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Disclaimer three, this video should only
be viewed by those 18 or older. We talk

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be viewed by those 18 or older. We talk
 

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be viewed by those 18 or older. We talk
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about some pretty serious subject matter
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these discussions. What you are about to

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these discussions. What you are about to
 

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these discussions. What you are about to
see is an interview with Emily Jones.

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see is an interview with Emily Jones.
 

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see is an interview with Emily Jones.
also known as Emu Emmy, Sabers Sparks

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also known as Emu Emmy, Sabers Sparks
 

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also known as Emu Emmy, Sabers Sparks
accuser. Now, I want to be extremely

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accuser. Now, I want to be extremely
 

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accuser. Now, I want to be extremely
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clear and upfront about the contents of
 

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clear and upfront about the contents of
this particular interview. Emily Jones

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this particular interview. Emily Jones
 

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this particular interview. Emily Jones
is a person who has had a controversial

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is a person who has had a controversial
 

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is a person who has had a controversial
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history on the platform, and so we
 

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history on the platform, and so we
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offered her an opportunity to speak on
 

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offered her an opportunity to speak on
her own controversies to the wider

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her own controversies to the wider
 

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her own controversies to the wider
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public. The crux of this interview is
 

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public. The crux of this interview is
her addressing her own controversies.

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I believe that Emily Jones should have

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I believe that Emily Jones should have
 

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I believe that Emily Jones should have
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the right to talk about her own
 

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the right to talk about her own
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controversies and essentially establish
 

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controversies and essentially establish
her own character as her character is

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her own character as her character is
 

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her own character as her character is
tangentially related to the matters at

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tangentially related to the matters at
 

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tangentially related to the matters at
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hand. I also want to address something
 

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hand. I also want to address something
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in particular. Most people who have been
 

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in particular. Most people who have been
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introduced to the Emily Jones lore seem
 

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introduced to the Emily Jones lore seem
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to have been introduced via one
 

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to have been introduced via one
particular documentary. This one right

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particular documentary. This one right
 

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particular documentary. This one right
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here. The Google document trying to
 

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here. The Google document trying to
unmask Emily brought it up. And it's

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unmask Emily brought it up. And it's
 

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unmask Emily brought it up. And it's
what both KP and my team did find first.

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what both KP and my team did find first.
 

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what both KP and my team did find first.
Whatever you believe about Emily Jones,

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Whatever you believe about Emily Jones,
 

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Whatever you believe about Emily Jones,
whatever she says, this documentary is

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whatever she says, this documentary is
 

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whatever she says, this documentary is
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particularly bad and particularly biased
 

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particularly bad and particularly biased
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and should not be used as a resource.
 

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and should not be used as a resource.
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your own due diligence and not taking
 

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your own due diligence and not taking
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anything anyone says as immediate fact.
 

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anything anyone says as immediate fact.
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look it up using more reputable sources.
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This video will not be censored in any
 

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This video will not be censored in any
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regards. As a disclaimer, the opinions
 

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regards. As a disclaimer, the opinions
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of Emily Jones are her own. They should
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not be seen as reflective of me or the
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investigation team towards anyone, not
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just Saber Spark. I will at least be
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adding context via editing, but I am
 

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adding context via editing, but I am
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cutting nothing out. Timestamps will be
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added in the description down below if
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you want Emily's statement on any
 

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you want Emily's statement on any
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particular controversy stuff. Everyone's
 

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particular controversy stuff. Everyone's
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okay with this being recorded and
 

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okay with this being recorded and
published. I'm totally cool with that. I

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published. I'm totally cool with that. I
 

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published. I'm totally cool with that. I
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consent. Okay. I'm all good. I consent
 

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consent. Okay. I'm all good. I consent
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to that as well.
 

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to that as well.
I am a consenting adult. I uh

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I am a consenting adult. I uh
 

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I am a consenting adult. I uh
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All right. I started my recording. So
 

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All right. I started my recording. So
now no one knows that we all consented.

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now no one knows that we all consented.
 

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now no one knows that we all consented.
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I also started my recording after we all
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consented. Damn. We're going to have to
 

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consented. Damn. We're going to have to
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consent again.
 

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consent again.
I have been recording. I'm joking. It's

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I have been recording. I'm joking. It's
 

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I have been recording. I'm joking. It's
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fine. All right.
So, enter you you said you wanted me to

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So, enter you you said you wanted me to
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try to spearhead things or do you want
 

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try to spearhead things or do you want
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to like answer like ask your personal
 

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to like answer like ask your personal
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questions or what? Um, I think uh I am
 

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questions or what? Um, I think uh I am
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not good at leading interviews. That's
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why I'm here cuz I've done this before.
 

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why I'm here cuz I've done this before.
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get confused, we should all start with
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like introductions. Uh, people, this is
 

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like introductions. Uh, people, this is
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going to be on my channel so people know
 

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going to be on my channel so people know
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who I am.
 

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who I am.
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Uh, who are you guys?
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Do we just start at a semicircle or
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what? Start at the front end and then
 

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what? Start at the front end and then
the back or whatever. Uh, lazy, who are

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the back or whatever. Uh, lazy, who are
 

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the back or whatever. Uh, lazy, who are
you? I am a lazy bed head. I make things

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you? I am a lazy bed head. I make things
 

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you? I am a lazy bed head. I make things
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on the internet and I do interviews with
 

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on the internet and I do interviews with
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people on the internet and I will be
 

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people on the internet and I will be
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helping in this interview today.
 

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helping in this interview today.
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Uh, and Phineas, who are you? I am the
one Phineas. I have been looking into

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one Phineas. I have been looking into
 

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one Phineas. I have been looking into
the uh this you this little universe

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the uh this you this little universe
 

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the uh this you this little universe
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many months.
Yes. Uh these two have been helping me

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investigation people are calling it. Uh
they're not the only people but these

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they're not the only people but these
 

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they're not the only people but these
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have been the two people who have been
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uh talking to me and the accuser. and
 

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uh talking to me and the accuser. and
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let's get your introduction.
 

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let's get your introduction.
My name my name is Emmy Jones or MU and

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My name my name is Emmy Jones or MU and
 

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My name my name is Emmy Jones or MU and
uh yeah I I do music and voice over and

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uh yeah I I do music and voice over and
 

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uh yeah I I do music and voice over and
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So Emily, how long have you actually

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So Emily, how long have you actually
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been doing like content on the internet?
 

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been doing like content on the internet?
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Uh, technically right after I graduated
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high school, but it was like terrible
 

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high school, but it was like terrible
YouTube cos I made like with my parents'

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YouTube cos I made like with my parents'
 

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YouTube cos I made like with my parents'
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iMac computer and it was like a a
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terrible like trash can microphone. I
 

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terrible like trash can microphone. I
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wouldn't even be embarrassed. I still
edit everything on an iPhone. So, don't

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edit everything on an iPhone. So, don't
 

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edit everything on an iPhone. So, don't
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even be worried about it. It's very It's
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good content though. Thank
 

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good content though. Thank
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you. It's just funny to see people's
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reactions to that sometimes cuz they are
 

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reactions to that sometimes cuz they are
like, "What are you [\h__\h] crazy?" And

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like, "What are you [\h__\h] crazy?" And
 

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like, "What are you [\h__\h] crazy?" And
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I'm like, "Yeah, I am a little
 

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I'm like, "Yeah, I am a little
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bit. It's hard." Yeah, that's that is
 

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bit. It's hard." Yeah, that's that is
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kind of insane to edit everything on an
 

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kind of insane to edit everything on an
iPhone. I just look, I'm poor, so this

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iPhone. I just look, I'm poor, so this
 

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iPhone. I just look, I'm poor, so this
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just kind of works out for
 

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just kind of works out for
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me. I know that doesn't sound poor.
 

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me. I know that doesn't sound poor.
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Having an iPhone doesn't sound like a
 

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Having an iPhone doesn't sound like a
poor person thing, but it's an older

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poor person thing, but it's an older
 

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poor person thing, but it's an older
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generation. If that makes it any worse
 

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generation. If that makes it any worse
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for anybody else, I just can't imagine
 

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for anybody else, I just can't imagine
the perception for your video for your

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the perception for your video for your
 

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the perception for your video for your
videos, you know? It's like

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videos, you know? It's like
 

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videos, you know? It's like
it's it's just a lot of sitting in my

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it's it's just a lot of sitting in my
 

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it's it's just a lot of sitting in my
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bed and just kind of like finger
 

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bed and just kind of like finger
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fingering my face phone for a while
 

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fingering my face phone for a while
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until it's done. Okay. But in case
 

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until it's done. Okay. But in case
anyone is concerned, I I'm not the one

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anyone is concerned, I I'm not the one
 

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anyone is concerned, I I'm not the one
making this video. Just double checking

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making this video. Just double checking
 

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making this video. Just double checking
for everyone's aware. I won't be I won't

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for everyone's aware. I won't be I won't
 

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for everyone's aware. I won't be I won't
be fun this video on my phone today.

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be fun this video on my phone today.
 

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be fun this video on my phone today.
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Yeah, that will be my job. And for the
final obligatory uh question, Emily, you

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final obligatory uh question, Emily, you
 

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final obligatory uh question, Emily, you
you are coming forward out of anonymity

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you are coming forward out of anonymity
 

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you are coming forward out of anonymity
of your own free will. Correct. I am.

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of your own free will. Correct. I am.
 

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of your own free will. Correct. I am.
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Yes. Okay. Those are the obligatory
 

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Yes. Okay. Those are the obligatory
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questions. Lazy, you may begin. So,
 

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questions. Lazy, you may begin. So,
okay. I think we should start by just

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okay. I think we should start by just
 

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okay. I think we should start by just
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going. I will also say to the audience
 

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going. I will also say to the audience
who is listening, this is not exactly

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who is listening, this is not exactly
 

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who is listening, this is not exactly
the first time that we had this

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the first time that we had this
 

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the first time that we had this
conversation. No, it was just important

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conversation. No, it was just important
 

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conversation. No, it was just important
that we had it like for the record so

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that we had it like for the record so
 

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that we had it like for the record so
that if anyone wants to ask about it,

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that if anyone wants to ask about it,
 

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that if anyone wants to ask about it,
reference this interview here, right?

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reference this interview here, right?
 

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reference this interview here, right?
Yeah. So, let's start at the very

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Yeah. So, let's start at the very
 

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Yeah. So, let's start at the very
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beginning. Uh, at least the beginning of
 

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beginning. Uh, at least the beginning of
your whole YouTube career. I would love

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your whole YouTube career. I would love
 

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your whole YouTube career. I would love
to start. Um, so Emu is a name on the

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to start. Um, so Emu is a name on the
 

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to start. Um, so Emu is a name on the
internet that, uh, people in both the

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internet that, uh, people in both the
 

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internet that, uh, people in both the
MLP community and the Sonic community

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MLP community and the Sonic community
 

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MLP community and the Sonic community
know fairly well. um for both good

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know fairly well. um for both good
 

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know fairly well. um for both good
things, most of it being Sonic and Tales

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things, most of it being Sonic and Tales
 

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things, most of it being Sonic and Tales
R, which was a fan-made radio show that

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R, which was a fan-made radio show that
 

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R, which was a fan-made radio show that
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actually was in collaborations with uh
 

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actually was in collaborations with uh
people over at Sega, aka like Ryan

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people over at Sega, aka like Ryan
 

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people over at Sega, aka like Ryan
Drummond, Mike Pock, voice actors and

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Drummond, Mike Pock, voice actors and
 

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Drummond, Mike Pock, voice actors and
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such. Um, and a a lot of people, I think
 

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such. Um, and a a lot of people, I think
it's mostly just like people on Reddit,

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it's mostly just like people on Reddit,
 

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it's mostly just like people on Reddit,
Kiwi Farm, the gossip sites, um, have

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Kiwi Farm, the gossip sites, um, have
 

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Kiwi Farm, the gossip sites, um, have
painted a not so great image of your

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painted a not so great image of your
 

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painted a not so great image of your
character. Um, and for our

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character. Um, and for our
 

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character. Um, and for our
investigation, that's not something we

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investigation, that's not something we
 

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investigation, that's not something we
can just ignore because as of recently,

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can just ignore because as of recently,
 

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can just ignore because as of recently,
as of like May 7th, I say recently, it's

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as of like May 7th, I say recently, it's
 

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as of like May 7th, I say recently, it's
a couple weeks ago. Uh, Casey Fist kind

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a couple weeks ago. Uh, Casey Fist kind
 

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a couple weeks ago. Uh, Casey Fist kind
of brought that up as a reason against

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of brought that up as a reason against
 

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of brought that up as a reason against
you not to even believe you. Um, but I

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you not to even believe you. Um, but I
 

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you not to even believe you. Um, but I
think it's only fair for the sake of

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think it's only fair for the sake of
 

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think it's only fair for the sake of
journalistic integrity that we get your

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journalistic integrity that we get your
 

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journalistic integrity that we get your
side on that because if every if all of

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side on that because if every if all of
 

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side on that because if every if all of
this is just either something that has

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this is just either something that has
 

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this is just either something that has
been, you know, taken out of context, I

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been, you know, taken out of context, I
 

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been, you know, taken out of context, I
feel like the full context should be

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feel like the full context should be
 

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feel like the full context should be
available for people to have in front of

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available for people to have in front of
 

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available for people to have in front of
them so they can reference and make and

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them so they can reference and make and
 

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them so they can reference and make and
draw their own conclusions. So, let's

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draw their own conclusions. So, let's
 

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draw their own conclusions. So, let's
start with what you are most well known

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start with what you are most well known
 

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start with what you are most well known
for. And that's gross to say, but that's

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for. And that's gross to say, but that's
 

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for. And that's gross to say, but that's
that's what people kind of point to your

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that's what people kind of point to your
 

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that's what people kind of point to your
big number one thing. Um, Ryan Drummond.

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big number one thing. Um, Ryan Drummond.
 

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big number one thing. Um, Ryan Drummond.
Drummond. I don't know how to Yeah,

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Drummond. I don't know how to Yeah,
 

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Drummond. I don't know how to Yeah,
Drummond. Drummond. So, you have been

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Drummond. Drummond. So, you have been
 

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Drummond. Drummond. So, you have been
friends with Ryan for a bit. You guys

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friends with Ryan for a bit. You guys
 

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friends with Ryan for a bit. You guys
worked on Sonic and Tales are together.

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worked on Sonic and Tales are together.
 

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worked on Sonic and Tales are together.
And around 2016, uh, you guys had some

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And around 2016, uh, you guys had some
 

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And around 2016, uh, you guys had some
sort of a relationship. Um, because Ryan

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sort of a relationship. Um, because Ryan
 

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sort of a relationship. Um, because Ryan
was once previously married that people

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was once previously married that people
 

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was once previously married that people
have accused you or at least accused the

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have accused you or at least accused the
 

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have accused you or at least accused the
both of you because this is two-p partyy

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both of you because this is two-p partyy
 

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both of you because this is two-p partyy
thing. um that you guys were in some

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thing. um that you guys were in some
 

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thing. um that you guys were in some
sort of affair that ended his

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sort of affair that ended his
 

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sort of affair that ended his
relationship. From your perspective,

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relationship. From your perspective,
 

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relationship. From your perspective,
right, what was your relationship with

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right, what was your relationship with
 

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right, what was your relationship with
Ryan Drummond?

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We did not have an affair. Absolutely

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We did not have an affair. Absolutely
 

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We did not have an affair. Absolutely
not. Um by the time that I even became

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not. Um by the time that I even became
 

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not. Um by the time that I even became
friends with Brian, he was already

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friends with Brian, he was already
 

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friends with Brian, he was already
working on splitting up with this

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working on splitting up with this
 

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working on splitting up with this
person. So, we were friends for a little

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person. So, we were friends for a little
 

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person. So, we were friends for a little
while. He began his separation process.

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while. He began his separation process.
 

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while. He began his separation process.
It we even got to a point where they

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It we even got to a point where they
 

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It we even got to a point where they
were living in different homes. Um and

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were living in different homes. Um and
 

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were living in different homes. Um and
then later on we began to date and we

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then later on we began to date and we
 

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then later on we began to date and we
dated for about six or seven months uh

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dated for about six or seven months uh
 

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dated for about six or seven months uh
during that process of them completely

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during that process of them completely
 

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during that process of them completely
separated and working on their divorce

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separated and working on their divorce
 

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separated and working on their divorce
because they do have two kids. One of

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because they do have two kids. One of
 

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because they do have two kids. One of
them is special needs. So divorce for

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them is special needs. So divorce for
 

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them is special needs. So divorce for
people with kids it takes a lot of time.

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people with kids it takes a lot of time.
 

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people with kids it takes a lot of time.
Mhm. So you when you started like um

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Mhm. So you when you started like um
 

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Mhm. So you when you started like um
getting to know Ryan and having him on

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getting to know Ryan and having him on
 

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getting to know Ryan and having him on
Sonic and Tales R, he was already within

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Sonic and Tales R, he was already within
 

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Sonic and Tales R, he was already within
that process of getting divorced.

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that process of getting divorced.
 

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that process of getting divorced.
Well, actually by the time Sonic and

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Well, actually by the time Sonic and
Tales R was a thing, it was already at

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Tales R was a thing, it was already at
 

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Tales R was a thing, it was already at
that point finalized. So that was done.

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that point finalized. So that was done.
 

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that point finalized. So that was done.
The our relationship was already over

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The our relationship was already over
 

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The our relationship was already over
because we were together only for like I

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because we were together only for like I
 

449
00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,910
because we were together only for like I
said like six or seven months. So Sonic

450
00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:23,920
said like six or seven months. So Sonic
 

451
00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,550
said like six or seven months. So Sonic
and Tails are started

452
00:09:26,550 --> 00:09:26,560
and Tails are started
 

453
00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:28,150
and Tails are started
gosh I think I think it was the

454
00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:28,160
gosh I think I think it was the
 

455
00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,590
gosh I think I think it was the
beginning of 2020. So by that point uh

456
00:09:31,590 --> 00:09:31,600
beginning of 2020. So by that point uh
 

457
00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,110
beginning of 2020. So by that point uh
he like our relationship was already

458
00:09:33,110 --> 00:09:33,120
he like our relationship was already
 

459
00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,230
he like our relationship was already
over. His divorce was finalized and I

460
00:09:36,230 --> 00:09:36,240
over. His divorce was finalized and I
 

461
00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,389
over. His divorce was finalized and I
had moved out to Burbank and around that

462
00:09:38,389 --> 00:09:38,399
had moved out to Burbank and around that
 

463
00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:41,110
had moved out to Burbank and around that
point actually I started dating uh my

464
00:09:41,110 --> 00:09:41,120
point actually I started dating uh my
 

465
00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,269
point actually I started dating uh my
current boyfriend. Okay. Was there any

466
00:09:43,269 --> 00:09:43,279
current boyfriend. Okay. Was there any
 

467
00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:44,870
current boyfriend. Okay. Was there any
particular reason why your guys'

468
00:09:44,870 --> 00:09:44,880
particular reason why your guys'
 

469
00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,470
particular reason why your guys'
relationship didn't work out? Was it

470
00:09:46,470 --> 00:09:46,480
relationship didn't work out? Was it
 

471
00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,870
relationship didn't work out? Was it
just like a a weird thing with his

472
00:09:48,870 --> 00:09:48,880
just like a a weird thing with his
 

473
00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,949
just like a a weird thing with his
divorce or just it you guys were just

474
00:09:50,949 --> 00:09:50,959
divorce or just it you guys were just
 

475
00:09:50,959 --> 00:09:52,870
divorce or just it you guys were just
too different or

476
00:09:52,870 --> 00:09:52,880
too different or
 

477
00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,590
too different or
it it's just honestly it was because he

478
00:09:55,590 --> 00:09:55,600
it it's just honestly it was because he
 

479
00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,070
it it's just honestly it was because he
needed to remain like up in that like

480
00:09:58,070 --> 00:09:58,080
needed to remain like up in that like
 

481
00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,590
needed to remain like up in that like
San Francisco Bay area um because of his

482
00:10:01,590 --> 00:10:01,600
San Francisco Bay area um because of his
 

483
00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,550
San Francisco Bay area um because of his
kids you know because of his you know

484
00:10:04,550 --> 00:10:04,560
kids you know because of his you know
 

485
00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:06,550
kids you know because of his you know
his previous relationship and they

486
00:10:06,550 --> 00:10:06,560
his previous relationship and they
 

487
00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:08,710
his previous relationship and they
obviously both deserve to have their

488
00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:08,720
obviously both deserve to have their
 

489
00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,190
obviously both deserve to have their
kids in their life and for me I have my

490
00:10:11,190 --> 00:10:11,200
kids in their life and for me I have my
 

491
00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,750
kids in their life and for me I have my
own kid and that's just not where we

492
00:10:13,750 --> 00:10:13,760
own kid and that's just not where we
 

493
00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,269
own kid and that's just not where we
wanted to be. We did not want to be up

494
00:10:15,269 --> 00:10:15,279
wanted to be. We did not want to be up
 

495
00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:17,670
wanted to be. We did not want to be up
there. We wanted to be in Los Angeles.

496
00:10:17,670 --> 00:10:17,680
there. We wanted to be in Los Angeles.
 

497
00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:20,069
there. We wanted to be in Los Angeles.
So, that was a choice that we both made.

498
00:10:20,069 --> 00:10:20,079
So, that was a choice that we both made.
 

499
00:10:20,079 --> 00:10:22,230
So, that was a choice that we both made.
Uh, it was totally like amicable.

500
00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:22,240
Uh, it was totally like amicable.
 

501
00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,430
Uh, it was totally like amicable.
Everything was cool and we're still

502
00:10:23,430 --> 00:10:23,440
Everything was cool and we're still
 

503
00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,990
Everything was cool and we're still
friends because of that. Even to this

504
00:10:25,990 --> 00:10:26,000
friends because of that. Even to this
 

505
00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,750
friends because of that. Even to this
day, do you guys still regularly chat

506
00:10:27,750 --> 00:10:27,760
day, do you guys still regularly chat
 

507
00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,470
day, do you guys still regularly chat
and everything or? Mhm. Yeah, we're

508
00:10:30,470 --> 00:10:30,480
and everything or? Mhm. Yeah, we're
 

509
00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,790
and everything or? Mhm. Yeah, we're
still friends to this day. So, how did

510
00:10:32,790 --> 00:10:32,800
still friends to this day. So, how did
 

511
00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,550
still friends to this day. So, how did
the internet go about uh kind of

512
00:10:34,550 --> 00:10:34,560
the internet go about uh kind of
 

513
00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:36,069
the internet go about uh kind of
figuring that out that this was

514
00:10:36,069 --> 00:10:36,079
figuring that out that this was
 

515
00:10:36,079 --> 00:10:38,150
figuring that out that this was
something that happened between you and

516
00:10:38,150 --> 00:10:38,160
something that happened between you and
 

517
00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,310
something that happened between you and
Ryan?

518
00:10:41,310 --> 00:10:41,320

 

519
00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:47,990

Yeah. So, I um Oh, man. So, I put my

520
00:10:47,990 --> 00:10:48,000
Yeah. So, I um Oh, man. So, I put my
 

521
00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,550
Yeah. So, I um Oh, man. So, I put my
trust in a few of the wrong people by

522
00:10:50,550 --> 00:10:50,560
trust in a few of the wrong people by
 

523
00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:53,190
trust in a few of the wrong people by
letting them know there was like a a

524
00:10:53,190 --> 00:10:53,200
letting them know there was like a a
 

525
00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,590
letting them know there was like a a
private account that I'd had where, you

526
00:10:55,590 --> 00:10:55,600
private account that I'd had where, you
 

527
00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,430
private account that I'd had where, you
know, I would talk about I would talk

528
00:10:57,430 --> 00:10:57,440
know, I would talk about I would talk
 

529
00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:58,470
know, I would talk about I would talk
about a lot of things that were

530
00:10:58,470 --> 00:10:58,480
about a lot of things that were
 

531
00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,310
about a lot of things that were
personal. I would talk about things that

532
00:11:00,310 --> 00:11:00,320
personal. I would talk about things that
 

533
00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,069
personal. I would talk about things that
I had going on at home. I would talk

534
00:11:02,069 --> 00:11:02,079
I had going on at home. I would talk
 

535
00:11:02,079 --> 00:11:05,030
I had going on at home. I would talk
about, you know, just my own personal

536
00:11:05,030 --> 00:11:05,040
about, you know, just my own personal
 

537
00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,790
about, you know, just my own personal
stuff that I had dealing, you know, I

538
00:11:06,790 --> 00:11:06,800
stuff that I had dealing, you know, I
 

539
00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,190
stuff that I had dealing, you know, I
was going through like, you know,

540
00:11:09,190 --> 00:11:09,200
was going through like, you know,
 

541
00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,110
was going through like, you know,
therapy and and stuff like that. And

542
00:11:11,110 --> 00:11:11,120
therapy and and stuff like that. And
 

543
00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,470
therapy and and stuff like that. And
also I would share about uh that type of

544
00:11:14,470 --> 00:11:14,480
also I would share about uh that type of
 

545
00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,470
also I would share about uh that type of
stuff too and I would talk about the

546
00:11:16,470 --> 00:11:16,480
stuff too and I would talk about the
 

547
00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,509
stuff too and I would talk about the
relationship there. Um there was a time

548
00:11:19,509 --> 00:11:19,519
relationship there. Um there was a time
 

549
00:11:19,519 --> 00:11:22,310
relationship there. Um there was a time
where we had visited each other and

550
00:11:22,310 --> 00:11:22,320
where we had visited each other and
 

551
00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,630
where we had visited each other and
during that time uh I was talking about

552
00:11:24,630 --> 00:11:24,640
during that time uh I was talking about
 

553
00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,630
during that time uh I was talking about
it on that private account and it was

554
00:11:27,630 --> 00:11:27,640
it on that private account and it was
 

555
00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,150
it on that private account and it was
screenshotted by one of the people who

556
00:11:30,150 --> 00:11:30,160
screenshotted by one of the people who
 

557
00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,430
screenshotted by one of the people who
had access to it and I was unaware of

558
00:11:33,430 --> 00:11:33,440
had access to it and I was unaware of
 

559
00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,990
had access to it and I was unaware of
this at this time and it would later

560
00:11:35,990 --> 00:11:36,000
this at this time and it would later
 

561
00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,389
this at this time and it would later
start showing up in different places.

562
00:11:38,389 --> 00:11:38,399
start showing up in different places.
 

563
00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:41,829
start showing up in different places.
Um, it had originally showed up on this

564
00:11:41,829 --> 00:11:41,839
Um, it had originally showed up on this
 

565
00:11:41,839 --> 00:11:43,670
Um, it had originally showed up on this
person, her name is Lizzy. Uh, it showed

566
00:11:43,670 --> 00:11:43,680
person, her name is Lizzy. Uh, it showed
 

567
00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:46,310
person, her name is Lizzy. Uh, it showed
up originally on her profile um because

568
00:11:46,310 --> 00:11:46,320
up originally on her profile um because
 

569
00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,350
up originally on her profile um because
somebody had given it to her and then it

570
00:11:49,350 --> 00:11:49,360
somebody had given it to her and then it
 

571
00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,150
somebody had given it to her and then it
was sort of like inconclusive because,

572
00:11:52,150 --> 00:11:52,160
was sort of like inconclusive because,
 

573
00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,870
was sort of like inconclusive because,
you know, weirdly enough, at for a

574
00:11:54,870 --> 00:11:54,880
you know, weirdly enough, at for a
 

575
00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,030
you know, weirdly enough, at for a
little while I I took that private

576
00:11:57,030 --> 00:11:57,040
little while I I took that private
 

577
00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,110
little while I I took that private
account down. Lizzy had reclaimed it.

578
00:11:59,110 --> 00:11:59,120
account down. Lizzy had reclaimed it.
 

579
00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,710
account down. Lizzy had reclaimed it.
And so when people went to go try to

580
00:12:00,710 --> 00:12:00,720
And so when people went to go try to
 

581
00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,910
And so when people went to go try to
verify it, um, they saw that the account

582
00:12:03,910 --> 00:12:03,920
verify it, um, they saw that the account
 

583
00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,990
verify it, um, they saw that the account
was following Lizzy because it was her

584
00:12:05,990 --> 00:12:06,000
was following Lizzy because it was her
 

585
00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,470
was following Lizzy because it was her
who had reclaimed it. Mhm. Um, so for a

586
00:12:08,470 --> 00:12:08,480
who had reclaimed it. Mhm. Um, so for a
 

587
00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,069
who had reclaimed it. Mhm. Um, so for a
little while people weren't really able

588
00:12:10,069 --> 00:12:10,079
little while people weren't really able
 

589
00:12:10,079 --> 00:12:13,750
little while people weren't really able
to really say if it was accurate or you

590
00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:13,760
to really say if it was accurate or you
 

591
00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,990
to really say if it was accurate or you
know where it had came come from, but

592
00:12:15,990 --> 00:12:16,000
know where it had came come from, but
 

593
00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,910
know where it had came come from, but
eventually at some point people were

594
00:12:17,910 --> 00:12:17,920
eventually at some point people were
 

595
00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,350
eventually at some point people were
able to put it together just because I

596
00:12:19,350 --> 00:12:19,360
able to put it together just because I
 

597
00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,990
able to put it together just because I
had a few of my mutuals like responding

598
00:12:21,990 --> 00:12:22,000
had a few of my mutuals like responding
 

599
00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,150
had a few of my mutuals like responding
to the account. So they were able to

600
00:12:24,150 --> 00:12:24,160
to the account. So they were able to
 

601
00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,470
to the account. So they were able to
then later piece together it was me. It

602
00:12:26,470 --> 00:12:26,480
then later piece together it was me. It
 

603
00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:27,990
then later piece together it was me. It
was like two years ago when they had

604
00:12:27,990 --> 00:12:28,000
was like two years ago when they had
 

605
00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,910
was like two years ago when they had
pieced it together which was like seven

606
00:12:29,910 --> 00:12:29,920
pieced it together which was like seven
 

607
00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,509
pieced it together which was like seven
years after the relationship or

608
00:12:31,509 --> 00:12:31,519
years after the relationship or
 

609
00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:33,110
years after the relationship or
something. I think it was six or seven

610
00:12:33,110 --> 00:12:33,120
something. I think it was six or seven
 

611
00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,629
something. I think it was six or seven
years after the relationship was already

612
00:12:34,629 --> 00:12:34,639
years after the relationship was already
 

613
00:12:34,639 --> 00:12:37,269
years after the relationship was already
over with. So yeah, everybody found out

614
00:12:37,269 --> 00:12:37,279
over with. So yeah, everybody found out
 

615
00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:41,110
over with. So yeah, everybody found out
uh much later than you know I mean I'm

616
00:12:41,110 --> 00:12:41,120
uh much later than you know I mean I'm
 

617
00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,190
uh much later than you know I mean I'm
glad it was later than you know that it

618
00:12:45,190 --> 00:12:45,200
glad it was later than you know that it
 

619
00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,750
glad it was later than you know that it
was it ended way later like after the

620
00:12:47,750 --> 00:12:47,760
was it ended way later like after the
 

621
00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,750
was it ended way later like after the
fact. So like it was just like yeah that

622
00:12:49,750 --> 00:12:49,760
fact. So like it was just like yeah that
 

623
00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:50,949
fact. So like it was just like yeah that
was a thing that happened but it's

624
00:12:50,949 --> 00:12:50,959
was a thing that happened but it's
 

625
00:12:50,959 --> 00:12:52,790
was a thing that happened but it's
already long over so you thought like I

626
00:12:52,790 --> 00:12:52,800
already long over so you thought like I
 

627
00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,629
already long over so you thought like I
don't have to think about this again and

628
00:12:54,629 --> 00:12:54,639
don't have to think about this again and
 

629
00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:57,350
don't have to think about this again and
now it's getting brought up again.

630
00:12:57,350 --> 00:12:57,360
now it's getting brought up again.
 

631
00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,110
now it's getting brought up again.
Was there a point where it trended on

632
00:12:59,110 --> 00:12:59,120
Was there a point where it trended on
 

633
00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,430
Was there a point where it trended on
Twitter? Was there any reason why you

634
00:13:01,430 --> 00:13:01,440
Twitter? Was there any reason why you
 

635
00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,710
Twitter? Was there any reason why you
didn't like tell people about this

636
00:13:02,710 --> 00:13:02,720
didn't like tell people about this
 

637
00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,790
didn't like tell people about this
relationship? Did it just feel like

638
00:13:04,790 --> 00:13:04,800
relationship? Did it just feel like
 

639
00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,990
relationship? Did it just feel like
weird because you guys were like both

640
00:13:06,990 --> 00:13:07,000
weird because you guys were like both
 

641
00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,430
weird because you guys were like both
like people that were like represented

642
00:13:09,430 --> 00:13:09,440
like people that were like represented
 

643
00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,910
like people that were like represented
Sega or something or

644
00:13:11,910 --> 00:13:11,920
Sega or something or
 

645
00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,310
Sega or something or
I mean kind of right. I do feel like

646
00:13:14,310 --> 00:13:14,320
I mean kind of right. I do feel like
 

647
00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,870
I mean kind of right. I do feel like
that's not something that I you know I

648
00:13:16,870 --> 00:13:16,880
that's not something that I you know I
 

649
00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,509
that's not something that I you know I
feel like every Sonic fan is I don't

650
00:13:19,509 --> 00:13:19,519
feel like every Sonic fan is I don't
 

651
00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:20,629
feel like every Sonic fan is I don't
feel like people are going to be good

652
00:13:20,629 --> 00:13:20,639
feel like people are going to be good
 

653
00:13:20,639 --> 00:13:22,389
feel like people are going to be good
with that information. It's hard to

654
00:13:22,389 --> 00:13:22,399
with that information. It's hard to
 

655
00:13:22,399 --> 00:13:25,110
with that information. It's hard to
explain but I do feel like you know if

656
00:13:25,110 --> 00:13:25,120
explain but I do feel like you know if
 

657
00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,110
explain but I do feel like you know if
you tell a Sonic fan something like that

658
00:13:27,110 --> 00:13:27,120
you tell a Sonic fan something like that
 

659
00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,350
you tell a Sonic fan something like that
you know hey I'm dating this guy who's

660
00:13:29,350 --> 00:13:29,360
you know hey I'm dating this guy who's
 

661
00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,470
you know hey I'm dating this guy who's
the voice of Sonic. I I just don't know

662
00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:32,480
the voice of Sonic. I I just don't know
 

663
00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,389
the voice of Sonic. I I just don't know
what to expect from that reaction, you

664
00:13:34,389 --> 00:13:34,399
what to expect from that reaction, you
 

665
00:13:34,399 --> 00:13:36,069
what to expect from that reaction, you
know, cuz I I understand that people

666
00:13:36,069 --> 00:13:36,079
know, cuz I I understand that people
 

667
00:13:36,079 --> 00:13:37,829
know, cuz I I understand that people
aren't able to really not not everybody,

668
00:13:37,829 --> 00:13:37,839
aren't able to really not not everybody,
 

669
00:13:37,839 --> 00:13:40,310
aren't able to really not not everybody,
but there are a lot of people who aren't

670
00:13:40,310 --> 00:13:40,320
but there are a lot of people who aren't
 

671
00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,030
but there are a lot of people who aren't
able to see that these are real people,

672
00:13:43,030 --> 00:13:43,040
able to see that these are real people,
 

673
00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,949
able to see that these are real people,
you know, instead of just, you know,

674
00:13:44,949 --> 00:13:44,959
you know, instead of just, you know,
 

675
00:13:44,959 --> 00:13:47,269
you know, instead of just, you know,
Sonic himself, you know, this is like a

676
00:13:47,269 --> 00:13:47,279
Sonic himself, you know, this is like a
 

677
00:13:47,279 --> 00:13:50,069
Sonic himself, you know, this is like a
real guy. So, yeah. And I mean, you also

678
00:13:50,069 --> 00:13:50,079
real guy. So, yeah. And I mean, you also
 

679
00:13:50,079 --> 00:13:51,990
real guy. So, yeah. And I mean, you also
like your voice work, at least your

680
00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:52,000
like your voice work, at least your
 

681
00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,829
like your voice work, at least your
voice acting cred is doing a really good

682
00:13:53,829 --> 00:13:53,839
voice acting cred is doing a really good
 

683
00:13:53,839 --> 00:13:56,069
voice acting cred is doing a really good
Tales impression. So, I think people

684
00:13:56,069 --> 00:13:56,079
Tales impression. So, I think people
 

685
00:13:56,079 --> 00:13:57,389
Tales impression. So, I think people
might

686
00:13:57,389 --> 00:13:57,399
might
 

687
00:13:57,399 --> 00:13:59,910
might
start drawing to the weirdest

688
00:13:59,910 --> 00:13:59,920
start drawing to the weirdest
 

689
00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:03,189
start drawing to the weirdest
conclusions with that, you know. Yeah.

690
00:14:03,189 --> 00:14:03,199
conclusions with that, you know. Yeah.
 

691
00:14:03,199 --> 00:14:05,509
conclusions with that, you know. Yeah.
And they did. And they did afterwards.

692
00:14:05,509 --> 00:14:05,519
And they did. And they did afterwards.
 

693
00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:07,110
And they did. And they did afterwards.
They did, you know, and it's like, yeah,

694
00:14:07,110 --> 00:14:07,120
They did, you know, and it's like, yeah,
 

695
00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,550
They did, you know, and it's like, yeah,
see, this is kind of why I didn't want

696
00:14:08,550 --> 00:14:08,560
see, this is kind of why I didn't want
 

697
00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:10,870
see, this is kind of why I didn't want
to really have this be a thing. I did

698
00:14:10,870 --> 00:14:10,880
to really have this be a thing. I did
 

699
00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,710
to really have this be a thing. I did
tell like personal friends of mine, you

700
00:14:12,710 --> 00:14:12,720
tell like personal friends of mine, you
 

701
00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,470
tell like personal friends of mine, you
know, during the time. So, like I did

702
00:14:14,470 --> 00:14:14,480
know, during the time. So, like I did
 

703
00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,310
know, during the time. So, like I did
trust personal friends with that, you

704
00:14:16,310 --> 00:14:16,320
trust personal friends with that, you
 

705
00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,310
trust personal friends with that, you
know, but yeah, public-wise, I I knew

706
00:14:18,310 --> 00:14:18,320
know, but yeah, public-wise, I I knew
 

707
00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,030
know, but yeah, public-wise, I I knew
that was not something I I was ready to

708
00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:21,040
that was not something I I was ready to
 

709
00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,790
that was not something I I was ready to
talk about. Obviously, if we had

710
00:14:22,790 --> 00:14:22,800
talk about. Obviously, if we had
 

711
00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,230
talk about. Obviously, if we had
continued the relationship and

712
00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:24,240
continued the relationship and
 

713
00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:25,829
continued the relationship and
inevitably, you know, at that point, if

714
00:14:25,829 --> 00:14:25,839
inevitably, you know, at that point, if
 

715
00:14:25,839 --> 00:14:28,150
inevitably, you know, at that point, if
we had like gotten engaged or whatever,

716
00:14:28,150 --> 00:14:28,160
we had like gotten engaged or whatever,
 

717
00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,750
we had like gotten engaged or whatever,
okay, then I'll talk about it, you know,

718
00:14:29,750 --> 00:14:29,760
okay, then I'll talk about it, you know,
 

719
00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,509
okay, then I'll talk about it, you know,
once it's more set in stone. That's how

720
00:14:31,509 --> 00:14:31,519
once it's more set in stone. That's how
 

721
00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:33,030
once it's more set in stone. That's how
I've always been with my relationships,

722
00:14:33,030 --> 00:14:33,040
I've always been with my relationships,
 

723
00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,110
I've always been with my relationships,
though. I don't sure want to like be

724
00:14:35,110 --> 00:14:35,120
though. I don't sure want to like be
 

725
00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,790
though. I don't sure want to like be
super public with a relationship and

726
00:14:36,790 --> 00:14:36,800
super public with a relationship and
 

727
00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,470
super public with a relationship and
then there's a breakup and then it's a

728
00:14:38,470 --> 00:14:38,480
then there's a breakup and then it's a
 

729
00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,230
then there's a breakup and then it's a
mess. You know what I mean? I got you.

730
00:14:40,230 --> 00:14:40,240
mess. You know what I mean? I got you.
 

731
00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,189
mess. You know what I mean? I got you.
And it's not really the internet's like

732
00:14:43,189 --> 00:14:43,199
And it's not really the internet's like
 

733
00:14:43,199 --> 00:14:45,509
And it's not really the internet's like
business anyway. And in retrospect, like

734
00:14:45,509 --> 00:14:45,519
business anyway. And in retrospect, like
 

735
00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:47,189
business anyway. And in retrospect, like
I'm in a relationship, but I don't make

736
00:14:47,189 --> 00:14:47,199
I'm in a relationship, but I don't make
 

737
00:14:47,199 --> 00:14:48,949
I'm in a relationship, but I don't make
that public to my fans ever. I talk

738
00:14:48,949 --> 00:14:48,959
that public to my fans ever. I talk
 

739
00:14:48,959 --> 00:14:50,949
that public to my fans ever. I talk
about it, but like he's never on camera

740
00:14:50,949 --> 00:14:50,959
about it, but like he's never on camera
 

741
00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:52,629
about it, but like he's never on camera
and I don't post about him on my socials

742
00:14:52,629 --> 00:14:52,639
and I don't post about him on my socials
 

743
00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:54,069
and I don't post about him on my socials
or anything like that cuz it's not

744
00:14:54,069 --> 00:14:54,079
or anything like that cuz it's not
 

745
00:14:54,079 --> 00:14:55,829
or anything like that cuz it's not
really anyone's business if he he wants

746
00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:55,839
really anyone's business if he he wants
 

747
00:14:55,839 --> 00:14:57,269
really anyone's business if he he wants
to be a private person. Like that's

748
00:14:57,269 --> 00:14:57,279
to be a private person. Like that's
 

749
00:14:57,279 --> 00:14:59,430
to be a private person. Like that's
something I Yeah. respect and I hope

750
00:14:59,430 --> 00:14:59,440
something I Yeah. respect and I hope
 

751
00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,750
something I Yeah. respect and I hope
people do respect but some people don't

752
00:15:01,750 --> 00:15:01,760
people do respect but some people don't
 

753
00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,910
people do respect but some people don't
and it kind of leads to this. So, you

754
00:15:03,910 --> 00:15:03,920
and it kind of leads to this. So, you
 

755
00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,670
and it kind of leads to this. So, you
know,

756
00:15:05,670 --> 00:15:05,680
know,
 

757
00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,870
know,
uh just so that we can and

758
00:15:08,870 --> 00:15:08,880
uh just so that we can and
 

759
00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,990
uh just so that we can and
right

760
00:15:11,990 --> 00:15:12,000

 

761
00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,629

but uh just so we can clarify, you said

762
00:15:14,629 --> 00:15:14,639
but uh just so we can clarify, you said
 

763
00:15:14,639 --> 00:15:15,990
but uh just so we can clarify, you said
that these were on like private

764
00:15:15,990 --> 00:15:16,000
that these were on like private
 

765
00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,910
that these were on like private
accounts. Was it the the Tales Power

766
00:15:17,910 --> 00:15:17,920
accounts. Was it the the Tales Power
 

767
00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,829
accounts. Was it the the Tales Power
Girl accounts that people have been

768
00:15:19,829 --> 00:15:19,839
Girl accounts that people have been
 

769
00:15:19,839 --> 00:15:21,829
Girl accounts that people have been
pointing to?

770
00:15:21,829 --> 00:15:21,839
pointing to?
 

771
00:15:21,839 --> 00:15:24,470
pointing to?
Yep. Yep. Those are the ones.

772
00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:24,480
Yep. Yep. Those are the ones.
 

773
00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,430
Yep. Yep. Those are the ones.
Aren't those always so much

774
00:15:26,430 --> 00:15:26,440
Aren't those always so much
 

775
00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,949
Aren't those always so much
fun? That's why I never run like secret

776
00:15:28,949 --> 00:15:28,959
fun? That's why I never run like secret
 

777
00:15:28,959 --> 00:15:31,430
fun? That's why I never run like secret
private accounts.

778
00:15:31,430 --> 00:15:31,440
private accounts.
 

779
00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,269
private accounts.
Yeah, right. Yeah. Never that again.

780
00:15:34,269 --> 00:15:34,279
Yeah, right. Yeah. Never that again.
 

781
00:15:34,279 --> 00:15:36,470
Yeah, right. Yeah. Never that again.
Yeah. So, I mean, I think that kind of

782
00:15:36,470 --> 00:15:36,480
Yeah. So, I mean, I think that kind of
 

783
00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:37,910
Yeah. So, I mean, I think that kind of
just covers with Ryan. You guys are

784
00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:37,920
just covers with Ryan. You guys are
 

785
00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,430
just covers with Ryan. You guys are
still good friends to this day, which is

786
00:15:39,430 --> 00:15:39,440
still good friends to this day, which is
 

787
00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,590
still good friends to this day, which is
great. We love that. We love peace and

788
00:15:41,590 --> 00:15:41,600
great. We love that. We love peace and
 

789
00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,310
great. We love that. We love peace and
love in the universe. Um, but there is

790
00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:44,320
love in the universe. Um, but there is
 

791
00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,269
love in the universe. Um, but there is
another Sega employee that you had uh a

792
00:15:47,269 --> 00:15:47,279
another Sega employee that you had uh a
 

793
00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:49,430
another Sega employee that you had uh a
bit of a not spat but like a bit of like

794
00:15:49,430 --> 00:15:49,440
bit of a not spat but like a bit of like
 

795
00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,069
bit of a not spat but like a bit of like
a adjustment with and that was Mike Pock

796
00:15:52,069 --> 00:15:52,079
a adjustment with and that was Mike Pock
 

797
00:15:52,079 --> 00:15:55,350
a adjustment with and that was Mike Pock
who is the voice actor for Dr. Eggman.

798
00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:55,360
who is the voice actor for Dr. Eggman.
 

799
00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,590
who is the voice actor for Dr. Eggman.
He was also in Sonic and Tales are for a

800
00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:57,600
He was also in Sonic and Tales are for a
 

801
00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,829
He was also in Sonic and Tales are for a
couple episodes. I I think he was on

802
00:15:59,829 --> 00:15:59,839
couple episodes. I I think he was on
 

803
00:15:59,839 --> 00:16:01,430
couple episodes. I I think he was on
there for like episode 4. Maybe he was

804
00:16:01,430 --> 00:16:01,440
there for like episode 4. Maybe he was
 

805
00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,990
there for like episode 4. Maybe he was
there at the beginning. Um, there was a

806
00:16:03,990 --> 00:16:04,000
there at the beginning. Um, there was a
 

807
00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,990
there at the beginning. Um, there was a
dispute that happened where Mike came

808
00:16:05,990 --> 00:16:06,000
dispute that happened where Mike came
 

809
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,990
dispute that happened where Mike came
out publicly on Twitter saying that he

810
00:16:07,990 --> 00:16:08,000
out publicly on Twitter saying that he
 

811
00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,550
out publicly on Twitter saying that he
never got paid for that role. Um, could

812
00:16:10,550 --> 00:16:10,560
never got paid for that role. Um, could
 

813
00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,230
never got paid for that role. Um, could
you kind of explain like what happened

814
00:16:12,230 --> 00:16:12,240
you kind of explain like what happened
 

815
00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,470
you kind of explain like what happened
with that? Was that an accurate thing

816
00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:14,480
with that? Was that an accurate thing
 

817
00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,629
with that? Was that an accurate thing
where you guys never paid him or

818
00:16:18,629 --> 00:16:18,639
where you guys never paid him or
 

819
00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:20,870
where you guys never paid him or
So, I mean, so technically, yes, we did

820
00:16:20,870 --> 00:16:20,880
So, I mean, so technically, yes, we did
 

821
00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,590
So, I mean, so technically, yes, we did
not pay him and that is because when it

822
00:16:23,590 --> 00:16:23,600
not pay him and that is because when it
 

823
00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,470
not pay him and that is because when it
came to when we got him on the show, uh,

824
00:16:26,470 --> 00:16:26,480
came to when we got him on the show, uh,
 

825
00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,470
came to when we got him on the show, uh,
we reached out. It was actually Ryan who

826
00:16:28,470 --> 00:16:28,480
we reached out. It was actually Ryan who
 

827
00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,870
we reached out. It was actually Ryan who
reached out to him and, uh, he was

828
00:16:30,870 --> 00:16:30,880
reached out to him and, uh, he was
 

829
00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,150
reached out to him and, uh, he was
actually interested in doing it. He said

830
00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:32,160
actually interested in doing it. He said
 

831
00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,430
actually interested in doing it. He said
he'd love to, but he wants to make sure

832
00:16:33,430 --> 00:16:33,440
he'd love to, but he wants to make sure
 

833
00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,590
he'd love to, but he wants to make sure
that it would not cause any conflict

834
00:16:35,590 --> 00:16:35,600
that it would not cause any conflict
 

835
00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,310
that it would not cause any conflict
with obviously stuff at Sega. So, I

836
00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:38,320
with obviously stuff at Sega. So, I
 

837
00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,430
with obviously stuff at Sega. So, I
reached out to a point of contact and

838
00:16:41,430 --> 00:16:41,440
reached out to a point of contact and
 

839
00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,910
reached out to a point of contact and
asked them about it and they told me

840
00:16:43,910 --> 00:16:43,920
asked them about it and they told me
 

841
00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,509
asked them about it and they told me
like, "Yeah, this is totally fine. He

842
00:16:45,509 --> 00:16:45,519
like, "Yeah, this is totally fine. He
 

843
00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:48,310
like, "Yeah, this is totally fine. He
can do this, but two things. One, he

844
00:16:48,310 --> 00:16:48,320
can do this, but two things. One, he
 

845
00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,110
can do this, but two things. One, he
cannot get paid. It would breach like

846
00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:51,120
cannot get paid. It would breach like
 

847
00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,550
cannot get paid. It would breach like
his contract that he had with them

848
00:16:52,550 --> 00:16:52,560
his contract that he had with them
 

849
00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,470
his contract that he had with them
legally. He cannot get paid for doing

850
00:16:54,470 --> 00:16:54,480
legally. He cannot get paid for doing
 

851
00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,949
legally. He cannot get paid for doing
the voice of Dr. Eggman unless it is

852
00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:56,959
the voice of Dr. Eggman unless it is
 

853
00:16:56,959 --> 00:16:59,430
the voice of Dr. Eggman unless it is
directly from Sega." And also too,

854
00:16:59,430 --> 00:16:59,440
directly from Sega." And also too,
 

855
00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,310
directly from Sega." And also too,
second, I hope he's aware that this will

856
00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:02,320
second, I hope he's aware that this will
 

857
00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,909
second, I hope he's aware that this will
spark a lot of fans asking for him to

858
00:17:05,909 --> 00:17:05,919
spark a lot of fans asking for him to
 

859
00:17:05,919 --> 00:17:07,669
spark a lot of fans asking for him to
also do stuff for their project. So, as

860
00:17:07,669 --> 00:17:07,679
also do stuff for their project. So, as
 

861
00:17:07,679 --> 00:17:09,669
also do stuff for their project. So, as
long as he's, you know, aware of that,

862
00:17:09,669 --> 00:17:09,679
long as he's, you know, aware of that,
 

863
00:17:09,679 --> 00:17:11,669
long as he's, you know, aware of that,
you know, then all is good. So, you

864
00:17:11,669 --> 00:17:11,679
you know, then all is good. So, you
 

865
00:17:11,679 --> 00:17:14,390
you know, then all is good. So, you
know, we talked with uh Mike and

866
00:17:14,390 --> 00:17:14,400
know, we talked with uh Mike and
 

867
00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,630
know, we talked with uh Mike and
everything and he had reaffirmed

868
00:17:16,630 --> 00:17:16,640
everything and he had reaffirmed
 

869
00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,429
everything and he had reaffirmed
everything with Sega and so we continued

870
00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:19,439
everything with Sega and so we continued
 

871
00:17:19,439 --> 00:17:21,590
everything with Sega and so we continued
on with the show and it was not until

872
00:17:21,590 --> 00:17:21,600
on with the show and it was not until
 

873
00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,510
on with the show and it was not until
after the show that uh we had heard this

874
00:17:25,510 --> 00:17:25,520
after the show that uh we had heard this
 

875
00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,829
after the show that uh we had heard this
uh about us, you know, not paying him.

876
00:17:27,829 --> 00:17:27,839
uh about us, you know, not paying him.
 

877
00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:29,190
uh about us, you know, not paying him.
and it was kind of framed in this

878
00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:29,200
and it was kind of framed in this
 

879
00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,789
and it was kind of framed in this
negative light. So, uh, we did contact

880
00:17:32,789 --> 00:17:32,799
negative light. So, uh, we did contact
 

881
00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:35,270
negative light. So, uh, we did contact
him privately about it, you know, to to

882
00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:35,280
him privately about it, you know, to to
 

883
00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,110
him privately about it, you know, to to
see what was going on. Um, it was to the

884
00:17:39,110 --> 00:17:39,120
see what was going on. Um, it was to the
 

885
00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:41,270
see what was going on. Um, it was to the
point where because he had put that out

886
00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:41,280
point where because he had put that out
 

887
00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,150
point where because he had put that out
there, we were getting harassed really,

888
00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:44,160
there, we were getting harassed really,
 

889
00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,630
there, we were getting harassed really,
really badly and we felt horrible

890
00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:46,640
really badly and we felt horrible
 

891
00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,630
really badly and we felt horrible
because, you know, it it had even gotten

892
00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:48,640
because, you know, it it had even gotten
 

893
00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,310
because, you know, it it had even gotten
to a point where we had kind of

894
00:17:50,310 --> 00:17:50,320
to a point where we had kind of
 

895
00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,150
to a point where we had kind of
secondguessed oursel like, well, did did

896
00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:52,160
secondguessed oursel like, well, did did
 

897
00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,830
secondguessed oursel like, well, did did
we not communicate something? I I don't

898
00:17:53,830 --> 00:17:53,840
we not communicate something? I I don't
 

899
00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,470
we not communicate something? I I don't
know. And so we were like, maybe we

900
00:17:56,470 --> 00:17:56,480
know. And so we were like, maybe we
 

901
00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,470
know. And so we were like, maybe we
maybe we can pay you because we just

902
00:17:58,470 --> 00:17:58,480
maybe we can pay you because we just
 

903
00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,310
maybe we can pay you because we just
didn't want to cause any conflict for

904
00:18:00,310 --> 00:18:00,320
didn't want to cause any conflict for
 

905
00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,630
didn't want to cause any conflict for
Mike. You know, we we respect him. So we

906
00:18:02,630 --> 00:18:02,640
Mike. You know, we we respect him. So we
 

907
00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,830
Mike. You know, we we respect him. So we
we tried offering that. Um he did not

908
00:18:05,830 --> 00:18:05,840
we tried offering that. Um he did not
 

909
00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,230
we tried offering that. Um he did not
want to accept it. We did explain to him

910
00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:08,240
want to accept it. We did explain to him
 

911
00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,350
want to accept it. We did explain to him
again that legally we couldn't pay him

912
00:18:11,350 --> 00:18:11,360
again that legally we couldn't pay him
 

913
00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:13,390
again that legally we couldn't pay him
to which he was like,

914
00:18:13,390 --> 00:18:13,400
to which he was like,
 

915
00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,909
to which he was like,
"Oh, okay. Well, that yeah, that kind of

916
00:18:15,909 --> 00:18:15,919
"Oh, okay. Well, that yeah, that kind of
 

917
00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:17,669
"Oh, okay. Well, that yeah, that kind of
changes things." And it it did get to a

918
00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:17,679
changes things." And it it did get to a
 

919
00:18:17,679 --> 00:18:19,669
changes things." And it it did get to a
point where he wound up apologizing to

920
00:18:19,669 --> 00:18:19,679
point where he wound up apologizing to
 

921
00:18:19,679 --> 00:18:22,870
point where he wound up apologizing to
the team. uh he has like this website

922
00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:22,880
the team. uh he has like this website
 

923
00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,870
the team. uh he has like this website
where it's like a like he posts like

924
00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:24,880
where it's like a like he posts like
 

925
00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,870
where it's like a like he posts like
rules and screeds, different like

926
00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:26,880
rules and screeds, different like
 

927
00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,190
rules and screeds, different like
statements that he's ever made. And uh

928
00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:29,200
statements that he's ever made. And uh
 

929
00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,950
statements that he's ever made. And uh
he did wind up putting out like this

930
00:18:30,950 --> 00:18:30,960
he did wind up putting out like this
 

931
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,029
he did wind up putting out like this
public screed uh apologizing to the team

932
00:18:33,029 --> 00:18:33,039
public screed uh apologizing to the team
 

933
00:18:33,039 --> 00:18:34,630
public screed uh apologizing to the team
and explaining everything that happened

934
00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:34,640
and explaining everything that happened
 

935
00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,190
and explaining everything that happened
to kind of stop people from harassing us

936
00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:37,200
to kind of stop people from harassing us
 

937
00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,789
to kind of stop people from harassing us
and explaining, you know, what really

938
00:18:38,789 --> 00:18:38,799
and explaining, you know, what really
 

939
00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:41,190
and explaining, you know, what really
happened, right? Was that like a

940
00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:41,200
happened, right? Was that like a
 

941
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,350
happened, right? Was that like a
copyright thing where it was just like

942
00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:43,360
copyright thing where it was just like
 

943
00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:46,470
copyright thing where it was just like
Sega like doesn't want people paying him

944
00:18:46,470 --> 00:18:46,480
Sega like doesn't want people paying him
 

945
00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,549
Sega like doesn't want people paying him
to do his voice of Dr. Eggman because of

946
00:18:48,549 --> 00:18:48,559
to do his voice of Dr. Eggman because of
 

947
00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:51,669
to do his voice of Dr. Eggman because of
like copyright reasons?

948
00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:51,679
like copyright reasons?
 

949
00:18:51,679 --> 00:18:53,350
like copyright reasons?
I mean, it seems to be I don't know if

950
00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:53,360
I mean, it seems to be I don't know if
 

951
00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:55,669
I mean, it seems to be I don't know if
it's it's necessarily copyright as much

952
00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:55,679
it's it's necessarily copyright as much
 

953
00:18:55,679 --> 00:18:58,549
it's it's necessarily copyright as much
as it is like just there's a legal gray

954
00:18:58,549 --> 00:18:58,559
as it is like just there's a legal gray
 

955
00:18:58,559 --> 00:19:01,430
as it is like just there's a legal gray
area with you can't have him being paid

956
00:19:01,430 --> 00:19:01,440
area with you can't have him being paid
 

957
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,789
area with you can't have him being paid
by a a different entity if that makes

958
00:19:04,789 --> 00:19:04,799
by a a different entity if that makes
 

959
00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:06,390
by a a different entity if that makes
sense. Like if you're if he's getting

960
00:19:06,390 --> 00:19:06,400
sense. Like if you're if he's getting
 

961
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,549
sense. Like if you're if he's getting
paid for Eggman somewhere else, then

962
00:19:08,549 --> 00:19:08,559
paid for Eggman somewhere else, then
 

963
00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:10,230
paid for Eggman somewhere else, then
that does conflict. There's like a

964
00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:10,240
that does conflict. There's like a
 

965
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,470
that does conflict. There's like a
conflict of interest there. Okay. Can I

966
00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:12,480
conflict of interest there. Okay. Can I
 

967
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,950
conflict of interest there. Okay. Can I
chime in on this? Sure. I think I think

968
00:19:16,950 --> 00:19:16,960
chime in on this? Sure. I think I think
 

969
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,549
chime in on this? Sure. I think I think
probably within this case for the

970
00:19:18,549 --> 00:19:18,559
probably within this case for the
 

971
00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:20,950
probably within this case for the
business, right? If you're if you've got

972
00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:20,960
business, right? If you're if you've got
 

973
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,350
business, right? If you're if you've got
an actor known for playing this voice

974
00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:23,360
an actor known for playing this voice
 

975
00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:25,350
an actor known for playing this voice
and they're in another project when

976
00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:25,360
and they're in another project when
 

977
00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:27,350
and they're in another project when
they've been the official voice, it

978
00:19:27,350 --> 00:19:27,360
they've been the official voice, it
 

979
00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:28,630
they've been the official voice, it
might seem like the project might be

980
00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:28,640
might seem like the project might be
 

981
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,510
might seem like the project might be
official and there's probably a lot of

982
00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:31,520
official and there's probably a lot of
 

983
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,029
official and there's probably a lot of
children. Actually, it's the Sonic fan

984
00:19:33,029 --> 00:19:33,039
children. Actually, it's the Sonic fan
 

985
00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:37,350
children. Actually, it's the Sonic fan
base. It's all children um online who

986
00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:37,360
base. It's all children um online who
 

987
00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:39,990
base. It's all children um online who
would wind up seeing the project and

988
00:19:39,990 --> 00:19:40,000
would wind up seeing the project and
 

989
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,789
would wind up seeing the project and
noticing that uh oh, that's the guy who

990
00:19:42,789 --> 00:19:42,799
noticing that uh oh, that's the guy who
 

991
00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:44,470
noticing that uh oh, that's the guy who
voices Eggman in this. This must be

992
00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:44,480
voices Eggman in this. This must be
 

993
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,909
voices Eggman in this. This must be
official Sonic media and that probably

994
00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:47,919
official Sonic media and that probably
 

995
00:19:47,919 --> 00:19:53,270
official Sonic media and that probably
presents a boundary for Sega.

996
00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:53,280

 

997
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,029

I mean, I suppose that would make sense

998
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:55,039
I mean, I suppose that would make sense
 

999
00:19:55,039 --> 00:19:56,470
I mean, I suppose that would make sense
if if it's one of those things where

1000
00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:56,480
if if it's one of those things where
 

1001
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,870
if if it's one of those things where
it's like they want anything Sonic

1002
00:19:58,870 --> 00:19:58,880
it's like they want anything Sonic
 

1003
00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,870
it's like they want anything Sonic
related to be on their terms. I suppose

1004
00:20:00,870 --> 00:20:00,880
related to be on their terms. I suppose
 

1005
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,270
related to be on their terms. I suppose
that would probably be understandable if

1006
00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:03,280
that would probably be understandable if
 

1007
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,789
that would probably be understandable if
like if you're doing a fan project,

1008
00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:04,799
like if you're doing a fan project,
 

1009
00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:06,870
like if you're doing a fan project,
right? A lot of fan works do have like a

1010
00:20:06,870 --> 00:20:06,880
right? A lot of fan works do have like a
 

1011
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,470
right? A lot of fan works do have like a
copyright issue, but maybe it's because

1012
00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:08,480
copyright issue, but maybe it's because
 

1013
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,430
copyright issue, but maybe it's because
like official licensing for things uh

1014
00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:11,440
like official licensing for things uh
 

1015
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,909
like official licensing for things uh
can't extend extend to fan works

1016
00:20:13,909 --> 00:20:13,919
can't extend extend to fan works
 

1017
00:20:13,919 --> 00:20:15,830
can't extend extend to fan works
otherwise you would have to adhere to a

1018
00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:15,840
otherwise you would have to adhere to a
 

1019
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,230
otherwise you would have to adhere to a
lot more under a Sega contract than you

1020
00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:18,240
lot more under a Sega contract than you
 

1021
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,830
lot more under a Sega contract than you
would just your own thing. So maybe they

1022
00:20:19,830 --> 00:20:19,840
would just your own thing. So maybe they
 

1023
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,230
would just your own thing. So maybe they
just didn't want to interfere in their

1024
00:20:21,230 --> 00:20:21,240
just didn't want to interfere in their
 

1025
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,830
just didn't want to interfere in their
like with their lawyers and stuff to

1026
00:20:23,830 --> 00:20:23,840
like with their lawyers and stuff to
 

1027
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,590
like with their lawyers and stuff to
like sue you up the ass or something

1028
00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:25,600
like sue you up the ass or something
 

1029
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,909
like sue you up the ass or something
like that. So I suppose, you know, I

1030
00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:27,919
like that. So I suppose, you know, I
 

1031
00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:30,310
like that. So I suppose, you know, I
think that that's probably it. Yeah. And

1032
00:20:30,310 --> 00:20:30,320
think that that's probably it. Yeah. And
 

1033
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,710
think that that's probably it. Yeah. And
and two, we also like made sure to like

1034
00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:32,720
and two, we also like made sure to like
 

1035
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,430
and two, we also like made sure to like
follow particular guidelines like making

1036
00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:35,440
follow particular guidelines like making
 

1037
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,270
follow particular guidelines like making
sure there's nothing inappropriate being

1038
00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:37,280
sure there's nothing inappropriate being
 

1039
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,990
sure there's nothing inappropriate being
said. Like for our episode 6 when we had

1040
00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:40,000
said. Like for our episode 6 when we had
 

1041
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,789
said. Like for our episode 6 when we had
Shadow play or Shadow just on the uh

1042
00:20:42,789 --> 00:20:42,799
Shadow play or Shadow just on the uh
 

1043
00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:44,470
Shadow play or Shadow just on the uh
show, you know, we had talked about

1044
00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:44,480
show, you know, we had talked about
 

1045
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,470
show, you know, we had talked about
maybe having Shadow swear, but just to

1046
00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:46,480
maybe having Shadow swear, but just to
 

1047
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,390
maybe having Shadow swear, but just to
be safe because we had Mike, we chose

1048
00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:48,400
be safe because we had Mike, we chose
 

1049
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,549
be safe because we had Mike, we chose
not to just to be careful. I mean, he

1050
00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:50,559
not to just to be careful. I mean, he
 

1051
00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:53,270
not to just to be careful. I mean, he
does say damn canonically, so maybe you

1052
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:53,280
does say damn canonically, so maybe you
 

1053
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,110
does say damn canonically, so maybe you
could have gotten away with one. You

1054
00:20:55,110 --> 00:20:55,120
could have gotten away with one. You
 

1055
00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:57,669
could have gotten away with one. You
could have gotten away with one.

1056
00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:57,679
could have gotten away with one.
 

1057
00:20:57,679 --> 00:20:59,990
could have gotten away with one.
I mean like I I think the whole I think

1058
00:20:59,990 --> 00:21:00,000
I mean like I I think the whole I think
 

1059
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,669
I mean like I I think the whole I think
the rule kind of makes sense and stuff

1060
00:21:01,669 --> 00:21:01,679
the rule kind of makes sense and stuff
 

1061
00:21:01,679 --> 00:21:03,909
the rule kind of makes sense and stuff
in in the world where like cuz I can't

1062
00:21:03,909 --> 00:21:03,919
in in the world where like cuz I can't
 

1063
00:21:03,919 --> 00:21:07,190
in in the world where like cuz I can't
think of any fan much fan media that has

1064
00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:07,200
think of any fan much fan media that has
 

1065
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,669
think of any fan much fan media that has
that's not produced. So okay, there's an

1066
00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:09,679
that's not produced. So okay, there's an
 

1067
00:21:09,679 --> 00:21:13,270
that's not produced. So okay, there's an
exception area for fan media that's like

1068
00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:13,280
exception area for fan media that's like
 

1069
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,350
exception area for fan media that's like
weird where it's like produced by some

1070
00:21:15,350 --> 00:21:15,360
weird where it's like produced by some
 

1071
00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:16,870
weird where it's like produced by some
of the creators and stuff cuz also like

1072
00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:16,880
of the creators and stuff cuz also like
 

1073
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,750
of the creators and stuff cuz also like
voice actors or actors for like

1074
00:21:18,750 --> 00:21:18,760
voice actors or actors for like
 

1075
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,710
voice actors or actors for like
characters would really like their

1076
00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:20,720
characters would really like their
 

1077
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,190
characters would really like their
character and decide to do some fan

1078
00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:23,200
character and decide to do some fan
 

1079
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,149
character and decide to do some fan
content of it. But it's rare to see like

1080
00:21:26,149 --> 00:21:26,159
content of it. But it's rare to see like
 

1081
00:21:26,159 --> 00:21:30,149
content of it. But it's rare to see like
a project by fans for fans using the

1082
00:21:30,149 --> 00:21:30,159
a project by fans for fans using the
 

1083
00:21:30,159 --> 00:21:32,870
a project by fans for fans using the
official staff. That's a big rarity from

1084
00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:32,880
official staff. That's a big rarity from
 

1085
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,669
official staff. That's a big rarity from
what I observe

1086
00:21:34,669 --> 00:21:34,679
what I observe
 

1087
00:21:34,679 --> 00:21:36,710
what I observe
nowadays. Comments, correct me if I'm

1088
00:21:36,710 --> 00:21:36,720
nowadays. Comments, correct me if I'm
 

1089
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,029
nowadays. Comments, correct me if I'm
wrong. I mean, damn. I'm I'm kind of

1090
00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:39,039
wrong. I mean, damn. I'm I'm kind of
 

1091
00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:40,390
wrong. I mean, damn. I'm I'm kind of
just impressed that you're able to get

1092
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:40,400
just impressed that you're able to get
 

1093
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,230
just impressed that you're able to get
in in touch with half of these people

1094
00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:42,240
in in touch with half of these people
 

1095
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,710
in in touch with half of these people
anyway. But Oh, thank you. I mean, I

1096
00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:46,720
anyway. But Oh, thank you. I mean, I
 

1097
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,310
anyway. But Oh, thank you. I mean, I
honestly it came from like doing

1098
00:21:48,310 --> 00:21:48,320
honestly it came from like doing
 

1099
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,149
honestly it came from like doing
different work with different people.

1100
00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:50,159
different work with different people.
 

1101
00:21:50,159 --> 00:21:52,070
different work with different people.
Like I also like would do these charity

1102
00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:52,080
Like I also like would do these charity
 

1103
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,870
Like I also like would do these charity
streams and I met a lot of uh the voice

1104
00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:54,880
streams and I met a lot of uh the voice
 

1105
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,789
streams and I met a lot of uh the voice
talent through interviewing them for

1106
00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:56,799
talent through interviewing them for
 

1107
00:21:56,799 --> 00:21:59,990
talent through interviewing them for
charity events. Oh, that's kind of cool.

1108
00:21:59,990 --> 00:22:00,000
charity events. Oh, that's kind of cool.
 

1109
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,510
charity events. Oh, that's kind of cool.
Did you used to do that like during your

1110
00:22:01,510 --> 00:22:01,520
Did you used to do that like during your
 

1111
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,830
Did you used to do that like during your
your MLP days too or was that just like

1112
00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:03,840
your MLP days too or was that just like
 

1113
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,029
your MLP days too or was that just like
once you got into Sonic and stuff?

1114
00:22:07,029 --> 00:22:07,039
once you got into Sonic and stuff?
 

1115
00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:08,549
once you got into Sonic and stuff?
Actually, no. I did do that during the

1116
00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:08,559
Actually, no. I did do that during the
 

1117
00:22:08,559 --> 00:22:11,110
Actually, no. I did do that during the
MLP days as well. Yeah, I would bring on

1118
00:22:11,110 --> 00:22:11,120
MLP days as well. Yeah, I would bring on
 

1119
00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:13,669
MLP days as well. Yeah, I would bring on
uh some of the actors for interviews,

1120
00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:13,679
uh some of the actors for interviews,
 

1121
00:22:13,679 --> 00:22:15,590
uh some of the actors for interviews,
some of the writers. Trying to think

1122
00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:15,600
some of the writers. Trying to think
 

1123
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,270
some of the writers. Trying to think
everybody like on the top of my head. I

1124
00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:17,280
everybody like on the top of my head. I
 

1125
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,190
everybody like on the top of my head. I
think it's mostly writers, actors. I

1126
00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:19,200
think it's mostly writers, actors. I
 

1127
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,830
think it's mostly writers, actors. I
think I also brought in a couple fans

1128
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:21,840
think I also brought in a couple fans
 

1129
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,669
think I also brought in a couple fans
too if I remember correctly.

1130
00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:25,679
too if I remember correctly.
 

1131
00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:27,510
too if I remember correctly.
I guess I'm just kind of Yeah, I guess

1132
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:27,520
I guess I'm just kind of Yeah, I guess
 

1133
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,710
I guess I'm just kind of Yeah, I guess
I'm just kind of used to like when

1134
00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:28,720
I'm just kind of used to like when
 

1135
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,070
I'm just kind of used to like when
something gets big, right? When it's a

1136
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:30,080
something gets big, right? When it's a
 

1137
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,990
something gets big, right? When it's a
giant IP, I'm used to like most of the

1138
00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:32,000
giant IP, I'm used to like most of the
 

1139
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,310
giant IP, I'm used to like most of the
people associated with that IP to kind

1140
00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:34,320
people associated with that IP to kind
 

1141
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,310
people associated with that IP to kind
of be like a monolith. Like these are

1142
00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:36,320
of be like a monolith. Like these are
 

1143
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,750
of be like a monolith. Like these are
celebrities. They wouldn't talk down.

1144
00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:37,760
celebrities. They wouldn't talk down.
 

1145
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,029
celebrities. They wouldn't talk down.
They wouldn't like speak to people

1146
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:39,039
They wouldn't like speak to people
 

1147
00:22:39,039 --> 00:22:41,350
They wouldn't like speak to people
within their respective spears or

1148
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:41,360
within their respective spears or
 

1149
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:42,789
within their respective spears or
whatever. They're just like, you know,

1150
00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:42,799
whatever. They're just like, you know,
 

1151
00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:45,190
whatever. They're just like, you know,
VAS and whatever. But I I guess that's

1152
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:45,200
VAS and whatever. But I I guess that's
 

1153
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,870
VAS and whatever. But I I guess that's
just I haven't been involved in fandom

1154
00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:46,880
just I haven't been involved in fandom
 

1155
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,390
just I haven't been involved in fandom
spaces enough to know that no, these

1156
00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:48,400
spaces enough to know that no, these
 

1157
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,750
spaces enough to know that no, these
people are just like people you can just

1158
00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:49,760
people are just like people you can just
 

1159
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,510
people are just like people you can just
talk to, which is kind of insane to me

1160
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:51,520
talk to, which is kind of insane to me
 

1161
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,630
talk to, which is kind of insane to me
to think about, but

1162
00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:54,640
to think about, but
 

1163
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,909
to think about, but
No, I I agree. I I understand.

1164
00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:57,919
No, I I agree. I I understand.
 

1165
00:22:57,919 --> 00:23:00,950
No, I I agree. I I understand.
So, you've mentioned a name uh when you

1166
00:23:00,950 --> 00:23:00,960
So, you've mentioned a name uh when you
 

1167
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,270
So, you've mentioned a name uh when you
were talking about Ryan um a name um

1168
00:23:04,270 --> 00:23:04,280
were talking about Ryan um a name um
 

1169
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,149
were talking about Ryan um a name um
Lizzy. Um which will kind of segue into

1170
00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:08,159
Lizzy. Um which will kind of segue into
 

1171
00:23:08,159 --> 00:23:10,630
Lizzy. Um which will kind of segue into
what we're going to talk about next. Um,

1172
00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:10,640
what we're going to talk about next. Um,
 

1173
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,870
what we're going to talk about next. Um,
so in 1993, a person by the name of

1174
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:12,880
so in 1993, a person by the name of
 

1175
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,190
so in 1993, a person by the name of
Lindsay Silva got diagnosed with brain

1176
00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:15,200
Lindsay Silva got diagnosed with brain
 

1177
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,789
Lindsay Silva got diagnosed with brain
cancer and had a very invasive surgery

1178
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:16,799
cancer and had a very invasive surgery
 

1179
00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:18,390
cancer and had a very invasive surgery
that could have killed her and left her

1180
00:23:18,390 --> 00:23:18,400
that could have killed her and left her
 

1181
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,789
that could have killed her and left her
kind of disabled for a bit. Um, but

1182
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:20,799
kind of disabled for a bit. Um, but
 

1183
00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:23,750
kind of disabled for a bit. Um, but
Sonic the Hedgehog and the Sega Genesis,

1184
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:23,760
Sonic the Hedgehog and the Sega Genesis,
 

1185
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,950
Sonic the Hedgehog and the Sega Genesis,
uh, was something that helped her

1186
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:24,960
uh, was something that helped her
 

1187
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,950
uh, was something that helped her
recover from that. This was a story that

1188
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:26,960
recover from that. This was a story that
 

1189
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,950
recover from that. This was a story that
was featured on the Sonic Super Special,

1190
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:28,960
was featured on the Sonic Super Special,
 

1191
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,510
was featured on the Sonic Super Special,
uh, which is the, um, Archie comic

1192
00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:31,520
uh, which is the, um, Archie comic
 

1193
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,590
uh, which is the, um, Archie comic
exclusive where fans can write into it

1194
00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:33,600
exclusive where fans can write into it
 

1195
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,830
exclusive where fans can write into it
and like have their stories featured.

1196
00:23:35,830 --> 00:23:35,840
and like have their stories featured.
 

1197
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,830
and like have their stories featured.
Um, and Lizzie just happened to be one

1198
00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:37,840
Um, and Lizzie just happened to be one
 

1199
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,470
Um, and Lizzie just happened to be one
of those people. Um, Lizzy Silva has

1200
00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:40,480
of those people. Um, Lizzy Silva has
 

1201
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,310
of those people. Um, Lizzy Silva has
been somebody who is known in the fandom

1202
00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:42,320
been somebody who is known in the fandom
 

1203
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,430
been somebody who is known in the fandom
because of this. Um, and she kind of had

1204
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:45,440
because of this. Um, and she kind of had
 

1205
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,789
because of this. Um, and she kind of had
a little bit of a spat with you. Um, and

1206
00:23:48,789 --> 00:23:48,799
a little bit of a spat with you. Um, and
 

1207
00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:52,470
a little bit of a spat with you. Um, and
people have, you know, have taken their

1208
00:23:52,470 --> 00:23:52,480
people have, you know, have taken their
 

1209
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,390
people have, you know, have taken their
sides on the things, but like one of the

1210
00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:54,400
sides on the things, but like one of the
 

1211
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,549
sides on the things, but like one of the
things that kind of made its way around

1212
00:23:56,549 --> 00:23:56,559
things that kind of made its way around
 

1213
00:23:56,559 --> 00:24:00,310
things that kind of made its way around
because of a uh DM conversation with

1214
00:24:00,310 --> 00:24:00,320
because of a uh DM conversation with
 

1215
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,390
because of a uh DM conversation with
someone named the T- Mob Gaming 2 was

1216
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:04,400
someone named the T- Mob Gaming 2 was
 

1217
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,390
someone named the T- Mob Gaming 2 was
apparently saying that somebody by the

1218
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:06,400
apparently saying that somebody by the
 

1219
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,510
apparently saying that somebody by the
names of Tails channel was claiming that

1220
00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:09,520
names of Tails channel was claiming that
 

1221
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,190
names of Tails channel was claiming that
their brain tumor story was fake and

1222
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:11,200
their brain tumor story was fake and
 

1223
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,390
their brain tumor story was fake and
they were faking brain cancer. And

1224
00:24:13,390 --> 00:24:13,400
they were faking brain cancer. And
 

1225
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,310
they were faking brain cancer. And
somehow this ended up getting back to

1226
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:16,320
somehow this ended up getting back to
 

1227
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,669
somehow this ended up getting back to
you as people accusing you of saying

1228
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:19,679
you as people accusing you of saying
 

1229
00:24:19,679 --> 00:24:22,870
you as people accusing you of saying
that Lizzy faked brain cancer. Like you

1230
00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:22,880
that Lizzy faked brain cancer. Like you
 

1231
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,590
that Lizzy faked brain cancer. Like you
were accusing her of that. So just just

1232
00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:25,600
were accusing her of that. So just just
 

1233
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,310
were accusing her of that. So just just
to set the record, do you believe that

1234
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:28,320
to set the record, do you believe that
 

1235
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,870
to set the record, do you believe that
this person has brain cancer or at least

1236
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:30,880
this person has brain cancer or at least
 

1237
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,669
this person has brain cancer or at least
had brain cancer?

1238
00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:33,679
had brain cancer?
 

1239
00:24:33,679 --> 00:24:36,870
had brain cancer?
Yes, absolutely. Yes. Back in the 90s,

1240
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:36,880
Yes, absolutely. Yes. Back in the 90s,
 

1241
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,830
Yes, absolutely. Yes. Back in the 90s,
100%. She absolutely had it. I have no

1242
00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:39,840
100%. She absolutely had it. I have no
 

1243
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,750
100%. She absolutely had it. I have no
reason to second guessess that or

1244
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:41,760
reason to second guessess that or
 

1245
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,590
reason to second guessess that or
question that. You know, she's not

1246
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:43,600
question that. You know, she's not
 

1247
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,230
question that. You know, she's not
somebody who up until we had our own

1248
00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:46,240
somebody who up until we had our own
 

1249
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,310
somebody who up until we had our own
conflicts. I I even knew her. But no,

1250
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:48,320
conflicts. I I even knew her. But no,
 

1251
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,549
conflicts. I I even knew her. But no,
absolutely she had this and I believe

1252
00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:50,559
absolutely she had this and I believe
 

1253
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:53,269
absolutely she had this and I believe
that and I actually love her story. Like

1254
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:53,279
that and I actually love her story. Like
 

1255
00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:55,190
that and I actually love her story. Like
that's what kind of sucks about all the

1256
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:55,200
that's what kind of sucks about all the
 

1257
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,269
that's what kind of sucks about all the
conflict with her is I I think her story

1258
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:57,279
conflict with her is I I think her story
 

1259
00:24:57,279 --> 00:24:59,430
conflict with her is I I think her story
is incredible. I love her story. It's

1260
00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:59,440
is incredible. I love her story. It's
 

1261
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,669
is incredible. I love her story. It's
very inspiring and you know the way that

1262
00:25:01,669 --> 00:25:01,679
very inspiring and you know the way that
 

1263
00:25:01,679 --> 00:25:05,909
very inspiring and you know the way that
she has utilized it um to do uh like

1264
00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:05,919
she has utilized it um to do uh like
 

1265
00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:07,750
she has utilized it um to do uh like
charity work and stuff. I think that

1266
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:07,760
charity work and stuff. I think that
 

1267
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,669
charity work and stuff. I think that
that's awesome that she has done all of

1268
00:25:09,669 --> 00:25:09,679
that's awesome that she has done all of
 

1269
00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:12,630
that's awesome that she has done all of
that. Yeah. And I mean it's it's kind of

1270
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:12,640
that. Yeah. And I mean it's it's kind of
 

1271
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,350
that. Yeah. And I mean it's it's kind of
cool cuz it's like from what I've come

1272
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:15,360
cool cuz it's like from what I've come
 

1273
00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:16,710
cool cuz it's like from what I've come
to understand of her story just reading

1274
00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:16,720
to understand of her story just reading
 

1275
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,510
to understand of her story just reading
it like the the brain tumor was like

1276
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:19,520
it like the the brain tumor was like
 

1277
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,350
it like the the brain tumor was like
somewhere around her spine, right? So

1278
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:21,360
somewhere around her spine, right? So
 

1279
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,590
somewhere around her spine, right? So
she had to get that removed and it was

1280
00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:23,600
she had to get that removed and it was
 

1281
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,190
she had to get that removed and it was
an invasive surgery that could have left

1282
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:25,200
an invasive surgery that could have left
 

1283
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,669
an invasive surgery that could have left
her like unable to move anything like

1284
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:27,679
her like unable to move anything like
 

1285
00:25:27,679 --> 00:25:29,909
her like unable to move anything like
from the neck down. Um, so it's a

1286
00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:29,919
from the neck down. Um, so it's a
 

1287
00:25:29,919 --> 00:25:31,830
from the neck down. Um, so it's a
miracle that like in her recovery

1288
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:31,840
miracle that like in her recovery
 

1289
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,830
miracle that like in her recovery
phases, like you know, physical therapy

1290
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:33,840
phases, like you know, physical therapy
 

1291
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,830
phases, like you know, physical therapy
so that she can at least regain that,

1292
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:35,840
so that she can at least regain that,
 

1293
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,510
so that she can at least regain that,
um, and having to relearn all that, she

1294
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:37,520
um, and having to relearn all that, she
 

1295
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,149
um, and having to relearn all that, she
turns to video games. And I've seen that

1296
00:25:40,149 --> 00:25:40,159
turns to video games. And I've seen that
 

1297
00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:41,870
turns to video games. And I've seen that
happen a couple times like with

1298
00:25:41,870 --> 00:25:41,880
happen a couple times like with
 

1299
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,230
happen a couple times like with
different disability stories that video

1300
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:44,240
different disability stories that video
 

1301
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,549
different disability stories that video
games do help or at least they they're a

1302
00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:46,559
games do help or at least they they're a
 

1303
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:48,230
games do help or at least they they're a
comfort or something like that. And I

1304
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:48,240
comfort or something like that. And I
 

1305
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,909
comfort or something like that. And I
think that's kind of an amazing thing.

1306
00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:49,919
think that's kind of an amazing thing.
 

1307
00:25:49,919 --> 00:25:52,390
think that's kind of an amazing thing.
So, if it wasn't from apparently you

1308
00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:52,400
So, if it wasn't from apparently you
 

1309
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,990
So, if it wasn't from apparently you
allegedly saying she didn't have brain

1310
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:54,000
allegedly saying she didn't have brain
 

1311
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,350
allegedly saying she didn't have brain
cancer, how did you like first interact

1312
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:57,360
cancer, how did you like first interact
 

1313
00:25:57,360 --> 00:25:59,110
cancer, how did you like first interact
with Lizzie Silva? It wasn't through

1314
00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:59,120
with Lizzie Silva? It wasn't through
 

1315
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:02,230
with Lizzie Silva? It wasn't through
that.

1316
00:26:02,230 --> 00:26:02,240

 

1317
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,630

The first interaction I had with her uh

1318
00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:04,640
The first interaction I had with her uh
 

1319
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,990
The first interaction I had with her uh
was her and I were invited to go to this

1320
00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:08,000
was her and I were invited to go to this
 

1321
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,669
was her and I were invited to go to this
event. It was called Sonic and Sega Fan

1322
00:26:09,669 --> 00:26:09,679
event. It was called Sonic and Sega Fan
 

1323
00:26:09,679 --> 00:26:13,110
event. It was called Sonic and Sega Fan
Jam. And the showrunner Patrick had DM'd

1324
00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:13,120
Jam. And the showrunner Patrick had DM'd
 

1325
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,269
Jam. And the showrunner Patrick had DM'd
me and told me like, "Hey, like I have

1326
00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:15,279
me and told me like, "Hey, like I have
 

1327
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:16,630
me and told me like, "Hey, like I have
this other person who's going to be

1328
00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:16,640
this other person who's going to be
 

1329
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,149
this other person who's going to be
there. She's also going to like have a

1330
00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:18,159
there. She's also going to like have a
 

1331
00:26:18,159 --> 00:26:19,669
there. She's also going to like have a
panel and all this stuff. Her name's

1332
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:19,679
panel and all this stuff. Her name's
 

1333
00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:21,350
panel and all this stuff. Her name's
Lizzie and I feel like you guys would

1334
00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:21,360
Lizzie and I feel like you guys would
 

1335
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:23,430
Lizzie and I feel like you guys would
get along so well, you know, here. Let

1336
00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:23,440
get along so well, you know, here. Let
 

1337
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,950
get along so well, you know, here. Let
me give you her ad. I feel like you guys

1338
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:24,960
me give you her ad. I feel like you guys
 

1339
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,350
me give you her ad. I feel like you guys
could be friends." Uh, I went to her

1340
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:27,360
could be friends." Uh, I went to her
 

1341
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:30,549
could be friends." Uh, I went to her
account and I was blocked and I didn't

1342
00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:30,559
account and I was blocked and I didn't
 

1343
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:32,710
account and I was blocked and I didn't
really have any context as for what was

1344
00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:32,720
really have any context as for what was
 

1345
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,070
really have any context as for what was
going on. Um, so at the time I had

1346
00:26:35,070 --> 00:26:35,080
going on. Um, so at the time I had
 

1347
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,830
going on. Um, so at the time I had
reacted unfortunately publicly. I was a

1348
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:37,840
reacted unfortunately publicly. I was a
 

1349
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,590
reacted unfortunately publicly. I was a
much smaller account at this time so

1350
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:39,600
much smaller account at this time so
 

1351
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,269
much smaller account at this time so
shouldn't have been publicly but I had

1352
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:41,279
shouldn't have been publicly but I had
 

1353
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:44,870
shouldn't have been publicly but I had
reacted to her uh blocking me to which

1354
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:44,880
reacted to her uh blocking me to which
 

1355
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,510
reacted to her uh blocking me to which
she did uh get involved and explain that

1356
00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:47,520
she did uh get involved and explain that
 

1357
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,310
she did uh get involved and explain that
she had blocked me over

1358
00:26:51,310 --> 00:26:51,320
she had blocked me over
 

1359
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,549
she had blocked me over
these uh pretty much interacting with

1360
00:26:55,549 --> 00:26:55,559
these uh pretty much interacting with
 

1361
00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:58,390
these uh pretty much interacting with
her in relation to like conversations

1362
00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:58,400
her in relation to like conversations
 

1363
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,230
her in relation to like conversations
that she had had with like Roger Craig

1364
00:27:00,230 --> 00:27:00,240
that she had had with like Roger Craig
 

1365
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,110
that she had had with like Roger Craig
Smith and like some other like Sonic

1366
00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:03,120
Smith and like some other like Sonic
 

1367
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:04,870
Smith and like some other like Sonic
related news source that at the time I

1368
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:04,880
related news source that at the time I
 

1369
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,510
related news source that at the time I
hadn't heard of. Um, and it kind of just

1370
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:09,520
hadn't heard of. Um, and it kind of just
 

1371
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,669
hadn't heard of. Um, and it kind of just
started this long nearly

1372
00:27:12,669 --> 00:27:12,679
started this long nearly
 

1373
00:27:12,679 --> 00:27:16,470
started this long nearly
10year spat between us where, you know,

1374
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:16,480
10year spat between us where, you know,
 

1375
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,789
10year spat between us where, you know,
I at this time she was accusing me of

1376
00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:18,799
I at this time she was accusing me of
 

1377
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:21,029
I at this time she was accusing me of
this and this was not true. And uh,

1378
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:21,039
this and this was not true. And uh,
 

1379
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:22,789
this and this was not true. And uh,
people tried explaining this wasn't

1380
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:22,799
people tried explaining this wasn't
 

1381
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:24,950
people tried explaining this wasn't
true. She wasn't really having it. After

1382
00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:24,960
true. She wasn't really having it. After
 

1383
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,470
true. She wasn't really having it. After
that original spat, um, I kind of walked

1384
00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:28,480
that original spat, um, I kind of walked
 

1385
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,909
that original spat, um, I kind of walked
away from it like, okay, this was just

1386
00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:29,919
away from it like, okay, this was just
 

1387
00:27:29,919 --> 00:27:31,750
away from it like, okay, this was just
kind of whatever, you know, whatever.

1388
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:31,760
kind of whatever, you know, whatever.
 

1389
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,909
kind of whatever, you know, whatever.
It's not a big deal. Just move on. It

1390
00:27:33,909 --> 00:27:33,919
It's not a big deal. Just move on. It
 

1391
00:27:33,919 --> 00:27:36,950
It's not a big deal. Just move on. It
doesn't matter. Uh, but it did not move

1392
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:36,960
doesn't matter. Uh, but it did not move
 

1393
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,870
doesn't matter. Uh, but it did not move
on and it start, you know, she began

1394
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:38,880
on and it start, you know, she began
 

1395
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,110
on and it start, you know, she began
tweeting things like Emy's trying

1396
00:27:42,110 --> 00:27:42,120
tweeting things like Emy's trying
 

1397
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:45,350
tweeting things like Emy's trying
to replace me in the Sonic community and

1398
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:45,360
to replace me in the Sonic community and
 

1399
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,909
to replace me in the Sonic community and
she's copying my Sonic cosplay and she's

1400
00:27:48,909 --> 00:27:48,919
she's copying my Sonic cosplay and she's
 

1401
00:27:48,919 --> 00:27:51,590
she's copying my Sonic cosplay and she's
purposely commissioning art of her like

1402
00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:51,600
purposely commissioning art of her like
 

1403
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,669
purposely commissioning art of her like
OC with Sonic specifically to make me

1404
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:53,679
OC with Sonic specifically to make me
 

1405
00:27:53,679 --> 00:27:56,389
OC with Sonic specifically to make me
upset and she was reaching out to

1406
00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:56,399
upset and she was reaching out to
 

1407
00:27:56,399 --> 00:27:58,149
upset and she was reaching out to
people. She was reaching out to like my

1408
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:58,159
people. She was reaching out to like my
 

1409
00:27:58,159 --> 00:28:00,149
people. She was reaching out to like my
friends. She was reaching out to like

1410
00:28:00,149 --> 00:28:00,159
friends. She was reaching out to like
 

1411
00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:01,669
friends. She was reaching out to like
different artists in the community

1412
00:28:01,669 --> 00:28:01,679
different artists in the community
 

1413
00:28:01,679 --> 00:28:03,669
different artists in the community
saying, "Don't accept commissions from

1414
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:03,679
saying, "Don't accept commissions from
 

1415
00:28:03,679 --> 00:28:05,029
saying, "Don't accept commissions from
her because she's only doing these

1416
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:05,039
her because she's only doing these
 

1417
00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:06,950
her because she's only doing these
commissions to hurt you or to hurt me

1418
00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:06,960
commissions to hurt you or to hurt me
 

1419
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,590
commissions to hurt you or to hurt me
and make me upset." And she began

1420
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:09,600
and make me upset." And she began
 

1421
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,470
and make me upset." And she began
reaching out even to Sega. she had

1422
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:12,480
reaching out even to Sega. she had
 

1423
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,389
reaching out even to Sega. she had
reached out to Sega um like asking for

1424
00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:16,399
reached out to Sega um like asking for
 

1425
00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:19,669
reached out to Sega um like asking for
me and Tails channel uh Matt who at this

1426
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:19,679
me and Tails channel uh Matt who at this
 

1427
00:28:19,679 --> 00:28:22,310
me and Tails channel uh Matt who at this
time actually became an employee of Sega

1428
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:22,320
time actually became an employee of Sega
 

1429
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,870
time actually became an employee of Sega
uh asking for us to have like our

1430
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:24,880
uh asking for us to have like our
 

1431
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,470
uh asking for us to have like our
tickets removed from this Sonic 25th

1432
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:28,480
tickets removed from this Sonic 25th
 

1433
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,909
tickets removed from this Sonic 25th
anniversary party and it just kept

1434
00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:31,919
anniversary party and it just kept
 

1435
00:28:31,919 --> 00:28:33,789
anniversary party and it just kept
getting worse.

1436
00:28:33,789 --> 00:28:33,799
getting worse.
 

1437
00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:38,710
getting worse.
Um, eventually it led to uh Lizzy

1438
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:38,720
Um, eventually it led to uh Lizzy
 

1439
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,590
Um, eventually it led to uh Lizzy
actually DMing Mike Pollic and making a

1440
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:41,600
actually DMing Mike Pollic and making a
 

1441
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,230
actually DMing Mike Pollic and making a
threat in his DMs to Matt saying that

1442
00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:44,240
threat in his DMs to Matt saying that
 

1443
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,269
threat in his DMs to Matt saying that
she wanted to put a bullet in his head.

1444
00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:47,279
she wanted to put a bullet in his head.
 

1445
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:50,230
she wanted to put a bullet in his head.
And because of that, Mike took that to

1446
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:50,240
And because of that, Mike took that to
 

1447
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,710
And because of that, Mike took that to
Sega and said, "Hey, this is kind of a

1448
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:52,720
Sega and said, "Hey, this is kind of a
 

1449
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,789
Sega and said, "Hey, this is kind of a
big deal." And she had her own ticket

1450
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:56,799
big deal." And she had her own ticket
 

1451
00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:59,110
big deal." And she had her own ticket
pulled. Matt couldn't go because they

1452
00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:59,120
pulled. Matt couldn't go because they
 

1453
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,710
pulled. Matt couldn't go because they
didn't want anything bad to happen to

1454
00:29:00,710 --> 00:29:00,720
didn't want anything bad to happen to
 

1455
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,789
didn't want anything bad to happen to
him. eventually he was let go because

1456
00:29:02,789 --> 00:29:02,799
him. eventually he was let go because
 

1457
00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:05,190
him. eventually he was let go because
they didn't want something horrible to

1458
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:05,200
they didn't want something horrible to
 

1459
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,789
they didn't want something horrible to
happen to him and it was like a

1460
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:06,799
happen to him and it was like a
 

1461
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:10,669
happen to him and it was like a
liability issue and it's it's just kind

1462
00:29:10,669 --> 00:29:10,679
liability issue and it's it's just kind
 

1463
00:29:10,679 --> 00:29:13,269
liability issue and it's it's just kind
of ex I don't even know how to it's just

1464
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:13,279
of ex I don't even know how to it's just
 

1465
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,110
of ex I don't even know how to it's just
tumbled and it's just gotten bigger and

1466
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:15,120
tumbled and it's just gotten bigger and
 

1467
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,389
tumbled and it's just gotten bigger and
bigger and bigger. Um, and it's just

1468
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:18,399
bigger and bigger. Um, and it's just
 

1469
00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:21,909
bigger and bigger. Um, and it's just
been mostly one-sided. Me just, you

1470
00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:21,919
been mostly one-sided. Me just, you
 

1471
00:29:21,919 --> 00:29:23,750
been mostly one-sided. Me just, you
know, at first trying to defend myself,

1472
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:23,760
know, at first trying to defend myself,
 

1473
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,269
know, at first trying to defend myself,
you know, saying, "No, I didn't do these

1474
00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:25,279
you know, saying, "No, I didn't do these
 

1475
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:27,269
you know, saying, "No, I didn't do these
things." And, uh, you know, let me know

1476
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:27,279
things." And, uh, you know, let me know
 

1477
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:29,830
things." And, uh, you know, let me know
if if she's spreading stuff. And people

1478
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:29,840
if if she's spreading stuff. And people
 

1479
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,470
if if she's spreading stuff. And people
would ask me like, "Why does she hate

1480
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:32,480
would ask me like, "Why does she hate
 

1481
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,789
would ask me like, "Why does she hate
you?" And I I didn't really know. All I

1482
00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:34,799
you?" And I I didn't really know. All I
 

1483
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:36,710
you?" And I I didn't really know. All I
could really pull from was, you know,

1484
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:36,720
could really pull from was, you know,
 

1485
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,669
could really pull from was, you know,
the post that she was making. And uh it

1486
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:39,679
the post that she was making. And uh it
 

1487
00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:41,710
the post that she was making. And uh it
was just this

1488
00:29:41,710 --> 00:29:41,720
was just this
 

1489
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,389
was just this
very huge mostly one-sided situation.

1490
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:46,399
very huge mostly one-sided situation.
 

1491
00:29:46,399 --> 00:29:48,310
very huge mostly one-sided situation.
And it eventually got to a point where I

1492
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:48,320
And it eventually got to a point where I
 

1493
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,590
And it eventually got to a point where I
I had moved to Burbank and eventually

1494
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:51,600
I had moved to Burbank and eventually
 

1495
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,710
I had moved to Burbank and eventually
she began uh she had doxed my

1496
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:54,720
she began uh she had doxed my
 

1497
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,789
she began uh she had doxed my
information and she began sending the

1498
00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:56,799
information and she began sending the
 

1499
00:29:56,799 --> 00:29:58,149
information and she began sending the
police to my house and sending

1500
00:29:58,149 --> 00:29:58,159
police to my house and sending
 

1501
00:29:58,159 --> 00:30:00,630
police to my house and sending
firefighters to my house. And this had

1502
00:30:00,630 --> 00:30:00,640
firefighters to my house. And this had
 

1503
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,389
firefighters to my house. And this had
happened a couple different times. And

1504
00:30:03,389 --> 00:30:03,399
happened a couple different times. And
 

1505
00:30:03,399 --> 00:30:06,230
happened a couple different times. And
so then this led to a whole legal

1506
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:06,240
so then this led to a whole legal
 

1507
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,310
so then this led to a whole legal
situation um where I tried to get a uh

1508
00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:10,320
situation um where I tried to get a uh
 

1509
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,310
situation um where I tried to get a uh
protection order from her, like a um a

1510
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:12,320
protection order from her, like a um a
 

1511
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,070
protection order from her, like a um a
restraining order because I was

1512
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:14,080
restraining order because I was
 

1513
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,750
restraining order because I was
concerned that she had my address and

1514
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:15,760
concerned that she had my address and
 

1515
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,750
concerned that she had my address and
she was using it to send the police to

1516
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:17,760
she was using it to send the police to
 

1517
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,990
she was using it to send the police to
my house. And even at one point she was

1518
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:20,000
my house. And even at one point she was
 

1519
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,990
my house. And even at one point she was
sending letters in the mail to me. Um we

1520
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:24,000
sending letters in the mail to me. Um we
 

1521
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,310
sending letters in the mail to me. Um we
attempted to go to court. Um, but

1522
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:26,320
attempted to go to court. Um, but
 

1523
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,230
attempted to go to court. Um, but
unfortunately just because, you know, we

1524
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:28,240
unfortunately just because, you know, we
 

1525
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,389
unfortunately just because, you know, we
live in different states, it just wasn't

1526
00:30:30,389 --> 00:30:30,399
live in different states, it just wasn't
 

1527
00:30:30,399 --> 00:30:32,110
live in different states, it just wasn't
something that was taken all too

1528
00:30:32,110 --> 00:30:32,120
something that was taken all too
 

1529
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,549
something that was taken all too
seriously. So that got kind of thrown

1530
00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:34,559
seriously. So that got kind of thrown
 

1531
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:36,070
seriously. So that got kind of thrown
out and that didn't, you know, that

1532
00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:36,080
out and that didn't, you know, that
 

1533
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,830
out and that didn't, you know, that
didn't go anywhere. So eventually me and

1534
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:37,840
didn't go anywhere. So eventually me and
 

1535
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,310
didn't go anywhere. So eventually me and
my family had to move so we could get

1536
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:40,320
my family had to move so we could get
 

1537
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,750
my family had to move so we could get
away from it because we didn't know what

1538
00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:41,760
away from it because we didn't know what
 

1539
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,310
away from it because we didn't know what
else to do. I apologize. I realize I'm

1540
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:44,320
else to do. I apologize. I realize I'm
 

1541
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,909
else to do. I apologize. I realize I'm
kind of rambling and I don't know if I

1542
00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:45,919
kind of rambling and I don't know if I
 

1543
00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:48,230
kind of rambling and I don't know if I
skipped any any parts of this. No, it's

1544
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:48,240
skipped any any parts of this. No, it's
 

1545
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,350
skipped any any parts of this. No, it's
fine. I was just going to ask like

1546
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:49,360
fine. I was just going to ask like
 

1547
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,950
fine. I was just going to ask like
clarifying questions like let you just

1548
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:50,960
clarifying questions like let you just
 

1549
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,510
clarifying questions like let you just
kind of go off and then just ask like

1550
00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:53,520
kind of go off and then just ask like
 

1551
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,110
kind of go off and then just ask like
detailed stuff about what you just said.

1552
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:55,120
detailed stuff about what you just said.
 

1553
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,510
detailed stuff about what you just said.
So don't worry about it. Yeah. Go ahead.

1554
00:30:57,510 --> 00:30:57,520
So don't worry about it. Yeah. Go ahead.
 

1555
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,190
So don't worry about it. Yeah. Go ahead.
Go ahead. If there's any anything

1556
00:30:59,190 --> 00:30:59,200
Go ahead. If there's any anything
 

1557
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,669
Go ahead. If there's any anything
specifically, I I just Yes, I read a

1558
00:31:01,669 --> 00:31:01,679
specifically, I I just Yes, I read a
 

1559
00:31:01,679 --> 00:31:04,389
specifically, I I just Yes, I read a
little bit. So So from the the whole

1560
00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:04,399
little bit. So So from the the whole
 

1561
00:31:04,399 --> 00:31:06,870
little bit. So So from the the whole
reason why you got even accused like it

1562
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:06,880
reason why you got even accused like it
 

1563
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,310
reason why you got even accused like it
came back to you that you were the one

1564
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:08,320
came back to you that you were the one
 

1565
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,990
came back to you that you were the one
that was saying that she faked brain

1566
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:10,000
that was saying that she faked brain
 

1567
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,590
that was saying that she faked brain
cancer was because of this guy Tails

1568
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:11,600
cancer was because of this guy Tails
 

1569
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,430
cancer was because of this guy Tails
channel. Now you say that he's like a Is

1570
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:13,440
channel. Now you say that he's like a Is
 

1571
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,870
channel. Now you say that he's like a Is
he like a friend of yours, this Matt

1572
00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:14,880
he like a friend of yours, this Matt
 

1573
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,990
he like a friend of yours, this Matt
guy, or did you just know him because

1574
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:16,000
guy, or did you just know him because
 

1575
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,950
guy, or did you just know him because
you guys both work with Sega?

1576
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:18,960
you guys both work with Sega?
 

1577
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,870
you guys both work with Sega?
Uh both. I mean, yeah, we are friends

1578
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:20,880
Uh both. I mean, yeah, we are friends
 

1579
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,269
Uh both. I mean, yeah, we are friends
and also we're both working with Sega,

1580
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:23,279
and also we're both working with Sega,
 

1581
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,830
and also we're both working with Sega,
right? Right. So, as far as you're

1582
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:25,840
right? Right. So, as far as you're
 

1583
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,750
right? Right. So, as far as you're
aware, because you I'm not asking you to

1584
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:27,760
aware, because you I'm not asking you to
 

1585
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,750
aware, because you I'm not asking you to
be to answer on behalf of Matt because I

1586
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:29,760
be to answer on behalf of Matt because I
 

1587
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,190
be to answer on behalf of Matt because I
don't know him personally. I haven't

1588
00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:31,200
don't know him personally. I haven't
 

1589
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,590
don't know him personally. I haven't
spoken to him. Did Ta did this Matt guy

1590
00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:33,600
spoken to him. Did Ta did this Matt guy
 

1591
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,310
spoken to him. Did Ta did this Matt guy
ever like say she faked brain cancer at

1592
00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:36,320
ever like say she faked brain cancer at
 

1593
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,389
ever like say she faked brain cancer at
any point?

1594
00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:38,399
any point?
 

1595
00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:41,110
any point?
Nope, not at all. And it is a thing

1596
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:41,120
Nope, not at all. And it is a thing
 

1597
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,509
Nope, not at all. And it is a thing
where Matt has attempted to try to talk

1598
00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:43,519
where Matt has attempted to try to talk
 

1599
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:45,909
where Matt has attempted to try to talk
talk with her and explain things to her

1600
00:31:45,909 --> 00:31:45,919
talk with her and explain things to her
 

1601
00:31:45,919 --> 00:31:48,870
talk with her and explain things to her
and like just like we both have we both

1602
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:48,880
and like just like we both have we both
 

1603
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,789
and like just like we both have we both
have attempted to try to reason with her

1604
00:31:50,789 --> 00:31:50,799
have attempted to try to reason with her
 

1605
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:52,710
have attempted to try to reason with her
and no, this did not happen. And this

1606
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:52,720
and no, this did not happen. And this
 

1607
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,269
and no, this did not happen. And this
was information that just random people

1608
00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:55,279
was information that just random people
 

1609
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:57,750
was information that just random people
were feeding to her and then it just

1610
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:57,760
were feeding to her and then it just
 

1611
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,430
were feeding to her and then it just
made her upset. But none of this was

1612
00:31:59,430 --> 00:31:59,440
made her upset. But none of this was
 

1613
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,350
made her upset. But none of this was
based off of anything. Matt and I have

1614
00:32:01,350 --> 00:32:01,360
based off of anything. Matt and I have
 

1615
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,029
based off of anything. Matt and I have
had several conversations about it and

1616
00:32:03,029 --> 00:32:03,039
had several conversations about it and
 

1617
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:06,549
had several conversations about it and
no, he did not feel that way. Right. Um

1618
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:06,559
no, he did not feel that way. Right. Um
 

1619
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:08,230
no, he did not feel that way. Right. Um
I did have something that I just wanted

1620
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:08,240
I did have something that I just wanted
 

1621
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,669
I did have something that I just wanted
to clarify and ask you about. So Lizzie

1622
00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:11,679
to clarify and ask you about. So Lizzie
 

1623
00:32:11,679 --> 00:32:14,710
to clarify and ask you about. So Lizzie
tried to reach out to somebody. I'm not

1624
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:14,720
tried to reach out to somebody. I'm not
 

1625
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,230
tried to reach out to somebody. I'm not
sure who this guy is, if he's in

1626
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:16,240
sure who this guy is, if he's in
 

1627
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,149
sure who this guy is, if he's in
relation to Sega or not, but they posted

1628
00:32:18,149 --> 00:32:18,159
relation to Sega or not, but they posted
 

1629
00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:19,669
relation to Sega or not, but they posted
an email from this guy named Gerald

1630
00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:19,679
an email from this guy named Gerald
 

1631
00:32:19,679 --> 00:32:22,549
an email from this guy named Gerald
Hall. Basically saying that you got into

1632
00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:22,559
Hall. Basically saying that you got into
 

1633
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:24,710
Hall. Basically saying that you got into
everyone's heads and ruined her because

1634
00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:24,720
everyone's heads and ruined her because
 

1635
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,190
everyone's heads and ruined her because
they were going to have uh her be one of

1636
00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:27,200
they were going to have uh her be one of
 

1637
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,870
they were going to have uh her be one of
the faces of the Sonic fandom or

1638
00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:28,880
the faces of the Sonic fandom or
 

1639
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,950
the faces of the Sonic fandom or
something like that. Uh basically, I

1640
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:30,960
something like that. Uh basically, I
 

1641
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,630
something like that. Uh basically, I
guess confirming what Lizzie had been

1642
00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:32,640
guess confirming what Lizzie had been
 

1643
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,230
guess confirming what Lizzie had been
accusing you of anyway, which is just

1644
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:34,240
accusing you of anyway, which is just
 

1645
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,269
accusing you of anyway, which is just
kind of like, you

1646
00:32:36,269 --> 00:32:36,279
kind of like, you
 

1647
00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:39,029
kind of like, you
know, trying to replace her in the Sonic

1648
00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:39,039
know, trying to replace her in the Sonic
 

1649
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:41,509
know, trying to replace her in the Sonic
community or whatever. Is this Gerald

1650
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:41,519
community or whatever. Is this Gerald
 

1651
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:43,830
community or whatever. Is this Gerald
Hall guy someone you know? Is he part of

1652
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:43,840
Hall guy someone you know? Is he part of
 

1653
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,230
Hall guy someone you know? Is he part of
Sega or something? Like how how does he

1654
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:46,240
Sega or something? Like how how does he
 

1655
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,230
Sega or something? Like how how does he
know this information? I guess

1656
00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:50,240
know this information? I guess
 

1657
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,630
know this information? I guess
all that information become public. The

1658
00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:52,640
all that information become public. The
 

1659
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,310
all that information become public. The
first thing I did was reach out to my

1660
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:54,320
first thing I did was reach out to my
 

1661
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,310
first thing I did was reach out to my
friends over at Sega and asked who is

1662
00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:56,320
friends over at Sega and asked who is
 

1663
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,789
friends over at Sega and asked who is
this guy? Like I do you guys know him?

1664
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:58,799
this guy? Like I do you guys know him?
 

1665
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:01,509
this guy? Like I do you guys know him?
And literally none of them knew who he

1666
00:33:01,509 --> 00:33:01,519
And literally none of them knew who he
 

1667
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:03,830
And literally none of them knew who he
was. They had no idea who this guy was.

1668
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:03,840
was. They had no idea who this guy was.
 

1669
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,430
was. They had no idea who this guy was.
They could not confirm any kind of

1670
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:05,440
They could not confirm any kind of
 

1671
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,909
They could not confirm any kind of
relationship with this guy. And no, for

1672
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:07,919
relationship with this guy. And no, for
 

1673
00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:09,830
relationship with this guy. And no, for
the longest time I didn't know who this

1674
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:09,840
the longest time I didn't know who this
 

1675
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,230
the longest time I didn't know who this
guy was. I tried looking him up and you

1676
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:12,240
guy was. I tried looking him up and you
 

1677
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,149
guy was. I tried looking him up and you
know it seems like he has some stuff

1678
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:14,159
know it seems like he has some stuff
 

1679
00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:16,789
know it seems like he has some stuff
that he's done like in the industry but

1680
00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:16,799
that he's done like in the industry but
 

1681
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:19,269
that he's done like in the industry but
none of it is related to Sega.

1682
00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:19,279
none of it is related to Sega.
 

1683
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:21,830
none of it is related to Sega.
Eventually at some point this Gerald guy

1684
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:21,840
Eventually at some point this Gerald guy
 

1685
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,710
Eventually at some point this Gerald guy
actually did email me because he became

1686
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:24,720
actually did email me because he became
 

1687
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,590
actually did email me because he became
aware of Lizzy posting these emails and

1688
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:27,600
aware of Lizzy posting these emails and
 

1689
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,990
aware of Lizzy posting these emails and
told me that he was going to potentially

1690
00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:30,000
told me that he was going to potentially
 

1691
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,549
told me that he was going to potentially
take legal action against Lizzie because

1692
00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:32,559
take legal action against Lizzie because
 

1693
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:35,269
take legal action against Lizzie because
he at least to me implied that these

1694
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:35,279
he at least to me implied that these
 

1695
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:37,509
he at least to me implied that these
were not like these were not legitimate

1696
00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:37,519
were not like these were not legitimate
 

1697
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:40,070
were not like these were not legitimate
emails. I can't really confirm or deny

1698
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:40,080
emails. I can't really confirm or deny
 

1699
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,310
emails. I can't really confirm or deny
that. I don't know this guy personally.

1700
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:42,320
that. I don't know this guy personally.
 

1701
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,389
that. I don't know this guy personally.
Um, but that's all I can really speak on

1702
00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:44,399
Um, but that's all I can really speak on
 

1703
00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:46,789
Um, but that's all I can really speak on
is that yeah, I don't there's no

1704
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:46,799
is that yeah, I don't there's no
 

1705
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:49,669
is that yeah, I don't there's no
relation to Sega and he is denying this

1706
00:33:49,669 --> 00:33:49,679
relation to Sega and he is denying this
 

1707
00:33:49,679 --> 00:33:53,669
relation to Sega and he is denying this
ever being said. Right. And as for I

1708
00:33:53,669 --> 00:33:53,679
ever being said. Right. And as for I
 

1709
00:33:53,679 --> 00:33:55,029
ever being said. Right. And as for I
think the other thing that people have

1710
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:55,039
think the other thing that people have
 

1711
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:56,389
think the other thing that people have
accused you of in terms of this whole

1712
00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:56,399
accused you of in terms of this whole
 

1713
00:33:56,399 --> 00:33:58,470
accused you of in terms of this whole
Lizzy spat is that they say that like

1714
00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:58,480
Lizzy spat is that they say that like
 

1715
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,029
Lizzy spat is that they say that like
you have a pretty toxic fan base, right?

1716
00:34:01,029 --> 00:34:01,039
you have a pretty toxic fan base, right?
 

1717
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,029
you have a pretty toxic fan base, right?
I think this is something that people

1718
00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:03,039
I think this is something that people
 

1719
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:04,870
I think this is something that people
have pointed to is like this is the

1720
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:04,880
have pointed to is like this is the
 

1721
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,350
have pointed to is like this is the
harassment that she's getting. um like

1722
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:07,360
harassment that she's getting. um like
 

1723
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,030
harassment that she's getting. um like
tweets like people saying that they're

1724
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:09,040
tweets like people saying that they're
 

1725
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,629
tweets like people saying that they're
going to beat her ass, that she should

1726
00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:10,639
going to beat her ass, that she should
 

1727
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:12,669
going to beat her ass, that she should
have uh gotten cancer again or

1728
00:34:12,669 --> 00:34:12,679
have uh gotten cancer again or
 

1729
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:15,270
have uh gotten cancer again or
something. In terms of like anybody

1730
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:15,280
something. In terms of like anybody
 

1731
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,389
something. In terms of like anybody
trying to defend you by being this

1732
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:18,399
trying to defend you by being this
 

1733
00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:20,950
trying to defend you by being this
hostile and cruel, uh did you have

1734
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:20,960
hostile and cruel, uh did you have
 

1735
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,430
hostile and cruel, uh did you have
anything in regards to like, you know,

1736
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:23,440
anything in regards to like, you know,
 

1737
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,829
anything in regards to like, you know,
what you think about maybe toxic people

1738
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:25,839
what you think about maybe toxic people
 

1739
00:34:25,839 --> 00:34:27,510
what you think about maybe toxic people
in your fan base or how people have

1740
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:27,520
in your fan base or how people have
 

1741
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,190
in your fan base or how people have
chosen to respond with vitrial?

1742
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:31,200
chosen to respond with vitrial?
 

1743
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,950
chosen to respond with vitrial?
Yes, absolutely. And I hate it. I

1744
00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:32,960
Yes, absolutely. And I hate it. I
 

1745
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,069
Yes, absolutely. And I hate it. I
absolutely cannot stand it. um whenever

1746
00:34:36,069 --> 00:34:36,079
absolutely cannot stand it. um whenever
 

1747
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:39,190
absolutely cannot stand it. um whenever
I see it, you know, as much as because

1748
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:39,200
I see it, you know, as much as because
 

1749
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,389
I see it, you know, as much as because
obviously I'm not going to see all of

1750
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:40,399
obviously I'm not going to see all of
 

1751
00:34:40,399 --> 00:34:42,950
obviously I'm not going to see all of
it, but whenever I can and I do see it,

1752
00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:42,960
it, but whenever I can and I do see it,
 

1753
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,750
it, but whenever I can and I do see it,
I do respond and tell them, "Do not say

1754
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:45,760
I do respond and tell them, "Do not say
 

1755
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,750
I do respond and tell them, "Do not say
these things." Like, absolutely not. I

1756
00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:47,760
these things." Like, absolutely not. I
 

1757
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,310
these things." Like, absolutely not. I
have seen some of the worst things said

1758
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:50,320
have seen some of the worst things said
 

1759
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,030
have seen some of the worst things said
to her. And I look, I get it. These are

1760
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:53,040
to her. And I look, I get it. These are
 

1761
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,710
to her. And I look, I get it. These are
people who are trying to defend somebody

1762
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:54,720
people who are trying to defend somebody
 

1763
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:57,349
people who are trying to defend somebody
that they are a fan of or they care for.

1764
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:57,359
that they are a fan of or they care for.
 

1765
00:34:57,359 --> 00:35:00,630
that they are a fan of or they care for.
And I I I can get that. But it helps

1766
00:35:00,630 --> 00:35:00,640
And I I I can get that. But it helps
 

1767
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,550
And I I I can get that. But it helps
literally

1768
00:35:01,550 --> 00:35:01,560
literally
 

1769
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,310
literally
nobody treating somebody like this. You

1770
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:04,320
nobody treating somebody like this. You
 

1771
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,750
nobody treating somebody like this. You
know, Lizzy, I don't back up any of the

1772
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:07,760
know, Lizzy, I don't back up any of the
 

1773
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,190
know, Lizzy, I don't back up any of the
stuff that she has caused for me. I

1774
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:09,200
stuff that she has caused for me. I
 

1775
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,790
stuff that she has caused for me. I
don't back up any I don't I will not

1776
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:10,800
don't back up any I don't I will not
 

1777
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,109
don't back up any I don't I will not
defend her actions towards me, but

1778
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:13,119
defend her actions towards me, but
 

1779
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:14,790
defend her actions towards me, but
nobody should be treated like that. She

1780
00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:14,800
nobody should be treated like that. She
 

1781
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,109
nobody should be treated like that. She
is a human and she has undergone a lot

1782
00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:17,119
is a human and she has undergone a lot
 

1783
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:19,270
is a human and she has undergone a lot
of things and that I think needs to be

1784
00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:19,280
of things and that I think needs to be
 

1785
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,310
of things and that I think needs to be
kept in mind. Right. So, let's talk

1786
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:22,320
kept in mind. Right. So, let's talk
 

1787
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,710
kept in mind. Right. So, let's talk
about the phone number. So, I I know

1788
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:24,720
about the phone number. So, I I know
 

1789
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:26,150
about the phone number. So, I I know
that you said that she had docked your

1790
00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:26,160
that you said that she had docked your
 

1791
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,430
that you said that she had docked your
information. And that's why one of the

1792
00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:27,440
information. And that's why one of the
 

1793
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,349
information. And that's why one of the
reasons why you had to move. Um, but

1794
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:29,359
reasons why you had to move. Um, but
 

1795
00:35:29,359 --> 00:35:31,270
reasons why you had to move. Um, but
she's also been saying that you were

1796
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:31,280
she's also been saying that you were
 

1797
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,030
she's also been saying that you were
equally doxing her back by getting her

1798
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:33,040
equally doxing her back by getting her
 

1799
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,190
equally doxing her back by getting her
phone number and trying to call her. Um,

1800
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:35,200
phone number and trying to call her. Um,
 

1801
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,710
phone number and trying to call her. Um,
how exactly did that play out?

1802
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:38,720
how exactly did that play out?
 

1803
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:42,150
how exactly did that play out?
Okay. Yeah. Basically, when the police

1804
00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:42,160
Okay. Yeah. Basically, when the police
 

1805
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,829
Okay. Yeah. Basically, when the police
showed up to the house, so there was

1806
00:35:43,829 --> 00:35:43,839
showed up to the house, so there was
 

1807
00:35:43,839 --> 00:35:46,550
showed up to the house, so there was
this was three different times. Mhm. Um,

1808
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:46,560
this was three different times. Mhm. Um,
 

1809
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,270
this was three different times. Mhm. Um,
so the first time when this happened,

1810
00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:49,280
so the first time when this happened,
 

1811
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,190
so the first time when this happened,
they we tried calling the police station

1812
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:51,200
they we tried calling the police station
 

1813
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,710
they we tried calling the police station
and they were not able to like confirm

1814
00:35:53,710 --> 00:35:53,720
and they were not able to like confirm
 

1815
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:56,950
and they were not able to like confirm
100% like where this was coming from.

1816
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:56,960
100% like where this was coming from.
 

1817
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,470
100% like where this was coming from.
However, the second time uh they since

1818
00:36:00,470 --> 00:36:00,480
However, the second time uh they since
 

1819
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,870
However, the second time uh they since
this went through the fire station, I

1820
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:02,880
this went through the fire station, I
 

1821
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,349
this went through the fire station, I
called them and this time they actually

1822
00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:05,359
called them and this time they actually
 

1823
00:36:05,359 --> 00:36:07,510
called them and this time they actually
provided me with the number. I explained

1824
00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:07,520
provided me with the number. I explained
 

1825
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,030
provided me with the number. I explained
this has now happened a few different

1826
00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:09,040
this has now happened a few different
 

1827
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,950
this has now happened a few different
times and I look, they're claiming to be

1828
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:12,960
times and I look, they're claiming to be
 

1829
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,870
times and I look, they're claiming to be
some kind of fan online. I want to know

1830
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:14,880
some kind of fan online. I want to know
 

1831
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,270
some kind of fan online. I want to know
who has my number and who keeps doing

1832
00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:17,280
who has my number and who keeps doing
 

1833
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,589
who has my number and who keeps doing
this. And luckily they provided the

1834
00:36:19,589 --> 00:36:19,599
this. And luckily they provided the
 

1835
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:21,109
this. And luckily they provided the
number the second time from the fire

1836
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:21,119
number the second time from the fire
 

1837
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:23,589
number the second time from the fire
station. So they gave me the number of

1838
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:23,599
station. So they gave me the number of
 

1839
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:25,270
station. So they gave me the number of
we don't know who it is. This is just

1840
00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:25,280
we don't know who it is. This is just
 

1841
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,750
we don't know who it is. This is just
the number that they called from. And so

1842
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:27,760
the number that they called from. And so
 

1843
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,470
the number that they called from. And so
I went into my it was like a small group

1844
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:30,480
I went into my it was like a small group
 

1845
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,390
I went into my it was like a small group
chat with my friends within one of my

1846
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:32,400
chat with my friends within one of my
 

1847
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,390
chat with my friends within one of my
servers and I told them what was going

1848
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:34,400
servers and I told them what was going
 

1849
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,870
servers and I told them what was going
on. Like hey like the police this is the

1850
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:36,880
on. Like hey like the police this is the
 

1851
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,069
on. Like hey like the police this is the
second time this has happened. Like

1852
00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:38,079
second time this has happened. Like
 

1853
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:40,310
second time this has happened. Like
they're they're at my house again and

1854
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:40,320
they're they're at my house again and
 

1855
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,430
they're they're at my house again and
I'm going to try to figure out what's

1856
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:41,440
I'm going to try to figure out what's
 

1857
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,270
I'm going to try to figure out what's
going on. All of my friends are reacting

1858
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:43,280
going on. All of my friends are reacting
 

1859
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,630
going on. All of my friends are reacting
going, "Oh my god, like this is so

1860
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:44,640
going, "Oh my god, like this is so
 

1861
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,190
going, "Oh my god, like this is so
scary." And after I got the number, I

1862
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:47,200
scary." And after I got the number, I
 

1863
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,069
scary." And after I got the number, I
put that in the small group chat with my

1864
00:36:49,069 --> 00:36:49,079
put that in the small group chat with my
 

1865
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:52,390
put that in the small group chat with my
friends. And then my friend who then got

1866
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:52,400
friends. And then my friend who then got
 

1867
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,310
friends. And then my friend who then got
that called the number so we could try

1868
00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:54,320
that called the number so we could try
 

1869
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,390
that called the number so we could try
to figure out who it was because at this

1870
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:56,400
to figure out who it was because at this
 

1871
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,310
to figure out who it was because at this
point we did not know who this was. We

1872
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:58,320
point we did not know who this was. We
 

1873
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,550
point we did not know who this was. We
tried looking it up online to see if

1874
00:37:00,550 --> 00:37:00,560
tried looking it up online to see if
 

1875
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,510
tried looking it up online to see if
anything had come up. So nothing really

1876
00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:03,520
anything had come up. So nothing really
 

1877
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,030
anything had come up. So nothing really
terribly helpful came up when we were

1878
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:05,040
terribly helpful came up when we were
 

1879
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,710
terribly helpful came up when we were
looking it up. However, when we called

1880
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:06,720
looking it up. However, when we called
 

1881
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:10,150
looking it up. However, when we called
it about 30 minutes later, Lizzie then

1882
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:10,160
it about 30 minutes later, Lizzie then
 

1883
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,510
it about 30 minutes later, Lizzie then
DM'd my friend who called her uh on

1884
00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:13,520
DM'd my friend who called her uh on
 

1885
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,589
DM'd my friend who called her uh on
Twitter and said, "Who are you and why

1886
00:37:15,589 --> 00:37:15,599
Twitter and said, "Who are you and why
 

1887
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:18,710
Twitter and said, "Who are you and why
did you call me?" Confirming that it was

1888
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:18,720
did you call me?" Confirming that it was
 

1889
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:20,030
did you call me?" Confirming that it was
her. And we're like,

1890
00:37:20,030 --> 00:37:20,040
her. And we're like,
 

1891
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,870
her. And we're like,
"Oh, okay. I Yeah, I guess this was

1892
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:22,880
"Oh, okay. I Yeah, I guess this was
 

1893
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,190
"Oh, okay. I Yeah, I guess this was
Lizzy." So, that's that's how we were

1894
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:25,200
Lizzy." So, that's that's how we were
 

1895
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,990
Lizzy." So, that's that's how we were
able to find this out. Let's talk about

1896
00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:28,000
able to find this out. Let's talk about
 

1897
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,710
able to find this out. Let's talk about
court real quick. Um because the the

1898
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:30,720
court real quick. Um because the the
 

1899
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:33,349
court real quick. Um because the the
transcript is available online. I I

1900
00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:33,359
transcript is available online. I I
 

1901
00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:36,069
transcript is available online. I I
mean, I've seen most of it. It's, you

1902
00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:36,079
mean, I've seen most of it. It's, you
 

1903
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:38,230
mean, I've seen most of it. It's, you
know, something a downloadable PB PDF,

1904
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:38,240
know, something a downloadable PB PDF,
 

1905
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:40,630
know, something a downloadable PB PDF,
but also it's been re-uploaded and like

1906
00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:40,640
but also it's been re-uploaded and like
 

1907
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,349
but also it's been re-uploaded and like
screenshots and stuff. Um, what was that

1908
00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:43,359
screenshots and stuff. Um, what was that
 

1909
00:37:43,359 --> 00:37:47,910
screenshots and stuff. Um, what was that
experience like taking Lizzie to court?

1910
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:47,920
experience like taking Lizzie to court?
 

1911
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,069
experience like taking Lizzie to court?
It was really scary if I'm being honest.

1912
00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:50,079
It was really scary if I'm being honest.
 

1913
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:52,950
It was really scary if I'm being honest.
Um, me and my partner Cam, we we were

1914
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:52,960
Um, me and my partner Cam, we we were
 

1915
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,510
Um, me and my partner Cam, we we were
literally at the courthouse for 5 hours.

1916
00:37:55,510 --> 00:37:55,520
literally at the courthouse for 5 hours.
 

1917
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,349
literally at the courthouse for 5 hours.
I was pacing. I had a huge binder filled

1918
00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:59,359
I was pacing. I had a huge binder filled
 

1919
00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:01,589
I was pacing. I had a huge binder filled
with just everything, you know, all of

1920
00:38:01,589 --> 00:38:01,599
with just everything, you know, all of
 

1921
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:03,829
with just everything, you know, all of
the evidence that I needed. It was

1922
00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:03,839
the evidence that I needed. It was
 

1923
00:38:03,839 --> 00:38:05,910
the evidence that I needed. It was
really scary. Lizzy was not there

1924
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:05,920
really scary. Lizzy was not there
 

1925
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,950
really scary. Lizzy was not there
physically. She was instead on like a

1926
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:08,960
physically. She was instead on like a
 

1927
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,069
physically. She was instead on like a
big like projector screen inside the

1928
00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:12,079
big like projector screen inside the
 

1929
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:14,069
big like projector screen inside the
courthouse. So we got in there, we

1930
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:14,079
courthouse. So we got in there, we
 

1931
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:15,990
courthouse. So we got in there, we
witnessed a few other people like it's

1932
00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:16,000
witnessed a few other people like it's
 

1933
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,589
witnessed a few other people like it's
public so you can like watch other uh

1934
00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:19,599
public so you can like watch other uh
 

1935
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:21,829
public so you can like watch other uh
cases, you know, be talked about. And so

1936
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:21,839
cases, you know, be talked about. And so
 

1937
00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:24,150
cases, you know, be talked about. And so
we got to mine. Uh I had to go up there

1938
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:24,160
we got to mine. Uh I had to go up there
 

1939
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,589
we got to mine. Uh I had to go up there
by myself. I was sitting, you know,

1940
00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:25,599
by myself. I was sitting, you know,
 

1941
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:27,109
by myself. I was sitting, you know,
behind a table with a little microphone

1942
00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:27,119
behind a table with a little microphone
 

1943
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:31,430
behind a table with a little microphone
and Lizzy was there on camera and I had

1944
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:31,440
and Lizzy was there on camera and I had
 

1945
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,069
and Lizzy was there on camera and I had
to tell the judge why I needed this

1946
00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:34,079
to tell the judge why I needed this
 

1947
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:35,589
to tell the judge why I needed this
protection order and I explained, you

1948
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:35,599
protection order and I explained, you
 

1949
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:38,069
protection order and I explained, you
know, she obtained my address and she

1950
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:38,079
know, she obtained my address and she
 

1951
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:40,630
know, she obtained my address and she
has sent the police to my house and she

1952
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:40,640
has sent the police to my house and she
 

1953
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,870
has sent the police to my house and she
sent firefighters to the house and, you

1954
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:42,880
sent firefighters to the house and, you
 

1955
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,710
sent firefighters to the house and, you
know, just all of these different

1956
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:44,720
know, just all of these different
 

1957
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:46,829
know, just all of these different
things. And

1958
00:38:46,829 --> 00:38:46,839
things. And
 

1959
00:38:46,839 --> 00:38:49,829
things. And
um it just it didn't go terribly well if

1960
00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:49,839
um it just it didn't go terribly well if
 

1961
00:38:49,839 --> 00:38:52,150
um it just it didn't go terribly well if
I'm being honest because you know when

1962
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:52,160
I'm being honest because you know when
 

1963
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,069
I'm being honest because you know when
the judge kind of turned to Lizzy to be

1964
00:38:54,069 --> 00:38:54,079
the judge kind of turned to Lizzy to be
 

1965
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:56,230
the judge kind of turned to Lizzy to be
like well you know is this true like did

1966
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:56,240
like well you know is this true like did
 

1967
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:59,270
like well you know is this true like did
you do these things? Um she proceeded to

1968
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:59,280
you do these things? Um she proceeded to
 

1969
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,670
you do these things? Um she proceeded to
mostly just talk about like the online

1970
00:39:01,670 --> 00:39:01,680
mostly just talk about like the online
 

1971
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,230
mostly just talk about like the online
drama stuff. You know she was like okay

1972
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:04,240
drama stuff. You know she was like okay
 

1973
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:06,150
drama stuff. You know she was like okay
well but all this stuff happened. I got

1974
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:06,160
well but all this stuff happened. I got
 

1975
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,230
well but all this stuff happened. I got
banned from this event and and she was

1976
00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:08,240
banned from this event and and she was
 

1977
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,390
banned from this event and and she was
on Dr. Phil. Did you know that? And and

1978
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:10,400
on Dr. Phil. Did you know that? And and
 

1979
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,230
on Dr. Phil. Did you know that? And and
then she stole my she stole my cosplay

1980
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:12,240
then she stole my she stole my cosplay
 

1981
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:14,310
then she stole my she stole my cosplay
design and and it got to a point where

1982
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:14,320
design and and it got to a point where
 

1983
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,990
design and and it got to a point where
like the judge legitimately started

1984
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:16,000
like the judge legitimately started
 

1985
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,069
like the judge legitimately started
getting irritated because it was a thing

1986
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:18,079
getting irritated because it was a thing
 

1987
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:19,589
getting irritated because it was a thing
where we couldn't I don't think she

1988
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:19,599
where we couldn't I don't think she
 

1989
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:21,270
where we couldn't I don't think she
could hear us. Like there was some kind

1990
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:21,280
could hear us. Like there was some kind
 

1991
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,750
could hear us. Like there was some kind
of interference going on. So she was

1992
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:23,760
of interference going on. So she was
 

1993
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,390
of interference going on. So she was
just kind of talking and the judge was

1994
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:26,400
just kind of talking and the judge was
 

1995
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,630
just kind of talking and the judge was
like you know like Miss Silva Elizabeth

1996
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:28,640
like you know like Miss Silva Elizabeth
 

1997
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,349
like you know like Miss Silva Elizabeth
you know can please can can you hear me?

1998
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:31,359
you know can please can can you hear me?
 

1999
00:39:31,359 --> 00:39:33,910
you know can please can can you hear me?
And eventually after a little while, she

2000
00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:33,920
And eventually after a little while, she
 

2001
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,870
And eventually after a little while, she
finally was able to kind of realize that

2002
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:36,880
finally was able to kind of realize that
 

2003
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,150
finally was able to kind of realize that
we were trying, you know, that they were

2004
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:38,160
we were trying, you know, that they were
 

2005
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,589
we were trying, you know, that they were
trying to stop her from continuing. And

2006
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:41,599
trying to stop her from continuing. And
 

2007
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:43,990
trying to stop her from continuing. And
the judge was kind of irritated because,

2008
00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:44,000
the judge was kind of irritated because,
 

2009
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,150
the judge was kind of irritated because,
you know, we kind of spent a lot of time

2010
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:46,160
you know, we kind of spent a lot of time
 

2011
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,230
you know, we kind of spent a lot of time
going over this. It was very quick.

2012
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:48,240
going over this. It was very quick.
 

2013
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:49,829
going over this. It was very quick.
Okay. Do you have any other comments? I

2014
00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:49,839
Okay. Do you have any other comments? I
 

2015
00:39:49,839 --> 00:39:51,430
Okay. Do you have any other comments? I
was just like, I mean, not really. I'm

2016
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:51,440
was just like, I mean, not really. I'm
 

2017
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,430
was just like, I mean, not really. I'm
just kind of worried that she's going to

2018
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:53,440
just kind of worried that she's going to
 

2019
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,349
just kind of worried that she's going to
use the address to like come come to my

2020
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:55,359
use the address to like come come to my
 

2021
00:39:55,359 --> 00:39:57,030
use the address to like come come to my
house or, you know, maybe I'll see her

2022
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:57,040
house or, you know, maybe I'll see her
 

2023
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,870
house or, you know, maybe I'll see her
at a convention or whatever. Okay,

2024
00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:58,880
at a convention or whatever. Okay,
 

2025
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,310
at a convention or whatever. Okay,
great. You're in Texas. you're in

2026
00:40:00,310 --> 00:40:00,320
great. You're in Texas. you're in
 

2027
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,790
great. You're in Texas. you're in
California, there's no need dismissed.

2028
00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:02,800
California, there's no need dismissed.
 

2029
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,150
California, there's no need dismissed.
Got it. And that that it was extremely

2030
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:06,160
Got it. And that that it was extremely
 

2031
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,030
Got it. And that that it was extremely
disheartening to have that dismissed so

2032
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:09,040
disheartening to have that dismissed so
 

2033
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,190
disheartening to have that dismissed so
easily considering that, you know, she

2034
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:11,200
easily considering that, you know, she
 

2035
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,349
easily considering that, you know, she
was using that my address to literally

2036
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:13,359
was using that my address to literally
 

2037
00:40:13,359 --> 00:40:15,589
was using that my address to literally
send people to my house. So,

2038
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:15,599
send people to my house. So,
 

2039
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:17,349
send people to my house. So,
unfortunately, yeah, we did walk away

2040
00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:17,359
unfortunately, yeah, we did walk away
 

2041
00:40:17,359 --> 00:40:18,950
unfortunately, yeah, we did walk away
from it not getting the protection that

2042
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:18,960
from it not getting the protection that
 

2043
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,030
from it not getting the protection that
I was hoping to get.

2044
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:21,040
I was hoping to get.
 

2045
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,950
I was hoping to get.
I I could only imagine considering that

2046
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:22,960
I I could only imagine considering that
 

2047
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,670
I I could only imagine considering that
you get this is like a online harassment

2048
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:25,680
you get this is like a online harassment
 

2049
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,790
you get this is like a online harassment
case that maybe god I could only think

2050
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:28,800
case that maybe god I could only think
 

2051
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,310
case that maybe god I could only think
that the only thing that could probably

2052
00:40:30,310 --> 00:40:30,320
that the only thing that could probably
 

2053
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,710
that the only thing that could probably
apply cuz you he's right you guys are in

2054
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:32,720
apply cuz you he's right you guys are in
 

2055
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:34,950
apply cuz you he's right you guys are in
different states. So therefore the

2056
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:34,960
different states. So therefore the
 

2057
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,470
different states. So therefore the
protection is a bunch of states in

2058
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:36,480
protection is a bunch of states in
 

2059
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,750
protection is a bunch of states in
between you that she would have to

2060
00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:37,760
between you that she would have to
 

2061
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,670
between you that she would have to
travel to if she if she even had the

2062
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:39,680
travel to if she if she even had the
 

2063
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,589
travel to if she if she even had the
money and if she doesn't then there's no

2064
00:40:41,589 --> 00:40:41,599
money and if she doesn't then there's no
 

2065
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:43,430
money and if she doesn't then there's no
need. The only thing I could probably

2066
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:43,440
need. The only thing I could probably
 

2067
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,030
need. The only thing I could probably
think of is maybe like a cease and

2068
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:45,040
think of is maybe like a cease and
 

2069
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,310
think of is maybe like a cease and
desist or something like that. Just

2070
00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:46,320
desist or something like that. Just
 

2071
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,510
desist or something like that. Just
something to get her to stop like

2072
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:47,520
something to get her to stop like
 

2073
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,790
something to get her to stop like
talking about you online or something.

2074
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:48,800
talking about you online or something.
 

2075
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,990
talking about you online or something.
But even then, those are really hard cuz

2076
00:40:50,990 --> 00:40:51,000
But even then, those are really hard cuz
 

2077
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,030
But even then, those are really hard cuz
like it's one of one of those things

2078
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:53,040
like it's one of one of those things
 

2079
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,470
like it's one of one of those things
again where you have to prove why this

2080
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:54,480
again where you have to prove why this
 

2081
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,750
again where you have to prove why this
person needs to stop talking about you

2082
00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:55,760
person needs to stop talking about you
 

2083
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,510
person needs to stop talking about you
or something like that. Or not even

2084
00:40:57,510 --> 00:40:57,520
or something like that. Or not even
 

2085
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,829
or something like that. Or not even
that, like even you can just type one up

2086
00:40:59,829 --> 00:40:59,839
that, like even you can just type one up
 

2087
00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:01,349
that, like even you can just type one up
yourself and just send it and like

2088
00:41:01,349 --> 00:41:01,359
yourself and just send it and like
 

2089
00:41:01,359 --> 00:41:02,870
yourself and just send it and like
people will be like this even if it's

2090
00:41:02,870 --> 00:41:02,880
people will be like this even if it's
 

2091
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,390
people will be like this even if it's
like legitimate or not. It's like this

2092
00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:04,400
like legitimate or not. It's like this
 

2093
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,430
like legitimate or not. It's like this
is [\h__\h] I'm not going to stop

2094
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:05,440
is [\h__\h] I'm not going to stop
 

2095
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,510
is [\h__\h] I'm not going to stop
talking about it. So it's like I don't

2096
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:07,520
talking about it. So it's like I don't
 

2097
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,790
talking about it. So it's like I don't
know how to get it to stop other than

2098
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:08,800
know how to get it to stop other than
 

2099
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,150
know how to get it to stop other than
you just block them, I guess. But um was

2100
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:12,160
you just block them, I guess. But um was
 

2101
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,750
you just block them, I guess. But um was
Lizzie and honestly Oh, sorry. No, I was

2102
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:15,760
Lizzie and honestly Oh, sorry. No, I was
 

2103
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,270
Lizzie and honestly Oh, sorry. No, I was
going to ask was Lizzie like on like a

2104
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:17,280
going to ask was Lizzie like on like a
 

2105
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,550
going to ask was Lizzie like on like a
Zoom call or something? thing. Is that

2106
00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:18,560
Zoom call or something? thing. Is that
 

2107
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,190
Zoom call or something? thing. Is that
why she couldn't hear you guys or is was

2108
00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:21,200
why she couldn't hear you guys or is was
 

2109
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,230
why she couldn't hear you guys or is was
she on the phone? It Yeah, it's Yeah, it

2110
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:24,240
she on the phone? It Yeah, it's Yeah, it
 

2111
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:25,750
she on the phone? It Yeah, it's Yeah, it
seemed like it was a Zoom call. It was a

2112
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:25,760
seemed like it was a Zoom call. It was a
 

2113
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,230
seemed like it was a Zoom call. It was a
video call. So, yeah, it was I don't

2114
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:28,240
video call. So, yeah, it was I don't
 

2115
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:29,349
video call. So, yeah, it was I don't
know what happened though. There was

2116
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:29,359
know what happened though. There was
 

2117
00:41:29,359 --> 00:41:31,190
know what happened though. There was
like a connection problem because she

2118
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:31,200
like a connection problem because she
 

2119
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,270
like a connection problem because she
just she was talking and everybody in

2120
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:33,280
just she was talking and everybody in
 

2121
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,190
just she was talking and everybody in
the room like they were trying to get

2122
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:35,200
the room like they were trying to get
 

2123
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,750
the room like they were trying to get
her attention like they at some point

2124
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:37,760
her attention like they at some point
 

2125
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,190
her attention like they at some point
some guy like came up and was trying to

2126
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:39,200
some guy like came up and was trying to
 

2127
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,589
some guy like came up and was trying to
like reconnect like the microphone with

2128
00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:41,599
like reconnect like the microphone with
 

2129
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:43,109
like reconnect like the microphone with
the judge because they thought maybe

2130
00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:43,119
the judge because they thought maybe
 

2131
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:44,950
the judge because they thought maybe
like something was happening maybe on

2132
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:44,960
like something was happening maybe on
 

2133
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,950
like something was happening maybe on
our end. But yeah, it was it was really

2134
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:46,960
our end. But yeah, it was it was really
 

2135
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,309
our end. But yeah, it was it was really
strange. It seemed to be like a Zoom

2136
00:41:48,309 --> 00:41:48,319
strange. It seemed to be like a Zoom
 

2137
00:41:48,319 --> 00:41:50,470
strange. It seemed to be like a Zoom
video call. It sounds like [\h__\h]

2138
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:50,480
video call. It sounds like [\h__\h]
 

2139
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,190
video call. It sounds like [\h__\h]
chaos. Just utter It was. Oh my god. I

2140
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:55,200
chaos. Just utter It was. Oh my god. I
 

2141
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,710
chaos. Just utter It was. Oh my god. I
was so anxious, too, because I didn't

2142
00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:56,720
was so anxious, too, because I didn't
 

2143
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:58,870
was so anxious, too, because I didn't
know what to expect. I was anxious.

2144
00:41:58,870 --> 00:41:58,880
know what to expect. I was anxious.
 

2145
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,710
know what to expect. I was anxious.
Like, what if she traveled to be here?

2146
00:42:00,710 --> 00:42:00,720
Like, what if she traveled to be here?
 

2147
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:03,190
Like, what if she traveled to be here?
Like, I it I'm I'm scared. I don't want

2148
00:42:03,190 --> 00:42:03,200
Like, I it I'm I'm scared. I don't want
 

2149
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,190
Like, I it I'm I'm scared. I don't want
to see this girl physically. I was It

2150
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:05,200
to see this girl physically. I was It
 

2151
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,470
to see this girl physically. I was It
was terrifying. It was so terrifying. I

2152
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:08,480
was terrifying. It was so terrifying. I
 

2153
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,790
was terrifying. It was so terrifying. I
guess I suppose your saving grace was a

2154
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:10,800
guess I suppose your saving grace was a
 

2155
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,470
guess I suppose your saving grace was a
shitty Zoom call connection. was the

2156
00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:12,480
shitty Zoom call connection. was the
 

2157
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,750
shitty Zoom call connection. was the
only interaction you've ever had with

2158
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:13,760
only interaction you've ever had with
 

2159
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,030
only interaction you've ever had with
this person like in not in person but

2160
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:17,040
this person like in not in person but
 

2161
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,190
this person like in not in person but
like you know.

2162
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:19,200
like you know.
 

2163
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,670
like you know.
So I I think that covers everything with

2164
00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:21,680
So I I think that covers everything with
 

2165
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,270
So I I think that covers everything with
Lizzie unless if you had anything else

2166
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:23,280
Lizzie unless if you had anything else
 

2167
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,870
Lizzie unless if you had anything else
you want to address. Does she still to

2168
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:24,880
you want to address. Does she still to
 

2169
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,550
you want to address. Does she still to
this day continue to try to reach out to

2170
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:26,560
this day continue to try to reach out to
 

2171
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,589
this day continue to try to reach out to
you and everything?

2172
00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:29,599
you and everything?
 

2173
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:32,790
you and everything?
Um right now I haven't heard anything

2174
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:32,800
Um right now I haven't heard anything
 

2175
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,270
Um right now I haven't heard anything
like as of terribly late. I just know

2176
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:35,280
like as of terribly late. I just know
 

2177
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,150
like as of terribly late. I just know
that she still is watching my account

2178
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:38,160
that she still is watching my account
 

2179
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,109
that she still is watching my account
because she does still actively post

2180
00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:41,119
because she does still actively post
 

2181
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:43,910
because she does still actively post
about like against me. Um like for

2182
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:43,920
about like against me. Um like for
 

2183
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,190
about like against me. Um like for
example like I I got like a a music gig

2184
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:47,200
example like I I got like a a music gig
 

2185
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,230
example like I I got like a a music gig
on uh fantasy store online and um

2186
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:50,240
on uh fantasy store online and um
 

2187
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:52,230
on uh fantasy store online and um
because of that she was posting things

2188
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:52,240
because of that she was posting things
 

2189
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:54,470
because of that she was posting things
like oh it's time to boycott this. And

2190
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:54,480
like oh it's time to boycott this. And
 

2191
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,790
like oh it's time to boycott this. And
so yeah I from my understanding she's

2192
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:56,800
so yeah I from my understanding she's
 

2193
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,309
so yeah I from my understanding she's
not she's not reaching out. I haven't

2194
00:42:58,309 --> 00:42:58,319
not she's not reaching out. I haven't
 

2195
00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:00,470
not she's not reaching out. I haven't
gotten anything directly, but she does

2196
00:43:00,470 --> 00:43:00,480
gotten anything directly, but she does
 

2197
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,670
gotten anything directly, but she does
still monitor my social media, right,

2198
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:03,680
still monitor my social media, right,
 

2199
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,069
still monitor my social media, right,
unfortunately. Did she by any chance

2200
00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:06,079
unfortunately. Did she by any chance
 

2201
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:08,230
unfortunately. Did she by any chance
like post anywhere like because you said

2202
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:08,240
like post anywhere like because you said
 

2203
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:09,990
like post anywhere like because you said
that Sega gave her a notice that would

2204
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:10,000
that Sega gave her a notice that would
 

2205
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,069
that Sega gave her a notice that would
ban her from the convention that you

2206
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:12,079
ban her from the convention that you
 

2207
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:13,750
ban her from the convention that you
guys were both going to. Was that

2208
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:13,760
guys were both going to. Was that
 

2209
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,510
guys were both going to. Was that
something she ever like posted online or

2210
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:15,520
something she ever like posted online or
 

2211
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,750
something she ever like posted online or
anything or

2212
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:17,760
anything or
 

2213
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,750
anything or
She did. She actually posted the letter

2214
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:19,760
She did. She actually posted the letter
 

2215
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,030
She did. She actually posted the letter
directly. Um, which Oh my gosh. Like

2216
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:23,040
directly. Um, which Oh my gosh. Like
 

2217
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,349
directly. Um, which Oh my gosh. Like
Yeah, she she posted that. it had a lot

2218
00:43:25,349 --> 00:43:25,359
Yeah, she she posted that. it had a lot
 

2219
00:43:25,359 --> 00:43:27,349
Yeah, she she posted that. it had a lot
of her personal information on it. So, I

2220
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:27,359
of her personal information on it. So, I
 

2221
00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:29,829
of her personal information on it. So, I
made sure that when I put that in my I

2222
00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:29,839
made sure that when I put that in my I
 

2223
00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:31,030
made sure that when I put that in my I
have a document that does have

2224
00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:31,040
have a document that does have
 

2225
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,109
have a document that does have
everything and I filtered that out

2226
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:33,119
everything and I filtered that out
 

2227
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:34,710
everything and I filtered that out
because yeah, I think she accidentally

2228
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:34,720
because yeah, I think she accidentally
 

2229
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:36,950
because yeah, I think she accidentally
shared a little too much. Gotcha. So,

2230
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:36,960
shared a little too much. Gotcha. So,
 

2231
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,190
shared a little too much. Gotcha. So,
you you you have been kind of compiling

2232
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:39,200
you you you have been kind of compiling
 

2233
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,150
you you you have been kind of compiling
over the last however long this has been

2234
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:42,160
over the last however long this has been
 

2235
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,750
over the last however long this has been
going on, over a decade, I suppose,

2236
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:43,760
going on, over a decade, I suppose,
 

2237
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,710
going on, over a decade, I suppose,
which is insane to think about. Yeah. Um

2238
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:46,720
which is insane to think about. Yeah. Um
 

2239
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:48,390
which is insane to think about. Yeah. Um
all of the incidents of her like

2240
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:48,400
all of the incidents of her like
 

2241
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,069
all of the incidents of her like
reaching out to you and your friends and

2242
00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:50,079
reaching out to you and your friends and
 

2243
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:52,150
reaching out to you and your friends and
your family and stuff like that. Um, and

2244
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:52,160
your family and stuff like that. Um, and
 

2245
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:58,150
your family and stuff like that. Um, and
you posted that to Twitter.

2246
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:58,160

 

2247
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,230

Then I put that on Twitter. Yes. Um, and

2248
00:44:00,230 --> 00:44:00,240
Then I put that on Twitter. Yes. Um, and
 

2249
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:02,630
Then I put that on Twitter. Yes. Um, and
yes, it just has every every as much as

2250
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:02,640
yes, it just has every every as much as
 

2251
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,190
yes, it just has every every as much as
I can. There might be some stuff to be

2252
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:05,200
I can. There might be some stuff to be
 

2253
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,589
I can. There might be some stuff to be
honest that I'm missing just from years

2254
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:07,599
honest that I'm missing just from years
 

2255
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:09,109
honest that I'm missing just from years
ago and maybe I just haven't thought to

2256
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:09,119
ago and maybe I just haven't thought to
 

2257
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:10,790
ago and maybe I just haven't thought to
put it in there. Um, because I this has

2258
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:10,800
put it in there. Um, because I this has
 

2259
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,349
put it in there. Um, because I this has
been 10 years worth of stuff. But yes,

2260
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:13,359
been 10 years worth of stuff. But yes,
 

2261
00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:16,390
been 10 years worth of stuff. But yes,
um for reaching out to my mom, my

2262
00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:16,400
um for reaching out to my mom, my
 

2263
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,550
um for reaching out to my mom, my
brother, um just all kinds of stuff that

2264
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:20,560
brother, um just all kinds of stuff that
 

2265
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,390
brother, um just all kinds of stuff that
I felt was very important to include in

2266
00:44:22,390 --> 00:44:22,400
I felt was very important to include in
 

2267
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,069
I felt was very important to include in
that document just for the just for the

2268
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:24,079
that document just for the just for the
 

2269
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:26,309
that document just for the just for the
matter of my safety cuz I just I don't

2270
00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:26,319
matter of my safety cuz I just I don't
 

2271
00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:28,390
matter of my safety cuz I just I don't
know. I I to be honest, I don't know

2272
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:28,400
know. I I to be honest, I don't know
 

2273
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,069
know. I I to be honest, I don't know
what she would do. I don't think she's

2274
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:30,079
what she would do. I don't think she's
 

2275
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:32,630
what she would do. I don't think she's
going to do anything crazy, but I you

2276
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:32,640
going to do anything crazy, but I you
 

2277
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,790
going to do anything crazy, but I you
know, having my address and using it

2278
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:34,800
know, having my address and using it
 

2279
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,109
know, having my address and using it
against me to do that, it's just it's

2280
00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:37,119
against me to do that, it's just it's
 

2281
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:39,670
against me to do that, it's just it's
scary. So, I document for the sake of my

2282
00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:39,680
scary. So, I document for the sake of my
 

2283
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,750
scary. So, I document for the sake of my
safety. Sure. And um in regards to the

2284
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:43,760
safety. Sure. And um in regards to the
 

2285
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,030
safety. Sure. And um in regards to the
document, do you know what like the

2286
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:45,040
document, do you know what like the
 

2287
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,710
document, do you know what like the
overall reaction to it was when you

2288
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:46,720
overall reaction to it was when you
 

2289
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:49,510
overall reaction to it was when you
posted it initially?

2290
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:49,520
posted it initially?
 

2291
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,150
posted it initially?
It was just yeah I mean a lot of people

2292
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:52,160
It was just yeah I mean a lot of people
 

2293
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,470
It was just yeah I mean a lot of people
were obviously very upset about the

2294
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:54,480
were obviously very upset about the
 

2295
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,750
were obviously very upset about the
situation. I I had a lot I had a strong

2296
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:57,760
situation. I I had a lot I had a strong
 

2297
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,990
situation. I I had a lot I had a strong
outpour of support and just a lot of

2298
00:44:59,990 --> 00:45:00,000
outpour of support and just a lot of
 

2299
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,510
outpour of support and just a lot of
people saying we're just really sorry

2300
00:45:01,510 --> 00:45:01,520
people saying we're just really sorry
 

2301
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,309
people saying we're just really sorry
that this happened to you, you know, and

2302
00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:04,319
that this happened to you, you know, and
 

2303
00:45:04,319 --> 00:45:07,270
that this happened to you, you know, and
cuz for a little while there was like

2304
00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:07,280
cuz for a little while there was like
 

2305
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,230
cuz for a little while there was like
this public

2306
00:45:09,230 --> 00:45:09,240
this public
 

2307
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:12,870
this public
uh she had put out a public like apology

2308
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:12,880
uh she had put out a public like apology
 

2309
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,950
uh she had put out a public like apology
and um a lot of people were kind of left

2310
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:14,960
and um a lot of people were kind of left
 

2311
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,670
and um a lot of people were kind of left
in the dark when that apology kind of

2312
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:17,680
in the dark when that apology kind of
 

2313
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,190
in the dark when that apology kind of
didn't really mean anything. So that's

2314
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:19,200
didn't really mean anything. So that's
 

2315
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,030
didn't really mean anything. So that's
why I wound up putting this out because

2316
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:21,040
why I wound up putting this out because
 

2317
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,390
why I wound up putting this out because
then a lot of people were kind of

2318
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:22,400
then a lot of people were kind of
 

2319
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,069
then a lot of people were kind of
confused. Why is this happening? didn't

2320
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:24,079
confused. Why is this happening? didn't
 

2321
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:26,630
confused. Why is this happening? didn't
she just apologize? Um, but yes, it was

2322
00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:26,640
she just apologize? Um, but yes, it was
 

2323
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,030
she just apologize? Um, but yes, it was
mostly extremely extremely positive in

2324
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:29,040
mostly extremely extremely positive in
 

2325
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,349
mostly extremely extremely positive in
in support of me and just

2326
00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:31,359
in support of me and just
 

2327
00:45:31,359 --> 00:45:33,829
in support of me and just
disappointment. You know, I it's it

2328
00:45:33,829 --> 00:45:33,839
disappointment. You know, I it's it
 

2329
00:45:33,839 --> 00:45:35,990
disappointment. You know, I it's it
sucks because she did apologize and we

2330
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:36,000
sucks because she did apologize and we
 

2331
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,109
sucks because she did apologize and we
thought that we were able to kind of

2332
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:37,119
thought that we were able to kind of
 

2333
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:39,829
thought that we were able to kind of
move forward with that. Um, and I just

2334
00:45:39,829 --> 00:45:39,839
move forward with that. Um, and I just
 

2335
00:45:39,839 --> 00:45:42,309
move forward with that. Um, and I just
didn't and I made sure to like when it

2336
00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:42,319
didn't and I made sure to like when it
 

2337
00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:43,990
didn't and I made sure to like when it
came to posting that I reminded

2338
00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:44,000
came to posting that I reminded
 

2339
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,309
came to posting that I reminded
everybody, do not attack do not attack

2340
00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:46,319
everybody, do not attack do not attack
 

2341
00:45:46,319 --> 00:45:48,630
everybody, do not attack do not attack
her. And luckily, I don't believe too

2342
00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:48,640
her. And luckily, I don't believe too
 

2343
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,349
her. And luckily, I don't believe too
many did uh when I did put that document

2344
00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:51,359
many did uh when I did put that document
 

2345
00:45:51,359 --> 00:45:53,270
many did uh when I did put that document
out because I reaffirmed it several

2346
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:53,280
out because I reaffirmed it several
 

2347
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,750
out because I reaffirmed it several
times not to. Right. And she's is she

2348
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:55,760
times not to. Right. And she's is she
 

2349
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,550
times not to. Right. And she's is she
like like what's her status like in the

2350
00:45:57,550 --> 00:45:57,560
like like what's her status like in the
 

2351
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,230
like like what's her status like in the
community like in the space? I know

2352
00:46:00,230 --> 00:46:00,240
community like in the space? I know
 

2353
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:01,349
community like in the space? I know
she's probably known just because of

2354
00:46:01,349 --> 00:46:01,359
she's probably known just because of
 

2355
00:46:01,359 --> 00:46:04,550
she's probably known just because of
that Sega article, but like afterwards

2356
00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:04,560
that Sega article, but like afterwards
 

2357
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,309
that Sega article, but like afterwards
with this whole spat with you like did

2358
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:06,319
with this whole spat with you like did
 

2359
00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:08,790
with this whole spat with you like did
she acquire some form of infamy over

2360
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:08,800
she acquire some form of infamy over
 

2361
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,790
she acquire some form of infamy over
this or

2362
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:10,800
this or
 

2363
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,750
this or
Yeah. No, unfortunately yes. uh within

2364
00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:13,760
Yeah. No, unfortunately yes. uh within
 

2365
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,910
Yeah. No, unfortunately yes. uh within
if you are if you are within the Sonic

2366
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:15,920
if you are if you are within the Sonic
 

2367
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,790
if you are if you are within the Sonic
community most people know who Lizzy is

2368
00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:18,800
community most people know who Lizzy is
 

2369
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,670
community most people know who Lizzy is
because of her reputation because of the

2370
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:21,680
because of her reputation because of the
 

2371
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,190
because of her reputation because of the
things that she has done not only to me

2372
00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:23,200
things that she has done not only to me
 

2373
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,750
things that she has done not only to me
but also to Matt and you know other

2374
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:25,760
but also to Matt and you know other
 

2375
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,910
but also to Matt and you know other
people have also spoken out on she

2376
00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:27,920
people have also spoken out on she
 

2377
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,589
people have also spoken out on she
reaches out for help and usually that

2378
00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:29,599
reaches out for help and usually that
 

2379
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:32,470
reaches out for help and usually that
help is help me destroy Emy's reputation

2380
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:32,480
help is help me destroy Emy's reputation
 

2381
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,829
help is help me destroy Emy's reputation
and if they are not wanting to do that

2382
00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:35,839
and if they are not wanting to do that
 

2383
00:46:35,839 --> 00:46:38,470
and if they are not wanting to do that
then she will not be your friend and she

2384
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:38,480
then she will not be your friend and she
 

2385
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,630
then she will not be your friend and she
will try to attack you and that's

2386
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:40,640
will try to attack you and that's
 

2387
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,710
will try to attack you and that's
unfortunately been

2388
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:42,720
unfortunately been
 

2389
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:45,430
unfortunately been
a pattern, you know. So, yeah, unfort

2390
00:46:45,430 --> 00:46:45,440
a pattern, you know. So, yeah, unfort
 

2391
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,750
a pattern, you know. So, yeah, unfort
people in the community know this and

2392
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:47,760
people in the community know this and
 

2393
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,790
people in the community know this and
know kind of her whole deal, right? I

2394
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:50,800
know kind of her whole deal, right? I
 

2395
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,150
know kind of her whole deal, right? I
wasn't sure because I know that like

2396
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:52,160
wasn't sure because I know that like
 

2397
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,430
wasn't sure because I know that like
people probably knew her if she's

2398
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:53,440
people probably knew her if she's
 

2399
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,030
people probably knew her if she's
getting invited to cons because she got

2400
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:55,040
getting invited to cons because she got
 

2401
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,430
getting invited to cons because she got
featured in this article. I assume that

2402
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:57,440
featured in this article. I assume that
 

2403
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,030
featured in this article. I assume that
like she's probably a well-known figure.

2404
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:59,040
like she's probably a well-known figure.
 

2405
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,630
like she's probably a well-known figure.
I wasn't sure if like this whole

2406
00:47:00,630 --> 00:47:00,640
I wasn't sure if like this whole
 

2407
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,390
I wasn't sure if like this whole
situation was what she is most known

2408
00:47:02,390 --> 00:47:02,400
situation was what she is most known
 

2409
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,430
situation was what she is most known
well for, but like I I I think most

2410
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:05,440
well for, but like I I I think most
 

2411
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,030
well for, but like I I I think most
people would probably point to, oh, she

2412
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:07,040
people would probably point to, oh, she
 

2413
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,109
people would probably point to, oh, she
was the girl who was featured in the SE

2414
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:09,119
was the girl who was featured in the SE
 

2415
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:11,030
was the girl who was featured in the SE
the Sega thing once and then she went

2416
00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:11,040
the Sega thing once and then she went
 

2417
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,390
the Sega thing once and then she went
crazy or something,

2418
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:14,400
crazy or something,
 

2419
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,910
crazy or something,
right? Well, I mean, and she does, don't

2420
00:47:15,910 --> 00:47:15,920
right? Well, I mean, and she does, don't
 

2421
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,510
right? Well, I mean, and she does, don't
get me wrong, too. She actually does

2422
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:17,520
get me wrong, too. She actually does
 

2423
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,710
get me wrong, too. She actually does
have, you know, a positive like circle

2424
00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:20,720
have, you know, a positive like circle
 

2425
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:22,950
have, you know, a positive like circle
of people who she like, from my

2426
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:22,960
of people who she like, from my
 

2427
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,870
of people who she like, from my
understanding, she like will post like

2428
00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:24,880
understanding, she like will post like
 

2429
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,790
understanding, she like will post like
merch videos and stuff like that. And it

2430
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:26,800
merch videos and stuff like that. And it
 

2431
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,069
merch videos and stuff like that. And it
seems like she has like a small little

2432
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:28,079
seems like she has like a small little
 

2433
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:31,030
seems like she has like a small little
corner of people who are um you know

2434
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:31,040
corner of people who are um you know
 

2435
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,550
corner of people who are um you know
behind her. It's I think it's Instagram

2436
00:47:32,550 --> 00:47:32,560
behind her. It's I think it's Instagram
 

2437
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,230
behind her. It's I think it's Instagram
and like Tik Tok if I remember

2438
00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:34,240
and like Tik Tok if I remember
 

2439
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:35,990
and like Tik Tok if I remember
correctly. Um and so like there is

2440
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:36,000
correctly. Um and so like there is
 

2441
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,430
correctly. Um and so like there is
something positive for her and I'm I'm

2442
00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:37,440
something positive for her and I'm I'm
 

2443
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,309
something positive for her and I'm I'm
happy that she has that you know but a

2444
00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:40,319
happy that she has that you know but a
 

2445
00:47:40,319 --> 00:47:42,790
happy that she has that you know but a
lot of people are aware of that and so

2446
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:42,800
lot of people are aware of that and so
 

2447
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,309
lot of people are aware of that and so
if that is a name that gets brought up

2448
00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:44,319
if that is a name that gets brought up
 

2449
00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:47,190
if that is a name that gets brought up
most people unfortunately know what kind

2450
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:47,200
most people unfortunately know what kind
 

2451
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,829
most people unfortunately know what kind
of is attached to it. Sure. That's

2452
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:49,839
of is attached to it. Sure. That's
 

2453
00:47:49,839 --> 00:47:51,430
of is attached to it. Sure. That's
unfortunate. But hopefully, I mean, she

2454
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:51,440
unfortunate. But hopefully, I mean, she
 

2455
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,430
unfortunate. But hopefully, I mean, she
can probably like walk past it and kind

2456
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:53,440
can probably like walk past it and kind
 

2457
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,589
can probably like walk past it and kind
of rebuild something that's probably not

2458
00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:55,599
of rebuild something that's probably not
 

2459
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:58,069
of rebuild something that's probably not
based on just hating you. That would be,

2460
00:47:58,069 --> 00:47:58,079
based on just hating you. That would be,
 

2461
00:47:58,079 --> 00:47:59,829
based on just hating you. That would be,
you know, the happy ending for

2462
00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:59,839
you know, the happy ending for
 

2463
00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:01,589
you know, the happy ending for
everybody.

2464
00:48:01,589 --> 00:48:01,599
everybody.
 

2465
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:03,910
everybody.
It really would. You know, when she had

2466
00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:03,920
It really would. You know, when she had
 

2467
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,790
It really would. You know, when she had
apologized, um, when she had apologized

2468
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:06,800
apologized, um, when she had apologized
 

2469
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,589
apologized, um, when she had apologized
to me, I me and some of my friends, we

2470
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:09,599
to me, I me and some of my friends, we
 

2471
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:11,349
to me, I me and some of my friends, we
tried helping her, you know, we were

2472
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:11,359
tried helping her, you know, we were
 

2473
00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:12,790
tried helping her, you know, we were
encouraging people like, "No, she's

2474
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:12,800
encouraging people like, "No, she's
 

2475
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,349
encouraging people like, "No, she's
she's changing, you Oh, and we even gave

2476
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:15,359
she's changing, you Oh, and we even gave
 

2477
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:16,870
she's changing, you Oh, and we even gave
her like a little guide on how to like

2478
00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:16,880
her like a little guide on how to like
 

2479
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,710
her like a little guide on how to like
draw Sonic that we like made

2480
00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:18,720
draw Sonic that we like made
 

2481
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:21,030
draw Sonic that we like made
specifically and personally for her to

2482
00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:21,040
specifically and personally for her to
 

2483
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,790
specifically and personally for her to
try to teach her how to like create her

2484
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:22,800
try to teach her how to like create her
 

2485
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,710
try to teach her how to like create her
own content. And I I gave her a bunch of

2486
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:24,720
own content. And I I gave her a bunch of
 

2487
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:26,950
own content. And I I gave her a bunch of
advice on like maybe you could like make

2488
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:26,960
advice on like maybe you could like make
 

2489
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,030
advice on like maybe you could like make
a make a charity stream and maybe you

2490
00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:29,040
a make a charity stream and maybe you
 

2491
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,349
a make a charity stream and maybe you
could do that. Like she could have these

2492
00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:31,359
could do that. Like she could have these
 

2493
00:48:31,359 --> 00:48:33,670
could do that. Like she could have these
things. And I I think that if she puts

2494
00:48:33,670 --> 00:48:33,680
things. And I I think that if she puts
 

2495
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,670
things. And I I think that if she puts
in that effort like she could have such

2496
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:35,680
in that effort like she could have such
 

2497
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,950
in that effort like she could have such
a positive um uh what am I trying to

2498
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:38,960
a positive um uh what am I trying to
 

2499
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,910
a positive um uh what am I trying to
say? a positive uh

2500
00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:41,920
say? a positive uh
 

2501
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,309
say? a positive uh
like community base on the online or

2502
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:44,319
like community base on the online or
 

2503
00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:47,510
like community base on the online or
just

2504
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:47,520

 

2505
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,630

Yeah, I couldn't find the word for it.

2506
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:48,640
Yeah, I couldn't find the word for it.
 

2507
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,470
Yeah, I couldn't find the word for it.
Thank you. Just just a better reputation

2508
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:50,480
Thank you. Just just a better reputation
 

2509
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,309
Thank you. Just just a better reputation
overall. Just people, you know, not

2510
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:52,319
overall. Just people, you know, not
 

2511
00:48:52,319 --> 00:48:55,030
overall. Just people, you know, not
associating her with this crazy [\h__\h]

2512
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:55,040
associating her with this crazy [\h__\h]
 

2513
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,710
associating her with this crazy [\h__\h]
We're making a positive impact, you

2514
00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:56,720
We're making a positive impact, you
 

2515
00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:58,549
We're making a positive impact, you
know? I think that that's the best

2516
00:48:58,549 --> 00:48:58,559
know? I think that that's the best
 

2517
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:00,150
know? I think that that's the best
situation in the end is her making a

2518
00:49:00,150 --> 00:49:00,160
situation in the end is her making a
 

2519
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,870
situation in the end is her making a
positive impact. I agree. I agree. And I

2520
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:02,880
positive impact. I agree. I agree. And I
 

2521
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,870
positive impact. I agree. I agree. And I
mean um there

2522
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:06,880

 

2523
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,710

sorry there there is actually one other

2524
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:08,720
sorry there there is actually one other
 

2525
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:11,349
sorry there there is actually one other
thing too I wanted to bring up. Sure. Um

2526
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:11,359
thing too I wanted to bring up. Sure. Um
 

2527
00:49:11,359 --> 00:49:13,190
thing too I wanted to bring up. Sure. Um
because it it is something that I've

2528
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:13,200
because it it is something that I've
 

2529
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,069
because it it is something that I've
seen taken out of context. Uh and that

2530
00:49:16,069 --> 00:49:16,079
seen taken out of context. Uh and that
 

2531
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:18,630
seen taken out of context. Uh and that
is this tweet that I have, you know,

2532
00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:18,640
is this tweet that I have, you know,
 

2533
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,870
is this tweet that I have, you know,
it's it's been screenshotted for a while

2534
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:20,880
it's it's been screenshotted for a while
 

2535
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,829
it's it's been screenshotted for a while
now. It's uh me I'm tweeting at this

2536
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:23,839
now. It's uh me I'm tweeting at this
 

2537
00:49:23,839 --> 00:49:25,510
now. It's uh me I'm tweeting at this
guy. I think it's like Gab Gabriel

2538
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:25,520
guy. I think it's like Gab Gabriel
 

2539
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,470
guy. I think it's like Gab Gabriel
Castro or something. And I am the quote

2540
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:28,480
Castro or something. And I am the quote
 

2541
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,309
Castro or something. And I am the quote
I believe it goes jealous of attention.

2542
00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:30,319
I believe it goes jealous of attention.
 

2543
00:49:30,319 --> 00:49:32,230
I believe it goes jealous of attention.
she believed that she should be getting,

2544
00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:32,240
she believed that she should be getting,
 

2545
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:34,069
she believed that she should be getting,
you know, more attention or or whatever

2546
00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:34,079
you know, more attention or or whatever
 

2547
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:36,470
you know, more attention or or whatever
it was. Uh because I'm a pretty or I'm

2548
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:36,480
it was. Uh because I'm a pretty or I'm
 

2549
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:37,510
it was. Uh because I'm a pretty or I'm
sorry. I don't want to get the quote

2550
00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:37,520
sorry. I don't want to get the quote
 

2551
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,270
sorry. I don't want to get the quote
incorrect, but it was I think I have it.

2552
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:39,280
incorrect, but it was I think I have it.
 

2553
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,510
incorrect, but it was I think I have it.
It's somewhere. Um if you have it. Yeah.

2554
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:41,520
It's somewhere. Um if you have it. Yeah.
 

2555
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,069
It's somewhere. Um if you have it. Yeah.
Gabriel C. Media jealous of jealous of

2556
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:44,079
Gabriel C. Media jealous of jealous of
 

2557
00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:46,390
Gabriel C. Media jealous of jealous of
attention. She feels she should be

2558
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:46,400
attention. She feels she should be
 

2559
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,910
attention. She feels she should be
getting attention for beating cancer

2560
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:47,920
getting attention for beating cancer
 

2561
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,030
getting attention for beating cancer
when I'm just a pretty cosplayer.

2562
00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:51,040
when I'm just a pretty cosplayer.
 

2563
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,549
when I'm just a pretty cosplayer.
Yes, this screenshot has been spread

2564
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:54,559
Yes, this screenshot has been spread
 

2565
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:57,270
Yes, this screenshot has been spread
around. This is kind of like the main uh

2566
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:57,280
around. This is kind of like the main uh
 

2567
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,589
around. This is kind of like the main uh
thing that she does share and it has

2568
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:59,599
thing that she does share and it has
 

2569
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:01,670
thing that she does share and it has
been taken horribly out of context. I do

2570
00:50:01,670 --> 00:50:01,680
been taken horribly out of context. I do
 

2571
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,470
been taken horribly out of context. I do
want to clarify that and explain that I

2572
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:04,480
want to clarify that and explain that I
 

2573
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,790
want to clarify that and explain that I
really I wish I had worded it better

2574
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:06,800
really I wish I had worded it better
 

2575
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,270
really I wish I had worded it better
because at this time I was quoting

2576
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:09,280
because at this time I was quoting
 

2577
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,589
because at this time I was quoting
something that she herself had said on

2578
00:50:11,589 --> 00:50:11,599
something that she herself had said on
 

2579
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:13,750
something that she herself had said on
her Facebook. on her Facebook there was

2580
00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:13,760
her Facebook. on her Facebook there was
 

2581
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,430
her Facebook. on her Facebook there was
a post where she was uh attacking me

2582
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:17,440
a post where she was uh attacking me
 

2583
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,589
a post where she was uh attacking me
just saying a lot of very demeaning

2584
00:50:19,589 --> 00:50:19,599
just saying a lot of very demeaning
 

2585
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:21,270
just saying a lot of very demeaning
things and she at near the end of it

2586
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:21,280
things and she at near the end of it
 

2587
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,670
things and she at near the end of it
said you know I'm sorry but like you

2588
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:23,680
said you know I'm sorry but like you
 

2589
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,750
said you know I'm sorry but like you
know I think a girl who beat cancer

2590
00:50:25,750 --> 00:50:25,760
know I think a girl who beat cancer
 

2591
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,589
know I think a girl who beat cancer
deserves a lot more attention than some

2592
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:27,599
deserves a lot more attention than some
 

2593
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:29,990
deserves a lot more attention than some
like you know pretty face some some

2594
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:30,000
like you know pretty face some some
 

2595
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,710
like you know pretty face some some
[\h__\h] who stole my costume and so when I

2596
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:32,720
[\h__\h] who stole my costume and so when I
 

2597
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:36,230
[\h__\h] who stole my costume and so when I
was saying that I was trying to explain

2598
00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:36,240
was saying that I was trying to explain
 

2599
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:39,910
was saying that I was trying to explain
to somebody my only theory as to why she

2600
00:50:39,910 --> 00:50:39,920
to somebody my only theory as to why she
 

2601
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,990
to somebody my only theory as to why she
was coming after me because somebody kid

2602
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:42,000
was coming after me because somebody kid
 

2603
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,069
was coming after me because somebody kid
asked, "Why is she doing all of this?"

2604
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:44,079
asked, "Why is she doing all of this?"
 

2605
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:45,589
asked, "Why is she doing all of this?"
And I said, "I I think she's jealous of

2606
00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:45,599
And I said, "I I think she's jealous of
 

2607
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:47,589
And I said, "I I think she's jealous of
attention." This is what she said. She

2608
00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:47,599
attention." This is what she said. She
 

2609
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:50,150
attention." This is what she said. She
said that she deserves more attention.

2610
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:50,160
said that she deserves more attention.
 

2611
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,950
said that she deserves more attention.
You know, I wish I had worded it better

2612
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:52,960
You know, I wish I had worded it better
 

2613
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,630
You know, I wish I had worded it better
because years later without that

2614
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:54,640
because years later without that
 

2615
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,670
because years later without that
context, it doesn't look too amazing.

2616
00:50:57,670 --> 00:50:57,680
context, it doesn't look too amazing.
 

2617
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,910
context, it doesn't look too amazing.
Um, but I wanted to provide that because

2618
00:50:59,910 --> 00:50:59,920
Um, but I wanted to provide that because
 

2619
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:03,109
Um, but I wanted to provide that because
I it's important, right? Yeah. And

2620
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:03,119
I it's important, right? Yeah. And
 

2621
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:04,309
I it's important, right? Yeah. And
because I think this is important, too.

2622
00:51:04,309 --> 00:51:04,319
because I think this is important, too.
 

2623
00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:06,630
because I think this is important, too.
I think there have been controversies in

2624
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:06,640
I think there have been controversies in
 

2625
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,790
I think there have been controversies in
cosplay circles of like stealing costume

2626
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:08,800
cosplay circles of like stealing costume
 

2627
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,190
cosplay circles of like stealing costume
designs cuz someone will like put in a

2628
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:11,200
designs cuz someone will like put in a
 

2629
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,430
designs cuz someone will like put in a
lot of effort to like make their own

2630
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:13,440
lot of effort to like make their own
 

2631
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,430
lot of effort to like make their own
interpretation of a costume from a

2632
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:15,440
interpretation of a costume from a
 

2633
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,870
interpretation of a costume from a
character they like and then they see

2634
00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:16,880
character they like and then they see
 

2635
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,549
character they like and then they see
that same costume from somebody else cuz

2636
00:51:18,549 --> 00:51:18,559
that same costume from somebody else cuz
 

2637
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:20,549
that same costume from somebody else cuz
they follow the process cuz a lot of

2638
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:20,559
they follow the process cuz a lot of
 

2639
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:22,630
they follow the process cuz a lot of
costume designers will post their in

2640
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:22,640
costume designers will post their in
 

2641
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,230
costume designers will post their in
their entire um build from start to end

2642
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:26,240
their entire um build from start to end
 

2643
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:28,950
their entire um build from start to end
online mainly because of um uh cosplay

2644
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:28,960
online mainly because of um uh cosplay
 

2645
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,030
online mainly because of um uh cosplay
contest reasons. you kind of need like a

2646
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:31,040
contest reasons. you kind of need like a
 

2647
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,230
contest reasons. you kind of need like a
an entire like build um ex explanation

2648
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:34,240
an entire like build um ex explanation
 

2649
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:36,390
an entire like build um ex explanation
when you enter into these um circle or

2650
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:36,400
when you enter into these um circle or
 

2651
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,349
when you enter into these um circle or
these um uh competitions. It's either

2652
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:39,359
these um uh competitions. It's either
 

2653
00:51:39,359 --> 00:51:41,430
these um uh competitions. It's either
like in a video format or in like a

2654
00:51:41,430 --> 00:51:41,440
like in a video format or in like a
 

2655
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,309
like in a video format or in like a
pamphlet. Um so cosplay theft is

2656
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:44,319
pamphlet. Um so cosplay theft is
 

2657
00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:46,309
pamphlet. Um so cosplay theft is
something that people have seen before.

2658
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:46,319
something that people have seen before.
 

2659
00:51:46,319 --> 00:51:48,630
something that people have seen before.
Could you kind of just explain like what

2660
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:48,640
Could you kind of just explain like what
 

2661
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,549
Could you kind of just explain like what
costume is she talking about? Like what

2662
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:50,559
costume is she talking about? Like what
 

2663
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:53,349
costume is she talking about? Like what
did you steal from her?

2664
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:53,359
did you steal from her?
 

2665
00:51:53,359 --> 00:51:55,109
did you steal from her?
Okay. Yeah, let's talk about that. She

2666
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:55,119
Okay. Yeah, let's talk about that. She
 

2667
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:57,670
Okay. Yeah, let's talk about that. She
is referring to uh a Sonic cosplay, a

2668
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:57,680
is referring to uh a Sonic cosplay, a
 

2669
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,150
is referring to uh a Sonic cosplay, a
good cosplay of Sonic the Hedgehog. Um,

2670
00:52:00,150 --> 00:52:00,160
good cosplay of Sonic the Hedgehog. Um,
 

2671
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,309
good cosplay of Sonic the Hedgehog. Um,
yes, she does accuse me of stealing her

2672
00:52:02,309 --> 00:52:02,319
yes, she does accuse me of stealing her
 

2673
00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:05,190
yes, she does accuse me of stealing her
design. Uh, the only issue is that I

2674
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:05,200
design. Uh, the only issue is that I
 

2675
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,589
design. Uh, the only issue is that I
made the design before I knew who she

2676
00:52:07,589 --> 00:52:07,599
made the design before I knew who she
 

2677
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:09,910
made the design before I knew who she
was. I had already designed it. I did

2678
00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:09,920
was. I had already designed it. I did
 

2679
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,309
was. I had already designed it. I did
not know her at the time. And I'm just

2680
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:12,319
not know her at the time. And I'm just
 

2681
00:52:12,319 --> 00:52:13,829
not know her at the time. And I'm just
going to be honest, you know, when it

2682
00:52:13,829 --> 00:52:13,839
going to be honest, you know, when it
 

2683
00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:15,910
going to be honest, you know, when it
comes to cosplaying a character like

2684
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:15,920
comes to cosplaying a character like
 

2685
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,910
comes to cosplaying a character like
Sonic, I just don't feel like there's

2686
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:17,920
Sonic, I just don't feel like there's
 

2687
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,030
Sonic, I just don't feel like there's
too many creative ways to go about it.

2688
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:21,040
too many creative ways to go about it.
 

2689
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,430
too many creative ways to go about it.
To me, I just threw on a blue wig, got

2690
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:23,440
To me, I just threw on a blue wig, got
 

2691
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,510
To me, I just threw on a blue wig, got
some blue ears, and I wore like a

2692
00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:25,520
some blue ears, and I wore like a
 

2693
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,510
some blue ears, and I wore like a
skintight blue suit with like a tan

2694
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:27,520
skintight blue suit with like a tan
 

2695
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,109
skintight blue suit with like a tan
belly, you know, the gloves and the

2696
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:29,119
belly, you know, the gloves and the
 

2697
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:31,510
belly, you know, the gloves and the
shoes. It to me, I don't know too many

2698
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:31,520
shoes. It to me, I don't know too many
 

2699
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,150
shoes. It to me, I don't know too many
other ways to do it, but no, I did not

2700
00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:34,160
other ways to do it, but no, I did not
 

2701
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,549
other ways to do it, but no, I did not
steal her design. I didn't even see her

2702
00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:36,559
steal her design. I didn't even see her
 

2703
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:39,670
steal her design. I didn't even see her
design at that point. Um, I think that

2704
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:39,680
design at that point. Um, I think that
 

2705
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,750
design at that point. Um, I think that
if you were to Google Sonic cosplay,

2706
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:41,760
if you were to Google Sonic cosplay,
 

2707
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,430
if you were to Google Sonic cosplay,
you're probably going to see a lot that

2708
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:43,440
you're probably going to see a lot that
 

2709
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,510
you're probably going to see a lot that
just so happen to look extremely similar

2710
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:45,520
just so happen to look extremely similar
 

2711
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,309
just so happen to look extremely similar
because, right, it's just there's not a

2712
00:52:48,309 --> 00:52:48,319
because, right, it's just there's not a
 

2713
00:52:48,319 --> 00:52:50,150
because, right, it's just there's not a
lot of ways to go about it. I think that

2714
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:50,160
lot of ways to go about it. I think that
 

2715
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,589
lot of ways to go about it. I think that
if we're talking about maybe a different

2716
00:52:52,589 --> 00:52:52,599
if we're talking about maybe a different
 

2717
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:55,030
if we're talking about maybe a different
character, you know, that would require

2718
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:55,040
character, you know, that would require
 

2719
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,430
character, you know, that would require
something maybe where you want to put in

2720
00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:57,440
something maybe where you want to put in
 

2721
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,510
something maybe where you want to put in
a little bit more creative input, I

2722
00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:59,520
a little bit more creative input, I
 

2723
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,910
a little bit more creative input, I
think that's totally fair game to, you

2724
00:53:01,910 --> 00:53:01,920
think that's totally fair game to, you
 

2725
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,349
think that's totally fair game to, you
know, question that. But like something

2726
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:03,359
know, question that. But like something
 

2727
00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:05,670
know, question that. But like something
with Sonic, it's just I mean there are

2728
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:05,680
with Sonic, it's just I mean there are
 

2729
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,990
with Sonic, it's just I mean there are
the basics that you want to include in

2730
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:08,000
the basics that you want to include in
 

2731
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,510
the basics that you want to include in
your costume. And maybe the only

2732
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:09,520
your costume. And maybe the only
 

2733
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,349
your costume. And maybe the only
difference I've ever seen with that,

2734
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:11,359
difference I've ever seen with that,
 

2735
00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:13,270
difference I've ever seen with that,
like with Sonic, is maybe some people

2736
00:53:13,270 --> 00:53:13,280
like with Sonic, is maybe some people
 

2737
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,030
like with Sonic, is maybe some people
will like spike the hair, you know, but

2738
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:15,040
will like spike the hair, you know, but
 

2739
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,829
will like spike the hair, you know, but
for me, I just left it down, right? Not

2740
00:53:17,829 --> 00:53:17,839
for me, I just left it down, right? Not
 

2741
00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:19,510
for me, I just left it down, right? Not
to be like too condescending to you or

2742
00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:19,520
to be like too condescending to you or
 

2743
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:20,710
to be like too condescending to you or
anything. I'm sure your cosplays are

2744
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:20,720
anything. I'm sure your cosplays are
 

2745
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:22,630
anything. I'm sure your cosplays are
wonderful, but let's let's be frank on

2746
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:22,640
wonderful, but let's let's be frank on
 

2747
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:23,829
wonderful, but let's let's be frank on
what this is. You're just saying that

2748
00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:23,839
what this is. You're just saying that
 

2749
00:53:23,839 --> 00:53:26,549
what this is. You're just saying that
it's just it's just a blue hair. It's

2750
00:53:26,549 --> 00:53:26,559
it's just it's just a blue hair. It's
 

2751
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:29,349
it's just it's just a blue hair. It's
just blue hair wig and ears. It's not

2752
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:29,359
just blue hair wig and ears. It's not
 

2753
00:53:29,359 --> 00:53:32,069
just blue hair wig and ears. It's not
that deep. This was a lazy costume. This

2754
00:53:32,069 --> 00:53:32,079
that deep. This was a lazy costume. This
 

2755
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:33,990
that deep. This was a lazy costume. This
was not Yeah, I did not put a lot of

2756
00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:34,000
was not Yeah, I did not put a lot of
 

2757
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,670
was not Yeah, I did not put a lot of
thought into this. I was just like, "Oh,

2758
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:35,680
thought into this. I was just like, "Oh,
 

2759
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,990
thought into this. I was just like, "Oh,
yeah, a little skin suit and some, you

2760
00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:38,000
yeah, a little skin suit and some, you
 

2761
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,150
yeah, a little skin suit and some, you
know, some hair and w uh some uh sorry,

2762
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:40,160
know, some hair and w uh some uh sorry,
 

2763
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,510
know, some hair and w uh some uh sorry,
some hair and ears, you know, like

2764
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:41,520
some hair and ears, you know, like
 

2765
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,030
some hair and ears, you know, like
that's that's it. I did not put a lot

2766
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:43,040
that's that's it. I did not put a lot
 

2767
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,470
that's that's it. I did not put a lot
into this. You don't really need to

2768
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:44,480
into this. You don't really need to
 

2769
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,990
into this. You don't really need to
think that hard when it comes to Sonic.

2770
00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:46,000
think that hard when it comes to Sonic.
 

2771
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,150
think that hard when it comes to Sonic.
I mean, it is a blue hedgehog that's got

2772
00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:48,160
I mean, it is a blue hedgehog that's got
 

2773
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,630
I mean, it is a blue hedgehog that's got
like that whole anime spiked hair thing,

2774
00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:50,640
like that whole anime spiked hair thing,
 

2775
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,950
like that whole anime spiked hair thing,
but like it's it's a it's blue guy. Wear

2776
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:54,960
but like it's it's a it's blue guy. Wear
 

2777
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,790
but like it's it's a it's blue guy. Wear
blue. That's all you really got to do.

2778
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:56,800
blue. That's all you really got to do.
 

2779
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,710
blue. That's all you really got to do.
Yeah. If you want to keep it simple.

2780
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:58,720
Yeah. If you want to keep it simple.
 

2781
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:02,549
Yeah. If you want to keep it simple.
Yeah. Just a creature. Just a creature.

2782
00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:02,559
Yeah. Just a creature. Just a creature.
 

2783
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:05,109
Yeah. Just a creature. Just a creature.
I mean, like just a little blue guy.

2784
00:54:05,109 --> 00:54:05,119
I mean, like just a little blue guy.
 

2785
00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:06,870
I mean, like just a little blue guy.
Well, the whole the whole thing with it

2786
00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:06,880
Well, the whole the whole thing with it
 

2787
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,030
Well, the whole the whole thing with it
is it's like it's one of those things

2788
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:09,040
is it's like it's one of those things
 

2789
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,069
is it's like it's one of those things
where it's like if you're trying to

2790
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:10,079
where it's like if you're trying to
 

2791
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:12,230
where it's like if you're trying to
cosplay something with a simple design,

2792
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:12,240
cosplay something with a simple design,
 

2793
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:14,309
cosplay something with a simple design,
there's only a few variations you could

2794
00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:14,319
there's only a few variations you could
 

2795
00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:16,430
there's only a few variations you could
make on it before it becomes

2796
00:54:16,430 --> 00:54:16,440
make on it before it becomes
 

2797
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,790
make on it before it becomes
unrecognizable often times. And I think

2798
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:18,800
unrecognizable often times. And I think
 

2799
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,750
unrecognizable often times. And I think
the whole thing is keep it simple is

2800
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:21,760
the whole thing is keep it simple is
 

2801
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,309
the whole thing is keep it simple is
probably a key principle for cosplaying

2802
00:54:24,309 --> 00:54:24,319
probably a key principle for cosplaying
 

2803
00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:26,549
probably a key principle for cosplaying
in that front of cosplaying Sonic the

2804
00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:26,559
in that front of cosplaying Sonic the
 

2805
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:28,230
in that front of cosplaying Sonic the
Hedgehog. Sure. Especially if you don't

2806
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:28,240
Hedgehog. Sure. Especially if you don't
 

2807
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:32,630
Hedgehog. Sure. Especially if you don't
have a lot of money, you know. Yeah.

2808
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:32,640
have a lot of money, you know. Yeah.
 

2809
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,230
have a lot of money, you know. Yeah.
Which I didn't. and I didn't have a lot

2810
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:34,240
Which I didn't. and I didn't have a lot
 

2811
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:35,829
Which I didn't. and I didn't have a lot
of money, so I was just going with a

2812
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:35,839
of money, so I was just going with a
 

2813
00:54:35,839 --> 00:54:38,950
of money, so I was just going with a
basic. Right. Just keep it simple. It

2814
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:38,960
basic. Right. Just keep it simple. It
 

2815
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,630
basic. Right. Just keep it simple. It
gets the It gets the job done. It looks

2816
00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:40,640
gets the It gets the job done. It looks
 

2817
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,390
gets the It gets the job done. It looks
like the character. You You did a good

2818
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:42,400
like the character. You You did a good
 

2819
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,510
like the character. You You did a good
job with the budget you had.

2820
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:45,520
job with the budget you had.
 

2821
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,430
job with the budget you had.
Thank you. You're welcome. Yeah. So, I I

2822
00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:49,440
Thank you. You're welcome. Yeah. So, I I
 

2823
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,270
Thank you. You're welcome. Yeah. So, I I
think the only realistic way we're going

2824
00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:51,280
think the only realistic way we're going
 

2825
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,190
think the only realistic way we're going
to get through um some of these next

2826
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:53,200
to get through um some of these next
 

2827
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,510
to get through um some of these next
ones are just by going through names. Um

2828
00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:57,520
ones are just by going through names. Um
 

2829
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,910
ones are just by going through names. Um
because it's at this point it's just a

2830
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:59,920
because it's at this point it's just a
 

2831
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:01,510
because it's at this point it's just a
list of names of like people are just

2832
00:55:01,510 --> 00:55:01,520
list of names of like people are just
 

2833
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,390
list of names of like people are just
like either they've been seen having an

2834
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:04,400
like either they've been seen having an
 

2835
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,069
like either they've been seen having an
issue with you and people are like this

2836
00:55:06,069 --> 00:55:06,079
issue with you and people are like this
 

2837
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:08,510
issue with you and people are like this
is a fight that they had and it's like

2838
00:55:08,510 --> 00:55:08,520
is a fight that they had and it's like
 

2839
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,349
is a fight that they had and it's like
okay or just like names of people that

2840
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:11,359
okay or just like names of people that
 

2841
00:55:11,359 --> 00:55:12,950
okay or just like names of people that
maybe you've had associations with in

2842
00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:12,960
maybe you've had associations with in
 

2843
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,670
maybe you've had associations with in
the past. So let's just not even rapid

2844
00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:15,680
the past. So let's just not even rapid
 

2845
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,069
the past. So let's just not even rapid
fight just I'll name off a name. I'll

2846
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:18,079
fight just I'll name off a name. I'll
 

2847
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:20,309
fight just I'll name off a name. I'll
kind of explain the association get your

2848
00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:20,319
kind of explain the association get your
 

2849
00:55:20,319 --> 00:55:24,069
kind of explain the association get your
get your say on it. uh first name uh by

2850
00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:24,079
get your say on it. uh first name uh by
 

2851
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:25,750
get your say on it. uh first name uh by
a person or a content creator by the

2852
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:25,760
a person or a content creator by the
 

2853
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,349
a person or a content creator by the
name of Chuga Conroy. Um apparently they

2854
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:29,359
name of Chuga Conroy. Um apparently they
 

2855
00:55:29,359 --> 00:55:31,990
name of Chuga Conroy. Um apparently they
have been accused of solicitation of

2856
00:55:31,990 --> 00:55:32,000
have been accused of solicitation of
 

2857
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,710
have been accused of solicitation of
someone underage. I don't know that much

2858
00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:34,720
someone underage. I don't know that much
 

2859
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:37,589
someone underage. I don't know that much
about it. Um I'm sure somebody could

2860
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:37,599
about it. Um I'm sure somebody could
 

2861
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:41,030
about it. Um I'm sure somebody could
probably correct me or whatever. Uh

2862
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:41,040
probably correct me or whatever. Uh
 

2863
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,349
probably correct me or whatever. Uh
creepy accusation. Yeah, please do. I

2864
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:43,359
creepy accusation. Yeah, please do. I
 

2865
00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:46,390
creepy accusation. Yeah, please do. I
don't uh Chuga Conroy is accused of

2866
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:46,400
don't uh Chuga Conroy is accused of
 

2867
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,069
don't uh Chuga Conroy is accused of
having weird DMs with someone underage

2868
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:50,079
having weird DMs with someone underage
 

2869
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:51,950
having weird DMs with someone underage
and

2870
00:55:51,950 --> 00:55:51,960
and
 

2871
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,750
and
solicitation of uh photographs from Lady

2872
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:55,760
solicitation of uh photographs from Lady
 

2873
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,630
solicitation of uh photographs from Lady
Emily, not this Emily, of uh thieve

2874
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:58,640
Emily, not this Emily, of uh thieve
 

2875
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,030
Emily, not this Emily, of uh thieve
text. That's the accusations. Yeah.

2876
00:56:01,030 --> 00:56:01,040
text. That's the accusations. Yeah.
 

2877
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,829
text. That's the accusations. Yeah.
Right. So, apparently people have said

2878
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:03,839
Right. So, apparently people have said
 

2879
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:06,069
Right. So, apparently people have said
that you've taken his side on this. Uh

2880
00:56:06,069 --> 00:56:06,079
that you've taken his side on this. Uh
 

2881
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:08,789
that you've taken his side on this. Uh
there is a tweet I guess I'll read. Um

2882
00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:08,799
there is a tweet I guess I'll read. Um
 

2883
00:56:08,799 --> 00:56:10,630
there is a tweet I guess I'll read. Um
it's just in a reply to something and I

2884
00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:10,640
it's just in a reply to something and I
 

2885
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:11,750
it's just in a reply to something and I
don't know what the full context is.

2886
00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:11,760
don't know what the full context is.
 

2887
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:12,950
don't know what the full context is.
This is just somebody screenshot and

2888
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:12,960
This is just somebody screenshot and
 

2889
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,589
This is just somebody screenshot and
said this is her defense. Um it says now

2890
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:15,599
said this is her defense. Um it says now
 

2891
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:17,430
said this is her defense. Um it says now
I would understand it easier if this was

2892
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:17,440
I would understand it easier if this was
 

2893
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,030
I would understand it easier if this was
a younger person learning about how

2894
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:19,040
a younger person learning about how
 

2895
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,349
a younger person learning about how
boundaries work, but even with autism,

2896
00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:21,359
boundaries work, but even with autism,
 

2897
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:22,950
boundaries work, but even with autism,
you can't just learn not to mail

2898
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:22,960
you can't just learn not to mail
 

2899
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,789
you can't just learn not to mail
someone's shoes and then ask them for

2900
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:24,799
someone's shoes and then ask them for
 

2901
00:56:24,799 --> 00:56:26,549
someone's shoes and then ask them for
feet pics and trying to sexually

2902
00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:26,559
feet pics and trying to sexually
 

2903
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:28,950
feet pics and trying to sexually
roleplay with friends through it doing

2904
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:28,960
roleplay with friends through it doing
 

2905
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,710
roleplay with friends through it doing
through doing it and being told not to

2906
00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:30,720
through doing it and being told not to
 

2907
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:31,750
through doing it and being told not to
or something like that. So people are

2908
00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:31,760
or something like that. So people are
 

2909
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,910
or something like that. So people are
like this is their defense of that. What

2910
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:33,920
like this is their defense of that. What
 

2911
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,910
like this is their defense of that. What
is your personal connection with Chuga

2912
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:35,920
is your personal connection with Chuga
 

2913
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,670
is your personal connection with Chuga
Conroy and do you stand by anything

2914
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:37,680
Conroy and do you stand by anything
 

2915
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:42,470
Conroy and do you stand by anything
weird that they have done or not done?

2916
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:42,480
weird that they have done or not done?
 

2917
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,390
weird that they have done or not done?
I have no connection with Chuga Conroy.

2918
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:44,400
I have no connection with Chuga Conroy.
 

2919
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,109
I have no connection with Chuga Conroy.
I' I've never known him personally. I

2920
00:56:47,109 --> 00:56:47,119
I' I've never known him personally. I
 

2921
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:48,789
I' I've never known him personally. I
don't I've never worked with him. Just

2922
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:48,799
don't I've never worked with him. Just
 

2923
00:56:48,799 --> 00:56:51,030
don't I've never worked with him. Just
nothing. There's no connection there.

2924
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:51,040
nothing. There's no connection there.
 

2925
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,510
nothing. There's no connection there.
This tweet is actually the opposite.

2926
00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:53,520
This tweet is actually the opposite.
 

2927
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,630
This tweet is actually the opposite.
This is me actually saying, "No, what he

2928
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:56,640
This is me actually saying, "No, what he
 

2929
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,630
This is me actually saying, "No, what he
did is not okay." Because a lot of

2930
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:58,640
did is not okay." Because a lot of
 

2931
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,430
did is not okay." Because a lot of
people online were using his autism as

2932
00:57:01,430 --> 00:57:01,440
people online were using his autism as
 

2933
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,349
people online were using his autism as
an excuse for his behavior. And this was

2934
00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:03,359
an excuse for his behavior. And this was
 

2935
00:57:03,359 --> 00:57:06,309
an excuse for his behavior. And this was
me responding saying, "Uh, no. You know,

2936
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:06,319
me responding saying, "Uh, no. You know,
 

2937
00:57:06,319 --> 00:57:07,910
me responding saying, "Uh, no. You know,
I would get it maybe if this was like a

2938
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:07,920
I would get it maybe if this was like a
 

2939
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,349
I would get it maybe if this was like a
kid or something and they're learning

2940
00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:09,359
kid or something and they're learning
 

2941
00:57:09,359 --> 00:57:12,470
kid or something and they're learning
about certain boundaries, but you don't

2942
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:12,480
about certain boundaries, but you don't
 

2943
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,190
about certain boundaries, but you don't
This is not You shouldn't have to go to

2944
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:15,200
This is not You shouldn't have to go to
 

2945
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,950
This is not You shouldn't have to go to
all of these advances to have to learn

2946
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:16,960
all of these advances to have to learn
 

2947
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,190
all of these advances to have to learn
not to do this. This was actually me

2948
00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:19,200
not to do this. This was actually me
 

2949
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,349
not to do this. This was actually me
[\h__\h] on Chuga Conroy, not defending

2950
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:21,359
[\h__\h] on Chuga Conroy, not defending
 

2951
00:57:21,359 --> 00:57:23,910
[\h__\h] on Chuga Conroy, not defending
him. Gotcha. Okay. I figured that's what

2952
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:23,920
him. Gotcha. Okay. I figured that's what
 

2953
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,349
him. Gotcha. Okay. I figured that's what
it was cuz it doesn't read like a

2954
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:25,359
it was cuz it doesn't read like a
 

2955
00:57:25,359 --> 00:57:27,829
it was cuz it doesn't read like a
defense. Like people are just like, "Uh,

2956
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:27,839
defense. Like people are just like, "Uh,
 

2957
00:57:27,839 --> 00:57:29,430
defense. Like people are just like, "Uh,
oh, this is mostly what they must think

2958
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:29,440
oh, this is mostly what they must think
 

2959
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,109
oh, this is mostly what they must think
of autism." I'm like, "That doesn't read

2960
00:57:31,109 --> 00:57:31,119
of autism." I'm like, "That doesn't read
 

2961
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:32,309
of autism." I'm like, "That doesn't read
like that. It's not like they're being

2962
00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:32,319
like that. It's not like they're being
 

2963
00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:34,470
like that. It's not like they're being
insulting. They're just saying that like

2964
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:34,480
insulting. They're just saying that like
 

2965
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,190
insulting. They're just saying that like
even with autism, you got to don't be

2966
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:37,200
even with autism, you got to don't be
 

2967
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,190
even with autism, you got to don't be
stupid. Like, you know, autism isn't

2968
00:57:39,190 --> 00:57:39,200
stupid. Like, you know, autism isn't
 

2969
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,470
stupid. Like, you know, autism isn't
really an excuse for that.

2970
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:42,480
really an excuse for that.
 

2971
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,630
really an excuse for that.
I'm sorry. I in my opinion, I don't

2972
00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:44,640
I'm sorry. I in my opinion, I don't
 

2973
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,630
I'm sorry. I in my opinion, I don't
think you can use autism as an excuse.

2974
00:57:46,630 --> 00:57:46,640
think you can use autism as an excuse.
 

2975
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,789
think you can use autism as an excuse.
And I that was me responding to people

2976
00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:48,799
And I that was me responding to people
 

2977
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:51,270
And I that was me responding to people
trying to excuse his behavior. Gotcha.

2978
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:51,280
trying to excuse his behavior. Gotcha.
 

2979
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,990
trying to excuse his behavior. Gotcha.
All right. Uh next next creep on the

2980
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:54,000
All right. Uh next next creep on the
 

2981
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,230
All right. Uh next next creep on the
blog. Um you've been in a couple of

2982
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:56,240
blog. Um you've been in a couple of
 

2983
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,030
blog. Um you've been in a couple of
videos with uh Toon Critic. Um, there

2984
00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:59,040
videos with uh Toon Critic. Um, there
 

2985
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,630
videos with uh Toon Critic. Um, there
was a sketch pad interview and

2986
00:58:00,630 --> 00:58:00,640
was a sketch pad interview and
 

2987
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,190
was a sketch pad interview and
apparently he did a cover of Wonderbolt.

2988
00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:03,200
apparently he did a cover of Wonderbolt.
 

2989
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,349
apparently he did a cover of Wonderbolt.
It says piano version by Emily Jones. I

2990
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:05,359
It says piano version by Emily Jones. I
 

2991
00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:06,789
It says piano version by Emily Jones. I
don't know if you guys actually did a

2992
00:58:06,789 --> 00:58:06,799
don't know if you guys actually did a
 

2993
00:58:06,799 --> 00:58:09,190
don't know if you guys actually did a
collaboration, but apparently he sings

2994
00:58:09,190 --> 00:58:09,200
collaboration, but apparently he sings
 

2995
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,710
collaboration, but apparently he sings
Wonderbolt and the piano version was

2996
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:10,720
Wonderbolt and the piano version was
 

2997
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,670
Wonderbolt and the piano version was
apparently by you. Um, I don't think we

2998
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:13,680
apparently by you. Um, I don't think we
 

2999
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,109
apparently by you. Um, I don't think we
need to discuss what Toon Critic did.

3000
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:15,119
need to discuss what Toon Critic did.
 

3001
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:16,549
need to discuss what Toon Critic did.
That's kind of a well-known story at

3002
00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:16,559
That's kind of a well-known story at
 

3003
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:19,670
That's kind of a well-known story at
this point. Thoughts and opinions. What

3004
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:19,680
this point. Thoughts and opinions. What
 

3005
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,470
this point. Thoughts and opinions. What
are what are they?

3006
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:22,480
are what are they?
 

3007
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,789
are what are they?
Okay, so what? Let me quickly explain

3008
00:58:24,789 --> 00:58:24,799
Okay, so what? Let me quickly explain
 

3009
00:58:24,799 --> 00:58:27,750
Okay, so what? Let me quickly explain
the cover thing. Um, that's not So,

3010
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:27,760
the cover thing. Um, that's not So,
 

3011
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,630
the cover thing. Um, that's not So,
that's the piano piece that I used. I

3012
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:30,640
that's the piano piece that I used. I
 

3013
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,549
that's the piano piece that I used. I
collaborated with somebody. He went by

3014
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:32,559
collaborated with somebody. He went by
 

3015
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:35,430
collaborated with somebody. He went by
Ivory Brony, and that is Ivory Brony's

3016
00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:35,440
Ivory Brony, and that is Ivory Brony's
 

3017
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,150
Ivory Brony, and that is Ivory Brony's
piano uh piece that he made for me to

3018
00:58:38,150 --> 00:58:38,160
piano uh piece that he made for me to
 

3019
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,309
piano uh piece that he made for me to
use for a cover of Wonderbolt, which

3020
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:40,319
use for a cover of Wonderbolt, which
 

3021
00:58:40,319 --> 00:58:41,390
use for a cover of Wonderbolt, which
then

3022
00:58:41,390 --> 00:58:41,400
then
 

3023
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,950
then
tune used on his own cover. Um, I have

3024
00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:44,960
tune used on his own cover. Um, I have
 

3025
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,789
tune used on his own cover. Um, I have
nothing to do with that. That was just

3026
00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:46,799
nothing to do with that. That was just
 

3027
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:48,990
nothing to do with that. That was just
uh the instrumentalist made the

3028
00:58:48,990 --> 00:58:49,000
uh the instrumentalist made the
 

3029
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,829
uh the instrumentalist made the
instrumental public and so a couple

3030
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:51,839
instrumental public and so a couple
 

3031
00:58:51,839 --> 00:58:53,270
instrumental public and so a couple
different people used it for their own

3032
00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:53,280
different people used it for their own
 

3033
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,549
different people used it for their own
covers. But yes, he did interview me um

3034
00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:56,559
covers. But yes, he did interview me um
 

3035
00:58:56,559 --> 00:58:59,349
covers. But yes, he did interview me um
at one point, but then yes, eventually

3036
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:59,359
at one point, but then yes, eventually
 

3037
00:58:59,359 --> 00:59:01,670
at one point, but then yes, eventually
uh that information came out about him

3038
00:59:01,670 --> 00:59:01,680
uh that information came out about him
 

3039
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,470
uh that information came out about him
and uh he ran off the internet and I had

3040
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:04,480
and uh he ran off the internet and I had
 

3041
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,230
and uh he ran off the internet and I had
I wanted nothing to do with him at that

3042
00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:06,240
I wanted nothing to do with him at that
 

3043
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,069
I wanted nothing to do with him at that
point. Like absolutely not. That was

3044
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:08,079
point. Like absolutely not. That was
 

3045
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:10,390
point. Like absolutely not. That was
disgusting uh when I found out about

3046
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:10,400
disgusting uh when I found out about
 

3047
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,870
disgusting uh when I found out about
that. And also too, I would later find

3048
00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:12,880
that. And also too, I would later find
 

3049
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,349
that. And also too, I would later find
out from like a a close friend of mine

3050
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:15,359
out from like a a close friend of mine
 

3051
00:59:15,359 --> 00:59:17,750
out from like a a close friend of mine
that this was somebody who was a fan of

3052
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:17,760
that this was somebody who was a fan of
 

3053
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,589
that this was somebody who was a fan of
my work and that made me even more

3054
00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:19,599
my work and that made me even more
 

3055
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:22,870
my work and that made me even more
devastated. So yeah. No. Yeah, it's it's

3056
00:59:22,870 --> 00:59:22,880
devastated. So yeah. No. Yeah, it's it's
 

3057
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,750
devastated. So yeah. No. Yeah, it's it's
gross. It's That's rough. It's Yeah. I

3058
00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:25,760
gross. It's That's rough. It's Yeah. I
 

3059
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,470
gross. It's That's rough. It's Yeah. I
That broke my heart. You didn't have

3060
00:59:28,470 --> 00:59:28,480
That broke my heart. You didn't have
 

3061
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,990
That broke my heart. You didn't have
like any other chance to like confront

3062
00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:30,000
like any other chance to like confront
 

3063
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,349
like any other chance to like confront
him about this or anything or like have

3064
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:31,359
him about this or anything or like have
 

3065
00:59:31,359 --> 00:59:33,829
him about this or anything or like have
a final say like [\h__\h] you, leave me,

3066
00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:33,839
a final say like [\h__\h] you, leave me,
 

3067
00:59:33,839 --> 00:59:35,349
a final say like [\h__\h] you, leave me,
never talk to me again kind of thing or

3068
00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:35,359
never talk to me again kind of thing or
 

3069
00:59:35,359 --> 00:59:37,430
never talk to me again kind of thing or
did he just kind of go whoop bye. You

3070
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:37,440
did he just kind of go whoop bye. You
 

3071
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,710
did he just kind of go whoop bye. You
know, he just Yeah. No, he by the time I

3072
00:59:40,710 --> 00:59:40,720
know, he just Yeah. No, he by the time I
 

3073
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,430
know, he just Yeah. No, he by the time I
saw everything uh all of his stuff like

3074
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:43,440
saw everything uh all of his stuff like
 

3075
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,030
saw everything uh all of his stuff like
I think at this point I don't remember

3076
00:59:45,030 --> 00:59:45,040
I think at this point I don't remember
 

3077
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,470
I think at this point I don't remember
if it was Skype or Discord. I want to

3078
00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:46,480
if it was Skype or Discord. I want to
 

3079
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,670
if it was Skype or Discord. I want to
say Skype, but I I don't remember 100%.

3080
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:49,680
say Skype, but I I don't remember 100%.
 

3081
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,309
say Skype, but I I don't remember 100%.
But he had deleted everything at this

3082
00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:52,319
But he had deleted everything at this
 

3083
00:59:52,319 --> 00:59:54,309
But he had deleted everything at this
point by the time I had read everything.

3084
00:59:54,309 --> 00:59:54,319
point by the time I had read everything.
 

3085
00:59:54,319 --> 00:59:55,990
point by the time I had read everything.
So I remember just going, "Well, yeah,

3086
00:59:55,990 --> 00:59:56,000
So I remember just going, "Well, yeah,
 

3087
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,829
So I remember just going, "Well, yeah,
that takes care of that." You know, [\h__\h]

3088
00:59:57,829 --> 00:59:57,839
that takes care of that." You know, [\h__\h]
 

3089
00:59:57,839 --> 01:00:01,630
that takes care of that." You know, [\h__\h]
that guy. Yeah, he's a piece of [\h__\h]

3090
01:00:01,630 --> 01:00:01,640
that guy. Yeah, he's a piece of [\h__\h]
 

3091
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:06,150
that guy. Yeah, he's a piece of [\h__\h]
Um, next next uh Creep on the Block. Um,

3092
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:06,160
Um, next next uh Creep on the Block. Um,
 

3093
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,349
Um, next next uh Creep on the Block. Um,
Animated James has you um listed

3094
01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:09,359
Animated James has you um listed
 

3095
01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:11,829
Animated James has you um listed
starring in one of his C student uh

3096
01:00:11,829 --> 01:00:11,839
starring in one of his C student uh
 

3097
01:00:11,839 --> 01:00:13,190
starring in one of his C student uh
playlist. I'm not sure what this is. I

3098
01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:13,200
playlist. I'm not sure what this is. I
 

3099
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:14,150
playlist. I'm not sure what this is. I
don't know. I'm not familiar with

3100
01:00:14,150 --> 01:00:14,160
don't know. I'm not familiar with
 

3101
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,109
don't know. I'm not familiar with
Animated James, but um he has you uh

3102
01:00:17,109 --> 01:00:17,119
Animated James, but um he has you uh
 

3103
01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:19,349
Animated James, but um he has you uh
quoted here or not quoted, but starring

3104
01:00:19,349 --> 01:00:19,359
quoted here or not quoted, but starring
 

3105
01:00:19,359 --> 01:00:22,309
quoted here or not quoted, but starring
in a couple of projects of his. Um

3106
01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:22,319
in a couple of projects of his. Um
 

3107
01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:23,670
in a couple of projects of his. Um
Animated James is another one of those

3108
01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:23,680
Animated James is another one of those
 

3109
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,349
Animated James is another one of those
that I'm not too familiar with other

3110
01:00:25,349 --> 01:00:25,359
that I'm not too familiar with other
 

3111
01:00:25,359 --> 01:00:26,710
that I'm not too familiar with other
than I know he has a fart fetish or

3112
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:26,720
than I know he has a fart fetish or
 

3113
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:27,950
than I know he has a fart fetish or
something like

3114
01:00:27,950 --> 01:00:27,960
something like
 

3115
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,589
something like
that. So, the accusations became a

3116
01:00:31,589 --> 01:00:31,599
that. So, the accusations became a
 

3117
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:33,109
that. So, the accusations became a
little bit bigger than that. I don't

3118
01:00:33,109 --> 01:00:33,119
little bit bigger than that. I don't
 

3119
01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:35,829
little bit bigger than that. I don't
know the finer details myself, but it is

3120
01:00:35,829 --> 01:00:35,839
know the finer details myself, but it is
 

3121
01:00:35,839 --> 01:00:37,270
know the finer details myself, but it is
more than a fart fetish. I will say

3122
01:00:37,270 --> 01:00:37,280
more than a fart fetish. I will say
 

3123
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,670
more than a fart fetish. I will say
that. Okay. He's a creep. Thoughts and

3124
01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:39,680
that. Okay. He's a creep. Thoughts and
 

3125
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,190
that. Okay. He's a creep. Thoughts and
opinions, Emily? What do you What do you

3126
01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:41,200
opinions, Emily? What do you What do you
 

3127
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,069
opinions, Emily? What do you What do you
got to say about that?

3128
01:00:44,069 --> 01:00:44,079
got to say about that?
 

3129
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:46,789
got to say about that?
Well, actually I I don't know what these

3130
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:46,799
Well, actually I I don't know what these
 

3131
01:00:46,799 --> 01:00:49,190
Well, actually I I don't know what these
further accusations are. I just remember

3132
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:49,200
further accusations are. I just remember
 

3133
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,950
further accusations are. I just remember
that like so I was on the sea students

3134
01:00:51,950 --> 01:00:51,960
that like so I was on the sea students
 

3135
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,589
that like so I was on the sea students
pilot and then by the time of the second

3136
01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:55,599
pilot and then by the time of the second
 

3137
01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:57,670
pilot and then by the time of the second
episode uh he wanted to go a different

3138
01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:57,680
episode uh he wanted to go a different
 

3139
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,190
episode uh he wanted to go a different
direction with some of his characters.

3140
01:00:59,190 --> 01:00:59,200
direction with some of his characters.
 

3141
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,230
direction with some of his characters.
So I stopped recording for him anyways.

3142
01:01:02,230 --> 01:01:02,240
So I stopped recording for him anyways.
 

3143
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,630
So I stopped recording for him anyways.
And when I by the time I had heard about

3144
01:01:04,630 --> 01:01:04,640
And when I by the time I had heard about
 

3145
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,190
And when I by the time I had heard about
all the fart fetish stuff, he deleted

3146
01:01:07,190 --> 01:01:07,200
all the fart fetish stuff, he deleted
 

3147
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,910
all the fart fetish stuff, he deleted
all of his contact information and ran

3148
01:01:09,910 --> 01:01:09,920
all of his contact information and ran
 

3149
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,230
all of his contact information and ran
off the internet. So, if actually if

3150
01:01:12,230 --> 01:01:12,240
off the internet. So, if actually if
 

3151
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,309
off the internet. So, if actually if
there were other accusations, I don't

3152
01:01:14,309 --> 01:01:14,319
there were other accusations, I don't
 

3153
01:01:14,319 --> 01:01:15,910
there were other accusations, I don't
even know if I've heard them. I just

3154
01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:15,920
even know if I've heard them. I just
 

3155
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,349
even know if I've heard them. I just
remember that he got outed for the

3156
01:01:17,349 --> 01:01:17,359
remember that he got outed for the
 

3157
01:01:17,359 --> 01:01:20,549
remember that he got outed for the
fetish and then ran and I never talked

3158
01:01:20,549 --> 01:01:20,559
fetish and then ran and I never talked
 

3159
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:22,950
fetish and then ran and I never talked
to him again. Right. You just had the

3160
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:22,960
to him again. Right. You just had the
 

3161
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,710
to him again. Right. You just had the
one thing you worked on him for. It was

3162
01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:24,720
one thing you worked on him for. It was
 

3163
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,150
one thing you worked on him for. It was
more like a business relationship. You

3164
01:01:26,150 --> 01:01:26,160
more like a business relationship. You
 

3165
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,670
more like a business relationship. You
guys weren't like friends or anything

3166
01:01:29,670 --> 01:01:29,680
guys weren't like friends or anything
 

3167
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,190
guys weren't like friends or anything
pretty much. Yeah. I mean, like we had

3168
01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:31,200
pretty much. Yeah. I mean, like we had
 

3169
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,549
pretty much. Yeah. I mean, like we had
talked a few times like I remember

3170
01:01:32,549 --> 01:01:32,559
talked a few times like I remember
 

3171
01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:34,230
talked a few times like I remember
seeing him at at like conventions and

3172
01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:34,240
seeing him at at like conventions and
 

3173
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:35,990
seeing him at at like conventions and
stuff and he seemed fine. He seemed

3174
01:01:35,990 --> 01:01:36,000
stuff and he seemed fine. He seemed
 

3175
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,549
stuff and he seemed fine. He seemed
nice, but you know, you don't always

3176
01:01:38,549 --> 01:01:38,559
nice, but you know, you don't always
 

3177
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:40,230
nice, but you know, you don't always
know. You know, this was mostly a

3178
01:01:40,230 --> 01:01:40,240
know. You know, this was mostly a
 

3179
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,230
know. You know, this was mostly a
working relationship where I just did

3180
01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:42,240
working relationship where I just did
 

3181
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,910
working relationship where I just did
this thing for C students. And

3182
01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:43,920
this thing for C students. And
 

3183
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,230
this thing for C students. And
beforehand, he was going to have me do

3184
01:01:46,230 --> 01:01:46,240
beforehand, he was going to have me do
 

3185
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,870
beforehand, he was going to have me do
one of those Sonic versus My Little Pony

3186
01:01:48,870 --> 01:01:48,880
one of those Sonic versus My Little Pony
 

3187
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,710
one of those Sonic versus My Little Pony
character things, but it wound up

3188
01:01:50,710 --> 01:01:50,720
character things, but it wound up
 

3189
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,589
character things, but it wound up
falling through. Gotcha. All right. I'd

3190
01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:53,599
falling through. Gotcha. All right. I'd
 

3191
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:55,190
falling through. Gotcha. All right. I'd
like to interject right here because I

3192
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:55,200
like to interject right here because I
 

3193
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,710
like to interject right here because I
know that people will mention this if I

3194
01:01:56,710 --> 01:01:56,720
know that people will mention this if I
 

3195
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,950
know that people will mention this if I
don't. Emily Jones has also worked with

3196
01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:58,960
don't. Emily Jones has also worked with
 

3197
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,789
don't. Emily Jones has also worked with
Mando Pony in the past. I don't need to

3198
01:02:00,789 --> 01:02:00,799
Mando Pony in the past. I don't need to
 

3199
01:02:00,799 --> 01:02:02,309
Mando Pony in the past. I don't need to
go into what he's accused of here

3200
01:02:02,309 --> 01:02:02,319
go into what he's accused of here
 

3201
01:02:02,319 --> 01:02:04,309
go into what he's accused of here
because I talk about that in the actual

3202
01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:04,319
because I talk about that in the actual
 

3203
01:02:04,319 --> 01:02:07,109
because I talk about that in the actual
video, but we were planning on asking

3204
01:02:07,109 --> 01:02:07,119
video, but we were planning on asking
 

3205
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:09,670
video, but we were planning on asking
Emily about him. It's simply slipped out

3206
01:02:09,670 --> 01:02:09,680
Emily about him. It's simply slipped out
 

3207
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,829
Emily about him. It's simply slipped out
of the list that has 20 million things

3208
01:02:11,829 --> 01:02:11,839
of the list that has 20 million things
 

3209
01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:14,069
of the list that has 20 million things
on it. If you want my personal opinion,

3210
01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:14,079
on it. If you want my personal opinion,
 

3211
01:02:14,079 --> 01:02:15,750
on it. If you want my personal opinion,
we shouldn't hold collaborations with

3212
01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:15,760
we shouldn't hold collaborations with
 

3213
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,430
we shouldn't hold collaborations with
people before their controversies

3214
01:02:17,430 --> 01:02:17,440
people before their controversies
 

3215
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,190
people before their controversies
against others. It's one of the reasons

3216
01:02:19,190 --> 01:02:19,200
against others. It's one of the reasons
 

3217
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:20,390
against others. It's one of the reasons
that I'm calling a lot of the

3218
01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:20,400
that I'm calling a lot of the
 

3219
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,630
that I'm calling a lot of the
information out there dubious. Bringing

3220
01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:22,640
information out there dubious. Bringing
 

3221
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,630
information out there dubious. Bringing
up the fact that Emily Jones worked with

3222
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:24,640
up the fact that Emily Jones worked with
 

3223
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,109
up the fact that Emily Jones worked with
Toon Critic is just not a good point

3224
01:02:27,109 --> 01:02:27,119
Toon Critic is just not a good point
 

3225
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:30,150
Toon Critic is just not a good point
against her. Everyone worked with Toon

3226
01:02:30,150 --> 01:02:30,160
against her. Everyone worked with Toon
 

3227
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,230
against her. Everyone worked with Toon
Critic when he was relevant. It's one of

3228
01:02:32,230 --> 01:02:32,240
Critic when he was relevant. It's one of
 

3229
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,230
Critic when he was relevant. It's one of
the things that people like Toon Critic

3230
01:02:34,230 --> 01:02:34,240
the things that people like Toon Critic
 

3231
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,109
the things that people like Toon Critic
do. They're fantastic at networking.

3232
01:02:37,109 --> 01:02:37,119
do. They're fantastic at networking.
 

3233
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:39,030
do. They're fantastic at networking.
Cosmodor also did it too. They

3234
01:02:39,030 --> 01:02:39,040
Cosmodor also did it too. They
 

3235
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,270
Cosmodor also did it too. They
ingratiate themselves to a community and

3236
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:41,280
ingratiate themselves to a community and
 

3237
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,150
ingratiate themselves to a community and
get associations with everyone. Let's

3238
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:44,160
get associations with everyone. Let's
 

3239
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,190
get associations with everyone. Let's
talk about Wrath of Nazo. Um so Wrath of

3240
01:02:47,190 --> 01:02:47,200
talk about Wrath of Nazo. Um so Wrath of
 

3241
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,710
talk about Wrath of Nazo. Um so Wrath of
Nazo was a fan project um started up by

3242
01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:50,720
Nazo was a fan project um started up by
 

3243
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,470
Nazo was a fan project um started up by
a couple of names that will be brought

3244
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:52,480
a couple of names that will be brought
 

3245
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,789
a couple of names that will be brought
back up later. Um one of those being

3246
01:02:54,789 --> 01:02:54,799
back up later. Um one of those being
 

3247
01:02:54,799 --> 01:02:57,990
back up later. Um one of those being
Gamer Guide Seven Aces. I never know how

3248
01:02:57,990 --> 01:02:58,000
Gamer Guide Seven Aces. I never know how
 

3249
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,430
Gamer Guide Seven Aces. I never know how
to say his name. Um,

3250
01:03:00,430 --> 01:03:00,440
to say his name. Um,
 

3251
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,430
to say his name. Um,
and one of the lead actors was this guy

3252
01:03:03,430 --> 01:03:03,440
and one of the lead actors was this guy
 

3253
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,109
and one of the lead actors was this guy
by the name of Spirit of the Blue, who

3254
01:03:05,109 --> 01:03:05,119
by the name of Spirit of the Blue, who
 

3255
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:08,069
by the name of Spirit of the Blue, who
was apparently voicing Sonic. Um, and

3256
01:03:08,069 --> 01:03:08,079
was apparently voicing Sonic. Um, and
 

3257
01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:09,990
was apparently voicing Sonic. Um, and
this leads to a little bit of a spat you

3258
01:03:09,990 --> 01:03:10,000
this leads to a little bit of a spat you
 

3259
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,109
this leads to a little bit of a spat you
had with Blue-Eyed Fox, who accused you

3260
01:03:13,109 --> 01:03:13,119
had with Blue-Eyed Fox, who accused you
 

3261
01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:15,349
had with Blue-Eyed Fox, who accused you
of apparently sleeping with Spirit of

3262
01:03:15,349 --> 01:03:15,359
of apparently sleeping with Spirit of
 

3263
01:03:15,359 --> 01:03:17,829
of apparently sleeping with Spirit of
the Blue in order to get um, a voice

3264
01:03:17,829 --> 01:03:17,839
the Blue in order to get um, a voice
 

3265
01:03:17,839 --> 01:03:21,430
the Blue in order to get um, a voice
role over them. Um, I don't know if it

3266
01:03:21,430 --> 01:03:21,440
role over them. Um, I don't know if it
 

3267
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,150
role over them. Um, I don't know if it
was directly um for Wrath of Nazo

3268
01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:24,160
was directly um for Wrath of Nazo
 

3269
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,510
was directly um for Wrath of Nazo
exactly, but they do mention the tail uh

3270
01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:27,520
exactly, but they do mention the tail uh
 

3271
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,309
exactly, but they do mention the tail uh
tales for misadventures in their uh

3272
01:03:30,309 --> 01:03:30,319
tales for misadventures in their uh
 

3273
01:03:30,319 --> 01:03:32,950
tales for misadventures in their uh
their DMs. Um, people ask him about it.

3274
01:03:32,950 --> 01:03:32,960
their DMs. Um, people ask him about it.
 

3275
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,029
their DMs. Um, people ask him about it.
So, let's let's talk about Wrath of Nazo

3276
01:03:36,029 --> 01:03:36,039
So, let's let's talk about Wrath of Nazo
 

3277
01:03:36,039 --> 01:03:39,430
So, let's let's talk about Wrath of Nazo
um your whole thing with Blue-Eyed Fox.

3278
01:03:39,430 --> 01:03:39,440
um your whole thing with Blue-Eyed Fox.
 

3279
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,349
um your whole thing with Blue-Eyed Fox.
First of all, let's just get this out of

3280
01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:41,359
First of all, let's just get this out of
 

3281
01:03:41,359 --> 01:03:42,950
First of all, let's just get this out of
the way. What is your relationship with

3282
01:03:42,950 --> 01:03:42,960
the way. What is your relationship with
 

3283
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,829
the way. What is your relationship with
Spirit of the Blue exactly?

3284
01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:45,839
Spirit of the Blue exactly?
 

3285
01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:47,589
Spirit of the Blue exactly?
Oh, man. So yeah, Spirit of the Blue was

3286
01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:47,599
Oh, man. So yeah, Spirit of the Blue was
 

3287
01:03:47,599 --> 01:03:50,069
Oh, man. So yeah, Spirit of the Blue was
a guy who I was friends with uh for a

3288
01:03:50,069 --> 01:03:50,079
a guy who I was friends with uh for a
 

3289
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:53,270
a guy who I was friends with uh for a
while. He did Sonic, you're right, for

3290
01:03:53,270 --> 01:03:53,280
while. He did Sonic, you're right, for
 

3291
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,829
while. He did Sonic, you're right, for
Wrath of Nazo, but he also did Sonic for

3292
01:03:55,829 --> 01:03:55,839
Wrath of Nazo, but he also did Sonic for
 

3293
01:03:55,839 --> 01:03:58,789
Wrath of Nazo, but he also did Sonic for
this other uh project called um Sonic

3294
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:58,799
this other uh project called um Sonic
 

3295
01:03:58,799 --> 01:04:01,190
this other uh project called um Sonic
Misadventures. And so all of this is

3296
01:04:01,190 --> 01:04:01,200
Misadventures. And so all of this is
 

3297
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,510
Misadventures. And so all of this is
actually tied to Sonic Misadventures

3298
01:04:03,510 --> 01:04:03,520
actually tied to Sonic Misadventures
 

3299
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,470
actually tied to Sonic Misadventures
directly. Um I've never been on Wrath of

3300
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:06,480
directly. Um I've never been on Wrath of
 

3301
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,829
directly. Um I've never been on Wrath of
Nazo. Like that was not I have never

3302
01:04:09,829 --> 01:04:09,839
Nazo. Like that was not I have never
 

3303
01:04:09,839 --> 01:04:11,190
Nazo. Like that was not I have never
been on that project. That was not a

3304
01:04:11,190 --> 01:04:11,200
been on that project. That was not a
 

3305
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,349
been on that project. That was not a
conversation that's unrelated. I think

3306
01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:13,359
conversation that's unrelated. I think
 

3307
01:04:13,359 --> 01:04:15,710
conversation that's unrelated. I think
that came from maybe a weird game of

3308
01:04:15,710 --> 01:04:15,720
that came from maybe a weird game of
 

3309
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:21,270
that came from maybe a weird game of
telephone. Um but the project that um

3310
01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:21,280
telephone. Um but the project that um
 

3311
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,109
telephone. Um but the project that um
we're referring to is Sonic

3312
01:04:23,109 --> 01:04:23,119
we're referring to is Sonic
 

3313
01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:24,789
we're referring to is Sonic
Misadventures. This was something that

3314
01:04:24,789 --> 01:04:24,799
Misadventures. This was something that
 

3315
01:04:24,799 --> 01:04:27,750
Misadventures. This was something that
was headed by uh actually my friend Matt

3316
01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:27,760
was headed by uh actually my friend Matt
 

3317
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,510
was headed by uh actually my friend Matt
was one of them and then a few other

3318
01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:29,520
was one of them and then a few other
 

3319
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,630
was one of them and then a few other
names as well. And basically Blue-Eyed

3320
01:04:32,630 --> 01:04:32,640
names as well. And basically Blue-Eyed
 

3321
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,589
names as well. And basically Blue-Eyed
Fox uh was kicked off of the team

3322
01:04:35,589 --> 01:04:35,599
Fox uh was kicked off of the team
 

3323
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:37,829
Fox uh was kicked off of the team
because she was causing a bunch of

3324
01:04:37,829 --> 01:04:37,839
because she was causing a bunch of
 

3325
01:04:37,839 --> 01:04:39,910
because she was causing a bunch of
different issues. She was causing drama.

3326
01:04:39,910 --> 01:04:39,920
different issues. She was causing drama.
 

3327
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,190
different issues. She was causing drama.
this was something that Spirit of the

3328
01:04:41,190 --> 01:04:41,200
this was something that Spirit of the
 

3329
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,589
this was something that Spirit of the
Blue would actually bring up to me and I

3330
01:04:43,589 --> 01:04:43,599
Blue would actually bring up to me and I
 

3331
01:04:43,599 --> 01:04:45,029
Blue would actually bring up to me and I
would just do my best to kind of support

3332
01:04:45,029 --> 01:04:45,039
would just do my best to kind of support
 

3333
01:04:45,039 --> 01:04:46,230
would just do my best to kind of support
him through it. Like, yeah, you know,

3334
01:04:46,230 --> 01:04:46,240
him through it. Like, yeah, you know,
 

3335
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,069
him through it. Like, yeah, you know,
I'm really sorry. I I don't know this

3336
01:04:48,069 --> 01:04:48,079
I'm really sorry. I I don't know this
 

3337
01:04:48,079 --> 01:04:49,510
I'm really sorry. I I don't know this
person, but I, you know, I hope things

3338
01:04:49,510 --> 01:04:49,520
person, but I, you know, I hope things
 

3339
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,270
person, but I, you know, I hope things
get better. And eventually, at some

3340
01:04:51,270 --> 01:04:51,280
get better. And eventually, at some
 

3341
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,190
get better. And eventually, at some
point, they they kicked her for all of

3342
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:53,200
point, they they kicked her for all of
 

3343
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,630
point, they they kicked her for all of
this drama. And, uh, at that point, they

3344
01:04:56,630 --> 01:04:56,640
this drama. And, uh, at that point, they
 

3345
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,349
this drama. And, uh, at that point, they
needed a new Tales. So, they did a

3346
01:04:59,349 --> 01:04:59,359
needed a new Tales. So, they did a
 

3347
01:04:59,359 --> 01:05:02,710
needed a new Tales. So, they did a
public audition. They actually we it was

3348
01:05:02,710 --> 01:05:02,720
public audition. They actually we it was
 

3349
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,069
public audition. They actually we it was
a public vote. So, there was three

3350
01:05:04,069 --> 01:05:04,079
a public vote. So, there was three
 

3351
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:06,789
a public vote. So, there was three
different Tales actresses, and I was

3352
01:05:06,789 --> 01:05:06,799
different Tales actresses, and I was
 

3353
01:05:06,799 --> 01:05:09,589
different Tales actresses, and I was
actress number two. and people on

3354
01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:09,599
actress number two. and people on
 

3355
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:11,990
actress number two. and people on
Twitter publicly voted who they wanted

3356
01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:12,000
Twitter publicly voted who they wanted
 

3357
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,950
Twitter publicly voted who they wanted
on uh the role for Misadventures and I

3358
01:05:14,950 --> 01:05:14,960
on uh the role for Misadventures and I
 

3359
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,589
on uh the role for Misadventures and I
just so happened to be voted in. Um this

3360
01:05:17,589 --> 01:05:17,599
just so happened to be voted in. Um this
 

3361
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:21,270
just so happened to be voted in. Um this
would cause a huge issue between, you

3362
01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:21,280
would cause a huge issue between, you
 

3363
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,510
would cause a huge issue between, you
know, Blue-Eyed Fox and I where she had

3364
01:05:23,510 --> 01:05:23,520
know, Blue-Eyed Fox and I where she had
 

3365
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,190
know, Blue-Eyed Fox and I where she had
accused me of stealing this role from

3366
01:05:25,190 --> 01:05:25,200
accused me of stealing this role from
 

3367
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,910
accused me of stealing this role from
her, taking it from her, uh sleeping my

3368
01:05:27,910 --> 01:05:27,920
her, taking it from her, uh sleeping my
 

3369
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,990
her, taking it from her, uh sleeping my
way to the top so I could get it. And

3370
01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:30,000
way to the top so I could get it. And
 

3371
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,789
way to the top so I could get it. And
this was not the case. You know, Spirit

3372
01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:32,799
this was not the case. You know, Spirit
 

3373
01:05:32,799 --> 01:05:35,430
this was not the case. You know, Spirit
didn't even have control of who was on

3374
01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:35,440
didn't even have control of who was on
 

3375
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,349
didn't even have control of who was on
the cast. you know, this this had

3376
01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:37,359
the cast. you know, this this had
 

3377
01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:39,349
the cast. you know, this this had
nothing to really do with that. This was

3378
01:05:39,349 --> 01:05:39,359
nothing to really do with that. This was
 

3379
01:05:39,359 --> 01:05:42,549
nothing to really do with that. This was
everybody else who wanted me on there.

3380
01:05:42,549 --> 01:05:42,559
everybody else who wanted me on there.
 

3381
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:46,549
everybody else who wanted me on there.
Um, but once I had gotten that role, it

3382
01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:46,559
Um, but once I had gotten that role, it
 

3383
01:05:46,559 --> 01:05:49,589
Um, but once I had gotten that role, it
wound up causing uh, sorry, Blue-Eyed

3384
01:05:49,589 --> 01:05:49,599
wound up causing uh, sorry, Blue-Eyed
 

3385
01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:52,349
wound up causing uh, sorry, Blue-Eyed
Fox to kind of develop this

3386
01:05:52,349 --> 01:05:52,359
Fox to kind of develop this
 

3387
01:05:52,359 --> 01:05:56,309
Fox to kind of develop this
very one-sided uh, hatred for me. This

3388
01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:56,319
very one-sided uh, hatred for me. This
 

3389
01:05:56,319 --> 01:05:59,430
very one-sided uh, hatred for me. This
would cause her to start constantly

3390
01:05:59,430 --> 01:05:59,440
would cause her to start constantly
 

3391
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,349
would cause her to start constantly
posting about me. She actually became

3392
01:06:01,349 --> 01:06:01,359
posting about me. She actually became
 

3393
01:06:01,359 --> 01:06:03,990
posting about me. She actually became
friends with Lizzy because of you know

3394
01:06:03,990 --> 01:06:04,000
friends with Lizzy because of you know
 

3395
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,150
friends with Lizzy because of you know
you know the enemy or the enemy of my

3396
01:06:06,150 --> 01:06:06,160
you know the enemy or the enemy of my
 

3397
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,589
you know the enemy or the enemy of my
enemy is my friend type of deal. Um so

3398
01:06:09,589 --> 01:06:09,599
enemy is my friend type of deal. Um so
 

3399
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:11,349
enemy is my friend type of deal. Um so
the two of them started kind of working

3400
01:06:11,349 --> 01:06:11,359
the two of them started kind of working
 

3401
01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:13,910
the two of them started kind of working
together to reach out to people and tell

3402
01:06:13,910 --> 01:06:13,920
together to reach out to people and tell
 

3403
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,670
together to reach out to people and tell
people don't don't work with this girl.

3404
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:15,680
people don't don't work with this girl.
 

3405
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,510
people don't don't work with this girl.
She's evil. She's done she stole my

3406
01:06:17,510 --> 01:06:17,520
She's evil. She's done she stole my
 

3407
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,589
She's evil. She's done she stole my
role. Um, this would cause her to uh do

3408
01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:21,599
role. Um, this would cause her to uh do
 

3409
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:24,309
role. Um, this would cause her to uh do
a lot of really awful things. Like she

3410
01:06:24,309 --> 01:06:24,319
a lot of really awful things. Like she
 

3411
01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:26,950
a lot of really awful things. Like she
made a a Discord server that she would

3412
01:06:26,950 --> 01:06:26,960
made a a Discord server that she would
 

3413
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,109
made a a Discord server that she would
bring people into and it was dedicated

3414
01:06:29,109 --> 01:06:29,119
bring people into and it was dedicated
 

3415
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:31,510
bring people into and it was dedicated
to we're going to put all these horribly

3416
01:06:31,510 --> 01:06:31,520
to we're going to put all these horribly
 

3417
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,349
to we're going to put all these horribly
damning things out about her. We're

3418
01:06:33,349 --> 01:06:33,359
damning things out about her. We're
 

3419
01:06:33,359 --> 01:06:35,589
damning things out about her. We're
going to make a website about her. We're

3420
01:06:35,589 --> 01:06:35,599
going to make a website about her. We're
 

3421
01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:38,230
going to make a website about her. We're
in they're photoshopping pictures of me

3422
01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:38,240
in they're photoshopping pictures of me
 

3423
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,630
in they're photoshopping pictures of me
primarily blue-eyed. She's photoshopping

3424
01:06:40,630 --> 01:06:40,640
primarily blue-eyed. She's photoshopping
 

3425
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,710
primarily blue-eyed. She's photoshopping
photos of me, you know, with bruises all

3426
01:06:42,710 --> 01:06:42,720
photos of me, you know, with bruises all
 

3427
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,109
photos of me, you know, with bruises all
over my body. She's photoshopping semen

3428
01:06:45,109 --> 01:06:45,119
over my body. She's photoshopping semen
 

3429
01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:47,829
over my body. She's photoshopping semen
on my face. She's photoshopping me to

3430
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:47,839
on my face. She's photoshopping me to
 

3431
01:06:47,839 --> 01:06:50,230
on my face. She's photoshopping me to
look like like Frankenstein, you know,

3432
01:06:50,230 --> 01:06:50,240
look like like Frankenstein, you know,
 

3433
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,789
look like like Frankenstein, you know,
and and at one point even posting them

3434
01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:52,799
and and at one point even posting them
 

3435
01:06:52,799 --> 01:06:54,870
and and at one point even posting them
and making like it her public Twitter

3436
01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:54,880
and making like it her public Twitter
 

3437
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,470
and making like it her public Twitter
banner and she changed her name to like

3438
01:06:56,470 --> 01:06:56,480
banner and she changed her name to like
 

3439
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:00,710
banner and she changed her name to like
the True Tales and um at one point, you

3440
01:07:00,710 --> 01:07:00,720
the True Tales and um at one point, you
 

3441
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,870
the True Tales and um at one point, you
know, it had gotten really really scary

3442
01:07:02,870 --> 01:07:02,880
know, it had gotten really really scary
 

3443
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,510
know, it had gotten really really scary
because um all this was kind of going

3444
01:07:05,510 --> 01:07:05,520
because um all this was kind of going
 

3445
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,309
because um all this was kind of going
on. There was even a point and this is a

3446
01:07:08,309 --> 01:07:08,319
on. There was even a point and this is a
 

3447
01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:09,910
on. There was even a point and this is a
different private account. I had had

3448
01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:09,920
different private account. I had had
 

3449
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,910
different private account. I had had
again, geez, horrible experience with

3450
01:07:11,910 --> 01:07:11,920
again, geez, horrible experience with
 

3451
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,270
again, geez, horrible experience with
private accounts, but um I had one and

3452
01:07:15,270 --> 01:07:15,280
private accounts, but um I had one and
 

3453
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:16,789
private accounts, but um I had one and
it was like a general one for just all

3454
01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:16,799
it was like a general one for just all
 

3455
01:07:16,799 --> 01:07:19,349
it was like a general one for just all
of my friends. Uh very different to the

3456
01:07:19,349 --> 01:07:19,359
of my friends. Uh very different to the
 

3457
01:07:19,359 --> 01:07:21,670
of my friends. Uh very different to the
the other one in relation to Ryan. That

3458
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:21,680
the other one in relation to Ryan. That
 

3459
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,430
the other one in relation to Ryan. That
was a much smaller space, but this was

3460
01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:23,440
was a much smaller space, but this was
 

3461
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,230
was a much smaller space, but this was
like kind of all of my friends and uh a

3462
01:07:26,230 --> 01:07:26,240
like kind of all of my friends and uh a
 

3463
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:27,390
like kind of all of my friends and uh a
friend of

3464
01:07:27,390 --> 01:07:27,400
friend of
 

3465
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,309
friend of
mine who we had our own kind of spat

3466
01:07:30,309 --> 01:07:30,319
mine who we had our own kind of spat
 

3467
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:31,750
mine who we had our own kind of spat
because we were kind of politically

3468
01:07:31,750 --> 01:07:31,760
because we were kind of politically
 

3469
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,349
because we were kind of politically
arguing. We had a lot of political

3470
01:07:33,349 --> 01:07:33,359
arguing. We had a lot of political
 

3471
01:07:33,359 --> 01:07:35,349
arguing. We had a lot of political
issues like he was very for Trump and

3472
01:07:35,349 --> 01:07:35,359
issues like he was very for Trump and
 

3473
01:07:35,359 --> 01:07:37,430
issues like he was very for Trump and
I'm just very liberal.

3474
01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:37,440
I'm just very liberal.
 

3475
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,630
I'm just very liberal.
um we had our own problems and then he

3476
01:07:40,630 --> 01:07:40,640
um we had our own problems and then he
 

3477
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,349
um we had our own problems and then he
became friends with her and he gave

3478
01:07:43,349 --> 01:07:43,359
became friends with her and he gave
 

3479
01:07:43,359 --> 01:07:46,390
became friends with her and he gave
access to his account to Blueeyed so

3480
01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:46,400
access to his account to Blueeyed so
 

3481
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,870
access to his account to Blueeyed so
that she could read through my private

3482
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:48,880
that she could read through my private
 

3483
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,190
that she could read through my private
account and even you know got a hold of

3484
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:51,200
account and even you know got a hold of
 

3485
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,510
account and even you know got a hold of
this photo that was meant for you know

3486
01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:53,520
this photo that was meant for you know
 

3487
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:57,750
this photo that was meant for you know
ingest. It was um this a picture that of

3488
01:07:57,750 --> 01:07:57,760
ingest. It was um this a picture that of
 

3489
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,309
ingest. It was um this a picture that of
a gag gift that I had from a friend of

3490
01:08:00,309 --> 01:08:00,319
a gag gift that I had from a friend of
 

3491
01:08:00,319 --> 01:08:03,309
a gag gift that I had from a friend of
mine. It was a a purple suction cuped

3492
01:08:03,309 --> 01:08:03,319
mine. It was a a purple suction cuped
 

3493
01:08:03,319 --> 01:08:06,309
mine. It was a a purple suction cuped
dildo. I put it on my knee and I took a

3494
01:08:06,309 --> 01:08:06,319
dildo. I put it on my knee and I took a
 

3495
01:08:06,319 --> 01:08:08,309
dildo. I put it on my knee and I took a
picture of it for this account because

3496
01:08:08,309 --> 01:08:08,319
picture of it for this account because
 

3497
01:08:08,319 --> 01:08:10,630
picture of it for this account because
it was just supposed to be funny and

3498
01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:10,640
it was just supposed to be funny and
 

3499
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,870
it was just supposed to be funny and
blue-eyed, you know, she screenshot this

3500
01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:12,880
blue-eyed, you know, she screenshot this
 

3501
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:13,789
blue-eyed, you know, she screenshot this
and

3502
01:08:13,789 --> 01:08:13,799
and
 

3503
01:08:13,799 --> 01:08:15,910
and
she spread it around to different

3504
01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:15,920
she spread it around to different
 

3505
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,189
she spread it around to different
people. She gave it to like this

3506
01:08:17,189 --> 01:08:17,199
people. She gave it to like this
 

3507
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:19,749
people. She gave it to like this
12-year-old boy who tweeted it at me.

3508
01:08:19,749 --> 01:08:19,759
12-year-old boy who tweeted it at me.
 

3509
01:08:19,759 --> 01:08:22,229
12-year-old boy who tweeted it at me.
She was, it was just, it had gotten

3510
01:08:22,229 --> 01:08:22,239
She was, it was just, it had gotten
 

3511
01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:24,870
She was, it was just, it had gotten
everywhere and people were starting to

3512
01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:24,880
everywhere and people were starting to
 

3513
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,669
everywhere and people were starting to
[\h__\h] shame me. people were making weird

3514
01:08:27,669 --> 01:08:27,679
[\h__\h] shame me. people were making weird
 

3515
01:08:27,679 --> 01:08:30,550
[\h__\h] shame me. people were making weird
assumptions about, you know, I guess the

3516
01:08:30,550 --> 01:08:30,560
assumptions about, you know, I guess the
 

3517
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,789
assumptions about, you know, I guess the
the morality standpoint of owning a

3518
01:08:32,789 --> 01:08:32,799
the morality standpoint of owning a
 

3519
01:08:32,799 --> 01:08:35,349
the morality standpoint of owning a
dildo but also being a parent as if

3520
01:08:35,349 --> 01:08:35,359
dildo but also being a parent as if
 

3521
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:38,070
dildo but also being a parent as if
those two can clash in some kind of way.

3522
01:08:38,070 --> 01:08:38,080
those two can clash in some kind of way.
 

3523
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,709
those two can clash in some kind of way.
Um, it caused a lot of different things.

3524
01:08:40,709 --> 01:08:40,719
Um, it caused a lot of different things.
 

3525
01:08:40,719 --> 01:08:42,550
Um, it caused a lot of different things.
Uh, blue-eyed, you know, she was

3526
01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:42,560
Uh, blue-eyed, you know, she was
 

3527
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,030
Uh, blue-eyed, you know, she was
somebody who I was

3528
01:08:44,030 --> 01:08:44,040
somebody who I was
 

3529
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,550
somebody who I was
genuinely fearful of because her

3530
01:08:46,550 --> 01:08:46,560
genuinely fearful of because her
 

3531
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,749
genuinely fearful of because her
behavior was just

3532
01:08:48,749 --> 01:08:48,759
behavior was just
 

3533
01:08:48,759 --> 01:08:52,550
behavior was just
so unhinged. You know, there was, you

3534
01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:52,560
so unhinged. You know, there was, you
 

3535
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,390
so unhinged. You know, there was, you
know, like there were even comment uh

3536
01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:54,400
know, like there were even comment uh
 

3537
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,510
know, like there were even comment uh
conversations that eventually had leaked

3538
01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:57,520
conversations that eventually had leaked
 

3539
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,829
conversations that eventually had leaked
from her server where she's making

3540
01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:59,839
from her server where she's making
 

3541
01:08:59,839 --> 01:09:03,789
from her server where she's making
sexual comments like towards me,

3542
01:09:03,789 --> 01:09:03,799
sexual comments like towards me,
 

3543
01:09:03,799 --> 01:09:07,669
sexual comments like towards me,
but with my child in mind, saying, "Oh,

3544
01:09:07,669 --> 01:09:07,679
but with my child in mind, saying, "Oh,
 

3545
01:09:07,679 --> 01:09:10,070
but with my child in mind, saying, "Oh,
she she probably named her daughter Lucy

3546
01:09:10,070 --> 01:09:10,080
she she probably named her daughter Lucy
 

3547
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,309
she she probably named her daughter Lucy
because she has a loose vagina and she's

3548
01:09:12,309 --> 01:09:12,319
because she has a loose vagina and she's
 

3549
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:14,470
because she has a loose vagina and she's
loose." And you know, and it's just how

3550
01:09:14,470 --> 01:09:14,480
loose." And you know, and it's just how
 

3551
01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:17,189
loose." And you know, and it's just how
would you you make a comment at this

3552
01:09:17,189 --> 01:09:17,199
would you you make a comment at this
 

3553
01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:19,590
would you you make a comment at this
point? You know, my kid is five. Yeah.

3554
01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:19,600
point? You know, my kid is five. Yeah.
 

3555
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,229
point? You know, my kid is five. Yeah.
You know, you're making a sexual remark.

3556
01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:22,239
You know, you're making a sexual remark.
 

3557
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:25,030
You know, you're making a sexual remark.
You know, it's towards me, but it's with

3558
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:25,040
You know, it's towards me, but it's with
 

3559
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,709
You know, it's towards me, but it's with
a child. You didn't have to bring the

3560
01:09:26,709 --> 01:09:26,719
a child. You didn't have to bring the
 

3561
01:09:26,719 --> 01:09:28,709
a child. You didn't have to bring the
name up. Like, it could have just been

3562
01:09:28,709 --> 01:09:28,719
name up. Like, it could have just been
 

3563
01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:30,070
name up. Like, it could have just been
towards you and you didn't have to talk

3564
01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:30,080
towards you and you didn't have to talk
 

3565
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,789
towards you and you didn't have to talk
about her kid at all kind of thing.

3566
01:09:32,789 --> 01:09:32,799
about her kid at all kind of thing.
 

3567
01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:36,550
about her kid at all kind of thing.
Yeah. No, and that was just I mean, it's

3568
01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:36,560
Yeah. No, and that was just I mean, it's
 

3569
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,229
Yeah. No, and that was just I mean, it's
just I I don't know how else to describe

3570
01:09:38,229 --> 01:09:38,239
just I I don't know how else to describe
 

3571
01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:41,110
just I I don't know how else to describe
it apart from unhinged. This was not

3572
01:09:41,110 --> 01:09:41,120
it apart from unhinged. This was not
 

3573
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,349
it apart from unhinged. This was not
something I took from her. This was

3574
01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:43,359
something I took from her. This was
 

3575
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:45,430
something I took from her. This was
something that she got kicked off for

3576
01:09:45,430 --> 01:09:45,440
something that she got kicked off for
 

3577
01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:47,349
something that she got kicked off for
causing drama and I just so happened to

3578
01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:47,359
causing drama and I just so happened to
 

3579
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:50,309
causing drama and I just so happened to
get voted in, you know, and since then

3580
01:09:50,309 --> 01:09:50,319
get voted in, you know, and since then
 

3581
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:52,550
get voted in, you know, and since then
she actually attempted to do this with

3582
01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:52,560
she actually attempted to do this with
 

3583
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,110
she actually attempted to do this with
other people. She reached out to like a

3584
01:09:55,110 --> 01:09:55,120
other people. She reached out to like a
 

3585
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:56,950
other people. She reached out to like a
content creator who I had collaborated

3586
01:09:56,950 --> 01:09:56,960
content creator who I had collaborated
 

3587
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,390
content creator who I had collaborated
with on like an animated piece and she

3588
01:10:00,390 --> 01:10:00,400
with on like an animated piece and she
 

3589
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:01,990
with on like an animated piece and she
reached out to like this friend who I

3590
01:10:01,990 --> 01:10:02,000
reached out to like this friend who I
 

3591
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,990
reached out to like this friend who I
collaborated with saying, "Hey, you

3592
01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:04,000
collaborated with saying, "Hey, you
 

3593
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,510
collaborated with saying, "Hey, you
know, you you shouldn't work with Emily

3594
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:05,520
know, you you shouldn't work with Emily
 

3595
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,270
know, you you shouldn't work with Emily
anymore. You should let me voice tail."

3596
01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:07,280
anymore. You should let me voice tail."
 

3597
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,189
anymore. You should let me voice tail."
So like there was an intention to do

3598
01:10:09,189 --> 01:10:09,199
So like there was an intention to do
 

3599
01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:13,189
So like there was an intention to do
what she was accusing me of doing. Um,

3600
01:10:13,189 --> 01:10:13,199
what she was accusing me of doing. Um,
 

3601
01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:15,790
what she was accusing me of doing. Um,
so it it's

3602
01:10:15,790 --> 01:10:15,800
so it it's
 

3603
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,470
so it it's
just it's a mess. I I I don't even know

3604
01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:18,480
just it's a mess. I I I don't even know
 

3605
01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:21,590
just it's a mess. I I I don't even know
how else to describe it apart from just

3606
01:10:21,590 --> 01:10:21,600
how else to describe it apart from just
 

3607
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,669
how else to describe it apart from just
a very very huge mess over getting a

3608
01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:25,679
a very very huge mess over getting a
 

3609
01:10:25,679 --> 01:10:27,590
a very very huge mess over getting a
Tales role for a series that wound up

3610
01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:27,600
Tales role for a series that wound up
 

3611
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,669
Tales role for a series that wound up
getting cancelled anyways.

3612
01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:29,679
getting cancelled anyways.
 

3613
01:10:29,679 --> 01:10:32,470
getting cancelled anyways.
All of this for nothing effectively. It

3614
01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:32,480
All of this for nothing effectively. It
 

3615
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:34,470
All of this for nothing effectively. It
didn't even happen. It didn't even come

3616
01:10:34,470 --> 01:10:34,480
didn't even happen. It didn't even come
 

3617
01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:38,149
didn't even happen. It didn't even come
out. So what was where did she get this

3618
01:10:38,149 --> 01:10:38,159
out. So what was where did she get this
 

3619
01:10:38,159 --> 01:10:40,470
out. So what was where did she get this
idea that you were sleeping with Spirit

3620
01:10:40,470 --> 01:10:40,480
idea that you were sleeping with Spirit
 

3621
01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:41,990
idea that you were sleeping with Spirit
of the Blue? Where the [\h__\h] does that

3622
01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:42,000
of the Blue? Where the [\h__\h] does that
 

3623
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,310
of the Blue? Where the [\h__\h] does that
come from?

3624
01:10:44,310 --> 01:10:44,320
come from?
 

3625
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,470
come from?
Well, she used to be good friends with

3626
01:10:46,470 --> 01:10:46,480
Well, she used to be good friends with
 

3627
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:49,350
Well, she used to be good friends with
Spirit and then at a point because

3628
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:49,360
Spirit and then at a point because
 

3629
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,990
Spirit and then at a point because
Spirit liked me and started spending

3630
01:10:51,990 --> 01:10:52,000
Spirit liked me and started spending
 

3631
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,310
Spirit liked me and started spending
more time with me, you know, she these

3632
01:10:54,310 --> 01:10:54,320
more time with me, you know, she these
 

3633
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:55,990
more time with me, you know, she these
were like conclusions that were made

3634
01:10:55,990 --> 01:10:56,000
were like conclusions that were made
 

3635
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,910
were like conclusions that were made
because of that.

3636
01:10:57,910 --> 01:10:57,920
because of that.
 

3637
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,510
because of that.
Did Did Spirit of the Blue ever have

3638
01:10:59,510 --> 01:10:59,520
Did Did Spirit of the Blue ever have
 

3639
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:00,950
Did Did Spirit of the Blue ever have
like any sort of romantic interest in

3640
01:11:00,950 --> 01:11:00,960
like any sort of romantic interest in
 

3641
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,229
like any sort of romantic interest in
you? Is that where she thinks this is

3642
01:11:02,229 --> 01:11:02,239
you? Is that where she thinks this is
 

3643
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:04,310
you? Is that where she thinks this is
coming from or

3644
01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:04,320
coming from or
 

3645
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,669
coming from or
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yes. Uh, spirit.

3646
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:07,679
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yes. Uh, spirit.
 

3647
01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:09,830
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yes. Uh, spirit.
Yeah, spirit. You know, he had feelings

3648
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:09,840
Yeah, spirit. You know, he had feelings
 

3649
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,189
Yeah, spirit. You know, he had feelings
for me, but I did not return them. I

3650
01:11:13,189 --> 01:11:13,199
for me, but I did not return them. I
 

3651
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:14,870
for me, but I did not return them. I
communicated to him like several times

3652
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:14,880
communicated to him like several times
 

3653
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,510
communicated to him like several times
that I was not in the right headsp space

3654
01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:17,520
that I was not in the right headsp space
 

3655
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,750
that I was not in the right headsp space
to, you know, have a relationship. I had

3656
01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:19,760
to, you know, have a relationship. I had
 

3657
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,189
to, you know, have a relationship. I had
my own stuff going on. Like at this

3658
01:11:21,189 --> 01:11:21,199
my own stuff going on. Like at this
 

3659
01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:23,430
my own stuff going on. Like at this
point, I'm still, you know, living in a

3660
01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:23,440
point, I'm still, you know, living in a
 

3661
01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:25,430
point, I'm still, you know, living in a
kind of a chaotic situation at this

3662
01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:25,440
kind of a chaotic situation at this
 

3663
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:27,350
kind of a chaotic situation at this
point, you know, from home. And I told

3664
01:11:27,350 --> 01:11:27,360
point, you know, from home. And I told
 

3665
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:28,790
point, you know, from home. And I told
him I didn't really know him very well

3666
01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:28,800
him I didn't really know him very well
 

3667
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,630
him I didn't really know him very well
and I just I wasn't really attracted to

3668
01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:30,640
and I just I wasn't really attracted to
 

3669
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:35,430
and I just I wasn't really attracted to
him. Um, but he he he wasn't terribly

3670
01:11:35,430 --> 01:11:35,440
him. Um, but he he he wasn't terribly
 

3671
01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:37,669
him. Um, but he he he wasn't terribly
willing to accept that, but eventually,

3672
01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:37,679
willing to accept that, but eventually,
 

3673
01:11:37,679 --> 01:11:38,950
willing to accept that, but eventually,
you know, I kind of had to cut him off

3674
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:38,960
you know, I kind of had to cut him off
 

3675
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,270
you know, I kind of had to cut him off
because of that, you know. But yes, I I

3676
01:11:41,270 --> 01:11:41,280
because of that, you know. But yes, I I
 

3677
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,470
because of that, you know. But yes, I I
had no interest in him. He had interest

3678
01:11:44,470 --> 01:11:44,480
had no interest in him. He had interest
 

3679
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:46,630
had no interest in him. He had interest
in me. And that's where a lot of this

3680
01:11:46,630 --> 01:11:46,640
in me. And that's where a lot of this
 

3681
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,990
in me. And that's where a lot of this
kind of came from. Okay. So, just cuz he

3682
01:11:49,990 --> 01:11:50,000
kind of came from. Okay. So, just cuz he
 

3683
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,510
kind of came from. Okay. So, just cuz he
had like a a little bit of a crush on

3684
01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:51,520
had like a a little bit of a crush on
 

3685
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,350
had like a a little bit of a crush on
you, she decided to like apparently make

3686
01:11:53,350 --> 01:11:53,360
you, she decided to like apparently make
 

3687
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,950
you, she decided to like apparently make
that in her entire crusade mission

3688
01:11:56,950 --> 01:11:56,960
that in her entire crusade mission
 

3689
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,750
that in her entire crusade mission
statement, I guess.

3690
01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:59,760
statement, I guess.
 

3691
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,350
statement, I guess.
Yeah. and and most of it I would argue

3692
01:12:01,350 --> 01:12:01,360
Yeah. and and most of it I would argue
 

3693
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,750
Yeah. and and most of it I would argue
is more towards losing the role I think

3694
01:12:03,750 --> 01:12:03,760
is more towards losing the role I think
 

3695
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,070
is more towards losing the role I think
of Misadventures. I think that that was

3696
01:12:06,070 --> 01:12:06,080
of Misadventures. I think that that was
 

3697
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,149
of Misadventures. I think that that was
just sort of this afterthought for her.

3698
01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:08,159
just sort of this afterthought for her.
 

3699
01:12:08,159 --> 01:12:09,750
just sort of this afterthought for her.
I think that she cared a lot more about

3700
01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:09,760
I think that she cared a lot more about
 

3701
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:11,189
I think that she cared a lot more about
the role than really her own

3702
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:11,199
the role than really her own
 

3703
01:12:11,199 --> 01:12:12,790
the role than really her own
relationship with Spirit, but that's

3704
01:12:12,790 --> 01:12:12,800
relationship with Spirit, but that's
 

3705
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,910
relationship with Spirit, but that's
just me theorizing, you know? I I it's

3706
01:12:15,910 --> 01:12:15,920
just me theorizing, you know? I I it's
 

3707
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,709
just me theorizing, you know? I I it's
just it's just weird, right? It's not

3708
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:18,719
just it's just weird, right? It's not
 

3709
01:12:18,719 --> 01:12:20,630
just it's just weird, right? It's not
like you're in conversations with them

3710
01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:20,640
like you're in conversations with them
 

3711
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:25,350
like you're in conversations with them
anyway. So, like, you know, No, no, no.

3712
01:12:25,350 --> 01:12:25,360
anyway. So, like, you know, No, no, no.
 

3713
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,910
anyway. So, like, you know, No, no, no.
It's crazy how spiteful she is within

3714
01:12:27,910 --> 01:12:27,920
It's crazy how spiteful she is within
 

3715
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,510
It's crazy how spiteful she is within
those actions alone.

3716
01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:31,520

 

3717
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,550

I I know it. I couldn't believe how bad

3718
01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:34,560
I I know it. I couldn't believe how bad
 

3719
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,430
I I know it. I couldn't believe how bad
it had gotten. Like my friend would come

3720
01:12:37,430 --> 01:12:37,440
it had gotten. Like my friend would come
 

3721
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:39,430
it had gotten. Like my friend would come
back to me like the one who we'd had

3722
01:12:39,430 --> 01:12:39,440
back to me like the one who we'd had
 

3723
01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:41,189
back to me like the one who we'd had
that fight and then like he came back

3724
01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:41,199
that fight and then like he came back
 

3725
01:12:41,199 --> 01:12:44,630
that fight and then like he came back
and apologized saying, "I am so sorry

3726
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:44,640
and apologized saying, "I am so sorry
 

3727
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,430
and apologized saying, "I am so sorry
about this." Like I did not realize how

3728
01:12:47,430 --> 01:12:47,440
about this." Like I did not realize how
 

3729
01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:50,470
about this." Like I did not realize how
horrible this like she was. You know, it

3730
01:12:50,470 --> 01:12:50,480
horrible this like she was. You know, it
 

3731
01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:53,030
horrible this like she was. You know, it
was not until he was in a call with her

3732
01:12:53,030 --> 01:12:53,040
was not until he was in a call with her
 

3733
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,270
was not until he was in a call with her
watching her photoshop bruises on me

3734
01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:55,280
watching her photoshop bruises on me
 

3735
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:59,590
watching her photoshop bruises on me
that he just he got sick to his stomach.

3736
01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:59,600
that he just he got sick to his stomach.
 

3737
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,669
that he just he got sick to his stomach.
you know, and that's that's sort of what

3738
01:13:01,669 --> 01:13:01,679
you know, and that's that's sort of what
 

3739
01:13:01,679 --> 01:13:03,870
you know, and that's that's sort of what
made him realize that he was

3740
01:13:03,870 --> 01:13:03,880
made him realize that he was
 

3741
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,430
made him realize that he was
absolutely in the wrong crowd, right? I

3742
01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:07,440
absolutely in the wrong crowd, right? I
 

3743
01:13:07,440 --> 01:13:09,430
absolutely in the wrong crowd, right? I
mean, I I don't know very many people

3744
01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:09,440
mean, I I don't know very many people
 

3745
01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:11,189
mean, I I don't know very many people
who would photoshop bruises on people

3746
01:13:11,189 --> 01:13:11,199
who would photoshop bruises on people
 

3747
01:13:11,199 --> 01:13:14,310
who would photoshop bruises on people
for fun, you know? That's just me. I

3748
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:14,320
for fun, you know? That's just me. I
 

3749
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,310
for fun, you know? That's just me. I
can't think of I can't think of many.

3750
01:13:16,310 --> 01:13:16,320
can't think of I can't think of many.
 

3751
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,229
can't think of I can't think of many.
No, like I just don't I don't understand

3752
01:13:18,229 --> 01:13:18,239
No, like I just don't I don't understand
 

3753
01:13:18,239 --> 01:13:21,430
No, like I just don't I don't understand
it. Yeah. So, of course, Blue-Eyed Fox

3754
01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:21,440
it. Yeah. So, of course, Blue-Eyed Fox
 

3755
01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:24,470
it. Yeah. So, of course, Blue-Eyed Fox
has uh kind of, as you know, Lizzy has

3756
01:13:24,470 --> 01:13:24,480
has uh kind of, as you know, Lizzy has
 

3757
01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:26,149
has uh kind of, as you know, Lizzy has
also done, kind of turned the tables and

3758
01:13:26,149 --> 01:13:26,159
also done, kind of turned the tables and
 

3759
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:28,950
also done, kind of turned the tables and
say, "Well, your your fan base is toxic

3760
01:13:28,950 --> 01:13:28,960
say, "Well, your your fan base is toxic
 

3761
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,830
say, "Well, your your fan base is toxic
and have been harassing them non-stop

3762
01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:31,840
and have been harassing them non-stop
 

3763
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,310
and have been harassing them non-stop
about this whole thing." Um, more

3764
01:13:34,310 --> 01:13:34,320
about this whole thing." Um, more
 

3765
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,630
about this whole thing." Um, more
specifically in um regards to somebody

3766
01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:36,640
specifically in um regards to somebody
 

3767
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,149
specifically in um regards to somebody
called Radioactive um that was

3768
01:13:39,149 --> 01:13:39,159
called Radioactive um that was
 

3769
01:13:39,159 --> 01:13:41,790
called Radioactive um that was
apparently ordered to attack you.

3770
01:13:41,790 --> 01:13:41,800
apparently ordered to attack you.
 

3771
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:45,189
apparently ordered to attack you.
Apparently, they allege that you were

3772
01:13:45,189 --> 01:13:45,199
Apparently, they allege that you were
 

3773
01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:46,870
Apparently, they allege that you were
dating this person radioactive and you

3774
01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:46,880
dating this person radioactive and you
 

3775
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,149
dating this person radioactive and you
asked on your behalf to attack uh

3776
01:13:50,149 --> 01:13:50,159
asked on your behalf to attack uh
 

3777
01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:53,110
asked on your behalf to attack uh
blue-eyed fox.

3778
01:13:53,110 --> 01:13:53,120
blue-eyed fox.
 

3779
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,070
blue-eyed fox.
What What's that about? Yeah.

3780
01:13:56,070 --> 01:13:56,080
What What's that about? Yeah.
 

3781
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,590
What What's that about? Yeah.
So, basically, oh man, I just It's I

3782
01:13:59,590 --> 01:13:59,600
So, basically, oh man, I just It's I
 

3783
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,950
So, basically, oh man, I just It's I
It's so I'm sorry. It's just It's just I

3784
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:02,960
It's so I'm sorry. It's just It's just I
 

3785
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,510
It's so I'm sorry. It's just It's just I
get it. It's It's ridiculous, right?

3786
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:05,520
get it. It's It's ridiculous, right?
 

3787
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,270
get it. It's It's ridiculous, right?
You're absolutely fine. Do not worry at

3788
01:14:07,270 --> 01:14:07,280
You're absolutely fine. Do not worry at
 

3789
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:08,950
You're absolutely fine. Do not worry at
all.

3790
01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:08,960
all.
 

3791
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,590
all.
Thank you. It's Radioactive was somebody

3792
01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:11,600
Thank you. It's Radioactive was somebody
 

3793
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:14,470
Thank you. It's Radioactive was somebody
who uh you know we were friends. He came

3794
01:14:14,470 --> 01:14:14,480
who uh you know we were friends. He came
 

3795
01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:16,310
who uh you know we were friends. He came
to me at one point and said he had

3796
01:14:16,310 --> 01:14:16,320
to me at one point and said he had
 

3797
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,790
to me at one point and said he had
feelings for me. Um and I was very

3798
01:14:18,790 --> 01:14:18,800
feelings for me. Um and I was very
 

3799
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,950
feelings for me. Um and I was very
upfront with him saying look I don't I

3800
01:14:20,950 --> 01:14:20,960
upfront with him saying look I don't I
 

3801
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,470
upfront with him saying look I don't I
don't know you very well. Like you're a

3802
01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:22,480
don't know you very well. Like you're a
 

3803
01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:25,910
don't know you very well. Like you're a
great friend and for me I just I don't

3804
01:14:25,910 --> 01:14:25,920
great friend and for me I just I don't
 

3805
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,990
great friend and for me I just I don't
want to like start anything serious like

3806
01:14:27,990 --> 01:14:28,000
want to like start anything serious like
 

3807
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,070
want to like start anything serious like
that with people who I don't know well.

3808
01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:30,080
that with people who I don't know well.
 

3809
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,149
that with people who I don't know well.
You know, maybe some sometime down the

3810
01:14:32,149 --> 01:14:32,159
You know, maybe some sometime down the
 

3811
01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:34,470
You know, maybe some sometime down the
line if something were to change, if we

3812
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:34,480
line if something were to change, if we
 

3813
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:37,030
line if something were to change, if we
we did meet in person, maybe we got to

3814
01:14:37,030 --> 01:14:37,040
we did meet in person, maybe we got to
 

3815
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:38,630
we did meet in person, maybe we got to
know each other, then maybe that's

3816
01:14:38,630 --> 01:14:38,640
know each other, then maybe that's
 

3817
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,189
know each other, then maybe that's
something that could happen. But no

3818
01:14:41,189 --> 01:14:41,199
something that could happen. But no
 

3819
01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:44,149
something that could happen. But no
promises, we're friends. And um you

3820
01:14:44,149 --> 01:14:44,159
promises, we're friends. And um you
 

3821
01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:46,870
promises, we're friends. And um you
know, after a little bit of time of him

3822
01:14:46,870 --> 01:14:46,880
know, after a little bit of time of him
 

3823
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:48,790
know, after a little bit of time of him
kind of hoping to have a relationship

3824
01:14:48,790 --> 01:14:48,800
kind of hoping to have a relationship
 

3825
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,830
kind of hoping to have a relationship
and it not really paying off, Mhm. he

3826
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:51,840
and it not really paying off, Mhm. he
 

3827
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,870
and it not really paying off, Mhm. he
went to blue-eyed, you know, as his I

3828
01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:54,880
went to blue-eyed, you know, as his I
 

3829
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,669
went to blue-eyed, you know, as his I
guess response to that. and uh said this

3830
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:57,679
guess response to that. and uh said this
 

3831
01:14:57,679 --> 01:15:00,630
guess response to that. and uh said this
said that I I sked him onto her, but no,

3832
01:15:00,630 --> 01:15:00,640
said that I I sked him onto her, but no,
 

3833
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,630
said that I I sked him onto her, but no,
like why I I don't gain anything by

3834
01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:04,640
like why I I don't gain anything by
 

3835
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,709
like why I I don't gain anything by
having people go attack anybody. And

3836
01:15:06,709 --> 01:15:06,719
having people go attack anybody. And
 

3837
01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:09,030
having people go attack anybody. And
there's no tweets of these attacks

3838
01:15:09,030 --> 01:15:09,040
there's no tweets of these attacks
 

3839
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,350
there's no tweets of these attacks
either. Like that none of this. It's

3840
01:15:11,350 --> 01:15:11,360
either. Like that none of this. It's
 

3841
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,350
either. Like that none of this. It's
just none of it's true. It's just coming

3842
01:15:13,350 --> 01:15:13,360
just none of it's true. It's just coming
 

3843
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,590
just none of it's true. It's just coming
from like some stuff that's like, oh,

3844
01:15:15,590 --> 01:15:15,600
from like some stuff that's like, oh,
 

3845
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,270
from like some stuff that's like, oh,
well, there's part of something here,

3846
01:15:17,270 --> 01:15:17,280
well, there's part of something here,
 

3847
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,110
well, there's part of something here,
but then there's also bits of it that

3848
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:19,120
but then there's also bits of it that
 

3849
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:20,950
but then there's also bits of it that
there's it's there's no truth to it at

3850
01:15:20,950 --> 01:15:20,960
there's it's there's no truth to it at
 

3851
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,149
there's it's there's no truth to it at
all, you know? No, I get that. And you

3852
01:15:24,149 --> 01:15:24,159
all, you know? No, I get that. And you
 

3853
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:25,590
all, you know? No, I get that. And you
know how these gossip sets can be

3854
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:25,600
know how these gossip sets can be
 

3855
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,430
know how these gossip sets can be
sometimes, you know, when they decide

3856
01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:27,440
sometimes, you know, when they decide
 

3857
01:15:27,440 --> 01:15:30,550
sometimes, you know, when they decide
like arbitrarily like this is the person

3858
01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:30,560
like arbitrarily like this is the person
 

3859
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,149
like arbitrarily like this is the person
who is objectively in the wrong even

3860
01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:32,159
who is objectively in the wrong even
 

3861
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:33,590
who is objectively in the wrong even
though they're just like, well, is there

3862
01:15:33,590 --> 01:15:33,600
though they're just like, well, is there
 

3863
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:34,709
though they're just like, well, is there
any proof that they're in the wrong?

3864
01:15:34,709 --> 01:15:34,719
any proof that they're in the wrong?
 

3865
01:15:34,719 --> 01:15:36,070
any proof that they're in the wrong?
Like are we basing that on actual

3866
01:15:36,070 --> 01:15:36,080
Like are we basing that on actual
 

3867
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,149
Like are we basing that on actual
screenshots you're taking or are we just

3868
01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:38,159
screenshots you're taking or are we just
 

3869
01:15:38,159 --> 01:15:41,270
screenshots you're taking or are we just
jumping on a hate bandwagon for a bit?

3870
01:15:41,270 --> 01:15:41,280
jumping on a hate bandwagon for a bit?
 

3871
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,189
jumping on a hate bandwagon for a bit?
Are we just taking a screenshot of some

3872
01:15:43,189 --> 01:15:43,199
Are we just taking a screenshot of some
 

3873
01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:46,229
Are we just taking a screenshot of some
guy saying it happened and there

3874
01:15:46,229 --> 01:15:46,239
guy saying it happened and there
 

3875
01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:47,910
guy saying it happened and there
sometimes that's all it takes, right?

3876
01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:47,920
sometimes that's all it takes, right?
 

3877
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,430
sometimes that's all it takes, right?
Godamn.

3878
01:15:49,430 --> 01:15:49,440
Godamn.
 

3879
01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:52,310
Godamn.
Yeah. Yep. So, all right, moving on to

3880
01:15:52,310 --> 01:15:52,320
Yeah. Yep. So, all right, moving on to
 

3881
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,550
Yeah. Yep. So, all right, moving on to
the next name on our list here. Uh,

3882
01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:54,560
the next name on our list here. Uh,
 

3883
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,630
the next name on our list here. Uh,
let's talk about Super Speed Sonic. Uh,

3884
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:56,640
let's talk about Super Speed Sonic. Uh,
 

3885
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,510
let's talk about Super Speed Sonic. Uh,
Ricardo, as his real name is, has posted

3886
01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:59,520
Ricardo, as his real name is, has posted
 

3887
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,510
Ricardo, as his real name is, has posted
this thing on their Twitter about an

3888
01:16:01,510 --> 01:16:01,520
this thing on their Twitter about an
 

3889
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:02,950
this thing on their Twitter about an
incident that took place at Sonic

3890
01:16:02,950 --> 01:16:02,960
incident that took place at Sonic
 

3891
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,310
incident that took place at Sonic
Revolution. I'm assuming that's some

3892
01:16:04,310 --> 01:16:04,320
Revolution. I'm assuming that's some
 

3893
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,990
Revolution. I'm assuming that's some
sort of gaming convention or like a

3894
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:06,000
sort of gaming convention or like a
 

3895
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,550
sort of gaming convention or like a
showcase for Sonic stuff, saying that

3896
01:16:08,550 --> 01:16:08,560
showcase for Sonic stuff, saying that
 

3897
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,950
showcase for Sonic stuff, saying that
you got them intentionally kicked out of

3898
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:10,960
you got them intentionally kicked out of
 

3899
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:15,910
you got them intentionally kicked out of
this um event. Um, what's that about?

3900
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:15,920
this um event. Um, what's that about?
 

3901
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:21,430
this um event. Um, what's that about?
What's your relationship with him?

3902
01:16:21,430 --> 01:16:21,440

 

3903
01:16:21,440 --> 01:16:23,430

I mean, there's no like we were never

3904
01:16:23,430 --> 01:16:23,440
I mean, there's no like we were never
 

3905
01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:25,350
I mean, there's no like we were never
friends, like we never really spoke to

3906
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:25,360
friends, like we never really spoke to
 

3907
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:29,110
friends, like we never really spoke to
each other. This was more so uh Ricardo

3908
01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:29,120
each other. This was more so uh Ricardo
 

3909
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,990
each other. This was more so uh Ricardo
would make a lot of tweets online that a

3910
01:16:31,990 --> 01:16:32,000
would make a lot of tweets online that a
 

3911
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:33,590
would make a lot of tweets online that a
lot of people within the Sonic community

3912
01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:33,600
lot of people within the Sonic community
 

3913
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,709
lot of people within the Sonic community
space were very aware of um that were

3914
01:16:36,709 --> 01:16:36,719
space were very aware of um that were
 

3915
01:16:36,719 --> 01:16:38,950
space were very aware of um that were
borderline kind of misogynistic, very

3916
01:16:38,950 --> 01:16:38,960
borderline kind of misogynistic, very
 

3917
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,750
borderline kind of misogynistic, very
questionable things. Um, one of these

3918
01:16:41,750 --> 01:16:41,760
questionable things. Um, one of these
 

3919
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,070
questionable things. Um, one of these
comments were about, you know, how women

3920
01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:44,080
comments were about, you know, how women
 

3921
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,470
comments were about, you know, how women
above the age 25, they they need like

3922
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:46,480
above the age 25, they they need like
 

3923
01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:47,910
above the age 25, they they need like
what are you doing trying to like get in

3924
01:16:47,910 --> 01:16:47,920
what are you doing trying to like get in
 

3925
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,350
what are you doing trying to like get in
the date, you know, don't don't come

3926
01:16:49,350 --> 01:16:49,360
the date, you know, don't don't come
 

3927
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:50,950
the date, you know, don't don't come
date me. You should have kids and a

3928
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:50,960
date me. You should have kids and a
 

3929
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,510
date me. You should have kids and a
whole family by now, you know. And uh, a

3930
01:16:53,510 --> 01:16:53,520
whole family by now, you know. And uh, a
 

3931
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,750
whole family by now, you know. And uh, a
lot of women did not take well to uh

3932
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:55,760
lot of women did not take well to uh
 

3933
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,630
lot of women did not take well to uh
some of these tweets, including me. Um,

3934
01:16:58,630 --> 01:16:58,640
some of these tweets, including me. Um,
 

3935
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,709
some of these tweets, including me. Um,
and on top of that too, he had his own

3936
01:17:00,709 --> 01:17:00,719
and on top of that too, he had his own
 

3937
01:17:00,719 --> 01:17:03,430
and on top of that too, he had his own
run-ins with uh, content creator uh, Sam

3938
01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:03,440
run-ins with uh, content creator uh, Sam
 

3939
01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:06,310
run-ins with uh, content creator uh, Sam
Procrastinates. And uh because of this,

3940
01:17:06,310 --> 01:17:06,320
Procrastinates. And uh because of this,
 

3941
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,550
Procrastinates. And uh because of this,
you know, he's just somebody who has

3942
01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:08,560
you know, he's just somebody who has
 

3943
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,310
you know, he's just somebody who has
just made me feel kind of uncomfortable

3944
01:17:10,310 --> 01:17:10,320
just made me feel kind of uncomfortable
 

3945
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,270
just made me feel kind of uncomfortable
about them. No hatred, no nothing like

3946
01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:13,280
about them. No hatred, no nothing like
 

3947
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,750
about them. No hatred, no nothing like
there's nothing strong. It's just h

3948
01:17:15,750 --> 01:17:15,760
there's nothing strong. It's just h
 

3949
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,270
there's nothing strong. It's just h
Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that

3950
01:17:17,270 --> 01:17:17,280
Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that
 

3951
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,590
Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that
guy. He just kind of just wouldn't go

3952
01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:19,600
guy. He just kind of just wouldn't go
 

3953
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,350
guy. He just kind of just wouldn't go
out of your way to get a beer with that

3954
01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:21,360
out of your way to get a beer with that
 

3955
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:22,870
out of your way to get a beer with that
person.

3956
01:17:22,870 --> 01:17:22,880
person.
 

3957
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,590
person.
Yes, absolutely. And there was a point

3958
01:17:25,590 --> 01:17:25,600
Yes, absolutely. And there was a point
 

3959
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,669
Yes, absolutely. And there was a point
at uh it was Sonic Revolution. You're

3960
01:17:27,669 --> 01:17:27,679
at uh it was Sonic Revolution. You're
 

3961
01:17:27,679 --> 01:17:30,470
at uh it was Sonic Revolution. You're
right. It's a Sonic uh convention in

3962
01:17:30,470 --> 01:17:30,480
right. It's a Sonic uh convention in
 

3963
01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:34,310
right. It's a Sonic uh convention in
California. and he was in line to see

3964
01:17:34,310 --> 01:17:34,320
California. and he was in line to see
 

3965
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,750
California. and he was in line to see
the actors. However, I share this like

3966
01:17:37,750 --> 01:17:37,760
the actors. However, I share this like
 

3967
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,229
the actors. However, I share this like
long table with all of them. So, in

3968
01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:40,239
long table with all of them. So, in
 

3969
01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:41,990
long table with all of them. So, in
order to like be in line with these

3970
01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:42,000
order to like be in line with these
 

3971
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,550
order to like be in line with these
guys, like he has to pass right in front

3972
01:17:44,550 --> 01:17:44,560
guys, like he has to pass right in front
 

3973
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,950
guys, like he has to pass right in front
of me uh to potentially interact with

3974
01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:46,960
of me uh to potentially interact with
 

3975
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,950
of me uh to potentially interact with
me. And not to say he was going to

3976
01:17:48,950 --> 01:17:48,960
me. And not to say he was going to
 

3977
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,510
me. And not to say he was going to
purposely come up and talk to me, but a

3978
01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:51,520
purposely come up and talk to me, but a
 

3979
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,430
purposely come up and talk to me, but a
couple friends of mine who were aware of

3980
01:17:53,430 --> 01:17:53,440
couple friends of mine who were aware of
 

3981
01:17:53,440 --> 01:17:55,830
couple friends of mine who were aware of
that discomfort, they messaged me and

3982
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:55,840
that discomfort, they messaged me and
 

3983
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,350
that discomfort, they messaged me and
said, "Hey, like just a, you know, a

3984
01:17:57,350 --> 01:17:57,360
said, "Hey, like just a, you know, a
 

3985
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,189
said, "Hey, like just a, you know, a
heads up, he's in the line. He's getting

3986
01:17:59,189 --> 01:17:59,199
heads up, he's in the line. He's getting
 

3987
01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:01,270
heads up, he's in the line. He's getting
kind of close to you." So, I told my

3988
01:18:01,270 --> 01:18:01,280
kind of close to you." So, I told my
 

3989
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:02,709
kind of close to you." So, I told my
partner Cam, "Hey, I'm going to like

3990
01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:02,719
partner Cam, "Hey, I'm going to like
 

3991
01:18:02,719 --> 01:18:04,470
partner Cam, "Hey, I'm going to like
just step away for a few minutes because

3992
01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:04,480
just step away for a few minutes because
 

3993
01:18:04,480 --> 01:18:07,149
just step away for a few minutes because
I didn't really want to have any kind of

3994
01:18:07,149 --> 01:18:07,159
I didn't really want to have any kind of
 

3995
01:18:07,159 --> 01:18:09,990
I didn't really want to have any kind of
interaction." Um, so I left. I spent

3996
01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:10,000
interaction." Um, so I left. I spent
 

3997
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,590
interaction." Um, so I left. I spent
time with a few of my friends. We kind

3998
01:18:11,590 --> 01:18:11,600
time with a few of my friends. We kind
 

3999
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,110
time with a few of my friends. We kind
of, you know, just kind of talking about

4000
01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:13,120
of, you know, just kind of talking about
 

4001
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,510
of, you know, just kind of talking about
it and they were mentioning that they

4002
01:18:15,510 --> 01:18:15,520
it and they were mentioning that they
 

4003
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,430
it and they were mentioning that they
were kind of shocked he was allowed in

4004
01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:17,440
were kind of shocked he was allowed in
 

4005
01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:20,550
were kind of shocked he was allowed in
because he apparently was blacklisted

4006
01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:20,560
because he apparently was blacklisted
 

4007
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,870
because he apparently was blacklisted
from the other Sonic event, Sonic and

4008
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:22,880
from the other Sonic event, Sonic and
 

4009
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:24,630
from the other Sonic event, Sonic and
Sega fan. I know I've mentioned that

4010
01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:24,640
Sega fan. I know I've mentioned that
 

4011
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,790
Sega fan. I know I've mentioned that
name before. So that event he I guess

4012
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:26,800
name before. So that event he I guess
 

4013
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,189
name before. So that event he I guess
had been blacklisted because of his own

4014
01:18:29,189 --> 01:18:29,199
had been blacklisted because of his own
 

4015
01:18:29,199 --> 01:18:31,350
had been blacklisted because of his own
situation with the other content creator

4016
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:31,360
situation with the other content creator
 

4017
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,669
situation with the other content creator
um Sam Procrastinates.

4018
01:18:33,669 --> 01:18:33,679
um Sam Procrastinates.
 

4019
01:18:33,679 --> 01:18:36,229
um Sam Procrastinates.
So they brought that up along with the

4020
01:18:36,229 --> 01:18:36,239
So they brought that up along with the
 

4021
01:18:36,239 --> 01:18:38,550
So they brought that up along with the
fact that there was this entrance that

4022
01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:38,560
fact that there was this entrance that
 

4023
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,790
fact that there was this entrance that
people were using at the convention that

4024
01:18:40,790 --> 01:18:40,800
people were using at the convention that
 

4025
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,590
people were using at the convention that
people weren't supposed to be using. Uh

4026
01:18:43,590 --> 01:18:43,600
people weren't supposed to be using. Uh
 

4027
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:44,870
people weren't supposed to be using. Uh
and so they were just kind of talking

4028
01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:44,880
and so they were just kind of talking
 

4029
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:45,910
and so they were just kind of talking
about like yeah I mean we're kind of

4030
01:18:45,910 --> 01:18:45,920
about like yeah I mean we're kind of
 

4031
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:47,830
about like yeah I mean we're kind of
shocked he's even kind of allowed in

4032
01:18:47,830 --> 01:18:47,840
shocked he's even kind of allowed in
 

4033
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,910
shocked he's even kind of allowed in
here because of what happened and he has

4034
01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:49,920
here because of what happened and he has
 

4035
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:51,510
here because of what happened and he has
been using this door. And I I was just

4036
01:18:51,510 --> 01:18:51,520
been using this door. And I I was just
 

4037
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,189
been using this door. And I I was just
like, "Yeah, I'm not sure." You know,

4038
01:18:53,189 --> 01:18:53,199
like, "Yeah, I'm not sure." You know,
 

4039
01:18:53,199 --> 01:18:55,030
like, "Yeah, I'm not sure." You know,
maybe something's to do with that, but I

4040
01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:55,040
maybe something's to do with that, but I
 

4041
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,110
maybe something's to do with that, but I
don't know. Anyways, he's passed my

4042
01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:57,120
don't know. Anyways, he's passed my
 

4043
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:58,470
don't know. Anyways, he's passed my
table. I'm going to go sit back down

4044
01:18:58,470 --> 01:18:58,480
table. I'm going to go sit back down
 

4045
01:18:58,480 --> 01:18:59,910
table. I'm going to go sit back down
cuz, you know, I had people waiting for

4046
01:18:59,910 --> 01:18:59,920
cuz, you know, I had people waiting for
 

4047
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:03,910
cuz, you know, I had people waiting for
me. And I sat back at my table. I

4048
01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:03,920
me. And I sat back at my table. I
 

4049
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:05,669
me. And I sat back at my table. I
continued to interact with fans. And

4050
01:19:05,669 --> 01:19:05,679
continued to interact with fans. And
 

4051
01:19:05,679 --> 01:19:07,910
continued to interact with fans. And
then I think it was probably like 20

4052
01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:07,920
then I think it was probably like 20
 

4053
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,870
then I think it was probably like 20
minutes later. Uh the head of Sonic Revo

4054
01:19:10,870 --> 01:19:10,880
minutes later. Uh the head of Sonic Revo
 

4055
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,030
minutes later. Uh the head of Sonic Revo
came up to me and Cam and said, "Hey,

4056
01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:13,040
came up to me and Cam and said, "Hey,
 

4057
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,790
came up to me and Cam and said, "Hey,
don't worry. We took care of it." And

4058
01:19:14,790 --> 01:19:14,800
don't worry. We took care of it." And
 

4059
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,470
don't worry. We took care of it." And
we're like, "What are you talking

4060
01:19:16,470 --> 01:19:16,480
we're like, "What are you talking
 

4061
01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:18,709
we're like, "What are you talking
about?" And he's, you know, they were

4062
01:19:18,709 --> 01:19:18,719
about?" And he's, you know, they were
 

4063
01:19:18,719 --> 01:19:20,390
about?" And he's, you know, they were
like, "We we kicked out Ricardo, you

4064
01:19:20,390 --> 01:19:20,400
like, "We we kicked out Ricardo, you
 

4065
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,149
like, "We we kicked out Ricardo, you
know, like you wanted." And we're like,

4066
01:19:22,149 --> 01:19:22,159
know, like you wanted." And we're like,
 

4067
01:19:22,159 --> 01:19:24,630
know, like you wanted." And we're like,
"Whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no, what do you

4068
01:19:24,630 --> 01:19:24,640
"Whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no, what do you
 

4069
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,310
"Whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no, what do you
mean? You kicked him out? We we don't

4070
01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:26,320
mean? You kicked him out? We we don't
 

4071
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:27,590
mean? You kicked him out? We we don't
want that. No, no, no. You don't have to

4072
01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:27,600
want that. No, no, no. You don't have to
 

4073
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,189
want that. No, no, no. You don't have to
kick him out. Oh my god." And they said,

4074
01:19:29,189 --> 01:19:29,199
kick him out. Oh my god." And they said,
 

4075
01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:30,950
kick him out. Oh my god." And they said,
"Yeah, no. That's what you you said,

4076
01:19:30,950 --> 01:19:30,960
"Yeah, no. That's what you you said,
 

4077
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:32,310
"Yeah, no. That's what you you said,
right?" And we're like, "No, we none of

4078
01:19:32,310 --> 01:19:32,320
right?" And we're like, "No, we none of
 

4079
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,149
right?" And we're like, "No, we none of
us said that, you know, and we we didn't

4080
01:19:34,149 --> 01:19:34,159
us said that, you know, and we we didn't
 

4081
01:19:34,159 --> 01:19:35,590
us said that, you know, and we we didn't
even know what was going on at that

4082
01:19:35,590 --> 01:19:35,600
even know what was going on at that
 

4083
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:39,830
even know what was going on at that
point until they left to kind of

4084
01:19:39,830 --> 01:19:39,840
point until they left to kind of
 

4085
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,430
point until they left to kind of
reconvene and talk about what was going

4086
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:41,440
reconvene and talk about what was going
 

4087
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:44,630
reconvene and talk about what was going
on, you know, and they came back and

4088
01:19:44,630 --> 01:19:44,640
on, you know, and they came back and
 

4089
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,550
on, you know, and they came back and
said that it was one of these friends

4090
01:19:46,550 --> 01:19:46,560
said that it was one of these friends
 

4091
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,110
said that it was one of these friends
who I was talking to. They mentioned,

4092
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:49,120
who I was talking to. They mentioned,
 

4093
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,189
who I was talking to. They mentioned,
you know, how he has been using the

4094
01:19:51,189 --> 01:19:51,199
you know, how he has been using the
 

4095
01:19:51,199 --> 01:19:52,870
you know, how he has been using the
wrong entrance and, you know, they

4096
01:19:52,870 --> 01:19:52,880
wrong entrance and, you know, they
 

4097
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:54,390
wrong entrance and, you know, they
brought up like the fan jam thing and

4098
01:19:54,390 --> 01:19:54,400
brought up like the fan jam thing and
 

4099
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,390
brought up like the fan jam thing and
how I was kind of uncomfortable and I

4100
01:19:56,390 --> 01:19:56,400
how I was kind of uncomfortable and I
 

4101
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,950
how I was kind of uncomfortable and I
said, "Yeah, no, like look, yeah, like

4102
01:19:58,950 --> 01:19:58,960
said, "Yeah, no, like look, yeah, like
 

4103
01:19:58,960 --> 01:19:59,910
said, "Yeah, no, like look, yeah, like
this, he makes me a little

4104
01:19:59,910 --> 01:19:59,920
this, he makes me a little
 

4105
01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:01,110
this, he makes me a little
uncomfortable. He doesn't have to be

4106
01:20:01,110 --> 01:20:01,120
uncomfortable. He doesn't have to be
 

4107
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:02,470
uncomfortable. He doesn't have to be
kicked out though. Like it's not like

4108
01:20:02,470 --> 01:20:02,480
kicked out though. Like it's not like
 

4109
01:20:02,480 --> 01:20:03,990
kicked out though. Like it's not like
that, you know. No, let him let him back

4110
01:20:03,990 --> 01:20:04,000
that, you know. No, let him let him back
 

4111
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,350
that, you know. No, let him let him back
in. And me and Cam were literally

4112
01:20:05,350 --> 01:20:05,360
in. And me and Cam were literally
 

4113
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,669
in. And me and Cam were literally
saying, "No, bring him back in here."

4114
01:20:07,669 --> 01:20:07,679
saying, "No, bring him back in here."
 

4115
01:20:07,679 --> 01:20:09,990
saying, "No, bring him back in here."
But at that point, Ricardo had already

4116
01:20:09,990 --> 01:20:10,000
But at that point, Ricardo had already
 

4117
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,510
But at that point, Ricardo had already
reacted very strongly, which

4118
01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:11,520
reacted very strongly, which
 

4119
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,070
reacted very strongly, which
understandably, um, making the head of

4120
01:20:14,070 --> 01:20:14,080
understandably, um, making the head of
 

4121
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,310
understandably, um, making the head of
Sonic Rebel cry. So, they decided to

4122
01:20:16,310 --> 01:20:16,320
Sonic Rebel cry. So, they decided to
 

4123
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,270
Sonic Rebel cry. So, they decided to
just blacklist him altogether. And so,

4124
01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:19,280
just blacklist him altogether. And so,
 

4125
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,070
just blacklist him altogether. And so,
that's where that went. And then in the

4126
01:20:22,070 --> 01:20:22,080
that's where that went. And then in the
 

4127
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:23,990
that's where that went. And then in the
midst of me being at this convention

4128
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:24,000
midst of me being at this convention
 

4129
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,189
midst of me being at this convention
just trying to get through the day, that

4130
01:20:27,189 --> 01:20:27,199
just trying to get through the day, that
 

4131
01:20:27,199 --> 01:20:31,110
just trying to get through the day, that
that post was posted. And uh we had to

4132
01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:31,120
that post was posted. And uh we had to
 

4133
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:32,950
that post was posted. And uh we had to
speak to them again, like, "Hey, this is

4134
01:20:32,950 --> 01:20:32,960
speak to them again, like, "Hey, this is
 

4135
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,350
speak to them again, like, "Hey, this is
getting really out of hand. Now he's on

4136
01:20:35,350 --> 01:20:35,360
getting really out of hand. Now he's on
 

4137
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,110
getting really out of hand. Now he's on
Twitter telling people that I I got him

4138
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:37,120
Twitter telling people that I I got him
 

4139
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,350
Twitter telling people that I I got him
kicked out, you know, and so they said,

4140
01:20:39,350 --> 01:20:39,360
kicked out, you know, and so they said,
 

4141
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:40,870
kicked out, you know, and so they said,
"Yeah, we're going to look into it."

4142
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:40,880
"Yeah, we're going to look into it."
 

4143
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:42,790
"Yeah, we're going to look into it."
Eventually after like the end of the

4144
01:20:42,790 --> 01:20:42,800
Eventually after like the end of the
 

4145
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,590
Eventually after like the end of the
event, uh I reached out to him. Uh my

4146
01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:45,600
event, uh I reached out to him. Uh my
 

4147
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,750
event, uh I reached out to him. Uh my
partner Cam reached out to him. Sonic

4148
01:20:47,750 --> 01:20:47,760
partner Cam reached out to him. Sonic
 

4149
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,870
partner Cam reached out to him. Sonic
Revo also reached out to him. We tried

4150
01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:50,880
Revo also reached out to him. We tried
 

4151
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:52,790
Revo also reached out to him. We tried
to communicate as much as we could. I

4152
01:20:52,790 --> 01:20:52,800
to communicate as much as we could. I
 

4153
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,030
to communicate as much as we could. I
had even responded myself explaining my

4154
01:20:55,030 --> 01:20:55,040
had even responded myself explaining my
 

4155
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,470
had even responded myself explaining my
side of that. Um, but this was something

4156
01:20:58,470 --> 01:20:58,480
side of that. Um, but this was something
 

4157
01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:00,550
side of that. Um, but this was something
that he had never really corrected. But

4158
01:21:00,550 --> 01:21:00,560
that he had never really corrected. But
 

4159
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,550
that he had never really corrected. But
Sonic Revo did reach out to him. I did

4160
01:21:02,550 --> 01:21:02,560
Sonic Revo did reach out to him. I did
 

4161
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,390
Sonic Revo did reach out to him. I did
post that online too, just to keep

4162
01:21:04,390 --> 01:21:04,400
post that online too, just to keep
 

4163
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:05,910
post that online too, just to keep
everybody in the loop like, "Hey, Sonic

4164
01:21:05,910 --> 01:21:05,920
everybody in the loop like, "Hey, Sonic
 

4165
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,149
everybody in the loop like, "Hey, Sonic
Revo did explain what actually happened

4166
01:21:08,149 --> 01:21:08,159
Revo did explain what actually happened
 

4167
01:21:08,159 --> 01:21:11,510
Revo did explain what actually happened
here, you know, but um, Ricardo never

4168
01:21:11,510 --> 01:21:11,520
here, you know, but um, Ricardo never
 

4169
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,350
here, you know, but um, Ricardo never
then corrected that information." But

4170
01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:13,360
then corrected that information." But
 

4171
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,350
then corrected that information." But
that is what my side of the story is.

4172
01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:15,360
that is what my side of the story is.
 

4173
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,870
that is what my side of the story is.
Um, I I don't care if some guy who even

4174
01:21:18,870 --> 01:21:18,880
Um, I I don't care if some guy who even
 

4175
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,030
Um, I I don't care if some guy who even
if I even if I just hate them. I don't

4176
01:21:21,030 --> 01:21:21,040
if I even if I just hate them. I don't
 

4177
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,270
if I even if I just hate them. I don't
care if they're there as long as it is

4178
01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:23,280
care if they're there as long as it is
 

4179
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,270
care if they're there as long as it is
somebody is nobody who has any

4180
01:21:25,270 --> 01:21:25,280
somebody is nobody who has any
 

4181
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,990
somebody is nobody who has any
intentions on causing some kind of

4182
01:21:27,990 --> 01:21:28,000
intentions on causing some kind of
 

4183
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,910
intentions on causing some kind of
problem, you know, like putting me in

4184
01:21:29,910 --> 01:21:29,920
problem, you know, like putting me in
 

4185
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,070
problem, you know, like putting me in
danger. As long as it's like that, I

4186
01:21:32,070 --> 01:21:32,080
danger. As long as it's like that, I
 

4187
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,470
danger. As long as it's like that, I
don't care who goes to a convention, you

4188
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:34,480
don't care who goes to a convention, you
 

4189
01:21:34,480 --> 01:21:36,550
don't care who goes to a convention, you
know. So, this

4190
01:21:36,550 --> 01:21:36,560
know. So, this
 

4191
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,709
know. So, this
No, no, not at all. Like, absolutely.

4192
01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:38,719
No, no, not at all. Like, absolutely.
 

4193
01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:40,790
No, no, not at all. Like, absolutely.
We're all here to celebrate Sonic, you

4194
01:21:40,790 --> 01:21:40,800
We're all here to celebrate Sonic, you
 

4195
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,750
We're all here to celebrate Sonic, you
know. It was just this weird thing. Even

4196
01:21:43,750 --> 01:21:43,760
know. It was just this weird thing. Even
 

4197
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:45,830
know. It was just this weird thing. Even
that night, the friend of mine who had,

4198
01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:45,840
that night, the friend of mine who had,
 

4199
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,070
that night, the friend of mine who had,
you know, reached out like apologizing

4200
01:21:48,070 --> 01:21:48,080
you know, reached out like apologizing
 

4201
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:49,990
you know, reached out like apologizing
like, "Hey, I'm so sorry. I did not mean

4202
01:21:49,990 --> 01:21:50,000
like, "Hey, I'm so sorry. I did not mean
 

4203
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,550
like, "Hey, I'm so sorry. I did not mean
to like have you thrown under the bus in

4204
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:52,560
to like have you thrown under the bus in
 

4205
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:53,990
to like have you thrown under the bus in
all of this. I just wanted to make sure

4206
01:21:53,990 --> 01:21:54,000
all of this. I just wanted to make sure
 

4207
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,229
all of this. I just wanted to make sure
he was supposed to be there because of

4208
01:21:56,229 --> 01:21:56,239
he was supposed to be there because of
 

4209
01:21:56,239 --> 01:21:57,910
he was supposed to be there because of
the fact that he was blacklisted at this

4210
01:21:57,910 --> 01:21:57,920
the fact that he was blacklisted at this
 

4211
01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,350
the fact that he was blacklisted at this
other event and because he was using a

4212
01:21:59,350 --> 01:21:59,360
other event and because he was using a
 

4213
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,310
other event and because he was using a
different entrance, right? Um, so yeah.

4214
01:22:02,310 --> 01:22:02,320
different entrance, right? Um, so yeah.
 

4215
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,149
different entrance, right? Um, so yeah.
Yeah, that's that's what happened. That

4216
01:22:04,149 --> 01:22:04,159
Yeah, that's that's what happened. That
 

4217
01:22:04,159 --> 01:22:05,430
Yeah, that's that's what happened. That
kind of puts you on the spot, too,

4218
01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:05,440
kind of puts you on the spot, too,
 

4219
01:22:05,440 --> 01:22:07,030
kind of puts you on the spot, too,
though. I mean, I get that like

4220
01:22:07,030 --> 01:22:07,040
though. I mean, I get that like
 

4221
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,750
though. I mean, I get that like
ultimately, you know, a convention, you

4222
01:22:09,750 --> 01:22:09,760
ultimately, you know, a convention, you
 

4223
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,430
ultimately, you know, a convention, you
know, has a say in whether or not you're

4224
01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:11,440
know, has a say in whether or not you're
 

4225
01:22:11,440 --> 01:22:12,790
know, has a say in whether or not you're
allowed to be there or not, but it it

4226
01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:12,800
allowed to be there or not, but it it
 

4227
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:14,149
allowed to be there or not, but it it
kind of puts you on the spot when they

4228
01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:14,159
kind of puts you on the spot when they
 

4229
01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:16,310
kind of puts you on the spot when they
say like, "Oh, cuz you voiced being

4230
01:22:16,310 --> 01:22:16,320
say like, "Oh, cuz you voiced being
 

4231
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,790
say like, "Oh, cuz you voiced being
uncomfortable. We're going to take that

4232
01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:18,800
uncomfortable. We're going to take that
 

4233
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,030
uncomfortable. We're going to take that
as our our lead to like kick somebody

4234
01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:21,040
as our our lead to like kick somebody
 

4235
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:22,950
as our our lead to like kick somebody
out." And that kind of just puts it on

4236
01:22:22,950 --> 01:22:22,960
out." And that kind of just puts it on
 

4237
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,709
out." And that kind of just puts it on
you inadvertently cuz they're like, "Oh,

4238
01:22:24,709 --> 01:22:24,719
you inadvertently cuz they're like, "Oh,
 

4239
01:22:24,719 --> 01:22:25,910
you inadvertently cuz they're like, "Oh,
we kicked him out cuz you said

4240
01:22:25,910 --> 01:22:25,920
we kicked him out cuz you said
 

4241
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,350
we kicked him out cuz you said
something." And it's like, "Well, yeah,

4242
01:22:27,350 --> 01:22:27,360
something." And it's like, "Well, yeah,
 

4243
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,830
something." And it's like, "Well, yeah,
I voiced an opinion that I had of them,

4244
01:22:29,830 --> 01:22:29,840
I voiced an opinion that I had of them,
 

4245
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,990
I voiced an opinion that I had of them,
but that didn't mean that didn't equate

4246
01:22:31,990 --> 01:22:32,000
but that didn't mean that didn't equate
 

4247
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,310
but that didn't mean that didn't equate
to please kick this person out." If you

4248
01:22:34,310 --> 01:22:34,320
to please kick this person out." If you
 

4249
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,629
to please kick this person out." If you
wanted Ricardo kicked out, I think you

4250
01:22:36,629 --> 01:22:36,639
wanted Ricardo kicked out, I think you
 

4251
01:22:36,639 --> 01:22:38,229
wanted Ricardo kicked out, I think you
would have just said something. I think

4252
01:22:38,229 --> 01:22:38,239
would have just said something. I think
 

4253
01:22:38,239 --> 01:22:41,669
would have just said something. I think
you yourself would have said so.

4254
01:22:41,669 --> 01:22:41,679
you yourself would have said so.
 

4255
01:22:41,679 --> 01:22:43,910
you yourself would have said so.
Absolutely. Yes. This and it was also a

4256
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:43,920
Absolutely. Yes. This and it was also a
 

4257
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:45,750
Absolutely. Yes. This and it was also a
game of telephone. It wasn't even me

4258
01:22:45,750 --> 01:22:45,760
game of telephone. It wasn't even me
 

4259
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,270
game of telephone. It wasn't even me
going to Revo and saying, "Hey, I'm

4260
01:22:47,270 --> 01:22:47,280
going to Revo and saying, "Hey, I'm
 

4261
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,510
going to Revo and saying, "Hey, I'm
uncomfortable." This was I'm talking to

4262
01:22:49,510 --> 01:22:49,520
uncomfortable." This was I'm talking to
 

4263
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,110
uncomfortable." This was I'm talking to
like my group of friends and then my

4264
01:22:51,110 --> 01:22:51,120
like my group of friends and then my
 

4265
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:52,709
like my group of friends and then my
friend mentions I'm uncomfortable and

4266
01:22:52,709 --> 01:22:52,719
friend mentions I'm uncomfortable and
 

4267
01:22:52,719 --> 01:22:54,310
friend mentions I'm uncomfortable and
then and then they make a decision based

4268
01:22:54,310 --> 01:22:54,320
then and then they make a decision based
 

4269
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,709
then and then they make a decision based
off of that. So, you're right. It does.

4270
01:22:56,709 --> 01:22:56,719
off of that. So, you're right. It does.
 

4271
01:22:56,719 --> 01:22:59,910
off of that. So, you're right. It does.
Without even

4272
01:22:59,910 --> 01:22:59,920
Without even
 

4273
01:22:59,920 --> 01:23:02,229
Without even
Yeah. And I we even asked like you know

4274
01:23:02,229 --> 01:23:02,239
Yeah. And I we even asked like you know
 

4275
01:23:02,239 --> 01:23:03,510
Yeah. And I we even asked like you know
you like you should have talked to us

4276
01:23:03,510 --> 01:23:03,520
you like you should have talked to us
 

4277
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,430
you like you should have talked to us
and they're like oh well we we thought

4278
01:23:05,430 --> 01:23:05,440
and they're like oh well we we thought
 

4279
01:23:05,440 --> 01:23:07,510
and they're like oh well we we thought
that this is just how you felt and uh

4280
01:23:07,510 --> 01:23:07,520
that this is just how you felt and uh
 

4281
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,149
that this is just how you felt and uh
yeah it was just it was kind of

4282
01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:10,159
yeah it was just it was kind of
 

4283
01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:13,110
yeah it was just it was kind of
mishandled really poorly you know it was

4284
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:13,120
mishandled really poorly you know it was
 

4285
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,990
mishandled really poorly you know it was
I mean not a good situation. Yeah. The

4286
01:23:15,990 --> 01:23:16,000
I mean not a good situation. Yeah. The
 

4287
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:17,110
I mean not a good situation. Yeah. The
least they could have done is at least

4288
01:23:17,110 --> 01:23:17,120
least they could have done is at least
 

4289
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:18,870
least they could have done is at least
asked to reconfirm that that's something

4290
01:23:18,870 --> 01:23:18,880
asked to reconfirm that that's something
 

4291
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:20,470
asked to reconfirm that that's something
you felt. You know what I mean? Instead

4292
01:23:20,470 --> 01:23:20,480
you felt. You know what I mean? Instead
 

4293
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:21,830
you felt. You know what I mean? Instead
of just like basing it off of what your

4294
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:21,840
of just like basing it off of what your
 

4295
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,390
of just like basing it off of what your
friends said or whatever.

4296
01:23:24,390 --> 01:23:24,400
friends said or whatever.
 

4297
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,709
friends said or whatever.
Yeah. Like I do appreciate they they the

4298
01:23:26,709 --> 01:23:26,719
Yeah. Like I do appreciate they they the
 

4299
01:23:26,719 --> 01:23:28,390
Yeah. Like I do appreciate they they the
people who run Sonic Revo. They are

4300
01:23:28,390 --> 01:23:28,400
people who run Sonic Revo. They are
 

4301
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,310
people who run Sonic Revo. They are
really great people, but I do wish Yes.

4302
01:23:30,310 --> 01:23:30,320
really great people, but I do wish Yes.
 

4303
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,629
really great people, but I do wish Yes.
in that situation, I really wish that

4304
01:23:32,629 --> 01:23:32,639
in that situation, I really wish that
 

4305
01:23:32,639 --> 01:23:34,990
in that situation, I really wish that
they had just checked with me.

4306
01:23:34,990 --> 01:23:35,000
they had just checked with me.
 

4307
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:39,030
they had just checked with me.
Mhm. So, let's move on past Ricardo and

4308
01:23:39,030 --> 01:23:39,040
Mhm. So, let's move on past Ricardo and
 

4309
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:42,149
Mhm. So, let's move on past Ricardo and
talk about Dylan Thomas now. Okay. I

4310
01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:42,159
talk about Dylan Thomas now. Okay. I
 

4311
01:23:42,159 --> 01:23:44,510
talk about Dylan Thomas now. Okay. I
don't know if I know

4312
01:23:44,510 --> 01:23:44,520
don't know if I know
 

4313
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,149
don't know if I know
that I know that like Sorry, that's a he

4314
01:23:48,149 --> 01:23:48,159
that I know that like Sorry, that's a he
 

4315
01:23:48,159 --> 01:23:50,629
that I know that like Sorry, that's a he
has like apologized to you in regards to

4316
01:23:50,629 --> 01:23:50,639
has like apologized to you in regards to
 

4317
01:23:50,639 --> 01:23:53,350
has like apologized to you in regards to
some uh things. Um I'll read the tweet.

4318
01:23:53,350 --> 01:23:53,360
some uh things. Um I'll read the tweet.
 

4319
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,189
some uh things. Um I'll read the tweet.
Um he says that he is deeply sorry for

4320
01:23:55,189 --> 01:23:55,199
Um he says that he is deeply sorry for
 

4321
01:23:55,199 --> 01:23:56,709
Um he says that he is deeply sorry for
his recent video. It turns out that the

4322
01:23:56,709 --> 01:23:56,719
his recent video. It turns out that the
 

4323
01:23:56,719 --> 01:23:58,550
his recent video. It turns out that the
victim associated with the case was an

4324
01:23:58,550 --> 01:23:58,560
victim associated with the case was an
 

4325
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,950
victim associated with the case was an
impostor that is out to ruin Emy's life.

4326
01:24:00,950 --> 01:24:00,960
impostor that is out to ruin Emy's life.
 

4327
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,550
impostor that is out to ruin Emy's life.
I've made a massive mistake not looking

4328
01:24:02,550 --> 01:24:02,560
I've made a massive mistake not looking
 

4329
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:03,990
I've made a massive mistake not looking
into that further and I have taken the

4330
01:24:03,990 --> 01:24:04,000
into that further and I have taken the
 

4331
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,629
into that further and I have taken the
video down and will redo and remove the

4332
01:24:06,629 --> 01:24:06,639
video down and will redo and remove the
 

4333
01:24:06,639 --> 01:24:09,510
video down and will redo and remove the
victim's account. Um, so at the at the

4334
01:24:09,510 --> 01:24:09,520
victim's account. Um, so at the at the
 

4335
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,189
victim's account. Um, so at the at the
very least in the past, he's been at

4336
01:24:11,189 --> 01:24:11,199
very least in the past, he's been at
 

4337
01:24:11,199 --> 01:24:13,510
very least in the past, he's been at
least friendly to you. At least he's

4338
01:24:13,510 --> 01:24:13,520
least friendly to you. At least he's
 

4339
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,030
least friendly to you. At least he's
been able he's corrected himself about

4340
01:24:15,030 --> 01:24:15,040
been able he's corrected himself about
 

4341
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,550
been able he's corrected himself about
misinformation about you. So that's

4342
01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:16,560
misinformation about you. So that's
 

4343
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,790
misinformation about you. So that's
something. Um, but apparently he and you

4344
01:24:20,790 --> 01:24:20,800
something. Um, but apparently he and you
 

4345
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,750
something. Um, but apparently he and you
are not cool for certain reasons. And I

4346
01:24:23,750 --> 01:24:23,760
are not cool for certain reasons. And I
 

4347
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,229
are not cool for certain reasons. And I
just wanted to ask about that. Like

4348
01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:26,239
just wanted to ask about that. Like
 

4349
01:24:26,239 --> 01:24:28,229
just wanted to ask about that. Like
first of all, like in terms of this

4350
01:24:28,229 --> 01:24:28,239
first of all, like in terms of this
 

4351
01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:31,669
first of all, like in terms of this
victim impostor thing, what what is that

4352
01:24:31,669 --> 01:24:31,679
victim impostor thing, what what is that
 

4353
01:24:31,679 --> 01:24:35,510
victim impostor thing, what what is that
in reference to? Let's start there.

4354
01:24:35,510 --> 01:24:35,520
in reference to? Let's start there.
 

4355
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,910
in reference to? Let's start there.
It's It's in reference to Lizzy again.

4356
01:24:37,910 --> 01:24:37,920
It's It's in reference to Lizzy again.
 

4357
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,470
It's It's in reference to Lizzy again.
Oh god. Um, Lizzy

4358
01:24:40,470 --> 01:24:40,480
Oh god. Um, Lizzy
 

4359
01:24:40,480 --> 01:24:43,629
Oh god. Um, Lizzy
Yep. We go back to Lizzy. Lizzy made

4360
01:24:43,629 --> 01:24:43,639
Yep. We go back to Lizzy. Lizzy made
 

4361
01:24:43,639 --> 01:24:48,629
Yep. We go back to Lizzy. Lizzy made
a anonymous Reddit account uh posing as

4362
01:24:48,629 --> 01:24:48,639
a anonymous Reddit account uh posing as
 

4363
01:24:48,639 --> 01:24:51,430
a anonymous Reddit account uh posing as
a guy saying that I you know I I took

4364
01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:51,440
a guy saying that I you know I I took
 

4365
01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:53,669
a guy saying that I you know I I took
advantage of him and and it's it's

4366
01:24:53,669 --> 01:24:53,679
advantage of him and and it's it's
 

4367
01:24:53,679 --> 01:24:56,390
advantage of him and and it's it's
titled a bully named Emily Jones if I

4368
01:24:56,390 --> 01:24:56,400
titled a bully named Emily Jones if I
 

4369
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,350
titled a bully named Emily Jones if I
remember correctly. Um and it's just all

4370
01:24:59,350 --> 01:24:59,360
remember correctly. Um and it's just all
 

4371
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,990
remember correctly. Um and it's just all
kinds of misinformation. Nothing no kind

4372
01:25:01,990 --> 01:25:02,000
kinds of misinformation. Nothing no kind
 

4373
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,110
kinds of misinformation. Nothing no kind
of substance behind it at all. It's just

4374
01:25:05,110 --> 01:25:05,120
of substance behind it at all. It's just
 

4375
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,629
of substance behind it at all. It's just
this hit piece on me. And uh Dylan

4376
01:25:08,629 --> 01:25:08,639
this hit piece on me. And uh Dylan
 

4377
01:25:08,639 --> 01:25:11,030
this hit piece on me. And uh Dylan
included this in a video about me in

4378
01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:11,040
included this in a video about me in
 

4379
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,950
included this in a video about me in
this Reddit. It actually talks about an

4380
01:25:12,950 --> 01:25:12,960
this Reddit. It actually talks about an
 

4381
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,750
this Reddit. It actually talks about an
experience that I had when I was 16 when

4382
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:15,760
experience that I had when I was 16 when
 

4383
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,709
experience that I had when I was 16 when
I was on the Dr. Phil show. And because

4384
01:25:18,709 --> 01:25:18,719
I was on the Dr. Phil show. And because
 

4385
01:25:18,719 --> 01:25:21,750
I was on the Dr. Phil show. And because
of that, Dylan then found out about me

4386
01:25:21,750 --> 01:25:21,760
of that, Dylan then found out about me
 

4387
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,629
of that, Dylan then found out about me
being on there. But the initial video

4388
01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:24,639
being on there. But the initial video
 

4389
01:25:24,639 --> 01:25:27,990
being on there. But the initial video
was to showcase this Reddit post. It

4390
01:25:27,990 --> 01:25:28,000
was to showcase this Reddit post. It
 

4391
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,149
was to showcase this Reddit post. It
wasn't until he uploaded it and

4392
01:25:30,149 --> 01:25:30,159
wasn't until he uploaded it and
 

4393
01:25:30,159 --> 01:25:32,070
wasn't until he uploaded it and
everybody in the comment section pointed

4394
01:25:32,070 --> 01:25:32,080
everybody in the comment section pointed
 

4395
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,310
everybody in the comment section pointed
out, uh, dude, this guy, like the the

4396
01:25:34,310 --> 01:25:34,320
out, uh, dude, this guy, like the the
 

4397
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,629
out, uh, dude, this guy, like the the
Reddit, this this is Lizzy. And the

4398
01:25:36,629 --> 01:25:36,639
Reddit, this this is Lizzy. And the
 

4399
01:25:36,639 --> 01:25:38,550
Reddit, this this is Lizzy. And the
reason you're able to put that together

4400
01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:38,560
reason you're able to put that together
 

4401
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,149
reason you're able to put that together
is because when you click on the

4402
01:25:40,149 --> 01:25:40,159
is because when you click on the
 

4403
01:25:40,159 --> 01:25:42,550
is because when you click on the
account, the only other things that

4404
01:25:42,550 --> 01:25:42,560
account, the only other things that
 

4405
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:46,229
account, the only other things that
she's posting are things that only Lizzy

4406
01:25:46,229 --> 01:25:46,239
she's posting are things that only Lizzy
 

4407
01:25:46,239 --> 01:25:48,790
she's posting are things that only Lizzy
would post, including art of her own

4408
01:25:48,790 --> 01:25:48,800
would post, including art of her own
 

4409
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,189
would post, including art of her own
character with Sonic. It's literally her

4410
01:25:51,189 --> 01:25:51,199
character with Sonic. It's literally her
 

4411
01:25:51,199 --> 01:25:53,990
character with Sonic. It's literally her
OC character that she's made. And she's

4412
01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:54,000
OC character that she's made. And she's
 

4413
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,830
OC character that she's made. And she's
talking about how much she likes Kappa

4414
01:25:55,830 --> 01:25:55,840
talking about how much she likes Kappa
 

4415
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:57,510
talking about how much she likes Kappa
Mikey, which is something that everybody

4416
01:25:57,510 --> 01:25:57,520
Mikey, which is something that everybody
 

4417
01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,990
Mikey, which is something that everybody
knows that she's a fan of, and stuff

4418
01:25:59,990 --> 01:26:00,000
knows that she's a fan of, and stuff
 

4419
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:01,990
knows that she's a fan of, and stuff
like that. So everybody was able to very

4420
01:26:01,990 --> 01:26:02,000
like that. So everybody was able to very
 

4421
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,070
like that. So everybody was able to very
quickly put together this was Lizzie

4422
01:26:04,070 --> 01:26:04,080
quickly put together this was Lizzie
 

4423
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,110
quickly put together this was Lizzie
just making another post trying to

4424
01:26:07,110 --> 01:26:07,120
just making another post trying to
 

4425
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,590
just making another post trying to
spread misinformation and so luckily yes

4426
01:26:09,590 --> 01:26:09,600
spread misinformation and so luckily yes
 

4427
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,470
spread misinformation and so luckily yes
Dylan uh he received that information

4428
01:26:12,470 --> 01:26:12,480
Dylan uh he received that information
 

4429
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:15,790
Dylan uh he received that information
well and he apologized for it. So he

4430
01:26:15,790 --> 01:26:15,800
well and he apologized for it. So he
 

4431
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,110
well and he apologized for it. So he
then deleted that video but then cut so

4432
01:26:19,110 --> 01:26:19,120
then deleted that video but then cut so
 

4433
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:20,550
then deleted that video but then cut so
just just cut off all of the

4434
01:26:20,550 --> 01:26:20,560
just just cut off all of the
 

4435
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,870
just just cut off all of the
misinformation from the Reddit and then

4436
01:26:22,870 --> 01:26:22,880
misinformation from the Reddit and then
 

4437
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,629
misinformation from the Reddit and then
proceeded to make a full video just

4438
01:26:24,629 --> 01:26:24,639
proceeded to make a full video just
 

4439
01:26:24,639 --> 01:26:26,790
proceeded to make a full video just
about his new discovery which was just

4440
01:26:26,790 --> 01:26:26,800
about his new discovery which was just
 

4441
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,270
about his new discovery which was just
me being on Dr. Phil. Right. Was that

4442
01:26:29,270 --> 01:26:29,280
me being on Dr. Phil. Right. Was that
 

4443
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,350
me being on Dr. Phil. Right. Was that
account uh I I was able to find it back

4444
01:26:31,350 --> 01:26:31,360
account uh I I was able to find it back
 

4445
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,030
account uh I I was able to find it back
in. Was it the account called For the

4446
01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:33,040
in. Was it the account called For the
 

4447
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,590
in. Was it the account called For the
Love of Mike with the number four? Yep.

4448
01:26:35,590 --> 01:26:35,600
Love of Mike with the number four? Yep.
 

4449
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:39,189
Love of Mike with the number four? Yep.
Yep. Yes, that's the one. Yeah. Oh boy.

4450
01:26:39,189 --> 01:26:39,199
Yep. Yes, that's the one. Yeah. Oh boy.
 

4451
01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:42,790
Yep. Yes, that's the one. Yeah. Oh boy.
Lizzy is back in the picture. So yeah,

4452
01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:42,800
Lizzy is back in the picture. So yeah,
 

4453
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:47,590
Lizzy is back in the picture. So yeah,
that that is a reoccurring name. Yeah.

4454
01:26:47,590 --> 01:26:47,600
that that is a reoccurring name. Yeah.
 

4455
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,110
that that is a reoccurring name. Yeah.
So I don't know how much you want to

4456
01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:49,120
So I don't know how much you want to
 

4457
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,110
So I don't know how much you want to
talk about your experience with Dr. Phil

4458
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:51,120
talk about your experience with Dr. Phil
 

4459
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:52,790
talk about your experience with Dr. Phil
cuz Dylan Thomas is kind of the main

4460
01:26:52,790 --> 01:26:52,800
cuz Dylan Thomas is kind of the main
 

4461
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,229
cuz Dylan Thomas is kind of the main
reason why everyone knows that this is

4462
01:26:54,229 --> 01:26:54,239
reason why everyone knows that this is
 

4463
01:26:54,239 --> 01:26:56,550
reason why everyone knows that this is
something that was a part of your life.

4464
01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:56,560
something that was a part of your life.
 

4465
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,229
something that was a part of your life.
Um, you don't have to go into details

4466
01:26:58,229 --> 01:26:58,239
Um, you don't have to go into details
 

4467
01:26:58,239 --> 01:27:00,070
Um, you don't have to go into details
about it because I know that I know the

4468
01:27:00,070 --> 01:27:00,080
about it because I know that I know the
 

4469
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:01,669
about it because I know that I know the
the reputation of the Dr. Phil show is

4470
01:27:01,669 --> 01:27:01,679
the reputation of the Dr. Phil show is
 

4471
01:27:01,679 --> 01:27:03,030
the reputation of the Dr. Phil show is
very traumatic for a lot of people that

4472
01:27:03,030 --> 01:27:03,040
very traumatic for a lot of people that
 

4473
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,590
very traumatic for a lot of people that
go on there. Um, you don't have to go

4474
01:27:05,590 --> 01:27:05,600
go on there. Um, you don't have to go
 

4475
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,950
go on there. Um, you don't have to go
into details on that, but like what was

4476
01:27:08,950 --> 01:27:08,960
into details on that, but like what was
 

4477
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:10,709
into details on that, but like what was
that experience having people like ask

4478
01:27:10,709 --> 01:27:10,719
that experience having people like ask
 

4479
01:27:10,719 --> 01:27:14,950
that experience having people like ask
you about just being on the show?

4480
01:27:14,950 --> 01:27:14,960
you about just being on the show?
 

4481
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:18,070
you about just being on the show?
Um, so I mean I guess are you referring

4482
01:27:18,070 --> 01:27:18,080
Um, so I mean I guess are you referring
 

4483
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,550
Um, so I mean I guess are you referring
to when Dylan made it public? Yeah, like

4484
01:27:20,550 --> 01:27:20,560
to when Dylan made it public? Yeah, like
 

4485
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,790
to when Dylan made it public? Yeah, like
when Yeah, like when he made it public,

4486
01:27:22,790 --> 01:27:22,800
when Yeah, like when he made it public,
 

4487
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,110
when Yeah, like when he made it public,
like when were people like asking you

4488
01:27:25,110 --> 01:27:25,120
like when were people like asking you
 

4489
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:26,470
like when were people like asking you
about it and just like kind of like

4490
01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:26,480
about it and just like kind of like
 

4491
01:27:26,480 --> 01:27:27,990
about it and just like kind of like
being super invasive about your

4492
01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:28,000
being super invasive about your
 

4493
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,950
being super invasive about your
experience on it or like

4494
01:27:30,950 --> 01:27:30,960
experience on it or like
 

4495
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:32,470
experience on it or like
were they making fun of you for being on

4496
01:27:32,470 --> 01:27:32,480
were they making fun of you for being on
 

4497
01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:35,110
were they making fun of you for being on
the show, you know?

4498
01:27:35,110 --> 01:27:35,120
the show, you know?
 

4499
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:36,629
the show, you know?
Yeah. A lot of people were kind of

4500
01:27:36,629 --> 01:27:36,639
Yeah. A lot of people were kind of
 

4501
01:27:36,639 --> 01:27:39,350
Yeah. A lot of people were kind of
teasing me. And so, basically, he put

4502
01:27:39,350 --> 01:27:39,360
teasing me. And so, basically, he put
 

4503
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,189
teasing me. And so, basically, he put
that video up. I became aware of

4504
01:27:41,189 --> 01:27:41,199
that video up. I became aware of
 

4505
01:27:41,199 --> 01:27:43,189
that video up. I became aware of
obviously the Dr. fill aspect being

4506
01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:43,199
obviously the Dr. fill aspect being
 

4507
01:27:43,199 --> 01:27:45,830
obviously the Dr. fill aspect being
outed, but because he took down the

4508
01:27:45,830 --> 01:27:45,840
outed, but because he took down the
 

4509
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,550
outed, but because he took down the
first one uh with the Reddit part

4510
01:27:48,550 --> 01:27:48,560
first one uh with the Reddit part
 

4511
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,270
first one uh with the Reddit part
chopped off, I think it took him like a

4512
01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:51,280
chopped off, I think it took him like a
 

4513
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,149
chopped off, I think it took him like a
day or so to like re-upload it. And then

4514
01:27:54,149 --> 01:27:54,159
day or so to like re-upload it. And then
 

4515
01:27:54,159 --> 01:27:57,669
day or so to like re-upload it. And then
in that time frame, I decided, okay, you

4516
01:27:57,669 --> 01:27:57,679
in that time frame, I decided, okay, you
 

4517
01:27:57,679 --> 01:27:59,350
in that time frame, I decided, okay, you
know, I this is something that happened

4518
01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:59,360
know, I this is something that happened
 

4519
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,189
know, I this is something that happened
to me when I was a kid after I graduated

4520
01:28:01,189 --> 01:28:01,199
to me when I was a kid after I graduated
 

4521
01:28:01,199 --> 01:28:03,270
to me when I was a kid after I graduated
high school. I wanted to just kind of

4522
01:28:03,270 --> 01:28:03,280
high school. I wanted to just kind of
 

4523
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,350
high school. I wanted to just kind of
move on, not think about it anymore.

4524
01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:05,360
move on, not think about it anymore.
 

4525
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,270
move on, not think about it anymore.
But, you know, it's the internet. You're

4526
01:28:07,270 --> 01:28:07,280
But, you know, it's the internet. You're
 

4527
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:08,870
But, you know, it's the internet. You're
going to have people figure things out

4528
01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:08,880
going to have people figure things out
 

4529
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,590
going to have people figure things out
like that. And uh so I decided if this

4530
01:28:11,590 --> 01:28:11,600
like that. And uh so I decided if this
 

4531
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,990
like that. And uh so I decided if this
is gonna come out, I might as well talk

4532
01:28:13,990 --> 01:28:14,000
is gonna come out, I might as well talk
 

4533
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,149
is gonna come out, I might as well talk
about my experience on it. So I I did

4534
01:28:16,149 --> 01:28:16,159
about my experience on it. So I I did
 

4535
01:28:16,159 --> 01:28:18,709
about my experience on it. So I I did
make a post because of Dylan making that

4536
01:28:18,709 --> 01:28:18,719
make a post because of Dylan making that
 

4537
01:28:18,719 --> 01:28:21,750
make a post because of Dylan making that
video uh explaining what happened so I

4538
01:28:21,750 --> 01:28:21,760
video uh explaining what happened so I
 

4539
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:23,430
video uh explaining what happened so I
could explain just my side of it and

4540
01:28:23,430 --> 01:28:23,440
could explain just my side of it and
 

4541
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:26,149
could explain just my side of it and
people aren't just seeing Dylan's video

4542
01:28:26,149 --> 01:28:26,159
people aren't just seeing Dylan's video
 

4543
01:28:26,159 --> 01:28:27,910
people aren't just seeing Dylan's video
and you know not really knowing all the

4544
01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:27,920
and you know not really knowing all the
 

4545
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,590
and you know not really knowing all the
context for it. But yeah, a lot of

4546
01:28:29,590 --> 01:28:29,600
context for it. But yeah, a lot of
 

4547
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,669
context for it. But yeah, a lot of
people, you know, were teasing me and

4548
01:28:31,669 --> 01:28:31,679
people, you know, were teasing me and
 

4549
01:28:31,679 --> 01:28:33,189
people, you know, were teasing me and
saying all kinds of things, people

4550
01:28:33,189 --> 01:28:33,199
saying all kinds of things, people
 

4551
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:35,669
saying all kinds of things, people
asking me questions um just about how it

4552
01:28:35,669 --> 01:28:35,679
asking me questions um just about how it
 

4553
01:28:35,679 --> 01:28:38,470
asking me questions um just about how it
happened and how I feel about it. And uh

4554
01:28:38,470 --> 01:28:38,480
happened and how I feel about it. And uh
 

4555
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:40,390
happened and how I feel about it. And uh
yeah, I mean, it it was not a great

4556
01:28:40,390 --> 01:28:40,400
yeah, I mean, it it was not a great
 

4557
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,790
yeah, I mean, it it was not a great
experience, but at the same time,

4558
01:28:42,790 --> 01:28:42,800
experience, but at the same time,
 

4559
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,750
experience, but at the same time,
ultimately, I'm glad that I don't have

4560
01:28:44,750 --> 01:28:44,760
ultimately, I'm glad that I don't have
 

4561
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,669
ultimately, I'm glad that I don't have
to keep trying to not pretend it didn't

4562
01:28:47,669 --> 01:28:47,679
to keep trying to not pretend it didn't
 

4563
01:28:47,679 --> 01:28:49,189
to keep trying to not pretend it didn't
happen. Like, I'm glad I don't have to

4564
01:28:49,189 --> 01:28:49,199
happen. Like, I'm glad I don't have to
 

4565
01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:51,910
happen. Like, I'm glad I don't have to
like it's not a it's not a secret, you

4566
01:28:51,910 --> 01:28:51,920
like it's not a it's not a secret, you
 

4567
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:53,750
like it's not a it's not a secret, you
know? Like I I didn't want it to be

4568
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:53,760
know? Like I I didn't want it to be
 

4569
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,709
know? Like I I didn't want it to be
something that everybody knew because I

4570
01:28:55,709 --> 01:28:55,719
something that everybody knew because I
 

4571
01:28:55,719 --> 01:28:57,910
something that everybody knew because I
know there's going to be judgment no

4572
01:28:57,910 --> 01:28:57,920
know there's going to be judgment no
 

4573
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,870
know there's going to be judgment no
matter what. Even though I was a child

4574
01:29:00,870 --> 01:29:00,880
matter what. Even though I was a child
 

4575
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,830
matter what. Even though I was a child
and I was definitely, you know, a victim

4576
01:29:03,830 --> 01:29:03,840
and I was definitely, you know, a victim
 

4577
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,070
and I was definitely, you know, a victim
of that show. You know, not everyone's

4578
01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:06,080
of that show. You know, not everyone's
 

4579
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,550
of that show. You know, not everyone's
going to see it that way. But it it's

4580
01:29:08,550 --> 01:29:08,560
going to see it that way. But it it's
 

4581
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:10,950
going to see it that way. But it it's
out. It's just, you know, that's part of

4582
01:29:10,950 --> 01:29:10,960
out. It's just, you know, that's part of
 

4583
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,030
out. It's just, you know, that's part of
my life and I'm I'm glad at least that

4584
01:29:13,030 --> 01:29:13,040
my life and I'm I'm glad at least that
 

4585
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:14,709
my life and I'm I'm glad at least that
is not something I have to kind of run

4586
01:29:14,709 --> 01:29:14,719
is not something I have to kind of run
 

4587
01:29:14,719 --> 01:29:17,750
is not something I have to kind of run
away from anymore. Um, however, with

4588
01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:17,760
away from anymore. Um, however, with
 

4589
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,709
away from anymore. Um, however, with
this video that Dylan made, uh, he also

4590
01:29:20,709 --> 01:29:20,719
this video that Dylan made, uh, he also
 

4591
01:29:20,719 --> 01:29:24,070
this video that Dylan made, uh, he also
included photos of my kid in this video

4592
01:29:24,070 --> 01:29:24,080
included photos of my kid in this video
 

4593
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,550
included photos of my kid in this video
without my permission. And so, this

4594
01:29:26,550 --> 01:29:26,560
without my permission. And so, this
 

4595
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,270
without my permission. And so, this
would then cause me to send in a privacy

4596
01:29:29,270 --> 01:29:29,280
would then cause me to send in a privacy
 

4597
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,910
would then cause me to send in a privacy
complaint to get the video removed. Uh,

4598
01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:31,920
complaint to get the video removed. Uh,
 

4599
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:33,750
complaint to get the video removed. Uh,
just because I don't I don't want people

4600
01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:33,760
just because I don't I don't want people
 

4601
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,270
just because I don't I don't want people
who I, you know, these are just

4602
01:29:35,270 --> 01:29:35,280
who I, you know, these are just
 

4603
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,070
who I, you know, these are just
strangers uploading videos and and

4604
01:29:38,070 --> 01:29:38,080
strangers uploading videos and and
 

4605
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,790
strangers uploading videos and and
showcasing images, videos, and stuff of

4606
01:29:40,790 --> 01:29:40,800
showcasing images, videos, and stuff of
 

4607
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,110
showcasing images, videos, and stuff of
my child, you know. So, that's that's

4608
01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:43,120
my child, you know. So, that's that's
 

4609
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,070
my child, you know. So, that's that's
where that kind of led, right? Was your

4610
01:29:46,070 --> 01:29:46,080
where that kind of led, right? Was your
 

4611
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:47,910
where that kind of led, right? Was your
child's face like not censored like

4612
01:29:47,910 --> 01:29:47,920
child's face like not censored like
 

4613
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:49,590
child's face like not censored like
inherently on the show that they just

4614
01:29:49,590 --> 01:29:49,600
inherently on the show that they just
 

4615
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:53,030
inherently on the show that they just
kind of show that for everybody to see?

4616
01:29:53,030 --> 01:29:53,040
kind of show that for everybody to see?
 

4617
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:54,950
kind of show that for everybody to see?
Well, my child wasn't on the show. So,

4618
01:29:54,950 --> 01:29:54,960
Well, my child wasn't on the show. So,
 

4619
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,350
Well, my child wasn't on the show. So,
this was when I I was a kid and I was

4620
01:29:57,350 --> 01:29:57,360
this was when I I was a kid and I was
 

4621
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:01,669
this was when I I was a kid and I was
pregnant and but then Dylan would then

4622
01:30:01,669 --> 01:30:01,679
pregnant and but then Dylan would then
 

4623
01:30:01,679 --> 01:30:04,709
pregnant and but then Dylan would then
dig and like look around for things and

4624
01:30:04,709 --> 01:30:04,719
dig and like look around for things and
 

4625
01:30:04,719 --> 01:30:08,070
dig and like look around for things and
then find pictures and videos of my kid

4626
01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:08,080
then find pictures and videos of my kid
 

4627
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:09,990
then find pictures and videos of my kid
and then would just kind of show like

4628
01:30:09,990 --> 01:30:10,000
and then would just kind of show like
 

4629
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:11,830
and then would just kind of show like
literally pictures of like me and my

4630
01:30:11,830 --> 01:30:11,840
literally pictures of like me and my
 

4631
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:13,350
literally pictures of like me and my
family going to Disney and stuff like

4632
01:30:13,350 --> 01:30:13,360
family going to Disney and stuff like
 

4633
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,590
family going to Disney and stuff like
that. and it's just talking about it and

4634
01:30:15,590 --> 01:30:15,600
that. and it's just talking about it and
 

4635
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:17,350
that. and it's just talking about it and
showing all of this and it was just it's

4636
01:30:17,350 --> 01:30:17,360
showing all of this and it was just it's
 

4637
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:19,990
showing all of this and it was just it's
not something that a mom really wants to

4638
01:30:19,990 --> 01:30:20,000
not something that a mom really wants to
 

4639
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,790
not something that a mom really wants to
see. You know, most parents wouldn't

4640
01:30:22,790 --> 01:30:22,800
see. You know, most parents wouldn't
 

4641
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,629
see. You know, most parents wouldn't
want, you know, these random especially

4642
01:30:24,629 --> 01:30:24,639
want, you know, these random especially
 

4643
01:30:24,639 --> 01:30:27,510
want, you know, these random especially
drama YouTubers, you know, to have their

4644
01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:27,520
drama YouTubers, you know, to have their
 

4645
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,870
drama YouTubers, you know, to have their
kid attached to that, right? Yeah. Okay.

4646
01:30:30,870 --> 01:30:30,880
kid attached to that, right? Yeah. Okay.
 

4647
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:32,550
kid attached to that, right? Yeah. Okay.
I thought that that your kid was like

4648
01:30:32,550 --> 01:30:32,560
I thought that that your kid was like
 

4649
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:33,830
I thought that that your kid was like
featured on the show and you were trying

4650
01:30:33,830 --> 01:30:33,840
featured on the show and you were trying
 

4651
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:35,669
featured on the show and you were trying
to like copyright or not copyright but

4652
01:30:35,669 --> 01:30:35,679
to like copyright or not copyright but
 

4653
01:30:35,679 --> 01:30:37,270
to like copyright or not copyright but
have a privacy complaint on a clip that

4654
01:30:37,270 --> 01:30:37,280
have a privacy complaint on a clip that
 

4655
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:38,950
have a privacy complaint on a clip that
wasn't inherently yours or something.

4656
01:30:38,950 --> 01:30:38,960
wasn't inherently yours or something.
 

4657
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,030
wasn't inherently yours or something.
But now knowing that like he tried to

4658
01:30:41,030 --> 01:30:41,040
But now knowing that like he tried to
 

4659
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:42,550
But now knowing that like he tried to
find pictures of your child or

4660
01:30:42,550 --> 01:30:42,560
find pictures of your child or
 

4661
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:45,030
find pictures of your child or
something, that is a little weird.

4662
01:30:45,030 --> 01:30:45,040
something, that is a little weird.
 

4663
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:49,590
something, that is a little weird.
That's a little weird. It is like it's

4664
01:30:49,590 --> 01:30:49,600
That's a little weird. It is like it's
 

4665
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:50,790
That's a little weird. It is like it's
weird when people do it to family

4666
01:30:50,790 --> 01:30:50,800
weird when people do it to family
 

4667
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:52,070
weird when people do it to family
channels and you're not a family

4668
01:30:52,070 --> 01:30:52,080
channels and you're not a family
 

4669
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:54,590
channels and you're not a family
channel. Like

4670
01:30:54,590 --> 01:30:54,600
channel. Like
 

4671
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:56,950
channel. Like
Right. Right. Like then I kind of would

4672
01:30:56,950 --> 01:30:56,960
Right. Right. Like then I kind of would
 

4673
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:58,550
Right. Right. Like then I kind of would
get it, you know, if like, oh, my whole

4674
01:30:58,550 --> 01:30:58,560
get it, you know, if like, oh, my whole
 

4675
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,870
get it, you know, if like, oh, my whole
YouTube is just video vlogs or

4676
01:31:00,870 --> 01:31:00,880
YouTube is just video vlogs or
 

4677
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:02,629
YouTube is just video vlogs or
something. But no, it was not like that.

4678
01:31:02,629 --> 01:31:02,639
something. But no, it was not like that.
 

4679
01:31:02,639 --> 01:31:04,229
something. But no, it was not like that.
So seeing that, it was kind of

4680
01:31:04,229 --> 01:31:04,239
So seeing that, it was kind of
 

4681
01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:06,950
So seeing that, it was kind of
horrifying. Like, oh my god. Yeah. It's

4682
01:31:06,950 --> 01:31:06,960
horrifying. Like, oh my god. Yeah. It's
 

4683
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,110
horrifying. Like, oh my god. Yeah. It's
It's like deciding to be like, "Ah, this

4684
01:31:09,110 --> 01:31:09,120
It's like deciding to be like, "Ah, this
 

4685
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:12,550
It's like deciding to be like, "Ah, this
infant private figure who cannot consent

4686
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:12,560
infant private figure who cannot consent
 

4687
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:15,590
infant private figure who cannot consent
to being on camera. Yes, that's my

4688
01:31:15,590 --> 01:31:15,600
to being on camera. Yes, that's my
 

4689
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,870
to being on camera. Yes, that's my
smoking gun." Yeah. Yes. Let's put this

4690
01:31:18,870 --> 01:31:18,880
smoking gun." Yeah. Yes. Let's put this
 

4691
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,350
smoking gun." Yeah. Yes. Let's put this
on a drama video. Like, that's just

4692
01:31:21,350 --> 01:31:21,360
on a drama video. Like, that's just
 

4693
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,750
on a drama video. Like, that's just
that's not right. Yeah. It would be one

4694
01:31:23,750 --> 01:31:23,760
that's not right. Yeah. It would be one
 

4695
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:25,510
that's not right. Yeah. It would be one
thing, I guess, if it were like if they

4696
01:31:25,510 --> 01:31:25,520
thing, I guess, if it were like if they
 

4697
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,590
thing, I guess, if it were like if they
if your child's face was featured on Dr.

4698
01:31:27,590 --> 01:31:27,600
if your child's face was featured on Dr.
 

4699
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,270
if your child's face was featured on Dr.
Phil and that was just like something

4700
01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:29,280
Phil and that was just like something
 

4701
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:30,950
Phil and that was just like something
inherently part of the show that like

4702
01:31:30,950 --> 01:31:30,960
inherently part of the show that like
 

4703
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:32,629
inherently part of the show that like
Dylan just kind of featured cuz maybe he

4704
01:31:32,629 --> 01:31:32,639
Dylan just kind of featured cuz maybe he
 

4705
01:31:32,639 --> 01:31:34,390
Dylan just kind of featured cuz maybe he
like I don't know live streamed and

4706
01:31:34,390 --> 01:31:34,400
like I don't know live streamed and
 

4707
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:35,669
like I don't know live streamed and
watching that episode or something. I

4708
01:31:35,669 --> 01:31:35,679
watching that episode or something. I
 

4709
01:31:35,679 --> 01:31:37,510
watching that episode or something. I
don't know. But like it's another thing

4710
01:31:37,510 --> 01:31:37,520
don't know. But like it's another thing
 

4711
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,590
don't know. But like it's another thing
for that to not be featured on the show

4712
01:31:39,590 --> 01:31:39,600
for that to not be featured on the show
 

4713
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:41,350
for that to not be featured on the show
at all and for him to be like let me go

4714
01:31:41,350 --> 01:31:41,360
at all and for him to be like let me go
 

4715
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:42,870
at all and for him to be like let me go
digging and see where this kid is if

4716
01:31:42,870 --> 01:31:42,880
digging and see where this kid is if
 

4717
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:44,470
digging and see where this kid is if
this kid's alive or like what they look

4718
01:31:44,470 --> 01:31:44,480
this kid's alive or like what they look
 

4719
01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:46,950
this kid's alive or like what they look
like today cuz this Dr. Phil clip's old

4720
01:31:46,950 --> 01:31:46,960
like today cuz this Dr. Phil clip's old
 

4721
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,430
like today cuz this Dr. Phil clip's old
or whatever the hell. That's weird.

4722
01:31:49,430 --> 01:31:49,440
or whatever the hell. That's weird.
 

4723
01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:52,149
or whatever the hell. That's weird.
That's really weird. Yep.

4724
01:31:52,149 --> 01:31:52,159
That's really weird. Yep.
 

4725
01:31:52,159 --> 01:31:53,669
That's really weird. Yep.
So, I guess that would happen. And

4726
01:31:53,669 --> 01:31:53,679
So, I guess that would happen. And
 

4727
01:31:53,679 --> 01:31:56,470
So, I guess that would happen. And
that's why I'm like, "Yeah, no." Yeah. I

4728
01:31:56,470 --> 01:31:56,480
that's why I'm like, "Yeah, no." Yeah. I
 

4729
01:31:56,480 --> 01:31:58,229
that's why I'm like, "Yeah, no." Yeah. I
guess that then, you know, cuz people

4730
01:31:58,229 --> 01:31:58,239
guess that then, you know, cuz people
 

4731
01:31:58,239 --> 01:31:59,590
guess that then, you know, cuz people
were saying that like you were trying to

4732
01:31:59,590 --> 01:31:59,600
were saying that like you were trying to
 

4733
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:01,750
were saying that like you were trying to
take his whole channel down, but like if

4734
01:32:01,750 --> 01:32:01,760
take his whole channel down, but like if
 

4735
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:03,350
take his whole channel down, but like if
it was just like just that video because

4736
01:32:03,350 --> 01:32:03,360
it was just like just that video because
 

4737
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,270
it was just like just that video because
he was like trying to like showcase your

4738
01:32:05,270 --> 01:32:05,280
he was like trying to like showcase your
 

4739
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,110
he was like trying to like showcase your
kid. I I guess I kind of understand that

4740
01:32:07,110 --> 01:32:07,120
kid. I I guess I kind of understand that
 

4741
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,669
kid. I I guess I kind of understand that
cuz like that kid can't consent to being

4742
01:32:09,669 --> 01:32:09,679
cuz like that kid can't consent to being
 

4743
01:32:09,679 --> 01:32:12,149
cuz like that kid can't consent to being
on a rando like a random stranger's

4744
01:32:12,149 --> 01:32:12,159
on a rando like a random stranger's
 

4745
01:32:12,159 --> 01:32:15,270
on a rando like a random stranger's
YouTube channel. That's weird.

4746
01:32:15,270 --> 01:32:15,280
YouTube channel. That's weird.
 

4747
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:18,550
YouTube channel. That's weird.
It's just Exactly. I can't I can't ever

4748
01:32:18,550 --> 01:32:18,560
It's just Exactly. I can't I can't ever
 

4749
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,510
It's just Exactly. I can't I can't ever
see an actual event in my life where I'm

4750
01:32:21,510 --> 01:32:21,520
see an actual event in my life where I'm
 

4751
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,149
see an actual event in my life where I'm
like I know what I have to do. Expose

4752
01:32:24,149 --> 01:32:24,159
like I know what I have to do. Expose
 

4753
01:32:24,159 --> 01:32:27,590
like I know what I have to do. Expose
the child. Yeah. Yeah. Like like let's

4754
01:32:27,590 --> 01:32:27,600
the child. Yeah. Yeah. Like like let's
 

4755
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,270
the child. Yeah. Yeah. Like like let's
bring forth a kid now that we're already

4756
01:32:29,270 --> 01:32:29,280
bring forth a kid now that we're already
 

4757
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:30,470
bring forth a kid now that we're already
talking about it. Like that's so

4758
01:32:30,470 --> 01:32:30,480
talking about it. Like that's so
 

4759
01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:36,149
talking about it. Like that's so
strange. Yeah. Some some are just weird.

4760
01:32:36,149 --> 01:32:36,159
strange. Yeah. Some some are just weird.
 

4761
01:32:36,159 --> 01:32:39,189
strange. Yeah. Some some are just weird.
It's just such an invasion of private.

4762
01:32:39,189 --> 01:32:39,199
It's just such an invasion of private.
 

4763
01:32:39,199 --> 01:32:41,510
It's just such an invasion of private.
I agree. And not to mention Dylan Thomas

4764
01:32:41,510 --> 01:32:41,520
I agree. And not to mention Dylan Thomas
 

4765
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,189
I agree. And not to mention Dylan Thomas
gets later canled anyway. So you know

4766
01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:43,199
gets later canled anyway. So you know
 

4767
01:32:43,199 --> 01:32:44,709
gets later canled anyway. So you know
what? Maybe you were always in the

4768
01:32:44,709 --> 01:32:44,719
what? Maybe you were always in the
 

4769
01:32:44,719 --> 01:32:46,390
what? Maybe you were always in the
right. Maybe maybe you just were ahead

4770
01:32:46,390 --> 01:32:46,400
right. Maybe maybe you just were ahead
 

4771
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:49,110
right. Maybe maybe you just were ahead
of the curve. I don't know. Maybe you

4772
01:32:49,110 --> 01:32:49,120
of the curve. I don't know. Maybe you
 

4773
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:52,470
of the curve. I don't know. Maybe you
foresaw the future, you know? Well, even

4774
01:32:52,470 --> 01:32:52,480
foresaw the future, you know? Well, even
 

4775
01:32:52,480 --> 01:32:54,310
foresaw the future, you know? Well, even
even before he got like publicly

4776
01:32:54,310 --> 01:32:54,320
even before he got like publicly
 

4777
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,550
even before he got like publicly
cancelled by everybody, most people in

4778
01:32:56,550 --> 01:32:56,560
cancelled by everybody, most people in
 

4779
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,110
cancelled by everybody, most people in
the Sonic community space did not like

4780
01:32:59,110 --> 01:32:59,120
the Sonic community space did not like
 

4781
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,110
the Sonic community space did not like
him because he constantly would pick

4782
01:33:01,110 --> 01:33:01,120
him because he constantly would pick
 

4783
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,430
him because he constantly would pick
fights with people. He would make really

4784
01:33:03,430 --> 01:33:03,440
fights with people. He would make really
 

4785
01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:05,590
fights with people. He would make really
mean, like just mean-spirited videos

4786
01:33:05,590 --> 01:33:05,600
mean, like just mean-spirited videos
 

4787
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,910
mean, like just mean-spirited videos
about a lot of people. And because of

4788
01:33:07,910 --> 01:33:07,920
about a lot of people. And because of
 

4789
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:09,669
about a lot of people. And because of
that, even before he technically got

4790
01:33:09,669 --> 01:33:09,679
that, even before he technically got
 

4791
01:33:09,679 --> 01:33:12,229
that, even before he technically got
cancelled like outright and it got like

4792
01:33:12,229 --> 01:33:12,239
cancelled like outright and it got like
 

4793
01:33:12,239 --> 01:33:15,350
cancelled like outright and it got like
very, it was very public. Um, I guess

4794
01:33:15,350 --> 01:33:15,360
very, it was very public. Um, I guess
 

4795
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:16,629
very, it was very public. Um, I guess
public's not the right word. I guess

4796
01:33:16,629 --> 01:33:16,639
public's not the right word. I guess
 

4797
01:33:16,639 --> 01:33:18,629
public's not the right word. I guess
very like mainstream. Like everybody,

4798
01:33:18,629 --> 01:33:18,639
very like mainstream. Like everybody,
 

4799
01:33:18,639 --> 01:33:20,470
very like mainstream. Like everybody,
all of these other communities finding

4800
01:33:20,470 --> 01:33:20,480
all of these other communities finding
 

4801
01:33:20,480 --> 01:33:22,950
all of these other communities finding
out about him. Even then, just people

4802
01:33:22,950 --> 01:33:22,960
out about him. Even then, just people
 

4803
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,270
out about him. Even then, just people
within the uh the Sonic community space

4804
01:33:25,270 --> 01:33:25,280
within the uh the Sonic community space
 

4805
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:28,550
within the uh the Sonic community space
were like, "Oh god, this dude.

4806
01:33:28,550 --> 01:33:28,560
were like, "Oh god, this dude.
 

4807
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,750
were like, "Oh god, this dude.
He already has a bad reputation.

4808
01:33:31,750 --> 01:33:31,760
He already has a bad reputation.
 

4809
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,550
He already has a bad reputation.
That's Yeah, unfortunately."

4810
01:33:34,550 --> 01:33:34,560
That's Yeah, unfortunately."
 

4811
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:36,149
That's Yeah, unfortunately."
All right. So, this is just a random

4812
01:33:36,149 --> 01:33:36,159
All right. So, this is just a random
 

4813
01:33:36,159 --> 01:33:38,229
All right. So, this is just a random
Twitter user. I I know that you This is

4814
01:33:38,229 --> 01:33:38,239
Twitter user. I I know that you This is
 

4815
01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:40,229
Twitter user. I I know that you This is
probably not really This is kind of like

4816
01:33:40,229 --> 01:33:40,239
probably not really This is kind of like
 

4817
01:33:40,239 --> 01:33:43,510
probably not really This is kind of like
a side thing. um just it involves a lot

4818
01:33:43,510 --> 01:33:43,520
a side thing. um just it involves a lot
 

4819
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,189
a side thing. um just it involves a lot
of different guys, but I said I would

4820
01:33:45,189 --> 01:33:45,199
of different guys, but I said I would
 

4821
01:33:45,199 --> 01:33:48,390
of different guys, but I said I would
rewrite back to it. So, this g the gamer

4822
01:33:48,390 --> 01:33:48,400
rewrite back to it. So, this g the gamer
 

4823
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,550
rewrite back to it. So, this g the gamer
guy um Seven Aces who was part of the

4824
01:33:50,550 --> 01:33:50,560
guy um Seven Aces who was part of the
 

4825
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,550
guy um Seven Aces who was part of the
Wrath of Nazo thing got into a little

4826
01:33:52,550 --> 01:33:52,560
Wrath of Nazo thing got into a little
 

4827
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:56,070
Wrath of Nazo thing got into a little
bit of a uh a I was going to say

4828
01:33:56,070 --> 01:33:56,080
bit of a uh a I was going to say
 

4829
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:58,270
bit of a uh a I was going to say
four-way. That's not a good word for it.

4830
01:33:58,270 --> 01:33:58,280
four-way. That's not a good word for it.
 

4831
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,669
four-way. That's not a good word for it.
Um he was part of a group of friends,

4832
01:34:01,669 --> 01:34:01,679
Um he was part of a group of friends,
 

4833
01:34:01,679 --> 01:34:03,669
Um he was part of a group of friends,
one of which was even Dylan Till and

4834
01:34:03,669 --> 01:34:03,679
one of which was even Dylan Till and
 

4835
01:34:03,679 --> 01:34:06,149
one of which was even Dylan Till and
Thomas from later that we discussed. um

4836
01:34:06,149 --> 01:34:06,159
Thomas from later that we discussed. um
 

4837
01:34:06,159 --> 01:34:09,350
Thomas from later that we discussed. um
a guy named uh Lord Danny and a guy

4838
01:34:09,350 --> 01:34:09,360
a guy named uh Lord Danny and a guy
 

4839
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:12,709
a guy named uh Lord Danny and a guy
named Cissonic aka uh Francisco. They

4840
01:34:12,709 --> 01:34:12,719
named Cissonic aka uh Francisco. They
 

4841
01:34:12,719 --> 01:34:15,750
named Cissonic aka uh Francisco. They
were in a bit of a group chat. Yeah.

4842
01:34:15,750 --> 01:34:15,760
were in a bit of a group chat. Yeah.
 

4843
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:17,430
were in a bit of a group chat. Yeah.
Talking about trying to get you

4844
01:34:17,430 --> 01:34:17,440
Talking about trying to get you
 

4845
01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:20,709
Talking about trying to get you
investigated or arrested or something in

4846
01:34:20,709 --> 01:34:20,719
investigated or arrested or something in
 

4847
01:34:20,719 --> 01:34:21,550
investigated or arrested or something in
regards

4848
01:34:21,550 --> 01:34:21,560
regards
 

4849
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:25,189
regards
to a dildo, which you have discussed

4850
01:34:25,189 --> 01:34:25,199
to a dildo, which you have discussed
 

4851
01:34:25,199 --> 01:34:28,390
to a dildo, which you have discussed
with blue with blue-eyed fox. Um, were

4852
01:34:28,390 --> 01:34:28,400
with blue with blue-eyed fox. Um, were
 

4853
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,790
with blue with blue-eyed fox. Um, were
you aware that these four guys were

4854
01:34:30,790 --> 01:34:30,800
you aware that these four guys were
 

4855
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:33,110
you aware that these four guys were
apparently trying to like say that they

4856
01:34:33,110 --> 01:34:33,120
apparently trying to like say that they
 

4857
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:34,709
apparently trying to like say that they
need to call the police on you for a

4858
01:34:34,709 --> 01:34:34,719
need to call the police on you for a
 

4859
01:34:34,719 --> 01:34:38,070
need to call the police on you for a
dildo?

4860
01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:38,080

 

4861
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,790

Well, I did not know until some of those

4862
01:34:40,790 --> 01:34:40,800
Well, I did not know until some of those
 

4863
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,030
Well, I did not know until some of those
screenshots began to leak to the public.

4864
01:34:43,030 --> 01:34:43,040
screenshots began to leak to the public.
 

4865
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,669
screenshots began to leak to the public.
I found out about them eventually. Uh,

4866
01:34:45,669 --> 01:34:45,679
I found out about them eventually. Uh,
 

4867
01:34:45,679 --> 01:34:48,070
I found out about them eventually. Uh,
but yeah, this was something that even

4868
01:34:48,070 --> 01:34:48,080
but yeah, this was something that even
 

4869
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:49,910
but yeah, this was something that even
from the beginning, like Blue-Eyed would

4870
01:34:49,910 --> 01:34:49,920
from the beginning, like Blue-Eyed would
 

4871
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:51,910
from the beginning, like Blue-Eyed would
say these things like, you know, how how

4872
01:34:51,910 --> 01:34:51,920
say these things like, you know, how how
 

4873
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:55,110
say these things like, you know, how how
could she have a dildo? She has a child.

4874
01:34:55,110 --> 01:34:55,120
could she have a dildo? She has a child.
 

4875
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:56,910
could she have a dildo? She has a child.
And my immediate thought

4876
01:34:56,910 --> 01:34:56,920
And my immediate thought
 

4877
01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:01,510
And my immediate thought
is, okay, what what's your mom probably

4878
01:35:01,510 --> 01:35:01,520
is, okay, what what's your mom probably
 

4879
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:03,110
is, okay, what what's your mom probably
has a dildo? What what's what what are

4880
01:35:03,110 --> 01:35:03,120
has a dildo? What what's what what are
 

4881
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,350
has a dildo? What what's what what are
you trying to get at here? You know,

4882
01:35:05,350 --> 01:35:05,360
you trying to get at here? You know,
 

4883
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:07,750
you trying to get at here? You know,
like it's not like this is, you know, a

4884
01:35:07,750 --> 01:35:07,760
like it's not like this is, you know, a
 

4885
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,149
like it's not like this is, you know, a
public setting and like the kid, you

4886
01:35:10,149 --> 01:35:10,159
public setting and like the kid, you
 

4887
01:35:10,159 --> 01:35:12,629
public setting and like the kid, you
know, my child's in the photo. This was

4888
01:35:12,629 --> 01:35:12,639
know, my child's in the photo. This was
 

4889
01:35:12,639 --> 01:35:15,510
know, my child's in the photo. This was
in the privacy of my bedroom at 3:00 in

4890
01:35:15,510 --> 01:35:15,520
in the privacy of my bedroom at 3:00 in
 

4891
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,910
in the privacy of my bedroom at 3:00 in
the morning. my kid is sleeping. And

4892
01:35:17,910 --> 01:35:17,920
the morning. my kid is sleeping. And
 

4893
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:19,590
the morning. my kid is sleeping. And
yeah, this was this was something that

4894
01:35:19,590 --> 01:35:19,600
yeah, this was this was something that
 

4895
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:21,270
yeah, this was this was something that
had just kind of sparked starting with

4896
01:35:21,270 --> 01:35:21,280
had just kind of sparked starting with
 

4897
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,430
had just kind of sparked starting with
Blue-Eyed and eventually led to this

4898
01:35:23,430 --> 01:35:23,440
Blue-Eyed and eventually led to this
 

4899
01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:25,110
Blue-Eyed and eventually led to this
group chat that I didn't know about

4900
01:35:25,110 --> 01:35:25,120
group chat that I didn't know about
 

4901
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:26,709
group chat that I didn't know about
immediately, but then would find out

4902
01:35:26,709 --> 01:35:26,719
immediately, but then would find out
 

4903
01:35:26,719 --> 01:35:29,750
immediately, but then would find out
about once those screenshots had leaked.

4904
01:35:29,750 --> 01:35:29,760
about once those screenshots had leaked.
 

4905
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:33,510
about once those screenshots had leaked.
And uh you know it was it was something

4906
01:35:33,510 --> 01:35:33,520
And uh you know it was it was something
 

4907
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,110
And uh you know it was it was something
uh that was something that Gamer Guide

4908
01:35:35,110 --> 01:35:35,120
uh that was something that Gamer Guide
 

4909
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,669
uh that was something that Gamer Guide
in particular it was something like that

4910
01:35:37,669 --> 01:35:37,679
in particular it was something like that
 

4911
01:35:37,679 --> 01:35:38,870
in particular it was something like that
was something that Gamer Guide in

4912
01:35:38,870 --> 01:35:38,880
was something that Gamer Guide in
 

4913
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,910
was something that Gamer Guide in
particular like he really tried to like

4914
01:35:41,910 --> 01:35:41,920
particular like he really tried to like
 

4915
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,310
particular like he really tried to like
cancel me over this like he he really

4916
01:35:44,310 --> 01:35:44,320
cancel me over this like he he really
 

4917
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:46,030
cancel me over this like he he really
thought this was going to be like

4918
01:35:46,030 --> 01:35:46,040
thought this was going to be like
 

4919
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:48,870
thought this was going to be like
this juicy information that was just

4920
01:35:48,870 --> 01:35:48,880
this juicy information that was just
 

4921
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,030
this juicy information that was just
going to like I guess ruin me. You know,

4922
01:35:51,030 --> 01:35:51,040
going to like I guess ruin me. You know,
 

4923
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:52,550
going to like I guess ruin me. You know,
this is kind of what they thought, I

4924
01:35:52,550 --> 01:35:52,560
this is kind of what they thought, I
 

4925
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,350
this is kind of what they thought, I
guess. And they did talk about god

4926
01:35:55,350 --> 01:35:55,360
guess. And they did talk about god
 

4927
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:57,669
guess. And they did talk about god
forbid parent, gosh forbid parents have

4928
01:35:57,669 --> 01:35:57,679
forbid parent, gosh forbid parents have
 

4929
01:35:57,679 --> 01:35:59,910
forbid parent, gosh forbid parents have
their own lives. Like, right, the minute

4930
01:35:59,910 --> 01:35:59,920
their own lives. Like, right, the minute
 

4931
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:01,669
their own lives. Like, right, the minute
you give birth to a child, your life is

4932
01:36:01,669 --> 01:36:01,679
you give birth to a child, your life is
 

4933
01:36:01,679 --> 01:36:03,390
you give birth to a child, your life is
all about that child

4934
01:36:03,390 --> 01:36:03,400
all about that child
 

4935
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:06,629
all about that child
24/7. Nothing. If everything that you

4936
01:36:06,629 --> 01:36:06,639
24/7. Nothing. If everything that you
 

4937
01:36:06,639 --> 01:36:09,590
24/7. Nothing. If everything that you
must do is about that one child, right?

4938
01:36:09,590 --> 01:36:09,600
must do is about that one child, right?
 

4939
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,390
must do is about that one child, right?
Yeah. Yeah. You can't I don't know if

4940
01:36:12,390 --> 01:36:12,400
Yeah. Yeah. You can't I don't know if
 

4941
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:13,910
Yeah. Yeah. You can't I don't know if
you guys knew this, but like when you

4942
01:36:13,910 --> 01:36:13,920
you guys knew this, but like when you
 

4943
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:15,750
you guys knew this, but like when you
have sex and you have a kid, you can't

4944
01:36:15,750 --> 01:36:15,760
have sex and you have a kid, you can't
 

4945
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,750
have sex and you have a kid, you can't
[\h__\h] again. Sorry, we might have to

4946
01:36:17,750 --> 01:36:17,760
[\h__\h] again. Sorry, we might have to
 

4947
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:20,950
[\h__\h] again. Sorry, we might have to
sense that part out.

4948
01:36:20,950 --> 01:36:20,960
sense that part out.
 

4949
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,110
sense that part out.
Oh my god. You know what I mean? Like

4950
01:36:23,110 --> 01:36:23,120
Oh my god. You know what I mean? Like
 

4951
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,470
Oh my god. You know what I mean? Like
that seems mindset here. Uh trust me,

4952
01:36:26,470 --> 01:36:26,480
that seems mindset here. Uh trust me,
 

4953
01:36:26,480 --> 01:36:28,070
that seems mindset here. Uh trust me,
we're we're allowed to swear on this

4954
01:36:28,070 --> 01:36:28,080
we're we're allowed to swear on this
 

4955
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,990
we're we're allowed to swear on this
channel.

4956
01:36:29,990 --> 01:36:30,000
channel.
 

4957
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:31,750
channel.
Okay. Okay. It's only It's only my

4958
01:36:31,750 --> 01:36:31,760
Okay. Okay. It's only It's only my
 

4959
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:35,510
Okay. Okay. It's only It's only my
channel. There's no swear on. Uh okay.

4960
01:36:35,510 --> 01:36:35,520
channel. There's no swear on. Uh okay.
 

4961
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,270
channel. There's no swear on. Uh okay.
Okay. Sorry. As I said it, I'm like,

4962
01:36:37,270 --> 01:36:37,280
Okay. Sorry. As I said it, I'm like,
 

4963
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:40,390
Okay. Sorry. As I said it, I'm like,
"Oh, wait. Hold on." No, it's already

4964
01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:40,400
"Oh, wait. Hold on." No, it's already
 

4965
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:42,310
"Oh, wait. Hold on." No, it's already
It's okay. People are used to me

4966
01:36:42,310 --> 01:36:42,320
It's okay. People are used to me
 

4967
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,950
It's okay. People are used to me
dropping that particular fbomb. Yeah,

4968
01:36:44,950 --> 01:36:44,960
dropping that particular fbomb. Yeah,
 

4969
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,990
dropping that particular fbomb. Yeah,
that's uh the talk of the s fluid might

4970
01:36:47,990 --> 01:36:48,000
that's uh the talk of the s fluid might
 

4971
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,510
that's uh the talk of the s fluid might
be a little bit of a surprise for them,

4972
01:36:49,510 --> 01:36:49,520
be a little bit of a surprise for them,
 

4973
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:51,850
be a little bit of a surprise for them,
but um

4974
01:36:51,850 --> 01:36:51,860
but um
 

4975
01:36:51,860 --> 01:36:53,270
but um
[Music]

4976
01:36:53,270 --> 01:36:53,280
[Music]
 

4977
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,990
[Music]
swearing swearing go to town. This is

4978
01:36:55,990 --> 01:36:56,000
swearing swearing go to town. This is
 

4979
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:57,270
swearing swearing go to town. This is
the weirdest interview I've ever been

4980
01:36:57,270 --> 01:36:57,280
the weirdest interview I've ever been
 

4981
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:58,709
the weirdest interview I've ever been
where I'm like, can we talk about the

4982
01:36:58,709 --> 01:36:58,719
where I'm like, can we talk about the
 

4983
01:36:58,719 --> 01:37:01,270
where I'm like, can we talk about the
dildo incident? I never thought I'd have

4984
01:37:01,270 --> 01:37:01,280
dildo incident? I never thought I'd have
 

4985
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,470
dildo incident? I never thought I'd have
to ask that question.

4986
01:37:04,470 --> 01:37:04,480
to ask that question.
 

4987
01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:06,550
to ask that question.
Like, what's the incident? Well, you

4988
01:37:06,550 --> 01:37:06,560
Like, what's the incident? Well, you
 

4989
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:09,590
Like, what's the incident? Well, you
have you have one. Okay. [\h__\h] Did you

4990
01:37:09,590 --> 01:37:09,600
have you have one. Okay. [\h__\h] Did you
 

4991
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,030
have you have one. Okay. [\h__\h] Did you
mention you mentioned this because you

4992
01:37:11,030 --> 01:37:11,040
mention you mentioned this because you
 

4993
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:11,990
mention you mentioned this because you
said you when we were talking about

4994
01:37:11,990 --> 01:37:12,000
said you when we were talking about
 

4995
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,510
said you when we were talking about
Blue-Eyed Fox that this was like a gag

4996
01:37:13,510 --> 01:37:13,520
Blue-Eyed Fox that this was like a gag
 

4997
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:14,709
Blue-Eyed Fox that this was like a gag
gift from your friends or something?

4998
01:37:14,709 --> 01:37:14,719
gift from your friends or something?
 

4999
01:37:14,719 --> 01:37:15,990
gift from your friends or something?
Like you didn't even buy this for

5000
01:37:15,990 --> 01:37:16,000
Like you didn't even buy this for
 

5001
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:19,910
Like you didn't even buy this for
yourself. You just had this as a joke.

5002
01:37:19,910 --> 01:37:19,920
yourself. You just had this as a joke.
 

5003
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:22,950
yourself. You just had this as a joke.
Yes. Because like I remember I was like

5004
01:37:22,950 --> 01:37:22,960
Yes. Because like I remember I was like
 

5005
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:27,669
Yes. Because like I remember I was like
18 and uh I got invited to like a sex

5006
01:37:27,669 --> 01:37:27,679
18 and uh I got invited to like a sex
 

5007
01:37:27,679 --> 01:37:29,590
18 and uh I got invited to like a sex
toy party and I was very like

5008
01:37:29,590 --> 01:37:29,600
toy party and I was very like
 

5009
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:31,030
toy party and I was very like
uncomfortable. I was like I don't want

5010
01:37:31,030 --> 01:37:31,040
uncomfortable. I was like I don't want
 

5011
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,830
uncomfortable. I was like I don't want
to be here. This is too much for me. And

5012
01:37:33,830 --> 01:37:33,840
to be here. This is too much for me. And
 

5013
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:35,270
to be here. This is too much for me. And
like all of my friends, they're having

5014
01:37:35,270 --> 01:37:35,280
like all of my friends, they're having
 

5015
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:37,590
like all of my friends, they're having
so much fun and this is just whatever.

5016
01:37:37,590 --> 01:37:37,600
so much fun and this is just whatever.
 

5017
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:39,669
so much fun and this is just whatever.
And at the end they're like ordering

5018
01:37:39,669 --> 01:37:39,679
And at the end they're like ordering
 

5019
01:37:39,679 --> 01:37:41,189
And at the end they're like ordering
toys and all this and they wound up

5020
01:37:41,189 --> 01:37:41,199
toys and all this and they wound up
 

5021
01:37:41,199 --> 01:37:43,990
toys and all this and they wound up
ordering that for me just to like kind

5022
01:37:43,990 --> 01:37:44,000
ordering that for me just to like kind
 

5023
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:45,830
ordering that for me just to like kind
of tease me you know and make fun of it

5024
01:37:45,830 --> 01:37:45,840
of tease me you know and make fun of it
 

5025
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,470
of tease me you know and make fun of it
was a gag gift to like kind of like you

5026
01:37:48,470 --> 01:37:48,480
was a gag gift to like kind of like you
 

5027
01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:50,149
was a gag gift to like kind of like you
know lighten up. It's it's not the end

5028
01:37:50,149 --> 01:37:50,159
know lighten up. It's it's not the end
 

5029
01:37:50,159 --> 01:37:52,070
know lighten up. It's it's not the end
of the world you know you being in this

5030
01:37:52,070 --> 01:37:52,080
of the world you know you being in this
 

5031
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:54,390
of the world you know you being in this
at this party. And uh yeah for a little

5032
01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:54,400
at this party. And uh yeah for a little
 

5033
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:55,750
at this party. And uh yeah for a little
while I held on to it because I thought

5034
01:37:55,750 --> 01:37:55,760
while I held on to it because I thought
 

5035
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,070
while I held on to it because I thought
it was really funny. I mean to be fair

5036
01:37:58,070 --> 01:37:58,080
it was really funny. I mean to be fair
 

5037
01:37:58,080 --> 01:37:59,350
it was really funny. I mean to be fair
like my friend used to work at a

5038
01:37:59,350 --> 01:37:59,360
like my friend used to work at a
 

5039
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:01,430
like my friend used to work at a
Spencers and like you know how Spencers

5040
01:38:01,430 --> 01:38:01,440
Spencers and like you know how Spencers
 

5041
01:38:01,440 --> 01:38:03,430
Spencers and like you know how Spencers
are, right? They got all the memorabilia

5042
01:38:03,430 --> 01:38:03,440
are, right? They got all the memorabilia
 

5043
01:38:03,440 --> 01:38:06,390
are, right? They got all the memorabilia
of dicks and that that's what she would

5044
01:38:06,390 --> 01:38:06,400
of dicks and that that's what she would
 

5045
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,790
of dicks and that that's what she would
get as dag gag gets like dick popsicles

5046
01:38:08,790 --> 01:38:08,800
get as dag gag gets like dick popsicles
 

5047
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,430
get as dag gag gets like dick popsicles
or something like that like cuz she

5048
01:38:11,430 --> 01:38:11,440
or something like that like cuz she
 

5049
01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:13,030
or something like that like cuz she
worked there. She got a discount. She

5050
01:38:13,030 --> 01:38:13,040
worked there. She got a discount. She
 

5051
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:14,390
worked there. She got a discount. She
thought it was funny. I'm like you know

5052
01:38:14,390 --> 01:38:14,400
thought it was funny. I'm like you know
 

5053
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:15,830
thought it was funny. I'm like you know
what this is really funny. I don't know

5054
01:38:15,830 --> 01:38:15,840
what this is really funny. I don't know
 

5055
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:17,350
what this is really funny. I don't know
if I can eat this with a straight face

5056
01:38:17,350 --> 01:38:17,360
if I can eat this with a straight face
 

5057
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:21,270
if I can eat this with a straight face
but thank you. Thanks. Yes. No. Exactly.

5058
01:38:21,270 --> 01:38:21,280
but thank you. Thanks. Yes. No. Exactly.
 

5059
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,109
but thank you. Thanks. Yes. No. Exactly.
Exactly. And that's how I felt with

5060
01:38:23,109 --> 01:38:23,119
Exactly. And that's how I felt with
 

5061
01:38:23,119 --> 01:38:25,189
Exactly. And that's how I felt with
this. I'm like well thank you. I'm not

5062
01:38:25,189 --> 01:38:25,199
this. I'm like well thank you. I'm not
 

5063
01:38:25,199 --> 01:38:26,790
this. I'm like well thank you. I'm not
going to do anything with this, but

5064
01:38:26,790 --> 01:38:26,800
going to do anything with this, but
 

5065
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,030
going to do anything with this, but
thank you. You know, it's just for a

5066
01:38:29,030 --> 01:38:29,040
thank you. You know, it's just for a
 

5067
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:31,030
thank you. You know, it's just for a
little while, I just anytime I would

5068
01:38:31,030 --> 01:38:31,040
little while, I just anytime I would
 

5069
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:32,790
little while, I just anytime I would
like talk to friends, I'm like, "Look,

5070
01:38:32,790 --> 01:38:32,800
like talk to friends, I'm like, "Look,
 

5071
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:34,950
like talk to friends, I'm like, "Look,
look what my friends got me." Like my I

5072
01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:34,960
look what my friends got me." Like my I
 

5073
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:36,390
look what my friends got me." Like my I
would talk to like online people and be

5074
01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:36,400
would talk to like online people and be
 

5075
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,709
would talk to like online people and be
like, "Yeah, this is what like my my IRL

5076
01:38:38,709 --> 01:38:38,719
like, "Yeah, this is what like my my IRL
 

5077
01:38:38,719 --> 01:38:41,109
like, "Yeah, this is what like my my IRL
friends gave me." And that was part of

5078
01:38:41,109 --> 01:38:41,119
friends gave me." And that was part of
 

5079
01:38:41,119 --> 01:38:42,790
friends gave me." And that was part of
that. I just thought it was funny to

5080
01:38:42,790 --> 01:38:42,800
that. I just thought it was funny to
 

5081
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:44,870
that. I just thought it was funny to
Yeah. It's It's just funny, you know?

5082
01:38:44,870 --> 01:38:44,880
Yeah. It's It's just funny, you know?
 

5083
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:46,950
Yeah. It's It's just funny, you know?
Yeah. So, was their thought process like

5084
01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:46,960
Yeah. So, was their thought process like
 

5085
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:49,030
Yeah. So, was their thought process like
maybe some sort of like cuz I couldn't

5086
01:38:49,030 --> 01:38:49,040
maybe some sort of like cuz I couldn't
 

5087
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:51,830
maybe some sort of like cuz I couldn't
imagine like having a dildo and having a

5088
01:38:51,830 --> 01:38:51,840
imagine like having a dildo and having a
 

5089
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:53,830
imagine like having a dildo and having a
kid at the same time be an illegal

5090
01:38:53,830 --> 01:38:53,840
kid at the same time be an illegal
 

5091
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:55,910
kid at the same time be an illegal
offense? Like did they think that they

5092
01:38:55,910 --> 01:38:55,920
offense? Like did they think that they
 

5093
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:58,310
offense? Like did they think that they
like was it a child endangerment thing?

5094
01:38:58,310 --> 01:38:58,320
like was it a child endangerment thing?
 

5095
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:00,229
like was it a child endangerment thing?
I'm trying to figure out why having a

5096
01:39:00,229 --> 01:39:00,239
I'm trying to figure out why having a
 

5097
01:39:00,239 --> 01:39:02,189
I'm trying to figure out why having a
dildo and a kid is at the same time is

5098
01:39:02,189 --> 01:39:02,199
dildo and a kid is at the same time is
 

5099
01:39:02,199 --> 01:39:06,390
dildo and a kid is at the same time is
illegal cuz I don't think it is.

5100
01:39:06,390 --> 01:39:06,400
illegal cuz I don't think it is.
 

5101
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:08,629
illegal cuz I don't think it is.
I'll be honest, the immediate thought to

5102
01:39:08,629 --> 01:39:08,639
I'll be honest, the immediate thought to
 

5103
01:39:08,639 --> 01:39:12,470
I'll be honest, the immediate thought to
me was, why is it that when you find out

5104
01:39:12,470 --> 01:39:12,480
me was, why is it that when you find out
 

5105
01:39:12,480 --> 01:39:14,550
me was, why is it that when you find out
that I have one, why is it that the

5106
01:39:14,550 --> 01:39:14,560
that I have one, why is it that the
 

5107
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:16,790
that I have one, why is it that the
first thing you're thinking of is

5108
01:39:16,790 --> 01:39:16,800
first thing you're thinking of is
 

5109
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:18,790
first thing you're thinking of is
bringing up my child? I think that's

5110
01:39:18,790 --> 01:39:18,800
bringing up my child? I think that's
 

5111
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,310
bringing up my child? I think that's
really strange. Yeah. You know, like,

5112
01:39:22,310 --> 01:39:22,320
really strange. Yeah. You know, like,
 

5113
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,629
really strange. Yeah. You know, like,
okay. Like, again, I'm going to repeat

5114
01:39:24,629 --> 01:39:24,639
okay. Like, again, I'm going to repeat
 

5115
01:39:24,639 --> 01:39:26,790
okay. Like, again, I'm going to repeat
myself. Like, a lot of your moms

5116
01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:26,800
myself. Like, a lot of your moms
 

5117
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:28,390
myself. Like, a lot of your moms
probably have them. They're they're just

5118
01:39:28,390 --> 01:39:28,400
probably have them. They're they're just
 

5119
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:31,510
probably have them. They're they're just
hiding somewhere. Right. Right. That is

5120
01:39:31,510 --> 01:39:31,520
hiding somewhere. Right. Right. That is
 

5121
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:32,950
hiding somewhere. Right. Right. That is
a bit of a weird reaction that they're

5122
01:39:32,950 --> 01:39:32,960
a bit of a weird reaction that they're
 

5123
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,350
a bit of a weird reaction that they're
like, "Dildo, what about her child?"

5124
01:39:35,350 --> 01:39:35,360
like, "Dildo, what about her child?"
 

5125
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,669
like, "Dildo, what about her child?"
Like, it's like, "Why is that your first

5126
01:39:37,669 --> 01:39:37,679
Like, it's like, "Why is that your first
 

5127
01:39:37,679 --> 01:39:40,229
Like, it's like, "Why is that your first
thought?" Okay. Like,

5128
01:39:40,229 --> 01:39:40,239
thought?" Okay. Like,
 

5129
01:39:40,239 --> 01:39:42,629
thought?" Okay. Like,
okay. Yeah, that's it's kind of a it's a

5130
01:39:42,629 --> 01:39:42,639
okay. Yeah, that's it's kind of a it's a
 

5131
01:39:42,639 --> 01:39:44,550
okay. Yeah, that's it's kind of a it's a
weird first thing to think about. Like,

5132
01:39:44,550 --> 01:39:44,560
weird first thing to think about. Like,
 

5133
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:46,870
weird first thing to think about. Like,
what what about her? You know, I my What

5134
01:39:46,870 --> 01:39:46,880
what what about her? You know, I my What
 

5135
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:48,470
what what about her? You know, I my What
does what do those two have anything to

5136
01:39:48,470 --> 01:39:48,480
does what do those two have anything to
 

5137
01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:51,669
does what do those two have anything to
correlate? I don't understand.

5138
01:39:51,669 --> 01:39:51,679
correlate? I don't understand.
 

5139
01:39:51,679 --> 01:39:53,830
correlate? I don't understand.
Yeah, it's it's strange. So, yeah, I I

5140
01:39:53,830 --> 01:39:53,840
Yeah, it's it's strange. So, yeah, I I
 

5141
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:55,430
Yeah, it's it's strange. So, yeah, I I
was aware of all of that.

5142
01:39:55,430 --> 01:39:55,440
was aware of all of that.
 

5143
01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:57,109
was aware of all of that.
I will say this, you know, Lord Danny

5144
01:39:57,109 --> 01:39:57,119
I will say this, you know, Lord Danny
 

5145
01:39:57,119 --> 01:39:59,590
I will say this, you know, Lord Danny
and I are friends now and and Sysconic

5146
01:39:59,590 --> 01:39:59,600
and I are friends now and and Sysconic
 

5147
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,149
and I are friends now and and Sysconic
uh did apologize for everything and does

5148
01:40:02,149 --> 01:40:02,159
uh did apologize for everything and does
 

5149
01:40:02,159 --> 01:40:03,910
uh did apologize for everything and does
not stand by any of that behavior

5150
01:40:03,910 --> 01:40:03,920
not stand by any of that behavior
 

5151
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,310
not stand by any of that behavior
either. So those two, you know, I

5152
01:40:06,310 --> 01:40:06,320
either. So those two, you know, I
 

5153
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:08,070
either. So those two, you know, I
they're cool, you know. The other two

5154
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:08,080
they're cool, you know. The other two
 

5155
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:12,229
they're cool, you know. The other two
I'm not Well, they they brought up your

5156
01:40:12,229 --> 01:40:12,239
I'm not Well, they they brought up your
 

5157
01:40:12,239 --> 01:40:14,229
I'm not Well, they they brought up your
kid in association with a dildo. I too

5158
01:40:14,229 --> 01:40:14,239
kid in association with a dildo. I too
 

5159
01:40:14,239 --> 01:40:15,430
kid in association with a dildo. I too
also probably wouldn't be friends with

5160
01:40:15,430 --> 01:40:15,440
also probably wouldn't be friends with
 

5161
01:40:15,440 --> 01:40:19,830
also probably wouldn't be friends with
them either, to be fair. Yeah. Yep. So

5162
01:40:19,830 --> 01:40:19,840
them either, to be fair. Yeah. Yep. So
 

5163
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:23,310
them either, to be fair. Yeah. Yep. So
that was strange. Um, moving

5164
01:40:23,310 --> 01:40:23,320
that was strange. Um, moving
 

5165
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:26,470
that was strange. Um, moving
on. Let's talk about Yeah, let's talk

5166
01:40:26,470 --> 01:40:26,480
on. Let's talk about Yeah, let's talk
 

5167
01:40:26,480 --> 01:40:28,310
on. Let's talk about Yeah, let's talk
about uh Soul Rock. Let's get into the

5168
01:40:28,310 --> 01:40:28,320
about uh Soul Rock. Let's get into the
 

5169
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:30,790
about uh Soul Rock. Let's get into the
MLP side of things. Um, this was

5170
01:40:30,790 --> 01:40:30,800
MLP side of things. Um, this was
 

5171
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:33,189
MLP side of things. Um, this was
apparently something where people kind

5172
01:40:33,189 --> 01:40:33,199
apparently something where people kind
 

5173
01:40:33,199 --> 01:40:35,390
apparently something where people kind
of made speculations about your guys'

5174
01:40:35,390 --> 01:40:35,400
of made speculations about your guys'
 

5175
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:37,030
of made speculations about your guys'
relationship. People have been saying

5176
01:40:37,030 --> 01:40:37,040
relationship. People have been saying
 

5177
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:38,709
relationship. People have been saying
that you were trying to push your kid

5178
01:40:38,709 --> 01:40:38,719
that you were trying to push your kid
 

5179
01:40:38,719 --> 01:40:41,270
that you were trying to push your kid
onto him or something like that or like

5180
01:40:41,270 --> 01:40:41,280
onto him or something like that or like
 

5181
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:42,870
onto him or something like that or like
that's how cuz it was kind of public

5182
01:40:42,870 --> 01:40:42,880
that's how cuz it was kind of public
 

5183
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:44,470
that's how cuz it was kind of public
that your guys' relationship wasn't

5184
01:40:44,470 --> 01:40:44,480
that your guys' relationship wasn't
 

5185
01:40:44,480 --> 01:40:46,550
that your guys' relationship wasn't
good. And I think you can probably

5186
01:40:46,550 --> 01:40:46,560
good. And I think you can probably
 

5187
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,629
good. And I think you can probably
attest to that being true given that

5188
01:40:48,629 --> 01:40:48,639
attest to that being true given that
 

5189
01:40:48,639 --> 01:40:51,750
attest to that being true given that
your breakups were very public. Um, what

5190
01:40:51,750 --> 01:40:51,760
your breakups were very public. Um, what
 

5191
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:54,390
your breakups were very public. Um, what
is your whole deal with Soul Rock? Like

5192
01:40:54,390 --> 01:40:54,400
is your whole deal with Soul Rock? Like
 

5193
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:57,270
is your whole deal with Soul Rock? Like
what's your opinion of him? Like how

5194
01:40:57,270 --> 01:40:57,280
what's your opinion of him? Like how
 

5195
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,510
what's your opinion of him? Like how
what is your, you know, statement on

5196
01:40:59,510 --> 01:40:59,520
what is your, you know, statement on
 

5197
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:01,109
what is your, you know, statement on
your guys' relationship? I know this was

5198
01:41:01,109 --> 01:41:01,119
your guys' relationship? I know this was
 

5199
01:41:01,119 --> 01:41:03,109
your guys' relationship? I know this was
several years ago, so nobody cares. Like

5200
01:41:03,109 --> 01:41:03,119
several years ago, so nobody cares. Like
 

5201
01:41:03,119 --> 01:41:04,229
several years ago, so nobody cares. Like
it's nothing you need to talk about

5202
01:41:04,229 --> 01:41:04,239
it's nothing you need to talk about
 

5203
01:41:04,239 --> 01:41:05,510
it's nothing you need to talk about
because you're in a currently great

5204
01:41:05,510 --> 01:41:05,520
because you're in a currently great
 

5205
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,310
because you're in a currently great
relationship, but people have had

5206
01:41:08,310 --> 01:41:08,320
relationship, but people have had
 

5207
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:09,830
relationship, but people have had
comments to say about it. I just

5208
01:41:09,830 --> 01:41:09,840
comments to say about it. I just
 

5209
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:14,070
comments to say about it. I just
wondering, you know, what's that about?

5210
01:41:14,070 --> 01:41:14,080
wondering, you know, what's that about?
 

5211
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:17,830
wondering, you know, what's that about?
Yeah. So, so I guess in when it comes to

5212
01:41:17,830 --> 01:41:17,840
Yeah. So, so I guess in when it comes to
 

5213
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,470
Yeah. So, so I guess in when it comes to
the relationship at that time, um, yeah,

5214
01:41:20,470 --> 01:41:20,480
the relationship at that time, um, yeah,
 

5215
01:41:20,480 --> 01:41:23,669
the relationship at that time, um, yeah,
I would say it was not not really a a

5216
01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:23,679
I would say it was not not really a a
 

5217
01:41:23,679 --> 01:41:27,109
I would say it was not not really a a
terribly positive uh, relationship. I

5218
01:41:27,109 --> 01:41:27,119
terribly positive uh, relationship. I
 

5219
01:41:27,119 --> 01:41:28,950
terribly positive uh, relationship. I
I'm able to look back on some of the

5220
01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:28,960
I'm able to look back on some of the
 

5221
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:30,950
I'm able to look back on some of the
positive moments and I, you know, I'm

5222
01:41:30,950 --> 01:41:30,960
positive moments and I, you know, I'm
 

5223
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,189
positive moments and I, you know, I'm
happy for those moments. However, I

5224
01:41:33,189 --> 01:41:33,199
happy for those moments. However, I
 

5225
01:41:33,199 --> 01:41:34,910
happy for those moments. However, I
would say that it just

5226
01:41:34,910 --> 01:41:34,920
would say that it just
 

5227
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:37,350
would say that it just
wasn't it was toxic. I would agree with

5228
01:41:37,350 --> 01:41:37,360
wasn't it was toxic. I would agree with
 

5229
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:42,149
wasn't it was toxic. I would agree with
that because um he really did not wish

5230
01:41:42,149 --> 01:41:42,159
that because um he really did not wish
 

5231
01:41:42,159 --> 01:41:45,109
that because um he really did not wish
to be a stepparent but he still wanted

5232
01:41:45,109 --> 01:41:45,119
to be a stepparent but he still wanted
 

5233
01:41:45,119 --> 01:41:48,310
to be a stepparent but he still wanted
to be in a relationship with me and that

5234
01:41:48,310 --> 01:41:48,320
to be in a relationship with me and that
 

5235
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,629
to be in a relationship with me and that
was complicated because for me I was

5236
01:41:50,629 --> 01:41:50,639
was complicated because for me I was
 

5237
01:41:50,639 --> 01:41:53,510
was complicated because for me I was
still you know younger and I I felt okay

5238
01:41:53,510 --> 01:41:53,520
still you know younger and I I felt okay
 

5239
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:56,229
still you know younger and I I felt okay
well maybe this is just the reality as a

5240
01:41:56,229 --> 01:41:56,239
well maybe this is just the reality as a
 

5241
01:41:56,239 --> 01:41:58,709
well maybe this is just the reality as a
like a teen parent you know as a single

5242
01:41:58,709 --> 01:41:58,719
like a teen parent you know as a single
 

5243
01:41:58,719 --> 01:42:01,350
like a teen parent you know as a single
mother who's young maybe nobody's going

5244
01:42:01,350 --> 01:42:01,360
mother who's young maybe nobody's going
 

5245
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:03,590
mother who's young maybe nobody's going
to accept me you know for having a kid

5246
01:42:03,590 --> 01:42:03,600
to accept me you know for having a kid
 

5247
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:05,350
to accept me you know for having a kid
maybe this is just sort of the reality

5248
01:42:05,350 --> 01:42:05,360
maybe this is just sort of the reality
 

5249
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:09,030
maybe this is just sort of the reality
and I unfortunately let myself stay in a

5250
01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:09,040
and I unfortunately let myself stay in a
 

5251
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:12,950
and I unfortunately let myself stay in a
relationship with somebody who would say

5252
01:42:12,950 --> 01:42:12,960
relationship with somebody who would say
 

5253
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:14,790
relationship with somebody who would say
things like, you know, when I imagine us

5254
01:42:14,790 --> 01:42:14,800
things like, you know, when I imagine us
 

5255
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:16,790
things like, you know, when I imagine us
on dates, I don't imagine a stroller

5256
01:42:16,790 --> 01:42:16,800
on dates, I don't imagine a stroller
 

5257
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:19,510
on dates, I don't imagine a stroller
with us. And I would just kind of

5258
01:42:19,510 --> 01:42:19,520
with us. And I would just kind of
 

5259
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:21,270
with us. And I would just kind of
pretend that didn't hurt. And I would

5260
01:42:21,270 --> 01:42:21,280
pretend that didn't hurt. And I would
 

5261
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:22,870
pretend that didn't hurt. And I would
kind of try to like let it roll off

5262
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:22,880
kind of try to like let it roll off
 

5263
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:24,709
kind of try to like let it roll off
because I thought this was just normal.

5264
01:42:24,709 --> 01:42:24,719
because I thought this was just normal.
 

5265
01:42:24,719 --> 01:42:26,870
because I thought this was just normal.
I thought, well, I'm this is how it's

5266
01:42:26,870 --> 01:42:26,880
I thought, well, I'm this is how it's
 

5267
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:28,070
I thought, well, I'm this is how it's
going to be probably in any

5268
01:42:28,070 --> 01:42:28,080
going to be probably in any
 

5269
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:31,590
going to be probably in any
relationship, so whatever, you know? But

5270
01:42:31,590 --> 01:42:31,600
relationship, so whatever, you know? But
 

5271
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:33,830
relationship, so whatever, you know? But
then we were dating for so long and he

5272
01:42:33,830 --> 01:42:33,840
then we were dating for so long and he
 

5273
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:36,070
then we were dating for so long and he
was aware of my child since the

5274
01:42:36,070 --> 01:42:36,080
was aware of my child since the
 

5275
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,470
was aware of my child since the
beginning. And yeah, we broke up in a

5276
01:42:38,470 --> 01:42:38,480
beginning. And yeah, we broke up in a
 

5277
01:42:38,480 --> 01:42:40,229
beginning. And yeah, we broke up in a
way where it was just I don't want to do

5278
01:42:40,229 --> 01:42:40,239
way where it was just I don't want to do
 

5279
01:42:40,239 --> 01:42:43,510
way where it was just I don't want to do
this because I I ultimately I don't want

5280
01:42:43,510 --> 01:42:43,520
this because I I ultimately I don't want
 

5281
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,990
this because I I ultimately I don't want
to uh be a steparent and I don't I

5282
01:42:45,990 --> 01:42:46,000
to uh be a steparent and I don't I
 

5283
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:47,990
to uh be a steparent and I don't I
wouldn't put that on anybody, you know.

5284
01:42:47,990 --> 01:42:48,000
wouldn't put that on anybody, you know.
 

5285
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:51,109
wouldn't put that on anybody, you know.
However, I think it is strange to remain

5286
01:42:51,109 --> 01:42:51,119
However, I think it is strange to remain
 

5287
01:42:51,119 --> 01:42:52,950
However, I think it is strange to remain
in a relationship with somebody for so

5288
01:42:52,950 --> 01:42:52,960
in a relationship with somebody for so
 

5289
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,189
in a relationship with somebody for so
long if that is how you feel about that.

5290
01:42:55,189 --> 01:42:55,199
long if that is how you feel about that.
 

5291
01:42:55,199 --> 01:42:58,750
long if that is how you feel about that.
I think that there was sort of a desire

5292
01:42:58,750 --> 01:42:58,760
I think that there was sort of a desire
 

5293
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:02,390
I think that there was sort of a desire
for me to fix it. You know, I I think

5294
01:43:02,390 --> 01:43:02,400
for me to fix it. You know, I I think
 

5295
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,669
for me to fix it. You know, I I think
that he didn't really want me to just

5296
01:43:05,669 --> 01:43:05,679
that he didn't really want me to just
 

5297
01:43:05,679 --> 01:43:08,629
that he didn't really want me to just
keep my child and I was not really

5298
01:43:08,629 --> 01:43:08,639
keep my child and I was not really
 

5299
01:43:08,639 --> 01:43:10,950
keep my child and I was not really
obviously willing to push on that. And

5300
01:43:10,950 --> 01:43:10,960
obviously willing to push on that. And
 

5301
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:12,790
obviously willing to push on that. And
so eventually we broke up and it was

5302
01:43:12,790 --> 01:43:12,800
so eventually we broke up and it was
 

5303
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,350
so eventually we broke up and it was
just honestly I didn't have a very solid

5304
01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:15,360
just honestly I didn't have a very solid
 

5305
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:17,910
just honestly I didn't have a very solid
support system at home and because of

5306
01:43:17,910 --> 01:43:17,920
support system at home and because of
 

5307
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:20,390
support system at home and because of
that I was oversharing and we were both

5308
01:43:20,390 --> 01:43:20,400
that I was oversharing and we were both
 

5309
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:21,990
that I was oversharing and we were both
oversharing and talking about very

5310
01:43:21,990 --> 01:43:22,000
oversharing and talking about very
 

5311
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:25,350
oversharing and talking about very
personal things and uh we just had this

5312
01:43:25,350 --> 01:43:25,360
personal things and uh we just had this
 

5313
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,990
personal things and uh we just had this
very ugly breakup because of it you know

5314
01:43:27,990 --> 01:43:28,000
very ugly breakup because of it you know
 

5315
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:30,870
very ugly breakup because of it you know
like it sucks because you know they were

5316
01:43:30,870 --> 01:43:30,880
like it sucks because you know they were
 

5317
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:32,550
like it sucks because you know they were
positive things. We traveled the world

5318
01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:32,560
positive things. We traveled the world
 

5319
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:34,950
positive things. We traveled the world
together and there were good parts of

5320
01:43:34,950 --> 01:43:34,960
together and there were good parts of
 

5321
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,750
together and there were good parts of
it. But I think that we're both able to

5322
01:43:37,750 --> 01:43:37,760
it. But I think that we're both able to
 

5323
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:39,830
it. But I think that we're both able to
walk away from it just acknowledging

5324
01:43:39,830 --> 01:43:39,840
walk away from it just acknowledging
 

5325
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:42,070
walk away from it just acknowledging
that this just wasn't something good for

5326
01:43:42,070 --> 01:43:42,080
that this just wasn't something good for
 

5327
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:44,229
that this just wasn't something good for
each other. You know, if he doesn't want

5328
01:43:44,229 --> 01:43:44,239
each other. You know, if he doesn't want
 

5329
01:43:44,239 --> 01:43:46,870
each other. You know, if he doesn't want
kids, that's okay for him and for me. I

5330
01:43:46,870 --> 01:43:46,880
kids, that's okay for him and for me. I
 

5331
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,189
kids, that's okay for him and for me. I
deserve somebody who wants to have my

5332
01:43:49,189 --> 01:43:49,199
deserve somebody who wants to have my
 

5333
01:43:49,199 --> 01:43:51,510
deserve somebody who wants to have my
child with me who who loves me and my

5334
01:43:51,510 --> 01:43:51,520
child with me who who loves me and my
 

5335
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:54,629
child with me who who loves me and my
child. So, you know, no animosity

5336
01:43:54,629 --> 01:43:54,639
child. So, you know, no animosity
 

5337
01:43:54,639 --> 01:43:57,430
child. So, you know, no animosity
towards him. But yeah, it did obviously

5338
01:43:57,430 --> 01:43:57,440
towards him. But yeah, it did obviously
 

5339
01:43:57,440 --> 01:44:01,109
towards him. But yeah, it did obviously
end up very public and very uh ugly,

5340
01:44:01,109 --> 01:44:01,119
end up very public and very uh ugly,
 

5341
01:44:01,119 --> 01:44:02,390
end up very public and very uh ugly,
right? And I mean, there's certain

5342
01:44:02,390 --> 01:44:02,400
right? And I mean, there's certain
 

5343
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:04,070
right? And I mean, there's certain
stipulations in relationships where it's

5344
01:44:04,070 --> 01:44:04,080
stipulations in relationships where it's
 

5345
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,070
stipulations in relationships where it's
like things that are non-negotiable,

5346
01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:06,080
like things that are non-negotiable,
 

5347
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:08,550
like things that are non-negotiable,
right? If he doesn't want to have like

5348
01:44:08,550 --> 01:44:08,560
right? If he doesn't want to have like
 

5349
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:09,830
right? If he doesn't want to have like
be in a relationship where kids are

5350
01:44:09,830 --> 01:44:09,840
be in a relationship where kids are
 

5351
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:11,750
be in a relationship where kids are
already in the picture, don't date

5352
01:44:11,750 --> 01:44:11,760
already in the picture, don't date
 

5353
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:14,149
already in the picture, don't date
somebody that has a kid. Uh that's

5354
01:44:14,149 --> 01:44:14,159
somebody that has a kid. Uh that's
 

5355
01:44:14,159 --> 01:44:17,030
somebody that has a kid. Uh that's
pretty standard practice. Uh, and as for

5356
01:44:17,030 --> 01:44:17,040
pretty standard practice. Uh, and as for
 

5357
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:18,790
pretty standard practice. Uh, and as for
you, if someone's dating you, it's just

5358
01:44:18,790 --> 01:44:18,800
you, if someone's dating you, it's just
 

5359
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,030
you, if someone's dating you, it's just
like, I, you know, don't want your kid

5360
01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:21,040
like, I, you know, don't want your kid
 

5361
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:22,470
like, I, you know, don't want your kid
in the picture or whatever, you can be

5362
01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:22,480
in the picture or whatever, you can be
 

5363
01:44:22,480 --> 01:44:24,629
in the picture or whatever, you can be
like, well, I can't just make her go

5364
01:44:24,629 --> 01:44:24,639
like, well, I can't just make her go
 

5365
01:44:24,639 --> 01:44:27,990
like, well, I can't just make her go
away. She's already here. Like, I'm not

5366
01:44:27,990 --> 01:44:28,000
away. She's already here. Like, I'm not
 

5367
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:29,669
away. She's already here. Like, I'm not
going to choose you over this kid.

5368
01:44:29,669 --> 01:44:29,679
going to choose you over this kid.
 

5369
01:44:29,679 --> 01:44:33,430
going to choose you over this kid.
Sorry. Like, yeah, we were both kind of

5370
01:44:33,430 --> 01:44:33,440
Sorry. Like, yeah, we were both kind of
 

5371
01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:36,149
Sorry. Like, yeah, we were both kind of
a part of that toxicity because I just

5372
01:44:36,149 --> 01:44:36,159
a part of that toxicity because I just
 

5373
01:44:36,159 --> 01:44:39,430
a part of that toxicity because I just
kind of again, I I thought that it was

5374
01:44:39,430 --> 01:44:39,440
kind of again, I I thought that it was
 

5375
01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:41,510
kind of again, I I thought that it was
normal. I thought, well, no one else is

5376
01:44:41,510 --> 01:44:41,520
normal. I thought, well, no one else is
 

5377
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:43,669
normal. I thought, well, no one else is
going to accept me, so I guess this is

5378
01:44:43,669 --> 01:44:43,679
going to accept me, so I guess this is
 

5379
01:44:43,679 --> 01:44:45,910
going to accept me, so I guess this is
just what it is. And I I hate it because

5380
01:44:45,910 --> 01:44:45,920
just what it is. And I I hate it because
 

5381
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:47,510
just what it is. And I I hate it because
I look back on it like God, why didn't

5382
01:44:47,510 --> 01:44:47,520
I look back on it like God, why didn't
 

5383
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:49,109
I look back on it like God, why didn't
you just leave at that point? Just

5384
01:44:49,109 --> 01:44:49,119
you just leave at that point? Just
 

5385
01:44:49,119 --> 01:44:51,109
you just leave at that point? Just
leave. If if he doesn't want if he

5386
01:44:51,109 --> 01:44:51,119
leave. If if he doesn't want if he
 

5387
01:44:51,119 --> 01:44:52,709
leave. If if he doesn't want if he
doesn't want if he doesn't love my

5388
01:44:52,709 --> 01:44:52,719
doesn't want if he doesn't love my
 

5389
01:44:52,719 --> 01:44:54,950
doesn't want if he doesn't love my
child, then I need to leave, you know?

5390
01:44:54,950 --> 01:44:54,960
child, then I need to leave, you know?
 

5391
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:57,109
child, then I need to leave, you know?
Right. It was just it was a good lesson

5392
01:44:57,109 --> 01:44:57,119
Right. It was just it was a good lesson
 

5393
01:44:57,119 --> 01:44:59,830
Right. It was just it was a good lesson
though. That's Yeah.

5394
01:44:59,830 --> 01:44:59,840
though. That's Yeah.
 

5395
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:01,669
though. That's Yeah.
You know, you want to be, you know,

5396
01:45:01,669 --> 01:45:01,679
You know, you want to be, you know,
 

5397
01:45:01,679 --> 01:45:03,350
You know, you want to be, you know,
something more than just a mother. So,

5398
01:45:03,350 --> 01:45:03,360
something more than just a mother. So,
 

5399
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:05,990
something more than just a mother. So,
you're in a relationship where he treats

5400
01:45:05,990 --> 01:45:06,000
you're in a relationship where he treats
 

5401
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:07,430
you're in a relationship where he treats
you right and you're just like, "Oh,

5402
01:45:07,430 --> 01:45:07,440
you right and you're just like, "Oh,
 

5403
01:45:07,440 --> 01:45:08,870
you right and you're just like, "Oh,
this is really nice. This is something

5404
01:45:08,870 --> 01:45:08,880
this is really nice. This is something
 

5405
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:12,470
this is really nice. This is something
for me." And it's not but you know the

5406
01:45:12,470 --> 01:45:12,480
for me." And it's not but you know the
 

5407
01:45:12,480 --> 01:45:14,149
for me." And it's not but you know the
thing is if there's a dealbreaker in a

5408
01:45:14,149 --> 01:45:14,159
thing is if there's a dealbreaker in a
 

5409
01:45:14,159 --> 01:45:15,590
thing is if there's a dealbreaker in a
relationship just accept that that dealb

5410
01:45:15,590 --> 01:45:15,600
relationship just accept that that dealb
 

5411
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,910
relationship just accept that that dealb
breaker's there and move on you know

5412
01:45:17,910 --> 01:45:17,920
breaker's there and move on you know
 

5413
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:19,510
breaker's there and move on you know
kind of thing and I get that like you

5414
01:45:19,510 --> 01:45:19,520
kind of thing and I get that like you
 

5415
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,030
kind of thing and I get that like you
want to be your own person with your own

5416
01:45:21,030 --> 01:45:21,040
want to be your own person with your own
 

5417
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:22,870
want to be your own person with your own
relationship that's not attached to your

5418
01:45:22,870 --> 01:45:22,880
relationship that's not attached to your
 

5419
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:25,030
relationship that's not attached to your
daughter but you know a daughter your

5420
01:45:25,030 --> 01:45:25,040
daughter but you know a daughter your
 

5421
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,590
daughter but you know a daughter your
daughter's a big part of you you know

5422
01:45:27,590 --> 01:45:27,600
daughter's a big part of you you know
 

5423
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:29,669
daughter's a big part of you you know
and people have got to accept that part

5424
01:45:29,669 --> 01:45:29,679
and people have got to accept that part
 

5425
01:45:29,679 --> 01:45:31,669
and people have got to accept that part
of you like yeah not that you guys are

5426
01:45:31,669 --> 01:45:31,679
of you like yeah not that you guys are
 

5427
01:45:31,679 --> 01:45:33,590
of you like yeah not that you guys are
like a sold package together like you

5428
01:45:33,590 --> 01:45:33,600
like a sold package together like you
 

5429
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,390
like a sold package together like you
have to like you know but it's like you

5430
01:45:36,390 --> 01:45:36,400
have to like you know but it's like you
 

5431
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:37,910
have to like you know but it's like you
have to at least accept that she's not

5432
01:45:37,910 --> 01:45:37,920
have to at least accept that she's not
 

5433
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,070
have to at least accept that she's not
going anywhere. her like I'm not she's

5434
01:45:40,070 --> 01:45:40,080
going anywhere. her like I'm not she's
 

5435
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:43,270
going anywhere. her like I'm not she's
here like yes either deal with it or

5436
01:45:43,270 --> 01:45:43,280
here like yes either deal with it or
 

5437
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:46,310
here like yes either deal with it or
don't you know but I would yeah but I

5438
01:45:46,310 --> 01:45:46,320
don't you know but I would yeah but I
 

5439
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:48,629
don't you know but I would yeah but I
would even say you know I I want

5440
01:45:48,629 --> 01:45:48,639
would even say you know I I want
 

5441
01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:51,030
would even say you know I I want
somebody who loves my child too you know

5442
01:45:51,030 --> 01:45:51,040
somebody who loves my child too you know
 

5443
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:52,790
somebody who loves my child too you know
and luckily I have that now I do have

5444
01:45:52,790 --> 01:45:52,800
and luckily I have that now I do have
 

5445
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:55,430
and luckily I have that now I do have
somebody who loves me and my child you

5446
01:45:55,430 --> 01:45:55,440
somebody who loves me and my child you
 

5447
01:45:55,440 --> 01:45:58,390
somebody who loves me and my child you
know and I'm very very lucky for that a

5448
01:45:58,390 --> 01:45:58,400
know and I'm very very lucky for that a
 

5449
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:00,629
know and I'm very very lucky for that a
that's sweet I'm I'm very happy for you

5450
01:46:00,629 --> 01:46:00,639
that's sweet I'm I'm very happy for you
 

5451
01:46:00,639 --> 01:46:04,229
that's sweet I'm I'm very happy for you
for that cuz I'm not a parent you know I

5452
01:46:04,229 --> 01:46:04,239
for that cuz I'm not a parent you know I
 

5453
01:46:04,239 --> 01:46:06,870
for that cuz I'm not a parent you know I
have never had kids when very young

5454
01:46:06,870 --> 01:46:06,880
have never had kids when very young
 

5455
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:09,030
have never had kids when very young
that's really scary but

5456
01:46:09,030 --> 01:46:09,040
that's really scary but
 

5457
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:10,950
that's really scary but
I imagine if I were going to be a

5458
01:46:10,950 --> 01:46:10,960
I imagine if I were going to be a
 

5459
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:13,270
I imagine if I were going to be a
parent, you know, I would want my people

5460
01:46:13,270 --> 01:46:13,280
parent, you know, I would want my people
 

5461
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:16,229
parent, you know, I would want my people
around me to also equally like my kid,

5462
01:46:16,229 --> 01:46:16,239
around me to also equally like my kid,
 

5463
01:46:16,239 --> 01:46:17,830
around me to also equally like my kid,
you know, like if I had like this friend

5464
01:46:17,830 --> 01:46:17,840
you know, like if I had like this friend
 

5465
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:18,950
you know, like if I had like this friend
who would like, "Oh, your kid's [\h__\h]

5466
01:46:18,950 --> 01:46:18,960
who would like, "Oh, your kid's [\h__\h]
 

5467
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:20,709
who would like, "Oh, your kid's [\h__\h]
annoying." I'd just be like, "Then get

5468
01:46:20,709 --> 01:46:20,719
annoying." I'd just be like, "Then get
 

5469
01:46:20,719 --> 01:46:22,870
annoying." I'd just be like, "Then get
the [\h__\h] away from me. Like, I can't

5470
01:46:22,870 --> 01:46:22,880
the [\h__\h] away from me. Like, I can't
 

5471
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:25,270
the [\h__\h] away from me. Like, I can't
make her go away." Like, I don't know

5472
01:46:25,270 --> 01:46:25,280
make her go away." Like, I don't know
 

5473
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:26,709
make her go away." Like, I don't know
what you want me to do. I'm sorry. My

5474
01:46:26,709 --> 01:46:26,719
what you want me to do. I'm sorry. My
 

5475
01:46:26,719 --> 01:46:29,590
what you want me to do. I'm sorry. My
kid's annoying.

5476
01:46:29,590 --> 01:46:29,600
kid's annoying.
 

5477
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,149
kid's annoying.
Yeah. Exactly. You know, I Yeah.

5478
01:46:32,149 --> 01:46:32,159
Yeah. Exactly. You know, I Yeah.
 

5479
01:46:32,159 --> 01:46:35,350
Yeah. Exactly. You know, I Yeah.
Exactly. Yeah. I mean, I understand now

5480
01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:35,360
Exactly. Yeah. I mean, I understand now
 

5481
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:36,870
Exactly. Yeah. I mean, I understand now
these tweet there's a couple of tweets

5482
01:46:36,870 --> 01:46:36,880
these tweet there's a couple of tweets
 

5483
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,910
these tweet there's a couple of tweets
that were um archived on a Gossip Stark

5484
01:46:39,910 --> 01:46:39,920
that were um archived on a Gossip Stark
 

5485
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:41,510
that were um archived on a Gossip Stark
that that most of this was archived on

5486
01:46:41,510 --> 01:46:41,520
that that most of this was archived on
 

5487
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:43,750
that that most of this was archived on
from horse.org. Uh rest in peace because

5488
01:46:43,750 --> 01:46:43,760
from horse.org. Uh rest in peace because
 

5489
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:45,990
from horse.org. Uh rest in peace because
it doesn't exist anymore. But uh a lot

5490
01:46:45,990 --> 01:46:46,000
it doesn't exist anymore. But uh a lot
 

5491
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,550
it doesn't exist anymore. But uh a lot
of these were you're saying like oh two

5492
01:46:48,550 --> 01:46:48,560
of these were you're saying like oh two
 

5493
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:50,390
of these were you're saying like oh two
years later and now you decide not to be

5494
01:46:50,390 --> 01:46:50,400
years later and now you decide not to be
 

5495
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:51,669
years later and now you decide not to be
a step parent. Like I understand that

5496
01:46:51,669 --> 01:46:51,679
a step parent. Like I understand that
 

5497
01:46:51,679 --> 01:46:54,470
a step parent. Like I understand that
frustration cuz it's like you knew that

5498
01:46:54,470 --> 01:46:54,480
frustration cuz it's like you knew that
 

5499
01:46:54,480 --> 01:46:57,189
frustration cuz it's like you knew that
the kid's here the whole time. Like if

5500
01:46:57,189 --> 01:46:57,199
the kid's here the whole time. Like if
 

5501
01:46:57,199 --> 01:46:58,790
the kid's here the whole time. Like if
you if that was a dealbreaker for you

5502
01:46:58,790 --> 01:46:58,800
you if that was a dealbreaker for you
 

5503
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:00,390
you if that was a dealbreaker for you
where you're just like I don't want this

5504
01:47:00,390 --> 01:47:00,400
where you're just like I don't want this
 

5505
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:01,830
where you're just like I don't want this
kid around. You should have thought

5506
01:47:01,830 --> 01:47:01,840
kid around. You should have thought
 

5507
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:03,510
kid around. You should have thought
about that two years ago because I It's

5508
01:47:03,510 --> 01:47:03,520
about that two years ago because I It's
 

5509
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:05,109
about that two years ago because I It's
not like I was hiding that from you for

5510
01:47:05,109 --> 01:47:05,119
not like I was hiding that from you for
 

5511
01:47:05,119 --> 01:47:08,390
not like I was hiding that from you for
two years. It's been here like Yep. It's

5512
01:47:08,390 --> 01:47:08,400
two years. It's been here like Yep. It's
 

5513
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:10,229
two years. It's been here like Yep. It's
Yes, exactly. I've been completely

5514
01:47:10,229 --> 01:47:10,239
Yes, exactly. I've been completely
 

5515
01:47:10,239 --> 01:47:12,709
Yes, exactly. I've been completely
upfront literally since the start of the

5516
01:47:12,709 --> 01:47:12,719
upfront literally since the start of the
 

5517
01:47:12,719 --> 01:47:15,990
upfront literally since the start of the
relationship, right? Seems it seems a

5518
01:47:15,990 --> 01:47:16,000
relationship, right? Seems it seems a
 

5519
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:17,270
relationship, right? Seems it seems a
little strained to like just be like,

5520
01:47:17,270 --> 01:47:17,280
little strained to like just be like,
 

5521
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:18,870
little strained to like just be like,
I'll date her, but I'll just pretend the

5522
01:47:18,870 --> 01:47:18,880
I'll date her, but I'll just pretend the
 

5523
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:20,870
I'll date her, but I'll just pretend the
kid doesn't exist. Like it's that's a

5524
01:47:20,870 --> 01:47:20,880
kid doesn't exist. Like it's that's a
 

5525
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:24,149
kid doesn't exist. Like it's that's a
little hard to do. Yeah. It's just not

5526
01:47:24,149 --> 01:47:24,159
little hard to do. Yeah. It's just not
 

5527
01:47:24,159 --> 01:47:25,990
little hard to do. Yeah. It's just not
It just wasn't good for both of us. And

5528
01:47:25,990 --> 01:47:26,000
It just wasn't good for both of us. And
 

5529
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:27,750
It just wasn't good for both of us. And
I think neither of us knew how to really

5530
01:47:27,750 --> 01:47:27,760
I think neither of us knew how to really
 

5531
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:30,790
I think neither of us knew how to really
handle it, you know? Um, again, I really

5532
01:47:30,790 --> 01:47:30,800
handle it, you know? Um, again, I really
 

5533
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:32,870
handle it, you know? Um, again, I really
wish we both weren't oversharing. Like,

5534
01:47:32,870 --> 01:47:32,880
wish we both weren't oversharing. Like,
 

5535
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:34,950
wish we both weren't oversharing. Like,
holy [\h__\h] I look back on that like, god

5536
01:47:34,950 --> 01:47:34,960
holy [\h__\h] I look back on that like, god
 

5537
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:36,950
holy [\h__\h] I look back on that like, god
damn it, that's cringey as hell. Why was

5538
01:47:36,950 --> 01:47:36,960
damn it, that's cringey as hell. Why was
 

5539
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,510
damn it, that's cringey as hell. Why was
I why was I oversharing so much, you

5540
01:47:39,510 --> 01:47:39,520
I why was I oversharing so much, you
 

5541
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:43,590
I why was I oversharing so much, you
know? So, lessons lessons to be learned.

5542
01:47:43,590 --> 01:47:43,600
know? So, lessons lessons to be learned.
 

5543
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:46,149
know? So, lessons lessons to be learned.
Do not tell social media everything,

5544
01:47:46,149 --> 01:47:46,159
Do not tell social media everything,
 

5545
01:47:46,159 --> 01:47:48,390
Do not tell social media everything,
right? Any ill feelings towards Solar in

5546
01:47:48,390 --> 01:47:48,400
right? Any ill feelings towards Solar in
 

5547
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:51,470
right? Any ill feelings towards Solar in
current day or you just have no rel like

5548
01:47:51,470 --> 01:47:51,480
current day or you just have no rel like
 

5549
01:47:51,480 --> 01:47:53,990
current day or you just have no rel like
just blank slate with him like he's

5550
01:47:53,990 --> 01:47:54,000
just blank slate with him like he's
 

5551
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,790
just blank slate with him like he's
doing whatever, you know?

5552
01:47:56,790 --> 01:47:56,800
doing whatever, you know?
 

5553
01:47:56,800 --> 01:48:00,310
doing whatever, you know?
You know, I don't know. I mean, it's a

5554
01:48:00,310 --> 01:48:00,320
You know, I don't know. I mean, it's a
 

5555
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:02,950
You know, I don't know. I mean, it's a
thing where we attempted to be friends

5556
01:48:02,950 --> 01:48:02,960
thing where we attempted to be friends
 

5557
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,189
thing where we attempted to be friends
at one point, but ultimately it just it

5558
01:48:05,189 --> 01:48:05,199
at one point, but ultimately it just it
 

5559
01:48:05,199 --> 01:48:07,750
at one point, but ultimately it just it
just didn't work out. And I'm I have no

5560
01:48:07,750 --> 01:48:07,760
just didn't work out. And I'm I have no
 

5561
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:09,830
just didn't work out. And I'm I have no
ill feelings towards him. You know, he

5562
01:48:09,830 --> 01:48:09,840
ill feelings towards him. You know, he
 

5563
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:11,510
ill feelings towards him. You know, he
the way that things have been, it hasn't

5564
01:48:11,510 --> 01:48:11,520
the way that things have been, it hasn't
 

5565
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,149
the way that things have been, it hasn't
been great, but I got nothing against

5566
01:48:14,149 --> 01:48:14,159
been great, but I got nothing against
 

5567
01:48:14,159 --> 01:48:16,709
been great, but I got nothing against
him. You know, the other way around a

5568
01:48:16,709 --> 01:48:16,719
him. You know, the other way around a
 

5569
01:48:16,719 --> 01:48:18,229
him. You know, the other way around a
little different, but I'm not really

5570
01:48:18,229 --> 01:48:18,239
little different, but I'm not really
 

5571
01:48:18,239 --> 01:48:20,709
little different, but I'm not really
going to speak on that. Sure. Okay. So,

5572
01:48:20,709 --> 01:48:20,719
going to speak on that. Sure. Okay. So,
 

5573
01:48:20,719 --> 01:48:22,390
going to speak on that. Sure. Okay. So,
you know, his opinion might be

5574
01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:22,400
you know, his opinion might be
 

5575
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:25,270
you know, his opinion might be
different, but nobody wishes no ill will

5576
01:48:25,270 --> 01:48:25,280
different, but nobody wishes no ill will
 

5577
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:27,669
different, but nobody wishes no ill will
on anybody.

5578
01:48:27,669 --> 01:48:27,679
on anybody.
 

5579
01:48:27,679 --> 01:48:31,189
on anybody.
Yeah. Right. All right. So, let's talk

5580
01:48:31,189 --> 01:48:31,199
Yeah. Right. All right. So, let's talk
 

5581
01:48:31,199 --> 01:48:32,790
Yeah. Right. All right. So, let's talk
about my favorite thing. And by

5582
01:48:32,790 --> 01:48:32,800
about my favorite thing. And by
 

5583
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:35,270
about my favorite thing. And by
favorite, I mean weirdest thing in this

5584
01:48:35,270 --> 01:48:35,280
favorite, I mean weirdest thing in this
 

5585
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:38,189
favorite, I mean weirdest thing in this
list. Let's talk about Stephen

5586
01:48:38,189 --> 01:48:38,199
list. Let's talk about Stephen
 

5587
01:48:38,199 --> 01:48:41,750
list. Let's talk about Stephen
Sers. So,

5588
01:48:41,750 --> 01:48:41,760
Sers. So,
 

5589
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:43,750
Sers. So,
I knew as soon as you said that, like,

5590
01:48:43,750 --> 01:48:43,760
I knew as soon as you said that, like,
 

5591
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:45,189
I knew as soon as you said that, like,
oh, here I go. This is the only reason

5592
01:48:45,189 --> 01:48:45,199
oh, here I go. This is the only reason
 

5593
01:48:45,199 --> 01:48:46,390
oh, here I go. This is the only reason
this is my favorite thing is because

5594
01:48:46,390 --> 01:48:46,400
this is my favorite thing is because
 

5595
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:47,990
this is my favorite thing is because
when you explained this to me like in

5596
01:48:47,990 --> 01:48:48,000
when you explained this to me like in
 

5597
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:50,229
when you explained this to me like in
the first call we've had I busted out

5598
01:48:50,229 --> 01:48:50,239
the first call we've had I busted out
 

5599
01:48:50,239 --> 01:48:51,910
the first call we've had I busted out
laughing because I'm like wait is this

5600
01:48:51,910 --> 01:48:51,920
laughing because I'm like wait is this
 

5601
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:54,629
laughing because I'm like wait is this
actually how this is. This is crazy. So

5602
01:48:54,629 --> 01:48:54,639
actually how this is. This is crazy. So
 

5603
01:48:54,639 --> 01:48:56,550
actually how this is. This is crazy. So
let's talk about that now in recorded

5604
01:48:56,550 --> 01:48:56,560
let's talk about that now in recorded
 

5605
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,669
let's talk about that now in recorded
format. My favorite thing Steven Sers

5606
01:48:59,669 --> 01:48:59,679
format. My favorite thing Steven Sers
 

5607
01:48:59,679 --> 01:49:01,910
format. My favorite thing Steven Sers
apparently was some dude who worked at

5608
01:49:01,910 --> 01:49:01,920
apparently was some dude who worked at
 

5609
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:03,510
apparently was some dude who worked at
um Sierra Entertainment the publishers

5610
01:49:03,510 --> 01:49:03,520
um Sierra Entertainment the publishers
 

5611
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:06,470
um Sierra Entertainment the publishers
of Halflife Team Fortress Classic Spyro

5612
01:49:06,470 --> 01:49:06,480
of Halflife Team Fortress Classic Spyro
 

5613
01:49:06,480 --> 01:49:10,310
of Halflife Team Fortress Classic Spyro
and Crash Bandicoot. In 2009, Steven

5614
01:49:10,310 --> 01:49:10,320
and Crash Bandicoot. In 2009, Steven
 

5615
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:13,590
and Crash Bandicoot. In 2009, Steven
Sers was contacted by somebody and did

5616
01:49:13,590 --> 01:49:13,600
Sers was contacted by somebody and did
 

5617
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:15,669
Sers was contacted by somebody and did
this sort of interview. Well, in I say

5618
01:49:15,669 --> 01:49:15,679
this sort of interview. Well, in I say
 

5619
01:49:15,679 --> 01:49:17,510
this sort of interview. Well, in I say
in 2009, he's talking about an incident

5620
01:49:17,510 --> 01:49:17,520
in 2009, he's talking about an incident
 

5621
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:19,270
in 2009, he's talking about an incident
in 2009. He was actually contacted. I

5622
01:49:19,270 --> 01:49:19,280
in 2009. He was actually contacted. I
 

5623
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:20,550
in 2009. He was actually contacted. I
don't even know when this was, but

5624
01:49:20,550 --> 01:49:20,560
don't even know when this was, but
 

5625
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:22,149
don't even know when this was, but
somebody reached out to him and did some

5626
01:49:22,149 --> 01:49:22,159
somebody reached out to him and did some
 

5627
01:49:22,159 --> 01:49:23,750
somebody reached out to him and did some
sort of like text interview, and this

5628
01:49:23,750 --> 01:49:23,760
sort of like text interview, and this
 

5629
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:25,669
sort of like text interview, and this
ended up on the internet of him

5630
01:49:25,669 --> 01:49:25,679
ended up on the internet of him
 

5631
01:49:25,679 --> 01:49:28,790
ended up on the internet of him
apparently saying in 2009, you tried to

5632
01:49:28,790 --> 01:49:28,800
apparently saying in 2009, you tried to
 

5633
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:30,390
apparently saying in 2009, you tried to
reach out to him claiming to be a

5634
01:49:30,390 --> 01:49:30,400
reach out to him claiming to be a
 

5635
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:32,470
reach out to him claiming to be a
21-year-old who wants to drink and have

5636
01:49:32,470 --> 01:49:32,480
21-year-old who wants to drink and have
 

5637
01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:34,709
21-year-old who wants to drink and have
sex and party and whatever with him in

5638
01:49:34,709 --> 01:49:34,719
sex and party and whatever with him in
 

5639
01:49:34,719 --> 01:49:36,709
sex and party and whatever with him in
order to get up in the ranks of Sierra

5640
01:49:36,709 --> 01:49:36,719
order to get up in the ranks of Sierra
 

5641
01:49:36,719 --> 01:49:38,870
order to get up in the ranks of Sierra
Entertainment.

5642
01:49:38,870 --> 01:49:38,880
Entertainment.
 

5643
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:42,470
Entertainment.
Um, yeah. Apparently, apparently. Why

5644
01:49:42,470 --> 01:49:42,480
Um, yeah. Apparently, apparently. Why
 

5645
01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:44,470
Um, yeah. Apparently, apparently. Why
don't you tell me about this Steven guy?

5646
01:49:44,470 --> 01:49:44,480
don't you tell me about this Steven guy?
 

5647
01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:48,709
don't you tell me about this Steven guy?
Who is this Steven guy to you? Okay.

5648
01:49:48,709 --> 01:49:48,719
Who is this Steven guy to you? Okay.
 

5649
01:49:48,719 --> 01:49:52,790
Who is this Steven guy to you? Okay.
A stranger. This is a stranger online. I

5650
01:49:52,790 --> 01:49:52,800
A stranger. This is a stranger online. I
 

5651
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,270
A stranger. This is a stranger online. I
don't know who the hell this guy is,

5652
01:49:55,270 --> 01:49:55,280
don't know who the hell this guy is,
 

5653
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:57,430
don't know who the hell this guy is,
apart from what I have now looked up

5654
01:49:57,430 --> 01:49:57,440
apart from what I have now looked up
 

5655
01:49:57,440 --> 01:49:59,590
apart from what I have now looked up
about him since seeing these

5656
01:49:59,590 --> 01:49:59,600
about him since seeing these
 

5657
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:01,430
about him since seeing these
screenshots.

5658
01:50:01,430 --> 01:50:01,440
screenshots.
 

5659
01:50:01,440 --> 01:50:04,470
screenshots.
This I don't know who this guy is. After

5660
01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:04,480
This I don't know who this guy is. After
 

5661
01:50:04,480 --> 01:50:07,030
This I don't know who this guy is. After
Lizzy showed me these screenshots, no

5662
01:50:07,030 --> 01:50:07,040
Lizzy showed me these screenshots, no
 

5663
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:09,430
Lizzy showed me these screenshots, no
idea. Like after Lizzie showed me these

5664
01:50:09,430 --> 01:50:09,440
idea. Like after Lizzie showed me these
 

5665
01:50:09,440 --> 01:50:12,870
idea. Like after Lizzie showed me these
screenshots, I then started to look up

5666
01:50:12,870 --> 01:50:12,880
screenshots, I then started to look up
 

5667
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:14,950
screenshots, I then started to look up
who the hell this guy was because I'm

5668
01:50:14,950 --> 01:50:14,960
who the hell this guy was because I'm
 

5669
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:17,030
who the hell this guy was because I'm
like, who is this? And I looked up,

5670
01:50:17,030 --> 01:50:17,040
like, who is this? And I looked up,
 

5671
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:20,310
like, who is this? And I looked up,
okay, what's Sierra Games? And I I I've

5672
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:20,320
okay, what's Sierra Games? And I I I've
 

5673
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:22,790
okay, what's Sierra Games? And I I I've
never spoken to this guy in my life.

5674
01:50:22,790 --> 01:50:22,800
never spoken to this guy in my life.
 

5675
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:26,629
never spoken to this guy in my life.
What's crazy is he's talking about 2009

5676
01:50:26,629 --> 01:50:26,639
What's crazy is he's talking about 2009
 

5677
01:50:26,639 --> 01:50:29,990
What's crazy is he's talking about 2009
and I'm like 14 at this point, you know?

5678
01:50:29,990 --> 01:50:30,000
and I'm like 14 at this point, you know?
 

5679
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,669
and I'm like 14 at this point, you know?
I'm like, you said 2009. like I'm I'm

5680
01:50:33,669 --> 01:50:33,679
I'm like, you said 2009. like I'm I'm
 

5681
01:50:33,679 --> 01:50:35,750
I'm like, you said 2009. like I'm I'm
just now becoming a freshman in high

5682
01:50:35,750 --> 01:50:35,760
just now becoming a freshman in high
 

5683
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:37,350
just now becoming a freshman in high
school.

5684
01:50:37,350 --> 01:50:37,360
school.
 

5685
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:39,669
school.
Yeah. To which he, if I remember

5686
01:50:39,669 --> 01:50:39,679
Yeah. To which he, if I remember
 

5687
01:50:39,679 --> 01:50:41,990
Yeah. To which he, if I remember
correctly, he even states that all of

5688
01:50:41,990 --> 01:50:42,000
correctly, he even states that all of
 

5689
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,070
correctly, he even states that all of
this happened on Snapchat. Am I right on

5690
01:50:44,070 --> 01:50:44,080
this happened on Snapchat. Am I right on
 

5691
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:46,629
this happened on Snapchat. Am I right on
that? Uh, yes. So, in one of the

5692
01:50:46,629 --> 01:50:46,639
that? Uh, yes. So, in one of the
 

5693
01:50:46,639 --> 01:50:48,510
that? Uh, yes. So, in one of the
screenshots, if I can find it real

5694
01:50:48,510 --> 01:50:48,520
screenshots, if I can find it real
 

5695
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:51,550
screenshots, if I can find it real
quick.

5696
01:50:51,550 --> 01:50:51,560

 

5697
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:53,669

Uh, I don't know if I'll be able to find

5698
01:50:53,669 --> 01:50:53,679
Uh, I don't know if I'll be able to find
 

5699
01:50:53,679 --> 01:50:59,030
Uh, I don't know if I'll be able to find
it. Yeah, 2008 is when he was um working

5700
01:50:59,030 --> 01:50:59,040
it. Yeah, 2008 is when he was um working
 

5701
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:01,830
it. Yeah, 2008 is when he was um working
at Activision Blizzard. Um, he met Emily

5702
01:51:01,830 --> 01:51:01,840
at Activision Blizzard. Um, he met Emily
 

5703
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:04,470
at Activision Blizzard. Um, he met Emily
around 2013 or so. So, I guess it wasn't

5704
01:51:04,470 --> 01:51:04,480
around 2013 or so. So, I guess it wasn't
 

5705
01:51:04,480 --> 01:51:06,629
around 2013 or so. So, I guess it wasn't
back in 2009. In 2009, I think he's

5706
01:51:06,629 --> 01:51:06,639
back in 2009. In 2009, I think he's
 

5707
01:51:06,639 --> 01:51:11,109
back in 2009. In 2009, I think he's
talking about how he used to work um at

5708
01:51:11,109 --> 01:51:11,119
talking about how he used to work um at
 

5709
01:51:11,119 --> 01:51:13,510
talking about how he used to work um at
Sierra Entertainment. Uh, 2009, he was

5710
01:51:13,510 --> 01:51:13,520
Sierra Entertainment. Uh, 2009, he was
 

5711
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:15,189
Sierra Entertainment. Uh, 2009, he was
only working there, I think, on the SWAT

5712
01:51:15,189 --> 01:51:15,199
only working there, I think, on the SWAT
 

5713
01:51:15,199 --> 01:51:16,790
only working there, I think, on the SWAT
series. So, that's what might be what

5714
01:51:16,790 --> 01:51:16,800
series. So, that's what might be what
 

5715
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:18,470
series. So, that's what might be what
he's talking about. He's claiming to

5716
01:51:18,470 --> 01:51:18,480
he's talking about. He's claiming to
 

5717
01:51:18,480 --> 01:51:20,270
he's talking about. He's claiming to
have met you in

5718
01:51:20,270 --> 01:51:20,280
have met you in
 

5719
01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:25,910
have met you in
2013. So, that's what that's

5720
01:51:25,910 --> 01:51:25,920
2013. So, that's what that's
 

5721
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:27,430
2013. So, that's what that's
okay.

5722
01:51:27,430 --> 01:51:27,440
okay.
 

5723
01:51:27,440 --> 01:51:29,669
okay.
So, I'm sorry if that was confusing.

5724
01:51:29,669 --> 01:51:29,679
So, I'm sorry if that was confusing.
 

5725
01:51:29,679 --> 01:51:31,830
So, I'm sorry if that was confusing.
I thought so too. He's saying in one of

5726
01:51:31,830 --> 01:51:31,840
I thought so too. He's saying in one of
 

5727
01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:34,790
I thought so too. He's saying in one of
these text messages he left in 2008 but

5728
01:51:34,790 --> 01:51:34,800
these text messages he left in 2008 but
 

5729
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:37,990
these text messages he left in 2008 but
still managed uh Activision like when

5730
01:51:37,990 --> 01:51:38,000
still managed uh Activision like when
 

5731
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:39,589
still managed uh Activision like when
Sierra Entertainment like merged with

5732
01:51:39,589 --> 01:51:39,599
Sierra Entertainment like merged with
 

5733
01:51:39,599 --> 01:51:41,350
Sierra Entertainment like merged with
Activision and Blizzard. So he said he

5734
01:51:41,350 --> 01:51:41,360
Activision and Blizzard. So he said he
 

5735
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:45,109
Activision and Blizzard. So he said he
met you around 2013 or so. Um okay. So

5736
01:51:45,109 --> 01:51:45,119
met you around 2013 or so. Um okay. So
 

5737
01:51:45,119 --> 01:51:46,870
met you around 2013 or so. Um okay. So
that makes more sense. All right. I'm

5738
01:51:46,870 --> 01:51:46,880
that makes more sense. All right. I'm
 

5739
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:48,870
that makes more sense. All right. I'm
confusing myself here. It does make a

5740
01:51:48,870 --> 01:51:48,880
confusing myself here. It does make a
 

5741
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,030
confusing myself here. It does make a
lot more sense. Yeah. Well, well, I'll

5742
01:51:51,030 --> 01:51:51,040
lot more sense. Yeah. Well, well, I'll
 

5743
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:52,870
lot more sense. Yeah. Well, well, I'll
be honest. Like, I don't even think that

5744
01:51:52,870 --> 01:51:52,880
be honest. Like, I don't even think that
 

5745
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:54,390
be honest. Like, I don't even think that
because when Lizzie showed this to me,

5746
01:51:54,390 --> 01:51:54,400
because when Lizzie showed this to me,
 

5747
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:56,149
because when Lizzie showed this to me,
that's how I had interpreted it, too,

5748
01:51:56,149 --> 01:51:56,159
that's how I had interpreted it, too,
 

5749
01:51:56,159 --> 01:51:59,830
that's how I had interpreted it, too,
was I I I remember telling Lizzie I was

5750
01:51:59,830 --> 01:51:59,840
was I I I remember telling Lizzie I was
 

5751
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:02,950
was I I I remember telling Lizzie I was
a child because there were remarks, if I

5752
01:52:02,950 --> 01:52:02,960
a child because there were remarks, if I
 

5753
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:04,950
a child because there were remarks, if I
remember correctly, in these DMs that

5754
01:52:04,950 --> 01:52:04,960
remember correctly, in these DMs that
 

5755
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:07,109
remember correctly, in these DMs that
says, you know, I think one of one of

5756
01:52:07,109 --> 01:52:07,119
says, you know, I think one of one of
 

5757
01:52:07,119 --> 01:52:08,870
says, you know, I think one of one of
the people working here, like we one of

5758
01:52:08,870 --> 01:52:08,880
the people working here, like we one of
 

5759
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,350
the people working here, like we one of
us might be like the the father to her

5760
01:52:11,350 --> 01:52:11,360
us might be like the the father to her
 

5761
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:14,870
us might be like the the father to her
kid. And I was pregnant as a teenager

5762
01:52:14,870 --> 01:52:14,880
kid. And I was pregnant as a teenager
 

5763
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:18,629
kid. And I was pregnant as a teenager
and so that's a strange implication to

5764
01:52:18,629 --> 01:52:18,639
and so that's a strange implication to
 

5765
01:52:18,639 --> 01:52:20,629
and so that's a strange implication to
make. And I think Lizzie even pointed

5766
01:52:20,629 --> 01:52:20,639
make. And I think Lizzie even pointed
 

5767
01:52:20,639 --> 01:52:23,109
make. And I think Lizzie even pointed
that out saying to him, "Well, well, I

5768
01:52:23,109 --> 01:52:23,119
that out saying to him, "Well, well, I
 

5769
01:52:23,119 --> 01:52:24,790
that out saying to him, "Well, well, I
don't know. That adds up because she was

5770
01:52:24,790 --> 01:52:24,800
don't know. That adds up because she was
 

5771
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:26,550
don't know. That adds up because she was
like 16 at the time." And I think he

5772
01:52:26,550 --> 01:52:26,560
like 16 at the time." And I think he
 

5773
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:28,229
like 16 at the time." And I think he
began to like backpedal if I remember

5774
01:52:28,229 --> 01:52:28,239
began to like backpedal if I remember
 

5775
01:52:28,239 --> 01:52:31,189
began to like backpedal if I remember
correctly. Um, so yeah, this is this is

5776
01:52:31,189 --> 01:52:31,199
correctly. Um, so yeah, this is this is
 

5777
01:52:31,199 --> 01:52:33,270
correctly. Um, so yeah, this is this is
a random guy. I don't know who this guy

5778
01:52:33,270 --> 01:52:33,280
a random guy. I don't know who this guy
 

5779
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:35,350
a random guy. I don't know who this guy
is. There was even a point in time where

5780
01:52:35,350 --> 01:52:35,360
is. There was even a point in time where
 

5781
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:38,310
is. There was even a point in time where
I considered reaching out to him because

5782
01:52:38,310 --> 01:52:38,320
I considered reaching out to him because
 

5783
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,709
I considered reaching out to him because
seeing somebody say something like that

5784
01:52:40,709 --> 01:52:40,719
seeing somebody say something like that
 

5785
01:52:40,719 --> 01:52:42,950
seeing somebody say something like that
was just it's it's upsetting. You know,

5786
01:52:42,950 --> 01:52:42,960
was just it's it's upsetting. You know,
 

5787
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:44,229
was just it's it's upsetting. You know,
I don't know who the hell these guys

5788
01:52:44,229 --> 01:52:44,239
I don't know who the hell these guys
 

5789
01:52:44,239 --> 01:52:46,149
I don't know who the hell these guys
are. just some guy just spreading around

5790
01:52:46,149 --> 01:52:46,159
are. just some guy just spreading around
 

5791
01:52:46,159 --> 01:52:49,030
are. just some guy just spreading around
a a dirty rumor that I oh yeah, she

5792
01:52:49,030 --> 01:52:49,040
a a dirty rumor that I oh yeah, she
 

5793
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:51,830
a a dirty rumor that I oh yeah, she
totally wants me, you know, and it's I

5794
01:52:51,830 --> 01:52:51,840
totally wants me, you know, and it's I
 

5795
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:53,750
totally wants me, you know, and it's I
when I considered reaching out, I found

5796
01:52:53,750 --> 01:52:53,760
when I considered reaching out, I found
 

5797
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:55,910
when I considered reaching out, I found
his Facebook, saw one of his posts

5798
01:52:55,910 --> 01:52:55,920
his Facebook, saw one of his posts
 

5799
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:57,830
his Facebook, saw one of his posts
talking about his kid being sick, and I

5800
01:52:57,830 --> 01:52:57,840
talking about his kid being sick, and I
 

5801
01:52:57,840 --> 01:52:59,149
talking about his kid being sick, and I
just felt like, you

5802
01:52:59,149 --> 01:52:59,159
just felt like, you
 

5803
01:52:59,159 --> 01:53:01,990
just felt like, you
know, I'm not I'm not piling on to it.

5804
01:53:01,990 --> 01:53:02,000
know, I'm not I'm not piling on to it.
 

5805
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:04,229
know, I'm not I'm not piling on to it.
you know what he did him spreading these

5806
01:53:04,229 --> 01:53:04,239
you know what he did him spreading these
 

5807
01:53:04,239 --> 01:53:06,070
you know what he did him spreading these
rumors. I think that this was shitty.

5808
01:53:06,070 --> 01:53:06,080
rumors. I think that this was shitty.
 

5809
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:08,550
rumors. I think that this was shitty.
But he already obviously has a lot going

5810
01:53:08,550 --> 01:53:08,560
But he already obviously has a lot going
 

5811
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,990
But he already obviously has a lot going
on as in his life. So, you know, oh

5812
01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:12,000
on as in his life. So, you know, oh
 

5813
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:14,149
on as in his life. So, you know, oh
well, I decided not to confront him over

5814
01:53:14,149 --> 01:53:14,159
well, I decided not to confront him over
 

5815
01:53:14,159 --> 01:53:15,669
well, I decided not to confront him over
it because I didn't want to really pile

5816
01:53:15,669 --> 01:53:15,679
it because I didn't want to really pile
 

5817
01:53:15,679 --> 01:53:18,709
it because I didn't want to really pile
on. But, no, this is just a stranger

5818
01:53:18,709 --> 01:53:18,719
on. But, no, this is just a stranger
 

5819
01:53:18,719 --> 01:53:22,390
on. But, no, this is just a stranger
online who just made [\h__\h] up and then

5820
01:53:22,390 --> 01:53:22,400
online who just made [\h__\h] up and then
 

5821
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:24,790
online who just made [\h__\h] up and then
this was in a conversation with Lizzie

5822
01:53:24,790 --> 01:53:24,800
this was in a conversation with Lizzie
 

5823
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:26,470
this was in a conversation with Lizzie
and then Lizzie uh posted the

5824
01:53:26,470 --> 01:53:26,480
and then Lizzie uh posted the
 

5825
01:53:26,480 --> 01:53:27,990
and then Lizzie uh posted the
screenshots online, you know, and there

5826
01:53:27,990 --> 01:53:28,000
screenshots online, you know, and there
 

5827
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:29,510
screenshots online, you know, and there
have been people kind of running with

5828
01:53:29,510 --> 01:53:29,520
have been people kind of running with
 

5829
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,830
have been people kind of running with
this idea of me doing this, but yeah. No

5830
01:53:31,830 --> 01:53:31,840
this idea of me doing this, but yeah. No
 

5831
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:34,470
this idea of me doing this, but yeah. No
truth to it at all. Yeah, it says that

5832
01:53:34,470 --> 01:53:34,480
truth to it at all. Yeah, it says that
 

5833
01:53:34,480 --> 01:53:36,149
truth to it at all. Yeah, it says that
um reached out to me about two years

5834
01:53:36,149 --> 01:53:36,159
um reached out to me about two years
 

5835
01:53:36,159 --> 01:53:37,589
um reached out to me about two years
ago, but that was the last time I heard

5836
01:53:37,589 --> 01:53:37,599
ago, but that was the last time I heard
 

5837
01:53:37,599 --> 01:53:39,430
ago, but that was the last time I heard
from her. She wanted me to [\h__\h] her and

5838
01:53:39,430 --> 01:53:39,440
from her. She wanted me to [\h__\h] her and
 

5839
01:53:39,440 --> 01:53:41,589
from her. She wanted me to [\h__\h] her and
go to a party with her. She messaged me

5840
01:53:41,589 --> 01:53:41,599
go to a party with her. She messaged me
 

5841
01:53:41,599 --> 01:53:43,350
go to a party with her. She messaged me
on Snapchat. I'm not sure how she got

5842
01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:43,360
on Snapchat. I'm not sure how she got
 

5843
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:46,550
on Snapchat. I'm not sure how she got
it. Didn't respond and I didn't ask. Uh

5844
01:53:46,550 --> 01:53:46,560
it. Didn't respond and I didn't ask. Uh
 

5845
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:48,070
it. Didn't respond and I didn't ask. Uh
apparently this person was claiming you

5846
01:53:48,070 --> 01:53:48,080
apparently this person was claiming you
 

5847
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:50,390
apparently this person was claiming you
were 20 or 21 at the time apparently

5848
01:53:50,390 --> 01:53:50,400
were 20 or 21 at the time apparently
 

5849
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:51,830
were 20 or 21 at the time apparently
saying that like you want to have his

5850
01:53:51,830 --> 01:53:51,840
saying that like you want to have his
 

5851
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:53,990
saying that like you want to have his
babies or something like that. Like

5852
01:53:53,990 --> 01:53:54,000
babies or something like that. Like
 

5853
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,070
babies or something like that. Like
these these are weird things to say

5854
01:53:56,070 --> 01:53:56,080
these these are weird things to say
 

5855
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:58,310
these these are weird things to say
about somebody that and I want to say

5856
01:53:58,310 --> 01:53:58,320
about somebody that and I want to say
 

5857
01:53:58,320 --> 01:53:59,990
about somebody that and I want to say
that maybe he's just thinking it's a

5858
01:53:59,990 --> 01:54:00,000
that maybe he's just thinking it's a
 

5859
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:01,669
that maybe he's just thinking it's a
different Emily because Emily's Emily

5860
01:54:01,669 --> 01:54:01,679
different Emily because Emily's Emily
 

5861
01:54:01,679 --> 01:54:04,070
different Emily because Emily's Emily
Jones both Emily and the last name Jones

5862
01:54:04,070 --> 01:54:04,080
Jones both Emily and the last name Jones
 

5863
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,310
Jones both Emily and the last name Jones
is a very common first and last name. So

5864
01:54:06,310 --> 01:54:06,320
is a very common first and last name. So
 

5865
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:08,709
is a very common first and last name. So
I'm like is he talking about somebody

5866
01:54:08,709 --> 01:54:08,719
I'm like is he talking about somebody
 

5867
01:54:08,719 --> 01:54:11,430
I'm like is he talking about somebody
else but no he's like talking about how

5868
01:54:11,430 --> 01:54:11,440
else but no he's like talking about how
 

5869
01:54:11,440 --> 01:54:13,350
else but no he's like talking about how
you try to sleep your way up in the

5870
01:54:13,350 --> 01:54:13,360
you try to sleep your way up in the
 

5871
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:15,189
you try to sleep your way up in the
ranks of Sega too. So I'm like no you're

5872
01:54:15,189 --> 01:54:15,199
ranks of Sega too. So I'm like no you're
 

5873
01:54:15,199 --> 01:54:17,109
ranks of Sega too. So I'm like no you're
talking about the Emily Jones. What the

5874
01:54:17,109 --> 01:54:17,119
talking about the Emily Jones. What the
 

5875
01:54:17,119 --> 01:54:19,910
talking about the Emily Jones. What the
[\h__\h] is going on? Like what? That's a

5876
01:54:19,910 --> 01:54:19,920
[\h__\h] is going on? Like what? That's a
 

5877
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,470
[\h__\h] is going on? Like what? That's a
good point actually. And it's going off

5878
01:54:22,470 --> 01:54:22,480
good point actually. And it's going off
 

5879
01:54:22,480 --> 01:54:25,350
good point actually. And it's going off
of information that doesn't line up. For

5880
01:54:25,350 --> 01:54:25,360
of information that doesn't line up. For
 

5881
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:27,990
of information that doesn't line up. For
starters, I had a Snapchat, but I didn't

5882
01:54:27,990 --> 01:54:28,000
starters, I had a Snapchat, but I didn't
 

5883
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:30,870
starters, I had a Snapchat, but I didn't
talk to people on it. I only downloaded

5884
01:54:30,870 --> 01:54:30,880
talk to people on it. I only downloaded
 

5885
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:34,390
talk to people on it. I only downloaded
Snapchat back in like 2016 just so I

5886
01:54:34,390 --> 01:54:34,400
Snapchat back in like 2016 just so I
 

5887
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:36,070
Snapchat back in like 2016 just so I
could use the filters because I thought

5888
01:54:36,070 --> 01:54:36,080
could use the filters because I thought
 

5889
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:38,390
could use the filters because I thought
they were cute. I didn't talk to anybody

5890
01:54:38,390 --> 01:54:38,400
they were cute. I didn't talk to anybody
 

5891
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:42,390
they were cute. I didn't talk to anybody
on the app. And also too, after I gave

5892
01:54:42,390 --> 01:54:42,400
on the app. And also too, after I gave
 

5893
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:45,350
on the app. And also too, after I gave
birth, I didn't want to have more kids

5894
01:54:45,350 --> 01:54:45,360
birth, I didn't want to have more kids
 

5895
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:47,669
birth, I didn't want to have more kids
because actually my birth was traumatic.

5896
01:54:47,669 --> 01:54:47,679
because actually my birth was traumatic.
 

5897
01:54:47,679 --> 01:54:50,070
because actually my birth was traumatic.
So for me to be like, "Oh, I I want all

5898
01:54:50,070 --> 01:54:50,080
So for me to be like, "Oh, I I want all
 

5899
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:52,470
So for me to be like, "Oh, I I want all
these kids. I want your kid." That's I

5900
01:54:52,470 --> 01:54:52,480
these kids. I want your kid." That's I
 

5901
01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:55,189
these kids. I want your kid." That's I
actually I'm good. I I had a very

5902
01:54:55,189 --> 01:54:55,199
actually I'm good. I I had a very
 

5903
01:54:55,199 --> 01:54:57,270
actually I'm good. I I had a very
traumatic experience giving birth and I

5904
01:54:57,270 --> 01:54:57,280
traumatic experience giving birth and I
 

5905
01:54:57,280 --> 01:54:59,430
traumatic experience giving birth and I
it it's just none of that matters

5906
01:54:59,430 --> 01:54:59,440
it it's just none of that matters
 

5907
01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:01,350
it it's just none of that matters
obviously, but to me it's irritating

5908
01:55:01,350 --> 01:55:01,360
obviously, but to me it's irritating
 

5909
01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:03,830
obviously, but to me it's irritating
because it's just you're not even trying

5910
01:55:03,830 --> 01:55:03,840
because it's just you're not even trying
 

5911
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:06,070
because it's just you're not even trying
to be convincing with the stuff you're

5912
01:55:06,070 --> 01:55:06,080
to be convincing with the stuff you're
 

5913
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:08,310
to be convincing with the stuff you're
making up, right? It just seems so

5914
01:55:08,310 --> 01:55:08,320
making up, right? It just seems so
 

5915
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:10,870
making up, right? It just seems so
random and weird. Like I don't

5916
01:55:10,870 --> 01:55:10,880
random and weird. Like I don't
 

5917
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:12,149
random and weird. Like I don't
understand. Like he he's saying that

5918
01:55:12,149 --> 01:55:12,159
understand. Like he he's saying that
 

5919
01:55:12,159 --> 01:55:13,910
understand. Like he he's saying that
like you apparently tried to harass him

5920
01:55:13,910 --> 01:55:13,920
like you apparently tried to harass him
 

5921
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:15,270
like you apparently tried to harass him
and he's he mentioned being his

5922
01:55:15,270 --> 01:55:15,280
and he's he mentioned being his
 

5923
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:16,629
and he's he mentioned being his
sheriff's deputy and that's what got you

5924
01:55:16,629 --> 01:55:16,639
sheriff's deputy and that's what got you
 

5925
01:55:16,639 --> 01:55:19,990
sheriff's deputy and that's what got you
to stop. And I'm like, dude, I don't I

5926
01:55:19,990 --> 01:55:20,000
to stop. And I'm like, dude, I don't I
 

5927
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:21,270
to stop. And I'm like, dude, I don't I
don't know what the hell you're talking

5928
01:55:21,270 --> 01:55:21,280
don't know what the hell you're talking
 

5929
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:22,550
don't know what the hell you're talking
about. Like, this is the craziest thing

5930
01:55:22,550 --> 01:55:22,560
about. Like, this is the craziest thing
 

5931
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:25,669
about. Like, this is the craziest thing
I've ever seen in my life.

5932
01:55:25,669 --> 01:55:25,679
I've ever seen in my life.
 

5933
01:55:25,679 --> 01:55:29,030
I've ever seen in my life.
This is like again, I really want I

5934
01:55:29,030 --> 01:55:29,040
This is like again, I really want I
 

5935
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:30,470
This is like again, I really want I
really wanted to DM him and be like,

5936
01:55:30,470 --> 01:55:30,480
really wanted to DM him and be like,
 

5937
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:32,310
really wanted to DM him and be like,
"Who the hell do you think you are?" You

5938
01:55:32,310 --> 01:55:32,320
"Who the hell do you think you are?" You
 

5939
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:35,189
"Who the hell do you think you are?" You
know, but I'm I'm glad I didn't, you

5940
01:55:35,189 --> 01:55:35,199
know, but I'm I'm glad I didn't, you
 

5941
01:55:35,199 --> 01:55:37,189
know, but I'm I'm glad I didn't, you
know, it's just situations like that.

5942
01:55:37,189 --> 01:55:37,199
know, it's just situations like that.
 

5943
01:55:37,199 --> 01:55:38,870
know, it's just situations like that.
It's better not to give them that

5944
01:55:38,870 --> 01:55:38,880
It's better not to give them that
 

5945
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:40,870
It's better not to give them that
attention because I I assume that's what

5946
01:55:40,870 --> 01:55:40,880
attention because I I assume that's what
 

5947
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:44,149
attention because I I assume that's what
they want out of that. Yeah. And I mean

5948
01:55:44,149 --> 01:55:44,159
they want out of that. Yeah. And I mean
 

5949
01:55:44,159 --> 01:55:46,629
they want out of that. Yeah. And I mean
like it what kind of conversation could

5950
01:55:46,629 --> 01:55:46,639
like it what kind of conversation could
 

5951
01:55:46,639 --> 01:55:48,790
like it what kind of conversation could
you possibly have? I mean to be honest

5952
01:55:48,790 --> 01:55:48,800
you possibly have? I mean to be honest
 

5953
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:49,830
you possibly have? I mean to be honest
even if you did say do something like

5954
01:55:49,830 --> 01:55:49,840
even if you did say do something like
 

5955
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:51,510
even if you did say do something like
that I wouldn't even blame you but at

5956
01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:51,520
that I wouldn't even blame you but at
 

5957
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:52,870
that I wouldn't even blame you but at
the same time it's like would that be a

5958
01:55:52,870 --> 01:55:52,880
the same time it's like would that be a
 

5959
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:54,030
the same time it's like would that be a
productive

5960
01:55:54,030 --> 01:55:54,040
productive
 

5961
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:56,550
productive
conversation? Probably not. Right. And

5962
01:55:56,550 --> 01:55:56,560
conversation? Probably not. Right. And
 

5963
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:58,070
conversation? Probably not. Right. And
and I thought about that too. I thought

5964
01:55:58,070 --> 01:55:58,080
and I thought about that too. I thought
 

5965
01:55:58,080 --> 01:55:59,189
and I thought about that too. I thought
there's no way this is going to be

5966
01:55:59,189 --> 01:55:59,199
there's no way this is going to be
 

5967
01:55:59,199 --> 01:56:01,270
there's no way this is going to be
productive. You know he's either going

5968
01:56:01,270 --> 01:56:01,280
productive. You know he's either going
 

5969
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:03,750
productive. You know he's either going
to not respond to me or he's going to

5970
01:56:03,750 --> 01:56:03,760
to not respond to me or he's going to
 

5971
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:05,589
to not respond to me or he's going to
deflect or say that he never said these

5972
01:56:05,589 --> 01:56:05,599
deflect or say that he never said these
 

5973
01:56:05,599 --> 01:56:09,310
deflect or say that he never said these
things or whatever, you know? Right. So

5974
01:56:09,310 --> 01:56:09,320
things or whatever, you know? Right. So
 

5975
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:11,830
things or whatever, you know? Right. So
random. [\h__\h] crazy as [\h__\h] It's just

5976
01:56:11,830 --> 01:56:11,840
random. [\h__\h] crazy as [\h__\h] It's just
 

5977
01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:15,589
random. [\h__\h] crazy as [\h__\h] It's just
weird. I I just it's it's it's I I'm so

5978
01:56:15,589 --> 01:56:15,599
weird. I I just it's it's it's I I'm so
 

5979
01:56:15,599 --> 01:56:18,310
weird. I I just it's it's it's I I'm so
sorry, you know. Yeah, that's so shitty.

5980
01:56:18,310 --> 01:56:18,320
sorry, you know. Yeah, that's so shitty.
 

5981
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:21,910
sorry, you know. Yeah, that's so shitty.
That's what a [\h__\h] weirdo.

5982
01:56:21,910 --> 01:56:21,920
That's what a [\h__\h] weirdo.
 

5983
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:23,830
That's what a [\h__\h] weirdo.
It's just something that, you know, it

5984
01:56:23,830 --> 01:56:23,840
It's just something that, you know, it
 

5985
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:26,709
It's just something that, you know, it
does happen. Like, not to everybody, but

5986
01:56:26,709 --> 01:56:26,719
does happen. Like, not to everybody, but
 

5987
01:56:26,719 --> 01:56:29,430
does happen. Like, not to everybody, but
you know, as like a as a female content

5988
01:56:29,430 --> 01:56:29,440
you know, as like a as a female content
 

5989
01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:30,870
you know, as like a as a female content
creator, it's, you know, it's not the

5990
01:56:30,870 --> 01:56:30,880
creator, it's, you know, it's not the
 

5991
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:32,709
creator, it's, you know, it's not the
only time I've experienced people just

5992
01:56:32,709 --> 01:56:32,719
only time I've experienced people just
 

5993
01:56:32,719 --> 01:56:34,149
only time I've experienced people just
being, you know, just spreading around

5994
01:56:34,149 --> 01:56:34,159
being, you know, just spreading around
 

5995
01:56:34,159 --> 01:56:37,350
being, you know, just spreading around
rumors like that. So, you know. Yeah. I

5996
01:56:37,350 --> 01:56:37,360
rumors like that. So, you know. Yeah. I
 

5997
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:39,669
rumors like that. So, you know. Yeah. I
mean I mean if I get to a point in my

5998
01:56:39,669 --> 01:56:39,679
mean I mean if I get to a point in my
 

5999
01:56:39,679 --> 01:56:41,470
mean I mean if I get to a point in my
whole online

6000
01:56:41,470 --> 01:56:41,480
whole online
 

6001
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:43,830
whole online
anim what's the word? What am I saying?

6002
01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:43,840
anim what's the word? What am I saying?
 

6003
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:46,149
anim what's the word? What am I saying?
If I ever get a point in my online

6004
01:56:46,149 --> 01:56:46,159
If I ever get a point in my online
 

6005
01:56:46,159 --> 01:56:47,910
If I ever get a point in my online
infamy where people are being like yeah

6006
01:56:47,910 --> 01:56:47,920
infamy where people are being like yeah
 

6007
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:50,550
infamy where people are being like yeah
I totally had sex with that person. I'd

6008
01:56:50,550 --> 01:56:50,560
I totally had sex with that person. I'd
 

6009
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:54,709
I totally had sex with that person. I'd
be like what in the world? Like I would

6010
01:56:54,709 --> 01:56:54,719
be like what in the world? Like I would
 

6011
01:56:54,719 --> 01:56:55,990
be like what in the world? Like I would
just delete my channel at that point.

6012
01:56:55,990 --> 01:56:56,000
just delete my channel at that point.
 

6013
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:57,589
just delete my channel at that point.
I'm like just leave me alone. Like this

6014
01:56:57,589 --> 01:56:57,599
I'm like just leave me alone. Like this
 

6015
01:56:57,599 --> 01:57:00,790
I'm like just leave me alone. Like this
is the craziest thing ever.

6016
01:57:00,790 --> 01:57:00,800
is the craziest thing ever.
 

6017
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:02,550
is the craziest thing ever.
I get it. But honestly like that's how

6018
01:57:02,550 --> 01:57:02,560
I get it. But honestly like that's how
 

6019
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:04,470
I get it. But honestly like that's how
you know you've made it. You know,

6020
01:57:04,470 --> 01:57:04,480
you know you've made it. You know,
 

6021
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:08,950
you know you've made it. You know,
people are just I guess Jesus Christ. I

6022
01:57:08,950 --> 01:57:08,960
people are just I guess Jesus Christ. I
 

6023
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:10,550
people are just I guess Jesus Christ. I
guess that's I've made it. You know,

6024
01:57:10,550 --> 01:57:10,560
guess that's I've made it. You know,
 

6025
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:13,030
guess that's I've made it. You know,
people are bragging about non-existent

6026
01:57:13,030 --> 01:57:13,040
people are bragging about non-existent
 

6027
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:15,430
people are bragging about non-existent
sex, you know,

6028
01:57:15,430 --> 01:57:15,440
sex, you know,
 

6029
01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:18,390
sex, you know,
dude. I can never That's insane.

6030
01:57:18,390 --> 01:57:18,400
dude. I can never That's insane.
 

6031
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:19,669
dude. I can never That's insane.
Apparently, that's something I guess I

6032
01:57:19,669 --> 01:57:19,679
Apparently, that's something I guess I
 

6033
01:57:19,679 --> 01:57:21,350
Apparently, that's something I guess I
have to look forward to is people making

6034
01:57:21,350 --> 01:57:21,360
have to look forward to is people making
 

6035
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,430
have to look forward to is people making
up stories about me apparently having

6036
01:57:23,430 --> 01:57:23,440
up stories about me apparently having
 

6037
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:24,950
up stories about me apparently having
sex with random people. I love that for

6038
01:57:24,950 --> 01:57:24,960
sex with random people. I love that for
 

6039
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:26,229
sex with random people. I love that for
me. That's going to be so much fun.

6040
01:57:26,229 --> 01:57:26,239
me. That's going to be so much fun.
 

6041
01:57:26,239 --> 01:57:28,790
me. That's going to be so much fun.
Thanks for the heads up. This isn't even

6042
01:57:28,790 --> 01:57:28,800
Thanks for the heads up. This isn't even
 

6043
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:30,629
Thanks for the heads up. This isn't even
This is not even the only time this has

6044
01:57:30,629 --> 01:57:30,639
This is not even the only time this has
 

6045
01:57:30,639 --> 01:57:31,910
This is not even the only time this has
like this happened a few times. There

6046
01:57:31,910 --> 01:57:31,920
like this happened a few times. There
 

6047
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:35,030
like this happened a few times. There
was one time where this one, it was a

6048
01:57:35,030 --> 01:57:35,040
was one time where this one, it was a
 

6049
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:37,750
was one time where this one, it was a
kid, this was like a 15-year-old kid and

6050
01:57:37,750 --> 01:57:37,760
kid, this was like a 15-year-old kid and
 

6051
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:40,070
kid, this was like a 15-year-old kid and
like a group of people like confronted

6052
01:57:40,070 --> 01:57:40,080
like a group of people like confronted
 

6053
01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:43,109
like a group of people like confronted
me over this because this was like a kid

6054
01:57:43,109 --> 01:57:43,119
me over this because this was like a kid
 

6055
01:57:43,119 --> 01:57:44,870
me over this because this was like a kid
who convinced like a large group of

6056
01:57:44,870 --> 01:57:44,880
who convinced like a large group of
 

6057
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:47,109
who convinced like a large group of
developers to like make a game for them

6058
01:57:47,109 --> 01:57:47,119
developers to like make a game for them
 

6059
01:57:47,119 --> 01:57:49,430
developers to like make a game for them
and he was claiming like, "Yeah, you're

6060
01:57:49,430 --> 01:57:49,440
and he was claiming like, "Yeah, you're
 

6061
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:50,629
and he was claiming like, "Yeah, you're
making a game and it's going to be for

6062
01:57:50,629 --> 01:57:50,639
making a game and it's going to be for
 

6063
01:57:50,639 --> 01:57:53,589
making a game and it's going to be for
Sega and like here's the NDA and they

6064
01:57:53,589 --> 01:57:53,599
Sega and like here's the NDA and they
 

6065
01:57:53,599 --> 01:57:55,669
Sega and like here's the NDA and they
all came to me because I I guess this

6066
01:57:55,669 --> 01:57:55,679
all came to me because I I guess this
 

6067
01:57:55,679 --> 01:57:58,310
all came to me because I I guess this
kid told them that uh I was going to

6068
01:57:58,310 --> 01:57:58,320
kid told them that uh I was going to
 

6069
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:01,510
kid told them that uh I was going to
voice one of the characters and I I you

6070
01:58:01,510 --> 01:58:01,520
voice one of the characters and I I you
 

6071
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:03,109
voice one of the characters and I I you
Being somebody who is obviously, you

6072
01:58:03,109 --> 01:58:03,119
Being somebody who is obviously, you
 

6073
01:58:03,119 --> 01:58:05,350
Being somebody who is obviously, you
know, I've talked with people at Sega,

6074
01:58:05,350 --> 01:58:05,360
know, I've talked with people at Sega,
 

6075
01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:06,950
know, I've talked with people at Sega,
uh, they confronted me and I said,

6076
01:58:06,950 --> 01:58:06,960
uh, they confronted me and I said,
 

6077
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:08,870
uh, they confronted me and I said,
"Yeah, none of that is happening, guys.

6078
01:58:08,870 --> 01:58:08,880
"Yeah, none of that is happening, guys.
 

6079
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:10,470
"Yeah, none of that is happening, guys.
This is not like an official piece. This

6080
01:58:10,470 --> 01:58:10,480
This is not like an official piece. This
 

6081
01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:12,550
This is not like an official piece. This
kid is just having you do a bunch of

6082
01:58:12,550 --> 01:58:12,560
kid is just having you do a bunch of
 

6083
01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:14,950
kid is just having you do a bunch of
stuff for him, you know." And then they

6084
01:58:14,950 --> 01:58:14,960
stuff for him, you know." And then they
 

6085
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:17,510
stuff for him, you know." And then they
brought up, "Oh, well, I imagine the

6086
01:58:17,510 --> 01:58:17,520
brought up, "Oh, well, I imagine the
 

6087
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:19,109
brought up, "Oh, well, I imagine the
other stuff's not real either." And I

6088
01:58:19,109 --> 01:58:19,119
other stuff's not real either." And I
 

6089
01:58:19,119 --> 01:58:20,950
other stuff's not real either." And I
said, "What other stuff?" And they said,

6090
01:58:20,950 --> 01:58:20,960
said, "What other stuff?" And they said,
 

6091
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:23,510
said, "What other stuff?" And they said,
"Yeah, this Yeah, I know. I'm like, oh

6092
01:58:23,510 --> 01:58:23,520
"Yeah, this Yeah, I know. I'm like, oh
 

6093
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:25,430
"Yeah, this Yeah, I know. I'm like, oh
god." And he said, well, he said that he

6094
01:58:25,430 --> 01:58:25,440
god." And he said, well, he said that he
 

6095
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:27,750
god." And he said, well, he said that he
saw you at a convention and he like he

6096
01:58:27,750 --> 01:58:27,760
saw you at a convention and he like he
 

6097
01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:29,589
saw you at a convention and he like he
got like a drink with like one of the

6098
01:58:29,589 --> 01:58:29,599
got like a drink with like one of the
 

6099
01:58:29,599 --> 01:58:31,990
got like a drink with like one of the
Sega reps and then he proceeded to like

6100
01:58:31,990 --> 01:58:32,000
Sega reps and then he proceeded to like
 

6101
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:33,669
Sega reps and then he proceeded to like
have his way with you and then he tossed

6102
01:58:33,669 --> 01:58:33,679
have his way with you and then he tossed
 

6103
01:58:33,679 --> 01:58:36,550
have his way with you and then he tossed
dollar bills on your body and I was

6104
01:58:36,550 --> 01:58:36,560
dollar bills on your body and I was
 

6105
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:39,030
dollar bills on your body and I was
like, "Huh? What the?" And this a

6106
01:58:39,030 --> 01:58:39,040
like, "Huh? What the?" And this a
 

6107
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:43,830
like, "Huh? What the?" And this a
15year-old kid. Jesus. Child Christ.

6108
01:58:43,830 --> 01:58:43,840
15year-old kid. Jesus. Child Christ.
 

6109
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:45,990
15year-old kid. Jesus. Child Christ.
And you know what I did? Called the

6110
01:58:45,990 --> 01:58:46,000
And you know what I did? Called the
 

6111
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:48,109
And you know what I did? Called the
police. I don't know. I would call the

6112
01:58:48,109 --> 01:58:48,119
police. I don't know. I would call the
 

6113
01:58:48,119 --> 01:58:50,830
police. I don't know. I would call the
police. I would call the cops. his

6114
01:58:50,830 --> 01:58:50,840
police. I would call the cops. his
 

6115
01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:53,589
police. I would call the cops. his
mother. His mother followed me on

6116
01:58:53,589 --> 01:58:53,599
mother. His mother followed me on
 

6117
01:58:53,599 --> 01:58:55,270
mother. His mother followed me on
Twitter because she is like an actress

6118
01:58:55,270 --> 01:58:55,280
Twitter because she is like an actress
 

6119
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:57,510
Twitter because she is like an actress
in the industry and I messaged his

6120
01:58:57,510 --> 01:58:57,520
in the industry and I messaged his
 

6121
01:58:57,520 --> 01:58:59,589
in the industry and I messaged his
mother and then he he literally got

6122
01:58:59,589 --> 01:58:59,599
mother and then he he literally got
 

6123
01:58:59,599 --> 01:59:01,830
mother and then he he literally got
grounded off the internet for like 3

6124
01:59:01,830 --> 01:59:01,840
grounded off the internet for like 3
 

6125
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:06,470
grounded off the internet for like 3
years. Oh my god. Honestly, deserved.

6126
01:59:06,470 --> 01:59:06,480
years. Oh my god. Honestly, deserved.
 

6127
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:09,910
years. Oh my god. Honestly, deserved.
Deserved. Yeah, cuz you're an old you're

6128
01:59:09,910 --> 01:59:09,920
Deserved. Yeah, cuz you're an old you're
 

6129
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:11,910
Deserved. Yeah, cuz you're an old you're
you're older. You're an adult. Like if

6130
01:59:11,910 --> 01:59:11,920
you're older. You're an adult. Like if
 

6131
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:13,990
you're older. You're an adult. Like if
that was a story that got around like

6132
01:59:13,990 --> 01:59:14,000
that was a story that got around like
 

6133
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:16,270
that was a story that got around like
even remotely online or like

6134
01:59:16,270 --> 01:59:16,280
even remotely online or like
 

6135
01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:18,310
even remotely online or like
whatever, people would be calling you

6136
01:59:18,310 --> 01:59:18,320
whatever, people would be calling you
 

6137
01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:19,830
whatever, people would be calling you
something else other than whatever

6138
01:59:19,830 --> 01:59:19,840
something else other than whatever
 

6139
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:21,430
something else other than whatever
they've been calling you right now.

6140
01:59:21,430 --> 01:59:21,440
they've been calling you right now.
 

6141
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:25,990
they've been calling you right now.
That's insanity. Yep. Oh my god. People,

6142
01:59:25,990 --> 01:59:26,000
That's insanity. Yep. Oh my god. People,
 

6143
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:27,830
That's insanity. Yep. Oh my god. People,
you know, some of these, you know, some

6144
01:59:27,830 --> 01:59:27,840
you know, some of these, you know, some
 

6145
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:29,270
you know, some of these, you know, some
of these people, they they would run

6146
01:59:29,270 --> 01:59:29,280
of these people, they they would run
 

6147
01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:30,950
of these people, they they would run
with it, you know, and then it's just

6148
01:59:30,950 --> 01:59:30,960
with it, you know, and then it's just
 

6149
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:33,350
with it, you know, and then it's just
more misinformation. And so, yeah. No, I

6150
01:59:33,350 --> 01:59:33,360
more misinformation. And so, yeah. No, I
 

6151
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:35,510
more misinformation. And so, yeah. No, I
contacted his mom and I'm like, "Hey,

6152
01:59:35,510 --> 01:59:35,520
contacted his mom and I'm like, "Hey,
 

6153
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:37,270
contacted his mom and I'm like, "Hey,
this is what your kid is saying. This is

6154
01:59:37,270 --> 01:59:37,280
this is what your kid is saying. This is
 

6155
01:59:37,280 --> 01:59:39,030
this is what your kid is saying. This is
extremely inappropriate. I'm at this

6156
01:59:39,030 --> 01:59:39,040
extremely inappropriate. I'm at this
 

6157
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:42,550
extremely inappropriate. I'm at this
time like in my early to mid20s. Uh

6158
01:59:42,550 --> 01:59:42,560
time like in my early to mid20s. Uh
 

6159
01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:44,950
time like in my early to mid20s. Uh
Jesus Christ, you you need to step in

6160
01:59:44,950 --> 01:59:44,960
Jesus Christ, you you need to step in
 

6161
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:47,270
Jesus Christ, you you need to step in
please. And yeah, he she apologized like

6162
01:59:47,270 --> 01:59:47,280
please. And yeah, he she apologized like
 

6163
01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:49,669
please. And yeah, he she apologized like
I am so sorry. Oh my god. Like he is not

6164
01:59:49,669 --> 01:59:49,679
I am so sorry. Oh my god. Like he is not
 

6165
01:59:49,679 --> 01:59:52,229
I am so sorry. Oh my god. Like he is not
allowed on the internet until he is 18.

6166
01:59:52,229 --> 01:59:52,239
allowed on the internet until he is 18.
 

6167
01:59:52,239 --> 01:59:53,550
allowed on the internet until he is 18.
Dear

6168
01:59:53,550 --> 01:59:53,560
Dear
 

6169
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:56,629
Dear
God. You know what? Deserved. I

6170
01:59:56,629 --> 01:59:56,639
God. You know what? Deserved. I
 

6171
01:59:56,639 --> 01:59:59,589
God. You know what? Deserved. I
deserved.

6172
01:59:59,589 --> 01:59:59,599
deserved.
 

6173
01:59:59,599 --> 02:00:01,189
deserved.
Anyway, sorry we got a little off track,

6174
02:00:01,189 --> 02:00:01,199
Anyway, sorry we got a little off track,
 

6175
02:00:01,199 --> 02:00:02,870
Anyway, sorry we got a little off track,
but um No, but that's insane. That's

6176
02:00:02,870 --> 02:00:02,880
but um No, but that's insane. That's
 

6177
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:03,990
but um No, but that's insane. That's
insane. Apparently, you've been dealing

6178
02:00:03,990 --> 02:00:04,000
insane. Apparently, you've been dealing
 

6179
02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:06,070
insane. Apparently, you've been dealing
with this for a while. It all It all

6180
02:00:06,070 --> 02:00:06,080
with this for a while. It all It all
 

6181
02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:07,910
with this for a while. It all It all
tracks. This is the worst thing I've

6182
02:00:07,910 --> 02:00:07,920
tracks. This is the worst thing I've
 

6183
02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:09,910
tracks. This is the worst thing I've
ever heard. But whatever. You think

6184
02:00:09,910 --> 02:00:09,920
ever heard. But whatever. You think
 

6185
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:11,350
ever heard. But whatever. You think
about it. You've been having this build

6186
02:00:11,350 --> 02:00:11,360
about it. You've been having this build
 

6187
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:13,189
about it. You've been having this build
up for like years and haven't had an

6188
02:00:13,189 --> 02:00:13,199
up for like years and haven't had an
 

6189
02:00:13,199 --> 02:00:16,070
up for like years and haven't had an
opportunity to properly like do a to

6190
02:00:16,070 --> 02:00:16,080
opportunity to properly like do a to
 

6191
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:19,030
opportunity to properly like do a to
tell your side, you know?

6192
02:00:19,030 --> 02:00:19,040
tell your side, you know?
 

6193
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:21,950
tell your side, you know?
Mhm. Yeah. No, absolutely.

6194
02:00:21,950 --> 02:00:21,960
Mhm. Yeah. No, absolutely.
 

6195
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:25,030
Mhm. Yeah. No, absolutely.
That's hard. Yeah. Well, it's like when

6196
02:00:25,030 --> 02:00:25,040
That's hard. Yeah. Well, it's like when
 

6197
02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:27,750
That's hard. Yeah. Well, it's like when
you have stuff like this piling on like

6198
02:00:27,750 --> 02:00:27,760
you have stuff like this piling on like
 

6199
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:29,669
you have stuff like this piling on like
layers after layers that all start to

6200
02:00:29,669 --> 02:00:29,679
layers after layers that all start to
 

6201
02:00:29,679 --> 02:00:32,310
layers after layers that all start to
sprout into like trees. Cuz the crazy

6202
02:00:32,310 --> 02:00:32,320
sprout into like trees. Cuz the crazy
 

6203
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:34,070
sprout into like trees. Cuz the crazy
thing with online drama is that it's

6204
02:00:34,070 --> 02:00:34,080
thing with online drama is that it's
 

6205
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:35,910
thing with online drama is that it's
always way more connected than you will

6206
02:00:35,910 --> 02:00:35,920
always way more connected than you will
 

6207
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:40,109
always way more connected than you will
ever expect. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And

6208
02:00:40,109 --> 02:00:40,119
ever expect. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And
 

6209
02:00:40,119 --> 02:00:42,390
ever expect. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And
Yeah. So, these are just especially from

6210
02:00:42,390 --> 02:00:42,400
Yeah. So, these are just especially from
 

6211
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:44,790
Yeah. So, these are just especially from
the outside looking. Yeah, for sure. Go

6212
02:00:44,790 --> 02:00:44,800
the outside looking. Yeah, for sure. Go
 

6213
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:46,390
the outside looking. Yeah, for sure. Go
ahead. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. I was

6214
02:00:46,390 --> 02:00:46,400
ahead. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. I was
 

6215
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:48,790
ahead. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. I was
just going to go towards the next two

6216
02:00:48,790 --> 02:00:48,800
just going to go towards the next two
 

6217
02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:50,149
just going to go towards the next two
things are actually kind of like small

6218
02:00:50,149 --> 02:00:50,159
things are actually kind of like small
 

6219
02:00:50,159 --> 02:00:51,589
things are actually kind of like small
petty things before we talk about like

6220
02:00:51,589 --> 02:00:51,599
petty things before we talk about like
 

6221
02:00:51,599 --> 02:00:53,830
petty things before we talk about like
the big final thing, but I did want to

6222
02:00:53,830 --> 02:00:53,840
the big final thing, but I did want to
 

6223
02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:55,510
the big final thing, but I did want to
at least address them cuz they're

6224
02:00:55,510 --> 02:00:55,520
at least address them cuz they're
 

6225
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:58,950
at least address them cuz they're
they're quick. So, let's talk about

6226
02:00:58,950 --> 02:00:58,960
they're quick. So, let's talk about
 

6227
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:01,030
they're quick. So, let's talk about
GoFundMe real quick. you've ran a couple

6228
02:01:01,030 --> 02:01:01,040
GoFundMe real quick. you've ran a couple
 

6229
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:03,350
GoFundMe real quick. you've ran a couple
um one of which was for um helping you

6230
02:01:03,350 --> 02:01:03,360
um one of which was for um helping you
 

6231
02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:05,350
um one of which was for um helping you
with health stuff and then another one

6232
02:01:05,350 --> 02:01:05,360
with health stuff and then another one
 

6233
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:08,229
with health stuff and then another one
was helping you move at the time. Um

6234
02:01:08,229 --> 02:01:08,239
was helping you move at the time. Um
 

6235
02:01:08,239 --> 02:01:09,990
was helping you move at the time. Um
coincidentally enough though like during

6236
02:01:09,990 --> 02:01:10,000
coincidentally enough though like during
 

6237
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:11,589
coincidentally enough though like during
the times that you would run gofundmes,

6238
02:01:11,589 --> 02:01:11,599
the times that you would run gofundmes,
 

6239
02:01:11,599 --> 02:01:13,109
the times that you would run gofundmes,
you would also be posting about certain

6240
02:01:13,109 --> 02:01:13,119
you would also be posting about certain
 

6241
02:01:13,119 --> 02:01:14,550
you would also be posting about certain
things you were attending like Sega

6242
02:01:14,550 --> 02:01:14,560
things you were attending like Sega
 

6243
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:17,070
things you were attending like Sega
related things like conventions or like

6244
02:01:17,070 --> 02:01:17,080
related things like conventions or like
 

6245
02:01:17,080 --> 02:01:19,910
related things like conventions or like
um uh vacations that you were at like

6246
02:01:19,910 --> 02:01:19,920
um uh vacations that you were at like
 

6247
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:21,589
um uh vacations that you were at like
when you were traveling and a lot of

6248
02:01:21,589 --> 02:01:21,599
when you were traveling and a lot of
 

6249
02:01:21,599 --> 02:01:23,350
when you were traveling and a lot of
people have assumed that like the money

6250
02:01:23,350 --> 02:01:23,360
people have assumed that like the money
 

6251
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:25,990
people have assumed that like the money
from these GoFundMes would go towards

6252
02:01:25,990 --> 02:01:26,000
from these GoFundMes would go towards
 

6253
02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:28,550
from these GoFundMes would go towards
these trips. Uh, I know that you are

6254
02:01:28,550 --> 02:01:28,560
these trips. Uh, I know that you are
 

6255
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:30,910
these trips. Uh, I know that you are
somebody who is like in the upper, you

6256
02:01:30,910 --> 02:01:30,920
somebody who is like in the upper, you
 

6257
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:33,990
somebody who is like in the upper, you
know, contacts with Sega and a lot of

6258
02:01:33,990 --> 02:01:34,000
know, contacts with Sega and a lot of
 

6259
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:35,669
know, contacts with Sega and a lot of
these conventions you were in look to be

6260
02:01:35,669 --> 02:01:35,679
these conventions you were in look to be
 

6261
02:01:35,679 --> 02:01:38,229
these conventions you were in look to be
Sega related. So, I I'm assuming, and

6262
02:01:38,229 --> 02:01:38,239
Sega related. So, I I'm assuming, and
 

6263
02:01:38,239 --> 02:01:41,189
Sega related. So, I I'm assuming, and
I'm just making an assumption here, uh,

6264
02:01:41,189 --> 02:01:41,199
I'm just making an assumption here, uh,
 

6265
02:01:41,199 --> 02:01:42,709
I'm just making an assumption here, uh,
given your connections, that a lot of

6266
02:01:42,709 --> 02:01:42,719
given your connections, that a lot of
 

6267
02:01:42,719 --> 02:01:45,189
given your connections, that a lot of
these trips probably were sponsored by

6268
02:01:45,189 --> 02:01:45,199
these trips probably were sponsored by
 

6269
02:01:45,199 --> 02:01:47,350
these trips probably were sponsored by
Sega, given your connections with Ryan

6270
02:01:47,350 --> 02:01:47,360
Sega, given your connections with Ryan
 

6271
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:49,430
Sega, given your connections with Ryan
and Mike and everything. So, did you

6272
02:01:49,430 --> 02:01:49,440
and Mike and everything. So, did you
 

6273
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:51,910
and Mike and everything. So, did you
ever like have to pay for these

6274
02:01:51,910 --> 02:01:51,920
ever like have to pay for these
 

6275
02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:53,589
ever like have to pay for these
convention meetups or anything? Or was

6276
02:01:53,589 --> 02:01:53,599
convention meetups or anything? Or was
 

6277
02:01:53,599 --> 02:01:56,629
convention meetups or anything? Or was
that like a Sega like we'll pay forward

6278
02:01:56,629 --> 02:01:56,639
that like a Sega like we'll pay forward
 

6279
02:01:56,639 --> 02:01:59,310
that like a Sega like we'll pay forward
towards this or

6280
02:01:59,310 --> 02:01:59,320
towards this or
 

6281
02:01:59,320 --> 02:02:01,510
towards this or
whatever? I would never pay out of

6282
02:02:01,510 --> 02:02:01,520
whatever? I would never pay out of
 

6283
02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:03,189
whatever? I would never pay out of
pocket for any of these trips. These

6284
02:02:03,189 --> 02:02:03,199
pocket for any of these trips. These
 

6285
02:02:03,199 --> 02:02:05,109
pocket for any of these trips. These
were things that were covered by others.

6286
02:02:05,109 --> 02:02:05,119
were things that were covered by others.
 

6287
02:02:05,119 --> 02:02:07,109
were things that were covered by others.
Um, a lot of these were like within the

6288
02:02:07,109 --> 02:02:07,119
Um, a lot of these were like within the
 

6289
02:02:07,119 --> 02:02:08,790
Um, a lot of these were like within the
community space. So, like going to these

6290
02:02:08,790 --> 02:02:08,800
community space. So, like going to these
 

6291
02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:10,550
community space. So, like going to these
different conventions, these conventions

6292
02:02:10,550 --> 02:02:10,560
different conventions, these conventions
 

6293
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:12,629
different conventions, these conventions
themselves would literally like cover

6294
02:02:12,629 --> 02:02:12,639
themselves would literally like cover
 

6295
02:02:12,639 --> 02:02:14,950
themselves would literally like cover
flight, hotel, and stuff like that. So

6296
02:02:14,950 --> 02:02:14,960
flight, hotel, and stuff like that. So
 

6297
02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:17,350
flight, hotel, and stuff like that. So
yes, anytime I had like around that

6298
02:02:17,350 --> 02:02:17,360
yes, anytime I had like around that
 

6299
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:20,550
yes, anytime I had like around that
time, these were all covered completely

6300
02:02:20,550 --> 02:02:20,560
time, these were all covered completely
 

6301
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:23,030
time, these were all covered completely
by other parties. This was not anything

6302
02:02:23,030 --> 02:02:23,040
by other parties. This was not anything
 

6303
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:25,990
by other parties. This was not anything
coming out of pocket. Um, literally from

6304
02:02:25,990 --> 02:02:26,000
coming out of pocket. Um, literally from
 

6305
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:28,149
coming out of pocket. Um, literally from
the first GoFundMe when I moved, I

6306
02:02:28,149 --> 02:02:28,159
the first GoFundMe when I moved, I
 

6307
02:02:28,159 --> 02:02:32,310
the first GoFundMe when I moved, I
earned 5,000. I put literally 2150 on my

6308
02:02:32,310 --> 02:02:32,320
earned 5,000. I put literally 2150 on my
 

6309
02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:34,149
earned 5,000. I put literally 2150 on my
first month of rent and I put literally

6310
02:02:34,149 --> 02:02:34,159
first month of rent and I put literally
 

6311
02:02:34,159 --> 02:02:36,470
first month of rent and I put literally
the rest on getting like the moving van

6312
02:02:36,470 --> 02:02:36,480
the rest on getting like the moving van
 

6313
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:38,550
the rest on getting like the moving van
and like flying and everything. I did

6314
02:02:38,550 --> 02:02:38,560
and like flying and everything. I did
 

6315
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:40,790
and like flying and everything. I did
not have the additional money to put

6316
02:02:40,790 --> 02:02:40,800
not have the additional money to put
 

6317
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:42,629
not have the additional money to put
that towards anything else. So yeah, me

6318
02:02:42,629 --> 02:02:42,639
that towards anything else. So yeah, me
 

6319
02:02:42,639 --> 02:02:44,149
that towards anything else. So yeah, me
going out and going to any of these

6320
02:02:44,149 --> 02:02:44,159
going out and going to any of these
 

6321
02:02:44,159 --> 02:02:46,070
going out and going to any of these
conventions, a lot all this was it was

6322
02:02:46,070 --> 02:02:46,080
conventions, a lot all this was it was
 

6323
02:02:46,080 --> 02:02:47,990
conventions, a lot all this was it was
covered. Gotcha. Okay. So these were

6324
02:02:47,990 --> 02:02:48,000
covered. Gotcha. Okay. So these were
 

6325
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:49,510
covered. Gotcha. Okay. So these were
things you were invited to as somebody

6326
02:02:49,510 --> 02:02:49,520
things you were invited to as somebody
 

6327
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:54,629
things you were invited to as somebody
who is like working higher up at Sega

6328
02:02:54,629 --> 02:02:54,639
who is like working higher up at Sega
 

6329
02:02:54,639 --> 02:02:57,030
who is like working higher up at Sega
working up like in the in the community

6330
02:02:57,030 --> 02:02:57,040
working up like in the in the community
 

6331
02:02:57,040 --> 02:02:59,830
working up like in the in the community
space more so than like being like a

6332
02:02:59,830 --> 02:02:59,840
space more so than like being like a
 

6333
02:02:59,840 --> 02:03:01,270
space more so than like being like a
direct employee, you know what I mean?

6334
02:03:01,270 --> 02:03:01,280
direct employee, you know what I mean?
 

6335
02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:03,830
direct employee, you know what I mean?
Like being like an influencer. Uh so

6336
02:03:03,830 --> 02:03:03,840
Like being like an influencer. Uh so
 

6337
02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:05,990
Like being like an influencer. Uh so
yes, so these were all covered, right?

6338
02:03:05,990 --> 02:03:06,000
yes, so these were all covered, right?
 

6339
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:07,669
yes, so these were all covered, right?
Okay. And I believe that the the one

6340
02:03:07,669 --> 02:03:07,679
Okay. And I believe that the the one
 

6341
02:03:07,679 --> 02:03:09,189
Okay. And I believe that the the one
that's helping you move was raised by

6342
02:03:09,189 --> 02:03:09,199
that's helping you move was raised by
 

6343
02:03:09,199 --> 02:03:11,589
that's helping you move was raised by
you. But another the other one that was

6344
02:03:11,589 --> 02:03:11,599
you. But another the other one that was
 

6345
02:03:11,599 --> 02:03:14,149
you. But another the other one that was
um for your health specifically was not

6346
02:03:14,149 --> 02:03:14,159
um for your health specifically was not
 

6347
02:03:14,159 --> 02:03:16,310
um for your health specifically was not
even set up by you. It was set up by

6348
02:03:16,310 --> 02:03:16,320
even set up by you. It was set up by
 

6349
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:17,910
even set up by you. It was set up by
Cameron. That's your Is that your

6350
02:03:17,910 --> 02:03:17,920
Cameron. That's your Is that your
 

6351
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:19,430
Cameron. That's your Is that your
current partner? Cuz you mentioned it,

6352
02:03:19,430 --> 02:03:19,440
current partner? Cuz you mentioned it,
 

6353
02:03:19,440 --> 02:03:22,550
current partner? Cuz you mentioned it,
Cam. It is. Okay. Yes, Cam. That is my

6354
02:03:22,550 --> 02:03:22,560
Cam. It is. Okay. Yes, Cam. That is my
 

6355
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:24,950
Cam. It is. Okay. Yes, Cam. That is my
current and he set that up. This was

6356
02:03:24,950 --> 02:03:24,960
current and he set that up. This was
 

6357
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:27,510
current and he set that up. This was
during this time where my health it just

6358
02:03:27,510 --> 02:03:27,520
during this time where my health it just
 

6359
02:03:27,520 --> 02:03:30,149
during this time where my health it just
kept getting worse, you know, after

6360
02:03:30,149 --> 02:03:30,159
kept getting worse, you know, after
 

6361
02:03:30,159 --> 02:03:31,910
kept getting worse, you know, after
after I like I developed an eating

6362
02:03:31,910 --> 02:03:31,920
after I like I developed an eating
 

6363
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:35,109
after I like I developed an eating
disorder and I was developing issues

6364
02:03:35,109 --> 02:03:35,119
disorder and I was developing issues
 

6365
02:03:35,119 --> 02:03:38,470
disorder and I was developing issues
from COVID and I I started having like a

6366
02:03:38,470 --> 02:03:38,480
from COVID and I I started having like a
 

6367
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:41,830
from COVID and I I started having like a
lot of complications. And so it was not

6368
02:03:41,830 --> 02:03:41,840
lot of complications. And so it was not
 

6369
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:44,950
lot of complications. And so it was not
easy dealing with getting the answers

6370
02:03:44,950 --> 02:03:44,960
easy dealing with getting the answers
 

6371
02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:46,790
easy dealing with getting the answers
for what was going on with my health

6372
02:03:46,790 --> 02:03:46,800
for what was going on with my health
 

6373
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:49,990
for what was going on with my health
because I I've been on Medicaid, you

6374
02:03:49,990 --> 02:03:50,000
because I I've been on Medicaid, you
 

6375
02:03:50,000 --> 02:03:52,709
because I I've been on Medicaid, you
know, the medical state insurance that

6376
02:03:52,709 --> 02:03:52,719
know, the medical state insurance that
 

6377
02:03:52,719 --> 02:03:54,870
know, the medical state insurance that
they, you know, that you're given and

6378
02:03:54,870 --> 02:03:54,880
they, you know, that you're given and
 

6379
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:56,870
they, you know, that you're given and
it's not terribly high quality. And

6380
02:03:56,870 --> 02:03:56,880
it's not terribly high quality. And
 

6381
02:03:56,880 --> 02:03:58,310
it's not terribly high quality. And
because of that, we weren't really able

6382
02:03:58,310 --> 02:03:58,320
because of that, we weren't really able
 

6383
02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:00,470
because of that, we weren't really able
to move forward. Every time we would

6384
02:04:00,470 --> 02:04:00,480
to move forward. Every time we would
 

6385
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:02,149
to move forward. Every time we would
say, "We need to see this specialist,"

6386
02:04:02,149 --> 02:04:02,159
say, "We need to see this specialist,"
 

6387
02:04:02,159 --> 02:04:04,390
say, "We need to see this specialist,"
you know, it would be, you know, a month

6388
02:04:04,390 --> 02:04:04,400
you know, it would be, you know, a month
 

6389
02:04:04,400 --> 02:04:06,229
you know, it would be, you know, a month
or two until we get the referral in the

6390
02:04:06,229 --> 02:04:06,239
or two until we get the referral in the
 

6391
02:04:06,239 --> 02:04:08,390
or two until we get the referral in the
mail. and just getting through that

6392
02:04:08,390 --> 02:04:08,400
mail. and just getting through that
 

6393
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:10,149
mail. and just getting through that
month or two just so we can get the

6394
02:04:10,149 --> 02:04:10,159
month or two just so we can get the
 

6395
02:04:10,159 --> 02:04:11,350
month or two just so we can get the
paper in the mail and then we have to

6396
02:04:11,350 --> 02:04:11,360
paper in the mail and then we have to
 

6397
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:12,790
paper in the mail and then we have to
set up an appointment and then we have

6398
02:04:12,790 --> 02:04:12,800
set up an appointment and then we have
 

6399
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:14,709
set up an appointment and then we have
to wait for the appointment and then we

6400
02:04:14,709 --> 02:04:14,719
to wait for the appointment and then we
 

6401
02:04:14,719 --> 02:04:16,149
to wait for the appointment and then we
have to go in and then we have to give

6402
02:04:16,149 --> 02:04:16,159
have to go in and then we have to give
 

6403
02:04:16,159 --> 02:04:17,910
have to go in and then we have to give
them all this information and then we

6404
02:04:17,910 --> 02:04:17,920
them all this information and then we
 

6405
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:20,709
them all this information and then we
have to run tests. So it just we weren't

6406
02:04:20,709 --> 02:04:20,719
have to run tests. So it just we weren't
 

6407
02:04:20,719 --> 02:04:22,550
have to run tests. So it just we weren't
getting anywhere and we just we had

6408
02:04:22,550 --> 02:04:22,560
getting anywhere and we just we had
 

6409
02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:25,109
getting anywhere and we just we had
gotten completely desperate of for help.

6410
02:04:25,109 --> 02:04:25,119
gotten completely desperate of for help.
 

6411
02:04:25,119 --> 02:04:28,070
gotten completely desperate of for help.
So Cam set that up to try to help give

6412
02:04:28,070 --> 02:04:28,080
So Cam set that up to try to help give
 

6413
02:04:28,080 --> 02:04:30,709
So Cam set that up to try to help give
us a fighting chance. And we've put all

6414
02:04:30,709 --> 02:04:30,719
us a fighting chance. And we've put all
 

6415
02:04:30,719 --> 02:04:33,270
us a fighting chance. And we've put all
of that money towards affording the

6416
02:04:33,270 --> 02:04:33,280
of that money towards affording the
 

6417
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:34,950
of that money towards affording the
medical bills, towards affording all of

6418
02:04:34,950 --> 02:04:34,960
medical bills, towards affording all of
 

6419
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:37,830
medical bills, towards affording all of
the lab work, all of the appointments,

6420
02:04:37,830 --> 02:04:37,840
the lab work, all of the appointments,
 

6421
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:39,510
the lab work, all of the appointments,
everything like that. And we've actually

6422
02:04:39,510 --> 02:04:39,520
everything like that. And we've actually
 

6423
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:41,270
everything like that. And we've actually
been very transparent in all of our

6424
02:04:41,270 --> 02:04:41,280
been very transparent in all of our
 

6425
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:43,430
been very transparent in all of our
updates about where the money is going

6426
02:04:43,430 --> 02:04:43,440
updates about where the money is going
 

6427
02:04:43,440 --> 02:04:47,350
updates about where the money is going
to. Mhm. And just because I'm curious,

6428
02:04:47,350 --> 02:04:47,360
to. Mhm. And just because I'm curious,
 

6429
02:04:47,360 --> 02:04:48,470
to. Mhm. And just because I'm curious,
right, because you said this was

6430
02:04:48,470 --> 02:04:48,480
right, because you said this was
 

6431
02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:50,310
right, because you said this was
something that was like COVID related or

6432
02:04:50,310 --> 02:04:50,320
something that was like COVID related or
 

6433
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:52,070
something that was like COVID related or
at least after the pandemic, can you

6434
02:04:52,070 --> 02:04:52,080
at least after the pandemic, can you
 

6435
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:55,030
at least after the pandemic, can you
kind of explain what um MCAS is because

6436
02:04:55,030 --> 02:04:55,040
kind of explain what um MCAS is because
 

6437
02:04:55,040 --> 02:04:56,870
kind of explain what um MCAS is because
I'm not familiar with what that is

6438
02:04:56,870 --> 02:04:56,880
I'm not familiar with what that is
 

6439
02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:58,790
I'm not familiar with what that is
personally. Uh I don't know if many

6440
02:04:58,790 --> 02:04:58,800
personally. Uh I don't know if many
 

6441
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:00,550
personally. Uh I don't know if many
people are. Uh I think it'd be good to

6442
02:05:00,550 --> 02:05:00,560
people are. Uh I think it'd be good to
 

6443
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:03,669
people are. Uh I think it'd be good to
kind of explain what that is real quick.

6444
02:05:03,669 --> 02:05:03,679
kind of explain what that is real quick.
 

6445
02:05:03,679 --> 02:05:06,470
kind of explain what that is real quick.
Yeah. So MCAS it's always been a thing

6446
02:05:06,470 --> 02:05:06,480
Yeah. So MCAS it's always been a thing
 

6447
02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:10,550
Yeah. So MCAS it's always been a thing
but it became much more known because of

6448
02:05:10,550 --> 02:05:10,560
but it became much more known because of
 

6449
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:13,430
but it became much more known because of
COVID because this is a it is literally

6450
02:05:13,430 --> 02:05:13,440
COVID because this is a it is literally
 

6451
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:15,990
COVID because this is a it is literally
a disregulation of your mass cells. So

6452
02:05:15,990 --> 02:05:16,000
a disregulation of your mass cells. So
 

6453
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:17,669
a disregulation of your mass cells. So
in your body you have mass cells

6454
02:05:17,669 --> 02:05:17,679
in your body you have mass cells
 

6455
02:05:17,679 --> 02:05:19,830
in your body you have mass cells
everywhere and your mass cells that is

6456
02:05:19,830 --> 02:05:19,840
everywhere and your mass cells that is
 

6457
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:21,830
everywhere and your mass cells that is
sort of what helps the body regulate and

6458
02:05:21,830 --> 02:05:21,840
sort of what helps the body regulate and
 

6459
02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:25,030
sort of what helps the body regulate and
handle um like histamine and like

6460
02:05:25,030 --> 02:05:25,040
handle um like histamine and like
 

6461
02:05:25,040 --> 02:05:26,950
handle um like histamine and like
allergic reactions. That's that's

6462
02:05:26,950 --> 02:05:26,960
allergic reactions. That's that's
 

6463
02:05:26,960 --> 02:05:29,109
allergic reactions. That's that's
everywhere in your body. So whenever you

6464
02:05:29,109 --> 02:05:29,119
everywhere in your body. So whenever you
 

6465
02:05:29,119 --> 02:05:30,550
everywhere in your body. So whenever you
know you're dealing with like a food

6466
02:05:30,550 --> 02:05:30,560
know you're dealing with like a food
 

6467
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:33,109
know you're dealing with like a food
allergy and if you are allergic to that

6468
02:05:33,109 --> 02:05:33,119
allergy and if you are allergic to that
 

6469
02:05:33,119 --> 02:05:35,189
allergy and if you are allergic to that
thing you know your mass cells react to

6470
02:05:35,189 --> 02:05:35,199
thing you know your mass cells react to
 

6471
02:05:35,199 --> 02:05:39,030
thing you know your mass cells react to
that thing. However with co this has

6472
02:05:39,030 --> 02:05:39,040
that thing. However with co this has
 

6473
02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:40,950
that thing. However with co this has
become a problem where there are a lot

6474
02:05:40,950 --> 02:05:40,960
become a problem where there are a lot
 

6475
02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:43,270
become a problem where there are a lot
of people who are now having

6476
02:05:43,270 --> 02:05:43,280
of people who are now having
 

6477
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:45,350
of people who are now having
disregulation with their mass cells and

6478
02:05:45,350 --> 02:05:45,360
disregulation with their mass cells and
 

6479
02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:47,109
disregulation with their mass cells and
now you're reacting to everything

6480
02:05:47,109 --> 02:05:47,119
now you're reacting to everything
 

6481
02:05:47,119 --> 02:05:49,109
now you're reacting to everything
inappropriately or at least a lot of

6482
02:05:49,109 --> 02:05:49,119
inappropriately or at least a lot of
 

6483
02:05:49,119 --> 02:05:51,990
inappropriately or at least a lot of
different things. For example for me I

6484
02:05:51,990 --> 02:05:52,000
different things. For example for me I
 

6485
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:54,709
different things. For example for me I
suddenly became allergic to cats. I

6486
02:05:54,709 --> 02:05:54,719
suddenly became allergic to cats. I
 

6487
02:05:54,719 --> 02:05:56,229
suddenly became allergic to cats. I
suddenly developed a bunch of new

6488
02:05:56,229 --> 02:05:56,239
suddenly developed a bunch of new
 

6489
02:05:56,239 --> 02:05:58,790
suddenly developed a bunch of new
seasonal issues. I I remember eating

6490
02:05:58,790 --> 02:05:58,800
seasonal issues. I I remember eating
 

6491
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:00,950
seasonal issues. I I remember eating
certain foods and I would have all kinds

6492
02:06:00,950 --> 02:06:00,960
certain foods and I would have all kinds
 

6493
02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:03,510
certain foods and I would have all kinds
of symptoms. I'd have racing heart, high

6494
02:06:03,510 --> 02:06:03,520
of symptoms. I'd have racing heart, high
 

6495
02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:05,510
of symptoms. I'd have racing heart, high
blood pressure, shortness of breath,

6496
02:06:05,510 --> 02:06:05,520
blood pressure, shortness of breath,
 

6497
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:08,390
blood pressure, shortness of breath,
hives, you know, rashes. I'd had I had a

6498
02:06:08,390 --> 02:06:08,400
hives, you know, rashes. I'd had I had a
 

6499
02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:10,709
hives, you know, rashes. I'd had I had a
skin uh condition that I had developed

6500
02:06:10,709 --> 02:06:10,719
skin uh condition that I had developed
 

6501
02:06:10,719 --> 02:06:14,310
skin uh condition that I had developed
from the MCAS. Um, and this was

6502
02:06:14,310 --> 02:06:14,320
from the MCAS. Um, and this was
 

6503
02:06:14,320 --> 02:06:16,790
from the MCAS. Um, and this was
something that was then I already had a

6504
02:06:16,790 --> 02:06:16,800
something that was then I already had a
 

6505
02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:19,910
something that was then I already had a
pre-existing eating disorder and it just

6506
02:06:19,910 --> 02:06:19,920
pre-existing eating disorder and it just
 

6507
02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:21,669
pre-existing eating disorder and it just
made the eating disorder get worse

6508
02:06:21,669 --> 02:06:21,679
made the eating disorder get worse
 

6509
02:06:21,679 --> 02:06:23,350
made the eating disorder get worse
because of that. Like I was already not

6510
02:06:23,350 --> 02:06:23,360
because of that. Like I was already not
 

6511
02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:25,830
because of that. Like I was already not
eating good and now I'm scared that

6512
02:06:25,830 --> 02:06:25,840
eating good and now I'm scared that
 

6513
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:27,589
eating good and now I'm scared that
foods are going to hurt me. So now I'm

6514
02:06:27,589 --> 02:06:27,599
foods are going to hurt me. So now I'm
 

6515
02:06:27,599 --> 02:06:29,990
foods are going to hurt me. So now I'm
eating even less. And you know that

6516
02:06:29,990 --> 02:06:30,000
eating even less. And you know that
 

6517
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:32,149
eating even less. And you know that
that's why we got so desperate. Like we

6518
02:06:32,149 --> 02:06:32,159
that's why we got so desperate. Like we
 

6519
02:06:32,159 --> 02:06:34,069
that's why we got so desperate. Like we
need help because we can't just sit here

6520
02:06:34,069 --> 02:06:34,079
need help because we can't just sit here
 

6521
02:06:34,079 --> 02:06:37,270
need help because we can't just sit here
and wait months while I'm just eating

6522
02:06:37,270 --> 02:06:37,280
and wait months while I'm just eating
 

6523
02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:39,750
and wait months while I'm just eating
chicken and rice. You know my my I'm

6524
02:06:39,750 --> 02:06:39,760
chicken and rice. You know my my I'm
 

6525
02:06:39,760 --> 02:06:41,270
chicken and rice. You know my my I'm
getting dehydrated because I'm not

6526
02:06:41,270 --> 02:06:41,280
getting dehydrated because I'm not
 

6527
02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:43,589
getting dehydrated because I'm not
eating good. I'm my electrolytes and all

6528
02:06:43,589 --> 02:06:43,599
eating good. I'm my electrolytes and all
 

6529
02:06:43,599 --> 02:06:45,990
eating good. I'm my electrolytes and all
of my nutritional values are are dipping

6530
02:06:45,990 --> 02:06:46,000
of my nutritional values are are dipping
 

6531
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:48,629
of my nutritional values are are dipping
and now I'm physically unable to do

6532
02:06:48,629 --> 02:06:48,639
and now I'm physically unable to do
 

6533
02:06:48,639 --> 02:06:50,790
and now I'm physically unable to do
certain things. Like I spend days

6534
02:06:50,790 --> 02:06:50,800
certain things. Like I spend days
 

6535
02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:53,589
certain things. Like I spend days
sometimes stuck in bed or I just have no

6536
02:06:53,589 --> 02:06:53,599
sometimes stuck in bed or I just have no
 

6537
02:06:53,599 --> 02:06:56,629
sometimes stuck in bed or I just have no
energy or my electrolytes will be so low

6538
02:06:56,629 --> 02:06:56,639
energy or my electrolytes will be so low
 

6539
02:06:56,639 --> 02:06:58,950
energy or my electrolytes will be so low
that there was even a point where my

6540
02:06:58,950 --> 02:06:58,960
that there was even a point where my
 

6541
02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:00,790
that there was even a point where my
potassium had dropped all the way down

6542
02:07:00,790 --> 02:07:00,800
potassium had dropped all the way down
 

6543
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:05,510
potassium had dropped all the way down
to 2.2 and my heart almost stopped. Mhm.

6544
02:07:05,510 --> 02:07:05,520
to 2.2 and my heart almost stopped. Mhm.
 

6545
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:09,430
to 2.2 and my heart almost stopped. Mhm.
like it's just that's MCS is horrible

6546
02:07:09,430 --> 02:07:09,440
like it's just that's MCS is horrible
 

6547
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:12,870
like it's just that's MCS is horrible
and it is become much more of a talked

6548
02:07:12,870 --> 02:07:12,880
and it is become much more of a talked
 

6549
02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:15,589
and it is become much more of a talked
about condition because now long COVID

6550
02:07:15,589 --> 02:07:15,599
about condition because now long COVID
 

6551
02:07:15,599 --> 02:07:18,229
about condition because now long COVID
or CO it's it's one of these causes and

6552
02:07:18,229 --> 02:07:18,239
or CO it's it's one of these causes and
 

6553
02:07:18,239 --> 02:07:20,390
or CO it's it's one of these causes and
that's what we were asking we've been

6554
02:07:20,390 --> 02:07:20,400
that's what we were asking we've been
 

6555
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:22,550
that's what we were asking we've been
asking for help to help us kind of work

6556
02:07:22,550 --> 02:07:22,560
asking for help to help us kind of work
 

6557
02:07:22,560 --> 02:07:25,149
asking for help to help us kind of work
through this right that sounds [\h__\h]

6558
02:07:25,149 --> 02:07:25,159
through this right that sounds [\h__\h]
 

6559
02:07:25,159 --> 02:07:28,149
through this right that sounds [\h__\h]
terrifying Jesus it's horrifying yeah

6560
02:07:28,149 --> 02:07:28,159
terrifying Jesus it's horrifying yeah
 

6561
02:07:28,159 --> 02:07:30,709
terrifying Jesus it's horrifying yeah
it's it's really scary we've been you

6562
02:07:30,709 --> 02:07:30,719
it's it's really scary we've been you
 

6563
02:07:30,719 --> 02:07:31,910
it's it's really scary we've been you
know we've been making really good

6564
02:07:31,910 --> 02:07:31,920
know we've been making really good
 

6565
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:35,830
know we've been making really good
strides like I was down to like 79 9 lbs

6566
02:07:35,830 --> 02:07:35,840
strides like I was down to like 79 9 lbs
 

6567
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:38,790
strides like I was down to like 79 9 lbs
like in the fall, but I'm kind of moving

6568
02:07:38,790 --> 02:07:38,800
like in the fall, but I'm kind of moving
 

6569
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:40,790
like in the fall, but I'm kind of moving
back up a little bit. I'm I've added

6570
02:07:40,790 --> 02:07:40,800
back up a little bit. I'm I've added
 

6571
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:42,390
back up a little bit. I'm I've added
some more foods. I'm eating like

6572
02:07:42,390 --> 02:07:42,400
some more foods. I'm eating like
 

6573
02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:44,310
some more foods. I'm eating like
potatoes now again, and I'm really happy

6574
02:07:44,310 --> 02:07:44,320
potatoes now again, and I'm really happy
 

6575
02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:45,830
potatoes now again, and I'm really happy
about that because oh my god, chicken

6576
02:07:45,830 --> 02:07:45,840
about that because oh my god, chicken
 

6577
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:49,109
about that because oh my god, chicken
and rice for months. It tastes like Oh,

6578
02:07:49,109 --> 02:07:49,119
and rice for months. It tastes like Oh,
 

6579
02:07:49,119 --> 02:07:51,350
and rice for months. It tastes like Oh,
[\h__\h] I mean, I make a pretty good like

6580
02:07:51,350 --> 02:07:51,360
[\h__\h] I mean, I make a pretty good like
 

6581
02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:53,189
[\h__\h] I mean, I make a pretty good like
honey butter garlic chicken on rice. But

6582
02:07:53,189 --> 02:07:53,199
honey butter garlic chicken on rice. But
 

6583
02:07:53,199 --> 02:07:55,030
honey butter garlic chicken on rice. But
that's like variety, you know? It makes

6584
02:07:55,030 --> 02:07:55,040
that's like variety, you know? It makes
 

6585
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:56,709
that's like variety, you know? It makes
the chicken taste different at least,

6586
02:07:56,709 --> 02:07:56,719
the chicken taste different at least,
 

6587
02:07:56,719 --> 02:07:58,950
the chicken taste different at least,
right? You know, but if it were just

6588
02:07:58,950 --> 02:07:58,960
right? You know, but if it were just
 

6589
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:02,229
right? You know, but if it were just
plain chicken on rice. Oh, god. Girl,

6590
02:08:02,229 --> 02:08:02,239
plain chicken on rice. Oh, god. Girl,
 

6591
02:08:02,239 --> 02:08:05,910
plain chicken on rice. Oh, god. Girl,
I'm sorry. God damn. Yeah, it's gross.

6592
02:08:05,910 --> 02:08:05,920
I'm sorry. God damn. Yeah, it's gross.
 

6593
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:09,030
I'm sorry. God damn. Yeah, it's gross.
You got to season your meats, man.

6594
02:08:09,030 --> 02:08:09,040
You got to season your meats, man.
 

6595
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:12,149
You got to season your meats, man.
I want to Oh my god. I Trust me, I'm

6596
02:08:12,149 --> 02:08:12,159
I want to Oh my god. I Trust me, I'm
 

6597
02:08:12,159 --> 02:08:15,270
I want to Oh my god. I Trust me, I'm
eating I'm eating like the stereotypical

6598
02:08:15,270 --> 02:08:15,280
eating I'm eating like the stereotypical
 

6599
02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:17,189
eating I'm eating like the stereotypical
white person, but I don't want to eat. I

6600
02:08:17,189 --> 02:08:17,199
white person, but I don't want to eat. I
 

6601
02:08:17,199 --> 02:08:21,069
white person, but I don't want to eat. I
I want my spices. Dear

6602
02:08:21,069 --> 02:08:21,079
I want my spices. Dear
 

6603
02:08:21,079 --> 02:08:24,870
I want my spices. Dear
lord. Oh god. Honestly, that's why I

6604
02:08:24,870 --> 02:08:24,880
lord. Oh god. Honestly, that's why I
 

6605
02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:26,870
lord. Oh god. Honestly, that's why I
overspice now cuz I've been told that I

6606
02:08:26,870 --> 02:08:26,880
overspice now cuz I've been told that I
 

6607
02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:28,550
overspice now cuz I've been told that I
like cuz some I don't know if this was a

6608
02:08:28,550 --> 02:08:28,560
like cuz some I don't know if this was a
 

6609
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:29,830
like cuz some I don't know if this was a
thing, but people are like, "Don't spice

6610
02:08:29,830 --> 02:08:29,840
thing, but people are like, "Don't spice
 

6611
02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:30,870
thing, but people are like, "Don't spice
your meat like a white person." I'm

6612
02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:30,880
your meat like a white person." I'm
 

6613
02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:32,390
your meat like a white person." I'm
like, "What does that mean?" And then I

6614
02:08:32,390 --> 02:08:32,400
like, "What does that mean?" And then I
 

6615
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:34,550
like, "What does that mean?" And then I
searched it up. like, "Oh, you know

6616
02:08:34,550 --> 02:08:34,560
searched it up. like, "Oh, you know
 

6617
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:36,550
searched it up. like, "Oh, you know
what? Maybe that's why I've never liked

6618
02:08:36,550 --> 02:08:36,560
what? Maybe that's why I've never liked
 

6619
02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:38,430
what? Maybe that's why I've never liked
chicken, cuz that [\h__\h] was always so

6620
02:08:38,430 --> 02:08:38,440
chicken, cuz that [\h__\h] was always so
 

6621
02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:40,629
chicken, cuz that [\h__\h] was always so
bland." And now chicken tastes great to

6622
02:08:40,629 --> 02:08:40,639
bland." And now chicken tastes great to
 

6623
02:08:40,639 --> 02:08:42,229
bland." And now chicken tastes great to
me now. So, I'm just like, "That's cuz I

6624
02:08:42,229 --> 02:08:42,239
me now. So, I'm just like, "That's cuz I
 

6625
02:08:42,239 --> 02:08:44,750
me now. So, I'm just like, "That's cuz I
season it correctly. I know how to cook

6626
02:08:44,750 --> 02:08:44,760
season it correctly. I know how to cook
 

6627
02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:49,990
season it correctly. I know how to cook
things." So, yeah, we love that. Um, so

6628
02:08:49,990 --> 02:08:50,000
things." So, yeah, we love that. Um, so
 

6629
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:52,069
things." So, yeah, we love that. Um, so
in terms of like people like trying to

6630
02:08:52,069 --> 02:08:52,079
in terms of like people like trying to
 

6631
02:08:52,079 --> 02:08:55,270
in terms of like people like trying to
talk about the whole GoFundMe stuff, uh,

6632
02:08:55,270 --> 02:08:55,280
talk about the whole GoFundMe stuff, uh,
 

6633
02:08:55,280 --> 02:08:56,870
talk about the whole GoFundMe stuff, uh,
considering it scam stuff, which I don't

6634
02:08:56,870 --> 02:08:56,880
considering it scam stuff, which I don't
 

6635
02:08:56,880 --> 02:08:58,629
considering it scam stuff, which I don't
think is if you're not if you're not

6636
02:08:58,629 --> 02:08:58,639
think is if you're not if you're not
 

6637
02:08:58,639 --> 02:09:00,950
think is if you're not if you're not
paying towards these trips and they're

6638
02:09:00,950 --> 02:09:00,960
paying towards these trips and they're
 

6639
02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:03,589
paying towards these trips and they're
all invite stuff, then like obviously

6640
02:09:03,589 --> 02:09:03,599
all invite stuff, then like obviously
 

6641
02:09:03,599 --> 02:09:06,629
all invite stuff, then like obviously
that's, you know, not where the money is

6642
02:09:06,629 --> 02:09:06,639
that's, you know, not where the money is
 

6643
02:09:06,639 --> 02:09:08,709
that's, you know, not where the money is
going and coming from. So that's great

6644
02:09:08,709 --> 02:09:08,719
going and coming from. So that's great
 

6645
02:09:08,719 --> 02:09:11,030
going and coming from. So that's great
to know. But there was somebody who was

6646
02:09:11,030 --> 02:09:11,040
to know. But there was somebody who was
 

6647
02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:12,950
to know. But there was somebody who was
like asking about like how you're able

6648
02:09:12,950 --> 02:09:12,960
like asking about like how you're able
 

6649
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:15,030
like asking about like how you're able
to afford the trips. Um, it's a I'll

6650
02:09:15,030 --> 02:09:15,040
to afford the trips. Um, it's a I'll
 

6651
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:16,470
to afford the trips. Um, it's a I'll
read the tweet itself. It says, "I'm

6652
02:09:16,470 --> 02:09:16,480
read the tweet itself. It says, "I'm
 

6653
02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:18,709
read the tweet itself. It says, "I'm
curious. How do you afford such a trip,

6654
02:09:18,709 --> 02:09:18,719
curious. How do you afford such a trip,
 

6655
02:09:18,719 --> 02:09:20,950
curious. How do you afford such a trip,
might I ask? I'm very curious given the

6656
02:09:20,950 --> 02:09:20,960
might I ask? I'm very curious given the
 

6657
02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:22,870
might I ask? I'm very curious given the
fact you're so depressed and filled with

6658
02:09:22,870 --> 02:09:22,880
fact you're so depressed and filled with
 

6659
02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:24,709
fact you're so depressed and filled with
anxiety and blame Sonic for the lack of

6660
02:09:24,709 --> 02:09:24,719
anxiety and blame Sonic for the lack of
 

6661
02:09:24,719 --> 02:09:27,350
anxiety and blame Sonic for the lack of
good games in 10 years. Unfortunately,

6662
02:09:27,350 --> 02:09:27,360
good games in 10 years. Unfortunately,
 

6663
02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:29,510
good games in 10 years. Unfortunately,
most like most tweets, you delete them

6664
02:09:29,510 --> 02:09:29,520
most like most tweets, you delete them
 

6665
02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:31,990
most like most tweets, you delete them
when the flies get heated. Uh, and of

6666
02:09:31,990 --> 02:09:32,000
when the flies get heated. Uh, and of
 

6667
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:33,109
when the flies get heated. Uh, and of
course, you were talking about how that

6668
02:09:33,109 --> 02:09:33,119
course, you were talking about how that
 

6669
02:09:33,119 --> 02:09:36,149
course, you were talking about how that
tweet was sarcastic. Uh, and how you uh,

6670
02:09:36,149 --> 02:09:36,159
tweet was sarcastic. Uh, and how you uh,
 

6671
02:09:36,159 --> 02:09:38,629
tweet was sarcastic. Uh, and how you uh,
you know, take care of your depression

6672
02:09:38,629 --> 02:09:38,639
you know, take care of your depression
 

6673
02:09:38,639 --> 02:09:39,830
you know, take care of your depression
and your health is none of anybody

6674
02:09:39,830 --> 02:09:39,840
and your health is none of anybody
 

6675
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:41,189
and your health is none of anybody
else's business, which I agree, you

6676
02:09:41,189 --> 02:09:41,199
else's business, which I agree, you
 

6677
02:09:41,199 --> 02:09:43,830
else's business, which I agree, you
know, whatever. Well, I I guess people

6678
02:09:43,830 --> 02:09:43,840
know, whatever. Well, I I guess people
 

6679
02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:45,510
know, whatever. Well, I I guess people
have been accusing you because of this

6680
02:09:45,510 --> 02:09:45,520
have been accusing you because of this
 

6681
02:09:45,520 --> 02:09:47,870
have been accusing you because of this
of like faking certain mental health

6682
02:09:47,870 --> 02:09:47,880
of like faking certain mental health
 

6683
02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:50,470
of like faking certain mental health
stuff. Could you kind of explain like

6684
02:09:50,470 --> 02:09:50,480
stuff. Could you kind of explain like
 

6685
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:54,149
stuff. Could you kind of explain like
what this interaction was? Like what?

6686
02:09:54,149 --> 02:09:54,159
what this interaction was? Like what?
 

6687
02:09:54,159 --> 02:09:56,950
what this interaction was? Like what?
Oh, yeah. Happily. Sure. Happily, please

6688
02:09:56,950 --> 02:09:56,960
Oh, yeah. Happily. Sure. Happily, please
 

6689
02:09:56,960 --> 02:09:59,189
Oh, yeah. Happily. Sure. Happily, please
do. Um I'm going to go ahead and I'm

6690
02:09:59,189 --> 02:09:59,199
do. Um I'm going to go ahead and I'm
 

6691
02:09:59,199 --> 02:10:01,350
do. Um I'm going to go ahead and I'm
going to point out that the person who

6692
02:10:01,350 --> 02:10:01,360
going to point out that the person who
 

6693
02:10:01,360 --> 02:10:03,910
going to point out that the person who
did this, he is another infamous figure

6694
02:10:03,910 --> 02:10:03,920
did this, he is another infamous figure
 

6695
02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:07,510
did this, he is another infamous figure
in the community. Known for causing

6696
02:10:07,510 --> 02:10:07,520
in the community. Known for causing
 

6697
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:10,149
in the community. Known for causing
problems. Go. He goes by Zealous Fox.

6698
02:10:10,149 --> 02:10:10,159
problems. Go. He goes by Zealous Fox.
 

6699
02:10:10,159 --> 02:10:13,189
problems. Go. He goes by Zealous Fox.
Um, and this is, you know, there is an

6700
02:10:13,189 --> 02:10:13,199
Um, and this is, you know, there is an
 

6701
02:10:13,199 --> 02:10:16,069
Um, and this is, you know, there is an
entire thread that somebody made that

6702
02:10:16,069 --> 02:10:16,079
entire thread that somebody made that
 

6703
02:10:16,079 --> 02:10:18,629
entire thread that somebody made that
documents every single time this guy has

6704
02:10:18,629 --> 02:10:18,639
documents every single time this guy has
 

6705
02:10:18,639 --> 02:10:21,270
documents every single time this guy has
tried like just harassing me. And this

6706
02:10:21,270 --> 02:10:21,280
tried like just harassing me. And this
 

6707
02:10:21,280 --> 02:10:23,510
tried like just harassing me. And this
thread, if I remember, this was like a

6708
02:10:23,510 --> 02:10:23,520
thread, if I remember, this was like a
 

6709
02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:26,470
thread, if I remember, this was like a
30 30 tweet thread. It just goes over

6710
02:10:26,470 --> 02:10:26,480
30 30 tweet thread. It just goes over
 

6711
02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:28,629
30 30 tweet thread. It just goes over
everything. And that's where this came

6712
02:10:28,629 --> 02:10:28,639
everything. And that's where this came
 

6713
02:10:28,639 --> 02:10:32,709
everything. And that's where this came
from. Um, initially I had tweeted uh it

6714
02:10:32,709 --> 02:10:32,719
from. Um, initially I had tweeted uh it
 

6715
02:10:32,719 --> 02:10:34,629
from. Um, initially I had tweeted uh it
was an anniversary for Sonic and the

6716
02:10:34,629 --> 02:10:34,639
was an anniversary for Sonic and the
 

6717
02:10:34,639 --> 02:10:36,310
was an anniversary for Sonic and the
Black Knight, which was one of my

6718
02:10:36,310 --> 02:10:36,320
Black Knight, which was one of my
 

6719
02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:38,790
Black Knight, which was one of my
favorite games. uh not like one of the

6720
02:10:38,790 --> 02:10:38,800
favorite games. uh not like one of the
 

6721
02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:40,390
favorite games. uh not like one of the
best games, but it was it was a good

6722
02:10:40,390 --> 02:10:40,400
best games, but it was it was a good
 

6723
02:10:40,400 --> 02:10:43,109
best games, but it was it was a good
game. I liked it. And uh I made a joke

6724
02:10:43,109 --> 02:10:43,119
game. I liked it. And uh I made a joke
 

6725
02:10:43,119 --> 02:10:45,589
game. I liked it. And uh I made a joke
saying like, "Oh, like happy 10 years to

6726
02:10:45,589 --> 02:10:45,599
saying like, "Oh, like happy 10 years to
 

6727
02:10:45,599 --> 02:10:47,270
saying like, "Oh, like happy 10 years to
Sonic and the Black Knight. It's no

6728
02:10:47,270 --> 02:10:47,280
Sonic and the Black Knight. It's no
 

6729
02:10:47,280 --> 02:10:48,950
Sonic and the Black Knight. It's no
wonder I have depression because like

6730
02:10:48,950 --> 02:10:48,960
wonder I have depression because like
 

6731
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:50,229
wonder I have depression because like
you know, we haven't had a good Sonic

6732
02:10:50,229 --> 02:10:50,239
you know, we haven't had a good Sonic
 

6733
02:10:50,239 --> 02:10:52,709
you know, we haven't had a good Sonic
game in 10 years." And I was just being

6734
02:10:52,709 --> 02:10:52,719
game in 10 years." And I was just being
 

6735
02:10:52,719 --> 02:10:54,870
game in 10 years." And I was just being
funny or you know, it was hyperbole.

6736
02:10:54,870 --> 02:10:54,880
funny or you know, it was hyperbole.
 

6737
02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:57,270
funny or you know, it was hyperbole.
Yeah. Um and then Zealous, you know,

6738
02:10:57,270 --> 02:10:57,280
Yeah. Um and then Zealous, you know,
 

6739
02:10:57,280 --> 02:10:59,990
Yeah. Um and then Zealous, you know,
who's under the replies, you know,

6740
02:10:59,990 --> 02:11:00,000
who's under the replies, you know,
 

6741
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:01,669
who's under the replies, you know,
giving me a lot of trouble for making

6742
02:11:01,669 --> 02:11:01,679
giving me a lot of trouble for making
 

6743
02:11:01,679 --> 02:11:04,149
giving me a lot of trouble for making
that joke. And that's what he makes a

6744
02:11:04,149 --> 02:11:04,159
that joke. And that's what he makes a
 

6745
02:11:04,159 --> 02:11:05,589
that joke. And that's what he makes a
comment about me deleting it. I deleted

6746
02:11:05,589 --> 02:11:05,599
comment about me deleting it. I deleted
 

6747
02:11:05,599 --> 02:11:06,790
comment about me deleting it. I deleted
it because I didn't want to have any

6748
02:11:06,790 --> 02:11:06,800
it because I didn't want to have any
 

6749
02:11:06,800 --> 02:11:08,229
it because I didn't want to have any
conflict. I'm like, "Oh, well, if it's,

6750
02:11:08,229 --> 02:11:08,239
conflict. I'm like, "Oh, well, if it's,
 

6751
02:11:08,239 --> 02:11:09,430
conflict. I'm like, "Oh, well, if it's,
you know, there's going to be conflict.

6752
02:11:09,430 --> 02:11:09,440
you know, there's going to be conflict.
 

6753
02:11:09,440 --> 02:11:11,430
you know, there's going to be conflict.
I don't I don't really want to cause any

6754
02:11:11,430 --> 02:11:11,440
I don't I don't really want to cause any
 

6755
02:11:11,440 --> 02:11:12,870
I don't I don't really want to cause any
issue. I was just trying to make a funny

6756
02:11:12,870 --> 02:11:12,880
issue. I was just trying to make a funny
 

6757
02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:14,390
issue. I was just trying to make a funny
joke at the expense of my own mental

6758
02:11:14,390 --> 02:11:14,400
joke at the expense of my own mental
 

6759
02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:17,189
joke at the expense of my own mental
health." Um, but then yes, it did wind

6760
02:11:17,189 --> 02:11:17,199
health." Um, but then yes, it did wind
 

6761
02:11:17,199 --> 02:11:19,830
health." Um, but then yes, it did wind
up turning into this tweet where he is

6762
02:11:19,830 --> 02:11:19,840
up turning into this tweet where he is
 

6763
02:11:19,840 --> 02:11:21,750
up turning into this tweet where he is
accusing me of, you're right, faking

6764
02:11:21,750 --> 02:11:21,760
accusing me of, you're right, faking
 

6765
02:11:21,760 --> 02:11:23,550
accusing me of, you're right, faking
like my depression and

6766
02:11:23,550 --> 02:11:23,560
like my depression and
 

6767
02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:26,310
like my depression and
anxiety. And I don't know how else to

6768
02:11:26,310 --> 02:11:26,320
anxiety. And I don't know how else to
 

6769
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:29,350
anxiety. And I don't know how else to
explain that. I I would not do that. I

6770
02:11:29,350 --> 02:11:29,360
explain that. I I would not do that. I
 

6771
02:11:29,360 --> 02:11:31,990
explain that. I I would not do that. I
have evidence of this. I was diagnosed

6772
02:11:31,990 --> 02:11:32,000
have evidence of this. I was diagnosed
 

6773
02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:33,870
have evidence of this. I was diagnosed
with depression in

6774
02:11:33,870 --> 02:11:33,880
with depression in
 

6775
02:11:33,880 --> 02:11:37,189
with depression in
2009 where I was hospitalized for over a

6776
02:11:37,189 --> 02:11:37,199
2009 where I was hospitalized for over a
 

6777
02:11:37,199 --> 02:11:39,669
2009 where I was hospitalized for over a
week. Actually, I had to stay in a

6778
02:11:39,669 --> 02:11:39,679
week. Actually, I had to stay in a
 

6779
02:11:39,679 --> 02:11:41,350
week. Actually, I had to stay in a
hospital because of the depression

6780
02:11:41,350 --> 02:11:41,360
hospital because of the depression
 

6781
02:11:41,360 --> 02:11:44,990
hospital because of the depression
because it had gotten that bad. Um, and

6782
02:11:44,990 --> 02:11:45,000
because it had gotten that bad. Um, and
 

6783
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:48,629
because it had gotten that bad. Um, and
I developed anxiety after I gave birth

6784
02:11:48,629 --> 02:11:48,639
I developed anxiety after I gave birth
 

6785
02:11:48,639 --> 02:11:52,470
I developed anxiety after I gave birth
to my kid. And, uh, I developed PTSD and

6786
02:11:52,470 --> 02:11:52,480
to my kid. And, uh, I developed PTSD and
 

6787
02:11:52,480 --> 02:11:55,510
to my kid. And, uh, I developed PTSD and
anxiety disorder and panic disorder. And

6788
02:11:55,510 --> 02:11:55,520
anxiety disorder and panic disorder. And
 

6789
02:11:55,520 --> 02:11:59,750
anxiety disorder and panic disorder. And
um this you know me making these jokes

6790
02:11:59,750 --> 02:11:59,760
um this you know me making these jokes
 

6791
02:11:59,760 --> 02:12:02,069
um this you know me making these jokes
you know it just at the expense of

6792
02:12:02,069 --> 02:12:02,079
you know it just at the expense of
 

6793
02:12:02,079 --> 02:12:03,910
you know it just at the expense of
myself because you know these were kind

6794
02:12:03,910 --> 02:12:03,920
myself because you know these were kind
 

6795
02:12:03,920 --> 02:12:05,830
myself because you know these were kind
of prevalent jokes around this point

6796
02:12:05,830 --> 02:12:05,840
of prevalent jokes around this point
 

6797
02:12:05,840 --> 02:12:07,510
of prevalent jokes around this point
where people are making jokes about that

6798
02:12:07,510 --> 02:12:07,520
where people are making jokes about that
 

6799
02:12:07,520 --> 02:12:09,589
where people are making jokes about that
like I made another tweet where I said

6800
02:12:09,589 --> 02:12:09,599
like I made another tweet where I said
 

6801
02:12:09,599 --> 02:12:11,990
like I made another tweet where I said
like you know Sonic Mania has cured my

6802
02:12:11,990 --> 02:12:12,000
like you know Sonic Mania has cured my
 

6803
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:13,830
like you know Sonic Mania has cured my
depression or whatever. Um it's

6804
02:12:13,830 --> 02:12:13,840
depression or whatever. Um it's
 

6805
02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:16,709
depression or whatever. Um it's
hyperbole obviously but some people you

6806
02:12:16,709 --> 02:12:16,719
hyperbole obviously but some people you
 

6807
02:12:16,719 --> 02:12:19,510
hyperbole obviously but some people you
know are not able to read that sarcasm.

6808
02:12:19,510 --> 02:12:19,520
know are not able to read that sarcasm.
 

6809
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:23,270
know are not able to read that sarcasm.
Mhm. Um, and it did spiral out of

6810
02:12:23,270 --> 02:12:23,280
Mhm. Um, and it did spiral out of
 

6811
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:26,390
Mhm. Um, and it did spiral out of
control and cause people to then uh, I

6812
02:12:26,390 --> 02:12:26,400
control and cause people to then uh, I
 

6813
02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:28,629
control and cause people to then uh, I
guess accuse me of just faking all of my

6814
02:12:28,629 --> 02:12:28,639
guess accuse me of just faking all of my
 

6815
02:12:28,639 --> 02:12:30,390
guess accuse me of just faking all of my
health issues and faking my mental

6816
02:12:30,390 --> 02:12:30,400
health issues and faking my mental
 

6817
02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:33,030
health issues and faking my mental
health issues. But, I mean, I I've got

6818
02:12:33,030 --> 02:12:33,040
health issues. But, I mean, I I've got
 

6819
02:12:33,040 --> 02:12:34,669
health issues. But, I mean, I I've got
all of the

6820
02:12:34,669 --> 02:12:34,679
all of the
 

6821
02:12:34,679 --> 02:12:36,709
all of the
diagnosises, you know, I've got all of

6822
02:12:36,709 --> 02:12:36,719
diagnosises, you know, I've got all of
 

6823
02:12:36,719 --> 02:12:39,350
diagnosises, you know, I've got all of
them and I have every all the labs to

6824
02:12:39,350 --> 02:12:39,360
them and I have every all the labs to
 

6825
02:12:39,360 --> 02:12:41,109
them and I have every all the labs to
back up everything and, you know, but

6826
02:12:41,109 --> 02:12:41,119
back up everything and, you know, but
 

6827
02:12:41,119 --> 02:12:42,550
back up everything and, you know, but
these are just a lot of these people,

6828
02:12:42,550 --> 02:12:42,560
these are just a lot of these people,
 

6829
02:12:42,560 --> 02:12:45,270
these are just a lot of these people,
they're just speaking on this because,

6830
02:12:45,270 --> 02:12:45,280
they're just speaking on this because,
 

6831
02:12:45,280 --> 02:12:47,109
they're just speaking on this because,
you know, these are people who they

6832
02:12:47,109 --> 02:12:47,119
you know, these are people who they
 

6833
02:12:47,119 --> 02:12:49,430
you know, these are people who they
don't like me. Zealous. Again, there is

6834
02:12:49,430 --> 02:12:49,440
don't like me. Zealous. Again, there is
 

6835
02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:52,310
don't like me. Zealous. Again, there is
a thread that I can, you know, link or

6836
02:12:52,310 --> 02:12:52,320
a thread that I can, you know, link or
 

6837
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:54,790
a thread that I can, you know, link or
whatever. And it's just this this guy

6838
02:12:54,790 --> 02:12:54,800
whatever. And it's just this this guy
 

6839
02:12:54,800 --> 02:12:56,870
whatever. And it's just this this guy
used to be friends with Blue-Eyed Fox.

6840
02:12:56,870 --> 02:12:56,880
used to be friends with Blue-Eyed Fox.
 

6841
02:12:56,880 --> 02:12:59,270
used to be friends with Blue-Eyed Fox.
And there's your connection there, you

6842
02:12:59,270 --> 02:12:59,280
And there's your connection there, you
 

6843
02:12:59,280 --> 02:13:01,990
And there's your connection there, you
know, another name coming back up. Yeah.

6844
02:13:01,990 --> 02:13:02,000
know, another name coming back up. Yeah.
 

6845
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:03,990
know, another name coming back up. Yeah.
Yeah. And that's where a lot of these

6846
02:13:03,990 --> 02:13:04,000
Yeah. And that's where a lot of these
 

6847
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:06,870
Yeah. And that's where a lot of these
accusations then came from was Zealous

6848
02:13:06,870 --> 02:13:06,880
accusations then came from was Zealous
 

6849
02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:08,390
accusations then came from was Zealous
not liking me because he's friends with

6850
02:13:08,390 --> 02:13:08,400
not liking me because he's friends with
 

6851
02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:11,030
not liking me because he's friends with
Blueeyed. And then that was something

6852
02:13:11,030 --> 02:13:11,040
Blueeyed. And then that was something
 

6853
02:13:11,040 --> 02:13:12,950
Blueeyed. And then that was something
that was tweeted and then other people

6854
02:13:12,950 --> 02:13:12,960
that was tweeted and then other people
 

6855
02:13:12,960 --> 02:13:14,310
that was tweeted and then other people
were or you know they have their own

6856
02:13:14,310 --> 02:13:14,320
were or you know they have their own
 

6857
02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:15,910
were or you know they have their own
thing or whatever they're latching on to

6858
02:13:15,910 --> 02:13:15,920
thing or whatever they're latching on to
 

6859
02:13:15,920 --> 02:13:17,750
thing or whatever they're latching on to
this and now people are running with it

6860
02:13:17,750 --> 02:13:17,760
this and now people are running with it
 

6861
02:13:17,760 --> 02:13:20,709
this and now people are running with it
and I've had to then prove this. There

6862
02:13:20,709 --> 02:13:20,719
and I've had to then prove this. There
 

6863
02:13:20,719 --> 02:13:22,470
and I've had to then prove this. There
are times where I've had to literally

6864
02:13:22,470 --> 02:13:22,480
are times where I've had to literally
 

6865
02:13:22,480 --> 02:13:26,069
are times where I've had to literally
prove uh my illnesses. There was this

6866
02:13:26,069 --> 02:13:26,079
prove uh my illnesses. There was this
 

6867
02:13:26,079 --> 02:13:28,709
prove uh my illnesses. There was this
girl who was friends with Lizzy who

6868
02:13:28,709 --> 02:13:28,719
girl who was friends with Lizzy who
 

6869
02:13:28,719 --> 02:13:32,550
girl who was friends with Lizzy who
actually helped Lizzy uh dox me and do

6870
02:13:32,550 --> 02:13:32,560
actually helped Lizzy uh dox me and do
 

6871
02:13:32,560 --> 02:13:34,310
actually helped Lizzy uh dox me and do
all of the swatting. this this girl

6872
02:13:34,310 --> 02:13:34,320
all of the swatting. this this girl
 

6873
02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:37,030
all of the swatting. this this girl
literally like admitted this. Um, and

6874
02:13:37,030 --> 02:13:37,040
literally like admitted this. Um, and
 

6875
02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:39,750
literally like admitted this. Um, and
she attempted to try to claim that I

6876
02:13:39,750 --> 02:13:39,760
she attempted to try to claim that I
 

6877
02:13:39,760 --> 02:13:42,310
she attempted to try to claim that I
didn't have like OCD, which is another

6878
02:13:42,310 --> 02:13:42,320
didn't have like OCD, which is another
 

6879
02:13:42,320 --> 02:13:44,709
didn't have like OCD, which is another
thing that I I deal with and it caused

6880
02:13:44,709 --> 02:13:44,719
thing that I I deal with and it caused
 

6881
02:13:44,719 --> 02:13:47,430
thing that I I deal with and it caused
me to have to literally post my the

6882
02:13:47,430 --> 02:13:47,440
me to have to literally post my the
 

6883
02:13:47,440 --> 02:13:49,350
me to have to literally post my the
proof that I was diagnosed for it. It's

6884
02:13:49,350 --> 02:13:49,360
proof that I was diagnosed for it. It's
 

6885
02:13:49,360 --> 02:13:52,229
proof that I was diagnosed for it. It's
just it is strange, but it is a common

6886
02:13:52,229 --> 02:13:52,239
just it is strange, but it is a common
 

6887
02:13:52,239 --> 02:13:55,189
just it is strange, but it is a common
thing that I get even though I have all

6888
02:13:55,189 --> 02:13:55,199
thing that I get even though I have all
 

6889
02:13:55,199 --> 02:13:58,390
thing that I get even though I have all
of the the medical papers to back them

6890
02:13:58,390 --> 02:13:58,400
of the the medical papers to back them
 

6891
02:13:58,400 --> 02:14:00,709
of the the medical papers to back them
up. But I will say that, you know,

6892
02:14:00,709 --> 02:14:00,719
up. But I will say that, you know,
 

6893
02:14:00,719 --> 02:14:02,229
up. But I will say that, you know,
there's a connection between all of them

6894
02:14:02,229 --> 02:14:02,239
there's a connection between all of them
 

6895
02:14:02,239 --> 02:14:04,709
there's a connection between all of them
because these are all people who are

6896
02:14:04,709 --> 02:14:04,719
because these are all people who are
 

6897
02:14:04,719 --> 02:14:07,030
because these are all people who are
friends or, you know, know each other.

6898
02:14:07,030 --> 02:14:07,040
friends or, you know, know each other.
 

6899
02:14:07,040 --> 02:14:08,950
friends or, you know, know each other.
And that's where this has sort of come

6900
02:14:08,950 --> 02:14:08,960
And that's where this has sort of come
 

6901
02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:11,270
And that's where this has sort of come
from is like that group of like people

6902
02:14:11,270 --> 02:14:11,280
from is like that group of like people
 

6903
02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:13,830
from is like that group of like people
like Blue-Eyed and and like Lizzy and

6904
02:14:13,830 --> 02:14:13,840
like Blue-Eyed and and like Lizzy and
 

6905
02:14:13,840 --> 02:14:15,830
like Blue-Eyed and and like Lizzy and
like Zealous and, you know, that other

6906
02:14:15,830 --> 02:14:15,840
like Zealous and, you know, that other
 

6907
02:14:15,840 --> 02:14:17,830
like Zealous and, you know, that other
girl, you know, it's that's where it

6908
02:14:17,830 --> 02:14:17,840
girl, you know, it's that's where it
 

6909
02:14:17,840 --> 02:14:21,510
girl, you know, it's that's where it
kind of comes from. Gotcha. So, this is

6910
02:14:21,510 --> 02:14:21,520
kind of comes from. Gotcha. So, this is
 

6911
02:14:21,520 --> 02:14:24,310
kind of comes from. Gotcha. So, this is
just like a an a question I had because

6912
02:14:24,310 --> 02:14:24,320
just like a an a question I had because
 

6913
02:14:24,320 --> 02:14:26,390
just like a an a question I had because
you posted um to your account because

6914
02:14:26,390 --> 02:14:26,400
you posted um to your account because
 

6915
02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:27,910
you posted um to your account because
you've been like obviously because of

6916
02:14:27,910 --> 02:14:27,920
you've been like obviously because of
 

6917
02:14:27,920 --> 02:14:29,990
you've been like obviously because of
these people accusing you of faking

6918
02:14:29,990 --> 02:14:30,000
these people accusing you of faking
 

6919
02:14:30,000 --> 02:14:31,910
these people accusing you of faking
mental health stuff and like even with

6920
02:14:31,910 --> 02:14:31,920
mental health stuff and like even with
 

6921
02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:33,830
mental health stuff and like even with
the GoFundMe stuff, faking like actual

6922
02:14:33,830 --> 02:14:33,840
the GoFundMe stuff, faking like actual
 

6923
02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:36,870
the GoFundMe stuff, faking like actual
like conditions you had. Um was the

6924
02:14:36,870 --> 02:14:36,880
like conditions you had. Um was the
 

6925
02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:38,550
like conditions you had. Um was the
heart monitor that you posted in

6926
02:14:38,550 --> 02:14:38,560
heart monitor that you posted in
 

6927
02:14:38,560 --> 02:14:40,229
heart monitor that you posted in
relation to when you were dealing with

6928
02:14:40,229 --> 02:14:40,239
relation to when you were dealing with
 

6929
02:14:40,239 --> 02:14:42,069
relation to when you were dealing with
the MCAS stuff because you mentioned

6930
02:14:42,069 --> 02:14:42,079
the MCAS stuff because you mentioned
 

6931
02:14:42,079 --> 02:14:44,470
the MCAS stuff because you mentioned
that like you had like heart like high

6932
02:14:44,470 --> 02:14:44,480
that like you had like heart like high
 

6933
02:14:44,480 --> 02:14:46,790
that like you had like heart like high
like heart elevation kind of thing. I

6934
02:14:46,790 --> 02:14:46,800
like heart elevation kind of thing. I
 

6935
02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:48,709
like heart elevation kind of thing. I
was just wondering if that was this Zo

6936
02:14:48,709 --> 02:14:48,719
was just wondering if that was this Zo
 

6937
02:14:48,719 --> 02:14:50,790
was just wondering if that was this Zo
monitor was something related to the

6938
02:14:50,790 --> 02:14:50,800
monitor was something related to the
 

6939
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:53,990
monitor was something related to the
MCAS that you were going through. Well,

6940
02:14:53,990 --> 02:14:54,000
MCAS that you were going through. Well,
 

6941
02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:57,430
MCAS that you were going through. Well,
so this was more so related to the long

6942
02:14:57,430 --> 02:14:57,440
so this was more so related to the long
 

6943
02:14:57,440 --> 02:15:01,430
so this was more so related to the long
COVID because MCAS long CO is like a

6944
02:15:01,430 --> 02:15:01,440
COVID because MCAS long CO is like a
 

6945
02:15:01,440 --> 02:15:04,310
COVID because MCAS long CO is like a
general term for pretty much any kind of

6946
02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:04,320
general term for pretty much any kind of
 

6947
02:15:04,320 --> 02:15:06,709
general term for pretty much any kind of
condition that you develop from the CO

6948
02:15:06,709 --> 02:15:06,719
condition that you develop from the CO
 

6949
02:15:06,719 --> 02:15:09,510
condition that you develop from the CO
infection. So MCAS is one of those

6950
02:15:09,510 --> 02:15:09,520
infection. So MCAS is one of those
 

6951
02:15:09,520 --> 02:15:11,510
infection. So MCAS is one of those
things. But another thing that I had

6952
02:15:11,510 --> 02:15:11,520
things. But another thing that I had
 

6953
02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:14,229
things. But another thing that I had
also gotten was like very high blood

6954
02:15:14,229 --> 02:15:14,239
also gotten was like very high blood
 

6955
02:15:14,239 --> 02:15:17,189
also gotten was like very high blood
pressure, extremely high heart rate. Um,

6956
02:15:17,189 --> 02:15:17,199
pressure, extremely high heart rate. Um,
 

6957
02:15:17,199 --> 02:15:19,350
pressure, extremely high heart rate. Um,
and it was getting really bad. Like it

6958
02:15:19,350 --> 02:15:19,360
and it was getting really bad. Like it
 

6959
02:15:19,360 --> 02:15:21,350
and it was getting really bad. Like it
was to a point where I will never forget

6960
02:15:21,350 --> 02:15:21,360
was to a point where I will never forget
 

6961
02:15:21,360 --> 02:15:22,629
was to a point where I will never forget
it was like two weeks after having

6962
02:15:22,629 --> 02:15:22,639
it was like two weeks after having
 

6963
02:15:22,639 --> 02:15:25,270
it was like two weeks after having
COVID. I was laying down and I sat up

6964
02:15:25,270 --> 02:15:25,280
COVID. I was laying down and I sat up
 

6965
02:15:25,280 --> 02:15:28,149
COVID. I was laying down and I sat up
and I felt so bad. I felt so out of

6966
02:15:28,149 --> 02:15:28,159
and I felt so bad. I felt so out of
 

6967
02:15:28,159 --> 02:15:31,109
and I felt so bad. I felt so out of
breath and weak. And I asked Cam, "Can

6968
02:15:31,109 --> 02:15:31,119
breath and weak. And I asked Cam, "Can
 

6969
02:15:31,119 --> 02:15:32,870
breath and weak. And I asked Cam, "Can
you please check my blood pressure? I

6970
02:15:32,870 --> 02:15:32,880
you please check my blood pressure? I
 

6971
02:15:32,880 --> 02:15:35,189
you please check my blood pressure? I
don't feel good." And he checked it and

6972
02:15:35,189 --> 02:15:35,199
don't feel good." And he checked it and
 

6973
02:15:35,199 --> 02:15:37,510
don't feel good." And he checked it and
I had really high blood pressure. and my

6974
02:15:37,510 --> 02:15:37,520
I had really high blood pressure. and my
 

6975
02:15:37,520 --> 02:15:41,030
I had really high blood pressure. and my
heart rate was 190 just sitting there,

6976
02:15:41,030 --> 02:15:41,040
heart rate was 190 just sitting there,
 

6977
02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:43,270
heart rate was 190 just sitting there,
which if you know, you know, that's not

6978
02:15:43,270 --> 02:15:43,280
which if you know, you know, that's not
 

6979
02:15:43,280 --> 02:15:46,310
which if you know, you know, that's not
good. 190 is really really bad, right?

6980
02:15:46,310 --> 02:15:46,320
good. 190 is really really bad, right?
 

6981
02:15:46,320 --> 02:15:49,510
good. 190 is really really bad, right?
Um, so they we we went to the ER, they

6982
02:15:49,510 --> 02:15:49,520
Um, so they we we went to the ER, they
 

6983
02:15:49,520 --> 02:15:51,270
Um, so they we we went to the ER, they
did a bunch of blood tests to check for

6984
02:15:51,270 --> 02:15:51,280
did a bunch of blood tests to check for
 

6985
02:15:51,280 --> 02:15:53,350
did a bunch of blood tests to check for
like damage of the heart and luckily

6986
02:15:53,350 --> 02:15:53,360
like damage of the heart and luckily
 

6987
02:15:53,360 --> 02:15:54,950
like damage of the heart and luckily
they were not able to find anything

6988
02:15:54,950 --> 02:15:54,960
they were not able to find anything
 

6989
02:15:54,960 --> 02:15:58,390
they were not able to find anything
there. So I was then referred to by my

6990
02:15:58,390 --> 02:15:58,400
there. So I was then referred to by my
 

6991
02:15:58,400 --> 02:16:00,750
there. So I was then referred to by my
general practitioner to go to a

6992
02:16:00,750 --> 02:16:00,760
general practitioner to go to a
 

6993
02:16:00,760 --> 02:16:04,229
general practitioner to go to a
cardiologist and they did a ultrasound

6994
02:16:04,229 --> 02:16:04,239
cardiologist and they did a ultrasound
 

6995
02:16:04,239 --> 02:16:06,270
cardiologist and they did a ultrasound
on my heart like the uh the echo

6996
02:16:06,270 --> 02:16:06,280
on my heart like the uh the echo
 

6997
02:16:06,280 --> 02:16:08,870
on my heart like the uh the echo
cardiogram stress test different things

6998
02:16:08,870 --> 02:16:08,880
cardiogram stress test different things
 

6999
02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:11,589
cardiogram stress test different things
and one of those things was what I had

7000
02:16:11,589 --> 02:16:11,599
and one of those things was what I had
 

7001
02:16:11,599 --> 02:16:13,430
and one of those things was what I had
posted. It's like a like a halter

7002
02:16:13,430 --> 02:16:13,440
posted. It's like a like a halter
 

7003
02:16:13,440 --> 02:16:16,310
posted. It's like a like a halter
monitor that they like taped to my chest

7004
02:16:16,310 --> 02:16:16,320
monitor that they like taped to my chest
 

7005
02:16:16,320 --> 02:16:19,830
monitor that they like taped to my chest
and I had to hold it on there for I want

7006
02:16:19,830 --> 02:16:19,840
and I had to hold it on there for I want
 

7007
02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:22,229
and I had to hold it on there for I want
to say it was 24 hours or it was either

7008
02:16:22,229 --> 02:16:22,239
to say it was 24 hours or it was either
 

7009
02:16:22,239 --> 02:16:24,550
to say it was 24 hours or it was either
24 or 48. I always kind of forget which

7010
02:16:24,550 --> 02:16:24,560
24 or 48. I always kind of forget which
 

7011
02:16:24,560 --> 02:16:28,550
24 or 48. I always kind of forget which
one, but I feel like it was 24. Um, and

7012
02:16:28,550 --> 02:16:28,560
one, but I feel like it was 24. Um, and
 

7013
02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:31,189
one, but I feel like it was 24. Um, and
then I remember I had to take it off,

7014
02:16:31,189 --> 02:16:31,199
then I remember I had to take it off,
 

7015
02:16:31,199 --> 02:16:33,110
then I remember I had to take it off,
uh, hit a little button, and then we had

7016
02:16:33,110 --> 02:16:33,120
uh, hit a little button, and then we had
 

7017
02:16:33,120 --> 02:16:34,629
uh, hit a little button, and then we had
to give it back to the cardiologist

7018
02:16:34,629 --> 02:16:34,639
to give it back to the cardiologist
 

7019
02:16:34,639 --> 02:16:36,629
to give it back to the cardiologist
because basically what they're trying to

7020
02:16:36,629 --> 02:16:36,639
because basically what they're trying to
 

7021
02:16:36,639 --> 02:16:38,549
because basically what they're trying to
do is see if they can find any kind of

7022
02:16:38,549 --> 02:16:38,559
do is see if they can find any kind of
 

7023
02:16:38,559 --> 02:16:42,230
do is see if they can find any kind of
like arrhythmia patterns that they can

7024
02:16:42,230 --> 02:16:42,240
like arrhythmia patterns that they can
 

7025
02:16:42,240 --> 02:16:44,309
like arrhythmia patterns that they can
recognize that could give them an

7026
02:16:44,309 --> 02:16:44,319
recognize that could give them an
 

7027
02:16:44,319 --> 02:16:46,790
recognize that could give them an
indication what on what's like going on.

7028
02:16:46,790 --> 02:16:46,800
indication what on what's like going on.
 

7029
02:16:46,800 --> 02:16:48,950
indication what on what's like going on.
And so that's what that was. This was

7030
02:16:48,950 --> 02:16:48,960
And so that's what that was. This was
 

7031
02:16:48,960 --> 02:16:50,629
And so that's what that was. This was
just them trying to figure out a

7032
02:16:50,629 --> 02:16:50,639
just them trying to figure out a
 

7033
02:16:50,639 --> 02:16:53,349
just them trying to figure out a
pattern. And in the end, uh, they wound

7034
02:16:53,349 --> 02:16:53,359
pattern. And in the end, uh, they wound
 

7035
02:16:53,359 --> 02:16:56,150
pattern. And in the end, uh, they wound
up determining that this was from a long

7036
02:16:56,150 --> 02:16:56,160
up determining that this was from a long
 

7037
02:16:56,160 --> 02:16:58,870
up determining that this was from a long
COVID induced, uh, just inflammation of

7038
02:16:58,870 --> 02:16:58,880
COVID induced, uh, just inflammation of
 

7039
02:16:58,880 --> 02:17:00,790
COVID induced, uh, just inflammation of
the heart, which unfortunately does

7040
02:17:00,790 --> 02:17:00,800
the heart, which unfortunately does
 

7041
02:17:00,800 --> 02:17:03,110
the heart, which unfortunately does
happen for some people. Um, but the

7042
02:17:03,110 --> 02:17:03,120
happen for some people. Um, but the
 

7043
02:17:03,120 --> 02:17:04,870
happen for some people. Um, but the
inflammation after like a few months did

7044
02:17:04,870 --> 02:17:04,880
inflammation after like a few months did
 

7045
02:17:04,880 --> 02:17:06,950
inflammation after like a few months did
wind up kind of calming down. Okay,

7046
02:17:06,950 --> 02:17:06,960
wind up kind of calming down. Okay,
 

7047
02:17:06,960 --> 02:17:09,190
wind up kind of calming down. Okay,
that's good. I mean, thank God you don't

7048
02:17:09,190 --> 02:17:09,200
that's good. I mean, thank God you don't
 

7049
02:17:09,200 --> 02:17:11,110
that's good. I mean, thank God you don't
want to have problems at 30. That'd be

7050
02:17:11,110 --> 02:17:11,120
want to have problems at 30. That'd be
 

7051
02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:13,030
want to have problems at 30. That'd be
kind of concerning. It's It's

7052
02:17:13,030 --> 02:17:13,040
kind of concerning. It's It's
 

7053
02:17:13,040 --> 02:17:15,110
kind of concerning. It's It's
terrifying. Honestly, I was I was really

7054
02:17:15,110 --> 02:17:15,120
terrifying. Honestly, I was I was really
 

7055
02:17:15,120 --> 02:17:17,509
terrifying. Honestly, I was I was really
scared during that time.

7056
02:17:17,509 --> 02:17:17,519
scared during that time.
 

7057
02:17:17,519 --> 02:17:19,830
scared during that time.
So, this is just one last thing, one

7058
02:17:19,830 --> 02:17:19,840
So, this is just one last thing, one
 

7059
02:17:19,840 --> 02:17:21,589
So, this is just one last thing, one
last tiny little thing that I don't know

7060
02:17:21,589 --> 02:17:21,599
last tiny little thing that I don't know
 

7061
02:17:21,599 --> 02:17:24,070
last tiny little thing that I don't know
if that's, you know, a big deal, but

7062
02:17:24,070 --> 02:17:24,080
if that's, you know, a big deal, but
 

7063
02:17:24,080 --> 02:17:25,750
if that's, you know, a big deal, but
it's something that I completely forgot

7064
02:17:25,750 --> 02:17:25,760
it's something that I completely forgot
 

7065
02:17:25,760 --> 02:17:28,230
it's something that I completely forgot
to ask you about uh when I was going

7066
02:17:28,230 --> 02:17:28,240
to ask you about uh when I was going
 

7067
02:17:28,240 --> 02:17:30,469
to ask you about uh when I was going
through this list, but somebody but not

7068
02:17:30,469 --> 02:17:30,479
through this list, but somebody but not
 

7069
02:17:30,479 --> 02:17:32,629
through this list, but somebody but not
somebody I was able to find it through

7070
02:17:32,629 --> 02:17:32,639
somebody I was able to find it through
 

7071
02:17:32,639 --> 02:17:35,589
somebody I was able to find it through
something that was posted um you're

7072
02:17:35,589 --> 02:17:35,599
something that was posted um you're
 

7073
02:17:35,599 --> 02:17:38,309
something that was posted um you're
related, but um do you recall somebody

7074
02:17:38,309 --> 02:17:38,319
related, but um do you recall somebody
 

7075
02:17:38,319 --> 02:17:41,910
related, but um do you recall somebody
named Sparks Channel by any chance?

7076
02:17:41,910 --> 02:17:41,920
named Sparks Channel by any chance?
 

7077
02:17:41,920 --> 02:17:44,230
named Sparks Channel by any chance?
I do. I do remember Spark's channel.

7078
02:17:44,230 --> 02:17:44,240
I do. I do remember Spark's channel.
 

7079
02:17:44,240 --> 02:17:45,910
I do. I do remember Spark's channel.
Okay. because they were apparently

7080
02:17:45,910 --> 02:17:45,920
Okay. because they were apparently
 

7081
02:17:45,920 --> 02:17:48,389
Okay. because they were apparently
somebody who made art that apparently

7082
02:17:48,389 --> 02:17:48,399
somebody who made art that apparently
 

7083
02:17:48,399 --> 02:17:50,309
somebody who made art that apparently
you stole or something like that. I

7084
02:17:50,309 --> 02:17:50,319
you stole or something like that. I
 

7085
02:17:50,319 --> 02:17:53,190
you stole or something like that. I
don't know. Um, apparently Blue-Eyed Fox

7086
02:17:53,190 --> 02:17:53,200
don't know. Um, apparently Blue-Eyed Fox
 

7087
02:17:53,200 --> 02:17:55,270
don't know. Um, apparently Blue-Eyed Fox
is seen here saying that she took his

7088
02:17:55,270 --> 02:17:55,280
is seen here saying that she took his
 

7089
02:17:55,280 --> 02:17:56,870
is seen here saying that she took his
art and manipulated it for 8,000

7090
02:17:56,870 --> 02:17:56,880
art and manipulated it for 8,000
 

7091
02:17:56,880 --> 02:17:58,790
art and manipulated it for 8,000
followers or something like that. I feel

7092
02:17:58,790 --> 02:17:58,800
followers or something like that. I feel
 

7093
02:17:58,800 --> 02:18:01,030
followers or something like that. I feel
like art theft is not like the biggest

7094
02:18:01,030 --> 02:18:01,040
like art theft is not like the biggest
 

7095
02:18:01,040 --> 02:18:03,669
like art theft is not like the biggest
egregious thing ever, but I should ask

7096
02:18:03,669 --> 02:18:03,679
egregious thing ever, but I should ask
 

7097
02:18:03,679 --> 02:18:05,110
egregious thing ever, but I should ask
you about it because I did kind of

7098
02:18:05,110 --> 02:18:05,120
you about it because I did kind of
 

7099
02:18:05,120 --> 02:18:06,389
you about it because I did kind of
forget about it because apparently he

7100
02:18:06,389 --> 02:18:06,399
forget about it because apparently he
 

7101
02:18:06,399 --> 02:18:07,669
forget about it because apparently he
tried to take his life over it or

7102
02:18:07,669 --> 02:18:07,679
tried to take his life over it or
 

7103
02:18:07,679 --> 02:18:09,669
tried to take his life over it or
something. So, I thought maybe that's

7104
02:18:09,669 --> 02:18:09,679
something. So, I thought maybe that's
 

7105
02:18:09,679 --> 02:18:12,469
something. So, I thought maybe that's
something we should talk about. story.

7106
02:18:12,469 --> 02:18:12,479
something we should talk about. story.
 

7107
02:18:12,479 --> 02:18:14,469
something we should talk about. story.
Of course, it's important. And that that

7108
02:18:14,469 --> 02:18:14,479
Of course, it's important. And that that
 

7109
02:18:14,479 --> 02:18:17,110
Of course, it's important. And that that
is the story that is kind of pushed, but

7110
02:18:17,110 --> 02:18:17,120
is the story that is kind of pushed, but
 

7111
02:18:17,120 --> 02:18:19,030
is the story that is kind of pushed, but
uh pretty much what happened was Sparks

7112
02:18:19,030 --> 02:18:19,040
uh pretty much what happened was Sparks
 

7113
02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:22,629
uh pretty much what happened was Sparks
was a artist who was, you know, he he

7114
02:18:22,629 --> 02:18:22,639
was a artist who was, you know, he he
 

7115
02:18:22,639 --> 02:18:24,389
was a artist who was, you know, he he
was known for being able to replicate

7116
02:18:24,389 --> 02:18:24,399
was known for being able to replicate
 

7117
02:18:24,399 --> 02:18:27,349
was known for being able to replicate
like the Sonic Channel style and uh we

7118
02:18:27,349 --> 02:18:27,359
like the Sonic Channel style and uh we
 

7119
02:18:27,359 --> 02:18:28,629
like the Sonic Channel style and uh we
were friends, like we followed each

7120
02:18:28,629 --> 02:18:28,639
were friends, like we followed each
 

7121
02:18:28,639 --> 02:18:30,150
were friends, like we followed each
other and I reached out to him and I

7122
02:18:30,150 --> 02:18:30,160
other and I reached out to him and I
 

7123
02:18:30,160 --> 02:18:32,469
other and I reached out to him and I
said, "Hey, um would you be willing to

7124
02:18:32,469 --> 02:18:32,479
said, "Hey, um would you be willing to
 

7125
02:18:32,479 --> 02:18:34,629
said, "Hey, um would you be willing to
like do like an art piece for me for

7126
02:18:34,629 --> 02:18:34,639
like do like an art piece for me for
 

7127
02:18:34,639 --> 02:18:37,750
like do like an art piece for me for
whenever whenever I hit 8,000 followers,

7128
02:18:37,750 --> 02:18:37,760
whenever whenever I hit 8,000 followers,
 

7129
02:18:37,760 --> 02:18:39,830
whenever whenever I hit 8,000 followers,
like it's like a milestone post." So,

7130
02:18:39,830 --> 02:18:39,840
like it's like a milestone post." So,
 

7131
02:18:39,840 --> 02:18:41,110
like it's like a milestone post." So,
it' be like, "Thank you for 8,000

7132
02:18:41,110 --> 02:18:41,120
it' be like, "Thank you for 8,000
 

7133
02:18:41,120 --> 02:18:42,549
it' be like, "Thank you for 8,000
followers and then like have his little

7134
02:18:42,549 --> 02:18:42,559
followers and then like have his little
 

7135
02:18:42,559 --> 02:18:44,230
followers and then like have his little
art piece on it." And I said, "You know,

7136
02:18:44,230 --> 02:18:44,240
art piece on it." And I said, "You know,
 

7137
02:18:44,240 --> 02:18:46,150
art piece on it." And I said, "You know,
I can pay you and everything." And he

7138
02:18:46,150 --> 02:18:46,160
I can pay you and everything." And he
 

7139
02:18:46,160 --> 02:18:47,910
I can pay you and everything." And he
told me, "Oh, no, no, no. Like, no, you

7140
02:18:47,910 --> 02:18:47,920
told me, "Oh, no, no, no. Like, no, you
 

7141
02:18:47,920 --> 02:18:49,830
told me, "Oh, no, no, no. Like, no, you
don't have to do that. Like, I I just

7142
02:18:49,830 --> 02:18:49,840
don't have to do that. Like, I I just
 

7143
02:18:49,840 --> 02:18:51,429
don't have to do that. Like, I I just
would love to draw it for you." And at

7144
02:18:51,429 --> 02:18:51,439
would love to draw it for you." And at
 

7145
02:18:51,439 --> 02:18:52,870
would love to draw it for you." And at
this point, you know, I'm a lot smaller.

7146
02:18:52,870 --> 02:18:52,880
this point, you know, I'm a lot smaller.
 

7147
02:18:52,880 --> 02:18:54,629
this point, you know, I'm a lot smaller.
So, I'm like, "Oh, okay." Like, well,

7148
02:18:54,629 --> 02:18:54,639
So, I'm like, "Oh, okay." Like, well,
 

7149
02:18:54,639 --> 02:18:57,110
So, I'm like, "Oh, okay." Like, well,
thank you. And, uh, basically what

7150
02:18:57,110 --> 02:18:57,120
thank you. And, uh, basically what
 

7151
02:18:57,120 --> 02:18:59,750
thank you. And, uh, basically what
happened is I hit the 8,000 mark. I

7152
02:18:59,750 --> 02:18:59,760
happened is I hit the 8,000 mark. I
 

7153
02:18:59,760 --> 02:19:03,110
happened is I hit the 8,000 mark. I
posted it and then at some point I began

7154
02:19:03,110 --> 02:19:03,120
posted it and then at some point I began
 

7155
02:19:03,120 --> 02:19:05,910
posted it and then at some point I began
hearing from Blue-Eyed and you know

7156
02:19:05,910 --> 02:19:05,920
hearing from Blue-Eyed and you know
 

7157
02:19:05,920 --> 02:19:09,110
hearing from Blue-Eyed and you know
their group of people saying that pretty

7158
02:19:09,110 --> 02:19:09,120
their group of people saying that pretty
 

7159
02:19:09,120 --> 02:19:10,870
their group of people saying that pretty
much these accusations that you're

7160
02:19:10,870 --> 02:19:10,880
much these accusations that you're
 

7161
02:19:10,880 --> 02:19:13,349
much these accusations that you're
talking about and I was just like what

7162
02:19:13,349 --> 02:19:13,359
talking about and I was just like what
 

7163
02:19:13,359 --> 02:19:16,230
talking about and I was just like what
what's going on you know and um I guess

7164
02:19:16,230 --> 02:19:16,240
what's going on you know and um I guess
 

7165
02:19:16,240 --> 02:19:18,309
what's going on you know and um I guess
it was something to like the effect of

7166
02:19:18,309 --> 02:19:18,319
it was something to like the effect of
 

7167
02:19:18,319 --> 02:19:21,030
it was something to like the effect of
well he she didn't even post the art you

7168
02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:21,040
well he she didn't even post the art you
 

7169
02:19:21,040 --> 02:19:23,429
well he she didn't even post the art you
know and which was weird cuz I did and

7170
02:19:23,429 --> 02:19:23,439
know and which was weird cuz I did and
 

7171
02:19:23,439 --> 02:19:25,349
know and which was weird cuz I did and
at one point I wound up just confronting

7172
02:19:25,349 --> 02:19:25,359
at one point I wound up just confronting
 

7173
02:19:25,359 --> 02:19:27,349
at one point I wound up just confronting
Sparks in DM saying like I don't know

7174
02:19:27,349 --> 02:19:27,359
Sparks in DM saying like I don't know
 

7175
02:19:27,359 --> 02:19:28,950
Sparks in DM saying like I don't know
why you're telling people I didn't post

7176
02:19:28,950 --> 02:19:28,960
why you're telling people I didn't post
 

7177
02:19:28,960 --> 02:19:30,790
why you're telling people I didn't post
the art. I I it's right here and I

7178
02:19:30,790 --> 02:19:30,800
the art. I I it's right here and I
 

7179
02:19:30,800 --> 02:19:32,549
the art. I I it's right here and I
leaked it to him and he literally

7180
02:19:32,549 --> 02:19:32,559
leaked it to him and he literally
 

7181
02:19:32,559 --> 02:19:35,110
leaked it to him and he literally
stopped in his tracks and said, "Oh my

7182
02:19:35,110 --> 02:19:35,120
stopped in his tracks and said, "Oh my
 

7183
02:19:35,120 --> 02:19:38,150
stopped in his tracks and said, "Oh my
god, I've made such a big mistake. I I

7184
02:19:38,150 --> 02:19:38,160
god, I've made such a big mistake. I I
 

7185
02:19:38,160 --> 02:19:40,790
god, I've made such a big mistake. I I
didn't see it. I thought I I did not

7186
02:19:40,790 --> 02:19:40,800
didn't see it. I thought I I did not
 

7187
02:19:40,800 --> 02:19:43,349
didn't see it. I thought I I did not
know. I'm I'm I'm so sorry." And I said,

7188
02:19:43,349 --> 02:19:43,359
know. I'm I'm I'm so sorry." And I said,
 

7189
02:19:43,359 --> 02:19:45,270
know. I'm I'm I'm so sorry." And I said,
"No, it's okay. It's it's not a big

7190
02:19:45,270 --> 02:19:45,280
"No, it's okay. It's it's not a big
 

7191
02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:47,990
"No, it's okay. It's it's not a big
deal." But at that point, he was sort of

7192
02:19:47,990 --> 02:19:48,000
deal." But at that point, he was sort of
 

7193
02:19:48,000 --> 02:19:50,230
deal." But at that point, he was sort of
like already roped in with like Blue

7194
02:19:50,230 --> 02:19:50,240
like already roped in with like Blue
 

7195
02:19:50,240 --> 02:19:53,349
like already roped in with like Blue
Eyes kind of group of people, and he

7196
02:19:53,349 --> 02:19:53,359
Eyes kind of group of people, and he
 

7197
02:19:53,359 --> 02:19:55,190
Eyes kind of group of people, and he
didn't really know how to communicate

7198
02:19:55,190 --> 02:19:55,200
didn't really know how to communicate
 

7199
02:19:55,200 --> 02:19:57,190
didn't really know how to communicate
because he was really uncomfortable. So

7200
02:19:57,190 --> 02:19:57,200
because he was really uncomfortable. So
 

7201
02:19:57,200 --> 02:19:58,870
because he was really uncomfortable. So
he would wind up talking to a friend of

7202
02:19:58,870 --> 02:19:58,880
he would wind up talking to a friend of
 

7203
02:19:58,880 --> 02:20:02,469
he would wind up talking to a friend of
mine the whole time being in that group.

7204
02:20:02,469 --> 02:20:02,479
mine the whole time being in that group.
 

7205
02:20:02,479 --> 02:20:03,750
mine the whole time being in that group.
It was the same group that the other

7206
02:20:03,750 --> 02:20:03,760
It was the same group that the other
 

7207
02:20:03,760 --> 02:20:05,110
It was the same group that the other
friend of mine was in where they were

7208
02:20:05,110 --> 02:20:05,120
friend of mine was in where they were
 

7209
02:20:05,120 --> 02:20:07,270
friend of mine was in where they were
watching Blue-Eyed like Photoshop the

7210
02:20:07,270 --> 02:20:07,280
watching Blue-Eyed like Photoshop the
 

7211
02:20:07,280 --> 02:20:09,190
watching Blue-Eyed like Photoshop the
bruises on me and stuff like that. And

7212
02:20:09,190 --> 02:20:09,200
bruises on me and stuff like that. And
 

7213
02:20:09,200 --> 02:20:11,910
bruises on me and stuff like that. And
he was within that group and he was

7214
02:20:11,910 --> 02:20:11,920
he was within that group and he was
 

7215
02:20:11,920 --> 02:20:13,510
he was within that group and he was
screenshotting everything and like

7216
02:20:13,510 --> 02:20:13,520
screenshotting everything and like
 

7217
02:20:13,520 --> 02:20:15,429
screenshotting everything and like
literally showing it to my friend which

7218
02:20:15,429 --> 02:20:15,439
literally showing it to my friend which
 

7219
02:20:15,439 --> 02:20:17,510
literally showing it to my friend which
is how a lot of these things became

7220
02:20:17,510 --> 02:20:17,520
is how a lot of these things became
 

7221
02:20:17,520 --> 02:20:18,830
is how a lot of these things became
public.

7222
02:20:18,830 --> 02:20:18,840
public.
 

7223
02:20:18,840 --> 02:20:22,230
public.
Um because Sparks was he felt really bad

7224
02:20:22,230 --> 02:20:22,240
Um because Sparks was he felt really bad
 

7225
02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:23,590
Um because Sparks was he felt really bad
about what happened. And so he was

7226
02:20:23,590 --> 02:20:23,600
about what happened. And so he was
 

7227
02:20:23,600 --> 02:20:25,190
about what happened. And so he was
sending these updates to a friend of

7228
02:20:25,190 --> 02:20:25,200
sending these updates to a friend of
 

7229
02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:26,710
sending these updates to a friend of
mine saying like I don't know what to

7230
02:20:26,710 --> 02:20:26,720
mine saying like I don't know what to
 

7231
02:20:26,720 --> 02:20:28,630
mine saying like I don't know what to
do. Like I I feel really bad. I didn't

7232
02:20:28,630 --> 02:20:28,640
do. Like I I feel really bad. I didn't
 

7233
02:20:28,640 --> 02:20:31,830
do. Like I I feel really bad. I didn't
mean to cause all of this. But no, I

7234
02:20:31,830 --> 02:20:31,840
mean to cause all of this. But no, I
 

7235
02:20:31,840 --> 02:20:33,750
mean to cause all of this. But no, I
didn't draw I didn't like drive this guy

7236
02:20:33,750 --> 02:20:33,760
didn't draw I didn't like drive this guy
 

7237
02:20:33,760 --> 02:20:36,070
didn't draw I didn't like drive this guy
to like suicide. This was a literal

7238
02:20:36,070 --> 02:20:36,080
to like suicide. This was a literal
 

7239
02:20:36,080 --> 02:20:38,230
to like suicide. This was a literal
miscommunication where he just thought I

7240
02:20:38,230 --> 02:20:38,240
miscommunication where he just thought I
 

7241
02:20:38,240 --> 02:20:40,870
miscommunication where he just thought I
didn't post the art that he did, but I

7242
02:20:40,870 --> 02:20:40,880
didn't post the art that he did, but I
 

7243
02:20:40,880 --> 02:20:43,030
didn't post the art that he did, but I
did. And then I sent it to him and that

7244
02:20:43,030 --> 02:20:43,040
did. And then I sent it to him and that
 

7245
02:20:43,040 --> 02:20:45,670
did. And then I sent it to him and that
was it. But Blue-Eyed then took that

7246
02:20:45,670 --> 02:20:45,680
was it. But Blue-Eyed then took that
 

7247
02:20:45,680 --> 02:20:47,550
was it. But Blue-Eyed then took that
story and kind

7248
02:20:47,550 --> 02:20:47,560
story and kind
 

7249
02:20:47,560 --> 02:20:51,510
story and kind
of what's the word? Um tried to make it

7250
02:20:51,510 --> 02:20:51,520
of what's the word? Um tried to make it
 

7251
02:20:51,520 --> 02:20:53,429
of what's the word? Um tried to make it
sound worse than what it was, I guess. I

7252
02:20:53,429 --> 02:20:53,439
sound worse than what it was, I guess. I
 

7253
02:20:53,439 --> 02:20:54,870
sound worse than what it was, I guess. I
I feel like there's a term for that. I'm

7254
02:20:54,870 --> 02:20:54,880
I feel like there's a term for that. I'm
 

7255
02:20:54,880 --> 02:20:58,070
I feel like there's a term for that. I'm
not thinking of it. Right. Right. I I

7256
02:20:58,070 --> 02:20:58,080
not thinking of it. Right. Right. I I
 

7257
02:20:58,080 --> 02:21:00,950
not thinking of it. Right. Right. I I
couldn't recall the exact

7258
02:21:00,950 --> 02:21:00,960
couldn't recall the exact
 

7259
02:21:00,960 --> 02:21:04,150
couldn't recall the exact
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Probably that. Yeah, I

7260
02:21:04,150 --> 02:21:04,160
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Probably that. Yeah, I
 

7261
02:21:04,160 --> 02:21:07,190
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Probably that. Yeah, I
wasing it. Catastrophize, but uh Yeah,

7262
02:21:07,190 --> 02:21:07,200
wasing it. Catastrophize, but uh Yeah,
 

7263
02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:08,870
wasing it. Catastrophize, but uh Yeah,
like something like that. Definitely

7264
02:21:08,870 --> 02:21:08,880
like something like that. Definitely
 

7265
02:21:08,880 --> 02:21:11,590
like something like that. Definitely
that. Definitely that. But no, like with

7266
02:21:11,590 --> 02:21:11,600
that. Definitely that. But no, like with
 

7267
02:21:11,600 --> 02:21:13,910
that. Definitely that. But no, like with
Sparks, that's Yeah, it was literally

7268
02:21:13,910 --> 02:21:13,920
Sparks, that's Yeah, it was literally
 

7269
02:21:13,920 --> 02:21:16,230
Sparks, that's Yeah, it was literally
just a misunderstanding where he thought

7270
02:21:16,230 --> 02:21:16,240
just a misunderstanding where he thought
 

7271
02:21:16,240 --> 02:21:18,710
just a misunderstanding where he thought
I didn't post the art he made for me.

7272
02:21:18,710 --> 02:21:18,720
I didn't post the art he made for me.
 

7273
02:21:18,720 --> 02:21:20,870
I didn't post the art he made for me.
Uh, but I did post it and after that he

7274
02:21:20,870 --> 02:21:20,880
Uh, but I did post it and after that he
 

7275
02:21:20,880 --> 02:21:23,990
Uh, but I did post it and after that he
apologized and we were fine. But, you

7276
02:21:23,990 --> 02:21:24,000
apologized and we were fine. But, you
 

7277
02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:26,630
apologized and we were fine. But, you
know, the other people who then didn't

7278
02:21:26,630 --> 02:21:26,640
know, the other people who then didn't
 

7279
02:21:26,640 --> 02:21:28,389
know, the other people who then didn't
know that, they just kind of continued,

7280
02:21:28,389 --> 02:21:28,399
know that, they just kind of continued,
 

7281
02:21:28,399 --> 02:21:30,150
know that, they just kind of continued,
including Blue-Eyed just kind of spread

7282
02:21:30,150 --> 02:21:30,160
including Blue-Eyed just kind of spread
 

7283
02:21:30,160 --> 02:21:33,429
including Blue-Eyed just kind of spread
that misinformation. Yeah. To people who

7284
02:21:33,429 --> 02:21:33,439
that misinformation. Yeah. To people who
 

7285
02:21:33,439 --> 02:21:37,030
that misinformation. Yeah. To people who
don't know, right? So, this should be

7286
02:21:37,030 --> 02:21:37,040
don't know, right? So, this should be
 

7287
02:21:37,040 --> 02:21:39,030
don't know, right? So, this should be
the last thing unless if we want to talk

7288
02:21:39,030 --> 02:21:39,040
the last thing unless if we want to talk
 

7289
02:21:39,040 --> 02:21:41,510
the last thing unless if we want to talk
about the Saber Spark stuff. Um, and

7290
02:21:41,510 --> 02:21:41,520
about the Saber Spark stuff. Um, and
 

7291
02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:43,429
about the Saber Spark stuff. Um, and
like dedicate a whole section to that.

7292
02:21:43,429 --> 02:21:43,439
like dedicate a whole section to that.
 

7293
02:21:43,439 --> 02:21:46,469
like dedicate a whole section to that.
Um, because this is just the final thing

7294
02:21:46,469 --> 02:21:46,479
Um, because this is just the final thing
 

7295
02:21:46,479 --> 02:21:49,710
Um, because this is just the final thing
in terms of your reputational like

7296
02:21:49,710 --> 02:21:49,720
in terms of your reputational like
 

7297
02:21:49,720 --> 02:21:51,910
in terms of your reputational like
story-wise. Yeah. And then we can talk

7298
02:21:51,910 --> 02:21:51,920
story-wise. Yeah. And then we can talk
 

7299
02:21:51,920 --> 02:21:53,349
story-wise. Yeah. And then we can talk
about Saber Spark a little bit. It's

7300
02:21:53,349 --> 02:21:53,359
about Saber Spark a little bit. It's
 

7301
02:21:53,359 --> 02:21:55,990
about Saber Spark a little bit. It's
been like two hours. So, but uh Okay.

7302
02:21:55,990 --> 02:21:56,000
been like two hours. So, but uh Okay.
 

7303
02:21:56,000 --> 02:21:59,110
been like two hours. So, but uh Okay.
Yeah. I don't know. We should be uh as

7304
02:21:59,110 --> 02:21:59,120
Yeah. I don't know. We should be uh as
 

7305
02:21:59,120 --> 02:22:01,349
Yeah. I don't know. We should be uh as
thorough as possible, though. Uh we

7306
02:22:01,349 --> 02:22:01,359
thorough as possible, though. Uh we
 

7307
02:22:01,359 --> 02:22:03,830
thorough as possible, though. Uh we
won't talk about like the main main

7308
02:22:03,830 --> 02:22:03,840
won't talk about like the main main
 

7309
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:05,510
won't talk about like the main main
allegations because we got to get like

7310
02:22:05,510 --> 02:22:05,520
allegations because we got to get like
 

7311
02:22:05,520 --> 02:22:07,670
allegations because we got to get like
the wording completely in order and

7312
02:22:07,670 --> 02:22:07,680
the wording completely in order and
 

7313
02:22:07,680 --> 02:22:09,030
the wording completely in order and
stuff, but we could talk about like the

7314
02:22:09,030 --> 02:22:09,040
stuff, but we could talk about like the
 

7315
02:22:09,040 --> 02:22:11,110
stuff, but we could talk about like the
response video and some of the

7316
02:22:11,110 --> 02:22:11,120
response video and some of the
 

7317
02:22:11,120 --> 02:22:12,389
response video and some of the
background stuff that's been happening

7318
02:22:12,389 --> 02:22:12,399
background stuff that's been happening
 

7319
02:22:12,399 --> 02:22:14,550
background stuff that's been happening
during the investigation. Sure. Yeah,

7320
02:22:14,550 --> 02:22:14,560
during the investigation. Sure. Yeah,
 

7321
02:22:14,560 --> 02:22:16,389
during the investigation. Sure. Yeah,
that sounds perfect. Uh cuz I mean your

7322
02:22:16,389 --> 02:22:16,399
that sounds perfect. Uh cuz I mean your
 

7323
02:22:16,399 --> 02:22:17,670
that sounds perfect. Uh cuz I mean your
your statement's kind of already out

7324
02:22:17,670 --> 02:22:17,680
your statement's kind of already out
 

7325
02:22:17,680 --> 02:22:19,429
your statement's kind of already out
there and of course when Enter goes

7326
02:22:19,429 --> 02:22:19,439
there and of course when Enter goes
 

7327
02:22:19,439 --> 02:22:21,590
there and of course when Enter goes
through the timeline in his video, the

7328
02:22:21,590 --> 02:22:21,600
through the timeline in his video, the
 

7329
02:22:21,600 --> 02:22:23,030
through the timeline in his video, the
things that we already talked about when

7330
02:22:23,030 --> 02:22:23,040
things that we already talked about when
 

7331
02:22:23,040 --> 02:22:24,550
things that we already talked about when
in even in the document that I was able

7332
02:22:24,550 --> 02:22:24,560
in even in the document that I was able
 

7333
02:22:24,560 --> 02:22:26,070
in even in the document that I was able
to put together, I think we'll end up in

7334
02:22:26,070 --> 02:22:26,080
to put together, I think we'll end up in
 

7335
02:22:26,080 --> 02:22:27,790
to put together, I think we'll end up in
that somewhat.

7336
02:22:27,790 --> 02:22:27,800
that somewhat.
 

7337
02:22:27,800 --> 02:22:31,190
that somewhat.
Um, so let's talk about Cessy. Cesy was

7338
02:22:31,190 --> 02:22:31,200
Um, so let's talk about Cessy. Cesy was
 

7339
02:22:31,200 --> 02:22:32,870
Um, so let's talk about Cessy. Cesy was
an old friend of yours, somebody who

7340
02:22:32,870 --> 02:22:32,880
an old friend of yours, somebody who
 

7341
02:22:32,880 --> 02:22:35,510
an old friend of yours, somebody who
drew art even for your private accounts.

7342
02:22:35,510 --> 02:22:35,520
drew art even for your private accounts.
 

7343
02:22:35,520 --> 02:22:37,830
drew art even for your private accounts.
Um, they created a document where they

7344
02:22:37,830 --> 02:22:37,840
Um, they created a document where they
 

7345
02:22:37,840 --> 02:22:39,830
Um, they created a document where they
alleged that your, uh, coowwriter for

7346
02:22:39,830 --> 02:22:39,840
alleged that your, uh, coowwriter for
 

7347
02:22:39,840 --> 02:22:43,349
alleged that your, uh, coowwriter for
Sonic and Tales R, uh, Doria Nelson, uh,

7348
02:22:43,349 --> 02:22:43,359
Sonic and Tales R, uh, Doria Nelson, uh,
 

7349
02:22:43,359 --> 02:22:45,110
Sonic and Tales R, uh, Doria Nelson, uh,
did something really inappropriate at

7350
02:22:45,110 --> 02:22:45,120
did something really inappropriate at
 

7351
02:22:45,120 --> 02:22:47,830
did something really inappropriate at
Sonic Fan Jam 2017 where they apparently

7352
02:22:47,830 --> 02:22:47,840
Sonic Fan Jam 2017 where they apparently
 

7353
02:22:47,840 --> 02:22:50,309
Sonic Fan Jam 2017 where they apparently
cuddled her in her sleep and like, you

7354
02:22:50,309 --> 02:22:50,319
cuddled her in her sleep and like, you
 

7355
02:22:50,319 --> 02:22:52,389
cuddled her in her sleep and like, you
know, tried to brush his fingers through

7356
02:22:52,389 --> 02:22:52,399
know, tried to brush his fingers through
 

7357
02:22:52,399 --> 02:22:54,790
know, tried to brush his fingers through
his hair and was like spooning her or

7358
02:22:54,790 --> 02:22:54,800
his hair and was like spooning her or
 

7359
02:22:54,800 --> 02:22:57,910
his hair and was like spooning her or
something weird. Um, and when she came

7360
02:22:57,910 --> 02:22:57,920
something weird. Um, and when she came
 

7361
02:22:57,920 --> 02:22:59,349
something weird. Um, and when she came
to you and asked you about it, you

7362
02:22:59,349 --> 02:22:59,359
to you and asked you about it, you
 

7363
02:22:59,359 --> 02:23:01,190
to you and asked you about it, you
mentioned having kissed Dorian in the

7364
02:23:01,190 --> 02:23:01,200
mentioned having kissed Dorian in the
 

7365
02:23:01,200 --> 02:23:03,110
mentioned having kissed Dorian in the
past. I don't know if she took that as a

7366
02:23:03,110 --> 02:23:03,120
past. I don't know if she took that as a
 

7367
02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:04,710
past. I don't know if she took that as a
confirmation that yeah, Dorian's a

7368
02:23:04,710 --> 02:23:04,720
confirmation that yeah, Dorian's a
 

7369
02:23:04,720 --> 02:23:06,870
confirmation that yeah, Dorian's a
weirdo, but apparently you kept Dorian

7370
02:23:06,870 --> 02:23:06,880
weirdo, but apparently you kept Dorian
 

7371
02:23:06,880 --> 02:23:08,870
weirdo, but apparently you kept Dorian
on your team and they were like they

7372
02:23:08,870 --> 02:23:08,880
on your team and they were like they
 

7373
02:23:08,880 --> 02:23:10,469
on your team and they were like they
they made a lot of things where this

7374
02:23:10,469 --> 02:23:10,479
they made a lot of things where this
 

7375
02:23:10,479 --> 02:23:13,030
they made a lot of things where this
just kind of spiraled into your

7376
02:23:13,030 --> 02:23:13,040
just kind of spiraled into your
 

7377
02:23:13,040 --> 02:23:16,230
just kind of spiraled into your
friendship kind of falling apart. Ces uh

7378
02:23:16,230 --> 02:23:16,240
friendship kind of falling apart. Ces uh
 

7379
02:23:16,240 --> 02:23:18,790
friendship kind of falling apart. Ces uh
husband got involved at some point um

7380
02:23:18,790 --> 02:23:18,800
husband got involved at some point um
 

7381
02:23:18,800 --> 02:23:22,150
husband got involved at some point um
and talked about how all this stuff kind

7382
02:23:22,150 --> 02:23:22,160
and talked about how all this stuff kind
 

7383
02:23:22,160 --> 02:23:23,750
and talked about how all this stuff kind
of led to him losing his job at some

7384
02:23:23,750 --> 02:23:23,760
of led to him losing his job at some
 

7385
02:23:23,760 --> 02:23:26,950
of led to him losing his job at some
point. uh her Cessy trying to take their

7386
02:23:26,950 --> 02:23:26,960
point. uh her Cessy trying to take their
 

7387
02:23:26,960 --> 02:23:29,030
point. uh her Cessy trying to take their
own life. It's a kind of a big document.

7388
02:23:29,030 --> 02:23:29,040
own life. It's a kind of a big document.
 

7389
02:23:29,040 --> 02:23:31,830
own life. It's a kind of a big document.
It's 67 pages, so forgive me if I'm like

7390
02:23:31,830 --> 02:23:31,840
It's 67 pages, so forgive me if I'm like
 

7391
02:23:31,840 --> 02:23:34,550
It's 67 pages, so forgive me if I'm like
horribly summarizing this. It's a lot to

7392
02:23:34,550 --> 02:23:34,560
horribly summarizing this. It's a lot to
 

7393
02:23:34,560 --> 02:23:36,150
horribly summarizing this. It's a lot to
read,

7394
02:23:36,150 --> 02:23:36,160
read,
 

7395
02:23:36,160 --> 02:23:39,270
read,
but it's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. So,

7396
02:23:39,270 --> 02:23:39,280
but it's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. So,
 

7397
02:23:39,280 --> 02:23:41,030
but it's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. So,
let's just get the big question out of

7398
02:23:41,030 --> 02:23:41,040
let's just get the big question out of
 

7399
02:23:41,040 --> 02:23:44,389
let's just get the big question out of
the way. Is Dorian like a weirdo? Like,

7400
02:23:44,389 --> 02:23:44,399
the way. Is Dorian like a weirdo? Like,
 

7401
02:23:44,399 --> 02:23:47,670
the way. Is Dorian like a weirdo? Like,
is he like a creepy fetish weird guy

7402
02:23:47,670 --> 02:23:47,680
is he like a creepy fetish weird guy
 

7403
02:23:47,680 --> 02:23:49,750
is he like a creepy fetish weird guy
that like makes people uncomfortable

7404
02:23:49,750 --> 02:23:49,760
that like makes people uncomfortable
 

7405
02:23:49,760 --> 02:23:52,389
that like makes people uncomfortable
ever?

7406
02:23:52,389 --> 02:23:52,399
ever?
 

7407
02:23:52,399 --> 02:23:54,469
ever?
I'm going to say no. I think that you

7408
02:23:54,469 --> 02:23:54,479
I'm going to say no. I think that you
 

7409
02:23:54,479 --> 02:23:57,590
I'm going to say no. I think that you
know what happened here and this is both

7410
02:23:57,590 --> 02:23:57,600
know what happened here and this is both
 

7411
02:23:57,600 --> 02:23:59,830
know what happened here and this is both
of their words. This was them both

7412
02:23:59,830 --> 02:23:59,840
of their words. This was them both
 

7413
02:23:59,840 --> 02:24:02,469
of their words. This was them both
miscommunicating with each other because

7414
02:24:02,469 --> 02:24:02,479
miscommunicating with each other because
 

7415
02:24:02,479 --> 02:24:05,750
miscommunicating with each other because
you know when this was going on Dorian

7416
02:24:05,750 --> 02:24:05,760
you know when this was going on Dorian
 

7417
02:24:05,760 --> 02:24:08,389
you know when this was going on Dorian
does talk about how he the like during

7418
02:24:08,389 --> 02:24:08,399
does talk about how he the like during
 

7419
02:24:08,399 --> 02:24:10,710
does talk about how he the like during
the whole day he had picked up on these

7420
02:24:10,710 --> 02:24:10,720
the whole day he had picked up on these
 

7421
02:24:10,720 --> 02:24:14,389
the whole day he had picked up on these
signals that uh he believed that she had

7422
02:24:14,389 --> 02:24:14,399
signals that uh he believed that she had
 

7423
02:24:14,399 --> 02:24:17,270
signals that uh he believed that she had
liked him. And so during this point at

7424
02:24:17,270 --> 02:24:17,280
liked him. And so during this point at
 

7425
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:21,590
liked him. And so during this point at
night um when there was this uh what he

7426
02:24:21,590 --> 02:24:21,600
night um when there was this uh what he
 

7427
02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:25,030
night um when there was this uh what he
says is that Cesi was cuddling him and

7428
02:24:25,030 --> 02:24:25,040
says is that Cesi was cuddling him and
 

7429
02:24:25,040 --> 02:24:27,270
says is that Cesi was cuddling him and
then he proceeded to cuddle back and ask

7430
02:24:27,270 --> 02:24:27,280
then he proceeded to cuddle back and ask
 

7431
02:24:27,280 --> 02:24:29,750
then he proceeded to cuddle back and ask
is this okay and the miscommunication

7432
02:24:29,750 --> 02:24:29,760
is this okay and the miscommunication
 

7433
02:24:29,760 --> 02:24:32,550
is this okay and the miscommunication
comes from he was asking if cuddling was

7434
02:24:32,550 --> 02:24:32,560
comes from he was asking if cuddling was
 

7435
02:24:32,560 --> 02:24:35,830
comes from he was asking if cuddling was
okay and she was saying yes. However,

7436
02:24:35,830 --> 02:24:35,840
okay and she was saying yes. However,
 

7437
02:24:35,840 --> 02:24:39,030
okay and she was saying yes. However,
Cessie misunderstood this because Cessie

7438
02:24:39,030 --> 02:24:39,040
Cessie misunderstood this because Cessie
 

7439
02:24:39,040 --> 02:24:41,270
Cessie misunderstood this because Cessie
thought that Dorene was asking, I guess,

7440
02:24:41,270 --> 02:24:41,280
thought that Dorene was asking, I guess,
 

7441
02:24:41,280 --> 02:24:43,910
thought that Dorene was asking, I guess,
if she was she was okay with like her

7442
02:24:43,910 --> 02:24:43,920
if she was she was okay with like her
 

7443
02:24:43,920 --> 02:24:45,270
if she was she was okay with like her
nightmares because this was something

7444
02:24:45,270 --> 02:24:45,280
nightmares because this was something
 

7445
02:24:45,280 --> 02:24:47,990
nightmares because this was something
that she had an issue with. So, they

7446
02:24:47,990 --> 02:24:48,000
that she had an issue with. So, they
 

7447
02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:50,150
that she had an issue with. So, they
horribly misunderstood this. You know,

7448
02:24:50,150 --> 02:24:50,160
horribly misunderstood this. You know,
 

7449
02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:51,990
horribly misunderstood this. You know,
Cesy was totally within her right then

7450
02:24:51,990 --> 02:24:52,000
Cesy was totally within her right then
 

7451
02:24:52,000 --> 02:24:54,870
Cesy was totally within her right then
to feel that discomfort and they did

7452
02:24:54,870 --> 02:24:54,880
to feel that discomfort and they did
 

7453
02:24:54,880 --> 02:24:56,389
to feel that discomfort and they did
talk about it. They like talked it out.

7454
02:24:56,389 --> 02:24:56,399
talk about it. They like talked it out.
 

7455
02:24:56,399 --> 02:24:58,870
talk about it. They like talked it out.
So, when she came to me and did talk

7456
02:24:58,870 --> 02:24:58,880
So, when she came to me and did talk
 

7457
02:24:58,880 --> 02:25:01,990
So, when she came to me and did talk
about this, um, I confronted Dorian and

7458
02:25:01,990 --> 02:25:02,000
about this, um, I confronted Dorian and
 

7459
02:25:02,000 --> 02:25:05,190
about this, um, I confronted Dorian and
said, "What the hell is going on?" And

7460
02:25:05,190 --> 02:25:05,200
said, "What the hell is going on?" And
 

7461
02:25:05,200 --> 02:25:07,110
said, "What the hell is going on?" And
during all of this, I was then shown

7462
02:25:07,110 --> 02:25:07,120
during all of this, I was then shown
 

7463
02:25:07,120 --> 02:25:08,790
during all of this, I was then shown
like that they were talking this out and

7464
02:25:08,790 --> 02:25:08,800
like that they were talking this out and
 

7465
02:25:08,800 --> 02:25:11,510
like that they were talking this out and
that they both uh recognized that they

7466
02:25:11,510 --> 02:25:11,520
that they both uh recognized that they
 

7467
02:25:11,520 --> 02:25:13,910
that they both uh recognized that they
just totally misunderstood each other's

7468
02:25:13,910 --> 02:25:13,920
just totally misunderstood each other's
 

7469
02:25:13,920 --> 02:25:15,830
just totally misunderstood each other's
signals. Um this was something they

7470
02:25:15,830 --> 02:25:15,840
signals. Um this was something they
 

7471
02:25:15,840 --> 02:25:17,990
signals. Um this was something they
talked about a few different times and

7472
02:25:17,990 --> 02:25:18,000
talked about a few different times and
 

7473
02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:20,670
talked about a few different times and
um in relevance to like the actual

7474
02:25:20,670 --> 02:25:20,680
um in relevance to like the actual
 

7475
02:25:20,680 --> 02:25:23,590
um in relevance to like the actual
document. Uh we wound up talking

7476
02:25:23,590 --> 02:25:23,600
document. Uh we wound up talking
 

7477
02:25:23,600 --> 02:25:25,750
document. Uh we wound up talking
everything out after the fact. So this

7478
02:25:25,750 --> 02:25:25,760
everything out after the fact. So this
 

7479
02:25:25,760 --> 02:25:27,990
everything out after the fact. So this
was just a very big explosion. We're

7480
02:25:27,990 --> 02:25:28,000
was just a very big explosion. We're
 

7481
02:25:28,000 --> 02:25:30,630
was just a very big explosion. We're
both kind of explaining different on my

7482
02:25:30,630 --> 02:25:30,640
both kind of explaining different on my
 

7483
02:25:30,640 --> 02:25:31,990
both kind of explaining different on my
side this happened and then on this side

7484
02:25:31,990 --> 02:25:32,000
side this happened and then on this side
 

7485
02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:34,309
side this happened and then on this side
this. But we wound up talking everything

7486
02:25:34,309 --> 02:25:34,319
this. But we wound up talking everything
 

7487
02:25:34,319 --> 02:25:37,349
this. But we wound up talking everything
out. Uh just explaining all the facts of

7488
02:25:37,349 --> 02:25:37,359
out. Uh just explaining all the facts of
 

7489
02:25:37,359 --> 02:25:38,990
out. Uh just explaining all the facts of
everything, where we're all at, any

7490
02:25:38,990 --> 02:25:39,000
everything, where we're all at, any
 

7491
02:25:39,000 --> 02:25:41,510
everything, where we're all at, any
misunderstandings, any any kind of

7492
02:25:41,510 --> 02:25:41,520
misunderstandings, any any kind of
 

7493
02:25:41,520 --> 02:25:45,590
misunderstandings, any any kind of
personal feelings, it's all handled. Um

7494
02:25:45,590 --> 02:25:45,600
personal feelings, it's all handled. Um
 

7495
02:25:45,600 --> 02:25:47,990
personal feelings, it's all handled. Um
so we were able to move on from the

7496
02:25:47,990 --> 02:25:48,000
so we were able to move on from the
 

7497
02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:50,630
so we were able to move on from the
situation. We when talking everything

7498
02:25:50,630 --> 02:25:50,640
situation. We when talking everything
 

7499
02:25:50,640 --> 02:25:52,790
situation. We when talking everything
out, we helped each other with like

7500
02:25:52,790 --> 02:25:52,800
out, we helped each other with like
 

7501
02:25:52,800 --> 02:25:54,870
out, we helped each other with like
little statements to like correct a lot

7502
02:25:54,870 --> 02:25:54,880
little statements to like correct a lot
 

7503
02:25:54,880 --> 02:25:56,790
little statements to like correct a lot
of misinformation

7504
02:25:56,790 --> 02:25:56,800
of misinformation
 

7505
02:25:56,800 --> 02:25:58,870
of misinformation
um and stuff like that. and we both put

7506
02:25:58,870 --> 02:25:58,880
um and stuff like that. and we both put
 

7507
02:25:58,880 --> 02:26:06,550
um and stuff like that. and we both put
them out on our profiles. Uh, which

7508
02:26:06,550 --> 02:26:06,560

 

7509
02:26:06,560 --> 02:26:08,389

uh oh, just so there's just so there's

7510
02:26:08,389 --> 02:26:08,399
uh oh, just so there's just so there's
 

7511
02:26:08,399 --> 02:26:10,309
uh oh, just so there's just so there's
no harm. Sorry, I didn't mean to uh stop

7512
02:26:10,309 --> 02:26:10,319
no harm. Sorry, I didn't mean to uh stop
 

7513
02:26:10,319 --> 02:26:12,070
no harm. Sorry, I didn't mean to uh stop
for a second, but uh just so there's

7514
02:26:12,070 --> 02:26:12,080
for a second, but uh just so there's
 

7515
02:26:12,080 --> 02:26:15,590
for a second, but uh just so there's
like no uh happening to each other. So,

7516
02:26:15,590 --> 02:26:15,600
like no uh happening to each other. So,
 

7517
02:26:15,600 --> 02:26:16,710
like no uh happening to each other. So,
this was something that we worked

7518
02:26:16,710 --> 02:26:16,720
this was something that we worked
 

7519
02:26:16,720 --> 02:26:18,550
this was something that we worked
together to do so that there is no more

7520
02:26:18,550 --> 02:26:18,560
together to do so that there is no more
 

7521
02:26:18,560 --> 02:26:20,950
together to do so that there is no more
misinformation. And you know, Cesy does

7522
02:26:20,950 --> 02:26:20,960
misinformation. And you know, Cesy does
 

7523
02:26:20,960 --> 02:26:24,150
misinformation. And you know, Cesy does
reaffirm in her document and in that

7524
02:26:24,150 --> 02:26:24,160
reaffirm in her document and in that
 

7525
02:26:24,160 --> 02:26:26,469
reaffirm in her document and in that
final statement that Dorian is not a

7526
02:26:26,469 --> 02:26:26,479
final statement that Dorian is not a
 

7527
02:26:26,479 --> 02:26:29,910
final statement that Dorian is not a
predator. this was a a a misjudgment

7528
02:26:29,910 --> 02:26:29,920
predator. this was a a a misjudgment
 

7529
02:26:29,920 --> 02:26:32,070
predator. this was a a a misjudgment
because they misunderstood each other

7530
02:26:32,070 --> 02:26:32,080
because they misunderstood each other
 

7531
02:26:32,080 --> 02:26:33,990
because they misunderstood each other
and you know to leave him alone and that

7532
02:26:33,990 --> 02:26:34,000
and you know to leave him alone and that
 

7533
02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:35,830
and you know to leave him alone and that
is not something that should follow him.

7534
02:26:35,830 --> 02:26:35,840
is not something that should follow him.
 

7535
02:26:35,840 --> 02:26:39,349
is not something that should follow him.
So no I because of them both having that

7536
02:26:39,349 --> 02:26:39,359
So no I because of them both having that
 

7537
02:26:39,359 --> 02:26:41,270
So no I because of them both having that
agreement of that being the case. No,

7538
02:26:41,270 --> 02:26:41,280
agreement of that being the case. No,
 

7539
02:26:41,280 --> 02:26:43,510
agreement of that being the case. No,
Dorian is not some horrible creepy

7540
02:26:43,510 --> 02:26:43,520
Dorian is not some horrible creepy
 

7541
02:26:43,520 --> 02:26:46,550
Dorian is not some horrible creepy
predator. Gotcha. Is there any like ill

7542
02:26:46,550 --> 02:26:46,560
predator. Gotcha. Is there any like ill
 

7543
02:26:46,560 --> 02:26:48,389
predator. Gotcha. Is there any like ill
feelings towards Cesy at all? Because I

7544
02:26:48,389 --> 02:26:48,399
feelings towards Cesy at all? Because I
 

7545
02:26:48,399 --> 02:26:49,830
feelings towards Cesy at all? Because I
mean according to their document a lot

7546
02:26:49,830 --> 02:26:49,840
mean according to their document a lot
 

7547
02:26:49,840 --> 02:26:51,270
mean according to their document a lot
of this like caused them a lot of stress

7548
02:26:51,270 --> 02:26:51,280
of this like caused them a lot of stress
 

7549
02:26:51,280 --> 02:26:53,990
of this like caused them a lot of stress
and a lot of like emotional anguish to

7550
02:26:53,990 --> 02:26:54,000
and a lot of like emotional anguish to
 

7551
02:26:54,000 --> 02:26:55,270
and a lot of like emotional anguish to
want to take their own lives and stuff

7552
02:26:55,270 --> 02:26:55,280
want to take their own lives and stuff
 

7553
02:26:55,280 --> 02:26:57,030
want to take their own lives and stuff
like are you guys on good terms? Did you

7554
02:26:57,030 --> 02:26:57,040
like are you guys on good terms? Did you
 

7555
02:26:57,040 --> 02:26:58,550
like are you guys on good terms? Did you
guys end up working that whole thing out

7556
02:26:58,550 --> 02:26:58,560
guys end up working that whole thing out
 

7557
02:26:58,560 --> 02:27:01,590
guys end up working that whole thing out
even between you two?

7558
02:27:01,590 --> 02:27:01,600
even between you two?
 

7559
02:27:01,600 --> 02:27:03,750
even between you two?
I mean we like again we talked it out

7560
02:27:03,750 --> 02:27:03,760
I mean we like again we talked it out
 

7561
02:27:03,760 --> 02:27:06,550
I mean we like again we talked it out
and you know it was very like we both

7562
02:27:06,550 --> 02:27:06,560
and you know it was very like we both
 

7563
02:27:06,560 --> 02:27:08,950
and you know it was very like we both
were having those feelings of like you

7564
02:27:08,950 --> 02:27:08,960
were having those feelings of like you
 

7565
02:27:08,960 --> 02:27:11,270
were having those feelings of like you
know there was a point where even I was

7566
02:27:11,270 --> 02:27:11,280
know there was a point where even I was
 

7567
02:27:11,280 --> 02:27:12,950
know there was a point where even I was
considering suicide because of all of

7568
02:27:12,950 --> 02:27:12,960
considering suicide because of all of
 

7569
02:27:12,960 --> 02:27:15,910
considering suicide because of all of
that too and you know luckily we talked

7570
02:27:15,910 --> 02:27:15,920
that too and you know luckily we talked
 

7571
02:27:15,920 --> 02:27:18,710
that too and you know luckily we talked
it out but we also determined through

7572
02:27:18,710 --> 02:27:18,720
it out but we also determined through
 

7573
02:27:18,720 --> 02:27:20,630
it out but we also determined through
all of these experiences that this

7574
02:27:20,630 --> 02:27:20,640
all of these experiences that this
 

7575
02:27:20,640 --> 02:27:22,550
all of these experiences that this
wasn't a relationship that we both

7576
02:27:22,550 --> 02:27:22,560
wasn't a relationship that we both
 

7577
02:27:22,560 --> 02:27:25,030
wasn't a relationship that we both
wanted to continue. So it's like, hey,

7578
02:27:25,030 --> 02:27:25,040
wanted to continue. So it's like, hey,
 

7579
02:27:25,040 --> 02:27:26,790
wanted to continue. So it's like, hey,
you know, it's it's handled. It's talked

7580
02:27:26,790 --> 02:27:26,800
you know, it's it's handled. It's talked
 

7581
02:27:26,800 --> 02:27:30,389
you know, it's it's handled. It's talked
out, but we respectfully go our separate

7582
02:27:30,389 --> 02:27:30,399
out, but we respectfully go our separate
 

7583
02:27:30,399 --> 02:27:33,270
out, but we respectfully go our separate
ways. No ill will towards her, you know,

7584
02:27:33,270 --> 02:27:33,280
ways. No ill will towards her, you know,
 

7585
02:27:33,280 --> 02:27:35,590
ways. No ill will towards her, you know,
and that's what that is. In fact, we

7586
02:27:35,590 --> 02:27:35,600
and that's what that is. In fact, we
 

7587
02:27:35,600 --> 02:27:37,429
and that's what that is. In fact, we
actually have sort of this pact that

7588
02:27:37,429 --> 02:27:37,439
actually have sort of this pact that
 

7589
02:27:37,439 --> 02:27:39,429
actually have sort of this pact that
we've made and that's if somebody is

7590
02:27:39,429 --> 02:27:39,439
we've made and that's if somebody is
 

7591
02:27:39,439 --> 02:27:41,429
we've made and that's if somebody is
sort of harassing the other, you know,

7592
02:27:41,429 --> 02:27:41,439
sort of harassing the other, you know,
 

7593
02:27:41,439 --> 02:27:43,910
sort of harassing the other, you know,
we reach out to the other person. You

7594
02:27:43,910 --> 02:27:43,920
we reach out to the other person. You
 

7595
02:27:43,920 --> 02:27:46,070
we reach out to the other person. You
know, Cesy reached out to my partner

7596
02:27:46,070 --> 02:27:46,080
know, Cesy reached out to my partner
 

7597
02:27:46,080 --> 02:27:47,830
know, Cesy reached out to my partner
recently and said, "Hey, somebody's

7598
02:27:47,830 --> 02:27:47,840
recently and said, "Hey, somebody's
 

7599
02:27:47,840 --> 02:27:49,429
recently and said, "Hey, somebody's
bringing up the drama again." And

7600
02:27:49,429 --> 02:27:49,439
bringing up the drama again." And
 

7601
02:27:49,439 --> 02:27:51,590
bringing up the drama again." And
Cameron stepped in to say, "Hey, don't

7602
02:27:51,590 --> 02:27:51,600
Cameron stepped in to say, "Hey, don't
 

7603
02:27:51,600 --> 02:27:54,150
Cameron stepped in to say, "Hey, don't
harass Sessie." And the same is meant

7604
02:27:54,150 --> 02:27:54,160
harass Sessie." And the same is meant
 

7605
02:27:54,160 --> 02:27:57,270
harass Sessie." And the same is meant
for us if that is the case. Okay. So I

7606
02:27:57,270 --> 02:27:57,280
for us if that is the case. Okay. So I
 

7607
02:27:57,280 --> 02:27:59,270
for us if that is the case. Okay. So I
mean even though you guys are like not

7608
02:27:59,270 --> 02:27:59,280
mean even though you guys are like not
 

7609
02:27:59,280 --> 02:28:01,030
mean even though you guys are like not
close friends anymore at least you guys

7610
02:28:01,030 --> 02:28:01,040
close friends anymore at least you guys
 

7611
02:28:01,040 --> 02:28:03,270
close friends anymore at least you guys
are all all on the same page kind of

7612
02:28:03,270 --> 02:28:03,280
are all all on the same page kind of
 

7613
02:28:03,280 --> 02:28:06,070
are all all on the same page kind of
thing. Yeah. It's like it's amicable

7614
02:28:06,070 --> 02:28:06,080
thing. Yeah. It's like it's amicable
 

7615
02:28:06,080 --> 02:28:09,510
thing. Yeah. It's like it's amicable
right? Like it's all it's fine but you

7616
02:28:09,510 --> 02:28:09,520
right? Like it's all it's fine but you
 

7617
02:28:09,520 --> 02:28:12,150
right? Like it's all it's fine but you
know when you have something like that

7618
02:28:12,150 --> 02:28:12,160
know when you have something like that
 

7619
02:28:12,160 --> 02:28:15,990
know when you have something like that
happen it it is hard to be friends in

7620
02:28:15,990 --> 02:28:16,000
happen it it is hard to be friends in
 

7621
02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:18,309
happen it it is hard to be friends in
that you know it like for both parties

7622
02:28:18,309 --> 02:28:18,319
that you know it like for both parties
 

7623
02:28:18,319 --> 02:28:20,950
that you know it like for both parties
right like it's just that was a lot that

7624
02:28:20,950 --> 02:28:20,960
right like it's just that was a lot that
 

7625
02:28:20,960 --> 02:28:23,429
right like it's just that was a lot that
was a lot of stuff. And so we're able to

7626
02:28:23,429 --> 02:28:23,439
was a lot of stuff. And so we're able to
 

7627
02:28:23,439 --> 02:28:25,349
was a lot of stuff. And so we're able to
both be adults about it and acknowledge,

7628
02:28:25,349 --> 02:28:25,359
both be adults about it and acknowledge,
 

7629
02:28:25,359 --> 02:28:27,270
both be adults about it and acknowledge,
you know, this friendship is not for us,

7630
02:28:27,270 --> 02:28:27,280
you know, this friendship is not for us,
 

7631
02:28:27,280 --> 02:28:30,150
you know, this friendship is not for us,
but it's all handled. All of the

7632
02:28:30,150 --> 02:28:30,160
but it's all handled. All of the
 

7633
02:28:30,160 --> 02:28:32,950
but it's all handled. All of the
horrible misinformation going on both

7634
02:28:32,950 --> 02:28:32,960
horrible misinformation going on both
 

7635
02:28:32,960 --> 02:28:36,389
horrible misinformation going on both
ends were taken care of and no ill will

7636
02:28:36,389 --> 02:28:36,399
ends were taken care of and no ill will
 

7637
02:28:36,399 --> 02:28:39,110
ends were taken care of and no ill will
at all. That's good. I mean, you know,

7638
02:28:39,110 --> 02:28:39,120
at all. That's good. I mean, you know,
 

7639
02:28:39,120 --> 02:28:41,110
at all. That's good. I mean, you know,
let bygones be bygones kind of thing,

7640
02:28:41,110 --> 02:28:41,120
let bygones be bygones kind of thing,
 

7641
02:28:41,120 --> 02:28:42,790
let bygones be bygones kind of thing,
but you know, it's I I can totally

7642
02:28:42,790 --> 02:28:42,800
but you know, it's I I can totally
 

7643
02:28:42,800 --> 02:28:44,950
but you know, it's I I can totally
understand it being very hard to still

7644
02:28:44,950 --> 02:28:44,960
understand it being very hard to still
 

7645
02:28:44,960 --> 02:28:46,710
understand it being very hard to still
be friends after that cuz like I mean,

7646
02:28:46,710 --> 02:28:46,720
be friends after that cuz like I mean,
 

7647
02:28:46,720 --> 02:28:48,230
be friends after that cuz like I mean,
she made an accusation that you

7648
02:28:48,230 --> 02:28:48,240
she made an accusation that you
 

7649
02:28:48,240 --> 02:28:50,070
she made an accusation that you
supported somebody who is like predatory

7650
02:28:50,070 --> 02:28:50,080
supported somebody who is like predatory
 

7651
02:28:50,080 --> 02:28:51,990
supported somebody who is like predatory
towards her. That's a it's a little hard

7652
02:28:51,990 --> 02:28:52,000
towards her. That's a it's a little hard
 

7653
02:28:52,000 --> 02:28:54,070
towards her. That's a it's a little hard
to be friends again after that. I agree.

7654
02:28:54,070 --> 02:28:54,080
to be friends again after that. I agree.
 

7655
02:28:54,080 --> 02:28:58,230
to be friends again after that. I agree.
It's a little it's a bit much.

7656
02:28:58,230 --> 02:28:58,240
It's a little it's a bit much.
 

7657
02:28:58,240 --> 02:29:00,469
It's a little it's a bit much.
It's it is hard, right? You know, it

7658
02:29:00,469 --> 02:29:00,479
It's it is hard, right? You know, it
 

7659
02:29:00,479 --> 02:29:03,110
It's it is hard, right? You know, it
it's just how can you at that point? And

7660
02:29:03,110 --> 02:29:03,120
it's just how can you at that point? And
 

7661
02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:05,030
it's just how can you at that point? And
that's okay. You know, it's it's okay.

7662
02:29:05,030 --> 02:29:05,040
that's okay. You know, it's it's okay.
 

7663
02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:06,550
that's okay. You know, it's it's okay.
Again, stuff like that happens.

7664
02:29:06,550 --> 02:29:06,560
Again, stuff like that happens.
 

7665
02:29:06,560 --> 02:29:08,230
Again, stuff like that happens.
Miscommunication happens. Friendships

7666
02:29:08,230 --> 02:29:08,240
Miscommunication happens. Friendships
 

7667
02:29:08,240 --> 02:29:10,550
Miscommunication happens. Friendships
spats happen. You know, probably not

7668
02:29:10,550 --> 02:29:10,560
spats happen. You know, probably not
 

7669
02:29:10,560 --> 02:29:12,710
spats happen. You know, probably not
publicly. It shouldn't be public, but in

7670
02:29:12,710 --> 02:29:12,720
publicly. It shouldn't be public, but in
 

7671
02:29:12,720 --> 02:29:15,030
publicly. It shouldn't be public, but in
this case, it did. And, you know, at

7672
02:29:15,030 --> 02:29:15,040
this case, it did. And, you know, at
 

7673
02:29:15,040 --> 02:29:18,070
this case, it did. And, you know, at
least I'm just happy that we're able to

7674
02:29:18,070 --> 02:29:18,080
least I'm just happy that we're able to
 

7675
02:29:18,080 --> 02:29:19,510
least I'm just happy that we're able to
move from it, you know, like just move

7676
02:29:19,510 --> 02:29:19,520
move from it, you know, like just move
 

7677
02:29:19,520 --> 02:29:21,349
move from it, you know, like just move
on. And I'm glad that we talked it out.

7678
02:29:21,349 --> 02:29:21,359
on. And I'm glad that we talked it out.
 

7679
02:29:21,359 --> 02:29:24,389
on. And I'm glad that we talked it out.
Really, I am. Right now, I now that

7680
02:29:24,389 --> 02:29:24,399
Really, I am. Right now, I now that
 

7681
02:29:24,399 --> 02:29:25,670
Really, I am. Right now, I now that
we've kind of gone over at least

7682
02:29:25,670 --> 02:29:25,680
we've kind of gone over at least
 

7683
02:29:25,680 --> 02:29:26,950
we've kind of gone over at least
absolutely everything that I can

7684
02:29:26,950 --> 02:29:26,960
absolutely everything that I can
 

7685
02:29:26,960 --> 02:29:30,790
absolutely everything that I can
possibly think of, right? Let's just get

7686
02:29:30,790 --> 02:29:30,800
possibly think of, right? Let's just get
 

7687
02:29:30,800 --> 02:29:34,150
possibly think of, right? Let's just get
this clear. Even if you are like the

7688
02:29:34,150 --> 02:29:34,160
this clear. Even if you are like the
 

7689
02:29:34,160 --> 02:29:37,429
this clear. Even if you are like the
most abominable person ever, let's say

7690
02:29:37,429 --> 02:29:37,439
most abominable person ever, let's say
 

7691
02:29:37,439 --> 02:29:38,790
most abominable person ever, let's say
that everything that everyone in the

7692
02:29:38,790 --> 02:29:38,800
that everything that everyone in the
 

7693
02:29:38,800 --> 02:29:40,309
that everything that everyone in the
internet has ever said about you is

7694
02:29:40,309 --> 02:29:40,319
internet has ever said about you is
 

7695
02:29:40,319 --> 02:29:43,590
internet has ever said about you is
true. Does that inherently mean that

7696
02:29:43,590 --> 02:29:43,600
true. Does that inherently mean that
 

7697
02:29:43,600 --> 02:29:45,110
true. Does that inherently mean that
when it comes to everything about Saber

7698
02:29:45,110 --> 02:29:45,120
when it comes to everything about Saber
 

7699
02:29:45,120 --> 02:29:47,429
when it comes to everything about Saber
Spark that you just would make this kind

7700
02:29:47,429 --> 02:29:47,439
Spark that you just would make this kind
 

7701
02:29:47,439 --> 02:29:49,830
Spark that you just would make this kind
of thing up or this would be I I can see

7702
02:29:49,830 --> 02:29:49,840
of thing up or this would be I I can see
 

7703
02:29:49,840 --> 02:29:51,590
of thing up or this would be I I can see
why people would come to that conclusion

7704
02:29:51,590 --> 02:29:51,600
why people would come to that conclusion
 

7705
02:29:51,600 --> 02:29:53,270
why people would come to that conclusion
that it's like, "Oh, she's lied before.

7706
02:29:53,270 --> 02:29:53,280
that it's like, "Oh, she's lied before.
 

7707
02:29:53,280 --> 02:29:55,750
that it's like, "Oh, she's lied before.
She must be lying about this." However,

7708
02:29:55,750 --> 02:29:55,760
She must be lying about this." However,
 

7709
02:29:55,760 --> 02:29:57,750
She must be lying about this." However,
given that we just had this conversation

7710
02:29:57,750 --> 02:29:57,760
given that we just had this conversation
 

7711
02:29:57,760 --> 02:30:00,630
given that we just had this conversation
where you gave us ex like more context

7712
02:30:00,630 --> 02:30:00,640
where you gave us ex like more context
 

7713
02:30:00,640 --> 02:30:02,150
where you gave us ex like more context
to all these things that you've been

7714
02:30:02,150 --> 02:30:02,160
to all these things that you've been
 

7715
02:30:02,160 --> 02:30:05,030
to all these things that you've been
accused of, even if you were like the e

7716
02:30:05,030 --> 02:30:05,040
accused of, even if you were like the e
 

7717
02:30:05,040 --> 02:30:07,190
accused of, even if you were like the e
most evil person ever, I think bad

7718
02:30:07,190 --> 02:30:07,200
most evil person ever, I think bad
 

7719
02:30:07,200 --> 02:30:09,590
most evil person ever, I think bad
things do happen to bad people. And I

7720
02:30:09,590 --> 02:30:09,600
things do happen to bad people. And I
 

7721
02:30:09,600 --> 02:30:11,990
things do happen to bad people. And I
don't think that things that previous

7722
02:30:11,990 --> 02:30:12,000
don't think that things that previous
 

7723
02:30:12,000 --> 02:30:13,670
don't think that things that previous
controversies that's happened well over

7724
02:30:13,670 --> 02:30:13,680
controversies that's happened well over
 

7725
02:30:13,680 --> 02:30:15,910
controversies that's happened well over
10 years ago should determine whether or

7726
02:30:15,910 --> 02:30:15,920
10 years ago should determine whether or
 

7727
02:30:15,920 --> 02:30:18,230
10 years ago should determine whether or
not you're being truthful about this now

7728
02:30:18,230 --> 02:30:18,240
not you're being truthful about this now
 

7729
02:30:18,240 --> 02:30:19,830
not you're being truthful about this now
because we have to look at like the

7730
02:30:19,830 --> 02:30:19,840
because we have to look at like the
 

7731
02:30:19,840 --> 02:30:21,270
because we have to look at like the
context of what we're talking about.

7732
02:30:21,270 --> 02:30:21,280
context of what we're talking about.
 

7733
02:30:21,280 --> 02:30:23,510
context of what we're talking about.
Like, you know, and I get that this is

7734
02:30:23,510 --> 02:30:23,520
Like, you know, and I get that this is
 

7735
02:30:23,520 --> 02:30:25,750
Like, you know, and I get that this is
digging up 10-year-old [\h__\h] but like,

7736
02:30:25,750 --> 02:30:25,760
digging up 10-year-old [\h__\h] but like,
 

7737
02:30:25,760 --> 02:30:28,550
digging up 10-year-old [\h__\h] but like,
you know, does this [\h__\h] line up? You

7738
02:30:28,550 --> 02:30:28,560
you know, does this [\h__\h] line up? You
 

7739
02:30:28,560 --> 02:30:30,389
you know, does this [\h__\h] line up? You
know, maybe they did lie about a couple

7740
02:30:30,389 --> 02:30:30,399
know, maybe they did lie about a couple
 

7741
02:30:30,399 --> 02:30:31,590
know, maybe they did lie about a couple
things in the past, but does that mean

7742
02:30:31,590 --> 02:30:31,600
things in the past, but does that mean
 

7743
02:30:31,600 --> 02:30:33,830
things in the past, but does that mean
they're lying about this? No. I think if

7744
02:30:33,830 --> 02:30:33,840
they're lying about this? No. I think if
 

7745
02:30:33,840 --> 02:30:35,830
they're lying about this? No. I think if
we're immediately jumping to that, I

7746
02:30:35,830 --> 02:30:35,840
we're immediately jumping to that, I
 

7747
02:30:35,840 --> 02:30:36,950
we're immediately jumping to that, I
don't think that's fair because then

7748
02:30:36,950 --> 02:30:36,960
don't think that's fair because then
 

7749
02:30:36,960 --> 02:30:39,110
don't think that's fair because then
that means that nobody actually goes

7750
02:30:39,110 --> 02:30:39,120
that means that nobody actually goes
 

7751
02:30:39,120 --> 02:30:41,110
that means that nobody actually goes
through and looks through and vets the

7752
02:30:41,110 --> 02:30:41,120
through and looks through and vets the
 

7753
02:30:41,120 --> 02:30:43,349
through and looks through and vets the
story at all, which I'm glad it took me

7754
02:30:43,349 --> 02:30:43,359
story at all, which I'm glad it took me
 

7755
02:30:43,359 --> 02:30:48,150
story at all, which I'm glad it took me
a bit, but I did, you know, yay me.

7756
02:30:48,150 --> 02:30:48,160
a bit, but I did, you know, yay me.
 

7757
02:30:48,160 --> 02:30:51,429
a bit, but I did, you know, yay me.
Yes. I'm And I would I'd say the issue

7758
02:30:51,429 --> 02:30:51,439
Yes. I'm And I would I'd say the issue
 

7759
02:30:51,439 --> 02:30:54,150
Yes. I'm And I would I'd say the issue
with that mindset is that it it

7760
02:30:54,150 --> 02:30:54,160
with that mindset is that it it
 

7761
02:30:54,160 --> 02:30:56,950
with that mindset is that it it
perpetuates the idea that, you know, a

7762
02:30:56,950 --> 02:30:56,960
perpetuates the idea that, you know, a
 

7763
02:30:56,960 --> 02:30:59,270
perpetuates the idea that, you know, a
victim has to be innocent in everything

7764
02:30:59,270 --> 02:30:59,280
victim has to be innocent in everything
 

7765
02:30:59,280 --> 02:31:00,710
victim has to be innocent in everything
in order for them to be telling the

7766
02:31:00,710 --> 02:31:00,720
in order for them to be telling the
 

7767
02:31:00,720 --> 02:31:02,630
in order for them to be telling the
truth. And that's just not true. And

7768
02:31:02,630 --> 02:31:02,640
truth. And that's just not true. And
 

7769
02:31:02,640 --> 02:31:04,950
truth. And that's just not true. And
it's actually very harmful and silencing

7770
02:31:04,950 --> 02:31:04,960
it's actually very harmful and silencing
 

7771
02:31:04,960 --> 02:31:07,590
it's actually very harmful and silencing
to people who do deal with these things

7772
02:31:07,590 --> 02:31:07,600
to people who do deal with these things
 

7773
02:31:07,600 --> 02:31:10,469
to people who do deal with these things
because you know, look, when it comes to

7774
02:31:10,469 --> 02:31:10,479
because you know, look, when it comes to
 

7775
02:31:10,479 --> 02:31:13,590
because you know, look, when it comes to
bad people, most of these bad people had

7776
02:31:13,590 --> 02:31:13,600
bad people, most of these bad people had
 

7777
02:31:13,600 --> 02:31:15,590
bad people, most of these bad people had
something horrible happen to them that

7778
02:31:15,590 --> 02:31:15,600
something horrible happen to them that
 

7779
02:31:15,600 --> 02:31:18,150
something horrible happen to them that
caused them to be a bad person. No one

7780
02:31:18,150 --> 02:31:18,160
caused them to be a bad person. No one
 

7781
02:31:18,160 --> 02:31:20,070
caused them to be a bad person. No one
just becomes a bad person out of the

7782
02:31:20,070 --> 02:31:20,080
just becomes a bad person out of the
 

7783
02:31:20,080 --> 02:31:22,630
just becomes a bad person out of the
womb. Yeah. It's like a perfect victim

7784
02:31:22,630 --> 02:31:22,640
womb. Yeah. It's like a perfect victim
 

7785
02:31:22,640 --> 02:31:24,389
womb. Yeah. It's like a perfect victim
complex, right? It It's one of those

7786
02:31:24,389 --> 02:31:24,399
complex, right? It It's one of those
 

7787
02:31:24,399 --> 02:31:25,670
complex, right? It It's one of those
things where people are just like, if

7788
02:31:25,670 --> 02:31:25,680
things where people are just like, if
 

7789
02:31:25,680 --> 02:31:27,270
things where people are just like, if
you come out about this sort of thing,

7790
02:31:27,270 --> 02:31:27,280
you come out about this sort of thing,
 

7791
02:31:27,280 --> 02:31:28,870
you come out about this sort of thing,
you have to be the absolute perfect

7792
02:31:28,870 --> 02:31:28,880
you have to be the absolute perfect
 

7793
02:31:28,880 --> 02:31:31,429
you have to be the absolute perfect
angel about everything else. And I you

7794
02:31:31,429 --> 02:31:31,439
angel about everything else. And I you
 

7795
02:31:31,439 --> 02:31:33,230
angel about everything else. And I you
it is harmful. Yeah. Because then it's

7796
02:31:33,230 --> 02:31:33,240
it is harmful. Yeah. Because then it's
 

7797
02:31:33,240 --> 02:31:35,910
it is harmful. Yeah. Because then it's
like like Casey was trying to do trying

7798
02:31:35,910 --> 02:31:35,920
like like Casey was trying to do trying
 

7799
02:31:35,920 --> 02:31:37,910
like like Casey was trying to do trying
to bring all this stuff against you as

7800
02:31:37,910 --> 02:31:37,920
to bring all this stuff against you as
 

7801
02:31:37,920 --> 02:31:39,750
to bring all this stuff against you as
like something that's like you shouldn't

7802
02:31:39,750 --> 02:31:39,760
like something that's like you shouldn't
 

7803
02:31:39,760 --> 02:31:41,110
like something that's like you shouldn't
believe a thing they're saying because

7804
02:31:41,110 --> 02:31:41,120
believe a thing they're saying because
 

7805
02:31:41,120 --> 02:31:42,870
believe a thing they're saying because
of all this. And it's like well maybe if

7806
02:31:42,870 --> 02:31:42,880
of all this. And it's like well maybe if
 

7807
02:31:42,880 --> 02:31:44,389
of all this. And it's like well maybe if
you have a sit down conversation with

7808
02:31:44,389 --> 02:31:44,399
you have a sit down conversation with
 

7809
02:31:44,399 --> 02:31:46,070
you have a sit down conversation with
them you might get all of the extra

7810
02:31:46,070 --> 02:31:46,080
them you might get all of the extra
 

7811
02:31:46,080 --> 02:31:48,230
them you might get all of the extra
context that's been missing cuz I mean

7812
02:31:48,230 --> 02:31:48,240
context that's been missing cuz I mean
 

7813
02:31:48,240 --> 02:31:50,950
context that's been missing cuz I mean
it's been this is over 10 years worth of

7814
02:31:50,950 --> 02:31:50,960
it's been this is over 10 years worth of
 

7815
02:31:50,960 --> 02:31:53,030
it's been this is over 10 years worth of
your career, right? Things are going to

7816
02:31:53,030 --> 02:31:53,040
your career, right? Things are going to
 

7817
02:31:53,040 --> 02:31:55,270
your career, right? Things are going to
be lost in the sauce a little bit after

7818
02:31:55,270 --> 02:31:55,280
be lost in the sauce a little bit after
 

7819
02:31:55,280 --> 02:32:00,150
be lost in the sauce a little bit after
five to 10 years. So like

7820
02:32:00,150 --> 02:32:00,160

 

7821
02:32:00,160 --> 02:32:03,270

even imagine a lot of people now would

7822
02:32:03,270 --> 02:32:03,280
even imagine a lot of people now would
 

7823
02:32:03,280 --> 02:32:05,429
even imagine a lot of people now would
be able to know who like blueeyed is

7824
02:32:05,429 --> 02:32:05,439
be able to know who like blueeyed is
 

7825
02:32:05,439 --> 02:32:08,790
be able to know who like blueeyed is
because I don't think she's online as

7826
02:32:08,790 --> 02:32:08,800
because I don't think she's online as
 

7827
02:32:08,800 --> 02:32:11,030
because I don't think she's online as
much now. So there are people who maybe

7828
02:32:11,030 --> 02:32:11,040
much now. So there are people who maybe
 

7829
02:32:11,040 --> 02:32:12,710
much now. So there are people who maybe
they're new and they they don't know

7830
02:32:12,710 --> 02:32:12,720
they're new and they they don't know
 

7831
02:32:12,720 --> 02:32:15,349
they're new and they they don't know
like how not all the information

7832
02:32:15,349 --> 02:32:15,359
like how not all the information
 

7833
02:32:15,359 --> 02:32:17,910
like how not all the information
available or or easy to find. You know

7834
02:32:17,910 --> 02:32:17,920
available or or easy to find. You know
 

7835
02:32:17,920 --> 02:32:19,990
available or or easy to find. You know
what I mean? Mhm. I certainly thought

7836
02:32:19,990 --> 02:32:20,000
what I mean? Mhm. I certainly thought
 

7837
02:32:20,000 --> 02:32:21,190
what I mean? Mhm. I certainly thought
when I first started hearing all this

7838
02:32:21,190 --> 02:32:21,200
when I first started hearing all this
 

7839
02:32:21,200 --> 02:32:23,190
when I first started hearing all this
stuff that this was like like easily

7840
02:32:23,190 --> 02:32:23,200
stuff that this was like like easily
 

7841
02:32:23,200 --> 02:32:24,870
stuff that this was like like easily
accessible like information that people

7842
02:32:24,870 --> 02:32:24,880
accessible like information that people
 

7843
02:32:24,880 --> 02:32:26,790
accessible like information that people
have known about or whatever the hell,

7844
02:32:26,790 --> 02:32:26,800
have known about or whatever the hell,
 

7845
02:32:26,800 --> 02:32:30,230
have known about or whatever the hell,
you know, but you know, knowing that

7846
02:32:30,230 --> 02:32:30,240
you know, but you know, knowing that
 

7847
02:32:30,240 --> 02:32:32,469
you know, but you know, knowing that
this stuff is really old and ancient

7848
02:32:32,469 --> 02:32:32,479
this stuff is really old and ancient
 

7849
02:32:32,479 --> 02:32:36,150
this stuff is really old and ancient
online in the era kind of things puts it

7850
02:32:36,150 --> 02:32:36,160
online in the era kind of things puts it
 

7851
02:32:36,160 --> 02:32:37,830
online in the era kind of things puts it
in perspective of like, well, is there

7852
02:32:37,830 --> 02:32:37,840
in perspective of like, well, is there
 

7853
02:32:37,840 --> 02:32:40,389
in perspective of like, well, is there
anything missing contextwise cuz it's

7854
02:32:40,389 --> 02:32:40,399
anything missing contextwise cuz it's
 

7855
02:32:40,399 --> 02:32:43,750
anything missing contextwise cuz it's
been 10 years and are all these people

7856
02:32:43,750 --> 02:32:43,760
been 10 years and are all these people
 

7857
02:32:43,760 --> 02:32:45,030
been 10 years and are all these people
willing to talk about it kind of thing.

7858
02:32:45,030 --> 02:32:45,040
willing to talk about it kind of thing.
 

7859
02:32:45,040 --> 02:32:46,870
willing to talk about it kind of thing.
And so many of them aren't really cuz

7860
02:32:46,870 --> 02:32:46,880
And so many of them aren't really cuz
 

7861
02:32:46,880 --> 02:32:48,389
And so many of them aren't really cuz
like you said, Blue-Eyed Fox is really

7862
02:32:48,389 --> 02:32:48,399
like you said, Blue-Eyed Fox is really
 

7863
02:32:48,399 --> 02:32:51,590
like you said, Blue-Eyed Fox is really
online and you know, uh I'm sure Lizzie

7864
02:32:51,590 --> 02:32:51,600
online and you know, uh I'm sure Lizzie
 

7865
02:32:51,600 --> 02:32:53,429
online and you know, uh I'm sure Lizzie
is hopefully being peaceful and doing

7866
02:32:53,429 --> 02:32:53,439
is hopefully being peaceful and doing
 

7867
02:32:53,439 --> 02:32:58,230
is hopefully being peaceful and doing
her own things now. Probably. Hopefully.

7868
02:32:58,230 --> 02:32:58,240
her own things now. Probably. Hopefully.
 

7869
02:32:58,240 --> 02:33:01,830
her own things now. Probably. Hopefully.
No. Okay. Like kind of I mean kind of

7870
02:33:01,830 --> 02:33:01,840
No. Okay. Like kind of I mean kind of
 

7871
02:33:01,840 --> 02:33:03,830
No. Okay. Like kind of I mean kind of
recently. It's kind of calmed down a

7872
02:33:03,830 --> 02:33:03,840
recently. It's kind of calmed down a
 

7873
02:33:03,840 --> 02:33:06,469
recently. It's kind of calmed down a
little bit. But like I said, even more

7874
02:33:06,469 --> 02:33:06,479
little bit. But like I said, even more
 

7875
02:33:06,479 --> 02:33:08,790
little bit. But like I said, even more
recently, like she just apparently on

7876
02:33:08,790 --> 02:33:08,800
recently, like she just apparently on
 

7877
02:33:08,800 --> 02:33:11,670
recently, like she just apparently on
her Instagram, there are many comments

7878
02:33:11,670 --> 02:33:11,680
her Instagram, there are many comments
 

7879
02:33:11,680 --> 02:33:14,469
her Instagram, there are many comments
just about me and it's just me minding

7880
02:33:14,469 --> 02:33:14,479
just about me and it's just me minding
 

7881
02:33:14,479 --> 02:33:16,230
just about me and it's just me minding
my business tweeting stuff and she's

7882
02:33:16,230 --> 02:33:16,240
my business tweeting stuff and she's
 

7883
02:33:16,240 --> 02:33:17,990
my business tweeting stuff and she's
just she has something to say about it.

7884
02:33:17,990 --> 02:33:18,000
just she has something to say about it.
 

7885
02:33:18,000 --> 02:33:21,190
just she has something to say about it.
Sure. So, you know, I I hope best, but

7886
02:33:21,190 --> 02:33:21,200
Sure. So, you know, I I hope best, but
 

7887
02:33:21,200 --> 02:33:24,550
Sure. So, you know, I I hope best, but
you know, I mean, she seems very

7888
02:33:24,550 --> 02:33:24,560
you know, I mean, she seems very
 

7889
02:33:24,560 --> 02:33:26,389
you know, I mean, she seems very
determined. At least you can say one of

7890
02:33:26,389 --> 02:33:26,399
determined. At least you can say one of
 

7891
02:33:26,399 --> 02:33:27,830
determined. At least you can say one of
the positives is at least she's

7892
02:33:27,830 --> 02:33:27,840
the positives is at least she's
 

7893
02:33:27,840 --> 02:33:30,710
the positives is at least she's
consistent. I suppose it's a horrible

7894
02:33:30,710 --> 02:33:30,720
consistent. I suppose it's a horrible
 

7895
02:33:30,720 --> 02:33:32,230
consistent. I suppose it's a horrible
way of looking at it, but you get what

7896
02:33:32,230 --> 02:33:32,240
way of looking at it, but you get what
 

7897
02:33:32,240 --> 02:33:36,309
way of looking at it, but you get what
I'm saying. No, I totally do. So, let's

7898
02:33:36,309 --> 02:33:36,319
I'm saying. No, I totally do. So, let's
 

7899
02:33:36,319 --> 02:33:39,349
I'm saying. No, I totally do. So, let's
let's let's go into this real quick. Um,

7900
02:33:39,349 --> 02:33:39,359
let's let's go into this real quick. Um,
 

7901
02:33:39,359 --> 02:33:41,190
let's let's go into this real quick. Um,
I get that this is not an easy thing to

7902
02:33:41,190 --> 02:33:41,200
I get that this is not an easy thing to
 

7903
02:33:41,200 --> 02:33:43,030
I get that this is not an easy thing to
talk about because I mean it's it's

7904
02:33:43,030 --> 02:33:43,040
talk about because I mean it's it's
 

7905
02:33:43,040 --> 02:33:45,510
talk about because I mean it's it's
Saber Spark. He's a big guy. It's bit

7906
02:33:45,510 --> 02:33:45,520
Saber Spark. He's a big guy. It's bit
 

7907
02:33:45,520 --> 02:33:47,670
Saber Spark. He's a big guy. It's bit
it's a bit intimidating.

7908
02:33:47,670 --> 02:33:47,680
it's a bit intimidating.
 

7909
02:33:47,680 --> 02:33:50,389
it's a bit intimidating.
Um, how like what was the earliest that

7910
02:33:50,389 --> 02:33:50,399
Um, how like what was the earliest that
 

7911
02:33:50,399 --> 02:33:52,230
Um, how like what was the earliest that
you can think of where you decided to

7912
02:33:52,230 --> 02:33:52,240
you can think of where you decided to
 

7913
02:33:52,240 --> 02:33:54,389
you can think of where you decided to
open up about this to at least somebody

7914
02:33:54,389 --> 02:33:54,399
open up about this to at least somebody
 

7915
02:33:54,399 --> 02:33:58,510
open up about this to at least somebody
anybody at all?

7916
02:33:58,510 --> 02:33:58,520

 

7917
02:33:58,520 --> 02:34:01,349

Um, anybody?

7918
02:34:01,349 --> 02:34:01,359
Um, anybody?
 

7919
02:34:01,359 --> 02:34:03,910
Um, anybody?
Yeah, just like not documented, but even

7920
02:34:03,910 --> 02:34:03,920
Yeah, just like not documented, but even
 

7921
02:34:03,920 --> 02:34:05,270
Yeah, just like not documented, but even
like just speaking to somebody, just

7922
02:34:05,270 --> 02:34:05,280
like just speaking to somebody, just
 

7923
02:34:05,280 --> 02:34:06,710
like just speaking to somebody, just
like having a one-on-one conversation,

7924
02:34:06,710 --> 02:34:06,720
like having a one-on-one conversation,
 

7925
02:34:06,720 --> 02:34:09,270
like having a one-on-one conversation,
not even online, just

7926
02:34:09,270 --> 02:34:09,280
not even online, just
 

7927
02:34:09,280 --> 02:34:10,630
not even online, just
Okay. Just want to make sure I

7928
02:34:10,630 --> 02:34:10,640
Okay. Just want to make sure I
 

7929
02:34:10,640 --> 02:34:13,429
Okay. Just want to make sure I
understand. Um, well, immediately

7930
02:34:13,429 --> 02:34:13,439
understand. Um, well, immediately
 

7931
02:34:13,439 --> 02:34:15,670
understand. Um, well, immediately
immediately after the first incident

7932
02:34:15,670 --> 02:34:15,680
immediately after the first incident
 

7933
02:34:15,680 --> 02:34:18,309
immediately after the first incident
happened, I called my best friend. Mhm.

7934
02:34:18,309 --> 02:34:18,319
happened, I called my best friend. Mhm.
 

7935
02:34:18,319 --> 02:34:20,790
happened, I called my best friend. Mhm.
Um, immediately. I remember I left the

7936
02:34:20,790 --> 02:34:20,800
Um, immediately. I remember I left the
 

7937
02:34:20,800 --> 02:34:23,429
Um, immediately. I remember I left the
room. I was like kind of shaking and

7938
02:34:23,429 --> 02:34:23,439
room. I was like kind of shaking and
 

7939
02:34:23,439 --> 02:34:25,510
room. I was like kind of shaking and
panicked and I I called my best friend

7940
02:34:25,510 --> 02:34:25,520
panicked and I I called my best friend
 

7941
02:34:25,520 --> 02:34:27,750
panicked and I I called my best friend
and told him immediately what happened

7942
02:34:27,750 --> 02:34:27,760
and told him immediately what happened
 

7943
02:34:27,760 --> 02:34:30,469
and told him immediately what happened
because I didn't know what else to do.

7944
02:34:30,469 --> 02:34:30,479
because I didn't know what else to do.
 

7945
02:34:30,479 --> 02:34:33,270
because I didn't know what else to do.
So, I mean, I will say I I was pretty

7946
02:34:33,270 --> 02:34:33,280
So, I mean, I will say I I was pretty
 

7947
02:34:33,280 --> 02:34:36,870
So, I mean, I will say I I was pretty
upfront about it right after the fact.

7948
02:34:36,870 --> 02:34:36,880
upfront about it right after the fact.
 

7949
02:34:36,880 --> 02:34:39,670
upfront about it right after the fact.
Um, you know, but it was primarily with

7950
02:34:39,670 --> 02:34:39,680
Um, you know, but it was primarily with
 

7951
02:34:39,680 --> 02:34:41,590
Um, you know, but it was primarily with
my best friend. It wasn't really with

7952
02:34:41,590 --> 02:34:41,600
my best friend. It wasn't really with
 

7953
02:34:41,600 --> 02:34:45,590
my best friend. It wasn't really with
anybody else. Um eventually after a

7954
02:34:45,590 --> 02:34:45,600
anybody else. Um eventually after a
 

7955
02:34:45,600 --> 02:34:48,070
anybody else. Um eventually after a
while and I I did have like we talked

7956
02:34:48,070 --> 02:34:48,080
while and I I did have like we talked
 

7957
02:34:48,080 --> 02:34:50,950
while and I I did have like we talked
about uh Soul Rock. Um I opened up to

7958
02:34:50,950 --> 02:34:50,960
about uh Soul Rock. Um I opened up to
 

7959
02:34:50,960 --> 02:34:54,630
about uh Soul Rock. Um I opened up to
him about it. Um and then eventually I

7960
02:34:54,630 --> 02:34:54,640
him about it. Um and then eventually I
 

7961
02:34:54,640 --> 02:34:56,630
him about it. Um and then eventually I
you know when I was dating Cam I I did

7962
02:34:56,630 --> 02:34:56,640
you know when I was dating Cam I I did
 

7963
02:34:56,640 --> 02:34:59,429
you know when I was dating Cam I I did
open up to him about it but it's and I

7964
02:34:59,429 --> 02:34:59,439
open up to him about it but it's and I
 

7965
02:34:59,439 --> 02:35:01,349
open up to him about it but it's and I
would you know throughout the years I

7966
02:35:01,349 --> 02:35:01,359
would you know throughout the years I
 

7967
02:35:01,359 --> 02:35:03,990
would you know throughout the years I
would tell you know a friend here like

7968
02:35:03,990 --> 02:35:04,000
would tell you know a friend here like
 

7969
02:35:04,000 --> 02:35:06,309
would tell you know a friend here like
friend here and there but it's not

7970
02:35:06,309 --> 02:35:06,319
friend here and there but it's not
 

7971
02:35:06,319 --> 02:35:08,070
friend here and there but it's not
something that obviously I have wanted

7972
02:35:08,070 --> 02:35:08,080
something that obviously I have wanted
 

7973
02:35:08,080 --> 02:35:10,150
something that obviously I have wanted
to tell just about anybody. It's just

7974
02:35:10,150 --> 02:35:10,160
to tell just about anybody. It's just
 

7975
02:35:10,160 --> 02:35:12,710
to tell just about anybody. It's just
somebody who I do wind up becoming

7976
02:35:12,710 --> 02:35:12,720
somebody who I do wind up becoming
 

7977
02:35:12,720 --> 02:35:14,469
somebody who I do wind up becoming
really close with. It is something that

7978
02:35:14,469 --> 02:35:14,479
really close with. It is something that
 

7979
02:35:14,479 --> 02:35:16,790
really close with. It is something that
eventually I I do kind of bring up

7980
02:35:16,790 --> 02:35:16,800
eventually I I do kind of bring up
 

7981
02:35:16,800 --> 02:35:19,429
eventually I I do kind of bring up
because it is kind of a hard thing and I

7982
02:35:19,429 --> 02:35:19,439
because it is kind of a hard thing and I
 

7983
02:35:19,439 --> 02:35:21,990
because it is kind of a hard thing and I
it's something that, you know, every

7984
02:35:21,990 --> 02:35:22,000
it's something that, you know, every
 

7985
02:35:22,000 --> 02:35:24,070
it's something that, you know, every
couple of months I start kind of getting

7986
02:35:24,070 --> 02:35:24,080
couple of months I start kind of getting
 

7987
02:35:24,080 --> 02:35:26,950
couple of months I start kind of getting
upset about it and I I want to vent and

7988
02:35:26,950 --> 02:35:26,960
upset about it and I I want to vent and
 

7989
02:35:26,960 --> 02:35:28,710
upset about it and I I want to vent and
so you know every couple of months I'm

7990
02:35:28,710 --> 02:35:28,720
so you know every couple of months I'm
 

7991
02:35:28,720 --> 02:35:31,429
so you know every couple of months I'm
like Cam can we go over this again? You

7992
02:35:31,429 --> 02:35:31,439
like Cam can we go over this again? You
 

7993
02:35:31,439 --> 02:35:32,950
like Cam can we go over this again? You
know, because it's just it's hard. It's

7994
02:35:32,950 --> 02:35:32,960
know, because it's just it's hard. It's
 

7995
02:35:32,960 --> 02:35:35,110
know, because it's just it's hard. It's
it's it's not easy. And this is

7996
02:35:35,110 --> 02:35:35,120
it's it's not easy. And this is
 

7997
02:35:35,120 --> 02:35:37,750
it's it's not easy. And this is
something that I still have struggled to

7998
02:35:37,750 --> 02:35:37,760
something that I still have struggled to
 

7999
02:35:37,760 --> 02:35:40,630
something that I still have struggled to
kind of move beyond, you know, 12 or so

8000
02:35:40,630 --> 02:35:40,640
kind of move beyond, you know, 12 or so
 

8001
02:35:40,640 --> 02:35:43,590
kind of move beyond, you know, 12 or so
many years later. And what happened? I

8002
02:35:43,590 --> 02:35:43,600
many years later. And what happened? I
 

8003
02:35:43,600 --> 02:35:45,750
many years later. And what happened? I
don't know how to get over it, you know.

8004
02:35:45,750 --> 02:35:45,760
don't know how to get over it, you know.
 

8005
02:35:45,760 --> 02:35:47,750
don't know how to get over it, you know.
You know. Okay. It cut out for a second.

8006
02:35:47,750 --> 02:35:47,760
You know. Okay. It cut out for a second.
 

8007
02:35:47,760 --> 02:35:49,110
You know. Okay. It cut out for a second.
I thought that I like dropped off the

8008
02:35:49,110 --> 02:35:49,120
I thought that I like dropped off the
 

8009
02:35:49,120 --> 02:35:50,309
I thought that I like dropped off the
face of the earth for a second. I got

8010
02:35:50,309 --> 02:35:50,319
face of the earth for a second. I got
 

8011
02:35:50,319 --> 02:35:53,510
face of the earth for a second. I got
scared. No, you're you're still here.

8012
02:35:53,510 --> 02:35:53,520
scared. No, you're you're still here.
 

8013
02:35:53,520 --> 02:35:55,510
scared. No, you're you're still here.
Okay, good.

8014
02:35:55,510 --> 02:35:55,520
Okay, good.
 

8015
02:35:55,520 --> 02:35:56,870
Okay, good.
You know what? Phineas is recording,

8016
02:35:56,870 --> 02:35:56,880
You know what? Phineas is recording,
 

8017
02:35:56,880 --> 02:35:58,309
You know what? Phineas is recording,
too. I'm sure he caught all of that.

8018
02:35:58,309 --> 02:35:58,319
too. I'm sure he caught all of that.
 

8019
02:35:58,319 --> 02:36:00,230
too. I'm sure he caught all of that.
It's fine.

8020
02:36:00,230 --> 02:36:00,240
It's fine.
 

8021
02:36:00,240 --> 02:36:03,270
It's fine.
Enter. Are you also recording? Uh yes.

8022
02:36:03,270 --> 02:36:03,280
Enter. Are you also recording? Uh yes.
 

8023
02:36:03,280 --> 02:36:05,910
Enter. Are you also recording? Uh yes.
Uh but don't rely too hard on mine.

8024
02:36:05,910 --> 02:36:05,920
Uh but don't rely too hard on mine.
 

8025
02:36:05,920 --> 02:36:10,389
Uh but don't rely too hard on mine.
Okay. Uh yeah. No, mine it's gonna have

8026
02:36:10,389 --> 02:36:10,399
Okay. Uh yeah. No, mine it's gonna have
 

8027
02:36:10,399 --> 02:36:13,670
Okay. Uh yeah. No, mine it's gonna have
a little uh little noises of me in my

8028
02:36:13,670 --> 02:36:13,680
a little uh little noises of me in my
 

8029
02:36:13,680 --> 02:36:17,510
a little uh little noises of me in my
room also. So Okay, perfect. I just got

8030
02:36:17,510 --> 02:36:17,520
room also. So Okay, perfect. I just got
 

8031
02:36:17,520 --> 02:36:19,270
room also. So Okay, perfect. I just got
worried cuz you suddenly cut went dead

8032
02:36:19,270 --> 02:36:19,280
worried cuz you suddenly cut went dead
 

8033
02:36:19,280 --> 02:36:20,389
worried cuz you suddenly cut went dead
and I'm just like, "Oh god, it's

8034
02:36:20,389 --> 02:36:20,399
and I'm just like, "Oh god, it's
 

8035
02:36:20,399 --> 02:36:24,550
and I'm just like, "Oh god, it's
happening again." No, the virus. It's

8036
02:36:24,550 --> 02:36:24,560
happening again." No, the virus. It's
 

8037
02:36:24,560 --> 02:36:25,910
happening again." No, the virus. It's
taking its toll. No, we're good. We're

8038
02:36:25,910 --> 02:36:25,920
taking its toll. No, we're good. We're
 

8039
02:36:25,920 --> 02:36:28,389
taking its toll. No, we're good. We're
good. Good lord.

8040
02:36:28,389 --> 02:36:28,399
good. Good lord.
 

8041
02:36:28,399 --> 02:36:30,950
good. Good lord.
So, you said that you don't like, you

8042
02:36:30,950 --> 02:36:30,960
So, you said that you don't like, you
 

8043
02:36:30,960 --> 02:36:33,110
So, you said that you don't like, you
know, just tell about just about anybody

8044
02:36:33,110 --> 02:36:33,120
know, just tell about just about anybody
 

8045
02:36:33,120 --> 02:36:35,110
know, just tell about just about anybody
about this sort of thing. Uh, you just

8046
02:36:35,110 --> 02:36:35,120
about this sort of thing. Uh, you just
 

8047
02:36:35,120 --> 02:36:37,030
about this sort of thing. Uh, you just
friends when you need a vent. What was

8048
02:36:37,030 --> 02:36:37,040
friends when you need a vent. What was
 

8049
02:36:37,040 --> 02:36:38,550
friends when you need a vent. What was
the decision to finally just like come

8050
02:36:38,550 --> 02:36:38,560
the decision to finally just like come
 

8051
02:36:38,560 --> 02:36:41,590
the decision to finally just like come
out publicly about it? Like just tell

8052
02:36:41,590 --> 02:36:41,600
out publicly about it? Like just tell
 

8053
02:36:41,600 --> 02:36:43,429
out publicly about it? Like just tell
the the mass internet and put it as a

8054
02:36:43,429 --> 02:36:43,439
the the mass internet and put it as a
 

8055
02:36:43,439 --> 02:36:47,030
the the mass internet and put it as a
public information kind of thing,

8056
02:36:47,030 --> 02:36:47,040
public information kind of thing,
 

8057
02:36:47,040 --> 02:36:48,429
public information kind of thing,
man.

8058
02:36:48,429 --> 02:36:48,439
man.
 

8059
02:36:48,439 --> 02:36:51,910
man.
So, honestly, the last like year and a

8060
02:36:51,910 --> 02:36:51,920
So, honestly, the last like year and a
 

8061
02:36:51,920 --> 02:36:54,630
So, honestly, the last like year and a
half, I've been kind of I'll be honest,

8062
02:36:54,630 --> 02:36:54,640
half, I've been kind of I'll be honest,
 

8063
02:36:54,640 --> 02:36:56,150
half, I've been kind of I'll be honest,
like it's a thing that I've talked about

8064
02:36:56,150 --> 02:36:56,160
like it's a thing that I've talked about
 

8065
02:36:56,160 --> 02:36:58,950
like it's a thing that I've talked about
with people, right? Like here and there.

8066
02:36:58,950 --> 02:36:58,960
with people, right? Like here and there.
 

8067
02:36:58,960 --> 02:37:02,870
with people, right? Like here and there.
But I will say that a lot of my trauma

8068
02:37:02,870 --> 02:37:02,880
But I will say that a lot of my trauma
 

8069
02:37:02,880 --> 02:37:06,309
But I will say that a lot of my trauma
in relation to being, you know, sexually

8070
02:37:06,309 --> 02:37:06,319
in relation to being, you know, sexually
 

8071
02:37:06,319 --> 02:37:08,790
in relation to being, you know, sexually
taken advantage of in general, like in a

8072
02:37:08,790 --> 02:37:08,800
taken advantage of in general, like in a
 

8073
02:37:08,800 --> 02:37:10,950
taken advantage of in general, like in a
general sense. This is this has been

8074
02:37:10,950 --> 02:37:10,960
general sense. This is this has been
 

8075
02:37:10,960 --> 02:37:12,630
general sense. This is this has been
something that I've been trying to work

8076
02:37:12,630 --> 02:37:12,640
something that I've been trying to work
 

8077
02:37:12,640 --> 02:37:15,590
something that I've been trying to work
for like work towards healing like

8078
02:37:15,590 --> 02:37:15,600
for like work towards healing like
 

8079
02:37:15,600 --> 02:37:17,270
for like work towards healing like
probably since maybe the beginning of

8080
02:37:17,270 --> 02:37:17,280
probably since maybe the beginning of
 

8081
02:37:17,280 --> 02:37:21,510
probably since maybe the beginning of
2024 like something kind of hit where um

8082
02:37:21,510 --> 02:37:21,520
2024 like something kind of hit where um
 

8083
02:37:21,520 --> 02:37:23,590
2024 like something kind of hit where um
an unrelated situation. And I don't want

8084
02:37:23,590 --> 02:37:23,600
an unrelated situation. And I don't want
 

8085
02:37:23,600 --> 02:37:26,429
an unrelated situation. And I don't want
to obviously go too into like my

8086
02:37:26,429 --> 02:37:26,439
to obviously go too into like my
 

8087
02:37:26,439 --> 02:37:30,790
to obviously go too into like my
other situations, but I I went to like

8088
02:37:30,790 --> 02:37:30,800
other situations, but I I went to like
 

8089
02:37:30,800 --> 02:37:34,150
other situations, but I I went to like
this public space where another incident

8090
02:37:34,150 --> 02:37:34,160
this public space where another incident
 

8091
02:37:34,160 --> 02:37:37,270
this public space where another incident
had happened and I began dissociating

8092
02:37:37,270 --> 02:37:37,280
had happened and I began dissociating
 

8093
02:37:37,280 --> 02:37:39,270
had happened and I began dissociating
really badly and I felt really really

8094
02:37:39,270 --> 02:37:39,280
really badly and I felt really really
 

8095
02:37:39,280 --> 02:37:41,750
really badly and I felt really really
like lightaded and unwell and I

8096
02:37:41,750 --> 02:37:41,760
like lightaded and unwell and I
 

8097
02:37:41,760 --> 02:37:43,910
like lightaded and unwell and I
remember, you know, being really upset

8098
02:37:43,910 --> 02:37:43,920
remember, you know, being really upset
 

8099
02:37:43,920 --> 02:37:45,590
remember, you know, being really upset
because it was like this public space

8100
02:37:45,590 --> 02:37:45,600
because it was like this public space
 

8101
02:37:45,600 --> 02:37:47,590
because it was like this public space
that, you know, I wanted to have a good

8102
02:37:47,590 --> 02:37:47,600
that, you know, I wanted to have a good
 

8103
02:37:47,600 --> 02:37:49,349
that, you know, I wanted to have a good
time at, but it was also a public space

8104
02:37:49,349 --> 02:37:49,359
time at, but it was also a public space
 

8105
02:37:49,359 --> 02:37:53,349
time at, but it was also a public space
where um one of these incidents happened

8106
02:37:53,349 --> 02:37:53,359
where um one of these incidents happened
 

8107
02:37:53,359 --> 02:37:55,429
where um one of these incidents happened
um not with Saber but in a just a

8108
02:37:55,429 --> 02:37:55,439
um not with Saber but in a just a
 

8109
02:37:55,439 --> 02:37:58,630
um not with Saber but in a just a
different unrelated thing. Um, and I

8110
02:37:58,630 --> 02:37:58,640
different unrelated thing. Um, and I
 

8111
02:37:58,640 --> 02:38:03,950
different unrelated thing. Um, and I
realized that I have not taken any kind

8112
02:38:03,950 --> 02:38:03,960
realized that I have not taken any kind
 

8113
02:38:03,960 --> 02:38:07,030
realized that I have not taken any kind
of I I haven't done anything to work

8114
02:38:07,030 --> 02:38:07,040
of I I haven't done anything to work
 

8115
02:38:07,040 --> 02:38:08,950
of I I haven't done anything to work
towards healing from all of these

8116
02:38:08,950 --> 02:38:08,960
towards healing from all of these
 

8117
02:38:08,960 --> 02:38:11,550
towards healing from all of these
situations that have affected me this

8118
02:38:11,550 --> 02:38:11,560
situations that have affected me this
 

8119
02:38:11,560 --> 02:38:14,469
situations that have affected me this
deeply, you know, like I like to I can't

8120
02:38:14,469 --> 02:38:14,479
deeply, you know, like I like to I can't
 

8121
02:38:14,479 --> 02:38:17,990
deeply, you know, like I like to I can't
even like go to like a mall now without,

8122
02:38:17,990 --> 02:38:18,000
even like go to like a mall now without,
 

8123
02:38:18,000 --> 02:38:19,830
even like go to like a mall now without,
you know, getting completely triggered

8124
02:38:19,830 --> 02:38:19,840
you know, getting completely triggered
 

8125
02:38:19,840 --> 02:38:22,150
you know, getting completely triggered
and dissociated because of a a situation

8126
02:38:22,150 --> 02:38:22,160
and dissociated because of a a situation
 

8127
02:38:22,160 --> 02:38:24,790
and dissociated because of a a situation
that happened in that location. And it

8128
02:38:24,790 --> 02:38:24,800
that happened in that location. And it
 

8129
02:38:24,800 --> 02:38:27,110
that happened in that location. And it
made me look back on these other

8130
02:38:27,110 --> 02:38:27,120
made me look back on these other
 

8131
02:38:27,120 --> 02:38:31,349
made me look back on these other
situations with Saber um and others. Uh

8132
02:38:31,349 --> 02:38:31,359
situations with Saber um and others. Uh
 

8133
02:38:31,359 --> 02:38:33,030
situations with Saber um and others. Uh
and I realized that this is something

8134
02:38:33,030 --> 02:38:33,040
and I realized that this is something
 

8135
02:38:33,040 --> 02:38:36,070
and I realized that this is something
that I really need to start working on.

8136
02:38:36,070 --> 02:38:36,080
that I really need to start working on.
 

8137
02:38:36,080 --> 02:38:38,349
that I really need to start working on.
I really need to start being honest with

8138
02:38:38,349 --> 02:38:38,359
I really need to start being honest with
 

8139
02:38:38,359 --> 02:38:40,870
I really need to start being honest with
myself about the fact that I've been

8140
02:38:40,870 --> 02:38:40,880
myself about the fact that I've been
 

8141
02:38:40,880 --> 02:38:43,349
myself about the fact that I've been
just trying to just survive. I'm just

8142
02:38:43,349 --> 02:38:43,359
just trying to just survive. I'm just
 

8143
02:38:43,359 --> 02:38:45,270
just trying to just survive. I'm just
trying to ignore it and I'm just trying

8144
02:38:45,270 --> 02:38:45,280
trying to ignore it and I'm just trying
 

8145
02:38:45,280 --> 02:38:47,910
trying to ignore it and I'm just trying
to get through the day and that's not

8146
02:38:47,910 --> 02:38:47,920
to get through the day and that's not
 

8147
02:38:47,920 --> 02:38:51,910
to get through the day and that's not
helping me. And so, you know, during

8148
02:38:51,910 --> 02:38:51,920
helping me. And so, you know, during
 

8149
02:38:51,920 --> 02:38:54,950
helping me. And so, you know, during
like the last I don't know, couple of I

8150
02:38:54,950 --> 02:38:54,960
like the last I don't know, couple of I
 

8151
02:38:54,960 --> 02:38:56,150
like the last I don't know, couple of I
I'm trying to think of how long it's

8152
02:38:56,150 --> 02:38:56,160
I'm trying to think of how long it's
 

8153
02:38:56,160 --> 02:38:58,550
I'm trying to think of how long it's
been. Maybe maybe the last like four

8154
02:38:58,550 --> 02:38:58,560
been. Maybe maybe the last like four
 

8155
02:38:58,560 --> 02:39:01,110
been. Maybe maybe the last like four
months or so, you know, the conversation

8156
02:39:01,110 --> 02:39:01,120
months or so, you know, the conversation
 

8157
02:39:01,120 --> 02:39:04,230
months or so, you know, the conversation
has come up because of all of the stuff

8158
02:39:04,230 --> 02:39:04,240
has come up because of all of the stuff
 

8159
02:39:04,240 --> 02:39:06,790
has come up because of all of the stuff
in relation to Black Griffin because

8160
02:39:06,790 --> 02:39:06,800
in relation to Black Griffin because
 

8161
02:39:06,800 --> 02:39:09,270
in relation to Black Griffin because
people will bring up that Saber has

8162
02:39:09,270 --> 02:39:09,280
people will bring up that Saber has
 

8163
02:39:09,280 --> 02:39:11,590
people will bring up that Saber has
defended this and has, you know, I've

8164
02:39:11,590 --> 02:39:11,600
defended this and has, you know, I've
 

8165
02:39:11,600 --> 02:39:13,349
defended this and has, you know, I've
seen all these comments that he's making

8166
02:39:13,349 --> 02:39:13,359
seen all these comments that he's making
 

8167
02:39:13,359 --> 02:39:15,190
seen all these comments that he's making
about it. It's all on the level, you

8168
02:39:15,190 --> 02:39:15,200
about it. It's all on the level, you
 

8169
02:39:15,200 --> 02:39:17,550
about it. It's all on the level, you
know. It's all cool, you know, because

8170
02:39:17,550 --> 02:39:17,560
know. It's all cool, you know, because
 

8171
02:39:17,560 --> 02:39:20,630
know. It's all cool, you know, because
Claire doesn't understand that she has

8172
02:39:20,630 --> 02:39:20,640
Claire doesn't understand that she has
 

8173
02:39:20,640 --> 02:39:22,950
Claire doesn't understand that she has
been groomed. It's fine. You know, it's

8174
02:39:22,950 --> 02:39:22,960
been groomed. It's fine. You know, it's
 

8175
02:39:22,960 --> 02:39:24,710
been groomed. It's fine. You know, it's
all on the level. We're all good. And

8176
02:39:24,710 --> 02:39:24,720
all on the level. We're all good. And
 

8177
02:39:24,720 --> 02:39:27,590
all on the level. We're all good. And
I'll be honest, that triggered me and

8178
02:39:27,590 --> 02:39:27,600
I'll be honest, that triggered me and
 

8179
02:39:27,600 --> 02:39:29,830
I'll be honest, that triggered me and
made me realize, you know, I wonder if

8180
02:39:29,830 --> 02:39:29,840
made me realize, you know, I wonder if
 

8181
02:39:29,840 --> 02:39:32,230
made me realize, you know, I wonder if
that's just how my situation has been

8182
02:39:32,230 --> 02:39:32,240
that's just how my situation has been
 

8183
02:39:32,240 --> 02:39:34,790
that's just how my situation has been
interpreted because I didn't speak out.

8184
02:39:34,790 --> 02:39:34,800
interpreted because I didn't speak out.
 

8185
02:39:34,800 --> 02:39:36,630
interpreted because I didn't speak out.
Because I didn't sit there and say, "No,

8186
02:39:36,630 --> 02:39:36,640
Because I didn't sit there and say, "No,
 

8187
02:39:36,640 --> 02:39:39,429
Because I didn't sit there and say, "No,
get off of me." Because I didn't, you

8188
02:39:39,429 --> 02:39:39,439
get off of me." Because I didn't, you
 

8189
02:39:39,439 --> 02:39:41,750
get off of me." Because I didn't, you
know, have something to say about it. is

8190
02:39:41,750 --> 02:39:41,760
know, have something to say about it. is
 

8191
02:39:41,760 --> 02:39:43,990
know, have something to say about it. is
that just how I'm being interpreted? And

8192
02:39:43,990 --> 02:39:44,000
that just how I'm being interpreted? And
 

8193
02:39:44,000 --> 02:39:46,469
that just how I'm being interpreted? And
that triggered me and upset me a lot.

8194
02:39:46,469 --> 02:39:46,479
that triggered me and upset me a lot.
 

8195
02:39:46,479 --> 02:39:48,950
that triggered me and upset me a lot.
And so, you know, I was talking with my

8196
02:39:48,950 --> 02:39:48,960
And so, you know, I was talking with my
 

8197
02:39:48,960 --> 02:39:51,349
And so, you know, I was talking with my
friend Amy about it because of all of

8198
02:39:51,349 --> 02:39:51,359
friend Amy about it because of all of
 

8199
02:39:51,359 --> 02:39:54,550
friend Amy about it because of all of
the, you know, conversation with Saber

8200
02:39:54,550 --> 02:39:54,560
the, you know, conversation with Saber
 

8201
02:39:54,560 --> 02:39:57,830
the, you know, conversation with Saber
being brought up recently and I just I I

8202
02:39:57,830 --> 02:39:57,840
being brought up recently and I just I I
 

8203
02:39:57,840 --> 02:39:59,670
being brought up recently and I just I I
just couldn't deal with it and I just

8204
02:39:59,670 --> 02:39:59,680
just couldn't deal with it and I just
 

8205
02:39:59,680 --> 02:40:02,469
just couldn't deal with it and I just
started kind of spilling on how I felt

8206
02:40:02,469 --> 02:40:02,479
started kind of spilling on how I felt
 

8207
02:40:02,479 --> 02:40:05,429
started kind of spilling on how I felt
about it. And it was Amy who then said,

8208
02:40:05,429 --> 02:40:05,439
about it. And it was Amy who then said,
 

8209
02:40:05,439 --> 02:40:07,349
about it. And it was Amy who then said,
you know, have you ever thought about

8210
02:40:07,349 --> 02:40:07,359
you know, have you ever thought about
 

8211
02:40:07,359 --> 02:40:11,190
you know, have you ever thought about
speaking up? and I told her no because I

8212
02:40:11,190 --> 02:40:11,200
speaking up? and I told her no because I
 

8213
02:40:11,200 --> 02:40:12,870
speaking up? and I told her no because I
I have a really hard time with doing

8214
02:40:12,870 --> 02:40:12,880
I have a really hard time with doing
 

8215
02:40:12,880 --> 02:40:14,590
I have a really hard time with doing
that.

8216
02:40:14,590 --> 02:40:14,600
that.
 

8217
02:40:14,600 --> 02:40:17,030
that.
Um I don't know. I don't want to get too

8218
02:40:17,030 --> 02:40:17,040
Um I don't know. I don't want to get too
 

8219
02:40:17,040 --> 02:40:19,190
Um I don't know. I don't want to get too
personal. It's just I have a hard time

8220
02:40:19,190 --> 02:40:19,200
personal. It's just I have a hard time
 

8221
02:40:19,200 --> 02:40:21,590
personal. It's just I have a hard time
with like speaking up about those

8222
02:40:21,590 --> 02:40:21,600
with like speaking up about those
 

8223
02:40:21,600 --> 02:40:24,790
with like speaking up about those
situations. I I lock up. I I don't know

8224
02:40:24,790 --> 02:40:24,800
situations. I I lock up. I I don't know
 

8225
02:40:24,800 --> 02:40:27,270
situations. I I lock up. I I don't know
how to deal with that. And so it was not

8226
02:40:27,270 --> 02:40:27,280
how to deal with that. And so it was not
 

8227
02:40:27,280 --> 02:40:29,190
how to deal with that. And so it was not
something ever really on my mind for a

8228
02:40:29,190 --> 02:40:29,200
something ever really on my mind for a
 

8229
02:40:29,200 --> 02:40:32,150
something ever really on my mind for a
long time until this was recommended and

8230
02:40:32,150 --> 02:40:32,160
long time until this was recommended and
 

8231
02:40:32,160 --> 02:40:35,990
long time until this was recommended and
the idea had been brought up. And um you

8232
02:40:35,990 --> 02:40:36,000
the idea had been brought up. And um you
 

8233
02:40:36,000 --> 02:40:38,710
the idea had been brought up. And um you
know Amy said you know I could talk to

8234
02:40:38,710 --> 02:40:38,720
know Amy said you know I could talk to
 

8235
02:40:38,720 --> 02:40:40,790
know Amy said you know I could talk to
you know Brony Fandal who's handled

8236
02:40:40,790 --> 02:40:40,800
you know Brony Fandal who's handled
 

8237
02:40:40,800 --> 02:40:43,030
you know Brony Fandal who's handled
these other situations and you know

8238
02:40:43,030 --> 02:40:43,040
these other situations and you know
 

8239
02:40:43,040 --> 02:40:46,389
these other situations and you know
maybe we can help you and maybe this can

8240
02:40:46,389 --> 02:40:46,399
maybe we can help you and maybe this can
 

8241
02:40:46,399 --> 02:40:48,309
maybe we can help you and maybe this can
help you work towards healing and I

8242
02:40:48,309 --> 02:40:48,319
help you work towards healing and I
 

8243
02:40:48,319 --> 02:40:50,150
help you work towards healing and I
thought okay you know maybe maybe we

8244
02:40:50,150 --> 02:40:50,160
thought okay you know maybe maybe we
 

8245
02:40:50,160 --> 02:40:51,590
thought okay you know maybe maybe we
could at least start with a conversation

8246
02:40:51,590 --> 02:40:51,600
could at least start with a conversation
 

8247
02:40:51,600 --> 02:40:54,469
could at least start with a conversation
and you know it just that's how it all

8248
02:40:54,469 --> 02:40:54,479
and you know it just that's how it all
 

8249
02:40:54,479 --> 02:40:56,630
and you know it just that's how it all
kind of started and eventually it was

8250
02:40:56,630 --> 02:40:56,640
kind of started and eventually it was
 

8251
02:40:56,640 --> 02:40:59,670
kind of started and eventually it was
okay now reach out to KP because she's a

8252
02:40:59,670 --> 02:40:59,680
okay now reach out to KP because she's a
 

8253
02:40:59,680 --> 02:41:02,070
okay now reach out to KP because she's a
victim and maybe she she's gonna she's

8254
02:41:02,070 --> 02:41:02,080
victim and maybe she she's gonna she's
 

8255
02:41:02,080 --> 02:41:03,670
victim and maybe she she's gonna she's
already working on something related to

8256
02:41:03,670 --> 02:41:03,680
already working on something related to
 

8257
02:41:03,680 --> 02:41:05,990
already working on something related to
save her. So maybe she'd be the right

8258
02:41:05,990 --> 02:41:06,000
save her. So maybe she'd be the right
 

8259
02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:08,309
save her. So maybe she'd be the right
person. And me just kind of putting my

8260
02:41:08,309 --> 02:41:08,319
person. And me just kind of putting my
 

8261
02:41:08,319 --> 02:41:11,270
person. And me just kind of putting my
trust in the people who I'm talking to

8262
02:41:11,270 --> 02:41:11,280
trust in the people who I'm talking to
 

8263
02:41:11,280 --> 02:41:14,870
trust in the people who I'm talking to
about this very vulnerable situation. I

8264
02:41:14,870 --> 02:41:14,880
about this very vulnerable situation. I
 

8265
02:41:14,880 --> 02:41:17,190
about this very vulnerable situation. I
just kind of was like, "Okay, I'll I'll

8266
02:41:17,190 --> 02:41:17,200
just kind of was like, "Okay, I'll I'll
 

8267
02:41:17,200 --> 02:41:18,630
just kind of was like, "Okay, I'll I'll
do it." You know, I'm putting my trust

8268
02:41:18,630 --> 02:41:18,640
do it." You know, I'm putting my trust
 

8269
02:41:18,640 --> 02:41:21,190
do it." You know, I'm putting my trust
in what I'm being kind of recommended.

8270
02:41:21,190 --> 02:41:21,200
in what I'm being kind of recommended.
 

8271
02:41:21,200 --> 02:41:23,510
in what I'm being kind of recommended.
And that's kind of how all of this sort

8272
02:41:23,510 --> 02:41:23,520
And that's kind of how all of this sort
 

8273
02:41:23,520 --> 02:41:25,830
And that's kind of how all of this sort
of happened. Yeah. Was there any

8274
02:41:25,830 --> 02:41:25,840
of happened. Yeah. Was there any
 

8275
02:41:25,840 --> 02:41:28,309
of happened. Yeah. Was there any
particular reason why KB KP

8276
02:41:28,309 --> 02:41:28,319
particular reason why KB KP
 

8277
02:41:28,319 --> 02:41:30,150
particular reason why KB KP
specifically? Cuz you said that like the

8278
02:41:30,150 --> 02:41:30,160
specifically? Cuz you said that like the
 

8279
02:41:30,160 --> 02:41:31,590
specifically? Cuz you said that like the
people recommending her said that she

8280
02:41:31,590 --> 02:41:31,600
people recommending her said that she
 

8281
02:41:31,600 --> 02:41:33,590
people recommending her said that she
was already a victim. Is that in regards

8282
02:41:33,590 --> 02:41:33,600
was already a victim. Is that in regards
 

8283
02:41:33,600 --> 02:41:36,790
was already a victim. Is that in regards
to like the Chris stuff or just like cuz

8284
02:41:36,790 --> 02:41:36,800
to like the Chris stuff or just like cuz
 

8285
02:41:36,800 --> 02:41:39,349
to like the Chris stuff or just like cuz
they used to be friends and Saber Spark,

8286
02:41:39,349 --> 02:41:39,359
they used to be friends and Saber Spark,
 

8287
02:41:39,359 --> 02:41:40,870
they used to be friends and Saber Spark,
you know, blew her off or whatever the

8288
02:41:40,870 --> 02:41:40,880
you know, blew her off or whatever the
 

8289
02:41:40,880 --> 02:41:42,469
you know, blew her off or whatever the
hell.

8290
02:41:42,469 --> 02:41:42,479
hell.
 

8291
02:41:42,479 --> 02:41:44,150
hell.
Mhm. That's I think what they were

8292
02:41:44,150 --> 02:41:44,160
Mhm. That's I think what they were
 

8293
02:41:44,160 --> 02:41:45,590
Mhm. That's I think what they were
referring to. They were like, "Yeah,

8294
02:41:45,590 --> 02:41:45,600
referring to. They were like, "Yeah,
 

8295
02:41:45,600 --> 02:41:48,630
referring to. They were like, "Yeah,
she's a victim of Saber because of these

8296
02:41:48,630 --> 02:41:48,640
she's a victim of Saber because of these
 

8297
02:41:48,640 --> 02:41:51,270
she's a victim of Saber because of these
this situation with Chris uh with the

8298
02:41:51,270 --> 02:41:51,280
this situation with Chris uh with the
 

8299
02:41:51,280 --> 02:41:54,150
this situation with Chris uh with the
sexual harassment and Saber not really

8300
02:41:54,150 --> 02:41:54,160
sexual harassment and Saber not really
 

8301
02:41:54,160 --> 02:41:56,790
sexual harassment and Saber not really
like doing anything about it." Um, but I

8302
02:41:56,790 --> 02:41:56,800
like doing anything about it." Um, but I
 

8303
02:41:56,800 --> 02:41:59,030
like doing anything about it." Um, but I
didn't have that context until I then

8304
02:41:59,030 --> 02:41:59,040
didn't have that context until I then
 

8305
02:41:59,040 --> 02:42:01,990
didn't have that context until I then
talked to KP. So I what every time every

8306
02:42:01,990 --> 02:42:02,000
talked to KP. So I what every time every
 

8307
02:42:02,000 --> 02:42:03,270
talked to KP. So I what every time every
everyone's saying she's a victim too,

8308
02:42:03,270 --> 02:42:03,280
everyone's saying she's a victim too,
 

8309
02:42:03,280 --> 02:42:05,910
everyone's saying she's a victim too,
I'm like, "Oh, okay." Like what what

8310
02:42:05,910 --> 02:42:05,920
I'm like, "Oh, okay." Like what what
 

8311
02:42:05,920 --> 02:42:08,230
I'm like, "Oh, okay." Like what what
happened here? You know? So then I

8312
02:42:08,230 --> 02:42:08,240
happened here? You know? So then I
 

8313
02:42:08,240 --> 02:42:10,469
happened here? You know? So then I
reached out to KP and then we got into a

8314
02:42:10,469 --> 02:42:10,479
reached out to KP and then we got into a
 

8315
02:42:10,479 --> 02:42:13,190
reached out to KP and then we got into a
call and she asked me what happened. I

8316
02:42:13,190 --> 02:42:13,200
call and she asked me what happened. I
 

8317
02:42:13,200 --> 02:42:16,389
call and she asked me what happened. I
told my story of everything and then she

8318
02:42:16,389 --> 02:42:16,399
told my story of everything and then she
 

8319
02:42:16,399 --> 02:42:19,349
told my story of everything and then she
um kind of delved into all of her stuff

8320
02:42:19,349 --> 02:42:19,359
um kind of delved into all of her stuff
 

8321
02:42:19,359 --> 02:42:21,910
um kind of delved into all of her stuff
going on with Chris.

8322
02:42:21,910 --> 02:42:21,920
going on with Chris.
 

8323
02:42:21,920 --> 02:42:24,870
going on with Chris.
Okay, I got you. So, just so that the

8324
02:42:24,870 --> 02:42:24,880
Okay, I got you. So, just so that the
 

8325
02:42:24,880 --> 02:42:27,190
Okay, I got you. So, just so that the
world is aware because I think a lot of

8326
02:42:27,190 --> 02:42:27,200
world is aware because I think a lot of
 

8327
02:42:27,200 --> 02:42:29,990
world is aware because I think a lot of
people at the beginning um because of

8328
02:42:29,990 --> 02:42:30,000
people at the beginning um because of
 

8329
02:42:30,000 --> 02:42:31,590
people at the beginning um because of
KP's video, which we don't even need to

8330
02:42:31,590 --> 02:42:31,600
KP's video, which we don't even need to
 

8331
02:42:31,600 --> 02:42:33,750
KP's video, which we don't even need to
get into cuz I I'm sure you don't want

8332
02:42:33,750 --> 02:42:33,760
get into cuz I I'm sure you don't want
 

8333
02:42:33,760 --> 02:42:35,670
get into cuz I I'm sure you don't want
to speak cuz you said you don't want to

8334
02:42:35,670 --> 02:42:35,680
to speak cuz you said you don't want to
 

8335
02:42:35,680 --> 02:42:37,429
to speak cuz you said you don't want to
speak ill will of KP or anything or you

8336
02:42:37,429 --> 02:42:37,439
speak ill will of KP or anything or you
 

8337
02:42:37,439 --> 02:42:38,630
speak ill will of KP or anything or you
don't have anything against them

8338
02:42:38,630 --> 02:42:38,640
don't have anything against them
 

8339
02:42:38,640 --> 02:42:40,710
don't have anything against them
personally or whatever. Um we don't need

8340
02:42:40,710 --> 02:42:40,720
personally or whatever. Um we don't need
 

8341
02:42:40,720 --> 02:42:42,630
personally or whatever. Um we don't need
to talk about the state of that video. I

8342
02:42:42,630 --> 02:42:42,640
to talk about the state of that video. I
 

8343
02:42:42,640 --> 02:42:44,070
to talk about the state of that video. I
think everybody's very aware of what the

8344
02:42:44,070 --> 02:42:44,080
think everybody's very aware of what the
 

8345
02:42:44,080 --> 02:42:46,389
think everybody's very aware of what the
state of that video was.

8346
02:42:46,389 --> 02:42:46,399
state of that video was.
 

8347
02:42:46,399 --> 02:42:48,070
state of that video was.
That would get us sidetracked right now.

8348
02:42:48,070 --> 02:42:48,080
That would get us sidetracked right now.
 

8349
02:42:48,080 --> 02:42:49,070
That would get us sidetracked right now.
Yeah.

8350
02:42:49,070 --> 02:42:49,080
Yeah.
 

8351
02:42:49,080 --> 02:42:51,429
Yeah.
So, a lot of people because of the way

8352
02:42:51,429 --> 02:42:51,439
So, a lot of people because of the way
 

8353
02:42:51,439 --> 02:42:54,389
So, a lot of people because of the way
that whole video was handled assume that

8354
02:42:54,389 --> 02:42:54,399
that whole video was handled assume that
 

8355
02:42:54,399 --> 02:42:56,230
that whole video was handled assume that
you were something you are something

8356
02:42:56,230 --> 02:42:56,240
you were something you are something
 

8357
02:42:56,240 --> 02:42:58,230
you were something you are something
somewhat of a manifestation of Brody

8358
02:42:58,230 --> 02:42:58,240
somewhat of a manifestation of Brody
 

8359
02:42:58,240 --> 02:43:01,270
somewhat of a manifestation of Brody
Fando and KP. Um, that you just simply

8360
02:43:01,270 --> 02:43:01,280
Fando and KP. Um, that you just simply
 

8361
02:43:01,280 --> 02:43:04,790
Fando and KP. Um, that you just simply
don't exist. Um, I'm talking to you

8362
02:43:04,790 --> 02:43:04,800
don't exist. Um, I'm talking to you
 

8363
02:43:04,800 --> 02:43:07,990
don't exist. Um, I'm talking to you
right now. So, clearly that's not true.

8364
02:43:07,990 --> 02:43:08,000
right now. So, clearly that's not true.
 

8365
02:43:08,000 --> 02:43:10,630
right now. So, clearly that's not true.
You're very real. You have a voice. Here

8366
02:43:10,630 --> 02:43:10,640
You're very real. You have a voice. Here
 

8367
02:43:10,640 --> 02:43:14,710
You're very real. You have a voice. Here
you are. There you are. You exist. So,

8368
02:43:14,710 --> 02:43:14,720
you are. There you are. You exist. So,
 

8369
02:43:14,720 --> 02:43:17,030
you are. There you are. You exist. So,
let's just address that. You You are

8370
02:43:17,030 --> 02:43:17,040
let's just address that. You You are
 

8371
02:43:17,040 --> 02:43:18,469
let's just address that. You You are
real.

8372
02:43:18,469 --> 02:43:18,479
real.
 

8373
02:43:18,479 --> 02:43:20,950
real.
I am real. I'm a real person. I've got a

8374
02:43:20,950 --> 02:43:20,960
I am real. I'm a real person. I've got a
 

8375
02:43:20,960 --> 02:43:23,830
I am real. I'm a real person. I've got a
channel. I I I Yes, I'm a real person

8376
02:43:23,830 --> 02:43:23,840
channel. I I I Yes, I'm a real person
 

8377
02:43:23,840 --> 02:43:25,910
channel. I I I Yes, I'm a real person
with this real experience that happened.

8378
02:43:25,910 --> 02:43:25,920
with this real experience that happened.
 

8379
02:43:25,920 --> 02:43:28,389
with this real experience that happened.
Um I was kind of shocked to see people

8380
02:43:28,389 --> 02:43:28,399
Um I was kind of shocked to see people
 

8381
02:43:28,399 --> 02:43:30,710
Um I was kind of shocked to see people
assume that, but I don't entirely blame

8382
02:43:30,710 --> 02:43:30,720
assume that, but I don't entirely blame
 

8383
02:43:30,720 --> 02:43:33,429
assume that, but I don't entirely blame
them because, you know, obviously even

8384
02:43:33,429 --> 02:43:33,439
them because, you know, obviously even
 

8385
02:43:33,439 --> 02:43:35,590
them because, you know, obviously even
when it came to putting my trust in

8386
02:43:35,590 --> 02:43:35,600
when it came to putting my trust in
 

8387
02:43:35,600 --> 02:43:37,670
when it came to putting my trust in
everybody, I still was like, I would

8388
02:43:37,670 --> 02:43:37,680
everybody, I still was like, I would
 

8389
02:43:37,680 --> 02:43:39,030
everybody, I still was like, I would
rather just kind of be anonymous,

8390
02:43:39,030 --> 02:43:39,040
rather just kind of be anonymous,
 

8391
02:43:39,040 --> 02:43:41,190
rather just kind of be anonymous,
please. you know, I really like I it's

8392
02:43:41,190 --> 02:43:41,200
please. you know, I really like I it's
 

8393
02:43:41,200 --> 02:43:42,990
please. you know, I really like I it's
like I'm kind of coming forward, but I'm

8394
02:43:42,990 --> 02:43:43,000
like I'm kind of coming forward, but I'm
 

8395
02:43:43,000 --> 02:43:46,309
like I'm kind of coming forward, but I'm
still I don't want to get brutally

8396
02:43:46,309 --> 02:43:46,319
still I don't want to get brutally
 

8397
02:43:46,319 --> 02:43:49,750
still I don't want to get brutally
harassed, you know, by fans of him, you

8398
02:43:49,750 --> 02:43:49,760
harassed, you know, by fans of him, you
 

8399
02:43:49,760 --> 02:43:51,670
harassed, you know, by fans of him, you
know, and

8400
02:43:51,670 --> 02:43:51,680
know, and
 

8401
02:43:51,680 --> 02:43:53,429
know, and
so I I kind of understand why people

8402
02:43:53,429 --> 02:43:53,439
so I I kind of understand why people
 

8403
02:43:53,439 --> 02:43:56,070
so I I kind of understand why people
came to that conclusion kind of, but no,

8404
02:43:56,070 --> 02:43:56,080
came to that conclusion kind of, but no,
 

8405
02:43:56,080 --> 02:43:58,870
came to that conclusion kind of, but no,
I'm very much real. Well, I don't think

8406
02:43:58,870 --> 02:43:58,880
I'm very much real. Well, I don't think
 

8407
02:43:58,880 --> 02:44:00,790
I'm very much real. Well, I don't think
I mean there's not really a ton of like

8408
02:44:00,790 --> 02:44:00,800
I mean there's not really a ton of like
 

8409
02:44:00,800 --> 02:44:02,550
I mean there's not really a ton of like
examples of him like really using his

8410
02:44:02,550 --> 02:44:02,560
examples of him like really using his
 

8411
02:44:02,560 --> 02:44:04,550
examples of him like really using his
fan base for that purpose, but I I can

8412
02:44:04,550 --> 02:44:04,560
fan base for that purpose, but I I can
 

8413
02:44:04,560 --> 02:44:06,469
fan base for that purpose, but I I can
see still the concern just based on like

8414
02:44:06,469 --> 02:44:06,479
see still the concern just based on like
 

8415
02:44:06,479 --> 02:44:08,790
see still the concern just based on like
a a victim's perspective of like cuz

8416
02:44:08,790 --> 02:44:08,800
a a victim's perspective of like cuz
 

8417
02:44:08,800 --> 02:44:10,309
a a victim's perspective of like cuz
he's a big guy, right? He's got a big

8418
02:44:10,309 --> 02:44:10,319
he's a big guy, right? He's got a big
 

8419
02:44:10,319 --> 02:44:12,150
he's a big guy, right? He's got a big
channel. He's got a lot of followers.

8420
02:44:12,150 --> 02:44:12,160
channel. He's got a lot of followers.
 

8421
02:44:12,160 --> 02:44:13,590
channel. He's got a lot of followers.
So, there's always that like concern of

8422
02:44:13,590 --> 02:44:13,600
So, there's always that like concern of
 

8423
02:44:13,600 --> 02:44:15,429
So, there's always that like concern of
like, well, what he's got a fan base.

8424
02:44:15,429 --> 02:44:15,439
like, well, what he's got a fan base.
 

8425
02:44:15,439 --> 02:44:16,870
like, well, what he's got a fan base.
What how are they going to react? Are

8426
02:44:16,870 --> 02:44:16,880
What how are they going to react? Are
 

8427
02:44:16,880 --> 02:44:18,630
What how are they going to react? Are
they going to be vicious about it? Are

8428
02:44:18,630 --> 02:44:18,640
they going to be vicious about it? Are
 

8429
02:44:18,640 --> 02:44:21,349
they going to be vicious about it? Are
they going to be rude? Like,

8430
02:44:21,349 --> 02:44:21,359
they going to be rude? Like,
 

8431
02:44:21,359 --> 02:44:23,750
they going to be rude? Like,
you know? Well, and let's let's also be

8432
02:44:23,750 --> 02:44:23,760
you know? Well, and let's let's also be
 

8433
02:44:23,760 --> 02:44:26,870
you know? Well, and let's let's also be
completely upfront. you know, I don't

8434
02:44:26,870 --> 02:44:26,880
completely upfront. you know, I don't
 

8435
02:44:26,880 --> 02:44:29,429
completely upfront. you know, I don't
have nearly as much as he does and I

8436
02:44:29,429 --> 02:44:29,439
have nearly as much as he does and I
 

8437
02:44:29,439 --> 02:44:32,150
have nearly as much as he does and I
still have fans who do this even when I

8438
02:44:32,150 --> 02:44:32,160
still have fans who do this even when I
 

8439
02:44:32,160 --> 02:44:33,910
still have fans who do this even when I
don't encourage them to like when I'm

8440
02:44:33,910 --> 02:44:33,920
don't encourage them to like when I'm
 

8441
02:44:33,920 --> 02:44:36,150
don't encourage them to like when I'm
telling them do not do this. Do like I

8442
02:44:36,150 --> 02:44:36,160
telling them do not do this. Do like I
 

8443
02:44:36,160 --> 02:44:37,830
telling them do not do this. Do like I
do not encourage this and they still do

8444
02:44:37,830 --> 02:44:37,840
do not encourage this and they still do
 

8445
02:44:37,840 --> 02:44:40,630
do not encourage this and they still do
it. So even if Saber himself is not

8446
02:44:40,630 --> 02:44:40,640
it. So even if Saber himself is not
 

8447
02:44:40,640 --> 02:44:43,110
it. So even if Saber himself is not
encouraging it, it's still going to

8448
02:44:43,110 --> 02:44:43,120
encouraging it, it's still going to
 

8449
02:44:43,120 --> 02:44:45,750
encouraging it, it's still going to
happen. And we saw this happen actually

8450
02:44:45,750 --> 02:44:45,760
happen. And we saw this happen actually
 

8451
02:44:45,760 --> 02:44:50,469
happen. And we saw this happen actually
when Saber responded and uh Brody Fandal

8452
02:44:50,469 --> 02:44:50,479
when Saber responded and uh Brody Fandal
 

8453
02:44:50,479 --> 02:44:52,230
when Saber responded and uh Brody Fandal
got pushed to the point of attempting

8454
02:44:52,230 --> 02:44:52,240
got pushed to the point of attempting
 

8455
02:44:52,240 --> 02:44:54,710
got pushed to the point of attempting
his life, you know, because people were

8456
02:44:54,710 --> 02:44:54,720
his life, you know, because people were
 

8457
02:44:54,720 --> 02:44:57,990
his life, you know, because people were
harassing him that badly. You know, I've

8458
02:44:57,990 --> 02:44:58,000
harassing him that badly. You know, I've
 

8459
02:44:58,000 --> 02:44:59,590
harassing him that badly. You know, I've
seen these comments and they're very

8460
02:44:59,590 --> 02:44:59,600
seen these comments and they're very
 

8461
02:44:59,600 --> 02:45:03,429
seen these comments and they're very
mean, right? So, let's talk about the

8462
02:45:03,429 --> 02:45:03,439
mean, right? So, let's talk about the
 

8463
02:45:03,439 --> 02:45:06,389
mean, right? So, let's talk about the
response video for a second. Um because

8464
02:45:06,389 --> 02:45:06,399
response video for a second. Um because
 

8465
02:45:06,399 --> 02:45:08,469
response video for a second. Um because
Saber Spark more so kind of says that

8466
02:45:08,469 --> 02:45:08,479
Saber Spark more so kind of says that
 

8467
02:45:08,479 --> 02:45:10,150
Saber Spark more so kind of says that
the whole thing was just a giant hit

8468
02:45:10,150 --> 02:45:10,160
the whole thing was just a giant hit
 

8469
02:45:10,160 --> 02:45:11,349
the whole thing was just a giant hit
piece on him which I think is probably

8470
02:45:11,349 --> 02:45:11,359
piece on him which I think is probably
 

8471
02:45:11,359 --> 02:45:12,710
piece on him which I think is probably
the reason why people think you don't

8472
02:45:12,710 --> 02:45:12,720
the reason why people think you don't
 

8473
02:45:12,720 --> 02:45:16,309
the reason why people think you don't
exist. Um but what was your whole like

8474
02:45:16,309 --> 02:45:16,319
exist. Um but what was your whole like
 

8475
02:45:16,319 --> 02:45:17,670
exist. Um but what was your whole like
thought process just kind of watching

8476
02:45:17,670 --> 02:45:17,680
thought process just kind of watching
 

8477
02:45:17,680 --> 02:45:19,590
thought process just kind of watching
his response video? Like did you think

8478
02:45:19,590 --> 02:45:19,600
his response video? Like did you think
 

8479
02:45:19,600 --> 02:45:23,190
his response video? Like did you think
it was like good or like were you like

8480
02:45:23,190 --> 02:45:23,200
it was like good or like were you like
 

8481
02:45:23,200 --> 02:45:25,349
it was like good or like were you like
oh you know great response bro like I

8482
02:45:25,349 --> 02:45:25,359
oh you know great response bro like I
 

8483
02:45:25,359 --> 02:45:27,269
oh you know great response bro like I
don't know I don't know how a victim

8484
02:45:27,269 --> 02:45:27,279
don't know I don't know how a victim
 

8485
02:45:27,279 --> 02:45:31,110
don't know I don't know how a victim
would respond to a response video then

8486
02:45:31,110 --> 02:45:31,120
would respond to a response video then
 

8487
02:45:31,120 --> 02:45:33,830
would respond to a response video then
right? I mean, in terms of looking at it

8488
02:45:33,830 --> 02:45:33,840
right? I mean, in terms of looking at it
 

8489
02:45:33,840 --> 02:45:35,190
right? I mean, in terms of looking at it
from somebody who would be

8490
02:45:35,190 --> 02:45:35,200
from somebody who would be
 

8491
02:45:35,200 --> 02:45:37,429
from somebody who would be
hypothetically a fan of him, wanting to

8492
02:45:37,429 --> 02:45:37,439
hypothetically a fan of him, wanting to
 

8493
02:45:37,439 --> 02:45:40,710
hypothetically a fan of him, wanting to
get the uh truth of like what what

8494
02:45:40,710 --> 02:45:40,720
get the uh truth of like what what
 

8495
02:45:40,720 --> 02:45:42,070
get the uh truth of like what what
happened, you know, can you speak on

8496
02:45:42,070 --> 02:45:42,080
happened, you know, can you speak on
 

8497
02:45:42,080 --> 02:45:44,790
happened, you know, can you speak on
this? I don't think it was very good

8498
02:45:44,790 --> 02:45:44,800
this? I don't think it was very good
 

8499
02:45:44,800 --> 02:45:47,349
this? I don't think it was very good
because it doesn't even really go into

8500
02:45:47,349 --> 02:45:47,359
because it doesn't even really go into
 

8501
02:45:47,359 --> 02:45:49,550
because it doesn't even really go into
it, you know, and

8502
02:45:49,550 --> 02:45:49,560
it, you know, and
 

8503
02:45:49,560 --> 02:45:52,550
it, you know, and
um I found that to be interesting that

8504
02:45:52,550 --> 02:45:52,560
um I found that to be interesting that
 

8505
02:45:52,560 --> 02:45:56,070
um I found that to be interesting that
he focused so much on this. He like it's

8506
02:45:56,070 --> 02:45:56,080
he focused so much on this. He like it's
 

8507
02:45:56,080 --> 02:45:58,469
he focused so much on this. He like it's
he doesn't say it, but I will say it is

8508
02:45:58,469 --> 02:45:58,479
he doesn't say it, but I will say it is
 

8509
02:45:58,479 --> 02:46:00,550
he doesn't say it, but I will say it is
very heavily implied that this was just

8510
02:46:00,550 --> 02:46:00,560
very heavily implied that this was just
 

8511
02:46:00,560 --> 02:46:03,510
very heavily implied that this was just
a manifestation of KP and Brony Fandal.

8512
02:46:03,510 --> 02:46:03,520
a manifestation of KP and Brony Fandal.
 

8513
02:46:03,520 --> 02:46:07,349
a manifestation of KP and Brony Fandal.
Um I was shocked to see that because I

8514
02:46:07,349 --> 02:46:07,359
Um I was shocked to see that because I
 

8515
02:46:07,359 --> 02:46:10,230
Um I was shocked to see that because I
know he knows who I am. We all know that

8516
02:46:10,230 --> 02:46:10,240
know he knows who I am. We all know that
 

8517
02:46:10,240 --> 02:46:12,150
know he knows who I am. We all know that
because Casey acknowledges that she

8518
02:46:12,150 --> 02:46:12,160
because Casey acknowledges that she
 

8519
02:46:12,160 --> 02:46:14,710
because Casey acknowledges that she
knows who I am who is friends with Saber

8520
02:46:14,710 --> 02:46:14,720
knows who I am who is friends with Saber
 

8521
02:46:14,720 --> 02:46:17,510
knows who I am who is friends with Saber
Spark, right? So I was really shocked by

8522
02:46:17,510 --> 02:46:17,520
Spark, right? So I was really shocked by
 

8523
02:46:17,520 --> 02:46:20,230
Spark, right? So I was really shocked by
that response honestly. Yeah, it

8524
02:46:20,230 --> 02:46:20,240
that response honestly. Yeah, it
 

8525
02:46:20,240 --> 02:46:21,670
that response honestly. Yeah, it
certainly didn't make sense for Casey to

8526
02:46:21,670 --> 02:46:21,680
certainly didn't make sense for Casey to
 

8527
02:46:21,680 --> 02:46:23,269
certainly didn't make sense for Casey to
be like, I know who it is. Look them up.

8528
02:46:23,269 --> 02:46:23,279
be like, I know who it is. Look them up.
 

8529
02:46:23,279 --> 02:46:24,469
be like, I know who it is. Look them up.
They got all these controversies. The

8530
02:46:24,469 --> 02:46:24,479
They got all these controversies. The
 

8531
02:46:24,479 --> 02:46:26,150
They got all these controversies. The
Saber Sparks just being like, "This was

8532
02:46:26,150 --> 02:46:26,160
Saber Sparks just being like, "This was
 

8533
02:46:26,160 --> 02:46:28,870
Saber Sparks just being like, "This was
all just a manifestation of KP and Brony

8534
02:46:28,870 --> 02:46:28,880
all just a manifestation of KP and Brony
 

8535
02:46:28,880 --> 02:46:30,550
all just a manifestation of KP and Brony
Fando. They were the one that put this

8536
02:46:30,550 --> 02:46:30,560
Fando. They were the one that put this
 

8537
02:46:30,560 --> 02:46:32,230
Fando. They were the one that put this
whole thing together and I can prove

8538
02:46:32,230 --> 02:46:32,240
whole thing together and I can prove
 

8539
02:46:32,240 --> 02:46:33,990
whole thing together and I can prove
it." And it's like, "So, you're not

8540
02:46:33,990 --> 02:46:34,000
it." And it's like, "So, you're not
 

8541
02:46:34,000 --> 02:46:35,590
it." And it's like, "So, you're not
going to address I mean, I guess if for

8542
02:46:35,590 --> 02:46:35,600
going to address I mean, I guess if for
 

8543
02:46:35,600 --> 02:46:37,269
going to address I mean, I guess if for
in his perspective, maybe it's trying to

8544
02:46:37,269 --> 02:46:37,279
in his perspective, maybe it's trying to
 

8545
02:46:37,279 --> 02:46:39,429
in his perspective, maybe it's trying to
prove a negative. Like, I'm not sure how

8546
02:46:39,429 --> 02:46:39,439
prove a negative. Like, I'm not sure how
 

8547
02:46:39,439 --> 02:46:41,269
prove a negative. Like, I'm not sure how
I can address what they're talking about

8548
02:46:41,269 --> 02:46:41,279
I can address what they're talking about
 

8549
02:46:41,279 --> 02:46:43,510
I can address what they're talking about
when it's very obvious that like they

8550
02:46:43,510 --> 02:46:43,520
when it's very obvious that like they
 

8551
02:46:43,520 --> 02:46:45,510
when it's very obvious that like they
have a thing against me or whatever."

8552
02:46:45,510 --> 02:46:45,520
have a thing against me or whatever."
 

8553
02:46:45,520 --> 02:46:47,349
have a thing against me or whatever."
Like, I suppose from a legal standpoint,

8554
02:46:47,349 --> 02:46:47,359
Like, I suppose from a legal standpoint,
 

8555
02:46:47,359 --> 02:46:52,389
Like, I suppose from a legal standpoint,
I get it. But like you you're do exist.

8556
02:46:52,389 --> 02:46:52,399
I get it. But like you you're do exist.
 

8557
02:46:52,399 --> 02:46:53,389
I get it. But like you you're do exist.
like you're

8558
02:46:53,389 --> 02:46:53,399
like you're
 

8559
02:46:53,399 --> 02:46:56,070
like you're
here. I just I figure, you know, you

8560
02:46:56,070 --> 02:46:56,080
here. I just I figure, you know, you
 

8561
02:46:56,080 --> 02:46:57,750
here. I just I figure, you know, you
should if at the very least he should

8562
02:46:57,750 --> 02:46:57,760
should if at the very least he should
 

8563
02:46:57,760 --> 02:46:59,510
should if at the very least he should
have just said like the story is BS.

8564
02:46:59,510 --> 02:46:59,520
have just said like the story is BS.
 

8565
02:46:59,520 --> 02:47:00,790
have just said like the story is BS.
Like I would have appreciate that more

8566
02:47:00,790 --> 02:47:00,800
Like I would have appreciate that more
 

8567
02:47:00,800 --> 02:47:02,070
Like I would have appreciate that more
if he just said that [\h__\h] never

8568
02:47:02,070 --> 02:47:02,080
if he just said that [\h__\h] never
 

8569
02:47:02,080 --> 02:47:04,230
if he just said that [\h__\h] never
happened. Lol. Like I I don't understand

8570
02:47:04,230 --> 02:47:04,240
happened. Lol. Like I I don't understand
 

8571
02:47:04,240 --> 02:47:07,030
happened. Lol. Like I I don't understand
why he's just like Yeah. Like why he

8572
02:47:07,030 --> 02:47:07,040
why he's just like Yeah. Like why he
 

8573
02:47:07,040 --> 02:47:09,429
why he's just like Yeah. Like why he
just was just like KP is just trying to

8574
02:47:09,429 --> 02:47:09,439
just was just like KP is just trying to
 

8575
02:47:09,439 --> 02:47:11,030
just was just like KP is just trying to
make a hit piece on me. And I'm like I

8576
02:47:11,030 --> 02:47:11,040
make a hit piece on me. And I'm like I
 

8577
02:47:11,040 --> 02:47:13,110
make a hit piece on me. And I'm like I
mean yeah she does have something

8578
02:47:13,110 --> 02:47:13,120
mean yeah she does have something
 

8579
02:47:13,120 --> 02:47:16,950
mean yeah she does have something
against you. That's true. But like you

8580
02:47:16,950 --> 02:47:16,960
against you. That's true. But like you
 

8581
02:47:16,960 --> 02:47:18,630
against you. That's true. But like you
could at least go through the details of

8582
02:47:18,630 --> 02:47:18,640
could at least go through the details of
 

8583
02:47:18,640 --> 02:47:20,389
could at least go through the details of
this testimony she was able to get for

8584
02:47:20,389 --> 02:47:20,399
this testimony she was able to get for
 

8585
02:47:20,399 --> 02:47:22,230
this testimony she was able to get for
her video and just go through it and be

8586
02:47:22,230 --> 02:47:22,240
her video and just go through it and be
 

8587
02:47:22,240 --> 02:47:24,309
her video and just go through it and be
like this, you know, try to dissect it

8588
02:47:24,309 --> 02:47:24,319
like this, you know, try to dissect it
 

8589
02:47:24,319 --> 02:47:26,790
like this, you know, try to dissect it
in any amount. But like he didn't really

8590
02:47:26,790 --> 02:47:26,800
in any amount. But like he didn't really
 

8591
02:47:26,800 --> 02:47:28,309
in any amount. But like he didn't really
do that. He just said, "Nah, just don't

8592
02:47:28,309 --> 02:47:28,319
do that. He just said, "Nah, just don't
 

8593
02:47:28,319 --> 02:47:30,469
do that. He just said, "Nah, just don't
listen because it's KP and Brony Fando,"

8594
02:47:30,469 --> 02:47:30,479
listen because it's KP and Brony Fando,"
 

8595
02:47:30,479 --> 02:47:31,910
listen because it's KP and Brony Fando,"
which is poisoning the well. That

8596
02:47:31,910 --> 02:47:31,920
which is poisoning the well. That
 

8597
02:47:31,920 --> 02:47:33,510
which is poisoning the well. That
doesn't really address what they're

8598
02:47:33,510 --> 02:47:33,520
doesn't really address what they're
 

8599
02:47:33,520 --> 02:47:35,910
doesn't really address what they're
saying, you know?

8600
02:47:35,910 --> 02:47:35,920
saying, you know?
 

8601
02:47:35,920 --> 02:47:38,630
saying, you know?
Yep. No, I completely agree. Like I

8602
02:47:38,630 --> 02:47:38,640
Yep. No, I completely agree. Like I
 

8603
02:47:38,640 --> 02:47:40,230
Yep. No, I completely agree. Like I
Yeah. Yeah, I mean a lot of people I

8604
02:47:40,230 --> 02:47:40,240
Yeah. Yeah, I mean a lot of people I
 

8605
02:47:40,240 --> 02:47:42,309
Yeah. Yeah, I mean a lot of people I
would expect have expected was for him

8606
02:47:42,309 --> 02:47:42,319
would expect have expected was for him
 

8607
02:47:42,319 --> 02:47:45,429
would expect have expected was for him
to like maybe read it and say no this

8608
02:47:45,429 --> 02:47:45,439
to like maybe read it and say no this
 

8609
02:47:45,439 --> 02:47:47,750
to like maybe read it and say no this
it's just all made up. all this is made

8610
02:47:47,750 --> 02:47:47,760
it's just all made up. all this is made
 

8611
02:47:47,760 --> 02:47:49,590
it's just all made up. all this is made
up or you know maybe just you know what

8612
02:47:49,590 --> 02:47:49,600
up or you know maybe just you know what
 

8613
02:47:49,600 --> 02:47:51,670
up or you know maybe just you know what
I mean just something to just something

8614
02:47:51,670 --> 02:47:51,680
I mean just something to just something
 

8615
02:47:51,680 --> 02:47:53,750
I mean just something to just something
to debunk it but instead I from my

8616
02:47:53,750 --> 02:47:53,760
to debunk it but instead I from my
 

8617
02:47:53,760 --> 02:47:55,830
to debunk it but instead I from my
understanding he just makes a comment

8618
02:47:55,830 --> 02:47:55,840
understanding he just makes a comment
 

8619
02:47:55,840 --> 02:47:57,990
understanding he just makes a comment
that says yeah it is false you know and

8620
02:47:57,990 --> 02:47:58,000
that says yeah it is false you know and
 

8621
02:47:58,000 --> 02:47:59,670
that says yeah it is false you know and
okay

8622
02:47:59,670 --> 02:47:59,680
okay
 

8623
02:47:59,680 --> 02:48:01,990
okay
and then everybody said oh my he he beat

8624
02:48:01,990 --> 02:48:02,000
and then everybody said oh my he he beat
 

8625
02:48:02,000 --> 02:48:05,269
and then everybody said oh my he he beat
the allegations right I mean I guess he

8626
02:48:05,269 --> 02:48:05,279
the allegations right I mean I guess he
 

8627
02:48:05,279 --> 02:48:06,950
the allegations right I mean I guess he
did if because I mean technically what

8628
02:48:06,950 --> 02:48:06,960
did if because I mean technically what
 

8629
02:48:06,960 --> 02:48:08,710
did if because I mean technically what
he's addressing is KP directly because

8630
02:48:08,710 --> 02:48:08,720
he's addressing is KP directly because
 

8631
02:48:08,720 --> 02:48:09,990
he's addressing is KP directly because
they're the one that put the video out

8632
02:48:09,990 --> 02:48:10,000
they're the one that put the video out
 

8633
02:48:10,000 --> 02:48:12,070
they're the one that put the video out
there so I mean from a perspective of I

8634
02:48:12,070 --> 02:48:12,080
there so I mean from a perspective of I
 

8635
02:48:12,080 --> 02:48:14,070
there so I mean from a perspective of I
just have to address what KP is saying

8636
02:48:14,070 --> 02:48:14,080
just have to address what KP is saying
 

8637
02:48:14,080 --> 02:48:17,750
just have to address what KP is saying
sure but you know what he's addressing

8638
02:48:17,750 --> 02:48:17,760
sure but you know what he's addressing
 

8639
02:48:17,760 --> 02:48:20,150
sure but you know what he's addressing
is what KP's problem with them is. It's

8640
02:48:20,150 --> 02:48:20,160
is what KP's problem with them is. It's
 

8641
02:48:20,160 --> 02:48:21,590
is what KP's problem with them is. It's
not what your problem with them is cuz

8642
02:48:21,590 --> 02:48:21,600
not what your problem with them is cuz
 

8643
02:48:21,600 --> 02:48:23,269
not what your problem with them is cuz
I'm pretty not that he's under the

8644
02:48:23,269 --> 02:48:23,279
I'm pretty not that he's under the
 

8645
02:48:23,279 --> 02:48:24,469
I'm pretty not that he's under the
impression that maybe you don't exist,

8646
02:48:24,469 --> 02:48:24,479
impression that maybe you don't exist,
 

8647
02:48:24,479 --> 02:48:26,630
impression that maybe you don't exist,
but maybe it's like for legal reasons.

8648
02:48:26,630 --> 02:48:26,640
but maybe it's like for legal reasons.
 

8649
02:48:26,640 --> 02:48:28,550
but maybe it's like for legal reasons.
He probably can't if he's trying to do

8650
02:48:28,550 --> 02:48:28,560
He probably can't if he's trying to do
 

8651
02:48:28,560 --> 02:48:30,269
He probably can't if he's trying to do
lawsuits and all that other things, you

8652
02:48:30,269 --> 02:48:30,279
lawsuits and all that other things, you
 

8653
02:48:30,279 --> 02:48:33,429
lawsuits and all that other things, you
know. I I couldn't imagine what the part

8654
02:48:33,429 --> 02:48:33,439
know. I I couldn't imagine what the part
 

8655
02:48:33,439 --> 02:48:34,950
know. I I couldn't imagine what the part
reason is. This is just me theorizing

8656
02:48:34,950 --> 02:48:34,960
reason is. This is just me theorizing
 

8657
02:48:34,960 --> 02:48:37,030
reason is. This is just me theorizing
and just kind of throwing ideas out

8658
02:48:37,030 --> 02:48:37,040
and just kind of throwing ideas out
 

8659
02:48:37,040 --> 02:48:38,790
and just kind of throwing ideas out
there.

8660
02:48:38,790 --> 02:48:38,800
there.
 

8661
02:48:38,800 --> 02:48:40,469
there.
I understand. Yeah, that could be the

8662
02:48:40,469 --> 02:48:40,479
I understand. Yeah, that could be the
 

8663
02:48:40,479 --> 02:48:42,710
I understand. Yeah, that could be the
the uh the what am I trying to say? That

8664
02:48:42,710 --> 02:48:42,720
the uh the what am I trying to say? That
 

8665
02:48:42,720 --> 02:48:45,190
the uh the what am I trying to say? That
could be uh possible that yeah, it's

8666
02:48:45,190 --> 02:48:45,200
could be uh possible that yeah, it's
 

8667
02:48:45,200 --> 02:48:47,269
could be uh possible that yeah, it's
just maybe he is working on a lawsuit

8668
02:48:47,269 --> 02:48:47,279
just maybe he is working on a lawsuit
 

8669
02:48:47,279 --> 02:48:50,389
just maybe he is working on a lawsuit
against both KP or Brony Fandol or one

8670
02:48:50,389 --> 02:48:50,399
against both KP or Brony Fandol or one
 

8671
02:48:50,399 --> 02:48:52,070
against both KP or Brony Fandol or one
of them. Who knows? And maybe because of

8672
02:48:52,070 --> 02:48:52,080
of them. Who knows? And maybe because of
 

8673
02:48:52,080 --> 02:48:54,870
of them. Who knows? And maybe because of
that he is trying to be mindful about

8674
02:48:54,870 --> 02:48:54,880
that he is trying to be mindful about
 

8675
02:48:54,880 --> 02:48:57,110
that he is trying to be mindful about
what he says. Yeah, maybe it works

8676
02:48:57,110 --> 02:48:57,120
what he says. Yeah, maybe it works
 

8677
02:48:57,120 --> 02:49:00,469
what he says. Yeah, maybe it works
better it works. Sorry. Um I was going

8678
02:49:00,469 --> 02:49:00,479
better it works. Sorry. Um I was going
 

8679
02:49:00,479 --> 02:49:02,950
better it works. Sorry. Um I was going
to say it works better in his favor to

8680
02:49:02,950 --> 02:49:02,960
to say it works better in his favor to
 

8681
02:49:02,960 --> 02:49:05,110
to say it works better in his favor to
sue these two people for like defamation

8682
02:49:05,110 --> 02:49:05,120
sue these two people for like defamation
 

8683
02:49:05,120 --> 02:49:07,830
sue these two people for like defamation
if you don't exist. If he just if he

8684
02:49:07,830 --> 02:49:07,840
if you don't exist. If he just if he
 

8685
02:49:07,840 --> 02:49:09,269
if you don't exist. If he just if he
just can like prove like this is just

8686
02:49:09,269 --> 02:49:09,279
just can like prove like this is just
 

8687
02:49:09,279 --> 02:49:11,030
just can like prove like this is just
something they made up about me

8688
02:49:11,030 --> 02:49:11,040
something they made up about me
 

8689
02:49:11,040 --> 02:49:12,550
something they made up about me
maliciously because they don't like me

8690
02:49:12,550 --> 02:49:12,560
maliciously because they don't like me
 

8691
02:49:12,560 --> 02:49:15,030
maliciously because they don't like me
and you don't exist, that's an easy win

8692
02:49:15,030 --> 02:49:15,040
and you don't exist, that's an easy win
 

8693
02:49:15,040 --> 02:49:17,510
and you don't exist, that's an easy win
in court. But since you do exist, I

8694
02:49:17,510 --> 02:49:17,520
in court. But since you do exist, I
 

8695
02:49:17,520 --> 02:49:19,349
in court. But since you do exist, I
don't know. It's a little harder, you

8696
02:49:19,349 --> 02:49:19,359
don't know. It's a little harder, you
 

8697
02:49:19,359 --> 02:49:20,870
don't know. It's a little harder, you
know.

8698
02:49:20,870 --> 02:49:20,880
know.
 

8699
02:49:20,880 --> 02:49:23,429
know.
Yeah. A little little more difficult cuz

8700
02:49:23,429 --> 02:49:23,439
Yeah. A little little more difficult cuz
 

8701
02:49:23,439 --> 02:49:25,269
Yeah. A little little more difficult cuz
now that he kind of has to address this

8702
02:49:25,269 --> 02:49:25,279
now that he kind of has to address this
 

8703
02:49:25,279 --> 02:49:26,710
now that he kind of has to address this
person who is real that's actually

8704
02:49:26,710 --> 02:49:26,720
person who is real that's actually
 

8705
02:49:26,720 --> 02:49:29,110
person who is real that's actually
making an accusation that they stand by.

8706
02:49:29,110 --> 02:49:29,120
making an accusation that they stand by.
 

8707
02:49:29,120 --> 02:49:30,309
making an accusation that they stand by.
You know, they might not stand by the

8708
02:49:30,309 --> 02:49:30,319
You know, they might not stand by the
 

8709
02:49:30,319 --> 02:49:32,230
You know, they might not stand by the
the way it was put out there, but they

8710
02:49:32,230 --> 02:49:32,240
the way it was put out there, but they
 

8711
02:49:32,240 --> 02:49:33,429
the way it was put out there, but they
still are like, "Yeah, this was a thing

8712
02:49:33,429 --> 02:49:33,439
still are like, "Yeah, this was a thing
 

8713
02:49:33,439 --> 02:49:34,790
still are like, "Yeah, this was a thing
that happened. I'm not like just making

8714
02:49:34,790 --> 02:49:34,800
that happened. I'm not like just making
 

8715
02:49:34,800 --> 02:49:36,790
that happened. I'm not like just making
this up.

8716
02:49:36,790 --> 02:49:36,800
this up.
 

8717
02:49:36,800 --> 02:49:38,550
this up.
Yeah, like yes, the way that it

8718
02:49:38,550 --> 02:49:38,560
Yeah, like yes, the way that it
 

8719
02:49:38,560 --> 02:49:40,469
Yeah, like yes, the way that it
happened, I don't stand by that, but

8720
02:49:40,469 --> 02:49:40,479
happened, I don't stand by that, but
 

8721
02:49:40,479 --> 02:49:44,309
happened, I don't stand by that, but
yes, this that's that's my story.

8722
02:49:44,309 --> 02:49:44,319
yes, this that's that's my story.
 

8723
02:49:44,319 --> 02:49:45,670
yes, this that's that's my story.
What do you want to happen like with

8724
02:49:45,670 --> 02:49:45,680
What do you want to happen like with
 

8725
02:49:45,680 --> 02:49:46,950
What do you want to happen like with
Sabers Spark? Like, what was your end

8726
02:49:46,950 --> 02:49:46,960
Sabers Spark? Like, what was your end
 

8727
02:49:46,960 --> 02:49:48,630
Sabers Spark? Like, what was your end
goal in sharing this? Were you just like

8728
02:49:48,630 --> 02:49:48,640
goal in sharing this? Were you just like
 

8729
02:49:48,640 --> 02:49:50,389
goal in sharing this? Were you just like
were you are you like on the whole like

8730
02:49:50,389 --> 02:49:50,399
were you are you like on the whole like
 

8731
02:49:50,399 --> 02:49:52,710
were you are you like on the whole like
let's burn everything Sabers Spark made

8732
02:49:52,710 --> 02:49:52,720
let's burn everything Sabers Spark made
 

8733
02:49:52,720 --> 02:49:55,269
let's burn everything Sabers Spark made
or like what what's your like kind of

8734
02:49:55,269 --> 02:49:55,279
or like what what's your like kind of
 

8735
02:49:55,279 --> 02:49:56,990
or like what what's your like kind of
end goal in

8736
02:49:56,990 --> 02:49:57,000
end goal in
 

8737
02:49:57,000 --> 02:50:00,630
end goal in
this? In all honesty, when it came to

8738
02:50:00,630 --> 02:50:00,640
this? In all honesty, when it came to
 

8739
02:50:00,640 --> 02:50:03,030
this? In all honesty, when it came to
speaking out, there wasn't really a

8740
02:50:03,030 --> 02:50:03,040
speaking out, there wasn't really a
 

8741
02:50:03,040 --> 02:50:06,550
speaking out, there wasn't really a
whole lot of one, apart from just me

8742
02:50:06,550 --> 02:50:06,560
whole lot of one, apart from just me
 

8743
02:50:06,560 --> 02:50:08,550
whole lot of one, apart from just me
proving that I could actually speak up

8744
02:50:08,550 --> 02:50:08,560
proving that I could actually speak up
 

8745
02:50:08,560 --> 02:50:10,630
proving that I could actually speak up
about something because like I

8746
02:50:10,630 --> 02:50:10,640
about something because like I
 

8747
02:50:10,640 --> 02:50:13,950
about something because like I
mentioned, I have a history of dealing

8748
02:50:13,950 --> 02:50:13,960
mentioned, I have a history of dealing
 

8749
02:50:13,960 --> 02:50:17,349
mentioned, I have a history of dealing
with assault and I have not been good

8750
02:50:17,349 --> 02:50:17,359
with assault and I have not been good
 

8751
02:50:17,359 --> 02:50:20,469
with assault and I have not been good
about speaking up about it. And for me

8752
02:50:20,469 --> 02:50:20,479
about speaking up about it. And for me
 

8753
02:50:20,479 --> 02:50:22,469
about speaking up about it. And for me
more than anything, it was just kind of

8754
02:50:22,469 --> 02:50:22,479
more than anything, it was just kind of
 

8755
02:50:22,479 --> 02:50:27,030
more than anything, it was just kind of
a personal thing of saying, "No, I I I'm

8756
02:50:27,030 --> 02:50:27,040
a personal thing of saying, "No, I I I'm
 

8757
02:50:27,040 --> 02:50:29,030
a personal thing of saying, "No, I I I'm
not okay with this." Uh, this has

8758
02:50:29,030 --> 02:50:29,040
not okay with this." Uh, this has
 

8759
02:50:29,040 --> 02:50:31,110
not okay with this." Uh, this has
nothing to do with honestly, it's not

8760
02:50:31,110 --> 02:50:31,120
nothing to do with honestly, it's not
 

8761
02:50:31,120 --> 02:50:33,349
nothing to do with honestly, it's not
anything to do with trying to hurt him.

8762
02:50:33,349 --> 02:50:33,359
anything to do with trying to hurt him.
 

8763
02:50:33,359 --> 02:50:36,230
anything to do with trying to hurt him.
And obviously, I acknowledge it does.

8764
02:50:36,230 --> 02:50:36,240
And obviously, I acknowledge it does.
 

8765
02:50:36,240 --> 02:50:38,070
And obviously, I acknowledge it does.
you know, I don't really want to hurt

8766
02:50:38,070 --> 02:50:38,080
you know, I don't really want to hurt
 

8767
02:50:38,080 --> 02:50:40,349
you know, I don't really want to hurt
anybody, but at the same

8768
02:50:40,349 --> 02:50:40,359
anybody, but at the same
 

8769
02:50:40,359 --> 02:50:43,110
anybody, but at the same
time, honestly, when it came to like the

8770
02:50:43,110 --> 02:50:43,120
time, honestly, when it came to like the
 

8771
02:50:43,120 --> 02:50:45,910
time, honestly, when it came to like the
story coming out, deep down, I just kind

8772
02:50:45,910 --> 02:50:45,920
story coming out, deep down, I just kind
 

8773
02:50:45,920 --> 02:50:48,070
story coming out, deep down, I just kind
of had hoped, you know, I mentioned I

8774
02:50:48,070 --> 02:50:48,080
of had hoped, you know, I mentioned I
 

8775
02:50:48,080 --> 02:50:49,910
of had hoped, you know, I mentioned I
don't want him to reach out, but if he

8776
02:50:49,910 --> 02:50:49,920
don't want him to reach out, but if he
 

8777
02:50:49,920 --> 02:50:52,070
don't want him to reach out, but if he
had emailed me and just gave me an

8778
02:50:52,070 --> 02:50:52,080
had emailed me and just gave me an
 

8779
02:50:52,080 --> 02:50:54,950
had emailed me and just gave me an
apology of like, I I'm sorry. I didn't

8780
02:50:54,950 --> 02:50:54,960
apology of like, I I'm sorry. I didn't
 

8781
02:50:54,960 --> 02:50:56,670
apology of like, I I'm sorry. I didn't
realize that I had made you

8782
02:50:56,670 --> 02:50:56,680
realize that I had made you
 

8783
02:50:56,680 --> 02:50:58,790
realize that I had made you
uncomfortable, that would have been a

8784
02:50:58,790 --> 02:50:58,800
uncomfortable, that would have been a
 

8785
02:50:58,800 --> 02:51:02,030
uncomfortable, that would have been a
very healing thing to receive, you know?

8786
02:51:02,030 --> 02:51:02,040
very healing thing to receive, you know?
 

8787
02:51:02,040 --> 02:51:04,309
very healing thing to receive, you know?
Would with that even just addressing

8788
02:51:04,309 --> 02:51:04,319
Would with that even just addressing
 

8789
02:51:04,319 --> 02:51:06,550
Would with that even just addressing
that part, would you be like, not that I

8790
02:51:06,550 --> 02:51:06,560
that part, would you be like, not that I
 

8791
02:51:06,560 --> 02:51:07,750
that part, would you be like, not that I
would ever set this up because I don't

8792
02:51:07,750 --> 02:51:07,760
would ever set this up because I don't
 

8793
02:51:07,760 --> 02:51:09,830
would ever set this up because I don't
know, would you ever like be interested

8794
02:51:09,830 --> 02:51:09,840
know, would you ever like be interested
 

8795
02:51:09,840 --> 02:51:11,190
know, would you ever like be interested
in even just talking to Stephen

8796
02:51:11,190 --> 02:51:11,200
in even just talking to Stephen
 

8797
02:51:11,200 --> 02:51:14,150
in even just talking to Stephen
one-on-one at all about this? Like could

8798
02:51:14,150 --> 02:51:14,160
one-on-one at all about this? Like could
 

8799
02:51:14,160 --> 02:51:16,309
one-on-one at all about this? Like could
you?

8800
02:51:16,309 --> 02:51:16,319
you?
 

8801
02:51:16,319 --> 02:51:18,230
you?
I don't know if I could ever feel

8802
02:51:18,230 --> 02:51:18,240
I don't know if I could ever feel
 

8803
02:51:18,240 --> 02:51:21,190
I don't know if I could ever feel
comfortable being in a situation where

8804
02:51:21,190 --> 02:51:21,200
comfortable being in a situation where
 

8805
02:51:21,200 --> 02:51:23,110
comfortable being in a situation where
I'm actually directly speaking to him,

8806
02:51:23,110 --> 02:51:23,120
I'm actually directly speaking to him,
 

8807
02:51:23,120 --> 02:51:25,670
I'm actually directly speaking to him,
like voice with voice. Sure. I just feel

8808
02:51:25,670 --> 02:51:25,680
like voice with voice. Sure. I just feel
 

8809
02:51:25,680 --> 02:51:28,950
like voice with voice. Sure. I just feel
like I it I feel like I'm I would be so

8810
02:51:28,950 --> 02:51:28,960
like I it I feel like I'm I would be so
 

8811
02:51:28,960 --> 02:51:31,429
like I it I feel like I'm I would be so
anxious talking to him because of what

8812
02:51:31,429 --> 02:51:31,439
anxious talking to him because of what
 

8813
02:51:31,439 --> 02:51:34,070
anxious talking to him because of what
happened, you know? But if it were like

8814
02:51:34,070 --> 02:51:34,080
happened, you know? But if it were like
 

8815
02:51:34,080 --> 02:51:36,150
happened, you know? But if it were like
an email conversation or something where

8816
02:51:36,150 --> 02:51:36,160
an email conversation or something where
 

8817
02:51:36,160 --> 02:51:38,070
an email conversation or something where
I'm able to kind of have my boundaries

8818
02:51:38,070 --> 02:51:38,080
I'm able to kind of have my boundaries
 

8819
02:51:38,080 --> 02:51:40,230
I'm able to kind of have my boundaries
just there, so it's you know what I

8820
02:51:40,230 --> 02:51:40,240
just there, so it's you know what I
 

8821
02:51:40,240 --> 02:51:43,269
just there, so it's you know what I
mean? It's just I I his voice it it it

8822
02:51:43,269 --> 02:51:43,279
mean? It's just I I his voice it it it
 

8823
02:51:43,279 --> 02:51:45,670
mean? It's just I I his voice it it it
just kind of makes me anxious. Yeah. Um,

8824
02:51:45,670 --> 02:51:45,680
just kind of makes me anxious. Yeah. Um,
 

8825
02:51:45,680 --> 02:51:47,830
just kind of makes me anxious. Yeah. Um,
but yeah, like if he did email me or

8826
02:51:47,830 --> 02:51:47,840
but yeah, like if he did email me or
 

8827
02:51:47,840 --> 02:51:49,910
but yeah, like if he did email me or
something, I I would be willing to have

8828
02:51:49,910 --> 02:51:49,920
something, I I would be willing to have
 

8829
02:51:49,920 --> 02:51:51,830
something, I I would be willing to have
that conversation with him, you know,

8830
02:51:51,830 --> 02:51:51,840
that conversation with him, you know,
 

8831
02:51:51,840 --> 02:51:55,269
that conversation with him, you know,
privately, one-on-one. And, you know,

8832
02:51:55,269 --> 02:51:55,279
privately, one-on-one. And, you know,
 

8833
02:51:55,279 --> 02:51:57,990
privately, one-on-one. And, you know,
genuinely, obviously, he can't take away

8834
02:51:57,990 --> 02:51:58,000
genuinely, obviously, he can't take away
 

8835
02:51:58,000 --> 02:52:00,670
genuinely, obviously, he can't take away
what he put me through.

8836
02:52:00,670 --> 02:52:00,680
what he put me through.
 

8837
02:52:00,680 --> 02:52:05,429
what he put me through.
Um, but I do believe that in some

8838
02:52:05,429 --> 02:52:05,439
Um, but I do believe that in some
 

8839
02:52:05,439 --> 02:52:07,670
Um, but I do believe that in some
situations, like there are people who

8840
02:52:07,670 --> 02:52:07,680
situations, like there are people who
 

8841
02:52:07,680 --> 02:52:09,670
situations, like there are people who
can better themselves. And if he

8842
02:52:09,670 --> 02:52:09,680
can better themselves. And if he
 

8843
02:52:09,680 --> 02:52:12,309
can better themselves. And if he
genuinely cared about how he made people

8844
02:52:12,309 --> 02:52:12,319
genuinely cared about how he made people
 

8845
02:52:12,319 --> 02:52:16,230
genuinely cared about how he made people
feel and the impact that people as large

8846
02:52:16,230 --> 02:52:16,240
feel and the impact that people as large
 

8847
02:52:16,240 --> 02:52:18,070
feel and the impact that people as large
content creators can make and the kind

8848
02:52:18,070 --> 02:52:18,080
content creators can make and the kind
 

8849
02:52:18,080 --> 02:52:20,309
content creators can make and the kind
of power that they have, I feel like he

8850
02:52:20,309 --> 02:52:20,319
of power that they have, I feel like he
 

8851
02:52:20,319 --> 02:52:22,070
of power that they have, I feel like he
would want to be able to make that

8852
02:52:22,070 --> 02:52:22,080
would want to be able to make that
 

8853
02:52:22,080 --> 02:52:24,469
would want to be able to make that
right. And I would welcome that if this

8854
02:52:24,469 --> 02:52:24,479
right. And I would welcome that if this
 

8855
02:52:24,479 --> 02:52:26,469
right. And I would welcome that if this
there was an epiphany one day where he

8856
02:52:26,469 --> 02:52:26,479
there was an epiphany one day where he
 

8857
02:52:26,479 --> 02:52:29,030
there was an epiphany one day where he
realized, you know what, yeah, I I

8858
02:52:29,030 --> 02:52:29,040
realized, you know what, yeah, I I
 

8859
02:52:29,040 --> 02:52:31,990
realized, you know what, yeah, I I
[\h__\h] up. I I should not have done

8860
02:52:31,990 --> 02:52:32,000
[\h__\h] up. I I should not have done
 

8861
02:52:32,000 --> 02:52:33,590
[\h__\h] up. I I should not have done
that. I was kind of taking advantage of

8862
02:52:33,590 --> 02:52:33,600
that. I was kind of taking advantage of
 

8863
02:52:33,600 --> 02:52:36,389
that. I was kind of taking advantage of
her for this reason. And hey, I'm I'm

8864
02:52:36,389 --> 02:52:36,399
her for this reason. And hey, I'm I'm
 

8865
02:52:36,399 --> 02:52:38,870
her for this reason. And hey, I'm I'm
sorry, you know. And since then, I've

8866
02:52:38,870 --> 02:52:38,880
sorry, you know. And since then, I've
 

8867
02:52:38,880 --> 02:52:40,630
sorry, you know. And since then, I've
grown and I've changed as a person and

8868
02:52:40,630 --> 02:52:40,640
grown and I've changed as a person and
 

8869
02:52:40,640 --> 02:52:43,030
grown and I've changed as a person and
you didn't deserve that. You know, it

8870
02:52:43,030 --> 02:52:43,040
you didn't deserve that. You know, it
 

8871
02:52:43,040 --> 02:52:45,190
you didn't deserve that. You know, it
won't be able to take away what it

8872
02:52:45,190 --> 02:52:45,200
won't be able to take away what it
 

8873
02:52:45,200 --> 02:52:48,630
won't be able to take away what it
caused. But, you know, that'd be

8874
02:52:48,630 --> 02:52:48,640
caused. But, you know, that'd be
 

8875
02:52:48,640 --> 02:52:51,190
caused. But, you know, that'd be
awesome. I that would be a really

8876
02:52:51,190 --> 02:52:51,200
awesome. I that would be a really
 

8877
02:52:51,200 --> 02:52:53,110
awesome. I that would be a really
helpful piece to the healing, you know.

8878
02:52:53,110 --> 02:52:53,120
helpful piece to the healing, you know.
 

8879
02:52:53,120 --> 02:52:55,990
helpful piece to the healing, you know.
Not that I need it because nobody nobody

8880
02:52:55,990 --> 02:52:56,000
Not that I need it because nobody nobody
 

8881
02:52:56,000 --> 02:52:57,910
Not that I need it because nobody nobody
should expect an apology from somebody

8882
02:52:57,910 --> 02:52:57,920
should expect an apology from somebody
 

8883
02:52:57,920 --> 02:53:00,230
should expect an apology from somebody
who hurt them to heal, you know, but it

8884
02:53:00,230 --> 02:53:00,240
who hurt them to heal, you know, but it
 

8885
02:53:00,240 --> 02:53:02,150
who hurt them to heal, you know, but it
would, you know, it doesn't it helps,

8886
02:53:02,150 --> 02:53:02,160
would, you know, it doesn't it helps,
 

8887
02:53:02,160 --> 02:53:04,630
would, you know, it doesn't it helps,
you know. Sure. Yeah. And I mean, you

8888
02:53:04,630 --> 02:53:04,640
you know. Sure. Yeah. And I mean, you
 

8889
02:53:04,640 --> 02:53:05,910
you know. Sure. Yeah. And I mean, you
know, it's one of those things where

8890
02:53:05,910 --> 02:53:05,920
know, it's one of those things where
 

8891
02:53:05,920 --> 02:53:07,150
know, it's one of those things where
it's

8892
02:53:07,150 --> 02:53:07,160
it's
 

8893
02:53:07,160 --> 02:53:10,990
it's
like sometimes like just kind

8894
02:53:10,990 --> 02:53:11,000
like sometimes like just kind
 

8895
02:53:11,000 --> 02:53:13,910
like sometimes like just kind
of bearing witness to somebody's like

8896
02:53:13,910 --> 02:53:13,920
of bearing witness to somebody's like
 

8897
02:53:13,920 --> 02:53:15,670
of bearing witness to somebody's like
improvement over time is enough of a

8898
02:53:15,670 --> 02:53:15,680
improvement over time is enough of a
 

8899
02:53:15,680 --> 02:53:18,150
improvement over time is enough of a
healing factor. I I guess that's for me

8900
02:53:18,150 --> 02:53:18,160
healing factor. I I guess that's for me
 

8901
02:53:18,160 --> 02:53:20,469
healing factor. I I guess that's for me
like I've had people that's wronged me

8902
02:53:20,469 --> 02:53:20,479
like I've had people that's wronged me
 

8903
02:53:20,479 --> 02:53:22,389
like I've had people that's wronged me
in the past and I was always under the

8904
02:53:22,389 --> 02:53:22,399
in the past and I was always under the
 

8905
02:53:22,399 --> 02:53:23,750
in the past and I was always under the
impression cuz I don't like to assume

8906
02:53:23,750 --> 02:53:23,760
impression cuz I don't like to assume
 

8907
02:53:23,760 --> 02:53:26,150
impression cuz I don't like to assume
the worst the absolute worst of people

8908
02:53:26,150 --> 02:53:26,160
the worst the absolute worst of people
 

8909
02:53:26,160 --> 02:53:27,590
the worst the absolute worst of people
even with like dealing with half of the

8910
02:53:27,590 --> 02:53:27,600
even with like dealing with half of the
 

8911
02:53:27,600 --> 02:53:28,950
even with like dealing with half of the
people I've been trying to deal with in

8912
02:53:28,950 --> 02:53:28,960
people I've been trying to deal with in
 

8913
02:53:28,960 --> 02:53:30,710
people I've been trying to deal with in
this whole debacle that we've been

8914
02:53:30,710 --> 02:53:30,720
this whole debacle that we've been
 

8915
02:53:30,720 --> 02:53:33,590
this whole debacle that we've been
investigating. Like even with the people

8916
02:53:33,590 --> 02:53:33,600
investigating. Like even with the people
 

8917
02:53:33,600 --> 02:53:35,190
investigating. Like even with the people
that like frustrate me, I don't want to

8918
02:53:35,190 --> 02:53:35,200
that like frustrate me, I don't want to
 

8919
02:53:35,200 --> 02:53:37,750
that like frustrate me, I don't want to
assume anything ill will, right? Uh and

8920
02:53:37,750 --> 02:53:37,760
assume anything ill will, right? Uh and
 

8921
02:53:37,760 --> 02:53:39,349
assume anything ill will, right? Uh and
people that have wronged me in the past,

8922
02:53:39,349 --> 02:53:39,359
people that have wronged me in the past,
 

8923
02:53:39,359 --> 02:53:40,950
people that have wronged me in the past,
I don't like assuming ill of them. So

8924
02:53:40,950 --> 02:53:40,960
I don't like assuming ill of them. So
 

8925
02:53:40,960 --> 02:53:42,070
I don't like assuming ill of them. So
when I see them and they're like

8926
02:53:42,070 --> 02:53:42,080
when I see them and they're like
 

8927
02:53:42,080 --> 02:53:44,309
when I see them and they're like
actually like doing well in life, it

8928
02:53:44,309 --> 02:53:44,319
actually like doing well in life, it
 

8929
02:53:44,319 --> 02:53:46,070
actually like doing well in life, it
doesn't make me angry. It makes me feel

8930
02:53:46,070 --> 02:53:46,080
doesn't make me angry. It makes me feel
 

8931
02:53:46,080 --> 02:53:47,269
doesn't make me angry. It makes me feel
better because it makes me feel like,

8932
02:53:47,269 --> 02:53:47,279
better because it makes me feel like,
 

8933
02:53:47,279 --> 02:53:49,030
better because it makes me feel like,
oh, okay, they're not that much of a

8934
02:53:49,030 --> 02:53:49,040
oh, okay, they're not that much of a
 

8935
02:53:49,040 --> 02:53:51,269
oh, okay, they're not that much of a
[\h__\h] anymore. Thank God. You know

8936
02:53:51,269 --> 02:53:51,279
[\h__\h] anymore. Thank God. You know
 

8937
02:53:51,279 --> 02:53:53,750
[\h__\h] anymore. Thank God. You know
what I mean? Like it's it it's one of

8938
02:53:53,750 --> 02:53:53,760
what I mean? Like it's it it's one of
 

8939
02:53:53,760 --> 02:53:55,750
what I mean? Like it's it it's one of
those things where it's like maybe their

8940
02:53:55,750 --> 02:53:55,760
those things where it's like maybe their
 

8941
02:53:55,760 --> 02:53:57,830
those things where it's like maybe their
actions show more of like a how sorry

8942
02:53:57,830 --> 02:53:57,840
actions show more of like a how sorry
 

8943
02:53:57,840 --> 02:53:59,269
actions show more of like a how sorry
they are. they've changed for the better

8944
02:53:59,269 --> 02:53:59,279
they are. they've changed for the better
 

8945
02:53:59,279 --> 02:54:01,590
they are. they've changed for the better
than like actually receiving that

8946
02:54:01,590 --> 02:54:01,600
than like actually receiving that
 

8947
02:54:01,600 --> 02:54:03,750
than like actually receiving that
physical I'm sorry kind of thing cuz

8948
02:54:03,750 --> 02:54:03,760
physical I'm sorry kind of thing cuz
 

8949
02:54:03,760 --> 02:54:05,429
physical I'm sorry kind of thing cuz
sometimes you'll never get that. But

8950
02:54:05,429 --> 02:54:05,439
sometimes you'll never get that. But
 

8951
02:54:05,439 --> 02:54:07,389
sometimes you'll never get that. But
just seeing that they can

8952
02:54:07,389 --> 02:54:07,399
just seeing that they can
 

8953
02:54:07,399 --> 02:54:11,670
just seeing that they can
be more willing for emotional growth is

8954
02:54:11,670 --> 02:54:11,680
be more willing for emotional growth is
 

8955
02:54:11,680 --> 02:54:14,950
be more willing for emotional growth is
kind of comforting. I think

8956
02:54:14,950 --> 02:54:14,960
kind of comforting. I think
 

8957
02:54:14,960 --> 02:54:17,190
kind of comforting. I think
is comforting. That's how I feel too

8958
02:54:17,190 --> 02:54:17,200
is comforting. That's how I feel too
 

8959
02:54:17,200 --> 02:54:19,030
is comforting. That's how I feel too
about I'll extend that to Lizzy. You

8960
02:54:19,030 --> 02:54:19,040
about I'll extend that to Lizzy. You
 

8961
02:54:19,040 --> 02:54:21,510
about I'll extend that to Lizzy. You
know, if I hope that one day she gets

8962
02:54:21,510 --> 02:54:21,520
know, if I hope that one day she gets
 

8963
02:54:21,520 --> 02:54:24,710
know, if I hope that one day she gets
the she gets what she needs so she can

8964
02:54:24,710 --> 02:54:24,720
the she gets what she needs so she can
 

8965
02:54:24,720 --> 02:54:26,630
the she gets what she needs so she can
be happy and she can live for herself

8966
02:54:26,630 --> 02:54:26,640
be happy and she can live for herself
 

8967
02:54:26,640 --> 02:54:29,349
be happy and she can live for herself
and focus on her and if she finally

8968
02:54:29,349 --> 02:54:29,359
and focus on her and if she finally
 

8969
02:54:29,359 --> 02:54:31,349
and focus on her and if she finally
decides I'm going to kind of drop this

8970
02:54:31,349 --> 02:54:31,359
decides I'm going to kind of drop this
 

8971
02:54:31,359 --> 02:54:33,990
decides I'm going to kind of drop this
whole thing with the the Emmy stuff, I'd

8972
02:54:33,990 --> 02:54:34,000
whole thing with the the Emmy stuff, I'd
 

8973
02:54:34,000 --> 02:54:35,830
whole thing with the the Emmy stuff, I'd
be so happy for her. You know, it

8974
02:54:35,830 --> 02:54:35,840
be so happy for her. You know, it
 

8975
02:54:35,840 --> 02:54:37,910
be so happy for her. You know, it
doesn't take away the pain, but I'd be

8976
02:54:37,910 --> 02:54:37,920
doesn't take away the pain, but I'd be
 

8977
02:54:37,920 --> 02:54:40,469
doesn't take away the pain, but I'd be
so happy for her. Like, you go, you

8978
02:54:40,469 --> 02:54:40,479
so happy for her. Like, you go, you
 

8979
02:54:40,479 --> 02:54:43,190
so happy for her. Like, you go, you
know, you go, girl. Right.

8980
02:54:43,190 --> 02:54:43,200
know, you go, girl. Right.
 

8981
02:54:43,200 --> 02:54:44,950
know, you go, girl. Right.
So, what has this whole experience like

8982
02:54:44,950 --> 02:54:44,960
So, what has this whole experience like
 

8983
02:54:44,960 --> 02:54:47,349
So, what has this whole experience like
just going to YouTubers handling your

8984
02:54:47,349 --> 02:54:47,359
just going to YouTubers handling your
 

8985
02:54:47,359 --> 02:54:49,670
just going to YouTubers handling your
whole situation and like having all this

8986
02:54:49,670 --> 02:54:49,680
whole situation and like having all this
 

8987
02:54:49,680 --> 02:54:51,510
whole situation and like having all this
happen? Like, you know, people figuring

8988
02:54:51,510 --> 02:54:51,520
happen? Like, you know, people figuring
 

8989
02:54:51,520 --> 02:54:53,190
happen? Like, you know, people figuring
out who you are even on Reddit and stuff

8990
02:54:53,190 --> 02:54:53,200
out who you are even on Reddit and stuff
 

8991
02:54:53,200 --> 02:54:55,349
out who you are even on Reddit and stuff
like that. Like, how has this whole

8992
02:54:55,349 --> 02:54:55,359
like that. Like, how has this whole
 

8993
02:54:55,359 --> 02:54:57,990
like that. Like, how has this whole
thing just been? Cuz it's it's it's it's

8994
02:54:57,990 --> 02:54:58,000
thing just been? Cuz it's it's it's it's
 

8995
02:54:58,000 --> 02:55:01,670
thing just been? Cuz it's it's it's it's
I could not imagine it going this wrong,

8996
02:55:01,670 --> 02:55:01,680
I could not imagine it going this wrong,
 

8997
02:55:01,680 --> 02:55:03,349
I could not imagine it going this wrong,
like for in a victim's perspective,

8998
02:55:03,349 --> 02:55:03,359
like for in a victim's perspective,
 

8999
02:55:03,359 --> 02:55:05,349
like for in a victim's perspective,
having it go this wrong and ever feeling

9000
02:55:05,349 --> 02:55:05,359
having it go this wrong and ever feeling
 

9001
02:55:05,359 --> 02:55:09,030
having it go this wrong and ever feeling
okay again. Like, what is that like?

9002
02:55:09,030 --> 02:55:09,040
okay again. Like, what is that like?
 

9003
02:55:09,040 --> 02:55:11,670
okay again. Like, what is that like?
Like, just bearing witness to all of it.

9004
02:55:11,670 --> 02:55:11,680
Like, just bearing witness to all of it.
 

9005
02:55:11,680 --> 02:55:15,110
Like, just bearing witness to all of it.
It's hard. I It's It's difficult if I'm

9006
02:55:15,110 --> 02:55:15,120
It's hard. I It's It's difficult if I'm
 

9007
02:55:15,120 --> 02:55:18,309
It's hard. I It's It's difficult if I'm
to be completely like transparent. Um

9008
02:55:18,309 --> 02:55:18,319
to be completely like transparent. Um
 

9009
02:55:18,319 --> 02:55:19,950
to be completely like transparent. Um
this has been a

9010
02:55:19,950 --> 02:55:19,960
this has been a
 

9011
02:55:19,960 --> 02:55:24,469
this has been a
pretty brain chemistry altering week.

9012
02:55:24,469 --> 02:55:24,479
pretty brain chemistry altering week.
 

9013
02:55:24,479 --> 02:55:27,590
pretty brain chemistry altering week.
Oh [\h__\h]

9014
02:55:27,590 --> 02:55:27,600
Oh [\h__\h]
 

9015
02:55:27,600 --> 02:55:29,830
Oh [\h__\h]
Like I have lost so much sleep. I have

9016
02:55:29,830 --> 02:55:29,840
Like I have lost so much sleep. I have
 

9017
02:55:29,840 --> 02:55:32,150
Like I have lost so much sleep. I have
been just falling behind on all of my

9018
02:55:32,150 --> 02:55:32,160
been just falling behind on all of my
 

9019
02:55:32,160 --> 02:55:36,389
been just falling behind on all of my
personal work. um a lot of crying, a lot

9020
02:55:36,389 --> 02:55:36,399
personal work. um a lot of crying, a lot
 

9021
02:55:36,399 --> 02:55:40,230
personal work. um a lot of crying, a lot
of uh reading self-help books, just

9022
02:55:40,230 --> 02:55:40,240
of uh reading self-help books, just
 

9023
02:55:40,240 --> 02:55:42,630
of uh reading self-help books, just
trying to kind of figure out where I

9024
02:55:42,630 --> 02:55:42,640
trying to kind of figure out where I
 

9025
02:55:42,640 --> 02:55:46,309
trying to kind of figure out where I
need to go. And you know, I'm able to

9026
02:55:46,309 --> 02:55:46,319
need to go. And you know, I'm able to
 

9027
02:55:46,319 --> 02:55:48,550
need to go. And you know, I'm able to
take from this situation something

9028
02:55:48,550 --> 02:55:48,560
take from this situation something
 

9029
02:55:48,560 --> 02:55:51,030
take from this situation something
really positive and that is we need to

9030
02:55:51,030 --> 02:55:51,040
really positive and that is we need to
 

9031
02:55:51,040 --> 02:55:53,670
really positive and that is we need to
be in charge of our own healing journey.

9032
02:55:53,670 --> 02:55:53,680
be in charge of our own healing journey.
 

9033
02:55:53,680 --> 02:55:55,590
be in charge of our own healing journey.
You know, I think that for the longest

9034
02:55:55,590 --> 02:55:55,600
You know, I think that for the longest
 

9035
02:55:55,600 --> 02:55:58,790
You know, I think that for the longest
time because of my inability to tackle

9036
02:55:58,790 --> 02:55:58,800
time because of my inability to tackle
 

9037
02:55:58,800 --> 02:56:02,150
time because of my inability to tackle
speaking up and being, you know, going

9038
02:56:02,150 --> 02:56:02,160
speaking up and being, you know, going
 

9039
02:56:02,160 --> 02:56:04,070
speaking up and being, you know, going
this is not okay, you know, and trying

9040
02:56:04,070 --> 02:56:04,080
this is not okay, you know, and trying
 

9041
02:56:04,080 --> 02:56:06,150
this is not okay, you know, and trying
to then avoid it and dissociate through

9042
02:56:06,150 --> 02:56:06,160
to then avoid it and dissociate through
 

9043
02:56:06,160 --> 02:56:08,950
to then avoid it and dissociate through
it. Um, I haven't really been in charge

9044
02:56:08,950 --> 02:56:08,960
it. Um, I haven't really been in charge
 

9045
02:56:08,960 --> 02:56:10,630
it. Um, I haven't really been in charge
of that healing journey. You know, I

9046
02:56:10,630 --> 02:56:10,640
of that healing journey. You know, I
 

9047
02:56:10,640 --> 02:56:13,830
of that healing journey. You know, I
vented about it and, you know, I've I've

9048
02:56:13,830 --> 02:56:13,840
vented about it and, you know, I've I've
 

9049
02:56:13,840 --> 02:56:16,070
vented about it and, you know, I've I've
put my, you know, I've put my trust in

9050
02:56:16,070 --> 02:56:16,080
put my, you know, I've put my trust in
 

9051
02:56:16,080 --> 02:56:18,630
put my, you know, I've put my trust in
these other people because I figured,

9052
02:56:18,630 --> 02:56:18,640
these other people because I figured,
 

9053
02:56:18,640 --> 02:56:20,469
these other people because I figured,
okay, well, this kind of works. I I'm I

9054
02:56:20,469 --> 02:56:20,479
okay, well, this kind of works. I I'm I
 

9055
02:56:20,479 --> 02:56:21,990
okay, well, this kind of works. I I'm I
am going to speak up and that's good.

9056
02:56:21,990 --> 02:56:22,000
am going to speak up and that's good.
 

9057
02:56:22,000 --> 02:56:23,429
am going to speak up and that's good.
that's good because maybe I'm getting

9058
02:56:23,429 --> 02:56:23,439
that's good because maybe I'm getting
 

9059
02:56:23,439 --> 02:56:25,349
that's good because maybe I'm getting
better with this thing, but I'm also

9060
02:56:25,349 --> 02:56:25,359
better with this thing, but I'm also
 

9061
02:56:25,359 --> 02:56:27,910
better with this thing, but I'm also
still putting it in other people's hands

9062
02:56:27,910 --> 02:56:27,920
still putting it in other people's hands
 

9063
02:56:27,920 --> 02:56:30,110
still putting it in other people's hands
to help me heal.

9064
02:56:30,110 --> 02:56:30,120
to help me heal.
 

9065
02:56:30,120 --> 02:56:33,990
to help me heal.
And that was not the right move to do

9066
02:56:33,990 --> 02:56:34,000
And that was not the right move to do
 

9067
02:56:34,000 --> 02:56:36,150
And that was not the right move to do
like to go to other people, you know, to

9068
02:56:36,150 --> 02:56:36,160
like to go to other people, you know, to
 

9069
02:56:36,160 --> 02:56:38,309
like to go to other people, you know, to
be completely honest with you because,

9070
02:56:38,309 --> 02:56:38,319
be completely honest with you because,
 

9071
02:56:38,319 --> 02:56:40,550
be completely honest with you because,
you know, it's just this last week it's

9072
02:56:40,550 --> 02:56:40,560
you know, it's just this last week it's
 

9073
02:56:40,560 --> 02:56:42,150
you know, it's just this last week it's
been chaotic. I've learned that there

9074
02:56:42,150 --> 02:56:42,160
been chaotic. I've learned that there
 

9075
02:56:42,160 --> 02:56:44,550
been chaotic. I've learned that there
are going to be some people who they're

9076
02:56:44,550 --> 02:56:44,560
are going to be some people who they're
 

9077
02:56:44,560 --> 02:56:46,870
are going to be some people who they're
just going they see a situation that is

9078
02:56:46,870 --> 02:56:46,880
just going they see a situation that is
 

9079
02:56:46,880 --> 02:56:49,510
just going they see a situation that is
so personal and vulnerable and they will

9080
02:56:49,510 --> 02:56:49,520
so personal and vulnerable and they will
 

9081
02:56:49,520 --> 02:56:52,230
so personal and vulnerable and they will
take advantage of it for the sake of,

9082
02:56:52,230 --> 02:56:52,240
take advantage of it for the sake of,
 

9083
02:56:52,240 --> 02:56:53,830
take advantage of it for the sake of,
you know, trying to get the next thing

9084
02:56:53,830 --> 02:56:53,840
you know, trying to get the next thing
 

9085
02:56:53,840 --> 02:56:56,150
you know, trying to get the next thing
out. Like I I've had so many people like

9086
02:56:56,150 --> 02:56:56,160
out. Like I I've had so many people like
 

9087
02:56:56,160 --> 02:56:58,870
out. Like I I've had so many people like
just like in like Instagram DMs who are

9088
02:56:58,870 --> 02:56:58,880
just like in like Instagram DMs who are
 

9089
02:56:58,880 --> 02:57:01,190
just like in like Instagram DMs who are
like, I know who you are and you know

9090
02:57:01,190 --> 02:57:01,200
like, I know who you are and you know
 

9091
02:57:01,200 --> 02:57:03,190
like, I know who you are and you know
you I'm going to you know you better do

9092
02:57:03,190 --> 02:57:03,200
you I'm going to you know you better do
 

9093
02:57:03,200 --> 02:57:05,190
you I'm going to you know you better do
an interview with me and like these are

9094
02:57:05,190 --> 02:57:05,200
an interview with me and like these are
 

9095
02:57:05,200 --> 02:57:07,429
an interview with me and like these are
people who are like kind of low-key

9096
02:57:07,429 --> 02:57:07,439
people who are like kind of low-key
 

9097
02:57:07,439 --> 02:57:09,110
people who are like kind of low-key
trying to threaten me into these

9098
02:57:09,110 --> 02:57:09,120
trying to threaten me into these
 

9099
02:57:09,120 --> 02:57:11,190
trying to threaten me into these
interviews. Um, and these are people who

9100
02:57:11,190 --> 02:57:11,200
interviews. Um, and these are people who
 

9101
02:57:11,200 --> 02:57:13,670
interviews. Um, and these are people who
I don't know who these guys are. Um,

9102
02:57:13,670 --> 02:57:13,680
I don't know who these guys are. Um,
 

9103
02:57:13,680 --> 02:57:18,150
I don't know who these guys are. Um,
right. And they're like trying to use me

9104
02:57:18,150 --> 02:57:18,160
right. And they're like trying to use me
 

9105
02:57:18,160 --> 02:57:20,550
right. And they're like trying to use me
for this thing. And these aren't people

9106
02:57:20,550 --> 02:57:20,560
for this thing. And these aren't people
 

9107
02:57:20,560 --> 02:57:22,630
for this thing. And these aren't people
who are trying to help me. These are

9108
02:57:22,630 --> 02:57:22,640
who are trying to help me. These are
 

9109
02:57:22,640 --> 02:57:25,429
who are trying to help me. These are
people who have already began making

9110
02:57:25,429 --> 02:57:25,439
people who have already began making
 

9111
02:57:25,439 --> 02:57:28,630
people who have already began making
content against me, you know, and now

9112
02:57:28,630 --> 02:57:28,640
content against me, you know, and now
 

9113
02:57:28,640 --> 02:57:29,830
content against me, you know, and now
it's, well, I'm going to give you a

9114
02:57:29,830 --> 02:57:29,840
it's, well, I'm going to give you a
 

9115
02:57:29,840 --> 02:57:31,830
it's, well, I'm going to give you a
chance. And it's like, okay, you don't

9116
02:57:31,830 --> 02:57:31,840
chance. And it's like, okay, you don't
 

9117
02:57:31,840 --> 02:57:34,150
chance. And it's like, okay, you don't
care about me. You don't care about my

9118
02:57:34,150 --> 02:57:34,160
care about me. You don't care about my
 

9119
02:57:34,160 --> 02:57:37,269
care about me. You don't care about my
story. You care that Saver Spark is a

9120
02:57:37,269 --> 02:57:37,279
story. You care that Saver Spark is a
 

9121
02:57:37,279 --> 02:57:41,590
story. You care that Saver Spark is a
big person. And you know that's I'm part

9122
02:57:41,590 --> 02:57:41,600
big person. And you know that's I'm part
 

9123
02:57:41,600 --> 02:57:45,469
big person. And you know that's I'm part
of this you know and um obviously there

9124
02:57:45,469 --> 02:57:45,479
of this you know and um obviously there
 

9125
02:57:45,479 --> 02:57:48,070
of this you know and um obviously there
are some people who are going to care

9126
02:57:48,070 --> 02:57:48,080
are some people who are going to care
 

9127
02:57:48,080 --> 02:57:49,269
are some people who are going to care
and they're going to want to look into

9128
02:57:49,269 --> 02:57:49,279
and they're going to want to look into
 

9129
02:57:49,279 --> 02:57:51,110
and they're going to want to look into
it. I'm very thankful that there are

9130
02:57:51,110 --> 02:57:51,120
it. I'm very thankful that there are
 

9131
02:57:51,120 --> 02:57:53,750
it. I'm very thankful that there are
people amongst this circle who have been

9132
02:57:53,750 --> 02:57:53,760
people amongst this circle who have been
 

9133
02:57:53,760 --> 02:57:56,469
people amongst this circle who have been
very helpful. Um but not everyone is

9134
02:57:56,469 --> 02:57:56,479
very helpful. Um but not everyone is
 

9135
02:57:56,479 --> 02:57:59,030
very helpful. Um but not everyone is
going to be like that. You know it's

9136
02:57:59,030 --> 02:57:59,040
going to be like that. You know it's
 

9137
02:57:59,040 --> 02:58:02,630
going to be like that. You know it's
it's scary. It's It's really scary. And

9138
02:58:02,630 --> 02:58:02,640
it's scary. It's It's really scary. And
 

9139
02:58:02,640 --> 02:58:04,910
it's scary. It's It's really scary. And
um I

9140
02:58:04,910 --> 02:58:04,920
um I
 

9141
02:58:04,920 --> 02:58:07,670
um I
definitely feel that it has discouraged

9142
02:58:07,670 --> 02:58:07,680
definitely feel that it has discouraged
 

9143
02:58:07,680 --> 02:58:09,950
definitely feel that it has discouraged
me from wanting to ever speak up ever

9144
02:58:09,950 --> 02:58:09,960
me from wanting to ever speak up ever
 

9145
02:58:09,960 --> 02:58:12,389
me from wanting to ever speak up ever
again if I'm being honest. Like I've

9146
02:58:12,389 --> 02:58:12,399
again if I'm being honest. Like I've
 

9147
02:58:12,399 --> 02:58:13,910
again if I'm being honest. Like I've
said that out loud a few times this

9148
02:58:13,910 --> 02:58:13,920
said that out loud a few times this
 

9149
02:58:13,920 --> 02:58:15,269
said that out loud a few times this
week. Like I'm never going to come out

9150
02:58:15,269 --> 02:58:15,279
week. Like I'm never going to come out
 

9151
02:58:15,279 --> 02:58:18,910
week. Like I'm never going to come out
about this other stuff. Oh my god. Ever.

9152
02:58:18,910 --> 02:58:18,920
about this other stuff. Oh my god. Ever.
 

9153
02:58:18,920 --> 02:58:21,830
about this other stuff. Oh my god. Ever.
Um but you know, maybe that's the right

9154
02:58:21,830 --> 02:58:21,840
Um but you know, maybe that's the right
 

9155
02:58:21,840 --> 02:58:24,870
Um but you know, maybe that's the right
move. Maybe that's not what I need to

9156
02:58:24,870 --> 02:58:24,880
move. Maybe that's not what I need to
 

9157
02:58:24,880 --> 02:58:28,230
move. Maybe that's not what I need to
heal. Maybe I it doesn't need to be

9158
02:58:28,230 --> 02:58:28,240
heal. Maybe I it doesn't need to be
 

9159
02:58:28,240 --> 02:58:31,030
heal. Maybe I it doesn't need to be
handled through the these other people.

9160
02:58:31,030 --> 02:58:31,040
handled through the these other people.
 

9161
02:58:31,040 --> 02:58:34,070
handled through the these other people.
Maybe I just I I have a lot of personal

9162
02:58:34,070 --> 02:58:34,080
Maybe I just I I have a lot of personal
 

9163
02:58:34,080 --> 02:58:36,230
Maybe I just I I have a lot of personal
stuff that I need to work through to do

9164
02:58:36,230 --> 02:58:36,240
stuff that I need to work through to do
 

9165
02:58:36,240 --> 02:58:37,750
stuff that I need to work through to do
that. I don't know what that looks like

9166
02:58:37,750 --> 02:58:37,760
that. I don't know what that looks like
 

9167
02:58:37,760 --> 02:58:38,590
that. I don't know what that looks like
right

9168
02:58:38,590 --> 02:58:38,600
right
 

9169
02:58:38,600 --> 02:58:40,870
right
now, but I know that's what I have to

9170
02:58:40,870 --> 02:58:40,880
now, but I know that's what I have to
 

9171
02:58:40,880 --> 02:58:43,429
now, but I know that's what I have to
do. That's that's wonderful. And you

9172
02:58:43,429 --> 02:58:43,439
do. That's that's wonderful. And you
 

9173
02:58:43,439 --> 02:58:47,269
do. That's that's wonderful. And you
know, I think because of how poorly like

9174
02:58:47,269 --> 02:58:47,279
know, I think because of how poorly like
 

9175
02:58:47,279 --> 02:58:48,950
know, I think because of how poorly like
I don't know how much you know about

9176
02:58:48,950 --> 02:58:48,960
I don't know how much you know about
 

9177
02:58:48,960 --> 02:58:50,550
I don't know how much you know about
like in terms of like these kind of

9178
02:58:50,550 --> 02:58:50,560
like in terms of like these kind of
 

9179
02:58:50,560 --> 02:58:52,630
like in terms of like these kind of
situations being reported to the police,

9180
02:58:52,630 --> 02:58:52,640
situations being reported to the police,
 

9181
02:58:52,640 --> 02:58:54,150
situations being reported to the police,
but they suck. I'm just going to be

9182
02:58:54,150 --> 02:58:54,160
but they suck. I'm just going to be
 

9183
02:58:54,160 --> 02:58:56,550
but they suck. I'm just going to be
blunt. They don't take it seriously and

9184
02:58:56,550 --> 02:58:56,560
blunt. They don't take it seriously and
 

9185
02:58:56,560 --> 02:58:58,469
blunt. They don't take it seriously and
and you know there's like a whole

9186
02:58:58,469 --> 02:58:58,479
and you know there's like a whole
 

9187
02:58:58,479 --> 02:59:00,710
and you know there's like a whole
backlog even of rape kits that are just

9188
02:59:00,710 --> 02:59:00,720
backlog even of rape kits that are just
 

9189
02:59:00,720 --> 02:59:03,670
backlog even of rape kits that are just
sitting in dust in boxes for years never

9190
02:59:03,670 --> 02:59:03,680
sitting in dust in boxes for years never
 

9191
02:59:03,680 --> 02:59:05,429
sitting in dust in boxes for years never
getting tested. It's called the uh the

9192
02:59:05,429 --> 02:59:05,439
getting tested. It's called the uh the
 

9193
02:59:05,439 --> 02:59:08,630
getting tested. It's called the uh the
rape kit black the rape kit backlog. It

9194
02:59:08,630 --> 02:59:08,640
rape kit black the rape kit backlog. It
 

9195
02:59:08,640 --> 02:59:11,110
rape kit black the rape kit backlog. It
is just thousands. I'm talking they

9196
02:59:11,110 --> 02:59:11,120
is just thousands. I'm talking they
 

9197
02:59:11,120 --> 02:59:14,070
is just thousands. I'm talking they
don't ever touch it ever. Um hell even

9198
02:59:14,070 --> 02:59:14,080
don't ever touch it ever. Um hell even
 

9199
02:59:14,080 --> 02:59:16,030
don't ever touch it ever. Um hell even
like sometimes

9200
02:59:16,030 --> 02:59:16,040
like sometimes
 

9201
02:59:16,040 --> 02:59:18,469
like sometimes
like even when you get into a court

9202
02:59:18,469 --> 02:59:18,479
like even when you get into a court
 

9203
02:59:18,479 --> 02:59:19,830
like even when you get into a court
setting and they're just like how many

9204
02:59:19,830 --> 02:59:19,840
setting and they're just like how many
 

9205
02:59:19,840 --> 02:59:21,269
setting and they're just like how many
years are we going to put this guy away

9206
02:59:21,269 --> 02:59:21,279
years are we going to put this guy away
 

9207
02:59:21,279 --> 02:59:23,110
years are we going to put this guy away
a convicted guy for rape? And it just

9208
02:59:23,110 --> 02:59:23,120
a convicted guy for rape? And it just
 

9209
02:59:23,120 --> 02:59:24,870
a convicted guy for rape? And it just
never happens. It's like either a slap

9210
02:59:24,870 --> 02:59:24,880
never happens. It's like either a slap
 

9211
02:59:24,880 --> 02:59:26,389
never happens. It's like either a slap
on the wrist or just a couple years.

9212
02:59:26,389 --> 02:59:26,399
on the wrist or just a couple years.
 

9213
02:59:26,399 --> 02:59:29,349
on the wrist or just a couple years.
Hell, people like get put in jail for

9214
02:59:29,349 --> 02:59:29,359
Hell, people like get put in jail for
 

9215
02:59:29,359 --> 02:59:31,349
Hell, people like get put in jail for
other crimes like even like possession

9216
02:59:31,349 --> 02:59:31,359
other crimes like even like possession
 

9217
02:59:31,359 --> 02:59:34,550
other crimes like even like possession
of drugs for much longer than rape does.

9218
02:59:34,550 --> 02:59:34,560
of drugs for much longer than rape does.
 

9219
02:59:34,560 --> 02:59:36,790
of drugs for much longer than rape does.
And it's like clearly our legal system

9220
02:59:36,790 --> 02:59:36,800
And it's like clearly our legal system
 

9221
02:59:36,800 --> 02:59:38,389
And it's like clearly our legal system
does not think that rape is that big of

9222
02:59:38,389 --> 02:59:38,399
does not think that rape is that big of
 

9223
02:59:38,399 --> 02:59:40,469
does not think that rape is that big of
a deal. So it's like what the [\h__\h] do

9224
02:59:40,469 --> 02:59:40,479
a deal. So it's like what the [\h__\h] do
 

9225
02:59:40,479 --> 02:59:43,030
a deal. So it's like what the [\h__\h] do
you do? And of course you see all this

9226
02:59:43,030 --> 02:59:43,040
you do? And of course you see all this
 

9227
02:59:43,040 --> 02:59:45,269
you do? And of course you see all this
content about predator exposees, right?

9228
02:59:45,269 --> 02:59:45,279
content about predator exposees, right?
 

9229
02:59:45,279 --> 02:59:47,590
content about predator exposees, right?
And like that's become like a whole

9230
02:59:47,590 --> 02:59:47,600
And like that's become like a whole
 

9231
02:59:47,600 --> 02:59:49,429
And like that's become like a whole
genre that's like almost entertainment

9232
02:59:49,429 --> 02:59:49,439
genre that's like almost entertainment
 

9233
02:59:49,439 --> 02:59:52,230
genre that's like almost entertainment
at this point. And I'm not unaware or

9234
02:59:52,230 --> 02:59:52,240
at this point. And I'm not unaware or
 

9235
02:59:52,240 --> 02:59:54,150
at this point. And I'm not unaware or
like I'm complicit in that maybe a

9236
02:59:54,150 --> 02:59:54,160
like I'm complicit in that maybe a
 

9237
02:59:54,160 --> 02:59:55,750
like I'm complicit in that maybe a
little bit, but I at least try to like

9238
02:59:55,750 --> 02:59:55,760
little bit, but I at least try to like
 

9239
02:59:55,760 --> 02:59:57,750
little bit, but I at least try to like
use that content style to like at least

9240
02:59:57,750 --> 02:59:57,760
use that content style to like at least
 

9241
02:59:57,760 --> 02:59:59,190
use that content style to like at least
raise funds for a charity or something

9242
02:59:59,190 --> 02:59:59,200
raise funds for a charity or something
 

9243
02:59:59,200 --> 03:00:01,670
raise funds for a charity or something
like that because YouTubers are [\h__\h]

9244
03:00:01,670 --> 03:00:01,680
like that because YouTubers are [\h__\h]
 

9245
03:00:01,680 --> 03:00:04,469
like that because YouTubers are [\h__\h]
useless in this realm, too. Like you see

9246
03:00:04,469 --> 03:00:04,479
useless in this realm, too. Like you see
 

9247
03:00:04,479 --> 03:00:06,070
useless in this realm, too. Like you see
examples of YouTubers being like, I'm a

9248
03:00:06,070 --> 03:00:06,080
examples of YouTubers being like, I'm a
 

9249
03:00:06,080 --> 03:00:07,990
examples of YouTubers being like, I'm a
predator hunter. And it's like either

9250
03:00:07,990 --> 03:00:08,000
predator hunter. And it's like either
 

9251
03:00:08,000 --> 03:00:10,469
predator hunter. And it's like either
their stings are fake or they don't care

9252
03:00:10,469 --> 03:00:10,479
their stings are fake or they don't care
 

9253
03:00:10,479 --> 03:00:12,630
their stings are fake or they don't care
about victims or they only care about

9254
03:00:12,630 --> 03:00:12,640
about victims or they only care about
 

9255
03:00:12,640 --> 03:00:14,630
about victims or they only care about
the view count or whatever it may be.

9256
03:00:14,630 --> 03:00:14,640
the view count or whatever it may be.
 

9257
03:00:14,640 --> 03:00:16,389
the view count or whatever it may be.
Like you're given two options. You're

9258
03:00:16,389 --> 03:00:16,399
Like you're given two options. You're
 

9259
03:00:16,399 --> 03:00:18,070
Like you're given two options. You're
given go to the police and have them not

9260
03:00:18,070 --> 03:00:18,080
given go to the police and have them not
 

9261
03:00:18,080 --> 03:00:19,750
given go to the police and have them not
take you seriously or go to YouTubers

9262
03:00:19,750 --> 03:00:19,760
take you seriously or go to YouTubers
 

9263
03:00:19,760 --> 03:00:21,269
take you seriously or go to YouTubers
and have them profit and make money off

9264
03:00:21,269 --> 03:00:21,279
and have them profit and make money off
 

9265
03:00:21,279 --> 03:00:24,710
and have them profit and make money off
of you. It sucks. It [\h__\h] sucks. Like

9266
03:00:24,710 --> 03:00:24,720
of you. It sucks. It [\h__\h] sucks. Like
 

9267
03:00:24,720 --> 03:00:26,550
of you. It sucks. It [\h__\h] sucks. Like
what are you supposed to do? Yeah. What

9268
03:00:26,550 --> 03:00:26,560
what are you supposed to do? Yeah. What
 

9269
03:00:26,560 --> 03:00:28,750
what are you supposed to do? Yeah. What
are you supposed to not very good

9270
03:00:28,750 --> 03:00:28,760
are you supposed to not very good
 

9271
03:00:28,760 --> 03:00:32,389
are you supposed to not very good
options, you know? And so it's just

9272
03:00:32,389 --> 03:00:32,399
options, you know? And so it's just
 

9273
03:00:32,399 --> 03:00:34,309
options, you know? And so it's just
definitely through this, you know, the

9274
03:00:34,309 --> 03:00:34,319
definitely through this, you know, the
 

9275
03:00:34,319 --> 03:00:37,429
definitely through this, you know, the
answer is neither. you know, it it has

9276
03:00:37,429 --> 03:00:37,439
answer is neither. you know, it it has
 

9277
03:00:37,439 --> 03:00:39,990
answer is neither. you know, it it has
to be we need to go to our loved ones

9278
03:00:39,990 --> 03:00:40,000
to be we need to go to our loved ones
 

9279
03:00:40,000 --> 03:00:41,990
to be we need to go to our loved ones
and we need to open up to these people

9280
03:00:41,990 --> 03:00:42,000
and we need to open up to these people
 

9281
03:00:42,000 --> 03:00:44,710
and we need to open up to these people
who we genuinely trust and we need to do

9282
03:00:44,710 --> 03:00:44,720
who we genuinely trust and we need to do
 

9283
03:00:44,720 --> 03:00:47,110
who we genuinely trust and we need to do
the work in therapy. That's like it's

9284
03:00:47,110 --> 03:00:47,120
the work in therapy. That's like it's
 

9285
03:00:47,120 --> 03:00:50,550
the work in therapy. That's like it's
not easy, but like that's I mean that's

9286
03:00:50,550 --> 03:00:50,560
not easy, but like that's I mean that's
 

9287
03:00:50,560 --> 03:00:54,070
not easy, but like that's I mean that's
what I want to do is I I need to do more

9288
03:00:54,070 --> 03:00:54,080
what I want to do is I I need to do more
 

9289
03:00:54,080 --> 03:00:55,750
what I want to do is I I need to do more
of this work now in therapy, you know,

9290
03:00:55,750 --> 03:00:55,760
of this work now in therapy, you know,
 

9291
03:00:55,760 --> 03:00:58,150
of this work now in therapy, you know,
because I think that's going to be the

9292
03:00:58,150 --> 03:00:58,160
because I think that's going to be the
 

9293
03:00:58,160 --> 03:00:59,910
because I think that's going to be the
right move. These guys are literally

9294
03:00:59,910 --> 03:00:59,920
right move. These guys are literally
 

9295
03:00:59,920 --> 03:01:01,110
right move. These guys are literally
well equipped to handle these

9296
03:01:01,110 --> 03:01:01,120
well equipped to handle these
 

9297
03:01:01,120 --> 03:01:02,950
well equipped to handle these
situations, particularly people who

9298
03:01:02,950 --> 03:01:02,960
situations, particularly people who
 

9299
03:01:02,960 --> 03:01:05,830
situations, particularly people who
specialize in that, you know. Mhm. Are

9300
03:01:05,830 --> 03:01:05,840
specialize in that, you know. Mhm. Are
 

9301
03:01:05,840 --> 03:01:07,670
specialize in that, you know. Mhm. Are
you seeking like any sort of therapeutic

9302
03:01:07,670 --> 03:01:07,680
you seeking like any sort of therapeutic
 

9303
03:01:07,680 --> 03:01:10,070
you seeking like any sort of therapeutic
intervention like in not in relationship

9304
03:01:10,070 --> 03:01:10,080
intervention like in not in relationship
 

9305
03:01:10,080 --> 03:01:11,750
intervention like in not in relationship
to this, but have you been in therapy

9306
03:01:11,750 --> 03:01:11,760
to this, but have you been in therapy
 

9307
03:01:11,760 --> 03:01:13,830
to this, but have you been in therapy
before?

9308
03:01:13,830 --> 03:01:13,840
before?
 

9309
03:01:13,840 --> 03:01:16,550
before?
I have. Yes, I've I've been in therapy

9310
03:01:16,550 --> 03:01:16,560
I have. Yes, I've I've been in therapy
 

9311
03:01:16,560 --> 03:01:18,469
I have. Yes, I've I've been in therapy
on and off because I, you know, I've

9312
03:01:18,469 --> 03:01:18,479
on and off because I, you know, I've
 

9313
03:01:18,479 --> 03:01:20,550
on and off because I, you know, I've
moved around or maybe I've had like a

9314
03:01:20,550 --> 03:01:20,560
moved around or maybe I've had like a
 

9315
03:01:20,560 --> 03:01:22,790
moved around or maybe I've had like a
therapist who, you know, not a good fit,

9316
03:01:22,790 --> 03:01:22,800
therapist who, you know, not a good fit,
 

9317
03:01:22,800 --> 03:01:25,349
therapist who, you know, not a good fit,
but I've had therapy and, you know, it's

9318
03:01:25,349 --> 03:01:25,359
but I've had therapy and, you know, it's
 

9319
03:01:25,359 --> 03:01:28,469
but I've had therapy and, you know, it's
helpful for a lot of things. But I also

9320
03:01:28,469 --> 03:01:28,479
helpful for a lot of things. But I also
 

9321
03:01:28,479 --> 03:01:30,469
helpful for a lot of things. But I also
will be completely transparent and say

9322
03:01:30,469 --> 03:01:30,479
will be completely transparent and say
 

9323
03:01:30,479 --> 03:01:32,630
will be completely transparent and say
that I have not been able to handle

9324
03:01:32,630 --> 03:01:32,640
that I have not been able to handle
 

9325
03:01:32,640 --> 03:01:35,269
that I have not been able to handle
getting therapy for my sexual related

9326
03:01:35,269 --> 03:01:35,279
getting therapy for my sexual related
 

9327
03:01:35,279 --> 03:01:39,190
getting therapy for my sexual related
trauma. It's hard for me. I lock up.

9328
03:01:39,190 --> 03:01:39,200
trauma. It's hard for me. I lock up.
 

9329
03:01:39,200 --> 03:01:41,830
trauma. It's hard for me. I lock up.
Like I will sit there all day and I

9330
03:01:41,830 --> 03:01:41,840
Like I will sit there all day and I
 

9331
03:01:41,840 --> 03:01:43,190
Like I will sit there all day and I
will, oh yeah, you know, it was

9332
03:01:43,190 --> 03:01:43,200
will, oh yeah, you know, it was
 

9333
03:01:43,200 --> 03:01:46,070
will, oh yeah, you know, it was
traumatic with, you know, giving birth.

9334
03:01:46,070 --> 03:01:46,080
traumatic with, you know, giving birth.
 

9335
03:01:46,080 --> 03:01:48,309
traumatic with, you know, giving birth.
It was traumatic or this other thing and

9336
03:01:48,309 --> 03:01:48,319
It was traumatic or this other thing and
 

9337
03:01:48,319 --> 03:01:50,150
It was traumatic or this other thing and
you know, but the minute they're like,

9338
03:01:50,150 --> 03:01:50,160
you know, but the minute they're like,
 

9339
03:01:50,160 --> 03:01:53,590
you know, but the minute they're like,
"Okay, so let's talk about this stuff."

9340
03:01:53,590 --> 03:01:53,600
"Okay, so let's talk about this stuff."
 

9341
03:01:53,600 --> 03:01:55,750
"Okay, so let's talk about this stuff."
I don't know how to I stop talking and

9342
03:01:55,750 --> 03:01:55,760
I don't know how to I stop talking and
 

9343
03:01:55,760 --> 03:01:57,870
I don't know how to I stop talking and
I'm like

9344
03:01:57,870 --> 03:01:57,880
I'm like
 

9345
03:01:57,880 --> 03:02:02,230
I'm like
uh well and I I I can't it's hard. I

9346
03:02:02,230 --> 03:02:02,240
uh well and I I I can't it's hard. I
 

9347
03:02:02,240 --> 03:02:04,070
uh well and I I I can't it's hard. I
don't know how to get I it's I don't

9348
03:02:04,070 --> 03:02:04,080
don't know how to get I it's I don't
 

9349
03:02:04,080 --> 03:02:06,790
don't know how to get I it's I don't
know what's going on there. I it's I

9350
03:02:06,790 --> 03:02:06,800
know what's going on there. I it's I
 

9351
03:02:06,800 --> 03:02:09,990
know what's going on there. I it's I
haven't been able to move past that. And

9352
03:02:09,990 --> 03:02:10,000
haven't been able to move past that. And
 

9353
03:02:10,000 --> 03:02:12,870
haven't been able to move past that. And
um I didn't realize just how much it had

9354
03:02:12,870 --> 03:02:12,880
um I didn't realize just how much it had
 

9355
03:02:12,880 --> 03:02:14,469
um I didn't realize just how much it had
affected me because I was trying to

9356
03:02:14,469 --> 03:02:14,479
affected me because I was trying to
 

9357
03:02:14,479 --> 03:02:17,670
affected me because I was trying to
ignore it for so long. Mhm. Um, but yes,

9358
03:02:17,670 --> 03:02:17,680
ignore it for so long. Mhm. Um, but yes,
 

9359
03:02:17,680 --> 03:02:20,070
ignore it for so long. Mhm. Um, but yes,
I've gotten therapy for other things and

9360
03:02:20,070 --> 03:02:20,080
I've gotten therapy for other things and
 

9361
03:02:20,080 --> 03:02:22,870
I've gotten therapy for other things and
it's it is helpful, but I don't know how

9362
03:02:22,870 --> 03:02:22,880
it's it is helpful, but I don't know how
 

9363
03:02:22,880 --> 03:02:26,230
it's it is helpful, but I don't know how
to speak on how helpful it will be in

9364
03:02:26,230 --> 03:02:26,240
to speak on how helpful it will be in
 

9365
03:02:26,240 --> 03:02:27,790
to speak on how helpful it will be in
terms of the sexual

9366
03:02:27,790 --> 03:02:27,800
terms of the sexual
 

9367
03:02:27,800 --> 03:02:30,469
terms of the sexual
trauma, I'm going to find out though

9368
03:02:30,469 --> 03:02:30,479
trauma, I'm going to find out though
 

9369
03:02:30,479 --> 03:02:32,950
trauma, I'm going to find out though
very soon. Yeah. Well, I I could I get

9370
03:02:32,950 --> 03:02:32,960
very soon. Yeah. Well, I I could I get
 

9371
03:02:32,960 --> 03:02:35,190
very soon. Yeah. Well, I I could I get
that. Like if your response to all this

9372
03:02:35,190 --> 03:02:35,200
that. Like if your response to all this
 

9373
03:02:35,200 --> 03:02:36,950
that. Like if your response to all this
has always been to just kind of freeze

9374
03:02:36,950 --> 03:02:36,960
has always been to just kind of freeze
 

9375
03:02:36,960 --> 03:02:39,190
has always been to just kind of freeze
and just like kind of clam up and never

9376
03:02:39,190 --> 03:02:39,200
and just like kind of clam up and never
 

9377
03:02:39,200 --> 03:02:41,429
and just like kind of clam up and never
talk about it, going to a therapist to

9378
03:02:41,429 --> 03:02:41,439
talk about it, going to a therapist to
 

9379
03:02:41,439 --> 03:02:43,030
talk about it, going to a therapist to
try to talk about your sexual trauma

9380
03:02:43,030 --> 03:02:43,040
try to talk about your sexual trauma
 

9381
03:02:43,040 --> 03:02:45,030
try to talk about your sexual trauma
that the response always been you just

9382
03:02:45,030 --> 03:02:45,040
that the response always been you just
 

9383
03:02:45,040 --> 03:02:46,950
that the response always been you just
not talking about it seems rather

9384
03:02:46,950 --> 03:02:46,960
not talking about it seems rather
 

9385
03:02:46,960 --> 03:02:49,030
not talking about it seems rather
useless, right? You're just like I'm not

9386
03:02:49,030 --> 03:02:49,040
useless, right? You're just like I'm not
 

9387
03:02:49,040 --> 03:02:50,309
useless, right? You're just like I'm not
going to be able to say anything

9388
03:02:50,309 --> 03:02:50,319
going to be able to say anything
 

9389
03:02:50,319 --> 03:02:52,790
going to be able to say anything
anyways. So what's the point? And I

9390
03:02:52,790 --> 03:02:52,800
anyways. So what's the point? And I
 

9391
03:02:52,800 --> 03:02:55,510
anyways. So what's the point? And I
think the point is is that like

9392
03:02:55,510 --> 03:02:55,520
think the point is is that like
 

9393
03:02:55,520 --> 03:02:57,510
think the point is is that like
Yeah. But I think the point for you at

9394
03:02:57,510 --> 03:02:57,520
Yeah. But I think the point for you at
 

9395
03:02:57,520 --> 03:03:00,950
Yeah. But I think the point for you at
least is like let's and I'm sorry if

9396
03:03:00,950 --> 03:03:00,960
least is like let's and I'm sorry if
 

9397
03:03:00,960 --> 03:03:03,750
least is like let's and I'm sorry if
this sounds blunt, right? This thing

9398
03:03:03,750 --> 03:03:03,760
this sounds blunt, right? This thing
 

9399
03:03:03,760 --> 03:03:05,670
this sounds blunt, right? This thing
with Saber Spark happened over 10 years

9400
03:03:05,670 --> 03:03:05,680
with Saber Spark happened over 10 years
 

9401
03:03:05,680 --> 03:03:07,510
with Saber Spark happened over 10 years
ago. And it's not me saying I don't

9402
03:03:07,510 --> 03:03:07,520
ago. And it's not me saying I don't
 

9403
03:03:07,520 --> 03:03:09,030
ago. And it's not me saying I don't
believe you. It's more so like it's

9404
03:03:09,030 --> 03:03:09,040
believe you. It's more so like it's
 

9405
03:03:09,040 --> 03:03:11,030
believe you. It's more so like it's
going to be very hard to prove beyond a

9406
03:03:11,030 --> 03:03:11,040
going to be very hard to prove beyond a
 

9407
03:03:11,040 --> 03:03:12,630
going to be very hard to prove beyond a
shadow of a doubt it happened 10 years

9408
03:03:12,630 --> 03:03:12,640
shadow of a doubt it happened 10 years
 

9409
03:03:12,640 --> 03:03:14,309
shadow of a doubt it happened 10 years
later when it was only you and him in a

9410
03:03:14,309 --> 03:03:14,319
later when it was only you and him in a
 

9411
03:03:14,319 --> 03:03:17,269
later when it was only you and him in a
room. Right now I have a timeline. Yeah.

9412
03:03:17,269 --> 03:03:17,279
room. Right now I have a timeline. Yeah.
 

9413
03:03:17,279 --> 03:03:19,670
room. Right now I have a timeline. Yeah.
That I think is pretty airtight.

9414
03:03:19,670 --> 03:03:19,680
That I think is pretty airtight.
 

9415
03:03:19,680 --> 03:03:22,910
That I think is pretty airtight.
Um, I think I've looked through enough

9416
03:03:22,910 --> 03:03:22,920
Um, I think I've looked through enough
 

9417
03:03:22,920 --> 03:03:26,269
Um, I think I've looked through enough
720p 20p footage to say so,

9418
03:03:26,269 --> 03:03:26,279
720p 20p footage to say so,
 

9419
03:03:26,279 --> 03:03:28,550
720p 20p footage to say so,
but it's not going to be convincing to

9420
03:03:28,550 --> 03:03:28,560
but it's not going to be convincing to
 

9421
03:03:28,560 --> 03:03:29,990
but it's not going to be convincing to
everybody because everybody on the

9422
03:03:29,990 --> 03:03:30,000
everybody because everybody on the
 

9423
03:03:30,000 --> 03:03:32,070
everybody because everybody on the
internet takes these allegations with in

9424
03:03:32,070 --> 03:03:32,080
internet takes these allegations with in
 

9425
03:03:32,080 --> 03:03:33,510
internet takes these allegations with in
a courtroom setting. It's like

9426
03:03:33,510 --> 03:03:33,520
a courtroom setting. It's like
 

9427
03:03:33,520 --> 03:03:35,269
a courtroom setting. It's like
circumstantial evidence is great, but

9428
03:03:35,269 --> 03:03:35,279
circumstantial evidence is great, but
 

9429
03:03:35,279 --> 03:03:37,269
circumstantial evidence is great, but
they need something hard proof, right?

9430
03:03:37,269 --> 03:03:37,279
they need something hard proof, right?
 

9431
03:03:37,279 --> 03:03:39,510
they need something hard proof, right?
And when it's a it's a situation between

9432
03:03:39,510 --> 03:03:39,520
And when it's a it's a situation between
 

9433
03:03:39,520 --> 03:03:42,469
And when it's a it's a situation between
two people in private where the outcome

9434
03:03:42,469 --> 03:03:42,479
two people in private where the outcome
 

9435
03:03:42,479 --> 03:03:44,230
two people in private where the outcome
of that private interaction is, I didn't

9436
03:03:44,230 --> 03:03:44,240
of that private interaction is, I didn't
 

9437
03:03:44,240 --> 03:03:46,230
of that private interaction is, I didn't
feel good about that afterwards, like I

9438
03:03:46,230 --> 03:03:46,240
feel good about that afterwards, like I
 

9439
03:03:46,240 --> 03:03:47,990
feel good about that afterwards, like I
felt like I was taken advantage of.

9440
03:03:47,990 --> 03:03:48,000
felt like I was taken advantage of.
 

9441
03:03:48,000 --> 03:03:51,030
felt like I was taken advantage of.
That's very hard to prove to anybody,

9442
03:03:51,030 --> 03:03:51,040
That's very hard to prove to anybody,
 

9443
03:03:51,040 --> 03:03:52,630
That's very hard to prove to anybody,
not even like to the internet, just like

9444
03:03:52,630 --> 03:03:52,640
not even like to the internet, just like
 

9445
03:03:52,640 --> 03:03:56,150
not even like to the internet, just like
in court maybe. However, with that being

9446
03:03:56,150 --> 03:03:56,160
in court maybe. However, with that being
 

9447
03:03:56,160 --> 03:03:58,389
in court maybe. However, with that being
said, I don't think we need like a

9448
03:03:58,389 --> 03:03:58,399
said, I don't think we need like a
 

9449
03:03:58,399 --> 03:04:00,550
said, I don't think we need like a
public trial or court for you to get

9450
03:04:00,550 --> 03:04:00,560
public trial or court for you to get
 

9451
03:04:00,560 --> 03:04:02,230
public trial or court for you to get
healing or for you to feel better. I

9452
03:04:02,230 --> 03:04:02,240
healing or for you to feel better. I
 

9453
03:04:02,240 --> 03:04:05,429
healing or for you to feel better. I
think what you need is to like what

9454
03:04:05,429 --> 03:04:05,439
think what you need is to like what
 

9455
03:04:05,439 --> 03:04:07,830
think what you need is to like what
you're doing now, recognizing that, hey,

9456
03:04:07,830 --> 03:04:07,840
you're doing now, recognizing that, hey,
 

9457
03:04:07,840 --> 03:04:09,750
you're doing now, recognizing that, hey,
when I talk about this stuff, even

9458
03:04:09,750 --> 03:04:09,760
when I talk about this stuff, even
 

9459
03:04:09,760 --> 03:04:11,510
when I talk about this stuff, even
though I acknowledge it's traumatic, I

9460
03:04:11,510 --> 03:04:11,520
though I acknowledge it's traumatic, I
 

9461
03:04:11,520 --> 03:04:14,230
though I acknowledge it's traumatic, I
can't actually like work through it. And

9462
03:04:14,230 --> 03:04:14,240
can't actually like work through it. And
 

9463
03:04:14,240 --> 03:04:17,110
can't actually like work through it. And
that's I'm sorry, that sucks. Like that

9464
03:04:17,110 --> 03:04:17,120
that's I'm sorry, that sucks. Like that
 

9465
03:04:17,120 --> 03:04:19,830
that's I'm sorry, that sucks. Like that
really sucks. Like I I couldn't imagine

9466
03:04:19,830 --> 03:04:19,840
really sucks. Like I I couldn't imagine
 

9467
03:04:19,840 --> 03:04:21,110
really sucks. Like I I couldn't imagine
it if like I went through so like

9468
03:04:21,110 --> 03:04:21,120
it if like I went through so like
 

9469
03:04:21,120 --> 03:04:22,790
it if like I went through so like
usually when I talk about traumatic

9470
03:04:22,790 --> 03:04:22,800
usually when I talk about traumatic
 

9471
03:04:22,800 --> 03:04:24,550
usually when I talk about traumatic
stuff, I have a kind of an easy time

9472
03:04:24,550 --> 03:04:24,560
stuff, I have a kind of an easy time
 

9473
03:04:24,560 --> 03:04:27,110
stuff, I have a kind of an easy time
doing it, but I don't feel good about it

9474
03:04:27,110 --> 03:04:27,120
doing it, but I don't feel good about it
 

9475
03:04:27,120 --> 03:04:28,790
doing it, but I don't feel good about it
afterwards. My problem is I'll open up

9476
03:04:28,790 --> 03:04:28,800
afterwards. My problem is I'll open up
 

9477
03:04:28,800 --> 03:04:30,150
afterwards. My problem is I'll open up
about it, but then I'm like, "Oh man,

9478
03:04:30,150 --> 03:04:30,160
about it, but then I'm like, "Oh man,
 

9479
03:04:30,160 --> 03:04:31,990
about it, but then I'm like, "Oh man,
did I over exaggerate that? Did I am I

9480
03:04:31,990 --> 03:04:32,000
did I over exaggerate that? Did I am I
 

9481
03:04:32,000 --> 03:04:33,670
did I over exaggerate that? Did I am I
overthinking that or whatever?" But for

9482
03:04:33,670 --> 03:04:33,680
overthinking that or whatever?" But for
 

9483
03:04:33,680 --> 03:04:36,469
overthinking that or whatever?" But for
you, you just go, "Nope. Nope. Not going

9484
03:04:36,469 --> 03:04:36,479
you, you just go, "Nope. Nope. Not going
 

9485
03:04:36,479 --> 03:04:38,550
you, you just go, "Nope. Nope. Not going
to talk." Nope. And just ignore it. And

9486
03:04:38,550 --> 03:04:38,560
to talk." Nope. And just ignore it. And
 

9487
03:04:38,560 --> 03:04:41,349
to talk." Nope. And just ignore it. And
I'm like, I couldn't imagine just like

9488
03:04:41,349 --> 03:04:41,359
I'm like, I couldn't imagine just like
 

9489
03:04:41,359 --> 03:04:43,750
I'm like, I couldn't imagine just like
ignoring it for that long cuz eventually

9490
03:04:43,750 --> 03:04:43,760
ignoring it for that long cuz eventually
 

9491
03:04:43,760 --> 03:04:47,590
ignoring it for that long cuz eventually
it's it's going to boil over. You know,

9492
03:04:47,590 --> 03:04:47,600
it's it's going to boil over. You know,
 

9493
03:04:47,600 --> 03:04:49,590
it's it's going to boil over. You know,
it's hard. Like it's like again I'll

9494
03:04:49,590 --> 03:04:49,600
it's hard. Like it's like again I'll
 

9495
03:04:49,600 --> 03:04:52,070
it's hard. Like it's like again I'll
bring it up to like a friend or or to a

9496
03:04:52,070 --> 03:04:52,080
bring it up to like a friend or or to a
 

9497
03:04:52,080 --> 03:04:53,910
bring it up to like a friend or or to a
loved one like yeah, this happened. But

9498
03:04:53,910 --> 03:04:53,920
loved one like yeah, this happened. But
 

9499
03:04:53,920 --> 03:04:56,389
loved one like yeah, this happened. But
then like in terms of the actual like

9500
03:04:56,389 --> 03:04:56,399
then like in terms of the actual like
 

9501
03:04:56,399 --> 03:04:58,070
then like in terms of the actual like
let's go into everything, let's work

9502
03:04:58,070 --> 03:04:58,080
let's go into everything, let's work
 

9503
03:04:58,080 --> 03:05:00,230
let's go into everything, let's work
towards the healing. I can't do it. I

9504
03:05:00,230 --> 03:05:00,240
towards the healing. I can't do it. I
 

9505
03:05:00,240 --> 03:05:04,389
towards the healing. I can't do it. I
just can't. It's it's so difficult.

9506
03:05:04,389 --> 03:05:04,399
just can't. It's it's so difficult.
 

9507
03:05:04,399 --> 03:05:07,349
just can't. It's it's so difficult.
God. Yeah. No, I I understand though how

9508
03:05:07,349 --> 03:05:07,359
God. Yeah. No, I I understand though how
 

9509
03:05:07,359 --> 03:05:09,349
God. Yeah. No, I I understand though how
you feel with your experience too cuz

9510
03:05:09,349 --> 03:05:09,359
you feel with your experience too cuz
 

9511
03:05:09,359 --> 03:05:11,590
you feel with your experience too cuz
like that's how I would be with the

9512
03:05:11,590 --> 03:05:11,600
like that's how I would be with the
 

9513
03:05:11,600 --> 03:05:13,349
like that's how I would be with the
other stuff I've dealt with like the

9514
03:05:13,349 --> 03:05:13,359
other stuff I've dealt with like the
 

9515
03:05:13,359 --> 03:05:16,230
other stuff I've dealt with like the
other situations, but like I'll I'll

9516
03:05:16,230 --> 03:05:16,240
other situations, but like I'll I'll
 

9517
03:05:16,240 --> 03:05:18,070
other situations, but like I'll I'll
again I'll talk about those other things

9518
03:05:18,070 --> 03:05:18,080
again I'll talk about those other things
 

9519
03:05:18,080 --> 03:05:21,510
again I'll talk about those other things
easy but it's just this one thing. It's

9520
03:05:21,510 --> 03:05:21,520
easy but it's just this one thing. It's
 

9521
03:05:21,520 --> 03:05:23,910
easy but it's just this one thing. It's
it's just it's it's hard to tackle. And

9522
03:05:23,910 --> 03:05:23,920
it's just it's it's hard to tackle. And
 

9523
03:05:23,920 --> 03:05:26,630
it's just it's it's hard to tackle. And
you know, I would actually say too that

9524
03:05:26,630 --> 03:05:26,640
you know, I would actually say too that
 

9525
03:05:26,640 --> 03:05:29,429
you know, I would actually say too that
because of the story coming out, that's

9526
03:05:29,429 --> 03:05:29,439
because of the story coming out, that's
 

9527
03:05:29,439 --> 03:05:31,750
because of the story coming out, that's
why everybody there were there were lots

9528
03:05:31,750 --> 03:05:31,760
why everybody there were there were lots
 

9529
03:05:31,760 --> 03:05:33,830
why everybody there were there were lots
of people reaching out to me and wanting

9530
03:05:33,830 --> 03:05:33,840
of people reaching out to me and wanting
 

9531
03:05:33,840 --> 03:05:36,469
of people reaching out to me and wanting
to talk and I was just in freeze mode. I

9532
03:05:36,469 --> 03:05:36,479
to talk and I was just in freeze mode. I
 

9533
03:05:36,479 --> 03:05:38,269
to talk and I was just in freeze mode. I
didn't know how to talk to anybody

9534
03:05:38,269 --> 03:05:38,279
didn't know how to talk to anybody
 

9535
03:05:38,279 --> 03:05:40,790
didn't know how to talk to anybody
because all of these people online are

9536
03:05:40,790 --> 03:05:40,800
because all of these people online are
 

9537
03:05:40,800 --> 03:05:42,630
because all of these people online are
now talking about something so personal

9538
03:05:42,630 --> 03:05:42,640
now talking about something so personal
 

9539
03:05:42,640 --> 03:05:44,190
now talking about something so personal
that happened and so

9540
03:05:44,190 --> 03:05:44,200
that happened and so
 

9541
03:05:44,200 --> 03:05:46,469
that happened and so
vulnerable and I just didn't know how to

9542
03:05:46,469 --> 03:05:46,479
vulnerable and I just didn't know how to
 

9543
03:05:46,479 --> 03:05:49,349
vulnerable and I just didn't know how to
cope. I I I just froze in general.

9544
03:05:49,349 --> 03:05:49,359
cope. I I I just froze in general.
 

9545
03:05:49,359 --> 03:05:51,429
cope. I I I just froze in general.
people were reaching out to me and I

9546
03:05:51,429 --> 03:05:51,439
people were reaching out to me and I
 

9547
03:05:51,439 --> 03:05:53,830
people were reaching out to me and I
friends weren't hearing from me and you

9548
03:05:53,830 --> 03:05:53,840
friends weren't hearing from me and you
 

9549
03:05:53,840 --> 03:05:56,870
friends weren't hearing from me and you
know I just didn't I was struggling to

9550
03:05:56,870 --> 03:05:56,880
know I just didn't I was struggling to
 

9551
03:05:56,880 --> 03:05:58,790
know I just didn't I was struggling to
kind of keep up with everybody and

9552
03:05:58,790 --> 03:05:58,800
kind of keep up with everybody and
 

9553
03:05:58,800 --> 03:06:00,389
kind of keep up with everybody and
everything and all of my stuff was

9554
03:06:00,389 --> 03:06:00,399
everything and all of my stuff was
 

9555
03:06:00,399 --> 03:06:03,910
everything and all of my stuff was
falling behind and you know I I froze

9556
03:06:03,910 --> 03:06:03,920
falling behind and you know I I froze
 

9557
03:06:03,920 --> 03:06:06,070
falling behind and you know I I froze
after the story came out in general and

9558
03:06:06,070 --> 03:06:06,080
after the story came out in general and
 

9559
03:06:06,080 --> 03:06:08,870
after the story came out in general and
I I just this last week or so it's just

9560
03:06:08,870 --> 03:06:08,880
I I just this last week or so it's just
 

9561
03:06:08,880 --> 03:06:12,389
I I just this last week or so it's just
been me stuck completely. you know, I've

9562
03:06:12,389 --> 03:06:12,399
been me stuck completely. you know, I've
 

9563
03:06:12,399 --> 03:06:14,710
been me stuck completely. you know, I've
made some, you know, I've worked through

9564
03:06:14,710 --> 03:06:14,720
made some, you know, I've worked through
 

9565
03:06:14,720 --> 03:06:16,710
made some, you know, I've worked through
it a little bit. Like, you know, I'm

9566
03:06:16,710 --> 03:06:16,720
it a little bit. Like, you know, I'm
 

9567
03:06:16,720 --> 03:06:19,269
it a little bit. Like, you know, I'm
still getting things done, but it's it's

9568
03:06:19,269 --> 03:06:19,279
still getting things done, but it's it's
 

9569
03:06:19,279 --> 03:06:22,870
still getting things done, but it's it's
hard. It's really hard. Yeah. I mean, I

9570
03:06:22,870 --> 03:06:22,880
hard. It's really hard. Yeah. I mean, I
 

9571
03:06:22,880 --> 03:06:24,790
hard. It's really hard. Yeah. I mean, I
don't blame you at all for there. The

9572
03:06:24,790 --> 03:06:24,800
don't blame you at all for there. The
 

9573
03:06:24,800 --> 03:06:26,790
don't blame you at all for there. The
thing with about life that I always find

9574
03:06:26,790 --> 03:06:26,800
thing with about life that I always find
 

9575
03:06:26,800 --> 03:06:29,510
thing with about life that I always find
so interesting, right, is it's like it's

9576
03:06:29,510 --> 03:06:29,520
so interesting, right, is it's like it's
 

9577
03:06:29,520 --> 03:06:31,590
so interesting, right, is it's like it's
this flow of ups and downs where it's

9578
03:06:31,590 --> 03:06:31,600
this flow of ups and downs where it's
 

9579
03:06:31,600 --> 03:06:34,230
this flow of ups and downs where it's
like when you get to these like downs,

9580
03:06:34,230 --> 03:06:34,240
like when you get to these like downs,
 

9581
03:06:34,240 --> 03:06:36,230
like when you get to these like downs,
it's really hard to fight through

9582
03:06:36,230 --> 03:06:36,240
it's really hard to fight through
 

9583
03:06:36,240 --> 03:06:40,070
it's really hard to fight through
things, but the best you can do is is do

9584
03:06:40,070 --> 03:06:40,080
things, but the best you can do is is do
 

9585
03:06:40,080 --> 03:06:43,670
things, but the best you can do is is do
what's best for you based on on h on

9586
03:06:43,670 --> 03:06:43,680
what's best for you based on on h on
 

9587
03:06:43,680 --> 03:06:49,110
what's best for you based on on h on
where you are, you know, and Yeah.

9588
03:06:49,110 --> 03:06:49,120
where you are, you know, and Yeah.
 

9589
03:06:49,120 --> 03:06:52,230
where you are, you know, and Yeah.
Yeah. I I agree. And I think, you know,

9590
03:06:52,230 --> 03:06:52,240
Yeah. I I agree. And I think, you know,
 

9591
03:06:52,240 --> 03:06:54,630
Yeah. I I agree. And I think, you know,
just Sorry. I No, it's okay. Don't

9592
03:06:54,630 --> 03:06:54,640
just Sorry. I No, it's okay. Don't
 

9593
03:06:54,640 --> 03:06:57,349
just Sorry. I No, it's okay. Don't
worry. Yeah, you're fine.

9594
03:06:57,349 --> 03:06:57,359
worry. Yeah, you're fine.
 

9595
03:06:57,359 --> 03:06:59,030
worry. Yeah, you're fine.
Very emotional. So, I'm sorry. I'm kind

9596
03:06:59,030 --> 03:06:59,040
Very emotional. So, I'm sorry. I'm kind
 

9597
03:06:59,040 --> 03:07:01,670
Very emotional. So, I'm sorry. I'm kind
of It's okay.

9598
03:07:01,670 --> 03:07:01,680
of It's okay.
 

9599
03:07:01,680 --> 03:07:03,190
of It's okay.
I can totally see this being like a

9600
03:07:03,190 --> 03:07:03,200
I can totally see this being like a
 

9601
03:07:03,200 --> 03:07:06,150
I can totally see this being like a
teared up moment cuz like, dude, I know.

9602
03:07:06,150 --> 03:07:06,160
teared up moment cuz like, dude, I know.
 

9603
03:07:06,160 --> 03:07:07,590
teared up moment cuz like, dude, I know.
I know. We've been kind of all working

9604
03:07:07,590 --> 03:07:07,600
I know. We've been kind of all working
 

9605
03:07:07,600 --> 03:07:09,349
I know. We've been kind of all working
together, right, on this. And there's

9606
03:07:09,349 --> 03:07:09,359
together, right, on this. And there's
 

9607
03:07:09,359 --> 03:07:10,630
together, right, on this. And there's
points in it where I was really

9608
03:07:10,630 --> 03:07:10,640
points in it where I was really
 

9609
03:07:10,640 --> 03:07:12,070
points in it where I was really
concerned about even the reputation

9610
03:07:12,070 --> 03:07:12,080
concerned about even the reputation
 

9611
03:07:12,080 --> 03:07:13,670
concerned about even the reputation
stuff where maybe I got a little too

9612
03:07:13,670 --> 03:07:13,680
stuff where maybe I got a little too
 

9613
03:07:13,680 --> 03:07:17,269
stuff where maybe I got a little too
over the not angry, just just frustrated

9614
03:07:17,269 --> 03:07:17,279
over the not angry, just just frustrated
 

9615
03:07:17,279 --> 03:07:18,630
over the not angry, just just frustrated
because I just couldn't figure out what

9616
03:07:18,630 --> 03:07:18,640
because I just couldn't figure out what
 

9617
03:07:18,640 --> 03:07:20,950
because I just couldn't figure out what
the [\h__\h] was going on. And I I'm sorry

9618
03:07:20,950 --> 03:07:20,960
the [\h__\h] was going on. And I I'm sorry
 

9619
03:07:20,960 --> 03:07:23,349
the [\h__\h] was going on. And I I'm sorry
if at any point I came across as maybe a

9620
03:07:23,349 --> 03:07:23,359
if at any point I came across as maybe a
 

9621
03:07:23,359 --> 03:07:24,950
if at any point I came across as maybe a
bit threat not threatening, but like

9622
03:07:24,950 --> 03:07:24,960
bit threat not threatening, but like
 

9623
03:07:24,960 --> 03:07:26,790
bit threat not threatening, but like
just a bit more confrontational than I

9624
03:07:26,790 --> 03:07:26,800
just a bit more confrontational than I
 

9625
03:07:26,800 --> 03:07:28,630
just a bit more confrontational than I
normally would be. I think it was just

9626
03:07:28,630 --> 03:07:28,640
normally would be. I think it was just
 

9627
03:07:28,640 --> 03:07:31,030
normally would be. I think it was just
because I I really just was like, I want

9628
03:07:31,030 --> 03:07:31,040
because I I really just was like, I want
 

9629
03:07:31,040 --> 03:07:32,870
because I I really just was like, I want
I need I I need to believe this girl.

9630
03:07:32,870 --> 03:07:32,880
I need I I need to believe this girl.
 

9631
03:07:32,880 --> 03:07:35,429
I need I I need to believe this girl.
Like that everybody else has already let

9632
03:07:35,429 --> 03:07:35,439
Like that everybody else has already let
 

9633
03:07:35,439 --> 03:07:36,630
Like that everybody else has already let
this person down. I don't want to be

9634
03:07:36,630 --> 03:07:36,640
this person down. I don't want to be
 

9635
03:07:36,640 --> 03:07:38,950
this person down. I don't want to be
that [\h__\h] [\h__\h] that decides like,

9636
03:07:38,950 --> 03:07:38,960
that [\h__\h] [\h__\h] that decides like,
 

9637
03:07:38,960 --> 03:07:41,150
that [\h__\h] [\h__\h] that decides like,
nah, this person, you know, is

9638
03:07:41,150 --> 03:07:41,160
nah, this person, you know, is
 

9639
03:07:41,160 --> 03:07:43,429
nah, this person, you know, is
not makes no sense. Our story is not

9640
03:07:43,429 --> 03:07:43,439
not makes no sense. Our story is not
 

9641
03:07:43,439 --> 03:07:45,429
not makes no sense. Our story is not
adding up. Whatever. That kind of thing.

9642
03:07:45,429 --> 03:07:45,439
adding up. Whatever. That kind of thing.
 

9643
03:07:45,439 --> 03:07:47,269
adding up. Whatever. That kind of thing.
Like Yeah. Especially since so many

9644
03:07:47,269 --> 03:07:47,279
Like Yeah. Especially since so many
 

9645
03:07:47,279 --> 03:07:48,630
Like Yeah. Especially since so many
people have already let you down. And

9646
03:07:48,630 --> 03:07:48,640
people have already let you down. And
 

9647
03:07:48,640 --> 03:07:51,030
people have already let you down. And
I'm just like, I can't be that person.

9648
03:07:51,030 --> 03:07:51,040
I'm just like, I can't be that person.
 

9649
03:07:51,040 --> 03:07:55,190
I'm just like, I can't be that person.
I'm trying fighting so hard to not be. I

9650
03:07:55,190 --> 03:07:55,200
I'm trying fighting so hard to not be. I
 

9651
03:07:55,200 --> 03:08:01,190
I'm trying fighting so hard to not be. I
I So I've I've known Lazy now for uh two

9652
03:08:01,190 --> 03:08:01,200
I So I've I've known Lazy now for uh two
 

9653
03:08:01,200 --> 03:08:03,670
I So I've I've known Lazy now for uh two
years. I was two maybe. Good lord. Has

9654
03:08:03,670 --> 03:08:03,680
years. I was two maybe. Good lord. Has
 

9655
03:08:03,680 --> 03:08:07,110
years. I was two maybe. Good lord. Has
it actually been that long? Yeah, we I

9656
03:08:07,110 --> 03:08:07,120
it actually been that long? Yeah, we I
 

9657
03:08:07,120 --> 03:08:08,309
it actually been that long? Yeah, we I
was like, "Hi, want to put on my

9658
03:08:08,309 --> 03:08:08,319
was like, "Hi, want to put on my
 

9659
03:08:08,319 --> 03:08:11,030
was like, "Hi, want to put on my
podcast?" Jesus Christ, it's been two

9660
03:08:11,030 --> 03:08:11,040
podcast?" Jesus Christ, it's been two
 

9661
03:08:11,040 --> 03:08:13,910
podcast?" Jesus Christ, it's been two
years. Yeah. My god.

9662
03:08:13,910 --> 03:08:13,920
years. Yeah. My god.
 

9663
03:08:13,920 --> 03:08:18,349
years. Yeah. My god.
The reason why whenever anything uh

9664
03:08:18,349 --> 03:08:18,359
The reason why whenever anything uh
 

9665
03:08:18,359 --> 03:08:21,510
The reason why whenever anything uh
drama related happens, she's one of the

9666
03:08:21,510 --> 03:08:21,520
drama related happens, she's one of the
 

9667
03:08:21,520 --> 03:08:23,830
drama related happens, she's one of the
first people that I go to is cuz I know

9668
03:08:23,830 --> 03:08:23,840
first people that I go to is cuz I know
 

9669
03:08:23,840 --> 03:08:26,309
first people that I go to is cuz I know
that she genuinely cares and will and

9670
03:08:26,309 --> 03:08:26,319
that she genuinely cares and will and
 

9671
03:08:26,319 --> 03:08:28,070
that she genuinely cares and will and
will and it's not like she's trying to

9672
03:08:28,070 --> 03:08:28,080
will and it's not like she's trying to
 

9673
03:08:28,080 --> 03:08:30,309
will and it's not like she's trying to
do anything that's sensationalist like

9674
03:08:30,309 --> 03:08:30,319
do anything that's sensationalist like
 

9675
03:08:30,319 --> 03:08:34,070
do anything that's sensationalist like
so many of these other channels are. Um,

9676
03:08:34,070 --> 03:08:34,080
so many of these other channels are. Um,
 

9677
03:08:34,080 --> 03:08:37,110
so many of these other channels are. Um,
and when she looks into situations,

9678
03:08:37,110 --> 03:08:37,120
and when she looks into situations,
 

9679
03:08:37,120 --> 03:08:40,469
and when she looks into situations,
uh, she's looking in cuz she cares. I'm

9680
03:08:40,469 --> 03:08:40,479
uh, she's looking in cuz she cares. I'm
 

9681
03:08:40,479 --> 03:08:41,830
uh, she's looking in cuz she cares. I'm
not an investigator. I'm just somebody

9682
03:08:41,830 --> 03:08:41,840
not an investigator. I'm just somebody
 

9683
03:08:41,840 --> 03:08:43,269
not an investigator. I'm just somebody
who gives a [\h__\h] You know what I mean?

9684
03:08:43,269 --> 03:08:43,279
who gives a [\h__\h] You know what I mean?
 

9685
03:08:43,279 --> 03:08:46,870
who gives a [\h__\h] You know what I mean?
Like I'm just somebody who cares. Yeah,

9686
03:08:46,870 --> 03:08:46,880
Like I'm just somebody who cares. Yeah,
 

9687
03:08:46,880 --> 03:08:49,630
Like I'm just somebody who cares. Yeah,
absolutely. And I feel that it requires

9688
03:08:49,630 --> 03:08:49,640
absolutely. And I feel that it requires
 

9689
03:08:49,640 --> 03:08:52,389
absolutely. And I feel that it requires
empathy. You know, these are we're going

9690
03:08:52,389 --> 03:08:52,399
empathy. You know, these are we're going
 

9691
03:08:52,399 --> 03:08:55,269
empathy. You know, these are we're going
over stories that are vulnerable, you

9692
03:08:55,269 --> 03:08:55,279
over stories that are vulnerable, you
 

9693
03:08:55,279 --> 03:08:56,950
over stories that are vulnerable, you
know, and for people that they they can

9694
03:08:56,950 --> 03:08:56,960
know, and for people that they they can
 

9695
03:08:56,960 --> 03:08:59,349
know, and for people that they they can
be very traumatic. So why I I feel like

9696
03:08:59,349 --> 03:08:59,359
be very traumatic. So why I I feel like
 

9697
03:08:59,359 --> 03:09:01,510
be very traumatic. So why I I feel like
empathy is a very important element to

9698
03:09:01,510 --> 03:09:01,520
empathy is a very important element to
 

9699
03:09:01,520 --> 03:09:02,670
empathy is a very important element to
this.

9700
03:09:02,670 --> 03:09:02,680
this.
 

9701
03:09:02,680 --> 03:09:05,510
this.
Mhm. And also just kind of recognizing

9702
03:09:05,510 --> 03:09:05,520
Mhm. And also just kind of recognizing
 

9703
03:09:05,520 --> 03:09:07,030
Mhm. And also just kind of recognizing
like just to put it out there for the

9704
03:09:07,030 --> 03:09:07,040
like just to put it out there for the
 

9705
03:09:07,040 --> 03:09:09,269
like just to put it out there for the
people, you know, there are certain

9706
03:09:09,269 --> 03:09:09,279
people, you know, there are certain
 

9707
03:09:09,279 --> 03:09:11,190
people, you know, there are certain
types of cases, right, very similar to

9708
03:09:11,190 --> 03:09:11,200
types of cases, right, very similar to
 

9709
03:09:11,200 --> 03:09:13,990
types of cases, right, very similar to
this one where not everything is going

9710
03:09:13,990 --> 03:09:14,000
this one where not everything is going
 

9711
03:09:14,000 --> 03:09:15,830
this one where not everything is going
to be documented or it can't be for

9712
03:09:15,830 --> 03:09:15,840
to be documented or it can't be for
 

9713
03:09:15,840 --> 03:09:18,750
to be documented or it can't be for
whatever reason. There's a lot of

9714
03:09:18,750 --> 03:09:18,760
whatever reason. There's a lot of
 

9715
03:09:18,760 --> 03:09:21,349
whatever reason. There's a lot of
undocumentable sexual assault. It's

9716
03:09:21,349 --> 03:09:21,359
undocumentable sexual assault. It's
 

9717
03:09:21,359 --> 03:09:22,950
undocumentable sexual assault. It's
something that is unfortunate. It's

9718
03:09:22,950 --> 03:09:22,960
something that is unfortunate. It's
 

9719
03:09:22,960 --> 03:09:25,269
something that is unfortunate. It's
something that will probably not get you

9720
03:09:25,269 --> 03:09:25,279
something that will probably not get you
 

9721
03:09:25,279 --> 03:09:27,269
something that will probably not get you
any sort of legal justice because the

9722
03:09:27,269 --> 03:09:27,279
any sort of legal justice because the
 

9723
03:09:27,279 --> 03:09:29,429
any sort of legal justice because the
justice system works off of very

9724
03:09:29,429 --> 03:09:29,439
justice system works off of very
 

9725
03:09:29,439 --> 03:09:30,790
justice system works off of very
physical evidence. But it's hard to

9726
03:09:30,790 --> 03:09:30,800
physical evidence. But it's hard to
 

9727
03:09:30,800 --> 03:09:32,630
physical evidence. But it's hard to
present that physical evidence when it's

9728
03:09:32,630 --> 03:09:32,640
present that physical evidence when it's
 

9729
03:09:32,640 --> 03:09:34,870
present that physical evidence when it's
either happened over 10 years ago or

9730
03:09:34,870 --> 03:09:34,880
either happened over 10 years ago or
 

9731
03:09:34,880 --> 03:09:36,790
either happened over 10 years ago or
it's just a private situation between

9732
03:09:36,790 --> 03:09:36,800
it's just a private situation between
 

9733
03:09:36,800 --> 03:09:38,790
it's just a private situation between
two people and no other witnesses or

9734
03:09:38,790 --> 03:09:38,800
two people and no other witnesses or
 

9735
03:09:38,800 --> 03:09:40,309
two people and no other witnesses or
like you just don't think in the moment

9736
03:09:40,309 --> 03:09:40,319
like you just don't think in the moment
 

9737
03:09:40,319 --> 03:09:41,750
like you just don't think in the moment
to document it because who the [\h__\h]

9738
03:09:41,750 --> 03:09:41,760
to document it because who the [\h__\h]
 

9739
03:09:41,760 --> 03:09:43,510
to document it because who the [\h__\h]
thinks the moment they're raped, let me

9740
03:09:43,510 --> 03:09:43,520
thinks the moment they're raped, let me
 

9741
03:09:43,520 --> 03:09:44,870
thinks the moment they're raped, let me
set up a legal case. They're thinking,

9742
03:09:44,870 --> 03:09:44,880
set up a legal case. They're thinking,
 

9743
03:09:44,880 --> 03:09:46,550
set up a legal case. They're thinking,
no, this was traumatic. What the [\h__\h]

9744
03:09:46,550 --> 03:09:46,560
no, this was traumatic. What the [\h__\h]
 

9745
03:09:46,560 --> 03:09:49,990
no, this was traumatic. What the [\h__\h]
just happened to me? So, it's I think

9746
03:09:49,990 --> 03:09:50,000
just happened to me? So, it's I think
 

9747
03:09:50,000 --> 03:09:51,190
just happened to me? So, it's I think
it's important for people to have

9748
03:09:51,190 --> 03:09:51,200
it's important for people to have
 

9749
03:09:51,200 --> 03:09:53,269
it's important for people to have
empathy for people with cases of sexual

9750
03:09:53,269 --> 03:09:53,279
empathy for people with cases of sexual
 

9751
03:09:53,279 --> 03:09:55,190
empathy for people with cases of sexual
abuse and not immediately assume because

9752
03:09:55,190 --> 03:09:55,200
abuse and not immediately assume because
 

9753
03:09:55,200 --> 03:09:56,550
abuse and not immediately assume because
they don't have everything in front of

9754
03:09:56,550 --> 03:09:56,560
they don't have everything in front of
 

9755
03:09:56,560 --> 03:09:58,309
they don't have everything in front of
them. They don't have all of the [\h__\h]

9756
03:09:58,309 --> 03:09:58,319
them. They don't have all of the [\h__\h]
 

9757
03:09:58,319 --> 03:09:59,910
them. They don't have all of the [\h__\h]
receipts in the world that they must be

9758
03:09:59,910 --> 03:09:59,920
receipts in the world that they must be
 

9759
03:09:59,920 --> 03:10:02,550
receipts in the world that they must be
lying. It's just sometimes these things

9760
03:10:02,550 --> 03:10:02,560
lying. It's just sometimes these things
 

9761
03:10:02,560 --> 03:10:04,630
lying. It's just sometimes these things
don't get documented cuz people aren't

9762
03:10:04,630 --> 03:10:04,640
don't get documented cuz people aren't
 

9763
03:10:04,640 --> 03:10:06,389
don't get documented cuz people aren't
immediately assuming I need to document

9764
03:10:06,389 --> 03:10:06,399
immediately assuming I need to document
 

9765
03:10:06,399 --> 03:10:08,309
immediately assuming I need to document
this [\h__\h] immediately. That's and that's

9766
03:10:08,309 --> 03:10:08,319
this [\h__\h] immediately. That's and that's
 

9767
03:10:08,319 --> 03:10:10,469
this [\h__\h] immediately. That's and that's
normal because it's it's traumatic. It's

9768
03:10:10,469 --> 03:10:10,479
normal because it's it's traumatic. It's
 

9769
03:10:10,479 --> 03:10:12,309
normal because it's it's traumatic. It's
you don't I don't expect somebody who

9770
03:10:12,309 --> 03:10:12,319
you don't I don't expect somebody who
 

9771
03:10:12,319 --> 03:10:14,150
you don't I don't expect somebody who
just been raped to suddenly be like

9772
03:10:14,150 --> 03:10:14,160
just been raped to suddenly be like
 

9773
03:10:14,160 --> 03:10:15,750
just been raped to suddenly be like
collect every single screenshot you've

9774
03:10:15,750 --> 03:10:15,760
collect every single screenshot you've
 

9775
03:10:15,760 --> 03:10:17,429
collect every single screenshot you've
ever had. Like that's ridiculous and

9776
03:10:17,429 --> 03:10:17,439
ever had. Like that's ridiculous and
 

9777
03:10:17,439 --> 03:10:19,910
ever had. Like that's ridiculous and
that's silly, right? It's not realistic.

9778
03:10:19,910 --> 03:10:19,920
that's silly, right? It's not realistic.
 

9779
03:10:19,920 --> 03:10:22,150
that's silly, right? It's not realistic.
Like the immediate the immediate

9780
03:10:22,150 --> 03:10:22,160
Like the immediate the immediate
 

9781
03:10:22,160 --> 03:10:25,429
Like the immediate the immediate
response is I need to get to safety. I

9782
03:10:25,429 --> 03:10:25,439
response is I need to get to safety. I
 

9783
03:10:25,439 --> 03:10:28,950
response is I need to get to safety. I
I'm not okay. I need to calm down. Just

9784
03:10:28,950 --> 03:10:28,960
I'm not okay. I need to calm down. Just
 

9785
03:10:28,960 --> 03:10:30,710
I'm not okay. I need to calm down. Just
taking care of ourselves and dealing

9786
03:10:30,710 --> 03:10:30,720
taking care of ourselves and dealing
 

9787
03:10:30,720 --> 03:10:32,790
taking care of ourselves and dealing
with it. You know, we have it's it's

9788
03:10:32,790 --> 03:10:32,800
with it. You know, we have it's it's
 

9789
03:10:32,800 --> 03:10:34,950
with it. You know, we have it's it's
emotionally hard, you know. So, that is

9790
03:10:34,950 --> 03:10:34,960
emotionally hard, you know. So, that is
 

9791
03:10:34,960 --> 03:10:36,630
emotionally hard, you know. So, that is
priority number one. We're not thinking

9792
03:10:36,630 --> 03:10:36,640
priority number one. We're not thinking
 

9793
03:10:36,640 --> 03:10:38,630
priority number one. We're not thinking
that like, oh, I need to screenshot

9794
03:10:38,630 --> 03:10:38,640
that like, oh, I need to screenshot
 

9795
03:10:38,640 --> 03:10:40,150
that like, oh, I need to screenshot
everything and and make sure I have

9796
03:10:40,150 --> 03:10:40,160
everything and and make sure I have
 

9797
03:10:40,160 --> 03:10:41,910
everything and and make sure I have
this, you know, just in case. I'm not

9798
03:10:41,910 --> 03:10:41,920
this, you know, just in case. I'm not
 

9799
03:10:41,920 --> 03:10:44,230
this, you know, just in case. I'm not
that's not I'm not thinking from that

9800
03:10:44,230 --> 03:10:44,240
that's not I'm not thinking from that
 

9801
03:10:44,240 --> 03:10:45,990
that's not I'm not thinking from that
lens. then most people aren't, you know,

9802
03:10:45,990 --> 03:10:46,000
lens. then most people aren't, you know,
 

9803
03:10:46,000 --> 03:10:47,750
lens. then most people aren't, you know,
there might be some people who do that,

9804
03:10:47,750 --> 03:10:47,760
there might be some people who do that,
 

9805
03:10:47,760 --> 03:10:49,190
there might be some people who do that,
you know, but I'm not really one of

9806
03:10:49,190 --> 03:10:49,200
you know, but I'm not really one of
 

9807
03:10:49,200 --> 03:10:51,269
you know, but I'm not really one of
them, right? And it's not realistic to

9808
03:10:51,269 --> 03:10:51,279
them, right? And it's not realistic to
 

9809
03:10:51,279 --> 03:10:52,710
them, right? And it's not realistic to
assume that every single person will

9810
03:10:52,710 --> 03:10:52,720
assume that every single person will
 

9811
03:10:52,720 --> 03:10:54,309
assume that every single person will
immediately build a legal case against

9812
03:10:54,309 --> 03:10:54,319
immediately build a legal case against
 

9813
03:10:54,319 --> 03:10:56,389
immediately build a legal case against
someone cuz that's even scary in of

9814
03:10:56,389 --> 03:10:56,399
someone cuz that's even scary in of
 

9815
03:10:56,399 --> 03:10:57,670
someone cuz that's even scary in of
itself to be like, I don't want to ruin

9816
03:10:57,670 --> 03:10:57,680
itself to be like, I don't want to ruin
 

9817
03:10:57,680 --> 03:10:59,910
itself to be like, I don't want to ruin
this person's life. Like I mean, it's

9818
03:10:59,910 --> 03:10:59,920
this person's life. Like I mean, it's
 

9819
03:10:59,920 --> 03:11:02,230
this person's life. Like I mean, it's
horrible what they did to me, but like I

9820
03:11:02,230 --> 03:11:02,240
horrible what they did to me, but like I
 

9821
03:11:02,240 --> 03:11:03,990
horrible what they did to me, but like I
don't, you know, it's cuz they're

9822
03:11:03,990 --> 03:11:04,000
don't, you know, it's cuz they're
 

9823
03:11:04,000 --> 03:11:06,150
don't, you know, it's cuz they're
thinking of just like, you know, they're

9824
03:11:06,150 --> 03:11:06,160
thinking of just like, you know, they're
 

9825
03:11:06,160 --> 03:11:09,030
thinking of just like, you know, they're
thinking of justice as like a singular

9826
03:11:09,030 --> 03:11:09,040
thinking of justice as like a singular
 

9827
03:11:09,040 --> 03:11:10,870
thinking of justice as like a singular
streamline, I think, where it's like if

9828
03:11:10,870 --> 03:11:10,880
streamline, I think, where it's like if
 

9829
03:11:10,880 --> 03:11:12,150
streamline, I think, where it's like if
someone did something wrong to you, they

9830
03:11:12,150 --> 03:11:12,160
someone did something wrong to you, they
 

9831
03:11:12,160 --> 03:11:15,190
someone did something wrong to you, they
go to jail. And it's like, well, I mean,

9832
03:11:15,190 --> 03:11:15,200
go to jail. And it's like, well, I mean,
 

9833
03:11:15,200 --> 03:11:18,550
go to jail. And it's like, well, I mean,
I would just rather like an apology or

9834
03:11:18,550 --> 03:11:18,560
I would just rather like an apology or
 

9835
03:11:18,560 --> 03:11:20,150
I would just rather like an apology or
maybe just like a restraining order so

9836
03:11:20,150 --> 03:11:20,160
maybe just like a restraining order so
 

9837
03:11:20,160 --> 03:11:21,990
maybe just like a restraining order so
this person never speaks to me again.

9838
03:11:21,990 --> 03:11:22,000
this person never speaks to me again.
 

9839
03:11:22,000 --> 03:11:24,950
this person never speaks to me again.
Like something like just it not

9840
03:11:24,950 --> 03:11:24,960
Like something like just it not
 

9841
03:11:24,960 --> 03:11:26,710
Like something like just it not
everyone's justice looks the same. And

9842
03:11:26,710 --> 03:11:26,720
everyone's justice looks the same. And
 

9843
03:11:26,720 --> 03:11:28,309
everyone's justice looks the same. And
you know, that's probably why this whole

9844
03:11:28,309 --> 03:11:28,319
you know, that's probably why this whole
 

9845
03:11:28,319 --> 03:11:29,670
you know, that's probably why this whole
thing has become a popular thing

9846
03:11:29,670 --> 03:11:29,680
thing has become a popular thing
 

9847
03:11:29,680 --> 03:11:32,630
thing has become a popular thing
nowadays just cuz people see going to

9848
03:11:32,630 --> 03:11:32,640
nowadays just cuz people see going to
 

9849
03:11:32,640 --> 03:11:34,230
nowadays just cuz people see going to
the internet as their form of justice.

9850
03:11:34,230 --> 03:11:34,240
the internet as their form of justice.
 

9851
03:11:34,240 --> 03:11:35,830
the internet as their form of justice.
And I don't think that that's you. I

9852
03:11:35,830 --> 03:11:35,840
And I don't think that that's you. I
 

9853
03:11:35,840 --> 03:11:37,190
And I don't think that that's you. I
think you're just to a point where

9854
03:11:37,190 --> 03:11:37,200
think you're just to a point where
 

9855
03:11:37,200 --> 03:11:39,510
think you're just to a point where
you're just like, I I don't know how

9856
03:11:39,510 --> 03:11:39,520
you're just like, I I don't know how
 

9857
03:11:39,520 --> 03:11:40,950
you're just like, I I don't know how
else to really work through this cuz

9858
03:11:40,950 --> 03:11:40,960
else to really work through this cuz
 

9859
03:11:40,960 --> 03:11:42,550
else to really work through this cuz
it's been bothering me for this long,

9860
03:11:42,550 --> 03:11:42,560
it's been bothering me for this long,
 

9861
03:11:42,560 --> 03:11:46,389
it's been bothering me for this long,
you know,

9862
03:11:46,389 --> 03:11:46,399

 

9863
03:11:46,399 --> 03:11:48,630

you know, and it this was again like a

9864
03:11:48,630 --> 03:11:48,640
you know, and it this was again like a
 

9865
03:11:48,640 --> 03:11:52,150
you know, and it this was again like a
personal thing. This was a personal move

9866
03:11:52,150 --> 03:11:52,160
personal thing. This was a personal move
 

9867
03:11:52,160 --> 03:11:54,790
personal thing. This was a personal move
to try to work towards that healing and

9868
03:11:54,790 --> 03:11:54,800
to try to work towards that healing and
 

9869
03:11:54,800 --> 03:11:57,830
to try to work towards that healing and
of my like for myself.

9870
03:11:57,830 --> 03:11:57,840
of my like for myself.
 

9871
03:11:57,840 --> 03:11:59,349
of my like for myself.
And you know what? I I hope you get

9872
03:11:59,349 --> 03:11:59,359
And you know what? I I hope you get
 

9873
03:11:59,359 --> 03:12:03,510
And you know what? I I hope you get
that. I mean, I I I totally understand.

9874
03:12:03,510 --> 03:12:03,520
that. I mean, I I I totally understand.
 

9875
03:12:03,520 --> 03:12:05,510
that. I mean, I I I totally understand.
This whole situation has been traumatic

9876
03:12:05,510 --> 03:12:05,520
This whole situation has been traumatic
 

9877
03:12:05,520 --> 03:12:08,070
This whole situation has been traumatic
for everybody. Not more for you, but

9878
03:12:08,070 --> 03:12:08,080
for everybody. Not more for you, but
 

9879
03:12:08,080 --> 03:12:10,230
for everybody. Not more for you, but
it's been traumatic for like everyone

9880
03:12:10,230 --> 03:12:10,240
it's been traumatic for like everyone
 

9881
03:12:10,240 --> 03:12:11,510
it's been traumatic for like everyone
bearing witness and just being like,

9882
03:12:11,510 --> 03:12:11,520
bearing witness and just being like,
 

9883
03:12:11,520 --> 03:12:14,550
bearing witness and just being like,
"What the [\h__\h] is going on?" Like, this

9884
03:12:14,550 --> 03:12:14,560
"What the [\h__\h] is going on?" Like, this
 

9885
03:12:14,560 --> 03:12:17,429
"What the [\h__\h] is going on?" Like, this
truly has been a brain altering like

9886
03:12:17,429 --> 03:12:17,439
truly has been a brain altering like
 

9887
03:12:17,439 --> 03:12:19,269
truly has been a brain altering like
like you said, a [\h__\h] chemistry

9888
03:12:19,269 --> 03:12:19,279
like you said, a [\h__\h] chemistry
 

9889
03:12:19,279 --> 03:12:23,030
like you said, a [\h__\h] chemistry
altering moment in YouTube history. Oh,

9890
03:12:23,030 --> 03:12:23,040
altering moment in YouTube history. Oh,
 

9891
03:12:23,040 --> 03:12:27,670
altering moment in YouTube history. Oh,
yes. Yes. Oh my god.

9892
03:12:27,670 --> 03:12:27,680
yes. Yes. Oh my god.
 

9893
03:12:27,680 --> 03:12:29,510
yes. Yes. Oh my god.
some of these nights where I'm just here

9894
03:12:29,510 --> 03:12:29,520
some of these nights where I'm just here
 

9895
03:12:29,520 --> 03:12:31,830
some of these nights where I'm just here
and I'm like I I'm not okay and I don't

9896
03:12:31,830 --> 03:12:31,840
and I'm like I I'm not okay and I don't
 

9897
03:12:31,840 --> 03:12:33,910
and I'm like I I'm not okay and I don't
know when I'm going to be okay again. Oh

9898
03:12:33,910 --> 03:12:33,920
know when I'm going to be okay again. Oh
 

9899
03:12:33,920 --> 03:12:36,550
know when I'm going to be okay again. Oh
my god. Well, look, I think there is

9900
03:12:36,550 --> 03:12:36,560
my god. Well, look, I think there is
 

9901
03:12:36,560 --> 03:12:37,590
my god. Well, look, I think there is
going to be a point where you're going

9902
03:12:37,590 --> 03:12:37,600
going to be a point where you're going
 

9903
03:12:37,600 --> 03:12:39,990
going to be a point where you're going
to be okay again. And the reason why I

9904
03:12:39,990 --> 03:12:40,000
to be okay again. And the reason why I
 

9905
03:12:40,000 --> 03:12:41,230
to be okay again. And the reason why I
say that is

9906
03:12:41,230 --> 03:12:41,240
say that is
 

9907
03:12:41,240 --> 03:12:44,070
say that is
because not be because I think you are

9908
03:12:44,070 --> 03:12:44,080
because not be because I think you are
 

9909
03:12:44,080 --> 03:12:46,150
because not be because I think you are
coming to a realization that like this

9910
03:12:46,150 --> 03:12:46,160
coming to a realization that like this
 

9911
03:12:46,160 --> 03:12:47,910
coming to a realization that like this
is something you can't avoid anymore.

9912
03:12:47,910 --> 03:12:47,920
is something you can't avoid anymore.
 

9913
03:12:47,920 --> 03:12:49,590
is something you can't avoid anymore.
And it's not like uh you've been running

9914
03:12:49,590 --> 03:12:49,600
And it's not like uh you've been running
 

9915
03:12:49,600 --> 03:12:50,710
And it's not like uh you've been running
from it and now you're scared to

9916
03:12:50,710 --> 03:12:50,720
from it and now you're scared to
 

9917
03:12:50,720 --> 03:12:52,870
from it and now you're scared to
confront it. It's like I'm tired of

9918
03:12:52,870 --> 03:12:52,880
confront it. It's like I'm tired of
 

9919
03:12:52,880 --> 03:12:54,950
confront it. It's like I'm tired of
running from it. And that's a good

9920
03:12:54,950 --> 03:12:54,960
running from it. And that's a good
 

9921
03:12:54,960 --> 03:12:56,630
running from it. And that's a good
realization to come to where you get to

9922
03:12:56,630 --> 03:12:56,640
realization to come to where you get to
 

9923
03:12:56,640 --> 03:12:58,469
realization to come to where you get to
a point where you're like this is I

9924
03:12:58,469 --> 03:12:58,479
a point where you're like this is I
 

9925
03:12:58,479 --> 03:13:00,790
a point where you're like this is I
can't keep running for I'm so exhausted.

9926
03:13:00,790 --> 03:13:00,800
can't keep running for I'm so exhausted.
 

9927
03:13:00,800 --> 03:13:02,710
can't keep running for I'm so exhausted.
You know, you might as well just pull

9928
03:13:02,710 --> 03:13:02,720
You know, you might as well just pull
 

9929
03:13:02,720 --> 03:13:03,910
You know, you might as well just pull
the band-aid off at this point. Like

9930
03:13:03,910 --> 03:13:03,920
the band-aid off at this point. Like
 

9931
03:13:03,920 --> 03:13:06,150
the band-aid off at this point. Like
it's like this band-aid has been on me

9932
03:13:06,150 --> 03:13:06,160
it's like this band-aid has been on me
 

9933
03:13:06,160 --> 03:13:08,309
it's like this band-aid has been on me
for 10 years. It's getting old and yeah,

9934
03:13:08,309 --> 03:13:08,319
for 10 years. It's getting old and yeah,
 

9935
03:13:08,319 --> 03:13:09,670
for 10 years. It's getting old and yeah,
it's going to hurt to rip off, but like

9936
03:13:09,670 --> 03:13:09,680
it's going to hurt to rip off, but like
 

9937
03:13:09,680 --> 03:13:11,190
it's going to hurt to rip off, but like
it needs to come off. Like this is

9938
03:13:11,190 --> 03:13:11,200
it needs to come off. Like this is
 

9939
03:13:11,200 --> 03:13:13,190
it needs to come off. Like this is
ridiculous.

9940
03:13:13,190 --> 03:13:13,200
ridiculous.
 

9941
03:13:13,200 --> 03:13:14,870
ridiculous.
But I think when most people get to that

9942
03:13:14,870 --> 03:13:14,880
But I think when most people get to that
 

9943
03:13:14,880 --> 03:13:18,230
But I think when most people get to that
realization of this is something I can't

9944
03:13:18,230 --> 03:13:18,240
realization of this is something I can't
 

9945
03:13:18,240 --> 03:13:19,590
realization of this is something I can't
run from, not because they're like

9946
03:13:19,590 --> 03:13:19,600
run from, not because they're like
 

9947
03:13:19,600 --> 03:13:20,950
run from, not because they're like
afraid to confront it, but because

9948
03:13:20,950 --> 03:13:20,960
afraid to confront it, but because
 

9949
03:13:20,960 --> 03:13:22,550
afraid to confront it, but because
they're like, I need to because I just

9950
03:13:22,550 --> 03:13:22,560
they're like, I need to because I just
 

9951
03:13:22,560 --> 03:13:23,910
they're like, I need to because I just
don't want it to be a part of my life

9952
03:13:23,910 --> 03:13:23,920
don't want it to be a part of my life
 

9953
03:13:23,920 --> 03:13:25,990
don't want it to be a part of my life
anymore. I think that's where people

9954
03:13:25,990 --> 03:13:26,000
anymore. I think that's where people
 

9955
03:13:26,000 --> 03:13:28,469
anymore. I think that's where people
like end up getting the most healing and

9956
03:13:28,469 --> 03:13:28,479
like end up getting the most healing and
 

9957
03:13:28,479 --> 03:13:30,229
like end up getting the most healing and
they end up being pretty okay in the

9958
03:13:30,229 --> 03:13:30,239
they end up being pretty okay in the
 

9959
03:13:30,239 --> 03:13:31,670
they end up being pretty okay in the
end. You know what I mean? And sure,

9960
03:13:31,670 --> 03:13:31,680
end. You know what I mean? And sure,
 

9961
03:13:31,680 --> 03:13:33,030
end. You know what I mean? And sure,
there's going to be those [\h__\h] on

9962
03:13:33,030 --> 03:13:33,040
there's going to be those [\h__\h] on
 

9963
03:13:33,040 --> 03:13:34,150
there's going to be those [\h__\h] on
the internet who are just going to be

9964
03:13:34,150 --> 03:13:34,160
the internet who are just going to be
 

9965
03:13:34,160 --> 03:13:36,389
the internet who are just going to be
like, you know, say whatever they want

9966
03:13:36,389 --> 03:13:36,399
like, you know, say whatever they want
 

9967
03:13:36,399 --> 03:13:38,630
like, you know, say whatever they want
kind of thing, but that shouldn't deter

9968
03:13:38,630 --> 03:13:38,640
kind of thing, but that shouldn't deter
 

9969
03:13:38,640 --> 03:13:40,870
kind of thing, but that shouldn't deter
you from your healing. That should be an

9970
03:13:40,870 --> 03:13:40,880
you from your healing. That should be an
 

9971
03:13:40,880 --> 03:13:43,950
you from your healing. That should be an
example of people in the real world are

9972
03:13:43,950 --> 03:13:43,960
example of people in the real world are
 

9973
03:13:43,960 --> 03:13:47,229
example of people in the real world are
dicks. That's the moral of the story.

9974
03:13:47,229 --> 03:13:47,239
dicks. That's the moral of the story.
 

9975
03:13:47,239 --> 03:13:50,229
dicks. That's the moral of the story.
And and and more and more so more too

9976
03:13:50,229 --> 03:13:50,239
And and and more and more so more too
 

9977
03:13:50,239 --> 03:13:52,750
And and and more and more so more too
than anything, you know, people in the

9978
03:13:52,750 --> 03:13:52,760
than anything, you know, people in the
 

9979
03:13:52,760 --> 03:13:55,349
than anything, you know, people in the
world don't know the full story. They

9980
03:13:55,349 --> 03:13:55,359
world don't know the full story. They
 

9981
03:13:55,359 --> 03:13:58,150
world don't know the full story. They
don't know everything about everybody.

9982
03:13:58,150 --> 03:13:58,160
don't know everything about everybody.
 

9983
03:13:58,160 --> 03:13:59,990
don't know everything about everybody.
And that's not a bad thing. You know,

9984
03:13:59,990 --> 03:14:00,000
And that's not a bad thing. You know,
 

9985
03:14:00,000 --> 03:14:02,150
And that's not a bad thing. You know,
yes, it sucks in these situations where

9986
03:14:02,150 --> 03:14:02,160
yes, it sucks in these situations where
 

9987
03:14:02,160 --> 03:14:05,030
yes, it sucks in these situations where
they might not be believed, but I've

9988
03:14:05,030 --> 03:14:05,040
they might not be believed, but I've
 

9989
03:14:05,040 --> 03:14:08,389
they might not be believed, but I've
I've also learned that there is healing

9990
03:14:08,389 --> 03:14:08,399
I've also learned that there is healing
 

9991
03:14:08,399 --> 03:14:11,429
I've also learned that there is healing
and comfort in this safety space where

9992
03:14:11,429 --> 03:14:11,439
and comfort in this safety space where
 

9993
03:14:11,439 --> 03:14:13,030
and comfort in this safety space where
it's like, you know, people not everyone

9994
03:14:13,030 --> 03:14:13,040
it's like, you know, people not everyone
 

9995
03:14:13,040 --> 03:14:15,429
it's like, you know, people not everyone
does know and that's okay. That actually

9996
03:14:15,429 --> 03:14:15,439
does know and that's okay. That actually
 

9997
03:14:15,439 --> 03:14:17,030
does know and that's okay. That actually
that that could be a good thing, you

9998
03:14:17,030 --> 03:14:17,040
that that could be a good thing, you
 

9999
03:14:17,040 --> 03:14:19,750
that that could be a good thing, you
know? Right. Yeah. And I think that like

10000
03:14:19,750 --> 03:14:19,760
know? Right. Yeah. And I think that like
 

10001
03:14:19,760 --> 03:14:21,349
know? Right. Yeah. And I think that like
regardless, yeah, people are dicks, but

10002
03:14:21,349 --> 03:14:21,359
regardless, yeah, people are dicks, but
 

10003
03:14:21,359 --> 03:14:22,710
regardless, yeah, people are dicks, but
also people are entitled to their own

10004
03:14:22,710 --> 03:14:22,720
also people are entitled to their own
 

10005
03:14:22,720 --> 03:14:24,870
also people are entitled to their own
opinions and like you can't necessarily

10006
03:14:24,870 --> 03:14:24,880
opinions and like you can't necessarily
 

10007
03:14:24,880 --> 03:14:27,429
opinions and like you can't necessarily
stop somebody from voicing an opinion.

10008
03:14:27,429 --> 03:14:27,439
stop somebody from voicing an opinion.
 

10009
03:14:27,439 --> 03:14:29,349
stop somebody from voicing an opinion.
Every opinions are like [\h__\h]

10010
03:14:29,349 --> 03:14:29,359
Every opinions are like [\h__\h]
 

10011
03:14:29,359 --> 03:14:32,150
Every opinions are like [\h__\h]
Everyone has one. Um, but I think that

10012
03:14:32,150 --> 03:14:32,160
Everyone has one. Um, but I think that
 

10013
03:14:32,160 --> 03:14:33,990
Everyone has one. Um, but I think that
like the people who like voice a

10014
03:14:33,990 --> 03:14:34,000
like the people who like voice a
 

10015
03:14:34,000 --> 03:14:36,630
like the people who like voice a
dissenting opinion will be the type of

10016
03:14:36,630 --> 03:14:36,640
dissenting opinion will be the type of
 

10017
03:14:36,640 --> 03:14:39,590
dissenting opinion will be the type of
people who will probably always be like

10018
03:14:39,590 --> 03:14:39,600
people who will probably always be like
 

10019
03:14:39,600 --> 03:14:41,349
people who will probably always be like
that. It's not necessarily towards you

10020
03:14:41,349 --> 03:14:41,359
that. It's not necessarily towards you
 

10021
03:14:41,359 --> 03:14:42,870
that. It's not necessarily towards you
directly to like get back at you. They

10022
03:14:42,870 --> 03:14:42,880
directly to like get back at you. They
 

10023
03:14:42,880 --> 03:14:44,389
directly to like get back at you. They
just don't believe in that sort of thing

10024
03:14:44,389 --> 03:14:44,399
just don't believe in that sort of thing
 

10025
03:14:44,399 --> 03:14:47,110
just don't believe in that sort of thing
in general cuz you know they're probably

10026
03:14:47,110 --> 03:14:47,120
in general cuz you know they're probably
 

10027
03:14:47,120 --> 03:14:49,590
in general cuz you know they're probably
super hyper analytical of it. And you

10028
03:14:49,590 --> 03:14:49,600
super hyper analytical of it. And you
 

10029
03:14:49,600 --> 03:14:51,349
super hyper analytical of it. And you
know what? Those are the type of people

10030
03:14:51,349 --> 03:14:51,359
know what? Those are the type of people
 

10031
03:14:51,359 --> 03:14:54,389
know what? Those are the type of people
that like maybe it's not worth trying to

10032
03:14:54,389 --> 03:14:54,399
that like maybe it's not worth trying to
 

10033
03:14:54,399 --> 03:14:55,910
that like maybe it's not worth trying to
get them to believe it. Maybe. I don't

10034
03:14:55,910 --> 03:14:55,920
get them to believe it. Maybe. I don't
 

10035
03:14:55,920 --> 03:14:57,910
get them to believe it. Maybe. I don't
know. I mean, sure, it'd be nice, but

10036
03:14:57,910 --> 03:14:57,920
know. I mean, sure, it'd be nice, but
 

10037
03:14:57,920 --> 03:15:00,229
know. I mean, sure, it'd be nice, but
No, I agree.

10038
03:15:00,229 --> 03:15:00,239
No, I agree.
 

10039
03:15:00,239 --> 03:15:02,469
No, I agree.
Yeah, it'd be nice, of course, but it's

10040
03:15:02,469 --> 03:15:02,479
Yeah, it'd be nice, of course, but it's
 

10041
03:15:02,479 --> 03:15:04,790
Yeah, it'd be nice, of course, but it's
not realistic. And I I acknowledge that,

10042
03:15:04,790 --> 03:15:04,800
not realistic. And I I acknowledge that,
 

10043
03:15:04,800 --> 03:15:09,110
not realistic. And I I acknowledge that,
you know, and if I were if I pretty much

10044
03:15:09,110 --> 03:15:09,120
you know, and if I were if I pretty much
 

10045
03:15:09,120 --> 03:15:11,830
you know, and if I were if I pretty much
put it on the line of everybody has to

10046
03:15:11,830 --> 03:15:11,840
put it on the line of everybody has to
 

10047
03:15:11,840 --> 03:15:13,830
put it on the line of everybody has to
believe me so I can heal, then I'm I'm

10048
03:15:13,830 --> 03:15:13,840
believe me so I can heal, then I'm I'm
 

10049
03:15:13,840 --> 03:15:15,910
believe me so I can heal, then I'm I'm
never going to heal. That's so true.

10050
03:15:15,910 --> 03:15:15,920
never going to heal. That's so true.
 

10051
03:15:15,920 --> 03:15:19,429
never going to heal. That's so true.
It's that good. Yeah. Well, I thank you

10052
03:15:19,429 --> 03:15:19,439
It's that good. Yeah. Well, I thank you
 

10053
03:15:19,439 --> 03:15:20,710
It's that good. Yeah. Well, I thank you
for sitting down and having this

10054
03:15:20,710 --> 03:15:20,720
for sitting down and having this
 

10055
03:15:20,720 --> 03:15:22,950
for sitting down and having this
interview with us. Um, I know that you

10056
03:15:22,950 --> 03:15:22,960
interview with us. Um, I know that you
 

10057
03:15:22,960 --> 03:15:24,309
interview with us. Um, I know that you
you're thinking that that this whole

10058
03:15:24,309 --> 03:15:24,319
you're thinking that that this whole
 

10059
03:15:24,319 --> 03:15:26,389
you're thinking that that this whole
interview style is like, you know, not

10060
03:15:26,389 --> 03:15:26,399
interview style is like, you know, not
 

10061
03:15:26,399 --> 03:15:27,590
interview style is like, you know, not
going to help you heal, but I at the

10062
03:15:27,590 --> 03:15:27,600
going to help you heal, but I at the
 

10063
03:15:27,600 --> 03:15:29,190
going to help you heal, but I at the
very least I hope like at least having a

10064
03:15:29,190 --> 03:15:29,200
very least I hope like at least having a
 

10065
03:15:29,200 --> 03:15:31,510
very least I hope like at least having a
conversation about it was comforting.

10066
03:15:31,510 --> 03:15:31,520
conversation about it was comforting.
 

10067
03:15:31,520 --> 03:15:32,950
conversation about it was comforting.
You know, I don't consider this really

10068
03:15:32,950 --> 03:15:32,960
You know, I don't consider this really
 

10069
03:15:32,960 --> 03:15:35,030
You know, I don't consider this really
an interview. I think I consider this a

10070
03:15:35,030 --> 03:15:35,040
an interview. I think I consider this a
 

10071
03:15:35,040 --> 03:15:37,349
an interview. I think I consider this a
nice conversation with the person

10072
03:15:37,349 --> 03:15:37,359
nice conversation with the person
 

10073
03:15:37,359 --> 03:15:41,670
nice conversation with the person
online. You know, if if I was quiet or

10074
03:15:41,670 --> 03:15:41,680
online. You know, if if I was quiet or
 

10075
03:15:41,680 --> 03:15:44,550
online. You know, if if I was quiet or
seemed off at all, uh, it's just late

10076
03:15:44,550 --> 03:15:44,560
seemed off at all, uh, it's just late
 

10077
03:15:44,560 --> 03:15:47,910
seemed off at all, uh, it's just late
and I've been up since 5:30. Dear Lord,

10078
03:15:47,910 --> 03:15:47,920
and I've been up since 5:30. Dear Lord,
 

10079
03:15:47,920 --> 03:15:51,510
and I've been up since 5:30. Dear Lord,
go to bed. And I'm just the quiet guy to

10080
03:15:51,510 --> 03:15:51,520
go to bed. And I'm just the quiet guy to
 

10081
03:15:51,520 --> 03:15:54,309
go to bed. And I'm just the quiet guy to
begin with. Yeah. Can I confirm Lazy and

10082
03:15:54,309 --> 03:15:54,319
begin with. Yeah. Can I confirm Lazy and
 

10083
03:15:54,319 --> 03:15:57,670
begin with. Yeah. Can I confirm Lazy and
I are the yappers? John John is not as

10084
03:15:57,670 --> 03:15:57,680
I are the yappers? John John is not as
 

10085
03:15:57,680 --> 03:15:59,990
I are the yappers? John John is not as
much. Yeah. There there's a reason that

10086
03:15:59,990 --> 03:16:00,000
much. Yeah. There there's a reason that
 

10087
03:16:00,000 --> 03:16:02,070
much. Yeah. There there's a reason that
Lazy's asking all the questions in these

10088
03:16:02,070 --> 03:16:02,080
Lazy's asking all the questions in these
 

10089
03:16:02,080 --> 03:16:05,910
Lazy's asking all the questions in these
things. I don't know when to shut up.

10090
03:16:05,910 --> 03:16:05,920
things. I don't know when to shut up.
 

10091
03:16:05,920 --> 03:16:06,910
things. I don't know when to shut up.
I

10092
03:16:06,910 --> 03:16:06,920
I
 

10093
03:16:06,920 --> 03:16:11,190
I
I really Thank you. I'm I feel great

10094
03:16:11,190 --> 03:16:11,200
I really Thank you. I'm I feel great
 

10095
03:16:11,200 --> 03:16:13,910
I really Thank you. I'm I feel great
about that. You know, I funnily enough,

10096
03:16:13,910 --> 03:16:13,920
about that. You know, I funnily enough,
 

10097
03:16:13,920 --> 03:16:15,510
about that. You know, I funnily enough,
before I decided to do the whole YouTube

10098
03:16:15,510 --> 03:16:15,520
before I decided to do the whole YouTube
 

10099
03:16:15,520 --> 03:16:17,910
before I decided to do the whole YouTube
thing, I was in college, right, during I

10100
03:16:17,910 --> 03:16:17,920
thing, I was in college, right, during I
 

10101
03:16:17,920 --> 03:16:20,229
thing, I was in college, right, during I
got I graduated high school in 2018. My

10102
03:16:20,229 --> 03:16:20,239
got I graduated high school in 2018. My
 

10103
03:16:20,239 --> 03:16:22,229
got I graduated high school in 2018. My
whole thought process when I went to

10104
03:16:22,229 --> 03:16:22,239
whole thought process when I went to
 

10105
03:16:22,239 --> 03:16:23,990
whole thought process when I went to
college, which was community college cuz

10106
03:16:23,990 --> 03:16:24,000
college, which was community college cuz
 

10107
03:16:24,000 --> 03:16:26,870
college, which was community college cuz
I'm poor, was I'm going to do two years

10108
03:16:26,870 --> 03:16:26,880
I'm poor, was I'm going to do two years
 

10109
03:16:26,880 --> 03:16:29,750
I'm poor, was I'm going to do two years
of community, use that two years to move

10110
03:16:29,750 --> 03:16:29,760
of community, use that two years to move
 

10111
03:16:29,760 --> 03:16:31,670
of community, use that two years to move
up to university and hopefully become an

10112
03:16:31,670 --> 03:16:31,680
up to university and hopefully become an
 

10113
03:16:31,680 --> 03:16:33,670
up to university and hopefully become an
art therapist. That was my big thing.

10114
03:16:33,670 --> 03:16:33,680
art therapist. That was my big thing.
 

10115
03:16:33,680 --> 03:16:36,309
art therapist. That was my big thing.
I've love talking to people about not

10116
03:16:36,309 --> 03:16:36,319
I've love talking to people about not
 

10117
03:16:36,319 --> 03:16:39,269
I've love talking to people about not
their trauma. That sounds weird, but I I

10118
03:16:39,269 --> 03:16:39,279
their trauma. That sounds weird, but I I
 

10119
03:16:39,279 --> 03:16:41,990
their trauma. That sounds weird, but I I
like, you know, getting people's stories

10120
03:16:41,990 --> 03:16:42,000
like, you know, getting people's stories
 

10121
03:16:42,000 --> 03:16:43,830
like, you know, getting people's stories
and like understanding how that might

10122
03:16:43,830 --> 03:16:43,840
and like understanding how that might
 

10123
03:16:43,840 --> 03:16:46,309
and like understanding how that might
affect how they are as a person. And I I

10124
03:16:46,309 --> 03:16:46,319
affect how they are as a person. And I I
 

10125
03:16:46,319 --> 03:16:48,229
affect how they are as a person. And I I
don't know. I'm I'm very hyper an

10126
03:16:48,229 --> 03:16:48,239
don't know. I'm I'm very hyper an
 

10127
03:16:48,239 --> 03:16:50,229
don't know. I'm I'm very hyper an
analytical about like human beings in

10128
03:16:50,229 --> 03:16:50,239
analytical about like human beings in
 

10129
03:16:50,239 --> 03:16:52,150
analytical about like human beings in
general because I think it's not

10130
03:16:52,150 --> 03:16:52,160
general because I think it's not
 

10131
03:16:52,160 --> 03:16:53,429
general because I think it's not
fascinating. Like I don't look at you

10132
03:16:53,429 --> 03:16:53,439
fascinating. Like I don't look at you
 

10133
03:16:53,439 --> 03:16:55,190
fascinating. Like I don't look at you
like a specimen. It's more so just like

10134
03:16:55,190 --> 03:16:55,200
like a specimen. It's more so just like
 

10135
03:16:55,200 --> 03:16:56,870
like a specimen. It's more so just like
I've been there, you know? It's nice to

10136
03:16:56,870 --> 03:16:56,880
I've been there, you know? It's nice to
 

10137
03:16:56,880 --> 03:16:58,550
I've been there, you know? It's nice to
talk to people who have been there and

10138
03:16:58,550 --> 03:16:58,560
talk to people who have been there and
 

10139
03:16:58,560 --> 03:17:00,309
talk to people who have been there and
like help them through that and it kind

10140
03:17:00,309 --> 03:17:00,319
like help them through that and it kind
 

10141
03:17:00,319 --> 03:17:02,550
like help them through that and it kind
of helps me be like, "Oh, you know, if

10142
03:17:02,550 --> 03:17:02,560
of helps me be like, "Oh, you know, if
 

10143
03:17:02,560 --> 03:17:03,990
of helps me be like, "Oh, you know, if
they can figure this [\h__\h] out, I can

10144
03:17:03,990 --> 03:17:04,000
they can figure this [\h__\h] out, I can
 

10145
03:17:04,000 --> 03:17:05,269
they can figure this [\h__\h] out, I can
figure it out for myself, you know, it's

10146
03:17:05,269 --> 03:17:05,279
figure it out for myself, you know, it's
 

10147
03:17:05,279 --> 03:17:07,830
figure it out for myself, you know, it's
it's very much like a community comfort

10148
03:17:07,830 --> 03:17:07,840
it's very much like a community comfort
 

10149
03:17:07,840 --> 03:17:10,309
it's very much like a community comfort
thing, you know. So, when that didn't

10150
03:17:10,309 --> 03:17:10,319
thing, you know. So, when that didn't
 

10151
03:17:10,319 --> 03:17:13,110
thing, you know. So, when that didn't
happen because of co uh I just started

10152
03:17:13,110 --> 03:17:13,120
happen because of co uh I just started
 

10153
03:17:13,120 --> 03:17:15,030
happen because of co uh I just started
doing this online, which is like trying

10154
03:17:15,030 --> 03:17:15,040
doing this online, which is like trying
 

10155
03:17:15,040 --> 03:17:17,750
doing this online, which is like trying
to be more empathetic towards people,

10156
03:17:17,750 --> 03:17:17,760
to be more empathetic towards people,
 

10157
03:17:17,760 --> 03:17:19,590
to be more empathetic towards people,
you know, because that's all I can do

10158
03:17:19,590 --> 03:17:19,600
you know, because that's all I can do
 

10159
03:17:19,600 --> 03:17:21,269
you know, because that's all I can do
now cuz all my dreams kind of went down

10160
03:17:21,269 --> 03:17:21,279
now cuz all my dreams kind of went down
 

10161
03:17:21,279 --> 03:17:23,030
now cuz all my dreams kind of went down
the toilet. But it's okay, you know, I'm

10162
03:17:23,030 --> 03:17:23,040
the toilet. But it's okay, you know, I'm
 

10163
03:17:23,040 --> 03:17:25,349
the toilet. But it's okay, you know, I'm
doing this now and it's it's it's nice

10164
03:17:25,349 --> 03:17:25,359
doing this now and it's it's it's nice
 

10165
03:17:25,359 --> 03:17:26,790
doing this now and it's it's it's nice
to be in a relationship that supports

10166
03:17:26,790 --> 03:17:26,800
to be in a relationship that supports
 

10167
03:17:26,800 --> 03:17:29,110
to be in a relationship that supports
it, you know. That's it's that's so

10168
03:17:29,110 --> 03:17:29,120
it, you know. That's it's that's so
 

10169
03:17:29,120 --> 03:17:31,910
it, you know. That's it's that's so
awesome. And having met people that I

10170
03:17:31,910 --> 03:17:31,920
awesome. And having met people that I
 

10171
03:17:31,920 --> 03:17:33,510
awesome. And having met people that I
was watching as a kid like 10 years ago

10172
03:17:33,510 --> 03:17:33,520
was watching as a kid like 10 years ago
 

10173
03:17:33,520 --> 03:17:35,030
was watching as a kid like 10 years ago
and now we're in a conversation now

10174
03:17:35,030 --> 03:17:35,040
and now we're in a conversation now
 

10175
03:17:35,040 --> 03:17:36,309
and now we're in a conversation now
we're all friends and I'm like what the

10176
03:17:36,309 --> 03:17:36,319
we're all friends and I'm like what the
 

10177
03:17:36,319 --> 03:17:40,710
we're all friends and I'm like what the
hell my life becoming this is really

10178
03:17:40,710 --> 03:17:40,720
hell my life becoming this is really
 

10179
03:17:40,720 --> 03:17:44,950
hell my life becoming this is really
nice you know cuz I get to be hopefully

10180
03:17:44,950 --> 03:17:44,960
nice you know cuz I get to be hopefully
 

10181
03:17:44,960 --> 03:17:46,389
nice you know cuz I get to be hopefully
more empathetic to people who really

10182
03:17:46,389 --> 03:17:46,399
more empathetic to people who really
 

10183
03:17:46,399 --> 03:17:48,389
more empathetic to people who really
need the empathy. That's the way I see

10184
03:17:48,389 --> 03:17:48,399
need the empathy. That's the way I see
 

10185
03:17:48,399 --> 03:17:52,269
need the empathy. That's the way I see
it. Um closing thoughts.

10186
03:17:52,269 --> 03:17:52,279
it. Um closing thoughts.
 

10187
03:17:52,279 --> 03:17:55,990
it. Um closing thoughts.
Um be nice to people. Stop being a

10188
03:17:55,990 --> 03:17:56,000
Um be nice to people. Stop being a
 

10189
03:17:56,000 --> 03:17:59,110
Um be nice to people. Stop being a
[\h__\h] That's the That's the end.

10190
03:17:59,110 --> 03:17:59,120
[\h__\h] That's the That's the end.
 

10191
03:17:59,120 --> 03:18:01,990
[\h__\h] That's the That's the end.
That's all I got. And Andrew, you got

10192
03:18:01,990 --> 03:18:02,000
That's all I got. And Andrew, you got
 

10193
03:18:02,000 --> 03:18:03,349
That's all I got. And Andrew, you got
anything you want to say? This is going

10194
03:18:03,349 --> 03:18:03,359
anything you want to say? This is going
 

10195
03:18:03,359 --> 03:18:04,790
anything you want to say? This is going
on your channel is probably going to be

10196
03:18:04,790 --> 03:18:04,800
on your channel is probably going to be
 

10197
03:18:04,800 --> 03:18:06,710
on your channel is probably going to be
the longest thing on your channel. Good

10198
03:18:06,710 --> 03:18:06,720
the longest thing on your channel. Good
 

10199
03:18:06,720 --> 03:18:09,590
the longest thing on your channel. Good
lord. Uh I don't have anything to say at

10200
03:18:09,590 --> 03:18:09,600
lord. Uh I don't have anything to say at
 

10201
03:18:09,600 --> 03:18:12,070
lord. Uh I don't have anything to say at
the moment, but I'll probably add like a

10202
03:18:12,070 --> 03:18:12,080
the moment, but I'll probably add like a
 

10203
03:18:12,080 --> 03:18:15,750
the moment, but I'll probably add like a
beginning, an intro and an outro

10204
03:18:15,750 --> 03:18:15,760
beginning, an intro and an outro
 

10205
03:18:15,760 --> 03:18:19,510
beginning, an intro and an outro
uh when I upload it. And I got to add in

10206
03:18:19,510 --> 03:18:19,520
uh when I upload it. And I got to add in
 

10207
03:18:19,520 --> 03:18:21,030
uh when I upload it. And I got to add in
the disclaimers. We're going to be talk

10208
03:18:21,030 --> 03:18:21,040
the disclaimers. We're going to be talk
 

10209
03:18:21,040 --> 03:18:23,910
the disclaimers. We're going to be talk
about some hard stuff and this and yeah.

10210
03:18:23,910 --> 03:18:23,920
about some hard stuff and this and yeah.
 

10211
03:18:23,920 --> 03:18:26,670
about some hard stuff and this and yeah.
Yeah, that kind of stuff.

10212
03:18:26,670 --> 03:18:26,680
Yeah, that kind of stuff.
 

10213
03:18:26,680 --> 03:18:29,030
Yeah, that kind of stuff.
Uh, I don't think I have anything to say

10214
03:18:29,030 --> 03:18:29,040
Uh, I don't think I have anything to say
 

10215
03:18:29,040 --> 03:18:31,670
Uh, I don't think I have anything to say
in the moment. Yeah, no worries, son.

10216
03:18:31,670 --> 03:18:31,680
in the moment. Yeah, no worries, son.
 

10217
03:18:31,680 --> 03:18:33,830
in the moment. Yeah, no worries, son.
It's been lovely chatting. Well, wait,

10218
03:18:33,830 --> 03:18:33,840
It's been lovely chatting. Well, wait,
 

10219
03:18:33,840 --> 03:18:36,389
It's been lovely chatting. Well, wait,
wait. Should I still call you son? I

10220
03:18:36,389 --> 03:18:36,399
wait. Should I still call you son? I
 

10221
03:18:36,399 --> 03:18:38,870
wait. Should I still call you son? I
don't know. You can you can call me Emmy

10222
03:18:38,870 --> 03:18:38,880
don't know. You can you can call me Emmy
 

10223
03:18:38,880 --> 03:18:41,910
don't know. You can you can call me Emmy
now. Yeah, we're past that. Yeah, fair.

10224
03:18:41,910 --> 03:18:41,920
now. Yeah, we're past that. Yeah, fair.
 

10225
03:18:41,920 --> 03:18:43,590
now. Yeah, we're past that. Yeah, fair.
Emmy, it's been lovely chatting with you

10226
03:18:43,590 --> 03:18:43,600
Emmy, it's been lovely chatting with you
 

10227
03:18:43,600 --> 03:18:46,309
Emmy, it's been lovely chatting with you
tonight and Oh, yeah. and and and

10228
03:18:46,309 --> 03:18:46,319
tonight and Oh, yeah. and and and
 

10229
03:18:46,319 --> 03:18:49,750
tonight and Oh, yeah. and and and
clearing a lot of this up. Yes. Thank

10230
03:18:49,750 --> 03:18:49,760
clearing a lot of this up. Yes. Thank
 

10231
03:18:49,760 --> 03:18:52,550
clearing a lot of this up. Yes. Thank
you. Yeah, no problem. Likewise. Thank

10232
03:18:52,550 --> 03:18:52,560
you. Yeah, no problem. Likewise. Thank
 

10233
03:18:52,560 --> 03:18:54,950
you. Yeah, no problem. Likewise. Thank
you. I hope that I wasn't so mean

10234
03:18:54,950 --> 03:18:54,960
you. I hope that I wasn't so mean
 

10235
03:18:54,960 --> 03:18:57,750
you. I hope that I wasn't so mean
throughout the course of any of this.

10236
03:18:57,750 --> 03:18:57,760
throughout the course of any of this.
 

10237
03:18:57,760 --> 03:18:59,910
throughout the course of any of this.
All right. No, you're totally fine. It's

10238
03:18:59,910 --> 03:18:59,920
All right. No, you're totally fine. It's
 

10239
03:18:59,920 --> 03:19:02,150
All right. No, you're totally fine. It's
okay. You want to stop the recording on

10240
03:19:02,150 --> 03:19:02,160
okay. You want to stop the recording on
 

10241
03:19:02,160 --> 03:19:04,550
okay. You want to stop the recording on
my end? And I'm I think I'm all set.

10242
03:19:04,550 --> 03:19:04,560
my end? And I'm I think I'm all set.
 

10243
03:19:04,560 --> 03:19:06,229
my end? And I'm I think I'm all set.
Before we finish, I want to hit you with

10244
03:19:06,229 --> 03:19:06,239
Before we finish, I want to hit you with
 

10245
03:19:06,239 --> 03:19:08,150
Before we finish, I want to hit you with
a couple of my own closing thoughts.

10246
03:19:08,150 --> 03:19:08,160
a couple of my own closing thoughts.
 

10247
03:19:08,160 --> 03:19:10,070
a couple of my own closing thoughts.
First, I think that I have to cover our

10248
03:19:10,070 --> 03:19:10,080
First, I think that I have to cover our
 

10249
03:19:10,080 --> 03:19:11,990
First, I think that I have to cover our
ass a bit. In the moment, people don't

10250
03:19:11,990 --> 03:19:12,000
ass a bit. In the moment, people don't
 

10251
03:19:12,000 --> 03:19:13,750
ass a bit. In the moment, people don't
always phrase themselves in the most

10252
03:19:13,750 --> 03:19:13,760
always phrase themselves in the most
 

10253
03:19:13,760 --> 03:19:16,550
always phrase themselves in the most
lawyer or PR friendly way. You heard a

10254
03:19:16,550 --> 03:19:16,560
lawyer or PR friendly way. You heard a
 

10255
03:19:16,560 --> 03:19:17,990
lawyer or PR friendly way. You heard a
couple of minutes ago Lazy Bedhead

10256
03:19:17,990 --> 03:19:18,000
couple of minutes ago Lazy Bedhead
 

10257
03:19:18,000 --> 03:19:19,349
couple of minutes ago Lazy Bedhead
stated that we were quote unquote

10258
03:19:19,349 --> 03:19:19,359
stated that we were quote unquote
 

10259
03:19:19,359 --> 03:19:21,269
stated that we were quote unquote
working with Emily. That's not a

10260
03:19:21,269 --> 03:19:21,279
working with Emily. That's not a
 

10261
03:19:21,279 --> 03:19:23,190
working with Emily. That's not a
phrasing that I myself would have used

10262
03:19:23,190 --> 03:19:23,200
phrasing that I myself would have used
 

10263
03:19:23,200 --> 03:19:24,710
phrasing that I myself would have used
and I knew as soon as she said it, I had

10264
03:19:24,710 --> 03:19:24,720
and I knew as soon as she said it, I had
 

10265
03:19:24,720 --> 03:19:27,110
and I knew as soon as she said it, I had
to put in some kind of disclaimer. So,

10266
03:19:27,110 --> 03:19:27,120
to put in some kind of disclaimer. So,
 

10267
03:19:27,120 --> 03:19:30,070
to put in some kind of disclaimer. So,
let me clarify. Emily Jones was not

10268
03:19:30,070 --> 03:19:30,080
let me clarify. Emily Jones was not
 

10269
03:19:30,080 --> 03:19:32,070
let me clarify. Emily Jones was not
allowed into the investigation server at

10270
03:19:32,070 --> 03:19:32,080
allowed into the investigation server at
 

10271
03:19:32,080 --> 03:19:34,469
allowed into the investigation server at
any time. There was always information

10272
03:19:34,469 --> 03:19:34,479
any time. There was always information
 

10273
03:19:34,479 --> 03:19:37,190
any time. There was always information
that we kept from her and she never had

10274
03:19:37,190 --> 03:19:37,200
that we kept from her and she never had
 

10275
03:19:37,200 --> 03:19:40,309
that we kept from her and she never had
any direct input on our findings or the

10276
03:19:40,309 --> 03:19:40,319
any direct input on our findings or the
 

10277
03:19:40,319 --> 03:19:42,950
any direct input on our findings or the
video. We did outright tell her things

10278
03:19:42,950 --> 03:19:42,960
video. We did outright tell her things
 

10279
03:19:42,960 --> 03:19:44,790
video. We did outright tell her things
like issues that we had with her story

10280
03:19:44,790 --> 03:19:44,800
like issues that we had with her story
 

10281
03:19:44,800 --> 03:19:46,750
like issues that we had with her story
and we gave her a chance of explaining

10282
03:19:46,750 --> 03:19:46,760
and we gave her a chance of explaining
 

10283
03:19:46,760 --> 03:19:49,429
and we gave her a chance of explaining
herself. And certain members of the

10284
03:19:49,429 --> 03:19:49,439
herself. And certain members of the
 

10285
03:19:49,439 --> 03:19:51,550
herself. And certain members of the
investigation team did express their

10286
03:19:51,550 --> 03:19:51,560
investigation team did express their
 

10287
03:19:51,560 --> 03:19:54,870
investigation team did express their
sympathies. That is what we meant by

10288
03:19:54,870 --> 03:19:54,880
sympathies. That is what we meant by
 

10289
03:19:54,880 --> 03:19:58,070
sympathies. That is what we meant by
working with Emily. I told her directly

10290
03:19:58,070 --> 03:19:58,080
working with Emily. I told her directly
 

10291
03:19:58,080 --> 03:20:00,309
working with Emily. I told her directly
on call that I'd let the facts stand

10292
03:20:00,309 --> 03:20:00,319
on call that I'd let the facts stand
 

10293
03:20:00,319 --> 03:20:03,030
on call that I'd let the facts stand
where they may. And even beyond that, if

10294
03:20:03,030 --> 03:20:03,040
where they may. And even beyond that, if
 

10295
03:20:03,040 --> 03:20:05,269
where they may. And even beyond that, if
there was outand-out definitive proof

10296
03:20:05,269 --> 03:20:05,279
there was outand-out definitive proof
 

10297
03:20:05,279 --> 03:20:07,429
there was outand-out definitive proof
that Emily was lying, I would let it be

10298
03:20:07,429 --> 03:20:07,439
that Emily was lying, I would let it be
 

10299
03:20:07,439 --> 03:20:08,950
that Emily was lying, I would let it be
known to the wider public. The

10300
03:20:08,950 --> 03:20:08,960
known to the wider public. The
 

10301
03:20:08,960 --> 03:20:11,030
known to the wider public. The
investigation team knew of Emily's

10302
03:20:11,030 --> 03:20:11,040
investigation team knew of Emily's
 

10303
03:20:11,040 --> 03:20:13,190
investigation team knew of Emily's
controversies, at least in theory,

10304
03:20:13,190 --> 03:20:13,200
controversies, at least in theory,
 

10305
03:20:13,200 --> 03:20:14,790
controversies, at least in theory,
before the three of us directly

10306
03:20:14,790 --> 03:20:14,800
before the three of us directly
 

10307
03:20:14,800 --> 03:20:17,110
before the three of us directly
confronted her about them. My first and

10308
03:20:17,110 --> 03:20:17,120
confronted her about them. My first and
 

10309
03:20:17,120 --> 03:20:19,910
confronted her about them. My first and
only loyalty here is to the truth. So,

10310
03:20:19,910 --> 03:20:19,920
only loyalty here is to the truth. So,
 

10311
03:20:19,920 --> 03:20:21,990
only loyalty here is to the truth. So,
and interested in keeping things as fair

10312
03:20:21,990 --> 03:20:22,000
and interested in keeping things as fair
 

10313
03:20:22,000 --> 03:20:24,389
and interested in keeping things as fair
as possible, I will also give another

10314
03:20:24,389 --> 03:20:24,399
as possible, I will also give another
 

10315
03:20:24,399 --> 03:20:27,190
as possible, I will also give another
obligatory reminder that all parties are

10316
03:20:27,190 --> 03:20:27,200
obligatory reminder that all parties are
 

10317
03:20:27,200 --> 03:20:29,269
obligatory reminder that all parties are
innocent until proven guilty in a court

10318
03:20:29,269 --> 03:20:29,279
innocent until proven guilty in a court
 

10319
03:20:29,279 --> 03:20:32,309
innocent until proven guilty in a court
of law. Sabers Spark included. I myself

10320
03:20:32,309 --> 03:20:32,319
of law. Sabers Spark included. I myself
 

10321
03:20:32,319 --> 03:20:34,309
of law. Sabers Spark included. I myself
am not making any statement on whether

10322
03:20:34,309 --> 03:20:34,319
am not making any statement on whether
 

10323
03:20:34,319 --> 03:20:36,469
am not making any statement on whether
the allegation is true or not. At the

10324
03:20:36,469 --> 03:20:36,479
the allegation is true or not. At the
 

10325
03:20:36,479 --> 03:20:37,830
the allegation is true or not. At the
same time, I promised this would be

10326
03:20:37,830 --> 03:20:37,840
same time, I promised this would be
 

10327
03:20:37,840 --> 03:20:40,550
same time, I promised this would be
uncensored and I am not going to stop

10328
03:20:40,550 --> 03:20:40,560
uncensored and I am not going to stop
 

10329
03:20:40,560 --> 03:20:42,389
uncensored and I am not going to stop
members of the investigation team from

10330
03:20:42,389 --> 03:20:42,399
members of the investigation team from
 

10331
03:20:42,399 --> 03:20:44,389
members of the investigation team from
stating what they believe. Now, in

10332
03:20:44,389 --> 03:20:44,399
stating what they believe. Now, in
 

10333
03:20:44,399 --> 03:20:46,389
stating what they believe. Now, in
interest of fairness and in interest of

10334
03:20:46,389 --> 03:20:46,399
interest of fairness and in interest of
 

10335
03:20:46,399 --> 03:20:48,229
interest of fairness and in interest of
being unbiased, I would recommend that

10336
03:20:48,229 --> 03:20:48,239
being unbiased, I would recommend that
 

10337
03:20:48,239 --> 03:20:50,309
being unbiased, I would recommend that
you see both SaberSpark's response video

10338
03:20:50,309 --> 03:20:50,319
you see both SaberSpark's response video
 

10339
03:20:50,319 --> 03:20:52,469
you see both SaberSpark's response video
yourself and Beckett's video on the

10340
03:20:52,469 --> 03:20:52,479
yourself and Beckett's video on the
 

10341
03:20:52,479 --> 03:20:54,229
yourself and Beckett's video on the
matter from the channel Cope and Sea.

10342
03:20:54,229 --> 03:20:54,239
matter from the channel Cope and Sea.
 

10343
03:20:54,239 --> 03:20:56,309
matter from the channel Cope and Sea.
That video gets interviews with Casey,

10344
03:20:56,309 --> 03:20:56,319
That video gets interviews with Casey,
 

10345
03:20:56,319 --> 03:20:58,790
That video gets interviews with Casey,
Michelle Kber, and Cla Corlet and goes

10346
03:20:58,790 --> 03:20:58,800
Michelle Kber, and Cla Corlet and goes
 

10347
03:20:58,800 --> 03:21:00,950
Michelle Kber, and Cla Corlet and goes
into details about things that I didn't

10348
03:21:00,950 --> 03:21:00,960
into details about things that I didn't
 

10349
03:21:00,960 --> 03:21:03,750
into details about things that I didn't
in my investigation video. Between these

10350
03:21:03,750 --> 03:21:03,760
in my investigation video. Between these
 

10351
03:21:03,760 --> 03:21:05,990
in my investigation video. Between these
three videos, you'll get a statement on

10352
03:21:05,990 --> 03:21:06,000
three videos, you'll get a statement on
 

10353
03:21:06,000 --> 03:21:08,070
three videos, you'll get a statement on
the issue between almost everyone

10354
03:21:08,070 --> 03:21:08,080
the issue between almost everyone
 

10355
03:21:08,080 --> 03:21:10,070
the issue between almost everyone
involved. I will also remind you that

10356
03:21:10,070 --> 03:21:10,080
involved. I will also remind you that
 

10357
03:21:10,080 --> 03:21:13,190
involved. I will also remind you that
this interview here is merely a section

10358
03:21:13,190 --> 03:21:13,200
this interview here is merely a section
 

10359
03:21:13,200 --> 03:21:15,830
this interview here is merely a section
in my investigation video. The purpose

10360
03:21:15,830 --> 03:21:15,840
in my investigation video. The purpose
 

10361
03:21:15,840 --> 03:21:18,550
in my investigation video. The purpose
of all of this wasn't to shoot down

10362
03:21:18,550 --> 03:21:18,560
of all of this wasn't to shoot down
 

10363
03:21:18,560 --> 03:21:20,710
of all of this wasn't to shoot down
Saber Spark or anything like this. The

10364
03:21:20,710 --> 03:21:20,720
Saber Spark or anything like this. The
 

10365
03:21:20,720 --> 03:21:22,790
Saber Spark or anything like this. The
purpose of doing all of this was to give

10366
03:21:22,790 --> 03:21:22,800
purpose of doing all of this was to give
 

10367
03:21:22,800 --> 03:21:26,150
purpose of doing all of this was to give
Emily a fair shake. Fairness. Either the

10368
03:21:26,150 --> 03:21:26,160
Emily a fair shake. Fairness. Either the
 

10369
03:21:26,160 --> 03:21:28,950
Emily a fair shake. Fairness. Either the
allegations are true or they're not. And

10370
03:21:28,950 --> 03:21:28,960
allegations are true or they're not. And
 

10371
03:21:28,960 --> 03:21:30,630
allegations are true or they're not. And
if the allegations are false, you could

10372
03:21:30,630 --> 03:21:30,640
if the allegations are false, you could
 

10373
03:21:30,640 --> 03:21:33,269
if the allegations are false, you could
call KP's video karma. But there is the

10374
03:21:33,269 --> 03:21:33,279
call KP's video karma. But there is the
 

10375
03:21:33,279 --> 03:21:35,429
call KP's video karma. But there is the
chance that the allegations are true.

10376
03:21:35,429 --> 03:21:35,439
chance that the allegations are true.
 

10377
03:21:35,439 --> 03:21:37,349
chance that the allegations are true.
And on the chance that they're true,

10378
03:21:37,349 --> 03:21:37,359
And on the chance that they're true,
 

10379
03:21:37,359 --> 03:21:39,190
And on the chance that they're true,
Emily should be able to get the chance

10380
03:21:39,190 --> 03:21:39,200
Emily should be able to get the chance
 

10381
03:21:39,200 --> 03:21:41,510
Emily should be able to get the chance
to speak on the matter detached from

10382
03:21:41,510 --> 03:21:41,520
to speak on the matter detached from
 

10383
03:21:41,520 --> 03:21:43,510
to speak on the matter detached from
surrounding drama. And on the chance

10384
03:21:43,510 --> 03:21:43,520
surrounding drama. And on the chance
 

10385
03:21:43,520 --> 03:21:45,510
surrounding drama. And on the chance
that they're false, you should hear what

10386
03:21:45,510 --> 03:21:45,520
that they're false, you should hear what
 

10387
03:21:45,520 --> 03:21:49,279
that they're false, you should hear what
every person has to say on the matter.

