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Thank you.
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Hello. Hello. Hello. How's everybody
doing?
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It's been a while, everyone.
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I've been a little I've been a little
bit of uh little bit absent, I would
say. I think that's fair to say.
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And it's been even longer since I've
done a reaction video of any kind.
Um, I made a couple images uh for this
and um
I will make them available on my Tumblr
after the stream. I'll post a high ref a
high depth version of all of these that
I will be using today in case you want
to look at them or download them or
whatever.
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Hello Anthony.
Welcome, welcome. Always nice to have
you in chat. And hello Naruto and Hermy
and Cupid and Gwen and Laura and Billy
and Goblin and Oddball and Chris
and Jean and Regulus and Mac and Garbo
and uh Sparrow if they came came back.
Oh, it's no problem, Naruto. It's okay.
And hello, replica rabbit.
All right,
so
little little bit of a primer before we
get this show on the road.
Um,
the reason I made this picture is
because I think what has happened a lot
to people that did co cover Lily Orchard
um, last year and the year before is
that they want to recapture that
feeling.
Um, and they're not going to. I've made
a chart.
This is a good chart, unlike some of the
charts that we've seen on this channel.
I made a little cheat sheet for reaction
video content, but it also goes not just
for a react stream, but if you're
talking about another person's like
video on YouTube,
um, you have your three different kinds
of people. Your decent people, your
neutral people, and your awful people.
And you have three different kinds of
takes. You have your good takes, your
reasonable takes, and your bad takes.
And these work together to make
a more complex sum of their parts.
So
I am feeling skiibby today, Gwen. Thank
you for asking.
Uh so a lily orchard
kind of operates mostly in the bottom
right
right here. sometimes
in this panel when she's lucky,
but it's always going to be it's always
going to kind of bite you in the ass
having a reaction video
about a bad person. Oh, thank you for
the super chat, Paige.
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Keep me company on the graveyard shift.
I shall. But yeah, so
Lily's not a great person and her takes
are usually bad or like, you know,
inoffensive
uh at best. So, while covering her can
be great,
um,
look out because it can get you into a
cycle, I think, of you're constantly
seeking out
another bad person with awful takes.
Um, when the truth of the matter that
most bad takes are made by the people on
the bottom, the bottom left. Most of the
bad takes that people make
are usually around here.
Um,
now I love uh this bottom left section
right here.
Um, Matt Pat,
God love him.
Like he lives here. He lives here.
Matthew Patrick and Game Theory A tall
live in this square.
Sometimes sometimes here, but usually
here.
They're fun to engage with um because
the takes are bad and you there's a lot
to talk about and respond to and you can
get worked up without it like really
meaning anything.
Um, you also have, but you know, like
sometimes you might get defenders like,
"Oh, why are you why you busting this
guy's chops?" That's why,
um, I suggest for beginners to do
neutral people with bad takes because
you won't get a lot of defenders, but
they still have bad takes. So, it's like
easy mode. So, you know, there's not a
lot of negativity that is going to come
after you if you if you come after
somebody or you criticize somebody
that's like a neutral person that's like
they haven't done anything like
egregious but they're not like,
you know, everybody's precious boy.
Um,
and then people like Lily kind of
operate here where they suck and their
takes suck and it's and it's it's fun,
especially in the moment to pick them
apart, but it's just it the fallout's
always being nuts, you know.
Um, and then you got your reasonable
takes.
Um, you know, maybe maybe somebody that
has a reasonable take and is a decent
person, maybe you might want to work on
them and like expand their idea a little
bit. Um, you can work with the ideas
they have, but you still have
room to move around yourself instead of,
you know, them riding the whole collab
and you just sit on your on your hands
while they do everything. So, like
reasonable take, decent person,
you know, and you know, any kind of
person can make any kind of take, just
so we're clear. Um, a neutral person
with a reasonable take. I might not want
to collab with them because I don't know
a lot about them, but I could use their
video as a jumping off point. It's a
conversation starter. Um, reasonable
takes made by awful people.
uh controversy and pain. Um
you can't really get enough out of them
for it to be entertaining
and
they're a bad enough person that they're
not afraid to hit below the belt, so to
speak.
Um,
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I will be sharing I'll be sharing my
charts and any images that I've made for
this video on my Tumblr after the
stream. Um, I think the chart's already
on the Discord server. Um,
and finally, you have good takes.
If a neutral person or a decent person
makes a good take, you don't have
content. You're just going to be sitting
on your butt saying, "Uh-huh. Yep. Yep.
They're so right. There's Yes, that's
exactly what I think. It's It's
difficult to respond to a good take in
general. And then
if it's a good take made by an awful
person,
you're going to be fighting an uphill
battle to
get their awfulness recognized.
And we've seen we've seen a lot of this,
I think.
So yeah, that's my little chart that I
made today. Um, I think I think it's a
pretty good chart.
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But yeah, I um I don't think there's
anything wrong necessarily with covering
the takes of bad people that have bad
takes or even reasonable takes that you
want to push back against.
Um, but you got to know what you're
getting into, I think. Um,
it's easier to talk about people and
honestly more fun to talk about people
that don't have all that baggage, but
maybe just have bad opinions or like
opinions that you don't agree with. Um,
that's my suggestion.
Um,
and the big danger of bad take awful
person is uh that you're going to get
sucked into a vortex. Um, and you're
never going to escape. On that note,
we have a video to watch.
Uh, let's get a better
Yoop. There we go. And let's No more
music. We're done with the music.
I'm gonna read back in chat. What are
you guys saying? Yeah. What video am I
referring to?
Yeah. On that note, on the note of
people getting sucked into stupid
vortexes and never escaping,
um,
yeah, I I I think what happened with KP
is that
she really liked the feeling of being
one of the first people
um that actually knew Lily personally to
call her out. and she got to see in real
time as Lily's channel was just
decimated.
And she's had some interpersonal issues
with Sabers Spark in the past. It's
another ex-friend from the brony
community. And I think she wanted to be
part of that movement to get him
removed.
Except
she kind of worked backwards, right?
instead of,
"Oh, this person
did something bad, so I won't be friends
with them anymore,
and I will therefore talk about my
experiences with them." She went from,
"This person isn't my friend anymore,
therefore I need to find
a way to show that they're a bad
person." Um, that's my general
impression.
Um, yeah. And yeah, KP has okay takes
with media, but I'm not talking I'm not
talking just talking about KP's takes.
I'm more speaking as how KP uh sort of
engaged with Elite Orchard and then
tried to engage with Sabers Spark in the
same way. So, this is this is very meta.
We're like three levels up right now.
Um,
uh, so
yeah, I think she was not happy with,
uh, Saber Spark and was hoping to punish
him in the same way that Lily Orchard
got punished. Um, and she made it really
personal. Um,
and I never bought this [\h__\h] with Sabers
Spark, and I'll tell you why. Um, and a
few of you that have been around my
community and Anony's community and, uh,
although I'm not speaking to her
currently, uh, Sai's community as well
might remember this. Um, but the reason
I knew that this was [\h__\h] is because
a few months before this whole Saber
Stark thing happened, uh, KP and Anthony
had a falling out and I saw it happen
with my own two eyes in real time.
Um,
Anthony mentioned offhand I'm going to
keep playing the music because we're not
actually
K um Anthony mentioned offhand that oh
that you know we were going to work on a
video together and it just sort of fell
through and then KP took that to such a
fence you'd think that Anthony
personally killed her dog and then like
you know like killed like a bunch of
school children right in front of her
And the way that she talked about
Anthony in that conversation and then
how her and Courtney Pete talked about
him following that conversation was
exactly how they went on to talk about
Saber Spark.
Um, when I know Anthony, I would say
pretty well. Uh, you know, he's one of
my he's one of my good friends. Um,
I've known him for about a year and a
half now. I mean, we only know each
other online, but like, you know, I
think we know each other decently well.
So, hearing her talk about him in that
way, I was like, well, this is obvious.
This isn't what are you guys talking
about?
What do you guys What do you What do you
mean? Um,
and to hear that reflected in the way
that they talked about Saber, I was just
like, hm, this something this doesn't
seem right.
Oh, thank you, Anthony. Um,
but anyway, uh, I just got the
impression that there was probably a
falling out and that, um,
and that KP
was just looking to punish someone. That
was the impression that I got. And after
that and the Black Griffin stuff, if you
are a YouTuber that sometimes covers
drama, that's one thing. Like I, you
know, like I'm not going to pretend I'm
above that. I'm doing I'm reacting to
some drama right now. But if you go out
of your way looking for it, if you start
self-identifying
as a predator hunter,
which is what Courtney and KP were doing
was self-identifying as predator
hunters,
it's going to be a everything looks like
a nail
when
you know when you're when you're holding
a hammer. Um,
so it becomes less about
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I have some issues with Saber Spark and
I don't like how he treated me as a
professional and as a friend. You could
have said that KP if you wanted to say
that if you wanted to speak your truth
and that was your feelings and
experiences with Sabers Spark. A that
could have been a call in not a call
out. um you could have just I'm sure you
know that could have been discussed in a
more healthy manner. But two, if that's
just something you wanted to share with
your fans and with the community, I'm
sure people would have listened to you.
But you because you started identifying
as a predator hunter,
you you had to make him a predator.
You had to make him a predator in your
video. I have not seen anybody's
reaction to this yet. I've heard some
people talk about it, but I haven't
watched the video. I don't know really
what's in it. Um, so I think it's time
to get this show on the road. This video
discusses sensitive topics including
grooming, power dynamics, and online
harassment. Viewer discretion is
advised.
>> Oh boy.
>> 18 plus content warning. Do not harass
anyone discussed in this video. Hi
everyone. Welcome to the video for the
It's the serious illustration of KP
because we can't see her cuz her goofy
little Sona wouldn't be appropriate, I
suppose. Don't worry, KP. My goofy
little son is on this on the stream. Uh,
we have to keep goofy little Sona um
representation uh visible at all times.
Those who don't know me, I'm the
YouTuber I love Kim Possiblot, which is
a very long name, but I'm known as KP on
online spaces. I mostly do Disney and
cartoon media analysis, but we aren't
here for that.
Thank you for the super chat. Straight
tax. Thank you, Adrian.
Why am I shifted over a little bit? Oh,
and another super chat.
Les, I know they aren't true predator
hunters because they didn't even talk
about the schlle, someone who did get
predators arrested situation once. I
mean,
the thing about the whole predator
hunting thing is it's not actually about
helping people. It's about feeling
morally righteous. It's not about
victims. It's about your sense of being
a hero.
No, you aren't today. Today Today we're
here to talk about another video I did
recently that didn't go over so well.
The video is intended to be concerning
about problematic behaviors in online
spaces, community safety, especially
concerning children, and my own
experiences regarding certain YouTubers
and content creators named this video.
However, even the best of intentions can
go ary, and it's safe to say that mine
certainly did, causing unintended harm
and confusion in a situation where
clarity and resources are paramount. The
video in question went live on my
channel in May earlier this year being
removed within hours of upload since I
understood the message did not come off
as what I
Let's read this.
I'm sorry I'm being such a slob. I'm
also eating hamburger. One sec.
Okay. I've heard the concerns about the
recent video and want to acknowledge
that parts of it didn't land the way I
intended.
While it was reviewed by several people,
including CSA survivors who were
comfortable with the tone. Thank you for
the super chat. When the PNG tuber's
arms are crossed, you know it's serious.
Are her arms crossed?
Um,
I now understand that others experienced
it very differently, and that's valid.
Okay, so I'm getting that she's
responding specifically to how she put a
bunch of jokes and memes in the video.
This is my first time covering a topic
of this nature. No, it wasn't. And I'm
still learning how to handle serious
subject matter with the right level of
care. I've taken the video down and I'm
considering how to approach it more
thoughtfully if it's revised. The intent
was never to diminish anyone's story or
experience. Thank you to those who
provided feedback. I appreciate the
chance to make the changes necessary to
give proper respect to the material
discussed. So, she's not apologizing for
false
accusations towards Saber Spark. She's
apologizing for the tone of the video.
Okay.
So,
I'm glad that she's
telling us now that she's not sorry for
accusing an innocent man
who maybe was a little bit awkward in
the bedroom when he was younger with
sexual assault. I'm glad that she's not
I'm glad that she's being clear that
she's not sorry about that from the get
get. Uh, also, uh, KP, I hope that, uh,
all that money that you have from your
family, I hope Sabers Spark takes every
[\h__\h] penny of it.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, she wants to memoryhole a video.
Oh, it gets so much worse. I'm so
excited.
>> I haven't yet spoken on the issue
publicly, choosing to take time and
space to be able to address legitimate
concerns of the video with a clear head
and level emotions. For those of you who
still have no idea what I'm talking
about, earlier this year, I released a
video about
>> We all know what you're talking about.
the online actions of DA Games
associates Chris Deficados and Will
Ryan, another YouTuber named Steven or
Savior Spark, and the association
between them that creates a dangerous
space for miners to occupy, including
I love the little No, seriously, guys,
look at all this bad [\h__\h] that I found.
I was God. Okay,
>> the video was my own testimony of
interactions with Steven as well as
third party testimony of additional
interactions with Steven. The third
party testimony includes accusations of
essay from a person named Emily,
accusations I platformed on video that
in hindsight wasn't suited for testimony
that heavy. Some other notable issues
that were pointed out about my video was
the tone. The general consensus was that
the tone throughout the video was jokey
and that I came across as making light
of some serious accusations and
conversations as well as my social media
postings leading up to the release of
the video. My postings came across as
bragging, clout chasing, and once again
that I was making light of a serious
situation.
You literally
made meme art
casting yourself as Moses from the
prince of Egypt
and Saber Spark as Ramsy's
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girl. This wasn't just an accident. This
is Okay.
What?
What this is? And it's my least
favorite. Yes, Kyla. Once again, we
learned shutting the hell up is a
valuable skill not everyone has. Yes.
Yep. Okay.
So,
not for the first time in my YouTube
career and on our and on these streams,
we are
encountering a person who is not afraid
or sorry, they're not sorry that they
did something. They're sorry that it got
them in trouble. Um,
she's not upset about the tone of the
video. She is upset
that she didn't get butt pats for it.
She wanted people to laugh. She wanted
people to feel triumphant. The reason
she's saying, "I'm sorry that you guys
took it the wrong way,"
isn't because she's sorry that what she
made
was offensively terrible. She's sorry
that
she wasn't celebrated as this hilarious
uh meanie hero that really put that
Saber Spire guy in his place. That's
what she's sorry about.
Sorry is such an easy word to say.
And don't you guys dare make fun of my
pronunciation of that word. I will
consider it a hate crime and you will be
banned. I'd like to firstly apologize
for anyone who is hurt by my tone both
throughout the video and on my socials.
My joking and memeing was contained to
my own experiences as I deal with my own
trauma that way. I make dark jokes and
make light of my own situations.
Something I didn't realize was not
universal and might come off as if the
tone pertain to anyone's experiences
that weren't my own. And I do want
people to understand that it was
directed at my own experiences, but I'm
okay.
Listen,
Rachel, I'm calling you Rachel because
you're being a freak and calling Saber
Spark Steven. Rachel. Um,
I make dark jokes, too.
But there's a difference between dark
jokes and the weird triumphant lady
boner that you were like displaying for
all to see. Um
about how much you were just really
showing Saber Spark who's boss.
Thank you for the super chat. Adrien,
why does she always call Sabers Spark by
his real name? Um,
they know each other IRL, but
notice that KP didn't introduce herself
as Rachel. She just continued to call
herself KP.
Um,
it's a power play. Um,
it's it's it's absolutely a power play
to it's it's denying someone's chosen
identity and using their quote unquote
real identity as like a form of
trying to get one one over on them. Um,
jokes put on public
do not count as contained. Yeah.
It's also
It's also might be because she's hoping
that if she doesn't say Saber Spark out
loud
too much that I think maybe she's hoping
it won't appear when you search Saber
Spark.
But yes,
um we've also seen this um from a
certain other YouTuber that refu that
always uses people's real names if she
knows them to try and like have it's
it's just a power play.
Anyway, I'm sorry that it didn't
translate properly. Another thing I'd
like to personally address is Courtney
Pete and her treatment of another CSA
survivor in the live chat of the video
premiere.
I'm so tired of Courtney.
Sorry that I'm just going quiet, but I'm
I need you guys to know that a lot of us
really tried with Courtney.
Um,
but she's like a very vindictive person
if you don't do exactly what she wants.
Okay, I'm going to press play. I just
know I'm just like, you ever like this
you feel something is about to happen in
a video, you just have to prepare for
the cringe. I'm preparing to cringe.
I have spoken to both Courtney and the
affected individual. Apologize on
Courtney's behalf. And going forward,
since she doesn't want to apologize
herself, I'm cutting public ties with
her. Well, I can't.
>> That's the smartest thing you've said so
far, girly.
Just I just recommend to anybody
watching this video.
Do not associate with uh with Courtney
Pete. She's a very troubled person. Um
I hope she gets better.
Um
but you don't have to be there for that,
you know? like we don't have to be there
to watch her get better. Control the
actions of another grown individual. I
can control how and if she's associated
with my working channel. Now, I'd like
to take some time to go over my original
intentions of the video. The
conversation I wanted to start in the
message that fell short. Yeah, of course
she's throwing KP or of course she's
throwing Courtney under the bus. Um,
she's
Yeah. I mean,
the fact of the matter is that this was
KP's video, you know. Um, she didn't
have to put those things up there up
there. She could have banned Courtney
from her chat or like timed her out and
gotten her to sit back. Um,
as somebody that has cut ties with
Courtney in the past myself about a year
ago, as of now,
um,
I think it's the right decision just
because you're never going to be able to
make her happy in this space. But yes,
she did absolutely use KP as a she KP
absolutely did use Courtney as an attack
dog. Um, and then let her take the blame
for a lot of things. Um,
and honestly, I don't think that
Courtney should have been involved in
this at all. Um
because this isn't coming from a space
of like, "Holy [\h__\h] girl, you're going
through a lot and I can't help you." Um
so I I can't be involved with you. This
is coming from you are no longer of use
to me. Um which I think is shitty. Um
at the end of the day, that's what's
going on.
So I'm sorry for speaking too lightly.
That was that was that was very rude of
me. Um because
while I'm
very much at the end of my rope with uh
with uh Courtney and I'm very in general
upset with her and the way she's treated
me and some of my friends.
Um
I am I I don't think that means it was
okay for KP to use her. But anyway,
Steven or Saberspark employs an editor
by the name of Chris who owns a Discord
server. Chris is also employed by Will
who owns the D8 Games Discord server.
There are a lot of names to keep track
of. I know. Will has a pass of posting
pornographic racist and sess
and anti-semitic
>> content in both his and Chris's servers.
His own server, the DA game server
having
one second. Uh
Jesus Christ. Let me just um
I just age.
Oh my god.
Uh,
hold on. Let me uh
Oh, let me agegate this freaking stream.
Where the [\h__\h] do I do that again? Um,
okay. Hold on. No, it's not age
restriction. Advance. Show more
altered comment.
Uh
on a No. No.
Let me let me go 18 plus. You fool.
They do not make age gating uh your
stuff easy. I got to say
visit ability. I don't freaking know.
restrictions. None
audience. It's not
whatever. It wasn't for that long. We're
good. I It was just Holy crap.
Jesus Christ.
Oh boy.
Yeah, she just didn't censor any of
that. Children as young as 11 may
be younger with access to these posts.
Not only do children as young as 11 have
access to this content, but there are
also children as young as 12 given mod
status. The same server also has a man
accused of and arrested of child
grooming. This is Will's own views on
how children should.
>> Okay, so it has been brought to my
attention that there are three names who
have been abusing our mod.
Calling out that because of age, they
shouldn't be allowed time and time
again. I can't believe I have to keep
mentioning this, but mods are placed not
on age, but maturity. Imagine if you
took a 41year-old who acted five and a
12-year-old who acts 26. Well, let me
tell you, this has happened and will
happen periodically. not in this server
but life itself. It it's not about age.
It is indeed about the level of maturity
be interacted with online with some
12year-olds are more mature that some
eccentric. It's just a common reflex. We
all act like we're freaking enjoying
ourselves without a gain or loss and
that this community is founded on. Learn
to respect this or you will be kicked.
You have been born and I and trust me. I
have recording of footage for proof if
you want to try to tell me you didn't.
cut our mods some slack and don't drill
them.
Okay, here's the thing. Maybe neither of
those people should be mods.
Maybe a 45year-old who acts five and a
12-year-old, neither of them should be
mods. Maybe you should find mods that
are mature and adults. I know, what a
concept.
KP and censoring is a crack of mine.
It's never going to happen.
40year-olds. Oh, hold on. My phone's on
silent. I'm a professional. I'm a
professional. I'm a professional. I I
don't even know what to say at this
point. Like, this is nominally not an
apology video, right? Like this is
literally just her being like, "No, see
you guys, I was right. I just need to
tell it to you in a slightly different
order of words. If I say the right words
in the right order, then everybody will
agree with me because it's not possible
that I'm wrong. I just have to say the
right thing or I just have to say the
thing I want to say in the right way and
then you'll agree with me."
All right, we don't have
>> I'd like to point out that this is
groomer mentality. This is the same sort
of language used to make a child feel
special and grown up when receiving
inappropriate attention from grown
people online or off. Not to also saying
I just want to say um that saying that
hey kids I know that the space that you
are in right now is not good but the
space that I have is good. So come to my
space
because my space is safe for you and you
don't have that's also a grooming
tactic. It might never get sexual. Um,
but you are like using children for that
sort of feeling that KP is after. while
she might not be and Courtney I would
say I know Courtney's had some weird
conversations with underage people but I
don't think that like I think that there
are significant number of people that
while they're not like interested in
having a sexual relationship with a
child they'll still use that child to
foster that sense of being the hero and
I think that's what K KP and Courtney
have always wanted. Um,
anyway,
mentioned that Discord's own terms of
service state that the users must be 13
to even be on the platform. Terms Will
and Chris seem to be happy to help
children break. How and why does this
pertain to Steven?
>> Well, frankly, I see an issue with the
content creator employing someone who
directly contributes to inappropriate
interactions with children online. Okay.
payment should be inbound here, but I
wanted to run a question by you. I had
someone approach me here on Discord with
a matter that allegedly involved you and
KP in some deviant behavior. Um, the
deviant behavior is uh Chris making a
joke that he I don't know either landed
in a pile of panties or like jerked off
with her panties. I don't even know if
this actually happened, but he joked
about it, which is weird and gross and
like
why would you date? But that says more
about Chris than I think it says about
KP. So, it's not like KP was I mean, if
somebody told me that, I'd be like,
don't ever talk to me again, you [\h__\h]
weirdo. Um, but I don't think I'd like
chase down anyone who's ever spoken or
worked with a guy. I would just avoid
him.
I don't know. I feel like
I feel like I have a lot more on my
plate than like chasing down everybody
that is associated with someone that
said has said something icky to me,
especially from that long ago. Um,
is there any validity to these claims?
Is something I need to know about with
people I employ? I hope you see where
I'm coming from with this question. We
resolved this issue a few days ago, so
everything is okay if you don't mind me
asking. Not that it's my business to
know details, but just making sure all
is good and on the level with the people
who work with me on my team. Yep. All
resolved. She wouldn't want me to
divulge anything if that's all right.
Her privacy is important. Understood.
Just doing my part to be vigilant with
my own people. Glad you are all
resolved. Leaving it at that. And from
what I've seen,
uh, this is true. She was being a bit of
oh, you know, she's being a bit dramatic
with the parting between her and Chris,
but it seemed, I would say, amicable and
like mildly like, okay, it is what it
is. That was the impression that I got
to.
It didn't happen. Was just a gross,
inappropriate joke. Yeah, it was. It
was. And like, you know, I've had I've
had people in my past that have made
gross, inappropriate jokes. And again,
just stop talking to them if it's
bothers you that much. But I think that
it was more of a gross, inappropriate,
immature joke from a really long time
ago that honestly that I just don't
understand why you're still I still
bothered by it.
And like, here's the thing. I don't
think she's still bothered by it. I
think she just wants to be she wants to
be be seen as the victim and the hero
and the she needs a bad guy. But anyway,
and by providing a space where it's
normalized, welcome, and defended. I see
an even bigger issue when that content
creator has a history of posturing
himself against child predators as being
the voice that calls them out, but is
fine to employ people who do this very
thing he himself has condemned in the
past. And it isn't as if Steven has no
idea that this was going on under his
nose. I myself had reached out to him
directly and through at least
sent you an email. Let me know if Steven
will take this seriously at all. I
already let him know it's coming down
the pipe. He's talking to so and so
about it since he's currently working on
a video with Chris, but that's all I
know right now.
I if I was seeing as how you spoken to
him in public,
if it were me, I wouldn't be opening
emails from KP.
Like I would be like throwing them
directly into the trash. Just because
you sent an email to somebody doesn't
mean they read it.
Two different people to look into the
issue and do something about it. Despite
my repeated efforts to bring this issue
to his attention, Stephen
I was never contacted by any friend of
yours, nor did you ever make any attempt
to reach out to me on your own behalf
via Twitter, email, or anywhere else.
You are emitting so much information
right now, but I'll provide some here in
a sec. Under your original post, we
could talk privately screenshot.
Suddenly, you're ready to talk
privately, KP. Okay. Okay.
Oh boy.
never spoke to me or commented on the
issue. Meanwhile, he was supposedly
talking to someone else about the same
issue with third party. Not to mention
the fact that Chris himself has
submitted to and bragged about a little
sex crime that Steven brushed off as a
Okay.
So,
we're going to talk about a word that
gets thrown around a lot.
We're going back over here for a while
while I talk about it.
um because this is the vibe today. Um
we're going to talk about a word that
gets thrown around a lot. Um and I don't
think anybody knows what it means
and that word is pto jacketing.
Now what is pedtojacketing?
Uh it is not as some people act like it
is accusing someone of pedophilia. If
I'm like, "Hey, that guy over there,
he's a pedto. He's a PDF file." I'm not
peding that person, regardless of if
that person is or is not a pedophile.
Just accusing someone of being a
pedophile
is not peding.
What is pedtojacketing, however,
is [\h__\h] like this
where
KP has loaded our brain
with
abusing children, minors, minors. Like,
children are in danger. There's kids
involved. There's kids involved. And
then she says
he committed an actual sex crime.
Now, if you didn't know about the
situation, and if you were not reading
this closely, pausing it, she doesn't
read this out. I am 99% certain 99.999%
certain that she's not going to actually
say what the what the sex crime is.
She's just going to flash it up on
screen.
If you heard this in a vacuum with no
other evidence, you are going to assume
that the sex crime in question is
molesting a child. Okay?
And it's not. It's a stupid joke that
this guy made that was gross.
probably made you feel really bad
and even violated. Uh, and those
feelings are valid, by the way. It's I I
am sure you felt very violated hearing
about this, especially hearing about
this from a third party after it had
been like thrown around a lot.
But it's not a sex crime. Mhm.
>> It's it's yucky, but it is but but
you've you've loaded us to think about
pedophilia and then you said sex crime
when in fact the sex crime had nothing
to do with children. And that's what
that that's what pedtojacketing is
exactly. It's laying out those crumbs
for you to make that logical leap of oh,
you're saying something.
And I think what you're saying is this
person is a pedophile. And that's what
pto jacketing is. Um, you might also say
it's like, oh wow, that person sure does
love Oscar from a Vanelon a lot. That's
kind of weird.
And then like why is it weird? Is it
weird because she's 14? Hm. Are you
saying that this person is a pedophile?
As another example, it is not literally
just saying this person's a pedophile.
It's creating that sort of implication
without coming right out and saying it.
Um, we already have a word for lying
about somebody or we already have a term
for lying about if somebody is a
pedophile. It's called false pedophile
allegation.
We already have a word for that. We Ped
jack jacketing was invented so that we
could
talk about a different concept.
It's yeah it's leaving the impression
that someone's a pedto but not directly
saying it so that you can weasle your
way out of it basically. Yes. Um, it
also can work in very insidious ways
where you can say everybody that likes a
Vangelon is a pedto, you know,
all of a sudden and then anytime someone
sees a fan of a Vangelon, they're like
pet files like that. So that must mean
that anybody that likes it is a pedto
and you're ped jacketing an entire group
of people. for example.
Um,
but yes, so that's what's happening
right now in front of us as we watch
this video.
Um,
by the way, a sex joke. It should also
be noted that in all of Steven's
responses to the allegations, he has
still not spoken on, condemned, or cut
ties with Chris, Will, or Dia Games. And
once again, for someone who not very
long ago had plenty to say on whether
Gabriel Brown was or wasn't a groomer,
that child predation online is terrible.
And he
I think the Black Griffin stuff is
weird.
Um, I don't like it,
but it's hard to talk about right now
because both parties are adults.
Um,
you know,
sometimes weird creepy things are going
to happen.
Um, and you just have to leave it alone.
My question here is, what do you want
Chris to do? What do you want Black
Griffin to do? Um, Black Griffin isn't
going to go to jail.
Okay, he technically didn't. It's weird,
but he didn't do anything illegal. Um,
Chris made that mistake a long time ago,
and he was never going to like go to
jail for making a shitty joke. Um, he
has apologized to you. He has apologized
in public. We know that he's sorry. It
was a nasty joke that would have weirded
me out to hear it, much less be the one
who is a subject about it. But what do
you want him to do? Do you want him to
never work in the industry again?
Like, is that what you want?
um you just want him to have no friends
and you don't want him to get any work
and like would you would you have
problems with other places of businesses
offline for hiring him too and have be
mad that other people are friends with
him? Like like what do you want to
happen? Like what is the end goal here?
Because to me the end goal seems that
everybody kisses KP's ass forever. That
seems to be the end goal to me with this
whole thing.
self has been abused as a child. It
seems odd that he has nothing to say
about his own employees child predation
even to condemn it, let alone him
excusing masturbation onto a stranger's
clothes, a buyer hazard and sexual
harassment as a joke. And now on to
Emily. In regards to Emily's testimony
and accusations against Steven, she has
released her own video that will be
linked in the comments, and I encourage
people to go watch it and hear her.
>> It's an hour long.
I don't know if I want to watch that.
Not today. Maybe we'll we'll think about
it. Her story from her own mouth. While
I don't regret believing someone, I do
understand that I wasn't the best
equipped to be the person breaking a
story like that to the public for the
first time. When it came to other
people's coverage of the situation,
whether or not they had spoken to me in
person, a lot of my intent with the
video and what I chose to platform in it
was assumed. Concerns to me that are so
much legitimate were and continue to be
brushed off as cloud chasing or jealous
women's scorn and mentality. People who
have never spoken to me or heard my side
of anything spoke with absolute
authority.
Sai did know you though like you were in
her server. You were pinging around with
her.
I don't know about those other people,
but like you were friends with Saiy
intentions and desires and people who
did speak to me in person painted our
conversations in a different light when
presenting them to her own respective
audiences. This led to a good number of
people speaking down to me, harassing
me, and sending me death threats largely
based on the assumption that I was a
bitter, jealous, stupid woman targeting
an innocent, successful, intelligent man
for the sin of not dating me. Oh,
he's whipping out the misogyny, guys.
I don't even know what to say.
Oh my god.
Wait, what
girl?
You're a [\h__\h] KP.
Is that too edgy? Like, I'm sorry, but
holy [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
KP has accused every guy who argues with
her of crushing on her. Well, Rachel, I
gota I'm telling you right now, you're
not my type. Um, so don't even [\h__\h]
go there.
Um,
I am I am Yeah. Oh, shoot. Gabe
Sh.
[Music]
Oh my god.
Uh yeah, you are a black hole woman, I
gotta say. Um and I'm saying this as
somebody that used to watch KP because
hi, I was in the um brony community.
Well, I wouldn't say I was in the brony
community. It was more that I've liked
My Little Pony since I was a kid because
I was a horse kid and
I was an animation student. So, when
those two interests aligned,
um, I got really excited to the point
that my teachers were teasing me for
being so excited about the stupid horse
show. And then it ended up being like a
huge phenomenon and changed
um the Flash
cartoon um
scene for basically ever. Uh, thank you
for the super chat. Shark jumping
walrus.
Um,
yeah. So, I I I
watched KP because I thought all of the
boys in the space were kind of cringe. I
think I watched a little bit of Saber,
too, when he was just um was just doing
the pony stuff. Um,
I didn't really like anybody else.
Um, I tried watching Lily a few times
back in the day, but I didn't like her
either.
Uh,
yeah.
So, I'm saying this as somebody that
used to watch KP that like you you're a
black hole. Um,
and it's like
I don't know, man. I don't know.
Uh,
some kids were not bullied enough in
grade school. I'll just say that.
To which I'd like to respond by saying,
"Stephen, I'm just not that into you."
The same rush,
>> oh boy.
>> Was used to paint over Emily's
accusations and intentions with even
less people speaking to Emily herself.
More can be learned about her
experiences in the video linked below.
Steven, however, was given Grace room to
respond. So, she's not commenting at all
about the allegations against Saber
Spark. She's like, I'm washing my hands
of that. If you want to know more about
that, go listen to the to Emu Emmy.
So, which is and and the thing is is
that like this is a huge part of the
controversy is you falsely accusing
Sabers Spark. That that's the that's the
issue. This is why everybody's upset.
Everything else is just like second
fiddle to your accusations against
Sabers Spark. Like I I don't really give
a [\h__\h] I mean like I'm I'm sure you
know like I have never spoken to DA
Games or Chris, but like I don't [\h__\h]
I'm sorry to be
a dick, but like I don't really care
about that. Um,
I care more about the fact that you like
tried to ruin this guy's career
out of spite.
And I know that you tried to ruin it out
of spite because you tried to do the
exact same thing to Anthony
right in front of me months beforehand.
She does. Oh, she does get into it. Oh,
I'm so excited. and direct personal
support from the same people claiming to
be an objective voice of reason
throughout the situation when gi
sometimes
the whole objective voice of reason
thing the objective voice of reason
doesn't agree with me therefore they're
not objective voice of reason maybe
you're just wrong that happens sometimes
sometimes people are wrong his own
testimony on the accusations leveled
against him his own lapses of memory are
not painted as proof of malicious lie
his own incorrect recollection of events
as proved by the screenshots he himself
provided are not painless proof of a
malicious lie.
>> I mean, you say you pulled away from her
for the next few months, but I mean cuz
I cuz I've seen your DMs with her.
>> Um, so you pul if you pulled away from
her I mean it wouldn't be for months. So
it was
>> not months I would say I'd say November.
No, I'm sorry. You're right. I'm I'm
getting my uh the increments wrong, but
it was I would say for the rest of
November. His own admission of trying to
force a woman to take a pregnancy test
against her will is not seen as a
violation of consent, privacy, and
bodily autonomy.
What?
KP, do you perhaps not know how a
pregnancy test works?
You don't like
Is it sexual assault to ask someone to
piss on a stick so that you can verify
if they're pregnant with your [\h__\h]
unborn child?
Oh my god.
Yep.
Asking a woman to take a pregnancy test
is completely bad if she's telling you
that she thinks she's pregnant. Yep.
Like, what do you think? Somebody's just
sticking it up her goo and being like,
"Let's see if there's a baby in there."
Like, that's not how that works. You
just pee on a stick and it tells you if
you're pregnant or not. That's not
Oh my god.
Sounds like the maternity of women who
don't like paternity tests.
He bought the test for her and is like,
"Can you take a pregnancy test?" Oh my
god.
Okay.
Um,
we're almost in October and October is
International Hating White People Month.
And I'm starting it off strong with uh
wanting to throw KP into an active
volcano.
>> But instead, as a horrible event, he was
made a victim of by the girl he had
targeted
>> into the convention on a Sunday. I
remember going over to her hotel being
like, I'm like, we have to get this
test. Like, I I I need to know the
answer before I head home just so I can
know what's going on. I got the
pregnancy test, came back, And I'm like,
"Please, can you take this?" And she
goes, "Okay." You know, cuz it was time
time's up. And she she's said, "Okay,
I'll do it." And she took it and it was
negative. And I remember after her after
afterwards, I was like almost dumbruck
with relief. At that point, I started to
form this opinion in my head where I'm
like, "Did she just baby scare me to
keep me in her life?" That was the
emotion surging through my head along
with relief. Admissions of being where
he was accused of being and when are not
painted as plausibility that what he is
accused of is true. Instead is painted
as proof that he's telling the truth and
the accused victim is lying for clout.
For objective coverage of what was
supposed to be a serious situation,
there seems to be a lot of sweeping for
Steven. Standards that myself and Emily
were and continue to be held to are not
standards that he needs to meet. So yes,
but you see that like you lied. So you
are going to be held to a different
standard because you provably lied.
and you've been making an ass out of
yourself for months. So, you are going
to be held to a different standard
because you are a [\h__\h] you are the
one that came out of nowhere and tried
to ruin this man's career acting like a
spiteful vindictive witch on social
media.
So, like, yes, you are being held to a
different standard. And Emmy is being
held to a different standard because she
has a history
of doing this [\h__\h] Oh my god. Okay.
Saber was held to a higher standard than
her.
I think that it's more that like people
aren't being nice to KP and so she's sad
now. Moving forward, how can we as the
online community do better? What changes
can we make to improve child safety or
our fandom spaces? What kind?
>> Okay, let's go back. Okay, let's go
back.
>> Continue to be held to are not standards
that he needs to meet. So, moving
forward, how can we as the online
community do better? What changes can we
make to improve child safety or our
fandom spaces? What kind of
conversations should we be having? How
about power dynamics and fandom spaces
and the people that abuse them? Creators
turning their fan bases into dating
pools? grooming behaviors passed off as
normal internet interactions. These were
the kinds of conversations I was
intending to spark with my last video.
This was my
Thank you for the super chat. It's Wes.
I love the impossible a lot. More like I
love false accusations a lot. Waka waka
waka. Yeah. Um,
KP, your video was about
Saber Spark is a big racist and he
rapist and he just utterly crushed this
tiny little
little little girl child that I will not
I'm not going to tell you she is, But
you need to trust me that this tiny
little girl, this tiny little woman who
is basically a child, um, she was a
20-year-old child, um, Saber Spark just
like [\h__\h] destroyed her and like
killed her with sex and then and you
guys are all like fine with that and
you're fine with them being in the
industry. I think we should all just
throw them into a well collectively and
if you don't do that, you're evil. Like
that's what your video was.
And it was not a conversation starter.
It was it was a witch hunt.
Oh my god. Okay. My intent. And with the
end of the video, I'd like to close off
with a note about accountability.
Throughout the whole ordeal, I have seen
a lot of people attributing my lack of
response to mean a lack of
accountability that I was avoiding. Your
lack of response is because Sabers Spark
is going to sue your ass. The
controversy and that I was trying to
erase or ignore it. Something I invite
the audience to think about.
girl. Didn't you delete the last 3 years
of tweets on your Twitter like this week
interesting is what accountability is,
what it looks like, and what it isn't.
Someone jumping to respond as soon as
possible or through as many avenues as
possible is not indicative of taking
accountability. Especially if that
response is to victimize/murder yourself
in the face of accusations and
criticism. you're still not taking
accountability and it's what like this
happened in May and it's like almost
October so let's see May June July
August September O it's like five months
later 6 months almost you're finally
taking accountability
quote unquote and it's not even
accountability you're just like guys I
was right and you're bullying me you
guys are bullying me even though I was
right with everything I did and said
maybe I shouldn't have made the joke
about the prince of Egypt, but I was
correct. I was I was correct, you guys.
I was so correct. You guys are the
[\h__\h] Um, that's what this is. True
accountability is stating whether or not
you did something on its face,
regardless of any intentions or effect,
and without excusing yourself or
attacking the accuser. Example, I made
the original video. It was bad, and I
understand that. jumping to dismiss
someone as cloud chasing and trying to
justify why.
Yeah, I I I
did.
I feel like I could make I could keep
make fun making fun of her and she would
still just say the exact same thing that
I'm making a joke about cuz I'm like
exaggerating
and then I press play again and that's
exactly what she says.
Oh. Oh my.
How old is this girl again?
Oh yes,
we're clout chasing after KP's clout.
Girl, what clout?
What clout? Look at this [\h__\h] dislike
ratio.
Oh, you can't see it behind my stupid
fat head. Um,
what clout,
dude?
That's like like I get those those
amount of views when I'm not playing a
stupid dumb video game that nobody wants
to see. Like that's what clout what
clout
what happened isn't the word they're
using is not accountability. It's
obuscation and defense. And you didn't
need to defend something that didn't
happen. Anyway, this was heavy. I'd like
to thank everyone who stuck it out this
far, as well as
a special thanks to my fans who allowed
me the space to respond before forming
an opinion about my intent.
>> In the meantime, I've tried to be
positive and I'm working on something
that is not YouTube adjacent. And maybe
I can share it with you someday. Maybe
not. We'll see. Anyway, this is my dog
Toby. He's a little man. He likes to
wear outfits. Decompress with him and
thanks for sticking around.
Wow.
[Laughter]
I don't even know what to say.
Oh my gosh. Okay. Um,
so my good friend, um, Anthony Gabagoul.
Oh, where is it? Here we go. Um, and he
of course like a [\h__\h] Rube
didn't scrub
his link,
you fool.
So, I have to do it myself like a
freaking peasant.
Scrub your links, people. Whenever you
see a link, there will be like like on
YouTube now, you'll get like this
question mark and then si equals and
then a string of numbers. Delete
everything from the question mark
afterwards because if you don't, you're
just basically giving people like your
tracking information.
So, just Yeah. Okay, so we're going to
be taking this is the op block. Um,
apparently there's some really pertinent
information at the 2 hours and 5 minutes
mark. So, we're going to like take a
little peeky poo pixie poo with that.
Okay, here we go.
>> Anyway, this was heavy. I'd like to
thank everyone who stuck it out this
far.
>> Please leave any additional concerns in
the comments and I will address them.
>> Okay,
>> let's check something, chat.
She has not responded to my comment
about the fact that I said this. While I
will not speak onto the DA game
situation, let's see what she's not
responded to yet, chat.
Namely, I find that first off uh that
you have bias cover the bias coverage uh
that you namely I find it off that you
call bias coverage when you spoke to the
individuals making quote said bias
coverage and you withheld information
that in my opinion was done so to make
you look like a victim of circumstance
and not a willing participant. You did
make baseless accusations towards Saber
Spark studying a quote polyamorous
parasocial relationship with fans with
no proof of that ever being shown. I
implore you to back it up. Furthermore,
you seemingly skip over the time you
pressured Emily to talk to save your own
career because of the backlash you were
receiving.
Lastly, it doesn't feel like you're
sorry for anything, but rather that it
went poorly.
>> Yep, that was my waffling over this
response behind the scenes and this just
ain't it. If you want to speak more,
feel free to reach out. And yes, I do
know that she was making this response.
Wait, hold on, though. Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on. Where are we?
Oh, here it is. It's still here.
Oh, look. Wait, hold on. Did I see?
No, I didn't. I thought I saw a wild
Anthony, but I did not.
Okay. I was wondering if she had hidden
it, but uh it is still there.
chat.
>> Let's listen to a little bit more and
then I have some exclusive content.
>> Exclusive as well as special thanks to
my fans who
>> Okay.
>> Why? Why did you bring
>> I'm not I'm never going to get mad at
someone.
>> Hold on.
>> It's Toby, I guess.
>> Why are the only good thing about this
video?
>> Why is the Why is the dog on the bus?
Let him be. Let him live. Why did you
put
>> I'm not I'm never going to get mad at
someone's pet doesn't know.
>> The pet
look at his lies. I love his eyes.
>> I love his eyes.
>> This video was dumb and bad and you
should have just been like, I'm going to
take my L. Ion got deleted. I was told
different things and that's clearly not
what happened.
>> I should have double checked. There's
just other ways you could have done
this. Should I comment on the video? is
just like not super hooked onto the
story, but this pissed me off so bad.
>> Um, so,
okay. Uh,
>> the JPEG looks so bad. It does. It
really does.
>> Uh,
uh, you know what? I got to chat.
>> Lazy. Ain't that the [\h__\h] truth?
>> Ain't that the [\h__\h] truth? Seeing
that from other bad apologies, you
should never put involve your pets.
>> I need to You know what I didn't do?
I didn't edit these and I probably
should have. Uh, blue Yo-kai. Blue
Yo-kai, I need you.
Okay.
>> Okay. Come on. I want to see this
exclusive content.
>> Uh, paint.
>> Reading.
>> You move.
>> Give me the exclusive content.
>> Exclusive content coming very soon.
>> Very soon.
>> Wise. This was before we found out who
Emily was. The interview was edited and
removed pauses and silence as revealing
the information that's been asked to be
public.
>> Also, I just want to point this out.
This was before we found out who Emily
Emu Emmy was and after the first
interview, the call with Ed's questions.
KP knew it was Emily the entire time.
And
>> what?
She withheld that information in
private.
I'm glad that we're having this
conversation because there's just it's
more so just to relieve any possibility.
Right. Because you know how past things
in the internet have been in regards to
stuff like this. Right.
>> Right. Right.
>> So, and also I just have a concern.
>> All right. Chat, before we be before we
go on,
enjoy unproatic people's dogs from Blue
Yo-kai.
A baby.
>> Look at the babies.
>> I want to see the babies.
>> Give me them.
>> Give me the content. I want to see the
content. Give it to me.
>> Get out with that.
>> Yeah, it's Yeah, it was at the time. It
was uh cuz it's lazy.
>> Is that like a yesified? Is that a
yesified um the the guy from the Yes,
that's awesome. I love it.
>> I'm guessing that this video isn't the
content.
>> I don't know. I don't watch movies
feelings. So for
>> I don't care about this. Sorry, lazy bed
head, but I don't I've seen this
already. I think
>> she believes
>> like I know. Yeah, not very
>> said, but we'll get there.
>> And I'm like, where have I keep seeing
this guy's face before production of the
bronies react stuff? And
>> what concern in the video? You guys were
friends and you [\h__\h] up the
friendship.
>> Oh, here it is. Here it is. Here it is.
Hold on. Here it is, guys. Here it is.
Here it is. Here it is.
>> Information. If you would like.
>> Hold on.
>> Let's go up to the beginning of this.
>> Oh my god.
I wish this was timestamped.
Anthony, this was not This is not a time
stamp.
>> I have gotten permission from Saber
Spark to shoot. You were like 10 minutes
off.
>> I'm killing you.
>> So, this is a person who is allegedly on
KP's team.
>> Oh boy. Oh boy. Oh boy.
>> I'm going to read this for you, chat,
because it seems like some people were
doing some damage control behind the
scenes.
>> Oh boy.
>> May 12th.
>> Yummy slop.
>> Dear Saber, I may realize this may come
off I realize that this may come off as
disingenuous, but I really hope this
email finds you well. My name is blank.
We have cut out that person's name
specifically cuz like they're not
they're not a part of this yada yada.
And I'm one of Rachel's/KP's
friends mods. And I contributed to some
parts of the aforementioned video about
you and DA Games. Recently, we were made
aware that the allegations against you
in that video are false and that person
who pretended to be a victim of yours
has tried to do this with multiple other
you
>> okay
>> YouTubers before. We all feel terrible
about this and wanted to reach out to to
you right away to discuss where
>> did this happen after or before? So,
it's May 12th. When did the video come
out?
Would was this like right after or right
before? When did the video initially
come out?
Hold on. Wait. What? Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on. Hold on. Okay. Multiple other
YouTube videos. When did the video come
out?
The week earlier. Okay. So, it was Okay.
I was like, did this come out?
Okay. So, it Okay, never mind. I was
like about to go down like a whole other
spiral. Okay, let's keep watching.
>> Go from here.
>> [\h__\h] Okay,
>> buddy.
>> Okay,
>> but still.
>> Oh, boy.
Would you be interested in scheduling a
call with me that to discuss this
properly? Rachel will not be in the call
because she genuinely does not have the
capacity to deal with this right now.
>> Go [\h__\h] yourself.
again. Uh, this is this is allegedly
someone on her team.
>> Yeah. Okay. Sure. Sure it is. Okay.
>> Uhhuh.
>> Allegedly.
>> And she generally does not have the
capacity to do this. And she's still
processing the new information. If you
would like to confirm, if you'd like her
to confirm to you that I am who I say I
am, I'm sure she'd be happy to confirm,
but leave the conversation about what
repair and accountability looks like to
me. I would be happy to schedule a
meeting over Zoom or Microsoft Teams,
but I can call over Discord as well.
Please let me know what works for you. I
suggest Zoom because Zoom automatically
notifies the user if the call is being
recorded so both of us can have peace of
mind that no one is being secretly
recorded.
I apologize for uh I I will apologize
properly in the call, but I can't
emphasize enough how sorry we are. We
want to make this right. whatever that
looks like to you. Thank you for the
time. Uh, thank you for taking the time
of your day to read this email, and I
hope to hear from you soon. Best that
person. Now, there's a follow-up email.
>> Oh, no. I believe the 17th of May,
saying, "Good afternoon, Saber. I hope
your weekend is off to a good start. I
just want to let you know that KP and I
have begun the process of making up a
follow-up video. We both value your
input. So, if you could find the time to
schedule a call with me, it would be
much appreciated. Please let me know if
you have any questions or concerns.
>> So, yes, chat.
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>> Wait, what's that? What? What? What's
that? KP wanted Saber to approve her
follow video so it would make her look
better.
>> Oh. Is is
>> God?
>> Is that what the this former person that
knows her is a legend?
>> Oh.
>> Huh.
Crazy chat.
Does that mean that all this fake
bravado is for nothing?
Does that mean that oh, Saber abused his
authority? He is way too much into me.
Oh, you don't understand Saber. Saber's
not a nice guy. And I don't care that he
may or may not be a victim of of
childhood essay. He defends Black
Griffin.
>> Oh my god. Okay.
>> You know, chat
sometimes
>> kind of blown away right now to be
honest.
>> Oh yeah. I had showed you these before.
Did
>> you? I know.
>> I don't know what to say.
And okay,
and to
I'm sorry, I need a second. And okay,
we're going back to the music for a
little bit.
and to then go on
to double and triple down
because
I
[Music]
because keep in KP was not silent during
this time. So from one corner of her
mouth, she was like, "Saber,
are we cool? Are we cool, Saber? Saber,
I need you. I need to know that you are
cool." From one side of her mouth and
out the other was like, "No, he really
is like a rapist, guys. He really really
is over and over and over again cuz
that's a story she's stuck with publicly
from one side of her mouth and out the
other side is
oh my god
[Music]
[Laughter]
that is bold. old.
Yeah, I can see her. She is such an
[\h__\h] Yeah,
[Music]
I think.
Okay.
[Music]
I think that what can happen.
[Music]
Okay.
[Music]
All right. Let's break this down.
As someone who also had a bit of a
YouTube kurfuffle
this year
[Music]
and who felt very unsure, let's give KP
Let's be Let's be like, let's try to put
ourselves in KP's shoes.
I think that she wanted this to be true
[Music]
because she didn't like this guy. So,
she wants it to be true because, oh,
well, well, that's just perfect. Of
course, he's like this.
And at the same time,
she has that that that little doubt in
the back of her head, but like what if
it isn't?
[Music]
I think that like
[Music]
there is a very very very small
percentage of shitty people that are
like knowingly and intentionally
malicious.
[Music]
Um, you know, I I don't think I'm going
to I'm going to say something that
sounds like more serious than it is, but
evil is very benol. You know, it's it's
not like this little little guy sitting
in his dark little cave going like, I'm
going to [\h__\h] up Saber Spark's life
forever and he didn't do anything. Like,
that didn't happen. Um,
what happened is that
allegedly Enmy had a sexual interaction
with Saber Spark. And because she
is not a very healthy
person, she had some hang-ups about it.
And over the years, those hang-ups
turned from I don't like sex to and I
didn't like having sex with this guy to
this guy raped me.
Um,
and like look, I get it. I'm ace and
I've had sex that I didn't enjoy, but it
doesn't make the people that I did it
with rapists. means that I'm bad at
communicating my boundaries and I was
doing things I thought I should do
instead of doing things that I actually
wanted to do. So like I've been there
and I know that those interactions sit
with you for a very long time. I also
have experienced essay before and those
are two very different experiences.
Um,
and I think that this interact Oh, thank
you for the super chat. Wow, KP just
flabbergasted a demon. Now, that is an
accomplishment on her part.
But yes, so I think I think
this is the story that over the years
Emu Annie told herself because she has
so many hang-ups about sex that that
it's like I don't want to be responsible
for this bad interaction that I've had.
So in my head that's what it is now. And
it even seems that KP was fanning the
flames to make it seem worse than it
really was because she was coaching that
um
script that EU Emmy wrote about this to
make it seem worse than it was.
And what I think happened on KP's part
is and and we we know this just from how
she talks about what happened between
her and Chris that she takes something
that while shitty and while kind of
weird
isn't
essay
into being
like this this thing that is so much
bigger than what it actually was. and
and you know it was creepy and you know
there was some rape culture and misogyny
element to it and
it's complicated.
But what happens is that like
these situations
get colored into a darker and darker
shade of gray
when they're usually morally ambigu
ambiguous or like clumsy. but ultimately
like not as bad as these people are
saying they were. And then if you take
the worst feelings that you felt about
this at your worst moment and then you
amplify that on a YouTube video and you
make it seem even worse, then it doesn't
even resemble the original event that
happened.
And I think that like what was happening
in KP's mind at this point was that
she was oscillating between that very
dark gray that she had kind of morphed
the situation into to the lighter gray
of like, okay, but maybe we can move
past this and maybe it doesn't have to
be a big deal. So I maybe I will talk to
Saber Spark about this and like it can
all we can all reach a level of
understanding and
what really happened
like it was somewhere in the middle or
more accurately was probably closer to
say but you know what I mean like she
was like swinging back and forth and
orbiting her actual opinion
um as it suited her. while she was
freaking the [\h__\h] out because she was
being threatened with a lawsuit.
Um,
[Music]
ultimately
it sounds like what happened between
Emu, Emmy, and Saber Spark was like a
very
private moment that was kind of awkward
and probably not the best sexual
experience either of them had because it
sounds like Saber Spark had some
discomfort with this situ. situation
himself, especially with the baby
trapping crap.
And this this moment that these two
shared as young people that were still,
you know, learning the ins and outs of
intimate relationships,
you know, most of us have the privilege
of that never going public, you know.
Um, I'm so glad that my first
experiences with intimacy are things
that nobody's ever going to know. Thank
God. But unfortunately, and you know,
maybe I'm wrong. Maybe like Saber
Spark's been,
you know, pounding it for years before
this happened. But it sounded like from
the way both Emmy and Saber have spoken
about it that it was like
they didn't neither of them had a lot of
experience up until that point. Um, and
they were trying their best and it just
was kind of awkward. Uh,
and I wish that that could have remained
a private moment um, instead of it being
paraded around the internet
for all to see. And then ultimately for
someone like I love Kim Possible a lot,
Rachel
to try and destroy his career.
Um
because he wouldn't be her obedient
little pet or whatever,
you know.
[Music]
Yeah, nobody needs to know the sec about
the sex lives of micro celebrities or
celebrities in general. It's like
nobody's business. Um
[Music]
yeah, sounds like Saber Spark had his
own worries, too, that people would walk
in on them, that he was like too nervous
to perform.
Yeah. I mean,
I don't know. Saber Spark reminds me a
lot of my ex. my good ex.
And I think about and you know like he
also had
some issues with communication and
nervousness. And
I I think of how I would feel if he ever
was dragged through the mud the way that
Saber Spark is being dragged through the
mud now.
And it really hurts my feelings
actually. Um,
thank you for the super chat, Yokai
lover. Just got back from dinner. What
I'd miss. Oh, we're just talking now.
We're just chatting.
Um, not sure how long you've been gone.
But like, you know, my ex is a bigger
guy. Uh, bigger than I am. Um, a little
bit older. Um,
and because of the way I look, he's been
he he's been mistaken as my parent
before, which is really embarrassing,
even though he's only like a year and a
half older than I am. And we started
dating when I was, I think, 25 or 26 and
he was 27.
So, we were we were both adults. But
I think of like
I don't know
[Music]
like I this is tends to be how I process
this is I like project it on to the
closest experience that I've had or the
closest people I've had to this
situation. But like, yeah. No, my ex is
very similar to Saber Spark in looks and
personality and like awkward, but in
like a charming way. And I think about
like what it would be like to hear
somebody come forward and accuse him of
those things cuz I'm still friends with
this guy. And and I I think of how hurt
he would be and how upset I would be as
his friend. And it just
I I could not imagine doing that to
another person,
you know. Um
like honestly, how dare you?
[Music]
We're going back to this again.
Um,
ultimately
the we we need to stop with this idea
that we're going to find the next big
bad guy to take down and remove from the
internet um to the sounds of trumpets uh
signaling our victory. It's not a
healthy way to go about it. And
eventually
this is going to happen.
you are going you are going to crash and
burn and you are going to hurt an
innocent man or woman or whatever's
life. Um,
even if
we all realize that, oh, Saber Spark did
did nothing wrong, this legacy and that
little smidge of doubt in everybody's
mind is going to be there forever. And
that's not fair. Uh, not only that, but
you've made it so much harder for actual
victims to come forward.
Um,
[Music]
and real predators are going to take
advantage of that.
[Music]
Yeah, there's some people that just keep
coming back over and over and over and
over again. And
[Music]
the thing is is that Saber Spark was
chosen. Didn't work this time because
he's so beloved. Because he has that
charisma. Saber Spark was chosen. And
the language used
he was bigger than me. He had like he
weighed so much more than me and he like
making
that part made me so mad is that you're
you that using everybody's like
I'm going to I'm going to send myself
into a rage. But you you but like it was
so it felt so calculated, you know,
using everything that they could to make
Sabers Spark look like like this like
this ravenous dog and Emmy as like this
poor pathetic little frail victim. And
like hearing some of that I just oh god
the rage I felt cannot communicate it.
Yeah, there was Yep. There was body
shaming going on there.
[Music]
What connection did you make spaghetti?
[Music]
I'm curious.
>> Remember that time that Lily called me a
pedophile just because she didn't like
you? I do remember that. I do remember
that. That was that was insane.
And she admitted to it, too. Like, if
you're going
Like I have Yeah. Birds of a feather.
Yeah. Well, they did used to be friends.
[Music]
And the thing is, and this has happened
to me a couple times in the past few
months by people that don't like me
where they really want people to know
that they're punishing me because they
don't like me and that's the reason
they're making those accusations. that
they will just brag about it because I
mostly ignore them. And Lily did the
same thing when she accused me is that
she's like, "Oh, I know he's not. I just
think that we should spread that
information." And it's like that doesn't
if you brag about it, it's thought
doesn't work. It doesn't work.
but they're so
addicted to the feeling and they want
and they and they they are so eager to
brag about it that they'll just admit it
out loud.
Um,
so yeah, it does not surprise me that
these two were friends for a very long
time.
of your
[Music]
No, he she didn't need to cuz you're a
man, so she could accuse you of misogyny
and transphobia,
but she couldn't really do that with me
since I'm trans. Um,
so she just went, you know, she just
came right out with the Yeah.
[Music]
Anyhow,
[Music]
yeah, Chris's joke is [\h__\h] up, but KP
acting like it's something that actually
happened is so deranged.
Yeah. Um,
yeah.
I think the reason that people like Lily
and like some other recent people that
have started coming after me are using
that one is because they don't have
anything else on me.
[Music]
Like, they don't they don't have
anything else.
I'm not perfect, but I've, you know,
I've never done anything that would
warrant getting harassed online, so they
have to go for the for the worst.
Anyway, um
[Music]
Oh, hello, Hatto.
Haven't seen you around in a while.
[Music]
a heart. By the way, um I know that like
I think that you've h been having like a
like I I've just heard on the grapevine
that you're kind of disconnected from
like a lot of people that from the
community
perhaps maybe I got my information
wrong. Um, if you want to hit me up on
like Tumblr or something,
um,
I'm sure you have your own spaces, but
like if you want to talk or anything,
and it doesn't have to be like a it
doesn't have to be like for public or or
video. I've just been trying to reach
out to people that
it seems to me have been unfairly chased
out of certain communities recently.
Um,
if I'm got the wrong me wrong impression
on that, like ignore me. Um, but if you
want to uh reach out reach out to me on
Tumblr or something or that's the one I
use the most, but I also have Blue Sky.
Um,
[Music]
my Discord's pretty chill. I'll probably
I could I wouldn't mind inviting you to
that anyway. Um,
I think that's that's it. I was a little
bit considering I was okay, I'll be
honest with you. I was kind of
considering taking a look
at um the Star Trek Voyager video that
Lily Orchard did, but
I haven't watched Voyager in a long
time, and apparently it's been copyright
claimed, so never mind.
Um, so I think
that we're going to tie it up for now.
I'll make the images that I was using
like this one and the chart uh available
on my Tumblr uh which is linked in the
description down below.
[Music]
Yeah, the Voyager vid. I don't really I
don't like watching her videos is the
thing. Uh, but I do like Star Trek. I
just haven't watched Voyager in a few
years, so I think I probably
want to. Yeah, I might not, though. I
don't think it's worth the effort.
Uh, but anyway, um, I think I think that
that'll be everything tonight. So,
shorter stream.
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