She was literally freshly 21, you guys.
She was freshly 21 and he was 26. Why
Why is this not being reported to the
police right now as we speak? This is
insane. I can't He can't keep getting
away with it.
>> I spend half of my time talking about
Saber Spark and the other half of the
time hoping that somebody else will
bring him up so I can talk about him
more. I can't help myself. It's two
[\h__\h] in a call for two hours going
exactly back and forth. That's the whole
call. I'm telling you right now.
So Lazy Bed Head does like commentary
commentary slop really internet culture
drama video essays blah blah blah like
that kind of that's the kind of stuff
that Lazy Bedhead does. Um Lazy Bed Head
is here because Lazy Bedhead um was
tangentally involved in the Saber Spark
allegations. Um the extent um is
truthfully not really known, but Lazy
Bed Head has, you know, about 50K on
YouTube. We're doing some Hellraiser
stuff on here. We're doing conservative
cartoons. We're doing Five Nights at
Freddy's.
Um some Essence of Thought content. Love
that. Um I can just show you guys. This
is what I'm looking at here. This is a
little bit of what we got going on. So,
uh, Lazy Bedhead was involved
tangentally in the Saber Spark stuff
just because, you know, everybody wanted
to get in on that. Everybody wanted to
get in on that. Um, but yeah, I mean, my
general impression of Lazy Bed Head is
very two-faced, very snaky. Um, we'll
say anything to kind of appease the
crowd, like that kind of thing. That's
the general impression that I am left
with um, in regard to Lazy Bedhead.
Nonetheless, uh this is the first time
to my understanding other than the Slug
Entertainment or Slug Media or whatever
the [\h__\h] channel, um like you know the
70 sub YouTube channel, um that KP did
an interview on. I think this is like
the first big channel that she has given
a statement on. Um so TLDDR, for
everybody who doesn't know, I love Kim
Possible a lot had a really big grudge
against this guy named Saberspark who's
like a big brony content creator. Um 10
years ago it was alleged that Saberspark
actually assaulted somebody. this
person, you know, was drugg up from the
grave, gave anonymous testimony that
Saber Spark uh assaulted her not once
but twice. Um after the fact it came out
that, you know, this person has um a
history of lying and star [\h__\h] and
all this kind of stuff and that, you
know, it was it was all over embellished
and this that and the other thing. Um
the information was given to I Love Kim
Possible a lot by Bonk. I love
Impossible a lot. Has had a grudge
against Saber Spark for well over a
decade and decided to make this waste of
time hit piece that threw in everything
except for the kitchen sink just about
in order to try and drag all of these
people. Saber Spark, Black Griffin, um
Chris Games, like there there literally
wasn't anybody in this video that wasn't
mentioned. She even threw in a segment
at the very end with Lily Orchard. It
was like a three-hour video. She took it
down within 24 hours of it being up. It
was it was very very bad. and she was,
you know, hyping this video um for for
quite a while. I have previous coverage
of the deleted video and all the
aftermath of all of that. So, that's
just a very quick TLDDR for anybody who
doesn't know anything about it. Um and
then yeah, so let's go ahead and get
crazy. We're going to listen to Kim
Possible try to explain why she's um a
manipulative too.
[Music]
I'm glad that we're having this
conversation because there's just it's
more so just to relieve any possibility.
Right. Because you know how past things
in the internet have been in regards to
stuff like this. Right.
>> Right. Right.
>> So
>> and also I just have a concern in terms
of like the motivation of your video
considering how interconnected you are.
It's kind of good to have this
verification about it.
>> Um just so that there's like
>> we can understand from what angle you
were trying to get at with that video
and like at least get a statement out
there as to what your thought process
was. Like I know I asked you questions
in terms of like the actual production
side of it, but I never asked for your
like independent thought on it because I
know that you have opinions and things
and feelings. So my first thing that we
should probably talk about is in regards
to the Saber Spark thing cuz in your
email in your video, you mentioned that
he had like some sort of crush on you.
So that indicates that he at least kind
of
>> This is uh KP's favorite thing ever.
Okay. Everybody who has ever done her
wrong, anybody who doesn't like her,
it's just because they want to her. It's
uh the white woman entitlement card.
It's everybody's favorite. It's a fan
favorite. Okay. It's a fan favorite. All
right. Um
she did this with Chris. Um she's doing
this within Saber Spark. Uh being one of
the only adult biological females that
is into My Little Pony comes with an
ego. And unfortunately, um the greater
the ego, the greater the fall. Um
because she has been proverating on this
that that Saber Spark and all these
other people wanted to her for [\h__\h]
ever, dude. Like I would honestly not
even be kind of surprised because I was
nice to her like one time a year ago
that she thinks that I want to [\h__\h] her.
Like that is her go-to for everything is
oh my god this person just wants to me.
It's incredible. It's incredible. And
the the ego the ego comes from being the
only uh adult biological female that
likes My Little Pony. No, no, no, no.
She's not hot enough or funny enough for
this ego. I agree.
>> Kind of knew each other,
>> right? Um, so it we met because we were
supposed to do the um the Bernie's
collab together. We actually met for the
not Rainbow Rocks um the Halloween one,
I think, with racist game in it. Uh
well, no, no, not maybe. No, it was
>> racist game. Oh,
>> like Cheaty Ponies, something like that.
Like it was like 3.5. I can find it. Um
I just don't remember off the top of my
head. So
>> it was a it was a bronies react video as
far as you're remembering correctly.
>> Oh yeah, for sure. Like I just don't
remember what it's specifically called,
but let me check.
>> Lazy bed is the one that I said that had
they them energy, right? the one that
would make like a mean caramel
macchiato, right? That's the same one.
Because let me let me tell you, uh Lazy
Bedhead looks like they would up a local
uh Starbucks. Like, you know what I'm
talking about. You walk into the coffee
shop and you see some [\h__\h] with like a
pink mullet mohawk, like clown makeup,
and face tattoos, and you're like, "This
coffee is going to be the best coffee
I've ever had in my entire life."
Endearingly, of course. It's the the the
they them barista energy, which is a
great aesthetic to have, especially if
you work as a barista, because I know
those [\h__\h] know how to not burn the
coffee. It's amazing.
>> I could probably find it pretty easily,
>> right? And AC best race best that guy.
He's like the same guy that had that
like weird skit with Michelle and Gabe
being racist and [\h__\h]
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um I know I know both of
them. I know Saber a little bit better.
Um I've not
>> Is like a friend of Sabers or something?
>> They're they're close friends. Yeah.
>> Are they friends?
>> To my knowledge. Um, I don't know 100%.
But, um, Race Bass is very
non-confrontational,
so he might just be laying low, but
we're not very close, so I don't know
for sure.
>> But were they also at Bab's wedding? Was
he the blonde guy?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Okay. I figured cuz I see his face
a lot, and I'm like, where have I keep
seeing this guy's face before? That's
when I was doing my research, I keen
this guy. I'm like, okay, he's the guy
that hosts the the Ponies React, but
he's also also at the wedding, I think.
So, you and Saber were at least within
the same circles. Would you guys
consider each other like actual friends
or was it more so like you just got you
guys just kind of knew each other from
like other people?
>> Well, we were the the the concern that I
guess wasn't clear in the video is that
we were hanging out independently of
production of the Brony's React stuff
and what I thought was a friendship
thing he
>> I think he was trying to I think feel me
out as far as romantic stuff. But that's
um a history saver has he
>> and the evidence for this is my opinion.
The evidence is that I think that every
single person that has ever been nice to
me is trying to like
I don't I don't know where I don't know
why we do this. It's soing embarrassing.
It's soing embarrassing. Um like I
mentioned in the video, but just to be
more specific, um I know his last
girlfriend before this one, he also met
at a con and was a cosplayer. I'd never
met her. I just know of her. So, um,
again, the pattern of him using I don't
want to say his influence, but whatever
it is to um to to use it to get girls, I
guess.
>> Here it is. My Little Pony generation 3
reaction.
>> Okay. All right. So, you you were at
least friendly enough with them to
consider them like at least like would
you I guess to get to specifics of that,
is it would you consider them like an
actual like friend outside of work or
was it like a work relationship kind of
thing where like oh yeah, he's my friend
but just from like job stuff? um
a little I guess a little bit of both.
Um so I cuz because we didn't really
have like during that period of um uh
the videos in between. Um uh we were
hanging out pretty not regularly but
like um a bit he wasn't in college and I
was at the time so he'd drive I'm not
going to tell you what city it's in but
um yeah he would drive to um see me um a
couple of times and there was one time
where I was at my parents house.
>> Wow. Friends hung out. They must want to
like
You guys, this is crazy. This is crazy.
Um,
>> he drove to my parents house. Um, how
much older is Saber in comparison to
you? Cuz you said he wasn't in college,
but you were.
>> Um, I'd have to look it up. I'm 31 right
now. Okay. He's like 35, I think, isn't
he?
>> Yeah, that sounds about right.
>> Uh, Saber Spark age. Oh, 36.
>> Okay. So, he's like 5 years older than
you were.
>> Oh my god. And the age difference, you
guys. She was literally freshly 21, you
guys. She was freshly 21 and he was 26.
Why? Why is this not being reported to
the police right now as we speak? This
is insane. I can't He can't keep getting
away with it. He can't keep getting away
with it. I'm just going to say it.
That's That's insane. That's inc. I I
can't believe it. Wow. Wow. I'm glad
that somebody's finally talking about
this. This is very serious.
>> Okay, so
what
>> this one is KP and then this one is Lazy
Bedhead. The the green circle indicates
who is speaking.
>> What was like the first like uh what was
the date or at least the year it was
that you guys actually like first met in
person? cuz like the the whole Brony's
React thing was in 2014, but you guys
were at least still talking online
through I'm assuming Skype cuz that
seems to be the only thing that
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Um so we met for um that um this video.
So I remember like there was a trailer
um for um this project and Saber was
going like we were shooting in a park
and Saber was going around in like a
pink wig and like doing a Pinkie Pie
from what I remember. So that's still up
so you can go find that. But uh that was
the our first time meeting.
>> Okay. And what year was that?
>> Um whatever the videos say. So, it looks
like it's 2014.
>> Okay. So, this is all 2014. This is
still after 2012. Okay. Um, so I I guess
this is the question I had when I texted
you originally that we got called for.
Was there anything that they
particularly without revealing too much,
was there anything that they said when
they told you this story that made you
be like, "Oh, yeah, no, this person's
telling the truth." Or,
>> um, there's a lot of things that make me
feel like they are telling the truth.
Um, I think we discussed this before,
but I had even heard I forgot, but I had
heard whispers of a conflict between
Saber and um,
>> no, I would say that she gives me p she
gives off pick me energy. That's the
energy that I would identify with her.
Um, I have to back up a second. What are
they talking about?
>> Partner over time. Um, at the time
>> AP is referring to the conflict between
Saber and Emily at the time. Emily's
partner was Soul Rack. Okay, cool.
>> Over this. So, um, but I didn't remember
the context. I wasn't I didn't know who
they were at all. Um so I don't I we
I've never met them in person to my
recollection. Um but so when they came
and they told the story, I was like, "Oh
yeah, I vaguely remember hearing
something like this."
>> Um so there was that. It was um and then
our um experiences with Saber matched up
pretty closely where he would um pose as
>> the summer after high school when we
first met. We didn't make out in your
Mustang to radio head. I thought we got
matching tattoos because I'm Dulu. I I
biffed it there. I biffed I biffed the
bit. I'm really sorry. I um I thought
that I could do that a little bit
better. I'm sorry for killing the bit,
but anyway, this [\h__\h] is crazy. Um you
guys ever hear that song Psycho [\h__\h] by
Tech9? That was actually written about
KP. Anybody? Any Tech9 fans in in chat?
Any Tech 9 fans? Should we get a little
a little sample for those who have not
experienced the joy that is Tech 9? Let
me go over to Soundcloud. Let's go over
to Soundcloud really. Really quick
>> like that. This song was written about
KP Psycho [\h__\h] Great song. Tech 9.
Also great. Also great, by the way. Love
Tech 9. You guys didn't know that I um
that uh this white boy spoke a little
rap, did you? You didn't know that?
Didn't know that.
kind of the, you know, friendly fanboy
essentially to the fans. Um, and then he
would kind of use that as a stepping
stone for like to speak romantic
intentions. So that that match between
both of us,
>> right? You said you don't remember any
specifics about like the whisper. Do you
was this cuz this whole thing where you
finally were meeting Saber happened 2
years after it initially happened. Um
when you mentioned whispers, are you
talking about like was this ever like in
discussion ever or
>> um without giving too much away um my
generalized um friend group and um the
the partner were just were discussing it
but it was stuff I overheard not stuff I
was directly told from my remember yeah
I was at least 2016 2017 um stuff was so
um yeah um hard to remember but I don't
think I was ever told directly it was
just kind of like a he said she said
kind of thing because as the assumption
is going right now Saber assumed had
consent to do it and it was consensual
and he didn't understand why the the
partner was mad at the time.
>> Okay. So, you mentioned he said, she
said and he having like a consent thing.
So, would the whispers have been like
were the whispers directly like an
actual rape accusation or just like a
sexual encounter he had that like with
like a whisper?
>> Um, a little bit of both. So, so that
was the confusing part. And I also I
thought it was confusing that they were
like talking about at a con of all
places. Um, so it kind I kind of didn't
know enough and it was kind of like it's
not my business cuz I don't know, you
know, uh, if that makes any sense.
>> Yeah. Was it just none of your
>> a little bit of both. So, so that was
the confusing part. And I also I thought
it was confusing that they were like
talking about it a con of all places.
Um, so it kind I kind of didn't know
enough and it was kind of like it's not
my business cuz I don't know, you know,
if that makes any sense.
>> Yeah. Was it just none of your business
because like it's in regards to
somebody's sex life and you're like ah
that's weird. I don't know why we're
talking about this kind of thing. that
um we I wasn't I like I was only um like
on friendly terms with Saber for about a
year or so. So, I wasn't really talking
to him. Like we obviously ran into each
other a lot because we was both doing
the brony um con scene essentially, but
it was just kind of like cordial. We
didn't really hang out
>> um that kind of thing. So, um and then
the partner I knew better, but you know,
it seemed like it wasn't my business to
be like debating that um regardless. So,
>> Okay. Gotcha. Um, what was it that like
made you like cuz I saw somewhere like
back in 2023? I don't I think the
controversy was around the whole Benty
thing or whatever the hell um with Saber
Spark when he made that whole Blue
Ripoff thing and you mentioned that like
that whole situation doesn't surprise
you cuz you don't like Saber like you
don't think he's a good guy. Was that
like in relation to that or were there
other things that made you be like I
don't like this person. Um is that
something I tweeted because I honestly
don't remember. It was in 2023. Um, it
got archived on Reddit ord something
like that because people were talking
about like Sabers Spark said that like
he couldn't cancel his Ben key
subscription when he made the Chip Chill
video or something. Um, and people were
mad at him for that because it's like
why didn't you just pirate it and it
just seems like you're giving your money
to a hateful organization that you're
criticizing as hateful. So that was that
was the context of it. And you said
something along the lines of like this
doesn't surprise me. I don't know if you
got added or something but like you're
like that doesn't surprise me. Saber
doesn't was um not I won't like
basically was like I won't get into too
much details but from my recollection
Saber's not a good person sort of thing.
>> Um yeah. Um, I didn't know about the
this like the pard rate stuff until u
relatively recently in the
>> about the what rape stuff? What?
>> Um, I didn't know about the this like
the hard rate stuff until u relatively
recently in the
>> the hard rape stuff. Is there a not hard
version of rape? What? I didn't know
about like the really the really
hardcore rape until later. What? What is
going on, bro? What is going on, bro? I
don't know why she does like this off
the cuff [\h__\h] I've said it before and
I'll say it again a million times. Okay.
If you're somebody that does like
scripted content, you should probably
just just like stick to that. Like you
should do like a scripted response
because unfortunately what we what we
have accidentally created here is um is
that we're just like shooting from the
hip. We haven't thought about any of
this. We haven't we haven't thought
about any of this. You know what I mean?
>> Uh okay.
>> Production of the video, but I think we
talked about that a little bit. Um the
timeline of that. So, um it was in
relation to um how he treated me and um
specifically like once he started like
it was just kind of weird stuff once he
started dating Gabe sister like he I
didn't really follow it too much but
like um I know I think he'd like do
things like compare himself to Gollum
and be like I'm so lucky I have you know
you know a girl even though I look like
you know a butt essentially. Oh, I'm
think
>> guys,
what the [\h__\h] He was just so thirsty
for it. He was always like
self-deprecating. So, obviously,
obviously, you know, you guys,
obviously, you know, you guys, I had to,
you know, I just I just had to I just I
I had to I had to put the RZ on him. I
had to I had to put the RZ on him.
things like that. He got really
obsessively into that relationship from
an outsers's perspective. Like he just
stopped, you know, got in
>> Yeah. just kind of lost contact with
everyone it seemed like. Okay.
>> Um
>> with Yeah. with Gabe's sister. And then
I remember Gabe and him had some sort of
argument about it near the end when they
broke up. Um
>> but I wasn't there. This is what I was
told by him at the time. And
>> notice how she's never here for any of
this. It's like everybody is having a
conversation and she's like, "That's
crazy." And everybody's like, "Uh-huh."
And then they like go back to their
conversation. You are not the main
character. You are not that [\h__\h] KP.
You are not that [\h__\h] Stop pretending
that you are. There's a reason that
nobody ever goes to you with any kind of
like credible information because you
[\h__\h] everything up. You're like a kitten
begging to be fed. Like, you know, the
second that the sun broaches the
horizon, you're like meow meow meow meow
meow because you just want to be
involved so [\h__\h] bad. Like, I'm very
sorry that you peaked in high school,
dude, but it's it's time to move on.
it's time to move on. You are not that
[\h__\h] You are not Gossip Girl. It's
time to move on. And
>> that um the breakup had to do with her
issues, quote unquote. So, he didn't
seem to take any responsibility for the
breakup, but like, you know, it was
consensual.
>> Dude, what does that [\h__\h] um what does
that [\h__\h] mean, girls? Where it's like I
just I spend all of my time thinking
about Regina, and then the other half of
the time I keep waiting for other people
to bring her up so I can talk about her
even more. This is uh I love KP and
Saver Spark. I spend half of my time
talking about Saver Spark and the other
half of the time hoping that somebody
else will bring him up so I can talk
about him more. I can't help myself.
>> Wasn't my business. Like whatever.
>> Was he dating Gabe Sister around the
time that like you heard those like
whisper rumors or was that what that was
a relationship to or
>> I don't think he only dated Gabe's
sister for like 6 months. So I don't
think so.
>> Okay. Okay. Gotcha. So, like just cuz
I'm confused by like not to get into
specifics, but like when you said like
whispers about that like I'm just trying
to get into like a specific too much.
Was it was the rumor thing that you're
talking about like a cheating thing?
>> No, it was so like this is again so I
remember the partner and Saber kind of
discussing it at a con and this is kind
of what I overheard specifically. Um so
it was them confronting Saber because um
the rape victim felt like it was a rape
and
>> the partner was obvious
>> the rape victim felt like it was a rape.
the earth is round because it's a spear
because specifically um so it was them
confronting Saber because um the rape
victim felt like it was a rape and
>> the partner was obviously mad about that
and I'm sure Saber played it off, you
know.
>> Oh, is she still talking about Emily or
is she alleging that there is a secret
hidden rape victim? Is she t This is
like the world's most [\h__\h] up game of
telephone I've ever heard in my entire
life. This is uh
I God save me.
>> So he was confronted. That's what that
was. Oh, okay. So Okay, that would make
sense cuz um
>> also evidence who was there, who did the
confronting? Like this [\h__\h] has been
lying and you're just going to believe
her, Lazy Badhead. You're just going to
believe her. You're not going to ask for
logs. You're not going to ask for
screenies. You're not going to ask for
anything. You're just like, "Oh, yeah,
people were talking about it. Yeah,
100%." Like, have we learned nothing? If
you cannot source allegations of such
incredible strength that somebody is a
dangerous rapist, if you cannot
substantiate these allegations, shut the
[\h__\h] up. And you are a bad person. You
are an enabler. You are a rape enabler
by proxy because you do not challenge
it. Somebody's like, "Oh, this person
was out here raping like crazy. I just
heard at the, you know, through the
grape vine the other day. And you go,
"Oh, that's crazy." No, you are just as
guilty in that. Ask for logs. Who are
all these people that were sitting
around the campfire telling spooky
stories about rape? What are you [\h__\h]
talking about? This is nuts. Lazy bed. I
know that lazy is in your name, but you
couldn't do Are you serious right now?
From the what was it? Who was that?
Jessup girl or whatever the hell and Amy
that was also on Twitter of Blue Sky or
something. And they said that like this
person told them about this back in 2013
or something. like they opened up in
2013 I believe. Okay. So then at the con
which would have been 2014 I'm assuming
is when this
>> Oh well my friend of a friend of a
friend whose cousin sister twice remove
survived uh the bombing of Pearl Harbor.
Well they were there and they said that
it was true. It's like can can anybody
can anybody substantiate [\h__\h]
anything ever? This is insane. You are
accusing somebody of rape
and everybody is eating this [\h__\h] up
because it's it's KP. You guys are so
dumb. Everybody in this is so [\h__\h]
stupid. This is why This is why, by the
way, I said that lazy that lazy bedhead
was a two-faced snake. That's why I said
that. That's why I said that. That's why
I said that this whole time. It's like
we're just yes queening each other into
the [\h__\h] sunset. It's two [\h__\h] in
a call for two hours going exactly back
and forth. That's the whole call. I'm
telling you right now. Was
>> it was one Babcon one time. So, um I
think it was my first Babscon. So, that
sounds about right. Um, so, um,
>> was 20 was Bab's gone at 2014 or was
that the year after that?
>> Um, I think it was I think it was that
it must have been 2015 then. So yeah, it
was after we had our our friendship,
whatever you want to call it.
>> Okay. So, it would have been 2 years
after they started telling close people
about it. Okay, that makes sense. Okay,
so just timeline thing. Um, Saber had
this had two instances in 2012 that he
thought were consensual but apparently
weren't. um victims started opening up
to people in their life around 2013 and
then in 2015
>> singular person in their life. Mind you,
there was only been a claim that it was
one person that made a public statement.
And again, mind you, these these
allegations are from 2013.
Do you do you guys remember every social
interaction you had in 2013? I can't
even remember what [\h__\h] day of the
week it is. And you expect me to
remember details of event, very specific
details enough to make an allegation
against, you know, they just randomly
came to me while I was like taking a
[\h__\h] in the morning. I was like, "Oh my
[\h__\h] god." That's right. In 2013,
that [\h__\h] Jessica did steal my Nintendo
DS. I knew it. And then she killed my
Nintendo dogs. Oh my [\h__\h] god. I
should tell somebody about this. Like,
what are you talking about? Yeah, this
is all hinged on secondhand information
that was word of mouth traveled around
in 2013.
2013. What was the top Billboard song in
2013? Let's feel old, guys. What was the
top Billboard song in 2013? Everybody
ready to feel old as [\h__\h]
Oh god.
The number one uh Billboard end of the
year Hot 100 number one song from 2013
was Thrift Shop by Mackore
and Blurred Lines by Robin Thicki or
Robin Thick, however the [\h__\h] you say
that. I can't read.
Do you guys feel old? Do you guys feel
old? I feel like the [\h__\h] crypt
keeper. I feel like the [\h__\h] crypt
keeper right now.
The [\h__\h] crypt keeper right now. This
was when Mr. Worldwide was still Mr.
Worldwide. And you guys are gonna you
guys are going to [\h__\h] tell me that
we expect people to recall very minute
details of these events from 2013 when
Thrift Shop was released. You guys
thrift shop. Uh there was that whole
confrontation you overheard. Uh, but you
specifically only really knew Saber
around 2014 for AC best race whole video
and that thing.
>> AC best race. No. Um, yeah. So, like we
were introduced because we we realized
we lived together. So, we not lived
close enough for to drive. Um, so he he
um so I guess that's I don't remember
the specifics, but that's how the the
trailer for um generation 3 was decided
because we could both shoot it together.
Um like so um
>> yeah, but again like my thing wasn't
really like it wasn't anything like
rape. I just thought he was like kind of
playing me along.
>> Oh, I very brave of KP to see that say
that she wasn't raped. That's very brave
of her to come out and say I'm glad that
she's she's speaking on this now.
Everybody was really confused
>> a little bit. Um but it, you know, so
>> he was playing you a little bit. Girl,
you are [\h__\h] delusional. You are
[\h__\h] delusional. You belong in a
[\h__\h] padded room, dude. Like not
everybody who is nice to you wants to
smash. You weren't being strung along.
You weren't, you know, he wasn't playing
you. Like the like not every man is
romantically or sexually interested in
you. I hate to break it to you. Like
this is just nuts. This is what happens
to women who spend too much time online.
We talk a lot We talk a lot about, you
know, what terminally online behavior
looks like in men. We talk a lot about
that. We don't talk enough about what
that does to women. It gives women the
most insane inflated ego that I've ever
seen in my entire life. Because when
you're in a Discord server with like 800
sweaty dudes and you're the one girl,
like they will all literally kill each
other for your attention. Okay, you
don't know what an ego is until you are
the only girl in a Call of Duty lobby.
Okay, you have no idea what that's like
to get unlimited attention. It's It's
like a drug. It's like It's like a crack
high that you will never get from
anything else. Okay, it's incredible.
It I can't I cannot I cannot begin I
cannot begin to explain how annoying it
is that every single person that has
ever disliked KP is like, "Oh, well,
they were just leading me on and they
were just mad that I didn't want to
fuck." It's so annoying. It's so [\h__\h]
annoying. It's like I just kind of
chocked it up to like, you know, maybe
he's just, you know, I don't know.
Actually, I don't know. I guess like
>> weirdo. Like, why is he only like it was
naive of me, I guess, to think that
maybe like we were we could just be
friends. But to be fair, I also have a
lot of guy friends um as well.
>> They were friends for like a year and a
half. They were good friends. They were
friends. I'm going to [\h__\h] crash out,
dude.
>> But um but yeah, like that's Yeah. Yeah.
Did he like ever give you like I guess
this is a weird question cuz you keep
saying that like the way that he like
went about asking. I guess I can check
back in the
>> Dude, you guys are never going to
believe this. Whenever I go to the strip
club like every single one of the
strippers really wants to date me. No,
it doesn't have I'm It doesn't have
anything to do with the fact that I like
tip them or whatever or like pay like
they they are actually genuinely into
me. Like that the way that they look at
me when I'm talking about my special
interest, they really like me. I'm I'm
serious. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I've given
them like $100 each like every night,
but they really like me for me. I'm
being serious. Like you guys don't
believe me, but she's really they're
they're all really into me. Seriously,
they all really like me as a person.
Genuinely,
>> chat what you said
about that. I'm trying to look back at
what it is. I like have it shrink down.
Um
during that time, yeah, it's so much
easier for me to remember [\h__\h] I mean,
I have an okay memory. It's just not
fantastic. So, it says to clarify during
this time he would ask questions like we
are just friends, right? Like that seems
so weird to like kind of randomly bring
up. Was that just kind of his flirtation
style or something where he would just
kind of drop in? Yeah. Like you know
what I mean? like that that reads to me
like somebody who doesn't know how to
flirt or something.
>> Um yeah, I think what happened um and my
parents have met Saver Spark, which is
great. So like I I' I've been able to
describe this.
>> My parents have met Saber Spark. Oh,
hi mom. This is the the Bron um YouTuber
that I've been spending all my time
with. Don't mind the smell. What the
[\h__\h] Oh god. Oh god. My mom would kill
me. My mom would kill me. My mom would
my mom would literally die if I
explained to her what a brony was. I
think my mom would spontaneously combust
>> this as like remember Stephen that guy
that came over the house one time. Um no
I mean this is kind of a side thing but
like um we were having like chicken that
night. I don't really like my dad's
chicken. Um and and he was like I'm just
going to take the littlest piece ever
because he was trying to be I guess
overly polite and my dad is like what
the [\h__\h] is he doing? Like just take the
just take chicken. So um yeah kind of
weird but yeah um that's how it would um
he'd phrase it. So, he asked me that
like two or three times um via Skype. Um
>> and I didn't think anything of it. I
thought like, "Okay, that's a fair
question. Like, let's put some
boundaries in." But I remember like when
we went out like um he'd um he'd really
offered to buy buy like whatever it was
or whatever. So, I guess again I was
stupid about that, too. But what are you
going to do?
>> I mean, that could also just be like a a
chivalry thing where it's just like
men's got to be.
>> Yeah,
>> he was just being chivalous, you guys.
So, this is literally delusional.
Somebody holds the door open for me and
I'm like, "Oh my god, they want to get
married."
Oh my god. Somebody said Somebody said
thank you to me at the grocery store.
They must want to [\h__\h] so bad, dude.
This is insane.
This is insane. And again, this is from
like this is from like
thrift shop era, bro. This is so long
ago. How do you remember this? There are
things that I remember from 2013, but
this this level of like detail. Jesus
Christ.
>> Yeah. Um, yeah, that's what I assumed.
Or he was just trying to be like
establish a good business relationship
too by like and he, you know, he knew I
was in college. I didn't have any money
kind of thing, too. So, there could have
been a multiple things, but like what I
thought was setting boundaries from the
beginning was actually him just trying
to kind of poke at me to see if I was
willing to to change my mind.
>> Gotcha. Okay. So, when that whole thing
with the Chris thing happened, uh, just
to clarify, was he like super good
friends with Chris or anything, or was
he just kind of like,
>> oh, here we go.
>> Going off on you for something else cuz,
>> okay, quickly, Chris and Da Games were
was like the original target of KP's,
uh, Hit Piece video, but conveniently
uh, the Saber Spark allegations were
included because she was working in the
background with several people to
include the Saber Spark allegations
because she wanted to beef up her video,
obviously. Okay, the Chris thing is so
Chris worked for like DA games. Um,
Chris was like another like small like
all these people at the time were like
quoteunquote small YouTubers and they
were all doing like YouTube [\h__\h]
together. Okay. Um, Chris and KP shared
a hotel room together when they went to
some [\h__\h] brony convention. Um, Chris
made up a rumor that he jerked off into
KP's underwear. Apparently, this was
like a joke. I don't get the joke to be
completely honest with you. I think it
was like, you know how how you'll be
like, "Oh, yeah. I went to third base at
prom, but you didn't actually like that
kind of thing. I don't know why it would
be um I don't know why it would be like
[\h__\h] in somebody's underwear. That's
kind of weird. But nonetheless, that
that is how the story goes. Chris told
this joke to like three people in
private. He never told it to Saber
Spark. Um KP presented this in her
original video. Like Chris actually did
this. Like he did actually jerk it into
her panties, but it didn't actually
happen. It was like a a locker room talk
like rumor that Chris started for some
stupid [\h__\h] reason. And she uses this
endlessly to attack Sabers Spark because
she'll say like, "Uh, Chris edited for
Sabers Spark or like did some work for
Sabers Spark or something like that."
And KP is like, "Uh, I'm attacking
Sabers Spark because he's keeping
company with my quote unquote abuser or
whatever the fuck." And the abuser is
told a shitty joke like [\h__\h] more
than 10 years ago and that he should be
fired now from his current, you know,
position of employment because of a
shitty joke that he made, you know, more
than 10 years ago with with a company
that he doesn't even he doesn't work at
anymore. Crazy,
crazy, dude. Crazy, dude. Crazy work.
Crazy work.
>> Um I mean I I don't know what the
relationship is like now, but I do
remember um because Saber did an like
Chris interviewed Saber at some point
and and Chris you like not you, but he
got contacted um with Saber through me
and uh I remember Saber complaining
about him at the time. Maybe his opinion
has changed. Um
>> Saber complained about Chris.
>> Mhm.
>> Oh, okay. I just find that so weird that
he would be then so defensive when with
the whole Twitter thing that you showed.
I think it was more I think that
>> I would be super defensive too if
somebody had like messaged me and they
were like, "Hey, just so you know, uh,
Cesa [\h__\h] 58 years ago
said lesbbo in a derogatory way. You
should do something about this." I'd be
like, "15 years ago, Girly Pop, I don't
know what to tell you. I don't know. 15
years ago, I don't care." That's crazy.
That's crazy. That's crazy. I
I'm going to blow [\h__\h] up for this
person. I'm going to start I'm going to
cause a stink now 15 years later after
the fact.
Literally deranged behavior. Actually
[\h__\h] insane. It's insane.
>> That was more of a reputational thing.
And he was like, "Oh, well, you never
brought me this directly, so I'm being
blindsided by it. How could you?" When I
when I knew that wasn't true.
>> Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. Cuz from the
from the way that it looks like in the
actual like Twitter thing, uh like did
someone like tag Sabers Spark or
something and then we got involved? I
purposely didn't tag Saber because Saber
was like a footnote in that that email
anyway. Um, and so the the the
context around that was um just to be
just to be clear. So I because of my
personal experiences, I did not feel
comfortable going to Saber Directly to
talk about Chris. So I am
>> 15 years ago I uh I snapped a
PlayStation 3 controller in half because
I got killed one kill away from a nuke
um in Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2.
This is uh true Malcolm lore, by the
way. You know, you know the map. It was
Modern Warfare. I think it was Modern
Warfare 2. Modern Warfare 2 or three. It
was high-rise. You know, where you're
like on the roofs of the building, like
you're on the roof of a building,
there's an apartment building here, an
apartment building here, and then you
play like right here. Um, there was a
glitch where on this building, you could
get off the side of the building and
then like jump and then like do this
weird glitch where you could actually
get on top of this apartment building.
But there was a propane tank on top of
that. So, normally, you know, you spawn,
you throw a Sim tech up there, blow up
the [\h__\h] propane tank, and then you
get up there, and then you can just like
destroy everyone because nobody knows
that you're up there. It's like a
glitched spot. Um, I forgot to blow up
the propane tank before I went up there.
I was one kill away from a tactical nuke
and uh somebody threw a grenade up there
and got the propane tank and I I broke
my PlayStation 3 controller like in
half. Like in half. I was like, it was
it was terrible, you know, to be to be
young, you guys. to be young
>> am or was maybe at this point, but um I
I was um a couple of people that work on
his staff will remain anonymous. Um and
I was told that Chris and um Saber had a
confrontation um about it, but this was
after the call. So I think Chris
reassured him that it was handled or,
you know, was taken care of. Um but
Saber never contacted me directly to
confirm that, which I thought was kind
of weird.
>> Well, yeah, especially if he had like a
crush on you at some point like I know
at that point. Um, wait.
>> Why is Lazy Bed Head feeding into these
delusions? All the information is public
by the time that this has been published
and recorded. That this Emmy girl lied
that Emmy lied.
That she's a liar. She's a liar.
She's a liar, guys. She's a liar.
>> [\h__\h] little tail rat.
>> Like, why are we giving all of this
ground that does not need to be
conceded? What are we doing? What is
with everybody being like, I got an
interview with, you know, the person who
made the [\h__\h] hit piece on Saber
Spark. And they're just like, well, how
did you feel in the moment? It's like,
no, [\h__\h] Why did you [\h__\h] lie? Can
we get like one, you guys? I'm so I'm so
bored. I'm so bored. I know why nobody
does interviews with me. I know why.
Because I would be a [\h__\h] I completely
know why. But like, come on, you guys.
Come on. Can we get somebody who is just
like a little bit more aggressive? Like
even even um Slug Media, Slug
Entertainment, whatever the [\h__\h] Super
softball. Super softball questions.
Super boring. Super gay. Um, even if
Becket did an interview, it' be super
soft, super boring. Like, come on.
Somebody twist an arm or something. Put
somebody in an arm bar. Do the chicken
wing. Like, come on. These are all so
boring. I know. I know precisely why
none of these people would ever do like
interviews and [\h__\h] with me. I
completely understood why, but come on.
Give me something. Give me something.
>> Liar.
>> So, it doesn't say. I thought it had the
date on it. When this um Twitter
exchange happened, what year was that?
Was that like Oh, it says
>> the one where he's like the one where
he's um calling you a liar and stuff.
>> Yeah. What year was that? In 2024.
>> That was November last year.
>> [\h__\h] a crush on you in the I I find
it interesting that he would like go off
on you like this. If what you're saying
is that he
>> also I think somebody asked this in
chat. Even if Sabers Spark did have this
massive [\h__\h] crush on KP and
everybody wanted to [\h__\h] her and Sabers
Spark was literally like, "Oh my god,
I'm so in love with I love Kim Possible
a lot. She's so beautiful and gorgeous."
Um what does that do here?
What does that prove?
KP is the one that has been fanatically
going after Saber Spark. I could
understand if Saber Spark was like
taking swipes at her and it's like a
this guy's just like obsessed with me.
Like this guy just is, you know, he we
had like this weird relationship a while
ago and he's, you know, he's still kind
of upset about it or whatever. But she's
the one that's going after him.
What does the crush do? Let's just
pretend that we are all like batshit
insane. We're all Rosemary Kennedy in
the asylum together really quick. Let's
just pretend really quick that all these
people did want to [\h__\h] KP. What does
that change? It doesn't change [\h__\h]
anything. She's still a liar. She's
still a rat. She's still a weasel. She's
still a evil [\h__\h] white woman. Like
nothing has changed.
>> [\h__\h] little Towel rat had a
confrontation with Chris about it where
I'm assuming he had some conversation
about it and I like you know Chris
assured him that Yeah. Like what I
already said is
>> Right. Right. Was Chris in the same
circles as like when you and Sabre were
friends in the 2015 thing happened with
Chris. Were you in was like in the same
circles as you guys?
>> Um Chris was Chris was working for
>> What's up Jaden? Good to see you. I'm
glad that you found your way over to
YouTube chat. I don't have a multiream
plugin for uh Twitch and YouTube. I also
saw um Pon in here as well earlier. I'm
so sorry to my strongest Twitch
soldiers, but I think the Twitch era is
over you guys. I'm deeply sorry. I love
you guys so much and I really appreciate
you. Love you guys
>> for me. And then he was doing his own
thing. He I don't know if he still uses
it, but he has his own channel uh where
he reviews DVDs and [\h__\h] So, I think he
was like doing a vlog for um like that
that Babscon at the time. I don't think
he was working for me anymore, but we
were like on friendly terms. Um um so
but Chris was kind of like um not on the
same level I guess because we I think we
were community guests and Chris was just
kind of like a fan getting
>> if you guys are like average looking
white women and you feel really bad and
insecure about you know your body, your
appearance, anything like that. Find
like the sweatiest, nastiest, like
[\h__\h] most depraved uh Discord server.
Your your ego
right up. I'm serious. Nothing will
boost your ego like being a woman in a
predominantly male-dominated space where
most of those males are um offputting to
the general female population. I'm so
serious, dude. Like, if you guys need
that ego boost, if you need that
dopamine rush, go find like a
like a like a [\h__\h] Warhammer 40k
Discord server and just go in there and
be like, "Oh my god, I'm such a dumb
bimbo. I don't even know how to play
this game. I keep accidentally jumping
when I mean to shoot. Can somebody help
me play?" And then you'll never feel
more beautiful. You'll never feel more
loved, more seen, more valued. Okay. Uh,
white women out there, play your cards,
right? Okay. You could you could really,
really, really, really do wonders for
your self-esteem. Also, what's up, Grim?
How are you, bud?
>> Um, responses from people. Not that it
matters what the titles were, just kind
of like in contribution to the show and
then or the convention. And then um
um yeah, so he Chris was not in the same
social circle that um than Steven was to
my knowledge.
>> Okay. So then how did uh uh Saber Spark
and Chris eventually just like was is he
part of like his like staff or something
like is he an editor from what I'm
>> saying? Yeah, he's an editor to my
knowledge.
>> Okay, gotcha. All right, that's
wondering.
>> Yeah, I was going to say I don't know
how they they got in contact.
>> Oh, that one's full of all the trans
women do Warhammer 40k. [\h__\h] I don't
know. Valerin isn't safe. Overwatch
isn't safe. Warhammer 40k isn't safe.
D&D isn't safe. Boulders Gate isn't
safe. Are there any communities that are
free from the trans influence? Is
anywhere safe for us normal people
anymore? Can the normal people have a
space anymore? It's like trans people
just keep invading our spaces. It's
like, can we have one thing? God, come
on, guys. It's so ridiculous. DEI has
gone way too far, honestly. Like,
whatever happened to our ideologically
pure, not transgender, not LGBTQIA+
[\h__\h] spaces. Like, thank God Trump is
president. I hope that he does something
about my Warhammer 40k servers. Please.
again once Saber started making like
being more productive as far as making
content. He switched from brony guy to
cartoon guy. But I imagine Saber like
put out like, "Hey, I need editors. I'll
pay you." And he he raised his hand.
>> Was there anybody else that Saber had on
his editing staff other than Chris that
like he had issues with?
>> Um well, I wouldn't say he he had issues
with Chris. I think there was an issue
with Chris, but it didn't seem like he
particularly cared. Um not to my
knowledge, no. Um but you know, I don't
even know everyone on the staff. Like I
just know a couple people. So,
>> right. Cuz like this is unrelated. But I
was just curious cuz like I I don't know
if you know this but Saba Spark has a
Kiwi Farms. Um not that that matters cuz
the most they do over there is just kind
of [\h__\h] that he's a liberal that likes
Bluey and it's like I don't [\h__\h]
care. But they were talking about
Cosmodor at some point over there. Were
they like friends because they were in
the same circles as like Cartoon Bros or
what?
>> Yeah. Um I don't watch and have never
watched Saber's content because like I
think I sent the email quote unquote you
trigger the [\h__\h] out of me. So um a lot
of the I mean to to be blunt like you
know you feel like you're friends with
someone but then they only want to get
in your pants. It will kind of like make
you mad at them. Um
>> sure. Um, but
like you're the first one that's brought
that up and I was expecting um that to
be brought up sooner, but I guess that
just shows you how bad the [\h__\h] video
was. But yeah, I think I don't know the
details. I just know what the public
knew. He was an editor as well, I think,
for for Steven. Um, he he got fired
because of creepy things. So, I that's
why when my original assumption dealing
with all this is that Chris would be
fired immediately because he would be a
PR problem. Um,
>> yeah. Why would he be a PR problem for a
joke that he made [\h__\h] 15 years ago
that he told in private to a select few
number of people? Like, nobody would
even know that he told this [\h__\h] joke
if you didn't talk about it. Like, I
don't understand. This doesn't make any
[\h__\h] sense to me. This doesn't make
any [\h__\h] sense to me. Like, this is
like an incredible This is like an
incredible vendetta. This is like a
thirst for blood that I've never seen
before in my life. There have been
people that have said insanely [\h__\h] up
[\h__\h] to me. There are people that say
insanely [\h__\h] up [\h__\h] to me today.
Like I
How do you run on pure vengeance like
that? Don't you get tired? Don't you get
bored? Like I don't understand.
I'm trying to think of like the meanest
thing that somebody ever said to me when
I Oh, I can think of one. This You guys
will think this is funny. Uh there was
this girl in high school that told me
that I looked like um the the like the
mutated child of a lima bean and a
gorilla. And I was like, "That's really
the best that you got?" I mean, okay,
like hook queen, I suppose. But like,
whatever. That's the best you got. What
if I what if I like just now remember
this like in a PTSD like that's so Raven
and I'm like and then I find this [\h__\h]
and I call her job and I'm like uh this
person has a PR problem because uh they
said that I look like a lima bean in
high school.
What? Dude, that's [\h__\h] insane.
That's I don't I don't understand that
level of vengeance. I truly don't
I truly don't I don't even know what it
meant. It wasn't even a good one. It
wasn't even a good one. There have been
some people that have said some really
evil [\h__\h] to me and it's like creative
and I I give I give credit where credit
is due. Okay, if it is creative, I don't
care how offensive it is. I think it's
funny. Okay, like the the Malcolm in uh
in the middle of transition, that was
[\h__\h] hilarious. Um the the baked
potato IQ thing is [\h__\h] so funny. Um
if it's a good insult, it's a good
insult, dude. But everybody's just like
dumb [\h__\h] or like you're ugly. And it's
like come on, you can do better than
that. You can do better than that. Like
even even Lia, okay? And I don't mean to
set the bar so low, but like can he say
anything other than kill yourself? Like
if he could come up with a creative
insult, I even gave him a free one the
other day. I said, "Why don't you just
tell me and go in scissors since we're
both lesbians?" That would have been so
funny. And that one was free. I would
have laughed so [\h__\h] hard at that.
That would have been hilarious, dude.
That would have been so [\h__\h] funny.
But no. No. We got to hit him with the
like get a job, kill yourself,
you're talentless.
Like, say say something new. Like say
anything different, dude. It's so
boring. It's like be creative with it.
Be creative with it. And I even I even
gave that insult. I even gave that
insult. I gave that insult specifically
where it was like, "Oh, well, why don't
you guys go lesbian together or
something? Scissor me timbers." That
would have been so [\h__\h] funny, dude.
I would have like fell out of my chair
from laughing so hard. It would have
been so [\h__\h] funny. But instead, we
have all this [\h__\h] boring,
get a job.
>> And so, DA Games had to check if Chris
was still employed by Saber, and Saber
said yes. And
>> Malcolm has all the IQ of a baked
potato. So, no, I don't think so. If h
is real, this is what it will be like.
>> I agree.
>> Listening to narcissistic white in a
>> uh very true. Everybody witness the
bean.
>> The only thing that would make this
worse is if uh Ponder Sprocket was in
here. That's the only thing that would
make it make it worse. That's the only
thing that would make it worse to be
completely honest with you. And if you
guys want to roast me, you can. I think
it's funny. I There's nothing that you
can say to me. I haven't said six inches
away from the mirror, dog. It's not
gonna bother me. Okay. Um I still I
still would like to orchestrate a roast
of Sai. I would still like to
orchestrate that. For whatever reason,
Sai seems scared. Sai seems uh I think
Sirean. All right, let's keep listening
to uh white women yapping you guys.
>> And that was the context for that that
season desist is they check to see cuz I
was like, "Oh, he like Saber fired him."
And then um Dia Games is like, "No,
actually not." And I was just like, "Oh,
that's that's disappointing."
>> Okay, I got you. So, when it comes to
like Saber and DA Games, I guess I don't
really understand cuz DA Game for me is
all has always just been like, "Oh,
that's a a YouTube channel that's ran by
a couple people." Are they like some
sort
>> Oh, I bet that the the little the little
uh goal got clapped because it said
lesbian. I bet that's why I didn't
censor it. My bad.
>> of like LLC that's like works in tangent
with Saber or something? Like is Saber
under like any sort of contract with
them or they are they just like in the
same like work circles or something?
>> Um I well the the connecting factor is
Chris. So, the originally the video was
about Chris and then Saber would have a
footnote saying, "Oh, we told Saber he
got fired. Cool." That was that was
supposed to be it cuz that's what I
assume would happen with Saber. Um, but
I don't think they have any I don't
think they have a working relationship
at all. I know DA Games has an LLC and I
think they they have four members of the
channel. I think that was covered a
little bit in the video, but um I don't
think they work with each other 10 times
gently. But, um, the difference is that
um I don't think um Chris has a presence
on Saber Sparks whatever stuff, but he
has a presence in the DA game stuff.
he's on camera. They they'll do like
let's plays where he's on camera, you
know, based on the footage we had to
get. So,
>> okay. So, before you decided to have
like the feature of this victim's
testimony, right? Like cuz you got this
information like later in production,
right? Like we I think we discussed
March or something. Is that from the
last call?
>> Um, yeah, that sounds that sounds about
right. I think I started talking late
February, early March. Yeah, but I Yeah.
>> Gotcha. So, so before you had this
person's testimony, I'm getting reverb.
That was weird. before you got this
person's testimony, your entire video
was originally just supposed to be about
DA Games. And was Saber supposed to be
more like a side like a little side
piece to that? Because like without the
victim's testimony, the mass major the
majority of what you have in front of
you to work with that ties Saber into
all of this is just that he was like an
[\h__\h] on Twitter. Like not to seem
rude in that sort of assumption, but
>> No, no, I got you. I got you. So, well,
yeah, let me be clear. So, the the stuff
with DA Games, I guess just to be clear,
was things like sharing lollycon in
places they had access that children had
access to. Um, like the testimony in the
video about Chris telling a beastiality
story to a minor or a joke or like
flirting with her? I think
>> all like all of these things are bad.
Yes. But was ev evidence ever provided
of these these allegations or were these
just like um
or were the was this just like all
secondhand like word of mouth? Because
it sounds like all of these allegations
just came from a really [\h__\h] shitty
um a really [\h__\h] shitty game of
telephone. That's what it all sounds
like. Like,
is there evidence of any of this stuff?
Has any of this ever been [\h__\h]
documented? Or is this just like
hearsay?
Because to my understanding, a lot of
this is just hearsay. It's kind of like
we're just like stacking allegations to
try to make somebody look, you know, as
bad as possible.
Is it the DA game server? Uh, it's
definitely unhinged, but there there's
some evidence, but nobody cares about
that part of the video because of how
bad the video was. Um, I can agree with
that certainly. Like if if there are
legitimate allegations of this kind of
stuff, I think if I remember correctly
when I watched the original video, I
think I said the the same thing that
like maybe there is stuff in here that's
worth looking into or like worth
criticizing or worth bringing um
attention to. But why would you ruin
your your hit piece with just adding
literally everything that you could
possibly think of? And then it's really
[\h__\h] disappointing that Lazy Bedhead
isn't asking for evidence of any of
this. She's just kind of like nodding
and, you know, bobbing along. I don't
I don't understand that. I I don't get
how how we're not asking for any kind of
evidence for any of this stuff. I don't
understand. I don't understand any of
it. Did I look at the dog? No. I watched
KP's video. That was her her magnum
opus. If it's not in there and it wasn't
presented in an appropriate way, that's
her failing, not mine.
>> Or something like that. Um and then um
the grooming that was in the BA game
space that they refused to um to to to
do anything about from from my
knowledge.
>> Okay. So that your original video was
mostly just about DA game. So this is
how I'm seeing it, right? Cuz I made a
video with the Black Griffin stuff and
my whole thing with even including
Sabers Spark was just like to showcase
well he defended him for one, but also
it was more so like the main focus
should be DA Games, but because people
asked Sabers Spark, he he replied and
that was more to show up. Not to say
he's as bad as you know, Black. No, it
was collaborated specifically that the
Saber Spark allegations would be
included in this because that was what
would get people to click on this video.
>> But to say that that's a little
hypocritical. What when you went into
the DA Games thing and saw that Saber
Spark was tangentially kind of involved
through defending Chris, was that
supposed to be like before you learned
the victim's testimony was like, "Oh,
this is an example of Saber Spark
defending creepy behavior and that's
hypocritical kind of thing."
>> Um, yeah. on top of the um like well I
mean he like from from the knowledge
that I know he talks openly about how he
doesn't defend lollycon and thinks it's
disgusting. Um Chris was sharing
lollycon on top of the sexual harassment
story which which Saber never asked me
about for whatever reason. Um
>> because he didn't know about it. Oh my
god. It's been said ad nauseium that
Chris never told the story to Saber
Spark. Even in the call that was
recorded that Chris didn't even know was
happening where he was like, "Yeah, I
told this really [\h__\h] up joke and it
was my bad or whatever the [\h__\h] I
shouldn't have done that and I'm sorry
and I haven't done it again or whatever
the [\h__\h] He even says specifically
Saberspark never knew about it. I never
told him about it. He wasn't in, you
know, the group of guys that I was
talking to at the time. He never knew
about it.
Like I I don't understand this at all.
This is
white women are evil, dude.
>> But he about it, but he never got your
statement on it.
>> He never No, he just took Chris out his
word for it that it was handled and
>> Okay.
>> Yeah. Because you're [\h__\h] crazy.
You've been following this guy around
for like 15 [\h__\h] years being like,
"Don't you want to [\h__\h] me?" Yeah, dude.
I would I would probably assume that
everything you said was [\h__\h] as
well, truthfully. Like, it's un it's
unreal.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. I'm getting the the indication
that this video before the accusations
obviously was supposed to be more so
like a showcase of more hypocrisy on
Saber Sparks end.
>> Yeah. And then the issue of
>> how was it hypocrisy if you never
[\h__\h] knew about it, dude?
And again, I I said this before and I I
mean it truthfully, like this is this is
what we're dealing with is like we don't
want an apology. Like the the thing is
is like the reason that online cancel
culture exists is a piggyback or a
splinter off of the Me Too movement.
What was the Me Too movement? The Me Too
movement was a way for people to get
accountability for people in positions
of power who were not, you know, taken
to task for the bad things that they had
done. where, you know, people had gone
through the proper channels, they had
alerted the proper people, and nothing
was still done about it. So, there was a
call for public accountability. If
nothing else would work, this is what
they had to turn to, right? Think like
Harvey Weinstein, like [\h__\h] like that,
right? Um,
that is the purpose of me too. That is
the purpose of the kind of like public
flogging that you see with like
accountability culture, especially
online, because a lot of the people that
get quote unquote called out online,
they're not particularly doing anything
illegal. They're just being like [\h__\h]
freaks, right? Like you can look at um
think of like your favorite low. I don't
even know. Like think of your favorite
low. Um like uh uh [\h__\h] I can't even
think of anybody right now off the top
of my head. Most of these people are
just being like freaks on the internet,
right? Like they're they're not doing
anything particularly illegal. Um the
the public call out is to bring
awareness to these kinds of things. So
like for example, the joke that uh Chris
told, not illegal, but maybe people
would want to know about that. Sure. But
what is the purpose of that call out?
The purpose of that call out is one,
accountability, two, changed behavior,
and three,
that's it. But what everybody wants is
like a pound of flesh. They don't want
accountability or change behavior or
anything like that. Because Chris said
in the call that he had with KP, the
quote unquote private call that was
recorded without his consent, is that he
made the joke. He shouldn't have made
it. He's sorry that he made it. he told
KP everybody that he told it to and that
he's explained it away from since then
and that he's never engaged in that
behavior again. That's exactly what you
want to see from these kinds of things,
right? If you bring something to
somebody's attention and you call
somebody out for it and they change
their behavior, there's nothing more
that you can ask of them. So to to use a
very loose example, um if somebody has
like a Discord server and in the Discord
server people are posting freak [\h__\h]
but it's brought to their attention that
you know somebody is underage in the
Discord server and they either kick out
the minor or they ban NS NSFW content in
their Discord server altogether. The
issue is resolved. It was called to
their attention. They apologized and
they changed it and it's not happening
again. That's what you want to see. That
is the desired outcome. KP got her
desired outcome. She got her apology.
She got a public apology, a private
apology. She got changed behavior. She
got everything that she could have ever
desired from this this situation and it
wasn't enough. She wanted blood. And
that's why for the most part online
cancel culture is [\h__\h] cancer because
that's what people want a pound of
flesh. They don't want like reasonable
accountability because reasonable
accountability is somebody says
something [\h__\h] up. You say, "Hey, you
know, this person is saying this crazy
shit." They say, "Oh [\h__\h] like that was
really inappropriate of me to say. I'm
sorry. I'm not going to do it again."
And then they don't do it again. And
that's the end of the conversation. But
that's not enough for people like KP.
That's not enough for, you know, the the
[\h__\h] lynch mob that is the [\h__\h]
internet and these people that like
thrive on negative attention. And it's
disgusting because Chris made a [\h__\h]
up joke 15 [\h__\h] years ago and still
apologized for it.
It's crazy. It's insane. She wants him
fired from his job over a joke that he
made 15 years ago to somebody who wasn't
even involved. It's It's insane. It's
actually deranged behavior.
Institutional levels of derangement. um
the Twitter thread where he was
basically morality shaming me, but he he
didn't know like I think I think
morality the whole reason Saber even
knew about Chris's um the the sexual
harassment stuff was because I told his
staff and he did not make the connection
that um that this like I was the one who
told the staff. This was just something
that was going around. Uh because we did
release a safety report about Chris um
and um you know didn't like yeah I think
it's in the Twitter thread I said
several times like we can DM about this
like let's not like
>> and then this is the other thing that's
really [\h__\h] stupid as well is that KP
like blew this [\h__\h] up on Twitter in
public and then when Saber Spark
responded she was like oh we can talk in
DMs. No the [\h__\h] you can't. If you want
to drag it out in public it's going to
be resolved in public. If you have an
issue with somebody and then you you try
to squash it in private, that's one
thing. But if somebody makes a huge
[\h__\h] call out post about you and you
respond publicly and they're like, "Oh,
DM me about it." It's like, "No, [\h__\h]
you. You started this. You started
this." No, you already made it public.
It's going to continue to be public. I
just I I'm getting like PTSD flashbacks
from watching the original video. I hate
this.
>> Let's not do that.
>> And we're only half an hour in do it
this way. And then he kind of refused.
So,
>> Gotcha. Okay. I see. Okay.
>> Yeah. What's the morality shaming? Let's
go back a little bit.
>> I told his staff and he did not make the
connection that um um supposed to be
more so like a showcase of more
hypocrisy on Saber Sparks end.
>> Yeah. And then the issue of um the
Twitter thread where he
>> was basically morality shaming me, but
he he didn't know like I think I think
that
>> the whole reason Sabre even knew about
Chris's um the the sexual harassment
stuff was because I told his staff and
he did not make the connection that um
that this like I was the one who told
the staff. This was just something that
was going around. Uh because we did
release a safety report about Chris um
and um you know didn't like yeah I think
it's in the Twitter threaded I said
several times like we can DM about this
like let's not like let's not do it this
way and then he kind of refused. So
>> Gotcha. Okay. I see. Okay. So right. So
my assumption in that is correct is that
this was supposed to be more of a
showcase of him being a hypocrite again
kind of thing.
>> Yeah. And using his um platform to
gaslight.
>> Gotcha.
>> Use his platform to gaslight lazy
bedhead. You stupid little [\h__\h] Can
you ask for any context for any of this?
And again, this has been hashed out in
public. We know for a fact. We know for
a fact that KP was the one that started
this public thing. She started the
public fight. She started that. I don't
>> So when you did like,
>> am I getting whatever.
>> Oh, I should add too, um, that was
originally the tone for the the piss on
the moon bit. So I didn't think Saber
was like he wasn't guilty of like
anything too bad at the time when we
conceived that. It was just kind of him
not really being not taking his
responsibilities of being Chris's boss.
Um, seriously,
>> the responsibility of being someone's
boss means that if they made a stupid
joke 15 [\h__\h] years ago, um, that you
have to basically crucify them um, in
the main office, like in the break room,
you know, while everybody's eating their
donuts, you have to do like the Passion
of the Christ in front of everybody.
That's the only thing that will satiate
these people.
>> Seriously. Um, on top of the Twitter
stuff.
>> Gotcha. Okay. All right. Um, so I I had
to ask this, right? Because like
obviously you're very interconnected in
all of this in terms of like you used to
know these people, right? You used to at
least consider them friends. Did that
ever like did you ever think that that
should have at least deterred you from
at least trying to make this video just
because of the personal connection to
it? Cuz it might you you understand that
that could kind of make you seem a
little biased towards what you're
talking about cuz it's like, well, I
have a personal wrong. The first hard
question that we're going to ask 30
minutes into this
>> make this video just because of the Did
you ever think that that should have at
least deterred you from at least trying
to make this video just because of the
personal connection to it? Cuz it might
you understand that that could kind of
make you seem a little biased towards
what you're talking about cuz it's like
well personal wrong.
>> This was a big criticism in same
crossover episode. This was the biggest
criticism of Mr. Girl doing his report
on Destiny because the information that
Mr. Girl presented in his report against
Destiny was not wrong but because it
came from him people turned their nose
up at it. Why? because he was very
personally invested in the story. He was
personally slighted by Destiny himself
and you know it's it's Mr. Girl. It's
the cutest guy. So, nobody took it very
well. But it's like if you have an
incredibly close proximity to a certain
set of allegations, um you have to take
into consideration that your own
personal bias is going to tank your
perception, right? Because she was
sitting on, you know, the edge of the
bench like waiting for somebody to say
something negative about Saber Spark so
she could go in on it. She didn't test
the validity. She didn't check into it.
Nothing. she just took it at face value
because she wanted uh like something to
be mad about. And I think everybody's
done that before. But like if you're
going to make public exposees and public
allegations, uh yeah, you have to be
able to set that aside
against these people and now I'm getting
all of these stories like you can
showcase obviously like him being an
[\h__\h] to you on Twitter and whatever
the hell. Like that's that's a thing
that's like people can view and see, but
from your own like personal experiences,
did you not think that maybe it's like I
might be coming across as a bit biased
and that might deter like the direction
of the video?
>> Um
yeah, like no. No, not really at all. I
thought that
>> No, we don't we don't feel bad about
that.
>> This would just be another, you know,
like notch in the saber being creepy to
women bit and I should have just
explained what happened instead of just
assuming the email would tell all. But I
purpos like I think from what you saw in
the
>> the email would tell all. You mean the
[\h__\h] Karen manifesto that you sent
these people that if I saw in my email
box, I would immediately mark as spam
and delete because it was like a
uniomber manifesto. The most
unprofessional email I've ever had the
displeasure of reading. Are you [\h__\h]
kidding me? I feel like an
eight-year-old could send a more
professional sounding email than the
[\h__\h] slop that she sent. This is
insane.
Lazy is incredibly lazy. No research, no
diligence, nothing. Like, just
like KP could have just made this video
talking to herself, honestly, at this
point. It's really [\h__\h] annoying.
>> 2023 tweet. Um, I didn't really want to
go on a go public, I guess, quote
unquote, with my experiences with Saber
because they weren't criminal. He's just
kind of like,
>> "You don't have public experiences with
Saber. You are delusional. You are
delusional. You are unwell.
You are unwell. He did not want to [\h__\h]
you. That hurts. I know. I'm sorry. He
didn't want to [\h__\h] you.
What are you talking about, dude? She
wants so desperately to be involved in
everything. It's [\h__\h] embarrassing.
It's embarrassing. There's a difference
between like sitting on the outside and
commentating on something and then
actively wanting to get involved in all
of this [\h__\h] I like watching. I like
being a commentary cuck. I like being a
content cuck. I just like watching. I
don't want to be involved in any of this
[\h__\h] I think it's [\h__\h] insane.
That's why when she asked me if I wanted
the drop on her video, I was like, "No,
[\h__\h] I'll watch it when it comes out
just like everybody else. I don't want
to be involved in any of this gay [\h__\h]
Not at all. Certainly not. Don't even
talk to me about it." But like
the the incessant need to be involved in
all of this back rooms drama is
indicative of a deep insecurity and a
deep deep insecure attachment style with
all of your interpersonal relationships.
It's very sad. It's very sad to see.
>> You know, an [\h__\h] Um and you know
that's not really you know that's that's
not really you know worth me to like
talking about. I felt like so
>> sure.
>> Okay. So back to just cuz I want to uh
I'm a little curious about this because
we kind of went into detail about like
the whispers you heard before this
victim came to you. Was there any
particular reason why? Because I think
it would have helped. Maybe I'm wrong,
right? Because maybe that makes it look
it could be seen as one of two ways.
Like maybe this verifies.
>> No. KP asked if I wanted the the hot
goss on this video before she released
it and I said no. Um I'll watch it just
like everybody else when it comes out.
>> The victim story more or maybe it makes
you look more biased. I don't know. Was
there any particular reason why in your
video you never mentioned that you heard
whispers of this back in 2015 or
anything? Cuz that wasn't something that
you
>> because it's unreliable. It's hearsay.
Her entire [\h__\h] video is hearsay, but
it implicates her. She'll include
hearsay that comes from other people if
it bolsters her narrative, but she will
not include hearsay that reflects badly
on her. Um, that's the really simple
answer. That's not what she's gonna say.
That's not what she's going to say, but
that's the truth of the matter. She's
fine playing whisper with every other
[\h__\h] but if it's a whisperone that
makes her look bad, she certainly won't
include it. Certainly not. Certainly
not.
>> You said in your video,
>> um I Well, again, um the victim was
added late into the game, so we just
figured like that was the intention with
like and then it got worse. um as far as
so yeah I should have done a lot more
explaining because I just like part of
the problem with the video the many
problems with the videos I just inferred
people new information that they did not
know um so I that's a good point I
didn't think to to include that but um
but yeah but at the same time like as
>> yeah dude why would I include in my mega
nuke hit piece that all this information
is like secondhand and I heard it from
my cousin's cousin's sister twice
removed who got kicked in the head by a
horse 10 years ago why would I include
that I don't know that's so weird
>> much as I think that that could have
been a good like part of your whole
thing is like I believe this victim
because I heard whispers of this even
back then, right? And you can be more.
>> Yeah, of course. And you're like, I've
heard whispers of this back then, so I
believe this person because now now it's
like, oh, those whispers I heard back
then are now getting even more context
now that I've actually spoken to this
person and met them. But at the same
time, given that you heard whispers of
this back then, right? Uh it could,
>> I guess, for an audience be like either
>> you guys, Gilded Pooh is like
Beetlejuice. Don't say his name too many
times or he'll come running. Okay, be be
mindful. Be mindful of that. You didn't
do anything about the whispering back
then or you're or I guess it's more of
an indication that you were
>> Did I just have a stroke? Did I say
Beetleju? Did I say Beetleju? Is that
the word that I said? The gilded poo is
like Beetlejuice. You say his name or
like Bloody Mary, I guess. Feel like I'm
having a stroke. Did I say Bloody Mary
or Beetlejuice? Either way, you get the
point.
>> So interconnected into this and this was
so interpersonal that maybe you should
have let this be picked up by a third
party that wouldn't have had that bias
or something like that.
>> Um, no. I get what you mean. Um, again,
a part of another part of the video's
problem is that I was afraid it was
going to get leaked um when when people
were not ready. So, I only gave copies
to people I trust, but also that people
I trust.
>> I only gave copies to people that I
trust. KP and I talked like three times
[\h__\h] total and she was willing to
send it to me. That's a lie.
>> Pretty aware of the situation before
making the video. So, therefore, um I I
guess I can see that. Um
>> it's like a strategy thing I think I'm
thinking of in my head. Like I'm
thinking of allies here, but it could
just be overthinking it at the same
time. You know what I mean?
>> Yeah. Um, oh, um, to clarify too, um, I
can I can take ownership of this. Um, so
I knew that they slept together based on
multiple people, um, telling me it, but
I wasn't like the the the con
confrontation was my only remembering of
it being a problem. So, um, so I was the
one, this is information that I've
heard, but I was the the one who, um,
who told the victim that he lost his um,
virginity to her because that's I I
remember hearing that from another party
who was talking about it. So, it's just
a stupid game of telephone.
Somebody should She should truthfully
look into PR management. If she wants to
keep making videos and doing [\h__\h] like
this, I I highly recommend that KP looks
into into like media management or like
some kind of PR
firm, anything. I'll do it. I'll do it
for I'll do it for 1,500 bucks a month.
I'll run PR for KP. I can fix every
single one of these problems for you,
queen. The first the first order of
business as your new PR representative.
Shut the [\h__\h] up. Shut the [\h__\h] up. You
are swinging at a big dog right now,
dude. You are swinging at a big dog.
Okay? This is somebody that has the
money, the time, the energy, the effort,
and the temperament truthfully to go
after you for liel and slander.
First order of business is KP's new
social media uh manager. Shut the [\h__\h]
up. Stop doing this. Make a prepared
statement. Have everyone read it for you
and tell you what's good and what's bad
about it. And don't trust all these
[\h__\h] idiots that said that this Saber
Spark video was a good idea in the first
place. Find a new crowd. Find new people
to ask. Ask your enemies. Actually, go
out of your way and ask people that are
mad at you about the response and see if
they think it's a good enough response
or not. Like, I'm not kidding. 1,500
bucks a month, dude. I will fix this for
you. KP, I'm calling out to the ether.
1,500 bucks, I will do PR management for
you.
>> Who doesn't who don't like the victim, I
should say. So, they are pretty mad at
me right now. But
>> who is this person that told you all
this?
>> I haven't read it yet, but they they
just released a public open letter
because um
>> she talking about
>> the Oh, to get back to the some of the
the chronological stuff of the story.
So, uh when I emailed Stephen the first
time, I I sent a very neutral email that
says,
>> "Oh, Steven, they're on a first-name
basis.
>> Hey, you asked for a direct email.
here's the direct email. And he and I
waited like a week and he didn't get
back to me, which kind of pissed me off
cuz like I was just like, well, I'm
doing exactly what you wanted me to,
>> right?
>> And then um then I got more firm and um
talked about other problems I knew on
the staff, but I don't have like the
only evidence I have is staff members
telling me things. So that's what
>> Okay. So secondhand information and
hearsay, that's all that you have right
now. Cool.
>> Censoring the video.
>> That hearsay isn't enough, but the
hearsay against you more than enough
>> because I didn't think that was fair if
we didn't have concrete proof of stuff.
Um, so, um, and then his response kind
of I think I think that was obviously
that was a mistake because he had kind
of a angle to respond to saying like,
"Oh, well that's not true and that's not
true." So, you're just like talking
about things that are not true and I'm
just I don't have time for this.
>> You know that, right?
>> So, in the second email, I gave
screenshots of the people I talked to
and screenshots of them confirming that
Steven had the information in front of
him. So Steven,
>> even if he had the information, why is
it not acceptable for him for him to
say, "Okay, I've heard the leaked call
that was recorded without his consent,
by the way, which immediately gives
somebody the justification to throw it
out with a bath water because I I would
be like, I don't [\h__\h] care. That's
stupid. I don't I don't want to listen
to it." Um, but even after he heard that
conversation, he's like, "Oh, okay." So,
in the recorded call that was recorded
without his consent, by the way, um, he
said, "Yes, I told this joke. I'm sorry
that I told this joke. It was
inappropriate of me to tell this joke,
and I have not told it again since. It's
been, you know, 15 [\h__\h] years of a
squeaky clean record from this guy. We
haven't had any other allegations
floating around. It was this one thing
that you got closure for an apology for
and then he's never done it again. What
are you supposed to do as an employer?
Like honestly, I already know the
answer. She wanted him to lose
everything. That's the answer. That's
what she wanted. I completely
understand. And she wanted she The
options were like completely destroy
this guy's [\h__\h] life or this is
evidence that you're a bad person.
I hate this [\h__\h] so [\h__\h] much, dude.
I'm guessing panicked um because he
realized he could be caught in in a lie
um because the the the Twitter thread
was public, but um he took the the
thread down. He deleted it. Um I don't
know in relation to email or he maybe
it's not the best look. I don't I don't
I think it was a week after it that I
realized it was but we got immediately.
Um but um yeah, I guess I guess we're
not friends anymore, so whatever. Um do
you remember from your video? We are we
were I guess. Yeah, she unfollowed me. I
don't think we're friends anymore, but
whatever. Um, I kind of knew that going
in that I was gonna lose her as a
friend, but um, ethically I think it's
[\h__\h] up that you know you're Oh, I can
go in that I can go into that for in a
second, but um, I think Saber asked um,
Casey to kind of calm me down from a PR
standpoint and um, Casey um, I don't
think releasing those screenshots are
fair, but Casey um, told me that um, she
tried to kind of use like, oh, you know,
you can make a video about Chris, but I
don't even know why Saber needs to be
mentioned because if there's any
consequences, then my husband can lose
his job. And I'm just like,
>> I don't believe that for a second. Show
logs. Show logs of this. I don't believe
this for a second. I don't believe this
for a second. I don't believe this for a
single [\h__\h] second. Not at all. Not
even for a second. And again, mind you,
that the Saber Spark thing was thrown in
half-hazardly at the end as like a
snipe. It's so [\h__\h] annoying. Look,
lady, like, I get it. And she also
inferred things like, "Oh, you're just
like like what people are referring now
that like, oh, you did this for your
attention. You're throwing a tantrum on
on YouTube to to an audience. Like,
that's not what adults do." And I'm just
like, listen here. Um, I knew I wasn't
going to win the artic argument with
her, so I just ended on a neutral note.
Um,
>> but I think that's something that Saber
did to
>> kind of um hedge his bets regarding me
is sent Casey to talk to me. Um,
because, you know, I did try to ask her
what Saber told her directly and she
kind of kept she kept on dodging that
question. So, um,
>> like in regards to what?
>> Um, so so I proved that I had the
screenshots. He knew I was making a
video about Chris, but to his knowledge
before then he wasn't going to be
mentioned in the video. Uh the emails
can confirm that that wasn't the case
and he freaked out and I think he asked
Casey to intervene. Not sure. Um but
pretty sure um and then Casey would not
tell me what he said, but I'm sure
Steven villainized me and said, "Oh,
she's just a [\h__\h] She's going to do
this for for clout and you know, she's
going to ruin my reputation and you
know, blah blah blah blah blah
whatever." So that's what I assume
happened cuz her tone was very like you
know, this is an immature thing to do.
And I'm just like like my my gecko cuz I
had a conversation with um um one of the
people that helped me write the script
um for a long time about the ethics of
you know should we bring like bring
Saber in for something but then we kind
of realized you know he Chris is his
employee he is responsible he's
responsible for the gaslighting you know
like he doesn't get a pass because he's
my friend's husband's boss like that
doesn't like that doesn't make any sense
to me
>> right and by the time that you're having
this conversation this back and forth
like you weren't discussing just the
whole rape thing with them you were
talking specifically
>> I don't think I was aware of the rape
thing before that.
>> Okay.
>> That's a
>> So, most of your confrontations through
email with uh Casey Fish and uh Sabre
were just about the Kristoff. Did you
ever like talk to Sabre about that, by
the way?
>> Like before your video came out, did you
ever like went to him and like, "Hey, do
you ever like a
>> you know um you know in Step Brothers
where uh where where the girl is like, I
just want to roll you up into a little
ball and just shove you up my vagina."
That's that's KP to Saber Spark. And
then whenever I I feel a little tingle,
I'll know that it's you in my vagina.
Like she's so obsessed, dude. She is so
obsessed.
>> Um something to say about this or
whatever.
>> Um well, yeah, I I I can answer both
your questions. So I did talk to Casey
via Discord, not email, but I did. So I
emailed
>> Yeah. So this out of response to the
second email where he said, "Hey, I got
screenshots. Here you go." Like what I
said on Twitter. Um so um what was what
was the second question? Sorry. Well, I
was asking if um you ever actually like
before your video when you were like
putting that together and you got the
news about uh the rape thing, did you
ever talk to either of these two, Casey
or Saber about this allegation before?
>> Um
yes, without going to Casey, without
going into too much detail, but um for
the not Saber directly because I assumed
by the Twitter interaction he u was
afraid to talk to me because he was
afraid I was going to secretly record
him, which is like, you know, fair, but
uh
>> which is like fair. I mean, at least we
fell on that sword. Yes, we are a
two-faced snake rat [\h__\h] [\h__\h] Very
true.
>> [\h__\h] little towtail rat.
>> Very true. Very true. Very true.
>> Or do something with the communications
or something like that. Which like, you
know, I don't understand. Like, if he
kind of knew that going in, I don't know
why he taking like my first email more
seriously, but uh you know, whatever.
>> Because it's insane. It's actually
insane. You're lucky that he even
responded to that email. That would go
right in the [\h__\h] spam folder, bro.
Are you for real?
>> But in terms of like talking about like
the allegations that came to you from
the victim, you never did you ever
>> Oh, no. No, no, I never confronted Sabre
about the the rape allegations. Um she
um excuse me, they are very afraid of
Saber, so they're very afraid that he's
going to like he obviously knows who it
is, but um you know, he he's going to
stick his fan base on them and um
they're going to get harassed.
>> Sure, I got you. But did you ever go to
Casey about any at any point?
>> Um
Casey was the party that did not like
the victim, so I didn't think there was
a point.
>> Okay, got you. Um, I did want to ask you
in terms of like what you told me,
right? Um, about the allegations against
Saber Spark because you said that you
wanted to uh, let me go back and
remember what you said. Um, it was
supposed to go up, right?
>> Also, really quick, why didn't you do a
background check on Chris? If you do a
background check on somebody, does it
ping that they told a weird joke 15
years ago? Quick question. I'm just
really curious. Like, is that going to
pop on a background check?
I I don't know. And it's true. KP did re
did did threaten to reveal who Emily was
if she didn't get Nicole and do damage
control for her because KP destroyed her
own reputation and leave it to a
spineless weasel rat [\h__\h] to never go
down with the sinking ship to always
drag people kicking and screaming into
the mess that she made. KP decided to
build a tiny house underneath the wheels
of a bus and then invited everybody to
come and live with her after she placed
herself there strategically. It's
[\h__\h] embarrassing
>> for the video to blindside him. Could
you elaborate what you meant by that?
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, the idea was like if the
if the statement was just on Twitter, um
he would have more control over public
knowledge of it. But if it was on
Twitter and in the video, then I was
hoping that we would get to a wider
range of the public before he had time
to respond. So, they were supposed to
kind of interconnect in that way that,
you know, obvious did not happen. Um
well, maybe it happened around. Yeah,
that
um at the same time.
>> Okay. But you do see that like from a
strategy perspective that trying to
blindside a person with allegations this
serious was probably a little vindictive
I guess is the best way to put that.
>> Um
>> this is the hardest question we've asked
so far. It's a good question. Do you
realize that blindsiding somebody with
these allegations um is pretty [\h__\h]
vindictive. Good question.
>> Yeah, I can I can see that. I guess um
at wiggle wiggle wiggle worm
>> like I knew like Saber was not
interested in talking to me about the
Chris stuff. You know, I was very clear
in my last email that I didn't want him
to contact me because it um so it didn't
seem like that avenue open and even so
um not that that like I get what you're
saying. Not that it okay or that but
>> sorry you're cutting. Um
>> oh sorry
>> the kittens are attacking the
>> YouTube. Maybe that will help.
>> Also just again a quick reminder for
everybody in chat. Lio Convoy said this
video was a bad idea.
>> Lio Convoy was like don't do this. This
is [\h__\h] stupid.
That
I think that if you know the physical
embodiment of uh this the the deadly sin
of sloth, the physical embodiment of the
the seventh deadly sin of sloth uh is
telling you that something is a bad
idea. That should cause pause in you.
That should cause pause in your heart, I
think. Is that any better?
>> Yeah. I don't know if it's probably on
my end, too, cuz God knows that every
time I enter into my living vicinity,
it's a [\h__\h] Bermuda Triangle and I
never have good connection ever. But,
you know,
>> right? But yeah, you do understand that
like the way you worded that to me is a
little bit of a red flag, right? Cuz
like if you're going to like post
serious allegations about somebody,
first of all, you have to like present
them as like giving them a chance to
respond to them or legal precedent for
one and for two, like
>> if there's like not that I'm saying that
I don't believe anybody in the story.
It's it's usually on the safer end to
try to believe it until further reason
to not believe it, right? But you do
understand if there's any chance in hell
that this isn't true, that then you
using these to blindside somebody off of
the present that you think they're
telling the truth, but they're not real,
could get you into some really big
trouble, right?
>> Yeah. No, I understand that. Um,
>> but I chose to do it anyway because lol.
I think I think it was also a
conversation that she's afraid of Saber.
So,
>> she's afraid of Saber.
Uhhuh.
>> Um I think that was a consideration, but
um yeah, they're very afraid of Saber.
So, um
>> I mean I understand that, but like yeah,
from the perspective of this person
violated them, of course they'd be
afraid, but they it could be just the
possibility they're afraid that like
>> again, if this is true, if this is true,
Sabre would know exactly who the [\h__\h]
this was about. If you were really
scared about that, Saber would know who
this was about.
I don't understand.
Maybe their story won't add up. You know
what I mean? Like, it's it's
>> Again, that's something I probably
should have done. You're you're right.
>> But I mean, not that I like I said, it's
usually on the safer end to like at
least believe it cuz if you if you don't
believe it, like now you're a lying and
you're wrong and you turn out to be
incorrect, then you just look like an
[\h__\h]
>> But at the same time, it's one of those
things where if this person's like lying
to you about this, it could set you up
into some real deep [\h__\h]
>> Yeah. Yeah. I I get that. But I you
know, I I still believe the victim. So
>> I stumble the victim. Even though it's
demonstrated that she's [\h__\h] lied,
she played you. She played you like a
[\h__\h] fiddle. She played you like a
[\h__\h] fiddle, bro. You got outdone.
You got outdid. You got outclassed. You
repped what you sowed. Like I I still
believe the victim, dude. The whole
thing is [\h__\h] And you know it is.
Are you for real right now? Are you for
real right now? Are you for real right
now? Okay. Yeah. I'm not I'm I'm I'm
very sure it happened. I'm not 100%
sure, but based on, you know,
>> 100%.
Well, as in I don't have like there's
not like evidence of it. Um kind of
thing, but from everything I've been
told, his behavior matches, you know,
stuff I've been telling you, it seems to
make sense to me.
>> Okay. So, you just believe it on like a
personal experience level sort of thing.
>> I just believe it because the vibes are
right.
>> Um
>> meanwhile, the vibes are [\h__\h] rancid
to anybody that has eyes.
>> The the fact that this wasn't that this
was something that was being talked
about a while ago. um on top of this on
top of um the experiences matching. Um
yeah, I I guess those were the two
things cuz I didn't really, at least
from what I remember, I don't think I
really talked to um the victim much
until like they wanted to tell me the
story. And um I helped her I to be
cleared about this because this is this
will be a big thing. Um I did give her
tips on her testimony. I did not write
it. I just provided
>> I gave her tips on her testimony. Tips
on her testimony. Tips on her testimony.
Tips on her testimony. What a You
shouldn't touch it. You shouldn't touch
it. If someone is coming to you with
allegations of sexual assault and sexual
misconduct and they give you their
statement, you should not touch it. It
should speak for itself.
You should keep your grubby little white
woman [\h__\h] house of wax museum
[\h__\h] creepy doll hands off of it. KP,
you [\h__\h] freak. Some feedback. Very
little feedback. Um and formatting. Um
so so it wasn't like one of those things
where you wrote it for her or anything?
>> No. No. I don't like you like I may be
like it seems like I may be stupid based
on everything that's happening but I'm
not that's one stupid thing I didn't do
>> right like you're not outwardly
malicious you're just kind of I I feel
like because you're so interconnected
into all of this that and forgive me I
don't want to make any assumptions of
your character but this is just what it
comes across to me that because of how
interconnected you are with Saber and
then getting this information from the
victim it kind of was more of like a val
did it feel like validating for you to
know that like this person who you
already didn't have good feelings about
was now suddenly
>> be more aggressive lazy had You're
you're going in the right direction.
We're going in the right direction. We
we need to be a little bit more pointed
with this because KP like Lio is like a
greased hog, but she's more like a a
greased um mannequin at Macy's. Um if
you can imagine, be more direct with
this because this is a really important
question. Was one of the reasons that
you decided to pursue this so hard is
because these were allegations against
somebody that you already had negative
sentiments towards. Would you say that
you were kind of blind to a lot of the
problems that were in Emy's original
original statement because you already
had negative predelections towards this
person because she certainly did. She
certainly did. And she said as much. She
said as much when you know she she sent
that voice memo to Emmy and said like
you know there are certain things about
your story that aren't adding up now.
Once the tides had turned and she was,
you know, in the crosshair, so to speak,
she was very aware that there were
problems with the story, there were
problems with the timeline, there were
problems with the details, there were
problems with X, Y, and Z, but she chose
to ignore those issues because it
validated her dislike of Saber Spark,
and she knows that. Be more aggressive,
Lazy, be more aggressively
like slapped with something that is like
objectively you can be like, "Okay, this
is a good reason for me not to [\h__\h]
like this guy." You know what I mean?
Um,
>> don't give her wiggle room.
>> I guess I mean it was the the experience
of talking to the victim the first time
was more of like,
>> you know, oh, someone else real like
understands uh
>> someone else understands. I want
everybody to write this down. This is
very important. This is the level of
delusion that we're talking about here.
Somebody comes to you with a story. Hey,
so and so raped me not once but twice.
Raped me not once but twice. And KP's
first instinct, and this is her, you
know, this is her retelling of this. I
believe her when she says this. Her
first instinct was like, "Wow, somebody
went through what I went through.
Are you for real? You are literally
clinically insane." One time Sai was
really mean to me in a Discord call. So
when somebody told me that Sai is a
rapist, I was like, "Wow, I feel so
validated that somebody went through a
similar experience to me. You are
deranged. You are unwell.
Like you should be in an institution.
I'm not kidding. That's [\h__\h] crazy.
That is insane. This is a different
level of main character syndrome. It's
incredible
>> what we've gone through because we both
had like those kind of experiences with
him. But it was also like really
emotionally draining. Like I had no idea
like it got it was going to get this bad
as far as you know you know like I said
before all this the most I thought is
Saber just kind of wasn't thinking about
how his actions or lack of actions um
had any long-term consequences. So, um,
you know, like that's not
>> Dude, I don't know how the [\h__\h] we're
going to get through this because, um,
so I'm going to ask I'm going to ask I'm
going to ask because these are our
options really quick because I don't
know how much more of this I can sit
through because I'm going to like
[\h__\h] freak out.
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