All right, like always, look at the
screen. And if it upsets you that this
is being pointed to, I promise you'll be
okay. Now, I'd like to think I wouldn't
have to recap here, but I will on the
off chance that someone stumbles into
this. At the end of April of this year,
YouTuber I Love Kim Possible a lot
released a video with the stated intent
to expose DA Games and Sabers Spark.
Now, if this was just a bad video
focusing on DA Games, taking another
shot after criticism wouldn't have been
the worst of ideas. [music] Everyone
makes a bad video eventually, and it's
clear KP needed to check her tone and
approach on matters like this. Humor is
a valid coping mechanism, but there is a
time and place for these things. The
bigger issue is that KP included a claim
towards Saber Spark of a very specific
nature, one that's non-consensual, to be
clear. The irritation here is that when
she was told about the accusation,
unbeknownst to me, made by YouTuber Emu
Emmy, she came to me directly and asked
what I thought, and I made my value and
direction on that very clear. You don't
forward any of this without bare minimum
informing law enforcement and filing a
report regardless of the age of the
accusation.
>> Then that needs to be handled by the
cops. Like period,
[music] like 100% period, that that
needs a police report filed today.
Here's the problem though uh with that
inherently.
If that did happen, and Saber did do
that, he will by nature know who it is.
So, if it gets out in any way, shape, or
form and a police report hasn't been
filed, she's going to be at risk. Like,
that's just the truth of the matter in
this. And it's unpleasant. It's ugly,
but that's the truth. Now, I've seen
some drooling idiots, the same that
think I was involved in KP's video, to
be clear, state that Emu Emmy should
have gone to RAIN if it was due to
wanting victim support. Absolutely.
They're a victim advocate organization,
but they're not law enforcement, and
claims of this nature must be reported
to law enforcement before anything else.
That's the standard. I encourage victims
to seek proper help when needed, but the
only real chance any of us would have
for justice in this world would go to
the judicial system. Anyways, this
caused an absolute mastrom of hate to be
thrown at KP. To be clear, criticism is
justified. She made a serious accusation
of a nature like this without actual
evidence. That's condemnable. Full stop.
After her initial video dropped, she
came to me asking what she should do. At
the time, I hadn't seen the video, but I
had heard she included the accusation I
told her not to, and I obviously wasn't
happy. Regardless, though, I told her if
the responses were stressing her out to
private the video. So, she did. That's
when video responses and the like had
come out. And so, a person in my circles
came around asking questions, that being
Beckett of Copen. I got KP in contact
with him because despite being a drama
channel, Becket will give people a fair
shake and leeway where others wouldn't.
There's other details that happened
after this, but the culmination was the
video Becket made on the situation.
Obviously, KP wasn't happy. She's
clearly used to being in control of
things and was under the impression that
this video would validate her. I'm
honestly not sure how, as Becket was
very clear he was going to be critical
of her. She asked me if she should
respond to anything, and I told her not
to, because anything she said would be
under severe scrutiny and people would
be bad faith about it. After some time
had passed, I was ruminating on all that
KP had [music] done. I made it clear to
her that she had screwed up, but I
wasn't willing to throw away our
friendship because of a screw-up. One
could have argued that KP genuinely
believed Emy and pushed the accusations
due to that. But as more time and data
came out, that didn't seem to be the
case. I hadn't spoken to KP for a while
when she popped back up in my DMs and
shared a link to the audio for her
response. You know, the thing I told her
not to do. It was listening to the audio
of this response that stealed it for me
that KP wasn't approaching this like a
proper adult. While I didn't share the
audio, someone else, hidden heroine, did
and now it's out there in the public. It
was genuinely awful and focused more on
her feelings than the wrong she's done,
putting the onus on the audience and
blaming misogyny. Since KP had turned
away my suggestions twice, I decided not
to give her a complete feedback on any
of this. Mostly because if she was going
to screw up again, I was just going to
let her since she was clearly not
willing to listen to counsel. The other
much smaller reason was because I didn't
want to be put in the position of Lio
said this was fine like others have
tried to put me in to use me as a
shield. She w up sending another draft
of audio, but it wasn't much better. The
day arrived where she put out the
response. While not as bad as her
drafts, it was still putting the focus
on her feelings and providing no
apologies towards Saber Spark. I will
note though that a bit before this, my
staff member, Hidden Heroine, contacted
KP offering to help with some things. To
clarify, Hidden didn't regularly track
the KP stuff like the rest of us did, so
she didn't have full detail. So KP's
response hits, and then she has a call
with KP where KP just outright lied on
some things. This pushed Hidden to
release the call after being sent other
things from KP. KP wasn't happy about
this obviously and came to me to
complain about it. I set a day and time
for the call to happen and added her and
Hidden to a group chat because if KP
wanted answers, I wasn't about to answer
for another person. KP instead left the
group chat angrily because she had been
actively monitoring Hidden's comment
section or had someone watch it for her
and discovered Hidden was talking about
releasing something else, assuming it
would be the call. Here's the back and
forth we had after that with KP's part
being read out by the lord of the corn
beef.
>> I guess it's just you and me then. Let
me know when ready.
>> Dude, we were supposed to lack of trust
with you when you bring in the bring in
the person that is the one of the
reasons I need to speak to you about.
>> You may need to redo that sentence. It
doesn't really make sense. [music]
>> Hidden leaked the call and is laughing
about how stupid I am. And you bring her
in to talk to me. You recommended me to
talk to her in the first place, and that
reflects on both of you.
>> I didn't tell you to talk to Hidden. I'm
ready when you are.
>> Let me look into that. Hold on. I have
closed the DMs with her so I can look
into that later, but I'm open to being
incorrect about it. Still, memory serves
that you recommended her and how much
you trusted her. [music] She's your head
mod, right? Like, you can't tell me she
didn't plan to leak the call with the
three of us. It seems like it was
likely. [music] Correct me if I'm wrong.
>> She is not my head mod. Let me know when
you can call. I literally told you I
can't answer for her.
>> At this point, I feel feel more
comfortable as a text convo. Does she
have any authority in your server?
Because I do not remember meeting her
under circumstances unrelated to you.
>> I'm not doing text KP. I don't have the
time for that. You wanted to talk, I'm
granting you that. Trying to get
granular about Hidden's position in my
server isn't relative to that,
especially since I didn't send her to
you. But you still brought someone who
was actively leaking calls into a
conversation. You still decided to
include her. If you didn't want me to
mention hidden, then idk why you thought
we were going to have a three-way call
when she was literally bragging about
how stupid I am live for trusting her.
You didn't even ask me.
>> I literally told you why I added her.
>> I [music] understand that, but I wanted
to talk to you, not hidden.
>> I'm not going to answer for another
person. I refuse to. [music]
>> That's fine. You don't have to.
>> And I'm the only one here, so let's do
that. I won't be adding anyone else.
>> Are you planning on recording?
>> Do I need to?
>> I'm just asking and clarifying.
>> I can't text all night, KP.
>> At this point, I feel more comfortable
with texting. I'm sure you can
understand that. If you are unavailable
tonight, that's [music] fine. We can
talk some other time.
>> KP, this was set up and scheduled. This
is actually just ridiculous. I'm not
doing text. I have other
responsibilities and cannot spend more
time than I already have texting you.
You go on about wanting to be treated as
an equal. This is it.
>> You never specified ever that it only
had to be a call. If you have other
responsibilities, I understand. Have a
good night.
>> I did actually. I'll be able to call
tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. CST. Stop trying
to word lawyer this KP. It's unbecoming.
>> Right. That was something you said.
That's not something that was mutually
agreed upon. You also didn't specify you
couldn't text. Anyway, you've made your
time concerns known, and I don't think
we can see eye to eye about this, so
I'll just save us the trouble and
disengage.
>> I'm going to be very blunt here, KP.
Your constant choice of running from
literally every difficult situation is
going to do nothing but bite you in the
butt. Things will not always be on your
terms, especially not in the working
world. This entire debacle happened
because you refuse to listen to me. And
now you're trying to blame me for the
actions of others. I've heard the call.
You either need to eat some gravel and
hardened up or figure out how you're
going to survive if you're not catered
to every step of the way. You will
unironically be extremely lucky if Saber
doesn't push litigation on you because
you've absolutely given him the opening
to do so. A few days passed and KP asked
for another call, one with me. Leo, I
understand that emotions were high the
other day and that a lot of people are
acting out of stress right now, but a
call with Hidden wasn't something we
explicitly discussed or agreed upon. I
didn't understand at the time that that
was your plan. I assumed you would talk
to her privately without me involved.
That's a big part of why this situation
has been so upsetting for me. I can't
explain or control someone else's
actions, and I don't blame you for her
choices or anyone else's behavior. I
would imagine you feel regret connecting
me to Becket based on how ugly this is
getting. I understand this was an
attempt to help that is gone a different
way than intended, and I appreciate
that, but I also need to recognize how
they've affected me. As far as talking
to her, I do remember you mentioning on
a call that she was someone you trusted
deeply as a friend. I could be wrong,
but if I'm right, then it's worth
asking. How would I remember that
information unless it came from you?
That's why this whole situation has
shaken me so much. You have been a good
friend to me, and I want to acknowledge
that. But the truth is, I've been
heavily spooked by people I once trusted
leaking personal, private, sensitive
information. Riddle leaking information
indirectly has been deeply traumatic.
I'm exhausted. I need to draw a boundary
here. Not to punish anyone, but to
protect myself. I am willing to
re-engage and clarify details with you,
but it needs to be in a way I feel
comfortable and at a later time when
things are [music] less volatile. I
still value our friendship and hope that
hasn't been lost in [music] all of this.
But right now, I need to be careful with
my own limits, especially since I have a
strong reason to believe that a call
might have been recorded. That
possibility is deeply upsetting, and I
need to prioritize my safety and peace
of mind above all else.
>> I see. The person you're remembering me
referring to wasn't hidden. It was
Peaches. And that was 2 years ago.
>> Apologies. Time is a bit wonky these
days. Also, you did tell me so. And
these are precensored, but if you need
this, I'm kind of feeling okay, so do
you have time to talk tonight?
>> I'll have time at 8:00 p.m. CST.
>> Okay. If I get sleepy, I'll let you
know. Sorry for my reaction. Hidden just
triggered the [\h__\h] out of me, too. I'm
here. Just note that my energy levels
are a bit low, and this week I feel like
I've been run over by the magic school
bus, especially [music] chest.
>> All right, one moment. Ready?
>> All right, go ahead.
>> I want to state very clearly, I don't
tend to record calls with friends, but
it was pretty clear to me that KP was
scrambling to find anybody to be a
scapegoat here, and I wasn't completely
unaware about how she was speaking about
me in these other private calls that got
released. So, I felt it right to record
this for my own safety so I don't get
thrown under the bus like she's done to
other people. So, here's that call.
[music]
Hello, Rachel. Can you hear me?
>> Yeah, I can hear you.
>> All right. So,
what is it you specifically wanted to
discuss?
I don't know [music] honestly. I guess
um
I guess there's nothing really we can do
uh [music] or nothing I can really do as
far as
how how [music] crazy
it's been getting. But um
like
Can you can you give me some more
background about your your relationship
with Becket? [music] Cuz like he um he
he he's been interviewing like everyone
that I've ever brief g b g b g b g b g b
g b g b g b g b g b g b g b g b g b g b
g b g b g b g b g brief [music] dear and
um he interviewed my friend and told her
some or said some [music] upsetting
things, not upsetting but like
unsettling things to her. Um,
>> why did he talk to Do you know why
accepted that?
>> Cuz she wanted to try to help me.
[music]
>> Mhm.
>> From a PR standpoint. She asked me um
and she told me about it and I said, "If
if you want to." [music]
Um, and basically from what he desri
what she described, she's she's
trustworthy. [music] Um, I don't I don't
have any feel have any reason to doubt
her.
um [music] he basically tried to be
really nice and um get [music]
information out of her and she wouldn't
budge. And then she said after 15
minutes he kind of dropped the act and
talked about [music]
um how much money he was making off this
um that he doesn't care about anyone.
[music]
um that um he thinks I'm acting
victively [music] because um if he were
me that's how he would be acting so
therefore I am acting vindictively. Um
thinks [music] people he's talking to
are crazy but is platforming them anyway
um to make money. Um
based talked about how he
um
talked about how he didn't understand
the perfect victim myth even [music]
though she tried to explain it. She said
he was kind of it kind of made her um
uncomfortable how how hinged he was.
[music] And then um unhing not unhinged
but like he asked her if my [music] PTSD
was real.
um
you know just he's been asking people a
lot of personal questions
um [music] so I don't feel like I don't
have any any privacy at all um which you
know I [music] know I I can only control
to a certain extent but there seems to
be like
I don't know I don't I don't know the
kid but it just seems like [music] it's
it's it's very hyperfocused and kind of
like
you know he's trying to bait me on
Twitter I'm not really paying attention.
[music]
You know, he he had um
Barbie,
you know, [music] get try to manipulate
me. I I guess I'm just tired of like I'm
just venting at this point, but I'm just
tired of being manipulated and um
>> and and yeah, go ahead.
>> Let me take that in order. Number one
did produce to you a copy of their
conversation.
No, she didn't record it.
>> Okay. Your friends need to get into a
habit of learning how to do that because
what she said about Becket does not
track [music] for him as a person from
literally anything I know about him. I
do not know. How long have you known?
>> Mhm. [clears throat]
A year.
>> Okay. I will tell you this.
Becket did not send Barbie to you.
Barbie did that of her own valition
>> because that's
>> Yeah, I got the feeling she wanted to
play [music] main character.
>> Well, the point is that's not Becket's
fault. That's not his doing. That's who
Barbie is. And again, I'm not going to
do too many of this concerning Barbie,
but I did warn you about her. I warned
you about her last year and I warned you
about her earlier this year.
>> No, I I I you did warn me. I'm not I'm
not debating that.
>> Okay. Now,
I will say um calling him kid probably
not the best thing because he is
genuinely older than you. Um he's in his
mid30s whereas I'm like in my 40s.
>> I'm not going to say
>> he's in his mid Okay, you
>> Yeah, he's in his mid-30s. He's closer
to my age. But um it's not that Becket
does not care. Becket tries his best in
a lot of ways to keep some sort of
professional distance from what he talks
about. But the problem with all this is
you're saying that you're tired of being
manipulated. But part of the problem
when it comes to you and all of this is
that you have a tendency of getting all
of your information thirdand instead of
looking for it yourself.
And that is going to bite you in the
butt 10 times out of 10.
Unless you have 100% trust in the person
you are communicating with, which
frankly based on the people you've been
around sounds to me like you haven't
had. Now
there [music] Beckin is not going out
there looking for people to talk to.
They are coming to him. He is not
seeking them out. They are seeing what's
going on and he is asking them
questions. And I can tell you enough
about Becket to know that if he does not
have evidence for it or if it does not
sound like something real, he's going to
be very
uh critical of it. He's not just going
to run with anything he hears like other
idiots that don't like you will. Now, I
will [music] say this. I am sorry that
personal details about you were put out
there by MAD. I genuinely am. That's I
don't agree with that personally. If you
were like a child predator or something,
I wouldn't care. But I don't think that
is acceptable. I don't think that's
okay.
Now, here's where we have to come to a
little bit of the brass tax here. You
say you want to be treated as an equal,
right?
Um, where are you going with this?
>> We need to have a very serious talk
right now.
And I do mean a very serious talk.
>> So
I'm asking you if you want to be treated
like an equal because it's very made
very clear in your different responses
that you do not like it when people
[music]
treat you like there's a mentorship
going on without informing you. So I'm
asking you directly if you want me to
treat you like an equal cuz that way I
can be as straight and direct with you
as possible.
>> Yeah. Unless I, you know, dictate
otherwise based on how I'm feeling. But
but go ahead.
>> Okay, I will preface. You are not going
to like what I'm going to say. I am not
saying any I'm not saying any of this to
hurt you. I am saying this because I
care and because I have watched the past
6 months of you spiraling destructively
because you did not listen to counsel.
Rachel, you do not have a grasp on how
to treat people. You do not have a grasp
on how, for lack of better word, I want
to be very clear. I'm not saying this to
insult you. If I was, we would not be
talking like this. It would be a
different matter altogether. You do not
seem to truly understand how the real
working world works. And that is what's
continuing to bite you. and the fact
that you are continuing on this
destructive path that you started when
you refused to accept that you should
not have forward any rape accusations
about Saber Spark and you are continuing
to double and triple down is going to do
nothing but continue to destroy you.
So my hard question for you is how much
of this is you versus how much of this
is from people pushing you in certain
directions
>> like rhetorically or like
>> like people guiding you to continue on
this destructive path as opposed to
apologizing and moving on with your
life. Because [snorts] what's been
happening is in the first response you
sent me, the one you put out publicly,
and then the one that was leaked from
your Q&A, you are not at any point
saying, "I should not have done this in
general. I am sorry for forwarding
accusations without evidence." Instead,
you are continuing to put the onus on
literally everybody else. And I am
asking, is that from your desire or is
somebody guiding you to make those
statements and you are going with it
because you think they're helping you?
Um, no one's no one's guiding me. Um,
if that's your that's your question or
that Yeah.
>> All right. I'm going to be a little more
blunt then. How much of this is Courtney
involved in?
>> Not much. Like, she's not she's not
pushing me to do anything I don't want
to do.
>> Are you familiar? Are you aware of what
Courtney's been doing lately in the
online space?
Um, not really, but go ahead. You can
you can tell me.
>> She literally went on public and and
said that she hopes that Mr. Enter gets
raped and killed.
>> She's
>> Yeah, I think
>> she's lost it like wholesale lost it.
She has called anybody who does not
believe the accusations against Saber
Spark part of a pro- rape boys club.
She thinks that it is acceptable to call
anybody anything and to accuse him of
anything because you are not a legal
official and therefore you must not need
to control yourself, which oddly enough
she hasn't realized backfires [music]
directly to her when people call her a
groomer or a predator with no evidence.
And on top of that, KP, people know you
use chat GPT with your Q&A. Like, what's
going on here?
>> What do you mean what's going on?
>> Like, did you really consult Chat GPT to
write your Q&A?
>> Um,
a a little bit for some of the sighting,
but not the whole thing. Just
Why are you continuing to push
allegations you don't have any evidence
for?
>> Um
I because I believe her I guess. Um, you
know, I don't know where I'm going to go
from here, though. So, I haven't
decided.
>> There is nothing wrong with believing
her internally and supporting her
personally. The problem isn't that you
believe and that you support. The
problem is that you publicize, you
attack, and that you've doubled and
tripled down on it.
KP,
what you went through in 2016 when
people were making all sorts of
accusations about you
that really screwed with you, right?
Really messed you up. It It didn't feel
good. It hurt, right?
>> Mhm.
>> Imagine that. But instead of just
asinine things about a workplace
environment,
somebody accuses you of sexually
assaulting somebody with no evidence.
And instead of apologizing for it,
saying, you know what, I believed her,
but I shouldn't have made this public. I
should have supported her, but signed
the scenes and see if justice could be
gotten another way. They just continued
to double and triple down on it. How
would that make you feel?
Um, I I don't [music] really want to get
into um
a debate with [music] that right now.
Like I said,
>> it's not a debate, KP. I'm not I'm not
sitting here hashing out values of
difference to you. I'm saying this is a
destructive path [music]
because the burden of proof is on the
people who make the accusations. And
what you've done this time is you have
tied your person, your channel, your
credibility, and any future prospects
you have in any field because it is now
tied to you. This will follow you into
your real life. It will. Unless you come
up real quick with an actual sincere
apology, it [music] will follow you into
your real life. This is not me wanting
to bully you, browbeat you. I'm saying
these things because I care and because
I am concerned and I see what's
happening. What I said to you Monday
night in our conversation was not a
snide jab at you. It was [music] not an
insult. You are unironically going to be
actually lucky if he does not sue you
because you have met every single known
legal marker for him to be able to do
that to you.
>> Have you been talking to him directly?
No, I have not said a word to or about
Saber Spark because I'm standing by my
principle, I think the guy's a weirdo.
But I'm saying objectively looking at
all the data that's out there right now,
he lost 26,000 subscribers. He has
people calling him a rapist. He had
people harassing his wife or his future
wife rather, his fiance for being in
relationship with somebody being accused
of rape. He has lost money from this. He
has lost social standing. Every single
thing that generally needs to be met.
And whether you say it or not, there's
plenty out there that can put to the
idea that this is done out of malice,
whether from you or from Emy, that it
meets every quite every basic criteria.
You will actually be lucky if he doesn't
sue you.
Like I I don't I don't I think part of
the problem is, and I'm not saying this
cuz I think you're an idiot or anything.
I'm saying this because I think what
you've gone through, you you you
ostrich, you turtle when things get
hard, and so you don't know what's going
on around you. I genuinely don't think
you realize the depth of the problem
you've gotten yourself into here.
It's it's monstrous
because what you've done in your
responses is instead of owning your
screw-ups outside of the tone for the DA
games, you've just doubled and tripled
down saying it's the audience's fault
for not understanding or it's a
perception issue or it's the the perfect
victim myth, which nobody is even
running with. Nobody's saying they
shouldn't believe Emmy because Emy's not
a perfect victim. They're saying the
data she has provided versus what
Saberspark has provided it is in favor
of Saber Spark's selling of events
simply because he has data based on how
she has acted to him, how she has
responded to him, her communications and
relationship up to him.
He has that data. You guys don't you
don't have anything.
So,
>> I mean, I don't
>> if you wanted to believe it, that's
fine.
It's It's making the accusations and
continuing to
That's That's going to kill it.
That's going to kill any goodwill you
have. That's going to kill any
KP. I'm I'm just gonna
You want to get into the animation
industry, right?
>> I [music] I I I get where you're going.
>> They know KP, there are people in the
industry who know who you are now. And
it's not because of animation. It's not
because of any of that. It's because of
these accusations you refuse to w back.
That's a problem.
There's one reason why I said to not
even put out a response to begin with.
It's also why I told you don't forward
this. Make police reports. Even if it's
a decade old, make the police reports.
Emmy Emy's channel is bigger than yours.
She could have just done it herself if
she was so adamant about it. Instead,
she runs you around circles. She lies to
your face. Cuz I will tell you this
right now. Her excuse of I didn't want
to talk to Lio because of his profile
picture when she had no problem talking
to me before with the same profile
picture. Something's wrong here, Rachel.
Something is horrifically wrong here.
You can't think about this right now in
terms of PR. PR doesn't matter.
Not in this. Not right now.
What matters is the fact that you are
you're free falling off a cliff and you
ain't got a parachute. You've got to
cobble one together and you can't do it
by continuing to double down on the idea
that you're right.
And on top of that with the way this
happens, and here's why you have to be
so so serious about the data you have at
hand when you make these accusations, is
if he is what you think he is. Now,
there's an entire debacle out there that
will make people immediately disregard
it if it's something that actually
happens again. If he did do it
initially, this will make people
immediately discard it.
That that's
that's damage.
And you can't you can't keep down this
path, [music] Rachel. You're not not
only are you not going to win, you're
going to actively continue to destroy
yourself.
And I don't want that for you.
I mean, I
like since [music] since the be since I
don't know what what's happened, but um
I haven't like
I haven't decided how or what to do. I
guess if that is any um
any uh
>> consolation,
>> you know, I I guess I just haven't Yeah,
I haven't been thinking about that. I've
just kind of been thinking about um this
just just the stuff just the just the
riddle stuff and that kind of thing. So,
>> okay.
Now,
Riddle, what he was doing was he was
upset and he was venting to somebody
under the assumption that it would have
been kept private.
I understand the desire to vent to a
trusted individual. The problem there is
that Maddie leaked it because Mad I
don't know if it's Matt or Maddie,
there's something wrong in their skull
meat very obviously. It's why they make
accusations as well without any
evidence.
But
I'm not going to go into detail and ask
you cuz I'm not like these other guys.
Uh it's none of my business. But I will
just say this. If even a third of what
Riddle is saying is accurate,
KP, you've got a lot of growing up you
got to do real fast.
Like real fast.
And I'm not saying that cuz I hate you.
Cuz I don't hate you. I'm saying that
because I care. And right now I think
I'm kind of the only friend you've got
that's just going to be blunt and tell
you the truth here. I'm not here to play
sides. I'm not here to push u a
narrative for myself.
This is me trying to communicate to you
how badly you are in a situation of
because you haven't been able to peek up
and take a look. It's bad. It's really,
really bad, Rachel.
>> I mean, well, that's why we're talking,
right? Yeah, but it it shouldn't take a
conversation with me for you to know how
bad it is. You got to be able to look
for yourself.
And yeah, Becket's been mean about some
things. I'm not going to sit here and
deny that, especially in the the video
he did to your newest public response.
Oh, absolutely. He was mean in that. But
here's the truth of the matter. The
reason why I had you talk to Beckett
wasn't because it was some sort of
stupid little setup. I don't do that to
people. It's because I know
>> I do think it was a setup.
>> I know, but I'm just if in case that was
a concern, I'm letting you know. It's
because out of everybody else who you
could have talked to, Becket was going
to give you the most grace he could.
Like literally, as weird as that may be
to sound, he's going to give you the
most grace cuz he's going to look at the
data and come to conclusions based on
that. Not on personal bias, not on
whether he likes people. The man w up
talking to voice actors of people in the
animation industry. That's how far this
has gone. And not because he went to
search them out. because they found him.
They came to him and
you took what grace he could give you
and said, "No, I'm just going to triple
down." Because as as much of a pain in
the butt as it could be for him to imply
or state that he thinks that you're not
all that bright or whatever, it's a lot
better than claiming you're malicious
because that's what it's coming out as
now, that you're malicious and that's
why you're doubling and tripling down.
especially considering the fact that
your initial um audio was also leaked.
And to be clear, not by me,
that's been leaked as well. And people
>> people can hear it now. And and KP, you
you frame everything like it's misogyny.
>> It's not not in this case. Yeah, women
are treated garbage in the industry.
Women are treated garbage socially. I'm
well aware of that. But the reason why
people didn't come and back you up about
the rape accusation isn't because they
hate women.
It's because there was no evidence like
at all.
It's why I told you not to do it.
And the reason why I didn't do
>> No, I didn't understand.
>> Go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead.
>> Go ahead.
No, I was going to say um
I guess on hindsight I didn't like I
didn't comprehend
that
like her [music] refusing to do the the
police report was a red flag. I just
thought that um
it was going to get out anyway and not
get out, [music] it was going to be
released through um Fandone anyway or
whatever the [\h__\h] So, um
I I I I was just, you know, I just
wanted [music] to support her, I guess.
But, no, I I get your point. I get your
point of view.
>> Yeah. and and that look,
I don't think you should have to look
into every person you work with because
sometimes that's just not functional.
But there's some there was something off
from Fando to begin with, especially
based on the age of the account versus
how many tweets they've had. Like that
account's over a decade old and when you
look into it finds out they are a right
freak. They they like
>> Yeah, they like little kid characters.
They're a sexual deviant of different
degrees. Um, the general idea is the
entire reason why this person
specifically is going after Black
Griffin is not because they genuinely
believe he's a predator, but because
they had a sexual attraction to the
Sweetie Bell character
that his wife voiced
because that was his main focus. He
really liked that character in all the
worst ways a human being can as an
adult. To be clear,
I understand saying, "Well, it was going
to get out anyways." But the truth of
the matter is that wouldn't have been on
you. And I told you I told you why she
needed to make it. I told you in that
group chat why she needed to make that
report. Cuz every excuse she was giving
made no sense. Well, if I do it, he
might find out who I am. If he assaulted
her, he'd know anyways. Well, he might
dox me. He knows her information. I
mean, that's why.
No, I didn't understand.
Uh
I didn't understand [music] that. Um
those were were um
those were dodges. Um [music]
if so I I don't like I if that makes
like I wasn't like I wish
um
I'm not blaming you obviously but I
guess I wish like [music] the red flags
were were explained more um explicitly
cuz I I just didn't catch them. So, um,
like I didn't understand that what you
were saying was [music] proof of
hesitancy. I thought she was just
hesitant cuz she was afraid she was
going [music] to get um, dox harassed,
which she ended up getting harassed
anyway.
>> Yeah.
>> But, [music] um,
>> the thing is, if she was going to make
the accusation public, it was going to
happen regardless of if she filed a
police report or not. That's why she
just needed to file the report. Because
here's the thing. If she had filed the
report, let's go ahead and and walk back
in time. If she were the one to file, if
she if she at least bare minimum file a
report and prove that she did that, that
would at least communicate to people,
no, she actually believes this happened,
she is thoroughly convinced, cuz why
would a woman go to the police
otherwise? Now, there have been plenty
of cases, even though Courtney says
otherwise, where women have made false
rape accusations to ruin a man's life.
That just has happened. You It's
literally happened to a little black kid
years, like decades ago, who w up
getting killed over it. So, yes,
unfortunately, it does happen. It's
awful. one of the worst things in the
world to lie about, but it does happen.
But at least with a police report, there
could have been at least that that
modicum, that crumb of hesitancy of
people saying, "Huh, well, if nothing
else, Emmy believes that's what happened
because why in the world would she go do
that otherwise?" But she didn't even do
that. And it had nothing to do with fear
of being harassed and everything to do
with the fact that she wanted to be
able, from what I can tell, take that
shot off of somebody else's platform
and then duck and hide. and she tried to
and the entire reason she failed was
because she left breadcrumbs.
You say you worried about pe you're
tired of people manipulating you but
they've been doing it this entire time.
Again, if you want to believe in me,
that's absolutely fine. I know people
who have had awful things happen to them
that they told me about that they don't
want to make public and I'm not going to
make public because I don't have the
evidence for it either. I still support
them. I still care about them. I
communicate to them how much I do
believe them and that it's going to be
okay and I'm there. I don't put it on my
channel. I don't tie my name to it. Not
because I don't care, not because I
don't love these people and I don't feel
for them, but because there's nothing I
can do with it. You can't make an
accusation from nothing and expect
something to grow from it. I'm sorry,
but you can't.
And you have really since he the reason
I never responded in extreme detail to
the audio you sent me KP is because if I
have to every single time tell you what
the problem is, you're not growing and
learning on your own. You've got to
learn to figure these things out by
yourself to become the confident
individual you want to be. And [music]
listening to that entire diet tribe, all
it communicated to me is that you didn't
learn anything.
And I can't put a stamp of approval on
that. not as a friend and not as
somebody who cares about you. But at the
same time, if I put any push back on it,
then where are we anyways? Because the
reason another reason I didn't is
because I told you not to even put out a
response and then you come into my DMs
and tell me that you're going to do one.
So, you didn't listen to me again.
And the last time you did was again when
you made the accusations.
So, you're coming back to a guy that
>> I mean, I I
>> Go ahead. I I I I interpreted your like
if you have to one as just kind of like
you know if it'll make you feel better
kind of thing. So I guess I interpreted
that more um neutral [music] than
um than what what you meant if [music]
that makes sense.
>> Yes. But again I I stated plainly
because I'm not a person who often is
able to do subtlety. I'm about as subtle
as a shotgun. I've told you pretty
plainly don't do a response to this. If
you were to do anything, it has to be
some form of apology.
And it's not just it's not just that,
right? It's not just that. Now, I want
to preface this one cuz we're going to
move topics just slightly. If you want
to hate afficionado Chris until the day
he dies, you are 100% valid in doing so.
I will give you no I will give you no
trash talk for it. I will not degrade
you for it. you are well within your
rights and that is fine if that is the
decision you make.
But trying to build a literal what if
legal case in your response against a
man who number one um admitted that he
lied. Number two, I'm going to be real
blunt here listening to that audio. KP I
don't think I've met many people as
apologetic as him in that. So when
Becket asked you what does
accountability look like to you? That's
something you should have had the answer
to is is accountability for what Chris
did, which again even he doesn't stand
by. Even he says it's stupid and vile
and he had no business doing it. And
frankly, he probably got bullied for
saying it because as a guy, you know,
the boys club that I'm apparently in,
um, if anybody makes that type of
comment around me or anybody I know,
like any guy I know, they're going to
get bullied for it. They're going to be
made fun of like, "What are you, some
sort of weirdo creep, you sick loser?"
They're going to get bullied and made
fun of for. Nobody's going to think
they're cool over it. Even some of the
most egregious men I know who make the
the grossest of jokes, like say Vlad,
he'd call him a loser, too, and tell him
to kill himself, frankly.
Like, if the if a genuine apology and
and trying to get help isn't what you
wanted, what is it you wanted?
>> Um, well, that was something I was I I
was going to talk about. I um like on I
took down the the safety report with the
link. Riddle has is owns the the file.
So I couldn't take down the file and um
I would have clarified probably just
like I was concerned how his telling of
the story framed me to other people that
were in the room when he was telling it.
So, I think in hindsight, maybe a public
apology that didn't go into too didn't
have to like go into the actual act, but
just the fact that [music] like this
happened and like sorry like I whatever
like something like that. But I but what
basically [music]
the story grew into not just Chris but
all of the the the DA [music] game stuff
and um you know there's like I don't
know if you I don't know if you saw the
[music] whole video but um you know
victims that are that were ruined in
that space [music] that I'm not like
saying this to be like wo with me I'm
just kind of informing you about
information [music] but um you were
groomed in groomed in that space and
Will wouldn't remove like [music]
confirmed convicts and things like that.
So
I I understand your point about Chris,
but
you know, it wasn't just
it wasn't just the call. It was the the
like it wasn't just the memes he posted.
It was just kind of the continual
behavior. [music]
um mostly from Will in that space that
um that [music] isn't really being
>> okay
>> analyzed too deeply. Does that make
sense?
>> To a point, but if I recall from one of
your responses,
the the gross memes that were posted,
was that or was that not to test a
security bot?
Um [music] that apparently was a lie
because um no one could find um the uh
someone else covered it um but the
videos got taken [music] down but anyway
um uh Parlo or something but he talked
about he couldn't find a bot that could
accurately test those on top of them
instead of admitting that they [music]
did something wrong and retracted them
they just kind of kept it hush hush and
that seemed seems to be a an issue from
what the victims say that anytime
there's a big upset or like not even
like anything that's particularly like
Will's fault, but um [music] like bad
situations like you know there's a
pedophile on the server or whatever. Um
you know, they don't really seem to care
um to do anything. Again, not not just
[music] sharing information. Um,
so that was so the Chris stuff boiled up
[music] to
like, you know, like um Jamie, who
doesn't like me anymore, but Jamie um
has a whole Twitter thread about um
their [music] abuse in that space and
like the creeps and they have
screenshots and the whole thing. [music]
So, um I I you know, and that's the part
that
I wish was [music] clearer, um is
because I, you know, I was [music]
wanted to help and I was stupid, I
guess. Like I just tried to keep I just
tried to put too much in the video,
among other things. But but yeah, so I
don't know. I don't know where I'm going
with this, but [music] yeah, that those
were just my frustrations in that area.
Um,
you know, and like [music] regard like
regardless if Will it's it's Will or
it's not Will, you know, Chris still is
[music] part of that brand. And when
people are like when these kids are
getting prayed on in these servers and
no one's no one seems to do anything or
care then [music]
that I feel like is a like it, you know,
is an issue. And so it wasn't just it
wasn't particularly just that Saber
[music] wasn't willing to do anything
because of the Chris story. It was um
it was also the bigger [music]
ecosystem of that and how um again I'm
I'm not making excuses or anything. I'm
just trying to explain. [music] Um that
was that was kind of frustrating I guess
because it just seems like [music] you
know out of sight out of mind. All
right. Does that make sense?
>> Here's my question.
Who all within the mod staff did you
talk to about any of this?
What do you mean
>> about what happened in the server? About
why they didn't remove people? About all
this stuff? Cuz apparently you still had
a way to contact Chris. Did you ask him
about any of it?
>> Um, no. I haven't talked to Chris, but
no. Um, they're they're um I don't know
[music] if they're still up, but um the
original um video that we did where we
interviewed people has tons [music] of
screenshots in it about um that kind of
stuff. So,
um, which I can I can I can cut and and
give to you if you'd like.
>> I I don't I don't need it on hand, but
part of the problem.
>> Are you saying I shouldn't ask Ricks
about this?
>> I'm saying if he's in moderation there,
if the problem is that people are doing
or saying gross things, confronting them
is always the best step forward first
because that can immediately cut things
off at the head. Whenever I've had to
deal with a server that's alive and
going that allows that stuff around,
[music] the first people I immediately
go after are administration. Why are you
doing this? What's with this nonsense?
What's going on? And at that point, they
have one or two choices. Either one,
they can backtrack, apologize, and
correct the issue, or they can double
down, and I get to burn them alive.
>> The problem is with this, you didn't you
didn't contact the administration at
all, if nothing else, to at least get
bare minimum their side of things. And
that's definitely a problem on that.
>> Well, I did con well a couple of things.
[music] So, um Jamie has screenshots of
when they tried to contact Will as far
as the grooming stuff. Will sympathized
[music] but ultimately didn't even do
anything or address things from my
understanding. [music] as well as my
frustrations with like I I wasn't really
going after Chris like Chris's job. I
just wanted kind of like like
>> you know it to be looked into. Go ahead,
>> Rachel. If you weren't going after his
job, what were you expecting? Cuz it
seems to me and to anybody listen that
what you wanted was for DA and and Saber
to just fire him
for what he said about you.
Is that what you wanted?
>> Um,
I wanted a sense like some sense of
accountability. Um,
>> you do realize you do realize he
apparently did make an a public apology
some time ago, right?
>> That's after um
DA [music] did one because they because
I was getting frustrated with the fact
that they wouldn't address it directly.
So that's [music] not because they were
doing it of good faith. It's because um
like I was talking about and they were
kind of in a PR. Um
>> so let's back this up. Let's let's back
this up for just a minute.
>> Do you accept in the call you had with
him that he apologized to you?
>> Yes. But I think that [music] there
there needed to be like I wanted to be
reassured that
like DA Games Well, I can and again I
can show you the emails if you want. I
don't know if you [music] remember, but
we're taking it seriously. They were
going Yeah, they they were taking it
seriously. [music] Go ahead.
>> What is your idea of taking it
seriously? If the statement was, "I told
gross, weird jokes about something I
didn't even do and it made a co a former
co-orker who was female uncomfortable
and it's something I stopped doing and
I've apologized for and I've gotten help
for." Like, what what else is there that
needs to be said about that?
Well, I was well, for one thing, I was
frustrated that um like so like I don't
know if I I don't remember what's on the
script, but like so if the recipient
is [music]
um of the story is Will and some other
friends, like why
did I hear this story [music] from
chitter chatter and not Will saying,
"Hey, this guy's making gross sexual
stories. [music] Like, it's a it's a and
it's not just like buds being buds. If
they're working together and that's the
the working environment, [music]
then
I feel like there's there's a bigger
issue there. Like, you know what I mean?
>> If if it's something that he has
communicated with, right? I did this
thing and then I apologized for this
thing. I talked to the person I had
wronged. Why would that person reach out
to you?
No, I'm saying when Chris told the
stories originally to Will, why didn't
why were wasn't there any accountability
within the space to be like, "Oh [\h__\h]
my [music] editor is talking telling
these gross stories about women like
that's unacceptable." You know, like
it's it's not like the again they it's a
whole it's like a whole ecosystem. It's
not just buds being buds. Like he was
[music] doing that as a way to show off
to in a in a work setting.
>> So I guess that's my general
>> you're expecting true you're expecting
true professional workplace etiquette
and rules from people who do not run
one.
>> Yeah, that's that's fair. Well, that
that's you know which is you know part
of the problem I guess. But um you know
that [music] like like I said, I'm
running out of energy, but um
>> well, let me um I'll put it to you this
way then.
>> By your standards
now, anytime you have a job, by your
standards, you have to talk to them
about what you did online accusing
somebody of rape. Do you realize that?
Um,
I guess not really
>> because I I'll just be honest here.
Yeah, what Chris did was gross and
frankly uh probably needed to get kicked
for it in the teeth a few times even
before he apologized to you or rather
before he apologized to you. But like uh
I personally think that accusing
somebody of of sexual assault of rape
[music] to to hundreds of thousands of
people, that's that's a little worse in
the grand scheme of things. Uh and look,
I get it. All right. I'm going to be
just real vulnerable with you for just a
moment. All right? The man who assaulted
me like that died before you were born
and faced no accountability in this life
for it. So trust me, I get it that it
hurts.
That nobody nobody has that anger in
yourstead. That nobody picked that up
for you and said, "This is wrong and I'm
going to address it." I get that that
hurts. I [music] do. But you can't
you can't keep pursuing it. It's going
to destroy you if it hasn't already
like
>> No, I'm just thinking
>> I know you are, but like how do I put
this?
>> You are Jewish. Yes, obviously. Um, how
connected are you to your faith?
>> Oh, yeah. I'm not I'm not religious, so
if you're going to spout some Jewish
stuff at me, I'm gonna
>> Nice try. Well, it's it's not it's not
even so much about about the religious
aspect of it. It's like one of your
kings
notices that sometimes the wicked appear
successful, but that it doesn't matter
in the long run.
It's just And on top of that, if you're
if you're not if you're not religious,
you probably shouldn't have made memes
about Moses. Just just saying.
Well, I mean, [music]
it's
that's a that's a um eth [music] that's
not an ethical. That's a um
basically um
um how [music] Jewish culture works is
that um regardless, you're still Jewish,
but you either um you're either
practicing or not. [music] So, that was
the basis for that. So, like, you know,
I'm like I'm like there's like um
there's um
what is it? Um
I'm too tired to explain it, but the
like there's um it's it's a religion and
then like a [music] um a culture too.
So, that's kind of where my my
>> yeah my my [music] vantage point
essentially. But no, I
um
yeah, [music] I guess I mean I I got to
just I got to like think about
everything. Obviously, [music] I'm just
kind of overwhelmed with information,
but thank you for talking to me. I
appreciate it. [snorts]
Look, I have not
and another I I have to address one more
thing,
a couple things actually going on about
sex crimes concerning Chris in your Q&A
should never have been touched because
if it was a sex crime, you should have
gone to the police immediately. And
secondly, um saying I've cut public ties
with Courtney is literally saying
nothing.
it it what it's trying to I'm just going
to say you tried to deceive your
audience that you're just cutting public
ties with her. What that says is well
I'm not going to be seen in public with
her but everybody knows you're still
talking to her behind the scenes. What
good does that do? What's the point
there?
You can't do that to people. You can't
you can't you can't have two faces. It
doesn't work.
If you remain friends with Courtney, I'm
not going to sit here and fuss at you
about it. It is ultimately your choice.
Um, there's stuff coming out about
Courtney that I will just tell you right
now, I highly recommend you not do so.
But it's your choice. But I will say
this, this entire time I have been your
friend. I have not thrown you under a
bus. I have not given people uh license
to go public with anything you have
given me. I've not done any of that.
What happens from this point on, and I I
hate to put it this way, but I have to.
Whether we remain friends is going to be
completely dependent on how you operate
from this moment on because if you
continue double down, I can't because I
the entire reason I kicked FNGR to the
curb was cuz he made false claims about
somebody. Rachel,
>> no, I don't I don't know that that
history. I guess it's like
>> you do though my head.
>> You you do cuz that's the entire reason
you came. I know FNGR got
>> Yeah, you
>> I I know he got yelled at, but I didn't
[music] I I don't remember. Anyway,
>> you were in the stream where we talked
about it, Rachel. You were in the stream
where we talked about it.
>> Yeah, but I was like half paying
attention. Um
um what was it like a pillow or
something?
>> Yes. He accused somebody of having
sexualized images of their child when it
was just his child passed out on a weird
body pillow and he took a picture of it
cuz he thought, "Haha, that's funny."
And my kid's a little weeb
and he tried to claim that he was
sexualizing his kid. It's either way,
it's an incorrect, false claim. And I
cut Anthony for it. I've cut Coyote for
it, too.
No, I mean I guess I just have I I need
to to wrap my head around like the idea
of supporting someone but platforming
them is a different or two different
things. I think that's where my
disconnect is.
>> Okay.
>> And like I know you're probably right,
but like I just need to process that a
little bit more.
>> Okay, I'll put it to you this way.
>> Go ahead.
>> Riddle taking you in.
was,
how do I put this? Supporting you, but
he didn't he didn't go out and make it
public on all of his platforms. He
didn't sit there and and yell to the
heavens that he's living with you.
[music] That's the difference.
Privacy versus public.
There are people in my circles that have
had awful things happen to them and I'm
there for them and I tell them I am
sorry that happened and I do believe
you. But you're not going to see me put
it on my channel. That's how you support
[music] somebody without going out and
making a show of it. Especially
especially something that damaging.
I'm just going to say you have to treat
rape accusations like a loaded gun. Do
not aim it at anybody unless you're
willing to destroy them. And you have to
be dead certain about it cuz otherwise
sucker's going to looney tune on you and
shoot you instead. And that's what's
happened to you here.
>> No, I don't plan on doing anything like
this.
>> I I hope not. But
>> yeah,
>> more importantly, I I hope you just
realize that you need to just be honest
and apologize for this crap. You're
going to have to swallow your pride on
it.
You're going to have to cuz if you
don't, it's going to get worse for you
because I'm I'm telling you right now,
due to how you responded, and this is
because I've been in these spaces, I
know how they work. If you think the
riddle DMs are where that ends, it is
not. They are going to dig into
everything they can find about you. They
are going to mock you and deride you for
anything they can get their hands on. It
will not stop with the Riddle DMs being
leaked. And that is just the truth of
the matter here. That is a warning I can
give you. So, you need to decide real
quick on your own what choices you are
going to make and what you are going to
do. And you're going to have to
you have to reassess at this point your
entire life. Rachel, if even a third of
what I'm hearing is accurate.
You got to reassess everything
and hope
hope that if you apologize and you walk
everything back with the except you want
to keep saying that you think DA games
is screwed up, fine. Whatever. Right?
Just don't be belligerent about it and
make it a joke. But you have to walk
back the Saber Spark stuff if you're
going to survive.
Period. If if your platform at all
survives, you might just have to at this
point realize I just need to get a
traditional job and move on with my life
in that direction and hope that an
employer doesn't look at your online
activity.
And I hate that I have to tell you that,
but if I'm not honest with you, I'm not
your friend.
>> Right.
No, I [music] I I I get it. I I think
that's um I think that's enough for now.
Um not that you were yelling at me, but
I'm just I just need to [music] process
a little bit.
>> I get that and I'll let you go. But one
final thing, you've got to stop relying
on the weed to get you through the
stressful things.
Cuz I have a feeling you were high
Monday night, weren't you?
I don't think so.
>> Well, that entire sentence you typed to
me did not sound at all like the type of
statement somebody who wasn't was. But
I'll take your word for it. [music]
Either way, I'll go ahead and let you
go. Process it, and I genuinely hope you
make the right decision on this for your
sake, if for nothing else.
>> Yeah, I I appreciate the [music]
the advice. Okay, [snorts]
I'll let you go. Good night.
>> Okay, bye.
>> I was hoping that this direct but kind
call would highlight the issues and that
she'd make the right decision. There's
absolutely nothing wrong about believing
someone on a matter like this and
supporting them privately. Not at all.
However, it became clear that the
council was once again being ignored
when we get back into the DMs the very
next day. Good morning. Something I
forgot to ask you last night. Are you
privacy striking people's videos?
>> I did. I'm stopped though. Yeah, that
wasn't a good move. I recommend
apologizing for that. Also, I'm going to
ask again, and please be aware that I'm
not angry, but how much was Courtney
involved with your responses? Because
someone else has already revealed that
she was deeply involved with them to
another person. If you lied about that
last night, whether it be out of fear or
to protect her, I'm going to ask right
now that you be honest with me on the
level of her involvement.
>> What do you mean? Like comment-wise?
[music]
comment, helping with the scripting,
guiding you, all of it.
>> She's been helping me on a friend level.
She hasn't been manipulating me or
anything, like support.
>> KP, with all due respect, you genuinely
have a hard time telling when you're
being manipulated. Has she been helping
you with what to say in your responses?
>> She's been giving me feedback on my
speaking because of how nervous I am.
Look, I have something I had written up
after thinking last night. Let [music]
me send that.
>> Okay. Hey, I've been thinking a lot
about our conversation last night. There
were some things I didn't bring up,
partly because I didn't have the energy
and partly because the focus was more on
you and how you were feeling. Just so
you know where I'm at, I haven't decided
to do anything one way or another. I
just need to chill and take some space
for now. But I also think you've become
a little normalized some of the behavior
happening around all of this and that
it's making it hard for you to see how
damaging it actually is. For example,
with the riddle leaks. Yes, he was
venting, but he was also giving my
medical information to someone he knew
was untrustworthy and had been doing for
a long time.
That that's okay, that sentence doesn't
make sense. And had been doing so for a
long time. This wasn't a one-off mistake
or a moment of frustration. It was
deliberate. And if this happened in
December, I wasn't even living with him
anymore. So, yeah, there was definitely
some malicious intent there. You're
giving him a huge benefit of the doubt
without looking at what he did
objectively. And that really concerns
me. As for the Becket situation, I know
you might not believe this, but I trust.
She and I talk almost every day, and she
has absolutely no reason to lie to me.
She got off her call with Becket and
immediately told me what had happened.
Based on that, I think there's a lot
more going on here than you're giving
credit for. Becket's been breaking
social boundaries and engaging in
behavior that borders on sexual
harassment. I think he's been far more
manipulative than you're realizing. I
assume that's what you mean by a friend
of a friend. Regarding the privacy
strikes, this isn't about censoring
criticism, but protecting my personal
information and privacy at this point.
Privacy is also in question when people
are discussing private relationships
with friends. I've reached my limit.
Also, just so you are aware, been really
overwhelmed according to her. So, she's
laying low right now, but maybe down the
line I can help set up a conversation
between you two because I think hearing
her directly would give you a better
picture of what's been happening. So,
yeah, I still need space. I'm not angry,
but I'm hurt. This isn't just about
optics or videos. It's about trust,
boundaries, and the fact that decisions
were made about me instead of with me. I
value our friendship and I don't want to
lose it, but right now I need some
distance until things feel safe again.
I'll keep your opinions about what to do
in mind [music] and I think I'll spend
more time listening to what the
frustrations are before I make any
decisions. I appreciate you bringing
this stuff to me, but based on what I
brought up here, I do think your
perception is a little skewed. Going
forward, I prefer to stick to text
instead of calls. I process things
better that way and can articulate
myself more clearly in writing. Given
your grammar, honey, I I don't think you
do. Oh, and I know you are concerned
about my health on this, but yesterday
was actually a pretty decent day, and
I'm naturally not been using as much
weed in the last 1 to 2 weeks or so.
This whole time, I've been working on
something unrelated to YouTube that I'm
just about to finish. So, I'm trying to
find some productivity in all this and
deal with it in a healthy way. I'm going
to throw myself in that for a bit while
I process things a bit more and talk to
my therapist [music] about all of this.
>> All right, so a couple things. Riddle's
DMs were not dated from December.
It was like June or July.
So, it wasn't during that time period.
So, I don't know where you're getting
December [music] from, to be clear, cuz
I have seen those DMs. Privacy strikes
do not protect your privacy at [music]
all. It doesn't even make anything come
off the video. And on top of that, once
[music] it's out, you can't put the cap
back in the bag. Now, I'm going to get
real blunt here for you, and I know you
prefer text. Right [music] now I'm
sending a voice message cuz I can't send
text
is the one who told Becket that Courtney
has their hand in everything here and
that they are the [music] main force
pushing you and that their involvement
in this is heavy. So if you trust you
can but I'm telling you right now you
may want to reconsider that as far as
your other concerns. I hate to tell you
this but I'm being a little bit more
objective than you are. You're putting
all the onus on your feelings, which I
can understand to a point [music]
instead of the impact of your actions.
If you need to take a break before you
need to figure out what to do, that's
fine. That makes sense. Just be aware
that you can't center these things on
how you feel. You have to center them on
what is and what [music] you've what
you've done to other people essentially.
Now, as far as Beckett's behavior, I
don't know what you're referring to on
the sexual harassment direction. [music]
If you do feel like he is sexually
harassing you, I would encourage you to
file a police report because [music] if
it's sexual harassment, it's against the
law. So, feel free to do that.
It was genuinely an accident. It's also
why he removed it. So,
let me know what you decide once you
take [music] your break, once you figure
out what you're going to do, and we'll
go from there.
>> Hey, Lio, I listened to what you said
and I appreciate that you're [music]
trying to keep perspective, but I need
to clarify a few things. I understand
that objectivity matters, but framing
what I've been through as feelings
[music] instead of a larger pattern of
what's happened misses some important
context. I've owned my role in how
things unfolded, but that doesn't mean
other people's actions haven't crossed
serious lines. You seem to be minimizing
that whether you mean to or not. When
someone leaks private conversations,
discusses my medical information, or
publicly harasses me, that's [music] not
just gossip or impact. It's a violation
of privacy and boundaries. I need you to
recognize that this isn't just about
emotion or perception. There are real
consequences. I also need to be honest
that your decision to involve Becket
without clearer communication left me
feeling unprotected. I wish that had
been discussed more transparently.
[music] I understand your point about
the legal side, but I also need to
clarify something important. From my
understanding, in streams, Beckett
repeatedly speculates about my sex life
and calls me things like [\h__\h] or
spinster publicly. That is sexual
harassment. Whether or not this is a
prosecutable crime doesn't change the
fact that it's a violation of dignity
and safety. Framing it as something I
can just file a police report over
minimizes what's actually happening
here. This isn't a misunderstanding.
It's targeted at harassment. I'm not
asking you to take sides, but I do want
space to process this in my own time and
to have my boundaries respected in that
process. I'll keep your feedback in
mind, but please understand that
objectivity can't come at the expense of
empathy or safety. Made a statement
basically saying I needed more time with
[music] things on my community tab, just
so you are aware. But I think this is a
good stopping place for now. I just
spoke to just now and she denied stating
anything about Courtney's involvement.
Though she did say Becket asked about
it, she gave a no comment and reminded
me that she indeed was asked about that
the other night. She implied to even
people thinking about that is stretching
things a bit. Though I will state I
trust her 1,000% and believe everything
she says. So take that as you may. She
is also not a public figure so she has
absolutely nothing to gain by lying.
She's afraid of being again. That's the
last I'll say today.
>> She sent me a final message while I was
at work and unfriended me. I'm only
going to have the tail end of that read
out as it's the most important part.
>> P.S. I would warn your little friends
that I have sent, as in [music] already
pending, DMCA takedowns for anything,
both videos and streams, using private
or leaked information. Commentary is
within their right, but anything more is
a violation of my privacy, boundaries,
and threatens my safety. I think we both
know that going to the police when
someone is sexually harassing you on the
internet is a moot point. You have my
consent to warn others. PSS, I have not
outed Barbie/Maggie as the leaker of the
earlier V2 script out of pure kindness,
but I am getting increasingly aggravated
by who Becket has been sending to Prod
for info, assumingly without your full
knowledge. I might disclose this in the
future while keeping her information
private based on escalating concerns,
privacy, and clarity. Now that I have
documentation she was lying about her
associations with Becket [music] this
whole time, you have my permission to
warn the potential affected parties. So
now she's going around copyright
striking people critical of her.
Something she honestly doesn't have the
legal right to do. I've said this on
Twitter, but if she was just striking
raw re-uploads of her original video,
I'd defend that. It's within her legal
right, and I've done that to people who
have done it with my content as well.
The problem is she's not doing that.
This is malicious. and other things that
have been shared with me behind the
scenes also calls into question whether
or not any of this was about children's
safety as well. Like accusing
afficionado Chris of a sex crime by
rewriting history after she previously
and repeatedly acknowledged that the
story he made was made up and a joke. At
most, it could be considered sexual
harassment there. Putting the focus on
Chris again proves to everyone that this
was never about children being hurt. You
can't do that. This is an absolute
dumpster fire, but one she lit herself.
At this point, there's no way her
channel can recover from this, but it's
the path she chose. That brings me to
this Twitter screen cap that she posted
to hype up her video. Firstly, if you
see the biblical story of the Exodus as
exposing something, then you're probably
too social media. It wasn't exposing, it
was judgment against the tyranny of
Pharaoh and against the Egyptian gods. A
judgment carried out by the Hebrew god
Yahweh. The interesting thing here is
that in this KP is dressed up as Moses.
The weird thing is the entire scenario
does have some biblical parallels. It's
just that KP isn't Moses. She's Pharaoh.
She was visited multiple times by people
telling her to do the right thing. And
every time she didn't, disaster struck.
At this point, we're at the final plague
where the closest thing to her firstborn
son to her currently, her YouTube
channel and desired career in animation
has now died. She can't blame Moses nor
the God he serves. Not honestly. She can
only blame herself. I don't know what's
going to happen from this point on. I
tried to be KP's friend and I tried to
stop her, but it's clear she's just
going to continue on this destructive
path. Whether from pride or sunk cost
fallacy, who knows? But I refuse to stay
quiet about this any further and just
hope she wakes up. So hopefully this is
the wakeup call she needs. It's possible
KP may strike this video as well due to
the screen caps regardless of the fact
that she doesn't have a copyright on
them. If she does, I'll be real, it's
not going to end well for her. I'm
already pissed off enough. KP, you need
to release every single false strike you
put out today. I'm tired. I'm tired of
dealing with adults in general that act
like idiots, but it's even worse when
it's a friend. And worseer still that
it's something this destructive. But she
made her bed and she's got to lay in it.
Going to sign off for now. Take care.