Hello everybody. How are we doing this
evening? This is quite a late stream for
me. I am a little bit sick. I'm a little
bit tired. So, what an amazing time to
stream.
Right. Right. That's that's when
everyone streams, right? Absolutely
amazing idea on my end. We have a few
donations. How is everybody doing? Uh,
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stream. Uh, thank you very much,
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Yen. Perpet
perpetually. Are you happy now?
Perpetually.
But yeah. So, if you can tell, the
stream setup is a little bit different
because I managed to scurry through my
assorted bag of cables that I haven't
looked in since I changed where I lived.
And
I managed to find a HDMI cable. So,
we now have my second monitor set up. I
know it's amazing. We've moved up in the
world. Thank you very much the ever
searcher for the five Canadian dollars.
Heck, have an early Canadian
Thanksgiving present. Yen, thank you for
content. Help me pass work. Well, thank
you very much. Thank you very much.
Canadian Thanksgiving present. Oh, what
do you guys have? Like a different time.
It's It's Halloween. How early is
Thanksg When's Thanksgiving?
I don't even know anymore.
did. But yeah, as you can see, we now
have chat on the screen. Very cool.
Very, very cool. So, I have a quick
TLDDR, a quick message for a certain
brony YouTuber.
As you can probably tell by the
description of the stream, I'm going to
read this out just for you, KP.
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I did just steal this disclaimer from
Hidden's video. Where where where. So,
if you're seeing this KP,
[\h__\h] off.
And as you're probably a lot of you in
the chat um have been keeping aware with
the stuff to do with KP, they've been
striking other people's videos and
streams. Um, from my understanding, they
have done it to Hidden uh Heroine, you
know, the girly pop that she is. Um, I
believe they have done it to Becket and
I think Fouchy as well, which is very
interesting considering it's, you know,
streaming. So,
you know,
quite fair use, I would say. Oh, also
including trying to strike down an
archive of her video that what got that
caused all of this Saber Spark mess in
the first place. So
amazing. Becket twice. That is very
true. I believe he got him appealed. Um,
if my memory serves, which is very good,
very awesome. Where is the KP cosplay? I
didn't think about that, Metalman. Um, I
didn't think about that. If anyone wants
to make me a KP cosplay,
feel free. Um, as you can see by the pin
comment, we have a community Discord
server. And yeah. Uh, oh, Internet
Adjacent also got hit. Yeah, that
doesn't surprise me. Uh, very
interesting considering how it seemed
that internet Jason was mainly um
talking with Courtney Pete of all
people. So, very very interesting, very
interesting stuff on who's deciding to
get hit. Um,
but yeah, we've got a few things lined
up. I'm a little bit late to the topic
because I have been bit busy. I've been
more focusing on videos at the moment.
Um, I do have a few things lined up. Um,
the next video should be quite
interesting, I think. Um, considering
every single person that had a video on
this person has got their videos taken
down because they got cancelled.
So, yes, it is ACC related, but I guess
you really didn't mean me to say that
consider considering I said that
everyone got cancelled. Cow bummer
indeed, liar. Cow bummer indeed. Um, but
yeah, I've missed out on a few things
when it comes to KP and Courtney Pete.
Uh, I think we'll probably get this one
out of the way. I was going to go over a
few Courtney Pete tweets, but
unfortunately,
as we can see,
they have privated she has privated her
Twitter.
Oh god.
Uh, what do you expect?
Um
uh
why have they done this? Well, most
likely due to people clowning on them on
Twitter and rightfully so for saying
some absolutely inh unhinged [\h__\h] when
it came to uh Becca and other people
talking about the Saber stuff stuff. Um
Courtney is just absolutely deranged,
right? Um,
they're their own little rabbit hole.
Uh, and I don't think I particularly
have the energy for it. This stream in
particular, I mean, we have three videos
lined up. We may maybe on a rainy day.
Who knows? I may cover I may look at
some Courtney Pete stuff. Um,
but when it comes to Courtney, just
trying to think.
Yep. They basically called every single
person who was uh more lean towards the
Saber Spark Saber Sparks defense when it
came to the topic as um rape apologists
and and specifically when it came to Mr.
Enter basically implying that um well
basically outright stating that they
hoped that Mr. Enter got raped over a
comment he no longer stands by anymore.
Absolute [\h__\h] lunacy. Okay, absolute
lunacy.
Sorry, just got my monster. But I think
I've waffled on for too long. So, I
think without further ado, I kind of
tried to grab these in a tight timeline
order. So, I believe we should be
starting with this video by uh you know,
good old Becket of Crabs, our favorite
favorite transfam in the community. Um,
Becky of crabs, you know.
Oh god. Oh, thank you very much,
Metalman, for one month of being a
member. Remember when we felt bad for
Courtney? Crazy times.
Um, Courtney was always a person that,
okay, how do I word this?
they were always a person that was
difficult to interact with, per se. It's
just that not many people did too much
digging into them, if that makes sense.
Um, I know that even when people were
chill with them when it came to them
being in the Cats server, you know,
Lio's server, um, a lot of people were
quite annoyed with them. I mean, you had
people like Becket, you had people like,
um, not Becket, sorry. You had Chris the
Knark, you know, poking at them in Cat
Slayer and stuff like that. And that was
only really the beginning when it came
to them. And now people have started
digging further when it came to like the
Fenick messages and everything to do
with that. It just gets worse. It just
gets so much worse. Um,
God. But if I say the same thing back to
her, I'm the bad guy. So true, Ivy. So
so true.
Um, but yeah, I keep waffling, but I
think we'll get started. Let's see.
We'll get those close captions on. What
speed have I got? And I think we're
going to get started with this. Uh, and
again, if the audio has any issues, let
me know and I shall adjust things in the
settings. Anyway, let's get into it. In
my last video on I Love Kim Possibles
recent response titled Let's Talk, I
highlighted the fact that this probably
wasn't what she intended in a response
video. I also noted that at least some
details from those early drafts had
leaked because they were highlighted by
people like Tuni on Twitter. Now, at
time of recording, I
What the hell?
See, I don't even know who joined. I
haven't even got the thing set up. Well,
I guess I'll find out in a minute.
>> Being unable to gain a copy of one of
the original audio drafts. However, what
I have been handed is nearly as good. A
copy of the original draft script for
the video. I took a shot in the dark and
checked in with a few people who I
thought may have heard one of these
original drafts. Have I seen the new
Vincent Martin video yet? I think I've
seen some. I've seen parts. Um, I
believe I watched part of Fouchi's
stream going over it. I That may be
something that I look at actually if I
have enough time and my voice isn't
killing me like last time after that
out of the Star Giant stream. But also,
thank you very much. Oh gosh, why is
your name cut off? No.
Oh god, I'm not going to butcher this.
Where is your full name in the chat?
I'll find it.
God damn it.
Thank you very much. The ever search
something here for some syrup and to go
on the waffling.
Uh thank you very much for the two
Canadian dollars. I really appreciate
that. Thank you very much.
Okay,
but yeah, we we'll have to see. Don't do
it yet. It makes no sense. It's okay.
I speak I speak Vincent Martin language.
Okay, we might be able to decipher it.
But also, I have noticed that we have 69
69 people watching and only three likes.
So, like up, buddy. Like the stream. But
anyway, we're only God, we're only 39
seconds in. And they did at least
confirm that this version of the video
is accurate, though not complete. It
seems there may have been an even longer
version of this video, though. God knows
what was in that. Regardless, I do think
it is worth talking about this original
draft version because it is very
different from what was actually
released and presumably KP have been
working on this version for a
significantly longer period of time.
That being said, rather than just
releasing it onto Twitter or reading it
on live, I decided that you deserve a
full feeling of what this video could
have actually been. With that in mind,
I've decided to do a full
reconstruction. So, okay, sit down, grab
a drink, and let's talk.
This video discusses sensitive topics,
including grooming, power dynamics, and
online harassment. Viewer discretion is
advised. 18 plus content warning. Do not
harass anyone discussed in this video.
Hi everyone, this is KP. I just wanted
to take this off. There she is, our
favorite egg, Becky in the flesh.
God damn it. To clear the air a little
bit because I took some time away from a
really messy situation and now I'm
coming back to it. For those who don't
know, in early May, I released a video
commenting on some behavior regarding
fellow YouTubers Save Spark and DA
Games. And it wasn't really wellreceived
for a number of reasons. And first off,
I just want to apologize for the tone
that came with it. What I didn't realize
is by talking about such serious topics
and using jokes and memes, it would come
off as insulting and immature. But for
me personally, that's how I process
trauma is I do a lot of dark jokes to
cope with my own personal trauma. Like
my line about John Stewart.
>> So the John Stewart example was Jewish
humor as coping because I'm Jewish. So
that's not a flex. So, I didn't realize
that it wasn't an internalized
viewpoint. And I just want to say that
obviously any type of trauma is horrible
and bad. And I'm so sorry you had to
deal with anything and everyone copes in
their own way. So,
but
okay. Oh, so I was originally going to
say something along the lines of um what
has that got to do with KP in terms of
trauma? So why why the hell's like what
what right do they have to make those
kind of jokes in a video when it comes
to something that's not their trauma? Um
but again KP is under the understanding
that the um the joke with the whole
laundry and the clothes thing is real
for some reason. Uh again I'm not going
to like sit here and pretend that like
oh no you can't like be affected by a
joke right? I think that would be quite
insane to sit here and say something
like that. Uh it can obviously still
affect KP and I think that's an totally
justified thing to feel, you know,
disgusted by and felt like that's like a
quite a horrible rumor to be spread
about you or something that would
happen. But again, also it didn't
happen. It didn't happen. But we'll get
into that when we get into that part.
Please look up some healthy coping
techniques or find a professional
therapist or do whatever you need to do
to process it in whichever way you want.
So once I realized that tone was a
problem, I took the video down within 3
or 4 hours of upload and we were going
to decide what to do next.
>> You have a tone
>> and a lot of people were criticizing my
interactions on Twitter leading up to
the video coming out. But a lot of it
was personal katharsis for me because
this was such a hard project and we were
working on it for such a hard time and
it was hard for me personally. It was
like it was sad hearing about all of
these stories like regardless and that
was interpreted as ego. And just for
full disclosure, I was dealing with a
PTSD episode in response to everything
that happened with the failure of this
video. So people
>> what
a PTS
unless they're referring to their
original 2016 drama. I guess that could
be it, right? Um but I guess there's not
really too much to go off of in regards
to that. Um, and if people are somehow
confused in what they mean by like their
tweets leading up to the video's
release, they're referring to how they
were basically hyping it up like it was
some sort of like next movie coming out
soon type [\h__\h] you know, very
egotistically.
Um,
I don't know. I don't know. It's just
bizarre, dude. Assumed my silence was
completion or guilt. And it makes me
feel really weird because it makes me
who was saying that? Who
did I I swear like we've gone past this
point, right, where people have taken
time to make a response when it comes to
stuff. Um to actually like, you know, be
able to construct a response that would
be good um when it comes to a situation.
I I can't I can't think of anyone who's
really done like said anything in
regards to that in terms of a creator.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe people have said
that. Fair enough. But again, it feels a
kind of a weird point. Me feel like I'm
not even allowed to have my own space to
process decisions that I make at my own
speed. Like, if I don't react
immediately, then suddenly I'm guilty of
everything everyone can think of.
>> No one says that.
>> So, just for the record, I hate creators
with ego. I know I joke a lot about
myself, but I really don't think you
should be making art or anything really
with ego attached. art especially
because I feel like that's kind of a
sacred thing to do.
>> But with ego, you make it about power
dynamics and who has the most
subscribers or who has the most views
and it's just exhausting. And
>> you made a video defending someone who
had a much larger subscriber base than
you. What are you talking about pile
dynamics in that instance?
What?
Huh?
What? I I don't understand what's the
power dynamic here. What sub count? Like
I I don't understand. Like Emu Emmy is
like at a massive sub count from my
understanding. I I don't understand.
That's one of the reasons I've been
doing YouTube the way I've been doing it
for as long as I have because I love art
and animation and I like talking about
it in a way that I can express and have
fun with. It's just part of who I am and
what I like to do and what like my deep
part. Thank you very much, Plat Platinum
Amex, for the uh5 US.
Like, look, you can make a joke to cope
about your trauma, but not a meme-filled
mess to cope with a possible rape
allegation on whatever the DAG stuff is.
True. Thank you very much for the five
uh US dollars, platinum.
Yeah. No, that makes sense. Um
I don't know. It just it it's such a
mess, right? Could you imagine if I did
a video talking about like doodle tones
and I throw in like a uh diaper stock
footage every 5 seconds?
Like what the [\h__\h] Artistic soul. So I
would probably just be doing it anyway
in my head. The real question no one
really asked is okay. But what was she
trying to say? If you've never heard my
side before, I'm here to make sure
there's even a second sight to hear. And
I invite you to sit with the patterns of
these issues, not the personalities.
So the core of the main video originally
was to criticize DA Games Will Ryan and
the rest of his team for not only how
they run their Discord server, but how
they handle their interactions with
their fans, specifically children. There
is documented proof of problematic
behavior, including using slurs,
accounts of parasocial behavior, and the
worst one, accidentally sharing
inappropriate images in the server that
children have access to. And instead of
addressing it and apologizing and giving
a plan for how they'll never do it
again, they just erase the evidence. And
if a creator has access to children and
behaves recklessly,
>> back it
I know exactly why he's doing this.
[\h__\h] up, dude. [\h__\h] Courtney Pete
when talking about children having
access to like specific content. Yeah,
you ain't slick, buddy. I know. I know
what you are.
That deserves scrutiny. Period. Fame
just isn't a shield. So, let's get this
straight. The core of the video was not
only my interactions with DA Games, but
how they handle issues of grooming and
specifically issues with children. We're
talking about someone with influence,
access, and no real oversight. This
isn't cancel culture. We're not trying
to cancel anyone. This is community
protection. It should have been
everyone's concern, frankly. And yet the
second I brought it up, the focus became
my tone, not the risk. Let's be clear,
the in
No, the focus became you making false
rape accusations. KP, what are you on
about? Like, here's the thing you got to
understand, right? You can have a video
where you have proper um reasoning for
going after someone or like bringing up
a point um
of someone doing wrongdoing, right? But
the second you make something like or do
something that like once actually
getting looked into kind of falls flat
on its ass in that same video or
discussion. It makes everyone focus up
on that slip up or that um malicious
sometimes malicious sometimes not
malicious act, right?
Um
like a hundred times more than any sort
of like evidence that you actually have,
right? Um and that's exactly what
happened here. The when it comes to the
DA game stuff, that stuff is entirely
criticizable.
Absolutely. I think that what KP had
brought to like attent to people's
attention in that regard that is totally
fair to bring up. Okay. But when you
pull up on the focus on something that
when you actually look into it seems to
be more interpersonal and
um having what what do you want to how
do I even word it?
um
you know, personal stakes in and
personal like you know, you've already
had disagreements with this person in
the past and then everything else that
came out with the Saber Spark stuff. Um
it's not it's not good, buddy. I don't
know. I'm stumbling over my words here
trying to explain this, but I think I
think you get my point. God damn it.
Internet will always turn everything
into content, but some things aren't
content. their warnings. I didn't come
forward because I wanted attention. I
came forward because kids were involved.
And if the biggest takeaway from that is
still, she seems mad, then we need to
take a hard look at what kind of fandom
culture we're building. What I liked or
didn't like doesn't change whether a
grown man acted recklessly around
miners. So, let's talk about the power
of the creator. If you're a creator with
a young fan base, you don't get to be
reckless.
>> Okay, buddy.
Okay, Becket.
Okay, buddy.
>> You don't get to play.
>> Oh god.
What we got here?
I'm more like the local street mom than
I think. They ain't my kids, but at
least they ain't dead kids either. type
of vi kind of vibe I vibe I go for.
Jesus Christ.
I mean, I can give you some really nasty
lines, but your mom is not going to be
happy about it. Dude, even that sentence
that Courtney said that to a child,
dude. Like, you must have realized that
that was a bad idea to like say that to
someone, right?
Like as soon as you have to verbally
say, "Um, yeah, your mom's not going to
like this." When talking to a child when
giving advice,
you know you've done something wrong.
Naive. This isn't a hobby. It's a
position of power. And when the powers
mishandled, then people can get hurt,
especially kids who don't know when
someone is crossing a line. The question
shouldn't have been, "Why did KP say it
like that?" It should have been what was
she trying to say? This wasn't about one
incident. It was a pattern, a
documented, longstanding one.
>> If the roles were reversed if a small
creator ignored this kind of behavior in
someone else, they'd be complicit. So
why is it controversial to speak up when
I did? The risk wasn't the careers. The
risk was the kids who trusted someone
they admired and maybe didn't have the
tools to know when that trust was being
broken. I shouldn't have been the first
person to say it. I mean, I wasn't, but
I'm glad I did. So, during this, I
recorded a story for my safety about
someone making an explicit story about
me. First off, I want to apologize. I
thought it was clear that I was
recording Chris, but I should have just
said it outright,
>> okay? But the recording was framed as
worse than the harm. Like worse than
making up a gross, illicit, a story
about another person,
>> making up a story. I want you to keep
that in mind. Okay? Making making up a
story that might affect their career
prospects. And don't tell them until the
story gets back to them. It makes it
seem gross. And if you're more upset
about how someone defended themselves
than why they had to, that's not
accountability.
Some people have pointed out that it was
unfair that I recorded Chris without his
explicit knowledge, which is fair. So,
I've taken down all the links of the
recording. I don't have access to the
raw file, but I've taken down where
people have access to it. So, in
hindsight, I should have just asked
Chris to do a public apology explaining
the situation because I was personally
afraid that that story would continue to
harm business friendships and
relationships because no one would ever
have the correct version. Would But this
was, Correct me if I'm wrong, right, but
wasn't this like 5 years ago? I'd be
surprised if this was still affecting
things now. Sure, it's fair to like
critique. Um, but like still I I don't
understand how this would still be
affecting business relationships even
now.
Again, like I like I have said when it
when it comes to that story, right? Um,
it's entirely fair for KP to call out
that that was a disgusting kind of like
thing to even make up. Um,
or you know, Chris Yeah. Did I say that
right? Yeah. For Chris to make up,
right?
Um, but I don't know. God, my head. Oh
god.
Would Chris have done that? I don't
know. I don't really know Chris, but
that was a little bit of my fear, to be
honest.
I'm just exhausted of people talking
about me without me having a way to
respond. And dear games, they loved me.
They sent me three legal requests,
including two they use dummy accounts to
send me.
>> Wait, what? Another dumbass uh DI Games
update. They sent me a totally for real
cease and desist over ever exaggerating
or straight up lying about current law.
Best part, they cited a lawyer. I called
that lawyer's office and they had no
idea what I was talking about.
Okay. the lol.
>> Pause to read if you want to. So, they
see more focus in silencing the people
that actually had criticism than
addressing and correcting the actual
criticism. Isn't that hypocritical, KP?
The way you be striking other people's
content down who were being critical of
you.
Very interesting how that works out. So,
now we get to Saber. My personal
connection with Saber Spark. Thank you
very much for the $5 glitchy bits. The
story, as gross as it was, was a jab
about how KP left her clothing
everywhere during the con. And yes, the
story is a decade old. Thank you very
much for the $5 US. I really appreciate
that. Yeah, you know, I thought that was
right. It's just
God.
But we'll get into it when we get to
that part. Jesus Christ
>> was uncomfortable. And I'll just leave
it at that. So going to Sabre was about
holding Chris accountable for his
behavior, for the story, the Nazi
images, but especially his behavior that
endangered children, and the unhealthy
DA Games behavior at large. And he
framed me as a jealous girl mad about
rejection. Shout out to Jenny Nicholson
for calling out how he implied a
narrative about open communication, but
the evidence doesn't support that. She's
the goat. And I don't want to be mean,
but I'm not crushing. Sit down, sir.
>> I'm open to our Skype blogs being made
public to prove what happened. I'm tired
of stories being shaped in private.
Sabre can contact me if he wants to do
that. We have already tried contacting
him and I have verification from a
mutual party that he's seen those emails
and chosen not to respond. I wonder why.
I wonder why Sabre wouldn't want to talk
to KP anymore given everything that's
happened.
Like
Oh yeah, I really I would really like to
talk to the person who false accused me
of raping somebody. Jesus Christ. Also,
thank you very much, Kai Rise, for the
two US dollars. Maybe they thought KP
was a crazy lady. I mean, yeah,
thank you. Thank you very much.
Shouting out Jenny Nicholson is one of
the biggest L's you could have you could
have, by the way. I don't even know who
that is. Half the people who get
reference in these things are like pop
culture and crap. I don't know. [\h__\h] all
God.
Oh gosh.
And just to be clear, I don't want to
make content lightsaber. Dismissing
shows as cringe or surface level ruins
audience engagement and emotional
nuance. Cynical creators create shallow
viewers and hurts the creators behind
the work. This can harm executive
decisions on struggling shows unfairly.
We should fight for the future of
animation, not mock it in the algorithm.
Anyway, going back to Sabre, he framed
this as tone problems. And one of the
things that came from that is that the
perfect victim myth got reinforced.
>> More resources in the description if you
don't know what that is.
>> Others used to use the video for content
without context. What do you mean?
>> Sorry, I Let me go back. What
>> unfairly? We should fight for the future
of animation, not mock it in the
algorithm.
What is this tangent about animation?
What?
Anyway, going back to Sabre, he framed
this as tone problems. And one of the
things that came from that is that the
perfect victim myth got reinforced. More
resources in the description if you
don't know what that is. Perfect victim
myth. Well, like perfect that whole
thing like perfect victim mentality. uh
like that only applies when it comes to
like the main instances I've seen that
being applied to is um you know someone
is a victim of something they have done
some things that are not good themselves
but it does not change the fact that
they were a victim of a certain thing
happening right um that would imply that
there was you know
a crime committed in the first place or
like they were a victim of something in
in that regard. And that's not the case
when it came to Saber.
It's like, dude, others used to use the
video for content without context. What
do you mean turns into, "How can I
monetize this?" Cartoon Sheep, person
I've never met before. This didn't reach
out to me, didn't quote any actual
intentions, and didn't seem interested
in checking his assumptions he made.
Well, I mean, we've already seen it
here, right? Where they they were like
complaining. They're like, "Oh, I didn't
have time to have my own space to make a
reply, right?" Or the fact that it was
quite difficult to reach out to KP uh
for a good little bit when it came to
like creators that were outside of
certain circles, right? Um the exception
to that would be obviously Hidden um
mainly around Lio's circle. So, there's
a bit of a difference there in terms of
like um comfortability in terms of like
who to speak to, if that makes sense. Um
I don't know. I I don't think you're
expected to reach out to people when
you're before doing a video on someone
as long as like the evidence that you
then put forward is correct.
a spectacle out of a story he wasn't a
part of, then acted like his read was
the neutral, mature one, but really it's
lazy and passive gaslighting in language
of reasonleness. This seems to be a
pattern with a lot of people that were
commenting on this case. I wonder if
they think I'm gaslighting.
What's gaslighting?
Wake up. And if your attention's really
good and not monetizing YouTube drama
for your own personal gain, why don't
you donate your monetized profits to
charity? I'll wait for the receipts. So,
one of
>> Oh, [\h__\h] off. What are you on about?
What are you on about? You're telling me
that you Dude, that's such a co- [\h__\h]
statement, dude. What? Because people
monetize certain things in terms of
content, that means they don't care
about something. You do understand that
people need to make a living sometimes,
right? If you want people to continue
doing videos when it comes to, I don't
know, exposing certain people or like
doing a specific style of content like
the expectation that the content is
unmonetized
or like or even caring about that, why
do you care? Like also like charity is
meant to be a thing of like, you know,
um, how do I word this?
You don't gloat about giving to charity,
right?
You just do it, right? You don't
It's You don't need receipts on it. Why
would you need receipts?
What? Like, so people would like feel
like they've got goody juic brownie
points in the eyes of KP. It's
ridiculous, right?
Like if you want to donate to charity,
donate to charity. You shouldn't It
shouldn't be a thing of like, oh, I feel
bad about something. I'm going to get
donate to charity to get like my sins
resolved. You know, that's between you
and yourself.
But again, I maybe I'm digging too
deeply into this.
She's virtual virtue signaling. Yen,
yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you very
much, Kyrise, for the two US dollars.
Yan KP doesn't understand how money how
money works or life. True. Um, yeah, Kai
Rise, people should like um work for
free,
right, KP? You should have miners work
for you unpaid, right? I think Nike
wants their uh, you know, their idea
back, but again, we'll keep going. of
the things I did was review the video
with other trauma survivors, but I
didn't realize that experience wasn't
universal. And then people benefited
from it, like this one incident where
someone shared a DM publicly without
context after offering to help me and
being a fanboy. And then, "Thank you
very much, Venkman, for the $5. And you
cannot get me this time. I know the word
perpetually.
Thank you very much for the five US
dollars. I very much appreciate it.
Child Sabre is in fashion. So true. It
has been for the longest time.
So so true.
She's playing into that 10th century
paid to get into heaven trick from the
Catholic Church. So true. So true. So
they can get another um you know million
dollar jet.
God, that reminds me. Um, oh, what was
his name? It was like that preacher,
right, who was just like, "Oh, I don't
want to um Oh, what was it he said? It
was something insane to a reporter." He
was like, "Oh, I I need a private jet
because there's like sin and devils on
public transport and planes."
Like, people need to look at mega
churches, dude. You don't need a tank to
like celebrate Christ.
And I'm not even a very religious
person, but even then, I can see that's
absolutely deranged. Absolute insanity.
A spicy comment was about coping, not
about dismissal. This wasn't ethics.
This was optics. And then there was the
situation with Courtney P. For those who
don't know, Courtney P is another
YouTuber and she got into a fight in the
live chat with another trauma survivor
and it was insane. And for the record, I
disagree with how Courtney acted. I
checked on the person she dismissed,
discussed things directly, and cut ties.
Something else I noticed is a lot of
people who talk about me only talk about
their side of the story, often framed
for clout or trends, and this can incite
harassment, unfortunately. So, just
please be more careful and have more
honest conversations.
>> Wait, what? Sorry, I may have Sorry,
that sentence didn't make any sense to
me.
>> Thing else I noticed is a lot of people
who talk about me only talk about their
side of the story.
>> Only talk about their side of the story.
Yeah. What are they meant to talk on
your behalf? Like, surely you wouldn't
want people to talk on your behalf in
terms of your side of the story, right?
I unless she's implying that more people
should have reached out to her before
covering it. I I guess that would be a
more fair critique. Also, thank you very
much Metalman for the um $5 US. Kenneth
Copeland has free chats. Jesus said it's
cool. Very true. Very, very, very true.
Also, we have reached the goal. So,
you get
Uhoh. How do I do this?
God damn it.
So you get another goal
again. Oh god, I only set that for 20
minutes
or 30 minutes. It's all right. We can
speedrun it. Um,
doesn't matter.
But no, um, the thing with a goal,
right, actually, I'll say this here. I
am planning on speaking to Rotting
Brain. I am going to get some goal
animation stuff done considering I'm,
you know, I have a bit more of a better
setup to do this with now. Um, that will
be in the works. I will be getting you
something.
I don't have a cool dog, you know. I
don't I don't have a Mr. Huck to to
stand in the background, you know. I
don't have any stickers, but
we will see. We will see what we get
done. But I will do something. I
promise.
Often framed for clout or trends. And
this can incite harassment
unfortunately. So just please be more
careful and have more honest
conversations.
There was how Mr. Enter treated me
initially. He used the lettering tone in
comments like, "This isn't My Little
Pony, Rachel." to dismiss valid
emotional testimony.
>> What
sorry and have more honest
conversations.
There was how Mr. Enter treated me
initially. He used the lettering tone in
comments like, "This isn't My Little
Pony, Rachel," to dismiss valid
emotional testimony.
>> Yeah, be
because it's not My Little Pony, Rachel.
It's uh it's serious allegations levied
against someone. I mean, it's going to
be different, right? Considering how a
lot of KP's content up until this point
has been about like um you know, the
Brony fandom or like different cartoon
creations and stuff like that and her
attending conventions and speaking at
conventions. It's very very very very
very different. You know, it's going to
there's a lot more weight to what you're
saying than is Rarity the best pony in
Ponyville or whatever's in the show,
right?
Like it's it's a completely fair thing
to say, right?
He reduced nuance trauma to poor tone,
not just mine, but other people's. Or
emotional instability. He positioned
himself as the reasonable adult versus
immature fan girl, painting the story as
punishment instead of pain. And he
focused more on bullet points and
timeline logic than the human impact. He
assumed he paid attention to the facts
of the situation,
the timeline being correct instead of
stuff you can't prove.
the iteration best iteration of sparkle
[\h__\h]
Oh god. Also, thank you very much Melman
for the $5 US. What season did the main
six deal with lovely essay allegations?
That's Oh, that's [\h__\h] evil, dude.
Oh god.
Oh
Jesus Christ. Um, oh, that was another
thing. That was another thing. I keep
getting distracted. I'm sorry, but I had
a thought about it.
And since we hit 1k subs and it is
Halloween, I've decided what I'm going
to try and do. Um, I've heard it can be
annoying to stream sometimes. Um, but
we'll have to find out. I was thinking
that we could do
um a small playthrough of Five Nights at
Freddy's.
Um, because I am really really bad with
jump scares, guys. I am really bad with
them. I will scream. I will [\h__\h] my
pants. I will [\h__\h] uh
Okay, maybe not that last one, but
basically I'm really bad with jump
scares.
Um, so I think that might be a plan. I
might get like some spooky stills sorted
for it. Could be fun. Um, but yeah, I
think I think that'll be a good idea.
So yeah,
let's keep going. claimed I was lying in
places without giving me a chance to
clarify. He ignored the deeper emotional
truth about what was being said and he
dismissed it as drama. Despite
everything, I still appreciate that Mr.
Enter gave me the chance to talk. Even
though I should have waited a little bit
and let me also just be clear about
this. Sometimes passion in men is seen
as genius, but passion in women is seen
as unstable. I know I'm intense. How I
present myself in my YouTube videos when
I'm a horse sometimes is not the same as
how I present myself in real life and
how my thought process works. I
personally
You're intense. Are we really going like
the um the sexism argument when it comes
to like how people have been handling
the KP stuff? Dude, also amazing visual,
Wade. Thank you, Becket. Koalas have a
smooth brain.
Since you spoke of FNAF, I sent you
something special in DMs. I'm scared
now. I'm very scared. God, let me have a
look. Have a look real quick.
What does Neville send me?
What is this?
Is this an 11 minute video of the scout
from TF2 explaining the [\h__\h] FNAF
law?
Dude,
I hate that you have that ready.
Nevertheless,
god damn it. Exaggerate myself for
comedy and that gets read as an
oversimplified version of my character
which affects my fandom friendship
sometimes. It makes me feel a little
unsafe. Something that I'm also seeing
is that people's friends or favorite
content creators are very special and
there's emotional connection there. And
when they're found out doing something
bad or perceived to be doing something
bad, then some people don't question
that loyalty. And like maybe you should,
maybe you should try and get every
possible perspective you can. Maybe your
friend's version of the truth might not
match the other perspective of the other
person. And then it gets into the bigger
when fanboys catch feelings and don't
get reciprocated. Suddenly I'm crazy or
too much. I stop being insightful and
start being unstable.
>> What?
What? Who? Unless they're referring to
um oh what's his name? Crisp. You know
the whole like um come on god damn it.
ejaculating on the clothing thing. But
apart from that, I don't know what the
hell they could be referring to here.
Gaslighting through facts. Survivors
mess up dates or details and get
dismissed completely. And trauma isn't a
spreadsheet. Pain doesn't happen in
bullet points. Like, can't we just admit
that Sabre might have made mistakes,
too? I get questions about whether I
regret platforming Emily, and the answer
is, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold
on, hold on. pain doesn't happen in and
get dismissed completely and survivors
mess up dates and details and get
dismissed completely.
Yeah, but from my understanding KP also
critiqued Saber for getting the timeline
like not perfect, right? Um,
so hypocrisy in my KP statement. Gulp
crazy isn't a spreadsheet. Pain doesn't
happen in bullet points. Like, can't we
just admit that Sabre might have made
mistakes, too. I get questions about
whether I regret platforming Emily, and
the answer is complicated. Emily
recently did a video where she opens up
about her side of things. And if you
want to hear from her perspective, link
is in the description. But I also want
to say this, the goal was never to make
Emily the center of this. It was to hold
patterns accountable. And I regret by
bringing Emily in, it distracted to what
the whole video was supposed to be.
What?
Sorry.
Oh, that's so [\h__\h] bad, dude.
I'm going to let this play just to make
sure I'm not like like clip chimping. I
don't think I was wrong to listen to
somebody and potentially try and help
them, but I think the execution and the
advice I gave could have been different
in hindsight. Maybe I should have been
more firm about her filing a police
report first. Even
dude,
so K. Okay, I could be I really hope I'm
not misconstruing this when it comes to
this. God damn it.
So, at least to me, right, this comes
off that like KP has basically said the
focus was never on the victim,
which is insane.
Yeah, victims got in the way of my hip
piece, dude. Also, more firm about her
filing police report first from my
understanding. I don't know if lie is
still in the chat. I don't think do do
we know if they ever actually went
forward with actually doing the police
report at all?
Like what do you mean more firm about
her filing a police report first?
If anything they what do you mean first?
Like again I'm not like a like a law
expert, right? I don't claim to be
anything in I'm not ponder sprocket,
right? Um but these things take a long
time, right? in terms of like
investigating and as soon as it like
hits an online space uh that can really
mess things up
uh in terms of like you know public
attention getting onto a case like this.
So I I believe either way even if they
you know um
the realist the realistic thing should
have been no video until the police
report is filed and the police get back
to them, right?
At least that's how I would understand
that works. I've never had to like fill
out police reports or do anything in
that regard. Thank God, right? I feel
like there'll be an entire like um
process, you know, if I had to do it, I
have to do it, right? But Jesus Christ
during editing, someone crossed
boundaries who knew what the video was
about. This isn't rare. This is a
pattern. And when people volunteer for
me, sometimes their expectations are fun
times with KP and they're being worked.
And me putting up my own boundaries
seems dismissive of their expectations.
I'm not interested in building a brand
on trauma. I'm not letting this get
reframed as a scandal when it was a
warning. Some things to take away from
this is have honest conversations with
your friends. What do you mean it was
framed as a warning?
The the warning was, you know,
what do you mean warning? It was it was
levied accusations. It wasn't anything
about a warning in it. What the [\h__\h] are
you on about, bro? I misheard that as a
law expert. Like, yes, the ancient law
of the US laws. Yeah.
And today on Game Theory, we're going to
be looking at the KP drama. God, can you
imagine if Matt Pat did like like drama
like you know ACC or like a mainline
commentary stuff? What a dark timeline.
Actually, to be fair, he is like he was
looking into going into um politics, so
we're not far off or your work
environment. It can save a lot of
stress. Trust me, I know you don't have
to agree with it, but I hope you sit
with it. Especially the child
endangerment behavior. How can we use
this experience to better share online
communities for kids and adults? Should
we have more strict age restrictions or
more universal moderation guidelines for
creators? And just a reminder that
harassment is never okay. Criticism of
the video and situation is fine. Wait,
how do you even enforce that for like
online video creators? Surely that's
just a Discord thing, right? Cuz the the
main thing that was h it's not just a
Discord thing, right? But obviously in
this instance it was like happening over
Discord where stuff was being shared. Um
I really don't think like miners should
be allowed on Discord. Um I really don't
think that should be the case. I think
once you open yourself up to having like
miners in your space, the risk is just
so much higher and not worth it. Um,
like I'm not saying that everyone who
has like a minor, you know, a Discord
server that allow like people under the
age of 18 in it are going to are like
creating a grooming ring, right? What
I'm saying is you open up for that
activity to possibly occur in your space
and then you will hold the
responsibility to um correct that if
that makes sense. Uh, as the person with
some level of authority even if it is
just, you know, you're an online
presence, right? you still hold a level
of authority. Um, so then that falls on
you.
Just just get rid of kids off Discord,
dude. Like I'm so I I
used to get so annoyed by it as a kid,
right? About like, you know, oh, you
shouldn't spend so much time on your DS
and stuff like that or you you know, all
that stuff, right? Um, but I really do
appreciate at the end of the day. Um,
it's really weird, right? I'm a 2000s
kid and yet I still grew up with um oh
what did I have? I had a Nokia. I had a
Nokia until like halfway through high
school. Dude, it was awesome. You know,
actually missed half of these weird
fandom spaces.
Um
but yeah,
only it is insane that the UK stuff said
that Discord is exempt. Uh it's because
they check for IDs in SSW servers. my
guy. The grooming doesn't help happen in
NSFW servers. God.
Oh, don't even get me started on the UK
thing with Discord. Do you know did you
know that they had um had a data leak
recently with all the people who put
their IDs in? Thank god I never did that
[\h__\h]
It was a It was going to happen, right?
It it was going to happen. and everyone
saw it coming a mile away when it came
to like the uh the online safety stuff
when it comes to the UK laws. Um it it's
insane. I I think people are getting too
comfortable with uh sharing private
information online. I mean recently we
had a whole thing on Twitch, right, of
people giving birth on Twitch.
Like can you imagine that? Could you
imagine that? Like you'll be your as a
little fetus like the second you spawn
in, right? you've got a camera on you
for the whole world to see. Like that
that stream was deranged. Like you had
people in the chat going like w push
and somehow Twitch allows that. Like
that's the most extreme example I think
I can think of recently that's ever
happened. Um but yeah, it's it's
ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous.
And I know with the whole like ID thing,
I know Australia is also clamping down
on that. Um, so more places are probably
going to follow. Um, I think what
Australia is doing is doing is okay. Um,
I believe they're restricting YouTube
access. Um, I I don't know how I feel on
that entirely given that some of the
YouTube content can be informative and
it also kind of reduces the ability to
um h what was it?
um
you know for third party uh news uh in
information. I think that does kind of
like it can restrict that which is bad.
There's a lot of there's there's pros
and there's cons. Um yeah the D the CEO
was in the [\h__\h] chat. Check this
man's hard drive now. I'm joking. I'm
joking. But still it's ridiculous that
was allowed to happen.
The chat was spamming L baby.
I shouldn't laugh at that. [\h__\h]
Oh, that's so [\h__\h] man. I mean, like,
I don't understand how people have like
we've looped back around. I know this is
a tangent, right? Whatever. You deal
with it, right? I know this is a
tangent, right? Do you guys remember
back in like um I'm talking like peak um
tea drama like era like uh drama getting
type of stuff. You had like uh uh family
05. You had the Ace family, not that
Ace, different one. Um where where
everyone was getting up on their ass for
like um monetizing their children, for
putting them online,
um absolutely like berating the crap out
of it for it being allowed to happen. I
know Daddy 5 was a bit different because
it was actual, you know, abuse. Um, but
it's just insane how we've come back
around now where people are just giving
birth live.
It's It's insane. [\h__\h] spawn camp
ratio. It's rough.
Oh god.
Australia is on my [\h__\h] list because the
feminist group who caused the debanking
of NSFW creators. Uh I god I don't know
about that. I know there's a lot of
issues with Australia. There's a lot of
the stuff with the um indigenous people
uh when it comes to Australia and how
they're getting treated, how they're
having to fight for their rights. Um
absolutely [\h__\h] up what's happening in
Australia. Like
dude, England as well. the whole world's
going to [\h__\h] But also at the same
time, I refuse to be a a politics
streamer. So, I think we're going to go
right back out of that tangent and right
back into KP.
But people use this opportunity to tell
me to unalive myself. And me taking
space from the situation was seen as a
dismissal of the concerns. I feel like
I'm not allowed to have boundaries
sometimes. and consider why you have to
tell a person you never met that they
shouldn't be alive anymore. That's not
okay.
>> Just some bonus things to take away from
this. I also didn't realize how weird
Broady Fandone was like the level, but
it seems to me that he's very mentally
ill and I hope he gets the help he
needs. Sorry.
>> Okay, back.
>> Oh, [\h__\h] me.
And maybe takes a break from the
internet.
>> Yeah. So regardless of CLA, the Black
Griffin tweets are still kind of weird.
But what about Destiny? What about the
kids that Gabe was DMing for those?
Sorry. I don't know why that's tick with
me so much.
What about Destiny? Yeah, guys. What
about Destiny? Let me deflect a hot
minute.
What the [\h__\h] Sorry that I got [\h__\h]
like curve ball by that. Sorry.
>> You're weird. But what about Destiny?
>> What about Destiny, guys? I mean,
Destiny's [\h__\h] deranged, don't get me
wrong, right?
I don't know. It's just an out of pocket
[\h__\h] comment from KP of all people to
say.
>> What about the kids that Gabe was DMing?
For those who don't remember, Destiny
was Black Griffin's original accuser.
What about the deviant art note where
he's trying to hang out with a 40?
>> Wait, is this a different Destiny?
Is this a please tell me this is a
different destiny
>> old Sabre used my video's performance as
an excuse to ignore the issues and shout
out to all my friends and supporters and
fans that were skeptical of information
when it was first coming out. You guys
are the real MVPs.
I think people were mainly skeptical
about your information KP. But moving on
and I really appreciate it. I know this
was a weird situation, but your loyalty
and patience means a lot and I really
appreciate you. Like, never stop shining
and just some happy things to end on.
>> Wait, it's not streamer destiny. Okay.
Okay. It's a different destiny. How
[\h__\h] funny that would be if just KP
starts wrestling Destiny?
So, how does food shops uh you know, how
does food shops like tie into all this?
Listen, all I'm saying about that stuff
when it comes to the actual streamer
Destiny, right? Uh
is it a coincidence that the person with
like uh you know getting uh nudes from a
minor? Destiny um decided to have you
know one of their orbiters be someone
who allegedly receive was told to
consume lollycon to uh from their
therapist.
Is that a coincidence
or is it just a strange twist of fate?
I mean,
you could call that destiny.
So, what's next? I've been working on a
show pitch and I'm really hoping
something like my story can change the
world. This is my dog.
>> Dare you joke, but I pay so much money
to watch that happen. I want the I want
the KP Ethan Hassan Destiny content,
dude. That'd be awesome. Toby. He's very
cute and he likes to wear outfits.
>> Not the dog [\h__\h] Not the dog. Not the
dog. Not the dog. Sympathy bait. No. No.
No. No. No. No. This is not how this was
supposed to go. Sorry. I watched that
movie like three times recently.
Jesus Christ.
>> Please enjoy.
>> Okay. No, I'm not watching Balaki. I'm
not watching Balaki. God.
But yeah, that was um KP's like original
like response to this like uh you know,
not the one they put out, but the one
that Becky managed to find.
Evil stuff, dude.
It's worse than Fu Shop dated a minor
and called them her little lolly and
that she'd go to prison over what the
[\h__\h] you want about bro. I think Emerald
has a stream section on it.
See, I tried looking at Emerald streams
recently. I can't seem to find it unless
it's like in a playlist or something. I
can't find. But yeah.
Oh, I'm going to take a sec. I'm going
to need to drink. I need a drink. Just
going to read chat for a little bit.
Oh god.
What do we think, guys? KP KP um KP
vindicated.
I think they got this.
Oh gosh.
Now like an edited segment from his live
channel. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. I'm not
sure I'll have a look at that at some
point. Did I did I did see the uh the
food shops um hutch debate. That was
really funny to see.
That was really funny to see actually. I
did enjoy that.
But yeah.
Yeah. One more video and she wins. It's
actually It's actually just Jar Jar 2.0,
buddy. Jar 2.0. Right. Moving right
along. Next we have
Shitten. I mean, sorry, Hidden.
Thank you very much again, Kai, for the
$2 US. KP is one more video away from
bringing it back. So, so true, Ky. So,
so true.
Oh my god. So true. God, did I set the
goal wrong as well?
I'm such a pro streamer.
God damn it. Oh well.
But anyway, we have uh Hidden's video
which is a call with KP. I'm not sure.
Not Heaton. Not Heaton. Hidden. You
[\h__\h] goober. Um [\h__\h] on [\h__\h]
on hidden fake ass.
No, we love hidden in this household.
Hidden hidden storage shell. Um,
I don't I'm not sure what's in this
call. I haven't actually seen it myself,
so it'll definitely be interesting.
Heaton interviewed KP. Shut up, Ky.
Shed up.
Jesus. But God, this is an I'm going to
have to speed this up. Right.
Anyway,
let's get right into Hidden's Cool with
KP. This
>> isn't a Courtney video. I know, but hear
me out. I recently had a call on the
third of a pogo with the YouTuber I love
Kim Possible a lot. Me and her have been
>> Yes. Yes, dreamer. I know. I know. But
your trigger, it'll be okay. It's okay.
It's okay. We can we can make it through
this together. Okay, buddy. It'll be
okay. contact since her controversy
started and I was on her staff to help.
Though I was never quite present due to
my real life and we never quite managed
to connect for a call. I was to an
extent fully unaware of how malicious KP
can be and how willingly she obscures
things such as her lying about being no
longer in contact with Courtney despite
posting this screenshot into her server.
Oh.
Uh Matt is DMing Courtney about suicide.
though. If you're going to kill
yourself, make sure to do it light. What
the [\h__\h]
Mad cuz you can't teach kids on mass to
masturbate. Look, mad. I don't really
care what you wrote on your fanfiction
about me. I also don't care about your
hurt feelings that KP wanted a rich Jew
instead of you. Keep crying. What the
[\h__\h] are you on about?
What?
Thank you very much. Oh god, it's Crash.
Hi Crash.
Thank you very much for the five US
dollars. Uh I love Kim Possible has
almost ruined Kim Possible for me. Can
barely look at my she rule 34 shortcut
tab anymore. That's the real tragedy
here. Thank you very much, Crash. I feel
so sorry for you. It's truly a loss.
Christ.
>> A message she clearly got from Courtney.
So when I got into this call, it was
originally under the premise of
genuinely wanting to help KP improve her
second response and explaining to her
why her first
>> check my DMs. God, what have you done
now?
I'm scared.
Ready is not ready. Reddish drummer is
evil.
Remember how she got the voice drafts of
KP's original spot? I got this line.
What's this?
>> Ah, okay. Thank you very much. I'm sure
I might pick that one up. Thank you,
Fisher.
>> First response was perceived so poorly.
KP took it upon herself to lie to my
face directly about a multitude of
things such as entirely misrepresenting
the cool she had with Becket and
mischaracterizing Becket as someone who
cares not about children being heard in
the DIA game situation. When it was made
abundantly clear to her beforehand that
Becket was not interested in that
situation, she turned him into a
backstabber and a liar that had bad
intentions at heart because he spoke to
people that knew KP behind the scenes
while she was also talking to people as
well such as Lazy Bedhead, Mr. Enter,
and Slug. And meanwhile tried to use
people like me, Lio and Becket to save
herself from the consequences of her
actions. And she even goes out of her
way to perpetuate a lie told to her by
Emily, the Sabers Spark accuser, about
Becket because it fits her narrative of
him. And in the end, she implores my
help with comments for a second
response, which by the way is just as
unhinched as the first. And upon having
that pointed out to me, I realized that
I am entirely uncomfortable with playing
a part and possibly being used as a
justification in someone's weird,
self-centered, and maliciously obscured
crusade against their critics. Because
nowhere in here does it ever seem like
KP is actually interested in
accountability. Much rather, it feels
like she's suffering from post-traumatic
disorder with how being asked to take a
minimum of admission of wrongdoing seems
to make her freak out. And unlike KP, I
am a huge fan of transparency when it
comes to my involvement in situation.
So, here's my call with her in full.
Excuse the fact that this failed to
record KP saying hi to me because I'm a
dumbass working OBS along with many
clicks, coughs, and scratches on my
drawing tablet because my mic just like
KP decided to be extra sensitive today.
>> Yeah, buddy.
>> Hello.
>> I'm good. How are you doing?
the imaginings.
>> Yeah.
>> So,
>> yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, side note, but did you have any um
questions about the mad stuff? I don't
know if he was still bothering you.
>> Oh my god. Hi, Vincent Martin's favorite
YouTuber. Hi, Kay Hawk. How are you
doing, buddy?
Hope you're doing well.
>> But he's kind of um he's he's own rabbit
hole. Like, it's all good. Like
originally I only reached out cuz I was
like, "Huh, maybe he also like put the
allegations he put towards Courtney into
KP server, but then I saw he didn't." So
I was like, "Whatever." I tried reaching
out to him on my own. He rejected me cuz
I'm associated with Lio. And then I had
a friend reach out, also got rejected
cuz associated with Lio. So I'm just
like, "Okay, so you're just talking [\h__\h]
to talk [\h__\h] Good to know,
>> right?" Yeah. Yeah. Um he he um like
this is something I'm trying to not be
more mindful of, but just kind of like
notice about things as far as people um
close to me. I got get a lot of guy not
a lot but like every once in a while it
happens where someone um is doing stuff
for me and then they de develop the
feels and um not that I'm like so
amazingly attractive or anything like
that but um Matt specifically has always
kind of had um
>> how do I put this in a nice way um
he doesn't he he doesn't like being
challenged it's always kind of been like
that with him even when like when we
were friends he would kind of assume
things like uh black and whitely and
then I would have to like calm him down
and kind of just like
>> damn
Oh, I must have lost my voice for a
second there.
What? What have you sent me now? Play
these two.
Okay.
Are you happy now?
Are you Are you happy, Fishy? Are you
happy now?
Are you happy?
You made me do this.
>> It's not your fault, man. Kind of thing.
Um, so basically he has this um or he
got into his head that I sided with um
Courtney um with the Bonabel thing
essentially and to to hurt him I think
or something like that because I wanted
to use Courtney for drama abuse. So
that's what he's like that was his his
MMO and Courtney and I have talked about
it like this happened a while ago but we
were like we're not even that close. So,
I don't really understand why. So, I
don't know. He's very much emotional
thinker kind of dude. And he's I don't
know if the the the
>> You didn't hear it. Do you wanna Do you
want to hear it? Cuz I think I have the
soundboard. I added it to your server.
We have to find it. I added it to your
server, Khawk.
Khawk.
Oh, Khawk.
My little Nintendo male.
Just for you, Kook. Just for you. God
damn it. Was I these me?
What is this?
>> No, I review rapes.
>> Oh, god damn it.
Oh god.
[\h__\h] up.
The Twitter is still up, but he would
just like I think I think he called
Courtney anti-Semitic because she said
the word Jew, for example. So,
everyone's an enemy except him, I guess.
I don't know. So, I think he needs
probably help, but that's that's out of
my wheelhouse a little bit. You know,
you know, these all these people on the
internet are a little bit broken. So,
>> yeah, he's like I originally only cared
about him cuz he was putting out like
grooming allegations. So, I was like,
"Oh, okay, weird. Let me just look into
that." And then when I reached out to
get like anything from him, he was like
he suddenly went like, "Oh, no, I'm not
going to talk to you." So, I'm like,
"Okay, how real can your grooming
allegations be?" You know, like
Whatever you do, don't play the
soundboard in ASUS server called Ready
Be Like
I feel like I know what it is, so I'm
not going to play it cuz I think there's
a certain soundboard of Ready I will not
be playing on stream.
Oh my god, Fishy.
I wonder if the voice notes are picking
up. That's a good question.
Hopefully they are.
What is this?
>> Thank you.
>> Did that get picked up on stream?
Did it
Did that Did that go through? Did that
go through? I'm waiting for chat to
catch back up. I'm not not moving on
until I find out.
I swear to God if that went through, I'm
going to I will commit violence.
It did.
I hate you.
I'm locking you in the [\h__\h] cage.
Kha, can you get like your fish, please?
And like lock them in the in the cage.
I beg.
It's only funny when you mock other
people, Fishy. We have a deal. Okay.
It's It's only fair.
>> Yeah. Um some a minor in Courtney server
called the mom and then and then Mad's
like, "Oh, see grooming grooming." And
um I'm just like it's kind of like is is
it is it though if if you know so it's
anyway um I I do think Courtney kind of
makes messes for herself that she
doesn't really um care to clean up but
you know this is like that. Anyway um
little sidetracked. So um I know um I
know Lio server hates me. I know the
majority of people hate me and um I was
kind of um I guess to catch you up. So,
um, the most
not obnoxious, but the one of the most
vocal people is, um, this Beck like,
well, how much do you know about stuff
before I just talk for like 5 million
years?
>> So, I I know pretty much like
everything. Like, I've watched the video
when it came out, Ex Fallout. I I've
seen Becket cover it. I've seen I think
Saber's response as well. And I've seen
um Mr. Andrew's like coverage of it as
well to an extent. So, I'm pretty much
in there, but also obviously why me on a
few blanks as well. So,
>> okay. Okay. So, yeah. Um, basically I um
>> I was kind of frustrated cuz um L and I
already talked about this, but maybe he
hasn't told you about that this but like
Lio was the one who originally suggested
or recommended that I talk to Beckett
and he was like I trust Becket. I'm like
okay Lio. And um
>> I feel I know I know my read is off but
I feel like the most recent response was
>> my intention was kind of just to tell
people to to do their own homework.
Yeah. And I don't I think
there's a lot of emotional responses to
a lot of this and my my Q&A is going to
be focused a lot on like citing laws and
stuff like that and like how everything
would kind of turn into like a legal
like not like a legal sense but just
like you know this is like regardless of
who you think who did what or whatever
like not focus not bringing up like how
this would play like not citing any
examples or doing any research and just
saying you know this is false because
Emily lied is I don't incredibly
productive. And I know Becket in his
like recent stream like called me names.
I think he
>> I remember this. She wanted me to be mad
at Mads over them leaving the server
once Courtney uh over Courtney, but from
what I remember, KP actively made the
server space more uncomfortable than it
already was.
Are you Are you someone from um uh KP's
community? Uh Ginger Snaps, I'm not
familiar with you. I haven't seen you
about before,
but interesting stuff.
>> Used the Arsler um a couple of times. Um
so yeah, I'm trying to just have a level
response.
>> Thank you very much, Just a Girl, for
the $5 US. Even the bronies don't like
KP. That should be a wakeup call for
her. So So true. Just a girl.
>> Don't worry. Don't just yell and scream
at people, but it's it's hard to do. And
yeah, I don't know. I just It's just a
mess, I guess.
>> Yeah. Like I I I know that a lot of
people were originally like, "Oh, you
know, you shouldn't make a response
because people are most likely going to
tear into it anyway." And I know with
this response specifically, a lot of
people felt like it was supposed to be
sort of like accountability, but it came
off as more you're still being like,
"Oh, you know, I'm still right about
these people. Like, I know this all
happened, but I'm still right about it."
And I think people were like, "Well,
that's not really accountability. It's
like you were still trying to push your
agenda." No, I'm going to be for real. I
I was in the camp of like just don't
make a response because I was in a
similar boat to you like last year
because when the whole thing with Lio
happened, I was one of the people who
was in it. Like I was one of the people
who hurt Lio really badly and because
hopeless Peaches no longer was around
and because um you know Lumi was no
longer around, people honed in on me
instead which led to like
>> and you take the moon and you take the
moon and you take the moon. a lot of
things of myself being like basically
leaked to put it simply where people
were very happy to talk about me really
really negatively calling me like
anti-Semitic and all that and I just
ignored it. I I didn't make a response
at any point in time. I kind of just
went like vanished for a little while
and then came back and then people were
like well actually now that we think
about it you're kind of not as bad as we
thought you were and I was like I know
um you guys just sucked. You guys were
just [\h__\h]
>> Yeah. Like I was basically like you guys
were just [\h__\h] because you wanted to
be [\h__\h] because that was popular at
the time to be like an [\h__\h] to me cuz
like obviously it was because when these
people perceive an opportunity to hate
somebody.
>> This is the last one. Fishy. I swear to
God.
I need to I need to start extorting
Fishy.
I'm not putting that up on screen. You
guys don't need to see that. That's kind
of [\h__\h] up. Fishy.
That's That's kind of [\h__\h]
I'm not going to show on stream. No one
needs to see that.
>> They'll take that opportunity because
it's what entertains them. So, it
doesn't matter whether or not they're
necessarily right or wrong. They just
want to be hateful. And that's why I
didn't engage because I felt like
regardless of how good my reply was
going to be and regardless of like how
great of a reply I would make, they
would not care. They would just be like,
"Oh, well, you still suck cuz I say so."
And it's like, "Okay."
Yeah. Yeah. Um, I guess my reasoning is
like a I'm I'm I'm getting really really
frustrated with the the DA games child
predation basically going unchecked
because people are just mad about SA or
whatever stuff. And I'm just like like
Becca I think admitted at the beginning
of the second video. Someone's
transcribed it for me cuz I I couldn't
watch it. I'd be a mess. But like they
were just like,
"Oh my god, don't tell me we're doing
this again." What is it with people
unable to watch videos when it comes to
this and they're responding to criticism
on them from said videos and they can't
watch the [\h__\h] videos like
Heaton? Heaton Heaton is that you is
that you buddy? Just a bit of Heaton
peeking out around the corner. He
>> I think he starts off with saying like
hey I'm not I'm still not going to look
into the video game stuff. And I'm just
like okay like I guess hate on me
forever sure but like you know kids are
kind of like there's been rumors in
there. There's been like people that
have been arrested in there and I don't
know like so my my whole
>> God it's almost as if the video games
video should have been its own separate
video and should not have been lumped in
with the Saber Spark video. God, it's
interesting how that works. KP
also what do you mean though people are
talking about the DA game stuff? You
deleted your video talking about it. You
thought you had good critiques in it. Um
what's up buddy? like like I I
understand what they expected, right?
From a general uh audience consumer, if
people were not paying attention to the
uh KP drama, right? Um
and they were looking at the DA game
stuff.
KP's video doesn't exist anymore and
they don't want archives of it up. If
they think the stuff from a DA game
standpoint is fair critique, then they
should have done it as its own separate
video and it should not be in love with
the Saber stuff. It would have been
probably a a much different story. uh
probably not much different. They would
still get hate on the saber aspect, but
still it would have been a lot more
different. Like what did they expect was
going to happen? Like from a like again,
let me I'll reiterate cuz I think I
worded that a bit weirdly. From a
general audience's perspective, it's not
like they're going to be able to find,
you know, uh KP talking about DA Games
anymore. Um they now know them as the
person who false accused Saber Spark.
So, if they try and make a video or like
relitigate the stuff when it comes to uh
DA Games, are they [\h__\h] No one's
going to want to touch it because it
came from KP, someone who's
untrustworthy. That's just a general
thing. That's not like necessarily how
it should be seen, right? I'm not saying
that that's why Beckard's not talking
about DA games. That Beck has just made
it clear that he has not got an interest
in the in the topic or covering the
topic specifically. That's shouldn't be
held over his head. Like not everyone
has to cover every single topic under
the sun.
Like you're not going to make me sit
down and read like a 10,000page
uh AMC document, right? Um
it's it's deranged.
I found out KP made the first video from
a potential employer because I had her
on my resume and I forgot.
Unsurprisingly, my prospects have been
better since removing her from the CV.
Well, I'm glad things are going better
for you, Jinger Snaps. Um, I I don't
know who you're what your I don't know
if you work Oh, no. Sorry. It's like 2
a.m. my time, so Okay, you work for KP.
Well, I'm very sorry to hear that. If
you're thinking of working for her, I'd
strongly suggest volunteering for your
state or country arts coalition. Better
prospects that way. Well, there you go.
My whole like frustration is kind of the
lack of education going on here and the
lack of just like Saber's innocent
because um I want him to be innocent
because I don't want to like I I don't I
don't know. I think it's a mix like
honestly of I think like I think Emily
should have been more vocal but I also
think Saber might have misread what she
wanted um as well. So,
I don't know. Like I
>> I guess that's kind of my angle right
now is just like okay like regardless of
who you believe like these like here's
here's some facts that you know about
like these kind of cases and like how
trauma works and and that kind of thing.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I mean I guess that's like the
hard part. The hard part is like coming
back from this in a way that you know
people recognize you for being a human
who will make mistakes. Like I think I
said this myself shelf about you in the
way was like hey you know obviously KP
is new to this stuff. Obviously, this is
like the first time this ever has been
handled by her. So, you know, it's not
unlikely that she botched it. Like, we
can stop pretending that other people
wouldn't have botched it as well for
like, you know, if they tried. So, being
overly cool about it is kind of
unnecessary. But I also see a lot of the
criticisms people are making where it's
like, yeah, this probably could have
been done a little differently. And then
obviously the whole thing about like
Courtney and um you altering the victim
statement to an extent came out and that
was obviously a huge issue cuz like a
victim's testimony is like the greatest
added like evidence that you have in
order to go with things. So when people
heard about it being altered and changed
to be more damaging, it obviously like
pulled away credibility from the
accusations being made cuz now it felt
like
>> Thank you very much, Khawk, for the $20.
Thank you. That's very generous of you.
Mad at you, but take my money, lol.
Oh, thank you very much, Kay Hawk. Thank
you. Thank you. Thank you. Very much
appreciate it.
Framing more than felt like coverage.
And I think that's like a huge part that
people have problems with, which a lot
of people like in that regard like
direct their energy more at Courtney
than anything because Courtney's the one
who's like, "Oh, you know, I didn't have
any part in this." I totally didn't have
any influence when she very clearly had.
So, I guess you're scared in that regard
at least a little bit. Okay. I mean,
that's fair. I um I don't think I can
address that in a way that's not going
to make people mad, though. But I guess
like my intent with that was just more
clarity than manipulation. Um you know,
like I think I think we changed like a
sentence or two. like it wasn't as it's
not like we wrote the thing for her, but
no, I understand that that that
criticism. That's fair. Um
I guess um
like I don't want to like
like I've already talked a little bit
about Lio about my my just general
frustration. Like I should have never
talked to Becket cuz I didn't realize
how emotionally invested he already was
in um Saber's innocence or lack of
>> what
do you mean emotionally invested
>> thereofever or whatever to the point
where he's just like I'm like psych
psychologically this might be happening.
He's like I don't care about psych or
psychology. I'm just like this whole
thing is what um there was also a sit
>> wait you're an expert in psychology all
of a sudden? What are you on about? I
mean, Becket emot I know Beckett like
has gotten like emotionally invested in
topics before, but like he has no like
like pre-existing relationship when it
comes to um Saber Spark. Um I don't know
what the [\h__\h] he on about.
Like I think I think from my memory um
what was it?
Uh
yeah know I I believe that like uh
Becket had made some like snarky remarks
towards Saber Spark at one point but
again my memory could be a bit off so
don't like quote me off that like I went
about like before this situation
happened right um so I don't know what
the hell he's on about or sorry I don't
know what the hell she's on about. It's
ridiculous.
Sabre and
Sabre and Becky were actually husbands.
Clearly a conflict of interest. So, so
true. Place boulder. Very true.
>> Situation where he got on a call with
Emily and he tried to convince her that
her childhood trauma wasn't um valid
because she didn't advocate for herself
as a child. Um so I got Yeah. Uh, so I
got a statement from Emily about that.
And again, like not trying to paint back
it in any light, but I'm just kind of
really frustrated that um I gave someone
my time for the sake of like clarifying
things, but I thought he'd focus a
little bit more on the DA game stuff cuz
that's a pretty like there's tons of
documentation for that. That's pretty
cut and dry. And he kind of more grilled
me and essentially embarrassed me
because he wanted to hurt my
credibility.
>> What the [\h__\h] are you on about? Me.
I'm going to uh I'm going to crash out
here for a sec.
What do you mean? What are you [\h__\h]
on about your credibility? What
credibility did you have in the first
place? You made My Little Pony ranting
videos. You made videos talking about
how you're cutting off um Lily Orchard,
how you're doing like media reviews,
media critiques, right? What the [\h__\h] do
you mean credibility? You having a bad
take when when it comes to a situation
as serious as this does not affect your
credibility when it comes to power
scaling different things in terms of
fiction. What are you on about?
Absolutely deranged [\h__\h]
a dead.
Absolutely deranged.
Absolutely [\h__\h] deranged. Me.
I don't want to hear it. Like let me
play this again. the sake of like
clarifying things, but I thought he'd
focus a little bit more on the DA game
stuff.
>> Also, the DA game stuff, right? Uh
there's clear documentation, so there's
less to critique in terms of that,
right? Oh, wait, wait. What do you mean?
I have like I I have a part of my video
which is fact factually proven and
documented in terms of stuff happening
when it comes to the DA game stuff. But
I also have my other section of my video
where I am levering leveling like faulty
accusations against someone thus making
that person a victim of false
accusations of wait and what do you mean
you're going to be critiquing me more on
that compared to the actual like proven
stuff? What the hell are you gone about?
What logical sense when it comes to this
woman? I swear to God
like that's not how the world works KP.
It's not how it works. Maybe um Mr.
Ender was right. This isn't just your
average pony situation or whatever the
[\h__\h] right? This is some serious [\h__\h]
dude. What are you on about? What the
[\h__\h] are you on about stuff? Cuz that's
a pretty like there's tons of
documentation for that that's pretty cut
and dry. And he kind of more grilled me
and essentially embarrassed me because
he wanted to hurt my credibility
regarding Saber. And so I I talked to
Lion and I was like, "Hey, like I really
regret." And um talking to Becket, he's
pretty like the thing that really
frustrated me um now that I've had some
time to sit with it is um he even before
the um
the vict the the the the the text logs
of the the Skype chats or whatever came
out, he was he was convinced it like it
was a false rape allegation without any
real evidence one way or the other. It
was because Saber talked to him and
Emily had some baggage in her past. That
was like his his all he needed for for
him to call it a false rape allegation.
And
>> what?
>> No, I I think I think what was used in
terms of it being a false rape
accusation is the fact that once looking
into things, right? It was proven that
you and Courtney manipulated the victim
testimony, thus altering the victim
statement. Something that you should
never [\h__\h] do. No matter how good,
how bad a victim statement is or isn't,
you should not be the one to go ahead
and change details about it. You are
trying to rewrite history no matter how
small or big the changes when it comes
to that testimony.
It removes your credibility. It invites
you to go ahead and have a um
in it basically input your own personal
world perspectives, your world views,
the way you see a situation into that
statement. So, it no longer becomes the
victims.
It's that simple.
I'm sure there are other things I can't
think off the top of my head when it
comes to the original stuff, when it
comes to Becket's perspective, when it
comes to um the whole Saber Spark stuff.
But again, also she has just admitted
here that when it came to the sky blocks
that um I believe it's the sky blocks.
Uh if they're referring to what I think
they're referring to, it's the um it's
the it's the stuff that Sabre managed to
find.
She's basically saying that that was a
form of like evidence that could be used
against it being, you know, uh a
credible accusation, you know. Um,
yeah. To to today, Junior.
Uh, thank you very much, Just the Girl,
for the $2 US.
There's also the fact that he dug up the
text logs. Yeah, exactly. Uh, exactly. I
may be conflating uh the Skype logs with
the text logs or something. Two two
different things.
If so, that's my bad. Um, but but still,
the art she's doing on screen looks like
Perseveron. No, no, no, no. Crash.
Boo.
No. Uh, I I really like this art to be
honest. It's um it's Hidden's like take
on like a Warhammer 40k character or
like uh if they were in that world. I
think that's really cool.
>> I sweep I sweep for the art.
>> That's misleading at the very I feel
like that's misleading at the very best
because it's not it's not fact and it's
also not looking in it's not accounting
for any of the trauma responses that
either one of them would have had. And
um
>> what trauma responses? What are you
referring to?
>> I don't know. I I just
And then like he he interviews me. He
interviews like friends I used to be
friends with as a way to like
paint this picture of me just being an
arrogant little um spoiler child or
whatever. So yeah, I guess I'm just
trying to
>> You spoke to other people around you
to get a better idea about who you are
without your biased self interpretation
of yourself to build the full picture.
What are you talking about? That's quite
normal to do. Becca did more than what a
normal person may like a normal person
covering this kind of thing would do.
like I that I'm I'm gonna crash out
to grapple with everything, but I'm just
also frustrated because there's a lot of
biases going around and like that are
not really
based in any factual information besides
like people like you know people just
wanting Saber to be innocent.
>> Yeah.
>> Like regardless I don't know. Does that
that make any sense? Like
>> No, I see it. Like the problem a lot of
times around is like when a bigger
content creator makes like a and I'm
going to call what Becky did sort of
like a hit piece because that's kind of
what it is. It it leads it leads to the
audience for obvious reasons being like,
"Oh, you know, since my favorite content
creator said this, it must be true and
they stop doing their own research
because it's easier to rely on somebody
else's opinion than on your own." But
like I guess the other problem is like
because of like everything that's come
out about the video and about Emily, the
it's not so much that people don't want
to believe the allegations, but it's
more that people cannot anymore because
of how like problematic everybody
involved in the situation was. Because
you have Emily who actively hides her
her identity despite having her own
platform and then you know originally
coming out with being like hey you know
I think he thought there was consent
because it was implied but there wasn't
and then allowing Courtney to change
that which comes off as like
manipulating it to make it look worse
when originally that seems to have been
her own opinion. And then people like
like you know Sophie Strugs or whatever
her name is. I I keep forgetting. Um
like um
>> these damn horse people
>> these damn horse people I swear. No. um
like people like her who have this weird
entire social relationship with Claire
where when Cla was interviewed she
actually said I don't even know who this
person is like I have to be reminded of
who they are because we interacted that
little but then on the other hand you
have Sophie like showing herself off as
like Cla's friend which that's a whole
problem in itself because you know
there's a level of relationship that's
just not there and then you have people
like you know Brony Fandon obviously
attached to it which we don't we don't
have to talk about why that's a problem
because oh my god um
>> yeah yeah I was um I he's he's very
mentally unstable that was my kind way
of putting him in the script of just
like you know he he just kind a after
like things weren't going as well as he
thought they were, he just kind of did
his own thing. And you know, it's really
weird like like just from a um a time a
timeline perspective of someone saying,
"I'm not going to throw you under the
bus." Like that is the screenshot I have
and then he throws me under the bus like
I think within hours.
>> Yeah. Like that's just stuff where like
it leads to people being like looking at
the accusations being put out and being
like, "hm, if these are the people who
talk about these allegations, I kind of
have a hard time believing them." And I
think that's sort of like the problem
that led up to like people no longer
giving you and everybody else
credibility because now it just every
like it felt like everybody was a vest
that had their own closet like skeletons
in their closet their own like things
that made them untrustworthy. And I know
um I know Mr. Enter has made a response
to you like to your your apology video
coming out. Um and where he like he
basically calls you a liar as far as I'm
aware. And I was like you know what um
I'm not keeping up anymore. I don't I
don't know what's going on anymore. But
I think a lot of people have expected a
video where you kind of were like hey
you know I'm sorry I kind of botched
this. this was never my intention to do
and then just be done with it. But a lot
of people felt like it kind of feels
disingenuous and rather more like KP is
still trying to, you know, prove that
she was within her right to do what she
did and people were just being mean to
her about it, which I agree a lot of
like the partial language used with you
is like, you know, we don't really need
that to make a point. I can make a point
of, hey, that video was bad without
insulting you.
I'm kind of like I wish people didn't
just go to that to be like, "Yeah, you
know, I'm going to insult this person
because they made a bad video." But it
ultimately
>> um I will
I will insult that it insult you by
saying it was a bad video. You levied
false rape accusations. I don't think
you can get much worse than that.
>> Comes down to do people want
accountability in the form of like a
sincere apology. Essentially, an apology
that's just like, "I'm sorry I messed
up. Um here's how I messed up. I'm not
going to do it again and you know I'm
sorry but you know I would know how to
structure an apology video for the life
of me because I never had to make one.
Most of the apologies I deliver I
delivered to people personally. So I
suppose it'd be kind of hard to make a
video now because you already have your
first response out and this is like you
know people will always refer back to
that response. So your second one
actually
>> one more video. One more video KP and
you've got this also. Thank you very
much just the girl for the $2 US. Got to
go to bed. Great stream. We'll catch the
fart. Well, thank you very much for
stopping by. Just a girl. Um,
have a good sleep.
>> Has to be a proper like proper banger
for people to even remotely take it
seriously.
>> Yeah. And it's not even supposed to be
it's just supposed to like I I mentioned
it in the in the beginning. It was it's
just a Q&A. So like it's just more I
mean I can show you what I have. No, I I
get what you're saying. It's just that I
think what people were really looking
forward looking for were like
like do you think there was an
expectation that I that I was going to
discredit Emily? Like is that what
people were really looking for do you
think?
>> I mean in parts possibly. I think people
were were like looking for you to be
like well these allegations purported to
me were based on a victim's testimony
and I was trying to you know get that
out to people but while doing so I may
have taken things you know a step too
far or if I've presented things as a
fact when they were in fact not. So, I
think a lot of people are mostly looking
to see you admitting to whether or not
you're you're like understanding of the
fact that these allegations should have
been presented by Emily herself and now
that they they've been presented through
like I'm going to use another person's
platform and I'm going to you know I'm
going to hide who I am. It all feels
very sketchy. So, I think it's not
necessarily like discrediting but rather
looking at like you know this is not a
hard yes or no thing because that's how
most people see it. Most people are
like, "This is not a yes, it happened or
a no, it didn't happen situation, but
rather he said, like he said, she said
situation where you have to come to your
own conclusions." And a lot of people, I
think, looked at your video and weren't
too happy that everything was presented
as if it was proven fact when it kind of
wasn't.
>> Hidden has stun locked KP. Sorry, I'm
not saying too much. It's just uh it's a
lot to take in when it comes to this.
Um, and KP isn't giving me too much to
work with here. I don't know. It feels
like they're sort of like uh hoping to
reach for like um
oh, what's the word?
To grasp what the audience would want or
what would have been the best like, you
know, thing to appease people. again.
Even then, even though I'm saying that,
that might be a bit more of a stretch
than anything else.
>> I I guess, but like um like
I'm trying to think like I I mean, I
haven't seen the main video in a bit,
like so maybe correct me if you've seen
it before, but like were they did I not
use like the word allegations enough or
like how did I how do you how
specifically do you think I misled
people if that was the conclusion? I
mean, I guess it came mostly down to
like the whole presentation. I think you
used like you said allegations, but like
with the tone and everything, especially
with the Courtney bit and everything
where you were like trying to disprove,
well, not you, but Courtney was trying
to disprove the whole implied consent
bit. It felt like even if Emily was
giving him the grace of like there might
have been a misunderstanding on whether
or not I was okay with it, you shut it
down immediately in favor of making the
allegation more severe by saying that
implied consent doesn't exist. Like this
would be I could think of because like
>> true. Keep in mind, right, in uh KP's
original video, they had the whole
segment with Courtney Pete in it
basically being like complied consent
isn't real. Uh also to the added level
of Courtney Pete um you know altering
the victim testimony to remove the
possibility of there being implied
consent within that testimony.
Very interesting how they escalate the
allegations brought forth against Sabre.
And yes, there is a woodpecker attacking
a keyboard in the background
and it's not me.
Emily, if the victim like themselves,
the victim herself wants to give Saber
that kind of credibility and be like,
"Hey, you know, maybe just maybe there
was a misunderstanding, I think people
would have looked kinder upon the
situation if it was framed like that."
Because the way it was originally shown
to the world was this was rape and then
which it was changed very briefly into
actually it might have been a
misunderstanding and then it switched
back to oh it's rape and these are all
allegations and obviously an allegation
of rape can be really really awful for
people's like careers and stuff. So I
guess a lot of people felt like at that
point
>> you were trying like as a whole like
your whole group like um Courtney, you
and even Emily to an extent were trying
to present these allegations as fact
like as if they were objectively true
even though allegations were said
because you were trying to disprove the
little grace that he could have gotten
out of this. And then there's obviously
a lot of people who look at you and
Saber Spark's interactions where people
feel like, "Oh, you're just mad at
Saberspark over something and that's why
you picked this up, which is not the
motivation you should have when doing
this, which like I can't prove or
disprove that and I don't want to." Like
I don't think I that is not my thing to
do, but that I know that that's how some
people see it where they're like, "Okay,
P was mad at Sabers. That means that the
only reason this allegations is even
being platformed is because she doesn't
like him." And that's, you know,
>> No. No. Um, I've had my frustrations
with Saber in the past, but I tried like
my my general frustration was how he was
handling the Chris stuff.
>> Yeah.
>> And how he it was more of he he checked
with Chris, but didn't check with me.
>> He didn't really understand the bigger
picture of it being told within like
like within DA space and with with Will
specifically and stuff like that. And
then when I just said like, "Oh, I tried
to talk. I tried to get a hold of Saber
hear anything back." He's just like he
just like spits at me. I'm just like,
"Dude, like, you know, you didn't seem
like you were interested in talking
about this before." And then for
clarity, I tried to email, just just so
you know, I'm sure you've seen stuff,
but like I tried to email um didn't get
anything back and then I then I got
frustrated at that point cuz he was
here. He is complaining publicly that I
never emailed him directly and when I
tried to, he just ignores it. So um and
you know, there's there's other things
that aren't as damning that
I hear. Um that was a lot of the stuff
that was blocked out. It's just like I
don't think it was like I I didn't have
enough that I felt comfortable
presenting it publicly, but like you
know I'm um I'm friends with uh not
Henry but someone else on staff and like
he like I don't know how true the
stories are but you know they they they
were upsetting from what I could tell
and it just um
you know it's it's it's hard to see
um kind of not not like I guess the
mismanagement that was implied and kind
of the
the stuff that, you know, I had the
second secondhand accounts for. So, but
yeah, that's why I didn't um I didn't go
into that stuff publicly, um
essentially. But, um but but yeah, I
think that's that that makes more sense
though. I can address the Courtney stuff
um being like it wasn't meant to be I I
think what I wanted my intent with that
was try was trying to get like cuz I
have no experience with with sexual
assaults any anything and Courtney
obviously does. Yeah. So it was it was
kind of it perspective that had more
I guess you know I understand how much
it look like
like black and white or I should have
just like if I was going to do that I
should have said like here's perspective
but you know here are the legal
definitions too and make up your own
mind kind of thing.
No, because you intentionally like
dude again for like the hundth time
Courtney was brought onto the video to
go ahead and basically say implying
consent isn't real. Um to basically try
and like shut down any sort of like
chance that like the vict like um it was
basically shutting down the thoughts and
feelings of the victim, right? When it
came to uh the whole saber thing. Also,
since when is Courtney Pete the expert
on rape? Like I can understand being a
victim of something. That is horrible.
Again, I would never sit here and like
discredit the awful [\h__\h] that happened
to you, Courtney. Absolutely [\h__\h]
disgusting, right? No one should ever
have to go with that. I know. Brave
take. I [\h__\h] know, right? But again,
it doesn't make you the expert on the
topic, right? If uh KP was really really
going to do this, right, they should
have, you know, she Yeah, exactly.
Mahi's just stolen the words right out
of my mouth. She couldn't have gone
somewhere with a degree and not Courtney
Pete who isn't certified in anything.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. Um or here here's the other
option. Don't make the video at all and
go to the police as Lio advised you to
do. Fill out the police report. God damn
it. Um, I remember there was a whole
thing that um of um uh Emu Emmy uh not
wanting to do a police report cuz they
were scared of like them becoming known
publicly uh by Sabre. But what the [\h__\h]
are you on about, right? it it's not
gonna if if this like if the video
talking about Saber Spark went to Saber,
he's gonna know exactly who they're
referring to uh when it comes to like
the timing and everything happened about
like where uh everyone was about what
certain where certain events happened,
you know, time and place, that type of
stuff. He could know who it was. Like
aninity is not going to be a thing
that's known. Also, you know, she's a
public figure. It didn't take long for
people to figure it out. I can't even
remember how I was told about it, but it
was basically figured out quite quite
easily. Um I I can't remember because I
remember knowing before it even became
public who um the alleged victim was.
But god, their logic is so flawed every
step of the way.
>> Yeah. Uh, so that's kind of what I'm
leading with this video is just kind of
resolidifi or my my goal, which I can
let you look over stuff, but like
resolidifying that
it was this is like when I said go watch
Emily's video, it was more about trying
to get people to do their own research
and um, here are some things that are
problematic that when discussing these
stories anyway. And you know, at the end
of the day, like believe who you want,
but you know, you got you can't just
say, "Oh, psychology doesn't matter when
talking about this stuff." Or like
Beckett,
you know, saying things are fact when
they're not they're not objectively
fact, you know, which is kind of
misleading. Like I don't know why I told
you, but like he Becket um Becket
confronted me and like I was convinced
at the time that like he was he was
telling the truth and he made me cry
because I was just like, "Oh man, if I
thought Emily he he was convinced that
Emily did this out of militia."
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. and uh that I was just like a
stupid idiot for even trying to believe
her. And then when I got some space
>> like this is what I'm going to
articulate in the video, but like once I
got some space for it, I'm just like
wait a minute like this isn't this isn't
this isn't factually correct. This is
just like someone like and I don't know
anything about Becca, but maybe he got
like a sense a big sense of
responsibility since he was getting
interviews with these people. But I
don't know. I can't it's he's hard to
read. Um like I don't want to overstep
as like someone actively insulting me
and you know calling me slurs and stuff
like that. trying to give grace, but at
the same time, I'm just he seems really
emotionally invested in the like
>> what do you want about
I I don't remember at any point in any
of the calls that Becca had of like
calling him a [\h__\h] uh during those
calls. If you're talking about after the
fact and your actions that you decided
to take after the fact, yeah, sure. But
but I would I wouldn't be surprised if
Becca said that, but at the time it's a
bit of a different story. Um, also this
emotionally invested thing, right? Are
you not emotionally invested, KP?
Right. Given your way of like talking
about your own experience with this,
you're clearly already emotionally
invested. So, what would it mean? What
would be the, you know, what would be
the issue of if Becket was emotionally
invested in this compared to you being
emotionally invested in it? It's
interesting
>> like the fact that Saber is innocent and
I think that
also can be problematic if you're
speaking about these kind of things as
an authority. Does
>> that make sense?
>> Yeah. Like I I get that like Beckett is
he's he's certainly a guy. Like I I got
Yeah. Like I got to know him under like
different pretenses than you because
like I didn't know he existed until he
started talking about me. And that
obviously left like a really negative
impression of me because I was like oh
my god like you're [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
What's wrong with you? And then after a
while I realized that okay he's doing
this because this is what you know he's
basically just laughing at somebody
being dumb on the internet. Fair enough.
I was being dumb on the internet so he
wasn't that wrong in that instant. Was
it like super cool? No. But at least he
was somewhat respons like responsible
about it in my case because he like when
people in his chat started welding out
and making accusations that weren't
true. He did shut them down and he was
like hey you know like this is not what
I said. You guys need to stop. So I I've
known him as somebody who's trying to be
the first he can be before he speaks.
But I wouldn't put it like past him to
have personal biases because let's be
honest, everybody has personal biases
all the time. So like it wouldn't
surprise me if he had like grown bias
over you and now he's just like seeing
you in a really negative light. But at
the same time, I'm also like always want
to foster like hey, you know, you can
always talk to one another even if it's
like non-public, right? Like even if
it's just between you two figure out
what happened there and why he said the
things he did because I couldn't tell
you like that's like the biggest
problem. It's like I I can't really give
you his intentions because I don't know
him that well and I I don't know why he
said what he said. So the only way that
you would probably know why he said what
he said is when like if you were
speaking to him and I understand that
you might not want that because of the
things he said but I also like think
like it would give you some sort of
closure and might write some things that
he thinks about you because he had a
very like similar thing with lazy
bedhead I think where he came in guns of
blazing with very specific assumption of
like who Lazy is and like what they do
and then when they actually spoke to one
another again it was like oh wait a
minute I was wrong. So, like maybe
that's an idea you could pursue where
you could speak to him and be like,
"Hey, you know, you said some really
[\h__\h] up [\h__\h] about me and you made
assumptions that aren't true. Here's
what actually happened." But like that's
obviously up to you. So,
>> right. Well, I guess I don't
>> Hidden has become
uh
Hidden has just now put herself in the
position of meter jar.
I don't know. I find the parallels
between KP and Jark increase uh day by
day.
don't want to like because because my
thing is just like okay like my guy like
you know it it was to the point where if
I didn't explain myself very well and I
just like it said something that was
could be interpreted as like a dismissal
for instance.
>> Yeah.
>> Um it was that was read in bad light.
So, like I can't I feel like, you know,
maybe I'm open to that, but like
regardless, I'm also really frustrated
with the fact that he's presenting this
stuff as fact when it's not. And I'm
like, well, what about trauma
psychology? He's like, I don't care
about that. And I'm just like, then why
are you covering this if you don't care
about or like you don't care about the
kids getting hurt? Like, why? Like, why
are you
>> what are you talking about trauma
psychology? again like this is in the
trauma psychology would only apply
after the case has been proven, right?
Or am I looking at or am I looking at
this too black and white? Um, again, I'm
not like a an expert. Like I'm not going
to claim like I've entirely like
researched stuff when it comes to
trauma.
Um,
but like surely that would only apply
after the accusation had been proven,
right? In terms of like using it as a
point of evidence.
Um,
like what? Sorry, my brain my brain is
getting confuzzled right now. I haven't
heard my guy since ninth grade. Yeah,
buddy.
>> Why are you here? So, I guess I'm just
kind of confused in that way. Like I
don't want to like like I don't want to
embarrass him too much. I don't want to
like be be a
>> trust me you won't
>> b it [\h__\h] back to him. But like I am
really frustrated at this point and I am
frustrated cuz he's basically
>> like it's danger like that that kind of
mentality is dangerous. Like regardless
of who you believe like he's not looking
up it doesn't seem like he's doing any
research as far as like what legal
definitions are. Like he was like a good
example too was the Chris stuff is he
was like that like he was he was adamant
that that was just a joke. And then when
I started,
>> what legal definitions? What are you on
about?
Like he's not a lawyer.
It's not a legal case. That's your
that's your ball court, right? If if
this was something you wanted to pursue
legally, you should have done this years
ago. Again, I can understand not wanting
to do it at the time. Again, I'm not
going to like be like, oh, just because,
oh, it happened a while ago, you
shouldn't be able to talk about it,
right? Um,
but I don't know. It it's not Becket's
responsibility is what I'm trying to say
in my word soup of ramblings. No, you
can see trauma within a scenario. KP is
just dumb and completely unqualified.
Okay, that's fair. Yeah.
Yeah. Know you again. Yeah. You Yeah,
that does make a lot more sense.
Okay.
>> Doing like research about it. I'm just
like, no, this is this could this is
considered a crime.
>> My stuff is lagging. Hold on.
She's a lawyer, psychologist, doctor,
and judge, and a Disney showrunner. Oh
god,
dude. My stuff is breaking. Oh my days.
I think it's cuz the stream's been going
on for so long. Oh, slow to a crawl.
Uhoh.
Give me one sec, guys. Uh, my stuff
might be slowing down to like a soup
right now.
Okay, this this screen isn't lagging too
much. Okay, we're back. We're back, I
think. My apologies. My My laptop isn't
the strongest thing in the world. like
even if Chris lied about it. So that
makes me think that he was convinced by
Saber or someone else who was just
saying it was just a joke and kind of
basing his read on the situation on on
that without doing his own homework
before forming. Does that make sense?
>> Yeah. No, I I definitely see that. But
that's why I'm like, you know, I'm a
little like, okay, maybe a conversation
between you guys would be necessary
because at least that way you can just
voice your frustration to him and be
like, hey, you know, what you did here
sucked as and here's why. and then he
can explain his reasoning because I
think like the guesswork is often what
leads to problem like between people
where it's like you make assumptions of
one another and then because of those
assumptions you say things that you know
might incite [\h__\h] basically and then in
the like if you were to talk to each
other suddenly it's like oh this all
makes sense now like
>> that's why I'm like you know maybe
before you know anything goes live or
you address him publicly it's a good
idea to seek that personal conversation
and just go hey you know this this was
kind of a little messy why did you do
that like you know here's my intention
here's your intentions here's where you
went wrong here's where I went wrong and
then he on part will probably also
address that and actually issue
corrections where necessary cuz like
he's not one to keep up [\h__\h] where he's
lying basically. So if if it was pointed
out to him that he's gotten stuff wrong,
I'm pretty sure he will happily like
make a correction.
>> Yeah. No, I I I I like if this was a
normal person like I see what you mean,
but like as someone who kind of went in
with the best
>> you can make a difference,
you can make it right.
You have
Yeah, you get it. Pensions didn't really
want to talk to him, but you know,
>> all I'm hearing is donate more to me so
I can have a real computer. Dude, I
don't even really want a real computer.
I'm happy with this laptop. It gets the
job done. I don't know. I've got too
much like crap in this room in a sense
of like I like having stuff, if that
makes sense. So, I probably wouldn't
even have enough room to have a
computer.
Again, I understand it would probably be
a lot easier to do stuff, but
yeah,
>> Lio Voucher's character and I'm like,
"Okay, I can explain the video of that
and I can redirect people to like the
actual documentation for the BA game
stuff and I can like, you know, do X, Y,
and Z, but like once I sat down and saw
the coverage and just saw like or the
original coverage and just his his
interpretations, his it it just doesn't
seem like there's a lot of common ground
unless he's willing to admit that he he
also presented some stuff um factually
when it wasn't that. And I don't know if
he's if he has that kind of humility, I
guess, based on how he's acting now. And
like then he got in a fight with Twi on
with Courtney on Twitter and then did
like a four-hour live stream about
Courtney, which you mentioned before. So
like, not that I really care about
Courtney versus Beckett, but it just
doesn't it just doesn't read as someone
who's incredibly stable when they're
getting like when they like when they're
engaging with that kind of stuff anyway
and getting mad and then having to live
stream rant about it, you know?
>> What the [\h__\h] you on about? Connie was
saying that he was a rape apologist.
What the [\h__\h] you on about, dude?
Like
I I don't think that's unreasonable to
get [\h__\h] pissed off about that,
right? That's pretty [\h__\h] reasonable
crash out of if you ask me. Of all
things to get annoyed by, I think that's
pretty [\h__\h] valid. Oh, lovely voice
crack.
>> Yeah, I mean to be fair, I think that
the whole live stream thing came from
the fact that uh Courtney called him a
rapist and a rape defender. So I I'm
going be for real. If somebody said that
to me, yeah, I would probably also
stream about them because like what the
[\h__\h] is wrong with you essentially at
that point? So I I know that that's
probably the like cause of why exactly
he went to stream because he's been and
as are many people or as many people
have been. They were incredibly quiet
about Courtney up until now because a
lot of people see Courtney as like this
this poor victim who can't be criticized
cuz the only reason she's lashing out is
because she had such terrible
experiences. Which sure on one hand you
can give her grace for that and be like
I understand that you know you probably
aren't in the best mental space so
you'll lash out at people. But on the
other hand like going on your public
platform and calling somebody
disagreeing with you a rapist or going
as far as to wish death on them or tell
them to kill themselves which is what
she did to this grander. Oh
>> yeah.
>> Oh, Courtney.
>> Yeah. Like that was that was not cute.
And this is like kind of the stuff that
people have ignored up until this point.
But I think when I went to like towards
like Becket personally, that was when he
was like, "No, I'm going to talk about
Courtney because what the [\h__\h] is all
this?" Cuz like a lot of us are aware of
everything Courtney does. We just don't
talk about it. So I think it's less
about like over the fight and more about
like why would you say this about me in
public, especially if you claim to be
like a CSA advocate like or an SA
advocate in general. Like that's
incredibly [\h__\h] up to do.
>> No, I I I agree. I think Courtney
doesn't really think about
um how she words things and then when
people
>> what the [\h__\h] you want I wouldn't even
give her that how she words things she
knows how she's wording things she does
it intentionally
like it's not a case of wording things
she is flat out calling people rape
apologists flat the [\h__\h] out right and
then try to act all koi and cute by
going like well if you think I'm talking
about you then that tells me more about
you than it does about me haha uh even
then flat out saying I that they hoped
like they wished rape against Mr. Enter.
Like that's pretty cut and dry.
>> Well, I don't I don't remember this this
one specifically, but like with the CSA
victim and the stuff in the comments,
she was m more mad that this the girl
was positioning herself as like like or
she felt like the girl was positioning
herself as like an like the only expert
in in trauma.
>> Yeah.
>> And
>> and I get that, but that wasn't
articulated well. And then then she
didn't, you know, she kind of lashed out
at that person, which I also don't think
was probably the uh the the answer to
that. So, I think if she calmly
explained like, "Hey, this is why I got
upset. This is what it sounded like to
me." Like, but she's she's just not that
not that I make excuses for her. This is
just kind of her personality.
>> Yeah. She she has a habit of like not
being able to say the word sorry. That's
just kind of in her ingrained in her
>> like
>> something that KP and Courtney has in
common.
>> I do think that Becky definitely would
give you a chance when you spoke to him
because ultimately he's also interested
in getting the truth out. if he if he
learns that he did something wrong, then
he would absolutely be willing to
correct that publicly too and stand on
business and be like, "Hey, you know, I
[\h__\h] this up. My apologies." Which,
you know, he's one of the rare
commentary who will do that because most
commentary Bers will be like, "Um,
actually, you're the one who's wrong
because I said so, so screw you." So, I
think, you know, and the the good thing
about this would also be that it would
show some growth on the other end
because it would it would be like, "Oh,
you know, Courtney, this Courtney Mal KP
learned." And KF's like, "I would rather
have a conversation before I make a
public video." And, you know, I would
rather see if I can get all the facts
and, you know, straighten things out
before I go anywhere. So,
>> well, that wouldn't happen.
>> That's kind of why I'm like, "Hey, you
know, maybe maybe you should talk to him
and see like, you know, where
frustrations lie on both sides and then
eventually, you know, make a response
based that way. It's like, hey, you
know, I've spoken to Becket. We like we
aired our [\h__\h] out. we either arrived at
like the conclusion of common ground or
we made the decision to not interact
anymore or anything of the sorts because
what that communicates to the audience
is like oh you know this is less about
bullying or like putting somebody down
publicly and more about actually looking
for a solution. So that's kind of what I
think people are also looking for where
it's like I know a big criticism of your
your Saber Spark, like your response um
when you made it was that you were still
pushing stuff about Sabers Spark and
stuff that Sabers Spark did wrong. And
then you went on to people mistreating
you. And that felt like you were pushing
the blame away from me. Like you were
being like, "Oh, you know, I'm still
right and all these people are wrong and
all these people suck and you shouldn't
be mean to me." Which I'm sure is not
what you wanted it to come off as like,
but that's how people read it because,
you know, people spoke about it. So, you
know,
>> um why can't people stop being mean to
me? Um, no. I mean,
>> oh my god,
dude.
Oh, why can't people stop being mean to
you? I don't know.
I can't think of a reason.
Oh, of course. Like the lib obviously
there's a limit to that, right? Don't go
misconing
when it comes to like the death threats
and stuff like that that she's been
apparently became. That's [\h__\h] right?
No [\h__\h] But dude, people being mean to
you on the internet. I mean,
god, I don't even need to explain it.
No, I I get what you're saying, but I
just don't know
based on how he's acted before and based
on how he's kind of he's he's where he's
putting his priorities. Yeah.
>> Um
>> that's my that's my concern. And like
kind of when I when I post when I sent
them him that DM, it was more just like,
hey, you know, everything you everything
I I ever said to you was kind of
distorted in a negative view. Like, and
I'm kind of disappointed that there was
also not lack of there was lack of
research done here, here, here. Um, and
then he goes and like you know if he I I
think I think I even said like if you
have any more questions you can go to
Lio. Like it wasn't like I was just
cutting him off regardless but he read
that as like I think he read that as
like unhinged or something like that.
And I'm just like, okay, that I can't
like where do I go from that, you know?
Like I I just don't want to walk based
on his like
I think if it was after the first video
and after he was he was like, "Hey, you
know, like he was willing to talk about
the gay game stuff and he was willing to
kind of he was more careful about how
he's reporting this um with the language
he's using, I'd be more open to it. But
like after um after how he's read
everything I've ever told him, you know,
I'm just I don't want to like, you know,
it's the same thing why like I'm I'm
saying I don't really want to engage
with Enter is like Enter came out and
started calling me a liar and started
like patronizing me. I'm just like, man,
I don't even know you. Like these are
all just assumptions based.
>> Why are you [\h__\h] on? Oh, these people
were mean to me cuz they were critical
of me. Oh, I don't want I don't know,
guys. I don't want to interact with
people who are going to actually like
like call me out on my [\h__\h]
Interesting. interesting perspective,
KP,
>> on however you're getting me
information. And um like something I was
really frustrated with is um like in my
first statement where I said like um
I've never done anything like this
before, he was like, "Oh, she's lying
because the Orchard video." And I'm just
like, "No, I mean as far as breaking a
story like this because the majority of
the Ly stuff was already covered in
other places." So he didn't he didn't
ask. He just assumed I was lying and now
I have to be like, "Oh, okay. Pie lied
about this, this, and this." And just
like, "Well, who told you like I lied
about that?" Like what did like he
didn't seem to ask for any
clarification? He just kind of said, "KP
lied." So it's just like I don't want to
give my time for someone that's just
going to mind me for content too at this
point. if that makes sense.
>> I mean, that's fair. Like for me, it's
mostly I'm looking at it from like a a
perspective of like how things are going
to come off to the audience basically
because if you like I think the problem
is that if you were to make that like
Q&A, um it would be important to leave
like interpersonal stuff out of it and
like only address really factual stuff.
So stuff like you know Becket factually
got wrong stuff like Mr. Andre that you
know he got factually wrong rather than
you know oh you know I I dislike this
person for XY reason or this person
dislikes me for XY reasons because this
is like to an audience that always reads
as well you shouldn't believe this
person because like I don't like them
and they're mean or whatever. So I I
think what people have always looked for
when it comes to you um responding to
this whole thing was just like you know
whole transparency on your own flaws
without like really addressing anybody
else's flaws basically like the just
like the straight you know I did this
here's why um this was why it's wrong
I'm sorry because that's like sort of
the structure of a good apology where
it's like here's what I did here's why I
understand it's wrong here's how it's
not going to happen again and you know
I'm sorry. So that's like sort of the
structure people are looking for because
with how much attention is on you at
this point and how much like people are
viewing you in a critical light
everything you're going to put out is
going to be like torn apart for pieces
to look at anything they can use to turn
against you. So that's why I'm mostly
looking at it from the perspective of
like okay what can we solve behind the
scenes over what what really does need
to be public. So that's why I'm like
maybe you should talk to Becket maybe
you should talk to Mr. Enter maybe you
know you can see whatever interpersonal
stuff can be resolved behind the scenes
and then you can make a response where
you're like you know I spoke to Mr. And
here's the consensus we reached where we
talked about everything. I spoke to
Becket. Here's how, you know, we reached
our consensus. And so, you know, all of
>> But but hidden, but girl, like that's
how normal people would act, right?
You're dealing with I love Kim Possible
a lot, right? Famous brony YouTuber,
right?
You're not going to get that from them.
I'm sorry.
>> That is done in good. We're fine. And
you know, I [\h__\h] up this video. I
[\h__\h] up letting Courtney on this
video. I [\h__\h] up, you know, presenting
these allegations in the manner that
they deserved and I'm sorry and you know
it's not going to happen again
essentially.
>> Um,
no. I mean, I I guess like it's just my
my biggest my biggest frustrations with
that specifically is his own like like
the fact that he went in blazing saying
this is a false reporter because
>> Oh, and here they come. The little clout
goblin. Hi, Hidden. Hi, girly pop. How
you doing, buddy?
07's in the chat for Hidden.
Emily shaky at best kind of thing. And I
think I think that's like
I don't know. I guess I just feel like
that's like I understand what you're
saying and I don't mind clarifying that.
That's fine. But I guess like to say
with your full chest that this is false
validation without like with um cir
circumstantial evidences at best is
incredibly um like there's a lot of um
discussion about like other YouTubers
saying like well this was just my
opinion. And I'm just like that's great
that it was just your opinion, but do
you understand the reach that you have?
like for like cartoon specifically like
that was one of the things he said and
I'm just like yeah but like when the
video is down and I haven't had a chance
to respond and the only
>> uh you're like interacting with your
husband
uh
can you like like chop it over his
ankles please? The guy's too tall
please. like [\h__\h] Trey
>> um access people are having about the
information is from your video where
you're saying things that could be that
are opinions that could be um miserable
as fact like that's that's objectively
harmful. So, um, you know, I don't like
the fact like just based on how like I I
guess suffice to say I'm open, but like
I'm not like I would like mutual like
understanding that like, hey, you know,
I did X, Y, and Z wrong, too. Like I
don't want to be this the [\h__\h]
scapegoat when there's I think there's
mutual things that have been going wrong
behind the scenes. Like I don't want to
just go in there to be yelled at because
I believe someone um and it's false
because I say so because I like this
content creator. Does that make sense,
too?
>> Yeah.
What?
Sorry.
>> Mutual things that have been going wrong
behind the scenes. Like I don't want to
just go in there to be yelled at because
I believe someone. Um and it's false
because I say so.
>> I believe someone and it's false because
I said so. But either way, like both
things will be circumstantial, right? If
you're going over like I don't know. KP
is acting like there isn't evidence to
say that this was false accusations,
right? Um,
I I don't understand like the mentality
with this. Like,
dude, I I could I could go up to like I
don't know, someone in the stream be
like, I believe that you are a good
person. And then they turns out they got
like crimes under their belt and then
after learning that I choose to like
still believe they're a good person.
Like what?
I don't know. That was probably a really
bad analogy, but still. Jesus Christ.
>> Because I like this content creator.
Does that make sense too?
>> Yeah. Like I I get that like a good way
to circumvent that is always by um
getting in a mediator. So by having a
neutral party that you know doesn't care
for either of you to put it like I know
this sounds really mean but it's
basically like the easiest way to like
describe a perfect media. It needs to be
somebody that doesn't give a [\h__\h] about
either of you who's just there to keep
the conversation on track and to to make
sure that if things are getting heated
people calm down and reassess before
they start going again. So you know that
would probably be a good idea rather
than having it be just him and you where
things can escalate rather quickly
because obviously um and have like you
know somebody in there who's like okay
we're here to talk about XYZ. You know
here's how we're going to do it. here's
what you know this could mean and so on
and so forth just to make sure that
there's like even ground and to have
somebody step in in case something goes
like you know because like these
conversations are never easy right
they're never going to be easy because
it's always you know emotional to an
extent so having somebody there who can
be like hey you know shut the [\h__\h] up
and take a breather before you keep
going is a good idea in those instances
and it would also make you feel less
like you're putting like you're being
put on the spot where somebody's like
hey you did something wrong
>> this really is chart you sorry I can't
stop thinking of the parallel dude oh
it's uncanny at this point.
>> Oh, my voice. Oh, god.
>> Justify yourself immediately. Right. So,
no. No, I get it. I guess um it's just
based on how Becca has already framed
the story before I even talked to him.
There's already definitely some biases
going on and he already basic like I
think like was the mediator, but I'm I'm
kind of I was I'm kind of frustrated in
hindsight that Lio when like Becca was
like telling me that everything was
false. Becca didn't like why didn't say
like hey now just you know like Emily
might be shaky, but that doesn't
necessarily mean she's lying about this
too. So maybe Lio didn't want to like
interrupt me. Oh, what are you on about,
dude? They're a mediator. It doesn't
mean that like they're going to make
their app. Sorry. What? A mediator is
meant to mediate both sides. They're not
meant to like uh fight your corner. What
are you on about? You're entirely like
misconstruing like what liar's purpose
would be in that call if he was a
mediator, right? He would be mediating
for both of you so they don't claw your
each other's eyes out.
It's ridiculous. It's like,
Lio, you need to hold you need to stand
behind me, okay?
Even though like Lio still clearly had
disagreements with the way that KP went
about this whole thing. Like, are you're
just expecting Lio to stand in front of
you and get torched? What are you
talking about? maybe there's not enough
like information to make a um make that
call. But like
>> and yes, I've tried a mediator and
unless there's a different mediator, it
doesn't seem like it seems like it's
just going to be KP's wrong and um I'm
right and that's like I felt like I was
because like when I watched the um his
video that he did like
>> Well, maybe it's just possible that
you're wrong, KP.
>> I felt like I was trapped essentially
because everything I said was KP is just
stupid. KP is just dumb. KP just doesn't
know any better. He's just so [\h__\h]
dumb. um like there was no nuance that
like he wasn't it didn't seem to me like
he was willing to change anything about
his narrative based on talking to me at
all uh or be open to what I had to say
because he already had made a decision
and you already characterized as someone
who just was too stupid to um he was
just too stupid to to to and and did
stupid things.
>> So um yeah, I guess we're talking
circles but like I get it but it just I
guess like at this point it just seems
like his biases are so clear that I
don't think like I'm gonna get through
to him about what I'm frustrated with. I
think he's just going to be like, you
know, to the point where it's like name
calling now and calling me slurs and
what what the other whatever else he
said, the um trust fund baby. So now I
got people saying, "Oh, you could have
paid your editors because you were a
trust fund baby. You just chose not to."
And I'm just like, "Where are you
getting this stuff, man?" Um,
dude, this is like the I don't know.
What's the scene? It's right. It reminds
me of the ah but you do know me type of
thing, right? It's just like so you
could pay your editors. Yeah, but like
I don't know, dude. I think that's so
bizarre. Like
like KP's not even denying the fact that
they could just pay for editors. Like
what are you on about?
So, I guess like I'm I'm like I'm kind
of open if we want to talk to Lio about
it, but like I guess I'm just I'm just
really frustrated in the fact that like
the main reason why I was supposed to
talk about it, but um in general or the
thing that I was, you know, I wanted to
talk about it was like how like, you
know, there's really problematic stuff
going in on this community and with kids
and stuff like that, he didn't seem like
he and still doesn't give a [\h__\h] because
it's not where his interests lie.
>> So, yeah.
>> What are you on about, dude? Becca's
covered stuff like this for years. For
years. is he's talked about like the ACC
stuff that's been going on. Uh mainline
commentary, all that stuff. Unless
you're specifically referring to the
brony community, he's done that as well.
What are you talking about?
>> No. So like, yeah, go ahead.
>> No, no, I was about to say I get that
like ultimately it's up to you whether
or not you want to do it.
>> I just I I know. I guess like
>> also it's not like Becket's
responsibility to cover a specific like
topic. Like you should be expected to
cover something. Like that's that's
insane. That's an insane expectation. As
I said before,
>> like I'd be open to it if
based on every all my experiences with
Becca up to this point haven't been
borderline slanderous. Um just in how
he's how he's used my basically
essentially to his benefit. And now he's
just like, well KP made a video I didn't
like. I'm going to embarrass her more by
looking with DMs that she gave me to try
to clarify the situation to embarrass
her. And it it doesn't seem like I'm
dealing with like a rational human
being. That's me.
>> Well, how's that slanderous, Dennis? If
it's your own DMs, buddy. How How is it
slander?
Slander would be lying about it if the
if they're showing your DMs, that's
quite transparent, I would like to say.
Makes
>> sense.
>> Yeah. So,
>> no, that's completely fair. Like,
ultimately, I think what this now all
comes down to is the Q&A being received.
Also, if uh KP has an issue with people
leaking DMs,
well,
I got something else lined up that I
just remembered while streaming this
that I have as well. Just a little bit
of an additional like cherry on the
cake, if you will,
>> and people, you know, understanding your
motivations, understanding that this
wasn't made in maliciousness, that, you
know, you're willing to accept that some
of this was, you know, didn't go the way
it was supposed to, where mistakes were
made essentially. And then from then on,
it's kind of just like rebuilding
yourself. Like people are going to hold
it against you regardless of what you
do. Like even if you if you come out
with the most banger like response that
you ever could like the best apology
ever known to YouTube, people are still
going to be like, "Oh, you know what?
Remember when you did this?" Like it's
it's kind of just how it goes. And
eventually what will happen is that you
know after you prove through your
actions that you're you're improving
basically they're going to start moving
on because they're going to be like,
"Well, now all this kind of doesn't
apply anymore because like she's changed
and she's gone better and they're going
to come around." It will take a while.
It took like over a year for me before
things truly started calming down and
things became normal again, but it's
going to happen at some point. It's like
obviously it's going to suck, you know?
>> Yeah. Yeah. I've I've I've unfortunately
been here before, but like um just just
oh me like um so I can basically I have
majority of the Q&A done and I was going
to also end it with like a whole like
like until this goes to record we will
never know here's cases where it went in
the accusers favor here's cases went
where it went in the accused behavior
like you know do your own research and
you know whatever it's just
>> you know when we're doing when we're
doing these kind of stories we can't
pretend trauma responses aren't relevant
when they're how people respond when
they're in traumatic situations like I'm
sorry like you know it's just like oh
facts don't matter guys because I'm I
really like Saber Spark and go forbid he
he's made a mistake, you know, like even
if it just comes down to a mistake, like
>> Yeah. Like that's completely fair.
>> Yeah. Like it's completely fair to point
out that, you know, biases are not a
good way to like shape your your
opinions on somebody. Like just because
you like somebody, it doesn't mean they
can't do heist [\h__\h] essentially. Like,
you know, regardless of whose side
you're on, you should always look at the
facts and the evidence that's out there
and then come to your own conclusions.
So, I think, you know, including that is
completely fine to be like, hey, you
know, you guys need to do your own
research and stop taking other content
creators words for fact because like
they might be biased, too, you know.
>> Right. Right. And like that's what Toby
Sorry. Um that's my dog. Um, yeah, he's
he's a
>> uh Yeah, I am going to go over the uh
the Q&A as well. Hidden. It's going to
be a long stream, I think, at this rate,
but we're going to power through.
Oh god. I would say you could join me if
you want, Hidden, but I know you're busy
with your husband being [\h__\h] gay as
[\h__\h] How dare. I love your background.
Oh yeah, that flashed up on screen.
Yeah, it's a cool background. I really
like it. Um, I was just trying to grab
the other thing to get ready, but yeah.
>> Foodie. Um, yeah, you probably saw him
in the video. I think I think I think
the only good thing
>> like someone someone left a comment or I
think in the server just like, "Well, at
least dog is cute." And I'm just like,
"Oh man, that bad." Um,
>> but yeah, like I guess I can show you
what I have and that's kind of the angle
I'm going to lead with and then uh I'll
tell Lio the same. And if like Becket
calms the [\h__\h] down and he's willing to
admit that maybe like calling you slurs
was not the best move, but he seems very
like just by the fact that he's like,
I'm not going to cover the DA game stuff
or I'm still not going to even look
bother to look into that like then it
doesn't seem like this game point with I
don't know. It just it just drives me
the wrong way that he's just like I'm
going to be mad about this and not like
get attention to other things because
I'm just mad like it just it just seems
like a lack of um due diligence I guess
at the end of the day like
>> Yeah, Khawk, but you're different. Like
I have other things to bully you over.
Okay. So, let me uh What's your email?
I'll send you what I
>> Oh, yeah. Let me let me
>> Yeah, the script's um pretty much done.
It's just more me saying here are legal
things. Here are this is how people
manipulate people. You know, this is how
these laws happen, you know, that kind
of thing. So,
>> yeah.
>> I appreciate your way. Thanks for
helping.
>> Oh, you're you're fine. Like, obviously,
you know, I'm I'm often busy because I
work and then I have Lio Server on my
hands at times and then I have li on my
hands at times. So, you know, I'm always
like everywhere. So, um that's why I
kind of disappeared for a while because
I was like, "Oh god, everything's on
fire. Help." So, you know.
>> Yeah, it is on fire. But yeah, that was
um like one of like my frustration is
one of the cuz I had a really bad um
like why knows this. I think that's why
he sat like he he he helped me with with
um with Becca but like I guess he
probably on hindsight maybe there needed
to be a little bit more firmer
like how do I put this? Like I
understand his motivation was to get
Becca to talk to me so Becca could go a
little less harsh but I guess that also
didn't remove the biases there. And I
think Lia was trying to like peacekeeper
to be like well it's going to be better
if KP's here than it's going to be with
KP not here. So, um I think that was
probably his, um mo, but like, you know,
I'm reasonable. I'll talk to people.
It's just a matter of if people are
going to respect, which maybe maybe in a
week or two like we'll revisit it. But
>> yeah, but like that's completely fine.
Like ultimately I'm not sitting here
like, "Oh my god, you need to make a
decision now or else you know."
>> No. No. I guess I'm just trying to like
trying to just clarify like that, you
know, I'm open to it at some point, but
I guess I just need to feel like I'm
safe and I'm not going to be [\h__\h] on for
like having to use weed as a coping
mechanism for like a very traumatic
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> That was another one I think.
>> Yeah. I get that like ultimately you
know it's also best to just like take a
breather and like look at how you feel
about things and assess yourself because
you know I I said this about Jar like
the reason that half of his replies were
he made them emotionally he just instead
of like calming down and taking a
breather he immediately went to reply to
stuff and that's how you know we have a
lot of
>> not the jar reference I can't escape him
he can't keep getting away with this he
can't keep getting away with this dude
>> [\h__\h] because he just said things to
defend himself rather than just sitting
down and being like oh wait These people
are kind of right, you know. So
>> I I Yeah.
>> Um No, I was just Did I Did I spell that
wrong? Wait. Um but anyway, um I've
always told Liid I I don't pay attention
to those like other people's dramas. So
um he's like, "Where were you when this
happened?" I was like, "I don't know. I
just I don't So I know almost nothing
about things." Um here, I'll give you
commentator um powers that be. Um, yeah.
Sorry to sorry to interrupt, but like
>> wait,
Hayden, did you just like slightly just
basically imply that KP was doing a jar?
If so, I respect it. I respect the
hustle so much.
>> No, you're fine.
>> What What What is that even about, by
the way? Like, is he just I think said
he's just kind of a content creator that
tried to align himself with bigger
content creators so that way if he got
in trouble, it would be like the World
War I where everyone kind of jumps in
and helps him. Was that Is that kind of
the vibe?
>> Well, yeah. Jesus [\h__\h] Christ.
Thank you very much Ace for the
100 you Jesus Christ. Thank you very
much for the $100.
Hi, I'm Ace.
Holy [\h__\h]
dude. What the Thank you so much. I
don't really know what to say.
Dude, 07's in the chat for Ace, please.
Oh my god,
dude. You need to stop. You need to stop
right now.
I'm now just praying I haven't given
Fishy another audio clip. But what the
[\h__\h]
dude? You need you need to stop right
now.
This is [\h__\h] evil, dude. But also at
the same time, thank you very, very
much.
Oh my god.
Oh my god, dude. That's insane.
Sorry, that's just sort of taking me a
back.
Holy [\h__\h] dude.
[\h__\h] hell.
God.
[\h__\h] me. Oh, thank you very much, Ace.
That's very much appreciated. You didn't
have to do that.
The other problem with him is like well
he went like there went out of his way
to align himself with Cine Bear the
known groomer um to defend her and then
when that didn't work out in his favor
he just crashed out essentially like
that's the kindest way I can put it. He
was like what if I defended a groomer
and then he was like well what if I also
just crashed out and made everything
burn and you know everything sucks.
Don't.
So yeah, like that's like when why I'm
like, you know, he was a prime example
of why you shouldn't make a response
when you're emotional cuz the first
thing he did after he had a video leaked
is he uploaded the same video instead of
just saying, "Oh, this was a first draft
and I'm going to make a better draft,
you know, now, so haha, jokes on the
person who leaked this video and then he
just went on any and all live streams.
>> Do we really do we want to what? Do we
want to listen to the jar the jar rant?"
>> Ah, [\h__\h] it. Why not? We've already
watched an hour of this. We're gonna
we're gonna we're going to sit through
to the end, baby. We're going to have a
nice long stream,
>> dumb [\h__\h]
>> I'm kind I'm kind of revitalized now.
Jesus Christ.
>> You know, bad. Cuz you should sit down
with yourself and be like, you know, I
need to make sure I'm doing okay. You
know, I'm taking care of I've taken a
breather. I'm completely ready to talk
about this in, you know, whatever way is
necessary. But Joe was like, "Now what
if I made it worse?
This this
No, I saw that um who was it? Um the guy
that covered Lily the um recently
covered him. Um I forgot. I'm in his
server. Um, he gave me some lines
sometime, but I don't I'm blanking on
his name. But yeah, I was just like,
"Oh, it must be pretty bad if that guy
is covering it." Um, I'll just get the
name of the dude. Um, Jun the King.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
>> I don't know anything about this guy. I
just know he's a robot and dumb it seems
like. So, like that's what I'm afraid.
Like, I don't know if if Liz told you,
but I'm I'm getting ready to pitch a TV
show and I was like I cried back and I
was like, "What if this hurts my TV
show? What if they're like me?" And like
>> TV show,
>> what's it going to be about? Oh, implied
consent isn't real. [\h__\h] That's [\h__\h]
That's [\h__\h] I'm sorry. That is an
evil joke. Evil. Very evil. Very evil. I
disavow myself.
>> Um Um I think I think he said, "Well,
Vizzy Pop's a thing, and whatever you
did is not not going to be as bad as
Vizzy Pop." And I'm like, I guess we got
we have that going for us.
>> At least you're not Vizzy Pop. A win is
a win.
>> A win is a win. I don't even I don't
even know. I don't even know what she's
gotten cancelled for. It just seems
everything essentially like she she made
like Zua feel like artworks. She she has
really shitty representation of
one of her characters is literally just
based on like racial stereotypes. So,
she she has a lot going for her and it
doesn't even include like the fact that
there's an allegation that her pilot was
apparently stolen from somebody else and
that she didn't pay her people properly,
that she got rid of her voice actors for
like more famous voice actors because
that was more important to her than
keeping the team she already had. Dude,
I can't listen to this and not think
that Hidden is just doing slight jabs at
KP without KP even realizing it did.
They're mentioning someone else who
didn't pay people correctly. They're
mentioning how someone did a bad
response. Uh,
who didn't apologize for the stuff that
they did? Oh, I don't know, dude.
I If Hidden's in the chat, I need to
know. Is this just Was this just you
slighting KP throughout? Cuz that really
feels like it. It really does.
>> Stuff like that situation.
>> Yeah. Yeah, that was um I I did see that
where they recast everyone with with
like people from Disney and stuff like
that. No, I I guess like I got I think I
got super mad because I don't watch any
of her content, but I did see clips of
they got um the voice actor Jafar to
play like a role in the other not the
hella boss. They both have age names.
It's confusing. And I'm just like did
you guys just write this character so
you can have Jafar's voice actor say
daddy? And like that was that the whole
motivation for all of this? Because like
if it was then also kind of [\h__\h] you.
>> Yeah. And like a lot of sexy pop stuff
is oh my god I it is so so bad. So like
you know Becca title right at least
you're not busy pop.
>> At least I'm not busy pop. So you know
>> Jesus Christ. Thank you, Acepace for the
$2. I almost crashed while sending this
do the dono. Can you drive in a straight
line, please? I swear to God. Like,
this guy does not know how to drive. I
swear he is a hazard on the road.
He is an absolute hazard on the [\h__\h]
road. Okay,
he he he needs to be stopped.
We ball. We We win. We win in this
household.
>> So yeah, I think Yeah, regardless, I
think Hello. Thanks. Hello, Toby. Um,
yeah, I think Becket might just be a
little bit too emotional and maybe again
upset by things I have to explain
better, which is fine. So maybe, yeah,
like I guess to your point,
>> apparently you need to draw me in you,
Sarah Fay. I I have reminded you now.
There is your reminder.
>> Like in the future, we can watch out for
that, but I don't know if he's going to
be reasonable like right the [\h__\h] now.
>> Then stop texting, Ace.
I I can't even tell you out because
you're a moderator. Stop. Just just just
drive the car,
>> please.
>> So, um
>> yeah, completely completely fine.
>> Yeah.
>> I can I can absolutely look over the
stuff that you gave me and leave you
like with some pointers just to help a
little bit and then, you know, we can
figure this out.
>> Yeah, I I appreciate it. And um you can
let I don't know how much you talk to. I
assume more than I do, but like yeah,
you can let him know we talked and like
you know, if Becket wants to play NAS,
I'm open to it. Like I don't even like
that like I guess put it this way like
Becket like despite everything at least
considering because he's like at the end
of the day he might seem to tweak things
based on feedback he gets like enter I
feel like like there's no point even
based on just how he's um how he's
acting how he's like
>> yeah like I I understand that like you
know ultimately it's probably best for
you to like you know take a breather
take care of yourself first and then
make like decisions once you're ready to
make them cuz like there's no there's no
point in you feeling unsafe or not doing
well and then coming into a cold and
everything blows up and it gets worse,
right? Like
>> obviously like the important part is
taking care of yourself first and
foremost and then I'm going to look over
the stuff that you've given me access to
and see how I can help you and give you
some pointers and leave some comments
and stuff.
>> Well, thanks for not thinking I'm the
scum of the earth or what did I say?
>> Listen, there's worse people on this
earth than somebody who made a shitty
video, you know, like genuinely.
>> That's what I keep on saying to myself.
It just seems like I've I've, you know,
I've given Saber like such a big
headache that, you know, I'm I don't
know. It's just And then the way I
haven't checked the Twitter, but I'm
afraid to check Twitter cuz um I've been
told they're making fun of my appearance
now and stuff, which is great.
>> Yeah. No, I get that. That is literally
what happened to me last year where like
by a quote unquote accident my face was
leaked and then people started like
going at my appearance and um I had
people downright like for example um
doubt the validity of my marriage um and
like the validity of my relationship
because you know why not I guess.
>> Wait, I can time out mods. Wait. Okay,
we are now timing out a space for 10
minutes for uh reckless driving.
>> That's sure. So, I absolutely get what
you're going for and it was like a
horrendous time for me. But once I
realized that, you know, fine, you know,
it happened. I just have to kind of work
on myself now and take a breather and
take care of myself. I kind of just
stayed on the LA for a while and then
came back stronger than ever. So, I
think this this would probably work very
similar to that where it's like, you
know, once your Q&A is out, people are
still going to be [\h__\h] about it cuz
that's just how people are. And then
eventually they'll just forget to see
what happened cuz like commentary is
real.
>> Oh, for sure. But yeah, like it's just I
mean you get like I'm sure you know it
gets you get you're in your head a bit
about like is this how I really am
screaming about everything. So
>> yeah. No, I get that. It's like where
you start like basically being like oh
am I really like such a terrible person?
Like are people right about me? Am I
just an [\h__\h] Do I need to like not
be online ever again cuz I suck ass.
>> Americans can't drive also. Hi Claud.
>> And then at some point you're like well
you know I made a mistake and that's
that happens right? Like we all [\h__\h] up
at some point in life and I just need to
like move forward and you know prove to
people that their assumptions of me are
incorrect. And that's kind of, you know,
how it goes because then people are
eventually just like, well, you know, I
know there's something about K people,
but I don't remember. So, no,
>> I don't remember. It was it was such a
long time ago. No, I mean like I I guess
it's just it's hard because I remember
when the um the the doesn't pay people
thing happened and that followed me
around essentially till the pony fandom
ended and probably still kind of to some
extent, which you know.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I don't I I sorry. Um I
don't know if you if you know or care,
but so part of my child brain was just
like, "Oh no, what if I what if it's
just like that again where I never feel
like like a person anymore?"
>> Yeah. No, I I get that. Like for me that
was because um Becket on a um a live
stream of his brought up a fanfiction
I've wrote and it led people to claim
that I was like anti-Semitic and that
followed me around for a good long
while. Like it was every time I appeared
to somebody was like weren't you the
girl who weren't the external Holocaust
fanfiction. I'm like shut the [\h__\h] ups
under circumstances keep your mouth
shut. Do me you a favor. And now I've
arrived at a point where um I was
recently streaming and somebody brought
it up and I was like you know what we're
just going to address this cuz this is
funny. And so I explained it and I was
like well first of first you know you
can't read and second of all you're
silly. And then everybody on the stream
was like oh yeah know this is stupid.
And we just laughed about it. So you'll
get to that point too. I promise.
Okay, thanks a lot.
>> I told Becket last night my sister's
fiance works with Disney animation
sometimes. He's currently working on
Rick and Morty and he told me the studio
pay attention to people who are public
who are publicly
Oh, interesting. Yeah. Well, I mean, you
kind of reap what you sow unfortunately.
So,
no, I'm not going to I'm not going to
sit here and pray on like um KP's
downfall with whatever they're doing in
terms of like their TV show. If it does
world as well, you know, that's up to
them to decide how that that goes,
right? Um but [\h__\h] hell.
I got you. Jesus Christ. Hidden, you
scared the [\h__\h] out of me.
Oh my god.
>> Yeah.
>> Wait, can you tell me about the
fanfiction now? Now, now I'm kind of
curious because I know I don't know
anything about fan of X-Men, but I know
Magneto is like in the Holocaust, right?
So, that
>> it was basically I wrote a story in
which a girl like my character
>> I'm going to work for XYZ studio and
Disney is very wearing and I don't think
she's going to get a job with Disney.
Lol. interesting if that's uh you know
true. I I'm not like doubting you
Saraphy but obviously I got to go off of
like your word of mouth. Uh god
yen I made you a KP fusion. Where should
I drop it? Uh there should be an art
thread in my um discord server. If you
click the pin comment there'll be a link
to it. Uh but yeah
was um really young a medical prodigy
and the she was in Germany 1945 and so
the Nazis went to her and were like
you're working for us now and she was
like I [\h__\h] hate that and I hate you
guys so I'm going to work against you
from like inside the the um
concentration camp as was customary back
then there's like loads of doctors who
did that and she was caught and she was
horrifically experimented on um and
tortured and eventually escaped and that
is like sort of part of Magneto's
backstory because I had somebody who
shipped Magneto with my character and
that's why I wrote like that part of the
backstory. Now the person I was shipping
with ironically was my Gruner. didn't
help. But um people found a part of that
conviction where very clearly the Nazis
are the bad guys. Like very clearly I
don't know how much clearer I could have
written that. And also it was like 10
years ago when I was like 16 um or
younger even and people like even Becky
on the stream said you know [\h__\h]
Hayden's not a Nazi you guys are dumb.
But his audience because they like if
you add the IQ of his audience together
you'll get like room temperature
basically decided yeah better.
>> Yeah. Decided you know what
>> the Becket audience fire shot barring
shots. To be fair y'all are a bunch of
little goobers to be fair. little little
little little little goobers, you know,
just messing about.
>> I'm just gonna call Hidden Nazi over
this. And he was like, "Bro, okay."
Like, "Thank you. I have to." And the
other part of that was when he reviewed
a video I made on somebody who was
deeply problematic. Um, he made it seem
like to his audience like this was a
huge nothing burger and it was
unnecessarily. And then, ironically, his
mod staff used my video a year later to
kick that person from his Discord and I
was like, "Well, almost like I had a
point, you know,
>> and stuff like that where I'm like,
"Yeah, that
>> Hello.
>> Yeah. And check the M. Check the M.
Check the
>> Oh my god.
>> Check the ends yet. Check.
>> Oh my god.
What's he sent me?
I'm going to play this Ace. I swear to
God the rest of the stream are going to
hear this now. God damn it.
Where is it?
>> Oh, my bump looks like a deer. Duy.
Oh, how about you die? I'll call 100
miles
per hour. Little did you know I filled
up on gas. I will kill your fountain
making ass.
Ace base everybody.
Ace of space.
There you go fishy. Another another
audio clip for you.
And now if that's now we have something
perfect in case anyone wants to make
if anyone wants to make a
animation.
Amazing stuff.
Incredible.
Kids audience will always be kind of
[\h__\h] They're they're always going
to be a little bit like of garbage, but
they also forget really quickly.
Yeah. Know, was it even a fanfiction if
Magneto wasn't in it? Was it just like
>> I mean I guess he was technically
mentioned in parts where you know I it
was sort of like oh you know I've met
this young kid named I think his his
name is Eric like when it isn't Magneto.
I met this young kid called Eric blah
blah blah. So sort of yes but sort of no
but like man it was so silly because it
was blown so out of proportion. It was
just like a work of fiction I wrote when
I was a kid.
Jesus Christ.
Hi.
Wait, was that my Discord [\h__\h] up?
Was that Ace?
Sorry, I got jump scared, dude. What the
[\h__\h]
dude? I got [\h__\h] jump scared by
Discord messing up. Discord DCD me from
my voice call and then rejoin me. So it
played my joining noise. I got jump
scared by my own thing.
God damn it.
Sorry.
Stop essentially.
Oh, that's that's pretty funny. Like
your your fanfiction is technically a
fanfiction, but but not really just
because you technically mentioned
>> Yeah. Like it was it was hilarious to be
honest. And this is what I mean when I'm
like, "Yeah, people are going to run
around with stuff about you for a while
because they just want to say it to say
it, but then eventually they'll forget
and you'll just point a finger and be
like, "Oh my god, you're [\h__\h] stupid.
Like just shut up." Right.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm trying not to get
too um comfy about that in this video,
but I'm just like like now that I've
done the research, I'm just like, "Guys,
this isn't like here here's where it
says it's a crime, like X, Y, and Z
thing, and this is why like DA Game
should have handled differently based on
like UK laws. So what what what what's
going on?" So I don't know. I just I'm
just surprised no one like I'm surprised
Beck had like didn't even look into case
like US cases that were similar to Saber
Emways and been like well this is where
like even just to say like I'm right
because this one case went the way that
you know this is going. So I'm kind of
Yeah. So that's obation I suppose.
>> Yeah. And they're like it's I get that.
It's mostly just like a lot of people I
think you know the thing always has been
with content creators that if they're
big enough their audience would kind of
just take whatever they say as fact and
refuse to do their own diligence and
come to their own opinions which is
something that I we had to curb in cats
layer a lot where it's like when Lias
says something people would just take it
as fact which like no do your own.
You're allowed to have an opinion. You
should try having an opinion. good for
you. So, I guess like part of the reason
why it often feels so overwhelming is
because you don't just have the content
creator that's like currently going
against you. You also have their
audience because they would rather
listen to their favorite content creator
over doing research. So, like it it
feels like a lot and ultimately it will
it will continue to feel like a lot.
Like I'm I'm not going to lie to you and
be like it's magically going to go away
in like two days. You're fine. Um but
eventually it'll calm down because
people will have like basically chew
through you until you've no longer got
any taste.
>> They just Yeah, that's the best way I
can describe it where they'll chew on
like they chew you again and again like
a piece of bubble gum until like oh you
know this tastes like nothing anymore.
going to drop it. And that's like how
how is it probably going to go for you
as well where it's like yeah, we're
going to talk about you again and again
and again and oh wow, now it's boring.
Never mind. We're moving on.
>> Yeah.
But um yeah, I've talked a lot. Um so I
guess do you want to just like go over
what I have and just let me know how
you're feeling or I don't know what your
day is like today. But
>> yeah, like I'm probably I'm going to
probably scaddle um and get through this
on my own time because I have a script
to write as well. Help. Um, so like I'm
probably going to see from this colon
and leave you have comments where like
DM you about it and be like, "Hey,
here's how you can change this up or
that up." And then if there's anything
important, I can reach out to you or you
can reach out to me and we can just
figure it out.
>> Okay, sounds sounds good. And then just
as a as a note since I guess your mod
now, that's probably a good situation
cuz um I made I don't know if you know
how my server works, but like basically
everyone jumps ship except the mini mods
and mini mods just there to host events.
Yeah. And basically said like
congratulations, you guys are all mods
regular mods who are confrontation. So,
the server is just going to be on
lockdown until this video gets up and
then hopefully we we don't get people
that are hopefully by that time things
will cool off a little bit so we don't
just get people trying to argue about
stuff or showing up to argue about [\h__\h]
and that's it. So,
>> yeah.
>> Oh my god,
dude.
Advocate. That's amazing. Oh my god, the
cut. Oh, the little med the little
medallion as well. Hang on, I need to
show this. How do I figure this out? Um,
how do I do this? I know. I know how I
know how to do this. Give me one sec.
Oh, that's amazing. Uh, media
open link.
Oh, there we go. Perfect.
Look at this.
Oh, this is amazing.
Thank you very much, Advocate, for the
art. That's amazing.
Oh god,
dude.
The little fillet medallion as well. I
love it.
I got my boots as well. That's awesome,
dude.
You get my hair. Oh, that's awesome.
Dude, I'm serving, dude.
Serving. Absolute [\h__\h]
This is amazing.
Very epic. Get out of my face, Courtney.
Go away. No, not this video. We're not
doing that yet. Sh. Sh. Shh. Go to
sleep. Go to sleep. Go to sleep. Go to
sleep. We're going to finish this off.
>> All right. So, if this is all, then I'm
probably going to
>> Ace, don't go into my chat making WWE
references.
That's That's not going to You You may
You may have donated $100, but that's
not valid. I hate you driving
recklessly,
buddy. I know what you are.
>> Can I bother my husband?
>> Okay. You You go do that.
>> All right. Enjoy your day. Take care of
yourself. Yeah.
>> Yeah. You too. Thanks.
>> All right. Bye.
>> Nice.
And there we have it.
Oh, what a mess. What a mess. Only
scuffed streams here. Okay.
Only stuff scuffed.
Only scuffed.
Only scuffed streams, sir. Okay.
Hey, Yen. How tall are you? Need to know
for art reasons. I am I'm 6' tall.
Um,
yeah.
Oh god. I think before we go on to this,
I want a little shorter thing that I
think is going to be a little bit more
maybe a bit interesting as well. Um,
let me pull this up. Hold on.
So,
this came into my for you page recently.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm 6' tall.
Lol. No, genuinely like I I I me I
messaged myself not too long ago. Um,
yeah. Yeah, I'm I'm 6 foot like
basically bang on the dot. Um, yeah.
Oh god. So, this video came up on my
like my recommended like like literally
when it came out. Um,
and I have watched this, but I think
it's very interesting to like to show
this given
seeing as uh KP has an absolute issue
with um
Ace, Shut up. No, I'm kidding. Um,
oh, I can speak. I can speak. I I I
think it's interesting to highlight this
given the fact that like KP has an issue
with people like showing like uh DMs and
calls um without like her permission. Um
so I feel like it'll be interesting to
show this. Uh but we're going to get
into it.
Um it's a lot it's a lot shorter, so I
feel like it'd be a nice little like
icebreaker, I guess. Not icebreaker,
wrong wording, but you get my point.
Shush. But anyway, we're gonna get right
into this.
>> Hey, so for those of you who may not
know me, which let's be real is probably
the majority of you, uh, you can call
me. I'm 26. I'm not a content creator,
and I spend most of my time binge
watching Hell's Kitchen and reblogging
fandom art on Tumblr.
But someone you may be aware of is a
little known YouTuber known as I Love
Kim Possible a Lot, or KP for short. and
I want to tell you all about the time
last year that I got in KP's crosshairs.
>> Now, what I went through with her in the
grand scheme of things really wasn't
that big of a deal. I didn't have my
life ruined or anything. I didn't have
to do much to really prove myself.
But I think this is just a good example
of KP's tendency to over dramatize, make
herself the victim in every scenario,
and go after every little perceived
slight.
You may be asking yourself why I'm
waiting until now to talk about all of
this. The primary reason was uh because
until the whole Saber Spark thing
happened
>> with KP's dog [\h__\h] video, um I just
didn't think it was worth rehashing. I
didn't think it was worth really
bringing it up anymore because like it
what was it what was it going to get me?
But uh you know now that KP is a la the
laughingstock of the internet and I am a
massive coward who hates drama and
confrontation.
>> Okay,
>> I decided to do this at a time when I
know that uh virtually nobody's going to
be on her side.
>> Enough yapping. Let's get into it.
>> Lol. At least they're honest about
>> this all started in June of 2024.
Uh, at the time I was a Lily Orchard
fan, and I must stress that I am no
longer a Lily Orchard fan. At this
point, I have not been for over a year.
I think Lily is uh, horrible, and I have
seen the light, so you do not need to
worry about me. But at the time this
happened,
>> I made a Tumblr post that I've since
deleted in June of 2024 where I asked
people for like actual evidence against
Lily. I said I was open to it. And to be
fair, a lot of people came to me in good
faith
and they gave me things that really were
like some [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
But
when you're in Lily's grasp the way that
I was, you are pretty much conditioned
to only accept her version of events and
not think for yourself. So, I was just
handwaving away everything I was given
with the excuses that I had heard Lily
give. Anyway, this is just all for
context. My experience with Lily could
be a whole video on its own, and that's
not the focus. But I'm out of her grasp,
and if she sees this video, um, [\h__\h]
you, Lily.
>> Fast.
Anyway, after I ignored all of this
evidence that I was given, um, I made
another post that I have since come to
regret and have since deleted because it
was really [\h__\h] cringe. It was me
trying to gotcha KP after she made her
video about that sexy Princess Jasmine
game. And of course, me being the little
Lily defender that I was at the time was
like, "Oh, you can play a game about
grooming Princess Jasmine, but imagine
if Lily played this game. She would be
[\h__\h] on by the internet forever. No one
would ever let her get away with that."
Which, yeah, what aboutism? Yeah,
logical fallacy. Yeah, me being
[\h__\h] cringe.
KP did not like this perceived insult to
her intelligence. So,
she DM'd me on Tumblr and initially we
had planned a voice call to go over Lily
Orchard evidence in Discord.
>> Okay. Now, um, originally we I had some
conditions to which I would agree to the
call, namely that nothing be recorded,
nothing get out, just my privacy was
more important to me than anything else.
And KP said she would have like one of
her moderators there to be kind of a
neutral third party. And I was like,
okay, that's fine. Couple days before
we're supposed to do it, I get cold
feet. As I said before, I'm a coward.
I'm very n
>> I see. All right. So, I've looked at the
dock. I'm still uncomfortable doing a VC
and I'm still done talking about
uh Lily, you Britz, anyone else tangent
tang tangentally related publicly. But I
will admit that there is some there is
some telling [\h__\h] in there. This is my
first time seeing most if not all of
these screenshots. This is the kind of
thing I was asking for when I requested
evidence. So, thank you. I will look
into this and others claim other claims
more closely in my own time. But as I
said, I'm done talking about this
publicly. The stress is it's been
causing me is not worth it, especially
as an outsider with no real stake in any
of this.
Wait, with Brett?
Wait, was there is this is this
something different
or could this not was did did Brit make
a statement other than this? Uh, sorry.
When it comes to like the terraci logs
and all that crap, right?
I'm not too familiar with the um the
lily orchard situation stuff. So,
I'm not sure if they I don't I don't
know if the implication here is that
like the Brit logs were uh available
even back then. But again, that's kind
of me speculating. I'm not sure.
Confrontational. I do not like being in
situations like this.
>> Also, Ace, I I don't know why, but I
feel like you're just googling wrestling
catchphrases at this point. I swear to
God.
>> So, I had a
>> Oh, I know what you did. I know how you
know about that Joe Hendry one, cuz I
sent you a meme about it today, you
little [\h__\h] to panic attack over the
prospect of being in a call with her.
And I politely backed out and said, you
know, I'm really, the more I think about
this, I'm not comfortable doing this.
That was apparently the wrong response.
I got accused of wasting her time when
she was doing this out of the goodness
of her heart. Uh, except wasting her.
>> Uh, I'm going to give it you the benefit
of the doubt and not push you. At the
same time, I don't appreciate you
calling me dumb behind the scenes
without doing your research. So, for me
to be kind and help explain this stuff
to get an nope, never mind after I agree
to all your terms is a bit dismissive
and upsetting. I can see these DMs
myself where you say, "Do you think KP
would know the difference between a porn
game or stock value? Please don't insult
someone you don't actually know." Dude,
what the [\h__\h]
Okay. Well, I keep playing
>> time when she was doing this out of the
goodness of her heart. Uh, except this
would massively backfire on her because
one of her intimidation tactics was to
show me a screenshot of me.
>> This you correct? Uh, thought you went
on Tumblr. This was a heat of the moment
thing from where I was probably being
influenced by the people around me. I
apologize for that though. I have to ask
how did you get that hold of that me
saying that? I mean, that's the whole
point that I'm trying to make. That's
not okay. And it's none of your
business. I'd think it's very much my
business
considering it's me saying it. Uh, you
said it publicly. That's the point I'm
trying to make. I'm happy to explain
more via call, but you turn that down.
So, I have nothing really left to say.
If you change your mind and want to talk
or have questions, feel free to reach
out. All right. Neither do I. really was
ready to listen but honestly seeing that
you hope that screenshot have that
screenshot it's very concerning for me
like I said happy to do a call uh yeah I
was warmed up warming up to the idea of
a voice of a voice until I saw that but
uh no thanks voice call uh it didn't
seem like it to me uh oh thank you
Aspace for the five me making we
references so yen that's me stay in chat
while I text and drive you little [\h__\h]
You You little [\h__\h] No. No. You No.
You know, you know what? You know what?
[\h__\h] you. Get the [\h__\h] out.
But thank you for the donation, buddy.
You little [\h__\h] Stop texting and
driving. I swear to Christ.
basically shit-talking her in Lily's
patron server. And this was not the
reaction she wanted because I freaked
the [\h__\h] out and said, "Um, how did you
get this? Where did you get this from?
How how do you have this?" And of
course, she tried to deflect, uh, you
know, it's a public server. Um, it was
not. It cost at least a dollar to get
into Louis Patron server, so it was not
public. Um,
which meant that she most likely had a
mole in there or someone on the inside
that was relaying info back to her. Now,
to me, the reason that this was what
cemented me backing out was because this
was her implicitly telling me that the
stipulations I had regarding a call, she
was not going to adhere.
>> Wait, let's see.
Uh, I'm not mad about it. I just don't
appreciate the insults. I'm still
willing to be civil. Uh, as am I, but
you have you have that you having that
screenshot kind of destroyed any trust I
was willing to put in you. Uh, it's a
screenshot from a public place. This
isn't via DMs or anything. I can tell
what you want to do.
Hello.
Who joined?
>> Sorry. I'm sorry. I'll stop texting and
driving.
>> Oh my god.
This [\h__\h] guy.
Oh my god. This YouTube stop it.
uh a public place that you do not have
access to. So, you have someone on the
inside. That's my concern. I don't know
what you want me to say. I have told you
several times how I'm comfortable
continuing this. I don't want to argue
in circles all day via text. It will
take too long. Uh
and I'm starting to get frustrated at
this point. For what it's worth, those
documents are telling. Absolutely not
denying that in the slightest. However,
I cannot believe you are doing this in
good faith after showing me that
screenshot. So, while I was willing to
call after I'd read the evidence, I
won't be doing that anymore. Sorry, but
if you manage to get your hands on a
screenshot from a server you're on in,
how can I know for sure you won't record
the conversation and use it against me?
Even if you're saying you won't, I'm not
taking that risk.
Uh, and then they reply saying, "The
chats are leaking and I saw that that
and it made me understandably upset. I
can prove that I'll have OBS closed via
the call if that will make you feel
better.
Interesting.
She was most likely not going to respect
my wishes to not be recorded. The fact
that she was willing to pull a tactic
like this on me shattered any trust I
may have been willing to give her. And I
told her that. I told her as much. I
said, "Hey, uh, the fact that you did
this tells me that you are not somebody
I can trust. So, I am absolutely not
getting on a call with you now."
Eventually, we do part ways. We stop
talking. And uh
>> let's see. Uh sorry, but I'd rather not.
Thanks. Uh if I was acting in bad faith,
uh uh I would have shared this publicly.
I haven't and don't plan to. Can you
understand why I would be mad about
this? And they reply saying,
"Absolutely." And then KP goes on to
say, "But I can't force you to do
anything. Uh no, nor should I expect you
to. Uh, if you change your mind or want
to talk to some of the other victims,
feel free to reach out. I don't know
what else there is to say, but all of
the bad things that are being said isn't
cool. And I really think speaking out
about people you don't know to fit in is
a horrible look, but I appreciate the
apology. Please don't do it again. Bro,
what the [\h__\h]
Uh, I can understand where KP is coming
from to a certain extent, but also I can
understand Hat's perspective and why
that could seem like a reason why not to
get into call with them.
Our DM thread, go silent for the next
couple months. Thing is, in those couple
of months, I made the grave mistake of
following one of her former Discord mods
on Twitter. Never interacted with the
posts, never retweeted anything, never
replied, never did anything except
follow.
>> Okay. And this was apparently the most
grave crime against KP that I could have
possibly committed
because on August 22nd, 2024, KP comes
blazing back into my Tumblr DMs. Did I
even look at any of the evidence that
she gave me? Did I listen to a thing she
said?
>> I did not respond. And I just love Did I
listen to a
>> Hi, can you please explain to me why you
are following a slander account that is
slandering and harassing the [\h__\h] out of
me while I was in the hospital? I
understand you don't want to worry about
Lily. Uh, sorry, I misread that. I want
I understand you don't want to wrong.
Okay, I was right. Worry about Lily, but
I already shared proof and even offered
my own time to go into call over it with
you. Did you even read what I sent? What
the [\h__\h] [\h__\h] Who the [\h__\h] are you?
This is just some random [\h__\h] What
are you on about?
>> thing she said. I did not respond and I
just [\h__\h] blocked her on Twitter and
Tumblr because I was like, "All right, I
am not dealing with a rational person
here. I'm just going to do what I can to
protect myself." And once again, that
was evidently the wrong answer because
the next morning I wake up, there is an
entire ass call out post about me,
>> dude.
>> Where KP claims that I am stalking her.
What
>> [\h__\h] What?
So, I went up that morning to a post in
which KP links my Twitter and Tumblr
accounts and also uh has cherrypicked
screenshots of our DM conversations, but
only the parts where I look like the
unreasonable party.
>> Interesting, everyone.
Interesting that KP has no issue with
leaking private messages with people.
Very, very interesting. Even though they
said that if they were being malicious,
they would have done that. Very, very
interesting given the fact that there's
literally no proof that they provided
that Hatau was actually harassing them.
They literally just followed a [\h__\h]
Twitter account. And apparently that
counts as harassment in KP's eyes.
And that makes a whole ass thread,
right, linking to this person's socials.
What do you think was going to happen,
KP?
like this absolute [\h__\h] ass nobody. No
offense to Halo because I'm sure like I
don't think they'll disagree when like
when I say that they're just like a
random person in the grand scheme,
right?
Very very interesting that they would do
this.
So what's the problem with like people
like uh hidden with people like Becket
releasing certain like uh calls and uh
things that you have handed them in
private um to the public when you've
done it yourself KP
very interesting
very very interesting indeed so I
unblocked her just long enough to give
my side of the story and give our full
DM conversations which very clearly show
KP trying to pressure and intimidate me
And I just I don't respond further from
there.
And pretty much all of KP's own allies
said, "Yeah, you [\h__\h] up. You
overreacted. You shouldn't have done
this."
>> Lol.
>> But of course, as we've all seen with
the recent Saber Spark debacle, um KP
has a
>> hidden hidden hidden hidden. I need to
know. I need to know. Were you sly [\h__\h]
talking KP during your call with them?
Cuz I swear to God, the amount of [\h__\h]
that you said that just sounded like
that is comedic. and I love it if it's
true.
>> A tendency to double and triple and
quadruple down. And to this day, I have
still never received a genuine apology
from her. We were both in Sci Scribbles
server together for a significant amount
of time. And during this time, um, I got
like one of those non-apologies, the I'm
sorry, but I think I can't remember
exactly what she said because neither of
us are in that server anymore, but did
>> it was something along the lines of I'm
sorry, but did you consider this from my
perspective? And thankfully a bunch of
the people in there got on her ass about
the non-apology.
>> Uh as in like when you were uh when you
were in your call with KP uh talking to
them, you said so many things that like
felt like sly like sneaky um remarks
against them. Like you compare like you
bring up like J and how like they and
how he handled his like stuff by like
making not like how he didn't actually
take real much accountability for what
he did. Um, and how he did a bad
response, right? Um, how like, oh, there
was a few things. That was an hourong
call, but I don't know. There was a few
things that just sound this sounded like
like a little Yeah, there were loads of
them. Okay, I was I were not losing.
Yeah,
isn't
Okay, I was right. I thought it's going
insane. That's amazing.
Good job.
>> Even before this whole Saber Spark
thing, this was all before that, by the
way. This was all before her whole big
Saber Spark video blew up. So, even
before that, a lot of people were kind
of turning on KP.
The whole Saber Spark DA Games video she
made was just sort of her final nail in
the coffin. Like, I I really don't think
she's coming back for this. if you want
to try to strike this video down uh
because during production of this video,
I learned that she has been trying to
strike videos critical of her. No wonder
you were friends with Play Orchard for
so long.
>> But uh you know, you can try. I listen,
I don't make any money off YouTube and
I'll [\h__\h] reupload it. So like, we
can continue to play this game as long
as you want
>> because as I've said, I'm not a content
creator. I don't really have much of an
online footprint. So if I'm not making
any money off this video, I don't give a
[\h__\h] You're not ruining my livelihood.
And I've said in private before that I
can handle being [\h__\h] talked. I don't
care if someone is talking [\h__\h] about
me, but I draw the line at people lying
about me. I don't care if you come up to
me and say, "Oh, sucks and I hate her."
I'd be like, "Okay, well, uh, whatever."
But spreading lies about me is like the
one thing that I do not tolerate. So,
when this call out post about me was
made, I had to, uh, I had to correct the
record. I was not going to let myself be
lied about and be made out to be the bad
guy in the situation because I do not
think I was. I don't think I was being
apart from the beginning where I made
that Jasmine post to kind of dunk on
her. Apart from that one instance, I
don't think I was being the unreasonable
person at all in any scenario here.
>> But anyway, that's pretty much the
entire story. Um, if you want to read
more, I'll put some of the relevant
stuff in the description. Uh, my Twitter
and Tumblr DMs are both open. So, uh, if
you want to hear more or you want to
talk to me, uh, go ahead. Go ahead and
DM me. I will probably answer because,
um, I'm still willing to talk about
this. I know that KP hasn't quite ruined
my life in the same way that she's been
able to do to others because thankfully
this was a small enough spat that I was
able to recover from it, you know, but
um, I'm still willing to talk about it.
I want to hold her accountable and
hopefully she doesn't try to [\h__\h]
like this on anybody else.
>> Based No, we're not watching that. I
don't know. I feel like it was a very
interesting little video uh that kind of
just shows that KP is a massive [\h__\h]
hypocrite when it comes to like uh the
whole striking other people's content
like hiddens and beckets and I believe
they also struck FGI uh and internet
adjacent. Uh I think it's just very
interesting uh what they view as like oh
oh privacy right uh where they have no
issue with leaking private DMs right
like what's the difference here KP
what's the difference here
very very very interesting stuff chat
very very interesting indeed
okay I think we're on to the last topic
of the night or the last video of the
night and it is
more heeden content.
More heeden content.
Yes.
So, this is the Q&A that was referenced
in Hidden's Call with KP.
Uh, very very interesting stuff. Also,
Hidden, feel free to join if you want
to. Uh, I don't know if you're still
busy with your uh gay husband, you know,
the the sin, the evil man.
Um, but yeah, we're going to get right
into this cuz my laptop is starting to
[\h__\h] perish for streaming for so
long. But we're going to get right into
this.
What's the difference when you threaten
the victim you're advocating because it
started affecting you? Lol.
True.
>> I need the proper gear. Let me just
>> Oh my god.
>> This will do.
>> All right, sit down, you monkeys. Now,
before we start, some ground rules. Any
serious crimes mentioned in this video
is not meant to be funny. But I am going
to poke fun at just the general lack of
education and research presented as fact
because it's just getting a bit
ridiculous at this point. Not essays
funny, but dumb people funny.
>> Yeah. First off, people are under the
impression that I changed my mind about
the Chris Stephanos incident. But here's
what I actually did. Look into the
legality of what Chris's story would
constitute as. Was he breaking any laws?
Was I overreacting? And I found some
stuff. It's stuff that's not in his
favor. I'm going to be a bit of legal
eagle for some of this video. Hold on.
Even if there was What do you mean
you're going to be a bit of legal eagle?
Legal Eagle is a lawyer. You are not.
>> No physical contact with your body.
Ejaculating on someone's belongings.
>> My name is Optimus Prime and I'm about
to bust.
>> I forgot that's your joining noise. Hi,
Hayden.
>> Hi.
>> Hi. How you doing?
>> Oh, I'm good. I'm good. I just I I
realized, you know what? This video is
funny.
Y
>> god.
Oh my brain.
>> This video, this this script is so
Courtney coded for no specific reason
other than that we're accusing people of
SA with virtually no [\h__\h] evidence
for it.
>> You're God, I need to set a screen
share. Ah,
>> hello. Hello, Chad. I am invading the
stream.
This is my stream now.
>> Oh god.
>> Invaded again.
>> I'm I'm going to forgive you really low
quality because my my laptop's
perishing.
>> Oh my god.
>> You get the audio. You just get like uh
high uh low bit sin
>> in in response.
>> But yeah, I don't know. This this video
does have a lot of Courtneyisms, but I
can't prove it.
H interesting interesting stuff.
>> Interesting. Interesting stuff.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh god.
>> I I I I like the silly energy we've
created in the studio tonight. Amazing.
>> We I'm very comfortable with the energy
in the studio tonight.
>> Amazing. Amazing. So, we're going to get
right into this. You You've gone away
from playing Minecraft with your husband
to watch your husband. This is amazing.
>> Yeah. without consent can fall under
several possible criminal categories
depending on the state and circumstances
>> if it happened.
>> In many US states, ejaculating in public
or on someone's property without consent
can be prosects
done for sexual gratification without
consent.
>> Yeah.
>> If this was done as part of a pattern of
behavior to intimidate, humiliate or
violate you, this could be the threshold
of harassment charges.
>> It happened once.
>> Some jurisdictions treat semen on
someone's clothing as a form of property
defacement or contamination. But it
didn't happen.
>> It didn't
think Chris didn't actually do this. He
admitted he was lying. In legal terms,
Chris admitting that he lied about the
incident, regardless if you believe him
or not, doesn't erase the action.
>> But it didn't happen.
>> The law,
>> you admit it didn't happen. You admit it
was a story. You admit it didn't happen.
You You admit it was a false story
several times whenever you recount this
[\h__\h] story. This is like J's swimming
pool incident all over again. I swear to
Christ. Except that one has a bit more
grounds on it.
I was about to say at least Jerry
eventually was like, "Yeah, that did
happen." You know,
>> like what the [\h__\h]
>> God, can imagine KP and in the
interrogation room, they crack within 5
seconds.
>> Never.
>> No, never.
>> Not their honesty afterwards. In fact,
lying can make it legally worse. It can
demonstrate consciousness of guilt,
which matters in legal investigations.
if they lied to investigators or made
false statements in writing.
>> I'm so glad I'm so glad you get to
experience that. I'm so glad you get to
experience that.
>> Oh, thank you very much, Neville, for
the $200.
Don't sleep. I'm nearby. Jesus [\h__\h]
Christ.
>> Holy [\h__\h] [\h__\h] Thank you very much,
Neil. 07's in the chat for Neos. Holy
[\h__\h] I feel mean. I don't have anything
to give people. Like I don't have a
little silly little donut.
>> You should You should You should give
Netherlands mod just for this. Make him
blue.
>> Yeah. You know what? You know what?
That's it. I'll do it.
>> Said for $200, you too can become a mod
on the Yen channel.
>> Oh my god. Don't
>> Don't because someone will. I'm going to
I don't know what it pulls up when it
comes. You do the administration thing.
So, I'm going to do this on my phone,
>> I believe. Wait.
>> Uh, standard moderator. Yes.
>> There you go.
>> There you go. You're now blue.
>> Go have done your duty. Have fun. Do
crime.
>> But thank you. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much, Neville. That is
very, very generous of you.
That is absolutely insane.
Ace can no Ace is no longer the only
person with the sugar daddy allegations.
Holy [\h__\h]
>> Oh my god.
>> It's [\h__\h] crazy. What? What? What I
do? What I do?
>> You're not You're not allowed to speak
on your platform anymore. I dare you.
Next thing you know, I'll be quiet.
>> Okay, I'm going to press play. You take
over.
>> That could open them up to additional
charges such as obstruction, false
reporting. That's legally significant.
It proves he knew it was wrong. And it
also suggests a pattern of concealment.
>> It didn't happen though. So true.
Content creator hidden.
>> That didn't matter in civil cases,
workplace reports, or credibility
disputes. Even now, even if it happened
10 years ago, ejaculating on clothing
while consent, whether he lied about it
or not, is a sexual boundary violation.
Period.
>> Yeah. Period. Would period would be as
well.
>> Not just seem period.
>> Yeah.
>> It's still a crime. Even if Chris did
lie about it, that not only
>> He didn't lie about it. You admit it
didn't happen.
>> It exacerbates the potential charges.
It's not a prank. That's boys being boys
and not something you have to just shrug
off because it was decades ago.
>> It might also come under discovery rule
in civil cases.
>> Now, why would others state this is just
a joke? Well, psychologically for a few
reasons.
>> Like like you.
>> Number one, minimiz
your children.
>> Uh I love my children. They're so
unproatic and normal.
>> I mean, look at them.
>> Look at them. They're in the joke.
>> Yeah, I'm problematic.
>> Fence mechanism. Calling it a joke is a
classic way to shrink the severity of
the behavior that makes people
uncomfortable. It's easier on the psyche
to say it was just a prank than to face
reality that somebody crossed.
>> By the way, is any of this sourced from
somewhere? Is this just like
>> words?
>> I'm pretty sure this this is just chat
GBT. Let me try
let me try and put this into chat GBT
and see what it gives me. like I don't
know the little the little emojis. Yeah.
Making it look like it's
very very interesting.
>> Sexual boundary. It reduces moral
discomfort. If it's a joke, then maybe
it wasn't really that bad. It lets them
avoid re-evaluating their own values.
Just because they admit it's serious,
they might also admit someone they like
or trust did something wrong.
>> Thank god we got a lawyer in the studio.
Uh Kevin Z says, "Discovery is a stage
in a lawsuit, not a rule." Uh I'm going
to take uh your word. I think actually
uh I think you know our lawyer in the
chat. Thank Thank you.
>> We've got a lawyer. Also, I just tried
it and it gives you very similar like
it's the same fun like
>> I I I would I would very much like it.
Do you think you can you like grab a
good chunk of it and like throw it
through like an AI check word checker? I
think that would be very silly.
>> Oh, I wonder. I wonder. Let me see if I
can I certainly have the screenshot
somewhere so I can try.
>> I'm going to apply.
>> It avoids the pain of empathy because to
empathize means to acknowledge that
someone was harmed. This is a form of
cognitive dissonance reduction. People
resolve internal conflict between I like
this person and this person did
something awful by downgrading the awful
thing into a joke.
>> Yeah.
>> Number two, protecting the in-group
power. If someone is a part of the same
social or fandom circle as Chris,
calling it just a joke is also a way to
protect the tribe. If it's serious, you
have to hold someone accountable, and
that threatens the group's image. If it
mean the group's image, it's the brony
fandom. What the [\h__\h] are you on about?
Oh, the amazing image the brony fandom
has as always, right?
>> No, you see, like obviously,
obviously, you don't understand. You
don't understand yet. Becca is the great
manipulator.
the the great the great manipulator who
has manipulated our us all our entire
group.
>> Dude, you understand? Becket like needs
to defend the Brony fandom. He totally
doesn't have a thing called Brony Mus.
>> Nuh-uh.
>> It's just a joke. They can preserve the
community narrative and their own
comfort. This is especially common in
tight-knit online circles. People fear
that acknowledging wrongdoing will hurt
the fandom or give haters ammo, so they
rewrite the story to feel safer. Number
three, humor as a shield against guilt.
Psychologically, humor is one of the
fastest ways to neutralize guilt or
shame, even when it's deeply misplaced.
So, by laughing at it, calling it a
joke, using sarcasm, they're
subconsciously saying, "If I treat this
as unserious, then maybe I don't have to
contribute to the ugliness of it." I'm
so confused cuz I I I I don't know if
I've seen anyone who's covered this like
dismiss the fact like it even if it like
if we're going under the impression that
this didn't happen, it was a joke and
like a [\h__\h] weird thing to say. I
don't think anyone's dismissing the fact
for like the hundth time, but it was a
[\h__\h] up joke to make or thing to say
in general. Like that's still like very
weird and disgusting and creepy to like
say, but also you're escal um
you know, you're making it sound a lot
worse than it actually was, even though
it was still bad, but you're making it
sound worse by saying it actually
happened. It's like, dude, what the
[\h__\h]
>> It's so silly. It's so silly because
like again, like why is this also her
main focus? like this this Q&A was
supposed like from her own recountings,
right? It was supposed to be
>> the better version of her original
response.
>> So why is so much of this Q&A still
focused on [\h__\h] Chris and what
happened between her and Chris? I don't
care. You levied like false rape
allegations against Saber. Sit down. All
you had to do was say sorry. [\h__\h] off.
Maybe it's because it's um something
more like directly tied to her that she
if she like she'd probably get less heat
for it given like she's not like
outstretching out to other people's like
situations. But again, I could be uh
reading a bit too deep into it.
>> It's just silly cuz like she went from
accusing Saber of a sex crime to like
accusing Chris of a sex crime.
>> So like switching targets.
>> We're switching targets. going to start
accusing Becket of sex crime. Christ
>> Becket's next.
>> He's next. He's next.
>> It's a for you or the truth, but their
own discomfort.
>> Number four, cultural conditioning. Boys
will be boys. There's also the bigger
picture. For decades, society has
normalized sexual misconduct when it's
done by men and played for laughs. From
>> I want your thoughts on it. What was
your thoughts on the Hat video, Hidden?
It's interesting stuff, right? Given the
stuff that's been happening with your
content.
>> Yeah, I mean, I I I saw something today
that, you know, fun fun stuff.
>> Yeah, I think I saw the same thing.
>> Yeah, I think you know what I'm talking
about where I'm like, I would love for
her to try because if she wants to give
me a reason to be worse, then I will be
worse. Like I just I think it's very
silly that her response to people like
talking about her or releasing cults
with her is like oh you know I'm going
to privacy strike you cuz like you know
this is bad. It's like yeah bad for your
image.
>> Yeah. Makes it look like an archive as
well is also in I think I don't know. I
feel like the the striking the archive
of the original video is probably even a
worse look.
>> It's like why why do you care so much?
Like people are always going to have a
copy of your video.
>> Yeah.
>> Would you not would you like not rather
have an archive where people can
actually see it over making assumptions?
Like
>> I think I I think I even downloaded it.
I'm not sure. I can't remember. I think
I might have asked someone to download
it. Yeah,
>> we all have it. I framed
>> I think everybody has it. And it's like
you struck it down because you're bitter
over people like reacting to it. Like
first of all, there's so many reacting
streams to this. M
>> it's always going to be out there. So
>> yeah,
>> number one. And number two is like you
look really pathetic copyright striking
people. So
>> yeah, exactly. Cuz I always uh looked
good in the end.
>> Also, thank you very much Metal Man for
the $5 US.
I think all this exposure to KP has made
us all slightly dumber. No, that's just
me. I'm a bimbo apparently according to
the line man. And many
>> for
nothing changed for me. I got dumber.
>> I was like
>> I was like, "Oh, I have a thought, but I
can't see the word." So, I'm just there
just like
pereps.
The idea that ejaculating on someone's
clothes is just gross humor is baked
into pop culture. That conditioning
leads people to default their
minimization instead of asking, "Wait,
was this an actual violation?"
Number five, strategic manipulation.
>> I don't know. I don't know. KP, you
worked with someone who uh thought that
uh what was the what's the example they
used precisely? Uh oh, that was it. Um
people being flashed at a concert like
um like by like um band groupies or
whatever. That was implied consent.
So,
>> no. No, implied consent doesn't exist.
Anybody who says implied consent exists
is a rapist. It's so true.
Castler will remember this. Yeah.
Crazy
>> evil stuff.
>> The cynical one. Some people know
exactly what they're doing. They call it
a joke strategically because they know
it undermines the seriousness of your
argument. It refrains the narrative from
sexual misconduct to overreaction.
Shifting scrutiny away from the
perpetrator and onto the person calling
it out. That's not ignorance. That's
calculated and it's a classic PR tactic
in Crisis Calms. Diminishing the
language so the public follows suit.
>> Him lying about it isn't just a side
note. It shows consciousness of guilt.
Now, to be clear, I should have asked
Chris if I could record the
confrontation with him.
>> And in hindsight,
>> last I remember
>> last I remember the this story was that
he told it co-workers once. like he told
the story to co-workers once which means
if like he recounted this as something
that happened then yes he would be lying
about it because according to him it
didn't happen.
>> So either she's talking about that
>> but like
>> it's the fact that like she's claiming
that it did happen and he was lying
about it being a story.
>> But even like it's this is so [\h__\h]
silly. Like I I'm going to say like if
she wants to remain mad at Chris over
this that's fine. like it it's a [\h__\h]
up story to tell whether or not it
happened,
>> but given the allegations against her, I
can't really imagine that it happened,
but potatoes potatoes. Um,
>> but like, you know, we don't want to
drown an ecosystem or something. But
it's I just it's so silly how focused
she is on this 10 years later.
>> Like 10 years.
If this happened like last year, okay,
maybe I could give her the benefit of
the doubt of like still being super
[\h__\h] angry, but it's been a decade.
>> Girl, move on.
>> Crazy. Also, uh, psychotic. Um, this and
I'm not saying that about I'm not saying
that about KP for once. That's just
someone's username in chat. Uh the video
is um so Hidden was given this Q&A that
KP was going to release uh and it's just
being read out to us uh by uh their
little goobers that they they've they've
hired to work in the mines.
>> Yeah, I love my free labor.
>> Mhm. Mhm. So does Kaye.
>> Ending the issue. I don't think someone
should be defined by something they did
that long ago. But that's the thing.
This just extends to Chris. Since Chris
admitted this to Will Ryan, his boss, at
least once, we can assume if it happened
on DA Games Company time, which also
breaks additional laws. Title 7 of the
Civil Rights Act of 1964 sexual
harassment in the workplace. EEOC regul
1864 law
of the Civil Rights Act. We wait, is
this Sorry, I'm not an American. Is this
the amendment? This is like the like
what?
>> Let me check.
>> Uh, thank you very much, Glitchy Bits,
for the $5 US. As a friend of Chris, it
was a locker room joke about how she
left her clothes everywhere. Uh, the
setup was gross, but it never happened.
IRL. Yeah. God, I'm so sorry that this
is nothing against you, Gochi, but the
the phrase uh locker room joke is kind
of cursed in this community at the
moment.
It's nothing to do with what you've
said. It is correct. You've used it in
the correct context unlike the last
person who used it.
>> Oh god.
>> So it doesn't really say. It just says
that uh it's the the part of the Civil
Rights Act.
>> And apparently she also got the um or
like Sin got it wrong. That depends. um
the uh H or like the the year because
it's from 1964 and not 1864.
>> Yeah,
>> but whatever. This would not be the
first time KP would get a date wrong.
>> No, I do remember in 1864 they were
like, but art thou shall not ejaculate
on vine loins and clothing. Um
>> you shall not drown your ecosystem in
semen. Um
>> also, thank you redheaded YouTuber for
the two US dollars. I was born in 1864.
So, so true. So true. You're so right.
>> Its act of 1964 prohibits sexual
harassment in the workplace. EEOC
regulations define sexual harassment
broadly, including non-cont sexual
behavior like masturbating near someone,
ejaculating on their belongings, or
creating a sexually hostile environment.
The OSHA or
>> I don't like the sexually hostile
environment we've created in the
workplace today.
>> The studio today. That's awful. That's
awful thing to joke about. God, not
OSHA.
>> Safety and health act. Nerd. Requires
employers to provide a safe harassment
free workplace. Even if he did it in
secret, the company is legally
responsible if he was acting in a work
capacity. Should have known and failed
to act. They did nothing after learning
about it later.
>> The US Equal Employment Opportunity
Commission defines sexual harassment as
unwelcome. the US. Wait, also isn't
there a thing where like this company is
uh in the UK or UK based?
>> I Yeah, last I remember it's in the UK.
So like
>> the little law scholars in the chat, if
I remember correctly, the whole thing
with this like situation was that it was
a UK owned company like based in the UK.
Also, thank you again, Metalman, for the
two US dollars. 1864 was in the middle
of the US Civil War. Yeah. No coming in
the trenches, guys. Please
>> no coming in the trenches. focus on war,
guys.
>> Tisk tisk. But no, either way, it's it's
it's still insane. Still insane. Uh,
also, he's never said anything about
doing that into or onto her clothes. He
mentioned in the madeup story that he
fell off to John face first into her
clothes.
That I do remember. Uh, I don't know if
there was like different recountings of
the story, but I do remember that part
being mentioned. Yeah, I believe you are
right. Gerts, what a crazy username.
>> So much sexual requests for sexual
favors and other verbal or physical
conduct of sexual nature that affects an
individual's employment or creates an
intimidating, hostile, or offensive work
environment. The problem wasn't just
Chris did this. It's the bigger problem
that DA Games didn't take accountability
for letting this incident go
unchallenged within the company on top
of
>> because it didn't happen ones.
>> I'm I hate this so much. She's like,
"Oh, they didn't take they didn't take
any sort of uh action over this." Last I
remember, from what I remember, he was
not working with them at that point.
>> So, she she went to them after they
hired her, like they hired him after it
had already happened and demanded
that they fire him. And they were like,
"Yeah, we're going to have an
investigation on this. We're going to
get back to you." which by the way she
wouldn't like she wouldn't be
>> like she wouldn't they wouldn't be
obligated to tell her about this at all
>> because what for like she's just a
stranger. So they went back to her and
they were like, "Well, first of all,
this didn't happen when he was hired
with us, so why would we give a shit?"
And also, it happened like years ago, so
calm down.
>> And then she got mad because they didn't
fire him. So it's like, "Shut shut up
KP. Nobody cares."
>> Also, as Abyssal Gray just said, Yeah,
DA Games is a UK based group uh which
should investigate and found nothing to
warrant Chris being fired.
Interesting.
Uh hopefully man. No, no, no. You're
you're fine, glitchy bits. That's fine.
Um you're you're totally fine. We we
we're a bit silly here sometimes. A
little a little bit of tom foolery. A
bit of goofiness. And also I've been
streaming for 3 hours and it's
Jesus [\h__\h] Christ. It's 5:00 a.m. for
me and it's 6 a.m. for Hidden.
>> Just as a treat. The things we do. seem
to have assumed that because these
examples are old, this stuff still isn't
going on.
>> DA Games isn't actively trying to hide
this currently in the year of our Lord
2025. Did you guys watch the videos I
linked?
>> This was again exacerbated.
>> You removed them and you removed the
video.
>> Wow, KP. It's almost as if you complain
about people archiving your [\h__\h] and
then when you're telling people to look
at your [\h__\h] you get annoyed when
people look at your [\h__\h] So,
What the [\h__\h]
>> Women, I swear.
>> I swear.
>> Oh god.
>> In the original email exchange I had
with DA Games where, and let me remind
you, it wasn't just the nature of what
Chris said, it's how the company
reacted, didn't explain why they didn't
bring this up to my attention earlier,
and refused to take accountability
unless an NDA was required. the
entitlement.
The [\h__\h] entitlement of like, oh, why
did this company not come to me and talk
to me about Chris? Like, girl, you
weren't part of the company for one.
That's number one. Like, first of all,
this didn't happen between two
employees. It happened between a
stranger and a now employee, but it
happened before this person was
employed, so it doesn't matter. But
also, also like the entitlement of like,
oh, I wasn't told. M
>> why would you be told?
>> You don't matter.
>> This is VKP actually. So, you know, know
your place.
>> Know your place. Get back in the
kitchen.
>> Ben, bro, don't type like that. You like
that? Like, you don't say that on a
daily basis. I know what you are.
>> Get in the kitchen. is not extended to
just a few bad memes, but possessing
illegal materials to minors on top of
proven not subjective grooming going on
in the server, including having his
minor girlfriend living with him at one
point. And
>> wait, what is what is minor? Huh?
>> Yeah. Like she adds a completely new
allegation in here where she's like,
"Oh, apparently this person dated a
minor
>> grooming." And
>> it's just so silly. Where's the proof?
>> Where's anything?
>> I mean,
>> at all. Like how much time did you get
given with like this Q&A? Like did you
ever ask any questions to them about it?
I'm just curious in general.
>> Not really. Like we had the call and by
the end of the call I was given access
to the Q&A and then I told her, "Hey,
you know, I'm probably going to hang out
with my husband. I'm going to sleep. I
have work." And then the next day she
was already pestering me about how long
I was going to take to like um look
through it. And I told her, "Well, I'm
probably going to look through it on
Saturday and just, you know, leave you
little notes." And then I was told,
"Hey, first of all, this girl lied to
you entirely." And second of all, none
of what she says is true. And then I'm
like, "Well, you know, obviously I
didn't help." So I never really read
through it. I went over it and was like,
"Wow, I'm just going to have to delete
this entire thing and have her write it
a new cuz it's garbage." But like that
was about it. So
>> right
interesting. I don't know it. Oh god.
Wait, wasn't so about Chris wasn't
considered mine in the UK when this
>> Wait, how old were it glitchy bits? You
You seem to know about this.
Uh like I I don't I again like also I I
have no way I'm not too familiar with
the whole DA game stuff or like again
like uh forgive me if I'm a bit
skeptical about like credibility when it
comes to that uh about who you are. So
I'm having to take what you say with a
grain of salt in that regard. Um, but
how old would Chloe have been when they
started dating? If what you're saying,
I'm guessing they would have been below
18 from what you're saying.
So,
wait, wasn't considered a minor in the
UK.
>> H. Okay.
>> Don't Don't tell me this girl was 18.
And the narrative here is that she
wasn't 21, therefore she was a minor.
Well, the reason why I what they what
what's just been said there is because
obviously age of consent laws in the UK.
>> I mean, yeah, but like the considered a
minor versus consent are like two
separate things. So, technically like at
16, I think, is the age of consent in
the UK.
>> Yeah, but it would still be classed as
being a minor.
>> Exactly. So, I'm like, well, if they
aren't considered a minor in the UK,
they would be 18, right?
>> No. Well, you'd still be you'd still be
a like I I I don't know. I don't know. I
always assumed that like if you're like
a minor uh you'd be um you know below 18
across the world but it's just a
difference in age consent but I guess I
may have mis like misconuting it.
Apparently Chloe was 16 and Will was in
his early 20s.
>> That's a little bit of an icky age gap.
>> Yeah,
>> that's icky.
But also this is not Chris. Why is she
talking about it like it was Chris?
Is this about Is this about DA Games
himself or is
>> Yeah, like they're talking about Will.
Will is not Chris.
>> Will. Oh, Will. Sorry. Will and someone
in the company. Okay.
>> Yeah. So, like she just talked about it
as if it was Chris who was dating him.
>> I'm going to go back real quick. Sorry.
Maybe just make sure. No, it was Will.
>> It's how the company reacted. Didn't
explain why they didn't bring this up to
my attention earlier and refused to take
accountability unless an NDA was
required. Will's problematic behavior is
not extended to just a few bad memes,
but possessing illegal materials to
minors on top of proven not subjective
grooming going on in the server,
including
>> Yeah, I don't know how I feel about
that. I But personally, like I
understand the whole like age consent
thing in the UK, right? Even now, even
now, I don't [\h__\h] agree with it. It's
just [\h__\h] g I That's gross.
>> 16 and early 20s is a little is a little
icky. That's
it's a bit of a harsh gap, not going to
lie. Like uh even in the UK, right, if
you do that with like a 16-year-old,
you're considered an aunt. Like even if
even if like the age of consent laws and
all that all that crap, right? Like we
still look at people in like countries.
So they were 17.
>> Were they 17? They were
Oh, okay. Okay. I was going to say, uh
yeah, Chloe was 17 when they and Wills
were dating. Okay, that changes again.
I'm kind of having to work off with what
someone's saying in the chat as I'm
learning about it. Okay.
She was she was 17.
>> That's still like a little bit of a
harsh gap. I'm not going to lie. Like
it's not the worst gap I've ever seen.
Like
>> it it could be worse. And it all it also
kind of depends on like did she just
turn 17? So is she by technicality
still, you know, or was she like end of
17 and then Yeah. But still a little bit
icky. So, I would actually see KP's
point of like this is weird
>> and why why are we like not frowning
upon this, but what kills me is that
she's just been talking about like
[\h__\h] Chris the entire time and then
in the middle of the sentence she
switches over to Will. It's like girl
stay on topic.
>> Christ. Also, thank you Ace for the $2.
Why did I come back to age of consent
lau? That's your favorite topic buddy.
>> Yes. Wouldn't you know all about that?
>> Yeah.
>> Aren't you like 12,
>> dude?
>> [\h__\h] up.
>> I love I think I'm going to leave that
topic until I do a little bit more
research before I don't think of that.
[\h__\h] that.
Oh god. Awful stuff. Awful. Awful stuff.
>> Having his minor girlfriend living with
him at one point. And yes, all this is
illegal. Guys, Will is breaking multiple
laws and endangering minors. And I guess
we're just going to ignore it. I wanted
a conversation about accountability and
honoring that this is happening on
company time is not okay and to prove
that reform is actually happening. But
then I learned that this has been a big
problem in the company for a long time.
I wanted to cover that. I do feel bad
that Will's behavior and approach isn't
the direct result of anyone else's
actions, but they are excusing them by
continued association and alleged
enablement. the UK workplace law
perspective. Now, let's talk about how
UK law views something like Chris's act.
Spoiler, the joke framing holds no
weight legally. Under UK law,
ejaculating on someone,
>> especially in the workplace, can breach
multiple serious legal standards.
>> Number one, the Equality Act of 2010,
sexual harassment. The Equality Act
defined sexual harassment as unwanted
conduct of a sexual nature which has the
purpose or effect of violating someone's
dignity or creating an intimidating,
hostile, degrading, humiliating, or
offensive environment. Ejaculating on
someone's clothes, even without physical
conduct, squarely qualifies. The intent
doesn't matter. The effect on the victim
does. joking or claiming it was a prank
is relevant under the law.
>> But but it's You'd have to prove it.
>> You have to prove it, buddy.
>> But it's But it didn't happen. But
>> it never happened. Exactly.
>> This is like the number one point where
it's like it's so pointless to like talk
about all this because she's treating it
as if it happened, but we have no proof
that it did other than, oh, he made a
joke about this. Mhm. Like girl, women
derogatory.
>> No boys have a legal duty to prevent and
address the behavior to act can make
them so reliable.
Yeah, but like
again it didn't [\h__\h] happen. I don't
know why I'm trying to like think of
like like of anything else. [\h__\h] me.
Employers have a legal duty to prevent
and address this behavior. Failure to
act can make them vicariously liable.
Number two, Health and Safety at Work
Act 1974.
Employers must provide a workspace safe
from risks and health. Sexual
harassment, not even physical, creates a
physiologically unsafe workplace.
Failing to prevent or investigate it,
can breach this act. Number three,
Criminal Law Sexual Offense Act 2003.
While prosecution would depend on
circumstances, acts involving sexual
activity without consent even directed
at property can be fall under sections
covering indecent exposure, outraging
public decency, sexual assault if
contact occurred,
harassment or stalking if part of a
pattern. There have been UK cases where
ejaculating on properly or laying bodily
fluids was prosecuted as sexual
misconduct or harassment
>> if it happened. Number four,
>> employment tribunal precedence. UK
employment tribunals have repeatedly
ruled that non-cont sexual acts like
exposing oneself, setting explicit
materials, or masturbating near someone
constitute sexual harassment. If they
create a hostile environment, this on
company time or property dramatically
increases liability.
>> I hate this so much.
>> I hear your boss.
It's it's this whole thing is really
silly because like she's citing
workplace flaws for a workplace she did
not work at.
>> Like sure at most I could give her yeah
the joke was really disgusting and if
people want to say it was sexual
harassment fine so be it. But
>> she she's citing workplace laws as if
she was like a a colleague. She wasn't
though.
>> Yeah.
>> And like it happened long before Chris
was at DA Games as far as I remember. So
her pulling this entire [\h__\h] where it's
like, oh, you know, according to
workplace laws, according to this law,
according to that law, none of this
applies because you weren't colleagues,
so it doesn't matter. At most, you can
give him that he was sexually harassing
you. But I would like to argue that
based on like one incident of a shitty
joke, sexual harassment is kind of
harsh. Like I would I would understand
why people see it that way, but at the
same time, you know, like
>> Yeah, exactly. Also, I I still don't
understand why we had that bit before we
got into the UK laws of the US laws.
Like, what was the point of bringing up
the amendment when it's not even like I
I I'm not like a a law person, but
wouldn't like the the court like the the
proceedings happen in under a UK court?
>> Yeah, probably. Because like it happened
like she's arguing it happened there
when it didn't. Like it happened on on
US ground if I remember correctly.
>> It did happen on US ground.
>> Yeah. And she's like, but she's trying
to site the UK laws because DA Games is
UK and so she's being dumb.
>> So in the case of suing the company for
workplace thing, like the workplace
thing, but that would mean it would be
in the workplace unless the laws extend
to like with the employees.
>> I don't know how the law works. Why am I
trying to say this? Like I I know how
the law works. I don't know. I don't
know.
>> This is so silly. Like the short of it
is like she shouldn't bring law into
this and most she could say, "Hey, I was
really uncomfortable with this joke and
he shouldn't have made it. Why the [\h__\h]
did he do it? I'm mad."
>> Yeah.
>> So, and then boom, boom, you're done.
Who cares? It happened 10 years ago. If
you're still upset over it, there you
go. But like, don't try to make it into
a sex crime. That's weird.
>> Yeah. We're not trying to put on the
sprocket law our laws at the moment. So,
>> Oh,
>> you lied about the statement. Oh,
>> that part wasn't
>> What? What did I do? What did I say?
What did I say that was wrong?
>> No. No fun. No fun for us. We don't get
to lawyer this. God damn. I come into
the ACC and I don't get to report Lara
as a lawyer.
>> Okay, fine. We can have a little bit of
lawyer up. Okay.
>> Thank you. Thank you.
>> Only to realize 5 minutes into
discussion we go, "Wait, we're not
lawyers. What are we doing?"
>> Assumption. In my original statement
about this incident, I said I've never
made a video like this, which enter a
lie. Even though I never had a chance to
clarify, nor did he reach out to
clarify, he kind of just ran with it.
What I was referring to is that I had
never broken a case like the DA games or
the Saber allegations. The video I did
covering Lily Orchard was done with
statements with victims that were
already publicly logged. The only new
information was my own experiences. This
was totally different. But the voice
actor incident would mean new new
information was stuff you personally
experienced. What do you mean? What what
about the the MA? That's new. I don't
think that was publicly known until now.
>> Also, like I'm I'm pretty sure I'm
pretty sure that like one of the big
reasons why nobody was reaching out to
her anymore is because the last time Mr.
Enter and Lazy Bed had tried reaching
out to her, she tried to force Lio into
the call despite both of them asking her
not to do that. So like
>> she's really dead set on liar defending
uh of liar defending.
>> Yeah. Like that's
>> it's really jarcoded.
>> It's really jarcoded. She even admitted
to it in her conversation with you. It
was just like she was basically like,
"Wow, Lia was there to be a mediator."
And I was really surprised when he
didn't like jump in to defend me is
basically what she was saying. It's
like, "Girl, she's
meant to be a mediator. He's not meant
to side with either one of you. What do
you just want him to like sweep?" What?
Like, huh? That's not how that works.
>> It's It's Becket, not you and Becket.
You and Lia talking to Becket. This is
so silly. It is so dumb. And the whole
thing about like her demanding that
people protect her cuz like it was
brought up to me that the only reason
she came to me is because I didn't know
who she was and so I was likely to
possibly defend her and she could always
pull back and be like, "Oh, you know, I
had help from this person with this."
And like she's doing this thing as liar
too where she was like, "Well, I showed
the video to Liar." Which first of all
isn't true, but also second of all, like
Liar's not your [\h__\h] shield. You made
the choice to make this video and now
you're dealing with the backlash. The
fact that you're trying to get him to
like lawyer LAR for you is insane.
>> Sit down.
>> You're an adult.
>> To use KP's own logic, I think it's kind
of a power imbalance between her and
Lio. She's like the bigger, you know,
kind of like guy.
>> Also, nevertheless, you are stupid, but
that's unrelated. No, I'm joking. Uh,
this isn't a this isn't a recital
recital of KP's delayed video. Uh so
what this is is a Q&A that KP was going
to release like now like after
everything that's happened. Uh but uh
hidden here managed to yink it was like
no
this is this is getting the this is
seeing the light of day.
>> I was I was literally like this is mine.
Uh this is mine now. I will release this
now.
>> Also is it really privacy infringement
if it was uh seemingly all made by AI? H
>> yeah. No, it's it's silly because she
only privacy struck my call with her,
but she left the Q&A alone and I was
like, "Huh,
>> interesting.
>> Strange her."
>> Uh what's astonishing is that she try
she's trying to do this when the statute
of limitations and what she's claiming
would have been past the US's statute of
limitations. Let me look it up real
quick. Thank you, chat, for lawyering
me. Thank you.
>> I love this.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you. free lawyer service.
>> Yeah, I know. It's amazing, right? I I
still find it funny when she starts this
video or like, you know, this uh uh
Stroger's video of uh basically being
I'm going to legal eagle. It's like a
legal eagle is an actual lawyer. You do
understand this, right? You're not so
stupid. So stupid. Hidden is educating
the masses. Yeah. Whether they're
willing to or not be educated, she's
going to do it. You know, also like Mr.
Crunch does say, does KP not know that
you always look into stuff with other
parties? So I she wasn't even aware of
who I was. She She thought I was Laria's
head mod. She she was. And also she she
thought I was Peaches apparently, but um
yeah. So, um this is like I'm not going
to divulge the whole thing, but
apparently she recounted a thing that
happened that uh Lio actually said about
peaches and not about me, which oh, but
also um and then you know Lio, she's
like that's peaches not hidden. And I
was like,
man, we live in a society.
>> So true. Oh my god, that's evil.
>> So yeah, so she has no clue who I am.
Um, she had no clue what I work like who
I work with or what I do or how I
operate. She literally just like what
happened and I I don't think people know
this but what happened is she was
talking to somebody else um Junkfish
mainly and Junkfish was like hey um if
you want to talk to somebody who has
like a level head on their shoulders and
might be able to help you, you should
talk to Hidden. And then we never
managed to like connect for a call
because I was busy and I have a job
unlike her. And so like uh it never
worked out. And then in September, I
reached out again and we finally managed
to like connect for a call. And that's
when the call that I released happened.
So
>> yeah, evil stuff.
>> Absolutely evil stuff. Just giggling
maliciously. Yeah, you could talk to me.
>> Yeah. Haha.
>> You can talk to me. Twear.
>> Yeah. Starts crocheting stuff in the
corner innocently,
>> you know, just like reading an old book,
you know. So unproatic, so innocent.
>> Yeah, so true.
>> No one brought up this directly in the
comments, but some commented on the fact
that I asked people to work on a
volunteer basis. I understand that
volunteering is a very personal choice
for many, but something that was left
out in the exchange he showed is that he
offered to do this in the past. The
spicy comment was just a critique on it
being nontraditional to my usual
content, which is why something like
this posted without context or consent
should have happened. This same person
then complained the use of the same
image in Saber's video was a violent.
>> I mean, we've already proven that KP has
no issue with sending sharing stuff
without consent. So,
>> of their consent, which I found both
ironic and hypocritical,
>> but Cartoon, well, I first would like to
thank this guy for being fair compared
to the rest of you [\h__\h] hoggy. And
>> we're switching it up now. We like
cartoon now.
>> We're switching it up. Also,
>> we're switching it out.
>> Very interesting model here.
>> Yeah. Thank you so much. You didn't cut
out the white background underneath the
arms for
>> I didn't do that actually. That was so
sin alone. I just gave him the sprites
and I was like, "Here you go. This is
like this is your models. This is what
you get to work with for editing.
Enjoy."
>> Oh my god.
Also, if guys, if in case you didn't
know, this is my amazing drawing, by the
way. This is my contribution to this
video. And yes, I if you couldn't tell,
I mean, it's kind of hard to tell,
right? I mean, look at it. It's amazing.
I made this in MS Paint with my mouse.
>> It looks so good.
>> It's so good. I love it. I love it.
>> I also like that I can actually draw.
It's just I haven't I haven't been asked
to do it in such a long time.
>> So, you said Emma's pain time.
>> Yeah. I also think it has its own charm.
>> It does. I need to fix this. My I have
like the stream open like a different
monitor so I can like make sure the chat
and everything's working.
Um, but my
>> keep an eye on Chad. I'm helping.
>> So true.
>> I'm helping.
>> Please, Lord.
>> Yes.
>> Now, although you and anyone can say,
"This is my opinion." The argument
doesn't work when you are literally one
of the first sources to report on the
issue before I have the chance to figure
out how to respond. This isn't an
opinion. You're peeing into the void.
This is an opinion that is act
>> I like I I know he said peering,
but this is more funny. You're peeing.
>> This is way funnier.
>> You're peeing into the void.
>> Sin, please don't. Please stop.
>> Peeing into the void is okay. Pecoded.
Oh, who said that?
>> Actively shaping how people are
responding to the story and listening to
an opinion about a video that was taken
down. If you would have waited on me
before posting, the main part of your
video could have been the DA Games
highlights, which was originally the
goal. I don't know. I don't think you
thought about it.
>> DA Games, DA Games, DA Games. You should
make a video on DA Games. I don't know.
Maybe if you, like I keep saying, had
the KP, if KP had the uh DA Games video
and the Saber Spark videos two separate
things, maybe it wouldn't have been so
much of a scorched topic. H
>> perhaps, perhaps.
>> But coverage like that also has
consequences of harassment if not
addressed carefully. That's why I took
my own video down. Those factors can be
dressed irresponsible if you are leading
with interpretations and facts that
aren't backed up. Plus, it seems like
your goal was clear from the start. For
example, here's a clip from the original
video that cartoon she interpreted as an
ego reflection. Maybe I said that
because John Stewart and I are also
Jewish and I relate to this
representation.
>> There it is again. This had an
influence. You are responsible for how
the public reacts just like everyone
else. But what about Brony Fand? For
those of you who don't remember, Brony
Fand is a user who originally broke the
original allegation on under the
YouTuber named Black Griffin. You are
welcome to research that case if you are
new and come up with your own
conclusions. What a fun case.
>> But what I didn't know at the time is
that is also someone who has a very
problematic views. I don't know why
you're hunting predators if you talk
about Lollicon like this. Also, for the
record, it was Brony Fandone's idea to
connect me to Amy with the intention of
putting said testimony in the video,
misunderstood me, and then proceed to
throw me under the bus even though he
said he wasn't going to do that. I don't
really have any comments besides I won't
be engaging with him. Listen,
if I had a tally for the similarities
between Jar and KP's behavior, that
would be quite a few. What do you mean
they work with someone problematic and
then they got thrown under the bus? What
do you mean?
>> What do you mean?
>> I just think it's so silly that she's
placing like the owners and everybody
else. She's like, "Oh, you know, it was
Brunie Fandone who connected me with
somebody and then, you know, made me put
that testimony in." girl, it's your
video.
>> Yeah, like I don't know. I don't know.
KP seems like there's someone who just
does have some semblance of connections
in the community where they can go like,
"Oh, can you tell me you're a Brave
fano?" And someone go like, "Yeah, sure.
This guy likes Lollipop." It's like,
"Okay, there you go."
>> Like, oh, society society tests me every
single day.
Uh, the main problem I had with the DA
Games talk was the fact that they didn't
even blow his child's face when bringing
them up. What the [\h__\h] Uh, the people
who put that together were unhinged. Ah,
that's [\h__\h] Like, no matter what you
do, right, if you have like kids
involved, like their like children,
that's so [\h__\h] to like put their face
out to the public. I don't I don't even
know how public their face was, but also
at the same time, it attaches them to a
uh what can be a quite like heated or
like aggressive situation. Um, no, no
kid deserves that. Like, no, no kid
deserves to have their face put on the
internet and like in that regard or in
general like uh because they can't
consent to it. Just like like I mean I
joked about it earlier into the stream,
but that um live Did you know about
this? The live Twitch birth.
>> What?
>> Oh my god, I'm telling you about this
now. Um so when you were playing you
have you were blissfully ignorant
playing Minecraft with your husband. Um,
I was telling chat about how on Twitch,
uh, there was, um, a live child birth.
>> What?
>> The CEO of Twitch was in the chat.
>> What?
>> Can we just throw Twitch away? Is that
>> You don't understand. The chat was the
only funny part about it. They were
saying stuff like W push
>> and then and then the child got born and
they said L baby.
>> Oh no.
>> It is [\h__\h] right? Like I joke about
it, but like again at the same time it's
so [\h__\h]
>> Why would you do that?
>> Imagine getting ratioed out of spawn.
Like
>> yeah, you're boring and everybody's
immediately like l
baby.
>> Yeah, it's educational. [\h__\h] off. Like
it's it's so stupid, man. Like I don't
know. The the CEO of Twitch needs like
to get like looked at with many stairs.
First it was the whole like bathtub
stream thing and now it's this. It's
like, okay, buddy. Okay. Interesting
stuff.
>> Again, the creepiness I wasn't aware of.
And he is or was very mentally ill, so I
hope he gets the help he needs.
Nell, asset use is a mess. And although
we used assets under fair use and under
transformative work properties, I admit
that some things slid by near the end.
And that's why I took the down and why
those mirrors are probably next. Sorry
for that girl that got mad at me on
Tumblr.
>> But transformative
especially tricky and sites like Tik Tok
thrive on reusable content and because
it's based in China is able to get
around said laws. Bet you didn't know
that as well.
>> What do you mean around said laws?
There's a whole [\h__\h] suit against
them. I think they're around to get
allowed to get around laws. What do you
want about?
>> Yes.
>> It is an industry standard for actors to
sometimes not have full scripts when
working, but this shouldn't be a problem
anyway since I don't plan on making any
more videos like this anytime soon.
>> Thank god.
>> This is a lie.
>> But Saber was just trying to be
responsible. I understand the sentiment,
but something that is never brought up
is that it is borderline illegal to make
someone take a pregnancy test without
their consent in the United States,
which is where the incident takes place.
Don't believe me? I've linked cases in
the description.
>> I mean, he it's not like he okay without
their cons forc them to take their
consent. It's not like Saber Spark
[\h__\h] shoved it up their cooch. Like
they asked them, "Can you please take
the pregnancy test? I'm like worried to
have a baby scare." Um, and they agreed.
So, they consented to have the the
consent was given.
>> Yeah. Like at just it was given. it at
most you could argue, okay, maybe it was
coercion because he like sort of forced
her into it, but we don't have like
concrete proof other than him sending
her panicked messages of please do this
thing because I'm worried. So like
>> isn't isn't that normal? Like I'm I'm
always thinking to myself like would you
like if I was a guy, right, and like a
partner I was with recently was like,
"Oh, I don't have my period." Would I
not also just be like, "Can you please
take a test?" Like
>> it's just a normal human reaction. Who
can blame the guy? Like bro,
>> I mean KP will always go ahead is
consistently bring up like the whole
human aspect or the uh the trauma aspect
when it comes to that situation. Uh so
surely the the same will should apply to
also to Saber Spark's reaction to
someone maybe being pregnant because of
a one like a one like a hookup. Like it
seems to go one way when it comes to gap
here. It will only apply. It only
applies when it works to their benefit.
>> Society. This is only cuz cuz KP never
had to take one cuz nobody wants her.
But like it's fine.
>> Oh, dude.
>> So tired of this woman,
>> bro. Well, I don't even know. Maybe she
was trying to baby trap her. Uh but
seriously, it's understandable Sabre
would want to know if he's having a
child, and I'd think he would want to
step up and be a dad. Okay. Uh yeah. I
mean, it's a scary thing.
You know, it's a very scary thing to go
through if you're not prepared for it in
that time in your life either. Uh I
don't know. I don't know why anyone
would want to uh
>> in this Lord's year anyway,
>> especially with like the whole like
aspect of they were just friends with
benefits, right? Like they were just
>> unserious. So yeah, that's that that
probably would change a lot. So, I I
hate this framing and this is why and I
I I will go on record and say this cuz I
don't care. This is why I think that
Courtney wrote part of the script or
gave like KP IDs for this because this
is so Courtney coded. The entirety of
like it's constantly this person
committed a sexual crime, this person
chorus, this person forced, this person
sexually harassed, this person did this.
Like the insane focus on like trying to
cu accuse any and everybody of like
something with sexual crimes is just
insane and I hate it. Like if this is
supposed to be your proper response to
something, why don't you address what
you did? Why aren't you talking about
what you did and what you [\h__\h] up? Why
is it everybody else?
>> They cannot.
>> Yeah, though. KP cannot say sorry.
Courtney can't either, but like you
know, at least that's why they're
holding hands and they're besties now. I
think Jar apologized more than this.
>> Oh my god.
>> Giving Jar a minor dub.
>> Jar is on the tier list of
>> someone to take a pregnancy test is not
being responsible. It's reproductive
coercion. A viol.
>> There it is.
>> Reproductive coercion.
>> Is that even a thing?
>> Is that a word? Is that a sentence?
>> No. I have to look it up for you.
>> We're learning so much today. This is an
educational stream, by the way. So if uh
>> Oh, no. It does exist. Okay, fair
enough.
>> This Yeah, this is an educational
stream. Therefore, under fair use,
therefore KB can't strike me.
>> But it doesn't whatever she's describing
doesn't work because uh reproductive
coercion is
Yeah. No, like it it's basically when
you force your partner to become
pregnant or when you interfere with
their birth control.
>> It's like stuff. Okay.
>> Yeah. So, it's it's forced conception,
not force prevention of conception. Like
I mean it's also not forcing conception
forcing conception because it's just
identifying if they've like
>> you know if it already happened right
it's like it's like the um Shroden's
[\h__\h] cat thing right is is there
trying to prove if the the cat's in the
box if you know what I mean
>> shring his conception I see
>> yeah exactly
violation of privacy and consent in the
US a potential father has no legal right
to compel a test or access medical
records. That's the law.
>> Grab it before you tap it.
>> Yeah.
>> What about I can't tell if that was KP
saying that, but
>> that's in the Q&A. That's in the QA.
>> I don't know. That could be very sin.
That could be a very very very soon
thing to say.
>> Apparently, she wanted to have like a
whole bit there because it says rap
before you tap it bit. So, I guess it
was supposed to have like a meme or a
video in it, but we just read it out. So
>> also uh that's the that's the one true
bit of advice. Wrap it before you tap it
guys.
>> Yeah.
>> You've learned so much today. It's
informative, constructive, educational.
>> Just be gay.
>> But the voicemails. So this is going
into why as much as there are a few
people asking, I'm not going to talk to
anyone about this because I've already
been burned with this whole situation.
>> Yeah. Now, during the immediate
aftermath of this video, I was taking
interviews to both acknowledge the video
was bad, but to try to direct attention
back to the DA games documentation, but
people were more concerned with the
other side of the story. More
specifically, this guy named Beckett.
Becket was already planning on covering
the video.
>> But in honesty, I wasn't really in a
position at that point to answer any
questions, and I should have advocated
for myself a bit better.
>> Regardless, information was coming out,
and Becca convinced me that Emily and
Bernie fan don't had manipulated. Also,
what do you mean you were in a position
to like answer questions? You went to
the interview high. You did that. What
do you mean?
>> That was a you choice.
>> That was a you choice. Uh, it's better
to find out via the magical pregnancy
testic than how my mom's old friend
found out she was pregnant at 46. Go by
going to a cardiac surgery. Jesus
Christ.
>> Okay.
>> Unfortunate question mark.
>> Uh, yeah. Unfortunate. I don't know how
to take this information. Uh,
okay.
But what I didn't think about more
critically at the time, now what was
available is that Saber told him and
guesses that it was Emily. But that's
not enough information to say without
100% doubt, which we'll get to more in a
second, but that it's someone is
innocent or guilty. Still, Becky
convinced me that this was fact. But the
thing is, it's not. Then I cried and
then I panicked and then made a bad
decision. Then I came across
>> and it escalated, but then it was talked
about. And this is why I wanted to take
space from all of this. I wanted a
chance to sit with everything myself
without being pulled in different ways.
But cope convincing people and acting
that Emily's reputation in the Skype
logs are finite proof is incredibly
dangerous.
>> Wait, how? No, sorry. I'm really
invested in Bissell's little story. How
do you how do you find out you're
pregnant through eye surgery?
>> Well, I'm assuming they they probably
like test you because they got to make
sure that you're like healthy and
everything. So they do like a bunch of
testing.
>> Into your eyes from looks pregnant to
me.
>> Smells pregnant.
>> Jesus. Oh, cat cataract. Oh. Oh god.
Okay. Okay, that makes so much more
sense.
>> Yeah,
>> that's [\h__\h] Sorry to hear about
abysal, but also damn. Uh, I'm going to
have to rewind a little bit. Sorry, I
got really distracted by that.
No, that's okay. Like she's basically
just saying she's basically just saying
like, "Oh, Becket acting like the sky
blocks are finite proof of Saber not
being guilty is dangerous." Which like
that's not the only proof that he was
given and that's not the only proof that
Saber showed.
>> And also doesn't help that like Emily
herself admits that she she misremeers a
lot and that she like her story was
changed. like literally the the [\h__\h]
convention at which one of the two
incidents was happening was changed and
the time frame was changed.
>> So,
>> it's like how am I supposed to trust
that if like I'm a huge advocate for
believable victims when they come out,
right? But I'm also an advocate for like
look at the story and come to your own
conclusions based on it. And I
understand why people look at Emily's
story and they're like, well, you know,
it's not finite yes or no. It's
dependent on who you want to believe.
I'm I'm more on the side of there was a
misunderstanding
and she regretted it afterwards and that
sucks, but that doesn't make it rape.
So,
>> you know,
yeah, I get that. Christ.
Oh, yeah. That makes more sense.
Abyssal.
Uh I believe they do it just in. Okay.
Everyone's getting really invested into
the uh the eye pregnancy. Sorry. I I'm
here for it. I'm here for it.
>> Yeah, they do that for me as well, by
the way, in case anyone's curious.
Whenever I have a sneeze, they like
check if I'm pregnant as well. By the
way,
>> I wanted a chance to sit with everything
myself without being pulled in different
ways. But to cope convincing people and
acting that Emily's reputation in the
Skype logs are finite proof is
incredibly dangerous.
>> It misleads people to what evidence
actually is. It enforces myths about
trauma and abuse. Bottom line, trying to
convince people that those
>> I'm replaying, huh?
>> Without being pulled in different ways,
but cope convincing people and acting
that Emily's reputation in the Skype
logs are finite proof is incredibly
dangerous.
>> Okay.
>> And misleads people to what evidence
actually is. It enforces myths about
trauma and abuse.
>> How?
This is so this is such a like straw man
argument of like yeah like this isn't
true because this isn't evidence and
it's like well but uh there was more
evidence like actual evidence that
Sabers break provided
because he went through the effort of
providing it because you [\h__\h]
did not which by the way the weight of
like providing evidence lays on the
accuser and not the accused so it would
have been y's job
>> to provide evidence and not the other
way around.
>> Yeah, I'm just surprised he managed to
find it. Dude teared up his [\h__\h] l
room or house just to find it. It's
actually insane.
>> Like gh.
>> And all this for a ginger.
>> I know, right?
>> Trying to convince people that those
blogs aren't enough is just ethically
shaky. It's actively harmful. It spreads
misinformation, reinforces a dangerous
myth, and manipulates people into
simplistic conclusions about deeply
complex events.
>> No, it's not. It's just telling the
truth about a person. Like uh like like
Emmy has got like a quite storied online
presence and the fact that we know it's
her who's the victim. It also adds a
level of like uh credibility when it
comes to certain things. Uh but again,
also perfect victim mentality still also
applies. uh if they were a victim in
this just because they had done bad
things in the past does not exclude the
fact they could be a victim. But also
it makes them kind of like makes us have
to be more bit more skeptical
on what if they're saying is true or
like happened the way they say it
happened if that makes sense.
But yeah. God is my stuff breaking. Oh
no.
>> No. No. I was just giggling at Nether in
the chat. We're banning you. We're
banning you. Nevertheless,
>> what happens if you take the password?
>> Okay, buddy.
>> If you want context, fine. If you want
to say this raises questions, sure. But
the second someone calls it a smoking
gun, then we've left the realm of good
faith discussions.
Uh, cut this part out. Cut this part
out. Cut this part out.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Mahi.
>> This is for the one under it, I'm
guessing you want these spaced. I don't
know.
>> Yeah. Dish
has got me working.
>> And dude, don't tell me you're not being
literally interviewing former friends of
mine about me without giving me a chance
to comment on their accounts or even be
aware that this is happening.
>> What does this have to do with anything
discussed in the video? Or is this just
there to damn my character a bit? This
is classic defensive psychology.
>> It's classic deflection psychology.
She's lying means we don't have to
wrestle with the facts. She's too
immature to understand means we don't
have to hear her perspective. She's
doing this for attention. Means we don't
have to question the system. It's not
like they know something bad about you.
It's that they need to make people
believe something bad about you or else
your points still stand.
>> And dude, I criticize your framing and
you threw a name calling tantrum. Even
in your title, your title response
screams that. And you want to be taken
seriously. This looks like textbook
projection, my guy. And for the record,
Henry was not present for the Rachel
Bloom thing, and that's not what
directly happened.
>> Wait, what? What? We've just like
entirely gone off the rails. Wait, are
they saying that Beck is projecting?
>> What?
>> I don't even know who Henry is. I think
Rachel Bloom is one of the voice actors
for um Yeah, like that I know, but I
don't [\h__\h] know who Henry is, and I
don't know what she's on about. She
switches so often. Where's our law
scholar? Uh uh uh glitchy glitchy bits.
Uh law scholar. Uh whom whom whom?
>> We need your lore. We need your lure.
>> Whom?
>> Anyway, I'm going to hit play
>> because of the
>> Henry was not there for the con he
mentioned with Jen Blake. And this was
something between me and her that she
previously approved. If she had an issue
tomorrow, she could have come to talk to
me. My issues with race were not frankly
involving Casey. I did not just sit
there and curse him out. And most
importantly, whatever stories Casey was
being told, she should have come to talk
to me about them directly.
>> So, I know who Casey is at least.
>> Casey Casey is one of the friends that
Becket and like interviewed about KP.
And Casey said some really negative
things about KP and that led to them
kind of not wanting to be friends
anymore. And KP has this whole thing
where she's like, "Oh, you know, why did
Casey never tell that like tell that to
me? Why is she saying it to you, but
she's never talked to me about it?" and
she, you know, cut contact and
everything. So that's what she's mad
here. So at least Casey I know who the
[\h__\h] like whoever Henry is. No idea.
Rachel Bloom is a voice actor. I don't
know who Jen Blake is. So like help.
>> Hi Becket. Oh is going to end up showing
my videos to a therapist, isn't she?
>> Yeah, probably. Yeah. Uh sorry glitch.
She asked. We were confused on like whom
all these people were with like there's
like so many names cuz I haven't like
specifically looked at like the DA games
stuff. So I'm like huh, who? Where? Why?
Who the [\h__\h] And you seem to know what
the [\h__\h] is going on. Also like if you
want to join for like a hot sec, you're
feel free to uh the Discord links above
and someone can drag you into a VC.
>> Record Henry was not present for the
Rachel Bloom and that's not Rachel
Bloom. Henry was not there for the con
he mentioned with Jen Blake and this was
something between me and her that she
previously approved.
>> If she had any issue, she could have
come to talk to me. My issues with race
were not frankly involving Casey. I did
not just sit there and curse him out.
And most importantly, whatever stories
Casey was being told, she should have
come to talk to me about them directly.
>> Henry is husband.
>> Interesting.
>> Well, I might have to I'm D. If my
laptop wasn't on like the like crying
out in pain like a dying robot, I would
pull out the I would take a note out of
like Khawk's book and pull out the the
paint spreadsheet.
>> It's about time we have like a [\h__\h]
spreadsheet with like rather like an
Excel sheet actually,
>> like with everybody's names in it. I had
to do that for the Courtney video cuz I
forgot who everybody is.
>> Good. I find it so funny when Khog does
it because she's like not like she does
it for like ACC stuff and like she knows
nothing like so like well she used to
know nothing when it came to it like uh
and then slowly been learning about it.
>> Oh wow.
>> It's just really funny seeing their
little spiderweb of names. She's like oh
the toasty vanilla lumu. It's amazing.
Do you do you remember do you remember
like the the [\h__\h] shipping wheels of
like you know this I ship I don't ship
and so on and so forth. This is what we
Yeah. This is what we need for the ACC
where it's like these people are
friends. These people are enemies. These
were in drama before.
>> Yeah. I mean people have I mean you made
the joke but people have already been
shipped as it is. So that's [\h__\h]
evil. Yeah.
>> Evil evil [\h__\h] stuff dude. evil.
>> Evil
>> because you think someone can't handle
it isn't kindness at all. It's
controlled disguise as concern. When you
decide for someone else that they can't
handle certain information, what you're
really saying is, "I don't trust you to
make decisions about your own life."
There's a big difference between saying,
"I'm scared this will hurt you," and
saying, "You're too immature to know
this." The first is honestility. The
second is pit ballistic. If you're
deciding what I can or can't handle
without asking me, you're not protecting
me. You're patronizing me.
>> Number three, it shifts the power
dynamic and not in a healthy way.
>> It's not the power.
>> Real friendship is built on mutual power
dynamic.
>> But withholding information flips that
balance. Suddenly, one person is a
gatekeeper of reality and the other is a
child that can't be trusted by the
truth. That power imbalance corrods the
foundation of a relationship. Because if
one person's always deciding what the
other can and should know, then that's
not really friends anymore. It's
>> Are they Are they referring to Becky
here? I'm so confused.
>> Uh, so I I know part of this Q&A section
is about Phineas apparently because I
know there was like this huge beef
between Well, I say huge beef, but there
was like there was stuff between Phineas
and KP because Phineas was giving her
advice that she didn't want to hear. So
she flipped out on him basically and
like cut contact and everything. So I
think that's
>> Yeah. So I I'm I'm pretty sure that
that's what this is about where it's
like, "Oh, you're giving me advice and
telling me what to do over you're giving
me good advice and I refuse to listen
cuz I'm a petulant child and if things
don't go my way, I will no longer play
with you."
>> Uh she's literally like 3 years old.
She's like a literal toddler. goo gaga.
>> Literally,
>> it's managing them. And when people feel
bad, even if they don't know why, they
feel betrayed later. Number four,
protecting someone from discomfort
actually stunts their growth.
>> When someone withholds something
short, I don't want to upset them now,
>> but discomfort in the anime, it's helped
people develop resilience, emotional
intelligence, and wisdom.
If you shelled someone from reality,
they will never get the chance to build
those scales. You're not sparing them
from pain. You're spending their ability
to grow. Another strong line. Choosing
between silence because you think I'm
too fragile isn't kindness. It's rubbing
me that chance to grow from the truth.
Number five, it's often about your
discomfort, not theirs. This is the
uncomfortable truth. Most people who say
they're withholding information to
protect someone are really trying to
avoid their own guilt, fear, or
awkwardness. They're not protecting the
friend. They're protecting themselves
from the fallout of honesty. And that's
not worth naming because if the
motivation is selfish, even
subconsciously, it stops being a moral
choice and starts being a control
tactic.
>> What's the question in this Q&A? I'm so
confused.
>> Let me check. Let me check the notes
>> because I don't know because unless
there's something like here that I'm
missing. This feels like they're making
arbitrary statements about like stuff
that does make sense but also may just
not apply to whatever the [\h__\h] they're
talking about cuz this feels really
weird.
>> So it it's just like the last thing that
she has as a question is the voicemail
thing,
>> right?
>> And then that's like the whole segment
we're at currently. Like that's the
entire thing we're at right now.
>> Oh, okay. like the V.
>> Yeah, that's still what we're at and
it's going to go for a while. Like I
know we forgot we forgot a few
screenshots in this, but we forgot the
one where um she tries to weaponize a
message from Emily and she also tries to
weaponize a um a message from Lio
apparently.
>> Um yeah, like there's I I'm just seeing
though. She says, let me let me read
these because they're going to um on the
I can't see that. I think it's the 12th
of Yeah, 12th of August. She says, "I'm
going to cut contact with Becket at this
point. So, if he comes up to you, feel
free to explain my point of view.
Whatever Sabre told them from the
beginning influences the whole
narrative, and that's not really
unbiased." And using a testimony I don't
even have access to, I can't refute is
pretty slimy if you ask me, even if he
doesn't realize that. Lazy too for good
measure. And Liar replies with
understood. And then she goes, "I just
want to say I appreciate the attempt,
but I think talking to Becket was a big
mistake. He uses a lot of misogynistic
gaslighting habits that I don't think
he's aware of, and that makes me
uncomfortable." Yeah, that makes me
uncomfortable now that I have finally
sat down and watched it. I feel like he
had his mindset on the story he wanted
to tell from the start and used me to
fit that narrative. It's highly
upsetting, but I hope you can see where
I'm coming from. I should have never
talked to anyone publicly until I was
ready. Dude, can you quickly uh just
like the sake of transparency, can you
send me that quickly just so I can put
that on the screen?
>> Yeah, sure.
>> So otherwise otherwise people I know
someone will go
>> I'm going to DM you. Comer
>> comer.
>> Oh god my
>> Here you go. These are these are these
two.
>> Oh god.
>> Oh no. Oh no.
>> I lag. I lag. I robot.
And then I'm also going to I'm also
going to give you the message from Emily
that will become relevant when she talks
about it.
>> Okay.
>> Um but you like I know Becket already
showed it off so it's whatever but still
okay. Let me uh
you right click and then link.
>> Boy stop gaming says by the way you
spelled Courtney wrong in the title. No
she's named Corny now.
We're naming her Corny.
She is corny.
Oh, wrong video. There we go. Also, I
believe also, sorry. Uh, thank you very
much, Melman, for the two US dollars. I
think KP is slowly making me a
misogynist. No, don't do that.
>> Uh, the real misogyny is the friends we
made along the way. Correct.
>> So, so, so true. Oh my god. Uh,
>> I don't even know if I don't even know
if Beck has seen these two DMs that I I
read out, but I know he's saying he's
seen the Emily one, but
>> Okay. Well, just for transparency, this
is literally what Hidden has just read
out. Voila.
Voila. Witness. You have seen it. You
have
>> There you go. It exists. It exists.
Therefore, we live. Also, funny because
this is also her leaking DMs from Lion.
I'm unsure if she even spoke to him
about that.
>> Interesting. So,
>> you know, going back to the whole, oh,
leaking DMs is evil, you know,
>> and again, taking notes about specific
things, but taking notes. Taking notes.
But yeah,
>> I did nothing wrong. Oh my god. I Sorry,
I the chat's like lag like slower on my
end to load in. I've just seen Becket's
message. And there it goes. Chat breaks.
>> Give a sec.
>> It's okay. I'll I'll look I'll look at
chat.
>> I fixed it. I fixed it. I was wondering
why my laptop is fighting for like its
life right now because I think I also
set like the stream to download as well
onto my laptop.
>> Oh no.
>> So, it's like going to perish
eventually, but we're going to keep
going.
>> Um,
>> it'll be worth it.
>> According to this, this video is using
one 2.2 GB of memory to load this one
video. Let me actually close this real
quick. Let me help myself. And we'll
call it. Wow.
>> I believe. I believe.
>> Okay, I've actually fixed it so much
more. Oh my god. Okay, we're so back.
Anyway, locking in.
>> The bottom line, withholding important
truth because you think someone can't
handle it isn't compassion. It's
condescension. It denies them the agency
infantilizes them and often protects you
more than it protects them. True respect
means trusting people with the truth and
supporting them through the fallout, not
deciding on their beh
>> I think KP is actually more jarcoded
than Jar is. Maybe maybe I think that
they could do a wonderful collaboration
together. I think they could go and like
defend both of their like stances at the
same time and do really well. I think
that would be the final boss. It will be
like perfect.
>> It will be like uh JKP10. It'll be
amazing.
>> No, you know, you know what uh KP should
do? She should make like a video in um
defense of Courtney Pete and everything
that came out about Courtney and then
Courtney should stab her in the back and
[\h__\h] off to anybody else so she can
truly have like the jar arc.
>> So true. I think that would be perfect.
I mean, okay, we'll go through the
comparisons. Uh underpays/ doesn't pay
people who edit for them. Uh that's one.
Um, makes really bad video. Uh, refuses
to take accountability.
Um, I just need one more video to
promise to fix this. I promise. Uh,
keeps engaging with people behind the
scenes. Has an interview that makes them
look like a [\h__\h]
Uh,
um, I think yeah, that's six. Six so far
off the top of my head. Amazing stuff.
Well, Char never went to the level of
striking everything. That's what he was
missing out on doing. I think that may
have sealed the deal. He would have been
vindicated.
>> Now, I must ask, Becca, has she struck
anything else from you? Like, uh, has
she has she struck any of your other
videos? Like, has she actually copyright
struck you?
Cuz I I I know Yen knows why I'm asking,
so I'm like, "Huh?"
You're
>> you're
Also, Becca, did you see the um oh, what
was their name? I even forgot now. I
literally had it on. Uh, okay. So, so KP
has just been proven to have leak and
has an issue. So, KP clearly has an
issue with like the whole privacy thing
uh of leak uh people leaking stuff in
relation to her, but she's already done
it to other people in the past for much
pettier reasons. uh as we've already
seen through this uh stream and also the
video that we saw where someone was
listing their experience with KP. It's
very interesting. Very very interesting
stuff. Just food for he
>> privacy complaints.
>> There was also an alleged incident that
Beckett so clear his convictions tried
to imply Emily via a private discussion
that her childhood trauma was not valid
because she wasn't vocal about it. Like,
excuse me. Proof. Are you so convinced
your boy made no mistake at all in this
case?
>> Proof.
>> Wait, is that the thingy? This
>> Yeah, that's the
>> Yeah, that one. That's like Becket won
over this. Um, because I also sent it to
him because this is like a really awful
allegation to make against Beck.
>> But last I remember, he said that he
doesn't remember that happening in
Nicole. But even if it did, the fact
that like KP is like weaponizing it not
for Emily's sake by saying, "Oh, this
was really [\h__\h] up because he did it
to Emily." No, no, she's using it to
say, "Oh, Becket's evil because he's
mean to me." Like, bro,
>> actually read this. I do recall during
my call with him. He tried suggesting
the idea that my other assaults could be
like this situation, suggesting they
were uh on me to speak up. Despite two
times being when I was a child, Becca
tried to be kind to me in court, but
this left me so triggered I threw up
that night. Dead.
God,
>> this sounds like just from reading it as
like an a third party, it sounds like a
misunderstanding.
It sounds like Beckett has said
something and Emily understood it as him
saying, "Oh, you know, you should have
spoken up about this and it was your
responsibility when that might not be
what was actually said." But I also know
that the call with Becket and Emily is
really emotional and like taxing and you
know Becket's not gonna upload that for
the heah. But again, I find it I find it
I find it so strange that KP says,
"Yeah, let me just weaponize this victim
real quick."
>> Yeah. I mean, they did out the entire
>> jump scare.
>> Who? Oh my.
>> Oh my god.
>> When are you going to bed?
>> No.
>> Never.
>> No. I'm here to say that you should go
to bed.
>> You're Stinky.
>> Yeah,
>> Stinky. Stinky.
>> I sent you photos of Stinky.
>> I know. I very much appreciate dog
pictures. Amazing stuff.
>> Okay, you guys should hydrate and also
go to bed eventually because, you know,
staying up late is not very good. Okay,
bye. Love you.
>> Yes, slime.
>> Bye.
>> Okay, slime.
>> Bye.
>> Bye, slime.
>> Bye.
>> Oh my god. Okay.
Mahi everyone.
>> Okay.
>> Very very painful.
>> Amazing. Amazing. All right. Let's
continue.
>> Have the right to dictate someone else's
traumatic experiences as a child. Now,
regardless of how you view Emily, this
isn't okay. I think this moment for me
highlighted the desperation here. This
to me seemed like an unhealthy aching
need to dismiss these accusations that
someone will act as an unethical
authority to someone else's lived human
experiences. That's not okay. No one
should be questioning other people's
experiences that they were not there
for. Period. Like, why are you so
desperate to present this story as
objective fact when that's not what is
happening? Trust me, bro. Look,
something to keep in mind is that no one
in this conversation is a cop. No one to
my knowledge is a mental health expert,
including me.
>> My original point was just to consider
both sides of the story with how the
perfect victim me
>> Yeah, but Courtney's the rape expert,
right, guys?
>> Yeah, I know. Like, again, I I talked
about this in Cat Slayer today where I
was like, I don't like Courtney. I want
to make that clear. Like this is not a
defense of Courtney, but the fact that
like KP treats Courtney as the [\h__\h]
token
token like raped friend of like, yeah,
this person was S8, they for now an
expert. As if one SA is a universal
experience and two it happening to you
is like
somehow making you an expert on it. Like
why do you treat your friend like that
way? That what? Stop. Stop.
>> That's strange, dude. I don't know. Can
you imagine if I went to someone? I was
just like, "Oh, you've been you've had
this horrible thing happen to you. Can
you go on this video to talk about this
as like uh some sort of authority on the
topic?" It's like, okay,
>> like what the [\h__\h] bro?
>> Normal behavior. I didn't completely
normal
>> right of like the the annals of the ACC,
but like not like this. Jesus Christ.
Also, wait, no. What am I talking about?
This is the Brony fandom. Actually,
never mind. Let me let me correct
myself.
>> Yeah, never mind. T
>> trauma memory work. There's an argument
to be made that this is what the
inconsistencies boil down to. L to give
the benefit of the doubt, that might be
what's happening to Saber a bit. My
point is that we can never know. I was
never in the room. Neither were you, I
assume. But when we keep these aspects
in mind, there's no clear-cut answer to
what situation entailed. And I should
have separated myself from that whole
conversation so the DA games
documentation could stand on its own.
>> The first actual logical thing she said
this entire time.
>> No, we're 20 minutes in and she she had
one point.
>> Well, actually, we're 5 hours into this
stream, so I'm counting every little bit
of that.
>> Uh, I haven't received anything. Uh,
Becket, by the way, the only thing I
have is the privacy complaint on um on
the call. I am daring her to try and
copyright strike the Q&A just for the
shits and giggles to give me a reason to
like be worse.
>> But she hasn't so far. So
>> I know silly things he
>> know. Uh but no, genuinely this is the
one common sense thing she has said. If
only she could take her own advice.
Like I mean she's even admired here like
no one knows what would have happened in
that room. Okay so like you're saying
that it like oh my god my brain my brain
my brain it hurts it hurts so much.
>> Also why did you why why did you not
start the video with that? Why was it
not like this is the only point that
matters?
>> Mhm.
>> The only point that matters is I
shouldn't have been in here. I shouldn't
have just like slapped it together with
like seven other allegations.
So, you know, that is all that she
should have said and then, you know, a
period. And I think people would have
forgotten about this and not given a
[\h__\h] but because she's like also I'm
still right about Chris because he
committed a sex crime and also also like
all the like black riff and stuff and
also Becket's really e like cuz he's a
ginger and he's he's British and he's
mean to me. Like girl, shut up. All we
needed was two sentences from you. Two.
>> Yeah.
God.
Oh no. I don't know. This entire
situation like from start to finish has
been so deranged. I mean like even the
tinier aspects are not even important to
it. Like the random appearance of
Christian Chan of all people into this
>> like people forget about that. It's so
bizarre. So bizarre.
>> There's more Christian Chan coming.
>> Oh. Oh.
>> We There will be I'm giving you this
about the Courtney video. There will be
mentions of Chris Chan in the Courtney
video.
>> I see. Interesting.
>> You're welcome.
>> Oh my god. Eka has continued.
>> Now, the perfect victim myth is about
using an accuser's reputation to dismiss
the validity of their claims and to
question if they are telling the truth.
This is a real psychological thing, not
something I made up. Whether you believe
or not, no one can deny past history is
affecting how the story is being told.
The perfect victim myth is the false
belief that only people who act a
certain way, calm, consistent,
blameless, and immediately reporting
abuse, are credible victims. It's used
to discredit survivors whose reactions
or histories don't fit them, memory
gaps, continued contact with the
perpetrator, or messy emotional
responses. The other part is trauma
memory. People have called out Emily's
inconsistencies in detail, and I
understand that on face value. But
trauma memory theory is also something
to keep in mind while consuming this
information. Trauma memory refers to the
way the brain encodes and recalls
traumatic events differently from
ordinary memories. Because trauma
activates the body survival systems,
memories can become fragmented,
disorganized, or incomplete. Details may
shift over time, and recall might be
delayed. These inconsistencies don't
mean someone is lying. They're a well
doumented feature of how trauma affects
the brain. So even though it's been well
documented that Emily's stories are
inconsistent, that alone is a harmful
standard to be setting for victims in
general.
>> I mean, but you also critique on Saber
Spark for getting the timeline wrong by
like confusing uh uh was it weeks and
months. So,
>> it's it's her her entire point also
doesn't make sense cuz like yes, she has
a point that the perfect victim myth is
like really really harmful. Also, the
Netherlands, thank you for $20 for for
for Yen. I'll make KP the perfect
victim. Don't worry.
>> I disow. I disavow. I disavow. I disow.
I'm bad pulling a foul. I disavow.
No, but like to to go back to my point
like she she has a point about like how
it's weird to expect victims to be
completely like flawless. But that's not
like why Emily's past is being brought
up in this instance. It's because she
has a history of doing [\h__\h] like this.
It's where she, you know, she has a
history of accusing people and, you
know, being in sex scandals and all that
nonsense, right? And that's why people
are like, huh, you know, h maybe her
testimony should be scrutinized just a
little bit more because of what
happened. But that's not the only reason
why people are scrutinizing her. It's
also the inconsistencies in the way
she's telling the story. It's the fact
that like there are other motivations in
here, like her allowing Courtney and KP
to like change her testimony, for
example. It's like where it all comes
off more as a conspiracy than a genuine
like victim about the story. Even the
whole thing about Emily hiding her
identity and using a smaller YouTuber's
platform to come out like anonymously
makes people distrust this. So it's an
amalgamation of things. It's not just
one thing. It's multiple re like things
that come together that make people look
at Emily's testimony and go, "Huh? Hm,
strange." And then you pair that with
like Saber Spark, so it's like, you
know.
>> Yeah. I don't know. It's just some There
is something about it, right, that I
I've never really understood. Is it the
fact that like KP and Courtney never
like actually prefaced uh the police
report to Emmy or Emmy didn't want to
make the police report because what? So,
I think it's the second one cuz last I
remember Liar really pushed like in that
call she like really pushed for you guys
need to make a police report first and
foremost and Emily was like I don't want
to do that because if I make a police
report they're going to know my identity
and Lio's Yeah. And Lio's point was like
well if you come out about this he's
also going to know because if he did do
it he knows who he did he did it to.
>> Yeah. Exactly. So it doesn't matter.
Like the only difference is that you
know with a police report you have legal
stuff looking into this and you can
actually try and get your justice which
there's this whole argument about like
is there going to be justice blah blah
blah blah but that's not the point. The
point is that this is like a legal thing
and the court of public opinion can't
determine guilt over an actual court.
So, like
>> it's it's silly because she tried
everything to not actually make it as
serious as it should be and hide her
identity and try to scoot away from this
until she accidentally revealed who she
was and people started calling her out
which then led to KP out of all people
threatening her. So, you know,
>> yeah, I don't know. On one hand, it
could be a thing that like Emmy was
genuinely like worried about like u
Sabre finding out about it and like her
getting like attacked in that regard. Or
on the other hand too,
and it's a lot more malicious, it and
again this is me being speculatory about
like what could be the reasoning behind
it. So what I'm saying here could never,
you know, be the truth or not be the
truth. You know, it's speculatory. is
that they were doing it to damage his
reputation and that way that would be
with through the core of public opinion.
>> Yeah. Like there's the this whole thing
where you know there's this thing right
where she like Emily was like, "Oh, I
don't want to come out about Saber on my
platform cuz I'm worried his fans are
going to attack me." And then when she
was asked for like an example of Saber's
like fans attacking people, she brought
up the threat between KP and Saber when
Saber called her a liar. So even that
was like informed through KP and not
actually something Emily talked about.
So this is where I'm like, well, okay.
So, did did KP and Courtney sit her down
and be like, "You can't make a police
report a come out on your own platform
because he's going to harass you and you
know everything's going to be evil, so
you got to stay anonymous or did they
just keep her anonymous for the shits
and giggles and then got mad when her
identity actually got out?" Cuz like
again I' I've listened to the DM that
she or like the voicemail that she sent
to Emily where she was like well you can
either grow up and fix this mess with me
or which like really good job KP
threatening the victim you're advocating
for. That's so that's so cute. That's so
fun. But like you know whatever. I hate
this woman. It's derogatory.
>> God uh I got to be right. Uh please uh
keep an eye on my chat. T he'll be wait
a few minutes. Give me a sec.
>> Oh no. Oh no. Hello Chad. Um this is my
stream now.
>> How's Chad doing?
Oh yeah, cuz in one of the emails KP
sent to Saber, she was pissed that Sabre
did Black Griffin sister. Yeah. Um she
literally got mad because she said, "Oh,
Saber, you dated Black Griffin Sister
over me." which like again
this this whole thing
like this whole thing feels so it feels
so weird by by the standards of like oh
KP's just doing this because she's mad
at Saber and she's mad at DA Games
because they didn't fire Chris or w
where so now we're going to make up sex
crimes and then the whole like thing
with Saber is obviously the most
personal one but still and then I feel
like the Black Griffin stuff was just
shoehorned in because Courtney was part
of the video and Courtney wanted to talk
about that. But you know,
yeah, Sleepy is very cute nevertheless.
Um, this was actually drawn by SM. Uh,
if I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure
that one of the references you sent me
was drawn by SM. I'm pretty sure,
possibly.
Also, no moose. Don't be depressed. Be
gay and do crime. I'll pay your bail.
Great heavens.
Yeah, this whole thing is just spider
driven and that's like the problem cuz
like this could have been resolved not
easily but like simply all KP had to do
was come on her platform and be like,
"Hey guys, I'm really sorry about what I
did. You know, I shouldn't have
platformed these allegations
and oopsy daisy." Um, I'm not going to
do it again. Sorry. Like, that is all
all we needed. And she's just doubling
and tripling and quadrupling down and
shooting against everybody around her,
even if they give her good advice. And
I'm like, well, you know, you've dug
your hole. Now you can lie in it.
>> What's this about hole?
>> Oh, I I was just chatting about how uh I
was entertaining your chat. We were
talking about how this all is just spite
driven over, you know, actual concern.
>> Yeah.
>> And how KP has pushed away everybody who
gave her good advice.
>> Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.
>> So I said, "Dig your hole and lay in
it." You know,
>> start digging in your butt twist.
I've been streaming for 5 hours, okay?
And I'm probably I'm probably going to
power. I'm I've got a flow going. Okay,
I got a heavy flow going. I'm probably
going to um
>> flow, huh?
>> Yeah, I realized that as I said it. I'm
probably going to want to cover the
Vincent Martin video after this.
>> Oh, good luck. Good luck. I got through
like 10 minutes of that.
>> Going to get through everything tonight.
>> I believe. I believe.
>> So true. God damn it. I need to pull my
[\h__\h] back up. Give me one second. Run.
>> Unless your PC commits a puku. It may.
It may. We'll definitely We'll
definitely have to see.
Yeah. Okay. Right. We're so back. Lock
in. Lock in.
>> We're so back.
>> Lock in. We're locked in.
>> We're locked in.
>> The fact that those documented effects
were not even mentioned. Even with a
keep in mind audience, sometimes trauma
can cause memory loss issues. But I
don't think this is happening here.
Here's why. I know I'm not one to talk,
but this coverage got a lot of views and
you couldn't be bothered to ask a mental
health expert or double check this. And
that brings me to the Skype vlogs. For
those who are not following the case,
Saber was able to find his Skype log
sometime after the original accusation
started taking off on Twitter. They are
where the baby trapping story
originates. It's been interpreted as a
smoking gun or proof that the contact
between the two of them was consensual.
But the thing is those Skype logs those
are contexting
the exact circumstantial evidence things
that might support version of events but
can't prove what happened inside that
room. The only thing that can prove that
is footage from inside the hotel room
which doesn't exist.
>> But you but but but
>> when you when you did you ever have a
dream
>> but you're claiming it happened. So,
>> no.
>> And then you keep on trying to inter
like in like sneakily sneak in these
things of like, well, we can't prove it
happened. And then 5 seconds they were
like, well, it did though.
>> Did you see it? Oh, it's like, oh my
god, dude.
>> It's just so so weird.
>> Spooky. I assume
>> I assume
>> if this was a court case, the sky logs
that the evidence wouldn't come close to
meeting the beyond a reasonable doubt
standard and even possibly dismissed.
>> And the fact that they're trying to spin
it as proof is disingenuous at best.
Beckett wants Saber to be innocent. That
bias is showing in how he interpreted my
short speaking patterns.
>> Yeah. And you want him to be guilty,
[\h__\h]
>> The thrill is a double life, [\h__\h]
headass. Like, what do you want? Like,
no one was in the room where it
happened. The room it happened. the room
where it happened.
>> Not the Hamilton. You're banned. See,
this is how I know you're a Tylenol
baby, to be honest.
>> As long as you promise to tell not
another soul what you soul what you saw.
>> Oh my god. Die
>> to here.
Can you do the fanango?
>> No.
>> Thunder of lightning. Very very
frightening me. my coping mechanisms and
his general response to the first part
of this video.
>> He's not following the evidence. He's
trying to force the evidence to fit a
conclusion he already likes.
>> You're trying to force the evidence to
fit a conclusion you like.
>> Snaps fingers.
>> Well, is that about you altering the
testimony again?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Altering evidence. Crazy. H.
>> If anyone's got more of a case of them
like trying to fit make the evidence fit
a conclusion, it's you. You and your
partner in crime dro
who said that
>> not the title baby.
>> I'm not a
>> You're welcome.
>> Leave me alone.
>> Actually, I probably am. I don't know
what it would be. I think that's an
American name. I don't know what sounds
American.
>> I don't know.
>> You're like an Advil child.
>> Advil.
You're a co baby.
>> You're a co baby.
>> Oh my god. Did you just fit out find out
you can move the the subtitles?
>> I knew it. But like it sometimes it'll
like pick up the whole [\h__\h] screen
and be like yink.
>> Oh god. Also, I managed to figure out
why my like my body hates me today. Um,
I haven't had pot like uh noodle uh
noodles in a while and they have like
stock dark soy sauce in them and they're
really tasty and then I was like h
>> ah it's probably what was killing me and
triggering my reflux.
>> So we
die you die. You're dying for commentary
then.
>> Yeah, at least you'll be here to cover
the stream and the stream.
>> True.
>> So true. You can cover the
>> No. No. Absolutely not. That is a you
problem that you
on your own donations. It'll be
imperfect. Also,
>> that was it.
>> I've just realized we've reached the
goal. I don't know how long ago we
reached the goal, but we
>> a while back.
>> Was it a while back? I'm so sorry,
everyone. I need to give you your
dopamine rush. I'm so sorry. Give me one
sec. Uh, [\h__\h] Where's my [\h__\h]
Where the [\h__\h] is it?
>> She will know the way. Yeah, you know
the way.
How do I set this up?
Oh, [\h__\h] No,
>> don't worry, Chad. I am now a KP sleep
paralysis demon.
>> It's okay.
>> Sorry, it's being silly. It wasn't
letting me do it on my phone. I'm going
to have to do it in like uh this.
>> Thank you very very much for all of you
for hitting the goal. And for that,
you get another goal.
>> Wow.
You have done such a good job. There you
go. Positive affirmations. I'm I'm skinw
walking back up. You get a sticker. You
get a Mr. Huck in the dryer. You get
head pants. You get [\h__\h] uh tie knot.
>> You're literally You're literally like
the the [\h__\h] stupendium of we work to
earn the right to work. That's what
you're doing to your Chad.
>> You get some like coupons at the local
like workshop, guys. You can only you
can only exchange them there. The yen
shop. You get yen coins. Yeah, you get
this
>> my original.
>> This is why you need to get me to 500
subs cuz I will actually give you stuff
for hitting the goal. You'll get
chinchilla pictures.
>> I'm just going to take those pictures
and claim my chinchilla and be like,
"Look at this. Don't pay attention to
the, you know, the little guy. Those are
my chinchilla. I'm going to Don't worry
about the I'll steal Marky's dog picks
as well.
This is my dog. Yeah. Yeah. Just take
pictures of take take pictures of Leia
like Fal's dog. Just be like, "Yeah,
just be like, "Oh, here's some stickers,
everyone." Yeah. And skinw walk
everyone.
>> Pavlov
Pavlov. I love that. Hidden is K-pop.
I'm so tired. I read that as K-pop demon
hunter and I'm like, "What the fuck?"
Hidden is KP's demon. Like Becket is
pumpkin Fouchi's jaws. Okay.
>> Literally
>> K-pop demon hunter hidden. That's so
true. Actually,
>> so true. So true.
>> We can finish this [\h__\h] video. Come
on.
>> No.
>> Yeah,
>> that's an agenda. There's a huge
difference between I think this points
towards innocence and this proves
innocence. The former is a theory. The
latter is a lie. But KP, I hear your
thoughts. What about how Emily still
talked to Saber before or after the
allegations? This is not rare. It's
actually documented as common in trauma
cases. Studies on assault survivors show
a significant percentage maintain some
level of communication with the
perpetrator afterwards. Not because they
weren't harmed, but because trauma
doesn't erase the social, emotional, or
power dynamics at play. Examples that
habitantly a teen still messaging the
teacher who groomed them. A victim
laughing politely with the co-orker who
assaulted them at an office party. a
survivor texting an ex hope you're okay
because they're scared of what will
happen if they don't for some key
documentation and studies. This article
examines how and why some survivors
continue interacting with their asalants
after an assault. It discusses dynamics
like power imbalances, coercion, social
pressure, emotional ties.
>> I don't know why I was like uh half
expecting this to be like something like
I don't know study written and uh
written by Courtney P.
>> Oh my god. See, I was expecting I was
expecting a Courtney Pete segment, but
that doesn't make sense cuz obviously KP
claimed that she publicly cut ties with
Courtney. She didn't. She didn't.
>> Yeah.
Ironic.
>> They're still besties. They're still
holding hands.
Not Yen disappearing again. Jesus
Christ. again.
Time for more crime.
>> Okay, we're back. Sorry about that. Had
to deal with something.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah, I end being gay.
>> So true. So, so true. Yes. Make popcorn.
Also, by the way, my chat is full of
ADHD ridden people. It's amazing.
>> Your chat is all Tylenol babies.
>> I know. I know. petition. Every time Yen
hits a goal, she has to do whatever I
tell her. I don't like that idea,
actually.
>> I like that a lot.
>> No, I don't trust Neville for that. They
They keep You Forget this person has
threatened to touch me like 10 times
during the stream.
>> Okay, but they also gave you $200.
>> It was implied consent. Is this what
you're saying?
>> Yes.
>> Christ.
Sweet Christ. Okay, we'll finish this.
and the survivor safety calculus. Man, I
[\h__\h] failed calculus. Although this
is more about disclosure and navigating
post-t trauma life, it includes
interview data in which
>> I refuse to believe that KP is somewhat
funny. I'm just believing that these are
all sin interjections. Now,
>> yeah, most of them are sometimes forced,
sometimes voluntary with the person who
harmed them and the psychological
complexity behind that. This is more of
a general reference text on trauma
responses. It explains how trauma can
lead to survival behaviors, emotional
regulation difficulties, and
relationship paradoxes such as
ambivalence towards the perpetrator.
While
>> and this is hidden fanfiction
>> doesn't always name continued context in
every case. It frames how trauma affects
literally context.
>> At the end of the day, if your argument
only works by protecting
>> going to start telling soon that KP week
stays on,
>> then you're not seeking truth, you're
seeking comfort. But KP, I hear you
thinking, why do people want this to be
so cut and dry? A couple of reasons.
>> Number one, emotional investment,
cognitive dissonance. If Becket admired
Cyber, worked with him, or built any
part of his identity around believing
Cyber, it's time for Copenic allegation
forces a psychic collision in his head.
>> The person I respective might be harmful
versus I believe good people don't do
bad things. This tension is called
cognitive dissonance. and the human
brain headset. Most people resolve it by
not questioning their worldview, but
attacking the new information. That's
how you get people twisting themselves
into knots to prove someone is innocent
because the alternative threat their own
selfimage.
>> Number eight,
>> protecting his own ego and credibility.
If Peek publicly defended Cyber early,
then his own reputation is now tied to
Cyers. If Cyber is guilty, Becket looks
foolish, naive, or even complicit. I
like the uh hard to like the trans.
He doubles down. This is the most common
escalation pattern there is in public
scandals. Defenders don't back down
because they think they're right. They
don't back down because they've st their
own credibility in it. Number three,
fear of what it says about the
ecosystem.
>> Not the ecosystem
that Becket belongs to. Phantom spaces
and creator communities. Oh my god. Yes,
Becca is my favorite member of the Brony
fandom.
>> Amazing.
>> It is. Oh my god.
>> Yeah.
>> I I'm sorry. I'm just sitting here and
it's like it's so insane how she's
making all these implications about
Sabers and like Becket's relationship
where it's like far as I remember they
didn't even [\h__\h] talk before this.
>> Yeah.
>> So this whole implication is it's silly.
It's so silly.
>> I think Becca even like made like a
snide like like a silly like remark
against Sabre at one point which is
funny
>> like before all this happened
>> and she's just sitting here and she's
like oh you know Becket clearly totes
totes admire Saber. No, perhaps there's
like the chance that Becket saw all the
evidence and came to the conclusion that
Saber, you know, that there isn't enough
evidence to condemn Saber for what he's
being accused of.
>> Just maybe, just maybe.
>> God, the Valley girl voice too voice too
perfect for an imitation. Yeah, Mahi is
a Mahi is a Mahi. Yeah, that's what I
was going to say. Mahi is a valley girl.
So true. It's so true.
>> Harboring predators. And that truth is
terrifying for people who built their
careers inside those worlds. So instead,
they cling to he's innocent because it
allows them to believe this system is
fine. It's not really about defending
one man. It's defending their sense of
safety and control. Number four, control
the narrative. If Becket flames himself
as a rational voice who knows what's
true, he gets to control how people talk
about the story. that gives him social
power. And social power, especially in
internet culture, is vindictive.
Claiming there is no smoking gun or
telling a survivor they should should
have spoken up, isn't just bad trauma
literacy. It's attempts to reshape the
story so that Becket is the authority,
and you're the one who doesn't get it.
>> Bottom line, it's not necessarily about
Sabre's innocence at all. It's about
Becket's comfort, Beckett's image,
Becket's worldview, and maybe even
Becket's power. That's why people twist
themselves into pretiles to defend
someone because the alternative forces
them to question themselves. Cognitive
dissonance 101 and why it's showing up
here. Cognitive dissonance is that awful
itchy tension our brains feel when we're
holding two conflicting a belief at
once. Example, Sabre is a good person.
Good people don't assault others. There
are allegations Saber assaulted someone.
All three can't comfortably coexist.
Something has to give. And instead of
changing the first belief, Sabre is a
good person, many people would distort
or reject the third one, the allegations
must be false to reduce that tension.
>> But this line is the kicker. Becket
makes a comment about how he never
stated he wasn't going to be unbiased in
his coverage.
>> Number one, he wanted to win a battle,
not seek truth. What if someone stakes
their ego or worldview on certain
versions of events? Sabre is innocent.
Emily is lying. KP is wrong. They they
stop acting like a reporter and start
acting like a liar. A lawyer's job find
the truth is to make their site sound
right. By admitting his bias, Becca is
basically saying the quite part out
loud. He didn't enter that video asking
what really happened. He entered asking
how do I convince someone my version is
right.
>> No, that's what you did by cognitive.
>> Yeah, projection projection self
preservation. If Becca's internal story
is SE is innocent and he's already
publicly aligned with that, backing up
now would mean admitting he might have
been wrong. He might have hurt. His
credibility may take a hint. And for a
lot of people, that's unbearable. So
instead, they double down even harder
and built whole videos around protecting
that narrative. That's not logic. That's
a subconscious safety.
>> Never do that.
>> Number three,
>> audience reinforcement.
>> Oh my god.
Outrage videos, especially ones where
someone declares themselves as the
reasonable voice against the emotional
mob, perform really well on YouTube. If
Becket's audience is mostly saber
defenders or phenom contrarians, then
there's pressure tit
I
>> You goober
cry. You goober.
>> The groups.
>> Listen, I may or may not be starting to
drink spicy water.
>> Oh no.
>> To deliver a video that confirms what
they already want to live.
>> Spicy water in that model. It's the
selling point.
>> Nerf four. Objectivity isn't the point.
>> Delegitimizing you is. Even in an
obviously biased video, you can still
achieve a goal undermining your
credibility. If Becket can convince
people you are irrational, emotional,
unreliable or making it up, then they
never have to deal with the actual
content of your arguments. That's why
people like him focus on your tone, your
character, your phrasing, anything
except the systemic issues you're
raising. Because if the messenger is
tainted, they can't be ignored.
Bottom line, if someone admits their
bias and still steps into a public
analysis role, they're not
investigating. They're campaigning.
They're trying to win a story, not
understand a situation. And that's why
These arguments fall apart under scr
because they're not built to hold truth.
They're built to hold comfort.
>> It is just interesting, right? I I I
know I'm not bringing the most in
riveting commentary to the table, but I
don't even need to say much. It's just
just no, you you do the same. It's like
what just
>> it's literally all like the the amount
of like projection that she does is
insane where she's like, "Oh, Becket's
the one who's trying to shape the
narrative. Becket's the one who doesn't
want to change his mind. Becket's the
one who's like, you know,
>> who who's scared and who wants like a
video that does well, blah blah blah
blah blah, when it's all just her.
>> Like, it's it's her. She wants She wants
to be the one who's like, "I'm right,
you're not." She wants to talk about
these issues. It's it's so [\h__\h]
silly. It's like, my god.
>> Yeah. Women. Oh my god. Also, have you
seen my uh someone drew me as KP?
>> Oh no. Look in the art. Look in the art
channel on my server.
>> Why do you have
>> Why do you have a KP soda now?
>> Apparently I I apparently I look the
best in that out of everyone who's had
it.
>> Oh my god,
I hate it.
>> Look at that shirt.
>> This is like the jar NFTs all over.
>> Oh my god, I remember that.
>> Yeah, this is the NFTs all over.
I was there.
Oh, disaster.
>> Evil.
>> Come on. I got two more minutes.
>> I believe biased and conditional
evidence. Why would I have taken the
call if I would have known this was your
intention?
>> Ending.
>> I think one of the worst parts of this
process is not only the fact that the
kids in the DA game spaces are getting
overlooked by the rest of the fallout
with the video,
>> but my reputation,
>> but my reputation.
>> I love making content. I thought I could
help this community take accountability
to the kids they have in their sphere.
>> No, you can't leave.
>> If you gain anything from this, please
look into the documentation because
unlike the Saber and Emily situation,
there is mountains of proof grooming has
gone on in their spaces unaccounted for.
And the general consensus is that Will
Ryan is too conflict avoidant to take
care of his community and protect these
kids from people in his own community
and from his lack of boundaries. This is
public gaslighting. They are trying to
rewrite definitions of evidence,
consent, and credibility. Shift blame,
distort context, not clarify the truth,
but erode it until people give up trying
to find it. They're doing it to convince
the bystanders, the people who don't
know the full story and might be swayed
by repetition and certainty. So, I urge
you to check out the Parlo videos. I
have linked
videos of this
>> parlo. Okay, so it's also even funny for
people who don't know, uh Paulo is a
mainly a person who did Roblox like
drama content. Uh he had to nuke all the
videos on his channel because of a
strike um the against him. There's a
whole thing with Paulo to do with like
mainline commentary now. Uh like the
pyroynical stuff for those who are like
in the loop when it comes to things like
that, like more mainline stuff. It's an
utter mess, right? Uh I don't know. Like
I know they I haven't actually seen the
full video myself when it comes to that
situation because that got that recently
got highlighted on of all places.
Hamilton stream uh that got like shown.
It's an absolute mess. Paulo's got his
own can of worms that I won't get into
cuz it's like
uh
>> no
>> messy but also mainline. I need to stay
in my lane. He giggle. Uh
>> giggle. Yeah,
>> smile.
>> It's just ridiculous. But
>> we're almost done.
>> We're almost
>> situation what I said last time. And the
thing is, I love doing this. I love
analyzing media and getting to the core
of why media shapes us so much.
>> I am turning comments off for this video
because my mental health literally
cannot take anymore.
>> I am turning off comments just because
this conversation deserves more than
knee-jerk outrage. It deserves careful
thought and accountability. My goal is
never to win an argument. My goal
silence,
>> demand better from creators and remind
everyone that consent, truth, and safety
matter than fandom comfort.
>> I didn't consent.
>> I hate you.
>> I don't know. Sin can do like a really
good impression of like the um
what's it called?
the postal character.
>> Oh no.
>> Could you please sign my petition,
please? Also, look, it's you.
>> It me.
>> And me.
>> Crazy. Oh god, that was a ride to say
the least.
>> Hell.
>> Absolutely insane. Uh KP is a hypocrite.
She is uh deranged. She has me me
syndrome. Uh beyond unbelievable pick me
literal pik me
>> absolutely insane. Uh so yeah when it
comes to KP I pray that we are done but
we will not be uh most likely as I uh
suspiciously drag something from my
other monitor to right here.
>> Oh no.
>> No this isn't KP. Uh, so
>> this is
>> just a small note to round off this
room.
>> Don't die. I'm leaving you to this all
on your own devices.
>> Okay,
>> cuz it's cuz it's 8:00 a.m. I need to go
sleep. I believe in you. Put him on like
two times speed. He talks a lot.
>> Okay, I shall. I shall. Well, take care
and thank you for stopping by. He
>> Thank you for having me. Bye-bye.
>> Bye-bye.
That was uh shitten uh heroine everyone.
Huh. Now I can stop the screen share and
hope that saves my laptop.
Christ
almighty.
Okay,
so
give me one sec. Let me stand up. I'll
refresh and then we'll get right into
this.
Oh, shapes and colors.
Okay, so Vincent Mson everybody has
released another video after his amazing
jaw video that he had released
previously aka it sucked ass. Uh people
may know him as the guy who ran from a
debate from the Italian, also known as
Fouchy, also known as the OT block. Very
cool stuff. We have seen that. Um
[\h__\h] hilarious if I do say so myself.
So,
I think I've seen clips of this, little
bits of this, little snippets, stop the
whole thing. We are going to speed this
up,
but
Oh my god, my body. I can't move around
too much. Oh my god, my head's my head
so cooked. J was so cooked. May I have
another sip of this? uh spicy water aka
uh deserano,
you know, uh which is a nice soft nice
soft drink by the way. Very nice soft
drink.
Oh
god.
Good stuff.
Right,
let's get right into this. We will we
will finish this off on a high note,
right?
>> Shortly after Becket dropped his Destiny
video and received a ton of criticism
for it.
>> You guys, it has a refer. It seems like
she's going to come out in some way
because she has a [\h__\h] written draft.
Like, it it just see it blows my mind,
man. Like, you've been somebody where
I've been told over and over again, "No,
dude. Copen is great. He does great
videos. takes a lot of care with them
and it's like to me I look at this I'm
like it just seems like such a selfish
story.
>> The guy went back to the topic that
brought him the most amount of success
with Just a Robot War with Maui malware.
>> Just to give some context for all this
because it occurred back in 2023. And
let's be honest, I can barely remember
what happened last week on June 16th of
2023, just before VidCon, Just a Robot
released the thumbnail for his upcoming
Spectra video. A few people, one of
which was Maui, thought this thumbnail
may cross a bit of a line, and she
voiced these concerns on Twitter. Jar
would begin demanding some kind of call
to discuss this. And as VidCon was
coming up, he suggested in a series of
messages actually meeting up with Melly,
something she felt pretty uncomfortable
with, especially with the way Jar was
phrasing her. Look at how Becket is
framing this. Honestly, how would just a
robot who's openly autistic be able to
know what Mali was feeling at that
moment? Reminds me,
>> because he's a human being and autistic
people, being autistic doesn't mean
you're entirely unable to understand
certain social cues. Considering the
kinds of topics that Jab would make on
his channel, meaning he would have some
some kind of fundamental understanding
about right and wrong and when it comes
to consent and whether or not someone
wants to speak to them or not.
I think I managed to explain that quite
well. Moving on. It's usually best to
just be straightforward with autistic
people. So, how can someone
>> uh Jar admits to in his call into my my
interview with uh him that he says that
Mali was saying no three different times
during my call. Jar audibly says no, no,
and no to when Mali wanted to uh you
know uh
Mali wanted to hang out to them. Hang
out there when he wanted to hang out
with Mali and Mali said no. No meant no.
There we go. Next
>> who's been in a community full of them
not get that especially since she had
even told him.
>> Oh cool my
>> before the whole Harley drama started.
Now to be fair to Becket he might have
not known about these DMs at the time.
>> Oh cool you very nice. Can't wait to for
you to see to see how buff I am
>> cuz I'm sure he would have found a way
to work it in with his own loaded
phrasing.
>> What the [\h__\h] It really does make him
look like a real weirdo. What kind? I
don't even [\h__\h] know from this.
>> Things were starting to go.
>> Well, there you go. Even this Messi is a
weirdo.
>> Quiet on the topic until August when a
creator named Lynlin released a video on
just a robot. And he subsequently began
to spiral and lose his mind. In
particular, Jaw was pretty unhappy that
Mlly Malware lent her voice to reading
her own tweets in Lynland's video. I'm
going to include an extended bit of this
video here because frankly the way he
goes at Harley is I don't know just kind
of revealing.
>> My brother in Christ, what the is that
thumbnail? I'm a sore about Spock as the
next person, but referencing a grown
adult made up with a child of course is
not the move. Please, I beg, change that
text. It's not right to imply such a
thing, even unintentionally.
>> Only for John to reply thusly.
>> Well, I don't call him a key word or G
word at any point in the video. I mean,
I got a cupcake next to me when I went
over my allegations. Would you like to
have a friendly VC about it?
>> J, no one said that you called Spock a
predator or a groomer in your video. I
mean, how could they? Your video wasn't
even up yet. The most that this argument
does is distract from what Mali is
saying by ultimately strawmaning what
she was even arguing by bringing up
something that even if she did have a
way to know wasn't even a topic of
conversation. It's at this point that
Harley TBS joins the battle.
>> Hello little gay people in my phone.
>> The difference is that your video on
your allegations was addressing false
allegations them in the thumbnail. And
at the end of the day, what you do with
your brand/
>> I just clocked it with diddy tones
telling.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Uh, game
ending in Minecraft.
>> Rap is your own choice and will only
affect you. However, when making a video
on Spock, it makes the implication that
the allegations against him are much
worse and draws a poor equivalency
between him and EDP, which could be
considered damaging. It's not a good
choice to do this thumbnail as such in
my opinion.
>> Pretty reasonable and good fake critique
on Harley's end there, I would say. And
yet, Jar's response would be this. I
mean, if there's one person who knows
about thumbnails backfiring at you,
you're still getting hate over the one
you did where you were, I think, 14,
maybe 15. This one.
>> I don't know why you're trying to get
clapback on the genuine criticism. This
is so mature.
>> Um, that's not what I was going for.
I've never even tried that on you once,
to be honest. Wo there, cowboy. Seems
like we're taking a bit of a leap there.
>> This would lead to a series of voice
messages and demands once again for a
VC.
>> Wo. Putting the brazen issues aside for
a moment, I skipped over some important
context that I think is key to
understanding at least a good amount of
the situation here. Specifically, the
Asid incident or what caused it all. I
tried to check Linland's channel to see
if I could watch further, but couldn't
find it on their channel anymore. So, I
did a little bit of digging and a little
bit of work and I think I figured out
why this video might have bothered Jar
so much.
>> I mean, if there's one person who knows
about thumbnails backfiring into you,
you're still getting hate over the one
you did when you were. I think 14, maybe
15.
>> I don't know why you're trying to get a
cheap clap back on genuine criticism.
This is so immature.
>> Um, that's not what I was going for.
I've never even been tried that on you.
>> Honestly, I doubt that's what he was
going for.
>> That is definitely how this reads. I'm
not going to make it a bigger thing, but
tweeting this is just very silly.
>> I mean, Lyn agrees with me.
>> Why is he doing a Why is he pitching up
his voice? Vincent Transfam Transfam.
Transfam transfam go Vincent Vincent
Vincentilia
crazy crazy crazy stuff is yet to all
people know about the damage thumbnail
they'll help you bring so I'll look over
your advice you know that I offended you
from people behind the scenes about this
video of yours right along with publicly
when it came to PML
>> then I would argue your word in your
tweet poorly if that's all it is then no
biggie
>> hard to say I am dyslexic by stopped
talking to you over text DMs because you
take too much of an unarable
interpretation at least when it comes to
text sure does it from time to time but
you do it a little too much Lynland
understood what I meant
>> I do think we need to reapproach that
subject because both myself and the
other party you spoke to had exactly the
same conclusion based on what you DM'd
us and it was definely Not what you
tried to explain it as. I think maybe
you didn't communicate what you meant
properly.
>> Met us. Who's us? If you're referring to
the DMs on Discord, I showed it to a few
people. They agreed with me. I offered
to VC with you having pizza as the
middleman, but you turned it down. Also,
it's a little fishy that you were
ignoring what Lyn said all the time.
>> What does anything Lynn said have to do
with this conversation? Mark, question
mark question mark. Discard because you
made a thumbnail that insinuated
comparison between child predator, EDP,
and now we're at some weird public view
because you be digging for something and
I just don't get it.
>> Also, a difference being that Harley was
a minor. They were about 14y old 14
years old when they made the thumbnail,
but Jar was critiquing as a
counterpoint. Uh, Jaw was a full grown
adult. Uh, piss and cry. Shitard.
>> No, this is about you misreading what I
said and pointing out that Lil
understood it. You do this a lot. You
are moving the combo instead of
admitting to me wrong.
>> I almost missed that Maui. Jump back
into this tweet thread.
>> I'm done with this conversation, man.
I'm not in it for a game of be mature
pot shots. I chimed in because I wanted
to give advice to a friend.
>> I'm back, Dar. You're wrong. End of
discussion. Any implication that is be
immediately struck down. Let's not
pretend the application is not obvious.
It cost you nothing to
>> Bro,
>> change the text on a thumbnail. Stop
being obtuse. You know better. Act like
it.
>> Did you not see my last tweet asking
people what I should change the text to?
Wait. Oh god. Do you think this Red was
arguing about the thumbnail? I'm going
to change the text, but the five people
I showed it to never pointed it out. Not
even HP.
>> This tweet thread really turned into
something uh special. Clearly, there was
a major breakdown in communications, but
if you really think the fault lies
solely with Jar, you have to be kidding
yourself. Then there's this whole thing
Harley does with the whole friendship
thing. And honestly, he comes off as
manipulative as hell. Not that Jar's
perfect here. He has his own issues,
which I'll get into, but still, if Jar
was really his friend, you would expect
Harley to handle this, to take the
criticism behind.
>> Also, I blame Fouchi for this. I
entirely blame Fouchy.
This is your fault. You did this. Not
me. It's your fault. You did this. You
made me do this.
>> [\h__\h] you.
>> The scenes or at least to clarify before
taking it public, especially being his
friend. Shouldn't Harley know about
these? But no, he he goes on publicly
instead. Not that Jar's doing the
greatest in this interaction either.
>> Still, I was curious why Mie even
released what I'm going to call the
totally not blackmail call due to this
line. I'm just a robot.
>> Wait, it's not a public thing. Yeah.
>> Unless Okay. As long as it's not
referred to as blackmail, I don't want
to have a reason. You see, for a while,
I thought that being released to Becket
to put on his channel was because of
something Jar said in his responding
with receipts. And given what I found in
setting the record straight about the
VidCon encounter with just a robot is
what led me to that oppression.
>> That out of the way, how did this whole
damn thing become public? Essentially,
it was kind of a game of telephone
because when it happened, Jar himself
had told Leo Convoy about what
transpired at VidCon. And after that,
from what I understand, Leo told Kumo
and then Kumo was the one to bring it up
publicly in interviews. Cuz if Cali Mara
here is correct, Leia leaked what Jar
told him about his VidCon experience to
Kumo. And somehow Jar using a variation
off of Kumo's version and is responding
with receipts definitely seems like the
reason or justification for Calli's
video. At least that's what I
>> What do you want about
Jou claiming that people had leaked his
story? Like the girls at VidCon had
leaked the story basically.
Uh
you're a [\h__\h]
It was Jar's fault for talking about the
story at all. If Jar had never talked
about it, then no one would have brought
it up. [\h__\h] hell.
>> I got from that whole thing. Clearly, I
was overthinking it and looking in the
wrong places cuz it seems that Mali
Malware just got pressured into it
unless she lied to Lynland in these DMs.
What is even more ironic is how Linland
frames the possibility of Jar doing a
video response to their video on him.
The fact that Lynland was trying to get
a hold of this private totally not
blackmail call that wasn't to be
released unless
>> private information that has been
discussed in private will remain private
and that things that are said will not
be lies or intentionally misrepresented
in order to make the other person look
bad. Mie agreed. Agreed. Jar agreed.
>> No, I mean yes. Jar be serious.
>> I wouldn't even call the call blackmail.
It's just being used as ammo in the
current day. So why is Lynlin calling
possible response video? Please like and
subscribe for amazing crappy content
like this to continue.
Oh, I'm so tired.
>> Bye, Jar. Blackmail. And Jar took the
situation as justification to have Lio
Convoy reach out to me. Oh god. Of
course, Lio's involved again. And to get
us to sit aside and have a discussion
about our differences and due to a
misinformed sentiment of me owing him
one, I agreed only for him to begin that
conversation by blackmailing you with
the credible threat of him sending his
transphobic audience after me. Okay,
listen. Yes, Jar Jar threatening you
with blackmail is bad. Okay, I I talked
about it covering your video. Lynn, just
because Jar's a dick doesn't mean that
everybody who criticizes you is
transphobic. You need to understand that
not every single person that says your
voice changer is annoying and your
videos are [\h__\h]
>> Does this mean Chris accepts Lynn's
premise that Jar's audience is
transphobia?
No. No, it doesn't mean that. It means
the [\h__\h] opposite. It means that
Chris is basically saying that Lynlin is
taking this too seriously when it comes
to this and they're critiquing Linlin.
What the [\h__\h] are you on about? Also,
why the [\h__\h] would you care what Chris
thinks? Unless you're still going with
this gay [\h__\h] cabal thing.
This is so autistic.
>> Your arguments are [\h__\h] Yada yada yada.
That doesn't mean that it's just all
transphobia. Okay, your voice changer is
annoying. Let's just be honest here.
There's better technology for better.
>> Hang on. Hang on.
Yeah, it doesn't mean that everybody who
criticizes you is transphobic. You need
Jar's autistic. It doesn't mean that
everyone that criticized you is
transphobic.
So why would you say that J that means
that J's audience is transphobic?
It's Chris saying that Jar
uh or or it's Chris saying that Lynn
from my understanding of this also I'm a
little bit um
tipsy he um
this is more so Chris basically saying
that like
Lyndon is seeing that Jara is
transphobic.
Uh it's not that his audience is
transphobic is how I'm seeing this.
stand that not every single person that
says your voice changer is annoying,
your videos are [\h__\h] your arguments are
[\h__\h] yada yada yada yada. That doesn't
mean that it's just all transphobia,
okay? Your voice changer is annoying.
Let's just be honest here. There's
better technology for better voice
changers. Can we just we collectively as
a [\h__\h] group?
>> Oh, he just goes on to talk about
instead of explaining why it's bad
instead of Whoa, why would you expect
them to do that? It's almost as if you
have the clips here. You're acting What
are you [\h__\h] on about? You're a
[\h__\h] [\h__\h]
>> Stop saying that that's transphobic. It
[\h__\h] Does he want to be taken
anywhere seriously by anyone on YouTube?
This conversation was brought by sending
Ms absolutely ridiculous voice nowhere
amongst other things. He used the same
credible threat of sending his audience
after me again, which to be fair, he did
do that. I'm not taking that away from
Lynland. Again, I don't know why you're
scared of like one video that's going to
gonna have like a couple mean comments
for a few days. Like, you just use power
through it, don't give a [\h__\h] but [\h__\h]
me, right? What? Cuz when you do a video
on someone on YouTube or any public
platform, you should expect some sort of
response in some sort of form to a video
being made by someone who platformed you
and helped you along. Even if they
didn't do that, there's a good chance
that it could happen anyways. But it
seems Lynlin is trying to use the fact
that they're underage and Jar's got a
transphobic audience, which even if
true, would be a better reason to talk
about these things behind the scenes
like Jar asked for. Unless there's some
particular reason why they don't want to
have these private calls with Leo Conboy
sitting in on them. I can't understand
why Lynland
>> speculatory
>> and Mali malware would be reluctant to
really resolve things privately. I can
take a guess but let me not do
>> why didn't you reach out to any of these
people Vincent rid that Batman
>> let me finish I don't like you and
that's it. It doesn't have anything to
do with oranges. It doesn't have
anything to do with lemon. I don't know
why you're making it like some sides
situation. There is no sides. I just
don't like you. You said some out of-
pocket [\h__\h] to me at VidCon. You made me
very uncomfortable and I don't want you
in my spaces. That is not a situation.
And the idea that you're running around
behind the scenes being like, "Oh, Maui
and the entire commentary community is
trying to do something to me is [\h__\h]
wild. I don't know why you're behaving
that way and you need to knock it off."
>> Okay, real quick.
>> Yes.
>> Funny that you started not liking me
around the same time everyone else did.
Kind of stop.
>> Yes, M. Let me finish. I'll let you
finish. You let me finish. Go on.
>> Sorry for a like when you send me
messages like, "Hey, Jar. I just saw
this and I want to ask you to just keep
away from me and um from me online and
offline. I have any desire for public
nonsense, especially petty nonsense like
this. So, I'd appreciate it if you could
just be an adult and realize we simply
don't get along and keep it moving. Like
the entitlement, you're a public figure.
>> Okay.
>> No, you're going to different topic
because you started with it's funny that
everyone that you dislike me as soon as
everyone else started dising you. Do you
remember what that that comment I just
sent you was directly after
>> after the whole?
>> No, it was after VidCon when you said
some truly out of pocket [\h__\h] about guns
and you're just finish. You made me
uncomfortable. I made it clear I didn't
want to see you. That was it.
>> Ignore the fact you were looking for me
on VidCon, which was again deeply
uncomfortable. The reason I don't like
you, Jaw, is because you say [\h__\h] to me
that makes me uncomfortable. I don't
care about your relationship with Lynn.
I don't care about your spats with
Harley. I could give less of a [\h__\h]
about your relationship with anyone else
in this community. You made me
uncomfortable and I don't like you. It's
that simple. Questions?
>> You started it. You came at me with my
whole foster thing, telling me to change
a [\h__\h] joke I made and then tell me
you didn't want to see me. No one want
to see me con you all.
>> Yeah, that's true. Uh oh, Mr. Crow.
Yeah, Joe just threw Vincent under the
bus at the beginning of my call with
him. Evil stuff, dude.
>> Turned on me at the same time. And I
just think this sounds I think you're
making up the whole you made me feel
comfortable saying because it's easy
out.
>> Just because he's paranoid doesn't mean
he's wrong. What's happening here?
>> What are you on about? What
>> he's gaslighting? That's not to say she
wasn't uncomfortable with how he spoke
to her in the DMs. But how would he know
that if she never told him? But the
portion
>> by him by by her saying no. Consistently
saying no whenever it's brought up. No,
I don't want to see speak to you. I No,
I don't want to. No, I don't want to.
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No means no.
Vincent, you may not be hearing that
very often, but you probably should be
understanding it by now. No means no.
Okay, you [\h__\h] idiot. In question,
when looking at this drama in this
particular way, is there any direct
examples of Mie telling him how he
talked to her made her feel
uncomfortable
>> by him by her saying no?
>> At least before VidCon. Now, it might
have happened, but you know, I would
like some proof of that being the case
with Maui.
>> The DMs that you refused to look at, the
ones that made you run away from your
debate with FG, you [\h__\h] cornball.
>> Also, notice how when she's accusing him
of stalking her, that he asked when, she
just kept talking without answering,
going on and on and on. She even
admitted to him he's been harassed
enough at VidCon. It's implied that you
[\h__\h] asked, but brushed it off as not a
problem. In a way, that would obviously
hurt him emotionally if the robot man
had any emotions. That is, which I think
he might. If this had been a debate, not
pressing her on the stalking claims
would have been a mistake. But this
wasn't a debate. It was a private call
that she decided to leak to Becket or
him to turn it into content because
people pressured her. This happened
after Jar made the biggest mistake of
his YouTube career, waited 6 months, and
did a rather poor response video. And
for all of you saying, Jar demanded this
call and even blackmailed her into it.
Why, that's an exaggeration. It's close
enough to the truth that it needs to be
addressed. So, what exactly was that
threat Jar was supposedly using to
blackmail her with to release private
info he had on her? You know, the same
sort of thing was done to him during the
Cine Bear 03 drama. So far, all we know
is maybe perhaps he would send his
>> What private information was threatened
to be leaked about Jar during the Cine
Bear 3 situation? Do you want to
elaborate on that, Vincent?
>> An phobic audience to harass Linland, a
poor minor who chose to involve herself.
>> No, it's not. You [\h__\h] absolute
[\h__\h] brain dead idiot.
Mali has just said it has nothing to do
with Lynland. It has nothing to do with
our oranges. Has nothing to do with
Harley. They felt uncomfortable about
it. It's nothing to do with Lynland. You
[\h__\h] of the YouTube drama. But what
about Malie Malware? She definitely
seemed to be poking a bear in small
little ways via other creators than
acting like he only thinks that
>> how cuz he's paranoid or traumatized
from being harassed. Doesn't this sound
like gaslighting for those?
>> No, it doesn't. You're an idiot.
>> Lighting is manipulating someone into
questioning their perception of reality.
And that's exactly
>> what happened is the DMs that we see
right in front of us and also several
[\h__\h] accounts of Jar following people
through VidCon.
>> Seems to be happening to Jar here.
Seriously, I don't know how anyone can
look at this particular call and not
acknowledge it. Unless you think people
like Jar should be dazzling just because
you get away with it and also get
something out of it.
>> God damn.
>> Uh I don't know what I'm about. Um Jar
was the person in my call to go ahead
and say, "Well, if you got manipulated
by me, that's on you." So
doesn't really work there. Vincent
>> back hand over fist for his YouTube
channel laughing at just a robot. why
most people should expect that in doing
content creation, Char can be a bit
dense and not pick up on things very
easily or at least he pretends to do it
to be manipulative is what I hear.
Still, whether or not her saying she
might see him at VidCon to be polite or
when she said it wasn't about the Harley
drama to him in DMs where it's clear he
was desperate at least for 5 minutes of
her time or if it was for some other
reason cuz it was clear at least to me
she didn't even want to do a quick meet
up with him at VidCon at all.
>> Well, why would she? She felt
uncomfortable by it. It's so simple.
Hence why I say there's at least
something in there that wasn't true from
Mali or at the very least not
communicated clearly enough to Jar until
that totally not a blackmail call.
Frankly, I think Jar was lying either to
her or himself when he said to her, "I
trust you." Back to the call between
>> What the [\h__\h] are you on about?
>> You know, Mali and Jar, which is totally
not blackmail. It was agreed that they
could talk about it privately with their
friends.
>> I fully know that J will share it with
their friends. I intended to share with
my friends. Just making that clear now.
which I believe Lio would qualify as for
JAR at least publicly at that time
despite him missing this call which
might be for the better given how much
the dude likes to use previously
privated info on someone you know after
he makes a rationalization or
justification of that to release that
agreed private info on someone that is
cuz what would Lion Man's justification
be to telling Kumo about this VidCon
incident between Jar and Ponder I'm sure
he has
>> cuz he thought he could trust Kumo for
some stupid reason
>> his rationale but I don't know what it
is and I'm not that much of a a logger
to dig through other content to try to
figure out that no
>> uh I can't even be asked to try and
figure it out or speak to the people
relevantly involved. Okay, buddy.
>> And him. It could have been complete
[\h__\h] Or was it just some sort of
revenge for Jar making a video on pretty
much the drama that went down with
Peaches and him. I have to wonder if
this is why Ponder got grace.
>> No,
not in the slightest.
>> For keeping secrets about her
interactions with Spock cuz she didn't
do anything. She didn't cover it. She
didn't betray the man. As frankly worse,
half the stuff I've seen sounds much
worse than the half-ass argument Jar had
with Cinn. You know, he didn't think she
was a pedo. And technically, the groom
thing is not intentional on her part. I
think that's the nutshell of his crappy
video. really makes you think.
>> I bring all this up cuz it sort of
conflicts with how Calimera is
portraying it in her video. Not that I
can assume she knew anything about all
of this. After all, ignorance is bliss
seems to be a theme in the ACC despite
all their talk about accountability.
Don't know about something? Yeah, I
can't hold someone accountable for it, I
guess, is their logic. Not that they
>> Yeah,
>> that it seems
>> just a reminder. M's response to Jar's
thumbnail and Jar's request to BC sort
of brought Harley into the combo and
later when Molly lent her voices to
Lynland's video on Jar. Yeah, Jar might
be dense, but it was clear that she was
missing most of
>> guys. I don't know if I can keep this
going. This is deranged.
Okay, I'm going to do a little poll.
Okay, do we want this to continue or do
I get some [\h__\h] rest? Because [\h__\h]
me, this is deranged.
I genuinely cannot with this guy.
what was being said at this point or she
didn't care what he had to say and was
possibly one of the people in Harley's
DMs.
>> It was made public without our
permission because we never wanted this
to be public in the first place and now
it's being used by Jar even though he
was the one that told Leo about this in
the first place.
>> Still trying to frame it as Jar's fault.
He got Lee is mental gymnastics at his
finest since it was Liao who told it to
Kumo, a
>> guy who wasn't there, wasn't even
involved in the situation and never even
confirmed with us about what happened
before telling the story for us because
then he got weird embellishments like
that and it just muddies the water and
that is why I'm speaking out about this
>> and I can agree with that last part.
That was what Kumo did. The same Kumo
that Lio told Jar talked to him about it
after Kumo did this. uh he wanted to
meet up with like big art names like
streamline workshop in Ponder Rocket um
in like this art space and he wasn't
taking no from an for an answer from
them and then uh he showed up at VidCon
and like with a terrible fake accent was
him and he like spoke in his real voice
and walked away and scared the [\h__\h] out
of them and like manically laughed while
walking away
>> but maybe selective ignorance is
required for creators who talk to
members of the ACC many other sections
and Callie's video come off as
misplacing the blame on this being made
public and forcing her to talk about it
publicly mostly on jar it's like how
dare he uses kumo's version of events
and not founders the sort of energy that
I get from this
>> kind go to bed and I'm about to fall
asleep I just feel angry about sometimes
things that happened 10 years ago and
sometimes I feel like revenge is the
only thing that keeps me going.
>> Oh, also I want to clarify something
else that Jar said in his video.
Basically, Jar said that Punter claimed
he laughed maniacally after squeezing
her hand or at the very least he worded
it in a way that to a lot of people
watching the video, including myself,
made it seem like she was the one that
spread this rumor. First of all, as one
of the people that Punter was waiting to
meet up with when she had that encounter
with Jar, I can verify that the story
she told minutes after it happened and
now is still the same.
>> There's also a strong likelihood of her
wanting to back up her friend's claims
about just a robot docking them at
BigCon.
>> Bridge was completely burnt. There were
no more lines of communication between
Dar and our friend group. So, imagine
our surprise when Dar did show up again
alone, might add. Now, in his video, Dar
claims that he wasn't purposely
>> No, you're an idiot. I mean, why would
you [\h__\h] all lie about something like
that?
>> Following us around, and overall, I
think either Dar poorly structured his
defense or he was purposely wording
things in a manipulative way because he
essentially addresses the allegation
like it's being levied at someone else.
And with the way he words things, you'd
think he was trying to construct the
narrative that he wasn't there at all.
>> There was another allegation of me
hunting them down at BigCon 24. From the
video ends I've seen, the video footage
just shows them running or hiding from
someone who is allegedly me, but they
don't show me any of their video
footage. There's not one single shot of
that end. I was looking for them. I'm
sure I was keeping an eye out for
partner and I saw I was just going to
say, "Hey, you see if there was a movie
on you and then walk away and that was
not it. If there was a video of bringing
the Vlayer to catch them or chasing them
around at panels, that would sure make
me look very creepy. But just for a
sake, let's take a word. Let's say I was
hunting them down at VidCon, and chasing
after them. Then what I do when I call
them, shake their hand again. Sorry, but
I'm going to keep on VidCon. I'm not
looking for you guys, and I hope you
guys aren't looking for me. We can both
enjoy it separately. As much as they say
I'm related, but I think they're really
the annoying ones.
>> Based off the evidence I've seen, Jar,
you were there. Don't act like you're
hearing about this from a second or
third party.
>> Kelly doesn't actually prove any of
this. Just gives her viewers a trust me,
bro moment by showing someone locking
eyes with someone else and claiming it
was Jar. And maybe it was him. Maybe it
did happen in 2024. But this whole
theory,
>> I mean, Jar admits to actively looking
for them and approaching them. I class
that stalking. You're an idiot. been
some
>> about what Jar is probably trying to do
in this video feels like such a [\h__\h]
reach. Trying to argue Jar would deny he
was even there is just one example of
the many reasons I've been called in
several parts of this video using mental
gymnastics for justifying it. No.
>> Well, Jar is basically saying that it
wasn't him.
>> I'm not going to sit here and say Jar
wasn't stalking them at VidCon 2023 or
202.
>> I mean, you were exact. That's exactly
what you were saying
>> or two, I guess, cuz I don't know that.
But speaking personally, if I generally
believe someone was stalking or
harassing me at a public event like
VidCon for two years straight, I would
want to document that [\h__\h] Hell, even
if I thought it might spark drama, I'd
probably go to the staff and report it
as a safety concern. And maybe they did,
but I find it hard to believe Jar would
behave like this in public, given how
paranoid he was about getting cancelled,
at least beyond the weird encounter both
he and Ponder remembered differently,
which no one else in Ponder's girl power
group actually witnessed. At least
according to Ponder.
>> And some of you might be thinking, "Oh,
that's the funny part." The funny part
was the experience. No, the funny part
is the context around it. See, 5
minutes, maybe not even that. After this
person walked away from us, the other
people that we were hanging out with at
VidCon came to meet up with us in that
exact spot, including the people this
creator was looking for. The funny thing
is that if they hadn't introduced
themselves to me, showing a person who
otherwise wouldn't have been able to
pick them out of a crowd exactly what
they looked like, and they just sat
there for a couple extra minutes, they
would have had the exact people who were
trying to avoid them walk right up to
them, none the wiser. I guess doing
whatever purpose that served was more
important, which is so funny that it
ended up being the greatest part of the
whole trip.
>> Another part of Ponder's VidCon video
that I found interesting is this section
here.
>> At that point, Molly put me aside and
explained her situation. As it turns
out, before the party, Molly had taken
an edible and was having a bit of a bad
reaction. And so, as the resident
stoner, I switched into mom mode. We
excused ourselves from the party, headed
back to the B&B, and snuggled up to
watch Gravity Falls for the rest of the
evening. I have to wonder if Maui shared
the DM she got from just a robot while
they were snuggled up. Assuming any of
the stories from
>> you're speculating you're an idiot
>> under in this particular video are true
given how much has come out since then.
Coverage from many people such as Akumo
and Hostify at the very least puts
Ponder's honesty in doubt. Now I don't
want to just rely
>> oh [\h__\h] off on doubt that was created by
other people in the credibility of those
in the ACC and those around them cuz as
much as Maly Malware wants to claim it
has nothing to do with Harley that would
contradict something that's ironically
found in one of Harley's own videos
>> maternal feeling towards Harley. Uh, so
it's going to take an actual like
malicious act from him, sorry, them that
I that I can see and perceive before I
would would cut them off.
>> There's a lot of stuff Harley that we
haven't talked about yet, such as So,
you know what's going on with the glitch
stuff, right?
>> I mean, vaguely a little bit.
>> You know that Crystal was a child that
was room on that server, right?
>> Yes. Yes.
>> When Harley approached Crystal, Harley
told Crystal she wasn't only four years.
>> Sorry. What?
Crystal Flame reached out to Vincent.
What the [\h__\h]
did
your age. Okay. I got to add
>> and that they needed they needed better
evidence other victims because that's my
evidence.
>> Okay. I mean that would be the sort of
thing I would have to actually talk to
Harley about cuz I unfortunately this is
another issue that we had oh god again
months ago when this the call was first
kind of brought up and then like the
situation all that stuff where sometimes
you would tell you I think it was I
think you said it first where you told
me that I was uh associating with people
who supported Miz or something and that
that freaked me out when I asked you who
you told me that you couldn't tell me
and then eventually like a few months
later on the jar call uh you told me you
met Harley and I think you said that cuz
you was like we'll talk about it when we
have the call. You can imagine my
distress when you said someone in my
midst is a secret defender and I think
you were referencing squawk that so you
can imagine why I take with a grain of
salt whenever tell me that kind of thing
right which is probably also why I was a
little hesitant because at this point I
can't trust when people just tell me
these things anymore. When did I tell
you you were affiliated with defenders?
>> Uh calling sper.
>> I'm in fairness. I may not be
remembering your words correctly. Uh
because that was when we talked about
that call and I was confused about jaw
being paranoid about this group of youth
that explained to me it was Harley and
orange and why I mentioned orange this.
It's all [\h__\h] connected. Um
>> you heard it yourself. She said it's all
connected herself, but I'm being mean by
not blaming the conducts that led to
this previously private call being
released by Harley. At least with the
consent of the two people involved.
>> In September of 2022, several of my
staff members and personal friends were
dragged into Senate and interrogated
over a mistake that they made in
spreading a false private allegation
both in private and publicly via the
announcements channel of my Discord ser
at the point where representatives of
Senate including hope speeches brought
them to a call and started to
interrogate them in front of an audience
of people. None of my staff members are
public figures and so I did not
understand why they were made into a
public spectacle for Senate. This was an
issue with my server that should have
been brought to my attention and then I
could have removed those members from my
staff team for both mishandling their
power and putting my reputation at stake
and making false allegations in my
announcements chart. But because of the
way the situation was handled by Senate,
it became so much worse. One of these
members contacted me and told me that
they were not left alone by Senate even
after they expressed that they were near
divergent. That the way they were
treated in Senate led to them having a
mental breakdown while on the call and
that said call put them at risk without
in safety in ways I will not avge in
this video. While I agree that these
parties were out of line as I removed
every single one of these people from my
staff team following this mistake. It
was a situation for me to handle and
instead it was taken to Senate's own
hands and made so much work. The main
staff member that was interrogated was
not even the staff member that posted
the announcement as they refused to join
the call. And yet they were made an
example out of in front of an audience
of up to 100 people. I decided not to
share this information publicly at the
time it happened because I was concerned
for the safety of the staff involved and
felt that public discussion around it
would make it worse for them. Though
I've since received approval from this
exaff member to include the story within
this video and at their request because
they are not a public figure, I have
kept them anonym or anyone else
representing Senate makes a response to
this video in any capacity. I would like
to ask that they remain remain unnamed
and I would like to ask that their call
is not plain. You are free to criticize
me for anything I've said publicly but
to bring a non-public figure into this
discussion when they have no platform to
defend themselves and also when they no
longer represent me would be reckless
and irresponsible. This also led to a
conversation with teachers where I
refused to use the Senate to resolve a
dispute because I felt the server was
not conducive to topic of conversation.
This and several other situations are
what led to me and peaches cutting ties
with each other and I haven't been their
friend for over a year now. I was also
made aware that immediately as soon as I
cut ties with peaches, they started to
dig for dirt for me. Though it turned
out when I was contacted by more people
that that behavior continued even while
we were friends. While I'm not on good
terms with fly and I've since cut him
off, he has also expressed the sentiment
that his perspective on me was
influenced by peaches and the claims
they made about me behind the scenes.
And in this clip, you'll see how bad
that his perspective on me was. As with
the consent of both FL and Mali, I would
like to publicize the conversation they
had in private where I was trying was
trying to convince Maui, one of my
personal friends and someone I've met in
real life applications, who cut ties
with me over claims that I and I cannot
be more clear about this if I try or
flagrantly and blatantly untrue.
>> I played the relevant parts that I could
to both highlight the attitude of the
ACC, at least at that time, had about
releasing previously private calls. And
this also very likely explains why
Harley didn't want to VC with his friend
given that Jar was dumb enough or
manipulative enough to be in bed with
>> this is just so moronic. I don't know
like Vincent can never just [\h__\h]
point to a single instance and be like,
"Yeah, here's the evidence surrounding
it. Here's like that. It's all
speculatory men's behavior." This guy
likes to [\h__\h] pretend he's got some
sort of like PhD in this [\h__\h] It's just
so obnoxious.
>> With Peaches and Lio convoy to mediate
him. You can take that your pick of
which he was trying to do in that
thread. Frankly, I would go with dumb
over malice, but that's just me. Funny
enough, this seems to be something
Harley fails to mention to Turkey Tom
when the Tom of the Turkey is looking
over this matter.
>> That is a server owned by La Comboy,
moderated by like some other YouTubers
with like 1K subs, 100K, that kind of
rain. Um, and basically the way it
functioned would be they would find
someone they deem immoral, drag them
into a call, have like a spectators
group of like 80 plus people that could
just kind of hop in anytime and
basically just like murder them like
stream for content.
>> Uh, sometimes they would turn into
YouTube VODs, but it was mostly just for
like the satisfaction of the people in
the server
>> just for fun. They were just getting
this like a John Swanson type thing.
They're all
>> I kind of Yeah, it's like I know Peaches
used some clips in one of their videos
um but I think as far as it went like it
wasn't really a big like thing for
money. It was just kind of a thing for
like the way I explain my videos. I
think a lot of these people are just
kind of mentally unwell and um they've
gone through their own kind of trauma.
Go after people they deem to be bad and
vent
>> very [\h__\h] funny. Vincent, you're so
[\h__\h] comedic.
>> Whatever. They're upset about them.
>> Okay, gotcha.
>> Even when Tom brings up Jar where Harley
claims not to. I still respect that.
>> That's true. I he makes I don't know
what happened to the story about I used
to make videos with him back in the day.
We kind of had like vague disagreement
>> [\h__\h] Seriously, this is plain dumb
at best and a lie any other way you want
to slice it with the current knowledge
that I have that anyone should have. But
why would they care? Now I can
understand why he might have played dumb
in that moment. Hardly question why Tom
thinks Jar is a genius. I'm only
he's the only one from that community as
far as concern is a genius genius.
>> He's a genius.
>> What gives you the impression is a
genius? Um, well that leopard was
talking about Gumby's penis after
>> before doing his own little dumb act,
pretending he wasn't avoiding jar
because he was still friendly with
peaches or liio at the time. Probably
had his own suspicions of being set up.
In hindsight, that idea is
>> You're speculating. I don't There's
nothing I can really say about this.
This is just such a speculatory push.
>> Very supported. Anyone who went through
that and not thinking that's a
possibility, uh, who knows what that
says about their intelligence cuz that
whole thing, especially that Twitter
thread, was beyond dumb. It reminds me
of that.
>> Like Vincent refuses to show actual
screenshots. They're just showing vague
[\h__\h] clips. So, I don't know what to
work with this.
>> Same sort of behavior we saw when Spock
admitted to things to Peach's hints and
thought, "Yeah, no one would care." And
frankly, he was half right. Peach told
me was that she gave Spock proof for his
video on her drama. But he almost used
none of it. If you've seen my first
video on Spock, then you would know how
unfair he was to her when he knew that
the drama around her was 99% made of
[\h__\h] So, why did I go over this?
Well, it was because Peaches didn't have
proof at the time. Her old Discord where
she talked to him was gone. The only one
of the proof was Spock himself along
with screenshots from one of Harley's
videos that unfortunately was not
sufficient enough evidence. Is Quint who
covered this situation and the way he
handled it genuinely angers me. In the
end of Peach, he discusses how the
evidence she provides him completely
changes the narrative. Then continues to
make his video where he says in the end
of her that his video misses the mark
and doesn't offend her at all. where he
says that he has to go after her for the
sake of PR.
>> So, has any new evidence come to light
that gives Malie's stalking claim about
Jar, the ones from the totally not
blackmail call, any more credibility?
Well, not really, but frankly, nothing
genuinely new to add with aside from
that video where Harley supposedly locks
eyes with someone who might have been
Jar or could have been someone else
entirely cuz unlike Hala Mara with her
weird day that he's making out like he
wasn't even at VidCon. No, the dude
would deny it. He was a creator. You
guys exiled him and what he was supposed
to go out of his way so he didn't
encounter you. So, a group of ACC. Yes,
>> people got a former exile and now he's
supposed to make sure he's not going to
the same places even though they have
similar interests obviously and Harley
might have wanted to make the
>> Yes, but he should have really stayed
away from them and not approached them
at the convention.
>> Those claims right and there Tom there,
but instead chose to play dumb. Probably
because of the same values he went on
about in the video that Tom didn't have
that attention span to actually engage
with. It took an outsider like Becky
coming in with his whole who cares about
all these rules you idiots have. We're
here to make content attitude for this
narrative to really take off. Aided by
commentary's growing tension to local
content, probably fueled by the LCU
started by Keemstar, but more aided
indirectly by two other former Twitch
pole dancers turn commentary community
people, Judloic and Queen. Not saying
they were in on anything, just if it was
something they can make content on, it
was good enough for them. And this is
the same guy who bragged to another
leftist creator. He learned how to take
down other YouTubers from a old Turkey
to Tom video. Talk to you really about
cancelling and like career ending and
why sometimes it happens and sometimes
it doesn't. And kind of in your
experience covering this stuff, being a
fan of it even before, you know, how
does someone actually end their career?
How do you actually end somebody's
career? How much effect can you cause?
>> You know, it's really interesting. I was
talking to Toify about this earlier
today. Um cuz everyone's doing this end
of year reflect [\h__\h] Uh but there's a
video by Turkey Tom about 6 years ago.
How to destroy a YouTuber.
>> And oh yeah, I got paid by Brandon Wood
to make his first video. And yeah, I'm
being extremely reductive with this last
little bit cuz the evidence for so many
of these claims against Jar are so paper
thin and frankly seem like a
>> No, they're not paper thin. There's
evidence that Jar was at VidCon. There's
evidence that Jar approached the group.
There's evidence that no one wanted to
interact with Jar at the convention and
Jar did it anyway. You're a [\h__\h]
Vincent. If the main thing you are
tackling here is the whole [\h__\h]
VidCon thing. The only thing you are
showing is random clips that go ahead
and and you're doing things based off of
[\h__\h] vibes. You're a [\h__\h]
>> Vinion of overactive imaginations of
these Twitch pole rejects. That is
beyond reductive. I know it's the court
of opinion, but shouldn't the burden of
brute be on the user? And Jar was dumb
enough to think he could talk his way
and apologize his way out of it. Sorry,
Jar. I said it in my last video and a
lot of it came true. Jar's officially a
log after making so many responses. Like
I said, he would become. But that
doesn't matter to most of anyone cuz
Becky got this narrative in well enough
before he sort of gotten out by the
commentary community. As I highlighted
in the very beginning, he worked his way
up that hole now recording becoming the
ACC autistic whisperer and became an
expert when really he was just leeching
off of various other people's
perspective on ACC. Starting with a kumu
and each one of those people I
mentioned, they found a way to piss off
the greater commentary community for the
most part in all in different little
special ways. So they do what they must
to survive and I sure they will.
>> [\h__\h] you mean leeching off opinion? What
are you saying that people two people
kind of have the same opinion? [\h__\h] off.
Even Becket smart to focus on his ACC
content cuz the dude can get away with
so much more PS in that space. As long
as he starts chewing things a little bit
more smartly. Probably starting with
losing the baggage of Lio Convoy. But
for some reason, I doubt that's going to
happen. As long as you're going against
someone who's hated enough, bearded
enough, or small enough, you ain't going
to get no flat and no one's going to go
to bat for them. It seems very similar
like with Smash at claiming that it was
really Alysa Mcconte, who was the one
harassing him. Yes, the cringy, very
unlikable Kataku reporter with almost
very few following back when Smash
started his little campaign in Kotaku
really started. She's the one harassing
the guy who stood out from the pack of
morons of the anti-DI and anti-woke from
the rest of the [\h__\h] who latched on
to Gamergate by baiting a nobody doing
the anti-woke woke [\h__\h] Dude, [\h__\h]
>> reporter into going Karen on them and
writing that victimhood on her spur out
in the DMs of his wife. Bad move on her
behalf, but she is a Hassan s and she
does still hold on to old archaic SJW
views such as P plus P equals racism.
Why? That's the center focus. They claim
everyone against smash and grums are
just like otaku reporters, no matter how
true that might be. Guilt by association
is these bread and butters of these
people even when it's complete head
cannon and [\h__\h] that enables them to
make false claims about people because
somehow they're too hated or too small
to really care about covering. I'm going
to sign out now with a bit of aumo talk
with ponder. Don't worry you won't miss
any of the visuals. I'll put the vague
disagreement on the screen so you can
judge them for yourself if you want.
>> Does it always audience?
Um and that was brought up during the ni
call.
>> What does that have to do with anger?
>> It's just the art audience has um
ironically this is coming from me. Uh so
ironically they have a bit of a black
and white view. Oh yeah, they're very
prone to anger. That's why so many of my
videos are focused around Well, nowadays
I'm trying to switch to videos that
focus around like, "Hey guys, there are
shades of gray."
>> It's it's it's a it's a rare rare thing
because uh either most videos are just
like onesided stories and so they do
very well because they're one-sided
story, but they're juicier that way.
They get more attention that way.
>> Yeah. You got a hero, you've got a
villain, you got a narrative.
>> Yeah, exactly. Um
>> and when it's when it's not so that way,
uh you know, everyone's everyone and I
mean everyone has to be either a victim,
a harasser, or I mean everyone.
>> Yeah, I agree. Black Ops uh I think my
last two brain cells are dying as well.
Dude, I'm so tired. This is so AIDS.
>> Uh yeah, FCK, right? I I um I [\h__\h] with
them after they make up [\h__\h] about me or
I I don't know, photoshop evidence or
accuse me of sending boxers and then
flip-flopping. See, one minute I I did I
did the doxing myself. I tried to do it.
And the next minute I sent people and
there's no proof of it, just I I had a
conversation with the dude and uh you
know, just a whole inconsistent mess.
But um many of them took down their
videos and just sort of ran away. And
what's what's really funny is Mad Libs
announced that she was leaving dropping
the Mad Libs art persona right after I
announced that I had the the FCK server
and the entire thing. So coincidence, I
maybe I don't know, but um
What?
I'm going insane.
What What is this audio?
Okay,
I I'm so sorry. I could not add to that.
That was just mad ramblings in the form
of a YouTube video. That was deranged.
There was like barely any sort of
[\h__\h] evidence there apart from like
the spot to point when it came to
ponder.
But I want to thank everyone who showed
up for this stream today. I want to
thank you all so so much.
Um,
dude,
this has been such a long stream.
Holy [\h__\h] [\h__\h] dude.
My body my body aches. I need to lie
down. I need to sleep.
Um
and yeah,
I am going to see if anyone else is
alive to send you over there. Let's have
a look
who's live.
Right. I'm going to send you over to
March, baby. I don't know what the [\h__\h]
he's doing. I need to rest. Y'all have
been awesome. Thanks, Special thanks to
Neless and Ace for the massive
donations.
But without further ado, I have been I
have been Yen and I'm going to sleep.
Goodbye.