[Music]
Hello. Hello.
Sorry, chat.
I know it's been a while. Last stream
didn't exactly go according to plan, and
I'm sorry for that.
Things just got uh
it got a little too real. I'm so sorry.
Um
I have to laugh cuz I'm going to bust
out crying. I just
Hold on. Hi, chat.
Things haven't been going well. Um,
I just wanted to start this right away
because I've been a hot mess. Um,
chat, I don't know how else to tell you
guys this. Um, we've kind of experienced
the death. Um, in the lazy bed, lazy
after dark show. Um,
I've lost the bubble gun. The battery
had died. I don't know where the charger
is. So, my bubble gun is dead.
It's and I'm a hot mess. I I had the
whole stream and it was such a disaster
the last stream. I was trying to tell
you guys then, but no, the bubble gun
has died
and I'm such a I'm just such a mess
right now, guys.
I don't know where the charger is. It's
like one of those re rechargeable ones.
So, as soon as the battery died, the
whole thing just died. And I don't I
don't know what to do about it.
I just I'm not I I wasn't expecting
it to just die on me. Like, who does
that?
How am I supposed to be the bubble
priest now? You know what I mean? It's
so inconvenient. But like, anyway,
the stream is here around ruined. It's
ruined. I don't know what to do. So, I
guess
I've just been mourning the last couple
of days, you know? It feels like I've
lost like an arm or something. thing.
It's like there's a part of me that's
like missing.
And I know that like the bubble gum
meant so much to all of you. Um so
that's why it's so sad and I I wanted to
dedicate a part of the stream, this
stream anyway, to honoring the bubble
guns memory. There were so many
memorable moments just within the past
month with this gun. And
I'm sorry.
I just I just don't know what I'm gonna
do. I really don't.
I'm I'm so upset. That was like the
whole bit. That was the whole thing,
right? Thank you for the super chats.
Thank you so much. God knows I need them
said with the tune, not the bubbles out
there that I know. I'm sorry, guys. I
don't I don't know how else to say it,
but we can't do bubble chat anymore. We
can't do bubble go. I am no longer the
bubble priest. My precious gun has died.
is what I would be saying
is what I would be saying, chat.
That's what I would be saying if I was a
[\h__\h] ass [\h__\h]
But fortunately,
my mother didn't raise me to be a [\h__\h]
My mother raised me with the audacity.
and people with the audacity.
Now, those are dangerous people, chat.
Those are incredibly
innovative,
innovative, innovative human beings. I'm
not giving up just yet. This is a step
back, but you guys know me. I always
come up with a solution. Always.
And so my grand solution to our dead gun
problem
was of course
to double up.
I mean it was only a matter of time
right Chad. Are you ready?
My grand solution
was to buy two
I am back, baby.
I've got the two of them. Yeah.
[Laughter]
Anyways,
turn that off. Hello, chat. How are we
doing?
[Laughter]
Oh, that went better than I thought it
would.
I am a genius. I am a cinematic
masterpie. I am a cinematic freaking
genius.
Chat, we're back. I should move the
camera over a little bit. Hold on.
Chat, we're back.
How do I sound chat? I would like to
take personal credit for pushing Lazy to
stream and make this bad as possible.
That's funny as [\h__\h]
Somebody clipped that. Anyway, thank you
Opinionator with 199. Here's two bucks
for dealing with KP double bubble.
Oh, [\h__\h] That's really funny.
I see Pinkerton coming up. Thank you. Or
Pinkerton. Pinkerton. The [\h__\h] Pinker.
Of course. Thank you, Pinker with the
five. Bubble chaos for the bubble gods.
Absolutely.
Oh, I wanted to do that last stream, but
of course everyone knows what happened
the last stream. It didn't happen
because [\h__\h] me.
How do I sound chat? Do I sound good?
You sound good. Oh, Crimson's here. Hey,
Crimson. What's up, Lord Rush with the
two? Hell yeah.
Guys, did you think Also, I think the
Oh, God damn it. Did the bowl Oh, the
goal is set at a
Hold on. I need to reset that goal now.
I need to reset that goal because
apparently it wasn't set to all. My bad.
No,
it wasn't set to all colors. Whoopsie.
It's okay. It's fine.
Uh, hold on. Let me let me see how I
sound. Actually,
the ears are gone. This feels so weird
with the [\h__\h] elf ears on. You can't
even see them.
All right. Wait, hold on a second. Wait
a second. Okay.
Yeah, I sound okay. I I sound a little
just a little scuffed because I'm trying
out some new um filters on the mic so
that I don't sound terrible. Uh but you
know,
hello Finn. Imagine having life goals,
honestly. So true.
Ah, boot a cat with the 199. Put the
frogs in the bag. JKP.
Oh, chat, chat, chat, chat, chat, chat.
I can't hear the notifications anymore.
Um, here. Wait, hold on.
Yeah, for some reason it's not coming
through my uh thing. Echo with 109 for
the evolution of the bubble pulp. Thank
you. I'm so excited. Look at what I get
to do now, chat.
[\h__\h] awesome, dude. I can't believe
it. That's [\h__\h] sick.
Ta Taylor Nian with the five. Hi, Lazy.
Have you seen KP's most recent post to
her community tab? To her community tab?
Okay. No, I might have to check that
out. Hi, Enter. Good to see you guys.
Wes is here as well. I see Maddie came
in pretty early on, so that's good.
Hello. Hello.
I sent you a DM for pain. Tell Andre I
said hi when he finds out. Are you Was
it the same thing that you said, Becket?
cuz I'm not sending that to him.
What did you send me? What?
Oh, what is this?
Bye.
Bye, did you just send me Courtney Pete
content? The Pete tent. Did you?
Tonight's going to be interesting.
Tonight's going to be so interesting.
I'm going to take the ears off though
cuz this hurts.
Chat,
before we get into it,
before we get into it. Oh, chat. Chat,
chat, chat. Chat.
Before we get into it. Do you guys like
my hat? Huh? Who likes my hat? Do you
like my hat? Cuz I like my hat. I think
my hat's pretty cool. Hold on.
That's why
we got the store. Who's excited for the
store? Who's excited for the store? I'm
excited for the store. It is coming in
two days. Two days
store.
I need to move the camera. Wait, wait,
wait. Where's my webcam? Cuz it's
showing the the dark corners of my room.
Mac with some cheese. With some fives.
Thank you, Mac with some cheese. Show us
your cat. I need a pickme up after my
washing machine leaked into my dining
room. That sucks. I will grab them
later.
I promise they will be here.
Sid with the two. Wait, what the [\h__\h]
Oh, whoopsie. Yo, the stream seion's
crazy.
Sorry. H Sid with the two. Hey, Lazy. Do
you see Bonk's latest crash on blue sky?
No. Someone send that to me. We're going
to go over everyone today, chat.
Oh my god. Okay, first of all, can I get
monitoring on the alert box, please, so
I can at least hear when I get a [\h__\h]
notification? That'd be great. Thank
you.
Oh, [\h__\h] chat. I'm so happy that that
cinematic opening went about as well as
I as I needed it to go. I am such a
thematic theater kid. You don't even
know. Anyway,
also I am doing this all in a brand new
setup because uh Streamlabs decided to
[\h__\h] off. So, I guess welcome to OBS
era, lazy bed head, I suppose. Anyway,
oh god, we have a lot of people here
today. Thank you guys so much for being
here. I know that the last stream was a
bit hectic and then we had to cancel it
because it didn't work out. Um, but I'm
glad that everybody's here. I'm glad
that I can be here with all of you. You
guys are all my favorite people.
Also, I should be um make sure I get
this out of the way, too. I forgot to
mention this. Um, but when it comes to
the the store coming up, right, the
store, um, anybody who is a part of the
Patreon, once the store um, finally is
up and ready and open for business, once
the store is out, um, I'm going to send
out something on Patreon exclusively for
my members that will give you guys
discount codes on the store. So, if
you're at a $1 tier, you can get a 10%
discount off of um, your entire
purchase, including shipping. And if you
are in my $5 tier, you get 20% off. So
that's because I love you and you guys
are already giving me money monthly. So
you guys might as well get a little bit
a little bit of an important discount
shopping with me. So I'm so excited for
that to come out. I'm so excited for it
because I've been working so hard on
this website and I was so happy when
Fourth Wall reached out to me, by the
way, not the other way around. Um,
hi Dashy. How are you? Hello.
So, chat.
Oh jeez. I didn't think this day would
come to be completely honest with you
guys. I didn't think we would actually
end up here. I look like I got [\h__\h]
weirdass sideburns. The [\h__\h] Anyway,
uh anyway,
I didn't think this would happen. I
didn't think we would get here. Um not
because the stream was crashing the
other day. I didn't think that this
the events that have been happening were
actually going to happen the way that
they have happened as of recently. For
those of you who aren't aware, um all of
the familiar characters have crawled out
from under their rocks to release final
statements. Uh more specifically KP. And
I'm not sure what I was expecting
because, you know,
I see me and KP in very in a very
similar situation, me with having to
release the bonk conspiracy, the measure
of response that like I don't want to be
too harsh, right? And I get that that's
coming from me, the nicest person in
commentary who's overly nice to [\h__\h]
everybody. Um,
what is this? Oh, somebody actually sent
it to me. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you, Gaming Throgue. Okay,
but like
I I'm gonna try to do this stream being
a little more helpful because I know
that uh Beckett's already made his video
which we're going to watch today, but
also I'm aware that Falgi was,
you know, clowning on it as you should.
Now, I should make this very
transparently honest. I have at least
watched this through live streams, but I
felt like that um as somebody who's been
who who sees KP and I'm like I've been
in that position, right? I I understand
having to address something when you get
a story wrong and having to come out and
be like, "Hey guys, this is my bad kind
of thing." Like again, the measured
response was ha me having that same shoe
on my foot not too long ago. So, I don't
want to [\h__\h] like stomp all over KP's
[\h__\h] little whatever this is because
maybe it does come from a sincere place.
I don't really know. Um,
but I'm not going to do this alone
obviously. Um, because why would I? I
love my friends. And so, I'm gonna make
a phone call.
I'm gonna make a phone call.
I'm gonna make a phone call. Anthony.
Anthony,
my headphones aren't on.
Why are my headphones off? What the hell
is happening? Why can't I hear anything?
Okay.
All right.
>> Hear you at all.
>> Okay. I can now hear you. Okay. My
headphones are stupid. I don't know how
these work.
>> All right. Cool. Cool. Cool. Wasn't sure
it was acting up mine for some reason.
No, it was me, I think.
>> Oh, it's your fault then. You're the one
at fault. I see how it is.
>> Okay, we can blame you then. Excellent.
It's not nothing on my end then.
>> Sure you. Sure you, Anthony.
>> People can Can we hear Ant? All right.
>> Hold on.
>> All right. Cool. Cool. I wasn't sure.
>> It's very entertaining.
>> Okay.
So people can hear you. That's all I
care about. That's all.
>> That's fair enough. That's fair enough.
>> So, do I need to introduce myself or uh
>> Please do. Well, I will read the super
chat first because I like money.
>> Got to go for it.
>> Money is good. Money. Money takes
priority. Don't worry about that. I got
you.
>> Mostly with the five pounds. Hi, I've
read KP's pose. Uh video wouldn't hold
people's attention. What the [\h__\h] I
need to see whatever this community post
is that people are talking about.
>> Opinionated opinionated with the 199.
Good to hear you, Anthony G. Guys, isn't
it fun? So interesting that he's here.
>> I mean, given everything that's
happened.
>> Jesus Christ.
>> To be fair, it was [\h__\h] what was it?
Me not being in KP's camp or anything,
but like no talking to her first and
then having him be like, you know, [\h__\h]
talking or whatever the [\h__\h] Uh,
Phineas, I can let you on in a second. I
guess I'm just doing a one-on-one call,
but I could start up like a a group chat
to bring you in like
>> Yeah, Phineas is cool. I'm I'm done with
talking to Phineas.
I know you guys have been talking a lot.
Thank you.
>> I need to see what the [\h__\h] everyone's
screaming at me about, I suppose.
>> Oh, it's bad. Oh, it it's uh it's a
rough one.
>> Do tell the audience who are not
familiar with you who you are.
>> Yes. Hello. My name is uh Anthony
Gumoleia. I am a uh video essayist,
video producer guy, writer. I do things
on the internet and people get mad at me
sometimes. So, it all works out. such as
uh Courtney apparently.
>> Dude, we just got some Courtney tent,
too. I can't wait to show you.
>> Oh my god, I I am genuinely curious. I
have no idea what this is with Courtney
cuz
>> Okay, do we start with Courtney first?
>> Uh maybe that only because I'm sure
whatever it is, it will not factor into
the KP thing cuz that one factors in
directly with her apology.
>> I agree. I think we should start with
Courtney first because it is short and
sweet and uh pretty insane and to the
point as Courtney normally is.
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. She's nuts,
unfortunately.
>> Yeah. Well, what's funny is that before
any of this whole KP thing came off. Oh,
Meet Man with a two, by the way. I'm
sorry. You guys are crazy with these
donos, man. Thank you. KP is just one
video away from winning. Whining or
winning?
>> I think winning.
>> Both. Both.
All right, let me add my source here. I
need to
>> Yeah, I'm just adding in some uh I'm
adding in some Angry Orchard here. I
bought the uh Jason
>> Well, they had some Jason Vohees
branding and I'm like I don't like Angry
Orchard, but like there's some Jason on
it.
>> I got to get some I got to get some I
got to get this has Jason on it. I have
to drink it.
>> Absolutely. Also, prepare for the bubble
and make a double gorilla fan with the
two. Echo with the 99 and with that chat
that is goal
first of the night.
[Music]
>> I'm so glad I got figure uh OBS figured
out to all do all of this cuz when I was
originally trying to figure it out, it
was such a pain in the ass. I'm like
this is the worst streaming setup ever.
I hate this.
>> Yeah, OBS is not userfriendly, but it's
so much better than Streamlabs. I
didn't. Oh, okay. Stream did everything
built in. This didn't. I had to put so
many plugins. I'm so upset.
>> No, Chad.
>> Well, that that's why OBS is better. You
have more capabilities, but it's also
like you have to figure out how to do
it. That's the problem.
>> No. Yeah, exactly. It was such a
learning curve. I was like, I'm going to
kill myself. I'm going to crash out. I'm
going to crash out.
>> That's what I started with.
>> Chat, what do we do? Do we do one or
two? Do we do one or two, chat? Hm. H I
feel like two needs like a bigger
challenge. You know what I mean? I feel
like you guys need to donate me more
money to get two.
>> Yeah, build up to two. Two should really
be goal. Actually, maybe goal four at
this rate. You're probably going to
break it.
>> I don't think I need to explain to
Anthony what the bubble baptism is. I
think you've watched enough streams at
first.
>> Yes. Yes. It's It's This is like when
you open the box in Hellraiser and the
chains come out and you uh
>> Oh my god. All right, chat.
Congratulations. You met the first
bubble goal of the night very very early
on. Thank you so much. Here is the
bubble baptism.
I love this so much. I have to cover all
of my boyfriend's streaming, all of my
boyfriend's computer equipment so that
none of the bubbles ruin his [\h__\h]
>> It may destroy it if you shoot it
directly into it.
>> I'm not shooting directly into it. I'm
shooting up in the air, but my computer
is up above my desk. So there's not like
a place.
>> Does he have any resin? Does he have any
Magic the Gathering cards or resin like
D20s like right next to the desk? Cuz if
so, those bubbles are going to like
damage the [\h__\h] out of it.
>> No. No. Although we do have Magic the
Gathering cards that he or his dad gave
us or whatever the hell Echo. Thank you.
>> You guys cut up to two. I have to make
to a challenge.
I got the the Bloomberg Magic cards here
and it has all like Red Wallesque
artwork and I'm feeling like wow I got
to read Red Wall again. It's totally
random but that's my ADHD brain brain
for you.
>> All right, chat.
Let's talk about this brief thing that
Fali sent me. Yay.
Here it is.
>> Lazy, can you show me what it is?
Because I can't see it on my screen
because your stream's slightly dark. I I
will
copy this image and I will send it
directly to you.
>> Glorious. Cuz because I'm looking at
your screen and it's like all Oh god.
[Laughter]
>> Oh Jesus.
>> Uh so you know how volatile Courtney P
could be? Do you remember when they told
her that she was like that she was like
incredibly volatile and awful? Um that
hasn't changed at all.
I hope every single person sweeping for
Sabersport gets viol vi violated anally
with something large enough to cause
fatal internal hemorrhaging.
>> She's a survivor of assault like have a
little like have a little bit of tact
about that topic. I mean seriously
>> that's Did you remember when um Oh my
brother texted me. Did he drop off my
present?
Uh you placed the card.
I gotta
Okay. Anyway,
>> sorry, my brother.
>> I don't I I didn't want to interrupt
that. That sounded important.
>> No. Well, he's trying to get some I left
something over at my mom's house last
night when we had lasagna.
>> Oh my god.
>> So good. Taylor Nan with the two. Didn't
she make the same threat to Enter? Yes.
She said, um, Mr. Enter, like cuz Enter
has like a take where he's like, I'd
rather be accused of I'd rather be raped
than accused of rape. and she says,
"Well, I sure hope it happens to you
like 13 Reasons Why style." And I'm
like, "What the [\h__\h] is your problem?
>> It's so demented." And like,
>> and like she she said something like
that about me to an extent, but I forget
what it was. So, I can't say, "Oh,
>> but it's something to that not not to
that same level of vividness, but like
>> something in that ballpark." I'm like,
"That why is that your go-to? How is
that your go-to response to things?"
>> So true. I will repeat this. Courtney
thinks uh she is the uber victim and
this creates the problem that she should
talk for all of them. So true.
Opinionator with a 199. Courtney ain't
beating the sociopath allegation. So
true. So true.
>> Sad. It's really it's really depressing
cuz like you know obviously like I met
Courtney through like the whole Lily
Orchard stuff and like you know when you
when you talk to someone like that first
like oh my god it's it really sucks what
happened to you. This is awful. This
that and the third.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, it's not like
what how she acts really
>> like um discredits that or anything.
Like her your her experience is still
what it is. But when you're telling
other people, I hope you get raped. It's
a little It's like why would you wish
what you went through on any other
person? It's especially being an
advocate. It's so [\h__\h] up.
>> Yeah. Like I've never been a person
who's like survived assault who like so
quickly threatens other people with like
not just assault but like the most
violent like the possible iteration of
it. Like it's crazy to me. I I I can't
wrap my mind around it is the problem. I
just can't get I don't get it. It
doesn't make sense to me.
>> It's crazy. Maddie with the five lazy
send me that screenshot. I feel like it
uh should be in my video when I
mentioned Courtney. I will I will send
you everything. I have absolutely
everything. Okay. So,
I know that you have done a stream
already about all of this stuff that's
going on, right? Um,
>> yes. Yes, I did. And it's uh it's it's
[\h__\h] wild.
>> Uh, you were in some drama with uh I
think KP was involved in all that stuff,
was she? I know it was
>> [\h__\h]
>> Courtney. It was ages ago, but yeah, it
was um this and actually it does tie in
with um the the big Saber Spark video
too to a lesser extent. But um it was a
while back. This is like back I'm going
to say like November I want to say. KP
reached out to me cuz I was on um
Scribbble server and she was so was she
at the time and she had said, "Hey, you
know, I know you guys like doing videos.
Do you want to like collaborate with me
on something?" cuz I think she was
looking for people to
>> kind of work with that she could like
bounce off of to get her channel back in
good graces on YouTube's algorithm or
whatever.
>> Yeah.
>> And she probably figured, "Oh, Anthony,
your channel's picking up right now.
Let's uh collaborate on a project." And
so we worked on something. We had like a
call one afternoon and I forget the
exact I think it was like a video about
like how cuz I was thinking like what
topic she would be interested in
covering. and thought, "Oh, well, here's
a topic on vi like heroes and villains
who have kind of like romantic or sexual
tension with each other, you know, like
kind of like the your rivals who like
everyone ships, that kind of thing."
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And so, we were on a call. We're talking
about these.
>> Oh, whoops.
>> Oh, sorry about that. I just
disconnected. I was trying to start a
little thing with Finn.
>> It's all good. Hey, hey, Phineas. How's
it going?
>> Sorry. I was trying to uh pull him in
real quick while you were chatting. I
didn't know that that would happen right
away.
>> It's all good.
>> Okay. No worries.
>> As you were saying, sorry.
>> Anyway, so uh enemies to lovers. Uh that
was the topic. Uh and she couldn't think
of Angie couldn't think of a single
example.
>> I had to suggest here's the craziest
part. I I we we we put a Google doc
together, which I think is lost now. I
think it was on her end. I forget. And
going listing of all these different
characters, I'm thinking like, oh, you
know, Naru and Sasuke, Light and L. And
then I had to suggest, you know, like um
Kim Possible and Shego, like, oh yeah,
that would count. I'm like,
KP, your thing is you love Kim Possible
a lot.
>> Oh god.
>> And you couldn't think of Kim Possible
and Shego as a potential example what
we're talking about here.
>> I was just
>> wait KP or sorry, Kim, sorry, KP and Kim
Possible are two different things.
>> Exactly.
>> Impossible and Shego um dated by the end
of the show or is that potential enemies
lovers? Well, if you're talking like gay
fanfiction, you know.
>> Oh, okay. Cool.
>> Dude, I just noticed
>> canon, but like implied.
>> I just noticed that my cup is green and
I have a green screen. I
>> Oh, I love it.
>> I'm disappearing behind my cup.
>> I I worked I worked at a I worked at a
film summer camp doing green green
screen exercises with the like with the
seven through nineyear-olds where I
would have them do a little thing on the
green screen. And there was a few little
boys who were unfortunate enough to wear
green shirts for the uh for the green
screen day. And so I was like, "Yo, I
got to show everyone what happens." And
so I literally uh showed the whole class
what happens when someone wears green
shirts on green screen day.
>> I love it. I love it. That sounds so
cool. It was very funny. The kids were
The kids were surprised.
>> Let me read these super chats real
quick. Metal Man with the five. I felt
bad for Courtney, but she can't be
acting like this.
>> Yeah. I mean, not to tone police a
victim, but like still though, like I
would say that wishing rape on
somebody's a bit too far. KJ Zeta with
the five. I apologize for going off
topic, but can you guys believe that the
Rocky Horror Picture Show has been
running in theaters for 50 years at this
point? Good lord.
>> It's incredible and amazing that it's
been going on for that long.
>> I've actually never seen it.
>> You never seen Rocky Horror?
>> No, I know.
>> Finn. Finn,
>> I know. I'm sorry.
>> Get off this call and watch Rocky Horror
right this second. It's not Wait, no.
Don't literally do that. Oh my god. I
was joking.
>> Oh my lord. Pretty fun.
>> I was joking.
>> I know. I I had to I had to stay off for
a few seconds to make you think it was a
bit for
>> That's funny as [\h__\h]
>> Oh, that's good. I'm going away. I was
being such do it.
>> Fred.
>> No, I need to see it.
>> Very lazy core. It's so good.
>> Fred Skull with a five. I have
absolutely zero familiarity with what's
going on here. I feel like a
homeschooled kid trying to make friends
with the 12th grade theater nerds.
>> I love it. I love it.
>> Thank you, Chico, for the two. KP
doesn't understand Kim Possible. So
true.
>> Evidently, she didn't. I didn't. I I was
I I was surprised even by that cuz I
thought like, oh, cuz I went in at first
thinking, oh, I'll mention anime. You
think of cartoons, that's your whole
thing. And then I'm like, but no, I had
to. But really what I figured out
afterwards was all she was trying to do
was drag me in to like get me to read a
quote for the what became your Saber
Spark video.
>> No [\h__\h] Really?
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. Well, because she did no work on
the project. That's why it fell through.
And she's like, "Oh, you know, you start
doing Cuz at first I'm thinking, oh,
well, you write your videos obviously,
so we'll we'll be we'll take we'll jump
back and forth creatively." And she's
like, "Yeah, we could do like two
videos, one on my channel, one on
yours." Like, "Oh, okay. So, we're going
to work together writing it, right?"
Like, cuz I'm thinking like, "Okay, I"
and I'm and I'm working on And I'm going
back to the script every so often going,
"Okay, let me add some stuff right
here." Wow, KP hasn't added anything on
her end of the script. That's so
strange. Oh, maybe I'll put a little bit
in here for notes or recommendations.
It's fine. And I'm going and and a
couple weeks go by. Like it's not for
me, I write fast. I I write a video. I
can like I'm again with with writing for
Valet and stuff like that. I'm used to
writing really really quickly. So I'm
thinking like, okay, maybe I'm going too
fast. Maybe she's still thinking. And
I'm think she doesn't have a day job, so
like she has time to consider this.
>> And that's a great idea. By the way,
Mosy with the two said rocky horror
watch along now. We absolutely should
that do do that for a stream. That'd be
amazing.
>> I ask me for that one. I'll join you for
that. That's
>> also I don't mean to alarm anybody, but
um
there's a fall of Emily Jones Sonic
Community Evil Queen document that just
came out 20 hours ago.
>> Wait, what?
>> Yeah, it's by the guy Super Speed Sonic.
This is the guy she had like beef with
because she accidentally got him kicked
out of a Sonic uh convention and then
they had some like beef on Twitter.
That's crazy.
>> How are these How do these people find
ways to piss so many different people
off in so many different ways all at the
same time?
>> You'd be surprised, I suppose. I don't
know if we should watch that for the
stream cuz I'm only supposed to be
streaming for about 3 hours today cuz I
have to let my boyfriend do D and D
later. But
>> understandable. That's I think that has
to be a stream for a different time,
guys. I'm sorry. Not Not right now.
>> Jesus. It's like everything at once.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, it's like the whole thing this
drama Well, so for us, right, the drama
is like like the it was just two weeks
ago that the um the cat get a lot got
let out of the bag with the whole
Rebecca Starlight being back stuff.
>> Then KP came back a week later.
>> Crazy crazy week.
>> Yeah. And and on my periphery also there
other dramas that happened at the same
time. So I'm just like God is like
everything at once. It's crazy.
>> Absolutely.
>> It's how drama goes with YouTube. I feel
like like also like then also last week
we also got the jar stuff happening
again.
>> God. God. These [\h__\h] don't know when
to quit. I swear to God. All right.
>> Relentless is the problem. Oh no.
>> Oh, you found the post.
>> I did. Chat, let's talk about this post
cuz that was all I had for Courtney P
content. By the way, it's just one
singular tweet. But it was funny. Thank
you, Fouchy. Let's go to the main hub.
Oh, there's my friends. Look at my
friends. Say hi to my friends,
everybody.
>> Hello to my friends, everybody.
>> Hi. Hello there.
>> Okay.
>> Chico with the two. Why can't Where is
my chat for some reason? Oh.
>> Oh, wow. I do pop up. I just saw myself
now on screen.
>> Oh, yeah. I know. Little guy.
>> It's the late. Oh, my little dude.
Right.
>> Also, from how you're taller than me.
>> That's probably not accurate in real
life. I'm 5'5.
>> I'm 6'1. This is actually very funny.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh, no. I am canonically very short or
rather short.
>> Yeah. Like I'm I I I think I'm like
decently tall and then I like people
realize, oh wow, you're really tall. I'm
like, it's just whatever. You know how
it is.
>> Guys, I think they would call me a
little guy.
>> You are. I've not met you at IRL yet,
but I believe that.
>> Oh my god. Sorry. I'm trying to pop out
this chat, so I have a
>> It's understandable. No, you're doing
great. Don't worry.
>> I'm having trouble reading the super
chat without it. Okay.
>> You're doing so much better than Friday.
Don't worry.
>> God, kill God.
>> I I wasn't there for Friday.
>> Friday was a [\h__\h] mess. I can't
>> You have to laugh to deal with the pain.
>> No, cuz today that intro was fantastic.
I did fantastic. Anyway, Chico Cheese
with the two, Star Giant, Star Giant
back, KP back, and the Completionist is
back. That's crazy. Buddha with the
five. Check out the shock treatment and
underrated sequel. The Rocky Horror is
pretty good. I will consider it. Um,
>> I can check that one.
>> Dark Enigma with the thousand CLP. I'm
not sure what currency that is.
>> Let me see how much that is. Uhhuh.
>> I It's probably like a dollar something.
KP should change to I love shifting gold
pulse a lot. That's crazy. That's crazy.
doesn't know if her tongue is full
though.
>> That's pretty funny. And Taylor Taylor
Nan with a five. The more KP talks, the
more I understand why she and Lily
Orchard were besties for so long. And
with that, that is also another goal.
Yeah,
>> Lily Orchard was just trying to steal
KP's clout.
>> Yo, that's crazy.
>> Seriously. And it's funny in hindsight
that KP tried stealing Lily Orchard's
clout to like get ahead after her
channel started dying off. So,
>> I mean,
I don't know how the story of the go
went again of how the two of them went
became friends, but I don't know how
they became friends, but I know that KP
was friends with Lily for an
uncomfortably long period of time
considering uh you know,
>> all right,
>> what would be the excuse of her?
>> Do you want one or two?
>> Huh?
>> Two.
>> Two. Two.
>> Yeah. It's the second round. You got to
double it up. You got to amp it up,
>> baby.
>> Honestly, we I think Lazy, you should
set you should set up at some point.
Also,
uh um if you have that like Amazon wish
list thing where someone can gift you
things, you should have that so they can
gift you as many of those as possible.
So, eventually you'll have a room filled
with those bubble guns.
>> I just got bubble gum in my mouth.
>> I love it.
>> I love this. I I love seeing the delayed
effect cuz you're sharing your screen.
I'm watching the stream, so I'm getting
like
>> delayed effect of the gun effect. I love
this.
>> I know.
>> Oh my god, that's so funny.
>> There's bubbles. Bubbles in every
screen.
>> Bubbles are amazing. I'm having a
>> bubbles are inevitable.
>> Yeah,
>> I'm having a fantastic time. Actually,
we should I can't blame you.
>> I'm I'm got to get to the KP thing cuz
I'm
>> though, I do appreciate everyone's
donations.
>> Are we Are we distracting you, Lazy? Are
we distracting you from the point of
your stream? Is that what's happening?
>> Not you guys. The bubbles are The
bubbles are
>> Yeah, fair. They're very They're very uh
all-encompassing.
>> Chat, let's read this real quick. We're
gonna read this and we're gonna finally
watch the video and we're going to come
at this trying to be a little helpful
cuz look, like I said at the beginning
of the stream, I've had this boot on my
foot. I managed to wiggle my way out of
it through the audacity. This [\h__\h] just
doesn't have the audacity. And I'm going
to teach her today how to get some of
that audacity.
H
>> let's read this. Oh, Bulmer Man with uh
the two off topic. Your face gives the
be I hate this. I'm sad now. You know
what? I'm quitting streaming forever. I
can't.
>> No. No. A shame.
>> I am not giving JD Vance baby face.
Screw you.
>> Oh, Jesus Christ.
>> Like the Southport Jans.
>> That is terrible.
I have never been more insulted for
someone else in my life.
>> I mean, I I don't Maybe this will start
a trend. Maybe I'll get more donos of
people saying I look like said character
and it'll be more and more offensive
every time. It'll be funny.
>> I mean I mean I just get told I sound
like either the like uh what's his name
from Alan Alda or the kid from the Polar
Express who sounds like Mandark, so it
works out.
>> Damn, that sucks,
>> dude. Oh, Polar Express is one of those
movies that I wish was better than it
was.
>> I I hate the Polar Express. People give
me crap for this. I did a video on Polar
Express last year where I said, "I hate
this movie." And so many people were
like, "It's my favorite movie from when
I was a kid." Well, I'm sorry. Your
childhood favorite movie is terrible.
So, that's not my fault.
>> I'm I'm one of the defenders of the
animation. Like it looks a little dated
on like the faces, sure, but I think the
animation looks good and I like a lot of
the musical score and stuff within it,
but man, it is one of the weakest it is
one of the weaker stories for for a
Christmas special. And I should know I
sat through 41 rank and bath specials
last year.
>> What do you think of the um the life
adventures of Santa Claus? That one's
actually pretty decent, I thought.
>> Oh, I hated that. That's one of my
lowest
>> that one. I I kind of like that one. I
like the fant fantasy elements of it.
>> Why did I write on it? Um,
>> you know what's so funny? None of this
is related to what we're talking about.
>> No, it's fine. I I'm a I'm a year
without a Santa Claus person. That's my
favorite.
>> Fair truth.
>> Stellar.
>> Speak speak your truth, King.
>> Um, okay. Yeah, I gave the film a one
out of or sorry, two out of 10. Uh, and
I'm and it was Oh, to be okay. To be
fair, I did watch it after I watched 34
Christmas specials in a row.
Yeah, that would kill it for me, too.
Not going to lie.
>> Yeah,
>> I wouldn't be able to recognize true art
if my brain was that melted.
>> All right, continuing. Sorry.
>> Sorry, chat. We got distracted with
branken bass and bubbles. I'm sure you
understand. It's a lazy bedhead stream.
None of this is supposed to ever make
sense.
>> But I do have to get off the stream
before 7. So, we will
>> y
>> try to be as enjoy the next three hours,
chat. I've been reading your feedback on
the recent video and I want to
acknowledge something clearly. I
understand why many of you felt
disappointed or frustrated. My intention
wasn't to dismiss anyone's experience or
minimize what happened.
We'll get there. Only to be honest about
where I'm coming from and how I feel
about a complicated situation. I made a
shorter video to get the crux of the
issue, but many of you want to hear more
about the details I didn't address. I
was afraid a longer one-part video
wouldn't hold people's attention. [\h__\h]
[\h__\h]
>> No. Mine was three hours and people
watched the whole thing start to finish.
It was fine.
>> Yeah, I that's just because there's so
much to talk about.
>> Oh god. But but in hindsight, I should
have addressed everything in one video.
I know I didn't say everything
perfectly. That's on me. I'm listening
and learning from this and I plan to
follow up with more clarity and content
context soon. This conversation matters
and I want to handle it with care that
it deserves.
>> Mhm. I don't think the problem was the
length of the video. Call me crazy.
>> Call me crazy. [\h__\h]
KP, you made a long unfocused video. You
have no right to talk. True, Chico.
>> Oh,
>> somehow KP
couldn't articulate anything of any
value in the 10 minutes that they had
right there. Why would anyone watch a
video four times as long and just as
unclear? Well, so the whole thing too,
right? Where was in the video an
indication that was a part one, you
know?
>> God damn, you're so right, Bessie.
>> Yeah.
>> Like, like this is such a pivot where
it's like this is part one. No, it's
not. You ended being like, what can we
go about going forward? If if you wanted
to introduce it as a series, you'd be
like in this video series, I will be
telling you about how we can how we as a
culture can take better accountability
online. But that was not the ending. The
ending was what can we go do better
going forward and then talking as the as
if you're the uh as if you're the
guideline for accountability online
>> when you are the furthest thing from it.
>> Not to mention the fact that the
algorithm benefits and rewards videos
that are longer. That's why my videos
are the longest.
>> Exactly.
That's why I never shut the [\h__\h] up,
Anthony.
>> Yeah. It's perfect for yappers. The
algorithm is built for people who can't
stop talking. It's fantastic. See, I I
can't relate to like the whole long
video thing myself. I I do many parts
that can go into longer videos, but it's
like I'm a pretty like concise writer as
far as it goes where it's like but like
it my stuff will get compiled
eventually. There will be an over an
hour video at the end of my current
series, but that's at the end of it, you
know.
>> Fair fair. That's a fair point. You
know, I I I think what you need to do,
Phineas, is remember is embrace your
inner yapper. That will that will that
will drastically improve the algorithm.
>> I mean, you're not even wrong. You're
not even wrong. You're so right.
>> All right, boys. Are we ready to view
this? I mean, I know Anony's already
watched this, but are we ready to
>> I've watched it.
>> Take our notes. Take our notes here.
>> Oh, I I have about 15,000 pages of notes
on this video. I'm ready to discuss it.
>> Wow.
>> Okay, Mr. Enter.
>> I I came I came prepared. uh had a very
slow Friday night, you know, so I just I
was going to go on a stream Friday
night, but I didn't. So, I just filled
it with note takingaking on this video.
>> Great. Awesome. I'm so glad that I'm
Something happened. It was like a gray
blob that blocked out my uh Friday
night.
>> Shut the [\h__\h] up.
All right, ladies and gentlemen. How
many I don't have like a a viewer count
on where we're at right now. Actually,
>> we have we have a lot of views.
>> You got 243 viewers right now. Also,
Enter just said, "I have watched this
vid too many times."
>> Mr. Enter feels my pain.
>> Oh god.
All right. So,
like I said, chat going to be nice.
Again, I've been on this position before
where I had to make like a follow-up
apology video thing forever ago. You
guys know it. So, I'm going to try and
be helpful. Okay, I know that I could be
a [\h__\h] I know that this person has
been a [\h__\h] to me, but I am the bigger
person. Buddyat with the 199 challenge
for aunt. Watch Christmas in New York.
>> Wait. Question question.
>> Do you have enough subscri Do you have
enough subscribers to be helpful for KP?
There there is a guideline, right? You
have to have x many subscribers for KP
to take your advice.
>> Well, hopefully 50K is enough. Okay.
>> Yeah, KP tried giving me convention
advice when we were still talking about
how to properly promote my channel to
people and how I really need to learn
from her cuz my channel it could be so
much better if I just took her
promotional advice.
>> Wait,
>> cuz I I I need to get the view she gets.
So, um
>> I have an announcement. I love KF
possible a lot. They [\h__\h] ass
[\h__\h]
>> Um,
>> awful.
>> See, um,
>> what? Hold on.
>> I tried to tell KP about split testing
with thumbnails and she was like, h, I'm
good. I don't want to talk about YouTube
stuff.
>> You wouldn't take a a like AB testing.
Like, that's basic.
>> I was I was trying to explain that.
Yeah. Um, at one point in our DMs cuz I
cuz again, I was she was she she was she
was voicing a frustration. And she's
like, "Why is my Lion King video not
doing that well?" And I was like, "Well,
you can try like AB testing." And like
again, I I love the game of YouTube,
right? Like the whole watching stats
stuff is really fascinating for me. I
I've told both of you guys about this. I
keep like a monthly top 10 videos chart
for how my videos do cuz I like watching
um the stats flow for that so much. And
then just from from her, anything that I
try to give remotely advice adjacent uh
was not taken well. Yeah, Phineas, your
your your data tracking is intense and I
deeply respect that. You are you have a
talent for numbers that I personally do
not have the patience to do myself. So,
I give you props for that. That's
incredible stuff you do.
>> To be fair, it is like really quiet as
far as it goes. I don't get many views
on a lot of my like older videos, but
it's just fun for me to track like and
see where things go. Um, and once if
once more my videos are making views,
right, it's going to be a lot of fun to
to check out. But until then, it's a
good like little way for me to track how
well videos perform amongst each other
and how long they stay consistently
relevant.
>> This is fair. Yeah, I hear you there.
And then it's a good thing to Anyway,
I'm seeing a Sans Undertale on the U.
>> I have to get the censorship Sands ready
because apparently people said that
there's like poorly censored like weird
[\h__\h] So, I'm keeping him here.
Everybody say hello to Censorship Sans.
He's back.
>> Hi. Hi, Sans. Also, I can't believe this
is our first time ever like voice
chatting like
>> like No, it's a See, Lacy told me when
when she had first chatted with you and
stuff that we get along and then like
text and we got along.
>> Was I wrong?
>> No.
>> You're a pretty cool person. I like you.
You're great.
>> You You too. It's the ADHD. I think that
>> it really is. It's terrible. blow it. I
I'm I'm unmedicated for my AD. Well, I
have meds, but I don't take my meds
often cuz I'm fine.
>> You see,
>> I'm fine.
>> You see, my problem my problem just is
like whenever you're like, "Hey, you
want to have a voice call?" I'm like,
"Sadly, I'm dead tired and I don't even
speak. I don't even don't even want to
talk to my spouse, let alone another
human being."
>> No, understandable. Understandable.
>> Sorry, honey. I can't talk right now.
I'm I'm tweaking. I'm tweaking. Look, I
I am someone who wakes up at 6:00 a.m.
most days and I stay awake pretty late.
So, it's I I I completely get that once
I finish.
>> But you sleep
>> some. Yeah, I um
>> [\h__\h] lazy person sleeping. Oh, sorry.
I know.
>> You got to cut that down. Those are
amateur numbers.
>> Oh my god.
>> Just stay awake for 5 days straight like
I do. See, the the fun the the fun
little trick, Aunt, is you just go to
school with a day of random children and
then they wipe you out when you get home
after an hour and 45 minute commute back
to your house from where you are on
public transit in Chicago,
>> you know. Fair. I I wasn't familiar with
your game. That's a fair point. Yeah,
you
>> mode.
>> Like seriously, just get a substitute
teaching shift for a day. That's that's
your tranquilizer. That's what you need.
>> I used to teach ESL, so I had to deal
with kids who just didn't speak English.
So, I was like a little easier to deal
with
>> in that sense because they had to pay
extra attention to what I was saying
because I don't speak any other language
but English. And so, we had to actually
focus on what we were saying. So, we
didn't wear each other out too much cuz
we're too focused on
>> I babbling. Let's get the point.
>> Let's do this thing. You ready, Lizzy?
Is your censorship Sam's ready?
>> Yeah, he's ready. Chico Cheese with the
five. There's a point when I take my
ADHD me meds. She's where I I just crash
and I don't want to talk to anyone. And
I don't know how I don't know if you
feel that. I would know what that's like
if I were sens if I were at all
medicated. Um, all right. We got about
250 people watching. Thank you guys all
for being here. Appreciate it. Let's
enjoy this uh 10 minutes of
disastrous content. Um,
>> remember to unmute.
So, I think a big part of what I want to
do with the stream is kind of, as
somebody who's been on the opposite end,
talk to somebody on how an apology video
should go, right? Um, so I think what we
should do is we should probably pull
this up real quick, chat. Um, let's make
ourselves a list here. Let's make
ourselves a little bit of a pie chart.
We're going to put a line right here.
And we're gonna we're we're gonna put a
lot. This is so bad. All right, chat.
Here are some pros. God, that pros.
>> Sans is obstructing the entire image you
have.
>> Damn it. Pros and
>> Sans, guys. Sans is against apologies.
>> Cons.
>> Sans apologizes for nothing.
>> Pros and cons, everybody. And we're
going to go through this whole video and
talk about the pros and the cons and
see. Does this mean the pro of an
apology and the kind of an apology to
Sans?
>> Yeah, use both at the same time.
>> Of course,
>> this is our Hold on. Wait.
>> Your handwriting is so good for Good
job.
>> All right, chat. Let's see if this
apology does what it needs to do
effectively. I have my pros and cons
list pulled up on MS Paint. I am like
Pirate Software. I know. Let's watch
this [\h__\h] Let's get censorship Sans
exactly where he should be, which is
probably across the entire screen. Let's
be so for real. We don't want
>> ju just keep Sans on the entire like
right hand side of the screen for a bit
and that should be good.
>> Okay, we'll do it right left hand left
hand side. Left hand side left hand side
of the screen. Just just keep saying
it's like
>> is it early that the unsum
early but it comes pretty fast is
>> that's why it's gonna stand right over
here.
>> Actually, you know what, Lazy? When
Rachel mentions DA Games,
>> get ready to bring it up.
>> Okay,
stand's going to be standing right over
here.
>> All right, chat. Let's go.
>> Why is the the sounds off? I'm [\h__\h] I
am the best streamer of all time.
Some good stuff is necessary.
>> Chat, can we get some hundreds in the
chat for being the greatest streamer of
all time?
>> You watched him do it this time.
>> Anyway, let's do it.
>> This video discusses sensitive topics
including grooming, power dynamics, and
online harassment. Viewers,
>> I could I have a question? I don't mean
to pause immediately. When she says
disclaimer, this includes grooming and
power dynamics, is that really something
that needs to have a disclaimer like a
trigger warning power dynamics? I don't
think any of this needs a a I think what
needs a disclaimer is I have uncensored
content here that you should should not
be putting in a YouTube video. That
should be the the censor that should be
the warning.
>> Censorship Sans is ready and I hope
everyone else is too.
>> Let's begin.
>> I'll tell you the inappropriate stuff is
not the grooming or power dynamics. It's
the images you show uncensored from a
discord. That's the point you should be
censoring. hard. Bubonic tonic with a
two. Sans taking the place of GI Robot.
So true, chat. Let's [\h__\h] do this.
>> Three, two, one, go.
>> Discretion is advised. 18 plus content
warning. Do not harass anyone discussed
in this video. Hi everyone. Welcome to
the video.
>> Holy [\h__\h]
>> Yeah, it's a bad JPEG that's stretched
out. No, no, there there's no
improvement. That's how it is.
>> Honestly, I I'm not going to lie. I I
know there was probably an artist, but
for a second I thought this was AI
generated.
>> The problem is they took an image that's
clearly like much too small for this
frame and stretched it out.
>> I just
>> That's the issue.
>> That's crazy.
>> Yeah. Bring up the 180p. It's not going
to fix anything. You can't fix.
>> It only goes up to 720, first of all.
And second of all, it's so pixelated.
It's like
>> I got to ask.
>> Mhm.
>> Was this commissioned for this video or
was this before? Did she just have KP at
a table laying around?
>> She just had KP at a table ready for
>> I think it's I think it's just laying
around because like it's way too
stretched out. It wasn't made for the
the editing screen. Like you you got to
have an image that's bigger than the
screen and shrink it down as opposed to
taking an image that's too small and
stretching it out.
>> Yeah.
>> And not only is it stretched out, but
it's stretched out vertically more than
horizontally.
>> So, should that be put on our cons list,
guys? You're sorry.
>> No, that's not important.
>> I don't think I don't think this affects
the apology. It's just bad. It's just
bad YouTube uh editing.
>> Editing
bad.
>> Also, I I want to mark that there's an
it's an there's she gives an 18 plus
warning after the discretion thing like
and also her second warning it strikes
me as an editing error where it got cut
off. Did y'all notice that too?
>> Yes. Yes, I did. There's a lot of
editing problems here.
>> Okay. Well,
all right. Well, listen. Editing's not
everything, guys. Everything Ed editing
is not everything. This is just a a
video that we need to watch because this
person has some things that need they
need to address and that's all that
matters. And all I care about is hearing
what they have to say. Okay. Those who
don't know me, I'm the YouTuber I love
Kim Possible Lot, which is a very long
name, but I'm known as KP on online
spaces. I mostly do Disney and cartoon
media analysis, but we aren't here for
that today. Today, we're here to talk
about another video I did recently that
didn't go over so well.
>> The video was intended to be a
conversation about problematic behaviors
in online spaces, community safety,
especially concerning children, and my
own experiences regarding certain
YouTubers and content creators named in
this video. However,
>> was that a conversation? Like, I didn't
think this was a conver
>> that was supposed to be a conversation
starter. I'm sorry. What?
>> There was no conversation. It was just
her talking to herself. I don't know. Uh
>> I honestly I wouldn't I I don't think I
would have like promoted a conversation
starter video with you depicted as Moses
on Twitter being like, I'm about to
expose a pedophile today. I'm not sure
what conversation that would start other
than you're exposing a bad person. I
don't
>> Well, don't but but Lazy, don't you
realize the conversation was we should
get rid of Saber Sparks from Public Life
forever? That was the conversation she
wanted to start.
>> Okay, I don't know about anyone else,
but when I hear the term start a
conversation, my brain immediately goes
to 13 Reasons Why.
>> Oh my god,
that video really was the 13 reasons
why.
>> No,
come on.
>> I don't think I have enough pumpkin beer
for this conversation.
>> No.
chat, donate to my bubble goal and I
will get wasted on the stream anyway.
Actually, no, I shouldn't. It's five
Well, it's five o'clock somewhere. It's
about
>> Yeah, it's five. It's 5 o'clock by me
actually right now.
>> Literally 5:00,
guys. You too.
>> What? Sorry, I was talking to Lazy Eric.
>> What? What was your question?
>> Wasn't it five Well, y'all said it's
5:00 tomorrow. Isn't it 5:00 for lazy,
too?
>> It's literally 5:00 right now. That's
why I said it. It's funny. I said the
meme metal man with the new KP send me
some of your trust fund on a better mic.
>> Yeah, she
>> like like none of us are like rolling in
money, but we have better equipment to
do.
>> Literally, I just bought a bunch of new
equipment literally like a couple days
ago and I don't have a lot of money. The
[\h__\h]
>> To be fair, she does not make money on
her YouTube videos.
>> She's filthy stinking rich.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, okay. I've I've not deep dived
into the the finances of one Kim
Possible. Um
>> I've unfortunately been blessed with
unfortunate knowledge on this matter.
And I can assure you she is like rich.
Like grossly disgustingly rich.
>> I mean, if I were grossly disgustingly
rich, I would also make a shitty YouTube
channel. But I'm doing that and I'm not
disgustingly rich. So, I don't really
know what the point of this is.
>> You love the game chat.
>> Anyway, or even the best of intentions
could go ary and it's safe to say that
mine certainly did causing unintended
harm and confusion in a situation where
clarity and resources are paramount. The
video in question went live on my
channel in May earlier this year being
removed within hours of upload since I
understood the message did not come off
as what I intended. I haven't yet spoken
on the issue publicly choosing to take
time and space to be able to address
legitimate concerns of the video with a
clear head and level emotions.
>> That's fine. That's fine. I mean, it
took me a forever to get my response
video out. So,
>> I I don't care for the length that it
took for this video to come out. I'm
just surprised that it's only 10 minutes
given how long it's been.
>> Having seen the video, maybe it needed
more time to cook.
>> Genuine question. Is she actually a
trust fun kid? Thank you, Taylor Na with
the five. Um, I don't personally know
anything about her financial thing. I
mean, Anthony, you said you didn't or
>> I do. Uh because I've heard from
multiple sources this and I won't
disclose my sources. Uh though one of
them is KP herself um at one point.
>> Okay.
>> She has I don't know if I I don't know
if she's a trust fund kid in the literal
sense of the word.
>> Mhm.
>> But I know that she lives on her
family's dime
>> and her family is excessively rich. I
don't know if that literally means she's
a trust fund kid, but I do know she has
a lot of money that is not hers.
>> You know what, Anthony? You're so right.
I think that's a con. Being rich. Being
rich is a
>> I don't think this affects anything with
like what she's doing, but I think it
just important to note that she can
afford to pay her editors, but chooses
not to.
>> Well, absolutely. I mean, I think
knowing that knowing that and stuff, it
definitely changes the whole like free
operation because again, I'm someone
where it's like my views are are often
like lower and stuff. I still pay my
editors when I have someone edit.
>> Yeah, it I'll be honest with you, like
if Jar is a better employer than you
are, that's a sign you're doing
something very wrong.
>> Wait, hold on. If Star Giant's a better
employer than I just a robot. Well, no.
No. I was
>> Oh, that too. Oh, that too. I'm sorry.
Yeah.
>> No. Sorry, Dian. It's not though. Uh I I
I I think that I think the $2 per
segment is a lot more lapable than
volunteer work. Like $2 for a six minute
se a six minute segment.
>> Mhm.
>> I mean, at least someone's getting paid.
At least someone got money. KP has no
>> also I'm gonna put in I'm gonna put in
the pro category took
um time off because that's always
healthy to do.
>> Yeah, it's good to it's good to separate
all joking aside, it's good to separate
yourself from a situation when it's
getting too toxic for you.
>> Yes. Good. Awesome. Two, we got a pro. I
didn't think we would have any of this
video. Good for Katie for taking some
time off to at least, you know, address
and go through what she needs to go
through. Um be very lonely pro before
the video is over.
>> Only sole pro. Your other your other con
so far is uh the bad editing sucks and
also being rich.
>> The other pro I would put as the doggo
at the end. But
>> I'm not getting to the dog.
>> We're going the dog was the best part.
Doggo's best part.
>> Best character.
>> I have a different opinion, but we're
not there yet, chat. Let's continue. For
those of you who still have no idea what
I'm talking about, earlier this year, I
released a video about the online
actions of DA Games.
>> What?
>> That thumbnail is bad.
>> I just That is the goofiest thumbnail
ever.
>> I forgot that was the thumbnail. It
does. It looks Who is this supposed to
be? Who are any of these people? I know
this is supposed to be Saber, but who
the [\h__\h] are any of these people? The
>> I think Sabot Da Games is the guy with
the hat. Chris has the blonde hair.
>> And I don't know who the dark red person
in the corners.
>> Well, so the the whole thing with with
the whole thing with the two, right? So,
the reason why we don't see this
thumbnail often is cuz
>> Oh, Orchard. That's supposed to be Lily
Orchard. Okay.
>> At the end. I just realized that that's
supposed to be Lily for some reason.
>> That is
>> Wait, was was Lily relevant to this?
>> End. She was tagged on at the end cuz I
cuz she wanted to get more attention.
Yeah.
>> Yeah. Which is nothing. And listen, I
I've made a bunch of videos on Lily
Orchard. She has nothing to do with this
controversy aside from Courtney being
involved.
>> Also, why' they make her a brown screen
person? What the hell is happening?
>> Oh, that that that there's a there's a
story behind that. Uh Lily for a while
insisted she was part Native American.
>> Oh, perfect. Awesome.
>> Uh she is not.
>> Okay, I figure
>> I can confirm. Anyways, continuing on
defic Ryan, another YouTuber named
Steven or Savior Spark and the
association between Oh my god.
>> Yeah. Yeah. There you go. That's what
I'm talking about. Yeah. So, this is
where So, bring in Sans. This is where
it's brought Sans in.
>> Oh, by the way, that's not the image
that I'm saying you have to censor. It
gets worse.
>> Censoring it anyway. I'm not
comfortable.
>> It gets so No, I'm saying it's No, what
I'm saying is it gets worse.
>> Okay. Well, so much worse.
>> I'm keeping it up anyway. shots for
every
>> you are. You got to You need to
>> It's bad.
>> Oh, creepy.
>> By the way, by the way, Sans needs to be
wider.
>> Hey, creepy.
>> Anyway,
>> Sans needs to be wider.
>> Wider. No. No. Trust me. Trust me when I
say this. Trust me. Make him wider.
>> Is that good enough?
>> Um, I'm a little
>> Yeah, I I'll know in like 5 seconds from
now when I see the effect.
>> Guys, every music screw all of you. You
guys are just getting censorship sans
for the rest of the stream.
>> Honestly, a better video. There you go.
That's perfect.
>> Here's your video. Here's your I love
the impossible content. It's just Sans.
There you go.
>> Trust me, Lazy. You may think I'm over
exaggerating, but in like 5 seconds,
you're going to get exactly why I told
you make it wider.
>> All right. Well, guys, it's You know
what? There's not even really that many
visuals in this anyway. So, you guys get
censorship stance the entire video now.
You're welcome.
Dangerous reminders to occupy.
>> See what I mean? Yeah. You see what I'm
talking about? You get it now, right?
>> You just protected me from a swastika
jump scare. Thank you, Anthony.
>> And a creepy old man pulling down like a
very young girl's panties as well.
Really bizarre.
>> Oh my gosh.
>> Like, why would you put this in your
apology video, JKP? Like, what the [\h__\h]
is wrong with me?
>> It's for 18 plus. Can't they be okay
with it?
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're right. You're
right. You're right. You're right. It's
18 plus. That makes everything better.
Yeah. Okay. Fair point.
>> Creepy. You want She was just She was
just making sure this was a dangerous
space for minors to occupy so they don't
So
>> No, that's bad.
>> How can you scare away kids if you don't
put terrible things in it?
>> Creepy, I will add you to the call if
you want in on this [\h__\h] You want in on
the brow beating.
>> All right, hold on. Uh there you are.
[Laughter]
>> Welcome.
>> Oh, let's see if you'll join us whenever
you're ready. Um,
yeah, I got some points. I'm educated on
this. I hope so.
Oh boy.
>> Hey, welcome.
>> I've returned.
>> Yes.
>> Hello there. Nice to meet you, by the
way.
>> I'm not sure why Creepy's avatar is so
off to the right
>> in forever, man.
>> Got to quickly mute the stream so I
don't hear a double.
>> Yeah, please.
>> Oh, yeah. No, that throws me off so
much, too. I guess
>> that's always the battle when you get
out of
>> Yeah.
>> Then you start hearing yourself and you
go crazy,
>> dude. I've been seeing I've been seeing
you all over the place. Uh I'm pretty I
know that you've you've covered KP stuff
before. I know you cover a lot of Lily
Orchard stuff
>> and of course I've seen your stuff. I
you know your some of your stuff is
inspiration behind my why I do what I
do. So I really uh
>> it was nice talking to you.
>> A champions of the people. That that's
what we are.
I you guys brought up a very good point
earlier that KP considers this video to
be 18 plus, right?
>> Right.
>> Yeah.
>> There's no Then why isn't it age
restricted?
>> Right.
>> Well, so either a you believe it's 18
plus but don't want to restrict it to
only 18 year olds who or people who are
self-reporting as 18
>> to be fair
>> or you don't really believe it's 18 plus
to begin with. To be fair, I don't think
that there's a single member of our
audience that's actually over the age of
18.
>> You're right. I am in fact a 16-year-old
minor. I've lied to you all this time.
>> I mean, like
>> I mean, I'm turning 18 next year.
>> Yo, creepy. Shut up.
>> Well, well, so I think the whole thing
with it is I mean, there's probably a
lot of older people from our audience
who are like, "Oh, KB, that one person
that I've not unsubscribed to yet, you
know?"
>> Right. Well, it doesn't really matter
because like what I'm trying to point
out here is like the the the weird
hypocrisy of claiming that this is 18
plus content while not age restricting
the video. Like it is clearly like
either you don't believe that to be true
and you're using this kind of disclaimer
as a way to make it seem more serious
than it actually is or like you do
believe that it's 18 plus material but
are so inept at YouTube that you don't
know how to mark the video as 18 plus.
Well, I I think it's that second one. I
think it's the second one.
>> Let's be so real. Let's be so for real.
The 18 plus thing doesn't really work
anyways. Got
>> I I I don't I mean, it doesn't matter if
it works or not. It's just like if you
believe you're making content that
should only be watched by 18-year-olds.
You should at least do the bare minimum
to do that, right?
>> That's why I don't make 18 plus content
because I I I want to be able to reach a
wider audience, you know, with, you
know, my content and, you know, what I
like to do. That's why I engage in like,
you know, not just trying to show the
most shocking material, but it's like if
you believe that what you're doing
should only be viewed by 18-year-olds
and you're going to go as far as to put
a [\h__\h] disclaimer at the beginning of
the video, like, hey, seriously, if
you're not 18, don't watch this. Then I
think you could do the one checkbox that
says the account at least needs to
self-report as 18 years old,
>> right? And also it's not like this topic
is really I mean I guess it would be
considered 18 plus but like I know
remember when I was 16 years old talking
about like the map community and
pedophiles when I was like 16. Like kids
know what this [\h__\h] is. Like they've
watched expose videos on the newest
pedophile every week. Like it's not like
this is the most like
>> I'm not the one making the argument this
is 18 plus content. That is KP.
>> No, I know you're holding her to stand
refusing to restrict it.
>> No. Yeah. You're holding a stand as a
for honestly if he just didn't include
the explicit imagery none of this would
be 18 plus
>> that's why we have censorship s
>> metal man with the two
>> sorry metal metal man with the
>> it just shows that this this is like
another example of this creator being
like completely irresponsible and
clearly not knowing what the hell
they're doing or what they're talking
about
>> like you're talking about all these
sensitive subjects and all stuff and you
know you're trying to present yourself
as an authority but you can't even get
step one right.
>> Right. Metalman with the $2. Metalman
with the two. KP is legit not an
intelligent person. Dude, I was watching
Beckett's video when it came out. Right.
And there was a part where he's just
like trying to explain this. He's just
like, KP, the reason why people think
that you're an idiot and I was thinking
this out loud as I'm doing the dishes.
I'm listening to his video and we both
said simultaneously at the same time,
it's because you're an idiot. And I
laughed my ass off. I'm like, I knew it.
>> Genuinely, she's just so dumb. Like,
again, having written a video attempted
with her, you realize her limitations
very quickly in terms of what she
actually knows about.
>> Ironically, that is how I met Anamat.
>> Oh my god.
>> I was because like Anamat had been doing
his thing before I was doing my thing
and I kind of disrespected him like like
that's the animation historian. There's
no way he'll [\h__\h] talk to me. He's
too clean. Um, and then I saw him like,
>> and then I saw him do a collaboration
with KP and I was like, [\h__\h] no. I could
do better than that.
>> Animat's a anime's a character. I like I
like animately
cool.
>> That's how we got him on the Disturbing
Animations voiceover list.
>> I forgot about that.
>> Part of voiceover people there. And then
I I did a
>> I did a review of King of Pigs with him
on his channel. Uh, mainly because I was
at a convention. I saw it and I was like
blown away. I was like, "Why do these
microphones sound worse?" Like KP is
like rambling through her lines cuz like
I don't even know if she wrote anything
down or if this is just like adlib and
then comes in.
>> If she has, she's such ass at reading
scripts because I'm I'm sure even this
video is scripted, but like half the
time she is like
>> sluring through it and I don't know what
the hell is going on. I think it's the
way she's high as [\h__\h] She's just high
as [\h__\h] Well, we
>> never get never get stoned when you do
have to record something. That's just
like a basic rule. Like a a drink of
alcohol maybe, but don't get stoned.
That's a bad idea.
>> It is very hard to like record while
high because like you got to really
watch for slurring and stuff like that.
>> Sometimes I'll like smoke a little bit
and then like two hours later I'll try
and I'll be like, "Damn it, it's like
really hard to get these lines."
>> I can't relate to any of this. I I'm not
saying that KP is necessarily like
>> I I don't know like inherently stupid.
It's just like they don't necessarily
have a quality standard.
>> Oh god.
>> They don't really care how it comes out
or looks.
>> Creepy. Creepy.
>> And really
I'll say she's stupid. I'll say it. I'll
say it. She's stupid. She's very very
dumb. Do you see the quality I'm dealing
with right now? Do you see this?
>> It's so pixelated. This is insanity. I
would never allow You can't even JPEG,
right? this pixelated
>> this this pixelated Sands man. This is
some quality content.
>> No, not that.
>> Anyways,
>> I I I get it too. It's like it's like
there is like a complete lack of
professionalism or or like care. Like at
the beginning, it's like you're
introducing yourself, but it's like why
are you introducing yourself? Everyone
here
>> knows who you are. Yeah. The only people
who are watching this video are her fan
base that are wondering what the [\h__\h] is
going on and why
>> I'd say most of the people watching the
video are like us, you know, like what
the hell's going on.
>> And then even and then even there I
don't think I think I don't think anyone
sees a video said called let's talk and
just is like ah let's hear someone let's
talk you know it's not one of those like
it's not it's not an external video out
outside of the people who are aware of
the situation.
>> Absolutely.
Well, I think another factor, too, is
that I don't think KP even knows what
her audience wants.
>> Like, did you I I watched um a while
back her Pokemon video. And mind you,
I'm not like a huge Pokemon expert. I
love Pokemon, but I
>> I'm an I like it, but I don't know all
the ins and outs of it. I know people
who do, and but but watching it going
like, okay, doing a top ranking Pokemon
videos, and it's all Gen One, which is
fine, but like, you know, if that's your
opinion, but you can't even say what she
likes about them. Like you can't even
give like a good reason why this is the
10th greatest Pokemon of all time. Which
to her audience, if you're doing this to
Pokemon fans, they're gonna go, "Hey,
well, what do you like about it? Do you
like the moves? Do you like the uh
uh something about them in the anime?"
Like, it's just very vague and she can't
specify what it is because she doesn't
know what she is actually talking about.
She can't articulate anything about the
whole thing. And I don't know. I'm I'm
ranting a little bit. It's all tangent.
I just don't like her. So, I'm a I'm a
bit
>> I wonder for a second with her videos is
it based on like older nostalgia like
did she do research and rewatch the
things she's talking about?
>> No, she wrote a Wikipedia page probably.
She cited an episode the anime for the
Pokemon first period in the anime and
then went, "Oh, it's like a you know
Reyhorn. It's like round like a ball."
I'm like like really? I mean I guess see
>> it's so much roundness of a rock. It's a
rock Pokemon. Yes. So much of so much of
the joy though about like what video
making is is like going in and re
researching it yourself. Like for me I
I'm someone where it's like for me I'm a
research and writing person, right? Like
I love when I get to go in and deep dive
into like several films or something in
a row and then just seeing what's up
what's up with them, learning about the
backtories and stuff. I can't imagine
not finding a research be interesting,
you know, for a topic like the whole
Pokemon thing because it's like if
you're going it's and it wait is it a
top 10 like all Pokemon or gen one
Pokemon?
>> It was just all Pokemon but it just
happened to be all Gen One. So it's like
KP kind of comes from a different time
on YouTube where like we're all where
the competition wasn't really there like
everyone was using a Blue Yeti
microphone and like really it was more
about the topic than it was about the
person presenting it right you hit the
algorithm you hit it but YouTube changed
the algorithm at some point uh basically
to favor watch time over clicks and
because of that KP's content severely
really struggled right up until we got
onto the drama train where it's like you
kind of have to watch all the way
through cuz that is the content, right?
>> And a lot of a lot of a lot of what KP
did back in the day was like, you know,
collaborations of brony content
creators. She was in those spaces, you
know, like if you went to a brony panel
at a convention, you know, for with like
the analysis community, KP would be
there. She would be a guest.
>> Um, and she was very respected in those
circles. But, you know, My Little Pony
is you can't we can't really make a
living off of that right now. It's not
like
>> no
>> is that is that is that really a
sustainable fandom anymore and like you
know the people that all those people
that came because like you got to
understand that I would say that 99 to
98% of our audience is like from that
you know general cartoon Brony fandom
sort of thing.
>> Okay. But but I think of like but I
think of like you know like Jane
Nicholson like she was able to make like
a whole career after Brunie being you
know horse famous
>> because she was able to adapt to the
algorithm changes. She was able to adapt
to everything. I think the problem is KP
just can't adapt.
>> Yeah. That that's that's that's where
I'm getting at. It's like they got
popular in a era of YouTube where it was
a lot easier to be popular. You know
like the the quality standards people
had wasn't that high. you know, uh, at
the time YouTube was favoring like, you
know, longer videos over short form
videos. And it's like, you know, she
could like spew out a video and, you
know, all that, you know, for free
because she had the slave editors. Um,
[Laughter]
>> grabbing my like avatar's head right
now. Like, just give it give a little
little pat.
>> Little pat.
>> You guys are getting off topic. I
decided to pet him. Yeah, let's uh
>> Shall we continue the video?
>> Yeah. Yeah,
>> it
>> I think I think we bring Undertale Sans
back a bit. I think
>> I'm gonna keep him up. I'm keeping him
up.
>> Was my own testimony of interactions
with Steven as well as third party
testimony of additional interactions
with Steven. The third party testimony
includes accusations of essay from a
person named Emily. Accusations I
platformed on a video that in hindsight
wasn't suited for testimony that heavy.
Some other
>> Well, okay.
>> What the [\h__\h] are we talking about? He's
testimony like five times in three
different contexts
>> and none of it made any sense.
>> So there's the testimony from I I think
she's talking about Chris, right?
>> Mhm.
>> Yeah. Well, she's talking about her
video in general was about like the
entire 2-hour video and like the topics
it touches on and then how that
testimony being included at the end
wasn't suitable for that whole video. I
think the reason why that video probably
doesn't suit for that the video you made
that the sorry I think the testimony
that you included for Emily being
included in that in that video uh the
mistake was that you gave her
no time
no highlight even though she's the
biggest accusation in this video and
she's apparently the most important
accusation you want to present but you
[\h__\h] threw this accusation in
literally an hour and 30 minutes into
the video and then instead of hearing
from Emily herself, it's a follow-up
conversation with Courtney Pete, who's
not [\h__\h] relevant, and they talk
about how apparently flashing titties is
consent, but also saying that you like a
guy isn't consent, and there's no such
thing as implied consent. And it was
like, what the [\h__\h] was that? Maybe
that's the reason why it shouldn't have
been included in that video because you
guys don't know how to discuss this
topic without sounding brain dead as
[\h__\h] Metalman with the two. Do you
think anyone read this script? No.
>> No.
>> Do you think KP read the script?
>> No.
>> To put like a little bit of
understanding in on this too on how
something like this gets made. It's like
you got to consider that when when you
find yourself in like mine or KP's shoes
when we're like working on a video about
somebody else, you know?
>> Uh it's very easy to find all the shitty
things someone did and then just want to
like throw everything at the wall,
right? Yeah.
>> And you got you really got to be be
levelheaded enough to be like actually
no. Let's only talk about the things we
could substantiate and let's have our
perspective of this person be shaped by
the actual evidence and not any
preconceived notions. Also KP doesn't
have that restraint.
>> Yeah. The only thing KP had before
getting Emily's testimony is she's
friends with the guy who made a sex joke
about me. That's all she really had. It
was a personal [\h__\h] stint. And as
soon as she gets this accusation fall in
her lap, she's like, "Finally, I have
something else to go at him for." And
>> I mean, I will say that the the the
quote unquote joke made about KP was was
pretty [\h__\h] up.
>> No, we
and it's like if KP just talked about
that and was like, "Yeah, Saber Spark
was being unccommunicative, unhelpful,
and then I guess a like forgave the guy
on my behalf."
>> You know, it's it's whatever. I like if
you watch the the video where KP
confronts the guy, he does apologize for
what he did,
>> but KP doesn't necessarily accept it.
And I don't think KP is under any
obligation to keep that [\h__\h] to herself.
But it's like when you combine that with
>> everything you possibly could throw at
him, it's like well like 60% of this is
unsubstantiated or buried in controversy
and then like maybe like 40% of it is
like rooted in something valid. But, you
know, it's kind of like the the bath
water's already dirty. Let's just throw
it all out. That that's where you'll
leave your average audience member.
>> And I think the fact of that, too, is
like should someone be fired from a job
for for actions they took before they
were employed? Like,
>> I'm not saying there's an answer to that
because there really isn't. It's really
a case- by case basis. But like I think
the ethical question of the whole thing
is should you fire someone for making a
joke they have apologized for whatever
that joke might be that was like maybe a
few years before they were even hired
when they were like younger. I don't
know. I don't have an answer to that
question. I'm not the one I would say
that it's like I would say that it's
like acceptable to hire dude but at the
same time I think KP would be within
their right to voice their disdain.
>> Yeah.
>> Like but the thing is that's not what
happened here. We we just like we're we
are She went in there with the goal of
trying to get the guy fired and figured
the best way to do that was to throw
everything they possibly could at the
wall to either cancel their employer or
to like get them pressured, removed,
panicked from the actual job itself.
which again from the outside looking in
is just a very vindictive move that's
like rooted not really in the tragedy of
what actually happened but rather in
personal vindictive feelings afterwards.
Exactly. If KP's video was about, hey,
the animation community allows people
who are predatory in some way to be to
get to get work. They they network and
they're allowed to get jobs without any
consequence of their actions. That would
be a very specific video that wouldn't
require 80% of what she included.
>> If all her video was was saying, "Hey,
this guy made a really inappropriate
joke. No one takes me seriously when I
say this is a bad joke. Maybe we can
talk about like having a safer community
for animators." That'd be another video.
It would also be 20 minutes long.
>> I mean, it would probably be a lot more
watchable and more wellreceived. Like,
holy [\h__\h]
>> Yeah, because that's that's a topic.
That's a topic right there. Hey, we
>> This is not a hard win to get, but KP
really makes it look [\h__\h] hard.
>> Yeah, exactly.
>> Notrade dead with the five. I'm
surprised KP came back. Like, leave
Saber alone, lol. Literally. Literally.
>> Anyways, I have to make sure that I'm
off before seven, so let's not
>> Oh, he's driving by talking too many
side things.
>> Don't worry, we got like two We got like
There's no way that an hour and a half,
>> right? It's fine. It's 10 minutes. We
can get through this. I promise.
>> 8 minutes.
>> Yeah, we could get through this, guys. I
promise.
>> What were pointed out about my video was
the tone. The general consensus was that
the tone throughout the video was jokey
and that I came across as making light
of some serious accusations and
conversations as well as my social media
postings leading up to the release of
the video. My postings came across as
bragging, clout chasing, and once again
that I was making light of a serious
situation.
>> I'd like to firstly apologize for anyone
who was hurt by my tone. Both
>> I'm sorry. Hold on. Wait, wait, hold on.
>> Of a serious situation.
>> It was important. Everybody,
>> I'd like to firstly apologize for anyone
who was hurt by my tone both throughout
the video and on my socials. My joking
and memeing was contained to my own
experiences as I deal with my own trauma
that way. I
>> didn't know that she was Moses and her
own experiences.
>> You see, I don't think this is a good
part of the apology. I'll be honest with
you. Most people say it's a
>> All right, let's bring up a bad part of
this apology. Let's bring up the list
again, everybody. I have to get Sans out
of the way. All right, guys. Here's the
list again. So, I will give a pro.
Where's my mouse?
>> The [\h__\h] Oh, there it is. All right,
I'm going to give a pro. I know this is
going to seem really nice off the bat.
Here's the pro.
>> We're trying to be nice.
>> She did say them. She said sort of the
words, "I'm sorry." Sort of. She said,
"I apologize." Which is a variant. So,
at least the words I'm sorry, came out
of her mouth. Um, we're gonna start with
uh as a pro
says I'm sorry.
>> Yeah, she doesn't do that.
>> I'm sorry.
>> That that is a thing she actually did in
fairness.
>> Yeah. However, I find the way what she's
apologizing for weird because
>> as somebody who is very jokey, even in
videos about serious stuff that I post
on my channel, the tone
was an issue. You put sign you're
talking about something that you
consider to be literally 18 plus child
exploitation [\h__\h]
>> right?
>> And or or or or like these rape
accusations and you're putting Seinfeld
memes in there.
>> Like not even like funny memes, but like
the kind of memes like a like my mom,
>> you know, would have enjoyed,
>> right?
>> Like like Facebook grandma memes. I I
think she should apologize for making
bad jokes more than anything else.
It's it's like
>> uh you go. Sorry.
>> The thing is who the jokes what what the
the jokes who they who they expense of
who are they making fun of? Who are the
jokes teasing? You know, like
>> exactly like I don't know.
>> Hold on.
>> We are sorry.
>> Oh god.
>> We're sorry.
>> Sorry.
>> We're sorry.
>> It really does cause
>> the seal literally at the end of the
video.
>> Sorry. Sorry.
>> We're sorry.
>> This is it right here. Yeah.
>> What?
>> Sorry.
>> Amazing. Thank you. Thank you, chat.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And like the thing is she
should really be apologizing to that
Eggman cosplayer for like using his copy
of the Snap Cube Eggman gag. That should
be who she should be apologizing for cuz
he was the most wronged of any party I
think cuz he still hasn't gotten
compensation for that.
>> Well, I think the main thing that ment
I helped him with the script. So, the
main problem that was the issue with the
video was not even really the jokes and
stuff. It was just that it had no flow.
Like it was just
>> so many jokes compiled in that you kind
of just forget what the [\h__\h] we're
talking about. Like if that video had
any flow, had any clear message at all
cuz it was all over the place. the jokes
hour long.
>> It might have been an hour long and the
jokes wouldn't have been there at that
point because [\h__\h] we're trying we're
>> we're entertainers by the end of the
day. Like it's kind of a given, you
know, to try to at least make some light
of something you're talking about that's
serious on the internet because you're
an entertainer. That's your job. But
like
KP's not funny. I don't I don't know how
to say it other than KP's not funny.
It's like it's not only like jokes that
don't quite land, but the the the jokes
are also just like insensitive. And it's
like I don't know how why you thought
that this would go like like what kind
of audience reaction are you trying to
get by saying these things? And it's
like I I think this is more cathartic to
you
>> than it is
>> to anyone else. And I guess that like
the selfishness of that is like why
people call that out,
>> right?
>> Yeah. Well, I I think you got to be
mindful of who's affected by the jokes,
you know, like I think a lot about with
true crime. Uh I've said this before a
couple times the podcast last podcast on
the left.
>> I love them. I love them.
>> They're fantastic. They're great. Right.
They're fantastic. What works about and
they're very funny and they make a lot
of, you know, off-color dark jokes, but
what works about the jokes, and I'm not
saying they always do this, but this is
what they typically do. The jokes are
made to belittle the killers or the
criminals and elevate those who are
victimized.
>> Yeah. Like calling Jeffrey Dmer a
[\h__\h] is okay, but calling the victims
a [\h__\h] is not.
>> Exactly.
>> It feels like with KP's video, the jokes
were not done to, you know, offer
feedback or offer criticism alongside
her commentary. It was just done to make
a stupid joke without any real
intentionality to it. It wasn't done to
diminish the crimes allegedly committed.
It wasn't done to elevate those who are
hurt by what happened. It was just done
to like
>> make a dumb joke. There's no there's no
mindset behind it and it just doesn't
work in my opinion for that reason.
>> It wasn't done to
>> just I I heard I heard our stream going
on.
>> I'm rechecking that we're still live
because my computer said
>> stream to stream combat. We are still
live.
>> Okay.
>> That for you. If if we are not live, I
will let you know. I have the stream
running at the same time.
>> Same. Same
>> because it like my computer decided to
free.
>> We can also read super chats free if
you'd like.
>> Taylor Nan with the $5. I honestly felt
like she was mocking the concept of
essay and not the perpetrators of essay.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Valid.
>> Like I don't I'm not convinced these
people even [\h__\h] know what the what
the hell essay is or
>> Right.
>> I'm I'm sure Courtney Pete understands.
>> Sure. Great. But like also
>> yeah, that's about it.
>> She's insane.
>> From what I from what I understand, they
like went through like issues with like
Court, sorry, Lily. And that's that's
all [\h__\h] bad. And I I don't mean to
diminish it, but like the stuff that
I've heard about, you know, their
opinions and what they're saying during
the live stream does not really give me
a positive indication on whether or not
they are in the know of like what the
[\h__\h] they're even talking about or user
experience in place of like actual like
>> it just feels like they haven't actually
done the work to deconstruct the trauma
they've been through and they feel like
being on the internet and being the
ultracaped of
>> victims is their healing. But it's it's
not like it's just
>> they the thing is as someone who's spent
an uncomfortable amount of time with
Courtney and with
>> an uncomfortable amount of time.
>> Yeah. I I can assure you that neither
have ever unpacked anything they've ever
talked about. They just want to be they
just want to be known for catching
predators. There's nothing
>> for whatever reason. Even though they're
cartoon reviewers. What the [\h__\h] Well,
>> yeah. Well, everyone told them it's a
bad idea.
>> Everyone told them it's a bad idea, but
they just wanted to anyway. But they
were not qualified. They just but they
wanted to be known for you know I think
a part of it there is some good I will I
will give them some form of good
motivation here.
>> I think they want to be they want to
know they helped people
>> charitably. That's what I'll say.
>> But I also think that that that desire
is tinted by their selfish desire to be
known for helping people.
>> Right.
>> I honestly I I I agree with that. like
pretty much like the the the main
through line from everything I've seen
KP do is that well KP got a very
successful video after throwing um the
Lily Orchard to the side, which again KP
was literally batting for Lily Orchard
>> while her other friend Josh Scorcher was
actively being stalked and harassed by
Lily. So, I you know that [\h__\h] that that
shit's all over, you know, like I'm glad
that you know she changed her video, but
like let's not pretend
>> that
that there wasn't some intentional local
blind spot
that there's also the fact that that KP
was privately very cruel to some ex
Orchard fans too. Like there were some
Formula Orchard fans who I've interacted
with who I'm friendly with who KP
privately harassed
>> even after the fact for reason.
>> I didn't hear about that.
>> Oh yeah. No, there's I I I mentioned
this on my live stream a while back and
I forget the exact details. There's one
fan of Lily Orchard who was fans who was
still a fan of Lily's at the time but
gradually after seeing all the content
coming out of her came to their senses
and kind of backed off of them who KP
was privately bullying and like really
viciously.
>> Jesus.
>> Again, I forget the specifics, but
>> I mean Yeah.
>> Yeah. Just just catty high school bully
behavior is the problem. It was just
mean. It was It didn't accomplish
anything. It was just just meanness, you
know?
>> Yeah. I I I could I could [\h__\h] see
that. Like
>> do I need to bring up censorship sands
again? How long do I have to have my
screen
>> in a bit? In a bit. When we get to the
next chapter, you bring them up.
>> I will make dark jokes and make light of
my own situations. Something I do.
>> Well, that's another thing. Hold on. I'm
going to play that one more time.
>> Trauma that way. My joking and memeing
was contained to my own experiences as I
deal with my own trauma that way. I make
dark jokes and make light of my own
situations. something I didn't realize
was not universal and might come off as
if the tone pertained to anyone's
experiences that weren't my own. And I
>> No,
>> but it's not but it's not her
experience.
>> Wasn't it? I thought this was I thought
this was also like about you know the
Courtney stuffing
these victims.
>> Like if you're platforming somebody
else's story, how do you know that you
joking around about your own trauma is
going to be the same way about how they
will deal with the current trauma that
they're coming on your channel for? The
[\h__\h] Like that doesn't work like that.
Also, I know plenty of victims of this
[\h__\h] They joke about the [\h__\h] all the
time.
>> Isn't there like victims of EA games and
victims of like Sabers and victims of
like Chris like that aren't
>> No, it's that's what was being alleged,
right?
>> She understood it. Yeah.
>> Well, the only victim of [\h__\h] Chris
is her. Apparently, DA Games does have a
couple of people that have come forward,
but because KP butchered this whole
thing, they've all [\h__\h] off. And the
only victim of Sabersburg was Emmy
Jones. We all saw how that turn out. Uh
TECXX
of the Five. KP acts like a high
schooler while being old enough to be a
damn counselor.
>> She's too old to be a counselor,
honestly.
>> Yo,
>> is she is she Wait, is she the oldest
person on the screen?
>> Is she the oldest?
>> She's almost 40.
>> Really?
>> Wait, what? She's older than me.
>> She's he's like 38 37 I think. Something
like that.
But no,
>> I'm like to give you guys an idea, I'm
like 27 now and I got popular in 2014
and KP was popular two years before
then.
>> Creepy. We are so old.
>> And going to con old. I say the oldest
person in this conversation we're
talking
Gator Creations with the 20. I just got
here. Why do you need Sams? Uh,
>> don't worry about it.
>> We're proud of Sans.
>> I still have all of my hair. I haven't I
I haven't like gone down the like
nostalgia critic angry video game nerd
route of becoming
>> You are all not old enough to I mean I
shouldn't say that. I know I've known
20-year-olds who got bald, so I
shouldn't say that. But like still like
I I have all my hair. I'm just gray.
That's my problem. I'm just really gray.
>> When I Now you're making Now you're
making me feel old all over again,
>> dude. When I go gray, I'm going to rock
that [\h__\h] so hard. I will be the silver.
>> Exactly. Gray hair is great. Love gray
hair.
>> Look, I'm pretty sure KP was traveling
though, like when before like I was even
a YouTuber.
>> So, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if
they're like 40 or like near that area.
>> I know. Lily's my age roughly. Lily is
roughly my age, I think. So, I don't
know.
>> All right.
>> I guarant I'm the youngest person in the
call. I'm realizing at the age of 24 uh
recently. Yeah, I'm 33. So,
>> why is everyone I meet 30 years old?
Why? God,
>> I'm I'm still in my 20s.
>> I know that creepy, but we're in our
mid20s.
>> Realizing I've been meeting a lot more.
>> It means I'm not a stupid high schooler
anymore.
>> True. [\h__\h]
>> I I'll say this. Being is fantastic
because you have disposable income that
you can use to have fun things and it's
great. It's fantastic. I don't give a
[\h__\h]
>> Just like just like my hero DSP.
>> God damn it.
>> Hold on. Hold on.
>> That's great.
>> Sabersburg is five years older than her.
That can't be right because Sabersburg's
35. So that can't be right.
>> Makes no sense. Hang on.
>> I don't think I don't There's no There's
no way I live in a world where KP is
only 30.
>> No, she's older than 30. If there's a
bigger age gap than that, I think there
might be a mistake.
>> You know what? It doesn't matter. We're
moving on.
>> K's 32. I thought she's older. Okay, I
mistake.
>> We're moving on.
>> I do want people to understand that it
was directed at my own experiences, but
I'm sorry that it didn't translate
properly. Another thing,
>> okay, the words I'm sorry did come out
of her mouth. Yay,
>> dude. You can't really that that you
can't give that. You can't I'm sorry.
You just
>> a window a wins a win.
>> You got a window. If you if you if you
pull the I'm sorry, you're upset card.
You're not really apologizing, are you?
>> Is that what Okay. She's sorry. I'm
sorry I bothered you. Not like I'm sorry
I said it. That's what she's saying.
>> I'm sorry you're offended by what I did.
>> I'm sorry you didn't get my humor. I I
guess it's just not universal. You know,
no one else gets me, you know.
>> Hey guys, I I just want to say I'm
really sorry that I burnt your house
down. It looked really flammable cuz you
built it out of straw and it was really
cool to watch it burn on fire and then
your wife die. But you know what? Hey,
all good. Uh, I I promise you I won't do
it to you again cuz you don't have a
house again.
>> You wouldn't find it funny. Yeah,
exactly. You wouldn't get it.
>> You You clearly didn't appreciate the
joke when put put a bunch of gasoline on
your house and set it on fire. Like, you
really didn't
>> understand the genius at work here,
>> dude. I love a creative arson, you know?
It's it's it's
>> your fault for not getting it, honestly.
>> Like, come on, dude. Your your your
house was part of a statement. It was a
part of a statement about how our
society is oppressed to the core with
everyone who's rich taking from everyone
who's not. And we live in the society
where this money that they take goes
into a trust fund and that trust fund
lands in the hands of one YouTuber and
that YouTuber is me.
>> I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
>> All right. Yeah.
>> Hi, Sunny. You're so cool. Sorry. that
this this whole [\h__\h] response so far
has has like cuz like I've already seen
this on my own time, but like it's all
this has always felt a lot like um hey,
I'm sorry that you guys didn't get it.
>> I'm sorry I failed to communicate what I
meant and what I meant was everything I
said just differently
>> in a way that you'd understand.
>> Bomberman with a five. I thought Anthony
was around his 50s, dude. What do you
mean?
>> Jesus Christ.
He doesn't look that old. He's just
>> Why would you think that?
>> I don't know.
>> God damn it.
>> I just read it anyway.
>> Oh, I know. I feel offended.
>> Bubonic here knows.
>> All I'll say is Anthony does look a bit
like a Discount Mother's Basement.
>> Yo, shut up. I
>> I'll accept I can accept that.
>> I mean I mean that in the best way. He's
one of my favorite YouTubers. All right.
You know, I'll accept that. I that
that's that's better than being told I
look 50. So, I accept that.
>> Bubonic Tonic. To be fair, I got
compared to babyface JD Vance in this
stream. Y'all worse. Shut the [\h__\h] up.
>> Yeah, it's way worse.
>> Bumic tonic with the five. When my dad's
house burnt down, we didn't understand
the energy company's joke.
>> I know I'm not like on camera right now,
but like
>> yo, we are at gold.
>> You know, a lot of people say I just
look like white Mudahar, which has been
increasingly less flattering over the
years.
>> That's actually the That might be worse
than JD Vance. I'm not going to lie. I'm
sorry.
>> Uh, Dark Enigma with the thousand CLP.
Logan Paul's apology was more genuine
than KPs. That is goal, by the way,
chat. Congratulations. We hit goal.
>> Oh, woo. Congrats.
>> You know, you know what's [\h__\h] up
about that? Like, I I do genuinely
believe that like Logan Paul probably
was a lot more genuine.
>> True. I think so.
>> Than I mean, or or at least sounded a
lot more genuine than KP did.
I made a severe and continuous lapse in
my judgment.
>> Oh man,
Logan Paul is such an entity. Like I I
man, I'm currently writing a character
in my screenplay who's a parody of Logan
Paul and Keemstar in one person.
>> There we go. Okay, we need to shoot the
uh bubbles now.
>> Star.
>> All right, Chad, do do we get one gun or
two?
two always.
>> Huh? What do you guys want?
>> Why would we not do two?
>> Type one in the chat now.
>> Say psych.
>> Say psych right now.
H. Thank you guys once again for
contributing to my church. I'm so happy
my gun is not dead. Eat up kitties. Eat
your bubbles.
Anyway,
God.
Oh god. I need to get like one of those
like plastic cases to put my webcam in
cuz at some point I'm going to spray too
many bubbles on it and then I'm going to
break it.
>> Anyway, anyways, we're going to go back
to watching this now
>> and make light of my own situations.
something I didn't realize was not
universal and might come off as if the
tone pertained to anyone's experiences
that weren't my own. And I do want
people to understand that it was
directed at my own experiences, but I'm
sorry that it didn't translate properly.
Another
>> Yeah, I don't know if that's like a
>> I'm sorry to you were wrong, guys.
>> It sounds her apology is so weird cuz I
feel like she's apologizing for the
wrong thing.
>> Like
compare this to like the completionist
apology. Like imagine if like Gerard
just came out and was like, "Guys, I'm
sorry that you thought it was
embezzlement."
>> H interesting.
>> Like like it's just like this this
argument doesn't really work like cuz it
there's no acknowledgement of anything
of any wrongdoing really, you know? It's
just
>> Yeah. I mean, she does acknowledge some
things that people had critiques of,
which is like the tone and stuff like
that, but like the big thing that
>> she acknowledges that people have
critiques. She doesn't give in and say
that she agrees with them. She just
acknowledges that the critiques exist
and are born from some sort of
misunderstanding.
>> Right? Like when
>> when I made my video, I understand that
the problems with I went through the
pros and cons of that video and I
understood what the cons were because
I've had long conversations about them.
I presented them as guys, this is where
I [\h__\h] up. Like this is where you what
you do not do. Take it from me. This is
what I should not have done. She's the
most she has dived into how bad her
video was was just oh the tone was bad.
Not that the accusation that she hosted
to her channel was incorrect. Not that
she has a conversation where she implies
that like implied consent is not real,
which could be really dangerous for a
lot of people who are like in situations
of like being in a sexual encounter and
not really sure, you know, where to go
with that. And learning that just saying
just going with the motions could be a
rape apparently cuz they said so or
whatever the [\h__\h] Not that it was, you
know, taking a bunch of people's
different testimonies and smashing them
all together and hoping to God someone
would make sense of it. Not that she
threw Lily Orchard randomly in the end
and then argued with a [\h__\h] Reddit
post that criticized her for no reason.
It was just, oh, I just made bad jokes
and that took away from the intent of
the video, I suppose. And I'm like,
>> if you can believe it, Lazy, this is the
extent of what she actually apologized
of what she says in these.
>> Do you think Leo Convoy is still back in
this [\h__\h] or
>> Lio told uh KP not to do this?
>> Yeah, right.
>> Well, also he doesn't
>> if if he's telling you not to do
something, that's a sign.
>> Okay. Okay.
>> Good to know that he's on the right side
of history on this one. on this one
thing,
>> one topic
>> from what I've been told, right? Cuz
Becket made his video where he unleashed
all of their DMs. And her final message
to Becket was that, "Oh, you took me out
of context. You didn't have my best
intent in mind. I thought you were an
ally, but you're not. You just think I'm
stupid. If you need to contact me any
further, you can I redirect to Lio
Convoy, basically."
>> Yeah, that's why that's why I asked
because that's the thing. Lio's not in
connection to her anymore. I've asked
Beck and I'm like, "Is that actually
real?" and he's like, "No, they don't
talk anymore." So, I'm like, "Okay,
cool. Great."
>> I It's funny like KP's found a way to
burn every single possible bridge with
anyone who was conceptually ever going
to talk to her.
>> Right.
>> Well, so including including Courtney.
>> Yeah. We Well, I don't know if that's a
public bridge or a private bridge. I
think it was OP who brought it up in a
stream or something that that she had
said public ties which means that they
might still be talking behind the
scenes.
>> I mean I don't care if they are talking
behind the scenes cuz like what matters
to the public is the public, right? Like
>> I don't care if you're friends with
Donald J. Trump in your off time, right?
Like that's not going to as long if that
if that's not okay.
>> Yeah. Yeah, if that's like not in your
content and I don't have to hear about
it, then I don't care what you do in
private.
>> Mhm. Address
>> as long as it doesn't hurt anyone
ultimately. You know,
>> if you're not if you're assuming that
you're not like a part of what's, you
know, [\h__\h] going on over right now in
in current world politics, you know,
>> well, he wants to go over to certain
island.
>> Release the FC files. Release the FC
files. Anyway,
>> Courtney Pete and her treatment of
another CSA survivor in the live chat of
the video premiere. I have spoken to
both Courtney and the affected
individual. apologize on Courtney's
behalf. And going forward, since she
doesn't want to apologize herself, I'm
cutting public ties with her. While I
can't control the actions of another
grown individual, I can control how and
if she is associated with my work
channel.
>> Now, I'd like to take
>> I mean, I would
>> and that's
>> I would argue that telling somebody that
they hope they get anally raped is
probably a good indication to cut ties
with that person. Not not the fact that
I mean the CSA insulting a survivor
during the live chat that's pretty bad.
I do agree that is remove worthy in its
own right. I would say also hoping that
people you don't like get raped. Also
pretty pretty good reason. I think
that's a great reason actually.
>> Yeah. Well that's how she's apologizing.
>> Bothered me about
>> the vibe that I got for Courtney is that
it's it's always like a my way or the
highway situation.
>> Absuckingly.
And and if you don't if you don't like
agree with me and it's like listen buddy
I I could understand even if like like
just assuming that there's anything
actually wrong with like what they said.
Let's just assume that they are right
about everything that they said.
>> You're not going to change minds and
hearts which is like the point of making
a video is like this um by telling
everybody that they're wrong and stupid
unless they believe in you,
>> right? It's like you got to prove
yourself that you're a person worth
listening to and it doesn't really
matter if you're like because like there
are like scientists who have studied
this that no one [\h__\h] listens to.
Like what makes you any more credible
than they are? You know, it's just like
being a little humble just be expressing
yourself without putting other people
down is going to go so much farther in
getting people to see your point of
view. And I don't understand why they
seem to be pretty against doing that.
>> Right. Well, the thing also is they've
eject anyone who isn't entirely on their
side. Like I made a post uh a while back
while back when
>> I heard that you caused a schism.
>> Yeah, I I didn't cause a schism. I was
basically responding to a schism already
in motion and then I got like became the
figurehead of said schism. Like the
schism was happening.
>> Yeah. Because I the it was already
happening. I just Luther of their world.
>> Yeah. Well, at the end unintentionally
like all that happened was she was
freaking out about um the user size
scribbles and I and I was like, "Hey,
I'm kind of concerned about Courtney. If
anyone knows her, can you check in on
her because she doesn't sound I got
public. I made my mistake was making it
public. I It was It was a genuine
sentiment. I'm like, "Wow, she doesn't
seem like she's going through a good
time." And that was my mentality. It was
purely like, "Oh, she's not doing too
well." Um I'm thinking like, "Oh, maybe
someone in her life can like reach out
and talk to her." And I felt like if I
made a public post about it, it would
like alert more people to give her the
help she needs. Not
>> That's where you [\h__\h] up. That's where
you [\h__\h] up.
>> That was my mistake. Yeah, that's my
mistake. Exactly. Now, my intentions
were good, but in hindsight, you're
like, "Oh, yeah, obviously this, that,
and the third reasons why."
>> I I can see how that could be read not
in in the most charitable light. But hey
man, you know, AP didn't have your best
interest at heart and no clearly wasn't.
>> That's before with KP, too. That's when
KP tried using Courtney as an attack dog
against me cuz I talked about the
project. she didn't write anything for.
And I'm like, "Hey, you know, KP and I
are gonna collaborate on something. It
just didn't work out." And you know,
that's fine. And KP was like, "What? Why
didn't you clear this with me first?"
I'm like, "Um, what should I should I
clear with you saying a project I was
working on that you did nothing for
didn't work out without assigning blame
to anyone?" Like, come on, man.
>> I've told you. Have I told you yet,
Aunt, about the time that KP tried to
get me to stop Lazy from talking to you?
>> Yes. Yeah. Well, no. Actually, I think
Lazy told me, but like I knew about it
already. And that's [\h__\h] wild
already, right?
>> Which it's again cuz the entire the
entirety of my dynamic with KP is hers
is like ah Phineas is a vessel to talk
to Lazy and that's it. I I modded for
her for uh checks notes seven months
like tried to help out with her server
because I
>> You're just such a clout hungry. They
are like
>> dude I mean like I mean naturally like
guys I look I I it's not about it's not
about the money Spider-Man. It's about
the clout. It's about the
it's about it's about the clout. Like
working in the situation I I didn't get
>> Phineas. You don't understand. Phineas,
you don't understand. I need pictures of
lazy bed.
>> Yeah.
>> No. So it's like
>> I mean Phineas, you you've you've talked
to people who are like pretty big in
YouTube.
>> I know Mr. beast.
>> Yeah, exactly.
If you were just a clout chasing like
jerk, you would like be a clout chasing
jerk. Neither of us jerks,
>> but it's like the whole thing for me is
I I do I did join the mod staff to try
and help with the um the whole Black
Griffin stuff cuz I was starting to
follow that around the that year and I
was going to see I'm like, "Okay, I
>> too is that like not only do you know
Mr. Beast, but you [\h__\h] know me. you
know, lazy, you know, like like a a ton
of YouTubers and you don't really go
around
>> bragging about. I mean, like I'm like
[\h__\h] twice KP size, if not three
times the size,
>> you know, and KP barely knows me, you
know? I don't know. I'm just I'm just
saying like it's such a disingenuous
accusation to throw at someone. And the
fact that you like that she even cares
>> about who someone knows and doesn't know
is so [\h__\h] up. The the ongoing joke
between friends and I with me, right, is
I am
>> probably one of the most connected non
even I'm more connected than most
channels like multiple times my size,
you know? Uh
>> yeah. Yeah. And honestly, that's [\h__\h]
alien to me. But I mean, I'm I'm happy
that someone like you exists.
>> Listen, if I I stage fright talk to
normal people, let alone big YouTubers.
So, I get that
>> if I'm I was a little nervous coming in
here and meeting Anthony. Like I was
like,
>> Jesus, really? Why?
>> You've been eat a lot.
>> Yeah, but I don't have a particularly
big channel. I just [\h__\h] yap.
>> Yeah. Yeah. You laugh about things I
like to hear about.
>> That's I appreciate that. I'm glad you
do because it's nice knowing that my
stuff entertains people, honestly.
>> Well, it's like one of the other funny
things is it's like a and I have like
other mutual connections that I've like
met completely independently, right?
because it's like, oh, okay, the the the
other thing as far as it goes, um I
think a lot of people who are cloud
chasers go from one person's cl to
another. I will go out of my way to meet
like whatever people on my own. I'm not
just like solely riding the high of oh
this person I of like having my friend
>> like going to VidCon trying to [\h__\h]
fight Jar or some [\h__\h]
>> I would pay to see you fight Jar though.
That'd be fun.
>> No, but for totally different reasons
though. I just like see
>> Phineas. Phineas sounds like muscle man.
I know someone who could help.
>> Well, so with with
>> funny
>> I know someone who could help. the
reason why I emerged in the space in
general and like for for like the star
giant thing. The the main reason that I
like got involved and got something to
happen with like Star was because I know
um Shrillis and I alerted him of uh Star
being in his server and uh he banned her
and then I and then basically that was
like my like key into helping put that
situation to bed. That was what got got
got Star to fear me over everyone else
in the entire world
>> to this day that she still does or so
that that Star still does.
>> Your mortal nemesis
>> literally. Okay, we are only like 3
minutes into this. I have to be off to
go.
>> I have to be off before seven.
>> Maybe we should do a thing where we only
yap at the end of chapters.
>> Yeah,
>> sounds good.
>> Good notes. Okay, we will continue. We
are on in original intentions. Why are
there chapters to this? I hate that.
>> By the way, this is where the Sans
Undertale should come up.
>> Where's my censorship Sans? There he is.
All right,
>> this is after this chapter. You can
probably take You can probably get rid
of Sands Until after this chapter, but
this is like peak. You need to censor
this stuff.
>> Okay, cool.
>> Awesome. All right, time to go over my
original intentions of the video. The
conversation I wanted to start in the
message that fell short. Steven or
Sabers Spark employs an editor by the
name of Chris who owns a Discord server.
Chris is also employed by Will, who owns
the DA Games Discord server.
>> Look, I feel like this is all [\h__\h]
pointless. I don't mean to be a pause,
Andy, but this is all [\h__\h] pointless.
>> Why are we talking about this guy's
employment? Like, how does that effect?
>> Also, everyone knows what the story is.
That's the thing.
>> Lazy, before you say that, just remember
the story because she's about to
communicate it in the worst way humanly
possible.
>> I can't wait. Also, this is supposed to
be her apology video for the fact that
she made false accusations. We already
know about all this stuff, but nobody
[\h__\h] cares. Like, I can't I'm sorry,
but like you're
>> none of it matters. None of it matters.
>> I I guess I don't really like the term
false accusations cuz like even like
even if there's a slim possibility it
could be true, but what I prefer to say
is like unsubstantiated.
>> True. cuz like like like the burden of
proof is on her and like throughout this
whole [\h__\h] video she just doesn't
understand that the burden of proof is
on the accuser, not the defender. So
it's like when she's like, "Oh, what? He
didn't defend himself the best way." And
he made so Yeah. But like it's not his
job to prove that he's innocent. It's
your job to prove that he's guilty,
>> right?
>> Yeah. Continue.
>> Yeah. Go for it.
>> A lot of names to keep track of. I know.
Will has a passive posting pornographic,
racist, incestuous. No one saw any of
that.
>> Now you get it. Now you get a man has to
come for everything.
>> Why Why does she show a clip with the
n-word in it for like
>> Why does she show a man pulling off like
someone like just All of this is awful.
>> We love censorship chat. Can we get some
bubble donations for censorship sands
for saving my ass so I don't have to
worry about this stream later? Thank
you, Censorship Sans.
I'm I'm looking at the uh I'm looking at
like the unc uncensored stuff here and I
mean like some some of this like
obviously is like kind of cringe and not
even funny.
>> God, if if if I had been caught [\h__\h]
posting any of this [\h__\h] I'd have a bad
weekend.
>> Yeah, I
>> a Thank you so But at the same time,
like this is what you should have this
is what the other video should have been
frontloaded with, but it's a little too
late for that now.
>> Exactly. Well, that's the thing. Nobody
wants to touch the DA game stuff. Even
if there is something tangible there,
nobody wants to [\h__\h] touch it because
it's tied into all of this now and all
of the all of the victims have now
>> and that's all because KP did that.
>> Yeah, this is all needed to be coupled
together.
>> This is the thing she should be
apologizing for. Like it's good that
you're like highlighting these like
things now. I suppose if Will Ryan is a
bad person, but it's a little [\h__\h]
too late now. Now none of the
>> I don't understand like
>> you're just not him anymore, Chief. You
know,
>> you're just not him. You're just not
him, [\h__\h] You're not him. God
>> anti content in both his and Chris's
servers. His own server, the DA game
server, having children as young as 11,
maybe younger with access to these
posts. Not only do children as young as
11 have access to this content, but
there are also children as young as 12
given mod status. The same
>> all right. Kawaii girl with a $2. We're
gonna have a bad time. Thank you.
>> We are.
>> Thank you.
>> Where were these people that gave a [\h__\h]
about this kind of thing with the plague
moth stuff was going on?
>> Yeah, you guys got screwed with that.
I'm not going to lie.
>> I don't even like
>> that guy was a psychopath. Like
>> he sounds nuts.
>> He sounds crazy.
>> Yeah. Anyway,
>> has a man accused of and arrested of
child grooming. This is Will's own views
on how children should be interacted
with.
>> Fine, I'll read the thing. Are we done
with censorship, Sans? Are we good from
here?
>> Uh, I think it's okay now.
>> I think I can give this a read if you
want me to.
>> Go ahead with your your nice radio
voice.
>> Okay. So, it has been brought to my
attention that there are three names,
not going to name them, who have been
abusing our mod. Again, no name, but I'm
pretty sure you know who you guys are.
Calling out that because of age, they
shouldn't be allowed. Time and time
again, I can't believe I have to keep
mentioning this, but mods are not on
age, but sorry, mods are placed not on
age, but maturity. Imagine if we took on
a 41year-old who acted like a 5-year-old
and a 12-year-old who acts like a
>> You could you could do both.
>> Um
>> yeah, balance.
>> Well, let me uh Well, let me tell you
that uh tell you that has happened and
will happen periodically in the server.
>> Uh but life itself is not about age. It
is indeed about the level. That is that
is very critical.
>> Wait. Okay. with the comma's being
placed. Let me let me say this has
happened and will happen periodically.
Comma not in this server but life
itself.
>> I don't know for me when when I mod 12y
olds all the time obviously you got to
hire 12y old that's more mature than a
46y old clearly.
>> Does this mean a 12-year-old who acts 26
wasn't hired in the server?
>> I don't know dude. I
>> none of this makes sense. This is all
>> matters. So, this looks like this guy's
justification for having like miners as
mods. And like the way that I look at my
modders ship is that like they're not
like adults dedicated. I just give mod
status to anyone who's active in the
server in case some [\h__\h] goes on. No
one's required to deal with anything.
It's just if they're being annoying, the
most trusted community members have the
ability to deal with it. At least until
I can come in and make a final judgment,
>> right? because like you know I can't be
awake 24/7 but at the same time like no
one's under
>> you know like I I I just kind of do it
based on a a community sort of vibe and
it's not like a job or anything. It's
just hey keep the peace don't don't let
them do stuff. The automod should take
care of the worst of it.
>> Well also I think the the community
that's around DA games is like mostly
like a mix of people. And my my
philosophy has always been the internet
is a genie in a bottle. It's already
been unleashed. putting it back and
being like, "Nope, this can only be an
18 plus space now after we've had kids.
I've been a kid on the internet. I've
had this YouTube channel since I was
15." Like, it's like the genie is out of
the bottle. So, how do we deal with
that? By shoving it back in seems
pointless. And my philosophy has always
been just be respectful. Like, talk to
him about [\h__\h] video editing if
that's what you guys do or drawing or
whatever the [\h__\h] Don't talk to him
about sex or porn. Just be normal. Be
responsible adults. Be a mentor in the
community. Like it's not that hard to
just be an like to be someone to look up
to, not
>> to be not a weirdo.
>> Yes. Yeah. Just a big
>> or at least compartmentalize it. Make a
space for 18 plus and a space for like
all ages and never the tween shall meet
if that if you're so desperate for that
18 plus space, make it a space. My my my
advice is just to not engage with 18
plus material. If you're
>> Yeah. if you want to have kids. Like
just putting kids in a in a situation
where 18 plus stuff is like mixed is
just asking for trouble.
>> I don't know if DA Games has like
anything 18 plus in it. Like don't they
just mix like fan songs?
>> They just make Five Nights at Freddy's
fan songs. Like that's going that's a
boundary.
>> Don't they don't they do like the same
[\h__\h] that Jake Neutron does and stuff
where it's like fan nerdcore stuff.
>> So basically the problem is the problem
is KP is not making it clear what she's
talking about. if she made it more clear
and distinct as to what spaces and what
discords Will was running
inappropriately. If it was the general
presence for his audience and not like a
private his friends only server, we
would have a better understanding what
he's what she's even talking about. But
she's just not clear about this
information. It's all jumbled together.
So, we're forced to figure it out for
ourselves based on limited information.
And that's why no one
>> like the reason why I I I I criticize
other people for, you know, having child
mods isn't like because I think child
mods are inherently like a big no-go.
It's because like if you have an 18 plus
space, why the [\h__\h] do you have children
moderators
>> or just that was always the argument,
but I don't know if DA Games is running
in 18 plus space or if they're having
the the younger mods deal with 18 plus
content,
>> right? Um, so it it just I would have to
see more evidence of like misconduct. I
I do think that Will is being dumbier in
2016. Holy [\h__\h] The post is from 2016.
>> 8 years old post.
>> This is almost 10 years old. This is
This is one year off from being like 10
years old. Holy. We don't even know if
this guy still feels this way. In 12
years, this post can drink,
>> which is more than his mods can,
apparently.
>> Jesus Christ.
>> It's It's always best to bring up, too,
like the most like upto-date
information. You shouldn't you really
you really shouldn't be relying on a
post cuz like, yeah, this is his opinion
10 years ago. Like, who who the [\h__\h] has
the same opinion,
>> right?
>> Plus, like, no one showed up to this
video to hear her opinion on DA Games.
Yeah, they want
>> for the rape accusations.
>> Yeah, exactly. Nobody cares about any of
this and they no one will take even pick
the story up anymore because of how bad
she butchered it.
>> I just I don't even know what the [\h__\h]
Da g I still don't know like what the
accusation is or what super serious. I
just know I know that Chris has a
>> bad
>> She's just bad at telling the story.
That's why like you you get one shot and
you [\h__\h] it up and and that's what you
get from it.
>> Also one shot and all we got was mom's
spaghetti. Got it. Also,
>> exactly.
>> Not to be that guy again, but my
assistant director brain's acting up.
Let's continue this cuz we got now 53
minutes for for seven and a half minutes
left.
>> Right.
>> Thank god you didn't responsible,
Phineas. Really?
>> Remember, no pausing until we get to the
next chapter.
>> True.
>> Lucy Fields with the five. Getting
through KP's apology video is like
getting through the Sans fight.
Marker with the five. This Discord
message was sent in 2016. What proof do
we have that he still has this
mentality? Why do why pull out um
receipts that are almost 10 years old?
True. Anyway,
>> he hasn't
more mature that some 40-year-olds. I'd
like to point out that this is groomer
mentality. This is the same sort of
language used to make a child feel
special.
>> Girl, come on now.
I hate when these [\h__\h] bring up
>> Wait, what do we say? I'm not pausing
until the end of the section.
>> I'm sorry. and grown up when receiving
inappropriate attention from grown
people online or off. Not to mention
that Discord's own terms of service
state that the users must be 13 to even
be on the platform. Terms will and Chris
seem to be happy to help children break.
How and why does this pertain to Steven?
>> Well, great question.
>> Oh, here we go. End of chapter. You can
talk now.
>> Yeah, that's true. God, I just hate I
was going to say I hate when these
[\h__\h] cuz Emily does the same [\h__\h]
when they bring up actual like research
from real psychology and people who do
this.
>> It gives them more of an air of authent
like
>> Yeah, look guys, we've done our
research, but it's like it's paired with
you having to make an addressment video
where you present unstantiated claims
against somebody and nearly ruin their
YouTube. It's like, come on now, man.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, the big thing is
>> you can't sit there. You can't sit there
and tell me.
>> It's like you're not giving a [\h__\h]
TED talk. You have to attend things you
did.
>> We're we're we are missing something
here. Something very important.
>> Um why
why is she trying to make further claims
against Chris in this [\h__\h] addressing
apology video?
>> Is this apology video? Is that big
question? Here's a con. Like she is
apologizing.
I'm sorry.
>> It's not an apology video. It's a talk
apology video.
>> Oh my god. I can't tell if this
>> Yeah.
>> wants to even apologize.
>> Well, I I'll spoil this. She wants to
apologize if you didn't get her jokes.
>> Great. Just Okay,
>> but like like why are we like combining
like, oh, I'm sorry about the bad jokes
and I'm sorry about the presentation and
I [\h__\h] up here with the Okay, let's
also throw some more accusa. Don't you
think that these things should be the
these things should be separate?
>> My my handwriting is so I don't think
you saw the beginning of the video. Uh
KP wanted to apologize for putting too
much in one short video cuz she was
afraid you'd lose focus and not pay
attention if she didn't put every single
thought she had in the last four months
in 10 minutes.
>> I wonder if I speed this up if she's
going to still sound coherent. She
doesn't sound coherent on normal speed,
so you're not gonna miss it down a
little.
>> Slow the speed down.
>> No, keep it just normal.
>> Okay, fine.
>> I see an issue with the content creator
directly.
>> What? Oh, whoops. I forgot
>> leads to inappropriate interactions with
children online by providing a space
where it's normalized, welcome, and
defended. I see an even bigger issue
when that content creator has a history
of posturing himself against child
predators as being the voice that calls
them out, but is fine to employ people
who do this very thing he himself has
condemned in the past.
>> So now Chris is a child predator.
>> So now so now she's already Chris is a
child predator.
>> No, wait. He employs people who he's
like somebody's like, "Oh, I hate child
predators." like she's saying she's
posturing but oh but he'll work with
people who but the person you're talking
about that he hired sexually harassed
you when you were an adult and I'm not
saying that's good or bad or whatever
comparable I'm saying that your
accusation now is that he's wait a
minute
>> mean words to me think of the children
>> think of the children anyway hold on
hold on
>> base words normalized welcome and
defended I see an even bigger issue when
that content creator has a history of
posturing himself against child
predators as being the voice that calls
them out, but is fine to employ people
who do this very thing he himself has
condemned in the past.
>> Okay. The only thing I can think of that
she might even be implying here is the
the time when uh afficionado Chris was
posting lollycon in Will's server. Um,
there's some discrepancies in that in
which they were testing a bot so to see
if it removes any like pornography in
general, which also if you're going to
do that, I would probably do it before
you launch the server out to the public.
>> I wouldn't do it in a place that's
public.
>> True. Again, do that do that when the
servers maybe closed down or something
or before it launches officially
>> or in a room that only like mods can see
like
>> Yeah, exactly. But
>> I I don't I don't know what the context
is. All I know is like she probably
shouldn't be posting that.
>> That's the thing though. She doesn't in
this video she doesn't present why she
>> she doesn't address
>> why she thinks Chris guy. Yeah, cuz
she's saying, you know, this pertains to
Stephen because Steven hired uh Chris,
who also works for DA Games, right?
Well, now she's saying, well, that
person is a child predator, and Steven
likes to posture himself as a defender
of child predators. Why is he hired
child predator? And it's like, girl,
everything you just described previously
does not does. Why are you jumping
immediately to the conclusion that Will
is a child predator when you haven't
explained at all past this before this
point? Why you think that? All you said
is that he's made a bad joke about you.
Are you a child? I'm sorry. What the
[\h__\h] are we talking about? Well, I I I
think I think they were saying because
the person was giving children modship
in the server based on maturity,
>> at least in their own words. Um that
that that's what
>> like gave the claim that he was grooming
them,
>> which feels wrong. But Will did that.
That wasn't Chris. That's part that's so
bizarre. Like Will was the one who gave
children mod status. Chris didn't give
anyone mod status. Chris wasn't like the
admin of a Discord. He was just he was
just working for Will at some point in
time.
>> So, it's like it's like kind of like the
the transitive value of like child
predators, I guess. Like if you are near
a child predator by KP's eyes and you
move to another place, you're
transferring that child predation from
another server to
>> it. I would assume that like this would
matter if maybe Saber Spark knew about
it, but like she doesn't present any
proof that he did, so who cares? Like
what the [\h__\h]
>> Bomber man with the uh I get I get it.
You want him? Where's the apology?
Right.
>> Also, should we resume?
>> Yeah.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> And it isn't as if Steven has no idea
that this was going on under his nose. I
myself had reached out to him directly
and through at least two different
people to look into the issue and do
something about it. Despite my repeated
efforts to bring this issue to his
attention, Stephen never spoke.
>> Yeah, but he said, "I was never
contacted by any friend of yours, nor
did you ever make an attempt to reach
out to me on your own behalf via Twitter
Twitter email or so she's claiming,
yeah, I'm trying to get out to you, but
he's like, I just never saw it. No, no
friend of yours ever reached out to me.
Like, I don't
Also, these are all about Chris making
the joke about her."
>> Yeah,
>> the original video.
>> Yeah, to be fair,
>> to be fair, KP doesn't have friends, so
you're right. anyone who reached out
would not be kind of picky.
>> Right. But also all the I remember this
by the way. I remember this this Twitter
thing cuz she sent it to me as her
reason why Saber's included in her in
her coverage, right? And this was before
she told me there's a rape allegation
again. He's
>> this was before she I was told about
Emily. Um she sent this and being like
this is why Sabers in my coverage
because when I tried to tell him about
uh this Will guy, he did nothing about
it. But what she prefaces as like what
Will did, it was about the joke he made
to her to towards her. I didn't know
anything.
>> Chris, not Will.
>> Oh, sorry. God, these names are [\h__\h]
confusing. Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> She brings me on to the team. I'm like,
"Why is Saber Spark involved in your
video?" She's like, "Well, this guy
named Chris made a joke about me. I
tried contacting him and getting him
aware of this uh thing that Chris did
and Saber did nothing about his
behavior." And I'm like, okay, I didn't
even know that apparently Chris had
other or yes, Chris had other
accusations like maybe lollycon posting.
That wasn't ever something that I was
made aware of. The only thing that she
seemed to have been going after me when
she explained it to me was this [\h__\h]
joke. That's it. And it's like, well,
now you're positioning you attempting to
reach out to Saberspark to warn him that
somebody he works with was posting
lollycon in a server, right? as like
this is how many times I tried to reach
out to him. This is what I was trying to
get his attention for. [\h__\h] no the
[\h__\h] it isn't. I know that because you
told me that this thread was about the
joke he made 10 years ago that you
apparently got him to apologize for.
Like that's not what this is. You're not
reaching out to him on Twitter via email
or whatever the [\h__\h] because of the
Willow accusations of Lollipon. You did
it. because Will said a bad joke about
you. Like the context of why he wouldn't
be looking into this is because that's
not what you went to him about for. And
also Stephen showed the emails in his
video um that talks about your 2-hour
video. And in those [\h__\h] emails, you
accuse him of like having a herum of
fans that he wants to [\h__\h] Like this
isn't about Will or this isn't about
Well, it isn't about Will. This isn't
about this Chris guy that you apparently
have this big problem with that has
nothing to do with Chris. It's about you
trying to get get anything trying to aim
and hopefully getting a target on Saber
and you just keep missing. Like what the
[\h__\h] What's she supposed what is Saber
supposed to do with this realistically?
The [\h__\h]
>> Yeah, Lazy, the answer is that she's an
idiot.
>> Oh, we continue.
It's it very much is ma um what's it
called? Uh it is very much just
>> vindictive
like lingering emotions like [\h__\h]
clouding your judgment and it's like
everything else is just a retroactive
>> right.
>> She had four months and she's sued in
her rage the whole time. That's
>> pretty much pretty much.
>> Meanwhile, he was supposedly talking to
someone else about the same issue with
third party. Not to mention the fact
that Chris himself has admitted to and
bragged about a literal sex crime that
Stephen brushed off as a sex joke. If
>> yeah, now she brings up the joke. The
joke. That's the joke she's talking
about. If you pause it,
>> sexual harassment, but most people don't
go to jail for sexual harassment. They
just get fired from their jobs most of
the time. I wouldn't call them like
someone who should belong on the sex
offender registrate. I would just
consider that person socially inept.
like they're not a sex offender unless
they actually commit a sex offense. And
I don't think sexual harassment is a sex
offense.
>> Well, the whole thing with the original
video was he tried to conflate the joke
with it being real actions. She tried to
present Chris, here's Chris's joke. She
tried to make it sound in the video like
Chris actually did this
>> and it wasn't a joke.
>> I guess I can confirm that cuz like when
she reached out to me to be a part of
that video and I asked like what the
video is about and she gave me that
context, she did present it as yeah,
this is something that he did for real.
I wasn't aware that the context was that
it was a joke. Like the only reason I
was made aware of that was because that
that video um was I guess
>> he's claiming that it's a joke,
>> right?
>> But I mean it's still like a like it
doesn't matter if it's a joke or not. It
it's [\h__\h] up.
>> It's still weird. I don't disagree.
>> What like what the [\h__\h] is the joke of
like you know masturbating into someone
else's like underwear who is trusting
you? It matters from a legal standpoint
though. Like it it does actually matter
from a legal standpoint if it was
>> I'm not talking I mean like no nothing
legal is going to happen here, right? So
that's why I'm just not even considering
that. Like that doesn't No, no one's
going to get arrested over this. No
one's going to be investigated. Like no
no one
>> but someone could be sued if it if it
could affect job opportunities,
>> I suppose. But like I just don't
understand like when I when she says
this person could open herself up to
liability. Oh, she opens herself. She
opens herself up to a loss.
>> Saber spark. Saber Spark. Saber Spark.
Listen to me now. Sue this [\h__\h] No,
I'm just kidding. Okay.
>> All right. You zoom?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yep.
>> It should also be noted that in all of
Steven's responses to the allegations,
he has still not spoken on, condemned,
or cut ties with Chris, Will, or DA
Games. And once again, for someone who
not very long ago had plenty to say on
whether Gabriel Brown was or wasn't a
groomer, that child predation online is
terrible, and he himself has been abused
as a child, it seems odd that he has
nothing to say about his own employees
child predation even to condemn it. Let
alone him excusing masturbation onto a
stranger's clothes, a buyer hazard, and
sexual harassment as a joke.
>> A biohaz a biohazard. But the subtitle
said buyer hazard. I'm sorry. Makes me
laugh.
It's automated by YouTube. You got a
lot.
>> I know, but it's I know, but it's so
goofy. I I love how YouTube screws up
just slightly enough to make it funny.
>> God damn it.
>> But apparently uh Chris is now putting
biohazards in her just so I can get back
to normaly. Uh we're Okay, so the person
who
made the jerking off joke to KP is also
a child predator. that is based or or or
again based on KP's words
>> based on the fact that something to do
with lolly something to do with kids
being mods.
>> Mhm.
>> Maybe if you I'm not I'm not sure it
totally makes sense even with that
logic, but sure. That's the closest I
can come to.
>> Dude, I just can't believe Okay. Uh
Zecon Zirkcon, sorry. Zircon son with
the five saber pretty much can sue
thanks to the not apology. I mean,
>> 100%. And also, I just find it so funny
again, she's posturing about how this is
like um like a real thing that happened.
This was a biohazard. Oh my god. But
like, dude, it he he he says it himself
that it was I'm not excusing his
behavior. I think the joke was gross. I
think that like it is sexual harassment.
There's no arguing that it is
>> none none.
>> However,
>> it should not be defended. It should be
condemned. And it seems like all parties
condemn it. And I don't think the guy
needs to be punished forever for it. I
think it should be known that he did it.
>> Well, however, here's the point I'm
trying to get at. Here's the point I'm
trying to get at. Right.
>> It's I think when you're coming on the
internet, you need to address things and
I learned this the hard way. Obviously,
you need to address things as is like
from what is presented in the evidence.
And like if you overconlate things,
right? Um, and you like make leaps in
logic, like you look at the evidence and
then you make a leap in logic of what
it's supposed to be interpreted as or
whatever the [\h__\h] Uh, it makes you look
dumb. It makes you look like you don't
know what you're talking about. When we
talk about what happened between here
with the Chris thing, we hear all sides
and the conclusion, you know, should be
something that is rational to all of the
evidence that exists about it. What
exists about this whole thing is that
she confronts him in a call. He admits
that he said it. He says it was a joke.
And then he apologizes and her whole
thing is, "I don't ever want to talk to
you again cuz the joke was gross." Fair
enough. Perfectly logical in response to
all of that. But then to go around and
be like, "Guys, he actually did it and
he and he it was a biohazard and he's a
sex criminal." It's like, dude,
>> did you not listen to your own call?
>> Hire him.
>> Yeah. Did you not listen?
Like your own call goes against this
idea that he's a sex pest criminal
[\h__\h]
apparently a biohazard spreading his
seed everywhere. Like it's like
>> it's repulsive,
>> bro. Like just kind of the conflation of
that information is crazy. But anyway,
Emily's next. I can't wait to see what
they have to say about this.
>> And now on to Emily. In regards to
Emily's testimony and accusations
against Steven, she has released her own
video that will be linked in the
comments, and I encourage people to go
watch and hear her story from her own
mouth. While I don't regret believing
someone, I do understand that I wasn't
the best equipped to be the person
breaking a story like that to the public
for the first time. When it came to
other people's coverage of the
situation, whether or not they had
spoken from the person, a lot of my
intent with the video when I chose the
platform in it was assumed. Concerns to
me that are so much Wait, wait a minute.
Notice how she never says Emily's story
might not be true.
>> What script?
>> I'm sorry for believing her and I'm
sorry I [\h__\h] up the present. Dude, you
were like threatening that lady. Like
holy [\h__\h]
>> Mhm.
>> What script is this? Wait a minute.
>> My intent with the video and what I
chose to pl
>> Wait a minute.
>> Like to be honest, like the biggest
thing that KP has going for her is that
KP didn't make up the allegations. said
she was told by a third party.
>> Is this the Rebecca doc?
>> Wait,
>> read it. Hold on. Here's the worst case
scenario that Rachel has made a distinct
possibility. It's possible for Saber
Spark to have a sexual assault of this
woman two separate occasions. Rachel is
living in pony La La Land presented such
a poor case that she can be sued for
defamation over something that may be
true.
>> Who's Rebecca Doc at John's or
>> Oh, this is a Google doc that I wrote.
sounded like the Rebecca got because she
makes reference to La La Land. So, I
thought that it was that, but I guess
not. Okay, you wrote that. Okay. I I
thought that I was going to trip the
[\h__\h] out and I'm like, she knows about
the Rebecca doc. It's over, guys. The
crossover of the century just happened
right now.
>> Jesus Christ.
>> Anyway, for a minute was assumed.
Concerns to me that are so much
legitimate were and continue to be
brushed off as cloud chasing or jealous
women's scorn mentality. People who have
never spoken to me or heard my sight of
anything spoke with absolute authority
on my intentions and desires. And people
who didn't speak my [\h__\h] face.
>> Okay. So she she puts size video
>> Mhm.
>> when saying people who never heard my
side of the story, never spoke to me.
>> I know that internet Jason literally
reached out to her. So I know that
that's not true. But
>> yeah. So that's two of the three right
there who have had contact with her that
she put in people who never contacted me
and never wanted to hear my side of the
story. So I'm like that's that's not
true buddy.
>> That's that's just a lie right there.
Like
>> we're just we're just joining the
Fibbers club right here.
>> Yeah. And I can't speak for who's the
third person
>> that kid Douglas.
>> I don't know that one.
>> I think this person tried to reach out
to me actually but like I didn't know
anything about them. But anyway, no
actually KP sent them my way actually.
I'm pretty sure they're like
>> also to me for free.
>> I Jesus Christ. Anyway, authority on my
intentions and desires and people who
did speak to me in person painted our
conversations in a different light when
presenting them to her own cartoon.
>> She never talked to her
>> first of all. Okay. Okay, hold on.
>> People who did speak to me in person
people who did speak to me these two,
right? Cartoon she claim to have never
even spoke to her at all. So, this is
weird. Where in Mr. enters video. Did we
ever misconrue the the [\h__\h]
conversations we had because we were
trying to [\h__\h] help everybody
involved. And it's like, girl, we
weren't the one that sent over. I can't
believe she even had the whole segment
on Emily. Anyways, being like, you guys
need to listen to her story. When [\h__\h]
you literally flip-flopped. And I know
this because I spoke to you privately.
Enter. And I have spoken to you. You
would flip-flop so often on whether this
[\h__\h] was telling the truth or not based
on who the [\h__\h] you were talking to.
Like, come the [\h__\h] on now.
>> I didn't speak to her cuz she's afraid
of me.
>> Well, okay. You didn't speak to Phineas
because you're afraid of him. The
>> the
spirit.
>> The only thing Mr. Enter did was fix
KP's [\h__\h]
>> Yeah. Like, what the [\h__\h]
>> Like, you should be you should be on
your hands and knees like thanking the
guy for helping.
>> Why? Yeah. [\h__\h] me, dude. We were the
one that helped out your supposed victim
for months and did probably way more
question answering question and like
interview than you ever did. You just
kind of
>> at least like tried to understand what
was going on.
>> Like here's the difference. I think the
big difference is you believed Emily
because that meant that you had a
justification for hating Sabers Spark.
We listened to Emily and listened to her
story not because because we just we
wanted to know the truth. That's the
difference. You don't want to know the
truth. You want to know what's
convenient for you to justify your
hatred for this dude who you never got
to be friends with or whatever the [\h__\h]
I don't know. Like,
>> what's crazy also is that she's framing
it so that she's saying everyone else is
wrong. No one else is right. Just trust
me. I'm the only one you should listen
to. No one else you should listen to.
>> Okay. So, guys, what is he saying? I say
it's time that we get rid of all media.
Media's broken, guys. YouTube has to go
away. CNN, I'm sorry,
MSNBC. We need a stateaterun media
system where it's KP as the host.
>> Oh my god.
>> Hi guys. Thank you in the news.
>> Play Jimmy Kimmel with KP. That's that's
really what that's really hard.
>> I I think Donald Trump would love that.
>> No, I'm kidding. No, it's what the
people want.
>> She could change her name to I love
Jimmy Kimmel a lot. It's it'll be a
great show.
>> And then and then take his job.
>> Anyway,
>> our conversations in a different light
when presenting them to her own
respective audiences. This led to a good
number of people speaking down to me,
harassing me, and sending me death
threats largely based on the assumption
that I was a bitter, jealous, stupid
woman targeting an innocent, successful,
intelligent man for the sin of not
dating me. To which I'd like to respond
by saying, "Stephen, I'm just not that
into you." The same [\h__\h]
>> Jesus Christ. [\h__\h]
>> you don't get you don't you don't get to
make that joke,
>> [\h__\h]
>> Dude,
>> never once was he interested in you.
>> You are making a video where you have to
address allegations you presented on
your channel that after further
investigation that you didn't bother to
[\h__\h] do, turned out to be
unsubstantiated or even borderline just
totally made up. And you have to sit
here. It took you [\h__\h] 4 months to
sit here, address how big of a [\h__\h]
this was for your reputation, for
everything you did, and your final
takeaway was, "Sorry, Stephen. I don't
really want to [\h__\h] you." What in the
[\h__\h] is wrong with you? That
>> fiance.
>> Yeah. What the [\h__\h] is
>> It's It's How do you walk away from
this? How the [\h__\h] do you walk away from
making unstantiated rape allegations?
And I don't blame KP for believing a
victim. I did too, unfortunately. But
how do you walk away? It's like if I
made my video and my conclusion to Saber
Spark, instead of saying, "Saber Spark,
listen, I'm really really sorry," was
Saber Spark,
I know you think I'm hot, but like I
just think you're [\h__\h] ugly. Like,
>> so Jesus Christ,
>> this is
>> not that I actually think that. Like,
but you get what I'm saying? This is
like how do you You have to address it.
You You Oh my god. This whole thing
could have ruined his life. He was so
stressed out. He's put so much money to
prove his innocence, even though the
burden of proof is on you. He put in the
[\h__\h] back work to do essentially what
you should have done. And your only
takeaway is, "Sorry, Stephen. I just
don't want to [\h__\h] you." Like, what?
>> I mean, it's it's so shitty.
>> That's the only apology she has. That's
the only apology she has in this is,
"Stephen, I'm sorry that I don't want to
have sex with you." What? I mean, I
might I might be too ace for this, but
it's like I can't imagine going through
life just thinking that everyone has the
hots for me, you know?
>> Well, if you're egocentric maniac,
>> I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised
because like how else do you get people
to edit for you for free? Like, it's a
full-time job.
>> Well, I mean, like they're a fan of your
detail. That's important to keep in
mind. Uh KP thinks every single person
she's ever gotten into an argument with
wants to have sex with her.
>> That is so [\h__\h]
>> I'm not I'm not even kidding.
>> What the [\h__\h] All of them.
>> Does she think that you want to have sex
with her? Is that what we're [\h__\h]
doing? Wait. She actually she one time
implied it. Yeah. And she implied it
about Lily and she implied it about like
various other people in the Bruin
community.
>> I'm crashing out.
>> She just always does.
>> I'm crashing out. I'm crashing out. I'm
so angry. Well, hey, we we know that we
know that the one person who doesn't
want to have sex with KP at the very
least is Starter Ant Productions.
>> So true.
>> Anyway,
>> there we go. There we go.
>> Did you Did you Wait. Ant and Creepy
won't happen.
>> Wait, what?
>> Huh?
>> I'm sorry. What?
>> Did you hear a second?
>> Sorry. Did you guys hear what Star
Productions wrote um about KP?
>> Uh I saw a 20 something. You were there
for my stream involved. I was there for
that. I know a specific part of it that
you were talking about. It was a long
video.
>> Jack Dark Enigma 92 or Dark 92 Enigma
with a thousand CLP.
>> Uh Jack Sparrow, keep telling yourself
that, darling. Oh my god. Anyway,
>> fresh over Emily's accusations and
intentions with even less people
speaking to Emily herself. More can be
learned about her experiences in the
video linked below. Steven, however, was
given grace, room to respond, and direct
personal support from the same people
claiming to be an objective voice of
reason throughout the situation. When
given his own testimony on the
accusations leveled against him, his own
lapses of memory are not painted as
proof of malicious lie. His own
incorrect recollection of events, as
proved by the screenshots he himself
provided, are not painted as proof of a
malicious lie.
>> I mean, you say you pulled away from her
for the next few months, but I mean, cuz
I cuz I've seen your DMs with her.
>> Is the audio glitching on all?
>> Yeah, I was having that same issue, too.
Yeah.
>> Wait, what? The audio is getting a
little spunk like sputtery on
>> on
the audio is going through an analog
filter on our end. Like
>> guys, I I I think Beckett's too British.
I think the British accent's getting
misinterpreted by our American. Damn
you, Becket.
>> Come on, Becket.
>> Okay.
>> [\h__\h]
right son of a British.
>> Yeah, the rightwing ACC.
God damn it. Anyway, okay. Is it is it
just on Discord? Is it or is it on
stream?
>> Guys, I heard I I I I heard he's so
rightwing he he shot Martin Luther King.
>> I can't shut up.
>> You son of a
>> What,
>> dude?
>> Yeah, that that's what I heard. I just
heard that Becket's the most evil person
in the world.
>> I heard that.
>> Listen, I one time heard Becket stole 40
cakes. That's 40 cents.
>> Do you guys see how scary Becket's
avatar is there? Like, he's mad.
Therefore, evil person. Therefore,
right-wing, therefore the enemy.
>> Can you think of a more intimidating
image than that?
>> Also, I hate this. I hate I hate this
because it's like,
what do you mean he was given more
grace? He was given more grace because
he went out of his way to literally pull
hundreds of dollars worth of old
equipment to find the evidence. Oh no.
Lazy. Lazy.
>> Lazy. If you can believe it,
>> she's about to say something so purely
stupid, so dumb that it will actually
cause your brain to stop functioning.
>> I need to see this. I need to see this.
Let's continue.
>> You got to play it.
>> Just Just raw dog. We won't talk.
>> Okay.
>> In fact, let's let's mute ourselves to
make sure we don't interrupt this
because this is um
>> Nathaniel. Nathaniel Fogle with the five
is someone who met KP on a few occasions
at cons and thought she was nice. It
hurts to see how petty and pathetic she
actually is. Thank you for the five.
>> Cyber.
>> Not months. I would say I'd say
November. No, I'm sorry. You're right.
I'm I'm getting my uh the increments
wrong, but it was I would say for the
rest of November
>> before I I'm sorry. I don't mean to keep
pausing. This This is not like a bad
thing, by the way. Like he's Just cuz he
misremeers a date means that he's he has
to be lying here. His recollection of
events is not true, by the way, because
he misremembered a date in a time zone.
I'm like, "What the fuck?" Okay.
>> His own admission of trying to force a
woman to take a pregnancy test against
her will is not seen as a violation of
consent, privacy, and bodily autonomy,
but instead as a horrible event he was
made a victim of by the girl he had
targeted
>> into the convention on a Sunday. I
remember
>> I'm not actually I want to hear what he
has going over.
>> I'm like, we have to get this test.
Like, I I I need to know the answer
before I head home just so I can know
what's going on. I got the pregnancy
test, came back, and I'm like, please
can you take this? And she goes, okay.
You know, cuz it was times time's up.
and she she said, "Okay, I'll do it."
And she took it and it was negative. And
I remember after her after afterwards, I
was like almost dumbruck with relief. At
that point, I started forming this
opinion in my head where I'm like, "Did
she just baby scare me to keep me in her
life?" That was the emotion surging
through my head along with relief.
>> Admissions of being where he was accused
of being and when are not painless
plausibility that what he is accused of
is true. Instead is what? Wait.
>> So, so apparently uh KP is saying that
because Saber asked Emily to take a ba
to take a birth birth control birth test
um against her will apparently that
that's the same as basically assault.
>> Wait a minute.
>> By the way, there is no force here. He's
like asking her like, "Hey, can you
please do this for me?"
>> And that's being painted like like like
she he [\h__\h] tied her up and like
[\h__\h] took
>> I don't understand this narrative. And
this isn't just KP. Emily says something
similar. And the only reason, by the
way, that he needed this test done was
because she herself missed her period
and had to tell him, "Hey, my period's
late." And so now he's just like, "Oh my
god, did that one event where we had sex
actually result in any child because of
that cuz she's just like my
>> I think any responsible father would
want to know if
>> as a person whose spouse is currently 9
months pregnant, I can confirm there's
nothing that Saber did in this instance.
If all things are as they are said to
be, which I have no reason to believe
otherwise, was wrong. Ask for a
pregnancy test and that's it. You can't
also have someone take a pregnancy test.
You you pee on a stick. It's peeing on a
stick. It's not anything else.
>> Dude, I'm so This is so insane cuz it's
like
>> I Why would you take two seconds, right?
>> It takes like an hour, I think. I don't
remember. It takes a while.
>> It It does not take a while. It takes
>> the results do.
>> It takes
>> depends. There's some fast acting ones.
If you get the right one, all you got to
do is pee on it and let it sit. Like you
pee for two seconds, put it down, come
back an hour later. Oh, it's at most. At
most,
>> right? And as somebody who's already
like a like somebody who's a single
mother, like has already had a kid
before, h having a sexual inter
encounter and then hearing from this
person you had a sexual encounter with
and not one night saying, "Hey, my
period's late. you I don't think the con
his conclusion is the conclusion that
Saber comes to like we need to take this
pregnancy test due to all those factors
is not an unreasonable one and it's not
also like
>> dude the burden of proof to prove that
this was a situation where she was raped
and this was done against her will is
kind of on her and he has the [\h__\h]
text message proof that it was just like
oh you know you were so good in bed I
had a great
The whole discrepancy
with like the thing that does it for me
that makes it very hard to believe Emily
is the discrepancy of when Emily didn't
think that anyone would be able to find
the text messages and was like yeah I
immediately cut him off and it's like no
you kept talking to him for several
months and then
>> pestered him repeatedly when he tried to
remove you from Twitter
>> and then you continuously got mad at him
and started asking for like sexual [\h__\h]
>> right and also there was
>> there was the factor of Like when she
broke it off with Soul Rock for like the
first time cuz they were on again off
again. The first person she went to to
talk about her relationship ending was
Saber. Why the [\h__\h] would you go to
somebody who raped you about
relationship advice when you broke up
with your boyfriend?
>> What the [\h__\h] Yeah. What
>> years after the fact? And not only that,
but like le there's something about even
ignoring the discrepancy between Emily's
story and the text message, which I
think are damning to Emily's case,
>> right?
>> Let's be honest here. How the [\h__\h] does
anyone force someone to take a pregnancy
test? I'm still hung up on that days
later.
>> Hey, hey, can you sit in this chair? Sit
in this chair, please. Please sit in
this chair right now. Sit in the chair.
Thank you. Thank you. I got the thing. I
got the thing. You Yes. I need you to
pee on the thing. Can you peel the leg,
please? Uh, can can I stand up first
before being on the floor?
>> Sure. Sure. Sure. Understandable
privilege. Yes. Yes. Yes. Of course.
>> Okay. Yeah. Right here.
>> Yes. There. Right there.
>> I'm in my living room. Can you take to
the bathroom, please?
>> No. Go right there. I'm sorry. Your
bathroom's not going to work.
>> Wait. Hang on. We'll [\h__\h] catch it in
case I miss.
>> Doesn't matter. The rug's good. Let me
go.
>> Nice rug. It really ties the room
together.
>> It's not a good rug. I got it from my
mom's basement. Oh, [\h__\h] your mom. I'll
tune in.
>> And scene.
>> Good. Excellent.
>> I just I I don't understand how anyone.
>> Anyways, I'm going to We have two
minutes. We got to get through this. We
got 20 minutes. Let's go, chat.
>> As proof that he's telling the truth and
the accused victim is lying for clout
for objective coverage of what was
supposed to be a serious situation,
there seems to be a lot of sweeping for
Steven. Standards that myself and Emily
were and continue to be held to are not
standards that he needs to meet. moving
forward. Yes, even also
>> to the accusation wasn't that she lied
about using the language.
>> I don't know.
>> Why would Why would she just use
language that people understand? Most
people know Saber Spark as Saber Spark.
Most people don't know Steven as Steven.
It's stuff like this that makes me pull
my hair out. Man,
>> when she says Steven, she's talking
about Steven Universe because Steven
Universe is an all story.
>> Wait
99. Thank you.
>> Yeah. No, not about Stephen King.
Stephen King,
>> he's been upset about that Long Walk
movie.
>> Yeah, I was a real uh upset by the
adaptation of uh The Stand from a while
back. You know,
>> Kawaii Girl with Stand by Me.
>> Watermelon. Yeah, exactly. I mean, the
stand, not Stand by Me.
>> All right. Kawaii Girl with the Kawaii
Girl 80 86. I can read with a two. Water
bend the results out of them. Bomber man
with a five. Uh, it usually involves a
bucket and a fee cup of lemonade.
Also, that is goal everybody. We did it
once again. Yeah.
>> The the one thing I got from this
response as like a [\h__\h] hole is the
whole fact that like I KP doesn't
understand why people are mad. KP
doesn't understand like what what they
did wrong.
and why they are continuously getting
this backlash. I don't think there's I
don't think there's there's a coming
back for KP. I mean, I think Jar has a
[\h__\h] better shot.
>> Also, question.
>> Do you think that KP actually
understands how a pregnancy test works?
>> Well, I mean, she's never had she's
never been in a relationship, but yeah,
everyone thinks everyone wants to [\h__\h]
her, so I don't know. Anyways,
>> yeah, I Who knows if she saw enough
movies?
>> Actually, I'm I'm still hung up on that
part. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm still
like I'm still going back there like But
does she actually I I'm babbling. I'm so
sorry. Don't worry.
>> It's a bubble standoff.
>> Which bubble is gonna Which bubble is
going to go first?
>> All I know is that I'm getting soaked,
chat.
>> I love seeing this in real time in in
delayed time.
>> It's very funny hearing you like laugh.
I'm not sure I'm supposed to maniacally
laugh as the bubbles come up. And then
>> it's a very delayed effect.
Unfortunately,
>> that's so funny. Anyway,
>> it is pretty great.
>> There we go.
>> Let's finish.
>> All right, let's do this thing.
>> All right, Artemis with the two. Not to
derail, but the Homestuck pilot sucked.
>> I don't I thought it was fine.
>> I think the Homestuck pilot will be very
appealing to people who like Homestuck
and know about it, but completely
alienating the people who aren't already
fans. Most of my home
>> I I could not follow what the [\h__\h] was
going on.
>> Most of my Homestuck exposure was from
the Sarah Zed videos about Homestuck.
>> Okay, no one cares. We're going to
continue
>> as the online community do better. What
changes can we make to improve child
safety or our fandom space? What kind of
conversations should we be having? How
about power dynamics and fandom spaces
and the people that abuse them? Creators
turning their fan base up their
neighbors passed off as normal internet
interactions. These were the kinds of
conversations I was intending to spark
with my last. This was my intent.
>> Okay, you know, KP,
let's get some spice out there. All
right, we're going to sit here and
criticize how other people act in
Phantom spaces. Meanwhile, last time I
was I don't know if this was Babscon or
if this was Bronycon. It could be one or
the other, but I distinctly remember KP
selling a body pillow of her character
in like a sexualized posing panties.
Like
>> I distinctly remember
>> like this human one. This human one.
>> No, no, no, no, no. Her pony.
>> Oh,
>> her pony. Yeah, the one the Moses the
Moses pony one that she Right.
>> That's that very Christian like K.
>> The blue horse there. There's she was
sitting next to the person who does the
Pony Finder like adaptation book for um
Pathfinder I guess. Um, and yeah, she
was selling like what I could only
described as a sexualized like body
pillow of her character and like doing
so on the open floor where there were
kids walking around. It was awkward. I
talked to Michelle Kreb's dad who seemed
to be very proud of her daughter while
I'm having to explain why I'm in a room
where KP's OC is like in a sexualized
pose right behind my head cuz I I was
helping another vendor in the same
space, you know, like I didn't I like I
said, I I went I went to that Bronycon
because, you know, I was a brony when I
was like a kid, so I wanted to see the
[\h__\h] thing die. It was either that or
Babscon because I know Josh was like a
guest there and I just broomed with him
to go to Seattle, right? Uh, but I mean
like
I've seen KP like do some pretty like
wacko [\h__\h] in fandom spaces where kids
were around. I mean like I I I don't
think I would want to start bringing up
this discussion if that was them.
>> Right. Also, thank you. Oh, sorry.
>> Thank you to Bomber Man for the two and
Ekko with the 199. Uh, Bomber says,
"Whoever said that, thank you." And then
E G E G E G E G E G E G E G E G E G E GO's just like K-pop.
>> But like, but the thing is like of all
the fandoms in in the history of recent
fandom,
bronies should not be saying what's
isn't isn't inappropriate for other
fandoms to do.
>> I've been to anime conventions with
adult characters put in scantly clad
clothing. They're more PC than some the
average brony convention.
>> Bomberman with the tune creepy. Did you
get one?
a body pillow?
>> [\h__\h] no.
>> You think I got enough money for a body
pillow? [\h__\h] no.
>> Well, I mean, I'll say this.
>> You think I'm gonna like I I There are
like tweets on her uh Twitter as of
today that still references how they're
upset that people are doing stuff to
Body Pillow.
>> Even post the mass deleting.
>> Yeah, cuz she mass deleted a bunch of
stuff from her Twitter. So,
>> I mean, it's possible that she mass
deleted it. I know. I sent it to Mr.
Enter.
>> That's funny. So, I got I got
screenshots of it [\h__\h] somewhere.
>> Oh, hell yeah.
>> I I may need to see that. I'm curious
now.
>> Okay. Okay. I'll go search for it. You
can play for the video.
>> And at the end of the video, I'd like to
close off with a note about
accountability. Throughout the whole
ordeal, I have seen a lot of people
attributing my lack of response to mean
a lack of accountability, that I was
avoiding the controversy, and that I was
trying to erase or ignore it. Something
I invite the audience to think about is
what accountability is, what it looks
like, and what it isn't. Someone jumping
to respond as soon as possible or
through as many avenues as possible is
not indicative of taking accountability,
especially if that response is to
victimize slashmurder yourself in the
face of accusations and criticism. True
accountability is stating whether or not
you did something on its face regardless
of any intentions or effect and without
excusing yourself or attacking the
accuser. Ex.
>> Okay, but you're not
>> I don't I don't understand. How is this
taking accountability?
>> How is this taking accountability? Cuz
you didn't even address what you did
wrong. What you did wrong wasn't the
tone of your video or mentioning Lily
Orion in the end or whatever the [\h__\h]
What you did wrong mentioned that. She
didn't mention that.
>> What you did wrong was start a crusade
against a guy based on something that
you've heard from one person who
couldn't substantiate any of it. That's
what you did wrong.
>> AP doesn't know any like like she didn't
she she was in a position of
investigating and making sure that this
stuff came out right and they just
didn't. And that's like like she didn't
do her job.
>> Yeah, you didn't do your [\h__\h] job.
>> Anyway,
>> well, but don't you realize that he she
took accountability when she said she
was sorry for the tone of her jokes?
That's what that's what accountability
means. That's it.
>> Thanks. I'm so glad that you apologized
for the tone. I made the original should
be more apologetic.
>> I found I found the screenshot.
>> Oh, glorious. Sorry.
>> All right. Anyway, example. I made the
original video. It was bad and I
understand that. jumping to dismiss
someone as cloud chasing and trying to
justify why what happened isn't the word
they are using is not accountability.
It's obuscation and defense and you
didn't need to defend something that
didn't happen. Anyway, this was heavy.
>> I'd like to thank everyone who stuck it
out this far as well as a special thanks
to my fans who allowed me to respond
before forming the video.
>> In the meantime, I've tried to be
positive and I'm working on something
that is not YouTube adjacent. And maybe
I can share it with you someday. Maybe
not. We'll see. Anyway, this is my dog
Toby.
>> Oh, go [\h__\h] yourself, [\h__\h] Go [\h__\h]
yourself.
>> I want to point out how high quality the
image of the dog is versus her JPEG.
>> You do not What was that one apology
where the guy started off by being like
with his dog and he's like, I don't
know, Boomer. How am I supposed to or
whatever the [\h__\h]
>> That would be that that would be the uh
the Counterstrike guy with the gambling.
>> Yes. You don't Everyone knows
Pete Martin.
>> I don't remember. It was somebody who
did like gambling in CSGO. It was a CSGO
related controversy. I'm almost
positive. And he starts off with the dog
being like, "Oh my god, my dog. I don't
know how I'm supposed to do this apology
video. You just from that instant alone
infamously, you never include your pets
in this. What the fuck?"
>> Okay.
>> Oh my god.
>> Totally totally different. So my spouse
doesn't keep keep track of any of this
online trauma. And she walked in the
room as I was watching the video the
original first time and she saw the dog
and she was just like, "Oh, it's a cute
dog." And then that was the end of it.
And then she walked out and that was the
only takeaway she had. But the dog was
cute.
>> Be sure that I was cute.
>> The dog is very cute.
>> I do have in the chat uh two of the
screenshots I took of KP's Twitter
referencing the body pillow in question.
>> Uh what I have said is not just [\h__\h]
coming out of my mouth. I'm like, she
admits that she made a body pillow,
people bought it, and that people are
doing stuff with sexual with said body
pillow. Let me
>> like it's there's there's no [\h__\h] way
that like you're gonna lecture me about
what's an appropriate relationship to
have with your fans when you're
literally like sexualizing yourself
>> at a convention attended by children.
>> Let's see.
>> Oh yeah.
>> I thought it might be fun to uh some
roast inspired with the almighty at
Wendy's. Respond with request or I'll
roast you. Okay. This is a roast thing
and then someone post something.
Remember the Wendy is like the
restaurant.
>> No, I don't know what this is. You
>> misspelled that.
>> I don't know.
>> Oh, this was um Oh, this was back in
2019. The Wendy's thing was old by then,
though. Dude, that was
>> No, but I mean like that's just proof
that KP has continually never
matured past because I used to think,
oh, maybe she like hit her peak and then
never moved past that, but like no,
she's just always been stuck in like ex
like slow on the uptake in general.
>> But basically, she's like, this is like,
>> reply to me, I'll roast you. Somebody
post something, but it's suspended
account. And her reply is, you own a KP
body pillow. Enough said. You made a KP
body pillow and not
>> You own You own a KP body pillow.
>> No, but she made a KP body pillow.
>> Oh, yeah. She did make it. True.
>> And she was selling it at a convention
that was for all ages on the main floor
where I had an awkward cons conversation
with Michelle Kreb's dad.
>> I didn't know you actually. I didn't
know that. That's crazy. But it was it
was it was the most awkward thing ever.
And I basically was like, "Bro, bro, I'm
I'm I just
>> I swear I'm normal."
I had
>> If I was like, "Listen, I'm not with
these freaks."
>> Literally,
>> if I knew about MLP, I'd be more shocked
by that information, but
I never even watched the show.
>> Same. No, I I'm very lucky I avoided
that fandom.
>> Right. It was honestly like back when I
was a kid, it was less of a show and
more of like you know just the
brotherhood aspect of it. Like I know
that sounds culty but like you know the
people in the fandom were very
>> culty. Full pony brotherhood full pony
brotherhood alchemist or
>> middle brony alchemist.
>> Yeah, dude. You you had like people in
their 20s like singing the My Little
Pony song while going into Pizza Hut.
Like holy [\h__\h] Like it was it was like
kind of cool in the sense that it's just
like it was a lot of people that were
like preaching being nice to each other
and being kind and to a lot of socially
awkward idiots, you know? I mean like
you get a you get a mildly entertaining
show. You get a bunch of cool people to
hang out in there and then all of a
sudden, you know, it's bronies started
like kind of as a meme and then that
turned into a community and now it's
like a dead community. But yeah, the
point being is that like yeah, it was
never about the show. It was it was
about like the homies, the the music,
the fandom, the nerdcore, the you know
that kind of aspect of it and like
that's where Living Tombstone got his
start,
>> right?
>> But but it's funny like you know obvious
I'm obviously a fan of like different
fandoms and not all of them are for like
adult men. Like I love Sailor Moon for
example. I really adore Sailor Moon as a
series,
>> but I feel like the Sailor Moon I know,
right? I know, right? It's all good.
It's all good. But like you look at that
fandom and you see like it's still going
like decades later and you're seeing
creative works inspired by Sailor Moon.
You're seeing mainstream like well not
mainstream but indie animated projects
that are heavily inspired by Sailor Moon
and Magical Girls in general.
>> 100%. Yeah. Sailor Moon has inspired a
lot.
>> Yeah. And it's it's it's interesting
seeing that how it's inspired the works.
I don't know what My Little Ponies
inspired, you know, like I know that
people who worked on it have worked on
other projects, but I don't
>> I don't see that same throughine like,
oh, Steven Universe. Oh, yes, Steven
Universe inspired this.
>> It inspired Hasbro to be very careful
about
>> their future animated properties.
>> Yeah. So, it's limited future
productions is what you're saying.
>> Yeah. Yeah. It inspired regulation.
>> Yeah. Inspired less. It's less
>> I would say I I feel like like Okay.
I was not a brony or anywhere near that
space, but I feel like the like
throughine of MLP's influence like it
was one of the like major cartoons of
the 2010s that definitely defined a lot
of the style as far as things go. Like
there's not been anything directly of
it, but it's like it's definitely paved
the way for like taking more kidish toy
lines and building like more stories out
of them that kind of Well, this show
wasn't intended to break into
everything, but it's like it definit it
it definitely feels like it changed some
things, you know?
>> Mhm.
>> Yeah. Like one, which got so many
sequels.
>> Bring the conversation back a little bit
though. The reason why we even bring up
the brony fandom and like in relation to
KP is that we have screenshots here of
KP saying you haven't made it until you
have a body pillow of you as one of the
as a horse and then somebody puts a
[\h__\h] dildo on it. Rip my humanity.
It's like you're the one who seld [\h__\h]
of you as a horse and you and and you
did so in public spaces, right? like
you're going to sit here and lecture
other people about what kind of
relationship is appropriate to have with
your fan base, what is appropriate to do
with kids in the room, you know, and I'd
argue selling sexualized merch of your
horse character at a familyfriendly
convention would fall into that
category. You know, it's hypocrisy at
its most like what you do.
>> And you know what's funny too with with
this on the same note? Uh when we were
still talking, KP tried giving me advice
on how to network at conventions and
said, "Trust me, I've been at
conventions for years. I know exactly
what to do at convention spaces and
fandom spaces." And hearing it was
basically selling body pillows and
appearing in con appearing in panels on
occasion kind of tells me everything I
needed to learn from her was I need to
sell myself on body pillows. I gotta get
that. I gotta get on that. I gota get on
that market.
>> Wait a minute. Are are you telling me
that she privately admitted to selling
body pillows to you?
>> She didn't say that, but she said that
she could give me advice on what to do
at conventions to promote my brand
because she was trying to like she was
trying to leverage my success to boost
her own essentially. And I don't think
successful at the time when she was
saying this. So funny.
>> I I I don't even think you're successful
in that.
>> I know. How do I It's great.
>> Well, so I I think the crazy thing is
the honest way you can make connections
at cons and stuff is you just go and
talk to people and have the and have the
kind of courage to do it. You know, I I
wind up making I I the thing for me,
right, as far as networking goes is I
use things as I collect stories that I
can tell that make me an interesting
person to come up to your booth and talk
to immediately. Um, and that's how I
that's how I was able to connect with
some people. Also, two minutes left,
>> right? That's why I'm trying to end
this, but nobody knows how to
>> There is not a lot of people at this
point.
>> Anyways, what have we learned today,
chat? Um,
>> nothing.
>> Nothing.
>> Nothing. Anyways,
>> absolutely [\h__\h] nothing.
>> We have learned nothing. Thank you guys
so much for being here. I want to thank
Anthony that creepy reading and videos
for popping by and also talking talking.
so much that I forgot what this video is
even about.
>> Support them all on YouTube. Kawaii girl
with the two here, man. An offer you
can't refuse. Bonnie Pillow. So true.
>> That's
>> I wouldn't even have brought any of that
up if KP didn't bring up the [\h__\h] about
being appropriate in in fan spaces.
Like,
>> so funny. So funny.
>> This this is like real [\h__\h] And it's
like I was there for it. And I always
blamed the con more than I blamed KP.
like why the [\h__\h] are you letting this
happen? But
>> right
>> and and and KP is a guest so it's like
even worse cuz it's like
>> you get extra privileges, you know, like
>> is this stream still going or are we
off?
>> I think it's I think I think we might be
off.
>> I think we're done.
>> Thank you so much for being here. I
>> We have learned nothing. I have learned
nothing. This was a waste of my [\h__\h]
time. Good night everybody.
>> It was funny. It was funny, but it was a
waste of our time.