etch.
[Music]
Still for a second chance,
makes me
stronger. Judge me.
with your gift of lights. I just
call the song of the
light. Feel the freedom like no
tomorrow.
[Music]
Stepping forth the cure for demise. The
tears of the victim's
crying more to kill the sufferer of the
demon as I put it under kill time to
kill them all pass
down justice
that nothing comes as far as We
are
the I can see you.
The
freom we are falling
[Music]
inside me. Call me
down. Call
[Music]
me
until
rest
until the existence of God.
into a secret battlefield justification
[Music]
limit just
to feel with
innocent squeals. The gold seems to
satisfy
them
stronger quest for life and judgement
[Music]
I see dead people now. Chat, chat, chat,
chat, chat, chat, chat. I actually got
to fix my mic setting a little real
quick because for some reason it has me
very, very loud. Now, chat, there's one
more song I want to play. There's one
more song I want to play. I'm going to
let everybody in here. Chad, if you know
what's been going on on the internet
today, there's just one more thing to
play.
And you
know, let me let me find it. Let me find
it. Let me Oh my god. Let me see if I
can find it.
You know what? Sometimes I got to go to
my uh
[Music]
you didn't have it ready off.
I don't have it ready off rip. Holy
[\h__\h] Oh my god, that's really sad. The
joke is ruined. No, the bit is not
ruined. Give me a second. Give me a
second. Give me a second. Oh my god.
It's on Twitter. Find it. No, it's in my
history. Hold up. I got to find it.
Chat, I'm sorry. My bid is not ruined.
I've just been listening to this song
all day.
You listen to it all day, but you can't
remember it. Yeah, it sometimes that
happens. Wait for it. Wait for it. I
Okay. Uh, okay. So, this is the
channel and I'm going to pause that. So,
chat.
Oh my god. Oh my god. This goes out to
my friend Cameron F305 for crashing out
today on Aiden Project stream.
Buddy, this is for
you. Yes, chat. Live and alive from resi
itself. That was Cameron F305. And
welcome back everybody. Welcome,
welcome, welcome back to the Oplock,
your onestop shop for everything
commentary, news, and related. I am your
host,
Valy. Hey, Poison Days. Thank you so
much for
subscribing. Listen, chat, it's it's
going to be a very eventful day. It's
going to be a fun one. We're going to
have a good stream. I am trying to fix
my audio because I think I accidentally
made myself peak a little bit too much.
I was having fun and I may have [\h__\h]
with my audio levels. But chat, more
importantly, I'm joined by the most
fabulous people on the internet. I want
to make them a little bit smaller. You
know them. Wow. You're just Yeah, you're
too big. It's tiny. Yeah, you're not the
important one. Uh, you know them. Wow.
You love them. It's Ash. What's going
on, Ash? Apparently, I'm not that
important, so I guess not much.
No. As long as you know your place in
this world, that's perfectly fine. No,
no, no. How you doing? How you doing?
I'm doing fine.
Yo, you're the best. But more
importantly, hey, Yen with the two
months. Thank you. Thank you, dude. Yen
became a member. Yen celebrates two
months of membership. Two months of
opting blocks. But how many ops can an
OP block if an OP block could opt
blocks? Ah, that's very very many.
That's very many opy blockies and blocky
blockies and ops.
Yeah, when I saw you say that, Ky, I was
like, "Wait, what?" And they're like,
"Oh,
Ash just important." Ash is the one
getting the Twitter screenshots. Yes,
Ash did get Twitter screenshots. We got
a lot of them. We got a lot of Twitter
screenshots. We don't want to talk about
that today. But you know him, you love
him. He's always bringing up my rear.
It's uncool. Greg, what's going on,
Greg? I literally came from a burger
spot where I where I saw a a disgraced
musician and who I will not name. What
do you mean? Who what musician did you
see? No, you have I don't want to name
them. I don't I'm not going to name them
now, but uh they were they were a Tik
Tok trend this year not long ago.
And it was very funny. So, you're saying
that you saw like a disgraced like a
musician, like a person that's been on
the internet. And why are they
disgraced?
Um they scammed their fans among other
things. Oh, you got to tell us who it is
now. Who? No, I'm not gonna say it. Why?
I knew it was them because they were in
a in a Mercedes.
[Music]
That's That's not
good. What What's the
Okay. What's the first letter of their
name? No.
Wow. You're You're going to cuck the
chat like that. The chat is asking. Yes.
Oh, talk to Is it Is it the Hakua girl?
Did you see Hakua?
These notes. Yes. Octa. Hold on. Hold
on. Do you have things on? Can will
people hear this? If I Hello there. But
anyh who, I'm going to go to bed and
I'll see you guys tomorrow. Yes, they
can hear that. They they they would have
been able to hear that cuz the it goes
through the Discord. So, I don't I have
the soundboard on. I like the
soundboard. It's very funny to me. But
yes, chat, yes, they can't hear it. But
chat, more importantly, we have some
public service announcements to go on.
And wait, say
hua.
Hakua. Why? What I do? Do I say it
weirdly? Was that a child? No, that was
Hua Girl very famously. Hakua girl very
famously. Uh cuz she going to spit on
that
thing and uh then she scammed her fans
out of like thousands of
dollars. Oh my god. What did I do? Was
my hakua funny? What did I You had the
accent. You had the accent to her. I'm
walking it to her. Cameron F305.
Cameron F5 tipped
$4.20. P E A S S E E. I need T H I S S P
L E A S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S
S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S
S S S S E E. Let me G O O P L E A S S E
begging. Y O U. Thank you. Thank you.
Yeah, it is a joke. I know exactly who
that was. How dare you start before the
scheduled time. Most streamers I watch
make chat wait for at least five
minutes. Lol. Anyway, here's Dollar for
the Doggy. Thank you. Thank you. No, we
are uh uh I wanted to start a little bit
early. Uh I wanted to start a little bit
early today. Thank you. Thank you. The
reason being uh like straight up there's
a lot of public service announcements
before we start the stream. So, I kind
of wanted to get those out of the way
before
uh we get on with it because there is a
lot. We're gonna get to it. Um we're
going to get to all the research that
we've done. Uh thank you uh to everybody
else uh
regarding uh all okay we'll get to that
because I do think that there's a lot of
stuff that I I need to preface and cover
um before having any of those public
service announcements. But in the
ongoing coverage of Cameron
F5, you know who Aiden Underground is.
Oh, he crashed out live on that [\h__\h]
stream. Um, a W. Dickers, by the way,
um, it's hilarious. It's probably one of
the funniest things I've ever seen. That
kid is searching for an audio clip live.
And everyone's like, "Huh? It sounds
like you're editing the audio clip
live." And he's like, "Uh, no, I'm not."
And everyone's just like, "Just show
your screen. Show the file name and show
the screen." Why do I have to do that?
Why Why do I have to Why do I have to do
that? Why would I ever have to do that?
And listen, I'm not saying that he's
edit editing his calls with a with
Jelly. I'm not saying that. But you can
watch the stream yourself on Aiden's
channel and you yourself can decide if
you think that he's trying to hide some
[\h__\h] from you chat because the whole
chat was like, "Huh, really interesting
that he keeps saying he has the
information and he's not showing it."
And then after [\h__\h] arguing, spuring
out, crying his [\h__\h] little eyes out
in chat and and on the
stream, he then later messages Aiden
after everything's said and done being
like, "To, I'm not going to message you
the audio clips that would exonerate me
because uh they're lame and I don't
think that I should engage in this
conversation anymore." So
again, Cameron F305 has once again run
from debates. Cameron, thank you so
much. F35 tipped
$4.20. Don't listen to this man. I would
never edit audio live. This is fake
information.
Mhm. Also, also Cameron is like, "Oh,
blah blah blah blah. This guy said fs
slur. They're smaller than me, brother.
Who cares?"
I'm like I'm sitting there being like is
he is he really doing the big dog number
thing when why did he show up on the
stream? Well, because he thought Aiden
wouldn't know enough about him, which to
be fair, Aiden didn't do his research
when meeting with him. Uh they they
allegedly had a previous conversation
that I said this on Dicker stream. Um
and I'll say it again. Uh, Aiden, if you
hear this, you should leak that call
because Cameron says that you're lying
live on your show. That's like, no, you
didn't say that. You didn't tell me this
before we started. You didn't. And he's
just out outlined saying that he that
that you're lying on his show. I say
leak it. Uh, I'm not usually one to say
leak certain things. Um, I like we're
going to get into things I'm not going
to reveal to you guys obviously because
there are things that are off the
record. So, we're not going to get into
it. Uh, what do you mean? Because you
said you said I'm going to get into
things I'm not going to talk about. No,
I'm going to lay the I'm going to lay
the groundwork of what I will and will
not cover today.
Um, but by co by by by saying what
you're not going to cover, are you It's
all public It's all public
information. We will get there. We will
get there. But you know, I'm just going
to say it now. Cameron, you're looking
guiltier and guiltier every day. I'm
waiting for your video, buddy. Where is
it at? I've been
waiting. Is it going to be as [\h__\h] as
the last one? I don't know. Hi F. Thank
you so much for
[Applause]
subscribing. Oh my god. Dickers raid.
Hello dick riders. Dick riders. Hello
dickers. I hope that 9 hours stream went
well. 8 hours stream. 9 hours. Yeah, the
dickers hours and I had to go do all
work. Jeez. Had to do house work. What?
All the Europeans have all the stamina.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They do. They do
got the stamina. How long have you been
waiting Fei? I've been waiting a while.
Been waiting a while for this. Uh
Dickers, if you're still in chat, I was
talking you up saying that your
conversation with Cameron was hilarious.
Uh, truly one of those funnier [\h__\h]
moments. I love it. Listen, if people
are going to talk [\h__\h] and then run out
of a call to then go into another call
bitching and moaning about the person
who presses them, I don't know what to
tell you. It's insane. Again, Cameron,
maybe you shouldn't be like literally
looking for stuff live and it clearly
sounds like you're cutting things live.
Like it literally like Oh, I found the
clip. The clip is constantly changing
minute times. Really weird. Wait, the
thing is, hope you all have a great
stream. Thank you. I'll catch the vod
after work. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
you. Appreciate it.
Is my bed made? Yeah. Is your bed made?
We can't have another Aito V. No, my bed
is my bed is made. Uh the big the big
thing is like my dog. She's right there.
You can't see her right now. This is
your first time on the stream. That's my
dog, Leia. When we reach uh tip goals,
she does get a treat. Uh but she won't
mess it up. I made it and then
immediately she went from side to side
on the bed and it was very very weird.
Very very interesting. Um yeah, but I
was also going to say real quick like
didn't also Cameron do that with Diesel
where he was uh like just trying to
stall for time like trying to find a
call and never did. Yes. Uh he openly uh
unironically did a 20 minute pregnant
pause on Aiden's stream looking for an
audio clip and Aiden's telling him how
to use audio editing
software like this kid has never done it
before. It's a literally it's it's an
intentional act. I meant to send this to
Dickers. You can have this. Hey Droid,
thank you. Thank you. Pass it
along the $2. Yeah, thank you. He
completely does it to frustrate the
conversation. The problem is it just
makes him look worse. I've never seen
someone so bad at debating that it makes
him look like an idiot. Um, it's really
weird. He then tries to big dog Aiden
talk about his numbers and it's weird. I
need 10 minutes to review this 40 second
call. I know. It's so
[Laughter]
bizarre. Ah, little booty. Thank you.
Thank you. I skipped the hawk and no
cap. I'm a goon.
Uh, Fouch's AC is working overtime. No,
it's just really cold in Jersey right
now. Uh, it's it's been like 80 degrees.
80. Sorry. It's been like
um like 50 to 60 degrees for the past
couple days cuz it's been raining
constantly. So, I'm like I don't like
I'm not wearing a t-shirt today. Um,
yeah, it's extremely wet over here. So,
it's definitely not worth it. Uh, it's
hot in LA. Oh, this is a fun fact for
people who actually give a [\h__\h] Um,
I'll be at VidCon. I don't know what to
do with that information. You Yeah. So,
come see me. I'm not famous.
Um, like Cloudy and I will be at VidCon
this year seeing some YouTuber friends.
If for some reason you're magically
there, you could come say hi. Um, I I
don't know what to do.
Um, at a VidCon thing. They still have
VidCon. Yeah. Uh it'll be June 19th
through the 21st. Um so kind of excited
for that. I get to see uh some YouTuber
friends. Um that is going to be really
cool. Um which is nice. I I don't get to
do that very often. Visit Bobs. Doesn't
he live out of his like car? Like you
can visit Boax like picking up like
crack on the side of a road. I don't
know what to tell you. Wow. Oh Lord help
me. Yes. Yes, Major Wendy. Yes. Italian
Brothers Unite. Naturalb born drama
tubers. Yeah, that's that's really
weird. Like a lot of us Italians do
drama. That's like [\h__\h] insane.
What? Yeah.
Fe. No. The VidCon curse. Don't do it. J
may start running from you. IRL. I mean,
I don't think he has enough money to
make the trip. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I I
don't think that's going to work again.
He keeps running from me. I'm waiting
for the jarism to like pop. Like he
keeps saying that he doesn't know me,
but then asks people in the background
about me. I I don't understand what he's
doing anymore. Uh but it is what it is.
Yes. But chat, more
importantly, let's talk
about the excellent video from Copen
Seed aka Beckett. Yes, chat. You knew
it. I knew it. Um, we were working
behind the scenes on that video. Um, big
shout out to Jenny and um, Jenny and
Becket. Jenny from the block. No, don't
say Jenny from the block. Jenny Jenny's
very
That's why I said it. That's why I call
her that. Yeah, it's it's a term of
endearment. Uh, the ginger himself does
have a soul. U Oh, yeah. If this is your
first time here, just the robot uh is
afraid of me. That's a fun fact for you.
Um, but
yes, it's so interesting. Uh, so we
worked on it. We did a lot of the
research behind it. Uh, big ups to Jenny
and, um, big ups to Jenny and Beckett
for giving us the opportunity to work on
it. Um, it was a really fun
collaboration. There was a lot of stuff
that went into it. Um, it's going to be
very interesting. Oh god, no.
Do you know about Dicker's pony sona?
Very kloppable.
Okay, so Dickers uh Dickers live said
that he kops. That was really crazy. I
can't believe that he said that. Amazing
words. I'm really happy that he he
admitted it. Chat, we've reached our
goal. Give that dog a treat. Dog emoji.
All right, chat. You know what time it
is. If this is your first time on the OP
block, we have a song here. We feed that
dog. It's time to feed the puffers. It's
time to give her treats. It's time to
feed the dog
now on the uplock stream tonight. Yes,
chat. That's Oh god, she's like right
behind me. She was right there. Chat.
Chat, here's the dog. My cat behind me.
Greg, you're hiding the dog. Greg, stop
hiding the dog. No.
Good girl. And that chat, you have won
another goal. And here on the uplock, if
we reach another super chat goal, that
dog will get more treats.
Mason, her name is Leia. Like Princess
Leia. Yes, like Princess Leia.
Unintentionally, I do like Star Wars,
but that was her name. Um, so it's very
cool. Feed that
dog times two.
But yes, chat, more
importantly, uh we're going to go over
uh Beckett's video today. Um we're going
to be going over some of the research
that we did, some of the things that
weren't included in the video. Here are
some of the things editor's notes. Yes.
For the video. Well, yeah. Not nec Well,
we didn't edit the video, so Oh, I know.
I just gave like some notes. Yeah, we we
it was it was really cool. Uh that video
came out really really well. Uh really
really happy about it. Uh, obviously I
didn't do anything to edit the thing.
Uh, is the redheaded British man joining
us? I think he's asleep. Yeah, let him
sleep. He deserves his rest. Yeah,
Becket. Uh, I didn't know uh I didn't
know that Max didn't help with that
video with Ryan Drummond, one of the
Sonic. All right, here we go. I'm just
going to put it in the background. I
didn't know Max didn't help with that
video, so I was very confused and
disoriented when I heard that. I was
like, "Oh [\h__\h] Becket really did do
this by himself." That's insane.
VidCon, time to take the parasociality
offline. That's what we're hoping for.
That's what I'm hoping for. You can give
Fry money in person. You can literally
give me cash like an ATM live and alive.
Holy [\h__\h] IB Night Angel, thank you
guys so much for subscribing. Thank you
for the tips. Also, thank you guys for
the tips. It's very, very cool. Uh, oh
[\h__\h] Yeah, for what I know, Max didn't
uh uh edit this one, which I found uh I
didn't know that. I didn't know that
either. Yeah, apparently he didn't. Um
I mean, like when we were like chatting
or you were chatting back with like
[\h__\h] Becky, he was in the trenches,
so I assume he just wanted to like Yeah,
we were like we were burning on as much
as possible.
Yeah, I I literally was like dying uh at
certain points because it's like while
I'm not editing, I would get like a text
at like 2 o'clock, like 2 am my time.
Hey, I need this random screenshot. I'm
like, dang. [\h__\h] I already gave this to
him. I don't know where it is. Searches
searches through all of my notes.
Searches through like hundreds of notes
of like where's the screenshot? And I'm
like, okay, found the screenshot link.
Uh uh uh oh, I need a scroll of this
link. And I'm just laughing because it's
really really funny.
Um, they they banned you from the
YouTube drama subreddit about talking
about Claire and Black Griffin. We'll
talk about that a little bit.
Uh, this video is very hard uh to
address without talking about them
because they are a part of the video.
Um, but I I do want to make something a
little bit clear. Um, first and
foremost, things that I will not cover
are interviews and topics that are off
the record. Um, yes, uh, you will see it
if this is not your first time watching
the video. Um, I did get in contact with
Saber Spark. Um, that is an off the
record conversation. Um, very cool for
letting us talk with him. Uh, and I I I
did did have the opportunity to reach
out to Claire as well. And that kind of
snowballed into the interviews that you
will see in the video on that side.
Um, so nuts. H that was just [\h__\h]
nuts. Yeah, it was it was very
interesting. I'm not releasing those DMs
or emails um because that that's an off
thereord conversation that literally
everything uh especially from I'll say
this uh stuff from Claire was already
public on her profile which is something
that's really really crazy that people
don't realize that on Cla's profile she
pinned her interaction with Brony Fan
don't and how psychotic he was with her
and for some
reason barely nobody looks at that in
the conversation of the story. Now
again, um it goes without saying I am
not def I'm not the definitive or the de
facto individual that's going to say
that Saberspark did not commit any of
the things that are being alleged as
well as um as well as Black Griffin. The
only thing that I can physically do is
look at the body of evidence presented
and the lack thereof research and come
to the determination if it meets a
specific muster for life ruination.
That's always been our thing. That's the
ethos of this channel. Mason Brain
Droid, thank you guys so much for
subscribing. Welcome, welcome, welcome.
So, that's what's going to be the focus
of any conversations that we're going to
have on this. Um, I don't think it's
appropriate to release uh DMs like that,
especially when a lot of that stuff is
in the video proper. Uh, if not just
sourced through them being open, like
specifically Clara being open with us
about it.
Um, but I, you know, it's one of the
things
that frustrated me with the story. Uh,
and it was one of the things that I
discussed with Beckett and and I'm very
happy that we were able to do it. Um, I
was very frustrated personally doing the
research and recognizing that the people
at the heart of this story were never
talked to. Um, it was both mine because
it'll come up in the video. Uh, both
Beck and I agreed uh that Gabe aka Black
Griffin uh would not be interviewed for
this process. Uh, mainly because yeah,
it wouldn't have been effective for the
video. Um, I really think that uh Claire
and Michelle's uh testimony speaks for
itself and stands on itself. And at the
end of the day, those are the people
that they are constantly claiming are
victims in this story who have a rallied
against that feeling and b uh just
generally weren't heard. Uh, and that
was something that, uh, in our talks
with the both of them, uh, you know,
obviously stuff is in the video, stuff
is off record, blah blah blah blah blah
blah. Um, it was very much the sentiment
of these are two adult women. They're 25
now. Like, they're they're both 25.
These are two adult women who literally
just want to be heard and then left
alone. Regardless of how you feel about
how Gabe came into their lives, how long
Gabe has known about them or or even
Gab's previous interactions on the
internet, which again, I've discussed
it. The Deviant Art stuff is is like is
a kind of creepy and weird. I get it was
a different time. he was 20 blah blah
blah blah blah blah. But again, um those
are some of the things that like I
completely understand with you, but
saying, "Hey, uh Claire, hey Michelle,
uh shut up and sit down. You're not the
victims we want right
now." is really weird. It's it's a very
very disorienting part of this story
that I felt like
um was very
untoward. Um and listen, people can
still feel the way they feel about a
relationship. I'm not going to tell you
not to. I have my own personal feelings.
Um, I can tell you right now,
um, those were made known to them. Um,
like big shout outs to Becket. I'm sure
he'll talk about it a little bit more.
Uh, that was bar none made known that we
had our own uh, biases and and
suspicions and that's what it was. And
to to their credit, Michelle Michelle
and Claire were like, "Okay, we
understand like to their credit." Um,
and that's, you know, I I just like kind
of just characterizing a conversation.
Uh, I'm not going to go into the the
specifics, but I do want to highlight
that because I I know that people are
going to because I I've seen the
comments. Oh, you guys are doing a puff
piece for for for Black Griffin and
stuff like that. Oh, you're disregarding
Destiny Doodles, who randomly showed up
in the comments of Beckett's video,
started arguing with [\h__\h] and
then deleted all of her comments. That's
the most mentally ill thing to do. You
can have your opinions. Just you do know
that. Like, did you evidence them? Yeah.
You don't have to evidence those
opinions, Desty Doodles, where it's a
police report.
Exactly. Like, just do that. Yes.
Really? I wish I I have the singular
comment we could grab cuz I didn't know
she was fighting in comments with
people, but I really just wanted to
highlight that because that's like one
of the things
is there are genuine points in this
video that are the terminally terminally
list of
online. Um, so to start this video, I do
want to highlight something
uh before we get into it because I feel
like it's really really important in my
opinion. Um, it kind of characterizes a
lot of things that I've seen. Uh, first
and foremost,
uh, for some reason,
uh, Amy knew, uh, you know what? Let me
go to the thing real quick. Uh, camera
watch. Close the thing. There we go.
There we go. I know. I know. It's going
to Do you know about Dicker's pony sona?
I do. Very. I do. I do. I do. It always
replay. It always replays at the last
like uh donos. It's really weird when it
does that. So, we're going to go to my
Twitter for a second for a variety of
reasons because there are updates that I
have via my Twitter that I do kind of
want to highlight real quick. Uh let me
just lower the fugies a little bit. Fal,
why do you look like a [\h__\h] bro right
now? Because I am a [\h__\h] bro.
I see Courtney Pete at the top right. Oh
boy. Yeah, I I know. It's going to tell
me to follow Courtney Pete. Um, thank
you. Yeah, like, subscribe, do all the
[\h__\h] Uh, yeah. Uh, hot take. [\h__\h]
Courtney Pete. I don't really give a
[\h__\h] Um, [\h__\h] them. I literally don't
care if they want to talk [\h__\h] They're
currently fighting online in the midst
of all this. They're currently fighting
online about allegedly an adult that
doesn't like them, pretending to be a
minor in their Discord and gay oping
them because she's weird around people
and does the pseudo adoption like
leadhead. I'm literally like what are
you talking about? What are you saying?
Like like why are you don't engage in
this? Do not engage in this. I looked at
the Twitter and I'm like, "Oh, oh, this
person. Oh, this is this is a mentally
ill human being. This is like like I I
don't I don't I'm not You know me. I
mean, but this is like like
[Music]
Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Pinker, you used
my Becky art in your thumbnail. Look,
Mama Becky, I'm famous." Yes, Pinker.
You You made some beautiful art. We're
really really really cool with it. Thank
you. Thank you. I'm gonna put you in the
uh description. I'm gonna put you in the
description. I couldn't [\h__\h] remember
who posted it, so later to check. Yeah,
you were gonna look. I know you were
looking for it. But let's let's go to my
Twitter because there's a couple
updates. Uh if you don't know, uh
there's a side tangent. Uh Metal Gear
Solid, uh Cynthia Herrell came back to
do Snake Eater. I have listened to the
new version of Snake Eater. This is only
for the music nerds who understand. Benn
it for the $4.99. Thank you. Thank you.
Oh my gosh.
Lost my job this week. Oh no. Sharing a
love. So maybe my good karma will come
back in space. Yes, it will. Frost
fingers emoji. Also just gave the Bennet
Queen Streets sole some too. Thank you.
Thank you. Uh I'm very sorry that you
lost your job and I luck to you. It is
tough out there but uh you will find
something soon. Yeah. Yeah. You have the
you have the skills. You know you're
going to find it. Jesus Christ. Suzaki
Ketaku with the 499.
You're pretending to be a minor to bait
me side eyes. Are you worried about
being baited into? Uh, you know, Hazaki,
I say that. Uh, this is just a side
tangent for my music nerds in the chat.
I listened to the new version of Snake
Eater. Very happy with some of the
rechestration. Also just happy that it
was very clear that Cynthia as an older
woman knows like her range of voice and
they were able to accommodate some of
the changes in her uh in her range as
well as like not necessarily the tambber
of her voice, but just how much she
could do. Um, and so it was really good.
I'm really looking forward to the rest
of that game. Hopefully Konami doesn't
[\h__\h] that up. They probably will.
But let's let's go all the way to
yesterday. So
So yesterday, let's start. Uh Amy knew.
Uh so this is Phony Bonkers. Phony
Bonkers is a fake brony fan account. Hey
Cat, what's going on buddy? H two spit
on that thing. How's everyone tonight?
I'm glad you spit on me. I love it.
Stop.
Uh, I was gonna make a joke, but but uh
it would be inappropriate and you would
not want me to make that joke, LG. Uh,
listen. Listen, we can all make jokes. I
am going to check uh my uh blue sky live
because I know uh I know Brony Fan don't
has been live tweeting every time a
video comes out. So, Broy Fan don't good
to see you again. I won't make the joke,
FJ. Don't push it. I won't make the joke
at your expense. I promise. Don't Don't
ask me to say it. Don't ask me to say
it. It will it would ruin you. So, uh,
[\h__\h] Amy News says, "Get a life to a
fake brony fan don't account." And I go
on like only if someone would follow
their own advice. I guess tonight will
shake up to be very interesting. Amy
knew I'm shaking in my boots.
She knows you. Hold up.
How about you shake a job application?
Well, no, no, no. You don't understand.
She's married to a voice actor.
Definitely married to Big
Macintosh. Immediate block. So, I cannot
respond to her. So, you are shaking in
your boots. That's on you. I don't know
what to tell you. And let's be real, Amy
is going to be mentioned in the
conversation. I have some information on
Amy that she probably won't love, but
you know, that's just life and how it
works. So, that happens. Uh, and then as
we go back to my Twitter,
So, Brony Fandote, for those who don't
know, Brony Fandote came back yesterday.
It came back literally like about two to
three hours before the uh video re
reveal. So, I go on to say, uh, in an
unsurprising turn, Brony Fanote is back
on Blue Sky, feigning responsibility
while engaging in crybulling and
sympathy baiting. Unfortunately, this
casts doubts on the authenticity of
their claims regarding
suicide. I I'll be like a I'll be a
buck. I actually I'm at the point where
I don't give a [\h__\h] Uh it was suicide
baiting. That's what he did. Uh we will
read the blue sky uh the blue sky
messages, tweets, whatever the [\h__\h] he
calls them, and you yourself can
determine if you feel like it was
suicide baiting. I think it was suicide
baiting.
Bro, who the [\h__\h] uses blue sky?
Uh, honestly, all of these like [\h__\h]
all these [\h__\h] weirdos run to blue
sky because um it's a little bit easier
to run to blue sky because people can't
find them. It's very annoying that they
think that you cannot be
found. So, Bronny Fanote goes on to say,
"I've been out of the hospital for a few
days now. Anyone I owed an apology to, I
gave one. I did mess up. I was under
intense pressure and being attacked by
people far worse than myself. And it
doesn't excuse me for sharing things the
victim told me in confidence. I did
wrong to
them. I still however will not pretend
to owe the internet an apology. People
want to blame me for KP. The victim is
not a toddler. When I recommended KP,
she considered it before reaching out to
her and KP convinced her she could help,
too. We were misled and both of us
suffered due to
KP. Oh, boohoo. So sad. I'm right now
I'm playing the world's smallest violin.
I, the schizophrenic stalker, am the
real victim here. No. No. I'm going to
He's going to walk to another bridge,
chat. He's going to sit at the edge of
another bridge. Not the woman I've been
stalking relentlessly and harassing for
years. I, the stalker, am the real
victim here.
Cuz I can't log off Twitter.
Is it strange that during a live video
in in the love chat the love chat,
Courtney was crashing out? I I don't
know a lot about Courtney Orchard. We'll
probably do a stream on her soon. Um, if
I don't, I nominate you to the get a job
challenge. cat.
Challenge impossible. You You do like
Listen, they freak with the zoo very
much. It's a very weird thing. I'm not
going to lie. They're always taking
pictures of red pandas. It's very
suspect. It's very expensive to visit
the zoo that much. Yeah, they constantly
say your pet like they constantly do
like the uh the like little mermaids
like I want to be where the pandas are.
I want to see wanna see them prancing.
You knew this was coming up and you
practiced this. No, I didn't practice
it. My brain just did it immediately.
Cap. No, my brain is like this. Uh, but
let's let's continue. No one fights for
me. So, as unpopular as it is to do, I
still
will. Most people are upset with me are
worse than me. Some are far worse. That
would be me. Hi, Brony fan. Don't The
next time you walk near a bridge,
please, please, please send me a
picture. Um, there are some who are
genuine. There's plenty of fair
criticisms. Blaming me for KP and
demanding police involvement are not
fair
criticisms. Let's have a conversation
real quick.
Brony Fanote did not know what rain was
and did not want to even entertain the
idea of going to the police. Why?
Because of the fact Brony Fanote
believes only in internet justice. Does
this sound like someone who went to on a
like a 72-hour hold that is definitely
still in a depressive suicidal state and
is regretting their actions and how they
acted out and and scared people, their
loved ones? Weird, right? Yeah.
Really weird. The the very first thing I
I would not expect from somebody who was
who is taken in for their own safety
would be to go back to Twitter. Mhm.
Here's my hot take. PPA who want to
perish. Don't go live to 1,000 plus PP
on Twitter. Uhhuh. That's why I said or
Oh, okay. Sorry. Baiting as if anyone's
going to miss a falcon goon. Thank you,
Yen. Thank you, Henzak. Yeah, we're
going to get there. So, this is I This
is my favorite part. This This is when
you know this [\h__\h] is so insane,
so schizophrenic that you're just like,
"Oh, oh, he's just stupid. Oh, this Oh,
he just Oh, it was all fake. Oh, that's
nice to know it was all
fake." During my time in the hospital, I
made new friends. One of them was a one
of them, a woman who was raped by a man
in the military.
She is currently going through the
police to try and get her to face
consequences, but the police doubt her,
interrogate her, and make her worried
about what will happen. Interrogated
her. Did everybody stand up and clap?
convenient that during his 72-hour hold
or so, he somehow meets the one person
who has a rape allegation that could
never be helped by the police, further
cementing his feelings about AAB. Like,
listen, let's be very honest. Um, there
are a lot of issues with allegations of
rape and and sexual abuse in the United
States and the way that it's
investigated. If you've ever been the
victim of a stalker, you would know that
it's very, very difficult with that. And
that woman's name, Albert Einstein.
Thank you, S, for the two. Thank you.
Thank you. Oh my god. There's there's
another lollycon who was also a cab.
What was his name? Oh, you mean Oh, you
mean Dan's burst? Oh, Dan's burst was
his name. It's almost like I continue to
open a glue factory. I thought you were
going to say Brian moans the fox. Did
he? He's not. No worries. We don't
for keep it a book. I'm going to keep it
a book.
I know. I I usually throw the stone. I I
was already forgetting Dan's burst
existed.
You made the thumb the first. You did
make the thumbnail. You made the
original thumbnail. I I know. I I know I
also casted the first stone, but I
remember them. Yes, you did. You You've
constantly cast the first stone. I've
been na to a mental hospital three
times. [\h__\h] You know why I usually
cast the first stone cuz I ain't in
glass houses.
We'll get there. But again, I'll never
be in a glass house. Again, very
conveniently, that brony fandote finds
the only person in the psych ward that
would perpetuate his claims about
everyone being mad at the victim for
not, you know. Okay, we know it's Emily
Jones. I don't need to like [\h__\h] beat
around the bush anymore. Uh her name is
Emu Emily. Emily Jones uh on her
YouTube. We have her DMs. Uh I didn't
ask uh Becket for them for before cuz
he's currently sleeping. We'll get to
the only DM that matters. The only DM I
want from Becket, but we'll get
there. Uh it led to her being where I
was on hold for our safety from
ourselves. And she's not better now than
out. She still has to keep going through
it. I didn't need to know her story to
know police isn't always or even usually
a
solution. Too many of you I wish heard
it from her directly.
We're not going into the psych ward.
That's weird. If this was also Oh my
god. If this story is true, this is not
your story to tell. Nope. You [\h__\h]
loser. Yeah, he's a [\h__\h] loser.
Literally walk to another bridge. I do
not care. I mean, like, would it be
uncou It seems like he has delusions of
grandeur. 100% he has delusions of
grandeur. Yeah, he is a grandiose
schizophrenic. Um, yeah, I was also
thinking schizophrenic. I'm glad I'm not
the only one. Yeah, he's a grandiose
schizophrenic. Um he he has uh uh
delusions of grandeur uh identifying the
the way his account uh specifically when
it came to his uh roleplay account was a
god among men in the brony community is
very weird and very telling of just like
his ego and his ego was so hurt. A god
among men? You mean a god amongst
children? Yes. Yes. Yeah, pretty much.
Um, let's see. Brody Fando goes on to
say, "I've never accused any innocent
person of on on these accounts. I
thought I built enough trust with how I
took care of Griffin. You didn't take
care of Griffin. You were That's why
people don't trust you cuz you keep
accusing Griffin." Yeah. Like, like, fun
fact, and I don't know why I have to say
this, brother.
You accused Griffin to the point where
people found out you're a [\h__\h] fcon
and you defend it. Now chat, if you
don't
remember,
fulcons is the
lollycon of the brony
community. And I I I saw somebody the
other uh in in a chat being like,
"Horses horses don't have the same age."
Uh thank you, Panda Slowpoke. Uh, horses
don't have the same age as
um uh as like humans. Fos are still a
real thing. They're literally still a
real thing. And the show itself
delineates the characters ages. It's why
while they're not aged specifically,
there are really tiny horses with young
children doing the
voices and then larger horses with
adults doing the voices. Weird that an
11year-old, not going to lie, it's it's
like not something to argue, dude. He
thinks it's a child, so it doesn't
[\h__\h] matter what you want to debate,
bro, about. Yeah. Not only is this
weirdo touching himself to horses, he's
touching himself to baby horses. Yeah.
Again, he's literally doing all of this
live on Maine and we'll get to his
schizophrenic defense of that when we'll
get there. It's just like the fact you
have to make another word for it. Like
like the original it's bad enough, but
we have to make another term. Yeah, we
have to. Like it's so weird. On main.
Exactly. Yes. Vosch does have
competition. Uh Blood, we'll get to
that. We will get there. Um
uh I didn't I didn't plan on covering
Saver, but when KP pushed the testimony
to me, I still wanted to help the
victim, so I covered it anyways. People
had less trust than I expected. Now,
it's important to highlight that's not
true.
That is in the great words of Whitey
from Eight Crazy
Nights. That's a technical foul.
Please don't.
No.
Let's continue. Blow my [\h__\h] brains
out.
Brody Fando goes on to say, "Let me make
this clear. No matter what you believe
about me or otherwise, what happened to
the victim happened as she said it did.
Saber dismissing it should have been
enough for you, but it largely was. And
I hope one day the victim can prove
herself to
you. Bronny Fando, I am not a hero. I am
not a cloutchaser. I'm not a liar or a
manipulator. Not a perfect person or the
wrong person. I am someone who gave
enough of a [\h__\h] to keep trying. And I
only stood out because not enough of you
would do do the same. I've helped people
and it's easy for you to say otherwise.
I don't know if I'll continue. I don't
have access to the Twitter anymore and
I'm not the one who locked it.
Again, to reiterate, uh, if you guys
remember, the Brony Fan don't account
was shared by two people. Sophie
Scruggs, who will be featured in the
video, as well as Bron Fan.
Um, he has no access to it, but he has
access to his blue sky, and that's
hilarious. I also know that this
[\h__\h] is watching every video,
watching every stream, mama maxing it
up. It's very, very interesting. Now,
also, for those who don't
know, this Helena Hyena account also
belongs to Brony Fandome. Let's see what
his grippy sock vacation taught
him. Republicans living. Chad, I just
found a whole tin in my backpack. You
[\h__\h] Let's go. I actually need to
drink. I don't do I don't do nicotine.
Maybe I'll start.
Why? Crazy, says a [\h__\h] person who
works in the medical field. Oh, let me
just go back. Oh, so Cat could do it and
I can't. [\h__\h] off. Yeah, he's young.
He's young. He'll bounce back. You
can't. You're old news. You're 30s. Oh
my god. So your 30s parenthesis
derogatory. Yes. Uh yes, Bonk's persona,
their private persona account is trans.
Um so that's that is an important thing
to note.
Um but Helena Hyena goes on to say
Republicans living kills everyone
including
themselves. And then you know they made
another post. I know I've gone on a
while already, but final clarification.
I never told anyone to not go to the
police. Not once. I've just never
suggested it and never will. That is
saying that that's telling them not to
go to the police. You're a [\h__\h]
[\h__\h] You also contradict previous
statements where you say victims
shouldn't go to the police. There's only
internet
justice. I do not care. This doesn't
make sense. You are lying on Maine. It
is
hilarious. But let's continue. You're
the problem. What's what what's what's
the goal? Like what's the ultimate goal
of internet justice? Internet
vigilantism. Like how does that solve
anything for for you for anyone? Goal is
he's mentally ill. Yeah, that's the
goal. There is no I don't know why I
don't know why I'm trying to dig deeper
that he is like deeply mentally ill and
like no one is like just taking the
internet away from him cuz he is not
doing well. Well, let's let's be real.
It is clout driven. Uh it is it is a
perceived feeling of he is um he is like
the superior human being. Um it's very
very delusional. This person is very
mentally
ill. And I'll be very honest, I can get
to laugh at the mentally ill when
they're this stupid. When they're saying
when they're this funny. Yeah. When
they're this funny and this malicious.
It's actually insane. Uh, Cal, I
understand when victims don't, but if
you want to create an expose on someone
for a crime, you need to report it first
knowing it won't go anywhere, Cal.
Exactly. As much as it sucks, and again,
I I understand for a lot of men and
women, um, I've been in and around uh um
nurses who do uh sane evaluations, which
are sexual abuse uh nursing. So, if
someone does say that they were raped,
like these are the people that are doing
the the medical evaluation for a rape
kit and things like that.
Um, the reality is is that you can look
up the statistic. It's very sad the
under reportported and underinvestigated
and underused rape kits in America. Um,
it is very depressing. 100,000. Yeah,
it's a really depressing statistic. Um,
but that doesn't mean that you prevent
this individual from at least receiving
resources like a therapist, like like
self-help groups, like a [\h__\h] like
anything like things that Rain can
provide. Rain isn't perfect either. I
still personally recommend going to the
police, but Rain will, if you choose to
go to the police, literally directly
link you. It's part of what their
funding does. It's part of what they do.
is able to link you with your local
authorities. It's the same thing with
the National Centers for Missing and
Exploited Children. I know cuz I
reported Dan's burst to them. I know
what the [\h__\h] they
do. It's like it's the whole Go on,
Greg. No, we're we're we're literally
beating a dead horse here. But it's like
there there's like a I don't know why
you wouldn't just recommend the police
other than the fact that you don't like
them and don't trust them, blah blah
blah blah. Then you'd at least get
everybody on your side by saying we went
through the proper authority channels.
You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't
know. That's just
here's Amy new blocking me.
And I do think like another reason that
they he just like don't go to places cuz
then he just wouldn't be found out that
he's just doesn't actually give a [\h__\h]
about people and he's just doing it for
his own like self-satisfaction. So, so
the legitimate problem with not going to
the
police for Emily's sake, now if Emily is
truly a victim of Saber Spark, which
again, I can't prove anything to support
her claims. It's been 10 [\h__\h] years.
Well, it's not just that. Longer than
that. 13 years, right? It's not that.
The issue is that Emmy didn't come
forward by herself because of her own
issues in the past. And while that is
very sad, um, like the stuff like the
Ryan Drummond stuff that'll be gone over
in the video or other things like that,
it's very sad. It's very depressing. I
don't like
that. This is like you can't just bring
things up with no evidence as
a like like no person anonymously. And
so when everyone is fighting on your
behalf, you can slink in the back
because let's be real, I I said this
again. If Brony Fan actually decided to
take his own life, it is Emily's fault.
Wholesale, no stop. Sorry, I I'll be
honest. That is my belief. You can fight
me on it till kingdom come, but it is
not It's not Saber Spark's fault. It's
not really Black Griffin's fault. It's
not Cla's fault. It's not Michelle's
fault. Let it be my fault. I don't give
a [\h__\h] Uh, it's not. But, you know, I
told him he needs to get mental health
help. He needed to unplug. I told him to
do it live when he was in the
chat. Again, it is personally Emily's
fault for hiding behind him as a shield
because to this day, because this video
is released, but to this day, she has
not publicly said anything and tweets
like there is nothing wrong. I actually
I understand that people will be like,
"Yes, let's blame KP." I'll be very
honest. I don't blame KP.
Blame her for for other things. I could
blame her for other things. I cannot
blame her for what he would do.
No account made past 6 months. Mine is
four. Am I okay? Uh, no. Come back in
July. Yeah.
Yes. If you want to join the Discord,
please join the Discord. Please note
that your uh your Discord account needs
to be older than 6 months. It's just a
rule for the Discord. It's just a way to
keep from brigading and things like
that. Yes, it's also an 18 plus Discord.
If you are not 18 or above, you and I
are going to we will find you. I will
ban you. It will be a whole thing and I
will shame you publicly. I hate being
reminded of brony terms. Feed Peppa.
It's okay. Be around the stream long
enough. Oh [\h__\h] we hit the goal before
the video.
All right, it's time. Let's feed a
different dog this time. It's time to
feed the puffers. Cat's also feeding his
dogs. It's time to feed the dog now. I
have to go feed my cat.
Every dog and cat is being fed
tonight. All right,
Liam. Look at chat. Look at her go. Good
job, girl. And
chat, you
win another
goal if we reach 15 super chats. We
can't speak more Spanish. Ah, sorry. I
don't do that for free anymore.
Uh, or any less.
I love how she just [\h__\h] leaves every
time she gets a treat now. It's really
funny. She's like, "Okay, she's she like
quite legitimately just leaves every
time." 15 super chats, flips you off,
walks
[Music]
ac I I wonder if I could put the dog in
my taxes now since she is an on camera
talent. No. No. The treats. The I would
fight for the treats. Maybe. I know. Oh,
I would fight for the Chari and Ellie
say thanks for exit retreat. Smiley face
emoji.
If you're in the uh um Discord, we have
a a a pet uh you became a pick some
pets. Mhm. All right, chat. Let's get
into this video. Now, chat, I am going
to be speeding it up a little bit. Uh,
just because this is probably the
seventh time I've heard this video
because I heard it behind the scenes
when we were making sure that everything
was copathetic with it. So, chat, I'm
going to be real. I listened to it at uh
2:00 in the morning, then I fell asleep
again.
Mhm. Woke up at 4 and uh video was still
going. Yeah.
Hey, Space Fox, thank you. Feed the pup
attacks. Also, new subscriber attacks.
Thank you, Space. Thank you. Yes. All
All new subs, you have to dono. It's I I
don't make the rules. It's just the
rule. Yes. If every if every new sub can
dono, be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Make Listen, if you're a lurker, make
your lurking heard, you could do it.
Let's get into it. You know, normally I
love it when my autistic obsession with
the brony community breaks into more
mainstream commentary drama is one that
I very nearly didn't cover at all
because when the allegations made by I
Love Kim Possible a lot against Saber
Spark dropped, I was already aware of
their connection to the wider Black
Griffin drama, which I'll be honest with
you is a complete bloody headache. Now,
while this video won't go into detail
about those allegations, understanding
that wider drama, which revolves around
and indeed hinges upon persuading
somebody's wife that their now husband
groomed them, is unfortunately the only
way to actually explain why any of this
happened at all. So, while my long-term
dodging of this story might make me a
bit of a Johnny come lately, I've put in
work over the last week or so to really
unpick what's been happening behind the
scenes to give you all a clear view of
the insanity that's been occurring. And
I do mean insanity because what I have
for you today is a drama that stretches
back over a decade all the way to the
animation analysis community. I've heard
your house described as the home for way
bronies to be fair to her. Like
yeah, it was that way for a long time
until I I got over it. I'm kind of
fascinated just hearing stories about
her at cons. Was she just always this
crazy? So this is this is Casey. Um
Casey is the wife of Henry uh who is
Saber Sparks lead editor. nice lady. I
spoke with her briefly um prior to this
interview uh off the record just giving
her a heads up
um to characterize that conversation
just really briefly.
Um Emily behind the scenes was using old
Skype uh messages that she was attached
to, one of which was Casey and her
husband's. So I let them know because I
didn't feel like it was right to not.
Um it was weird. It didn't make any
sense because again this girl wasn't
providing any proof and her uh her
information Emily's information
essentially was I knew these people.
Here's how I know them. Skype log or
like chat messages. And then it's like
but you seemingly don't have the
ones with Saber Spark. Weird. Why are
you showing off these messages but not
those messages? Very strange. Very
weird.
Rachel. Uh, crazy isn't the right word.
Entitled is the right word. Clueless is
the right word. So, welcome to the
rabbit hole, ladies and gentlemen. Allow
me to show you what happened to all
those people who used to unironically
refer to themselves as horse famous.
Let's get into
it. Yep. Would you consider yourself a
horse famous now? Uh, no.
Horse fame is like horse infamy, right?
Isn't it like a negative conotation? No,
no, no. Horse famous can be that you
were famous in the brony conf.
Um,
okay then. Hold on. Brony. Brony's in
chat. Is FG now horse famous? I No, I
will say this. I said chat. I will I
will say this. I I don't think I'm horse
famous. I do have horse infam. I don't
know if it's horse infamous. Donkey
infamous. Chicky chick. It's Dominic the
donkey chickity chick. It's a Christmas
Italian song. It's the Italian Christmas
donkey.
La. Um no. Uh I am lovingly the Italian
stallion. It is a thing.
It is very It's very funny. I've had uh
we've had I have two pony sonas
technically. Uh one drawn by Beetle
Pins. Uh if you're ever looking for
brony art, Beetle Pins is your person.
Uh and then Lovingly by Blue Yo-kai drew
me as the Italian Stallion. Great. Uh at
this
point, is there a Grim Reaper for for
the brony community? Tusky tipped $1.
Guys, guys, let me tell you this. What
do you think of when I say great
animated show? A few things might pop up
in your mind like Steven Universe or
Spongebob. Well, the greatest animated
show of all time and is probably the
greatest show period is MLP.
No. No. Tusky, why are you doing Is this
a copy pasta? Am I getting This feels
like a copy pasta. Tusky feels like a
live copy pasta. This This feels like
just Tumblr communities.
Yeah, if there's a pony reaper is child
protective services. Our our grim reaper
was outed as a pedo, so not anymore. Oh,
that's it. Wait, are you for
real?
Wait,
what? Wait, there was a grim reaper of
the [\h__\h] pony community and he was a
pedto? That's hysterical. I'm sorry.
Yes, Scarlet Reaper is a creeper.
Sacrificing putting children at risk
because you don't want to publicly speak
out about this behavior. Your fans
aren't confused. Something
better be taking horses to the glue
factory. The drama finding its origin
points back in 2012. As you can imagine,
there are a fair amount of moving parts
and various parties who are involved.
But my interest lies almost solely, at
least at the moment, in the allegations
being leveled against Saber Spark and
frankly how they were platformed in the
first place. So, we're actually going to
begin more like Groom Reaper,
too. Thank
you. Oh, wait. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. On May
the 1st this year, when I love Kim
Possible a lot, also known as KP,
released a video she'd been working on
for the last several months on DA Games.
Now, KP has been knocking around YouTube
for a significant period of time with a
channel dating back to 2007. though
she'd reached the height of her
popularity in 2014, having started to
gain traction in the brony community in
2013. Now, I have a soft spot for this
little community because it's produced
some fantastic dramas over the years.
Regular viewers will be aware of my
Okay, we will go over the Toon Critic
Cole one of these days. The Toon Critic
thing is funny as [\h__\h]
Obsession with a creator from this
community known as Toon Critic who was
caught trying to solicit nudes from a
minor through My Little Pony erotic
roleplay. a brony reviewer. Oh no, not
Dr. Won.
Thank you, Goat Kat. God damn
it. Guys, this is one of my favorite
people on the
internet, Dr.
Wolf named Tune Critic Y2K, a person
with whom I and many others have worked.
Wait a second. I remember this. This was
a part of Chris Chan. Is it really a
part of Chris Chan? Laura Tude Critic.
No, no. Wolf Doctor, man. Oh, that's
hilarious. Yeah. Chris Chain. Chris
Chain made a uh a therapy session
between Chris and Chris where uh Dr.
Wolfman person from the Brony was uh was
uh Imaginary interviewing them.
I [\h__\h] love this community.
Uh, I disavow.
Groom, groom, groom, groom, groom bars.
Anyway, Christian is uh tangentially
related to this drama. Yes. Given that
she commented on Sabers Spark and new KP
uh from like way back when. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
engaging in sexually explicit chats with
an underageed girl. Many of us reacted
with shock, confusion, anger, and
sadness. Well, cartoon analysis as a
content bracket. This [\h__\h] soda kills
me. This [\h__\h] soda kills
me. Oh, [\h__\h] Tusky tipped $1. You are
horse famous. Characters are so deep and
the stories span out generations for the
past 30 years. The writing is the
greatest of all time. Never in the past
2,000 years have we had writing as good
as this. Tusky. Every single episode of
this show is great.
Abu, thank you for the two. Goon Catau
isn't beat the feet in ranch drama.
Yeah, it has expanded over the years.
Its origin and indeed its popularity can
firmly be attributed to the insane
popularity of My Little Pony.
Particularly this clip is hilarious. We
will get there. It's one of the funniest
[\h__\h] things Becca has ever shown me.
Ignore Abiu. He's evil and special.
Yeah, so are you, Gat. Like, go, you got
a bad dating track record. I don't want
to hear about you calling other people
special
amongst a certain What's wrong with
having a bad dating uh track record? I
mean, what if it involves birdie? So,
damn, you dated birdie.
Damn it. And I thought I dated crazy.
And Saber Spark. And the footage I'm
using at the moment is from Saber
Spark's own documentary on the Brony
fandom, which he made to celebrate the
community. While this all sounds very
pleasant and nice, it probably won't
come as a surprise to many of you that
the history of the Brony fandom is
basically a small.
And while this may sound slightly
callous, it doesn't surprise me to watch
this current drama unfold in the way
that it has. Allow me to be blunt for
also to my
uh god damn it. Why are you guys
donating so much to just got 178 on the
rod test and artc? Yike.
Okay, we are seven donos away from
feeding that dog. Is this the same
mintart from the Lio stuff? Like am I
crazy? Is this the same Midheart from
the Lio stuff where it was um uh uh uh
like Joshua Vita? Is this the This is
the same person. I can I can fix you.
Oh my god. I can't. All of you [\h__\h]
are [\h__\h] interconnected. Why? Why are
you all interconnected in all the same
dramas? Why? So weird for a second. The
allegations against Saber Spark and
indeed DA Games do not exist within a
vacuum. They form part of a long-running
pattern for this particular fandom.
Firstly, there is an inherent problem of
the brony demographic. We are talking
about men who are obsessed. So, from
what I Okay, remind me is this this is a
joke video, right? Is this a guy like
saying to his fake father on the other
line that
he became Yeah. Dad, I became a brony
dad. Like this is like a fake video
about becoming a bro. It's super funny.
Uh if we get to it, we'll do it. It's
this is like a really funny video. I've
seen it. Um Dad, it's called Clopping.
Dad,
you hate it all. I hate it all. Chat,
there's 263 of you. And I don't even
know the likes, but it's definitely that
263. Let's get those likes up. Like and
subscribe, chat. You're very, very cool.
Ask groom cat about leo convoy or race
ace space calls. Oh god with a why you
guys keep
donating because
why are you shocked? Before maniac it
was brony drama. That's where Leo and
others came. I know it's where Lio comes
from. OP, can you sponsor me? Gamma, can
you sponsor me? You're bigger than me,
aren't you? You really think it's fake?
You want green tea? I listen. I don't I
don't Oh, boy. Tuske thank
you. There are no bad
episodes exceptional. You might think
there are other good shows like Breaking
Bad. And if you think that any shows are
better than MLP, your opinion is wrong.
I think that every single human being
should Yeah, I'm going to have to start
pausing pausing the donos. Yes,
Pegasisters. Yes, I get it. We're just
going to play through it. I derasion
will not be tolerated more than that
particular overview attracted an awful
lot of nonses into the community. But
there is a secondary element which many
of you will not be aware of and it's the
reason that we're even talking about
this in 2025 considering it concerns
events all the way back in 2012. The
brony fandom actively encouraged people
who'd gone through abusive situations to
forgive their abusers and shut 15
viewers and I am one of them. It does
not harm the wrongdoer in any way. Did
you add me? Gamma, I realize that
forgiveness is not and never was for the
benefit of the wrongdoer. It is for
humor. What do you expect? It is what
enables us to find the anger, the
resentment, the hurt, the poison. Guys,
guys, guys. Uh, it's just Falgexe. You
get if you go to the sisters I know
aren't horse related. Yeah, I know. Oh
my god. [\h__\h] I got it.
Okay. No. No. We're tusky. We're done.
Cool anime girls. Cool anime girls. God
damn. It's a small world after all.
It's a small world after all. It's a
small small world. Also remember Fali is
your therapist,
major, and a lawyer. Take all his words
as professional advice. No. No. Why are
we doing Oh [\h__\h] We fed the puffers.
and tipped $4.20.
Did you know in terms of rainbow
time
now on the stream tonight? Let's go
chat. It's time.
Go. And she ate that tree. Good job,
everybody. Listen, we've just hit like
Okay, goal is going to
increase. Honestly,
uh, thank you guys all so much for for
the donors. It's very, very, very kind.
I'm sure I'm sure everybody got paid.
I'm sure everybody got paid to the third
week of the month, but please make sure
your bills are paid.
Next week.
Oh, just so you Let's go back a little
bit because I love I love uh my boy
saying what he says. That forgiveness,
you're cool, too. Never was for the
benefit of the wrongdoer. It is for our
own benefit. Guys, you need to forgive
the pedophiles. Us to the pedophile.
It's for you. It's not for them. Yeah,
it's always he's so stupid. Finally
release the anger, the resentment, the
hurt, the poison that slowly turns our
hearts black. And that really wouldn't
change until 2018 when Lio Convoy came
onto the scene. Have I never mentioned
the cartoon
analysis convoys? I wonder where it
We'll come back to this because it's
another piece in the puzzle which is
going to become relevant later. But the
relevance of science that existed
explains why we're now litigating these
dramas years later because any
discussion of them would have been
quickly shut down. And it also became a
bit of a trend for people with
pre-existing grudges to happily run
allegation stories on people they didn't
like with fairly flimsy evidence. And
yes, KP's video fits firmly within this
trend. In fact, within KP's Discord,
there exists an archived thread of
safety reports. These safety reports are
basically Google documents who here's a
side note because I know what happened.
KP's Discord did not like
me. I've seen the Snapchat. I've seen
the Snapchat. I've seen the comments.
They did not like me. I wonder if they
Leo showed up to a Pony Con in a Batman
costume to confront the [\h__\h] in the
center of the Rosa Kaful Misanthropony.
Yes, that's that that none of those
words are in the Bible. No, those are
those words. Ash, look at Queen
Saraphina.
Liotases. Well, I need that video for
later.
Okay. Matic within the community, be
they child groomers or just slightly
annoying. Lord, the idea being to spread
awareness to the wider community or
anyone. Yeah, I'm really curious how
KP's Discord's going to feel that I'm
like kind of talking to them. The KP's
Discord, again, you guys didn't know
what satire meant. That was funny to me.
How are you guys feeling now? Uh, I'm
very curious. Uh, can you call and
confront Mama Ao? She does that. So, she
stops defending Cameron F305. Space
tipped
$4.20 is I'll call it after stream. I
don't sub to Yen and not me. This is the
real Ace Space. I You want me to look
for Liotas's Queen Saraphina? No. No. If
you It's on Queen Saraphina's channel,
it's
Liotases or someone who may come across
these individuals. Okay.
video or something was a safety report.
It's on it's on there. I know. But it's
probably helpful to you because I don't
want to pick through a 2hour video
breaking it down to just I'm being
fictitious, but if you actually do that,
let me know. Yeah, I would do it. I
would. They would not survive. I mean,
if Mama ago lets people like anyone on
Yeah,
that's from KP herself regarding the
timeline and motivations behind the
video. Yeah, let's start um giving just
a brief background on how you ended up
in the kind of
Wax in chat if you're here. Wax for this
wonderful [\h__\h] art. The the the
insanity of this. Oh, you mean
facitious? Oh, that works, too. Mhm.
Wonderful. Wonderful. Wonderful.
I I know you've got a fairly long
history with these kind of communities
anyway, but why were you making a video
about the DEA DA group story in the
first place? Oh, wow. You don't really
you really don't know anything. Um money
um so the original video was supposed to
be about um Chris Chris was an ex
employee of mine that um I found out
made up a story about to be blunt um
jerking off to my clothes in a con and
bragging about it. Um,
again, I disavow Chris for doing this.
Ugly story. Awful. Ugly story.
But maybe that's the closest she's ever
gotten to getting some action.
Oh, she is pretty unpleasant from what
everything we've been told.
I disavow my joke. I disavow I disavow
myself. I disavow myself
from Judy. How you doing? How you doing?
Good. Cool. Cool. Cool. Thanks for
stopping by. Oh god. I'm sorry. I'm so
[\h__\h] mean. I have worse things to say
today. It's not going to get any better.
Was never told that story.
Um a
whistleblower told me it. Um confronted
Chris, recorded that call. Chris
admitted to it. um contacted DA Games
and Saber to see if they were going to
do anything. I contacted Saber through
through his employees cuz I don't really
like Saber, but I felt like it was fair
to give my head. Oh, because I I don't
Are you Are you [\h__\h] tooking up in
this [\h__\h]
car? Spoilers. Maybe say like be meaner
to her. She didn't She'sn't taking
serious. She doesn't give a [\h__\h] She's
[\h__\h] tooking up in
the Oh, I've heard this call like four
times now. It's
insane. What KP fails to mention was uh
this was what happened when Chris was a
a minor. She held on to this for years,
only waiting to ruin his life as an
adult and never confronted the other
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait. Chris was a minor when you
made that joke? No, they were all
adults. Chris was not a minor. I was
like, "Unless you could provide me
afficionado Chris's age, he was not a
minor." You may be thinking,
another minor is a different person.
Yeah, completely different people. Yes,
Bogsy was a
16-year-old that KP had in her employee.
It's like a whole thing.
The short of that was uh minor. Uh, she
didn't know. She found out. She kept him
on staff for a while longer. No, she
always knew he was a minor. No, she said
that she did. She in her video she
claimed she didn't know. When she found
out, she still kept him on afterwards.
That's not because he was a good one.
No, she always knew. She always I mean,
in the video that she posted, that's
what she said. But in the the the docs
that we've seen,
yeah. Um, same with DA. at a time. DA
was I think all those um those emails
are in the video if you want to like
find a mirror and get them there. But um
the DA emails were essentially hey seems
like this is handled like go. She told
me she used to hire at minimum 16y olds.
She does know that she has to f if
you're hiring minors you have to fill
out paperwork and it's not just a
volunteer gig. Yeah. You that's there's
child labor laws for a reason. Like like
I can't She's like I want to be the oil
baron. I can't get into the orphanage. I
can't get into how [\h__\h] up that is.
Okay. Ah, [\h__\h] it. I'll say this. I
don't give a [\h__\h] I've been told by
like a reliable source uh that KP don't
make money on her
channel allegedly and takes the
nonprofit part very
seriously. Very weird. And yes, uh, as a
correction, she found out that they were
a minor but kept them on staff until
they couldn't meet deadlines. Thank you.
Yeah, that's that's what I remember from
released this uh publicly as a safety
report. So, like, do you have any
comment and they started getting really
um frazzled and they tried to um use
British law? The company is in Britain.
They have to use British law. They can't
just fire the [\h__\h] They have to
do an internal investigation and
determine if their employment hinges on
something they did prior to being
employed. That's the one thing that that
Beckett's video doesn't touch on is in
the email exchanges between Saberspark
and KP. Yeah. Or um either with Saber
Spark or with PR or whoever. They do say
that they did go through with that and
he was on a leave for a time and then he
came back. Well, thing is she never
believed it and and and Sabers and it
wasn't enough video her video and
Sabers's response I think really
succinctly kind of wraps that up that we
can't control what DA Games does. Now,
there is stuff regarding Chris and DA
Games from what I've seen the DA Games
document that uh we're currently doing a
little bit of research into. Now, I
don't know if it's going to be a stream.
I don't know if if another content
creator is going to reach us out for for
um uh for evidence and stuff and like
factf finding. If they do, totally fine.
I don't know what we're going to do yet
with it. Um
get your video Brian skills out, Faly.
We're going to make a No, I don't think
I don't know. I don't know if I would do
a legit video. Um,
but I think it's very obvious
that she was always looking for a reason
to put Chris on the cross and it's just
like them. Yeah, it's just literally
just always them. It's so weird.
Um, to convince me not to release it
even though the laws didn't make any
sense. Now, I'd like to pause here for a
moment because your British laws make no
sense. I am an American woman. Brit laws
make no sense.
Involving Chris further examination.
I've now heard that full call and what
was initially presented was an edited
version and we've covered this whole
stream. Within this longer conversation,
Chris takes full accountability of his
actions. He apologizes repeatedly and
makes clear notes of actions he has
taken over the years to correct these
behaviors. These communities talk an
awful lot about people taking
accountability and that if people do
take accountability and apologize for
their actions, mostly they can just get
on with their lives afterwards. So it
confused me quite a lot to hear Chris do
all the things you are meant to do and
still be expected to face serious
repercussions. We are talking about a
single instance over a decade ago with
seemingly no repeat behaviors. The idea
someone should be fired over this is
frankly absurd. And so I went back to KP
to ask her about it cuz I' I've I went
looking through some of the Chris stuff.
KP and I I'll be honest with you, I it's
it's very difficult with the Chris stuff
because what I've got is I've got your
section of the video which is a
two-minute cut and that's a condensed
version of the full call. um to
note she
cuts sp she doesn't even cut she splices
parts of the call together.
It's not even a clean cut. She splices
two separate timestamps
together. Remember
that. I do want to make that clear.
That's what she did in that video,
which isn't noted as condensed version
in your video. And then I've listened to
the full call and Chris is highly
apologetic, takes full accountability
for his actions, explains to you that,
you know, where he was at the time and
the fact that he has sought therapy and
to modify that behavior. He's not making
excuses for it. He's just actually
taking account. So, I'm I'm trying to
understand why you felt it was necessary
to make a video on him or why he should
be fired for something that happened a
decade ago and he has apologized for
um he wants life nation. Yeah, that's
true. I I guess I just wanted a sense of
accountability if that makes sense. Like
I get your point though. It's very
difficult cuz what does accountability
look like? I mean again he didn't he
didn't actually assault anybody. He made
up a weird story which is very [\h__\h]
weird. I agree with you. Yeah.
Um but he's, you know, if accountability
is you should lose your job, your
livelihood, and everything else. I mean,
that's Would you agree that's fairly
extreme?
Yeah, incredibly extreme. Um
I think like maybe like No, she's saying
some sort of statement from him too
might have helped. He did make a
statement that this was a thing that
happened and this probably damaged some
relationships that I was working on. He
He made a statement. He chose not to use
your name so that you wouldn't get
blasted on the internet. You made it
public.
He made a statement and he cannot
determine if it damaged your business
relationships because fun fact for those
who don't know KP has a history of
[\h__\h] that up for
herself which is very weird and very
very bizarre.
She is looking for a reason to sue him.
When she is ask what she is saying he
should state that it cost me business
relationships. What she's saying is that
he slandered me behind the scenes so I
can sue him. That is my purest belief.
Now that's not something that Becket and
I may not agree on wholeheartedly.
That's how it interprets to me. Beck is
a lot more fair than me.
you're you're kind of angling it like
she would go after Saber Spark for
employing him consistently. You know
what I mean? But like I feel like if if
that was the angle, she could still only
sue Chris. She could never really go
after Sabers Spark for any of this. Even
though in the call she's actively asking
if Saber Spark knew or if Chris ever
told Saber Spark. She's doing guilt by
association. Yeah. Yeah. And
again, this is the caveat of saying this
because I agree with Beckett. For as
much as you don't like KP, I'm not our
biggest fan. Saberspark can choose
however he wants to um to deal with it.
And I and I know, you know, I know that
he's going to do whatever he wants to
do. He made his public statement about
it.
KP is the only
one that has given us all of the
information that was ever requested of
her. For what it's
worth, she tried to make amends.
Regardless of how you feel about it, she
did try to make amends. If you think
it's self-preservation, if you think
it's actually genuine is completely up
to you
with at the time. And um that kind of
sucks, but I I see what you mean cuz I
mean I I will say like from talking to a
few other people who've been going over
this. I mean the Chris stuff is is is a
point that's kind of come up again and
again. It's like you know I I see a lot
of stories about people who are like
abusers who've like had sexual
conversations around and with kids. I
think there's a current drama going on
over again. and some stuff that happened
like 5 years ago and wouldn't the
particular people involved in that, you
know, he's he's in trouble now because
he's sort of pushing back after sort of
acknowledging what he's done to this
person. Um, but the kind of prevailing
thing is like, well, if you just said,
yeah, that was a [\h__\h] and I was a bit
weird and I', you know, I'm sorry, no
one would care. But with Chris, you've
got literally the reverse of that
situation where he does admit it's a
[\h__\h] says that he's sorry. Mhm. And
it's like that feels like it's not
enough two years later. So yeah, I I
kind of want to be clear about that cuz
it that I think that's something that
you are going to catch flack
for.
Um I think it was also No, that's fair.
I think it was
also I was frustrated like I think I
wanted some accountability. I was
frustrated with the responses I was
getting and I was frustrated that no one
was like
offering to help fix it. It was just
more like, you know, if that makes
sense. Fix what? Sure. Accountable.
What? What? What does fixing it look
like to you? What What do you want? Like
what what what do you want to be
fixed? You don't want to say that what
you want to be fixed is this guy should
never work in this town
again. It is what it is.
Maybe some kind of um public like public
acknowledgement or something because it
had all it is reputational damage, but
also maybe like actually proving he went
to have some sensitivity training or
something and not just saying that. Why
would he have prove that to you? Cuz
when I when I watch the video, yeah,
you're not a part of the company.
Okay, so here's the reality. The sexual
harassment claim happened outside of his
workplace prior to his employment.
Unfortunately, and this is the
reality, his job does not have to answer
to you. That's part of the problem. I
don't know how it works in Britain. Uh
those who work in the Bretonians can
tell me. From what I understand, getting
fired if you have like a decent enough
job takes a like a lot of time already
because they have to do a full
investigation. They have to go through
like a bunch of like labor protection
laws. That's what I've been told. I
don't know the
Bretonians, the Brightons.
Also, like
[\h__\h] my head.
What was that, Ash? Go ahead. Sorry. I
had a thought and then you talk and I
lost. Oh, no. I called them I called
them the diet
Welsh cuz I know it's the other way
around.
video. Oh, no. No. She wants to be the
center of attention. Sorry. She wants to
be the center of attention. Everyone
needs to care to her. Yeah, that's very
evident about stuff that gets mentioned
later. Yeah. You can't just be fired in
the UK. Yeah.
He seems to say in his public statement,
"Yes, this is a thing that happened and
I needed to work on and I'm sorry for."
I mean, it was, you know, it's a very
corporate statement in some regards. I I
think I think that's fair. But it's like
publicly this was acknowledged as a
thing that did happen with Chris, right?
Mhm. So yeah, I I think I think there is
a spiraling element here that Oh, I
should I should I should clarify that it
was only acknowledged publicly.
Um I I felt he might be a little
bit dangerous just because he was kind
of lying about those kind of experiences
on top of when I looked into what was he
lying about?
He admitted to everything. What did he
lie about? He lied about the story. Is
that what she's I don't I don't know
what what did he lie about
specifically? You So my personal opinion
now it may differ from other people's
opinion, but this is my personal
opinion.
It sounds like KP is not convinced that
he continued to tell this story years
after and to all of his employers
afterwards because that's the only
reason people wouldn't work with KP. Not
because she's an insufferable
[\h__\h] Uh oh. Oh. It's like that [\h__\h]
thing where like a person didn't want to
be her friend and she thought it was
like someone was conspiring against her
to make that Yeah, she she has that
energy. Yes. Um is is she the one that's
like everybody everybody wants to have
sex with me? Yes. Is this that crazy
person? Yep. Yep. Uh Ocelot Ocelot I do
know about the Jenny Nicholson thing. Um
yeah, what I have to say to that is like
I know Jenny Nicholson was horse famous
and then kind of expanded out of that. I
understand that Jenny Nicholson does
apparently from what I can tell uh
doesn't like Saber and his crew of human
beings. I don't particularly know why.
Um it's kind of crazy. I wonder if it's
like sitt is it crazy like it's actually
known or is it crazy like Jenny is is
not like a private person but she
doesn't get into this at all and and we
didn't really know that she was in like
the brony community until she announced
it like with her with her video that she
used to be in it when she was younger.
Yeah. And now now she's kind of like
tweeting out like all these things that
are just kind of they look bad to us
because we're the ones that are actually
like in the [\h__\h] looking through all
this. You know what I mean? Thank you.
Shiny Charizard. Fun fact, I did have a
shiny shiny Charizard growing up. Um
drama averse is is the best way of
putting it. And it's weird that she's
kind of getting into it with her with
her Twitter account being as big as it
is. Yeah, I know it is another instance
of a person who says, "Oh, I'm against
drama, but then we'll do drama in the
most horrible way possible with no
information." Yeah, it's it's very much
like a uh um uh not to bring not to
bring up to bring up EHD or DH or
whatever, but uh uh it's like a
Hassanism or like isn't he that guy that
blank? You know, she's just kind of
tweeting out isn't isn't that the person
who blinked? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It's
very interesting. And yes, chat, like,
subscribe, do the whole rigma roll bloo.
Yeah, I know that that Jenny is very uh
anti-lack Griffin. Again, I I sympathize
with that feeling. I don't think that is
a bad person. No, I just like it just
happens. It's okay.
To the D game stuff, too. I don't know
if you've got him there, but there's a
lot of like
um gross behavior there. So it just
seemed like these people weren't
accountable for not FGI bonk diesel,
it's FGI bonk themselves as well. So I
guess it it became a bigger scope to me
once
games was not really willing to work
with me and then once some of the games
victims found me and they were like oh
this is a pattern cuz they do this stuff
this kind of stuff all the time. With
that out of the way I suppose we should
get to the Saber Spark allegations
themselves. Now, the way I want to break
this down is I'm going to explain to you
what the allegations were and how they
were presented. And then I'm going to
tell you what happened behind the
scenes, and I can do that with Hold up.
I want to see if it catches.
Uh, she's dreaming. I can hear her
yeping behind me. Claudia has heard it.
She yips when she sleeps. It's very
funny. I like heard it out of my ear.
Seat because I have everyone's DMs. And
yes, that includes Brony Fandone's DM.
Okay, chat, let's talk about this.
Ah. Oh, it was so it was so hard to hide
this. Not really, cuz it confidentiality
is the tool of the trade here. Uh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. B Beckett had
everything. Was [\h__\h] again to her
credit.
KP gave it. This is This is where it
gets a little sticky. Uh, I understand
people's feelings about KP. I understand
people's feelings about Lio. He'll come
up in this
video. I can reveal this because I think
it's actually apt to say.
Uh
Lio came to me and Beckett think kind of
separately about this being like I don't
like how this was handled. I didn't know
that it was being handled this way. Had
I known that I like I would have I would
have f I would have been like more push
back.
You could feel however you want to feel
about about Lio. I understand and
believe me, I've said it to him in
public and in
private. But he did he owned up to it.
He was one of the first people that was
like, "This isn't right. What needs to
be done? It is what it
is." With KP, which make for fairly
fascinating reading. So, the allegations
against Saber Spark were first released
on Twitter through Brony Fand's account,
and believe it or not, that fact's going
to become quite relevant later on. These
allegations would come from an anonymous
source, claiming that in 2012 and 2013,
though, it is worth noting that there
would be a later correction that this
all occurred in 2012. This individual
met up with Sav twice. So, as a
reminder, this took place at two cons,
one in Anaheim, the other one in Ohio,
the other one in Anaheim. It was July of
2012 and November of 2012. Those are
very, very important times and dates to
remember because again, part of Emy's
story was the first encounter was
nonconsensual and then went
to another place with him. It's also
very important to note in one of the
throwaway accounts
statements, she would go on to
say that she didn't want Saber to know
who she was because Sabre could find out
exactly where she lived because of the
con locations. However, she would later
identify the con locations because it's
the only two places she's ever lived.
She's lived in Ohio and she's lived in
LA. That's not doxing. It's very public.
Uh there's a GoFundMe that we'll go over
that explains that a little bit more
into detail. And on both occasions, they
engaged in non-consensual sexual
activity. Yes, the victim is Emu Emmy.
Uh full disclosure, I knew about it. I'm
going to tell you guys a little bit of
lore. KP would then present these
allegations in her video and follow it
up with a conversation between herself
and Courtney Pete regarding the nature
of consent. As a quick note for those of
you unaware of who Courtney Petes, this
is that's a [\h__\h] ghoul. That is a
Fallout ghoul on my screen right now.
No, she looks like a Malcavian from uh
uh Vampire Bloodlines. I honestly Yeah,
a little bit. A little bit. A little
bit. I'm not going to lie. That is that
is not a flattering picture. Honey, why
would you come on to stream looking like
this?
Like
Courtney, the sister of Lily Orchard,
and most people will be aware of her
through her ongoing campaign against
Lily Orchard, who is alleged to have
abused Courtney. Again, uh want to
highlight this because Courtney will
always if Courtney comes out and says
this,
um Lily's abuse of Courtney not okay.
Uh, it's [\h__\h]
horrific. That being said, [\h__\h] her. And
we'll get into why. During her
childhood, regarding the allegations
themselves, and we'll come to who the
accuser actually is, I was immediately
pretty skeptical of these when I saw
them. I put out a Twitter thread
outlining my issues with the allegations
the day after they dropped. But I'd like
to take a moment to be crystal clear at
this point. I don't think anybody will
ever be with 100% certainty that these
events did or did not occur. While
Saberspark has denied the accusations,
this occurred so long ago that the
evidence to condemn or vindicate him
just doesn't exist. Which is exactly why
accusations like this should never be
platformed by a creator. Putting anyone
in the position where they have to deal
with lifer ruining allegations when you
have no evidence to support them beyond
a single victim testimony is an Okay,
this is just funny. I like seeing
people's tweets and I know that I sent
them screenshots and I'm like, "Oh,
there's our screenshot. Oh, there's our
screenshot." It's funny. I love when
Becket makes his tweets things. It's
really good, actually.
Incredibly [\h__\h] up thing to do to
somebody. And as we dive into the deeper
drama surrounding this story,
particularly when looking at people like
Brony Fand, that's a theme because when
it comes to the Black Griffin
allegations, vast amounts of the
evidence supplied against him is
incredibly shaky.
Oh, buddy. And when challenged on this,
the defense is the quantity of
allegations, regardless of their
quality. And to be candid, it astonishes
me that this has gone on for as long as
it has. That being said, let's get to
the behind the scenes. One thing I was
made immediately aware of is apparently
Lio Convoy was involved in Yes, chat.
You know him, you love him. It is the
lion himself, Lio Convoy. This which
didn't come as much of a surprise given
his history with this particular
community. Lio again has pre-existing
relationships with KP and many of So I
asked Ash to pull this video up for me.
I'm going to [\h__\h] Which one's Lio in
the Batman outfit. In the Batman.
That'sing.
Yep. Insane. Here you go, chat.
[Music]
Why are you singing? That's not the
Batman thing.
He's awake in this image. I'm Batman and
this is creepy reading. He's a dirty,
filthy criminal and he's going down.
This is the worst audio I've ever
I love my wing simulator. You know, this
is great. Holy [\h__\h]
Justice saw you taken care of. Why?
But it's not real.
It is real. It is real.
It's so This is from 2019. This wased
last year for posterity day. This is a
precoid YouTube video. Oh man.
Oh,
top of the barrel
meetup. That day when homies became
homies. You know what? Maybe he can do
pedo hunting. I believe in Laia. Oh god.
This is This is peak cinema.
Uh, can we run it back? You want to run
it back one more time? Sure. Sure.
Here. Just for you, Greg.
Unrelated, but Fal's voice is fire.
Don't do that. Don't do that to him. His
head is big enough as it is. He's
writing a 3-week high. Nobody in mind. I
have We're all going to die. He has been
insufferable. that my twit longer is
getting twit longer. My tweet longer is
getting twit
longer. Uh, wait, where's the Oh, yeah.
This is the video. The other people
involved in this particular fandom.
Actually, little bit of fun law for you.
But a lot of the people involved in the
Senate server actually originate in the
Brony. So insane with individual
Saraphina even voice acting in popular
brony cartoons like this one from
Pimations. Though to my surprise, Liia's
involvement in this is incredibly
minimal. That was He would though share
what DMs he had and it seems he was
added to a couple of different group
chats. The first involving the
individuals leveling accusations towards
DA Games as well as the individual
making allegations against Saber Spark.
In the interest of transparency and
because the DA Games group chat is less
of interest right now though is
referenced in later conversations. I
think it's useful to hear this first
recording just in full so you can get a
general scale of Liar's level of
involvement. Is everybody here like
Yes. Yes. I love the scrungly
chat meme chat. I do know that Twitch
banned Hassan [\h__\h] for 24 hours for
reading the shooters manifesto.
It wasn't a permanent ban. I've seen it.
I think that that's a really stupid
thing to do on both sides. He was just
He was just suspended.
Yeah, I knew like like like right after
happening, someone [\h__\h] messaged me.
I'm like, "Oh, okay. Cool. Somebody
messaged you." Yeah,
somebody reached out. Hey, by the way.
Yeah,
it's okay. They do call it a suspension,
not a ban.
Exactly. You can't necessarily do that
on Twitch.
Probably you shouldn't have done that.
You can read it on Reddit, but you can
read it on Twitch.
Mhm. General scale of Liars level of
involvement. Is everybody here like
previous employees of DA Games? Is that
what I'm getting reading the chat here?
Okay. So, is everybody here an adult or
we got any minors here? We got any
minors here? Such a [\h__\h] curse. So
funny. Like out of out of context. That
is amazing. So, I I I will say this
since Lio shared it. Yes, I got this
this scroll Lio shared with me.
Um I again I give Lio credit. He
probably also shared it with Becket.
Um I give Lio credit where credit is
due. The moment he was like, I don't
like this and I'm really upset, he was
like, what do I need to do to fix this?
He wasn't really involved either. He
didn't need to do this much. Haven't
heard the interview myself worse. You
say I'm serious. Is that because uh
humor is a coping mechanism for you?
Because that's pretty common. Is human a
cope? Is humor a coping measurement? Oh
my god. Oh [\h__\h]
I think maybe putting in a section
perhaps with a uh notation on studies
showing that sometimes people cope with
things via humor and that's how they
figure out discussing it would probably
help to to that. Not just in the sense
that would recontextualize your
interview and obviously make it to where
it does need to be redone, but also it
further points out I don't think KP
should be the one that puts in
scientific studies into her [\h__\h]
cartoon expose uh [\h__\h] pedophile
lollycon [\h__\h] I don't think I love Kim
Possible a lot. Should have ever touched
that
out that you're a victim of these things
and that's how you're internalizing it
and it puts more credibility to your
claim. I understand what Lio is saying,
but it is like something that like I
can't imagine the cartoony YouTuber
doing.
I miss the days when that design was
just singing Knuckles. Was a long time
ago. Yeah, I have many deep fried memes
removed.
Be doing it and trying to do it in a
sterile possible fashion. Do you know of
note
here's to allow original victim
testimonies to stand as they are. This
is very very solid advice for reasons
that will become clear in a little bit.
As for his conversation with the Saber
Spark accuser, well that requires a
little bit of dissection to begin with.
When KP came to Lio to ask his opinion
on this, Lio is incredibly clear that
the correct course of action is to go to
the police and file a report. Yes. then
that needs to be handled by the cops.
Like period, like 100% period. That that
needs a police report filed today.
Amazingly, he also points out the
complete bloody obvious. He's [\h__\h]
the accuser trying to remain anonymous
to protect themselves from Saber Spark
finding out it's them makes no sense
because if this is true, Saber Spark
will immediately know who is making the
accusation. Here's the problem though uh
with that inherently.
If that did happen and Saber did do
that, he will by nature know who it is.
I want to just read what KP says. All
right, I will communicate that with her,
but this happened like 10 years ago, so
I don't know if she's going to do
anything. She's afraid of her identity
getting out. Why are you speaking out
now if it's 10 years ago? And also, KP,
why are you also equally weirded out and
suspicious of that fact, too? It's a
[\h__\h] oversight that I remember when
reading these these messages. I was
like, "That's weird." Also, KP, why are
you putting [\h__\h] memes here? Why are
there memes? Why is there a Stewie
Griffin meme when he's literally
interview master with questions with a
[\h__\h] gift when Li is telling you she
needs to go to the police or at least go
to somebody cuz he's like internet brain
millennial poisoned [\h__\h] quirk
chungus.
So if it gets out in any way, shape or
form and a police report hasn't been
filed, she's going to be at risk. Like
that's just the truth of the matter in
this. And it's unpleasant. It's ugly,
but that's the truth.
These sentiments from Liar would broadly
be reiterate. So uh Lio would get added
to a uh Discord log chat
with what we could presume to be emeated
to the accuser when he got in a
conversation with her. because whatever
else you want to say about Lio Convoy.
So, I love this by the way. Um, she goes
to him and say, "I think if we are
transparent that a report was filed, he
would do everything in his power to find
it. It's it likely wouldn't be terribly
hard to find either because my city is
public
information." Lio goes on to say, "The
only way he'd be able to do that is via
actual hacking." And let's be honest, he
doesn't have that skill. the police just
don't hand over that
information. And it's like and she goes,
"Do they not? My stalker got a hold of
police reports I made about
them cuz that those are public. Those
are public reports. You're making public
reports of nuisance reports which he
should have access to. It is a whole
thing." Tusky with a five. Love you.
That's an apology. Well, I would expect
that I would have added to the fact you
have more in common with the mushroom
has in common with vegetables. Enjoy
upside down face emoji. Thank you. Thank
you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I know.
Like you like you should have. And
again, like in the UK Claire's law
thing, I don't know how it necessarily
would work in the US if we have one of
those. I I'm not entirely sure, but you
could still make an anonymous report. It
happens. Leila Bug with a two. Thank
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we do. Um, tea evangelist arc. Oh, I I
literally think of the same thing. I was
thinking of
like give me some
I don't have any off the top of my head,
but that was like the that was like the
thought of it. The the bit from Always
Sunny when when Charlie was doing the
same thing and the Lord spirit come upon
you because he said, "Amen, Jack. Can I
get an amen?" Can I get an amen? This is
crazy. I feel like this is blasphemous.
I think we're out of hell.
Uh chat, we can make a Turkey Tom type
video essay channel thoughts. Beg for
forgiveness from God. We'll figure it
out. Gamma
and believe me, I understand. Even he
sees the inherent risks of running a
story like this. I have watched a little
bit. Noting that it may open KP up to a
defamation suit. They'd continue to go
back and forth on this topic for a while
with the accuser pushing back that
filing a report may allow Sabre to find
out who she is. I want to start the
accuser does accept by the end that
releasing this story at all means that
Sabre will be able to identify her which
makes this entire interaction again very
very bizarre. I'd also like to point out
that this account Sunspecs was created
specifically to have this conversation
with Lio as the accuser further
obiscates their actual identity and when
Lio refuses to budge that a police
report is required the accuser would
essentially ghost him and refuse to
communicate any further. I want to
highlight
something.
Becket obuscates one little bit of
information and I don't know if he knows
this. According to Lio, I believe he
knows this, but let's let's just like
According to Lio
Convoy,
because the account that created the
Google
doc had a ninja turtle on it when
exposing
um uh emu Emmy or like like putting
things together. Oh, that [\h__\h] Because
it had a Ninja Turtle on it. Emmy didn't
want to talk to Lio anymore because he
also has a Ninja Turtle PFP.
Amazing. So, she thought Lio Convoy, the
most boomeriest of boomer [\h__\h]
put together a [\h__\h] Google doc and
[\h__\h] slid it. I know.
No, no, no. I don't know if I told I
can't remember if I told Becket that.
So, uh, I I thought I did, but maybe I
didn't. But yes. Yes. I I'm only I'm
only leaking this because I think it's
hilarious. By the way, she literally
freaked the [\h__\h] out because he had a
Ninja Turtle
PFP. That is what was told to me. Again,
I don't have the the messages because,
fun fact, Emily doesn't want to release
her [\h__\h] I'm sure Becket has it in the
logs. Uh, I sure he'll go over that on
stream one day and if not, whatever. But
it's hilarious. She got scared of a
[\h__\h] ninja turtle.
Princess chicken noodle soup. FDWTw.
Thank you. Thank you. Princess chicken
noodle soup. You are a princess. You
know, chicken noodle soup for the soul
books are gonzo. Like they did they
Yeah, they're insane. I had to file for
No, they they filed bankruptcy and
they're all gone. Oh, really? I never
knew. My parents still have some. Yeah,
they were they were huge for like 20
years, something like that. Yep. Let's
get back to the video.
So, who is this mysterious accuser?
Well, that would be a woman by the name
of Look who is Well, there were a few
reasons. There was a large amount of
circumstantial evidence that was So,
this is the account that she thought was
Lio.
[Applause]
She was [\h__\h] scared because she
thought it was Lio. That's not even the
same Ninja Turtle. Yeah. No, you can't
tell. You can't tell Leonardo from from
Donatello. That's crazy. Is that That's
kind of racist.
Oh my god.
The eyebands that tell him apart. Mitch
Maddic. Emmy heard Cow Bunga do a [\h__\h]
herself.
That's a That's a different Ninja Turtle
entire is. Uh, Donnie mentioned, but at
what cost? Yes. Hey, Baron von enter.
Good news, Falgy. We can finally be
bees. We can. This isn't your world, but
you can be a bee. You'll live like a
bee, a pet. You'll live for 30 years.
Thank you. Thank you. We We can be FG is
already 30, so I think one time's over.
Time's way up. I know. I was going to
say what a fun movie night would be to
watch all the live action Ninja Turtles
movies. Oh god, those things are [\h__\h]
all the live action ones. My third is
the third one. The isekai. I love that
one. It's my favorite. Isai one is
great. Are you're talking about the only
exclusively the '9s? '90s ones. Are you
talking about the Michael Bay ones too?
Because that's that's also live action.
No, no, no, no. It was the suits. Yes,
he does. Rob Zombie doesn't exist and
Michael Bay doesn't exist. Rob Zombie.
What did Rob Zombie ever do to you?
Halloween. His Halloween series was
terrible. All right, the second one's
not good, but the first one I like the
monsters movie. It was very I love
letter. Okay, we're we we have a
difference of opinions
on Google. Where can I find the off
server or is it members? I've never
heard you talk. I've never will put it
in the chat, please. Uh your account
must be uh 6 months or older. Thank you.
Thank you. Document a week or this
spread like wildfire and led to her
name. We also have these vague posts
from Casey, the partner of Saber Sparks
editor. Yes, but I have to admit I was
slightly ahead of the curve here because
before any of this was public, Emmy had
provided a Dropbox link to Yeah, that's
how we found out guys. Oh, I'm sorry. As
she had attended the cons in question,
but Emmy is not some random unknown
individual. She is a public figure. Her
name is public. And if you click on more
information on this Dropbox video, it
has her name on it.
Yeah, but she didn't know how to change
the metadata.
Yeah.
Secure your links, folks. Actually, uh
please stop securing your links so it uh
so our research is easy. Um here's the
other thing that needs to be
highlighted.
Emily
Jones is far more popular than I love
Kim Possible
is by every metric. She is active in the
Sonic community. Her channel is a very
popular
uh uh like Sonic fan channel that does
music. She has allegedly done official
uh PSO2 music for Sega. She works in
conjunction with Sega. She has worked in
conjunction with multiple Sonic
VAS. She does some voice work on the
side. She is literally more famous than
KP is currently and was at the height of
her brony
fandom. That is what makes this story
more incredibly insane.
It is also worth me noting that at this
point now that Saber Spark's response is
out, Emmy has been on the record with
other content creators talking at length
about these accusations and herself. And
yes, I was offered this recording and
the fact that such a large content
creator, somebody who has literally been
on Dr. Phil, would try to pl Yes, she
has been on Dr. Phil. We discussed this
before. Uh, also, [\h__\h] the name of that
channel.
Unrelated to the video man thing, but
favorite Warhammer fantasy, not 40k
faction, and why is it the scar? Yes.
Yes.
Great. I don't know much about uh about
age of sigmar. I think scaven are great.
Uh I really like um just uh uh chaos
undivided. I think Aaron's amazing. I I
if you win the old world, you got to win
the new world. That's all I'm saying.
Um, but yeah, I don't know enough about
uh old world to really put any other uh
statement. I will say
this this I we will not be going
over this video obviously because I
don't want Dr. Phil to sue us, but it is
public on the Dr. Phil YouTube
channel. All I will say, yes, the name
of that channel is Emu Emmy, queen of
white supremacy. We are moving on. We
could cover it in a Patreon thing if
that's something people interested. We
could we could look at it in a Patreon
thing if people would be interested.
For these accusations anonymously is an
element that deserves discussion and
analysis. Lio would also get me in
contact with KP which is why he is in
the first call and KP would provide
confirmation that it was Emmy. I expect
you're also wondering when this
information became available to KP
herself. And I'll be honest with you,
put on a kick. I have thought about
doing some kick stuff. I'm not I'm
actually not even lying. That was also
something I was quite curious to know.
So, whatever. When did you know?
When did I know it was Emmy? Yes. At the
beginning, right? She's known the entire
time. That means she didn't look up a
single thing about her history.
Just want to highlight that KP has known
the entire
time. I need like a soundboard.
Oh, okay. I am literally gay. So, thank
you. from from sort of an outside
perspective, one of the big difficulties
I I guess with this story is you have a
a reasonably sized creator uh for this
space coming out anonymously
um with a very long history with this
group. I mean they, you know, they they
certainly interacted with Saber uh and
everyone else in this, you know, around
the DA group for a long period of time.
I I am surprised you didn't look into
anything about them or question the fact
that they were coming out with this
anonymously.
Um well, the anonymous part seemed
clear. She was afraid that she was get
going to get harassed and with my
interactions with Saber. um and like
other people's interactions with Saber
will he'll try to kind of use his
platform to
looking into
Saber could not find evidence of
that. Now, I know Saber has had previous
history with potentially going against
another creator or another creative from
what I understand, but to my personal
knowledge and from what I could
see, this statement is not evidenced by
facts. I I guess I guess kind of
um shake people a little bit. That's
what he tried to do with me at least.
Um, no one seeming you. Um, I I guess I
didn't question that. So, like I guess
suffice to say I was [\h__\h] stupid and
you know this is going to be another
long week. I don't really know what to
tell you besides that. Before we move
forward, we should probably talk about
who exactly Emmy is. As that may shed a
little light on why they may wish to
remain anonymous. Emmy Jones is best
known, at least from a drama
perspective, for engaging in an affair
with Ryan Drummond, one of the Sonic
voice actors. Yep. and she is generally
deeply disliked by the Sonic fandom
despite the fact that like any
So this was allegedly an alt she
had I'm going to read this for
you. Sup Shu goes on to say, "I miss him
so much,
guys. Guys, I just got [\h__\h] by
Sonic." The voice was
used. Got my massage. It was amazing as
hell. Going to see his show in a few
hours. Got to come
fast. Okay. This is This is
a We'll be to stay on in the bed. Yes,
Becket. Becket will get into this. We'll
have a conversation about it. There are
a lot of
Soap baby, not Super Baby. I said soap
baby. Did I not?
Good fan would. She did apparently get
him to do the voice, but if this was her
only controversy, I don't think it would
be relevant. However, Emmy has a long
history of being an unreliable narrator
or at least being seen as such. I said
earlier that she's been on Dr. Phil and
while this was just a rumor for a while,
Emmy would come out in the So, you can
find this on the official Dr. Phil
video. Emily does talk about it. Emily
was 16 and pregnant. She has a
13-year-old child now.
Um, for a long time, Emily would deny
these
allegations. And actually, from what I
can tell, now the video is biased, so
take that as what you will with a great
assault. What I could tell, she did not
like when people brought it up and would
attack them a little bit on it and
antagonize them a little bit. Granted, I
agree that Dr. Phil is hyper
exploitative. I've talked about it
before. I will say it again. I do not
like Dr. Phil. I have my own issues with
Dr. K, for for instance, on YouTube. I
really don't like those kinds of things.
I feel like it is publicly
exploitative, but it does kind of
weirdly fit with who she is as a person.
So, take that as what you
will. I'm not going to read this whole
thing.
Um, but I will say that listen, she has
every right to want to have privacy for
a child, as well as the fact that she
has every right to to not want to feel
shame for this. Uh, Mad Fox. No, because
it was Sonic's VA up until uh Sonic
Heroes before the
Werehog in the comment section of that
video confirming it was her at 16 on an
episode talking about how she wanted to
become a teen mother. Yeah. Now, it is
not unusual for a content creator who's
been around this long to have their fair
share of dramas, but Emmys have a
particular flavor, and they come in two
parts. Firstly, Ryan Drummond is not
Emy's only sex scandal. Now, obviously,
there's a Dr. Phil episode, but she's
also been accused of using her, shall we
say, assets to force other voice actors
out of roles that she wants. If she
wants to get onto a project, she has to
brute force her way in. And normally,
she does this by sleeping with whoever
she can get her hands on. This is what
ended up happening with Wrath of Nazo.
Originally, the project starred Spirit
of the Blue as Sonic, and his best
friend, Blue-Eyed Fox, was voicing
Tales. Emmy wanted in on this project
because she had a thing for Spirit of
the Blue, and she wasn't exactly happy
that somebody else was voicing Tales, no
less this person's best friend. So Emmy
slept with spirit of the blue so she
could replace blue-eyed fox. It is worth
noting here, okay, does in some way come
from bias sources as we see the theme of
much of this being based on testimony
continue. But the second flavor of
controversy Emmy is known for is
sympathy baiting. While there is the
standard I'm being harassed comment that
you'll see from any run-of-the-mill
creator, perhaps most damning here is
accusations that Emmy on multiple
occasions has scammed her audience
through go. So, we'll talk about these
GoFundMe. So, there are two GoFundMes.
This is how I found out uh easily that
Emmy lived in the two places that she's
talked about. Uh we we'll know why
that's public. It was not docable
information. Excuse me. She's given that
willingly.
So, let's see if I have those on hand
right now because I actually didn't pull
those up and I probably should have.
It's okay. I can I can banter. Okay. So,
getting into like my autistic Halloween
obsession, I will I will give it to Rob
Zombie. He did not make the worst
Halloween movie. It was Halloween Kills.
It was that was the worst Halloween
movie cuz literally there is a scene
where someone tries to shoot [\h__\h]
Michael Myers and he kicks a door and
the person shoots themsel in the face.
Listen, evil dies tonight.
What? Evil dies tonight. Yes, it does.
Let me see if I can find [\h__\h] kill
me, Greg. It was so bad. Uh, let me see
if I can find the other one. Just like
all them trying to kill Mike and all
merked. It's just like it was the most
hilariously bad thing ever I've ever
seen. And I watched the originals and it
turned it into like he's actually a part
of a cult weird thing. I really like the
lore of all of this. I just don't like
the movies. I I think they're pretty
[\h__\h] [\h__\h]
I Halloween or or like I feel that way
about certain things. Like I I think
glor is better than than depiction.
Yeah, I I I'll be honest. I haven't
watched a lot of the the Halloween
movies. They just weren't my thing
personally. Um I I I'm totally fine with
horror movies. I just don't personally
care about them that much, I guess.
Yeah, I have for a long time. I feel
like though nowadays, and I guess back
then too, they're like where you get a
lot of interesting film making. That's
Chris. I love Jason in New York. It is
so cheesy funny. Okay, he punches a
guy's head off like a rockam sakum. It
is hilarious. I can I find this one?
Flashers are just I don't know. I I just
don't like horror in general. Like I I
find the the art style mid. I I used to,
but there's a lot of interesting stuff
that's been happening at least lately.
So like I have to think back if you
throw it back to like throw it back. So
if you take it back to like the 70s and
80s, people were doing also interesting
weird [\h__\h] as well in in their horror
filming escapades. Yes, Chris. Yeah.
Yeah. I would say like when it comes to
like slashers horror when
it's when it's like sleazy like more
like unpleasant like uh terrifier. I
can't watch something like terrifier.
Terrifier is an okay thing but eh like I
I don't like that. If it's like like
Halloween, it's it's mostly like not
it's you know someone's dying. It's not
going to show it like as graphically as
you would expect in other films. Like I
watched I'm watching Gallo right now and
the like most graphics thing I'd seen a
Jalo recently of all the ones I watched
as a woman being beaten to death with
like chains which was that was that was
a special moment. Cool. Cool cool cool.
It was an innocent woman as well.
beat with chain. So just to highlight
for a second. So this was Emy's first
GoFundMe. Now this happened in this was
about six years ago. So it would be
about 2019. So 2019
uh this page was to move Emmy a content
creator from currently living from Ohio
to with her family to California which
would be her daughter.
So starting off, Emmy has a very s
interesting
um series of moments. Uh to start off,
uh Emmy has been diagnosed with severe
PTSD and chronic
disassociation. Along with this, she
also suffers from being diagnosed with
panic disorder, illness, anxiety
disorder, hypochondria,
OCD depression, ligma, generalized
anxiety disorder. currently lives in the
same place that her trauma took place.
She has severe nightmares, DP, daily
anxiety attacks. Damn, she has DP. Yeah,
well, she dreams of DP. Some people only
dream about getting DP.
What's DP? I feel like I'm missing a
joke. Double penetration. Double
penetration.
I don't think that's a medical thing,
though. It's not. It's not. What's the
joke I made? No. Oh, so why California?
She had major support systems and hope
to work on her recovery in California
and advance her career. You are a
content creator. Get a [\h__\h] normal
job. I'm sorry. Get a like your PTSD did
not prevent you from getting a normal
job six years ago. Wait, I want to be
unemployed. So, she did raise 5K uh and
then she found a roommate and she was
able to move. I do want to highlight
that for a second. Uh because there is a
lot of allegations of sympathy scamming.
What's uh what's with the kerning
between the five and the zero? I don't
know why it did that. I don't know why
it did that. What's up with that?
So, moving on. There it is again.
Emmy continues at this point to raise
money for her medical conditions. Um
it's still an active fundraiser, her
target being 17K. Currently 9K has been
Jesus uh been brought up. Help Emmy find
MCAST and eating disorder. Now she has
new disorders.
Chat Mcast new disorders. MCAST's mass
cell activation syndrome and she also
has long COVID. chat, you could feel
however you want to feel about the fact
that she has all of these things that
sometimes
sometimes are used to garner sympathy
and are very hard to prove. I am not
here saying that she does not have these
conditions, but very interesting that
she does have the Jake Doolittle
disease,
molotheloma. Uh she also has MCCAST. Uh
it gives her skin irritation,
gastrointestinal tract, heart
respiratory issues, all of these things,
acid reflux, stomach numbness, but
again, she's also a hypochondric.
Um she has avoided food restrictive
disorder. She still has OCD. Here are
some of the things every day.
Dermat is person.
Is this person a millennial?
She's
20. I want to say she's in her 20s or
30s now. She's in her late 20s, early
30s now. A millennial. Sure. Yeah.
Sure. Damn. Always a millennial. Always
a millennial.
Oh, it's speak going back to horror
movies real quick. I recommend if you
get Cameron is live crashing out again.
There's no way he's crashing out again
on Mama Oko. Yeah. Is he crashing out
again? Oh, that's Oh. Oh, he's having a
bad day. We'll cover that. That's a
pretty bad day if you go on two streams.
Yeah, if you go on two streams of
Oh. Oh,
Cameron. The cows are calling. No, no
detour. No detour. Let's look at that
now. Gamma, we'll look at that later.
This is a long video. I have a lot of
research I want to look at. We could
cover that tomorrow. He is he is in Mama
Ako's stream staying on topic. But
again, she has all of these conditions
and I'm not [\h__\h] on her, but the
this is wild. Again, I understand the
American health system is is [\h__\h]
wucky, but you can't also expect
everybody to pay for your for your
health concerns. Listen, I can barely
pay for mine.
fund me schemes asking for money for a
variety of ailments before mysteriously
appearing at conventions or on holiday.
In the interest of balance, I would like
to challenge at least part of this
because when it comes to the claim that
she used this money to attend
conventions, that doesn't seem to be
true. As when it comes to this period,
she appears to have had a good working
relationship with Sega who would have
covered her attendance. This is this is
a fair statement. Uh she would have had
a a working relationship with with with
Sega.
So, it's very possible that they would
have assisted her in some fashion. I
wouldn't have
said innocent of any of these
accusations, but she does have an
undeniable pattern when it comes to
drama, which is damaging in this case
because regardless of the validity of
these claims against Saber Spark, they
do fit within this motif. There are of
course no perfect victims and none of us
should have those expectations. But in a
case like this where there is no
evidence that the accusations being
made, the credibility of the accuser is
bas Okay, side tangent. Apparently,
that's what they're fighting about is
that Cameron didn't know that they liked
that like people liked Loi and now he's
crashing out over it from what I've
heard. No detouring. Basically, all I or
anyone else has to go on. Yes, Pinker.
That's a thing. She could have also just
had a job. Also just had a job on top of
it. Now, when other people have looked
into it, what they found is a video
called The Queen Fools by Lance Jerk.
And I'm going to lay my cards on the
table here. I have a bit of an issue
with this video, and it feels a touch
like a microcosm of this entire drama.
And that's alongside her reputation as a
backstreet girl and a bad mother being
so wellknown in this fandom that
apparently people are just talking about
it openly, with the final nail in the
coffin being her association with Anime
James and Toon Critic Y2K. two men who,
let's just say, had a similar interest
in women to Jared Fugal. She would have
known that at the time. People didn't
know that.
Like, that's the whole brony community.
You can't [\h__\h] on em you can't [\h__\h] on
Emmy for that. Nobody knew about that
until they got [\h__\h]
got because much of what is presented is
a fragment of evidence and then an awful
lot of speculation. Exactly. And this is
true even for Drummond stuff. Yes, they
had an affair, but we have no idea what
that actually looked like, and it's used
to paint Emmy as a home wrecking [\h__\h]
It's also important to note that
Drummond apparently, like from all
intents of purposes, Ryan Drummond has
never said that she was a home wrecker.
Um, when you see their divorce records,
um, they did allegedly separate and then
get divorced two years later. Divorces
take time. It just happens.
Drummond is not without agency. He was a
abledbody adult. Who the [\h__\h]
cares? [\h__\h] who actively tried to
destroy Drummond's marriage. The fandom
then does exactly what you'd expect.
They treat Drummond as though he has no
agency and he is a victim of some insane
eth. Later on in the video, Lance would
also present testimony from Steven
Seers, a now police officer but former
employee of Sierra Games. But Emmy
denies even knowing this person. And if
it is true, the implications are
incredibly [\h__\h] up because the dates
that Sea originally gives would mean
that Emmy was a minor at the time. When
Seers is confronted on this fact, he
quickly shifts
poses for a second cuz fighting [\h__\h] on
him was interesting. It like it was it
led to nothing.
Mhm. This guy says, "Oh yeah, I knew
that that home wrecking [\h__\h] Emmy. She
wanted to suck my [\h__\h] when when I
worked at Sierra Games. I'm a cop now,
by the way. Yeah, I knew her in like
2009. Oh, that really doesn't make any
sense because um I don't know if you
understand this, but she would have been
16 at the time. Oh, oh, wait, wait,
wait. I must just be getting the dates
wrong. Yeah. Yeah. This
[\h__\h] said, "Oh, yeah. she was a
hoe and everybody knew at Sierra Games
when she was 16. And then he's like,
"Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That must be
wrong. There's definitely no way that
she was 16 when that [\h__\h] happened."
Again, everybody in her dramas as well
is an unreliable narrator.
Now, there are also
allegations of her being
antagonistic against a cancer
patient who may also be a
schizophrenic. That's another weird
thing that's in this Lance Jerkov video
that I think has nothing to do with this
drama, but it's a crazy aside that
maybe Emily Jones attacked a [\h__\h]
brain tumor patient, but also that brain
tumor patient is also schizophrenic and
weird about it. Who knows? Nobody could
source it. It's all hearsay and snipes
on Twitter. No smoking gun.
Yes, blood. Everybody is [\h__\h] crazy.
Positioned to
saying the sonic community. I It's
insane.
2013. But that makes little sense with
the overall timeline of Emy's career.
Yes. Irregardless, I don't know why
we're taking the testimony of a guy who,
while trying to [\h__\h] on this chick,
managed to make himself look like a nun.
Now, none of this should be treated as
though I'm trying to mount some kind of
defense of Emmy. I've got my own
opinions on the allegations, but she
won't talk to me. I have tried reaching
out to have a conversation. She's simply
I have we we tried chat. I tried via her
um her throwaway account. Becca tried
through KP and we tried through Lio.
This woman, this is my biggest issue
with Emmy. Um I know that Emmy has
spoken with uh Lazy Bed Head and uh Mr.
Enter. I have no problem about them. I
got no issues.
My whole [\h__\h] thing is unless you are
running the story the way she wants you
to run it, she will not speak to you for
all intents and purposes. I have an
inherent problem with that because the
only thing I have ever asked of Emmy was
just proof that Saber Spark did this or
proof that you knew and that Saber Spark
had spoken to you about this. Because
remember, cuz I leaked my DMs with her,
she was saying that he would waffle back
and forth about the consent and about
and about them dating and all these
things and she willingly just nodded her
head because she was just a a cautious
observer and she didn't understand what
was going
on. Literally, it's just like I I think
that's one of the things
I tried to follow all the we as as a
channel uh in collaboration with Becket
and Jenny followed all of the evidence
to its finite conclusion to what we
could find publicly
available and even the stuff that was
privately
available. We
couldn't without Emily speaking in my
personal opinion. There is no way to
source the information. I also said this
openly and shout outs to uh friend of
the channel Quite. Quite if you are
somehow watching in chat or you're
chilling out, love you,
dude. Quite gave me the
information about how to retrieve Skype
logs. I forwarded that to Emmy, the
throwaway account, to which they said,
"Oh, well, all of the stuff that I have,
all of the the I've lost all of that
stuff. I've lost everything. Um Um I've
lost every all the evidence of those
things. I don't have
anything. I don't know. I know Enter is
making a video. I know he put it on the
backlog a little bit for more
information. I saying he put it on the
backlog to see what this video would
do." I don't know. Here's what I will
say. I'm very curious about Enter's
video. I am more than willing to hear it
out. I'm very curious about
it. Um, was it She said she had proof on
the Anon account. So, what's the point
of people already knowing it was her?
Why not share it at that point? Yeah,
she did. I don't
know. Not interested. Rather, what I'm
trying to show you is that this
community Yeah. Uh, and and again, like
I
said, I don't know. Enter. So, I have no
I got no bad blow with him. I'm actually
genuinely curious what is happening. Uh
uh because Enter and Bed Head did speak
with her. Uh genuinely curious um
regarding
um just speaking with the private
account, the throwaway account. I did.
Uh White was graciously enough to to
show us the uh ability to grab Skype
logs, forward it to Emmy. She says she
couldn't do it. I still tried to reach
out for comment saying, "Hey, is if this
is you, if this is not you, you should
you should at least speak to it." Didn't
want to do it.
Regularly works of halftruths and
rumors. And that's pretty problematic
when we're talking about very serious
allegations. Even this video from Lance,
great example, because I was asking the
question as to why somebody would drop a
video like this when they've got a
fairly consistent upload schedule and
then seemingly vanish from their channel
and not upload for a year. And when I
went looking for that answer, multiple
people would tell me that Lance had
allegations against him. No one provided
any evidence for this, but if anything,
that's exactly what I'd expect. This has
obviously become so normalized for this
community. And so now, as we move into
how these allegations were handled, it
begins to make a lot more sense why
nobody questioned these allegations
against Sabers Spark before platforming
them. Somewhat depressingly and
ironically, one of the few examples I
can find of anyone doing any due
diligence is actually from KP. So, it's
very hard to read this,
but KP, I believe through Amy New, now I
don't know. I don't think it was Bonk. I
think was Amy New uh someone who will
come up later in this
uh Amy New uh had sent over another
accuser of of I believe Black Griffin,
but that person was not willing to
provide any of the
evidence. Now, if Amy knew sent this
over, I'm going to be point blank when I
say this. This is my inference.
It sounds like to me
anyways maybe it's Destiny or somebody
of that ilk that could prove that
information, but they don't have it.
That's all I'm saying. I can't prove
that. It's only my conjecture and I'm
not saying that for certain.
Furthermore, what's up? I asked you a
question DMs. Are we going to talk about
that or is that not going to be
mentioned? Right.
Okay, just want to know.
Um, here's what I will
say, chat. There's 266 of you and
there's not enough likes here. What's
going on? Remember to like and subscribe
to the video. Let's get those likes up,
chat. I need to see 100 likes on this
video. I I I'm
like, let's let's hit those likes, chat.
He back in March when they were talking
to Brony Fandone about another victim
who'd been handed off to them and had
turned I also DM you. You have to look
at this. What? I got to look at Greg.
[Laughter]
Do you know the
way tail and run the minute they were
asked difficult questions. So this is uh
Hey, here it is. I'm not sure how to
prove it, but I I'm not sure what to do
to prove it as I really don't have
evidence other than my word, but I'm
trying to remain as anonymous as
possible. I don't want Black Griffin to
go after me. FG, I also DM'd you. Thank
you, Cat.
Please go ahead and look at it.
Thank you. Thank you.
And KP even states, "Yeah, figured I
would check cuz God forbid me." A
sentiment which would have been useful
to keep in mind when the next day rolled
around and she was presented with Emy's
victim story.
Emmy KP through Bonk and Amy. For those
who don't know what Amy is, the most
information I could get is that jokes
work best in threes. They are somebody's
wife. That's That's literally it. But
apparently they've known about this
since 2015. Allegedly. I already have
that. Amy wanted to see if I could talk
to the victim, but she left the fan
server and I couldn't message her
anymore. So Amy is the one who sent
it again. Amy is the one that sent
it. Yes, Leia. I know. I know, Leia.
Thank you, Leia.
KP would then work with Emmy to get the
statement prepared for release. Now, as
a clarifier here, there was some editing
of this statement, but as I can see it
being sent by Brony, so this means Bonk
and Amy sent KP a Black Griffin victim
in March.
This also lines up with the concept that
Black Griffin, excuse me, sorry, Bonk
was working with KP on her video when KP
at one time was going to make a combined
Black Griffin all of these videos
and not just uh we got this last second.
I'm sending it to KP because I can't
handle this right now. That also that's
what that means. Uh and and that's
something that really bothers me
throughout this whole process is it's
very very clear throughout the entirety
of this process that Bonk is hiding and
so is Amy hiding their level of
involvement and throwing KP to the
wolves. Again, KP is honest. As much as
you can hate KP, this is highlighting
that they were far more involved and
pushing her
stories. Maybe they shouldn't be [\h__\h]
hiding glass houses. Hey Amy, remember
when you blocked me on Twitter? You
should be afraid
because I know more than you do.
fan don't. I can confirm that the bulk
of Emy's statement was not guided or
influenced by KP. Nevertheless, I was
interested to know how much input she
had had. And when I set Jenny to work on
a little bit of digging, she found the
Google doc that KP had originally put
out. Now, because nobody knows how to
protect Google documents, apparently,
Jenny was able to retrieve the edit
history, which includes notes from KP
intended to guide Emmy in improving the
statement. This level involvement is not
apparent in
So important to note things that were
edited. So, okay,
I was in the room where it happened. The
room where it happened. People don't
hide when they edit documents. And it's
kind of funny because it's really weird.
Yes, there you go. There were edits that
KP gave to the victim impact
statement. [\h__\h] insane. I don't
understand why this was a thing she had
to do. Now, I understand that there were
certain things that maybe you could
guide Emmy on doing better, like giving
specific dates and how they knew each
other. That I feel is
fine.
However, tailoring and giving aspects
and telling her how to write a statement
is really bad for him. And I wonder chat
and I wonder if other people in this
story might just do that to guide Emmy
in improving the statement. This level
of involvement is not apparent in KP's
video. She does not make it clear. And
remember, KP highlights that she got
this accusation last minute. No, she
really
didn't. Not in the way that she's
acting. been working closely with the
victim before the release of this
statement. This allows her in the video
to look like an impartial observer just
reporting on these allegations, which is
not the case. But once again, I think it
is best that you just hear this all from
KP. So there there was a Google doc that
was posted that you did. I'll be right
with her basically her full statement,
the one that was also posted on Twitter
in screenshots. Oh, okay. Okay. So I
guess I forgot I did that, but yes. How
much how much influence did you have on
that statement? Uh
Fis with um he turned the video and
lazy. Um I just gave critique I gave
screenshots here. I'll get the
screenshots of me giving critique to the
to it. Um it's just one of those days,
you know.
Did he Oh, he turned it off for a part.
Oh, look at that face. Look at that.
Look at that [\h__\h] eating green. I was
looking at my assignment so I was just
listening.
Guys, tip the stream so I can buy more
professional [\h__\h] to help this stream
out. Actually, I will say this. You did
see his feet. You did see my grippers.
I'm not wearing socks right now. I am
wearing pants.
Chat, you saw them. You saw them. That's
going to be uh 20 $20.
I would have died. It's a dollar per
piggy. If my ass was on stream, I would
have [\h__\h] died.
If you did, I could show you ass on
stream. It's perfectly fine. Yeah, but
you'd have to turn around.
That's all right. Oh, that was a that
was a special moment. If those dogs were
barking, that is that is [\h__\h]
hilarious. I'm sorry. That may be Oh,
that's that's one of those special
things I do, chat. Oh, yeah. Thank you,
chat. I will
You will double check before you walk
away from the station. Well, I get them.
That's That's my answer. Thank you,
Starshy Professional Stream. Thank you.
Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you.
Professional streamer.
Yes. Every oopsie, every tip you give uh
keeps the stream alive.
Oh, I'm not checking my DMs. I I've seen
the gifts,
chat. I've seen
it. I have so much to
do. Everyone is I love all your DMs.
Thank you, chat. But I got to I got to I
want a drink. And Courtney gave feedback
as well. Okay. When you say critique,
what are we talking about here? Oh, you
heard that right, chat, by the way.
Chat, you heard that right. Courtney's
more involved than at the end. Gave
some. Oh my god.
A dollar for piggy. Thanks for the
grippers.
God, he's going to show more often. Be
careful. Be careful with your donos.
Thank you, Sky Prime. I say this every
time. Uh 100. If you tip a 100, the
shirt comes off. That's That's how this
works. Stop. Not during the stream. So
much
for another shirt. Uh there [\h__\h] a
victory lap for
us. Had to be Cloudy. No. No.
Cloudy became a member. Cloudy
celebrates five months of membership.
Show hog.
All right, I did it. You guys can't see
it. That's sad and that's unfortunate.
Don't Don't say that. That's disgusting.
Disgusting. It's a [\h__\h] joke. It's
comedy. It's literal physical comedy.
Like, what the [\h__\h] am I supposed to do?
Uh 150 for a foot? Sure. I don't [\h__\h]
know. I I don't care. Stop. I'll kick
off my leg.
Again, let me just at least get I trying
to get an adult beverage. Welcome to the
OP block where we have a price. We do.
And it's not that high.
Not as high as you think it is. We're
going We're going all the way to 5K.
Chat,
you know what to do, chat.
Yes. Obviously. Yes. If you tip a 100,
the shirt comes off. I know. I know. No,
I know. And I will switch my my foogie
to sh.
No poose. Okay. Well, this is just going
to happen. So, when do we get peranium
sunning lessons? No.
Next week, I guess. Then it just keeps
saying next week until you die.
Oh, yeah. Since we have like a lull, I I
watched like another uh Oh, god. Bug fly
in my
face. Um, another movie. I think it was
called the the shadow within. It was a
1970s Japanese thriller. Thank you.
Nimudra tips
$3.33. Heyo. Giving that out for free.
Keep it to the fans. SMH.
That's what I'm saying. Hard not. That's
why I said give me 10 bands in one go
and I'll open a feed only fan.
I'll make an only feed.
So, so the show is about like a Japanese
businessman who cheats on his wife with
like another lady and he starts to think
that that this lady that he's cheating
on his wife with son wants to murder
him, right? And the son's like six years
old.
There's
um we're talking like horror. I like
suspense. Uh yeah, suspense. Suspense is
is a type of horror for sure. Yeah. Uh
God, it's it's a book. Okay, I know
Claudia has also read uh read it called
Piercing. Yes, heard. I'm trying to
remember what the author's name was. Is
that the guy who did coin locker baby?
Uh maybe 300 for Fi to sit up and stand
down with his feet on in the camera and
his mic on the floor. Yeah, sure. 300.
Yeah. Yeah. 300, but only from Gremer.
Um it has to be 300. one shot flow of
realami of yes corner her babies
that's like basic English stuff like
nothing really the the she she wrote
most of it herself and I like put this
into paragraphs and oh he wrote feedback
on like the grammar and the general flow
of it that was really it keep to focus
okay I'm just having a quick read of
this so generally speaking uh you were
in conversations with Emmy um and you
were working on the flow of this
statement to present something to the
public. Mhm. I mean, I I suppose my core
question is why didn't you provide an
interview call with Emmy if you kind of
had access to that? Um, she was afraid.
I mean, I I I even asked her if she
wanted to verbally read her own
testimony in the video, but she was
afraid that people could recognize her
um because she's a voice actor. um the
her her her voice and then I said,
"Well, why don't we pitch what if we
pitch it down?" She says, "No, I think
people would still be able to recognize
it." I was like, "Okay." Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. So, okay.
Um you understand that kind of where the
way this works, 7 minutes in and 3 hours
into the stream, a victim statement that
looks far more distant from you than is
the reality. And then you have a long
conversation with Courtney where you are
essentially Yeah.
uh
providing context to how you are seeing
this almost at a distance which is I I
would say fairly misleading to an
audience.
Yeah, it's a whole conversation on
consent. Yeah, the the the the idea with
that is so for those who don't remember
there is an entire conversation about
implied consent that consent is not
implied and Courtney Pete lovingly
superior rape victim Courtney
Pete she is more important than your
rape. She completely says, "Oh, well,
flashing titties is consent, giving a
[\h__\h] weirdo like [\h__\h] excuse for
rape that I've never [\h__\h] seen in my
life to the point where I'm just like,
you need you need to shut up. Shut the
There should never be a point where I
have to say
this, Chad.
If if a woman shows you a titty that is
not consent to touch them
or it is but you have that
conversation can can I touch the titty
and they say yes then you can touch the
titty. Yes. There is an implied there
the secret is can I bite it? Sure.
Here here's the thing
right implied consent is a real thing
between previously consenting parties.
It is a thing because fun fact, the
nonverbal part of consent is a part of
consent if you look it up. Now, that is
not an excuse to sexually assault a
partner that you already have.
Intermarital rape
happens. It literally happens and it's
very common. It's why spousal abuse is a
real thing and interpartner violence is
a real [\h__\h] thing. But to completely
disregard the fact that everybody can
have infat like need directly needs
emphatic consent because there are
people who are non-verbal for for
instance. There are people that have
known each other for a period of time
and when they know they're hanging out,
they know what's [\h__\h] happening and
it's all consensual and on the level
literally it's still a version of
communication.
uh Oblak, who uh who the [\h__\h] keeps
denying that intermarital rape happens?
A lot of cultures. But like more more
importantly, it's identifying the fact
that intermarital rape would be well, we
have implied consent. Well, we've
already set the ground rules for
consent. And it's like, no, I mean that
encounter, if somebody says no in that
encounter, it still means no. But again,
like the problem is Courtney, again,
I've said it before and I will always
say it. I'll stand a 100 toes down on
it. Courtney Pete believes that she is
the superior sexual assault victim and
it's really [\h__\h] disgusting. We
didn't really go over
Courtney's video on Black
Griffin. We may do that one of these
days. Um I was thinking because I know
uh Beckett wanted to look a little bit
more into it. Maybe I'll pop on on his
stream if he ever does it. But like it's
really really disgusting. Regardless how
you feel about Black Griffin, it's
really [\h__\h] disgusting. Like it hurts
my heart to listen to because this
person is teaching people so
inappropriately, so incredibly
inappropriately.
I'm just not familiar with essay in
general. Um, I believe
I'm gonna let that just [\h__\h] rock.
I'm not familiar with sexual assault.
No, you shouldn't have me. It's a weird
statement. Mhm. Courtney being sexually
assaulted does not make her a [\h__\h]
expert on being sexually assaulted. It's
actually really harmful.
It's like a [\h__\h] sexual assault
advocate. Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't need like the prerequisite of
being a victim advocate is not being a
victim yourself. It's really bad to say
that. It's really poor to say
that. Me when I'm in a middle school,
I'm not familiar with MSA.
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Um, I believe that
[Music]
um you are familiar with Courtney's
history. She was someone I trusted. So,
I just felt like it would be helpful in
a call to
um to to talk about it from someone's
pers um an SIS um survivor's
perspective. So, that was kind of the
intention. Okay. So I mean there is
another element to this in that Google
document. Um you are providing editing
notes at points where you're saying that
here's where you should mention this was
non-consensual. Um in both those
instances
um yeah that was the that was
um I just wanted to make a note to make
that clear because that's what she said
to me.
That is it's fair, but it's also
confusing. I'll be honest. What it looks
like is that you had somebody come to
you with a victim story and then you
tailored their Yes. Um victim. This is
part of the problem. It is Becket is
touching. It feels like KP and Courtney
are interacting with Emy's statement to
make it possible to fit in their video
and then talk around it instead of
present the allegations as facts. And
that's the
problem. It is not the presentation of
facts. It is the presentation in a
video. really unhealthy
impact statement which
is quite bad. Um but like I've seen
little bits of kind of the conversations
through LEO where you know there's a
question with one of the other members
of the DA group where it's like well
should we re-record the interview and
Lio says well no let the interview stand
as is. You can provide context
afterwards but the interview should
stand as your interview. When you've got
something like this, the way it looks to
me is you've got, okay, well, this is
the statement from the victim. I know
that I'm going to use this in a video.
How do I make this like what are the
points that I need to hit with an
audience? Which is um I mean, not
[Music]
great. I mean, so was the general
critique. I just let them talk and I did
it like
it's not critiquing your video. Holy
[\h__\h] Okay, sure.
Ask them like I don't I don't really I'm
not really following. So, the general
critique is this. You let them talk and
then you took their statement and
tailored it to be more impactful for
content that you were planning to
release. And at the same time, I've got
statements from Bernie fan that you also
provided statements to the other DA
victims, which was sort of a line to
take, which we do know uh because the DA
the DA games victims have have kind of
confirmed that and showed that to us in
our discord, which you could join. Um
again, I understand what KP was doing.
She was trying to coalate and get
everybody together. Technically, the
fact that she was in and around the
creation of the Google
doc is a part of that, too. It's not I
actually don't even put that as a knock
on her. Um because by all admittance,
you know, you guys also like in some way
did shape and form she was involved in
that process or helping with the vetting
of that process. It just sucks because
it seems that for Emmy it was a lot more
involved to draw blood from the stone
which is really really important taste
and very detrimental.
I don't remember. Can you put that
strange? Unironically I'm going to make
this faster because I I forgot how many
pauses Emmy has. I mean KP has. I don't
know who's winning between pregnant
pauses, Cameron or or KP. I don't know
yet.
Shot in there. I don't really remember
that. Oh, yeah. Give me one second. It
would have been this one.
Oh, I mean I just I just wrote that um
to be helpful so he didn't um have to do
it. And my intention was essentially
like, "Hey, I wrote a thing. Change it
however you feel fit." Um I So that was
um and I guess he thought that I was
trying
to put words into his mouth. Um and I
just just like so things that I assumed
were um like he had talked to the victim
extensively. He he didn't and I didn't
know that. So um you know I guess I was
the only one that talked to to her
extensively. Um, besides Amy. Um, but
um, yeah, he's one of my people I or one
of the people I need to kind of talk to,
but I'm also afraid he's going to
screenshot me out of context again. And,
you know, that's scary as well. So,
yeah, I understand that. I mean, it's
it's partly Sure. He's also a [\h__\h]
weird schizophrenic. I mean, what I run
up against is when I see stuff like
this, you said, you know, putting words
in people's mouths. The problem is what
I've got to go on is kind of like what I
can pick through and see which uh not
just tailoring but basically becoming
co-authors on on the piece. It sounds
like KP is putting her unrequited
desires for Saber and Courtney is using
it as a soap box for her weird trauma
agenda. Yeah, I I don't necessarily
disagree. Uh KP has her own history with
Saber from what we can find. Um Henry
and Casey will talk about it uh a little
bit more, but it's very clear that KP
has gone back and forth between hating
this group of people and desperately
wanting to be their friend. Desperately
wanting to be their friend. And it's and
it's such a weird like dichotomy. It's
it's it's very obvious that it's
unhealthy for her.
Regardless of how you feel about KP, it
is an unhealthy standard that she is
setting for herself. Very bizarre.
Timeline wise is there are multiple
documents being written um including the
large DA document which had way more
victim impact statements, many of which
have been pulled entirely. Um I believe
one of them is um James. Um yeah, James
James Jamie also got a Okay, so fun
fact, side note, DA Games guys, uh you
left the ability to see the edit log
there.
So yeah, that was the thing season. So
that scared him, right? Um pull out
entirely. So So what I've got in front
of me is multiple documents in which
there have been many chefs involved in
these particular kitchens and it it
feels very guided which is is concerning
when we're talking about hit pieces
because then you know how much is how
much is influenced not just by the
people who may have gone through these
things but by people who are looking to
then utilize them because Bernie Fando
has been going after Black Griffin in
this group for years now. years like
like at least since 2020 since 2023 that
we could find. There is some evidence of
him being weird about it in like even
like
2020ish uh 2021ish. It it's it's it's
very hard to source. Like some of them
are just like screenshots that have like
no source to it or weird remarks about
them. So like we didn't like I I didn't
include it because I didn't feel like it
was pertinent. Um because those
screenshots are like they're they're
ephemeral to I don't know what they're
referencing. It's not like but it is
clear that there's years since Claire
and Gabe got together that it was tied
like that and that's part of the problem
that I have.
Um just to be clear I had nothing to do
with the DIA games document. Uh those
were written uh way before I got
involved just to clarify. Okay. Can you
can you just explain some of these edits
in this document though? Uh like what
does the highlighted in purple mean?
Turn the light off cuz warm in here.
Okay, that's fine. It's fine. Um Chad,
I'm starting to get warm. If only
someone can donate $100.
Jesus, that was [\h__\h] That was
actually that was that was that was
ebggging. That was ebegging. Even I
didn't couldn't finish the [\h__\h]
statement. Holy [\h__\h]
I couldn't finish that. Oh, so yeah,
it's it's a placement of things of like
bring up the fact that he did not I'll
teach you how to ebeg. Hey chat, uh
please please please
please. Now now just imagine that I'm
putting some uh like desperation in my
voice there. You do the rest. That's
funny. Okay. Oh, I'm dead.
I just gave screenshots that u gave more
context. too
little money or author feedback at a
statement and
um I mean not to blame her. No, she sure
I mean again it's I I get this is a
collaborative process and Courtney's not
here to sort of give her side of what
happened. So I don't want to start just
blaming people who aren't around. I
suppose I suppose and this is why people
are focusing on the saber spark stuff.
you have is testimony of something that
happened over a decade ago um from one
person who chose to remain anonymous who
has a long internet history which is
mixed again like I'm sure that there are
two sides to the Emmy story in fact a
few people are quite interested in the
other side of that Emmy story you know
I'm going to I'm going to attempt to get
it because she seems to tr I mean
obviously don't u release these
screenshots publicly at least not not
now without asking but she seems to
trust me right now so
um for lack of a better word I'm pretty
uh she didn't she did not trust trust
her. [\h__\h] pissed and I feel like a
dupe that was put on. She did not trust
her chat. She sent that voice message.
She did not trust her for a ride. But my
implication with everything with so Bonk
came to me with their with this um story
cuz he was having mental health problems
at the time and he didn't have the
energy to deal with it. So my
understanding, you know, feel free to
ask him. It was this was going to come
out regardless of me. So I was just
there already making a video about it.
So it just seemed like Yeah. Sure. But
this stuff had been building for a while
um on some of the DA stuff. I I can see
that from the documents. But this stuff
with Emmy uh seems to have come right
out of the blue, right where you needed
it. And you seem to not have questioned,
should we say, the good fortune of of
that happening. You seem to have just
gone, "Oh, great. Cool. Well, now I've
got something to go saber with." Um
well, let me clarify. Um so I I I would
imagine you can ask Amy about this. I
don't how long she Maybe she said 2023,
I think. Um, but she has known about
this for a couple of years. Amy is um
Peter New's wife who um I mean don't
tell her I I sent you because she
doesn't like me right now. But
amazing. Don't worry, we don't like her
either.
Um she was the one I originally talked
to to get in contact with um Is that the
is that the other Pegasus sister or
whatever the hell? Uh no, I don't think
Amy has a presence in the the fandom.
Okay. Okay. cuz I'm just like she does.
Oh, she does. Even for me, I'm just
trying to make sense of who half these
people are. Now, it might be slightly
hypocritical for me of all people to
criticize someone else for becoming too
involved in a story, but there are lines
to this. And getting a victim to edit
their impact statement is certainly a
line. While KP argues this is to clarify
and fill in gaps, these edits read far
more as trying to remove any Oh. Oh,
wait. Yeah, that's [\h__\h] The edits are
crazy. doubt and emphasize things like
the power imbalance. Making sure a
victim's impact statement fits more
easily with the arguments you've been
making in your video is certainly highly
unethical. Within the DM logs between KP
and Emmy, KP provides feedback from
Courtney Pete. One particular line of
interest is, and it sort of kills me
that she
So Courtney Pete said a bunch of
different things. I want to read these
out just so people understand how
[\h__\h] weird this person is and you
guys can make the determination if this
is a person who definitely doesn't need
to be in a psych
ward. I read the victim's testimony.
Poor kid. I know she's over 18, still a
kid to me. She's older than you maybe. I
don't [\h__\h] know. She has a child.
Only note I really have is that if I
were her, I'd probably explain how slash
when her clothes were taken off during
the first assault. Can't edit. As much
as it is going to suck to have to relive
to type that. And that consent is never
implied ever. Not with married couples,
dating couples, friends with benefits,
previous hookups, etc.
So, frankly, anyone who thinks it's
implied is already in the
wrong because Oh, now I'm getting my
voice in
there. Let's do it. Because people
secure in their sexual encounters, uh,
even those insecure, but not monsters,
is still checking in. And it sort of
kills me that she might have been giving
any sort of grace to him at the expense
of oh my god herself because she
considered it was
implied. My BF and I have been together
almost seven years. Also, she weirdly
[\h__\h] highlights that she's in an age
gap relationship by the way. [\h__\h]
bizarre. It's not in this. It's in the
Black Griffin video. She's like, "Oh, I
am the [\h__\h] be all end all of age gap
relationships. [\h__\h] you're crazy."
Or is it because when the sun shine we
shine together? Told you I'll be here
forever. S I'll always be your friend. I
mean I'm in a relationship. Does that
make me an expert? No. No.
Ash compared to them I am. Don't listen
to I like mils. Does that make me an
expert? Yes. Cat. Oh definitely. You are
the best.
uh and lived together for almost five
years, but he still asks me if I want to
have sex even when I'm naked in bed next
to him and he doesn't touch me without
asking. And that's what cassette looks
like. And that's what somebody who cares
about Cassette looks like. And yeah, my
cringe-lord ass will say touchdown 10
points and high-five him and say go team
afterwards because it's funny because
that's because we both enjoyed
ourselves. People don't experience fight
or flight in a normal healthy sexual
encounter
only assault. Uh who asked? Yeah, I
know. I know. I know. Giving any sort of
grace to him at the expense of herself
because he considered it implied. And
this isn't just a throwaway line. It's
intermingled amongst a tirade on how
consent works, emphasizing why that line
in particular is an issue. It would
work, too. Emmy does change her
statement because of this. And here's
the crazy part. Emily changed her
[\h__\h] statement. And you want to know
what's crazy? That's not even the
craziest part of this feedback. Hey,
sorry. I removed the part giving him
grace by saying I understand he may have
thought consent was implied. Courtney is
definitely right. I just know his retort
is going to be him believing consent was
there. Courtney is right though. It was
never implied even if I did like him at
the time. This is direct evidence that
KP and Courtney worked to tailor the
victim statement to make it more
damaging. And the reason this is an
issue is because it's not how Emmy
necessarily sees the situation. It is KP
and Courtney trying to influence Emmy to
perceive the situation through their
lens. If you care about what victims
have to say, and this story is full of
people who don't care what victims have
to say, you should respect those
original statements. But as if to
perfectly encapsulate my point of how
[\h__\h] careless everyone here is, I
went to check the release statement and
that section about implied consent is
still present. I thought I was losing my
mind for a second because I've read
these DMs. So, I went back to check and
I'm right. I'm showing you the original
statements applied by Emmy to KP and
I've highlighted the word implied. But
if we scroll all the way down to her
updated statement, and I cannot [\h__\h]
believe this, it's gone. Emmy did make
this edit, but KP is paying so little
attention, she didn't even include it in
the final document. So Emily updated the
statement to take everything about
implied out. But because these people
are so [\h__\h] moronic, she didn't pay
attention and grabbed the wrong version
of the statement.
the wrong version which everybody saw
because there were multiple implied
notes and it was very
weird
interesting very interesting chat for
release. No wonder those involved in
this didn't care about the fact that
Emmy has no evidence for the allegation
she's making. They don't even care about
her actual testimony. And don't worry
because this situation somehow becomes
more absurd cuz you'll remember Liio
advised KP that this was a matter for
the authorities and they would require
at the very least a police statement to
be filed if they were planning to run
this story. One of the things that got
sort of mentioned was Lio's involvement
and I was interested uh in how far that
involvement kind of went. Um I mean
maybe you can speak to that. It doesn't
seem like Lo is from what I have seen
that involved. He doesn't seem to have
seen the video before it came out. Um, I
think Lio said to me when he when asked
about this particular statement and this
victim, um, his advice was don't run
this, um, that seems to have been his
involvement and go to the police about
stuff. Is that unfair? Um, I don't
remember the don't run this, but um,
yeah, we did have a extensive
conversation where we recommended that
she go to the police and get a police
report first. Um,
the don't run this was when I told you
you shouldn't put this in a video. Okay.
Because a police report wasn't filed.
That's what you're referring to.
Liio is the voice of
reason. Liio's the voice of
reason. Let that sink in for some of the
Lio haters, which I get. Believe me, I
have my own qualms with Lio that I have
told
him, but he do know the
way. He do know the way. Okay. Okay.
Well, that's that that's why we released
the cosmic sign was Lion knew that this
was a bad look and he asked he asked
them to get a police
report, asked them multiple times why
didn't they do it?
Is it on Twitter first to um kind of
have it um Well, I don't I don't know if
that helps because that if anything
makes it worse, KP, because it looks
like you've gone, oh, we don't have a
police report, but if this is gaining
traction on Twitter, then I can put it
in a video, a video you are already
making with a victim you are already
speaking to.
Um I I don't really have a response to
that. Okay. Um,
so what I'm running against Come on, KP
be better is um there are going to be
multiple sort of views on this video.
Um, from everything from stupidity to
malice. Um, I don't know where I sit
with that at the moment. I'll be honest,
because you know, I know you you by your
own admission do not like this group of
people. You have a history with them.
you were handed stuff that was um you
couldn't substantiate from years ago and
you know you use that to make
essentially rape by coercion argument um
against somebody without even speaking
to Saber about it. Um I mean it's pretty
[\h__\h] wild
frankly. No, I I I get it. Uh I I
um No, I was just stupid and I wanted to
She came to me. She like bonk already
knew I was making this video. It just
seemed like another victim testimony to
ad like the video games one.
Unsurprisingly, when we're dealing with
a community that just repeats things
they've heard over and over again until
they somehow become true, even when it
is once again life ruining accusations.
KP and others and we're about to get to
them. KP, you're [\h__\h] the
bag.
KP, what are you
doing? Those people worked on the
assumption that once this was out on
Twitter, coverage of it was fair game.
But to be clear, in the DMs, KP is
scheduling this with brony fand. And the
statement itself even goes out early and
has to be removed. Despite how [\h__\h] up
all of this is, the level of
incompetence is unironically just
[\h__\h] hilarious. Predictably, once the
video had been released and backlash was
in, these little rats started fleeing
the sinking ship. Fan's DMs here are
pretty interesting. But we'll get to his
section in a little bit. However, one
thing I want to point out is this tweet
from May 5th where Fandone says, "I
talked with her in call about the
problems. She told me she was surprised
by the reactions because her team and
the victim viewed it prior and liked it.
I did not realize at the time that she
was lying."
That's a lie. Well, I can prove that in
this case, at least KP wasn't because
Emmy did see the video and Emmy said,
"Thank you for doing that. I need to
hear that. Honestly, it was very
helpful." Here's also what Emmy said. I
can prove that in this case at least KP
Emmy said the video made her cry wasn't
because Emmy did see the video and had a
positive reaction to it. Before we move
forward though, I do think it is
valuable to hear something that isn't
just my opinion. Positive reaction. I
was in LA for a big but for a bit I'm
sure. But no rush. I'm in NYC now for a
gig. And for a gig. And my tit mouse
content here is like girl it's so bad.
Yo, I don't think you'd be working with
Tit Mouse no more.
I like Tit Mouse to it. Before we move
forward though, I do think it is
valuable that you hear something that
she also does lie about business
connection. So, I have no [\h__\h] clue
that's true. Isn't just my opinion or
KP's own statements. And one person
who's known this group of people for a
significant period of time is Henry,
Saber Sparks editor. Let's let's talk
about KP and your experiences with her.
Sure. How did you first get to meet KP?
Uh through the convention scene. So,
going to different conventions.
basically she would either be a panelist
or a guest. She would show up to these
cons and even back in the early days it
was kind of um you know everyone was
trying to be friends together and and
you know establish relationships but you
would find that there were some people
that just you know you weren't
necessarily vibing with or that they
weren't on the same wavelength. So yeah
uh KP was one of those individuals early
on to me that um I just got a sense of
entitlement and a sense of you know her
demeanor was very offputting. So a lot
of people kind of created this uh you
know mindset like don't necessarily
include KP if she's trying to wedge her
way into panels and or you know scenes
on these uh these convention floors and
stuff like that. So yeah I mean I have
firsthand experience of times where I've
had to kind of you know create that wall
for her to just say like don't try to
you know come into our space because you
know you have the sense that like you
know nepotism or not nepotism what is it
a narcissism? Yeah like narcissism is
strong with her. Yes it is.
Yeah. Good. Can you give me some
examples of some experiences you guys
have just had with KP over the years?
Because I know, you know, Sabre
mentioned their relationship in the
response and never think it would be
helpful if people get hard colors. Yeah.
So, uh, well, a firsthand experience
would be uh, so at uh, Equestria LA
2017, we had a bad fan bad fanfic
reading panel. KP showed up. She was
sitting in the front row kind of
heckling us the whole time saying, "Hey,
let me go up on stage." You know, just
trying to kind of wedge our way into
this thing where we had to, you know,
get prior approval to get this panel
approved. Imagine getting heckled by I
love Kim Possible a lot. Imagine.
But but Foundry, you don't get it. I
love the cartoon horse more.
[\h__\h] Oh my god, that's
insane. Imagine. We have the people who
are panelists on that panel. Um she has
done this many times where it's kind of,
you know, she thinks she knows best or
that she should be included and tries to
wedge her way in. um other experiences
that you know I wasn't necessarily
firsthand for. Uh she was at Ciderfest.
Uh and uh so correction is the Jen Blake
situation was trying to use her booth
for getting commissions happened at
Midwest Brony Fest and was relayed to me
at Ciderfest. So I believed it happened
at the same convention. So uh let's be
let's just to let it known uh what Henry
is going to go into the fact that uh KP
tried to steal commissions from a
different person. a artist named Jen
Blake had a booth in the vendor hall. Uh
KP, you know, trying to talk to Jen, uh
positions herself kind of behind the
vendor table. And as Jen is taking on
commissions and, you know, interacting
with guests who are there for her, uh KP
wedges herself in and says, you know,
oh, I'd be willing to, you know, take
some commissions, you know, if you guys
want from me. And kind of almost like
trying to funnel business away from
actual comic artist that works on IDW's,
you know, MLP comics. And I could tell
that Jen was very uncomfortable about
the whole situation and kind of made it
clear that, you know, KP was not welcome
to be there anymore. Um because like
yeah, she just didn't have like this
concept of what she was doing was wrong.
Um and she has many instances of that.
Uh I mean I can even point
KP you know you said once to Chris
afficionado that he sounded a little bit
autistic. Sit on that for a moment KP.
I'm sorry. Oh god. For my au my aus in
chat please. I'm sorry for my aus in
chat. You know what to do. Love y'all.
very interesting
to another one where it's more of a
private thing. So, it's not necessarily
something where I'm going to say I had
firsthand experience, but I heard the
story. Uh, so she moved to California
and um, who was it? Rachel was having a
like show within uh, LA and she's a
well-known individual kind of know has a
awards and history, you know, and I can
see the appeal of wanting to go to say
like a Rachel Bloom show. She's a fan.
Um, the problem was is that KP kept
telling people that she had an inn or
like some sort of connection to, you
know, talk to Rachel Bloom and she
really wanted to go to the show to kind
of hand over her portfolio and see if
they could work together on stuff. Well,
she lied about that. She she never
actually had like a connection with
Rachel Bloom. She just knew that the
show was going to happen and she was
going to kind of more or less spring it
on her at the end and just like wait
outside the stage door to give her
things. But when people, you know, asked
her, "Hey, how do you have a connection
with this? Like how did you, you know,
broker this deal?" um you know she's
lying the whole time saying oh well you
know I just I have a way to you know get
to her and talk to her about this stuff
and I just want to see if she wants to
work on this project you know a video
project and yeah it's just it's example
after example um Casey and I well mainly
Casey tried really hard when she first
moved to LA to be a mentor for her I had
already had my prior experience with her
so I was already I had written her off
kind of as I'll believe it when I see it
like her attitude changed and her her
demeanor changed um but when she moved
to LA she was very much in the mindset
of hey I want to kind of like you know
start over I want to you know be better
uh so Casey offered to be her mentor for
and pointed out many times where it was
like, hey, you can't kind of act this
way towards people. You need to also be
mindful that, you know, if people don't
want to be friends. Yeah. So, the TLDDR
of this
is the biggest problem with KP is that
she was socially inept because she
really think that everyone owed her
something and she didn't understand what
that meant. And when people kind of
approached her with it, she would get
very defensive about it. extremely
defensive to the point where when people
didn't want to be her friends anymore,
she took it as personal business attacks
because she cannot differentiate her own
personal problems for her as the persona
and business person that she believes
that she is with you. You don't have
that uh right to say, you know, you need
to be friends with me. Um the narcissism
part, you know, rearing his head. I
would just say that KP had many examples
of um another individual who she had
beef with was uh Casey Racebest. He he
basically said, "I don't want to be
friends with you." Long time ago, uh I
think Casey, you know, suggested that KP
reach out and try to get to the bottom
of why they never could be friends. He
gave her, you know, a detailed response
as to why his reasons. And she lashed
out. She basically started cursing him
out, sending him a long message. I'm
sure there is a chat log out there that
could actually be uh presented for that.
But it just it goes to show that she
definitely has had both a a beef with
Steven and other individuals who haven't
kind of in her mind lifted her up with
them. You know, they became successful
and she saw it as why not me. Uh you
know, her her content in the community
as a whole was kind of lackluster or
like you know it got views, but as soon
as you know she kind of wanted to shift
away from that, she couldn't pivot in a
way where her content was that's AC
Racebest is another person in the Brony
community who is um friendly with uh
Sabers Spark. uh Henry Casey and and and
Black Rifen. So I think she very much
internal and and the story goes as Henry
is stating that like they had a falling
out and and even though there was some
attempts to at least have a a polite
distance. KP did not want that. KP
either wanted blood for the blood god or
be the best friends that a girl could
buy.
internalize a lot of this like why is it
that Steven was able to do that with
Saber Spark? Why is it that other
individuals are able to make their
livelihood you know work for them? So
yes, yeah, those are just some of the
examples. Firstly, you want to add a
correction for Henry for the uh race
best story. Oh yeah. Um I never advised
Rachel to contact Jeffree at all. Um I
talked to her after she had lashed out
and I was not happy with her and I told
her as much.
This is all very just disappointing and
sad for me personally. So, I'm sorry if
I sigh quite a bit. I I pointed out that
her they have very little in common
other than liking one TV show in the
whole world and what is her deal with
wanting to be friends with this one guy
and she didn't have a very good answer
for me. She she struggled with that. She
literally stammered to why I don't
actually remember what she said. It
wasn't very
substantial. But no, I did not tell her
to reach out to Jeff. Um, he told me
that she lashed out and you could
probably tell the story of how
frustrated I was with her because I went
to bed for Rachel and I had I had told
people that moving to LA had caused her
to grow and mature as a person. It is
difficult. The entertainment industry is
difficult. Let's be real and she was
trying and I thought maybe it would have
given her some life perspective that she
had lacked before and then she went and
made me out to be a liar and I was super
not happy with her about that. Like
that's this is I mean is it fair to say
that this is the end of any industry
contact she had left that essentially
it's destroyed any remaining friendship
she had.
That's going to hurt in the morning.
That's as far as my sphere that's pretty
accurate.
I I know that
people that I know know that if I say
something I mean it. And I did tell
everyone. I posted the link to my
Twitter and I said, "This is my stance.
I just want all of you to know." And I
already knew that a lot of our mutuals
had put her on the information
diet. So like, did this do it? I don't
think so. She was She had already dug
the grave. This is just the last pile of
dirt. As far as industry context, what
did she have? Before we move forward, I
want to write a little disclaimer
because we're going to talk about the
other people who are involved in this.
And I don't want this to come across as
some sort of exoneration of KP and
Courtney. It's just that there are other
people involved with blood on their
hands. Since the video came out, a lot
of people have been trying to use them
as scapegoats, understandably. But
realistically speaking, many of the Hey,
kick in the sweet morning. Good morning.
Good morning. Good morning, buddy. Good
morning from Sweden to every pony.
Clipclop.
No, none of that. No, no clip. No,
people should not be feeling
particular obviously levels of blame to
go around group and where we're going to
start is people who have also run
allegations fed to them by brony fandom
because realistically they've done
exactly the same thing as KP did they've
just been lucky about it and this little
group can be perfectly encapsulated
through one particular YouTuber Lazy
Bedhead. The reason we're starting here
of all places is because on levels of
culpability, just believing a document
that's handed to you is something that
So I I've already said my quotes on Lazy
Bedhead. I think her video is so
fencitting, wishy-washy, but also
incredibly reckless.
Um, Becket will be kinder than me. I
would say I would say much harsher
words. Uh, he will be harsh, but I would
say harsher. But I understand why. Uh,
in my personal opinion, I agree with him
for his own take. It's just my take is
different because I don't like her. I
mean, yeah, we we don't we don't just
look at Google Doc and go, "Okay, this
tracks. I'm not going to look up
anything else about what what's going
on." Yeah. You y'all could never make me
hate Lacy. I mean, that's fine. I don't
like her. I don't Let me be real. I
don't I'm not going to stop you. Yeah. I
don't like her.
I'm just disappointed in that she Hey
guys, when you cover pony drama, are you
the clock block? Funny that you
mentioned that because we have a piece
of art somewhere that FG is pulling up
right now. I I I that Cloudy has it
right now. I don't know where But that
Cloudy is DMing him right now.
I talk she talks about Becket having
biases but ignores her own when she
gobbles up everything Mr. Enter and fan
don't fed her without question. Yeah, I
believe me.
I Becca is kinder than me. I will be I
I'll actually be straight up. Becca
kinder than me. Generally speaking, a
lot of YouTubers do trusting that the
vetting has already been done for them.
In fact, I'm not saying that all don't
be me. That's fine. Do you believe that
Brony found Amy had already vetted
Emily? When you randomly cuck men, are
you the [\h__\h] block?
It's not random when he does it. It's
not random. It's actually happened. Um,
of course it is. But my annoyance comes
from the fact that it's shockingly
common in this story. Pinky and would
ask Pinky if she liked a picture of his
penis. Would straight up delete the
Twitter account. Oh, Pinky doll. Pinky
associated with this interaction and
wouldn't I don't we don't [\h__\h] know.
We don't. Okay. Yeah. When you click a
random man men are streamers can't read.
Gamma, you know it. Discover Black
Griffin until years later when he voiced
Alistister in the Hasb Hotel pilot.
Destiny also addressed the creators of
Billy Bustup which we can discuss. Okay.
Uh again, I'll say it.
Destiny Doodles was fighting in
Beckett's uh uh comments and then
deleted all of her
posts. She don't got [\h__\h] If she got
[\h__\h] she would have showed it. I'm
being
straight. Show it for the love of God.
Don't just being straight and weird and
cringe. Please show the evidence
later. Now, since this was when Destiny
was 13 years old, hindsight is 2020, so
none of the chats or this dickpick was
ever documented or screenshots taken.
So, for now, these are just allegations
from memory. Although, I do think this
testimony coming forward does sort of
confirm the sneaking suspicion that
people have had about Gabe for years up
until this point. No, it
doesn't. Fun fact, don't
What's up? It's okay if we don't sing
everything. I had to point story from
Courtney Pete's own video. She
interviews two individuals who have been
a part of the brony community and
convention space. Oh, look. It's KP and
Sophie Scrugs for years. Even they have
testified that constaff and community
members had speculated of Gabriel's
grooving relationship with Claire for
decades. Now, this requires us to talk a
little bit about the Black Griffin
allegations. I don't want to go too deep
here because it is a hell of a focus.
The Destiny allegations to give you a
TLDDR. claims that in 2012 she
interacted with Gabe and during those
interactions while she was a minor, Gabe
would flirt with her and also offered
her a dickpick. Much like the
allegations against Saber Spark, there
is no evidence for this. Even in the
document, it is noted that it can't have
been in 2012 because Twitter didn't even
She says it's in 2012. Fun fact,
literally couldn't have sent video
proof. You couldn't have sent images in
on Twitter in 2012. You sent
images like it doesn't even work. It's
not correct. It doesn't make sense. He
could have like if the timeline is the
way that she presents it, he couldn't
have sent a picture over Twitter because
Twitter didn't have that feature.
Insane. In actually insane. Add the
function to send pictures in DMs until
December of 2013. And yet, Lazy Bedhead
uses the fact the allegations even exist
in the first place to try and label
Black Griffin a predator. And I'd like
you to keep in mind here that Fando
themselves admits that they don't have
proof behind the Destiny allegations. In
fact, they're using those allegations in
an attempt to gay up. And so, very
poignantly, just to let you guys know,
um just to kind of highlight these
messages that are on screen, Fed don't
openly said that he was going to try to
talk to Claire, um Black Griffin's
wife, gayop her and him, and spring
these allegations that he could not
source and say, "Admit that you sent
this minor a dickpick. Admit it. I can't
prove it, but admit it. Admit it right
now. Admit that you sent it
again. We You can't source that. There's
no sourcing of that information. He was
just going to do it. And then when it
didn't happen, he's like, "Ah, I'm going
to publish it anyways, though." Insane.
It's an insane line of logic. Like, it's
like, "Oh, here here it admits to this
thing that you didn't that you think
that you didn't do.
Again, I can't prove if Black Griffin is
not a groomer. I I got to make that very
clear. The evidence is inconclusive at
this time. There's some evidence that
leans towards it. There's evidence that
doesn't lean toward it. But like Beckett
said, it's not the quantity of evidence.
It needs to be the quality of it. And
right now, the quality is the
problem. Blackmail Black Griffin. And
that didn't work. They released them
anyway. And yes, I can already hear the
scratching in my comment section. But
Becket, Black Griffin is a
welldocumented groomer. I'm not saying
that Black Griffin isn't a groomer. I
don't know. Certainly, some of his
interactions are pretty [\h__\h] weird,
particularly the Deviant Art posts, but
when you look through allegations like
this, you need to have some kind of
smoking gun. I showed you screenshots
earlier of Grizzly the medic. In that
instance, you have Grizzly, a security
guard at Bronycon who tried to get a
12-year-old to come up to the hotel room
in DMs, acknowledging someone's age and
continuing to have explicit
conversations with them in their DMs.
While Gabe is weird, very, very weird,
this has apparently been going on for a
decade, and no one has a smoking gun.
And to be clear, this isn't just
internet stuff. Projects that Black
Griffin and his wife have worked on are
targeted. There is a massive public
campaign to Yeah, the Grizzly the Medic
[\h__\h] is wild. I will say this, but
again, part of the problem is is that
yes, Claire and Gabe have been targeted
for their business
connections. Again, it's not fully
provable, and that's part of the
problem. And Claire has openly said that
she's not groomed.
Have this guy removed from any project
that associates with him. All of which
is based on the schizophrenic ramblings
of Fandun. Now, originally this section
was much longer and way more pissed off.
I actually included Anthony Grimmolia
giving a defense of Lazy Bed Head just
to provide some kind of balance, but I
have since spoken to her at length both
about the Saber Spark allegations and
the wider story involving Black Griffin.
And as much of this section was directed
pointedly towards her, that feels a
little bit redundant at this point.
However, just because I've spoken to
Lazy doesn't mean I don't have massive
criticisms for this video. So, I just
want to run over them in a slightly
calmer, more chilled out tone. One of my
major issues, in fact probably my main
issue with this story is the fact that
nobody really vetted or checked anybody
before running things. For example,
Courtney Pete and by extension Lazy
Bedhead used Sophie Scrugs as an expert
on this community, but Scrugs is not a
passive observer. We'll get to her
section later, but all you need to know
for the moment is Brief Fandone is not
just one person. Sophie Scruggs has
access to that account and has regularly
posted from. Oh yes. As an aside, yes,
uh Sophie Scruggs has direct access to
the Brony Fan don't account. She has
posted typically she will post with a
slash s. Uh we did our research on it.
We found a bunch of posts with slash s
on it. Hyphen s. Yes. Yes. Sl means uh
sarcasm. Yeah. Um
at this point serious. Yeah. At this
point, outside of certain stories and
topics, like currently
himself, it's not farfetched to say that
Sophie endorses when
Bonk skits out a little bit. A little
bit, not too much because she did, to
Sophie's credit, she locked the account
down and Bonk currently does not have
access to it. This is all missed is
because the information Lazy Bedhead has
on Bony Fandone largely comes from the
gave defense documents. While Lazy
Bedhead, to her credit, does condemn
this information because Fandon is a
complete freak, she does post this
updated pinned comment stating that
Fandone has largely moved on from these
opinions they held when they were a
minor. That's not true, Lazy. Lazy would
explain to me that she posted and pinned
this comment due to the fact she was
getting push back from Fandone Defenders
and she largely just wanted them to shut
the [\h__\h] up. But to be clear, Fandone
has continued to defend his consumption
of pornography depicting
Lazy, that's not true.
because in a document that I have. Oh,
by the way, this is our our our show
doc. Uh, you want research? Here's our
show doc because
lazy. Uh, here's them as MLP.
Screwy. Uh, that's a technical foul.
This is Claire's statement when he tried
to gay op her.
Uh this is when he this is when Brony
Fan don't says [\h__\h] Claire completely
and says she's no longer a victim in his
eyes saying that it's
misinfo. I hid nothing. Claire's already
tried to make a hit piece on me and it
didn't do anything. Yes, it did because
we found it.
Uh this is Brody Fan don't saying that
Claire kicks
her. I mean, sorry that that Gabe kicks
Claire in some capacity. It's [\h__\h]
weird and showing penis. I don't give a
like again no proof. This is the gay
oping
attempt. Uh this is Brody Fando in
2024 defending the pedophile art. It was
not something when they were 13. They
only talked about it in March 31st. A
part of the great skitso I'm a god rant.
This is them in 20 I I know it's cut
off, but this is them in
2024 defending pony furry pedophilic
art. Bonk is Claire St. Stalker is an
apt way to say it. Again, Claire has
decided to defame me for posting
screenshots of things her husband has
done. Little ironic how you're adamant
about the relationship is gross when you
openly defend fullcon. You literally
defend grooming about fullcon. I don't
defend pedophilia. never done that,
which he doubles back on because he
doesn't want it. But then he will triple
down on it in March 31st of this year
with a long schizophrenic post that
would talk about his RP fame and the
fact that he truly truly truly loves
Fulcon. Uh this is our archive of the of
the tweets. With great power comes great
responsibility. He's [\h__\h]
schizophrenic. Uh Twitter pony summer of
20.
Where is my favorite tweet that he says?
Um, I was barely a teen. Small blip.
Equestria girls. Uh, he ran an NSFW
private Twitter on as a minor more than
I tweet in a year. Yeah, I know. Uh, he
says that he's been groomed in the past.
I don't necessarily doubt that. Um, it's
like Elon Musk levels of tweeting over
here. Yeah. Uh, where is it? Where is
it? Where is it? Where is it? Last last
Brony Con changed his life.
He felt like he was a like a god among
men, but he wasn't. Uh, co killed it.
Uh, where is where is the [\h__\h] tweet?
This is a whole [\h__\h] Twitter thread
we are not getting into. Um, oh, this is
the NSFW of Noel who is stereotypically
that game is of them in high school. So,
you can consider her anywhere from ages
14 to 17, 18, but it seems like it's the
first day of school. So possibly for
she's possibly a minor black Griffin. I
don't understand why this character was
not hurt by me. I can't believe I have
no secret past of pining for children or
public past of it like Griffin. That's
not necessarily true. Um oh my god,
debating if snouts are too far for
furries. Oh my god, he can't hurt Noel
and he's not attracted to He needs to
constantly say I'm not I listen I I
don't like animals and kids. I'm telling
you, I would never hurt them. Noel isn't
a person in my mind. I know she's
underage, but she's not a person. The
brony hates furries is crazy. I don't
den
remember this is a guy who started a
[\h__\h] roleplaying account as a minor
as a
10-year-old [\h__\h] fool with a
boyfriend who daged itself from 19 to 10
and then ran a Discord account which is
the character in My Little Pony and then
was like, "I was a god among men. They
worshiped me as I walked through the
bony cons. Everyone knew my name. Nobody
knows who he is. He is an insignificant
speck on this planet we call Earth. And
he is far more insignificant now than he
has ever been because remember
chat, that's a technical foul.
I'll have to teach you how to do it
someday. I'm pull my I haven't heard it
in a little bit. Yes, 16 and a lesbian.
So there is no direct age for Noel, but
again it's important to note because
it's here and I want to highlight this
because Cameron cameo from Cameron F305
does the same
thing in his
mind in Brony Fandone's mind he sees
Noel as a minor that's why he specifies
that he knows that it was made But Noel
is not a person. It's just a character.
His the age is not in his
brain. But he views Noel as a
minor. Maybe it's the same way that
Cameron
views/Jelly as a minor. But you know,
it's a theory, a game
theory. Underage furry characters. In
March of this year, Fando would post an
incredibly long skitso thread about
their history with the community, at the
end of which he includes these comments.
If no one is hurt, then it isn't an
issue. I can't hurt Noel and it doesn't
represent it's how he You have to
understand it's how he believes it.
Listen, I can make fun of Cameron all I
want. Again, I'm not going to the age
gap discourse. Uh very very clearly I'm
not fighting that one. Um but again,
it's how he views it. He knows it's
problematic but still indulges in it
because the character isn't real and he
would never hurt real kids. his
words. His
words as if anything it stems from my
own situation when I was a minor.
Psychology is complicated. I know what's
in my brain. I know I have no attraction
to children or animals. Noel is neither
to me in my head. An issue here is
simply that Lazy doesn't use Twitter and
therefore never caught this. This lack
of vetting isn't just me bitching. All
right. Uh this is a hot take. I think
Lazy is uh this is really poor.
Um I
I how do I want to say
this? If you are a content creator and
your videos are based on research and
analysis even of topics like this, and
you refuse to use a social media site,
which many people use for investigative
purposes, you should never be making a
video like this. If you're refusing it
because it's wokey [\h__\h] I I don't
know what to tell you. I'm progressive
and I use it because it's part of the
hobby. It's really not a smart to me.
That's not an excuse. That is um that is
being lazy um and performative at best.
That's just me. Again, this is nothing
against her personally as a human being.
But to me, that screams a lazy content
creator. About standards. It has quite
serious implications for these wider
stories. fan don't whether you like it
or not is at the center of these
allegations. His documents are the main
sources of them and when it comes to
Saber Spark he has been pushing to find
something on Saber Spark once again for
years. If the allegations you can see it
right here just pushing.
So this post is from 2024 but he's been
looking at everybody's post since 2022
because of
Wootmaster. We will get to who Woot
Master is and
chat will get there. It'll be a content
warning. Oh, we'll talk about something
on Sab once again. Four years. If the
allegations against Black Griffin are
true, Van's involvement is a major
disservice to any victim because now all
there's really required to deflect these
allegations is to point to the crazy
[\h__\h] who's been the driving
force behind them. Some people might say
that this position is dismissive. But
you have to keep in mind in a story like
this where there is no evidence for
anything, your currency is credibility.
The vast bulk of the evidence, quote
unquote, against these people is
bollocks. It simply doesn't hold up to
any reasonable level of scrutiny. All of
this is made worse by the fact that
you're not asking me or anybody else to
trust the victims. You're asking us to
trust people like Courtney Pete, KP,
Brony Fando, and Sophie Scruggs. All of
whom exist on a spectrum somewhere
between incredibly [\h__\h] stupid and
deeply malicious. In the conclusion of
her video, Lazy Bedhead says that she
doesn't actually like making videos like
this. Part of the reason being that
creators are waiting for the next big
expose for views and clicks and likes.
And despite everything, I do kind of
believe her. I don't view Lazy as
actually malicious. And part of the
reason for that is Anthony. Because as
he points out the nuances, I realized
what really annoyed me about this video
is the fact that she takes the destiny
allegations and the allegations from
another unnamed 13-year-old claiming
that Gabe also offered to send her a
dickpick, again with no evidence for
this, and treats him as gospel. She says
that this is evidence that Gabe is a
groomer. This shows us who he is. I
don't think she'd be dumb enough to do
that unless she genuinely believed that
to be the case. So for all my criticisms
of this video, again, I can just
maliciously going after these people. I
don't think it was. That question of
malice is a very interesting one. And
while many people, I think fairly,
believe that KP's primary motivation
comes from her petty grudges that she's
been clinging on to for over a decade.
This feels like a nice segue onto the
other group of people who seem to have
realized that KP is so blinded by her
own insane biases that she presented the
perfect vector to litigate their own
petty grievances. Let's talk about this
elusive Amy new. It's Amy new, chat,
wife of Peter. Who's Peter new? Well,
let's find out. Peter Molyneu. When I
first introduced her to you, I said she
was just somebody's wife. And while that
sounds flippant, it's actually a very
good description because Amy's claim to
fame is being married to Peteru, the
voice of Big Macintosh. For those of you
who have no idea who I deeply envy you,
but he's basically a main secondary
character from MLP. So, if you're
wondering why Amy scuttled away so
quickly, it's probably because being
involved in leveling unsubstantiated
rape allegations against somebody might
not be the best look publicly, but Amy
has known and been involved with this
group of people for over a decade. And
while I'm not quite clear on the
mechanics of how this worked, she was
certainly one of the people handing over
Emily to KP for this expose. Now
remember, Amy was a part of bringing
forward the first allegations for Black
Griffin from what we
understand and then bringing
Emily to
KP. Why it matters. Now, I didn't reach
out to Amy personally, but Angry Slug
did, and I was quite interested in what
she had to say. So, I asked Slug for a
copy of those DMs. Now, there's nothing
in here that's particularly interesting,
but it's not too crazy. She just didn't
want to be involved. Um, she's just
scared cuz there's some kind of barrier.
Um, she's just more scared asking about
the person at the center of it. Um, I
don't really She doesn't want to be
involved. She's uh she's pretty pissed
at her. Go [\h__\h] off and die. I don't
care. You lit literally like you
platformed and you harassed people.
That's on you, too. But it does confirm
her involvement and the fact that she is
very much trying to push the blame onto
KP. And from the DMs with Fandon, it
seems very clear that they were also
very much in contact. You'll also see
later that Amy and Sophie Scruggs seem
to have a pretty good relationship. So
the idea that she was just a passive
bystander concerned and ironically it's
this she's not a passive bystander
friend. So let's let's uh we could talk
about a little bit about Amy new real
quick. Let me pull this
out. Do I have any do we have stuff on?
So, uh, stuff on Amy New is pretty much
just, um, this is March 21, uh, 2nd on
Amy New. There's other stuff that Becket
has in his video, but this is this is
pointing to the fact that she was
actively involved constantly uh, in and
around the Brony Fandone account, uh, at
least as far back as 20 as March of this
year, if not a little bit sooner,
because she has been outspoken uh,
against Gabe and Claire's relationship
according to people.
So this is Amy new. He would never send
unsolicited sexual pictures to fans.
Weird face because this is about the
Destiny doodle stuff. Damn, it's a
bottomless barrel with this creep. Holy
[\h__\h] I remember seeing this back and
thinking it was weird. She even says in
the thread it's not something she would
do normally, but since it was
Gabe Yeah. Yep.
is absurd. As a final late edition,
right before publication, I was made
aware of one other bit of correspondence
with Amy because Mr. Enter would Cheers
to Mr. Enter for getting to talk to Amy.
Uh, this is her saying that she's known
about the allegations since the 25th,
but it's weird because in private,
apparently Amy's known about these
allegations for years. So, which is it?
Amy, you lying [\h__\h] also reach out to
Amy and she'd give the statement that
she found out about this on the 25th of
March, which would mean timeline wise
Amy was told about this immediately gave
the information to Fango. Yes. Yes. Who
immediately passed it on to KP. Now,
this is all a little bit weird for a
couple of reasons. Firstly, Amy would
come out in support of the statement
from Emmy on Twitter. Weird. Mhm. You've
known this person for 10 plus years, but
you only but you told Mr. Enter later
that you only knew since the 25th. Hi,
you lying [\h__\h] I wonder what the [\h__\h]
you've been saying.
I don't
know, Amy. You be lying.
Saying that they've been friends for
over a decade and that she was at
Cantalot Gardens confirming that she had
seen Emmy and Saber Spark. Weird. She
was there. Was she in the room where it
happened? Was she in the room where it
happened? Was she watching the rape
together? The statement of I have
nothing to gain from this. I just want
my friend to be I listen, I don't like
her. I don't care. Also complete
insanity considering Amy. It's it's an
insane thing to say because she's lying
to people. It's just like Yeah. Is she
Is her whole shtick really that she's
married to a a B tier voice actor on a
Yes. Yes. on a girl's television
television cartoon show? Yes. That's all
you are. [\h__\h] off. Get out of here. Why
Why do I care about what you're saying?
You are laundering people, Chad. I'm
going to go grab food. You're laundering
people's allegations.
For what reason? To attack somebody,
which is okay. Sure. But you're
laundering allegations without vetting
them, without looking into them. That is
actually
[\h__\h] Wider involvement in this. Once
again, to say nothing of the validity of
Emily's accusations, Amy presents
herself like she's not involved and knew
nothing about this before publication.
Or alternatively, this could also be
read as though it was a rumor that had
been going around for years that was
finally being outed. And I'm sure some
version of the truth exists within all
this obfiscation, but these people are
just so [\h__\h] manipulative. One thing
about this story, which I find pretty
amusing, though overall quite
frustrating, is that the side that's so
concerned about transparency have all
refused to speak to anyone the minute
things got difficult for them. Now, this
presents a bit of a problem. I don't
know people like Amy. All I've got to go
on is fragments of information. But to
be clear, just because they won't speak
to me doesn't mean nobody
did. This part's actually crazy. Fudrey,
if you're talking, you're muted. But
this part's actually crazy.
They also have to find my pizza now, but
that's a different story for a different
day. Wait, they lost your pizza? I think
they put at the wrong door. I got to
look. Okay, well, you can go here. You
could do that. We could talk about
Halloween. Hello. Hello. This person
just kept sending hello to me. I'm
outside. Okay. Did you take a picture of
where you put it,
though? Hold up. Go outside. Go get your
pizza. We're here. Yeah. Go get your
pizza. Okay. Uh, Greg, Greg, what is
your opinion? I don't like Jamie Curtis.
Like I like Jamie Le Curtis. I think she
made me buy she made me buy an 18 pack
Nibia. She can sell it. I want to see
her in the One Piece show. I I don't I I
don't know why, but I would see her in
in uh
Borderlands. I I liked her in in
Everything Everywhere All at Once. I I
freaky Friday. [\h__\h] good. everything
over all freaky or Friday
I think like in the recent Halloween
trilogy I feel like her character got
[\h__\h] sidelined so [\h__\h] harshly
yeah I she's like not even she's like
bar like not even there in the second
one and she gets like sideline and like
Halloween ends I'm just like this is
about her why are you guys doing this I
think there's a good point or a good
like maybe not a video essay but like a
comparison of like the original
Halloween series versus like the
Halloween plus H2O series and then the
the this Neo
uh quadrology with with you know what I
mean like just to see what like the
comparisons in between the uh the
different versions so to speak like like
the uh this new trilogy has
this they're all done by the same guy if
right or they're all by the same guy uh
Halloween kills and ends are all done by
the same guy I I cannot uh I cannot for
the life of me remember the titles of
any of these, but yeah, but but um I I
feel
like I feel like that kind of has like
some standing power more so than just
six to seven like kind of loosely
connected movies in a sense like and and
for that cuz like f five okay three
which is a completely different story
cuz they were going three is good
regardless of like in spite of it not
being associated but four, five, and six
like Jame like her character is not in
it. It's about like like another like
other characters if I remember
correctly. It's been a while since I've
seen
four but then H2O she comes back and and
they disregard all the other H2O. I like
H2O but then they kill her off in
resurrection which I'm just like at the
very beginning I'm like oh this is
[\h__\h] Mhm. I'm I'm surprised it was
easy for for people to just like accept
the the new movies because people just
didn't watch the other ones or they're
like, "Oh, who cares?"
Go ahead. Go right. No, no. Sorry. It's
just like continuity is such a big thing
with like Marvel shows nowadays that
it's it's it's so weird to just be like
here's a here's a 40-year-old franchise
that we are reinvigorating by getting
rid of every other movie in the
franchise. Yeah. I was going to say uh
Flatzilla I do like uh the next
generation. I find hard to get I find
the first season a bit slow and hard to
get into but like once you get past the
first season it's it it I I find it a
lot more enjoyable. Yeah. I I've started
Next Generation a couple times on like
Netflix and I it's just slow and I never
picked it up but I'm sure once I get
past that first season it would like
kick off for me. I just I just haven't
gotten around to it. I did start OG Star
Trek like that first season. That's
pretty baller. Like cuz it's like how do
how do you make this in the 60s in the
50s or whatever. That's the one thing my
dad told me like the reason like Star
Trek was so popular back then is because
a lot of TV was just really [\h__\h]
terrible and dog [\h__\h] Like Star Trek
was like one of the good shows around
when he was growing up as a kid.
What you think? What you say? I'm sorry.
Oh no. I forgot what I was going to say.
I'm sorry man.
But I was going to say like another
element they brought into like the
Halloween series was like the the the
cult which I believe was a big thing in
six because it was implied the girl from
five was impregnated
by Mike in the sixth one and died I
believe. It's been a while since I read
and watched it but I think that's the
implication. Or she had a kid and then
they cursed the child. Uhhuh. I would
have to rewatch it because it's been
like a long ass time. Did you watch
Hellraiser?
I have I've haven't watched all of them.
I watched the first three and then I
watched the newest one. I drew like the
newest one. I like the newest one. It's
weird. They it's it's kind of unexpected
and like you you're kind of aware of the
rules and the rules are pretty much the
same as as the original ones. And it's
it's kind of a sequel remake, but it
doesn't really matter like the like the
uh the uh uh the [\h__\h] whatever the
hell raisers are called. What are they
called? They're called something. But um
yeah, the Xenobytes. Cenobytes. Uh it's
like they they don't it doesn't matter
like continuity wise. They're always
going to like [\h__\h] up somebody's whole
day and life and world. It's it's it's
bizarre. It's it's they're
they're interesting. They're interesting
to watch and interesting to see like all
the [\h__\h] that they'll like it's almost
like saw traps but like self-inflicted.
You know what I mean? Like where it's
like like you deserve this. The all the
scenified stuff is like um a curse a a
curse a gift and a curse wrapped up in
one. But you you know it's still a
choice. You get to make your choice.
Yeah. I think that I can't remember
which one it was, but um the main female
character from Hellraiser Run does come
back in a later Hellraiser
and there is like that sort of element
with like someone I don't want to spoil
like someone in her life that has that
their comeuppance and like her
relationship to that. This this is I
remember just it's been a while. I
remember this like weird sexual tension
between Pin Head and her during that
movie. I'm like,
h I I really like
um Hellraiser 2. Yeah, I is that that's
like the girlfriend from one comes back
if I remember correct. Yes, I saw one
and two back to back recently and uh
Puppet Master, huh? Um I saw one and two
recently back toback. I probably want to
watch them again just to get another
feel for him, but two's very
interesting. There's a lot of like they
introduce a lot of things in uh puppet
master good that one doesn't have.
There's like eight puppet masters or
something. There's like six of them.
That's crazy. I think my friend showed
me the first two. I when I Okay, so
small lore thing. When I watched
Hellraiser 1, it like traumatized me as
a child. It's pretty traumatizing. That
guy as an adult, I can see a lot of the
effects with them. Like, oh, okay. I
don't know why this scared me as a child
because I see behind the mirror a little
bit cuz I can see these things but as a
child I'm like, "Oh, that hand that
guy's hand getting like destroyed by a
nail. Oh, this is horrifying." Clive
Barker, if you ever want like really
crazy [\h__\h] out there horror, anything
Clive Barker has ever written or worked
on or he's done a ton of comic books.
He's done a ton of uh like novels, light
novels, short novels, whatever you want
to call them. Um uh short stories. He's
he he's got a ton of [\h__\h] that like is
just [\h__\h] bizarre and deals with like
abstract and abnormal. It's amazing.
Have you read his uh sequel to The
Hellbound Heart? I believe that got like
released like not that long ago. I have
not. It's really good. It's been It's
been like a hot minute since I read it,
but I really liked it.
Like he I have the thing is like Cly has
like a fantastic ride, but I have not
read a lot of his work. It's just one of
those things that you get you
accidentally gloss over. Yeah. What you
like pick up.
But like his other film, Night Breed, is
really good. I really like that one. Has
David Croninberg is a actor. Another
Yeah. Oh, [\h__\h] David Croninberg
movies are fantastic. I'm trying to
think of a He acted in Jason X.
Trying to think of any good horror
series also that I've watched. Maybe not
series. I really like Ari films. Um, I
haven't seen Bose Afraid. I really need
to. I know it's not a horror film, but
that's like the one that I It's been on
my list for years now. I've heard mixed
things about Bose. I've heard I've heard
mixed things, but but they gave him a
blank check, and I want to see weirdo
directors do whatever the [\h__\h] they want
with a blank check, and that's what I
want to see. I mean, yeah, it's kind of
like with the Death Stranding with like
that's literally the Death Stranding the
movie, the first Strand type
film. He's for the Madonna for the main
guy becomes a monster. Oh, okay.
Interesting.
Um, I breed. Yeah. Evil Dead. Yeah.
Yeah. It's on my list. I've seen the the
Were they good parents while I was away?
Did you find your pizza? Oh, no. My I
think I turned my thing on.
Turn your thing on. What do you mean?
So, this person can't find my
apartment and I'm trying to message them
and trying to assist them and I'm pretty
sure they just went off with the food.
All right, time to reorder. I don't even
want to reorder. I'm like annoyed at
this point. Like, cuz the place I order
the place I order from is closed. Yeah.
Did they steal your food because they
stole mine? Yeah, it's Yeah, it's lost
pizza, actually. It's actually really
really Well, just make sure you get you
you charge back or whatever. Uh yeah,
I'm about I'm about to like be like,
"Hey, like this is ridiculous." Go take
care of that. I was going to ask Greg.
I'm fine. Greg, have you watched uh the
the quiet uh A Quiet Place that series
yet? I saw the first one. I haven't seen
the second one. First one's fine. Um I I
I just like uh I just missed the second
one when it came out. And then I hear
the prequel is pretty decent. No, the
the the the shocking thing is the pre
prequel is way better than it should be.
Yeah, that's that's exactly what I
watched. I'm like, "Oh my god, this is
fantastic." Like, I didn't expect it.
Mhm. Everything's fresh because you got
to you have to learn or the characters
have to learn the rules again. No, I I
think it's less about that and it's more
like I like the characters that like are
in the story. Mhm. Like sometimes like a
um like for me like a movie can be kind
of saved if the like the characters
within it are good. I there's like
different tent poles of of uh
storytelling or films that like people
get uh um not attracted to but and
thanks to the excellent work of just uh
shout out to
night's ruined. No pizza. No pizza.
Okay, let's go. Like Amy, all I've got
to go on is fragments of information.
But to be clear, just because they won't
speak to me doesn't mean nobody did. And
thanks to the excellent work. Hey, it's
me, guys. You got interviews. It was me.
It was me all along, chat. It was me.
Yeah, I just emailed people. It was very
simple.
It's me.
Yay. Me. We did it, chat. We found an
email. Shout out half the team doing
doing Cameron stuff and half the team
doing well that's true that we were we
were working at half mass saber spark we
had this was this the past two weeks
have been [\h__\h] busy yeah we were 100%
working at like half
capacity where's my previous orders okay
was not complete oh we can go back to
the after his response video I was put
in touch with Saber Spark now that
conversation I had with Saber Spark is
unfortunately off the record. He doesn't
feel comfortable at the moment coming
out and making random public statements.
And I'll be honest, I do respect that
decision. However, I still need to know
about these people. And from the other
side, I accept the criticism of it would
be nice to hear from people. So, please
allow me to solve that problem for you
because I sat down to have a
conversation with the voice actress of
Sweetie Bell from My Little Pony, the
wife of Thoughts on the video. You mean
this video?
Not your dad. Do you mean this video?
Thoughts on the video? Uh, that that
Becket guy seems really cool.
in British. In British I can't Okay, I
can't give an impartial thoughts. We
helped with the research of this video.
Um I don't think
anybody Yeah, I can't necess we're
friends with Becket and like I I worked
hand in hand in this video so I can't
necessarily be totally impartial. You're
in some of these interviews. Yeah, I'm
in the interview. So
I mean I mean you're there. Let's go on
the video. It's a masterpiece.
Subscribe. Yeah, you should subscribe to
the OP block and not to Copen C.
The Civil War is starting now.
You should follow all of his people to
us. That's what he should do. No, I'm
kidding. No, you know that that Becket
guy seems really nice. Becca Becket is
great. Uh that that Jenny ma'am. Uh real
cool.
IQ. Uh, can we start with a What's up?
IQ. IQ. We're talking about horror
movies and then we have to
stop talking about horror movies.
Don't worry. Next uh next time we pause,
I'm going to talk about airplanes. Oh,
in the night sky like shooting stars.
You could really use a wish right now.
Oh, wish right now. Wish. Wish right
now. Wish right now. Um, also deals with
a pony. Yeah,
I I love the they did for her. Oh, I
thought it was good. Subbed. Oh, Saber
innocent. I
listen. It's It's People have to reveal.
If if Emmy has evidence, she needs to
reveal it now. Um, it's just evidence.
It's just point blank. She needs to
reveal it.
Yeah. Where's the evidence? Yeah. It's
like, where is the dead? Hey, tell me
about Amy and why she is in why the wife
of the voice actor for Big Macintosh is
somehow involved in attacking your sort
of I guess circle. Um, all right. I will
tell you all the things that I know
about her. Um, I
know I'm like I don't know. I'm hesitant
to say things, but at the same time, I
feel like I've been so polite and nice
for so long that I just I think I don't
feel like being polite and nice anymore.
So, there there's my grain of salt
before I say what I'm going to say. Uh,
Claire is very cool. Uh, I'm gonna be
like I'm gonna be like point blank be
honest, Claire. Very
cool. Am I biased? Probably if I'm not
being like kind of You can be biased.
I'll be biased, but I'll be honest. Talk
to her. So, yeah. I like biased but
impartial. Yeah. Being Yeah. Being
biased inherently is not bad if if you
are actively saying that you're not
biased. Like everyone's biased. Like you
can't say you are unbiased in a lot of
situations. Whoa.
The last time they stole my food, I just
about Liam Niss and taken that bandon
head. So take this towards the feed soy
fund. Orange heart emoji. Waw wa's open.
Wawa is open. Wawa is open. I' I've
currently reported it missing because
it's it's I I have made the multiple
attempts. I like it says like they
messaged me 19 minutes ago and I'm like
that's not that's not true. Like they
just said hello. They're like oh we're
at your door. I'm like no you're not.
And then they're like, "Cuz my I have
like door I have Please don't answer."
Um and they're like,
"Okay, report it missing because you
have my
food." Okay.
Um I don't know where the switch was
with Amy. Um, I don't know if my own
father has talked to either of them, but
I do know that my dad has reached out to
people that I've worked with and warned
them about me when I had told my parents
that, you know, I was I was in a
relationship um with Gabe. And um, this
is when I was almost 20. Um, I don't
know when the swap or switch was for
Amy. Um, I had met her a few times
before. I knew she was married um, to
Peter New. I think I I can't remember a
whole lot about her. Um, but I I don't
know. I don't know. She's like kind of
mixed up in the fan world and she came
first as a fan from to my knowledge. She
was a fan first and then she just kind
of started dating Peter and I was like,
"Oh, that's interesting." And um she
yeah was kind of like a fan of My Little
Pony and a fan of Peter and then started
dating and I was like, "Oh, okay." And
you know, I didn't really think much of
it at the time. I didn't really care. As
an adult looking back on that situation,
oh, I also know that I I'm pretty sure
that Amy has like publicly stated before
at some point that she was just like
really concerned for me because she had
kind of uh Do you think Mr. Enter will
have anything when his video on the
topic comes out? I mean, I don't know
Enter personally, so I can't really
speak to
um I can't really speak to the quality
of his video if it'll it'll be any good,
but you know, I'm I'm willing to see it.
He also made a video about the topic
in the process of making one. I don't
want to
like Yeah, I don't want to be
presumptive about it. I was making one
and I was smart and I was, you know, in
love and I knew what that was like and I
just feel really bad for her and I'm
like, why do people freaking keep saying
this about me? like I'm some idiot that
and this is the thing too like even if I
if I get So here's the thing uh speaking
of Claire uh I I can't speak to
everything that wasn't on record
obviously or not I mean there's some
things not featured in this call that
that are on that may potentially you
know if it's discussed um but like I
think the interviews stand for
themselves answer the questions very
appropriately and
honestly Claire
does in my interpretation
Claire does not like that the internet
and the fandom at large has made her
feel like an infant since she was 11.
Now she is 25 and she is still facing
those same
problems. Uh the YouTube is really
unhinged about Claire being groomed even
though she's saying she's not. Yeah, I
know. I like like here here's the
like the truth of the matter is is that
they heard it from the horse's mouth, no
pun intended, and they literally don't
care. Yeah. Uh the Redditor is going to
Redditor. Yeah, guys, we're four super
chats away from feeding the dog one more
time. Frustrated about it. People are
like, "Oh, I understand that you're so
angry. Like, you're a very like, you
know, it doesn't mean that you're
stupid. You can be a smart person and
get in a situation like that." I'm like,
"Yeah, and I freaking know what that's
like because that was my family
situation." And I hate it when people It
could still feel weird. I completely
agree. And yeah, to be frank, we all
said I I and to Becket in my my credit,
we did say this to her. Um that like
people are going to feel weird. I feel
slightly weird about it, but that
doesn't mean I want them to. I mean, but
at the end of the day, it's not like I
want them to break up. And if the
evidence is not there, the evidence nor
can you force them to. And nor should
anyone expect that out of this. Yeah,
100%.
say that to me as if I don't know what
that's like and one day I'll figure it
out. One day I'll figure out that I've
been groomed and I'm sitting here like
nobody knows that I've basically already
been through this. You know, we talk
about people talk about grooming in this
nonsexual way, which is so funny cuz I'm
like, why the freak would I be groomed
nonsexually into a marriage? What's the
marriage for? Shaking hands? Like what
the hell? It just doesn't make any
sense. But I and I Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Shaking hands before
marriage. Holy crap. It's like I'm the
only one in this chat that loves Leia. I
got to Thanos this up. Fine, I'll do it
myself. You could have for that same
amount, you could have done two
two super chats and then we would have
been even that much closer. That's wild
to say out loud. I hesitate to use the
word groomed just because I hate it so
much at this point. But I have had a lot
of conditioning for other things in my
life that once I became 18 and realized
and gave myself some authority in my own
life. So, here's what I could say to
this. Uh, uh, it'll kind of get delved
into the video a little bit more proper.
Claire is a child actor and from a
family of voice actors. Now, I know that
that feels like it's weird, but it it
does play a role. Like, it's it's such a
weird thing to say. It does clear. Oh,
God. Not the 15.
Fine. Greg, are you happy now? Yes.
Thank you. I I will be happy. I am very
happy. You did. I'm Q. I'm proud of you.
You did your job. No, I'm kidding. Okay,
you didn't have to. But like you have
primed the well chat only two more. But
that is the thing like like Claire was
primed to be
a was primed to be a voice actress from
a very young age. It is bizarre. Like I
hate to say it, it is bizarre. Oh, I'm
not going to do this just because this
person says so. Just because this person
is in my family and is telling me blah
blah blah doesn't mean that I have to do
that anymore. And so anyway, to make a
long story short, thank you. Who's going
to be the hero? There are I think it's
really funny that Amy is somebody who is
saying this kind of stuff. She wouldn't
know. She wouldn't know. Started off
very I feel bad for her vibes. And then
immediately you're danger, you know, and
I'm paraphrasing here, but that is the
the vibe that is being directed towards
me now. And I think that's also really
considering Peter New is somebody who
has said Peter Peter New got a case. Why
is he
around? Let's hear that again. towards
me now. And I think that's also really
funny considering Peter New is somebody
who has said inappropriate things about
Newage and that is just laughable. He
lost it when he lost the pizza. Oh no.
Peter new got a case. So I I will say
this. The one time I encourage him
singing. Thank you. No, I will. I will.
I will. Yeah.
Uh uh I will say this. I I haven't fully
looked into Peter News stuff. Um I know
he's off Twitter. Uh feed my daughter
now.
You heard Cloudy.
It's time. Get the feeding dog
feeder. It's time to give her treats.
It's time to feed that dog
now on the uplock stream tonight. Yes.
chat. One more time we feed that. Is
this Is this the most goals we've had?
No. We've almost hit 30 once. Wow. All
right.
There you go, girl. Yeah, her eyes did
fly open. I know. I know.
It's time to feed the
poppers. Could someone explain the Peter
New stuff?
I It's an allegation. I haven't looked
into it fully in vetted, but it's it's
what Claire says. Claire claims that
Peter knew was inappropriate around
minors. I can't say any more than
that and specifically young girls.
Yeah. And I feel like every single
person who is the most like loudly
outspoken people about this situation
are people who've got their own weird
freaking skeletons. And I just sit here
and I'm like, surely people can't
believe this. Surely people have a
brain, but apparently not because now
we're in the situation that we're in
now. And it just it it boggles my mind
and it just makes me roll my eyes quite
frankly. Talking with Cla was pretty
illuminating. I can almost understand
why no one's been interested in hearing
her side in all this because it must be
pretty bloody difficult to run a story
about somebody being a groomer when
their primary victim, quote unquote,
won't go. And and Claire, to her credit,
does not see herself as a victim. like
it's so difficult because this was this
was one of the the inherent fears you
have when running something like this
um is do you think you're going too far
by platforming like people uh and with
Claire and Michelle I don't think so I
stand by these um I stand by these uh
interviews wholeheartedly um I worked
with with Beckett to kind of identify
like what was what I felt uh knowing a
lot of the lore, uh, like what I felt
was the most important things and we
kind of like went from there. Um, and we
we tag teamed it and we kind of got to
like kind of the meat and potatoes of
what was you know allowing them to speak
but also you know kind of knowing
what you know what people probably also
wanted to hear. They that Claire and
Michelle were very very open and very
aware like you just asked them how did
you feel about ex person and they go off
just went off because they've had time
to think about this because they've been
harassed for years about this far before
Bronny Fandone ever came into the
picture along with your narrative. But
when you start picking apart the
eccentricities of these relationships,
it becomes a hell of a lot harder to
treat the people leveling these
accusations as just passive observers
concerned for victims. No wonder so many
people want to remain anonymous. They're
not just random people from the
internet. They're people with large
public profiles in the community. I was
astonished to find that people had
either outright ignored Cla's public
statements on the situation or actively
attacked her as somehow complicit. This
is also the case for Michelle, who
played Apple Bloom on the show, whose
long-term friendship with Gabe is the
origin point of these rumors. And once
again, because I can hear that
scratching, I don't know the truth
behind the Black Griffin allegations,
and neither do you. But when I said
earlier that many people do not care
about victims in this story, yes, this
is what I mean. Because hypothetically,
let's say this mob is correct about
Black Griffin, that would mean his two
primary victims, quote,
[Music]
yeah, Leila Bug, I agree. It's so
infantilizing to force victimhood on
someone. Yeah. Have been relentlessly
attacked alongside him. And the reason
for this is obvious. The people leveling
these accusations don't care. Has Gabe
said anything about the situation since
he's been accused of this.
Um, it comes up in this video. Full
disclosure, uh, it was requested that
Gabe would not speak. He offered. Uh,
both Becca and I declined. Uh, it was
something that I was always going to, it
was something that we were always going
to decline anyways. Uh, just because of
the nature of said story. Um, but he was
willing to speak up. Take that as what
you will. As some people will say, "Oh,
he's just violently coming to his
defense because somebody will listen.
You could say up a whole bunch of
different things. I I can't speak to it.
Um but again, like deciding like Laya
Bug's about to say, but deciding even if
they were victims, let them decide that.
But like that's the thing. It's like
deciding these people are victims when
Michelle is not in a relationship with
Gabe and is there is [\h__\h] Claire's
best friend is part of the problem. Care
about victims. Their motivations are
entirely self-interested. Which brings
us rather nicely to Sophie Scrugs.
Because, as I mentioned before, Brony
Fandom isn't a one-man band. The other
half of this little duo has seemingly
been pushing these allegations longer
than Bonk has. She has been going at
them since 2020. And and she and she
partnered up with somebody who recently
was on top of it, at least from 2023,
maybe 2022, 2021. I can't I I it's hard
to find it. Her case. It's almost more
bizarre because she's not a random
member of All right. So, this is Sophie
Scruggs. I'm about to do something very
[\h__\h] mean.
I'm
pretty to make me get it. Nope. I got
it. For
you,
chat. I'm going to be
honest. Let me see. Can I open this
image in a new tab?
Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Uh, I'm going
to pre-disaval.
So, there's a
Sophie. I don't know. It's kind of a one
to one resemblance. I'm not going to
lie. J Frog. I have a better one. I have
a better one. Give me Give me two
seconds. I don't know. Michigan J
Bullfrog. I don't know. One to one
resemblance. No. Look at this one. This
one.
Tell me I'm your
own. What? What is
yours? Oh god, this is going to hurt
me. Oh yeah.
the bullfrog with hair.
I don't know,
chat. Listen, I'm not so nice when I see
like this lady literally [\h__\h] just
harassing people on the internet and
hiding behind a dude that was going to
just off himself fakey. Yeah, the
Michigan J Bullfrog. That's literally
literally it's an insult to
bullfrog this community. I'm going to
hell. This [\h__\h] girl is going to
write me in her [\h__\h] manifesto
though, being like, "I can't believe
they said this about me. I drew on My
Little Pony."
As long as you don't read it on on
stream, you should be fine. Yeah. Well,
I
mean, you have the most accurate check.
What does that mean, Pi? Pi, what does
that mean? Listen, I don't care. Like,
I'm tired of being nice to people. I
like I'm starting to become evil again.
Don't become evil. Oh, yes.
I know. I know. I know. She does kind of
look like Frogan a little bit. No, no. I
I'll say she looks Frogan looks more
attractive than her. Yeah, I about to
say it. I'll say it. I will say it. I
don't like Frogan, but lord do I not
care.
Does not look like Frogan in my personal
professional facial reconstruction
opinion. She was an official artist for
the My Little Pony comics. Um, my name
is Sophie Scruggs. That's S O P H I E A
S C R U G G-S. So, if you want to look
me up on Twitter, Sophie Ace, I do know
that she kind of spearheaded a lot of
the allegations towards Gabe, um, and
worked with, you know, Ronnie Fandone,
whatever, um, to kind of, you know,
create this wall of, uh, saying like
we're the we're the ones holding, you
know, this together, this this case, and
trying to bring the information to the
light. And, you know, she's trying to
say like, you know, we need to do this.
It's like a crusade. Um, I mean, it's
even in her banner or her title for her
Twitter, like I believe Destiny. You
know, she's very much involved even
though she likes to have this idea that
she's like, I'm not involved. You know,
my opinion, me speaking on that, is I
think it's pretty messed up of Sophie to
let a mentally ill person take the fall
for her crusade. Yeah, Sophie has been
obsessed with the Black Griffin story
for so long, it is actually difficult to
find an origin point of how this all
began. But I have heard a couple of
theories. The first is some nondescript.
I'm sorry, I cannot see her as Michigan
J Bullfrog. I'm going to
hell. Oh boy. Traumatic event. They also
straight up use Sophie's trauma and
mental illness to discredit them. Sophie
seems to be suffering a lot of her own
trauma.
Rogan is just yasifi. Sophie seemed to
be suffering from a lot of her own
trauma which made it incredibly
difficult to deal with. But she often
spreads misinformation to have more
PTSD. I don't give a [\h__\h] Have a
thousand PTSD. I hope you get 2500 more
cases of PTSD. That's an insane
statement. What an insane statement. She
has PTSD, so she's going to spread
misinformation all the time,
which must be incredibly tough to deal
with. But she often spreads
misinformation, even if unintentional.
And far from how this is being painted
by Lazy, this is Sophie's own
explanation for her behavior. However,
if it helps, I actually It's her own
explanation.
So she says, but chat, what if I told
you there's a different explanation of
why Sophie hates Gabe?
What could it possibly be? I wonder what
it could be. Don't believe this is true.
I think the explanation is far more
simple. Sophie was massively jealous of
Gabe. And again, that seems to be
shockingly common. Black Griffin moved
from being a fan of the show to working
on it. And this crops up again and
again. A former conchair told me that.
So this is Courtney Pete's video on
Black Griffin. I have watched this video
like three, four times now.
Very interesting. jealous they are of
Gabe. Reason why Gabe was always at
stuff as a special guest is um if you
wanted to invite for Apple Bloom, um
Mon'nique would basically require to
also invite Gabe, they would quote
unquote throw him in for free. See what
I mean? Like the mother keeps pushing
the two of them together. So that's
Courtney in the corner. Let's make
something very clear. Michelle's
mother is the person who was the manager
for both Gabe and Michelle.
Is it the Mon'nique that Yes. Okay. They
were a package deal because Gabe was
living with them and aiding Michelle in
her music career.
Interestingly enough, the minor that
Gabe would have had direct access to is
allegedly the one he did not
groom. Just to put that into
perspective, the one they think he
groomed into being his adult bride is
not the one he lived with. Well, you you
know what this means, Fouchy, that he's
like way more devious. He's like, "Oh,
Uno reverse card. I'm not gonna groom
the the minor. You think I'm gonna groom
this other minor. Ash is saying black
Griffin does not [\h__\h] where he eats.
That's what Ash is saying. You're right.
Okay, go off,
Ash. Gabe is Black Griffin. Why?
Uh, Ahsoka, just as a correction point,
it is not Michelle, it is Claire. Yeah.
And uh so it basically like they would
in order to have her for example if you
wanted all of the mark crusaders you
have to have Gabe basically. Um and
that's kind of how he ingrated himself
into the guest of honor spot even though
he didn't really do a whole lot to earn
a guest of honor spot. He did some
background vocals. He worked on the
show. He was a voice actor on the show.
You sound incredibly jealous right now.
On a few episodes and that's it. And to
clarify too, um, so how it worked in the
pony. Um, uh, KP, shut the [\h__\h] up, you
[\h__\h] [\h__\h] So show that. So you
know, you know, you know, I don't
disavow. Don't disavow. Misogyn gaping
hole. Oh god, I'm dying. Oh god, I'm
hangry. That's That's an assaulted
gaming. Chat, I'm I'm hangry. I'm
hangry. You say Snickers. I disavow
myself.
Take care, chat. I'm very hungry. Go get
like make yourself a sandwich. I don't
have uh I don't have any groceries in
the house right now. You don't How do
you not have He never has groceries. He
He goes from from home to work and comes
back and then he orders take out. You
have like any like crackers or like
bread or like He has dog biscuits. We
have dog biscuits. He's dog food. He has
on stream. He'll do it again. Chat, if
you dono magenta, he will eat another.
Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. You have to
donate like super magenta. And then
there'd be people like me and Sophie.
Why? What do you What do you have
against [\h__\h] I am a [\h__\h] People
that would just act in the fandom space
and Gabe was usually the only exception
to that for reason. Clips like this are
mindbending. You literally start the
conversation by explaining how he moved
to doing background vocals on the show,
therefore meeting the criteria of guest
of honor and then lament that he didn't
really earn it. And these [\h__\h] people
are still bitching about this in current
day. When Momocon heard about KP making
the DA Games video, they removed her
from the guest list. KP would then cry
about this to Bonk, asking him whether
he could get people to vouch for her so
she could get back in. And isn't it
interesting that all these stories are
unattributable to random former cont.
It's all somebody told me or I heard
this once. But realistically, that's all
it ever can be because people like
Sophie and KP weren't really on the
inside of any of these groups. KP
basically survived off the kindness of
Henry's now wife Casey. And while Sophie
was official tweets from Sophie Scruggs,
um, so if we go to the Sophie Scruggs
part, uh, so this is Sophie Scruggs.
Sophie Scruggs is an is an artist online
who had worked on uh some of the the MLP
stuff. This is uh some of her uh this is
her public LinkedIn uh about it. Uh her
tweets, special tweets she's made over
time. Bonk, do not hurt yourself. I wish
they did. Uh again, more stuff about it.
Uh no one believes me, my guy. This is
in
February. Uh so nobody believes that my
guy Fanote was doxed a few months ago.
Fando was not doxed by Claire and Gabe,
which he likes to say he
was. Where can I find this dock, dear
sir? It's
proprietary. Um, this is her discussing
uh the Destiny doodle stuff in February.
Uh, talking about Brony Fan don't,
talking about believe all victims. As
you can see, it is I believe Destiny.
Pass it on chat. very like like Sophie
Scrugs and and and the streamer Destiny
are just like this.
Eat the Destiny. Eat the Destiny.
I'm a [\h__\h]
[\h__\h] This is all about Sophie Scrug
stuff. This is comments she's made in
the video. I don't need to pull that up.
This is some of the screenshots that
they've used in the video. Um this stuff
was some of the Billy Bustup documents.
So this is her like talking about like I
wish the best for blank and family. This
is her like being weird about people.
Selfie scrugs then apologized about
Claire and Gabe because she says she was
pressured to do so. She would then later
delete
this. Very important to note. She would
say, "I'm sorry. I feel like a screw-up
is probably what I am. I'm scared to
talk about it well with things. I will
do my best. I have no ill intent and
wish Claire and Black Griffin the
best. So she deleted these as well as
other tweets that's saying but then I
like afterwards she would then fight for
them and then say they need hard proof.
What changed is that she's crazy. Uh and
then this is Sophie's tweets from like I
don't understand like the the jealousy
aspect from it. Like like I I can
understand that being like a theory, so
to speak, blah blah blah, but like
Sophie also worked for the the show in a
different in different capacity, but she
still worked for it. You know what I
mean? Well, it's because Gabe got all
the accolades. So, from what I could
tell, Sophie worked as
a comic artist, right? Yes. But she
worked as a um what's what's the cover
artist. cover. That's still a good
thing. She was ne but in her mind, in
the fandom's mind, she was not
considered a guest of honor. She was a
community guest. Okay. So, she was
lighted like that. It was always like
that from what I could tell. She still
fights today to get her name into cons.
But like there are artists, there are
fantastic comic artists that not only
that, but just like tons of tons and
tons of artists that are beloved. Like I
don't know why this duck in her crotch,
so to speak. You know what I mean? Well,
she's got a fire crotch. I don't know
what to tell you.
No. I also believe she's a furry. I
can't remember off the top of my head. I
think she's like a disabled furry. I
don't [\h__\h] give a [\h__\h] Take that.
Any such cases. This right here are some
of the tweets that Sophie would make
directly from the Brony Phantom account
that we could source. You could see it
with the uh the what is this called,
Greg?
That is called Twitter. Oh, a hyphen a
hyphen s. So you can see that bonk here
then bonk takes over the account saying
he doesn't always agree with
Sophie even though at this time in May
1st this was them fighting over the
video and but like saying that he
doesn't agree. I'm more disappointed to
see how the video came out. This is
Sophie in April tweeting as like
Bonk uh whistleblower Black Griffin's
friends. Bonk and I are investigating
again. Constantly tweeting from this
account and then constantly talking
about tweeting from this
account. I pressed the wrong button. But
very
interesting,
Sophie. Very interesting how like you're
not saying how involved you are.
That's much less impressive than it
sounds. Sophie was basically treated
like any other vendor at any of these
conventions. And that seething
resentment for that core circle that
actually had some relevance to this
community means that Sophie's interest
was not just Black Griffin. She was
fully aware of the allegations against
Serp Spark and what was going on behind
the scenes. KP presented me a TSV file
for their conversations. This is also
the format KP used to provide me her
conversations with Casey and Casey has
at least confirmed those logs are
accurate. However, I note this here
because whenever you're presented with
something that could have been edited
before it reached you, you should accept
that possibility. Before we move on from
Sophie, I want to just highlight one
section in Lazy's video, but also
claiming that they associate with people
who defend drawn child sexual abuse
material because that accusation of
association is not random. And I want
you to keep in mind the name Wootmaster
for when we get to Fan Don't. But before
that, we will talk about Wootmaster
chat. Chat, we will talk about
Wootmaster. I will show you a series of
images earlier today by Wootmaster. I
will show you a series of images. There
will be trigger warnings for these
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Yes. Uh, we made these images
specifically to edit. Yeah. Edit to edit
the images. We edit. We edited the
images. Ash edited the images
specifically so they could be Is it
Soya's trigger warning or is Krypton
trigger warning? No, no, no, no, no.
This is uh it's it's porn. It's
legitimately like porn.
Um, and we'll get there. Only on the
Oblock. Only on the Oblock. only on the
blog and we'll get to why it's
disgusting. I mean, I think that moves
us on to sort of Sophie Scruggs and
Fandone, but why don't we start with
Scrugs because I'm uh baffled at their
involvement. On that note, though, I do
work tomorrow, so I'm going to head out.
So, here's all that I know about Sophie
and my history with her. Um, I I just
these people I don't understand. It's
like this weird parasocial behavior that
has rapidly moved, it's like it's
dancing on the borderline of obsession
because the moment somebody is like
knows a bunch of stuff about you, looks
up to you. And and and I'm not saying
that to be arrogant. I'm saying that
because I've I've witnessed this
firsthand when people treat you
differently because you're a voice actor
on a show that literally outside of the
hotel the convention is held at, nobody
gives a rat's anus about. And it it is
it is so weird to me that and I'm using
this as a specific example and I
actually had to go back and research
this because I had forgot about it
because it meant nothing. Yeah. Yeah.
She's funny to me. Sorry Sophie. I'm not
trying to be rude. I'll be biased. I do
like Claire and I could be biased. You
could be biased. Yeah. It's fine. I
still have like like I still have my own
suspicions but no I like her here. But I
don't remember that I complimented your
snail once. It's over a [\h__\h] snail.
She just copplebetted her snail. Chat,
it's just a
snail. [\h__\h] crazy. These people are
[\h__\h] crazy. Was something that I did
in the moment because I was being
friendly and nice and now somehow I'm
getting backstabbed because you decided
to tweet out to everybody years ago. The
last time you got frustrated that I was
in a relationship with Gabe before we
were married and we had announced that
we were dating, you said you were
worried for your dear friend, your close
friend Claire, me. And I'm sitting here
going, "Who the hell are you? Have I
even met you before? Like what the
freak? Then I have to go back and I find
out, oh, oh, thank
God for she's not, you know, totally
crazy. But then I keep reading this
stuff and I'm like, oh my gosh, this is
literally I complimented your snail one
time and I think I might have DM'd you
about a bag that I saw at a convention
and you were at the convention and you,
you know, you and I walked through the
vendor hall and I was like, "Oh, you
have really pretty bags." Cuz I one of
them had my character on it and I was
like, "That's so cool. I think I might
have taken a picture of it." And then I
was like, "Hey, like you know, how do
you sell your bag?" I think I DM'd her
of like, "Hey, how do you sell your
bags?" Like I might have wanted to
retweet that or promote that at some
point, right? And and I find out that
this person is, first of all, has also
been kind of a gay hater for a while,
like prior to me being involved in the
situation. Had had one person one person
tell her one thing that was complete
hearsay because this went around at
conventions a lot. People were really, I
think, pissed that Gabe, you know, had
had found at this time. I think that's
what it was. And there was this bubbling
Claire at this time is 25. Uh, from what
I remember correctly, uh, she stated
that she was 25.
both her and Michelle are the same age
in the same age range if I remember
correctly. So they're both in their like
24 25 underlying level of of jealousy
basically that had kind of started
surfacing the more popular that Gabe had
got within the fandom. And I think now
because and and Sabers Spark is another
one of those people who are ending up
finding success further than outside of
the pony fandom which nobody should
freaking care about anymore by the way.
It's over. They're finding success.
They're moving on in their lives.
They're figuring out what they want to
do with their careers. How am I going to
pivot? How am I going to, you know,
create contact? What is what is it going
to look like now? And
ovation for standing ovation. No, I like
this is this is because I think the
problem with everybody in this story
that has covered this is they are still
obsessed with the fandom. And to Claire
and
Michelle, My Little Pony was a [\h__\h]
job. And that is the problem that the
the Brony fandom is hitting up against
is that My Little Pony, the fandom may
exist, but the show is
done. It's just done. And for Claire and
for Michelle, they no longer work on the
show and have gone on to other
projects. They don't like they're not
like 100% like resting on their loyal
laurels of old of old glories. They've
just moved on. And it's crazy that we
talk about realizes that we got to talk
about like the ACC how the ACC's like
dying gasps are all these weirdo
creators and stuff, but then there's
like this is like the death of of of an
internet community like wholesale. You
know what I mean? Like Okay, I'll be
I'll be honest. I don't want to be too
hyperbolic when I say this.
This feels like the death nail of the
brony community to me. Mhm. You have a
voice actress who has been embroiled in
community controversy for no fault of
her
own and she is exclaiming the fandom is
over. Please move on.
This feels like this like weirdly this
is the definitive end of this fandom and
it's kind of
insane to me anyways and I feel very
weird being a part of that. Um yeah,
you're horse famous, dude. Yeah, like
you're you're murder horse famous. I'm
murder horse famous. I'm a glue factory
famous. That it does but it does feel
like that this is the fall of the brony
empire. Yeah, like this this really
feels like the the death nail for the
family and death rattle for the the
death rattle for the for the for the fan
base. And it's weird. Uh I there are
still going to be bronies. There's still
going to be people uh that love the show
as adults that or or kids who are now
grown into adults, but not like Yeah.
You could still enjoy things that you
liked as a kid, but like you can't enjoy
the things that you liked as a kid as an
adult. Yeah. And like because you're not
not a kid anymore. And like Wolfie says,
there's still gonna be artists that
enjoy this. I'm not going to deny that.
There are fans that uh the Tumblr still
enjoys the pony art. That's fine. I just
think as a
community, the Brony fandom kind of dies
with this video. In my personal opinion,
though, I I am fair to be wrong. That's
just me.
as they do that and they find success,
these freaking bronies, and I hate to
use that as an umbrella term because I
know that there are plenty of bronies
who are out there that are very cool and
very sweet, very nerdy, nice people who
just, you know, want to have a community
and want to make friends, but there
there's also like very clearly, and I
don't think this was always there, by
the way. I think that it developed over
the years, this like weird like sexual
part of fandom, but before that it was
just like it was memes and like, "Oh, we
shouldn't be watching the show cuz it's
like for little girls. Haha, that's kind
of funny." And that's how a lot of these
people fell into it. That's how Abra
fell into it. That's how Gabe fell into
it. That's how Jeff fell into like all
these people. That's how it started and
then they got a little bit popular
because they had, you know, content that
they were making that people really
liked and then they moved on and people
are somehow so freaking pissed and
Sophie being one of these people who
keep saying things. By the way, make up
your freaking mind, Sophie. Is Gabriel
successful outside of the pony fandom or
has he reached his peak already? Because
you said both and you can't just pick
and choose when you want to use that as
a as a punching bag for some I don't
know the end of some point you're trying
to make. It doesn't make any sense. He's
either successful or he's a has been.
Which one is it? come back to me and
freaking figure it out. But anyway, I've
learned my lesson. I'm not going to
compliment people on their snails
anymore for fear that 7 years down the
road when I become an adult that they're
going to attack me after I've stood up
for myself and said, "Hey, what you're
saying is not true about me. And by the
way, I'm not a close friend of yours. I
don't know who you are." About an hour
and a half ago, I said to you that I
didn't want to originally look at this
story because I was aware of its
connection to the White Black Griffin
allegations. And over the past week or
so of looking at this, I realized that
I'm not going to really talk over Claire
so or Michelle. So uh streamer not
reacting meme. I I'll I'll do chair meme
for you chat. I was wrong. This isn't
just connected to the black riff
allegations. This is the black riff
allegations. It's just the next
iteration of it because the people going
after that was so that was the craziest
part of it was the further we dug into
it, it was very clear that Saber
specifically was
targeted directly because of the quote
success of the Black Griffin
allegations. It's really what it was.
It's very [\h__\h] bizarre. Um, but like
that that is the more we dug into it,
the more it was very apparent that this
was people
litigating the
um litigating the Black Griffin stuff by
attacking his his supporters and and his
friends. And that was very very odd. Uh
cuz from what I understand
um from what I could tell DA Games and
like Black Griffin and and Saber Spark
like like the the the connection for DA
Games is Chris
afficionado but like there's no
connection for Gabe there from what I
can tell maybe a music side but like
there's no like immediate connection
like that. Um it's like it's just
bizarre. Saber Spark right now are doing
so purely because he is friends with
Black Britain and their motivation isn't
whether Sabark is innocent or guilty.
Their motivation is finding anything
they can to stab into any member of this
group in their endless crusade against
them. If I'm not mistaken, she did come
to you, right?
Bro Fand dot was aware of her because
Amy had told her about him or told Yeah.
Uh I'm saying that like that person came
to you though. You didn't see them out.
It was the other way around. Yeah. She
used Amy. Yeah. Okay. So that tells me
she was aware enough to know about your
biases at Saber Spark and just wanted to
utilize that. Brony Fandon is an
absolute freak and I imagine that is
painfully thank you friend for my fav
starving Victorian child. Thank you. I
know I'm your favorite starving
Victorian child. Thank you. And you're
now you're actually starving. I am I'm
actually dying of hunger right now. I'll
probably go to the store after this.
They did refund me. Just want to make it
very apparent. They did refund me. Just
sucks though. Easy. Yeah. But don't
worry. The well runs deep. cuz it's
definitely somewhere. The guy's like,
"Oh, I dropped it off." Like, "So,
where's the picture?" Stopped answering.
I'm like, "You motherfucker."
One, their history in this community is
pretty bizarre. They actually started
off running a roleplay deep with this
one. There's the Ash. There's the Ash
mentioned. Let's go, Ash.
I'm famous. And you're horse famous.
Their history in this community is
pretty bizarre. They actually started
off really Yes, Brody Fanote started off
as a uh roleplay account. We went over
it on our last stream. You could see
that we [\h__\h] I [\h__\h] lit into them.
The Saber Spark stream, I lit in the
[\h__\h] into Brody Fando. I [\h__\h] aired
their ass out. Roleplay account of all
things. Earlier on, I mentioned their
schizophrenic thread from March and
their ass.
Allow me to save you some time reading
it and just provide you a simple TLDDR.
Fandote is a narcissistic lunatic. Yes,
Fandone is a [\h__\h] schizophrenic and I
do not believe they tried to take their
own life. How sad. greatest achievement
in life is role playinging as the
character Discord. Something that
essentially occurred accidentally
through a meme account connected to
their main character. Now, fandom would
describe this as accidentally. This is
why I hate things being a community on
the internet. It's a fandom and fandoms
are fanatic. Very true. Lost the woods.
Thank you. Thank you for the five, dude.
Thank you. Good to see you, brother.
Most powerful character ever. Describing
this as a trial by Bro, this guy was
obsessed. He thought he had a god
complex again. We went through this
thread the other day. Fire because with
great power comes great. Do uh what do
you think he did if he isn't in the
hospital? Uh so he was in the hospital
according to him and from what we know
from uh people who did call the police
on him. Uh on my public Twitter you
could find me at the yacht block. My
name is currently slop block I think cuz
that that was a joke.
Um he is now laundering on on blue sky.
So I an unnamed person's allegations of
military rape and sharing how the police
are completely ineffective and useless.
And I'm just like what is like no
accountability. He takes zero
accountability. Zero [\h__\h]
accountability. Like absolute zero. I
said it earlier. I think it's weird. If
you're in the hospital, the first thing
you should do is get on blue. Get on
blue sky. Yep.
Yep. Yep.
Great responsibility. After all, guys,
they were still barely a team. They keep
talking about how they were getting
bigger and bigger roles. How shocking it
was that they had fans they'd meet at
conventions. And I'm going to stop here
because this is fantasy. Yeah, it's this
is an insane thread. We read it. It's
[\h__\h] wild. They're just
schizophrenic. Like literally, they
talked about being groomed, but then
weirdly they're like, "Oh, I wasn't like
but I I'm not I'm the groomer. I It's so
bizarre. It's literally the [\h__\h]
fever dream of a post. See, I have yet
to run into anybody, and yes, I have
tried, who was even aware of this person
before they started going after Black.
Also, nobody knows who they are. They're
not horse famous. They're they're
literally just stupid. Then, Brony Fand
existed in a very, very niche part of
this community. And sure, I get it. If
you're a massive loser and you've got a
few hundred people paying attention to
your weird meme Twitter account, that
might mean something to you. But this
was Fand's life. He had nothing else.
And then suddenly, the lockdown started
to happen. For it was not apathy that
killed the bronies. It was a global
pandemic. Obviously, the vast majority
of the fan base had already moved on
from the show, but cons were still
happening, and these seem to be the only
interactions Fando had with people in
the real world. This is obviously just a
theory. Also, this is not a fake stocks.
Brony Fand willingly shared their face
for me, but timeline wise, I really do
think that this is the point where Fande
went from a bit weird to completely
[\h__\h] insane. I sound like I'm being
mean, but this is actually the only
defense for Fandome. And it also might
answer the question of why he was
utilized at all. Because right now we
can see Sophie and Amy lying through
their [\h__\h] teeth about how neither of
them thought this was a good idea and
Emily was. Oh no, look, they're saying
how it wasn't a good idea and the people
are missing the point. And oh my god,
maybe Bonk went too
far. Now chat, after all the evidence
that you've seen, is that accurate?
Is this an accurate representation of
the
facts? Everyone's a Spencer in this
story.
It's crazy.
So sad. Bonk was the fall guy. In some
ways, yes. In some ways, 100% yes. I
would agree to that statement. I do
think that he brought it on himself. I
have no sympathy for Bonk. Sure. I have
I again I'll say this again. If Bog
really took his own life now I believe
that the the blame should be shared
between Amy, Sophie and
Emily.
Sorry you guys platformed [\h__\h] freak.
It's just a bit too erratic. Ladies,
your names are all over this. My advice
to you would be to shut the [\h__\h] up. No,
no, no. Keep talking. Becket. Becket
lied. Amy, Sophie, when you see this.
Yes. I said, "Amy, you should be more
afraid because you're a dumb fuck." Uh
uh uh. Sophie, you do look like a
Michigan J Bullfrog, but don't stop
tweeting. Never stop tweeting. If you
tweet one more tweet, I will
lose. Never stop tweeting. You just
don't know which tweet is the next
tweet. You don't know which tweet me.
Keep tweeting.
do
it,
please. Yet, I get it. Fan in this story
is by far the worst actor. So, when
throwing KP to the wolves wasn't quite
enough, I guess he has to go as well.
Though, as always, I am just happy to
help. So, let's start with the friend of
all three of these people, Wootmaster.
Wootmaster or We made it. We finally
made it to Wootmaster. Let's talk a
little. Let's go through the Wootmaster
stuff and then I will show you content
warnings. They're known as an artist.
Oh, I want him. I want
him. Okay, chat. I'mma reveal something
about
Wootmaster in looking at Wootmaster's
profile because I'm trying to figure out
who the [\h__\h] he
is. You will see whole hog on his
profile. You will see whole [\h__\h] hog
on his profile. By the way, this is not
identified as an NSFW uh [\h__\h] Blue
Sky account. you will see whole
hog. And I
don't don't look at this guy's profile
at all. It's content warning. It's a
hazard warning. Don't do it. Um, he does
still have his Twitter account. The
Twitter account has all the bad [\h__\h]
Again, please do not look up this
individual. I like, especially if you
are outside of the US, I am begging you
to please not look this person up. It is
illegal to have what he has put on his
platform, retweeted, commissioned or
whatever is illegal in the UK and other
parts of Europe. I will say it again,
what this guy has retweeted on his NSFW
Twitter, which you could find it by the
way, but please don't do it, is illegal
in the UK and in other parts of Europe.
Why is it always a godamned furry? We
will go over what it actually is and
part of the problems with it
with a long history of controversy. They
actually have some history with Senate,
but our focus here is their pornographic
material because Wootmaster shares
similar interest to Brony Fandom. All
right, so this is
Smolder. Smolder is a young character.
Smolder is a child.
Okay. All right. So, here's what we're
going to do. I'm gonna flashbang my
friends and we're going to decide if
this is okay to show. I'm going to say
no immediately. I haven't seen it yet.
Window capture off. Woot master op
findings.
Your window capture is still on. No,
it's not. Okay. Oh, it's not. Okay. This
I don't like this. I don't want to see
this. Technically, it's technically
censored in the correct way.
I wouldn't. We're show poison now. Uh,
we can show some treats. We could show
this one. So,
chat, let's show you
this. So, this is an image of
smolder where they identify the
character is eight.
It's No, we do not dox here. Uh, please
do not uh point of order, if you're new
here, we do not dox. Do not dox. If I
see you doxing in chat, I will ban you
and I will report you straight the [\h__\h]
up. And I will let every content creator
know that you dox in people's chat.
Don't do it.
So you will see
here this character is eight but
written
18. What if I told
you that Wootmaster has pornography of
this
character with this exact
image with this
ID? Uh, let me see if I
can I'm I'm only looking for the ID. The
ID is at the bottom. So, the ID is right
here. I cannot show you what's in this
black box. This black box is horrific.
It's insane. Yeah, what's in this black
box? Only God and I will know. And I
will know as well. But in this thing, it
is the same
image of the ID bit being written in to
be 18. Now, if I remember correctly, and
I'm going to turn the window capture off
for the second, it's changed to 13 even
though they're eight. I could actually I
could show this. I don't want to I don't
I could show this. Yeah. I mean, chat
can just figure out what the if you if
you do middle mouse wheel and scroll
like a little bit or Yeah, do that. Do
the If you grab the little Yeah.
[\h__\h] How do I How do I It's getting
worse. [\h__\h] It got worse. Do you know
Do you know the middle map? Yeah. And
then do that. You can do it slow and
then Yeah. Um
Okay, that works.
I will I I agree. I don't agree with
this, but I I will let you do this.
They can't see what it is. You can't see
it. It's It's too
obscured. So, chat, there is the ID.
There's the ID. Let's go on again. We
will not show you what this [\h__\h] is. I'm
not going to do that.
Be careful what the next image after
this. I am turning off the window
capture for a reason.
Again, it's more smolder porn.
showing uh feet and um feet in hole if
you uh I
this one is so censored you can you can
only see you can't like this one. So
here's Wootmaster's character. That's
his charact Woot Master's character.
Wootmaster. Uh, remember you. Okay. So,
you see,
okay, as a point of order, this
character that he believes is
eight. I have to hide it again because
this I can't actually show. Don't
describe it.
It is the young dragon getting railed by
his
zebra character which he stereotypically
has like a literal giant 11 foot [\h__\h]
How How did you pronounce it?
Zebra.
I This is the sixth time I've listened
to this video. I think it actually
[\h__\h] rubbed off. Uh, this I am not
going to touch. Dynasty.
This I don't want to touch. I don't even
know what that is. This one I will show
on stream. This one I will show. I sent
this to I sent this to Dickers. Um, I
think this is okay. It's It's very hard
to show. Um,
I'll let you do this. It is a zebra.
Okay. I'm going to I'm going to put it
on screen because I I will let you do
this one. I've got it. This I don't
agree with this. Are you crying? Q 10
gifted subs. What the [\h__\h] dog? Thank
you. Thank you, chat. If you also want
to be a [\h__\h] member of the OP block,
10 gifted subs, everybody. Thank Q. I I
just muted the things for now. All
right, chat. Get ready for the flashbang
in three, two, one.
So, this is Apple Bloom doing
presumptively sexual acts to the zebra.
It's now
off again. Please don't look this up.
That was That was horrifying to
horrifying. This is actually horrifying
to censor. It is properly censored. You
cannot see what's happening. You cannot.
I even censored his butt cheeks.
I hate this one. I know. Why is this
safe? This is safer. You can show this
work. Do not I don't want to I don't
like I don't like that one. No, because
I do think it's important to highlight
this one. This one is safe for work in
So this is a safe for work
page. This is a safe for work
art on his NSFW page of
Fullcon. safe for work art retweeted on
his NSFW full con
account. This is the people Brony Fanote
surrounds himself with and to this day
if you go to his [\h__\h] blue sky still
supports. How is this safe for work? So
there there is no sexual imagery at all.
Like these are this is just them
standing around. But these are the
characters this person is obsessed with.
Uh no Equestria Sisters. We're not doing
that. We can't show that. Not showing
any of you don't want to show none of
these I will show. Uh do we have the
Noel image in here? Can't remember if we
do.
I don't I don't think we redid the Noel
image, which is fine. I don't want to
see it anymore. No, it's fine. So, chat,
you want to know what it means to have
to do a lot of research on the [\h__\h]
depravity of humankind?
Welcome to it.
Obviously, I don't want to flashbang you
with this stuff. I'm a complete [\h__\h]
amateur. Fortunately, I don't have to,
though, because if you want to know what
sort of person Woot is, that other major
controversy involves their partner, who
was a pedophile person. Oh, yeah. That's
right. Uh uh uh Woot Master's uh partner
was an open pedophile. Banned by Elon
Musk. Woot an open pedophile. History is
shockingly wellknown and Fandone is
constantly bringing them up even in the
DMs with K. The reason I raised this is
a to show you what sort of person
Fandone is, but secondly, what's the
Woot story? By the way, Woot called him
out publicly and shared plenty of
evidence and then was silenced by legal
threats leaving out that he's a [\h__\h]
[\h__\h] he dates a pedophile. Leaving it
out.
Because it is no coincidence that Fandom
is so keen to go after and look look who
they're fighting and Saber Spark is
like, "Hey, it's really [\h__\h] crazy.
You Woot master are defending people in
2022 or or or are defaming people in
2022."
Cassaber has fought with Woot publicly
on Twitter. I'm honestly not sure quite
how to square the circle between
somebody who spends their entire life at
the moment trying to out somebody as a
groomer while also simultaneously
defending their friend who either was or
is dating a pedophile all under a
backdrop of this bizarre pornography.
And it is interesting, right, that Brony
Phanto seems to start going after the
voice actress for Sweetie Bell the
minute she gets into a relationship. Oh,
wait. What's that? The moment that
Bernie Phantom
sees
that Cla's character is in a
relationship with Clare as the human
being, not the
character. Weird that he starts going
after Cla Sweetie Bell, a character that
he's also had weird art of in the past.
I can't find that specifically because
the account is locked, but good to know.
No, he if I remember correctly, he
deleted it. He deleted the art. Yeah, I
know. It's almost as if this adult woman
publicly dating somebody else ruined
Fandon's fantasies. And no, I'm not
going to show it to you, but Woot Master
did at one point seemingly either draw
or retweet. This is the art I will not
show you. We do have this art. Um,
heavily heavily heavily
censored. Ezekiel the Zebra made
art of Claire's character doing sexual
acts. It's like a pinup thing if I
haven't recorded. I'm not sure about the
keyhole idea, so I saved it without it.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Smiling face with tear emoji. That's why
chat, please, please support the stream.
Is that the art you made me see?
Dickers. No, it's not. Uh, I did show
the art I made you see. I have other
art. This right here is specifically of
Claire's character. Dickers. Did Cameron
get raped again? I need to know what is
happening with Cameron. Is he getting
like is he constantly surrounding
himself with lolli lovers? I need to
know
this. We showed other ones that like
because of the way they're censored is
pretty safe,
but it's this is crazy. pornographic got
gang raped this time. Oh, Cameron is
never releasing that next video.
Oh buddy. Oh god. of Sweetie Bell. Fan's
crusade against Gabe has been
longunning, but most interestingly about
it is how he has treated Clare because
she went from his primary concern to his
mortal enemy. Even going to any abuse
she may have suffered from her father.
For those not in the know, Clare has
been very vocal about having a troubled
home life, much of which seems to be
dismissed by people. This is a highlight
to be noted. Uh, the Ocean Dub voice
actor for Goku, Ian James Corlet, Mr.
Fantastic and also Mr. Fantastic and
Marvel
Rivals. I already don't like
him. This
is Claire's father. So, it's important
to note that because she has been
alleging for a period of time, and you
heard it in the interview, that her
father has been manipulative throughout
her life. And the further she got away
from him, the more she realized how
negative it was. And of her father, as
he is the Canadian voice actor for Goku,
when all this stuff with Fando started,
Clare just thought it was a dad because
he has a history of making fake accounts
to basically stalk her and her now
husband. There's evidence of him
admitting this to her in a recording.
Now, many people haven't heard this.
It's part of one of the Gabe defense
documents and a little So, I'm going to
highlight something. This is what
actually pisses me off. If you go to the
Billy Bustup document, you have to Okay,
this is a side note. If you ever make a
Google
doc, do not have an exoderating audio
clip be requested. I had to request this
clip and literally beg someone to be
like, "Hey, can you release this clip to
me?" Because no one has ever heard it.
So, literally in Beckett's video, uh,
shout outs to Ash. Ash did the, uh, the
subtitling on the video. It's why I love
this team. We find information. We have
everyone who can do at least like one
different thing. It's like really really
interesting. I love
it. Nobody has really heard this clip.
No one's heard the video uh the the
sound bites in this. Nobody covering the
story has ever reported on the sound
bites because they're impos they're
obnoxious to grab. Not impossible,
obnoxious. Thank you, Rex. Take my
pocket money. Soy man. Yeah, the Billy
Bustup crew is kind of dumb for that.
Yes. Thank
you. So, with permission, I'm just going
to play it for you. One thing I would
like to say, if you want to talk about
Twitter and lying, yeah. Do you have
something to say for yourself, Janice?
Absolutely. Yeah. I I've formed a
Twitter handle that uh because I didn't
think it was appropriate for your your
to go what a croc of [\h__\h] that is, Gabe.
I hear the Goku in the voice is actually
kind of wild, though. I hear the ocean
dub Goku. I I've never heard Ocean Dub
Goku. Uh, so Ocean Dub Goku is really
the voice that Four um Team Four Star is
based off of. I've never watched Team
Four. Okay. You never watch Dragon Zach?
No, I don't like those guys. Why don't
you like them? They seem kind of
annoying. I mean, that's actually kind
of fair. I like No, no, no. Just because
it's kind of human, that's all. And I
completely So, again, Ian is admitting
to create sock accounts to harass Gabe
and his
daughter. [\h__\h] bonkers.
So cyber bullying is completely admit to
it. Really? But you never told me. Why
would I tell you? You blocked me on
Twitter. Big deal. So you didn't want to
see me? But you you'll tell me. I'll
tell you right now. I'm not Why did you
block me on Twitter? I'm not What do you
Janice blocked on Twitter? Fine. You
want I can unblock you. You know what?
Now that it's all in the open, I'll
really do it because I think this I
think that people No, no one knows
nothing about this. I think that people
that need to be called out when they're
full of it. And frankly, there's a huge
component of his followers that go,
"What the hell are you tweeting for at
3:00 in the morning for that is very
common for him. So I am well aware of
that. It's not like it's not like he's
on tour in, you know, in Ario
Speedwagon." Ario Speedwagle. Also, I
love the way that the the the subtitles
spelled Ario Speed Wagon. Like it's like
like it's
Italian.
To be fair, I missed this when I was
listening to it. Somebody get me in
there. I am I am the grammar wizard. I
know how to spell Ario Speed Wagon. Reo
Speed
Wagon wagon and they're playing games
till 2 a.m. He's doing nothing. Also, I
think a lot of Mario Speed Wagon is I
think parts of Ario Speed Wagon are
dead. I don't know about that. You are
trying to sabotage. I think I think Ian
is kind of dating himself. I don't think
part people. Who is Janice? So Janice is
a sock cout that Ian made to harass
Gabe.
Him and his Why am I hearing it in the
Jojo style? Because that's how I'm
saying it. I said speed wagon career and
everything about him and that is the way
you're going about it. Yeah. Imagining
arguing with your dad on Twitter is
wild. and you're you're you're swooing
your freaking way around every other
possibility that could get you.
Uh so just to highlight it, this is the
audio as it was received. There is a
cut. We did not cut it. I don't know why
it was cut specifically. Um this is how
we received it. I do want to make that
very clear. This is the direct audio
file I got. Maybe it's just because
Claire didn't uh uh wasn't able to save
part of it either. Or maybe it's an
error with Billy bus stop. It could have
uh this could have been two two audio
audios in one. Who knows? Yeah. His
extra Twitter account said I did not
deny. Yeah, Gabe sent you a DM said
quit. I know what this is about. And you
were like, "Oh, just another hater."
That's not denying anything. I am a
hater.
I am a hater. So this is the second
audio quarantine in your [\h__\h] room.
Bye. I have one more thing. What do you
have now? Why is it? Where's all this
[\h__\h] Oh, I'm going to go into
family therapy with this. You said
family therapy. [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
liar. I know you're going to try
to [\h__\h] off. Whatever you think.
I don't think I don't think Marvel
rivals uh a casted Ian to say holy [\h__\h]
off while he alts in in as Mr.
Fantastic. But I would request a change.
Yeah, he told his daughter to [\h__\h]
off again. Brony Fano denies that Ian is
abusive. Denies it outright will deny it
and then we'll backtrack and be like,
"Well, I didn't know about it, but it
seems like these are Gabe talking
points." Think about the Black Griffin
allegations. People are just denying
this happened to her because it doesn't
fit with their narrative. And if you're
somebody who claims to care about
victims, this seems like a pretty
callous and uncaring thing to do. And it
has served to silence these people
because why would they speak out? In
fact, Black Griffin offered to speak to
me and I realized, yeah, I said this
before that was a pointless endeavor and
a waste of my time and his because
whatever he said, none of his detractors
will believe him. A significant portion
of the conversations I've had with
Michelle Anclair are in reference to
these allegations, but on reviewing it,
I realized putting it in may be
completely pointless. What I will say is
both of them have spoken plainly and
openly to me about these accusations.
That being said, I do think there is one
particular use for these conversations
because one thing they serve to
highlight is the insane level of a
logging these people have been subjected
to over the years. We're talking
anything public about these people. It's
being trolled through and picked apart
by this lunatic to find anything
damaging. And I want to show you that
through the perspective of Michelle with
Gabe and Clare. The irony is we've
calculated now that Gabe and Clare met
outside of conventions roughly six to
seven times. And we've gone through all
of our photos, all of our like
collectively to calculate accurately how
many times it would have been when she
was a minor outside of like conventions.
And it still would have us like that's
that's including like video shoots. It
just happens to be that literally five
out of seven of those times were filmed.
It was it like so to these people it
looks like so much was like those were
literally the only times they interacted
and then maybe the other two times were
my two birthdays. You know what I mean?
Like it's just so the irony is crazy cuz
it's like those were literally the only
times they saw each other. Oh and one
other time we saw like Book of Mormon
and I don't think we filmed any videos
there but we they have used this Book of
Mormon [\h__\h] picture always. It's
[\h__\h] weird. Like posted a picture.
though it's literally all these times
they're finding those are the only
examples like no more exist essentially.
I don't understand how it's the people
who are taking this way too seriously
that get so wrapped up in this and
they're like look at here they're by
themselves and I'm like no we're not
we're with another person they're right
freaking there and they just take
screenshots of which I think is so funny
the fact that they're like screenshots
from videos that I made and someone's
like please send this to Claire we can
still get her out there's still time.
I'm like why is your goal that you want
me to get divorced or is it a step
further? Do you want me to freaking
marry you? Because that's creepy. You
know why? Because unlike Gabriel, you
guys have been obsessed with me since I
was 13. So maybe think about that the
next time you look at yourself in the
freaking mirror. Jeez. So one of the
things that people, you know,
there's really nothing to say. Um,
sex are just like people been obsessed
with her since she was a child.
regarding what Claire is saying. Um, we
highlighted it when we went over some of
the the Gabe super 300page doc. There
are clips from videos that it's very
clear that there are other people there
filming and they're filming each
other. Michelle also had a channel.
Claire had a channel. You don't think
that their parents who who doubled as
their agents didn't look at this and
say, "Huh, oh, I approve
this." That's all I'm
saying. I don't know. Claim is an
inaccuracy that that counters reality of
how many times, you know, Gabe and Clare
spent together and how close friends
they were. Was Gabe saying, "We weren't
friends." I know Gab's definition of
friends. I know he would not have
considered Clare a friend because he
would consider somebody a friend that he
had, you know, like contact with. Phone
number, he only had Cla's phone number,
I don't know, some point like 2017ish
because one of her parents gave him or
no, one of her parents gave Cla Gab's
number and that actually made Gabe
really uncomfortable and I was there
when he first received a text from her
and was like, "Oh god." So, according to
Michelle,
Gabe
got Gabe received a text from Claire
only
after one of the parents, one of her
parents, Claire's
parents, gave Claire Gab's
number, but Fouchy, it ruins the
narrative. Again, this is hearsay. I I
can't source this evidence, but why are
they always so increasingly consistent
when the opposition is not? That's for
you to
decide.
Again, I'll be frank. I reached out and
they spoke. They put us in touch with
other
people. Emmy hasn't done
that. KP kind of did that. Amy New
hasn't done that. Sophie Scruggs hasn't
done
that. I don't really give a [\h__\h] about
Courtney Pete. I wouldn't want to talk
to that [\h__\h] with a 10-ft pole. I could
probably smell her through the internet
connection, but Bonk. Oh, Bonk. I did
talk to be fair.
I mean, we did have a combo with him.
Yeah. Quite buddy. How are you doing? I
know. This [\h__\h] is insane, bud. This
[\h__\h] is insane.
Um, again, when I when I spoke with
these people and even obviously the
Saber stuff is off the record, but I do
want to like highlight that for a
second.
Um, these people were willing to speak
because they've been dealing with this
for so long with zero
restitution. But again, if these people
were the ones that were so afraid like
the way Brony Phanto and all of them
portrayed them to
be, they wouldn't be speaking with us
now. Straight up, we wouldn't have
gotten these. We wouldn't have gotten
access to this.
That is what I for as an audience. That
is what I hope the education I bring to
you guys and the stories that we break
and the evidence that we look
at. It's the same thing you should
always do with us when we say things as
well as any other stories moving
forward. This is why it's
important. Why did they give Claire my
number? I don't want her to have my
number. There were other people in the
room too, so I'm not even the only
witness to that. But um they again only
we've calculated it specifically. They
only spent six to seven times
approximately together outside of
conventions. And I think yeah, five or
so of those times were filmed. And there
was only one instance during our entire
childhood minority period where Gabe and
Claire and I just the three of us were
alone. And it's that one video of us
going out into the woods. And I delete
it because I felt showing the dead
raccoons was inappropriate. I I deleted
it like eight years ago because I just
thought it was And again, I didn't I
didn't know about the dead raccoons. And
again, I I don't know if it's this video
or the other one that where it's the
weird age of consent conversation that
goes on, but if you read a little bit
further, as much as Gabe probably should
have disengaged with the conversation,
and it made me feel
uncomfortable, you can see that there
are people arguing about the age of
consent. And for some reason, Gabe is
like, I can solve this
dilemma and and and calm everybody down.
I I believe that video is still up and I
read all of the comments to it or maybe
it's not and I'm just reading it and I'm
like yeah no he's trying to like bridge
the gap and it's it's making him come
off as a creep because he's talking
about it but there are people that are
arguing well the age of cassette in my
state is in my home is this but it's
like this it's really creepy that you
said this blah blah blah blah blah blah
and he's just trying to calm the fans
down so they don't yell at each other
and it's weird but again it's what it
portrays to be
this is kind of a gross video. Um, this
literally the only instance and these
people somehow like went I don't even
know how they found it and they thought
I deleted it because the comments were
inappropriate. It was literally like a
super popular video. I deleted it
because I just thought it was gross and
I I delete like I I don't know. I
unlisted a bunch of videos a long time
ago cuz I just like I don't know. We're
just kind of like being immature. Like I
don't really like I didn't like showing
a pile of five dead raccoons on my
channel that just wasn't professional. I
was focusing on my music. So I unlisted
a bunch of those videos I just thought
weren't really I wouldn't want people to
like go back and see now just for my own
sake. Not because I, you know, not
because the comments were like
inappropriate of, "Oh, you know, Gabe's
taking two young girls out in the
woods." We were there for probably an
hour and it's 5 minutes away from my
house and both of our sets of parents
would have approved it and literally
every other time. I just had like a
random thought. This is just me. Imagine
being sponsored for a stream like
this. Like I know Chud has got like the
Candy Crush sponsorships. Candy Crush,
you want to sponsor us? Wait, I think
about his Candy Crush sponsorship. He's
had like more than one and he has his
rape reviews. Yeah. Like imagine getting
a Candy Crush sponsorship while [\h__\h]
covering rape
allegations and like pedophilia like and
us like showing like heavily censored
art. I [\h__\h] I can't What [\h__\h]
world do we live in that this is like
our hobby? It's so funny to me. time
Claire and Gabe would have ever seen
each other when Clare was a minor.
Parents and many other adults would have
been around every single time. That's
the one video and they use that one
single video that I even deleted and
they somehow found I don't know how as
proof that they spent time alone. It's
completely untrue. Nothing's ever
deleted on the internet. Now, to some of
you, this might feel like new
information or flies in the face of what
you've been told previously. But there's
two things I'd like you to keep in mind.
Firstly, that the people who are going
after this group are really dumb. One of
the questions I had actually generally
is there's so much focus on Cla being
married to Gabe, but these sort of I
don't know rumors or the way people
thought about the relationship started
with you. And so that that was a big
thing in the research is that every
grooming allegation technically started
with Michelle.
Yeah. And then when Gabe came out with
or when Gabe and Cla came out with
dating, it then
moved to
Claire and Michelle to her credit. Pivot
pivot time. Pivot time to pivot. Yeah.
And like to Michelle's credit, she's
like, "This is bizarre." Speaking with
Michelle is very interesting. Uh very
very sweet uh person, very nice. Um
clearly done with this.
Um, I don't think it's in the interview.
Uh, but she did discuss, um, I I know
it's in this one. It's not off the
record. It was on the record, but I
don't think it's in the video. I do want
to highlight it just because I do think
it's important because some people will
say it. Uh, Cla Michelle put up
something that was like, "Hey, uh, this
didn't happen. Gay has been nice to me."
and then took it down uh because she
felt like the story was
done and she doesn't really use social
media that
much. And then the story didn't finish
and people take her taking it down
because she didn't want it pinned on her
her social media because she's a
musician and an
actor and she wanted to use her social
media for her performances as an
admission of guilt.
And it's [\h__\h] insane that all she
just did was just like unid it and
they're like, "Oh, yeah. It doesn't look
like your p your guilt." She took it off
for Twitter. It's guilt.
No, she thought the story was done.
Like, it's insane. The level of of the
level of parasociality is wild. So, it's
very interesting that they've focused in
on CLA people. They seem to be going,
"Well, we know this person. We care
about this person. We want to save this
person." And you who were also involved
kind of gets sidelined. And the fact
that you barely you don't really know
them or have any interactions with them
is almost a bit telling that they're I
mean they're strangers essentially.
They're strangers. I know nothing about
them. They know nothing about us, you
know. Maybe Claire's interact with the
specific people a couple more times than
me. It sounds she has more specific
memories, but yeah. No, I mean it is uh
it is interesting too like how many
examples and stuff that people have sent
me like screenshots where like they mix
us up too. Like it'll be This happened
in the Black Griffin Expose doc where
they mixed up Claire and Michelle. This
actually happened in the exposed doc.
It'll be like 10 years ago or like they
think it's gay. And I even mentioned
that to her. It's cut. But I mentioned
that to her. She's like, "Yeah, that's
weird."
Yeah.
Like me with my short hair and Claire
like just silly stuff like that. Tell us
apart. It's hysterical. And secondly,
until we reached out, no one has tried
interviewing these two women. And what
makes that particularly insane is not
the level of incompetence on display.
It's the fact that people like Amy new
have direct lines to them and never
thought to ask. Peter's a voice actor.
They all worked in the same circle. Why
did nobody
ask? Amy, I thought you weren't shaking.
I thought you weren't
scared. Amy's got some explaining to
do. Since these new rumors have kicked
up, we'll say in the last few years or
like the the campaign against uh Black
Griffin started, have people tried to
actually approach you for your opinion
on this or actually cared what you
think? Because it appears with CLA,
Cla's like, "No, this isn't happening.
That's not the way any of this occurred.
You're wrong." And people have gone,
"Well, of course she thinks that. She's
a victim and protecting her husband and
now she's evil." Um, have you sort of
experienced similar stuff or just or
have you just been sort of sideline? And
no one's ever asked us, you know, if
these people actually were concerned
that we were taken advantage of as
minors. They've never asked us. They
they claim to know us. They could have
do you think you have our phone number
or email? Like you know we have peers in
common. We have colleagues in common.
Are you really that concerned about us?
Like it's it's insulting.
It's we're we're 25-year-old adults. And
frankly, they don't have any idea how
young we had to become adults as well.
So you want to treat us like fully, you
know, professional people at the age of
13 paying taxes and like doing all this
having full careers for already, you
know, five plus years and yet we're too
immature to know our own circumstances
and our own past and present. Yeah, it's
very I mean again if there weren't all
these ramifications for Gab's career,
none of us would care at all. That's why
none of us have like talked about it for
the longest time is always just garbage.
You know why it I'm not I think I think
that's also very telling is that they
just didn't want to engage with it
because they knew it would they knew it
was just going to perpetuate it. But
they had to because it continued over
and over and over and over the longer
they stayed away from it just as much as
if they engaged in it.
value your opinion. I don't I don't I
don't know you. So, only now, I mean,
this is probably honestly the last time
I'm going to talk about it is with you
guys because I I appreciate that you're
the first people I've seen that are
actually trying to get to the bottom of
this. Um, but we all just want to move
on. I mean, we're we're digging up our
lives from 10 plus years ago because
these people who have never even met us,
claim to know what's happened in our
lives, but don't take any weight in our
perspective. After all this time and
effort spent silencing people who were
actually involved in speaking for the
potential victims of Black Griffin,
Freddy Fando must have been jumping for
joy when Courtney Pete was making a
video and then Lazy Bedhead and then
comes KP and allegations against Sabre.
Man, April must have looked like a very
good month for Fandote. But then
everything begins to fall apart. Fandote
had wanted the spotlight. He wanted
attention and when he finally got it,
well, that monkey p So is this whole
thing with Saber Griffin 1.5?
Yes. Yes. Um, I can confirm with 100%
certainty that fan don't has alleged
that the only reason Emmy came to him
was because he did such a good job with
Black Griffin. I have that
DM. I can source
that. Yeah. A very particular way. So,
let's have a look at the fallout from
his side and um his interesting rea.
Hey, there's the side bench. Go on. This
is what the audio is crazy. Yeah, that
audio is crazy. We've already gone over
much of Fando's reaction. It's a
hilarious audio, but it bears repeating
the first public statement. Yeah,
the KP audio doesn't need to be played.
It's just [\h__\h] hilarious. I'm sorry.
It's so good. It's kind of unnecessary
to like the overall point of the video,
but I do love listening to it. It's so
[\h__\h] funny. This guy Becket told me
that you need to go forward.
It's so [\h__\h] It's such a [\h__\h]
story. From Sophie, not from Bonk.
Concern primarily in the fact that he
realized quite quickly that this video
might be damaging to the accusations
against [\h__\h] games. Wait, if you are an
OP block member, you're going to see a
special shout out soon. Well, he says
that he doesn't want to [\h__\h] on KPB and
just get people to hate on her. It
wouldn't take long before the pressure
really started to get to him. Now, we're
going to skip ahead a bit to when things
get interesting around the 12th because
as things have been moving behind the
scenes, Bonk wasn't idle. He'd been
plotting with Emily to save the sinking
ship. Becoming increasingly confident
that once KP was again, he's talking
with KP. Listen, I get it. Like, it
sucks. I'm unavailable if you try to
reach me. They're trying to work on
things together. He'd be able to emerge
the hero. This would all come to a
screeching halt, however, when Saber
Spark released his response. Sabre again
has denied these accusations, but more
importantly, the video isn't addressed
to Emily, focusing more towards KP and
Fernando and their devious little
schemes. Van don't at this point
predictably panics, saying the response
would be coming within the next few
hours. This response would not come.
Most hilariously, it never
came. Where's the response, Emmy? Where
is it? Said that he was documenting
other people's responses, which further
Yeah. What are you doing? You're [\h__\h]
like, I'm going to record you. I'm going
to report you to your job. Uh, woot
master 6699 going to report you big dick
dom66.
This is like the this is we we have
somehow seen this a lot. But yeah, the
the a logger will a log whatever and and
not really be able to parse the
information.
Yeah, a complete [\h__\h] laughingtock.
And this would just be the beginning of
what turned into a god tier crash.
Fandome would blame the lack of response
on an unnamed drama channel. At the time
I thought this was probably me. It might
also be OP. Oh, here it is. Wait for it,
chat. It's a word of power. Emmy. Oh, I
will read this. I need Becca to give
this to me so I can [\h__\h] frame this.
Oh, he's whipping out the last night.
There was a horrific stream. It was like
9 hours. I was so drained watching it
though. The focus you specifically the
focus on you has been specifically
overwhelming.
It said of the story itself, "What are
you going to do?"
It was 9 and a half hours. This [\h__\h] is
screaming into the phone. Why aren't
they
listening? I in my mind, she's like
screaming at the top of her lungs,
staring at the stream, being like, "Who
is the OP block? What have they done to
you?" Who is Trans Ultron?
It's Trans Ultra. Hi Emmy. We know
you're watching. Chat, make sure to say
hi to Emmy. Yes, chat. You too should
say hi Emmy. And if you haven't already
liked the stream and subscribed to
become a member of the OP block, you
should. We have made multiple [\h__\h]
top creators crash the [\h__\h] out and it
will continue to happen every [\h__\h]
time. Oh, that's like it's another notch
on the belt. Like it's actually really
[\h__\h] hilarious at this
point, but it's it's it's do little.
It's I will say the [\h__\h] Dan's burst
and and Scarlet feels like the the milk
goddess need like a like aon soon
ac I feel crash out is hilarious. The
acolyte the crash out. I I feel a
disturbance like I feel like there
something needs to be added to the to
the soon. Yeah, I feel like something
soon. But um we need to show the milk
goddess. I think we have new people.
We do. Okay. Yeah, pull it up. Pull it
up. Someone's just gonna grab it for me
cuz I want to try to get this video
because I do know from her she was
watching his streams, but I am named in
KP's unhinged voicemail. I'd say that we
had very good evidence that it was Emmy
and she should talk to me or at least
somebody at this point given what was
unfolding with the situation. Either
way, [\h__\h] hilarious. Now, at the time
of recording, the Brony Fandon is
locked, which makes me very grateful for
channels like Internet Versus. Because
this lack of a further statement from
Emmy seems to have seriously messed with
Fandon's plans. He'd begin wildly
lashing out at everyone from KP to lazy
bedheads, saying he didn't want to hand
over. Oh, look, there I am again.
[\h__\h] word of power, baby.
But like OP, when this didn't work, he
basically conceds defeat and moves to a
Hail Mary play. Now, one thing you
should know about Bonk is at the
slightest pressure. Side note, Bon, you
did uh [\h__\h] you. I don't like when I see
my friend's name being used in your
[\h__\h] insanity. You [\h__\h] piece of
[\h__\h] You should have jumped. This guy
will say that he's going to end himself.
So, against the current insane tyrann
Don't fake that you're going to commit
suicide at this point.
if you're going to fake it and make up
random stories. Okay, I see it up
significantly as he posted a link to a
Twitch stream in which he's walking in
the rain. Now, there's one thing I will
say
slight not necessarily a mistake, but it
was a twitch streams that turned into
two separate Twitter streams. Just as a
point of I I
[Music]
I technically it was one here to
instigate and crash out. That is my
reason that it's why I'm here. I don't
want the smoke. I am the smoke. This is
our milk goddess for all the people new
in chat is with all of our LOL cows
and Saber and Sabersmith because
Sabersmith is not a LOL cow. He
transcends cybermith. Holy [\h__\h] my
brain is a word of power. Now, I want to
be a touch sensitive here. Not in
deference to fan don't, but this is a
topic that touches a lot of people's
lives, unfortunately, myself included.
For that reason, I am Italian seriously
and I get really angry when I think
people are baiting this [\h__\h] for
sympathy. Rather, I'd like to focus on
the actions of others because despite
the [\h__\h] that Bonk has, there was almost
universal concern for his wellbeing. For
those who don't know, Cyber Sith is a
[\h__\h] ancient lull cow uh that like
crashed our stream and like one of our
first streams and we just had fun.
Multiple people would phone wellness
checks, giving out landmarks and
identifying information to try and help
the police track this guy down and stop
him harming himself. Even Sophie would
apparently do the right thing, taking
access to the account away from Bob and
locking it. And this wasn't just his
friends. Angry Slug and Lio both made
serious efforts. I can say for 100%
certain I know Slug and Lio did it. I
was told and they told me. Like I I know
for a fact that Slug and Lio did
everything they could to find this kid
to try and protect this guy. The actual
wellness check that did the trick
apparently came from Bara, somebody who
was now Baja is an interesting case and
we'll get there.
Fallen out with him over his insane
takes on pornography and that's largely
the last we've heard of Bonk. So
Baja in this video on Twitter
identified that the reason they had
falling out is that Bonk cannot tell
fact from fiction and he has a weird god
complex. Yes.
All right. How do you feel? I feel like
uh people with god complexes should stay
away from children's television shows.
Yes. Uh, gamer, we know I did at the top
of the stream, but thank you. Thank you.
Thank you, dog. I've been I've Listen,
I hate to say it. Uh, I am Brony
Fanone's greatest a
logger. He He cannot This man cannot
tweet without me knowing. Listen,
there's a there's been a lot of low tier
god posting lately. I will be the
opposite because I would like to be
sponsored and I will not say these
things on FG's behalf. It's fine. It's
fine. I joke. It's all satire. There's
satire. It's in the description. There's
a dis there's a there's a satire
disclaimer for the moment. He's
apparently in some kind of medical care,
which let's be honest, he defin which
he's now out of. We discussed this out
of post up with the street. Again, I'd
like you to hear Cla's thoughts on the
guy who's been harassing her for years.
Think it also moves us quite nicely on
to
actually very
interesting individual. He started off
by being and again like I have TG video
when
if we do if we do a low tier god video I
need to bring on uh front of the channel
Sly. I got to [\h__\h]
you are his anime rival. Thank you. I
had to sneeze. Uh I have to bring on
Sly. Uh King Sly is a friend of the
channel. Uh cool guy. Like talking with
him because uh a small
aside, the low tier god Aloggers also
crashed out recently. Really? Oh,
really? Yeah. They also crashed out. It
was on Sly's channel. It's [\h__\h]
hilarious. I don't understand how the
[\h__\h] that happened, but the A-lockers
hated being a logged. It's Yeah, Tales
of Dale crashed the [\h__\h] out. And it's
hilarious. And they tried to like be
like [\h__\h] weird. I heard IMO got
dusted. Yeah, there's like weird [\h__\h]
that happened, but Sly was not involved
with that. It was them being [\h__\h]
It's them doing the ebegging [\h__\h] Like
unfortunately, if you're a logging
people like
that, ebegging's hard,
dog. Yeah, no problem answering people's
questions. If they're genuinely asking
me a question or if they start, which he
did, by saying, "This is a situation I'm
bringing to light. Claire has been
groomed by Black Griffin, also known as
Gabriel Brown, and everybody should know
about it." And he proceeded with this
whole long thread, and I read it, and I
was like, "Oh, this is hilarious." like
surely people are not, you know, going
to bite on this. And then I saw that
like enough people were that it started
to kind of annoy me and I was like, what
the heck? So I was like, listen, this
guy's like clearly he's been in the My
Little Pony fan for a long time. He
definitely knows who I am and so I feel
like I should, you know, kind of make
communication with him. And I did and I
said, "Hey man, like basically this is,
you know, I appreciate the sentiment.
I'm I'm I'm okay. Uh what you think is
happening is not happening. Um it didn't
happen and it certainly didn't happen
with Michelle either. So, could you
just, you know, go ahead and and, you
know, Yeah. problem solved. You You
don't have to be a hero. I I don't need
saving and Michelle doesn't need saving.
We're good. Um, none of this happened. I
was not groomed, you know. And if you do
plan to cover the deadbeat rogue, be
prepared for him and his cucks to go
after you.
Do you mean do you mean low tier god or
do you
mean if if you mean LTG, I [\h__\h]
welcome it. I mean, we're I think we're
too small on his radar. Really? I have
been following low tier god for
years. Are you covering the tales of
Dale Crash out? Maybe. I think it's I
think it's better left for Sly's channel
because it was like uh directly because
of his channel and their interaction
because they got weirdly parasocial with
the dude. Uh yeah. No, I know he means
low tier god. I
was here's what I will say. I've been
following low tier god for years. I
would welcome it if low tier god
appeared in my chat and said you should
kill yourself now. I would be [\h__\h]
honored.
Like a right of passage. It would be a
right of p like it would be like
christening the channel. Like we've
christened the channel with glue. I need
the champagne. The low tier god posting
is the
champagne. Also, I don't think he like
comes on YouTube, right? Because he's
still on Twitch. So I or maybe I'm wrong
and he just turned immediately and
became extremely so these messages um
shout out to Claire. Claire gave us
these messages, gave me these messages
and I passed them over to Becket. This
is Brony Fandom literally crashing out
in Claire's uh private messages and
freaking
out and being like, I can't believe uh I
can't believe he's doing this. I can't
believe you're doing this. You're a
liar. You're a terrible victim. Like
this is immoral. Like like you're
allowing like you're [\h__\h] awful. I
can't believe you are a part of Gab's
like grooming. Like it's insane. and
didn't care what I had to say after that
point because at that point I had spoken
up against what oh my god your lawyer
deceased this is a real he was saying
and he was not going to have that this
is not somebody who is worried for me
and once I say something on the matter
and this is why it's so annoying when
people are like this person needs to
make a statement this person needs to
make a statement I'm like why because
the it depends who it's for if we're
talking about people who are my fans my
fans know that I'm chilling my fans
follow me on Instagram and Twitter or
whatever and see that I'm very happy in
my life and my relationship and I'm fine
and He I think got, you know, he was he
was observing this on his other
accounts. Yeah, this is this is insane.
I've had issues with this. This is part
of the reason why I
was at a certain point. This is probably
the reason why I spent like sleepless
nights working on this story
and the this, you know, I mean, by this
I mean me and Gabe like dating. when we
had come out and announced that we were
dating um we were worried about that
because we know that there are some
people in this fandom who are you know a
little bit loony for lack of a better
terminology and those people are you
know will spread stuff about you and
that was something that we were like you
know let's pick our moment basically but
eventually we were like you know what
who cares like we I am very happy in
this relationship and Gabe was like I'm
very happy in this relationship we you
know we had kind of talked about it and
we were like yeah I feel like we can
kind of let our followings know and we
we have a shared following but we also
have a separate following and it's kind
of funny because it's
Kevin, it's a complicated answer. Um,
there's only like one hard thing that
is, which is like the public deviant
archon of the station, but everything
else is just well outside of Yeah.
outside of his interactions with
Claire is just incredibly nuanced
because
again out so here's the thing that a lot
of people keep getting wrong when I see
things being
sourced the deviant art conversation
that is public and it's the weird and it
is the weird like oh my honey oh my
ex-husband blah blah blah blah blah
blah that
conversation is not a victim testimony
it is evidence they found in the past.
They did not reach out to this person.
This person did not come forward. They
found it. Destiny Doodles and the other
victim in qu the other the other accuser
in question both came out said, "Oh, he
sent me a dickpick and has never proved
it." And in the case of the Snapchat
accuser, the Snapchat accuser only
provides a very
tailored professional interaction where
she as a fan is trying to get more out
of him than he is willing to give. And
that's part of the
problem.
Um, oh, the DA girl was the Yes, the
China one. Yes, the the Africa China
one. Yeah, and that's the problem.
There's no evidence for the other thing
sourced again. Gabe buying Girl Scout
cookies is not evidence. Gabe, one of
his songs being featured by Shane Dawson
and asking for the shout out for a song
being featured is not an endorsement of
grooming. Like, I don't understand. It's
not him being in a [\h__\h] secret like
like Illuminati YouTube pedophile cabal.
Like, it's very weird. Like, do you
think Gabe is the Epstein of [\h__\h]
like YouTube? Like, this doesn't make
any sense.
It legitimately doesn't. But again, it's
incredibly nuanced. You can feel, and
I've said this, and Claire knows this. I
know I I know Gabe and Claire know this
because I I've been open about
it. You can feel icky that as a Gabe has
always been an adult in their
relationship.
You can feel icky about it, but this
woman and the people around this woman
are claiming that she is not groomed.
Until she says otherwise, I am going to
be inclined to believe her because
there's no evidence that shows that he
is abusing her. That is the
issue. They're living their life. Let it
just go. Let it let the fandom literally
die.
like when you announce that you're like
dating someone. Um, seriously, uh,
Gamer, uh, she was always going to go to
KP in my opinion. She was laundered to
KP. I Emily has no [\h__\h] Emily has no
leg to stand on. I'm being upfront.
Emily had a bigger
platform than KP ever
did. Emily is hiding behind this because
if it ever blew up negatively, she can
hide behind it. or like getting married
like you lose a bunch of followers and
for me I like you know I I had a lot of
people who spoke out and I got the vibe
that they were kind of sad that I was
off the market and I'm like okay no
offense but like as if you had a shot
like that's just kind of some of the
people in the fan base are like that but
then there are other people who were
super happy for us and they were like oh
my gosh it's amazing like I'm a fan of
both of you that's so fun like I love
seeing people who are you know
like-minded get together and like man
you guys are going to be power couples
so like that was really nice but like
this where brony fandom is how are you
still alive. Uh, this story kind of
matters to me if I'm being honest.
Access tipped
$13.37. You are a worthless bum ass
persona user. You're as valuable as FMC
in P3 Reload. I'll Zonga you and you'll
keep coming back. I'll suka Kaja and
you'll keep coming back. Why? Cuz you
smell the
marinar look in ass persona user.
Thank
you. Zero out of 10. You did not say you
were going to plow my
mom. Zero out of 10. Axis. Try again
with the next tip. A
no, but thanks, dude. Thanks. Lies is
one of those Looney people. And no
matter what I said, I realized talking
to him directly was literally met with
fire every single time. I'm like, is
there a way that you like, you know, I
don't know why you're doing this. I
don't know why you feel like you have
to. Like, I I don't know what else I can
say to like alleviate your concerns. And
then I started realizing, oh, these
aren't concerns.
characters. And then I had speculated
actually for a while um that this could
have been my own dad because my dad has
done stuff like this before. The
language was very similar. I had alluded
to some, you know, sassy remarks I made
with Brony Fand uh this account and I
was just trying to kind of gauge the
waters and I'm like, yeah, I found out
that it wasn't her dad, which is
speculation. Some people like
misinterpret that sometimes I've
noticed. Again, these are her dad.
Yeah, the Brandon Fandon is not her dad,
but like
again, and we discuss she discussed this
before that she figured out it wasn't
him. Um, again, this is Claire's own
mouth about the relationship. Publicly,
Ian distanced himself from Claire. Uh,
expressed disapproval uh of their
marriage and not being invited. Take
that as what you will. People fall out,
families fall out. Um, I'm not going to
sit here and say that I know everything
between them. I don't. Only Claire and
Ian
do. But I respect if this is how Claire
feels about her family. I have no
evidence of the contrary. Nor do I have
evidence. You can't choose your friends.
You can't choose your family. Yeah. The
the thing I can say is is that her
father admits to creating sock accounts
to harass
Gabe and by proxy Claire because it
continues it because Claire keeps
receiving the harassment when Gabe is
not responding or they feel like they
can't reach Gabe.
And I was like kind of relieved but I
also was kind of mad cuz I was like well
gang I just have like another crazy
person with the same kind of mentality
and they just want Gabe deplatformed.
And I actually DM'd them and I had a
whole conversation with him where I was
like, "All right, like I'm going to
level with you, dude. Like I I don't
know what your goal is here or your
game, but I'm fine." And I like I don't
know like why you're so angry about this
still. Like and it seems like you're
more angry the fact that I've come out
and I've said like this is not true now.
But the whole conversation, I mean, if
you if you even can read it. Um he
posted it like a while ago, but it was
basically like he said like you
shouldn't have a relationship with
minors if you're an adult at all. And
then I got curious and I started doing
some research and from literally like
almost no effort at all of of research,
I was like, "Oh, okay. This person had
like a role playing account. They
deleted a bunch of their uh they deleted
a bunch of Claire did her homework stuff
that they used to like communicate with
me. Um that is like no longer um on uh X
anymore. Um but they used to communicate
with me. So I'm like so what is it that
you feel so guilty or bad about talking
to minors? Not even not even adding the
words sexually to this or inappropriate.
Literally just you cannot talk to
minors. And so it was very creepy to me
quite honestly that he started saying
stuff like this. And the more that you
saying that, then I started looking into
it and I was like, "Okay, the fullcon
thing, like I'm sorry if you're
normalizing, I don't care what it is. If
you're drawing a freaking cabinet and
you're sexually attracted to a cabinet
and you say that the cabinet is four
years old, that's really creepy. I don't
care what that thing is. If it is
underage and it is being sexualized and
you're buying or commissioning that as
porn, that is predator behavior." And I
think that he's totally projecting
because I don't know. Oh, I'm I I I I
know that I don't like just like
throwing things around, especially
because I know what it's like to be have
these words thrown at me and my own
husband, but that's pretty pedophilic
behavior and it's normalizing
sexualizing young people and children
and it's disgusting. There there's no
there's no loophole there. You don't get
to defend why your thing is slightly
different and not okay and not hurting
people. Well, guess what, brony fan
don't? You're hurting me. How about
that? You're hurting me. Now you've hurt
one person. So, is that going to make
you stop getting commissioned freaking
underage cartoon porn? again. We showed
you the highly highly censored
version and even that is [\h__\h] vile.
Probably not because there's going to be
something else that you're going to
defend about it the next time. I'm just
I'm sick of this. So sickening. This
story is one of the call is coming from
inside the house. The weirdest things I
have ever covered. When I began, I
expected it to be a fairly simple tale
about some girl who had a grudge against
another content creator and was prepared
to go to any lengths to ruin him. I did
not expect to be having conversations
with the voice actresses from My Little
Pony and dealing with a conspiracy to
ruin their lives that seemingly has been
running for years now. But as we've got
through all the conspirators, I guess
it's time for some final thoughts on
this entire mess. Firstly, let's return
to KP. During my interviews with her, I
said I didn't really know where I came
down on whether this was malice or
stupidity. And I actually don't know
really if that's changed. I think it's
probably decent quantities of both. One
thing I will point out, KP has been very
forthcoming with information and does
seem legit. Again, KP,
you can still be stupid and malicious.
Yeah, for KP's
credit, KP is the only person that gave
us information. Whether you s say it's
to save our own skin, completely fine.
Saber is the only one who could judge
KP truthfully. Um whether he pursues
litigation or not, I have no clue. Uh
not a question I asked. uh not one I
could divulge even if I did but uh not a
question I asked so it's up to them
legitimately remorseful whether these
are genuine feelings a response to being
thrown under the bus or an attempt to
avoid being sued into oblivion I'll
leave up to you but what I've
experienced with KP largely lines up
with what other people have said to me
about her she is fairly lost and fairly
clueless turning up to our first
conversation kind of bake KP probably
did Chris dirty the worst
uh yes and no I've looked this up in DA
game stuff. I don't like that Chris is
in is somewhat involved in that. Not
necessarily the same level. Uh I Chris
should have just never said it. Let's be
real. Uh Chris should have never said
what he said. I don't think he should
have been dragged for as long as he
did, but like he didn't need to say
that. He did it and it got back to her
and he had to face the ramifications.
Now, her continuing it is psychotic, but
that's not necessarily her fault.
Well, that is her fault. Yeah, her
fault, but it's it's let me rephrase
that. She She doesn't have to She
doesn't have to be
She doesn't have to forgive him, but she
also doesn't have to be vindictive about
it either. Yeah, 100%. Yes, chat. We're
almost done. 6 hours. We're almost done.
Me that when I came back to her to ask
about Chris, she asked me this. Are you
cool with me coming to process to you
like in general? Like, bro, she asked
Becket for a therapy session.
Wild. I don't know. It's just B. It just
I don't want to look at anything that's
going to trigger me and then why I won't
tell me anything cuz he's going to
trigger me. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's
fine. I mean, again, I want to I want to
be clear that I'm I am making
it separation. I'm I'm no one's
therapist. For those of you looking for
some repercussions to hit KP, and I
don't blame any of you for that
position, this kind of thing is
devastating to a channel. I'm really not
sure how you actually come back from
something like this. And to be honest,
the real damage that's been done to her
is she has basically burnt all her
bridges with her old remaining friends.
And my final thought on this really is
that the only person who can judge KP
fairly is Saber Spark and how he feels
about the [\h__\h] she pulled. As a core
point to this entire thing, if there is
a lesson to be learned, it is about
evidencing the claims we are making as
creators. And I have actively avoided
including claims that I couldn't in some
way substantiate either with evidence or
additional testimonies. I have now heard
the other side of the allegations being
made by Emily, but I have largely dodged
around talking about them and her for a
very simple reason. It is not fair to me
or to you as an audience for me to be
presenting takes that will clearly have
been biased by what I now know as long
as Sabre is off the record and I have
been clear about this with him. I cannot
use what he tells me and to his credit
he wouldn't want me to. But one thing
that was pointed out to me by Lazy Bed
is that I clearly from the start had
issues with these allegations and she
felt me not highlighting this previous
bias made me slightly disingenuous. But
my Twitter hasn't gone anywhere and I
was tweeting out about this on May the
2nd before I'd even begun looking at
this.
Very rich from lazy. Very [\h__\h] rich.
But I digress in earnest. So, for the
sake of transparency, let's just go over
my thoughts and why I had issues with
this to begin with. My primary problem
with these allegations, having gone over
many like them over the years, is that
to me, Emily tells on herself. My exact
comments were, "Unless there is more,
Sabre is autistic and led her on for
like a year mind, talking about a
relationship, which is shitty, but not
cancel worthy. Plus, people are just
glossing over the fact that this is
seemingly multiple meetings and combos,
which adds a lot of gray to this." And
when we come to the actual statement, we
can find that Emmy is talking about
being demisexual. Multiple comments
about Sabre mentioning a relationship
and also talking about how she needed to
get over her crush because she and these
were things we highlighted when we went
over this. This seemed like a bad 9
hour. Yeah. The 9 hour cr on a 9 hour
stream that she crashed out on.
Like we went over this line by line.
just things didn't make sense and it
didn't sound like al like it sounded
like allegations of him being a [\h__\h]
boy, not a
rapist. He felt her emotions were being
toyed with. To me, and this is just my
opinion, this statement reads far more
like somebody who was pissed off and has
been pissed off for years that the guy
she liked decided not to date her. And I
say this because my experience has been
that people tell on themselves, often
unable to omit the actual reasons for
taking a particular course of action.
This is of course me just explaining my
biases and my tweets on this particular
situation. We all undeniably have these
biases whether you are on the listen and
believable victim side or the evidence
or it didn't happen side. Truthfully,
most people are going to fall somewhere
in the middle of that spectrum. The
issue only really comes when people are
trying to ruin each other's lives based
on hearsay. And once again, hopefully
for the final time now, I don't know the
truth behind these allegations. Whether
it is Saber Spark or Black Griffin,
nobody does except for the people
directly involved. I am also not
unsympathetic if there are real victims
and the well has been poisoned because
the people who are handling those claims
have been brutally discredited. In fact,
you'll notice that I barely talk about
the DA games accusations because from
what I've seen of it, it might have some
legs. And because KP's video is so so
bad, that particular well has yet to
actually be poisoned cuz most people
don't even realize that that's what her
video was about. So, if there is
something there, I hope somebody
competent looks into it. If you've
enjoyed
this video, it does help the channel and
I do appreciate it. Thanks to all our
current subscribers and members,
particularly those at Molding Level,
Chel May, Based Hos, Seance, Letters of
Sky, Corvis, Cabal, Rotting Brain, Dr.
Zeus, Hippo, Stationary Name, Hing, and
Star Sprinter. But before I go, I want
to leave you with one thing which is
kind of just for me because there is an
absurd which has lived rentree in my
hand. However, as most of us are aware,
there's a darker side of Phantom, which
we know pretty well to Mrs. Oliver and
Miss Libman. Great. All right. All
right. So, I'm pretty sure you're aware
of Princess Leia being portrayed as a
tyrant, an internet troll, and god
forbid a molester. Molester,
keep this, dude. There's there's a
literal kid behind you. Like,
what are you saying that for? We wait
for it. And the reason I have to bring
this up is because this young lady on
stage sat next to Peter. They did cut
his mic. They ripped the mic out of his
hand. Funny enough, is Michelle. And I
actually There's Michelle right there. A
panelist gets up on stage and asks you
about your opinions. I'm dying. I knew
he was going to ask her. I'm [\h__\h] I'm
laughing so hard because I've already
seen this quip this clip like twice at
this point and I literally cannot
breathe
on Princess Celestia being depicted as a
tyrant, an abuser, and a molester. Do
you have any memory of this? Zero. I'm
telling you, I have zero memories from
convention almost at all. They all blur
together. I even showed it to her and
she couldn't even identify which
convention it took place at, which if
anything kind of wraps this story up
quite nicely. These events from a decade
or so ago mean so much to so many
people, but for those involved, this was
just their job. As always, more content
to come. Peace, man.
W Becket. Uh Wbecket. Obviously, I can't
reike the video. Um, but obviously I
I'll just reload it to see if there's
any like interesting comments. Ryan
Drummond,
there I am, chat. Look at all Can Can
Poppy Diesel talk about this too? Yes,
Poppy Diesel could talk about it. I He
doesn't know the research though. No, he
was busy. He was busy doing some stuff.
The team was split. We were split. We
This was a Yeah, I'm trying to see if
anybody from the the either side has
said anything. No, I think we're pretty
much good for right now.
Um I will here here's what I will say.
Uh let me get let me get to the the
title card real quick. Uh yeah, I know.
I know. I know. It's doing the
thing. Uh let me be honest. Uh I can't
be per I like I said I can't be
unbiased. Uh I know too much about the
information.
Um I could be impartial because I do
know it and I try to uh be as impartial
as humanly possible uh when it comes to
research.
Um but here here's the thing. Uh I agree
with Becca. There's no way for me to
know what Saber Spark and what Black
Griffin did or did not do. And I'm going
to talk to the audience a little bit.
I'm going to stare at you,
chat. But that doesn't mean that they
did because of a quantity of evidence
because none of it is
qualitative. That has been the problem
with this story. And the victims at the
center of this, the perceived victims
Michelle and Claire have been constantly
silenced, looked down upon, and
belittled by the
opposition. That to me has been the
greatest injustice of this entire story.
Not to be soy, but it is like what it
is. Um,
uh, let me just say this. As much as I
don't want these allegations to be true
because that would imply a victim is
actually affected by him. I wish uh Mr.
Gamer, you could just say it's Emily, we
know it's Emily. Uh the mouse five I
it's it's we know it's Emily. Uh we knew
it was Emily far before uh the
information came out. Like right after
it, we knew we're just like not telling
anybody. A lot a lot of people were like
knew and weren't weren't like saying it,
I guess.
And to Sabre's credit, if Emily is
correct, and Sabre could put two and two
together, Sabre also probably knew and
did not out her on purpose to respect
her
privacy.
Julie, you were here, Julie. Hello,
Julie. Oh, hi and bye, Julie.
Bye, Julie. Good to see you. Good to see
you. We're definitely going to be
covering I I definitely want to cover
all all the stuff with the Heaton uh
stuff. Uh, [\h__\h] that [\h__\h] But that's a
different story for a different day. Um,
yeah, lurkers. Always love our lurkers.
Uh, but yeah, I do. You guys have any
other thoughts? I I like it's it's weird
because I was like it's weird like I
feel like I'm watching myself in a weird
[\h__\h] fashion because it is like a lot
of the stuff that this was kind of the
director's commentary in the sense even
though the video is not on on our
channel. But um yeah. Uh, no. W video, W
becket, W op. Um, just really just
looking at it as much going into it more
than [\h__\h] like any of the accusers
and the accusers who are not the victims
essentially. You know what I mean? Like
um uh I'm really glad you got uh you got
uh recordings with uh Claire and was it
Michelle? Yes. Yes. Or Michelle's the
friend, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who
lived with Gabe? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I'm really glad you guys got those. Um
surprising that you you are the only
people or you specifically other person
reaching out to people like is what you
know Yeah. From what I can understand,
people reached out, but I think what it
was is that commentary really like put
it on the map to reach out. Um and that
was like a big part like a sticking
point.
Um, I Yeah, this is a little bit of a
director's commentary. I'm sure Beckett
will have uh his own commentary on it.
So, go check out when Becket eventually
streams on this if he does.
Um, it it this was a real big labor. I
wouldn't say labor of love. Um, it was
just a labor. Um, but I I'm very
grateful for the experience doing this.
Uh, I uh yeah, I yapped my way into this
for real. Um, would you recommend
Persona 3 to these? [\h__\h] you. Would you
recommend Persona 3 to these people?
Yes, I would. Invoke your Persona now.
Um, no, it wasn't a labor of hate. Uh, I
I'll be very honest.
Um, I said this uh before. I've said
this publicly on Twitter. Uh, I've said
this to uh Becket and Jenny privately as
well. Um I really got really enjoyed
working with them. Um I hope to do it
again in the future. Uh I think it will
happen uh just for the nature of it.
Um, I think ultimately, uh, doing
research, uh, of this kind and how we do
our streams is really beneficial for us
because I like showing you guys in real
time our thought processes and how it
like breaks down. Even when like in this
stream where we're like super prepared,
you guys see that like, hey, in real
time, I'm identifying like what's going
on. Um,
so Ash, any final lingering thoughts
before we close out?
I had a thought and Oh, okay. Uh, pay
your researchers. Yes, pay your
research. If you're pay if you're going
to have someone researched for you, pay
research because this is the quality
[\h__\h] you get. Listen, all I'm going to
say is that if you want to if you're a
content creator and you want to hire the
[\h__\h] uplock in bulk, we can work it
out. Uh, I don't mind. Uh, as as long as
long as my as long as my peoples get
[\h__\h] uh uh [\h__\h] covered in some
way, shape, and form or we have access
to the information because we are a
streaming platform. By all means, WWS's
um I I said this before, I will say this
again.
Um big shout outs to
um Ash and Killjoy. Uh yes, Cloudy as
well. Always my rock. love her to death.
Um, but Ash and Killjoy were quite
legit. These are stream all of our
streams stay up. Um, unless YouTube
tries to take it down because of what I
showed and then I will delete those
instances. Um,
uh, big shout outs to Ash and Killjoy
who literally were my [\h__\h] closest
collaborators during this process. Um,
Killjoy could tell you, uh, he and I
read every document. Uh, we [\h__\h] read
the 300 pages. We watched every video
multiple times. Um, we sat through it.
Uh, Ash was with us during that process.
Literally, I was I was I was there with
Killjoy a lot being a sounding board.
Literally losing his mind. Literally.
Uh, uh, I think super funny was, "Hey,
Ash, could you like edit this like
horror and
monstrosity against God and humankind?"
Sure.
what you saw at screen is clearly
heavily censored by Ash. Um name you can
always get a shout out.
Um will Jenny Nicholson like Jenny
Nicholson who clapped back by Claire uh
is she said nothing and did not risk a
treat. I listen I I won't hold certain
people accountable. Um, the biggest part
of this story
is there's a lot of personal bad blood
in the Brony
fandom that it's hard
just to to piggyback off that with
personal bad blood, you kind of have to
see who's saying what about who and the
history of of them before really
trusting wholesale what it is they're
You don't want
to you you don't you don't want
to run with with a story if you can't
really vet it better. Bad
blood should not be what leads your
allegations.
Yes. Cuz you know you got bad blood. No.
Ultimately bad blood should not be the
source of your allegations. um and
shouldn't be how you like do things.
Um and I think that's the thing. Um I
also want to thank uh everybody involved
with this
um to Sabers Spark for actually giving
me the time of day. Oh, like we had like
multiple conversations uh emails that
are privy only to me. Um
uh but thanks for I guess letting me
talk to you. Uh to
uh Claire, Michelle, Casey, Henry. Oh,
well for Casey and Henry. Uh thank you
guys for speaking to us. Uh I don't like
I don't know why I'm doing this. Like
I'm the one that like Well, I did speak
with Casey. Like you're dying. Yeah, I
spoke with Henry like Henry like very
briefly, but I spoke with Casey a little
bit.
Um, and to Claire and Michelle,
um, uh, who will let us speak to them.
Uh, I hope for the audience sake that
you guys just listen to them. Whether or
not you feel any kind of way about it, I
have my own opinions. You can have your
own opinions.
Um, but, uh, I think Claire and
Michelle's testimony should stand on its
own.
And that everybody is the end of the
stream. I'm gonna send you guys over to
MRO if he's still streaming. Um yeah,
he's covering the camera and stuff. When
you guys go into MRO stream, if you're
going to get transferred over to MRO, I
need you to do one thing for me. Uh uh
please put in when you guys get raided
over Cameron uh uh gangraped. I would
just like Cameron gangraped in. I don't
think they can chat. I don't think they
can chat until 10 minutes or does No.
Oh, they're not subbed. [\h__\h] That's
right. Uh, but if you're subbed to Mr.
Do the thing. By no means do you forced
to sub anybody? But I think that it's
really funny. Go to the Discord. Uh,
Ebra is a Moral is someone we know from
this from the streaming. Uh, he's
covering Cameron F305. So, if you don't
care about Cameron F305, attached the
most chaotic human being. Yeah, Mal is
very chaotic. Uh, yeah. If you don't
want to cover F uh Cameron F305, you
don't have to. I'm going to go in there
and just make fun of Cameron for like 20
seconds. Uh but yes, good night
everybody. Thank you guys so much. Oh,
thanks Dickers for the raid, too. Thank
you Dickers for the raid again. Thank
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