Saber Spark and how he feels

6278
02:10:17,430 --> 02:10:17,440
fairly is Saber Spark and how he feels
 

6279
02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:19,830
fairly is Saber Spark and how he feels
about the [\h__\h] she pulled. As a core

6280
02:10:19,830 --> 02:10:19,840
about the [\h__\h] she pulled. As a core
 

6281
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:21,750
about the [\h__\h] she pulled. As a core
point to this entire thing, if there is

6282
02:10:21,750 --> 02:10:21,760
point to this entire thing, if there is
 

6283
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:23,589
point to this entire thing, if there is
a lesson to be learned, it is about

6284
02:10:23,589 --> 02:10:23,599
a lesson to be learned, it is about
 

6285
02:10:23,599 --> 02:10:25,910
a lesson to be learned, it is about
evidencing the claims we are making as

6286
02:10:25,910 --> 02:10:25,920
evidencing the claims we are making as
 

6287
02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:28,550
evidencing the claims we are making as
creators. and I have actively avoided

6288
02:10:28,550 --> 02:10:28,560
creators. and I have actively avoided
 

6289
02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:30,470
creators. and I have actively avoided
including claims that I couldn't in some

6290
02:10:30,470 --> 02:10:30,480
including claims that I couldn't in some
 

6291
02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:32,950
including claims that I couldn't in some
way substantiate either with evidence or

6292
02:10:32,950 --> 02:10:32,960
way substantiate either with evidence or
 

6293
02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:35,910
way substantiate either with evidence or
additional testimonies. I have now heard

6294
02:10:35,910 --> 02:10:35,920
additional testimonies. I have now heard
 

6295
02:10:35,920 --> 02:10:37,750
additional testimonies. I have now heard
the other side of the allegations being

6296
02:10:37,750 --> 02:10:37,760
the other side of the allegations being
 

6297
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:40,629
the other side of the allegations being
made by Emily, but I have largely dodged

6298
02:10:40,629 --> 02:10:40,639
made by Emily, but I have largely dodged
 

6299
02:10:40,639 --> 02:10:42,870
made by Emily, but I have largely dodged
around talking about them and her for a

6300
02:10:42,870 --> 02:10:42,880
around talking about them and her for a
 

6301
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:45,910
around talking about them and her for a
very simple reason. It is not fair to me

6302
02:10:45,910 --> 02:10:45,920
very simple reason. It is not fair to me
 

6303
02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:47,750
very simple reason. It is not fair to me
or to you as an audience for me to be

6304
02:10:47,750 --> 02:10:47,760
or to you as an audience for me to be
 

6305
02:10:47,760 --> 02:10:49,430
or to you as an audience for me to be
presenting takes that will clearly have

6306
02:10:49,430 --> 02:10:49,440
presenting takes that will clearly have
 

6307
02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:52,709
presenting takes that will clearly have
been biased by what I now know. As long

6308
02:10:52,709 --> 02:10:52,719
been biased by what I now know. As long
 

6309
02:10:52,719 --> 02:10:54,629
been biased by what I now know. As long
as Saber is off the record, and I have

6310
02:10:54,629 --> 02:10:54,639
as Saber is off the record, and I have
 

6311
02:10:54,639 --> 02:10:56,950
as Saber is off the record, and I have
been clear about this with him, I cannot

6312
02:10:56,950 --> 02:10:56,960
been clear about this with him, I cannot
 

6313
02:10:56,960 --> 02:10:59,510
been clear about this with him, I cannot
use what he tells me. And to his credit,

6314
02:10:59,510 --> 02:10:59,520
use what he tells me. And to his credit,
 

6315
02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:02,069
use what he tells me. And to his credit,
he wouldn't want me to. But one thing

6316
02:11:02,069 --> 02:11:02,079
he wouldn't want me to. But one thing
 

6317
02:11:02,079 --> 02:11:04,550
he wouldn't want me to. But one thing
that was pointed out to me by Lazy Bed

6318
02:11:04,550 --> 02:11:04,560
that was pointed out to me by Lazy Bed
 

6319
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:07,109
that was pointed out to me by Lazy Bed
is that I clearly from the start had

6320
02:11:07,109 --> 02:11:07,119
is that I clearly from the start had
 

6321
02:11:07,119 --> 02:11:09,510
is that I clearly from the start had
issues with these allegations, and she

6322
02:11:09,510 --> 02:11:09,520
issues with these allegations, and she
 

6323
02:11:09,520 --> 02:11:11,750
issues with these allegations, and she
felt me not highlighting this previous

6324
02:11:11,750 --> 02:11:11,760
felt me not highlighting this previous
 

6325
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:14,709
felt me not highlighting this previous
bias made me slightly disingenuous. But

6326
02:11:14,709 --> 02:11:14,719
bias made me slightly disingenuous. But
 

6327
02:11:14,719 --> 02:11:16,470
bias made me slightly disingenuous. But
my Twitter hasn't gone anywhere, and I

6328
02:11:16,470 --> 02:11:16,480
my Twitter hasn't gone anywhere, and I
 

6329
02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:17,910
my Twitter hasn't gone anywhere, and I
was tweeting out about this on May the

6330
02:11:17,910 --> 02:11:17,920
was tweeting out about this on May the
 

6331
02:11:17,920 --> 02:11:19,669
was tweeting out about this on May the
2nd before I'd even begun looking at

6332
02:11:19,669 --> 02:11:19,679
2nd before I'd even begun looking at
 

6333
02:11:19,679 --> 02:11:22,430
2nd before I'd even begun looking at
this in earnest. So, for the sake of

6334
02:11:22,430 --> 02:11:22,440
this in earnest. So, for the sake of
 

6335
02:11:22,440 --> 02:11:24,790
this in earnest. So, for the sake of
transparency, let's just go over my

6336
02:11:24,790 --> 02:11:24,800
transparency, let's just go over my
 

6337
02:11:24,800 --> 02:11:26,709
transparency, let's just go over my
thoughts and why I had issues with this

6338
02:11:26,709 --> 02:11:26,719
thoughts and why I had issues with this
 

6339
02:11:26,719 --> 02:11:29,030
thoughts and why I had issues with this
to begin with. My primary problem with

6340
02:11:29,030 --> 02:11:29,040
to begin with. My primary problem with
 

6341
02:11:29,040 --> 02:11:31,270
to begin with. My primary problem with
these allegations, having gone over many

6342
02:11:31,270 --> 02:11:31,280
these allegations, having gone over many
 

6343
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:34,470
these allegations, having gone over many
like them over the years, is that to me,

6344
02:11:34,470 --> 02:11:34,480
like them over the years, is that to me,
 

6345
02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:36,790
like them over the years, is that to me,
Emily tells on herself. My exact

6346
02:11:36,790 --> 02:11:36,800
Emily tells on herself. My exact
 

6347
02:11:36,800 --> 02:11:38,709
Emily tells on herself. My exact
comments were, "Unless there is more,

6348
02:11:38,709 --> 02:11:38,719
comments were, "Unless there is more,
 

6349
02:11:38,719 --> 02:11:40,950
comments were, "Unless there is more,
Sabre is autistic and led her on for

6350
02:11:40,950 --> 02:11:40,960
Sabre is autistic and led her on for
 

6351
02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:43,030
Sabre is autistic and led her on for
like a year mind talking about a

6352
02:11:43,030 --> 02:11:43,040
like a year mind talking about a
 

6353
02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:45,669
like a year mind talking about a
relationship, which is shitty, but not

6354
02:11:45,669 --> 02:11:45,679
relationship, which is shitty, but not
 

6355
02:11:45,679 --> 02:11:47,510
relationship, which is shitty, but not
cancel worthy. Plus, people are just

6356
02:11:47,510 --> 02:11:47,520
cancel worthy. Plus, people are just
 

6357
02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:49,109
cancel worthy. Plus, people are just
glossing over the fact that this is

6358
02:11:49,109 --> 02:11:49,119
glossing over the fact that this is
 

6359
02:11:49,119 --> 02:11:51,430
glossing over the fact that this is
seemingly multiple meetings and combos,

6360
02:11:51,430 --> 02:11:51,440
seemingly multiple meetings and combos,
 

6361
02:11:51,440 --> 02:11:53,510
seemingly multiple meetings and combos,
which adds a lot of gray to this. And

6362
02:11:53,510 --> 02:11:53,520
which adds a lot of gray to this. And
 

6363
02:11:53,520 --> 02:11:55,750
which adds a lot of gray to this. And
when we come to the actual statement, we

6364
02:11:55,750 --> 02:11:55,760
when we come to the actual statement, we
 

6365
02:11:55,760 --> 02:11:57,430
when we come to the actual statement, we
can find that Emmy is talking about

6366
02:11:57,430 --> 02:11:57,440
can find that Emmy is talking about
 

6367
02:11:57,440 --> 02:11:59,830
can find that Emmy is talking about
being demisexual. Multiple comments

6368
02:11:59,830 --> 02:11:59,840
being demisexual. Multiple comments
 

6369
02:11:59,840 --> 02:12:01,830
being demisexual. Multiple comments
about Sabre mentioning a relationship

6370
02:12:01,830 --> 02:12:01,840
about Sabre mentioning a relationship
 

6371
02:12:01,840 --> 02:12:03,750
about Sabre mentioning a relationship
and also talking about how she needed to

6372
02:12:03,750 --> 02:12:03,760
and also talking about how she needed to
 

6373
02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:06,870
and also talking about how she needed to
get over her crush because she felt her

6374
02:12:06,870 --> 02:12:06,880
get over her crush because she felt her
 

6375
02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:09,510
get over her crush because she felt her
emotions were being toyed with. To me,

6376
02:12:09,510 --> 02:12:09,520
emotions were being toyed with. To me,
 

6377
02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:12,229
emotions were being toyed with. To me,
and this is just my opinion, this

6378
02:12:12,229 --> 02:12:12,239
and this is just my opinion, this
 

6379
02:12:12,239 --> 02:12:14,390
and this is just my opinion, this
statement reads far more like somebody

6380
02:12:14,390 --> 02:12:14,400
statement reads far more like somebody
 

6381
02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:16,229
statement reads far more like somebody
who was pissed off and has been pissed

6382
02:12:16,229 --> 02:12:16,239
who was pissed off and has been pissed
 

6383
02:12:16,239 --> 02:12:18,390
who was pissed off and has been pissed
off for years that the guy she liked

6384
02:12:18,390 --> 02:12:18,400
off for years that the guy she liked
 

6385
02:12:18,400 --> 02:12:21,030
off for years that the guy she liked
decided not to date her. And I say this

6386
02:12:21,030 --> 02:12:21,040
decided not to date her. And I say this
 

6387
02:12:21,040 --> 02:12:23,270
decided not to date her. And I say this
because my experience has been that

6388
02:12:23,270 --> 02:12:23,280
because my experience has been that
 

6389
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:26,470
because my experience has been that
people tell on themselves, often unable

6390
02:12:26,470 --> 02:12:26,480
people tell on themselves, often unable
 

6391
02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:29,270
people tell on themselves, often unable
to omit the actual reasons for taking a

6392
02:12:29,270 --> 02:12:29,280
to omit the actual reasons for taking a
 

6393
02:12:29,280 --> 02:12:31,669
to omit the actual reasons for taking a
particular course of action. This is, of

6394
02:12:31,669 --> 02:12:31,679
particular course of action. This is, of
 

6395
02:12:31,679 --> 02:12:34,149
particular course of action. This is, of
course, me just explaining my biases and

6396
02:12:34,149 --> 02:12:34,159
course, me just explaining my biases and
 

6397
02:12:34,159 --> 02:12:36,870
course, me just explaining my biases and
my tweets on this particular situation.

6398
02:12:36,870 --> 02:12:36,880
my tweets on this particular situation.
 

6399
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:39,270
my tweets on this particular situation.
We all undeniably have these biases

6400
02:12:39,270 --> 02:12:39,280
We all undeniably have these biases
 

6401
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:40,629
We all undeniably have these biases
whether you are on the listen and

6402
02:12:40,629 --> 02:12:40,639
whether you are on the listen and
 

6403
02:12:40,639 --> 02:12:43,189
whether you are on the listen and
believe all victim side or the evidence

6404
02:12:43,189 --> 02:12:43,199
believe all victim side or the evidence
 

6405
02:12:43,199 --> 02:12:45,910
believe all victim side or the evidence
or it didn't happen side. Truthfully,

6406
02:12:45,910 --> 02:12:45,920
or it didn't happen side. Truthfully,
 

6407
02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:47,589
or it didn't happen side. Truthfully,
most people are going to fall somewhere

6408
02:12:47,589 --> 02:12:47,599
most people are going to fall somewhere
 

6409
02:12:47,599 --> 02:12:49,910
most people are going to fall somewhere
in the middle of that spectrum. The

6410
02:12:49,910 --> 02:12:49,920
in the middle of that spectrum. The
 

6411
02:12:49,920 --> 02:12:51,910
in the middle of that spectrum. The
issue only really comes when people are

6412
02:12:51,910 --> 02:12:51,920
issue only really comes when people are
 

6413
02:12:51,920 --> 02:12:53,750
issue only really comes when people are
trying to ruin each other's lives based

6414
02:12:53,750 --> 02:12:53,760
trying to ruin each other's lives based
 

6415
02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:56,550
trying to ruin each other's lives based
on hearsay. And once again, hopefully

6416
02:12:56,550 --> 02:12:56,560
on hearsay. And once again, hopefully
 

6417
02:12:56,560 --> 02:12:58,550
on hearsay. And once again, hopefully
for the final time now, I don't know the

6418
02:12:58,550 --> 02:12:58,560
for the final time now, I don't know the
 

6419
02:12:58,560 --> 02:13:00,229
for the final time now, I don't know the
truth behind these allegations. Whether

6420
02:13:00,229 --> 02:13:00,239
truth behind these allegations. Whether
 

6421
02:13:00,239 --> 02:13:02,550
truth behind these allegations. Whether
it is Saber Spark or Black Griffin,

6422
02:13:02,550 --> 02:13:02,560
it is Saber Spark or Black Griffin,
 

6423
02:13:02,560 --> 02:13:04,470
it is Saber Spark or Black Griffin,
nobody does except for the people

6424
02:13:04,470 --> 02:13:04,480
nobody does except for the people
 

6425
02:13:04,480 --> 02:13:07,109
nobody does except for the people
directly involved. I am also not

6426
02:13:07,109 --> 02:13:07,119
directly involved. I am also not
 

6427
02:13:07,119 --> 02:13:09,589
directly involved. I am also not
unsympathetic if there are real victims

6428
02:13:09,589 --> 02:13:09,599
unsympathetic if there are real victims
 

6429
02:13:09,599 --> 02:13:11,589
unsympathetic if there are real victims
and the well has been poisoned because

6430
02:13:11,589 --> 02:13:11,599
and the well has been poisoned because
 

6431
02:13:11,599 --> 02:13:13,189
and the well has been poisoned because
the people who were handling those

6432
02:13:13,189 --> 02:13:13,199
the people who were handling those
 

6433
02:13:13,199 --> 02:13:16,550
the people who were handling those
claims have been brutally discredited.

6434
02:13:16,550 --> 02:13:16,560
claims have been brutally discredited.
 

6435
02:13:16,560 --> 02:13:18,790
claims have been brutally discredited.
In fact, you'll notice that I barely

6436
02:13:18,790 --> 02:13:18,800
In fact, you'll notice that I barely
 

6437
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:21,189
In fact, you'll notice that I barely
talk about the DA games accusations

6438
02:13:21,189 --> 02:13:21,199
talk about the DA games accusations
 

6439
02:13:21,199 --> 02:13:23,189
talk about the DA games accusations
because from what I've seen of it, it

6440
02:13:23,189 --> 02:13:23,199
because from what I've seen of it, it
 

6441
02:13:23,199 --> 02:13:25,830
because from what I've seen of it, it
might have some legs. And because KP's

6442
02:13:25,830 --> 02:13:25,840
might have some legs. And because KP's
 

6443
02:13:25,840 --> 02:13:29,350
might have some legs. And because KP's
video is so, so bad, that particular

6444
02:13:29,350 --> 02:13:29,360
video is so, so bad, that particular
 

6445
02:13:29,360 --> 02:13:31,510
video is so, so bad, that particular
well has yet to actually be poisoned cuz

6446
02:13:31,510 --> 02:13:31,520
well has yet to actually be poisoned cuz
 

6447
02:13:31,520 --> 02:13:33,270
well has yet to actually be poisoned cuz
most people don't even realize that

6448
02:13:33,270 --> 02:13:33,280
most people don't even realize that
 

6449
02:13:33,280 --> 02:13:35,510
most people don't even realize that
that's what her video was about. So, if

6450
02:13:35,510 --> 02:13:35,520
that's what her video was about. So, if
 

6451
02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:37,589
that's what her video was about. So, if
there is something there, I hope

6452
02:13:37,589 --> 02:13:37,599
there is something there, I hope
 

6453
02:13:37,599 --> 02:13:40,310
there is something there, I hope
somebody competent looks into it. If

6454
02:13:40,310 --> 02:13:40,320
somebody competent looks into it. If
 

6455
02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:42,870
somebody competent looks into it. If
you've enjoyed this content, please hit

6456
02:13:42,870 --> 02:13:42,880
you've enjoyed this content, please hit
 

6457
02:13:42,880 --> 02:13:44,709
you've enjoyed this content, please hit
the buttons below the video. It does

6458
02:13:44,709 --> 02:13:44,719
the buttons below the video. It does
 

6459
02:13:44,719 --> 02:13:47,270
the buttons below the video. It does
help the channel and I do appreciate it.

6460
02:13:47,270 --> 02:13:47,280
help the channel and I do appreciate it.
 

6461
02:13:47,280 --> 02:13:49,109
help the channel and I do appreciate it.
Thanks to all our current subscribers

6462
02:13:49,109 --> 02:13:49,119
Thanks to all our current subscribers
 

6463
02:13:49,119 --> 02:13:50,790
Thanks to all our current subscribers
and members, particularly those at

6464
02:13:50,790 --> 02:13:50,800
and members, particularly those at
 

6465
02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:53,270
and members, particularly those at
Molding Level, Shelley May, Bass Hos,

6466
02:13:53,270 --> 02:13:53,280
Molding Level, Shelley May, Bass Hos,
 

6467
02:13:53,280 --> 02:13:55,910
Molding Level, Shelley May, Bass Hos,
Seance, Letters of Sky, Corvis Cabal,

6468
02:13:55,910 --> 02:13:55,920
Seance, Letters of Sky, Corvis Cabal,
 

6469
02:13:55,920 --> 02:13:57,990
Seance, Letters of Sky, Corvis Cabal,
Rotting Brain, Dr. Zeus, Hippo,

6470
02:13:57,990 --> 02:13:58,000
Rotting Brain, Dr. Zeus, Hippo,
 

6471
02:13:58,000 --> 02:13:59,990
Rotting Brain, Dr. Zeus, Hippo,
Stationary Name, Hey, it's Lizzy, and

6472
02:13:59,990 --> 02:14:00,000
Stationary Name, Hey, it's Lizzy, and
 

6473
02:14:00,000 --> 02:14:02,870
Stationary Name, Hey, it's Lizzy, and
Star Sprinter. But before I go, I want

6474
02:14:02,870 --> 02:14:02,880
Star Sprinter. But before I go, I want
 

6475
02:14:02,880 --> 02:14:05,109
Star Sprinter. But before I go, I want
to leave you with one thing which is

6476
02:14:05,109 --> 02:14:05,119
to leave you with one thing which is
 

6477
02:14:05,119 --> 02:14:07,910
to leave you with one thing which is
admittedly kind of just for me because

6478
02:14:07,910 --> 02:14:07,920
admittedly kind of just for me because
 

6479
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:10,790
admittedly kind of just for me because
there is an absurdly famous brony clip

6480
02:14:10,790 --> 02:14:10,800
there is an absurdly famous brony clip
 

6481
02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:14,149
there is an absurdly famous brony clip
which has lived rentree in my head for

6482
02:14:14,149 --> 02:14:14,159
which has lived rentree in my head for
 

6483
02:14:14,159 --> 02:14:16,870
which has lived rentree in my head for
years. However, as most of us are aware,

6484
02:14:16,870 --> 02:14:16,880
years. However, as most of us are aware,
 

6485
02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:19,430
years. However, as most of us are aware,
there's a darker side to fandom which we

6486
02:14:19,430 --> 02:14:19,440
there's a darker side to fandom which we
 

6487
02:14:19,440 --> 02:14:24,149
there's a darker side to fandom which we
know pretty well to Mrs. Oliver and Miss

6488
02:14:24,149 --> 02:14:24,159
know pretty well to Mrs. Oliver and Miss
 

6489
02:14:24,159 --> 02:14:26,270
know pretty well to Mrs. Oliver and Miss
Libman.

6490
02:14:26,270 --> 02:14:26,280
Libman.
 

6491
02:14:26,280 --> 02:14:28,390
Libman.
Great. All right. So, I'm pretty sure

6492
02:14:28,390 --> 02:14:28,400
Great. All right. So, I'm pretty sure
 

6493
02:14:28,400 --> 02:14:30,629
Great. All right. So, I'm pretty sure
you're aware of Princess Celestia being

6494
02:14:30,629 --> 02:14:30,639
you're aware of Princess Celestia being
 

6495
02:14:30,639 --> 02:14:33,589
you're aware of Princess Celestia being
portrayed as a tyrant and neutral and

6496
02:14:33,589 --> 02:14:33,599
portrayed as a tyrant and neutral and
 

6497
02:14:33,599 --> 02:14:36,390
portrayed as a tyrant and neutral and
god forbid a molester. And the reason I

6498
02:14:36,390 --> 02:14:36,400
god forbid a molester. And the reason I
 

6499
02:14:36,400 --> 02:14:38,229
god forbid a molester. And the reason I
have to bring this up is because the

6500
02:14:38,229 --> 02:14:38,239
have to bring this up is because the
 

6501
02:14:38,239 --> 02:14:40,709
have to bring this up is because the
young lady on stage sat next to Peter

6502
02:14:40,709 --> 02:14:40,719
young lady on stage sat next to Peter
 

6503
02:14:40,719 --> 02:14:43,830
young lady on stage sat next to Peter
New funny enough is Michelle and I

6504
02:14:43,830 --> 02:14:43,840
New funny enough is Michelle and I
 

6505
02:14:43,840 --> 02:14:46,750
New funny enough is Michelle and I
actually did ask her about this. A

6506
02:14:46,750 --> 02:14:46,760
actually did ask her about this. A
 

6507
02:14:46,760 --> 02:14:51,629
actually did ask her about this. A
panelist gets up on stage and asks

6508
02:14:51,629 --> 02:14:51,639
panelist gets up on stage and asks
 

6509
02:14:51,639 --> 02:14:55,830
panelist gets up on stage and asks
you about your opinions on Princess

6510
02:14:55,830 --> 02:14:55,840
you about your opinions on Princess
 

6511
02:14:55,840 --> 02:14:59,030
you about your opinions on Princess
Celestia being depicted as a tyrant, an

6512
02:14:59,030 --> 02:14:59,040
Celestia being depicted as a tyrant, an
 

6513
02:14:59,040 --> 02:15:01,750
Celestia being depicted as a tyrant, an
abuser, and a molester. Do you have any

6514
02:15:01,750 --> 02:15:01,760
abuser, and a molester. Do you have any
 

6515
02:15:01,760 --> 02:15:04,069
abuser, and a molester. Do you have any
memory of this?

6516
02:15:04,069 --> 02:15:04,079
memory of this?
 

6517
02:15:04,079 --> 02:15:06,950
memory of this?
Zero. I'm telling you, I have zero

6518
02:15:06,950 --> 02:15:06,960
Zero. I'm telling you, I have zero
 

6519
02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:09,430
Zero. I'm telling you, I have zero
memories from conventions almost at all.

6520
02:15:09,430 --> 02:15:09,440
memories from conventions almost at all.
 

6521
02:15:09,440 --> 02:15:12,069
memories from conventions almost at all.
They all blur together. I even showed it

6522
02:15:12,069 --> 02:15:12,079
They all blur together. I even showed it
 

6523
02:15:12,079 --> 02:15:14,709
They all blur together. I even showed it
to her and she couldn't even identify

6524
02:15:14,709 --> 02:15:14,719
to her and she couldn't even identify
 

6525
02:15:14,719 --> 02:15:17,510
to her and she couldn't even identify
which convention it took place at, which

6526
02:15:17,510 --> 02:15:17,520
which convention it took place at, which
 

6527
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:19,830
which convention it took place at, which
if anything kind of wraps this story up

6528
02:15:19,830 --> 02:15:19,840
if anything kind of wraps this story up
 

6529
02:15:19,840 --> 02:15:23,030
if anything kind of wraps this story up
quite nicely. These events from a decade

6530
02:15:23,030 --> 02:15:23,040
quite nicely. These events from a decade
 

6531
02:15:23,040 --> 02:15:26,149
quite nicely. These events from a decade
or so ago mean so much to so many

6532
02:15:26,149 --> 02:15:26,159
or so ago mean so much to so many
 

6533
02:15:26,159 --> 02:15:28,950
or so ago mean so much to so many
people, but for those involved, this was

6534
02:15:28,950 --> 02:15:28,960
people, but for those involved, this was
 

6535
02:15:28,960 --> 02:15:32,550
people, but for those involved, this was
just their job. As always, more content

6536
02:15:32,550 --> 02:15:32,560
just their job. As always, more content
 

6537
02:15:32,560 --> 02:15:36,520
just their job. As always, more content
to come. Peace.