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Also, I don't know if I'd look.
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Ours is XR, extreme.
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or make light of any
sexual assault.
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is URR.
Design to explain the joke. It's not funny anymore.
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There are some
There's some soybeans out there.
There are some, this is going to be a soy
chat.
This is going to be a soybean topic.
There are soybeans in the chat.
Soybeans. I see you, chat. I see you.
I see you. Hello, everybody.
And.
A precious soybeans.
My precious, my precious, my precious soybeans.
Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Oploc.
Your one stop, shop, for everything,
commentary, news, research, and other things happening on the internet.
I'm your host, Falji, EXC.
And today...
Hey, hey, there's a reason I'm a pony.
It's because this is MLP drama, baby.
Len, I can't repeat what you just said.
What did Lynn say?
You can read it.
He can't, yeah, he just said he can't repeat it.
I can't repeat that.
Someone has to make it right now?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
soy. Don't worry about moving on, moving on, gosh, you're so bad at moving on.
I'm not going to read it.
Let me start reading it.
Yeah, read it, Greg, do it, do it, Greg.
You, you're going to run it.
I had on Top Cat, I'm sorry, I had a top cat.
Wow, that's a state.
But, you know, you're on top.
First time for everything.
Oh, no!
That's rude.
Oh, yeah.
Petition for Fagri to cover all songs in the stream intro with Acapulca Pylken smiles.
No, no.
You want Acapico?
You want Aca Pico, uh, uh, uh, uh, songs, but it is what it is.
But, chat, we have a very jam-packed, clip-clop, paddywalk.
I don't know any of the brony lore.
So, chat, you're going to fill in the blanks.
we have a very very crazy stream but beg it's still on the men so we couldn't ask him
oh don't say that he's probably fine i listen uh don't say clop why why that because that means
spap what's ponies yeah why are you people so weird i mean you don't know the internet not i don't
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know fucking Brony Gooner, they're all pedophiles lore.
I can't wait for that one.
You can't just call everybody a pedophile.
I mean, you turn to Tyler.
I, listen, to be fair, throw a fucking hoof at the brony fandom.
You're going to hit about six of them on the way down.
But more importantly, joining me today is some of my favorite people on the internet.
Hey, Starstrike, thank you so much for becoming a boom operator.
Star Shini became a member.
But more importantly, I've joined by some of my favorite people.
Oh, CPR isn't...
Yeah, but how do you do that? How do you do CPR?
How are you getting...
How are you getting CPR from that?
No, no, you. How are you getting bamboozle before you even...
Hey, shut up.
But more importantly, I'm joined by some of my favorite people on the internet.
You know them. You love them. They're posting.
Tony ties today, it's Ash. What's going on, Ash?
Not nothing much. I watched Barbarrella with Killjoy when we're waiting for when we're going to start stream.
That's a pretty good movie. Really goofy, really campy.
Barbarlla?
Yeah, Barbarlla. Yeah.
Pam Anderson. Yeah.
Oh, no, it's a Jane Fonda.
Jane Fonda. I'm thinking, I'm thinking barbed wire.
Barbed wire.
Okay. Was there a Striparella one?
Am I all?
I thought there was.
You're thinking...
You're thinking Boomerella from the Simpsons.
Boomerone. Thank you.
You know, I recently watched like a video essay on The Simpsons today, but that's...
Neither here nor there.
You know them. You love them.
Are there bald ponies?
Where we're going to find out today?
It's Q's Hood Ornament.
What's going on?
Q.
I paid $400 for groceries today.
Jesus.
Tariff's sitting everybody.
I do.
Hi, do.
Do if you're available, you should come on down to the Brodie O'clock.
Only if you want to.
It's super late for her.
Is it really super late?
Get in here, do.
Get in here, German.
More importantly.
Get the German in here.
More importantly, chat.
I bring you the man with every information that I have seen on the internet at all times.
He knows everything.
he's been everywhere on the internet.
You know him.
You love him.
But I love him more than you ever will.
It's Uncle Greg.
What's going on, Greg?
We're supposed to do this two hours ago,
but then Falgie had a life crisis.
I did have a life crisis.
That's just Fauci's life is the crisis.
What do you, okay, what do you mean?
It's the life crisis.
I don't have a life crisis.
You just said you're, okay.
You said you're going to kill yourself.
I'm like, excuse me?
In Minecraft.
Did you're going to crash out?
Okay, I was not going to crash out.
I just don't need people just jumping in to like my, you know, into my area things.
Have you heard of your area?
My area.
Have you ever heard of a group of bronies that wanted to travel to Equestria with an electric fedora hat?
They wanted to travel there to steal ponies goal.
What the fuck does that?
Okay, chat.
We're going to have a real quick talk before we get this stream on the way and going.
This stream, if possible, maybe a three-part look into the Brony fandom.
When I tell you right now, this video, this video.
fucking threw us into a cavalcade of brony lore of just how many people have been outed
outed from that community over the years, how this ties into everyone and everything.
Yes, maybe one day we'll listen to the tune critic thing.
This stream, for those who don't know, will, no, you're fine.
We'll contextualize the recent.
the recent video that came out from I Love Kim Possible regarding, specifically regarding,
the Saberspark allegations as well as the allegations towards DA games, towards DA games.
And this gentleman named Chris, we will get through all of it as much as we can.
Today's stream is going to be primarily focused on I love Kim possible a lot and the video that she put out.
out.
Yeah, but does, how does this affect LeBron's legacy?
Uh, I didn't, I didn't know if I really liked Kim Possible.
Yes, Mr. Gamer, we will talk about Black Griffin.
Because he comes up in this story.
So black, so there's going to be a lot of brony lore and a lot of allegations and confirm little things here and there.
in the Brony fandom.
Today we won't be going over a Google Dockey,
but that's going to change for the next two streams,
because there's Google Dockeys.
Now,
I have to make something very clear.
Content warning right now,
you're going to watch cringe.
You're going to watch like real cringe.
Oh, I'm so excited for real cringe.
I'm not.
I'm not going to have...
I have talked to some people behind the scenes.
Regarding,
uh, regarding,
uh, regarding I love Kim Possible.
Um, you really love Kim Possible.
Yeah.
Yes, it's, yes.
Uh, I, I, I love Kim Possible a lot.
Yeah.
Tracken's better. I'm sorry. Elfer named name you something.
Is she go all the way? I don't care. It's she go. Will we get links?
Yes. Uh, as always, I always put links.
to the videos in the description.
It's going to be a crazy time.
Yeah, I'm just probably going to just call her KP.
So this stream primarily is going to be focusing on KP.
The reason this video was created in our opinion, looking on her research, looking at her history,
and a lot of the other things that went into what I believe to be, again,
this is just mine and our assumptions based on the evidence that has been presented to us
and what we can find, uh, regarding this. And I want to make to think very clear as we're going
into the main part of the video, uh, I attempted to reach out to the acute, the individual who
was accusing Sabres Spark. I was unable to. Uh, I added them on Twitter. I didn't DM them because
it appeared to be that they were cods.
uh, doing tweets. Yes, Mr. Gamer, we're going to be going over the Sun Mouse's tweets
because they have been replying a lot. However, this is a big, however, I was able to speak briefly with the
individual who platformed the, uh, who platformed these, um, these allegations. Um,
I will briefly summarize. I'm not going to fully leak our DMs. There ain't anything.
fucking special. Um, I'll kind of like briefly summarize my questions, uh, regarding it and the
answers that I got. What I was told was a, this person, yes, brony fandom does not like KP at all. Um,
at this point is very upset with KP from what I can understand from the answers I got, which is very
brief, because when I asked them, how did the person, you know, reach them for, for instance, I got a, oh,
that video is unimportant. You should just listen to the victim instead, which I agree, but you
directed Brony Fandot directed the accuser to KP directly. And we're going to say why and why that matters.
So in the chat, I saw somebody talk about a person by the name of Black Griffin. This is. This
is why this matters.
I am going to
turn around
Debbie now. Griffin did nothing wrong.
No, don't, don't do that. Don't, don't, don't, don't say that.
From Berserk, from Berserk. Don't do that. Don't do that.
You can't say that, Ash.
You can't say that.
Ash. Ash. Ash. Ash. What?
The character's name is Griffith.
Griffith.
Yeah.
That's a brave friend.
So it's important to understand.
loosely who Black Griffin is for a reason. So we will do a whole stream dedicated to this Google Doc, as well as drama around it.
Black Griffin's drama is like one actual state on CyberSparks career. Kind of. And we'll get to that.
So Black Griffin, a.k.k.a. known as Gabriel Brown, is a individual. individual.
who has been in the Brony fandom for a very, very long time. Very long time.
There are videos. There's like an archive video of these weird like brony fucking dubs. I love Compossibles in it. A lot is in it.
Even this guy's in it. And specifically, interestingly enough, his now wife.
who at the time was in those videos, she was 15, 16, and he was 25.
Now, it's very important to highlight this. There is a lot to go over when it comes to the Black Griffin saga that I cannot do in one night.
This would, you thought?
the Mama Max stream was fucking long. This gets even worse. It's important to note, and I can't
believe I have to say this. Brother U is very correct. Yes, lazy bedhead is very good. I clowned on a
little bit describing the different types of grooming, but I watched her video. It's very well made.
We probably will be referencing it here and there in our stream on it because there's clips that she has.
but this guy has known, yeah, terrorism grooming.
If you saw my tweet, that's where it comes from.
But it's something really interesting to note that regarding Black Griffin, he was always around his now wife and their mutual friend, while those two were minor voice actors.
because, and this is all I can look at right now, the friend, mom was, at this point, it kind of looks like mom was playing everybody's agent.
Specifically for her daughter, there were, how do I express this?
Possibly. I'm not going to go that format.
Matchmaker. Potentially. Okay. Yes. So Black Griffin would go around with his then wife.
I mean, no, no, well, excuse me. Black Griffin would go around with his now wife, though wasn't at the time,
as well as well as their friend who was also a minor because they were a packaged deal at Barone Cons because
Gabe became a voice actor outside of doing fan.
music. All of this preamble to say that this is one of the biggest things that is the point of
contention with Sabres Spark. Because Sabres Spark for a period of time would defend Gabriel Brown.
Because Gabriel Brown, aka Black Griffin, would constantly say, hey, I know, I know that I knew my wife back then.
But we weren't friends. She had this crime.
crush on me and I constantly turned her down, but she only told me this when she was 20.
Mr. Gamer, I swear. We don't have time. But all of this to say that over a period of time,
Sabres Park would defend Black Griffin. And this seems to be where a lot of, from what I could see,
on the surface anyways, would have been KP's ire with.
Sabres Spark, which I understand, right? I totally get it. I understand that. I don't feel
comfortable about it either. I'll be open and honest about that. I've talked about things like this.
Like, this was a, this was a child actress that was vulnerable. Whether or not anything happened
before she came of age is not really my issue. It's the fact that it does feel like her and her friend, by all accounts, were offered up on a silver platter to them.
It also doesn't make me feel better that if you look at tweets in the past, fans would play into their flirting on Twitter in ways, shape, and form.
Like, people like, you know, like, this, this was a very disgusting thing.
But Saberspark didn't have direct act, like, wasn't in their relationship, right?
Again, I think you should have known better.
I think you should have just said, I'm fucking wiping my hands of it. But that's neither here nor there.
Now, all of this preamble, because the video that we're going to watch today is very weird and very interesting.
The video attaches a lot of other people's allegations.
to lend credibility to Sabres sparks allegations.
I am not going to read this, uh, right here, because this is going to be gone over in the video.
But what I am going to say is there's going to be a lot of information thrown at us.
We're going to try to get through it as much as possible.
Again, this video only, this stream only pertains to I love,
Kim possible. A lot. This is not going to pertain to DA games. That will be its own separate stream
and not to Black Griffin. Can I get a link to the video to share to our stream or to this video?
Because if you want the video, did I not include it in the description? I'll add it to the description right now.
Give me 20 seconds, chat.
Did I share the dark place? Normal people have access to it yet.
It's bubble.
Dark place is bubbling?
People? Dark place has been grabbing things.
It was hard to find it on your own when you're searching for it.
The content reacted to is in the description, chat.
I always put things in the description.
Elfalji found the famous dark place.
You fucks.
But I will say this.
And this is something that I have to give out a shout out to my favorite person in the world.
Mr. Gamer.
Because Mr. Gamer, a couple days ago, was like, hey, I'd love for you to go over this video.
And it was about, it actually happens to be right here, but this is the second part, but we'll get there.
Um, I saw the video about the Buffalo School, uh, potentially hiding or underreporting
sexual assaults and or in kidnappings and other things in their public schools.
And something very interesting that happened when the individual by the name of angry cops,
he is like a, a Buffalo SVU detective, but he also is a YouTuber.
He was starting to get maligned in the media until everyone was like, hey, maybe you should look
at the schools and not necessarily the guy who's telling you the schools are doing things.
And now the media has changed.
all to say that sometimes when you push a narrative, it matters just as much who is pushing it.
And how you push it.
Because I will tell you this right now.
I understand, I've spoken with people behind the scenes.
I know about KP's relation to Chris and
DA games specifically that was not fully disclosed in this video that we will be going over
as well as her relations, uh, her relation to Lily Orchard.
If you don't know, I love Composible a lot, K.P. However we're going to refer to her. Um,
this, they had a friendship, a longstanding friendship with a Lily Orchard.
until the continued allegations surrounding Lily Orchers and proprieties as well as, you know,
their assault on their sister, Courtney, who happens to be friends with KP, came out.
It is interesting. I will say that it's an interesting part of the lore.
I do reserve the right to say, hey, sometimes people leave friends who do bad things when they don't always know.
but sometimes you don't throw stones in a glass house.
So chat, we're going to get into everything.
I also conveniently thank you to a friend of the channel,
have a downloaded version of the chat logs that was going on during this premiere.
Bro, the last hour of the,
premiere was fucking wild.
It was like, can I just like tease it a little bit or?
Or no.
Yes, chat.
Christine Chandler,
aka Chris Chan was in the chat.
Now, here's my hot take on that.
I don't care.
I don't care that they've been tweeting at Chris Chan on the internet.
I swear to go.
I, listen, the, Chris has served her time and she is now allegedly a ward of the state.
The government has chosen that Chris Chan is not mentally competent enough to be on their own anymore.
And you can feel anything you feel about the fact that Chris Chan, uh, um, most likely had sex with their mother, with Barr.
I 100% agree with you that it's a giant fucking ick.
But like that is the whole, like, my whole thing is that what Chris Chan really needs is to just be off the internet.
The government needs to just steal the internet away from her.
It's the safest thing for her.
Chris, we've done Chris Chan on the channel.
Her life is, in my opinion, very sad.
And it, like, hurts me a lot going over her.
I know that that's going to be a thing that people are going to bring up.
it's not the main focus of this.
I will just say that Chris Chan was there.
Yes, like the stream chat.
There's only a hundred.
The fighting that happened in the chat, but okay.
We have the fighting in the chat.
I was, that was a teaser.
Ash, there was teasers.
Fowlerg's going to have Chris as a featured guest.
I would have to
read out to fucking gooner from Mars to get that.
You can't do that without cat.
I can't do it without cat, and I feel like I would need the gooners from Mars approval for that one.
But yes, we have a copy of the chat as well, and it's fucking spicy.
Because fighting happens in there.
But more importantly, I think what we should do is not even start this video yet.
But let's check on I love Kim Pott.
possible online.
Because...
KP.
KP has been teasing this video for a while.
So, I have a series of tweets.
Dated, even as far back as last year.
Remember what I said that this video has been in the works?
Remember there were months of research said in this video, well, we'll get there.
So on November 12th, 2024, K.P. says, imagine taking sexual harassment so seriously that the first thing you do is trying to make a victim sign in NDA.
Fuck, absolutely fucking, fuck DA games, and Saberspark apparently, for keeping Chris hired.
It's a poor look video coming soon.
So, originally, the video was only about DA games.
games, but specifically this individual Chris, that we will get there throughout the video
and explain their place in it.
Because there's a lot that kind of goes into it.
So let's read the email.
From Blank, hello.
Thank you for your patience in this matter.
While we understand that you are personally serving as the primary port of contact for this case,
we believe it's important that Rachel is given direct communication as we proceed.
Therefore, we will continue to CC Rachel.
and communications on this matter.
The choice of whether to read these communications is at her discretion.
As a company, it is important that we are certain that all necessary information is reaching all relevant parties.
Should Rachel give a signed statement that she does not wish that,
does not wish to have continued communication during our investigation, we would accept
and honor that.
Now, the reason to this will be made a.
a parent in the video at hand.
But it's important to talk about that this video has been teased over a period of time
since November.
And I find that to be very interesting because I have to kind of step out for a second.
And I'll have Greg read the email for me.
But because the Sabrespark allegations were tacked on.
last minute.
And KP confirms that.
Greg, take it away.
Okay.
I don't know if he started this or not, so I'll just read it.
You want me to read or you want him to read it?
You want him to read it.
If you want it, you can read it.
Okay.
Hold on.
Let me make this bigger.
Thank you for your patience in this matter.
Well, we understand that you are personally serving.
is a primary point of contact for this case.
We believe it is important that Rachel is given direct communication as we proceed.
Therefore, we will continue to...
Second paragraph.
You know, you know, you could it.
It's fine.
I would just keep going.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to hear the whole thing.
Fuck you.
Yeah.
Well, you didn't tell them what paragraphs are on.
Were you all not paying attention to the stream?
Are we not paying attention to the stream?
You know what?
Just start over.
start at the time.
12.28 p.m.
No, just, just right here.
Right here!
We are currently.
I would start.
Thank you, teacher. I appreciate that.
Oh, but.
We are currently creating an investigation report into this matter, which, after reviewing all
the evidence, we will decide on which disciplinary action we will be taken going
forward.
We are more than happy to share this report with Rachel, with.
the express understanding that the contents of the report are kept strictly confidential
basis.
This is in accordance with ACAS guidelines and the general data protection regulation.
The investigation report will be given upon signing of a document confirming Rachel understands
and the consequences of breaking this confidentiality agreement.
We also would wish to clear up a point of confusion that has arisen with these communications.
It has been raised, has been a.
has been a raised point by both Rachel and yourself that the YouTube Saber Spark has removed Chris from his employment.
During our investigation into the case, we have communicated directly with Saber Spark who has confirmed that this information is false.
Chris has not been terminated from his employment.
Saber Spark has given consent for this information to be given.
DA Online has his own company policy and procedure and shall be filed.
following this with regards to this case.
Therefore, we will not be considering the actions of external employees during this investigation and disciplinary process.
Finally, with regards to communication, we believe we have enough evidence to conduct a thorough and fair investigation as per the previously mentioned recorded call.
Should Rachel wish to give further information, we would be willing to accept with a written statement under GDPR guidelines.
we will not be continuing to recorded verbal interviews at this time.
Regards DA Online HR rep.
Thank you.
Gamer, you could send me that.
I believe it's who I think it is, but Gamer, you can send me that.
So it's very important to note, and I want to make this very clear,
this is not about sexual assault.
KPs, grudges with Chris, I'll be very clear.
I don't like Chris.
I think Chris is a fucking free.
But we'll get there because it's in the video.
But this...
Can I get a small...
A smaller primer?
I feel like you threw more names at me than the Silamirilian, and I don't know where I am.
What if I told you the entire video does just what I did without explaining half of the shit I'm telling you right now?
Okay.
Chris is a former animator that used to work with K.P.
Who is KP?
Kim Possible.
Impossible.
Well, you literally come in the call on KPay?
No, fucker.
Like, is she a YouTuber?
She is a YouTuber. She is a YouTuber. She's a brony YouTuber and animator.
It's a whole big thing.
You can't just drop me in here. I need to know what's going on.
I dropped you real hot fast.
Yes.
KP is an animation commentary YouTube.
Like they do animation commentary.
I don't know the fuck they call this anymore.
and like that's one of those things.
Cartoon reviews.
Yeah, it's Sabers Spark.
They're Sabers Spark with Jason.
You ever seen Saber Spark?
Spark's channel.
This is KP.
Who is Sabers Spark?
Saber Spark is a guy that does animation content and reviews
on various animations
and their history or
the drama surrounding their history.
He's one of the largest.
He holds currently 2.23 million subscribers.
He is one of the biggest animation related content.
I would call him animation commentary and review.
Not A.211, thank you.
Maybe slightly ACC related.
I'm not going to say ACC because ACC uses, I will say I will say I don't fucking know.
No, I meant like a subgenre.
Like animation, it could be you could have overlap between animation art is all I'm saying.
Yeah.
And it's something really interesting to note that this is, I will not call the allegations against Sabres Spark fake.
What I will say is that a lot of information does need to be, yeah, this is the one I have.
Would you call it absubstantiated?
Unsubstantiated is one.
Thank you, Mr. Gamer.
Those are the ones I do have, but thank you.
Unsubstantiated is one of them.
Another thing I would say is that.
K.P. fucking killed the story dead in the water for a lot of reasons.
Just, they just killed the story.
Because it's tacked on to all of this, that chat, if you haven't been following KP for years, you don't know anything about this.
Because she won't explain this either.
Now, you see this.
Okay, Chris, fuck Saberspark too, I guess.
Does Saberspark know about the Ali?
allegations? No. And as Killjoy points it out very importantly, this Saberspark is large enough to be
under Moist Critical's partner agency thing. Like that's like a big thing to know too that this is a
large enough guy. Officianado Chris is an editor, is an editor for DA games to Saberspark. He used to work
for KP in 2015, 2016-ish. He made up a sexual... Oh!
he made up a sexualized story about my clothing at convention around that time.
The story got back to me last year.
A decade later?
A decade later.
Now again, we will get into Chris's Gooner story. I will be very real.
It's not great. I'm not defending the guy. It's fucking disgusting.
But there are leaps of logic that we are going to go down a...
path of.
Uh, blah to be do, but do, but do do do do do do. I have, I literally have so many more tweets, chat.
Pink pony club. Oh, I'm going to get that pinka pinka pink pony club.
How do you not know that chorus?
Uh, I don't know. So, chat. Okay. I actually, I sent some things to. Actually, I
could go into my T.m's because I sent stuff to, of all people, Chad Logic, because he was covering it one day.
We made a watch party Discord event tomorrow. Now, you see this April 30th. Huh. Huh. Why would you make a watch party
Discord event? For what? I... I wonder. Huh? Chat, what do you think? Wait. Wait. You don't need to
to think. I'll show you. Never think, chat. Never think again. We will tell you everything you need to know.
We will be having a watch party on the video event info here in the Discord. Remember, 10 a. 10 a.m. New victim testimony drops. 12 p.m.
EST. Video.
She is hosting a Discord party event for sexual assault allegations. Grooming. Grooming.
Zephilia and pedophilia. Her own U.R. Now again, I understand that this is the first time K.P. has ever done this from trusted sources. And apparently, she's feeling real shit about it.
This might be the first time anyone's ever done this. Mm-hmm.
Ah, that's not, that's not entirely true.
What you mean?
I mean, I mean, you do the death.
any stuff. And that was, that was of a, of a nature. Some of the, some of that stuff was
premiered. Um, premier is not a watch party. Ah, that's true. Well, they were in, they were in the
stream chat too as well. I don't know. You're right, you're right. It's not the same thing. Yeah. But again,
oh, oh, I would be remiss to not show you this tweet as well. Where are we?
Huh. Where? Oh, this. Time.
to kick some pito and rapist ass tomorrow. Now, oh, no, I said the thing.
Cringe. Again, hyping up your allegations against someone. Some of which are substantiated.
Some of which don't make any sense. And things like that. But I'm getting like, okay, it's real.
I'm getting like Dima Mama vibes from this. Uh, I would just... No, no, no. No, no. Mameau.
Remember when D.M. was hyping up her Zanderhull video as a nuke?
I wasn't around. I wasn't around at that time. Oh. You weren't around that time, yeah.
But I could say that H3 was doing that with Asan. That was a thing. Yeah, it also reminds me of
Ethan Hassan their videos how they were hyping it up. It very much reminds you of the Diamama
Zanderhal nuke. Yeah. I will say, and I'll say this. Um, yes, I do know that Lyo.
Okay, I would have just say it.
Anyways, I asked Lio a little bit questions about this because I know that he is a personal related.
Like, he has a friendship of some kind or a familiarity with KP.
I, I'm not going to throw him under the bus on this one because he's just a liaison to what I understand.
I don't, I ain't going to, he's not involved in any way with the creation of this video.
Because I see it in chat. I want to make it very clear.
From my understanding, Lio is not involved in the creation of this video.
that's all I that's what I know to be true.
Unless proven otherwise was not involved.
But more importantly, you see all this because, and it's important to note, KP tried to evolve a lot
of people in the creation of this video.
You're going to see some famous names in this video.
It's very interesting.
You're going to see some crazy commentary people.
commentary people is relative or any people in this video.
You're going to see cameos from people that you would never think would be in this video.
But let's kind of move forward with that.
I have some other tweets that she put out that I think kind of paint the picture of what she felt
like this video was for her.
See if I have this one right here.
and that one's not really more than at this point.
So these are just like, we're just going to start with these
because I think that these are the most important ones in my personal opinion.
We'll kind of go from there.
Now chat.
Oh, you know, wait, that's right.
I forgot about this tweet.
Oh, God.
Oh, K.P.
Oh, no.
Oh, this, this is a, this is a, this.
It's a spicy meatball of a tweet.
I'm just going to let this tweet speak for itself.
Do you think that this is someone who's going to treat allegations of grooming, pedophilia, and lots of other things very well?
Ooh, wee.
Again.
This is a yikes.
This is, this is a big yikes.
Well, I think without further ado, we should finally...
That looks sweaty.
This is sweaty.
Without further ado, I think it's time to get this fucking URR.
We will, yeah, I already pulled this up, so we don't need to get back to that.
That, that, that, that.
Again, you've seen her hyping up.
She's hyping it up, chat.
So I think without further ado, let's get hyped.
Let's get hyped for the video, chat.
Chat, are you ready?
Oh, God.
Remember to like the stream and donate so we could feed that dog that's somewhere in the house.
Oh, she's right there.
Ha ha ha.
This video is not suitable for all ages and should only be viewed by viewers 18 or older due to the nature of the content discussed and the discussion of sexual predators on the internet.
Trigger warnings for the following.
Pedophilia, Lollicon, and Childs.
So I want to point out, pedophilia, Lollicron, Lollicom.
C, Suicide, Grooming, Anti-Semitism, Sexual, Grooming, Anti-Semitism, Sexual harassment, and Objectification.
Beastiality and Zophilia, rape.
All of these things, you saw the tweets.
She reviews cartoons?
Yes.
Yeah, apparently.
You know, for kids.
For kids, chat.
Or child audience.
Well, I don't know that I won't have for. Actually, no, that's not true.
They do make a thing.
Now, if I'm ever correct.
Speaking of the disclaimer, Kayla says has pinned a comment.
We have a pinned comment from Kayla says that we will get to later, chat.
Yes, the VA in the comments said yes.
So let's talk about that.
They didn't know what the fuck they were reading.
Everybody got little bits and pieces of this.
Nobody really knew from what I could tell.
But we'll get there.
...pronography, suicide, grooming, anti-Semitism, and Nazi imagery, sexual harassment and sexual objectification,
vistiality and zophilia, and rape.
Please do not harass anyone.
So who made this person break these allegations, or did they decide it themselves?
Funny, you should say that.
So, in my brief conversation with Brony Fan Don't,
the individual who is alleging that Sabrespark raped her...
Well, yeah, no, raped her.
her twice, twice at two different events.
Axes with the five.
I mean, given the game she played on her channel once upon a time, those trigger warnings aren't
outside her usual wheelhouse.
So what I want to tell you is, in speaking with Brony Fandone, it seems like the
Google Doc that they made about Black Griffin led the individual, the unnamed
accuseder go to Brony Fandot who directly led them to KP because K.P. had been hyping up a video
behind the scenes and publicly about DA games, Chris, aficionado Chris, as well as Saberspark.
And it was tacked on at the last minute.
Within the last month.
the last month, if not sooner.
How do I know that?
Because it's said in the Premier Chat, which we have an HTML version of.
Name in this video.
Hello viewers. Welcome to another segment of maybe the internet was a big fucking mistake.
Big mistake. Big cute.
On a more serious note, this video covers sexual gratification as well as general sexual harassment.
And it's a very depressing story.
If you're a kid who somehow got past the age restriction, please go away now.
Just go. Now, I don't like covering these stories. We're an animation channel. We cover very important stuff like Disney and not Disney. Okay. Okay. Okay. You're an animation. We're setting up the groundwork chat. Animation channel. Sending up the groundwork.
Sometimes. But I like to think of myself with the John Stewart of the YouTube anime.
Already. We are not even two minutes in. And you're calling yourself the John Stewart of the animation and a good.
YouTube thing.
Don't do that to me, Mr. Gamer.
Don't do that to me.
Please.
What are you doing?
Where are we?
Wow.
Where? How did we get here?
Where do we go from here?
The bar is in hell.
And it only gets lower.
It's going to be one of those.
there is a rework of this video.
I'm not going to lie. I don't know if it's going to come out.
I hope it comes out. Yes, there's going to be a rework of this video.
Allegedly she did remove it because there was a lot of backlash.
Specifically from people who had been assaulted in her community.
It'd be like, hey, I'm a victim of assault.
This is kind of fucked up.
Hmm.
Who's the Jesse Solmay of the animation community?
Birdie.
100% is Bertie.
Birdie is the Jesse Somay of the animation community.
Animation community, I call things out when I feel like I can add something to the conversation.
And it's important to talk about when YouTubers are misusing their platform.
So what's the no-fun situation?
Because I hate it here.
I don't want to be alive anymore.
I've chosen not to keep this person anonymous because I believe this is not a mistake or slip of the tone.
This is an active attempt of slander and misogyny.
And that's just not acceptable.
Also, this incident wasn't freely admitted to me.
I had to have someone else tell me that this was going on in a professional setting.
And he couldn't even tell me himself.
Chris was a team member roughly from 2014 to 2015.
Chat, remember that Chris used to work for KP.
It'll be important later in the stream.
I know, I'm old.
Chris was generally a nice guy in my time knowing him, but he exhibited weird behavior.
Like, you just draw this for your boss, right?
If memory serves, there's also a nude version.
So in looking for the nude version of that clip, of that specific art, we can't find it.
And if memory serves me, there's a fan drawing that may potentially be a nude version, but it's not attributed to Chris.
And I will say that KP doesn't have it either.
And I'll tell you why.
because KP will show you much worse than a new version of a pony sitting on a fucking toilet.
We'd make sure to get the time sense of that stuff so we can skip past.
Nope.
I thought about that.
No, we didn't.
Well, we didn't.
Well, good luck, chat.
We believe in you.
Your discretion is advised.
Go fuck yourselves.
Me too.
We get demonetized.
Oh, yeah.
But guys, this stream is going to get demonetized because of this person.
So remember, like and subscribe.
Donate.
Tip, do the things.
I don't fucking know.
Become a member today.
It's going to get rough.
That's disgusting.
He was also my first trip to Everfree Northwest, the one we did the blog about.
He's this guy here.
The story is as follows.
I'm not going to read it myself because it's going to make me sick.
So I'm just going to have someone else read it.
At some point.
Hello, June the King.
Everybody.
It's everyone's favorite YouTuber.
June the King.
I thought this was a cutaway from a different video.
No.
He seen this video.
The nude version was...
He is a commentary.
essayist.
He's an essayist.
He's done some really good essay videos.
He did some key someone on fucking Lily Orchard.
DSP, Lily Orchard.
Ah, hey, Sai, how you doing?
We're going to get into a lot of stuff, Cy.
The nude version was never found.
The version that was the story.
displayed was made over 10 years ago.
Yeah, we went over that.
The KP told no one about it.
Everybody, everyone was doing small bits and pieces of the voice work.
They didn't know what it was all coming together to be.
Also, question, like, she said she worked, he worked for her.
That drawing could have literally been done for a thumbnail or a video gag, because she does really
shitty gags.
Yeah.
Like, I've drawn, like, weird-ass shit for this channel.
Yeah, you're a pony.
Yeah, you drew me with Dem Boy Link, which thank you.
Yeah, and I drew you pregnant.
You have drawn me pregnant.
The first of many.
The channel quite put up a video about drawing people pregnant.
He put up a recent video about it.
I'm like, oh, I need to check this out.
Over the last few years, Chris told his story, allegedly several times that,
that in the bathroom of the hotel where the group was staying,
he was masturbating to K.P.'s clothing.
Chris states that this is a lie, as he was actually constipated during the trip,
and there were no witnesses to his masturbation story in or near the hotel room.
No one saw me do it, see, you can't prove it.
So, what it seems like to me is Chris made a disgusting story.
I do need to make this very clear.
It's a disgusting story.
The story is indefensible.
that he was
pleasuring himself on the john
and that her clothing was in the vicinity of the goon in session
is Chris Saberspark?
No.
It's almost...
Come in for a while, Cat.
Like 90% of this video is other people.
90% of the video is other people.
Very important to note that.
There's a reason why.
Why it's important.
Because if you remember, the video is called What Ruined Saberspark and DA Games.
Not how Chris officiato Chris ruined me and I have a personal grudge with him because he's the disgusting pervert.
Not DA games are filled with potentially predators.
It's what ruined Saberspark and DA games.
To be fair.
I think the other title wouldn't work in the SEO.
Hey, listen, if I can get away with Mama Max's back and he wants to show you his Leviathan.
That was really good.
I really liked that one.
Listen, it was a good one.
Chad, I'll tell you this.
Clickbait is like my passion.
There is nothing better than making it like a shitty title.
That makes no sense.
It's one of my favorite things.
but continuing.
We don't know the details about who the story was.
Hey, sigh, thank you for the five.
Thank you. Thank you, thank you, Cy.
Thank you, Cy.
This whole thing is a mess, and I'm rolling around in the Shardon Freud like a pig in mud.
Very base, very base.
Cy, front of the channel. Thank you so much.
Ace, I think we all won.
Toll 2. Besides the whistleblower, who will remain anonymous.
But it was likely Will Ryan, head of the YouTube channel, D.A. Games.
As Chris and Will are friends, as well as friends.
Okay, hold up, hold on. I want to highlight this for a second.
Yes, you did vote for one trick brony for the title. Yes.
... witnesses to his masturbation story in or near the hotel room.
We don't know the details about who the story was told, too, besides the whistleblower who will remain anonymous.
but it was likely Will Ryan, head of the YouTube channel, DA Games.
As Chris and Will are friends, as well as friends and or employees of that YouTube channel.
So they have...
These are names I've never heard of.
Oh, you'll never, I've never heard of them.
ever. So you have no proof that Will, who will come back in later in the video,
you have no proof that Will was the person who either knew or even was the whistleblower,
but you are making an assumption about that. You are adding, listen, I don't know June the King,
probably seems like a nice guy. I'd love them eat them. I think I really like his videos.
You are lending your credibility to what? Probably.
a fucking probably about a story like a story like this is like this is like this is
workplace like like a malpractice like this is sexual assault in the work like sexual assault.
This is sexual harassment in the workplace.
You don't just put a maybe to something.
You don't.
Chris also started working for DA.
So Chris started working for DA games.
Again, remember Chris is the reason why DA games.
I guess was ruined. It's almost like the vendetta against DA Games. I mean, sorry,
the vendetta against officiato Chris is what ruined Saberspark in DA Games. Very interesting, chat.
We'll get there. I've never heard of the DA Games allegations. Lady, we will get into them.
We will also have a separate stream for them. I'm going to tell you right now, they're not great.
eight games shortly after leaving the I Love Compossible and Law Production Team.
So the timelines track.
Once KP was informed that this incident took place, she confronted him.
So, uh, Hope Wells, okay. No, I'm not 100% okay. Oh dear.
By text. And this is just, uh, things discussing, um,
her finding out and the fact that they're going to start talking about it. But again, we don't know who the
whistleblower is for the story. Nor do we understand if Will,
from DA Games was ever involved in this story being told. Nobody has proof of that.
And an audio confession. Uh, about the trip to Everfree. How you, quote, masturbated in the bathroom,
quote, tripped on the toilet and, quote, fell on my panties and ejaculated. I am beyond disappointed
and frankly, incredibly disgusted. How the fuck? The audio. Is that okay to tell people in any way
I could tolerate a lot, Chris. I could tolerate you bragging about working for me. I could tolerate the KP sitting on the toilet or...
So the art was for KP.
Yes. As Killjoy continually is, it puts in the chat, I do want to make this very clear. I am not in defense of any of these fuckers.
What I am highlighting is that this was a very bad reporting.
because, hey, why was Chris fired or let go or left? Could it be that K.P. herself has been
battling allegations for years about being a really bad boss.
Be crazy if she's been battling those allegations for years, something she doesn't disclose.
All right. Well, first, I think it's the obvious thing is one.
Just want to profusely apologize for that terrible fucking thing I did.
Mm-hmm.
And that was an absolute horrible person.
We will be going over KP leaks.
There is a story there. It ties to this. Again, like I said, this is a hit piece.
years in the making.
So many years ago, and you didn't deserve that. So...
Right. So I have a couple of things. So my source says,
you told this story in front of Will and Sean a couple other people. Is that correct?
That would probably be correct, yeah.
So Will has heard the story probably in passing a couple of times, correct?
Yeah, probably once.
Okay. Same with Sean?
Yes, Sean.
Okay. Did you talk to...
Sean.
So this is a call recorded between K.P. and officiantado Chris.
I can't remember if she said it. In 2020, in 2023, about an ever-free conversation he had in 2015.
Yep. Or the story has gone around here and there as a quote, locker room joke.
You'll see, Greg, you will see the comparison later.
Privately about a.
anything else that happened when you were working on the team that I don't know about?
Not that I can remember.
Okay.
Nothing I say is...
Also, it's important to note that this conversation is allegedly being recorded,
and Chris doesn't know that.
Oh.
At 2023, at some point, you got to realize that, though.
Yeah.
Yeah, fair.
But yeah, but if you live in a one-party consent state, it gets...
Yeah.
That's the L-Zero thing.
It's tricky.
One party, the two-party. You've got to be careful.
Because California is the one that you've got to be careful about.
But I would, personally, I would just be wary of getting into the bills.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Excuse what I did because it's inexcusable, what I did.
Can you?
Do you want me to say what the story was just for contact?
I feel like a few people could sue K.P. from this.
So I've been told things behind the scenes a little bit here and there.
and done my own little research.
So if DA Games was collaborating in some way, shape, and form,
if DA Games is collaborating somehow in shape and form with K.P.
in a way, that lends itself to this idea,
that they were looking into it, they've investigated it,
and they'd like to come forward with her to it,
as she kind of releases those internal information and documents,
and there's lawyers involved?
I don't know the legality.
Again, we are not lawyers,
but it seems like lawyers are already involved in this.
I mean, I guess it makes more sense if I do,
because I don't think it's fair for you to have to reiterate that.
horrible thing. Sure, go ahead.
Yeah, so the old...
And I know she admits to it and explains her reasoning later.
Again, it's cool.
Pale goes is that I pleasured myself in the hotel bathroom we were sharing during one of our
breaks when everyone was gone and whatever.
And that I fell off the John after
basically getting lightheaded from what would be.
ejaculation falling on the floor
where your dirty clothes also happened to be
and that my face planted
on your underwear.
Right.
Part of my PD version, I have a six-year-old in the other room,
so.
He is...
You? You okay?
I'm sorry. The night that he had his
kid in the other room is like peak.
It's like, how can it get worse?
Oh, my kid was in the other room.
This is not Chris.
I was sorry, this is Chris.
This is not Saberspark.
I need to make that very fucking clear when I'd say this.
This is a disgusting story to say about your boss.
We need like a little graphic says,
Saber Spark has not appeared in the video yet.
Yeah, we need a little graphic.
Saber Spark is not here yet.
But again, this is disgusting.
What does this have to do with Saber Spark though?
That's...
It's insane.
Oh, just to answer the Swobling, just to answer your question a little bit further,
I personally, we like streaming.
I like putting everything together in order
in a way that it creates a cohesive stream and narrative.
That's just my personal thing.
If you want to see edited versions, we do that.
Hey, Artemis, Nick to the Five.
How do you fall off the toilet from rubbing one out?
Your hand can't be that good.
I, listen, listen.
Vinegar strokes for folks.
I don't know what to tell you.
Oh, God.
Dude.
I don't know what that means, but I'm appalled.
And again.
HR?
I am the HR.
No.
I'm not.
I know, I know.
I know it was HR.
But again, like, this is a disgusting story to say about your former boss.
Oh, your current boss at the time.
You're a diesel ace.
What are you trying to do?
He would have been, he would have been.
He was still in her employee at his time.
At that time.
Yeah.
He was still her employee.
Not only just your boss, but like anybody that you know or that these other people would also know.
Or anybody, really?
Like, if you just said this offhandedly about any person I would let, they wouldn't know, like, that's bad.
That's bad enough.
But like, this person are actively aware of one another, at least, if not friendly.
Friendly terms.
That's kind of fucked up.
And I want to make it very, very clear.
I guess I've heard this type of talk from men and women, actually.
Yes.
Believe me, I have.
Oh, God.
But it doesn't excuse it.
From what I can tell from behind the scenes,
and we will be going over the KP leaks that went on 4chan at one time,
because there's a whole big, there's allegations of her just being a really shitty boss.
It's kind of wild, and it's a lot.
But if I have a shitty boss, I'm going to be up front.
I have a shitty boss.
I would just say I would want to like ring their neck.
I wouldn't talk about fucking like all the shit that he's saying.
He's saying that he fucking came in her fucking pant.
Like he fell off the toilet.
And mid ejaculation, he somehow fucking sniffed her panties.
And it made him what, go come harder?
Like, what the fuck?
Like that's an insane thing.
She has had an insane contract slash NDA for her free animators and free editors.
Yes.
Oh, my, oh, boy.
That is what has come out.
Do you think, do you think this story's true that that Chris went around telling people?
I don't know, because it sounds so Atlantic and so over the top.
He's admitting to have to have it said it, right?
He's admitting to the joke.
I don't think this happened.
He's admitting specifically to the joke.
Nobody, this is all, this is, he's the only one that knows this exists.
He could have just never said the fucking story.
and again, it's not, this conversation is not the problem.
It's, this conversation is why Saberspark is involved.
Not really DA Games, because DA games has its own allegations,
but this conversation is the only reason Saberspark was ever originally going to be mentioned in this video.
Did he have?
have any knowledge of this. If he's had known knowledge of this fucking story, what is he
supposed to do? And if, let's say, he finds out knowledge of this story, because this conversation
happened in 2023, the email that KP got is presumably last year in 2024. If Chris is going
around, yeah, we had a conversation, she's pissed, but I profusely apologized, they're able to believe that.
Wait, I'm also confused. Okay, okay, okay. So he was not fired for this joke, correct?
No, he would have left KP. She finds out about this joke years later.
I will say this. She's allowed to care about this. This is a shitty joke. Yeah.
Okay, I get, but like, in the capacity. It's beyond talking shit about, it's beyond talking shit about her. It's like having a sexualized story.
involving her. And he's admitting to it. I think the thing that I have an issue with is this is the story
why all of these creators should experience the life ruination. Again, Vichinado Chris told a disgusting story,
making that very, very clear. But we've seen a lot of allegations and a lot of people say a lot
of disgusting things and they could still exist. Everyone has the capacity for change, because
this story is almost a decade old. If not a decade old.
I am surprised that he even like entertained having a conversation with her because he doesn't work for her anymore.
That's, well, that's what I was going to say too is. We don't know what their relationship is post them working together.
Yeah. They could still be on friendly terms or friend terms up until her hearing this.
She did have very strict NDAs. She had her worker assigned. So I don't know.
Well, there's a relationship you want to keep. That's what I'm saying. We don't know. That's what I'm saying. We don't know.
any of that. So like her reaching out to him, we don't know what his thoughts are behind him getting
in this call in 2023, eight years after telling the story. Yes. This story is a, this is a joke. There's
no way to prove this bathroom story is true. And it's why I'm saying that the lack of disclosure
of that is insane. How old was Chris at time? Everybody at this point is a consenting adult. This story,
they're consenting adults. I don't, unless proven that either these two were minors, which I don't
believe so because they had, she had a company at the time, and he was working for her, these are adults.
So think 20s if they're now in their 30s. Very important to note that age will come into play later,
but we'll get there. Again, it's, it's, we talked about this a long time ago, if you remember our destiny,
coverage stuff. I thought, again, I hate the day, bringing up his name, President Sunday,
you know, whatever, whatever. The reason I had a very big problem with Sunday's video is when you are
doing an expose on someone you have a history with, you need to expressly outline the timeline
of you two, because if anybody can find you publicly trying to do things, you publicly trying to do things,
behind the scenes or whatever, or hyping up emails, or other, um, other, uh, um,
employees coming out of the woodwork and saying things unsubstantiated or not,
there's, you are supposed to know decades of history to get into this video.
Decades of history or a decade. Or you're expected to know. Yeah, you're expected to know. Yeah. But how
are you supposed to know that when Sabres Spark is,
the most important person in this video.
He's in the title.
He's in the fucking title. He's the largest creator of this video in this video. So let's start
with Chris. Exactly.
Okay, I wasn't aware of that, but thanks for being honest.
Chris and his audio testimony assured his other boss, YouTuber Saberspark wasn't told
this story. But it's unclear how truthful Chris is being when he says that.
I wouldn't, okay. If I was June,
I would have never put, I would have never co-signed saying that. Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's,
I would have never, that's, remember, remember last night we were talking about, oh my, I'm so, not last night,
nights ago, I'm really, I'm still exhausted, I'm trying to remember what it was that we were saying,
but there was a point where I had made a point that, uh, YouTubers would just believe other YouTubers or
just kind of sign off on that from the Mama Mac stuff. Like, they would just kind of go along with it because,
you know, they, they already have, like, good reputation in the books. Why would they need to, like,
they wouldn't have, like, like, like, they wouldn't have, like,
the red flag to question the things that are being sent to them to read or to record type of thing.
I could see that happening here. Like, you already have a good rapport with KP and they're asking you to
voice this thing. But at some point, you got to question what it is you're reading.
Yeah, and like, you can't, Ron Burgundy, an anchor man. Right. And KP wrote things for these people.
This wasn't just like anything else. But like, like, KP wrote this for people. In some regard, some
other regards are YouTube videos that she pulled from. We'll get there because I know, I know, I know
has, uh, she wrote it for sure, but like, you're still reading it. When you're reading it,
you're not just, you got to read it. If someone ever asked me to be featured in their video,
all I, all I ever asked, this is the one thing I will say, if you're a content creator, uh, and you were like,
hey, Fowalji, I want you to, to cover something in a video, uh, that I'm working on. All I ever ask is
you show me the proof of what the fuck I'm referencing. If you can't show me the proof of what the fuck I'm referencing,
if you can't show me the proof of, you can't show me the proof.
and verifiably where to fuck you found it, I'm not reading in your, your, your video, if it's specifically
about drama content. Because that, like, that, this is a level of I, you need this.
You can't just go out and do this. We have a lot of ground to cover. So let's keep going.
Chris also tries to steer the conversation to not include too much explicitly, stating that, quote,
there is a baby in the other room, unquote. But then also might have been employed to lessen the
the harshness of the anger.
What, that doesn't? Oh, it's, it's a.
a ploy? You don't know this. This is what we call poisoning the well, chat.
Present. Regardless, since Chris says he was lying about the whole incident, it's difficult to
take his word on anything due to this lie and the actions he took regarding it. So once I was
informed of this information. But if he said he was, uh, uh, Falji, can you read my Beckett X Diesel X,
X, Falji, Mpreg, Yawi fanfic. Axis send it over and I will and I will and I will court it. No.
Yeah, Axis. No. You do know. You know, cover. You know, we know the cover. You know,
I will make...
You know people make art for it. You know people will make art for it.
Yes.
He says, yeah. He doesn't say toxic, yeah.
You know that'd be toxic.
I don't know anything. I've never read it.
I, that kind of yowie.
I trust Axis.
All right. Let's get back to it.
And got Chris admitting to it. I sent that proof to Saberspark through mutual friends and to DA games.
After reaching out twice and waiting months for any private messages, I eventually received someone...
So this is the email that we read.
Yeah.
Just want to make it very clear.
Different editing or different sensor.
I don't know why it seems unnecessary.
Yeah, I don't know why I did it either.
It doesn't matter.
A DA games and they're totally real HR department that totally exists,
even though I couldn't find any proof of it online.
That is a company email.
They're getting lawyers involved.
At the op-block. So far,
VAs who took this job are upset because they were not told
about the tone of the exposed because of the jokes
and the fact that a victim would be.
coming forward in this. Yeah, that's the other thing too.
Yes, this video is 80% of KP being a Karen.
You're absolutely correct.
Yeah.
Karen possible.
What's with this?
They have an HR. Where are they? I don't know. Here's funny Tee-he meme.
Just because you don't have an HR doesn't mean that somebody else doesn't.
Yeah, she definitely doesn't have an HR.
Because I couldn't find it. I couldn't find K.E.
having an HR. So yeah.
That's totally not run by Will's roommate who's financially dependent on him.
Any HR department would be a financially dependent. Okay. So fun fact, don't trust HR.
They work for the company. They work for the company. Their job is to protect the company.
Oh, we literally said this in the fucking Mr. B shit. shit. As much as I don't like dog pack, don't trust company HR.
They fuck you at every turn.
And for the record, I assume Chris knew he was being recorded because it was a call about safety.
It only gets worse for...
That is not an excuse.
That is a terrible reason or like reasoning to have.
Hold yourself to the standard that you recorded it on fucking purpose.
Just hold yourself to the standard.
It's crazy.
Like, just do it.
If you do it, I'm not going to fucking fight you on it.
Why would you not hold yourself to the standard where you just say, hey, I'm recording it.
And I did it without his knowledge.
Fuck him.
Who cares?
I think it's still a disgusting story.
I'm here.
Oh, no, witty, Tee, funny, more memes.
Oh, Johntron.
Not Johntron.
Oh, let's go.
Skow for.
Epinology, everybody.
The audio balancing for that was fucking awful.
Oh, the audio balancing gets fucked.
But wait, there's more, chat.
Oh, Greg, I never told you this.
About John John.
No.
What if I told you this video and Mama Max's video have way more in common than you realize?
Because of the amount of cutaways.
No, look at the amount of cutaways.
How many cutaways were in Mama Max?
The TED Talks, the multiple of the...
To get away to his whole video, Raw.
Let's bring a political comparison.
For those who forgot or are not American, good for you.
The 2016 leak of the Hollywood access tape was a big deal.
In a bus, we have an orange man who shall not be named.
Guys, let's talk about Hollywood access.
Where are we going?
What?
Why are we talking about Trump?
What is happening?
It's not about Trump.
It's about Billy Bush.
Let's go!
Have you guys ever wanted to talk about grab him by the pussy?
Yeah.
Apparently K.P.
He does?
When does this become political?
What does this have to do with Sabresport?
What does this have to do with cartoons?
What does this have to do with your cartoon review channel?
Oh, God.
And Billy Bush, a member of the Bush family.
He is a cousin of President George W. Bush, or as my Gen Z audience would know, the shoe guy.
Who throws a shoe?
Honestly.
Orange man was talking about women in an inappropriate way.
Why?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, why are we censoring?
I don't.
Why are we censoring Trump's face? I don't.
Why are we censoring?
I don't know.
And Embry, you make up a really good point.
This is something Lily does in her videos.
Be really weird if they were best friends until it was inconvenient for K.P.
Now I'll be very real.
I will say this openly and honestly.
I don't blame K.P.
If she did not know about Lily's disgusting, abhorrent behavior.
But if you get the grace of that, then you need to give them.
the grace to Sabre Spark about that.
You have to, you can't choose how you feel about something and how you get away from something.
And then move on.
People wonder about Lily for years.
I've also seen evidence of that.
It's like, it's like, don't throw rocks of glass houses.
You live in a literal glass house.
Can I, can I get a TLDR and Lily Orchard?
I don't know who that is.
Uh, sexual.
Sexual.
Okay.
sexual improprieties with their sister.
Blackmailed friends to force them to watch her get undressed or was it forced blackmail people to get undressed in front of her?
I don't know much about Lily Orchard. I honestly.
I watched like Ziley watch a little bit of June the King.
I'm about to say it'd be crazy if June the King has a video.
I can't watch it.
I was about to say it'd be crazy if June the King had a video on Lily Orchard.
No, that's crazy that he like did a video with KP after like he did his video on Lily Orchard.
Because you should know, like, the relationship.
Oh, boy.
You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful.
I just start kissing them.
It's like a magnet.
Now, even though this was in 2005, we leaked in 2016,
and even though Billy Bush was now working for the Today Show and not Hollywood Access,
where the tape was obtained, Bush was still fired on moral grounds, not con.
What are we?
What are we talking about?
This is 10 years ago.
Go on.
This is 10 plus years ago.
Or maybe it's just 10 years ago.
Does anyone miss W?
Okay.
I want to make something very clear.
Billy Bush was only fired on moral grounds on paper.
And then you got hired somewhere else.
He did get hired somewhere else.
But I want to, like, highlight this for a second.
That is not what happened.
If you read between the lines, they put a lot of things in your contract for clauses
so they can fire you for anything.
And you can't sue for wrongful termination.
That's literally every job I've ever had and will ever have.
That's why the contract is so fucking expansive.
Billy Bush was fired because it was a bad publicity when that came out.
Today was like, we're not dealing with this shit.
You're gone.
Probably had a fucking severance package too in some way, shape, and form.
Because he's a Bush.
Who knows?
Yeah.
He's a Bush.
Yeah.
Like, he's political royalty.
Hmm.
Again, this is the other.
Why are you addressing this?
We don't care about Billy Bush because it's important because this is the standard that she's setting up.
Because K.B. cares for some reason about it.
Oh, no.
I don't wait to see your reaction to that bit long.
Hint, it's related to Seinfeld.
Yeah, I know about it.
I heard there's a Seinfeld bit, but I don't know what yet.
Oh, we'll see.
I'm waiting to hear the Seinfeld twang.
But here we go, Chad.
If you know what time it is, it's time to feed that dog.
It's time to feed the puffers.
It's time to give a treats.
It's time to feed that dog now.
On the uplock stream tonight.
Hello, Chad.
It's your first time here.
Remember to like and subscribe.
Maybe you become a member.
But we feed that dog on this channel.
There you go.
And we have fed that doggo.
What we're going to do here.
She's like, yes, father, give me payment.
Yes, I know.
But that also means we raise the number.
But it goes to a different thing.
We're going to feed that doggo tribes, too.
If you want to derail the stream.
You know what to do, chat?
What?
What do you?
Post the stream derail?
No, no, no, no, no.
If you, they want to derail the stream, feed the dog.
God, the fucking slop father.
I see that, but Junk.
We'll pull that up later because there's a lot.
Can I pet that dog?
Good girl.
She's a good girl.
Contract obligations.
It seems like keeping him on staff would be a bad look for the Today Show, despite this happening over 10 years ago.
Imagine that.
So I find this before his contract.
used to be weak at best.
The ironic thing is, Bush was mostly going along with what was said.
Chris actually did more than Bush did and suffered less consequences.
As well, if Chris told the story multiple times, I would assume one of those times was
after his contract was signed.
But don't worry, Chris can still run for president.
So can you.
What is the joke?
I?
I can run for president.
Making a Bush president claim?
I'm like, yeah, Jeb tried twice and failed.
Is this a poeat for running again and succeeding after this?
I don't understand what, okay.
I'm just going to check this up to bad political joke.
Please clap.
Please clap, chat.
The joke is Trump.
The joke is she's a liberal.
The joke is she's liberal.
We were very progressive on this, on this panel, I guess.
But as a progressive, I can make fun about other.
100%.
Yeah.
And again, if they investigated it and they found that Chris is not violating anything,
KP literally didn't fire him after she found out about the story, so the fact that she's criticizing other people for not doing so is,
well, she never got the chance to fire him because he was already gone.
That's the other thing.
He wasn't working for KP anymore.
Yeah, she's saying that she heard this story almost a decade later.
Yeah.
Just listen to how Bush described it affecting his family.
What was it like for you to go back home after the...
Why are weirs?
Who cares? You made the point.
Oh my God. What are we going to talk about Saber Spark?
That's a good question, Q. I wonder where we're going to talk about Saber Spark.
Tape had been released.
What is being gaslit into a different video?
What was that moment like for you?
Well, the initial moments.
Chat, it's time to do it.
This isn't real.
Time to go a little bit faster, chat.
Oh, it's real.
It gets more real.
This can't be any.
Remember how I said this has...
I think it is, Greg?
Remember when I said this had more in common with fucking Mama Max's video?
The thing was we were, like, a couple of us were watching it live.
Oh, my God.
Like we're at this part and we're like, what the fuck is going?
on. What is this fever dream of a video? What is she trying to say?
Oh, yeah, fun fact. We were there the entire premiere. We were tracking this video from like
moment one. Yes. Oh no, Axe.
Saber doesn't come in until like an hour, I think. Axel, it's not even an hour. It's 90% in the
video. 90% of the video.
She didn't even mention DA games yet, but we'll get there.
me before and now they're outside the gate and ready to go.
Once we settled and got to connect, there was a powerful moment my now 16-year-old daughter called me,
and she was in tears.
And she was really upset.
And I said, Mary, it's going to be okay.
You know, don't worry.
And she said, no.
Why were you laughing at the things that he was saying on that bus?
Why were you playing along with that?
It wasn't funny.
I said, Mary, I am sorry.
And there is no good answer for that.
Who asked?
If you take another extreme example, do you guys remember the Michael Vick conjure or she?
he's back. Michael Vic.
Michael Vic.
He's break.
Michael Vic.
Dog fighting.
Very fame.
Very famously, Michael Vic.
I remember.
Used to be a quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons.
They found him dog fighting.
They actually arrested him.
I'm pretty sure he went to jail.
He went to jail.
He paid his debt to society.
What, eight years he was in jail?
Yes.
I don't know if it was that long.
He actually came.
back. He had an eight years.
He came back.
And like, if I remember correctly, he's, he's worked on repairing his image specifically with, like, pet communities and things like that.
Post his, post his, uh, post his arrest.
Yeah, post his arrest.
The thing is like, Michael was arrested when I was in high school.
I was, I remember.
I was also in, no, you had to.
younger because, no, maybe it was after I graduated high school.
Bronies, do you get the Michael Vic reference?
Okay, Brodies in chat.
How many of you were met about Michael Vic?
When did Michael Vic go to jail?
It was like 2004?
You could look at, oh, I did you got a computer?
I know, I know, I'm just talking.
No, no, Q, this is your moment.
And I, I, I don't know.
If you do that, you'll be doing more research than KP.
Yeah.
For those who don't know American football, player Michael Vic was caught running a dog fighting,
ring, you know, where they take poor little puppies.
2007.
Yeah.
He went to jail in 2007.
Almost 20 years ago.
It literally.
18 years ago.
Any, no, no, okay. I want to let you know,
he spent 21 months
in federal prison. He didn't even spend two years.
He did a year and 10, 10 months?
year and nine months.
And what is...
You were born the day Michael Vitt went to prison.
You can vote now.
Do you want to know why Michael,
Vick is such a bad comparison.
Michael Vick, after paying a debt to society,
actually went back into the NFL.
He did.
He was a backup for a bit.
He actually played, I believe.
He played for the Eagles.
Yeah.
And he actually had.
He actually didn't play terribly either.
No.
Michael Vick was one of my favorite quarterbacks in the league.
And I think he's proto for every running quarterback since,
and nobody's ever compared to him.
Okay.
Because he was a better past.
than all of them.
Didn't, wasn't he on the bench and I don't know who was playing starter?
They went down and Michael Vick went in.
I believe Foll's...
And then Vick was like the starter for a while, wasn't he?
Yeah, yeah, Foles went down twice.
He also didn't sexually assault anybody that we know of.
Yeah, he all that we know of, yeah.
But again, he paid his debt to society and was allowed to work back in the industry.
So what KP is stating, hey, here's the Michael Vick comparison.
So of...
Chris has never talked about the story again and is getting reprimanded behind the scenes.
Why are you...
Why are you saying the people who still allow him to work with them are inherently terrible
because Chris is around?
This is a terrible comparison.
He was allowed to work in the NFL again.
Yeah, he played for the Google.
I'm pretty sure there's no clause in a small contract that says, don't do that.
But he was...
Anybody can make YouTube videos, Fowdee.
By the way, by the way...
That is becoming more and more than.
I want to point out, I want to point out that Michael Vick is doing just fine as head coach of Norfolk State.
Yeah.
He's a college head coach now.
He's doing just fine.
Moonbunnies.
Moonbodies is exactly correct.
If Michael Vick never had gotten arrested, he would have been the LeBron James of the NFL.
I will stand on those grounds.
He was that good.
He was...
And he was...
better fucking passer than people give him credit for.
And he coined the rushing...
The rushing style that you see in the NFL today.
I'm a big football nerd.
I don't know about that.
Prior to? Prior to. Prior to?
I think that was Cordell Stewart?
Uh, maybe, but I would say Vic really exemplified it in the new age.
But do you want to know what sucks, though?
Brett Farr was a running quarterback, too.
You want to know what sex, though?
sports nerds?
What?
The only thing me and Ash ever know him for is that dog fighting.
Yeah, that happens.
That's what he's going to be known for the rest of his life.
Also, Pref Thar was a running quarterback, and that was before Michael Vick.
I don't know who that is.
John Elway number one.
You don't know who Brett Farv is?
We don't got time for this, chat.
Let's keep going.
It's also fired on moral grounds.
Imagine consequences for your actions.
At the very least, let's...
Again, moral grounds is a loose thing.
Yeah, this is, yeah.
Yeah, this has nothing to do.
with Saber Sparkleoth, please.
This is two hours.
Oh!
But again,
moral clause is just used
to fire anybody
for other things.
He was also in jail!
He went to jail!
What are they going to do?
Keep him on the fucking bench
while he's in federal
state, like federal prison?
Oh.
Soon the absolute best of the situation.
Chris was being truthful.
Saber and I will.
You're saying
he's doubtful.
So you're...
No.
Again, a moral judgment that you have no basis of a reality of
because the story got back to her
that they heard it back then.
Ay, aye, aye.
OPP, I knew W.A.
Chobret Fav was when I was five.
Risa, the reason why you put Sabre's name first
is because he's the one with the most fucking pull.
Also, thank you for the donno.
Thank you.
The don't know.
Zaki Kentai.
Thank you, thank you.
wasn't there to hear these conversations.
This happened before he was hired somehow.
I'm glad a whistleblower came forward,
but even so, if this is how someone is talking about women,
shouldn't you tell their future bosses?
Does an employee talk about women in this unethical...
So are you blaming the whistleblower now, the person that came...
So this part confused me.
Listen to this part again.
I'm going to hear these conversations.
This happened before he was hired somehow.
I'm glad a whistleblower came forward,
but even so, if this is how someone is talking about women,
shouldn't you tell their future bosses?
Doesn't employee talk about women in an unethical way
make the company look bad.
Shouldn't you tell their future bosses?
How would you tell a future boss?
How would you...
Hey, he said this thing that was unsubstantiated at the time.
That implies that someone is stalking this dude to know when he gets a new job
so they can tell their new employer that, hey, this guy did this.
She is calling for blackballing of Chris is what she really wants.
Yeah.
She wants great that we could say it.
Again, what Chris did in.
He doesn't want him to work and walk in there work in the industry ever again.
Yeah.
Okay.
She should release that whole call so that you could see if he's apologized.
Everyone can, yeah, everyone can judge for themselves because he didn't release a full call.
We don't have the context to know.
If he said in 2023, hey, you know, I said it and I'm not sorry, and it is true.
You know, if he said crazy shit and added on to it, that's one thing.
But if he's, you know, if he's, you know, I admitted I said crazy shit.
I said crazy shit, whether it's true or not, whatever.
But also, I'm sorry, blah, blah, blah.
Like, you can never forgive him, but like, like, that's not you because of what he's saying about you.
This is the same shit.
Okay, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm going to, I'm going to point this out.
This is the same shit people were doing to try and get people fired for things that they said online.
Yeah.
This is, she wants him to be canceled.
Again, I don't, and I, again, we have the op block do not agree with a,
Chris said. It's fucked up and disgusting. I don't like that.
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not defending him on, on what he said or did at all.
When we were talking about this in her server, in her Discord server, the channels got deleted,
and some people were talking about it and got timed out.
What regarding what, Ash? KP only wanted the state her BS with him. Yeah, I would agree.
This is the reason there are, these, this is the reason why they're included. She is saying Chris can't work in the industry.
because of what he did to her. Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was about this video.
Yeah, Ash, I got you. I got you. I got you.
Again, there's history between them.
And there's further history that proves that, and I can't say it's Chris for sure,
but there's further history regarding the KP Anon leaks that ties into other things.
But we'll get there.
I mean, this isn't just a slip of the tongue.
This is a purposeful attempt to objectify women due to bitterness and self-esteem issues,
and should be taken seriously in any workplace, even a virtual one like YouTube.
And the fact that Dia Games and others value Chris's safety and privacy more than holding him accountable makes me worry, because this is harassment.
And I don't have to take it.
New development.
Harassment?
We'll get there.
This sounds so much worse when you really think about the implications of what she's saying.
She's terrible.
Thank you, Axel.
Thank you.
Again, like, if somebody, if somebody,
somebody saying a bad story or a bad joke or being inappropriate a decade ago.
And if they've, there's no consistent, uh, uh, instances of it happening again with multiple women,
that's different than like hiring a dude who is known as, as a, you know, sexual deviant or a sex pest or whatever, you know?
Or am I wrong? I agree.
Yeah, I agree.
That was really long, boss.
Sorry.
I want to be a very pregnant pause, Greg.
I mean, I mean, we are pregnant.
We are pregnant.
I have not drawn to Greg.
Greg pregnant, but I don't know.
Don't you fucking dare.
Okay.
I will say this.
I do want to highlight this for a second because I know myself and the other ops have been focusing.
We did a lot of research.
So I fucking, please, you support this channel.
I don't, listen, I know I shill.
for like joke's sake.
But like this, this is going to be like three streams worth of information.
Brother, you, you, you shill for other people's products.
I killed, Jill Joie has a, uh, kill joy has a throne.
He did a lot of words.
You could see.
You're like, I'm going to, I'm going to talk about Diesel's coffee and please stop to Beckett.
We have, we have a cofi in the Discord.
Uh, you can go there, uh, like the video, subscribe to the thing.
Yeah, we, yeah, show harder.
Okay.
So like this is some of the other stuff too.
I am not a piece of female meat that you can brag about by having an association with.
I was your boss and you made sexual comments about me constantly, which I tolerated, but I will not tolerate this.
So then the question was, where was the line when they made sexual comment?
Was there a back and forth?
Question.
Not okay, but still.
Question.
Why are they using the image of Saber Spark as if to imply that Saber Spark was the one that said this?
This is around the video.
Again, because it's an association.
Just the way that...
Because that's his boss now.
Yeah, because the way it has the image, it seemed like he was...
All right.
It's, we'll get there.
And I know we covered it before.
She said it was okay that he would brag about being her boss, but then all the other stuff.
But again, she shouldn't have said.
I posted part of the email exchange on Twitter again.
And that blew up, I guess.
DA games released a statement due to public pressure.
We are aware.
of the accusations that has been made against Chris.
At this time, Chris is on indefinitely from DA Games as he releases his statement and works on himself.
This action Chris has accused of preceded his employment at DA Games.
When we were made aware of this, Chris did take accountability and we reprimand and retain per
UK business protocol law of protocol slash law.
And at this time, neither us nor Chris find it healthy to have him involved in DA Games world,
despite said retraining and reprimanding.
I will also...
She won.
But I will also kind of just highlight...
She may have also gotten this information if she talked to them.
Again, I don't agree with it either.
I think him being fired is completely fine.
But it's very interesting.
Sure.
If not, then they would have released their statement a year ago when this email exchange took place.
Chris is going away.
on work training.
Um, can I have proof of that, please?
Because you've already been pretty untruthful to me.
I think you guys are just trying to wait until this all dies down and everyone forgets.
And then Chris will just magically appear.
Okay.
What is this?
Apparently he came back.
Like, she's just going from TV show to TV show.
Oh, we'll get there.
Quirk Chunggis, everybody.
Again, if Chris wants...
If they want to rehire Chris, what the fuck do we do?
I mean...
They literally did everything.
They're saying they did what they did by UK law.
Remember?
This?
Do you don't remember what hyped up this?
I didn't show it on screen.
But what hyped this...
I'll show it now.
Because I do think it's important now that we're here.
What hyped this video
was allegation.
of sexual assault.
Remember,
this was hyped.
This is what preceded this video.
So we already knew that there was an act that these accusations were around.
This preceded the video.
Where is Sabres Spark?
Where is he?
Where?
Chris's statement also came out, which is really respectful,
calling me and employees.
Oh, by the way, I was being sarcastic.
And then trying to make himself the victim.
Chris, if you felt mistreated, this is the first I'm ever hearing about it.
So politely talk.
All right, let's go back to this for a second.
It came to my attention to a former acquaintance and employer has made some allegations about me that I have to clear up, and I don't want to...
Indirectly incentivize harassment.
We'll refer to them as blue when appropriate.
I was not going to acknowledge this, but since people who I care about are being dragged into this situation,
I feel it best to make a statement.
First of all, I once again apologize.
to them for what I said in confidence in the past.
I, uh, the joke I told was immature, appalling, and not reflective of who I am today.
It was conjured up out of spite and anger for someone who mistreated myself and many close friends
in the past and was not only, it was meant only as, quote, locker room joke for those who were upset
and burned by blue.
It was inexcusable and I'm sorry.
The tasteless joke goes like this.
Uh, quote, uh,
this is the content warning. I don't... Quote, he, because I'm not saying I,
he was in a hotel bathroom sitting on the toilet, pleasuring himself.
When in the middle of ejaculating, he lost his balance and fell landing face first on a pair of underwear,
which belonged to Blue.
The joke is not based in reality. It never actually occurred, and Blue was told this when they asked
about its validity.
Although the intention of the joke was to make more at an expense,
at my expense instead of theirs, it hurt and disgusted them and told, when told to them
long after I had stopped telling the joke many years ago.
How it affected them more, how it affected them is more important, not my intentions.
I had not been working for Blue when this poor excuse for a joke was created.
He was not in her employ when he said the joke.
important to note, I don't like defending it, but it's also important that he is saying in the locker
room shit as frustration, which also sucks.
Uh, nor was I telling it well into my employment with other individuals.
So for them to be accosted at all is not right. This is a matter between Blue and myself and should remain
this way. I have received reprimands and retrading accordingly by my employers. I do not want to have the
people who gave me employment long after I had grown past this stage of my life to be facing
ire for my own personal actions and insist that I release my statement on my own instead of dragging
them further into my actions. This is my fault, not theirs. And if anything, I will ask them both
for the forgiveness for bringing them and my coworkers from both companies into this situation.
I have spoken to blue in years and I'm not currently speaking to them now. But when
they messaged me on Discord asking to talk about the joke, that I had told them years after
I had stopped telling it, roughly eight years, I believe. I was shocked to hear it repeated back
to them, back to me from them, and profusely apologized. Rightfully, they were upset, but Blue has told me that
they wished to discuss the matter in private call, to which I agreed. This call, where I took
full responsibility for my past behavior and expressed my sincere regret, was recorded with
without my consent.
Anyone realizing a pattern that this person's from the UK?
I'm pretty sure the UK has a big time laws about recording.
It didn't sound like he.
I didn't hear no accent.
Maybe.
That's true. I don't know.
Maybe there wasn't.
But he works in the UK.
Or his boss is in the UK.
Sabres are British?
No.
Chris isn't from the UK.
What I'm saying is that his job was in the UK.
If he lived in the UK.
The UK at the time, who knows?
I don't know this.
I'm just saying a lot of UK stuff being thrown around.
We'll get to a UK point in later.
The only silver lining is the recording.
Is this thing?
Is you can hear my apology in our agreement.
Do not contact each other after that.
So again,
what we're highlighting is that she accepted his apology privately.
and then continued to go on a campaign to get him fired.
Which is really respectful.
I'm calling me an employer.
How'd you do that?
I accidentally clicked it.
But again.
Yeah, she should just release the call.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way, I was being sarcastic.
And then trying to make himself the victim.
Chris, if you felt mistreated, this is the first I'm ever hearing about it.
So politely talk to me directly.
But I think something really interesting when we talk about disgruntled employees...
is looking at the history of KP and disgruntled employees.
So I have a couple different videos real quick about it.
Uh, which is the one?
Uh, the KP controversy.
The Anon Leaks explained.
I don't know who this YouTuber is, but we have stuff for it.
Come on.
You can do a computer.
This is an unlisted video.
going into things.
So pretty much all of my experiences with K.P.
were kind of fresh.
And she approached me with the John Delancey project.
And I thought that it had good intentions.
Because she was trying to cut out from the angle.
Side note. Side note.
side note. Side note.
I need all of you brony people to stop using ponies.
Yeah, move on to anything else.
I know this video is eight years old.
God, I need to.
fucking. Yeah, I'd say years old, dude.
Like.
So these are, this is Bogsy,
from what I understand. These are people
that worked with KP at the time.
By the way, for those who don't know,
she has constantly recorded conversations
without consent.
She has a bit off the reputation with that.
Yeah. I'm losing.
Yes.
So these are people talking about the
non-KP leaks
because, yeah, these are two
KP volunteers, not Bogsy. I apologize.
Thank you, thank you.
This video explains the roles that Bogsy, Sean, and I played behind the scenes at non-KP leaks.
So it seems that very interestingly so, KP has had issues with it.
Again, we do not agree with what Chris said and or has done, but it's very important to
remember that.
That according to him and according to the call, he profusely apologizes, and she feels that it's not enough.
There's a whole bunch of stuff.
The documentary got pirated, and she wanted to make up for that because she saw how
John Delancey was reacting to the fandom at the time, and I sympathized with that and thought that
was a kind gesture to make.
And I thought it was going to be like this small little project, but the more time went on,
the more I realized, oh, this is bigger than I thought it was going to be,
and honestly bigger than it probably should be.
And because of that, I kind of grew to resent the project and to an extent grew to resent her.
A lot of the time, I felt like I was doing all the work because I took on multiple roles when I was working for Team KP.
I was an animator, editor, audio mixer, graphic designer.
I did a lot of stuff when I was working for Team KP.
And I felt like I was doing most of it, and I wasn't appreciated for it.
So again, there is a history.
of things regarding disgruntled employees.
Again, doesn't defend what Chris said.
But if you had, it'd be crazy if you continue to make videos and go after people in this, in this space.
She's a victim in this situation.
And if she doesn't want to forgive him, that's her right question mark.
No apology can really make up for that.
That's weird.
Listen, she cannot forgive him.
That's a hundred.
percent correct, but people can, people can move on from it.
I hate to say that, but he's, he's not entitled to non-employment.
Because she's saying that she does not accept his retraining.
Yes, but she also can't say that an apology wasn't made.
That too.
She cannot say that he does not deserve employment.
I've said this. I said this before, too. The Mama Mac stuff, I don't think people should
have went after him working with kids. I really didn't either. Now, I know it's not the same level of
allegations, but the problem is that you cannot constantly do life ruination to people
over specific things. And again, this was a crime. If she wants Chris to pay for it, sue him.
straight up go to court, go to civil court.
I'm sorry. I'm not saying that anybody. I don't want to do the lawsuit stuff. I don't like seeing it.
I don't recommend it. I don't like it. But I don't know what more this guy can do.
If he's apologized to her and she doesn't like it, what the fuck is he supposed to do?
And again, these are Sabrespark allegations.
Where is it?
I always have something new to give to me. And I just felt like there was no end to it.
Again, there is allegations. I won't play this whole thing. We have it. You can grab it for yourself.
But like, there are allegations that she hasn't been the kindest boss behind the scenes either.
Should she also, she's very illicit, Valje is a very religious person. No, I'm not. Again, I'm not saying anything.
I think KP is within her right to make a video regarding how she feels wronged by him.
not what I'm saying.
What I'm focused on is the fact that this is petty.
This is personal beef.
I wouldn't even say petty beef.
This is personal beef and personal wrongs tied into claiming a large YouTuber raped someone.
There's levels.
Let's get back into this video because we're only 12 minutes in.
Or shut the fuck up.
You need to shut the fuck up.
I know we have this dude broke culture around YouTube entrepreneurs who have never been to business school before and don't know about good company ethics.
As far as Chris, I would hope he gets an official investigation into his character.
I don't know, KP. It sounds like your history. You don't have good company ethics either.
Yeah, it doesn't seem like you know either.
Hold on. Let this play a little bit longer. Hold on.
Okay.
For both parties. And as a lead with the Billy Bush example, possibly terminated. I don't know.
Wait, hold on. Okay, hold on. She wants an official investigation.
into Chris's character from both parties. Who are the parties? Who is the official investigator?
How do you investigate somebody's character for what? A third party? Who's going to pay for that?
Yeah. Are you the one of the parties? Are you going to pay for it? Who's going to be the non-biased person that's going to be handling it?
Yeah. Good company ethics from the woman who holds free editors to an NDA contract most professionals wouldn't use.
So I, I, Siree, if you have evidence of those statements, I'd love to grab the
those? Because I don't know if we had those specifically. We have other allegations that she's talked about or that have been
levied her way. But again, I want to highlight this. I'll send, I'll send you the contract.
Fuck me. This is going to be a long fucking stream.
I hate that. I hate this. No, you don't. You love it. Chat. Is this going to be longer?
tracks. Fucking share this with your friends, Chad, I guess. Is this going to be better or longer or longer or shorter than Mama Max?
No, it's going to be longer. Longer. Falsi, you really need to be investigated for seeing the N-Ward 10 years ago and potentially fired over it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I heard that too recently. Somebody in Chess. Somebody named Axis said I heard it recently. I said the N-WR-What? I've never.
Okay. Yeah, prove it. Prove 10 years ago.
Take me back in time.
personally changed or what his character is now or are there any other victims out there?
Also, time out. They did do an investigation. You're not happy with the outcome of the investigation.
You're not happy with it. That they accepted their investigation and moved on. You're not happy with it.
You would have been crazy if you had the investigation documentation and you were able to highlight how they fucked up with it.
Prove you've changed, Valji, Axis. You're my friend. I've changed.
Fowl, do you need to be investigated for spoiling persona 3?
You know what? That's fair. That's fair.
But do you really want this kind of guy to be representing your company?
To work in the media industry is a privilege why protect sexual harassers?
Even if it's just a dumb internet job.
And I know, this all sucks. Hearing this is probably going to suck.
Working on this video has sucked. Real bad. I've cried a lot.
But it seems like that myers are in threat of being preyed on.
Will himself has done some suspicious behavior.
And it seems like nothing's going to change unless it's talked about in a bigger way.
I'm as bad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore.
Also, also, I want to note that is a fucking insult to that movie and that scene.
I'm tired, chat.
Yeah.
To use that particular scene.
Oh.
You need to cut down in these cutaway gags.
You're not doing yourself any justice.
You made this probably 20 times longer.
There was allegedly like six months of investigation, apparently.
From her?
So that's why we're here.
Yep.
Part zero, disproving KP rep.
We're at part zero.
We're not even, we're not even.
We're not even.
We're not even in part one.
How do you have two primers?
...qualify to do this.
Or have false information about things that have happened in the past they are using to make a judgment on this case.
And that's concerning.
So let's go ahead and disprove some KP as bad stuff.
How do you have the truth?
For example, when this was trending on Reddit, I got comments like this.
And if that's still not enough for you, listen to this.
And another aspect that I didn't really take it to account until rather read...
it'd be crazy.
How does she frame this?
Brandon, I'm not going to get one guide for a second,
but I do want to just address it.
We all agree that Chris is not cool for sharing those jokes.
It's actually deplorable.
But at a certain point,
I don't...
Do you believe he has a kid?
Should his kid...
Should his kid starve?
They investigated him.
Should his child starve?
Should he lose his job in animation?
And what?
Get a job at McDonald?
Like, at a certain point, like, what the fuck are we going to do?
The fries in the bag.
Like, how are we going to do this?
Recently.
Is it on top of all the work that the...
We can't...
Like, everyone sucks at this.
situation? I don't disagree with you.
We agree. I'm telling you, we agree.
The problem is, where are we going with it?
Team members are having to do?
There's something to be said for all the work that goes into managing those team members.
I can't imagine it must be an easy job.
Sai, you...
Oh, God, Sai, why?
Rated Italian man.
No, is it a Twitter NDA where you have to sign your name?
No, it's a full-ass fucking contract.
Oh, boy.
Oh, we'll read this later.
Because you have to make sure that everyone is on the same page with everything, all the time.
Everyone's keeping up to date with progress and is generally handing things in on time,
all while trying to keep them happy and make them feel like they're in a positive working environment.
And at that point, I said, look, I'm sorry I couldn't finish it, but I need to get back to my other work.
And K.P, she let me go.
She didn't force me to stay. She didn't say, oh, you have to keep working for me.
She said, okay, you can go. Maybe I'll contact you again later when you're not busy.
I started a channel to spread her opinions, and Bill,
a team around her. I've seen her make mistakes, take them to heart, and return improved.
She is a leader, so she must lead in the way she knows.
Huh.
Weird. Greg, didn't we have somebody before
who was financially incentivized to make sure the person being accused had a good job
and still was able to pay them?
Was it? Was it Pagso in the Mama Max video?
video? Uh, prox is risky.
Prox is frixie. That's right. It's almost like the people who have a, because at the same time,
you can't levy the same criticisms towards Saber Spark, because I'm not, we're not going to touch
D.A. Games. The A. Games is going to get brought up. There's a whole, again, we're going to have
a tire stream on them. You can't levy the same things that around Saber Spark than you are about
KP.
it's like this is just about
Hi, yeah, yeah, y'ay.
Again, I don't hate KP.
I don't think they're necessarily an evil person.
It's like they're dumb.
I think they're just a little kind of fucking, like, petty about...
They're petty about certain things.
Not about whatever comments Chris made.
I don't think that's necessarily petty.
I want to be very clear.
I don't think they're petty about that.
But this stuff reads Petty.
No, but she's always ready to listen to help, and when she is unsure, see could voice herself.
In the wake of all of this, I had the privilege of meeting some of Team KP, to which my initial reaction was...
She still has a staff?
And it's true, a bunch of real sweethearts.
Who, in defiance of Twitter, reason, common sense, and...
Probably human resource statutes.
Actually, still love. I love Kim Possible a lot.
A lot.
Take my word for it. They were just as nonplust about all this leaks business as anyone.
Actually, no, don't take my word for it.
Why don't go check out their page?
Get it from the various horse's mouths yourself.
Darling people.
A whole non-KP leak situation is as follows.
I do not regret making it because at the time, I truly believed I was doing something for the better good.
Michael, this is illegal.
What you really think, no.
Why aren't you playing these videos in full?
Yeah, they're super loud.
Bad audio mixing.
She had time to make this video, and she didn't care enough to go back over it.
I guess never underestimate the power of too long.
didn't read. Did I get paid now, Rachel?
For those playing at home, the TLDR is that this is utter nonsense, especially this bit.
But, K.P, what about this?
She was exposed as a manipulator and a user.
Uh...
Somehow, she managed to get an entire team of people to get to work on her projects.
Only, they didn't get any compensation for it.
God forbid, people have hobbies. I guess every reanimated is just an anti-capitalism abomination. Disgust...
Ugh.
Don't... don't...
Yeah.
Remember when I said that this was...
This exposed was years in the making?
It'd be really weird if this video is 90% hurt griefs with other people.
No, it couldn't be. No, it's crazy.
Again.
I don't hate her.
I want to make it very clear.
I think the DA game stuff that will go over is incredibly disgusting.
It's why we're dedicating a whole fucking stream to it.
But what the fuck is happening?
Where is Saberspark?
Again, she has this video.
This is...
He's Sabers Spark in the room with us.
It's Saberspark in the room with us.
Is Saberspark Omni Man?
Where is Saberspark?
Oh, though, pulled up.
Oh, that.
We didn't say anything.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I want to figure something out.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
My bad. I had to answer something.
It's the length here.
I remember watching a video that she posted on YouTube a couple of years back.
It was a long drawn-up video about how.
about how she was almost canceled from the community and how she was a victim of stalking and her struggles with PTSD.
Which she brings up like every time she gets the opportunity. Like, what?
Shaming trauma victim probably wasn't your best move, my guy. I'm just saying.
She probably thought that because the fandom had died a bit.
That's a very disingenuous voice to use from the reading fucking text.
Yes, it is. Okay. Okay.
Like, reminder, most times when you make fucking videos about your personal beef and drama, it's going to be fucking cringe.
and lame. Again. And it's probably going to fall flat on its face because you can't be objective on actually if it's good or not.
Again, I want to make it very clear when the end, when they're talking about her and not paying her, she's like, oh, God forbid people have hobbies.
You have an animation studio now. Are people not entitled to be paid for their work? I pay all of our artists.
who give us official work.
I would never consider getting this shit for free.
You fucking...
Why does this matter in your claims about people being pedophiles, zoophiles, rapists,
sexual assaulters, making claims about fucking coming on your underwear?
Why is this here?
Again, this is not a truncated version of this.
Why is this purposefully annoying voice less annoying than KP's regular speaking voice?
Yeah, exactly.
A little smugness affiliated with it, I think. That's why.
Yeah.
Eddie would go on the attack.
She also had, like, a Twitter meltdown when she had to pay, like, for her own way, into Brennicon.
I think, I can't remember which convention.
Because I didn't bother.
their fact-checking. Whereas other members of a Bernalus committee, like silver crowns got in for free.
Oh my god, Guy Raz for the two. Thank you. Thank you. No, no, Falji. Be like madam, pay an exposure. I should. You're right, you're right. We should pay you guys an exposure next time. All our artists paid an exposure forever.
I can't even say that out loud. Oh, how much of a tight net group.
No, no, I just about that. Of course I'm not paying them with fucking a shit.
Sh exposure. I literally went on a fucking tirade.
Love intolerance, like pace. That's not what happened.
I was frustrated that BronyCon changed their minds about my guest spot based on false information.
And they were informed it was false information from another convention head. It's very victim play me. More details here.
Which probably. Why aren't you featuring that in this video then if you're saying all the details are in that video?
Explains why people don't see her much after that with other committee members.
All in all, KVee strikes me as just another individual. Proof. It's. It's. It's.
It's in a different video you should watch.
Hey, this video is two hours.
Watch a 59-minute video.
Who constantly acts like a spoiled child who acts out when they can't be what they want.
This guy obviously doesn't know me because it's not really my character.
These types of individuals.
How do we know that?
That's personal an antidote from you.
What is happening?
Believe that everything should be like handed to them with little or no effort,
simply because they're recognized in a group or community.
I know it's not like I'm saying like, hashtag,
the witch, but my actual point is,
she's just another example of what happens
when you let internet, or in this case,
horse fame, go to your head.
Horse? Is that what they call it?
It's all proletes!
Okay, you know, Kieldoj.
Bosch? Vosh? Bosm?
Kieldoe told me, like, she used to have, like, a
her persona was a pony.
Yes, it's that blue pony. And it was specifically
one of the MLP characters
that had like a, I can fix them with
Discord from my little
pony? I don't know what discord is.
He's like an evil
being from My Little Pony.
Oh, yes.
I unfortunately, unwittingly
know what Discord is now. I don't.
I don't know what that is. You know what? You know what?
I'm fine.
It's like a magic being.
I did not watch My Little Pony. I only know
a little bit just because my niece watched it.
Chat as an aside.
They have words for literally everything, apparently.
Chat as a literal aside, they're
190 of you and only 49 likes.
Let's get that to 69.
Oh, wait, for real, he's voiced by John DeLant.
Wait. Yeah, he's voiced by Jen Lancy.
Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah.
Why would we work so hard on number of horse?
She apparently should have interview with John Delancey,
and she made like three different videos on it or something.
It's crazy.
Her O.C is a Flutter Shy recolor discord.
Is a literal chaos dragon who Flutter Shy has an,
I can fix him relationship with.
No, there, there's,
That's, isn't that, they're ponies, there's not dragons in this show.
No, isn't that the, but isn't that the, uh, watchma, who's it?
It's her medallion, right?
She has a Chris Chan medallion.
What is that?
Oh my gosh.
She has a dragon friend.
Are you in the room with us?
God, Mr. Handsbell.
Shout out.
Shut out to say.
Lettershi does not canonically date him, though.
I don't care.
There's so much more.
Videos if they weren't fun.
But it's her fan pick OC.
I definitely only made for attention.
More details here.
Make me your horse guy.
Why?
Why is there more videos?
Oh, Tuske posted.
I know this.
I am your god now.
Bring me your virgins.
This is a confrontation between someone who was supposed to be helping team,
but was actively leaking assets to the team and lying about it.
And then they were caught.
You can guess how this confrontation goes.
But ladies and gentlemen, the day is aimed minded.
Come back.
Thank you.
It's a pretty soft-spoken guy.
So this is the maddest I've ever seen him.
Oh, yes.
You know, guys, that would be crazy.
If we saw one of the people,
that works for her?
Yell at a random person, we don't know.
Oh?
Wait for it.
Do you mind if we take it from here, me and...
Yeah.
What does this matter?
What the messages were?
Were a betrayal to the team that you claim to represent.
I would say less so a betrayal to Rachel.
Still a betrayal, though.
But quite frankly, I'm insulted by what you chose to do.
I, you sat there.
You claimed to be representing the team.
You claimed to be wanting to improve the team.
Who are these people?
You're representing the team.
Who are you?
Why are you showing proof that this person leaked information?
What is going on?
Where is Sabersport?
What is David Bowie here?
Yeah, again, you're sicking one of your simps on a guy.
Woozy!
Who are you?
Okay.
Now, I'm fucking lost for words.
And the fact that I...
You and me both.
Like, how did you think you were helping?
How?
What the fuck have you got to say to yourself?
And then even now, I gave me the chance to come clean and say, is there anything you want to say?
I know.
And you didn't say anything.
And you were denying it until I said, I have Axis.
I see everything.
Axis.
Axis. What did you do?
Axis.
Exis.
Cic was good.
Pull the report.
But there's absolutely no fucking denying that fact.
Listen, we would get drunk if every glove shito was mentioned in this.
Not even by the end of it.
Halfway through at the very least.
There was no denying that.
It's my problem.
You claim that you were doing this for us.
And yet, you sat there.
KP.
is like the female jar.
Shut up.
I was going to lead to that, you fuck.
No!
I said it first.
She is, she is female jar.
Discord is a draconicus,
which is a made up term for like a weird horse dragon,
Kymeiric.
Likely because nobody on the show was Chinese or Japanese enough to know what a quillore is.
Oh my God.
Oh, true white lady mentality.
They're the two sides of the same coin.
Yeah, this is ACC shit dogpiling.
I can't believe you leaked information.
There and lie to us. You lie to me?
You lie to every single person in that group.
Who the fuck is this? Nobody knows.
Oh my God, everybody. We've hit the goal.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
Kyras with the five.
Thank you, dude.
The jarret.
is real.
100-11 year.
Jar made a video on the Cinder drama.
Oh my God.
This would be.
Oh, my God.
I had to watch like the Jarviy on Cinder on Cinder.
And he fucking makes a plantation joke.
Oh, yeah, because he sucks.
In the middle of the video.
But it's time to feed that dog.
It's time to feed the proper.
It's time to give her treats.
It's time to feed that dog now.
now. On the Upluck stream tonight.
Let's go, chat.
Good girl. Good girl, Leah.
Everybody, you want another goal.
Also, fucking YouTube is so dog shit.
My, like, YouTube trip is crashed on Chrome like three times already.
I need to go to Firefox.
I'm losing my mind.
I will increase the goal a little bit, which are all good.
Yes, that's my pucker.
She's.
Leia is our mascot of the channel.
Yes, girl.
She is really the mascot of this channel.
We sat there and we said, can we trust everyone in this group?
And you sat there and said yes.
You betrayed the team.
Okay, you betrayed fucking me personally.
I'm taking that person.
Who are you?
Who are?
But this is Zade.
Guys, don't you understand?
This is Zade.
The magical.
Zaid leader of the team.
Isn't this a civil issue if somebody's leaking your NDAID content?
Weird. Do they say every pony?
Jane is about to upload that video. And what did you hope to achieve? It happened that I was preparing that video and that's when I told you, by the way, we're putting it back up.
We made that decision weeks ago. We made that decision when we posted it in the radio play chat.
When people were said, explain that we're not happy. We said, yes, we have a video ready. We'll upload it in a few weeks. That's why that.
that video was going. But why were people not happy? Why are you not explaining? Were people happy because it got outed? Were people not happy because they were upset with the way you guys maybe treat your employees? They're not explaining it because this is a call between three people. This wasn't supposed to be shared with however many fucking people. I've seen this now.
Going up. Did you ask me? No. Did you think that maybe, maybe a bit more, something better could come out of this if you fucking talk to us. Okay, nothing. Good.
came out of that group. Nothing group.
That Twitter. Nothing.
You know what? Good came out of this? The Skype group.
The group of people that sat down like grown men and fucking wrote down their complaints.
Like grown men who talk about ponies and have fascination about ponies.
And maybe want to fuck the ponies from time to time.
Grown men on Twitter.
Why aren't you all using your pony avatars? Yeah, Greg. Yeah, Q. Also, why aren't you all using your pony avatars?
I don't have one. I just want to go back to my guy. Just reach out the
beetlepids to get your pony avatar from the thing of a booper.
We have the Christmas art.
We're already two hours in.
All right?
Oh my god.
I missed my kitty.
Nothing good from that guy.
Yay.
Do you want to know what everybody else on the team?
The only two people that said anything bad to those to the end on Twitter are the two people in that group not on the current team.
Do you know what everybody else is said to that Twitter?
They fucking said, fuck off because you're not helping. You are literally here to be malicious. You're here to tease,
Please, Rachel. You are here?
Okay, so I have something interesting that I got sent.
The Apple Jack principle, this is a common mistake with new people, and it should be addressed.
Many times people accept too much work, overwhelm themselves, get frustrated due to this deadline stress, and quit.
To avoid this, please take these next words with caution.
They include MLP every pony talk in their clauses and their contract.
This is stuff directly from the contract.
That can't be legally binding.
Kill, listen, you know who's on the job.
Panelist opportunities. If you wish to be a panelist at a reviewing with I Love Kim Possible Al-A-Lot panel, you must meet the following requirements.
Must be comfortable speaking in front of a crowd of at least 50 people. Working on a team for at least six months and or in a leadership position.
Must have worked on at least four projects.
Note only one complete long project for animators, four to six months duration, and a combination of smaller projects.
Guaranteed attendance to the convention where the panel is pitched regardless of panel position.
Approval from KP.
Must meet the minimum age panelist restrictions for panelists varies by convention.
I wonder if that's foreshadowing for something.
I'm sure I can speak for every pony when I say we do not care about.
care about this call.
Thank you.
I wonder if the average age of a panelist comes up later.
Here to Nagata. There is no defending it.
That Twitter is universally accepted not to have been a good...
Bro, she's not going to fuck you. Stop screaming.
Oh.
You know what? I'm going to hell for that one. I'm going to hell for that one. I'm so sorry.
Oh, God. It is actually... This is XR.R.
after all.
See, the entire team while you were in that group was saying that these guys are dicks.
Nobody on their team supported them.
And yet, here you are claiming to represent the team and supporting them.
And lying to the rest of the team while you do it.
Part one, the original incident with...
There we go.
We did it.
We started the video.
The original incident with Chris.
What do you mean?
The original incident with Chris?
You were ready to brought it up.
We've already been through Chris.
It's only 23 minutes.
Part one. Let's go.
We did Chris, but we did Billy Bush and Michael Vick.
Let's go.
With Chris.
Something I also wasn't aware of is that Will made a statement after this team of her bonds.
That was literally the prelude.
That was literally the prelude we had suffered through.
And now we're going to talk about Will and DA games, everybody.
You know, the one who was harassing me was fired.
It doesn't mention me or that there was any victim or even...
Harassing her.
Again, this is.
her perspective on it because there were people coming out regarding some of her poor behavior behind the scenes.
What he did was bad. We'll even cause him a great person. So starting off on a real high note there.
So remember. Oh my God. I can't believe they like Chris so much. Did he know about this joke yet? I don't know.
He is no longer a member of DA games. He's still a very good friend of ours.
Like, especially me, like I will sometimes DMM will be on Twitter, the big tweeter sometimes, but I'm not one for grudges.
I don't do that. So don't think this was out of the bad, massive.
Yeah, he's letting the audience know that it was a, wasn't a fucking fight between the two.
Again, we'll get into Will. I'll tell you right now. I don't like this fucking guy. This guy pisses me off.
But we'll get there. I don't like this guy. I don't like this fucking guy. You're not going to see.
me defending him. This is all still in relation to Chris. I want to make that very fucking clear.
We are 24 minutes in. No Saberspark mention.
Hey, just a lot of back-end stuff that kind of conflicted with our channel. There's a lot of
things that didn't meet our requirements. Who is Boggs? Who nobody cares about Boggs?
videos started getting worse and worse, but it was more or less just, I was pressuring him a lot.
There's a lot of things he had to do and there just wasn't enough taking time except for the situation
that we were going through. Come to mention it, there was a lot of like things that maybe would have
detrimented us in a long run if we would have kept this sort of conversation.
going and I don't want to bring in logistics because that's not a...
Oh. Yeah. It's all just use a drama in the end. I hate it.
Shun Khrushu, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. But you're absolutely correct.
thing that should... I don't want you hating the dude because he is a fantastic being. He just did a lot
wrong things and we're all learning from the meeting every...
Yeah. Why does he have his hello neighbor instrumental in the background? You know why.
This guy... D.A. Games made music.
So I don't think there was any mistreatment or I can't really explain why Chris would be so
frustrated enough to do this. So I brought my...
Chris, was it?
You... You started making this public. You can say you're allowed... You're allowed to put... Oh, my God. You can say you're allowed to put...
Hey, like a Lord X. Thank you for subscribe.
Like you. You can come out and say whatever you need to whenever something comes out that's about you. But he's not allowed to come out and say things when things are being said about him.
He is literally saying.
he thought you to squash the beef and he didn't know that you were going around trying to get him fired.
He didn't know. So when he has to address it, he's not frustrated. He's literally apologizing to you again. Like, I don't like to... I don't want to defend Chris.
I don't fucking care about Chris. Nobody cares about Chris. But what does this mean? All the evidence that we have shown and all the stuff that we look back on shows that there were other people who didn't like.
you, but Chris is the only one that you can actually levy any allegations against.
It feels that if any other person had any other potential allegations, you would have no problem
fucking trying to get them fired again.
And that's part of the problem.
My friend James, who was on the team at the same time as Chris to give some testimony.
Hi, I'm James. I used to work for Kipi, and I was the head editor of her first team. I worked for her for her for about two to three years. And I was asked to give a
statement on Chris's work ethic on a team. Chris, in particular, was an extremely good editor, usually doing stuff the rest of the team couldn't do. But he was inconsistent with time. I'm coming out about Chris because in his recent statement, Chris claimed mistreatment by being a latine. But as someone was there, it just seemed like he had unhealthy and alternative motivations. It was clearly he would often say more than he could deliver. Do you think maybe he's... What is that? That means nothing.
Get other than money? Your only motivation needs to be money. Take your work done.
That also means nothing.
Why is this tied to pedophilia? Zophilia?
Where's Saberspark?
Where's Saber Spark?
Omni Man!
Again, this video is bad.
Doesn't make anything that people said about K.P. If false, completely okay. But where?
He's compensating for something.
In particular, though, he often said more unsavory things. Either just jokes to be funny or what usually felt more personal.
This was never a paying day.
So it seemed that he was upset that it wasn't helping his career, money, or even romantic situation.
It usually felt like he would push himself to be...
This was a volunteer position?
Yeah. They all did this as a hobby.
Yeah, he could complain.
What?
Like, you never...
Then you never worked for...
Yeah.
Then you're not as employer.
Then you don't have employees.
If they're volunteering, they're not your employees.
Romantic situation.
Oh! What is...
What are you saying?
Really good, and then fell flat.
Like he had all three of your motives and scoffed other editors for their work to make himself look better.
Really honing in.
He was awfully...
Yeah. Oh, God. God. God forbid, the really good editor is saying I can do better than them.
God for...
Like, again, what is this happening?
It's a competitive...
It's a competitive field.
Editing.
Ash...
Ash would know better than me.
But, like, editing is a very...
Very competitive field.
You guys are our editors.
I don't do much.
But...
You do.
Not really.
Diesel talks about it, too.
If you're good, if you can, like, shoot your shit, like, you can...
You can make decent amounts of money if you can, you know, if you know what you're doing.
But, like...
Part of that competitive nature, depending on who you are, can be being braggadocious about it,
being cocky about it.
Whatever you want to say.
Like, is it cool to do that in front of other people?
Probably not.
But it's not illegal either.
to be a dick if you're good at editing.
Why is the title card above the law?
Excited on if KP liked to reproof his work.
Bragging, which again was inconsistent.
In my opinion, he also seemed to have a crush on KP.
It seemed to all...
I don't care.
I just don't care. I just don't care.
How are you sure?
How?
Are you sure?
This is as much.
much hearsay as... Do you have evidence? This is as much hearsay. I don't get this.
Obviously to me if you know what I'm about that. Sometimes he antagonized another team member to get her attention
and also downplayed it when talking with others. It was odd that he would feel unappreciated when he was
acting out of his own will to help.
Can we skip to the allegations? No. Because there's more. If we skip to the allegations, you watch
30 minutes of the video.
No.
We joining the team, he still committed to projects.
When everybody left, it would be a lot of us.
She doesn't pay us because she's too greedy, specifically saying...
Yeah. If you're...
If you're...
She's just not paying you.
The fact that you're willfully
ignorant about the pay structure
and plight of your fellow worker,
you were a fucking idiot.
That's so tremendous.
He was complaining about being paid,
but this was hobby.
But then he complains about not being paid
because she's getting all the accolades.
I wonder why.
Could it be that she's popping off
while not paying anybody?
Oh, my class traitor!
No!
Oh, God. Metapomate, this, this fucking video is, it's going to break you.
There's a lot of background shit for it, too.
That I have to still go into.
Thank you to everybody who's here, by the way.
Straight up, to all, to all our lurkers.
Yeah. People who are first new to the channel.
Shout out the lurkers. Shout out like everybody who's in here right now.
The Vod Watchers, when you see this part, you guys are the best.
Metapole my wife.
Because she doesn't explain any of it.
Another, she's cheap, or she's the only one benefiting from this.
But the reality is, no one never got paid.
Often in private conversations, it would come up,
but he wouldn't be shy about bringing it up during group conversations.
And this is if he attended any meetings at all.
We were a little intimidated by his status to bring this up to KP at the time, though.
Chris ultimately left the team with almost no word.
His work ethic broke dramatically over the months we were all there.
Overall, his experience was wanted, helpful, but inconsistent.
What is this?
mean. He could still feel, he could still feel like he's being exploited at the workplace.
If you're not getting paid for work, you're being exploited.
Yeah. Straight up, though, if you're not getting paid or at least compensated in some way,
yeah. You do realize it's worse, right? Here's part 1.5. Escalation to be unsafe with minors.
Fuck you. Who wrote this? God, just make it parts. Just make them. Don't 1.5, 1A.1A.1A.
1B.
Fuck off.
If this video was just about Chris making it a gross story about me a while ago.
It should have been.
I want to just say that it, like, that way it looks like, oh, Chris was unsafe with the miners.
No.
No, it wasn't.
Why bring this up now?
But things end up extending to more actions that are.
No, no.
You were always planning to bring this up.
Do not lie.
Do not lie right now.
You were always planning on bringing this up.
Do not lie.
Your plan was always to burn Chris on the fire.
You just didn't have enough fucking stand on principle.
You didn't have enough information on everybody else you were going to throw under the fucking business.
Yes, we are now going to talk about DA games.
I want to fucking highlight that what she's going to highlight on about DA games, there is a fucking Google.com.
We will be covering it on stream.
I am not here to defend anybody from DA games.
What to highlight that.
Yes.
Just so the chat and really me are aware, what is DA Games?
She will explain it, but DA Games is.
Dragon Age Games.
DA Games is a channel.
I would believe you, Greg.
DA Games, like many other people from the Bronyish fandom and other things,
is made music, like fan music.
Like fan music.
for their specific fandom enjoyment.
And, like, this is just everything.
And now we're getting into who DA Games is.
All right.
You're questionable.
It may seem like these people can't really be trusted around children.
We have a testimony of a mind.
But what does that have to do with Chris?
What the hell?
Is what I'm saying?
You're just going to sneak in the fucking pedo shit?
Oh, yeah.
Now we sneak this peto shit in.
Because what she's trying to do is,
create raising escalation?
But it doesn't work.
Like, this is again, like, I think what she's bringing up is very valid.
But, like, the escalation is weird.
So allegedly Chris made uncomfortable by mental.
So allegedly Chris made a minor uncomfortable.
Do we have proof of that?
Beastiality, too.
Here's that story.
She shows him to be left anonymous for obvious reasons, but more about that in the interview.
That's making me uncomfortable.
I was in a voice chat with Chris, Will, and one other person who I cannot remember.
They were another fan, so it isn't very relevant as to who they were.
I was 14 at the time.
I do not remember how the conversation got to this point.
But at one point, Chris made a joke about me being into beastiality,
specifically using the term beastiality, which I didn't understand at the time.
I simply responded being confused about the joke, and Chris seemed to find that funny.
My camera was on.
They were using a third-party tool to have cameras with voice chats at the time.
And I have...
You mean Discord?
Okay, I hate that the fact that all of these people,
have children in their discords.
I need to make this very clear.
Fuck all of these people for having
children in their discords.
I don't like it.
And I will call you out for it.
I don't understand.
He allegedly said BCL.
Did he go into it?
Like, I don't know.
Like, this is somebody's testimony.
Did he just say the word?
Yeah.
I'm not defending this.
You shouldn't say this in front of kids at all.
Like, at all.
But you also shouldn't be in a situation where you,
be in a call with kids.
Yes.
I had met Will sometime before to voice chat in person.
They had to have known I was underage.
This by itself is not that awful, simply weird.
But together with everything else that has happened and what these people have done,
I think it's important to share as it shows a pattern of people in and around DA games
creating an unsafe environment.
Which I can agree, if there's any substantial evidence.
You can't just make act you say...
Again, we saw this.
with the Mama Max stuff, right?
Mama Max was not the...
Another person who wastes my time.
Mama Max was not the sole person
for the reason that Night Docs fell apart.
Other people were talking about...
We're talking shit about Night Docs behind the scene.
And yes, they should have openly said that.
Them throwing Max completely under the bus,
while I do believe part of it is warranted,
is not solely the issue.
There is also an incident in WalliCon.
Or sexual images of cartoon characters that are children
and accidentally exposing that material to minors in Chris's private server.
Allegedly detest a bot.
Wallachan is...
...that are children and an accidentally exposing that material to minors and Chris's private server.
Allegedly...
A holy shit I just realized this debunks that he was testing a bot excuse.
What's the image?
To test a bot, Wolli Khan is already subjective in nature in the first place,
as people can make the argument that...
Ah! No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no.
Whoa.
No, you fucking...
What the fuck.
Okay, I got to pull this off.
Okay, we're going to look at this because I had to examine it off screen.
I did not consent to poorly censor the Lollicot images.
It's not a morally gray area.
Please don't, like, I don't want to...
Ah!
Why would you include this?
You know this means that she had those images on her computer and censored them.
Yep, yep.
Cecil, I need you.
Or the editor, or the unpaid editor.
Ah, God.
So this is, okay, I want to highlight something.
All of this is, okay, I want to highlight something.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, very important.
None of this.
What's the name on this account?
Will DA Games?
Ryan.
I'm not going to highlight it, Jack.
You can go to the video yourself.
The timestamp is 2842 if you want to fucking destroy your eyes.
These are also different profile pictures, if that matters.
Yeah, I don't really...
The thing is, is that anyone else can change their name to that.
Give me a screenshot of the profile.
Well, it's the green.
Green matters with the actual allegations.
Not only does this muddies things, it shows that she only cared when it's personal.
Yes.
For what I understand, the green text notifies mod or high status in this discord.
But this is not Chris.
You did the...
the thing where you said, well, Chris may have done this.
Look at the lollicon image, but this is Will.
Would you, uh, why would DA Games do this in front of mine?
I have the dock link.
Yeah, I, I, I'm agreeing with you.
DA Games is fucked for this.
Fuck Will from DA Games.
I'm going to say it right now.
You're going to learn more about Will from DA Games than I want to fucking throw him into a
goddamn river with a fucking, like, shit tied to his ankles.
But that's not the fucking point.
This is not Chris, but she's presenting it as Chris posted this.
Listen to it again.
Images of cartoon characters in and around DA games, creating an unsafe environment.
Remember, this is about Chris.
This section is about Chris.
There is also an incident in WalliCon.
Or sexual images of cartoon characters that are children
and accidentally exposing that material to minors in Chris's private server.
Allegedly detest a bot.
Wallachon is already subjective in nature in the first place.
I wanted to be clear, doesn't have a, uh,
I also wanted to be clear that it doesn't have a crown.
it's not from the server owner.
It feels like this is fucking.
Potentially, again, I'm not defending this behavior.
If Will can prove that he didn't do this, he would have done it because this DA doc has been out for a period of time.
Again, this is not, I had to play it so you guys heard the audio.
This is not Chris.
All right, let me, uh, I will.
I meant that these are fictional characters and not real children,
but I don't think anyone will argue that maybe we shouldn't be letting children see sexual imagery.
The big problem with that, besides the incident happening in the first place,
is that it was never officially addressed.
No apology, no nothing.
But instead the threads were...
Ah, you fucking cut!
It's worse.
Part two.
Will Ryan is a...
You should have waited to part two.
Yeah.
I hate, I hate...
Sigh, I like you.
Actually, I like you.
I hate animation people.
I'm gonna be real.
I hate the animation community.
I hate everything around you guys.
I like you a lot, but this is fucking pissing me off.
Why can't you just fucking censor the images regularly?
And why do you need to say Lollie Khan is a morally gray area?
We're done.
I'm done.
I'm a comic guard.
It's not an enemy.
Fair.
Man, this stream is going to be yellow, long.
Yeah, yeah, please, please.
Help us.
Oh, please.
Here comes the bit I was talking about long.
Yeah, here we go.
Axel, this does not hit.
I'm going to be upset at you specifically.
Yeah.
Textbook, Petto.
But I'm pretty much too funny.
Super them up gang.
Thank you guys.
Don't have to do that.
Good sense.
I love you guys.
If that all isn't a big deal, then child grooming is bad, right?
Okay.
But again, this is, now this is Will Ryan.
Fuck Will Ryan will get into this.
Okay.
So, no shit.
So enter player one in this case, the YouTube channel, Dia Games.
For those who aren't aware,
Dia Games is a YouTube channel that makes a variety of content.
Yes.
Including leftplays, their own animation, and fandom
inspired music. The four main current members of the channel are Chris. Will Ryan, Cosmic
Keyframe, or Chrissy, and Sean Webby.
Okay, we will get there.
All himself is problematic for a bunch of reasons. Not limited to dating a minor in 2000.
Okay, so we're going to get to this dating a minor thing because I had to fucking do the thing that
pisses me off the most.
When he was 23. Oh.
And that's shady at best. Here are the screencaps. These are great.
Will, from what I can tell, is from the UK, if somebody can correct me on that.
Is Will from the UK, if somebody can correct me on that.
Because I'm about to get pissed off and say the thing that pisses me off.
Will is in the thing that.
Will is indeed from the UK.
Unfortunately, the age of consent in the UK is 16.
It's not even 17?
No.
Again, every UK person I have ever met says this is insane on the, yes, insane on the motherfucking brain.
Every UK person that I know says,
Do you, you do consider a person dating a 16 year old, a nods?
You don't give a fuck?
You do think they are a nonce.
But legally speaking, he, the fact is that he could do this.
And I hate this. And I hate this. And I hate this. And I don't want to defend this.
But this is, why does the age of consent matter?
They are still a minor?
Unfortunately, it's because she doesn't disclose it.
We are setting a fucking state.
because she doesn't disclose it because there's worse things that go on, but you do have to
disclose parts of it. It's unfortunately legal there. Because if you don't disclose specific parts of
information, it's like it does get annoying. Because that could be, that could be used as his defense
for saying that. Yeah, she could have literally said, oh, he's from the UK. But you don't know if this
person who's saying this is in the U.S.
Or it actually matters what their age is and doesn't matter what his age is.
Yes.
Because it doesn't defend everything else.
There's a reason why you should, you should disclose this.
Is this like, uh, this is like lawful evil?
It's not, this evil.
This is lawful evil.
Well, no, not lawful evil. This is evil.
Well, if it's within the law.
Again, you're saying.
Again, 16 is the age of consent.
That's not law.
That's within the law.
Worse.
Yes, lady.
It is legal in the UK.
Do you want to know how that happened?
We're not doing this right now, Ash.
Great.
I guess you can be Jerry Seinfeld.
Yes.
Oh, here we go, Chad.
He was 38.
I remember that.
So, uh, what are you going to do later?
I got a date with Mickey.
There it is.
This is sped up.
I wanted to point out this is sped up.
It's a beauty.
And she's also 17.
Old and beautiful.
I'll tell you the big advantage of dating a high schooler.
If you're going out with someone your own age, you can't take advantage of it.
I suppose.
Oh, come on.
That's a huge thing.
I'm not slowing it down.
Fuck off.
I'm not slowing this down.
I hate this.
I'm not slowing this down.
Isn't illegal though?
Technically, though.
We're not talking about like stat...
We are not talking about like statutory things.
Also, it wouldn't be legal federally, just to let you know if these two people were in different states as well.
Oh, yeah.
You can't cross-up.
Yes.
The reason the law matters is because K.P. asks, yeah.
The reason the law matters is because KPs ask is that a UK company takes action against Will.
They can't take action against Will because he hasn't broken a law.
This is, exactly.
He doesn't realize I'm a predator.
Jerry.
Yes?
I've been doing a lot of thinking.
Uh-huh.
Well, I don't think we should see each other anymore.
Oh, that's okay.
What?
No, it's fine.
No problem.
I'll meet somebody else.
Sure.
There are plenty of high schools in New York City.
It's fine.
Anyway, it's been really nice grooming you for a while.
I'm gonna go scoped out of Chuckie cheese.
Yeah, me too.
She'll be coming round the mountain when she comes.
Feeding anyone eight.
That lasts entirely too long.
I'm...
Greg, how do you feel about that?
That was sped up, by the way.
I spent that up for a reason.
So,
Fun fact, Seinfeld is also sped up like at 1.15 time speed so that they can cram more ads in during replays anyway.
So I think that's...
So it sounded like how I normally hear it on TV.
Oh, my God.
But that was...
That was awful.
I don't...
And in pain.
And again, my problem with including that is she is now going to...
bring up credible allegations.
Why do it last so long?
Because...
Why was that the longest bit?
Yeah.
Because there are going to be...
Can she get a copyrighted for that?
No, because there is a fan dub.
And...
She took the video down.
Yeah, she'll stick the video down.
Yes, this video is down, by the way.
This is an archival site.
But again,
in the United States, the age of consent is set at 16 and 31 states.
17 in 17 in 7 states and 18 in 12 states.
But it kind of doesn't matter because most people defer to federal law.
Yes.
Again, the problem is it only gets worse from here.
And she's now going to bring up credible allegations against DA games that I feel should be addressed.
18 falls into a legally gray area depending on what state or country you're in.
But the general little of thumb is anyone 18 should not be dating anyone who's younger than 18.
Okay.
That's the internet law.
I looked it up.
Okay, hold up, hold up.
What's what, what does she say?
The general little thumb is anyone 18 should not be dating anyone who's younger than 18.
Yeah, uh, I mean, there's statutory, but yeah, don't, don't do that.
You shouldn't be...
Hold up, hold up.
I need to get through this again, because there's, there's a part that doesn't make sense to me in this one.
I got to remember this.
Oh, fuck a chucky cheese. I don't care.
Dating anyone 18 falls into a legally gray area.
There is nothing legally gray about dating anybody 18.
I'm sorry.
There is nothing.
legally gray.
As an abuse victim that messes me up, I can't imagine how I'd react if somebody portrayed my abuse in that way.
Yeah. What if she comes out and says I was groomed? What did you just do? You just said, oh, you're grooming as a joke.
And again, Tatea, I, like, I, I understand how people could feel about age gaps. I fucking get it.
But 18.
is an adult legally.
They can date anybody over any fucking age they want.
Doesn't matter how you feel about it.
So, Falg, if an 8, 16-year-old were to date an 18-year-old in the same state, then we'd arrest the 18-year-old, according to KP.
Yeah, I got it.
Believe me.
There's a reason why...
There's a reason why Romeo and Juliet laws exist.
I've had to explain it multiple times.
Cohorts. Specific cohorts.
Within like a same, like, fucking visualization.
vicinity, not your Discord e-romance.
So, like, if you're that age and you go to the same high school, it makes more sense that if it's like
you're just a globshit on the internet, talk to another globshut on the internet.
That's weird.
Again, she did, she needed multiple revisions of this script if she was going to do this, because
this is insane.
Because again, it's not, it's not more legally, this is why you send your script off the people you trust,
so they can tell you if it's bad or not.
Well, what I've heard is that this script was she.
shopped around to people that she trusted. The people that she trusted were not very good with it.
We'll get to some of the people that she trusted later.
...area, depending on what state or country you're in. But the general little of thumb is anyone 18
should not be dating anyone who's... Again, we, unfortunately, listen, there's Romeo and Juliet laws.
There's a reason why. But again.
...than 18. That's the internet law. I looked it up. Part 2.5, it's grooming. But the most problematic of all
of this is minor straight up being groomed in their public spaces. Yes.
Who you'll hear from in a second was 15.
years old when someone around 19 years old started sending them self-harm pictures.
Sensored screenshots were on screen. It's not a fun video. I warned you. Stop, stop. Take this off. Take this off.
And manipulated to break up with their current partner at the time. This escalated to...
Ah!
Oh my God. I'm just kidding. I skipped it. Flash banged. I skipped it because that was a poorly, poorly, poorly fucking taken out dick pick.
Why can't you black box it? Why can't you black box it? I take your word for it. Why can't you black box it? I take your word for it. Why can't you black box? Why can't you black box it?
Black box it.
What do you expect that the child editor in her sweatshop who doesn't get paid to actually do something?
Fuck me.
I'm going to crash out.
Not even, like, I have to skip it. I have to skip it. I have to skip it. Like, I don't know.
This will... Again, this stream is going fucking yellow. For real, for real.
Lost in Worlds 15 became a member.
Lost in Worlds 15 celebrates one month of membership. If you're not a teen, don't. Don't Interested.
interact with teens. Yeah, this is like, yeah. No, obviously. And again, this is abhorrent. I want to make it abundantly clear this is abhorrent. Like, this is disgusting. By all means, disgusting.
Till g-blocked completely. And how was it handled in the DA game server?
Contacted Will about the situation. Who sympathetic?
Okay, so this person contacted DA online Will, Ryan, going on to say, hey, I didn't want to make this, I didn't want to do this publicly.
Because I don't want people to know the whole Twitter thing is about me.
But yeah, it's about me.
Because you don't want this affecting your image and the image of the team and server, but it's bigger than that.
You really hurt my feelings with what you said. I know you probably didn't intend to hurt anyone.
But to me, it came off like you care more about your image than about victims.
My intentions were never attention or love. I just wanted to say anonymous as much as I could to avoid that.
I just wanted to warn people of this individual. I get why the link was deleted.
But I feel like you went too far by putting the whole range.
there maybe i was wrong maybe i'm seeing that wrong i'm not upset just disappointed really but i want to you to hear me out uh wanted to hear you out
uh i think there's just better ways to then this has been going on was there uh way better than every single
day pulling up some rando when all they had to say was a mean thing and very personal bring our name into it our
community as a whole into something something something uh and work at your discretion whatever
the claims are whatever the problems are i would appreciate my name and my image not being
brought in the question people can expose all they want uh but involving my brand is in this is
when in actuality it involves none of us i don't think is okay when it comes to major things like pedophilia
uh and whatever is is excusable for an expose that can be done without using a brand name and community
title i just don't see why it does any good to anybody when the community space has to get involved
we're all supposed to feel safer individually so hearing they walk among us isn't going to keep
anybody calm and as indeed is resulted in our community for uh falling dramatically in volume more
than is necessary more than is needed again i'm quite happy to be rid of most dangerous person on
the people on the internet but i could absolutely take someone down with
without involving an entire community in the picture.
P.S. whatever you think you're at fault with, I have it the slightest clue.
This was aimed more at people like singing guy and their crew who lately had been going after several
people for the most quite and personal of problems involving our name.
Victim, because this was a tweet I made on a side account to address all this stuff
that got posted in the bunker by somebody else and got deleted by mods.
This is why I thought it was a direct response to that.
Will, I actually never saw that link, nor did I see the tweet.
I was playing God of War Ragnaroth since 12 hours, not stop.
I haven't had time until I had a break to eat food and check in.
Blank, why would you like to? I think it, would you like to, it helps the context.
Blank, will honestly. Okay, blank.
Okay.
So it seems like.
he was receptive to it. Again, it seems to... But didn't want the company name involved?
Yeah, like, again, I think that this is a failing of the company that they were not addressing this.
They deleted it. I don't know why the mods deleted it. Could they have deleted it? Because
it does contain self-harm scars and fucking dick pick and shit like that. Yes, an evidence of grooming.
Yeah. It doesn't excuse the reaction to it. Don't get me wrong. But it seems like Will personally wasn't involved. And this then became, if Will could provide proof because we don't have it, a campaign to rally against anybody in the server whom may have caused a slight that was not related to the original allegations of pedophilia.
Again, I think that this is very abhorrent way to do this and to highlight this and to kind of like...
You know what I mean? Like, this is the problem with having minors in your discord. Every fucking time. Every time I have to say this. Don't have fucking children in your spaces.
Am I missing anything that I, that I get anything wrong? Am I losing my... Am I crashing the fuck out right now?
I'm just kind of... Don't have kids. Don't have kids. Don't have kids. Just don't have kids. Never breed.
Never go on discord. Delete your discords. I think the standout thing is, is him being like, I don't want the company.
game involved. I don't want the community involved. Yeah. And like, they should be made aware if there are active, or the mod should be made aware if there are, if there are groomers prowling around your, your discords. And also, the community should be aware that there have been people that are being kicked out for this very thing. And to be made certain that nobody that the mod and the staff and the team,
do not condone that.
And that they have been made aware of it and that they've taken the proper measures.
Yeah, I think that that's pretty much it. It's like, it's like, I agree that it should be addressed.
Make it very clear this should have been addressed. Publicly, I don't know. It's, there's an issue with it. Right?
But it should have been made mentioned to. My only question is that the victim
at, like, does the victim have proof that they went to these people before posting on, on Twitter?
That's my only fucking ask. My only ask.
My only ask.
We'll get into it.
Guys privately, but didn't do anything publicly. But like, what's accountability for exposing minors to a predator?
And I just left the space on his own.
I eventually had to make his own Twitter thread with screenshots to prove the account was true.
I mean, come the fuck on.
Okay.
I don't think anyone believed the account.
The least you could have done was ban a pedophile.
The bare minimum, what's that?
Let me be clear.
This isn't only Will's fault.
It's everyone involved in the company, including the people I named before.
And I know rent is a thing that sacrificing putting children at risk because you don't want to publicly speak out about...
Huh?
She's saying that it's not worth their public image.
This behavior and threaten your livelihood.
And because you don't want to go to college.
It's just shitty and selfish.
Oh, you are just the worst.
type of person.
Next is shit and his friend Pixel talking about problematic behavior in the D.A. Games community
and the situation at large.
Welcome to the no fun interview section.
All right.
So here we go.
Who's Pixel?
This is the DA Games document. We will go through it.
We will go through it on a different stream, chat.
We'll get there.
So this is Pixel and another person.
They're going to become relevant later.
I brought them on to share their personal stories in audio form.
So it's a bit easier to.
digest as well as provide some context to these things and that these are real people, I promise.
So why don't you guys introduce yourselves?
This is very low chat.
I was a fan since 2018 until I came from being friends with one of the game's owners.
In, I want to say 20, 2021, I'm not sure.
I was commissioned by him in late 2022 to make a concert outfit.
So this is Will of DA games.
Really all I got.
Well, that's all I have.
like I have, like to my relation to him.
We were friends, but not really.
So you had a professional relationship with Will?
Yeah, I was commissioned once.
That's about it.
Oh my God.
Okay, so Pixel, what's your background?
Whoa.
So I was a fan in 2018 at 2023, and I was a fan artist in the server.
I did a lot of general fan art and general art interpretations of his stuff.
And I never worked with him my professionally, but I was friends with him during 2023.
And we DMed pretty often for a couple of them.
Okay, so they DM'd, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, dickhead.
I'm afraid of being the wrong one.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Okay.
It's like we talked in VCs and stuff.
How did that start?
Did he notice your fan art and start DMing you or what?
It was kind.
kind of interesting he was friends first and other than the d a game server there was another
friend server that he was in and at some point the topic of me came up and he was a DM and he noticed
that i wasn't on his friends list and he was just kind of confused about that.
Okay. So it was kind of he thought we were friends already and so it was around early 20 23 that i accepted his
why does any of this matter will become irrelevant later request and we started
from there i think we officially started a conversation after and sent him to his friend he knew she was like
harassing for like two this is them DMing a random other person i am not reading a bunch of these um
I spoke a blank and it was honestly frustrating he's making it seem like he did nothing wrong.
I made a bunch of excuses to not send a genuine apology to Will.
Don't know about Freaky.
I feel like that's the person in question.
I think Inutras, Jamie or Freaky is the person they keep bleeping out.
Two hours and I had that conversation at Will.
Or maybe not.
Who knows.
The friend is doing this and this is what happened and here's a conversation that we had.
And after that we just started having normal conversations.
So I guess Will does this where he'll just take people from the fan server and try to build a personal connection.
Yeah.
Okay.
Want to make this very clear?
I...
If these people aren't minors, and if they're doing work, I don't, I don't, I don't know.
Not the point.
I think it's a weird question.
I get where she's going.
It's a leading question for a reason, because there's a point to this.
Still a weird question.
Because it sets up having...
A second server, which they should never have had.
Like, law on Enuarium.
Sometimes just some people get invited to you, I guess.
Okay, I guess from what I'm getting at so far is there seems to be a lack of boundaries.
Not that it's a bad thing to make friends with fans or anything,
but I feel like it's almost competitive if you have, like,
a server of people he likes that are on the fan server.
It's not competitive.
I don't, I don't understand.
Didn't you hire people for free?
Didn't you put free people in an NDA?
I know, listen, we're splitting hairs, but like,
you just don't...
Glasshouses, chat.
Glass houses!
Yeah, it's really weird.
Yeah, so what happened for me was I was friends with Lala before I was invited to a server.
Okay.
So because I had a mutual friend with Will, being Lala, I was invited there.
So Will didn't invite you directly, though.
Because it sounds like Lala invited the both of you and not Will.
Need to make clarifications.
God, I hate this.
This fucking story.
sucks.
officially model server, but it mostly gets used for Will stuff.
So it was officially somebody else's server.
So highlighting that, she says, oh, Will's creating a competitive environment.
No, the person they were both equally friends with invited them to their server, and Will happens to be there.
Again, shit gets more fucked after this, but we need to keep the story straight.
Who exactly isn't a server? Is it just like personal jokes or a similar layout to the other server,
but just kind of private?
It's supposed to be a friend group server, but it's really centered around Will.
Yeah, they had this rule where if you weren't active enough, you'll get kicked.
So that's, but it's Lala server.
Remember, it's this person's server.
And if you can go to VCs, you'd have to explain yourself, like, oh, I'm doing VC today because of explain to see.
And generally, from my experience, a lot of people had to cater to Will, like, going back on doing the server in general.
They used to let people in pretty generally, but then they just kind of restricted access.
Like, the only reason I got in there was because you actually actually you bite and
in there. A few times Shapshsci gave out invites, but it's technically a friend-saber, but they have, like, not official events, but they do VC a lot.
No, D-Rail. Fishy. Fishy, no. Fishi, what did you do? What did you do, fishy?
Days, and they just generally expect you to be active a lot.
So it seems to me like the whole point of the server is for Will to talk to people and get validation. Is that it?
Yeah, definitely. I remember this one time that me and a friend who was in there watching. I think it was how raise a...
Will was the most popular person in that server. He was always made it about him. Lala lives slash lives with Will. They're very close. There's a lot of conflict of interest. It's a lop of slop. It's a loop of slop. Holy shit. Thank you for the clarification. Yeah.
still my one thing is that Lala created the server. It was not... How do I express this? KP wants to paint this as Will's extra server.
I've got to make it clear.
Again, I'm with you on that.
But again, and there's also, I want to highlight this,
nothing wrong with leading questions.
In my opinion, it's nothing, it's, we're not in a court of law.
Imagine.
Imagine how long this interview would be if KB didn't get what she needed to.
Yeah.
Any interviewers should actually also ask pre-interview questions to, to, like, set the mood.
Yeah, because there's a difference between an interview versus just like a conversation.
I think that's a good way of expressing it.
This is clearly an interview where there are, there's information KP needs to express to the audience that we're trying to go through.
I'm fucking grinding my face against the wall here trying to parse all of this.
But versus a recorded Discord call, so to speak.
Yeah, and we're only doing it for clarifying.
verification status because there are other people who share responsibility in this.
Other people.
It was one of the worst Hellways are movies.
We were like cracking jokes and stuff.
Okay.
Uh, I feel I got annoyed and upset.
Somebody decided, uh, every day when Will did.
I was keeping an eye on VC like 70% of the time.
I didn't get a, okay, this is somebody else.
I'm not annoying.
A couple people thought it.
Just one person had a crack at it.
A lot of us were anxious.
I planned to keep it quiet because I knew this exact thing.
I've had to subject my life to so much.
And one time I opened my mouth,
makes people dislike me.
It's why I don't say anything at all.
An hour or a...
Sorry, I'm not...
No, sorry I'm interjecting.
Blank, dude, I'm not saying that this is a bad...
That it was bad that you said it.
What did he say?
Because we were talking over a movie when he didn't even choose to watch it.
We did.
I made a separate room for people to watch them.
So he just got mad that you guys were talking over a movie?
Were there any minors in the server?
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh, this is where I get really mad.
No minors in your server.
I can't say this every fucking time.
It's going to piss me the fuck off.
I'm not going to say names, but I remember there'd be like several, at least.
So I guess it's kind of questionable that he made a separate server to invite mostly fans of his main server.
He did not.
See, but this is what I'm saying.
This is why it's really important.
He did not make the server.
Lala did.
You don't know if Will invited those people.
personally, Lala may have done that and also seems like a freak.
You have a very more structurally compelling argument if you show that the people in and around Will,
and if the chatter is to be believed living with Will, is perpetuating this cycle of being comfortable
with minors to the point where they start making sexual and inappropriate jokes.
This is my problem with KP. I think KP is presenting something very interesting.
This is what like pissing me off.
This stuff needs to be covered.
It's why I want to cover it later.
And the, back to the leading questions portion,
this is good to showcase that KP is want,
what information KP wants to,
wants anonymous and pixel to get to,
like the, or wants the audience to understand for,
or wants to portray it however you want.
Yes.
She's asking.
she's asking that Will made this separate.
When, from the previous information, moments prior, it's clear that Lala was the one inviting these people.
Yes.
And again, it's still incredibly inappropriate.
And downright criminal to a certain point.
In my opinion, granted, these people will probably never fucking see any crimes.
But then you also kind of need to look at
the people in and around certain things, right?
I'll keep playing this.
Which I guess isn't the worst thing in the world, obviously.
But it's things like the boundaries that are weird,
the rules as far as VCing that are weird,
and the fact that there are...
Also, I want to highlight something.
She doesn't mind that there's minors in the server.
Or, okay, maybe she does.
I hold up.
Maybe I fucking...
I did the thing.
The boundaries that are weird, the rules as far as VCing that are weird,
and the fact that there are minors in there.
Okay, I lied.
She does.
I'm sorry.
I did the streamer moment thing.
Were there inappropriate jokes and stuff like that?
Yeah, there used to be an NSW chat even,
and like people just shared our kings in there and stuff.
I remember this.
They could believe it eventually, but it was weird.
Like, the time I was in there.
Fucking, I'm gonna crash out.
I hate this.
I hate this so much.
Can't be fine.
You're fine, by the way.
I just want to need to highlight it because
this video is critically confusing.
But fuck these people for having an NSFW chat.
We're children.
Do not.
Do not do this.
Oh my God.
Just don't have NSFW.
It needs to be 18 plus.
If you have an NSFW chat, 18 plus.
Your server is immediately 18 plus.
You don't fucking hide it behind fucking rolls.
It doesn't work that way.
It should never work that way.
If I go into your server and you get and I fucking find that shit out,
I'm exposing the fuck out of you.
Why?
Because the search.
It doesn't matter.
The role doesn't matter.
The locked role doesn't matter.
You cannot do this.
Have we forgotten what the FCK and ACCCC rot?
No, everybody fucking forgets it apparently.
I'm just tired of these like fucking weird excuses for like really shitty behavior.
Like it's just really fucking annoying.
Like, ay, yai.
Jesus Christ.
also, I want to bring this up now.
Maybe, just maybe, if you bring someone onto your thing, fuck me.
Maybe don't bring somebody on who doesn't have the greatest track record with these allegations.
So this is Pixel.
the person in this video.
What if I told you in October of last year?
Pixel actually did hashtag stand with Will?
Huh. Really interesting. That I can find this.
And that it's still up.
It's almost like doing research and doing disclosures.
Would it have not been great for Pixel to identify they no longer stand with Will?
Yes, Cammy Fy, we're going to get to that. We will actually get to that.
Actually, no fuck it.
Yeah, Will posted Lollicon art.
That's illegal in the UK, by the way.
Having possession of that is illegal.
That's illegal.
The having that is an actual crime.
I wonder how he's going to react to that one.
Illegal yet pixel hashtag stand with law.
Fuck me.
Thank you, Shadow.
No.
It just, just this.
It looks like dope.
Oh. It looks like the clop block.
I fucking hate you guys.
Shadow, you're the best.
God damn it.
Oh, thank you.
Looks like a backwards deep.
Wait, did you make this drop or you fuck?
The clop block. I fucking.
So let's read some of these.
Over the past couple weeks, I've seen certain things brought up regarding.
writing DA and seeing my previous statement is continually used, I felt it was necessary.
Hashtag DA games.
Hashtag stand with Will.
Because of recent events, I must speak.
In terms of my previous apology, it appears my words were quite minced.
None of the screenshots were fake.
The issue was not enough context was given for some of them.
Obviously, there are behaviors I don't condone.
But taking what I said and getting its fake out of it shows the lack of nuance with these issues.
In terms of writing, I confess that this.
there were not my full raw words.
What I mean by this is to say the apology was constructed with mods involved instead of straight
from me.
Yes, I did feel pressure to write it when I did because I was in the middle of a college class when
approached.
This was shared, but I pushed to do so anyways.
While I was pressured, I want to make clear the mistakes of the previous doc, including personal
information of a minor.
are things I still am very sorry for.
I do not condone lollicons slash Shoda or anything regarding underage characters.
I do, I don't and cannot agree with hiring monitor minors for moderators.
I cannot continue to watch those words which were sanitized and not really mine be used to justify those kinds of behaviors.
Yes, we'll let a minor be a mod. We'll get there.
But I want to highlight this for a second because previously they wrote something that they're saying was doctored by other people to defend them.
And then they're coming out and saying, hey, I actually was coerced into doing this.
The fandom is large and there's quite few issues.
Going forward, I will not interact with anything DA related.
So again, maybe you can highlight this.
Maybe you should have highlighted all of this.
I'm not going to read this whole thing.
Remember if you need a lawyer or therapist.
Falgis both.
Oh, no.
Yeah, I heard that too recently.
Yeah, I think it's cool anime.
I heard it from cool anime girls.
Cool anime girls said that recently.
I heard that.
Don't say that.
There was a group apology.
So this person was a mod.
See, this is the other thing.
If this person was a mod, they are just as culpable as everyone else in that fucking video.
Any links to the tweet?
I'll put it in later.
Because we have a bunch of links to a bunch of things.
You are just as culpable as the people you are accusing of.
Again, I am not saying that this is okay.
I am saying that this person came out.
this is fine.
But like the problem is that you have a history of not, you wanted them, you had them review it.
You had them review everything that you wrote.
And appears that Lala was also involved in my original draft of my statement, I wanted to address the manner.
And that was presented unapproachably, he apologized in VC excuse again.
If you're saying that you were in somehow involved,
this came out of it.
Like, this is what I'm saying.
You can't, like, you have to address that your statements previously were used to defend people.
I want to believe that people could change.
But deleting things as a few days ago instead of addressing them is bad, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Again, want to highlight this.
You should have disclosed this in this interview.
You are using somebody who's using somebody who's.
history of potentially defending will, if not being somewhat involved in part of the cover-up,
if not being coerced to say something, them not saying this in this interview is a fucking problem.
This person should have been interviewed separately.
I'm not trying to do with this. I was a minor at the time. I think.
So this person, Anonymous, Anonymous,
was a minor at the time.
Sorry, but, yeah, it was really sexual and racist and stuff.
Question is KP, the same KP that was friends with the Lee Orchard?
Yes, we will get there.
Okay, not off to a good start.
So that seems to be the running theme with the A games in general that they're being inappropriate with minors.
They make inappropriate or not safe for work jokes in front of minors, and no one seems to be willing to do.
The only person that we know who's done that is Will.
We'll get to, again, Will sucks. Will sucks. Will sucks. I can't say it enough.
Do anything about it.
Yeah, exactly. Like, sometimes, they...
I like for forever now, I want to say.
They refuse to even acknowledge that there are minors in their audience.
Yeah, I remember that when the first version of the doc dropped,
we were bringing at the point that he was trying to dumping to minors
and talking about things that Yoker Kitchin be hearing,
and he relies a lot on his family's your personal support.
There's an entire channel on that, so they were dedicated to just...
A place for giving love to the DA crew for each other, please refrain from Vens.
...specally support, and the entire moving server is dedicated by how he's feeling that day.
Yes, I know Chris. Chris Chan was there.
Again, I...
You were there.
Chris Chan can go wherever Chris Chan goes and be friends with whoever Chris Chan wants to be.
Again, a court has ruled that Chris Chan is fucking insane.
He's a document like, hey, he's trauma dumping.
He's talking about all these horrible things without a filter.
Do these people, and people were giving the excuse with him.
Again, don't trauma dump the minors.
I can't believe I have to say that.
Again, this DA, oh, Panda Slowbo, thank you so much.
Thank you, thank you.
Yes, I know KPA has interacted favorably with Chris Chan.
I made my stance on it.
I don't...
Oh, what do?
Chris Chan goes where Chris Chan goes.
If people want to be friends with Christian, I literally...
What am I supposed to do?
Look.
Chris Chan is a much larger entity than KP or any of these other people.
We all...
It's like a...
It's like fish are fighting for scraps around a shark.
You know, it's like that's like...
We're trying to attack a Leviathan that cannot die.
Let's be like, Frank.
I think KP is friends with Chris because of their audience.
And like, their clout.
I'll be up front.
It's a fucking...
You can you assume the same way that fucking Kee was friends with Lily.
It was like an Eldridge creature entered the chat.
I know I was there, sigh.
It was hilarious.
I saw it.
I'm just like, what?
Yeah.
This age, when reality, the age range was like, it was a lot broader than like 16, 17.
They were 14-year-olds, 13-olds in there.
The broader range is like from 13 to early 20s in a server.
And it's unfair to assume that just because it...
Wait, do we tell him that we saw that person.
They did have an S a double channel in that main server, but I wasn't around when it was the thing.
And what year was this about?
I'm not entirely sure.
I remember being there when I tried to see him.
channel got deleted.
When did you guys join the server?
I joined the server in May 2018, and it was around then.
I joined in December.
I don't know how long it was around.
Like, the server has existed since 2016.
But it may have been around since the beginning.
I'm not sure.
Listen, here's the thing.
Chris Chan, if you ever want to be interviewed, I'll do it fucking live.
I have zero qualms about content for content sake.
I feel like you would be a better interview than Keffels was.
Oh, God, I forgot they did that.
Ah, you know, Gooner from ours was.
Gameer from ours does a pretty all right job with it.
That's why I said couples and not.
No, no, no, no.
I'm saying, no, what I'm saying is I think gamer from Mars that are like a really like all right job
getting all the answers that people want.
But I'm just saying, Chris, if you somehow hear me, I'll interview you.
And another thing I wanted to bring up is that the moderators to know.
Moderators don't go through formal training.
Holy fuck.
I don't know a Discord mod that has gone through formal training.
Who the fuck cares?
Wait, mods are the go to the CPR training?
Oh no.
I don't have my certification.
Like, this is a Discord server.
Again, fucking disgusting.
Allowing predators in, allowing minors and adults that have access to minors in your discord is fucking disgusting.
But what the fuck?
Is this.
And also, if part of your pixel, remember, you said that mods were controlling your, um,
you and other mods were controlling your, um, you and other mods were controlling your, uh, were controlling
your previous statement in 2023.
Really weird that you're shoving all the responsibility on other fucking people.
Weird.
I was there and he just picked someone and he was like, oh, you should be a moderator now.
You've been a friend for long enough.
And like I said, he's hiding minor moderators.
The most recent one just turned 18, 18 last year.
He's hiding minor.
Again, fuck this guy for having minor moderators, you fucking disgusting fuck.
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Yeah, you know, I heard of that too recently.
Somebody named Mara told me that.
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Fuck me.
Hi, child. I know, I know.
I graduated high school last year, and they were a moderator the entire time from 20, 23.
And I'm 20 now.
Again, fuck these people for having minor mods.
Again, the DA game.
Okay, so straight up, if you, if you sands the fucking, um, if you sands the fucking shit about Chris for a second and led with the DA game stuff and then tied DA games to Sabrespark would have been more compelling in my opinion.
the Christian is petty.
This is, like, this is so important that it deserved its own fucking video.
Not a two-hour video.
The Christian-it is too personal for KP to be covering it?
Yes.
Unbiasedly.
Yes.
Like, for sure.
But this other stuff is definitely interesting and compelling.
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
They were youngering me that entire time.
And as far as I'm aware, I heard they were recommended to someone.
No, they got picked randomly.
They got me a little bit.
I remember this.
Yeah.
it was weird. They just got picked for no reason.
And they even...
Weird.
Yes.
So the pick random.
Okay.
Wait.
Let me see if there was a screenshot.
Um, there's a screenshot.
I should actually read this.
By the way, I'm 11.
X-D.
You're fine, though.
11 is illegal in the Discord.
Or it's against Discord terms of service.
Don't do that.
Oh, you can't be 11 in Discord.
Run away.
Please.
Escape.
Snowy.
I'm two years older than you.
So 13.
Sugi, L-E-L.
The, the, fuck.
fucking will.
But see,
I called you,
I called your age out higher.
You,
you'd think that kind of stands out
as older than your age, right?
Fuck you,
he's not.
Fuck you.
No, don't say that.
You're mature for your age.
Again, this is so much more of a compelling video.
This is so compelling.
Why did you do this?
The SabreSpark allegations,
you really can't.
Holy proof.
The other allegations,
it's personal,
maybe pass it off to somebody.
This would have been a perfect
fuck you to DA games.
I want to crash out.
Will says, because you're more mature,
you're another great mod
that lets loose every now and then.
I mean, for fuck's sake,
it's okay to do that every now and then.
This is clearly like a mod wall thing,
right? Am I crazy?
This appears to be a mob?
And she's all.
It's 2016!
Uh, I watched, I watched a little bit of the Parlo video, uh, Cammy.
I have the Google Doc.
That's all that matters.
Oh, hello, Pixel Kitty.
Thank you for popping in.
Listen, I'm going to be honest.
As I said this before, and I appreciate you coming out,
if KP was going to make this video using your test.
testimony, the disclosure of your previous actions in that server and your previous response
should have been included.
Finding this does, and I don't think it can, and I'm being very honest, when I say this,
I don't think it casts doubt on what's being shown, because I think the DA stuff is important.
But finding this allows DA games
to question your credibility.
Again, what I want to highlight is that this is a bad video that fucks up and DA games can worm
their way into whatever the fuck they want to say.
Will can say whatever the fuck he says.
Because how bad this video is.
We're seeing screenshots like this for the first time.
Yep, we told her to remove the jokes and shit.
All right, I'm going to pull the trigger on this.
Because I know Kim doesn't like minors in the Discord.
Let's pull the trigger on something, chat.
Because I think it's long enough that I didn't hide it.
About six months or so.
Kim doesn't have a problem, has a problem with minors in the Discord.
But I wonder if Kim has a problem with hiring or having minors work on their animations.
Oh, is this a demon-m-a-gluby situation? Oh, my God.
Let's go back a little bit. Let's go.
Cool. The tale of Michael Boggs. The tale of Michael Boggs begins about six months or so prior to,
to the release of Dispective. He was an editor on the team who was very young. Be careful with
those children. Let me tell you what. Don't hire minors. Who did a good job but was originally
caught lying about his age at the time. We gave him pass because he had a clean record otherwise.
He was assigned to edit the animatic. You knew he was a minor. You knew he lied about his age.
And you are, again. Oh, minor mods? Again, glass house. Minor shouldn't be fun.
fucking mods. Miners shouldn't be in your Discord and they shouldn't be working for you. Guess what? If you don't have legal paperwork for this minor to work with you on a project that you're making money on, you are breaking a law.
Breaking the law. You can't have minors work for you. You can't have minors. What? Did he get extracurriculars for his fucking school? I'm pretty sure a school would not sign up on this.
This is like, and yeah, it's weird that a ton of KP member, former KP members moved to DA.
Weird, right? Almost like, I don't know.
Ah, interesting. Almost like there's a reason why she doesn't like DA a lot more than the allegations that she's leading way.
DA a lot more than the allegations that are very credible that she's leading with.
It's almost like I keep saying, you need to disclose your gripes with people before making a video like this.
Let's continue a little bit talking about your minor editor.
...version of the Dispective Project and Rough Animation. But what eventually caught up to him was his failure to commit to deadlines when he was working on our review of
my little pony movie called Equesture Games. It's like the Olympics, but...
Could he have had schoolwork? How old was he? Did he have fucking schoolwork to do? Was it? Oh my Christ!
What, did he fucking go to summer camp?
And he was 16.
And he was motherfuckers.
You know how ironic I find it?
In the end of this video, she's worrying a like mental health matters.
Well, yeah, because they were attacking her.
And again.
I'm just saying it's funny.
It's all I'm saying.
Why are we looking at a different video now?
K.P.
Because it matters.
Because K.P. has a history of having a might.
work on animations for her.
That's the problem.
And the problem with that is Glass House scenario.
If she doesn't disclose this,
we find this, it casts doubt on this entire video with credible allegations.
That's the problem.
This whole stream highlights the
fact that when somebody fucks up
a video like this,
they go into your history.
This is what we do on this channel.
It's what you guys tip us for.
It's what we get paid by other people to look through.
This is insane.
It's also like, you know your own shit.
You know what you did wrong.
You don't think other people are going to look into it.
You are very incorrect.
It's content.
If you make yourself content, people will dig into the center of the earth to find what you did wrong.
Yeah.
Again, like I said, we still have an entire stream on DA games and Black Griffin of all people now to look at.
I said this and I mean this.
This has been a grudge decades in the making.
The Brony community is fucked.
I hate all of these people.
Fuck all of them.
I want them to all go into a rocket and sputniked themselves somewhere into the stratosphere.
But this is, this is not okay.
Oh, Ash, somehow both of your names is on screen.
Oh, you put Ash at Eric's Blue.
Yeah.
Just some people don't, because there's another person that named Ash in the chat and they were getting added.
But they thought it was me.
I was like, oh, okay, I'm going to just put my, my ads that people know.
Again, that's the reason.
Let's play this a little bit more because it's going to come up.
With ponies, but they're.
not ponies.
He kept on exaggerating his progress without showing any proof of progress.
And even with the final warning, he still didn't.
Huh. Interesting.
Doesn't this sound a lot like allegations against Chris exaggerating their skills and abilities?
Yeah, no, we're talking to Pixel. Yeah. I see them. Thank you, Abyssal.
Pixel, thank you so much.
I don't necessarily have more questions for you for, I guess, this stream.
If you want to like and subscribe, you could do that where you are going to go over the DA games allegations and things like that.
You want to provide color commentary during that process.
You can.
If you want to discuss anything more of how you felt in your KP experience and specifically how that kind of did things for you.
I'd be, you can type it in the chat as much as you want.
like, no one is going to attack you or anything like that.
I want to make it very clear.
While parts of your testimony can become under question for things like that.
Also the shit, yeah, we, oh, yeah, we know.
We know, we know, we know.
Again, if you take accountability for your past stuff and for the past stuff and then for
stuff you say in this video, I can't fuck with you.
Also, you please be of age.
I know it says on your Discord, you're like 21, you know, no minors, please.
Are you going to go over the Davis Spark stuff?
Yeah, we're going to get there.
I wanted to highlight this, though.
Finish the project on his own deadline.
It had to be completed by someone else.
So let me just stay.
Because he's a child.
Michael was fired for not doing his job.
You fired a child!
This is, you know, this is KP's YouTube sweatshop.
Only the best miners are allowed in this sweatshop.
You fired a child.
Yeah, this is 12 course.
I know.
We will listen to the two.
June critic apology thing.
He had a chance to communicate with us any problems, but he didn't.
He just kind of, you know, lied and bit off more than he could chew.
Things didn't progress with Michael until he was under the influence of past
animators Christian and Sean and editor of the Lost narrator.
It's also important to note that Mike here didn't have a bad experience.
He was just doing this because I guess his friends were into it or something.
Wait, how old was he?
I was gone for a bit.
Axel, thank you so much.
16.
You know, if your friends jump off a cliff, right?
If memory serves, he even wrote me a little note that he wasn't mad at anyone for the outcome in this, and that he...
If memory serves, you don't have proof of it.
If you don't have proof of it, it didn't exist.
Good.
Even offhandedly referencing his trouble with local police.
Okay.
What?
Though I did receive some harassment from the Dispective Project,
the instigator of all this online harassment was actually magnified and continued through the use of this Twitter called Anon KP Leaks.
I'm not going to go through this anymore.
We're going to go through the rest of the video, but this fucking pisses me off.
She's going to constantly claim that these people shouldn't have had mods in their Discord.
I'm mod minors in the Discord.
Completely agree.
I hate that shit.
Glass house.
Glass fucking house.
They graduated high school last year, and they were a moderator the entire time from server from 2018 to 2023.
And I'm 20 now, so they were younger than me that entire time.
And as far as I'm aware, I heard they were recommended to someone.
No, they got picked randomly.
I remember this.
Yeah, it was weird.
They just got picked for no reason.
And they even told me several times in the end when they were a moderator, like,
you should have been it, not me.
Because, I don't know, they part of them themselves as not being capable enough to be a moderator,
but they feel more anyway.
Yeah, I can get the point of having moderators being subjective,
but at the very least they should not be minors.
They should also know its actual work and should be okay with whatever work they get.
Usually mods are like, hey, minor, don't go on the 18 plus chat, or have a question.
We'll help you.
The video took so long I can drink in America now.
Fuck me.
Oh, that made me sick to my stomach.
I'm going to go feed the dog actual food real quick.
If we reach the goal, she'll get a treat, obviously.
I'll be right back.
Oh, this is annoying.
I hate this.
So it's just going to be me, uh, Q and, uh, Greg.
Yep, go.
I'll be R. B too.
I'm, I'm, I'm going to make myself food.
We're, I'm strapping myself in.
Okay.
I was going to ask you about Warhammer stuff.
Okay, I'll ask you when you get back.
Ask me now and I can, I can.
Maybe I can answer.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Q, Q, okay.
So, Q, um, so I got the paints in.
I was told I need to use a medium the thin out the paints.
What do you recommend?
You can use water because those are water-based acrylics.
So you can.
I'm not even an artist.
I would just say, I would just say water?
Water?
That sounds right.
You can also use like flow improver or a medium, but, um, but the cheapest solution here is just,
just water.
And water works just fine.
You can use distilled water.
If, uh, if you know, if you're like, um, tap waters to, um, uh, mineraly, what have you, um, or like, um, or like, um, calcified, then, you know, like, it's all, um, um, calcified, then, you know, like, it might be too, too, too, too much. Uh, distilled water is not a bad, it's not a bad choice. I use a filtered water, like my Brito filter. I use that. Um, but, uh, if you could distill, do not drink it.
Yeah.
Okay.
My fiance has a, has, um, I have to pick up distilled water every once in a off for my fiance's a CPAT machine.
Yep.
Okay.
Okay. So, I will, my current fascination right now.
Yeah, yeah. Let me know.
Is, you like me. I mean, I don't, I do not play smash.
Here's some money for your pain.
Thank you for the five, Pinker.
Thank you so much. I appreciate you. Thank you, Pinker.
I will say my new fascination right now is a two different things. One is a game called Tainted Grail.
Yeah. I have been playing the shit out of it recently. I think it's a lot of fucking fun. And also, honestly, uh, probiotic soda isn't that bad. Yeah.
What? What? What? What? What's probiotic soda?
Yeah. So, occasionally I will just buy random impulse buys if I like the label.
That says what it boils down to, if the label pulls me.
There, I saw one. It's called Ali Pop.
Oh. Oh, I think I've seen that one. Yeah. It's called Ali Pop. Yeah. It's called Alipop.
And it's one, this is one called like Crisp Apple, and it's fucking delicious. I, yeah.
I didn't know.
probiotic soda was a thing until recently. I didn't know he was even around.
I didn't know that was a thing either.
Like I, what's it called? You ever like go to, like Walmart and you look like the yogurt section?
And there's like one like yogurt that looks like almost like a, like a, it's shaped like a drink.
But it's like, a keifer? I don't know a kefir. Maybe. But like, but like when you drink it, it just tastes really weird.
Yeah, people are like, yeah, that, that's, that's sigh, asshole.
You could tell everyone's an adult here because they talk about off-brand soda.
Yeah.
R.C. Cola.
Yeah.
R.C. Cola.
All right.
Okay.
I like, that was funny because we almost actually bought a case of R.C. Cola because soda was on sale for five dollars for a 12-pack.
And me and my wife were like,
holy shit 12 packs for $5.
All right, chat, I'm going to be on the picture for a little bit because I'm eating because I'm starving.
But we're going to get back into it. Let's go.
So was the minor activity in both servers the only thing that gave off red flags or was there any other behavior?
Oh, there's way more.
I remember in the Hagems community, there was a lot of predators, like rumors and such.
And they got exposed like monthly sometimes.
Like every other month there would be another one.
And they would never get a knowledge by the team.
And it was just horrible.
Um, like, um, it's not a guy for your personal real quick, but at some point, I was groomed by someone in there.
Um, I exposed them like, two years ago. Um, um, that is not great.
Um, I posted it in the server, like, I made a Twitter thread.
I just, Jesus Christ, this is not okay.
I posted it in there. Well, I had my, I asked my, like, my friend to post it.
Because I didn't want it to do it to do it myself because I was a public figure at the time in the league of community.
Um,
And I got delete like instantly because it was just drama targeting the brand.
So to summarize, it's not abnormal for creditors to be attracted to online spaces that maybe make fandom content.
But it's kind of scary when the mod team is bearing it.
One of them really got arrested for having CP in their possession.
Okay, uh, because Pixel Kitty, you are in here.
Was the mod team aware prior to this regarding this person who got arrested?
Thank you so much, Midgmatic.
The schematic became a member.
Thank you. Midge, Matick celebrates two months of membership.
Oh, piss. I didn't realize I got this.
Saluting face emoji. Gay rights.
Thank you, Midge.
Um, yeah, there's just one guy that got arrested from like 34 counts of child.
Like, too.
Yeah, he was kicked, I think.
But nothing, uh, nothing publicity was ever said.
All right.
This is going to be a follow-up question.
Was I didn't find out until, until years later.
How do I ask this the correct way?
Was any of it was any of their allegations or, excuse me, crimes, was it ever according to the stuff that happened in your discord?
Or in their discord, the reason why I ask is there's a potential, I'm giving the lightest of leeway here that if anything they got was using a criminal investigation, they can't
tell anybody.
But I'm just asking to make sure.
Blackflower, thank him for the four months.
Bookfula became a member.
Bookfluwis celebrates four months of membership.
I am so lost.
I jumped in at the wrong time, crying face emoji.
We, us too. Thank you so much.
Oh, one quick.
Uh, Q, what was the flavor of the soda?
The olip.
Oh, uh, crisp apple.
Why?
Thank you.
I just wanted to see if I could get like,
the giant.
Sorry.
So,
so DA is UK-based.
This happened in the VA.
Okay.
And they were removed.
I mean,
this still bothers me that they hit it.
This is part of the problem I have with this.
I don't know how they were going to address this because they can't.
I.
Y.
y.
Y, y, y, y'ay.
How many people are in the DA community servers?
Is it, like, thousands of people?
Yeah, how big is D.A. games?
Literally, I found out about them three hours ago.
I've never heard of them before.
The internet is a big fucking place.
Oh, you got to be shitting me.
Well, have you tried their vintage flavor.
Ash.
2.27 million people.
Basically, if it didn't, as Kiljoy says,
basically if it didn't involve the server,
there's no requirement to disclose.
There was any involvement in the server.
It might be privacy laws preventing disclosure.
Again, I think we're all kind of in the agreeance that, like,
something should have happened.
But I don't know if disclosing it would have helped because
did the people who were groomed ask for it to be disclosed.
That's the other thing to, like, again, I do think they were playing the business politics game.
But there's, like, there's a lot of unknowns we don't know.
It's part of the problem in the framing of this.
Some of it is intentional to save face.
Some of it, I don't know.
It's why sometimes you don't always talk about everything in a server,
but what you can prove.
Three years ago, and they never got a knowledge right at the Eiter.
He was arrested at 2020, just got out now just for possession, not grooming.
Well, you don't get, the grooming is not a crime.
It's everything that is done afterwards is the crime.
Pretty prominent in the server?
He would make animations.
He was really popular.
And he was kicked once that came out at the very least, right?
We don't know. We don't know.
There's a probability he probably was.
Okay.
Okay, so Pixel Kitty is confirming that this person was kicked from the server.
We need to make this very clear that Pixel Kitty is live telling us that this person in question was kicked from the server.
But they do have a thing where, like, if you suspect someone being weird, they will investigate and kick them, but.
Tusky tipped one dollar.
As someone who stocks and consumes olipop, anyone who drinks it is based in my books.
Now that being said, when does bread go bad?
When you yeast expected.
What do you call the horse next door?
A neighbor.
One bird cannot pun alone, but two can.
Okay.
It's always three.
You always have free every time.
It's not really badly.
Like, from personal experience, it's so bad.
Like, I tried to come forward about my groomer, like, way before I posted about it.
And they're like, hey, you have proof of this?
And I'm like, no, I deleted those chats because.
Okay.
So, okay.
This is the person in question about the DA leak stuff.
I'm going to be very honest.
If they had no proof of this, and it sucks to say this, and no discussion, no anything, how, what is the option that DA, this is not even defending VA games?
What is anybody supposed to do?
If a claim is made.
and there's no, like, evidence to it?
How do they, how do we deal with it?
Like, and it sucks, and it sucks to say that.
I need to be very real.
This is why you never have kids in your fucking discord.
But again, the question is, if they don't,
if they see no correspondence, it's just weird.
The anona groomer was not removed.
He just left on his own.
Anon's a groomer.
Thank you.
Again.
I'm with you on that.
My question is how are they supposed to know if they don't see any evidence of said facts?
It becomes the issue.
Again, I believe this person.
I'm trying to, I have to see the problems in this framing.
I don't see that shit.
And they were like, okay, you can get them back.
I was like, okay, how can't fucking help me because I was paticking.
And they were like, figuring out yourself.
So you're going to tell the child.
in a panic state to just figure it out themselves or else we're not or otherwise.
You should never be in that situation.
You never have kids in your server.
Yeah.
He was still allowed to interact with the Twitter account and stuff.
There's a thread showing all that.
Yeah.
We are going to go into all the DA game stuff.
I'm just highlighting it because these are the things Kim is missing.
And because Kim is missing this, I can start poking holes in your testimony.
holes that are never provided answers to.
That's the problem.
And again, I want to make this very clear.
Fuck Will and DA games.
You fucking freaks.
If all this is true, fuck you all.
You shouldn't have kids in your server, period.
But my issue is that without its inclusion,
this should have been three videos, by the way.
Without its inclusion, I can poke holes in the testimony because I don't see things.
And if I don't see it, it doesn't exist.
Sorry, that's just how it works on the internet.
We're not going to do anything.
It's really weird.
I don't know.
I'm getting heated.
I'm sorry.
No, it's okay.
It's just so fucking dubbed to me that they don't do the barement.
Or just like, don't have a server that's open to minors.
It reminds me of last year when he was seeing a set list for Momokon.
And he has these killer robots and he was going to describe in detail how they kill people
and how I was asking, Michael, shouldn't you put a content warning on there.
Since most people are like coming from the DA game stuff.
And he laughed at me.
He was like, no, why should I do that?
I have a song called Mr. Dirty Balls playing.
People should know that we're not for kids because that's all this playing.
And learning the next day, he had to add content one anyway.
So I just kind of like throw up my hands like, okay, you had to add one anyway.
So why were you throwing a fit about it?
Yeah.
He gets upset at, like, the smallest things ever had shown away.
So it's really hard to like come forward about bigger stuff too.
Were any of the other team members supportive when you came forward?
Because my understanding is that when you go to Wilford stuff, he kind of.
Mom con is all ages is an all age con by the way.
Yeah, but you discord servers.
shouldn't be for all ages.
I'm sorry.
I, like, unless you're paying,
Momokot,
unless you are paying people
to run your Discord server, and I really
mean paying people,
you do not do that.
Sorry.
It just doesn't work this way.
Kind of brushes it off.
Well, he either brushes it, brushes it off, or
he sends HR.
Um, that person that's currently HR, um, usually it will just go into your DMs just be like,
yo, don't bring negative stuff to Will.
You cannot handle it right now.
Lala, dude, you got a few?
Sure, if it's not negative.
It is a tiny bit.
Depends on your interpretation.
It's about the messages you sent Will about feeling like you turned the conversations of pronoun,
sexual, and how it's upset you.
The blank, okay.
right now I'm going to come forward on his behalf and being blunt.
He really can't handle this.
I, okay.
I don't fucking, okay.
I called Will a charmer.
Oh, fuck.
I don't give a fuck about you people.
There's no gender neutral or queer people being sexualized.
Also, again, what the fuck is this?
There don't have minors in your server.
Don't have minors in your server.
How fucking hard is this?
You avoid all these issues.
He never handles it, so it's frustrating as hell.
And they just made them HR this year.
Is the HR person a public figure?
Not anymore.
They did have a Twitter account, but when the gripes I have is that as an HR person, they live with him.
They're friends with everyone in there, so when it comes to certain situations like yours, technically...
Your HR should not be a public figure.
Your HR should not live with you.
Him and the DAA team got removed from the 2025 Momocom guest list from what I've heard.
Thank you, Jen Kino.
I'll be handling that because they're not a mutual third party.
Does she have, like, a social presence?
Like, is she known for being friends with Will?
Yes.
To some degree, like, if, to some degree, she is public when, like, when you go on the day against live stream,
she will be there as a moderator.
Things such, like that.
It seems like the running thing is, Will you can handle whatever the conflict is because he can't address it.
Yeah, pretty much.
Okay, so let's talk about some troublesome behavior you stalk from Will.
But didn't, doesn't K.P.
have in her contract that she uses professionals and they, I'm so tired of this.
Also, professionals get paid.
That's what I'm saying.
Hold up.
I'm going to let it play.
I have to get something because my saliv is leaking.
Damn it.
I know we dated a minor in 2015, and there was a lot of end slurs and a lot of anti-semitic slurs.
Great stuff.
Do you have any antidotes or things to share on top of that?
Just recently someone did some more digging when they found out on a Lysium clip.
It was a thing.
Oh, my God.
You left at the worst possible time.
What drove you to make this document?
Was it the predator thing?
Like, what was the straw that broke the camel's?
Was it the porn site?
It was the porn.
It was...
Gigi's Italian man.
I hate you!
Just put your sound in the microwave like Diesel does.
We don't have time, Ash.
We don't have time for that right now.
Oh, right.
I hope KP suffers.
I'm going to say it.
Fuck it.
You want trouble?
I'll give it to you.
No.
No, I, I, I'm not.
I don't want to be mean.
Yes.
Yeah, DA and KP have removed,
have both been removed from Momocom this year,
according to the next public thing.
Thank you, thank you.
I missed it.
I'm working on a thumbnail for my stream.
Yeah, sigh, we're not doing this.
We're not going back.
And you just were like, fuck it.
We need to write all this stuff down.
I think it was just generally,
we were frustrated about a lot of things.
We talked to each other,
and then we found about the MSW stuff.
We decided, nope, these needs to get out there.
That's pretty much how it might.
We stumbled across it as well.
We were literally just messing around and as when we found it.
And thought, well, this doesn't look right.
And we did some digging.
And we were like, this isn't right at all.
So you went back through Will's history and saw the anti-Semitism.
And there's one point where he justifies using the N-word as a white.
I'm going to say it.
British people are racist.
Bold, truly.
I also don't care about the N-word usage.
I don't give a fuck.
Do I use it?
No.
It's not my word.
No.
I'll be, okay.
Pixel Kitty is not at you directly.
But like when you can't lead with pedophilia and sharing like hardcore porn and a server and a server.
And.
And then come back to the, oh, but he used slurs.
You got to reverse that order.
Listen, I, basically, I get it.
This is not, this is not, I don't use this, I'm not going to use it.
But again, nobody cares when you're alleging this guy as a pedophile.
U.S.
See the chat.
You already know.
And I thought that was really sad.
So what was the response when released the first version of the document?
Well, the first version came out like really weird, but like we tried to get like fans to see it.
So we made a fan account and then like, no anything to release it out.
It was stupid.
That one went really mad.
And like, you can say more about that.
like it affected you mostly.
Yeah, it just went really badly.
We were still fans at that point, and we were just, like, really hardbroken.
So the dock was very emotionally charged.
And it had, and it just had stuff in it in there that didn't really need to be in there.
And then also, after he came out trending on Twitter, like two mods, one of them was this,
HR person came to me, and they put me in, like, a group chat, and they told me, you have to fix this.
And I'm like, I'm in a college class.
I can't fix this right now.
But I saw to do this anyway.
And after a couple more screenshots came out, the HR person was like, is there anything else that's going on?
because if there is, I'm much away from flipping switches and ruining lives.
And I was really scared at that point.
rightfully kicked me during the friend group because I was so scared what was going to happen to them.
Pistol goody, uh, but don't know after all this, y'all are fine with me.
I know that that's why I fucking apologize.
You threw yourself under the bus.
I threw nobody under the bus.
I don't care if I get exposed now.
I don't have anything to lose anymore.
All I had was DA Games.
I'm refraining from mentioning either of one of your names all the time.
Ah.
Ah, okay.
again like i said like if interviewing you mat like interviewing you mattered all of all of this should have been disclosed first you will probably also should have been interviewed separately interviewing you two at the same time is kind of
Lala has talked about being a farmer hinting she might have done some things which scared me at the time okay many such cases i'm sorry
Oh, many such cases.
Does she also ask for charity money?
Does she have pots?
Many such cases?
Oh, she's gonna fucking kill us one of these days.
I just ended up doing the runner to bus because I was so scared and under pressure.
Like, we changed the password for Twitter account and everything because we could not have this goes out.
Yeah, and when the second talking came out, there was done.
Thank you for subscribing, singing guy.
I am also a singing guy.
But this is a different story.
for a different day.
I was basically confirmed that was what happened and I put out my secondary statement on Twitter because the initial apology, well, to quote, unquote, apology that I made the first time, it went, it went through those two people and it was heavily sanitized.
They wanted me to say he apologized in BC, he did this, he did that, and I was supposedly there to witness when he did those things.
Again, we did go through your apology.
We'll be going over this part as well as the other part in our DA game stream. So stick tune for that, I guess.
And as a result, people started disregarding everything is fake.
And so I wanted to make that secondary statement to explain that nothing was fake.
And I was pressured into writing something I didn't really believe in.
And then later, those two people would come forward in private and apologize to me for doing that.
So let me get this straight, guys.
So two official DA games ambassadors, mods, whatever you want to call them,
basically try to legally threaten you to formally apologize or else, Waggy Finger.
Is that basically what happened?
Pretty much.
Is H-Barr person? She's scraped about being a former Kee farmer and, like, digging stuff up about people.
So I know she had a capacity to do those types of things.
Those people on their websites do.
And I don't want that to happen with me.
I don't want that to happen to me and the other people who were working.
Yeah, I was especially scared.
I was especially scared because they will commission me.
Like, what if they saved the packaging?
I send his outfit in and have my address.
Like, I was scared as fuck.
So I logged you out because I could not have what happened.
Yeah, that's cool.
So what happened after you released a second doc?
Did anyone come after you or try to have you reprimanded?
There was this, it was really weird.
Like, this time it went okay.
Like, we posted it on the Reddit and stuff.
And it actually lost some reaction.
It was really cool.
But there was also this one person that either was the HR person or someone pretend to be HR person,
who still haven't figured it out.
Because the HR person has a,
how to stopping me specifically.
And they...
Hello, it's Lala yesterday.
After your second round of exaggerations and lies, we'll hurt him.
Oh!
Boo fucking who!
Fuck, well.
Remember, chat.
It's never across the street.
You know which direction.
Don't do that, please.
Fuck me.
That's the fake Lala, by the way.
Wow. Wow.
It's a fucking pedophile. I don't give a fuck.
Go to Nance jail. I don't know what to tell you.
I don't know why this wasn't disclosed.
Yeah. That's a good point.
Again, it's like K.P. did a really bad job at this.
See, I said like you were going to sue me.
Yeah, I remember that. It was just horrible.
Another thing is the second doc, it just kind of inspired someone they go through to server logs.
And they found that people like Chris were going through and deleting all the waste of stuff that they said.
And they found videos.
They made a whole archive.
just going back, that, that they were like just going back and deleting things.
So Chris got caught being racist and sexist just in general?
Yeah, pretty much.
So before I move on to the last question, can...
I don't even want...
I didn't like any of that.
We're going to move on.
We're moving on, chat. I'm not fucking looking at any of that shit.
You guys give some context as much as you can from the anonymous Chris story that you know...
Oh, it's the fake account that was accused of being me?
Oh, God. I feel bad for you guys.
So that's actually my best friend, who's on anonymous story.
So this is how to deal with her using.
her name which had the word animal in it okay what she's actually came from that like it we covered this
why did they say that why did they think it was appropriate to say that to a 14 year old they knew was 14 what took me off
guard is that the 14 year old had met will before it was that at a convention yes it was out of
yeah there's okay okay cool at least that's pretty yeah there's fucked up censoring there too yeah there's
fucked up censoring in this entire video i'm pretty sure she knocks some of y'all
I'm pretty sure she leaked people who wanted to be anonymous.
And for what it's worth, I am sorry about that.
I will say this, this is just me.
If I don't hear a call or a public VC and there's only one person cooperating the story is very hard to believe.
I apologize.
but that is a standard on the internet.
Again, not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
I think a lot of these allegations have a lot of weight against them and it should have been its own video.
Yes.
Reminder that KP, in addition to hyping up how excited she was for this exposed also signaled
how emotionally exhausting and draining this was for her.
Yeah, she did do one docs.
Here, I have that tweet too.
Be crazy if I also have that tweet, right?
It would be crazy.
Oh, chat, this is what I do.
This is what we do for you.
We suffer.
Right, Greg?
Unfortunately.
I'm so tired.
I'm so, and I'm so drained.
This required a lot of emotional energy for six months,
and I'm just so ready for it to be over.
It's all just sad.
I want to highlight everything I see right now is other people doing the work for you.
Be prominent as a person in a community, so it would be weird if they didn't know what she was.
Is she still prominent?
No, she got banned, and now she fucking hates their guts, so.
So the whole team has a controlling presence with their fan basin on social media, right?
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
So my last question is, unless you guys wanted to add anything else as far as any general stories or experiences or anything?
Is there anything?
So as I mentioned before, I was a fan artist, and at the beginning of Iris, I would make
interpretations of characters, and we would go on the chat and say, these interpretations
give me anxiety because now I'm scared and not be able to live up to these expectations.
Let me backtrack. What is Iris? Is that a song they've done? I'm not familiar with our content,
really.
It's one of his IDs.
Yeah, we VC today and made it clear that this cannot be fixed. She did not make a proper apology.
Like, Retool isn't going to fix this. You can skip this. So nothing more. Yeah, no,
nowhere. I've been going through. Yeah, it's a dystopia thing. There's a lot of characters,
but not a lot of lines.
So what a lot of people like myself did was like, let's make a design on his game based on this very vague description that he had.
And people would also make covers of songs too and you'd get high amounts of anxiety.
And in some cases, you'd call it defacing.
Like, I got caught off.
There's a side note, but this, this child continues to lick my kneecap.
I do not know what she sees it. Please say dog.
Dog, dog, dog, sorry, dog, dog, dog dog.
What the fuck is wrong with you? I know, I'm sorry. It's the dog. It's the dog. It's the dog.
Oh my God. Oh, gee.
I have to fucking. It's.
That's my baby.
Or say fur baby.
goddamn you.
Yeah, whatever.
Clip, how fuck you!
How would you come on, huh?
I dare you.
And then on top of that, a bunch of other artists, I apologize.
And like, yeah, we're so sorry.
The Seinfeld bit was originally AI.
Oh, that's hilarious. I don't really care about that.
I mean, if she doesn't pay her, she doesn't pay your editors.
Yeah.
I can imagine they're not paying.
There's a legitimately malicious people who want everything for themselves,
I also apologize. Oh my god, I don't care, Will!
Didn't know what's trying.
I would suck you nuts.
The stuff upset you so much and never said anything until now.
And he made it a will in his server for a while that you can post interpretations,
or you can post covers with more than one instrument or more than one vocal track.
Oh, guys, you could fucking make art of us all the time.
If you go into the Discord, we have fucking full spreadsheet,
character sheets of our fucking art.
Do it. Please make it.
Now change that rule. I heard from somebody.
She banned me from the server a little bit ago because I've also shown that her friend Courtney claimed victims were...
Okay, we're four hours in. Chat. You need to stay with me.
Because I'm going to rip Courtney a new asshole.
I'm going to be really fair about this.
I'm going to rip Courtney an entirely new asshole later in this video.
That's still in there. He just changed the rollback to where it was before. He can do that again.
I can't get over that because that's the stupidest fucking thing.
He should be happy that people are making fan art because they enjoy the thing.
It's like he's punishing his fans.
Yeah, even on Twitter is almost asking about it.
He's like, well, I'll go forward and making more character designs when I'm sure that they won't be tampered with.
And just a lot of extreme words or stuff that wasn't extreme.
Wait, Lala's, I don't care about this.
Lala again, we will go over this during the DA game segment.
And that was devastating to me.
And when I was telling him, you know, it was really hurt when he said that, he was like, well, don't have a cow, it's not that bad.
But that really acknowledged.
Oh, yeah. I'm a head mod and was called in to get Courtney to stop.
The channel got deleted so I can't even show it.
Wait, Pixel Kitty.
Are you also a mod for KP or you were a mod for DA games?
I'd actually need to understand where that is.
Singing Guy, thank you so much, by the way.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Singing Guy became a member.
I believe.
Okay.
But they'll correct me.
I'm trying to double check what your, like, part of the point is the tie.
Like, the DA games, like, I know that like mods were interacting with you.
Yeah, I was a.
mod for KP quickly, though.
Courtney left KP's discord with KP wouldn't let her fist fight people about the video.
Listen, I'll fucking, listen.
If Courtney wants to come on, I'll fucking fistfight her all day.
I don't get a shit.
It's a four-hour reminder that we're so evident the fucking Sam for-spark part.
I was going to bring it up.
I'm like, I'm, I'm, guys, how long have we been at this?
What is a saber spark coming out?
Hey, go, Kada, what's up?
We're waiting.
We're four hours in Q.
We're the Omni Man.
We're gonna get there, chats.
You wanted to see all the fucking receipts to the leading up of this fucking video?
I told you we got him.
I didn't know I felt or how any of these other people felt about that.
That's what probably he generally has.
Like, when someone comes forward to him about how he hurt their feelings.
It's like, that it's not that bad.
Like, bro, you hurt someone.
Yeah, I call.
It's so dumb.
I was called to get for me to stop.
Awesome.
Okay, to recap.
So I was going to say it sounds like it's pretty bad between the allowing predators to be in their spaces and not really doing anything about it
or threatening people who make fan art or Will dating a minor and Will looking up child.
I remember seeing that because I thought that was the worst thing Will specifically had done.
And then Chris just had the behavior of being sexist and racist and racist too and grows with minors.
So what would you guys like to gain from coming forward on a bigger platform and speaking?
Oh, this is a perfect example.
Uh, uh, what's what's it?
Pixel are you here?
Was Chris involved with the covering up of pedophers?
and or involved directly with sending information like that to minors.
Because we've seen a lot of screenshots of Will sending Lollicod and like fucking zoo art.
But I need to know, I, the Sonic characters, I'm not fucking touching with a 10 foot pole, calling it
zoo or not. I'm really not touching that with a 10 foot pole.
But I would like to know if Chris was ever, that was all in Chris's server.
Why didn't she say that?
Why didn't she say that then?
That then?
This video is presented so fucking badly.
If that was in, if Chris was in charge of the server directly where Will was sending things, why is that not in this video?
I'm a crash out. I'm a crash out.
Do it after. Do it after. We gotta get to do this. We get four more hours.
About your stories.
So my original goal would be like acknowledgments of this stuff happening, but like, I don't think that's gonna happen, like, ever being real sick. I don't know exactly what I want anymore. Like, I just want this stuff out there, I guess. That's all I can do.
What I personally think is Will needs to take a break from the internet because this sounds really unhealthy from a third party perspective.
No, he should go to fucking jail!
He should go to jail. Having pedophilia is illegal in his fucking country.
The fuck!
Honestly, she might, no, she never did. This is the second or third time I've listened to this statement.
She never mentions that it's specifically Chris's server.
I'm locked in on this video.
right now. I am annoyed. This video could have been so much fucking better. She fucked it up.
This is going to sound really mean, but I don't...
Again, also remember, our Discord is 18 plus. I find out that you're a minor. You are getting
kicked and blocked. Nice knowing you, but there are no minors in our Discord. I swear to God.
I understand that this is like a lot of stuff.
but please if you're a minor you're not even supposed to be here there's an 18 plus stream
please respect that.
I think he's capable of taking a break on the internet. I mean he went on a camping trip for his family and he was on his phone and was in place calls the entire time
so even then when he was supposed to be out in nature he wasn't taking break there's multiple times he said he leaked Twitter
yes I should also remember I should also say that the miners asked the not other myers holy fuck the editors
did not want to be credited Christian was only in the chat not involved in the creation of this video
I believe someone caught him lurking because he was pretending to be off the Twitter.
Then like he retweet something and then quickly unreadreaded it.
He's on Instagram mostly now.
And even now he's pretending to like be offline on Discord.
Something I've noticed to is that people who enable him are dependent on him, like the HR person who's a roommate of his and is dependent on the channel's income in order to live.
Okay, okay, okay.
It doesn't matter if they lived with him.
Listen, I don't like the Lala person.
doesn't matter if Lala lived with Will or not.
HR was always going to be dependent on the income of the channel.
He doesn't have a job outside of HR 48 games.
I think we don't know because they're not a public figure.
We don't have any kind of...
HR shouldn't be a public figure.
For the love of God, they shouldn't be.
And I'll be honest, Lala sounds a lot more like a head moderator than an HR person.
Can you imagine living with HR?
But I think the only thing they do in their life is sit in the wheel's house and send out angry emails to us.
This is what the kids call an allegation, something we don't know if it's true, but it's based on a theory and evidence.
Yeah, she used to have a job, like, as a child care worker, but she stopped.
And then she did, like, our commission.
Yeah, and then she did, like, art commissions for a while, but then she, like, fucked up her wrist.
So I don't know what she can do if she has a job.
Sounds like a healthy work environment.
So the only time they acknowledge anything wrong is when I retweeted one of the emails a couple of weeks before this recording,
and they were like, Chris is taking a break.
Chris is taking hiatus, which I think means we're going to wait until this blows over,
because we're not going to show you any proof that Chris went to any HR training.
dead wing dork called kp and a walking hr person earlier i think that's the funniest i fucking i i'm a say this right now if dead wing dork ever sees this i would love to talk to that motherfucker
every time we agree on something i like him dead wing dork if you see this let's get a let's get a fucking beer together
if you drink you just said that because he's saying along with you yes he sang along with me one time and it's fucking great
if it wasn't for the dumb bro doodles could have handled this better
oh no you got time for doodles ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha oh yo fuck me i'm not go out on a limb is that he did not go through
any training i burn hi burn was only made hr this year d a is only four people even emailing and doing
n d was against you guys don't have to reach out deadwing dork for me
I'm just saying if you ever sees this clip I grab a beer with the motherfucker he seems like a cool dude
who's dead wing dork uh he's another like commentary YouTuber guy that reacted to our dan's burst thing
um and like we've we've uh we we share community members uh and i know uh modrina likes deadwing um
and uh we share some community like some like pretty cool community members and i've seen some of his streams
and he's really funny i don't know what training he would have done if there wasn't
I think he had, I think we had a timeline down.
Hey, we're 200 viewers.
We haven't been this big in a while.
But thank you guys so fucking much if you guys want to like the video.
Uh, and subscribe to be fucking awesome.
We do a lot of research here.
We do a lot of critiquing.
Uh, we also do like a variety of streams.
Uh, we've done stuff on, uh, nuclear, like nuclear and hazardous, uh, fucking paints.
We've done, uh, weird, uh, fucking, uh, pedophilia book talk thing.
of boobers.
Uh, I found you very uncomfortable with an ASMR react stream.
We did an ASMR react stream.
I yelled at a pedophile once and made him fucking cry for his mommy.
Can you guys raid yet?
Yeah.
Yes.
We've been rating.
Yeah, we're over a thousand.
At 500 you can.
500 you could raid, yeah.
And just sadly, like, when we raid, most people are offline.
Yeah.
And what she was saying I got trained?
Like, at what point during that timeline would he be getting trained?
Thank you.
And keep in mind for those who don't remember, I had the original conversation with H.
are a year ago. And I was feeling antsy because I wanted to make a video for a while and we were waiting
for the right time. Lady you're cool in the worst. And I'm like, this would have been great a year ago.
But ideally, it doesn't sound like the team is even safe to make content because of their influence around others.
Like Will himself needed a 17 year old when how old was Will?
22 to 23.
Again, this is stupidly legal in the UK. I hate it. I hate it. I need to. We do need to make that fucking, like,
that statement known. It's not to defend him. It's an out he would use.
Ugh, great. So when you date a 17 year old, regardless. I did scream a two peddle.
allegedly. You can't, well, yeah.
Well, you have to go to kick to watch that stream.
I saved a clip of Deadwing crashing out on this video. Thank you. Thank you. You should know better.
Like Chris telling the story regardless of when it happened, he should know better.
So I guess we'll hope for the best. I think at the very least if there's going to be any changes,
they have to show proof in a plan or else. Okay. You want to know what actually pisses me off?
I'm going to crash out right now. It's going to fucking piss me off. KP. You cannot say,
oh, I wish for them to get better. I wish for this. You want career and life ruination.
Stand on business, bitch.
If you want them to not be in this space anymore, stand on fucking business and say, I fucking hate their guts. I hope they fucking die.
Like, stand on business. Don't do this fucking, uh, uh, like, don't do that.
Stand on fucking business. Because this whole video is I want these people to suffer.
If you want people to suffer, that's okay. Want them to suffer. Just be honest about it.
Holy shit. It's annoying me so much. It's fucking pissing me off.
Stand on bitchness is correct.
I'm so fucking frustrated. I hate it. Just stand on business.
A public apology is probably good start.
Yeah, that's like a big thing. Like, you would think that nobody even believe what the A.
are saying, but they do.
Like, even when you show it's really, like, no, it's fake. It's fake.
like they're just haters like their fan base is very um they just really want to believe that they're good people when they're
it's that the fan bases do that it's only if you cultivate a fan base of constant accountability to the point where you fuck up
minorly and they like hate you forever.
sigh thank you thank you kp karen too close to the son oh my god
so fucking stupid you're literally
I can't.
Or not because
Lord knows why, actually.
It's because he built up with their social relationship with them.
True.
Even with the lolly thing when we told people about that,
they were saying...
Stop! Why did you show it again?
Mm-mm.
You know, like when I want to talk to victims, I'm gonna just show off a list of materials.
because, you know, that's totally an appropriate thing to do when talking to victims.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I need to know something.
I, okay.
I need...
Pixel Kitty, I need to ask you a very fucking real question.
Did she get those uncensored?
Does she have the screen shots uncensored?
Did she censor them herself?
You got it.
Like, you can't.
You can't tell me otherwise.
Are those...
Did she get those uncensored?
Okay, those are for the dog.
Okay.
If you make a dock like this again, please.
Censor it thousand times better.
Every twenty-something you wrote telling you all his deepest secrets and stuff and all his child of trouble is and you feel closer to him.
Oh, God, okay.
Uh, thank you for 100% of the little will taking care of me.
You're such a light.
I don't know who this is.
Who are all these people?
None of these...
Okay, I'm gonna be honest.
None of these people matter.
She realized her audience was falling asleep, so she flashed the corn emoji.
Fuck me.
Thank you, thank you.
Thank you.
Is Karri Khetai.
Thank you.
Just giving him support.
You're encouraged to look at his discourse at his status and see what state he's in.
Yeah, this doesn't matter because what you're doing is just highlighting.
We believe you when the public reception is, um, they, like, their audience believes them.
It was uncensored in the first dog.
God, he's no.
Oh, fucking God.
But he was like, no, I have to.
Wait.
In the dock.
Could you go as far as delete.
Yeah, because there was two docs.
There was the first doc and the second doc they made.
To delete the YouTube account because he was feeling bad.
And when you're put through that, we're not going through that.
I'm not going through that.
You want to feel like this person can't be bad.
I did all this for him.
I went through all this for him.
And I'm just sorry.
I'm getting really a bit heated here because again, I went through all of that.
And it's such an emotional turning thing to go through.
It's like, no, you shouldn't be doing this 13 and 18 year olds.
No, you haven't missed the saber spark stuff because we're not there yet.
We're still already close enough to it.
Oh.
This is what I mean by this video.
is really, really bad.
things like I'm literally my YouTube channel where yeah when I was bullied I got my head bashed in.
Yeah, I exactly like the worst example I remember is I think that he was going to, he said in his discourse of that he was going to kill himself because his fans were so fucking annoying.
You should have.
I don't have proof of this.
Sadly, I remember seeing it.
If you don't have proof of it, don't say it.
I'm sorry.
You can't please don't say it because he can deny and say I've never vented like that to my fans.
I vent about like bullshit, like this, but not like this.
Don't say that.
This is also on KP for leaving it in.
Yes.
I'm sorry for leaving it in.
Right, several times.
And then Chloe had a comment saying, no, guys, he's fine.
And then he just, like, he never deleted it afterwards.
And he didn't kill himself.
Okay, there we go.
Okay, that's different.
You probably should have led with that.
He's okay.
He posted several times, like, well, he was in a hospital as well.
Yeah, I remember this happening when I just was a fan.
Like, when I, like, 2018 and 2019, this was happening all.
And, like, I felt shoot.
Oh, no!
Sigh!
When are we getting to the Sabres Park Factory?
another half hour?
Another point in.
Okay, you want to know where the Sabrespark stuff comes in?
Here is everything.
We are
an hour and 13 minutes in.
The Sabrespark victim testimony
is an hour and 28 minutes in.
Oh.
That's how fucking.
That's how fucking four we are!
Oh, Las Coyoni, thank you.
Thank you.
I support a three slash five THS compromise for Lonericans where their vote is only worth 60% of my vote.
Thank you so much.
It's time to feed that dog.
It's time to feed the puppers.
It's time to give her treats.
It's time to feed the dog now.
At the uplock stream.
tonight. Yes, chat, you know what time it is. It's time to feed that dog. Oh, she's right there.
She's looking at you. She's activated. Or my treat father. Good girl. She's gotten a lot of them today.
Thanks to you, chat. If you want to do it again, you know what to do. I'm going to set the goal a little bit higher this time.
I wish I could share my cat. She's sleeping on the bookcase. Chat, it's not to feed that dog times three.
We're going to thank you guys very, very much for every tip that you give. Every tip you give to this
channel goes to our artists, our editors, and all the other people that make this channel very, very powerful.
And more importantly, it goes with dog treats.
Do I, do I, do I, dog treats now, dog treats are now attacks, right?
Fuck me. That's funny.
There's Pippie.
Why, and it's so fucking awful.
On that note, do you guys have any advice for people that are kind of in similar shoes that you were when you were finding all this stuff out?
Talk to people. Talk to people. Talk to people. Like, you're not alone going through this.
Like, please talk to people. Even people that are still fans. Like, talk to them.
it's okay if you don't feel okay going through this because it's fucking hard.
Having to sever a connection that feels so close and personal who is someone.
Go to the police.
Go to the fucking police.
For the love of Christ.
Tell an adult.
When you say talk to people, please go to an adult that you trust.
Don't go to the other Discord kittens.
Go to an adult that you trust.
that you trust?
I...
Oh my God.
Yes.
And don't go to K.P.
Whatever the fuck you do.
Go to an adult that you can trust
so you can report it.
Please tip the authorities.
Oh my God.
I want to fucking explode.
If you have allegations, don't...
Put them on the internet.
Go to the adults and police.
Yes.
Go to the...
People that can't really help you.
They can just like treat you like shit.
Or just tell you, oh man,
I feel bad for you, man.
Rain.
rain, but more importantly,
the national centers
of missing and exploited children,
you could also contact
and they can get on the ground services
with police officers.
Oh, God.
First you say,
then, you get out of there.
Yes. Don't tell Mama Max.
Yo, Spencer, you up.
Listen, Mama Max.
Real talk. Mama Max is a feeder.
That is the kink that Mama Max now has.
I don't want to think about that.
It turns out to your third person. It's okay. It's a
bad. It's okay. It's feel sad for things you lose.
Yes, this is fine. It's okay. Please go to the authorities. For the love of crime.
I agree to howheartedly, like just talk to people. Wanted to drive with factors that led me to become
friend again is that I talk to someone about everything that happened. And I suggest to just to talk to people who are outside of a server. Go to different servers. I just know that this is nothing.
Ah, yes, because the police have a wonderful track record of helping victims. I don't give a fuck what you think.
Alex.
Do you want to know something crazy?
These people will can
continue to abuse other children. They'll go by another fucking different discord name.
Go to the authorities. Go to the... We've literally discussed two people, two groups,
Rain and the National Centers for Missing and Exploited Children. They're not the police. They have people
who literally are volunteers. Are YouTubers your best solution? I'm sorry. Listen, I don't like
the pedal hunter shit. I've said this openly. You need to create police reports.
because of nothing else?
Like, they're not facing legal ramifications on the internet.
They're just getting fucking life ruination.
I've literally had...
Yeah, I'm about to say, like Layla Knight said, this is coming from a survivor.
I've had, like, people who have come to us talking about it.
Who have been like, because we've talked about this,
we had to do it one time here on this channel.
I agree about the organization, but the police hardly help each other.
But that's why we literally mentioned them.
Even if the police have a terrible track record, it needs to be a paper trail.
A lot of the...
Okay, so a lot of these things need to be paper trails.
This is not how things are supposed to be.
Like, I talked to a friend and nothing to do to a DA or anything, and they were like, that's not normal.
That's not something that should be happening on a regular basis.
Yeah, I think that's a good note to end on.
Therapy's good guys.
All right.
Well, I guess on that note, we can end.
Thanks, everyone for being here.
Thank you for the therapy.
I love you.
It is.
Like, it's so messy right now.
Like, on the Vagern's subreddit, currently they're like censoring.
Bingard.
Neo Nova.
Thank you so much for the Canadian 5.
Feed that dog.
Thank you.
Yes.
Like, obviously talk with your friends.
If you feel like something's going on and you feel very uncomfortable, that's usually
for the first place that this starts.
But you need to talk.
Like, if you're a child, please talk to a child, please talk to a real.
responsible adult that you trust.
You can get law enforcement involved, if not, like, other resources that they can investigate this.
That's like the whole issue.
Yeah, is this going to lead to a trial or an arrest?
Yeah.
Words, you cannot say the number 11 anymore.
Shit like not. It's stupid.
And if you try to post anything without context, I was trying to post context of what was going on earlier,
and they just deleted it immediately.
Yeah, they nuk it.
for me. Like, I go bands from Reddit.
As someone who took a media literacy course, this is not how you deal with backlash.
You apologize.
Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Like throwing your minor editor under the fucking bus.
Like fucking putting Seinfeld jokes in a fucking video about rape and pedophilia?
Yeah. Really? That media literacy course is working real well. You idiot.
You fucking moron.
Again, I don't hate KP. I actually really don't.
What the fuck are you saying?
But it's kind of hard.
Just what the fuck?
It's like, again, I try not to be me.
Like the streams of so Sabresport can appear.
I swear to Christ, if another huge YouTuber fucking appears in our chat when we're covering stuff about them, I will crash out live.
Again.
Yeah.
You have crash out every day.
You're, you're, you're...
Croucho.
Finders and predators in the same space, and you haven't really done anything about it.
These are really serious issues that aren't like an oopsie, so...
No. They're dealing with it so badly. It's embarrassing for them.
I know. I heard through a mutual friend that they originally weren't going to say anything, but they didn't see a reason for it.
They were like, oh, there's no reason for it. It's going to go away.
All right. Thanks, thanks everyone for listening.
Yes, thank you.
So there's three players in the Shakespearean tragedy. Chris, a former member of my production team who made up this gross story about me.
His first boss, a YouTube channel run by Will Ryan, and his second boss, another YouTuber.
How is Saberspark involved in that fucking planet? What?
What?
How is Saberspark involved in D.A. Games at all?
How?
You know, Feltre, I used to think you were seeing patterns, and I'm really starting to feel like KP seeing patterns that don't exist.
You motherfucker. I'm going to fucking throw out my salad. I've been losing my fucking losing my mind.
You microwave your salad?
Did you microwave your salad? Yeah.
No.
Now, Ash, the time is now. Bring up the salad.
No.
Yes, yes, is it.
Okay, so Hal revealed the queue that Diesel microwaves his salads.
FBS Diesel microwaves is salads.
It was all planned.
All strategic.
Yes, and I have put in, and Diesel probably doesn't even know that I added a new emoji.
No, he knows in the DEP or...
In the Diesel Discord.
He posted.
in the sticker.
Okay.
So the sticker is made by cat.
And it is a microwave with a salad side of it and a shoe on top of it.
Because Diesel said, if Hibleton showed up in the Mama Max video, he would eat a shoe.
Oh.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
All right.
That's fucking, I'm going to, fuck, I'm getting pissed off.
How is Cybersmith?
Oh my God, Sabresmith.
Oh my God, Sabresport.
Oh, Cybersmith.
Come back one day, buddy.
I miss you.
Okay.
Diesel said there was chicken in it, but like,
we want to just like put the chicken separately?
Is Diesel short IRL?
No.
He's my high.
We're both like 58, 5.9.
He's short.
Missk.
Will's Nazi races and anti-Semitic memes.
There's also, um,
races and anti-Semitic memes and never ends here.
Part three, how do you know.
Semetic memes.
There's also, um, races and anti-Semitic memes.
And never...
Oh.
Adam Sandler's anti-Semitic Christmas.
I'm sorry.
What the fuck?
Is it funny?
No.
Did I giggle when I saw it?
Yeah,
because it's kind of insane, actually.
What an insane thing to write.
Fucking Adam Sandler's anti-Semitic.
Oh my God, it is Cybersmith's birthday today.
That's right.
How did you love that?
Happy birthday, Cybersmith,
because I saw somebody post it the other day.
For those who don't know,
Cybersmith is the human pet guy.
In the infant,
see of this channel, he actually fucking rated us.
And we had a lovely interview with him.
And by lovely, he's still crazy, but I love him for it.
There's an edited version of the video.
He's crazy.
Yeah, the human pet guy.
Yeah, I fucking interviewed him live.
He tried to fight us live.
And I never left him.
He thought we were a political channel.
A political channel.
Gotcha him.
Do you know he still asks me every time?
And I just say thank you when he likes the post.
You're your best friends.
I know.
Oh, yeah.
That's why I'm wearing my starboard shirt.
You know, help him find him a dream lady.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's either a femme boy or a trans woman.
He likes and he needs, okay.
Catch, I'm just saying.
Cyber Smith needs to find the most outrageously racist and bigoted trans woman.
They do exist.
They're out there.
Clear white.
Briada Wu.
My God, if him.
and Brianna Wu hooked up.
No. It would be...
Brianna Wu is perfect for him.
As long as Priyna.
No, I was not going to say it.
Chris works for DA and Sabers Park.
I'd kiffy still does.
So that's why they're including Sabers Park.
Thank you singing guy.
We do know.
And she does, like, highlight it.
But that's part of the problem.
I was going to say, but to be fair.
Oh, yes.
Cybersmith has famously said on Twitter,
if you can market trans titty milk,
that trans identity would be more socially accepted.
I am not fucking kidding.
You know, whenever Chris said, I just keep on thing Chris in there.
I'm like, wait, no, wrong Chris.
My brain just keeps on going to that.
Yes, we do know.
So we were in the chat.
For those who are coming in late, we were in the chat.
We know Sabrespark was supposed to be, was added last minute.
We know specifically that he's only added because of the Chris connection.
ever ends here.
Part three, how DA games handled the Chris situation?
Badly.
Back to the Chris situation, the Dea Games team first responded to the situation privately in November of 2023.
Citing the issue had been resolved to their own satisfaction.
Also, wouldn't that be nice if we know where this email is from?
Not you posting it last year?
Would have been crazy if you posted this recently?
Like, with a date on it.
And that Chris didn't work for them at that time.
Even though there's proof that suggests otherwise.
And that will run...
I remember the general group of people who frequently hung out.
Blank was my main.
connection to the group in 2015.
And Chris and Will would frequently be in group calls with blank, with me and blank.
I wouldn't be surprised if Will heard it, but I can't say with 100% confidence that it's been
a long time, definitely more.
Again, this person can't say it in, like, confidence.
We'll get there.
Ryan was likely in the room to hear the story recounted at least once.
They continue to lie about my legal rights and basically put pressure on me to stay quiet about
everything.
We'll show you those emails in a second.
At a last ditch attempt, Dia Games attempted to send me...
D.A. Game sent you a cease and desist.
Lady.
Lee, your First Amendment rights don't matter when it comes to, like, a lawsuit.
Could it have been?
Because they...
The best part, they cited a lawyer, I called the office.
They had no idea what I was talking about.
Get Rucked. DA Lames.
Okay.
I don't know.
So I heard about the fake lawyer allegations from a credible source.
I don't know how true they are.
I will say that.
That's true.
Fuck you, D.A. Games.
But again, K.P.
They're sending you a cease and desist because they offered you private, like private information.
Your lawyer said, fuck off.
Well, you told your lawyer that you weren't going to do it and fuck them.
And then they would send you a C&D because you have private information about them doing internal investigations on another employee that maybe he doesn't know.
Yeah, you showed an A.
email related to the lawyer. Yeah, exactly.
Me a cease and desist. So we're going to go through some highlights of the emails here, but feel
free to pause the video and read them for any contacts that you'd like. Hi, Matilda, I was told to contact
you regarding the aficionados Chris case. Many months later. Hi, Matilda and the DA game team.
It's been three months since I last reach out. And I'm disappointed in the lack of urgency. I'm reaching out
one last time, discuss the issue in seller privately. Hi, K.P. Thanks for your patience. Chris informed us that
the recording between you and him was not consensual. Nonetheless, so we listened to the recording.
It wasn't. It actually was. It actually was.
wasn't. That's correct.
...hing ourselves and have determined that the two of you had already reached a resolution.
You will allow the actions of the past to be forgotten and forgiven.
It is also our understanding that all of this took place before Chris wasn't employed.
I would love to hear the full call because it did sound like she was like, okay, I'm mad at you.
I will never speak with you again.
Yeah, both are in one party states, by the way. Fucking.
God damn it. Like...
Well, if they're in one party consent state, that's fine.
Again, just, like, be very careful.
Boy of DA.
Hey, singing guy.
Thank you so much for the five, dude.
Thank you.
D.A also made a rule in the Discord server on April 19th
to not talk about the allegations to both Will and Chris or people will get warnings.
Thank you.
Uh,
people do that, actually.
To be fair, I could be mad at DA games,
but specifically, I remember in the,
Naomi King, what the fuck was the guy's name?
Daniel Green.
Daniel Green stuff. They did tell people
if you talk or ask about the allegations, you will be banned.
That is all, that's usually done for damage control and not people adding to the narrative.
Do I agree with it?
Their Discord server, they can do whatever the fuck they want.
Well, the thing was...
It's suppressing information. That's the problem.
I'm in Daniel Green's like Discord server before, like, all this happened.
And the mod.
basically create a new...
Oh my God, it's lazy bedhead!
Holy shit!
You're right!
I'm sorry!
I'm sorry, Ash.
This is the person that put out the Black Riffin video.
I'm sorry, Ash.
I didn't.
It hit.
It clicked.
Oh, God.
Honey, you're so much better than this video.
Oh my gosh, she's so much better than this video.
like her videos are really good.
I will say when
Naomi Keen put out her video,
it was very much a bloodbath in that Discord.
Yeah.
And a lot of mods may,
a contingent of people made their own discord.
A lot of people, like, joined there and left his...
apparently...
Another thing that did happen is that the fucking mods removed, like, a lot of Daniel's permissions,
and he had to, like...
Yeah.
He got upset and had to, like, tell them to give it back to him.
Yeah, they were like, you don't know if this is true.
You're...
Wait.
She shout...
I never finished the Black Griffin video yet.
She shouted them out.
Oh.
Great.
I will...
Okay, so I'll say this.
I can understand them not knowing.
to a degree. I'll be very real with you.
Black Griffin...
I'm sorry. Lazy Bedhead made that Black Griffin video.
She at least knows the connection to other people.
She would have done a lot of research.
The further I get into this video, the more I'm confused about who knew what.
The person who read the disclaimer probably knew jack shit.
But everybody else, I...
They stuck their name to it.
That's all I'm going to say.
I'm not blaming them, but they stuck their name to it.
Meaning that he was not under contract at the time of the incident.
Therefore, as a company, we do not have the jurisdiction to punish him in this situation.
God, she fucking took down so many people with this in a weird way.
Like, none of these people's careers should be affected, in my opinion, even KP's.
KP should get fucking slapped around for it, but like, I don't think she should get off the fucking internet.
But like, this is wild.
He has not breached contract.
I'm disappointed with the lack of action taken regarding these issues, and your lack of
the lorum in terms of how it reflects upon your company's priorities, values, and internal culture.
Also, regarding the recording and Chris's statement, the fact is, whether or not Chris engaged in the
activity, he openly spoke about doing it allegedly and calls involving his co-workers, post-having his
position within the company and after, as late as 2019.
This is highly inappropriate, morally unacceptable language to use when conducting oneself around coworkers,
much less when his attempt to convey approval from peers and a superior by presenting himself as a
hot take.
You're going to Gordon out his consent. No, hot take. It doesn't matter. They wouldn't fire him over it.
Here's the actual hot take that you guys are not going to want to hear.
If it didn't happen while he was actively working, nobody gives a fuck.
Yeah, that's also that.
Like, this is going to be the hard take that I'm going, again, all this should have been in the beginning of the video.
This is a harsh comparison, but like.
All of this should have been in the beginning of the video.
If a priest is at one error, can you get sent to a night?
other. That's all we say. But I like I'm gonna be I'm gonna be honest. Like,
Chris and Will are best friends. They bought him back after a few. Again, I, how do I,
how do I say this very kindly?
They're not gonna care. They're not going to care. They're not going to care. They're not going to care.
They should, but they're not going to.
KP should have included this in the front of the video.
KP should have included this in the front of the fucking video.
This would have been great to include in the Chris section.
The sexual harasser. If he was bragging about sexual misconduct.
Uh, Fresco, since I see you asking, DA game specifically will
is sexually inappropriate in and around minors.
things around the server.
Clearly, grooming and pedophilia took place in their server.
Whether they should have made it public or not that shit like that was going around on their server is up to your own discretion if you feel like it was it was, it's warranted or not.
The reality is, is, this is why you don't have kids in your fucking server.
At the end of the day, I do not care.
sexually inappropriate around minors.
What I mean in and around, I mean, in proximity to and around.
Conduct involving a minor, would that change your response?
Because if the answer is yes, you should be taking this seriously because sexual harassment is sexual harassment.
Because he was in their presence as around as constantly doing it and putting things that even if the minors were there or not, weren't there.
Oh, Pixel, since you're here.
the lolly con and other stuff, was that specifically in an NSFW thread?
Because I remember you said that there was one.
Or Anon said that.
Were those things in the NSFW thread?
Or is that in public spaces?
That does actually matter.
Because this also goes to my thing is that you should never have an NSFW thread that's locked.
If you have minors in your.
your server.
To employ Chris, you not only condone his behavior, but actively encourage it within your workplace-related settings.
At this point, it's a matter of safety for myself and members of our communities.
And me attempting to handle this issue privately is a courtesy, one that seemingly is not being honored,
and in fact, dismissed.
If no satisfactory result is brought about, I have no problems going public.
We will review this case again.
We will be doing a Black Griffin episode chat.
I have the document. We're going to be going over the document, the history of Black Griffin, and all of those
things.
That was in Chris.
is NSFW part of the server.
DA did have an NSFW channel in their server that got taken down in 2020.
So we have confirmation for Chris.
I just, I, I, I, I, fuck.
I'm pissed for a variety of reasons.
Um, that needed to be disclosed that that was in an NSFW chat that should have been locked from minors.
that should be disclosed again yes because the minor mods i know that actually needs to be disclosed though
because an excuse is going to be oh well my we don't know why this is this person's problem because
this errant mod did this i didn't know there were minors there it's supposed to be a locked channel that
that needs to be exposed. That needs to be disclosed.
We disclosed it, but it wasn't mentioned in the vid.
Fucking Christ, I hate her.
Our issues, I hope this comes off, Vixel, the our issues are not with you.
The structure of this video and the script is infuriating.
Because those are really key details.
Okay. Those are really key details because of Will and or Chris.
ever come back and they want to address these allegations, they can address KP's video and not the document you made.
Because KP is the larger person. And they'll be like, well, she deleted this video, but let's address the deleted video.
And if they're able to address the fact that they were like, oh, we didn't know a minor mod was there, oh, this person did this, this person did that, we didn't allow them in there. We didn't allow them in there.
they can go in and attack that.
Oh my God.
I fucking...
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Decide on appropriate disciplinary action.
This will be handled internally and confidentially, of course.
We would like to state that we do not represent Chris in any league.
Trevor, I just, I love you, dude. I don't know what the fuck we're doing anymore.
Capacity.
DA games as a company does not tolerate threats of defamation or liable.
If you go public.
Yes, KP will be.
be the scapegoat if these allegations don't work.
We have the right to pursue legal action. We will share the results of the investigation with KP,
but only on the condition that she signs a confidentiality agreement.
Port four, how Sabers Spark handled the Chris situation. Badly. Next is YouTuber
Saber Spark, who primarily makes animated theme content and generally seems not to care about the
situation unless he's listed as employer of Chris. I originally contacted Saber through his staff.
To be frank, let me know if Stephen will take this seriously and we can go from there. I already told them
it's coming down the pipe. He's talking to blank about it since he's currently working on a video
with Chris. But that's all I know right now.
no, is there something specific you want Sabre is slash isn't going to do?
If he's going to take action or not.
So this is really important.
If I'm understanding this correctly,
KP, this is 2023.
Oh, it just fucking hit me.
This is what she found out about Chris, about what Chris is saying.
This is about what Chris was saying.
This was never, she didn't include the stuff about TA games.
She's framing it as if she fucking knew about the DA game shit before this.
I'm going to, I'm going to scream this.
She's framing this so disingenuously because all he's,
he knows is that he fucking made a terrible joke that he has apologized for.
No, but you don't understand. She said that, but that's the problem with the framing of this video.
If I'm watching this video, I am assuming that they also know about the DA games because she set up the video this way.
Yeah, we talked about Chris, 40.
minutes.
Yes.
We spent the last 45 minutes talking about DA.
Yes.
So when you circle back to Chris, it looks like you're referring to Will DA.
Yes. Yes. That's the disingen.
Like, you have to understand that this is purposely framed that way.
That's kind of the whole point.
And here are the Discord messages to prove that.
I hate it here.
There were talks about hiring change, and I assume Chris was terminated.
from working with Steven due to that. Cool. One last thing to worry about. Then it got worse.
It turns out nothing happened.
Uh, you don't know if anything happened.
These are the same messages.
Ben, cool. Oh, there's a big surprise. I tried following up, but never heard anything. Cut to November of this year,
where Steven has mentioned in that email asking for an NDA to look into the Chris issue.
This eventually escalated into a public spectacle. When I share the NBA.
I fucking hate when it does this. You put up a giant thing I need to see what that was.
Steven has mentioned in that email asking for an NDA to look into the Christmas.
Okay. Yeah.
We also wish to clear up the point of confusion. Okay. Okay. Okay. We read this. We read this before.
This eventually escalated into a public spectacle when I shared the NDA email on Twitter.
One of the people in that third ad tagged Stephen directly. And then thanks for the support, guys.
It's emotionally draining. But I feel like being critical of online spaces, especially when you try to solve things privately.
Yes, because he wasn't supposed, like, his involvement wasn't supposed to be included.
He may have not okayed a third party to say that as well.
That's the other thing, too.
Who? Who is supposed to be a cloutist?
First is important.
Were you able to contact Sabre or anyone that currently works for him about Chris?
I contacted Sabre through some friends in common. Never heard about an official firing, though.
I was never contacted by any friend of yours, nor did you ever make any attempt to reach out to me on your own behalf via Twitter, email, or anywhere else.
You are omitting so much information right now, but I'll provide some here in a sec under your original post.
Dude, we can talk privately. I have screenshots that I contacted both and B and B.
Are you going to record the call without telling me the call without telling me the same?
I'm not you to Chris too. Talk to me privately. I'm not doing this back and forth on Twitter.
Then don't app me with your half-truths and omitted information in order to gain sympathy and slander my name.
I'm 100% to debunk every accusation in your video. I have no idea how you can claim due diligence when you never reached out to me.
Don't fucking talk to me like that. Don't call me a fucking liar when I have the screenshots to back me up.
Your screenshots were contacting a friend that's not due diligence you should have had as a direct at.
I'm sorry. Oh my god. And if you were aware of the call, then the information got back to you regardless.
If there was some decision made, I never heard about it. I'm ending this conversation.
Yeah, he doesn't owe you an explanation.
The thing is, is that you reach that to DA Games.
DA Games is who you have an issue with, not him.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Yeah, like, I've been quiet for a lot of this because a lot of this has been very confusing to me.
But I feel like Saberspark being like, uh, asking, well, are you going to record the call?
Because everyone knows she records calls and then her pointedly not answering that question.
is all the reason that he needs to be like, I don't owe you anything then.
If you're not going to answer that question.
And again, this allows Saberspart to run from accountability that you want him to be accountable for.
You want him to be accountable.
How can he be accountable?
Just how?
You're fumbling this.
So a couple of things to unpack here besides me not purposely tying Stephen.
It was a third party.
Regardless, Stephen proceeded to call me a liar publicly.
You call me a liar publicly.
It was a third party.
It's a third party.
I ain't calling you a truth.
Proceeded to tease me about doing an unsolicited recording and to slander him.
Slander is spoken.
Some red flags to this response.
One, Stephen could have calmly asked who I talked to instead of assuming the worst.
Two, his anger was directed at me and not an employer, Chris himself.
Three, Stephen is claiming that I never contacted indirectly, implying that he'd had no information about this.
No.
You were never contacted.
he never contacted about it.
He heard it from a third party.
He heard about, I'm pretty sure that he heard about it for like,
holy shit.
Okay, whatever.
Mids to knowing the confrontation with Chris was reported.
Yes, because.
The A. Games told you he did in the fucking email.
What the fuck?
Because DA Games has the footage.
Do you think for, for instance, the DA Games team, the purpose, like the HR person, didn't tell him that the call was recorded and they had it?
Do you think if he requested it?
They would have actually sent it to him?
Do you think that when he talked to Chris, Chris was like, yes, and the call was recorded.
The footage is publicly available?
what footage is publicly available?
The call?
With Chris?
That's true.
We can find all the bits that she purposely, like, cut out, like, the Chris call, the full Chris call is public.
The whole thing, unedited, unedited.
So she just actually...
So, put it in the Discord?
Actually put it in the Discord.
Why is that not in this fucking video description?
Are you insane?
I may lose my fucking mind.
Yeah, you put it in the stream chat section.
One of the mods is going to send it to me.
Holy fuck.
Well, listen, if they're in both one party consent states, she can consent to it.
It's not the point.
The point is she sounds like a motion.
She's actively, like...
Well, obviously, but she's not...
If the full call is available, we can see everything that she's not including in that Chris call.
Yeah.
One of the mods will put the Discord server in, but please, please, please, please, please, please, please.
You are a, if you are a minor, you A should not be in this chat, and be more importantly,
our server is 18 plus.
Your account must also be six plus months.
Please, please respect that we're asking you guys.
guys nicely.
Listen, I, I, live stream chat.
Christian, not, the Vizio not a safe report.
Let me see.
It's where?
Thank you.
When was this Google Doc made?
Clearing up.
misinformation PDF bathroom event MP4 do what to download this
do I have to download an MP4?
This is the best viewable on PCLAB do not engage anyone do do we do do what the
fuck who the individual that's pre-led association with today?
Okay. Here is the link to the community tab.
Okay. What? I can't. Okay.
Okay. Can everyone hear me?
Ken, yes.
Anyway, Riddles got some background noise issues, but he'll just kind of be needed.
Yeah.
Yeah, Rick.
Chris, you want to say anything?
Why does she not disclose that there's another person in this call?
Why did she not disclose?
That's very fucking weird.
The safety report is in the description, but she deleted the stream.
So why did you not disclose?
Like, you made this then.
This call is 23 minutes.
I just want to hear where it happens.
I'm going to go to 1.5.
Let's go chat.
I guess I'd go first, yeah.
Go for it.
All right. Well, first, I think it's the obvious thing is one.
Just want to profusely apologize for that terrible fucking thing I did.
And that was an absolute horrible person so many years ago, and you didn't deserve that.
Right. So I have a couple of things.
So my source says he told the story in front of Will and Sean a couple other people.
Is that correct?
That would probably be correct, yeah.
So Will has heard the story probably in passing a couple of times, right?
Yeah, probably once.
World premiere for first call, full call, by the way.
Yeah, Sean.
Okay.
Did you talk to Sean privately about anything else that happened when you were working on the team that I don't know about?
Not that I can remember.
Okay.
Okay, so can you kind of just repeat generally what you're...
Okay, so we heard this part.
We're going to like...
Oh, like what the idea was like?
Yeah, like why we were there, me inviting you as a friend.
you know, kind of just the circumstances of Everfree from your perspective.
Everfree was stressful, but otherwise fine.
Wait.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold up. Hold up.
Hold up.
Free from your perspective.
Wait, hold up.
There, me inviting you as a friend, you know, kind of just what, why?
As a friend?
Like, what the event was like?
Generally what you were working for at the time.
What I can remember.
Okay.
I need to hear something.
Okay, so can you kind of just repeat generally what your experience with Everfree was just so we're on the same page?
Okay, okay, with Everfree.
Okay.
Like what the other than was?
I'm trying to see if she cut the call, chat.
I'm being very real.
I'm trying to see if she cut the call up.
Yeah, like, why we were there, me inviting you as a friend, you know, kind of just the circumstances of Everfree from your perspective.
Everfree was stressful, but otherwise fine.
I'm speeding it up even more.
I do recall having.
bouts of constipation at one point.
But yeah, it's, you know, I'm trying to remember so many years ago, but.
It's fine.
Well, let me just refresh your memory.
So I invited you and Jordan, and it was me, and it was Nick Kahn, right?
that was the four of us, and we were saying.
Everfree was the convention, you know, basically we.
For those who don't know, Everfree was the convention where the story took place.
You know, and I set that up.
So you guys didn't have to, you know, you guys weren't in on the hook for the hotel at all.
So that was a nice thing I did.
And so from what I remember, your behavior that even before any of this, it was,
you know, it made me uncomfortable how, you know, every time you're around,
basically anyone at the convention. You know, you know this, but I'm just stating it again.
Like, I don't know if you remember this specifically, but it was very much like, anytime you're around
anyone, you would be like, you know who this is, this is, I live can possible a lot, and what I remember
is their faces would light up. And you did this a couple of times until I was like, hey, Chris, like,
you know, this is making me uncomfortable. So it kind of ties to this whole thing. Did you,
did you brag to people about, you know, to your friends about, you know, recording the video and
being a part of it and all that stuff? Do you remember?
I can't say I ever bragged about that. That was a, I don't even remember doing that, but.
Well, I remember you were invited because I needed help with the camera set up,
because I'm not used to. I remember that. I just, I don't personally remember going up to a lot of people introducing you, but if, uh, you say that's what happened, then that probably happened.
Wait, but if he's doing the camera setup and he's recording the video, isn't, isn't the whole thing to record B-roll of, of you being introduced to other people? I'm so confused. This is 2015. Pony cons don't exist anymore.
I'm so confused. What the fuck?
Yeah, that's, that is, I definitely remember that happening. I'm sure Nick and, uh, Nick can attest.
How old was this recording? So this recording should be in and around.
2020. If you look at the bottom, right, 8, 8, 8, 812, 8, 8, 22, 8, 22,000. Yeah.
To that as well. So I apologize if we were, if I was personally frustrated with you, but that was one of the reasons why I kind of felt like, you were kind of treating me like a piece of meat for validation, and kind of the story matches up with that timeline-wise. So, um, okay, I'm just going to say right now, Luigi Master Brony is an insane name. That's an insane name.
Oh, fuck me.
I apologize if, you know, you didn't feel valued, but, like, I'm sure you can understand, you know, my perspective of why it was kind of making uncomfortable, correct?
No, no, no, absolutely. And, you know, I don't really think you need to apologize for that.
That should be refreshed of that and knowing your perspective, but I should be the one apologizing you for that.
Well, I appreciate that.
So she, okay, accepting apology number one.
Whatever my intent was, that doesn't really matter, because what matters is how you feel now.
Do you hear how fucking remorseful this guy is?
He is hyper remorseful.
I think he probably grew as a person
And this is why you don't get in a private call with KP.
She'll put it in a video.
Christ.
Thank you, saying.
How you felt that.
Thank you, Cy, by the way.
Fuck me.
I will apologize for that.
Okay, and just record, the story told didn't happen, right?
No.
Okay.
It's 100% false.
And the only, like, if I may, um, to, yeah.
Nothing I say is meant to, uh,
yeah, we'll review this with the deal.
what I did.
It's clear and clear tied to it.
It's inexcusable what I did.
Do you want me to say what, what, what the story was just for context or do you want to explain it?
Uh, I mean, I guess it makes more sense if I do, because I don't think it's fair for you to have to reiterate that horrible thing.
Sure, go ahead.
Yeah, so the old, um, pale goes is that I pleasured myself in the hotel bathroom we were sharing during one of our breaks when everyone was gone and whatever.
And that I fell off the John, uh, fucking Christ.
Uh, basically getting lightheaded from what would be.
ejaculation falling on the floor where your dirty clothes also happened to be and that my face planted on your underwear.
Is there a transcript of this?
I don't see one.
Right.
It would be nice to get one, but I don't have a PD version. I have a six-year-old in the other room.
I wasn't wearing that, but thanks for being honest. And, you know, just to reiterate, like, we were doing a lot of that con.
So like, it's reasonable for my clothes to be in the bathroom kind of rolled out away, you know, because we were,
I had a lot of dresses and was a lot of makeup and changing because I was doing a lot of stuff.
Oh, that stuff.
Right.
Yes, that bathroom was mostly covered in yourself.
Wait.
You guys shared a room?
And your dirty underwear was just there?
That's just nasty.
That's whether it was or wasn't, like, that's not really the...
No, it's not.
I'm just...
But, you know.
I've shared...
So, I, like, I've gone to Collins and shared room with my female friends, but like, I...
I don't think any of them have ever left their underwear on the floor.
I've never cared of that.
My recollection, at least.
That probably tracks with just my general profits, especially during convention.
So, yeah, this was Everfree 2015, correct?
From what I remember?
That tracks.
That sounds about right.
Okay.
So Everfree Northwest, 2015, which was a funny talk.
Okay.
Have you ever told this story in company of Sabres Park, or has it just been well?
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Okay.
I can assure you that the first time I ever told it, and this is my brutal honesty,
is because I was very angry at you at the time,
and was also going through a really bad situation of being on the verge of being homeless
and not knowing how to deal with my...
regression of the feelings I was having for you and the feelings I was having for my family.
And I made this...
If this motherfucker goes, I went to therapy to change my life a little bit, I will, like, lose it.
Because it's just like, again, this doesn't excuse that if those screenshots were in his server
around minors, the bestiality thing, unfortunately, I can't corroborate it.
So it doesn't exist.
I'll be honest.
The bestiality claim in the VC does not.
not exist.
I can't, I can't corroborate it.
It's hearsay.
But if this guy says I worked on myself,
why are you trying to constantly
still ruin his life?
This stupid shit up to validate myself for some
stupid fucking reason.
And really only told it to other
former KP people who were also
frustrated with you at the time.
Oh. So it was
a story around people
that didn't like her.
because she had disgruntled employees.
Remember, she fired a 16-year-old because he was too slow on deadlines.
I don't.
Excuse me.
That was fucking stupid.
I should never have done that.
And I don't know why.
I just, for some reason at the time, I thought it was funny.
It's not funny.
What the fuck?
The fact that we have to revisit this so many years later is just horrendous.
So she found out about this, and he is talking to her about this.
And he's owning the fuck up to it.
He's apologizing.
Yeah, he's apologizing many times.
I don't remember there being the apology in the video.
I don't remember.
So if so, not this many times.
The apology is in the video, but not this extension of the apology.
Yeah.
And apologizing for the series of problems.
Again, you don't have to like him.
Post to the apology he wrote in the stream chat.
It's the PDF.
Thank you, thank you.
Hey, Jess.
Good to see you.
Yeah, I appreciate your honesty now.
Yeah.
Okay, so yeah, the thing that I think
think of as analogy as kind of the Trump locker room pocket.
Oh my God, you made it.
Oh, my God.
You've planned this.
This has been.
You planned this.
You planned this hit piece for year.
That proves to me she's planned a hit piece for years.
I'm sorry.
Oh.
You've planned this for years.
Divinci's crashing on me to try to make the transcript.
It sucks.
Insane.
you've been thinking about that for years.
And again,
she doesn't have to have disgruntled employee.
She just has to pay people.
Yeah.
I French,
but I feel like that's kind of what feels like you kind of built yourself up.
Here's the thing.
This is stuff she already knew about
and was unsatisfied with how people were dealing with it.
And I get it.
But you didn't know about the other.
stuff.
You were going to make a video regardless if you didn't have the other stuff about him.
I'm going to...
That's 100% accurate.
That's a very conality, actually.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you kind of did a...
He agrees with it.
No one is blaming her, Brandon.
No one is blaming her.
The thing is fabricated.
It's still very gross.
It's just very disingenuous because right now,
it sounds like he's agreeing with everything she's.
says about his statements and how wrong he was.
You know what it could be too?
And like, I've been angry where you just kind of like,
something will inconvenience you and you take it really angry.
But it seems like he's having this weekend, this trip with his boss, so to speak,
even though he doesn't get paid, his boss.
And on top of doing all this other work at this event,
she's out, you know, interacting with people and having different outfit changes.
and she's leaving her stuff on the bathroom floor that she's admitted in this situation.
And while he's there, he's just, like, concocting this story because he's just upset for a multitude of reasons,
including not getting paid.
And then, you know, events to people who also are, feel wronged by her as well.
And it just makes up a story.
Yeah, she dead-ass jokes.
It's a disgusting story.
It's a disgusting story, sure.
But like...
Because she's also been sitting on this recording for what?
No.
Two years?
A year and a half?
No, 223.
So let's just say two years.
You've been sitting on this...
The video's that bad.
This?
You've been sitting on this recording for years.
I mean, I'll just think like kind of have some misogynistic talk to kind of vote.
100%.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, I'm just making sure we're on the same page as far as that.
So as far as your relationship with Saber, like, is it, like, just so I know, is it something...
Are you guys, like, friendly, friendly, or is he just giving you kind of...
She doesn't need to disclose this.
Yeah.
Go on, Greg.
say it. No, she keeps bringing up Saber.
Because she's been trying to connect this to him.
It's not related to him. It's by you and Chris, not Saber.
She wanted to take a lot of people down with this.
Holy shit.
Contract working, that's it.
I mean, I guess you could say it's both, but I don't have, like, long conversations with him so busy.
Most of I ever see him is at conventions if he happens to be at the same one.
Okay, so, you know, you're not an environment where this would have come up anyway.
Never.
So he would probably be able.
He's 100% unaware.
Like, again, I can't stress enough is that.
And then you say you don't believe him about this.
Why do you hate Saber?
Okay, I gotta know.
Si, if you know, if the chat knows, why does she hate Saber so much?
What's the lore here?
Because it's either that, or she always planned to hear him out, record him, even though she...
Because here's what I'm actually getting right now.
Here's what it's feeling like.
This was posted.
on 11, 14, 2024.
But she had this recording beforehand.
It was recorded 8 to 2023.
Yes.
If she didn't share it with you until then,
she has been sitting on it for over a year at that point by the time it got posted.
I'm going to be up front.
She is probably going to accept his apology in this call,
and then privately,
she's like, I'm recording this on purpose.
I'm recording this on purpose.
so I can get him.
She's trying to fix.
What she's trying to do is she's trying to life-ruinate this guy
by listening in and trying to figure it out.
Samberg was weird with her in the past,
supposedly acting like a creep to her in the past.
Bronies.
I don't know what to tell you.
They're all socially awkward and inept.
Should they do that?
No.
They probably were like, ooh, it's the only girl in the room.
Let's all try to have sex with her and make her or our wife.
This is not an excuse for their behavior.
But this is weird.
In the times I ever told the story, it was, as you described, it locked.
I could be wrong because this is what I heard,
but I heard apparently Saber cut off KP when KP started associating with Lily Orchard,
and it wasn't just him, but others as well.
Yeah, because Lily Orchard fucking raped her sister.
Like, do I have to say that?
Like, listen, I don't care.
Like, listen, I'll say this right now.
Courtney, if you somehow find this fucking video and find this in the chat,
I will rip you.
a new asshole for your consent talk at the end of this video.
We will get there and I'm going to destroy you.
But I'll be very honest about it.
Courtney is a victim.
I don't think that's true.
What the fuck?
Why?
Why? Why? Why don't you think it's true?
I still think Courtney is a fucking victim.
I just don't think that I think the fucking victim.
talk she has about consent at the end of this video is so abhorrently disgusting and so dismissive of people.
In a very small amount of people in a private call. I never told it publicly.
Alex, I'm sorry if you see this. I thought you were saying about the rape. I'm just being very,
very honest. I never. Yes, she could be an victim and an asshole at the same time.
Ever told it to anyone like Saber Spark. Like that. Like that. Just just so we're on the same page.
Is they were even aware that you were for me in the past?
you know, I've never brought it up. And I don't think he has either.
Yeah, no, this is a boss attacking your former employee.
This is 100% yes. The out of context button, I do need one of those.
I'm just making sure. I genuinely do not know. Okay, but I know Will knows you work with me in the past.
Isn't true. I'm obviously. Well, yes, but really only because, and again, to be really honest again,
is that around the time that I left, KP, was also the time that DeA Games took off and I really
needed a job because of the situation at the time. So he would have really only known because
we were becoming work partners and because a lot of people he hired also worked for you prior
and did have.
Yeah, that's the other thing.
It also feels like she's really mad that DA games poached from Team KP.
But they were paying them.
Allegedly you weren't paying anybody.
If people are like, I really want to get paid for this hobby I'm doing now.
What's, what is happening?
Man.
I.
Not that like being poached is pretty cool.
Hey, Sye.
I still be.
leave Courtney, mostly because of how much Lily talks about incest.
But I'm not taking crap from Courtney anymore.
Yeah, listen. I'm okay with Courtney feeling however she wants to feel and trusting the people that
she wants to trust. I said this. The same thing I said about when the destiny stuff came out
regarding Pixie, I believe not so Ariadite is a piece of shit and was willing to throw that
woman under the bus. But if a victim believes other people, that is awe. That is. That is all. That is
completely fine with them.
Shmoosy Schmutz!
Thank you so much for the subscription.
Thank you.
I just like, you can tell me show if I, if my connection is like at pocket about like, I see a lot of like of
cataclysm in the way Courtney is acting.
It's like, no, I agree.
It's actually really unhealthy from you.
You need to kind of like disconnect and get, like, you need to get your mental health together
because this is like not good for you.
This is unhealthy.
I don't know who Courtney is.
Will you explain when we?
When she shows up in the video?
Lily Orchard's sister.
Just straight up.
And if you know the Lily Orchard's lore, that's just how it is.
I have ppped up frustrations of their time as DMK members.
Okay.
And that's, those are, like, you're speaking directly to about John Christian, correct?
Those would be two examples.
Yes.
I mean, I hate to mention it, but Bogsy was also a member.
But I don't communicate with Bogsy at all anymore.
Is Bogsy still there?
Fuck no.
Okay.
We fired him years ago.
Okay.
Do you know what he's doing out of curiosity?
Why are you so curious about what the fighter is doing?
I have my hit list.
And girl, everyone's going down.
She wanted to grate this guy for information.
She wanted to know where all her haters were.
This is an insane conversation.
He apologized.
You are accepting it.
And then you're moving on to hear about all of your haters.
Did Saberspark know?
Oh, does Sabrespark?
But you still work for Saberspark?
What's the nature of your friendship?
And blah-d-da-da-da-da.
Bro.
Oh, this is wild.
Well, my understanding is he does composition work for spindle horse.
That's all I know.
I don't keep tabs on him because, quite frankly, I'd rather not.
Yeah, I agree.
But I did, just for the record, I did warn Busy Pop about how toxic he was a couple of years ago.
So I wonder if she acted on that.
Anyway, that's what's not.
Busy Pop.
Doesn't.
There's husband hotel.
Well, that's it.
Okay.
If I remember correctly, KP hates Vizip now, right?
Am I remembering this correctly?
or does she still defend Vizipop?
I remember reading something about it.
I said Vizipop would give you the time of day.
Again, I say this all the time.
Fun Fowg-Gy lore.
I know one of the people who tried to destroy Vizipop.
Which is very funny.
Vizibop hate...
Yeah, we used to.
K.P.
I actually helped them pay for their animation school one time because I felt bad.
Because they couldn't pay for it.
Oh, that's nice.
Yeah.
They were doing a go-fiance.
me. K.P. hates Vizzy because a guy she doesn't like works for Spindle Horse. Amazing.
Griffin and Boggs worked for Spindle Horse. Great.
And so just to kind of reiterate, your anger towards me. Did you have a crush on me and I didn't
reciprocated to you? Oh, no, no, no.
Or like, can you articulate?
Well, my frustration really was that, like, a lot of people there, I felt undervalued and overworked for
no pay. And that's really what it was.
You know what's really interesting? Reasonable. Reasonable.
Do you want to know something? I wouldn't apologize.
as her essentially if I, okay, definitely I did that, but like, she, like, basically, like, uses, like, a slave.
I'd like to hear Riddle of Lightning talk.
Why do I feel like Riddle of Lightning is the guy that gave the impact testimony about Chris?
Because it's very weird how everything, uh, KP is, uh, KP is.
asking about was addressed in the character testimony about Chris. Very weird, chat. It's too
convenient. Listen, I see patterns all the time, but it's weirdly fucking convenient.
And I lashed out in an extremely toxic way. Didn't she in her video say he didn't mention
issues working for her?
For the record, you've never tried to talk to me about any that directly because I don't remember
that you did.
Say that again?
Have you ever tried to talk to me directly about how you were feeling at the time?
You know, I can't recall.
I think I brought up pay at one point, but I would assume it wasn't on the...
I'm just trying to score that, like, because that's not, that wasn't my intention, that's
never been my intention, doing YouTube for 10 years.
And like, unfortunately, the trauma in that experience helped me to kind of make sure I, like,
I caught my trauma brain, but make sure my trauma brain everyone's treated well.
And like, you know, so I'm just confirming that.
What? Trauma. What? Trauma? What? Trauma?
I don't want a person who's working.
recording this? What the fuck are you doing?
It's the ADHD shuffle where
where the conversation has gone on too long and you have to move your mouse.
I see, excuse me to see it. I saw, I saw Lewis McClone do it.
I do it sometimes. I understand what's happening.
If you're recording this for other people, people are going to see this.
Five hour reminder, we still haven't gotten to say.
Sabers work.
You used to pop out. You used to fucking pop out.
Black Griffin was the singing voice for Alistair. I think in there has been pilot.
Sabers Park defended him.
Yes, he was.
That's why she warned of Jipop, I guess.
That's fucking lore is deep.
This is crazy.
Remember when I said this had to be three streams?
I told you, I know all the Black Griffin lore now.
I've also said this before, that you can hate Black Griffin,
but you should hate that one girl's mom
because she definitely was trying to pawn off her kid to him.
And it didn't work, but it worked for the friend.
I don't know what that means. I'll find out.
Yes, you will. I know too much about proonies now.
I don't want to.
to know anymore. I'm tired of it.
Which matches up with my memory.
You never talked to me about it directly.
Sean Christian did. And they realized they, as well, never brought these issues to me directly.
So I assume that you didn't and you probably, based on the timeline, you probably didn't bring them up either because you probably thought it was handled.
Correct? That sounds accurate.
Okay. Okay. I just want to make sure we're on the same page.
So I think my last question, when you want to jump in and add anything else near the end is did you, so we're having the conversation in 2023.
This was events about mostly almost 10 years ago at this point, like seven or eight.
So, like, were you hoping this story wouldn't get back to me?
Or did you even think about, like, the implications of-
Why? Why would he hope the story got back to you?
At the time, I didn't, you know, wouldn't have wanted to reach you because my understanding was, at least with the people I was talking to, no one was talking to you.
And, you know, and that was that.
I only recall ever telling a story maybe three times.
And those other times was usually because someone else made me on to tell it.
She's something that happened 10 years ago.
So self-centered. Holy shit.
She held the grudge for 10 years.
so she could ask that question.
Damien Wolfe, I know about the Bronys React thing.
Do you want to know who else was in those?
K.P. Very specifically.
Right.
Again, that doesn't mean anything because they all submitted stuff.
But just saying...
Right. So...
It wasn't, like, a habitual thing.
I wasn't, like, going on to podcast and telling a story or whatever, like that.
You know, I had at least enough self-control.
He would bitch about me because I wouldn't give him his panel or whatever the fuck.
Yeah, I appreciate that at least.
So just me...
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay, I think I had one more question, but...
So you just kind of assume that, you know, I'd never hear about it, right?
I think anyone would, but yeah.
Okay. All right.
Well, did it ever cross your mind to kind of bring up the story, you know,
and confess to me privately, like, that the situation happened,
that I wouldn't have to hear it from a third party?
Well, to be honest, I hadn't even thought about the story until you messaged me.
Why?
That was the first time I'd even thought about it, because I haven't told it in got to be five years at this point.
She's like, oh, you should feel guilty.
She was like up all night, he said,
because I didn't think about it reaching.
one and two, we weren't really on speaking terms.
So, and even if I did, I don't know how I would even approach the whole thing.
Yeah, how is he going to approach you?
It's never crossed my mind because around that same time, I would stop telling it is when I, you know,
made an active effort to fix myself.
So I wasn't really...
He went to therapy.
He did the thing she said you're supposed to do is go to therapy.
Liger Lord. Thank you so much for becoming a boom operator. Thank you, dude.
Legal Lord became a member.
It's not legal Lord. It's like a thing.
It's like she's mad that someone fixed themselves means they don't go on like a My Life is Earl type situation where they try to go back and like make up for all the shit they did.
It doesn't actually happen in real life.
It wouldn't have been good enough because she had the hit piece in mind anyway.
Like she needed to get to the end result so no progress he has on himself personally can be enough for her to forgive him because she needs that there to,
to get to get Will Ryan and Sabers Park.
Yeah.
It seems like she always was ready to target everybody involved.
Because she's asking targeted questions to know who she can get involved.
Thinking of toxic shit like that.
Right.
Okay.
I appreciate it.
That's an error on my part.
I definitely should have brought it up sooner.
But again, it just, after everything, I just completely fucking forgot I ever told that shit.
Right, right.
Okay.
I think those are all my questions.
for now.
You know, so have you told any, like, have you, like, well, never mind, I guess that answers my question.
Do you have anything else you want to say?
Well, I mean, again, besides, you know, obviously apologizing for it and we're asking you
that I'm not that person anymore and haven't been for quite a few years.
Okay.
Well, I remember my question.
So were you aware that I got diagnosed with PTSD from everything?
I did not.
Who the fuck cares?
From what?
Who, from what?
From all the trauma regarding to the internet.
She got diagnosed with PTSD.
You.
Let me guilt you.
I want to guilt you more.
High guilt you for not.
After you almost went homeless because I wouldn't pay you for your work.
High key, get diagnosed again.
I think I don't understand.
Like, I got diagnosed with PTSD because I faced the ramifications of my actions because there was a series of issues that I did not address that I had to come to terms with.
Are you aware that I have a service dog now that I need?
Okay, nobody cares.
He hasn't talked to you in years.
Like, yeah, yeah.
He's apologizing.
He's like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.
Yeah, I'm really curious to know.
She's not listening to his apology at all.
I will say this, uh, because I know, I saw you're in chat and you were talking about it.
I would love to know what Aunt Grimulia thinks about this.
As Italian, Italian to New Jersey and to New Jersey and I would love to fucking know what
that man thinks about this.
That she is.
throwing her literal shit all over the place.
She got PTSD from a 10-year-old joke.
She only recently found out about after not interacting with a person.
Mm-hmm.
Did not know that either.
Okay, seven years later.
So he's right here.
His name's Toby.
He's a good thing.
He's asleep right now.
But like, I guess what's my personal frustration.
I don't care what your dog's name is.
I don't.
You know, I was definitely hard.
Oh, yeah, you did a stream.
Very cool.
And you were kind of like, unknosed to me, like, kind of rubbing the dirt in my eyes and having me back, which kind of.
I do know she tried to get aunt to voice.
I do know.
All my trauma stuff anyway.
So I guess that's kind of the part that also kind of discussed me.
And I'm sure you were kind of using my name as credibility on a professional level in some way.
And you were, you know, like you were using that to basically, I mean, to be honest, to get you're going on a resume.
for work that you've done?
What?
I mean, I've ever heard something like this before.
So I guess I'm just kind of totally frustrated.
Who do you think you are, lady?
Who do you think you are?
Q is now activated.
this is insane.
Do you know that we have more to this fucking video,
but this is like a world premiere call thing that nobody's heard before?
Hold on.
No, it was on the dock, but nobody paid attention.
She deleted it.
It's a world premiere.
Hold on.
Did she actually say.
She was sitting up in his chair.
I hear him.
He's activated.
She actually say that like that you're going to use.
You're going to use my name.
on your resume.
Did she say that?
No one will ever understand how cathartic seeing my distrust of KP from the very start being
confirmed in such spectacular fashion.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I just want to make sure that that's actually what I heard.
That's not the exact words that she said.
It's a roundabout.
But it is what she said.
That's how I'm taken.
She got a trauma because Bogsy did a slander campaign during his time working with her.
She hired a minor.
I don't care of the.
If the fucking 16 year old gives you PTSD from slandering you, I, you are a fucking, you're a bitch.
You are literally nothing.
You are made of glass and paper and all your bones are going to break by any pressure.
You hired a minor.
What the fuck do you mean?
I can't.
She thinks she's missed your beast.
Well.
What the fuck are you telling me?
Boxes is a child.
The funny part is,
oddly Mr.
Mr. Beast and this
has some association
with children.
What the fuck? Please. Don't tell me that's true.
I want to believe that the adults actually fucked her up.
Not the kid.
For real. No.
No. I want to believe her.
I can't.
L, you got traumatized by a child.
I can't believe it.
There's no way.
Oh, there.
There's.
That,
that, those things were happening simultaneously.
And that you're, like, I'm sure you're aware of it now, but you're angry.
I, like, I'll be real.
Like, I'm not mad.
Like, again, I'm still somehow, like, I'm obviously not mad at KP.
Because it, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
But, like, are you telling me the 16 year old that you hired?
Wait, she told this kid's mom?
You're fucking.
fucking...
And she's not in jail?
All right, hot take, hot take, hot take, hot take coming in.
How the fuck are you people mad at Lyo sometimes for calling a kid's mom about him being a shitter on the internet?
And this bitch flew under the fucking radar.
You've gotta be shitting me, she called his mom.
You've gotta be fucking shitting me.
Scarlet Reaper was right she got reverse predated and got PTSD.
Oh, my God.
There's no fucking way!
It's because Lyo never escaped the shit he did during the road.
Listen, I'll clown on Lio for all that shit, all the predator hunting shit.
I will tell him to his face that he's a fucking idiot.
But like...
It always goes back to Scarlet.
But here's like the crazy part.
At least he's kind of owned up to it.
She's not apologizing for this.
this at all.
I mean, she's actively like ignoring the other person in front of her.
She's only going to accept this guy's apology so this recording can take place.
I want you to know, Pops that I am, that I have been, that I've been blueballed for five hours.
Where is Sabrespark?
I know.
Five hours.
There is Samber Spark.
I know.
Where is...
Where is common steady?
Yeah.
It's number two work for.
Like, you know, what's going on at the time where I was really, really stuck with.
Damien, the, uh, the Senate does not live anymore.
Lyo is in this chat from time to time.
He constantly has to answer for it.
Because he's also in our, he goes in our discord from time to time.
and my chat will never let him live his mistakes down.
If drummer is here,
drummer never lets that motherfucker live his mistakes down.
Legit, we have had to be like,
urinary.
Oh, man, fucking Lio let drummer in discord and regretted instantly.
Listen, he is trying to get better.
He's trying.
But I have been like, stop this.
we do beat Ohio a lot.
We have asked him how many kids he could fight and he left the call.
I think he said six, like sixth grade, I think.
Listen.
No, no, that was me.
He can only try.
I think his, like, he was wondering if he had, you can use weapons or he had to be his fist.
He's doing great.
He's a good time in Poo-Topia.
Oh, yeah, you and guys had Poo server.
God bless.
Those two somehow have made up.
Fuck it.
I know.
I don't know.
I don't know if I'm not.
I'm not saying that to be like, whoa, poor me, for a victim.
I'm just trying to.
No, no, no, no.
That's valid.
Yeah.
It's no more different than what I was saying is that because I also suffered a mental breakdown a few years ago
and had to be properly psychiatrically evaluated.
And, you know, I'm a therapist now.
I'm on antidepressants.
So.
Oh, you call it.
You called it.
Wait.
Good.
You're taking care of yourself good.
Wait for it.
My vibe is there might be some.
Like, don't take.
This is an insult at all.
This is not meant to be an insult, but there might be some autism at play.
I don't even know if that's cross.
Sye.
Sigh, sigh, sigh.
We need to have a conversation right now, sigh.
Why?
She called him autistic.
I can't.
He called him on distance.
What's there?
You think you might be into trains?
I can't.
There's no way.
I can't fucking fool it.
I am testing one, one, one.
I am in shock.
I can't hold it.
I need to hear that again.
I don't mean to read it too well too much, but my vibe is there might be some, like, don't take this as an insult at all.
This is not meant to be an insult, this is not meant to be an insult, but there might be some autism upplay.
I don't even know.
So you're giving him an excuse for kind of being a bad person now by saying he's autistic.
Oh my God.
That actually might mean they go on the sound board.
I think you might be autistic.
Ma'am, what?
I can't.
Why are we here?
Can't even go on the soundboard.
I'm losing my fucking mind, Chad.
A kid's at play sign.
and said it's some autism at Plainty Signed.
I'm losing my mind.
That's crushed your mind.
No, no, no, that's true. I just never disclose that to people out of the habit.
Oh, he's diagnosing. You don't say anything. What the fuck?
No.
She talks this.
No.
Ditch.
He doesn't want to disclose the autism.
It doesn't.
We're fine hours in.
Oh, no.
Saberspark, where are you?
Bro.
Like, fuck this guy for real.
But like, like, again, if there was like, again, if there was like, miters,
fighters in his server too.
Like, and that, like, this will guy was also doing shit in that server.
Fuck him.
But what the fuck?
Oh, no.
It's really.
Okay, well, I mean, I think that that explains why you might have been, you know,
pigeon, I don't know what the expression is,
but you might not have been focused on how it was affecting me, you know,
was just kind of like you know, that's kind of thing.
So, you know, but I'm glad you're aware of that at least.
Like, I'm sure.
I mean, I apologize for not disclosing that to you, but, you know, that's also technically
a childhood trauma thing is that people would treat me differently if they knew I had that, so I usually kept it secret.
Right. Well, I mean, I'm just saying for me, like, I don't think you need to be embarrassing. It's just kind of who you are.
So, like, you know, if that's... I mean, I'm not anymore, but at the time, I definitely would not...
Doesn't this sound like she's accepting his apology?
Doesn't this sound like she's very accepting of his apology?
I mean, a lot can change in two years, though.
Maybe, like, she's only accepting the... It's like she's only going to... It's like she's only going to...
to accept the apology on the condition that he admits he's autistic?
That's what it kind of sounds like to me. I don't... I don't know.
This was a gay op. This was a gay op. I can't! It was a gay op the entire time! Hold up. Before this goes any further.
Were she gaslighting in to believe he's autistic?
That's going nowhere now?
Chat, if you want to know why,
that calls going nowhere now.
If this doc goes down.
You know, that was just toxic masculinity.
Yeah, well, that's what misogyny is.
Right. Yeah, all right. Anything else?
I mean, I feel like I've covered mostly around, and, you know, I'm glad we had this talk at least to sort of, you know, square things away.
Does any of your other friends know? Like this happening in the air circle?
This? This, yeah. The only people that would know would know would be my family because they had to console me from the stress of the texts.
But I didn't really divulge anything.
and I called Sean to say that, you know, things are kind of fucked and I was going to talk to you and hope that we could swear this away.
That's how much he was a person who would have known about the situation before, so.
Right. How much did you tell Sean?
I'm going to watch some anime.
Scream real loud when the Sabers Park part comes up.
I will do. Just for you.
The TLDR?
I didn't like divulge. I didn't say what you said verbatim or anything. I just said, you know, that this happened and that we were going to talk about it.
And then I hope it goes well.
All right. So I don't really have anything else that I feel comfortable saying at this point, but, you know, I just, I'll just leave with good luck and may God of mercy on your soul. And, you know, this two shall pass. Okay? All those things. Okay. All right. Well, have a good night. Okay. All right. Well, have a good night. Okay. All right. Well, I'm going to limit my communication with you for obvious reasons. But I understand. Okay. Well, all right. Well, I appreciate you talking to me. Okay. I appreciate the same. You have been good health. Yeah. Yeah. I'm fine. I'm much healthier, but it took a very long time for me to get here. Lots of very deep trauma therapy.
I'm very sorry. I know that goes with that. I know what it's like. I appreciate.
I appreciate it. But, you know.
Just more guilt.
I mean, it's not something I started talking about relatively recently, but it really fucked up my relationship with my family.
He's complicated it.
And, you know, it's been harder than I've let on publicly.
So I appreciate you saying that.
No, it's all good.
All right.
Well, I'll let you go.
So, you know, just keep all that inside.
Good luck.
And, you know, hope it is as, hope it goes as, you know, as painlessly as can, right?
Oh, my God.
All right.
So cringe.
She?
She asked for no.
contact.
She asked for no contact.
That's what he said in his tweet also about quote unquote blue.
The God had mercy on your soul part is whatever.
She was going to.
She gave up this.
Again, Chris is still a shitty person for making that.
And if he allowed the sharing of Lollicot and other stuff in his server,
that's fucking disgusting.
Again, I do need proof of that.
We'll go over it during the DA game stuff, but again, it's not really presented that way.
It's never presented that it's curious server.
But this is vile.
She planned this from the jump.
We're going to go back to the video now.
I'm, I am in shock.
Does she thought releasing this call?
Yes, Pixel, thank you so much, dude.
Like, legitimately.
You know, as much as like, like, shit I'll give you for certain things, this was good.
Planned what the call?
No, the video.
This video has been planned for years.
She has been, she was trying to figure out everything about who this man worked with,
who he worked for, how much they knew,
if they ever discovered.
certain things about her job, about the animation she ever did, where would they go?
Oh, I don't know.
Are you sure you didn't tell this person?
I'd like to know the inner workings of your job with this person, all of which she is not deservingly privy of?
She planned to take down Chris and anybody associated with him for years now.
She was just waiting for more dirt.
She was waiting for more dirt.
What's up? Quite?
Quite.
Hey, quite.
Quite, I watched your, or I haven't watched it yet.
I still need to watch your M. Prague video.
M. Gregg.
I fucking.
The Dundragg.
The draw me pregnant video.
That shit is hilarious.
I, we have, that, that's a joke in our community.
So I'm super.
That's up quite.
Good to see you, dude.
I wasn't going to make fun of Stephen so much, but I gave him so many chances to communicate with me, and he just didn't do anything.
So clearly he doesn't care what I have to say.
It's only an issue when there's potential backlash.
Girl, what?
Oh, why are you audio mixing again?
Diesel!
There's my man.
Look at it.
Look at everybody.
Oh, hi-high.
Hi, he's a little guy.
Diesel!
All!
It's the little guy.
Everybody's here.
It's like Smash by the everybody's here.
If anyone wants to listen, Diesel, if you want to join the call and hear everything crazy that I'm going to give you for your stream on this.
It's going to be a good time.
This is part one of three streams.
This got crazier than I was.
This got.
Oh, by the way, so she stole this.
Uh, wholesale didn't make this, stole this, didn't give credit to anybody.
No, God, no, this is tomorrow.
Brother, I have stuff to give you.
More stuff.
More stuff has happened.
We've got insider information.
Good crats on the numbers.
Oh, thanks, Poppy.
We love you.
Microwave your salads.
Yes, you stole this from a cosplay video.
Yep.
Bitch ass motherfucker.
He pitched on my.
fucking white that's right he said his dick was this big and i said that's disgusting.
Yep and the guy yes there is the thing that she stole this share the Chris call with the yeah i got it
anything we get diesel always gets first dibs on you guys don't know this i'm making a call
post on my you're trying to do some good content he's like i don't know
you got a small fucking dick it's the size of this walnut but way fucking smaller and guess what here's what my
dog looks like that
No, okay.
I don't care.
Okay, big number, big number.
Yon Dev.
During Wednesday.
Yes.
You know who did?
You interviewed Yon Dev.
Diesel.
I was about to say,
sigh, I know you're doing a Yon Dev stream.
Diesel did interview him and broke the story about all his creepy a pedophilic behavior.
Might be a great person to talk to about Yon Dev.
I don't know.
Don't.
Don't put him out like that.
It looks like two balls and a bone.
He fucked my wife.
Guess what?
I'm gonna fuck the earth.
That's right.
That's what you get.
My super laser piss.
I'm not gonna piss on the earth.
I'm going higher.
I'm gonna piss on the moon.
Yeah, it's a six hour video.
How do you like that?
Oh, bummer.
You have 23 hours.
We're all the piss droplets full on the earth.
Why does this matter?
Yes, you stole this.
But why does this matter?
This is too long and it is almost as bad as the Seinfeld bit.
Yeah.
I want to remind you this is, this precedes a rape allegation and actual pedophilia.
This is, yeah.
This is insane.
We're going to power through a chat.
Just for you guys.
We're going to power through it.
The bit has been beyond killed.
The bit is beyond dead.
Remember, this video is about zoophilia, pedophilia, rape, sexual assault, sexual misconduct, uh, sexual harassment.
All of this.
Fucking sight before I piss, all of you.
This is insane.
How did you think this was funny?
How do you even make this connection?
When you have to type this much text different from the meme, it's a bad meme.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Listen, she had two years.
Yeah.
Listen, I'm going to be honest.
I'll make a better DA games video than this bitch ever will.
Can I ask Pixel something?
Yeah, go for it.
Pixel, were you one of the people involved that asked to not have their name associated with this?
I know the editors didn't.
If you don't answer, you don't want to answer, you don't want to.
have tantra, obviously.
Yeah.
Yes.
It's fair.
I'll make a fucking better...
I understand.
I'll make a better fucking DA game stream than this bitch ever will.
Mac, you miss the whole...
It's impossible to catch you up.
Holy crap.
What did I miss?
Your friend was one of the editors?
Oh, fuck me, dog.
I'm so sorry.
Imagine if the Nuremberg trials had memes before the proceedings began.
Fuck me.
Don't worry.
Most like actual...
like decent human beings don't fucking care about the editor of a video.
Yeah, no, we don't usually do it.
Unless they act like they didn't have any agency in making the video.
Shit.
Did you guys see...
Yes, we do know that she deleted some Discord.
I know the Discord is going under some revamping.
Again, I still don't really hate the fucking KP.
I just think this is so incredibly poorly mismanaged that I'm, like, actually kind of concerned.
Like, like...
we need somebody to carry the DA games thing correctly now.
Like, I'll fucking do it.
I don't give a shit.
Most things, no matter what you see on YouTube or whatever,
everything's going to be biased,
but you need somebody less biased than K.P.
Covering all of this.
Yeah, I'll push.
Listen.
Pixel, straight up.
I'm not even going to front.
If you guys want...
want to redo all the stuff about DA games, the involvement, the concerns, and your doc in a correct format,
I will do it for you.
Straight up.
This is, this is, if you want your story to actually be heard and not a video like this,
I will redo it.
Straight up.
No, French ass jokes.
If you want to talk to Anon about it,
it's fine.
If you want to be by yourself, I will actually do it.
I got no issues with that.
Because it's pissing me off that credible allegations are stuck in this fucking shit ass of a video.
Like, it's actually making me angry.
And I'll release it as its own thing and even react to it and we'll do like we'll do like we did when it
came to the jar stuff when we got the just a robot call with the evidence that contradicts
everything as well as showing proof with and considering to the thing, to the interview.
So it's not just slapdashed and that it's put together.
So what I think happened is that Stephen was informed by Pym, didn't know it came from me,
discussed it, we would offer decided it was nothing, and forgot about it until he started facing
some public backlash, and proceeded to blame me. Because he was so concerned with direct communication,
I ended up sending him this email detailing who I talked to you.
Why this is important, and why this isn't a single incident.
Good afternoon, Stephen.
This email is your requested private communication regarding Chris and the overall sexual harassment situation in these cause.
Our full incident report can be found here of news.
Since you publicly displayed confusion at best about my attempting communication with you prior to this point,
below our screenshots of my conversations with my, a k.k.a. the friends slash employees I pass
Chris's information to. The conversation with K.
Specifically mentions a possible staffing change based on Chris's actions, and I honestly cannot
fathom a situation where there would be that drastic with employee change or discussion without your knowledge.
Screenshots can be found here, here, here and here.
I do not appreciate you calling me a liar publicly, and I would like some form of public
apology. He didn't give me one. Additionally, your public statement states that you knew the confrontation
between me and Chris was recorded as a matter of community safety. Combined with your email interactions
with the A. Games, leave me to believe that unless there was some major miscommunication,
you are aware of the situation you have chosen in action. You still have the choice to either hold
Chris accountable, i.e. firing him approved or keep him on staff. Should you choose the former,
please communicate this to me as soon as possible to avoid any miscommunication in any public state.
He doesn't deserve, you don't deserve, you don't deserve that. What he does privately is of his
company. What? What he does privately for his company?
company is not for you to know.
What the fuck?
Statement slash information present after.
If you believe this is a one-time incident, this document link below has logged some of
Chris's other inappropriate behavior, including but not limited to, making
the decadiality jokes to someone he knew as a minor and the use of the N-word in Nazi imagery with
himself and Will of the A Games.
You can find...
Okay, I don't...
I know you people are so woke, I don't give a shit about the fucking Nazi imagery shit.
I've seen worse on the internet.
This reads like one of the past.
over emails from the release.
Oh, yeah, those is just carrying 100%, 100%, like 10%.
Yeah, six year ago allegations.
Like, shit, he is no longer attached to.
A Beastiality joke that we, none of us can prove because it, we don't know what exists.
I hate to tell you this, people make bad jokes around minors that they shouldn't.
More information on page 4 and 29 of this document.
I've been clearance to show uneded screenshots of the Beastie Allity incident if requested.
I hope that we can clearly communicate.
about this going forward. I've no desire to get into an internet squabble with you, so let's please work this out like adults.
And do you know what happened? No response to the email, but suddenly the Twitter exchange got deleted? Where did it go? Nowhere to be found. No apology.
Yeah, what you think that he's not going to get his lawyers involved when you send an email like that? He has to do a company investigation.
You're asking... Okay. Okay.
Do you know clarification? Just to leave the evidence that he knew about this situation.
Yes, while starting said internet squabble.
Covered tracks and enable the weird dude because God, God,
forbid Stephen have to find a new editor even do the public apology that I asked him to when he falsely threw me under the bus.
I believe Stephen realized I wasn't lying and instead of talking to me directly or apologizing to me, he just deleted the thread.
So if Stephen wasn't hiding anything or wasn't suss, why didn't he just asked me about the crew stuff?
He just assumed automatically that I was lying and started yelling.
You knew about that, though. You knew that he had the email. You told us that the email.
The email correspondence you had, you...
You...
Means he knew about the call existing.
Oh, really defensive, very sus.
What exactly was the movie?
Yes, I asked him to make a public apology.
A public apology for doing something far before he ever hired him?
Like, what the fuck is he going to do?
Here, Stephen, do you think just...
Again, again, if he was inappropriate about minors, that is a very different story.
But that's not fully substantiated.
And I'm sorry, but it's not.
thread putting your fingers in your ears and going la la la la la la would make this all go away more of the story is to fire creepy people on your staff even if it's inconvenient to you
Stephen and it's clear to me that you do not wish to correspond with any direct communication despite you personally requesting so to say i'm disappointed with your behavior would be a severe understatement
called me a liar publicly without even asking for the truth to further clarification go on go on go on
to other uh workplaces should act in the way that she wants them to so if she see if she's someone that should be fired they should do it because she wanted to not because they've actually done
something wrong with in their workplace just because she perceived that it was wrong.
Yeah.
She wants perceived wrongs.
This is fucking insane.
Want to get involved is that your name was attached and you're more interested in damage control for your brand than your brand's actual integrity.
I feel like you wouldn't even be having this.
Memory leak time.
Yep, it's memory leak time. When I see it do that, it fucking is memory league time.
Hope that you can be professional about this going forward, even though.
frankly, you haven't been through this entire nightmare ordeal.
But clearly, that is not possible.
Hey, Rachel.
Embry. Great point.
Why didn't you stop being friends with Lily Orchard sooner then, Kim?
Oh, you want to see the manager.
Like Karen Prime.
Yeah, yep, yep.
Thank you.
Thank you, Sy.
Again, why didn't you distance yourself from Lily Orchard sooner?
These allegations had been going long before you distance.
yourself from her.
Shouldn't you have ran away?
I have not seen Kim Possible's
why I stopped being friends with Lily video.
I wonder if there's something tying
in that video.
Yeah.
Go see.
Oh, God.
That may be record.
Second part on Kim.
We could do it. I don't mind the second part on Kim.
She claimed the proof was too triggering for her to look at.
That means there's
proof.
What a fucking moron.
Lily did a fanfic with all those problems a decade ago.
I can't.
You knew.
You cannot be throwing glass stones.
I'm fucking stones in the glass house fucking me.
Class stones.
Every time you, there's like a, there's like a 50-50 chance.
Oh, you fuck.
I don't get it.
It's she supposed to even be revealing right now.
No.
KP's emails are so awful if Yan Depp was receiving them all four of his email, Vixel be valid.
Thank you.
Oh, fuck me.
To start things off, I replied to you on Twitter the way I did out of frustration due to the misinformation you have about me.
God, so loud!
And how you were talking about me without ever contacting me directly prior.
I'd imagine you feel the same frustration if someone had incorrect info about you, and probably you do, with how some people went after you in the past and with false information.
I truly don't want to engage an internet drama that operates off of gossip, but the amount of misinformation you have is staggering.
So I will set the record straight.
As far as you and me are dumbfounded.
We hung out and that was it.
I'm not sure what you saw in hanging out with me, but we just went our separate ways.
All in all, I feel blindsided by your emails, Rachel.
How can you say that you come to me as an impartial individual?
As far as Chris goes, I heard through secondhand sources of his stupid joke that Chris made amends with you and that was the end of it.
Only for me to get accusatory emails months later?
Yes.
You never reached out to me officially.
So how could I acknowledge anything besides, but finally, I do have a lawyer and I will.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, why did you cut that?
officially.
So how could I acknowledge anything besides?
Anything. How could I, how could I, how you reached out to me?
How could I, where's the rest of the email?
But finally, I were emails months later?
You never reached out to me officially.
So how could I acknowledge anything besides, but finally, I do have a lawyer.
Why did you?
Why was that cut?
Because he heard it from Chris and that you two had a call where you, and we all heard it.
You do accept his apology.
Yeah.
You were mad about it, but you accept it.
And then you sit on it and you want a life ruinate him.
Oh, my God.
Do you all remember the old Soigie?
Smiley face emoji.
Sex for you.
Thank you for the sex.
Every.
It's all good.
I already have these things.
Don't worry.
Even if she doesn't accept it, she acknowledges that he apologized.
And if that's not enough for her, obviously, it isn't.
That won't be enough for her.
But to Chris, at that point, it seems like everything goes.
got squared away.
Why does this stute sound he was in special ed?
You know why.
He's a brony.
Clip-clop.
Again,
I think it may be crazy to say, but we are high, I have lowered the video so much, guys.
I'm sorry, it's, they, it's caught, like, the audio stuff is crazy.
Free voice actors, fuck me.
Again, we have the op-block are, hot.
I'm hypercritical and we are hypercritical to a degree where the insanity confuses me.
I'm, at this point, Greg could tell you, I see patterns.
But Greg, do you think I'm right this time?
I don't want to be wrong, Sean, to pretend like you didn't ask me anything.
I was right.
We'll gladly bring him into our conversation to clear the air if needed.
Now that it has come to this degree of misinformation,
on your end. I will do everything within my power to clear the record for the truth.
Thank you, so. Remember, the Vod will always be up. We don't take Vods down.
So you guys are... Unless something happens, but...
Yeah, unless something happens, or I have to re-upload it anytime. I'll download it if I need to, but yes.
Hope this information helps and convinces you to reconsider your position. In regards, Stephen.
Stephen, you've already passed a lot of time I've given you to deal with the situation privately.
I was outlining my first email, which I feel...
You, he could, he, what, what is, what is going on?
He doesn't need to answer you. Oh, you've passed you a lot of time.
What a lot of time!
She gave an arbitrary number.
Brony actually explains too much.
True. She gave an imaginary number in her mind.
What the fuck? She gave an ultimatum. If you do not do what I request within seven days, you will be
canceled.
What are you fucking Samara?
Like, the, what the fuck?
It feels ridiculous, considering you had access to this information for more than a year, regardless
of where it came from.
If you're now going to sit there and threaten me with legality after this many private
attempts at communication, I will not...
Oh, yes, chat.
It's time to feed the dog.
Thank you, thank you.
Thank you.
Is this...
Have we...
Is this our biggest goal?
Have we done a three-month?
This is the first time we've gone this many, I think.
So, so what I have done?
is I've...
Yes, thank you, thank you, Chad.
Here she's coming.
What I do, what I've done now is the first two goals are like, like five.
And then the first two goals are like fives.
And then I put any, any donation.
Because it's a higher, I don't I'm not going to ask people to pay five all the time.
It's time to feed the poppers. It's time to give her treats.
It's time to feed that.
talk now on the uplock stream tonight come on leah good girl look at her look at her yeah yeah let's go chat what that dog doing being the fucking the cutest that's ever existed let's get back in this crazy fucking video i'll be entering any further discussion with you after this last correspondent's getting contact with this point the reality is i'm incredibly uncomfortable with your
general in which your previous email and how your public correspondence has been addressed, as well as you in general.
So I'll keep this as brief as possible.
To add to this whole, I will fight you for the truth, tone, your whole last email and the Twitter threat is drenched with,
undermines the actual issues of the conversation. On top of assuming I'm going to publish falsifiable information.
Is that how you talk to someone you's treated poorly by a current employee in the past?
Based on all your previous conversations, forgive me if you're not on the top of my list of people who treat me with assumed respect.
In regards to your response on my Twitter posting, your heated response calling me a liar and questioning my character publicly is unacceptable.
How you were particularly feeling at the time doesn't justify calling people names and treating...
Is that a question?
Could that not be said to you when you call a man autistic?
And then when he says it's really something I don't disclose because it's traumatic to me,
you hand wave it?
Interesting.
Why does everyone get to be...
Why are you the only one who gets to be emotional?
Again, I'll say it again.
What Chris said is inappropriate.
What D.A. Games does is so...
incredibly abhorrent that the fact that the allegations and interviews are stuck in a video that
like this, we have to now fucking redo it. I'll fucking personally redo it. This is insane.
This is an insane in the Brano's statement.
As well, you could have DM me as requested several times or asked for further information
before responding in such a tone. When all I ask regarding this exchange is for you to
apologize publicly for something you did.
publicly, you instead doubled down in the last message and tried to justify your feelings.
No, you want him to fire Chris and you want him to apologize for hiring Chris.
That's not what you said. You want him to apologize for hiring Chris.
That's what you want. Stop lying.
Because that's what you wanted. That's why you're calling them out about Chris's behavior.
You want them to apologize and fire him. Stop lying. People can read through it. Listen.
Motherfucker, not everybody's autistic.
People can read through the fucking lines.
And only privately at that.
This doesn't strike me as someone is dealing with the situation with the utmost maturity,
but a desperate attempt to distract from the actual issues and make yourself the victim.
The fact that you're going about this route again, even after I proved I wasn't lying the first time, is fucking deranged.
Regarding your access to the information about the incident regarding Chris.
And your insistence that I was the one who directly discussed the information about Chris instead of your general access to said information seems to be misguided.
Do I have to tell you directly what to do with an employee incident of this scale for anything to happen?
Oh my God
He said that he
Came on your panties
Holy fuck dude
I need to
Like now I'm getting angry
Now I'm actually getting angry
I am not defending this guy
But holy shit is she pissing me off
No no he fell onto her panties
He fell on your like
And you didn't prove you weren't like
Aye aye aye aye aye
I
I can't
I'm not defending this guy
I'm not like I'm not
But like this is insane.
Feeling a little parisocial with how proud I am with the ops.
Not so little guys anymore.
We're becoming an actual company now.
Smiling face with tear emoji.
Oh, thanks, guys.
Thank you, Mitch.
That's really, really sweet.
Oh, like what the fuck?
Like this is insane.
I shared the confirmation I had from both
that you had said information,
which came off as indifference based on what I felt,
as well as your correspondence
No, no.
The shit you said was we tried to reach out.
We hadn't heard anything.
As well as there being a public safety report available
with public contact information present
for over a year regarding the situation.
How did you?
The public safety report, we don't even know about.
We had to find it.
Nobody knew about this except your little tiny community.
Why was Chris never called out
for your public safety report?
Come on.
You.
You're acting like he knew immediately.
Like, come on.
I don't understand how it's particularly relevant.
How you learned your employees sexually harassed someone in the past.
It just matters that it happened.
Even assuming you didn't know about Chris and action.
He didn't, okay.
Time out, time out, time out, time out.
I really need to make this clear.
He didn't sexually harass you in the way that you're describing.
He told an off-color and disgusting joke to other people,
and it came back to her.
He didn't do it to your face.
He made an off-color joke about you.
That again, I still think is incredibly disgusting
and disrespectful.
and something he should have never done,
including the fact that if he did have minors in a server,
that he allowed Will to be disgusting.
But you cannot, like, this is insane.
I still emailed you directly disgusted before it reached this point,
and you seem to ignore that email and only responded to a second
after my frustration became clearer.
To be frank, it doesn't matter how the perpetrator feels how the resolution went,
but the fact that it happened in the first place is unacceptable.
Chris is...
What?
You accepted his apology.
You did it so you could gay op the guy with a recorded call.
You lying, bitch.
Like, it is actually annoying.
I shouldn't be agreeing with Chris.
I should be pissed off at him.
I should be pissed off at everybody in this scenario.
But the fact that you recorded him,
you're asking him about his employers.
You wanted to take his employers down far below.
before you knew about their other improprieties.
And again, Will is a fucking pedophile.
I'll fucking stand on that.
You don't have fucking minors in your Discord
and have a fucking NSFW chat.
I don't give a fuck.
You're talking about shit.
You called a minor mature for their age.
You fucking pedophile.
That's always the red flag.
The biggest of red flags.
You've got to be kidding me.
Like, you've got to be kidding me.
Chris thought he was apologizing in private.
And you accepted his apology.
You did.
When you, yes, yes, yes, every time that he's apologizing profusely to you, he's agreeing with you.
And he thought the apology was private.
And when you asked to have zero contact, he agreed and said that was for the best.
And he apologized.
I apologize again.
Again.
She doesn't need to accept his apology,
but she did it for the purposeful fact of recording that call
and later using it against him.
And other people he's associated with.
Exactly.
That is my issue.
Your video with the fucking allegations against DA games
is so fucking tainted because you are a weasley little bitch.
And I would say that about a guy, too.
He apologized.
He said he legitimately did the dark place meme, but meant it sincerely, which is actually insane.
Yes, where's the apology to Lily's victims if you care so much?
That's what I would like to see.
Not a fucking video being like, I regret my attachment.
to Lily Orchard. Where's the fucking apology? Where's your email? I should email you.
Be like, why did you associate yourself with Lily? Sounds like you shouldn't be on the platform
anymore. I don't believe in that. Should I email the people, all the people you've worked with?
And be like, why did you associate with this person?
Very obviously going to tell you whatever you need to hear to keep his job. It's all right, guys.
The criminal said the crime actually wasn't so bad after all. He didn't commit a crime.
Fun fact, he didn't commit a crime.
I actually need to say that.
If you're so pressed about what Chris said, take it in civil court.
Again, I don't approve of people suing each other.
But this is insane.
The only reason she stopped associating with her was because her other friends did, yeah.
And again, you blamed them for having minor.
mods, which I agree. But you are throwing stones on the glass house when you hired a minor
as an editor. And then you said that said minor gave you fucking PTSD.
Fuck off. Like, this is insane. You mishandled everything.
What is this now? Because KJ just sent this to me.
I, uh, uh-oh. KP. It seems like shit's leaking from your Discord now.
I don't want to explain this or talk about this yet because I didn't want to make myself about the situation,
but I feel too many people will not focus unless I do. So I'm going to explain why KP was
initially involved. About a month ago, Sabre's victim wanted to reach out to me with their story.
They saw I was managing to get the word out on Griffin's actions, and then with Saber as is a good friend and
partially tied, it led them to be more confident about coming forward to their story. Statements they said
about me. At the time I was handling a lot, including being suicidal, oh my fucking Christ.
I don't care that you were suicidal. Fucking insane. I know two people run this account. I don't care. I don't
care.
The topic was triggering for Sophie on a personal level.
Unfortunately, covering her story at the time was something we could not handle.
I want to fucking crash out.
I swear to Christ, I want to crash out.
I swear to Christ.
I want to crash out.
But it will get there.
I see.
I did, however, know that KP was already working on a video about him.
Before this year, I never had a conversation.
relationship with K.P. All I knew that she was about her that was years ago, I remember hearing
her, she paid her team in exposure. As more and more was coming out about Black Griffin, she
started responding to it. Her and others on her team reached out to me asking to help cover
DA Games. I told them I knew nothing about DA Games was already very preoccupied and felt
it was very out of my Brony Fandomcentric wheelhouse. KP had room in her server for people to talk about
DA Games. I mentioned that because she
made another room for to discuss Black Griffin, I joined her server because obviously I knew a lot
about the subject and thought I could help resolve any misconceptions and add insight if necessary.
In a call, they had, I joined and was informed about the DA game situation. Later on, later, more
privately, I was informed on the coming video on Saberspark and KP's own firsthand experience with him.
Both with DA games and Saberspark, there was actually serious problems. And those problems were all I was
told. That means, hey, fun fact, she was already making this before a fucking victim ever came
around. So this whole fucking story about them was still going to happen. And then the victim was just a
convenient fucking thing. And again, I will say accuser and not victim, because I can't prove half the
shit that she's fucking saying out loud. Uh, these two, there are two people running the fan,
the Brony fan don't account. You're okay. I know there's, it's fine. Literally.
we were not further involved. I did not pitch this to KP. I suggested the victim talked
to her until a week and a half ago, that was it.
A week and a half ago! She tacked this on a week and a half ago. She tacked this on a week and a half ago.
A week and a half ago.
About a week and a half ago,
keep you messaged me with the finalized testimony and already prewritten statements for us to use,
again, it's fucking, you should not pre-write other people's statements.
Okay.
pre-written statements on other people's behalf always looks like you're fucking putting it in.
We were not asked, only given a statement that claimed both I and Sophie talked to the victim extensively, which was not true.
Yes, I do know that, yes.
Directed the victim to KP in the first place.
Yeah, I got the answer from them.
Promoted the video and is now trying to cover his own butt.
Yes, indeed. I was just about to say that. We'll get there.
Thank you, Sam.
Trigger warning. The following is a testimony of rape, but the Saberspark, two isolated incidents.
We bong, as well as a YouTuber. I love Kim Possible a lot, have talked to the victim extensively
and exposed video, okay? I did investigate the victim prior and had no reason to doubt them or their
motives. I did not, however, have extensive conversation with them, and Sophie had no involvement at whatever.
So I ignored the pre-written statement because I believe the victim, I posted the,
testimony. KP told me to take it down because I was too early.
She hadn't explained that she wanted to post it on the day of the video release.
She also wanted me to make sure I was posted at a specific time.
Knowing that the victim had been talking with her, I went along with the plan.
I assumed that it was the plan that the victim had agreed to as well.
And I would, you know what's fucked?
You know how I know that this person is covering their ass and also lying?
In my opinion, in this statement, they also included the throwaway at of the opposing,
accuser.
Supposed.
Yes.
Supposed accuser.
They included their at.
If we could get it, you know, guys, you know what you know what you want to do, just get
fucking screenshots of these for later, chat.
You know what to do.
Make sure you have screenshots of everything.
Make a thread.
KJ has it.
If KJ.
doesn't already have it, you know what it probably does.
Remember, make threads, people.
Whenever shit like this happens, we make threads.
testimony was posted again on May 1st.
The video was released shortly after.
You can see for yourself my reaction at the time.
I was trying to be generous both because at the time I thought it was only not her understanding the problem prior to the releasing publicly.
And because I wanted her to hear me out and remove the video.
Bunk.
Hey, I know you're probably swamped right now.
I don't want it to come off as an attack or add any people attacking you.
But I'm currently watching the video and I'm really disappointed.
I don't think it's appropriate for the memes.
to halt the video every few seconds or for a lot of it to be discussing squabbles instead of serious
allegations. I haven't gotten to this most serious parts of it because of this is front-loaded with your
personal defense for you.
I don't think, I don't even think that Sabre information should be in the same video at all
because shared and pushed to the back of the story.
The DA game series that should have been in the front, your response, and defense at the end.
Every time with Sabre,
allowed to be entirely removed from the video entirely removed in a different video.
And your mocking voiceovers also ruined the credibility.
It all comes across as childish when there are extremely important things in the video and mix than the rest.
I'm messaging you instead of making a public statement because like I said, there is a lot of awful
things that I want you to know to bring the light. I don't think of it bad intentions, but I don't
think this video would only harm causes. And I don't want people to say it's all just drama simply
because of the exhausting video.
Here's my issue.
You can't claim that you know that all of this is bad and then say, well, I didn't vet the victim extensively enough.
Because I immediately off-ripped, believed them.
Now, I know that there are other statements by this person's alleged former roommate.
Bonk is one of the people that runs this brony fan don't account.
It's Bonk and and, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Sophie from what I know.
Now again, I will say this.
It's very interesting that you're like, oh, I offer it, believed the victim.
But now you're like, well, I didn't extensively vet them.
Incredibly suspicious.
Incredibly crazy.
I'll think about it, but I'm currently exhausted.
Think about what?
I thought you were implying that I should take that the video.
Uh, Ibank goes on to say, I'm very worried that the video will be used to the huge.
stopping point for the discussions about DA games and Saberspark. Yeah.
We'll get to the Saberspark allegations. I need to make them very clear.
I didn't realize this was going to be how it was formatted. I didn't want to make the statement.
But I don't fucking care about this anymore. I'm very worried about the, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm too tired of comment right now. I'm in an hour or 20 minutes so far. I'm finding a very,
yeah, this is, I've been told the rape allegations are a small segment at the very end.
Okay? Because it sounds like that's all this person has.
The video is unlisted.
I'll discuss it later with team members.
I know you.
Thank you for taking the steps, though.
I don't fucking care.
Even at this point, I was giving her the benefit of the doubt.
I talked with her and called her and called about the problems she told me was surprised by the reactions because her team and the victim viewed it prior and liked it.
I don't, I don't realize.
I didn't realize the time she was lying.
The victim had not been shown the video prior.
She was shown a much smaller segment of the video that was actually related to her story.
Learning this and seeing how KP was reacting to things in my DMs was how what made me realize she's much worse than just tone deaf.
Is there anything else to be said on Twitter?
People are assuming me as bad as people I covered.
I'm going to bite Amy's head off.
I cannot add any additional who's Amy?
Is that the victim?
Or the accuser?
Sabry Sparks Accuser? I don't know.
Did these fuckers just out the accuser?
Did these people just out the accuser?
No, who is Amy?
Amy knew is not a victim.
Okay?
It's fucking, I don't know what's like, who is Amy?
I don't care.
Cy, this isn't helping.
Yeah, cartoonish got you.
I know.
I stopped talking to her immediately.
I watched the video, she sent me by, I thought it was really well covered and you can find my comment in the video still.
This study is going to be long.
I'll tell you tomorrow.
about why I left the ball.
Oh, my God.
Another problematic person I'm okay.
Why I feel suicidal.
I don't care that this person feels suicidal.
A week and a half ago.
Amy knew his friends with the victim.
Okay.
I don't care that you feel suicidal.
I'm going to be honest.
I don't care that this person feel suicidal.
I don't care.
I like,
uh, bro couldn't even apologize directly to me for blaming me for the KP's skit clip.
Yeah, I saw that.
They were defending them very long until public opinion couldn't do anything.
It's very interesting.
We will get to what the accuser has said out loud.
We'll get there.
Hell, it doesn't even matter how I feel about it.
Still, if you were so concerned with my personal opinion on matter, to the point whether it would directly dictate your decision to keep Chris on staff or not,
I do not, for the life of me, understand why you didn't reach out to me, directly or indirectly through our friends.
Great job updating me on the current status of Chris's employment, even now, by the way.
Good job.
10 out of 10.
Regardless, this isn't a joke, and your insist as such is the underlying problem of this whole situation.
How is it a fucking joke to say you ejaculated on your boss's clothing and say that?
Because it was.
It was a joke.
It was a poor joke, but it was a joke.
Are you saying he really did it?
is he told you he didn't.
And you said yes.
That to other men multiple times.
It cannot and should not be belittled as just drama.
Why would I have gone through the trouble of corresponding with DA games?
I'm so, you know what, straight up?
I'm sorry it is just drama.
I'm going to be honest.
It is just drama.
I'm sorry.
It is, I'm sorry that you feel this way.
I'm telling you right now.
his joke about ejaculating on your underwear is drama.
I'm very sorry to tell you this.
Welcome to the internet and being a public person.
Did he commit a crime?
No, it's just drama.
It sucks to say that.
It's really shitty because fuck am I annoyed.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, that actually makes me really upset to say,
but it is just drama.
And I still.
I still don't like him that much.
But he literally, yes, you made it drama.
Fowgli said he faced planted into her panties.
I know.
Having a safety report because if I just thought it was just a joke.
I was and am worried about the children Chris
and the greater DA games community still have access to.
Even if I had forgiven Chris for some reason, it wouldn't be relevant.
But you cannot verifiably prove that Chris is a predator.
Again, I need to state that in this vision.
video, I have not been shown that Chris is a predator.
Or has any improprieties around kids.
Will?
A hundred percent so.
A lot of stuff thrown at Will.
But what do I know?
Goat Caddo.
There was a lot of information that we kind of premiered on this fucking stream.
I'm letting you know there's just a lot.
Even still, you see to show Angelo.
that I got at Chris's confession on record.
What, Greg?
No, it's just a lot.
We're in hell together.
Yeah, we're in hell together.
In comparison, you know, what he actually confessed to you with your comments stating,
are you going to record the call without telling me the same way you did Chris?
To be clear, he is not the victim.
Full stop.
Neither are you, for that matter, Mr. Truth Seeker.
Publicly throwing the actual recipient under the bus
and signing with the sexual harasser just because he did not know he was going to be on record
as a state of your concern, on top of being incorrect about your information is one of the most idiotic parts of this whole ordeal.
I felt it was very obvious that the intention was a recording for the public record
and a possible angle interpretation of him being blindsided by.
by a bad joke to turn in public because I want to be a bitch and cause problems is just insulting and disrespectful on so many levels.
Or how you put it, publicly discussing half-truths against sympathy and slander, your name.
Spoiler, this isn't about you.
Additionally, the fact that I went out of my way to privately talk.
No, it is about him when you constantly say that he's employing somebody and you demand employment records.
It is about him when you say his name over and over.
What? What?
To you directly after several attempts to seek resolutely.
with the staff and wanted to ask on the Twitter thread and still did not receive a response until sending a second email outlining my frustration. It's just ridiculous. I then even provided additional proof of racism and Nazi imagery that Chris and Will displayed. There are
Will is not under his employ.
What you showed was Will.
I didn't see Chris's fucking account there.
Or even incidents of Lollicom slash child pornography and sharing that material.
Which you said was morally gray.
In this video, you discussed that, like, Lollie Khan is like a weird area, if I remember correctly.
I could be getting that wrong, but you said that like artistic expression.
The morally gray thing was the, was dating 18-year-olds.
But like...
Legally gray, something like that.
Yeah, legally gray, something like that.
Legally gray dating an 18-year-old.
But when you discussed Lollie-Con, you said it was like expression.
Like, if I, like, ay, y, y'i-ye.
Hold on.
She didn't condemn it.
That's...
Right?
She didn't condemn the, like, the things of Lollicom.
And yes, you were friends with Lillie who made it.
Didn't Lillie make Lolliecon art, like a CP fanfic?
You have no right.
You have no fucking right.
An incest, Dapy fanfic for her point.
You have no...
You want to know what's crazy?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
if I remember correctly, calling out Chris would have been still around the time she was friends with Lily.
Oh, my God.
Don't go do it.
Quite, don't do it.
I can't.
With minors, allegedly accidentally on the document I linked, as well as Will dating a minor in 2015.
If we only knew what Sabur Spark thought about Lollicon.
Oh, wait.
As this following grew, Cal became very publicly outspoken with this dislike of the Lollicon and similar taboo art styles.
For those who are not familiar with them, let's just say it's a...
This additional document has been publicly available for over two years.
The DIA Games community server has had pedophiles that...
So it's over two years. Weird. You were still friends with Lillie Orchard.
How long was Lilley Orchard stuff?
around. Years? More than two. Interesting. Interesting.
Uh, so KP's been friends with both Bonk and Lily while they were both adverly into that shit.
So I don't know about Bonk being friends and or into LollieCon. But yeah, Lily for sure.
That were quietly kicked out if slash when discovered instead of publicly acknowledged. One has a
motherfucking bugshot on the document. Since this all seems to have gone ignored until now,
on top of the stage report of the incident being publicly available for over a year,
this suffifies to me my original assumption that you do only care when you have consequences for your
lack of action. God forbid someone is a creep at my staff. Just don't tell the public he works for me.
There does not seem like common sense to fire someone who talks this way about others,
especially women, regardless of when it happened. And the interest of openness, though, I am open to do an
on the record three-way conversation between you and myself to get to the truth of the matter at a later time,
but that will be at your discretion as his boss and at his comfort level. As I want to honor
request to not be involved anymore and not emotionally distress him. But why, why are
you redacting Chris.
She's doing the fucking Mama Nax thing.
Okay. The fact nobody else
has mentioned it has made me question my memory, but I'm pretty sure
KP was the one who played the one MLP game, Lily was associated with that
contained our word and foal our word.
Thank you, Axis. I don't know any of those words you just said.
Yes.
So Lily Orchard made an RPG.
game maker that was like with ponies and it had CSA incest, non-con, if I remember correctly.
Yeah.
But why? Why is K.P. wanting to do a call?
No, no, this is.
No, this is...
Oh, is that the response?
Oh, wait, or no, is this her or is this him?
I don't fucking know anymore.
I'm lost, chat.
I think this is her.
But why are you already had a call?
But she already had a call. Chris.
Why did she want another call?
Yeah, you, like, I don't fuck me.
It wasn't, I don't think it was KP, it was the Nintendo gal.
Okay, okay.
The consistent implications of untruthfulness until this happens.
You can reach out in the future if he is interested and uncomfortable about a possible conversation.
Lastly, as I don't want to get too personal, but is absolutely laughable that you consider your romantic interest in me in our friendship ending as mutually parting ways.
What?
Why you're bringing that up?
Like, what fucking planet are you on?
Is that how you summarize every one of your failed courtships?
Let me refresh you on the experience.
After a month of spending time together in person and your insistence that we were just friends, your goal seemingly wasn't said to spend time with me and see if I would change my mind and be open to a romantic relationship.
At that time, I felt like I finally had found a like-minded contricator and friend close to distance to me.
I think I even said something along the lines of, these feel like dates.
I'm just making sure we're hanging out as friends, right?
After you do your distance, I felt manipulated in pressure to say I was open to dating in order to not lose that friendship.
You then dated.
At the beginning of this video was all about her own personal breaks.
Every man wants to fuck her.
But here she is doing it again. A personal gripe and a personal gripe responds to talking.
Let me talk to your manager about this personal grab. I have this employee.
Every man that she's ever come in contact with is sexually interested in her?
Like, I'm so confused now.
Does she, like, sexualize her in me?
I don't know, but it's also that.
I'm not, okay, I'm going to be upfront.
I'm going to be upfront when I say this.
People are not going to like this.
If you say I was pressured to saying I was open to dating because I didn't want to lose a friendship,
you cannot rewrite history on that one.
I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I know that men in women.
women have experienced this.
I have experienced this.
Do you know why I say that?
Because I know internally that's me rewriting the way I actually felt.
And it was me not being like a person that should have like done the right thing.
You're not taking responsibility for that.
You're not taking responsibility for it.
Yeah.
It's kind of a shitty thing to do too.
But I can understand.
See, I would understand if she.
felt awkward in that situation with like with another grader or like a like a male grader in
that space type of thing. But she's specifically saying to not lose that friendship. And that's
that's different.
I gave sister over me and then asked about my dating availability immediately after that ended.
I tried to play it off but was uncomfortable with the whole situation. I felt like I was only
important to you if I was datable and a backup option of that. But I've been treated the same way as a new
potential friend if I was male identifying. This is the whole reason I went to your staff in the
first place and not you directly. I felt objectified by my direct experiences
towards you and did not wish to repeat set experiences for the sake of my own mental health.
But you implied you needed the clarification.
Things that can't be proven.
So hearsay.
Here you go, buddy.
At this point, I feel exacerbated with the favor I'd be given you and others, personally and professionally.
So I'll be ending the conversation here. To remind you, I am not a third party in the situation
trying to get cheap or easy views off a popular content creator. This is how Chris treated me behind
behind my back. This is how he never owned up to those actions till I had to find out about them
myself. This is how his behavior has continued. This is how the greater D.A. Games community
could be potentially harmful to children. This is on top of my dad.
of Chris's misogynistic anti-Semitic behavior that I stupily force myself tolerate when he worked for me.
And the fact that I have to sit here and fight and scream and kick for...
I thought he wasn't your employee.
Remember what she kept saying?
Remember how she's saying in and out?
He wasn't my employee?
I didn't...
I brought you as a friend.
Because he wasn't an employee because she wasn't paying him.
But she doesn't pay anyone.
So she has no employees.
Except for the child when she's getting free work.
But she never paid the child.
So it...
Is she culpable for child working laws?
Yes.
And he did own up to it and apologize when he was confronted with it.
And because he didn't, like, you two weren't talking.
And you two kind of, at that time kind of agreed to, like, there was like, when I don't talk to somebody, I'm not going to fuck it.
Like I said, my name is Earl.
Cross you off my list.
Because why would he want to make amends with you?
He kind of knew the, like the fucking, the bridge was burned.
And when he, when you come up to him about it, he is.
He is actually incredibly remorseful.
Are you calling him fucking sociopathic?
You weren't going to let this go regardless.
You're lying.
Anyone to take this seriously is so emotionally draining, triggering, and insulting.
This whole situation has been a nightmare, but I'm not going to sit here and let everyone else pretend it's just a joke out of public convenience.
And I would bet good money that he's still on your payroll.
I'm at a loss of words.
Frankly, I do not have the patience or emotional bandwidth for your tone, your constant visualization,
or to discuss this further with you at this point, for your own perceived direct benefit.
To be blunt, you trigger the shit out of me, Stephen.
And I still tried multiple.
times to communicate with you, but ultimately was met with silence until now.
You were screaming on Twitter like a child at me for months after trying to get any kind of
internal word on Chris and the information being in the public eye, and you still haven't fucking
apologize for any of it.
How do you think this makes me feel?
Why does he have to apologize?
He doesn't need to tell you anything.
What are you doing?
You're ruining this.
There are really things that Chris should answer for, and he did to you privately.
The other stuff about DA games and the server, this is what's pissing me off.
The DA games allegations, interviews with people at hand are now stuck in this fucking thing.
It feels like it takes back seat to her personal hangups.
Yes.
Yeah.
Do you know how fucking, we haven't gotten to the actual allegations, right?
No, we haven't.
Not saber sparks.
We haven't even gotten a saber spark yet.
This is, like, I'm actually mad for the victims.
I'm actually mad for the victims of the DA game stuff now.
I am.
profusely frustrated.
I don't think I've ever been this angry covering everything in my fucking life.
You are disgusting.
You are deplorable.
You are self-righteous, self-serving.
And I get it.
Listen,
if you want to get in contact, KP, I'm more than willing to reach out to you.
I am more than willing to hear you out.
But it will be public.
It will not be one of your fucking recorded private calls.
This is a public call out.
You want to talk?
Get on this fucking.
this fucking broadcast and talk.
I'm sure you won't do it.
You'll probably be like, oh, I'm too small.
But guess what, motherfucker?
Do it.
Because right now, you have been incredibly disrespectful to everything.
To everything.
And I'm sorry.
Fuck it.
I'll even say this.
The person who is accusing.
Sabrespark needs to make more public than just fucking two cons.
One of which she got the wrong.
This is a fun fact for you.
It wasn't two years.
It was two cons in the same year.
I have a problem with this.
Because when you make anonymous claims like this,
but we can't support other stuff.
And it's all fucking, he said, she said,
you delegitimize that person's.
actual allegations.
You want to fix this video?
Fucking own up to everything.
Own up to everything.
You want to come onto the broadcast?
You and I both know people who can make that liaison happen.
That person, I can get one person on my side,
what person on your side?
If you really want it that way.
I'm like actually annoyed.
I am done being nice.
But only then to even be taking it seriously because I might make a video and hurt other people's reputation really shows me how being affected by all this really matters in long run to you.
Sexual harassment, use of Nazi imagery, pedophilia, fine to sweep it on the rug.
Just don't...
The use of Nazi imagery was not directed towards you.
I want to say what KP is doing is life-ruination shit leaves people with no way out when they fuck up with the preemptive to destroy their careers, leaving no rumor for forgiveness, making victims.
feel less safe.
Repeat that.
That did give...
Wait, I died.
Rose, I don't know what that.
The rose, I got to die.
My brain hurts.
Repeat that did give K.P.
give the wrong year.
No.
Did K.P. give the wrong year?
No.
In the written statement,
it has now come out and we'll kind of go over it because the individual who's,
the accuser has made statements.
It wasn't 2012 and 2013.
It was allegedly two cons in 2012.
They just got something incorrect.
And again, that's fine.
But this is why you work it out with them.
Liz, Lily has falsely accused multiple people of being a Nazi, a CP have, or in a PDF.
What do you mean?
Yeah.
None of what's happening is going on.
Don't bring it up on Twitter.
Ramesses, you bring this upon yourself.
Part whatever. Chris isn't the video.
And again, don't, you fucking...
I hate you.
I hate you with my soul because you're including memes in a fucking professional call-out video saying that you're a victim.
And again, he did make a joke, an off-color joke.
He didn't sexually harass you to your face.
He did it behind your back.
It's still not right.
But he apologized profusely to you.
And you accepted it out of the fucking thought process of I'm going to get this motherfucker later.
Because you weren't satisfied.
until he was fired and publicly shamed.
You could have done that.
But you didn't because you weren't happy that when your call or your allegations or whatever the fuck
wasn't taken seriously enough, you wanted him to be fired by everybody.
And yes, another segment about Chris.
When are we going to get the Sabrespark?
Because we haven't.
Victim.
Chris isn't the victim.
I can't believe I have to even have the segment.
But with the implication of Stevens, what are you going to do?
Record me comment on top of Chris's.
statement talking about the recording being without his knowledge.
Let's just clear this up.
Sabrespark doesn't want to be recorded by you.
He's not talking about Chris.
He's talking about you.
So firstly, as already stated, I thought it was obvious that a call-up was being recorded for a safety reason.
Because it's about sexual harassment.
It's not like a fun call.
Like, I thought it was obvious.
Obviously it wasn't.
This isn't just someone calling me a bitch or something, subliminally small.
Like, this is someone using the fact that I am a girl as a way to negatively sexualize me to make themselves feel better.
What?
What? What?
It was partially that you were a woman, but it was also partially that you were his boss and you weren't paying him.
Yeah.
Why don't you include the fact that he had pay discrepancies with you?
Why don't you?
Okay, that's my issue.
Why don't you include that he had paid discrepancies with you?
Why don't you show the fact that you actually paid him?
Hello, Bonk.
It's nice to meet you.
I wasn't planning on name dropping you, Wolfie.
But I would like for you to stop talking about you.
me. Bunk? Hello.
Nice to see you. Glad you're watching the stream. I have issues.
I was going to say, like, I, she's fucking lucky. Chris wasn't in California.
Or he could have gone to his fucking labor board and she would have been fucked.
Bunk, I have issues. When you, when either you or I or I or Sophie talked, you made it a little clear that you kind of knew the, the, how important these.
allegations were. In your response tweet, you said you really didn't talk to the victim that much
and you directed them straight to KP. That is not how you explained it. So are you going to talk
about it now? By all means, fucking comment. Because that's not how you posed it. And that's not how you've
been posing it in multiple, multiple replies.
I'm realizing why my character stills can age so poorly in real time.
Yeah.
Trisha Pettis is having a boy.
I'm not Francis is here.
Francis is back.
He's been a resurrected.
But Francis is back, yeah.
No, I don't need them to come on call.
I'm not going to fucking platform them.
Explain.
I'll let this video play. We'll go.
Additionally, this is someone I trusted enough to represent me at a convention.
I could answer Crescent if you like, but I'm not sure what the discrepancy is.
Very clearly, you are saying that, again, you... I'll pull the tweet up again, because this is an actual problem that I have. Let's go.
But...
Starting from the top, now we're here.
Oh, I probably still had it up.
So, you say about a month that Ghost Sabres' Victim wanted to reach out to me with their story that I saw I was managing this.
Partially Tide, coming forward to the story.
I was handling a lot right now.
Suicidal.
The topic is very triggering for me on a personal level.
Unfortunately covering her story was not at the time.
However, however, know that KP was already working on a video.
So what you're saying here is you did not also attest to the validity of the accuser's claims.
But however, you are speaking on Twitter with full understanding and knowledge that you know who the victim is,
that you understand all of the claims being levied against Sabres Spark.
That's not what you're saying here.
You're backtracking.
You are backtracking.
actively.
Where is this specifically?
We were not able to handle Sabre's victim story personally, but I was aware that somebody else was working
on the video with their own firsthand experience to further validate.
It made a lot sense to suggest that out to KP.
Why did you not express that?
You are talking with absolute certainty.
No, that's not true.
My statements do not contradict.
Okay. Okay. I'll leak DMs. I don't give a fuck.
Let me pull up the DM. Because this is annoying now.
All right, let's go. Let's go.
I'll go over the DMs.
I reach out to you this past Friday, which would have been, what is Friday?
Friday was the third. Oh, sorry, second.
Friday was the second.
Yeah. Listen, my friends, whatever.
Good day. I represent a small commentary YouTube channel. I was wondering if you had comments
regarding the recent KP video. I've seen you've made some comments publicly, but I'm curious
on how the accuser in question reached out to you, or how the story was validated, and how Pink
KP got involved with this with the separate entities. You should know covering the victim's story
the video is irrelevant to anything. It barely existed at all.
I understand that. But...
Unfortunately, it is part of the way this broke.
I strive to get a fuller picture of the narrative, and this happened to be a part of it.
Even if you do not wish to comment on how the story was brought to KP, I am still curious,
how the individual reached out to you, and how you were able to ensure its validity.
The victim saw my coverage on Black of Black Griffin, and how well the reception was to those
who previously felt like they couldn't speak, and wanted to reach out.
This is how I know their identity and was able to judge their credibility.
where is it where is it now because now i'm like actively annoyed you had to scroll down you
yeah scroll down uh uh psh psh psh psh psh psh or did i do it in this one because i have so many of these now
scroll down you didn't keep it uh where'd i go
am i crazy i was not able to handle the the blah blah blah blah blah
specifically with their own their own firsthand experiences to further validate.
You said privately you validated it already.
And then you're like, oh, but I just believed them off rip.
So which is it?
Did you believe them off rip?
Or were you able?
Do you not see how this is contradictory?
You said you were able to validate their story.
and the validity of who they were.
Here, you said you couldn't further validate it.
Or you wouldn't say, you realize this victim is fucked now.
If this person is telling the truth, you are complicit in fucking their story.
And you are too stupid to see it.
Like, I don't understand how you do not see that that is a blatant.
see that that is a blatant contradiction of statements.
The DM you sent me is not consistent with this post at all.
You were suicidal.
Oh, my, Sophie couldn't handle it.
It was most triggering to you.
So which is it?
That it was triggering?
I would, okay.
Yes, I know who they are and I trust them.
I think you sound, you sound in aghartic and seen.
No, he's just very disappointed in you.
I am, how you're handling this.
Yes.
Yeah.
I'm disappointed.
You want to know why?
Because I've went through your Black Griffin stuff.
I actually like that document.
That's hilarious.
You are contradicting yourself.
Oh, my God.
Buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy.
At the outblock, the wife of Black Griffin, Scooteloo's VA tweeted out that this guy made inappropriate comments about the character when she was still a minor.
Bunk, is that true?
the statements don't contradict.
I don't know what your issue is.
Let me say plainly as someone who isn't Thalgy.
You lied in D-Ns to him, and you're saying something differently in public.
Mm-hmm.
Is that what you're saying?
You're saying you'll lie to people behind the scenes, but you'll say the truth in public,
or are you going to say the truth behind the scenes
a lie in public, which is the truth?
Which truth is the one that you want to go with?
That you didn't vet them or that you did vet them?
Yeah, I'm, listen, I'm Italian by nature.
I could be calm about it.
I don't know.
I could be more calm about it, so you will listen.
I'll slow down even my speech.
You told me that you were able to vet this far past the idea of, I just passed it off immediately
to KP.
and then you are saying publicly that you and the other person that run this account
were too suicidal and mentally compromised to verify further parts of the claim.
I need you to understand this.
I'll be a little bit nicer when I say it.
I did not lie. I did not say two different stories.
I bet it. I said I said I wasn't. I was a little bit. I said I wasn't.
going to cover the story, but I did still investigate them.
Where do you say that?
Where do you say that in this public speech as you were denouncing K.P.?
Where did you say that?
Would you like me to reread your statement for you?
And I'll do it clearly so you understand.
Because I think there's an important part where you say it.
Uh, exposure. You also knew about KP's past. Interesting how you know about KP's past dramas too, by the way. I think that that's interesting.
Reached out to me privately. I knew about D.A. Games. Was already very preoccupied and it felt out of my
Brony fandom centric wheelhouse. Obviously, you couldn't cover the DA game stuff. That's fine.
So when we were not personally able to handle the victim's story, I was aware of somebody else who already could with their first end experience to further validate it. It may suggest to reach
out the KP. We were not involved any further. I did not pitch this KP. I suggested to the victim, and until a week
and a half ago, that was it. Prior I had left P's server. I'll explain that in a bit when it's more relevant to.
I did investigate the victim prior and had no reason to doubt them or their motives. I did not, however,
have extensive conversations with them.
So what you're saying is, and Sophie had no involvement at all.
So when you say I had no, we were too mentally compromised to handle the story, we understand what the victim is, I don't know what your level of investigation is.
What is your level of vetting?
knowing that the person in Sabresmark went to a fucking con together?
When I, when somebody asks you if how did you vet this?
And your statement is, I investigated it.
And then now it's like, well, I didn't investigate it enough.
You're literally saying, I like, I like the person enough to believe them off.
rip. Again, this is insane. I'm telling you, this is not how you portray it to every,
and it's not just to me. It's not how you portrayed it. Why are you the one making the public
statement for the victim then? Why are you the one making the public statement for the victim? Why are you
the one making the public statement for the victim? Do you understand that?
when you make the public statement for the victim and then you at their throwaway Twitter,
you are speaking for the victim, you are complicit in the video's creation.
Why are you acting?
I need you to understand this.
Why are you acting like you weren't complicit in this way?
Yes.
Like Quite says, clarifying the metric of what you used would have made it far more trustworthy and a
whatever you're coming from. Yeah. I have never claimed I had physical proof. I have only
claimed I believe that they're trustworthy. I investigated the victim prior and had no reason to doubt
them or their motives. I am sorry. I'm incredibly sorry. But that statement that you just made
actually contradicts this then. So you just believed them. Again, I'm going to hide. I'm going to
highlight your own statement and I need to
I never claim to have any physical proof
how do you know
that the accuser
is connected to Sabre Spark then
because she's showing proof now
and you brought this to a person
who wants to make a video on Sabre Spark
all of these statements are the same
they are not they're not
Greg you're not Greg you're not
they get away from me because I
you're the nicer one.
I don't feel very nice right now.
You're actively trying to both sides this.
That's how this is coming off to me,
someone who has not looked at this yet.
From an outsider's perspective,
looking at your Twitter account,
from what you're saying,
having heard allegations passing it off to somebody else,
trusting it wholeheartedly,
and then saying that you investigated it,
but not enough,
to investigate it yourself,
not enough to vet it properly?
How often do you do this?
You've done a Black Griffin topic?
I don't know who the hell that is.
But Falchie said you didn't go on that one.
How come you couldn't do this one?
Yeah.
What makes this one different?
Is it KP? Is it the KP?
is it the KP Saberspart connection?
Have you guys been taken advantage of by a YouTuber?
We should, like, why aren't you coming forward with that?
Like, if this is,
like, legitimately, if this is triggering to you,
why have you not come over with your statement?
Listen, I think he did all right with it.
I thought it was, the document is okay.
And people are running with it.
Is that going to take the guy down?
I fucking know, it's not really, but...
This is the same thing that happened with Slazo.
Yeah.
Quite is absolutely right.
I'm going to prompt you because I'm really trying to...
He's quite as trying to help you.
Go into detail as much as you can.
The burden of proof that you felt trustworthy, even over-explain it when you can without compromising anyone.
Yeah.
I got, like...
I can apologize for being heated.
I think you're all very stuck in a perspective extremely heated.
I've extremely heated, but you're not open to accepting I have not done what you claimed I did.
I'm sorry.
I'm just letting you know the way you're acting right now.
Whatever you come forward with in the future is going to be highly suspect and critically reviewed by every single person.
And you are going to have a lot harder time going forward if you can't accept that you made a mistake.
Yeah.
Bro, you do in this whole, it's not me, it's everyone else.
It's not doing yourself any favors right now.
I can, listen, let me teach you something real quick.
I'm angry as performative nature because this is my brand.
If you'd like, I could be therapist to me.
So, Bonk.
Your statements do contradict to the greater audience that I have here of over 200 people,
as well as to myself, the person who is presenting this information.
My question to you is this.
Can you fully explain without compromising this person that you vetted them enough that you felt like this was appropriate?
Because you talk with certainty in other spots.
I see.
I'm sorry that you feel that way. I truly am.
I'm not putting things that I have chosen for you.
If you can show with evidence that I'm wrong, I'd love it.
But right now I don't.
And I still believe the accuser.
exists. There are other people that have confirmed it.
But I really think that this is very sad.
It's actually really, really sad.
And I feel bad for this accuser.
If this person really experienced this, which, again, there's a little holes in their story either.
There's the obvious glaring issue of them,
having a crush on Saber Spark that they are obvious to, but say that Saberspark is the one that
took advantage of it.
I'm going to be very honest.
It's not a great look.
And I'm very sorry.
I've only ever claimed that I believe in trust.
I never once claimed that I had information that. I had information that.
that I was withholding.
That's not true because you know the victim.
No, that's not true.
Remember, because you heard the story and you investigated the victim enough to believe that the correlation was there.
Your statement is, okay, brother, or woman, whomever you are.
I have your statement up here.
I have your statement from the DMs.
I'm just going to ask one more time.
How did you fully vet this person?
Because you come off with an air of authority that I don't think you may or may not have right now.
And I'm trying, I'm going to, like I said, the anger thing is performative.
I can be calm.
And it's, I do think that this victim story is screwed now.
and it's actually really sad.
Yeah.
And I kind of agree with Tsai, like, there's an ego issue.
And it's, the victim said that she spoke with a trusted friend who knows Bonk.
Is that Amy New?
Is that the individual, the VA person who knows you?
Is that who it is?
Listen, if that is your evidence, if that person vets it and you went off a testimony alone,
like, can you?
Lost in the world, thank you for the five.
I'll be blunt.
You messed up.
And your reluctance to even listen to how you did puts everything you've done into question.
By looking through their account, there was no reason to believe false claims is something that's aligned with their existing posts or that they're seeking attention.
They've existed in these spaces.
That's not always how the internet works, though.
That's not how the internet works.
It's a very naive way to look at it.
Again.
Yeah, they're in the fandom.
Apparently, they're in a video.
that they have now kind of confirmed who they are.
Not the first time they've gone by testimony alone, so it wouldn't be, again, like, this is the problem.
You are, you...
I want to point out, it's not just Bonk, it's a lot of people that do this across a lot of different...
Yes.
I don't want to say dramas, but a lot of different communities, too.
Not to belabor the point.
Allegedly the victim is in a in a con.
a video from what I understand.
It's posted on the Reddit.
I believe Gamma covered it.
We'll probably try to get to that video.
Again, don't want to belabor the point.
Because, yeah.
As quite says, would you say that it's fair to characterize your argument as there was a good reason for doubt from your perspective, or so you believe them what they told you?
Yeah.
Like, no good reason to doubt them.
Let me know if any of us are missing something.
That is a really good question.
I know it's not definitive.
I've never claimed anything above believing them.
And having looked into them that led me to believing them.
But the statements could have said, I believe the victim in this case.
Or I believe...
There's like a difference between an investigation and believing.
An investigation demands, like,
like evidence.
You have physical things that can prove this.
Believing someone doesn't need isn't an investigation.
You can believe a victim but still ask for proof.
I've had someone come to me about a very big, huge story.
And I don't believe them for shit.
Because I can't vet it.
Yeah.
But like, I think you are now getting somewhere.
Like, you know what?
I'm going to tell you.
you this right now.
I'm with you on this.
And Quite's right.
Is that why you didn't want to pursue it as the guy breaking it?
It's okay.
Like, listen, I actually really accept your statement.
And listen, we'll wait.
Well, listen, we'll wait.
Well, listen, I don't want to detract from you.
I actually think that what you're saying is very important.
I think quite as absolutely.
absolutely correct that that you are getting somewhere.
I did not want to break it because I was not mentally well at the time.
Okay.
Ah.
So let me ask you this.
Were you yourself?
able to ever verify or no.
And it's okay if you don't.
I just want to be honest.
Were you able to verify that?
These two met in person outside of a trusted person's testimony.
And again, I won't make fun of you.
For you for struggling with your mental health.
I just need to.
know this outside of the testimony of someone you may have trusted and looking through their
profile did they show you any proof of the correspondence with Sabrespark specifically I know the
Skype DMs are deleted I understand that but did they show you any other correspondence
or any other evidence that would have connected this?
Because again, I agree with you that KP, I know they have a picture together.
I've seen it, but I cannot share it.
Pretty, uh, Greg, do you have the, the, the, the gamma thread on, on rip?
Did you find that for me?
I don't believe, so let me see if I can.
Yeah.
Because I'm going to, I'm going to ask you a question.
Bunk, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm being legit with you.
I'm not mad at you.
Not disappointed in you.
I do think you got wrapped into something, you and your friend got wrapped into something over your head.
But I'm going to grab a picture and if you can confirm or deny, I guess that's the point that we have.
Because if I can confirm it, you're not, you're not sharing it.
Because a lot of people have come forward with the picture that's like specifically related.
And again,
I want to express this to everybody in chat as well.
Be as respectful as you could possibly be.
I understand, like, we're not going to bach and attack this person.
I want to be very clear.
My performativeness aside.
But the picture is the only evidence that you have.
And then somebody else's testimony.
You are accusing somebody a rape.
Let me.
me, let me rephrase that. You are backing the accusation that this man raped somebody.
Gamma said he can't know for sure the girl in the pick is the alleged victim.
Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know.
I guess you don't have to confirm or deny. That's fair.
Though I know that she references something in regards to it.
But yeah.
Thank you. Thank you. Again, Gamma is another streamer in the space. They make some good videos.
Yes, I am backing an alleged victim. No, I understand that. I understand that. I'm not taking that away from you.
But if you were not witnessed to the evidence that may be KP.
would have had. I do think that this would have been very dangerous to place your name on.
And I'm, and again, I'm not mad with you. I don't know what use of being disappointed in you is, is probably inappropriate. I don't take pity on you. That's probably, that's also inappropriate.
But I do want you to understand that,
it's the picture alone doesn't 100% like do they you told me I contradicted my statements you told me I lied but ultimately we have just different interpretations of what investigating means
I'm going to be honest with you and truthful no you and I don't have different interpretations of what investigating means you and the internet have different interpretations of what investigating means you and the internet have different interpretations.
of what investigating means.
Yeah, kind of, yeah, yep.
I'm sorry. I'm really sorry to say that.
When you bring allegations of this nature, there is a standard.
I'm being honest with you. There is a standard. I'm being honest with you. There's a standard when you bring
very serious allegations like this.
Yeah.
And, and as Quite says, we understand.
And I actually, I agree with what quite is saying.
I definitely agree that you want to hand it off because you were in a bad mental spot.
I'm, that's, I get that.
And you've edited it to your best of your abilities.
But.
it needs to be very sure because of the credibility as well as the rest of the research, which we can't see.
And I think that that's the issue.
If you say, I listen, I'm not going to put words in your mouth.
I am not going to do that.
It's, it's, thank you, Greg.
Um, you know, if, yeah, that.
I don't know what.
I'm not even going to.
So this is a picture that's floating around.
And apparently one of these podcasts are referenced.
I'm not going to ask directly if this is the person.
But is this a similar picture that you were handed?
You don't even have to confirm that this is the person.
Is this a similar picture?
You want to confirm this is the person?
I actually don't want that.
If I, I think the person should have come forward.
But you have to understand that like when people say research or investigation,
there are a lot of familiar names in this chat and it's not a big group.
Many people here have harassed me and it's not a sense of criticizing me harshly,
but actual harassment.
I don't trust this community.
You don't know me from shit to Shynola.
We do not cover ACCC animation stuff very often.
It's something that we touch here and there.
I am asking you.
I don't know people in chat.
There's a lot of new faces in chat.
I could tell you right now there's a lot of new faces in chat.
And I don't know you specifically.
That's fine.
But I'm coming at you very calmly and politely.
Again, the angerous performative stuff.
What I want, when I'm asking you.
Right?
is very simply, do you see what people are understanding?
and what, because this chat is not just reflective of us and people who, quote on,
who may or may not harass you.
This chat is emblematic of a greater commentary community at large
who is supposed to believe this statement.
no again i don't care about about the this again i don't want anybody to be sued
but i think that and i'm trying to give you a lot of grace ma'am victim is not in the picture thank you
that's fair but this is a similar picture that you would have gotten was this a similar picture you got
or is there like a private picture between them like more private than this
like far more private than this are you saying like is it like the like the photo like as in
similar as in like a public con photo yes like is it a a a photo that was taken in like a
a photo that was taken in like a con booth or was this at like a dinner something like that
or it's them by themselves with friends
Yeah.
I did not ask for private photos.
Anything I saw was posted publicly.
Okay.
I'll ask you this.
I can't even ask this.
because I actually, like, I actually, I don't want the victim to be, like, kind of, like, exploded for.
But, like, was there Twitter correspondence at least between Sabrespark and this person?
Like, like, I'm asking legitimately.
Like, you know, just like, just like, uh, like, quite a saying.
Like, we, I'm not, I'm taking it your word that you, your investigation and stuff.
Um, but again, I, I'm not insulting you.
I'm just saying that I think that like, maybe, just maybe this needed a little bit more time and dedication.
And passing off somebody else's research.
And I will, I can hold to the fact.
Yes, the alleged victim has only at this time showed they went to the same con at one point or a con at one point.
Yes.
Um, again,
I don't want, there's more info I get, the more info I give, the more people will be able to piece things together.
I don't want to say anything the victim does not approve of. Okay.
Guys, be chill. Be chill. It's okay. It's okay. Just be chill. I will say this to you, Bonk.
Again, I'm being very genuine when I say this.
I think that this was handled very poorly.
And I don't think it's just on KP alone.
I do think that there's a level of responsibility you need to take.
I think the issue is bonk is afraid that the victims will be found out and forced to come out like Sophie was for the Griffin stuff.
Potentially.
I listen, I get you.
but I think personally, because it does feel like you're throwing a lot of shame and shade toward KP's way,
I think that there's a level of responsibility that's not fully being taken by just saying, yeah, I looked at their public profile, and I don't think that this would have been their character.
that's just me okay we because because and i'll admit you did change like and i get it maybe kp didn't show you
you everything but she didn't show everyone yeah she didn't show anyone everything yeah and you and you
destiny one of griffin's victim was outed by someone who figured out who she was and
arrest constantly. I do not want this for the victim. That's fair. Okay? That's actually fair.
We don't want that. I actually don't want that either. I'll be very honest. But my question to you is this.
Because I will finish the video tonight. This is going to be a very long stream chat. I apologize.
But my question to you is this. Do you think that you may be maybe.
jumped the gun. Yeah, unfortunately, the victim's already in that position now. People are going to try to find them. They're also going to find them. Now their friend has spoken up about it. I don't want to see any victims harmed, but again, yeah, we're just frustrated with the vetting process. I think that that's ultimately because the vetting process isn't good enough. And it sucks to say that.
and I'm sorry. Okay. So I, I will give you the time to speak. Things like that.
Um, okay, people, what, what, what am I seeing here?
Okay. I have gotten some screenshots. And I think, yeah. So I'm going to move on with some screenshots.
That's going to move on with some screenshots that paint this a lot worse. Again, bonk if you're listening to this, you're still in the chat. I'm not mad with you. Again, but I do think, but I do think that.
that your statement does lack a level of accountability and transparency that you had in, and when you had with the authority of your previous posts.
I'm going to try to do this in the order that I can.
KJ, I don't know about this picture. I don't want to share this picture. I don't want to share this picture.
Yeah.
We knew that the people were getting involved want to figure out who she was by the nature of how so serious it was, but the easier it is the higher chance it goes up and with less doubt. Yeah. And again, I'll say this to you, Bunk. You're actually in this chat. Courtney and KP are not in this chat. I don't see them. You're here. I may not agree with all your taking.
and I think you need to hold a higher standard of accountability for yourself.
But you're here.
I can respect that.
I can actually respect that.
Like fully, fully and all honestly, I agree with quite.
I can respect it.
This is KP's face.
Okay, she shares her face.
I know she's public online.
But I can respect it.
So these are some things I guess are coming out of KP server that I will have to now address because this is from November of last year.
Regarding mad, he's taking misinformation and running with it constantly.
Seems like the dude has some word grievance bottled up to blank.
KP goes on to say, I believe he got jealous of my acquaintanceship.
But Courtney at the last time, at this time, and Matt, I didn't ban someone on his preferences.
I honestly believe he had his feelings for, he had feelings for me.
This is size server.
Interesting.
Thank you.
Because it makes no other sense.
So again, yeah, I just got this.
This was just like, this was just passed to me.
So again, she continues.
The K.P. is continuing to claim people are romantically interested in her.
I believe motherfuckers had a real crush on you.
How do you know the singularity, unfortunately, luck with people?
I do not expect, people don't expect me to be pretty IRL and think I'm one of the boys and try to woo me.
Saberspark tried.
Uh, okay, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, saver spark tried.
I'm not secret that I can't stand, Sabres Spark.
People expect me, okay, and then she has a fucking list and then shares her face.
I, bonk, if you're still in the chat, I hope this teaches you that you need to vet the people you pass info to.
Like, hard vet them.
We're going to finally get to the Sabrespark allegations.
Five hours later.
But this is a woman with literal...
I'm not going to lie to you.
This is a woman with a fucking axe to grind.
That's one way to put it.
Yeah.
And people fuck up.
I'm only...
Listen, I get it.
People do fuck up.
Um, again, uh, I'll say it again.
Um, I want to give a shout out to Bonk for actually being in chat.
I don't know if he's going to, I don't know, he, they, or Sophie are going to watch the rest of this stream.
But if you do, I want you to stick around for it.
I think it's important.
I know that now, but the victim doesn't.
They aren't just the Sabre heater.
Again, I don't believe that either.
But there are issues with.
their testimony that I'm going to be honest about. Okay? So here we go.
This isn't just some rando being a dick because he's mad at me for existing on the internet.
I think that's why this sucks a little bit more.
Figures, because bitches love bringing up old stuff.
Something else to keep in mind is the loss of reputation, which is hard to recover from.
How do the receivers of the story, knowing that it's false or not, going to feel about the person who the story is being told about?
I didn't know this was happening, and I can't defend myself for my reputation if I'm not fair.
If it was a collaborator I was interested in working with at the time, he would definitely have negative feelings about working with me now.
What happens if the story spreads or remains or even gets distorted through a game of telephone and changes depending on the teller.
First impressions can last months or even years and will psychologically affect personal treatment and ideals.
Yeah, the cutaway choice was insane, wasn't it?
This is a choice.
It's almost like it's two hours of nothing but bad cutaway choices.
Yep.
Yes, please, like and subscribe, chat.
Listen, if you like what we do here, when we try to vet things live,
we try to at least do right by people, please like and subscribe.
Thank you, thank you.
The contrary evidence.
See, the political landscape.
This is not something Chris came to me about accurate happening.
We seemingly had a decent report up to this point.
Chris could have admitted this happened years ago,
and I would have still been pissed, but at least he would have owned that.
You did not have a decent rapport.
You didn't have a decent rapport.
You too.
You shit talked him.
You didn't have a decent rapport.
Be honest.
You were mad that he worked for DA Games.
Come on.
But instead, I had to hear it from a witness.
It makes me feel like crap.
It makes me feel like my personal comfort, safety, and privacy is less important than convenience or the brocode.
At the same point, I want to analyze the implications of mistreatment.
Like, if Chris really felt this way, I don't know why I didn't come.
come up at that moment he was making those jokes or after or even when I confronted him.
Bonk, that's fine.
I met.
Thank you for, thank you for being here.
I hope, hey, for what it's worth.
I hope mentally, you do okay.
Take care of yourself, seriously.
A reminder that this drama ranges from 10 to 13 years old.
This drama is almost too old for Will Ryan.
Yes, indeed.
It came up an apology statement as a vague reference.
This is actual sexualized art, a sexualized story.
Buy me a Discord figure years ago.
And he also made comments on my body when I did the ice bucket challenge.
So three sex things plus a romantic gesture.
Chris maybe have been bitter because I didn't receive a family feelings or something.
Turns out any of the free isn't a winning strategy for dating KP.
Where? Where did he do that, though?
Is this all hearsay?
Come on. You can't.
Stop! Stop doing hearsay!
These allegations are massive.
Yes.
Thank you.
If there's comments, rude comments or otherwise.
if you have them, you could show them here.
You're showing a million cutaway gangs.
You could show, you could show them saying a shitty comment.
And like I said, and if you've come into the chat,
I know some of the people who were in the part of the DA Games allegations are here.
Like I said, if you want to speak out, I am here for you.
We'll redo your interview, obviously.
I think it's got worse.
Hi, I'm Courtney.
You may know me as Pete or Orchard, but honestly, call me what you like.
KP reached out to me a few weeks ago asking me to cover the Gabe story in more detail as she was busy working on this video here,
and I unfortunately have a fair share of experience with recognizing online grooming
and I'm pretty unashamed in speaking out loudly against it.
Gabriel C. Brown, also known as Black Griffin Online, has had growing speculations and concerns
regarding his relationship with his now wife and voice actress of Sweetie Bell and My Little Pony.
For most accounts, it looks as if Gabe had.
groomed his now wife from the time she was 14.
They met when she was 15, 16.
The 14 is an incorrect date.
14 is an incorrect age from what I can tell.
Already incorrect statement.
Also, missing the context that they were all together because what their mutual friend's mom.
There's nothing wrong with admitting your faults.
Those who don't refuse to grow.
Don't refuse to grow.
Bunk.
Thank you very much.
I lost.
We're still not on Saberspark yet.
The mom.
You're talking about this mom.
Yes, the mom. The mom.
This girl's mom, I can't remember her fucking name, will go into it the video.
Paired these three together at cons.
They were a package deal.
You leaving that out is actually terrible.
Because you're not, you're leaving.
out like the most important part that this whole thing is a problem.
After their announced engagement and subsequent marriage, gave face growing accusations
online of grooming his wife.
He dismissed the accusations under the guys that he had not known her prior to her being 20, and any
interactions they did have while she was a minor were strictly professional and in convention spaces
only.
Correction.
They were not friends until they were 20.
Very important correction.
Not that he didn't know who she was and there was strictly professional.
which it wasn't. I want to make that very clear, but that they were not friends until she was of age.
Very important.
A Google document has since been created compiling evidence from Gabe and his wife's own Twitter and YouTube.
There is.
...dispilessless to be false, as well as proving multiple other instances of Gabe showcasing problematic behavior.
Fun fact. Do you see this? You see this, by the way? Do you want to know who else is in this video?
This video that she's showing on screen because it's from a brony thing?
Ah, would it be K.P. is in this video?
Yes, indeed.
Because it's from a Brony fandom video.
Yes, Black Griffin and his wife toured in 2015.
They had the same, like similar management at the time.
You can grab it.
I mean, she's in the video.
Wait, limo, no shot.
Okay, uh, Killjoy, grab the video.
Let's do it.
Let's show.
And again,
I want to make it very clear.
This is clearly an edited together video where they're doing black caricatures.
Fucking abhorrent, by the way.
Look at the name.
Yes, they are Latoya.
Yes, it is Latoya Alufa Williamson and somebody else.
We'll get there. We'll get there.
That's crazy.
Wow.
I've covered the topic in a little more depth in an hour-long video on my channel,
which will no doubt be linked in the description below.
Anyway, I'm sprinkled throughout this video a few times.
You're not sprinkled.
Oh, yeah.
Did you explain who Courtney was again now that we're at the seven home?
Anybody want to take a break and teeter totter with me?
Okay.
So for those who don't know, Courtney is the sister of Lily Orchard, who has been assaulted by Lily Orchard in the history, like sexually assaulted, things like that.
I'm not going to do too deep a deep tale because I have to rip Lily apart later.
But, you know, I'm losing my mind.
Okay.
Again, you should.
And I see it in the chat, guys.
I'm just going to say it now.
Bunk came in.
I want to make this very clear.
But Bunk came in and tried to explain their position.
And they were at least open to the fact that we have disagreements on the idea of research.
Now, I do think that they're, they're, they're, they're, they're,
version is anemic and very poor and bad, and not good, but I'm not going to sit here and say that they don't have the opportunity to grow and change.
Girl, what you're doing on the teeter-totter? What's your lazy?
Was I?
Oh, hey, look. Is there other people?
How did she not feel that way?
I wonder who this is.
Wonder who this is.
And I wonder who this is. And I wonder who they are.
Oh, no, no, no, no, let's go back. Let's go back.
My point is watch the muffin disappear.
Huh. Interesting.
Is this not the person who's being accused of a groomer?
And now his wife, again, they definitely knew each other and were friendly with each other.
Huh. I wonder who was in this video.
Oh, is it both of these people?
are you in this video?
Again, I want to make it very clear that these are clearly recordings outside of things,
but you're okay being in this video and never called out the clearly racist caricatures.
Really weird, huh?
Hmm.
Yeah, what's up?
I have to be at work tomorrow.
I have to talk out, guys.
It's okay, buddy.
You're not cute.
And IQ, you're the best.
I have to go to sleepie.
Go, eby to sleepie.
I'm angry.
Maybe to sleepie.
I know.
I will listen to you be angry before I fall asleep.
Yep.
Well, I was asleep to the start of my anger.
Good night, chat.
Good night, bud.
Again.
The fact that she has collabbed with them in any capacity should have immediately been disclosed.
You know I took a dinner like hours ago, and I have not warmed it up.
I haven't eaten.
Oh, me.
It's okay.
It's fine.
Again, the fact that they've collabbed in any capacity should be disclosed.
Quirious?
Curious how it's not.
Curious how Courtney takes over this.
Put me in, Coach.
I'll sit in the call.
Quite.
You can come in.
Are you in our Discord, by the way?
I don't know.
Are you actually in our Discord?
Somebody give quite the Discord.
Is any of the mods awake to keep the Discord?
Fuck it.
Abby.
I'm a...
Wait!
Oh, wait.
I can add you as a friend because we have mutuals involved.
Oh, wait.
We have Diesel's Discord.
What am I stupid?
Uh...
Holy shit.
Oh, yeah.
How do I do this at quite?
How do I...
I don't know how to fucking do this thing.
How do I...
I can invite him.
There we go.
Yeah.
I invite.
Oh, Lord.
He can hop in what general or if you can see waiting.
He'll get the...
Uh, at his friend.
I'll make sure you get the creator tag.
Now.
There he is. I'm grabbing him.
Hello.
Hello. Hello.
Hello.
Welcome.
This is going to go really well, I'm sure.
You what?
You share screen on this?
Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, I'm watching. I got to pull the...
You have to mute Falji because of the way he has...
Oh, the slop father.
Oh, yeah.
Unfortunately, I got allegations on me, apparently.
Trans-O-Tron.
Trans-Ultron is me.
Sorry, I forgot that.
I didn't realize you guys used Fuji.
We're keeping.
No, I'm not changed.
To be clear, I'm not changing it.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
All right, let's get into this fucking mess.
Okay.
I became a fan of Saber Spark when I was in high school when I found his essay titled
Ballard of the Groney in 2011.
After graduating and turning 18, I added him on Skype to tell him I was a big fan of his.
He added me back almost instantly, and we had a...
This is being read or if this is them.
So...
This is read by B. Femmets.
Yeah.
BFemmets, I guess, is a different person.
Yeah.
They're like a different person.
Okay.
Okay, so someone's doing the voice work.
Yes.
They got...
I don't know how long you've been in chat for this, but...
Oh, no, you sped up.
But, like, yes, like June the King...
Sped up didn't read chat too much.
June the King was in this video, uh, and other...
Yeah, it has the, it has the cameos.
Yeah, the cameos wild.
Fucking...
Animation Avengers, I guess.
I don't know.
I was that I'm about to say.
This feels like a terrible Marvel movie.
This feels like the worst Marvel movie.
And they're just the,
the old sex pests.
To be fat, I didn't say that.
You said that.
I did.
I don't give a shit.
I'll say it.
The phrasing makes it sounds like the features were the sex pested.
That's not right.
Why are you saying that by June the King?
I just heard about it.
I don't.
I think that's a bad way to say that.
You joined the wrong call.
Fuck your rights.
People probably look at me sideways for getting a diesel stream.
I'm not too worried.
Oh.
That's awesome.
Let's go.
His phone number,
which was a really big deal to me at the time,
since this was the first time interacting with any sort of celebrity.
I had developed a parasy social crush on him due to being starstruck,
which was something he was aware of.
We would talk on Skype and text each other semi-frequently leading up to the first time meeting him.
In 2012, I went to my first pony convention.
I want to say something very clear before I go on to this,
because this is like, this is the problem, unfortunately,
with the level of the allegations being levied.
Sabres Spark was not a 2 million sub-channel at the time.
He was proverbially a Brony Glob Shidow.
His...
He was...
I'd say anything.
That's the worst.
That's the worst title you can give anybody.
I got to, like, say this so people understand.
He didn't get 100K subs.
He was famous back then.
In the Brody community.
You guys are...
You guys don't...
It means nothing.
Am I...
You guys are microcelebs!
It's...
I mean...
Derogatory.
Wrong question to ask.
I...
Wrong question to ask I amo.
Was it substantial enough?
It's like...
I don't know. Like, if he had an audience.
But also...
I didn't say anything.
I think my whole thing is, and this is my issue.
He is going to be judged by the 2 million subs to the community at large.
Yep.
And not the brony infamy that he had.
That's the issue I have.
You know, this is the only comparison I'm going to draw to myself during this
because I do not want to dig into that bag with something like this.
Oh, boy.
But it's like, person who said the thing I did, fucking...
It was like before I had anything.
And then they did, like, use similar framing.
Yeah, we're not... I won't go into that.
Not that bag. Not that big.
Yeah.
It goes both ways, I suppose.
Is like the real takeaway?
Yeah.
I agree.
I 100% agree.
All right.
Let's get back to...
Oh, yeah, yeah.
This is my first time ever traveling by myself and with soon...
Why did you say that?
Ah!
I'm going to scratch out.
I can't believe that.
phrases... Does Saber got any deleted vids from 2012?
I'm not looking.
I'm not. I don't...
I don't know how to tell.
Allegedly there are.
Again, allegedly there are, but I...
Y'all don't get to see what I made when I was 12.
Fuck y'all.
Man, I delete all my old videos. I thought they were cringe.
I have more deletioes of my OG channels than I have videos on it.
I'm just not on the internet. I hate to tell you this.
I'm literally a...
an old man who's here.
My current YouTube channel was made in 2012.
How does that make you feel?
I think mine is 18 years old.
I don't know when this one was made.
I'm not entirely sure.
Because I didn't subscribe to people for the longest time on YouTube.
That's fair. I'm going to stop sidetracking because it's easy to fall down that.
Ah, you're fine.
When I met up with him in person, he invited me to his hotel room and he showed me the video he was editing on his laptop, causing me to internally geek out.
I was really nervous being alone in a hotel with someone.
someone I was huge fan of and had a crush on, but I tried to play cool.
He was four to five years older than me, making me feel more nervous and out of place.
He would bring up the prospects of the two of his dating and how it didn't feel right for us to do so.
After that, he almost immediately initiated.
But why? Why would he bring up the...
Oh, God, I have to say this. You're 18 years old.
I... Okay. So we talk... Okay, we're talking about fan stuff. We're talking about parisociality.
You met up. You were friends.
why he brought you to his room.
You had a crush on him.
He is talking about you two dating.
Why would he do that?
I'm sorry, but why would he do that?
If not, that was a topic of discussion elsewhere.
I'm...
I hate this is... I fucking hate picking a problem.
these things.
Ugh.
...dicated making out with me and guided me to his bed.
In this moment, he did not directly ask me for consent.
I was thrown onto his bed, and he would insert himself into me.
Saper Spark was also significantly larger than me.
As I was an 80-something-pound 18-year-old girl, so I physically could not stop him.
I felt extremely nervous and uncomfortable because I had never experienced having any sort of sexual intimacy with someone I was not dating before.
Much less someone I just met.
I was very new to meeting people online in general.
At that moment, I laid there dissociating, as I felt very wrong while trying to rationalize it,
in my head to convince myself it was a safe and normal encounter.
He rushed off the clean and finished himself and came back to the bed and offered me a handshake saying, friends, this would cause me for the...
What the fuck?
I... I... I'm... Oh, God.
Did he see the relationship as friends with benefits and she didn't?
I don't know. But because that, well, that's the other thing. And Sye kind of points it out. It's like, they're...
And I hate doing this. I fucking hate doing this. I fucking hate doing this.
But they're...
missing because was the makeout non-consensual or was the sex not like we're going to get into a we're going to get into a consent discussion because it's actually in this video there is a whole parisocial consent discussion in this video.
I will couch this and wait for it.
for the rest of the event to feel that I was taking advantage of and to shank with myself for not trying to stop the interaction.
Though I tried pretending I was fine to everyone around me, I was and still am demisexual.
And being put in that position was not something I wanted.
I maintained the friendship until a second occurrence happening at a completely different point.
But why? Okay, but I... I gotta stop this because I'm annoyed. And I...
So, Rooster Brewster and chat said this is apparently the only section the victim saw.
Yeah, I was about to say. I think Bonk also confirmed that.
Or not necessarily the full amount.
just a small section, we can assume it's this end part, yeah.
Of the reading of it, yeah.
I would assume the most amount just for charitable.
Yeah.
I'm not blaming the, I hate to say, I'm not blaming the victim,
uh, or don't hate to say this. I'm not blaming the victim for the video.
I want to make this very clear.
The problem I have is levels of their statement, also knowing that, according to
to Bonk in, in, uh, screenshots.
Um, um, um, KP assisted in writing statements for people or writing like a weird press release thing that they should put out.
I don't...
This all started when we let liberals start making a commentary videos, man.
Fuck, you're right, you're right, you're right.
We used to, listen, chat, we used to just like, oh, I was going to say something crazy.
I don't know.
You either used to be racist or woke? What happened?
We used to suck and fuck behind closed doors, chat.
What happened?
happened.
Um.
Vosh happened.
What?
I don't know.
A Q and A.
This was the video schedule.
Expose themed short.
Q.
Tomorrow.
Tomorrow we have a.
They were going to do a whole fucking Q&A on this.
There's no way that it's coming out tomorrow.
I think it's been pretty obvious that like I've been keeping this closer to the chest than maybe I would with someone else.
Because, you know, don't want to push down too hard.
Yeah.
That's insane.
He's like, hey, do you want to hear this wacky sex assault clip from my fucking exposed video?
Not not even just like the short.
It's like multitude release.
It's like somebody said in chat, like the point of the video is to get views.
Yeah, like no shit.
It's like, it's, like, no shit.
It's like, to me, the timeline?
Ha ha ha ha!
Like that, that's, like that part.
This is the Avengers?
Like, fucking marvels.
But like, this is something fucking Raycon gives to you and says this is when you have to post the fucking things.
That's what I'm saying.
This is a sponsor dog.
Outload, Doc.
Fucking Christ.
This group, this fucking rape allegation sponsored by Pete Ditty.
Better health.
Like, what the fuck?
she pings everyone in her discord with a new show.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, Bog, I'm sorry.
Another came forward talking about how they were roommates with the victim
and experienced their crying retelling of the assault at the con it happened at.
Thank you.
Wait, no, that's not, wait, wait, wait, wait.
No, that's not.
No, that's real!
I didn't read the whole screenshot.
Someone said other videos in production after.
Yeah.
Okay, no, like, when you do the show,
shit if it's not your normal thing, you got no other plans until it's done, dog.
Again, sexual assault, Q&A, miscellaneous Q&A.
What the fuck would the Q&A be about?
Q&A, I can understand, like, trying to clear up misconceptions, assuming it had gone well.
But the problem is you would have to have the victim involved in that Q&A.
You would have to out the victim at that point.
You can't answer the question.
The best comparison I can make, I agree, but the best comparison I can make is, like, content
deputy in its prime.
Yeah.
Or it's like...
Oh.
you know what I'm saying
I think of
Desta, Desta,
Desta,
Bunk, you're back.
What's how it gets out?
Bong, because you're here.
Did you know about this?
This Q&A?
I thought Bunk was gone.
No, Bunk came back.
Bok came back to say that there were other allegations, which I know are out.
I, I, I, I, I, we have them.
We got a guy in the chair.
Yeah.
Fong says no, I didn't.
This is what I'm saying.
Like, again, I do think that you had well intentions.
There are holes in the story.
I'm going to be honest.
But...
I'm going to...
Sal Jim, I ask you personally to be charitable, like post-Slazo shit.
It's hard for me not to feel for someone, like,
even remotely close to that position.
Not nice.
But, you know...
Oh, I was just about to say that.
I was just about to say what I'm charitable.
What I'm charitable...
about is that I don't think...
I think you chose the wrong person, dude.
I think you...
I personally believe you...
You probably hurt your own ability to get closure on this, man.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Like, like, I haven't heard of KP before today.
Like, this is just poor practice.
Yeah.
Like, it's rough.
Yeah.
And I need you to understand the reason why...
I kind of came to you and said that, like,
it's not mine in your definition of investigating,
but the larger internet at large,
is because everyone is going to lump you with KP.
Everyone is going to lump you now.
Like, straight up.
And I'm sorry.
I really am.
But everyone's going to lump the fact that all of this happened
and you sent this.
you sent them to her.
Sorry.
No, it's fine.
I don't think a Q&A is necessarily bad
if they can't speak with a victim.
There are a lot of other things
that people might have wanted questions to.
Still, a Q&A would have...
Yeah.
You can just say it couldn't be bad.
You don't have to couch it.
I wouldn't couch it, dude.
I wouldn't.
I don't think...
KP isn't on your side in this.
She's...
Had she covered it well.
Yeah.
Had she, like, done it right the first time?
I think you are.
earned yourself the credibility to, like, respond to some common queries.
Yeah.
Like, but you, like, you either need to have that reputation already where if you made a mistake,
people are willing to hear you out, like, what went wrong in the process or what did we miss?
But if you don't have that, you need to knock it out the part the first time you do it,
and you need to prove that you came at it with the right intentions without a doubt.
Yeah.
You can't miss with stuff like this.
No, you can't.
Like, it's sensitive.
It sucks.
It's why I stopped doing it.
Like, it's hard.
Yeah.
I empathize with that part of like the process, the difficulty, but like it still has real world
effects.
First-hand experience.
Fucking.
Yeah.
Well, I think that, but that's, that's the issue is that like, in void of a Q&A could be good, but not one.
But like, yes, I agree with you.
The problem is, and this is where I will disagree with quite.
The problem is, is that you do need, like, the victim has to come forward.
Like, the victim had to have been comfortable to go forward.
In a part, like, the victim had to have been comfortable to go forward.
forward for a Q&A.
Because how is the victim going to respond to when people have questions about their statement?
A throwaway account is not good enough.
I'll say it depends on how well you can tie up things while they're anonymous, which is like,
you're, like, for your first time, you're making the needle, you have to thread harder and harder and harder.
Where it's like, are, at this point, if you're planning with this, is this something you should be
taking on?
Yeah.
Like, and that's assuming the best of intentions from KP.
Yeah.
And Keldron's kind of right.
There really shouldn't be questions when you make an expose because all the questions are supposed to be answered.
It's supposed to be on Sabrespark to do that.
So I said this with the fucking dog pack shit, even though he's dog shit.
And I, Mr. Bees is going to, I have no doubt that Mr. Bees has sued him and he's somewhere in Guatemala right now in a fucking labor camp.
The right way to do these things sometimes?
sometimes is to withhold information until the person you're accusing makes a public statement
because if your shit is airclad tight, they have to continually explain more and more.
You know who did this very well?
Alice from I'm Alex.
Yeah, she probably should have addressed a lot.
The telling Alex, he should have fought his, his, uh, you know, telling Alex,
verbatim, you should have fought the guy that, that sexually assaulted you harder is insane.
Mm-hmm.
But she came with all the fucking receipts because she knew that motherfucker would try to come back.
Every fucking receipt.
I'm on my god, I'm, blah.
Well, do it, do it quite. Let, let it flow through you.
No. No. No. What, you think is my first time in doing this shit? No.
No. I know. I know. I know.
I believe in you.
Ah, he's the cool, quite as sharp, I hang us through through it all. Um, but yeah, it's just like, it's, it's, it's, it's, that's just how it is.
And I think that like, again, I think you did come at this with the best intentions.
I will give you, you came at this with the best intentions.
But like, this is, is, is, is crazy.
Gross. No.
No, dog pack is still alive somewhere. He's smoking weed. He's, he's, he's on his, he's on his, man,
Dogpack is somewhere sitting in a Cayman Islands with his...
He's too white of an American national for a deportation dog. I'm sorry.
That's not happening.
That's real. I'm like, I'm just reminded of, like...
They'll take the brown babies. They won't take the white man.
Nope.
Why do you think Jake Wendell is still around?
Not the type of stream.
Oh, you could say whatever the fuck you want. Go for it.
Well, I'm not going to say what the fuck I want.
I want.
I know what it means being here, Doc. Don't worry.
No, no, no, you're fine.
I like, I like, I like, Fowelgy and the whole crew, like, fucking my ass-gray.
Like, y'all, y'all are cool, I think.
He said my name, you guys.
Oh, thank you very much, quite.
I got back from, I saw, like, like, Kendrick in the rain yesterday.
Oh.
And that I came to this, a pretty good follow-up.
Nice.
I can't believe were your Kendrick after party.
Yeah.
Some, yeah.
Yeah.
I think if people knew who the victim was.
Your thoughts on Gen X.
I really like it.
It's not my favorite album of his is.
But like, I don't know, man.
He's got like pop instincts in the way you wouldn't expect for the dude.
Let's not blow on that, though, because there's a point of the stream and it's been eight hours for you all.
Yeah, I know.
I think if people knew who the victim was, they'd believe her instantly.
But I did look into more than just a surface level.
I like also understand like why she doesn't want to come forward.
But also it's like.
It's, it just becomes that much harder.
Like, if you're going to go public, but not go public, like, you've made the hardest way to do this for yourself.
Yeah.
At least in one angle.
Maybe the, you know, privacy you have outside of looking at Twitter is worth more than, like, what I can understand.
But it's, it just, it makes the rhetoric the hardest to shape.
You know what I mean?
If it, like, assuming it's true, like, it's.
this is the hardest way to make this argument.
Like fucking ditty, like, accusers, the law is most likely not going to keep them anonymous.
They're going to require they show up in court.
Like, this stuff is just, it's, I'm not saying it's not true.
I'm not saying it's real.
I'm not saying, like, it's done for any specific reason.
It is just objectively the hardest way to do this.
And the unfortunate reality is like, and I hate to say this, but it's,
It's part of things like our channel is to understand allegations, not necessarily pick them apart, but identify ways that the opposition would attack it.
And I think at this point, and I hate to say this person deserves their privacy, if all this is factual and true.
But unfortunately, like, it is the worst way to go about it.
and now it's couched in a deleted video.
That was a personal hit piece.
Full of personal grapes.
Yeah.
The best chance you have is the first time.
Yeah.
Every time.
Check stream.
Check the other.
There's more.
Oh, well, you know what?
That's funny.
To be fair, that's funny.
There you go.
Who?
Embray.
You said great.
Embrae.
That's hilarious.
Can you say slurs on YouTube yet?
This is already going yellow, right?
Yeah, probably.
All right, I'm going to save that.
I'm going to save that.
Is that, is this a, who's hope is, is this Koso?
That's Koso.
That's Koso. Because Koso held a cup with him, like a Koso face and the, uh, in the flag background.
Oh, my God.
You're working fast, dude.
Yeah.
Oh, my community is crazy.
Koso who also says, Kendrick is overrated.
No.
Overrated is a.
like a fallacy of a term.
All right.
Let's go.
Let's try to get through this again.
Please, please.
In 2013.
This time, we met in a public space,
but had no one around and talked for a while.
He kept bringing up the prospects of us starting a relationship, but how it felt wrong.
He would grab my hand saying how it felt so right, only to push my hand away, saying,
but so wrong.
I had decided that my crush on him was something I needed to get over because I felt that my emotions
were being toyed with.
He then suggested going to a more public space around others, and we went into the elevator
to go up to the lobby of the Pony Khan Hotel.
As soon as the door closed, Saber Spark fortunately showed me.
me against the wall and shoved his tongue down my throat.
It scared me and actually hurt, triggering another attack of dissociation.
Once again, he did not ask for consent when throwing me into this situation.
Once the doors opened and people were present, this led me to feel very embarrassed.
He got off me and took my hand and guided me towards the stairs to go back down to where we just were
and into a men's restroom where he pulled his pants down and guided my hands and had to perform oral sex on him.
I was afraid of denying him because of past experiences with sexual assault, so I did it to get it over with,
without wanting to cause a problem, where he would ejaculate on my face, apologize profusely, and then on the...
I just...
Oh.
I got my head.
Phone's on, so I'll hear it, but I got to step away for a second.
Yeah, it's fine.
It's fine.
That's tough description.
I do feel like you should have, like, if this...
If this happened, you should have done, like, a civil thing and not brought this to the Internet.
So, yeah, I see what you're saying.
I want to give...
I want to give the...
I'll say victim.
I want to give the victim, like, their, you know, their chance to speak, to say what they need to say to say their testimony and the situation, obviously.
You can believe them and still ask for proof.
But I also want to know what, because, like, it is hard for victims to speak out.
It is hard for people to believe victims on the Internet, especially if then at the time versus now for bigger names, so to speak, of who the allegations are against.
she could have not come forward for any number of reasons, obviously.
Yeah.
But it's been so long since then that it's...
I don't know what could be done, if true, obviously.
I don't know what can be done or what she even wants to have done if she just wants her story out there.
And then people go from there, or if she's asking for, I don't know, charges or what have you.
The problem is that this does need evidence.
I hate to be that dissenting voice, but, like, the problem is, is...
I'm going to tell you the core issue with the civil suit argument.
It's like, it, like, if an anonymity is the concern.
Yeah.
The more powerful the target, I guess, like, the higher pay, like, you know, paychecks the wrong word,
but the higher payment you could get out of that is, like, the higher class they are, but it's like,
in America, specifically, they're both American citizens, correct?
From what we understand, yes.
So it's basically all legal records in America are public record.
Yeah.
So if Saberspar's name is out there, victim's name is out there.
It's only like in private, if it's only in civil court and like it never comes public, that's like,
either he pays it out and like he has to talk, like, to either make it go away or because he did it, I don't know.
that's a story on its own.
And there's also like, why was this never public?
That becomes a story.
And also you get docs no matter what.
I guess you could attempt, but I don't, I don't know how hard she tried.
I guess you could attempt.
I mean, they're not even letting like people who have as much dick to swine around as did he.
Like, that's the reason his victims have, like, are, if they're continuing the case, the major ones are more than likely going to have to come out public.
And it's, I think.
there's more merit to these kind of Twitter style cases, as much as I hate to call it that,
then I think people give them credit for because they're, for some, the best recourse you have to,
A, talk about something, if you have, like, you know, enough proof for it without doing too much
to put yourself out there, but it also makes it the hardest to prove.
And it also acts as the nicest cover for those who just want to lie.
Yeah.
It's like double-edged sword, but you cut yourself both times.
I think, I think the, because I saw it in chat, and I, and it made me think, I think the, I think the only way, the problem is with allegations like this and because it's, there is a level of hearsay.
We would, God, I, this sucks because the anonymity part is what, what actually kills this story now.
Because what would also be needed.
is at least someone to corroborate, someone to cooperate the handholding for, for instance,
because you said that you guys were in public and that this conversation was happening in a somewhat
public setting about the dating thing.
Because, okay, if we, if I am being honest, here's what I believe.
I believe Sabre may have said these things to this person.
and I think that he was being a little bit, not even just a fuckboy, but being genuinely awkward and kind of disgusting when it comes to sexual content, whether it's because he's awkward, whether because he's a gooner, whatever the fucking shit, bullshit you want to make up.
Like a 23 year old?
Yeah.
But like, again, like, the gambit is you're already putting like, so.
Yeah.
With these cases, it doesn't matter if you go civil, you go public, or you go criminal.
There's always a part of yourself, like, as the alleged to victim, the accuser, you have to, like, you have to, a, retramatize yourself, or this is a multiple choice thing, like, one by one.
You either have to retramatize yourself.
You have to put yourself out there to public scrutiny, knowing that, like, nothing might come of that.
In civil case, you might have to do a little bit of both.
With the public shit, there's just, like,
I guess the overall idea would be that you're doing it so that no one can be taking advantage of the same way.
Again, if that's how you feel what happened to you.
Yeah.
But it always comes onto you in some way, and the less you're willing to share, or the more you share, the more the other person has to get in the mud with you if they feel they're innocent.
The less you're willing to share, if that's the way you go in the public sense, the, the, the harder, the less case there is to, like, for people to get,
behind you initially.
And this is all mechanics.
Like, these aren't things, I, at least I like to think I have, like an opinion on the way to describe
them, but it's, it's, it's, the, the ways you approach that thing, it's, unfortunately, I've had to
like, like, look into a lot without being a lawyer.
Yeah.
So it's like, I actively clash with my lawyer on it.
If I should have done anything I did public and in the end, I don't regret what I did.
So, yeah, I can only imagine what that's like from the other end of the equation.
I am surprised that there's no text messages.
Apparently, this was all done on Skype, and Skype has long deleted those messages.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, that's not a thing.
That's what's being claimed.
No, if they have the computer they did it on or a device that still has Skype involved, they can get a program
like Skype period that pulls it out.
I had to do that for my video.
I'm hoping if they hear this and they still have the computer, maybe they don't, in which case
that's, you know, that's, you need to have the original computer it was on from what I understand, but I did.
I was able to pull my entire fucking, like, six years of Skype history on that account.
Yeah.
That's, that's a claim.
That's a claim that some, like, someone needs to follow up on.
It ain't going to be me.
They alleged, and they also allegedly traded phone numbers.
Yeah, chat, look up Skype.
There's a very specific file on, like, your computer.
Skype might be closed now, but if you had it installed, they didn't install, then.
update or anything, the file's still there.
You can put it in there.
It shows you where pictures came from.
It stashed all your pictures.
That's how I was able to find all the shit I did, the sensor to prove that they did get sent.
But, like, you know, without exposing it, it's like, you can, like, do the time codes on the dates when it was made.
No, it's not Skype servers.
It's fucking locally on your hard drive.
Yeah, that's why, like, there's an issue with, like, Skype it because it would, like, roam and, like,
sometimes overwrites and files.
I think that was an issue, like, way back with Skype.
if they're Skype logs and you have the original machine, they are retrievable.
At least it would be worth trying.
Yeah.
Worth trying.
If they shared phone numbers, if that person has access to an old phone number, they could prove.
Yeah.
Like, oh, yeah, we did share phone numbers.
Bonk, if you're still here and listening, please.
I'm like being honest, Bonk, if you're somehow still here and still listening, try.
I hope the Skype thing helps the case in whichever way because it can also, it can be like something that, like, if they didn't realize that was a method, they can pull that.
And if it's like not something they can do or it's like something one party can do that the other can't, like that.
Oh, man, I didn't intend to throw a wrench.
No, but this is really good because it's like, I don't want to not leave somebody.
Yeah, I don't want to not believe somebody. Look up Skype, period. I'm not lying.
That's how I did it. You can get fucking messages from a deleted.
Twitter account. I just never managed it, like, figure out how to parse them because you need, like,
some specific cybersecurity program that I was not spending the money on at the time.
Yeah. Yeah. If I'm sure people will tell Bonk, again, like I said, like, I don't want to. I'd keep it to
bonk. And if he wants to pass it on, let him do that. Yeah, that's that's, or if the person finds it on
their own, don't try and, like, find the victims. Or, or, or there is, I was just about to say,
Alex put it. They created a throwaway account called the Sun Mouse, the Sun Mouse.
The Sun Mouse. There you go.
Um, we're going to continue with this. I'm going to try to get through this because I'm going to get angry again at the Courtney stuff.
But yeah. I'm just keeping you up so I get to keep spending time with you.
Oh, no. I'll stay up again. Despite pretending that was fine.
Chat, you don't get to be me.
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
I'll stay up with chat. No, no, no bother me.
Man, fuck you, I'm not special.
I'm not special.
I'm gonna put, I'm done, I won't do that.
I'm fine, you're fine.
I had always felt taking advantage of by him and try being friendly and pretending nothing was wrong because it was all I knew how to do.
I would blame myself at interactions for years, only opening up to a few close people, questioning if consent was implied because of my crush.
And unwillingness and fear to outright stop the advances because of how uncomfortable I felt.
I understand that there was.
there is a possibility that he felt consent was implied because he knew I had a crush on him.
However, he did not once ask for consent directly and was instead thrown into these sexual encounters, usually very suddenly.
There were no discussions about the power dynamic between us as a popular content creator and a fan at any time.
In my paris social connection to him and not wanting someone I was a fan out to hate me if I rejected him,
leaving me afraid to stop his advances. Over time, I...
I hate the power dynamic discussion. This guy was not... He wasn't your boss.
You were his fan. I'm so... This is where I get... This is the problem. This is the problem.
that does make me question parts of this and I have to pick it apart.
Can I ask where you're starting this like, um, disaction from? Like, you say I don't like the power dynamic
because you think being a fan makes you're more vulnerable or less?
Well, the thing is that like, that me, we were talking about this. Like, people are going to view
Sarah Park as like his current view count, which is like 2 million when he most likely was less than 10K at this point.
I was true but this is this is like a testimony directly from the fan correct yes so apparently
probably read it from like how she is like what she claims to be an early fan um is trying to like phrase how that
felt to like maybe be the first time something like that like happen her like meeting a creator being in a
you know interaction beyond that you know what you were going to say stuff and I got in the I got no you're
fine you're fine you're fine you're fine my personal thing is the
the, I believe the word power dynamic is overused.
When we typically discuss a power dynamic, we are talking about an individual that has direct correlation on your future.
That is what a typical power dynamic is.
Now, if you say that he took advantage of the parasyciality, it then, in my opinion, the reason why that word is not used.
is because that there is a level of parasyciality that is on the oneness of the person that has that feeling towards a creator.
You're talking like a rockstar groupie type of thing?
That will be discussed in about two minutes in this video.
Oh, no way, she beat me to that bitch.
There is an entire conversation about implied consent.
Do you come from the academic sense of a power dynamic or like the,
way that wider world has come to learn it slash use it.
Wider World being the motherfuckers who are.
I have, I'm talking about it from the academic sense because of the importance of that.
So to me, the academic sense does make, it is important.
If you get to define it ahead of time, which streams are just kind of impossible to do one for everybody watching.
Yeah.
I, what I would say is, um,
Assume when people use the term power dynamic, they meet it in the way they came to know it, which is like, it's technically legal for an 18 to date a random 34 year old YouTuber, right?
Yeah.
I, I'm pulling a number out of my ass because I fucking was, you know, going to rule 34 earlier.
But I assume it means like when these people talk about it, they meet it in like the, you know, rock groupies is genuinely the best.
like comparison, but
rappers still brag about being able to fuck fans, right?
And that's not going to stop anytime soon.
It's a very uniquely internet way of knowing the term.
Quite.
It's like, yeah.
I'm not going to spoil anything for you.
Oh, man, I'm going to have a great time tonight, aren't I?
We're about to get there.
This is the issue.
You guys have already seen this fucking video.
I have not.
I'm not. I don't watch these.
I, just because I was helping.
I, yeah, I, sometimes we have to watch it because we have to research everything.
I was waiting for your coverage, so I didn't have to get it.
Now here I am.
Oh.
I'm sorry, Falgian fucking Ash.
Greg, you guys are too compelling. It sucks.
I have, I'm very compelling. I know, but I'm with you. I, I'm watching this alongside you.
I just couldn't resist your group dynamic.
Some call it a polycule.
Yeah, some.
All right, buddy.
The oplicule never dies.
Is that, is that, is like, is you the fan base?
Yeah, I'm my own, I'm my own biggest fan, yes.
You know what?
If you're a fan, that's base.
Oh, yeah, Claudia, if you could join, come in.
Yeah, I, I, I, you would.
Oh, you need to complete the polycule.
We do.
we do need to complete the polycule.
Listen, if we wanted to complete the polycule, we'd have, we'd have diesel in the shame corner.
In the snow chair.
What about you got to him?
Because listen, until he admits that he's by, he will be in the shame corner.
No, you and Beck and made him ace.
Oh, that's hilarious.
That's funny that he literally said, we sexed them out.
Falgi, you live in Las Vegas, right?
No, I live in Jersey.
I've met Diesel in person.
Okay, that was my docs test.
I just wanted to make sure.
Oh, yeah, I don't get that.
He's triangulating your...
Triangling right now.
No, it's testing how much you've already put out there.
Oh, no, everybody knows I'm from Jersey.
It's like the thing.
You can't tell from his accent?
Yes, because my mom watched that guy get stabbed in Jersey City.
Oh, wait, really?
Maybe it's the same guy I know.
This is Palsi's uncle.
My mom.
My mom, my mom is 60.
Yo, that's baller.
Well, she was a Filipino immigrant, like when it was wager to go to California.
And their parents were like, no, they're super racist.
You don't want to live there.
There's a large Filipino, uh, um, uh, there's no such thing as a large Filipino.
Oh, no way, I know them.
No, there's a large Filipino, uh, immigrant, uh, community.
here.
I know quite a few of them.
Some of them know my mom and I'm not going to check.
No, that's fine.
That's fine. That's fine.
I, uh, I will say, uh, is someone who's very close to the Filipino culture, uh, not being one
myself.
Uh, you fuck with Lumvia.
I love Lumpea.
Uh, uh, K. Kuki is my favorite thing, though.
I actually don't like peanut butter. I don't like peanut butter. I don't like peanut butter.
So whatever I, um, is like my thing.
Go to, like,
a, like a family friend get together.
They're Hawaiian and they always have Lumpia,
like a pile of Lumpia.
So Lumpia's great.
I like Palabok.
C-Sig is very good.
I know what all of these things are, maybe.
Jollybee is the best.
My half white side is not me.
My half white side.
Okay, I'm not going to debate my culture.
can we like just my culture?
I'm not going to debate of my culture.
I'm not going to debate of my.
My culture is my culture.
Can you look at the fucking rape allegations again?
Thank you.
I don't want to talk about me anymore.
I've decided.
Sorry, I was hungry.
I don't want his fans and friends.
Me too.
Him to harass or contact me publicly.
I wish to stay anonymous so I can avoid the anxiety and stress of being targeted by either him, his friends, and especially his fans.
Hi, sweetie.
Hi, Crowdy.
Oh, no.
She's, she's what I'm going to say the slur.
This is what I'm going to say the slurk.
has over two million subscribers.
I met this one.
Sweetier.
Yes, you went this one.
Go on.
Yeah, this one.
Yeah, I'm all right.
I just, I had to finish some cooking.
Yeah, we did me.
And we had a really, really great time.
I got a fucking cool picture of me with a little
little faggerine in my hand.
That's real.
Yeah, he loved it.
He did.
I liked it, too.
Hi.
Hi, chat.
Hi, jazz.
Hi, hi, hi, hi.
But played on here all the time.
He's going to have to book me, aka I get nervous.
Diesel gets shy.
We know this, you know.
Diesel's always been shy.
That's pooky, though.
That's pooky.
It's our little pooky bear.
He's my little, he's my little flesh being to contort.
I mean, he's so easy, you know.
He is.
That's not, I don't think we mean this in the same way.
or we do.
I fuck with them.
You all fuck on them.
It's different.
True, true, true, true.
Hi, chat.
Oh my God, you guys.
Hi.
Thank you.
I am a little under the weather.
I am better now.
I got soup and medicine.
I'm ready for the rest of this rape allegation.
Let's get to put my plate.
I'm just what I'm just, you guys know what I think the best outcome would this be?
It was a big misunderstanding and everybody gets a little therapy.
There's, how do I want fence ride this shit?
I don't want fence right this.
I don't, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't both sides this.
Or not, it's not even both sides.
It's like, honestly, it's like, I'm like, man, this has got to be tough.
I don't know who's right.
This is why I stopped.
Like, I can't do this anymore.
Oh, you guys are stolen.
Okay, we'll press play.
Hold her hand.
Okay.
Let's hold your hands together.
Let me get it.
I've also witnessed several instances of his friends attempted to justify him and others' actions.
I was not made aware of his jokes about consent and his recent behavior involving Chris until only recently, and I left my stomach in knots.
I please ask above all else for my privacy to be respected.
I don't wish to publicly defend my personal experience and just wish to share my experience.
So welcome to the video where we break this down a little bit more and talk about what is...
She keeps speaking when it stops scrolling.
Bad editing.
Yeah.
All right.
This woman took two years.
Are you guys ready?
I can't imagine trusting an edit for a video like this to someone but yourself.
Sorry.
Well, we don't know who did it because the editors chose not to be named.
I thought some of the editors were like talking about in the premiere they were proud.
I think it was some people involved with the, yeah.
Yeah, some of the people involved with some of the interview for some of the.
Yeah, we've already established there's like things worth talking about.
in here.
And like, it was a lot of, a lot of people, I'm sure.
Yeah. Let's get to it.
Yeah.
So because, yeah, it's an important discussion here.
So because it's a really serious conversation.
I want to highlight something real quick.
And I...
That's totally fine.
This isn't our longest.
This is, this is the most disgusting thing I'm about to tell people.
The reason Courtney has brought on because she's a sexual assault survivor.
That is literally part of...
That's it.
Is Courtney Lily or is...
Courtney is a little sister?
that that oh that oh my fucking god yes yes all right yes
dude this is a great excuse for me to pee and not speak
Oh yeah please make sure you I got a piss too I would a pee too
You know what bio break why don't you all do that? Bio break I'll talk I'll talk all talk to
Hello chat how we doing? Hi Crat hi chat hello Ash hello Greg hello
Hello hello everyone I missed in chat that said hi
Hello, hello. Hello, hello. How are you guys, how are y'all sitting with this seven-hour stream? Hi, Mitch. This is, it says eight for me. I didn't look.
Hi, David. Hello, hello, hello. Hi, Julie. Thank you all so much for hanging out all night. Yeah, for real. I'm very proud of this stream and Defalgy and all the rest of you guys. This is really. I mean, I'll get you.
Alligations are not cool, but where we've gotten since we started is really cool.
And I do appreciate you all being here.
I didn't want to say this too. We wanted to do this on Friday. We had everything ready to go on Friday.
But then somebody. But then somebody had a mysteriously return to the internet, so we covered that on Friday.
Mama Max, I still hate your ass. I hate you.
He's been too epey and then we couldn't do it this morning.
God, I had to take a...
He's got a lot going on in his day.
Chad, I washed my hands.
I woke up and you are still going.
Drink quarter PLS.
You know what? I will do that.
Thank you.
I'll be right back.
You can play it.
Okay.
I'll wait for quite to come back.
Yeah, you won't miss much. No, he has his headphones on. Sure. Why not?
And I know almost nothing about sexual assault. I invited Courtney. Again, she's all over this video to talk about, like, what is consent?
I don't know anything about sexual assault. So I invite the sexual assault victim.
Oh, yeah.
What the fuck?
Okay. It's either this or she grabs somebody who's watched a lot of loan or SVU.
I would rather that. I'm not going to lie.
Yes, I see you.
Okay. I'm going to fuck it. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
When's consent is there and when it's not there, we're having a great time here at the worst video ever.
And just kind of break it down. So we have a better understanding.
All you nerds out there don't do something really, really bad like this.
Don't do it, guys. Don't do it.
Hi, again, Courtney.
Welcome. You'll be in the video everywhere at this point.
Hello, everybody. It is I. I have returned once again.
I'm so happy to be here.
I don't like.
So I've shown you the testimony at this point.
I don't like that as better audio balancing.
I don't like that K.P. is referring to Courtney as her token SA survivor.
I'm fucking question.
Did she actually say that? Did I miss that?
It's how she's treating her because, because, uh, thank you Felix for the five.
I've been a new person here since the birdie video.
I apologize for my words earlier by the way.
Phyllis, thank you. You're good, but we appreciate it.
Oh, Lacey Dragon. Thank you.
Yeah, we appreciate it. It's all good.
Growth is the point, isn't it?
Yeah.
Thank you, nice.
Thank you.
Yeah, I will say that.
Lacey J. Dragon, I'm going to fucking kill you and her family.
What the fuck?
Clip it, check.
Read his message again.
Been here since the beginning and it's been quite a stream.
Yeah.
Hey, ha, ha, ha.
Oh.
Fuck. God damn it.
But no, our, we may not always all agree and there might be a little bit of, of tiffs or whatever in the chat, but genuinely you guys tend to police yourselves. I haven't had to do very much.
You guys are fine. It's okay to have an opinion, just, you know, be open to listening and learning. That's all we can expect.
I think we say, chill, chill. Yeah. Yeah, and you guys do. I will say this. You guys do. I appreciate it.
There's an important part to be mentioned.
I am not going to pull it up because the stream will be over 11 hours and YouTube, like, uh, DFs a stream if it's over 11 hours or whatever.
That is true.
Well, we can just, we can just make it.
God, no, no, no, that's not off.
Not watching at the do tomorrow.
Hey, shut. Let's feed that dog.
Here's, here's what I will say.
God damn, a black flower. What is the whole one is happening?
Thank you. Blackflower.
And thank you, Pinkwater.
I repeat poppy and Zima did the same.
and thanks to court me.
Tokenet say survivor.
You're she's going around as the token of say survivor.
No!
I was laughing because Dragon said they didn't mean that.
And I was like, shit. I just told
I was going to kill him with his family.
It is being clipped and I will be writing the Twitter.
The Twitter longer.
Shipp it. Don't be a bitch. See what happened
the last guy.
Oh my God. Oh, God.
Hell yeah.
What I was going to say was,
we're not going to go over the chat logs that,
thank you, Sai, for sending over to me.
I have them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, y.
We will have other parts, you guys.
Yeah.
Yes, we have to.
We both have other parts.
Here's what I'm going to say.
There was,
um,
God, Courtney was fighting another essay survivor in chat
when they were talking about consent.
And literally, yeah.
And literally was just like berating them saying, oh, why, I don't even believe you.
Literally.
That pissed me off.
Oh, my God.
What's your standard?
Yes.
What's the standard for essay?
What's your standard? What's your parameters for essay?
I mean, I'm not going to lie.
It's got to, it's a question you got to ask in terms of, like, defining terms.
Like, you remember earlier, like, we were trying to ask block for his metric.
It is a much more higher.
stakes version of that.
It kind of depends what was being said before it, in my opinion.
I will try not to react the way I want to react.
I will keep that in mind, but just right off the bat, oh.
There was a lot more.
There was a lot more in it.
Like what I'm, there's a lot I'm missing, I assume.
Yeah.
Like that reaction I feel like is probably justified for something I just shouldn't be speaking on.
There was a lot more regarding it that got a lot worse in that.
chat, but they were, they were really fighting that person.
Like, and I do mean fighting.
And it was, it was bad.
It was really, sigh can attest to it.
It was, it was insane.
The CSA victim was trying to make a video premiere, was saying that, oh, yes, the CSA victim said that the video premiere said that the video premiere was, isn't that great.
And then they said, why can't we premiere it?
It's a YouTube video.
Like, that was the argument being said.
Okay, yeah, sorry, don't listen to me.
That was fucking stupid.
Yeah, apologies.
No, it's not stupid if you didn't know, but just, uh, ooh.
Yeah.
Again, we have a...
My fault, my fault.
We have a whole ATM version.
Sorry, I...
This is where you guys are going to see, like, my faults come into play, or it's like, maybe I, like,
assume a little too much on one side, like an ass.
I think...
You weren't there.
I think being kind is not a bad thing.
No, it's not.
Being kind is not a bad thing.
thing. I am just a hater and I am just...
Yeah.
The thing is, it doesn't sound like you had a bad reason.
Like, it sounds like you had a good reason to think that.
So I'm not like...
No, fair enough. Thank you for calling me on it.
No, here's the... I am very employed.
And I don't mean that as like a dig to anybody, but like, I'm just gone a lot.
And so I don't know what's going on.
I am...
I do probably the least amount for the channel, aside from just showing up and sounding pretty.
But just like...
everything I do...
Everything I do or react to, it's just...
It's normally something I'm seeing for the first time.
Like, I didn't watch any of these videos, didn't read any of these screenshots or anything.
So this is just, as I'm seeing it, is how I am interpreting and reacting to things.
Can I read the midge message?
Yes, you can.
Please.
Quite, can you be the contemporary voice to introducing conflicting sides?
I don't think we're as disilland as you think.
I yeah but general processes like we're literally all the same page from everything I've seen and I've seen a decent of bit yeah yeah all right let's
fuck this I'm gonna crash out this one of the same or something I'm gonna crash out.
fucking you fucking ass I'm gonna fucking shoot myself in the face. All right we gotta we gotta get through this because I'm gonna actually scream imagine imagine telling a New Jersey person not to crash out I'll scream at Courtney right now I was born
What are your general I've gone?
I'm used to it.
Sad and I don't know.
This is just like super triggering to me because.
Not to call you much, sorry.
Yeah, so I thought I'd also bring you in here to hold my hand during this.
It's okay. He likes it.
In terms of the testimony, it's just, it's just kind of heartbreaking really.
It's just, it's always heartbreaking to me when people question their own sexual assault just because of the lack of education around it.
And like, something that I just want to say to anybody out there is a consensual sexual encounter is never something you're going to question afterwards.
okay like that's that's that's not that's there's levels to that people can regret having okay people can regret having sex with somebody i question i'll be honest sometimes it's not good but that doesn't mean it's like it's not i don't know how to word this sometimes you have a time of somebody and maybe it just wasn't that great that doesn't mean it was criminal it just means that either you or them or you guys just didn't have a good chemistry.
and it happens and you can just be like that sucked and you move about your day if this makes anybody feel better i've
got at every sexual encounter i've ever had and it never finished it's so sad
what's supposed to be funny what is god dave it's really sad that it's really sad that it helps thanks guys guys like the
stream to help quite feel better yeah dog thank you guys you guys we have in the chat for quiet listen if if
Let's double down.
Let's see.
Dude, I was about to make it.
You know what?
It's YouTube.
I don't get my fuck.
I'm gonna kill.
We're gonna meet each other at a con and I'm gonna kill myself in front.
I'll drown in the blood.
I'll hold you to it.
Remember, you gotta do it the right way though.
Listen, we're still mad at.
California, I can't really bring a gun there.
Quite.
Look, we're still mad at you.
No, also that's the only state we can ever,
that's the only state we can ever meet it, by the way.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
We can only ever be in California.
You can never hold me to this.
Listen.
I've planned it for the start.
I will speak for the up block.
We're still mad at you for not showing Kendrick our YouTube channel.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's definitely definitely.
Listen, man, did you want me to make it weird?
He's got like that doty guy who went homeless blaming him.
Like, and he's already getting enough on his plate, man.
Oh, my God.
All right.
He's got a lot going on.
Listen, he's got a lot more like this time.
Talk to me about it because we're close friends.
Yeah.
I'm just going through a lot, right, man.
like the tour right now.
My fucking, I have two children.
I'm Kendrick Lamar.
He said those things.
He said that out loud.
I have heard that recently.
He has, yeah, yeah, a lot.
He's been telling people like mid-sentence.
I'm Kendrick Lamar, by the way.
Yeah.
I'm going to be honest.
If K.P. can have her token SA survivor, we can have our token sex hater.
That's just how it's going to be from now on.
There we go.
I don't like that characterization.
Yeah, we have to have some balance.
We are diesel mods.
We have to have someone who's not like him.
Because allegations have been accused.
What do you mean?
Because we've been accused of been having too much sex.
That's the problem.
Somebody used the fact that we have sex against us.
I don't hate sex.
I just can't fucking get pussy.
And that's like, or taking my ass.
Is that a problem?
I can fix that.
That's not the point.
Let's keep going.
That's crazy.
Listen, Falgie, you can't handle this.
Proof it.
Okay, okay, listen, every stream that Felger gets on cannot evolve.
If I gave every bum I saw a shot.
Then you'd have one bum and that bum is me.
Let's go.
No, the bum's mine.
I couldn't think of a rhyme.
No, there's the rhyme.
Let's play it back on the sexual assault.
Oh, boy.
Maybe we should talk less about fucking on the...
You just don't question a consensual encounter.
The RR.
You have a consensual encounter.
It's XRRR.
We should stop talking about this.
It's different because they're talking about each other, though.
That's the difference.
That's fine.
That's true.
Anyway, hit play.
I'm good.
You know, regret that might be back and go,
you know, if I can make that decision again,
I probably wouldn't.
But...
Yeah, but that's you questioning it!
I don't question consensual, sexual,
experiences with,
did I just get violated?
To be quite honest.
And, like, the other thing that kind of breaks my heart
is there's one point
in her testimony where she questions
if I'm remembering this correctly,
that like maybe she was at fault
because she had a crush on him,
like maybe she was,
gave the wrong signal or something.
Maybe she implied something or he thought consent was implied.
I'm going to make some tea.
Like, in all honesty, consent is never implied.
That's not.
Like, even a potion coffee tea, by the way.
Please buy.
Thank you.
That's not true.
I've had, you know, as a juice up's partner, I've got some pretty fucking good.
That's not true.
I'm not, okay.
Can you run it back 20 seconds?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sorry, sorry.
No, it's okay.
is starting because, you know, YouTube fucked its own shit.
Like.
Well, it's fucking awesome how it just made it less usable.
Yeah, I know. It's like actively the worst thing.
Incent was implied because he knew there was a crush on her.
Like, in all honesty, consent is never implied.
Like even, even secure, confident individual.
That's not how that works.
Have you heard of some, baby, it's cold outside?
I just ran back to my mind.
I didn't, my, my, there's a third.
My mug is in the sick.
What the fuck did she just say?
Consent is never implied.
I've been, I've been, I've been.
Okay, did I miss here?
Did I miss here?
Did she mean, in her situation, it was never implied, or is she saying generally?
Generally.
I've been implied.
I've been in complied consent situations where like both I, I, or like, in situations, like, in situations, like,
somebody else is, like, you know what?
No.
And then, like, we're like, hey, it's, all right?
And that, that's what's not? What do you mean?
Like, like, you just, like, during, like, normal shit that, like, didn't have a yes or no answer, someone decided in the middle of it, no, nah, nah, nah.
And it's like, it's like, it's like, oh, shit, well, you know.
But, like, this is, that's all right. That's all right.
But this is the issue. It's like, when you say consent is never implied. I, I'm going to be very fucking.
I'm sorry. That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's a dumbest shit I've ever heard. I'm sorry. It's a dumbest shit of
ever heard. What are they saying? It's because it's implied, I guess. Yeah, but that's like, that's the thing. Okay, I want to make it very clear. None of these people were, I'm going to have to
pick it apart for a second. Neither of them were drunk. They were clearly from her own admission. He knew that she was very sweet on him. How? I don't, like, you know what I mean? Like, she didn't just say starstruck. She had a crush on him. That one means that she probably acted in a way that he kind of knew. And this is not being casting.
doubt on the accuser, but like, if he knows that you have a crush on him and he's constantly talking about the two of you dating. Can I, can I bring up like an emotional issue with, like, coming out with something like this in any public forum? Yes. It's, you're, you're asked to, not asked, but if you choose to come through with it, you agree to talking about the highly emotional situation that in other people's eyes, you need to prove.
happened mechanically.
So you have to talk about, like, what could be trauma mechanically.
Or it's like, consent is never implied where it's like maybe she has the experience with that.
And maybe that's true.
But it's also like, you're asked to treat your own emotional situation, or you choose to treat your own emotional situation.
Or you choose to treat your own emotional situation very fucking logistically.
And that is a horrible rise.
horrible line to even have to consider riding, but also a very easy one to, like, do a back lick off of and then, like, get paralyzed because of.
I think because Alex, I see you in chat. I want to highlight something for a second.
I'm Alex.
Just fuck off. Oh, God. A consent is not always verbal. Don't get me started.
Don't get me started. You don't just throw a woman into a makeout session suddenly. It wasn't.
Okay. So let's, let's, let's keep it a buck for a second. It wasn't suddenly.
he brought her to the room. He talked about dating her and then they made out.
If it was suddenly, there wouldn't be like any lead up, I don't think. To be fair,
never raped it once, so I don't know.
Yeah, and neither of hi. But that's, but like you are putting things out of order. He talked about them dating beforehand.
She said it was sudden. No. She said specifically the sex.
part. He made out and he led her to the bed. I'm going to pull up the allegations because I have
them and I want to make them very clear and make sure that I'm not misremembering either. But from my
recollection of what was said, I'm about saying, it has been a while.
You mean, yeah, because we weren't really listening to the video, to be fair. Uh, especially with
this conversation, that's definitely worth looking again. Did she say no at any part? No.
in a sexual encounter. We'll check in with their partner as things escalate and change gears.
And they'll say things like, are you okay? Should we keep going? I think there's like a level of, I think there's a level of responsibility that comes with making sure your other partner is enthusiastic.
Yeah, I will agree. Like, without them, like, saying no straight up, I think, like, there is a level of responsibility.
And I will, and to Asht's point, I think the only reason that they're asking that is to make sure that that wasn't included in the dock that there was a level of also.
also know that he's disregarding, which the accuser says that, no, they just disissituated, a disassociated, disassociated, disassociated. I apologize.
I like my bread, Swiss.
Um, immediately, okay, he almost immediately initiated making out with me and guided me to the bed. Never said it was sudden.
Yeah, it's, it. And it's after talking about dating each other.
It's not, it's talking about dating each other. We don't know the conversation taking back and forth.
If he's saying, I feel like there's something going on, maybe we should date each other, but is it wrong?
Is it right? And they're like, it feels like, at least in the first instance, I don't, the second instance, I have doubts on Sabrespark's intentions.
I, like, you know what I mean? Like, the coming on our face is deplorable.
but
I mean, did, did, did he ask or did it, was it an accident?
She writes, so she writes later, both times were sudden. I understand that. But that's disregarding the buildup that she is putting on.
That is a summary, but it doesn't explain what she's stating happened. I need you to understand that like, just because she later says it sudden, doesn't disregard the way she.
wrote it previously. And it also doesn't include what it's ever in their, like, the discussions. And I, and I hate, I hate reviewing this. Because I can see, I, okay, so here's my thing. I do think that she was taking advantage of.
I think that he took advantage of a fan, whether or not I, I believe personally in the power dynamic thing is a different story entirely.
I do think that he took advantage of the connection they had.
But is that rape?
So you think they fucked?
I think he, he wanted to get laid and she was into it, but she won more from it.
And he's like, I just want to get laid.
And she was there for it until there was like, obviously.
I'm not, I'm not going to speak on that.
Yeah, I'm not going to speculate on that.
I don't want to speculate on this, but y'all, y'all think they, like, actually fucked.
Well, she's saying that they had sex.
She is saying that he, he, he, he is saying that he, he,
he penetrated her.
So you think like she's like, you know, bet your metric where it's, not met, but, like,
gotten close to the metric of like, where it's like, where it's like, I can believe these fellows
knew each other and it was a misunderstanding, not just a fabrication.
Sorry, I was run out of breath by the way.
I'm, I'm leaning more to the misunderstanding, yes, personally.
Because I.
I won't live in playing Roblox during that.
this. That's fair. There's, there is, it kind of, it kind of hurts when I focused in, I spent
20 minutes focus again, and then like, I've felt a low belief. Yeah. It's, it's not because it's
stupid, but because I can't handle it. It's hard. It sucks. This shit is a hard topic. I have a lot of
respect for you all. Oh, well, thank you. Um, it's hard. And that's why I get a little bit frustrated
when there's, uh, and it's not just, I'm not calling out this, just this one person. It happens in other
streams too.
you get so stuck on the semantics and you get so stuck on the, uh, well, they said this and they're the victim and this and that.
Like, okay, I get that. I believe this person. I am still, I still have to look at the entire statement and I still have to think about the things around it. Like I'm sorry.
It's, it's, it's flooding the zone. It's like you, it's like we care. And it's like, you, y'all are the ones who are like putting in the time to checking the receipts. Like, like on the few topics that reach public, uh,
or a wider public eye, maybe what are public eye is the wrong term, but that like, reach a substantial amount of people who aren't directly involved.
It's like, you are the ones assigned with, like, checking the, the details.
Right.
Or you put that on yourself.
Yeah, exactly.
That was fucking rough with how that turned out.
And it's just like, Naomi King, Dan and were.
I don't know, any of that.
Oh, we have multiple.
It's, it's not, not a person who.
was disingenuous with the framing of their relationship and felt slighted and accused him of sexual impropriety when it wasn't the case.
And now they delete their whole channel and their gang mental health.
TLDR, they had a sugar relationship and she claimed it as sexual assault.
Okay, I couldn't remember the name of it.
Yeah.
I'm going to take your word on it so we don't hold up.
We're not going to go through it.
But again, it's the reason.
why I, the reason why we have to look at it is there is, because, because here's the thing, here's
why. There's so much at risk if you don't. Yes. Not only is there so much at risk that you don't,
you are also, um, like, you're also being downright, like, you're not giving Sabres Spark the ability to
respond if you do that. Right?
and he does, by all intents of purposes, does deserve to respond to this if he chooses to.
He should respond to this.
You have to give, I can believe things when I have a lot of physical proof and evidence, be it screenshots,
video proof, things like that.
But when it comes to testimony, that is a one-on-one testimony, it's very, very, very, very.
difficult and there are holes that we are missing that only he can fill in. And if he has proof of
anything that's potentially consensual, be it text messages, be it anything, it makes it muddy.
Maybe I'll sound biased on this, but like, I got to put it in that situation. It's like, I'm not saying
that like if there's legal stuff, he shouldn't take five months or however long if he needs to. Like, if there's
legal proceedings, do that first.
obviously.
Yeah.
But it's also like, yeah, I think, like the shit people have been dealt, like his fans, his audience,
publicly are probably going to go through shit for defending him.
Yeah.
And if you truly believe he's innocent, like, man, like, do that for them.
Yeah.
Like, if nothing else, if you truly believe that, give that your best shot.
Yeah.
And to chatters of the lurkers, we're also not defending him.
we're just trying to parse through the information.
Yeah.
This is, like, you guys have a very respectable way of going for this, and I really do co-sign it so far.
Well, thank you.
Thank you.
We also do try to, like, maybe we shouldn't always, but we also do try to be funny because this shit is heavy.
This shit is hard and it's heavy.
That's fucking ridiculous.
I won't mind.
That's why part of why I co-side it.
It let's, we're going to get back to it only because.
You can treat late.
Before you start it, you can use this like one of the, whenever you get out like pee.
Use this as like a radio cutaway.
Yeah, this is quiet.
You're listening to the alt block.
No, oh block.
Well, quiet, I love you, but I don't know if I'll be able to do that because the last time someone did that, they called me a pedophile.
So we're not going to do that.
That's crazy.
Oh, no.
The prophecy comes true.
Fight.
No, that wouldn't have happened if you didn't make it an easy joke.
Oh, fuck.
He said anything. He said anything.
It's never something that's implied.
Okay.
It's not, you know, an absence of a no is not a yes in any regard.
An absence of resistance is not compliance.
And even in that regard, compliance is not an invitation.
Because this girl had a crush on Sabre.
It was okay that he just kind of initiated things.
And then especially, too, in the elevator in a public space when he's just much...
Again, I'll say this before it continues to go.
Fuck the elevator thing.
that is disgusting, if not consensual.
And especially if they're not comfortable with it.
We'd all love to just believe the victims.
But that's not how humans work.
Thank you.
Lost the Worlds. Thank you. Thank you.
Like, physically.
I don't know.
It's all icky.
But like, what would you define consent as?
And when would you define, like, obviously this isn't it for sure.
But go ahead.
And in terms of like a definition of consent and what it is and what it isn't.
Consent is an excited yes.
Go for it.
Consent is.
Do you know how fucking good we have it to have conversations like this and then
get to fucking argue about the nuance.
Yeah.
Like, this just, like, lost.
I take it as a good sign that this is an argument we get to have to have.
And people get to live their lives, making sure that, like, people like, Fowalji are in a position where, like, people want to see the right thing done.
Yeah.
I think that's cool.
Yeah.
I, I, I...
Well, thank you.
I think it's cool, too.
I, I, as much as I hate topics, like, see Sam, like, essay and all this, like, say, like, essay and all this
stuff. I like hoping, I like the hope and pray that we try to give as much as a colored take.
I won't say. Yeah, like, you can try and be wrong and still try. Yeah. And it's like,
that, that's a privilege we have of the modern age that just didn't exist. Yeah. A while ago.
Also, I'm going to highlight it. 15 years ago, actually, 15 years ago. It didn't exist. Also, to be clear,
I don't understand why they went to another con with Sabre
after the first one went so bad
especially now that so much time has passed.
I, yeah, but we'll say this for sure I'm
several retards involved. I don't know.
No way around it.
Well, I'm gonna highlight something.
Because.
Sorry.
I'm not trying to call out your chat. I'm sorry.
I did say takes a color.
They're really funny?
I did say take some color.
I meant to say nuance.
Our chat is fucking funny,
I'm done. I'm done. I'm actually done. I'm actually done.
I got to let you speak.
So I will say this because they bring this up on stream.
Is exuberant.
Body language is included in the definition of a consent when we talk about it.
Thank you, Dave, for subscribing.
Thank you, Dave.
Is it Dave to diver?
I don't know.
No, it's a...
What's the fallout one?
Thank you, Dave.
The Republic of Dave?
Republic of Dave.
Body language is here.
Remember, remember they said that body language was in here.
I'm telling you now.
Again.
And also, I am not victim blaming.
These are questions that need to be asked.
What's the word I'm looking for?
Payback for lack of a better term.
term, I guess. Like, two people in a consensual encounter engage in a give and take.
Like, it's never just one person doing all of the action and the other person just laying there,
like, like a bump on a log. You know, it's an action that two people engage in when it's
consensual. Um, nine times out of ten, when it's one person just using another person's body for
sexual gratification, that's not a consensual encounter. Nine times out of ten. What do you mean?
that, like, what are you saying nine times out of ten sex is a fucking rape? What are you talking? What are you
talking about? You're crazy. This is like the token victim from KP's words talking, right? Yeah, I guess so.
Yeah. Okay. Just real quick, right? I'm not gonna, I'm not speaking for that person, but, oh no, go ahead.
I was going to say like an assault victim, like having a stronger position on that. I understand more than
most, but I'm also an assault victim. Like, yeah, that is, you can't throw away social context. You can't
can't. Yeah.
Because it.
Your words got to matter. Maybe I'm talking too much from a public figure stance. No.
But like, your position to speak on these things matter. Like, I don't know. You know what? I'm going to bring up an example of like why that type of shit matters. There was a bit ago. A few months ago, I screamed at a minor on a Twitter space.
Oh, no. Dream fan.
And I was just like.
I wasn't even like mad against the arguments themselves, but how he was presenting them.
He decided as Shreene and Minecraft with the Sherwalk outfit on. And you know, I got more heated than I should have.
Wasn't the right thing to do, obviously. But come on. Like, dude, like, the form factor matters. And that's not on the victim.
It's on the person arbitrating the conversation. Like, yeah. And I think that there's a real big.
issue.
That.
Lynn pointed out a good thing.
Like, Courtney's views of consent
come from like a place of trauma.
Because it's.
Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.
The relationship she had with her sister.
And it's not good.
Like she has extreme positions for a reason.
Yeah. I can, and I too can understand why she feels this way.
But it does suck that like,
it, this is going to sound, maybe this sounds fucked up.
It kind of tells me that you are a little bit unheeled.
And it's not something you'll ever like fully heal from maybe. I don't know. I don't know your journey, right? I can only say from like, uh, like experiences and things that people have shared with me. But it's just like to just, uh, nine times out of 10 to just like, do you just think people just don't like sex or that if you are a victim, you can never enjoy sex again? Like that's just to me, that's just a really weird thing to imply where where I was going with my strain of thought where it's like as a victim I can understand.
assuming the worst.
Yeah.
I'm going to keep.
But it's also like it's not fair.
Because most people do that as a part of the personal coping process, right?
And it's like they're able to live their lives parallel with other people who are not like that.
But engaged in behaviors they might otherwise not like myself included.
It's something I've had to check myself on a few times.
But it's,
it's not healthy.
It's, yeah.
I will say this. I'm going to refrain from speaking.
Oh, no.
Because it gets...
You know something, huh?
Uh-huh.
You know something. Oh. Let's get to it so I can...
That is just a violation of somebody's person.
And it's actually pretty common for, like, sexual aggressors to attack somebody, like, in a, in a innocuous sort of sense, like in the elevator.
Especially at, like, a convention.
or something like that in public because it sort of dissuades the target or the victim from actually
saying anything.
Because, like, half the time people will think, well, this is being done in public.
Surely somebody's going to say something, so I don't have to.
But the other part of them doesn't want to cause a scene.
The bystander effect is not going to...
We're not talking about the bystander effect.
We're not doing this right now.
I'm going to press play because it's good to just...
That's a stupid analogy. We should not do that.
The nuance.
The nuance is...
quite, I'm going to crash out.
You don't know what I know.
Let me finish the video.
And then I will have an opinion that you can tell me if I'm wrong.
Because they're already embarrassed by the fact that they're being attacked.
I'm not going to lie.
If it's something you can't say on stream, it might have to wait.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
They don't want to draw more attention to themselves,
especially while they're dealing with the fact that they're being attacked.
And part of them just hopes that somebody's going to do it anyway.
Like step in and say something anyway.
And the problem with the public, general public is they sort of fall into the someone else will deal with it mentality.
whereas everybody sort of assumes that somebody else is going to step in and say something.
So they therefore then won't.
Why are you?
I'm sorry.
Please don't blame the general public for allowing someone to be assaulted.
That's weird.
That's a really like weird way to look at it.
Like...
I, okay.
I'm sorry.
It's a really disgusting and disenfranchising to the victim.
Saying, ay, ay, aye, y, I God, I can't.
Okay. Okay.
Well, the other thing I wanted to throw in there, too, is nothing that's illegal, but kind of the parasycial relationship of, like, you know, it's always...
It seems like it's a common thing where...
We're going to go downhill from here, chat, and this is where I screw it.
Oh. Oh, my God. Hit play, hit play, hit play, hit play, hit play, you know.
It's like knowing the roller custer's going up.
But now it's kind of more discussed that that's a paradigmic that shouldn't really be abused.
And especially when you don't really know something.
someone in person. You know, like, from the testimony, this is her first time in person with Sabre.
And he immediately jumped, not immediately, but he pretty much immediately jumps on her.
So that also kind of gave me a big ick. Any thoughts on that?
And one other thing I wanted to add in is that, you know, confident individuals in a sexual encounter
don't have to assume that consent is there because they will ask. And to be honest,
that's... I'm sorry? Wait.
Maybe don't say that while you're eating, but.
Is this, oh, God, is it you or our inception?
I can't fucking...
Unrelated to the content, this might be the worst interview I've ever listened to.
Oh, 100%.
Okay, I wasn't crazy, right?
Did the other person literally asked, oh, any thoughts on that?
And then she just went on a completely, the other person just went on a completely different tangent.
Oh, no.
She'll go back to the parasocial shit.
Which one did?
Which one one of the ramp?
The interviewer, or the interviewee?
Interviewee.
Oh, God.
Courtney, any time you,
Okay, no, actually you...
It's Courtney.
Okay, I, I, I, for one, this has no place in this video.
No, it doesn't.
Genuinely.
What do you mean?
What else could I make it two hours long?
Don't, Midge, don't curse them.
It's not like they fucking...
Go on.
Okay, I'll do it.
It's, this is insanity.
Because you're constantly giving asterisk.
I gestured to it, they know my take.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I saw you point at the board.
the problem is, it's like, what is this conversation?
What are we doing?
What legitimately are we doing?
We are explaining the nuances of consent only if you're confident.
What if you're not confident?
Unconfident people have sex?
What are you saying?
Hey, man, I'm highly confident, and I don't be fucking, because of a choice.
It's not, we're not the same.
You're involuntarily celibate?
Is that what you're saying?
Tetric.
Brosen, Inso?
Alex, just to let you know, I'm kidding.
Because the, because the alleged victim...
Dog, look at me. Come on.
Because the alleged victim was talking on Twitter, I added them specifically for comment.
I did not, and I reached out the bonk, obviously.
I didn't want to just, like, tap them into that.
In Bonkers a Gene did show up.
Yeah, and he did show up.
And again, if the victim in this case wants to speak privately, by all means, I would love to.
I'm not going to...
You should.
They have, like, a public, like a public way they could reach you with that given their agenda.
Yeah, I added, I added them on the throwaway account.
Yeah.
So they made it for the point of it.
Another thing, too, if that person contacts us and wants to remain, that wants that to be private, that's, we're going to keep it private.
You don't, you guys don't get to know that stuff.
Yeah.
I totally leak that shit.
So you can, we're also not like the comments, but, you know.
We're also not.
I haven't followed your work long enough to know, but knowing off the rip, like, vibe sick, hey, excuse me.
accuser if you're looking at this, I give my vibe approval.
Oh.
Oh, hell yeah.
We're also not attacking them either.
We're just trying to parse through the information.
You guys are barely attacking KP.
You're being mad at things that are like, why the fuck did you have to
have to catch something worth talking about in this?
Yeah.
Like, I don't know.
I've been doing, would you believe me if I said I've been doing this commentary thing longer than
you all?
Never.
I've never watched one of your videos.
Never ever.
I'm really happy to hear that.
I don't ironically.
If you, you've got my, you've got my Greg seal of approval.
If you have a recommendation, I will watch one of your videos and then I will determine if I want to watch another.
No, I'm not going to send you one.
Good.
I know which one to send.
Okay.
Yeah, if a friend wants to send one that's on them, you don't put that on me, though.
I didn't make you watch anything.
Gun to my head.
Got, gun to my head.
gun to my head.
What do I watch?
Okay.
But that's the thing, right?
My issue is that we are talking about new, like,
you are constantly making caveats and asterisks.
It's really unhealthy.
Because you are,
you are legitimately disenfranchising people's own sexual experiences where
they're maybe uncomfortable and awkward.
Much love to Courtney with her, like, genuine experiences,
but objectively, some of the things he were saying are just like,
they're wrong.
They're just wrong.
Wrong and, oh, I don't, I'm not going to say wrong and harmful.
Harmful is not where I was going to stop.
I don't want.
I think harmful's a good word.
Again, I, this is my personal take.
Let's leave it.
I'm going to leave it there.
I'm going to leave it there because it's like, I, like, no, like, it's a lot I'm learning tonight.
And it's like I probably shouldn't like overdo it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Because Courtney deserves the same, you know, recommend, or,
or the same charitability, I think.
No, I understand.
Again, I'll just repeat what I said a little earlier.
It's just some of the things I'm hearing, it just sounds like,
oh, this is still something that weighs really heavily on you,
and I'm sorry for that.
Like, that, that I have sympathy for you.
That sucks.
Don't get me wrong.
But you can't, but you can't put the weird stuff on every single other individual.
Press the play button!
I can't deal with my internal emotions anymore.
The consent is there.
Because they won't ask.
and to be honest, I'm trying.
The only time you're not asking or checking for consent is because you know yourself that the yes is not there.
Oh my God, I fucking can't.
Oh, she says something so fucking stupid.
She just said, wait, hold on, hold on.
She just said that confident people ask.
So when you don't ask, you want to rape.
That's literally what she's saying.
Don't say it like that.
No, because that's what she's fucking saying.
Because if you don't ask, you have the.
the intention to rape somebody.
That's what she's fucking saying.
Guys, guys, I have an immediate counter.
Yeah.
I got the vibes from a guy, one guy.
Yeah, I did want to fuck him.
And then we got close.
And we were like making out.
And then I said, actually, I don't want it.
And he's like, hey, my fault.
Oh my God.
Argument over.
Sorry, dog.
No, you're funny.
It really is that easy.
It's supposed to be that easy.
I understand it comes from a place of trial.
but it's like you can't like you can't do that if you don't know the details like that especially you can't be the source of authority you're a victim of specific the
same way I was I'm glad you laugh because they will ask I'm sorry Mitch said you won some only time you're not
what did what did Mitch say I got beef because you know yourself that the yes is not there okay I want to know
the no, so you will not ask.
Okay?
Because if you think consent is complied and you think the person that is, you know, on the other end of it is actively participating, if you know the answer is going to be yes, then what do you have to lose by just asking?
And being a responsible individual.
Okay, I'm, I'm going to say it's going to be cringe.
I'm going to say asking, hey, is this good?
Hey, is this good?
Are you sure you still like asking like mid something is uncomfortable for some people?
Yeah.
Like it is.
Things are going to be alive for.
for God zombies after this.
I will.
I'll have to buy the game though.
Oh, Fowl. G, I'm going to, like, you're mine.
Give me your steam code.
I don't have the game, but I'll buy it for me again.
I don't think your computer can run it.
Yeah.
Fuck off, you fuck.
No, it came out in 2015.
They can definitely run it.
You don't know his computer.
Uh, fuck you, you son of a bitch.
I got my game.
We'll work it out.
Listen, I need a sugar daddy.
Please help me.
Really quick.
Anyone who is?
tired. Anyone who's tired. You can go to bed. It's okay. Okay.
Okay. Dude, I'm the most racist I've ever been right now.
What the fuck.
Get to the rest. Okay. Yeah. So if you're white or German or French or English, get out right now.
All right. Let's get to this. Save it. Let's go. Like, rock star sleeping with reviews.
Wait, wait. Here. No, no. This is the point that you're, remember what I said?
Rockstar sleeping with reviews. Come down to like literally consent. We're going to go. We're going to go to
Two, two, two back.
Being a responsible individual when it comes to sexual practice and just asking.
And the difference between, like, rock stars sleeping with groupies comes down to, like, literally consent.
Like, there's a big difference between, you know, the chick who's going to see the rock star perform and, like, flashing her tities while he's performing.
And then going and flashing her tithies to the bouncer to get back.
Flashing tities is consent.
She just said flashing tities is consent.
I'm not going to, can I, can I, like, a general hot take?
I think it's bad that it happens with YouTubers.
I think it's worse because the people who are groupies know less.
Yeah, sure.
I also, like, I personally don't even care about, I'll be honest.
I don't care about groupie culture.
It's too late.
Yeah.
Groupic culture is over.
I think it's just.
Like, I just, like, we'd be talking about like 30, fuck year olds.
Fuck it.
All right.
15 year olds.
Like, fuck.
fucking 15 year olds.
Oh.
And like you actually catch the age gap sooner in YouTube.
You don't have discourse about that on rock.
Or subredits.
Yeah.
But let's, yeah, let's just.
Stage.
And then flashing her titties in the rock star's face, probably making out with them a bit of her own volition.
And one of them saying, hey, let's go back and sleep in the van.
Like, there are multiple instances where consent is very, very clearly given by the groupie sleeping
with a rock star.
And like, yeah, there may be a certain power dynamic.
And like, there absolutely is multiple instances of rock.
what I okay so we're going on Neil Gaiman okay she flashes Neil Gaiman yeah does she
flat like this is not this not the same thing and like why did you pick the comic book writer
versus the rock star because she's fucking stupid because she's fucking stupid this is a terrible
argument for consent yeah I was about to say what are we on about right now this is a terrible
this is a terrible argument for consent because you are allowing
and you are okaying some parisocial relationships, but not all.
You cannot be for some and not all.
I'm sorry when you say that.
You can't say, oh, well, Sabrespark took advantage of this fan,
but not the rock star because the rock star is getting their titties,
getting titties in their face.
Who cares if they're underage ditties?
They don't what I mean?
Like, like, what are you saying?
I think the rock star groupie thing, I'm going to be honest, is worse.
I think it's worse.
Yeah, well, that's,
That's what I'm saying.
Like, we, again, this is for those who, for those who are like, oh, you don't blame the victim,
but that's, we're not doing that.
But that's the reason why their text conversation is vitally important.
Because we don't know what the conversation between them was.
Were they ever discussing dating?
Was, did she pull back at one point?
Like, that's an actual thing.
If she clearly said, no, we can't do this in there, that gives a lot more credence to the
fact that Sabres Park didn't give a fuck about consent or didn't give a fuck about it.
That's why people are asking.
Did the rock star flash bang?
No, they did fuck the 13 year old though.
Yeah, but that's, yeah, did the rockstar consent to, yeah, that's a great thing.
The rock star didn't consent to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the flat, to the, to the, to the flat, tody flashbang.
Isn't, then does that mean that the groupie is a rapist?
Like, they don't, like, this is why this, this argument falls apart and Courtney
has no fucking clue.
But this, your commandments!
Sorry.
That's crazy.
Also, just, again, why is this heat part here?
Why is,
what does this have to do with what happened?
Because Courtney thinks that she's a fucking expert matter.
You're not.
I'm sorry, you're a fucking YouTuber.
You are not, you're a YouTuber.
And it's really sad to say this.
you're a YouTuber and part of, oh god, part of the legacy is who your sister is.
And it fucking sucks to say that.
Can I say this aesthetically as possible?
Oh, the victim tweeted me back?
Fucking baller.
Where, where did that?
Because I'll DM you if you follow me.
Fuck me.
Crazy.
So I'm mouse five.
There we go.
I followed you.
There we go.
I followed you.
Rosie, no. I feel like a dead chicken and a decaying in a coop.
No.
But again, like, this is, we have, yeah.
Thank you, Alex, for letting me know.
Yeah.
Thank you.
If you give up your, you give up your reputation and quality of content for a little longer, we can finish the video.
I know, I know.
True.
Rock stars.
You just got to go.
You just got to go and forget about all the journalists.
But there's a big difference between going, hey, I'm going, hey, I'm going to show your titties.
And someone going, I'm showing you my tities because I want to sleep with you.
Right?
Like, just the act of, like, basically showing you my titties is in, no circumstances.
That's the same argument you could say that going to the room with her.
In no way is, I'm a big fan of yours, an invitation to touch somebody's body.
No, but going to the room implies.
By your metric.
Not by ours.
By yours.
So he invites her back to his hotel room.
I went to a room with someone recently.
I went to a room with them.
We argued to figure it out.
And the fact that she didn't realize that just shows how naive she was.
And the fact that none of that was communicated.
That was so gay.
He knew what he was invited her back to the hotel.
People have agency.
That is gay.
Naive people have agency.
And that just gives me like major, the major ick, to be quite honest.
Because like, I don't care what your fucking icky is.
You fucking idiot.
Like he's Gene Simmons inviting you back to, you know, the hotel room.
When in reality, he's a project errone.
Maybe he already back a little bit.
Oh my God.
I apologize.
I hate none of this important.
Yes.
She said flashing your.
Tits is an invite to touch you. Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
I just, really?
Before he shows you his dick. Like, that's not the same thing at all.
Like, you think there is some kind of weird parasycial dynamic, too, that she felt uncomfortable, you know, advocating for herself.
Because, like, oh, this is the real Sabresport TM. Like, I don't want to feel like, you know, you're going to, you know, you might go back a minute and say something on Twitter, you know, is there pressure.
I know we talked over it. I heard it. I know. I know. We know what was said, though. You, you guys told us.
multiple times. If I'm going to be honest, it's, she said it multiple times at this point.
Yeah, we can't go back every time. We say something stupid. We're talking because we know this shit is stupid.
This is the, I can't believe, fashing your tits is not an invite.
Encounters with fans, I guess. Of course, she would have felt uncomfortable advocating for herself.
Like, most, most fans don't get to meet their idol in person. So meeting your idol in person is already a very, like, exalted sort of status. Like, that's something most fans dream of, but never actually get to.
So once you put a fan in the situation where they're meeting their idol in person.
It's the same thing as the rock star.
You're so fucking stupid. You were literally a fucking moron.
You were literally giving excuses for this woman to be sexually assaulted.
You are so fucking retarded.
I said it. I said it. I said it. I said the fucking slur. I don't care anymore. I'm done. I'm done.
You are giving excuses for people to be sexually assaulted.
You don't understand how fucking stupid it is right now.
Like, you are giving excuses.
There been a Mardi Gras themes or fucking.
I,
That's not.
But the Marty girl, there's a, there's a, you kind of know you might see something, I think.
And so you would just not go there, right?
If you didn't want to see anything.
But it's just like there's also, uh, I mean, I haven't been, but I, I'm, I'm a told
that there's a transaction of beads for a flashing.
That's still like a sort of transactional thing instead of just, you know, lifting your shirt up.
And I know I don't use that word and I apologize.
I'm just, what?
It's crazy how all these obloat people just sit slurs all the time.
I am apologizing. I don't say slurs all the time.
Oh, sorry, I said to birdie. She said that he says.
I'm just, I don't like using slurs and I apologize.
I am just, incredible.
incredibly upset that she is giving people an excuse, a playbook on how to make implied consent.
And she's making an excuse for people who will pray on others.
It's upsetting to a degree that I do not understand.
Chat, Lauren.
Chat, I've never said it.
So I, by default, am your favorite.
The Browns win.
The best.
Brown people win again.
Yeah.
that and that includes offending their idols and like it's it the idol knows that and for like say like anybody to sit there and be like well you know what if what if so and so wasn't aware of the power dynamic like they always know you can always tell you can always feel it you can tell when somebody is a rock star you and fuck to like to like to like for someone who's going to say no to me or at least give me a hard boundary that could possibly offend me so i'm going to yeah yeah midge the shit i was saying was literally the fucking basis of my argument for that or it's like
like you wanted to make out with them quite you made out with him no it was because we had a
fucking disagreement we went like it wasn't even a him it was a girl we went to the goddamn room
we talked out of hugged and then we'd left and then people assume we fucked do you understand the
issue do you understand like why i take umbrage with what you're saying it's like i literally
talked it out with the opposite gender and people assume we fucked when we didn't and that was
what i was mad about
Christ
I can hear the echo in your house
you all right?
I'm a really rich person
the big house I was about to say damn
all right damn all right damn
my office is in the
loft
yeah
damn he's got a loft
I got a fucking hole in the wall
I live in the south man
I'm about to move in I guess
bye
I'm not going back I ain't going back
things of you that I know you wouldn't say yes to in any other
I appreciate it. And like to be quite honest, no fan is going to do any most, sorry, most fans are not going to do anything other than fall into line with that.
Because again, they're getting to an exalted status of getting to meet their idol in person. You know, they've been a fan of this person, they've been a fan of this person, they've dreamed of meeting this person. They're not going to jeopardize that by offending that person by saying no. And not that those relationships can't happen, but it's very tricky water as far as, you know, establishing and acknowledging the power dynamic and discussing it before like even anything were to happen. But I don't know. My whole MO has never really been to go date your fans because, you know, you know,
know, like your fans are not a dating pool. They're like, they're just, you know, they're there to consume your content.
I don't know. It's not, it's not technically illegal, but it just kind of ick to me.
And in terms of dating your fans, like, I don't know, I just kind of missed the days where it was considered just not kosher to date from your fan base.
Like that was...
Who, a PewDie Pied Pry married a fan. I don't, like, I don't care. I don't care. Listen, I don't care if you fuck a fan.
If they're, again, there's stuff about nuance and new ones. I was going to say, there's, there's nuance and stuff. And like, people.
are if people are adults and it really is just like a hidden and quitted situation.
I'm a real. I really don't give a fuck.
I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. For me. You're adults. I don't care.
Hyrodynamics can be overcome. So if like they have a long-term relationship, there's still something that can be done there if they're an adult. I trust them to parse the reality that live inside of.
So if it's a fan who's like 20-something, they can never date a creator they ever liked. I don't know, man.
Well, that's, but that's the thing is that the metric is they can never see your videos.
Like, I'm sorry.
Again, there's like, there's nuance and like there's, like, layers and stuff, right?
I'm not saying it can't ever be icky or weird or.
Yeah.
Or even if, what I'm saying is great, you can still just be like, personally, you can still just be like, uh, and then move on with your life.
Again, I don't, if everyone's an adult, I don't care.
What I'm saying is, I think the default is that it's weird and I think with good reason.
I don't think there's good reason to think that, like, somebody can't.
form of any sort of relationship with like something that they've made.
It's like that's happened throughout A, history, B, modern that we don't judge it for, and C,
motherfuckers just sometimes don't know.
I mean, I'm a, I'll keep it a buck and I'll hold myself to a standard.
I don't care personally, because I personally, I personally don't care if it happened to me.
I also hold the right if a fan comes on to me and I don't like it.
I tell you no.
Like, are we consenting adults?
Okay.
But like, I'm not going to play this fucking like, like, I'm not going to play this fucking like, like, I'm not going to.
Yeah.
Are we consenting adults?
If a, I, like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not dealing with it anymore.
Like, I think that like we're fighting it for forever.
And it's at the end of the day, it's like,
like, if you use your status as a creator to shame a fan, that's a completely different story,
especially if you've slept with them.
But like, you know what I mean?
Like, a fan came up to me and we were chilling and we were hanging out of a bar and shit happened.
I'm not going to, like, listen, I'm not stupid.
Here's my ultimate take.
I think the context matters.
And that's a gay way of getting out of it.
It's the context, though.
You can come at it from every.
angle, there's probably at least one situation outside of, like, a crazy age gap.
Yeah.
That I, like, wouldn't be like, I think you probably know enough about the world.
Yes.
Or it's like, I have family, or it's like, someone's 26. He's dating a 46-year-old.
That motherfucker could have a master's right now.
Yeah.
Like, the content.
The motherfucker could operate under my spleen.
Like, I'm, I'm sorry.
Like, I'm just not.
Adults need to have agency.
If you take agency away from adults, there is a larger,
issue at hand that people will not.
Like, the ramifications of taking agency from grown-ass adults.
What you define as in an adult is one thing.
But when somebody gets a ways past the collectively agreed thing,
like, if you're 26 and you're like, no, I like this 40-year-old, I don't fucking care.
I don't, I don't. I don't.
And like I said, if you're a fan with a lot of money and you want to sugar me, go for it, baby.
O-F all day.
Hey, there's the power dynamic.
Listen, you won't pink pill me, but we'll get somewhere.
Dog, if you own the built war, fucking, if you own the belt war, bitch, like, fucking ask me whatever you want.
Yeah.
Let's go.
It was considered poor form because, like, your fans aren't your peers.
And I just, I always question why, like, when somebody can't pull from their peers, like, why is it that you can't, like, why is it that you can't, like, land somebody and date somebody who's, like, on an even place?
field with you? Why does there have to be a power imbalance?
It's not a power imbalance. I'm sorry, it's not a power imbalance. I'm going to say it's straight.
Not a power imbalance of the way that you're saying it is.
Like, this weird colloquially new thing. I get it, but like this is not. What's your understanding the situation?
I'm sorry. It's a power imbalance. Like, like, if you, like, if you have no pull from your peers, you can't date anybody lower than you.
Like, uh, and that's like what she's talking about. I'm sorry. I've, like, tuned out every now and then.
No, no, no, no.
yeah, it's, it's like, if you're dating from your fan base, it's because you have, like, you have no pull at all.
And, like, it's, it's, like, like, I'd say that sometimes other creators like you, your content.
Yeah. That's what I was about to say. Like, I am a fan of other people's shit that I'll never meet, by the way.
Like, not me, right? You were a fan of me, and then you wanted to fuck me, right? I mean, yeah, sure.
We can agree with that.
It wasn't enthusiastic enough. I'm gonna move on.
All right, guys.
End of my time on the stream.
I get everything out while that.
Listen, he tried to milk me dry more ways than one, if you know what I mean.
But you're still wet, aren't you?
I mean, we can fix that.
All right.
Always like the joke with these types.
The joke was wet to dry.
And there's always there are, there's always a power imbalance.
And if you have a track record of having
a power imbalance in your relationships.
What is wrong with you?
Like, why do you need to have a one-up on somebody in order to-
Why are we saying, why are we saying this is record?
This is the first thing we've ever heard of this.
Okay, I was going to continue. We're not going over to-
We got to keep going. We got to keep going.
We do. We do. I'm just so close to explain.
If you want to comment on.
If you question if it's a violation, it probably was.
If you feel violated, that was not consent.
Stop!
Yes, quite.
Count your fucking axioms and logic.
Please!
I'm asking you to fucking adhere to the minimums!
I'm angry about academics.
This is so stupid.
Oh, my God.
Amazing.
I'm, I got to pee, man.
This is, I'm mad.
He got so mad. He has to pee, brothers.
Hey, to be fair, it's an O'Sman.
OCD compulsion.
It is.
Your feelings are valid.
Technically, now you're in able to.
Consent is never implied.
Okay.
Real men who get bitches ask for consent.
I guess that's it.
Right.
Shit.
What a good way to end the video.
Not end the video and the segment.
What a good way to end the segment.
Some of them are brown.
Why make this video?
Unfortunately, this is inside about how.
Here, I'm not going to play the end of this video.
The end of this video is telling people how to be better people.
Fuck you, Kim.
Then the other part of the video is discussing,
discussing the fucking, what's her stupid fucking name, Lily Orchard, because let's
make fun of her for it.
Again, I don't care.
So, on the dark place, there are some of the voice actresses and actors are saying that they
were contacted to do VA work, but they were never told what it is.
They continue to talk about it a little bit more, saying, hey, big fan, blah, blah, blah, blah,
and look who says that it was true, that they were never told what the video was about.
I love Kim possible if I click on the YouTube page.
Holy shit, is that the real I love Kim possible?
Yes, it is.
It's the real person.
Here's what I love to say.
I love KP should never, ever, ever, ever, ever touch any allegations like this again.
Ever.
Nope, I just got my camera out.
I Love Kim possible should never touch allegations like this again.
I think it's very fucking damaging.
She, I in my opinion, ruined.
Not necessarily quote unquote credible allegations, but allegations that could
have been levied against him.
I think it should have been a separate video.
It's couched in all of their private concerns, all of their private problems, and I'm fucking
tired.
I'm exhausted.
I want to literally crash out.
Again, Courtney, you want to debate me on your weird fucking crazy idea of fucking consent.
Go for it.
You literally said flashing titties was consent.
You got no fucking stake in the game.
But chat, that's the end of our nine hour and seven.
17 minute stream.
I want to thank everybody for turning out.
That's a work day.
That's a fucking hours.
I love each and every one of you.
Each and every one of you are great, doing great work.
If you haven't already joined the Discord, please join the Discord.
If you become a fan of this, that's what we do.
Falji, the vid in the description is the hip to this taffo vid.
I'll fix that later.
Fuck me.
I didn't realize that.
But we're going to keep going to do a cosign right now.
Co-sign quite.
Go do it.
Fucking Falgi made me one.
want to catch up with the stream.
I joined at like a two hours mark and got caught up at like the four hours mark because
I had to walk away, do some shit.
This guy's note, this guy knows what he's doing.
He got, he got people in here in the chat and he was able to like, like, match himself
to their energy and got some really great work out of that and like brought this situation closer
to consensus.
Even if that that will never truly exist, he did more work than you'll ever see most people do.
And that can only be attributed to him and his team.
Ash, Greg, fucking.
all of them.
Cloudy, like, you got to respect a work to do here, right?
Right?
Thank you.
Come on, Chad.
You got to respect.
You got to respect their dedication.
They do it long.
They let people come in and they speak with them.
That's some shit.
Like, you can't speak earnestly about with a lot of people.
And you got to love it.
Thank you.
so much.
I appreciate that.
I want to thank quite.
You guys earned it.
I want to thank quite for being here.
I want to thank each and every one of you.
Greg, Cloudy, Ash.
I want to thank everybody.
Black Ops 3.
Sy, you're the best.
I'm going to, here's the end card.
I'm tired.
Killjoy, you did the greatest things.
Trans Ultron forever.
And you know what?
Fuck me.
I'm dying.
Bye, everybody.