1 00:00:05,279 --> 00:00:07,510 This video is not suitable for all ages 2 00:00:07,510 --> 00:00:07,520 This video is not suitable for all ages 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,509 This video is not suitable for all ages and should only be viewed by viewers 18 4 00:00:09,509 --> 00:00:09,519 and should only be viewed by viewers 18 5 00:00:09,519 --> 00:00:11,190 and should only be viewed by viewers 18 or older due to the nature of the 6 00:00:11,190 --> 00:00:11,200 or older due to the nature of the 7 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,870 or older due to the nature of the content discussed and the discussion of 8 00:00:12,870 --> 00:00:12,880 content discussed and the discussion of 9 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,870 content discussed and the discussion of sexual predators on the internet. 10 00:00:14,870 --> 00:00:14,880 sexual predators on the internet. 11 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,790 sexual predators on the internet. Trigger warnings for the following: 12 00:00:16,790 --> 00:00:16,800 Trigger warnings for the following: 13 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,630 Trigger warnings for the following: pedophilia, lollycon and child 14 00:00:18,630 --> 00:00:18,640 pedophilia, lollycon and child 15 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,950 pedophilia, lollycon and child pornography, suicide, grooming, 16 00:00:20,950 --> 00:00:20,960 pornography, suicide, grooming, 17 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,349 pornography, suicide, grooming, anti-semitism and Nazi imagery, sexual 18 00:00:23,349 --> 00:00:23,359 anti-semitism and Nazi imagery, sexual 19 00:00:23,359 --> 00:00:25,590 anti-semitism and Nazi imagery, sexual harassment and sexual objectification, 20 00:00:25,590 --> 00:00:25,600 harassment and sexual objectification, 21 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,390 harassment and sexual objectification, bestiality and zophilia and rape. Please 22 00:00:28,390 --> 00:00:28,400 bestiality and zophilia and rape. Please 23 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,390 bestiality and zophilia and rape. Please do not harass anyone named in this 24 00:00:30,390 --> 00:00:30,400 do not harass anyone named in this 25 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,630 do not harass anyone named in this video. Hello viewers, welcome to another 26 00:00:32,630 --> 00:00:32,640 video. Hello viewers, welcome to another 27 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,470 video. Hello viewers, welcome to another segment of Maybe the internet was a big 28 00:00:34,470 --> 00:00:34,480 segment of Maybe the internet was a big 29 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:36,389 segment of Maybe the internet was a big [\h__\h] mistake. 30 00:00:36,389 --> 00:00:36,399 [\h__\h] mistake. 31 00:00:36,399 --> 00:00:39,670 [\h__\h] mistake. Big mistake. Big huge. On a more serious 32 00:00:39,670 --> 00:00:39,680 Big mistake. Big huge. On a more serious 33 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,549 Big mistake. Big huge. On a more serious note, this video covers sexual 34 00:00:41,549 --> 00:00:41,559 note, this video covers sexual 35 00:00:41,559 --> 00:00:44,110 note, this video covers sexual gratification as well as general sexual 36 00:00:44,110 --> 00:00:44,120 gratification as well as general sexual 37 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,389 gratification as well as general sexual harassment. And it's a very depressing 38 00:00:46,389 --> 00:00:46,399 harassment. And it's a very depressing 39 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:48,150 harassment. And it's a very depressing story. If you're a kid who somehow got 40 00:00:48,150 --> 00:00:48,160 story. If you're a kid who somehow got 41 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:50,310 story. If you're a kid who somehow got past the age restriction, please go away 42 00:00:50,310 --> 00:00:50,320 past the age restriction, please go away 43 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,869 past the age restriction, please go away now. Just go. Now, I don't like covering 44 00:00:52,869 --> 00:00:52,879 now. Just go. Now, I don't like covering 45 00:00:52,879 --> 00:00:54,790 now. Just go. Now, I don't like covering these stories. We're an animation 46 00:00:54,790 --> 00:00:54,800 these stories. We're an animation 47 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,790 these stories. We're an animation channel. We cover very important stuff 48 00:00:56,790 --> 00:00:56,800 channel. We cover very important stuff 49 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,950 channel. We cover very important stuff like Disney and not Disney things 50 00:00:58,950 --> 00:00:58,960 like Disney and not Disney things 51 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,950 like Disney and not Disney things sometimes, but I like to think of myself 52 00:01:00,950 --> 00:01:00,960 sometimes, but I like to think of myself 53 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,470 sometimes, but I like to think of myself like the John Stewart of the YouTube 54 00:01:02,470 --> 00:01:02,480 like the John Stewart of the YouTube 55 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,549 like the John Stewart of the YouTube animation community. I call things out 56 00:01:04,549 --> 00:01:04,559 animation community. I call things out 57 00:01:04,559 --> 00:01:06,070 animation community. I call things out when I feel like I can add something to 58 00:01:06,070 --> 00:01:06,080 when I feel like I can add something to 59 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,830 when I feel like I can add something to the conversation. And it's important to 60 00:01:07,830 --> 00:01:07,840 the conversation. And it's important to 61 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,510 the conversation. And it's important to talk about when YouTubers are misusing 62 00:01:09,510 --> 00:01:09,520 talk about when YouTubers are misusing 63 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,190 talk about when YouTubers are misusing their platforms. So, what's the no fun 64 00:01:11,190 --> 00:01:11,200 their platforms. So, what's the no fun 65 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,550 their platforms. So, what's the no fun situation? Because I hate it here. I 66 00:01:14,550 --> 00:01:14,560 situation? Because I hate it here. I 67 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,910 situation? Because I hate it here. I don't want to be alive anymore. I have 68 00:01:17,910 --> 00:01:17,920 don't want to be alive anymore. I have 69 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,830 don't want to be alive anymore. I have chosen not to keep this person anonymous 70 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:19,840 chosen not to keep this person anonymous 71 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,510 chosen not to keep this person anonymous because I believe this is not a mistake 72 00:01:21,510 --> 00:01:21,520 because I believe this is not a mistake 73 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,510 because I believe this is not a mistake or slip of the tongue. This is an active 74 00:01:23,510 --> 00:01:23,520 or slip of the tongue. This is an active 75 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,749 or slip of the tongue. This is an active attempt of slander and misogyny and 76 00:01:25,749 --> 00:01:25,759 attempt of slander and misogyny and 77 00:01:25,759 --> 00:01:27,990 attempt of slander and misogyny and that's just not acceptable. Also, this 78 00:01:27,990 --> 00:01:28,000 that's just not acceptable. Also, this 79 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,910 that's just not acceptable. Also, this incident wasn't freely admitted to me. I 80 00:01:29,910 --> 00:01:29,920 incident wasn't freely admitted to me. I 81 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,429 incident wasn't freely admitted to me. I had to have someone else tell me that 82 00:01:31,429 --> 00:01:31,439 had to have someone else tell me that 83 00:01:31,439 --> 00:01:33,590 had to have someone else tell me that this was going on in a professional 84 00:01:33,590 --> 00:01:33,600 this was going on in a professional 85 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,590 this was going on in a professional setting and he couldn't even tell me 86 00:01:35,590 --> 00:01:35,600 setting and he couldn't even tell me 87 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,749 setting and he couldn't even tell me himself. Chris was a team member roughly 88 00:01:37,749 --> 00:01:37,759 himself. Chris was a team member roughly 89 00:01:37,759 --> 00:01:41,990 himself. Chris was a team member roughly from 2014 to 2015. I know I'm old. Chris 90 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:42,000 from 2014 to 2015. I know I'm old. Chris 91 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,910 from 2014 to 2015. I know I'm old. Chris was generally a nice guy in my time 92 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:43,920 was generally a nice guy in my time 93 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,670 was generally a nice guy in my time knowing him, but he exhibited weird 94 00:01:45,670 --> 00:01:45,680 knowing him, but he exhibited weird 95 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,389 knowing him, but he exhibited weird behavior like you just draw this for 96 00:01:48,389 --> 00:01:48,399 behavior like you just draw this for 97 00:01:48,399 --> 00:01:50,870 behavior like you just draw this for your boss, right? If memory serves, 98 00:01:50,870 --> 00:01:50,880 your boss, right? If memory serves, 99 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,350 your boss, right? If memory serves, there's also a nude version. That's 100 00:01:53,350 --> 00:01:53,360 there's also a nude version. That's 101 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,670 there's also a nude version. That's disgusting. He was also my first trip to 102 00:01:55,670 --> 00:01:55,680 disgusting. He was also my first trip to 103 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,510 disgusting. He was also my first trip to Everfree Northwest, the one we did the 104 00:01:57,510 --> 00:01:57,520 Everfree Northwest, the one we did the 105 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,990 Everfree Northwest, the one we did the blog about. He's this guy here. The 106 00:01:59,990 --> 00:02:00,000 blog about. He's this guy here. The 107 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,830 blog about. He's this guy here. The story is as follows. I'm not going to 108 00:02:01,830 --> 00:02:01,840 story is as follows. I'm not going to 109 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,030 story is as follows. I'm not going to read it myself because it's going to 110 00:02:03,030 --> 00:02:03,040 read it myself because it's going to 111 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,550 read it myself because it's going to make me sick. So, I'm just going to have 112 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:04,560 make me sick. So, I'm just going to have 113 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,950 make me sick. So, I'm just going to have someone else read it. At some point over 114 00:02:06,950 --> 00:02:06,960 someone else read it. At some point over 115 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,949 someone else read it. At some point over the last few years, Chris told this 116 00:02:08,949 --> 00:02:08,959 the last few years, Chris told this 117 00:02:08,959 --> 00:02:11,750 the last few years, Chris told this story allegedly several times that in 118 00:02:11,750 --> 00:02:11,760 story allegedly several times that in 119 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,110 story allegedly several times that in the bathroom of the hotel where the 120 00:02:13,110 --> 00:02:13,120 the bathroom of the hotel where the 121 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,110 the bathroom of the hotel where the group was staying, he was masturbating 122 00:02:15,110 --> 00:02:15,120 group was staying, he was masturbating 123 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,309 group was staying, he was masturbating to KP's clothing. Chris states that this 124 00:02:18,309 --> 00:02:18,319 to KP's clothing. Chris states that this 125 00:02:18,319 --> 00:02:20,710 to KP's clothing. Chris states that this is a lie as he was actually constipated 126 00:02:20,710 --> 00:02:20,720 is a lie as he was actually constipated 127 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,390 is a lie as he was actually constipated during the trip and there were no 128 00:02:22,390 --> 00:02:22,400 during the trip and there were no 129 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,949 during the trip and there were no witnesses to his masturbation story in 130 00:02:24,949 --> 00:02:24,959 witnesses to his masturbation story in 131 00:02:24,959 --> 00:02:27,030 witnesses to his masturbation story in or near the hotel room. We don't know 132 00:02:27,030 --> 00:02:27,040 or near the hotel room. We don't know 133 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,190 or near the hotel room. We don't know the details about who the story was told 134 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:29,200 the details about who the story was told 135 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,589 the details about who the story was told to besides the whistleblower who will 136 00:02:31,589 --> 00:02:31,599 to besides the whistleblower who will 137 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:33,750 to besides the whistleblower who will remain anonymous, but it was likely Will 138 00:02:33,750 --> 00:02:33,760 remain anonymous, but it was likely Will 139 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,309 remain anonymous, but it was likely Will Ryan, head of the YouTube channel DA 140 00:02:36,309 --> 00:02:36,319 Ryan, head of the YouTube channel DA 141 00:02:36,319 --> 00:02:39,110 Ryan, head of the YouTube channel DA Games, as Chris and Will are friends as 142 00:02:39,110 --> 00:02:39,120 Games, as Chris and Will are friends as 143 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,350 Games, as Chris and Will are friends as well as friends andor employees of that 144 00:02:41,350 --> 00:02:41,360 well as friends andor employees of that 145 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,509 well as friends andor employees of that YouTube channel. Chris also started 146 00:02:43,509 --> 00:02:43,519 YouTube channel. Chris also started 147 00:02:43,519 --> 00:02:45,750 YouTube channel. Chris also started working for DA Games shortly after 148 00:02:45,750 --> 00:02:45,760 working for DA Games shortly after 149 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,509 working for DA Games shortly after leaving the I Love Composible Law 150 00:02:47,509 --> 00:02:47,519 leaving the I Love Composible Law 151 00:02:47,519 --> 00:02:50,390 leaving the I Love Composible Law production team, so the timelines track. 152 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:50,400 production team, so the timelines track. 153 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,869 production team, so the timelines track. Once KP was informed that this incident 154 00:02:52,869 --> 00:02:52,879 Once KP was informed that this incident 155 00:02:52,879 --> 00:02:55,350 Once KP was informed that this incident took place, she confronted him via text 156 00:02:55,350 --> 00:02:55,360 took place, she confronted him via text 157 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,070 took place, she confronted him via text and an audio confession. The audio is 158 00:02:58,070 --> 00:02:58,080 and an audio confession. The audio is 159 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,750 and an audio confession. The audio is linked in the description if you would 160 00:02:59,750 --> 00:02:59,760 linked in the description if you would 161 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:00,869 linked in the description if you would like to listen to the whole thing 162 00:03:00,869 --> 00:03:00,879 like to listen to the whole thing 163 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:03,830 like to listen to the whole thing yourself. All right. Well, first I think 164 00:03:03,830 --> 00:03:03,840 yourself. All right. Well, first I think 165 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,190 yourself. All right. Well, first I think it's the obvious thing is 166 00:03:06,190 --> 00:03:06,200 it's the obvious thing is 167 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,910 it's the obvious thing is one just want to profusely apologize for 168 00:03:09,910 --> 00:03:09,920 one just want to profusely apologize for 169 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:13,670 one just want to profusely apologize for that terrible [\h__\h] thing. I did. Mhm. 170 00:03:13,670 --> 00:03:13,680 that terrible [\h__\h] thing. I did. Mhm. 171 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,990 that terrible [\h__\h] thing. I did. Mhm. And 172 00:03:14,990 --> 00:03:15,000 And 173 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,149 And that 174 00:03:17,149 --> 00:03:17,159 that 175 00:03:17,159 --> 00:03:21,910 that God was an absolute horrible person so 176 00:03:21,910 --> 00:03:21,920 God was an absolute horrible person so 177 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:24,670 God was an absolute horrible person so many years ago and you didn't deserve 178 00:03:24,670 --> 00:03:24,680 many years ago and you didn't deserve 179 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,430 many years ago and you didn't deserve that. So, 180 00:03:27,430 --> 00:03:27,440 that. So, 181 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,710 that. So, right. Um, so I have a couple of things. 182 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:30,720 right. Um, so I have a couple of things. 183 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,750 right. Um, so I have a couple of things. So, my source says, um, you told the 184 00:03:33,750 --> 00:03:33,760 So, my source says, um, you told the 185 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,509 So, my source says, um, you told the story in front of Will and Sean and a 186 00:03:35,509 --> 00:03:35,519 story in front of Will and Sean and a 187 00:03:35,519 --> 00:03:38,470 story in front of Will and Sean and a couple other people. Is that correct? 188 00:03:38,470 --> 00:03:38,480 couple other people. Is that correct? 189 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,309 couple other people. Is that correct? Uh, that would probably be correct. 190 00:03:40,309 --> 00:03:40,319 Uh, that would probably be correct. 191 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:42,149 Uh, that would probably be correct. Yeah. So Will has heard the story 192 00:03:42,149 --> 00:03:42,159 Yeah. So Will has heard the story 193 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:43,830 Yeah. So Will has heard the story probably in passing a couple of times, 194 00:03:43,830 --> 00:03:43,840 probably in passing a couple of times, 195 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,149 probably in passing a couple of times, correct? 196 00:03:46,149 --> 00:03:46,159 correct? 197 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:49,110 correct? Yeah, probably once. Okay. Um, same with 198 00:03:49,110 --> 00:03:49,120 Yeah, probably once. Okay. Um, same with 199 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,949 Yeah, probably once. Okay. Um, same with Sean. 200 00:03:50,949 --> 00:03:50,959 Sean. 201 00:03:50,959 --> 00:03:55,470 Sean. Yeah, Sean. Okay. Did you talk to Shawn 202 00:03:55,470 --> 00:03:55,480 Yeah, Sean. Okay. Did you talk to Shawn 203 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,630 Yeah, Sean. Okay. Did you talk to Shawn um uh privately about anything else that 204 00:03:58,630 --> 00:03:58,640 um uh privately about anything else that 205 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,990 um uh privately about anything else that happened when you were working on the 206 00:03:59,990 --> 00:04:00,000 happened when you were working on the 207 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,110 happened when you were working on the team that I don't know about? 208 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:03,120 team that I don't know about? 209 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,270 team that I don't know about? Not that I can remember. Okay. 210 00:04:06,270 --> 00:04:06,280 Not that I can remember. Okay. 211 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,350 Not that I can remember. Okay. Nothing I say is meant to 212 00:04:10,350 --> 00:04:10,360 Nothing I say is meant to 213 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:15,069 Nothing I say is meant to uh excuse what I did because it's 214 00:04:15,069 --> 00:04:15,079 uh excuse what I did because it's 215 00:04:15,079 --> 00:04:17,909 uh excuse what I did because it's inexcusable what I did. Can you do you 216 00:04:17,909 --> 00:04:17,919 inexcusable what I did. Can you do you 217 00:04:17,919 --> 00:04:20,229 inexcusable what I did. Can you do you want me to say what what what what the 218 00:04:20,229 --> 00:04:20,239 want me to say what what what what the 219 00:04:20,239 --> 00:04:21,909 want me to say what what what what the story was just for context or do you 220 00:04:21,909 --> 00:04:21,919 story was just for context or do you 221 00:04:21,919 --> 00:04:24,990 story was just for context or do you want to explain it? 222 00:04:24,990 --> 00:04:25,000 want to explain it? 223 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,550 want to explain it? Uh I mean I guess it makes more sense if 224 00:04:28,550 --> 00:04:28,560 Uh I mean I guess it makes more sense if 225 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,430 Uh I mean I guess it makes more sense if I do because I don't think it's fair for 226 00:04:31,430 --> 00:04:31,440 I do because I don't think it's fair for 227 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,430 I do because I don't think it's fair for you to have to reiterate that horrible 228 00:04:33,430 --> 00:04:33,440 you to have to reiterate that horrible 229 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,110 you to have to reiterate that horrible thing. Sure. Go ahead. Uh, yeah. So the 230 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:37,120 thing. Sure. Go ahead. Uh, yeah. So the 231 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,070 thing. Sure. Go ahead. Uh, yeah. So the old 232 00:04:39,070 --> 00:04:39,080 old 233 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:44,790 old um tale goes is that I pleasured myself 234 00:04:44,790 --> 00:04:44,800 um tale goes is that I pleasured myself 235 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,950 um tale goes is that I pleasured myself in the hotel bathroom we were sharing 236 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:46,960 in the hotel bathroom we were sharing 237 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,310 in the hotel bathroom we were sharing during one of our breaks when everyone 238 00:04:50,310 --> 00:04:50,320 during one of our breaks when everyone 239 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,230 during one of our breaks when everyone was gone and whatever and that I fell 240 00:04:54,230 --> 00:04:54,240 was gone and whatever and that I fell 241 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,310 was gone and whatever and that I fell off the John 242 00:04:57,310 --> 00:04:57,320 off the John 243 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,510 off the John uh after 244 00:05:00,510 --> 00:05:00,520 uh after 245 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,030 uh after uh basically getting lightheaded from 246 00:05:03,030 --> 00:05:03,040 uh basically getting lightheaded from 247 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,070 uh basically getting lightheaded from what would be ejaculation falling on the 248 00:05:06,070 --> 00:05:06,080 what would be ejaculation falling on the 249 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,790 what would be ejaculation falling on the or where your dirty clothes also happen 250 00:05:08,790 --> 00:05:08,800 or where your dirty clothes also happen 251 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,830 or where your dirty clothes also happen to be and that my face planted on your 252 00:05:11,830 --> 00:05:11,840 to be and that my face planted on your 253 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:14,070 to be and that my face planted on your underwear. 254 00:05:14,070 --> 00:05:14,080 underwear. 255 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,350 underwear. Right. And part of my PD version, I have 256 00:05:17,350 --> 00:05:17,360 Right. And part of my PD version, I have 257 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,189 Right. And part of my PD version, I have a six-year-old in the other room. So, 258 00:05:21,189 --> 00:05:21,199 a six-year-old in the other room. So, 259 00:05:21,199 --> 00:05:22,790 a six-year-old in the other room. So, okay. I wasn't aware of that, but thanks 260 00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:22,800 okay. I wasn't aware of that, but thanks 261 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,950 okay. I wasn't aware of that, but thanks for being honest. Chris in his audio 262 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:24,960 for being honest. Chris in his audio 263 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,870 for being honest. Chris in his audio testimony assured his other boss, 264 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:26,880 testimony assured his other boss, 265 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,189 testimony assured his other boss, YouTuber Sabers Spark, wasn't told this 266 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:29,199 YouTuber Sabers Spark, wasn't told this 267 00:05:29,199 --> 00:05:31,590 YouTuber Sabers Spark, wasn't told this story, but it's unclear how truthful 268 00:05:31,590 --> 00:05:31,600 story, but it's unclear how truthful 269 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,749 story, but it's unclear how truthful Chris is being when he says that. Chris 270 00:05:33,749 --> 00:05:33,759 Chris is being when he says that. Chris 271 00:05:33,759 --> 00:05:35,830 Chris is being when he says that. Chris also tries to steer the conversation to 272 00:05:35,830 --> 00:05:35,840 also tries to steer the conversation to 273 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:38,230 also tries to steer the conversation to not include too much explicitly, stating 274 00:05:38,230 --> 00:05:38,240 not include too much explicitly, stating 275 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,310 not include too much explicitly, stating that quote, "There is a baby in the 276 00:05:40,310 --> 00:05:40,320 that quote, "There is a baby in the 277 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,950 that quote, "There is a baby in the other room," unquote. But that also 278 00:05:42,950 --> 00:05:42,960 other room," unquote. But that also 279 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,710 other room," unquote. But that also might have been a ploy to lessen the 280 00:05:44,710 --> 00:05:44,720 might have been a ploy to lessen the 281 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,710 might have been a ploy to lessen the harshness of the anger present. 282 00:05:46,710 --> 00:05:46,720 harshness of the anger present. 283 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,629 harshness of the anger present. Regardless, since Chris says he was 284 00:05:48,629 --> 00:05:48,639 Regardless, since Chris says he was 285 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:50,230 Regardless, since Chris says he was lying about the whole incident, it's 286 00:05:50,230 --> 00:05:50,240 lying about the whole incident, it's 287 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,909 lying about the whole incident, it's difficult to take his word on anything 288 00:05:51,909 --> 00:05:51,919 difficult to take his word on anything 289 00:05:51,919 --> 00:05:54,070 difficult to take his word on anything due to this lie and the actions he took 290 00:05:54,070 --> 00:05:54,080 due to this lie and the actions he took 291 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,150 due to this lie and the actions he took regarding it. So, once I was informed of 292 00:05:56,150 --> 00:05:56,160 regarding it. So, once I was informed of 293 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,830 regarding it. So, once I was informed of this information and got Chris admitting 294 00:05:57,830 --> 00:05:57,840 this information and got Chris admitting 295 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:00,310 this information and got Chris admitting to it, I sent that proof to Sabers Spark 296 00:06:00,310 --> 00:06:00,320 to it, I sent that proof to Sabers Spark 297 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,790 to it, I sent that proof to Sabers Spark through mutual friends and to DA Games. 298 00:06:02,790 --> 00:06:02,800 through mutual friends and to DA Games. 299 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,230 through mutual friends and to DA Games. After reaching out twice and waiting 300 00:06:04,230 --> 00:06:04,240 After reaching out twice and waiting 301 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,150 After reaching out twice and waiting months for any private messages, I 302 00:06:06,150 --> 00:06:06,160 months for any private messages, I 303 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,390 months for any private messages, I eventually received someone at DA Games 304 00:06:08,390 --> 00:06:08,400 eventually received someone at DA Games 305 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,350 eventually received someone at DA Games in their totally real HR department that 306 00:06:11,350 --> 00:06:11,360 in their totally real HR department that 307 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,350 in their totally real HR department that totally exists, even though I couldn't 308 00:06:13,350 --> 00:06:13,360 totally exists, even though I couldn't 309 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,510 totally exists, even though I couldn't find any proof of it online that's 310 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:15,520 find any proof of it online that's 311 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,150 find any proof of it online that's totally not run by Will's roommate who's 312 00:06:18,150 --> 00:06:18,160 totally not run by Will's roommate who's 313 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,309 totally not run by Will's roommate who's financially dependent on him. And for 314 00:06:20,309 --> 00:06:20,319 financially dependent on him. And for 315 00:06:20,319 --> 00:06:22,150 financially dependent on him. And for the record, I assumed Chris knew he was 316 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:22,160 the record, I assumed Chris knew he was 317 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,990 the record, I assumed Chris knew he was being recorded because it was a call 318 00:06:23,990 --> 00:06:24,000 being recorded because it was a call 319 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,270 being recorded because it was a call about safety. It only gets worse from 320 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:27,280 about safety. It only gets worse from 321 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:29,909 about safety. It only gets worse from here. 322 00:06:29,909 --> 00:06:29,919 here. 323 00:06:29,919 --> 00:06:31,350 here. I'm going to need every last drop of 324 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:31,360 I'm going to need every last drop of 325 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,189 I'm going to need every last drop of this. Let's bring a political 326 00:06:33,189 --> 00:06:33,199 this. Let's bring a political 327 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:35,510 this. Let's bring a political comparison. For those who forgot or are 328 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:35,520 comparison. For those who forgot or are 329 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,550 comparison. For those who forgot or are not American, good for you. The 2016 330 00:06:38,550 --> 00:06:38,560 not American, good for you. The 2016 331 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,790 not American, good for you. The 2016 leak of the Hollywood Access tape was a 332 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:40,800 leak of the Hollywood Access tape was a 333 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,029 leak of the Hollywood Access tape was a big deal. In a bus, we have an orange 334 00:06:43,029 --> 00:06:43,039 big deal. In a bus, we have an orange 335 00:06:43,039 --> 00:06:45,270 big deal. In a bus, we have an orange man who shall not be named, and Billy 336 00:06:45,270 --> 00:06:45,280 man who shall not be named, and Billy 337 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:47,430 man who shall not be named, and Billy Bush, a member of the Bush family. He's 338 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:47,440 Bush, a member of the Bush family. He's 339 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,749 Bush, a member of the Bush family. He's a cousin of President George W. Bush, or 340 00:06:49,749 --> 00:06:49,759 a cousin of President George W. Bush, or 341 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:51,909 a cousin of President George W. Bush, or as my Gen Z audience would know, the 342 00:06:51,909 --> 00:06:51,919 as my Gen Z audience would know, the 343 00:06:51,919 --> 00:06:56,150 as my Gen Z audience would know, the shoe guy. Who throws a shoe? Honestly, 344 00:06:56,150 --> 00:06:56,160 shoe guy. Who throws a shoe? Honestly, 345 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,749 shoe guy. Who throws a shoe? Honestly, orange man was talking about women in an 346 00:06:57,749 --> 00:06:57,759 orange man was talking about women in an 347 00:06:57,759 --> 00:06:59,670 orange man was talking about women in an inappropriate way. Google it if you want 348 00:06:59,670 --> 00:06:59,680 inappropriate way. Google it if you want 349 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,189 inappropriate way. Google it if you want to. This whole script is giving me a 350 00:07:01,189 --> 00:07:01,199 to. This whole script is giving me a 351 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:02,790 to. This whole script is giving me a [\h__\h] headache. You know, I'm 352 00:07:02,790 --> 00:07:02,800 [\h__\h] headache. You know, I'm 353 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,390 [\h__\h] headache. You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful. I 354 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:04,400 automatically attracted to beautiful. I 355 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:05,830 automatically attracted to beautiful. I just start kissing them. It's like a 356 00:07:05,830 --> 00:07:05,840 just start kissing them. It's like a 357 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:07,909 just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Now, even though this was in 358 00:07:07,909 --> 00:07:07,919 magnet. Now, even though this was in 359 00:07:07,919 --> 00:07:11,270 magnet. Now, even though this was in 2005 and leaked in 2016, and even though 360 00:07:11,270 --> 00:07:11,280 2005 and leaked in 2016, and even though 361 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,029 2005 and leaked in 2016, and even though Billy Bush was now working for the Today 362 00:07:13,029 --> 00:07:13,039 Billy Bush was now working for the Today 363 00:07:13,039 --> 00:07:15,189 Billy Bush was now working for the Today Show and not Hollywood Access, where the 364 00:07:15,189 --> 00:07:15,199 Show and not Hollywood Access, where the 365 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:17,110 Show and not Hollywood Access, where the tape was obtained, Bush was still fired 366 00:07:17,110 --> 00:07:17,120 tape was obtained, Bush was still fired 367 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,909 tape was obtained, Bush was still fired on moral grounds, not contract 368 00:07:18,909 --> 00:07:18,919 on moral grounds, not contract 369 00:07:18,919 --> 00:07:21,029 on moral grounds, not contract obligations. It seems like keeping him 370 00:07:21,029 --> 00:07:21,039 obligations. It seems like keeping him 371 00:07:21,039 --> 00:07:22,710 obligations. It seems like keeping him on staff would be a bad look for the 372 00:07:22,710 --> 00:07:22,720 on staff would be a bad look for the 373 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,710 on staff would be a bad look for the Today Show, despite this happening over 374 00:07:24,710 --> 00:07:24,720 Today Show, despite this happening over 375 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,589 Today Show, despite this happening over 10 years ago. Imagine that. So, I find 376 00:07:27,589 --> 00:07:27,599 10 years ago. Imagine that. So, I find 377 00:07:27,599 --> 00:07:29,830 10 years ago. Imagine that. So, I find this before his contract excuse to be 378 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:29,840 this before his contract excuse to be 379 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,710 this before his contract excuse to be weak at best. The ironic thing is Bush 380 00:07:32,710 --> 00:07:32,720 weak at best. The ironic thing is Bush 381 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,550 weak at best. The ironic thing is Bush was mostly going along with what was 382 00:07:34,550 --> 00:07:34,560 was mostly going along with what was 383 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,390 was mostly going along with what was said. Chris actually did more than Bush 384 00:07:36,390 --> 00:07:36,400 said. Chris actually did more than Bush 385 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,950 said. Chris actually did more than Bush did and suffered less consequences. As 386 00:07:38,950 --> 00:07:38,960 did and suffered less consequences. As 387 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,870 did and suffered less consequences. As well, if Chris told the story multiple 388 00:07:40,870 --> 00:07:40,880 well, if Chris told the story multiple 389 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,950 well, if Chris told the story multiple times, I would assume one of those times 390 00:07:42,950 --> 00:07:42,960 times, I would assume one of those times 391 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,430 times, I would assume one of those times was after his contract was signed. But 392 00:07:45,430 --> 00:07:45,440 was after his contract was signed. But 393 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,909 was after his contract was signed. But don't worry, Chris can still run for 394 00:07:48,909 --> 00:07:48,919 don't worry, Chris can still run for 395 00:07:48,919 --> 00:07:51,110 don't worry, Chris can still run for president. Just listen to how Bush 396 00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:51,120 president. Just listen to how Bush 397 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,189 president. Just listen to how Bush described it affecting his family. What 398 00:07:53,189 --> 00:07:53,199 described it affecting his family. What 399 00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:55,430 described it affecting his family. What was it like for you to go back home 400 00:07:55,430 --> 00:07:55,440 was it like for you to go back home 401 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,869 was it like for you to go back home after the tape had been released to face 402 00:07:58,869 --> 00:07:58,879 after the tape had been released to face 403 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:01,070 after the tape had been released to face your daughters, your 404 00:08:01,070 --> 00:08:01,080 your daughters, your 405 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,550 your daughters, your wife? What was that moment like for you? 406 00:08:04,550 --> 00:08:04,560 wife? What was that moment like for you? 407 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:09,029 wife? What was that moment like for you? Well, the initial moments were uh total 408 00:08:09,029 --> 00:08:09,039 Well, the initial moments were uh total 409 00:08:09,039 --> 00:08:10,790 Well, the initial moments were uh total chaos. The paparazzi were never 410 00:08:10,790 --> 00:08:10,800 chaos. The paparazzi were never 411 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,390 chaos. The paparazzi were never interested in me before and now they're 412 00:08:12,390 --> 00:08:12,400 interested in me before and now they're 413 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,469 interested in me before and now they're outside the gate and ready to go. And 414 00:08:14,469 --> 00:08:14,479 outside the gate and ready to go. And 415 00:08:14,479 --> 00:08:17,950 outside the gate and ready to go. And but once we settled 416 00:08:17,950 --> 00:08:17,960 but once we settled 417 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,950 but once we settled um and got to connect, there was a 418 00:08:20,950 --> 00:08:20,960 um and got to connect, there was a 419 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,670 um and got to connect, there was a powerful moment. 420 00:08:22,670 --> 00:08:22,680 powerful moment. 421 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,749 powerful moment. My now 16-year-old daughter called me 422 00:08:25,749 --> 00:08:25,759 My now 16-year-old daughter called me 423 00:08:25,759 --> 00:08:28,550 My now 16-year-old daughter called me and she was in tears and she was really 424 00:08:28,550 --> 00:08:28,560 and she was in tears and she was really 425 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,389 and she was in tears and she was really upset and I I said, "Mary, it's it's 426 00:08:32,389 --> 00:08:32,399 upset and I I said, "Mary, it's it's 427 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:34,949 upset and I I said, "Mary, it's it's going to be okay. You know, don't 428 00:08:34,949 --> 00:08:34,959 going to be okay. You know, don't 429 00:08:34,959 --> 00:08:37,990 going to be okay. You know, don't worry." And she said, "No, why were you 430 00:08:37,990 --> 00:08:38,000 worry." And she said, "No, why were you 431 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,790 worry." And she said, "No, why were you laughing at the things that he was 432 00:08:39,790 --> 00:08:39,800 laughing at the things that he was 433 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,389 laughing at the things that he was saying on that bus? Why were you playing 434 00:08:42,389 --> 00:08:42,399 saying on that bus? Why were you playing 435 00:08:42,399 --> 00:08:44,389 saying on that bus? Why were you playing along with that? It wasn't funny." I 436 00:08:44,389 --> 00:08:44,399 along with that? It wasn't funny." I 437 00:08:44,399 --> 00:08:47,750 along with that? It wasn't funny." I said, "Mary, I am sorry." And there is 438 00:08:47,750 --> 00:08:47,760 said, "Mary, I am sorry." And there is 439 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,030 said, "Mary, I am sorry." And there is no good answer for that. If you take 440 00:08:51,030 --> 00:08:51,040 no good answer for that. If you take 441 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,710 no good answer for that. If you take another extreme example, do you guys 442 00:08:52,710 --> 00:08:52,720 another extreme example, do you guys 443 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,550 another extreme example, do you guys remember the Michael Vic controversy? 444 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:54,560 remember the Michael Vic controversy? 445 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:55,910 remember the Michael Vic controversy? For those who don't know, American 446 00:08:55,910 --> 00:08:55,920 For those who don't know, American 447 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,670 For those who don't know, American football player Michael Vic was caught 448 00:08:57,670 --> 00:08:57,680 football player Michael Vic was caught 449 00:08:57,680 --> 00:08:59,910 football player Michael Vic was caught running a dog fighting ring. You know, 450 00:08:59,910 --> 00:08:59,920 running a dog fighting ring. You know, 451 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:01,750 running a dog fighting ring. You know, where they take poor little puppies and 452 00:09:01,750 --> 00:09:01,760 where they take poor little puppies and 453 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,190 where they take poor little puppies and make them fight to the death for 454 00:09:03,190 --> 00:09:03,200 make them fight to the death for 455 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,150 make them fight to the death for gambling purposes. 456 00:09:06,150 --> 00:09:06,160 gambling purposes. 457 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,750 gambling purposes. I'm pretty sure there's no clause in his 458 00:09:07,750 --> 00:09:07,760 I'm pretty sure there's no clause in his 459 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,670 I'm pretty sure there's no clause in his football contract that says don't do 460 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:09,680 football contract that says don't do 461 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:11,910 football contract that says don't do that, but he was also fired on moral 462 00:09:11,910 --> 00:09:11,920 that, but he was also fired on moral 463 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,710 that, but he was also fired on moral grounds. Imagine consequences for your 464 00:09:14,710 --> 00:09:14,720 grounds. Imagine consequences for your 465 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,790 grounds. Imagine consequences for your actions. At the very least, let's assume 466 00:09:16,790 --> 00:09:16,800 actions. At the very least, let's assume 467 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,870 actions. At the very least, let's assume the absolute best of the situation. 468 00:09:18,870 --> 00:09:18,880 the absolute best of the situation. 469 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,190 the absolute best of the situation. Chris was being truthful. Saber and a 470 00:09:21,190 --> 00:09:21,200 Chris was being truthful. Saber and a 471 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,350 Chris was being truthful. Saber and a Will wasn't there to hear these 472 00:09:23,350 --> 00:09:23,360 Will wasn't there to hear these 473 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,430 Will wasn't there to hear these conversations. This happened before he 474 00:09:25,430 --> 00:09:25,440 conversations. This happened before he 475 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,509 conversations. This happened before he was hired somehow. I'm glad a 476 00:09:27,509 --> 00:09:27,519 was hired somehow. I'm glad a 477 00:09:27,519 --> 00:09:29,829 was hired somehow. I'm glad a whistleblower came forward. But even so, 478 00:09:29,829 --> 00:09:29,839 whistleblower came forward. But even so, 479 00:09:29,839 --> 00:09:31,509 whistleblower came forward. But even so, if this is how someone is talking about 480 00:09:31,509 --> 00:09:31,519 if this is how someone is talking about 481 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:33,949 if this is how someone is talking about women, shouldn't you tell their future 482 00:09:33,949 --> 00:09:33,959 women, shouldn't you tell their future 483 00:09:33,959 --> 00:09:36,230 women, shouldn't you tell their future bosses? Does an employee talking about 484 00:09:36,230 --> 00:09:36,240 bosses? Does an employee talking about 485 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,470 bosses? Does an employee talking about women in this unethical way make the 486 00:09:38,470 --> 00:09:38,480 women in this unethical way make the 487 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,470 women in this unethical way make the company look bad? I mean, this isn't 488 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:40,480 company look bad? I mean, this isn't 489 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,230 company look bad? I mean, this isn't just a slip of the tongue. This is a 490 00:09:42,230 --> 00:09:42,240 just a slip of the tongue. This is a 491 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,470 just a slip of the tongue. This is a purposeful attempt to objectify a woman 492 00:09:44,470 --> 00:09:44,480 purposeful attempt to objectify a woman 493 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:45,910 purposeful attempt to objectify a woman due to bitterness and self-esteem 494 00:09:45,910 --> 00:09:45,920 due to bitterness and self-esteem 495 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,070 due to bitterness and self-esteem issues, and should be taken seriously in 496 00:09:48,070 --> 00:09:48,080 issues, and should be taken seriously in 497 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,310 issues, and should be taken seriously in any workplace, even a virtual one like 498 00:09:50,310 --> 00:09:50,320 any workplace, even a virtual one like 499 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,310 any workplace, even a virtual one like YouTube. And the fact that DA Games and 500 00:09:52,310 --> 00:09:52,320 YouTube. And the fact that DA Games and 501 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,150 YouTube. And the fact that DA Games and others value Chris's safety and privacy 502 00:09:54,150 --> 00:09:54,160 others value Chris's safety and privacy 503 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,070 others value Chris's safety and privacy more than holding him accountable makes 504 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:56,080 more than holding him accountable makes 505 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,710 more than holding him accountable makes me worry because this is harassment and 506 00:09:58,710 --> 00:09:58,720 me worry because this is harassment and 507 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,910 me worry because this is harassment and I don't have to take it. New 508 00:10:00,910 --> 00:10:00,920 I don't have to take it. New 509 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,350 I don't have to take it. New developments. I posted part of the email 510 00:10:03,350 --> 00:10:03,360 developments. I posted part of the email 511 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,829 developments. I posted part of the email exchange on Twitter again and that blew 512 00:10:05,829 --> 00:10:05,839 exchange on Twitter again and that blew 513 00:10:05,839 --> 00:10:08,070 exchange on Twitter again and that blew up. I guess DA Games released a 514 00:10:08,070 --> 00:10:08,080 up. I guess DA Games released a 515 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,150 up. I guess DA Games released a statement due to public pressure. If 516 00:10:10,150 --> 00:10:10,160 statement due to public pressure. If 517 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,670 statement due to public pressure. If not, then they would have released their 518 00:10:11,670 --> 00:10:11,680 not, then they would have released their 519 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:13,910 not, then they would have released their statement a year ago when this email 520 00:10:13,910 --> 00:10:13,920 statement a year ago when this email 521 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,069 statement a year ago when this email exchange took place. Chris is going away 522 00:10:16,069 --> 00:10:16,079 exchange took place. Chris is going away 523 00:10:16,079 --> 00:10:19,509 exchange took place. Chris is going away on work training. Um, can I have proof 524 00:10:19,509 --> 00:10:19,519 on work training. Um, can I have proof 525 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:21,110 on work training. Um, can I have proof of that, please? Because you've already 526 00:10:21,110 --> 00:10:21,120 of that, please? Because you've already 527 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,430 of that, please? Because you've already been pretty untruthful to me. I think 528 00:10:23,430 --> 00:10:23,440 been pretty untruthful to me. I think 529 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,350 been pretty untruthful to me. I think you guys are just trying to wait until 530 00:10:25,350 --> 00:10:25,360 you guys are just trying to wait until 531 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,550 you guys are just trying to wait until this all dies down and everyone forgets 532 00:10:28,550 --> 00:10:28,560 this all dies down and everyone forgets 533 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:30,310 this all dies down and everyone forgets and then Chris will just magically 534 00:10:30,310 --> 00:10:30,320 and then Chris will just magically 535 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,930 and then Chris will just magically appear. 536 00:10:31,930 --> 00:10:31,940 appear. 537 00:10:31,940 --> 00:10:35,910 appear. [Music] 538 00:10:35,910 --> 00:10:35,920 [Music] 539 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,990 [Music] Chris's statement also came out, which 540 00:10:37,990 --> 00:10:38,000 Chris's statement also came out, which 541 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,150 Chris's statement also came out, which is really respectful, calling me an 542 00:10:40,150 --> 00:10:40,160 is really respectful, calling me an 543 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,470 is really respectful, calling me an employer. Oh, by the way, I was being 544 00:10:42,470 --> 00:10:42,480 employer. Oh, by the way, I was being 545 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,710 employer. Oh, by the way, I was being sarcastic. And then trying to make 546 00:10:44,710 --> 00:10:44,720 sarcastic. And then trying to make 547 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,389 sarcastic. And then trying to make himself the victim. Chris, if you felt 548 00:10:47,389 --> 00:10:47,399 himself the victim. Chris, if you felt 549 00:10:47,399 --> 00:10:49,829 himself the victim. Chris, if you felt mistreated, this is the first I'm ever 550 00:10:49,829 --> 00:10:49,839 mistreated, this is the first I'm ever 551 00:10:49,839 --> 00:10:52,150 mistreated, this is the first I'm ever hearing about it. So, politely talk to 552 00:10:52,150 --> 00:10:52,160 hearing about it. So, politely talk to 553 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,430 hearing about it. So, politely talk to me directly or shut the [\h__\h] up. You 554 00:10:55,430 --> 00:10:55,440 me directly or shut the [\h__\h] up. You 555 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,350 me directly or shut the [\h__\h] up. You need to shut the [\h__\h] up. I know we have 556 00:10:59,350 --> 00:10:59,360 need to shut the [\h__\h] up. I know we have 557 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,269 need to shut the [\h__\h] up. I know we have this dude broke culture around YouTube 558 00:11:01,269 --> 00:11:01,279 this dude broke culture around YouTube 559 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:02,870 this dude broke culture around YouTube entrepreneurs who have never been to 560 00:11:02,870 --> 00:11:02,880 entrepreneurs who have never been to 561 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,550 entrepreneurs who have never been to business school before and don't know 562 00:11:04,550 --> 00:11:04,560 business school before and don't know 563 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:07,030 business school before and don't know about good company ethics. As far as 564 00:11:07,030 --> 00:11:07,040 about good company ethics. As far as 565 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,550 about good company ethics. As far as Chris, I would hope he gets an official 566 00:11:08,550 --> 00:11:08,560 Chris, I would hope he gets an official 567 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:10,230 Chris, I would hope he gets an official investigation into his character from 568 00:11:10,230 --> 00:11:10,240 investigation into his character from 569 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,910 investigation into his character from both parties. And as a lead with the 570 00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:11,920 both parties. And as a lead with the 571 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,150 both parties. And as a lead with the Billy Bush example, possibly terminated. 572 00:11:14,150 --> 00:11:14,160 Billy Bush example, possibly terminated. 573 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,670 Billy Bush example, possibly terminated. I don't know if Chris has personally 574 00:11:15,670 --> 00:11:15,680 I don't know if Chris has personally 575 00:11:15,680 --> 00:11:17,670 I don't know if Chris has personally changed or what his character is now or 576 00:11:17,670 --> 00:11:17,680 changed or what his character is now or 577 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:18,870 changed or what his character is now or if there are any other victims out 578 00:11:18,870 --> 00:11:18,880 if there are any other victims out 579 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,550 if there are any other victims out there, but do you really want this kind 580 00:11:20,550 --> 00:11:20,560 there, but do you really want this kind 581 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:22,389 there, but do you really want this kind of guy to be representing your company? 582 00:11:22,389 --> 00:11:22,399 of guy to be representing your company? 583 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:23,829 of guy to be representing your company? To work in the media industry is a 584 00:11:23,829 --> 00:11:23,839 To work in the media industry is a 585 00:11:23,839 --> 00:11:26,069 To work in the media industry is a privilege. Why protect sexual harassers? 586 00:11:26,069 --> 00:11:26,079 privilege. Why protect sexual harassers? 587 00:11:26,079 --> 00:11:28,069 privilege. Why protect sexual harassers? even if it's just a dumb internet job. 588 00:11:28,069 --> 00:11:28,079 even if it's just a dumb internet job. 589 00:11:28,079 --> 00:11:30,470 even if it's just a dumb internet job. And I know this all sucks. Hearing this 590 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:30,480 And I know this all sucks. Hearing this 591 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,389 And I know this all sucks. Hearing this is probably gonna suck. Working on this 592 00:11:32,389 --> 00:11:32,399 is probably gonna suck. Working on this 593 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:34,310 is probably gonna suck. Working on this video has sucked real bad. I've cried a 594 00:11:34,310 --> 00:11:34,320 video has sucked real bad. I've cried a 595 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,870 video has sucked real bad. I've cried a lot. But it seems like that miners are 596 00:11:36,870 --> 00:11:36,880 lot. But it seems like that miners are 597 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,430 lot. But it seems like that miners are in threat of being prayed on. Will 598 00:11:39,430 --> 00:11:39,440 in threat of being prayed on. Will 599 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,350 in threat of being prayed on. Will himself has done some suspicious 600 00:11:41,350 --> 00:11:41,360 himself has done some suspicious 601 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,190 himself has done some suspicious behavior and it seems like nothing's 602 00:11:43,190 --> 00:11:43,200 behavior and it seems like nothing's 603 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,790 behavior and it seems like nothing's going to change unless it's talked about 604 00:11:44,790 --> 00:11:44,800 going to change unless it's talked about 605 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,310 going to change unless it's talked about in a bigger way. I'm as mad as hell and 606 00:11:48,310 --> 00:11:48,320 in a bigger way. I'm as mad as hell and 607 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,630 in a bigger way. I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore. So 608 00:11:50,630 --> 00:11:50,640 I'm not going to take this anymore. So 609 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,389 I'm not going to take this anymore. So that's why we're here. Part zero. 610 00:11:52,389 --> 00:11:52,399 that's why we're here. Part zero. 611 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:54,389 that's why we're here. Part zero. Disproing KP rep. For some reason, 612 00:11:54,389 --> 00:11:54,399 Disproing KP rep. For some reason, 613 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:56,389 Disproing KP rep. For some reason, people think I'm unqualified to do this 614 00:11:56,389 --> 00:11:56,399 people think I'm unqualified to do this 615 00:11:56,399 --> 00:11:58,470 people think I'm unqualified to do this or have false information about things 616 00:11:58,470 --> 00:11:58,480 or have false information about things 617 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,150 or have false information about things that have happened in the past they are 618 00:12:00,150 --> 00:12:00,160 that have happened in the past they are 619 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,150 that have happened in the past they are using to make a judgment on this case 620 00:12:02,150 --> 00:12:02,160 using to make a judgment on this case 621 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,389 using to make a judgment on this case and that's concerning. So, let's go 622 00:12:04,389 --> 00:12:04,399 and that's concerning. So, let's go 623 00:12:04,399 --> 00:12:07,269 and that's concerning. So, let's go ahead and disprove some KP is bad stuff. 624 00:12:07,269 --> 00:12:07,279 ahead and disprove some KP is bad stuff. 625 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:09,430 ahead and disprove some KP is bad stuff. For example, when this was trending on 626 00:12:09,430 --> 00:12:09,440 For example, when this was trending on 627 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,990 For example, when this was trending on Reddit, I got comments like this. And if 628 00:12:11,990 --> 00:12:12,000 Reddit, I got comments like this. And if 629 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,670 Reddit, I got comments like this. And if that's still not enough for you, listen 630 00:12:13,670 --> 00:12:13,680 that's still not enough for you, listen 631 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:16,470 that's still not enough for you, listen to this. And another aspect that I 632 00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:16,480 to this. And another aspect that I 633 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,310 to this. And another aspect that I didn't really take into account until 634 00:12:18,310 --> 00:12:18,320 didn't really take into account until 635 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,550 didn't really take into account until rather recently is that on top of all 636 00:12:20,550 --> 00:12:20,560 rather recently is that on top of all 637 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:22,310 rather recently is that on top of all the work that the team members are 638 00:12:22,310 --> 00:12:22,320 the work that the team members are 639 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,230 the work that the team members are having to do, there's something to be 640 00:12:24,230 --> 00:12:24,240 having to do, there's something to be 641 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,310 having to do, there's something to be said for all the work that goes into 642 00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:26,320 said for all the work that goes into 643 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,230 said for all the work that goes into managing those team members. I can't 644 00:12:29,230 --> 00:12:29,240 managing those team members. I can't 645 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,389 managing those team members. I can't imagine it must be an easy job because 646 00:12:32,389 --> 00:12:32,399 imagine it must be an easy job because 647 00:12:32,399 --> 00:12:34,710 imagine it must be an easy job because you have to make sure that everyone is 648 00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:34,720 you have to make sure that everyone is 649 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,350 you have to make sure that everyone is on the same page with everything all the 650 00:12:37,350 --> 00:12:37,360 on the same page with everything all the 651 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,829 on the same page with everything all the time. Everyone's keeping up to date with 652 00:12:39,829 --> 00:12:39,839 time. Everyone's keeping up to date with 653 00:12:39,839 --> 00:12:42,230 time. Everyone's keeping up to date with progress and is generally handing things 654 00:12:42,230 --> 00:12:42,240 progress and is generally handing things 655 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,710 progress and is generally handing things in on time, all while trying to keep 656 00:12:44,710 --> 00:12:44,720 in on time, all while trying to keep 657 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,030 in on time, all while trying to keep them happy and make them feel like 658 00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:47,040 them happy and make them feel like 659 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,550 them happy and make them feel like they're in a positive working 660 00:12:48,550 --> 00:12:48,560 they're in a positive working 661 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:50,710 they're in a positive working environment. And at that point, I said, 662 00:12:50,710 --> 00:12:50,720 environment. And at that point, I said, 663 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,710 environment. And at that point, I said, "Look, I'm sorry I couldn't finish it, 664 00:12:52,710 --> 00:12:52,720 "Look, I'm sorry I couldn't finish it, 665 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,790 "Look, I'm sorry I couldn't finish it, but I need to get back to my other 666 00:12:54,790 --> 00:12:54,800 but I need to get back to my other 667 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,550 but I need to get back to my other work." And KP, she let me go. She didn't 668 00:12:58,550 --> 00:12:58,560 work." And KP, she let me go. She didn't 669 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,310 work." And KP, she let me go. She didn't force me to stay. She didn't say, "Oh, 670 00:13:00,310 --> 00:13:00,320 force me to stay. She didn't say, "Oh, 671 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,069 force me to stay. She didn't say, "Oh, you have to keep working for me." She 672 00:13:02,069 --> 00:13:02,079 you have to keep working for me." She 673 00:13:02,079 --> 00:13:04,470 you have to keep working for me." She said, "Okay, you can go. Maybe I'll 674 00:13:04,470 --> 00:13:04,480 said, "Okay, you can go. Maybe I'll 675 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:05,910 said, "Okay, you can go. Maybe I'll contact you again later when you're not 676 00:13:05,910 --> 00:13:05,920 contact you again later when you're not 677 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,069 contact you again later when you're not busy." started a channel to spread her 678 00:13:08,069 --> 00:13:08,079 busy." started a channel to spread her 679 00:13:08,079 --> 00:13:11,670 busy." started a channel to spread her opinions and built a team around her. 680 00:13:11,670 --> 00:13:11,680 opinions and built a team around her. 681 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:13,990 opinions and built a team around her. I've seen her make mistakes, take them 682 00:13:13,990 --> 00:13:14,000 I've seen her make mistakes, take them 683 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,790 I've seen her make mistakes, take them to heart, and return improved. She is a 684 00:13:16,790 --> 00:13:16,800 to heart, and return improved. She is a 685 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,150 to heart, and return improved. She is a leader, so she must lead in the way she 686 00:13:20,150 --> 00:13:20,160 leader, so she must lead in the way she 687 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,629 leader, so she must lead in the way she knows. But she is always ready to listen 688 00:13:22,629 --> 00:13:22,639 knows. But she is always ready to listen 689 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:25,350 knows. But she is always ready to listen to help, and when she is unsure, seek 690 00:13:25,350 --> 00:13:25,360 to help, and when she is unsure, seek 691 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,670 to help, and when she is unsure, seek advice herself. In the wake of all of 692 00:13:27,670 --> 00:13:27,680 advice herself. In the wake of all of 693 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:29,269 advice herself. In the wake of all of this, I had the privilege of meeting 694 00:13:29,269 --> 00:13:29,279 this, I had the privilege of meeting 695 00:13:29,279 --> 00:13:31,590 this, I had the privilege of meeting some of team KP, to which my initial 696 00:13:31,590 --> 00:13:31,600 some of team KP, to which my initial 697 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,949 some of team KP, to which my initial reaction was, she still has a staff. And 698 00:13:34,949 --> 00:13:34,959 reaction was, she still has a staff. And 699 00:13:34,959 --> 00:13:37,590 reaction was, she still has a staff. And it's true. Bunch of real sweethearts who 700 00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:37,600 it's true. Bunch of real sweethearts who 701 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,069 it's true. Bunch of real sweethearts who in defiance of Twitter reason, common 702 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:40,079 in defiance of Twitter reason, common 703 00:13:40,079 --> 00:13:42,550 in defiance of Twitter reason, common sense, and probable human resource 704 00:13:42,550 --> 00:13:42,560 sense, and probable human resource 705 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:45,110 sense, and probable human resource statutes. Actually, still love I love 706 00:13:45,110 --> 00:13:45,120 statutes. Actually, still love I love 707 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,069 statutes. Actually, still love I love Impossible a lot. A lot. And take my 708 00:13:48,069 --> 00:13:48,079 Impossible a lot. A lot. And take my 709 00:13:48,079 --> 00:13:49,990 Impossible a lot. A lot. And take my word for it. They were just as nonplused 710 00:13:49,990 --> 00:13:50,000 word for it. They were just as nonplused 711 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,550 word for it. They were just as nonplused about all this leaks business as anyone. 712 00:13:52,550 --> 00:13:52,560 about all this leaks business as anyone. 713 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:54,389 about all this leaks business as anyone. Actually, no, don't take my word for it. 714 00:13:54,389 --> 00:13:54,399 Actually, no, don't take my word for it. 715 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:56,069 Actually, no, don't take my word for it. Why not go check out their page and get 716 00:13:56,069 --> 00:13:56,079 Why not go check out their page and get 717 00:13:56,079 --> 00:13:57,750 Why not go check out their page and get it from the various horses mouths 718 00:13:57,750 --> 00:13:57,760 it from the various horses mouths 719 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,310 it from the various horses mouths yourself, darling people. The whole 720 00:14:00,310 --> 00:14:00,320 yourself, darling people. The whole 721 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,590 yourself, darling people. The whole Anonkp leak situation is as follows. I 722 00:14:03,590 --> 00:14:03,600 Anonkp leak situation is as follows. I 723 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,150 Anonkp leak situation is as follows. I do not regret making it because at the 724 00:14:06,150 --> 00:14:06,160 do not regret making it because at the 725 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,470 do not regret making it because at the time I truly believed I was doing 726 00:14:08,470 --> 00:14:08,480 time I truly believed I was doing 727 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,990 time I truly believed I was doing something for the better 728 00:14:10,990 --> 00:14:11,000 something for the better 729 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,949 something for the better good. Michael, this is illegal. 730 00:14:14,949 --> 00:14:14,959 good. Michael, this is illegal. 731 00:14:14,959 --> 00:14:17,110 good. Michael, this is illegal. Did you really think no one would check? 732 00:14:17,110 --> 00:14:17,120 Did you really think no one would check? 733 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,030 Did you really think no one would check? Why do you work for iTunes? I guess 734 00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:19,040 Why do you work for iTunes? I guess 735 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,949 Why do you work for iTunes? I guess never underestimate the power of too 736 00:14:20,949 --> 00:14:20,959 never underestimate the power of too 737 00:14:20,959 --> 00:14:23,910 never underestimate the power of too long didn't read. Can I get paid now, 738 00:14:23,910 --> 00:14:23,920 long didn't read. Can I get paid now, 739 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,509 long didn't read. Can I get paid now, Rachel? For those playing at home, the 740 00:14:26,509 --> 00:14:26,519 Rachel? For those playing at home, the 741 00:14:26,519 --> 00:14:31,430 Rachel? For those playing at home, the TLDDR is that this is utter nonsense. 742 00:14:31,430 --> 00:14:31,440 TLDDR is that this is utter nonsense. 743 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,710 TLDDR is that this is utter nonsense. especially this bit. But KP, what about 744 00:14:34,710 --> 00:14:34,720 especially this bit. But KP, what about 745 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,550 especially this bit. But KP, what about this? She was exposed as a manipulator 746 00:14:38,550 --> 00:14:38,560 this? She was exposed as a manipulator 747 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,790 this? She was exposed as a manipulator and a user. Uh, somehow she managed to 748 00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:42,800 and a user. Uh, somehow she managed to 749 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,829 and a user. Uh, somehow she managed to get an entire team of people to get to 750 00:14:45,829 --> 00:14:45,839 get an entire team of people to get to 751 00:14:45,839 --> 00:14:49,189 get an entire team of people to get to work on her projects. Only they didn't 752 00:14:49,189 --> 00:14:49,199 work on her projects. Only they didn't 753 00:14:49,199 --> 00:14:52,389 work on her projects. Only they didn't get any compensation for it. God forbid 754 00:14:52,389 --> 00:14:52,399 get any compensation for it. God forbid 755 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:54,230 get any compensation for it. God forbid people have hobbies. I guess every 756 00:14:54,230 --> 00:14:54,240 people have hobbies. I guess every 757 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,430 people have hobbies. I guess every reanimated is just an anti- capitalism 758 00:14:56,430 --> 00:14:56,440 reanimated is just an anti- capitalism 759 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,910 reanimated is just an anti- capitalism abomination discussed at length here. I 760 00:14:59,910 --> 00:14:59,920 abomination discussed at length here. I 761 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:01,829 abomination discussed at length here. I remember watching a video that she 762 00:15:01,829 --> 00:15:01,839 remember watching a video that she 763 00:15:01,839 --> 00:15:04,710 remember watching a video that she posted on YouTube a couple of year back. 764 00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:04,720 posted on YouTube a couple of year back. 765 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,189 posted on YouTube a couple of year back. It was a long drawn up video about how 766 00:15:07,189 --> 00:15:07,199 It was a long drawn up video about how 767 00:15:07,199 --> 00:15:09,189 It was a long drawn up video about how she was almost cancelled from the 768 00:15:09,189 --> 00:15:09,199 she was almost cancelled from the 769 00:15:09,199 --> 00:15:12,629 she was almost cancelled from the community and how she was a victim of 770 00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:12,639 community and how she was a victim of 771 00:15:12,639 --> 00:15:16,110 community and how she was a victim of stalking and her struggles with 772 00:15:16,110 --> 00:15:16,120 stalking and her struggles with 773 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,870 stalking and her struggles with PTSD, which she brings up like every 774 00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:18,880 PTSD, which she brings up like every 775 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,509 PTSD, which she brings up like every time she gets the opportunity. Like 776 00:15:21,509 --> 00:15:21,519 time she gets the opportunity. Like 777 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:23,670 time she gets the opportunity. Like what? Shaming trauma victims probably 778 00:15:23,670 --> 00:15:23,680 what? Shaming trauma victims probably 779 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,670 what? Shaming trauma victims probably wasn't your best move, my guy. Just 780 00:15:25,670 --> 00:15:25,680 wasn't your best move, my guy. Just 781 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,670 wasn't your best move, my guy. Just saying. She probably thought that 782 00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:27,680 saying. She probably thought that 783 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,230 saying. She probably thought that because the fandom had died down a bit. 784 00:15:30,230 --> 00:15:30,240 because the fandom had died down a bit. 785 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,110 because the fandom had died down a bit. Nobody would got on the 786 00:15:32,110 --> 00:15:32,120 Nobody would got on the 787 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,790 Nobody would got on the attack. She also had like a Twitter 788 00:15:34,790 --> 00:15:34,800 attack. She also had like a Twitter 789 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,829 attack. She also had like a Twitter meltdown when she had to pay like for 790 00:15:37,829 --> 00:15:37,839 meltdown when she had to pay like for 791 00:15:37,839 --> 00:15:41,910 meltdown when she had to pay like for her own way into Brenon. I think I can't 792 00:15:41,910 --> 00:15:41,920 her own way into Brenon. I think I can't 793 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,389 her own way into Brenon. I think I can't remember which 794 00:15:43,389 --> 00:15:43,399 remember which 795 00:15:43,399 --> 00:15:45,509 remember which convention cuz I didn't bother 796 00:15:45,509 --> 00:15:45,519 convention cuz I didn't bother 797 00:15:45,519 --> 00:15:48,629 convention cuz I didn't bother factchecking. Whereas other members of 798 00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:48,639 factchecking. Whereas other members of 799 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:51,749 factchecking. Whereas other members of the Banelis's committee like Silverquil 800 00:15:51,749 --> 00:15:51,759 the Banelis's committee like Silverquil 801 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:55,670 the Banelis's committee like Silverquil got in for free. Really goes to show how 802 00:15:55,670 --> 00:15:55,680 got in for free. Really goes to show how 803 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,470 got in for free. Really goes to show how much of a tight-knit group they all are 804 00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:58,480 much of a tight-knit group they all are 805 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,949 much of a tight-knit group they all are when it comes to preaching about love 806 00:16:00,949 --> 00:16:00,959 when it comes to preaching about love 807 00:16:00,959 --> 00:16:04,069 when it comes to preaching about love and tolerance. Like peace. That's not 808 00:16:04,069 --> 00:16:04,079 and tolerance. Like peace. That's not 809 00:16:04,079 --> 00:16:07,590 and tolerance. Like peace. That's not what happened. Wrong. I was frustrated 810 00:16:07,590 --> 00:16:07,600 what happened. Wrong. I was frustrated 811 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,350 what happened. Wrong. I was frustrated that Bronycon changed their minds about 812 00:16:09,350 --> 00:16:09,360 that Bronycon changed their minds about 813 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:10,949 that Bronycon changed their minds about my guest spot based on false 814 00:16:10,949 --> 00:16:10,959 my guest spot based on false 815 00:16:10,959 --> 00:16:12,870 my guest spot based on false information. And they were informed it 816 00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:12,880 information. And they were informed it 817 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,629 information. And they were informed it was false information from another 818 00:16:14,629 --> 00:16:14,639 was false information from another 819 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:17,110 was false information from another convention head. It's very victim blamy. 820 00:16:17,110 --> 00:16:17,120 convention head. It's very victim blamy. 821 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,350 convention head. It's very victim blamy. More details here, which probably 822 00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:19,360 More details here, which probably 823 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,230 More details here, which probably explains why people don't see her much 824 00:16:22,230 --> 00:16:22,240 explains why people don't see her much 825 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,990 explains why people don't see her much after that with other committee 826 00:16:24,990 --> 00:16:25,000 after that with other committee 827 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,550 after that with other committee members. All in all, KB just strikes me 828 00:16:28,550 --> 00:16:28,560 members. All in all, KB just strikes me 829 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,430 members. All in all, KB just strikes me as just another individual who 830 00:16:31,430 --> 00:16:31,440 as just another individual who 831 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,550 as just another individual who constantly acts like a spoiled child who 832 00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:34,560 constantly acts like a spoiled child who 833 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,470 constantly acts like a spoiled child who acts out when they can't get what they 834 00:16:36,470 --> 00:16:36,480 acts out when they can't get what they 835 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,790 acts out when they can't get what they want. This guy obviously doesn't know me 836 00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:38,800 want. This guy obviously doesn't know me 837 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,870 want. This guy obviously doesn't know me because it's not really my character. 838 00:16:40,870 --> 00:16:40,880 because it's not really my character. 839 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,670 because it's not really my character. These types of individuals believe that 840 00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:43,680 These types of individuals believe that 841 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,550 These types of individuals believe that everything should be like handed to them 842 00:16:46,550 --> 00:16:46,560 everything should be like handed to them 843 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,189 everything should be like handed to them with little or no effort simply because 844 00:16:49,189 --> 00:16:49,199 with little or no effort simply because 845 00:16:49,199 --> 00:16:52,110 with little or no effort simply because they're recognized in a group or 846 00:16:52,110 --> 00:16:52,120 they're recognized in a group or 847 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,230 they're recognized in a group or community. I know it sounds like I'm 848 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:54,240 community. I know it sounds like I'm 849 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,670 community. I know it sounds like I'm saying like # burn the witch, but my 850 00:16:57,670 --> 00:16:57,680 saying like # burn the witch, but my 851 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,990 saying like # burn the witch, but my actual point is she's just another 852 00:16:59,990 --> 00:17:00,000 actual point is she's just another 853 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,470 actual point is she's just another example of what happens when you let 854 00:17:02,470 --> 00:17:02,480 example of what happens when you let 855 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,990 example of what happens when you let internet or in this case horse fame go 856 00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:06,000 internet or in this case horse fame go 857 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,549 internet or in this case horse fame go to your head. Why would we work so hard 858 00:17:08,549 --> 00:17:08,559 to your head. Why would we work so hard 859 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:10,470 to your head. Why would we work so hard on dumb little horse videos if they 860 00:17:10,470 --> 00:17:10,480 on dumb little horse videos if they 861 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,029 on dumb little horse videos if they weren't fun? Because art and media are 862 00:17:13,029 --> 00:17:13,039 weren't fun? Because art and media are 863 00:17:13,039 --> 00:17:15,429 weren't fun? Because art and media are definitely only made for attention. More 864 00:17:15,429 --> 00:17:15,439 definitely only made for attention. More 865 00:17:15,439 --> 00:17:19,029 definitely only made for attention. More details here. Make me your horse god. I 866 00:17:19,029 --> 00:17:19,039 details here. Make me your horse god. I 867 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:22,710 details here. Make me your horse god. I am your god now. Bring me your virgins. 868 00:17:22,710 --> 00:17:22,720 am your god now. Bring me your virgins. 869 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,470 am your god now. Bring me your virgins. This is a confrontation between someone 870 00:17:24,470 --> 00:17:24,480 This is a confrontation between someone 871 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,710 This is a confrontation between someone who is supposed to be helping the team 872 00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:26,720 who is supposed to be helping the team 873 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,789 who is supposed to be helping the team but was actively leaking assets to the 874 00:17:28,789 --> 00:17:28,799 but was actively leaking assets to the 875 00:17:28,799 --> 00:17:31,190 but was actively leaking assets to the team and lying about it. And then they 876 00:17:31,190 --> 00:17:31,200 team and lying about it. And then they 877 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,029 team and lying about it. And then they were caught. You can guess how this 878 00:17:33,029 --> 00:17:33,039 were caught. You can guess how this 879 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:35,350 were caught. You can guess how this confrontation goes. But ladies and 880 00:17:35,350 --> 00:17:35,360 confrontation goes. But ladies and 881 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:38,070 confrontation goes. But ladies and gentlemen, the day Zay minded. For more 882 00:17:38,070 --> 00:17:38,080 gentlemen, the day Zay minded. For more 883 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,150 gentlemen, the day Zay minded. For more context, Zayn, the head of the team at 884 00:17:40,150 --> 00:17:40,160 context, Zayn, the head of the team at 885 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,789 context, Zayn, the head of the team at the time, is a pretty soft-spoken guy. 886 00:17:42,789 --> 00:17:42,799 the time, is a pretty soft-spoken guy. 887 00:17:42,799 --> 00:17:44,710 the time, is a pretty soft-spoken guy. So, this is the maddest I've ever seen 888 00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:44,720 So, this is the maddest I've ever seen 889 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,000 So, this is the maddest I've ever seen him. 890 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:46,010 him. 891 00:17:46,010 --> 00:17:50,950 him. [Music] 892 00:17:50,950 --> 00:17:50,960 893 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,110 Can do you mind if we take it from here? 894 00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:53,120 Can do you mind if we take it from here? 895 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:56,470 Can do you mind if we take it from here? Me and Yeah. Because quite frankly, what 896 00:17:56,470 --> 00:17:56,480 Me and Yeah. Because quite frankly, what 897 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,230 Me and Yeah. Because quite frankly, what the messages were were a betrayal to the 898 00:18:00,230 --> 00:18:00,240 the messages were were a betrayal to the 899 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,110 the messages were were a betrayal to the team that you claim to represent. I 900 00:18:03,110 --> 00:18:03,120 team that you claim to represent. I 901 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:05,430 team that you claim to represent. I would say less so a betrayal to Rachel. 902 00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:05,440 would say less so a betrayal to Rachel. 903 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,830 would say less so a betrayal to Rachel. Still still a betrayal though. But quite 904 00:18:07,830 --> 00:18:07,840 Still still a betrayal though. But quite 905 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,310 Still still a betrayal though. But quite frankly, I'm 906 00:18:09,310 --> 00:18:09,320 frankly, I'm 907 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,669 frankly, I'm insulted by what you you chose to do. I 908 00:18:13,669 --> 00:18:13,679 insulted by what you you chose to do. I 909 00:18:13,679 --> 00:18:16,110 insulted by what you you chose to do. I you you sat there, you 910 00:18:16,110 --> 00:18:16,120 you you sat there, you 911 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:19,430 you you sat there, you claimed to be representing the team. You 912 00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:19,440 claimed to be representing the team. You 913 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,190 claimed to be representing the team. You claimed to be wanting to improve the 914 00:18:22,190 --> 00:18:22,200 claimed to be wanting to improve the 915 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,350 claimed to be wanting to improve the team and you sat there and you lied to 916 00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:25,360 team and you sat there and you lied to 917 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:30,150 team and you sat there and you lied to our face. Okay, now I'm [\h__\h] lost for 918 00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:30,160 our face. Okay, now I'm [\h__\h] lost for 919 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,270 our face. Okay, now I'm [\h__\h] lost for words. And the fact that I gave What the 920 00:18:33,270 --> 00:18:33,280 words. And the fact that I gave What the 921 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,909 words. And the fact that I gave What the [\h__\h] made you think that that was okay? 922 00:18:36,909 --> 00:18:36,919 [\h__\h] made you think that that was okay? 923 00:18:36,919 --> 00:18:40,590 [\h__\h] made you think that that was okay? Like how did you think you were helping? 924 00:18:40,590 --> 00:18:40,600 Like how did you think you were helping? 925 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,190 Like how did you think you were helping? How what the [\h__\h] have you got to say to 926 00:18:44,190 --> 00:18:44,200 How what the [\h__\h] have you got to say to 927 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,710 How what the [\h__\h] have you got to say to yourself? And then even now I gave you 928 00:18:46,710 --> 00:18:46,720 yourself? And then even now I gave you 929 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,150 yourself? And then even now I gave you the chance to come clean and say, "Is 930 00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:48,160 the chance to come clean and say, "Is 931 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,789 the chance to come clean and say, "Is there anything you want to 932 00:18:49,789 --> 00:18:49,799 there anything you want to 933 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:53,590 there anything you want to say?" And you didn't say anything. And 934 00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:53,600 say?" And you didn't say anything. And 935 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,230 say?" And you didn't say anything. And you're you were denying it until I said, 936 00:18:56,230 --> 00:18:56,240 you're you were denying it until I said, 937 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,590 you're you were denying it until I said, "I have access. I see everything." 938 00:18:59,590 --> 00:18:59,600 "I have access. I see everything." 939 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,990 "I have access. I see everything." Initially, you can see that maybe your 940 00:19:01,990 --> 00:19:02,000 Initially, you can see that maybe your 941 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,230 Initially, you can see that maybe your intentions were good, but there's 942 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:04,240 intentions were good, but there's 943 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,470 intentions were good, but there's absolutely no [\h__\h] denying the fact 944 00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:06,480 absolutely no [\h__\h] denying the fact 945 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,390 absolutely no [\h__\h] denying the fact that by the end of that, not even by the 946 00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:08,400 that by the end of that, not even by the 947 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,230 that by the end of that, not even by the end of it, part halfway through, at the 948 00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:10,240 end of it, part halfway through, at the 949 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,029 end of it, part halfway through, at the very least, there was no denying that. 950 00:19:13,029 --> 00:19:13,039 very least, there was no denying that. 951 00:19:13,039 --> 00:19:14,710 very least, there was no denying that. That's the my problem. You claimed that 952 00:19:14,710 --> 00:19:14,720 That's the my problem. You claimed that 953 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,830 That's the my problem. You claimed that you were doing this for us. And yet, you 954 00:19:17,830 --> 00:19:17,840 you were doing this for us. And yet, you 955 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,830 you were doing this for us. And yet, you sat there and lied to us. You lied to 956 00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:19,840 sat there and lied to us. You lied to 957 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,230 sat there and lied to us. You lied to me. You lied to every single person in 958 00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:22,240 me. You lied to every single person in 959 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,789 me. You lied to every single person in that group. We sat there and we said, 960 00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:24,799 that group. We sat there and we said, 961 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:26,789 that group. We sat there and we said, "Can we trust everyone in this group?" 962 00:19:26,789 --> 00:19:26,799 "Can we trust everyone in this group?" 963 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:28,710 "Can we trust everyone in this group?" And you sat there and said, "Yes." You 964 00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:28,720 And you sat there and said, "Yes." You 965 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,590 And you sat there and said, "Yes." You betrayed the 966 00:19:30,590 --> 00:19:30,600 betrayed the 967 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,630 betrayed the team. Okay, you betrayed [\h__\h] me 968 00:19:33,630 --> 00:19:33,640 team. Okay, you betrayed [\h__\h] me 969 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,470 team. Okay, you betrayed [\h__\h] me personally. I'm taking that personally. 970 00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:36,480 personally. I'm taking that personally. 971 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,870 personally. I'm taking that personally. You sat there and you told them Zayn is 972 00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:38,880 You sat there and you told them Zayn is 973 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,990 You sat there and you told them Zayn is about to upload that video. And what did 974 00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:42,000 about to upload that video. And what did 975 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,310 about to upload that video. And what did you hope to achieve? It happened that I 976 00:19:44,310 --> 00:19:44,320 you hope to achieve? It happened that I 977 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,230 you hope to achieve? It happened that I was preparing that video and that's when 978 00:19:46,230 --> 00:19:46,240 was preparing that video and that's when 979 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,909 was preparing that video and that's when I told you, by the way, we're putting it 980 00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:47,919 I told you, by the way, we're putting it 981 00:19:47,919 --> 00:19:50,070 I told you, by the way, we're putting it back up. We made that decision weeks 982 00:19:50,070 --> 00:19:50,080 back up. We made that decision weeks 983 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,470 back up. We made that decision weeks ago. We made that decision when we 984 00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:52,480 ago. We made that decision when we 985 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,750 ago. We made that decision when we posted it in the radio play chat when 986 00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:55,760 posted it in the radio play chat when 987 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,350 posted it in the radio play chat when people was said explained that we're not 988 00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:57,360 people was said explained that we're not 989 00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:59,350 people was said explained that we're not happy. We said, "Yes, we have a video 990 00:19:59,350 --> 00:19:59,360 happy. We said, "Yes, we have a video 991 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:01,909 happy. We said, "Yes, we have a video ready. We'll upload it in a few weeks." 992 00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:01,919 ready. We'll upload it in a few weeks." 993 00:20:01,919 --> 00:20:05,029 ready. We'll upload it in a few weeks." That's why that video was going up. Did 994 00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:05,039 That's why that video was going up. Did 995 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:06,909 That's why that video was going up. Did you ask me? 996 00:20:06,909 --> 00:20:06,919 you ask me? 997 00:20:06,919 --> 00:20:11,350 you ask me? No. Did you think that maybe maybe a bit 998 00:20:11,350 --> 00:20:11,360 No. Did you think that maybe maybe a bit 999 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:13,590 No. Did you think that maybe maybe a bit more something better could come out of 1000 00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:13,600 more something better could come out of 1001 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,870 more something better could come out of this if you [\h__\h] talk to 1002 00:20:15,870 --> 00:20:15,880 this if you [\h__\h] talk to 1003 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,430 this if you [\h__\h] talk to us? Okay. Nothing good came out of that 1004 00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:19,440 us? Okay. Nothing good came out of that 1005 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,070 us? Okay. Nothing good came out of that group. Nothing grew. Sorry, that 1006 00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:22,080 group. Nothing grew. Sorry, that 1007 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,789 group. Nothing grew. Sorry, that Twitter. 1008 00:20:23,789 --> 00:20:23,799 Twitter. 1009 00:20:23,799 --> 00:20:26,230 Twitter. Nothing. You know what good came out of 1010 00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:26,240 Nothing. You know what good came out of 1011 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,350 Nothing. You know what good came out of this? the Skype group, the group of 1012 00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:29,360 this? the Skype group, the group of 1013 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:32,310 this? the Skype group, the group of people that sat down like grown men and 1014 00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:32,320 people that sat down like grown men and 1015 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,470 people that sat down like grown men and [\h__\h] wrote down their 1016 00:20:35,470 --> 00:20:35,480 [\h__\h] wrote down their 1017 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,990 [\h__\h] wrote down their complaints. Nothing good from that Skype 1018 00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:38,000 complaints. Nothing good from that Skype 1019 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,669 complaints. Nothing good from that Skype chat. Do you want to know what everybody 1020 00:20:39,669 --> 00:20:39,679 chat. Do you want to know what everybody 1021 00:20:39,679 --> 00:20:41,590 chat. Do you want to know what everybody else on the team the only two people 1022 00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:41,600 else on the team the only two people 1023 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,830 else on the team the only two people that have said anything bad to those to 1024 00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:43,840 that have said anything bad to those to 1025 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,149 that have said anything bad to those to the N on Twitter are the two people in 1026 00:20:46,149 --> 00:20:46,159 the N on Twitter are the two people in 1027 00:20:46,159 --> 00:20:48,310 the N on Twitter are the two people in that group not on the current team. Do 1028 00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:48,320 that group not on the current team. Do 1029 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,149 that group not on the current team. Do you know what everybody else has said to 1030 00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:50,159 you know what everybody else has said to 1031 00:20:50,159 --> 00:20:53,590 you know what everybody else has said to that Twitter? They [\h__\h] said [\h__\h] off 1032 00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:53,600 that Twitter? They [\h__\h] said [\h__\h] off 1033 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,390 that Twitter? They [\h__\h] said [\h__\h] off because you're not helping. You are 1034 00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:56,400 because you're not helping. You are 1035 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,870 because you're not helping. You are literally here to be malicious. You're 1036 00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:58,880 literally here to be malicious. You're 1037 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,630 literally here to be malicious. You're here to tease Rachel. You are here to 1038 00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:02,640 here to tease Rachel. You are here to 1039 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,230 here to tease Rachel. You are here to nag at her. The There is no defending 1040 00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:06,240 nag at her. The There is no defending 1041 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,669 nag at her. The There is no defending it. That Twitter is universally accepted 1042 00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:09,679 it. That Twitter is universally accepted 1043 00:21:09,679 --> 00:21:12,270 it. That Twitter is universally accepted not to have been a good thing. The 1044 00:21:12,270 --> 00:21:12,280 not to have been a good thing. The 1045 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,270 not to have been a good thing. The entire team while you were in that group 1046 00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:15,280 entire team while you were in that group 1047 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,430 entire team while you were in that group was saying that these guys are 1048 00:21:18,430 --> 00:21:18,440 was saying that these guys are 1049 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,789 was saying that these guys are dicks. Nobody on the team supported 1050 00:21:21,789 --> 00:21:21,799 dicks. Nobody on the team supported 1051 00:21:21,799 --> 00:21:25,350 dicks. Nobody on the team supported them. And yet here you are claiming to 1052 00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:25,360 them. And yet here you are claiming to 1053 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:28,230 them. And yet here you are claiming to represent the team and supporting them 1054 00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:28,240 represent the team and supporting them 1055 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,390 represent the team and supporting them and lying to the rest of the team while 1056 00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:30,400 and lying to the rest of the team while 1057 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,270 and lying to the rest of the team while you do it. Part one, the original 1058 00:21:33,270 --> 00:21:33,280 you do it. Part one, the original 1059 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,510 you do it. Part one, the original incident with Chris. Something I also 1060 00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:35,520 incident with Chris. Something I also 1061 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,669 incident with Chris. Something I also wasn't aware of is that Will made a 1062 00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:37,679 wasn't aware of is that Will made a 1063 00:21:37,679 --> 00:21:39,990 wasn't aware of is that Will made a statement after his team member Bogs, 1064 00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:40,000 statement after his team member Bogs, 1065 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,909 statement after his team member Bogs, you know, the one who was harassing me 1066 00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:41,919 you know, the one who was harassing me 1067 00:21:41,919 --> 00:21:45,190 you know, the one who was harassing me was fired. It doesn't mention me or that 1068 00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:45,200 was fired. It doesn't mention me or that 1069 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,510 was fired. It doesn't mention me or that there was any victim or even what he did 1070 00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:47,520 there was any victim or even what he did 1071 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,149 there was any victim or even what he did was bad. Will even calls him a great 1072 00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:50,159 was bad. Will even calls him a great 1073 00:21:50,159 --> 00:21:52,630 was bad. Will even calls him a great person. So, starting off on a real high 1074 00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:52,640 person. So, starting off on a real high 1075 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,270 person. So, starting off on a real high note there, is no longer a member of DA 1076 00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:55,280 note there, is no longer a member of DA 1077 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,950 note there, is no longer a member of DA Games. Uh, he's still a very good friend 1078 00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:56,960 Games. Uh, he's still a very good friend 1079 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,750 Games. Uh, he's still a very good friend of ours. Um, like especially me, like I 1080 00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:59,760 of ours. Um, like especially me, like I 1081 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,510 of ours. Um, like especially me, like I will sometimes DM him. We'll be on 1082 00:22:01,510 --> 00:22:01,520 will sometimes DM him. We'll be on 1083 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,750 will sometimes DM him. We'll be on Twitter, the big tweeter sometimes, but 1084 00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:03,760 Twitter, the big tweeter sometimes, but 1085 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,350 Twitter, the big tweeter sometimes, but I'm not one for grudges. I don't do 1086 00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:05,360 I'm not one for grudges. I don't do 1087 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:08,789 I'm not one for grudges. I don't do that. Um, so don't think this was on bad 1088 00:22:08,789 --> 00:22:08,799 that. Um, so don't think this was on bad 1089 00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:11,510 that. Um, so don't think this was on bad massive haste. Um, just a lot of backend 1090 00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:11,520 massive haste. Um, just a lot of backend 1091 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,270 massive haste. Um, just a lot of backend stuff that kind of conflicted with our 1092 00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:13,280 stuff that kind of conflicted with our 1093 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,590 stuff that kind of conflicted with our channel. There's a lot of things that uh 1094 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:15,600 channel. There's a lot of things that uh 1095 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,430 channel. There's a lot of things that uh didn't meet our requirements. the video 1096 00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:17,440 didn't meet our requirements. the video 1097 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,590 didn't meet our requirements. the video started getting worse and worse, but it 1098 00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:19,600 started getting worse and worse, but it 1099 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,270 started getting worse and worse, but it was more or less just I was pressuring 1100 00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:21,280 was more or less just I was pressuring 1101 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,110 was more or less just I was pressuring him a lot. There was a lot of things he 1102 00:22:23,110 --> 00:22:23,120 him a lot. There was a lot of things he 1103 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:24,310 him a lot. There was a lot of things he had to do and there just wasn't enough 1104 00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:24,320 had to do and there just wasn't enough 1105 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,470 had to do and there just wasn't enough taking time except for the situation 1106 00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:26,480 taking time except for the situation 1107 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,750 taking time except for the situation that we were going through. Come to 1108 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:27,760 that we were going through. Come to 1109 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,950 that we were going through. Come to mention it, there was a lot of like 1110 00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:28,960 mention it, there was a lot of like 1111 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,789 mention it, there was a lot of like things that maybe would have detrimented 1112 00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:30,799 things that maybe would have detrimented 1113 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:32,870 things that maybe would have detrimented us in the long run if we would have kept 1114 00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:32,880 us in the long run if we would have kept 1115 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,110 us in the long run if we would have kept this sort of conversation going. And I 1116 00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:35,120 this sort of conversation going. And I 1117 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:36,789 this sort of conversation going. And I don't want to bring in logistics because 1118 00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:36,799 don't want to bring in logistics because 1119 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:38,950 don't want to bring in logistics because that's not a thing that should I don't 1120 00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:38,960 that's not a thing that should I don't 1121 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,430 that's not a thing that should I don't want you hating the dude because he is a 1122 00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:41,440 want you hating the dude because he is a 1123 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,510 want you hating the dude because he is a fantastic being. He just did a lot of 1124 00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:43,520 fantastic being. He just did a lot of 1125 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,590 fantastic being. He just did a lot of wrong things and we we're all learning 1126 00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:45,600 wrong things and we we're all learning 1127 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,669 wrong things and we we're all learning from him each and every Yeah. So, I 1128 00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:47,679 from him each and every Yeah. So, I 1129 00:22:47,679 --> 00:22:49,510 from him each and every Yeah. So, I don't think there was any mistreatment 1130 00:22:49,510 --> 00:22:49,520 don't think there was any mistreatment 1131 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,110 don't think there was any mistreatment or I can't really explain why Chris 1132 00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:51,120 or I can't really explain why Chris 1133 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:52,549 or I can't really explain why Chris would be so frustrated enough to do 1134 00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:52,559 would be so frustrated enough to do 1135 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:55,029 would be so frustrated enough to do this. So, I brought my friend James who 1136 00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:55,039 this. So, I brought my friend James who 1137 00:22:55,039 --> 00:22:56,470 this. So, I brought my friend James who was on the team at the same time as 1138 00:22:56,470 --> 00:22:56,480 was on the team at the same time as 1139 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,549 was on the team at the same time as Chris to give some testimony. Hi, I'm 1140 00:22:58,549 --> 00:22:58,559 Chris to give some testimony. Hi, I'm 1141 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:00,549 Chris to give some testimony. Hi, I'm James. I used to work for KP and I was 1142 00:23:00,549 --> 00:23:00,559 James. I used to work for KP and I was 1143 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:02,549 James. I used to work for KP and I was the head editor of her first team. I 1144 00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:02,559 the head editor of her first team. I 1145 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:03,990 the head editor of her first team. I worked for her for about 2 to three 1146 00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:04,000 worked for her for about 2 to three 1147 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,669 worked for her for about 2 to three years and I was asked to give a 1148 00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:05,679 years and I was asked to give a 1149 00:23:05,679 --> 00:23:07,350 years and I was asked to give a statement on Chris's work ethic on the 1150 00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:07,360 statement on Chris's work ethic on the 1151 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:09,430 statement on Chris's work ethic on the team. Chris in particular was an 1152 00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:09,440 team. Chris in particular was an 1153 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,350 team. Chris in particular was an extremely good editor, usually doing 1154 00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:11,360 extremely good editor, usually doing 1155 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:13,110 extremely good editor, usually doing stuff the rest of the team couldn't do, 1156 00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:13,120 stuff the rest of the team couldn't do, 1157 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:15,590 stuff the rest of the team couldn't do, but he was inconsistent with time. I'm 1158 00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:15,600 but he was inconsistent with time. I'm 1159 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,110 but he was inconsistent with time. I'm coming out about Chris because in his 1160 00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:17,120 coming out about Chris because in his 1161 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:19,110 coming out about Chris because in his recent statement, Chris claimed 1162 00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:19,120 recent statement, Chris claimed 1163 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:20,789 recent statement, Chris claimed mistreatment by being on the team, but 1164 00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:20,799 mistreatment by being on the team, but 1165 00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:22,789 mistreatment by being on the team, but as someone who was there, it just seemed 1166 00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:22,799 as someone who was there, it just seemed 1167 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:24,710 as someone who was there, it just seemed like he had unhealthy and alternative 1168 00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:24,720 like he had unhealthy and alternative 1169 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,310 like he had unhealthy and alternative motivations, and it was clear that he 1170 00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:26,320 motivations, and it was clear that he 1171 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,909 motivations, and it was clear that he would often say more than he could 1172 00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:27,919 would often say more than he could 1173 00:23:27,919 --> 00:23:30,070 would often say more than he could deliver. Do you think maybe he's 1174 00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:30,080 deliver. Do you think maybe he's 1175 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,909 deliver. Do you think maybe he's compensating for something? In 1176 00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:31,919 compensating for something? In 1177 00:23:31,919 --> 00:23:33,750 compensating for something? In particular though, he often said more 1178 00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:33,760 particular though, he often said more 1179 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,630 particular though, he often said more unsavory things, either just jokes to be 1180 00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:36,640 unsavory things, either just jokes to be 1181 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,710 unsavory things, either just jokes to be funny or what usually felt more 1182 00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:38,720 funny or what usually felt more 1183 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,669 funny or what usually felt more personal. This was never a paying gig, 1184 00:23:41,669 --> 00:23:41,679 personal. This was never a paying gig, 1185 00:23:41,679 --> 00:23:43,669 personal. This was never a paying gig, so it seemed that he was upset that it 1186 00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:43,679 so it seemed that he was upset that it 1187 00:23:43,679 --> 00:23:45,750 so it seemed that he was upset that it wasn't helping his career, money, or 1188 00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:45,760 wasn't helping his career, money, or 1189 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,070 wasn't helping his career, money, or even romantic situation. It usually felt 1190 00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:48,080 even romantic situation. It usually felt 1191 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,909 even romantic situation. It usually felt like he would push himself to be really 1192 00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:49,919 like he would push himself to be really 1193 00:23:49,919 --> 00:23:52,310 like he would push himself to be really good and then fell flat, like he had 1194 00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:52,320 good and then fell flat, like he had 1195 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,310 good and then fell flat, like he had ulterior motives and scoffed at other 1196 00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:54,320 ulterior motives and scoffed at other 1197 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,909 ulterior motives and scoffed at other editors for their work to make himself 1198 00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:55,919 editors for their work to make himself 1199 00:23:55,919 --> 00:23:58,789 editors for their work to make himself look better. really honing in. He was 1200 00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:58,799 look better. really honing in. He was 1201 00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:01,430 look better. really honing in. He was oddly fixated on if KP liked or approved 1202 00:24:01,430 --> 00:24:01,440 oddly fixated on if KP liked or approved 1203 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,830 oddly fixated on if KP liked or approved his work, bragging, which again was 1204 00:24:04,830 --> 00:24:04,840 his work, bragging, which again was 1205 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,270 his work, bragging, which again was inconsistent. In my opinion, he also 1206 00:24:07,270 --> 00:24:07,280 inconsistent. In my opinion, he also 1207 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,750 inconsistent. In my opinion, he also seemed to have a crush on KP. It seemed 1208 00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:09,760 seemed to have a crush on KP. It seemed 1209 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,149 seemed to have a crush on KP. It seemed obvious to me, if you know what I mean. 1210 00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:12,159 obvious to me, if you know what I mean. 1211 00:24:12,159 --> 00:24:14,149 obvious to me, if you know what I mean. Sometimes he antagonized another team 1212 00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:14,159 Sometimes he antagonized another team 1213 00:24:14,159 --> 00:24:16,149 Sometimes he antagonized another team member to get her attention and also 1214 00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:16,159 member to get her attention and also 1215 00:24:16,159 --> 00:24:18,950 member to get her attention and also downplayed it when talking with others. 1216 00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:18,960 downplayed it when talking with others. 1217 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,789 downplayed it when talking with others. It was odd that he would feel 1218 00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:20,799 It was odd that he would feel 1219 00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:22,470 It was odd that he would feel unappreciated when he was acting out of 1220 00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:22,480 unappreciated when he was acting out of 1221 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,710 unappreciated when he was acting out of his own will to help. Though not fully 1222 00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:24,720 his own will to help. Though not fully 1223 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,110 his own will to help. Though not fully joining the team, he still committed to 1224 00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:27,120 joining the team, he still committed to 1225 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:29,190 joining the team, he still committed to projects. Near when he left, it would be 1226 00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:29,200 projects. Near when he left, it would be 1227 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,789 projects. Near when he left, it would be a lot of she doesn't pay us because 1228 00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:30,799 a lot of she doesn't pay us because 1229 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:33,590 a lot of she doesn't pay us because she's too greedy. Specifically saying 1230 00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:33,600 she's too greedy. Specifically saying 1231 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,750 she's too greedy. Specifically saying anti-Jewish semantics such as [\h__\h] 1232 00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:35,760 anti-Jewish semantics such as [\h__\h] 1233 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,549 anti-Jewish semantics such as [\h__\h] Jew won't pay us or another she's cheap 1234 00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:38,559 Jew won't pay us or another she's cheap 1235 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:40,710 Jew won't pay us or another she's cheap or she's the only one benefiting from 1236 00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:40,720 or she's the only one benefiting from 1237 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,909 or she's the only one benefiting from this. But the reality is no one ever got 1238 00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:43,919 this. But the reality is no one ever got 1239 00:24:43,919 --> 00:24:46,470 this. But the reality is no one ever got paid. Often in private conversations it 1240 00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:46,480 paid. Often in private conversations it 1241 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,230 paid. Often in private conversations it would come up, but he wouldn't be shy 1242 00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:48,240 would come up, but he wouldn't be shy 1243 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,950 would come up, but he wouldn't be shy about bringing it up during group 1244 00:24:49,950 --> 00:24:49,960 about bringing it up during group 1245 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,830 about bringing it up during group conversations. And this is if he 1246 00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:51,840 conversations. And this is if he 1247 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,830 conversations. And this is if he attended any meetings at all. We were a 1248 00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:53,840 attended any meetings at all. We were a 1249 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,510 attended any meetings at all. We were a little intimidated by his status to 1250 00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:55,520 little intimidated by his status to 1251 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,510 little intimidated by his status to bring this up to KP at the time, though. 1252 00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:57,520 bring this up to KP at the time, though. 1253 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:58,950 bring this up to KP at the time, though. Chris ultimately left the team with 1254 00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:58,960 Chris ultimately left the team with 1255 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,190 Chris ultimately left the team with almost no word. His work ethic dropped 1256 00:25:01,190 --> 00:25:01,200 almost no word. His work ethic dropped 1257 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,669 almost no word. His work ethic dropped dramatically over the months we were all 1258 00:25:02,669 --> 00:25:02,679 dramatically over the months we were all 1259 00:25:02,679 --> 00:25:05,350 dramatically over the months we were all there. Overall, his experience was 1260 00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:05,360 there. Overall, his experience was 1261 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:08,390 there. Overall, his experience was wanted, helpful, but inconsistent. Part 1262 00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:08,400 wanted, helpful, but inconsistent. Part 1263 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,789 wanted, helpful, but inconsistent. Part 1.5, escalation to being unsafe with 1264 00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:10,799 1.5, escalation to being unsafe with 1265 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:12,710 1.5, escalation to being unsafe with minors. If this video was just about 1266 00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:12,720 minors. If this video was just about 1267 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,630 minors. If this video was just about Chris making up a gross story about me a 1268 00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:14,640 Chris making up a gross story about me a 1269 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,630 Chris making up a gross story about me a while ago, I can see the argument for 1270 00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:16,640 while ago, I can see the argument for 1271 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,789 while ago, I can see the argument for why bring this up now. But things end up 1272 00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:18,799 why bring this up now. But things end up 1273 00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:20,230 why bring this up now. But things end up extending to more actions that are 1274 00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:20,240 extending to more actions that are 1275 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,230 extending to more actions that are questionable and make it seem like these 1276 00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:22,240 questionable and make it seem like these 1277 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,830 questionable and make it seem like these people can't really be trusted around 1278 00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:23,840 people can't really be trusted around 1279 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,310 people can't really be trusted around children. We have a testimony of a minor 1280 00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:26,320 children. We have a testimony of a minor 1281 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,909 children. We have a testimony of a minor who Chris made uncomfortable by 1282 00:25:27,909 --> 00:25:27,919 who Chris made uncomfortable by 1283 00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:30,310 who Chris made uncomfortable by mentioning beastiality to. Here's that 1284 00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:30,320 mentioning beastiality to. Here's that 1285 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,470 mentioning beastiality to. Here's that story. She's chosen to be left anonymous 1286 00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:32,480 story. She's chosen to be left anonymous 1287 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,149 story. She's chosen to be left anonymous for obvious reasons, but more about that 1288 00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:34,159 for obvious reasons, but more about that 1289 00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:36,549 for obvious reasons, but more about that in the interview. Back in late 2018, I 1290 00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:36,559 in the interview. Back in late 2018, I 1291 00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:38,310 in the interview. Back in late 2018, I was in a voice chat with Chris, Will, 1292 00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:38,320 was in a voice chat with Chris, Will, 1293 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,070 was in a voice chat with Chris, Will, and one other person who I cannot 1294 00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:40,080 and one other person who I cannot 1295 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,990 and one other person who I cannot remember. They were another fan, so it 1296 00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:42,000 remember. They were another fan, so it 1297 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,070 remember. They were another fan, so it isn't very relevant as to who they were. 1298 00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:44,080 isn't very relevant as to who they were. 1299 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,549 isn't very relevant as to who they were. I was 14 at the time. I do not remember 1300 00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:46,559 I was 14 at the time. I do not remember 1301 00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:48,390 I was 14 at the time. I do not remember how the conversation got to this point, 1302 00:25:48,390 --> 00:25:48,400 how the conversation got to this point, 1303 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,310 how the conversation got to this point, but at one point Chris made a joke about 1304 00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:50,320 but at one point Chris made a joke about 1305 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,549 but at one point Chris made a joke about me being into beastiality, specifically 1306 00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:52,559 me being into beastiality, specifically 1307 00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:55,029 me being into beastiality, specifically using the term beastiality, which I 1308 00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:55,039 using the term beastiality, which I 1309 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,190 using the term beastiality, which I didn't understand at the time. I simply 1310 00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:57,200 didn't understand at the time. I simply 1311 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,350 didn't understand at the time. I simply responded being confused about the joke, 1312 00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:59,360 responded being confused about the joke, 1313 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,350 responded being confused about the joke, and Chris seemed to find that funny. My 1314 00:26:01,350 --> 00:26:01,360 and Chris seemed to find that funny. My 1315 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,510 and Chris seemed to find that funny. My camera was on. They were using a third 1316 00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:03,520 camera was on. They were using a third 1317 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,590 camera was on. They were using a third party tool to have cameras with voice 1318 00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:05,600 party tool to have cameras with voice 1319 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,669 party tool to have cameras with voice chats at the time, and I had met Will 1320 00:26:07,669 --> 00:26:07,679 chats at the time, and I had met Will 1321 00:26:07,679 --> 00:26:09,909 chats at the time, and I had met Will sometime before to voice chat in person. 1322 00:26:09,909 --> 00:26:09,919 sometime before to voice chat in person. 1323 00:26:09,919 --> 00:26:11,909 sometime before to voice chat in person. They had to have known I was underage. 1324 00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:11,919 They had to have known I was underage. 1325 00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:14,070 They had to have known I was underage. This by itself is not that awful, simply 1326 00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:14,080 This by itself is not that awful, simply 1327 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,390 This by itself is not that awful, simply weird. But together with everything else 1328 00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:16,400 weird. But together with everything else 1329 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,990 weird. But together with everything else that has happened and what these people 1330 00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:18,000 that has happened and what these people 1331 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,669 that has happened and what these people have done, I think it's important to 1332 00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:19,679 have done, I think it's important to 1333 00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:21,669 have done, I think it's important to share as it shows a pattern of people in 1334 00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:21,679 share as it shows a pattern of people in 1335 00:26:21,679 --> 00:26:23,909 share as it shows a pattern of people in and around DA games creating an unsafe 1336 00:26:23,909 --> 00:26:23,919 and around DA games creating an unsafe 1337 00:26:23,919 --> 00:26:25,750 and around DA games creating an unsafe environment. There is also an incident 1338 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:25,760 environment. There is also an incident 1339 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,630 environment. There is also an incident of Lollcon or sexual images of cartoon 1340 00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:28,640 of Lollcon or sexual images of cartoon 1341 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,310 of Lollcon or sexual images of cartoon characters that are children and 1342 00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:30,320 characters that are children and 1343 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,830 characters that are children and accidentally exposing that material to 1344 00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:31,840 accidentally exposing that material to 1345 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,070 accidentally exposing that material to miners and Chris's private server 1346 00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:34,080 miners and Chris's private server 1347 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,630 miners and Chris's private server allegedly to test a bot. Lollcon is 1348 00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:36,640 allegedly to test a bot. Lollcon is 1349 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,990 allegedly to test a bot. Lollcon is already subjective in nature in the 1350 00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:38,000 already subjective in nature in the 1351 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,590 already subjective in nature in the first place, as people can make the 1352 00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:39,600 first place, as people can make the 1353 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,789 first place, as people can make the argument that these are fictional 1354 00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:40,799 argument that these are fictional 1355 00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:43,110 argument that these are fictional characters and not real children. But I 1356 00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:43,120 characters and not real children. But I 1357 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:44,549 characters and not real children. But I don't think anyone will argue that maybe 1358 00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:44,559 don't think anyone will argue that maybe 1359 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:45,990 don't think anyone will argue that maybe we shouldn't be letting children see 1360 00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:46,000 we shouldn't be letting children see 1361 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,830 we shouldn't be letting children see sexual imagery. The big problem with 1362 00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:47,840 sexual imagery. The big problem with 1363 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,669 sexual imagery. The big problem with that, besides the incident happening in 1364 00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:49,679 that, besides the incident happening in 1365 00:26:49,679 --> 00:26:51,190 that, besides the incident happening in the first place, is that it was never 1366 00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:51,200 the first place, is that it was never 1367 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,590 the first place, is that it was never officially addressed. No apology, no 1368 00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:53,600 officially addressed. No apology, no 1369 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,750 officially addressed. No apology, no nothing. But instead, the threads were 1370 00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:55,760 nothing. But instead, the threads were 1371 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,630 nothing. But instead, the threads were deleted. Sounds kind of sus to me. Oh, 1372 00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:58,640 deleted. Sounds kind of sus to me. Oh, 1373 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,110 deleted. Sounds kind of sus to me. Oh, it gets worse. Part two. Will Ryan is a 1374 00:27:01,110 --> 00:27:01,120 it gets worse. Part two. Will Ryan is a 1375 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:02,870 it gets worse. Part two. Will Ryan is a textbook pedto and probably very 1376 00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:02,880 textbook pedto and probably very 1377 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,430 textbook pedto and probably very unstable person. Sorry. Yo. If that all 1378 00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:05,440 unstable person. Sorry. Yo. If that all 1379 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,590 unstable person. Sorry. Yo. If that all isn't a big deal, then child grooming is 1380 00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:07,600 isn't a big deal, then child grooming is 1381 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,190 isn't a big deal, then child grooming is bad, right? Well, no [\h__\h] So, enter 1382 00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:11,200 bad, right? Well, no [\h__\h] So, enter 1383 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,630 bad, right? Well, no [\h__\h] So, enter player one. in this case, the YouTube 1384 00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:12,640 player one. in this case, the YouTube 1385 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,789 player one. in this case, the YouTube channel DA Games. For those who aren't 1386 00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:14,799 channel DA Games. For those who aren't 1387 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:16,630 channel DA Games. For those who aren't aware, DA Games is a YouTube channel 1388 00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:16,640 aware, DA Games is a YouTube channel 1389 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,549 aware, DA Games is a YouTube channel that makes a variety of content, 1390 00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:18,559 that makes a variety of content, 1391 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:20,070 that makes a variety of content, including let's plays, their own 1392 00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:20,080 including let's plays, their own 1393 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,549 including let's plays, their own animation, and fandom inspired music. 1394 00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:22,559 animation, and fandom inspired music. 1395 00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:24,149 animation, and fandom inspired music. The four main current members of the 1396 00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:24,159 The four main current members of the 1397 00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:26,870 The four main current members of the channel are Chris, Will Ryan, Cosmic Key 1398 00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:26,880 channel are Chris, Will Ryan, Cosmic Key 1399 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,029 channel are Chris, Will Ryan, Cosmic Key Framer Chrissy, and Shawn Webbby. Will 1400 00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:29,039 Framer Chrissy, and Shawn Webbby. Will 1401 00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:30,710 Framer Chrissy, and Shawn Webbby. Will himself is problematic for a bunch of 1402 00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:30,720 himself is problematic for a bunch of 1403 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,669 himself is problematic for a bunch of reasons, not limited to dating a minor 1404 00:27:33,669 --> 00:27:33,679 reasons, not limited to dating a minor 1405 00:27:33,679 --> 00:27:37,350 reasons, not limited to dating a minor in 2015 when he was 23, and that's shady 1406 00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:37,360 in 2015 when he was 23, and that's shady 1407 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,590 in 2015 when he was 23, and that's shady at best. Here are the screen caps. These 1408 00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:39,600 at best. Here are the screen caps. These 1409 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,830 at best. Here are the screen caps. These are great. I guess you can be Jerry 1410 00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:41,840 are great. I guess you can be Jerry 1411 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,230 are great. I guess you can be Jerry Seinfeld, who dated a 17-year-old when 1412 00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:44,240 Seinfeld, who dated a 17-year-old when 1413 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,390 Seinfeld, who dated a 17-year-old when he was 38. 1414 00:27:48,390 --> 00:27:48,400 1415 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,990 So, uh, what are you going to do later? 1416 00:27:49,990 --> 00:27:50,000 So, uh, what are you going to do later? 1417 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,630 So, uh, what are you going to do later? I got a date with Nikki. Oh, yeah. She's 1418 00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:52,640 I got a date with Nikki. Oh, yeah. She's 1419 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,230 I got a date with Nikki. Oh, yeah. She's a beauty. And she's also 17. Bold and 1420 00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:56,240 a beauty. And she's also 17. Bold and 1421 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,710 a beauty. And she's also 17. Bold and beautiful. 1422 00:27:58,710 --> 00:27:58,720 beautiful. 1423 00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,990 beautiful. [Music] 1424 00:27:59,990 --> 00:28:00,000 [Music] 1425 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,269 [Music] I'll tell you the big advantage of 1426 00:28:01,269 --> 00:28:01,279 I'll tell you the big advantage of 1427 00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:02,750 I'll tell you the big advantage of dating a high 1428 00:28:02,750 --> 00:28:02,760 dating a high 1429 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,549 dating a high schooler. If you're going out with 1430 00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:04,559 schooler. If you're going out with 1431 00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:07,350 schooler. If you're going out with someone your own age, you can't take 1432 00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:07,360 someone your own age, you can't take 1433 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:10,470 someone your own age, you can't take advantage of 1434 00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:10,480 advantage of 1435 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,710 advantage of I suppose. Oh, come on. That's a huge 1436 00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:12,720 I suppose. Oh, come on. That's a huge 1437 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,630 I suppose. Oh, come on. That's a huge feature. Think about it. She's so young 1438 00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:14,640 feature. Think about it. She's so young 1439 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,510 feature. Think about it. She's so young she doesn't realize I'm a predator. 1440 00:28:19,510 --> 00:28:19,520 1441 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,029 Jerry. 1442 00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:21,039 Jerry. 1443 00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:22,710 Jerry. Yes. 1444 00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:22,720 Yes. 1445 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,149 Yes. I've been doing a lot of thinking. 1446 00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:24,159 I've been doing a lot of thinking. 1447 00:28:24,159 --> 00:28:26,389 I've been doing a lot of thinking. Uh-huh. 1448 00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:26,399 Uh-huh. 1449 00:28:26,399 --> 00:28:27,830 Uh-huh. Well, I don't think we should see each 1450 00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:27,840 Well, I don't think we should see each 1451 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,230 Well, I don't think we should see each other anymore. Oh, that's okay. 1452 00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:32,240 other anymore. Oh, that's okay. 1453 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,710 other anymore. Oh, that's okay. What? No, it's fine. No problem. I'll 1454 00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:34,720 What? No, it's fine. No problem. I'll 1455 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,950 What? No, it's fine. No problem. I'll meet somebody else. 1456 00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:36,960 meet somebody else. 1457 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,789 meet somebody else. Sure. There are plenty of high schools 1458 00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:38,799 Sure. There are plenty of high schools 1459 00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:41,350 Sure. There are plenty of high schools in New York City. 1460 00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:41,360 in New York City. 1461 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,750 in New York City. It's fine. Anyway, it's been really nice 1462 00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:43,760 It's fine. Anyway, it's been really nice 1463 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,510 It's fine. Anyway, it's been really nice grooming you for a while. I'm going to 1464 00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:45,520 grooming you for a while. I'm going to 1465 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,310 grooming you for a while. I'm going to go scope out a Chuck-E-Cheese. 1466 00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:48,320 go scope out a Chuck-E-Cheese. 1467 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,630 go scope out a Chuck-E-Cheese. Yeah, me, too. She'll be coming round 1468 00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:50,640 Yeah, me, too. She'll be coming round 1469 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,350 Yeah, me, too. She'll be coming round the mountain when she dating anyone 18 1470 00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:53,360 the mountain when she dating anyone 18 1471 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,590 the mountain when she dating anyone 18 falls into a legally gray area depending 1472 00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:55,600 falls into a legally gray area depending 1473 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,990 falls into a legally gray area depending on what state or country you're in. But 1474 00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:58,000 on what state or country you're in. But 1475 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,310 on what state or country you're in. But the general rule of thumb is anyone 18 1476 00:29:00,310 --> 00:29:00,320 the general rule of thumb is anyone 18 1477 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,909 the general rule of thumb is anyone 18 should not be dating anyone who's 1478 00:29:01,909 --> 00:29:01,919 should not be dating anyone who's 1479 00:29:01,919 --> 00:29:04,230 should not be dating anyone who's younger than 18. That's the internet 1480 00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:04,240 younger than 18. That's the internet 1481 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,029 younger than 18. That's the internet law. I looked it up. Part 2.5 is 1482 00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:07,039 law. I looked it up. Part 2.5 is 1483 00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:09,110 law. I looked it up. Part 2.5 is grooming. But the most problematic of 1484 00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:09,120 grooming. But the most problematic of 1485 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,789 grooming. But the most problematic of all of this is minor straight up being 1486 00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:10,799 all of this is minor straight up being 1487 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:13,350 all of this is minor straight up being groomed in their public spaces. Who 1488 00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:13,360 groomed in their public spaces. Who 1489 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,430 groomed in their public spaces. Who you'll hear from in a second was 15 1490 00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:15,440 you'll hear from in a second was 15 1491 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,389 you'll hear from in a second was 15 years old when someone around 19 years 1492 00:29:17,389 --> 00:29:17,399 years old when someone around 19 years 1493 00:29:17,399 --> 00:29:19,669 years old when someone around 19 years old started sending them self harm 1494 00:29:19,669 --> 00:29:19,679 old started sending them self harm 1495 00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:21,909 old started sending them self harm pictures. Censored screenshots are on 1496 00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:21,919 pictures. Censored screenshots are on 1497 00:29:21,919 --> 00:29:24,350 pictures. Censored screenshots are on screen. It's not a fun video. I warned 1498 00:29:24,350 --> 00:29:24,360 screen. It's not a fun video. I warned 1499 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,389 screen. It's not a fun video. I warned you. Was pressured to help this 1500 00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:26,399 you. Was pressured to help this 1501 00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:28,389 you. Was pressured to help this individual and manipulated to break up 1502 00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:28,399 individual and manipulated to break up 1503 00:29:28,399 --> 00:29:30,149 individual and manipulated to break up with their current partner at the time. 1504 00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:30,159 with their current partner at the time. 1505 00:29:30,159 --> 00:29:32,070 with their current partner at the time. This escalated to nude photos and 1506 00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:32,080 This escalated to nude photos and 1507 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,950 This escalated to nude photos and constant communication until Sage a 1508 00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:34,960 constant communication until Sage a 1509 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,350 constant communication until Sage a suicide attempt and 1510 00:29:36,350 --> 00:29:36,360 suicide attempt and 1511 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,950 suicide attempt and blamed then came back and faked memory 1512 00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:38,960 blamed then came back and faked memory 1513 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,990 blamed then came back and faked memory loss until was blocked completely. And 1514 00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:42,000 loss until was blocked completely. And 1515 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,630 loss until was blocked completely. And how was it handled in the DA game 1516 00:29:43,630 --> 00:29:43,640 how was it handled in the DA game 1517 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,750 how was it handled in the DA game server? Contacted Will about the 1518 00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:45,760 server? Contacted Will about the 1519 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,750 server? Contacted Will about the situation who sympathized privately but 1520 00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:47,760 situation who sympathized privately but 1521 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,830 situation who sympathized privately but didn't do anything publicly. But like 1522 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:49,840 didn't do anything publicly. But like 1523 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,269 didn't do anything publicly. But like what's accountability for exposing 1524 00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:51,279 what's accountability for exposing 1525 00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:54,149 what's accountability for exposing minors to a predator and just left the 1526 00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:54,159 minors to a predator and just left the 1527 00:29:54,159 --> 00:29:56,310 minors to a predator and just left the space on his own? Eventually had to make 1528 00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:56,320 space on his own? Eventually had to make 1529 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,909 space on his own? Eventually had to make his own Twitter thread with screenshots 1530 00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:57,919 his own Twitter thread with screenshots 1531 00:29:57,919 --> 00:29:59,990 his own Twitter thread with screenshots to prove the account was true. I mean, 1532 00:29:59,990 --> 00:30:00,000 to prove the account was true. I mean, 1533 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,590 to prove the account was true. I mean, come the [\h__\h] on. The least you could 1534 00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:01,600 come the [\h__\h] on. The least you could 1535 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,590 come the [\h__\h] on. The least you could have done was ban a pedophile. The bare 1536 00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:03,600 have done was ban a pedophile. The bare 1537 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,070 have done was ban a pedophile. The bare minimum. What's that? Let me be clear. 1538 00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:06,080 minimum. What's that? Let me be clear. 1539 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,669 minimum. What's that? Let me be clear. This isn't only Will's fault. It's 1540 00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:07,679 This isn't only Will's fault. It's 1541 00:30:07,679 --> 00:30:09,190 This isn't only Will's fault. It's everyone involved in the company, 1542 00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:09,200 everyone involved in the company, 1543 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,789 everyone involved in the company, including the people I named before. And 1544 00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:10,799 including the people I named before. And 1545 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:13,029 including the people I named before. And I know rent is a thing, but sacrificing 1546 00:30:13,029 --> 00:30:13,039 I know rent is a thing, but sacrificing 1547 00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:14,789 I know rent is a thing, but sacrificing putting children at risk because you 1548 00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:14,799 putting children at risk because you 1549 00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:16,710 putting children at risk because you don't want to publicly speak out about 1550 00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:16,720 don't want to publicly speak out about 1551 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,389 don't want to publicly speak out about this behavior and threaten your 1552 00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:18,399 this behavior and threaten your 1553 00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:20,230 this behavior and threaten your livelihood and because you don't want to 1554 00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:20,240 livelihood and because you don't want to 1555 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,149 livelihood and because you don't want to go to college is just shitty and 1556 00:30:22,149 --> 00:30:22,159 go to college is just shitty and 1557 00:30:22,159 --> 00:30:24,950 go to college is just shitty and selfish. Oh, you are just the worst type 1558 00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:24,960 selfish. Oh, you are just the worst type 1559 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,830 selfish. Oh, you are just the worst type of person. Next is and his friend Pixel 1560 00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:27,840 of person. Next is and his friend Pixel 1561 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,350 of person. Next is and his friend Pixel talking about problematic behavior in 1562 00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:29,360 talking about problematic behavior in 1563 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,269 talking about problematic behavior in the DA games community and the situation 1564 00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:31,279 the DA games community and the situation 1565 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:33,110 the DA games community and the situation at large. Welcome to the no fun 1566 00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:33,120 at large. Welcome to the no fun 1567 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,630 at large. Welcome to the no fun interview section. I have two people 1568 00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:34,640 interview section. I have two people 1569 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,389 interview section. I have two people with me who have previous personal or 1570 00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:36,399 with me who have previous personal or 1571 00:30:36,399 --> 00:30:38,149 with me who have previous personal or professional experiences with DA games 1572 00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:38,159 professional experiences with DA games 1573 00:30:38,159 --> 00:30:40,149 professional experiences with DA games in the past and they made a document 1574 00:30:40,149 --> 00:30:40,159 in the past and they made a document 1575 00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:41,990 in the past and they made a document about it a year ago but I brought them 1576 00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:42,000 about it a year ago but I brought them 1577 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,669 about it a year ago but I brought them on to share their personal stories in 1578 00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:43,679 on to share their personal stories in 1579 00:30:43,679 --> 00:30:45,830 on to share their personal stories in audio form. So it's a bit easier to 1580 00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:45,840 audio form. So it's a bit easier to 1581 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,070 audio form. So it's a bit easier to digest as well as provide some context 1582 00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:48,080 digest as well as provide some context 1583 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,669 digest as well as provide some context to these things and that these are real 1584 00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:49,679 to these things and that these are real 1585 00:30:49,679 --> 00:30:52,230 to these things and that these are real people. I promise. So why don't you guys 1586 00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:52,240 people. I promise. So why don't you guys 1587 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,310 people. I promise. So why don't you guys introduce 1588 00:30:53,310 --> 00:30:53,320 introduce 1589 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,830 introduce yourselves? Yeah, I'll go 1590 00:30:56,830 --> 00:30:56,840 yourselves? Yeah, I'll go 1591 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,669 yourselves? Yeah, I'll go first. I um was a fan since 2018 until I 1592 00:31:01,669 --> 00:31:01,679 first. I um was a fan since 2018 until I 1593 00:31:01,679 --> 00:31:03,990 first. I um was a fan since 2018 until I came became friends with Will, one of 1594 00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:04,000 came became friends with Will, one of 1595 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,389 came became friends with Will, one of the games owners in I want to say 2020, 1596 00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:08,399 the games owners in I want to say 2020, 1597 00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:11,269 the games owners in I want to say 2020, 2021. I'm not sure. Um I was 1598 00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:11,279 2021. I'm not sure. Um I was 1599 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:14,470 2021. I'm not sure. Um I was commissioned by him in late 2022 to make 1600 00:31:14,470 --> 00:31:14,480 commissioned by him in late 2022 to make 1601 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,710 commissioned by him in late 2022 to make a concert outfit, but that's really all 1602 00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:16,720 a concert outfit, but that's really all 1603 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,789 a concert outfit, but that's really all I got. Um what? Well, that's all I have 1604 00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:20,799 I got. Um what? Well, that's all I have 1605 00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:23,269 I got. Um what? Well, that's all I have when it comes to my relation to him. We 1606 00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:23,279 when it comes to my relation to him. We 1607 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,669 when it comes to my relation to him. We were friends but not really. So you had 1608 00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:25,679 were friends but not really. So you had 1609 00:31:25,679 --> 00:31:27,590 were friends but not really. So you had a professional relationship with Will? 1610 00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:27,600 a professional relationship with Will? 1611 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,669 a professional relationship with Will? Yeah, I was commissioned once but that's 1612 00:31:29,669 --> 00:31:29,679 Yeah, I was commissioned once but that's 1613 00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:32,630 Yeah, I was commissioned once but that's about it. Okay. So Pixel, what's your 1614 00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:32,640 about it. Okay. So Pixel, what's your 1615 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,870 about it. Okay. So Pixel, what's your background? So I was a fan in 2018 to 1616 00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:36,880 background? So I was a fan in 2018 to 1617 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,190 background? So I was a fan in 2018 to 2023 and I was a fan artist in his 1618 00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:39,200 2023 and I was a fan artist in his 1619 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,350 2023 and I was a fan artist in his server. I did a lot of general fan art 1620 00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:41,360 server. I did a lot of general fan art 1621 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,190 server. I did a lot of general fan art and just general art interpretations of 1622 00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:43,200 and just general art interpretations of 1623 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,350 and just general art interpretations of his stuff and I never worked with him 1624 00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:45,360 his stuff and I never worked with him 1625 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,789 his stuff and I never worked with him like professionally, but I was friends 1626 00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:46,799 like professionally, but I was friends 1627 00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:49,590 like professionally, but I was friends with him during 2023 and we DM'd pretty 1628 00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:49,600 with him during 2023 and we DM'd pretty 1629 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,750 with him during 2023 and we DM'd pretty often for a couple months. like we 1630 00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:51,760 often for a couple months. like we 1631 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,230 often for a couple months. like we talked in VCs and stuff. How did that 1632 00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:54,240 talked in VCs and stuff. How did that 1633 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,149 talked in VCs and stuff. How did that start? Did he notice your fan art and 1634 00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:56,159 start? Did he notice your fan art and 1635 00:31:56,159 --> 00:31:58,630 start? Did he notice your fan art and start DMing you or what? It was kind of 1636 00:31:58,630 --> 00:31:58,640 start DMing you or what? It was kind of 1637 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,909 start DMing you or what? It was kind of interesting. He was friends with first 1638 00:32:01,909 --> 00:32:01,919 interesting. He was friends with first 1639 00:32:01,919 --> 00:32:03,830 interesting. He was friends with first and other than the DA game server, there 1640 00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:03,840 and other than the DA game server, there 1641 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,070 and other than the DA game server, there was another friend server that he was in 1642 00:32:06,070 --> 00:32:06,080 was another friend server that he was in 1643 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,909 was another friend server that he was in and at some point the topic of me came 1644 00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:07,919 and at some point the topic of me came 1645 00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:11,110 and at some point the topic of me came up when he was DMing and he noticed that 1646 00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:11,120 up when he was DMing and he noticed that 1647 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,029 up when he was DMing and he noticed that I wasn't on his friends list and he was 1648 00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:13,039 I wasn't on his friends list and he was 1649 00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:15,190 I wasn't on his friends list and he was just kind of confused about that. And so 1650 00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:15,200 just kind of confused about that. And so 1651 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,630 just kind of confused about that. And so it was just kind of he thought we were 1652 00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:16,640 it was just kind of he thought we were 1653 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,310 it was just kind of he thought we were friends already. And so it was around 1654 00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:18,320 friends already. And so it was around 1655 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,549 friends already. And so it was around early 2023 that I accepted his friend 1656 00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:20,559 early 2023 that I accepted his friend 1657 00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,269 early 2023 that I accepted his friend request and we started DMing from there. 1658 00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:23,279 request and we started DMing from there. 1659 00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:24,710 request and we started DMing from there. I think we officially started a 1660 00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:24,720 I think we officially started a 1661 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,870 I think we officially started a conversation after an incident with his 1662 00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:26,880 conversation after an incident with his 1663 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,350 conversation after an incident with his friend Enu. She was like harassing me 1664 00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:29,360 friend Enu. She was like harassing me 1665 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,950 friend Enu. She was like harassing me for like 2 hours and I had that 1666 00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:30,960 for like 2 hours and I had that 1667 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,190 for like 2 hours and I had that conversation with Will. I was like your 1668 00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:33,200 conversation with Will. I was like your 1669 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,789 conversation with Will. I was like your friend is doing this and this is what 1670 00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:34,799 friend is doing this and this is what 1671 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:36,389 friend is doing this and this is what happened and here's a conversation that 1672 00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:36,399 happened and here's a conversation that 1673 00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:39,190 happened and here's a conversation that we had and after that we just started 1674 00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:39,200 we had and after that we just started 1675 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,509 we had and after that we just started having normal conversations. 1676 00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:41,519 having normal conversations. 1677 00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:43,110 having normal conversations. So I guess Will does this where he'll 1678 00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:43,120 So I guess Will does this where he'll 1679 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,630 So I guess Will does this where he'll just take people from the fan server and 1680 00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:44,640 just take people from the fan server and 1681 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,830 just take people from the fan server and try to build a personal connection. 1682 00:32:46,830 --> 00:32:46,840 try to build a personal connection. 1683 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,789 try to build a personal connection. Yeah. Um so so there's actually this 1684 00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:50,799 Yeah. Um so so there's actually this 1685 00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:52,950 Yeah. Um so so there's actually this second server that a lot of his friends 1686 00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:52,960 second server that a lot of his friends 1687 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,630 second server that a lot of his friends including like Lala and Enu are in. Um 1688 00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:56,640 including like Lala and Enu are in. Um 1689 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,789 including like Lala and Enu are in. Um that sometimes just some people get 1690 00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:58,799 that sometimes just some people get 1691 00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:01,190 that sometimes just some people get invited to I guess. 1692 00:33:01,190 --> 00:33:01,200 invited to I guess. 1693 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,789 invited to I guess. Okay. I guess from what I'm getting at 1694 00:33:02,789 --> 00:33:02,799 Okay. I guess from what I'm getting at 1695 00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:04,389 Okay. I guess from what I'm getting at so far is there seems to be a lack of 1696 00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:04,399 so far is there seems to be a lack of 1697 00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:06,310 so far is there seems to be a lack of boundaries. Not that it's a bad thing to 1698 00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:06,320 boundaries. Not that it's a bad thing to 1699 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,070 boundaries. Not that it's a bad thing to make friends with fans or anything, but 1700 00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:08,080 make friends with fans or anything, but 1701 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,669 make friends with fans or anything, but I feel like it's almost competitive if 1702 00:33:09,669 --> 00:33:09,679 I feel like it's almost competitive if 1703 00:33:09,679 --> 00:33:11,830 I feel like it's almost competitive if you have like a server of people he 1704 00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:11,840 you have like a server of people he 1705 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,990 you have like a server of people he likes that are also the fan server. 1706 00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:14,000 likes that are also the fan server. 1707 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,870 likes that are also the fan server. Yeah, it's really weird. Yeah. So, what 1708 00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:16,880 Yeah, it's really weird. Yeah. So, what 1709 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,190 Yeah, it's really weird. Yeah. So, what happened for me was I was friends with 1710 00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:19,200 happened for me was I was friends with 1711 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,310 happened for me was I was friends with Lala before um before I was invited to 1712 00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:22,320 Lala before um before I was invited to 1713 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,310 Lala before um before I was invited to that server. So, because I had a mutual 1714 00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:26,320 that server. So, because I had a mutual 1715 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,750 that server. So, because I had a mutual friend with Will, meaning Lala, I was 1716 00:33:28,750 --> 00:33:28,760 friend with Will, meaning Lala, I was 1717 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,669 friend with Will, meaning Lala, I was invited there. It was It's officially LA 1718 00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:31,679 invited there. It was It's officially LA 1719 00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:34,630 invited there. It was It's officially LA server, but it mostly gets used for Will 1720 00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:34,640 server, but it mostly gets used for Will 1721 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,950 server, but it mostly gets used for Will stuff. What exactly is in the server? Is 1722 00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:36,960 stuff. What exactly is in the server? Is 1723 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,110 stuff. What exactly is in the server? Is it just like personal jokes or a similar 1724 00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:39,120 it just like personal jokes or a similar 1725 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,389 it just like personal jokes or a similar layout to the other server, but just 1726 00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:40,399 layout to the other server, but just 1727 00:33:40,399 --> 00:33:43,990 layout to the other server, but just kind of private? Um, it's supposed to be 1728 00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:44,000 kind of private? Um, it's supposed to be 1729 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,590 kind of private? Um, it's supposed to be a friend group. It's supposed to be a 1730 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:45,600 a friend group. It's supposed to be a 1731 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,230 a friend group. It's supposed to be a friend group server, 1732 00:33:47,230 --> 00:33:47,240 friend group server, 1733 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,990 friend group server, but it's really centered about around 1734 00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:50,000 but it's really centered about around 1735 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,029 but it's really centered about around Will. Yeah, they had this rule where if 1736 00:33:53,029 --> 00:33:53,039 Will. Yeah, they had this rule where if 1737 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:55,350 Will. Yeah, they had this rule where if you weren't active enough, you'll get 1738 00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:55,360 you weren't active enough, you'll get 1739 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,669 you weren't active enough, you'll get kicked and if you couldn't go to VCs, 1740 00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:57,679 kicked and if you couldn't go to VCs, 1741 00:33:57,679 --> 00:33:59,190 kicked and if you couldn't go to VCs, you would have to explain yourself like, 1742 00:33:59,190 --> 00:33:59,200 you would have to explain yourself like, 1743 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,029 you would have to explain yourself like, "Oh, I couldn't join VC today because of 1744 00:34:01,029 --> 00:34:01,039 "Oh, I couldn't join VC today because of 1745 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,350 "Oh, I couldn't join VC today because of X, Y, and Z." And generally, from my 1746 00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:03,360 X, Y, and Z." And generally, from my 1747 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,029 X, Y, and Z." And generally, from my experience, a lot of people had to cater 1748 00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:05,039 experience, a lot of people had to cater 1749 00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:06,950 experience, a lot of people had to cater to Will like going back on joining the 1750 00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:06,960 to Will like going back on joining the 1751 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,109 to Will like going back on joining the server in general. They used to let 1752 00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:09,119 server in general. They used to let 1753 00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:10,629 server in general. They used to let people in pretty generally, but then 1754 00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:10,639 people in pretty generally, but then 1755 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:12,629 people in pretty generally, but then they just kind of restricted access. 1756 00:34:12,629 --> 00:34:12,639 they just kind of restricted access. 1757 00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:14,230 they just kind of restricted access. Like the only reason I got in there was 1758 00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:14,240 Like the only reason I got in there was 1759 00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:16,950 Like the only reason I got in there was because actually invited me in there. a 1760 00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:16,960 because actually invited me in there. a 1761 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,869 because actually invited me in there. a few times she actually gave out invites, 1762 00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:18,879 few times she actually gave out invites, 1763 00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:21,190 few times she actually gave out invites, but it's technically a friend server, 1764 00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:21,200 but it's technically a friend server, 1765 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,510 but it's technically a friend server, but they have like not official events, 1766 00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:23,520 but they have like not official events, 1767 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,589 but they have like not official events, but they do VC a lot, sometimes for like 1768 00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:25,599 but they do VC a lot, sometimes for like 1769 00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:27,430 but they do VC a lot, sometimes for like days, and they just generally expect you 1770 00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:27,440 days, and they just generally expect you 1771 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,149 days, and they just generally expect you to be active a lot. So, it seems to me 1772 00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:30,159 to be active a lot. So, it seems to me 1773 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:31,589 to be active a lot. So, it seems to me like the whole point of the server is 1774 00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:31,599 like the whole point of the server is 1775 00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:33,109 like the whole point of the server is for Will to talk to people and get 1776 00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:33,119 for Will to talk to people and get 1777 00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:35,710 for Will to talk to people and get validation. Is that it? Yeah, 1778 00:34:35,710 --> 00:34:35,720 validation. Is that it? Yeah, 1779 00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:38,149 validation. Is that it? Yeah, definitely. I remember this one time 1780 00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:38,159 definitely. I remember this one time 1781 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,310 definitely. I remember this one time that me and a friend who was in there 1782 00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:40,320 that me and a friend who was in there 1783 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,790 that me and a friend who was in there were watching I think it was Hellraiser 1784 00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:42,800 were watching I think it was Hellraiser 1785 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,349 were watching I think it was Hellraiser 4. It was one of the worst Hellraiser 1786 00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:45,359 4. It was one of the worst Hellraiser 1787 00:34:45,359 --> 00:34:48,030 4. It was one of the worst Hellraiser movies. We were like cracking jokes and 1788 00:34:48,030 --> 00:34:48,040 movies. We were like cracking jokes and 1789 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,030 movies. We were like cracking jokes and stuff and 1790 00:34:50,030 --> 00:34:50,040 stuff and 1791 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,270 stuff and like an hour in Will joined and he got 1792 00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:53,280 like an hour in Will joined and he got 1793 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,109 like an hour in Will joined and he got upset because we were talking over the 1794 00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:55,119 upset because we were talking over the 1795 00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:56,950 upset because we were talking over the movie when he didn't even choose to 1796 00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:56,960 movie when he didn't even choose to 1797 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,390 movie when he didn't even choose to watch it. We did. Were there any minors 1798 00:35:00,390 --> 00:35:00,400 watch it. We did. Were there any minors 1799 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,109 watch it. We did. Were there any minors in the server? Yes. Yeah, there were. 1800 00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:03,119 in the server? Yes. Yeah, there were. 1801 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:05,030 in the server? Yes. Yeah, there were. I'm not going to say names, but I 1802 00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:05,040 I'm not going to say names, but I 1803 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,349 I'm not going to say names, but I remember there being like several at 1804 00:35:07,349 --> 00:35:07,359 remember there being like several at 1805 00:35:07,359 --> 00:35:09,109 remember there being like several at least. So, I guess it's kind of 1806 00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:09,119 least. So, I guess it's kind of 1807 00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:10,470 least. So, I guess it's kind of questionable that he made a separate 1808 00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:10,480 questionable that he made a separate 1809 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,710 questionable that he made a separate server to invite mostly fans of his main 1810 00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:12,720 server to invite mostly fans of his main 1811 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:14,470 server to invite mostly fans of his main server, which I guess isn't the worst 1812 00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:14,480 server, which I guess isn't the worst 1813 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,630 server, which I guess isn't the worst thing in the world, obviously, but it's 1814 00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:16,640 thing in the world, obviously, but it's 1815 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,910 thing in the world, obviously, but it's things like the boundaries that are 1816 00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:17,920 things like the boundaries that are 1817 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,150 things like the boundaries that are weird, the rules as far as VCing that 1818 00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:20,160 weird, the rules as far as VCing that 1819 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,510 weird, the rules as far as VCing that are weird, and the fact that there are 1820 00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:21,520 are weird, and the fact that there are 1821 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,030 are weird, and the fact that there are minors in there. Were there 1822 00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:23,040 minors in there. Were there 1823 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,270 minors in there. Were there inappropriate jokes and stuff like that? 1824 00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:25,280 inappropriate jokes and stuff like that? 1825 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,670 inappropriate jokes and stuff like that? Yeah, there used to be an NSFW chat 1826 00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:27,680 Yeah, there used to be an NSFW chat 1827 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,670 Yeah, there used to be an NSFW chat even, and like people would just share 1828 00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:29,680 even, and like people would just share 1829 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,109 even, and like people would just share their kings in there and stuff. I 1830 00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:31,119 their kings in there and stuff. I 1831 00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:31,870 their kings in there and stuff. I remember 1832 00:35:31,870 --> 00:35:31,880 remember 1833 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,390 remember this. They got deleted eventually, but 1834 00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:34,400 this. They got deleted eventually, but 1835 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,510 this. They got deleted eventually, but it was weird. like the time I was in 1836 00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:37,520 it was weird. like the time I was in 1837 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,589 it was weird. like the time I was in there and the chat still existed. I was 1838 00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:39,599 there and the chat still existed. I was 1839 00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:43,670 there and the chat still existed. I was a minor at the time. I think I don't 1840 00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:43,680 a minor at the time. I think I don't 1841 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,950 a minor at the time. I think I don't remember exactly. I'm sorry. But yeah, 1842 00:35:46,950 --> 00:35:46,960 remember exactly. I'm sorry. But yeah, 1843 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,670 remember exactly. I'm sorry. But yeah, it was really sexual and racist and 1844 00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:49,680 it was really sexual and racist and 1845 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,790 it was really sexual and racist and stuff. Okay. Not off to a good start. So 1846 00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:52,800 stuff. Okay. Not off to a good start. So 1847 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,310 stuff. Okay. Not off to a good start. So that seems to be the running theme with 1848 00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:54,320 that seems to be the running theme with 1849 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,829 that seems to be the running theme with DA games in general that they're being 1850 00:35:55,829 --> 00:35:55,839 DA games in general that they're being 1851 00:35:55,839 --> 00:35:57,270 DA games in general that they're being inappropriate with minors. They make 1852 00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:57,280 inappropriate with minors. They make 1853 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,109 inappropriate with minors. They make inappropriate or not safe for work jokes 1854 00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:59,119 inappropriate or not safe for work jokes 1855 00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:00,710 inappropriate or not safe for work jokes in front of minors and no one seems to 1856 00:36:00,710 --> 00:36:00,720 in front of minors and no one seems to 1857 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:02,310 in front of minors and no one seems to be willing to do anything about it. 1858 00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:02,320 be willing to do anything about it. 1859 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,750 be willing to do anything about it. Yeah, exactly. Like sometimes they 1860 00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:05,760 Yeah, exactly. Like sometimes they 1861 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,270 Yeah, exactly. Like sometimes they like for for forever now. I want to say 1862 00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:09,280 like for for forever now. I want to say 1863 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,430 like for for forever now. I want to say they refused to even acknowledge that 1864 00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:11,440 they refused to even acknowledge that 1865 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,589 they refused to even acknowledge that there are minors in their audience. 1866 00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:13,599 there are minors in their audience. 1867 00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:16,230 there are minors in their audience. Yeah, I remember that when the first 1868 00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:16,240 Yeah, I remember that when the first 1869 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:17,990 Yeah, I remember that when the first version of Doc dropped, we were bringing 1870 00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:18,000 version of Doc dropped, we were bringing 1871 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,670 version of Doc dropped, we were bringing up the point that he was tremor dumping 1872 00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:19,680 up the point that he was tremor dumping 1873 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,910 up the point that he was tremor dumping to minors and talking about things that 1874 00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:21,920 to minors and talking about things that 1875 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,349 to minors and talking about things that younger kids shouldn't be hearing. And 1876 00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:23,359 younger kids shouldn't be hearing. And 1877 00:36:23,359 --> 00:36:25,270 younger kids shouldn't be hearing. And he relies a lot on his fan base for 1878 00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:25,280 he relies a lot on his fan base for 1879 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,190 he relies a lot on his fan base for personal support. There's an entire 1880 00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:27,200 personal support. There's an entire 1881 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,190 personal support. There's an entire channel in that server dedicated to just 1882 00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:29,200 channel in that server dedicated to just 1883 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,589 channel in that server dedicated to just giving him specifically support. And the 1884 00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:31,599 giving him specifically support. And the 1885 00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,510 giving him specifically support. And the entire mood of the server is dedicated 1886 00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:33,520 entire mood of the server is dedicated 1887 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,150 entire mood of the server is dedicated by how he's feeling that day. And when 1888 00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:36,160 by how he's feeling that day. And when 1889 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,990 by how he's feeling that day. And when we mention that in our document, like, 1890 00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:38,000 we mention that in our document, like, 1891 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,829 we mention that in our document, like, hey, he's trauma dumping. He's talking 1892 00:36:39,829 --> 00:36:39,839 hey, he's trauma dumping. He's talking 1893 00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:41,270 hey, he's trauma dumping. He's talking about all these horrible things without 1894 00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:41,280 about all these horrible things without 1895 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,310 about all these horrible things without a filter to these people. And people 1896 00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:44,320 a filter to these people. And people 1897 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,589 a filter to these people. And people were giving the excuse, well, they're 1898 00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:45,599 were giving the excuse, well, they're 1899 00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:47,990 were giving the excuse, well, they're older teens. They're like this age. When 1900 00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:48,000 older teens. They're like this age. When 1901 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,790 older teens. They're like this age. When in reality, the age range was like was a 1902 00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:50,800 in reality, the age range was like was a 1903 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,109 in reality, the age range was like was a lot broader than like 16, 17. They were 1904 00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:53,119 lot broader than like 16, 17. They were 1905 00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:55,349 lot broader than like 16, 17. They were 14y olds, 13 year olds, and they're the 1906 00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:55,359 14y olds, 13 year olds, and they're the 1907 00:36:55,359 --> 00:36:57,109 14y olds, 13 year olds, and they're the broader range is like from 13 to early 1908 00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:57,119 broader range is like from 13 to early 1909 00:36:57,119 --> 00:36:59,030 broader range is like from 13 to early 20s. in that server and it's unfair to 1910 00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:59,040 20s. in that server and it's unfair to 1911 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,630 20s. in that server and it's unfair to assume that just because it appears that 1912 00:37:00,630 --> 00:37:00,640 assume that just because it appears that 1913 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,710 assume that just because it appears that people are older that you should trauma 1914 00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:02,720 people are older that you should trauma 1915 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,710 people are older that you should trauma dump to these people. They did have an 1916 00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:04,720 dump to these people. They did have an 1917 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:06,870 dump to these people. They did have an NSFW channel in that main server, but I 1918 00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:06,880 NSFW channel in that main server, but I 1919 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,349 NSFW channel in that main server, but I wasn't around when it was a thing. And 1920 00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:09,359 wasn't around when it was a thing. And 1921 00:37:09,359 --> 00:37:11,750 wasn't around when it was a thing. And what year was this about? I'm not 1922 00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:11,760 what year was this about? I'm not 1923 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,829 what year was this about? I'm not entirely sure. I remember being there 1924 00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:13,839 entirely sure. I remember being there 1925 00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:15,310 entirely sure. I remember being there when that channel got 1926 00:37:15,310 --> 00:37:15,320 when that channel got 1927 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,829 when that channel got deleted, I think. When did you guys join 1928 00:37:17,829 --> 00:37:17,839 deleted, I think. When did you guys join 1929 00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:20,630 deleted, I think. When did you guys join the server? Um, I joined the server in 1930 00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:20,640 the server? Um, I joined the server in 1931 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,069 the server? Um, I joined the server in May 2018, and it was around then. I 1932 00:37:24,069 --> 00:37:24,079 May 2018, and it was around then. I 1933 00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:25,990 May 2018, and it was around then. I joined in December. I don't know how 1934 00:37:25,990 --> 00:37:26,000 joined in December. I don't know how 1935 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,670 joined in December. I don't know how long it was around. Like the server has 1936 00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:27,680 long it was around. Like the server has 1937 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,470 long it was around. Like the server has existed since 1938 00:37:29,470 --> 00:37:29,480 existed since 1939 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,589 existed since 2016, but it may have been around since 1940 00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:33,599 2016, but it may have been around since 1941 00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:35,990 2016, but it may have been around since the beginning. I'm not sure, but it was 1942 00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:36,000 the beginning. I'm not sure, but it was 1943 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,109 the beginning. I'm not sure, but it was around 2018. That's for sure. And 1944 00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:39,119 around 2018. That's for sure. And 1945 00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:40,630 around 2018. That's for sure. And another thing I wanted to bring up is 1946 00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:40,640 another thing I wanted to bring up is 1947 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,230 another thing I wanted to bring up is that the moderators do not go through 1948 00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:42,240 that the moderators do not go through 1949 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:45,109 that the moderators do not go through former formal training from what I could 1950 00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:45,119 former formal training from what I could 1951 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:47,430 former formal training from what I could tell. I was there and he just picked 1952 00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:47,440 tell. I was there and he just picked 1953 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,270 tell. I was there and he just picked someone and he was like, "Oh, you should 1954 00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:49,280 someone and he was like, "Oh, you should 1955 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,349 someone and he was like, "Oh, you should be a moderator now. You've been a friend 1956 00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:51,359 be a moderator now. You've been a friend 1957 00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:54,069 be a moderator now. You've been a friend for long enough." And like I said, he 1958 00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:54,079 for long enough." And like I said, he 1959 00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:56,310 for long enough." And like I said, he he's hired minor moderators. The most 1960 00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:56,320 he's hired minor moderators. The most 1961 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,589 he's hired minor moderators. The most recent one just turned 18 18 last year. 1962 00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:59,599 recent one just turned 18 18 last year. 1963 00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:01,829 recent one just turned 18 18 last year. They graduated high school last year and 1964 00:38:01,829 --> 00:38:01,839 They graduated high school last year and 1965 00:38:01,839 --> 00:38:03,589 They graduated high school last year and they were a moderator the entire time in 1966 00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:03,599 they were a moderator the entire time in 1967 00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:07,349 they were a moderator the entire time in the server from 2018 to 2023. And I'm 20 1968 00:38:07,349 --> 00:38:07,359 the server from 2018 to 2023. And I'm 20 1969 00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:08,950 the server from 2018 to 2023. And I'm 20 now. So they were younger than me that 1970 00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:08,960 now. So they were younger than me that 1971 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,270 now. So they were younger than me that entire time. And as far as I'm aware, I 1972 00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:11,280 entire time. And as far as I'm aware, I 1973 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,270 entire time. And as far as I'm aware, I heard they were recommended to someone. 1974 00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:13,280 heard they were recommended to someone. 1975 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,190 heard they were recommended to someone. No, they got they got picked randomly. 1976 00:38:15,190 --> 00:38:15,200 No, they got they got picked randomly. 1977 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,630 No, they got they got picked randomly. They got picked randomly. I remember 1978 00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:16,640 They got picked randomly. I remember 1979 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,270 They got picked randomly. I remember this. Yeah, it was weird. They just got 1980 00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:19,280 this. Yeah, it was weird. They just got 1981 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,069 this. Yeah, it was weird. They just got picked for no reason. And they even told 1982 00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:22,079 picked for no reason. And they even told 1983 00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:24,150 picked for no reason. And they even told me several times in DMs when they were a 1984 00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:24,160 me several times in DMs when they were a 1985 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,910 me several times in DMs when they were a moderator like you should have been it 1986 00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:25,920 moderator like you should have been it 1987 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,790 moderator like you should have been it not me 1988 00:38:27,790 --> 00:38:27,800 not me 1989 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,630 not me because I don't know they thought of 1990 00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:30,640 because I don't know they thought of 1991 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,510 because I don't know they thought of them of them themselves as not being 1992 00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:33,520 them of them themselves as not being 1993 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,270 them of them themselves as not being capable enough to be a moderator but 1994 00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:35,280 capable enough to be a moderator but 1995 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,190 capable enough to be a moderator but they still were anyway. Yeah I can get 1996 00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:37,200 they still were anyway. Yeah I can get 1997 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,710 they still were anyway. Yeah I can get the point of having moderators being 1998 00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:38,720 the point of having moderators being 1999 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:40,230 the point of having moderators being subjective but the very least they 2000 00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:40,240 subjective but the very least they 2001 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:42,069 subjective but the very least they should not be minors. They should also 2002 00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:42,079 should not be minors. They should also 2003 00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:43,910 should not be minors. They should also know it's actual work and should be okay 2004 00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:43,920 know it's actual work and should be okay 2005 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,510 know it's actual work and should be okay with whatever work they get. Usually 2006 00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:45,520 with whatever work they get. Usually 2007 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,510 with whatever work they get. Usually mods are like, "Hey minor, don't go on 2008 00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:47,520 mods are like, "Hey minor, don't go on 2009 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,829 mods are like, "Hey minor, don't go on the 18 plus chat." Or, "Have a question? 2010 00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:49,839 the 18 plus chat." Or, "Have a question? 2011 00:38:49,839 --> 00:38:52,550 the 18 plus chat." Or, "Have a question? We'll help you." Just Exactly. So, was 2012 00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:52,560 We'll help you." Just Exactly. So, was 2013 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,470 We'll help you." Just Exactly. So, was the minor activity in both servers the 2014 00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:54,480 the minor activity in both servers the 2015 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,069 the minor activity in both servers the only thing that gave off red flags or 2016 00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:56,079 only thing that gave off red flags or 2017 00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:58,230 only thing that gave off red flags or was there any other behavior? Oh, 2018 00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:58,240 was there any other behavior? Oh, 2019 00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:01,910 was there any other behavior? Oh, there's way more. Um, I remember um in 2020 00:39:01,910 --> 00:39:01,920 there's way more. Um, I remember um in 2021 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,950 there's way more. Um, I remember um in the Diego community, there was a lot of 2022 00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:04,960 the Diego community, there was a lot of 2023 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,230 the Diego community, there was a lot of um predators, like groomers and such, 2024 00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:08,240 um predators, like groomers and such, 2025 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:11,270 um predators, like groomers and such, and they got exposed like monthly 2026 00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:11,280 and they got exposed like monthly 2027 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,270 and they got exposed like monthly sometimes, like every other month there 2028 00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:13,280 sometimes, like every other month there 2029 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,270 sometimes, like every other month there would be another one. and they would 2030 00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:15,280 would be another one. and they would 2031 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,829 would be another one. and they would never get acknowledged by the team. And 2032 00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:17,839 never get acknowledged by the team. And 2033 00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:20,270 never get acknowledged by the team. And it was just horrible. 2034 00:39:20,270 --> 00:39:20,280 it was just horrible. 2035 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,190 it was just horrible. Um like um this is going to get very 2036 00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:23,200 Um like um this is going to get very 2037 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,349 Um like um this is going to get very personal real quick, but at some point I 2038 00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:25,359 personal real quick, but at some point I 2039 00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:28,230 personal real quick, but at some point I was groomed by someone in there and I 2040 00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:28,240 was groomed by someone in there and I 2041 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:32,710 was groomed by someone in there and I exposed them like two years ago. Um and 2042 00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:32,720 exposed them like two years ago. Um and 2043 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,030 exposed them like two years ago. Um and I posted it in the server as in like I 2044 00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:35,040 I posted it in the server as in like I 2045 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,349 I posted it in the server as in like I made a Twitter thread and I posted it in 2046 00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:37,359 made a Twitter thread and I posted it in 2047 00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:40,630 made a Twitter thread and I posted it in there. Well, I had my I asked my like my 2048 00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:40,640 there. Well, I had my I asked my like my 2049 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,670 there. Well, I had my I asked my like my friend to post it because I didn't want 2050 00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:43,680 friend to post it because I didn't want 2051 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,589 friend to post it because I didn't want to do do it myself because I was a 2052 00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:45,599 to do do it myself because I was a 2053 00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:48,349 to do do it myself because I was a public figure at the time in the Dance 2054 00:39:48,349 --> 00:39:48,359 public figure at the time in the Dance 2055 00:39:48,359 --> 00:39:51,910 public figure at the time in the Dance community. Um, and it got deleted like 2056 00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:51,920 community. Um, and it got deleted like 2057 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,390 community. Um, and it got deleted like instantly because it was just drama 2058 00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:54,400 instantly because it was just drama 2059 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,349 instantly because it was just drama tarnishing the brands. And so to 2060 00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:57,359 tarnishing the brands. And so to 2061 00:39:57,359 --> 00:39:59,190 tarnishing the brands. And so to summarize, it's not abnormal for 2062 00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:59,200 summarize, it's not abnormal for 2063 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,870 summarize, it's not abnormal for predators to be attracted to online 2064 00:40:00,870 --> 00:40:00,880 predators to be attracted to online 2065 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,349 predators to be attracted to online spaces that maybe make fandom content, 2066 00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:03,359 spaces that maybe make fandom content, 2067 00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:04,950 spaces that maybe make fandom content, but it's kind of scary when the mod team 2068 00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:04,960 but it's kind of scary when the mod team 2069 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,109 but it's kind of scary when the mod team is burying it. One of them literally got 2070 00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:07,119 is burying it. One of them literally got 2071 00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:08,630 is burying it. One of them literally got arrested for having CP in their 2072 00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:08,640 arrested for having CP in their 2073 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,550 arrested for having CP in their possession. Um, yeah, there's this one 2074 00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:10,560 possession. Um, yeah, there's this one 2075 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,630 possession. Um, yeah, there's this one guy that got arrested for like 34 2076 00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:12,640 guy that got arrested for like 34 2077 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,589 guy that got arrested for like 34 accounts of 2078 00:40:14,589 --> 00:40:14,599 accounts of 2079 00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:18,069 accounts of child like 3 years ago and they never 2080 00:40:18,069 --> 00:40:18,079 child like 3 years ago and they never 2081 00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:20,310 child like 3 years ago and they never got acknowledged by the team e either 2082 00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:20,320 got acknowledged by the team e either 2083 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,990 got acknowledged by the team e either and he was pretty prominent in the 2084 00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:22,000 and he was pretty prominent in the 2085 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,910 and he was pretty prominent in the server. He would make animations and he 2086 00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:23,920 server. He would make animations and he 2087 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,550 server. He would make animations and he was really popular and he was kicked 2088 00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:26,560 was really popular and he was kicked 2089 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,310 was really popular and he was kicked once that came out at the very least, 2090 00:40:28,310 --> 00:40:28,320 once that came out at the very least, 2091 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,750 once that came out at the very least, right? We don't know. We don't know. 2092 00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:31,760 right? We don't know. We don't know. 2093 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,750 right? We don't know. We don't know. There's a pro there's a probability he 2094 00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:33,760 There's a pro there's a probability he 2095 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,829 There's a pro there's a probability he probably was, but they do have a thing 2096 00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:35,839 probably was, but they do have a thing 2097 00:40:35,839 --> 00:40:37,910 probably was, but they do have a thing where like if you suspect someone being 2098 00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:37,920 where like if you suspect someone being 2099 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,310 where like if you suspect someone being weird, they will investigate and kick 2100 00:40:40,310 --> 00:40:40,320 weird, they will investigate and kick 2101 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,270 weird, they will investigate and kick them. But it's done very badly. It's 2102 00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:43,280 them. But it's done very badly. It's 2103 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,670 them. But it's done very badly. It's done really badly. Like from personal 2104 00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:45,680 done really badly. Like from personal 2105 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,589 done really badly. Like from personal experience, it's so bad. Like I tried to 2106 00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:49,599 experience, it's so bad. Like I tried to 2107 00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:51,750 experience, it's so bad. Like I tried to come forward about my groomer like way 2108 00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:51,760 come forward about my groomer like way 2109 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,069 come forward about my groomer like way before I posted about it and they were 2110 00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:54,079 before I posted about it and they were 2111 00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:55,510 before I posted about it and they were like, "Hey, do you have proof of this?" 2112 00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:55,520 like, "Hey, do you have proof of this?" 2113 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,030 like, "Hey, do you have proof of this?" And I was like, "No, I deleted those 2114 00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:57,040 And I was like, "No, I deleted those 2115 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,870 And I was like, "No, I deleted those chats because I don't want to see that 2116 00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:58,880 chats because I don't want to see that 2117 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,109 chats because I don't want to see that shit." And they were like, "Okay, but 2118 00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:03,119 shit." And they were like, "Okay, but 2119 00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:04,309 shit." And they were like, "Okay, but you can get him back." And I was like, 2120 00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:04,319 you can get him back." And I was like, 2121 00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:06,550 you can get him back." And I was like, "Okay, how could [\h__\h] help me?" Cuz I 2122 00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:06,560 "Okay, how could [\h__\h] help me?" Cuz I 2123 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,910 "Okay, how could [\h__\h] help me?" Cuz I was panicking. And they were like, 2124 00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:09,920 was panicking. And they were like, 2125 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,069 was panicking. And they were like, "Figure it out yourself." So, you're 2126 00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:12,079 "Figure it out yourself." So, you're 2127 00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:14,790 "Figure it out yourself." So, you're going to tell a child in a panic state 2128 00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:14,800 going to tell a child in a panic state 2129 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,270 going to tell a child in a panic state to just figure it out themselves or else 2130 00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:17,280 to just figure it out themselves or else 2131 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,710 to just figure it out themselves or else we're not or otherwise we're not going 2132 00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:18,720 we're not or otherwise we're not going 2133 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:23,349 we're not or otherwise we're not going to do anything. It's really weird. Um I 2134 00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:23,359 to do anything. It's really weird. Um I 2135 00:41:23,359 --> 00:41:25,270 to do anything. It's really weird. Um I don't know. I'm I'm getting heated. I'm 2136 00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:25,280 don't know. I'm I'm getting heated. I'm 2137 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,109 don't know. I'm I'm getting heated. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. It's just so 2138 00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:27,119 sorry. No, it's okay. It's just so 2139 00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:28,390 sorry. No, it's okay. It's just so [\h__\h] dumb to me that they don't do 2140 00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:28,400 [\h__\h] dumb to me that they don't do 2141 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,829 [\h__\h] dumb to me that they don't do the bare minimum or just like don't have 2142 00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:29,839 the bare minimum or just like don't have 2143 00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:32,470 the bare minimum or just like don't have a server that's open to miners. It 2144 00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:32,480 a server that's open to miners. It 2145 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,069 a server that's open to miners. It reminds me of last year when he was 2146 00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:34,079 reminds me of last year when he was 2147 00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:36,950 reminds me of last year when he was doing a set list for Momo Con and he has 2148 00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:36,960 doing a set list for Momo Con and he has 2149 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,390 doing a set list for Momo Con and he has these killer robots and he was going to 2150 00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:38,400 these killer robots and he was going to 2151 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,990 these killer robots and he was going to describe in detail how they kill people 2152 00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:40,000 describe in detail how they kill people 2153 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,589 describe in detail how they kill people and I was asking like, "Well, shouldn't 2154 00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:41,599 and I was asking like, "Well, shouldn't 2155 00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:43,910 and I was asking like, "Well, shouldn't you put a content warning on there since 2156 00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:43,920 you put a content warning on there since 2157 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,150 you put a content warning on there since most people are like coming for the DA 2158 00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:46,160 most people are like coming for the DA 2159 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,950 most people are like coming for the DA games stuff?" And he laughed at me. He 2160 00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:48,960 games stuff?" And he laughed at me. He 2161 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,390 games stuff?" And he laughed at me. He was like, "No, why should I do that? I 2162 00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:50,400 was like, "No, why should I do that? I 2163 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,069 was like, "No, why should I do that? I have a song called Mr. Dirty Balls 2164 00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:52,079 have a song called Mr. Dirty Balls 2165 00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:53,589 have a song called Mr. Dirty Balls playing. People should know that we're 2166 00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:53,599 playing. People should know that we're 2167 00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:55,270 playing. People should know that we're not for kids because that song is 2168 00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:55,280 not for kids because that song is 2169 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,270 not for kids because that song is playing." And learning the next day he 2170 00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:57,280 playing." And learning the next day he 2171 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,790 playing." And learning the next day he had to add a content warning anyway. So 2172 00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:58,800 had to add a content warning anyway. So 2173 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,230 had to add a content warning anyway. So I just kind of like threw up my hands 2174 00:42:00,230 --> 00:42:00,240 I just kind of like threw up my hands 2175 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:02,069 I just kind of like threw up my hands like okay you had to add one anyway so 2176 00:42:02,069 --> 00:42:02,079 like okay you had to add one anyway so 2177 00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:04,230 like okay you had to add one anyway so why were you throwing a fit about it? 2178 00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:04,240 why were you throwing a fit about it? 2179 00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:06,950 why were you throwing a fit about it? Yeah. He gets upset at like the smallest 2180 00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:06,960 Yeah. He gets upset at like the smallest 2181 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,829 Yeah. He gets upset at like the smallest things ever and it's so annoying. So 2182 00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:09,839 things ever and it's so annoying. So 2183 00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:12,150 things ever and it's so annoying. So it's really hard to like come forward 2184 00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:12,160 it's really hard to like come forward 2185 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,109 it's really hard to like come forward about bigger stuff too. Were any of the 2186 00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:15,119 about bigger stuff too. Were any of the 2187 00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:16,630 about bigger stuff too. Were any of the other team members supportive when you 2188 00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:16,640 other team members supportive when you 2189 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,150 other team members supportive when you came forward? Because my understanding 2190 00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:18,160 came forward? Because my understanding 2191 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,069 came forward? Because my understanding is that when you go to Will for stuff he 2192 00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:20,079 is that when you go to Will for stuff he 2193 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:22,550 is that when you go to Will for stuff he kind of brushes it off. Well, he either 2194 00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:22,560 kind of brushes it off. Well, he either 2195 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,750 kind of brushes it off. Well, he either brushes brushes it off or he sends 2196 00:42:26,750 --> 00:42:26,760 brushes brushes it off or he sends 2197 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,150 brushes brushes it off or he sends HR. Um, the person that's that's 2198 00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:30,160 HR. Um, the person that's that's 2199 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,589 HR. Um, the person that's that's currently HR um usually will just go 2200 00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:33,599 currently HR um usually will just go 2201 00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:35,630 currently HR um usually will just go into your DMs just be like, 2202 00:42:35,630 --> 00:42:35,640 into your DMs just be like, 2203 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,390 into your DMs just be like, "Yo, don't bring negative stuff to Will. 2204 00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:38,400 "Yo, don't bring negative stuff to Will. 2205 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,550 "Yo, don't bring negative stuff to Will. He cannot handle it right now." And he 2206 00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:40,560 He cannot handle it right now." And he 2207 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,670 He cannot handle it right now." And he never handles it. So, it's frustrating 2208 00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:43,680 never handles it. So, it's frustrating 2209 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,190 never handles it. So, it's frustrating as hell. And I just made them HR this 2210 00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:47,200 as hell. And I just made them HR this 2211 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,870 as hell. And I just made them HR this year. Is the HR person public figure? 2212 00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:50,880 year. Is the HR person public figure? 2213 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,470 year. Is the HR person public figure? Not anymore. They did have a Twitter 2214 00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:52,480 Not anymore. They did have a Twitter 2215 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,150 Not anymore. They did have a Twitter account, but one of the gripes I have is 2216 00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:54,160 account, but one of the gripes I have is 2217 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,750 account, but one of the gripes I have is that as an HR person, they live with 2218 00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:55,760 that as an HR person, they live with 2219 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,990 that as an HR person, they live with him. They're friends with everyone in 2220 00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:58,000 him. They're friends with everyone in 2221 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,510 him. They're friends with everyone in there. So, when it comes to certain 2222 00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:59,520 there. So, when it comes to certain 2223 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,270 there. So, when it comes to certain situations like yours, technically they 2224 00:43:01,270 --> 00:43:01,280 situations like yours, technically they 2225 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,710 situations like yours, technically they should not be handling that because they 2226 00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:02,720 should not be handling that because they 2227 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:05,270 should not be handling that because they are not a neutral third party. Does she 2228 00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:05,280 are not a neutral third party. Does she 2229 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,950 are not a neutral third party. Does she have like a social presence? Like, is 2230 00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:06,960 have like a social presence? Like, is 2231 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,109 have like a social presence? Like, is she known for being friends with Will? 2232 00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:09,119 she known for being friends with Will? 2233 00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:12,950 she known for being friends with Will? Yes, to some degree. Like, if to some 2234 00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:12,960 Yes, to some degree. Like, if to some 2235 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,270 Yes, to some degree. Like, if to some degree she's public when like when you 2236 00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:15,280 degree she's public when like when you 2237 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,510 degree she's public when like when you go into DM's live stream, she will be 2238 00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:17,520 go into DM's live stream, she will be 2239 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,630 go into DM's live stream, she will be there as a moderator. things such as 2240 00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:20,640 there as a moderator. things such as 2241 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,030 there as a moderator. things such as like that. It seems like the running 2242 00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:23,040 like that. It seems like the running 2243 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,630 like that. It seems like the running theme is Will can't handle whatever the 2244 00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:24,640 theme is Will can't handle whatever the 2245 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,230 theme is Will can't handle whatever the conflict is because he can't address it. 2246 00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:26,240 conflict is because he can't address it. 2247 00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:28,230 conflict is because he can't address it. Yeah, pretty much. Okay, so let's talk 2248 00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:28,240 Yeah, pretty much. Okay, so let's talk 2249 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:29,829 Yeah, pretty much. Okay, so let's talk about some troublesome behavior you saw 2250 00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:29,839 about some troublesome behavior you saw 2251 00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:31,670 about some troublesome behavior you saw from Will. I know he dated a minor in 2252 00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:31,680 from Will. I know he dated a minor in 2253 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,910 from Will. I know he dated a minor in 2015 and there was a lot of end slurs 2254 00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:33,920 2015 and there was a lot of end slurs 2255 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,030 2015 and there was a lot of end slurs and a lot of anti-semitic 2256 00:43:36,030 --> 00:43:36,040 and a lot of anti-semitic 2257 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,309 and a lot of anti-semitic slurs. Great stuff. Do you have any 2258 00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:38,319 slurs. Great stuff. Do you have any 2259 00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:40,069 slurs. Great stuff. Do you have any antidotes or things to share on top of 2260 00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:40,079 antidotes or things to share on top of 2261 00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:41,670 antidotes or things to share on top of that? 2262 00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:41,680 that? 2263 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,190 that? Just recently someone did some more 2264 00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:43,200 Just recently someone did some more 2265 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,910 Just recently someone did some more digging when they found out on a live 2266 00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:45,920 digging when they found out on a live 2267 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,589 digging when they found out on a live stream clip but was looking at some site 2268 00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:47,599 stream clip but was looking at some site 2269 00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:50,950 stream clip but was looking at some site called like young people born.com and 2270 00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:50,960 called like young people born.com and 2271 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,390 called like young people born.com and they did some more digging on the way 2272 00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:52,400 they did some more digging on the way 2273 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,950 they did some more digging on the way back machine. What drove you to make 2274 00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:54,960 back machine. What drove you to make 2275 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,710 back machine. What drove you to make this document? Was it the predator 2276 00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:56,720 this document? Was it the predator 2277 00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:58,069 this document? Was it the predator thing? Like what was the straw that 2278 00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:58,079 thing? Like what was the straw that 2279 00:43:58,079 --> 00:43:59,829 thing? Like what was the straw that broke the camel's back and you just were 2280 00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:59,839 broke the camel's back and you just were 2281 00:43:59,839 --> 00:44:01,349 broke the camel's back and you just were like [\h__\h] it. We need to write all this 2282 00:44:01,349 --> 00:44:01,359 like [\h__\h] it. We need to write all this 2283 00:44:01,359 --> 00:44:05,109 like [\h__\h] it. We need to write all this stuff down. Um I think it was just 2284 00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:05,119 stuff down. Um I think it was just 2285 00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:08,790 stuff down. Um I think it was just generally um we were frustrated about a 2286 00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:08,800 generally um we were frustrated about a 2287 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,230 generally um we were frustrated about a lot of things. We talked to each other 2288 00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:10,240 lot of things. We talked to each other 2289 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:13,309 lot of things. We talked to each other and then we found about about the NSFW 2290 00:44:13,309 --> 00:44:13,319 and then we found about about the NSFW 2291 00:44:13,319 --> 00:44:16,230 and then we found about about the NSFW stuff and we decided, nope, Disney needs 2292 00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:16,240 stuff and we decided, nope, Disney needs 2293 00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:18,790 stuff and we decided, nope, Disney needs to get out there. That's pretty much how 2294 00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:18,800 to get out there. That's pretty much how 2295 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,630 to get out there. That's pretty much how it went. We stumbled across it as well. 2296 00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:20,640 it went. We stumbled across it as well. 2297 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,069 it went. We stumbled across it as well. We were literally just messing around 2298 00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:22,079 We were literally just messing around 2299 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:24,470 We were literally just messing around and that's when we found it and thought, 2300 00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:24,480 and that's when we found it and thought, 2301 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,750 and that's when we found it and thought, well, this doesn't look right. And we 2302 00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:25,760 well, this doesn't look right. And we 2303 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,030 well, this doesn't look right. And we did some digging and we're like, "This 2304 00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:27,040 did some digging and we're like, "This 2305 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,430 did some digging and we're like, "This isn't right at all." 2306 00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:29,440 isn't right at all." 2307 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,030 isn't right at all." So, you went back through Will's history 2308 00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:31,040 So, you went back through Will's history 2309 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,990 So, you went back through Will's history and saw the anti-semitism. And um 2310 00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:34,000 and saw the anti-semitism. And um 2311 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,589 and saw the anti-semitism. And um there's one point where he justifies 2312 00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:35,599 there's one point where he justifies 2313 00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:38,470 there's one point where he justifies using the n-word as a white person and I 2314 00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:38,480 using the n-word as a white person and I 2315 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,710 using the n-word as a white person and I thought that was really sad. So what was 2316 00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:40,720 thought that was really sad. So what was 2317 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:42,069 thought that was really sad. So what was the response when he released his first 2318 00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:42,079 the response when he released his first 2319 00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:44,150 the response when he released his first version of the document? Well, the first 2320 00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:44,160 version of the document? Well, the first 2321 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,710 version of the document? Well, the first version came out like really weird. Like 2322 00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:46,720 version came out like really weird. Like 2323 00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:49,109 version came out like really weird. Like we tried to get like fans to see it. So 2324 00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:49,119 we tried to get like fans to see it. So 2325 00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:51,589 we tried to get like fans to see it. So we made a fan account and then like turn 2326 00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:51,599 we made a fan account and then like turn 2327 00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:54,270 we made a fan account and then like turn it into the release account. It was 2328 00:44:54,270 --> 00:44:54,280 it into the release account. It was 2329 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,829 it into the release account. It was stupid. That one went really bad and 2330 00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:57,839 stupid. That one went really bad and 2331 00:44:57,839 --> 00:45:00,550 stupid. That one went really bad and like you can say more about that. Like 2332 00:45:00,550 --> 00:45:00,560 like you can say more about that. Like 2333 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,190 like you can say more about that. Like it affected you mostly. Yeah, it just 2334 00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:03,200 it affected you mostly. Yeah, it just 2335 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,150 it affected you mostly. Yeah, it just went really badly. We were still fans at 2336 00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:06,160 went really badly. We were still fans at 2337 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,390 went really badly. We were still fans at that point and we were just like really 2338 00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:08,400 that point and we were just like really 2339 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,150 that point and we were just like really heartbroken. So, the doc was very 2340 00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:10,160 heartbroken. So, the doc was very 2341 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,270 heartbroken. So, the doc was very emotionally charged and it had and it 2342 00:45:13,270 --> 00:45:13,280 emotionally charged and it had and it 2343 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,109 emotionally charged and it had and it just had stuff in it in there that 2344 00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:15,119 just had stuff in it in there that 2345 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:17,030 just had stuff in it in there that didn't really need to be in there. And 2346 00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:17,040 didn't really need to be in there. And 2347 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,109 didn't really need to be in there. And then also after he came out trending on 2348 00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:19,119 then also after he came out trending on 2349 00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:21,030 then also after he came out trending on Twitter like two mods, one of them was 2350 00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:21,040 Twitter like two mods, one of them was 2351 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,829 Twitter like two mods, one of them was this HR person came to me and they put 2352 00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:23,839 this HR person came to me and they put 2353 00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:25,109 this HR person came to me and they put me in like a group chat and they told 2354 00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:25,119 me in like a group chat and they told 2355 00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:26,550 me in like a group chat and they told me, "You have to fix this." And I'm 2356 00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:26,560 me, "You have to fix this." And I'm 2357 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,910 me, "You have to fix this." And I'm like, "I'm in a college class. I can't 2358 00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:27,920 like, "I'm in a college class. I can't 2359 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,069 like, "I'm in a college class. I can't fix this right now." But I still had to 2360 00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:30,079 fix this right now." But I still had to 2361 00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:32,870 fix this right now." But I still had to do this anyway. And after a couple more 2362 00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:32,880 do this anyway. And after a couple more 2363 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,470 do this anyway. And after a couple more screenshots came out, the HR person was 2364 00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:34,480 screenshots came out, the HR person was 2365 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,750 screenshots came out, the HR person was like, "Is there anything else that's 2366 00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:35,760 like, "Is there anything else that's 2367 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,349 like, "Is there anything else that's going on?" Because if there is, I'm one 2368 00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:37,359 going on?" Because if there is, I'm one 2369 00:45:37,359 --> 00:45:39,750 going on?" Because if there is, I'm one step away from flipping switches and 2370 00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:39,760 step away from flipping switches and 2371 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,270 step away from flipping switches and ruining lives. And I was really scared 2372 00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:41,280 ruining lives. And I was really scared 2373 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,190 ruining lives. And I was really scared at that point. And rightfully kicked me 2374 00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:43,200 at that point. And rightfully kicked me 2375 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,550 at that point. And rightfully kicked me from the friend group because I was so 2376 00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:44,560 from the friend group because I was so 2377 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,550 from the friend group because I was so scared it was going to happen to them. I 2378 00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:46,560 scared it was going to happen to them. I 2379 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,910 scared it was going to happen to them. I just ended up throwing them under the 2380 00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:47,920 just ended up throwing them under the 2381 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,829 just ended up throwing them under the bus because I was so scared and under 2382 00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:49,839 bus because I was so scared and under 2383 00:45:49,839 --> 00:45:52,390 bus because I was so scared and under pressure. Like we changed the password 2384 00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:52,400 pressure. Like we changed the password 2385 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,750 pressure. Like we changed the password for the Twitter account and everything 2386 00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:53,760 for the Twitter account and everything 2387 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,630 for the Twitter account and everything cuz we could not have this go south. 2388 00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:56,640 cuz we could not have this go south. 2389 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,950 cuz we could not have this go south. Yeah. And when the second document came 2390 00:45:58,950 --> 00:45:58,960 Yeah. And when the second document came 2391 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,270 Yeah. And when the second document came out, I reached out again and I was 2392 00:46:01,270 --> 00:46:01,280 out, I reached out again and I was 2393 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,790 out, I reached out again and I was basically confirmed that was what 2394 00:46:03,790 --> 00:46:03,800 basically confirmed that was what 2395 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,230 basically confirmed that was what happened. And I put out my secondary 2396 00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:06,240 happened. And I put out my secondary 2397 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:07,750 happened. And I put out my secondary statement on Twitter because the initial 2398 00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:07,760 statement on Twitter because the initial 2399 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,230 statement on Twitter because the initial apology, well, the quote unquote apology 2400 00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:10,240 apology, well, the quote unquote apology 2401 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:13,270 apology, well, the quote unquote apology that I made the first time, it went uh 2402 00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:13,280 that I made the first time, it went uh 2403 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,950 that I made the first time, it went uh it went through those two people and it 2404 00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:14,960 it went through those two people and it 2405 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,750 it went through those two people and it was heavily sanitized. They wanted me to 2406 00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:17,760 was heavily sanitized. They wanted me to 2407 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,750 was heavily sanitized. They wanted me to say he apologized in BC, he did this, he 2408 00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:19,760 say he apologized in BC, he did this, he 2409 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,230 say he apologized in BC, he did this, he did that. And I was supposedly there to 2410 00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:22,240 did that. And I was supposedly there to 2411 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:24,630 did that. And I was supposedly there to witness when he did those things. And as 2412 00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:24,640 witness when he did those things. And as 2413 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,030 witness when he did those things. And as a result, people started disregarding 2414 00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:27,040 a result, people started disregarding 2415 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,030 a result, people started disregarding everything as fake. And so I wanted to 2416 00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:29,040 everything as fake. And so I wanted to 2417 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,030 everything as fake. And so I wanted to make that secondary statement to explain 2418 00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:31,040 make that secondary statement to explain 2419 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,190 make that secondary statement to explain that nothing was fake. And I was 2420 00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:33,200 that nothing was fake. And I was 2421 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,630 that nothing was fake. And I was pressured into writing something I 2422 00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:34,640 pressured into writing something I 2423 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,790 pressured into writing something I didn't really believe in. And then later 2424 00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:36,800 didn't really believe in. And then later 2425 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,230 didn't really believe in. And then later those two people would come forward in 2426 00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:38,240 those two people would come forward in 2427 00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:40,510 those two people would come forward in private and apologize to me for doing 2428 00:46:40,510 --> 00:46:40,520 private and apologize to me for doing 2429 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,270 private and apologize to me for doing that. So let me get this straight, guys. 2430 00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:43,280 that. So let me get this straight, guys. 2431 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,589 that. So let me get this straight, guys. So two official DA games ambassadors, 2432 00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:45,599 So two official DA games ambassadors, 2433 00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:47,270 So two official DA games ambassadors, mods, whatever you want to call them, 2434 00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:47,280 mods, whatever you want to call them, 2435 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,870 mods, whatever you want to call them, basically tried to legally threaten you 2436 00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:48,880 basically tried to legally threaten you 2437 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,670 basically tried to legally threaten you to formally apologize or else wagging. 2438 00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:51,680 to formally apologize or else wagging. 2439 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,589 to formally apologize or else wagging. Is that basically what happened? pretty 2440 00:46:53,589 --> 00:46:53,599 Is that basically what happened? pretty 2441 00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:55,750 Is that basically what happened? pretty much this H4 person, she's braced about 2442 00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:55,760 much this H4 person, she's braced about 2443 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,750 much this H4 person, she's braced about being a former Kiwi farmer and like 2444 00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:57,760 being a former Kiwi farmer and like 2445 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,589 being a former Kiwi farmer and like digging stuff up about people. So, I 2446 00:46:59,589 --> 00:46:59,599 digging stuff up about people. So, I 2447 00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,109 digging stuff up about people. So, I knew she had a capacity to do those 2448 00:47:01,109 --> 00:47:01,119 knew she had a capacity to do those 2449 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:03,030 knew she had a capacity to do those types of things. Those people on those 2450 00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:03,040 types of things. Those people on those 2451 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,510 types of things. Those people on those sites do and I don't want that to happen 2452 00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:05,520 sites do and I don't want that to happen 2453 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,109 sites do and I don't want that to happen to me. I don't want that to happen and 2454 00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:07,119 to me. I don't want that to happen and 2455 00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:08,550 to me. I don't want that to happen and the other people who were working there. 2456 00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:08,560 the other people who were working there. 2457 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,550 the other people who were working there. Yeah, I was especially scared. I was 2458 00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:10,560 Yeah, I was especially scared. I was 2459 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,109 Yeah, I was especially scared. I was especially scared cuz they will 2460 00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:13,119 especially scared cuz they will 2461 00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:16,309 especially scared cuz they will commission me. Like, what if they save 2462 00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:16,319 commission me. Like, what if they save 2463 00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:19,109 commission me. Like, what if they save the packaging, I send his outfit in and 2464 00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:19,119 the packaging, I send his outfit in and 2465 00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:20,790 the packaging, I send his outfit in and have my address? Like, I was scared as 2466 00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:20,800 have my address? Like, I was scared as 2467 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,710 have my address? Like, I was scared as [\h__\h] 2468 00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:22,720 [\h__\h] 2469 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:24,790 [\h__\h] So, I logged you out cuz I could not 2470 00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:24,800 So, I logged you out cuz I could not 2471 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,030 So, I logged you out cuz I could not have that happen to me. That's cool. So, 2472 00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:27,040 have that happen to me. That's cool. So, 2473 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,309 have that happen to me. That's cool. So, what happened after you released the 2474 00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:28,319 what happened after you released the 2475 00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:30,230 what happened after you released the second doc? Did anyone come after you or 2476 00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:30,240 second doc? Did anyone come after you or 2477 00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:32,230 second doc? Did anyone come after you or try to have you reprimanded? There was 2478 00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:32,240 try to have you reprimanded? There was 2479 00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:34,630 try to have you reprimanded? There was this it was really weird. Like this time 2480 00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:34,640 this it was really weird. Like this time 2481 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,790 this it was really weird. Like this time it it went okay. Like we posted it on 2482 00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:36,800 it it went okay. Like we posted it on 2483 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,829 it it went okay. Like we posted it on like the Reddit and stuff and it 2484 00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:39,839 like the Reddit and stuff and it 2485 00:47:39,839 --> 00:47:41,670 like the Reddit and stuff and it actually got some reaction which was 2486 00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:41,680 actually got some reaction which was 2487 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,870 actually got some reaction which was really cool. But there was also this one 2488 00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:44,880 really cool. But there was also this one 2489 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,349 really cool. But there was also this one person that either was the HR person of 2490 00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:47,359 person that either was the HR person of 2491 00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:49,190 person that either was the HR person of some or someone pretending to be HR 2492 00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:49,200 some or someone pretending to be HR 2493 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,790 some or someone pretending to be HR person. We still haven't figured that 2494 00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:50,800 person. We still haven't figured that 2495 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,430 person. We still haven't figured that out. because the HR person has a habit 2496 00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:53,440 out. because the HR person has a habit 2497 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,309 out. because the HR person has a habit of stalking me specifically and they 2498 00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:56,319 of stalking me specifically and they 2499 00:47:56,319 --> 00:47:58,470 of stalking me specifically and they told them to they acted like they were 2500 00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:58,480 told them to they acted like they were 2501 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,630 told them to they acted like they were going to sue me. Yeah, I remember that. 2502 00:48:00,630 --> 00:48:00,640 going to sue me. Yeah, I remember that. 2503 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,630 going to sue me. Yeah, I remember that. It was just horrible. Another thing is 2504 00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:02,640 It was just horrible. Another thing is 2505 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,390 It was just horrible. Another thing is the second doc just kind of inspired 2506 00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:04,400 the second doc just kind of inspired 2507 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,510 the second doc just kind of inspired them when they go through the server 2508 00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:05,520 them when they go through the server 2509 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,829 them when they go through the server logs and they found that people like 2510 00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:07,839 logs and they found that people like 2511 00:48:07,839 --> 00:48:09,349 logs and they found that people like Chris were going through and deleting 2512 00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:09,359 Chris were going through and deleting 2513 00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:11,190 Chris were going through and deleting all the racist stuff that they said and 2514 00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:11,200 all the racist stuff that they said and 2515 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,270 all the racist stuff that they said and they found videos and they made like a 2516 00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:13,280 they found videos and they made like a 2517 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,750 they found videos and they made like a whole archive just going back that that 2518 00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:15,760 whole archive just going back that that 2519 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,030 whole archive just going back that that they were like just going back and 2520 00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:17,040 they were like just going back and 2521 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,589 they were like just going back and deleting things. So Chris got caught 2522 00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:19,599 deleting things. So Chris got caught 2523 00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:21,910 deleting things. So Chris got caught being racist and sexist just in general. 2524 00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:21,920 being racist and sexist just in general. 2525 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,150 being racist and sexist just in general. Yeah, pretty much. So before I move on 2526 00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:24,160 Yeah, pretty much. So before I move on 2527 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,750 Yeah, pretty much. So before I move on to the last question, can you guys give 2528 00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:25,760 to the last question, can you guys give 2529 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,750 to the last question, can you guys give some context as much as you can from the 2530 00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:27,760 some context as much as you can from the 2531 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:28,950 some context as much as you can from the anonymous Chris story that you 2532 00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:28,960 anonymous Chris story that you 2533 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,190 anonymous Chris story that you interviewed the victim for? So that's 2534 00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:31,200 interviewed the victim for? So that's 2535 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,109 interviewed the victim for? So that's actually my best friend who told an 2536 00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:33,119 actually my best friend who told an 2537 00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:36,309 actually my best friend who told an anonymous story. So this had to do with 2538 00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:36,319 anonymous story. So this had to do with 2539 00:48:36,319 --> 00:48:38,309 anonymous story. So this had to do with her username which had the word animal 2540 00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:38,319 her username which had the word animal 2541 00:48:38,319 --> 00:48:42,950 her username which had the word animal in it and then her her name and um so it 2542 00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:42,960 in it and then her her name and um so it 2543 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,510 in it and then her her name and um so it actually came from 2544 00:48:44,510 --> 00:48:44,520 actually came from 2545 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,470 actually came from that like it was weird. Why? Why did 2546 00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:48,480 that like it was weird. Why? Why did 2547 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,990 that like it was weird. Why? Why did they say that? Why did they think it was 2548 00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:50,000 they say that? Why did they think it was 2549 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,750 they say that? Why did they think it was appropriate to say that to a 14-year-old 2550 00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:51,760 appropriate to say that to a 14-year-old 2551 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,549 appropriate to say that to a 14-year-old they knew was 14? What took me off guard 2552 00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:54,559 they knew was 14? What took me off guard 2553 00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:56,309 they knew was 14? What took me off guard is that the 14-year-old had met Will 2554 00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:56,319 is that the 14-year-old had met Will 2555 00:48:56,319 --> 00:48:58,870 is that the 14-year-old had met Will before. Was that at a convention? Yes, 2556 00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:58,880 before. Was that at a convention? Yes, 2557 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,309 before. Was that at a convention? Yes, it was at a convention. Okay. Okay, 2558 00:49:00,309 --> 00:49:00,319 it was at a convention. Okay. Okay, 2559 00:49:00,319 --> 00:49:01,670 it was at a convention. Okay. Okay, cool. At least that's purple. They're 2560 00:49:01,670 --> 00:49:01,680 cool. At least that's purple. They're 2561 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,270 cool. At least that's purple. They're also pretty prominent and as a person in 2562 00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:05,280 also pretty prominent and as a person in 2563 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,150 also pretty prominent and as a person in the community, so it would be weird if 2564 00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:08,160 the community, so it would be weird if 2565 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,069 the community, so it would be weird if they didn't know how old she was. Is she 2566 00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:10,079 they didn't know how old she was. Is she 2567 00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:13,309 they didn't know how old she was. Is she still prominent? No, they she got 2568 00:49:13,309 --> 00:49:13,319 still prominent? No, they she got 2569 00:49:13,319 --> 00:49:15,990 still prominent? No, they she got banned and now she [\h__\h] hates their 2570 00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:16,000 banned and now she [\h__\h] hates their 2571 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,549 banned and now she [\h__\h] hates their guts. So, so the whole team has a 2572 00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:18,559 guts. So, so the whole team has a 2573 00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:19,910 guts. So, so the whole team has a controlling presence with their fan base 2574 00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:19,920 controlling presence with their fan base 2575 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,870 controlling presence with their fan base and on social media, right? Yeah. Yeah, 2576 00:49:22,870 --> 00:49:22,880 and on social media, right? Yeah. Yeah, 2577 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,790 and on social media, right? Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. So, my last question is 2578 00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:24,800 pretty much. So, my last question is 2579 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,150 pretty much. So, my last question is unless you guys wanted to add anything 2580 00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:26,160 unless you guys wanted to add anything 2581 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,910 unless you guys wanted to add anything else as far as any general stories or 2582 00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:27,920 else as far as any general stories or 2583 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,470 else as far as any general stories or experiences or anything. So, as I 2584 00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:30,480 experiences or anything. So, as I 2585 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,470 experiences or anything. So, as I mentioned before, I was a fan artist and 2586 00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:32,480 mentioned before, I was a fan artist and 2587 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,150 mentioned before, I was a fan artist and at the beginning of Iris, I would make 2588 00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:34,160 at the beginning of Iris, I would make 2589 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,710 at the beginning of Iris, I would make interpretations of characters and we go 2590 00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:36,720 interpretations of characters and we go 2591 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:38,309 interpretations of characters and we go and Will would go on the chat and say, 2592 00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:38,319 and Will would go on the chat and say, 2593 00:49:38,319 --> 00:49:40,230 and Will would go on the chat and say, "These interpretations give me anxiety 2594 00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:40,240 "These interpretations give me anxiety 2595 00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:41,750 "These interpretations give me anxiety because now I'm scared they're not going 2596 00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:41,760 because now I'm scared they're not going 2597 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:42,870 because now I'm scared they're not going to be able to live up to these 2598 00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:42,880 to be able to live up to these 2599 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,109 to be able to live up to these expectations." Let me backtrack. What is 2600 00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:45,119 expectations." Let me backtrack. What is 2601 00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:47,190 expectations." Let me backtrack. What is Iris? Is that a song they've done? I'm 2602 00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:47,200 Iris? Is that a song they've done? I'm 2603 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,710 Iris? Is that a song they've done? I'm not familiar with their content really. 2604 00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:48,720 not familiar with their content really. 2605 00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:50,549 not familiar with their content really. It's one of his IPs. Yeah, it's an 2606 00:49:50,549 --> 00:49:50,559 It's one of his IPs. Yeah, it's an 2607 00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:53,510 It's one of his IPs. Yeah, it's an original story. Yeah, it's a dystopia 2608 00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:53,520 original story. Yeah, it's a dystopia 2609 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,150 original story. Yeah, it's a dystopia thing. There's a lot of characters, but 2610 00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:56,160 thing. There's a lot of characters, but 2611 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,270 thing. There's a lot of characters, but not a lot of them have designs. So, what 2612 00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:59,280 not a lot of them have designs. So, what 2613 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,030 not a lot of them have designs. So, what a lot of people like myself did was 2614 00:50:01,030 --> 00:50:01,040 a lot of people like myself did was 2615 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,950 a lot of people like myself did was like, let's make a design on this 2616 00:50:02,950 --> 00:50:02,960 like, let's make a design on this 2617 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,790 like, let's make a design on this character based on this very vague 2618 00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:04,800 character based on this very vague 2619 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,950 character based on this very vague description that he had. And people 2620 00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:06,960 description that he had. And people 2621 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,630 description that he had. And people would also make covers of songs, too. 2622 00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:08,640 would also make covers of songs, too. 2623 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,069 would also make covers of songs, too. And he would get high amounts of anxiety 2624 00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:10,079 And he would get high amounts of anxiety 2625 00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:12,549 And he would get high amounts of anxiety over it. And in some cases, he would 2626 00:50:12,549 --> 00:50:12,559 over it. And in some cases, he would 2627 00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:14,630 over it. And in some cases, he would call it the facing. I got caught out for 2628 00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:14,640 call it the facing. I got caught out for 2629 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,790 call it the facing. I got caught out for the way I drew one of his killer robots 2630 00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:16,800 the way I drew one of his killer robots 2631 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,069 the way I drew one of his killer robots because he was like, "Well, now you made 2632 00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:18,079 because he was like, "Well, now you made 2633 00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:19,510 because he was like, "Well, now you made my design look like horshit." Even 2634 00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:19,520 my design look like horshit." Even 2635 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,589 my design look like horshit." Even though I had I heard no one else 2636 00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:21,599 though I had I heard no one else 2637 00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:23,270 though I had I heard no one else complaining about his design or anything 2638 00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:23,280 complaining about his design or anything 2639 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,109 complaining about his design or anything like that. And then on top of that, a 2640 00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:25,119 like that. And then on top of that, a 2641 00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:26,390 like that. And then on top of that, a bunch of other artist started 2642 00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:26,400 bunch of other artist started 2643 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,710 bunch of other artist started apologizing like, "Yeah, we're so sorry. 2644 00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:28,720 apologizing like, "Yeah, we're so sorry. 2645 00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:31,589 apologizing like, "Yeah, we're so sorry. We didn't knowing this stuff upset you 2646 00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:31,599 We didn't knowing this stuff upset you 2647 00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:33,430 We didn't knowing this stuff upset you so much." And you never said anything 2648 00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:33,440 so much." And you never said anything 2649 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,710 so much." And you never said anything until now. and he made it a rule in the 2650 00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:36,720 until now. and he made it a rule in the 2651 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:38,150 until now. and he made it a rule in the server for a while that you couldn't 2652 00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:38,160 server for a while that you couldn't 2653 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:38,910 server for a while that you couldn't post 2654 00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:38,920 post 2655 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,870 post interpretations or you couldn't post 2656 00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:40,880 interpretations or you couldn't post 2657 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,510 interpretations or you couldn't post covers with more than one instrument or 2658 00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:43,520 covers with more than one instrument or 2659 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,670 covers with more than one instrument or more than one vocal track and he just 2660 00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:45,680 more than one vocal track and he just 2661 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,589 more than one vocal track and he just now changed that rule. I heard from 2662 00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:47,599 now changed that rule. I heard from 2663 00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:49,270 now changed that rule. I heard from someone that's still in there that he 2664 00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:49,280 someone that's still in there that he 2665 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,950 someone that's still in there that he just changed the rule back to where it 2666 00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:50,960 just changed the rule back to where it 2667 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,829 just changed the rule back to where it was before so you can do that again. I 2668 00:50:53,829 --> 00:50:53,839 was before so you can do that again. I 2669 00:50:53,839 --> 00:50:55,030 was before so you can do that again. I can't get over that because that's the 2670 00:50:55,030 --> 00:50:55,040 can't get over that because that's the 2671 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,630 can't get over that because that's the stupidest [\h__\h] thing. He should be 2672 00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:56,640 stupidest [\h__\h] thing. He should be 2673 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,990 stupidest [\h__\h] thing. He should be happy that people are making fan art 2674 00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:58,000 happy that people are making fan art 2675 00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,750 happy that people are making fan art because they enjoy the thing. It's like 2676 00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:59,760 because they enjoy the thing. It's like 2677 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,390 because they enjoy the thing. It's like he's punishing his fans. Yeah, even on 2678 00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:02,400 he's punishing his fans. Yeah, even on 2679 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,990 he's punishing his fans. Yeah, even on Twitter, someone was asking about it and 2680 00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:04,000 Twitter, someone was asking about it and 2681 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,270 Twitter, someone was asking about it and he's like, "Well, I'll go forward in 2682 00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:05,280 he's like, "Well, I'll go forward in 2683 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,750 he's like, "Well, I'll go forward in making more character designs. Uh when 2684 00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:07,760 making more character designs. Uh when 2685 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,430 making more character designs. Uh when I'm sure that they won't be tampered 2686 00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:09,440 I'm sure that they won't be tampered 2687 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,190 I'm sure that they won't be tampered with and just a lot of extreme words for 2688 00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:11,200 with and just a lot of extreme words for 2689 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,670 with and just a lot of extreme words for stuff that wasn't extreme being a young 2690 00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:13,680 stuff that wasn't extreme being a young 2691 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,150 stuff that wasn't extreme being a young artist at the time, I was 16 and that 2692 00:51:16,150 --> 00:51:16,160 artist at the time, I was 16 and that 2693 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,470 artist at the time, I was 16 and that was devastating to me." And when I was 2694 00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:18,480 was devastating to me." And when I was 2695 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,589 was devastating to me." And when I was telling him, you know, this really hurt 2696 00:51:19,589 --> 00:51:19,599 telling him, you know, this really hurt 2697 00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:20,790 telling him, you know, this really hurt when you said that, he was like, "Well, 2698 00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:20,800 when you said that, he was like, "Well, 2699 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,710 when you said that, he was like, "Well, don't have a cow. It's not that bad." 2700 00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:22,720 don't have a cow. It's not that bad." 2701 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:24,150 don't have a cow. It's not that bad." Without really acknowledging how I felt 2702 00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:24,160 Without really acknowledging how I felt 2703 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,829 Without really acknowledging how I felt or how any of these other people felt 2704 00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:25,839 or how any of these other people felt 2705 00:51:25,839 --> 00:51:27,349 or how any of these other people felt about that. That's a problem he 2706 00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:27,359 about that. That's a problem he 2707 00:51:27,359 --> 00:51:29,589 about that. That's a problem he generally has. Like when someone comes 2708 00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:29,599 generally has. Like when someone comes 2709 00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:31,710 generally has. Like when someone comes forward to him about how he hurt their 2710 00:51:31,710 --> 00:51:31,720 forward to him about how he hurt their 2711 00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:33,829 forward to him about how he hurt their feelings, it's like, "Yeah, but it's not 2712 00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:33,839 feelings, it's like, "Yeah, but it's not 2713 00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:37,670 feelings, it's like, "Yeah, but it's not that bad." Like, "Bro, you hurt someone. 2714 00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:37,680 that bad." Like, "Bro, you hurt someone. 2715 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,470 that bad." Like, "Bro, you hurt someone. It's not cool, man." Oh, it's so dumb. 2716 00:51:40,470 --> 00:51:40,480 It's not cool, man." Oh, it's so dumb. 2717 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,150 It's not cool, man." Oh, it's so dumb. It's so dumb. I mean, the predator [\h__\h] 2718 00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:42,160 It's so dumb. I mean, the predator [\h__\h] 2719 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,510 It's so dumb. I mean, the predator [\h__\h] and the child porn is probably the worst 2720 00:51:43,510 --> 00:51:43,520 and the child porn is probably the worst 2721 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,750 and the child porn is probably the worst of it. Okay, to recap. So, I was going 2722 00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:45,760 of it. Okay, to recap. So, I was going 2723 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,270 of it. Okay, to recap. So, I was going to say it sounds like it's pretty bad 2724 00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:47,280 to say it sounds like it's pretty bad 2725 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,870 to say it sounds like it's pretty bad between the allowing predators to be in 2726 00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:48,880 between the allowing predators to be in 2727 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,710 between the allowing predators to be in their spaces and not really doing 2728 00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:50,720 their spaces and not really doing 2729 00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:52,390 their spaces and not really doing anything about it or threatening people 2730 00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:52,400 anything about it or threatening people 2731 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,710 anything about it or threatening people who make fan art or Will dating a minor 2732 00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:54,720 who make fan art or Will dating a minor 2733 00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,870 who make fan art or Will dating a minor and Will looking up child. I remember 2734 00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:56,880 and Will looking up child. I remember 2735 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,230 and Will looking up child. I remember seeing that because I thought that was 2736 00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:58,240 seeing that because I thought that was 2737 00:51:58,240 --> 00:51:59,750 seeing that because I thought that was the worst thing Will specifically had 2738 00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:59,760 the worst thing Will specifically had 2739 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,670 the worst thing Will specifically had done. And then Chris just had the 2740 00:52:01,670 --> 00:52:01,680 done. And then Chris just had the 2741 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,589 done. And then Chris just had the behavior of being sexist and racist too 2742 00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:03,599 behavior of being sexist and racist too 2743 00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:05,829 behavior of being sexist and racist too and gross with minors. So what would you 2744 00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:05,839 and gross with minors. So what would you 2745 00:52:05,839 --> 00:52:07,270 and gross with minors. So what would you guys like to gain from coming forward on 2746 00:52:07,270 --> 00:52:07,280 guys like to gain from coming forward on 2747 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,030 guys like to gain from coming forward on a bigger platform and speaking about 2748 00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:09,040 a bigger platform and speaking about 2749 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,829 a bigger platform and speaking about your stories? So my original goal would 2750 00:52:11,829 --> 00:52:11,839 your stories? So my original goal would 2751 00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:14,230 your stories? So my original goal would be like acknowledgements of this stuff 2752 00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:14,240 be like acknowledgements of this stuff 2753 00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,470 be like acknowledgements of this stuff happening, but like I don't think that's 2754 00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:16,480 happening, but like I don't think that's 2755 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,990 happening, but like I don't think that's going to happen like ever. Being 2756 00:52:20,990 --> 00:52:21,000 going to happen like ever. Being 2757 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,910 going to happen like ever. Being realistic, I don't know exactly what I 2758 00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:23,920 realistic, I don't know exactly what I 2759 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,309 realistic, I don't know exactly what I want anymore. Like I just want this 2760 00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:26,319 want anymore. Like I just want this 2761 00:52:26,319 --> 00:52:29,430 want anymore. Like I just want this stuff out there. I guess that's all I 2762 00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:29,440 stuff out there. I guess that's all I 2763 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,349 stuff out there. I guess that's all I can do. What I personally think is Will 2764 00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:31,359 can do. What I personally think is Will 2765 00:52:31,359 --> 00:52:32,630 can do. What I personally think is Will needs to take a break from the internet 2766 00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:32,640 needs to take a break from the internet 2767 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:33,910 needs to take a break from the internet because this sounds really unhealthy 2768 00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:33,920 because this sounds really unhealthy 2769 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,710 because this sounds really unhealthy from a third party perspective. 2770 00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:36,720 from a third party perspective. 2771 00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:39,349 from a third party perspective. I'm just going to sound this is going to 2772 00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:39,359 I'm just going to sound this is going to 2773 00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:40,790 I'm just going to sound this is going to sound really mean, but I don't think 2774 00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:40,800 sound really mean, but I don't think 2775 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,549 sound really mean, but I don't think he's capable of taking a break from the 2776 00:52:42,549 --> 00:52:42,559 he's capable of taking a break from the 2777 00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:44,470 he's capable of taking a break from the internet. I mean, he went on a camping 2778 00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:44,480 internet. I mean, he went on a camping 2779 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,910 internet. I mean, he went on a camping trip with his family and he was on his 2780 00:52:45,910 --> 00:52:45,920 trip with his family and he was on his 2781 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,750 trip with his family and he was on his phone and was in voice calls the entire 2782 00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:47,760 phone and was in voice calls the entire 2783 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,589 phone and was in voice calls the entire time. So even then, when he was supposed 2784 00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:49,599 time. So even then, when he was supposed 2785 00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:51,589 time. So even then, when he was supposed to be out in nature, he wasn't taking a 2786 00:52:51,589 --> 00:52:51,599 to be out in nature, he wasn't taking a 2787 00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:53,670 to be out in nature, he wasn't taking a break. There's multiple times he said he 2788 00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:53,680 break. There's multiple times he said he 2789 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,950 break. There's multiple times he said he leave Twitter and then he never did. I 2790 00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:56,960 leave Twitter and then he never did. I 2791 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,790 leave Twitter and then he never did. I believe someone caught him lurking 2792 00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:58,800 believe someone caught him lurking 2793 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,069 believe someone caught him lurking because he was pretending to be off of 2794 00:53:00,069 --> 00:53:00,079 because he was pretending to be off of 2795 00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:02,069 because he was pretending to be off of Twitter, but then like he retweet 2796 00:53:02,069 --> 00:53:02,079 Twitter, but then like he retweet 2797 00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:03,670 Twitter, but then like he retweet something and then quickly un retweet 2798 00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:03,680 something and then quickly un retweet 2799 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,190 something and then quickly un retweet it. He's on Instagram mostly now and 2800 00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:07,200 it. He's on Instagram mostly now and 2801 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,870 it. He's on Instagram mostly now and even now he's pretending to like be 2802 00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:08,880 even now he's pretending to like be 2803 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,870 even now he's pretending to like be offline on Discord. Something I've 2804 00:53:10,870 --> 00:53:10,880 offline on Discord. Something I've 2805 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,390 offline on Discord. Something I've noticed too is that people who enable 2806 00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:12,400 noticed too is that people who enable 2807 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,470 noticed too is that people who enable him are dependent on him. Like the HR 2808 00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:14,480 him are dependent on him. Like the HR 2809 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,390 him are dependent on him. Like the HR person who's a roommate of his and is 2810 00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:16,400 person who's a roommate of his and is 2811 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,910 person who's a roommate of his and is dependent on the channel's income in 2812 00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:17,920 dependent on the channel's income in 2813 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,829 dependent on the channel's income in order to live. Yeah, exactly. like the 2814 00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:19,839 order to live. Yeah, exactly. like the 2815 00:53:19,839 --> 00:53:21,990 order to live. Yeah, exactly. like the HR person lives with him and doesn't 2816 00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:22,000 HR person lives with him and doesn't 2817 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,230 HR person lives with him and doesn't have a job outside of HR for DA games. I 2818 00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:26,240 have a job outside of HR for DA games. I 2819 00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:28,069 have a job outside of HR for DA games. I think we don't know cuz they're not a 2820 00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:28,079 think we don't know cuz they're not a 2821 00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:29,670 think we don't know cuz they're not a public figure. We don't have any 2822 00:53:29,670 --> 00:53:29,680 public figure. We don't have any 2823 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,309 public figure. We don't have any connection to them anymore, but I think 2824 00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:32,319 connection to them anymore, but I think 2825 00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:34,630 connection to them anymore, but I think the only thing they do in their life is 2826 00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:34,640 the only thing they do in their life is 2827 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,670 the only thing they do in their life is sit in Will's house and send out angry 2828 00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:37,680 sit in Will's house and send out angry 2829 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,990 sit in Will's house and send out angry emails to us. This is what the kids call 2830 00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:40,000 emails to us. This is what the kids call 2831 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,750 emails to us. This is what the kids call an allegation. Something we don't know 2832 00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:41,760 an allegation. Something we don't know 2833 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,750 an allegation. Something we don't know if it's true, but it's based on a theory 2834 00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:43,760 if it's true, but it's based on a theory 2835 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,470 if it's true, but it's based on a theory and evidence. Yeah. She like she she 2836 00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:46,480 and evidence. Yeah. She like she she 2837 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,630 and evidence. Yeah. She like she she used to have a job like as a childare 2838 00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:48,640 used to have a job like as a childare 2839 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,030 used to have a job like as a childare worker but she 2840 00:53:50,030 --> 00:53:50,040 worker but she 2841 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,549 worker but she stopped and then she did like art 2842 00:53:52,549 --> 00:53:52,559 stopped and then she did like art 2843 00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:53,990 stopped and then she did like art commission. Yeah. And then she did like 2844 00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:54,000 commission. Yeah. And then she did like 2845 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,069 commission. Yeah. And then she did like art commissions for a while but then she 2846 00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:56,079 art commissions for a while but then she 2847 00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:57,630 art commissions for a while but then she like [\h__\h] up her 2848 00:53:57,630 --> 00:53:57,640 like [\h__\h] up her 2849 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,950 like [\h__\h] up her wrist. So I don't know what she can do 2850 00:54:00,950 --> 00:54:00,960 wrist. So I don't know what she can do 2851 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,510 wrist. So I don't know what she can do if she has a job. Sounds like a healthy 2852 00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:03,520 if she has a job. Sounds like a healthy 2853 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,750 if she has a job. Sounds like a healthy work environment. So the only time they 2854 00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:05,760 work environment. So the only time they 2855 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,829 work environment. So the only time they acknowledge anything wrong is when I 2856 00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:07,839 acknowledge anything wrong is when I 2857 00:54:07,839 --> 00:54:09,589 acknowledge anything wrong is when I retweeted one of the emails a couple of 2858 00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:09,599 retweeted one of the emails a couple of 2859 00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:11,030 retweeted one of the emails a couple of weeks before this recording and they 2860 00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:11,040 weeks before this recording and they 2861 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,829 weeks before this recording and they were like Chris is taking a break. Chris 2862 00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:13,839 were like Chris is taking a break. Chris 2863 00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:15,910 were like Chris is taking a break. Chris has taken hiatus, which I think means 2864 00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:15,920 has taken hiatus, which I think means 2865 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,270 has taken hiatus, which I think means we're going to wait until this blows 2866 00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:17,280 we're going to wait until this blows 2867 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:18,710 we're going to wait until this blows over because we're not going to show you 2868 00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:18,720 over because we're not going to show you 2869 00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:20,710 over because we're not going to show you any proof that Chris went to any HR 2870 00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:20,720 any proof that Chris went to any HR 2871 00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:22,790 any proof that Chris went to any HR training. I'm going to go out on a limb 2872 00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:22,800 training. I'm going to go out on a limb 2873 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,549 training. I'm going to go out on a limb and allege that he did not go through 2874 00:54:24,549 --> 00:54:24,559 and allege that he did not go through 2875 00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:27,270 and allege that he did not go through any training. Like I said, the HR person 2876 00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:27,280 any training. Like I said, the HR person 2877 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,309 any training. Like I said, the HR person only made HR was only made HR this year. 2878 00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:30,319 only made HR was only made HR this year. 2879 00:54:30,319 --> 00:54:33,109 only made HR was only made HR this year. DA is only for people. Even emailing and 2880 00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:33,119 DA is only for people. Even emailing and 2881 00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:36,430 DA is only for people. Even emailing and doing NDA was was against the ACAS 2882 00:54:36,430 --> 00:54:36,440 doing NDA was was against the ACAS 2883 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,390 doing NDA was was against the ACAS guidelines. So, I don't know what 2884 00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:38,400 guidelines. So, I don't know what 2885 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,910 guidelines. So, I don't know what training he would have done if there was 2886 00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:39,920 training he would have done if there was 2887 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,470 training he would have done if there was any. I think he had I think we had a 2888 00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:42,480 any. I think he had I think we had a 2889 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,750 any. I think he had I think we had a timeline down like a day uh or so after 2890 00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:45,760 timeline down like a day uh or so after 2891 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,190 timeline down like a day uh or so after your tree came out he left Twitter the 2892 00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:47,200 your tree came out he left Twitter the 2893 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,030 your tree came out he left Twitter the day after he was streaming the night 2894 00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:49,040 day after he was streaming the night 2895 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,710 day after he was streaming the night after and a day or two afterwards he was 2896 00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:50,720 after and a day or two afterwards he was 2897 00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:52,870 after and a day or two afterwards he was saying I got trained like at what point 2898 00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:52,880 saying I got trained like at what point 2899 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,790 saying I got trained like at what point during that timeline would he be getting 2900 00:54:55,790 --> 00:54:55,800 during that timeline would he be getting 2901 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,910 during that timeline would he be getting trained? Yeah. And keep in mind for 2902 00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:57,920 trained? Yeah. And keep in mind for 2903 00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,349 trained? Yeah. And keep in mind for those who don't remember, I had the 2904 00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:59,359 those who don't remember, I had the 2905 00:54:59,359 --> 00:55:02,069 those who don't remember, I had the original conversation with HR a year ago 2906 00:55:02,069 --> 00:55:02,079 original conversation with HR a year ago 2907 00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:03,750 original conversation with HR a year ago and I was feeling antsy because I wanted 2908 00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:03,760 and I was feeling antsy because I wanted 2909 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,349 and I was feeling antsy because I wanted to make a video for a while and we were 2910 00:55:05,349 --> 00:55:05,359 to make a video for a while and we were 2911 00:55:05,359 --> 00:55:06,870 to make a video for a while and we were waiting for the right time and then this 2912 00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:06,880 waiting for the right time and then this 2913 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,470 waiting for the right time and then this blew up and I'm like this would have 2914 00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:08,480 blew up and I'm like this would have 2915 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,870 blew up and I'm like this would have been great a year ago. But ideally, it 2916 00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:10,880 been great a year ago. But ideally, it 2917 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,470 been great a year ago. But ideally, it doesn't sound like the team is even safe 2918 00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:12,480 doesn't sound like the team is even safe 2919 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,910 doesn't sound like the team is even safe to make content because of their 2920 00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:13,920 to make content because of their 2921 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,470 to make content because of their influence around others. Like Will 2922 00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:16,480 influence around others. Like Will 2923 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,030 influence around others. Like Will himself dated a 17-year-old when How old 2924 00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:19,040 himself dated a 17-year-old when How old 2925 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,710 himself dated a 17-year-old when How old was Will? 22 to 23. 2926 00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:22,720 was Will? 22 to 23. 2927 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:24,630 was Will? 22 to 23. Great. So, when you date a 17-year-old, 2928 00:55:24,630 --> 00:55:24,640 Great. So, when you date a 17-year-old, 2929 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,309 Great. So, when you date a 17-year-old, regardless of when it happened, you 2930 00:55:26,309 --> 00:55:26,319 regardless of when it happened, you 2931 00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:28,150 regardless of when it happened, you should know better. Like Chris telling 2932 00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:28,160 should know better. Like Chris telling 2933 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,990 should know better. Like Chris telling the story, regardless of when happened, 2934 00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:30,000 the story, regardless of when happened, 2935 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,750 the story, regardless of when happened, he should know better. So, I guess we'll 2936 00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:31,760 he should know better. So, I guess we'll 2937 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,910 he should know better. So, I guess we'll hope for the best. I think at the very 2938 00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:33,920 hope for the best. I think at the very 2939 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,109 hope for the best. I think at the very least, if there's going to be any 2940 00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:35,119 least, if there's going to be any 2941 00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:36,870 least, if there's going to be any changes, they have to show proof and a 2942 00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:36,880 changes, they have to show proof and a 2943 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,309 changes, they have to show proof and a plan or else no one's going to believe 2944 00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:38,319 plan or else no one's going to believe 2945 00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:40,230 plan or else no one's going to believe them at this point. I think a public 2946 00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:40,240 them at this point. I think a public 2947 00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:43,270 them at this point. I think a public apology is probably a good start. Yeah, 2948 00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:43,280 apology is probably a good start. Yeah, 2949 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,109 apology is probably a good start. Yeah, that's that's like that's like the big 2950 00:55:45,109 --> 00:55:45,119 that's that's like that's like the big 2951 00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:45,950 that's that's like that's like the big thing. 2952 00:55:45,950 --> 00:55:45,960 thing. 2953 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,270 thing. Like you would think that nobody would 2954 00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:49,280 Like you would think that nobody would 2955 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,430 Like you would think that nobody would believe what DA are saying, but they do. 2956 00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:53,440 believe what DA are saying, but they do. 2957 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,150 believe what DA are saying, but they do. And it's weird. Like even when you show 2958 00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:56,160 And it's weird. Like even when you show 2959 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,190 And it's weird. Like even when you show them proof, they're like, "No, it's 2960 00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:57,200 them proof, they're like, "No, it's 2961 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,109 them proof, they're like, "No, it's fake. It's fake. You're just haters." 2962 00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:59,119 fake. It's fake. You're just haters." 2963 00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:01,990 fake. It's fake. You're just haters." Like their fan base is very Yeah, 2964 00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:02,000 Like their fan base is very Yeah, 2965 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,309 Like their fan base is very Yeah, they're Yeah, their fan base is like 2966 00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:04,319 they're Yeah, their fan base is like 2967 00:56:04,319 --> 00:56:07,829 they're Yeah, their fan base is like very um they just really want to believe 2968 00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:07,839 very um they just really want to believe 2969 00:56:07,839 --> 00:56:09,270 very um they just really want to believe that they're good people when they're 2970 00:56:09,270 --> 00:56:09,280 that they're good people when they're 2971 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,990 that they're good people when they're not 2972 00:56:10,990 --> 00:56:11,000 not 2973 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,549 not because Lord knows why. Actually, it's 2974 00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:14,559 because Lord knows why. Actually, it's 2975 00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:16,150 because Lord knows why. Actually, it's because he built up a parasocial 2976 00:56:16,150 --> 00:56:16,160 because he built up a parasocial 2977 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,750 because he built up a parasocial relationship with them. True. True. Even 2978 00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:19,760 relationship with them. True. True. Even 2979 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,349 relationship with them. True. True. Even with the lolly thing, when we told 2980 00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:21,359 with the lolly thing, when we told 2981 00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:22,789 with the lolly thing, when we told people about that, they were so like, 2982 00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:22,799 people about that, they were so like, 2983 00:56:22,799 --> 00:56:24,870 people about that, they were so like, "Well, actually, he was using it to test 2984 00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:24,880 "Well, actually, he was using it to test 2985 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,470 "Well, actually, he was using it to test a bot." And I'm like, "Well, why is it 2986 00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:26,480 a bot." And I'm like, "Well, why is it 2987 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,670 a bot." And I'm like, "Well, why is it still there?" And it wasn't even in the 2988 00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:29,680 still there?" And it wasn't even in the 2989 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,829 still there?" And it wasn't even in the same server. Again, the fans have a very 2990 00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:31,839 same server. Again, the fans have a very 2991 00:56:31,839 --> 00:56:34,230 same server. Again, the fans have a very poor social relationship. You have this 2992 00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:34,240 poor social relationship. You have this 2993 00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:36,150 poor social relationship. You have this mature 20some year old telling his 2994 00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:36,160 mature 20some year old telling his 2995 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,910 mature 20some year old telling his telling you all his deepest deepest 2996 00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:37,920 telling you all his deepest deepest 2997 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,390 telling you all his deepest deepest secrets and stuff and all his childhood 2998 00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:40,400 secrets and stuff and all his childhood 2999 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,870 secrets and stuff and all his childhood traumas, and you feel closer to him. And 3000 00:56:42,870 --> 00:56:42,880 traumas, and you feel closer to him. And 3001 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,069 traumas, and you feel closer to him. And on top of that, you have this whole 3002 00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:44,079 on top of that, you have this whole 3003 00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:45,750 on top of that, you have this whole Discord channel dedicated to just giving 3004 00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:45,760 Discord channel dedicated to just giving 3005 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,430 Discord channel dedicated to just giving him support. You're encouraged to look 3006 00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:47,440 him support. You're encouraged to look 3007 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,190 him support. You're encouraged to look at his Discord status and see what state 3008 00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:49,200 at his Discord status and see what state 3009 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,589 at his Discord status and see what state he's in. When I was younger, he'd even 3010 00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:51,599 he's in. When I was younger, he'd even 3011 00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:53,829 he's in. When I was younger, he'd even pull you would even go as far as to like 3012 00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:53,839 pull you would even go as far as to like 3013 00:56:53,839 --> 00:56:56,549 pull you would even go as far as to like delete his Twitter account and like 3014 00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:56,559 delete his Twitter account and like 3015 00:56:56,559 --> 00:56:57,910 delete his Twitter account and like threatening to delete the YouTube 3016 00:56:57,910 --> 00:56:57,920 threatening to delete the YouTube 3017 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,230 threatening to delete the YouTube account because he was feeling bad. And 3018 00:57:00,230 --> 00:57:00,240 account because he was feeling bad. And 3019 00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:01,510 account because he was feeling bad. And when you're put through that over and 3020 00:57:01,510 --> 00:57:01,520 when you're put through that over and 3021 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,270 when you're put through that over and over again, you want to feel close. You 3022 00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:03,280 over again, you want to feel close. You 3023 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:04,549 over again, you want to feel close. You want to feel like this person can't be 3024 00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:04,559 want to feel like this person can't be 3025 00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:07,030 want to feel like this person can't be bad. I did all this for him. I went 3026 00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:07,040 bad. I did all this for him. I went 3027 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,190 bad. I did all this for him. I went through all this for him. I'm I'm just 3028 00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:09,200 through all this for him. I'm I'm just 3029 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,270 through all this for him. I'm I'm just sorry I'm getting really a bit heated 3030 00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:11,280 sorry I'm getting really a bit heated 3031 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,670 sorry I'm getting really a bit heated here because again I went through all of 3032 00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:13,680 here because again I went through all of 3033 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,190 here because again I went through all of that and it's such an emotional draining 3034 00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:15,200 that and it's such an emotional draining 3035 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,789 that and it's such an emotional draining thing to go through. It's like no, you 3036 00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:16,799 thing to go through. It's like no, you 3037 00:57:16,799 --> 00:57:18,230 thing to go through. It's like no, you shouldn't be doing this to 13 and 18 3038 00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:18,240 shouldn't be doing this to 13 and 18 3039 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,750 shouldn't be doing this to 13 and 18 year olds. You shouldn't be telling them 3040 00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:19,760 year olds. You shouldn't be telling them 3041 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:20,950 year olds. You shouldn't be telling them all these things like I'm going to 3042 00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:20,960 all these things like I'm going to 3043 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,789 all these things like I'm going to delete my YouTube channel where you know 3044 00:57:22,789 --> 00:57:22,799 delete my YouTube channel where you know 3045 00:57:22,799 --> 00:57:25,589 delete my YouTube channel where you know when I was bullied I got my head bashed. 3046 00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:25,599 when I was bullied I got my head bashed. 3047 00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:28,549 when I was bullied I got my head bashed. Yeah, exactly. Like the worst example I 3048 00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:28,559 Yeah, exactly. Like the worst example I 3049 00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:31,109 Yeah, exactly. Like the worst example I remember is I think that he was he said 3050 00:57:31,109 --> 00:57:31,119 remember is I think that he was he said 3051 00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:32,710 remember is I think that he was he said in his Discord server that he was going 3052 00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:32,720 in his Discord server that he was going 3053 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,789 in his Discord server that he was going to kill himself because his fans were so 3054 00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:34,799 to kill himself because his fans were so 3055 00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:37,109 to kill himself because his fans were so [\h__\h] annoying. I don't have proof of 3056 00:57:37,109 --> 00:57:37,119 [\h__\h] annoying. I don't have proof of 3057 00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:40,309 [\h__\h] annoying. I don't have proof of this sadly. I remember seeing it. Posted 3058 00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:40,319 this sadly. I remember seeing it. Posted 3059 00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:42,549 this sadly. I remember seeing it. Posted a suicide note on Twitter, right? 3060 00:57:42,549 --> 00:57:42,559 a suicide note on Twitter, right? 3061 00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:44,630 a suicide note on Twitter, right? Several times and then Chloe had to come 3062 00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:44,640 Several times and then Chloe had to come 3063 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,150 Several times and then Chloe had to come out and say, "No, guys, he's fine." And 3064 00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:46,160 out and say, "No, guys, he's fine." And 3065 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,789 out and say, "No, guys, he's fine." And then he just like he never deleted it 3066 00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:48,799 then he just like he never deleted it 3067 00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:50,950 then he just like he never deleted it afterwards and he didn't kill himself. 3068 00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:50,960 afterwards and he didn't kill himself. 3069 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,829 afterwards and he didn't kill himself. He's okay. He posted several times like 3070 00:57:53,829 --> 00:57:53,839 He's okay. He posted several times like 3071 00:57:53,839 --> 00:57:55,990 He's okay. He posted several times like while he was in a hospital as well. 3072 00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:56,000 while he was in a hospital as well. 3073 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,910 while he was in a hospital as well. Yeah, I remember this happening when I 3074 00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:57,920 Yeah, I remember this happening when I 3075 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,829 Yeah, I remember this happening when I just was a fan like when I in like 2018 3076 00:58:01,829 --> 00:58:01,839 just was a fan like when I in like 2018 3077 00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:05,109 just was a fan like when I in like 2018 2019 this was happening a lot and like I 3078 00:58:05,109 --> 00:58:05,119 2019 this was happening a lot and like I 3079 00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:07,349 2019 this was happening a lot and like I felt super close to him when I literally 3080 00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:07,359 felt super close to him when I literally 3081 00:58:07,359 --> 00:58:10,390 felt super close to him when I literally just knew him for like 4 months. It was 3082 00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:10,400 just knew him for like 4 months. It was 3083 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,309 just knew him for like 4 months. It was weird. Like I felt this super close 3084 00:58:12,309 --> 00:58:12,319 weird. Like I felt this super close 3085 00:58:12,319 --> 00:58:14,150 weird. Like I felt this super close connection to him and now I understand 3086 00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:14,160 connection to him and now I understand 3087 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,430 connection to him and now I understand why and it's so [\h__\h] awful. On that 3088 00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:17,440 why and it's so [\h__\h] awful. On that 3089 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,950 why and it's so [\h__\h] awful. On that note, do you guys have any advice for 3090 00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:18,960 note, do you guys have any advice for 3091 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,470 note, do you guys have any advice for people that are kind of in similar shoes 3092 00:58:20,470 --> 00:58:20,480 people that are kind of in similar shoes 3093 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:21,829 people that are kind of in similar shoes that you were when you were finding all 3094 00:58:21,829 --> 00:58:21,839 that you were when you were finding all 3095 00:58:21,839 --> 00:58:25,829 that you were when you were finding all this stuff out? Talk to people. Talk to 3096 00:58:25,829 --> 00:58:25,839 this stuff out? Talk to people. Talk to 3097 00:58:25,839 --> 00:58:27,510 this stuff out? Talk to people. Talk to people. Like, you're not alone going 3098 00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:27,520 people. Like, you're not alone going 3099 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,190 people. Like, you're not alone going through this. Like, please talk to 3100 00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:29,200 through this. Like, please talk to 3101 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,670 through this. Like, please talk to people. Even people that are still fans, 3102 00:58:31,670 --> 00:58:31,680 people. Even people that are still fans, 3103 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,109 people. Even people that are still fans, like, talk to them. And it's okay if you 3104 00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:35,119 like, talk to them. And it's okay if you 3105 00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:37,670 like, talk to them. And it's okay if you don't feel okay going through this 3106 00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:37,680 don't feel okay going through this 3107 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,150 don't feel okay going through this because it's [\h__\h] hard having to 3108 00:58:40,150 --> 00:58:40,160 because it's [\h__\h] hard having to 3109 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,150 because it's [\h__\h] hard having to sever a connection that feels so close 3110 00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:42,160 sever a connection that feels so close 3111 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,349 sever a connection that feels so close and personal, who is someone who turns 3112 00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:45,359 and personal, who is someone who turns 3113 00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:47,349 and personal, who is someone who turns out to be a terrible person. Like, it's 3114 00:58:47,349 --> 00:58:47,359 out to be a terrible person. Like, it's 3115 00:58:47,359 --> 00:58:49,910 out to be a terrible person. Like, it's okay to feel bad. It's okay to feel sad 3116 00:58:49,910 --> 00:58:49,920 okay to feel bad. It's okay to feel sad 3117 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,150 okay to feel bad. It's okay to feel sad for the things you 3118 00:58:51,150 --> 00:58:51,160 for the things you 3119 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,630 for the things you lose. Um, it's okay. like you're going 3120 00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:54,640 lose. Um, it's okay. like you're going 3121 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,349 lose. Um, it's okay. like you're going to be fine. Talk to people. Yeah, I 3122 00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:57,359 to be fine. Talk to people. Yeah, I 3123 00:58:57,359 --> 00:58:59,109 to be fine. Talk to people. Yeah, I agree that wholeheartedly like just talk 3124 00:58:59,109 --> 00:58:59,119 agree that wholeheartedly like just talk 3125 00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:01,030 agree that wholeheartedly like just talk to people. One of the driving factors 3126 00:59:01,030 --> 00:59:01,040 to people. One of the driving factors 3127 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,430 to people. One of the driving factors that led me to become friends with again 3128 00:59:03,430 --> 00:59:03,440 that led me to become friends with again 3129 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,349 that led me to become friends with again is that I talked to someone about 3130 00:59:05,349 --> 00:59:05,359 is that I talked to someone about 3131 00:59:05,359 --> 00:59:07,270 is that I talked to someone about everything that happened and I suggest 3132 00:59:07,270 --> 00:59:07,280 everything that happened and I suggest 3133 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,630 everything that happened and I suggest to just to talk to people who are 3134 00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:08,640 to just to talk to people who are 3135 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,710 to just to talk to people who are outside of the server, go to different 3136 00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:10,720 outside of the server, go to different 3137 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,230 outside of the server, go to different servers and just know that this is 3138 00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:12,240 servers and just know that this is 3139 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,069 servers and just know that this is nothing. This is not how things are 3140 00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:14,079 nothing. This is not how things are 3141 00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:16,309 nothing. This is not how things are supposed to be. Like I talked to a 3142 00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:16,319 supposed to be. Like I talked to a 3143 00:59:16,319 --> 00:59:17,829 supposed to be. Like I talked to a friend who had nothing to do with DA or 3144 00:59:17,829 --> 00:59:17,839 friend who had nothing to do with DA or 3145 00:59:17,839 --> 00:59:19,349 friend who had nothing to do with DA or anything and they were like that's not 3146 00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:19,359 anything and they were like that's not 3147 00:59:19,359 --> 00:59:21,829 anything and they were like that's not normal. That's not something that should 3148 00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:21,839 normal. That's not something that should 3149 00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:24,470 normal. That's not something that should be happening on a regular basis. Yeah, I 3150 00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:24,480 be happening on a regular basis. Yeah, I 3151 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:25,670 be happening on a regular basis. Yeah, I think that's a good note to end on. 3152 00:59:25,670 --> 00:59:25,680 think that's a good note to end on. 3153 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:26,990 think that's a good note to end on. Therapy's good, 3154 00:59:26,990 --> 00:59:27,000 Therapy's good, 3155 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,190 Therapy's good, guys. All right. Well, I guess on that 3156 00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:29,200 guys. All right. Well, I guess on that 3157 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,789 guys. All right. Well, I guess on that note, we can end. Thanks everyone for 3158 00:59:30,789 --> 00:59:30,799 note, we can end. Thanks everyone for 3159 00:59:30,799 --> 00:59:32,549 note, we can end. Thanks everyone for being here and telling your stories. It 3160 00:59:32,549 --> 00:59:32,559 being here and telling your stories. It 3161 00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:35,589 being here and telling your stories. It sounds like a hot mess. It is like it's 3162 00:59:35,589 --> 00:59:35,599 sounds like a hot mess. It is like it's 3163 00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:38,150 sounds like a hot mess. It is like it's so messy right now. Like on the Degan 3164 00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:38,160 so messy right now. Like on the Degan 3165 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,990 so messy right now. Like on the Degan subreddit currently, they're like 3166 00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:40,000 subreddit currently, they're like 3167 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,750 subreddit currently, they're like censoring words. You cannot say the 3168 00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:41,760 censoring words. You cannot say the 3169 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,069 censoring words. You cannot say the number 11 3170 00:59:43,069 --> 00:59:43,079 number 11 3171 00:59:43,079 --> 00:59:45,829 number 11 anymore. [\h__\h] like that. It's stupid. 3172 00:59:45,829 --> 00:59:45,839 anymore. [\h__\h] like that. It's stupid. 3173 00:59:45,839 --> 00:59:47,510 anymore. [\h__\h] like that. It's stupid. And if you try to post anything without 3174 00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:47,520 And if you try to post anything without 3175 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,829 And if you try to post anything without context, uh I was trying to post context 3176 00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:49,839 context, uh I was trying to post context 3177 00:59:49,839 --> 00:59:51,349 context, uh I was trying to post context of what was going on earlier and they 3178 00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:51,359 of what was going on earlier and they 3179 00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:55,030 of what was going on earlier and they just deleted it immediately. Yeah, they 3180 00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:55,040 just deleted it immediately. Yeah, they 3181 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,950 just deleted it immediately. Yeah, they nuke it instantly. Like I got banned 3182 00:59:56,950 --> 00:59:56,960 nuke it instantly. Like I got banned 3183 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,030 nuke it instantly. Like I got banned from the Reddit. As someone who took a 3184 00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:59,040 from the Reddit. As someone who took a 3185 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,549 from the Reddit. As someone who took a media literacy course, this is not how 3186 01:00:00,549 --> 01:00:00,559 media literacy course, this is not how 3187 01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:03,390 media literacy course, this is not how you deal with backlash. You 3188 01:00:03,390 --> 01:00:03,400 you deal with backlash. You 3189 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,510 you deal with backlash. You apologize, but it's kind of hard to 3190 01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:05,520 apologize, but it's kind of hard to 3191 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,190 apologize, but it's kind of hard to recover when you have minors and 3192 01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:07,200 recover when you have minors and 3193 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,870 recover when you have minors and predators in the same space and you 3194 01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:08,880 predators in the same space and you 3195 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,789 predators in the same space and you haven't really done anything about it. 3196 01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:10,799 haven't really done anything about it. 3197 01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:12,710 haven't really done anything about it. Um these are really serious issues that 3198 01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:12,720 Um these are really serious issues that 3199 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,390 Um these are really serious issues that aren't like a oopsie. So, no, they're 3200 01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:16,400 aren't like a oopsie. So, no, they're 3201 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,710 aren't like a oopsie. So, no, they're dealing with with it so badly. Like, 3202 01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:18,720 dealing with with it so badly. Like, 3203 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,349 dealing with with it so badly. Like, it's embarrassing for them. I know. I 3204 01:00:21,349 --> 01:00:21,359 it's embarrassing for them. I know. I 3205 01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:22,870 it's embarrassing for them. I know. I heard through a mutual friend that they 3206 01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:22,880 heard through a mutual friend that they 3207 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,230 heard through a mutual friend that they originally weren't going to say anything 3208 01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:24,240 originally weren't going to say anything 3209 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:25,589 originally weren't going to say anything cuz they didn't see a reason for it. 3210 01:00:25,589 --> 01:00:25,599 cuz they didn't see a reason for it. 3211 01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:26,710 cuz they didn't see a reason for it. They were like, "Oh, there's no reason 3212 01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:26,720 They were like, "Oh, there's no reason 3213 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,470 They were like, "Oh, there's no reason for it. It's going to go away." All 3214 01:00:28,470 --> 01:00:28,480 for it. It's going to go away." All 3215 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,390 for it. It's going to go away." All right. Thanks everyone for listening. 3216 01:00:30,390 --> 01:00:30,400 right. Thanks everyone for listening. 3217 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,309 right. Thanks everyone for listening. Yes. Thank you. So, there's three 3218 01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:32,319 Yes. Thank you. So, there's three 3219 01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:34,470 Yes. Thank you. So, there's three players in this Shakespearean tragedy. 3220 01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:34,480 players in this Shakespearean tragedy. 3221 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,390 players in this Shakespearean tragedy. Chris, a former member of my production 3222 01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:36,400 Chris, a former member of my production 3223 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:37,990 Chris, a former member of my production team who made up this gross story about 3224 01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:38,000 team who made up this gross story about 3225 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,789 team who made up this gross story about me. His first boss, DA Games, a YouTube 3226 01:00:40,789 --> 01:00:40,799 me. His first boss, DA Games, a YouTube 3227 01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:43,510 me. His first boss, DA Games, a YouTube channel run by Will Ryan. and his second 3228 01:00:43,510 --> 01:00:43,520 channel run by Will Ryan. and his second 3229 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,750 channel run by Will Ryan. and his second boss, another YouTuber named Saber 3230 01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:45,760 boss, another YouTuber named Saber 3231 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,390 boss, another YouTuber named Saber Spark. Misque, Will's Nazi racist and 3232 01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:48,400 Spark. Misque, Will's Nazi racist and 3233 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,670 Spark. Misque, Will's Nazi racist and anti-Semitic memes. There's also um 3234 01:00:51,670 --> 01:00:51,680 anti-Semitic memes. There's also um 3235 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,390 anti-Semitic memes. There's also um racist and anti-semitic memes. It never 3236 01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:54,400 racist and anti-semitic memes. It never 3237 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,870 racist and anti-semitic memes. It never ends here. Part three. How DA Games 3238 01:00:56,870 --> 01:00:56,880 ends here. Part three. How DA Games 3239 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,510 ends here. Part three. How DA Games handled the Chris situation badly. Back 3240 01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:59,520 handled the Chris situation badly. Back 3241 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,510 handled the Chris situation badly. Back to the Chris situation. The DA Games 3242 01:01:01,510 --> 01:01:01,520 to the Chris situation. The DA Games 3243 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,030 to the Chris situation. The DA Games team first responded the situation 3244 01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:03,040 team first responded the situation 3245 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,750 team first responded the situation privately in November of 2023, citing 3246 01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:05,760 privately in November of 2023, citing 3247 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,270 privately in November of 2023, citing the issue had been resolved to their own 3248 01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:07,280 the issue had been resolved to their own 3249 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,349 the issue had been resolved to their own satisfaction and that Chris didn't work 3250 01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:09,359 satisfaction and that Chris didn't work 3251 01:01:09,359 --> 01:01:10,950 satisfaction and that Chris didn't work for them at that time, even though 3252 01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:10,960 for them at that time, even though 3253 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,710 for them at that time, even though there's proof that suggests otherwise, 3254 01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:12,720 there's proof that suggests otherwise, 3255 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,549 there's proof that suggests otherwise, and that Wol Ryan was likely in the room 3256 01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:14,559 and that Wol Ryan was likely in the room 3257 01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:16,230 and that Wol Ryan was likely in the room to hear the story recounted at least 3258 01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:16,240 to hear the story recounted at least 3259 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,069 to hear the story recounted at least once. They continued to lie about my 3260 01:01:18,069 --> 01:01:18,079 once. They continued to lie about my 3261 01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:19,990 once. They continued to lie about my legal rights and basically put pressure 3262 01:01:19,990 --> 01:01:20,000 legal rights and basically put pressure 3263 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,990 legal rights and basically put pressure on me to stay quiet about everything. 3264 01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:22,000 on me to stay quiet about everything. 3265 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,910 on me to stay quiet about everything. We'll show you those emails in a second. 3266 01:01:23,910 --> 01:01:23,920 We'll show you those emails in a second. 3267 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,990 We'll show you those emails in a second. At a last ditch attempt, DA Games 3268 01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:26,000 At a last ditch attempt, DA Games 3269 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,910 At a last ditch attempt, DA Games attempted to send me a cease and desist. 3270 01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:27,920 attempted to send me a cease and desist. 3271 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,270 attempted to send me a cease and desist. So, we're going to go through some 3272 01:01:29,270 --> 01:01:29,280 So, we're going to go through some 3273 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,109 So, we're going to go through some highlights of the emails here, but feel 3274 01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:31,119 highlights of the emails here, but feel 3275 01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:32,950 highlights of the emails here, but feel free to pause the video and read them 3276 01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:32,960 free to pause the video and read them 3277 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,270 free to pause the video and read them for any context that you'd like. Hi, 3278 01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:35,280 for any context that you'd like. Hi, 3279 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,030 for any context that you'd like. Hi, Matilda. I was told to contact you 3280 01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:37,040 Matilda. I was told to contact you 3281 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,190 Matilda. I was told to contact you regarding the afficionad Chris case. 3282 01:01:39,190 --> 01:01:39,200 regarding the afficionad Chris case. 3283 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,589 regarding the afficionad Chris case. Many months later. Hi, Matilda and the 3284 01:01:41,589 --> 01:01:41,599 Many months later. Hi, Matilda and the 3285 01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:43,910 Many months later. Hi, Matilda and the DA Games team. It's been 3 months since 3286 01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:43,920 DA Games team. It's been 3 months since 3287 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,069 DA Games team. It's been 3 months since I last reached out and I'm disappointed 3288 01:01:46,069 --> 01:01:46,079 I last reached out and I'm disappointed 3289 01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:48,230 I last reached out and I'm disappointed in the lack of urgency. I'm reaching out 3290 01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:48,240 in the lack of urgency. I'm reaching out 3291 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,990 in the lack of urgency. I'm reaching out one last time to discuss the issue and 3292 01:01:49,990 --> 01:01:50,000 one last time to discuss the issue and 3293 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,030 one last time to discuss the issue and sell her privately. Hi, KP. Thanks for 3294 01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:53,040 sell her privately. Hi, KP. Thanks for 3295 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,950 sell her privately. Hi, KP. Thanks for your patience. Chris informed us that 3296 01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:54,960 your patience. Chris informed us that 3297 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,950 your patience. Chris informed us that the recording between you and him was 3298 01:01:56,950 --> 01:01:56,960 the recording between you and him was 3299 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,670 the recording between you and him was not consensual. Nonetheless, we listened 3300 01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:59,680 not consensual. Nonetheless, we listened 3301 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,270 not consensual. Nonetheless, we listened to the recording ourselves and have 3302 01:02:01,270 --> 01:02:01,280 to the recording ourselves and have 3303 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:02,950 to the recording ourselves and have determined that the two of you had 3304 01:02:02,950 --> 01:02:02,960 determined that the two of you had 3305 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,950 determined that the two of you had already reached a resolution. You will 3306 01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:04,960 already reached a resolution. You will 3307 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,789 already reached a resolution. You will allow the actions of the past to be 3308 01:02:06,789 --> 01:02:06,799 allow the actions of the past to be 3309 01:02:06,799 --> 01:02:09,430 allow the actions of the past to be forgotten and forgiven. It is also our 3310 01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:09,440 forgotten and forgiven. It is also our 3311 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,270 forgotten and forgiven. It is also our understanding that all of this took 3312 01:02:11,270 --> 01:02:11,280 understanding that all of this took 3313 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,510 understanding that all of this took place before Chris was an employee of 3314 01:02:13,510 --> 01:02:13,520 place before Chris was an employee of 3315 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,670 place before Chris was an employee of DA, meaning that he was not under 3316 01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:15,680 DA, meaning that he was not under 3317 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,829 DA, meaning that he was not under contract at the time of the incident. 3318 01:02:17,829 --> 01:02:17,839 contract at the time of the incident. 3319 01:02:17,839 --> 01:02:19,910 contract at the time of the incident. Therefore, as a company, we do not have 3320 01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:19,920 Therefore, as a company, we do not have 3321 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,910 Therefore, as a company, we do not have the jurisdiction to punish him in this 3322 01:02:21,910 --> 01:02:21,920 the jurisdiction to punish him in this 3323 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,990 the jurisdiction to punish him in this situation as he has not breached 3324 01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:24,000 situation as he has not breached 3325 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,069 situation as he has not breached contract. I'm disappointed with the lack 3326 01:02:26,069 --> 01:02:26,079 contract. I'm disappointed with the lack 3327 01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:27,990 contract. I'm disappointed with the lack of action taken regarding these issues 3328 01:02:27,990 --> 01:02:28,000 of action taken regarding these issues 3329 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,829 of action taken regarding these issues and your lack of alarm in terms of how 3330 01:02:29,829 --> 01:02:29,839 and your lack of alarm in terms of how 3331 01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:31,190 and your lack of alarm in terms of how it reflects upon your company's 3332 01:02:31,190 --> 01:02:31,200 it reflects upon your company's 3333 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,190 it reflects upon your company's priorities, values, and internal 3334 01:02:33,190 --> 01:02:33,200 priorities, values, and internal 3335 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,270 priorities, values, and internal culture. Also, regarding the recording 3336 01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:35,280 culture. Also, regarding the recording 3337 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,589 culture. Also, regarding the recording and Chris's statement, fact is whether 3338 01:02:37,589 --> 01:02:37,599 and Chris's statement, fact is whether 3339 01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:39,910 and Chris's statement, fact is whether or not Chris engaged in the activity, he 3340 01:02:39,910 --> 01:02:39,920 or not Chris engaged in the activity, he 3341 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,470 or not Chris engaged in the activity, he openly spoke about doing it allegedly in 3342 01:02:42,470 --> 01:02:42,480 openly spoke about doing it allegedly in 3343 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,109 openly spoke about doing it allegedly in calls involving his co-workers post 3344 01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:45,119 calls involving his co-workers post 3345 01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:46,870 calls involving his co-workers post having his position within the company 3346 01:02:46,870 --> 01:02:46,880 having his position within the company 3347 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,390 having his position within the company and after as late as 2019. This is 3348 01:02:50,390 --> 01:02:50,400 and after as late as 2019. This is 3349 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:51,910 and after as late as 2019. This is highly inappropriate, morally 3350 01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:51,920 highly inappropriate, morally 3351 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,750 highly inappropriate, morally unacceptable language to use when 3352 01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:53,760 unacceptable language to use when 3353 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,990 unacceptable language to use when conducting oneselves around co-workers, 3354 01:02:55,990 --> 01:02:56,000 conducting oneselves around co-workers, 3355 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,670 conducting oneselves around co-workers, much less when it's attempt to convey 3356 01:02:57,670 --> 01:02:57,680 much less when it's attempt to convey 3357 01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,910 much less when it's attempt to convey approval from peers and a superior by 3358 01:02:59,910 --> 01:02:59,920 approval from peers and a superior by 3359 01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:02,390 approval from peers and a superior by presenting himself as a sexual harasser. 3360 01:03:02,390 --> 01:03:02,400 presenting himself as a sexual harasser. 3361 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:03,910 presenting himself as a sexual harasser. If he was bragging about sexual 3362 01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:03,920 If he was bragging about sexual 3363 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,829 If he was bragging about sexual misconduct involving a minor, would that 3364 01:03:05,829 --> 01:03:05,839 misconduct involving a minor, would that 3365 01:03:05,839 --> 01:03:07,589 misconduct involving a minor, would that change your response? Because if the 3366 01:03:07,589 --> 01:03:07,599 change your response? Because if the 3367 01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:09,589 change your response? Because if the answer is yes, you should be taking this 3368 01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:09,599 answer is yes, you should be taking this 3369 01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:11,670 answer is yes, you should be taking this seriously because sexual harassment is 3370 01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:11,680 seriously because sexual harassment is 3371 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,750 seriously because sexual harassment is sexual harassment. By continuing to 3372 01:03:13,750 --> 01:03:13,760 sexual harassment. By continuing to 3373 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,910 sexual harassment. By continuing to employ Chris, you not only condone his 3374 01:03:15,910 --> 01:03:15,920 employ Chris, you not only condone his 3375 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,750 employ Chris, you not only condone his behavior, but actively encourage it 3376 01:03:17,750 --> 01:03:17,760 behavior, but actively encourage it 3377 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,990 behavior, but actively encourage it within your workplace related settings. 3378 01:03:19,990 --> 01:03:20,000 within your workplace related settings. 3379 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,670 within your workplace related settings. At this point, it's a matter of safety 3380 01:03:21,670 --> 01:03:21,680 At this point, it's a matter of safety 3381 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,029 At this point, it's a matter of safety for myself and members of our 3382 01:03:23,029 --> 01:03:23,039 for myself and members of our 3383 01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:25,029 for myself and members of our communities. And me attempting to handle 3384 01:03:25,029 --> 01:03:25,039 communities. And me attempting to handle 3385 01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:27,510 communities. And me attempting to handle this issue privately is a courtesy, one 3386 01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:27,520 this issue privately is a courtesy, one 3387 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,510 this issue privately is a courtesy, one that seemingly is not being honored and 3388 01:03:29,510 --> 01:03:29,520 that seemingly is not being honored and 3389 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,390 that seemingly is not being honored and in fact dismissed. If no satisfactory 3390 01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:32,400 in fact dismissed. If no satisfactory 3391 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,470 in fact dismissed. If no satisfactory result is brought about, I have no 3392 01:03:34,470 --> 01:03:34,480 result is brought about, I have no 3393 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,710 result is brought about, I have no problems going public. We will review 3394 01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:36,720 problems going public. We will review 3395 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,470 problems going public. We will review this case again and decide on 3396 01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:38,480 this case again and decide on 3397 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,789 this case again and decide on appropriate disciplinary action. This 3398 01:03:40,789 --> 01:03:40,799 appropriate disciplinary action. This 3399 01:03:40,799 --> 01:03:42,789 appropriate disciplinary action. This will be handled internally and 3400 01:03:42,789 --> 01:03:42,799 will be handled internally and 3401 01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:44,789 will be handled internally and confidentially. Of course, we would like 3402 01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:44,799 confidentially. Of course, we would like 3403 01:03:44,799 --> 01:03:46,630 confidentially. Of course, we would like to state that we do not represent Chris 3404 01:03:46,630 --> 01:03:46,640 to state that we do not represent Chris 3405 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,510 to state that we do not represent Chris in any legal capacity. DA Games as a 3406 01:03:49,510 --> 01:03:49,520 in any legal capacity. DA Games as a 3407 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,109 in any legal capacity. DA Games as a company does not tolerate threats of 3408 01:03:51,109 --> 01:03:51,119 company does not tolerate threats of 3409 01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:54,069 company does not tolerate threats of defamation or liel. If you go public, we 3410 01:03:54,069 --> 01:03:54,079 defamation or liel. If you go public, we 3411 01:03:54,079 --> 01:03:56,230 defamation or liel. If you go public, we have the right to pursue legal action. 3412 01:03:56,230 --> 01:03:56,240 have the right to pursue legal action. 3413 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:57,750 have the right to pursue legal action. We will share the results of the 3414 01:03:57,750 --> 01:03:57,760 We will share the results of the 3415 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,390 We will share the results of the investigation with KP, but only on the 3416 01:04:00,390 --> 01:04:00,400 investigation with KP, but only on the 3417 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:01,950 investigation with KP, but only on the condition that she signs a 3418 01:04:01,950 --> 01:04:01,960 condition that she signs a 3419 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,470 condition that she signs a confidentiality 3420 01:04:03,470 --> 01:04:03,480 confidentiality 3421 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,230 confidentiality agreement. Part four, how Sabers Spark 3422 01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:06,240 agreement. Part four, how Sabers Spark 3423 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,710 agreement. Part four, how Sabers Spark handled the Chris situation badly. Next 3424 01:04:08,710 --> 01:04:08,720 handled the Chris situation badly. Next 3425 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,870 handled the Chris situation badly. Next is YouTuber Sabers Spark, who primarily 3426 01:04:10,870 --> 01:04:10,880 is YouTuber Sabers Spark, who primarily 3427 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,549 is YouTuber Sabers Spark, who primarily makes animated themed content and 3428 01:04:12,549 --> 01:04:12,559 makes animated themed content and 3429 01:04:12,559 --> 01:04:13,990 makes animated themed content and generally seems not to care about the 3430 01:04:13,990 --> 01:04:14,000 generally seems not to care about the 3431 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,430 generally seems not to care about the situation unless he's listed as an 3432 01:04:15,430 --> 01:04:15,440 situation unless he's listed as an 3433 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,190 situation unless he's listed as an employer of Chris. I originally 3434 01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:17,200 employer of Chris. I originally 3435 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,270 employer of Chris. I originally contacted Saber through his staff. And 3436 01:04:19,270 --> 01:04:19,280 contacted Saber through his staff. And 3437 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:20,870 contacted Saber through his staff. And here are the Discord messages to prove 3438 01:04:20,870 --> 01:04:20,880 here are the Discord messages to prove 3439 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,029 here are the Discord messages to prove that. I hate it here. There were talks 3440 01:04:23,029 --> 01:04:23,039 that. I hate it here. There were talks 3441 01:04:23,039 --> 01:04:24,710 that. I hate it here. There were talks of a hiring change and I assumed Chris 3442 01:04:24,710 --> 01:04:24,720 of a hiring change and I assumed Chris 3443 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,309 of a hiring change and I assumed Chris was terminated from working with Steven 3444 01:04:26,309 --> 01:04:26,319 was terminated from working with Steven 3445 01:04:26,319 --> 01:04:28,390 was terminated from working with Steven due to that. Cool. One less thing to 3446 01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:28,400 due to that. Cool. One less thing to 3447 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,950 due to that. Cool. One less thing to worry about. Then it got worse. Turns 3448 01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:30,960 worry about. Then it got worse. Turns 3449 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,309 worry about. Then it got worse. Turns out nothing 3450 01:04:33,309 --> 01:04:33,319 out nothing 3451 01:04:33,319 --> 01:04:36,390 out nothing happened. Cool. Oh, there's a big 3452 01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:36,400 happened. Cool. Oh, there's a big 3453 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,390 happened. Cool. Oh, there's a big surprise. I tried following up but never 3454 01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:38,400 surprise. I tried following up but never 3455 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,390 surprise. I tried following up but never heard anything. Cut to November of this 3456 01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:40,400 heard anything. Cut to November of this 3457 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,069 heard anything. Cut to November of this year where Steven is mentioned in that 3458 01:04:42,069 --> 01:04:42,079 year where Steven is mentioned in that 3459 01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:44,150 year where Steven is mentioned in that email asking for an NDA to look into the 3460 01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:44,160 email asking for an NDA to look into the 3461 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,829 email asking for an NDA to look into the Chris issue. This eventually escalated 3462 01:04:45,829 --> 01:04:45,839 Chris issue. This eventually escalated 3463 01:04:45,839 --> 01:04:47,750 Chris issue. This eventually escalated into a public spectacle when I shared 3464 01:04:47,750 --> 01:04:47,760 into a public spectacle when I shared 3465 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,230 into a public spectacle when I shared the NDA email on Twitter. One of the 3466 01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:50,240 the NDA email on Twitter. One of the 3467 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:51,990 the NDA email on Twitter. One of the people in that thread tagged Steven 3468 01:04:51,990 --> 01:04:52,000 people in that thread tagged Steven 3469 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,670 people in that thread tagged Steven directly and then Thanks for the 3470 01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:53,680 directly and then Thanks for the 3471 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,270 directly and then Thanks for the support, guys. It's emotionally 3472 01:04:55,270 --> 01:04:55,280 support, guys. It's emotionally 3473 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,950 support, guys. It's emotionally draining, but I feel like being critical 3474 01:04:56,950 --> 01:04:56,960 draining, but I feel like being critical 3475 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,029 draining, but I feel like being critical of online spaces, especially when you 3476 01:04:59,029 --> 01:04:59,039 of online spaces, especially when you 3477 01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:00,870 of online spaces, especially when you try to solve things privately first, is 3478 01:05:00,870 --> 01:05:00,880 try to solve things privately first, is 3479 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,670 try to solve things privately first, is important. Were you able to contact 3480 01:05:03,670 --> 01:05:03,680 important. Were you able to contact 3481 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,589 important. Were you able to contact Saber or anyone that currently works for 3482 01:05:05,589 --> 01:05:05,599 Saber or anyone that currently works for 3483 01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:07,430 Saber or anyone that currently works for him about Chris? I contacted Saber 3484 01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:07,440 him about Chris? I contacted Saber 3485 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,190 him about Chris? I contacted Saber through some friends in common. Never 3486 01:05:09,190 --> 01:05:09,200 through some friends in common. Never 3487 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,430 through some friends in common. Never heard about an official firing, though. 3488 01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:11,440 heard about an official firing, though. 3489 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,750 heard about an official firing, though. I was never contacted by any friend of 3490 01:05:13,750 --> 01:05:13,760 I was never contacted by any friend of 3491 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,230 I was never contacted by any friend of yours, nor did you ever make any attempt 3492 01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:16,240 yours, nor did you ever make any attempt 3493 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,549 yours, nor did you ever make any attempt to reach out to me on your own behalf 3494 01:05:18,549 --> 01:05:18,559 to reach out to me on your own behalf 3495 01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:21,750 to reach out to me on your own behalf via Twitter, email, or anywhere else. 3496 01:05:21,750 --> 01:05:21,760 via Twitter, email, or anywhere else. 3497 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,549 via Twitter, email, or anywhere else. You are omitting so much information 3498 01:05:24,549 --> 01:05:24,559 You are omitting so much information 3499 01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:26,870 You are omitting so much information right now, but I'll provide some here in 3500 01:05:26,870 --> 01:05:26,880 right now, but I'll provide some here in 3501 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,150 right now, but I'll provide some here in a sec under your original post. Dude, we 3502 01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:30,160 a sec under your original post. Dude, we 3503 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,150 a sec under your original post. Dude, we can talk privately. I have screenshots 3504 01:05:32,150 --> 01:05:32,160 can talk privately. I have screenshots 3505 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,510 can talk privately. I have screenshots that I contacted both. And 3506 01:05:35,510 --> 01:05:35,520 that I contacted both. And 3507 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,349 that I contacted both. And are you going to record the call without 3508 01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:37,359 are you going to record the call without 3509 01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:38,710 are you going to record the call without telling me the same way you did to 3510 01:05:38,710 --> 01:05:38,720 telling me the same way you did to 3511 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,510 telling me the same way you did to Chris, too? Talk to me privately. I'm 3512 01:05:41,510 --> 01:05:41,520 Chris, too? Talk to me privately. I'm 3513 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:42,789 Chris, too? Talk to me privately. I'm not doing this back and forth on 3514 01:05:42,789 --> 01:05:42,799 not doing this back and forth on 3515 01:05:42,799 --> 01:05:44,470 not doing this back and forth on Twitter. Then don't at me with your 3516 01:05:44,470 --> 01:05:44,480 Twitter. Then don't at me with your 3517 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,309 Twitter. Then don't at me with your halftruths and admitted information in 3518 01:05:46,309 --> 01:05:46,319 halftruths and admitted information in 3519 01:05:46,319 --> 01:05:48,150 halftruths and admitted information in order to gain sympathy and slander my 3520 01:05:48,150 --> 01:05:48,160 order to gain sympathy and slander my 3521 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,710 order to gain sympathy and slander my name. I'm 100% to debunk every 3522 01:05:50,710 --> 01:05:50,720 name. I'm 100% to debunk every 3523 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,870 name. I'm 100% to debunk every accusation in your video. I have no idea 3524 01:05:52,870 --> 01:05:52,880 accusation in your video. I have no idea 3525 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,950 accusation in your video. I have no idea how you can claim due diligence when you 3526 01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:54,960 how you can claim due diligence when you 3527 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,109 how you can claim due diligence when you never reached out to me. Don't [\h__\h] 3528 01:05:57,109 --> 01:05:57,119 never reached out to me. Don't [\h__\h] 3529 01:05:57,119 --> 01:05:58,870 never reached out to me. Don't [\h__\h] talk to me like that. Don't call me a 3530 01:05:58,870 --> 01:05:58,880 talk to me like that. Don't call me a 3531 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,630 talk to me like that. Don't call me a [\h__\h] liar when I have the screenshots 3532 01:06:00,630 --> 01:06:00,640 [\h__\h] liar when I have the screenshots 3533 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,549 [\h__\h] liar when I have the screenshots to back me up. And if you're aware of 3534 01:06:02,549 --> 01:06:02,559 to back me up. And if you're aware of 3535 01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:04,150 to back me up. And if you're aware of the call, then the information got back 3536 01:06:04,150 --> 01:06:04,160 the call, then the information got back 3537 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,910 the call, then the information got back to you regardless. If there was some 3538 01:06:05,910 --> 01:06:05,920 to you regardless. If there was some 3539 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,069 to you regardless. If there was some decision made, I never heard about it. 3540 01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:08,079 decision made, I never heard about it. 3541 01:06:08,079 --> 01:06:10,230 decision made, I never heard about it. I'm ending this conversation. So, a 3542 01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:10,240 I'm ending this conversation. So, a 3543 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,069 I'm ending this conversation. So, a couple of things to unpack here. Besides 3544 01:06:12,069 --> 01:06:12,079 couple of things to unpack here. Besides 3545 01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:14,390 couple of things to unpack here. Besides me not purposely tagging Stephen, it was 3546 01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:14,400 me not purposely tagging Stephen, it was 3547 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,549 me not purposely tagging Stephen, it was a third party. Regardless, Stephen 3548 01:06:16,549 --> 01:06:16,559 a third party. Regardless, Stephen 3549 01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:18,549 a third party. Regardless, Stephen proceeded to call me a liar publicly. 3550 01:06:18,549 --> 01:06:18,559 proceeded to call me a liar publicly. 3551 01:06:18,559 --> 01:06:20,309 proceeded to call me a liar publicly. You calling me a liar? I ain't calling 3552 01:06:20,309 --> 01:06:20,319 You calling me a liar? I ain't calling 3553 01:06:20,319 --> 01:06:22,150 You calling me a liar? I ain't calling you a truther. Proceeded to tease me 3554 01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:22,160 you a truther. Proceeded to tease me 3555 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,470 you a truther. Proceeded to tease me about doing an unsolicited recording and 3556 01:06:24,470 --> 01:06:24,480 about doing an unsolicited recording and 3557 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,190 about doing an unsolicited recording and to slander him. Slander is spoken. In 3558 01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:27,200 to slander him. Slander is spoken. In 3559 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,829 to slander him. Slander is spoken. In print, it's liable. Some red flags to 3560 01:06:29,829 --> 01:06:29,839 print, it's liable. Some red flags to 3561 01:06:29,839 --> 01:06:32,390 print, it's liable. Some red flags to this response. One, Steven could have 3562 01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:32,400 this response. One, Steven could have 3563 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,150 this response. One, Steven could have calmly asked who I talked to instead of 3564 01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:34,160 calmly asked who I talked to instead of 3565 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,630 calmly asked who I talked to instead of assuming the worse. Two, his anger was 3566 01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:36,640 assuming the worse. Two, his anger was 3567 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,309 assuming the worse. Two, his anger was directed at me and not an employer, 3568 01:06:38,309 --> 01:06:38,319 directed at me and not an employer, 3569 01:06:38,319 --> 01:06:40,710 directed at me and not an employer, Chris himself. Three, Steven is claiming 3570 01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:40,720 Chris himself. Three, Steven is claiming 3571 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,470 Chris himself. Three, Steven is claiming that I never contacted him directly, 3572 01:06:42,470 --> 01:06:42,480 that I never contacted him directly, 3573 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,710 that I never contacted him directly, implying that he had no information 3574 01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:44,720 implying that he had no information 3575 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,789 implying that he had no information about this, but admits to knowing the 3576 01:06:46,789 --> 01:06:46,799 about this, but admits to knowing the 3577 01:06:46,799 --> 01:06:49,750 about this, but admits to knowing the confrontation with Chris was recorded. H 3578 01:06:49,750 --> 01:06:49,760 confrontation with Chris was recorded. H 3579 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,510 confrontation with Chris was recorded. H sound like some [\h__\h] to me. By the 3580 01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:51,520 sound like some [\h__\h] to me. By the 3581 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:52,710 sound like some [\h__\h] to me. By the way, I wasn't going to make fun of 3582 01:06:52,710 --> 01:06:52,720 way, I wasn't going to make fun of 3583 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,470 way, I wasn't going to make fun of Steven so much, but I gave him so many 3584 01:06:54,470 --> 01:06:54,480 Steven so much, but I gave him so many 3585 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,069 Steven so much, but I gave him so many chances to communicate with me, and he 3586 01:06:56,069 --> 01:06:56,079 chances to communicate with me, and he 3587 01:06:56,079 --> 01:06:57,750 chances to communicate with me, and he just didn't do anything. So clearly, he 3588 01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:57,760 just didn't do anything. So clearly, he 3589 01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,670 just didn't do anything. So clearly, he doesn't care what I have to say. It's 3590 01:06:59,670 --> 01:06:59,680 doesn't care what I have to say. It's 3591 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,029 doesn't care what I have to say. It's only an issue when there's potential 3592 01:07:01,029 --> 01:07:01,039 only an issue when there's potential 3593 01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:04,549 only an issue when there's potential backlash. 3594 01:07:04,549 --> 01:07:04,559 3595 01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:06,870 I've come to make an announcement. 3596 01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:06,880 I've come to make an announcement. 3597 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,950 I've come to make an announcement. Shadow the Hedgehog is a [\h__\h] ass 3598 01:07:09,950 --> 01:07:09,960 Shadow the Hedgehog is a [\h__\h] ass 3599 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,349 Shadow the Hedgehog is a [\h__\h] ass [\h__\h] He pissed on my [\h__\h] 3600 01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:13,359 [\h__\h] He pissed on my [\h__\h] 3601 01:07:13,359 --> 01:07:16,710 [\h__\h] He pissed on my [\h__\h] wife. That's right. He said his dick was 3602 01:07:16,710 --> 01:07:16,720 wife. That's right. He said his dick was 3603 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,549 wife. That's right. He said his dick was this big and I said, "That's 3604 01:07:19,549 --> 01:07:19,559 this big and I said, "That's 3605 01:07:19,559 --> 01:07:22,150 this big and I said, "That's disgusting." So, I'm making a call out 3606 01:07:22,150 --> 01:07:22,160 disgusting." So, I'm making a call out 3607 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:23,710 disgusting." So, I'm making a call out post on my 3608 01:07:23,710 --> 01:07:23,720 post on my 3609 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,390 post on my twitter.com. Shadow the Hedgehog, you 3610 01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:26,400 twitter.com. Shadow the Hedgehog, you 3611 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,670 twitter.com. Shadow the Hedgehog, you got a small [\h__\h] dick. It's the size 3612 01:07:29,670 --> 01:07:29,680 got a small [\h__\h] dick. It's the size 3613 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:33,349 got a small [\h__\h] dick. It's the size of this walnut, but way [\h__\h] smaller. 3614 01:07:33,349 --> 01:07:33,359 of this walnut, but way [\h__\h] smaller. 3615 01:07:33,359 --> 01:07:36,789 of this walnut, but way [\h__\h] smaller. And guess what? Here's what my dong 3616 01:07:36,789 --> 01:07:36,799 And guess what? Here's what my dong 3617 01:07:36,799 --> 01:07:40,950 And guess what? Here's what my dong looks like. That's right, baby. All 3618 01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:40,960 looks like. That's right, baby. All 3619 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:45,349 looks like. That's right, baby. All points, no quills, no pillows. Look at 3620 01:07:45,349 --> 01:07:45,359 points, no quills, no pillows. Look at 3621 01:07:45,359 --> 01:07:48,309 points, no quills, no pillows. Look at that. It looks like two balls and a 3622 01:07:48,309 --> 01:07:48,319 that. It looks like two balls and a 3623 01:07:48,319 --> 01:07:52,470 that. It looks like two balls and a bong. He [\h__\h] my wife. Guess what? I'm 3624 01:07:52,470 --> 01:07:52,480 bong. He [\h__\h] my wife. Guess what? I'm 3625 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,029 bong. He [\h__\h] my wife. Guess what? I'm going to [\h__\h] the ass. That's right. 3626 01:07:55,029 --> 01:07:55,039 going to [\h__\h] the ass. That's right. 3627 01:07:55,039 --> 01:07:58,589 going to [\h__\h] the ass. That's right. That's what you get. My super laser 3628 01:07:58,589 --> 01:07:58,599 That's what you get. My super laser 3629 01:07:58,599 --> 01:08:01,270 That's what you get. My super laser piss. Except I'm not going to piss on 3630 01:08:01,270 --> 01:08:01,280 piss. Except I'm not going to piss on 3631 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,710 piss. Except I'm not going to piss on the Earth. I'm going higher. I'm going 3632 01:08:04,710 --> 01:08:04,720 the Earth. I'm going higher. I'm going 3633 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,390 the Earth. I'm going higher. I'm going to piss on the moon. How do you like 3634 01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:08,400 to piss on the moon. How do you like 3635 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,990 to piss on the moon. How do you like that, old bomber? You have 23 hours 3636 01:08:11,990 --> 01:08:12,000 that, old bomber? You have 23 hours 3637 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,950 that, old bomber? You have 23 hours before the piss droplets fall on the 3638 01:08:14,950 --> 01:08:14,960 before the piss droplets fall on the 3639 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,749 before the piss droplets fall on the earth. Now get out of my [\h__\h] sight 3640 01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:17,759 earth. Now get out of my [\h__\h] sight 3641 01:08:17,759 --> 01:08:21,349 earth. Now get out of my [\h__\h] sight before I piss on you, too. So, what I 3642 01:08:21,349 --> 01:08:21,359 before I piss on you, too. So, what I 3643 01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:22,870 before I piss on you, too. So, what I think happened is that Steven was 3644 01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:22,880 think happened is that Steven was 3645 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,950 think happened is that Steven was informed by Pim. Didn't know it came 3646 01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:24,960 informed by Pim. Didn't know it came 3647 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,110 informed by Pim. Didn't know it came from me. discussed it, blew it off, or 3648 01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:27,120 from me. discussed it, blew it off, or 3649 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:28,630 from me. discussed it, blew it off, or decided it was nothing and forgot about 3650 01:08:28,630 --> 01:08:28,640 decided it was nothing and forgot about 3651 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,229 decided it was nothing and forgot about it until he started facing some public 3652 01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:30,239 it until he started facing some public 3653 01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:32,309 it until he started facing some public backlash and proceeded to blame me. 3654 01:08:32,309 --> 01:08:32,319 backlash and proceeded to blame me. 3655 01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:34,070 backlash and proceeded to blame me. Because he was so concerned with direct 3656 01:08:34,070 --> 01:08:34,080 Because he was so concerned with direct 3657 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:35,749 Because he was so concerned with direct communication, I ended up sending him 3658 01:08:35,749 --> 01:08:35,759 communication, I ended up sending him 3659 01:08:35,759 --> 01:08:37,910 communication, I ended up sending him this email detailing who I talked to, 3660 01:08:37,910 --> 01:08:37,920 this email detailing who I talked to, 3661 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,910 this email detailing who I talked to, why this is important, and why this 3662 01:08:39,910 --> 01:08:39,920 why this is important, and why this 3663 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,149 why this is important, and why this isn't a single incident. Good afternoon, 3664 01:08:42,149 --> 01:08:42,159 isn't a single incident. Good afternoon, 3665 01:08:42,159 --> 01:08:43,990 isn't a single incident. Good afternoon, Steven. This email is your requested 3666 01:08:43,990 --> 01:08:44,000 Steven. This email is your requested 3667 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,510 Steven. This email is your requested private communication regarding Chris 3668 01:08:45,510 --> 01:08:45,520 private communication regarding Chris 3669 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,030 private communication regarding Chris and the overall sexual harassment 3670 01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:47,040 and the overall sexual harassment 3671 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:48,870 and the overall sexual harassment situation that he has caused. Our full 3672 01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:48,880 situation that he has caused. Our full 3673 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,470 situation that he has caused. Our full incident report can be found here if 3674 01:08:50,470 --> 01:08:50,480 incident report can be found here if 3675 01:08:50,480 --> 01:08:52,309 incident report can be found here if needed. Since she publicly displayed 3676 01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:52,319 needed. Since she publicly displayed 3677 01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:54,070 needed. Since she publicly displayed confusion at best about my attempting 3678 01:08:54,070 --> 01:08:54,080 confusion at best about my attempting 3679 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,510 confusion at best about my attempting communication with you prior to this 3680 01:08:55,510 --> 01:08:55,520 communication with you prior to this 3681 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,189 communication with you prior to this point, below are screenshots of my 3682 01:08:57,189 --> 01:08:57,199 point, below are screenshots of my 3683 01:08:57,199 --> 01:08:59,990 point, below are screenshots of my conversations with aka the friends/ 3684 01:08:59,990 --> 01:09:00,000 conversations with aka the friends/ 3685 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,309 conversations with aka the friends/ employees I pass Chris's information to. 3686 01:09:02,309 --> 01:09:02,319 employees I pass Chris's information to. 3687 01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:03,990 employees I pass Chris's information to. The conversation with specifically 3688 01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:04,000 The conversation with specifically 3689 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,749 The conversation with specifically mentions a possible staffing change 3690 01:09:05,749 --> 01:09:05,759 mentions a possible staffing change 3691 01:09:05,759 --> 01:09:07,669 mentions a possible staffing change based on Chris's actions. And I honestly 3692 01:09:07,669 --> 01:09:07,679 based on Chris's actions. And I honestly 3693 01:09:07,679 --> 01:09:09,269 based on Chris's actions. And I honestly cannot fathom a situation where there 3694 01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:09,279 cannot fathom a situation where there 3695 01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:10,709 cannot fathom a situation where there would be that drastic of an employee 3696 01:09:10,709 --> 01:09:10,719 would be that drastic of an employee 3697 01:09:10,719 --> 01:09:12,229 would be that drastic of an employee change or discussion without your 3698 01:09:12,229 --> 01:09:12,239 change or discussion without your 3699 01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:13,669 change or discussion without your knowledge. Screenshots can be found 3700 01:09:13,669 --> 01:09:13,679 knowledge. Screenshots can be found 3701 01:09:13,679 --> 01:09:15,269 knowledge. Screenshots can be found here, here, and here. I do not 3702 01:09:15,269 --> 01:09:15,279 here, here, and here. I do not 3703 01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:16,789 here, here, and here. I do not appreciate you calling me a liar 3704 01:09:16,789 --> 01:09:16,799 appreciate you calling me a liar 3705 01:09:16,799 --> 01:09:18,789 appreciate you calling me a liar publicly, and I would like some form of 3706 01:09:18,789 --> 01:09:18,799 publicly, and I would like some form of 3707 01:09:18,799 --> 01:09:21,349 publicly, and I would like some form of public apology. He didn't give me one. 3708 01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:21,359 public apology. He didn't give me one. 3709 01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:22,709 public apology. He didn't give me one. Additionally, your public statement 3710 01:09:22,709 --> 01:09:22,719 Additionally, your public statement 3711 01:09:22,719 --> 01:09:24,070 Additionally, your public statement states that you knew the confrontation 3712 01:09:24,070 --> 01:09:24,080 states that you knew the confrontation 3713 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,229 states that you knew the confrontation between me and Chris was recorded as a 3714 01:09:26,229 --> 01:09:26,239 between me and Chris was recorded as a 3715 01:09:26,239 --> 01:09:28,070 between me and Chris was recorded as a matter of community safety. Combined 3716 01:09:28,070 --> 01:09:28,080 matter of community safety. Combined 3717 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,669 matter of community safety. Combined with your email interactions with the A 3718 01:09:29,669 --> 01:09:29,679 with your email interactions with the A 3719 01:09:29,679 --> 01:09:31,349 with your email interactions with the A Games lead me to believe that unless 3720 01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:31,359 Games lead me to believe that unless 3721 01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:33,189 Games lead me to believe that unless there was some major miscommunication, 3722 01:09:33,189 --> 01:09:33,199 there was some major miscommunication, 3723 01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:34,789 there was some major miscommunication, you were aware of the situation you have 3724 01:09:34,789 --> 01:09:34,799 you were aware of the situation you have 3725 01:09:34,799 --> 01:09:36,470 you were aware of the situation you have chosen in action. You still have the 3726 01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:36,480 chosen in action. You still have the 3727 01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:38,070 chosen in action. You still have the choice to either hold Chris accountable, 3728 01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:38,080 choice to either hold Chris accountable, 3729 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,149 choice to either hold Chris accountable, i.e. firing him with proof, or keep him 3730 01:09:40,149 --> 01:09:40,159 i.e. firing him with proof, or keep him 3731 01:09:40,159 --> 01:09:41,829 i.e. firing him with proof, or keep him on staff. Should you choose the former, 3732 01:09:41,829 --> 01:09:41,839 on staff. Should you choose the former, 3733 01:09:41,839 --> 01:09:43,510 on staff. Should you choose the former, please communicate this to me as soon as 3734 01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:43,520 please communicate this to me as soon as 3735 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,349 please communicate this to me as soon as possible to avoid any miscommunication 3736 01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:45,359 possible to avoid any miscommunication 3737 01:09:45,359 --> 01:09:47,430 possible to avoid any miscommunication in any public statement/information 3738 01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:47,440 in any public statement/information 3739 01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:49,349 in any public statement/information present after. If you believe this is a 3740 01:09:49,349 --> 01:09:49,359 present after. If you believe this is a 3741 01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:51,110 present after. If you believe this is a one-time incident, this document linked 3742 01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:51,120 one-time incident, this document linked 3743 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,709 one-time incident, this document linked below has logged some of Chris's other 3744 01:09:52,709 --> 01:09:52,719 below has logged some of Chris's other 3745 01:09:52,719 --> 01:09:54,310 below has logged some of Chris's other inappropriate behavior, including but 3746 01:09:54,310 --> 01:09:54,320 inappropriate behavior, including but 3747 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,470 inappropriate behavior, including but not limited to making beastiality jokes 3748 01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:56,480 not limited to making beastiality jokes 3749 01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:58,229 not limited to making beastiality jokes to someone he knew as a minor and the 3750 01:09:58,229 --> 01:09:58,239 to someone he knew as a minor and the 3751 01:09:58,239 --> 01:10:00,149 to someone he knew as a minor and the use of the n-word and Nazi imagery with 3752 01:10:00,149 --> 01:10:00,159 use of the n-word and Nazi imagery with 3753 01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:02,470 use of the n-word and Nazi imagery with himself and will of the games. You can 3754 01:10:02,470 --> 01:10:02,480 himself and will of the games. You can 3755 01:10:02,480 --> 01:10:04,709 himself and will of the games. You can find more information on page 429 of 3756 01:10:04,709 --> 01:10:04,719 find more information on page 429 of 3757 01:10:04,719 --> 01:10:06,470 find more information on page 429 of this document. I have been clearance to 3758 01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:06,480 this document. I have been clearance to 3759 01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:07,830 this document. I have been clearance to show unedited screenshots of the 3760 01:10:07,830 --> 01:10:07,840 show unedited screenshots of the 3761 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,830 show unedited screenshots of the beastiality incident if requested. I 3762 01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:09,840 beastiality incident if requested. I 3763 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,110 beastiality incident if requested. I hope that we can clearly communicate 3764 01:10:11,110 --> 01:10:11,120 hope that we can clearly communicate 3765 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:12,790 hope that we can clearly communicate about this going forward. I have no 3766 01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:12,800 about this going forward. I have no 3767 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,550 about this going forward. I have no desire to get into an internet squabble 3768 01:10:14,550 --> 01:10:14,560 desire to get into an internet squabble 3769 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,070 desire to get into an internet squabble with you, so let's please work this out 3770 01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:16,080 with you, so let's please work this out 3771 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:17,990 with you, so let's please work this out like adults. And do you know what 3772 01:10:17,990 --> 01:10:18,000 like adults. And do you know what 3773 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,470 like adults. And do you know what happened? No response to the email, but 3774 01:10:20,470 --> 01:10:20,480 happened? No response to the email, but 3775 01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:22,350 happened? No response to the email, but suddenly the Twitter exchange got 3776 01:10:22,350 --> 01:10:22,360 suddenly the Twitter exchange got 3777 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,669 suddenly the Twitter exchange got deleted. Where did it go? Nowhere to be 3778 01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:25,679 deleted. Where did it go? Nowhere to be 3779 01:10:25,679 --> 01:10:28,229 deleted. Where did it go? Nowhere to be found. No apology, no clarification. 3780 01:10:28,229 --> 01:10:28,239 found. No apology, no clarification. 3781 01:10:28,239 --> 01:10:29,830 found. No apology, no clarification. Just deleted the evidence that he knew 3782 01:10:29,830 --> 01:10:29,840 Just deleted the evidence that he knew 3783 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,510 Just deleted the evidence that he knew about the situation in coverage tracks 3784 01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:31,520 about the situation in coverage tracks 3785 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,110 about the situation in coverage tracks and enabled the weird dude because god 3786 01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:33,120 and enabled the weird dude because god 3787 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,030 and enabled the weird dude because god forbid Steven have to find a new editor 3788 01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:35,040 forbid Steven have to find a new editor 3789 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,790 forbid Steven have to find a new editor or even do the public apology that I 3790 01:10:36,790 --> 01:10:36,800 or even do the public apology that I 3791 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,790 or even do the public apology that I asked him to when he falsely threw me 3792 01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:38,800 asked him to when he falsely threw me 3793 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,189 asked him to when he falsely threw me under the bus. I believe Steven realized 3794 01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:41,199 under the bus. I believe Steven realized 3795 01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:43,030 under the bus. I believe Steven realized I wasn't lying and instead of talking to 3796 01:10:43,030 --> 01:10:43,040 I wasn't lying and instead of talking to 3797 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,030 I wasn't lying and instead of talking to me directly or apologizing to me, he 3798 01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:45,040 me directly or apologizing to me, he 3799 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,590 me directly or apologizing to me, he just deleted the thread. So, if Stephven 3800 01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:47,600 just deleted the thread. So, if Stephven 3801 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,430 just deleted the thread. So, if Stephven wasn't hiding anything or wasn't sus, 3802 01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:49,440 wasn't hiding anything or wasn't sus, 3803 01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:50,870 wasn't hiding anything or wasn't sus, why didn't he just ask me about the 3804 01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:50,880 why didn't he just ask me about the 3805 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,550 why didn't he just ask me about the Chris stuff? He just assumed 3806 01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:52,560 Chris stuff? He just assumed 3807 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,310 Chris stuff? He just assumed automatically that I was lying and 3808 01:10:54,310 --> 01:10:54,320 automatically that I was lying and 3809 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,390 automatically that I was lying and started yelling. Very defensive. Very 3810 01:10:56,390 --> 01:10:56,400 started yelling. Very defensive. Very 3811 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,390 started yelling. Very defensive. Very sus. What exactly was the move here, 3812 01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:58,400 sus. What exactly was the move here, 3813 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,149 sus. What exactly was the move here, Stephen? Do you think just deleting the 3814 01:11:00,149 --> 01:11:00,159 Stephen? Do you think just deleting the 3815 01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:01,350 Stephen? Do you think just deleting the thread, putting your fingers in your 3816 01:11:01,350 --> 01:11:01,360 thread, putting your fingers in your 3817 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,669 thread, putting your fingers in your ears, and going la would make this all 3818 01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:03,679 ears, and going la would make this all 3819 01:11:03,679 --> 01:11:06,070 ears, and going la would make this all go away? More of the story is to fire 3820 01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:06,080 go away? More of the story is to fire 3821 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,750 go away? More of the story is to fire creepy people on your staff, even if 3822 01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:07,760 creepy people on your staff, even if 3823 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,390 creepy people on your staff, even if it's inconvenient to you. Stephen, it is 3824 01:11:10,390 --> 01:11:10,400 it's inconvenient to you. Stephen, it is 3825 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:11,750 it's inconvenient to you. Stephen, it is clear to me that you do not wish to 3826 01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:11,760 clear to me that you do not wish to 3827 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,430 clear to me that you do not wish to correspond with any direct communication 3828 01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:13,440 correspond with any direct communication 3829 01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:15,750 correspond with any direct communication despite you personally requesting so. To 3830 01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:15,760 despite you personally requesting so. To 3831 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,350 despite you personally requesting so. To say I'm disappointed with your behavior 3832 01:11:17,350 --> 01:11:17,360 say I'm disappointed with your behavior 3833 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,030 say I'm disappointed with your behavior would be a severe understatement. You 3834 01:11:19,030 --> 01:11:19,040 would be a severe understatement. You 3835 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,950 would be a severe understatement. You called me a liar publicly without even 3836 01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:20,960 called me a liar publicly without even 3837 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,550 called me a liar publicly without even asking for the truth or further 3838 01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:22,560 asking for the truth or further 3839 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,709 asking for the truth or further clarification. To me, it seems like the 3840 01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:24,719 clarification. To me, it seems like the 3841 01:11:24,719 --> 01:11:25,830 clarification. To me, it seems like the only reason why you wanted to get 3842 01:11:25,830 --> 01:11:25,840 only reason why you wanted to get 3843 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,430 only reason why you wanted to get involved is that your name was attached 3844 01:11:27,430 --> 01:11:27,440 involved is that your name was attached 3845 01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:29,030 involved is that your name was attached and you're more interested in damage 3846 01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:29,040 and you're more interested in damage 3847 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,790 and you're more interested in damage control for your brand than your brand's 3848 01:11:30,790 --> 01:11:30,800 control for your brand than your brand's 3849 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,709 control for your brand than your brand's actual integrity. I feel like we 3850 01:11:32,709 --> 01:11:32,719 actual integrity. I feel like we 3851 01:11:32,719 --> 01:11:33,750 actual integrity. I feel like we wouldn't even be having this 3852 01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:33,760 wouldn't even be having this 3853 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,110 wouldn't even be having this conversation if there was not another 3854 01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:35,120 conversation if there was not another 3855 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,030 conversation if there was not another YouTuber in your space. I hope that you 3856 01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:37,040 YouTuber in your space. I hope that you 3857 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,310 YouTuber in your space. I hope that you could be professional about this going 3858 01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:38,320 could be professional about this going 3859 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,390 could be professional about this going forward, even though frankly you haven't 3860 01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:40,400 forward, even though frankly you haven't 3861 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:41,750 forward, even though frankly you haven't been through this entire nightmare 3862 01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:41,760 been through this entire nightmare 3863 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,830 been through this entire nightmare ordeal. But clearly that is not 3864 01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:43,840 ordeal. But clearly that is not 3865 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,390 ordeal. But clearly that is not possible. Hey Rachel, to start things 3866 01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:46,400 possible. Hey Rachel, to start things 3867 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,030 possible. Hey Rachel, to start things off, I replied to you on Twitter the way 3868 01:11:49,030 --> 01:11:49,040 off, I replied to you on Twitter the way 3869 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,430 off, I replied to you on Twitter the way I did out of frustration due to the 3870 01:11:51,430 --> 01:11:51,440 I did out of frustration due to the 3871 01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:53,750 I did out of frustration due to the misinformation you have about me and how 3872 01:11:53,750 --> 01:11:53,760 misinformation you have about me and how 3873 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,669 misinformation you have about me and how you were talking about me without ever 3874 01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:55,679 you were talking about me without ever 3875 01:11:55,679 --> 01:11:58,229 you were talking about me without ever contacting me directly prior. I'd 3876 01:11:58,229 --> 01:11:58,239 contacting me directly prior. I'd 3877 01:11:58,239 --> 01:12:01,110 contacting me directly prior. I'd imagine you feel the same frustration if 3878 01:12:01,110 --> 01:12:01,120 imagine you feel the same frustration if 3879 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,590 imagine you feel the same frustration if someone had incorrect info about you, 3880 01:12:03,590 --> 01:12:03,600 someone had incorrect info about you, 3881 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,950 someone had incorrect info about you, and probably you do with how some people 3882 01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:06,960 and probably you do with how some people 3883 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,990 and probably you do with how some people went after you in the past with false 3884 01:12:08,990 --> 01:12:09,000 went after you in the past with false 3885 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,189 went after you in the past with false information. I truly don't want to 3886 01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:11,199 information. I truly don't want to 3887 01:12:11,199 --> 01:12:13,270 information. I truly don't want to engage in internet drama that operates 3888 01:12:13,270 --> 01:12:13,280 engage in internet drama that operates 3889 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,189 engage in internet drama that operates off of gossip, but the amount of 3890 01:12:15,189 --> 01:12:15,199 off of gossip, but the amount of 3891 01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:17,189 off of gossip, but the amount of misinformation you have is staggering, 3892 01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:17,199 misinformation you have is staggering, 3893 01:12:17,199 --> 01:12:19,189 misinformation you have is staggering, so I will set the record straight. As 3894 01:12:19,189 --> 01:12:19,199 so I will set the record straight. As 3895 01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:21,990 so I will set the record straight. As far as you and me, I'm dumbfounded. We 3896 01:12:21,990 --> 01:12:22,000 far as you and me, I'm dumbfounded. We 3897 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,149 far as you and me, I'm dumbfounded. We hung out and that was it. I'm not sure 3898 01:12:24,149 --> 01:12:24,159 hung out and that was it. I'm not sure 3899 01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:26,310 hung out and that was it. I'm not sure what you saw in hanging out with me, but 3900 01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:26,320 what you saw in hanging out with me, but 3901 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,950 what you saw in hanging out with me, but we just went our separate ways. All in 3902 01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:28,960 we just went our separate ways. All in 3903 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,350 we just went our separate ways. All in all, I feel blindsided by your emails, 3904 01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:31,360 all, I feel blindsided by your emails, 3905 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,430 all, I feel blindsided by your emails, Rachel. How can you say that you come to 3906 01:12:33,430 --> 01:12:33,440 Rachel. How can you say that you come to 3907 01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:36,310 Rachel. How can you say that you come to me as an impartial individual? As far as 3908 01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:36,320 me as an impartial individual? As far as 3909 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,790 me as an impartial individual? As far as Chris goes, I heard through secondhand 3910 01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:38,800 Chris goes, I heard through secondhand 3911 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,350 Chris goes, I heard through secondhand sources of his stupid joke that Chris 3912 01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:41,360 sources of his stupid joke that Chris 3913 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,510 sources of his stupid joke that Chris made amends with you and that was the 3914 01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:43,520 made amends with you and that was the 3915 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,709 made amends with you and that was the end of it, only for me to get accusatory 3916 01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:46,719 end of it, only for me to get accusatory 3917 01:12:46,719 --> 01:12:49,430 end of it, only for me to get accusatory emails months later. You never reached 3918 01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:49,440 emails months later. You never reached 3919 01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:50,950 emails months later. You never reached out to me officially, so how could I 3920 01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:50,960 out to me officially, so how could I 3921 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,189 out to me officially, so how could I acknowledge anything besides what? 3922 01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:53,199 acknowledge anything besides what? 3923 01:12:53,199 --> 01:12:55,750 acknowledge anything besides what? Finally, I do have a lawyer, and I will 3924 01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:55,760 Finally, I do have a lawyer, and I will 3925 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,590 Finally, I do have a lawyer, and I will gladly bring him into our conversation 3926 01:12:57,590 --> 01:12:57,600 gladly bring him into our conversation 3927 01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,470 gladly bring him into our conversation to clear the air if needed. Now that it 3928 01:13:00,470 --> 01:13:00,480 to clear the air if needed. Now that it 3929 01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:02,470 to clear the air if needed. Now that it has come to this degree of 3930 01:13:02,470 --> 01:13:02,480 has come to this degree of 3931 01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:04,950 has come to this degree of misinformation on your end, I will do 3932 01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:04,960 misinformation on your end, I will do 3933 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,590 misinformation on your end, I will do everything within my power to clear the 3934 01:13:07,590 --> 01:13:07,600 everything within my power to clear the 3935 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,630 everything within my power to clear the record for the truth, and that includes 3936 01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:10,640 record for the truth, and that includes 3937 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,990 record for the truth, and that includes exploring legal avenues if necessary. I 3938 01:13:13,990 --> 01:13:14,000 exploring legal avenues if necessary. I 3939 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,990 exploring legal avenues if necessary. I hope this information helps and 3940 01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:16,000 hope this information helps and 3941 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,030 hope this information helps and convinces you to reconsider your 3942 01:13:18,030 --> 01:13:18,040 convinces you to reconsider your 3943 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:22,149 convinces you to reconsider your position. Regards, Steven. 3944 01:13:22,149 --> 01:13:22,159 position. Regards, Steven. 3945 01:13:22,159 --> 01:13:24,229 position. Regards, Steven. Steven, you've already passed the a lot 3946 01:13:24,229 --> 01:13:24,239 Steven, you've already passed the a lot 3947 01:13:24,239 --> 01:13:25,669 Steven, you've already passed the a lot of time I've given you to deal with the 3948 01:13:25,669 --> 01:13:25,679 of time I've given you to deal with the 3949 01:13:25,679 --> 01:13:27,830 of time I've given you to deal with the situation privately as outlined in my 3950 01:13:27,830 --> 01:13:27,840 situation privately as outlined in my 3951 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,750 situation privately as outlined in my first email, which I feel is ridiculous 3952 01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:29,760 first email, which I feel is ridiculous 3953 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:31,270 first email, which I feel is ridiculous considering you had access to this 3954 01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:31,280 considering you had access to this 3955 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:32,709 considering you had access to this information for more than a year, 3956 01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:32,719 information for more than a year, 3957 01:13:32,719 --> 01:13:35,110 information for more than a year, regardless of where it came from. If 3958 01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:35,120 regardless of where it came from. If 3959 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,390 regardless of where it came from. If you're now going to sit there and 3960 01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:36,400 you're now going to sit there and 3961 01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,470 you're now going to sit there and threaten me with legality after this 3962 01:13:38,470 --> 01:13:38,480 threaten me with legality after this 3963 01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:41,270 threaten me with legality after this many private attempts at communication, 3964 01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:41,280 many private attempts at communication, 3965 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:42,870 many private attempts at communication, I will not be entering any further 3966 01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:42,880 I will not be entering any further 3967 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,310 I will not be entering any further discussion with you after this last 3968 01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:44,320 discussion with you after this last 3969 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:45,830 discussion with you after this last correspondence and cutting contact with 3970 01:13:45,830 --> 01:13:45,840 correspondence and cutting contact with 3971 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,310 correspondence and cutting contact with you at this point. The reality is I'm 3972 01:13:48,310 --> 01:13:48,320 you at this point. The reality is I'm 3973 01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:49,669 you at this point. The reality is I'm incredibly uncomfortable with your 3974 01:13:49,669 --> 01:13:49,679 incredibly uncomfortable with your 3975 01:13:49,679 --> 01:13:51,030 incredibly uncomfortable with your general approach in which your previous 3976 01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:51,040 general approach in which your previous 3977 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:52,790 general approach in which your previous email and how your public correspondence 3978 01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:52,800 email and how your public correspondence 3979 01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,790 email and how your public correspondence has been addressed as well as you in 3980 01:13:54,790 --> 01:13:54,800 has been addressed as well as you in 3981 01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,630 has been addressed as well as you in general. So, I'll keep this as brief as 3982 01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:56,640 general. So, I'll keep this as brief as 3983 01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,950 general. So, I'll keep this as brief as possible. To add to this, this whole I 3984 01:13:58,950 --> 01:13:58,960 possible. To add to this, this whole I 3985 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,189 possible. To add to this, this whole I will fight you for the truth tone. Your 3986 01:14:01,189 --> 01:14:01,199 will fight you for the truth tone. Your 3987 01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:02,709 will fight you for the truth tone. Your whole last email in the Twitter thread 3988 01:14:02,709 --> 01:14:02,719 whole last email in the Twitter thread 3989 01:14:02,719 --> 01:14:04,630 whole last email in the Twitter thread is drenched with undermines the actual 3990 01:14:04,630 --> 01:14:04,640 is drenched with undermines the actual 3991 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,790 is drenched with undermines the actual issues of the conversation. On top of 3992 01:14:06,790 --> 01:14:06,800 issues of the conversation. On top of 3993 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,070 issues of the conversation. On top of assuming I'm going to publish 3994 01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:08,080 assuming I'm going to publish 3995 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,630 assuming I'm going to publish falsifiable information. Is that how you 3996 01:14:10,630 --> 01:14:10,640 falsifiable information. Is that how you 3997 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,149 falsifiable information. Is that how you talk to someone who's treated poorly by 3998 01:14:12,149 --> 01:14:12,159 talk to someone who's treated poorly by 3999 01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:14,390 talk to someone who's treated poorly by a current employee in the past based on 4000 01:14:14,390 --> 01:14:14,400 a current employee in the past based on 4001 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,310 a current employee in the past based on all of your previous conversations? 4002 01:14:16,310 --> 01:14:16,320 all of your previous conversations? 4003 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:17,910 all of your previous conversations? Forgive me if you're not on the top of 4004 01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:17,920 Forgive me if you're not on the top of 4005 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:19,350 Forgive me if you're not on the top of my list of people who treat me with 4006 01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:19,360 my list of people who treat me with 4007 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,669 my list of people who treat me with assumed respect. In regards to your 4008 01:14:21,669 --> 01:14:21,679 assumed respect. In regards to your 4009 01:14:21,679 --> 01:14:23,430 assumed respect. In regards to your response on my Twitter posting, your 4010 01:14:23,430 --> 01:14:23,440 response on my Twitter posting, your 4011 01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:25,189 response on my Twitter posting, your heated response calling me a liar and 4012 01:14:25,189 --> 01:14:25,199 heated response calling me a liar and 4013 01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:27,630 heated response calling me a liar and questioning my character publicly is 4014 01:14:27,630 --> 01:14:27,640 questioning my character publicly is 4015 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,750 questioning my character publicly is unacceptable. How you were particularly 4016 01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:29,760 unacceptable. How you were particularly 4017 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,510 unacceptable. How you were particularly feeling at the time doesn't justify 4018 01:14:31,510 --> 01:14:31,520 feeling at the time doesn't justify 4019 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:32,950 feeling at the time doesn't justify calling people names and treating them 4020 01:14:32,950 --> 01:14:32,960 calling people names and treating them 4021 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,270 calling people names and treating them poorly. As well, you could have DM'd me 4022 01:14:35,270 --> 01:14:35,280 poorly. As well, you could have DM'd me 4023 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,590 poorly. As well, you could have DM'd me as requested several times or asked for 4024 01:14:37,590 --> 01:14:37,600 as requested several times or asked for 4025 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,350 as requested several times or asked for further information before responding in 4026 01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:39,360 further information before responding in 4027 01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,669 further information before responding in such a tone. When all I asked regarding 4028 01:14:41,669 --> 01:14:41,679 such a tone. When all I asked regarding 4029 01:14:41,679 --> 01:14:43,350 such a tone. When all I asked regarding this exchange is for you to apologize 4030 01:14:43,350 --> 01:14:43,360 this exchange is for you to apologize 4031 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,910 this exchange is for you to apologize publicly for something you did publicly, 4032 01:14:45,910 --> 01:14:45,920 publicly for something you did publicly, 4033 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,750 publicly for something you did publicly, you instead doubled down in the last 4034 01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:47,760 you instead doubled down in the last 4035 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,350 you instead doubled down in the last message and tried to justify your 4036 01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:49,360 message and tried to justify your 4037 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,229 message and tried to justify your feelings and only privately at that. 4038 01:14:52,229 --> 01:14:52,239 feelings and only privately at that. 4039 01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:53,830 feelings and only privately at that. This doesn't strike me as someone who's 4040 01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:53,840 This doesn't strike me as someone who's 4041 01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:55,110 This doesn't strike me as someone who's dealing with the situation with the 4042 01:14:55,110 --> 01:14:55,120 dealing with the situation with the 4043 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,110 dealing with the situation with the utmost maturity. But a desperate attempt 4044 01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:57,120 utmost maturity. But a desperate attempt 4045 01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,030 utmost maturity. But a desperate attempt to distract from the actual issues and 4046 01:14:59,030 --> 01:14:59,040 to distract from the actual issues and 4047 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:00,870 to distract from the actual issues and make yourself the victim. The fact that 4048 01:15:00,870 --> 01:15:00,880 make yourself the victim. The fact that 4049 01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,470 make yourself the victim. The fact that you're going about this route again, 4050 01:15:02,470 --> 01:15:02,480 you're going about this route again, 4051 01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:04,790 you're going about this route again, even after I proved I wasn't lying the 4052 01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:04,800 even after I proved I wasn't lying the 4053 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,189 even after I proved I wasn't lying the first time, is [\h__\h] deranged. 4054 01:15:07,189 --> 01:15:07,199 first time, is [\h__\h] deranged. 4055 01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:08,950 first time, is [\h__\h] deranged. regarding your access to the information 4056 01:15:08,950 --> 01:15:08,960 regarding your access to the information 4057 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,550 regarding your access to the information about the incident regarding Chris and 4058 01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:10,560 about the incident regarding Chris and 4059 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,310 about the incident regarding Chris and your insistence that I was the one who 4060 01:15:12,310 --> 01:15:12,320 your insistence that I was the one who 4061 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:13,990 your insistence that I was the one who directly discussed the information about 4062 01:15:13,990 --> 01:15:14,000 directly discussed the information about 4063 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,830 directly discussed the information about Chris instead of your general access to 4064 01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:15,840 Chris instead of your general access to 4065 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:17,990 Chris instead of your general access to said information seems to be misguided. 4066 01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:18,000 said information seems to be misguided. 4067 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,830 said information seems to be misguided. Do I have to tell you directly what to 4068 01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:19,840 Do I have to tell you directly what to 4069 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,350 Do I have to tell you directly what to do with an employee incident of this 4070 01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:21,360 do with an employee incident of this 4071 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,510 do with an employee incident of this scale for anything to happen? I shared 4072 01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:23,520 scale for anything to happen? I shared 4073 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,669 scale for anything to happen? I shared the confirmation I had from both and 4074 01:15:25,669 --> 01:15:25,679 the confirmation I had from both and 4075 01:15:25,679 --> 01:15:27,590 the confirmation I had from both and that you had said information which came 4076 01:15:27,590 --> 01:15:27,600 that you had said information which came 4077 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,750 that you had said information which came off as indifference based on what I felt 4078 01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:29,760 off as indifference based on what I felt 4079 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,510 off as indifference based on what I felt as well as your correspondence with DA 4080 01:15:31,510 --> 01:15:31,520 as well as your correspondence with DA 4081 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,510 as well as your correspondence with DA games alluding to such as well as there 4082 01:15:33,510 --> 01:15:33,520 games alluding to such as well as there 4083 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,750 games alluding to such as well as there being a public safety report available 4084 01:15:35,750 --> 01:15:35,760 being a public safety report available 4085 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,070 being a public safety report available with public contact information present 4086 01:15:38,070 --> 01:15:38,080 with public contact information present 4087 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,709 with public contact information present for over a year regarding the situation. 4088 01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:40,719 for over a year regarding the situation. 4089 01:15:40,719 --> 01:15:41,910 for over a year regarding the situation. So I don't understand how it's 4090 01:15:41,910 --> 01:15:41,920 So I don't understand how it's 4091 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,270 So I don't understand how it's particularly relevant how you learned 4092 01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:43,280 particularly relevant how you learned 4093 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:44,709 particularly relevant how you learned your employee sexually harassed someone 4094 01:15:44,709 --> 01:15:44,719 your employee sexually harassed someone 4095 01:15:44,719 --> 01:15:46,149 your employee sexually harassed someone in the past. It just matters that it 4096 01:15:46,149 --> 01:15:46,159 in the past. It just matters that it 4097 01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:47,669 in the past. It just matters that it happened. Even assuming you didn't know 4098 01:15:47,669 --> 01:15:47,679 happened. Even assuming you didn't know 4099 01:15:47,679 --> 01:15:49,510 happened. Even assuming you didn't know about Chris's actions up to the Twitter 4100 01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:49,520 about Chris's actions up to the Twitter 4101 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,669 about Chris's actions up to the Twitter exchange, I still emailed you directly 4102 01:15:51,669 --> 01:15:51,679 exchange, I still emailed you directly 4103 01:15:51,679 --> 01:15:53,110 exchange, I still emailed you directly to discuss it before it reached this 4104 01:15:53,110 --> 01:15:53,120 to discuss it before it reached this 4105 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:54,870 to discuss it before it reached this point, and you seem to ignore that email 4106 01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:54,880 point, and you seem to ignore that email 4107 01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,950 point, and you seem to ignore that email and only responded to a second after my 4108 01:15:56,950 --> 01:15:56,960 and only responded to a second after my 4109 01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,510 and only responded to a second after my frustration became clearer. To be frank, 4110 01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:59,520 frustration became clearer. To be frank, 4111 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,030 frustration became clearer. To be frank, it doesn't matter how the perpetrator 4112 01:16:01,030 --> 01:16:01,040 it doesn't matter how the perpetrator 4113 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:02,550 it doesn't matter how the perpetrator feels how the resolution went. But the 4114 01:16:02,550 --> 01:16:02,560 feels how the resolution went. But the 4115 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:03,750 feels how the resolution went. But the fact that it happened in the first place 4116 01:16:03,750 --> 01:16:03,760 fact that it happened in the first place 4117 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,709 fact that it happened in the first place is unacceptable. Chris is very obviously 4118 01:16:06,709 --> 01:16:06,719 is unacceptable. Chris is very obviously 4119 01:16:06,719 --> 01:16:08,149 is unacceptable. Chris is very obviously going to tell you whatever you need to 4120 01:16:08,149 --> 01:16:08,159 going to tell you whatever you need to 4121 01:16:08,159 --> 01:16:09,990 going to tell you whatever you need to hear to keep his job. It's all right, 4122 01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:10,000 hear to keep his job. It's all right, 4123 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,590 hear to keep his job. It's all right, guys. The criminal said the crime 4124 01:16:11,590 --> 01:16:11,600 guys. The criminal said the crime 4125 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,149 guys. The criminal said the crime actually wasn't so bad after all. Hell, 4126 01:16:14,149 --> 01:16:14,159 actually wasn't so bad after all. Hell, 4127 01:16:14,159 --> 01:16:15,910 actually wasn't so bad after all. Hell, it doesn't even matter how I feel about 4128 01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:15,920 it doesn't even matter how I feel about 4129 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,070 it doesn't even matter how I feel about it. Still, if you were so concerned with 4130 01:16:18,070 --> 01:16:18,080 it. Still, if you were so concerned with 4131 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:19,750 it. Still, if you were so concerned with my personal opinion on the matter to the 4132 01:16:19,750 --> 01:16:19,760 my personal opinion on the matter to the 4133 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,110 my personal opinion on the matter to the point whether it would directly dictate 4134 01:16:21,110 --> 01:16:21,120 point whether it would directly dictate 4135 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:22,709 point whether it would directly dictate your decision to keep Chris on staff or 4136 01:16:22,709 --> 01:16:22,719 your decision to keep Chris on staff or 4137 01:16:22,719 --> 01:16:24,709 your decision to keep Chris on staff or not, I do not for the life of me 4138 01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:24,719 not, I do not for the life of me 4139 01:16:24,719 --> 01:16:26,470 not, I do not for the life of me understand why you didn't reach out to 4140 01:16:26,470 --> 01:16:26,480 understand why you didn't reach out to 4141 01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:28,390 understand why you didn't reach out to me directly or indirectly through our 4142 01:16:28,390 --> 01:16:28,400 me directly or indirectly through our 4143 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,470 me directly or indirectly through our friends. Great job updating me on the 4144 01:16:30,470 --> 01:16:30,480 friends. Great job updating me on the 4145 01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:32,310 friends. Great job updating me on the current status of Chris's employment 4146 01:16:32,310 --> 01:16:32,320 current status of Chris's employment 4147 01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,790 current status of Chris's employment even now. By the way, good job. 10 out 4148 01:16:34,790 --> 01:16:34,800 even now. By the way, good job. 10 out 4149 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,750 even now. By the way, good job. 10 out of 10. Regardless, this isn't a joke and 4150 01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:37,760 of 10. Regardless, this isn't a joke and 4151 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,270 of 10. Regardless, this isn't a joke and your insistence as such is the 4152 01:16:39,270 --> 01:16:39,280 your insistence as such is the 4153 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:40,630 your insistence as such is the underlying problem of this whole 4154 01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:40,640 underlying problem of this whole 4155 01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,630 underlying problem of this whole situation. How is it a [\h__\h] joke to 4156 01:16:42,630 --> 01:16:42,640 situation. How is it a [\h__\h] joke to 4157 01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,310 situation. How is it a [\h__\h] joke to say you ejaculated on your boss's 4158 01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:44,320 say you ejaculated on your boss's 4159 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,229 say you ejaculated on your boss's clothing and say that to other men 4160 01:16:46,229 --> 01:16:46,239 clothing and say that to other men 4161 01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:48,870 clothing and say that to other men multiple times? It cannot and should not 4162 01:16:48,870 --> 01:16:48,880 multiple times? It cannot and should not 4163 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,110 multiple times? It cannot and should not be belittled as just drama. Why would I 4164 01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:51,120 be belittled as just drama. Why would I 4165 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:52,149 be belittled as just drama. Why would I have gone through the trouble of 4166 01:16:52,149 --> 01:16:52,159 have gone through the trouble of 4167 01:16:52,159 --> 01:16:53,990 have gone through the trouble of corresponding with DA Games or having a 4168 01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:54,000 corresponding with DA Games or having a 4169 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,669 corresponding with DA Games or having a safety report be written if I just 4170 01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:55,679 safety report be written if I just 4171 01:16:55,679 --> 01:16:58,310 safety report be written if I just thought it was just a joke? I was and am 4172 01:16:58,310 --> 01:16:58,320 thought it was just a joke? I was and am 4173 01:16:58,320 --> 01:16:59,669 thought it was just a joke? I was and am worried about the children Chris and the 4174 01:16:59,669 --> 01:16:59,679 worried about the children Chris and the 4175 01:16:59,679 --> 01:17:01,270 worried about the children Chris and the greater DA games community still have 4176 01:17:01,270 --> 01:17:01,280 greater DA games community still have 4177 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,430 greater DA games community still have access to. Even if I had forgiven Chris 4178 01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:03,440 access to. Even if I had forgiven Chris 4179 01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:04,630 access to. Even if I had forgiven Chris for some reason, it wouldn't be 4180 01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:04,640 for some reason, it wouldn't be 4181 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,870 for some reason, it wouldn't be relevant. Even still, you seem to show 4182 01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:06,880 relevant. Even still, you seem to show 4183 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:08,390 relevant. Even still, you seem to show anger that I got at Chris's confession 4184 01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:08,400 anger that I got at Chris's confession 4185 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,630 anger that I got at Chris's confession on record in comparison, you know what 4186 01:17:10,630 --> 01:17:10,640 on record in comparison, you know what 4187 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,070 on record in comparison, you know what he actually confessed to with your 4188 01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:12,080 he actually confessed to with your 4189 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:13,510 he actually confessed to with your comment stating, "Are you going to 4190 01:17:13,510 --> 01:17:13,520 comment stating, "Are you going to 4191 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,270 comment stating, "Are you going to record the call without telling me the 4192 01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:15,280 record the call without telling me the 4193 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,630 record the call without telling me the same way you did Chris?" To be clear, he 4194 01:17:18,630 --> 01:17:18,640 same way you did Chris?" To be clear, he 4195 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,350 same way you did Chris?" To be clear, he is not the victim. Full stop. Neither 4196 01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:21,360 is not the victim. Full stop. Neither 4197 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,030 is not the victim. Full stop. Neither are you for that matter, Mr. Truth 4198 01:17:23,030 --> 01:17:23,040 are you for that matter, Mr. Truth 4199 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,270 are you for that matter, Mr. Truth Seeker. publicly throwing the actual 4200 01:17:25,270 --> 01:17:25,280 Seeker. publicly throwing the actual 4201 01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:26,870 Seeker. publicly throwing the actual recipient under the bus and siding with 4202 01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:26,880 recipient under the bus and siding with 4203 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,030 recipient under the bus and siding with the sexual harasser just because he did 4204 01:17:29,030 --> 01:17:29,040 the sexual harasser just because he did 4205 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,550 the sexual harasser just because he did not know he was going to be on record as 4206 01:17:30,550 --> 01:17:30,560 not know he was going to be on record as 4207 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,709 not know he was going to be on record as a safety concern on top of being 4208 01:17:32,709 --> 01:17:32,719 a safety concern on top of being 4209 01:17:32,719 --> 01:17:34,630 a safety concern on top of being incorrect about your information is one 4210 01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:34,640 incorrect about your information is one 4211 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,149 incorrect about your information is one of the most idiotic parts of this whole 4212 01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:36,159 of the most idiotic parts of this whole 4213 01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:38,310 of the most idiotic parts of this whole ordeal. I felt it was very obvious that 4214 01:17:38,310 --> 01:17:38,320 ordeal. I felt it was very obvious that 4215 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:39,990 ordeal. I felt it was very obvious that the intention was a recording for the 4216 01:17:39,990 --> 01:17:40,000 the intention was a recording for the 4217 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,910 the intention was a recording for the public record and a possible angle 4218 01:17:41,910 --> 01:17:41,920 public record and a possible angle 4219 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,669 public record and a possible angle interpretation of him being blindsided 4220 01:17:43,669 --> 01:17:43,679 interpretation of him being blindsided 4221 01:17:43,679 --> 01:17:45,669 interpretation of him being blindsided by a bad joke turned public because I 4222 01:17:45,669 --> 01:17:45,679 by a bad joke turned public because I 4223 01:17:45,679 --> 01:17:47,590 by a bad joke turned public because I want to be a [\h__\h] and cause problems is 4224 01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:47,600 want to be a [\h__\h] and cause problems is 4225 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,669 want to be a [\h__\h] and cause problems is just insulting and respectful on so many 4226 01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:49,679 just insulting and respectful on so many 4227 01:17:49,679 --> 01:17:51,750 just insulting and respectful on so many levels. or how you put it, publicly 4228 01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:51,760 levels. or how you put it, publicly 4229 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,669 levels. or how you put it, publicly discussing halftruths to gain sympathy 4230 01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:53,679 discussing halftruths to gain sympathy 4231 01:17:53,679 --> 01:17:55,990 discussing halftruths to gain sympathy and slander your name. Spoiler alert, 4232 01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:56,000 and slander your name. Spoiler alert, 4233 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,070 and slander your name. Spoiler alert, this isn't about you. Additionally, the 4234 01:17:58,070 --> 01:17:58,080 this isn't about you. Additionally, the 4235 01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,350 this isn't about you. Additionally, the fact that I went out of my way to 4236 01:17:59,350 --> 01:17:59,360 fact that I went out of my way to 4237 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,189 fact that I went out of my way to privately talk to you directly after 4238 01:18:01,189 --> 01:18:01,199 privately talk to you directly after 4239 01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:02,950 privately talk to you directly after several attempts to seek resolution with 4240 01:18:02,950 --> 01:18:02,960 several attempts to seek resolution with 4241 01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,630 several attempts to seek resolution with the staff and wanted to ask on the 4242 01:18:04,630 --> 01:18:04,640 the staff and wanted to ask on the 4243 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,070 the staff and wanted to ask on the Twitter thread and still did not receive 4244 01:18:06,070 --> 01:18:06,080 Twitter thread and still did not receive 4245 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,070 Twitter thread and still did not receive a response until sending a second email 4246 01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:08,080 a response until sending a second email 4247 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:09,750 a response until sending a second email outlining my frustration is just 4248 01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:09,760 outlining my frustration is just 4249 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,750 outlining my frustration is just ridiculous. I then even provided 4250 01:18:11,750 --> 01:18:11,760 ridiculous. I then even provided 4251 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,830 ridiculous. I then even provided additional proof of racism and Nazi 4252 01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:13,840 additional proof of racism and Nazi 4253 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,669 additional proof of racism and Nazi imagery that Chris and Will displayed. 4254 01:18:15,669 --> 01:18:15,679 imagery that Chris and Will displayed. 4255 01:18:15,679 --> 01:18:17,310 imagery that Chris and Will displayed. There are even incidents of 4256 01:18:17,310 --> 01:18:17,320 There are even incidents of 4257 01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,830 There are even incidents of lollycon/child pornography and sharing 4258 01:18:19,830 --> 01:18:19,840 lollycon/child pornography and sharing 4259 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,630 lollycon/child pornography and sharing that material with minors allegedly 4260 01:18:22,630 --> 01:18:22,640 that material with minors allegedly 4261 01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,950 that material with minors allegedly accidentally on the documentary linked 4262 01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:24,960 accidentally on the documentary linked 4263 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,310 accidentally on the documentary linked as well as Will dating a minor in 2015. 4264 01:18:28,310 --> 01:18:28,320 as well as Will dating a minor in 2015. 4265 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,070 as well as Will dating a minor in 2015. If we only knew what Savior Spark 4266 01:18:30,070 --> 01:18:30,080 If we only knew what Savior Spark 4267 01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,270 If we only knew what Savior Spark thought about Lollcon. Oh wait, as his 4268 01:18:33,270 --> 01:18:33,280 thought about Lollcon. Oh wait, as his 4269 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,990 thought about Lollcon. Oh wait, as his following grew, Cal became very publicly 4270 01:18:35,990 --> 01:18:36,000 following grew, Cal became very publicly 4271 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,229 following grew, Cal became very publicly outspoken with his dislike of lollycon 4272 01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:38,239 outspoken with his dislike of lollycon 4273 01:18:38,239 --> 01:18:41,030 outspoken with his dislike of lollycon and similar taboo art styles. For those 4274 01:18:41,030 --> 01:18:41,040 and similar taboo art styles. For those 4275 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,550 and similar taboo art styles. For those who are not familiar with them, let's 4276 01:18:42,550 --> 01:18:42,560 who are not familiar with them, let's 4277 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,830 who are not familiar with them, let's just say it's a 4278 01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:45,840 just say it's a 4279 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,350 just say it's a This additional document has been 4280 01:18:47,350 --> 01:18:47,360 This additional document has been 4281 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,070 This additional document has been publicly available for over 2 years. The 4282 01:18:50,070 --> 01:18:50,080 publicly available for over 2 years. The 4283 01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,070 publicly available for over 2 years. The DA Games community server has had 4284 01:18:52,070 --> 01:18:52,080 DA Games community server has had 4285 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,149 DA Games community server has had pedophiles that were quietly kicked out 4286 01:18:54,149 --> 01:18:54,159 pedophiles that were quietly kicked out 4287 01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:56,070 pedophiles that were quietly kicked out if slash when discovered instead of 4288 01:18:56,070 --> 01:18:56,080 if slash when discovered instead of 4289 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,149 if slash when discovered instead of publicly acknowledged. One has a 4290 01:18:58,149 --> 01:18:58,159 publicly acknowledged. One has a 4291 01:18:58,159 --> 01:19:00,149 publicly acknowledged. One has a [\h__\h] mugsh shot on the 4292 01:19:00,149 --> 01:19:00,159 [\h__\h] mugsh shot on the 4293 01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:01,910 [\h__\h] mugsh shot on the document. Since this all seems to have 4294 01:19:01,910 --> 01:19:01,920 document. Since this all seems to have 4295 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,830 document. Since this all seems to have got ignored until now, on top of the 4296 01:19:03,830 --> 01:19:03,840 got ignored until now, on top of the 4297 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,350 got ignored until now, on top of the safety report of the incident being 4298 01:19:05,350 --> 01:19:05,360 safety report of the incident being 4299 01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,270 safety report of the incident being publicly available for over a year, 4300 01:19:07,270 --> 01:19:07,280 publicly available for over a year, 4301 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,270 publicly available for over a year, solidifies to me my original assumption 4302 01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:09,280 solidifies to me my original assumption 4303 01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,030 solidifies to me my original assumption that you do only care when you have 4304 01:19:11,030 --> 01:19:11,040 that you do only care when you have 4305 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,110 that you do only care when you have consequences for your lack of action. 4306 01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:13,120 consequences for your lack of action. 4307 01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:14,709 consequences for your lack of action. God forbid someone is a creep on my 4308 01:19:14,709 --> 01:19:14,719 God forbid someone is a creep on my 4309 01:19:14,719 --> 01:19:16,470 God forbid someone is a creep on my staff. Just don't tell the public he 4310 01:19:16,470 --> 01:19:16,480 staff. Just don't tell the public he 4311 01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:18,790 staff. Just don't tell the public he works for me. Does it not seem like 4312 01:19:18,790 --> 01:19:18,800 works for me. Does it not seem like 4313 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,630 works for me. Does it not seem like common sense to fire someone who talks 4314 01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:20,640 common sense to fire someone who talks 4315 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,350 common sense to fire someone who talks this way about others, especially women, 4316 01:19:23,350 --> 01:19:23,360 this way about others, especially women, 4317 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,430 this way about others, especially women, regardless of when it happened? In the 4318 01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:25,440 regardless of when it happened? In the 4319 01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:27,110 regardless of when it happened? In the interest of openness, though, I am open 4320 01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:27,120 interest of openness, though, I am open 4321 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,790 interest of openness, though, I am open to do an on the record three-way 4322 01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:28,800 to do an on the record three-way 4323 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,430 to do an on the record three-way conversation between you and myself to 4324 01:19:31,430 --> 01:19:31,440 conversation between you and myself to 4325 01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:32,950 conversation between you and myself to get to the truth of the matter at a 4326 01:19:32,950 --> 01:19:32,960 get to the truth of the matter at a 4327 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,870 get to the truth of the matter at a later time, but that will be at your 4328 01:19:34,870 --> 01:19:34,880 later time, but that will be at your 4329 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,550 later time, but that will be at your discretion as his boss and at his 4330 01:19:36,550 --> 01:19:36,560 discretion as his boss and at his 4331 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,709 discretion as his boss and at his comfort level. as I want to honor 4332 01:19:38,709 --> 01:19:38,719 comfort level. as I want to honor 4333 01:19:38,719 --> 01:19:40,310 comfort level. as I want to honor request to not be involved anymore and 4334 01:19:40,310 --> 01:19:40,320 request to not be involved anymore and 4335 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:41,910 request to not be involved anymore and not emotionally distress him. But 4336 01:19:41,910 --> 01:19:41,920 not emotionally distress him. But 4337 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:43,430 not emotionally distress him. But bluntly, I will not tolerate the 4338 01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:43,440 bluntly, I will not tolerate the 4339 01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:44,470 bluntly, I will not tolerate the consistent implications of 4340 01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:44,480 consistent implications of 4341 01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:47,030 consistent implications of untruthfulness until this happens. Can 4342 01:19:47,030 --> 01:19:47,040 untruthfulness until this happens. Can 4343 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:48,470 untruthfulness until this happens. Can reach out in the future if he's 4344 01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:48,480 reach out in the future if he's 4345 01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:49,750 reach out in the future if he's interested and comfortable about a 4346 01:19:49,750 --> 01:19:49,760 interested and comfortable about a 4347 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,390 interested and comfortable about a possible conversation. Lastly, as I 4348 01:19:52,390 --> 01:19:52,400 possible conversation. Lastly, as I 4349 01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:53,830 possible conversation. Lastly, as I don't want to get too personal, but is 4350 01:19:53,830 --> 01:19:53,840 don't want to get too personal, but is 4351 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,990 don't want to get too personal, but is absolutely laughable that you consider 4352 01:19:55,990 --> 01:19:56,000 absolutely laughable that you consider 4353 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,590 absolutely laughable that you consider your romantic interest in me and our 4354 01:19:57,590 --> 01:19:57,600 your romantic interest in me and our 4355 01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,110 your romantic interest in me and our friendship ending as mutually parting 4356 01:20:00,110 --> 01:20:00,120 friendship ending as mutually parting 4357 01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,189 friendship ending as mutually parting ways. Like, what [\h__\h] planet are you 4358 01:20:03,189 --> 01:20:03,199 ways. Like, what [\h__\h] planet are you 4359 01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:05,430 ways. Like, what [\h__\h] planet are you on? Is that how you summarize every one 4360 01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:05,440 on? Is that how you summarize every one 4361 01:20:05,440 --> 01:20:07,030 on? Is that how you summarize every one of your failed courtships? Let me 4362 01:20:07,030 --> 01:20:07,040 of your failed courtships? Let me 4363 01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:08,430 of your failed courtships? Let me refresh you on the 4364 01:20:08,430 --> 01:20:08,440 refresh you on the 4365 01:20:08,440 --> 01:20:10,550 refresh you on the experience. After months of spending 4366 01:20:10,550 --> 01:20:10,560 experience. After months of spending 4367 01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,229 experience. After months of spending time together in person and your 4368 01:20:12,229 --> 01:20:12,239 time together in person and your 4369 01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:14,550 time together in person and your insistence that we were just friends, 4370 01:20:14,550 --> 01:20:14,560 insistence that we were just friends, 4371 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,550 insistence that we were just friends, your goal seemingly was instead to spend 4372 01:20:16,550 --> 01:20:16,560 your goal seemingly was instead to spend 4373 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,310 your goal seemingly was instead to spend time with me and see if I would change 4374 01:20:18,310 --> 01:20:18,320 time with me and see if I would change 4375 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,149 time with me and see if I would change my mind and be open to a romantic 4376 01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:20,159 my mind and be open to a romantic 4377 01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:22,229 my mind and be open to a romantic relationship. At that time, I felt like 4378 01:20:22,229 --> 01:20:22,239 relationship. At that time, I felt like 4379 01:20:22,239 --> 01:20:23,910 relationship. At that time, I felt like I'd finally had found a like-minded 4380 01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:23,920 I'd finally had found a like-minded 4381 01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:25,350 I'd finally had found a like-minded content creator and friend close and 4382 01:20:25,350 --> 01:20:25,360 content creator and friend close and 4383 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,189 content creator and friend close and distance to me. I think I even said 4384 01:20:27,189 --> 01:20:27,199 distance to me. I think I even said 4385 01:20:27,199 --> 01:20:28,790 distance to me. I think I even said something along the lines of, "These 4386 01:20:28,790 --> 01:20:28,800 something along the lines of, "These 4387 01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:30,470 something along the lines of, "These feel like dates. I'm just making sure 4388 01:20:30,470 --> 01:20:30,480 feel like dates. I'm just making sure 4389 01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:32,470 feel like dates. I'm just making sure we're hanging out as friends." Right? 4390 01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:32,480 we're hanging out as friends." Right? 4391 01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:34,149 we're hanging out as friends." Right? After you grew distance, I felt 4392 01:20:34,149 --> 01:20:34,159 After you grew distance, I felt 4393 01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:35,669 After you grew distance, I felt manipulated and pressured to say I was 4394 01:20:35,669 --> 01:20:35,679 manipulated and pressured to say I was 4395 01:20:35,679 --> 01:20:37,430 manipulated and pressured to say I was open to dating in order to not lose that 4396 01:20:37,430 --> 01:20:37,440 open to dating in order to not lose that 4397 01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:39,350 open to dating in order to not lose that friendship. You then dated Gab's sister 4398 01:20:39,350 --> 01:20:39,360 friendship. You then dated Gab's sister 4399 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,030 friendship. You then dated Gab's sister over me and then asked about my dating 4400 01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:41,040 over me and then asked about my dating 4401 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,950 over me and then asked about my dating availability immediately after that 4402 01:20:42,950 --> 01:20:42,960 availability immediately after that 4403 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,870 availability immediately after that ended. I tried to play it off but was 4404 01:20:44,870 --> 01:20:44,880 ended. I tried to play it off but was 4405 01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:46,630 ended. I tried to play it off but was uncomfortable with the whole situation. 4406 01:20:46,630 --> 01:20:46,640 uncomfortable with the whole situation. 4407 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,229 uncomfortable with the whole situation. I felt like I was only important to you 4408 01:20:48,229 --> 01:20:48,239 I felt like I was only important to you 4409 01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:50,550 I felt like I was only important to you if I was datable and a backup option at 4410 01:20:50,550 --> 01:20:50,560 if I was datable and a backup option at 4411 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,149 if I was datable and a backup option at that. Would I have been treated the same 4412 01:20:52,149 --> 01:20:52,159 that. Would I have been treated the same 4413 01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:53,669 that. Would I have been treated the same way as a new potential friend if I was 4414 01:20:53,669 --> 01:20:53,679 way as a new potential friend if I was 4415 01:20:53,679 --> 01:20:55,189 way as a new potential friend if I was male identifying? This is the whole 4416 01:20:55,189 --> 01:20:55,199 male identifying? This is the whole 4417 01:20:55,199 --> 01:20:56,709 male identifying? This is the whole reason I went to your staff in the first 4418 01:20:56,709 --> 01:20:56,719 reason I went to your staff in the first 4419 01:20:56,719 --> 01:20:58,630 reason I went to your staff in the first place and not you directly. I felt 4420 01:20:58,630 --> 01:20:58,640 place and not you directly. I felt 4421 01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,390 place and not you directly. I felt objectified by my direct experiences 4422 01:21:00,390 --> 01:21:00,400 objectified by my direct experiences 4423 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:01,910 objectified by my direct experiences towards you and did not wish to repeat 4424 01:21:01,910 --> 01:21:01,920 towards you and did not wish to repeat 4425 01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:03,430 towards you and did not wish to repeat said experiences for the sake of my own 4426 01:21:03,430 --> 01:21:03,440 said experiences for the sake of my own 4427 01:21:03,440 --> 01:21:05,110 said experiences for the sake of my own mental health, but you implied you 4428 01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:05,120 mental health, but you implied you 4429 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:06,870 mental health, but you implied you needed the clarification. So there you 4430 01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:06,880 needed the clarification. So there you 4431 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:08,950 needed the clarification. So there you go, buddy. At this point, I feel 4432 01:21:08,950 --> 01:21:08,960 go, buddy. At this point, I feel 4433 01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:10,709 go, buddy. At this point, I feel exacerbated with the favor I've given 4434 01:21:10,709 --> 01:21:10,719 exacerbated with the favor I've given 4435 01:21:10,719 --> 01:21:11,990 exacerbated with the favor I've given you and others, personally, 4436 01:21:11,990 --> 01:21:12,000 you and others, personally, 4437 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,590 you and others, personally, professionally. So, I'll be ending the 4438 01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:13,600 professionally. So, I'll be ending the 4439 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,910 professionally. So, I'll be ending the conversation here to remind you I am not 4440 01:21:15,910 --> 01:21:15,920 conversation here to remind you I am not 4441 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,430 conversation here to remind you I am not a third party in this situation trying 4442 01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:17,440 a third party in this situation trying 4443 01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:19,510 a third party in this situation trying to get cheap or easy views off a popular 4444 01:21:19,510 --> 01:21:19,520 to get cheap or easy views off a popular 4445 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,110 to get cheap or easy views off a popular content creator. This is how Chris 4446 01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:21,120 content creator. This is how Chris 4447 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,270 content creator. This is how Chris treated me behind my back. This is how 4448 01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:23,280 treated me behind my back. This is how 4449 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:24,950 treated me behind my back. This is how he never owned up to those actions till 4450 01:21:24,950 --> 01:21:24,960 he never owned up to those actions till 4451 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:26,950 he never owned up to those actions till I had to find out about them myself. 4452 01:21:26,950 --> 01:21:26,960 I had to find out about them myself. 4453 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,030 I had to find out about them myself. This is how his behavior has continued. 4454 01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:29,040 This is how his behavior has continued. 4455 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:30,550 This is how his behavior has continued. This is how the greater DA Games 4456 01:21:30,550 --> 01:21:30,560 This is how the greater DA Games 4457 01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,229 This is how the greater DA Games community could be potentially harmful 4458 01:21:32,229 --> 01:21:32,239 community could be potentially harmful 4459 01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:34,390 community could be potentially harmful to children. This is on top of Chris's 4460 01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:34,400 to children. This is on top of Chris's 4461 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,470 to children. This is on top of Chris's misogynistic anti-semitic behavior that 4462 01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:36,480 misogynistic anti-semitic behavior that 4463 01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:38,070 misogynistic anti-semitic behavior that I stupidly forced myself to tolerate 4464 01:21:38,070 --> 01:21:38,080 I stupidly forced myself to tolerate 4465 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:39,750 I stupidly forced myself to tolerate when he worked for me. And the fact that 4466 01:21:39,750 --> 01:21:39,760 when he worked for me. And the fact that 4467 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,510 when he worked for me. And the fact that I have to sit here and fight and scream 4468 01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:41,520 I have to sit here and fight and scream 4469 01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,110 I have to sit here and fight and scream and kick for anyone to take this 4470 01:21:43,110 --> 01:21:43,120 and kick for anyone to take this 4471 01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:44,790 and kick for anyone to take this seriously is so emotionally draining, 4472 01:21:44,790 --> 01:21:44,800 seriously is so emotionally draining, 4473 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,470 seriously is so emotionally draining, triggering, and insulting. This whole 4474 01:21:46,470 --> 01:21:46,480 triggering, and insulting. This whole 4475 01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:47,990 triggering, and insulting. This whole situation has been a nightmare. But I'm 4476 01:21:47,990 --> 01:21:48,000 situation has been a nightmare. But I'm 4477 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:49,430 situation has been a nightmare. But I'm not going to sit here and let everyone 4478 01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:49,440 not going to sit here and let everyone 4479 01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:51,189 not going to sit here and let everyone else pretend it's just a joke out of 4480 01:21:51,189 --> 01:21:51,199 else pretend it's just a joke out of 4481 01:21:51,199 --> 01:21:53,350 else pretend it's just a joke out of public convenience. And I would bet good 4482 01:21:53,350 --> 01:21:53,360 public convenience. And I would bet good 4483 01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,350 public convenience. And I would bet good money that he's still on your payroll. 4484 01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:55,360 money that he's still on your payroll. 4485 01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:58,550 money that he's still on your payroll. I'm at a loss for words. Frankly, I do 4486 01:21:58,550 --> 01:21:58,560 I'm at a loss for words. Frankly, I do 4487 01:21:58,560 --> 01:21:59,830 I'm at a loss for words. Frankly, I do not have the patience or emotional 4488 01:21:59,830 --> 01:21:59,840 not have the patience or emotional 4489 01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:01,910 not have the patience or emotional bandwidth for your tone, your constant 4490 01:22:01,910 --> 01:22:01,920 bandwidth for your tone, your constant 4491 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,669 bandwidth for your tone, your constant vivilization, or to discuss this further 4492 01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:03,679 vivilization, or to discuss this further 4493 01:22:03,679 --> 01:22:05,030 vivilization, or to discuss this further with you at this point for your own 4494 01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:05,040 with you at this point for your own 4495 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:06,870 with you at this point for your own perceived direct benefit. To be blunt, 4496 01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:06,880 perceived direct benefit. To be blunt, 4497 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,149 perceived direct benefit. To be blunt, you triggered the [\h__\h] out of me, 4498 01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:08,159 you triggered the [\h__\h] out of me, 4499 01:22:08,159 --> 01:22:10,149 you triggered the [\h__\h] out of me, Steven, and I still tried multiple times 4500 01:22:10,149 --> 01:22:10,159 Steven, and I still tried multiple times 4501 01:22:10,159 --> 01:22:11,990 Steven, and I still tried multiple times to communicate with you, but ultimately 4502 01:22:11,990 --> 01:22:12,000 to communicate with you, but ultimately 4503 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,149 to communicate with you, but ultimately was met with silence until now. You were 4504 01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:14,159 was met with silence until now. You were 4505 01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:15,990 was met with silence until now. You were screaming on Twitter like a child at me 4506 01:22:15,990 --> 01:22:16,000 screaming on Twitter like a child at me 4507 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,669 screaming on Twitter like a child at me for months after trying to get any kind 4508 01:22:17,669 --> 01:22:17,679 for months after trying to get any kind 4509 01:22:17,679 --> 01:22:19,590 for months after trying to get any kind of internal word on Chris and the 4510 01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:19,600 of internal word on Chris and the 4511 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,510 of internal word on Chris and the information being in the public eye and 4512 01:22:21,510 --> 01:22:21,520 information being in the public eye and 4513 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,070 information being in the public eye and you still haven't [\h__\h] apologized for 4514 01:22:24,070 --> 01:22:24,080 you still haven't [\h__\h] apologized for 4515 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:25,990 you still haven't [\h__\h] apologized for any of it. How do you think this makes 4516 01:22:25,990 --> 01:22:26,000 any of it. How do you think this makes 4517 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,990 any of it. How do you think this makes me feel? On top of that, only then to 4518 01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:28,000 me feel? On top of that, only then to 4519 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:29,990 me feel? On top of that, only then to even be taking it seriously because I 4520 01:22:29,990 --> 01:22:30,000 even be taking it seriously because I 4521 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:31,830 even be taking it seriously because I might make a video and hurt other 4522 01:22:31,830 --> 01:22:31,840 might make a video and hurt other 4523 01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,229 might make a video and hurt other people's reputation really shows me how 4524 01:22:34,229 --> 01:22:34,239 people's reputation really shows me how 4525 01:22:34,239 --> 01:22:35,750 people's reputation really shows me how being affected by all this really 4526 01:22:35,750 --> 01:22:35,760 being affected by all this really 4527 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,830 being affected by all this really matters in the long run to you. Sexual 4528 01:22:37,830 --> 01:22:37,840 matters in the long run to you. Sexual 4529 01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,070 matters in the long run to you. Sexual harassment, use of Nazi imagery, 4530 01:22:40,070 --> 01:22:40,080 harassment, use of Nazi imagery, 4531 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:41,910 harassment, use of Nazi imagery, pedophilia. Fine to sweep it under the 4532 01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:41,920 pedophilia. Fine to sweep it under the 4533 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,790 pedophilia. Fine to sweep it under the rug. Just don't bring it up on Twitter. 4534 01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:44,800 rug. Just don't bring it up on Twitter. 4535 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,590 rug. Just don't bring it up on Twitter. Rammeses, you bring this upon yourself. 4536 01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:47,600 Rammeses, you bring this upon yourself. 4537 01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:49,830 Rammeses, you bring this upon yourself. Part whatever. Chris isn't the victim. 4538 01:22:49,830 --> 01:22:49,840 Part whatever. Chris isn't the victim. 4539 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,310 Part whatever. Chris isn't the victim. Chris isn't the victim. I can't believe 4540 01:22:52,310 --> 01:22:52,320 Chris isn't the victim. I can't believe 4541 01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:53,910 Chris isn't the victim. I can't believe I have to even have this segment. But 4542 01:22:53,910 --> 01:22:53,920 I have to even have this segment. But 4543 01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:55,510 I have to even have this segment. But with the implication of Steven's, what 4544 01:22:55,510 --> 01:22:55,520 with the implication of Steven's, what 4545 01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,430 with the implication of Steven's, what are you going to do? Record me comment 4546 01:22:57,430 --> 01:22:57,440 are you going to do? Record me comment 4547 01:22:57,440 --> 01:22:58,950 are you going to do? Record me comment on top of Chris's statement talking 4548 01:22:58,950 --> 01:22:58,960 on top of Chris's statement talking 4549 01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,790 on top of Chris's statement talking about the recording being without his 4550 01:23:00,790 --> 01:23:00,800 about the recording being without his 4551 01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:02,790 about the recording being without his knowledge. Let's just clear this up. So 4552 01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:02,800 knowledge. Let's just clear this up. So 4553 01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,950 knowledge. Let's just clear this up. So firstly, as already stated, I thought it 4554 01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:04,960 firstly, as already stated, I thought it 4555 01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:06,229 firstly, as already stated, I thought it was obvious that a call was being 4556 01:23:06,229 --> 01:23:06,239 was obvious that a call was being 4557 01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:08,229 was obvious that a call was being recorded for safety reasons because it's 4558 01:23:08,229 --> 01:23:08,239 recorded for safety reasons because it's 4559 01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:10,790 recorded for safety reasons because it's about sexual harassment. It's not like a 4560 01:23:10,790 --> 01:23:10,800 about sexual harassment. It's not like a 4561 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,510 about sexual harassment. It's not like a fun call. Like I thought it was obvious. 4562 01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:13,520 fun call. Like I thought it was obvious. 4563 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,189 fun call. Like I thought it was obvious. Obviously, it wasn't. This isn't just 4564 01:23:15,189 --> 01:23:15,199 Obviously, it wasn't. This isn't just 4565 01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:16,870 Obviously, it wasn't. This isn't just someone calling me a [\h__\h] or something 4566 01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:16,880 someone calling me a [\h__\h] or something 4567 01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,470 someone calling me a [\h__\h] or something subliminally small. Like, this is 4568 01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:18,480 subliminally small. Like, this is 4569 01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:20,070 subliminally small. Like, this is someone using the fact that I am a girl 4570 01:23:20,070 --> 01:23:20,080 someone using the fact that I am a girl 4571 01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:21,990 someone using the fact that I am a girl as a way to negatively sexualize me to 4572 01:23:21,990 --> 01:23:22,000 as a way to negatively sexualize me to 4573 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:23,669 as a way to negatively sexualize me to make themselves feel better. Should I 4574 01:23:23,669 --> 01:23:23,679 make themselves feel better. Should I 4575 01:23:23,679 --> 01:23:25,270 make themselves feel better. Should I have to say that's not okay? 4576 01:23:25,270 --> 01:23:25,280 have to say that's not okay? 4577 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:26,950 have to say that's not okay? Additionally, this is someone I trusted 4578 01:23:26,950 --> 01:23:26,960 Additionally, this is someone I trusted 4579 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,790 Additionally, this is someone I trusted enough to represent me at a convention. 4580 01:23:28,790 --> 01:23:28,800 enough to represent me at a convention. 4581 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,629 enough to represent me at a convention. This isn't just some rando being a dick 4582 01:23:30,629 --> 01:23:30,639 This isn't just some rando being a dick 4583 01:23:30,639 --> 01:23:32,229 This isn't just some rando being a dick because he's mad at me for existing on 4584 01:23:32,229 --> 01:23:32,239 because he's mad at me for existing on 4585 01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:33,590 because he's mad at me for existing on the internet. I think that's why this 4586 01:23:33,590 --> 01:23:33,600 the internet. I think that's why this 4587 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,669 the internet. I think that's why this sucks a little bit more. Figures because 4588 01:23:35,669 --> 01:23:35,679 sucks a little bit more. Figures because 4589 01:23:35,679 --> 01:23:41,910 sucks a little bit more. Figures because [\h__\h] love bringing up old stuff. 4590 01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:41,920 4591 01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,350 Something else to keep in mind is the 4592 01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:43,360 Something else to keep in mind is the 4593 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,189 Something else to keep in mind is the loss of reputation which is hard to 4594 01:23:45,189 --> 01:23:45,199 loss of reputation which is hard to 4595 01:23:45,199 --> 01:23:46,790 loss of reputation which is hard to recover from. How do the receivers of 4596 01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:46,800 recover from. How do the receivers of 4597 01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,629 recover from. How do the receivers of the story knowing that it's false or not 4598 01:23:48,629 --> 01:23:48,639 the story knowing that it's false or not 4599 01:23:48,639 --> 01:23:49,990 the story knowing that it's false or not going to feel about the person who the 4600 01:23:49,990 --> 01:23:50,000 going to feel about the person who the 4601 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,750 going to feel about the person who the story is being told about? I didn't know 4602 01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:51,760 story is being told about? I didn't know 4603 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,270 story is being told about? I didn't know this was happening and I can't defend 4604 01:23:53,270 --> 01:23:53,280 this was happening and I can't defend 4605 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,189 this was happening and I can't defend myself for my reputation if I'm not 4606 01:23:55,189 --> 01:23:55,199 myself for my reputation if I'm not 4607 01:23:55,199 --> 01:23:56,950 myself for my reputation if I'm not there. If it was a collaborator I was 4608 01:23:56,950 --> 01:23:56,960 there. If it was a collaborator I was 4609 01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,390 there. If it was a collaborator I was interested in working with at the time, 4610 01:23:58,390 --> 01:23:58,400 interested in working with at the time, 4611 01:23:58,400 --> 01:23:59,590 interested in working with at the time, he would definitely have negative 4612 01:23:59,590 --> 01:23:59,600 he would definitely have negative 4613 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,350 he would definitely have negative feelings about working with me now. What 4614 01:24:01,350 --> 01:24:01,360 feelings about working with me now. What 4615 01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,189 feelings about working with me now. What happens if the story spreads or becomes 4616 01:24:03,189 --> 01:24:03,199 happens if the story spreads or becomes 4617 01:24:03,199 --> 01:24:04,629 happens if the story spreads or becomes distorted through a game of telephone 4618 01:24:04,629 --> 01:24:04,639 distorted through a game of telephone 4619 01:24:04,639 --> 01:24:06,310 distorted through a game of telephone and changes depending on the teller. 4620 01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:06,320 and changes depending on the teller. 4621 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:07,910 and changes depending on the teller. First impressions can last months or 4622 01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:07,920 First impressions can last months or 4623 01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,510 First impressions can last months or even years and will psychologically 4624 01:24:09,510 --> 01:24:09,520 even years and will psychologically 4625 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,270 even years and will psychologically affect personal treatment and ideals, 4626 01:24:11,270 --> 01:24:11,280 affect personal treatment and ideals, 4627 01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,830 affect personal treatment and ideals, even the fact of contrary evidence. See 4628 01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:13,840 even the fact of contrary evidence. See 4629 01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:15,510 even the fact of contrary evidence. See the political landscape. This is not 4630 01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:15,520 the political landscape. This is not 4631 01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:16,950 the political landscape. This is not something Chris came to me about after 4632 01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:16,960 something Chris came to me about after 4633 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,709 something Chris came to me about after it happening. We seemingly had a decent 4634 01:24:18,709 --> 01:24:18,719 it happening. We seemingly had a decent 4635 01:24:18,719 --> 01:24:20,149 it happening. We seemingly had a decent rapport up to this point. Chris could 4636 01:24:20,149 --> 01:24:20,159 rapport up to this point. Chris could 4637 01:24:20,159 --> 01:24:21,510 rapport up to this point. Chris could have admitted this happened years ago 4638 01:24:21,510 --> 01:24:21,520 have admitted this happened years ago 4639 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:22,950 have admitted this happened years ago and I would have still been pissed, but 4640 01:24:22,950 --> 01:24:22,960 and I would have still been pissed, but 4641 01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:24,229 and I would have still been pissed, but at least he would have owned up to it 4642 01:24:24,229 --> 01:24:24,239 at least he would have owned up to it 4643 01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:25,830 at least he would have owned up to it and maybe made a public apology, but 4644 01:24:25,830 --> 01:24:25,840 and maybe made a public apology, but 4645 01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,070 and maybe made a public apology, but instead I had to hear it from a witness. 4646 01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:28,080 instead I had to hear it from a witness. 4647 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:29,750 instead I had to hear it from a witness. It makes me feel like crap. It makes me 4648 01:24:29,750 --> 01:24:29,760 It makes me feel like crap. It makes me 4649 01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,669 It makes me feel like crap. It makes me feel like my personal comfort, safety, 4650 01:24:31,669 --> 01:24:31,679 feel like my personal comfort, safety, 4651 01:24:31,679 --> 01:24:33,189 feel like my personal comfort, safety, and privacy is less important than 4652 01:24:33,189 --> 01:24:33,199 and privacy is less important than 4653 01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:35,189 and privacy is less important than convenience or the bro code. At the same 4654 01:24:35,189 --> 01:24:35,199 convenience or the bro code. At the same 4655 01:24:35,199 --> 01:24:36,470 convenience or the bro code. At the same point, I want to analyze the 4656 01:24:36,470 --> 01:24:36,480 point, I want to analyze the 4657 01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:38,149 point, I want to analyze the implications of mistreatment. Like, if 4658 01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:38,159 implications of mistreatment. Like, if 4659 01:24:38,159 --> 01:24:40,149 implications of mistreatment. Like, if Chris really felt this way, I don't know 4660 01:24:40,149 --> 01:24:40,159 Chris really felt this way, I don't know 4661 01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:41,990 Chris really felt this way, I don't know why it didn't come up at that moment he 4662 01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:42,000 why it didn't come up at that moment he 4663 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,070 why it didn't come up at that moment he was making those jokes or after or even 4664 01:24:44,070 --> 01:24:44,080 was making those jokes or after or even 4665 01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:45,990 was making those jokes or after or even when I confronted him. It came up on an 4666 01:24:45,990 --> 01:24:46,000 when I confronted him. It came up on an 4667 01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,149 when I confronted him. It came up on an apology statement as a vague reference. 4668 01:24:48,149 --> 01:24:48,159 apology statement as a vague reference. 4669 01:24:48,159 --> 01:24:50,149 apology statement as a vague reference. This is actual sexualized art, a 4670 01:24:50,149 --> 01:24:50,159 This is actual sexualized art, a 4671 01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:52,229 This is actual sexualized art, a sexualized story, buying me a Discord 4672 01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:52,239 sexualized story, buying me a Discord 4673 01:24:52,239 --> 01:24:54,149 sexualized story, buying me a Discord figure years ago. And he also made 4674 01:24:54,149 --> 01:24:54,159 figure years ago. And he also made 4675 01:24:54,159 --> 01:24:55,830 figure years ago. And he also made comments on my body when I did the ice 4676 01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:55,840 comments on my body when I did the ice 4677 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,149 comments on my body when I did the ice bucket challenge. So, three sex things 4678 01:24:58,149 --> 01:24:58,159 bucket challenge. So, three sex things 4679 01:24:58,159 --> 01:25:00,310 bucket challenge. So, three sex things plus a potential romantic gesture. Chris 4680 01:25:00,310 --> 01:25:00,320 plus a potential romantic gesture. Chris 4681 01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:01,990 plus a potential romantic gesture. Chris may have been bitter because I didn't 4682 01:25:01,990 --> 01:25:02,000 may have been bitter because I didn't 4683 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,669 may have been bitter because I didn't reciprocate romantic feelings or 4684 01:25:03,669 --> 01:25:03,679 reciprocate romantic feelings or 4685 01:25:03,679 --> 01:25:05,189 reciprocate romantic feelings or something. Turns out editing for free 4686 01:25:05,189 --> 01:25:05,199 something. Turns out editing for free 4687 01:25:05,199 --> 01:25:07,980 something. Turns out editing for free isn't a winning strategy for dating KP. 4688 01:25:07,980 --> 01:25:07,990 isn't a winning strategy for dating KP. 4689 01:25:07,990 --> 01:25:12,629 isn't a winning strategy for dating KP. [Music] 4690 01:25:12,629 --> 01:25:12,639 4691 01:25:12,639 --> 01:25:16,229 And then things got worse. Hi, I'm 4692 01:25:16,229 --> 01:25:16,239 And then things got worse. Hi, I'm 4693 01:25:16,239 --> 01:25:18,470 And then things got worse. Hi, I'm Courtney. You may know me as Pete or 4694 01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:18,480 Courtney. You may know me as Pete or 4695 01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:20,470 Courtney. You may know me as Pete or Orchard, but honestly, call me what you 4696 01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:20,480 Orchard, but honestly, call me what you 4697 01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:22,709 Orchard, but honestly, call me what you like. KP reached out to me a few weeks 4698 01:25:22,709 --> 01:25:22,719 like. KP reached out to me a few weeks 4699 01:25:22,719 --> 01:25:24,790 like. KP reached out to me a few weeks ago asking me to cover the Gabe story in 4700 01:25:24,790 --> 01:25:24,800 ago asking me to cover the Gabe story in 4701 01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:26,790 ago asking me to cover the Gabe story in more detail as she was busy working on 4702 01:25:26,790 --> 01:25:26,800 more detail as she was busy working on 4703 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,790 more detail as she was busy working on this video here, and I unfortunately 4704 01:25:28,790 --> 01:25:28,800 this video here, and I unfortunately 4705 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,470 this video here, and I unfortunately have a fair share of experience with 4706 01:25:30,470 --> 01:25:30,480 have a fair share of experience with 4707 01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:32,470 have a fair share of experience with recognizing online grooming, and I'm 4708 01:25:32,470 --> 01:25:32,480 recognizing online grooming, and I'm 4709 01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:34,390 recognizing online grooming, and I'm pretty unashamed in speaking out loudly 4710 01:25:34,390 --> 01:25:34,400 pretty unashamed in speaking out loudly 4711 01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,950 pretty unashamed in speaking out loudly against it. Gabriel C. Brown, also known 4712 01:25:36,950 --> 01:25:36,960 against it. Gabriel C. Brown, also known 4713 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,030 against it. Gabriel C. Brown, also known as Black Griffin Online, has had growing 4714 01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:39,040 as Black Griffin Online, has had growing 4715 01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,189 as Black Griffin Online, has had growing speculations and concerns regarding his 4716 01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:41,199 speculations and concerns regarding his 4717 01:25:41,199 --> 01:25:43,030 speculations and concerns regarding his relationship with his now wife and voice 4718 01:25:43,030 --> 01:25:43,040 relationship with his now wife and voice 4719 01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:44,470 relationship with his now wife and voice actress of Sweetie Bell and My Little 4720 01:25:44,470 --> 01:25:44,480 actress of Sweetie Bell and My Little 4721 01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:47,110 actress of Sweetie Bell and My Little Pony. From most accounts, it looks as if 4722 01:25:47,110 --> 01:25:47,120 Pony. From most accounts, it looks as if 4723 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,870 Pony. From most accounts, it looks as if Gabe had groomed his now wife from the 4724 01:25:48,870 --> 01:25:48,880 Gabe had groomed his now wife from the 4725 01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,110 Gabe had groomed his now wife from the time she was 14 until she pursued him 4726 01:25:51,110 --> 01:25:51,120 time she was 14 until she pursued him 4727 01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,750 time she was 14 until she pursued him herself at the age of 20. After their 4728 01:25:53,750 --> 01:25:53,760 herself at the age of 20. After their 4729 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,270 herself at the age of 20. After their announced engagement and subsequent 4730 01:25:55,270 --> 01:25:55,280 announced engagement and subsequent 4731 01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,270 announced engagement and subsequent marriage, Gabe faced growing accusations 4732 01:25:57,270 --> 01:25:57,280 marriage, Gabe faced growing accusations 4733 01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,350 marriage, Gabe faced growing accusations online of grooming his wife. He 4734 01:25:59,350 --> 01:25:59,360 online of grooming his wife. He 4735 01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:00,870 online of grooming his wife. He dismissed the accusations under the 4736 01:26:00,870 --> 01:26:00,880 dismissed the accusations under the 4737 01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,629 dismissed the accusations under the guise that he had not known her prior to 4738 01:26:02,629 --> 01:26:02,639 guise that he had not known her prior to 4739 01:26:02,639 --> 01:26:04,790 guise that he had not known her prior to her being 20, and any interactions they 4740 01:26:04,790 --> 01:26:04,800 her being 20, and any interactions they 4741 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,550 her being 20, and any interactions they did have while she was a minor were 4742 01:26:06,550 --> 01:26:06,560 did have while she was a minor were 4743 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,149 did have while she was a minor were strictly professional and in convention 4744 01:26:08,149 --> 01:26:08,159 strictly professional and in convention 4745 01:26:08,159 --> 01:26:10,870 strictly professional and in convention spaces only. A Google document has since 4746 01:26:10,870 --> 01:26:10,880 spaces only. A Google document has since 4747 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,470 spaces only. A Google document has since been created compiling evidence from 4748 01:26:12,470 --> 01:26:12,480 been created compiling evidence from 4749 01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:14,629 been created compiling evidence from Gabe and his wife's own Twitter and 4750 01:26:14,629 --> 01:26:14,639 Gabe and his wife's own Twitter and 4751 01:26:14,639 --> 01:26:15,910 Gabe and his wife's own Twitter and YouTube accounts proving these 4752 01:26:15,910 --> 01:26:15,920 YouTube accounts proving these 4753 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,910 YouTube accounts proving these dismissals to be false, as well as 4754 01:26:17,910 --> 01:26:17,920 dismissals to be false, as well as 4755 01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:19,830 dismissals to be false, as well as proving multiple other instances of Gabe 4756 01:26:19,830 --> 01:26:19,840 proving multiple other instances of Gabe 4757 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,470 proving multiple other instances of Gabe showcasing problematic behavior. I've 4758 01:26:22,470 --> 01:26:22,480 showcasing problematic behavior. I've 4759 01:26:22,480 --> 01:26:24,149 showcasing problematic behavior. I've covered the topic in a little more depth 4760 01:26:24,149 --> 01:26:24,159 covered the topic in a little more depth 4761 01:26:24,159 --> 01:26:26,470 covered the topic in a little more depth in an hourong video on my channel, which 4762 01:26:26,470 --> 01:26:26,480 in an hourong video on my channel, which 4763 01:26:26,480 --> 01:26:27,830 in an hourong video on my channel, which will no doubt be linked in the 4764 01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:27,840 will no doubt be linked in the 4765 01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,629 will no doubt be linked in the description below. Anyway, I'm sprinkled 4766 01:26:30,629 --> 01:26:30,639 description below. Anyway, I'm sprinkled 4767 01:26:30,639 --> 01:26:32,229 description below. Anyway, I'm sprinkled throughout this video a few times, so I 4768 01:26:32,229 --> 01:26:32,239 throughout this video a few times, so I 4769 01:26:32,239 --> 01:26:42,629 throughout this video a few times, so I shall see you all in my next segment. 4770 01:26:42,629 --> 01:26:42,639 4771 01:26:42,639 --> 01:26:44,790 I became a fan of Saber Spark when I was 4772 01:26:44,790 --> 01:26:44,800 I became a fan of Saber Spark when I was 4773 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:46,709 I became a fan of Saber Spark when I was in high school when I found his essay 4774 01:26:46,709 --> 01:26:46,719 in high school when I found his essay 4775 01:26:46,719 --> 01:26:49,270 in high school when I found his essay titled Ballad of the Brony in 2011. 4776 01:26:49,270 --> 01:26:49,280 titled Ballad of the Brony in 2011. 4777 01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,990 titled Ballad of the Brony in 2011. After graduating and turning 18, I added 4778 01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:52,000 After graduating and turning 18, I added 4779 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:53,750 After graduating and turning 18, I added him on Skype to tell him I was a big fan 4780 01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:53,760 him on Skype to tell him I was a big fan 4781 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,590 him on Skype to tell him I was a big fan of his. He added me back almost 4782 01:26:55,590 --> 01:26:55,600 of his. He added me back almost 4783 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,590 of his. He added me back almost instantly and we had a conversation 4784 01:26:57,590 --> 01:26:57,600 instantly and we had a conversation 4785 01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,430 instantly and we had a conversation ending with him giving me his phone 4786 01:26:59,430 --> 01:26:59,440 ending with him giving me his phone 4787 01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:01,270 ending with him giving me his phone number, which was a really big deal to 4788 01:27:01,270 --> 01:27:01,280 number, which was a really big deal to 4789 01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:02,870 number, which was a really big deal to me at the time since this was the first 4790 01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:02,880 me at the time since this was the first 4791 01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:04,629 me at the time since this was the first time interacting with any sort of 4792 01:27:04,629 --> 01:27:04,639 time interacting with any sort of 4793 01:27:04,639 --> 01:27:07,030 time interacting with any sort of celebrity. I had developed a parasocial 4794 01:27:07,030 --> 01:27:07,040 celebrity. I had developed a parasocial 4795 01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,270 celebrity. I had developed a parasocial crush on him due to being starruck, 4796 01:27:09,270 --> 01:27:09,280 crush on him due to being starruck, 4797 01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,189 crush on him due to being starruck, which was something he was aware of. We 4798 01:27:11,189 --> 01:27:11,199 which was something he was aware of. We 4799 01:27:11,199 --> 01:27:12,950 which was something he was aware of. We would talk on Skype and text each other 4800 01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:12,960 would talk on Skype and text each other 4801 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,950 would talk on Skype and text each other semi-frequently leading up to the first 4802 01:27:14,950 --> 01:27:14,960 semi-frequently leading up to the first 4803 01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,510 semi-frequently leading up to the first time meeting him. In 2012, I went to my 4804 01:27:17,510 --> 01:27:17,520 time meeting him. In 2012, I went to my 4805 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,590 time meeting him. In 2012, I went to my first pony convention. This was my first 4806 01:27:19,590 --> 01:27:19,600 first pony convention. This was my first 4807 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,669 first pony convention. This was my first time ever traveling by myself and was 4808 01:27:21,669 --> 01:27:21,679 time ever traveling by myself and was 4809 01:27:21,679 --> 01:27:23,750 time ever traveling by myself and was soon after the two of us became friends. 4810 01:27:23,750 --> 01:27:23,760 soon after the two of us became friends. 4811 01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:25,510 soon after the two of us became friends. When I met up with him in person, he 4812 01:27:25,510 --> 01:27:25,520 When I met up with him in person, he 4813 01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:27,350 When I met up with him in person, he invited me to his hotel room and he 4814 01:27:27,350 --> 01:27:27,360 invited me to his hotel room and he 4815 01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,270 invited me to his hotel room and he showed me the video he was editing on 4816 01:27:29,270 --> 01:27:29,280 showed me the video he was editing on 4817 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,270 showed me the video he was editing on his laptop, causing me to internally 4818 01:27:31,270 --> 01:27:31,280 his laptop, causing me to internally 4819 01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,430 his laptop, causing me to internally geek out. I was really nervous being 4820 01:27:33,430 --> 01:27:33,440 geek out. I was really nervous being 4821 01:27:33,440 --> 01:27:35,510 geek out. I was really nervous being alone in a hotel with someone I was a 4822 01:27:35,510 --> 01:27:35,520 alone in a hotel with someone I was a 4823 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,669 alone in a hotel with someone I was a huge fan of and had a crush on, but I 4824 01:27:37,669 --> 01:27:37,679 huge fan of and had a crush on, but I 4825 01:27:37,679 --> 01:27:39,590 huge fan of and had a crush on, but I tried to play it cool. He was four to 5 4826 01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:39,600 tried to play it cool. He was four to 5 4827 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,669 tried to play it cool. He was four to 5 years older than me, making me feel more 4828 01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:41,679 years older than me, making me feel more 4829 01:27:41,679 --> 01:27:43,430 years older than me, making me feel more nervous and out of place. He would bring 4830 01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:43,440 nervous and out of place. He would bring 4831 01:27:43,440 --> 01:27:45,590 nervous and out of place. He would bring up the prospects of the two of us dating 4832 01:27:45,590 --> 01:27:45,600 up the prospects of the two of us dating 4833 01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,350 up the prospects of the two of us dating and how it didn't feel right for us to 4834 01:27:47,350 --> 01:27:47,360 and how it didn't feel right for us to 4835 01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,910 and how it didn't feel right for us to do so. After that, he almost immediately 4836 01:27:49,910 --> 01:27:49,920 do so. After that, he almost immediately 4837 01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,070 do so. After that, he almost immediately initiated making out with me and guided 4838 01:27:52,070 --> 01:27:52,080 initiated making out with me and guided 4839 01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,390 initiated making out with me and guided me to his bed. In this moment, he did 4840 01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:54,400 me to his bed. In this moment, he did 4841 01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,629 me to his bed. In this moment, he did not directly ask me for consent. I was 4842 01:27:56,629 --> 01:27:56,639 not directly ask me for consent. I was 4843 01:27:56,639 --> 01:27:58,790 not directly ask me for consent. I was thrown onto his bed and he would insert 4844 01:27:58,790 --> 01:27:58,800 thrown onto his bed and he would insert 4845 01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:00,950 thrown onto his bed and he would insert himself into me. Saber Spark was also 4846 01:28:00,950 --> 01:28:00,960 himself into me. Saber Spark was also 4847 01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,590 himself into me. Saber Spark was also significantly larger than me as I was an 4848 01:28:03,590 --> 01:28:03,600 significantly larger than me as I was an 4849 01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:05,830 significantly larger than me as I was an 80s something pound 18-year-old girl, so 4850 01:28:05,830 --> 01:28:05,840 80s something pound 18-year-old girl, so 4851 01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,229 80s something pound 18-year-old girl, so I physically could not stop him. I felt 4852 01:28:08,229 --> 01:28:08,239 I physically could not stop him. I felt 4853 01:28:08,239 --> 01:28:10,070 I physically could not stop him. I felt extremely nervous and uncomfortable 4854 01:28:10,070 --> 01:28:10,080 extremely nervous and uncomfortable 4855 01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:11,910 extremely nervous and uncomfortable because I had never experienced having 4856 01:28:11,910 --> 01:28:11,920 because I had never experienced having 4857 01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,070 because I had never experienced having any sort of sexual intimacy with someone 4858 01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:14,080 any sort of sexual intimacy with someone 4859 01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,149 any sort of sexual intimacy with someone I was not dating before, much less 4860 01:28:16,149 --> 01:28:16,159 I was not dating before, much less 4861 01:28:16,159 --> 01:28:18,390 I was not dating before, much less someone I just met. I was very new to 4862 01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:18,400 someone I just met. I was very new to 4863 01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,470 someone I just met. I was very new to meeting people online in general. At 4864 01:28:20,470 --> 01:28:20,480 meeting people online in general. At 4865 01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:22,149 meeting people online in general. At that moment, I laid there dissociating 4866 01:28:22,149 --> 01:28:22,159 that moment, I laid there dissociating 4867 01:28:22,159 --> 01:28:23,750 that moment, I laid there dissociating as I felt very wrong while trying to 4868 01:28:23,750 --> 01:28:23,760 as I felt very wrong while trying to 4869 01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:25,750 as I felt very wrong while trying to rationalize it in my head to convince 4870 01:28:25,750 --> 01:28:25,760 rationalize it in my head to convince 4871 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,430 rationalize it in my head to convince myself it was a safe and normal 4872 01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:27,440 myself it was a safe and normal 4873 01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:29,350 myself it was a safe and normal encounter. He brushed off the clean and 4874 01:28:29,350 --> 01:28:29,360 encounter. He brushed off the clean and 4875 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,030 encounter. He brushed off the clean and finished himself and came back to the 4876 01:28:31,030 --> 01:28:31,040 finished himself and came back to the 4877 01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,669 finished himself and came back to the bed and offered me a handshake saying 4878 01:28:33,669 --> 01:28:33,679 bed and offered me a handshake saying 4879 01:28:33,679 --> 01:28:35,430 bed and offered me a handshake saying friends. This would cause me for the 4880 01:28:35,430 --> 01:28:35,440 friends. This would cause me for the 4881 01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:37,110 friends. This would cause me for the rest of the event to feel that I was 4882 01:28:37,110 --> 01:28:37,120 rest of the event to feel that I was 4883 01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,270 rest of the event to feel that I was taken advantage of and ashamed of myself 4884 01:28:39,270 --> 01:28:39,280 taken advantage of and ashamed of myself 4885 01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,110 taken advantage of and ashamed of myself for not trying to stop the interaction. 4886 01:28:41,110 --> 01:28:41,120 for not trying to stop the interaction. 4887 01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:42,950 for not trying to stop the interaction. Though I tried pretending I was fine to 4888 01:28:42,950 --> 01:28:42,960 Though I tried pretending I was fine to 4889 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,750 Though I tried pretending I was fine to everyone around me, I was and still am 4890 01:28:45,750 --> 01:28:45,760 everyone around me, I was and still am 4891 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,750 everyone around me, I was and still am demisexual. And being put in that 4892 01:28:47,750 --> 01:28:47,760 demisexual. And being put in that 4893 01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:49,830 demisexual. And being put in that position was not something I wanted. I 4894 01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:49,840 position was not something I wanted. I 4895 01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,669 position was not something I wanted. I maintained the friendship until a second 4896 01:28:51,669 --> 01:28:51,679 maintained the friendship until a second 4897 01:28:51,679 --> 01:28:53,430 maintained the friendship until a second occurrence happening at a completely 4898 01:28:53,430 --> 01:28:53,440 occurrence happening at a completely 4899 01:28:53,440 --> 01:28:56,390 occurrence happening at a completely different Ponycon in 2013. This time we 4900 01:28:56,390 --> 01:28:56,400 different Ponycon in 2013. This time we 4901 01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,550 different Ponycon in 2013. This time we met in a public space but had no one 4902 01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:58,560 met in a public space but had no one 4903 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,110 met in a public space but had no one around and talked for a while. He kept 4904 01:29:01,110 --> 01:29:01,120 around and talked for a while. He kept 4905 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:02,709 around and talked for a while. He kept bringing out the prospects of us 4906 01:29:02,709 --> 01:29:02,719 bringing out the prospects of us 4907 01:29:02,719 --> 01:29:04,790 bringing out the prospects of us starting a relationship but how it felt 4908 01:29:04,790 --> 01:29:04,800 starting a relationship but how it felt 4909 01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:06,870 starting a relationship but how it felt wrong. He would grab my hand saying how 4910 01:29:06,870 --> 01:29:06,880 wrong. He would grab my hand saying how 4911 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,110 wrong. He would grab my hand saying how it felt so right only to push my hand 4912 01:29:09,110 --> 01:29:09,120 it felt so right only to push my hand 4913 01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,669 it felt so right only to push my hand away saying but so wrong. I had decided 4914 01:29:11,669 --> 01:29:11,679 away saying but so wrong. I had decided 4915 01:29:11,679 --> 01:29:13,830 away saying but so wrong. I had decided that my crush on him was something I 4916 01:29:13,830 --> 01:29:13,840 that my crush on him was something I 4917 01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:15,830 that my crush on him was something I needed to get over because I felt that 4918 01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:15,840 needed to get over because I felt that 4919 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,669 needed to get over because I felt that my emotions were being toyed with. He 4920 01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:17,679 my emotions were being toyed with. He 4921 01:29:17,679 --> 01:29:19,430 my emotions were being toyed with. He then suggested going to a more public 4922 01:29:19,430 --> 01:29:19,440 then suggested going to a more public 4923 01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:21,590 then suggested going to a more public space around others and we went into the 4924 01:29:21,590 --> 01:29:21,600 space around others and we went into the 4925 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,510 space around others and we went into the elevator to go up to the lobby of the 4926 01:29:23,510 --> 01:29:23,520 elevator to go up to the lobby of the 4927 01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,229 elevator to go up to the lobby of the Ponycon Hotel. As soon as the door 4928 01:29:26,229 --> 01:29:26,239 Ponycon Hotel. As soon as the door 4929 01:29:26,239 --> 01:29:28,470 Ponycon Hotel. As soon as the door closed, Saber Spark forcefully shoved me 4930 01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:28,480 closed, Saber Spark forcefully shoved me 4931 01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:30,070 closed, Saber Spark forcefully shoved me against the wall and shoved his tongue 4932 01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:30,080 against the wall and shoved his tongue 4933 01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,709 against the wall and shoved his tongue down my throat. It scared me and 4934 01:29:32,709 --> 01:29:32,719 down my throat. It scared me and 4935 01:29:32,719 --> 01:29:35,030 down my throat. It scared me and actually hurt, triggering another attack 4936 01:29:35,030 --> 01:29:35,040 actually hurt, triggering another attack 4937 01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,430 actually hurt, triggering another attack of dissociation. Once again, he did not 4938 01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:37,440 of dissociation. Once again, he did not 4939 01:29:37,440 --> 01:29:39,189 of dissociation. Once again, he did not ask for consent when throwing me into 4940 01:29:39,189 --> 01:29:39,199 ask for consent when throwing me into 4941 01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:41,350 ask for consent when throwing me into this situation. Once the doors opened 4942 01:29:41,350 --> 01:29:41,360 this situation. Once the doors opened 4943 01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,750 this situation. Once the doors opened and people were present, this led me to 4944 01:29:43,750 --> 01:29:43,760 and people were present, this led me to 4945 01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,830 and people were present, this led me to feel very embarrassed. 4946 01:29:45,830 --> 01:29:45,840 feel very embarrassed. 4947 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:47,990 feel very embarrassed. He got off me and took my hand and 4948 01:29:47,990 --> 01:29:48,000 He got off me and took my hand and 4949 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,229 He got off me and took my hand and guided me towards the stairs to go back 4950 01:29:50,229 --> 01:29:50,239 guided me towards the stairs to go back 4951 01:29:50,239 --> 01:29:52,310 guided me towards the stairs to go back down to where we just were and into a 4952 01:29:52,310 --> 01:29:52,320 down to where we just were and into a 4953 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,229 down to where we just were and into a man's restroom where he pulled his pants 4954 01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:54,239 man's restroom where he pulled his pants 4955 01:29:54,239 --> 01:29:56,229 man's restroom where he pulled his pants down and guided my hands and head to 4956 01:29:56,229 --> 01:29:56,239 down and guided my hands and head to 4957 01:29:56,239 --> 01:29:58,310 down and guided my hands and head to perform oral sex on him. I was afraid of 4958 01:29:58,310 --> 01:29:58,320 perform oral sex on him. I was afraid of 4959 01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,470 perform oral sex on him. I was afraid of denying him because of past experiences 4960 01:30:00,470 --> 01:30:00,480 denying him because of past experiences 4961 01:30:00,480 --> 01:30:02,550 denying him because of past experiences with sexual assault. So, I did it to get 4962 01:30:02,550 --> 01:30:02,560 with sexual assault. So, I did it to get 4963 01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,390 with sexual assault. So, I did it to get it over with without wanting to cause a 4964 01:30:04,390 --> 01:30:04,400 it over with without wanting to cause a 4965 01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,390 it over with without wanting to cause a problem where he would ejaculate on my 4966 01:30:06,390 --> 01:30:06,400 problem where he would ejaculate on my 4967 01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,550 problem where he would ejaculate on my face, apologize profusely, and then 4968 01:30:08,550 --> 01:30:08,560 face, apologize profusely, and then 4969 01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,709 face, apologize profusely, and then offer the same handshake as he did at 4970 01:30:10,709 --> 01:30:10,719 offer the same handshake as he did at 4971 01:30:10,719 --> 01:30:12,709 offer the same handshake as he did at the con I initially met him, saying, 4972 01:30:12,709 --> 01:30:12,719 the con I initially met him, saying, 4973 01:30:12,719 --> 01:30:14,870 the con I initially met him, saying, "Friends." Despite pretending I was 4974 01:30:14,870 --> 01:30:14,880 "Friends." Despite pretending I was 4975 01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:16,950 "Friends." Despite pretending I was fine, I had slowly begun pulling away 4976 01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:16,960 fine, I had slowly begun pulling away 4977 01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,110 fine, I had slowly begun pulling away from Saber Spark. I cried that night 4978 01:30:19,110 --> 01:30:19,120 from Saber Spark. I cried that night 4979 01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:20,870 from Saber Spark. I cried that night while staying with a friend, but waited 4980 01:30:20,870 --> 01:30:20,880 while staying with a friend, but waited 4981 01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:22,950 while staying with a friend, but waited for that friend to fall asleep so no one 4982 01:30:22,950 --> 01:30:22,960 for that friend to fall asleep so no one 4983 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,470 for that friend to fall asleep so no one could hear me, and I would cry for 4984 01:30:24,470 --> 01:30:24,480 could hear me, and I would cry for 4985 01:30:24,480 --> 01:30:26,390 could hear me, and I would cry for months, feeling ashamed of myself for 4986 01:30:26,390 --> 01:30:26,400 months, feeling ashamed of myself for 4987 01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:28,070 months, feeling ashamed of myself for putting myself in a compromising 4988 01:30:28,070 --> 01:30:28,080 putting myself in a compromising 4989 01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,470 putting myself in a compromising situation with someone I hardly knew. I 4990 01:30:30,470 --> 01:30:30,480 situation with someone I hardly knew. I 4991 01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:32,470 situation with someone I hardly knew. I had always felt taken advantage of by 4992 01:30:32,470 --> 01:30:32,480 had always felt taken advantage of by 4993 01:30:32,480 --> 01:30:34,149 had always felt taken advantage of by him and tried being friendly and 4994 01:30:34,149 --> 01:30:34,159 him and tried being friendly and 4995 01:30:34,159 --> 01:30:35,830 him and tried being friendly and pretending nothing was wrong because it 4996 01:30:35,830 --> 01:30:35,840 pretending nothing was wrong because it 4997 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,990 pretending nothing was wrong because it was all I knew how to do. I would blame 4998 01:30:37,990 --> 01:30:38,000 was all I knew how to do. I would blame 4999 01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,070 was all I knew how to do. I would blame myself for the interactions for years, 5000 01:30:40,070 --> 01:30:40,080 myself for the interactions for years, 5001 01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,229 myself for the interactions for years, only opening up to a few close people, 5002 01:30:42,229 --> 01:30:42,239 only opening up to a few close people, 5003 01:30:42,239 --> 01:30:44,229 only opening up to a few close people, questioning if consent was implied 5004 01:30:44,229 --> 01:30:44,239 questioning if consent was implied 5005 01:30:44,239 --> 01:30:46,229 questioning if consent was implied because of my crush and unwillingness 5006 01:30:46,229 --> 01:30:46,239 because of my crush and unwillingness 5007 01:30:46,239 --> 01:30:48,550 because of my crush and unwillingness and fear to outright stop the advances 5008 01:30:48,550 --> 01:30:48,560 and fear to outright stop the advances 5009 01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,629 and fear to outright stop the advances because of how uncomfortable I felt. I 5010 01:30:50,629 --> 01:30:50,639 because of how uncomfortable I felt. I 5011 01:30:50,639 --> 01:30:52,229 because of how uncomfortable I felt. I understand that there is a possibility 5012 01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:52,239 understand that there is a possibility 5013 01:30:52,239 --> 01:30:54,390 understand that there is a possibility that he felt consent was implied because 5014 01:30:54,390 --> 01:30:54,400 that he felt consent was implied because 5015 01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,310 that he felt consent was implied because he knew I had a crush on him. However, 5016 01:30:56,310 --> 01:30:56,320 he knew I had a crush on him. However, 5017 01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:59,110 he knew I had a crush on him. However, he did not once ask for consent directly 5018 01:30:59,110 --> 01:30:59,120 he did not once ask for consent directly 5019 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,030 he did not once ask for consent directly and was instead thrown into these sexual 5020 01:31:01,030 --> 01:31:01,040 and was instead thrown into these sexual 5021 01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,669 and was instead thrown into these sexual encounters, usually very suddenly. There 5022 01:31:03,669 --> 01:31:03,679 encounters, usually very suddenly. There 5023 01:31:03,679 --> 01:31:05,189 encounters, usually very suddenly. There were no discussions about the power 5024 01:31:05,189 --> 01:31:05,199 were no discussions about the power 5025 01:31:05,199 --> 01:31:07,510 were no discussions about the power dynamic between us as a popular content 5026 01:31:07,510 --> 01:31:07,520 dynamic between us as a popular content 5027 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,149 dynamic between us as a popular content creator and a fan at any time and my 5028 01:31:10,149 --> 01:31:10,159 creator and a fan at any time and my 5029 01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:12,149 creator and a fan at any time and my parasocial connection to him and not 5030 01:31:12,149 --> 01:31:12,159 parasocial connection to him and not 5031 01:31:12,159 --> 01:31:14,390 parasocial connection to him and not wanting someone I was a fan of to hate 5032 01:31:14,390 --> 01:31:14,400 wanting someone I was a fan of to hate 5033 01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,550 wanting someone I was a fan of to hate me if I rejected him, leaving me afraid 5034 01:31:16,550 --> 01:31:16,560 me if I rejected him, leaving me afraid 5035 01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,709 me if I rejected him, leaving me afraid to stop his advances. Over time, I grew 5036 01:31:18,709 --> 01:31:18,719 to stop his advances. Over time, I grew 5037 01:31:18,719 --> 01:31:20,390 to stop his advances. Over time, I grew increasingly distant and would 5038 01:31:20,390 --> 01:31:20,400 increasingly distant and would 5039 01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,950 increasingly distant and would eventually end contact completely. I 5040 01:31:22,950 --> 01:31:22,960 eventually end contact completely. I 5041 01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:24,550 eventually end contact completely. I don't feel safe enough to fully come 5042 01:31:24,550 --> 01:31:24,560 don't feel safe enough to fully come 5043 01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:26,709 don't feel safe enough to fully come forward because I don't want his fans 5044 01:31:26,709 --> 01:31:26,719 forward because I don't want his fans 5045 01:31:26,719 --> 01:31:29,750 forward because I don't want his fans and friends or even him to harass or 5046 01:31:29,750 --> 01:31:29,760 and friends or even him to harass or 5047 01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,070 and friends or even him to harass or contact me publicly. I wish to stay 5048 01:31:32,070 --> 01:31:32,080 contact me publicly. I wish to stay 5049 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,550 contact me publicly. I wish to stay anonymous so I can avoid the anxiety and 5050 01:31:34,550 --> 01:31:34,560 anonymous so I can avoid the anxiety and 5051 01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:36,950 anonymous so I can avoid the anxiety and stress of being targeted by either him, 5052 01:31:36,950 --> 01:31:36,960 stress of being targeted by either him, 5053 01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,669 stress of being targeted by either him, his friends, and especially his fans as 5054 01:31:39,669 --> 01:31:39,679 his friends, and especially his fans as 5055 01:31:39,679 --> 01:31:41,830 his friends, and especially his fans as Saber Spark has over 2 million 5056 01:31:41,830 --> 01:31:41,840 Saber Spark has over 2 million 5057 01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:44,310 Saber Spark has over 2 million subscribers. And even sharing my story 5058 01:31:44,310 --> 01:31:44,320 subscribers. And even sharing my story 5059 01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,110 subscribers. And even sharing my story at all has me feeling really afraid. I 5060 01:31:47,110 --> 01:31:47,120 at all has me feeling really afraid. I 5061 01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,270 at all has me feeling really afraid. I have seen other instances of Saber Spark 5062 01:31:49,270 --> 01:31:49,280 have seen other instances of Saber Spark 5063 01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,430 have seen other instances of Saber Spark using his enormous platform to confront 5064 01:31:51,430 --> 01:31:51,440 using his enormous platform to confront 5065 01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:53,750 using his enormous platform to confront people online. he has had conflict with. 5066 01:31:53,750 --> 01:31:53,760 people online. he has had conflict with. 5067 01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,750 people online. he has had conflict with. I have also witnessed several instances 5068 01:31:55,750 --> 01:31:55,760 I have also witnessed several instances 5069 01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,229 I have also witnessed several instances of his friends attempting to justify him 5070 01:31:58,229 --> 01:31:58,239 of his friends attempting to justify him 5071 01:31:58,239 --> 01:32:00,629 of his friends attempting to justify him and others actions. I was not made aware 5072 01:32:00,629 --> 01:32:00,639 and others actions. I was not made aware 5073 01:32:00,639 --> 01:32:02,629 and others actions. I was not made aware of his jokes about consent and his 5074 01:32:02,629 --> 01:32:02,639 of his jokes about consent and his 5075 01:32:02,639 --> 01:32:04,709 of his jokes about consent and his recent behavior involving Chris until 5076 01:32:04,709 --> 01:32:04,719 recent behavior involving Chris until 5077 01:32:04,719 --> 01:32:06,870 recent behavior involving Chris until only recently and had left my stomach in 5078 01:32:06,870 --> 01:32:06,880 only recently and had left my stomach in 5079 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:09,590 only recently and had left my stomach in knots. I please ask above all else for 5080 01:32:09,590 --> 01:32:09,600 knots. I please ask above all else for 5081 01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:11,910 knots. I please ask above all else for my privacy to be respected. I don't wish 5082 01:32:11,910 --> 01:32:11,920 my privacy to be respected. I don't wish 5083 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:13,510 my privacy to be respected. I don't wish to publicly defend my personal 5084 01:32:13,510 --> 01:32:13,520 to publicly defend my personal 5085 01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,070 to publicly defend my personal experience and just wish to share my 5086 01:32:16,070 --> 01:32:16,080 experience and just wish to share my 5087 01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:17,669 experience and just wish to share my experience. 5088 01:32:17,669 --> 01:32:17,679 experience. 5089 01:32:17,679 --> 01:32:19,350 experience. So, welcome to the video where we break 5090 01:32:19,350 --> 01:32:19,360 So, welcome to the video where we break 5091 01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:20,790 So, welcome to the video where we break this down a little bit more and talk 5092 01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:20,800 this down a little bit more and talk 5093 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,430 this down a little bit more and talk about what is consent because yeah, it's 5094 01:32:23,430 --> 01:32:23,440 about what is consent because yeah, it's 5095 01:32:23,440 --> 01:32:25,270 about what is consent because yeah, it's an important discussion here. So, 5096 01:32:25,270 --> 01:32:25,280 an important discussion here. So, 5097 01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:26,790 an important discussion here. So, because this is a really serious 5098 01:32:26,790 --> 01:32:26,800 because this is a really serious 5099 01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:28,709 because this is a really serious conversation and I know almost nothing 5100 01:32:28,709 --> 01:32:28,719 conversation and I know almost nothing 5101 01:32:28,719 --> 01:32:31,910 conversation and I know almost nothing about sexual assault, I invited Courtney 5102 01:32:31,910 --> 01:32:31,920 about sexual assault, I invited Courtney 5103 01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,629 about sexual assault, I invited Courtney again. She's all over this video to talk 5104 01:32:34,629 --> 01:32:34,639 again. She's all over this video to talk 5105 01:32:34,639 --> 01:32:37,270 again. She's all over this video to talk about like what is consent and when's 5106 01:32:37,270 --> 01:32:37,280 about like what is consent and when's 5107 01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,110 about like what is consent and when's consent is there and when it's not 5108 01:32:39,110 --> 01:32:39,120 consent is there and when it's not 5109 01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:42,070 consent is there and when it's not there. Um, it's it's we're having a 5110 01:32:42,070 --> 01:32:42,080 there. Um, it's it's we're having a 5111 01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,550 there. Um, it's it's we're having a great time here at the the the worst 5112 01:32:44,550 --> 01:32:44,560 great time here at the the the worst 5113 01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,629 great time here at the the the worst video ever and just kind of break it 5114 01:32:46,629 --> 01:32:46,639 video ever and just kind of break it 5115 01:32:46,639 --> 01:32:49,030 video ever and just kind of break it down so we have a better understanding. 5116 01:32:49,030 --> 01:32:49,040 down so we have a better understanding. 5117 01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:50,629 down so we have a better understanding. And all you nerds out there, don't do 5118 01:32:50,629 --> 01:32:50,639 And all you nerds out there, don't do 5119 01:32:50,639 --> 01:32:52,390 And all you nerds out there, don't do something really really bad like this. 5120 01:32:52,390 --> 01:32:52,400 something really really bad like this. 5121 01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:54,510 something really really bad like this. Um, don't do it, guys. 5122 01:32:54,510 --> 01:32:54,520 Um, don't do it, guys. 5123 01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:58,110 Um, don't do it, guys. Don't don't do it. Hi again, Courtney. 5124 01:32:58,110 --> 01:32:58,120 Don't don't do it. Hi again, Courtney. 5125 01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,390 Don't don't do it. Hi again, Courtney. Welcome. You'll be in the video 5126 01:33:00,390 --> 01:33:00,400 Welcome. You'll be in the video 5127 01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,790 Welcome. You'll be in the video everywhere at this point. Hello 5128 01:33:02,790 --> 01:33:02,800 everywhere at this point. Hello 5129 01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:06,270 everywhere at this point. Hello everybody. It is I. I have returned once 5130 01:33:06,270 --> 01:33:06,280 everybody. It is I. I have returned once 5131 01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:09,590 everybody. It is I. I have returned once again. So happy to be here. 5132 01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:09,600 again. So happy to be here. 5133 01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,750 again. So happy to be here. So, I've shown you the testimony at this 5134 01:33:11,750 --> 01:33:11,760 So, I've shown you the testimony at this 5135 01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,550 So, I've shown you the testimony at this point. Um, what what are your general 5136 01:33:14,550 --> 01:33:14,560 point. Um, what what are your general 5137 01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:20,629 point. Um, what what are your general vibes on it besides icky and um sad and 5138 01:33:20,629 --> 01:33:20,639 vibes on it besides icky and um sad and 5139 01:33:20,639 --> 01:33:22,629 vibes on it besides icky and um sad and I I I don't know. This is just like 5140 01:33:22,629 --> 01:33:22,639 I I I don't know. This is just like 5141 01:33:22,639 --> 01:33:24,350 I I I don't know. This is just like super triggering to me 5142 01:33:24,350 --> 01:33:24,360 super triggering to me 5143 01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,950 super triggering to me cuz Yeah. So, I thought I'd also bring 5144 01:33:26,950 --> 01:33:26,960 cuz Yeah. So, I thought I'd also bring 5145 01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,110 cuz Yeah. So, I thought I'd also bring you in there, bring you in here to to 5146 01:33:29,110 --> 01:33:29,120 you in there, bring you in here to to 5147 01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,229 you in there, bring you in here to to hold my hand during this. But 5148 01:33:31,229 --> 01:33:31,239 hold my hand during this. But 5149 01:33:31,239 --> 01:33:34,070 hold my hand during this. But yeah. Yeah. In terms of the testimony, 5150 01:33:34,070 --> 01:33:34,080 yeah. Yeah. In terms of the testimony, 5151 01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:35,910 yeah. Yeah. In terms of the testimony, it's just it's just kind of 5152 01:33:35,910 --> 01:33:35,920 it's just it's just kind of 5153 01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,470 it's just it's just kind of heartbreaking really. Uh it's just it's 5154 01:33:38,470 --> 01:33:38,480 heartbreaking really. Uh it's just it's 5155 01:33:38,480 --> 01:33:40,310 heartbreaking really. Uh it's just it's always heartbreaking to me when people 5156 01:33:40,310 --> 01:33:40,320 always heartbreaking to me when people 5157 01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:42,470 always heartbreaking to me when people question their own sexual assault just 5158 01:33:42,470 --> 01:33:42,480 question their own sexual assault just 5159 01:33:42,480 --> 01:33:46,350 question their own sexual assault just because of the lack of education around 5160 01:33:46,350 --> 01:33:46,360 5161 01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,270 it. And like something that I just want 5162 01:33:49,270 --> 01:33:49,280 it. And like something that I just want 5163 01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,350 it. And like something that I just want to say to anybody out there 5164 01:33:52,350 --> 01:33:52,360 to say to anybody out there 5165 01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:55,590 to say to anybody out there is a consensual sexual encounter is 5166 01:33:55,590 --> 01:33:55,600 is a consensual sexual encounter is 5167 01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:57,790 is a consensual sexual encounter is never something you're going to question 5168 01:33:57,790 --> 01:33:57,800 never something you're going to question 5169 01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:01,750 never something you're going to question afterwards. Okay? Like you just don't 5170 01:34:01,750 --> 01:34:01,760 afterwards. Okay? Like you just don't 5171 01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,550 afterwards. Okay? Like you just don't question a consensual encounter. Sure, 5172 01:34:04,550 --> 01:34:04,560 question a consensual encounter. Sure, 5173 01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,310 question a consensual encounter. Sure, you may have a consensual encounter 5174 01:34:06,310 --> 01:34:06,320 you may have a consensual encounter 5175 01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:07,550 you may have a consensual encounter that's 5176 01:34:07,550 --> 01:34:07,560 that's 5177 01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:09,830 that's unsatisfying. You may have one that you, 5178 01:34:09,830 --> 01:34:09,840 unsatisfying. You may have one that you, 5179 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,830 unsatisfying. You may have one that you, you know, regret that might, you may 5180 01:34:11,830 --> 01:34:11,840 you know, regret that might, you may 5181 01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:13,750 you know, regret that might, you may look back on one and go, you know, if I 5182 01:34:13,750 --> 01:34:13,760 look back on one and go, you know, if I 5183 01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:16,270 look back on one and go, you know, if I can make that decision again, I probably 5184 01:34:16,270 --> 01:34:16,280 can make that decision again, I probably 5185 01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,590 can make that decision again, I probably wouldn't. 5186 01:34:18,590 --> 01:34:18,600 wouldn't. 5187 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:22,149 wouldn't. But people don't question consensual 5188 01:34:22,149 --> 01:34:22,159 But people don't question consensual 5189 01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:25,310 But people don't question consensual sexual experiences with did I just get 5190 01:34:25,310 --> 01:34:25,320 sexual experiences with did I just get 5191 01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:28,990 sexual experiences with did I just get violated to be quite 5192 01:34:28,990 --> 01:34:29,000 5193 01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:32,149 honest. And like the other thing that 5194 01:34:32,149 --> 01:34:32,159 honest. And like the other thing that 5195 01:34:32,159 --> 01:34:34,350 honest. And like the other thing that kind of breaks my heart 5196 01:34:34,350 --> 01:34:34,360 kind of breaks my heart 5197 01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,189 kind of breaks my heart is there's one point in her testimony 5198 01:34:37,189 --> 01:34:37,199 is there's one point in her testimony 5199 01:34:37,199 --> 01:34:39,910 is there's one point in her testimony where where she questions if I if I'm 5200 01:34:39,910 --> 01:34:39,920 where where she questions if I if I'm 5201 01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:41,750 where where she questions if I if I'm remembering this correctly that like 5202 01:34:41,750 --> 01:34:41,760 remembering this correctly that like 5203 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:43,430 remembering this correctly that like maybe she was at fault because she had a 5204 01:34:43,430 --> 01:34:43,440 maybe she was at fault because she had a 5205 01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:45,270 maybe she was at fault because she had a crush on him. Like maybe she gave the 5206 01:34:45,270 --> 01:34:45,280 crush on him. Like maybe she gave the 5207 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,270 crush on him. Like maybe she gave the wrong signal or something. Maybe she 5208 01:34:47,270 --> 01:34:47,280 wrong signal or something. Maybe she 5209 01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:49,830 wrong signal or something. Maybe she implied something or he thought consent 5210 01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:49,840 implied something or he thought consent 5211 01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:51,590 implied something or he thought consent was implied because he knew there was a 5212 01:34:51,590 --> 01:34:51,600 was implied because he knew there was a 5213 01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,950 was implied because he knew there was a crush on her. 5214 01:34:53,950 --> 01:34:53,960 crush on her. 5215 01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:57,750 crush on her. Like in in all honesty, consent is never 5216 01:34:57,750 --> 01:34:57,760 Like in in all honesty, consent is never 5217 01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,430 Like in in all honesty, consent is never implied. 5218 01:34:59,430 --> 01:34:59,440 implied. 5219 01:34:59,440 --> 01:35:02,470 implied. Like even even secure, confident 5220 01:35:02,470 --> 01:35:02,480 Like even even secure, confident 5221 01:35:02,480 --> 01:35:05,830 Like even even secure, confident individuals in a in a sexual encounter 5222 01:35:05,830 --> 01:35:05,840 individuals in a in a sexual encounter 5223 01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:08,629 individuals in a in a sexual encounter will check in with their partner as 5224 01:35:08,629 --> 01:35:08,639 will check in with their partner as 5225 01:35:08,639 --> 01:35:11,270 will check in with their partner as things escalate and change gears and and 5226 01:35:11,270 --> 01:35:11,280 things escalate and change gears and and 5227 01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:13,030 things escalate and change gears and and they'll say things like, you know, are 5228 01:35:13,030 --> 01:35:13,040 they'll say things like, you know, are 5229 01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,990 they'll say things like, you know, are you okay? Should we keep going? Is this 5230 01:35:15,990 --> 01:35:16,000 you okay? Should we keep going? Is this 5231 01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:19,430 you okay? Should we keep going? Is this good? Like because consent is not 5232 01:35:19,430 --> 01:35:19,440 good? Like because consent is not 5233 01:35:19,440 --> 01:35:21,830 good? Like because consent is not something that is implied. It's never 5234 01:35:21,830 --> 01:35:21,840 something that is implied. It's never 5235 01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:24,950 something that is implied. It's never something that's implied. 5236 01:35:24,950 --> 01:35:24,960 something that's implied. 5237 01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:28,229 something that's implied. It's it's not you know an absence of a 5238 01:35:28,229 --> 01:35:28,239 It's it's not you know an absence of a 5239 01:35:28,239 --> 01:35:31,830 It's it's not you know an absence of a no is not a yes in any regard. An 5240 01:35:31,830 --> 01:35:31,840 no is not a yes in any regard. An 5241 01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,070 no is not a yes in any regard. An absence of 5242 01:35:34,070 --> 01:35:34,080 absence of 5243 01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:38,390 absence of uh resistance is not compliance. And 5244 01:35:38,390 --> 01:35:38,400 uh resistance is not compliance. And 5245 01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:41,189 uh resistance is not compliance. And even in that regard compliance is not an 5246 01:35:41,189 --> 01:35:41,199 even in that regard compliance is not an 5247 01:35:41,199 --> 01:35:44,310 even in that regard compliance is not an invitation. Mhm. Because this girl had a 5248 01:35:44,310 --> 01:35:44,320 invitation. Mhm. Because this girl had a 5249 01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,830 invitation. Mhm. Because this girl had a crush on Saber. It was okay that he just 5250 01:35:47,830 --> 01:35:47,840 crush on Saber. It was okay that he just 5251 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,790 crush on Saber. It was okay that he just kind of initiated things. And then 5252 01:35:50,790 --> 01:35:50,800 kind of initiated things. And then 5253 01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,350 kind of initiated things. And then especially too in the elevator in a 5254 01:35:53,350 --> 01:35:53,360 especially too in the elevator in a 5255 01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,310 especially too in the elevator in a public space when he's just much larger 5256 01:35:56,310 --> 01:35:56,320 public space when he's just much larger 5257 01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:59,750 public space when he's just much larger than her like physically. I don't know. 5258 01:35:59,750 --> 01:35:59,760 than her like physically. I don't know. 5259 01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,070 than her like physically. I don't know. It's it's all icky. But like what what 5260 01:36:02,070 --> 01:36:02,080 It's it's all icky. But like what what 5261 01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,229 It's it's all icky. But like what what would you define consent as? And when 5262 01:36:04,229 --> 01:36:04,239 would you define consent as? And when 5263 01:36:04,239 --> 01:36:08,229 would you define consent as? And when would you define like obviously this 5264 01:36:08,229 --> 01:36:08,239 would you define like obviously this 5265 01:36:08,239 --> 01:36:11,270 would you define like obviously this isn't it for sure, but go ahead. And in 5266 01:36:11,270 --> 01:36:11,280 isn't it for sure, but go ahead. And in 5267 01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:13,189 isn't it for sure, but go ahead. And in terms of like a definition of consent 5268 01:36:13,189 --> 01:36:13,199 terms of like a definition of consent 5269 01:36:13,199 --> 01:36:15,830 terms of like a definition of consent and what it is and what it isn't, um 5270 01:36:15,830 --> 01:36:15,840 and what it is and what it isn't, um 5271 01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:20,870 and what it is and what it isn't, um consent is an excited yes. consent is 5272 01:36:20,870 --> 01:36:20,880 consent is an excited yes. consent is 5273 01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,229 consent is an excited yes. consent is exuberant 5274 01:36:23,229 --> 01:36:23,239 exuberant 5275 01:36:23,239 --> 01:36:26,390 exuberant um what's the word I'm looking for um 5276 01:36:26,390 --> 01:36:26,400 um what's the word I'm looking for um 5277 01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,390 um what's the word I'm looking for um payback for lack of a better term I 5278 01:36:28,390 --> 01:36:28,400 payback for lack of a better term I 5279 01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:29,390 payback for lack of a better term I guess 5280 01:36:29,390 --> 01:36:29,400 guess 5281 01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:31,990 guess like two people in a consensual 5282 01:36:31,990 --> 01:36:32,000 like two people in a consensual 5283 01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,870 like two people in a consensual encounter engage in a give and take like 5284 01:36:34,870 --> 01:36:34,880 encounter engage in a give and take like 5285 01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:38,149 encounter engage in a give and take like it's never just one person doing all of 5286 01:36:38,149 --> 01:36:38,159 it's never just one person doing all of 5287 01:36:38,159 --> 01:36:40,470 it's never just one person doing all of the action and the other person just 5288 01:36:40,470 --> 01:36:40,480 the action and the other person just 5289 01:36:40,480 --> 01:36:43,910 the action and the other person just laying there like like a bump on a log 5290 01:36:43,910 --> 01:36:43,920 laying there like like a bump on a log 5291 01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:46,390 laying there like like a bump on a log you know it's an action that two people 5292 01:36:46,390 --> 01:36:46,400 you know it's an action that two people 5293 01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,189 you know it's an action that two people engage in when it's consensual 5294 01:36:49,189 --> 01:36:49,199 engage in when it's consensual 5295 01:36:49,199 --> 01:36:52,870 engage in when it's consensual Um, nine times out of 10 when it's one 5296 01:36:52,870 --> 01:36:52,880 Um, nine times out of 10 when it's one 5297 01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:56,709 Um, nine times out of 10 when it's one person just using another person's body 5298 01:36:56,709 --> 01:36:56,719 person just using another person's body 5299 01:36:56,719 --> 01:36:57,950 person just using another person's body for sexual 5300 01:36:57,950 --> 01:36:57,960 for sexual 5301 01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,950 for sexual gratification, that's not a consensual 5302 01:37:00,950 --> 01:37:00,960 gratification, that's not a consensual 5303 01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,390 gratification, that's not a consensual encounter. That is just a violation of 5304 01:37:04,390 --> 01:37:04,400 encounter. That is just a violation of 5305 01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:08,310 encounter. That is just a violation of somebody's person. And it's actually 5306 01:37:08,310 --> 01:37:08,320 somebody's person. And it's actually 5307 01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:12,550 somebody's person. And it's actually pretty common for like sexual aggressors 5308 01:37:12,550 --> 01:37:12,560 pretty common for like sexual aggressors 5309 01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:15,750 pretty common for like sexual aggressors to attack somebody like in a in a 5310 01:37:15,750 --> 01:37:15,760 to attack somebody like in a in a 5311 01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:18,030 to attack somebody like in a in a innocuous sort of sense like in the 5312 01:37:18,030 --> 01:37:18,040 innocuous sort of sense like in the 5313 01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,109 innocuous sort of sense like in the elevator, especially at like a 5314 01:37:20,109 --> 01:37:20,119 elevator, especially at like a 5315 01:37:20,119 --> 01:37:22,310 elevator, especially at like a convention or something like that in 5316 01:37:22,310 --> 01:37:22,320 convention or something like that in 5317 01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:23,310 convention or something like that in public 5318 01:37:23,310 --> 01:37:23,320 public 5319 01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:27,830 public because it sort of um dissuades the the 5320 01:37:27,830 --> 01:37:27,840 because it sort of um dissuades the the 5321 01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,229 because it sort of um dissuades the the the target or the victim from actually 5322 01:37:30,229 --> 01:37:30,239 the target or the victim from actually 5323 01:37:30,239 --> 01:37:33,270 the target or the victim from actually saying anything because like half the 5324 01:37:33,270 --> 01:37:33,280 saying anything because like half the 5325 01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:35,430 saying anything because like half the time people will think, well, this is 5326 01:37:35,430 --> 01:37:35,440 time people will think, well, this is 5327 01:37:35,440 --> 01:37:37,510 time people will think, well, this is being done in public. Surely somebody's 5328 01:37:37,510 --> 01:37:37,520 being done in public. Surely somebody's 5329 01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:39,430 being done in public. Surely somebody's going to say something so I don't have 5330 01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:39,440 going to say something so I don't have 5331 01:37:39,440 --> 01:37:42,070 going to say something so I don't have to. But the other part of them doesn't 5332 01:37:42,070 --> 01:37:42,080 to. But the other part of them doesn't 5333 01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,790 to. But the other part of them doesn't want to cause a scene and be embarrassed 5334 01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:44,800 want to cause a scene and be embarrassed 5335 01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:46,550 want to cause a scene and be embarrassed because they're already embarrassed by 5336 01:37:46,550 --> 01:37:46,560 because they're already embarrassed by 5337 01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,390 because they're already embarrassed by the fact that they're being attacked. 5338 01:37:48,390 --> 01:37:48,400 the fact that they're being attacked. 5339 01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,870 the fact that they're being attacked. The fact that PDA in general is seen as 5340 01:37:50,870 --> 01:37:50,880 The fact that PDA in general is seen as 5341 01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:52,629 The fact that PDA in general is seen as like a sort of cringy embarrassing 5342 01:37:52,629 --> 01:37:52,639 like a sort of cringy embarrassing 5343 01:37:52,639 --> 01:37:54,790 like a sort of cringy embarrassing thing. And like they don't want to draw 5344 01:37:54,790 --> 01:37:54,800 thing. And like they don't want to draw 5345 01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:56,109 thing. And like they don't want to draw more attention to 5346 01:37:56,109 --> 01:37:56,119 more attention to 5347 01:37:56,119 --> 01:37:58,470 more attention to themselves, especially while they're 5348 01:37:58,470 --> 01:37:58,480 themselves, especially while they're 5349 01:37:58,480 --> 01:38:00,189 themselves, especially while they're dealing with the fact that they're being 5350 01:38:00,189 --> 01:38:00,199 dealing with the fact that they're being 5351 01:38:00,199 --> 01:38:03,030 dealing with the fact that they're being attacked. And part of them just hopes 5352 01:38:03,030 --> 01:38:03,040 attacked. And part of them just hopes 5353 01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,030 attacked. And part of them just hopes that somebody's going to do it anyway. 5354 01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:05,040 that somebody's going to do it anyway. 5355 01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:06,870 that somebody's going to do it anyway. like like step in and say something 5356 01:38:06,870 --> 01:38:06,880 like like step in and say something 5357 01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,149 like like step in and say something anyway. And the problem with with the 5358 01:38:10,149 --> 01:38:10,159 anyway. And the problem with with the 5359 01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:12,070 anyway. And the problem with with the public the general public is they sort 5360 01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:12,080 public the general public is they sort 5361 01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:13,910 public the general public is they sort of fall into the someone else will deal 5362 01:38:13,910 --> 01:38:13,920 of fall into the someone else will deal 5363 01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,550 of fall into the someone else will deal with it mentality whereas everybody sort 5364 01:38:16,550 --> 01:38:16,560 with it mentality whereas everybody sort 5365 01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,629 with it mentality whereas everybody sort of assumes that somebody else is going 5366 01:38:18,629 --> 01:38:18,639 of assumes that somebody else is going 5367 01:38:18,639 --> 01:38:20,950 of assumes that somebody else is going to step in and say something so they 5368 01:38:20,950 --> 01:38:20,960 to step in and say something so they 5369 01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,470 to step in and say something so they therefore then 5370 01:38:23,470 --> 01:38:23,480 therefore then 5371 01:38:23,480 --> 01:38:25,669 therefore then won't. Well, the other thing I wanted to 5372 01:38:25,669 --> 01:38:25,679 won't. Well, the other thing I wanted to 5373 01:38:25,679 --> 01:38:28,310 won't. Well, the other thing I wanted to throw in there too is um nothing that's 5374 01:38:28,310 --> 01:38:28,320 throw in there too is um nothing that's 5375 01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:30,310 throw in there too is um nothing that's illegal, but kind of the parasocial 5376 01:38:30,310 --> 01:38:30,320 illegal, but kind of the parasocial 5377 01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,590 illegal, but kind of the parasocial relationship of like, you know, it's 5378 01:38:32,590 --> 01:38:32,600 relationship of like, you know, it's 5379 01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,189 relationship of like, you know, it's always it seems like it's a common thing 5380 01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:35,199 always it seems like it's a common thing 5381 01:38:35,199 --> 01:38:37,510 always it seems like it's a common thing where like, you know, back in the day 5382 01:38:37,510 --> 01:38:37,520 where like, you know, back in the day 5383 01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:38,790 where like, you know, back in the day rock stars would sleep with their 5384 01:38:38,790 --> 01:38:38,800 rock stars would sleep with their 5385 01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:40,470 rock stars would sleep with their groupies kind of thing, but now it's 5386 01:38:40,470 --> 01:38:40,480 groupies kind of thing, but now it's 5387 01:38:40,480 --> 01:38:41,390 groupies kind of thing, but now it's kind of 5388 01:38:41,390 --> 01:38:41,400 kind of 5389 01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:44,950 kind of more discussed that that's a paradic 5390 01:38:44,950 --> 01:38:44,960 more discussed that that's a paradic 5391 01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,510 more discussed that that's a paradic that shouldn't really be abused. And 5392 01:38:47,510 --> 01:38:47,520 that shouldn't really be abused. And 5393 01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:48,950 that shouldn't really be abused. And especially when you don't really know 5394 01:38:48,950 --> 01:38:48,960 especially when you don't really know 5395 01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:51,669 especially when you don't really know someone in person, you know, like um 5396 01:38:51,669 --> 01:38:51,679 someone in person, you know, like um 5397 01:38:51,679 --> 01:38:53,910 someone in person, you know, like um from the testimony, this is her first 5398 01:38:53,910 --> 01:38:53,920 from the testimony, this is her first 5399 01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,350 from the testimony, this is her first time in person with 5400 01:38:56,350 --> 01:38:56,360 time in person with 5401 01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:59,270 time in person with Saber and he immediately jumps, not 5402 01:38:59,270 --> 01:38:59,280 Saber and he immediately jumps, not 5403 01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:00,629 Saber and he immediately jumps, not immediately, but he pretty much 5404 01:39:00,629 --> 01:39:00,639 immediately, but he pretty much 5405 01:39:00,639 --> 01:39:03,430 immediately, but he pretty much immediately jumps on her. So that also 5406 01:39:03,430 --> 01:39:03,440 immediately jumps on her. So that also 5407 01:39:03,440 --> 01:39:05,990 immediately jumps on her. So that also kind of gave me a big ick. Any thoughts 5408 01:39:05,990 --> 01:39:06,000 kind of gave me a big ick. Any thoughts 5409 01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:07,430 kind of gave me a big ick. Any thoughts on that? 5410 01:39:07,430 --> 01:39:07,440 on that? 5411 01:39:07,440 --> 01:39:09,990 on that? And one other thing I wanted to add in 5412 01:39:09,990 --> 01:39:10,000 And one other thing I wanted to add in 5413 01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:13,430 And one other thing I wanted to add in is that, you know, confident individuals 5414 01:39:13,430 --> 01:39:13,440 is that, you know, confident individuals 5415 01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:14,830 is that, you know, confident individuals in a sexual 5416 01:39:14,830 --> 01:39:14,840 in a sexual 5417 01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,510 in a sexual encounter don't have to assume that 5418 01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:17,520 encounter don't have to assume that 5419 01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:20,950 encounter don't have to assume that consent is there because they will ask. 5420 01:39:20,950 --> 01:39:20,960 consent is there because they will ask. 5421 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:24,310 consent is there because they will ask. And to be honest, the only time you're 5422 01:39:24,310 --> 01:39:24,320 And to be honest, the only time you're 5423 01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:27,669 And to be honest, the only time you're not asking or checking for consent is 5424 01:39:27,669 --> 01:39:27,679 not asking or checking for consent is 5425 01:39:27,679 --> 01:39:31,109 not asking or checking for consent is because you know yourself that the yes 5426 01:39:31,109 --> 01:39:31,119 because you know yourself that the yes 5427 01:39:31,119 --> 01:39:34,149 because you know yourself that the yes is not there and you don't want to hear 5428 01:39:34,149 --> 01:39:34,159 is not there and you don't want to hear 5429 01:39:34,159 --> 01:39:37,830 is not there and you don't want to hear the no. So you will not ask. Okay? 5430 01:39:37,830 --> 01:39:37,840 the no. So you will not ask. Okay? 5431 01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,470 the no. So you will not ask. Okay? Because if you think consent is complied 5432 01:39:40,470 --> 01:39:40,480 Because if you think consent is complied 5433 01:39:40,480 --> 01:39:42,950 Because if you think consent is complied and you think the person that is, you 5434 01:39:42,950 --> 01:39:42,960 and you think the person that is, you 5435 01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:46,350 and you think the person that is, you know, on the other end of it is actively 5436 01:39:46,350 --> 01:39:46,360 know, on the other end of it is actively 5437 01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:48,550 know, on the other end of it is actively participating, if you know the answer is 5438 01:39:48,550 --> 01:39:48,560 participating, if you know the answer is 5439 01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:50,550 participating, if you know the answer is going to be yes, then what do you have 5440 01:39:50,550 --> 01:39:50,560 going to be yes, then what do you have 5441 01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,990 going to be yes, then what do you have to lose by just asking and being a 5442 01:39:53,990 --> 01:39:54,000 to lose by just asking and being a 5443 01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:56,149 to lose by just asking and being a responsible individual when it comes to 5444 01:39:56,149 --> 01:39:56,159 responsible individual when it comes to 5445 01:39:56,159 --> 01:40:00,310 responsible individual when it comes to sexual practice and just asking? And the 5446 01:40:00,310 --> 01:40:00,320 sexual practice and just asking? And the 5447 01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:01,390 sexual practice and just asking? And the difference 5448 01:40:01,390 --> 01:40:01,400 difference 5449 01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,910 difference between like rock stars sleeping with 5450 01:40:04,910 --> 01:40:04,920 between like rock stars sleeping with 5451 01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,669 between like rock stars sleeping with groupies comes down to like literally 5452 01:40:07,669 --> 01:40:07,679 groupies comes down to like literally 5453 01:40:07,679 --> 01:40:09,990 groupies comes down to like literally consent. Like the there's a big 5454 01:40:09,990 --> 01:40:10,000 consent. Like the there's a big 5455 01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,950 consent. Like the there's a big difference between, you know, the chick 5456 01:40:12,950 --> 01:40:12,960 difference between, you know, the chick 5457 01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,189 difference between, you know, the chick who's going to see the rockstar perform 5458 01:40:15,189 --> 01:40:15,199 who's going to see the rockstar perform 5459 01:40:15,199 --> 01:40:17,910 who's going to see the rockstar perform and like flashing her titties while he's 5460 01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:17,920 and like flashing her titties while he's 5461 01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,390 and like flashing her titties while he's performing and then going and flashing 5462 01:40:20,390 --> 01:40:20,400 performing and then going and flashing 5463 01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:21,990 performing and then going and flashing her titties to the bouncer to get 5464 01:40:21,990 --> 01:40:22,000 her titties to the bouncer to get 5465 01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,470 her titties to the bouncer to get backstage and then flashing her titties 5466 01:40:24,470 --> 01:40:24,480 backstage and then flashing her titties 5467 01:40:24,480 --> 01:40:26,229 backstage and then flashing her titties in the rockstar's face. probably making 5468 01:40:26,229 --> 01:40:26,239 in the rockstar's face. probably making 5469 01:40:26,239 --> 01:40:28,070 in the rockstar's face. probably making out with him a bit of her own valition 5470 01:40:28,070 --> 01:40:28,080 out with him a bit of her own valition 5471 01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:29,750 out with him a bit of her own valition and one of them saying, "Hey, let's go 5472 01:40:29,750 --> 01:40:29,760 and one of them saying, "Hey, let's go 5473 01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:32,149 and one of them saying, "Hey, let's go back and sleep in the van." Like there 5474 01:40:32,149 --> 01:40:32,159 back and sleep in the van." Like there 5475 01:40:32,159 --> 01:40:34,629 back and sleep in the van." Like there are multiple instances where consent is 5476 01:40:34,629 --> 01:40:34,639 are multiple instances where consent is 5477 01:40:34,639 --> 01:40:37,030 are multiple instances where consent is very very clearly given by the groupy 5478 01:40:37,030 --> 01:40:37,040 very very clearly given by the groupy 5479 01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:39,189 very very clearly given by the groupy sleeping with the rockstar. And like 5480 01:40:39,189 --> 01:40:39,199 sleeping with the rockstar. And like 5481 01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:40,709 sleeping with the rockstar. And like yeah, there may be a certain power 5482 01:40:40,709 --> 01:40:40,719 yeah, there may be a certain power 5483 01:40:40,719 --> 01:40:43,669 yeah, there may be a certain power dynamic and like there absolutely is 5484 01:40:43,669 --> 01:40:43,679 dynamic and like there absolutely is 5485 01:40:43,679 --> 01:40:46,550 dynamic and like there absolutely is multiple instances of rock stars abusing 5486 01:40:46,550 --> 01:40:46,560 multiple instances of rock stars abusing 5487 01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,470 multiple instances of rock stars abusing that to be like, "Hey, well, I'm famous. 5488 01:40:48,470 --> 01:40:48,480 that to be like, "Hey, well, I'm famous. 5489 01:40:48,480 --> 01:40:50,149 that to be like, "Hey, well, I'm famous. Show me your titties." But there's a big 5490 01:40:50,149 --> 01:40:50,159 Show me your titties." But there's a big 5491 01:40:50,159 --> 01:40:51,430 Show me your titties." But there's a big difference between going, "Hey, I'm 5492 01:40:51,430 --> 01:40:51,440 difference between going, "Hey, I'm 5493 01:40:51,440 --> 01:40:53,189 difference between going, "Hey, I'm famous. Show me your titties." and 5494 01:40:53,189 --> 01:40:53,199 famous. Show me your titties." and 5495 01:40:53,199 --> 01:40:54,950 famous. Show me your titties." and someone going, "I'm showing you my 5496 01:40:54,950 --> 01:40:54,960 someone going, "I'm showing you my 5497 01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:56,750 someone going, "I'm showing you my titties because I want to sleep with 5498 01:40:56,750 --> 01:40:56,760 titties because I want to sleep with 5499 01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,590 titties because I want to sleep with you." Right? Like just just the act of 5500 01:40:59,590 --> 01:40:59,600 you." Right? Like just just the act of 5501 01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,470 you." Right? Like just just the act of like basically showing you my titties is 5502 01:41:02,470 --> 01:41:02,480 like basically showing you my titties is 5503 01:41:02,480 --> 01:41:05,590 like basically showing you my titties is in in most circumstances an invitation 5504 01:41:05,590 --> 01:41:05,600 in in most circumstances an invitation 5505 01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:07,629 in in most circumstances an invitation to touch my body. 5506 01:41:07,629 --> 01:41:07,639 to touch my body. 5507 01:41:07,639 --> 01:41:10,950 to touch my body. Okay. In no way is I'm a big fan of 5508 01:41:10,950 --> 01:41:10,960 Okay. In no way is I'm a big fan of 5509 01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,830 Okay. In no way is I'm a big fan of yours an invitation to touch somebody's 5510 01:41:13,830 --> 01:41:13,840 yours an invitation to touch somebody's 5511 01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,550 yours an invitation to touch somebody's body. And I also find it really, really 5512 01:41:16,550 --> 01:41:16,560 body. And I also find it really, really 5513 01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,149 body. And I also find it really, really weird that this dude meets a 5514 01:41:19,149 --> 01:41:19,159 weird that this dude meets a 5515 01:41:19,159 --> 01:41:22,070 weird that this dude meets a fan, gets the inkling she has a crush on 5516 01:41:22,070 --> 01:41:22,080 fan, gets the inkling she has a crush on 5517 01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:26,030 fan, gets the inkling she has a crush on him, so he invites her back to his hotel 5518 01:41:26,030 --> 01:41:26,040 him, so he invites her back to his hotel 5519 01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:28,550 him, so he invites her back to his hotel room. Okay? Like, getting invited back 5520 01:41:28,550 --> 01:41:28,560 room. Okay? Like, getting invited back 5521 01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:30,990 room. Okay? Like, getting invited back to the hotel room has sexual 5522 01:41:30,990 --> 01:41:31,000 to the hotel room has sexual 5523 01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:33,109 to the hotel room has sexual connotations. And the fact that she 5524 01:41:33,109 --> 01:41:33,119 connotations. And the fact that she 5525 01:41:33,119 --> 01:41:35,590 connotations. And the fact that she didn't realize that just shows how naive 5526 01:41:35,590 --> 01:41:35,600 didn't realize that just shows how naive 5527 01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,830 didn't realize that just shows how naive she was. and the fact that none of that 5528 01:41:37,830 --> 01:41:37,840 she was. and the fact that none of that 5529 01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:41,750 she was. and the fact that none of that was communicated because clearly he knew 5530 01:41:41,750 --> 01:41:41,760 was communicated because clearly he knew 5531 01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:43,669 was communicated because clearly he knew what he was inviting her back to the 5532 01:41:43,669 --> 01:41:43,679 what he was inviting her back to the 5533 01:41:43,679 --> 01:41:46,350 what he was inviting her back to the hotel room for, but she 5534 01:41:46,350 --> 01:41:46,360 hotel room for, but she 5535 01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:48,950 hotel room for, but she didn't. And that just gives me like 5536 01:41:48,950 --> 01:41:48,960 didn't. And that just gives me like 5537 01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:51,430 didn't. And that just gives me like major the major ick to be quite honest 5538 01:41:51,430 --> 01:41:51,440 major the major ick to be quite honest 5539 01:41:51,440 --> 01:41:52,350 major the major ick to be quite honest because 5540 01:41:52,350 --> 01:41:52,360 because 5541 01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:55,030 because like it's really as if Saber is acting 5542 01:41:55,030 --> 01:41:55,040 like it's really as if Saber is acting 5543 01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,350 like it's really as if Saber is acting like he's Jean Simmons inviting you back 5544 01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:57,360 like he's Jean Simmons inviting you back 5545 01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:00,470 like he's Jean Simmons inviting you back to you know the the hotel room when in 5546 01:42:00,470 --> 01:42:00,480 to you know the the hotel room when in 5547 01:42:00,480 --> 01:42:02,270 to you know the the hotel room when in reality 5548 01:42:02,270 --> 01:42:02,280 reality 5549 01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:05,550 reality he's a a pudgy brony 5550 01:42:05,550 --> 01:42:05,560 he's a a pudgy brony 5551 01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:09,510 he's a a pudgy brony YouTuber showing you his his animations 5552 01:42:09,510 --> 01:42:09,520 YouTuber showing you his his animations 5553 01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,430 YouTuber showing you his his animations before he shows you his dick. Like 5554 01:42:11,430 --> 01:42:11,440 before he shows you his dick. Like 5555 01:42:11,440 --> 01:42:14,470 before he shows you his dick. Like that's not the same thing at all. Like 5556 01:42:14,470 --> 01:42:14,480 that's not the same thing at all. Like 5557 01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:16,149 that's not the same thing at all. Like you think there was some kind of weird 5558 01:42:16,149 --> 01:42:16,159 you think there was some kind of weird 5559 01:42:16,159 --> 01:42:18,590 you think there was some kind of weird parasocial dynamic too that she felt 5560 01:42:18,590 --> 01:42:18,600 parasocial dynamic too that she felt 5561 01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:20,870 parasocial dynamic too that she felt uncomfortable, you know, advocating for 5562 01:42:20,870 --> 01:42:20,880 uncomfortable, you know, advocating for 5563 01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,030 uncomfortable, you know, advocating for herself because like oh this is the real 5564 01:42:23,030 --> 01:42:23,040 herself because like oh this is the real 5565 01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:25,390 herself because like oh this is the real Saber Spark TM like I don't want to feel 5566 01:42:25,390 --> 01:42:25,400 Saber Spark TM like I don't want to feel 5567 01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:28,709 Saber Spark TM like I don't want to feel like, you know, he might say something 5568 01:42:28,709 --> 01:42:28,719 like, you know, he might say something 5569 01:42:28,719 --> 01:42:31,350 like, you know, he might say something on Twitter, you know, blast me publicly. 5570 01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:31,360 on Twitter, you know, blast me publicly. 5571 01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:33,590 on Twitter, you know, blast me publicly. Like is there pressure just generally 5572 01:42:33,590 --> 01:42:33,600 Like is there pressure just generally 5573 01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,750 Like is there pressure just generally speaking when celebrities, you know, 5574 01:42:35,750 --> 01:42:35,760 speaking when celebrities, you know, 5575 01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,990 speaking when celebrities, you know, have those kind of encounters with fans? 5576 01:42:37,990 --> 01:42:38,000 have those kind of encounters with fans? 5577 01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,310 have those kind of encounters with fans? I guess of course she would have felt 5578 01:42:40,310 --> 01:42:40,320 I guess of course she would have felt 5579 01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:42,430 I guess of course she would have felt uncomfortable advocating for herself. 5580 01:42:42,430 --> 01:42:42,440 uncomfortable advocating for herself. 5581 01:42:42,440 --> 01:42:45,430 uncomfortable advocating for herself. Like most most fans don't get to meet 5582 01:42:45,430 --> 01:42:45,440 Like most most fans don't get to meet 5583 01:42:45,440 --> 01:42:47,430 Like most most fans don't get to meet their idol in person. So meeting your 5584 01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:47,440 their idol in person. So meeting your 5585 01:42:47,440 --> 01:42:50,149 their idol in person. So meeting your idol in person is already a very um like 5586 01:42:50,149 --> 01:42:50,159 idol in person is already a very um like 5587 01:42:50,159 --> 01:42:52,070 idol in person is already a very um like exalted sort of status. Like that's 5588 01:42:52,070 --> 01:42:52,080 exalted sort of status. Like that's 5589 01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:53,750 exalted sort of status. Like that's something most fans dream of but never 5590 01:42:53,750 --> 01:42:53,760 something most fans dream of but never 5591 01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:55,910 something most fans dream of but never actually get to. So once you put a fan 5592 01:42:55,910 --> 01:42:55,920 actually get to. So once you put a fan 5593 01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:57,350 actually get to. So once you put a fan in the situation where they're meeting 5594 01:42:57,350 --> 01:42:57,360 in the situation where they're meeting 5595 01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:58,950 in the situation where they're meeting their idol in person, something they 5596 01:42:58,950 --> 01:42:58,960 their idol in person, something they 5597 01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:00,709 their idol in person, something they dream probably never thought would 5598 01:43:00,709 --> 01:43:00,719 dream probably never thought would 5599 01:43:00,719 --> 01:43:02,870 dream probably never thought would happen but always dreamed would happen, 5600 01:43:02,870 --> 01:43:02,880 happen but always dreamed would happen, 5601 01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:04,629 happen but always dreamed would happen, no fan is going to do something that's 5602 01:43:04,629 --> 01:43:04,639 no fan is going to do something that's 5603 01:43:04,639 --> 01:43:06,070 no fan is going to do something that's going to jeopardize that. And that 5604 01:43:06,070 --> 01:43:06,080 going to jeopardize that. And that 5605 01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:08,430 going to jeopardize that. And that includes offending their 5606 01:43:08,430 --> 01:43:08,440 includes offending their 5607 01:43:08,440 --> 01:43:12,470 includes offending their idol. And like it's it the idol knows 5608 01:43:12,470 --> 01:43:12,480 idol. And like it's it the idol knows 5609 01:43:12,480 --> 01:43:14,229 idol. And like it's it the idol knows that. And for like say like anybody to 5610 01:43:14,229 --> 01:43:14,239 that. And for like say like anybody to 5611 01:43:14,239 --> 01:43:15,430 that. And for like say like anybody to sit there and be like, well, you know 5612 01:43:15,430 --> 01:43:15,440 sit there and be like, well, you know 5613 01:43:15,440 --> 01:43:17,510 sit there and be like, well, you know what? If what if so and so wasn't aware 5614 01:43:17,510 --> 01:43:17,520 what? If what if so and so wasn't aware 5615 01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:19,189 what? If what if so and so wasn't aware of the power dynamic like they always 5616 01:43:19,189 --> 01:43:19,199 of the power dynamic like they always 5617 01:43:19,199 --> 01:43:20,629 of the power dynamic like they always know. You can always tell. You can 5618 01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:20,639 know. You can always tell. You can 5619 01:43:20,639 --> 01:43:22,709 know. You can always tell. You can always feel it. You can tell when 5620 01:43:22,709 --> 01:43:22,719 always feel it. You can tell when 5621 01:43:22,719 --> 01:43:25,149 always feel it. You can tell when somebody is fangirling. 5622 01:43:25,149 --> 01:43:25,159 somebody is fangirling. 5623 01:43:25,159 --> 01:43:27,910 somebody is fangirling. and to like for someone who's going to 5624 01:43:27,910 --> 01:43:27,920 and to like for someone who's going to 5625 01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:29,350 and to like for someone who's going to sit there and pray on that and be like, 5626 01:43:29,350 --> 01:43:29,360 sit there and pray on that and be like, 5627 01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:31,669 sit there and pray on that and be like, "Well, I know you're not going to say no 5628 01:43:31,669 --> 01:43:31,679 "Well, I know you're not going to say no 5629 01:43:31,679 --> 01:43:33,830 "Well, I know you're not going to say no to me or at least give me a hard 5630 01:43:33,830 --> 01:43:33,840 to me or at least give me a hard 5631 01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,310 to me or at least give me a hard boundary that could possibly offend me. 5632 01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:36,320 boundary that could possibly offend me. 5633 01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:39,430 boundary that could possibly offend me. So, I'm going to exploit that by asking 5634 01:43:39,430 --> 01:43:39,440 So, I'm going to exploit that by asking 5635 01:43:39,440 --> 01:43:41,910 So, I'm going to exploit that by asking things of you that I know you wouldn't 5636 01:43:41,910 --> 01:43:41,920 things of you that I know you wouldn't 5637 01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:45,189 things of you that I know you wouldn't say yes to in any other situation." 5638 01:43:45,189 --> 01:43:45,199 say yes to in any other situation." 5639 01:43:45,199 --> 01:43:45,950 say yes to in any other situation." And 5640 01:43:45,950 --> 01:43:45,960 And 5641 01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:49,510 And like to be quite honest, no fan is going 5642 01:43:49,510 --> 01:43:49,520 like to be quite honest, no fan is going 5643 01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:52,470 like to be quite honest, no fan is going to do any most, sorry, most fans are not 5644 01:43:52,470 --> 01:43:52,480 to do any most, sorry, most fans are not 5645 01:43:52,480 --> 01:43:54,070 to do any most, sorry, most fans are not going to do anything other than fall 5646 01:43:54,070 --> 01:43:54,080 going to do anything other than fall 5647 01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:55,910 going to do anything other than fall into line with that because again, 5648 01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:55,920 into line with that because again, 5649 01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:57,830 into line with that because again, they're getting to an exalted status of 5650 01:43:57,830 --> 01:43:57,840 they're getting to an exalted status of 5651 01:43:57,840 --> 01:43:59,910 they're getting to an exalted status of getting to meet their idol in person. 5652 01:43:59,910 --> 01:43:59,920 getting to meet their idol in person. 5653 01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:01,189 getting to meet their idol in person. You know, they've been a fan of this 5654 01:44:01,189 --> 01:44:01,199 You know, they've been a fan of this 5655 01:44:01,199 --> 01:44:02,229 You know, they've been a fan of this person. They've done art for this 5656 01:44:02,229 --> 01:44:02,239 person. They've done art for this 5657 01:44:02,239 --> 01:44:03,750 person. They've done art for this person. They've dreamed of meeting this 5658 01:44:03,750 --> 01:44:03,760 person. They've dreamed of meeting this 5659 01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:05,430 person. They've dreamed of meeting this person. They're not going to jeopardize 5660 01:44:05,430 --> 01:44:05,440 person. They're not going to jeopardize 5661 01:44:05,440 --> 01:44:07,590 person. They're not going to jeopardize that by offending that person by saying 5662 01:44:07,590 --> 01:44:07,600 that by offending that person by saying 5663 01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,149 that by offending that person by saying no. Mhm. And not that those 5664 01:44:10,149 --> 01:44:10,159 no. Mhm. And not that those 5665 01:44:10,159 --> 01:44:12,550 no. Mhm. And not that those relationships can't happen, but it's 5666 01:44:12,550 --> 01:44:12,560 relationships can't happen, but it's 5667 01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:15,310 relationships can't happen, but it's very tricky water as far as, you know, 5668 01:44:15,310 --> 01:44:15,320 very tricky water as far as, you know, 5669 01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:17,669 very tricky water as far as, you know, establishing and acknowledging the power 5670 01:44:17,669 --> 01:44:17,679 establishing and acknowledging the power 5671 01:44:17,679 --> 01:44:20,109 establishing and acknowledging the power dynamic and discussing it before like 5672 01:44:20,109 --> 01:44:20,119 dynamic and discussing it before like 5673 01:44:20,119 --> 01:44:23,750 dynamic and discussing it before like even anything were to happen. But I 5674 01:44:23,750 --> 01:44:23,760 even anything were to happen. But I 5675 01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:26,070 even anything were to happen. But I don't know, my whole mo has never really 5676 01:44:26,070 --> 01:44:26,080 don't know, my whole mo has never really 5677 01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:28,470 don't know, my whole mo has never really been to go date your fans cuz you know 5678 01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:28,480 been to go date your fans cuz you know 5679 01:44:28,480 --> 01:44:31,109 been to go date your fans cuz you know it like your your fans are not a dating 5680 01:44:31,109 --> 01:44:31,119 it like your your fans are not a dating 5681 01:44:31,119 --> 01:44:33,910 it like your your fans are not a dating pool. They're like they're just, you 5682 01:44:33,910 --> 01:44:33,920 pool. They're like they're just, you 5683 01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:35,350 pool. They're like they're just, you know, they're there to consume your 5684 01:44:35,350 --> 01:44:35,360 know, they're there to consume your 5685 01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:37,750 know, they're there to consume your content. I don't know. It just ic this 5686 01:44:37,750 --> 01:44:37,760 content. I don't know. It just ic this 5687 01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:39,590 content. I don't know. It just ic this it's not it's not technically illegal, 5688 01:44:39,590 --> 01:44:39,600 it's not it's not technically illegal, 5689 01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,310 it's not it's not technically illegal, but it just kind of icked to me. And in 5690 01:44:42,310 --> 01:44:42,320 but it just kind of icked to me. And in 5691 01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,149 but it just kind of icked to me. And in terms of dating your fans, like I I 5692 01:44:44,149 --> 01:44:44,159 terms of dating your fans, like I I 5693 01:44:44,159 --> 01:44:45,709 terms of dating your fans, like I I don't know. I just kind of miss the days 5694 01:44:45,709 --> 01:44:45,719 don't know. I just kind of miss the days 5695 01:44:45,719 --> 01:44:48,629 don't know. I just kind of miss the days where it was considered just not kosher 5696 01:44:48,629 --> 01:44:48,639 where it was considered just not kosher 5697 01:44:48,639 --> 01:44:50,470 where it was considered just not kosher to date from your fan base. Like that 5698 01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:50,480 to date from your fan base. Like that 5699 01:44:50,480 --> 01:44:55,109 to date from your fan base. Like that was considered poor form because like 5700 01:44:55,109 --> 01:44:55,119 was considered poor form because like 5701 01:44:55,119 --> 01:44:58,310 was considered poor form because like your fans aren't your peers. And I just 5702 01:44:58,310 --> 01:44:58,320 your fans aren't your peers. And I just 5703 01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:01,189 your fans aren't your peers. And I just I always question why like when somebody 5704 01:45:01,189 --> 01:45:01,199 I always question why like when somebody 5705 01:45:01,199 --> 01:45:04,310 I always question why like when somebody can't pull from their peers, like why is 5706 01:45:04,310 --> 01:45:04,320 can't pull from their peers, like why is 5707 01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:07,990 can't pull from their peers, like why is it that you can't like land somebody and 5708 01:45:07,990 --> 01:45:08,000 it that you can't like land somebody and 5709 01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,310 it that you can't like land somebody and date somebody who's like on an even 5710 01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:10,320 date somebody who's like on an even 5711 01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:12,070 date somebody who's like on an even playing field with you? Why does there 5712 01:45:12,070 --> 01:45:12,080 playing field with you? Why does there 5713 01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:15,350 playing field with you? Why does there have to be a power imbalance? And and I 5714 01:45:15,350 --> 01:45:15,360 have to be a power imbalance? And and I 5715 01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:17,189 have to be a power imbalance? And and I that's always like the the trend with 5716 01:45:17,189 --> 01:45:17,199 that's always like the the trend with 5717 01:45:17,199 --> 01:45:19,430 that's always like the the trend with these types like there if you look at 5718 01:45:19,430 --> 01:45:19,440 these types like there if you look at 5719 01:45:19,440 --> 01:45:21,270 these types like there if you look at like their most of their relationships, 5720 01:45:21,270 --> 01:45:21,280 like their most of their relationships, 5721 01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:22,950 like their most of their relationships, they're all there's always a power 5722 01:45:22,950 --> 01:45:22,960 they're all there's always a power 5723 01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:24,709 they're all there's always a power imbalance. And if you have a track 5724 01:45:24,709 --> 01:45:24,719 imbalance. And if you have a track 5725 01:45:24,719 --> 01:45:26,550 imbalance. And if you have a track record of having a power imbalance in 5726 01:45:26,550 --> 01:45:26,560 record of having a power imbalance in 5727 01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:27,470 record of having a power imbalance in your 5728 01:45:27,470 --> 01:45:27,480 your 5729 01:45:27,480 --> 01:45:29,669 your relationships, what is wrong with you? 5730 01:45:29,669 --> 01:45:29,679 relationships, what is wrong with you? 5731 01:45:29,679 --> 01:45:32,229 relationships, what is wrong with you? Like, why do you need to have a oneup on 5732 01:45:32,229 --> 01:45:32,239 Like, why do you need to have a oneup on 5733 01:45:32,239 --> 01:45:33,750 Like, why do you need to have a oneup on somebody in order to be in a 5734 01:45:33,750 --> 01:45:33,760 somebody in order to be in a 5735 01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:35,709 somebody in order to be in a relationship with them? Like, you need 5736 01:45:35,709 --> 01:45:35,719 relationship with them? Like, you need 5737 01:45:35,719 --> 01:45:38,950 relationship with them? Like, you need therapy. Yeah, it's so fun here. Um, I 5738 01:45:38,950 --> 01:45:38,960 therapy. Yeah, it's so fun here. Um, I 5739 01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:40,390 therapy. Yeah, it's so fun here. Um, I think that's it, Courtney. Unless you 5740 01:45:40,390 --> 01:45:40,400 think that's it, Courtney. Unless you 5741 01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,310 think that's it, Courtney. Unless you have anything else to add, like anything 5742 01:45:42,310 --> 01:45:42,320 have anything else to add, like anything 5743 01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:45,030 have anything else to add, like anything else you want to add that that you 5744 01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:45,040 else you want to add that that you 5745 01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:46,790 else you want to add that that you remember from the testimony that you 5746 01:45:46,790 --> 01:45:46,800 remember from the testimony that you 5747 01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:49,990 remember from the testimony that you want to comment on. If you question if 5748 01:45:49,990 --> 01:45:50,000 want to comment on. If you question if 5749 01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:53,990 want to comment on. If you question if it's a violation, it probably was. 5750 01:45:53,990 --> 01:45:54,000 it's a violation, it probably was. 5751 01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:55,629 it's a violation, it probably was. If you feel 5752 01:45:55,629 --> 01:45:55,639 If you feel 5753 01:45:55,639 --> 01:45:58,189 If you feel violated, that was not 5754 01:45:58,189 --> 01:45:58,199 violated, that was not 5755 01:45:58,199 --> 01:46:01,109 violated, that was not consent. Your feelings matter. Your 5756 01:46:01,109 --> 01:46:01,119 consent. Your feelings matter. Your 5757 01:46:01,119 --> 01:46:02,750 consent. Your feelings matter. Your feelings are 5758 01:46:02,750 --> 01:46:02,760 feelings are 5759 01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:06,109 feelings are valid. Consent is never 5760 01:46:06,109 --> 01:46:06,119 valid. Consent is never 5761 01:46:06,119 --> 01:46:08,030 valid. Consent is never implied. 5762 01:46:08,030 --> 01:46:08,040 implied. 5763 01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:11,390 implied. Um, real men who get [\h__\h] ask for 5764 01:46:11,390 --> 01:46:11,400 Um, real men who get [\h__\h] ask for 5765 01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,870 Um, real men who get [\h__\h] ask for consent. I guess that's 5766 01:46:13,870 --> 01:46:13,880 consent. I guess that's 5767 01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:17,990 consent. I guess that's it. Uh, what a what a good way to to end 5768 01:46:17,990 --> 01:46:18,000 it. Uh, what a what a good way to to end 5769 01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:19,990 it. Uh, what a what a good way to to end the video. Not end the video, end the 5770 01:46:19,990 --> 01:46:20,000 the video. Not end the video, end the 5771 01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:21,510 the video. Not end the video, end the segment. What a good way to end the 5772 01:46:21,510 --> 01:46:21,520 segment. What a good way to end the 5773 01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:24,310 segment. What a good way to end the segment. Part five, why make this video? 5774 01:46:24,310 --> 01:46:24,320 segment. Part five, why make this video? 5775 01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:26,070 segment. Part five, why make this video? Unfortunately, this is insight about how 5776 01:46:26,070 --> 01:46:26,080 Unfortunately, this is insight about how 5777 01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:27,510 Unfortunately, this is insight about how content creators can respond to 5778 01:46:27,510 --> 01:46:27,520 content creators can respond to 5779 01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:29,590 content creators can respond to situations of sexual harassment and more 5780 01:46:29,590 --> 01:46:29,600 situations of sexual harassment and more 5781 01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:31,350 situations of sexual harassment and more damning incidents. It's important to 5782 01:46:31,350 --> 01:46:31,360 damning incidents. It's important to 5783 01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:33,350 damning incidents. It's important to talk about how this stuff isn't okay and 5784 01:46:33,350 --> 01:46:33,360 talk about how this stuff isn't okay and 5785 01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:35,189 talk about how this stuff isn't okay and it's not something to make jokes out of. 5786 01:46:35,189 --> 01:46:35,199 it's not something to make jokes out of. 5787 01:46:35,199 --> 01:46:36,470 it's not something to make jokes out of. I personally shouldn't have to be 5788 01:46:36,470 --> 01:46:36,480 I personally shouldn't have to be 5789 01:46:36,480 --> 01:46:38,149 I personally shouldn't have to be sexualized or belittle because someone 5790 01:46:38,149 --> 01:46:38,159 sexualized or belittle because someone 5791 01:46:38,159 --> 01:46:39,910 sexualized or belittle because someone didn't get what they wanted and in a 5792 01:46:39,910 --> 01:46:39,920 didn't get what they wanted and in a 5793 01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:41,750 didn't get what they wanted and in a professional setting. The story and the 5794 01:46:41,750 --> 01:46:41,760 professional setting. The story and the 5795 01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:43,510 professional setting. The story and the other incidents are taken to an extreme. 5796 01:46:43,510 --> 01:46:43,520 other incidents are taken to an extreme. 5797 01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:44,790 other incidents are taken to an extreme. I should not have to fight with people 5798 01:46:44,790 --> 01:46:44,800 I should not have to fight with people 5799 01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:46,390 I should not have to fight with people to get justice for something like this 5800 01:46:46,390 --> 01:46:46,400 to get justice for something like this 5801 01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,629 to get justice for something like this or for other victims. and especially on 5802 01:46:48,629 --> 01:46:48,639 or for other victims. and especially on 5803 01:46:48,639 --> 01:46:50,229 or for other victims. and especially on receiving responses when there only 5804 01:46:50,229 --> 01:46:50,239 receiving responses when there only 5805 01:46:50,239 --> 01:46:52,310 receiving responses when there only might be repercussions on the line. It's 5806 01:46:52,310 --> 01:46:52,320 might be repercussions on the line. It's 5807 01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:53,990 might be repercussions on the line. It's messed up. And I'm hoping this can be a 5808 01:46:53,990 --> 01:46:54,000 messed up. And I'm hoping this can be a 5809 01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:55,510 messed up. And I'm hoping this can be a learning experience for anyone who has 5810 01:46:55,510 --> 01:46:55,520 learning experience for anyone who has 5811 01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:57,270 learning experience for anyone who has ever made a nasty meme or taken 5812 01:46:57,270 --> 01:46:57,280 ever made a nasty meme or taken 5813 01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:58,950 ever made a nasty meme or taken something too far. Admitting it and 5814 01:46:58,950 --> 01:46:58,960 something too far. Admitting it and 5815 01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:00,709 something too far. Admitting it and apologizing without being prompted can 5816 01:47:00,709 --> 01:47:00,719 apologizing without being prompted can 5817 01:47:00,719 --> 01:47:02,229 apologizing without being prompted can go a long way. And thinking about 5818 01:47:02,229 --> 01:47:02,239 go a long way. And thinking about 5819 01:47:02,239 --> 01:47:04,149 go a long way. And thinking about possible consequences should be as well. 5820 01:47:04,149 --> 01:47:04,159 possible consequences should be as well. 5821 01:47:04,159 --> 01:47:05,910 possible consequences should be as well. Chris didn't just make up a bad story. 5822 01:47:05,910 --> 01:47:05,920 Chris didn't just make up a bad story. 5823 01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:07,590 Chris didn't just make up a bad story. He did some other unsavory stuff. 5824 01:47:07,590 --> 01:47:07,600 He did some other unsavory stuff. 5825 01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:09,430 He did some other unsavory stuff. Combined with the lack of action when a 5826 01:47:09,430 --> 01:47:09,440 Combined with the lack of action when a 5827 01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:11,590 Combined with the lack of action when a groomer is in the DA game space, when 5828 01:47:11,590 --> 01:47:11,600 groomer is in the DA game space, when 5829 01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:13,189 groomer is in the DA game space, when there are children in there is 5830 01:47:13,189 --> 01:47:13,199 there are children in there is 5831 01:47:13,199 --> 01:47:15,270 there are children in there is unacceptable. There is nothing bad or 5832 01:47:15,270 --> 01:47:15,280 unacceptable. There is nothing bad or 5833 01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:18,149 unacceptable. There is nothing bad or off-brand about kicking a pedophile out 5834 01:47:18,149 --> 01:47:18,159 off-brand about kicking a pedophile out 5835 01:47:18,159 --> 01:47:19,990 off-brand about kicking a pedophile out of your community and letting other 5836 01:47:19,990 --> 01:47:20,000 of your community and letting other 5837 01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,470 of your community and letting other adjacent communities know. It also seems 5838 01:47:22,470 --> 01:47:22,480 adjacent communities know. It also seems 5839 01:47:22,480 --> 01:47:24,870 adjacent communities know. It also seems to me that many popular content creators 5840 01:47:24,870 --> 01:47:24,880 to me that many popular content creators 5841 01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:26,550 to me that many popular content creators don't know or frankly don't care about 5842 01:47:26,550 --> 01:47:26,560 don't know or frankly don't care about 5843 01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:27,990 don't know or frankly don't care about keeping their community safe when it 5844 01:47:27,990 --> 01:47:28,000 keeping their community safe when it 5845 01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:30,229 keeping their community safe when it comes to problematic behavior. There 5846 01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:30,239 comes to problematic behavior. There 5847 01:47:30,239 --> 01:47:32,390 comes to problematic behavior. There will be confrontation involved. So, if 5848 01:47:32,390 --> 01:47:32,400 will be confrontation involved. So, if 5849 01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:34,470 will be confrontation involved. So, if you don't like confrontation, maybe 5850 01:47:34,470 --> 01:47:34,480 you don't like confrontation, maybe 5851 01:47:34,480 --> 01:47:36,149 you don't like confrontation, maybe think twice about being a content 5852 01:47:36,149 --> 01:47:36,159 think twice about being a content 5853 01:47:36,159 --> 01:47:37,910 think twice about being a content creator. If you don't want so much 5854 01:47:37,910 --> 01:47:37,920 creator. If you don't want so much 5855 01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:39,830 creator. If you don't want so much responsibility, then consider making 5856 01:47:39,830 --> 01:47:39,840 responsibility, then consider making 5857 01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:42,470 responsibility, then consider making public spaces 18 plus. But even then, 5858 01:47:42,470 --> 01:47:42,480 public spaces 18 plus. But even then, 5859 01:47:42,480 --> 01:47:44,390 public spaces 18 plus. But even then, there still might be creeps. So, I made 5860 01:47:44,390 --> 01:47:44,400 there still might be creeps. So, I made 5861 01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,550 there still might be creeps. So, I made a quick little guide, KP's guide to 5862 01:47:46,550 --> 01:47:46,560 a quick little guide, KP's guide to 5863 01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:47,910 a quick little guide, KP's guide to dealing with bad people in your 5864 01:47:47,910 --> 01:47:47,920 dealing with bad people in your 5865 01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,470 dealing with bad people in your community. Number one, listen to someone 5866 01:47:50,470 --> 01:47:50,480 community. Number one, listen to someone 5867 01:47:50,480 --> 01:47:52,470 community. Number one, listen to someone if they have a serious concern and make 5868 01:47:52,470 --> 01:47:52,480 if they have a serious concern and make 5869 01:47:52,480 --> 01:47:54,470 if they have a serious concern and make sure they have screenshots if possible. 5870 01:47:54,470 --> 01:47:54,480 sure they have screenshots if possible. 5871 01:47:54,480 --> 01:47:56,470 sure they have screenshots if possible. And if you're too busy, get a mod team 5872 01:47:56,470 --> 01:47:56,480 And if you're too busy, get a mod team 5873 01:47:56,480 --> 01:47:58,870 And if you're too busy, get a mod team to help you with this. Number two, if 5874 01:47:58,870 --> 01:47:58,880 to help you with this. Number two, if 5875 01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:01,109 to help you with this. Number two, if the screenshots are damning enough, skip 5876 01:48:01,109 --> 01:48:01,119 the screenshots are damning enough, skip 5877 01:48:01,119 --> 01:48:02,709 the screenshots are damning enough, skip step three and remove them from your 5878 01:48:02,709 --> 01:48:02,719 step three and remove them from your 5879 01:48:02,719 --> 01:48:05,030 step three and remove them from your space. Number three, if there are no 5880 01:48:05,030 --> 01:48:05,040 space. Number three, if there are no 5881 01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:06,709 space. Number three, if there are no screenshots, confront the person with 5882 01:48:06,709 --> 01:48:06,719 screenshots, confront the person with 5883 01:48:06,719 --> 01:48:08,310 screenshots, confront the person with the issue stated and get their side of 5884 01:48:08,310 --> 01:48:08,320 the issue stated and get their side of 5885 01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:09,990 the issue stated and get their side of the story. Have others weigh in on the 5886 01:48:09,990 --> 01:48:10,000 the story. Have others weigh in on the 5887 01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:11,830 the story. Have others weigh in on the decision if it's a hard one. Number 5888 01:48:11,830 --> 01:48:11,840 decision if it's a hard one. Number 5889 01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:13,990 decision if it's a hard one. Number four, make a Google doc with problematic 5890 01:48:13,990 --> 01:48:14,000 four, make a Google doc with problematic 5891 01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,149 four, make a Google doc with problematic or unsafe behavior so it can be shared 5892 01:48:16,149 --> 01:48:16,159 or unsafe behavior so it can be shared 5893 01:48:16,159 --> 01:48:17,990 or unsafe behavior so it can be shared with other communities and this person 5894 01:48:17,990 --> 01:48:18,000 with other communities and this person 5895 01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:20,070 with other communities and this person can't prey on another fan group. Number 5896 01:48:20,070 --> 01:48:20,080 can't prey on another fan group. Number 5897 01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:22,070 can't prey on another fan group. Number five, look out for name changes in 5898 01:48:22,070 --> 01:48:22,080 five, look out for name changes in 5899 01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,070 five, look out for name changes in general suspicious behavior, especially 5900 01:48:24,070 --> 01:48:24,080 general suspicious behavior, especially 5901 01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:26,390 general suspicious behavior, especially in fandom communities. All in all, these 5902 01:48:26,390 --> 01:48:26,400 in fandom communities. All in all, these 5903 01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:28,310 in fandom communities. All in all, these people seem to be unsafe around children 5904 01:48:28,310 --> 01:48:28,320 people seem to be unsafe around children 5905 01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:29,910 people seem to be unsafe around children because they don't seem to care about 5906 01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:29,920 because they don't seem to care about 5907 01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:32,149 because they don't seem to care about holding anyone accountable. And Saber 5908 01:48:32,149 --> 01:48:32,159 holding anyone accountable. And Saber 5909 01:48:32,159 --> 01:48:33,350 holding anyone accountable. And Saber probably didn't think all this through 5910 01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:33,360 probably didn't think all this through 5911 01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:34,629 probably didn't think all this through because he didn't think it was going to 5912 01:48:34,629 --> 01:48:34,639 because he didn't think it was going to 5913 01:48:34,639 --> 01:48:39,109 because he didn't think it was going to be public. Oops. # sorry not sorry part 5914 01:48:39,109 --> 01:48:39,119 be public. Oops. # sorry not sorry part 5915 01:48:39,119 --> 01:48:41,109 be public. Oops. # sorry not sorry part six [\h__\h] on Lily Orchard because 5916 01:48:41,109 --> 01:48:41,119 six [\h__\h] on Lily Orchard because 5917 01:48:41,119 --> 01:48:50,890 six [\h__\h] on Lily Orchard because it's fun. 5918 01:48:50,890 --> 01:48:50,900 5919 01:48:50,900 --> 01:48:59,430 [Music] 5920 01:48:59,430 --> 01:48:59,440 5921 01:48:59,440 --> 01:49:15,030 [Music] 5922 01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:15,040 5923 01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:17,270 So, welcome to the Lily section for the 5924 01:49:17,270 --> 01:49:17,280 So, welcome to the Lily section for the 5925 01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,830 So, welcome to the Lily section for the people who only care about her and not 5926 01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:19,840 people who only care about her and not 5927 01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:22,070 people who only care about her and not any of the other stuff. Fun fact, Lily 5928 01:49:22,070 --> 01:49:22,080 any of the other stuff. Fun fact, Lily 5929 01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:26,070 any of the other stuff. Fun fact, Lily just rebranded herself as CD call out 5930 01:49:26,070 --> 01:49:26,080 just rebranded herself as CD call out 5931 01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:28,550 just rebranded herself as CD call out because it's totally about not escaping 5932 01:49:28,550 --> 01:49:28,560 because it's totally about not escaping 5933 01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:31,189 because it's totally about not escaping all the pedophilia and abuse claims and 5934 01:49:31,189 --> 01:49:31,199 all the pedophilia and abuse claims and 5935 01:49:31,199 --> 01:49:33,030 all the pedophilia and abuse claims and just making people happy with her 5936 01:49:33,030 --> 01:49:33,040 just making people happy with her 5937 01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:35,270 just making people happy with her sunshiny content cuz her content's 5938 01:49:35,270 --> 01:49:35,280 sunshiny content cuz her content's 5939 01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:37,669 sunshiny content cuz her content's always just so positive and great and 5940 01:49:37,669 --> 01:49:37,679 always just so positive and great and 5941 01:49:37,679 --> 01:49:39,830 always just so positive and great and Jesus [\h__\h] Christ, she's not [\h__\h] 5942 01:49:39,830 --> 01:49:39,840 Jesus [\h__\h] Christ, she's not [\h__\h] 5943 01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,270 Jesus [\h__\h] Christ, she's not [\h__\h] fooling anyone. Are you a rotten liar? 5944 01:49:43,270 --> 01:49:43,280 fooling anyone. Are you a rotten liar? 5945 01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:45,109 fooling anyone. Are you a rotten liar? KP wanted to talk to Sketchy about all 5946 01:49:45,109 --> 01:49:45,119 KP wanted to talk to Sketchy about all 5947 01:49:45,119 --> 01:49:47,109 KP wanted to talk to Sketchy about all these accusations made against me and 5948 01:49:47,109 --> 01:49:47,119 these accusations made against me and 5949 01:49:47,119 --> 01:49:48,950 these accusations made against me and then show screenshots that made it very 5950 01:49:48,950 --> 01:49:48,960 then show screenshots that made it very 5951 01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:50,950 then show screenshots that made it very obvious that she's lying. Sketchy says 5952 01:49:50,950 --> 01:49:50,960 obvious that she's lying. Sketchy says 5953 01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:52,790 obvious that she's lying. Sketchy says rather plainly, "I am not comfortable 5954 01:49:52,790 --> 01:49:52,800 rather plainly, "I am not comfortable 5955 01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:54,229 rather plainly, "I am not comfortable discussing my friends when they're not 5956 01:49:54,229 --> 01:49:54,239 discussing my friends when they're not 5957 01:49:54,239 --> 01:49:56,310 discussing my friends when they're not around." To which KP offers adding a 5958 01:49:56,310 --> 01:49:56,320 around." To which KP offers adding a 5959 01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,229 around." To which KP offers adding a third party whose relation to the case 5960 01:49:58,229 --> 01:49:58,239 third party whose relation to the case 5961 01:49:58,239 --> 01:50:00,629 third party whose relation to the case she has yet to disclose, but she is 5962 01:50:00,629 --> 01:50:00,639 she has yet to disclose, but she is 5963 01:50:00,639 --> 01:50:02,550 she has yet to disclose, but she is unfortunately missing the point. Sketchy 5964 01:50:02,550 --> 01:50:02,560 unfortunately missing the point. Sketchy 5965 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:03,990 unfortunately missing the point. Sketchy did not want to have this conversation 5966 01:50:03,990 --> 01:50:04,000 did not want to have this conversation 5967 01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:05,750 did not want to have this conversation while I wasn't present, so the third 5968 01:50:05,750 --> 01:50:05,760 while I wasn't present, so the third 5969 01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:07,510 while I wasn't present, so the third party had to be me. So, the sketchy 5970 01:50:07,510 --> 01:50:07,520 party had to be me. So, the sketchy 5971 01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:08,950 party had to be me. So, the sketchy stuff was generally taken out of 5972 01:50:08,950 --> 01:50:08,960 stuff was generally taken out of 5973 01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:10,790 stuff was generally taken out of context. In the screenshot I'm showing 5974 01:50:10,790 --> 01:50:10,800 context. In the screenshot I'm showing 5975 01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:12,550 context. In the screenshot I'm showing you, Sketchy basically said he wasn't 5976 01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:12,560 you, Sketchy basically said he wasn't 5977 01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:14,070 you, Sketchy basically said he wasn't open to the conversation, even though I 5978 01:50:14,070 --> 01:50:14,080 open to the conversation, even though I 5979 01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:15,669 open to the conversation, even though I offered if a third party was present, 5980 01:50:15,669 --> 01:50:15,679 offered if a third party was present, 5981 01:50:15,679 --> 01:50:17,669 offered if a third party was present, and he still said no. The third party 5982 01:50:17,669 --> 01:50:17,679 and he still said no. The third party 5983 01:50:17,679 --> 01:50:20,310 and he still said no. The third party was implied to be Lily herself. So, it 5984 01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:20,320 was implied to be Lily herself. So, it 5985 01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:21,830 was implied to be Lily herself. So, it didn't seem to me that he was open to 5986 01:50:21,830 --> 01:50:21,840 didn't seem to me that he was open to 5987 01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:23,350 didn't seem to me that he was open to the conversation regardless if Willie 5988 01:50:23,350 --> 01:50:23,360 the conversation regardless if Willie 5989 01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:25,109 the conversation regardless if Willie was there or not. If he was open to the 5990 01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:25,119 was there or not. If he was open to the 5991 01:50:25,119 --> 01:50:26,790 was there or not. If he was open to the conversation when Willie was there, then 5992 01:50:26,790 --> 01:50:26,800 conversation when Willie was there, then 5993 01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:28,669 conversation when Willie was there, then he should have clarified that with 5994 01:50:28,669 --> 01:50:28,679 he should have clarified that with 5995 01:50:28,679 --> 01:50:30,629 he should have clarified that with communication. And I'm still open to 5996 01:50:30,629 --> 01:50:30,639 communication. And I'm still open to 5997 01:50:30,639 --> 01:50:32,310 communication. And I'm still open to have that conversation even now. So, 5998 01:50:32,310 --> 01:50:32,320 have that conversation even now. So, 5999 01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:34,790 have that conversation even now. So, like, let's go, bro. 6000 01:50:34,790 --> 01:50:34,800 like, let's go, bro. 6001 01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:36,870 like, let's go, bro. You move, chief. The other thing in the 6002 01:50:36,870 --> 01:50:36,880 You move, chief. The other thing in the 6003 01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:38,790 You move, chief. The other thing in the first screenshot is that he just assumes 6004 01:50:38,790 --> 01:50:38,800 first screenshot is that he just assumes 6005 01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:40,870 first screenshot is that he just assumes I'm projecting. Like, that's a weird 6006 01:50:40,870 --> 01:50:40,880 I'm projecting. Like, that's a weird 6007 01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:42,790 I'm projecting. Like, that's a weird thing to say for someone I don't really 6008 01:50:42,790 --> 01:50:42,800 thing to say for someone I don't really 6009 01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:44,470 thing to say for someone I don't really talk to that often. I don't want to 6010 01:50:44,470 --> 01:50:44,480 talk to that often. I don't want to 6011 01:50:44,480 --> 01:50:45,990 talk to that often. I don't want to speculate on private conversation with 6012 01:50:45,990 --> 01:50:46,000 speculate on private conversation with 6013 01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:47,669 speculate on private conversation with Lily, but am I wrong to say that's a 6014 01:50:47,669 --> 01:50:47,679 Lily, but am I wrong to say that's a 6015 01:50:47,679 --> 01:50:49,750 Lily, but am I wrong to say that's a little sussy? It seems obvious to me 6016 01:50:49,750 --> 01:50:49,760 little sussy? It seems obvious to me 6017 01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:51,750 little sussy? It seems obvious to me that Lily talked to him before I 6018 01:50:51,750 --> 01:50:51,760 that Lily talked to him before I 6019 01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:54,070 that Lily talked to him before I confronted him, but I'm not 100% sure. 6020 01:50:54,070 --> 01:50:54,080 confronted him, but I'm not 100% sure. 6021 01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:55,510 confronted him, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm not going to sit here and speculate 6022 01:50:55,510 --> 01:50:55,520 I'm not going to sit here and speculate 6023 01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:57,830 I'm not going to sit here and speculate that. Oh, fun fact, Sketchy is also a 6024 01:50:57,830 --> 01:50:57,840 that. Oh, fun fact, Sketchy is also a 6025 01:50:57,840 --> 01:50:59,990 that. Oh, fun fact, Sketchy is also a not safe for work furry artist, which 6026 01:50:59,990 --> 01:51:00,000 not safe for work furry artist, which 6027 01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:02,629 not safe for work furry artist, which fine, you live your best life, Sketchy. 6028 01:51:02,629 --> 01:51:02,639 fine, you live your best life, Sketchy. 6029 01:51:02,639 --> 01:51:04,550 fine, you live your best life, Sketchy. But you know what? I don't think furries 6030 01:51:04,550 --> 01:51:04,560 But you know what? I don't think furries 6031 01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:06,149 But you know what? I don't think furries are really into the whole pedophilia 6032 01:51:06,149 --> 01:51:06,159 are really into the whole pedophilia 6033 01:51:06,159 --> 01:51:08,310 are really into the whole pedophilia scene. So, you know what' be great? If 6034 01:51:08,310 --> 01:51:08,320 scene. So, you know what' be great? If 6035 01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:10,390 scene. So, you know what' be great? If all the furries spread the word and said 6036 01:51:10,390 --> 01:51:10,400 all the furries spread the word and said 6037 01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:12,149 all the furries spread the word and said not to commission this guy cuz he's 6038 01:51:12,149 --> 01:51:12,159 not to commission this guy cuz he's 6039 01:51:12,159 --> 01:51:14,470 not to commission this guy cuz he's friends with a pedophile. 6040 01:51:14,470 --> 01:51:14,480 friends with a pedophile. 6041 01:51:14,480 --> 01:51:16,790 friends with a pedophile. You're an angry mom. What are we? We're 6042 01:51:16,790 --> 01:51:16,800 You're an angry mom. What are we? We're 6043 01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:18,550 You're an angry mom. What are we? We're an angry mom. Let's talk about the 6044 01:51:18,550 --> 01:51:18,560 an angry mom. Let's talk about the 6045 01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:20,790 an angry mom. Let's talk about the recording confrontation. So, generally 6046 01:51:20,790 --> 01:51:20,800 recording confrontation. So, generally 6047 01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:22,470 recording confrontation. So, generally what happened during the segment is Lily 6048 01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:22,480 what happened during the segment is Lily 6049 01:51:22,480 --> 01:51:24,550 what happened during the segment is Lily kind of manipulated what I said and 6050 01:51:24,550 --> 01:51:24,560 kind of manipulated what I said and 6051 01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:26,149 kind of manipulated what I said and miscommunicated some things. So, I'm 6052 01:51:26,149 --> 01:51:26,159 miscommunicated some things. So, I'm 6053 01:51:26,159 --> 01:51:27,910 miscommunicated some things. So, I'm here to clarify because, you know, [\h__\h] 6054 01:51:27,910 --> 01:51:27,920 here to clarify because, you know, [\h__\h] 6055 01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:30,470 here to clarify because, you know, [\h__\h] Lily, who cares? So, number one, Lily 6056 01:51:30,470 --> 01:51:30,480 Lily, who cares? So, number one, Lily 6057 01:51:30,480 --> 01:51:31,590 Lily, who cares? So, number one, Lily totally skips the part of the 6058 01:51:31,590 --> 01:51:31,600 totally skips the part of the 6059 01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:33,109 totally skips the part of the confrontation where she lies about 6060 01:51:33,109 --> 01:51:33,119 confrontation where she lies about 6061 01:51:33,119 --> 01:51:36,709 confrontation where she lies about Stockholm. So, I was really [\h__\h] 6062 01:51:36,709 --> 01:51:36,719 Stockholm. So, I was really [\h__\h] 6063 01:51:36,719 --> 01:51:39,950 Stockholm. So, I was really [\h__\h] pissed off at uh the fact that Finn 6064 01:51:39,950 --> 01:51:39,960 pissed off at uh the fact that Finn 6065 01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:43,350 pissed off at uh the fact that Finn fiction just basically basically just 6066 01:51:43,350 --> 01:51:43,360 fiction just basically basically just 6067 01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:45,910 fiction just basically basically just kind of let anything go in regard in 6068 01:51:45,910 --> 01:51:45,920 kind of let anything go in regard in 6069 01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:47,669 kind of let anything go in regard in regards to content and just hosted a 6070 01:51:47,669 --> 01:51:47,679 regards to content and just hosted a 6071 01:51:47,679 --> 01:51:49,750 regards to content and just hosted a shitload of child porn. So, I wrote a 6072 01:51:49,750 --> 01:51:49,760 shitload of child porn. So, I wrote a 6073 01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:51,350 shitload of child porn. So, I wrote a book where basically a bunch of p So, I 6074 01:51:51,350 --> 01:51:51,360 book where basically a bunch of p So, I 6075 01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:52,629 book where basically a bunch of p So, I wrote a a fick where a bunch of 6076 01:51:52,629 --> 01:51:52,639 wrote a a fick where a bunch of 6077 01:51:52,639 --> 01:51:54,709 wrote a a fick where a bunch of pedophiles just get shot in the head and 6078 01:51:54,709 --> 01:51:54,719 pedophiles just get shot in the head and 6079 01:51:54,719 --> 01:51:57,109 pedophiles just get shot in the head and then bronies got really mad about it and 6080 01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:57,119 then bronies got really mad about it and 6081 01:51:57,119 --> 01:51:59,189 then bronies got really mad about it and started lying about its contents. That's 6082 01:51:59,189 --> 01:51:59,199 started lying about its contents. That's 6083 01:51:59,199 --> 01:52:00,629 started lying about its contents. That's a weird thing to leave out for someone 6084 01:52:00,629 --> 01:52:00,639 a weird thing to leave out for someone 6085 01:52:00,639 --> 01:52:02,870 a weird thing to leave out for someone who wants to tell the truth. Isn't that 6086 01:52:02,870 --> 01:52:02,880 who wants to tell the truth. Isn't that 6087 01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:04,669 who wants to tell the truth. Isn't that convenient? 6088 01:52:04,669 --> 01:52:04,679 convenient? 6089 01:52:04,679 --> 01:52:07,830 convenient? Um, KP, people have made worse 6090 01:52:07,830 --> 01:52:07,840 Um, KP, people have made worse 6091 01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:09,750 Um, KP, people have made worse accusations about you. Yeah, because 6092 01:52:09,750 --> 01:52:09,760 accusations about you. Yeah, because 6093 01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:11,510 accusations about you. Yeah, because allegedly treating your employees poorly 6094 01:52:11,510 --> 01:52:11,520 allegedly treating your employees poorly 6095 01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:13,270 allegedly treating your employees poorly is totally worse than raping your own 6096 01:52:13,270 --> 01:52:13,280 is totally worse than raping your own 6097 01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:16,229 is totally worse than raping your own little sister. She needs to sort out her 6098 01:52:16,229 --> 01:52:16,239 little sister. She needs to sort out her 6099 01:52:16,239 --> 01:52:19,109 little sister. She needs to sort out her priorities. KP decides my denying of the 6100 01:52:19,109 --> 01:52:19,119 priorities. KP decides my denying of the 6101 01:52:19,119 --> 01:52:21,350 priorities. KP decides my denying of the accusations carries less weight than her 6102 01:52:21,350 --> 01:52:21,360 accusations carries less weight than her 6103 01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,109 accusations carries less weight than her making them because she just decided 6104 01:52:23,109 --> 01:52:23,119 making them because she just decided 6105 01:52:23,119 --> 01:52:25,109 making them because she just decided that was the case. I never accused 6106 01:52:25,109 --> 01:52:25,119 that was the case. I never accused 6107 01:52:25,119 --> 01:52:27,430 that was the case. I never accused anyone of lying and Lily just was like, 6108 01:52:27,430 --> 01:52:27,440 anyone of lying and Lily just was like, 6109 01:52:27,440 --> 01:52:29,830 anyone of lying and Lily just was like, "I don't want you talking to Courtney." 6110 01:52:29,830 --> 01:52:29,840 "I don't want you talking to Courtney." 6111 01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:33,750 "I don't want you talking to Courtney." So, as a favor to you, if I reached out 6112 01:52:33,750 --> 01:52:33,760 So, as a favor to you, if I reached out 6113 01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:35,990 So, as a favor to you, if I reached out to Courtney and got her to apologize for 6114 01:52:35,990 --> 01:52:36,000 to Courtney and got her to apologize for 6115 01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:38,950 to Courtney and got her to apologize for the trans the trans No, no, no. I do not 6116 01:52:38,950 --> 01:52:38,960 the trans the trans No, no, no. I do not 6117 01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:40,310 the trans the trans No, no, no. I do not want you to reach out to Courtney at 6118 01:52:40,310 --> 01:52:40,320 want you to reach out to Courtney at 6119 01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:42,390 want you to reach out to Courtney at all. Just seems like a weird thing to 6120 01:52:42,390 --> 01:52:42,400 all. Just seems like a weird thing to 6121 01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:44,709 all. Just seems like a weird thing to say. If you have nothing to hide, Pearl 6122 01:52:44,709 --> 01:52:44,719 say. If you have nothing to hide, Pearl 6123 01:52:44,719 --> 01:52:46,709 say. If you have nothing to hide, Pearl reaction to me just asking about it was 6124 01:52:46,709 --> 01:52:46,719 reaction to me just asking about it was 6125 01:52:46,719 --> 01:52:48,790 reaction to me just asking about it was so defensive. That's just a question. No 6126 01:52:48,790 --> 01:52:48,800 so defensive. That's just a question. No 6127 01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:50,310 so defensive. That's just a question. No need to get so defensive. And where have 6128 01:52:50,310 --> 01:52:50,320 need to get so defensive. And where have 6129 01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:51,830 need to get so defensive. And where have they said worse things about me? I want 6130 01:52:51,830 --> 01:52:51,840 they said worse things about me? I want 6131 01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:53,669 they said worse things about me? I want you to site your sources. Never mind 6132 01:52:53,669 --> 01:52:53,679 you to site your sources. Never mind 6133 01:52:53,679 --> 01:52:55,189 you to site your sources. Never mind that when you don't have a significant 6134 01:52:55,189 --> 01:52:55,199 that when you don't have a significant 6135 01:52:55,199 --> 01:52:57,030 that when you don't have a significant social media presence, you have nothing 6136 01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:57,040 social media presence, you have nothing 6137 01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:58,790 social media presence, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by doing 6138 01:52:58,790 --> 01:52:58,800 to lose and everything to gain by doing 6139 01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:00,470 to lose and everything to gain by doing it. Yeah, because I'm going to come out 6140 01:53:00,470 --> 01:53:00,480 it. Yeah, because I'm going to come out 6141 01:53:00,480 --> 01:53:02,470 it. Yeah, because I'm going to come out of total obscurity to accuse someone of 6142 01:53:02,470 --> 01:53:02,480 of total obscurity to accuse someone of 6143 01:53:02,480 --> 01:53:04,950 of total obscurity to accuse someone of rape for 1,000 subscribers on YouTube. 6144 01:53:04,950 --> 01:53:04,960 rape for 1,000 subscribers on YouTube. 6145 01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:08,070 rape for 1,000 subscribers on YouTube. Makes sense. Do you even hear yourself? 6146 01:53:08,070 --> 01:53:08,080 Makes sense. Do you even hear yourself? 6147 01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:09,910 Makes sense. Do you even hear yourself? Never mind that this is literally policy 6148 01:53:09,910 --> 01:53:09,920 Never mind that this is literally policy 6149 01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,229 Never mind that this is literally policy in some states. The [\h__\h] What even? 6150 01:53:12,229 --> 01:53:12,239 in some states. The [\h__\h] What even? 6151 01:53:12,239 --> 01:53:13,830 in some states. The [\h__\h] What even? You're not even American, you stupid 6152 01:53:13,830 --> 01:53:13,840 You're not even American, you stupid 6153 01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:15,990 You're not even American, you stupid girl. Girl, can you not? I want to kiss 6154 01:53:15,990 --> 01:53:16,000 girl. Girl, can you not? I want to kiss 6155 01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,149 girl. Girl, can you not? I want to kiss your face with a hammer. She then 6156 01:53:18,149 --> 01:53:18,159 your face with a hammer. She then 6157 01:53:18,159 --> 01:53:19,910 your face with a hammer. She then decided to offer to mediate a call 6158 01:53:19,910 --> 01:53:19,920 decided to offer to mediate a call 6159 01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:22,229 decided to offer to mediate a call between me and Courtney. And are you 6160 01:53:22,229 --> 01:53:22,239 between me and Courtney. And are you 6161 01:53:22,239 --> 01:53:24,870 between me and Courtney. And are you [\h__\h] kidding me? Oh boy. Yeah, I sure 6162 01:53:24,870 --> 01:53:24,880 [\h__\h] kidding me? Oh boy. Yeah, I sure 6163 01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:26,070 [\h__\h] kidding me? Oh boy. Yeah, I sure I would love it if the queen of the 6164 01:53:26,070 --> 01:53:26,080 I would love it if the queen of the 6165 01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:28,070 I would love it if the queen of the lollipop guild organized a call between 6166 01:53:28,070 --> 01:53:28,080 lollipop guild organized a call between 6167 01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:29,750 lollipop guild organized a call between me and my abuser like we're on an 6168 01:53:29,750 --> 01:53:29,760 me and my abuser like we're on an 6169 01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:31,830 me and my abuser like we're on an episode of [\h__\h] smiling friends just 6170 01:53:31,830 --> 01:53:31,840 episode of [\h__\h] smiling friends just 6171 01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:33,750 episode of [\h__\h] smiling friends just because she's a gullible [\h__\h] with all 6172 01:53:33,750 --> 01:53:33,760 because she's a gullible [\h__\h] with all 6173 01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:35,270 because she's a gullible [\h__\h] with all the political awareness of a drunk 6174 01:53:35,270 --> 01:53:35,280 the political awareness of a drunk 6175 01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:38,350 the political awareness of a drunk sparrow in a rave. The [\h__\h] How is this 6176 01:53:38,350 --> 01:53:38,360 sparrow in a rave. The [\h__\h] How is this 6177 01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:41,430 sparrow in a rave. The [\h__\h] How is this political? Why a sparrow? Is that like a 6178 01:53:41,430 --> 01:53:41,440 political? Why a sparrow? Is that like a 6179 01:53:41,440 --> 01:53:43,109 political? Why a sparrow? Is that like a metaphor for something you made up in 6180 01:53:43,109 --> 01:53:43,119 metaphor for something you made up in 6181 01:53:43,119 --> 01:53:46,070 metaphor for something you made up in your head? That is without a doubt the 6182 01:53:46,070 --> 01:53:46,080 your head? That is without a doubt the 6183 01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:48,229 your head? That is without a doubt the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Some 6184 01:53:48,229 --> 01:53:48,239 dumbest thing I've ever heard. Some 6185 01:53:48,239 --> 01:53:50,229 dumbest thing I've ever heard. Some people were surprised at how abruptly I 6186 01:53:50,229 --> 01:53:50,239 people were surprised at how abruptly I 6187 01:53:50,239 --> 01:53:52,390 people were surprised at how abruptly I ended the call when KP said she wasn't 6188 01:53:52,390 --> 01:53:52,400 ended the call when KP said she wasn't 6189 01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:53,990 ended the call when KP said she wasn't comfortable with the accusations made 6190 01:53:53,990 --> 01:53:54,000 comfortable with the accusations made 6191 01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,229 comfortable with the accusations made against me. I just said, "All right, 6192 01:53:56,229 --> 01:53:56,239 against me. I just said, "All right, 6193 01:53:56,239 --> 01:53:58,070 against me. I just said, "All right, bye." and left and blocked her on 6194 01:53:58,070 --> 01:53:58,080 bye." and left and blocked her on 6195 01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:00,229 bye." and left and blocked her on everything. Simple reason for that. I 6196 01:54:00,229 --> 01:54:00,239 everything. Simple reason for that. I 6197 01:54:00,239 --> 01:54:01,910 everything. Simple reason for that. I don't want to be friends with anyone who 6198 01:54:01,910 --> 01:54:01,920 don't want to be friends with anyone who 6199 01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:03,910 don't want to be friends with anyone who believes any of this garbage, and that's 6200 01:54:03,910 --> 01:54:03,920 believes any of this garbage, and that's 6201 01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:05,750 believes any of this garbage, and that's something I'm entitled to do. Yeah, 6202 01:54:05,750 --> 01:54:05,760 something I'm entitled to do. Yeah, 6203 01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:07,350 something I'm entitled to do. Yeah, sure. I never said you can't do that. 6204 01:54:07,350 --> 01:54:07,360 sure. I never said you can't do that. 6205 01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:09,270 sure. I never said you can't do that. It's just a little defensive and weird. 6206 01:54:09,270 --> 01:54:09,280 It's just a little defensive and weird. 6207 01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:11,669 It's just a little defensive and weird. I didn't yell. I didn't scream. I didn't 6208 01:54:11,669 --> 01:54:11,679 I didn't yell. I didn't scream. I didn't 6209 01:54:11,679 --> 01:54:13,910 I didn't yell. I didn't scream. I didn't call her any names. I just said bye and 6210 01:54:13,910 --> 01:54:13,920 call her any names. I just said bye and 6211 01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:15,589 call her any names. I just said bye and left. Girl, you called her a bunch of 6212 01:54:15,589 --> 01:54:15,599 left. Girl, you called her a bunch of 6213 01:54:15,599 --> 01:54:17,109 left. Girl, you called her a bunch of names in this video and demeaned her 6214 01:54:17,109 --> 01:54:17,119 names in this video and demeaned her 6215 01:54:17,119 --> 01:54:20,070 names in this video and demeaned her intelligence. Actually, bye. Okay, I'm 6216 01:54:20,070 --> 01:54:20,080 intelligence. Actually, bye. Okay, I'm 6217 01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:21,910 intelligence. Actually, bye. Okay, I'm out. Can't do this anymore. Need to go 6218 01:54:21,910 --> 01:54:21,920 out. Can't do this anymore. Need to go 6219 01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:23,750 out. Can't do this anymore. Need to go home. I never said I believed in the 6220 01:54:23,750 --> 01:54:23,760 home. I never said I believed in the 6221 01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:25,270 home. I never said I believed in the accusations, just that they made me 6222 01:54:25,270 --> 01:54:25,280 accusations, just that they made me 6223 01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:27,350 accusations, just that they made me uncomfortable and wanted to ask Lily 6224 01:54:27,350 --> 01:54:27,360 uncomfortable and wanted to ask Lily 6225 01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:29,589 uncomfortable and wanted to ask Lily about them. Is that not communicating? 6226 01:54:29,589 --> 01:54:29,599 about them. Is that not communicating? 6227 01:54:29,599 --> 01:54:31,109 about them. Is that not communicating? Lily, you always hemmed and hollered 6228 01:54:31,109 --> 01:54:31,119 Lily, you always hemmed and hollered 6229 01:54:31,119 --> 01:54:32,870 Lily, you always hemmed and hollered about, "Oh, no one ever communicates 6230 01:54:32,870 --> 01:54:32,880 about, "Oh, no one ever communicates 6231 01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:34,950 about, "Oh, no one ever communicates with me. They never set boundaries and 6232 01:54:34,950 --> 01:54:34,960 with me. They never set boundaries and 6233 01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:36,390 with me. They never set boundaries and then they just leave when I make them 6234 01:54:36,390 --> 01:54:36,400 then they just leave when I make them 6235 01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:38,149 then they just leave when I make them uncomfortable." I just wish people would 6236 01:54:38,149 --> 01:54:38,159 uncomfortable." I just wish people would 6237 01:54:38,159 --> 01:54:39,350 uncomfortable." I just wish people would communicate and tell me when they're 6238 01:54:39,350 --> 01:54:39,360 communicate and tell me when they're 6239 01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:41,109 communicate and tell me when they're uncomfortable so we can find solutions 6240 01:54:41,109 --> 01:54:41,119 uncomfortable so we can find solutions 6241 01:54:41,119 --> 01:54:43,990 uncomfortable so we can find solutions together. You're such a hypocrite. 6242 01:54:43,990 --> 01:54:44,000 together. You're such a hypocrite. 6243 01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:45,430 together. You're such a hypocrite. because I'm communicating that I'm 6244 01:54:45,430 --> 01:54:45,440 because I'm communicating that I'm 6245 01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:47,109 because I'm communicating that I'm uncomfortable. Suddenly, I'm a gullible 6246 01:54:47,109 --> 01:54:47,119 uncomfortable. Suddenly, I'm a gullible 6247 01:54:47,119 --> 01:54:48,870 uncomfortable. Suddenly, I'm a gullible [\h__\h] Gee, I wonder why your friends 6248 01:54:48,870 --> 01:54:48,880 [\h__\h] Gee, I wonder why your friends 6249 01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:50,149 [\h__\h] Gee, I wonder why your friends don't feel like they can communicate 6250 01:54:50,149 --> 01:54:50,159 don't feel like they can communicate 6251 01:54:50,159 --> 01:54:51,990 don't feel like they can communicate with you. You can go back over the 6252 01:54:51,990 --> 01:54:52,000 with you. You can go back over the 6253 01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:53,830 with you. You can go back over the podcast we did talking about personal 6254 01:54:53,830 --> 01:54:53,840 podcast we did talking about personal 6255 01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:55,669 podcast we did talking about personal trauma where I bring up most of the 6256 01:54:55,669 --> 01:54:55,679 trauma where I bring up most of the 6257 01:54:55,679 --> 01:54:57,109 trauma where I bring up most of the stuff and she's just kind of 6258 01:54:57,109 --> 01:54:57,119 stuff and she's just kind of 6259 01:54:57,119 --> 01:54:58,870 stuff and she's just kind of disinterested in anything that isn't 6260 01:54:58,870 --> 01:54:58,880 disinterested in anything that isn't 6261 01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:00,870 disinterested in anything that isn't about her. We just kind of accepted 6262 01:55:00,870 --> 01:55:00,880 about her. We just kind of accepted 6263 01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:02,790 about her. We just kind of accepted that. I mean, it's not that KP was a 6264 01:55:02,790 --> 01:55:02,800 that. I mean, it's not that KP was a 6265 01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:04,550 that. I mean, it's not that KP was a shitty friend. It's just that she was 6266 01:55:04,550 --> 01:55:04,560 shitty friend. It's just that she was 6267 01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:05,910 shitty friend. It's just that she was just kind of there and it was something 6268 01:55:05,910 --> 01:55:05,920 just kind of there and it was something 6269 01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:08,229 just kind of there and it was something that made cutting the thread upon KP 6270 01:55:08,229 --> 01:55:08,239 that made cutting the thread upon KP 6271 01:55:08,239 --> 01:55:10,149 that made cutting the thread upon KP crossing my strictest boundaries easier 6272 01:55:10,149 --> 01:55:10,159 crossing my strictest boundaries easier 6273 01:55:10,159 --> 01:55:11,750 crossing my strictest boundaries easier to do. Let's talk about how I didn't 6274 01:55:11,750 --> 01:55:11,760 to do. Let's talk about how I didn't 6275 01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:13,030 to do. Let's talk about how I didn't want to interrupt someone who's talking 6276 01:55:13,030 --> 01:55:13,040 want to interrupt someone who's talking 6277 01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:15,030 want to interrupt someone who's talking about their trauma. Michaela also had to 6278 01:55:15,030 --> 01:55:15,040 about their trauma. Michaela also had to 6279 01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:16,709 about their trauma. Michaela also had to push me to communicate with Lily. And 6280 01:55:16,709 --> 01:55:16,719 push me to communicate with Lily. And 6281 01:55:16,719 --> 01:55:18,390 push me to communicate with Lily. And Lily actively flirting with me was a 6282 01:55:18,390 --> 01:55:18,400 Lily actively flirting with me was a 6283 01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:21,030 Lily actively flirting with me was a little uncomfy, especially live. Like 6284 01:55:21,030 --> 01:55:21,040 little uncomfy, especially live. Like 6285 01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:23,270 little uncomfy, especially live. Like literally everyone, [\h__\h] you. KP is an 6286 01:55:23,270 --> 01:55:23,280 literally everyone, [\h__\h] you. KP is an 6287 01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:26,550 literally everyone, [\h__\h] you. KP is an absolutely lovely person. Yay. I'm I'm 6288 01:55:26,550 --> 01:55:26,560 absolutely lovely person. Yay. I'm I'm 6289 01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:28,629 absolutely lovely person. Yay. I'm I'm I'm going to slowly I've made this joke 6290 01:55:28,629 --> 01:55:28,639 I'm going to slowly I've made this joke 6291 01:55:28,639 --> 01:55:30,149 I'm going to slowly I've made this joke like privately, but like I'm slowly 6292 01:55:30,149 --> 01:55:30,159 like privately, but like I'm slowly 6293 01:55:30,159 --> 01:55:31,990 like privately, but like I'm slowly going to acquire a lesbian army and take 6294 01:55:31,990 --> 01:55:32,000 going to acquire a lesbian army and take 6295 01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:33,910 going to acquire a lesbian army and take over the world. Just give it time. 6296 01:55:33,910 --> 01:55:33,920 over the world. Just give it time. 6297 01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:36,149 over the world. Just give it time. Anyway, that is like that is the that is 6298 01:55:36,149 --> 01:55:36,159 Anyway, that is like that is the that is 6299 01:55:36,159 --> 01:55:38,070 Anyway, that is like that is the that is that is the most aggressive polycule 6300 01:55:38,070 --> 01:55:38,080 that is the most aggressive polycule 6301 01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:40,629 that is the most aggressive polycule ever. Lily clearly never ever wanted to 6302 01:55:40,629 --> 01:55:40,639 ever. Lily clearly never ever wanted to 6303 01:55:40,639 --> 01:55:42,470 ever. Lily clearly never ever wanted to [\h__\h] me. Never ever. And I never ever 6304 01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:42,480 [\h__\h] me. Never ever. And I never ever 6305 01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:44,229 [\h__\h] me. Never ever. And I never ever had a reason to not want to open up to 6306 01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:44,239 had a reason to not want to open up to 6307 01:55:44,239 --> 01:55:45,830 had a reason to not want to open up to her. And she seems to think that's some 6308 01:55:45,830 --> 01:55:45,840 her. And she seems to think that's some 6309 01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:47,350 her. And she seems to think that's some kind of personal slight against her. 6310 01:55:47,350 --> 01:55:47,360 kind of personal slight against her. 6311 01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:48,790 kind of personal slight against her. That I never warmed up to her in the way 6312 01:55:48,790 --> 01:55:48,800 That I never warmed up to her in the way 6313 01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:50,790 That I never warmed up to her in the way she wanted me to. Then I learned about 6314 01:55:50,790 --> 01:55:50,800 she wanted me to. Then I learned about 6315 01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:52,790 she wanted me to. Then I learned about how she raped her sister and about 6316 01:55:52,790 --> 01:55:52,800 how she raped her sister and about 6317 01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:54,709 how she raped her sister and about Stockholm and the dog [\h__\h] And you 6318 01:55:54,709 --> 01:55:54,719 Stockholm and the dog [\h__\h] And you 6319 01:55:54,719 --> 01:55:56,229 Stockholm and the dog [\h__\h] And you [\h__\h] wonder where I'm like, "Yeah, 6320 01:55:56,229 --> 01:55:56,239 [\h__\h] wonder where I'm like, "Yeah, 6321 01:55:56,239 --> 01:55:58,070 [\h__\h] wonder where I'm like, "Yeah, maybe Lily Orchard isn't like the best 6322 01:55:58,070 --> 01:55:58,080 maybe Lily Orchard isn't like the best 6323 01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:00,790 maybe Lily Orchard isn't like the best person." Well, stay away from her then. 6324 01:56:00,790 --> 01:56:00,800 person." Well, stay away from her then. 6325 01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:02,870 person." Well, stay away from her then. This isn't even to call KP a bad person 6326 01:56:02,870 --> 01:56:02,880 This isn't even to call KP a bad person 6327 01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:05,109 This isn't even to call KP a bad person for being an aloof, self-centered weirdo 6328 01:56:05,109 --> 01:56:05,119 for being an aloof, self-centered weirdo 6329 01:56:05,119 --> 01:56:07,189 for being an aloof, self-centered weirdo who's always disassociating. Lily, 6330 01:56:07,189 --> 01:56:07,199 who's always disassociating. Lily, 6331 01:56:07,199 --> 01:56:09,109 who's always disassociating. Lily, you're being ableist. Just because you 6332 01:56:09,109 --> 01:56:09,119 you're being ableist. Just because you 6333 01:56:09,119 --> 01:56:10,950 you're being ableist. Just because you also have PTSD doesn't mean it's cool to 6334 01:56:10,950 --> 01:56:10,960 also have PTSD doesn't mean it's cool to 6335 01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:13,189 also have PTSD doesn't mean it's cool to say that I'm odd in the head. It's just 6336 01:56:13,189 --> 01:56:13,199 say that I'm odd in the head. It's just 6337 01:56:13,199 --> 01:56:15,350 say that I'm odd in the head. It's just that all that stuff made me realize I 6338 01:56:15,350 --> 01:56:15,360 that all that stuff made me realize I 6339 01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:17,589 that all that stuff made me realize I wasn't really going to miss her. Oh no, 6340 01:56:17,589 --> 01:56:17,599 wasn't really going to miss her. Oh no, 6341 01:56:17,599 --> 01:56:19,510 wasn't really going to miss her. Oh no, the incestuous pedophile rapist doesn't 6342 01:56:19,510 --> 01:56:19,520 the incestuous pedophile rapist doesn't 6343 01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:21,270 the incestuous pedophile rapist doesn't want me in her poly kill anymore. 6344 01:56:21,270 --> 01:56:21,280 want me in her poly kill anymore. 6345 01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:24,550 want me in her poly kill anymore. Whatever shall I do? Stop. Don't come 6346 01:56:24,550 --> 01:56:24,560 Whatever shall I do? Stop. Don't come 6347 01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:26,550 Whatever shall I do? Stop. Don't come back. In general, you should always be 6348 01:56:26,550 --> 01:56:26,560 back. In general, you should always be 6349 01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:28,709 back. In general, you should always be extremely suspicious of any accuser who 6350 01:56:28,709 --> 01:56:28,719 extremely suspicious of any accuser who 6351 01:56:28,719 --> 01:56:30,310 extremely suspicious of any accuser who tries to convince you not to listen to 6352 01:56:30,310 --> 01:56:30,320 tries to convince you not to listen to 6353 01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:32,310 tries to convince you not to listen to the accused response. But that's what 6354 01:56:32,310 --> 01:56:32,320 the accused response. But that's what 6355 01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:35,109 the accused response. But that's what you did, Lily. That's what you did. Oh, 6356 01:56:35,109 --> 01:56:35,119 you did, Lily. That's what you did. Oh, 6357 01:56:35,119 --> 01:56:36,870 you did, Lily. That's what you did. Oh, PS. Yes, on the Britney section, Lily 6358 01:56:36,870 --> 01:56:36,880 PS. Yes, on the Britney section, Lily 6359 01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:38,709 PS. Yes, on the Britney section, Lily cropped out a lot of Britney's talking 6360 01:56:38,709 --> 01:56:38,719 cropped out a lot of Britney's talking 6361 01:56:38,719 --> 01:56:40,390 cropped out a lot of Britney's talking points to sound like she was talking to 6362 01:56:40,390 --> 01:56:40,400 points to sound like she was talking to 6363 01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:42,629 points to sound like she was talking to herself. So, go check Britney's logs and 6364 01:56:42,629 --> 01:56:42,639 herself. So, go check Britney's logs and 6365 01:56:42,639 --> 01:56:44,470 herself. So, go check Britney's logs and report back. That's your homework. 6366 01:56:44,470 --> 01:56:44,480 report back. That's your homework. 6367 01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:45,910 report back. That's your homework. Unless you're stupid enough to believe 6368 01:56:45,910 --> 01:56:45,920 Unless you're stupid enough to believe 6369 01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:48,550 Unless you're stupid enough to believe Lily on her word, which, you know, can't 6370 01:56:48,550 --> 01:56:48,560 Lily on her word, which, you know, can't 6371 01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:50,790 Lily on her word, which, you know, can't really help you there. And also, she cut 6372 01:56:50,790 --> 01:56:50,800 really help you there. And also, she cut 6373 01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:52,229 really help you there. And also, she cut out all the dog [\h__\h] pictures in the 6374 01:56:52,229 --> 01:56:52,239 out all the dog [\h__\h] pictures in the 6375 01:56:52,239 --> 01:56:59,390 out all the dog [\h__\h] pictures in the patch section. So, you 6376 01:56:59,390 --> 01:56:59,400 6377 01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:02,709 know, when we were So, we start we 6378 01:57:02,709 --> 01:57:02,719 know, when we were So, we start we 6379 01:57:02,719 --> 01:57:04,470 know, when we were So, we start we started school at like five or six. Lily 6380 01:57:04,470 --> 01:57:04,480 started school at like five or six. Lily 6381 01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:06,470 started school at like five or six. Lily started at 5:00. I started at 6:00. And 6382 01:57:06,470 --> 01:57:06,480 started at 5:00. I started at 6:00. And 6383 01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,550 started at 5:00. I started at 6:00. And we always got the bus up at the top 6384 01:57:08,550 --> 01:57:08,560 we always got the bus up at the top 6385 01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:10,310 we always got the bus up at the top entrance of the uh the trailer park 6386 01:57:10,310 --> 01:57:10,320 entrance of the uh the trailer park 6387 01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:11,990 entrance of the uh the trailer park where there was the store. Now, the 6388 01:57:11,990 --> 01:57:12,000 where there was the store. Now, the 6389 01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:13,669 where there was the store. Now, the trailer park used to be gated for 6390 01:57:13,669 --> 01:57:13,679 trailer park used to be gated for 6391 01:57:13,679 --> 01:57:16,709 trailer park used to be gated for whatever reason. And the the stone walls 6392 01:57:16,709 --> 01:57:16,719 whatever reason. And the the stone walls 6393 01:57:16,719 --> 01:57:18,629 whatever reason. And the the stone walls that held the gates are still in place. 6394 01:57:18,629 --> 01:57:18,639 that held the gates are still in place. 6395 01:57:18,639 --> 01:57:19,910 that held the gates are still in place. I'm pretty sure they might even still be 6396 01:57:19,910 --> 01:57:19,920 I'm pretty sure they might even still be 6397 01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:21,430 I'm pretty sure they might even still be there to this day, but they were when we 6398 01:57:21,430 --> 01:57:21,440 there to this day, but they were when we 6399 01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:23,589 there to this day, but they were when we were growing up. And you know, people 6400 01:57:23,589 --> 01:57:23,599 were growing up. And you know, people 6401 01:57:23,599 --> 01:57:26,070 were growing up. And you know, people used to just stick their chewed gum to 6402 01:57:26,070 --> 01:57:26,080 used to just stick their chewed gum to 6403 01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:29,350 used to just stick their chewed gum to it to discard their gum. Yeah. And while 6404 01:57:29,350 --> 01:57:29,360 it to discard their gum. Yeah. And while 6405 01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:31,270 it to discard their gum. Yeah. And while we were waiting for the bus up by that 6406 01:57:31,270 --> 01:57:31,280 we were waiting for the bus up by that 6407 01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:33,350 we were waiting for the bus up by that store, Lily made a habit starting at 6408 01:57:33,350 --> 01:57:33,360 store, Lily made a habit starting at 6409 01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:36,390 store, Lily made a habit starting at like 7 years old of like peeling the gum 6410 01:57:36,390 --> 01:57:36,400 like 7 years old of like peeling the gum 6411 01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:39,189 like 7 years old of like peeling the gum off of this wall and eating it. Not like 6412 01:57:39,189 --> 01:57:39,199 off of this wall and eating it. Not like 6413 01:57:39,199 --> 01:57:41,430 off of this wall and eating it. Not like chewing it, just like swallowing it, 6414 01:57:41,430 --> 01:57:41,440 chewing it, just like swallowing it, 6415 01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:44,229 chewing it, just like swallowing it, just eating it. It reminds me of that 6416 01:57:44,229 --> 01:57:44,239 just eating it. It reminds me of that 6417 01:57:44,239 --> 01:57:45,750 just eating it. It reminds me of that scene in Elf where he's just going 6418 01:57:45,750 --> 01:57:45,760 scene in Elf where he's just going 6419 01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:47,270 scene in Elf where he's just going around New York City and he's just like 6420 01:57:47,270 --> 01:57:47,280 around New York City and he's just like 6421 01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:50,470 around New York City and he's just like picking the gum off the the sidewalks. 6422 01:57:50,470 --> 01:57:50,480 picking the gum off the the sidewalks. 6423 01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:53,669 picking the gum off the the sidewalks. Exactly. And and it was so funny because 6424 01:57:53,669 --> 01:57:53,679 Exactly. And and it was so funny because 6425 01:57:53,679 --> 01:57:55,510 Exactly. And and it was so funny because I'd see her doing it and then of course 6426 01:57:55,510 --> 01:57:55,520 I'd see her doing it and then of course 6427 01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:57,189 I'd see her doing it and then of course being 6 years old and that being 6428 01:57:57,189 --> 01:57:57,199 being 6 years old and that being 6429 01:57:57,199 --> 01:57:58,950 being 6 years old and that being disgusting, I'd go rat her out to her 6430 01:57:58,950 --> 01:57:58,960 disgusting, I'd go rat her out to her 6431 01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:00,790 disgusting, I'd go rat her out to her mother and her mother would come over 6432 01:58:00,790 --> 01:58:00,800 mother and her mother would come over 6433 01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:02,709 mother and her mother would come over and start screaming at her to drop the 6434 01:58:02,709 --> 01:58:02,719 and start screaming at her to drop the 6435 01:58:02,719 --> 01:58:05,109 and start screaming at her to drop the gum and like a dog with something it's 6436 01:58:05,109 --> 01:58:05,119 gum and like a dog with something it's 6437 01:58:05,119 --> 01:58:06,790 gum and like a dog with something it's not supposed to eat, Lily would just 6438 01:58:06,790 --> 01:58:06,800 not supposed to eat, Lily would just 6439 01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:10,149 not supposed to eat, Lily would just start shoving it into her mouth faster. 6440 01:58:10,149 --> 01:58:10,159 start shoving it into her mouth faster. 6441 01:58:10,159 --> 01:58:12,390 start shoving it into her mouth faster. Did she ever get sick like from this? 6442 01:58:12,390 --> 01:58:12,400 Did she ever get sick like from this? 6443 01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:14,990 Did she ever get sick like from this? Cuz this is like like 6444 01:58:14,990 --> 01:58:15,000 Cuz this is like like 6445 01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:17,750 Cuz this is like like like who who knows who's putting the gum 6446 01:58:17,750 --> 01:58:17,760 like who who knows who's putting the gum 6447 01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:20,229 like who who knows who's putting the gum there? I've been asked that before, but 6448 01:58:20,229 --> 01:58:20,239 there? I've been asked that before, but 6449 01:58:20,239 --> 01:58:23,750 there? I've been asked that before, but surprisingly I don't think she ever did. 6450 01:58:23,750 --> 01:58:23,760 surprisingly I don't think she ever did. 6451 01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:26,950 surprisingly I don't think she ever did. Like she wasn't sick a lot as a kid. 6452 01:58:26,950 --> 01:58:26,960 Like she wasn't sick a lot as a kid. 6453 01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:28,870 Like she wasn't sick a lot as a kid. Other than like the scarlet fever and 6454 01:58:28,870 --> 01:58:28,880 Other than like the scarlet fever and 6455 01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:30,310 Other than like the scarlet fever and the chickenpox, she really didn't 6456 01:58:30,310 --> 01:58:30,320 the chickenpox, she really didn't 6457 01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:31,750 the chickenpox, she really didn't actually get sick that much. Neither of 6458 01:58:31,750 --> 01:58:31,760 actually get sick that much. Neither of 6459 01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:34,310 actually get sick that much. Neither of us really did. But no, she just like and 6460 01:58:34,310 --> 01:58:34,320 us really did. But no, she just like and 6461 01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:36,550 us really did. But no, she just like and it was it was such a problem that like 6462 01:58:36,550 --> 01:58:36,560 it was it was such a problem that like 6463 01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:38,030 it was it was such a problem that like we switched bus 6464 01:58:38,030 --> 01:58:38,040 we switched bus 6465 01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:40,390 we switched bus stops because she wouldn't stop eating 6466 01:58:40,390 --> 01:58:40,400 stops because she wouldn't stop eating 6467 01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:43,669 stops because she wouldn't stop eating the gum. 6468 01:58:43,669 --> 01:58:43,679 6469 01:58:43,679 --> 01:58:45,750 So, what was the reason that like she 6470 01:58:45,750 --> 01:58:45,760 So, what was the reason that like she 6471 01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:48,629 So, what was the reason that like she was even just just out of like boredom 6472 01:58:48,629 --> 01:58:48,639 was even just just out of like boredom 6473 01:58:48,639 --> 01:58:50,790 was even just just out of like boredom or something? Or like she found the gum 6474 01:58:50,790 --> 01:58:50,800 or something? Or like she found the gum 6475 01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:52,550 or something? Or like she found the gum and she's like, "Ooh, that's colorful. 6476 01:58:52,550 --> 01:58:52,560 and she's like, "Ooh, that's colorful. 6477 01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:54,550 and she's like, "Ooh, that's colorful. I'm going to put it in my mouth." That's 6478 01:58:54,550 --> 01:58:54,560 I'm going to put it in my mouth." That's 6479 01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:55,629 I'm going to put it in my mouth." That's what she 6480 01:58:55,629 --> 01:58:55,639 what she 6481 01:58:55,639 --> 01:58:59,189 what she said. I mean, if she was really that 6482 01:58:59,189 --> 01:58:59,199 said. I mean, if she was really that 6483 01:58:59,199 --> 01:59:01,350 said. I mean, if she was really that like mentally incapacitated at seven, 6484 01:59:01,350 --> 01:59:01,360 like mentally incapacitated at seven, 6485 01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:03,589 like mentally incapacitated at seven, maybe that was the mindset. I really 6486 01:59:03,589 --> 01:59:03,599 maybe that was the mindset. I really 6487 01:59:03,599 --> 01:59:06,310 maybe that was the mindset. I really couldn't tell you what what brings one 6488 01:59:06,310 --> 01:59:06,320 couldn't tell you what what brings one 6489 01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:10,070 couldn't tell you what what brings one to seed gum crammed into a stone wall 6490 01:59:10,070 --> 01:59:10,080 to seed gum crammed into a stone wall 6491 01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:11,589 to seed gum crammed into a stone wall that makes you think I should put that 6492 01:59:11,589 --> 01:59:11,599 that makes you think I should put that 6493 01:59:11,599 --> 01:59:13,830 that makes you think I should put that in my mouth and then you go through the 6494 01:59:13,830 --> 01:59:13,840 in my mouth and then you go through the 6495 01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:16,390 in my mouth and then you go through the effort of prying it off with little the 6496 01:59:16,390 --> 01:59:16,400 effort of prying it off with little the 6497 01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:18,229 effort of prying it off with little the all the little stones that are in it and 6498 01:59:18,229 --> 01:59:18,239 all the little stones that are in it and 6499 01:59:18,239 --> 01:59:21,589 all the little stones that are in it and you just go yes in my mouth it goes 6500 01:59:21,589 --> 01:59:21,599 you just go yes in my mouth it goes 6501 01:59:21,599 --> 01:59:24,070 you just go yes in my mouth it goes uh I mean like you made a good point 6502 01:59:24,070 --> 01:59:24,080 uh I mean like you made a good point 6503 01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:25,750 uh I mean like you made a good point that even when you were younger you kind 6504 01:59:25,750 --> 01:59:25,760 that even when you were younger you kind 6505 01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:27,270 that even when you were younger you kind of knew that was a little off so it's 6506 01:59:27,270 --> 01:59:27,280 of knew that was a little off so it's 6507 01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:29,510 of knew that was a little off so it's not like she you know was just being a 6508 01:59:29,510 --> 01:59:29,520 not like she you know was just being a 6509 01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:31,350 not like she you know was just being a dumb kid. I mean, I guess to some 6510 01:59:31,350 --> 01:59:31,360 dumb kid. I mean, I guess to some 6511 01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:34,149 dumb kid. I mean, I guess to some extent, but like at the same time, 6512 01:59:34,149 --> 01:59:34,159 extent, but like at the same time, 6513 01:59:34,159 --> 01:59:36,229 extent, but like at the same time, speaking because for Lily, like negative 6514 01:59:36,229 --> 01:59:36,239 speaking because for Lily, like negative 6515 01:59:36,239 --> 01:59:38,310 speaking because for Lily, like negative attention was still attention and 6516 01:59:38,310 --> 01:59:38,320 attention was still attention and 6517 01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:39,830 attention was still attention and getting yelled at by her parents was 6518 01:59:39,830 --> 01:59:39,840 getting yelled at by her parents was 6519 01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:41,430 getting yelled at by her parents was attention. So, whatever whatever made 6520 01:59:41,430 --> 01:59:41,440 attention. So, whatever whatever made 6521 01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:44,629 attention. So, whatever whatever made that happen was a good thing. And like 6522 01:59:44,629 --> 01:59:44,639 that happen was a good thing. And like 6523 01:59:44,639 --> 01:59:46,229 that happen was a good thing. And like someone might suggest someone might 6524 01:59:46,229 --> 01:59:46,239 someone might suggest someone might 6525 01:59:46,239 --> 01:59:47,510 someone might suggest someone might suggest in the comments of this video 6526 01:59:47,510 --> 01:59:47,520 suggest in the comments of this video 6527 01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:49,990 suggest in the comments of this video that maybe Lily had pika. No, she didn't 6528 01:59:49,990 --> 01:59:50,000 that maybe Lily had pika. No, she didn't 6529 01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:51,669 that maybe Lily had pika. No, she didn't cuz she didn't eat weird things like she 6530 01:59:51,669 --> 01:59:51,679 cuz she didn't eat weird things like she 6531 01:59:51,679 --> 01:59:53,830 cuz she didn't eat weird things like she didn't like pick off the drywall and eat 6532 01:59:53,830 --> 01:59:53,840 didn't like pick off the drywall and eat 6533 01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:55,910 didn't like pick off the drywall and eat it or eat stones. No, it was just 6534 01:59:55,910 --> 01:59:55,920 it or eat stones. No, it was just 6535 01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:59,270 it or eat stones. No, it was just already chewed gum. What is pika? It's a 6536 01:59:59,270 --> 01:59:59,280 already chewed gum. What is pika? It's a 6537 01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:01,430 already chewed gum. What is pika? It's a it's like a I think it's classified as a 6538 02:00:01,430 --> 02:00:01,440 it's like a I think it's classified as a 6539 02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:03,030 it's like a I think it's classified as a disorder, but it's a phenomenon where 6540 02:00:03,030 --> 02:00:03,040 disorder, but it's a phenomenon where 6541 02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:04,629 disorder, but it's a phenomenon where people will start eating things that are 6542 02:00:04,629 --> 02:00:04,639 people will start eating things that are 6543 02:00:04,639 --> 02:00:06,870 people will start eating things that are not food items and typically it's 6544 02:00:06,870 --> 02:00:06,880 not food items and typically it's 6545 02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:09,030 not food items and typically it's because of like a mineral deficiency or 6546 02:00:09,030 --> 02:00:09,040 because of like a mineral deficiency or 6547 02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:11,430 because of like a mineral deficiency or something. I think there's also links to 6548 02:00:11,430 --> 02:00:11,440 something. I think there's also links to 6549 02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:13,510 something. I think there's also links to um like psychological issues, but a lot 6550 02:00:13,510 --> 02:00:13,520 um like psychological issues, but a lot 6551 02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:15,270 um like psychological issues, but a lot of the times it's your body is seeking 6552 02:00:15,270 --> 02:00:15,280 of the times it's your body is seeking 6553 02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:17,270 of the times it's your body is seeking some sort of vitamin or mineral and then 6554 02:00:17,270 --> 02:00:17,280 some sort of vitamin or mineral and then 6555 02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:18,950 some sort of vitamin or mineral and then you end up somehow getting that from 6556 02:00:18,950 --> 02:00:18,960 you end up somehow getting that from 6557 02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:21,910 you end up somehow getting that from eating non-food items. Usually it like 6558 02:00:21,910 --> 02:00:21,920 eating non-food items. Usually it like 6559 02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:23,910 eating non-food items. Usually it like happens in terms of like stone. Like 6560 02:00:23,910 --> 02:00:23,920 happens in terms of like stone. Like 6561 02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:25,669 happens in terms of like stone. Like you'll find people eating rocks and it 6562 02:00:25,669 --> 02:00:25,679 you'll find people eating rocks and it 6563 02:00:25,679 --> 02:00:27,189 you'll find people eating rocks and it turns out that they have like a calcium 6564 02:00:27,189 --> 02:00:27,199 turns out that they have like a calcium 6565 02:00:27,199 --> 02:00:29,910 turns out that they have like a calcium or something deficiency 6566 02:00:29,910 --> 02:00:29,920 or something deficiency 6567 02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:32,070 or something deficiency like so so how long did this go on for 6568 02:00:32,070 --> 02:00:32,080 like so so how long did this go on for 6569 02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:35,430 like so so how long did this go on for like a year or two? Uh no it was a good 6570 02:00:35,430 --> 02:00:35,440 like a year or two? Uh no it was a good 6571 02:00:35,440 --> 02:00:36,870 like a year or two? Uh no it was a good like it was a good couple of weeks 6572 02:00:36,870 --> 02:00:36,880 like it was a good couple of weeks 6573 02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:38,870 like it was a good couple of weeks because like our mom was on her every 6574 02:00:38,870 --> 02:00:38,880 because like our mom was on her every 6575 02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:40,870 because like our mom was on her every time it got to the point where when we 6576 02:00:40,870 --> 02:00:40,880 time it got to the point where when we 6577 02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:42,550 time it got to the point where when we would go walk to the bus stop in the 6578 02:00:42,550 --> 02:00:42,560 would go walk to the bus stop in the 6579 02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:44,709 would go walk to the bus stop in the morning she would be like now Lily don't 6580 02:00:44,709 --> 02:00:44,719 morning she would be like now Lily don't 6581 02:00:44,719 --> 02:00:46,709 morning she would be like now Lily don't eat the [\h__\h] gum off the wall. Like 6582 02:00:46,709 --> 02:00:46,719 eat the [\h__\h] gum off the wall. Like 6583 02:00:46,719 --> 02:00:48,470 eat the [\h__\h] gum off the wall. Like just sit there and lecture her. And then 6584 02:00:48,470 --> 02:00:48,480 just sit there and lecture her. And then 6585 02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:50,790 just sit there and lecture her. And then like I don't know, like a handicapped 6586 02:00:50,790 --> 02:00:50,800 like I don't know, like a handicapped 6587 02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:53,030 like I don't know, like a handicapped toddler, she got off the leash and then 6588 02:00:53,030 --> 02:00:53,040 toddler, she got off the leash and then 6589 02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:55,430 toddler, she got off the leash and then would go straight for the gum. 6590 02:00:55,430 --> 02:00:55,440 would go straight for the gum. 6591 02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:57,270 would go straight for the gum. I like how there's already fan art of 6592 02:00:57,270 --> 02:00:57,280 I like how there's already fan art of 6593 02:00:57,280 --> 02:00:58,790 I like how there's already fan art of her like looking like a little golem 6594 02:00:58,790 --> 02:00:58,800 her like looking like a little golem 6595 02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:00,390 her like looking like a little golem eating the gum. Like we need more fan 6596 02:01:00,390 --> 02:01:00,400 eating the gum. Like we need more fan 6597 02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:02,870 eating the gum. Like we need more fan art of this. I mean, she kind of was 6598 02:01:02,870 --> 02:01:02,880 art of this. I mean, she kind of was 6599 02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:04,709 art of this. I mean, she kind of was like a little goblin cuz like it got to 6600 02:01:04,709 --> 02:01:04,719 like a little goblin cuz like it got to 6601 02:01:04,719 --> 02:01:06,550 like a little goblin cuz like it got to the point I mean it it happened enough 6602 02:01:06,550 --> 02:01:06,560 the point I mean it it happened enough 6603 02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:09,270 the point I mean it it happened enough times that the other kids at the bus 6604 02:01:09,270 --> 02:01:09,280 times that the other kids at the bus 6605 02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:11,270 times that the other kids at the bus stop would just kind of like hang off 6606 02:01:11,270 --> 02:01:11,280 stop would just kind of like hang off 6607 02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:13,109 stop would just kind of like hang off like a little bit of ways from the wall 6608 02:01:13,109 --> 02:01:13,119 like a little bit of ways from the wall 6609 02:01:13,119 --> 02:01:17,910 like a little bit of ways from the wall and just sort of watch her do it. Uh, 6610 02:01:17,910 --> 02:01:17,920 and just sort of watch her do it. Uh, 6611 02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:20,070 and just sort of watch her do it. Uh, so she literally would be like crouched 6612 02:01:20,070 --> 02:01:20,080 so she literally would be like crouched 6613 02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:22,070 so she literally would be like crouched on top of this wall just with an 6614 02:01:22,070 --> 02:01:22,080 on top of this wall just with an 6615 02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:24,310 on top of this wall just with an audience just prying up this gum and 6616 02:01:24,310 --> 02:01:24,320 audience just prying up this gum and 6617 02:01:24,320 --> 02:01:28,310 audience just prying up this gum and thenum nom. Oh, that's nasty. And it was 6618 02:01:28,310 --> 02:01:28,320 thenum nom. Oh, that's nasty. And it was 6619 02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:30,149 thenum nom. Oh, that's nasty. And it was never like the same energy of when she 6620 02:01:30,149 --> 02:01:30,159 never like the same energy of when she 6621 02:01:30,159 --> 02:01:31,669 never like the same energy of when she chewed my Barbie shoes because she 6622 02:01:31,669 --> 02:01:31,679 chewed my Barbie shoes because she 6623 02:01:31,679 --> 02:01:33,030 chewed my Barbie shoes because she always had this habit of chewing up the 6624 02:01:33,030 --> 02:01:33,040 always had this habit of chewing up the 6625 02:01:33,040 --> 02:01:35,030 always had this habit of chewing up the shoes of my Barbies. Um, never their 6626 02:01:35,030 --> 02:01:35,040 shoes of my Barbies. Um, never their 6627 02:01:35,040 --> 02:01:36,870 shoes of my Barbies. Um, never their feet, but just the shoes, which honestly 6628 02:01:36,870 --> 02:01:36,880 feet, but just the shoes, which honestly 6629 02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:38,870 feet, but just the shoes, which honestly I just chocked up to, well, she's she's 6630 02:01:38,870 --> 02:01:38,880 I just chocked up to, well, she's she's 6631 02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:41,350 I just chocked up to, well, she's she's like ADHD and autistic. She chews on 6632 02:01:41,350 --> 02:01:41,360 like ADHD and autistic. She chews on 6633 02:01:41,360 --> 02:01:42,629 like ADHD and autistic. She chews on [\h__\h] Of course she chewed on the 6634 02:01:42,629 --> 02:01:42,639 [\h__\h] Of course she chewed on the 6635 02:01:42,639 --> 02:01:43,990 [\h__\h] Of course she chewed on the plastic shoes. It pissed me off, but 6636 02:01:43,990 --> 02:01:44,000 plastic shoes. It pissed me off, but 6637 02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:45,830 plastic shoes. It pissed me off, but whatever. But it was never the same 6638 02:01:45,830 --> 02:01:45,840 whatever. But it was never the same 6639 02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:47,910 whatever. But it was never the same energy because like it was only that 6640 02:01:47,910 --> 02:01:47,920 energy because like it was only that 6641 02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:51,350 energy because like it was only that wall. Oh, like yeah, it must have been 6642 02:01:51,350 --> 02:01:51,360 wall. Oh, like yeah, it must have been 6643 02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:55,350 wall. Oh, like yeah, it must have been for attention like which is doesn't make 6644 02:01:55,350 --> 02:01:55,360 for attention like which is doesn't make 6645 02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:58,510 for attention like which is doesn't make it not gross but like 6646 02:01:58,510 --> 02:01:58,520 it not gross but like 6647 02:01:58,520 --> 02:02:07,150 it not gross but like uh don't do that guys. 6648 02:02:07,150 --> 02:02:07,160 6649 02:02:07,160 --> 02:03:27,710 [Music]