To me, and this is just my opinion, this
statement reads far more like somebody
who was pissed off and has been pissed
off for years that the guy she liked
decided not to date her. And I say this
because my experience now that Enter's
video and the interview with Emily is
out, I think we have all the information
that we'll ever be able to get. It just
sucks there's no definitive answer and
that we will have to come to our own
conclusions on whether or not the
incident between Saber and Emily
actually happened. But that's just
indicative of how much of a mess this
whole situation is regardless of what
happened. Well, hold your ponies there,
random commenter, because you've only
heard one side of this particular story.
And by the time that we're done today,
you're going to learn that the truth is
way more insane than you can possibly
imagine. Because what I have for you
today isn't just the full testimony of
Saber Spark himself, but also his DMs
with his accuser between December 2012
and June 2013. Yes, that's right. We're
going to finally have some evidence as
to what the relationship between these
two actually look like. And as you can
probably tell from my tone, it doesn't
really match the narrative Emily is
trying to present. But the thing that
makes my head spin is I'm like, "This is
such a destructive and serious thing to
allege." And yeah, it happened a long
time ago, but what if there what if
there is still evidence that you lied,
which by the way, there is. I was able
to get the text messages and I will
continue to push forward. I still feel
like there's still some stones I need to
turn over through the most professional
means possible with data retrieval,
though I've spent hundreds so far doing
this. Hundreds and hundreds. But, um, as
it stands, I've at least found enough to
say that Emily is lying and that what
she has said is definitively untrue. So,
welcome to part two, ladies and
gentlemen. Now, we've got a lot to get
through, and I don't want to make this
one two hours, so let's get into it.
The accusation that I sexually assaulted
someone is completely false. And that
triggered me and upset me. Being
anonymous is more than just not saying
your name. It's actually a lot more
difficult than you might think.
Something better could come out of this
if you can talk to us. So, let's start
with an insanely quick TLDDR of what's
happened since my video came out. If you
would like a more full breakdown, I
would recommend just going and having a
watch of that. But the cliffnotes are
that I love Kim Possible a lot released
a video largely focusing on DA games but
also including rape allegations against
Saber Spark. This didn't go down very
well and has led to the exposure of a
years'sl long conspiracy. The people
involved in this bizarre web of intrigue
have taken a range of tactics to avoid
culpability. From pretending they're not
involved and basically knew nothing
about it all the way to smuggly tweeting
as though they've done nothing wrong.
Oh, and Brony Fandone was released from
hospital and is now doing everything he
can to try and rebuild his shattered
reputation. But perhaps far more
importantly, Emu Emmy did an interview
with Mr. Enter and he would release this
along with his video on June the 2nd.
Now, don't worry, we will actually come
back to this interview because it
contains some pretty fascinating
information. But for those who've been
looking for my take on Enter's video, I
think it's broadly speaking fine and
what I expected. In many ways, Enter had
the far harder job than me and seems to
have worked well with what he had. From
here on out, I'm going to work largely
on the basis that most of you are going
to know what's happened and the parties
involved. However, I do think it is
worth providing a refresher on Saber
Spark's accuser as well as the
allegations themselves. On May 1st,
2025, anonymous allegations would drop
against Saber Spark that he had
committed sexual assault. It would then
be revealed that the accuser was Emu
Emmy, a fairly sized creator largely
focused around the Sonic fandom, though
with a long history involving the Brony
fandom. This caused some issue because
Emily's history is somewhat complicated
and contains multiple other
controversies involving sex scandals.
The ones most of you will be aware of
will be her relationship with former
Sonic voice actor Ryan Drummond, as well
as Emily's appearance on Dr. Phil in an
episode about her wanting to be a
teenage mother. There are a couple of
issues with finding out that it is Emily
making these accusations. Firstly, this
chick has about as much credibility as a
homeless man wearing a sign saying the
end is nigh. With many of her former
issues being outlined in Lance's video,
The Queen falls. Though, secondly, and
most importantly, Emily's testimony
reads like it's written about a
completely different person. If you know
anything about Emu Emmy, the statement
itself reads like fantasy. Now, because
of these text messages, I can say she
has omitted key details as to the nature
of their relationship. They were far
closer than she is claiming in her
statements and in her correspondence to
other people looking into this story.
The reason this is so important is
because the accusations against Saber
Spark are dependent on what their
relationship looked like. Emily claims
that they had limited interactions
ending after November of 2012. In that
time, they would have two sexual
encounters, once in a hotel room and
once in a bathroom. Both would take
place at conventions. The first at
Canterlot Gardens in September and the
second at Equestria LA in November. The
key to both of these allegations is that
Emily claims they essentially came as a
surprise to her with Saber Spark
essentially forcing her into them. For
that reason, she was distancing herself
from him and by the end of November
wanted nothing to do with him, which
causes a little bit of an issue when we
find a further 6 months of very pleasant
correspondence between the two. Though,
I am pleased to tell you at least one
element of all of this has remained
consistent for over the last decade, and
that would be Emily's anger at
rejection. Which brings us to Saber
Spark, because obviously since his
response came out, he has not been idol.
Now, he did speak to us after his
response, but that was all off the
record. So, I tried very hard to balance
that in part one because, as you may
have gathered, Sabre and Emmy did have
some kind of a relationship. And for a
couple of reasons, Sabre wasn't prepared
to go on the record and talk about it at
that time. The most pressing is that
Sabre was sure that there would be
evidence that would support his
innocence in the face of these
allegations. So use that time to turn
his house upside down looking for old
hard drives, old phones, anything that
may still hold those records. While
there have been undoubtedly dead ends,
Sabre's actually consistently documented
the work he's done to prove his
innocence. And timing being everything,
Sabre would actually only get a hold of
these text messages the day enters video
goes live. The problem with accusations
like these that are once again over a
decade old is that any response you give
outside of some actual bloody evidence
will be used against you to paint you as
guilty. And Sabre seems to have
correctly assessed this fact because its
options were insanely limited. Even
saying nothing beyond a flat denial has
been used against him. And that's
understandable. People don't really care
what Saber's side is. People care that
they hate Sabre and want an excuse to
take a shot at him. I get this. There's
content creators I don't like, and it's
fun to see them fall face first into the
dirt. But realistically speaking,
without any evidence, his testimony
would still be treated as a he said, she
said. In situations like that, the
question comes down to the credibility
of the accuser, which is why Emily was
asked over the course of a 3-hour
interview to address her former
controversies.
However, if you even have to have a call
that is multiple hours long with an
accuser to try and establish their
credibility, I'd argue that's not a
particularly good sign. And one thing I
want to make crystal clear to all of you
is that Emily has lied multiple times,
both privately and publicly, in an
attempt to obiscate what her
relationship with Saber Spark looked
like. That's not just my opinion, by the
way, because once I'd had time to review
these DMs, I reached out to Mr. Enter.
Thinking it only fair that he'd be given
a fuller picture. And as you may
imagine, he was [\h__\h] pissed. Enter.
Thanks for chatting with me. Uh this is
just a very simple one cuz we've uh kind
of discussed these DMs, but considering
the fact that when going through this
kind of conversation with Emily, she
just outright lied to you about the fact
that she pulled away, Sabre didn't
contact her, um and this sort of like
their communication ended by sort of
late November.
Knowing what you know now, I I guess
what are your thoughts and opinions
considering they had another six months
of correspondence?
I am very angry at Emily. That's for
start. Like it it really is
indescribable what I feel like anger,
annoyance,
disgust because like we were some of the
people who were talking to her, like
some of the only people who were talking
with her and she still lied to us.
I mean, I think yeah, I I've I've seen
these DMs between you all and it seems
like you were pretty thorough with
asking questions. I don't know. It it
seems crazy that
she was so determined to try and spin a
narrative to you guys and still couldn't
just be honest cuz what I find kind of
crazy as well is she could have just
said, "Yeah, yeah, I continued talking
to Sabre for 6 months." Yeah,
absolutely. She she could have done any
number of things, but like the the
contradictions are like right there now
that we have Saber's information.
I maybe she assumed that he'd never be
able to find it, which is a stupid
assumption, but like I I don't get the
logic. Like I'm baffled on every level.
Yeah, I do think that she was sort of
hedging her bets. And I think because
Sabers's, you know, it's been a long
time. I think Sabre says this actually
when talking to me. It's, you know, it's
like 12 years ago, but you you know,
it's a hell of a gamble that Saber would
have no no data at all. Um, and I think
that that that was the bet and seems
like the bet didn't work. Considering
the [\h__\h] Brony Fandone has tried to pull
with Enter, I imagine this felt like the
icing on the cake. But don't worry, I'm
not about to let Bonk run away from
this. So later in this video, we're
going to go over his DMs with Enter and
the insane [\h__\h] he was saying to him.
Before all of the fun to come, let's get
to why the majority of you are here. The
best way I can kind of break this all
down for you is firstly to give you
Saber Spark's testimony and then we can
move on to why these text messages give
credibility to his version of events.
Now, one quick disclaimer. Regular
viewers will be aware that I like to
show full interview sections. There's a
couple of reasons for this, but it's
mostly so you guys get to see the full
conversation rather than me linking to
some hours long video that, let's be
honest, barely anyone's going to watch.
But given that this conversation was
largely a very detailed testimony, it is
insanely long. So, I'm going to break
this up a little bit versus Emily's
original statements, and I've also made
a couple of edits just to maintain the
flow of the conversation. Let's start
with how you met Emily.
We connected just from being in the
Bernie fandom. Uh 2012 was the year
where the fandom really took off. I
mean, technically 2010, 2011, but 2012
was when the conventions really showed
up in force. Uh where the fandom just
took off. There was something just so
electrifying about the fandom after
Brony Con 2012, which I was able to go
to. And I actually went to four
conventions in 2012. I went to Bernie
Con, Everree Northwest, Carol Gardens,
and Equestria LA. And I remember um
being told by the con chef for Cal
Gardens, who was like, "Hey, we want to
fly you out to Ohio to come to our
convention." I'm like, "That sounds
great." And the rest of the summer, I
was looking forward to it. Uh get to go
see my friends again, uh Everfree Radio,
which is uh Everree Network at the end
of its run. uh they were going to be
there meeting a bunch of the show staff
um hanging out with people having fun
doing panels uh just networking having a
great time and I was doing brony videos
at the time like top 10s I was building
a name for myself on YouTube I think I
had around like 20 or 25,000 subscribers
and above all else I was hosting a
podcast uh with my friend Paleo Steno
and it was called Bernie Breakdown and
we've been doing that since I think the
beginning of 2012 if I'm correct. Yeah.
pretty sure actually it might have even
been late 2011. So,
um, in the process of having the show,
we got picked up by EverFree Radio for
them to work alongside us and host it as
well. Um, and I'm pretty damn sure
that's how we connected, me and Emily,
cuz she would watch the show. And at
that time, like bronies were so excited
to be like, "You're a brony, I'm a
brony. We should all talk on Skype." And
that's how we connected. We we talked on
Skype and a lot of it was us just
initially nerding out over Brony stuff.
Uh she liked my podcast, like my videos.
Uh talked about just the show itself,
episodes are coming out. We were nerd
out over that. I think season 2 was
already going on during that time and
season 2 was really good. So, I was just
nerding out, talking about things we
enjoyed with the fandom and how she
wanted to do her own podcast with her
friend Sandre, which they would
eventually launch in August of 2012
called Pegasisters Live, which we all
would laugh being like, "Oh, we're the
boy version with Bernie Breakdown, and
you're the girl version with Pegasisters
Live." Eventually, you know, you'd been
How long would you say you were talking
roughly before you actually met up with
Emily? say two to three months because I
remember us chatting
I'd say the start of summertime and then
Clock Gardens would be in late
September. So it was it was a good 2 to
3 months. What was the leadup to
Canterlot Gardens then? What was that
like between you two?
Uh again just us being friendly talking
about the show. Uh eventually the text
would turn flirty. uh she told me that
she was a mom but she did not have uh
that she was no longer with the guy that
you know her daughter's father and that
would eventually become a discussion of
her being single and I was like oh I'm
single too and the conversation would
then become more flirty more fun with
that kind of you know back and forth and
eventually we both floated the idea of
being friends with benefits and looking
at Cal Gardens as a place where we could
potentially hook up and at the time. I
mean, I was I I was uh absolutely
inexperienced. Had no idea. Uh but
again, it was nothing where I was like I
wouldn't say I was in over my head. Uh
cuz we definitely went with just, you
know, going with the energy of the
conversation. Um her just really saying,
"Yeah, let's let's let's you know, go to
the convention and and definitely was
keen on the idea of us being friends
with benefits."
Okay. Um cuz she says that she was, you
know, she she positioned you as this
sort of creator with this weird power
dynamic with her and she was a massive
fan and stuff. Do you think that you
held some sort of power or influence
over her?
I would say no. And I can only at least
say for myself that I never saw it as
such. I always just saw us as friends
and that the rapport was genuine and
equal. Uh, I mean, of course, I was an
older guy, but even then it was I I was
23. I think I was I just turned 23. I
was I was 23 cuz I I remember graduating
in spring of 2012 and I was a super
senior, so I was 23. Um, no, I never
picked up any kind of like, you know,
I'd say power uh discrepancy or
anything. It was just, you know, us
talking and us having a good rapport and
us being friends. What this early
relationship between Saber Spark and
Emily actually looked like is something
that all of us largely have to take on
testimony. However, two key things weigh
heavily in Saber Spark's favor in this
regard. Firstly, in my original video, I
said there are of course no perfect
victims and none of us should have those
expectations. But in a case like this
where there is no evidence for the
accusations being made, the credibility
of the accuser is basically all I or
anyone else has to go on. And even
leaving aside Emily's multiple other sex
scandals. The more we look into this,
the more we find that Emily is being
dishonest in this case. If she will
happily lie about what her relationship
with Sav looked like from December 2012
onwards, what makes any of us think
she's not lying about what it looked
like during the several months when they
were seeing each other? And secondly,
these text messages prove that far from
Emily's statements to Mr. Enter that she
was pulling away from Saber Spark having
realized that he was in some way
abusive, the opposite is true. It was
Saber Spark who pulled away from Emily.
This rejection deeply upset her. That's
not just an opinion, by the way, because
when we look at her 2025 statement
accusing Saber Spark, this exact
grievance which made me suspicious to
begin with is her primary highlighted
issue to Saber Spark. Throughout their
later correspondence, we can see that
her feelings about this haven't changed
in over a decade because between the two
statements, the language she uses is
basically identical as she lambasts him
for messing with her emotions. Adding
further weight to this, I reached out to
her ex-boyfriend Sorak. And when I
brought up the fact that the messages
indicated that Emily was mad at Sabre
for ghosting her, Sorax said to me she
takes that so damn personally, like it's
the worst thing someone could have done
to her back in the day. While none of us
were in the room at this time, there is
no reason to believe that this was
anything other than a consensual and
planned hookup at a convention. In fact,
Emily's own statements support this
position, saying that she developed a
crush on him and that he was made aware
of it. Regarding the claim that Emily
would become flirtatious with Saber
Spark, we can actually look to the
messages in 2013 after Emily broke up
with Sra where she would return to this
behavior. And once again, I'd like you
to keep in mind that this is proof that
her testimony is fundamentally
unreliable because she has claimed
during the period these messages were
sent, she had already pulled away from
Saber Spark and cut contact with him.
One thing I have heard at Nauseium from
the believe all victim side is that we
should not make victims recount and
relive embarrassing events when they
have suffered abuse. And I'll be honest
with you, I don't necessarily disagree
with that position. So it feels deeply
[\h__\h] up that these people have forced
Sabre to have to do just that to defend
himself. I mean at the time was she
friends with just you? Did other people
know about her? Uh what does that wider
group dynamic look like? So the main
group I would roll with at conventions
being the Everfree uh network people,
Everree Radio at the time and Paleo. Uh,
at the convention I shared a room with
Palos Deno, again my co-host for Bernie
Breakdown, our friend Hiroashi, a Bernie
musician by the name of So Great and
Powerful. We had a lot of people shoved
in our room. Um, but Johnny, the con
chair of Everree Northwest, and then Rob
Bob, who is a friend of ours to this
day. And so, how many people are we
talking
in that room? Yeah. Oh, in the room cuz
we all we had a king-sized bed. Uh, and
we were all shoved in the same room
where but Johnny and Rob Bob asked if
they can crash on the floor in the fold
out couch. We said sure. But it was Oh
no, there was Silin too. He was a
burning musician. So it was me, Paleo,
so great and powerful, Hiroashi, Silin,
Baji, and seven people. And would would
they be able to uh sort of testify to
that? I guess if that's the word for it,
like if if they were asked, they were
like, "Yeah, the room is full of
people." Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And
Paleo is already on record saying that.
So let's let's talk about your
interactions at Cantalot Garden. Walk me
walk me through
your version of events.
Yes. So
again, inexperienced
and I did not tell my roommates that uh
me and Emily had plans to hook up at our
hotel room. And it was during the
convention where most folks were on the
con floor where Emily and I both holding
hands took off to the my room and we sat
down. Uh I was you know shooting the
bridge with her talking about YouTube
videos and projects and her own podcast
and everything and then it went you know
just mutually just film the vibes the
room to kissing and then moved to the
bed and that's where we you know had
intercourse. Though I was not good at
it. I was extremely nervous. There was
so many things and it wasn't that she
made me nervous. It wasn't her. It was
the idea of someone walking into the
room cuz I was like I didn't tell
anybody and uh they have keys in the
rooms and I just feel like so
embarrassed if they walked in and just
saw my butt or whatever. But um yeah uh
I I couldn't really perform. That was
the main thing. I was really embarrassed
and I was able we were able to have a
little bit of intercourse but only for
like I'd say not even for like a minute
and ultimately I was like I can't do
this. I can't. Um and that's why you
know I I was like let's let's just call
it for now. Let's just you know keep
hanging out. And I was also extremely
busy at the convention which you know I
said let's hang out. And we really never
really hung out after that. The rest of
the convention she would text me about
wanting to hook up again. I remember her
texting me hey let's let's party. I
remember I was on a panel after that and
she was in the audience in the front row
like waving at me and uh I remember her
texting me saying you know we should
let's party in later winky face uh but
we never did because again the room was
shared by multiple people and then also
uh just never had the time I was I was I
was in so many interviews that uh I was
hosting for every radio for myself. I
mean, is there anything else about I
guess kind of gone because I mean, the
way this seems to be described from her
side is she froze up, she locked up, uh,
she start disassociating,
then phoned her friend straight
afterwards. I mean, you know, obviously
these seem like, you know, different
interactions. I I've got, you know,
we've got no way to know who that friend
was. It It seems odd to me. Obviously,
if you've got sort of testimony of there
were multiple people in this who had
access to this room, this is the moment
you pick to rape somebody. You know, I
I'm just wondering if there's anything
else here that's you know could come to
light or that you you know was done said
anything else you can remember. No, I
mean that her her recollection of events
are incorrect. We you know we're both
having fun enough for her to text me
afterwards about wanting the hookup
later at the convention. Uh she never
froze up. Uh she, you know, it was it
was just a enthusiastic mutual hookup.
Uh one that I couldn't perform. I I I
couldn't. Um just enough to have, you
know, basically the definition of
intercourse. But after that, I was like,
I I can't. And I went to the bathroom
after that and I was like, h, you know,
cleaning myself off cuz I was way too
anxious. I was way too nervous of the
idea of my friends walking into the room
cuz that would be just something I I I
didn't want that. And I realized how bad
of an idea it was to do this in a room
where like I have all my friends sharing
it and also a bed that they share as
well. I mean she seems to have a very
specific memory of you saying friends
afterwards. Um uh I did say that cuz
again the running joke that we had
leading up to that was friends with
benefits. So we'd say friends. So that
that is that is something I said
afterwards. My entire thing when I'm
feeling insecure and embarrassed is
self-deprecating humor. I'm like well
you know wasn't that good. O uh but
friends and uh and she laughed and said
friends too. So that was our running gag
or running joke. But one awkward sexual
encounter wouldn't explain why Sabre
began to pull away from Emily. The truth
of that is a little more complicated.
For those of you who've been paying
attention to Emily's history and
patterns of behavior, I don't think this
part's going to come as much of a
surprise to any of you. So after that,
we kept texting, skyping um
and uh
she told me prior to the convention that
she had an IUT. So I remember asking her
about condoms and she said, "Don't worry
about that. I have an IUT." And that she
got it after she had her kid. And I took
her word for it. And so we had
unprotected sex. And
after the convention, I was super
anxious cuz at the time I was uh living
with my mom. I was a lifeguard with no
savings and I just finished college. So
I had no prospects and no way to to
really pursue anything serious cuz I
needed to work on myself. So the anxiety
started to get me when she told me she
wasn't getting her period. And I was
like, "Oh my god." Um
is she pregnant? which is I'm like how
how you know with an IUD and also me not
finishing but also me googling that
didn't help with the idea of like well
technically you know there's other ways
from just you know you don't have to
climax in order for to procreate and and
that ate me up. It ate me up for a month
and I remember texting her being like
can you please get a pregnancy test? I
will pay for it please. And she would
say no. She was just too scared and she
would rather wait until Equestria LA a
month later to meet up with me and we
can talk about it then. So it was a
month of just pure anxiety. I remember
uh being in my bed one night where I
started crying and I was like God please
uh please let this not be the case. I'm
not ready to be a father. I was ready to
accept you know anything that would
happen. Um,
but at the same time, I was just so it
was gut-wrenching just waiting for that
news because I knew I was fullying I was
I could barely take care of myself, let
alone, you know, potentially having a
kid. And just that waiting for that
other shoe to drop just gave me, you
know, just gut rot. So, uh, that was the
main thing. There were still friendly
interactions in the meanwhile. You know,
we still had a rapport. we still were
cordial and and everything, but the main
thing was just the anxiety of waiting
cuz for some reason she didn't want to
take a pregnancy test even though I
asked her. But again, it's it's her
decision. I can't force that. So, I'm
like, "Okay, we'll just wait till
Equestria LA cuz she said she wanted to
do it in person, you know, that." And
how how long a time was that between
Cantalot and Equestria LA? Uh, Cantalot
Gardens ended. It was September 30th is
when it wrapped up. And then Equestria
was in early November. Like I think it
was like November 2nd to the 4th. And
now we're starting to see a better
picture of why that second hookup didn't
look like the first one. They were
already experiencing issues with their
casual relationship.
This potential pregnancy deeply troubled
Saber Spark. And from his perspective,
that's not really a surprise. He knew
Emily's history. He knew she already had
a kid. And let's be honest, at the time
this guy's biggest achievement in life
was making videos about cartoon ponies.
This isn't somebody anywhere near ready
to be a father. It is interesting, isn't
it, that this was completely omitted
from Emily's original statements. I
imagine because this fact makes it quite
clear that their relationship was
somewhat closer and more familiar than
Emily paints in her accusation. However,
I was surprised to find one reference to
this from Emily. While being questioned
by Mr. Enter, she does bring up this
potential pregnancy, saying, "I remember
texting him worried about getting
pregnant because my period came late and
him telling me that he would handle it
if so, but my period came and stuff.
That was pretty much it." Enter would
respond, "The details do help paint a
picture." And he's not wrong. It's just
unfortunate for Emily that the details
of this story make it clear that she is
lying about stuff. And every time she
gets caught obfiscating the truth or
manipulating the narrative, it further
chips away at what little credibility
this woman has. That then brings us to
EQLA. Were you in a big room share
again? Like how many other people are
sort of with you? Um this time around I
was sharing a room. I I'm pretty damn
sure it was with Paleo
and Dusty Cat and Screw Ball. Uh there
was a
I'm pretty sure it was either it's
either 2012 or 2013, but we it was it
was a room where we had uh I still had
three roommates cuz that was always like
the standard for the longest time. We
were at the Alpine Inn uh near Anaheim
near Disney. So that was a lot of fun
and that that was my room situation
while uh Emily was some other hotel in
that area. There's a big block of
hotels.
Okay. So I'd assume I'm assuming you'd
planned to meet up um there. So but you
planned to meet up for a pregnancy test.
So what happened with this other
apparent uh interaction where you took
her into a bathroom and I think she's
mentioned something about a basement.
Yeah, she claimed that. So, we met up at
a hotel on I'm pretty sure it was
Thursday or f it was a two-day con. I
think it was a Friday, Saturday
convention. So, it was either Thursday.
It was the day before the convention.
And uh we met up there was like this air
this this not basement, but this lower
level at this nice Hilton hotel. I'm
pretty sure it was a Hilton. It was a
nice hotel in the area. And I remember
meeting up with her and we hugged and
again just nicities. You know, I
definitely felt this anxiety just
waiting. I I want to know the answer is
the main thing. At that point, I wasn't
angry at Emily. You know, I'm not angry
at her. I was confused that she wouldn't
do a pregnancy test, but I'm like, let's
just, you know, now we're here together.
And we're asking her uh we we start
walking around the hotel, by the way,
just catching up. Um, and we went down
to like this gym floor and uh we sat
down on this bench and she was leaning
her head against me. I remember being
like, you know, can we do the pregnancy
test? Uh, cuz I my anxiety was in the
better of me where I'm like, you know, I
would uh this is nice hanging out with a
pretty girl, but like I still want to uh
find out. And she was like, no, no, no,
no. I I I'm I'm not ready for that.
Like, can't we just, you know, hang out
and can't we just, you know, hang out
and have fun? And I'm like, okay, I I
guess it can wait till the end of the
convention. And uh yeah, you know, her
resting her head against me, turn
flirty, you know, and just her and I
start kissing and then uh she grabs my
hand and we stand up and we both
mutually, you know, walked to the
bathroom and it was empty. The entire
floor was completely, you know, empty.
Uh there was like some people in the gym
nearby. It was a big gym. But um yeah,
we went into the bathroom and she you
know did that for me cuz she wanted to
take the edge off for me cuz I was she
was you know I know you're nervous and
and we did that and um you know it was
it was it felt like you know we're in a
bathroom if someone walks in like like
before what if someone walks in and my
anxiety is getting the better of me in
in tandem with knowing that there's also
the anxiety of waiting for this
pregnancy test. Um, I was able to
perform a bit better this time around.
But, uh, but yeah, it was again a mutual
hookup. That was that was always the
energy, always through consent, always
through just, you know, us talking,
vibing, uh, picking up, you know, just
like body language as far as her kissing
me, touching me, and me reciprocating.
So, that was that. And, uh, again, I I
see it as we we were still friends with
benefits, you know, even though we're
waiting for this. I wanted an answer for
his question, but we're still friends
with benefits.
So, I I believe her claim was, you know,
you pushed her into an elevator and um
were quite aggressive with her. Um and
hurt her. So, none of that really
occurred or
cuz I never was aggressive and I never
hurt her. I don't recall the elevator. I
don't know why we would go up to go back
down. I do know the bathroom was at the
bottom floor, but no, I was I was never
aggressive or pushing her or shoving
her. So, I believe again, this is her
claim. We met in a public space, but no
one was around and we talked for a
while. He kept bringing up prospects of
a starting relationship, but how it felt
wrong. He grabbed my hand, saying how it
felt so right, only to push my head
away, saying, "But so wrong." Um, is
there any sort of reference there that
you can think of as to why she'd say
something like that? I don't I don't
recall. I I don't remember us even
talking about being in a relationship.
Um, but there there was the talk about
like, okay, what happens if she is
pregnant, which is like I would stay by
her side, you know, cuz I I'm I'm not
going to, you know, that that's
potentially my kid. So, I wasn't going
to like abandon her. Um, but as far as
like it feels wrong, it feels right, it
feels wrong, it feels No, I I No, no,
no. I I I was seeing this with eyes wide
open of how deathly serious this is if
she's pregnant. Um which uh you know,
surprise surprise, she was not. So I
mean like her original claim is
uh going to a more public space around
others and went to an elevator to go to
the lobby of the of the Ponycon Hotel.
So was this the So this isn't the
Ponycon Hotel and it's the day before
the con anyway is what you're telling
me. it. Yeah, cuz the convention was
held at the at the hotel. Okay. People
were present. She felt embarrassed
and uh guided me towards the stairs to
go back down to where we were just into
a men's restroom where he pulled his
pants down and guided my hands and head
towards performing oral sex on him. So,
I mean, so your account of this is
actually she was more kind of trying to
guide you in that way. Is am I am I
getting I wouldn't say I wouldn't It was
mutual. I'm not I'm not saying that, you
know, I'm not saying like, oh, it was
just her. I I was innocent and and she
grabbed me and shoved me into the No, it
was it was again us sitting on this
bench nearby. Uh her laying her head on
me. Uh her and I start kissing and then
we both mutually, you know, went to the
bathroom where we did some more kissing
which led to other things. Okay. Is
there are there any other sexual
interactions between you two? That's it.
One part of these interactions which has
always struck me as quite odd is that
Emily is incredibly vague or outright
dismissive of any further interactions
between the two of them. Presenting
herself as instantly disgusted and just
wanting to escape the clutches of Saber
Spark. We can find another example of
this in her DMs with Mr. Enter as he
begins pressing her on what their
interactions looked like for the rest of
the convention. Emily denies any further
direct interactions, which is
interesting because EQLA was not some
random event. It also contained the
screening of the Brony documentary
involving John Delansancy, which feels
like something Emily would remember,
especially because there is another
interaction between the two of them with
witnesses. So, after that happened,
after the bathroom, what what happens
then?
So, uh, that was another busy
convention. That was the one where they
were showing the premiere of the Brewing
documentary from John Delansancy and
Michael Brokoff, which was a big deal at
the time. It was a big old crowdfunded
thing. It was it was a a work in
progress, uh, screening. And also, the
convention was busy just running around
to different panels, uh, also doing more
interviews and being involved with the
Everree Radio guys. Um we I'd see her at
the convention uh and she would text me
wanting to hang out but again just I was
too busy. I was I was I was booked uh
the entire time through and the only
time I can really recall seeing her was
when we left it was so it was in
Downtown Disney is where this movie was
being screened the the the cut of the
brain documentary. I remember going
there with uh AC race best and with
Paleo and a handful of other folks. Um,
I remember Hot D Hot Diggity Demon was
also in the audience. Uh, it it was a
really interesting evening watching the
cut for the documentary cuz it wasn't
that good. I digress. Uh, when we walked
out of the uh theater screening, we were
all very, you know, being very critical,
very opinionated. And I remember looking
uh to the side and I saw Emily like
leaning against the wall with her friend
Sandra. And it's almost like Emily was
waiting for me to come out. Uh because
then she saw me and then she looked
forward and she started to, you know,
pass out. I I don't know if she was
pretending or not, but she started to
pass out uh and being like, "Oh my
gosh." You know, Sandra's like, "Oh my
gosh, you know, she needs help." I'm a
lifeguard, so I I know some first day.
And I walked up over to her along with
Palin and Jeffrey Rac. And um we uh
we're just saying, "Let's get you some
water. You okay?" And Sandre was like,
"I need you all to stay here with her.
You know that she can't be alone." And
ultimately,
I can't recall. I think we actually
called one of the Disney people came
over to actually help out cuz they were
like, "Hey, we're actually have like
first aid people, but ultimately uh we
didn't stay around for too long because
someone else intervened to help out
Emily and Sandra." Uh and then we, you
know, uh were on our way. You know, I
remember texting her be like, "You let
me know if you're okay." But we had to
get going cuz we had other, you know,
arrangement we had to take off to. But I
do remember her like wait. It's almost
like she looked fine.
It's my recollection when I walked out
of the door and then when she saw me,
she started like acting like she had a
heat stroke or something or and again I
don't want to say acting. I don't know.
But it was I remember her looking and
then seeing me and then and then falling
to the ground like you know not falling
to the ground but leaning against the
wall and sliding down until her bottom
hit the ground.
Okay. And her and her friend Sandra
being very panicked and us being there
for her for, you know, you know, we were
there for, you know, a good handful of
minutes just getting her water and
dabbing her head and stuff, making sure
she's fine. And she was fine, but then
it was more of a you all need to stay
here with her. And that's when I'm like,
is this a trick to, you know, pity us
into this? I don't know. To this day, I
still don't know what happened. It was
it was odd, but but yeah, the more I
think about it, Disney had people on
Main Street who are like, "We can help
out." And uh we we we disengaged after
that. And now hopefully you have a full
picture of what these events look like
from Sabre's perspective. What we're
going to be going on to next is the
aftermath because Emily has not been
honest about what their friendship
looked like in any way. And these text
messages paint a pretty clear picture of
both that ongoing relationship and her
actual issues with Saber Spark. And most
importantly of all, I think they give us
answers as to why these accusations
against him started in the first place.
But before that, I do want to tie up
just a couple of loose ends in Sabre's
story, just so we've sort of cleared the
board. Uh, I mean, just I suppose to
finish the story of the pregnancy scare.
How did that kind of work itself out?
End of the convention on a Sunday. I
remember going over to her hotel being
like, I'm like, we have to get this
test. like I I I need to know the answer
before I head home just so I can know
what's going on. And I walked over to a
Target across the street. I got the
pregnancy test, came back, and I'm like,
"Please, can you take this?" And she
goes, "Okay." You know, cuz it was times
time's up. And she she's said, "Okay,
I'll do it." And she took it and it was
negative. And I remember after her
afterwards, I was like almost dumbruck
with relief. And at that point, it
started to I started to form this
opinion in my head where I'm like, did
she just baby scare me to keep me in her
life? And that that was the emotion
surging through my head along with
relief. And I remember her being like,
can we please, you know, keep talking?
Can we still be friends? You know, I I
don't want this to be the end of us. Are
you angry at me? And I'm like, no, no,
no. We're good. We're good. Um, to which
ultimately I was like so scared
afterwards that I started to pull away
from her uh for the next few months and
until until I unfollowed her on Twitter
at the end of the year and that created
another spiral of of her getting angry
at me. So if this was I mean you say you
pulled away from her for the next few
months but I mean cuz I cuz I've seen
your DMs with her. Um so you p if you
pulled away from her I mean it wouldn't
be for months sober. It would not months
I would say. I mean, it's I'd say
November. No, I'm sorry. You're right.
I'm I'm getting my uh the increments
wrong, but it was I would say for the
rest of November, and we we'd still
text, but I was a lot more reclusive of
replying a lot a lot not nearly as uh
you know, enthusiastically,
you know, communicative, I would say. I
was um I was I was pulling back a bit.
And also, it was Christmas time, too. We
were getting close into the year and uh
also me working on my documentary with
Paleo and I was focusing on that. So, I
just didn't really have much much time.
I didn't talk to her as much, but we
still talked. We still we still talked
to each other, just not as much. Now,
before we get started, I'd like to
remind you all that Emily has claimed
that she was uncomfortable with this
relationship right from the start, that
she phoned a friend to tell them that
Davis Spark had in some way sexually
assaulted her. So, it seems pretty weird
that during the time period where she
says that she was pulling away and
wanted nothing to do with him that she'd
get so upset with him for unfollowing
her on Twitter. And I know this sounds
minor, but I promise you this is a
theme. Because yes, that's how these
interactions begin. On December the
18th, Emily would message Sabre, "Why
did you unfollow me, Steven? I want you
to be honest with me. It's making my
heart ache thinking you are mad at me to
the point where you unfollow me. Sabre
would explain that he'd unfollowed her
because she tweeted a lot and he found
this to be pretty annoying. But while
Sabre has told me this is actually
pretty much the truth, Sabre's testimony
actually just gives us way more context
of the fact that he'd essentially
ghosted her. And it seems that
unfollowing her on Twitter may have been
the straw that broke the camel's back.
and Sabre would relent and refollow her.
Though, to be completely fair to Emily,
I'd be pretty [\h__\h] annoyed, too,
because this only lasted a couple of
hours before he once again unfollowed
her with her saying, "I've only tweeted
like two times within the past few
hours. What is going on?" And here we
find Sabre being honest cuz I want to
avoid drama. I feel like you are
latching on to me and I need space.
Sorry, M. I need this for the time being
until the dock is done. You know, it is
kind of [\h__\h] wild to me to look
through these messages and find exactly
the same grievances that made me
suspicious of her 2025 statement
reiterated by Emily in both 2012 and
2013. On Sabre's side, he seems well
aware of what the issues are because he
apologizes in December and then again in
February. And Emily accepts this
apology, fully bringing Sabers Spark
back into her life and working to repair
the relationship.
Again, this shoots some holes in her
narrative. Quite significant holes, I'd
argue, but it seems like I was pretty
bang on the money back on like May the
2nd when I started looking into it. It's
also probably worth a quick bit of
context as to why Saber Spark would
apologize to Emily in February in the
first place because this wasn't just
Saber Spark randomly trying to hook up
with a girl who he had a previous
relationship with. It's actually cuz
Saber Spark was trying to keep the peace
at conventions which were getting a
little bit awkward. Let's move forward
to February cuz the first time I saw
these obviously I saw them only with
days and time at times. I didn't see
them with dates and I was surprised to
see that. I mean, you messaged her out
the blue. Hey, M. I won't take too much
of your time. I just wanted to say
sorry. Sorry for how I treated you.
Sorry for going silent for months and
not chatting with you. It is my fault. I
got scared and ran away and I left you
behind. I was a bad friend. So, I just
want to apologize. I'm not expecting you
to be kind to talk to me again at this
con or uh or ever. And that is fair.
And, you know, continues on much to this
degree. I mean, why message her out the
blue?
We were at a convention in Vegas called
Lost Pegasus. She was there, I was
there, and there's even vlog footage to
that backs that up. And at the time, I
believe she was starting to date Sorak.
And uh I would see them together at the
convention at the, you know, the concert
floor at the vendor hall. And I could
feel the tension, the awkwardness
between me and Emily where I would see
her um and she would shoot daggers at
me, you know, just glare at me and then
walk away and and grab, you know, Soulre
his arm and bring him with her. And the
main thing to me was how awkward it felt
because we still shared the same group
of uh friends as far as like convention
friends go. No, Final Draft, AC race
best, Soul Rack, uh Paleo, uh a lot of
people. And the last thing I wanted was
there to be any awkward tension with all
of us hanging out. Uh I'm a bit of a
peacemaker. I I don't like, you know, I
don't like uh just don't like tension. I
don't like that feeling. So, I thought,
you know, it wasn't right of me to ghost
her and to unfollow her and to just drop
her like that so unceremoniously. I owe
her an apology for not being a good
friend. You know, yeah, we didn't work
out as friends with benefits or anything
else, but that doesn't mean we still
can't be friends. And that's why I
reached out to her, especially for the
sake of just having, you know, a piece,
you know, having a coming to an accord
for all the friends cuz we all hang out
at these conventions. And uh that's why
I reached out and apologized was for
ghosting her and then she forgave me.
Having forgiven Saber Spark on the
condition that there's no more messing
around because she's now dating Soul
Rack once again highlighting her core
issue. By February the 25th of 2013 they
were once again continuing our theme
following each other on Twitter. It is
worth noting here that they were also
communicating at this time over Skype
with text messages appearing to be a
secondary mode of communication. But the
next major piece of evidence of how
highly Emily thought of Saber Spark
would come to us on April the 23rd of
that year when Emily asks, "Can I have
some advice?" Now, I don't know about
you, but if it were me and I believe
somebody had sexually assaulted me, I
probably wouldn't be coming to that
person for relationship advice. But
unbelievably, Emily comes to Saber Spark
for advice on her breakup with Soulra.
I'm not kidding here. Emily had broken
up with Sorak because Sra's father
disapproved of his 18-year-old son
getting together with a single mother
who was quite clearly looking for a
father for her daughter. And this is a
really interesting throughine when you
consider what had just happened to Saber
Spark regarding the pregnancy scare.
This is somebody who I mean is currently
accusing you of being their rapist
and also but even without that they're
your ex-friend with benefits who you're
pulling away from. Why are they coming
to you about relationship stuff?
You got me. I was I was a little bit
surprised
uh because to me maybe it's because you
know we had a a fling I guess or friends
with benefits and maybe that
in a way allowed her to confide in me.
Um I didn't feel super super close. I
was a little bit surprised but I gave
her advice which was the advice I was
giving myself in relation to her which
was you can't take care of someone until
you take care of yourself. Now, we'll
come back to this because Emily's
breakup with Sorra is incredibly key to
this entire story, depressingly for Soul
Rack, but I want to just highlight the
fact that these two were clearly pretty
good friends at this point, right? In
fact, through the middle of May, they'd
be discussing the conventions they were
planning to go to. And interestingly
enough, Emily actually brings up EQLA,
which as you'll remember is one of the
cons she claims Saber assaulted her at.
She doesn't describe it that way,
though, saying that EQLA was one of her
favorites. Now, as the conversation
moves on, we actually see that Sabre's
pretty comfortable in asking questions
about their friends with benefit
thing that they had. and Emily doesn't
seem to have any issues. It appears that
the mention of EQLA prompted Saber Spark
to ask some questions about their former
engagements. And he starts by asking
Emily whether she ever told anybody
about the hookups. Emily responds that
while she never told anyone they had
sex, referring to it as their secret,
she did tell Sandre and Soulra that
Saber Spark sort of messed with her
feelings. Once again, whether it is 5
months after they stopped seeing each
other or 13 years later, she's still
talking about this with the same
language. Next, Sabark would ask her,
"So, was I good in bed or no?" And
interestingly, here Emily says, "I
thought I already told you yes." Now,
look, at this point, we've all heard the
story and we all know that that's not
true. But what's important about this
comment is the fact that Emily is
alluding to previously having discussed
it with Saber Spark. And that shoots
another quite significant hole in her
narrative. Emily paints a picture of
distance to Saber Spark that their
engagements came as a surprise to her
and were not discussed afterwards. that
if she is here saying, "I've already
told you this," then that would
obviously indicate wider conversations
about their friends with benefits
relationship. In a myriad of ways, this
comment and the conversation both before
and after it validate Saber Spark's
testimony because despite Emily's claim
that she was disgusted by the whole
thing and had already gone off Saber,
this conversation is far from one-sided.
If, as Emily claims, she was disgusted
and traumatized by her engagements with
Saber Spark, she certainly doesn't show
it here. The next part of the
conversation involves Sabre asking about
a guy named Eddie and whether they're an
item. And after she says no, Sabre also
compliments one of her cosplays. But
what happens next is perhaps the most
interesting part. Now look, I'm happy to
accept the argument that maybe this was
a deeply traumatizing conversation to
Emily and she was just unable to
verbalize it to her quote unquote abuser
at the time. But what happens next is
much harder to defend because Emily
messages Saber Spark at 10:00 at night
asking him to entertain her. This is the
same day, by the way, so she can't have
been made that uncomfortable by that
conversation. What follows is a fairly
flirtatious little chat while they play
a game about guessing numbers. The
message after this is on the 17th where
she messages him at 3:30 in the morning
saying, "Sabre, I can't sleep." Even if
you don't want to call these
conversations flirtatious, this is
somebody that Emily claims that at the
time she recognized as her rapist, it
makes no sense for her to be messaging
him like this.
And these messages don't even have
responses. In fact, the last text
message would be on June the 1st when
Emily asks, "What did I do this time?"
Because, and I told you it would be a
theme, Saber Spark unfollows her on
Twitter. At this point, this video is
basically complete. I'm just in the
final stages of editing a few things and
tidying stuff up. But, wouldn't you know
it, last night I ended up on a 2hour
call with Emily. This was largely off
the record except for a statement which
we're going to go over in a second. That
being said, I have gone backwards and
forwards asking myself whether that
conversation significantly moves any of
my positions or analysis. And not
really. Part of the problem is that
intentionally or otherwise, knowingly or
not, Emily can be quite manipulative,
making it very difficult for me to trust
her based purely on testimony.
However, I do think that the upcoming
section talking about Emily's wider
interactions with people when
discussing, say, traumatic events needs
a bit of reworking, even if the overall
findings and my overall position remains
consistent. This statement is a more
clarified version of a general part of
the conversation we had on our call with
each other. And in reference to the
existence of these text messages and
their contents, Emily states,
"Peopleleasing is a strong unhealthy
habit I had engaged in for years, and
there were no exceptions to this, even
when it came to engaging with people who
have hurt me or put me in non-consensual
situations. While I felt and still feel
within my right to feel uncomfortable
with Saber's conduct in person, I did
not wish to make my discomfort known to
him and only at a later point express my
feelings towards having my emotions
toyed with as that is a much easier
discussion to have over being open to
him about my lack of consent in both
sexual occurrences. Telling people that
is not easy, which is why I pretended
that everything was fine. As I stated in
my testimony, I said what I could to
maintain this mindset that everything
was fine because I didn't want conflict
at the time because of my peopleleasing
tendencies and fear of conflict with
him. Even in other sexual assault
encounters with others unrelated to
Sabre and the other party acknowledging
I didn't consent and how it was wrong, I
would still claim I was fine and that
the other party did nothing wrong
because of how hard it was for me to
confront the reality of being assaulted
and having to tell that person directly.
I reached out to him after being
unfollowed because of my anxiety
tendencies and worried that I did
something wrong. Despite the fact that I
felt he had wronged me, I still pulled
away from him emotionally as time went
on and would later try to avoid him
altogether in person out of fear of
another sexual encounter I would have to
pretend was okay. Despite him
unfollowing me, he would still interact
with me at conventions briefly and
respectfully. This still caused me
anxiety. At no point were these sexual
encounters planned or agreed upon. I
just acted like it was okay after the
occurrence already happened. Both
occasions happened extremely abruptly
and were very intense. I am still
working through the process of healing
and overall processing the trauma I have
endured with sexual assault abuse
overall as I have experienced it since
childhood. I haven't really been
equipped to deal with these things and
honestly I don't think anyone knows how
to handle them entirely. I especially
have a difficult relationship with this
and am beginning the process of working
through these things along with
unlearning habits I learned as a child
like fing in order to survive. My
recollection of the two sexual
occurrences still stand as it's hard to
forget them especially the occurrence in
the elevator. Now that we have this
statement, the question I have to ask is
does it really address the text
messages? And I should be clear that I
didn't show Emily the text messages,
though we did discuss them at length,
including their contents. If I'm being
completely honest with myself and with
you, I don't really think so. Emily
saying that she is a people pleaser is
one thing, and to be clear, having
spoken to her, I do think there is
probably some truth to that statement.
But we have to consider this against the
fact that she was going to Saber Spark
for relationship advice. And if Emily is
claiming that any and all interactions
with Saber Spark were causing her
anxiety, including the ones where he was
respectful, I have to question why she
was messaging him at 3:30 in the
morning. There is also a clear
inconsistency here with the fact that
Emily is still stating she was pulling
away from Sabre, but again, it's Sabre
clearly in the messages pulling away
from her. So, I don't understand why
she'd try and rekindle or reinvigorate
that relationship if her intention is
distance. This statement may also create
another unexpected issue when trusting
Emily's testimony. Her statement that
she did not wish to make her discomfort
known to Saber Spark may on some level
indicate that if she was uncomfortable
at the time, he would have no way to
know this, especially considering the
fact that if this statement is to be
believed, then regardless of what
occurred between them, Emily would have
positively affirmed him afterwards. It
also brings up the question of when that
affirmation or peopleleasing kicked in
because Saber Spark's testimony is that
both of these were consensual and mutual
hookups. If Emily is the sort of person
who will put herself in positions where
she is uncomfortable just to make
another person happy, this leaves open
the very real possibility that Sabre was
seeking consent in these interactions,
which Emily may have reacted to
positively despite her own personal
feelings. This is of course me theory
crafting. Once again, I wasn't in the
room and can never be sure either way,
but I am at this point just trying to be
charitable because if Sabre is innocent,
these allegations having their origin
point rooted not in malice, but rather
in Emily's inability to effectively
communicate her feelings to the people
she's engaging with is certainly a much
kinder picture to paint of her and her
actions. Though, I do want to make one
thing clear before we move on from this
section because it is relevant to what's
coming up next. You'll notice the use of
the word malice. And I'll remind you
again that this section is being
recorded when the rest of the video is
already basically complete. Because
while Emily's original feelings in these
interactions can only really be known to
her, the evidence does heavily indicate
that she has weaponized these
allegations against Saber Spark over
time. and this statement from Emily does
not account for those actions. Now we've
perused these text messages and heard
Emily's statement, we can get back to
looking into the origins of these
accusations because that is a key
question. When and why Emily began
making the accusation is key to
understanding well other mitigating
factors which draw into question the
validity of the claim. The first time I
can verify that these allegations were
made to anybody would have been at some
point in early 2013. And I know what
you're thinking, Becket. If these
allegations were being made so early,
does that not lend some credence to the
claim? And unfortunately, no, not
really. Emily's relationship with Sorra
is not straightforward. Now, I have
heard multiple versions of how these
allegations were first told to him, but
because at least one of those versions
is not on the record, I can't even begin
to discuss it with you. What I will say
though is if that version is the truth,
in my opinion, I don't think it changes
things very much. That said, the body of
evidence indicates that Sorra would be
told sometime around April or May 2013
in an attempt to salvage the
relationship. Sra has gone on the record
to say that while he was attempting to
break up with Emily, she did not take
this particularly well. At one point
threatening to kill herself if he
attempted to leave her. For this reason,
if the allegations were told to him at
this time, it is completely reasonable
to read that action as a play for
sympathy. Additionally, due to Emily's
history, it's just not that much of a
stretch to read these accusations being
utilized in that way. Originally, this
section heavily involved digging into
Emily's history and patterns of behavior
to help paint that wider picture.
However, for a couple of reasons,
largely because of the conversation I
had with Emily, I have decided to just
omit that analysis. So rather, I will
leave the topic of Sorra being informed
on this single note. If Emily did tell
him at this time, regardless of the
context, the timeline here is damning
because it would mean that Emily was
telling Soulra that Saber Spark was
abusive at the same time as actively
engaging with Saber Spark and from the
messages seemingly flirting with him.
Finally though, there have been claims
made that Saber Spark would be
confronted by Sorrack at a convention in
2015 on this topic.
Was there anything that they particular
without revealing too much, was there
anything that they said when they told
you this story that made you be like,
"Oh, yeah, no, this person's telling the
truth." Or,
um, there's a lot of things that make me
feel like they are telling the truth.
Um, I think we discussed this before,
but I had even heard I forgot, but I had
heard whispers of a conflict between
Saber and um, their partner over time
um, at the time over this. So, um, but I
didn't remember the context. I wasn't
really I didn't know who they were at
all. Um, so I don't I we've I've never
met them in person to my recollection.
Um,
but so when they came and they told the
story, I was like, "Oh, yeah. I vaguely
remember hearing something like this."
But this doesn't actually appear to be
true. Both Sorak and Saber Spark deny
this ever occurred. And let's be honest,
I don't really trust KP as a reliable
source. And speaking of reliable
sources, you may remember that somebody
by the name of Jessa came out to defend
the allegations back in May. Jessa goes
on to state that the details have not
changed in 12 years. This is, of course,
an absurd statement to make. I don't
know about you, but I can't accurately
remember what happened to me over a
decade ago, let alone random stories I
was told. Perhaps so I'm being unfair to
Jess and she is some kind of incredibly
unique godchild with perfect
recollection of events. Even if that is
the case, then it presents another
problem. Because if the testimony has
not changed at all in 12 years, if this
is completely consistent, it would mean
that Emily at the time was telling
people she had cut contact with Saber
Spark and pulled away from him, which
would be a lie she would be knowingly
telling people. It seems far more likely
though that this story has morphed and
claims that it's remained consistent are
frankly very difficult to believe.
Fortunately, I can show to you that
Jessa isn't just lying that she was
informed about this accusation. Sadly,
the wider context provided by that
evidence changes this from something
that could be potentially vindicating
for Emily to something that's pretty
damning all things considered. So, let
me walk you through this because when I
pieced this together, I honestly lost my
[\h__\h] mind. This all took place at
Cutie Mark Con in Ohio, which ran from
the 31st of May to the 2nd of June. And
Emily would talk about this with Lazy
Bed Head over DMs. She says, "Around
2:00 a.m. I told them what happened,
which is, I'll be clear, a crazy
specific time to remember Emily. But I
completely believe her. In fact, I can
evidence it to you because if we go back
to the final message Emily sent to Saber
Spark after he unfollowed her on
Twitter, the timestamp is 1:45 a.m.,
which indicates that the actual series
of events that took place were Emily
notices in the early hours of the
morning that Saberspark has unfollowed
her on Twitter. In response to this, she
DMs him demanding some form of
explanation. When she doesn't receive a
message back, she then turns to the room
and in some kind of potential blind rage
at this rejection, announces to everyone
that Saber Spark is a rapist. And this
is why Jess's testimony of being told
isn't really a defense. Because the
reason Emily told Jesser and the other
people in that room is because she was
angry at Saber Spark for distancing
himself from her, not in an honest
moment of vulnerability.
If we needed further evidence that Emily
will utilize these accusations in
moments of petty resentment, this is it.
Aside from everything else, that feeling
of scorn is so ingrained in her
apparently that she can remember the
exact hour over a decade later. The
current iteration of these accusations
are no exception to this pattern of
weaponization by Emily. every time she's
slightly annoyed at Saber Spark. And I
know this is true because Emily tells us
this in her interview with Mr. Enter.
Her reasons for coming forward are not
to get some kind of justice. They're
because she is annoyed at Saber Spark
because of the Black Griffin drama. I
know we're all super shocked that it
links back to that. I can hear you in
the comments section already. What was
the decision to finally just like come
out publicly about it? like just tell
the the mass internet and put it as a
public information kind of thing. During
like the last I don't know couple of I
I'm trying to think of how long it's
been maybe maybe the last like four
months or so you know the conversation
has come up because of all of the stuff
in relation to Black Griffin because
people will bring up that Saber has
defended this and has you know I've seen
all these comments that he's making
about it. It's all on the level, you
know, it's all cool, you know, because
Claire
doesn't understand that she has been
groomed. It's fine, you know. It's all
on the level. We're all good. And it
I'll be honest, that triggered me and
made me realize, you know, I wonder if
that's just how my situation has been
interpreted because I didn't speak out.
Because I didn't sit there and say, "No,
get off of me." Because I didn't, you
know, have something to say about it. is
that just how I'm being interpreted? And
that triggered me and upset me a lot.
And so, you know, I was talking with my
friend Amy about it because of all of
the, you know, conversation with Saber
being brought up recently and I just I I
just couldn't deal with it and I just
started kind of spilling on how I felt
about it. And it was Amy who then said,
you know, have you ever thought about
speaking up? Well, well, well. Fancy
seeing you here. Amy knew. Now look,
there's a full section on Amy in the
first video, but she has maintained her
innocence in all of this. Just a
concerned friend, and that's Bollocks.
We know this both from Emily's own
testimony and from the fact that she is
deeply involved with this little cabal
going after Black Griffin. If you need
more evidence of this, here's a
screenshot of their group chat, which
includes all of them together having a
little plot about KP. Amy is the person
who pushed Emily to go to bonk, and that
only serves her interests. Actually, as
a little additional thing, just because
I thought it was interesting, Emily is
actually the one who told Sophie to lock
Brony Fandot's accounts when he was
threatening to throw himself off a
bridge. This doesn't really matter at
this point. I just thought it was funny.
Irregardless, this interview scuppers
another potential defense of Emily's
credibility. the fact that not just in
this instance, but in multiple other
instances, Emily appears to be making
these accusations with some other
primary motivating factor as the reason.
And this latest utilization of these
accusations against Saber Spark may
actually be the most damning because not
only is she clearly involved with this
group going after Black Griffin, we have
no way to know when this association
began. Certainly, she's been friends
with Amy for a significant period of
time. But if her claims that this all
began months ago are to be believed, it
brings up the uncomfortable but very
real possibility that her statement has
been influenced by this group before
release. And we know that Emily can be
manipulated into making modifications to
the statement for whatever needs to fit
at the time because she did just that
when KP asked her to make changes. But
before we move on from this section on
Emily and the text messages, I want to
leave on a slightly happier note. You
see, I noticed something in this
interview and I have good news for
Emily. What do you want to happen like
with Saber Spark? Like what was your end
goal in sharing this? Were you just like
were you are you like on the whole like
let's burn everything Saber Spark made
or like what what's your like kind of
end goal in this?
In all honesty, when it came to speaking
out, there wasn't really a whole lot of
one, apart from just me proving that I
could actually speak up about something
because like I mentioned, I have a
history of dealing with assault and I
have not been good about speaking up
about it. And for me more than anything,
it was just kind of a personal thing of
saying, "No, I I I'm not okay with
this." Uh, this has nothing to do with,
honestly, it's not anything to do with
trying to hurt him. And obviously, I
acknowledge it does. you know, I don't
really want to hurt anybody, but at the
same time,
honestly, when it came to like the story
coming out, deep down, I just kind of
had hoped, you know, I mentioned I don't
want him to reach out, but if he had
emailed me and just gave me an apology
of like, I I'm sorry. I didn't realize
that I had made you uncomfortable, that
would have been a very healing thing to
receive, you know. Leaving aside for a
second her request that her alleged
rapist email her an apology for making
her feel uncomfortable, which sounds,
let's be fair, completely [\h__\h]
mental, I have good news. Emily did get
her apologies back in 2012 and 2013 for
what appears to be her genuine grievance
of being ghosted by Saber Spark. Now,
hopefully we can draw a line under the
whole of this and hear no more about it.
Now, as promised, let's have a look at
some of the more interesting things that
have been happening over the last couple
of weeks. As we were already talking
about Amy new, let's start with her.
This is going to be very brief, however,
because Amy isn't that interesting. But
I do think it is worth noting that her
husband seems to be facing allegations
of his own as she takes to Twitter to
valiantly defend his honor. Now,
obviously, these are completely
unsubstantiated. I just think it's funny
to watch how the turntables. That being
said, I am interested to see how her
believe all victim stance would hold up
if more serious accusations do end up
dropping. Next in the lineup is of
course Sophie Scruggs. And for those of
you looking for a little bit of
comeuppance, that does seem like a
possibility in the near future because
it seems that Sophie has pissed off
quite a lot of people. And while she's
managed to distance herself somewhat
successfully, it is worth noting that
Sophie has one thing she cares about,
which would be her continued involvement
in conventions. While her participation
isn't under any sort of direct threat, I
did sit down with the conch chair for
Everree Northwest and all this chaos has
gone far from unnoticed. So, as time has
moved on, obviously the fandom has
grown, shifted, moved on. Um, currently
it's I mean there's quite a bit of drama
and one of the people involved in that
is Sophie Scruggs. Now, what is your
relationship to Sophie?
Um, Sophie as far as my relationship
directly with her is not necessarily
like, you know, buddy buddy friend. It's
more of a business relationship. She is
perennial vendor at our events. um you
know someone who I associate with on a
on a kind of a parallel axis where we we
attend multiple conventions at the same
time, same places. Um, she has in more
recent times been involved with
productions of uh, professional media
uh, revolving around My Little Pony
fandom, especially IDW and their comic
covers and whatnot, and has recently
been invited as a VIP guest of Everfree
um, in that capacity uh, last year as as
our 2024 event VIP list. Um, but just
more in generally just as as a perennial
vendor and producer of content in in the
space. Someone who, you know, I follow
on social media as part of my duties of
being informed of the goings on in the
community. Um, you know, I like to keep
tabs on on everything being out there so
that I can, you know, keep an informed
view and and know what's going on and
know how to react to certain situations.
And, you know, she's part of that as a
major player in the social media spaces.
Um, she has a very strong voice in the
community. So, with what's currently
occurring, and my understanding is that
Saber Spark has been potentially
disinvited from Everfree. Is that
correct?
Um, I wouldn't go so far as to say
disinvited, more of, you know,
re-evaluated.
Um, and currently ongoing still. I I you
know, we're still in internal talks and
discussions about the continuity of of
different events going on in in the
fandom, the reactions that fans are
having to this particular drama event. I
know the relationship that Saber and his
group of of pals including AC race best
and uh other folks in the the bronies
react group and other ancillary groups
to that um have had in the past has gone
back since you know the very first ever
freeback in 20 2012
um it's been an ongoing relationship
where practically every year they are
invited as community guests. They
provide a a large um portion of our
programming of events at the show
multiple events per day. um comprising
many hours of of you know community
involvement um at each year's show. Um
so it it it goes back a long ways and
you know given recent drama and and you
know focus and attention on on certain
matters of great importance and and
great gravity let's say this this is a
very serious accusation a very serious
you know issue to be um involving
ourselves in as a business we have to
evaluate how the fans are responding
reacting involving themselves with these
kind of things so that we can help
insulate both our fans at our show and
our business and our, you know, our our
view as far as how the fans view us as
an entity. You know, we we pride
ourselves at Every Fear Northwest as
being a familyfriendly convention and
unlike many of the other brony and pony
conventions out there. Um, we try to
keep a PG rating on all of our content,
everything at the show, you know, keep
it so that it's completely
familyfriendly. any event can be
attended by any age and shouldn't have
any problems. Uh, and that's been a
long-standing uh, rule of ours since I
became involved in management around the
2016 2017
um, show times. Considering the fact
that Sophie is involved in this sort of
wider drama involving Black Griffin, uh
their involvement with Bernie Fand and
you know their involvement with
leveling, you know, unsubstantiated rape
allegations against Saber Spark, does
that re-evaluation extend to her as
well?
Um in a way it it does muddy the waters
let's say uh of our involvement but in
the sense that she is at current only
being evaluated this year as a vendor
and we have many vendors of many
different persuasions and beliefs and
interests and whatnot. um that doesn't
necessarily reflect directly on our
convention as having her as a as a
long-standing vendor participant um so
much as it does with Sabre being an
actual community guest invited to the
convention by the convention and and
being a representative of of our values
and and our our different options for
presenting to our fans and and
participants in the event. Um so there's
a little bit of differentiation. If we
were evaluating Sophie again on the
level of like VIP involvement and and
that kind of thing there, it would
probably be a much different story. At
the very least, I imagine there are
going to be a few uncomfortable
interactions for Sophie in the not
tooistant future. But I guess this
brings us finally to Brony Fandone. Now,
I'm not going to talk about all the
insanity over on Twitter. If you want to
see that, go and follow me over there.
I've been a little unhinged lately.
Rather, what I'd like to focus in on are
the interactions between Brony Fandone
and Mr. Enter. Cause, not to put too
fine a point on it, Fandone is a very
unhappy little freak right now. This is
for a couple of reasons, though I will
admit his primary grievance is causing
me some trouble when trying to explain
it. My original recording of this
section ran to just over 9 minutes and
by the end made me sound like an
egoomaniac. As despite Fandon's
protestation that he doesn't care what I
think, well, these DMs tell a very
different story. So, we're going to
break this down based on whichever voice
seems to be screaming at Fandom from
inside his own head at that moment. To
begin, and as a little bit of
background, these interactions start
when Mr. Enter reaches out to Bonk for
more information regarding the
allegations. Most of this we're going to
skip over, but there is one particular
interaction that caught my eye as
Fandone demands to be added to a call
that for some reason he thinks is
occurring. When he doesn't get a
response, he actually reaches out to
Emily. Such is his desperate need for
control. The reason I bring this up is
because it allows me to talk about one
element of Fandon's personality which I
don't think's really been touched upon.
His insane inferiority complex. You'll
notice Fandon's OC is a hyena with a
glowing eye, but this isn't just an
aesthetic choice. Somebody handed me the
character sheet for Bonk's character.
And it turns out Bonk has something of a
rape fetish. Yes, unfortunately, the
rabbit hole gets even darker. And that
is a terrible choice of words
considering what I'm about to tell you.
Fandon's OC has the special ability to
bend others to her will, a power she
seems to use almost exclusively to cuck
the fox from Zootopia so she can have
sex with the rabbit character. I would
of course love to tell you that the only
reason I'm bringing this up at all is to
display to you that despite the serious
allegations Bonk keeps leveling against
people, he clearly can't have that much
of an issue with any of these things,
considering the types of porn he
commissions and how much of it there is.
But if I'm being truthful, it's just
because I like mocking him. That little
bit of mental scarring out of the way,
let's get to the meat and potatoes.
Fandone's core issue with Mr. Enter is,
if you hadn't guessed it already, me.
And actually, if you hadn't guessed it
already, I wouldn't be surprised because
that's kind of insane. Fand seems to
blame Mr. Enter for the success of my
previous video, as well as giving me an
audience. Perhaps though, this does go
some way to explaining why Fandon's
300page document on Black Griffin is as
full of nonsense as it is, as even a
cursory glance at my channel would have
shown him that the Saber Spark video
didn't do that much better than most of
my other content. Had he dug even
deeper, of course, he would have found
that all of this was Chudlo Logic's
fault. Wait, he's actually involved. Oh
my god, Becket, I was joking, but you
are actually involved. Jesus Christ,
dude. For this reason, Fandone is
convinced that if Mr. enter would just
put out a retraction for ever mentioning
my name and apologize profusely while
denouncing me. Everything can go back to
the way it was. You have to remember, of
course, that Fandone is always at any
moment just one tweet away from
destroying the careers of everybody he
hates. To Fandone, the idea of Mr. Enter
not denouncing me must seem absurd.
After all, in his opinion, my video is
illegal.
And I'm going to be honest with you,
this one also confused the living [\h__\h]
out of me. But what I've managed to
piece together from Fand's incoherent
ranting is that the recording CLA
provided me was made without consent of
the parties involved. How Fandone would
know this is a mystery unless he is in
contact with the therapist or the far
more likely option, Cla's father, Ian.
These DMs also help me to answer a key
question I've had for weeks now, which
is why Fandon keeps claiming that Clare
was forced to pet snails by Sophie
Scrugs. A story he correctly identifies
as completely ridiculous. One may wonder
whether he actually ever watched my
video or the interview with Clare
because she never said anything close to
this except, I guess, for the continued
inclusion of a snail. And the answer is,
of course, he didn't. All the
information he has about it or me has
been fed to him by third parties who
frankly also don't know what the hell
they're talking about. This little hate
mob is terrified of anything approaching
facts or truth. It's why this mess
started in the first place.
I have taken time to fully reflect on
this entire situation and it has been
emotional and a very major challenge. It
has really shined a spotlight on not
only my understanding on how everything
has happened since my first testimony
being released, but also especially
regarding how I have carried
self-destructive habits with me into
adulthood that I have clung on to since
being a child. Not being able to
remember these moments of me betraying
myself through acting like I was not
only fine but even enjoy taking part in
these occurrences and reliving them
again when brought to my attention felt
extremely heavy on me. as I sat with
myself asking why I needed to do this
for years. It isn't easy being eight and
feeling like the responsibility of your
entire life changing is on you if you
spoke up and told an adult what was
happening or being 12 worrying that if
you said something to the teacher as a
classmate assaults you that maybe you
would be the one to get in trouble
because you didn't understand. I didn't
want to confront that reality by telling
him and instead just played along
because for the longest time I remained
in spaces with people where I was not
wanted. I regret not expressing it and
regret putting myself in a space where I
shouldn't have stayed. While I still am
firm on consent not being given in these
two situations, I don't want Saber to
continue taking heat for what happened
because I really do not think he
realized this. I do still believe he
should have been careful and more
mindful about his approach when
interacting with me and communicating
clearly with me to make sure I wanted
these sexual encounters before
initiating them. It would have been much
easier to avoid them altogether, but
just as he could have done that, I could
have been more upfront by either telling
him or stop interacting entirely. I feel
really good about having a proper path
carved out for me when it comes to the
work I have to do to finally heal from
not only this situation, but other
sexual traumas I've endured. Healing is
something we need to take control of
ourselves because no one else is going
to do the work. While the people
pleasing was something I developed in a
time of need, I can't carry that with me
anymore as an adult because it is no
longer serving me. So, it would seem
that my conversation with Emily a few
days ago has caused her to reflect upon
these events quite seriously. And she
has moved some of the stuff we discussed
onto the record in a couple of prepared
statements. The first one I've just
played for you, but she has also opened
up about her memory issues. When I
confronted her on the existence of these
text messages, she seemed to be
genuinely surprised. Not just that I had
them, but the fact that these
conversations had happened at all. She
had apparently no memory of this 6
months of correspondence. Equally
surprising to her was the story
regarding the premiere of the Brony
documentary. Even on reflection, she
seems to not be able to place Saber
Spark at that event. Earlier in this
video, I have said that Emily has lied
or at the very least obfiscated her
wider relationship with Saber Spark. And
while to an extent, I stand by that
comment, and I'm not removing it.
Obviously, this does provide a
counternarrative, which I think is
important to highlight. If Emily really
has no memory of these wider events,
that would paint a far more charitable
picture of their mission. But this is,
of course, a double-edged sword. If
Emily can't remember these wider events,
then trusting her to accurately
recollect the exact nature of her
relationship with Savmark while they
were entangled becomes even more
challenging. I'd hope you'd agree,
though. Those that want to interpret the
issues with Emily's testimony in that
light can't really be blamed,
considering the alternative of malice is
far more distasteful. Having listened to
her updated statement, I would take this
at the very least as a soft retraction.
If not of the accusations in their
totality, then at least Saber Spark's
culpability in her opinion. This more or
less, and funnily enough, seems to line
up with my earlier theory crafting on
her testimony regarding her
peopleleasing qualities. After having
had a few hours to, I guess, reflect
upon these further comments from Emily,
I'm still not totally sure where I land.
As I said about Lance's video, many of
the things said about this chick are far
more the product of rumor than reality.
And having talked to her, I certainly
believe her to be deeply troubled. But
if nothing else, hopefully these further
comments from Emily will provide Saber
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other thing we should probably address.
If this does tie up the Saber Spark side
of this story, that doesn't mean we're
done. Because the wider Black Griffin
drama from which this spawned is still
somewhat ongoing. I have seen some
people claim that my initial coverage
was enough to start debunking the
document. And while I'll admit a ball
has started rolling, I wouldn't describe
this as settled by any means. At time of
recording, I'm not 100% on whether I
will do a full Black Griffin video. But
what I will say is this, that particular
story and the wider players involved are
fascinating to me. So, if Black Griffin
is prepared to go on the record with me,
I will very likely cover this in the
future. Until then, and as always, more
content to come. Peace.