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I'm
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doing chat. It's so nice to see each and
every one of you. You know, we go live
after three songs. You know me when I
know the lore. Hello, chat. And if you
know what time it is, if we reach that
goal, we feed that puffer. Thank you
guys so much for being around.
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I'm going to hell, chat. I'm going to
hell. I'm
going Oh, we're going to hell. I say
wait.
You're disavowed.
You know, he
played himself. He wanted to do it so
bad. He wanted to do it so bad.
A
[\h__\h] I can't. Please actually use We
Listen, we don't have our own version of
that. So, I feel bad. Uh, and also I
don't know if I
like Okay, so what is ours? Ours is XRR
extreme
like Oh, no. It's extreme rape review.
Yeah. With a with a giant X, which
again, this is not to make fun of or
make light of any uh uh uh uh sexual
assault. Like this is this is
legitimately as a joke because the joke
is you are our design. You have to
explain the joke. It's not funny
anymore. Yeah, I I there are some like
there there's some soybeans out there.
There are so this is going to be a soy
chat. This is going to be a soy topic.
There are soy beans in the chat. Soy
beans. Oh, I see you chat. I see you.
Hello everybody. My precious soy beans.
My precious my precious precious my
precious precious soybeans. Hello
everybody and welcome back to the oplo
your onestop shop for everything
commentary news research and other
things happening on the internet. I'm
your host
Falgexe and today Hey hey hey there
there's a reason I'm a pony. It's
because this is MLP drama baby. Len I
can't repeat what you just said.
What did Lynn say? You can read it. He
can't. Yeah, he just said he can't
repeat it. I can't repeat that. Someone
has to make it right now. That's That's
it. No, no, no, no, no, no. So, no.
Don't worry about it. Moving on. Moving
on. Gosh, you're so bad at moving on.
I'm not going to read it. Let me start
reading it. Yeah, read it. Read it,
Greg. Do it. Do it, Greg. You I had on
top chat. I'm sorry. I had top chat.
Wow, that's a statement. But Oh, you're
on top. First time for everything. Oh,
no.
That's rude. Oh, yeah. Petition for Fali
to cover all songs in the stream intro
with Aapulco smiles. No. No. You want
Aapico? You want Aapico? Uh uh uh songs,
but it is what it is. But chat, we have
a very jam-packed clipop patty walk. I
don't know any of the brony lore. So,
chat, you're going to have to fill in
the
blanks. We have a very, very crazy
stream.
But begott's still on the men, so we
couldn't ask him. Oh, don't say that.
He's probably He's fine. I listen. Uh,
don't say klo. Why? Why? That cuz that
means fap.
Ponies. Yeah. Why are you people so
weird? I What do you mean you don't
know? You know the internet? Not Well,
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know [\h__\h] Brony
Gooner. They're all pedophiles lore. I
can't wait for that one. You can't just
call everybody a pedophile. I I mean,
turn to Tyler. Listen, to be to be fair,
throw throw a [\h__\h] hoof at the brony
fandom. You're going to hit about six of
them on the way down. But more
importantly, joining me today is some of
my favorite people on the internet. Hey,
Star. Thank you so much for becoming a
boom operator. Star Shinny became a
member.
But more importantly, I joined by some
of my favorite people. CPR isn't
Yeah, but how do how do you do that? How
do you do CPR? How are you getting How
are you getting How are you getting CPR
from that? No, no, you How are you
getting bamboozled before you even Hey,
shut up.
But more importantly,
I joined by some of my favorite people
on the internet. You know them, you love
them. their pony ties today. It's Ash.
What's going on, Ash? Uh, nothing much.
I uh watched Barbarella with Killjoy
when we're waiting for when we're going
to start stream. It's a pretty good
movie. Really goofy. Really campy.
Barbarella? Yeah, Barbarella.
Yeah. Yeah. Have Pam Pam Anderson in
Yeah, it's Oh, no. has No, it's Jane
Fonda. Jane Fonda. I'm thinking I'm
thinking barbed wire. Barbed wire. Okay.
Was there a stripper one? Am I
I thought there was Pam
Andersonella from the Simpsons.
Boomerella. Thank you. You know, I
recently watched like a video essay on
the Simpsons today, but that's neither
here nor there. You know them, you love
them. Are there bald ponies? Well, we're
going to find out today. It's Q's hood
ornament. What's going on, Q? I paid
$400 for groceries today. Jesus.
Teriff's sitting everywhere. Hi. Hi. Do
if you're available, you should come on
down to the bronio clock. Only if you
want to. Only if you want to. I super
late for her. Is it Is it really super
late? I do. Get in here. German.
More important. Get the German in here.
More importantly, chat, I bring you the
man with every information that I have
seen on the internet at all times. He
knows everything. He's been everywhere
on the internet. You know him. You love
him. But I love him more than you ever
will. It's Uncle Greg. What's going on,
Greg? We were supposed to do this two
hours ago, but then Fouchi had a life
crisis. I did have a life crisis. That
that's that's just Fi's life is the
crisis. What do you Okay. What What do
you mean it's the life crisis? I don't
have a life crisis. You just said you
Okay. You said you're going to kill
yourself. I'm like you're going to crash
out in in my crash out. I Okay. I was
not going to crash out. I just don't
need people just jumping in to like my,
you know, into my area things. Uh have
you heard of your area? my area.
Have you ever heard of a group uh of
bronies that wanted to travel to
Equestria with an electric fedora hat?
They wanted to travel there to steal
Pony's gold. What the [\h__\h] does that
Okay, chat, we're going to have a real
quick talk before we get this uh uh this
uh stream on the way and going.
This
stream, if
possible, may be a threepart look into
the brony
fandom. When I tell you right
now,
this
video [\h__\h] threw us into a a a
cavalcade of brony lore of just how many
people have been outed from that
community over the years. How this ties
into everyone and everything. Yes, maybe
one day we'll listen to the tune critic
thing. Um, this stream, for those who
don't know, will No, you're fine. Will
contextualize
the recent video that came out from I
Love Kim Possible regarding
uh specifically regarding um the Saber
Spark allegations as well as the
allegations towards DA Games
towards DA Games and this gentleman
named Chris. We will get through all of
it as much as we can. Today's stream is
going to be primarily focused on I love
Kim Possible a lot and the video that
she put out.
Does how does this affect LeBron's
legacy? Uh
I didn't I didn't know if LG really
liked Kim Possible. Yes, Mr. Gamer. We
will talk about Black Griffin because he
comes up in this story. So, black. So,
there's going to be a lot of brony lore
and a lot of allegations and confirmed
little things here and there within the
brony
fandom. Today, we won't be going over a
Google
docy, but that's going to change for the
next two streams because there's Google
Dockies.
Now, I have to make something very
clear. Content warning right now. You're
going to watch
cringe. You're going to watch like real
cringe. Um Oh, I'm so excited for real
cringe. Cringe. Let's go. I
have I have talked to some people behind
the scenes uh
regarding uh regarding I love Kim
Possible. Um you really love Kim
Possible. It's Yes. Yes. Yes. Uh I isn't
it? I I love a lot. Yeah. Kraken's
better. I'm sorry, L for naming. It's
all the way. I don't care. It's She go.
Will we get links? Yes. Uh, as always, I
always put links to the videos in the
description. Uh, it's going to be a
crazy time. Um, yeah. I'm just probably
going to just call her KP. Um, so this
stream primarily is going to be focusing
on KP, the reason this video was created
in our opinion, looking on her research,
uh, uh, looking at her history,
um, and a lot of the other things that
went into
uh, what I believe to be, again, this is
just mine and our assumptions based on
the evidence that has been presented to
us.
and what we can find uh regarding this.
And I want to make very clear as we're
going into the main part of the video.
Uh I attempted to reach out to the accu
the individual who was accusing Saber
Spark. I was unable to uh I added them
on Twitter. I didn't DM them because it
appeared to be that they were constantly
uh doing tweets. Yes, Mr. gamer. We're
going to be going over the Sun mouse's
tweets because they have been replying a
lot.
However, this is a big
however. I was able to speak briefly
with the
individual who platformed the uh who
platformed these um these
allegations. Um I will briefly
summarize. I'm not going to fully leak
our DMs. There ain't anything [\h__\h]
special. Um I'll kind of like briefly
summarize my questions uh regarding it
and the answers that I got. What I was
told was a this person yes brony fandom
does not like KP at all. um at this
point is very upset with KP from what I
can understand from the answers I got
which is very brief because when I asked
them how did the person you know reach
them for for instance I got a oh that
video is unimportant you should just
listen to the victim instead which I
agree but you directed Brony Fan don't
directed the accuser to KP directly and
we're going to say why and why that
matters.
So, in the
chat, I saw somebody talk about a person
by the
name of Black
Griffin. This is why this matters. Uh, I
am going to turn around.
Griffin did nothing wrong. No, don't
don't do that. Don't don't don't say
that. Berserk. From Berserk. From
Berserk. Don't do that.
You can't say that. You can't say that.
Ash. Ash. Ash. What? The The character's
name is Griffith. Griffith. Griffith.
Yeah.
So, it's important to understand loosely
who Black Griffin is for a reason. So,
we will do a whole stream dedicated to
this Google doc as well as dramas around
it. Black Griffin's drama is like one
act will stay on Cyber Sparks Cyber
Spark's career kind of and we'll get to
there. So, Black Griffin, a aka known as
Gabriel Brown, is a
individual who has been in the Brony
fandom for a very, very long time. Very
long time. There are videos, there's
like an archive video of these weird
like brony [\h__\h] uh dubs. I Love
Impossible in it a lot is in it. Even
this guy's in it. and
specifically, interestingly enough, his
now wife,
who at the time was in those
videos, she was 15, 16, and he was
25. Now, it's it's very important to
highlight this. There is a lot to go
over when it comes to the Black Griffin
saga that I cannot do in one night. This
would You thought the Mama Max stream
was [\h__\h]
long? This gets even worse. It's
important to note, and I can't believe I
have to say this. Brother U is very
correct. Yes, Lazy Bed Head is very
good. I clowned on a little bit
describing the different types of
grooming, but I watched her video. It's
very well made. Uh we probably will be
referencing it here and there in uh our
stream on it because there's clips that
she
has,
but this guy has known Yeah. terrorism
grooming. If you saw my tweet, that's
where it comes from.
Um, but it it's something really
interesting to note that regarding Black
Griffin, he was always around his now
wife and their mutual friend while those
two were minor voice
actors
because, and this is all I can look at
right
now, the
friend. Mom was I I at this point it
kind of looks like mom was playing
everybody's uh agent specifically for
her daughter. Um there
were how do I express this? Possibly
I'm not going to go that far. Matchmaker
potentially potentially. Okay. Yes. So
Black Griffin would go around with his
then wife. I mean, no, no. Well, excuse
me. Black Griffin would go around with
his now wife, though wasn't at the time,
as well as the their friend who was also
a minor because they were a packaged
deal at Baron Cons because they Gabe
became a voice actor outside of doing
fan music. All of this preamble to say
that this is one of the biggest things
that is the point of contention with
Saber Spark because Saber Spark for a
period of time would defend Gabriel
Brown because Gabriel Brown aka Black
Griffin would constantly say, "Hey, I
know uh uh uh I know that I knew my uh
my wife back then um but we weren't
friends. Uh, she had this crush on me
and I constantly turned her down, but
she only told me this when we were when
she was
20. Mr. Gamer, I swear I I we don't have
time.
But all of this to say that over a
period of time, Saber Spark would defend
Black Griffin. And this seems to be
where a lot of from what I could
see on the surface anyways would have
been KP's eye with Saber Spark, which I
understand, right? I I totally get it. I
understand that. I don't feel
comfortable about it either. I I'll be
open and honest about that. I've talked
about things like this. Like this was a
this was a child actress that was
vulnerable. Whether or not anything
happened before she came of age is not
really my issue. It's the fact that it
does feel like her and her friend by all
accounts were offered up on a silver
platter to them. It also doesn't make me
feel better that if you look at tweets
in the
past, fans would play into their
flirting on
Twitter in in way, shape, and form. Like
people like, you know, like this this
was a very disgusting
thing. But Saber Spark didn't have
direct act like wasn't in their
relationship, right? Again, I think he
should have known better. I think he
should have just said, "I'm [\h__\h]
wiping my hands of it." But that's
neither here nor
there. Now, all of this preamble
because the video that we're going to
watch
today is very weird and very
interesting.
The
video
attaches a lot of other people's
allegations to lend credibility to
Sabers Spark's
allegations. I am not going to read this
uh right
here
because this is going to be gone over in
the video. But what I am going to say is
there's going to be a lot of information
thrown at us. We're going to try to get
through it as much as possible. Again,
this video only this stream only
pertains to I love Kim Possible a lot.
This is not going to pertain to DA
Games. That will be its own separate
stream and not to Black Griffin. Uh can
I get a link to the video that to share
uh to our stream or to this
video? Because if you want the video,
did I include it
uh in the description? I'll add it to
the description right now. Give me 20
seconds, chat. Uh did I share the dark
place and all the people have access to
it yet? It's it's public. Dark place is
public. People Dark Place has been
grabbing things.
It's hard to find it on your own when
you're searching for it. I The content
reacted to is in the description,
chat. I always put things in the
description.
Um, oh, Falga found the famous dark
place. You [\h__\h] But I will say this,
and this is something that I have to
give out a
a shout out to my favorite person in the
world, Mr.
Gamer, because Mr. Gamer uh a couple
couple days ago was like, "Hey, I'd love
for you to go over this out this video."
and it was about um it actually happens
to be right here, but this is the second
part, but we'll get
there.
Um I saw the video about the Buffalo
School uh potentially hiding or or under
reporting sexual assaults andor and
kidnappings and other things in their
public schools. And something very
interesting that happened when the
individual by the name of Angry Cops, he
is like a a Buffalo SVU detective, but
he also is a
YouTuber. He was starting to get
maligned in the media until everyone was
like, "Hey, maybe you should look at the
schools and not
necessarily the guy who's telling you
the schools are doing things." And now
the media has changed. All to say that
sometimes when
you push a narrative, it matters just as
much who is pushing it and how you push
it because I will tell you this right
now. Uh I understand I've spoken with
people behind the scenes. I know about
KP's uh relation to Chris and DA Games
specifically that was not fully
disclosed in this video that we will be
going over as well as her relations uh
her relation to Lily
Orchard. If you don't know, I love
Composible a lot, KP, however we're
going to refer to her.
Um
this they had a friendship a
longstanding friendship with a Lily
Orchard until the continued allegations
uh surrounding Lily Orchard's
improprieties as well as you know their
assault on their sister Courtney who
happens to be friends with KP
um came
out. It
is interesting. I I will say that it's
an interesting part of the lore. I do
reserve the right to say, "Hey,
sometimes people leave friends who do
bad things when they don't always
know." But sometimes you don't throw
stones in a glass
house. So chat, we're going to get into
everything. I
also conveniently, thank you to a friend
of the
channel, have a downloaded version of
the chat logs that was going on during
this premiere.
Bro, the the last hour of the premiere
was [\h__\h] wild. It was like, can I
like tease it a little bit
or or no?
Yes, chat.
Christian Chandler aka Chris Chan was in
the chat. Now, here's my hot take on
that. I don't
care. I don't care that they've been
tweeting at Chris Chan on the internet.
I swear to God, I I
listen. The Chris has served her time
and she is now allegedly a ward of the
state.
the the government has chosen that Chris
Chan is not mentally competent enough to
be on their own anymore. And you can
feel anything you feel about the fact
that Chris Chan uh uh um most likely had
sex with their mother with bar. I 100%
agree with you that it's a giant [\h__\h]
ick. But like that is the whole like my
whole thing is that what Chris Chan
really needs is to just be off the
internet. The government needs to just
steal the internet away from her. It's
the safest thing for
her. Chris, we we've done Chris Chan on
the channel. Her life is in my opinion
very sad. Um and it like hurts me a lot
going over her. Um I know that that's
going to be a thing that people are
going to bring up. It's not the main
focus of this. I will just say that
Chris Chan was
there. Yes, like the stream chat.
There's only the fighting that happened
in the chat, but okay. We have the
fighting in the chat. I was That was a
teaser. Ash, there was
teasers. Fig is going to have Chris as a
featured guest.
I don't know. I would have to read out
to [\h__\h] Goonar from Mars to get that
again. You can't do that without Cat. I
can't do it without cat and I I feel
like I would need the Gooners from Mars
approval for that one. Um, but yes, we
have a copy of the chat as
well and it's [\h__\h]
spicy cuz fighting happens in there. But
more importantly, I think what we should
do is not even start this video yet, but
let's check on I love Kim Possible a lot
because
KP KP has been teasing this video for a
while.
So, I have a series of tweets dated even
as far back as last year. Remember when
I said that this video has been in the
works? Remember there were months of
research said in this video? Well, we'll
get
there. So, on November 12th, 2024, KP
says, "Imagine taking sexual harassment
so seriously that the first thing you do
is try to make a victim sign an
NDA. [\h__\h] Absolutely [\h__\h] [\h__\h] DA
Games." and Sabers Spark apparently for
keeping Chris hired it's a poor look
video coming soon.
So,
originally the video was only about DA
Games, but specifically this individual
Chris that we will get there throughout
the video and explain their place in
it because there's a lot that kind of
goes into it.
So, let's read the
email uh from blank. Hello. Thank you
for your patience in this matter. While
we understand that you are personally
serving as the primary point of contact
for this case, we believe it's important
that Rachel is given direct
communication as we proceed. Therefore,
we will continue to CC Rachel and
communications on this matter. The
choice of whether to read these
communications is at her discretion.
As a company, it is important that we
are certain that all necessary
information is re is reaching all
relevant parties. Should Rachel give a
signed statement that she does not wish
that does not wish to have continued
communication during our investigation,
we would accept and honor that.
Now, the reason to this will be made
apparent in the video at hand, but it's
important to talk about that this video
has been teased over a period of
time since November. And I find that to
be very interesting
because I have to kind of step out for a
second and I'll have Greg read the email
for me, but because the Saber Spark
allegations were tacked on
last
minute and KP confirms that. Greg, take
it away. Uh, okay.
I don't know if he started this or not.
So, I'll just read it. You want me to
read it or you want you want him to read
it? You want you to read it if you want
you you can read it. Okay. Hold on. Let
me make this bigger.
Thank you for your patience in this
matter. While we understand that you are
personally serving as a primary point of
contact for this case, we believe it is
important that Rachel is given direct
communication as we proceed. Therefore,
we will continue. Second paragraph.
second paragraph. You know, you know,
you could have It's fine. It's fine. I
would just I would just keep going. I I
would just I was through the whole
thing. [\h__\h] you. You didn't tell them
what paragraph to start to let him read.
Were you all not paying attention to the
stream? Are we not paying attention to
the stream? You know what? Just start
start over. Start at at the time. 12:28
p.m. No, just just just right here.
Right here. We are currently
I
I thank you teacher. I appreciate that.
Oh, we are currently creating an
investigation report into this matter
which after reviewing all the evidence
we will decide on which discrep
disciplinary action we will be taken
going forward. We are more than happy to
share this report with Rachel with the
express understanding that the contents
of the report are kept strictly
confidential basis. This is in
accordance with ACAS guidelines and the
general data protection regulation. The
investigation report will be given upon
signing of a document confirming Rachel
understands and the consequences of
breaking this confidentiality agreement.
We als we also would wish to clear up a
point of confusion that has arisen with
these communications. has been raised
has been a raised point by both Rachel
and yourself that the YouTube Sabers
Saber Spark has removed Chris from his
employment. During our investigation
into the case, we have communicated
directly with Saber Spark who has
confirmed that this information is
false. Chris has not been terminated
from his employment. Saber Spark has
given consent for this information to be
given. uh DA online has its own company
policy and procedure and shall be
following this with regards to this
case. Therefore, we will not be
considering the actions of external
employees during this investigation and
discipline disciplinary process.
Finally, with regards to communication,
we believe we have enough evidence to
conduct a thorough and fair
investigation as per the previously
mentioned recorded call. Should Rachel
wish to give further information, we
would be willing to accept with a
written statement under GP GDPR
guidelines. We will be not we will not
be consenting to recorded verbal
interviews at this time regards DA
online HR rep. Thank you. Gamer, you
could send me that. I believe it's who I
think it is, but Gamer, you can send me
that. So, it's very important to note
and I want to make this very clear. This
is not about sexual assault.
KP's grudges with Chris. I'll be very
clear. I don't like Chris. I think Chris
is a [\h__\h] freak. But we'll get there
because it's in the video.
But this Can I get a a
small a smaller primer? I feel like you
threw more names at me than the
Sylmerelion, and I don't know where I
am. What if I told you the entire video
does just what I did without explaining
half of the [\h__\h] I'm telling you right
now? Okay.
Chris is a former animator that used to
work with KP.
Who is KP? Kim Possible. Kim Possible.
Possible. Well, you literally call KP.
No [\h__\h] Like, who is she? A YouTuber?
She is a YouTuber. She's a brony
YouTuber and animator. It's a whole big
thing. just you can't just drop me in
here. I I need to know what's going on.
I dropped you real hot and fast. But
yes, uh KP is a uh is an animation
commentary YouTube. Like they do
animation commentary. I don't know what
the [\h__\h] they call this anymore. And
like that's one of those things cartoon
reviews stuff like that. Yeah, it's
Saber Spark. They're Saber Spark Jason.
You ever seen Saber Spark Spark's
channel? This is KP. Who is Saber Spark?
Saber Spark is a guy that does animation
content and reviews on various
animations and their history or the
drama surrounding their history or he's
one of the mo he's one of the largest he
holds currently
2.23 million subscribers. He is one of
the biggest animation related channel
content. Uh I would call him animation
commentary
and review. Not AC 21.
Maybe maybe slightly ACC related, but
I'm not going to say ACC cuz ACC uses I
will say I No, I meant like a like a
like a subgenre like animation. It could
be you could have overlap between
animation art is all I'm saying. Yeah.
And and it's something really
interesting to note that this is
uh I I will not call the allegations
against Saber Spark fake. What I will
say is that a lot of information does
need to be
um yeah this is the one I I have. Would
you call it unsubstantiated?
Unsubstantiated is one. Um thank you Mr.
Gamer. Those are the ones I do have but
thank you. Um unsubstantiated is one of
them. Another thing I would say is
that KP [\h__\h] killed the story dead in
the water for a lot of
reasons. Just they just killed the story
because it's tacked on to all of this
that chat. If you haven't been following
KP for years, you don't know anything
about this because she won't explain
this
either. Now you see this. Okay, Chris,
[\h__\h] Saber Spark 2, I guess.
Does Saber Spark know about the
allegations? No. And as Killjoy points
it out very importantly, this Sabers
Spark is large enough to be uh under
Moist Critical's uh partner uh uh agency
thing. Like that's like a big thing to
know too that this is a large enough
guy. Afficionado Chris is an editor is
an editor for DA Games Saber Spark. He
used to work for KP in 2015 2016ish. He
made up a
sexual he made up a sexualized story
about my clothing at convention around
that time. The story got back to me last
year.
A decade later. A decade later. Now
again, we will get into Chris's Goonar
story. I will be very
real. It's not great. I'm not defending
the guy. It's [\h__\h]
disgusting. But there are leaps of logic
that we are going to go down a path of
uh I have I literally have so many more
tweets
chat.
Uh pink pony. Oh, I'm gonna get that
pink pony
club. How do you not know that
course? Uh
I don't know. I don't know. So, chat.
Okay. I actually I sent some things to
actually I could go into my DMs because
I sent stuff to of all people Chudlo
Logic cuz he was covering it one
day. We made a watch party Discord event
tomorrow. Now, you see this April
30th. Huh?
Why would you make a watch party Discord
event for what?
Weird. I wonder. Huh? Chat, what do you
think? Wait, you don't need to think.
I'll show you. Never think, chat. Never
think again. We will tell you everything
you need to know. We will be having a
watch party on the video event. Info
here in the Discord. Remember 10 10:00
a.m. new victim testimony drops. 12:00
p.m. EST
video. She is hosting a Discord party
event for sexual assault allegations,
grooming, zuilia, and pedophilia. You
are
r. Now again, I understand that this is
the first time KP has ever done this
from trusted sources, and apparently
she's feeling real [\h__\h] about it. This
might be the first time anyone's ever
done this.
[Music]
Mhm. Uh that's not that's not entirely
true.
Uh I I mean I mean you do the Destiny
stuff and that was that was of a of a
nature. Some of the some of that stuff
was premiered. Um, premier is not a
watch party. Ah, that's true. Well, they
were in they were in the stream chat too
as well. Ah, you're right. You're right.
It's not the same thing. Yeah, but again
Oh. Oh, I would be remiss to not show
you this tweet as
well. Where are
we? Huh? Where? Oh, this. Time to kick
some pedo and rapist ass tomorrow. Now,
oh no, I said the thing. Cringe. Again,
hyping up your allegations against
someone. Some of which are
substantiated, some of which don't make
any sense. Uh, and things like that.
God, I'm getting like Okay, it's weird.
I'm getting like Dimma Mama vibes from
this. Uh, I was just No, no, no.
Remember when Diam was hyping up her
Xanderhal video as a nuke? This is the
getting I wasn't around at that time.
You weren't around that time. Yeah, but
I could say that H3 was doing that with
Assan. That was a thing. Yeah, it also
reminds me of Ethan and Assan their
videos how they were hyping it up. It
very much reminds me of the DMA Xander
Hall nuke. Yeah, I will and and I'll say
this.
Um, yes, I I do know that Lio, okay, I
would just say it anyways. I asked Lio a
little bit questions about this because
I know that he has a personal rel like
he has a friendship of some kind or a
familiarity with
KP. I I'm not going to throw him under
the bus on this one because he's just a
liaison to what I understand. Um, I
don't I ain't gonna he's not involved in
any way with the creation of this video
because I see it in chat. I want to make
it very clear from my understanding Lio
is not involved in the creation of this
video. That's all I that's what I know
to be true. Um unless proven otherwise
was not involved.
Um but more importantly, you see all
this because and it's important to
note KP tried to involve a lot of people
in the creation of this video. You're
going to see some famous names in this
video.
It's very interesting. You're going to
see some crazy commentary people.
Commentary people is relative or every
any people in this
video. You're going to see cameos from
people that you would never think would
be in this
video. But let's kind of move forward
with that. I have some other tweets that
she put out that I think kind of paint
the picture of what she felt like this
video was for
her. See if I
have this one right
here. Eh, that one's not really worth it
at this point. So, these are just like
we're just going to start with these
because I think that these are the most
important ones in my personal opinion.
Um, we'll kind of go from there. Now,
chat.
Oh, you know, wait, that's right. I
forgot about this
tweet. Oh
god. Oh, KP. Oh no.
Oh, this this is a this is a spicy
meatball of a tweet.
I'm just going to let this tweet speak
for itself. Do you think that this is
someone who's going to treat allegations
of grooming, pedophilia, and lots of
other things very
well? Who we
This is a yikes. This is This is a big
yikes. Well, I think without further
ado, we should finally sweaty. This is
sweaty. Without further ado, I think
it's time to get this [\h__\h] UR. Uh, we
will Yeah, I already pulled this up, so
we don't need to get back into that that
that that again. You've seen her hyping
up. She's hyping it up, chat. So, I
think without further
ado, let's get
hyped. Let's get hyped for the video,
chat. Chat, are you ready?
Oh god. Remember to like the stream and
donate so we could feed that dog that's
somewhere in the
house. Oh, she's right
there. This video is not suitable for
all ages and should only be viewed by
viewers 18 or older due to the nature of
the content discussed and the discussion
of sexual predators on the internet.
Trigger warnings for the following:
pedophilia, lollycon, and child
So I want to point out pedophilia,
lolliccon, suicide, grooming,
anti-semitism, sexual harassment,
objectification, beastiality, and
zuhilia,
rape, all of these things. You saw the
tweets. She she reviews cartoons. Yes.
Yeah. Apparently,
you know, for kids. For kids chat, for
child audience.
Well, I I won't go that far. Actually,
no, that's not true. They do make a
thing. Now, if I remember correctly,
speaking of the
disclaimer, Kayla says has pinned a
comment. We have a pinned comment from
Kayla Says that we will get to later,
chat. Yes, the VA in the comments said
yes. So, let's talk about
that. They didn't know what the [\h__\h]
they were reading. Everybody got little
bits and pieces of this. Nobody really
knew from what I could
tell, but we'll get there.
Pornography, suicide, grooming,
anti-semitism, and Nazi imagery, sexual
harassment, and sexual objectification,
visiality, and rape. Please do not
harass anyone. So, who made this person
break these allegations? Or did they
decide it themselves? Funny you should
say
that. So in my brief conversation with
Brony Fan don't the individual who is
alleging that Saber Spark raped her well
yeah no raped her twice twice at two
different
events. Ax of the five. I mean given the
game she played on her channel once upon
a time those trigger warnings aren't
outside her usual wheelhouse. Mhm.
So, what I want to tell tell you is in
speaking with Brony Fando, it seems like
the Google doc that they made about
Black
Griffin led the individual, the unnamed
accuser go to Brony Fandote, who
directly led them to
KP because KP had been hyping up a video
behind the scenes and publicly.
about DA Games Chris afficionado Chris
as well as Saber Spark and it was tacked
on at the last minute within the last
month if not
sooner. How do I know that? Because it
said in the premiere chat which we have
an HTML version of named in this video.
Hello viewers, welcome to another
segment of Maybe the internet was a big
[\h__\h] mistake. Big mistake. Big huge.
On a more serious note, this video
covers sexual gratification as well as
general sexual harassment and it's a
very depressing story. If you're a kid
who somehow got past the age
restriction, please go away now. Just
go. Now, I don't like covering these
stories. We're an animation channel. We
cover very important stuff like Disney
and not Disney. Okay. Okay. You're an
animation. We're setting up the We're
setting up the groundwork. Chat
animation channel. setting up the
groundwork things sometimes, but I like
to think of myself with the John Stewart
of the YouTube.
Already we are not even 2 minutes in and
you're calling yourself the John Stewart
of the animation in uh YouTube thing.
Don't do that to me, Mr. Gamer. Don't do
that to me, please.
[Laughter]
What are you doing?
Where are we?
Oh, wow.
Where? How did we get here?
Where do we go from here? The bar is in
hell and it only gets lower. It's going
to be one of those.
There. Yes, there is a rework of this
video. I'm not going to lie. I don't
know if it's going to come
out. I hope it comes out. Yes, there's
going to be a rework of this video.
Allegedly, she did remove it uh because
there was a lot of backlash specifically
from people who had been assaulted in
her community and being like,
"Hey, I'm a victim of assault. This is
kind of [\h__\h]
up." Who's the Jesse Soul of the
animation community?
Birdie. 100%. It's Birdie. Birdie is the
Jesse S of the animation community.
Animation community. I call things out
when I feel like I can add something to
the conversation. And it's important to
talk about when YouTubers are misusing
their platform. So, what's the no fun
situation? Because I hate it here. I
don't want to be alive anymore. I've
chosen not to keep this person anonymous
because I believe this is not a mistake
or a slip of the tongue. This is an
active attempt of slander and misogyny,
and that's just not acceptable. Also,
this incident wasn't freely admitted to
me. I had to have someone else tell me
that this was going on in a professional
setting. He couldn't even tell me
himself. Chris was a team member roughly
from 2014 to 2015.
chat, remember that Chris used to work
for KP. It'll be important later in the
stream. I know I'm old. Chris was
generally a nice guy in my time knowing
him, but he exhibited weird behavior
like you just draw this for your boss,
right? If memory serves, there's also a
nude version.
So, in looking for the nude version of
that clip of that specific
art, we can't find it. And if memory
serves
me, there's a fan drawing that may
potentially be a nude version, but it's
not attributed to
Chris. And I will say that KP doesn't
have it either. And I'll tell you
why. Because KP will show you much worse
than a new ver a nude version of a pony
sitting on a [\h__\h] toilet.
Did we make sure to get the time stamps
of that stuff so we can skip past it?
Nope. I thought about that. No, we
didn't. Well, we didn't. Well, good
luck, chat. We believe in you. Viewer
discretion is advised. Go [\h__\h]
yourselves. Me, too. It's going to get
demonetized. Make sure to like the
stream. Oh, yeah. Guys, uh, this stream
is going to get demonetized because of
this person. So, remember, like and
subscribe, donate, tip, do the things, I
don't [\h__\h] know. Become a member
today. It's going to get rough. That's
disgusting. Also, my first trip to
Everree Northwest, the one we did the
vlog about. He's this guy here. The
story is as follows. I'm not going to
read it myself because it's going to
make me sick. So, I'm just going to have
someone else read it at some point.
Hello, June the King. Everybody, it's
everyone's favorite YouTuber, June the
King. I thought this was a cutaway from
a different video. No, I No, he this
video, the nude version was he is a
commentary essaist. He's an essayist.
Thank you. Some really good uh essay
videos like he did some on uh [\h__\h]
Lily Orchard. Lily Orchard. Ah, hey Sai.
How you doing?
We're gonna get into a lot of stuff.
Sigh. Uh, the nude version was never
found. The version that was displayed
was made over 10 years ago.
Yeah, we went over that. That KP told no
one about it. Everybody Everyone was
doing small bits and pieces of of the
voice work. They didn't know what it was
all coming together to be. Also,
question like she said she he worked for
her. That drawing could have literally
been done for a thumbnail or a video gag
because she does really shitty gags.
Yeah. Like I've I've drawn like weird
ass [\h__\h] for this channel like Yeah.
You're a pony. Yeah. You drew me You
drew me with them boy link which Thank
you. Thank you. Yeah. And I drew you
pregnant. You have drawn me pregnant. I
drew him pregnant. First of many uh
friend of the channel quite put up a
video about drawing people pregnant. He
put up a recent video about it. I'm
like, "Oh, I need to check this out."
Over the last few years, Chris told his
story allegedly several times that in
the bathroom of the hotel where the
group was staying, he was masturbating
to KP's clothing. Chris states that this
is a lie, as he was actually constipated
during the trip, and there were no
witnesses to his masturbation story in
or near the hotel room. No one saw me do
it, so you can't prove it.
So, what it seems like to me is Chris
made a disgusting story. I do need to
make this very clear. It's a disgusting
story. There is no The story is
indefensible. That he was pleasuring
himself on the
John and that her clothing was in the
vicinity of the goon in
session. Is Chris Saberspark? No. No.
No. It's almost doesn't come in for a
while. Like 90% of this video is other
people. 90% of the video is other
people. Very important to note that.
There's a reason why it's important
because if you remember the video is
called what ruined Saber Spark and DA
Games, not how Chris afficionado Chris
ruined me. And I have a personal grudge
with him because he's a disgusting
pervert. Not DA games are filled with
potentially
predators. It's what ruined Saber Spark
and DA Games. To be fair, I I think the
other title wouldn't work in the SEO.
Hey, listen. And if I can get if I can
get away with Mama Max's back and he
wants to show you his Leviathan. That
was really good. I really like that one.
Listen, it was a good one. I'm I Chad,
I'll tell you this. Clickbait is like my
passion. There is nothing better than
making like a shitty title that makes no
sense. It's one of my favorite things.
But continuing, we don't know the
details about who the story was. Hey
Sigh, thank you for the fine. Thank you.
Thank you S. This whole thing is a mess
and I'm rolling around in the Shard and
Freder like a pig in mud. Very base.
Very based. S of the channel. Thank you
so much. Uh Ace, I think we all won.
Told too. Besides the whistleblower who
will remain anonymous, but it was likely
Will Ryan, head of the YouTube channel
DA Games as Chris and Will are friends
as well as friends. Okay, hold up, hold
up, hold up. I want to just highlight
this for a second.
Yes, you did vote for One Trick Brony
for the title. Yes, witnesses to his
masturbation story in or near the hotel
room. We don't know the details about
who the story was told to besides the
whistleblower who will remain anonymous,
but it was likely Will Ryan, head of the
YouTube channel DA Games, as Chris and
Will are friends, as well as friends
andor employees of that YouTube channel.
So, they have people I've never seen
before. These are names I've never heard
of. Oh, you'll never I've never heard of
them ever.
So, you have no proof that Will, who
will come back in later in the
video, you have no proof that Will was
the person who either knew or even was
the
whistleblower, but you are making an
assumption about that. You are adding
Listen, I don't know June the King. Uh,
probably seems like a nice guy. I'd love
to meet him. I think I really like his
videos. You are lending your credibility
to what?
probably a [\h__\h] probably about a like
a story like this is like this is
workplace like like uh uh um malpractice
like this is sexual assault in the work
like sexual assault this is sexual
harassment in the
workplace you don't just put a maybe to
something you don't
Chris also started working for DA so
Chris started working for DA games again
remember Chris is the reason Why DA
Games, I guess, was ruined. It's almost
like the vendetta against DA
Games. I mean, sorry, the vendetta
against afficionado Chris is what ruined
Saber Spark and DA Games. Very
interesting, chat. We'll get
there. Uh, I've never heard of the DA
Games uh allegations, lady. We will get
into them. We will also have a separate
stream for them. I'm going to tell you
right now, they're not great.
a games shortly after leaving the I love
compossible and law production team. So
the timelines track. Once KP was
informed that this incident took place,
she confronted him. So uh hope is okay.
No, I'm not 100% okay. Oh dear. Text and
uh this is just uh things discussing
um her finding out and the fact that
they are going to start talking about
it. But again, we don't know who the
whistleblower is for the story. nor do
we understand if
Will from DA Games was ever involved in
the story being told. Nobody has proof
of that. And an audio confession uh
about the trip to
Everfree, how you quote masturbated in
the bathroom, quote, tripped on the
toilet and quote fell on my panties and
ejaculated. I am beyond disappointed and
frankly incredibly disgusted. How the
[\h__\h] the audio is that okay to tell
people in any way? I could tolerate a
lot, Chris. I could tolerate you
bragging about working for me. I could
tolerate the KP sitting on the toilet
or so the art was for
KP. Yes. As Killjoy continually is it
puts in the chat, I do want to make this
very clear. I am not in defense of any
of these [\h__\h] What I am highlighting
is that this was very bad
reporting because
hey, why was Chris fired or let go or
left? Could it be that KP herself has
been battling allegations for years
about being a really bad boss?
be crazy if she's been battling those
allegations for years. Something she
doesn't
[Music]
disclose. All right. Well, first I think
it's the obvious thing is one just want
to profusely apologize for that terrible
[\h__\h] thing I did and that
got was an absolute horrible person. We
will be going over KP
leaks. There is a story there. It ties
to this. Again, like I said, this is a
hit piece years in the making
so many years ago and you didn't deserve
that. So, right. Um, so I have a couple
of things. So, my source says, um, you
told this story in front of Will and
Sean, a couple other people. Is that
correct? Uh, that would probably be
correct. Yeah. So Will has heard the
story probably in passing a couple of
times, correct?
Yeah, probably once. Okay. Um, same with
Sean. Yes, Sean. Okay. Did you talk to
Sean? Um, so this is a call recorded
between KP and afficionado
Chris. I can't remember if
in 2023 about um an
Everfree conversation he had in 2015.
Yep. or the story's gone around here and
there as as a quote locker room
joke. You'll Greg, you will see the
comparison later privately about
anything else that happened when you
were working on the team that I don't
know about.
Not that I can remember. Okay. Nothing I
say is Also, it's important to note that
this conversation is allegedly being
recorded and Chris doesn't know that.
Oh,
it's at 2023 at some point. You gota you
got to realize that though. Yeah. Yeah.
Fair. But yeah, but if you live in a one
party consent state, it gets Yeah.
That's also the other thing. One party,
the two party, you got to be careful cuz
California is the one that you got to be
careful about. But I would personally I
would just be wary of getting
Yeah. Yeah. uh excuse what I did because
it's inexcusable what I did. Can you do
you want me to say what what what what
the story was just for context? I feel
like a few people could sue KP from
this. So, I've been told things behind
the scenes a little bit here and there
and done my own little
research. So if DA Games was
collaborating in some way, shape and
form
[Music]
um if DA Games is is collaborating
somehow in shape and form with
uh uh with KP in a way that lends itself
to this idea that they were looking into
it, they've investigated it and they'd
like to come forward with her to it. as
she kind of releases those internal
information and documents and there's
lawyers
involved. I don't know the legality.
Again, we are not lawyers, but it seems
like lawyers are already involved in
this.
Uh I mean, I guess it makes more sense
if I do because I don't think it's fair
for you to have to reiterate that
horrible thing. Sure. Go ahead. Uh yeah.
So the old um and I know she admit I I
know she admits to it and explains her
reasoning later. Again, it's cool.
tale goes is that I pleasured myself in
the hotel bathroom we were sharing
during one of our breaks when everyone
was gone and whatever and that I fell
off the john uh after uh basically
getting lightheaded from what would be
ejaculation falling on the floor where
your dirty clothes also happened to be
and that my face planted on your
underwear.
Right. part of my PD version. I have a
six-year-old in the other room. So,
he
is you okay?
I'm sorry. The fact that he had his kid
in the other room is is like peak. It's
like it's like how can it get worse? Oh,
my kid was in the other room.
This is not Chris. Oh, sorry. This is
Chris. This is not Saber Spark. I need
to make that very [\h__\h] clear when I
say this. This is a disgusting story to
say about your boss.
We need like a like a little graphic
says uh Saber Spark has not appeared in
the video yet. Yeah, we need a little
graphic. Saber Spark is not here yet.
But again, this is disgusting. What does
this have to do with Saber Spark,
though? That's That's insane. Oh, and
just to answer the uh the swampling, uh
just to answer your question a little
bit further, uh I personally we like
streaming. I like putting everything
together in order in a way that it
creates a cohesive stream and narrative.
That's just my personal thing. Uh if you
want to see edited versions, uh we do
that. Hey, Artemis. Fall off the toilet
for rubbing one out. Your hand can't be
that good. I listen listen. Vinegar
strokes for folks. I don't know what to
tell you. Oh god, dude. I don't know
what that means, but I'm appalled.
And again, HR.
I am the HR. No, it's not. I know. I
know. I know it was HR. Um, but again,
like this is a disgusting story to say
about your former boss
or your your current boss at the time.
Ace. What are you trying to do? He would
have been he would have been he would he
was still employee at his time at the
time. Yeah. He was he was still
employed. Yeah. not only just your boss
but like anybody that you know or that
these other people would also know or
anybody really like if you just said
this off-handedly about any person I
would that they wouldn't know like
that's bad that's bad enough but like
this person act are actively aware of
one another at least if not friendly on
friendly terms and that's kind of [\h__\h]
up and I want to make it very very clear
um I I yes I've heard this type of talk
from men and women actually yes believe
me I have oh god
But it doesn't excuse
it. From what I can tell from behind the
scenes, and we will be going over the KP
leaks that went on 4chan at one time,
cuz that's there's a whole big there's
allegations of uh her just being a
really shitty
boss. It's kind of wild and it's a
lot, but I if I have a shitty boss, I'm
gonna be upfront.
I have a shitty boss. I would just say I
would want to like ring their neck. I
wouldn't talk about [\h__\h] like all the
[\h__\h] that he's saying. He's saying that
he [\h__\h] came in her [\h__\h] p like he
fell off the toilet and mid ejaculation
he somehow [\h__\h] sniffed her panties
and it made him what? Go come harder.
Like what the [\h__\h] Like that that's an
insane
thing. She has had an insane contract
NDA for her free animators and free
editors. Yes. Oh my Oh, I Oh boy. Man,
that is what has come out. Do you think
Do you think this story is true that
that Chris went around telling people? I
don't know. Cuz it sounds so outlandish.
He's admitting to it over the top. He's
admitting He's admitting to having said
it, right? He's admitting to the joke. I
don't think this happened. He's
admitting specifically to the joke.
Nobody This is all This is He's the only
one that knows this
exists. He could have just never said
the [\h__\h] story.
Again, it's not
this conversation is not the problem.
It's this conversation is why Sabers
Spark is involved. Not really DA Games
because DA Games has its own
allegations, but this conversation is
the only reason Sabers Spark was ever
originally going to be mentioned in this
video.
Did he have any knowledge of this? If
he's had known knowledge of this [\h__\h]
story, what is he supposed to do? And
if, let's say, he finds out knowledge of
this story, because this conversation
happened in 2023, the email that KP got
is presumably last year in
2024. If Chris is going around, yeah, we
had a conversation. She's pissed, but I
profusely apologized.
They're able to believe that. Wait, I'm
also confused. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, he
was not fired for this joke, correct?
No, he would have left KP. She finds out
about this joke years later. Care that
he I will say this. She's allowed to
care about this. This This is a shitty
joke. Yeah. Okay. I get it. But like
it's beyond talking [\h__\h] about It's
beyond talking [\h__\h] about her. It's It's
like having a a sexualized story
involving her. And he's and he's
admitting to it. I think the thing that
I have an issue with is this is the
story why all of these creators should
experience life
ruination. Again, Vicinado Chris told a
disgusting story, making that very, very
clear.
But we've seen a lot of allegations and
a lot of people say a lot of disgusting
things and they could still exist.
Everyone has the capacity for change
because this story is almost a decade
old if not a decade old. I'm surprised
that he even like entertained having a
conversation with her cuz he doesn't
work for anyone. That's that Well,
that's what I was going to say too is we
don't know what their relationship is
post them working together either. They
could still be on friendly terms or or
friend terms up until her hearing. She
did she did have very strict NDAs. She
had her worker signed. So I don't know.
Well, there that's what I'm saying.
That's what that's what I'm saying. We
don't know any of that. So like her
reaching out to him, we don't know what
his thoughts are behind him getting in
this call in 2023, eight years after
telling the story. Yes, this story is a
this is a joke. There's no way to prove
this bathroom story is true. And it's
why I'm saying that the lack of
disclosure of
that is insane. How old was Chris at the
time? Everybody at this point is a
consenting adult. This story, they're
consenting adults. I
don't unless proven that either of these
two were minors, which I don't believe
so because they had she had a company at
the time and he was working for her.
These are adults. So, think 20s if
they're now in their
30s. Very important to note that age
will come into play later, but we'll get
there. Again, it's
it's I we talked about this a long time
ago. If you remember our Destiny
coverage stuff, I thought again, I hate
bringing up his name, President Sunday,
you know, whatever.
Whatever. The reason I had a very big
problem with Sunday's video is when you
are doing an expose on someone you have
a history with, you need to expressly
outline the timeline of you two because
if anybody can find you publicly trying
to do things behind the scenes or
whatever or hyping up emails or other uh
um other uh employees coming out of the
woodwork and saying things
unsubstantiated or
not. There's you are supposed to know
decades of history to get into this
video. Decades of history or you're
expected to know. Yeah, you're expected
to know. Yeah, but how are you supposed
to know that when Saber Spark is the
most important person in this video?
He's in the title. He's in the [\h__\h]
title. He's the largest creator of this
video. in this video. So, let's start
with Chris. Exactly.
Okay. I wasn't aware of that, but thanks
for being honest. Chris and his audio
testimony assured his other boss,
YouTuber Sabers Spark, wasn't told this
story, but it's unclear how truthful
Chris is being when he says that.
I would Okay, if I was June, I would
have never put I would have never
co-signed saying that. Yeah, that's
that's saying that's remember last night
we were talking about Oh my god, I'm not
last night. nights ago. I'm really t I'm
still exhausted. I'm trying to remember
what it was that we were saying, but
there was a point
where I had made a point that uh
YouTubers would just believe other
YouTubers or would just kind of sign off
on that from the Mama Mac stuff. Like
they would just kind of go along with it
because, you know, they they already
have like good reputation in their
books. Why would they need to like Yeah.
They would they wouldn't have like the
red flag to question the things that are
being sent to them to read or or or to
record type of thing. I could see that
happening here. Like you already have a
good rapport with KP and they're asking
you to voice this thing, but at some
point you got to question what it is
you're reading. Yeah. And and you can't
Yes. Ron Burgundy and Anchor Man, right?
And KP wrote things for these people.
This wasn't just like anything else, but
like like KP wrote this for people in
some regards. Some other regards are
YouTube videos that she pulled from.
We'll get there because I know I know
Sai has it. Uh, yeah, she wrote it for
sure, but like you're still reading it.
When you're reading it, you're not just
you gotta read it. If someone ever asked
me to be featured in their video, all I
would all I ever ask, this is the one
thing I will say. If you're a content
creator, uh, and you were like, "Hey,
Fergie, I want you to to cover something
in a video, uh, that I'm working on."
All I ever ask is you show me the proof
of what the [\h__\h] I'm referencing. If you
can't show me the proof and verifiably
where the [\h__\h] you found it, I'm not
reading in your your your video if it's
specifically about drama
content because that like that this is a
level of I you need this. You can't just
go out and do this. We have a lot of
ground to cover. So, let's keep going.
Chris also tries to steer the
conversation to not include too much
explicitly, stating that quote, "There
is a baby in the other room." But that
also might have been a ploy to lessen
the harshness of the anger. What? That
doesn't Oh, it's it's a
ploy. You don't know
this. This is what we call poisoning the
well, chat. Present. Regardless, since
Chris says he was lying about the whole
incident, it's difficult to take his
word on anything due to this lie and the
actions he took regarding it. So, once I
was informed of this information, but if
he said he was uh uh Fali, can you read
my Becket X Diesel X Fal Yahi fanfic?
Axis, send it over and I will and I will
court it for you. No. Yeah,
you do know you know people will toxic
Yahi. You know people will make art for
it. You know people will make art for
it. It says Yahi doesn't say toxic Yahi.
You know that be toxic. You know I don't
know anything. I've never read it. I
that kind of Yahi. I trust Axis. All
right. Let's get back to it. And got
Chris admitting to it. I sent that proof
to Sabers Spark through mutual friends
and to DA Games. After reaching out
twice and waiting months for any private
messages, I eventually received someone.
So this is the email that we read. Yeah.
Mhm. Just want to make I don't different
editing or different sensoring. I don't
know why it seems unnecessary. The
sameens and their totally real HR
department that totally exists even
though I couldn't find any proof of it
online.
That is a company email. They're getting
lawyers involved.
Uh at at the OP block. So far, um, VAS
who took this job are upset because they
were not told about the tone of the
expose because of the jokes and the fact
that a victim would be coming forward in
this. Yeah, that's the other thing,
too. Yes, this video is 80% of KP being
a Karen. You're absolutely correct.
Yeah, that's part of the problem. What's
with this?
They they have an HR. Where are they? I
don't know. Here's Sunny Tehe meme. Just
because you don't have an HR doesn't
mean that somebody else doesn't. Yeah,
she definitely doesn't have an
HR cuz I couldn't find it. I couldn't
find KP having an HR. So, yeah,
that's totally not run by Will's
roommate who's financially dependent on
him. Any HR department would be a
financially dependent on Okay, so fun
fact, don't try to say HR.
They work for the company. They work for
the company. Their job is to protect the
company. Oh, we literally said this in
the [\h__\h] Mr. Beast [\h__\h] As much as I
don't like Dog Pack. Don't trust company
HR. They [\h__\h] you at every turn.
And for the record, I assume Chris knew
he was being recorded because it was a
call about safety. It only gets worse
for that is not an excuse.
Hold. That is a terrible reason or like
reasoning to have. Hold yourself to the
standard that you recorded it on [\h__\h]
purpose. Just hold yourself to the
standard. It's cra like just do it. If
you do it, I'm not going to [\h__\h]
fight you on it. Why would you not hold
yourself to the standard where you just
say,
"Hey, I'm recording it and I did it
without his knowledge. [\h__\h]
him. Who cares? I think it's still a
disgusting story."
I'm here.
Oh no. Witty te more memes. Oh, Jon.
Jontron. Oh, let's go. Skull Fernology,
everybody.
audio the audio audio balancing that for
that was [\h__\h] awful. Oh, the audio
balancing gets [\h__\h] But wait, there's
more, chat. Oh, Greg, I never told you
this. About John Trron. No. What if I
told you this video and Mama Max's video
have way more in common than you realize
because of the amount of cuts? Over two
hours. No, the amount of cutaways. How
many cutaways were in Mama Max?
the TED talks, the the multiple of just
cutting away to his whole video raw.
Let's bring a political comparison. For
those who forgot or are not American,
good for you. The 2016 leak of the
Hollywood Access tape was a big deal. In
a bus, we have an orange man who shall
not be named. Guys, let's talk about
Hollywood. Where are we going? What? Why
are we talking about Trump? What is
happening? It's not about Trump. It's
about Billy Bush. Let's go.
Have you guys ever wanted to talk about
grabbing by the [\h__\h] Yeah, apparently
KP does. When did this become political?
What does this have to do with Sabers?
Political. What does this have to do
with cartoons? What does this have to do
with your cartoon review channel? Oh
god. And Billy Bush, a member of the
Bush family. He is a cousin of President
George W. Bush or as my Gen Z audience
would know, the shoe guy. Who throws a
shoe? Honestly, orange man was talking
about women in an appropriate way.
Google Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Why
are we censoring Trump's face? I don't
Why are we censoring Trump's face? And
Embry, you make up a really good point.
This is something Lily does in her
videos. Be really weird if they were
best friends until it was inconvenient
for KP. Now, I'll be very real. I will
say this openly and
honestly. I don't blame KP if she did
not know about Lily's disgusting
abhorrent behavior. But if you get the
grace of that, then you need to give the
grace to Saber Spark about
that. You have to You can't choose how
you feel about something and how you get
away from something and then move on.
People wonder about Lily for years. I've
also seen evidence of that.
It's like it's like don't th don't throw
rocks at glass houses. You live in a
literal glass house. Can I can I get a
TLDDR and Lily Orchard? I don't know who
that is. Uh sexual improprieties with
their sister. Uh blackmailed friends uh
to force them to watch her get undressed
or was it for blackmail people to get
undressed in front of her? Yeah, I don't
know much about Lily Orchard. I honestly
I watched like Z watch a little bit of
the June the King. I was about to say
it'd be crazy if June the King has a
video. I can't watch it. I was about to
say it'd be crazy if June the King had a
video on Lily Orchard. No, that's crazy
that he like did a video with KP after
like he did his video on Lily Orchard
cuz he should know like the
relationship.
Oh boy.
Made me a [\h__\h] headache. You know,
I'm automatically attracted to
beautiful. I just start kissing them.
It's like a magnet. Now, even though
this was in 2005 and leaked in 2016, and
even though Billy Bush was now working
for the Today Show and not Hollywood
Access, where the tape was obtained,
Bush was still fired on moral grounds,
not what? What are we What are we
talking about? This is 10 years ago.
This is 10 plus years ago. Why you Or
maybe it's just 10 years ago. Does
anyone Okay, I I want to I No, I want to
make something very clear. Billy Bush
was only fired on moral grounds on paper
and then he got hired somewhere else. He
did get hired somewhere else. But I I
want to like highlight this for a
second. That is not what happened. If
you read between the lines, they put a
lot of things in your contract for
clauses so they can fire you for
anything and you can't sue for wrongful
termination. That's every literally
every job I've ever had and will ever
have. That's That's why the contract is
so [\h__\h]
expansive. Billy Bush was fired because
it was a bad publicity when that came
out. Today was like, "We're not dealing
with this [\h__\h] You're
gone." Probably had a [\h__\h] severance
package, too, in some way, shape, and
form cuz he's a bush. Who knows? Yeah.
Yeah. Hey, he's a bush. Yeah. like he's
political royalty.
Again, this is the other was this is why
are you addressing this? We don't care
about Billy Bush. Because it's important
because this is the standard that she's
setting up cuz KP cares for some reason
about that. Can't wait to see your
reaction to that bit long. Hint, it's
related to Seinfeld. Yeah, I know about
I heard there's a Seinfeld bit, but I I
don't know what I'm I'm waiting to hear
the Seinfeld twang. But here we go,
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And we have fed that
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doggo. What we're going to do here?
She's like, "Yes, father. Give me
payment." Yes, I know. But that also
means we
raise the number, but it goes to a
different thing. We're going to feed
that Aqua Tribes, too. If you want to
derail the
stream, you know what to do,
chat. What me? post the stream derail.
No, no, no, no. If you want to if you
they want to derail the stream, feed the
dog. Okay. God, the [\h__\h] slop father.
I see that my jungle. We'll pull that up
later cuz there's a
lot. Can I pet that dog? Good girl.
She's a good girl. Contract obligations.
It seems like keeping him on staff would
be a bad look for the Today Show despite
this happening over 10 years ago.
Imagine that. So, I find this before his
contract excuse to be weak at best. The
ironic thing is Bush was mostly going
along with what was said. Chris actually
did more than Bush did and suffered less
consequences. As well, if Chris told the
story multiple times, I would assume one
of those times was after his contract
was signed. But don't worry, Chris can
still run for president.
[Music]
So, can you What is the joke? What? I
can run for president. Making making a
Bush uh president claim. I'm like,
"Yeah, Jeb tried twice and failed." Is
Is this a Poké for running again and
succeeding after this? I don't I don't
understand what Okay, I'm just going to
chalk this up to to bad political joke.
Please clap. Please clap, chat. The joke
is Trump.
The joke is she's a liberal. The joke is
she's liberal.
Oh, we were very progressive at the on
this on this uh on this pand but as a
progressive I can make fun of other
progressives. Yeah. And
again, if they investigated it and they
found that Chris is not violating
anything, KP literally didn't fire him
after she found out about the story. So,
the fact that she's criticizing other
people for not doing so is well, she
never got the chance to fire him because
he was already gone. That's the other
thing. He wasn't working for KP anymore.
Yeah. She's saying that she heard this
story almost a decade later. Yeah. Yeah.
Just listen to how Bush described it
affecting his family. What was it like
for you to go back home after the Why
are we Who cares? You made the point. Oh
my god. When are we going to talk about
Saber Spark? That's a good question, Q.
I wonder when we're going to talk about
Saber Spark. Tape has been released.
We're just being split into a different
video. What was that moment like for
you? Well, the initial moments, chat,
it's time to do it. Time to go a little
bit faster, chat. Oh, it's real. It gets
more real. This can't be any
Remember how I said this has been? Yeah,
I think it is. Greg, remember when I
said this had more in common with with
[\h__\h] Mama Max's video? The thing was
we were like a couple of us were
watching it live and like we're at this
part and we're like, "What the [\h__\h] is
going on? What is it? What is this
feaver dream of a video? What is she
trying to say?" Oh yeah. Fun fact, we
were there the entire premiere. We were
tracking this video from like moment
one.
Yes. Oh no. Axel Sabre doesn't come in
until like an hour. I think Axel, it's
not even an hour. It's 90% in the video.
90% of the video.
Total chaos that she didn't even mention
DA Games yet, but we'll get there. Me
before now they're outside the gate and
ready to go. And but once we settled
um and got to connect, there was a
powerful moment. My now 16-year-old
daughter called me and she was in tears
and she was really upset. And I I said,
"Mary, it's it's going to be okay, you
know, don't worry." And she said, "No,
why were you laughing at the things that
he was saying on that bus? Why were you
playing along with that? It wasn't
funny." I said, "Mary, I am sorry." And
there is no good answer for that. Who?
If you take another extreme example, do
you guys remember the Michael Vic
controversy?
Michael, you guys remember Michael Vic?
He's brick. Michael Vic.
Michael Vic. dog fighting. Very f very
famously Michael Vic used to be used to
be a quarterback for the Atlanta
Falcons. They found him dog fighting.
They actually arrested him. I'm pretty
sure he went to jail. Went to jail. He
paid his debt to society. What? Eight
years he was Yes. Uh I don't know if it
was that long. He actually came back.
Eight years. He he came
back and like if I remember correctly,
he's he's worked on repairing his image
specifically with uh um like pet
communities and things like that post
his uh post his fire um post his uh
arrest that Yeah. post his arrest. The
thing is like Michael was arrested when
I was in high school. I was
I was also in No, you had to be younger
because No, maybe it was after I
graduated high school. Bronies, do you
get the Michael Vic reference? Okay,
Brody's in chat. How many of you were
mad about Michael Vic? When did Michael
Vic go to jail? It was like 2004. You
could look it up. I got You got a
computer? I know. I know. I'm just
talking. No, no, Q. This is your moment.
And I I if you if you do that, you'll be
doing more research than KP. Yeah. For
those who don't know, American football
player Michael Vic was caught running a
dog fighting ring. You know, where they
take poor little puppies for gambling.
Yeah. He went to jail in 2007. Almost 20
years ago. Literally 18 years ago. And
he No. No. Okay. I want to let you know
he spent 21 months in federal prison. He
didn't even spend two years. He's been
He did a year and 10 10 months. Mhm.
Year and nine months. It's like if you
were born the day Michael Vic went to
prison, you can vote now. Do you want to
know why Michael Vic is such a bad
comparison? Michael Vic after paying a
debt to society actually went back into
the NFL. He did. He He was a backup for
a bit. He actually played I
believe to Eagles. Yeah. And he actually
had he actually didn't play terribly
either. No. Uh Michael Vic was one of my
favorite quarterbacks in the league and
I think he's proto for every running
quarterback since and nobody's ever
compared to him. Okay. Cuz he was a
better passer than all of them. Didn't
Wasn't he on the bench? And I don't know
who was playing starter. They went down
and Michael Vic went in. Uh I believe
Fos and and then and then Vic was like
the starter for a while, wasn't he?
Yeah. Yeah. Fos went down twice. He also
didn't sexually assault anybody that we
know of. Um Yeah. He that we know of.
Yeah. But again, he paid his debt to
society and was allowed to work back in
the industry. So what KP is stating,
hey, here's the Michael Vic comparison.
So, if Chris has never talked about the
story again and is getting reprimanded
behind the
scenes, why are you why are you saying
the people who still allow him to work
with them are inherently terrible
because Chris is around? This is a
terrible
comparison. He was allowed to work in
the NFL again.
He played for the Eagles. I'm pretty
sure there's a clause in contract that
says do that but he was he anybody can
make YouTube videos f by the way by the
way that is become that is way becoming
the issue I want to point out I want to
point out that Michael Vic is doing just
fine as head coach of Norfolk State.
Yeah he's a he's a he's a college head
coach now. He's doing just fine. Moon
Bunnies Moonies is exactly correct. If
Michael Vic never had gotten arrested he
would have been the LeBron James of the
NFL. I will I will stand on those
grounds. He was that good. He was and he
was a better [\h__\h] passer than people
give him credit for. And he coined the
rushing uh uh um the rushing style that
you see in the NFL today. I'm a big
football nerd. I don't know about that.
I prior to you that was Cordell Cordell
Stewart.
Cordell Stewart. Uh maybe. But I would
say Vic exemplified it in the new age.
H. But do you you want to know what
sucks though? Yeah. Brett Far was a
running quarterback. You want to know
what sucks though, sports nerds? What?
The only thing me and Ash ever know him
for is that dog fighting? Yeah, that
happens. That's what he's going to be
known for for the rest. Brett Star was a
running quarterback and that was before
Michael Vic. I don't know who that is.
John Elway. You don't know who Brett
Favre is. We We don't got time for this
chat. Let's keep going. Also fired on
grounds. Imagine consequences for your
actions. At the very least, let's again
moral grounds is a loose thing. Yeah,
this is Yeah. Yeah. This has nothing to
do with Saber Sparklo, please. This is
two
hours. But again, moral clause is just
used to fire anybody for other things.
He was also in jail. He went to jail.
What are they going to do? Keep him on
the [\h__\h] bench while he's in federal
state? Like federal prison?
assume the absolute best of the
situation. Chris was being truthful.
Saber in her will.
You You're saying he's doubtful. So
you're again a moral judgment that you
have no basis of a reality of because
the story got back to her that they
heard it back then.
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OP, I knew
wh was when I was five.
Risa, the reason why you put Sabre's
name first is because he's the one with
the most [\h__\h] pull. Also, thank you
for the donut. Thank you for the dono.
Zaki Kentai, thank you. Thank you.
Wasn't there to hear these
conversations? This happened before he
was hired somehow. I'm glad a
whistleblower came forward. But even so,
if this is how someone is talking about
women, shouldn't you tell their future
bosses? Does an employee talk about
women in this unethical? So, are you
blaming the whistleblower now? The
person that So, this part confused me.
Listen, listen to this part again. To
hear these conversations, this happened
before he was hired somehow. I'm glad a
whistleblower came forward. But even so,
if this is how someone is talking about
women, shouldn't you tell their future
bosses? Does an employee talking about
women in this unethical way make the
company look bad? Shouldn't you tell
their future bosses?
How would you tell a future boss? How
would you Hey, he said this. He said
this thing that was unsubstantiated at
the time. That implies that you that
someone is stalking this dude to know
when he gets a new job so they can tell
their new employer that hey, this guy
did this.
She is calling for blackballing of Chris
is what she really wants. Yeah, she
wants Chris. We could say it again. What
Chris did, she doesn't want him to work
in and walk in here work in the industry
ever again. Yeah.
Again, she should she should release
that whole call so that Yeah. You could
see everyone. Everyone can. Yeah.
Everyone can judge for themselves
because he didn't release a full call.
We don't have the context to know if he
said in 2023, hey, you know, I said it
and and I'm not sorry and it is true or,
you know, if he said crazy [\h__\h] and
added on to it, that's one thing. But if
he's, you know, if he's, you know, I
admitted, I said crazy [\h__\h] uh, whether
it's true or not, whatever. But also,
uh, I'm sorry, blah, blah, blah. Like,
you can never forgive him. But like like
that that's on you because of what he's
saying about you particular. Okay. No,
no, no, no, no, no. I'm going to I'm
going to point this out. This is the
same [\h__\h] people were doing to try and
get people fired for things that they
said online. Yeah. This this is she
wants him to be cancelled. Again, I
don't and I again, we of the OP block do
not agree with what Chris said. It's
[\h__\h] up and disgusting. I don't like
that. Yeah, I'm not I'm not I'm not
defending him on on what he said or did
at all.
Uh when we were talking about this in
her server in her Discord server, the
channels got deleted and some people
were talking about it and got timed out.
What regarding what Ash KP only wanted
to state her BS with him? Yeah, I I
would
agree.
Um this is the reason there are this is
the reason why they're included. She is
saying Chris can't work in the industry
because of what he did to her.
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. It was about this
video. Yes, I got you. I got you. Again,
there's history between
them and there's further history that
proves that. And I can't say it's Chris
for sure, but there's further history
regarding the KP Anon leaks that ties
into other things, but we'll get there.
I mean, this isn't just a slip of the
tongue. This is a purposeful attempt to
objectify a woman due to bitterness and
self-esteem issues and should be taken
seriously in any workplace, even a
virtual one like YouTube. And the fact
that DIA Games and others value Chris's
safety and privacy more than holding him
accountable makes me worry because this
is harassment and I don't have to take
it. New
develop harassment. We'll get there.
This sounds so much worse when you
really think about the implications of
what she's saying. She's terrible.
Thank you, Axel. Thank you. Again, I
look, if somebody if somebody somebody's
saying a bad story or a bad joke or or
being inappropriate a decade ago, and if
they've there's no consistent
uh uh instances of it happening again
with multiple women, that's different
than like hiring a dude who is known as
as a, you know, sexual deviant or a sex
pest or whatever, you
know. Or am I wrong? I agree. Yeah, I
agree. That was a really long pause.
Sorry.
I want to be a very pregnant pause.
Greg, I mean I mean we are pregnant. We
are pregnant. Um not Q. Greg pregnant,
but I don't know. Don't you [\h__\h]
dare. Okay, then I won't. I will say
this. Uh uh I do want to uh highlight
this for a second cuz I know myself and
and the other ops have been focusing and
don't we did a lot of research. So I
[\h__\h] please you support this channel.
I don't listen I know I shill for like
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to be like three streams worth of
information. Brother you you shill for
other people's
problem. You're like I'm going to I'm
going to talk about Diesel's coffee and
please sub to beckon. We have we have a
Kofi in the Discord. Uh you can go
there. Uh, like the video, subscribe, do
the thing. Yeah, we Yeah, shill harder.
Okay, so like this is some of the other
stuff, too. I am not a piece of female
meat that you can brag about by having
an association with. I was your boss and
you made sexual comments about me
constantly, which I tolerated, but I
will not tolerate this. So then the
question was where was the line when
they made sexual comment like was there
a back and forth? Question. Not okay.
But still question why is the why are
they using the image of Saber Spark as
if to imply that Saber Spark was the one
that said this. This is this is around
the video again cuz it's an association
the way that his boss now. Yeah, because
the way it has the image it seemed like
that like he was all right. All right.
It's we'll get there. And I know we
covered it before. She said it was okay
that that he would brag about being her
boss, but then all the other stuff which
again she shouldn't have said.
I posted part of the email exchange on
Twitter again and that blew up. I guess
DA Games release a statement due to
public pressure. We are aware of the
accusations that has been made against
Chris at this time. Chris is on
indefinitely from DA Games as he
releases his statement and works on
himself. This act uh this action Chris
is accused of pre proceeded his
employment at DA games when we were made
aware of this Chris to take
accountability and we reprimand and
retain per UK business protocol law
protocol/law and at this time neither us
nor Chris find it healthy to have him
involved in DA games world despite said
retraining and
reprimanding. I will also
she
won, but I will also kind of just
highlight she may have also gotten this
information if she talked to
them. Again, I don't agree with it
either. I think he him being fired is
completely fine, but it's very
interesting.
Sure. If not, then they would have
released their statement a year ago when
this email exchange took place. Chris is
going away on work training. Um, can I
have proof of that, please? because
you've already been pretty untruthful to
me. I think you guys are just trying to
wait until this all dies down and
everyone forgets and then Chris will
just magically appear.
Okay, what is this? Apparently, he came
back now. Like, what? She just going
from TV show to TV show. Oh, we'll get
there. Quirk chungus. Everybody again,
if Chris wants if they want to rehire
Chris, what the [\h__\h] do we do? I mean,
they literally did everything. They're
saying they did what they did by Yuga.
Remember this? Do you know remember what
hyped up
this? I didn't get I didn't show it on
screen, but what hyped this I I I'll
show it now cuz because I do think it's
important now that we're here.
Um, what hyped this
video was allegations of sexual assault.
Remember, this was hyped. This is what
preceded this
video. So, we already knew that there
was an e that these accusations were
around. This preceded the video. Where
is Saber Spark? Where is he?
where
[Music]
Chris's statement also came out which is
really respectful mean employer. Oh, by
the way, I was being sarcastic. And then
trying to make himself the victim.
Chris, if you felt mistreated, this is
the first I'm ever hearing about it. So,
politely talk. All right, let's go back
to this for a second. Uh, it came to my
attention that a former acquaintance and
employer has made some allegations about
me that I have to clear up and I don't
want to indirectly incentivize
harassment. Will refer to them as blue
when appropriate. was not going to
acknowledge this, but since people who I
care about are being dragged into this
situation, I feel it best to make a
statement. First of all, I once again
apologized to them for what I said in
confidence in the past. I uh the joke I
told was immature, appalling, and not
reflective of who I am today. It was
conjured up out of spite and anger for
someone who mistreated myself and many
close friends in the past and was not
only it was meant only as quote locker
room joke for those who are upset and
burned by blue. It was inexcusable and
I'm
sorry. The tasteless joke goes like
this. Uh quote this is the content
warning. I don't blah blah blah. Quote
he cuz I'm not saying I. He was in a
hotel bathroom sitting on the toilet
pleasuring himself when in the middle of
ejaculating he lost his balance and fell
landing face first on a pair of
underwear which belonged to Blue. The
joke is not based in reality. It never
actually occurred and Blue was told this
when they asked about its validity.
Although the intention of the joke was
to make uh make more at an expense and
uh at my expense instead of theirs, it
hurt and disgusted them and told uh when
told to them long after I had stopped
telling the joke many years
ago. How it affected them more how it
affected them is more important. Not my
intentions. I had not been working for
Blue
um when this poor excuse for a joke was
created.
He was not in her employee when he said
the joke. Important to note, I don't
like defending it, but it's also
important that he is saying the locker
room [\h__\h] as
frustration, which also
sucks. Uh, nor was I telling it well
into my employment with other
individuals. So, for them to be accosted
at all is not right. This is a matter
between Blue and myself and should
remain this way. I have received
reprimands and retrading accordingly to
my by my employers. I do not want to
have the people who um gave me
employment long after I had grown past
this stage of my life uh to be facing
eye for my own personal actions and
insist that I release my statement on my
own instead of dragging the further uh
them further into my actions. This is my
fault, not theirs. And if anything, I
will ask them both for the forgiveness
for being uh for bringing them and my
co-workers from both companies into this
situation. I haven't spoken to Blue in
years, and I'm not currently speaking to
them now. But when they messaged me on
Discord asking to talk about the joke,
uh that I had told them years after I
had stopped telling it roughly eight
years, I believe, I was shocked to hear
it repeated back to them, uh back to me
from them and profusely
apologized. Rightfully they were upset,
but Blue has told me that they wished to
discuss the matter in private call to
which I agreed. This call where I took
full responsibility for my past behavior
and express my sincere regret was
recorded without my consent. Anyone
realizing a pattern that this person is
from the
UK? Uh, I'm pretty sure the UK has a big
time laws about recording. It didn't
sound like it. I didn't hear no accent.
Maybe. Oh, that's true. I don't know.
Yeah, maybe there wasn't. But he works
in the UK or his his boss or his boss is
British.
No, Chris isn't from the UK. What I'm
saying is that his job was in the UK. If
he lived in the UA, the UK at the time,
who knows? I don't know this. I'm just
saying a lot of UK stuff being thrown
around. We'll get to a UK point later.
Uh the only silver lining uh is the
recording is this thing is you can hear
my apology and our agreement to not
contact each other after that. So
again what we're highlighting is that
she accepted his pro his apology
privately and then continued to go on a
on a campaign to get him which is really
an employer. How'd you do that? I
accidentally clicked it. But again,
yeah, she should just release the call.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way, I was being sarcastic.
And then trying to make himself the
victim. Chris, if you felt mistreated,
this is the first I'm ever hearing about
it. So, politely talk to me directly.
But I think something really interesting
when we talk about disgruntled
employees is looking at the history of
KP and disgruntled
employees. So I have a couple different
videos real quick about
it.
Uh which is the one
uh the KP controversy, the Anon leaks
explained. I don't know who this
YouTuber is, but we have stuff for it.
Come on, you can do it, computer. This
is an unlisted video, by the way. Uh,
going into things. So, pretty much all
of my experiences with KP were kind of
fresh and she approached me about the
John Delansancy project, and I thought
that it had good intentions because she
was trying to All right, side note, side
note, side note. I need all of you brony
people to stop using ponies. Yeah, move
on to anything else. I know this video
is eight years old. God, I need to
[\h__\h] Yeah, it's eight years old,
dude. Like,
so these are This is Bogsy from what I
understand. These are people that worked
with KP. By the way, for those who don't
know, she has constantly recorded
conversations without consent. She has a
bit of a reputation with that. Yeah, I
believe. Yes. So, these are people
talking about the non KP leaks because
Yeah, these are two KP volunteers, not
Bogsy. I apologize. Thank you. Thank
you. Thank
you. This video explains the roles that
Bogsy, Shawn, and I played behind the
scenes at a nonKP
leaks. So, it seems that very
interestingly so, KP has had issues with
it.
Again, we do not agree with what um
Chris said and or has done, but it's
very important to remember that that
according to him and according to the
call, he profusely apologizes and she
feels that it's not enough.
There's a whole bunch of stuff of the
documentary got pirated and she wanted
to make up for that because she saw how
John Delansancy was reacting to the
fandom at the time and I sympathized
with that and thought that was a kind
gesture to make and I thought it was
going to be like this small little
project but the more time went on the
more I realized oh this is bigger than I
thought it was going to be and honestly
bigger than it probably should be and
because of that I kind of grew to resent
the project and to an extent grew to
resent her. Uh, a lot of the time I felt
like I was doing all the work because I
took on multiple roles when I was
working for Team KP. I was an animator,
editor, audio mixer, graphic designer. I
did a lot of stuff when I was working
for Team KP and I felt like I was doing
most of it and I wasn't appreciated for
it. And she would So again, there is a
history of things regarding
uh disgruntled employees. again doesn't
defend what Chris
said,
but if you have it'd be crazy if you
continue to make videos and go after
people in this
um in this space. She's a victim in this
situation and if she doesn't want to
forgive him, that's her right question
mark. No apology can really make up for
that. That's
weird. We listen, she cannot forgive
him. That's 100% correct. But people can
people can move on from it. I hate to
say that, but he's he's not entitled to
none
employment because she's saying that she
does not
accept his
retraining. Yes, but she also can't say
that an apology wasn't made. That
too, she can't
acmp employment. I've said this uh I
said this before too. uh the Mama Mac
stuff. I don't think people should have
went after him working with kids. I
really didn't either. Now, I know it's
not the same level of
allegations, but the problem is is that
you cannot constantly do life ruination
to
people over specific things. And again,
this wasn't a crime. If she wants Chris
to pay for it, sue him straight up. Go
to court. Go to civil court. I'm sorry.
I'm not saying that anybody I don't want
to do the lawsuit stuff. I don't like
seeing it. I don't recommend it. I don't
like it. But I don't know what more this
guy can
do. If he's apologized to her and she
doesn't like it, what the [\h__\h] is he
supposed to do? And again, these are
Saber Spark
allegations. Where is it?
always have something new to give to me
and I just felt like there was no end to
it again and there is allegations I
won't play this whole thing uh uh we
have it you can grab it for yourself but
like there are allegations that she
hasn't been the kindest boss behind the
scenes either should she also she's very
legit Vali is a very legitious person no
I'm not again I'm not saying anything I
think KP is within her right to make a
video regarding how she feels wronged by
him Not what I'm
saying. What I'm si what I'm focused on
is the fact that this is
petty. This is personal beef. I wouldn't
even say petty beef. This is personal
beef and personal wrongs tied into
claiming a large YouTuber raped
someone. There's levels.
Let's get back into this video because
we're only 12 minutes in
or shut the [\h__\h] up. You need to shut
the [\h__\h] up. I know we have this dude
broke culture around YouTube
entrepreneurs who have never been to
business school before and don't know
about good company ethics. As far as
Chris, I would hope he gets an official
investigation into his I don't know KP.
It sounds like your history you don't
have good company ethics either. Yeah,
it doesn't seem like you know either.
What? Hold on. Let this play a little
bit longer. Hold on. Okay, we're from
both parties and as a lead with the
Billy Bush example possibly terminated.
I don't know if Wait, hold on. Go. Okay,
hold on. She wants an official
investigation into Chris's character
from both parties. Who are the parties?
Who is the official investigator? How do
you investigate somebody's character for
what? A third A third party or a third
party? Who's going to pay for that? Are
you the one of the parties? Are you
going to pay for it? Who's going to be
the nonbiased person that's going to be
handling it? Yeah. Good company ethics
from the woman who holds free editors to
an NDA contract most professionals
wouldn't use. So, I I sigh, if you have
uh uh evidence of those statements, I'd
love to grab those um because I don't
know if we had those specifically. We
have other allegations that she's talked
about uh or or that have been levied her
way. But again, I want to highlight
this. I'll send I'll send you the
contract.
[\h__\h] me. This is going to be a long
[\h__\h] stream.
I hate this. M I hate this. No, you
don't. You just have it. Chat, is this
going to be reading contracts? [\h__\h]
share this with your friends, chat. I
guess is this going to be better or or
longer or shorter than Mama Max? No,
it's going to be longer. You really need
to be longer saying the N word 10 years
ago and potentially fired over it. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I heard that too
recently. Uh somebody in in chess. What?
What? Somebody named Axis said, "I heard
it recently." I said the N. What? I've
never
Okay, you got to prove it. Prove 10
years ago. Okay, take me back. Changed
or what his character is now? Or are
there any other victims out there? Also,
time out. They did do an investigation.
You're not happy with the outcome of the
investigation. You're not happy with it
that they accepted their investigation
and moved on. You're not happy with it.
You would have been crazy if you had the
investigation documentation and you were
able to highlight how they [\h__\h] up
with it.
Pro prove you've changed, Fali. Axis,
you're my friend. I've
changed. FG, you need to be investigated
for spoiling Persona 3. Uh, you know
what? That's fair. That's fair. But do
you really want this kind of guy to be
representing your company? To work in a
media industry is a privilege. Why
protect sexual harassers? Even if it's
just a dumb internet job. And I know
this all sucks. Hearing this is probably
going to suck. Working on this video has
sucked real bad. I've cried a lot. But
it seems like that miners are in threat
of being prayed on. Will himself has
done some suspicious behavior and it
seems like nothing's going to change
unless it's talked about in a bigger
way. I'm as bad as hell and I'm not
going to take this anymore. So,
also also I want to note that is a
[\h__\h] insult to that movie and that
scene. I'm tired chat to use that
particular scene like you need to cut
down on these cutaway gags. You're
you're not doing yourself any justice.
You made this probably 20 times longer.
There's a 6 months of investigation.
Apparently
from her. So that's why we're here. Part
zero. Just disapproving KP rep. We're at
part zero. We're not even We're not even
This is the primer. Even the thing.
We're not even at part one.
How do you have two primers? Unqualified
to do this or have false information
about things that have happened in the
past they are using to make a judgment
on this case. And that's concerning. So,
let's go ahead and just prove some KP's
bad. For example, when this was trending
on Reddit, I got comments like this. And
if that's still not enough for you,
listen to this. And another aspect that
I didn't really take into account until
rather
it would be
crazy. How does she frame
this? How does she How does she frame
this? Brandon, I'm not going to go one
guide for a second, but I do want to
just address it. We all agree that Chris
is not cool for sharing those jokes.
It's actually
deplorable, but at a certain point, I
don't like, do you believe he has a kid?
Should his kid should his kid
starve? They investigated him. Should
his should his child
starve? Should he lose his job in
animation and what? Get a job at
McDonald. Like at a certain point like
what the [\h__\h] are we going to do? The
fries in the bag like like like how are
we going to do this recently is on top
of all the work that the we can't we
like everyone sucks in this situation. I
don't disagree with you. We we agree.
I'm telling you we agree. The problem is
where are we going with it? Team members
are having to do there's something to be
said for all the work that goes into
managing those team members. I can't
imagine it must be an easy job. Sigh
you. Oh god. SI
read Italian man. No. Is it a Twitter
NDA where you have to sign your name?
No, it's a full ass [\h__\h] contract.
Oh boy. Oh, we'll read this later.
Because you have to make sure that
everyone is on the same page with
everything all the time. Everyone's
keeping up to date with progress and is
generally handing things in on time, all
while trying to keep them happy and make
them feel like they're in a positive
working environment. And at that point,
I said, "Look, I'm sorry I couldn't
finish it, but I need to get back to my
other work." And KP, she let me go. She
didn't force me to stay. She didn't say,
"Oh, you have to keep working for me."
She said, "Okay, you can go. Maybe I'll
contact you again later when you're not
busy." Started a channel to spread her
opinions and built a team around her.
I've seen her make mistakes, take them
to heart, and return improved. She is a
leader, so she must lead in the way she
know.
Huh. Weird. Greg, didn't we have
somebody
before who was financially incentivized
to make sure the person being accused
had a good job and still was able to pay
them? Who was it? Was it Pago in the
Mama Max video? Uh, Proxis Frisky.
Proxis Frisky. That's right. Right. It's
almost like the people who have a
because at the same time you can't levy
the same criticisms towards Saber Spark
because I'm not we're not going to touch
EA games. DA Games is going to get
brought up. There's a whole again we're
going to have an entire stream on them.
You can't levy the same things that
around Sabers Spark than you are about
KP.
It's like this is just
aboutay. Again, I don't hate KP. I don't
think they're necessarily an evil
person. I just think they're dumb. I
think they're just a little kind of
[\h__\h] like petty about they're petty
about certain
things. Not about uh uh uh whatever
comments Chris made. I don't think
that's necessarily petty. I I want to be
very clear. I don't think they're petty
about that. But this stuff reads petty
knows. But she is always ready to listen
to help and when she is unsure, seek
advice herself. In the wake of all of
this, I had the privilege of meeting
some of team KP to which my initial
reaction was, she still has a staff. And
it's true. Bunch of real sweethearts who
in defiance of Twitter reason, common
sense, and probable human resource
statutes. Actually, still love. I love
Compossible a lot. A lot. And take my
word for it. They were just as non-blust
about all this leaks business as anyone.
Actually, no, don't take my word for it.
Why not go check out their page and get
it from the various horses mouths
yourself, darling people? The whole on
KP league situation is as follows. I do
not regret making it because at the time
I truly believed I was doing something
for the better good. Michael, this is
illegal. Did you really think Why aren't
you playing these videos in full? Yeah,
they're super loud. No, bad audio
mixing. Bad audio mixing.
No one would check for audio time to
make this video and she didn't care
enough to go back over it.
I guess never underestimate the power of
too long didn't read. Did I get paid
now, Rachel? For those playing at home,
the TLDDR is that this is utter
nonsense. Especially this bit. But KP,
what about this? She was exposed as a
manipulator and a user. Uh, somehow she
managed to get an entire team of people
to get to work on her projects. Only
they didn't get any compensation for it.
God forbid people have hobbies. I guess
every reanimated is just an anti-
capitalism abomination. Disgust.
Don't
don't remember when I said that this was
this exposed was years in the making.
It'd be really weird if this video is
90% her griefs with other people.
No, it couldn't be. No. Oh, that's
crazy.
Again,
I don't hate her. I want to make it very
clear. I think the DA game stuff that
that we'll go over is incredibly
disgusting. It's why we're dedicating a
whole [\h__\h] stream to
it. But what the [\h__\h] is
happening? Where is Saber
Spark again? Uh, she has this video. Uh,
this is is Saber Spark in the room with
us? Is Saber Spark in the room with us?
Is Labor Spark Omniman? Where is Saber
Spark?
Hold up. Hold up.
We didn't say anything. No, no, no, no,
no, no. I want to figure something
out. My bad. I had to answer something.
Is it linked here? I remember watching a
video that she posted on YouTube a
couple of year back. It was a long drawn
up video about how she was almost canled
from the community and how she was a
victim of stalking and her struggles
with PTSD which he brings up like every
time she gets the opportunity. Like
what? Shaming trauma victims probably
wasn't your best move, my guy. Just
saying. She probably thought that
because the very disingenuous voice to
use when they're reading a [\h__\h] Yes,
it is.
Okay. Okay. Like reminder, most times
when you make [\h__\h] videos about your
personal beef and drama, it's going to
be [\h__\h] cringe and lame. Again, and
it's probably going to fall off on its
face because you can't be objective on
actually if it's good or not.
Again, want to make it very clear when
the indiv when they're talking about her
and not paying her, she's like, "Oh, god
forbid people have
hobbies." You have an animation studio
now. Are people not entitled to be paid
for their
work? I pay all of our artists who give
us official work. I would never consider
getting this [\h__\h] for
free. You
[\h__\h] Why does this matter in your
claims about people being pedophiles,
zufiles, rapists, sexual assaulters
making claims about [\h__\h] coming on
your underwear?
Why is this
here? Again, this is not a truncated
version of this.
[Music]
Why is this purposefully annoying voice
less annoying than KP's regular speaking
voice?
Yeah, exactly. Certain level of
smuggness affiliated with it. I think
that's why.
Yeah, that would go on the attack. She
also had like a Twitter meltdown when
she had to pay like for her own way into
Brenon, I think. I can't remember which
convention cuz I didn't bother
factchecking. Whereas other members of
the banelis's committee like silver got
really goes to show. Oh my god. Guy for
the two. Thank you. No, no, Falg be like
madam. Pay an exposure. I should You're
right. You're right. We should pay you
guys an exposure next time. All our
artists paid in exposure forever. I
can't I can't even say that out loud.
Oh, how much of a tight group when it
comes to pitching about about that? Of
course, I'm not paying them [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
exposure. I literally went on a [\h__\h]
tirade. Love and tolerance like peace.
That's not what happened.
I was frustrated that Brony Con changed
their minds about my guest spot based on
false information and they were informed
it was false information from another
convention head. It's very victim blamy.
more details here which probably why
aren't you featuring that in this video
then if you're saying all the details
are in that video explains why people
don't see her much after that with other
committee members all in all KP
distribes me as just another individ
proof it's in a different video you
should watch hey this video is 2 hours
watch a 59minute video
who constantly acts like a spoiled child
who acts out when they can't get what
they want this guy obviously doesn't
know me because it's not really my
character these types of individuals How
do we know that? That's personal
antidote from you.
What is happening? Believe that
everything should be like handed to them
with little or no effort simply because
they're recognized in a group or
community. I know it sounds like I'm
saying like # burn the witch, but my
actual point is she's just another
example of what happens when you let
internet or in this case horse fame go
to your head. Horse or is that what they
call it? It's all produce. Okay. You
know, Killjoy told Vosch Vosch Vosch
Kiljoy told me like she used to have
like a um her persona was a pony. Yes,
it's that and it was specifically one of
the MLP characters that had like a I can
fix him with Discord from My Little
Pony. I don't know what Discord is. He's
like a an evil being from My Little
Pony.
Oh, yes. I unfortunately unwittingly
know what Discord is now. I don't I
don't know what that is. And you know
what? I'm fine. He's like a magic being.
I I you know, I I did not watch My
Little Pony. I only know like a little
bit just cuz my niece watched it. Chat,
as an aside, they have words for
literally everything apparently. Chat,
as a literal aside, there 190 of you and
only 49 likes. Let's get that to 69. Oh,
wait. For real? He's voiced by John D.
Wait. Yeah, he's voiced by John Lansy.
Yeah, that's the Yeah. Why would we work
so hard on She apparently she had an
interview with John Delansancy and she
made like three different videos on it
or something. It's crazy. Her OC is a
Fluttershy recolor discord is a literal
chaos dragon who Fluttershy has an I can
fix him relationship with. No, that's
isn't that they're ponies. There's not
dragons in this show. No. Isn't that the
But isn't that the uh what who is it?
It's it's her medallion, right? She has
a Chrischan medallion.
What is happening? No, she has a dragon
friend. Are you in the room with us?
God, Mr. Fluttershy. Um, shout out to
Mr. Fluttershy does not canonically date
him though. I don't care. There's so
much lore videos if they weren't fun. OC
only made for attention. More details
here. Make me your horse. Why? Why is
there more videos? Oh, Tusky posted on
stream. I am your god now. Bring me your
virgins. This is a confrontation between
someone who was supposed to but was
actively leaking assets to the team and
lying about it and then they were
caught. You can guess how this
confrontation goes. But ladies and
gentlemen, the day is a minded context.
The head of the time is a pretty soft
spoken guy. So this is the maddest I've
ever seen him. Oh yes. You know guys, it
would be crazy if we saw her one of the
people that works for her yell at a
random person we don't
know. Huh? Wait for it. Do you mind if
we take a hear me? Yeah. This is what
the messages were were a betrayal to the
team that you claim to represent. I
would say less so a betrayal to Rachel.
Still still a betrayal though. But quite
frankly, I'm insulted by what you you
chose to do. I you sat there. You
claimed to be representing the team. You
claimed to be wanting to improve the
team. Who are these people? You lied.
You're representing the team. Who are
you? Why aren't you showing proof that
this person leaked information? What is
going on? Where is Saber Spark?
Why is David Bowie here? Yeah. Again,
you're sicking one of your sips on a
guy. Who is
he? Who are you? Okay, now I'm [\h__\h]
lost for words. And the fact that I gave
you the [\h__\h] made you think that was a
like, how did you think you were
helping? How how what the [\h__\h] have you
got to say to yourself? And then even
now, I gave you the chance to come clean
and say, is there anything serious
accent. I know. And you didn't say
anything and you're you were denying it
until I said, "I have access. I see
everything." Initially, that maybe
access, what did you do? Access
were good. There's absolutely no [\h__\h]
denying the fact by the end of We would
get drunk if every club [\h__\h] was
mentioned in this that not even by the
end of it. Halfway through at the very
least, there was no denying that. That's
the my problem. You claimed that you
were doing this for us and yet you sat
there.
KP is like the female jar.
Shut up. We I was going to lead to that.
You [\h__\h] No, I said it first. She is.
She is female jar. Discord is a
draconicus, which is a madeup term for
like a weird horse dragon kind of likely
because nobody on the show was Chinese
or Japanese enough to know what a quino
is. Oh my god. God. Oh, true white lady
mentality. They're the they're the two
sides of the same coin. Yeah, this is
ACC [\h__\h] Dog piling. I can't believe
you leaked information
there and lied to us. You lied to me.
You lied to every single person in that
group. Who the [\h__\h] is this? Nobody
knows. Oh my god. Everybody, we've hit
the goal.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Ky
with the five. Thank you. Is real.
Robert 100. This would be like bringing
on made a video on the first live on
stream or some [\h__\h]
Oh my god. I I had to watch like the jar
video on Cinder and he [\h__\h] makes a
plantation joke. Oh yeah, cuz he sucks
middle of the video. It's time to feed
that
dog. It's time to feed the propers. It's
time to give her treats. It's time to
feed that dog
now on the upluck stream tonight. Let's
go,
chat. Good girl. Good girl, Leia.
Everybody view one another goal.
Also, [\h__\h] YouTube is so dog [\h__\h] My
like YouTube is crashed on Chrome like
three already. I need to sucks. I have
to like [\h__\h] around. I'm losing my mind.
I will increase I will increase the goal
a little bit which all good. Yes, that's
my per. She's Leia is our mascot of the
channel.
Yes, girl.
She is really the mascot of this
channel. We sat there and we said, "Can
we trust everyone in this group?" And
you sat there and said, "Yes." You
betrayed the team. Okay. You betrayed
[\h__\h] me personally. I'm taking that
personal sat there. told them. But this
is this is Zade. Guys, don't you
understand? This is Zade, the magical
Zade, leader of the team.
Isn't this a civil issue? If if
somebody's leaking your NDA content,
weird. Do they say every
pony is about to upload that video? And
what did you hope to achieve? It
happened that I was preparing that video
and that's when I told you, by the way,
we're putting it back up. We made that
decision weeks ago. We made that
decision when we posted it in the radio
play chat when people were said explain
that we're not happy. We said yes, we
have a video ready. We'll upload it in a
few weeks. That's why that video was
going But why were people not
happy? Why are you not explaining? Were
people happy because I got outed? Were
people not happy because they were upset
with the way you guys maybe treat your
employees? They're not explaining it
because this is a call between three
people. Well, this wasn't supposed to be
shared with however many [\h__\h] people.
I've seen this now. Going up. Did you
ask me? No. Did you think that maybe
maybe a bit more something better could
come out of this if you [\h__\h] talk to
us? Okay. Nothing good came out of that
group. Nothing group. Sorry, that's
Twitter. Nothing going on anymore. You
know what good came out of this? The
Skype group. The group of people that
sat down like grown men and [\h__\h]
wrote down their complaints. Like grown
men who talk about ponies and have
fascination about ponies and maybe want
to [\h__\h] the ponies from time to time.
Grown men on Twitter.
Why aren't you all using your pony
avatars? Yeah, Greg. Also, why aren't
you all using your pony avatars? I just
want to go back to my Just reach out to
Beetle Pids to get your pony avatar from
the thingab booer.
We have the Christmas. We're already two
hours in. All right. Oh my god, I missed
my kitty. Nothing good from that guy.
Yay. Do you want to know what everybody
else on the team the only two people
that said anything bad to those to the
ad on Twitter are the two people in that
group not on the currency. Do you know
what everybody else has said to that
Twitter? They [\h__\h] said [\h__\h] off
because you're not helping. You are
literally here to be malicious. You're
here to tease Rachel. You're okay. So, I
have something interesting that I got
sent. The Apple Jack principle. This is
a common mistake with new people and it
should be uh it should be addressed.
Many times people accept too much work,
overwhelm themselves, get frustrated due
to this uh deadline stress and quit. To
avoid this, please take these next words
with
caution. They include MLP every pony
talk in their clauses in their
contract. This is stuff directly from
the contract. What? That can't that
can't be legally binding.
Listen, you know who's on the job.
Panelist opportunities. If you wish to
be a panelist at a reviewing with I love
Kim Possible a lot panel, you must meet
the following requirements. Must be
comfortable speaking in front of a crowd
of at least 50 people. Working on a team
for at least 6 months and or in a
leadership position. Must have worked on
at least four projects. Note only one
complete long project for animators,
four to six months duration, and a
combination of smaller projects.
Guaranteed attendance to the convention
where the panel is pitched regardless of
panel position. Approval from KP must
meet the minimum age panelist uh uh
restrictions for panelist varies by
convention. I wonder if that's
foreshadowing for something.
I'm sure I can speak for every pony when
I say we do not care about this call.
Thank you. Thank you. I wonder if the
average age of a panelist comes up later
here to nag at her. There is no
defending it. That Twitter is
universally accepted not to have been a
good bro. She's not going to [\h__\h] you.
Stop screaming.
Oh, you know what? I'm going to hell for
that one. I'm going to hell for that
one. I'm so
sorry. Oh god. It is This is XR after
all. thing. The entire team while you
were in that group was saying that these
guys are dicks. Nobody on the team
supported them. And yet here you are
claiming to represent the team and
supporting them and lying to the rest of
the team while you do it. Part one. The
original incident with There we go. We
did it. We started the video. The
original incident with Chris. What do
you mean the original incident with
Chris? You already brought it up.
What happened? We've already been
through Chris. We went through 23
minutes part one. Let's go. We did We
did Chris, but we did Billy Bush and
Michael. What do you mean? Let's go with
Chris. Something I also wasn't aware of
is that Will made a statement after that
was literally the prelude. That was
literally the prelude we we suffered
through. And now we're going to talk
about Will and Da Games. Everybody, you
know, the one who was harassing me was
fired. It doesn't mention me or that
there was any victim or harassing her.
Again, this is her perspective on it
because there were people coming out
regarding some of her poor behavior
behind the scenes. What he did was bad.
Will even calls him a great person. So,
starting off on a real high note there.
So, remember Oh my god, I can't believe
they like Chris so much. Did he know
about this joke yet? I don't know.
is no longer a member of DA Games. Uh
he's still a very good friend of ours.
Um like especially me like I will
sometimes DM him. We'll be on Twitter,
the big tweeter sometimes, but I'm not
one for grudges. I don't do that. Um so
don't think this was an bad massive
Yeah. He's letting the audience know
that it was a wasn't a [\h__\h] fight
between the two. Again, we'll get into
Will. I'll tell you right now, I don't
like this [\h__\h] guy. This guy pisses
me off, but we'll get there. I don't
like this guy. I don't like this [\h__\h]
guy. You're not going to see me
defending him. This is all still in
relation to Chris. I want to make that
very [\h__\h] clear. We are 24 minutes
in. No Saber Spark mention. Hey, um
there's a lot of back end stuff that
kind of conflicted with our channel.
There's a lot of things that uh didn't
meet our requirements. Who is Bogs? Oh
no, nobody cares about Bogs. Video
started getting worse and worse, but it
was more or less just I was pressuring
him a lot. There's a lot of things he
had to do and there just wasn't enough
taking time as to accept the situation
that we were going through. Come to
mention it, there's a lot of like things
that maybe would have detrimented us in
the long run if we would have kept this
sort of conversation going and I don't
want to bring in logistics because
that's not
Yeah, it's all just user drama in the
end. I hate it. Sh. I think thank you,
but you're absolutely correct. thing
that should I don't want you hating the
dude because he is a fantastic being. He
just did a lot of wrong things and we
we're all learning from him each. Yes.
Why does he have his Hello Neighbor
instrumental in the background? We don't
even know why this guy DA Games made
music. So, I don't think there was any
mistreatment or I can't really explain
why Chris would be so frustrated enough
to do this. So, I brought my Chris
wasn't
you. You started making this public.
You can say you're allowed you're
allowed to put Oh my god. Hey, Lego Lord
X, thank you for subscribing. Thank you.
you you can come out and say whatever
you need to whenever something comes out
that's about you, but he's not allowed
to come out and say things when things
are being said about him. He is
literally saying he thought you two
squash the beef and he didn't know that
you were going around trying to get him
fired. He didn't know. So when he has to
address it, he he's not frustrated. He's
literally apologizing to you again. Like
I don't like I don't want to defend
Chris. I don't [\h__\h] care about Chris.
Nobody cares about Chris. But what does
this mean? All the evidence that we have
shown and all the stuff that we look
back on shows that there were other
people who didn't like
you. But Chris is the only one that you
can actually levy any allegations
against.
It feels that if any other person had
any other potential allegations, you
would have no problem [\h__\h] trying to
get them fired again.
And that's part of the problem. My
friend James on the team at the same
time as Chris to give some testimony.
Hi, I'm James. I used to work for Kippy
and I was the head editor of our first
team. I worked for her for about two to
three years and I was asked to give a
statement on Chris's work ethic on the
team. Chris in particular was an
extremely good editor, usually doing
stuff the rest of the team couldn't do,
but he was inconsistent with time. I'm
coming out about Chris because in his
recent statement, Chris claimed
mistreatment by being on the team. But
if someone was there, it just seemed
like he had unhealthy and alternative
motivations. And it was clear that he
would often say more than he could
deliver. Do you think maybe he's What is
that? That means nothing.
Had other motivations other than money?
Your only motivation needs to be money
to get your work done.
That also means
nothing. Why does this tie into
pedophilia zuhilia? Where's Saber Spark?
Where's Saber Spark? Omniman.
Again, this video is
bad. Doesn't make anything that people
said about KP, if false, completely
okay. But where? He's compensating for
something. In particular, though, he
often said more unsavory things. Either
just jokes to be funny or what usually
felt more personal. This was never a
paying gig. So, it seemed that he was
upset that it wasn't helping his career,
money, or even romantic situation. It
usually felt like he would push himself
and be
this was a volunteer position. Yeah,
they all did this as a hobby. Yeah, he
could complain. What? Look, you never
then you never worked for Yeah. Then
you're not his employer.
Then you don't have employees. If
they're volunteering, they're not your
employees. Romantic situation. Huh? What
is what did what are you saying?
Really good and then fell flat like he
had through your motives and scoff at
other editors for their work to make
himself look better. Really honing in.
He was obviously Yeah. Oh god. God
forbid the really good editor is saying
I can do better than them. God for like
again what is it's a competitive it's a
competitive field. Edit. Editing. Ash
would know better than me, but like
editing is a very competitive field.
Diesel talks about it too. I don't do
much. But but you do. Not really. Diesel
talks about it too. Like if you if
you're good, if you can like shoot your
[\h__\h] like you can you can make decent
amounts of money if you can, you know,
if you know what you're doing. But like
and part of that competitive nature if
depending on who you are can be being
braggadocious about it, being cocky
about it, whatever you want to say. Like
is it cool to do that in front of other
people? Probably not. But I mean it's
not illegal either to be to be a dick if
you're good at editing. Why is the title
card why is title card above the law?
If KP liked or reproved his work
bragging, which again was inconsistent
in my opinion, he also seemed to have a
crush on KP. It seemed
I don't care.
I don't care. I just don't care. I just
don't care. How are you sure? How are
you sure? This is as much hearsay as Do
you have evidence? This is much hearsay.
I don't get this obvious to me if you're
not sure about that. Sometimes he
antagonized another team member to get
our attention and also downplayed it
when talking with others. It was odd
that he would feel unappreciated when he
was acting out of his own will to help.
Don't know.
Can we skip to the allegations? No,
because there's more. If we skip to the
allegations, you watch 30 minutes of the
video.
[Laughter]
Who's joining the team? He still
committed to projects. Nearly left. It
would be a lot of she doesn't pay us
because she's too greedy. specifically
saying,
"Yeah, if you're Yeah, if if you're just
doing work,
the fact that you're you're willfully
ignorant about the pay structure and
plight of your fellow worker, you are a
[\h__\h] idiot.
That's so tremendous." He was
complaining about being paid, but this
was hobby. But then he complains about
not being paid because she's getting all
the
accolades. I wonder why. Could it be
that she's popping off while not paying
anybody? Oh my class traitor. No,
Metapom. This is This [\h__\h] video is
it's going to it's going to break you.
There's a lot of background [\h__\h] for it,
too, that I have to still go into. Thank
you to everybody who's here, by the way.
Uh, straight up to all to all our
lurkers. Uh, uh, people who are first
new to the channel. Shout out the
lurkers. Shout out like everybody who's
in here right now. Uh the VOD watchers,
when you see this part, you guys are the
best.
Metapom because she doesn't explain any
of it. Another she's cheap or she's the
only one benefiting from this. But the
reality is no one ever got paid. Often
in private conversations it would come
up, but he wouldn't be shy about
bringing it up during group
conversations. And this is if he
attended any meetings at all. We were a
little intimidated by his status to
bring this up to KP at the time. Though
Chris ultimately left the team with
almost no word. His work ethic dropped
dramatically over the months we were all
there. Overall, his experience was
wanted, helpful, but inconsistent.
I What does this mean? He could still He
could still feel He could still feel
like he's being exploited at the
workplace. I If you're not getting paid
for work, you're being exploited. Yeah.
Straight up though, if you're not
getting paid or at least compensated in
some way.
Yeah.
You do realize it's worse, right? Here's
part 1.5. Escalation to be unsafe with
minors. Who wrote this? God, just make
it parts. Just make them don't 1.5 1 A
1B escalation to being unsafe with
minor. If this video was just about
Chris making up a gross story about me a
while ago, I it should have been. I want
to just say that it like that way it
looks like, oh, Chris was unsafe with
the miners. No, no, it wasn't. The
argument for why bring this up now, but
things end up extending to more actions
that are No, no. You were always
planning to bring this up. Do not lie.
Do not lie right now. You were always
planning on bringing this up. Do not
lie. Your plan was always to burn Chris
on the fire. You just didn't have enough
[\h__\h] stand on
principle. You didn't have enough
information on everybody else you were
going to throw under the [\h__\h]
business. Yes, we are now going to talk
about DA Games. I want to [\h__\h]
highlight that what she's going to
highlight on about DA Games. There is a
[\h__\h] Google.com. We will be covering
on stream. I am not here to defend
anybody from DA Games. Want to highlight
that. Yes.
Just so the chat and really me are
aware. What is DA Games? She will
explain it. But DA Games is Dragon Age
Games. DA Games is a channel. I I would
believe you
Greg. DA Games, like many other people
from the Bronish fandom and other
things, is uh made music, like fan music
for their specific fandom
enjoyment.
And like this is just everything. And
now we're getting into who DA Games is.
They're questionable. It make it seem
like these people can't really be
trusted around children. We have a
testimony of a But what does that have
to do with Chris? What the
hell is what I'm saying? Going to sneak
in the [\h__\h] pedto [\h__\h] Oh yeah, now
we sneak this pedto [\h__\h] in because what
she's trying to do is create raising
escalation,
but it doesn't work. Like this is again
like I think what she's bringing up is
very
valid, but like the escalation is weird.
minor who Chris made uncomfortable by
me.
So allegedly Chris made a minor
uncomfortable. Do we have proof of that?
She mean too. Here's that story. She's
chosen to be left anonymous for obvious
reasons, but more about that in the
interview. I was in a voice chat with
Chris Will and one other person who I
cannot remember. They were another fan,
so it isn't very relevant as to who they
were. I was 14 at the time. I do not
remember how the conversation got to
this point, but at one point Chris made
a joke about me being into beastiality,
specifically using the term beastiality,
which I didn't understand at the time. I
simply responded being confused about
the joke and Chris seemed to find that
funny. My camera was on. They were using
a third party tool to have cameras with
voice chats at the time. And I You mean
Discord? Okay. I hate that the fact that
all of these people have children in
their Discords. I need to make this very
clear. [\h__\h] all of these people for
having
children in their Discords. I don't like
it and I will call you out for it.
I don't understand. He allegedly said
BCL. Did he Did he go into it? Like I I
don't know. Like this is somebody's
testimony. Did he just say the word?
Yeah. I'm not defending this. You
shouldn't say this in front of kids at
all. Like at all. But you also shouldn't
be in a situation where you'd be in a
call with kids. Yes.
I had met Will sometime before voice
chat in person. They had to have known I
was underage. This by itself is not that
awful. Simply weird. But together with
everything else that has happened and
what these people have done, I think
it's important to share as it shows a
pattern of people in and around DA games
creating an unsafe environment. Which I
can
agree if there's any
substantial
evidence. You can't just make accusate.
Again, we saw this with the Mama Max
stuff, right? Mama Max was the person
who wastes my time. We Mama Max was not
the sole person for the reason that
night docks fell apart. Other people
were talking about were talking [\h__\h]
about night docks behind the
scene. And yes, they should have openly
said that them throwing Max completely
under the bus, while I do believe part
of it is warranted, is not solely the
issue. There is also an incident in
Wallycon or sexual images of cartoon
characters that are children and
accidentally exposing material to miters
in Chris's private server. Allegedly to
test a bot lollycon
is that are children and accidentally
exposing material to miters in Chris's
private server allegedly. Oh, holy [\h__\h]
I just realized this debunks that he was
testing a bot
excuse. What's the image to test a bot?
Wycon is already subjective in nature in
the first place as people can make the
argument that no. Oh my god. Oh, whoa.
No, you [\h__\h] nut. What the [\h__\h]
Okay, I got to pull this off. Okay,
we're going to look at this cuz I had to
examine it off screen. I did not ex
consent to poorly censored the lollycon
images. It's not a morally gray area.
Please don't like I don't
want Why would you include this [\h__\h]
You know what this means? That she had
those images on her computer and
censored them herself. Yep. Yep. Cecil,
I need you. Or or the editor or the
unpaid editor.
Ah, God. So, this is Okay, I want to
highlight something. All of this is
Okay, I want to highlight something. No,
no, no, no, no, no. Very important. None
of this. What's the name on this
account?
Will DA Games, I'm not going to
highlight games. Ryan, you can go to the
video yourself. The time stamp is 28:42
if you want to [\h__\h] destroy your
eyes. These are also different um
profile pictures if that matters. Yeah,
I don't The thing is is that anyone else
can change their name to that. Give me a
screenshot of the profile with green the
actual allegations. Not only does this
muddies things, it shows that she only
cared when it's personal. Yes. From what
I understand, the green text notifies
mod or high status in this Discord, but
this is not Chris. You You did the thing
where you said, "Well, Chris may have
done this. Look at the lollycon image,
but this is
Will." Would you uh Why would DA do this
in front of my I have the dock link?
Yeah, I I am agreeing with you. DA Games
is [\h__\h] for this. [\h__\h] Will from DA
Games. I'm going to say it right now.
You're going to learn more about Will
from DA Games and I want to [\h__\h]
throw him into a goddamn river with a
[\h__\h] like [\h__\h] tied to his ankles.
But that's not the [\h__\h] point. This
is not Chris, but she's presenting it as
Chris posted this. Listen to it again.
Images of cartoon characters in and
around DA games creating an unsafe
environment. Remember this is about
Chris. This section is about Chris.
There was also an incident of Wallycon
or sexual images of cartoon characters
that are children and accidentally
exposing that material to miters and
Chris's private server allegedly to test
the bot. Wallycon is already subjective
in nature in the first place. I wanted
to be clear doesn't have a uh I also
wanted to be clear that it doesn't have
a crown. It's not from the server owner.
It feels like this is [\h__\h] potentially.
Again, I'm not defending this behavior.
If Will can prove that he didn't do
this, he would have done it because this
DA doc has been out for a period of
time.
as people can make the argument again.
This is not I I had to play it so you
guys heard the audio. This is not
Chris. All right, let me uh uh I will
that these are fictional characters and
not real children. But I don't think
anyone will argue that maybe we
shouldn't be letting children see sexual
imagery. The big problem with that
besides the incident happening in the
first place is that it was never
officially addressed. No apology, no
nothing. But instead the threads were
you [\h__\h] sounds to me worse. Part
two. Will Ryan as a
You should have waited to part two.
Yeah.
I hate I hate sigh. I like you.
Actually, I like you. I hate animation
people. I'm going to be real. I hate the
animation community. I hate everything
around you guys. I like you a lot, but
this is [\h__\h] pissing me off. Why
can't you just [\h__\h] censor the images
regularly? And why do you need to say
lollycon is a morally gray area? We're
done. I'm done. I'm a comic artist, not
an
animator. Fair,
man. This stream is gonna be yellow
long. Yeah. Yeah. Please. Please help
us. Yep. Oh, please.
Here comes the bit I was talking about.
Long. Here we go. Axel, if this does not
hit, I'm going to be upset at you
specifically if you're probably very
upset person. Super the bump gang. Thank
you. think you guys don't have to do
that. That's sad. We love you guys. That
all isn't a big deal. Then child
grooming is bad, right? Okay. But again,
this is now this is Will Ryan. [\h__\h] Will
Ryan. We'll get into this. Okay. So, no
[\h__\h] So, Enter Player One in this case,
the YouTube channel Dia Games. For those
who aren't aware, DIA Games is a YouTube
channel that makes a variety of content,
including let's plays, their own
animation, and fandom inspired music.
The four main current members of the
channel are Chris, Will, Ryan, Cosmic
Key Framer Chrissy, and Sean Webbby.
Okay, we will get there. himself is
problematic for a bunch of reasons, not
limited to dating a minor in 20. Okay,
so we're going to get to this dating a
minor thing cuz I have to [\h__\h] do the
thing that pisses me off the most. 15
when he was 23 and not shady at best.
Here are the screen caps. These are
Will, from what I can tell is from the
UK. If somebody can correct me on that.
is Will from the UK. If somebody can
correct me on
that, cuz I'm about to get pissed off
and say the thing that pisses me
off. Will is indeed from the
UK. Unfortunately, the age of consent in
the UK is 16.
It's not even 17. No.
again. Every UK person I have ever met
says this is insane on Yes. insane on
the [\h__\h] brain. Every UK person
and your person that I know says you you
do consider a person dating a
16-year-old a nod. You don't give a
[\h__\h] You do think they are a n. But
legally speaking,
he the fact is is that he could do this
and I hate this and I hate this and I
don't want to defend this but this is
why does the age of consent ma matter
they are still a minor unfortunately it
it's because she doesn't disclose it. We
are we are setting a [\h__\h] standard
because she doesn't disclose it because
there's worse things that go on but you
do have to disclose parts of it. It's
unfortunately legal there because if you
don't disclose specific parts of
information it's like it does get
annoying because that can be that could
be used as his defense for saying that.
Yeah. She could have literally said,
"Oh, he's from the UK." But you don't
know if this person who's saying this is
in the US where it actually matters what
their age is and doesn't matter what his
age is. Yes. because it doesn't defend
everything
else. There's a reason why you should
you should disclose this. Is this
like uh this is like lawful evil? It's
not Yeah, this is this is evil. This is
lawful evil. Well, no, not lawful evil.
This is legal. Well, if it's within the
law, what are you saying? Again, 16 age
of consent. That's law. That's within
the law. Worse.
Yes, lady. It is legal in the UK. We've
You want to know how that happened?
We're not doing this right now, Ash.
Great. I guess you can be Jerry
Seinfeld. Oh, here we go, Chad. He was
38. I remember that. So, uh, what are
you going to do later? I got a date with
me. There it is. This is sped up. I want
to point out this is sped up. A beauty.
And she's also 17. Bold and beautiful.
I'll tell you the big advantage of
dating a high schooler. If you're going
out with someone your own age, you can't
take advantage of
I suppose. Oh, come on. That's a huge
I'm not slowing it down. [\h__\h] off. I'm
not slowing this down. Hate this. I'm
not slowing this down.
Is it illegal though? Technically
though, we're not talking about like
stat We are not talking about like
statutory things. Also, it wouldn't be
legal federally, just to let you know if
these two people were in different
states as well. Oh, yeah. You can't.
Yes. The reason the law matters is
because KP asks is Yeah. The reason the
law matters is because KP's ask is that
a UK company takes action against Will.
They can't take action against Will
because he hasn't broken a
law. This is
exactly. He doesn't realize I'm a
predator.
Terry. Yes. I've been doing a lot of
thinking. Uh-huh. Well, I don't think we
should see each other anymore. Oh,
that's okay.
What? No, it's fine. No problem. I'll
meet somebody else. Sure. There are
plenty of high schools in New York City.
It's fine. Anyway, it's been really nice
for a while. I'm going to go scope out a
Chuck-E-Cheese.
She'll be coming and when she anyone
that last entirely too long, how do you
feel about that? That was sped up, by
the way. I sp I sped that up for a
reason.
So, fun fact, Seinfeld is also sped up
like at 1.15 time speed. so that they
can cram more uh ads in during re re uh
replays anyway. Mhm. So I think that's
it was so it sounded like how I normally
hear it on TV.
Oh my god. But
um that
was that was awful. I don't
uh in pain. And again my problem with
including that is she is now going to
bring up credible allegations.
Why why did it last so long?
Because why was that the longest bit?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because there are
going to be Can she get a Can she get a
copyright strike for that? No, because
there is a fan dub and and she took the
video down. Yes, she also took the video
down. Yes, this video is down. By the
way, this is an archival site. But
again, in the United States, the age of
consent is set at 16 and 31 states, 17
and 17 in seven states, and 18 and 12
states. But it kind of doesn't matter
because most people defer to federal
law. Yes. Yes. Again, the problem is it
only gets worse from here. And she's now
going to bring up credible allegations
against DA Games that I feel should be
addressed. 18 falls into a legally gray
area depending on what state or country
you're in. But the general rule of thumb
is anyone 18 should not be dating anyone
who's younger than
18. That's the internet law. I looked it
up. Okay, hold up. Hold up. What? What?
What is she saying? The general rule of
thumb is anyone 18 should not be dating
anyone who's younger than 18. Yeah. Uh,
I mean, there's statuto Yeah. Don't
Don't do that. You shouldn't be Hold up.
Hold up. I need to I need to get through
this again cuz there's there's a part
that doesn't make sense to me in this
one. I got to remember this. Oh, [\h__\h]
Chuck-e-Cheese. I don't care. Dating
anyone 18 falls into a legally gray
area. There is nothing legally gray
about dating anybody 18. I'm sorry.
There is nothing legally gray.
as an abuse victim. That messes me up. I
can't imagine how I'd react if somebody
portrayed my abuse in that way. Yeah.
What if she comes out and says I was
groomed? What did you just do? You just
said, "Oh, you're grooming as a
joke." And again, dating I I like I I
understand how people could feel about
age gaps. I [\h__\h] get it.
But 18 is an adult legally. They can
date anybody over any [\h__\h] age they
want. Doesn't matter how you feel about
it. Uh so so FGI, if an eight
16-year-old were to date an 18-year-old
in the same state, then we'd arrest the
18-year-old according to KP. Yeah, I got
it. I believe me. There's a reason why
state, right? Yeah. There's a reason why
Romeo and Juliet laws exist. I've had to
explain it multiple times. cohorts,
specific cohorts within like a same like
[\h__\h] vicinity, not your Discord e-
romance. So like if you're that age and
you go to the same high school, it makes
more sense than if it's like you're just
a G shid on the internet. Talk to
another G [\h__\h] on the internet. That's
weird. Again, she did she needed
multiple revisions of this script if she
was going to do this because this is
insane
cuz again it's not a it's it's not
morally. This is why you send your
script you trust so they can tell you if
it's bad or not. Well, what I've heard
is that this script was shopped around
to people that she trusted. The people
that she trusted were not very good with
it. We'll get to some of the people that
she trusted later
area depending on what state or country
you're in. But the general rule of thumb
is anyone 18 should not be dating anyone
who's again we unfort listen there's
Romeo and Juliet laws. There's a reason
why. But again
than 18 that's the internet law. I
looked it up. Part 2.5 is grooming. But
the most problematic of all of this is
minor straight up being groomed in their
public spaces. Yes, who you'll hear from
in a second was 15 years old when
someone around 19 years old started
sending them self harm pictures.
Censored screenshots were on screen.
It's not a fun video. I warned you.
Stop. Stop. Take this off. Take this
off. And manipulated to break up with
their current partner at the time. This
escalated to
Oh my god. I'm just kidding. I I skipped
it. Flashbanged. I skipped it because
that was a poorly poorly [\h__\h] taken
out
dickpick. Why can't you blackbox it? Why
can't you blackbox it? I take your word
for it. Why can't you blackbox it? What?
What do you expect that the the the
child editor in her sweat shop who
doesn't get paid to actually do
something? [\h__\h] me. I'm going to crash
out. Not even like I lit I have to skip
it. I have to skip it. Like I don't know
this again. This stream is going [\h__\h]
yellow for real. For real.
Lost in Worlds 15 became a member. Lost
in Worlds 15 celebrates one month of
membership. If you're not a teen, don't
interact with teens. Yeah. This is like
Yeah. No, obviously. And again, this is
abhorrent. I want to make it abundantly
clear. This is
abhorrent. Like this is disgusting. By
all means, disgusting. Till was blocked
completely. and how was it handled in
the DA game server? Contacted Will about
the situation who sympath Okay, so this
person contacted DA online will Ryan uh
going on to say, "Hey, uh I didn't want
to make this I didn't want to do this
publicly uh cuz I don't want people to
know the whole Twitter thing is about
me, but yeah, it's about me. I get you
don't want this affecting your image and
the image of the team and server, but
it's bigger than that. You really hurt
my feelings with what you said. I know
you probably didn't intend to hurt
anyone, but to me it came off like you
care more about your image than about
victims. My intentions were never
attention or love. I just wanted to stay
anonymous as much as I could to avoid
that. I just wanted to warn people of
this individual. I get why the link was
deleted. But I feel like you went too
far by putting the whole rant there.
Maybe I was wrong. Maybe I'm seeing that
wrong. I'm not upset, just disappointed
really. But I wanted you to hear me out.
uh wanted to hear you out. Uh I think
there's just better ways to than this
has been going on. Was there uh way
better than every single day pulling up
some rando when all they had to say was
a mean thing and very personal. Bringing
our name into it, our community as a
whole
into something something uh and work at
your discretion. Whatever uh the claims
are uh whatever the problems are, I
would appreciate my name and my image
not being brought into question. People
can expose all they want. Uh but
involving my brand is in this is when in
actuality it involves none of us, I
don't think is
okay. When it comes to major things like
pedophilia uh and whatever is is
excusable for an expose that can be done
without using a brand name and community
title. I just don't see why it does any
good to anybody when the community space
has to get involved. We're all supposed
to feel safer individually. So hearing
they walk among us isn't going to keep
anybody calm and is indeed is resulted
in our community uh falling dramatically
in volume more more than is necessary
more than is needed. Again I'm quite
happy to be rid of most dangerous person
on the people on the internet but I
could absolutely take someone down
without involving an entire community in
the picture. Psever you think you're at
fault with I have the slightest clue.
This was aimed more at people like
Singing Guy and their crew who lately
had been going after several people for
the most quite and personal of problems
involving our name victim. Because this
was a tweet I made on a side account to
address all this stuff that got posted
in the bunker by somebody else and got
deleted by mods. This is why I thought
it was a direct response to that. Will,
I actually never saw that link, nor did
I see the tweet. Uh, I was playing God
of War Ragnarot since 12 hours. Thought
stop. Uh, haven't had time until I had a
break to eat food and check in. Uh,
blank. Uh, why would you like to? I
think it would you like to? It helps the
context. Blank will honestly. Okay.
Blank. Okay.
So it seems like he
was receptive to it. Again, it seems
didn't want the company name involved.
Yeah. Like again, I think that this is a
failing of the company that they were
not addressing
this. They deleted it. I don't know why
the mods deleted it. Could they have
deleted it because it does
contain self harm scars and and [\h__\h]
dickpick and [\h__\h] like that? Yes. and
evidence of grooming.
Yeah, it doesn't excuse their reaction
to it, don't get me wrong, but it seems
like Will personally wasn't involved.
And this then
became, if we if Will could provide
proof because we don't have it, a
campaign to rally against anybody in the
server whom may have caused a slight
that was not related to the original
allegations of pedophilia. Again, I
think that this is very abhorentt way to
do this and to highlight this and to
kind of
like, you know what I mean? Like this is
the problem with having minors in your
Discord every [\h__\h] time. Every time I
have to say this, don't have [\h__\h]
children in your
spaces. Am I missing anything? Did I Did
I Did I get anything wrong? Am I losing
my Am I crashing the [\h__\h] out right now?
I I don't have kids. Don't never breed.
Never delete your Discords. I think the
the standout thing is is him being like,
I don't want the company involved. I
don't want the community involved. Yeah.
And
like I I they they should be made aware
if there are act or the mod should be
made aware if there are if there are
groomers prowling around your your
discords. And
also the community should be aware that
there have been people that are being
kicked out for this very thing and and
to be made certain that nobody that that
the mod and the staff and the team do
not condone that and that they have been
made aware of it and that they've taken
the proper measures.
Yeah, I think that that's pretty much
it. It's like it's like I agree that it
should be addressed. make it very clear
this should have been addressed
publicly. I don't
know. It's there's an issue with it,
right? But it should have been made
mentioned to my only question is did the
victim like does the victim have proof
that they went to these people before
posting on on Twitter? That's my only
[\h__\h] ask. My only
ask. My only ask.
We'll get into it
guys privately but didn't do anything
publicly but like what's accountability
for exposing minor to a predator and
just left the space on his own.
Eventually had to make his own Twitter
thread with screenshots to prove the
account was true. I mean come the [\h__\h]
on.
Okay. I don't think anyone believed the
account. The least you could have done
was ban a pedophile. The bare minimum.
What's that? Let me be clear. This isn't
only Will's fault. It's everyone
involved in the company, including the
people I named before. And I know rent
is a thing, but sacrificing putting
children at risk because you don't want
to publicly speak out about
she's saying that it's not worth their
public image. This behavior and threaten
your livelihood and because you don't
want to go to college is just shitty and
selfish. Oh, you are just the worst type
of person. Next is and his friend Pixel
talking about problematic behavior in
the DA games community and situation at
large. Welcome to the no fun interview
section. All right, so here we go.
person who had professional experiences
with DA games in the past and they made
a document about a year ago. But this is
the DA games document. We will go
through it on a different stream
chat. We'll get
there. So this is Pixel and another
person. They're going to become relevant
later. I brought them on to share their
personal stories in audio form so it's a
bit easier to digest as well as provide
some context to these things and that
these are real people. I promise. So why
don't you guys introduce yourselves?
This is very low chat.
I um was a fan since 2018 until I came
became friends with Will, one of the DA
games owners in I want to say 2020,
2021, I'm not sure. Um I was
commissioned by him in late 2022 to make
a concert out of it, but that's So this
is Will of Daame.
Really all I got. Um well, that's all I
have when it comes to my relation to
him. We were friends, but not really. So
you had a professional relationship with
Will? Yeah, I was commissioned once, but
that's about it. Oh my god. Okay, so
Pixel, what's your background? Whoa. So,
I was a fan in 2018 and 2023 and I was a
fan artist in the server. I did a lot of
general fan art and just general art
interpretations of his stuff and I never
worked with him like professionally, but
I was friends with him during 2023 and
we DM'd pretty often for a couple Okay,
so they
DM'd uh [\h__\h] I'm afraid of being
the wrong one. Blah blah blah blah blah
blah. Okay. Like we talked to VCs and
stuff. How did that start? Did he notice
your fan art and start DMing you or
what? It was kind of interesting. He was
friends with first and other than the D
game server, there was another friend
server that he was in and at some point
the topic of me came up and he was DM
and he noticed that I wasn't on his
friends list and he was just kind of
confused about that. Okay, so it was
just kind of he thought we were friends
already and so it was around early 2023
that I accepted. Why does any of this
matter? We'll become irrelevant later.
Request and we started DMing from there.
I think we officially started a
conversation after an incident with his
friend Enu. She was like harassing for
like this is them DMing a random other
person. I am not reading a bunch of
these. Um, I spoke a blank and it was
honestly frustrating. He's making it
seem like he did nothing wrong. Made a
bunch of excuses to not send a genuine
apology to Will. Don't know about
Freaky. I feel like that's the person in
question. I think Enu Trash Jamie or
Freaky is the person they keep bleeping
out. Two hours and I had that
conversation with Will. I was like, or
maybe not. Who knows? My friend is doing
this and this is what happened and
here's a conversation that we had. And
after that, we just started having
normal conversations. So I guess Will
does this where he'll just take people
from the fan server and try to build a
personal connection. Yeah. Um so so
okay want to make this very
clear.
I if these people aren't minors and if
they're doing work I don't I don't
know not not the point. I think it's a
weird question. I get where she's going.
It's a leading question for a reason
because there's a point to this. Still a
weird question. This second server that
a lot of his friends including cuz it
sets up having a second server which
they should never have had like law enu
um that sometimes just so people get
invited to I guess. Okay. I guess from
what I'm getting at so far is there
seems to be a lack of boundaries. Not
that it's a bad thing to make friends
with fans or anything but I feel like
it's almost competitive if you have like
a server of people he likes that are in
the fan server.
It's not competitive. I don't I don't
Didn't you hire people for free? Didn't
you put three people in an
NDA? I know. Listen, we're splitting
hairs, but like you just don't glass
houses, chat. Glass houses.
Yeah, it's really weird. Yeah. So, what
happened for me was I was friends with
Lala before um before I was invited to
that server. Okay. So, because I had a
mutual friend with Will being Lala, I
was invited there. It was It's So, Will
didn't invite you directly though?
Because it sounds like Lala invited the
both of you and not Will. Need to make
clarifications. God, I hate this. This
[\h__\h] story sucks. Officially Lala's
server, but it mostly gets used for Will
stuff. What is So, it was officially
somebody else's server. So, highlighting
that, she says, "Oh, Will's creating a
competitive
environment." No, the person they were
both equally friends with invited them
to to their server and Will happens to
be
there. Again, [\h__\h] gets more [\h__\h]
after this, but we need to keep the
story straight.
Exactly. Is in the server. Is it just
like personal jokes or a similar layout
to the other server, but just kind of
private? Um, it's supposed to be a
friend group. It's supposed to be a
friend group server, but it really
centered about Will. Yeah, they had this
rule where if you weren't active enough,
you'll get kicked. So, that's LA, but
it's LA server. Remember, it's this
person's server. And if you couldn't go
to VCs, you would have to explain
yourself like, "Oh, I can join BC today
because of XY and Z." And generally from
my experience, a lot of people had to
cater to Will like going back and join
server in general. They used to let
people in pretty generally, but then
they just kind of restricted access.
Like the only reason I got in there was
because she actually invited me in there
a few times. She actually gave out
invites, but it's technically a friend
server, but they have like not official
events, but they do VC a lot. No.
Derail. Fishy. Fishy. No. Fishy. What
did you
do? What did you do? Fishy like days and
mates to generally expect you to be
active a lot. So it seems to me like the
whole point of the server is for Will to
talk to people and get validation. Is
that it? Yeah, definitely. I remember
this one time that me and a friend who
was in there were watching. I think it
was
Will was the most popular person in that
server. It was always made it about him.
Lala lived lives with Will. They're very
close. There's a lot of conflict of
interest. It's a lop of slop. It's a
loop of slop. Holy [\h__\h]
Thank you for the clarification.
Yeah.
Still, my one thing is that Lala created
the server. It was
not like how how do I express this? KP
wants to paint this as Will's extra
server. I kind of got to make it clear
again. I'm with you on that, but again,
and there's also I want to highlight
this. Nothing wrong with leading
questions. In my opinion, it's nothing
that it's we're not in a court of law.
Imagine
imagine how long this interview would be
if if KP didn't get what what get where
they needed to. I guess yeah any any
interviewer should should actually also
ask pre-in questions to f to like set
the mood. Yeah, because there's a
difference between an interview versus
just like a conversation. I think that's
a good way of of expressing it. This is
clearly an interview where there are
there's information KP needs to express
to the audience that we're trying to go
through, but I I'm [\h__\h] grinding my
face against a wall here trying to parse
all this. But versus a a a recorded
Discord call. Yes. So to speak. Yeah.
And we're only doing it for
clarification status because there are
other people who share responsibility in
this. Other people for it was one of the
worst hours of movies. We were like
cracking jokes and stuff. Okay. Uh I
feel I got annoyed and upset
70% every day when Will did. I was
keeping an eye on VC like 70% of the
time. I didn't get it. Okay. This is
somebody else. I'm not annoyed. Couple
people thought it. Just one person had a
crack at it. A lot of us were anxious. I
planned to keep it quiet because I knew
this exact thing. I've had my this I had
to subject my life to so much and one
time I open my mouth makes people
dislike me. It's why I don't say
anything at all.
La. Uh I'm sorry. I'm not. Nah. Sorry.
Sorry, I'm interjecting. Uh, blank.
Dude, I'm not saying that this is a bad
that it was bad that you said it. What
did he say? Willie joined and he got
What did he say? Said because we were
talking over a movie when he didn't even
choose to watch it. We did. I made a
separate room for people to watch stuff.
So, he just got mad that you guys were
talking over a movie. Were there any
minors in the server? Yes. Oh, this is
where I get really mad. No miners in
your server. I can't say this every
[\h__\h] time. It's gonna piss me the
[\h__\h] off. I'm not gonna say names, but I
remember there'd be like several at
least. So, I guess it's kind of
questionable that he made a separate
server to invite mostly fans of his
main.
He did not see, but this is what I'm
saying. This is why it's really
important. He did not make the
server. Lala
did. You don't know if Will invited
those people personally. Lala may have
done that and also seems like a freak.
You have a very more structurally
compelling argument if you show that the
people in and around Will and if the
chatter is to be believed living with
Will is perpetuating this cycle of being
comfortable with minors to the point
where they start making sexual and
inappropriate jokes. This is my problem
with KP. I think KP is presenting
something very
interesting. This is what like is like
pissing me off. This stuff needs to be
covered. It's why I want to cover it
later. And and the uh back to the uh
leading questions portion, this is good
to showcase that KP is want what
information KP wants to wants anonymous
and pixel to get to like the or wants
the audience to understand for or or
however or wants to portray it however
you want. Yes, she's asking she's asking
that Will made this separate when from
the previous information moments prior,
it's clear that Lala was the one
inviting these people.
Yes. And again, it's still
incredibly un like inappropriate and
downright criminal to a certain point in
in my opinion. Granted, these people
will probably never [\h__\h] see any
crimes,
but then you also kind of need to look
at the people in and around certain
things, right? Um, I'll keep playing
this, which I guess is the worst thing
in the world, obviously, but it's things
like the boundaries that are weird, the
rules as far as VCing that are weird,
and the fact that there are minor Also,
I want to highlight something. She
doesn't mind that there's minor in the
server or or Okay, maybe she does. Hold
up. I I [\h__\h] I I did the thing
boundaries that are weird. The rules as
far as VCing that are weird and the fact
that there are minors in there. Okay, I
lied. She does. I'm sorry. I did the
streamer moment thing. Were there
inappropriate jokes and stuff like that?
Yeah, there used to be an NSFW chat even
and like people just shared their games
in there and stuff. I remember this.
They got deleted eventually, but it was
weird like the time I was in there. I
[\h__\h] I'm going to crash
out. I hate this. I hate this so much.
Uh Cammy fight. You're fine. By the way,
I just want I need to highlight it
because this video is critically
confusing. But [\h__\h] these people for
having an NSFW chat with
children. Do
not do not do
this. Oh my god. Just don't have NSFW.
It needs to be 18 plus. If you have an
NSFW chat 18 plus, your server is
immediately 18 plus. You don't [\h__\h]
hide it behind [\h__\h] rolls. It doesn't
work that way. It should never work that
way. If I go into your server and you
give and I find [\h__\h] find that [\h__\h]
out, I'm exposing the [\h__\h] out of you.
Why? Because the ser It doesn't matter.
The role doesn't matter. The locked role
doesn't matter. You cannot do this. Have
we forgotten what the FCK and ACC
wrought? No. Everybody [\h__\h] forgets
it apparently. I'm just I'm just tired
of these like [\h__\h] like weird
excuses for like really shitty
behavior. Like it's just really [\h__\h]
annoying.
Likeay Jesus Christ.
Also, I'm going to bring this up now.
Maybe, just maybe, if you bring someone
on to
your
thing, [\h__\h] me. Maybe don't bring
somebody on who doesn't have the
greatest track record with these
allegations. So, this is
Pixel, the person in this video.
What if I told you in October of last
year
Pixel actually did #standwith
[Music]
will huh really interesting that I can
find
this and that it's still
up. It's almost like doing research and
doing disclosures. Would it have not
been great for Pixel to identify they no
longer stand with
Will? Yes, Cammy. We're going to get to
that. We will actually get to
that. Actually, no. [\h__\h] it. Yeah. Will
posted lollycon art. That's illegal in
the UK, by the way. Having possession of
that is illegal.
That's
illegal. The having that is an actual
crime. I wonder how he's going to react
to that one. Illegal yet pixel. Hashtag
stand
with [\h__\h]
me. Thank you, Shadow.
That just
just it looks like
dumps like the clop block. You're I
[\h__\h] hate you guys. Shadow, you're
the best. But god damn it. Block. Oh,
thank a backwards D. Wait, did you make
this drop or you [\h__\h]
block? I [\h__\h] So, let's read some of
these. Over the past couple weeks, I've
seen certain things brought up regarding
DA. And seeing my previous statement is
continually used, I felt it was
necessary. Hashtag DA DAE # standwith
will because of recent events, I must
speak. In terms of my previous apology,
it appears my words were quite minced.
None of the screenshots were fake. The
issue was not enough context was given
of some of them for some of them.
Obviously, there are behaviors I don't
condone, but taking what I said and
getting it's fake out of it shows the
lack of nuance with these issues. In
terms of writing, I confess that there
were not my full raw words. What I mean
by this is to say the apology was
constructed with mods involved instead
of straight from me. Yes, I I did feel
pressured to write it when I did because
I was in the middle of a college class
when approached. This was shared, but I
pushed to do so
anyways. While I was pressured, I want
to make clear the mistakes of the
previous doc, including personal
information of a
minor, are things I still am very sorry
for. I do not condone Lollcon/Shoda or
anything regarding underage characters.
I do I don't and cannot agree with
hiring monitor minors for moderators. I
cannot continue to watch those words
which were uh sanitized and not really
mine be used to justify those kinds of
behaviors. Yes, we'll let a minor be a
mod. We'll get there.
But I want to highlight this for a
second because previously they wrote
something that they're saying was
doctorred by other people to defend
them and then they're coming out and
saying, "Hey, I actually was coerced
into doing
this." The fandom is large and has quite
few issues. Going forward, I will not
interact with anything DA related.
So again,
maybe you can highlight this. Maybe you
should have highlighted all of this. I'm
not going to read this whole thing.
Remember, if you need a lawyer or
therapist, Falga is both. Oh, no. Yeah,
I heard that too recently. Yeah, I think
cool anime I heard it from cool anime
girls. Cool anime girls said that
recently. I heard that. Don't say that.
Don't say that. There was a group
apology. So this person was a mod. See,
this is the other thing. If this person
was a
mod, they are just as culpable as
everyone else in that [\h__\h] video. Any
links to the tweet? Uh, I I'll put it in
later. Um, because we have a bunch of
links to a bunch of different things.
You are just as culpable as the people
you are accusing of. Again, I am not
saying that this is okay. I am saying
that I'm this person came out. This is
fine.
But like the problem is that you have a
history of not you wanted them you had
them review
it. You had them review everything that
you
wrote. And appears that LA was also
involved. In my original draft of my
statement I wanted to address the manner
and that was presented unapproachably.
He apologized in VC excuse again. If
you're saying that you were in somehow
involved
This came out of
like this is what I'm saying. You can't
like you have to address that your
statements previously were used to
defend
people. I want to believe that people
could change but deleting things as few
as days ago is in uh instead of
addressing them is bad. Blah blah blah
blah. Again want to highlight
this. You should have disclosed this in
this interview. You are using somebody
whose history of potentially defending
will if not being
somewhat
involved in in part of the cover up if
not being coerced to say something. Them
not saying this in this interview is a
[\h__\h] problem. This person should have
been
interviewed separately
and the chat is that was a minor at the
time I think. So this person anonymous
was a minor at the time. Sorry but yeah
it was really sexual and racist and
stuff. Question is KP the same KP that
was friends with the Lee Orchard? Yes,
we will get there. Okay, not off to a
good start. So that seems to be the
running theme with the games in general
that they're being inappropriate with
minors. They make inapp inappropriate or
not safe for work jokes in front of
minors and no one seems to be willing to
The only person that we know who's done
that is Will. We'll get to again. Will
sucks. Will sucks. Will sucks. I can't
say it enough. Anything about it. Yeah,
exactly. Like sometimes they like for
for forever now I want to say they
refuse to even acknowledge that there
are minors in their audience. Yeah, I
remember that when the first version of
Doc dropped, we were bringing up the
point that he was trying to dumping to
minors and talking about things that
younger kids shouldn't be hearing and he
relies a lot on his fan base or personal
support. There's an entire channel on
that server dedicated to just a place
for giving love to the DA crew for and
each other. Please refrain from vents.
Specifically support and the entire
movie server is dedicated by how he's
feeling that day. And yes, I know Chris
Chris Chan was there again. I Chris Chan
can go wherever Chris Chan goes and be
friends with whoever Chris Chan wants to
be. Again, a court has ruled that Chris
Chan is [\h__\h] insane.
That in our document like, hey, he's
trauma dumping. He's talking about all
these horrible things about how to
filter through these people and people
were giving me excuse. Again, don't
trump it up the minors. I can't believe
I have to say that again. This DA Oh,
Panda Slowbo. Thank you so much. Thank
you. Thank you. Yes, I know KP has
interacted favorably with Chris Chan. I
made my stance on it. I don't Oh, what
do like I Chan goes where Chris Chan
goes. If people want to be friends with
Chris Chan, I literally I What am I
supposed to do? Like Chrischan is a much
larger entity than KP or any of these
other people. We we don't like it's like
uh it's it's like fish are fighting for
scraps around a shark, you know? It's
like that. It's like we're trying to
attack a Leviathan that cannot die.
Let's be Let's be like frank. I think KP
is friends with Chris because of their
audience and like their their clout.
I'll I'll be up up front. It's It's a
[\h__\h] assume the same way that [\h__\h]
KP was friends with Lily. It was It was
like an Eldrich creature entered the
chat. I know. I was there. It was
hilarious. I saw it. I was just like
this age when in reality the age range
was like was a lot broader than like 16
17 they were 14y olds 13 year olds in
there the broader range is like from 13
to early 20s in a server and it's unfair
to assume that just because it
waits to have channel in that main
server but I wasn't
and what year was this about I'm not
entirely sure I remember being there
when that channel got deleted I think
when did you guys join the server um I
joined the server in May 2018 and it was
around then I joined in December I don't
know how long it was around like the
server has existed since 2016, but it
may have been around since the
beginning. I'm not sure. Listen, here
here's the thing. Chris Chan, if you
ever want to be interviewed, I'll do it
[\h__\h] live. I have zero qualms about
content for content sake. I feel like
you would be a better interviewer than
Keels was. Oh god, I forgot they did
that. Ah, you know, Gutter from Mars is
Gamer from Mars does a pretty all right
job with it. That's why I said a nut.
No, no, no. I'm saying, no, what I'm
saying is I think Gamer from Mars did a
like a really like all right job getting
all the answers that people want. But
I'm just saying Chris, if you somehow
hear me, I'll interview you. But it was
around 2018, that's for sure. And
another thing I wanted to bring up is
that the moderator the most qualified
to. From what I can tell, moderators
don't go through formal training. Holy
[\h__\h] I don't know a Discord mod that
has gone through formal training. Who
the [\h__\h] cares? Wait, wait. Mods are go
superior training. Oh no, I don't have a
certification. Like this is a Discord
server again. [\h__\h] disgusting.
Allowing predators in allowing miners
and and adults to have access to minor
in your Discord is [\h__\h] disgusting.
But what the [\h__\h] is this? And also if
part of your pixel, remember you said
that mods were controlling your
um you and other mods uh were
controlling your previous statement in
2023.
really weird that you're shoving all the
responsibility on other [\h__\h]
people. Weird.
I was there and he just picked someone
and he was like, "Oh, you should be a
moderator now. You've been a friend for
long enough." And like I said, he's
hired minor moderators. The most recent
one just turned 18 last year. He's
hiding minor mo again. [\h__\h] this guy for
having minor moderators, you [\h__\h]
disgusting [\h__\h] [\h__\h] cool anime girls.
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Yeah, you know, I heard I heard of that
too recently. Somebody told me that way
to go. [\h__\h] me. Hi, child. I know. I
know. High school last year and they
were moderator the entire time in the
server from 2018 to 2023 and I'm 20 now.
Again, [\h__\h] these people for having
minor mods. Again, the DA gate. Okay, so
straight up, if
you if you sans the [\h__\h] uh uh
um if you sans the [\h__\h] [\h__\h] about
Chris for a second and led with the DA
Games stuff and then tied DA Games to
Saber Spark would have been more
compelling in my opinion. The Chris [\h__\h]
is petty. This is it. Like this is so
important that it deserved its own
[\h__\h] video. Not a 2hour video. The
Christian is too personal for KP to be
covering it. Yes. Unbiasedly. Yes. Like
like for sure. But this other stuff is
definitely interesting and compelling.
Yes. That's what I'm saying. They were
younger than me that entire time. And as
far as I'm aware, I heard they were
recommended to someone. No, they got
they got picked randomly. They got
randomly. I remember this. Yeah, it was
weird. They just got picked for no
reason. And they of weird. Yes. So, the
pick random. Okay. Wait. Let me see if
there was a screenshot. Um, there's a
screenshot. I should actually read this.
By the way, I'm
11. XD, you're fine, though. 11 is
illegal in the Discord. It was against
Discord terms of service. Don't do that.
Oh, you can't be 11 in Discord. Run
away. Flee. Escape. Snowy. I'm two years
older than you. So,
13. Sugi. Liel. the the [\h__\h] Will.
But see, I called you I called your age
out higher. You You'd think that kind of
stands out as older than your age,
right? [\h__\h] you, Will. [\h__\h] you. Don't
say that. Don't say that for your age.
You're mature for your age. Again, this
is so much more of a compelling video.
This is so compelling. Why did you do
this? The Saber Spark allegations you
really can't wholly prove the other
allegations is personal. Maybe pass it
off to somebody. This would have been a
perfect [\h__\h] you to DA
Games. I want to crash
out. Will says because you're more
mature. You're another great mod that
lets loose every now and then. I mean,
for [\h__\h] sake, it's okay to do that
every now and then. This is clearly like
a mod wall thing, right? Am I crazy?
This This appears to be a And she's a
It's
2016. Uh I watched I watched a little
bit of the Parlo video. Uh Cammy, I have
the Google
doc. That's all that matters. Oh, hello
Pixel Kitty. Thank you for popping in.
Listen, I I'm going to be
honest. As I said this before, and I
appreciate you coming
out. If KP was going to make this video
using your
testimony, the disclosure of your
previous actions in that server and your
previous response should have been
included.
finding this does c and I don't think it
and I'm being very honest when I say
this. I don't think it casts doubt on
what's being shown because I think the
DA stuff is
important. But finding this allows DA
Games to question your credibility.
Again, what I want to highlight is that
this is a bad video that [\h__\h] up and DA
Games can worm their way into whatever
the [\h__\h] they want to say. Will can say
whatever the [\h__\h] he says because how
bad this video
is. You're We're seeing screenshots like
this for the first
time. Yep. We told her to remove the
jokes and [\h__\h]
[Music]
All right, I'm going to pull the trigger
on
this because I know Kim doesn't like
miners in the
Discord. Let's pull the trigger on
something
chat because I think it's long enough
that I didn't hide it.
About six months or so.
Kim doesn't have a pro has a problem
with miners in the discord, but I wonder
if Kim has a problem with hiring or
having miners work on their animations.
Oh, is this a demon mama glooby
situation? Oh my god. Let's go back a
little bit. Let's go. Cool. The tale of
Michael Bogs. The tale of Michael Bogs
begins about 6 months or so prior to the
release of Dpective. He was an editor on
the team who was very young. Be careful
with those children. Let me tell you
what, don't hire minors. Who did a good
job, but was originally caught lying
about his age at the time. We gave him
pass because he had a clean record
otherwise. He was assigned to edit the
animatic.
You knew he was a minor. You knew he
lied about his age. And you are again.
Oh, minor mods again. Glass house. Minor
shouldn't be [\h__\h] mods. minor
shouldn't be in your Discord and they
shouldn't be working for you. Guess
what? If you don't have legal paperwork
for this minor to work with you on a
project that you're making money on, you
are breaking a law.
Breaking the law. Breaking the law. You
can't have minors work for you. You
can't have minors. What did he get
extracurriculars for his [\h__\h] school?
I'm pretty sure a school will not sign
up on this.
This is like and yeah, it's weird that a
ton of KP me former KP members moved to
DA. Weird,
right? Almost like I don't
know. Interesting.
almost like there's a reason why she
doesn't like DA a lot more than the
allegations that are very credible that
she's leading
with. It's almost like I keep
saying you need to disclose your gripes
with
people before making a video like
this. Let's continue a little bit
talking about your minor editor version
of the Dispective Project and Rough
Animation. But what eventually caught up
to him was his failure to commit to
deadlines when he was working on our
review of a My Little Pony movie called
Equesture Games. It's like the Olympics,
but could he have had school
work? How old was he? Did he have
[\h__\h] school work to do? Was Oh my
Christ. What? Did he [\h__\h] go to
summer camp and he was 16? real
[\h__\h]
You know how ironic I find it that in
this video she's wearing a like mental
health matters shirt.
Well, yeah, because they were attacking
her.
And again, just I'm just saying it's
funny. That's all I'm saying. Why are we
looking at a different video now? KP cuz
it matters. because KP has a history of
having a minor work on animations for
her. That's the
problem. And the problem with that is
glass house scenario. If she doesn't
disclose
this, we find this, it casts doubt on
this entire video with credible
allegations.
That's the problem. This whole
stream highlights the fact that when
somebody [\h__\h] up a video like this,
they go into your history. This is what
we do on this channel. It's what you
guys tip us for. It's what we get paid
by other people to look
through. This is insane.
It's also like, you know, your own [\h__\h]
You know what you've did wrong. Um, you
don't think other people are going to
look into it? You're You are very
incorrect. It's content. If you make
yourself content, people will dig into
the the center of the earth to find what
you did wrong. Yeah. Again, like I said,
we still have an entire stream on DA
Games and Black Griffin of all people
now to look at. I said this and I mean
this. This has been a grudge decades in
the
making. The brony community is [\h__\h] I
hate all of these people. [\h__\h] all of
them. I want them to all go into a
rocket and sputnick themselves somewhere
into the
stratosphere. But this is this is not
okay. Oh, Ash, somehow both of your
names is on screen. Oh, you put Ash at
Eric's Blue. Yeah, just so people know
cuz there's another person they named
Ash in the chat and they were getting
added but they throw this memes like
okay I'm going to just put my my ass so
people know
again that's the reason let's play this
a little bit more because it's going to
come up
with ponies but they're not
ponies I guess he kept on exaggerating
his progress without showing any proof
of progress and even with the final
warning he still didn't Huh interesting
thing. Doesn't this sound a lot like
allegations against Chris exaggerating
their skills and abilities? Yeah. No,
we're we're talking to to Pixel. Yeah, I
see them. Thank you, Abyssal. Um, Pixel,
thank you so much. I don't necessarily
have more questions for you for I guess
this stream. If you want to like and
subscribe, you can do that. We are going
to go over the DA Games allegations and
things like that. If you want to provide
color commentary during that process,
you can. uh if you want to discuss
anything more of how you felt in your KP
experience and specifically how that
kind of did things for you.
Um uh uh I'd be you can type it in the
chat as much as you want like uh no one
is going to attack you or anything like
that. I want to make it very clear while
parts of your testimony can become under
question for things like that. Um also
the shitty Yeah, we Oh yeah, we know we
know we know we know. Uh, again, if you
take accountability for your past, for
the past stuff, and then for stuff you
say in this video, I can't [\h__\h] with
you. Also, you please be of age. I know
it says on your Discord you're like 21.
Just, you know, no miners, please. Are
you going to go over the Sav stuff?
Yeah, we're going to get there. I wanted
to highlight this though.
Finished the project on his own
deadline. It had to be completed by
someone else. So, let me just stay cuz
he's a child. Michael was fired for not
doing his job. You fired a child.
This is, you know, this is uh KP's uh
YouTube sweat shop. Only the best viners
are allowed in this sweat shop. You
fired a child. Yeah, this is 12 course.
I know. We will listen to the tune
critic apology thing. He had a chance to
communicate with us any problems, but he
didn't. He just kind of, you know, lied
and bit off more than he could chew.
Things didn't progress with Michael
until he was under the influence of past
animators Christian and Shawn and editor
the lost narrator. It's also important
to note that Mike here didn't have a bad
experience. He was just doing this
because I guess his friends were into it
or something.
Wait, how old was he? 16. I was gone for
a bit. Axel, thank you so much. 16. You
know, if your friends jump off a cliff,
right? If memory serves, he even wrote
me a little note that he wasn't mad at
anyone for the outcome. and this and
that he if memory serves, you don't have
proof of it. If you don't have proof of
it, it didn't exist. Good. Even
offhandily referencing his trouble with
local police. Okay. Though I did receive
some harassment from the detector
project, the instigator of all this
online harassment was actually magnified
and continued through the use of this
Twitter called Anon KP leaks. Run by I'm
not going to go through this anymore.
We're going to go through the rest of
the video, but this [\h__\h] pisses me
off. She's going to constantly claim
that these people shouldn't have had
mods in their Discord. I mod miners in
the discord. Completely agree. I hate
that [\h__\h] Glass
house. Glass [\h__\h] house. They
graduated high school last year and they
were moderator the entire time in the
server from 2018 to 2023. And I'm 20
now, so they were younger than me that
entire time. And as far as I'm aware, I
heard they were recommended to someone.
No, they got they got picked randomly.
They got I remember this. Yeah, it was
weird. They just got picked for no
reason. And they even told me several
times in DMs when they were moderator
like you should have been it, not me
because I don't know. They part of them
of them themselves as not being capable
enough to be a moderator, but they were
anyway. Yeah, I can get the point of
having moderators being subjective, but
at the very least, they should not be
minors. They should also know it's
actual work and should be okay with
whatever work they get. Usually, mods
are like, "Hey, minor, don't go on the
18 plus chat." Or, "Have a question.
We'll help." The video took so long I
can drink in America now. [\h__\h]
me. Oh, that made me sick to my
stomach. Chad, I'm going to go feed the
dog actual food real quick. If we reach
the goal, she'll get a treat, obviously.
I'll be right back.
I This is annoying. I hate this. So,
it's just gonna be me, Q, and uh go.
I'll I'll be too I'm I'm going to make
myself food. We're I'm strapping myself
in. Okay. I was going to ask you about
Warhammer stuff, but Okay. I'll ask you
when you get back. Ask me now and I can
Maybe I can answer. Oh, yeah. Ask. Okay.
Cool. Cool. Q. Okay. Okay. So, uh Q. Um,
so I got the paints in. Um, I was told I
need to use a medium to thin out the
paints. What do you recommend? You can
use water because those are water-based
acrylics. So you can That's what I was
going to say. Yeah, I'm not even an
artist. I would just say I would just
say water. Water. That sounds about
right. Okay. Yeah, you can you also use
like flow improver or a medium, but um
but the cheapest solution here is just
just water. Water works just fine. You
use distilled water if uh if you if you
know if your like um tap water is too
um mineraly or what have you. Um or like
if your shower head if it gets all like
um um calcified calcified then you know
like that might be too too too much. Uh
distilled water is not a bad not a bad
choice. I use filtered water like my
Bruta filter. I use that. Um but uh if
you get distilled do not drink it for
whatever reason. Okay. My my fiance has
a has um I had to pick up distilled
water every once in a while for my
fiance's a CPAT machine. Yep. Okay.
Okay. So,
I will
my current fascination right now Yeah.
Yeah. Let me know. Let me know.
Is me. I I do not play Smash. Uh, here's
some money for your pain. Thank you for
the five, Pinker. Thank you so much.
Appreciate you. Thank you, Pinker. I
will say my new fascination right now is
a two different things. One is a game
called Tainted Grail. Yeah, I have been
playing the [\h__\h] out of it recently. I
think it's a lot of [\h__\h] fun. And
also, honestly, uh, probiotic soda isn't
that bad. it. Yeah.
What's probiotic soda? Yeah. The So,
occasionally I will just buy random
impulse buys if I like the label. Mhm.
As that's what it boils down to. If the
label pulls me. Uh there I I saw one.
It's called Ollipop.
Oh. Oh, I think I've seen that one.
Yeah. So, it's called Lollipop. And I I
it's one this is one called like crisp
apple and it's [\h__\h] delicious. I
Yeah, I didn't know probiotic soda was a
thing until recently. I didn't know it
was even around. I didn't know that was
a thing either. Let's see. Like I what's
it called? You ever like go to like
Walmart and you look like the yogurt
section and there's like one like yogurt
that looks like almost like a like a
it's shaped like a drink
but it's like
Kefir. Kefir. Maybe, but like when you
drink it, it just tastes really weird.
Yeah, people are like,
"Yeah, that that's that's sigh asshole."
Could tell everyone's an adult here cuz
they talk about off brandand soda. Yeah.
RCA RC Cola. Oh, yeah. Yeah. RC Cola
Rift. All right. Okay. That was funny
cuz we almost actually bought a case of
uh RC Cola because soda was on sale for
$5 for a 12-pack and me and my wife were
like, "Holy [\h__\h] 12packs for $5." Yeah.
All right, chat. I'm going to be on the
the picture for a little bit cuz I am
eating cuz I'm starving. But we're going
to get back into it. Let's go. You just
So, was the minor activity in both
servers the only thing that gave off red
flags or was there any other behavior?
Oh, there's way more. Um I remember um
in the D community there was a lot of um
predators like rumors and such and they
got exposed like monthly sometimes like
every other month there would be another
one and they would never get
acknowledged by the team and it was just
horrible. Um like um this guy got very
personal real quick but at some point I
was groomed by someone in there and I
exposed them like two years ago. Um that
is the server in like I made a Twitter
thread.
I just Jesus Christ, this is not
okay. And I posted it in there. Well, I
had my I asked my my friend to post it
because I didn't want to do do it myself
because I was a public figure at the
time in the community. Um, and it got
deleted like instantly because it was
just drama torishing brands. And so to
summarize, it's not abnormal for
predators to be attracted to online
spaces that maybe make fandom content,
but it's kind of scary when the mod team
is burying it. One of them really got
arrested for having CP in their
possession.
Okay. Uh cuz Pixel Kitty, you are in
here. Was the mod team aware prior to
this regarding this person who got
arrested. Thank you so much. Matic Matic
became a member. Mijatic celebrates two
months of membership. Opus, I didn't
realize I got this saluting face emoji.
Gay rights.
Thank you, Mitch.
Um yeah, there's this one guy that got
arrested for like 34 pounds of child
like Yeah, he was kicked, I think. But
nothing no uh nothing publicity was ever
said. All right, this is going to be a
follow-up question. Was I didn't find
out till until years
later. How do How do I ask this the
correct way? Was any of it ever was any
of their allegations or excuse me
crimes? Was it
ever according to the uh stuff that
happened in your discord or in their
discord? The reason why I ask is there's
a potential I'm giving the lightest of
leeway here that if anything they got
was used in a criminal investigation,
they can't tell anybody.
But I'm just asking to make sure. Black
flower. Thank you for the four months.
Brookflu became a member. Brook Fua
celebrates four months of membership. I
am so lost. I jumped in at the wrong
time. Crying face emoji.
Us too. Thank you so much. Oh. Oh, one
question. Uh uh Q. What was the the
flavor of the soda?
Soda. The lollipop. Oh. Uh crisp apple.
Why? Thank you. I I just I just wanted
to see if I could get like Yes. to try
it. So DA So DA is UK based. This
happened in
VA. Okay. And they were removed. I
mean, this still bothers me that they
hit it. This is part of the problem I
have with this. I don't know how they
were going to address this because they
can't
Iay. How many people are in the DA
community servers? Is it like thousands
of people?
Yeah. How big is DA games? Literally, I
found out about them what 3 hours ago.
I've never heard of them before.
Uh, the internet is a big [\h__\h] place.
Oh, you got to be [\h__\h] me. Well,
have you tried their V vintage flavor?
Ash
2.27 million people.
Basically, if it didn't, as Killjoy says
this, basically, if it didn't involve
the server, there's no requirement to
disclose there was any involvement in
the server. It might be privacy laws
preventing
disclosure. Again, I think we're all
kind of in agreeance that like something
should have
happened, but I don't know if disclosing
it would have helped
because did the people who were groomed
ask for it to be
disclosed? That's the other thing to
like again I do think they were playing
the business politics
game but there's like there's a lot of
unknowns we don't know. It's part of the
problem in the framing of this. Some of
it is some of it is intentional to save
face. Some of it I don't know. It's why
sometimes you don't always talk about
everything in a server but what you can
prove.
Three years ago and I never got a
knowledge about anything either. He was
arrested in 2020. Just got out now just
for possession, not grooming. Well, you
don't get the grooming is not a crime.
It's everything a It's everything that
is done afterwards is the crime.
Prominent in the server. He didn't make
animations. He was really popular and he
was kicked once that came out at the
very least, right? We don't know. We
don't know. There's a pro there's a
probability he probably was. Okay. So,
Pixel Kitty is confirming that this
person was kicked from the server. We
need to make this very
clear that Pixel Kitty is live telling
us that this person in question was
kicked from the server was. But they do
have a thing where like if you suspect
someone being weird, they will
investigate and kick them. But
Tusky tipped $1. As someone who stalks
and consumes lollipop, anyone who drinks
it is based in my books. Now that being
said, when does bread go bad? When you
yeast expect it? What do you call the
horse next door? A neighbor. One bird
cannot pun alone, but two can.
Okay, it's always three. You always have
three. Stop. It's done really badly.
Like from personal experience, it's so
bad. Like I tried to come forward about
my rumor like way before I posted about
it and they were like, "Hey, you have
proof of this." I'm like, "No, I deleted
those chats because
Okay."
Okay. So,
okay. This is the person in question
about the DA leak
stuff. I'm going to be very
honest. If they had no proof of this,
and it sucks to say this and no
discussion, no anything,
how what is the option that DA This is
not even defending DA games. What what
is anybody supposed to do if a claim is
made and there's no like evidence to it?
How do they how do we deal with
it? Like, and it sucks and it sucks to
say that. I need to be very real. This
is why you never have kids in your
[\h__\h]
Discord. But again, the question is if
they don't if they see no
correspondence is just weird. The Anona
groomer was not removed. He just left on
his own. Anan's a groomer. Thank you
again. I I'm with you on that. My
question is how are they supposed to
know if they don't see any evidence of
said
facts. It it becomes the issue. Again, I
believe this person. I'm trying to I I
have to see the problems in this
framing. I don't see that [\h__\h] And they
were like, "Okay, but you can get him
back." I was like, "Okay, how could
[\h__\h] help me?" Cuz I was packing. And
they were like, "You figure it out
yourself." So, you're going to tell the
child in a panic state to just figure it
out themselves or else we're not or
otherwise. You should never be in that
situation and never have kids in your
server. Yeah, he was still allowed to
interact with the Twitter account and
stuff. There's a thread showing all
that. Yeah, we are going to go into all
the DA game
stuff. I'm just highlighting it because
these are the things Kim Kim is missing.
And because Kim is missing this, I can
start poking holes in your
testimony. Holes that are never provided
answers
to. That's the problem. And again, I
want to make this very clear. [\h__\h] Will
and DA Games. You [\h__\h]
freaks. If all this is true, [\h__\h] you
all. You shouldn't have kids in your
server. Period. But my issue is that
without its inclusion, this should have
been three videos, by the way. Without
its inclusion, I can poke holes in the
testimony because I don't see things.
And if I don't see it, it doesn't
exist. Sorry, that's just how it works
on the internet.
We're not going to do anything. It's
really weird. Um I don't know. I'm
getting heated. I'm sorry. No, it's
okay. It's just so [\h__\h] dumb to me
that they don't do the bare or just like
don't have a server that's open to
minor. It reminds me of last year when
he was doing a set list for Momocon and
he has these killer robots. And he was
going to describe in detail how they
kill people. And I was asking like, "Oh,
shouldn't you put a content warning on
there since most people are like coming
for the DA game stuff?" And he laughed
at me. He was like, "No, why should I do
that? I have a song called Mr. Dirty
Balls playing. People should know that
we're not for kids because that song is
playing." And literally the next day he
had to add content warning anyways. I
just kind of like threw up my hands
like, "Okay, you had to add one anyway.
So why were you throwing a fit about
it?" Yeah. He gets upset at like the
most things ever and it's so annoying.
So it's really hard to like come forward
about bigger stuff, too. Were any of the
other team members supportive when you
came forward? Because my understanding
is that when you go to Will for stuff,
he
Momcon is all ages is an all age con. By
the
way, yeah, but your Discord server
shouldn't be for all ages. I'm sorry.
I
like unless you're paying
Momoc. Unless you are paying people to
run your Discord server, and I really
mean paying
people, you do not do
that. Sorry. You just It just doesn't
work this way. Kind of brushes it off.
Well, he either brushes brushes it off
or he sends HR. Um the person that's
that's currently HR um usually will just
go into your DMs and be like yo don't
bring negative stuff to he cannot handle
it right
now Lala dude you got a few sure if it's
not
negative it is a tiny bit depends on
your interpretation it's about the
messages you sent will about feeling
like you turned the conversations of
pronouns sexual and how it's upset
you the blank okay right now want to
come forward on his behalf. And being
blunt, he really can't handle this. I
Okay, I I don't [\h__\h]
Okay, I called Will a charmer. Oh, [\h__\h]
Oh, I don't give a [\h__\h] about you
people. There's no gender neutral or
queer people being
sexualized. Also, again, what the [\h__\h]
is this? Don't have minors in your
server. Don't have minors in your
server. How [\h__\h] hard is this? You
avoid all of these issues. and he never
handled it. So, it's frustrating as
hell. And they just made them HR this
year. Is the HR person a public figure?
Not anymore. They did have a Twitter
account, but one of the gripes I have is
that as an HR person, they live with
him. They're friends with everyone in
there. So, when it comes to certain
situations like yours, technically they
Your HR should not be a public figure.
Your HR should not live with you.
Uh, him and the DA team got removed from
the 2025 mobile guest list from what
I've heard. Thank you, Jen Kino. and not
be handling that because you're not a
usual party. Does she have like a social
presence? Like is she known for being
friends with Will? Yes, to some degree.
Like if to some degree she's public when
like when you go to D's live stream, she
will be there as a moderator. Stinks. Oh
my god. It seems like the Will the
conflict is because he can't address it.
Yeah, pretty much. Okay, so let's talk
about some troublesome behavior you saw
from Will. But didn't doesn't KP have in
her contract that she uses professionals
and they I I'm so tired of this. Oh,
sorry. Professionals get paid. That's
what I'm saying. Hold up. I I'm going to
let it play. I have to get something
because my saliva is leaking. Damn it. I
know we dated a minor in 2015 and there
was a lot of end slurs and a lot of
anti-semitic slurs. Great stuff. Do you
have any antidotes or things to share on
top of that? Just recently someone did
some more digging when they found out on
live stream clip site called like young
people. Oh my god. You left at the worst
possible time. What drove you to make
this document? Was it the predator
thing? Like what was the straw that
broke the cable? Was it the porn site?
It was the porn.
It was
GG's Italian man.
I hate you.
Just put your salad in the microwave
like Diesel does. It'll be fine. We
don't have time, Ash. Ash, we don't have
time for that right now. Okay. I hope KP
suffers. I'mma say it. [\h__\h] it. You want
trouble? I'll give it to you. No. No.
Oh, I I'm not I'm not I don't want to be
mean. Yes. Uh yeah, DA and KP have
removed have both been removed from Momo
this year according to the next public
thing. Thank you. Thank you. I missed
it. I'm working on a thumbnail for my
stream. Yeah. Sigh. We're we're not
doing this.
We're not going back. We're not going
back. Was it back and you just were
like, "Fuck it. We need to write all
this stuff down." Um I think it was just
generally um we were frustrated about a
lot of things. We talked to each other
and then we found about about the SW. We
decided, nope, Disney needs to get out
there. That's pretty much how it went.
We stumbled across it as well. We were
literally just messing around and that's
when we found it and thought, well, this
doesn't look right. And we did some
digging. We were like, this isn't right
at all. So, you went back through Will's
history and saw the anti-semitism and um
there's one point where he justifies
using the nword as a white.
I'm going to say
it. British people are racist.
bold. Truly,
I also don't care about the n-word
usage. Uh, like I don't give a [\h__\h] Do
I use it? No, it's not my word.
No, I'll be okay.
Pixel Gate is not at you directly, but
like when you can't lead with pedophilia
and sharing like hardcore porn in a
server
and and then come back to the oh but he
used slurs. You got to reverse that
order. Listen, I basically I get it.
This is not this not I don't use a I'm
not going to use
it. But again, nobody cares when you're
alleging this guy as a pedophile.
you. Yes. See the chat, you already
know.
And I thought that was really sad. So,
what was the response when released in
the first version of the document? Well,
the first version came out like really
weird. Like we tried to get like fans to
see it. So, we made a fan account and
then like turn it into the release
account. It was stupid. That one went
really bad and like if you can say more
about that, like it affected you mostly.
Yeah, it just went really badly. We were
still fat at that point and we were just
like really heartbroken. So, the doc was
very emotionally charged and it had and
it just had stuff in it in there that
didn't really need to be in there. And
then also after he came out trending on
Twitter, like two mods, one of them was
this HR person came to me and they put
me in like a group chat and they told
me, "You have to fix this." And I'm
like, "I'm in a college class. I can't
fix this right now." But I decided to do
this anyway. And after a couple more
screenshots came out, the HR person was
like, "Is there anything else that's
going on? Because if there is, I'm away
from flipping switches and ruining
lives." And I was really scared at that
point. And rightfully kicked me from the
friend group because I was so scared of
what was going to happen to them. Pistol
Goody. Uh, but don't know that after all
this, y'all are fine with me. I know
that. That's why I [\h__\h] apologized.
You threw yourself under the bus. I
threw nobody under the bus. I don't care
if I get exposed now. I don't have
anything to lose
anymore. All I had was DA Games. I'm
refraining from mentioning either of one
of your names all the
time.
Ah. Ah.
Okay.
Again, like I said,
like if interviewing you ma like
interviewing you mattered, all of all of
this should have been disclosed first.
You all probably also should have been
interviewed separately. Interviewing you
two at the same time is is kind
of Lala has talked about being a farmer,
hinting she might have done some things
which scared me at the time. Okay. Many
such cases. I'm sorry.
Ah, many such cases. Does she also ask
for charity money? Does she have pots?
Many such
cases. Ah, she's going to [\h__\h] kill
us one of these days.
I just ended up throwing at the bus
because I was so scared and under
pressure. Like we changed the password
for Twitter account and everything cuz
we could not have this out. Yeah. And
when the second document came out, I
reached out. Thank you for subscribing,
singing guy. I am also a singing guy,
but this is a different story for a
different day.
again and I was basically confirmed that
was what happened and I put out my
secondary statement on Twitter because
the initial apology well the quote
unquote apology that I made the first
time it went uh it went through those
two people and it was heavily sanitized
and he wanted me to say he apologized in
BC he did this he did that and I was
supposedly there to witness when he did
those things and again we did go through
your apology we'll be going
over this part as well as the other part
in our DA game stream so stick tuned for
that I guess as a result people are
disregarding everything as fake and so I
wanted to make that secondary statement
to explain that nothing was fake and I
was pressured into writing something I
didn't really believe in and then later
those two people would come forward in
private and apologize to me for doing
that so let me get this straight guys so
two official DA games ambassadors mods
whatever you want to call them basically
tried to legally threaten you to
formally apologize or else waggy finger
is that basically what happened pretty
much this H4 person she worried about
being a former Kiwi farmer and like
digging stuff up about people so I knew
she had a capacity to do those types of
things those people on sites do and I
don't want that to happen to me I don't
want that any other people who were
working there I was especially scared I
was especially scared because they will
commission me like what if they save the
packaging, I send his outfit in and have
my address. Like I was scared as [\h__\h]
So I logged you out cuz I could not have
that. So what happened after you
released the second doc? Did anyone come
after you or try to have you
reprimanded? There was this it was
really weird. Like this time it went
okay. Like we posted it on like the
Reddit and stuff and it actually got
some reaction. It was really cool. But
there was also this one person that
either was the HR person or someone
pretending to be the HR person. Still
haven't figured it out because the HR
person has assaulting me specifically
and they just
Hello, it's Lala. Yesterday after your
second round of exaggerations and lies,
Will hurt
himself. Boo [\h__\h] who? [\h__\h] Will.
Remember chat, it's never across the
street. You know which
direction. Don't do that, please. [\h__\h]
me.
That's the fake L by the way. Wow. Wow.
He's a [\h__\h] pedophile. I don't give a
[\h__\h] Go to nons jail. I don't know what
to tell you. I don't know why this
wasn't disclosed. Yeah, that's a that's
a good point. Again, it's like KP did a
really bad job at this.
Yeah, I remember that. It was just
horrible. Another thing is the second
dock. It just kind of inspired some when
they go through the server logs and they
found that people like Chris were going
through and deleting all the racist
stuff that they said and they found
videos and they made like a whole just
going back that that they were like just
going back and deleting things. So Chris
got caught being racist and sexist just
in general. Yeah, pretty much. So before
I move on to
question any of that. We're going to
move on. We're moving on chat. I'm not
[\h__\h] looking at any of that [\h__\h] You
guys give some context as much as you
can from the anonymous Chris story that
you Oh, it's a fake account that was
accused of being me.
Oh god, I feel bad for you guys. So
that's actually my best friend who told
an anonymous story. So this had to do
with her username which had the word
animal in it.
Okay. Then her her name and um so
actually gave them that like
we covered this. Why why did they say
that? Why did they think it was
appropriate to say that to a 14-year-old
they knew was 14? What took me off guard
is that the 14-year-old had met Will
before. Was that at a convention? Yes,
it was mentioned. Okay, okay, cool. At
least that's for Yeah, there's [\h__\h] up
sensoring there, too. Yeah, there's
[\h__\h] up sensoring in this entire
video. I'm pretty sure she docked some
of y'all.
I'm pretty sure she leaked people who
wanted to be
anonymous. And for what it's worth, I am
sorry about
that. I will say this, this is just me.
If I don't hear a call or a public VC
and there's only one person cooperating
the story is very hard to
believe. I apologize, but that is a
standard on the
internet. Again, not throwing the baby
out with the bath water. I think a lot
of these allegations have a lot of
weight against them and it should have
been its own video.
Yes, reminder that KP in addition to
hyping up ex uh how ex excited she was
for this expose also signaled how
emotionally exhausting and draining this
was for
her. Yeah, she did do one
docs here. I have that tweet too. Be
crazy if I also have that tweet, right?
Would be
crazy. Oh chat, this is what I do. This
is what we do for you. We suffer, right,
Greg? Unfortunately, I'm so tired. I'm
so And I'm so drained. This required a
lot of emotional energy for 6 months,
and I'm just so ready for it to be over.
It's all just
sad. I want to highlight everything I
see right now is other people doing the
work for you.
be prominent in as a person in the
community. So, it would be weird if they
didn't know how she was. Is she still
prominent? No, they she got banned and
now she [\h__\h] hates their duts. So, so
the whole team has a controlling
presence with their fan base and on
social media, right? Yeah. Yeah, pretty
much. So, my last question is unless you
guys wanted to add anything else as far
as any general stories or experiences or
anything. So, as I mentioned before, I
was a fan artist and at the beginning of
Iris, I would make interpretations of
characters and we and Will would go on
the chat and say, "These interpretations
give me anxiety because now I'm scared
and not going to be able to live up to
these expectations." Let me backtrack.
What is Iris? Is that a song they've
done? I'm not familiar with their
content really. Life is IDs. Yeah, it's
retool. Yeah, we VC today and made it
clear that this cannot be fixed. She did
not make a proper apology. Like retool
isn't gonna fix this. You can skip this.
So nothing broke. Yeah, no worries. I've
been going through. Yeah, it's a
dystopia thing. There's a lot of
characters, but not a lot of designs. So
what a lot of people like myself did was
like, let's make a design on this
character based on this very vague
description that he had. And people
would also make covers of songs, too.
And you'd get high amounts of
excitement. And in some cases, he call
it the facing. I got caught off. It is a
side note, but this this child continues
to lick my kneecap. I do not know.
Please stop saying child. Please say
dog. Please dog. Dog. Sorry. Dog. Dog.
The [\h__\h] is wrong with you? I know. I'm
sorry. It's the dog. It's the dog. Oh my
god. Oh [\h__\h] It's a [\h__\h] It's It's
my baby. Or fur baby. God damn you.
Yeah, whatever. I just clip. Oh, [\h__\h]
you. Yeah. How about you come on? Huh?
I heard no one else design or anything
like that. And then on top of that, a
bunch of other artists are apologizing
like, "Yeah, we're so sorry we
The Seinfeld bit was originally AI." Oh,
that's hilarious. I don't really care
about that. If she doesn't pay her, she
doesn't pay your editors. Yeah, I can
imagine her not paying. There's
legitimately malicious people who want
everything for themselves. I also app Oh
my god. I don't care. Will didn't know
it's I would suck your nuts. This stuff
upset you so much. I never said anything
until now. and he made it a rule in the
server for a while that you can post
interpretations or you can post covers
with more than one instrument or more
than one vocal track. Guys, you could
[\h__\h] make art of us all the time. If
you go into the Discord, we have [\h__\h]
full spreadsheet character sheets of our
[\h__\h] art. Do it. Please make it.
I'll change that rule. I heard from some
She banned me from the server a little
bit ago because I've also shown that her
friend Courtney claimed victims
were Okay, we're 4 hours in chat. You
need to stay with me because I'm going
to rip Courtney a new
[\h__\h] I'm going to be really fair
about this. I am going to rip Courtney
an entirely new [\h__\h] later in this
video. But that's still in there. And he
just changed the rule back to where it
was before so he can do that again. I
can't get over that because that's the
stupidest [\h__\h] thing. He should be
happy that people are making fan art
because they enjoy the thing. It's like
he's punishing his fans. Yeah, even on
Twitter someone was asking about it.
He's like, "Well, I'll go forward in
making more character designs uh when
I'm sure that they won't be tampered
with." And just a lot of extreme words
or stuff that wasn't extreme. Wait,
Lala's I don't care about this. Again,
again, we will go over this during the
DA game segment and that was devastating
to me. And when I was telling him, you
know, this really hurt when he said
that. He's like, "We don't have a cow.
It's not that bad." But that really Oh,
yeah. I'm a head mod and was called in
to get Courtney to stop. The channel got
deleted, so I can't even show it. Wait,
Pixel Kitty, are you also a
mod for KP or are you a mo or you were a
mod for DA Games? I actually need to
understand where that is. Singing Guy,
thank you so much, by the way. Thank
you. Appreciate it. Singing Guy became a
member server, I believe. Okay. But they
correct me. I I I'm try I'm trying to
double check how what your like part of
the point is the tie like the DA games
like I know that like mods were
interacting with you. Yeah, I was a mod
for KP quickly though. Courtney left
KP's Discord when KP wouldn't let her
fist fight people about the
video. Listen, I'll I'll [\h__\h] listen.
If Courtney wants to come on, I'll
[\h__\h] fist fight her all day. I don't
give a [\h__\h]
It's a 4 hour reminder that we still
haven't hit the [\h__\h] Samber Smart
part. I was gonna say I was I was gonna
bring it up, but I'm like I am I'm Guys,
how long have we been at this? When when
is Saber Spark coming up? Hey, go.
What's up? I'm waiting. We're 4 hours in
queue. We're four hours. Listen, man.
We're going to get there, chat. You
wanted to see all the [\h__\h] receipts
to the leading up of this [\h__\h] video.
I told you we got him. How he felt or
how any of these other people felt about
that. That's a problem he generally has.
Like when someone comes forward to him
about how he hurt their feelings, it's
like it's not that bad. Like bro, you
hurt someone. I call so dumb. It's so
dumb. The child is probably Okay, to
recap. So I was going to say it sounds
like it's pretty bad between the
allowing predators to be in their spaces
and not really doing anything about it
or threatening people who make fan art
or Will dating a minor and Will looking
up child. I remember seeing that because
I thought that was the worst thing Will
specifically had done. And then Chris
just have the behavior of being sexist
and racist too and gross with minors.
So, what would you guys like to gain
from coming forward on a bigger platform
and speaking? Oh, this is a perfect
example. Uh uh uh what who's it? Uh
Pixel, you're here. Was Chris involved
with the covering up of pedophilia and
or involved directly with sending
information like that to
minors? because we've seen a lot of
screenshots of Will sending Lollcon and
like and like [\h__\h] zoo art, but I
need to know I the Sonic characters I'm
not [\h__\h] touching with a 10 foot
pole, calling it Zoo or not. I'm really
not touching that with a 10 foot pole,
but I would like to know if Chris was
ever that was all in Chris's server.
Why didn't she say
that? Why didn't she say that
then? This video is presented so [\h__\h]
badly. If that was in, if Chris was in
charge of the server directly where Will
was sending
things, why is that not in this
video? I'mma crash out. I'mma crash out.
Do it after. Do it after. We got to get
to this. We got four more hours about
your stories. So, my original goal would
be like acknowledgements of this stuff
happening, but like I don't think that's
going to happen, like ever being
realistic. I don't know exactly what I
want anywhere. Like, I just want this
stuff out there. I guess that's all I
can do. What I personally think is Will
needs to take a break from the internet
because this sounds really unhealthy
from a third party perspective. No, he
should go to [\h__\h] jail.
He should go to jail. Having pedophilia
is illegal in his his [\h__\h]
country. What the [\h__\h] Honestly, she
might. No, she never did. I This is the
second or third time I've listened to
this statement. She never She never
mentions that it's specifically Chris's
server. I I'm locked in on this video
right
now. I I am
annoyed. This video could have been so
much [\h__\h] better. She [\h__\h] it up.
Um, this is going to sound really mean,
but I don't. Again, also remember our
Discord is 18 plus. I find out that
you're a minor, you are getting kicked
and blocked. Nice knowing you, but there
are no minors in our Discord. I swear to
God, I understand that this is like a
lot of stuff, but please, if you're a
minor, you're not even supposed to be
here. This is an 18 plus stream. Please
respect that. I don't think he's capable
of taking a break on the internet. I
mean, he went on a camping trip with his
family and he was on his phone and was
in voice calls the entire time. So, even
then when he was supposed to be out and
made sure he wasn't taking a break.
There was multiple times he said he led
Twitter and then he never Yes, I should
also I should also say that the miners
asked to not the miners. Holy [\h__\h] The
editors did not want to be credited.
Christian was only in the chat not
involved in the creation of this video.
I believe someone caught him lurking
because he was pretending to be off of
Twitter, but then like he retweets
something and then quickly retweet it.
He's on Instagram mostly now and even
now he's pretending to like be off my
own Discord. Something I've noticed too
is that people who enable him are
dependent on him. Like the HR person
who's a roommate of his and is dependent
on the channel's income in order to
live. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. Okay.
Okay. Yeah. There were It doesn't matter
if they lived with him. Listen, I I
don't like the Lala person. Doesn't
matter if Lala lived with Will or not.
HR was always going to be dependent on
the income of the channel. Him and
doesn't have a job outside of HR for VA
games. I think we don't know because
they're not a public figure. We don't
have any connection. HR shouldn't be a
public figure. For the love of God, they
shouldn't
be. And I'll be honest, Lala sounds a
lot more like a head moderator than an
HR person. Shooting them anywhere. Can
you imagine living with HR?
Well, I think the only thing they do in
their life is sit in Will's house and
send out angry emails to us. This is
what the kids call an allegation.
Something we don't know if it's true,
but it's based on a theory and evidence.
Yeah. She like she she used to have a
job like as a childare worker, but she
stopped and then she did like art
commission. Yeah. And then she did like
art commissions for a while, but then
she like [\h__\h] up her wrist. So I don't
know what she can do if she has a job.
Sounds like a healthy work environment.
So the only time they acknowledged
anything wrong is when I retweeted one
of the emails a couple of weeks before
this recording and they were like,
"Chris is taking a break. Chris is
taking hiatus." Which I think means
we're going to wait until this blows
over because we're not going to show you
any proof that Chris went to any HR
training. Deadwing Dork called KP a
walking HR person earlier and I think
that's the funniest. I [\h__\h]
I I'mma say this right now. If Deadwing
Dork ever sees this, I would love to
talk to that
[\h__\h] Every time we agree on
something, I like him. Deadwing Dork, if
you see this, let get a let's get a
[\h__\h] beer together if you drink. Did
you just say that cuz he sang along with
you? Yes, he sang along with me one time
and it's [\h__\h] great.
[Music]
If it wasn't for broles could have
handled this
better diaper doodles.
Oh yo, [\h__\h] me. I'm not going out on a
limit. Alleged that he did not go
through any training. Like I said, the
HR person made HR was only made HR this
year. DA is only four people. Even
emailing NDA was was against it. You
guys don't have to reach out Deadwing
Dork for me. I'm just saying if he ever
sees this clip, I'd grab a beer with the
[\h__\h] He seems like a cool dude.
Who's Dead Wing Dork? Uh he's another
like commentary YouTuber guy that
reacted to our Dan's Burst thing. Um and
like we've we've uh we we share
community members. Uh and I know uh
Modina likes Deadwing. Um, and uh, we
share some community like some like
pretty cool community members and I've
seen some of his streams and he's really
funny. I don't know what training he
would have done if there was any. I
think he had I think we had a timeline
down. Hey, we're at 200 viewers. We
haven't been this big in a while, but
thank you guys so [\h__\h] much. If you
guys want to like the video uh, and
subscribe, it' be [\h__\h] awesome. We do
a lot of research here. We do a lot of
critiquing. Uh, we also do like a
variety of streams. Uh, we've done stuff
on uh nuclear like nuclear and hazardous
uh uh [\h__\h] paints. We've done uh
weird uh [\h__\h] uh pedophilia book talk
thingab boobers. Uh I found you very
uncomfortable with the ASMR react
stream. We did an ASMR react stream. I
yelled at a pedophile once and made him
[\h__\h] cry for his mommy.
We came out. You left it at Can you guys
raid yet? Yeah. Yes, we've been raiding.
Yeah, we're over a thousand. At 500 you
500 you could raid. Yeah. And sadly like
when we raid most people are
offline she was saying I got trained.
Like at what point during that timeline
would you be getting trained?
Thank you. And keep in mind for those
who don't remember I had the original
conversation with HR a year ago and I
was feeling antsy because I wanted to
make a video for a while and we were
waiting for the right time and I'm like
this would have been great a year ago.
But ideally it doesn't sound like the
team is even safe to make content
because of their influence around
others. Like Will himself dated a
17-year-old when how old was Will? 22 to
23. Again, this is stupidly legal in the
UK. I hate it. I hate it. I need to We
do need to make that [\h__\h] like that
that statement known. It's not to defend
him. It's an out he would use. Great.
So, when you date a 17-year-old,
regardless, I did scream at two pedos.
Allegedly, you can't. Well, yeah.
You have to go to kick to watch get the
other one. I saved a clip of Deadwing
crashing out on this video. What
happened, you should know better. Like
Chris telling the story, regardless of
what happened, he should know better.
So, I guess we'll hope for the best. I
think at the very least, if there's
going to be any changes, they have to
show proof in a plan or else they'll
believe. You want to know what actually
pisses me off? I'm going to crash out
right now. That's going to [\h__\h] piss
me off. KP, you cannot say, "Oh, I wish
for them to get better. I wish for
this." You want career and life
ruination, stand on business, [\h__\h] If
you want If you want them to not be in
this space anymore, stand on [\h__\h]
business and say, "I [\h__\h] hate their
guts. I hope they [\h__\h] die." Like,
stand on business. Don't do this
[\h__\h] like don't do that. Stand on
[\h__\h] business because this whole
video is I want these people to suffer.
If you want people to suffer, that's
okay. Want them to suffer. Just be
honest about it. Holy [\h__\h] It's
annoying me so
much. It's [\h__\h] pissing me
off. Stand on bitchness is correct.
Oh, I'm so [\h__\h] frustrated. I hate
it. Just stand on business. I think a
public apology is probably a good start.
Yeah, that's that's like that's like the
big thing. Like you would think that
nobody would believe what DA are saying,
but they do. And it's weird. Like even
Lightning Show, they're like, "No, it's
fake. It's fake. You're just haters."
Like their fan base is very Yeah,
they're Yeah, their fan base is like
very um they just really want to believe
that they're good people when they're
the fan bases do that. It's only if you
cultivate a fan base of constant
accountability to the point where you
[\h__\h] up minorly and they like hate you
forever.
Sigh. Thank you. Thank you. KP Karen too
close to the Oh my god, this is so
[\h__\h] stupid. You're literally I
can't because Lord knows why actually.
It's because he built up a parasocial
relationship with them. It's real. True.
Even with the lolly thing when we told
people about that
Why did you show it again?
[Laughter]
You know, like when I when I want to
talk to victims, I'm going to I'm going
to just show off elicit materials cuz,
you know, that's totally a an
appropriate thing to do when talking to
victims.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait. I need to know something. I
Okay, I need Pixie Pixel Kitty, I need
to ask you a very [\h__\h] real
question. Did she get those
uncensored? Did she have the Are those
the screenshots uncensored? Did she
censor them herself?
You've got to like you
can't you you can't tell me
otherwise. Are those Did she get those
uncensored? Okay, those are for the doc.
Okay. Okay.
Okay. If you make a doc like this again,
please censor a thousand times
better. You're a 27 year old telling his
telling you all his deepest deep deepest
secrets and stuff and all his childhood
traumas and you feel closer to him and
on top of you have this whole dedicated
to just uh thank you for 100% of the
will taking care of me. You're such a
light. I don't know who this enigma
person is. Who are all these people?
None of the Okay, I'm going to be
honest. None of these people
matter. None of these people matter. She
realized her audience was falling
asleep, so she flashed the corn emoji.
[\h__\h] me. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
you. Thank you. Just giving him support.
You're encouraged to look at his Discord
status and see what state he's in. Yeah.
Th Yeah, this doesn't matter because
what you're doing is just highlighting.
We believe you when the public reception
is
um they like their their audience
believes
them. It was uncensored in the first
guys.
No [\h__\h] guys.
But she was like, "No, I have to what?"
Wait. Yeah, because there was because
there was two docs. There was the first
doc and the second doc they made to
delete the YouTube account because he
was feeling bad and when you're put
through that no you want to feel like
this person can't be bad. I did all this
for him or I went through all this for
him and I'm sorry I'm getting really a
bit heated here because again I went
through all that and it's such an
emotional journey thing to go through.
It's like no, you shouldn't be doing
this to 13 and 18year-olds. You
shouldn't be No, you haven't missed this
spark stuff because we're not there yet.
We're still close enough to it. Oh,
this is what I mean by this video is
really, really bad. Thanks. Like, I'm
literally my YouTube channel where,
yeah, when I was bullied, I got my head
bashed in. Yeah, exactly. Like, the
worst example I remember is I think that
he was he said in his Discord server
that he was going to kill himself
because his fans were so [\h__\h]
annoying. You should have. I don't have
proof of this. Sadly, I remember seeing
it.
If you don't have proof of it, don't say
it. I'm sorry. You can't. Please don't
say it because he can deny and say,
"I've never vented like that to my fans.
I vent about person like like [\h__\h]
but not like this." Just don't say that.
This is still This is also on KP for
leaving it in. Yes, it's on KP for
leaving it in. Great. And then Chloe had
to come out and say, "No, guys, he's
fine." And then he just like he never
deleted it afterwards and he didn't kill
himself.
Okay, there we go. Okay, that's
different. You probably should have led
with that.
He's okay. He posted several times like
while he was in a hospital as well.
Yeah, I remember this happening when I
just was a fan like when I like 2018,
2019. This is happening all and I fell.
No. Sorry. When are we getting to the
Sabers Park factory?
Another half hour.
Another just knew him for like 4 months.
It was super close and now I understand.
Okay. You want to know where the Saber
Spark stuff comes in? Here is
everything. We
are an hour and 13 minutes in. Oh, an
hour. The Saber Spark victim testimony
is an hour and 28 minutes in.
That's how [\h__\h] far we are. Oh, Lost
Coyote. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I support a 3/5 THX compromise for where
their vote is only worth 60% of my vote.
Time to feed that dog so much. It's time
to feed that dog. It's time to feed the
puffers. It's time to give her treats.
It's time to feed the dog
now at the uplock stream tonight. Yes,
chat. You know what time it is. It's
time to feed that dog. Oh, she's right
there.
She's looking at you. She's like, my
treat. Where's my treat, father? Good
girl. She's gotten a lot of them today.
Thanks to you, chat. If you want to do
it again, you know what to I'm going to
set the goal a little bit higher this
time. If I could share my cat, she's
sleeping on the the uh bookcase.
Chat, it's time to feed that dog times
three. We're going to thank you guys
very, very much for every tip that you
give. Every tip you give to this channel
goes to our artists, our editors, and
all the other people that make this
channel very, very powerful. And more
importantly, it goes to dog
treats. Do I do I dog treats now? Dog
treats are now attacked right
off. [\h__\h] me. That's funny. There's
Pippy. She's on the That is so [\h__\h]
awful. On that note, do you guys have
any advice for people that are kind of
in similar shoes that you were when you
were finding all this stuff out? Talk to
people. Talk to people. Like, you're not
alone going through this. Like, please
talk to people. Even people that are
still fans, like, talk to them. Uh, it's
okay if you don't feel okay going
through this because it's [\h__\h] hard
having to sever a connection that feels
so close and personal. Who is someone?
Go to the police.
Go to the [\h__\h] police for the love of
Christ.
Tell an adult when you say talk to
people. Please go to an adult that you
trust. Don't go to the other Discord
kittens. Go to an adult that you
trust. I Oh my
god. Yes. And don't go to KP. Whatever
the [\h__\h] you do, go to an adult that you
could trust so you can report it. Please
tip the authorities. Oh my god. I want
to [\h__\h] explode. If you have
allegations, don't put them on the
internet. Go to the adults and police.
Yes. Go to the eye of the internet can't
really help you. They can just like
treat you like [\h__\h] or just tell you,
"Oh, man. I feel bad for you, man."
Rain. Uh uh Rain. Uh but more
importantly, the National Centers of
Missing and Exploited Children, you
could also contact and they can get on
the ground services with police
officers. Oh god. First you say no, then
you get out of there. Yes. Don't tell
Mama Max. He'll spenser you up. He
Listen, Mama Max, uh, real talk, Mama
Max is a feeder. That is the kink that
Mama Max now has.
I don't want to think about that. Turns
out to be a terrible person. Like, it's
okay to feel bad. It's okay to feel sad
for things you lose. Yes, this is fine.
It's okay. Please go to Please go to the
authorities for the love of Christ who
like just talk to people. One of the
driving factors that led me to become
friends again is that I talk to someone
about everything that happened and I
suggest just to talk to people who are
outside of the server, go to different
servers, just know that this isn't a yes
because the police have a wonderful
track record of helping victims. I don't
give a [\h__\h] what you
think.
Alex, do you want to know something
crazy? These people will continue to
abuse other children. They'll go by
another [\h__\h] different Discord name.
Go to the authorities. Go to the We've
literally discussed two people, two
groups, RAIN and the National Centers
for Missing and Exploited Children.
They're not the police. They have people
who who literally are volunteers. Are
YouTubers your best solution? I'm sorry.
Listen, I don't like the pedal hunter
[\h__\h] I've said this openly. You need to
create police
reports because if nothing
else
like like they're not facing legal
ramifications on the internet. They're
just getting [\h__\h] life
rumination. I've literally had Yeah. I'm
about to say like Laya Knight said this
is coming from a survivor. I've had like
people who have come to us talking about
it who have been like because because
we've talked about this. We we had to do
it one time here on this
channel. Um I agree with the about the
organization, but the police hardly
help. But that's why we literally
mentioned
them. Even if the police have a terrible
track record, it needs to be a paper
trail. A lot of the Okay, so a lot of
these things need to be paper trails.
This is not how things are supposed to
be. Like I talked to a friend who had
nothing to do with DA or anything, and
they were like, "That's not normal.
That's not something that should be
happening on a regular basis. Yeah, I
think that's a good note to end on.
Therapy's good, guys. All right. Well, I
guess on that note, we can end. Thanks
everyone for Thank you for the therapy.
I love you. It is like it's so messy
right now. Like, aren't the subreddit
currently like censoring
NeoAva? Thank you so much for the
Canadian F feed that dog. Thank you.
Thank you. Yes. Like, obviously talk
with your friends if you feel like
something's going on and you feel very
uncomfortable. That's usually the first
place that this starts. But you need to
talk like if you're a child, please talk
to a responsible adult that you
trust. You can get law enforcement
involved if not like other resources so
they could investigate this. That's like
the whole
issue. Yeah. Is this going to lead to a
trial or an arrest? Yeah.
Words. You cannot say the number 11
anymore. [\h__\h] like that. It's stupid.
And if you try to post anything without
context, uh I was trying to post context
of what was going on earlier and they
just deleted it immediately. Yeah, they
nuke it instantly. Like I know B from
Reddit. As someone who took a media
literacy course, this is not how you do
with backlash. You apologize. Oh my god.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like throwing your
minor editor under the [\h__\h] bus. Like
[\h__\h] putting Seinfeld jokes in a
[\h__\h] video about rape and
pedophilia. Yeah, really. That media
literacy course is working real well,
you idiot. You [\h__\h] [\h__\h] Again, I
don't hate KP. I actually really
don't. What the [\h__\h] are you saying?
But it's kind of hard. Just what the
[\h__\h] It's like, again, I I try not to
be mean. Like the stream so Sabersport
can appear. I swear to Christ if another
huge YouTuber [\h__\h] appears in our
chat when we're covering stuff about
them, I will crash out live again. Yeah,
you crash every day. Yeah, you crash
out. Find miners and predators in the
same space and you haven't really done
anything about it. Um, these are really
serious issues that aren't like a
oopsie. So, no, they're dealing with
with it so badly. Like, it's
embarrassing for them. I know. I heard
through a mutual friend that they
originally weren't going to say
anything, but they didn't see a reason
for it. They were like, "Oh, there's no
reason for it. It's going to go away."
All right. Thanks everyone for
listening. Yes. Thank you all. So,
there's three players in this
Shakespearean tragedy. Chris, a former
member of my production team who made up
this gross story about me. His first
boss, DA Games, a YouTube channel run by
Will Ryan. And his second boss, another
YouTuber named Saber Spark. How is Saber
Spark involved in that [\h__\h] What?
What? What?
How is Saber Spark involved in DA games
at all?
How? You know, Val, I used to think you
were seeing patterns, and I'm really
starting to feel the KP seeing patterns
that don't exist. You [\h__\h] I'm
gonna [\h__\h] throw out my salad. I'm
losing my I'm [\h__\h] losing my mind.
Microwave your salad. Did you microwave
your salad? Yeah. Now, now Ash, the time
is now. Bring up the salad. No. Yes.
Yes. Yes. Okay. So, uh, Hal revealed to
Q that Diesel microwaves his
salads. FPS Diesel microwaves his
salads.
It was all point.
Yes. And I I have put in and Diesel
probably doesn't even know that I added
a new emote. No, he knows he he uh in
the the VIP or uh in the Diesel Discord.
He he he posted the sticker. Okay. So,
the sticker is uh made by Cat and it is
a
microwave with a salad inside of it and
a shoe on top of it.
Yeah, the joke is crazy. Showed up in
the Mama Max video. He would eat a shoe
and now we need to eat a shoe. That's
true. That's true. All right, let's
[\h__\h] I'm going to [\h__\h] I'm getting
pissed
off. How is Cyber Smmith involved? Cyber
Smmith. Oh my god. Sabers Spark. Oh,
Cyber Sith, come back one day, buddy. I
miss you. Okay. Okay. He he Okay. Diesel
said there was chicken, but like why
don't you just like put the chicken? Is
Diesel short IRL? No, he's by a height.
We're both like 5'8, 5'9. He's short.
Misk will not Nazi racism and
anti-semitic memes. There's also um
racist and anti-semitic memes. It never
ends here. Part three. How memes.
There's also um racist
and anti-semitic memes and never Oh,
Adam Sandler's anti-semitic Christmas.
I'm sorry. What the [\h__\h] is it funny?
No. Did I giggle when I saw it? Yeah,
cuz it's kind of insane, actually. What
an insane thing to write. [\h__\h] Adam
Sandler's anti-Semitic. Oh my god, it is
Cyber Smith's birthday today. That's
right. How did you know that? Happy
birthday, Cyber Sith. Because because I
saw somebody post it the other day. For
those who don't know, Cybermith is the
human pet guy. Uh, in the infancy of
this channel, he actually [\h__\h] raided
us. And we had a lovely interview with
with him. And by lovely, he's still
crazy, but I love him for it.
There's a an edited uh version of the
video. Yeah, the human pet guy. I I
[\h__\h] interviewed him live. He tried
he tried to fight us live and I never
thought we were He thought we were a
political gotcha him.
Mhm. Do you know he still ats me every
time and I just say thank you and he
likes the post.
I love your best friends. I know. Oh
yeah. That's why I'm wearing my Star
Wars. You need to help him find him.
Find him a a dream lady. No, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no. It's either a fem
boy or a trans woman. Fakes and he needs
to be a catch. I'm just saying Cyber
Smith needs to find the most
outrageously racist and bigoted trans
woman. They do ex They're out there.
Blair White, Briana Woo. My god, if him
and Briana Woo hooked up. No, it would
be Briana Woo is perfect for him. As
long as Bri No, I was I'm not going to
say it.
Chris works for DA and Sab Park. I'd
still including Saber's Park. Thank you,
singing guy. We do know and she does
like highlight it, but that's part of
the
problem. I was but to be fair. Oh, yes.
Cybermith has famously said on Twitter,
"If you can market trans titty milk that
trans identity would be more socially
accepted." I am not [\h__\h] kidding.
You know, whenever Chris has said, "I
just keep on thinking Chris," and I'm
like, "Wait, no, wrong Chris." That's my
brain just keeps on going to that. Yes,
we do know. So, we were in the chat for
those who are coming in late. We were in
the chat. We know Saber Spark was
supposed to be was added last minute. We
know specifically that he's only added
because of the Chris connection. Never
ends here. Part three. How DA Games
handled the Chris situation badly. Back
to the Chris situation. The DA Games
team first responded to the situation
privately in November of 2023, citing
the issue had been resolved to their own
satisfaction. Also, wouldn't that be
nice if we know where this email is
from, not you posting it last year.
Would have been crazy if you posted this
recently, like with a date on it. And
that Chris didn't work for them at that
time, even though there's proof that
suggests otherwise. And that
I a member of the general group of
people who frequently hung out. Blank
was my main connection to the group in
2015 and Chris and Will would frequently
be in group calls with Blank with me and
Blank. I wouldn't be surprised if Will
heard it, but I can't say with 100%
confidence that it's been a long time,
definitely more. Again, this person
can't say it in like
confidence. We'll get there. Ryan was
likely in the room to hear the story
recounted at least once. They continued
to lie about my legal rights and
basically put pressure on me to stay
quiet about everything. We'll show you
those emails in a second. At a last
ditch attempt, Dia Games attempted to
send
me the game sent you a cease and desist.
Lady Lee, your first amendments don't
rights don't matter when it comes to
like a lawsuit.
Could it have been because
they they best part they cited a lawyer.
I called the office. They had no idea
what I was talking about. Get rucked. DA
lames. Okay. I don't know. So, I heard
about the fake lawyer allegations from a
credible source. I don't know how true
they are. I will say that if that's
true, [\h__\h] you, DA Games. But again, KP,
they're sending you a cease and desist
because they offered you private like
private information. Your lawyer said
[\h__\h] off. Well, you told your lawyer
that you weren't going to do it and [\h__\h]
them. And then they would send you a C
and D because you have private
information about them doing internal
investigations on another employee that
maybe he doesn't
know. Yeah, you showed an email related
to the lawyer. Yeah, exactly.
Me a cease and assist. So, we're going
to go through some highlights of the
emails here, but feel free to pause the
video and read them for any contacts
that you'd like. Hi, Matilda. I was told
to contact you regarding the efficient
Chris case. Many months later. Hi,
Matilda and the DA games. It's been 3
months since I last reached out and I'm
disappointed in the lack of urgency. I'm
reaching out one last time, discuss the
issue and sell her privately. Hi KP,
thanks for your patience. Chris informed
us that the recording between you and
him was not consensual. Nonetheless, we
listened to the record. It wasn't. It
actually wasn't. That's correct. And
have determined that the two of you had
already reached a resolution. You will
allow the actions of the past to be
forgotten and forgiven. It is also our
understanding that all of this took
place before Chris was an employee. I
would love to hear the full call because
it did sound like she was like, "Okay,
I'm mad at you. I will never speak with
you
again." Yeah, both are in one party
states, by the way.
[\h__\h] god damn it. Like, well, if
they're in one party consent state,
that's fine. Again, just like be very
careful. Employee of DA. Hey, singing
guy. Thank you so much for the five,
dude. Thank you. Thank you. DA also made
a rule in the Discord server on April
19th to not talk about the allegations
to both Will and Chris or people will
get warnings.
Thank you. Thank you.
Uh people do that. Actually, to be fair,
I could be mad at DA Games, but
specifically I remember in the Naomi
King uh what the [\h__\h] was the guy's
name? Uh Daniel Green. Daniel Green
stuff. They did tell people if you talk
or ask about the allegations you will be
banned. That is all that's usually done
for damage control and not people adding
to the narrative. Do I agree with it?
Their Discord server. They can do
whatever the [\h__\h] they want. Well, the
thing was it's suppressing information.
That's the problem. I'm in Daniel
Green's like Discord server before like
all this happened and the mods basically
create a new Oh my god, it's Lazy Bed
Head. Holy [\h__\h] You're right. I'm
sorry. I'm sorry, Ash. This is the
person that put out the Black Griffin
video. I'm sorry, Ash. I didn't I didn't
It It hit. It's okay. It It It clicked.
Oh god. Honey, you you're so much better
than this video. Oh my god, she's so
much better than this
video. Like, her videos are really good.
I will say when
um Naomi Keane put out her video, it was
very much a blood bath in that Discord.
Yeah.
And uh a lot of mods made or a
contingent of people made their own
discord. A lot of people like joined
there and left his
apparent. Uh, another thing that did
happen is that uh the [\h__\h] mods
removed like a lot of Daniel's
permissions and he had to like Yeah. He
got upset and had to like tell them to
give it back to him. Yeah. They were
like, "You don't know if this is true.
You're [\h__\h] Wait, she shout I never
finished the Black Griffin video yet.
She shouted them out." Oh, great. I will
Okay, so I'll say
this. I can understand them not knowing
to a degree. I'll be very real with you.
Black Griffin. Sorry, Lazy Bedhead made
that Black Griffin video. She at least
knows the connection to other people.
She would have done a lot of research.
The further I get into this video, the
more I'm confused about who knew what.
The person who read the disclaimer
probably knew jack
[\h__\h] But everybody else, I
I they stuck their name to it. That's
all I'm going to say. I'm not blaming
them, but they stuck their name to it.
if meaning that he was not under
contract at the time of the incident.
Therefore, as a company, we do not have
the jurisdiction to punish him in this
situation. God, she [\h__\h] took down so
many people with this in a weird way.
Like, none of these people's careers
should be affected in my opinion. Even
KPs KP should get [\h__\h] slapped around
for it, but like I don't think she
should get off the [\h__\h] internet. But
like, this is wild.
He has not breached contract. I'm
disappointed with the lack of action
taken regarding these issues and your
lack of alarm in terms of how it
reflects upon your company's priorities,
values, and internal culture. Also,
regarding the recording and Chris's
statement, fact is whether or not Chris
engaged in the activity, he openly spoke
about doing it allegedly in calls
involving his co-workers post having his
position within the company and after as
late as 2019. This is highly
inappropriate, morally unacceptable
language to use when conducting
oneselves around co-workers, much less
when it's attempt to convey approval
from peers and a superior by presenting
himself as a
hot take. Well, you I'm sorry. His
consent. No hot take. It doesn't matter.
They wouldn't fire him over it. Here's
the Here's like the actual hot take that
you guys are not going to want to
hear. If it didn't happen while he was
actively working, nobody gives a [\h__\h]
Yeah, that's also that
like this is going to be the hard take
that I'm going again. All this should
have been in the beginning of the video
comparison, but like All of this should
have been at the beginning of the video.
If a priest is at one parish and he gets
sent to another, that's all that's all
we
say. But I I like I'm going to be I'm
going to be honest. Like Chris and Will
are best friends. They bought him back
after a few again. I
I How do I How do I say this very
kindly? They're not going to care.
They're not going to
care. They should, but they're not going
to. KP should have included this in the
front of the
video. KP should have included this in
the front of the [\h__\h]
video. This would have been great to
include in the Chris section.
The sexual harasser if he was bragging
about sexual miscond. Uh, Fresco, since
I see you asking, DA Games specifically
will is sexually inappropriate in and
around
minors things around the server. Uh, uh,
clearly uh, grooming and pedophilia took
place in their
server. Whether they should have made it
public or not that [\h__\h] like that was
constant was going around in their
server is up to your own discretion if
you feel like it was it was it's
warranted or not.
The reality is
is this is why you don't have kids in
your [\h__\h] server. At the end of the
day, I do not care. Sexually
inappropriate around minors in in what I
mean in and around. I mean in proximity
to and around
conduct involving a minor, would that
change your response? Because if the
answer is yes, you should be taking this
seriously because sexual harassment is
sexual harassment. because he was in
their presence as around as constantly
doing it and putting things that even if
the miners were there or not weren't
there.
Oh, Pixel, since you're here, the
lollycon and other stuff, was that
specifically in an NSFW
thread? Because I remember you said that
there was
one or an said that. Were those things
in the NSFW
thread or is that in public spaces? That
does actually
matter because this also goes to my
thing is that you should never have an
NSFW thread that's locked if you have
minors in your
server. To employ Chris, you not only
condone his behavior, but actively
encourage it within your workplace
related settings. At this point, it's a
matter of safety for myself and members
of our communities. and me attempting to
handle this issue privately is a
courtesy, one that seemingly is not
being honored and in fact dismissed. If
no satisfactory result is brought about,
I have no problems going public. We will
review this case again. We will be doing
a Black Griffin episode chat. I have the
document. We're going to be going over
the document, the history of Black
Griffin and all of those things. That
was in Chris's NSFW part of the server.
DA did have an NSFW channel in their
server that got taken down in 2020. So
the So we have confirmation for
Chris. I just I
I
[\h__\h] I'm pissed for a variety of
reasons.
Um that needed to be disclosed that that
was in an NSFW chat that should have
been locked from
miners. That should be disclosed again.
Yes, because the minor mods I know that
actually needs to be
disclosed though because an excuse is
going to be oh well my we don't know why
this is this person's problem because
this errant mod did this. I didn't know
there were minors there. It's supposed
to be a locked
channel that that that needs to be
exposed. That needs to be disclosed.
We disclosed it, but it wasn't mentioned
in the vid. [\h__\h] Christ. I hate her.
Our issues I hope this comes off, Pixel,
the issues are not with you. The the the
structure of this video and the script
is
infuriating because those are really key
detail. Okay, those are really key
details because if Will and or Chris
ever come back and they're they want to
address these allegations, they can
address KP's video and not the document
you
made because KP is the larger person and
they'll be like, well, she deleted this
video, but let's address the deleted
video. And if they're able to address
the fact that they were like, oh, we
didn't know a minor mod was there. Oh,
this person did this. This person did
that. We didn't allow them in there.
They can go in and attack
that. Oh my god. I
[\h__\h] decide on appropriate
disciplinary action. This will be
handled internally and confidentially.
Of course. We would like to state that
we do not represent Chris in any Trevor.
I just I love you, dude. I don't know
what the [\h__\h] we're doing anymore
capacity. DA Games as a company does not
tolerate threats of defamation or
liable. If you go public, KP will be the
scapegoat if these allegations don't
work. We have the right to pursue legal
action. We will share the results of the
investigation with KP, but only on the
condition that she signs a
confidentiality agreement. Part four,
how Sabers Spark handled the Chris
situation badly. Next is YouTuber Sabers
Spark, who primarily makes animated the
theme content and generally seems not to
care about the situation unless he's
listed as employer of Chris. I
originally contacted Saber through his
staff. To be frank, let me know if
Steven will take this seriously and we
can go from there. I already told them
it's coming down the pipe. He's talking
to blank about it since he's currently
working on a video with Chris. That's
all I know right now. No. Is there
something specific you want Saber is
slash isn't going to do? If he's going
to take action or not that So, this is
really
important. If I'm understanding this
correctly,
KP, this is
2023. Oh, it just [\h__\h] hit me. Oh, it
just [\h__\h] hit me.
This is what she found out about um
about Chris about what Chris is saying.
This is about what Chris was saying.
This was never She didn't include the
stuff about TA games. She's framing it
as if she [\h__\h] knew about the DA game
[\h__\h] before
this. I'm going to I'm going to scream.
She's framing this so disingenuously
because all he knows is that he [\h__\h]
made a terrible joke that he has
apologized
for. No, but you don't understand. She
said that, but that's the problem with
the framing of this video.
If I'm watching this
video, I am assuming
that they also know about the DA games
because she set up the video this way.
Yeah, we we talked about Chris 45
minutes ago. We spent the last 45
minutes talking about DA. Yes. So, when
you circle back to Chris, it looks like
you're referring to Will DA, Ryan. Yes.
Yes, that's the dis like you have to
understand that this is purposely framed
that way. That's kind of the whole
point. And here are the Discord messages
to prove that. I hate it here. There
were talks of a hiring change and I
assume Chris was terminated from working
with Steven due to that. Cool. One less
thing to worry about. Then it got worse.
Turns out nothing happened.
Uh, you don't know if anything happened.
These are the same messages.
Cool. Oh, there's a big surprise. I
tried following up but never heard
anything. Cut to November of this year
where Steven is mentioned in that email
asking for an NDA to look into the Chris
issue. This eventually escalated into a
public spect when I share the NDA.
I [\h__\h] hate when it does this. You
put up a giant thing. I need to see what
that is mentioned in that email asking
Yes. for an NDA to look into the Yeah.
We also wish to clear up the point of
confusion. Okay. Okay. Okay. We we read
this. We read this before. This
eventually escalated into a public
spectacle when I shared the NDA email on
Twitter. One of the people in that
thread tagged Steven directly and then
thanks for the support guys. It's
emotionally draining, but I feel like
being critical of online spaces,
especially when you try to solve things
privately. Yes, because he wasn't like
his involvement wasn't supposed to be
included. He may have not okayed a third
party to to say that as
well. That's the other thing too. He
wasn't supposed to be included. First is
important. Were you able to contact
Saber or anyone that currently works for
him about Chris? I contacted Saber
through some friends in common. Never
heard about an official firing though. I
was never contacted by any friend of
yours, nor did you ever make any attempt
to reach out to me on your own behalf
via Twitter, email, or anywhere else.
You are omitting so much information
right now, but I'll provide some here in
a sec under your original post. Dude, we
can talk privately. I have screenshots
that I contacted both and are you going
to record the call without telling me
the same way I did to Chris, too? Talk
to me privately. I'm not doing this back
and forth on Twitter. Then don't at me
with your halftruths and admitted
information in order to gain sympathy
and slander my name. I'm 100% to debunk
every accusation in your video. I have
no idea how you include due diligence
when you never reached out to me. Don't
[\h__\h] talk to me like that. Don't call
me a [\h__\h] liar when I have the
screenshots to back me up. Your
screenshots were contacting a friend.
That's not due diligence. You should
have had as a direct at I'm sorry. Oh, I
I Oh my god. And if you were aware of
the call, then the information got back
to you regardless. If there was some
decision made, I never heard about it.
I'm ending this conversation. Yeah, he
doesn't owe you an explanation. You The
thing is is that you reached that to DA
Games. DA Games is who you have an issue
with, not him. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Yeah. Like I I I've been quiet for a lot
of this because a lot of this has been
very confusing to me, but I feel like
Saber Spark being like uh asking, "Well,
are you going to record the
call?" because everyone knows she
records calls and then her pointedly not
answering that
question is all the reason that he needs
to be like I don't owe you anything then
you're not even going to answer that
question. And again, this allows Saber
Spark to run from accountability that
you want him to be accountable for. You
want him to be accountable. How can he
be accountable? Just how you're fumbling
this.
So, a couple of things to unpack here
besides me not purposely tagging Steven.
It was a third party. Regardless,
Stephen proceeded to call me a liar
publicly. You calling me a liar? It was
a third party. It's a It's a third
party.
I ain't calling you a truth. Proceeded
to tease me about doing an unsolicited
recording and to slander him. Slander is
spoken and
it's liable. Some red flags to this
response. One, Steven could have calmly
asked who I talked to instead of
assuming the worst. Two, his anger was
directed at me and not an employer,
Chris himself. Three, Steven is claiming
that I never contacted him directly,
implying that he'd had no information
about this, but No, you were never
contact. He never contacted about a
about it. He heard it from a third
party. He heard about I'm pretty sure
that he heard about it for
like Holy [\h__\h] Okay, whatever. Admits
to knowing the confrontation with Chris
was recorded. Yes,
because DA Games told you he did in the
[\h__\h] email. What the
[\h__\h] Because DA Games has the
footage. Do you think for for instance
the DA Games team the purpose like the
HR person didn't tell him that the call
was recorded and they had it? Do you
think if he requested it, they would
have actually sent it to him? Do you
think that when he talked to Chris,
Chris was like, "Yes." And the call was
recorded. The footage is publicly
available. What footage is publicly
available? The call with Chris.
That's true. Like we can we can find all
the bits that she purposefully like cut
out like the the Chris call the full
Chris call is public. The whole
thing unedited. So she just put it in
the discord. Actually put it in the
discord. Why is that not in this [\h__\h]
video
description? Are you insane?
I may lose my [\h__\h] mind. Yeah, put it
in the stream chat section. One of the
mods is going to send it to me. Holy
[\h__\h] Well, listen. If they're in both
one party consent states, she can
consent to it. It's not the point.
The point is actively like
Well, obviously, but she's not if if the
full call is available, we can see
everything that she's not including in
that Chris call. Yeah.
One of the mods will put the Discord
server in. But please, please, please,
please, please, please, you are a if you
are a minor, you a should not be in this
chat and b more more importantly, do you
are server is 18 plus, your account must
also be six month must be six plus
months. Please, please respect that.
We're asking you guys to
nicely. Listen, I I live stream chat.
Christian vision auto save
report let me see it's
where thank
you when was this Google doc
made clearing up
misinformation
PDF bathroom event MP do I have to
download
This do I have to download an
MP4? Uh, this is the best viewable on PC
lab. Do not engage
anyone. What the [\h__\h] Who? The
individual that has previously led
association with
uh here is here is the link to the
community tab. Okay. What I cannot Okay.
Okay. Can everyone hear me?
Can. Yes.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, real's got some
background noise um issues, but he'll
just kind of be muted. Um
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Chris, you want to say
anything?
Why does she not disclose that there's
another person in this call?
Why did she not disclose?
That's very [\h__\h] weird. The safety
report is in the description, but she
deleted the stream. So, why did you not
disclo like you made this
then? This call is 23 minutes. I just
want to hear where where it happens. I'm
going to go to 1.5. Let's go, chat. Uh,
I guess I'd go first. Yeah, go for it.
All right. Well, first I think it's the
obvious thing is one just want to
profusely apologize for that terrible
[\h__\h] thing I did and that got was an
absolute horrible person so many years
ago and you didn't deserve that. So,
right. Um, so I have a couple of things.
So, my source says um you told the story
in front of Will and Sean and a couple
other people. Is that correct? Uh, that
would probably be correct. Yeah. So,
Will has heard the story probably in
passing a couple of times. Correct.
Yeah, probably once. World premiere full
first full call, by the way. Yeah, Sean.
Okay. Did you talk to Sean um uh
privately about anything else that
happened when you were working on the
team that I don't know about? Not that I
can remember.
Okay. Okay. So, can you kind of just
repeat um generally what what we heard
this we're gonna like oh uh like what
the event was like? Yeah. like what why
why were you there? Me inviting you as a
friend, you know, kind of just um the
circumstances of Everfree from your
perspective. Uh Everree was stressful uh
but otherwise fine. Um I do recall
having constipation at one point. Hold
up.
For free from your perspective. Wait,
hold up. um the mayor, me inviting you
as a friend, you know, kind of just what
Oh, as a friend like what the event was
generally what your at the time I can
remember. Hold up. I need to hear
something. Okay. So, can you kind of
just repeat um generally what what your
experience with Everree was just so
we're on the same page. Okay. Okay. With
Everree. Oh. Uh okay. Like what year
then was it? I'm trying to see if she
cut the call, chat. I'm being very real.
I'm trying to see if she cut the call
up. Yeah. Like what? Why were we there?
me inviting you as a friend, you know,
kind of just um the circumstances of
Everfree from your perspective. Uh
Everree was stressful. Uh but otherwise
fine. Um I'm speeding up even more. I do
not recall having bouts of constipation
at one point, but yeah, it's you know,
I'm trying to remember so many years
ago, but uh uh it's it's fine. Well,
well, let me just refresh your memory.
So, I invited you and Jordan, and it was
me, and it was Nick Haw, right? That was
the four of us, and we were saying
Everree was the convention far away from
the convention, you know? Basically, for
those who don't know, Everfree was a
convention where the story took place,
you know, um, and I set that up so you
guys didn't have to, you know, you guys
weren't in on the hook for the hotel at
all. So, that was a nice thing I did.
And so, from what I remember, your
behavior that even before any of this,
it was, um, you know, it made me
uncomfortable how, you know, every time
you're around basically anyone at the
convention, um, you know, you know this,
but it just saved me again. Um, like I
don't know if you remember this
specifically, but it was very much like
anytime you're around anyone, you would
be like, you know who this is? This is I
Love Impossible Lot. And what I remember
is their faces would light up. And you
did this a couple of times until I was
like, "Hey, Chris, like you know, this
is making me uncomfortable." So, it kind
of ties to this whole thing. Did you Did
you brag to people about, you know, uh
to your friends about, you know, um
recording video and being a part of it
and all that stuff? Do you remember? I
can't say I ever bragged about that.
That was um God, I don't remember doing
that, but um Well, I I remember you were
you were invited because I need help
with the camera setup because I'm not
using I remember that. I just I don't
personally remember going up to a lot of
people, introducing you, but if uh you
say that's what happened, then that
probably happened. Wait, but if he's
doing the camera setup and he's
recording the video, is it isn't the
whole thing to record B-roll of of you
being introduced to other people? I'm so
confused. This is 2015. Pony Cons don't
exist anymore. I'm so confused. What the
[\h__\h] Yeah, that's that is I I
definitely remember that happening. I'm
sure Nick can attest. How old was this
recording? So, this recording should be
in and around 2023. 2023. If you look at
the bottom right, 82 82 812 82 2023.
Yeah, to that as well. Um, so I
apologize if we were if I was personally
frustrated with you, but that was one of
the reasons why I kind of felt like you
were kind of treating me like a piece of
meat for validation and kind of the
story matches up with that timeline
wise. So, um, okay, I'm just going to
say right now, Luigi Master Brony is an
insane name. That's an insane
name. Oh, [\h__\h] me. I apologize if you
know you didn't feel valued, but like
I'm sure you can understand, you know,
my perspective why it was kind of making
correct. No, no, absolutely. Um, and you
know, I I don't really think you need to
apologize for that. That should being
refreshed of that and knowing your
perspective, but I should be the one
apologizing to you for that. Well, I
appreciate that. So, she accept Okay,
accepting apology number one. Whatever
my intent was, that doesn't really
matter because what matters is how you
feel now. Do you hear how [\h__\h]
remorseful this guy
is? He is hyper remorseful.
[Music]
He probably grew as a person. And this
is why you don't get in a private call
with KP. She'll put it in a video.
Christ. Thank you. How you felt that?
Thank you. S by the way, but I will
apologize for that.
Okay. And just remember, the story told
didn't happen, right? No. Okay. It's
100% false. And the like if if I may,
um, nothing I say is meant to, uh, yeah,
we'll review this with the DA stuff.
It's clear and clear tied to what I Can
you do you want me to say what what what
what what the story was just for context
or do you want to explain it? Uh I mean
I guess it makes more sense if I do
because I don't think it's fair for you
to have to reiterate that horrible
thing. Sure. Go ahead. Uh yeah. So the
old um tale goes is that I pleasured
myself in the hotel bathroom we were
sharing during one of our breaks when
everyone was gone and whatever and that
I fell off the John uh [\h__\h] after uh
basically getting lightheaded from what
would be ejaculation falling on the
floor where your dirty clothes also
happened to be and that my face planted
on your underwear. Is there a transcript
of
this? I don't see one.
Right. It would be nice to get one, but
I don't IP version. I have a
six-year-old in the other room.
I wasn't aware of that, but thanks for
being honest. Um, and you know, just
just to reiterate, like we were doing at
that con, so like it's reasonable for my
clothes to be in the bathroom kind of
rolled up away, you know, because we
were I had a lot of dresses and was a
lot of makeup and changing because I was
doing a lot of that stuff, right? Yes.
That bathroom was mostly covered in
yourself.
Wait, you guys shared a a
room and your dirty underwear was just
there? I That's just nasty. That's
whether it was or wasn't like that's not
really the No, it's not. I'm just But
I have sh so I I like I've gone to cons
and shared room with my female friends
but like I I don't think any of them
have ever left their underwear on the
floor. I've never encountered that. My
recollection at least that that that
probably tracks with just my general um
pace especially during convention. So
yeah, this was this was every 2015
correct from my what I remember that
tracks um that sounds about right. Okay.
So Ever Northwest 2015 which is was a
funny time. Um okay. Have you ever told
the story in company of Saber Spark or
has it just been well? No, no, no, no,
no. I can assure you that the first time
I ever told it and this is uh my brutal
honesty is because I was very angry at
you at the time and was also going
through a really bad situation of being
on the verge of being homeless and not
knowing how to deal with my aggression
of the feelings I was having toward you
and the feelings I was having toward my
family. and I made this. If this
[\h__\h] goes, I went to therapy to
change my life a little bit, I will like
lose it because it's just like again,
this doesn't excuse that if those
screenshots were in his server around
miners, the beastiality thing,
unfortunately, I can't cooporate it. So,
it doesn't exist. I'll be honest, the
beastiality claim in the VC does not
exist.
I can't I can't cooperate. It's hearsay.
But if this guy says I worked on
myself, why are you trying to constantly
still ruin his life this stupid [\h__\h] up
to validate myself for some stupid
[\h__\h] reason and really only told it
to other uh former KP people who were
also frustrated with you at the time?
Oh, so it was a story around people that
didn't like her because she had
disgruntled employees. Remember, she
fired a 16-year-old because he was too
slow on deadlines.
I don't She doesn't pay them. That was
[\h__\h] stupid. Should never have done
that. And I don't know why. I just for
some reason at the time I thought it was
funny. It's not funny. What the [\h__\h]
The fact that we have to revisit this so
many years later is just horrendous. So,
she found out about this and he is
talking to her about this and he's
owning the [\h__\h] ap Yeah, he's
apologizing many times. I don't remember
there being the apology in the video. I
don't remember being apology is in the
video, but not this extension of the
apology and apologizing for the series
of problems. Again, you don't have to
like him. Post the apology he wrote in
the stream chat. It's the PDF. Thank
you. Thank you. Thank you. Hey Jess,
good to see you. Yeah, I I appreciate
your honesty now. Um yeah. Um okay, so
um yeah, the the the thing that I think
of um is as analogy is kind of the the
Trump locker room pocket. Excuse my Oh
my god, you made it in here. Oh my god,
you've planned this. This has been You
planned this. You planned this hit piece
for year. That proves to be she's
planned a hit piece for years. I'm
sorry.
You've planned this for years. Da
Vinci's crashing on me to try to make
the transcript. It sucks.
Insane. You've been thinking about
that for
years. And
again, she doesn't have to have
disgruntled employees. She just has to
pay people. Yeah, I French. But I feel
like that's kind of what what it feels
like. You kind of booked yourself up.
Here's the thing. This is stuff she
already knew about and was unsatisfied
with how people were dealing with it.
And I get it, but you didn't know about
the other stuff. You were going to make
a video regardless if you didn't have
the other stuff about him. Around
another guy, you know, that's 100%
accurate. That's a very good analogy,
actually. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you kind
of did a
He agrees with
it. No one is blaming her, Brandon. No
one is blaming her. The thing is
fabricated. It's still very gross. It's
just very disingenuous because right now
it sounds like he's agreeing with
everything she says about his statement
and how wrong he was. You know what it
could be too? And like I've been angry
where you just kind of like something
will inconvenience you and you take it
really angry. But it seems like he's
having this this weekend, this trip with
this his boss, so to speak, even though
he doesn't get paid, his boss. And on
top of doing all this other work at this
event, she's out, you know, interacting
with people and having different outfit
changes and she's leaving her stuff on
on the bathroom floor that she's
admitted in this situation. And while
he's there, he's just like concocting
this story because he's just upset for a
multitude of reasons, including not
getting paid. and then you know vents to
people who also are feel wronged by by
her as well and it just makes up a
story. Yeah, she dead ass joke. It's a
disgusting story. It's a disgusting
story. Sure. But like cuz she's also
been sitting on this recording for what?
No, it's 20 two years. Year and a half.
Uh 2023. So let's just say two years.
You've been sitting on this the video is
that bad? This you've been sitting on
this recording for years.
Um, I mean, I'll just be blunt kind of
some misogynist misogynistic talk to
kind of 100%. Okay, cool. Um, yeah, I'm
just making sure we're on the same page
as far as that. Um, so um, as far as
your relationship with Saber, like is it
like just so I know, um, is it something
Are you guys like friendly or is he just
giving you kind of She doesn't need to
disclose this. Yeah. Go on, Greg. Say
it. No, she keeps bringing up Saber cuz
she's been trying to connect this to
him. It's not It's not related to him.
It's about you and Chris, not Saber. She
wanted to take a lot of people down with
this. Holy [\h__\h] Of contract work.
That's it. I mean, I guess you can say
it's both, but I don't have like long
conversations with him. He's so busy.
The most I ever see him is at
conventions if he happens to be at the
same one. Okay. So, you know, you're not
an environment where this would have
come up anyway. Never. He would probably
never. He's 100% unaware. Like again, I
I can't stress enough is that and then
you say you don't believe him about
this. Why do you hate Saber? Like, okay,
I gotta know. Sigh. If you know, if the
chat knows, why does she hate Saber so
much? What's the lore here? Because it's
either that or she always planned to
hear him out record him even though she
because here's here's what I'm actually
getting right now. Here's what it's
feeling
like. This was posted on 114, 2024, but
she had this recording before. was
recorded 8 to 2023. Yes.
If she didn't share it with you until
then, she was been sitting on it for
over a year at that point by the time it
got posted. I'm going to be
upfront. She is probably going to accept
his apology in this call and then
privately she's like, "I'm recording
this on purpose. I'm recording this on
purpose so I can get him." She's trying
to figure what she's trying to do is
she's trying to life ruinate this guy by
listening in and trying to figure it
out. Uh Sabra was weird with her in the
past, supposedly acting like a creep to
her in the
past. Uh bronies, I don't know what to
tell you. They're all socially awkward
and inept. Should they do that? No. They
probably were like, "Ooh, it's the only
girl in the room. Let's all try to have
sex with her and make her our wife." I
This is not an excuse for their
behavior, but this is weird.
In the times I ever told the story, it
was as you described it locked. I could
be wrong because this is what I heard,
but I heard apparently Saber cut off KP
when KP started associating with Lily
Orchard. And it wasn't just him, but
others as well. Yeah, cuz Lily Orchard
[\h__\h] raped her
sister. Like, do I have to say that?
Like, listen, I don't care. Like,
listen, I'll say this right now.
Courtney, if you somehow find this
[\h__\h] video and find this in the chat,
I will rip you a new [\h__\h] for your
consent talk at the end of this video,
we will get there and I'm going to
destroy you. But I'll be very honest
about
it. Courtney is a victim. I don't think
that's true. What the
[\h__\h]
Why? Why? Why don't you think it's true?
I still think Courtney is a [\h__\h]
victim. I just don't think that I think
the [\h__\h] talk she has about consent
at the end of this video is so
abhorently disgusting and so dismissive
of
people talk with a very small amount of
people in a private call. I never told
it publicly. Alex, I'm sorry if you see
this. I thought you were saying about
the rape. I'm just being very very
honest. I never Yes, she could be an
victim and an [\h__\h] at the same time.
ever told it to anyone like Saber Spark.
Okay. Like that 100%. Okay. Just just so
we're on the same page. Is Saber even
aware that you worked for me in the
past? You know, I've never brought it up
and I don't think he has either. Yeah.
No, this is a boss attacking your former
employee. This is is 100% yes. The out
of context button. I do need one of
those. I genuinely do not know. Okay.
Okay. But I know Will knows you work
with me the past because obviously Well,
yes, but only really only because and
again to be really honest again is that
around the time that I left DKP was also
the time that DA Games took off and I
really needed a job because of the
situation at the time. So he would have
really only known because we were
becoming work partners and because a lot
of people he hired also worked for you
prior and did have Yeah, that's the
other thing. It also feels like she's
really mad that DA Games poached from
Team KP, but they were paying them.
Allegedly, you weren't paying
anybody. If if people are like, I really
want to get paid for this hobby I'm
doing
now. What's What is happening?
Man,
I not going to lie, being poached is
pretty cool. Hey, Sai,
I still believe Courtney, mostly because
of how much Lily talks about incest, but
I'm not taking crap from Courtney
anymore. Yeah, listen. I'm okay with
Courtney feeling however she wants to
feel and trusting the people that she
wants to trust. I said this the same
thing I said about when the Destiny
stuff came out regarding Pixie. I
believe not so Ariodite is a piece of
[\h__\h] and was willing to throw that woman
under the bus. But if a victim believes
other people, that is all that is
completely fine with them. Schmoozy
schmutz, thank you so much for the
subscription. Thank you. Thank you. just
like I you can tell me show up if I if
my connection is like app but like I see
a lot of like of
katacism in the way Courtney is acting.
It's like no is really unhealthy from
you. You need to kind of like disconnect
and get like you need to get your mental
health together cuz this is like not
good for you. This is this is unhealthy.
I don't know who Courtney is. Will you
explain when we when she shows up in the
video? Uh Lily Orchard sister just
straight up. And if you know the Lily
Orchard lore, that's just how it is.
Have pent up frustrations of their time
as Dan KP members. Okay. And that's
those are like you're speaking directly
to about Sean and Christian, correct?
Those would be two examples. Yes. I
mean, I hate to mention it, but Bonsy
was also a member, but I don't
communicate with BY at all anymore. Is
Bogy still there? [\h__\h] no. Okay. We've
fired him years ago. Okay. Do you know
what he's doing out of curiosity? Why
are you Why are you so curious about
what the minor is doing?
Look, I have my hit list and girl,
everyone's going down. She wanted to
grate this guy for information. She
wanted to know where all her haters
were. This is an insane conversation. He
apologized. You are accepting it. And
then you're moving on to hear about all
of your haters. Did Sabers Spark know?
Oh, does Sabers But you still work for
Sabers Spark. What's the nature of your
friendship?
And bro, this is wild. Well, my
understanding is he does composition
work for Spindle Horse. That's all I
know. I don't I don't keep tabs on him
because quite frankly, I'd rather not.
Yeah, I agree. But I did I did, just for
the record, I did warn Bizzy Pop about
how toxic he was a couple of years ago.
So, I wonder if she acted anyway.
Vizzy Pop.
There has been hotel [\h__\h] Well, does it
Okay, if I remember correctly, KP hates
Vyop now, right? Am I remembering this
correctly? Or does she still defend
Vizzy Pop?
I I remember reading something about it
as if Vizzy Pop would give you the time
of
day. Again, I say this all the time. Fun
Falga lore. I know one of the people who
who tried to destroy Vizzy Pop. It's
very funny. Vybop hates Cape. Yeah. Uh
yeah, we used to KP hate I actually
helped them pay for their animation
school one time because I felt bad
because they couldn't pay for it. That's
nice. Yeah. They were doing a GoFundMe.
KP hates Vizzy because a guy she doesn't
like works for Spindle Horse. Amazing.
Um, so Griffin and Bogs worked for
Spindle Horse. Great. Um, and so just to
kind of reiterate, your anger towards
me. Did you have a crush on me and I
didn't reciprocate or like can you
articulate? Well, my frustration really
was that um, like a lot of people there,
I felt undervalued and overworked for no
pay. And that's really what it was. You
know what's really interesting?
Reasonable. Reasonable. Huh? Do you want
to ask? I wouldn't I wouldn't apologize
her essentially if I Okay, definitely I
did that. But like she treat she like
basically like uses like a slave.
I'd like to hear Riddle of Lightning
talk. Why do I feel like Riddle of
Lightning is the guy that gave the
impact testimony about Chris?
because it's very weird how everything
uh KP is asking about was addressed in
the character testimony about Chris.
Very weird chat. It's too convenient. I
listen I see patterns all the time but
it's weirdly [\h__\h] convenient is that
I you know and I lashed out in an
extremely toxic uh way. Right. Okay. And
then just didn't she in her video say he
didn't mention issues working for her?
Just for the record, you've never tried
to talk to Vicki about any of that
directly because I don't remember that
you did. Say that again. Have you ever
tried to talk to me directly about how
you were feeling at the time?
You know, I can't recall. I I think I
brought up pay at one point, but I would
assume it wasn't on the I'm just trying
to like because that's not that wasn't
my intention. That's never been my
intention doing YouTube for 10 years and
like like unfortunately the the trauma
and that experience helped me to kind of
make sure I like my I call it my trauma
brain but make sure my trauma brain
everyone's treated well and like um you
know so I'm just affirming that what
trauma what trauma
I don't want okay person who's recording
this what the [\h__\h] are you doing it's
it's the ADHD shuffle where where the
conversation has gone on too long and
you have to move your mouse I see XQC do
it I saw I saw Louis McClung do it I I I
do it sometimes I understand what's
happening, but if you're recording this
for other people, people are going to
see this in 5 hour reminder. We still
haven't got the pop out. Use the [\h__\h]
pop out. Keep Griffin was the singing
voice for Alistister. I think in the has
been pilot Sabers Park defended him. So
I guess that's why she warned. I guess
this [\h__\h] lore is deep. Damn. This is
crazy. Remember when I said this had to
be three streams? I told you I know all
the Black Griffin lore. Now, I've also
said this before that you can hate Black
Griffin, but you should hate that one
girl's mom because she definitely was
trying to pawn off her kid to him and it
didn't work, but it worked for the
friend.
I don't know what that means. I'll find
out in Yes, you will. I know too much
about bronies now. I don't want to know
anymore. I'm tired of it. Which matches
up with my tal to me about it directly.
Sean Christian did and they realized
they as well never brought these issues
to me directly. So I assume that you
didn't and you probably based on the
timeline you probably didn't um bring
them up either because you probably
thought it was handled. Correct. Does
that sound about right? That sounds
accurate. Okay. Okay. I just want to
make sure we're on the same page. Um so
um I think my last question you want to
jump in and add anything else near the
end is um did you so we're having this
conversation 2023. This was events about
mostly almost 10 years ago at this point
like seven or eight. So um like were you
hoping this story wouldn't get back to
me or did you even think about like the
implications? Why? Why would he hope
this story? Of course, you know, at the
time I didn't, you know, wouldn't have
wanted to reach you because my
understanding was at least with the
people I was talking to, no one was
talking to you and, you know, and that
was that. I only recall ever telling the
story maybe three times because someone
else begged me on to tell it something
that happened 10 years ago. So
self-centered. Holy [\h__\h] She she held
the grudge for 10 years so she could ask
that question.
Damian Wolf. I know about the Brony's
react thing. Do you want to know who
else was in those? KP very specifically,
right? Again, that doesn't mean anything
because they all submitted stuff, but
just saying, right? So, it wasn't like a
habitual thing. I wasn't like going on
to podcast and telling a story or
whatever like that, you know? Yeah. I
had enough self would [\h__\h] about me
because I would give him his hand or
whatever the [\h__\h] Yeah, I appreciate
that at least. So, just um Okay. Um, I
think I had one more question, but um,
so you just kind of assumed that, you
know, I'd never hear about it, right? I
think anyone would, but yeah. Okay. All
right. Well, um, did it ever cross your
mind to kind of bring up the story um,
you know, and confess to me privately
like that that the situation happened
that I wouldn't have to hear from a
third party? Well, to be honest, I
hadn't even thought about the story
until you messaged me. Why? That was the
first time I've even thought about it
cuz I haven't told it in got to be five
years at this point. She's like,
genuinely, the only reason
I such a piece of reaching
knew one and two we weren't really on
speaking terms. So, and even if I did, I
don't know how I would even approach the
whole thing. Yeah. How is he going to
approach you? Just never crossed my mind
because around that same time I would
stop telling it is when I, you know,
made an active effort to fix myself. So,
I wasn't really
He went to therapy. He did the thing she
said you're supposed to do is go to
therapy.
Lier Lord, thank you so much for
becoming a boom operator. Thank you,
dude. Legal lord became a member. It's
not legal lord. It's liger. It's like
she's mad that someone fixed themselves
means they don't go on like a my life is
Earl type situation where they try to go
back and like make up for all the [\h__\h]
they did. That doesn't actually happen
in real life. It wouldn't have been good
enough because she had the hit piece in
mind anyway. Like she needed to get to
the end result. So, no progress he has
on himself personally can can be enough
for her to forgive him because she needs
that there to to get to get Will Ryan
and Saber Spark. Yeah, it it seems like
she always was ready to target everybody
involved cuz she's asking targeted
questions to know who she can get
involved.
Thinking of toxic [\h__\h] like that. Right.
Okay. I appreciate your That's an error
on my part. I definitely should have
brought that up sooner, but again, it
just after everything, I just completely
[\h__\h] forgot I ever told that [\h__\h]
Right. Right. Um Okay. Um I think those
are all my questions for now. Um you
know, so have you told any like have you
like Well, never mind. I guess that
answers my question. Um do you have
anything else you want to say? Well, I
mean again besides, you know, obviously
apologizing for it and uh rest assuring
you that I'm not that person anymore and
haven't been for quite a few years. So
Okay. Well, oh, I remember my question.
So were you aware that I got diagnosed
with PTSD from everything? I did not
know.
Who the [\h__\h] cares? From what? Who? From
what? From all the trauma regarding to
the internet. She got diagnosed with
guilt you. Let me guilt you. Let me
guilt you. I want to guilt you more. I
want you for not after you almost went
homeless cuz I wouldn't pay you for your
work. High key get diagnosed again. I
like I don't understand. Like I got
diagnosed with PTSD because I faced the
ramifications of my actions because
there was a series of issues that I did
not address that I had to come to terms
with.
What was that? Are you aware I have a
service dog now that I need? I didn't.
Okay. Nobody cares. He hasn't talked to
you in
years. Like Yeah. Yeah. He's
apologizing. He's like Uhhuh. Uhhuh.
Uhhuh. Yeah. I'm really curious. not
listening to his apology at all. I will
say this uh cuz I know Sai I saw you in
chat and you were talking about I would
love to know what an what Gullia thinks
about this as Italian to New Jerseyian
to New Jerseyian. I would love to
[\h__\h] know what that man thinks about
this that she is throwing her her
literal [\h__\h] all over the place. She got
PTSD from a 10-year-old joke she only
recently found out about after not
interacting with a person. Mhm. Did not
know that either. Okay. Seven years
later. So he's he's right here. His
name's So he's a good he's asleep right
now. But like I guess that's my personal
frustration. I don't care what your
dog's name is.
You know I was
hard and you were kind of like
unbeknownst to me like rubbing the dirt
in my eyes behind my back which kind of
I do know she tried to get aunt to voice
in. I do know my trauma stuff. way. So,
I guess that's kind of the part that
also kind of disgusted me and I'm sure
you were kind of using my name as um uh
credibility on on a professional level
in some way and you were you know like
you were using that to basically I mean
to be honest to get you mean on a resume
for work that you've done.
Oh man, I haven't heard something like
this before.
Um so I guess I'm just kind of Who do
you think you are lady? Who do you think
you are? Q is now activated.
This is insane. Do you know that we have
more to this [\h__\h] video, but this is
like a world premiere call thing that
nobody's heard before? Hold on. No, it
people I mean I mean it was in the dock,
but nobody paid attention. She deleted
it. So shh. It's a world premiere. It's
a world premiere. Hold on. Hold on. Did
she actually say he was sitting up in
his chair? I hear him. I hear him.
activated.
Did she actually say that like that she
think you're going to use my name on
your resume? Did she say that? No one
will ever understand how cathartic
seeing my distrust of KP from the very
start being confirmed in such
spectacular fashion. Yeah.
I just want to make sure that that's
actually what I heard. Yeah, pretty
much. That's not the exact words that
she said. It's a roundabout, but but it
is what she said. That's how I'm taking
She got a trauma because Bogsy did a
slander campaign during his time working
with her. She hired a minor. I don't
care if the m if the [\h__\h] 16-year-old
gives you PTSD from slandering you. I
You are a [\h__\h] You're a [\h__\h] You
are literally nothing. You are made of
glass and paper and all your bones are
going to break by any pressure. You
hired a minor. What the [\h__\h] do you
mean? I can't.
She thinks Mr. Beast. Well, the
[\h__\h] are you telling me? Both is a
child. The funny part is oddly Mr. Mr.
Beast and this has some association with
children. What the [\h__\h] Please don't
tell me that's true. I want to believe
that the adults actually [\h__\h] her up.
Not the kid. Not the kid. For real. No.
No. I want to believe her. I can't.
L, you got traumatized by a child. L, I
can't believe it. Oh no, I lost my
thing. Oh,
there is
that that that those things were
happening simultaneously and that you're
like I'm sure you're aware of it now,
but you're an I like like I'll be real
like I'm not mad like again I'm still
somehow not like I'm obviously not mad
at KP because it blah blah blah blah,
right? But like, are you are you telling
me the 16-year-old that you
hired? Wait, she told this kid's
mom. You're
[Music]
[\h__\h] And she's not in jail.
All right, hot take. Hot take. Hot take
coming in. How the [\h__\h] are you people
mad at Lio sometimes for calling a kid's
mom about him being a shitterter on the
internet? And this [\h__\h] flew under the
[\h__\h] radar. You've got to be [\h__\h]
me. She called his mom. You've got to be
[\h__\h] [\h__\h] me. Scarlet Reaper was
right. She got reverse predated and got
PTSD.
Never escaped Scarlet Reaper. There's no
[\h__\h] Well, it's because Lo never
escaped the [\h__\h] he did during the
Listen, I'll clown on Lio for all that
[\h__\h] All the predator hunting [\h__\h] I
will tell him to his face that he's a
[\h__\h]
idiot. But like always goes back to
Scarlet. But but here's like the crazy
part. At least he's kind of owned up to
it. She's not apologizing for
this. She's not apologizing for this at
all.
I mean, she's actively like ignoring the
other person in front of her. She's only
going to accept this guy's apology so
this recording can take place.
I want you to know, pups, that I am
that I have
been that I have been blueballed for
five
hours of saber. Where is Saber Spark? I
know.
Five hours. is I know
where's
where is Carmen San Diego
directed towards me number two work for
story like you know was was going on
about that time where I was really
really soft
Damian the uh the Senate does not live
anymore is in this chat from time to
time he constantly has to answer for it
cuz he's also in our he goes in our
discord from time to time and my chat
will never let him live his mistakes
down. If Drummer is here, Drummer never
lets that [\h__\h] live his mistakes
down. Legit, we have had to be like
urinating.
Oh man, [\h__\h] Lio let Drummer Discord
and regret it instantly.
Listen, he is trying to get
better. He's trying, but I have been
like, "Stop this.
We do beat Alio a lot. We have asked him
how many kids he could fight and he left
the call.
He didn't even I think he said six like
sixth grade I think. Listen. No, no,
that was me. He can only try. He can
only try. I think his like he was
wondering if he had he can use weapons
or he had to be his fist. He's he's he's
doing great. He's a good time in
Pootopia. Oh yeah, you guys at Pooh
server. God bless. Those two somehow
have made up. Uh, [\h__\h] it. Not 2017, a
year after hospitalized complaint for
two weeks. So, I'm not saying that to be
like, wo, poor V4, poor victim. I'm just
trying to No, no, no. That's valid.
Yeah. Yeah. It's no more different than
what I was saying. Is that because I
also suffered a mental breakdown a few
years ago and had to be properly
psychiatrically evaluated. And, you
know, I'm I have a therapist now. I'm on
anti-depressants. So, you call it you
call it.
Wait. Good. You're taking care of
yourself. Good. Wait for it. high vibes
is there might be some like don't take
this as an insult at all. This is not
meant to be an insult that there might
be some autism at play. I don't even
know.
Sigh. Sigh. Sigh. We need to have a
conversation right now. Sigh. I
She called him autistic.
What's their duty? He called him a
distance.
You think you might be into trains? I
can't. There's no
way. I [\h__\h] believe
that. I am testing what one in shock. I
can't hear that again. I need to hear
that again. Don't mean to read too well
too much, but my vibe is there might be
some like don't take this as an insult
at all. This is not meant to be an
insult, but there might be some autism
at play. I don't even know. So, you're
giving him an excuse for kind of being a
bad person now by saying he's autistic.
Oh my god, that that actually invite me
to go on the soundboard.
I think maybe artistic. What? Ma'am,
what over here? Why over here?
Go on the soundboard.
I'm losing my [\h__\h] mind, chat. Kids,
a kids at play sign and said it's some
autism at play sign.
I'm losing my mind.
That's crossed your mind. But no, no,
no. That's true. I just never disclose
that to people out of it. Oh, he's
diagnosed. You don't say anything. What
the [\h__\h]
Don't answer the question.
Thisism is real.
He doesn't want to disclose. He doesn't
want to disclose the
We're 5 hours in.
Oh, Saber Spark, where are you,
[Music]
bro? Like, [\h__\h] this guy for real. But
like like again,
if if there was like miters in his
server, too. Like, and that like like
this Will guy was also doing [\h__\h] in
that server. [\h__\h] him. But what the
[\h__\h]
Oh, no.
Really? Okay. Well, you I mean I think
that that explains why you might have
been um you know um pigeon I don't know
what the expression is but you might not
have been focused on how it was
affecting me. You know it was just kind
of like you that's fair kind of thing.
So you know but I'm glad you're aware of
that at least like I'm sure there's a
lot I mean I apologize for not
disclosing that to you but you know
that's also technically a childhood
trauma thing is that people would treat
me differently if they knew I had that.
So I usually kept it secret right. Well
I mean I'm just saying for me like I
don't think you need to to be
embarrassed. It's just kind of who you
are. So like you know if I mean not
anymore but at the time I definitely
would not go back.
Doesn't this sound like she's accepting
his
apology? Doesn't this sound like she's
very accepting of his apology? I mean a
lot a lot can change in two years.
Maybe like she's only accepting the it's
like she's only going to accept the
apology on the condition that he admits
he's autistic. That's That's what it
kind of sounds like to me. I don't I
don't know. This was a gay op. This was
a gay
op. I
can't. It was a gay op the entire time.
Hold up before this goes any further.
Was she gaslighting to believe he's
autistic?
That's going nowhere
now. Chat, if you want to know
why that call's going nowhere now, if
this dock goes down,
the misogynist, you know. No, that was
just toxic masculinity. Yeah. Well,
that's what misogyny is. Um, right.
Yeah. All right. Um, any anything else?
Uh, I mean, I feel like I've covered
most of the ground and, you know, uh,
I'm I'm glad we had this talk at least
to sort of, you know, square things
away. Um, does any of your other friends
know? Like, does this happen? Any
circle? I uh this this Yeah. Uh, the
only people that would know would be my
family because they had to console me
from the stress of the texts, but I
didn't really dulge anything. Um, and I
called Sean to say that, you know,
things are kind of [\h__\h] I'm was going
to talk to you and hope that we could
swear this away. How much he was person
who would have known about the situation
before some. Right. How how much did you
tell Sean? I'm going to watch some anime
scream real loud when the Sabers spark
part comes up. I will. We'll do. Just
for I gave him a TLDDR. I didn't like
divulge. Like I didn't say what you said
verbatim or anything. I just said, you
know, that this happened and that we
were going to talk about it and that I
hope it goes well.
All right. Um, so I don't really have
anything else that I feel comfortable
saying at this point, but you know, I
just I'll just leave with uh good luck
and may God have mercy on your soul. Um,
and you know, this two shall pass. Okay.
All those things. So, yeah. Okay. Thank
you. All right. Well, have a good night.
Um, and um I think this is going to
limit my my um communication with you
for obvious reasons, but um No, that's
perfectly reasonable and I understand.
Okay. Well, all right. Well, I
appreciate you talking to me. Okay. I
appreciate the same you being health.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm fine. I'm I'm much
healthier, but it took a very long time
for me to get here. Lots of lots of very
deep trauma therapy. I'm very sorry to
go through that. I I I I appreciate it,
but you know, you know, I mean, it's not
something I started talking about
relatively recently, but it really
[\h__\h] up my my relationship with my
family, complicated it, and you know,
it's been it's been harder than I've let
on publicly. So, I appreciate you saying
that. No, it's all good. All right.
Well, I'll let you go. Um, so yeah, just
keep all that inside. Good luck, and,
you know, hope it is as hope as you
know, as painlessly as it can. All
right. Oh my god, so cringe.
She She asked for no
contact. She asked for no contact.
That's That's what he said in his tweet
also about quote unquote
blue. The God have mercy on your soul
part is whatever she was going to she
gay up this again. Chris is still a
shitty person for making that and if he
allowed the sharing of lollycon and
other stuff in his server that's [\h__\h]
disgusting. Again I I do need proof of
that. We'll go over it during the DA
game stuff but again it's not really
presented that way. It's not it's never
presented that it's Chris's server.
This is
vile. She planned this from the
jump. We're going to go back to the
video
now. I'm I am in shock that she thought
releasing Thank you for sharing this.
Yes, Pixel. Thank you so much, dude.
Like legitimately, you know, as much as
like like [\h__\h] I'll give you for certain
things, this was good.
planned what the call no the video this
video has been planned for years she has
been she was trying to figure out
everything about who this man worked
with who he worked for how much they
knew if they ever discussed certain
things about her job about the animation
she ever did where would they go oh I
don't know are you sure you didn't tell
this person I'd like to know the inner
workings of your of your job with this
person all of which she is not
deservingly privy
of she planned to take down Chris and
anybody associated with him for years
now. She was just waiting for more
dirt. She was waiting for more
dirt. What's up, Quite? Quite
I watched your uh or I haven't watched
it yet. I still need to watch your M
Prag video. Um M Greg I [\h__\h] we the
the M Prag the draw me pregnant video.
That [\h__\h] is hilarious.
I we have we that that's a joke in our
community. So I'm
super up. Good to see you, dude.
I wasn't going to make fun of Steven so
much, but I gave him so many chances to
communicate with me and he just didn't
do anything. So clearly he doesn't care
what I have to say. It's only an issue
when there's potential backlash.
Girl, what? Oh, why are you audio mixing
again?
Diesel. There's my man. Look at it.
Look. Look. Everybodyies. Look at him.
Oh, hi. Look at the little guy. Diesel.
It's the little guy. Everybody's here.
Smash Brothers. Everybody's here.
If anyone wants to listen, Diesel, if
you want to join the call and hear
everything crazy that I'm going to give
you for your stream on
this, it's going to be a good time. This
is part one of three streams. This got
crazier than I thought. Oh, by the way,
so she stole this uh Wholesale didn't
make this. Stole this. Didn't qu didn't
give credit to anybody. No. God, no.
This is tomorrow, brother. I have stuff
to give you.
More stuff. More stuff has happened.
More stuff has happened. We've got
insider information. Congrats on the
numbers. A thanks Poppy. We love you.
Microwave your salads. I've come to make
an announcement. Shadow the Hedgehog is
a Yes. You stole this from a cosplay
video. Yep. [\h__\h] ass [\h__\h] He
pissed on my [\h__\h] wife. That's right.
He said his dick was this big and I said
that's this and the guy. Yes, there is a
thing that she stole this. Share the
Chris call with the Yeah, I got it.
Anything we get Diesel always gets first
dibs on. You guys don't know this. I'm
making a call post on
my good content. He's like, I don't
know. You got a small [\h__\h] dick. It's
the size of this walnut, but way [\h__\h]
smaller. And guess what? Here's what my
dog looks like. No. Okay, I don't care.
Okay, big number. Big number. Yanddev.
Yes, I know who did who interviewed
Yondev. Diesel. I was about to say,
sigh, I know you're doing a Yondev
stream.
Diesel did interview him and broke the
story about all his creepy pedophilic
behavior. Might be a great person to
talk to about Yandev. I don't know.
Don't Don't put him out like that.
[Music]
It looks like two balls and a bone. He
[\h__\h] my wife. Guess what? I'm going to
[\h__\h] the earth. That's right. That's
what you get. My super laser piss.
Except I'm not going to piss on the
earth. I'm going higher. I'm going to
piss on the 6 hour video. Oh, how do you
like that? Oh, you have 23 hours. We
will piss droplets fall on the earth.
Why does this matter? Why does this
matter? Why does this matter? Yes, she
stole this. But why does this matter?
Too long. This is too long. And it is uh
almost as bad as the Seinfeld bit.
Yeah. I want to remind you this is this
proceeds a rape allegation an actual
pedophilia. I mean this is
this is Yeah, this is insane. We're
going to we're going to power through
it, chat, just for you guys. We're going
to power through it. The bit the bit has
be been beyond killed. The bit is beyond
dead. The bit The bit is beyond dead.
Remember, this video is about zuhilia,
pedophilia, rape, sexual assault, uh uh
sexual misconduct, uh uh sexual
harassment, all of this. [\h__\h] fight
before I piss on you.
This is
insane. How did you think this was
funny? How do you even make this
connection when you have to type this
much text different from the meme? It's
a bad meme. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
Listen, she had two years. Yeah.
Yeah. Listen, I'm gonna be honest. I'll
make a better DA Games video than this
[\h__\h] ever will. Can I Can I ask Pixel
something? Yeah, go for it. Pixel, were
you one of
the people involved that asked to not
have their name associated with this? I
know the editors didn't.
If you don't want to answer, you don't
want to have tantra, obviously. Yeah.
Yeah. Yes. That's fair. I'll make a
[\h__\h] I'll make a better [\h__\h] DA
game stream than this [\h__\h] ever will.
Mac, you miss a It's impossible to catch
you up. Holy crap. What did I miss? Your
friend was one of the editors. Oh, [\h__\h]
me, dog. Mhm.
I'm so sorry. Imagine if the Neuremberg
trials had memes before the proceedings
began. [\h__\h] me.
Don't worry, most like actual like
decent human beings don't [\h__\h] care
about the editor of a video. Yeah. No,
we don't usually do it. Uh unless they
they act like they didn't have any
agency in making the video. Uh [\h__\h] Uh
did you guys see Yes, we do know that
she deleted some Discord. I know the
Discord is going under some revamping
again. I still don't really hate the
[\h__\h] KP. I just think this is so
incredibly poorly mismanaged that I'm
like actually kind of
concerned. Like
like we need somebody to carry the DA
games thing correctly now. Like I'll
[\h__\h] do it. I don't give a [\h__\h] Most
things, no matter what you see on on
YouTube or or whatever, everything's
going to be biased. But you need
somebody less biased than KP covering
all of this.
Yeah, I'll push. I listen. Uh, Pixel,
straight up, I'm not even going to
front. Uh, if you guys want to redo all
the stuff about DA Games, the
involvement, the concerns, and your doc
in a correct format, I will do it for
you. Straight up. This is this is if you
want your story to actually be heard and
not a video like this, I will redo
it straight up.
Nope. Just jokes. If you want to talk to
Anana about it, it's fine. If you want
to be by yourself, I will actually do
it. I got no issues with
that because it's pissing me off that
credible allegations are stuck in this
[\h__\h] [\h__\h] ass of a
video. Like it's actually making me
angry and I'll release it as its own
thing and even react to it and we'll do
like we did when it came to the jar
stuff. uh when when we got the just the
robot call with the evidence that
contradicts everything as well as
showing proof with and considering to
the thing uh to the interview so it's
not just slap dashed and that it's put
together
you too. So, what I think happened is
that Steven was informed by PIM, didn't
know it came from me, discussed it, blew
it off or decided it was nothing, and
forgot about it until he started facing
some public backlash and proceeded to
blame me. Because he was so concerned
with direct communication, I ended up
sending him this email detailing who I
talked to, why this is important, and
why this isn't a single incident. Good
afternoon, Stephen. This email is your
requested private communication
regarding Chris and the overall sexual
harassment situation that he's caused.
Our full incident report can be found
here if needed. Since she publicly
displayed confusion at best about my
attempting communication with you prior
to this point, below are screenshots of
my conversations with aka the friends/
employees I passed Chris's information
to. The conversation with specifically
mentions a possible staffing change
based on Chris's actions and I honestly
cannot fathom the situation where there
would be that drastic of employee change
or discussion without your knowledge.
Screenshots can be found here, here, and
here. I do not appreciate you calling me
a liar publicly, and I would like some
form of public apology. He didn't give
me one. Additionally, your public
statement states that you knew the
confrontation between me and Chris was
recorded as a matter of community
safety. Combined with your email
interactions with the AA games lead me
to believe that unless there was some
major miscommunication, you were aware
of the situation, you have chosen in
action. You still have the choice to
either hold Chris accountable, i.e.
firing him approved, or keep him on
staff. Should you choose the former,
please communicate this to me as soon as
possible to avoid any miscommunication
in any public state. He doesn't deserve
You don't He doesn't deserve. You don't
deserve that. What he does privately is
of his
company.
What? What he does privately for his
company is not for you to know. What the
[\h__\h] Statement/information present
after. If you believe this is a onetime
incident, this document linked below has
logged some of Chris's other
inappropriate behavior, including but
not limited to making BCI jokes to
someone he knew as a minor and the use
of the nword in Nazi imagery with
himself and Will of the Aame. You can
find Okay, I don't I know you people are
so woke. I don't give a [\h__\h] about the
[\h__\h] Nazi imagery [\h__\h] I've seen
worse on the
internet. This reads like one of uh one
of the past over emails from the
Hillary. Uh yeah, this is carrying 100
100% like 10%. Yeah. 6 year ago
allegations like [\h__\h] He is no longer
attached to a beastiality joke that we
none of us can prove cuz it we don't
know it
exists. I hate to tell you this. People
make bad jokes around minors that they
shouldn't. More information on page 4
and 29 of this document. I have been
clearance to show unended screenshots of
the BCLi incident if requested. I hope
that we can clearly communicate about
this going forward. I have no desire to
get into an internet squabble with you.
So, let's please work this out like
adults. And do you know what happened?
No response to the email, but suddenly
the Twitter exchange got deleted. Where
did it go? Nowhere to be found. No
apology. Yeah. What? You think that he's
not going to get his his lawyers
involved when you send an email like
that? He has to do a company
investigation. You're
asking. Okay. Okay. Need no
clarification. Just delete the evidence
that he knew about the situation. Yes.
ball starting the said internet squabble
coverage tracks and enable the weird
dude because god forbid Steven have to
find new editor or even do the public
apology that I asked him to when he
falsely threw me under the bus. I
believe Steven realized I wasn't lying
and instead of talking to me directly or
apologizing to me, he just deleted the
thread. So if Steven wasn't hiding
anything or wasn't sus, why didn't he
just ask me about the Chris stuff? He
just assumed automatically that I was
lying and started yelling. You knew
about that though. You knew that he had
the email. You told us that the
email the email
correspondence you had.
you means he knew about the call
existing.
Very defensive, very sus. What exactly
was the move? Yes, I asked him to make a
public apology. A public apology for
for do doing something far before he
ever hired him. Like what the [\h__\h] is he
going to do here? Stephen, do you think
just again? Again, if he was
inappropriate about minors, that is a
very different story. But that's not
fully substantiated. And I'm sorry, but
it's not
thread. Putting your fingers in your
ears and going la would make this all go
away. Moral of the story is to fire
creepy people on your staff, even if
it's inconvenient to you. Steven, it is
clear to me that you do not wish to
correspond with any direct communication
despite you personally requesting. So to
say I'm disappointed with your behavior
would be a severe understatement. You
called me a liar publicly without even
asking for the truth to further
clarification. To me, it seems like the
only reason why other uh workplaces
should act in the way that she wants
them to. So she if she see if he's
someone that should be fired, they
should do it because she wanted to, not
because they've actually done something
wrong within their workplace. Just
because she perceived that it was wrong.
Yeah. Yeah. She wants perceived
wrongs. This is [\h__\h] insane.
Want to get involved is that your name
was attached and you're more interested
in damage control for your brand than
your brand's actual integrity.
I feel like you wouldn't even be having
memory leak in your space. I Yep, it's
memory leak time. When I see it do that,
it [\h__\h] is memory leak time. Hope
that you could be professional about
this going forward, even though frankly
you haven't been through this entire
nightmare ordeal. But clearly that is
not possible. Hey Rachel,
Embry, great point. Why didn't you stop
being friends with Lily Orchard sooner
than Kim?
[Music]
More like Karen Prime. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Sai
again. Why didn't you distance yourself
from Lily Orchard sooner? These
allegations had been going long before
you distanced yourself from her.
Shouldn't of you have ran away?
I I have not seen Kim Possible's um why
I stopped being friends with Lily video.
I wonder if there's something tying in
that video. We should go see. God second
part on on Kim. We could do it. I would
don't mind a second part on Kim. She
claimed the proof was too triggering for
her to look
at. That mean that means there's
proof. What a [\h__\h]
[\h__\h] What a [\h__\h]
[\h__\h] Lily did a fanfic with all those
problems a decade ago.
I can't I
can't you
knew you cannot be throwing glass stones
[\h__\h] stones in a glass house. [\h__\h]
me. Glass stones. Every time there's
like a there's like a 50/50 chance that
I don't get it. Dude, is she supposed to
eat what they were feeling right now?
What? No.
KP's emails are so awful. If Yandere Dev
was receiving them, all four of his
email votes would be valid. [\h__\h] Thank
you. Oh, [\h__\h] me.
To start things off, I replied to you on
Twitter the way I did out of frustration
due to the misinformation you have about
me and how you were talking about me
without ever contacting me directly
prior. I'd imagine you feel the same
frustration if someone had incorrect
info about you and probably you do with
how some people went after you in the
past with false information. I truly
don't want to engage in internet drama
that operates off of gossip, but the
amount of misinformation you have is
staggering, so I will set the record
straight. As far as you and me, I'm
dumbfounded. We hung out and that was
it. I'm not sure what you saw in hanging
out with me, but we just went our
separate ways. All in all, I feel
blindsided by your emails, Rachel. How
can you say that you come to me as an
impartial individual? As far as Chris
goes, I heard through secondhand sources
of his stupid joke that Chris made
amends with you and that was the end of
it only for me to get accused or emailed
months later. You never reached out to
me officially. So how could I
acknowledge anything besides but finally
I do have a lawyer and I will reach out
to you officially. So how could I
acknowledge anything besid anything? How
could I acknowledge
what? How could I how you reached out to
me? How could I where's where's the rest
of the email? But finally I months later
you never reached out to me officially.
So, how could I acknowledge anything
besides but finally I do have a lawyer
and I will Why did you Why was that cut?
Why was that cut? Because he heard it
from Chris and that you two had a call
where you and we all heard it. You do
accept his apology. Yeah. You are mad
about it, but you accept it and then you
sit on it and you want to life ruinate
him.
[Music]
Oh my god. Do you all remember the old
soy smiley face emoji? Sex for you.
Thank you for the sex. Uh, okay. Every
It's all good. I already have these
things. Don't worry. Even Even if she
doesn't accept it, she acknowledges that
he apologized.
And if that's not enough for her,
obviously it isn't. That that won't be
enough for her.
But to Chris, at that point, it seems
like everything got squared away.
Why does this dude sound he was in
special ed? You know why? He's a brony.
Clipclop
again. I
think it may be crazy to say, but we are
I I have lowered the video so much,
guys. I'm sorry. It's there. They It's
like the audio stuff is crazy. Free
voice actors. [\h__\h] me. Again, we have
the oper or I'm hyperritical and we are
hyperritical to a degree where the
insanity confuses me. I'm at this point.
Greg could tell you I see patterns, but
Greg, do you think I'm right this time?
I don't want to be wrong, so I'm going
to pretend like you didn't ask me
anything.
I was right.
We'll gladly bring him into our
conversation to clear the air if needed.
Now that it has come to this degree of
misinformation on your end, I will do
everything within my power to clear the
record for the truth and exploring legal
avenues if necessary. Remember the the
VOD will always be up. We don't take
VODs down. Um so you guys unless
something happens, but yeah, unless
something happens or I have to re-upload
it anytime. I I'll download it if I need
to. But yes, hope this information helps
and convinces you to reconsider your
position. Regards, Steven. Steven,
you've already passed a lot of time I've
given you to deal with the situation
privately. I was outlining my first
email, which I think you he could What
is What is going
on? He doesn't need to answer you. Oh,
you've passed the a lot of
time. What a lot of
time. She gave an arbitrary number.
Brony actually explains too much. True.
She gave an imaginary number in in her
mind. What the [\h__\h] She gave an
ultimatum. If you do not do what I
request within seven days, you will be
cancelled.
What are you [\h__\h] Samara? Like the
the what the [\h__\h]
Feels ridiculous considering you had
access to this information for more than
a year, regardless of where it came
from. If you're now going to sit there
and threaten me with legality after this
many private attempts at communication,
I will not Oh yes, chat. It's time to
feed the dog. Thank you. Thank you.
Break that.
Have we Is this our biggest goal? Have
we done a three? Was this the first time
we've gotten this many? I think so. So
So what I have done is I've Yes. Thank
you. Thank you, chat. She come, Robin.
Yeah, she's coming. What I do, what I've
done now is the first two goals are like
uh like five and then uh come here.
The first two goals are like fives and
then I put uh any any uh any donation
because it's a higher I I'm not going to
ask people to pay five all the time.
It's time to feed the poppers. It's time
to give her treats. It's time to feed
that dog
now on the uplock stream tonight. Come
on,
Leia. Good girl. Look at her. Look at
her. Yeah.
Yeah, let's go, chat. What that dog
doing? Being the [\h__\h] the cutest
that's ever
existed. Let's get back into this crazy
[\h__\h] video. I'll be entering any
further discussion with you after this
last correspondence in contact with you
at this point. The reality is I'm
incredibly uncomfortable with your
general approach in which your previous
email and how your public correspondence
has been addressed as well as you in
general. So, I'll keep this as brief as
possible. To add to this, this whole I
will fight you for the truth tone your
whole last email and the Twitter thread
is drenched with undermines the actual
issues of the conversation on top of
assuming I'm going to publish
falsifiable information. Is that how you
talk to someone who's treated poorly by
a current employee in the past? Based on
all your previous conversations, forgive
me if you're not on the top of my list
of people who treat me with assumed
respect. In regards to your response on
my Twitter posting, your heated response
calling me a liar and questioning my
character is unacceptable. How you were
particularly feeling at the time doesn't
justify calling people names and
treating
Is that a question? Could that not be
said to you when you call a man autistic
and then when he says it's really
something I don't disclose because it's
traumatic to me, you handwave it.
Interesting. Why does everyone get to be
Why are you the only one who gets to be
emotional again? I'll say it again. What
Chris said is inappropriate.
What DA Games does is so incredibly
abhorentt that the fact that the
allegations and interviews are stuck in
a video that like this we have to now
[\h__\h] redo it. I'll [\h__\h] personally
redo it. This is insane. This is an
insane inabbrano
statement. Reading them poorly as well.
Well, you could have DM'd me as
requested several times or asked for
further information before responding in
such a tone. When all I ask regarding
this exchange is for you to apologize
publicly for something you did publicly,
you instead doubled down in the last
message and tried to justify your
feelings. No, you want him to fire Chris
and you want him to apologize for hiring
Chris. That's not what you said. You
want him to apologize for hiring Chris.
That's what you want. Stop
lying because that's what you wanted.
That's why you're calling them out about
Chris's behavior.
You want them to apologize and fire him.
Stop lying. People can read through it.
Listen, [\h__\h] Not everybody's
autistic. People can read through the
[\h__\h]
lines and only privately at that. This
doesn't strike me as someone is dealing
with the situation with the utmost
maturity, but a desperate attempt to
distract from the actual issues and make
yourself the victim. The fact that you
were going about this route again, even
after I proved I wasn't lying the first
time, is [\h__\h] great. Regarding your
access to information about the incident
regarding Chris, and your insistence
that I was the one who directly
discussed the information about Chris
instead of your general access to said
information seems to be misguided. Do I
have to tell you directly what to do
with an employee incident of this scale
for anything to happen? Oh my god. He
said that he come came on your panties.
Holy [\h__\h] dude. I need to like Now I'm
getting
angry. Now I'm actually getting angry. I
am not defending this guy, but holy [\h__\h]
is she pissing me off. He fell onto her.
Yes, he fell on your like and you didn't
prove you weren't
like I can't I'm not defending this guy.
I'm not like I'm not but like this is
insane.
[Music]
[Laughter]
Feeling a little parasocial with how
proud I am with the ops. Not so little
guys anymore. We're becoming an actual
company now. Smiling face with tear
emoji. Oh, thanks guys. Thank you,
Mitch. Thank you, Mitch. That's really,
really sweet. Like, what the [\h__\h] Like,
this is insane.
I shared the confirmation I had from
both that you had said information,
which came off as indifference based on
what I felt as well as your correspond.
No, the [\h__\h] you said was we tried to
reach out. We hadn't heard anything
to such as well as there being a public
safety report available with public
contact information present for over a
year regarding the situation. So, how
did you the public safety report? We
don't even know about. We had to find
it. Nobody knew about this except your
little tiny community. Why was Chris
never called out for your public safety
report? Come
on. You're acting like he knew
immediately. Like, come on.
Well, I don't understand how it's
particularly relevant how you learned
your employees to sexually harass
someone in the past. It just matters
that it happened. Even assuming you
didn't know about Chris, the Twitter,
Time out. Time out. Time out. Time out.
Time out. I really need to make this
clear. He didn't sexually harass you in
the way that you're describing. He told
an offolor and disgusting joke to other
people and it came back to her. He
didn't do it to your face. He made an
off-color joke about you that again I
still think is incredibly disgusting and
disrespectful and something he should
have never done. Including the fact that
if he did have miners in a server that
he allowed Will to be
disgusting but you cannot like this is
insane exchange. I still emailed you
directly disgusted before it reached
this point and you seem to ignore that
email and only responded to a second
after my frustration became clear
through. To be frank, it doesn't matter
how the perpetrator feels how the
resolution went. But the fact that it
happened in the first place is
unacceptable. Chris
is what? You accepted his apology. You
did it so you could gay op the guy with
a recorded
call. You lying [\h__\h] Like I It is
actually annoying. I shouldn't be
agreeing with Chris. I should be pissed
off at him. I should be pissed off at
everybody in this scenario. But the fact
that you recorded him, you're asking him
about his employers. You wanted to take
his employers down far before you knew
about their other improprieties. And
again, Will is a [\h__\h]
pedophile. I'll [\h__\h] stand on that.
You don't have [\h__\h] minors in your
Discord and have a [\h__\h] NSFW chat. I
don't give a [\h__\h] You're talking about
[\h__\h] You call a minor mature for their
age. You [\h__\h] pedophile.
That's always a red flag. The biggest of
red flags.
You've got to be kidding
me. Like, you've got to be kidding
me. Chris thought he was apologizing in
private and you accepted his apology.
You did when you Yes. Yes. Yes. every
time that he's apologizing profusely to
you, he's agreeing with you. And he
thought the apology was private and when
you asked to have zero contact, he
agreed and said that was for the best.
And he apologized again.
again. He does she doesn't need to
accept his apology, but she did it for
the purposeful fact of recording that
call and later using it against him and
other people he's associated with.
Exactly. That is my issue. Your video
with the [\h__\h] allegations against DA
Games is so [\h__\h] tainted because you
are a weasly little [\h__\h] And I would
say that about a guy, too.
He apologized. He said he he
legitimately did the dark place meme,
but meant it sincerely, which is
actually
insane. Yes. Where's the apology to
Lily's victims if you care so
much. That's what I would like to see.
Not a [\h__\h] video being like, I regret
my attachment to Lily Orchard. Where's
the [\h__\h] apology? Where's your email?
I should email you. be like, "Why did
you associate yourself with Lily? Sounds
like you shouldn't be on the platform
anymore. I don't believe in
that." Should I email the people, all
the people you've worked with, and be
like, "Why did you associate with this
person?"
Very obviously going to tell you
whatever you need to hear to keep his
job. It's all right, guys. The colonel
said the crime actually wasn't so bad
after all. He didn't commit a
crime. Fun fact, he didn't commit a
crime. I actually need to say that. If
he I if you're so pressed about what
Chris said, take it in civil
court. Again, I don't approve of people
suing each
other, but this is insane. The only
reason she stopped associating with her
uh was because her other friends did.
Yeah. And
again, you blamed them for having minor
mods, which I agree. But you are
throwing stones in the glass house when
you hired a minor as an editor and then
you said that said minor gave you
[\h__\h]
PTSD. [\h__\h] off. Like, this is
insane. You mishandled everything.
What is this now? Because KJ just sent
this to
me. I Oh. Uhoh. KP, it seems like shit's
leaking from your Discord
now. I don't want to explain this or
talk about this yet because I didn't
want to make myself about the situation,
but I feel too many people will not
focus unless I do. So, I'm going to
explain why KP was initially involved.
About a month ago, Saber's victim wanted
to reach out to me with their story.
They saw I was managing to get the word
out on Griffin's actions. And then with
Saber as his good friend and partially
tied, it led them to be more confident
about coming forward to their story.
Statements they said about me. At the
time, I was handling a lot, including
being suicidal. Oh my [\h__\h]
Christ. I don't care that you were
suicidal. [\h__\h] insane. I know two
people run this account. I don't care.
The topic was triggering for Sophie on a
personal level. How unfortunately
covering her story at the time was
something we could not
handle. I want to [\h__\h] crash out. I
swear to Christ. I want to crash out. I
swear to Christ. I want to crash
out. But we'll get
there. I
see. I did, however, know that KP was
already working on a video about him
before this year. I never had a
conversation with KP. Uh all I knew that
she was about her that was years ago. I
remember hearing her uh she paid her
team in exposure. As more and more was
coming out about Black Griffin, she
started responding to it. Her and others
on her team reached out to me asking to
help cover DA Games. I told them I knew
nothing about DA Games, was already very
preoccupied, and felt it was very out of
my brony fandomcentric wheelhouse. KP
had room in her server for people to
talk about DA Games.
I mentioned that because she made
another room for to discuss Black
Griffin, I joined her server because
obviously I knew a lot about the subject
and thought I could help resolve any
misconceptions and add insight if
necessary. In a call they had I joined
and was informed about the DA game
situation later on later more privately.
I was informed on the coming video on
Sabers Spark and KP's own firsthand
experience with him both with DA Games
and Saberspark. There was actually
serious problems and those problems were
all I was told. That means, hey, fun
fact, she was already making this before
a [\h__\h] victim ever came around. So
this whole [\h__\h] story about them was
still going to happen. And then the
victim was just a convenient [\h__\h]
thing. And again, I will say accuser and
not victim because I can't prove half
the [\h__\h] that she's [\h__\h] saying out
loud. Uh these two there are two people
running the fan the brony fan don't
account. You're okay. I know there's
it's fine.
Literally. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. We were not further involved. I
did not pitch this to KP. I suggested
the victim talk to her and a until a
week and a half ago, that was it. Prior
a week and a half ago. She tacked this
on a week and a half
ago. A week and a half ago.
Uh about a week and a half ago, KP
messaged me with the finalized testimony
and already pre-written statements for
us to
use. Again, it's [\h__\h] You should not
prewrite other people's
statements. Pre-written statements on
other people's behalf always looks like
you're [\h__\h] putting it in.
We were not asked, only given a
statement that claimed both I and Sophie
talked to the victim extensively, which
was not true.
Yes, I do. Defendant directed the victim
to KP in the first place. Promoted the
video and is now trying to cover his own
butt. Yes, indeed. I was just about to
say that. We'll get there. Thank you,
sir.
Trigger warning. The following is a
testimony of rape for the Saber Spark.
Two isolated incidents.
We bonk as well as a YouTuber I love Kim
Possible a lot have talked to the victim
extensively exposed video. Okay. I did
investigate the victim prior and had no
reason to doubt them or their motives. I
did not however have extensive contact
conversation with them and Sophie had no
involvement at whatever. So I ignore the
pre-written statement because I believed
the victim. I posted the testimony. KP
told me to take it down because I was
too early. She hadn't explained that she
wanted to post it on the day of the
video release. She also wanted me to
make sure I was posted at a specific
time. Knowing that the victim had been
talking with her, I went along with the
plan. I assumed that it was the plan
that the victim had agreed to as well.
And I would, you know what's [\h__\h] You
know how I know that this person is
covering their ass and also
lying in my opinion in the statement.
They also included the throwaway at of
the the supposed accuser.
Supposed accuser. They included their
at uh if we could get you know guys you
know what you know what you want to do
uh just get [\h__\h] screenshots of these
for later chat you know what to do make
sure you have screenshots of everything
make a th KJ has it if KJ doesn't
already have it you know what I he
probably does remember make threads
people whenever [\h__\h] like this happens
we make
threads testimony was posted again on
May 1st the video was released shortly
after you can see for yourself my
reaction at the time. I was trying to be
generous, both because at the time I
thought it was only not her
understanding the problem prior to the
releasing publicly and because I wanted
her to hear me out and remove the
video. Bonk. Hey, I know you're probably
swamped right now. I don't want this
come off as an attack or add any people
attacking you, but I'm currently
watching the video and I'm really
disappointed. I don't think it's
appropriate for the memes to halt the
video every few seconds or for a lot of
it to be discussing squables instead of
serious
allegations. I haven't gotten uh to the
most serious parts of it because of this
is frontloaded with your person personal
defense for
you. I don't think I don't even think
that saber information should be in the
same video at all because shared and
pushed to the back of the story. The DA
game seriousness should have been in the
front. your response and defense the end
every time with Saber allowed to be
entirely removed from the video entirely
removed in a different
video and your mocking voiceovers also
ruined the credibility. It all comes
across as childish when there are
extremely important things in the video
and mixed in the rest. I'm messaging you
instead of
making public statement because like I
said there is a lot of awful things that
I want you to know to bring to light. I
don't think you have bad intentions, but
I don't think this video would only harm
causes and I don't want people to say
it's all just drama simply because of
the exhausting video. Here's my
issue. You can't claim that you know
that all of this is bad and then say,
"Well, I didn't vet the victim
extensively
enough because I immediately off ripped
believed them." Now, I know that there
are other statements by this person's
alleged former
roommate Bonk is one of the people that
runs this Brony fan don't account. It's
Bonk and and uh Sophie from what I
know. Now again, I will say
this. It's very interesting that you're
like, "Oh, I off rip believed the
victim." But now you're like, "Well, I
didn't extensively vet them." Incredibly
suspicious. Incredibly crazy.
I'll think about it, but I'm currently
exhausted. Think about what I thought
you were implying that I should take
that the video. Uh, Ibon goes on to say,
I am very worried that the video will be
used as a huge stopping point for the
discussions about DA games and Saber
Spark.
Yeah, we'll get to the Saber Spark
allegations. I need to make them very
clear. I didn't realize this was going
to be how it was formatted. I didn't
want to make the statement. I don't
[\h__\h] care about this anymore. I'm
very worried about I'm too tired to
comment right now. I'm in an hour 20
minutes so far. I'm finding it very
Yeah, this is I've been told the rape
allegations are a small segment at the
very end. Okay, because it sounds like
that's all this person
has. The video is unlisted. I'll discuss
it later with team members. I know.
Thank you for taking the steps though.
Blah blah. I don't [\h__\h]
care. Uh even at this point, I was
giving her the benefit of the doubt. I
talked with her in call about the
problem she told me was surprised by the
reactions because her team and the
victim viewed it prior and liked it. I
don't I don't realize I did not realize
at the time she was lying. The victim
had not been shown the video prior. She
was shown a much smaller segment of the
video that was actually related to her
story. Learning this and seeing how KP
was reacting to things in my DMs was how
what made me realize she's much worse
than just
tonedeaf. Is there anything else to be
said on Twitter? People are assuming me
as bad as the people I covered. I'm
going to bite Amy's head off. I cannot
add any additional Who's Amy? Is is that
the
victim or the accuser? Sabry Spark's
accuser? I don't know. Did these [\h__\h]
just out the
accuser? Did these people just out the
accuser? No. Who is
Amy? Amy new is not a victim. Amy new is
not a victim. Okay. It's [\h__\h] I don't
know what's like. Who is Amy? I don't
care. Sigh. This isn't helping. Yeah,
cartoonyishi got you. I know. Uh, I
stopped talking to her immediately. Uh,
I watched the video sent she sent to me
by I thought it was really well covered
and you can find my comment in the video
still. This thread is going to be long.
I'll tell you tomorrow about why I left
the Oh my god. Another problematic
person on why I feel suicidal.
I don't care that this person feels
suicidal. Amy is the is friends with the
victim.
Okay.
I don't care that you feel su I'm going
to be honest. I don't care that this
person feels suicidal. I don't
care. I like
uh bro couldn't even apologize directly
to me for blaming me for the KP skit
clip. Yeah, I saw that. They were
defending them very long until public
opinion couldn't do anything.
It's very
interesting. We will get to what the
accuser has said out loud. We'll get
there. Hell, it doesn't even matter how
I feel about it. Still, if you were so
concerned with my personal opinion on
the matter, to the point whether it
would directly dictate your decision to
keep Chris on staff or not, I do not for
the life of me understand why you didn't
reach out to me directly or indirectly
through our friends. Great job updating
me on the current status of Chris's
employment, even now, by the way. Good
job. 10 out of 10. Regardless, this
isn't a joke. And your insistence as
such is the underlying problem of this
whole situation. How is it a [\h__\h]
joke to say you ejaculated on your
boss's clothing and say that? Because it
was. It was a joke. It was a poor joke,
but it was a joke. Are you saying he
really did it?
Has he told you he didn't?
And you said yes.
That to other men multiple times. It
cannot and should not be belittled as
just drama. Why would I have gone
through the trouble of corresponding
with DA Games? I'm You know what?
Straight up. I'm sorry. It is just
drama. I'm gonna be
honest. It is just
drama. I'm sorry. It is. I I'm sorry
that you feel this way. I'm telling you
right now, his joke about ejaculating on
your underwear is
drama. I'm very sorry to tell you this.
Welcome to the internet and being a
public person. Did he commit a crime?
No, it's just drama. It sucks to say
that. It's really shitty because [\h__\h]
am I
annoyed. Like, you know what I mean?
Like, that actually makes me really
upset to say, but it is just drama. And
I still don't like him that much. But he
literally Yes. And you made it
drama. Fouchy, you said he face planted
into her panties. I know. I know. I
know. I know. I know
or having a safety report be written if
I just thought it was just a joke. I was
and am worried about the children Chris
and the greater DA games community still
have access to. Even if I had forgiven
Chris for some reason, it wouldn't be
relevant. But you cannot verifiably
prove that Chris is a predator. Again, I
need to state that in this video. I have
not been shown that Chris is a
predator or has any improprieties around
kids. Will 100%. So, a lot of stuff
thrown at Will. But what do I
know? Go Kat, there was a lot of
information that we kind of premiered on
this [\h__\h] stream. I'm letting you
know there's just a lot. Even still, you
seem to show anger that I got at Chris's
confession on record. What? What? Greg?
No, it's just a lot. We're in hell
together. Yeah, we're in hell together.
In comparison, you know what? But he
actually confessed to you with your
comment stating, "Are you going to
record the call without telling me the
same way you did, Chris?" To be clear,
he is not the victim. Full stop. Neither
are you for that matter, Mr. Truth
Seeker. Publicly throwing the actual
recipient under the bus and signing with
the sexual harasser just because he did
not know he was going to be on record as
a safety concern. On top of being
incorrect about your information is one
of the most idiotic parts of this whole
ordeal. I felt it was very obvious that
the intention was a recording for the
public record. And a possible angle
interpretation of him being blindsided
by a bad joke to turn public because I
want to be a [\h__\h] and cause problems is
just insulting and respectful on so many
levels. or how you put it, publicly
discussing halftruths to gain sympathy
and slander your name. Spoiler alert,
this isn't about you. Add initially the
fact that I went out of my way to
privately talk. No, it is about him when
you constantly say that he's employing
somebody and you demand employment
records. It is about him when you say
his name over and over. What?
what
to you directly after several attempts
to seek resolution with the staff and
wanted to ask on the Twitter thread and
still did not receive a response until
sending a second email outlining my
frustration is just ridiculous. I then
even provided additional proof of racism
and Nazi imagery that Chris and Will
displayed
there. Will is not under his
employee. What you showed was Will. I
didn't see Chris's [\h__\h] account
there.
or even incidents of lollycon/child
pornography and sharing that material
which you said was morally gray. In this
video you discussed that like lollycon
is like like a weird area if I remember
correctly. I could be getting that wrong
but you said that like artistic
expression the morally gray thing was
the was 18 18. Yeah.
But like
legally gray, something like that.
That's Yeah, legally gray. Something
like that. Legally gray dating an
18-year-old. But when you discussed
lollycon, you said it was like
expression. Like am I likeay?
Hold on. Uh she didn't condemn it.
That's right. She didn't condemn the
like the things of Lollcon. And yes, you
were friends with Lily who made
it. Didn't Lily make Lollcon art like a
CP fanfic?
You have no right. You have no [\h__\h]
right.
Incest DP fanboy.
You have no You want to know what's
crazy? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait.
If I remember correctly,
calling out Chris would have been still
around the time she was friends with
Lily.
Oh my god.
Don't go do it. Quite don't do it.
I can't.
With minors allegedly accidentally on
the documentary linked as well as Will
dating a minor in 2015. If we only knew
what Saber Spark thought about lollycon.
Oh wait. As his following grew, Cal
became very publicly outspoken with his
dislike of loll and similar taboo art
styles. For those who are not familiar
with them, let's just say it's a
this additional document has been
publicly available for over two years.
The DA games community server has had
pedophiles that So, it's over two years.
Weird. You were still friends with Lily
Orchard. How long was Lily Orchard stuff
around? Years. More than
two.
Interesting. Interesting.
Uh, so KP's been friends with both Bonk
and Lily while they were both advly into
that [\h__\h] So I don't know about Bonk
being friends andor into
Lollcon, but yeah, Lily for
sure that we're quietly kicked out if
slash when discovered instead of
publicly acknowledged. One has a
[\h__\h] bug shot on the document.
Since this all seems to have gone
ignored until now, on top of the sage
report of the incident being publicly
available for over a year, solidifies to
me my original assumption that you do
only care when you have consequences for
your lack of action. God forbid someone
is a creep on my staff. Just don't tell
the public he works for me. Does it not
seem like common sense to fire someone
who talks this way about others,
especially women, regardless of when it
happened? In the interest of openness,
though, I am open to do an on the record
three-way conversation between you and
myself to get to the truth of the matter
at a later time, but that will be at
your discretion as his boss and at his
comfort level. As I want to audit
request and not be involved anymore and
not emotionally distress him. Why? Why
are you redacting Chris? He She's doing
the [\h__\h] Mama Max thing.
Okay. The fact nobody else has mentioned
it has made me question my memory, but
I'm pretty sure KP was the one who
played the one MLP game Lily was
associated with that contained our word
and fol word.
Uh, thank you, Axis. I don't know any of
those words you just said. Yes. Uh, Lily
Orchard made an RPG maker that was like
with ponies and it
had CSA incest
noncon if I remember
correctly. Yeah.
But why
why why is KP wanting to do a call? No,
no, this is No, this is
Oh, this is that the Is this her? Oh,
wait. Oh, no. Is this her or is this
him? I don't [\h__\h] know anymore. I'm
lost, chat. I think it's still her. But
she already had a call's name. Yeah, but
she already had a call. Chris, why' she
want another call? Yeah, you like You
don't [\h__\h] me.
ly I will not it wasn't I don't think it
was KP it was Nintendo gal okay okay
okay the consistent implications of
untruthfulness until this happened can
reach out in the future if he's
interested and comfortable about a
possible conversation lastly as I don't
want to get too personal but it's
absolutely laughable that you consider
your romantic interest in me and our
friendship ending as mutually parting
ways
what you bring up like what [\h__\h]
planet are you on is that how you
summarize every one of your failed
courtships let me refresh you on the
experience after months of spending time
together in person and your insistence
that we were just friends your goal
seemingly was instead to spend time with
me and if I would change my mind and be
open to a romantic relationship. At that
time, I felt like I finally had found a
like-minded content creator and friend
close to distance to me. I think I even
said something along the lines of,
"These feel like dates. I'm just making
sure we're hanging out as friends."
Right. After you distance, I felt
manipulated and pressured to say I was
open to dating in order to not lose that
friendship. You then dated. She at the
beginning of this video was was all
about about her own personal wants to
[\h__\h] her. But but here she is doing it
again. A personal gripe and a personal
gripe response to talking. Let me talk
to your manager about this personal
crap. I have this employee.
Every man Every man that she's ever come
in contact with isn't is is is sexually
interested in her? Like I'm I'm so
confused now. Is she Is she Does she
Does she like sexualize her enemy? I
don't know. But it's also that I'm not
Okay, I'm going to be
upfront. I'm going to be upfront when I
say this. People are not going to like
this. If you say I was pressured to
saying I was open to dating because I
didn't want to lose a
friendship, you said you cannot rewrite
history on that one. I'm sorry. I'm so
sorry. I know that men and women have
experienced this. I have experienced
this. Do you know why I I say that?
because I know internally that's me
rewriting the way I actually felt and it
was me not being like a
person that should have like done the
right thing. You're not taking
responsibility for
that. You're not taking responsibility
for it. Yeah, it's it's kind of a shitty
thing to do, too. But I I can understand
um I would understand if she felt
awkward in that situation with like with
another creator or like uh like a a male
creator in that space type of thing, but
she's specifically saying to not lose
that friendship and that's that's
different. Did Gabe sister over me and
then asked about my dating availability
immediately after that ended. I tried to
play it off but was uncomfortable with
the whole situation. I felt like I was
only important to you if I was datable
and a backup option at that. Would I
have been treated the same way as a new
potential friend if I was male
identifying? This is the whole reason I
went to your staff in the first place
and not you directly. I felt objectified
by my direct experiences towards you and
did not wish to repeat experiences for
the sake of my own mental health. But
you implied you needed the
clarification. So there things that
can't be
proven. So hearay.
There you go, buddy. At this point, I
feel exacerbated with the favor I've
given you and others personally,
professionally. So I'll be ending the
conversation here to remind you I am not
a third party in the situation trying to
get cheap or easy views off a popular
content creator. This is how Chris
treated me behind my back. This is how
he never owned up to those actions till
I had to find out about them myself.
This is how his behavior has continued.
This is how the greater DA games
community could be potentially harmful
to children. This is on top of Chris's
misogynistic anti-semitic behavior that
I stupidly forced myself tolerate when
he worked for me. And the fact that I
have to sit here and fight and scream
and kick for I thought he wasn't your
employee. Remember what she kept saying?
Remember how she's saying in and out he
wasn't my employee?
I didn't I brought you as a friend
because he wasn't an employee because
she wasn't paying him.
But she doesn't pay anyone. So she has
no employees remember except for the
child when she's getting free work. But
she never paid the child. So is she
culpable for child working laws? Yes.
And he did own up to it and apologize
when he was confronted with it. And
because he did like you two weren't
talking and you two kind of at that time
kind of agreed to like there was like
when I don't talk to somebody I'm not
going to [\h__\h] like I said my name is
Earl cross you off my list because why
would he want to make amends with you?
He kind of knew the br like the [\h__\h]
the bridge was burned and then when he
when you come up to him about it he is
actually incredibly remorseful. Are you
calling him [\h__\h] sociopathic? You
weren't going to let this go
regardless. You're lying.
Anyone to take this seriously is so
emotionally draining, triggering, and
insulting. This whole situation has been
a nightmare. But I'm not going to sit
here and let everyone else pretend it's
just a joke out of public convenient.
And I would bet good money that he's
still on your payroll. I'm at a loss for
words. Frankly, I do not have the
patience or emotional bandwidth for your
tone, your constant vivilization, or to
discuss this further with you at this
point for your own perceived direct
benefit. To be blunt, you trigger the
[\h__\h] out of me, Stephen, and I still
tried multiple times to communicate with
you, but ultimately was met with silence
until now. You were screaming on Twitter
like a child at me for months after
trying to get any kind of internal word
on Chris and the information being in
the public eye. And you still haven't
[\h__\h] apologized for any of it. How do
you think this makes me feel? Why does
he have to apologize? He doesn't need to
tell you
anything. What are you doing? You're
ruining
this. There are really things that Chris
should answer for and he did to you
privately. The other stuff about DA
Games and the server. This is what's
pissing me off. the DA games
allegations, interviews with people at
hand are now stuck in this [\h__\h]
thing. It feels like it takes back seat
to to her personal hang-ups. Yes. Yeah.
Do you know how [\h__\h] We haven't
gotten to the actual allegations, right?
No, we haven't.
Not Saber Sparks. Not Saber Sparks. We
haven't even gotten to Saber Spark yet.
This is like I'm actually mad for the
I'm actually mad for the victims of the
DA game stuff now. I am profusely
frustrated. I have I don't think I've
ever been this angry covering everything
in my [\h__\h] life. You are disgusting.
You are deplorable. You are
self-righteous, self- serving. And I get
it. We We
listen. If you want to get in contact,
KP, I'm more than willing to reach out
to you. I am more than willing to hear
you out. But it will be public. It will
not be one of your [\h__\h] recorded
private calls. This is a public call
out. You want to talk? Get on this
[\h__\h] this [\h__\h] broadcast and
talk. I sure you won't do it. You'll
probably be like, "Oh, I'm too small."
But guess what,
[\h__\h] Do
it because right now you have been
incredibly
disrespectful to
everything. And I'm sorry. I I I [\h__\h]
it. I'll even say this. The person who
is
accusing Sabers Spark needs to make more
public than just [\h__\h] two cons, one
of which she got the wrong. This is a
fun fact for you. It wasn't two years.
It was two cons in the same year.
I have a problem with this because when
you make anonymous claims like this, but
we can't support other stuff and it's
all [\h__\h] he said, she said, you
delegitimize that person's actual
allegations. You want to fix this video,
[\h__\h] own up to
everything. Own up to everything. you
want to come on to the broadcast. You
and I both know people who can make that
liaison happen. That person I can get
one person on my side, one person on
your side if you really want it that
way. I'm like actually annoyed. I am
done being
nice. But only then to even be taking it
seriously because I might make a video
and hurt other people's reputation
really shows me how being affected by
all this really matters in the long run
to you. sexual harassment, use of Nazi
imagery, pedophilia, fine to sweep it
under the rug. Just don't.
The use of Nazi imagery was not directed
towards you. I want to say what KP is
doing is life ruination [\h__\h] Uh leaves
people with no way out when they [\h__\h] up
with a preemptive to destroy their
careers, leaving no room for
forgiveness, making victims feel less
safe. Repeat that. Did that did give
Wait, I died. Rose, I don't know what
that Rose, you're gonna have to die. My
brain hurts. Repeat. That did give KP
give the wrong year. No. Did KP give the
wrong year? No. In the written
statement. It has now come out and we'll
kind of go over it because the
individual who's the accuser has made
statements. It wasn't 2012 and 2013. It
was allegedly two cons in 2012. They
just got something incorrect. And again,
that's fine, but this is why you work it
out with
them. Liz Lily has falsely accused
multiple people of being a Nazi, a CP
have her in a PDF. What do you mean?
Yeah, none of what's happening is going
on. Don't bring it up on Twitter.
Rammeses, you bring this upon yourself.
Whatever. Chris isn't the And again,
don't you
[\h__\h] I hate you. I hate you with my
soul because you include memes in a
[\h__\h] professional call out video
saying that you're a victim. And again,
he did make a joke, an off-color joke.
He didn't sexually harass you to your
face. He did it behind your back. It's
still not right. But he apologized
profusely to you and you accepted it out
of the out of the [\h__\h] thought
process of I'm going to get this
[\h__\h] later because you weren't
satisfied until you was fired and
publicly shamed. You could have done
that. But you didn't because you weren't
happy that when your call or your
allegations or whatever the [\h__\h] wasn't
taken seriously enough, you wanted him
to be fired by everybody. And yes,
another segment about Chris. When are we
going to get the Saber Spark? Cuz we
haven't.
Victim. Chris isn't the victim. I can't
believe I have to even have the segment.
But with the implication of Steven's,
what are you going to do? Record me
comment on top of Chris's statement
talking about the recording being
without his knowledge. Let's just clear
this up.
Saber Spark doesn't want to be recorded
by you. He's not talking about Chris.
He's talking about you.
So firstly, as already stated, I thought
it was obvious that a call-up is being
recorded for safety reasons because it's
about sexual harassment. It's not like a
fun call. Like I thought it was obvious.
Obviously, it wasn't. This isn't just
someone calling me a [\h__\h] or something
subliminally small. Like this is someone
using the fact that I am a girl as a way
to negatively sexualize me to make
themselves feel better. Should I have
What? What?
It was partially that you were a woman,
but it was also partially that you were
his boss and you weren't paying him.
Yeah. Why don't you include the fact
that he had pay discrepancies with
you? Why don't you Okay, that's my
issue. Why don't you in include that he
had pay discrepancies with you? Why
don't you show the fact that you
actually paid him? Hello, Bonk. It's
nice to meet you. I wasn't planning on
name dropping you, Wolfie, but I I would
like for you to stop talking about me.
Bonk.
Hello. Nice to see you. Glad you're
watching the stream. I have issues.
I was going to say like I she's [\h__\h]
lucky uh Chris wasn't in California or
he could have gone to his [\h__\h] labor
board and she would have been [\h__\h]
Bonk, I have issues when you when either
you or I or Sophie
talked. You made it a little clear that
you kind of knew the the how important
these allegations were. In your response
tweet, you said you really didn't talk
to the victim that much and you directed
them straight to KP. That is not how you
explained
it. So, are you going to talk about it
now? By all means, [\h__\h] comment
because that's not how you posed it and
that's not how you've been posing it in
multiple
multiple replies.
I'm realizing why my character stills
get age so poorly in real time. Yeah,
Treasure Pettis is having a boy.
Francis is here.
He's going to resurrect. Is back. Yeah.
No, I don't need them to come on call.
I'm not going to [\h__\h] platform him.
Explain.
I'll let this video play. We'll go.
Additionally, this is someone I trusted
enough to represent me at a convention.
I could answer questions if you like,
but I'm not sure what the discrepancy
is. Very
clearly, you are saying that again
you I'll pull the tweet up again because
this is an actual problem that I have.
Let's go.
[Music]
Starting from the top, now we're
here. Oh, I probably still had it up.
So, you say about a month ago, Sabers's
victim wanted to reach out to me with
their story that I saw. I was managing
this partially tied coming forward to
the story. I was handling a lot right
now. Suicidal. The topic is very
triggering for me on a personal level.
Unfortunately, covering her story was
not at the time. However, however, know
that KP was already working on a
video. So what you're saying here is you
did not also attest to the validity of
the accuser's claims. But however, you
are speaking on Twitter with full
understanding and knowledge like you
know who the victim is that you
understand all of the claims being
levied against Saber
Spark. That's not what you're saying
here. You're backtracking.
You are backtracking
actively. Where is it specifically? Uh,
we were not able to handle Saber's
victim's story personally, but I was
aware that somebody was else was working
on the video with their own firsthand
experience. To further validate, it made
a lot sense to suggest it out to KP. Why
did you not express that? You are
talking with absolute
certainty. No, that's not true. My
statements do not
contradict.
Okay. Okay. I'll leak DMs. I don't give
a
[\h__\h] Let me pull up the DM cuz this is
annoying.
Now, all right, let's go. Let's go.
I'll go over the
DMs. I reach out to you this past
Friday, which would have been what is
Friday.
Friday was the 3rd. Oh, sorry. Second.
Third.
Yeah. Uh, listen my friends. Whatever.
Good day. I represent a small commentary
YouTube channel. I was wondering if you
had comments regarding the recent KP
video. I've seen you've made some
comments publicly, but I'm curious on
how the accuser in question reached out
to you uh or how the story was validated
and how PK KP got involved with this
with the separate entities. Uh you
should know covering this the victim's
story, the video is irrelevant to
anything. It barely existed at
all. I understand that. But
unfortunately, it is part of the way
this broke. I strive to get a fuller
picture of the narrative and this
happened to be a part of it. Even if you
do not wish to comment on how the story
was brought to KP, I'm still curious how
the individual reached out to you and
how you were able to ensure its
validity. The victim saw my coverage on
black of Black Griffin and how well the
reception was to those who previously
felt like they couldn't speak and wanted
to reach out. This is how I know their
identity and was able to judge their
credibility. Where is it? Where is it
now? Cuz now I'm like actively annoyed.
You got to scroll down. you. Yeah.
Scroll down.
Uh or did I do it in this one? Cuz I
have so many of these now.
Scroll down. You didn't keep it. Uh
where'd I
go? Am I crazy? I was not able to handle
this the blah blah blah blah
specifically with their own their own
firsthand experiences to further
validate. You said privately you
validated it already. And then you're
like, "Oh, but I just believed them off
rip." So which is
it? Did you believe them off
rip or were you
able you do you not see how this is
contradictory? You said you were able to
validate their story and the validity of
who they were here. You said you
couldn't further validate it. Are you
insane? You realize this victim is
[\h__\h] now. If this person is telling
the truth, you are complicit in [\h__\h]
their
story and you are too stupid to see
it. Like, I don't understand how you do
not see that. That is a blatant
contradiction of statements. The DM you
sent me is not consistent with this
post at all.
You were suicidal. Oh my. Sophie
couldn't handle it. It was most
triggering to
you. So which is
it that it was
triggering? I would Okay. Yes, I know
who they are and I trust them. I think
you're sound you sounded acting insane.
No, he's just very disappointed in you
and how you're handling this. I Yes.
Yeah, I'm disappointed. You want to know
why? Cuz I've went through your Black
Griffin stuff. I actually like that
document. That's hilar. You are
contradicting
[Laughter]
yourself. Oh my
god. Buddy, buddy, buddy.
body. Uh, at the outblock, the wife of
Black Griffin, Scooter's VA, tweeted out
that this guy made inappropriate
comments about the character when she
was still a minor. Bonk, is that
true? Bonk, is that
true? The statements don't contradict. I
don't know what your issue is.
Let let me say plain you plainly as
someone who isn't FGI. You lied in DMs
to him and you're saying something
differently in public. Mhm. Is that what
you're saying? You're saying you will
lie to people behind the scenes but
you'll say the truth in public or you're
going to say the truth behind the scenes
and lie in public. Which is the truth?
What which truth is the one that you
want to go with? That you didn't vet
them or that you did vet them? Yeah, I'm
Listen, I'm Italian by nature.
defense. I don't know. I could be more
calm about it. So, you will listen. I'll
slow down even my
speech. You told me that you were able
to vet this far past the idea of I just
passed it off immediately to
KP. And
then you are saying publicly that you
and the other person that run this
account were too suicidal and mentally
compromised to verify further parts of
the
claim. I need you to understand
this. I'll be a little bit nicer when I
say
it. I did not lie. I did not say two
different stories. I said I wasn't going
to cover the story, but I did still
investigate them.
Where do you say
that? Where do you say that in this
public speech as you were denouncing
KP? Where did you say
that? Would you like me to reread your
statement for you? And I'll do it
clearly so you
understand. Uh because because I think
there's an important part where you say
it.
Uh exposure. You also knew about KP's
past. Interesting how you know about
KP's past dramas, too, by the way. I
think that that's
interesting. Reached out to me
privately. I knew about DA Games. Was
already very preoccupied and it fell out
of my brony fandom centric wheelhouse.
Obviously, you couldn't cover the DA
game stuff. That's
fine. Uh, so when we were not personally
able to handle the victim's story, I was
aware of somebody else who already could
with their firstand experience to
further validate it. It made it
suggested to reach out to KP. We are we
were not involved any further. I did not
pitch this KP. I suggested to the victim
and until a week and a half ago, that
was it. Prior, I had left PAFP's server.
I'll explain that in a bit when it's
more relevant
to. I did investigate the victim prior
and had no reason to doubt them or their
motives. I did not, however, have
extensive conversations with them.
So what you're saying
is and Sophie had no involvement at all.
So when you say I had no ex we were too
mentally compromised to handle the
story. We uh we understand what the
victim is. I don't know what your level
of investigation is. What is your level
of vetting knowing that the person in
Saber Spark went to a [\h__\h] con
together?
When I when somebody asks you if how did
you vet
this and your statement is I
investigated
it and then now it's like well I didn't
investigate it
enough. You're literally saying I like
the person enough to believe them off
rip.
Again, this is insane. I'm telling
you, this is not how you portray it to
every and it's not just to me. It's not
how you portrayed it. Why are you the
one making the public statement for the
victim
then? Why are you the one making the
public statement for the
victim? Do you understand that? When you
make the public statement for the victim
and then you at their throwaway Twitter,
you are speaking for the victim. You are
complicit in the video's creation. Why
are you acting I need I need you to
understand this. Why are you acting like
you weren't complicit in this
way? Yes. Like like quite says,
clarifying the metric of what you used
would have made it far more trustworthy
and elucidate whatever you're coming
from. Yeah. I have never claimed I had
physical proof. I have only claimed I
believe that they're trustworthy. I
investigated the victim prior and had no
reason to doubt them or their
motives. I am
sorry. I'm incredibly sorry, but that
statement that you just made actually
contradicts this then. So, you just
believed
them. Again, I'm going to highlight your
own statement and I need you. I never
claim to have any physical
proof. How do you
know that the accuser is connected to
Saber Spark then? Because she's showing
proof now.
And you brought this to a person who
wants to make a video on Saber Spark.
All of these statements are the same.
They are They are not. They're not.
Greg, you are not. Greg, they get away
from me cuz I
You're the nicer one. Uh I don't feel
very nice right now. What? You're
actively trying to both sides
this. That's how this is coming up to
me, someone who has not looked at this
yet.
From an outsers's perspective, looking
at your Twitter account, from what
you're saying, having heard allegations,
passing it off to somebody else,
trusting it wholeheartedly, and then
saying that you investigated it, but not
enough to investigate it yourself, not
enough to to vet it properly. How often
do you do this? You've done a Black
Griffin topic. I don't know who the hell
that is, but Fouchy said you did good on
that one. How come you couldn't do this
one? Yeah. What makes this one
different? Is it KP? Is it the KP
Saberspark connection?
Were you Have you guys been taken
advantage of by a YouTuber? We should
like Why aren't you coming forward with
that? Like, if this is like
legitimately, if this is triggering to
you, why have you not come over with
with your
statement? Listen, I think he did all
right with it. I thought it was the
document is okay and people are running
with it.
Is that going to take the guy down? I
[\h__\h] know it's not really.
But this is the same thing that happened
with Slazo.
Yeah.
Yeah. Quite is is absolutely right. I'm
going to prompt you because I'm really
trying to quite is trying to help you.
Go into detail as much as you can. The
burden of proof that you felt
trustworthy. Even over explain it when
you can without compromising anyone.
Yeah.
Like I
like I can apologize for being
heated. I think you're all very stuck in
a perspective extremely heated, but
you're not open to accepting I have not
done what you claimed I did.
I'm I'm sorry.
you. I'm just letting you know the the
way you're acting right now. Whatever
you come forward with in the future is
going to be highly suspect and
critically reviewed by every single
person and you are going to have a lot
harder time going forward if you can't
accept that you made a mistake. Yeah,
bro. You you doing this whole it it's
not me, it's everyone else.
It's not It's not doing yourself any
favors right now. I I can listen. Let me
let me take Let me uh teach you
something real
quick. I'm angry as performative nature
because this is my brand. If you'd like,
I could be therapist me.
So
bonk your statements do contradict to
the greater audience that I have here of
over 200 people as well as to myself the
person who is presenting this
information. My question to you is this.
Can you fully explain without
compromising this person that you vetted
them
enough that you felt like this was
appropriate? because you talk with
certainty in other
spots.
Okay. I
see. I
see. I'm sorry that you feel that way. I
truly am. I'm not putting things that
you I have chosen for you. If you can
show with evidence that I'm wrong, I'd
love it.
But right now, I don't and I still
believe the accuser exists. There are
other people that have confirmed
it, but I really think that this is very
sad. It's actually really, really sad.
Um, and I feel bad for this
accuser if this person really
experienced this, which again there's a
little holes in their story either.
There's the obvious glaring issue of
them having a crush on Saber Spark that
they are obvious to, but say that Saber
Spark is the one that took advantage of
it. I'm going to be very honest.
It's not a great
look and I'm very
sorry. I've only ever claimed that I
believe and trust the victim. I never
once claimed that I had information that
I was withholding.
That's not true because you know the
vict No, that's not true. remember
because you heard the story and you
investigated the victim enough to
believe that the correlation was
there. Your statement is okay, brother
or or woman, what whomever you are, I
have your statement up here. I have your
statement from the
DMs. I'm just going to ask one more
time. How did you fully vet this person?
because you come off with an air of
authority that I don't think you may or
may not have right
now. And I and I'm trying I'm going to
like I said the anger thing is
performative. I can be
calm and it's I do think that this
victim's story is screwed
now. And it's actually really
sad.
Yeah. And it and I kind of agree with
Sai like there's an ego issue and it's
the victim said that she spoke with a
trusted friend who knows Bonk. Is that
Amy new?
Is that the individual the VA person who
knows you? Is that who it
is?
Listen, if that is your
evidence, if that person vets it and you
went off a testimony
alone,
like c can you lost in the world, thank
you for the five.
I'll be blunt. You messed up and your
reluctance to even listen to how you did
puts everything you've done into
question. By looking through their
account, there was no reason to believe
false claims is something that's aligned
with their existing posts or that
they're seeking attention. They've
existed in these spaces.
That's not always how the internet
works, though. That's That's not how the
internet works. It's a very naive way to
look at
it.
Again, yeah, they're in the fandom.
Apparently, they're in a
video that they have now kind of
confirmed who they
are. Not the first time they've gone by
testimony alone. So, it wouldn't be
again like this is the
problem. You are point out it's it's not
just Bonk. It's a lot of people that do
this across a lot of different Yes. Uh I
don't want to say dramas, but a lot of
different uh communities too.
Not to belabor the
point, allegedly the victim is in a in a
con video from what I understand. Uh
it's posted on the Reddit. I believe
Gamma covered it. Um we'll probably try
to get to that video.
Um, again, don't want to belver the
point because I
Yeah, as quite says, would you say that
it's fair to characterize your argument
as there was good reason for doubt from
your perspective or so you believe them
what they told you? Yeah, like no good
reason to doubt them. Let me know if any
of us are missing something. That's that
is a really good question. I know it's
not definitive. I've never claimed
anything above believing them and having
looked into them that led me to
believing
them. But the statements could have said
I believe the victim in this case or I
believe
there's like a difference between an
investigation and believing. An
investigation demands like evidence some
you have physical things that can prove
this. Believing someone doesn't need
isn't an investigation. You can believe
a victim but still ask for proof. I've
had someone come to me about a very big
huge story and I don't believe them for
[\h__\h] cuz I can't vet
it. Yeah. But like I think you are now
getting
somewhere. Like I You know what? I'm
going to tell you this right now.
I I'm with you on
this and Quite's right. Is that why you
didn't want to pursue it as the guy
breaking
it? It's okay. Like listen, I actually
really accept your
statement and and listen, we'll wait.
We'll listen. I don't want to detract
from you. I actually think that what
you're saying is very important. Um I
think quite is absolutely correct that
that you are getting
somewhere. I did not want to break it
because I was not mentally well at the
time.
Okay.
So let me ask you this
then. Were you were you yourself able to
ever verify or or or no? And it's okay
if you don't. I just want to be honest.
Were you able to
verify
that these two met in person outside of
a trusted person's testimony?
And again, I won't make fun of you for
for for struggling with your mental
health. I just need to know
this. Outside of the the the testimony
of someone you may have
trusted and looking through their
profile, did they show you any proof of
the correspondence with Sabers Spark?
specifically. I know the Skype DMs are
are deleted. I understand that. But did
they show you any other correspondence
or any other evidence that would have
connected
this? Cuz again, I I agree with you that
KP, I know they have a picture together.
I've seen it, but I cannot share it.
Pretty uh Greg, do you have the the the
gamma thread on on RIP? Could you find
that for me? Believe. So, let me see if
I can. now cuz I'm going to I'm going to
ask you a
question, Bonk. I'm I'm I'm I'm being
legit with you. I'm not mad at you. Not
disappointed in you. I do think you got
wrapped into something. O you and your
friend got wrapped into something over
your head.
But I'm going to grab a picture and and
if you can confirm or deny, I guess
that's the point that we have because if
I can confirm it, you're not you're not
sharing
it because a lot of people have come
forward with a picture um that's like
specifically
related. And again, I want to express
this to everybody in chat as well. Be as
respectful as you could possibly be. I I
like we're not going to [\h__\h] attack
this person. I want to be very clear. My
in my performiveness
aside, but the picture is the only
evidence that you
have and then somebody else's
testimony. You are accusing somebody of
rape. You are, let me, let me rephrase
that, you are backing the accusation
that this man raped somebody.
Gamma said he can't know for sure the
girl in the pick is the alleged victim.
Yeah, I I I know. I know. I
know. I guess you don't have to confirm
or deny. That's
fair. Though I know that she references
something in regards to it.
Um but
yeah, thank you. Thank you again. Uh
Gamma is another uh streamer in the
space. They make some good videos.
Um, yes, I am backing an alleged victim.
I No, I understand that. I understand
that. I'm not taking that away from you.
But if you were not witness to the
evidence that maybe KP would have
had, I do think that this would have
been
very dangerous to place your name
on. And I'm and again, I'm not mad with
you. I don't know you. So being
disappointed in you is is probably
inappropriate. I don't take pity on you.
That's pro that's also
inappropriate. Um but I do want you to
understand
that
it's the picture alone doesn't 100% like
do you told me I contradicted my
statements. You told me I lied. But
ultimately we have just different
interpretations of what investigating
means. I'm going to be honest with you
and truthful.
No, you and I don't have different
interpretations of what investigating
means. You and the internet have
different interpretations of what
investigating means. Yeah. Yeah. Kind
of. Yeah. Yep.
I'm sorry. I I'm really sorry to say
that. When you bring allegations of this
nature, there is a
standard. I I'm I'm I'm being honest
with you. There's a there is a standard
when you bring very serious allegations
like
this.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I I and and and as Quite
says, we understand and I actually I'm I
I agree with what Quite is saying. I
definitely agree that you wanted to hand
this off because you were in a bad
mental spot. I'm that's I get that and
you vetted it to your best of your
abilities,
but it needs to be very sure because of
the
credibility as well as the rest of the
research which we can't see.
And and and I think that that's the
issue. If you say, listen, I'm not going
to put words in your mouth. I I am not
going to do that. It's it's Thank you,
Greg. Um you know, if Yeah, that I don't
you know what? I'm not even going
to. So, this is a picture that's
floating around and apparently one of
these podcasts are referenced. I'm not
going to ask directly if this is the
person, but is this a similar picture
that you were handed? You don't even
have to confirm that this is the person.
Is this a similar
picture? You want to confirm it's the
person? I I I actually don't want that.
If I I think the person should have come
forward, but you have to understand that
like when people say research or
investigation, they're not there are a
lot of familiar names in this chat and
it's not a big group. Many people here
have harassed me and it's not a sense of
criticizing me harshly actual
harassment. I don't trust this
community. You don't know me from [\h__\h]
the shyola. We do not cover ACC
animation stuff very often. Um, it's
it's something that we touch here and
there. I am asking you. I don't know
people in chat. There's a lot of new
faces in
chat. I could tell you right now there's
a lot of new faces in chat and I don't
know you specifically. That's fine.
That's fine. But I'm coming at you very
calmly and politely. Again, anger is
performative
stuff. What I what I want what I'm
asking you
right is is very simply do you do you
see what people are are
are understanding and and what because
this chat is is not just reflective of
of of us and people who who quote who
may have or may not harassed
you. This is chat is emblematic of a
greater commentary community at large
who is supposed to believe this
statement. No. Again, I don't care about
about the the suit. Again, I don't want
anybody to be
sued, but I I think that and I'm be I'm
trying to give you a lot of grace, man.
Victim is not in the picture. Thank you.
That's fair. But this is a similar
picture that you would have gotten. Was
this a similar picture you
got or is there like a private picture
between them? Like more private than
this? Like far more private than this?
Are you saying like is it that like the
photo like as in similar as in like a
public con photo? Yes. Like is it a a a
a photo that was taken in like a con
booth or was this at like a dinner
something like that or is them by
themselves with
friends
yeah I did not ask for private photos.
Anything I saw was posted
publicly. Okay.
Okay.
Okay. I'll ask you
this. I can't even ask this because I
actually like like I actually I don't
want the victim to be like kind of like
exploded for. But like was there Twitter
correspondence at least between Saber
Spark and this person? Like like I I'm
like I'm asking
legitimately. Um, like you know, just
like just like uh like Quite is saying
like we I'm I'm not I'm taking at your
word that your investigation and
stuff.
Um, but again, I I I'm not insulting
you. I'm just saying that I I think that
like maybe just maybe this needed a
little bit more time and
dedication and passing off somebody
else's research. and and I will I can
hold to the
fact yes the alleged victim has only at
this time showed they showed they went
to the con same con at one or a con at
one point yes
um again I don't want there's more info
I give the more info I give the more
people will be able to piece things
together I don't want to say anything
the victim does not approve of
okay guys be chill
Be
chill. It's
okay. Just be
chill. I will say this to you, B again.
I'm being very genuine when I say
this. I think that this was handled very
poorly and I don't think it's just on KP
alone.
I do think that there's a level of
responsibility you need to
take. I think the issue is Bon is afraid
that the victims will be found out and
forced to come out like Sophie was for
the Griffin stuff potentially. I I I I I
listen, I get you, but I
think personally, because it does feel
like you're throwing a lot of shame and
shade toward KP's way,
uh I I think
that there's a level of responsibility
that's not fully being taken by just
saying, "Yeah, I looked at their public
profile and I don't think that this
would have been their character.
That's just that's just me.
Okay.
We because and I will
admit you did change like and I get it.
Maybe KP didn't show you
everything but she didn't show everyone.
She didn't show anyone everything. Yeah.
And you, Destiny, one of Griffin's
victim was outed by someone who figured
it out who she was and harassed
constantly. I do not want this for the
victim. That's fair. Okay, that's
actually
fair. We don't want that. I I actually
don't want that either. I'll be very
honest. But my question to you is this,
because I will finish the video tonight.
This is going to be a very long stream,
chat. I apologize.
But my question to you is
this. Do you think that you maybe jumped
the gun? Yeah. Unfortunately, the
victims already in that position now.
People are going to try to find them.
They're also going to find them and now
their friend has spoken up about
it. I don't want to see any victims
harmed.
But again, yeah, we're just frustrated
with the vetting process. I think that
that's ultimately because the vetting
process isn't good enough. and it and it
sucks to say
that and I'm sorry. Okay, so I I I will
give you the time to speak uh things
like
that. Um okay, people what what am I
seeing here?
Uh,
okay. I have gotten some
screenshots and I think yeah, so I'm
going to move on with some screenshots
that paint this a lot worse. Again,
Bonk, if you're listening to this,
you're still in the chat. I'm not mad
with you again.
But I do think that your statement does
lack a level of accountability and
transparency that you had in and and
when you had with the authority of your
previous
posts. Um I'm going to try to do this in
the order that I
can. KJ, I don't know about this
picture. I don't want to share this
picture. Uh yeah.
Uh, we knew that the that the people
were getting involved want to figure out
who she was by the nature of how so
serious it was, but the easier it is,
the higher chance it goes up and with
less doubt. Yeah. And again, I'll say
this to you, Bonk. You're actually in
this chat. Courtney and KP are not in
this
chat. I don't see
them. You're here. I may not agree with
all your takes and I think you need to
hold a higher standard of accountability
for
yourself, but you're here. I can respect
that. I can actually respect
that. Like fully, fully in all honesty,
I agree with White. I can respect it.
This is KP's face. Okay, she shares her
face. I know she's public
online, but I can respect it.
So, these are some things I guess are
coming out of KP server that I will have
to now address because this is
from November of last
year. Regarding Mad, he's taking
misinformation and running with it
constantly. Seems like the dude has some
word grievance bottled up uh to blank.
KP goes on to say, "I believe he got
jealous of my acquaintance with Courtney
at the last time at this time and mad I
didn't ban someone on his preferences. I
honestly believe he had his feelings for
he had feelings for
me. This is size
server."
Interesting. Thank
you. Because it makes no other sense. So
again, yeah, I just got this. This was
just like this was just passed to
me. So again, she continues KP is
continuing to claim people are
romantically interested in
her. I believe [\h__\h] had a real
crush on you. How do you know the
singularity unfortunately luck with
people? I do not expect uh people don't
expect me to be pretty IRL and think I'm
one of the boys and try to woo me. Saber
Spark tried
uh Okay. Saber Spark tried. I'm not
secret that I can't stand Saber
Spark. People expect me. Okay. And then
she has a [\h__\h] list and then shares
her face.
I bonk, if you're still in the chat, I
hope this teaches you that you need to
vet the people you pass info to like
hard vet
them. We're going to finally get to the
Saber Spark
allegations seven hours later.
Oh my god. But this is a woman with
literal I'm not going to lie to you.
This is a woman with a [\h__\h] axe to
grind.
That's one way to put it.
Yeah. And people [\h__\h] up. I'm only
Listen, I get it. People do [\h__\h] up. Um
again, uh I'll say it again.
Um, I want to give a shout out to Bonk
for actually being in chat. I don't know
if he's going to I don't know he they or
Sophie are going to watch the rest of
this
stream, but if you do, I want you to
stick around for it. I think it's
important. I know that now, but the
victim doesn't. They aren't just a saber
hater. I don't believe that
either, but there are issues with their
testimony that I'm going to be honest
about.
Okay, so here we go.
This isn't just some rando being a dick
because he's mad at me for existing on
the internet. I think that's why this
sucks a little bit more figures cuz
[\h__\h] love bringing up old stuff.
Something else to keep in mind is the
loss of reputation, which is hard to
recover from. How did the receivers of
the story, knowing that it's false or
not, going to feel about the person who
the story is being told about? I didn't
know this was happening, and I can't
defend myself for my reputation if I'm
not fair. If it was a collaborator I was
interested in working with at the time,
he would definitely have negative
feelings about working with me now. What
happens if the story spreads or room
becomes disordered through a game of
telephone and changes depending on the
teller? First impressions can last
months or even years and will
psychologically affect personal
treatment and ideals. Yeah, the cutaway
choice was insane, wasn't it? This is a
choice. It's almost like it's two hours
and nothing but bad cutaway choices.
Yep. Yes. Please like and subscribe
chat. Listen, if you like what we do
here, we try to vet things live. We try
to at least do right by people. Please
like and subscribe. Thank you. Thank
you.
Of contrary evidence. See the political
landscape. This is not something Chris
came to me about after it happening. We
seemingly had a decent rapport up to
this point. Chris could have admitted
this happened years ago and I would have
still been pissed and at least he would
have owned up. You did not have a decent
rapport. You didn't have a decent
rapport. You two. You [\h__\h] talked
him. You didn't have a decent rapport.
Be
honest. You were mad that he worked for
DA Games.
Come on, apology. But instead, I had to
hear it from a witness. It makes me feel
like crap. It makes me feel like my
personal comfort, safety, and privacy is
less important than convenience or the
bro code. At the same point, I want to
analyze the implications of
mistreatment. Like, if Chris really felt
this way, I don't know why it didn't
come up at that moment he was making
those jokes or after or even when I
confronted him.
Bonk, that's fine. I meant thank you for
Thank you for being here. I hope for
what it's worth, I hope mentally you do
okay. Take care of yourself.
Seriously. Uh, a reminder that this
drama ranges from 10 to 13 years old.
This drama is almost too old for Will
Ryan. Yes, indeed. It came up an apology
statement as a vague reference. This is
actual sexualized art, a sexualized
story, buying me a Discord figure years
ago. And he also made comments on my
body when I did the ice bucket
challenge. So, three sex things plus a
romantic gesture. Chris may have been
bitter because I didn't reciprocate
feelings or something. Turns out any
isn't a winning strategy for dating KP.
Where? Where? Where did he do that
though? Is this all hearsay? Come on.
You can't stop stop doing hearsay.
These allegations are massive. Yes.
Thank you. If if there's comments, rude
comments or otherwise, if you have them,
you could show them here. You You're
showing a million cutaway gags. You
could show y you could show them saying
a shitty comment. And like I said, and
if you've come into the chat, I know
some of the people who were in the part
of the DA games allegations are here.
Like I said, if you want to speak out, I
am here for you. Uh we'll redo your
interview, obviously.
[Music]
Things got worse. Hi, I'm Courtney. You
may know me as Pete or Orchard, but
honestly, call me what you like. KP
reached out to me a few weeks ago asking
me to cover the Gabe story in more
detail as she was busy working on this
video here and I unfortunately have a
fair share of experience with
recognizing online grooming and I'm
pretty unashamed in speaking out loudly
against it. Gabriel C. Brown, also known
as Black Griffin online, has had growing
speculations and concerns regarding his
relationship with his now wife and voice
actress of Sweetie Bell and My Little
Pony. From most accounts, it looks as if
Gabe had groomed his now wife from the
time she was 14. They met when she was
15 16 to 14 is an is an incorrect date.
14 is an incorrect age from what I can
tell.
already incorrect
statement. Also missing the context that
they were all together because what
their bet their mutual friend's mom
there's nothing wrong with admitting
your faults. Those who don't refuse to
grow don't refuse to grow. Bonk. Thank
you very much. Thank you very much. Uh
lost. We're still not on Saber Spark
yet. The mom you're talking about? Yes,
the mom. The mom. Uh, this girl's mom, I
can't remember her [\h__\h] name. We'll
go into it. The video, paired these
three together at
cons. They were a package deal. You
leaving that out is actually terrible
because you're not you're leaving out
like the most important part that this
whole thing is a problem.
After their announced engagement and
subsequent marriage, Gabe faced growing
accusations online of grooming his wife.
He dismissed the accusations under the
guise that he had not known her prior to
her being 20. And any interactions they
did have while she was a minor were
strictly professional and inconvention
spaces only. Correction. Correction.
They were not friends until they were
20. Very important correction. Not that
he didn't know who she was and that was
strictly professional, which it wasn't.
I want to make that very clear. But that
they were not friends until she was of
age. Very important.
A Google document has since been created
compiling evidence from Gabe and his
wife's own Twitter and YouTube
dismissals to be false as well as
proving multiple other instances of Gabe
showcasing problematic behavior. Fun
fact, do you see you see
this? You see this? By the way, do you
want to know who else is in this video?
This video that she's showing on screen
cuz it's from a brony
thing. Ah, would it be KP is in this
video? Yes, indeed. Cuz it's from a
Brony fandom
video. Yes, Black Griffin and his wife
tooured in 2015. They had the same like
similar management at the time. You can
grab it. I mean, she's in the video.
Wait, limo. No shot. Okay. Uh, Killjoy,
grab the video. Let's do it. Let's show.
And again, I want to make it very clear.
This is clearly an edited together video
where they're doing black caricatures.
[\h__\h] abhorant, by the way. Look at
the names. Yes, they are
Latoya. Uh, yes, it is Latoya Alofa
Williamson and somebody else. We'll get
there. We'll get there. That's crazy.
Wow.
I've covered the topic in a little more
depth in an hourong video on my channel,
which will no doubt be linked in the
description below. Anyway, I'm sprinkled
throughout this video a few times.
You're not sprinkling. Did you uh
explain who Courtney was again now that
we're at the 7 a.m.? Anybody want to
take a break and teeter totter with me?
Okay, so for those who don't know,
Courtney uh is is the sister of Lily
Orchard, who has been assaulted by Lily
Orchard in the history, like sexually
assaulted, uh things like that. I'm not
going to go into too deep a detail
because I have to rip Lily apart later,
but you
know, I'm losing my mind.
Okay. Again, you should and I see it in
the chat, guys. I'm just going to say it
now. Bonk came in. I want to make this
very
clear, but Bonk came in and tried to
explain their position and they were at
least open to the fact that we have
disagreements on the idea of research.
Now, I do think that their their their
version is anemic and very poor and bad
and not good, but I'm not going to sit
here and say that they don't have the
opportunity to grow and change.
Girl, what you doing on the teeter
totter with your lazy? Was I? Oh, hey,
look. Is there other people? How did she
not feel that? I wonder who this
is. Wonder who this is.
And I wonder who they are. Oh, no. No,
no, no. Let's go back. Let's go back. Is
watch the muffin disappear.
Huh.
Interesting. Is this not the person
who's being accused of a groomer and now
his wife? Again, they definitely knew
each other and were friendly with each
other. Huh? I wonder who was in this
video.
Oh, is it both of these
people? Are you in this video? Again,
want to make it very clear that these
are clearly recordings outside of
things, but you're okay being in this
video and never called out the clearly
racist
caricatures. Really weird, huh?
Yeah. What's up?
I have to be at work tomorrow. Oh. I I
duck out, guys. It's okay, buddy. Good
night. Good night. You're the best. Go
Eevee. Go Eevee to sleepy. I am I'm
angry. Eevee to sleepy. I know. I will
listen to you be angry before I fall
asleep. Yep. Well, to the sound of my
anger. Good night, chat. Good night,
bud. Good night.
Again, the fact that she has collabed
with them in any capacity should have
immediately been disclosed. You only
took a dinner like hours ago and I have
not warmed it up. I haven't eaten me.
It's okay. It's fine. Again, the fact
that they've collabed in any capacity
should be disclosed.
Querious. Curious how it's not.
Curious how it's not. But curious how
Courtney takes over this. Put me in,
coach. I'll sit in the call. Quite, you
can come in. Uh, are you in our Discord,
by the way? I don't know. Are you
actually in our Discord?
Somebody give quite the Discord.
Is any of the mods awake to give the
Discord? [\h__\h] it. Add
me. Wait. Oh, wait. I can add you as a
friend because we have mutuals involved.
Oh, wait. We have Diesel's Discord. What
am I
stupid? Uh, okay.
Holy [\h__\h] Uh, oh, yeah. How do I do
this at quite? How do I I don't know how
to [\h__\h] do this thing. Um, how do I
can invite him? There we go. Yeah,
invite. Oh, lord. Uh, he can hop in
general or if he can see waiting, he'll
get the uh later. Uh, add his friend.
I'll make sure you get the creator tag
now. There he is. I'm grabbing him.
Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Welcome.
This is going to go really well, I'm
sure.
You share screen in this? Uh, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. It's all right. I'm loing. I
got it pulled up. You You have to mute F
because of the way he has.
Oh, the slob father. Oh, yeah.
Unfortunately, I got allegations on me
apparently. Trans Ultron. Trans Ultron.
Sorry, I forgot that. I didn't realize
you guys use Fuji. We're keeping We're
keeping it. How do you No, I'm not ch to
be clear. I'm not changing it. Um
Oh, Jesus Christ. All right, let's let's
get into this [\h__\h]
mess. Okay.
I became a fan of Saber Spark when I was
in high school when I found his essay
titled Ballad of the Brony in 2011.
After graduating and turning 18, I added
him on Skype to tell him I was a big fan
of his. He added me back almost this is
being read or if this is them. So, this
is read by Bomets. Yeah, Bomets I guess
is a stiffer person. Yeah, they're like
a double. Okay. Okay. So, someone's
doing the voice work. That's it. Yes,
they got uh I don't know how long you've
been in chat for this, but Oh, no. You
sped up, but like Yes. Like June the
King sped up. Didn't read chat too much.
Uh June the King was in this video. Uh
and other Yeah, it has the It has the
cameos. Yeah, the cameos wild.
[\h__\h] animation Avengers, I guess. I
don't know. I was about to say this
feels like a terrible Marvel movie. This
feels like the worst Marvel movie and
they're just all sex pests. Be fat. I
didn't say that. You said that. I did. I
don't give a [\h__\h]
I'll say. See, like the phrasing makes
it sounds like the features were the sex
fested. That's not great. What are you
saying though, June the King? I just
heard it about the sex. Wait, I think
that's a bad way to say that.
You joined the wrong [\h__\h] right.
People look at people probably look at
me sideways for getting a diesel
streams. I'm not too worried.
Oh, that's awesome. Let's go. His phone
number, which was a really big deal to
me at the time since this was the first
time interacting with any sort of
celebrity. I had developed a parasocial
crush on him due to being starruck,
which was something he was aware of. We
would talk on Skype and text each other
semi-frequently leading up to the first
time meeting him. In 2012, I went to my
first pony convention. This I want to
say something very clear before I go on
to this because this is like this is the
problem. Unfortunately, with the level
of the allegations
being levied, Saber Spark was not a 2
million sub channel at the time. He was
proverbally a brony glo
[\h__\h]
[Laughter]
His he I didn't say anything. I didn't
say anything.
That's like the worst That's the worst
title you can give anybody. I I got to
like say this so people understand. He
didn't get 100k subs. He was famous back
then in the Brody community. You guys
are [\h__\h] You guys don't It means
nothing. Am I You guys are micro celebs.
It's I mean derogatory. Wrong question
to ask. I
wrong wrong question to ask.
Was it substantial enough? It's like I
don't know like if he if he had an
audience
But
also, I didn't say anything.
I think my whole my whole thing is and
and this is my issue. He is going to be
judged by the 2 million subs to the
community at large. Yep. And not the
brony infamy that he
had. That's the issue I have. Yeah. You
know, I'm this is the only comparison
I'm going to draw it on myself during
this because I do not want to dig into
that bag with something like this. Um,
but it's like person who said the thing
I did [\h__\h] it was like before I had
anything and then they did like use
similar framing. So, yeah, we're not I
won't go into that. Not that big. Not
that big. Yeah, it goes both ways, I
suppose, is like the real takeaway.
Yeah, I agree. I 100% agree. All right,
let's get back to Oh, yeah. Yeah.
aerodynamics. This is my first time ever
traveling by myself and with
Why did you say that? I'm gonna scratch
out. I can't believe that phrase.
Does Saber get got any deleted vids from
2012? I'm not looking. I'm not I don't I
don't know how to tell. Allegedly there
are. Um, again, allegedly there are, but
I Y'all don't get to see what I made
when I was 12. [\h__\h] y'all,
man. I deleted all my old videos. I
thought they were cringe.
I have more delete videos on my OG
channel than I have videos on it. I'm
just I'm just not on the internet. I
hate to tell you this. I'm literally an
old man who's here.
My current YouTube channel was made in
2012. How does that make you feel? I
think mine is years old. I don't know
when this one was made. Not entirely
sure cuz I didn't subscribe to people
for the longest time on YouTube. That's
fair. I'm going to stop sidetracking cuz
it's easy to fall down that you're fine.
Mhm. Us became friends. When I met up
with him in person, he invited me to his
hotel room and he showed me the video he
was editing on his laptop, causing me to
internally geek out. I was really
nervous being alone in a hotel with
someone I was a huge fan of and had a
crush on. But I tried to play it cool.
He was four to five years older than me,
making me feel more nervous and out of
place. He would bring up the prospects
of the two of us dating and how it
didn't feel right for us to do so. After
that, he almost immediately initiate.
But why why would he bring up the Oh
god, I have to say this. You're 18 years
old.
I Okay, so we talk Okay, we're talking
about fan stuff. We're talking about
parasociality. You met up. You were
friends. Why? He brought you to his
room. You had a crush on
him. He is talking about you two
dating. Why would he do that?
I'm sorry, but why would he do that? If
not, that was a topic of discussion
elsewhere.
I'm I hate this is I [\h__\h] hate
picking apart these things.
Making out with me and guided me to his
bed. In this moment, he did not directly
ask me for consent. I was thrown onto
his bed and he would insert himself into
me. Saber Spark was
also significantly larger than me as I
was an 80s something pound 18-year-old
girl. So, I physically could not stop
him. I felt extremely nervous and
uncomfortable because I had never
experienced having any sort of sexual
intimacy with someone I was not dating
before, much less someone I just met. I
was very new to meeting people online in
general. At that moment, I laid there
dissociating as I felt very wrong while
trying to rationalize it. In my head to
convince myself it was a safe and normal
encounter. He brushed off the clean and
finished himself and came back to the
bed and offered me a handshake saying,
"Friends, this would cause me for
what the
[\h__\h]
I I'm I Oh god. Did Did he see the
relationship as friends with benefits
and she didn't? I don't know. But
because that Well, that's the other
thing and Sai kind of points it out.
It's like there there and I hate doing
this. I love you. I [\h__\h] hate doing
this, but there are steps
missing because was the make out non-con
was the make out
non-consensual or was the sex non like
We're going to get into a We're going to
get into a consent discussion because
it's actually in this video. There is a
whole parasocial consent discussion in
this
video. I will couch this and wait for
it.
For the rest of the event to feel that I
was taken advantage of and ashamed of
myself for not trying to stop the
interaction. Though I tried pretending I
was fine to everyone around me, I was
and still am demisexual and being put in
that position was not something I
wanted. I maintained the friendship
until a second occurrence happening at a
completely different point. But why?
Okay, but I I I got to stop this cuz I'm
annoyed and I So Rooster Brewster in
chat said this is apparently the only
section the victim saw.
Yeah, I was about to say I think Bonk
also confirmed that or uh not
necessarily the full amount, just a
small section. We can assume it's this
end part. Yeah. Of the Yeah, I would
assume the most amount just for
charitability.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm not blaming the I hate
to say I'm not blaming the victim uh or
don't hate to say this. I'm not blaming
the victim for the video. I want to make
this very clear. The problem I have is
levels of their statement. also
knowing that uh according to to
Bonk in in uh screenshots,
um um um KP assisted in writing
statements for people or writing like a
weird press release thing that they
should put out.
I don't This all started when we let
liberals start making commentary videos,
man. [\h__\h] You're right. You're right.
You're right. We used to listen chat. We
used to just like Oh, I was going to say
something crazy. You either used to be
racist or woke. What happened? We used
to suck and [\h__\h] behind closed doors,
chat. What happened?
Um,
Vosch happened. What? I don't know. A Q&
A. This was the video.
exposed themed short Q. They were going
to do a [\h__\h] Q&A tomorrow. We have a
They were going to do a full [\h__\h] Q&A
on this. There's no way this is coming
out tomorrow. I I I I think it's been
it's been pretty obvious that like I've
been keeping this closer to the chest
than maybe I would with someone else
cuz, you know, don't want to push down
too hard. Yeah, that's insane.
He's like, "Hey, do you want to hear
this wacky sex assault clip from my
[\h__\h] exposed video?" Not not not even
just like the short. It's like multitude
release. It's like somebody said in chat
like the point of the video is to get
views. Yeah. Like no [\h__\h] Uh it's like
to me the timeline
like that that's like that part. Was it
the Avengers? like [\h__\h] Marvel's but
like this is something [\h__\h] Raycon
gives to you and says this is when you
have to post a [\h__\h] thing. That's
what I'm saying. This is a sponsored dog
sponsor upload dog. [\h__\h] Christ.
This group, this [\h__\h] rape allegation
sponsored by Pd. Like what the
[\h__\h] She pings everyone in her Discord
with a new Oh, yeah. Oh, Bonk. I'm
sorry. Uh, another came forward talking
about how they were roommates with the
victim and experienced their crying
retelling of the assault at the con it
happened at.
Thank you. Wait, no, that's Wait, wait,
wait. No, that's not No, that's real. I
didn't read the whole screenshot.
Someone said other videos in production
after Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No, like when
you do this [\h__\h] if it's not your
normal thing, you got no other plans
until it's done, dog. Again, sexual
assault Q&A. Miscellaneous Q&A. What the
[\h__\h] would the Q&A be about? Q&A. I can
understand like trying to clear up
misconceptions assuming it had gone
well. But the problem is you would have
to have the victim involved in that Q&A.
You would have to out the victim at that
point. You can't answer question. The
best comparison I can make I agree, but
the best you comparison I could make is
like content deputy in its prime. Yeah.
Where it's like
you you know what I'm saying? Ethan
Destiny. Ethan. Uh uh Bonk, you're back.
Take this out.
Bonk, cuz you're here. Did you know
about this this Q&A? I thought Bunk was
gone. No, Bunk came back. Buck came back
to say that there were other allegations
which I know are out. I I I we have
them.
Uh we got a guy in the chair.
Yeah. Bunk says, "No, I didn't.
This is what I'm saying. Like again, I
do think that you had well intentions.
There are holes in the story. I'm going
I'm going to be
honest. But I'm going to FJ, I'm going
ask you personally to be charitable like
postlazo [\h__\h] It's hard for me not to
feel for someone like even remotely
close to that position. Not nice, but
you know. Oh, I was I was just about to
say that. I was just about to say what
I'm charitable about is that I don't
think
I think you chose the wrong person,
dude. I think you I personally believe
you need to You probably hurt your own
ability to get closure on this, man. I'm
sorry. Yeah. Like it like I I haven't
heard of KP before today. Like this is
just poor practice. Yeah. Like it like
it's rough. Yeah. And I and I need you
to understand the reason why I I kind of
came to you and said that like it's not
mine in your definition of investigating
but the larger internet at large is
because everyone is going to lump you
with
KP. Everyone is going to lump you
now. Like straight up I I I and I'm
sorry. I really am. But everyone's gonna
lump the fact that all of this
happened and you sent this you you sent
them to her.
Sorry. No, it's fine. I don't think a
Q&A is necessarily bad if they can't
speak with a victim. There are a lot of
other things that people might have
wanted questions to. Still, a Q&A would
have
Yeah, you can just say it couldn't be
bad. You You don't have to couch it. But
I wouldn't couch it, dude. I wouldn't
KP isn't on your side in this. She's had
she covered it well. Yeah. Had she like
done it right the first time, I think
you earned yourself the credibility to
like respond to some common queries.
Yeah. Like but you like you either need
to have that reputation already where if
you made a mistake, people are willing
to hear you out like what went wrong in
the process or what did we miss? Um, but
if you don't have that, you need to
knock it out the park the first time you
do it. And you need to prove that you
came at it with the right intentions
without a doubt. Yeah. You can't with
stuff like this. No, you can't. Like
it's sensitive. It sucks. It's why I
stopped doing it. Like it's hard. Yeah.
Like like I don't I empathize with that
part of like the process, the
difficulty, but like it still has real
world effects. Firsthand experience.
[\h__\h] Yeah. Well, well, I think that
but that's that's the issue is that like
invoid of a Q&A could be good but not
one. But like yes, I agree with you. The
problem is and and this is where I will
disagree with quite the problem is is
that you do need like the victim has to
come forward in a per like the victim
had to have been comfortable to go
forward for a Q&A because how is the
victim going to respond when people have
questions about their statement? A
throwaway account is not good enough.
I'll say it depends on how well you can
tie up things while they're anonymous,
which is like you're like for your first
time, you're making the needle you have
to thread harder and harder and harder
where it's like are at this point if
you're planning with this, is this
something you should be taking on? Yeah.
Like and that's assuming the best of
intentions from KP.
Yeah. And and and Kelly's kind of right.
There really shouldn't be questions when
you ex when you make an expose because
all the questions are supposed to be
answered. It's supposed to be on Saber
Spark to do I I So I said this with the
um with the [\h__\h] dog pack [\h__\h] even
though he's dog [\h__\h] and I Mr. Beast is
going to I have no doubt that Mr. Beast
has sued him and he's somewhere in
Guatemala right now in a [\h__\h] labor
camp.
Um, the right the right way to do these
things sometimes is to withhold
information until the person you're
accusing makes a public statement.
Because if your [\h__\h] is airclad tight,
they have to continually explain more
and more. You know who did this very
well? Alice from I'm Alex. Yeah, she
probably should have addressed a lot.
the telling Alex he should have fought
his his
uh you know telling Alex verbatim you
should have fought the guy that that
sexually assaulted you harder is insane.
Mhm. But she came with all the [\h__\h]
receipts because she knew that
[\h__\h] would try to come
back every [\h__\h] receipt.
Mama do it. Do it quiet. Let let it flow
through you. No. No. What? You think
it's my first time doing this [\h__\h] No.
I know. I know. I believe in you. A He's
cool. Quite quite as sharp as us through
through it all. Um but yeah, it's just
like it's it's that's just how it is.
And I think that like again I think you
did come at this with the best
intentions. I will give you you came at
this with the best
intentions. But like this is is is
crazy. Gross.
No. No. Dogpack is still alive
somewhere. He's smoking weed. He's he's
on his Oh, man. Dogpack is somewhere
sitting in a Cayman Islands with his
He's too white of an American national
for a deportation dog. I'm sorry. That's
not happening. That's real. I'm like I'm
just reminded like uh they'll take the
brown babies. They won't take the white
man. Nope.
Why do you think Not the type of stream?
Not the type of stream. Oh, you can say
whatever the [\h__\h] you want. Go for it.
Well, I'm not going to say what the [\h__\h]
I want.
I know what it means being here, dog.
Don't worry. No, no, you're fine. Fine.
I like I like FG and the whole crew like
[\h__\h] Ashgra. Like y'all y'all are
cool. I think he said my name, you guys.
Oh, thank you very much. Quite I get I I
got I got back from I saw like a like
Kendrick in the rain yesterday. Wow. And
that I came to this a pretty good
followup. Nice. I can't believe we're
your Kendrick after party. Yeah.
Some Yeah.
Uh I think if people knew who the victim
was. What were your thoughts on G&X?
Uh I really like it. It's not my
favorite album of his, but like Fair.
But he like I don't know, man. He's got
like pop instincts in a way you wouldn't
expect from the dude. Let's not dwell on
that though because there's a point to
the stream and it's been eight hours for
y'all. Yeah, I know. I know. I think if
people knew who the victim was, they'd
believe her instantly. But I did look
into more than just a surface level. I I
like also understand like why she
doesn't want to come forward, but also
it's like it's it just becomes that much
harder. Like if you're going to go
public but not go public, like you've
made the hardest way to do this for
yourself. Yeah.
at least in one angle. Maybe the, you
know, privacy you have outside of
looking at Twitter is worth more than
like what I can understand.
But it's
and it just it it makes the rhetoric the
hardest to shape. You know what I mean?
If it like assuming it's true, like it's
this is the hardest way to make this
argument. Like [\h__\h] diddy like uh
accusers, the law is most likely not
going to keep them anonymous. they're
going to require they show up in court.
Like this stuff is just Yeah, it's I'm
not saying it's not true. I'm not saying
it's real. I'm not saying like it's done
for any specific reason. It is just
objectively the hardest way to do this.
Um, and and the unfortunate reality is
like, and I hate to say this, but it's
it's it's part of things like the our
channel is to understand cred,
understand allegations, not necessarily
pick them apart, but
identify ways that the opposition would
attack
it. And I and and I I think at this
point, and I hate to say this, this
person deserves their privacy if all
this is is factual and true, but
unfortunately like it is the worst way
to go about it. And now it's couched in
a deleted video that was a personal hit
piece full of personal gripes. Yeah. The
best chance you have is the first time.
Yeah. Yeah. Every time. Every time.
Check stream there. Check the other D.
There's There's
more. Oh, well, you know what? That's
funny. To be fair, that's funny. Here
you go. This
Embry, you're so great. Embry, that's
hilarious. Can you say slurs on YouTube
yet? This is already going yellow,
right? Yeah, probably. All right, I'mma
save that. I'm gonna save that. Is that
Is this a Whose home is Is this Queso?
That's Queso. That's Queso. Cuz Queso
held a cup with him. Like a queso face.
and and the uh uh the flag background.
Oh my god, we're [\h__\h] fast, dude.
Yeah, who also says crazy
who also says Kendrick is overrated.
No, overrated is a f like a fallacy of a
term. All right, let's go. Let's try to
get through this again. Please con in
2013. This time we met in a public space
but had no one around and talked for a
while. He kept bringing up the prospects
of us starting a relationship but how it
felt wrong. He would grab my hand,
saying how it felt so right, only to
push my hand away, saying, "But so
wrong." I had decided that my crush on
him was something I needed to get over
because I felt that my emotions were
being toyed with. He then suggested
going to a more public space around
others, and we went into the elevator to
go up to the lobby of the Ponycon Hotel.
As soon as the door closed, Saber Spark
forcefully shoved me against the wall
and shoved his tongue down my throat. It
scared me and actually hurt, triggering
another attack of dissociation. Once
again, he did not ask for consent when
throwing me into this situation. Once
the doors opened and people were
present, this led me to feel very
embarrassed. He got off me and took my
hand and guided me towards the stairs to
go back down to where we just were and
into a men's restroom where he pulled
his bins down and guided my hands and
head to perform oral sex on him. I was
afraid of denying him because of past
experiences with sexual assault. So, I
did it to get it over with without
wanting to cause a problem where he
would ejaculate on my face, apologized
profusely, and then this
is I got my headphones on so I'll hear
it, but I got to step away for a second.
Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. That's tough
describing. I do feel like you should
have like if if this if this happened,
you should have done like a civil thing
and not brought this to the internet. So
yeah, I see what you're saying. I I want
to
give I want to give
the I'll say victim. I want to give the
victim like their you know their chance
to speak to say what they need to say to
get to say their testimony and the
situation. Obviously, you can believe
them and still um ask for proof. Um but
I also want to know what cuz like it it
is hard for victims to speak out. It is
hard for people to believe victims on
the internet, especially uh if then at
the time versus now for uh bigger names,
so to speak, of who the allegations are
against. Um
uh she could have not come forward for
any number of reasons, obviously. Yeah.
But it's been so long since then that
it's that like I don't I don't I don't
know what could be done if true
obviously I don't know what can be done
or what she even wants to have done if
she just wants her story out there and
then people go from there or if she's
asking for uh uh I don't know charges or
what have you. pro the problem is is
that this does need evidence and I and I
hate to be that dissenting voice but
like the problem is is is
I'm I'm going to tell you the core issue
with the civil suit argument.
It's like okay it like if an anonymity
is the concern the more powerful the
target I guess like the higher pay like
you know
uh pay paycheck's the wrong word but the
higher payment you could get out of that
is like the higher class they are but
it's like in America specifically
they're both American citizens correct
from what we understand yes so it's
basically all legal records in America
are public records
Yeah. Um, so Saber Spar's name is out
there, victim's name is out there. It's
only like in priv if it's only in civil
court and like it never comes public.
That's
like either he pays it out and like he
has to talk like to either make it go
away or because he did it. I don't know.
Um, that's a story on its own. Yeah. And
there's also like why was this never
public? That becomes a story. And also
you get docks no matter what.
I guess you could attempt, but I don't I
don't know how hard she tried. I guess
you could attempt the I mean, they're
they're not even letting like people who
have as much dick to swang around as
Diddy. Like that's the reason his
victims h like are if they're continuing
the case, the major ones are more than
likely going to have to come out public.
And it's I I think there's more merit to
these kind of Twitter style cases, as
much as I hate to call it that, than I
think people give them credit for
because they're they're for some the
best recourse you have to a talk about
something if you have like, you know,
enough proof for it without do like
doing too much to put yourself out
there. But it also makes it the hardest
to prove. Um, and it also acts as the
nicest cover for those who just want to
lie. Yeah, it's like double-edged sword,
but you cut yourself both times. I think
I think the because I saw it in chat and
I and it made me think the I think the
only
way the problem is with with allegations
like this and because it's there is a
level of
hearsay we would God I this sucks
because the anonymity part is what what
actually kills the story now because
what would also be needed is at least
someone to cooperate
someone to cooperate the handholding for
for instance because you said that you
guys were in public and that this
conversation was happening in a somewhat
public setting about the the dating
thing because
okay if we if I am being honest here's
what I
believe I believe Saber may have said
these things to this
person and I think that he was being a
little bit, not even just a [\h__\h] boy,
but being genuinely awkward and kind of
disgusting when it comes to sexual
content, whether it's because he's
awkward or they're because he's a
gooner, whatever the [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
[\h__\h] you want to make up.
Um, he's like a 23-year-old.
Yeah. But like again like
the g the gambit is you're already
putting like wi with these cases. It
doesn't matter if you go civil, you go
public or you go criminal. There's
always a part of yourself like as the
alleged to victim, the accuser. You have
to like you have to a retraumatize
yourself or these this is a multiple
choice thing like one by one. You either
have to retraumatize yourself. You have
to put yourself out there to public
scrutiny knowing that like nothing might
come of it. In civil case, you might
have to do a little bit of both. Um,
with the public [\h__\h] there's just like
I guess the overall idea would be that
you're doing it so that no one can be
taken advantage of the same way. Again,
if that's how you feel it happened to
you. Yeah. But the it always like comes
on to you in some way. And the less
you're willing to share um or the more
you share, the more the other person has
to get in the mud with you if they feel
they're innocent. um the less you're
willing to share if that's the way you
go in the public sense,
the you you the harder the less case
there is to like for people to get
behind you initially. And this is all
mechanics like these aren't things I at
least I like to think I have like an
opinion on the way I describe them, but
it's it's
the the the ways you approach that
thing. It's unfortunately I've had to
like look into a lot without being a
lawyer. Um, yeah. So, it's like like I I
actively clash with my lawyer on it. If
I should have done anything, I did
public. And in the end, I don't regret
what I did. So, yeah, I can only imagine
what that's like from the other end of
the equation. I I I am surprised that
there's no text messages.
Apparently, this was all apparently
these guys, this was all done on Skype
and Skype has long deleted those
messages. Oh, no. No. What? No, no, no,
no. That's not a thing. That's what's
being claimed. No. if they have the
computer they did it on or a device that
still has Skype involved, they can get a
program like Skype that pulls it out. I
had to do that for my video. And I'm
hoping if they hear this and they still
have the computer, maybe they don't. In
which case, that's, you know, that's you
need to have the original computer it
was on from what I understand. But I did
I was able to pull my entire [\h__\h]
like six years of Skype history on that
account.
Yeah, that's that's a claim. That's a
claim that some like someone needs to
follow up on. It ain't going to be me.
They alleged and they also allegedly
traded phone numbers.
Yeah, chat, look up Skyperium. There's a
very specific file on like your
computer. Skype might be closed now, but
if you had it installed and didn't
install, it didn't update or anything.
The file is still there. You can put it
in there. It shows you where pictures
came from. It stashed all your pictures.
That's how I was able to find all the
[\h__\h] I did to censor to prove that they
did get sent, but like, you know,
without exposing it. It's like you can
like do the time codes on the dates when
it was made. Yeah. No, it's not Skype
servers. It's [\h__\h] locally on your
hard drive. Yeah, that's why like
there's an issue with like Skype because
um it would like roam and like sometimes
overwrite some files. I think that was
an issue like way back with Skype if I
remember correctly. If there's Skype
logs and you have the original machine,
they are retrievable is what the what
I'm trying to say. It'd be worth trying.
Yeah, it would be worth trying. Worth
trying.
If they shared phone numbers, if that
person has access to an old phone
number, they could prove. Yeah. Like, oh
yeah, we did share phone numbers. I
Bonk, if you're still here and
listening,
please. I I I'm like being honest. spunk
if you're somehow still here and still
listening like try I I hope the Skype
thing helps the case in whichever way
because it can also it can be like
something that like if they didn't
realize that was a method they can pull
that and if it's like not something they
can do or it's like something one party
can do that the other can't like that oh
man that I I I didn't intend to throw a
wrench no but this is really good
because it's like I don't want to not
believe somebody yeah I don't want to
look up Skypeer and I'm not lying That's
how I did it. You can get [\h__\h]
messages from a deleted Twitter account.
I just never managed to like figure out
how to parse them because you need like
some specific cyber security program
that I was not spending the money on at
the time.
Yeah. Yeah. I I if I'm sure people will
tell Bonk again like I said like I don't
keep it to Bonk and if he wants to pass
it on, let him do that. That's the Or if
the person finds it on their own, don't
try and like find the victims to like or
there is I was just about to say Alex
put it they created a throwaway account
called the Sun Mau the Sun Mau
5. There you
go. Um we're going to continue with
this. I'm going to try to get through
this because I'm going to get angry
again at the Courtney stuff. But yeah,
I'm just keeping you up so I get to keep
spending time with you. I I'll stay up
with you despite pretending that was
fine. Chad, you don't get to be me.
I'll stay up with chat. Don't bother me.
Waited for that friend. [\h__\h] you. I'm
special and I
would fine. You're fine. I had always
felt taken advantage of by him and tried
being friendly and pretending nothing
was wrong because it was all I knew how
to do. I would blame myself at
interactions for years, only opening up
to a few close people, questioning if
consent was implied because of my crush
and unwillingness and fear to outright
stop the advances because of how
uncomfortable I felt. I understand that
there was a possibility that he felt
consent was implied because he knew I
had a crush on him. However, he did not
once ask for consent directly and was
instead thrown into these sexual
encounters, usually very suddenly. There
were no discussions about the power
dynamic between us as a popular content
creator and a fan at any time. And my
parasocial connection to him and not
wanting someone I was a fan of to hate
me if I rejected him, leaving me afraid
to stop his advances over time. I I hate
the power dynamic
discussion. This guy was not He wasn't
your boss. You were his fan. I'm so This
is where I get This is the part that
does make me question parts of this and
I have to pick it apart.
Can I Can I ask where you're starting
this like um dissection from? Like you
say you don't like the power dynamic
because you think being a fan makes her
more vulnerable or less? Well, the thing
is that like about me when we were
talking about this like people are going
to view Sab Park as like his current
view count, which is like 2 million when
he most likely was less than 10K at this
point. I was true, but this is this is
like a testimony directly from the fan.
Correct. Yes, apparently. pro probably
read it from like how she as like what
she claims to be an early fan. Um is
trying to like phrase how that felt to
like maybe be the first time something
like that like happened to her like
meeting a creator being in a you know
interaction beyond that. You know what
you were going to say stuff and I got in
the I got in the No, you're fine. You're
fine. You're fine. You're fine. My my
personal thing is the I I
believe the word power dynamic is
overused.
When we typically discuss a power
dynamic, we are talking about an
individual that has direct correlation
on your future. That is what a typical
power dynamic is. Now, if you say that
he took advantage of the
parasociality, it then in my opinion the
reason why that word is not used is
because that there is a level of
parasociality that is
on the oness of the person that has that
feeling towards a creator. Are you
talking like a a rockstar groupy type of
thing? Yeah, that will be discussed in
about 2 minutes in this video. Oh, no
way. She beat me to that [\h__\h] There is
an entire conversation about implied
consent. Do you do you do you um come
from the academic sense of a power
dynamic or like the way that wider world
has come to learn it slash use it? wider
world being the [\h__\h] who have
I'm talking about it from the academic
sense because of the importance of that.
So to to me the academic sense does make
it is important if you get to define it
ahead of time which streams are just
kind of impossible to do on for
everybody watching.
Yeah. Uh what what I would say is um
assume when people use the term power
dynamic, they mean it in the way they
came to know it, which is
like it's technically legal for an 18 to
date a random 34 year old YouTuber,
right? Yeah. I I I'm pulling a number
out of my ass because I [\h__\h] was, you
know, going to rule 34 earlier.
Um, but I assume it means like when
these people talk about it, they mean it
in like
the, you know, rock groupies is
genuinely the best like
um comparison, but you rappers still
brag about being able to [\h__\h] fans,
right? And that's not going to stop
anytime soon. It's a very uniquely
internet way of knowing the term
quite it's like Yeah.
I'm not going to spoil anything for you.
Oh man, I'm going to have a great time
tonight, aren't I? We're about to get
there. This is the issue. You guys have
already seen this [\h__\h] video. I'm the
on the
I don't watch these part just cuz I was
hoping to get I Yeah, I we sometimes we
have to watch it because we have to
research everything. But I was waiting
for your coverage so I didn't have to
get in and now here I am.
I love it. I'm sorry. Foul [\h__\h] Ash.
Greg, you guys are too compelling. It
sucks. I have I'm very compelling. I
know. But I'm with you. I I I'm watching
this alongside you. If if Glad I just
couldn't resist your group dynamic.
Some call it a polycule.
Some All right. The Opley never dies. Is
that Is that Is like is is you the fan
base? Yeah. I'm I'm my own I'm my own
biggest fan. Yes.
[Laughter]
You know what? If you're a fan, that's
base.
Oh, yeah. Cloudy, if you could join,
come in. Yeah. I I you would Oh, you
need to you need to complete the
polycill. I We do. We do need to
complete the polycule. Listen, if we
wanted to complete the polycule, we'd
have we'd have Diesel in the shame
corner.
do that to him
because listen until he admits that he's
by he will be in the shade corner. No,
you you and Becky made him ace. I'm
sorry. Oh, that's hilar. That's funny
that he literally sexy. Foul, you live
in Las Vegas, right?
No, I live in Jersey. I I I I've met
Diesel in person. I could That was That
was my doc's test. I just wanted to make
sure. Oh, yeah. I don't get it. He's
triangulating your your right now. No,
it's testing how much you've already put
out there. Oh, no. Everybody knows I'm
from Jersey. It's like the thing. You
can't tell from his accent.
I Yes, because my mom watched that guy
get stabbed in Jersey City when she Oh,
wait. Really? Maybe it's the same guy I
know. Who's FG's uncle? My grand My mom.
Not grandma. My mom is 60.
Yo, that's baller.
Filipino. She was a Filipino immigrant
like when it was wager to go to
California and their parents were like,
"No, they're super racist. You don't
want to live there." There's a large
there's a large Filipino uh um uh
There's no such thing as a large
Filipino.
Oh, no. I know them. No, there's a large
Filipino uh immigrant uh community here.
Um I know quite a few of them. Uh some
of them know my mom and I'm not gonna
check. No, that's fine. That's fine. I
uh I I will I will say uh is someone
who's very close to the Filipino
culture. Uh not being one myself. Uh
Lubia. I love Lubia. Uh uh K is my
favorite thing though. I actually don't
like peanut butter. I don't like peanut
butter is like my thing. Go to like a
like a family friend get together.
They're they're Hawaiian and they always
have Lubia. Like a pile of Lubia. So
Lubia is great. Uh I like Balabok. Um
Sega is very good. Um I know what all of
these things are. Maybe uh uh uh uh
Dolly B is the best. My half white side
is not me. My half.
Okay. I'm not going to debate my
culture. Can we like just my culture?
I'm not going to debate if my culture is
my culture. Can we look at the [\h__\h]
rape allegations again? This is
I don't want to talk about me anymore.
I've decided.
I'm sorry. I was hungry. I don't want
his fans and friends or even him to
harass or contact me publicly. I wish to
stay anonymous so I can avoid the
anxiety and stress of being targeted by
either him, his friends, and especially
his fans. Hi, sweetie. Hi, Cloudy.
Oh, no. She's She's fighting. This is
when I'm going to say the slur. This is
when I'm going to say the slur.
has over two million subscribers.
Sweetie, are you this one? Go on.
Yeah, this one. Yeah, I'm all right. I
just I had to finish some cooking. Yeah,
we did meet and we had a really really
great time. I got a [\h__\h] cool picture
of me with a little diesel fagurine in
my hand.
That's real. Yeah, he loved it. He did.
He did. I liked it, too.
Let's get chat. Hi, Jess. Hi. Hi. Hi. Oh
my god. Played on here all the time.
He's going to have to book me. Aka I get
nervous.
He get Diesel gets shy. We know this.
You know Diesel's always been shy.
That's pooky though. That's pooky. It's
our little It's our little pooky bear.
He's my little He's my little flesh
being to contort.
True.
I mean, he's so easy, you know. He is.
That's not I don't think we mean this in
the same way. M uh or or we do.
I [\h__\h] with them, y'all. [\h__\h] on them.
It's different. True, true, true, true,
true. Hi, chat. Oh my god, you guys. Hi.
Thank you. I am a little under the
weather. I am better now or better. I
got soup and medicine. I'm I'm ready for
the rest of this rape allegation.
Play. Press play. I'm
just You guys know what I think the best
outcome would this be? What? It was a
big misunderstanding and everybody gets
a little therapy. How do I fence ride
this [\h__\h]
How do I fence ride this? I don't I
don't know. Yeah, how do I both sides
this or No, it's not even both siding.
It's like honestly it's like I'm like,
man, this has got to be tough. I don't
know who's right.
This is why I stopped. This is why I
stopped. Like, I can't do this anymore.
You guys are solid. Okay, we'll press
play. Other hand we'll
hold hands together. Let me get it. Had
conflict with I witnessed several
instances of his friends attempted to
justify him and others actions. I was
not made aware of his jokes about
consent and his recent behavior
involving Chris until only recently and
had left my stomach in knots. I please
ask above all else for my privacy to be
respected. I don't wish to publicly
defend my personal experience and just
wish to share my experience. So, welcome
to the video where we break this down a
little bit more and talk about what keep
speaking when it stops scrolling. Bad
editing. Bad editing. Yeah.
All right. This woman took two years.
Are you guys ready? I can't imagine
trusting an edit for a video like this
to someone but yourself. Sorry. Well, we
don't know who did it because the
editors chose not to be uh named. I
thought some of the editors were like
talking about in the chat the premiere
they were proud. I think it was some
people involved with the yeah some some
of the people involved with some of the
uh um
there's interview for some of Yeah,
we've already established there's like
things worth talking about in here and
like it was a lot of a lot of people I'm
sure. [\h__\h] Let's get to it.
Because the point of discussion here so
because this is a really serious I want
to highlight something real quick and I
totally fine. This isn't our longest.
This is This is the most disgusting
thing I'm about to tell people. The
reason Courtney is brought on because
she's a sexual assault survivor.
That is literally part of Is Courtney
Lily or is Courtney? Courtney is Lily's
sister. That That
Oh, my [\h__\h] god.
That's dude. This is a great excuse for
me to pee and not speak. You [\h__\h]
Yeah. Please make sure you mic. I would
pee too. You know what? Bio break. Why
don't you all break? I'll tell I'll
chat. Hold on. It's my turn to talk. I
haven't talked all day. Hello chat. How
we doing? Hi Cloudy. Hi chat. Hello Ash.
Hello Greg. Hello.
Hello everyone I missed in chat that
said hi. Hello. Hello. Hello. How are we
doing today? I'm doing good. How are you
guys? How are y'all sitting with this
seven hour stream? Hi Mitch. This is It
says eight for me. I didn't look.
Hi, David. Hello. Hello.
Hello. Hi,
Jilly. Thank y'all so much for hanging
out all night. Um, yeah, for real. I'm
very proud of uh this stream and Fouchy
and all the rest of you guys. This is
really I mean, okay, allegations are not
cool, but no. Um, where we've gotten
since we started is really cool.
Yeah. And I do appreciate you all being
here. I did want to say this, too. We
wanted to do this on Friday. Okay, we
had everything ready to go on Friday,
but but then somebody but then somebody
had to mysteriously return to the
internet. So, we covered that on Friday.
And uh Mama Max, I still hate your ass.
I hate you. Been too e and then we
couldn't do it this morning. God, I had
to take a He's got a lot going on in his
day.
Chad, I washed my hands. I woke up and
you are still going. Drink water pls.
You don't I will do that. I'll be right
back. You can play it. I'll be fine.
Okay, I'll wait for you much. No, he has
his headphones on. Sure, why not?
And I know almost nothing about sexual
assault. I invited Courtney again. She's
all over this video to talk about like
what is consent? I don't know anything
about sexual assault. So, I invite the
sexual assault victim.
Okay. Okay. It's either this or she
grabs somebody who's watched a lot of L
SVU. I would rather that. I'm not going
to lie.
Yes, I see you, Storm. Okay, I'm gonna
[\h__\h] it. Let's go. Let's go.
Once consent is there, and when it's not
there, um, we're having a great time
here at the the worst video ever. And
just kind of break it down so we have a
better understanding. And all you nerds
out there, don't do something really,
really bad like this. Um, don't do it,
guys. Don't don't do it. Hi again,
Courtney. Welcome. You'll be in the
video everywhere at this point. Hello,
everybody. It is I. I have returned once
again. So happy to be here. don't like.
So, I've shown you the testimony at this
point. Um, what is better audio
balancing? I don't like that KP is
referring to Courtney as her token SA
survivor. [\h__\h] Courtney. Did she
actually say that? Did I miss it? It's
how she's treating her because because
uh Oh, thank you, Felix, for the five.
I've been a new person here since the
birdie video. I apologize for my words
earlier, by the way. Felix, thank you so
so much, dude. You're good, but we
appreciate it. Dollar Lazy Dragon, thank
you. Yeah, we appreciate it. It's all
good. Quite growth is the point, isn't
it? Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I
going to [\h__\h] kill you and your
family. What the [\h__\h] Clip it. Clip it,
chat. Read his message again. Been here
since the beginning and it's been quite
a stream. Yeah.
Oh, [\h__\h] God damn it.
Stormy. But no, our we may not always
all agree and there might be a little
bit of of tiffs or whatever in the chat,
but genuinely you guys tend to police
yourselves. I haven't had to do very
much. Um, you guys are fine. It's okay
to have an opinion. Just, you know, be
open to listening and and learning.
That's all we can expect from you guys.
Like we say, chill. Chill. Yeah. Yeah.
And you guys do I will say this app
there is an important part to be
mentioned. I am not going to pull it up
because the stream will be over 11 hours
and YouTube like uh DFS the stream if
it's over 11 hours or whatever. That is
true. We can just we can just make it.
God, no feed
dog washing to do tomorrow. Hey, let's
feed that dog. Here's here's what I will
say. God damn it. Black flower. What?
No. What is happening? Thank you.
Black and thank you. I repeat, Poppy and
Zena did the same thing to Courtney.
token essay survivor. She's going around
as a token survivor. No, you're I was
laughing cuz Draen said they didn't mean
that and I was like [\h__\h] I just told I
was a guy I was going to kill him and
his family.
It is being clipped and I will be
writing the Twitter the Twitter longer.
Ship it. Don't be a [\h__\h] See what
happened to the last guy. Oh my god. Oh
god. Hell yeah. Okay. Uh, what I was
going to say
was we're not going to go over the chat
logs that Thank you, Sai, for sending
over to me. I have
them. Uh, we will have other parts, you
guys. Yeah. Yeah, we're both have other
parts.
Here's what I'm going to say. There was
um God, Courtney was fighting another
essay survivor in chat when they were
talking about consent and literally and
literally was just like berating them
saying, "Oh, why? I don't even believe
you." Literally. Don't piss me off. Oh
my gosh. Asked this essay and this is
the system. What's your standard for
essay? What's the standard for essay?
What's your standard? What's your
parameters for essay? I mean, I'm not
gonna lie. It's got a it's a question
you got to ask in terms of like defining
terms. Like you remember earlier like we
were trying to ask Block for his metric.
It is a much more higher stakes version
of that. It kind of depends what was
being said before it in my opinion.
Let's say I I will I will try not to
react the way I want to react. I will
keep that in mind. But just right off
the bat,
there was a lot I do know what you mean
though. There was a lot more in like
what there were there's a lot I'm
missing. I assume. Yeah. Like that
reaction I feel like is probably
justified for something I just shouldn't
be speaking on. There was a lot more
regarding it that got a lot worse in in
that chat. But they were they were
really fighting that person like and I
do mean fighting. And it was it was bad.
It was really Sai can attest to it. It
was it was insane. the CSA victim was
trying to make a video premiere uh was
saying that oh yes, the CSA victim said
that the video premiere was tasteless
and evidence was isn't that great and
then they said why why can't we premiere
it? It's a YouTube video. Like like that
was the argument being said.
Okay. Yeah. Sorry. Don't listen to me.
That was [\h__\h] stupid. Apologies.
Horid. No, it's it's not stupid if you
didn't know, but just uh Yeah. Again, we
have a My fault. My fault. My fault. We
have a whole HTML version. Sorry, I This
is where you guys are going to see like
my faults come into play where it's like
maybe I like assume a little too much on
one side like an ass. Okay, you weren't
there. I think being kind is not a bad
thing. No, it's not. Being kind is not a
bad thing. I am just a hater and I am
just Yeah. The thing is it doesn't sound
like you had a bad reason. Like it it
sounds like you had a good reason to
think that. So, I'm not like No, fair
enough. Thank you for calling. No,
here's the thing. I am the I I am very
employed and I don't mean that as like a
dig to anybody, but like I'm just gone a
lot. Um, and so I don't know what's
going on. I I am uh I do probably the
least amount for the channel aside from
just showing up and and sounding pretty,
but just like uh everything I do
everything I I do or react to, it's just
it's normally something I'm seeing for
the first time. like I'm I have didn't
watch any of these videos, didn't read
any of these um screenshots or anything.
So, this is just as I'm seeing it is how
I am interpreting and reacting to
things. Can I can I read this the MIJ
message? Yes, you can. Please. Quite.
Can you be the contemporary voice to
introducing conflicting sides? I don't
think we're as disaligned as you think,
brother.
I Yeah, but in general processes like
we're literally all on the same page
from everything I've seen and I've seen
a decent amit. Yeah. Yeah. All right,
let's [\h__\h] this. I'm going to crash out.
This one I'm going to crash out.
I'm literally going to [\h__\h] shoot
myself in the face and I can't hear
them. We got We got to get through this
cuz I'm going to actually scream at
Imagine telling a New Jersey person not
to crash out. I'll scream at Courtney
right now. I was
born to it.
It's sad and I I I don't know. This is
just like super triggering to me cuz not
to call you. Yeah. So, I thought I'd
also bring you in there bring you in
here to to hold my hand during this. But
yeah, in terms of the testimony, it's
just it's just kind of heartbreaking
really. Uh it's just it's always
heartbreaking to me when people question
their own sexual assault just because of
the lack of education around it.
And like something that I just want to
say to anybody out there is
a consensual sexual encounter is never
something you're going to question
afterwards. Okay? Like that's that's
that's that's not that's there's levels
to that. People can regret having Okay,
people can regret having sex with
somebody. I question I'll be honest.
Yeah, sometimes it's not good, but that
doesn't mean it's like
it's not I don't I don't know how to
word this. Sometimes you'll have a time
with somebody and maybe it just wasn't
that great. That doesn't mean it was
criminal. It just means that either you
or them or you guys just didn't have a
good chemistry and it happens and you
can just be like that sucked and you
move about your day. If this makes
anybody feel better, I've regretted
every sexual encounter I've ever had and
it never finished.
So sad.
Supposed to be funny. What? God damn it.
Really sad. That was really double down.
That Yeah, that helps. Thanks guys.
Guys, like the stream to help quite feel
better. Yeah, thank you guys. You know
the chat for quite listen if if let's
double down. Let's Dude, I was about to
make a You know what? It's YouTube. I
don't give a [\h__\h] dude. I'm going to
kill We're going to meet each other at a
con and I'm going to kill myself in
I'll hold you to it. Remember, you got
to do it the right way, though. Listen,
we're still in California. I can't
really bring a gun there quite. Look,
we're still mad at you. So that's the
only No, also that's the only state we
can ever That's the only state we can
ever meet in by the way. Mhm.
Listen, we can only ever meet in K. You
can never hold me to this. Listen, if
we're from the start, I will I will
speak I will speak for the uplog. We are
still mad at you for not showing
Kendrick our YouTube channel. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Definitely. Definitely. Listen, man. Did
you want me to make it weird? He's got
like that Dodie guy who went homeless
blaming him like and he like he's
already got enough on his plate, man. Oh
my god.
This time he talked to me about it
because we're close friends.
He's going through a lot right man. Like
the tour right now. My [\h__\h] I have
two children. I'm Kendrick Lamar. He
said those things. He said that out
loud. I have heard that recently. I have
heard that recently. He has Yeah. Yeah.
A lot. He's been telling people like
mid-sentence. I'm Kendrick Lamar by the
way. Yeah, I I I'm going to be honest.
If if KP can have her token SA survivor,
we can have our token sex hater. That's
just how it's going to be from now on.
There we go. I'm wait. I don't like that
characterization. Yeah, we have to have
some balance. We are We are diesel mods.
We have to have someone who's not like
because allegations have been Dude, what
do you mean? Because we've been accused
of been having too much sex. That's the
problem. Somebody used the fact that we
have sex against us. True. I don't hate
sex. I just can't [\h__\h] get [\h__\h] and
that's is that like or or kicking my
ass. Is that a problem? Like Jesus. I
can fix that. That's not the point.
Let's keep going.
Feel Listen, Falgi, you can't handle
this. Prove it. Okay. Okay. Listen.
Every stream that Falga gets on gave
every bum I saw a shot. Then I You'd
have one bum and that bum is me. Let's
go. No, the bum's mine. You're I I
couldn't think of a rhyme. Oh, there's
the rhyme. Let's get playback on the
sexual assault. Oh, boy. Maybe we should
talk less about [\h__\h] question. A
consensual encounter.
We should stop talking about this. It's
different cuz they're talking about each
other though. That's the difference.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's fine. True. Anyway,
hit play. Have one that you, you know,
regret that might look back at one and
go, you know, if I can make that
decision again, I probably wouldn't. But
yeah, but that's you questioning it. I
don't question consensual sexual
experiences with did I just get violated
to be quite honest.
And like the other thing that kind of
breaks my heart is there's one point in
her testimony where where she questions
if if I'm remembering this correctly
that like maybe she was at fault because
she had a crush on him. Like maybe she
gave the wrong signal or something.
Maybe she implied something or he
thought consent was implied. Back on her
like
in all honesty consent is never implied.
That's not a potion coffee tea. By the
way, please
buy true. That's not true. I've had I've
had, you know, as a juice partner, I've
gotten pretty [\h__\h] good.
That's That's not
true. I'm not Okay. Can you run it back
20 seconds? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. No, it's okay. The
memory leak is starting cuz you know,
YouTube [\h__\h] its own [\h__\h] Like, it's
[\h__\h] awesome how they just made it
less usable. Yeah, I know. Oh, it's like
actively the worst thing.
Consent was implied because he knew
there was a crush on her.
Like in all honesty, consent is never
implied. Like even even secure,
confident individual.
That's not how that baby. It's cold
outside.
I just ran back to my mic. I didn't My
mug is in the sink. What the [\h__\h] did
she just say? Consent is never implied.
I I've been I've been Okay. Okay. Did I
miss here? Did I miss here? Did she mean
in her situation it was never implied or
is she saying generally? Generally.
I I've been implied I've been in
complied consent situations where like
both I or like in situations like
somebody else is like, "You know what?
No." And then like we're like, "Hey,
that's all right." And that that's
right. Stop. What do you mean? Like Like
you just like during like normal [\h__\h]
that like didn't have a yes or no
answer, someone decided in the middle of
it. Nah, no nine.
It's Yeah. It's like, oh [\h__\h] Well, you
know, but like this is this is all
right. This is all right. But this is
the issue. It's like when you say
consent is never implied. I I'm going to
be very I'm sorry. That's the dumbest
[\h__\h] I've ever heard. I'm sorry. I'm
sorry. It's the dumbest [\h__\h] I've ever
heard. What are they saying? It's
because implied, I guess.
Yeah, but like that's the thing. None of
the Okay, I want to make it very clear.
None of these people were I'm going to
have to [\h__\h] pick it apart for a
second. Neither of them were drunk. They
were clearly from her own admission. He
knew that she was very sweet on him.
How? I don't like you know what I mean?
Like she didn't just say starruck. She
had a crush on him. That would means
that she probably acted in a way that he
kind of knew. And this is not me casting
doubt on the accuser, but like if he
knows that you have a crush on him and
he's constantly talking about the two of
you dating. Can I can I bring up like an
emotional issue with have like coming
out with something like this in any
public forum? Yes. It's you you're
you're asked to not asked, but if you
choose to come through with it, you
agree to talking about a highly
emotional situation that in other
people's eyes you need to prove happened
mechanically. So, you have to talk about
like what could be trauma mechanically.
um or it's like consent is never implied
where it's like maybe she has the
experience with that and maybe that's
true, but it's also
like you're you're asked to treat your
own emotional situation or you choose to
treat your own emotional situation very
[\h__\h] logistically. Mhm. And that is a
horrible ride. Horrible line to even
have to consider riding, but also a very
easy one to like do a back lick off of
and then like get paralyzed because of I
think cuz cuz Alex, I see you in chat. I
want to I want to highlight something
for a second. I'm Alex. [\h__\h] off. Oh
god. A consent is not always verbal.
Don't get me started.
You don't just throw a woman into a
makeout session suddenly. It wasn't.
Okay, so let's let's let's let's keep it
a buck for a second. It wasn't suddenly.
He brought her to the room. He talked
about dating her and then they made out.
If it was suddenly, there wouldn't be
like any leadup. I don't think to be
fair. Never raped anyone, so I don't
know. Yeah. And neither have I. But
that's but like you are putting things
out of order. He talked about them
dating beforehand. She She said it was
sudden.
No, she said specifically the sex part.
He made out and he led her to the
bed. I'm going to pull up the
allegations cuz I have them and I want
to make them very clear and make sure
I'm not misremembering either. But from
my recollection of what was said, I was
about to say it has been a while. You
mean Yeah, because we weren't really
listening to the video to be fair. Uh
especially with this conversation that's
definitely worth looking.
Did she say no at any
part will check in with their partner as
things escalate and change gears and and
they'll say things like I think there's
I think there's like a level I think
there's a level of
responsibility making sure your other
partner is enthusiastic.
Yeah, I will agree like without them
like saying no straight up. I think like
there is a level of responsibility and
and I will and and to Ash's point, I
think the only reason that they're
asking that is to make sure that that
wasn't in included in the dock that that
there was a level of also no that he's
disregarding which the accuser says that
no they just disassituated
disassociuated disassociated I apologize
um
um immed okay he almost immediately
initiated making out with me and guided
me to the bed. Never said it was sudden.
Yeah, it's it and it's after talking
about dating each
other. It's not it's talking about
dating each other. We don't know the
conversation taking back and forth. If
he's saying, "I feel like there's
something going on. Maybe we should date
each other, but is it wrong? Is it
right?" and they're like it feels like
at least in the first instance I don't
the second instance I have doubts on
Saber Spark's intentions I I like like
you know what I mean like the coming on
her face is
deplorable but
I mean did did did he ask or did it was
it an accident or she write so she
writes later both times were sudden I
understand that but that's disregarding
the buildup up that she is putting
on. That is a summary, but it doesn't
explain what she's stating happened. I
need you to understand that like just
because she later says it's sudden
doesn't disregard the way she wrote it
previously. And it also doesn't include
what what is ever in
their their al like the their
discussions. And I and I hate I I hate
reviewing this because I can see I Okay,
so here's my thing. I do think that she
was taken advantage of. I think that he
took advantage of a fan. Whether or not
I I I believe personally in the power
dynamic thing is a different story
entirely. I do think that he took
advantage of the connection they had.
But is that right?
So, you think they [\h__\h] I think he he
wanted to get laid and she was into it,
but she wanted more from it. And he's
like, I just want to get laid and she
was there for it until there was like
obviously I'm not I'm not going to speak
on that. Yeah, I'm not going to
speculate on that. I I I'm not going to
speculate on that, but y'all y'all think
they like actually [\h__\h] Well, she's
saying that they had sex. She is saying
that he he he penetrated her. So, so you
think like she's like
uh you know bet your metric where it's
not met but like gotten close to the
metric of like where it's like I can
believe these fellas knew each other and
it was a misunderstanding not just a
fabrication. Sorry, I was running out of
breath by the I'm leaning more to the
misunderstanding. Yes. Personally,
um because I won't lie, I've been
playing Roblox during this
There's it kind of it kind of hurts when
I focused in. I spent 20 minutes
focusing in and then like I've felt a
low belief. Yeah, it's it's not because
it's stupid, but because I can't handle
it. It's hard. It sucks. This [\h__\h] is
It's a hard topic. I have a lot of
respect for y'all. Oh, well, thank you.
Um it's hard and that's why I get a
little bit frustrated when there's uh
and it's not just I'm not calling out
this just this one person. It happens in
other streams, too. uh you get so stuck
on the semantics and you get so stuck on
the uh well they said this and they're
the victim and this and this and that
like okay I get that I believe this
person I'm still I still have to look at
the entire statement and I still have to
think about the things around it like
I'm sorry it's galloping it's flooding
the zone it's like you it's like we care
and it's like you y'all y'all are the
ones who are like putting in the time to
checking the receipts like like on the
few topics that reach public uh or a
wider public eye. Maybe wider public eye
is the wrong term, but that like reach a
substantial amount of people who aren't
directly involved. It's like you who are
the ones assigned with like checking the
the the details or you put that on
yourself. That was [\h__\h] rough with
how that is. It's just like Naomi King
were
I don't know any of that. Uh we have so
King was a nonbinary person who
was disingenuous with their framing of
their relationship and felt slighted and
accused him of sexual impropriy when it
wasn't the case and now they deleted
their whole channel and their gang
mental health problem. TL TLDDR they had
a sugar relationship and she claimed it
as sexual assault. Okay. I couldn't
remember the name of it. Yeah. I'm gonna
take your word on it. So, we don't hold
up. We're not we're not going to go
through it. But again, it's the reason
why I the reason why we have to look at
it
is there is because because here's the
thing. Here's why. There's so much at
risk if you don't. Yes. There's not only
is there so much at risk that you
don't, you are also
um
like you're also being downright like
you're not giving Saber Spark the
ability to respond if you do that,
right? And he does by all intents and
purposes does deserve to respond to this
if he chooses to. He should respond to
this. You have to give I can believe
things when I have a lot of physical
proof and evidence be it screenshots,
video proof, things like that. But when
it comes to
testimony that is a one-on-one
testimony, it's very very difficult and
there are holes that we are missing that
only he can fill in. And if he has proof
of anything that's potentially
consensual, be it text messages, be it
anything, it makes it muddy. May maybe
I'll sound biased on this, but like
I got to put it in that situation. It's
like I I'm not saying that like if
there's legal stuff, he shouldn't take
five months or however long if he needs
to. Like if there's legal proceedings,
do that first obviously. Yeah. But it
it's also like Yeah. I think like the
[\h__\h] people have been dealt like his
fans, his audience publicly are probably
going to go through [\h__\h] for defending
him. Yeah. And if he truly believes he's
innocent, like man, like do that for
them. Yeah. Like if nothing else, if you
truly believe that, give that your best
shot. Yeah. And and to uh chatter the
lurkers, we're also not defending him.
We're just trying to parse through the
information. Yeah.
This is like you guys have a very
respectable way of going through this
and I really do uh co-sign it so far.
Thank you. Well, thank you. Thank you.
We also do try to like maybe we
shouldn't always but we also do try to
be funny because this [\h__\h] is heavy.
This [\h__\h] is hard and it's [\h__\h] I
won't lie. That's part of why I co-side
it.
It Let's We're going to get back to it
only because here you you you can treat
like before you start it. You can use
this like one of the whenever you get a
like pee, use this as like a radio
cutaway. Yeah, this is Quiet. You're
listening to the art block.
The art block. No, I can't. Well, Quiet,
I love you, but I don't know if I'll be
able to do that cuz the last time
someone did that, they called me a
pedophile. So, we're not going to do
That's crazy. That's crazy. Well, you
are.
See, the prophecy comes true. See, I
like that wouldn't have happened if you
didn't make it an easy jump. Oh, [\h__\h]
said anything. He said anything. It's
never something that's implied. Okay.
It's it's not, you know, an absence of a
no is not a yes in any regard. An
absence of uh resistance is not
compliance. And even in that regard,
compliance is not an invitation. Mhm.
Because this girl had a crush on Saber.
It was okay that he just kind of
initiated things. And then especially
too in the elevator in a public space
when he's just much lighter. Again, I
I'll say this before it continues to go.
Uh uh [\h__\h] the elevator thing. That is
disgusting if not consensual and if
especially if they're not. We'd all love
to just believe the victims, but that's
not how humans work. Thank you. Lost the
world. Thank you. Thank you. Like
physically, I don't know. It's it's all
icky, but like what what would you
define consent as? And when would you
define like obviously this isn't it for
sure, but go ahead. And in terms of like
a definition of consent and what it is
and what it isn't, um consent is an
excited. Yes, go for it.
Consent. Do you know how [\h__\h] good we
have it to have conversations like this
and then get to [\h__\h] argue about the
nuance? Yeah. Like this just like lost.
I'd take it as a good sign that this is
an argument we get to have to have and
people get to live their lives making
sure that
like like people like Fali are in a
position where like people want to see
the right thing done. Yeah. I think
that's cool. Yeah. I I I a Well, thank
you. I think it's cool, too. I I as much
as I hate topics like cam c like essay
and all this stuff I I like hoping I'd
like to hope and pray that we try to
give as much as a colored take. I won't
say yeah like you can try and be wrong
and still try. Yeah. And it's like like
that that's a privilege we have of the
modern age that just didn't exist Yeah.
a while ago. Also, I'm gonna highlight
15 years ago. Actually, 15 years ago, it
didn't exist. Also, to be clear, I don't
understand why they went to another con
with Saber after the first one went so
bad, especially now so much time has
passed. I
I Yeah, but we'll I'll say this for
shrimp. Several retards involved. I
don't no way around it. Lol. I thought
the same thing. So, I'm going to
highlight
something because
of Sorry, I'm not trying to go off your
chat. I'm sorry. I'm of color. I did say
takes really funny. I did say takes of
color. I meant to say nuance.
Our chat is [\h__\h] funny, dog. I'm
done. I'm done. I'm actually done. I'm
actually done. [\h__\h] I got to let you
speak. So, I will say this because they
bring this up on stream on screen.
Exuberant
body language is included in the
definition of a consent when we talk
about it.
Thank you Dave for subscribing. Thank
you Dave. Is it Dave Niver? I don't
know. No, it's uh what what what's the
followout one? Thank you Dave. This is
Dave. Republic of Dave.
Body language is here. Remember remember
they said that body language wasn't
here. I'm telling you
now. I'm telling you now again. And also
I am not victim blaming. These are thing
these are questions that need to be
asked. Um what's the word I'm looking
for? Um payback for lack of a better
term, I guess. Like two people in a
consensual encounter engage in a give
and take. Like it's never just one
person doing all of the action and the
other person just laying there like like
a bump on a log, you know? It's an
action that two people engage in when
it's consensual. Um, nine times out of
10, when it's one person just using
another person's body for sexual
gratification, that's not a consensual
encounter. Nine times out of 10, what do
you mean that? Like, what were you
saying? Nine times out of 10, sex is a
[\h__\h] rape. What are you talking
about? You're This is This is like the
token victim
from KP's words talking, right? Yeah, I
guess so. Yeah. What? Okay, just real
quick, right? I'm not gonna speaking for
that person, but Oh, no. Go ahead. I was
gonna say like an assault victim like
having a stronger position on that. I
understand more than most, but I'm also
an assault victim. Like, yeah, that is
you can't throw away social context. You
can't Yeah,
because it your words got to matter. I
maybe I'm talking too much from a public
figure stance. No, but like your
position to speak on these things
matter. Like I don't know. You know
what? I'm going to bring up an example
of like why that type of [\h__\h] matters.
There was a bit ago few months ago. I
screamed at a minor on a Twitter space.
Oh no. Dream fan.
And I was just like I wasn't even like
mad against the arguments themselves,
but how he was presenting them. He
decided to stream in Minecraft with a
Sherlock outfit on and you know I got
more heated than I should have. Wasn't
the right thing to do obviously,
but come on. Like dude, like the form
factor matters and that's not on the
victim, it's on the person arbitrating
the conversation. Like Yeah. And and I
think that there's a real big issue that
Lynn pointed out a good thing like
Courtney's views of consent come from
like a place of trauma cuz it's exactly
exactly the relationship she had with
her sister and it's not good. Like she
has extreme positions for a reason.
Yeah. Yeah. I can again I too can
understand why she feels this way but it
does suck that like it it this is going
to sound maybe this sounds [\h__\h] up. It
kind of tells me that you are a little
bit unhealed and it's not something
you'll ever like fully heal from. Maybe
I don't know. I don't know your journey,
right? I can only say from like uh like
experiences and things that people have
shared with me, but it's just like to
just uh nine times out of 10 to just
like do you just think people just don't
like sex or that if you are a victim you
can never enjoy sex again? Like that's
just to me that's just a really weird
thing to imply. where where where I was
going with my strain of thought where
it's like as a victim I can understand
assuming the worst she yeah I I'm going
to keep and but it's it's also like it's
not fair because most people do that in
like as a part of their personal coping
process right and it's like they're able
to live their lives par like parallel
with other people who are not like that
but engage in behaviors they might
otherwise not like myself included it's
something I've had to check myself on a
few times. Mhm. But
it's it's not healthy. It's It's Yeah. I
will say this. I'm going to refrain from
speaking. Oh, no. Because it gets You
know something, huh? Uhhuh. You know
something? Oh, let's let's get to it so
we can go. That is just a violation of
somebody's person. And it's actually
pretty common for like sexual aggressors
to attack somebody like in a in a
innocuous sort of sense like in the
elevator, especially at like a
convention or something like that in
public because it sort of um dissuades
the the target or the victim from
actually saying anything because like
half the time people will think, well,
this is being done in public. Surely
somebody's going to say something so I
don't have to. But the other part of
them doesn't want to cause the bystander
effect is is not going to we're not
talking about the bystander effect.
We're not doing this right now.
I I'm going to press play because it's
good to just just That's a stupid
analogy. We should not do that. Nuance.
It's a the nuance is you quiet. I'm
going to crash out. You don't know what
I know. Let me let me finish the video
and then I will have an opinion. You can
tell me if I'm wrong. They're already
embarrassed by the fact that they're
being I'm not going to lie. If it's
something you can't say on stream, it
might happen. Embarrassing thing. Oh,
no.
draw it anyway like
anyway with the public general public is
they sort of fall into the someone else
will deal with it mentality whereas
everybody sort of assumes that somebody
else is going to step in and say
something so they therefore then why are
you I'm sorry please don't blame the
general public for allowing someone to
be assaulted that's weird that's a
really like weird way to look at it
Like I Okay, that's a really that's a
really disgusting and disenfranchising
to the victim
saying I God I
can't. Okay.
Okay. Well, the other thing I want to
throw in there, too, is um nothing
that's illegal, but kind of the
parasocial relationship of like, you
know, it's always it seems like it's a
common thing where we're going to go
downhill from here, chat, and this is
where I scream. Oh. Oh my god. Hit play.
Hit play. Hit play. You know, back in
the day, knowing the roller coaster kind
of thing, but now it's kind of more
discussed that that's a paradigm that
shouldn't really be abused. And
especially when you don't really know
someone in person, you know, like um
from the testimony, this is her first
time in person with Saber and he
immediately jumps. not immediately, but
he pretty much immediately jumps on her.
So, that also kind of gave me a big ick.
Any thoughts on that? And one other
thing I wanted to add in is that, you
know, confident individuals in a sexual
encounter don't have to assume that
consent is there because they will ask.
And to be honest,
that's I'm sorry. Wait, what? Maybe
don't say that while you're eating, but
is this Oh god. Is it you or our
inception? Okay. [\h__\h] Unrelated to the
content, this might be the worst
interview I've ever listened to. It is.
Oh, 100%. Okay. I wasn't crazy, right?
Did Did the other person literally ask,
"Oh, any thoughts on that?" And then she
just went on a completely The other
person just went on a completely
different tangent. Oh, no. She'll go
back to the [\h__\h] Which one did Which
one went on the rant? The interview or
the interviewee? Interviewee. Oh, god.
Courtney. Courtney. Anytime you hear
sexual assault take, it's Courtney.
Okay. I I I I for one, this has no place
in this video. No, it does genuinely.
What? What do you mean? What? How else
could I make it two hours long? Don't
[\h__\h] don't curse. It's not like they
[\h__\h] go. Go on. This is Okay, I'll do
it. It's This is
insanity because you're constantly
giving asterisk. I gestured to it. They
know my take. Yeah, I know. I know. I
saw you point at the board. It The
problem is it's like what is this
conversation? What are we doing? What
legitimately are we doing? We are
explaining the nuances of consent only
if you're confident. What if you're not
confident? I'm confident people have
sex. What are you saying? Hey man, I'm
highly confident and I don't be [\h__\h]
not because of a choice. Uh, it's not
we're not the same. You're involuntarily
celibate. Is that what you're saying?
Frozen inso. Alex, just to let you know,
I because the because the the alleged
victim Look at me. Come on. Because the
alleged victim was talking on Twitter, I
added them specifically for comment. I
did not and I reached out to Bonk.
Obviously, I didn't want to just like
tap them into that. Um, and Bon was a
Gene did show up. Yeah. And he did show
up. And again, if if the victim in this
case wants to speak privately, by all
means, I would love to. I'm not going to
[\h__\h] You said they have like a public
like a public way they could reach you
without giving their I added I added
them on the throwaway account. Yeah. So
they make a point of it. Yeah. Another
thing too if that person contacts us and
wants to remain that wants that to be
private. That's we're going to keep it
private. You don't you guys don't get to
leak [\h__\h] Yeah. I don't leak that [\h__\h]
So you we're that's how you're acting in
the comments. But you know I haven't
followed your work long enough to know
but knowing off the rip like vibe sake.
Hey, excuse me, accuser. If you're
looking at this, I give my vibe
approval. Oh. Oh, hell yeah. We're also
not not attacking them either. We're
just trying to parse through the
information. And you guys are barely
attacking KP. You're being mad at things
that are like, why the [\h__\h] did you have
to couch something worth talking about
in this? Yeah. Yeah. I like I I I don't
know. Oh, I've been doing Would you
believe me if I said I've been doing
this commentary thing longer than y'all?
Never. I've never watched one of your
videos. Never. Ever. I'm really happy to
hear that unironically.
If you you got my You've got my Greg
seal of approval. If you have a
recommendation, I will watch one of your
videos and then I will determine if I
want to watch another. No, I'm not going
to send you one. Good. I know which one
to send. Okay. Yeah. If a friend wants
to send one, that's on them. You don't
put that on me though. I didn't make you
watch anything.
Gun to my head. Gun gun to gun to my
head. What do I watch? Okay, but but
that's the thing, right? My issue is
that we are talking about new like you
are constantly making caveats and
asterisks. It's really unhealthy. It's
really unhealthy because you are you are
legitimately disenfranchising people's
own sexual experiences where they're
maybe uncomfortable and awkward.
Much love to Courtney with her like
genuine experiences, but objectively
some of the things she were saying uh
are just like they're wrong.
Wrong and I don't I would say wrong and
harmful. Harmful is not where I was
going to stop.
I don't I think harmful is a good word.
Again, I this is my Let's leave it I'm
going leave it there. I'm going to leave
it there. I'm gonna leave it there
because it's like I like No, like it's a
lot I'm learning tonight and it's like I
probably shouldn't like overdo it. Yeah.
Because
Courtney deserves the same, you know,
recom or the same charitability, I
think. No, I I understand. Again, I I'll
just repeat what I said a little
earlier. It just some of the things I'm
hearing, it just sounds like, oh, this
is still something that weighs really
heavily on you, and I'm I'm sorry for
that. Like that that I have sympathy for
you. That sucks. Don't get me wrong.
Some of you can't. But you
can't put the weird stuff on every
single other individual. Press the play
button. I can't deal with my internal
emotions anymore. The consent is there.
Because they will ask. And to be honest,
I'm trying. The only time you're not
asking or checking for consent is
because you know yourself that the yes
is not there. Oh my god. I [\h__\h]
can't. Oh, she said something so [\h__\h]
stupid.
Mm- She just said, "Wait, hold on. Hold
on." She just said that confident people
ask.
Well, when you don't ask, you want to
rape. That's literally what she's
saying. Don't say it like that. No,
because that's what she's [\h__\h]
saying. Because if you don't ask, you
have the intention to rape somebody.
That's what she's [\h__\h] saying. Guys,
guys, I have an immediate counter. Yeah,
I got the vibes from a guy, one guy, and
Yeah. I did want to [\h__\h] him and then we
got close and we were like making out
and then I said, "Actually, I don't want
it." And he's like, "Hey, my fault." Oh
my god. Argument over. Sorry, dog. No,
you're fine. No, it really is that easy.
It's supposed to be that easy. I
understand it comes from a place of
trauma, but it's like you can't like you
can't do that. If you don't know the
details like that, especially, you can't
be the source of authority. You're a
victim.
of specific circumstances the same way I
was.
I'm glad you like because they will ask.
I'm sorry. Mitch said you won. The only
time you're not
wait yourself that the yes is not there.
You don't want to hear the no. So you
will not ask. Okay? Because if you think
consent is complied and you think the
person that is, you know, on the other
end of it is actively participating. If
you know the answer is going to be yes,
then what do you have to lose by just
asking and being a responsible
individual? Okay, okay, I'm going to say
it's going to be cringe. I'm going say
asking, hey, is this good? Hey, is this
good? Are you sure you still like asking
like mid something is uncomfortable for
some people? Yeah, like it is. Who
thinks they're going to be
alive zombies after this? I will. I'll
have to buy I'm gonna [\h__\h] like you're
mine. Give me your Steam code. I I don't
have the game, but I'll buy it for you.
I think your computer can run it. Yeah.
[\h__\h] off, you [\h__\h] No, it's It came out
in 2015. He can definitely run it. You
don't know his computer. Uh, [\h__\h] you.
You son of a [\h__\h]
We'll work it out. We'll work it out.
Listen, I need a sugar daddy. Please
help me. Really? Really quick. Really
quick. Anyone who is tired, Anyone who's
tired, you can go to bed. It's okay. I
need a sugar daddy. Dude, I'm the most
I've ever been right now. Bro, what the
[\h__\h] Get to the rest. Okay, let's
If you're white or German or French or
English, get out right now. All right,
let's get to this. Let's get to this.
Let's get saved. Saved it. Let's go.
Like Rockstar sleeping with Wait, wait.
No, no. Here. No. This is the point that
you're remember when I said rockstar
sleeping with comes down to like
literally consent. Okay, we're gonna go.
We're gonna go to two to two to two to
two to two to two to two to two to two to two to two to two to two to two to
two to two to two to two to two to two to two back. Being a responsible
individual when it comes to sexual
practice and just asking. And the
difference between like rockstar
sleeping with groupies comes down to
like literally consent. Like there's a
big difference between, you know, the
chick who's going to see the rockstar
perform and like flashing her titties
while he's performing and then going and
flashing her titties to the bouncer to
get back. Flashing titties is consent.
She just said flashing titties is
consent. I'm not gonna Can I Can I like
a general take? I think it's bad that it
happens with YouTubers. I think it's
worse because the people who are
groupies know less. Yeah, sure. I also
like I personally don't even care about
group I'll be honest. I don't care about
groupy culture. It's too late. It's too
late. Yeah,
groupy culture is over. I think it's
just
like I just like we be talking about
like 30 [\h__\h] olds [\h__\h] 15 year olds
like [\h__\h] 15 year olds. Oh, and like
you actually catch that age gap sooner
in YouTube. You don't have discourse
about that on rock subreddits. Yeah, but
let's Yeah, let's just stage and then
flashing her titties in the rockstar's
face, probably making out with him a bit
of her own valition and one of them
saying, "Hey, let's go back and sleep in
the van." Like, there are multiple
instances where consent is very very
clearly given by the groupy sleeping
with a rockstar. And like yeah, there
may be a certain power dynamic and like
there absolutely is multiple instances
of what? Okay, so we're going on Neil
Gaiman. Okay, she flashes Neil Gaiman.
Yeah, did she fl like it's not this not
the same thing. And like why did you
pick the comic book writer versus the
Rockstar? She's [\h__\h] stupid because
she's [\h__\h] stupid. This is a terrible
argument for consent. I was about to
say, what are we on about right now?
This is a terrible.
This is a but this is a terrible
argument for consent because you are
allowing and you are you are okaying
some parasocial relationships but not
all. You cannot be for some and not all.
I'm sorry when you say that. You can't
say, "Oh, well, Saber Spark took
advantage of this fan, but not the
Rockstar because the Rockstar is getting
their titties getting titties in their
face. Who cares if they're underage
titties? They you know what I mean? Like
what are you saying? I think I think the
Rockstar groupy thing, I'm going to be
honest, is worse. I think it's worse.
Yeah. Well, that's that's what I'm
saying. Like we again this is for for
those who for those who are like, "Oh,
don't blame the victim." But that's
we're not doing that. But that's the
reason why their text conversation is
vitally important because we don't know
what the conversation between them was.
Were they ever discussing dating? was
did she pull back at one point? Like
that's an actual thing. If she clearly
said, "No, we can't do this in there."
That gives a lot more credence to the
fact that Saber Spark didn't give a [\h__\h]
about consent or didn't give a [\h__\h]
about it.
That's why people are asking the
flashbang, though. They did [\h__\h] the
13-year-old, though. Yeah, but that
that's Yeah. Did the Rockstar consent to
Yeah, that's a great thing. The Rockstar
didn't consent to the to the fl the
titty flashbang. isn't then does that
mean that the groupy is a
rapist? Like they don't like this is why
this this argument falls apart and
Courtney has no [\h__\h] clue
commandments. Sorry.
That's crazy. Also, just again, why is
this he part here? Why
is what does this have to do with what
happened? be because Courtney thinks
that she's a [\h__\h] expert matter.
You're not. I'm sorry. You're a [\h__\h]
YouTuber. You are not. You're a YouTuber
and and and it's really sad to say this.
You're a YouTuber and part of Oh god.
Part of the legacy is who your sister
is. And it [\h__\h] sucks to say that.
Can I say this aesthetically as
possible? Oh, the victim tweeted me
back. [\h__\h]
baller. Where? Where? Where did that?
Cuz I I'll DM you if you follow
me. [\h__\h] me. Crazy. Mouse 5. There we
go. I followed
you. There we
[Music]
go. I I followed you,
Rosie. No. I feel like a dead chicken in
a decaying in a coupe. No. again like
this is we have Yeah. Thank you, Alex,
for letting me know. Yeah. Thank you.
Thank you. That if you if you give up
your you give up your reputation and
quality of content for a little longer,
we can finish the video. I know. I know.
I know. Rockstar. You just got to go and
forget about all the difference between
going, "Hey, show your titties." And
someone going, "I'm showing you my
titties because I want to sleep with
you." Right? Like just just the act of
like basically showing you my titties is
in Well, why would he go to the room
with her? That's the same argument you
could say to go into the room with her.
In no way is I'm a big fan of yours an
invitation to touch somebody's body. No,
but going to the room weird that this
fan not by ours has a crush on him. So
he invites her back to his hotel room. I
went to a room. Okay. Like getting
invited back to the hotel room has
sexual conotations. And the fact that
she didn't realize that just shows how
naive she was and the fact that none of
that was communicated because clearly he
knew what he was invited back. People
have agency that is gay. Naive people
have agency. And that just gives me like
major the major ick to be quite honest
because like I don't care what you're
[\h__\h] as if acting like he's Simmons
inviting you back to you know the hotel
room when in reality he's
maybe back a little bit
animations apologize. Oh my god. None of
this important. Yes. She said flashing
your tits is an invite to touch you.
Yeah I know.
Yeah. Really?
Before he shows you his dick. That's not
the same thing at all. Like you think
there was some kind of weird parasocial
dynamic too that she felt uncomfortable,
you know, advocating for herself because
like oh this is the real Sabers Bark TM.
Like I don't want to feel you're going
to death and you know something on
Twitter asked me publicly like is there
pressure? I know we talked over it. I I
I heard it. I I know. I know. We know
what was said though. We you you guys
told us multiple times. If I'm if I'm
going to be honest, it's she said it
multiple times at this point. Yeah. We
can't go back every time we say
something stupid.
We're talking cuz we know this [\h__\h] is
stupid. This is the I can't believe
flashing your tits is not invite
encounters with fans. I guess of course
she would have felt uncomfortable
advocating for herself. Like most most
fans don't get to meet their idol in
person. So meeting your idol in person
is already a very um like exalted sort
of status. Like that's something most
fans dream of but never actually get to.
So once you put a fan in the situation
where they're meeting their idol in
person, it's the it's the same thing as
the rock star. You're so [\h__\h] You're
so [\h__\h] incompetent. You were
literally a [\h__\h] [\h__\h] You were
literally You were literally giving
excuses for this woman to be sexually
assaulted. You are so [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
You I I said it. I said it. I said the
[\h__\h] slur. I don't care anymore. I'm
done. I'm done. You are giving excuses
for people to be sexually assaulted. You
don't understand how [\h__\h] stupid it
is right
now. Like you are giving excuses.
There's never the Marty Gro themes or
[\h__\h]
I for summer break. But the Marty GR
there's a there's
a you kind of know you might see
something I think and so you would just
not go there, right? If you didn't want
to see anything, but it's just like
there's also a I mean I haven't been but
I'm told that there's a transaction of
beads for a flashing. Um that's still
like a sort of transactional thing
instead of just you know lifting your
shirt up. And I'm And I know I don't use
that word and I apologize.
I'm just what? It's crazy how all these
OP block people just slurs all the time.
I am apologizing. I don't Sorry. I said
to Birdie, she said that he sucks. I I'm
just I I don't like using slurs and I
apologize. I am just incredibly upset
that she is giving people an excuse, a
playbook on how to make implied consent.
And she's making an excuse for people
who will pray on others. It's upsetting
to a degree that I do not understand.
Chat, Florida, chat, I've never said it.
So I me by default am your favorite.
Yeah. The best brown people win again.
Yeah. And that includes offending their
suck. And like it's it the idol knows
that. And for like say like like anybody
to sit there and be like well you know
what if what if so and so wasn't aware
of the power dynamic like they always
know. You can always tell. You can
always feel it. You can tell when
somebody is sorry you [\h__\h] dude. Like
for someone who's going to sit there and
pray on that and be like well I know
you're not going to say no to me or at
least give me a hard boundary that could
possib I was saying was literally the
[\h__\h] basis of my argument for that
where it's like you wanted to make out
with them quite you made out with him.
No, it was because we had a [\h__\h]
disagreement. We went like it wasn't
even a him. It was a girl. We went to
the goddamn room. We talked at a hugged
and then we left and then people assume
we [\h__\h] Do you understand the issue?
Mhm. Do you understand like why I take
with what you're saying? It's like I
literally talked it out with the
opposite gender and people assumed we
[\h__\h] when we didn't and that was what
I was mad about.
Christ,
I can hear the echo in your house. You
all right? I'm a really rich person. A
big house. I was about to say, damn. All
right. Damn. All right. Damn. My office
is in the loft, you know. Damn. He's got
a loft. I got a [\h__\h] hole in the
wall. I live in the south, man.
I'm about to move in, I guess. Right
now.
I ain't going back. Things of you that I
know you wouldn't say yes to in any
other situation. appreciate it. And like
to be quite honest, no fan is going to
do any most, sorry, most fans are not
going to do anything other than fall
into line with that because again,
they're getting to an exalted status of
getting to meet their idol in person.
You know, they've been a fan of this
person, they've done art for this
person, they've dreamed of meeting this
person. They're not going to jeopardize
that by offending that person by saying
no. And not that those relationships
can't happen, but it's very tricky water
as far as, you know, establishing and
acknowledging a power dynamic and
discussing it before like even anything
were to happen. But I don't know. My
whole emmo has never really been to go
date your fans cuz you know it like your
fans are not a dating pool. They're like
they're just you know they're there to
consume your content. I don't know. It
just it's not it's not technically
illegal but it just kind of ick to me.
And in terms of dating your fans like I
don't know. I just kind of miss the days
where it was considered just not kosher
to date from your fan base. Like that
was
who PewDiePie married a fan. I I I don't
like I don't care. I don't care. Listen,
I don't care if you [\h__\h] a fan. If there
are other stuff about nuance and nuance,
I was going to say there's there's
nuance and stuff and like people are if
people are adults and it really is just
like a hit it and quit it situation.
I'll be real. I really don't give a
[\h__\h] I don't I don't I don't They're
adults. I don't care. Hiroynamics can be
overcome. So, if like they have a
long-term relationship, there's still
something that can be done there. If
they're an adult, I trust them to parse
the reality they live inside of.
Um, so if it's a fan who's like 20
something, they can never date a creator
they ever liked. I don't know, man.
Well, that's but that's the thing is
that the metric is they can never see
your videos. Like I'm so again there's
like there's nuance and like there's
there's like layers and stuff, right?
I'm not saying it can't ever be icky or
weird or you or
even great, you could still just be like
personally you could still just be like
uh and then move on with your life.
Again, I don't if everyone's an adult, I
don't care what what I'm saying is I
think the default is that it's weird and
I think with good reason. I don't think
there's good reason to think that like
somebody can't form a any sort of
relationship with like something that
they made. It's like that's happened
throughout a history, b modern, you
know, judge it for and
c [\h__\h] just sometimes don't
know. I mean, I I'm a I I will I'll keep
it a buck and I'll hold myself to a
standard.
I don't care personally because I
personally I personally don't care if it
if it happened to me. I I also hold the
right if a fan comes on to me and I
don't like it, I tell you
no. That like are we consenting adults?
Okay. But like I'm not going to play
this [\h__\h] like like I'm not Problem
solved. Yeah. Are we consenting adults
if a I I like I'm not [\h__\h] I'm not
dealing with it anymore. Like I think
that like we're fighting it for forever.
And it's at the end of the day it's
like if you use your status as a creator
to shame a fan, that's a completely
different story, especially if you've
slept with them. Um but like you know
what I mean? Like a fan came up to me
and we were chilling and we were hanging
out at a bar and [\h__\h] happened. I'm not
going to [\h__\h] like I I listen I'm not
here here's my ultimate take. I think
the context matters and that's a gay way
of getting out of it where it's you you
can come at it from every angle. There's
probably at least one situation outside
of like a crazy age gap. Yeah. that I
like wouldn't be like I think you
probably know enough about the world or
it's like I have family or it's like
someone's 26 he's dating a 46-year-old
that [\h__\h] could have a masters
right now. Yeah. Like the that
[\h__\h] could operate on my spleen.
Like I'm I'm I'm sorry. Like I'm just
not adults need to have agency. If you
take agency away from adults, there is a
larger issue at hand that people will
not like. It's there the ramifications
of taking agency from grown ass adults.
What you define as an an adult is one
thing, but when somebody gets a ways
past the collectively agreed thing.
Yeah. Like if you're 26 and you're like,
"No, I like this 40year-old." Yeah. I
don't [\h__\h] care. Like I don't I don't
I don't. And like I said, if you're a
fan with a lot of money and you want to
sugar me, go for it, baby. OF all day.
There's the power dynamic.
Listen, you won't pink pill me, but
we'll get somewhere, dog. If you own the
build [\h__\h] If you own the built war,
[\h__\h] like [\h__\h] [\h__\h] whatever you
want. Yeah, let's let's go. It was
considered poor form because like your
fans aren't your peers. And I just I
always question why like when somebody
can't pull from their peers, like why is
it that you can't like land somebody and
date somebody who's like on an even
playing field with you, why does there
have to be a power imbalance?
It's not a power imbalance. I'm sorry.
It's not a power imbalance. I'm going to
say it straight. Not a power imbalance
the way that you're saying it is. I like
this weird colloally new thing. I get
it, but like this once you're
understanding the situation, I'm sorry.
It's a power imbalance. Like like if you
like if you have no pull from your ears,
you can't date anybody lower than you.
Like uh and that's like what she's
talking about. I'm sorry. I've like
tuned every now and then. No, no, no,
no. Yeah. It's it's like if you're
dating from your fan base is because you
have like you have no
pull at all. And like it's it's like
like I'd say that sometimes other
creators like your your content. Yeah,
that's what I was about to say. Like I
am a fan of other people's [\h__\h] that
I'll never meet by the way. Like not me,
right? You were a fan of beef and then
you wanted to [\h__\h] me, right? I mean,
yeah, sure. Well, we could we could
agree with that.
It wasn't enthusiastic enough. I got to
move on. All right, guys. End of my time
on the stream.
I got everything I wanted out of.
Listen, you tried to milk. trying to
milk me dry more ways than one, if you
know what I mean. But you're still wet,
aren't you? I mean, we can fix that.
Crazy. Always like the joke was wet to
dry. Most of their relationships,
there's always a power imbalance. And if
you have a track record of having a
power imbalance in your relationships,
what is wrong with you? Like, why do you
need to have a oneup on somebody in
order to Why are we saying Why are we
saying there's a record? This is the
first thing we Okay, I'm just going to
continue. We're going to We're not going
over the We got to keep going. We got to
keep going. We do. We do. I'm just so
close to your testimony that you want to
comment on. If you question if it's a
violation, it probably was. If you feel
violated, that was not consent. You're
feeling your [\h__\h] axioms and logic,
please. Please.
I'm asking I'm asking you to [\h__\h]
adhere to the minimums.
I'm angry about academics. This is so
stupid. Oh my god. Amazing.
I'm I'm I got to pee, man. This is I'm
mad. He got so mad he has to pee,
brother. Okay. Hey, to be fair, it's an
OCD compulsion. It is. Your feelings are
technically now you're enabled. Consent
is never implied. Okay. Um, real men who
get [\h__\h] ask for consent. I guess
that's it. Right. [\h__\h] Uh, what a what
a good way to end the video. Not end the
video, end the segment. What a good way
to end the segment. Why make this video?
Unfortunately, this is ins here. I'm not
going to play the end of this video. The
end of this video is telling people how
to be better people. [\h__\h] you, Kim. Uh,
uh, then the other part of the video is
discussing uh discussing uh the [\h__\h]
uh the [\h__\h] uh the the what's what's
her stupid [\h__\h] name? Lily Orchard.
Because let's make fun of her for it.
Again, I don't care. So, uh, on the dark
place there are, uh, some of the, uh,
voice actresses and actors are saying
that they were contra they were
contacted to do VA work, but they were
never told what it is. They continue to
talk about it a little bit more, saying,
"Hey, big fan blah blah blah blah blah
blah." And look who says that it was
true that they were never told what the
video was about. I love Kim Possible. If
I click on the YouTube page, holy [\h__\h]
is that the real I love Kim Possible.
Yes, it is. It's the real person. Here's
what I love to say. I love KP should
never ever ever ever ever touch
allegations like this again. I ever oop
I just got my my camera out. I love
Impossible should never touch
allegations like this again. I think
it's very [\h__\h] damaging. She I in my
opinion ruined uh uh not necessarily
quote unquote credible allegations but
but allegations that could have been
levied against him. Um I think it should
have been a separate video. It's couched
in all of their private concerns, all
their private problems. And I'm [\h__\h]
tired. I'm exhausted. I want to
literally crash out again. Courtney, you
want to debate me on your weird [\h__\h]
crazy idea of [\h__\h] uh uh [\h__\h]
consent? Go for it. You literally said
flashing titties was consent. You got no
[\h__\h] stake in the game. But
chat, that's the end of our 9h hour and
17 minute stream. I want to thank
everybody for turning work day. That's a
work day. That's a [\h__\h] hours. I love
each and every one of you. Each and
every one of you are great. Uh uh uh
doing great work. If you haven't already
joined the Discord, please join the
Discord. Uh if you become a fan of this,
that's what we do. Fali, the vid in the
description is the hypno vid. I'll fix
that later. Uh [\h__\h] me. I didn't realize
that. But we're going to keep going. You
want to do a cosign right now? Cosign
quite. Go do it. [\h__\h] Fei made me
want to catch up with the stream. I
joined at like a two hours mark and got
caught up at like the four hours mark
because I had to walk away and do some
[\h__\h] This guy's know this guy knows
what he's doing. He got got he got
people in here in the chat and he was
able to like like match himself to their
energy and got some really great work
out of that and like brought this con
this situation closer to consensus. Even
that that will never truly exist. He did
more work than you'll ever see most
people do. And that can only be
attributed to him and his team. Ash,
Greg, [\h__\h] all of them. Cloudy, like
you gotta respect they work to do here,
right? Right. Thank you. Come on, Chad.
You got to respect. You got to respect
the dedication. They do it long. They
they let people come in and they speak
with them. That's some [\h__\h] like you
can't speak earnestly about with a lot
of people and you got to love it. Well,
I want to thank everybody. Thank you so
much. I appreciate that. I want to thank
Quite. You guys earned it. I want to
thank Quite for for being here. I want
to thank each and every one of you.
Greg, Cloudy, Ash, I want to thank
everybody. Black Ops 3. Sigh, you're the
best. I'm going to Here's the end card.
I'm tired. Killjoy, you did the greatest
things. Trans Ultron forever. And you
know what? Uh, [\h__\h] me. I'm dying.
Bye-bye everybody. your head.