Christian Chan, Mama Max, Onision. Oh
my, what
[Music]
the Okay, let's listen to this
interview. This interview is kind of
long. We'll get through this interview.
I don't know if we can read the document
today, but let's do this. So, this is an
interview that KP does with Slug
Entertainment about the allegations
against Sabers Spark. And I'm going to
be totally real with you guys, I have
like no [\h__\h]
idea what the Sabers Spark even did.
Like to my understanding, Saber, at
least in in regard to like Chris um
because apparently Saba Spark didn't
even know that this was like something
that Chris had done, like a joke that he
had told her convers I I don't know.
Okay, so we're we're going to let them
explain it to us. Okay, we're going to
let we're going to let this interview
go. Let's see how Slug Entertainment Oh,
Saber didn't fire him. Okay. Uh yeah,
for a joke that was made in what like
forever
ago when he wasn't even working for
Saber Spark that Sabers Spark didn't
even know about. Okay.
Okay. Okay. So, this is an interview
about Saber Spark allegedly knowing
about Chrising on the clothes, but that
actually never [\h__\h] happened. And
then he admits that he never told Saber
Spark about this. And then because Saber
Spark didn't know, KP is mad at Saber
Spark because Saab Spark did not fire
him even though he didn't even award for
Saber Spark when this allegedly
happened. Okay, got it. Let's go. Yeah,
I feel pretty bad. Um, for those playing
at home, um, I don't Have you Have you
introduced what a Saber Spark is? Like
how how far are we going? I feel like I
feel like I'll introduce what a Saber
Spark is kind of naturally throughout
this entire
From what I've been able to kind of
gather, you are also an art YouTuber,
animator of sorts. Do you critique
animations as well? Mhm. Yeah. Do my own
art. I I can animate. Um don't use those
those skills often enough on my own
YouTube channel. But um everybody does
it for free. I'm sorry, but no one
really cares about that. Um but yeah, u
made a video turned out really badly. Um
everyone's clowning on me on Twitter, so
I'm just here solely to like give. I
like how the interview that she did was
on a 30 sub YouTube channel so nobody
would see this. I do like that. Look
guys, I took accountability. Look guys,
I apologize for my terrible handling of
this situation. That could have been
something reallying serious where people
were actually genuinely in danger. Um,
but here I apologize on a 30 sub YouTube
channel. And listen, no hate to my boy
Slug Entertainment. He's out here
grinding. I see I think he's he's
grinding, okay? He's doing his best. All
right, I love and support this guy. But
like, come on. Come on. There were Why
don't Why not uh do a video on like June
the King's platform? you got him to do a
voice over for your video. Did he know,
first of all, did he know what that
voiceover was for? And secondly, if you
wanted to apologize and take
accountability, I'm sure June would love
to do that on his what million
subscriber YouTube channel, almost a
million subscriber YouTube channel. I
don't know, guys. Don't love it. And
validation to the victim. And you know,
I'm not interested in anyone coming
coming here to kiss my ass or anything.
I just Yeah, I have cuz I'm coming in
completely blind on this. So, this isn't
like a Oh, I'm going to Oh god. He
doesn't know anything about it, so he's
just going to trust everything that she
says. And mind you, I still don't know a
ton about all this, but he's Oh, no.
give you leeway on a lot of stuff. It's
just I'm going to ask you a few
questions, such as because there was
this tweet kind of by Brony.
Um, oh, this is the allegations against
Saber Spark that came out like literally
a day or two before KP published her
video and then she decided to just throw
this in at the last second. Um, this is
allegations from 2011 where allegedly
Saber Spark like made out with this
person in an elevator and that it was um
under coercion because Saber Spark was
like a really big YouTuber and this
person was 18 years old and at the time
um Saber Spark was four or five years
older. Um I there to my understanding
there hasn't been anything else put out
about these allegations. Um, I'm not I'm
not comfortable saying like whether or
not these alleg I'm not interested in
speculating on whether or not this
person is lying or if the allegations
are real or not. The only thing that I
think is important to call out is that
this was thrown into the end of KP's
video is like, "Aha, [\h__\h] you. I knew
that you were a piece of [\h__\h] to kind of
get like the leg up on Saber Spark in
the entire situation without really even
verifying any of these claims." and it
seems like the wrong medium to kind of
air out your, you know, your secret
hidden nuke of sexual assault
allegations in order to bolster your own
hit piece. That seems really
inappropriate to me. Um, I think
somebody else said at my chat the best,
it's like, I don't want to talk about,
you know, or discredit that this may or
may not have happened. Um, however, the
medium in which this was communicated
and used to bolster an already shitty
hit piece was not appropriate, and
that's what I'm more concerned about.
Maybe more information will come out and
this is totally legit. Maybe information
will come out and this is totally fake.
I don't know. To my understanding, there
is um there is no more information other
than this one tweet thread. Um to my
understanding, this is an anonymous
account um from 2011 from somebody who
met Sabers Spark at a convention in 2011
when Saber Spark was three or so three
or four years older than them. So, I
don't know if there's been any new
developments on this,
but nonetheless, this was half-hazardly
thrown in. And that is my biggest
criticism is that this was just thrown
in there, right? Fondant involving
allegations of Saber Spark allegedly
being a pedophile. And I'll be digging
into those allegations and allegedly
being a pedophile. And this person um
was
18. I don't know if there's additional
allegations that we'll get to, but I
think like somebody, what is that? Four
years older. 18 1920 21 22 22 is 22 and
18 is, you know, could be sus, could be
fine. And I guess it depends on the
dynam the dynamic in the situation, but
I don't know if like somebody like
making moves on an 18-year-old makes
them a pedophile. That's kind of a
stretch, but okay. Right after to
clarify, um to clarify, um the victim
was 18. So
So my knowledge, yeah, from what I've
seen, a majority of this is being
painted as if there is pedophilia. Um so
to your knowledge, what are the
allegations from your Yeah. Why the
would you say that like somebody making
a move on an 18-year-old makes them a
[\h__\h] pedophile? What are you talking
about? The internet has ruined
everyone's brains and their capacity to
think or perspective as the person who
made the video. Um the allegations is
that Saber
um by coor coorse consent basically
someone. So um I worked with the victim
pretty directly throughout all this. I
helped them write the testimony that was
on Twitter.
Ooh, that
is that is not good. Um, this I think is
a mistake on like 27 differenting
fronts. The first being is that this
person's credibility as a victim is now
damaged because KP admits that she
helped the victim write the statement
knowing good and well she was going to
include this in her hit piece. Dude, she
she waited for this little nugget of
information to throw in at the end of
her hit piece and she helped the victim
write this. That's that's bad. That is
bad. That is reallying bad. That damages
the credibility of the victim like
pretty significantly if KP is the one
that helped write
this. And additional question, how did
KP come into contact with this person?
Did this person seek her out? Did KP
seek this person out? Like how were they
introduced? how did they start
interacting with each other. This looks
not good, dude. This looks not good. Um,
gave feedback, stuff like that, but you
know, did not write it for them to be
clear. Um, and yeah, there were two
incidents that were covered in the
testimony. One is they're both from My
Little Pony conventions. This is before
that before the time I was going to My
Little Pony conventions, just to be
clear. So, none of these incidents
happened when I was even that active in
the fandom, I guess. Um, so this is all
focusing on someone being allegedly
raped at a convention just to kind of
simplify it. Yeah. Um, two different
conventions.
So this was multiple in alleged
instances of rape. So how how did you
verify this information where you give
this is
slug? This guy is from Mama Max's
community. Hold the [\h__\h] phone. What
do you mean from Mama Max? Back up. Back
up. Back up. Back up. Back up. Back up.
Back up. How the is this guy related to
Mama Max? He was Mama Max's editor,
dude. Oh my god. Chrischan, Mama Max,
Saber
Spark. What's going on, guys? Onision.
Christian Chan. Mama Max. Onision. Oh
my. What the [\h__\h] dude? I'm crashing
out. I'm crashing out. given evidence
such as like proof of being in contact,
proof of of him even being with the
victim. Also, this music is a little too
peppy for me the time, right? Um, so a
lot of it was um um so basically how the
order of events happened is um I was
planning on covering Saber anyway
because something that got lost in the
video um was that Saber had a editor on
staff who had sexually harassed me in
the past. And what do you mean it got
lost in the video? That was like the
whole that was the first like an hour of
the video. What do you mean?
Um didn't seem like he was willing to do
anything about it and then when it
started to become like well because he
apologized and was like that was [\h__\h]
up my bad and he didn't even work with
Sabers Spark and Saberspark didn't even
know about it by I'm crashing out. 2024
when it started to become um go on
Twitter and his other company made a
statement. Saber was blaming me for not
telling him directly when I had um proof
that he knew about it. Um, and I was the
one who said, "Was the proof ever
shared, guys?" Uh, linkers, linkers in
chat. Was proof ever shared that Saber
Spark knew about this? Anywhere?
Anybody? Anybody know? Anybody aware?
Anybody have a conscious thought that
there was evidence provided that Saber
Spark knew that this happened? Even Even
if, let's just pretend that Saber Spark
did know. There's a literal recording of
Chris saying, "Sorry, my bad. I
shouldn't have done that." And then he
didn't do it again.
You want him to and feathered and
crucified and exiled into the wilderness
for 100 days and 100 nights over a
mistake that he made years ago that
heing apologized for that happened when
he didn't even work for Saber. What the
[\h__\h] He only claims to have contacted
people who so it was all redacted in the
[\h__\h] Okay, that's really helpful. I
don't give a [\h__\h] I'm getting mad. I'm
getting mad. I'm crashing
out. Everybody chill. Maybe Said she
emailed Sab about it, but I don't think
he saw all the emails. Yeah, that
doesn't mean [\h__\h] And if I listen, if I
got an email like the one that KP showed
on in her video, like the 7,000 [\h__\h]
word longer than the Lord of the Rings
book [\h__\h] ass email, I would spam
that [\h__\h] immediately. No way. You open
up an email and the scroll bar is this
big. That's going right into spam, dude.
Hell no. What the [\h__\h] is happening?
Please. The information through his
team. Um, so I guess he was just trying
to, it seemed like posturing to me from
what I read and I asked him several
times to DM me. He did not. Um, called
me names, did not like um then, um, it
escalated to I emailed him um, per his
request, asked him for a public apology
for calling me names. He did not want to
give me the public apology. um brought
up some other allegations that I won't
go into um here as well, but nothing as
serious as as he's going to play War
Zone.
He's going to play War Zone for his rape
review. Oh my god. What the [\h__\h]
Obviously. So, before we continue, do
you have valid evidence? And if so, are
you willing to at least show Boomer the
evidence? Congratulations. I don't have
valid evidence. No, I have. And he's got
his [\h__\h] alerts on, dude. I'm going
to [\h__\h] cry. So, I I keep
interrupting. I apologize. So, you Let
me rephrase the question. Do you have
valid evidence of what you are claiming
Saber Sparks editor did to you? Oh, yes.
Yes. We have him on record admitting to
it. Are you able to provide that
evidence? I won't show it unless you're
comfortable with it, but I want to at
least be able to verify that this stuff
exists. Gotcha. Yeah. Um, we covered um
this a while ago, so um yeah, so this is
also discussed in the video. So, let's
see if she's honest about this. Um, we
did a safety report on Chris because
Chris, we also found instances of Chris
being um unsavory around children. So,
that was a big no no. Okay. Do you feel
comfortable with me reading through this
on stream or do you want to keep it till
your video? Um, no, you can read it.
It's it's a public safety report, so
it's it's been publicly available for
like um a year, two years at this point,
I'm remembering. Okay. So, I'm wanting
to at least make sure that there's
evidence in
terms of how I view it. This is just a
lot of words and not a lot of more
showing. You know what I mean? True. Get
her. True. Um let's see. What is this?
Oh lord. I So it's an incident of It's a
record of the incident and then it has
um a recording of him admitting to it. I
also have screenshots of Oh, and he's
not going to listen to it. The Chris
Everfree 2015 bathroom event video.
That's his admission. And he's not going
to listen to it, I bet. Okay. And then
the clearing misinformation. Um, I
believe this would be
between Chris and DA both come forward
in this document. Um, yeah, Faber, we we
don't really have a status at this time
except um, so I Okay, this is dumb. I
want evidence that Saber Spark knew. I
want evidence that Saber Spark knew. And
even if you can show me that Saber Spark
did know about
this, if he saw the recording where it
was admitted that this was like a stupid
[\h__\h] joke that was obviously
inappropriate, but he apologized for it
and didn't do it again, then like, what
do you want? What do you want after the
fact? I'm I'm so irritated by this
already. I'm already so [\h__\h] pissed
off because he's not going to listen to
the recording and he doesn't know how it
was framed in her video because in her
video it's framed that he actually
literally did this action. Not that it
was not that they were discussing like
whether or not he did tell the joke.
It's presented like he actually did the
thing that he was joking about. I I I'm
going to crash the [\h__\h] out watching
this. I don't think so. Um, but yeah,
the only thing I'm able to access is the
clearing miss info, but not the
additional Google document. So, okay,
that I'll I'll verify all this stuff
outside of this. Oh my god, bro. No.
True before I even say any of it is true
or not, just for pure objectivity.
Objectivity. Now, to kind of circle
back, well, this [\h__\h] be lying. We're
here for objectivity while she lies.
Okay. To the to the current situation
involving Saber Spark and the video that
you deleted. So, how did you what
evidence did you receive from the
alleged victim that was able to verify
the claims?
Um, it's it's based on two things
mostly. I also um was friends with Saber
um around 2015 or so. So, a lot of the
things that she described matched
characterization of him for at least my
my perspective of it. Um so, hearing I
knew of them, but I didn't know um I
didn't really have any kind of
relationship with them. And um when I
tal like so the video was mostly
complete at this point. Um and then uh I
was talking about it in my fan server
and Bonk who runs the brony fand Twitter
um mentioned that additional he had
someone additional who wanted to come
forward about Saber and so he got Amy to
contact me. This is Amy New who's
tweeting about the victim.
Yeah. I reached out to her on Blue Sky.
I have not received any response and
that's completely fine. Yeah. But um but
she she's she's known the victim for a
long time. I have not. So, um so that's
how we got in contact and then I talked
to them directly um from that and we
just kind of compared um her I mean
obviously hers is much worse than mine
but um you know Savior making me
uncomfortable to that obviously it's
like there's no comparison but as far as
characterization everything seemed to
fit um timelines of their own activity
in the fandom seem to fit. There was
video evidence of you know when they
were this is this is just it's stupid.
It's like I verified this because it
sounded similar to the way that I knew
that he had been in like the past to
levy
allegations that this guy is in
fact a
rapist. What? I know that this guy is a
rapist because the vibes were the same
as when I knew him years ago. What? Come
on. Really? Really? Oh my god. Active in
the fandom. Um, and um, that's I think
that's all I can really say without
giving away other details. Yeah. So,
just to be as objective as possible
here. So, what you're saying is that
basically the evidence that you were
given was more personal circumstance and
hearsay rather than like objective
evidence. Oh my god. We didn't have any
Skype logs or So, you just were like,
"Fuck it. We're blowing the rape
whistle. [\h__\h] it." Because the vibes are
right. That's
Dude, why not
wait why not wait to like talk about
this at all until there's like
substantial information because you
[\h__\h] this royally, dude. Like beyond
more comprehension than I ever could
have [\h__\h] dreamed of. Because not
only do you admit that you quite
literally threw out these allegations
that Saber Spark is a rapist based on
vibes, but you also helped the victim
write their their thing. You helped the
victim write this knowing good and well
that you were hoping to make a hit piece
on Sabers Spark. Conflict of interest,
ethics, professionalism. I'm not I'm not
well. um anything because of how long it
was ago when and we did ask. So, okay.
So, at that point when it comes to this
in our conversation you mentioned there
was a let me at least scroll up. Um the
victim and less on the shitty victim.
So, what did you mean by that? Wait a
day a minute. What was that? Hang on. I
missed that. Hang on. In our
conversation, you mentioned there was a
Let me at least scroll up. Um the victim
and less on the shitty victim. So, what
do you mean by that?
Let me find where you're where you're
quoting. Um Um Yeah. So, yeah, I I
understand what you're asking. So, the
video is, you know, I I I was blindsided
by it, so I'm just kind of processing
it. But what do you mean you were
blindsided by it? You literally made the
video. I was blindsided by the video
that I made for months. How long was she
working on this video? Months, right? It
was like 6 months or something. I was
blindsided by it, guys. I had no idea
that this video essay that I was working
on for the better part of a year, it
just blindsided me. What? But um for
those who are unfamiliar with my
content, we put a lot of memes in
between to help the flow in the comic of
the video. So we were just kind of doing
But you didn't do that for your Lily
Orchard video and that was good. That's
why everybody liked that video.
Everybody liked the Lily Orchard video
because it had a serious tone because it
was serious [\h__\h] I can't take this
anymore. Automatically with this video
didn't realize it was tonedeaf until
after it was uploaded and people their
concerns and I took it down pretty
immediately after that um to be retoled.
Um, so but I don't really want it's more
important to be talking about this the
testimonies of of both Saber and the DA
Games victims and not Well, nobody's
going to be talking about [\h__\h] other
than how bad you biffed it. That's the
problem. The problem is that if these
were serious allegations, which to my
understanding, I mean, I I don't see any
reason other than the fact that KP
literally [\h__\h] helped this [\h__\h]
write her own [\h__\h] testimony. That's
insane. That's insane. Other than that,
again, I don't want to speculate whether
or not something bad happened to this
person that came forward. You know, if
something did if something bad did
happen, God bless him. If KP manipulated
this person into giving testimony that
was embellished or overstated, [\h__\h] you,
KP. I don't know yet. The truth will
come out. It always does. It eventually
will. And we will all see God's healing
light in a short time, I'm sure.
Nobody's talking about the testimony.
Nobody is talking about the victims.
Nobody is talking about any of that [\h__\h]
because you [\h__\h] it up. You [\h__\h] it
up. You [\h__\h] it up. You [\h__\h] it up.
That's why nobody's talking about it.
And nobody's going to talk about it
because you ruined it. You ruined it.
You stepped inside of the porta potty
and [\h__\h] [\h__\h] all over the inside of
the porta potty. You whipped your dick
out and helicopter pissed inside of the
portaotty and then you were like, "Oh my
god, the portaotties are so unhygienic."
It was you, bro. It was you,
bro. Dude, I'm crashing out. I'm
crashing out so much about how how
shitty victim the video is. I get it at
this point. I I get it. Okay. So, do you
get it? Just so I'm able to at least try
and sanity check it a bit. So the only
evidence that has been given in a sense
is hearsay just more testimony rather
than yes like stuff that is correct
purely objectively there if that makes
sense. To my knowledge. Okay. Wanted to
at least verify that. Now in terms of to
my knowledge you're supposed to be the
insider dude. To my knowledge you're the
one that's supposed to have all the
inside hot goss. You're supposed to have
the scoop. You're the one that got the
guess the alleged victim. If you were,
how do I word this? So, if you were to
say that this is something that needs to
be taken with the utmost seriousness
despite no evidence, why wouldn't you?
Um, do you believe that it would be fair
for people to disregarded entirely due
to the lack of actual evidence? He's
being so nice for no reason. Okay. I
wanted to at least ask that given the
fact that these are serious allegations
that can get Saber killed because people
are crazy and I'd rather not have
someone get killed over an allegation
that has not been proven beyond a shadow
of a doubt. Uh, yep. Yeah, that's that's
fair. So, on top of that, you know the
victim at least know the victim well
enough to speak out for them. What do
you mean by that?
Um, I guess I like we had conversations
they approved of. And this is kind of
hyperbolic, but this is true. False.
Like truthfully, honest to God because
this was done based on vibes and all
that other [\h__\h] And I'm going to
reiterate for the eenth time. For the
eenth time, it is like I don't really
want to talk about like if these are
real allegations or not because that's
not the question. The question is did KP
mishandle the entire [\h__\h] thing and
blow this [\h__\h] up based entirely on
vibes. Yes, she did. Because there's no
there's nothing other than this
testimony that she helped write and
that's a problem. However, if these are
if you're claiming that somebody is like
a rapist, like an actual unironically
like they [\h__\h] rape somebody, that's
pretty [\h__\h] dangerous because that
person could like kill themselves based
on your vibe check, your illicit vibe
check. That person could be like, "Holy
[\h__\h] my life's over." And then just
[\h__\h] end it. That's kind of [\h__\h]
scary and kind of a big deal. Or there
could be some We guys, this is the Brony
fandom. This is the Brony fandom.
They're all crazy. They could just like
suicide bomb this guy's [\h__\h] house
based on vibes. That's That's
terrifying. That's terrifying. What the
[\h__\h] dude? What the [\h__\h] That's
nuts. Well, based on my vibe check at
the time. Unreal, bro. Unreal. The
video. Um, for the record, they they
they did watch the whole video before it
was uploaded and they approved it. Um,
multiple people did. So, I didn't that's
why I was like, "Oh, well, the victim's
final." Uh, who approved it, dude? You
didn't ask anybody. the the people that
did like the audio recordings and [\h__\h]
like the voiceovers, they didn't know
what the [\h__\h] that was for. They just
blindly were like, "Yeah, dude. I'll do
a voiceover for you." Okay. Who who
watched the video? Who watched the video
and was like, "Yeah, this looks good."
Lio
convoy, that's your beacon. That's your
beacon. You asked Chrischan if it looks
sick as [\h__\h] And Chris Chan was like,
"Curs, it looks great." Kim Possible, my
good friend. Dude, I'm going to I'm
going to I need to calm down. I need to
calm down. I don't I don't see what the
problem is, guys, because I'm dumb. Um,
but I
mean, they they're Amy has publicly
stated that they're not well right now.
Um, so I thought I'd jump in and try to
kind of put the focus back more on the
testimony than the video, I guess. But
like I feel like I know them well enough
from talking with them that, you know, I
can just vouch personally and say I
believe in the the test. I've talked to
them a couple of times back and forth on
Discord, so I can vouch that their vibes
in fact are correct. Cool, dude. The
money based on talking to them as much
as I have. We're hinging We're hinging
literal allegations of rape on vibes. I
love that. Great. Okay. Have you
received any other evidence such as like
even a screenshot or call log or
something of that sort aside from the
conversation or the or the testimonial?
Comment. No comment.
Um, no. But, um, I do I will add I
remember hearing whispers of this like
Oh, I remember there were rumors [\h__\h]
10 years ago. It not even What is that?
That's 14. I remember 14 years ago
hearing the voices in the walls [\h__\h]
tell me that after I had been on a meth
bender for six [\h__\h] days that the
voices in the walls told me that Saber
Spark was a rapist
like five six years ago, but I didn't
really have like of of something maybe
happening, but I didn't really have
enough information to really uh You
still don't you still don't. It was just
kind of like rumory kind of thing. So
when I So like chronologically, I guess
when the victim came forward and talked
about source, it came to me in a dream
what had happened. And I was like, "Oh,
I vaguely remember something like this."
So, um, vaguely
remember, your honor. I vaguely
remember. Oh, god. I guess that also
helped me, too. Yep. So, in your eyes,
this has been an ongoing open secret of
an alleged thing with no evidence. How
is it an open secret? What are you
talking about? Discussed within certain
members of the of the the old brony
community, I guess. Put it Put it that
way. So, and none of those [\h__\h] could
corroborate it. So, if if people were to
dig a little bit deeper, would there be
anything that could prove these or is it
just again the whole thing of it's all
hearsay? There might be footage of them.
I Is there any evidence that uh your
Excuse me. Um to the defense, is there
any evidence that my client killed and
cannibalized your client? Well,
possibly. Maybe. Is it possible that
your cat maybe reincarnated Hitler?
Well, technically. I mean, yeah, I guess
anything's possible, right? And he might
be I don't know. He might be Hitler. I
don't know. I don't know that they
mentioned or they the conventions
themselves weren't mentioned themselves,
but um you know, that's something that
would be likely if they were to um you
know, convey what conventions uh what
incidents occurred. Okay. So, the that's
up to them. Okay. So, you do not know
the exact conventions if that's how I'm
understanding what you said.
I do, but the the victim didn't want to
share them. Okay. I just Dude, what is
this? It's It's like not It's not 2019
anymore. You can't just be doing this
[\h__\h] dude. Especially if you want to
make well thoughtout hit pieces. You
can't just be like, "Well, I don't know.
This is what I was told, but I have no
way to corroborate this." Like you Okay.
So, would it be possible to at least um
know the time as in like the more exact
time rather than the stuff provided in
their thing here such as 2013 or 2012
201 Yeah, I'm not going to give you I'm
not going to give you anything more than
what's on the testimony. I'm sorry. Oh,
that's completely fine. I at least
wanted Here's the other thing, too, and
I said this when we first went over all
this [\h__\h] If this did happen, which it
may have. All things are possible
through Christ who compels us. If this
did happen, they don't need dates,
times, the convention, anything like
that. Saberspark knows exactly who this
is. If this happened, Sabers Spark knows
who it is. Like, did anybody think this
through? Did anybody stop and think for
like two [\h__\h] seconds about this?
Anybody? Anybody? If you're accusing
somebody of a very specific crime, a
very specific time zone at a very
specific location with ages
included, obviously, if this did happen,
Sabers knows exactly who this is. It
doesn't matter if you want an he knows.
It's about covering your own ass. Had to
ask. Yeah. No, I don't want to do
anything that might jeopardize the
victim's anonymity because that's really
important to them. So So I got to ask at
that point, why the hyperfocus on the
anonymity
cuz they're afraid they're going to get
harassed by Saber fans, which is fair
based on how everyone's treating me. So
all that t again, all that takes is
Saber Stark being like, I know who this
is and this [\h__\h] is lying. That's all
that takes. I don't I based on how the
video's um you know not doing so which
is I feel like is very very valid.
So like I I do got to at least say
looking at it the video itself does not
seem to hold a lot of water on their
allegations which may not sound cuz this
is just off our combo. I'll be watching
the video after our conversation. He
hasn't even watched the [\h__\h] It seems
more like this is someone coming out
without the ability to really prove any
of it. Um you could say I mean you know
you could say it that way um because it
happened so long ago cuz it's also fair.
Go ahead. Cuz it's also like hey Saber
could also turn around and sue this
person for defamation if there's no
evidence. Yes. Great point. Great point.
Great point. And
again, if this did happen, I mean, th
this just adds to the idea that this was
kind of like halfass and thrown on at
the end. Again, just sitting here
pondering my orb. Okay, the reason that
it might be kept anonymous is because if
the person comes out, they could be sued
for defamation for just saying [\h__\h]
which is possible. Okay, all things are
possible through Christ confess. But
like again, did nobody think this
through? Because if this again, if this
is something that actually happened,
this person's [\h__\h] anyway because Saba
Spark knows exactly who it is. Like I I
don't know what to say. That can hold up
in a court of law. Andre and like
looking out for the alleged victim and
everyone else involved. The fact that
there's no evidence to this is very
concerning. Yeah.
Yeah. Um those those were discussed, but
the victim still wanted to come forward.
So Okay. That was their choice. Okay,
that's fair. That's fair enough. Yeah,
dude. I'm going to get so many views on
my YouTube video, everybody will know
your story. Oh. Oh gosh. So when you
were given these, I guess testimonials
or at least story of what was alleged to
have happened, how did you verify the
claims such as did you ask them for like
their proof of like, hey, I was here.
Here's photographic evidence of me and
him or me and him talking or
um I I didn't have anything like that.
This was purely off trusting
Oh my
god. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Oh my
god, dude. I'm
I feel like you guys that play this
game, I don't even know what this
[\h__\h] game is. I feel like you guys
are crashing out the way that I'm
crashing out listening to this. This is
crazy. This is crazy. This was optical
suicide. Her word based on what I knew
um or their word based on what I knew
about them at that point.
Okay. Were there other people that went
in to verify these claims or were there
other attempts to verify the claims
being made?
Um not to my knowledge. Um I believe I
don't know the history of um Blanc's um
relationship with the the victim itself.
I don't know to what extent he knew
about everything before um the statement
was prepared. Um but I do know I do know
that Amy um was vouching for them and
that was also um because I knew Amy was
on or has been on the convention scenes.
That's how she met um Peter knew her
husband. Well, my friend said that it
was totally true. So
So that also uh so before this I this
question leaves my very smooth brain.
Um, who is Bonk? Bonk is the person who
runs the Brony Fan Twitter. Okay. Wanted
to at least know that. So, so Bonk is
heavily involved in this.
Um, again, I don't know his relationship
with the victim. I don't know if he Do
you know anything, KP? Like, I think Amy
introduced them. I'm not sure. Um, all I
know is that when everyone was f was was
satisfied with the test with the
testimony, then I gave a copy to to Bonk
and to Sophie to put up in correlation
with the video. Okay. So, I'm I'm going
to be as blunt as possible with this
just off of our conversation and given
that the video is deleted as well. This
was a really bad choice. I don't think I
feel like these allegations may not hold
water under extreme scrutiny. Like, uh,
yeah, that's valid. Yeah, because valid.
I'm I'm a YouTuber. I've been falsely
accused of things before and I've also
[\h__\h] up stories before and this kind
of stuff is very important to try and
get right. So the fact that there is no
evidence provided aside from testimony
is very it's concerning pretty dangerous
if that makes sense. Yes. Great. I
understand your perspective. So Mhm. Oh
gosh. That kind of wraps up a lot of the
questions that I had because that's all
the questions. There's [\h__\h] 40
minutes left of this. What's going to
happen? pretty much those are the only
questions that I have. Yeah, to my
knowledge, the only thing I think could
be uh provable is their attendance at
the conventions where this happened, but
that will obviously show their face and
um you know, I don't even think they're
comfortable having people know which
which conventions it the incidents were
at which is valid. So, you know, that is
hypothetically in the realm of evidence
that I can think of, but that's on the
victim to make that call. Okay. So,
yeah. See, told you no gotas were going
to come up.
I mean, you did ask tough questions. You
were you were very like you asked tough
questions. Yes, KP, you accused someone
of rape. There should be tough questions
like where the [\h__\h] did you get this
information? How did you verify this
information? And when the answer is m
vibes, yeah, that's going to be a pretty
hard question to answer. [\h__\h] Oh my
god. You know, are you sure you believe
this person? It wasn't just like an oh
you know like I want to believe this
person because like you know um
people think I have this vendetta
against Saber and I don't like him but
the um the driving incident for me was
his mishandling of um Chris and then his
but oh here we go. So to kind of I guess
to build on that it build on it. So that
in itself really Okay, Brianna Woo let's
go. I like this guy. Let's go. Hang on.
Uh though
this is me watching this video. He does
kind of raise some concerns over the
credibility of you making the video. You
know what I mean? Yeah, that's fair.
Because like you were you already had a
negative perception of him. So, yes,
it's pretty understandable why people
would be like, "Oh, this person has X,
Y, or Z against Saber." Yeah, I
understand. Well, that's why we that's
one of the reasons I have all these
things against Saber Spark. I literally
[\h__\h] hate this guy. But you have to
trust me. Like, I I totally verified
this. I just can't talk. I totally did.
It's not that I hate him. Swear we chose
to put it on Twitter first so it would
be separate from the video itself. So
but you they they dropped allegations
the same day that you put out the
[\h__\h] video. You guys literally like
corresponded. You guys literally planned
it together. You were doing like [\h__\h]
falling domino hit piece roulette. What
are you talking
I'm Wow. I need to relax. Let's have a
drink. people didn't think like I made
it up because I, you know, I'm so
vindictive that I'm going to make up a
right testimony to to to ruin someone's
career because like I feel like it like
I think he should have handled the Chris
situation much better. I think like
Chris's conduct like so this is all
documented just just so you know, feel
free to check my notes later, but yeah,
I'll check the Google document that you
sent. Yeah. So yeah, so there's other
documentation of Chrisaring
inappropriate um uh material to minors
um in the form of um um Yeah, I'll just
leave it at that. Um, so before we
before we get off that point, you do
have you made a police report. I'm
guessing you're not in the US. I am in
the US for for the Great question. Great
question. Great question. Obviously,
anybody who uh doesn't know me, this
whole like I didn't report because AAB
[\h__\h] I don't give a [\h__\h] about. Okay,
if somebody is out there raping,
molesting, pillaging, plundering, any of
that [\h__\h] report it. Okay, even if you
say, "Malcolm, the system is broken.
What's the point?" The point is is that
there is a paper trail. That there is a
paper trail. That at some point
something is going to happen and they
can look back and say, "Oh, this was
reported. Oh, this is something that
happened." Always report it. Always
report it. Okay? I don't want to hear
any of this, "Oh, cops are bastard
shit." Okay, fine. You win with your gay
stuff. All cops are bad. That's totally
[\h__\h] fine. Okay? You can still report
to other organizations. You don't have
to report to 911. There's other places
that you can report. There's other
avenues to use, okay? But you should
always be reporting this [\h__\h] Always.
Okay? It's really important for
documentation purposes. It's really
important to make sure that there is a
paper trail of people doing bad things
to other people. That way people are
aware. Okay. Yes. Okay. All cops are
bad. Whatever. Okay. Doesn't matter. We
should still be reporting [\h__\h] Okay. It
leaves a paper trail. It leaves a paper
trail. Say it with me. It leaves a paper
trail. And that is what is important.
But HR is important, too. Everybody's
like, "HR doesn't do anything." Okay,
that's fine. Whatever. Cry about it.
That sucks. So sad. Okay, great. There
is a paper trail. There is a paper
trail. I reported this on this date at
this time to this person. They knew it
was happening and something happened
anyway. That gives you justification to
blow [\h__\h] up in public. Okay? Your first
step isn't to blow [\h__\h] up in public for
your [\h__\h] YouTube channel. That is
not your first option. There are like 27
different options that we should look at
before we decide to do the press [\h__\h]
nuclear arms race to destroy my YouTube
career button. Kim, the victim or for
Chris? involving Chris because that's an
allegation of basically child
endangerment or things of that nature.
Um I guess um the the Chris stuff was
all documented well before I was on the
scene. So I made the assumption that if
people tried to do something about it,
it would already been done. So the the
the DA game so this is all Wait a
minute. Now
I guess um the the Chris stuff was all
documented well before I was on the
scene. So I made the assumption that if
people tried to do something about it,
it would have already been done. the the
the DA game. So, this is all within his
DA game stuff after again before I came
on the scene. So, I can give you like a
really comprehensive document on that.
Uh I would appreciate a document on that
as well. Yeah. Yeah. Um I'll I'll get
that for you in a second. Um Oh, it's on
my Twitter. I put on Twitter. Cool. Um
cool. But yeah, to it was my assumption
that something was already made. And
then even on top of that um like working
with Courtney as much as not as much as
I do but like you know kind of in that
space I know criminal get reports
against things on the internet are you
know dodgy at best. Okay but it wasn't
over the internet like this was
something that happened in real life now
like you guys were at the convention
together when this allegedly happened or
whatever the [\h__\h] Like does this guy
know that Chris actually just told a
joke that he didn't actually like
sexually harass or like sexually assault
her? Does he know? Well, I guess you
could say that joke is technically
sexual harassment, so I resend that
comment. But like, does he know that
Chris didn't actually jizz on her [\h__\h]
Does he know that? Does he know that? I
hate that this guy didn't watch the
video beforehand. I hate that this guy
didn't watch the video. I hate it, dude.
I [\h__\h] hate it. Also, love Publio.
Let's go, Pablo. Far as believability as
far as if they're going to be followed
through, like I just remember um the
mismanagement of the Toon Critic
situation. I was never personally
involved with that, but that just rings
a bell. So, um there you go. There's the
the video games one. Awesome. Let me put
that in my sources server. I like to at
least source anything I reference on
stream or in videos. Yeah, of course.
So, so just to kind of recap, so whether
or not you want to correct any of your
past statements. So, overall, given
everything that you've told me, this
situation has just been built off of
hearsay outside of malicious intent.
Yeah, I I suppose like it's just
believing similar to the the Black
Griffin stuff. It's believing the victim
at face value. Why the [\h__\h] are we
talking about Black Griffin again? Um I
don't know if you're familiar with that
case. Um but then they were forced to
become anonymous and then Griffin's um
sent her a cease, I believe. So um you
know, but I can I can definitely
understand people's um hesitancy towards
it, but based on everything I know about
Saber as someone who Saber has been
interested in romantically in the past,
like this all Oh, well, he just wanted
to [\h__\h] me. So it always comes back to
that. It's always I'm wanting to get
[\h__\h] I'm just so sexy and hot.
Everybody wants to [\h__\h] me. Lines up
with my experiences. if that means
anything. Okay. I appreciate your input
and I'm I'm glad you were able to come
in and have a combo. Hope you have a
great day. Are we going to do the [\h__\h]
where uh she doesn't say bye for another
half an hour? Is that what's going to
happen here? Yeah. Thanks for having me.
Have a good rest of the time, guys. No
problem. Bye-bye. Oh, wow. Okay. I'm
just eating my [\h__\h] today, aren't I?
That was a pretty interesting
conversation. Now, okay. Where's Kitten
Far? Is there anything else in here? Is
there anything else worth talking about
in here or is this pretty much it? Does
he just watch the video for the rest? It
looks like he's reading everything. I
don't really give a [\h__\h] about this
guy's commentary on it. Is there
anything else in here? Kitten fart. Oh,
wait. I don't know what the two
microphone setup is about now that you
mention it. I'm not quite sure what
that's about. I don't know. I don't
know. It's an interesting choice. Yeah,
dude. I don't I don't [\h__\h] know. This
her doing this too was just a really bad
choice doing an interview like this
because she she admits that she helped
the victim write their own testimony. I
think that's crazy. She has to know how
bad that looks, right? She has to know
what a mistake that is, right? Anybody
please? She has to know that's a
terrible choice, right? She has to
realize that,
right? She has to, guys. She has to.
This whole thing is so [\h__\h] up,
dude. And it keeps getting worse. It
keeps getting worse. Like, every single
[\h__\h] time I learn something new about
the situation, it gets worse. I don't
know why she thought like, this would be
this would be my my advice.
Go away for a while. Like dead ass. Just
like log off. Be done.
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