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Hello chat. Hello. Hello. Hello chat.
How we doing?
We're going to be going live in a little
bit, but it's so so nice to see each and
every one of you.
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Yeah. chat. Yes. Yes. Yes. We're in a
little bit of a jazzy mood. This is an
early early stream.
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Hey, Lazy. How you doing?
Do I know why I'm doing the jazz voice
right now, chat? I have no idea.
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Yes, Chad.
You like jazz?
I like jazz.
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Yes. Yes. Yes. Hello. Hello. Hello. Oh
god, the brightness. The sun. The sun is
is shining on a fine fast and
fantabulous. Uh what's the It's a Sunday
evening. Hello. Hello. Hello and
everybody. Welcome, welcome back to the
outlog. I'm your host Falgaex, your
onestop shop for everything commentary,
news, and research on the internet. One
day I'll consider making a consistent
and real
intro. But today is not one of those
days. I'm always here. I'm always there.
I'm always everywhere. You know, today's
one of those days where I was like, you
know, it's a lazy bed head video. I got
to do my hair in a lazy bed head
fashion. Where's my video, Fal?
>> Yen, I don't know. Where is my video?
Yen, that's absolutely correct. Yen,
where is my video? I have not seen it in
my timeline. You could tell Aunt and you
could tell Ace that I'm still waiting
for their videos as well as yours. I
don't know where it is. I don't make
videos. Actually, that's not true. I did
make one video. That is true. I did I
did technically make one video. Uh the
rest have just been VODs. Uh, but that's
all. Hey, middleman. How you doing? How
you doing, guys?
>> Fouchy, I'm here for you.
>> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Doing
my hair this lazy bedhead fashion. What
does that mean? Well, it's your name is
Lazy Bed Head. So, I just put I just did
a little bit of teasing to make it a
lazy bed head kind of day. I'm waiting
on VA lines. Wow. Doesn't ask me. I see
how it is.
Yes. Yes.
>> Lord Rush became a member. Lord Rush
celebrates one month of membership. Wow.
Cool thumbnail. I wonder who drew it.
Green heart emoji.
>> If you guys haven't seen the thumbnail,
uh Lord Rush uh sent us a thumbnail.
Well, let let's retract a little bit. I
asked Lord Rush if I could grab his
artists uh who have shown Bonk in
different fashions uh rendition because
I think it's really cute. I think it's
really interesting. I also think that
he's insane and crazy. Um
that excuse me Bonk is to think that all
of this art means that like multiple
people are going to cause violence to
him. Like it's not an art contest that
was with money. Bonk thinks that it's
like fascism. By the way, I know he's
tagged in this video. I tag Bonk every
time we do a Saber Spark video, hoping
you'll come back to me. But yes, if you
are somehow in the thumbnail because you
are an artist or you're lazy head for
instance, it's amazing. Shout outs to
Ash as always who does all of our
thumbnails. Amazing amazing thumbnail
art as usual.
Uh, do you want to voice the pedto
Fouchy? Is the pedo the main character?
Cuz then yeah, sure. I don't [\h__\h]
give a [\h__\h]
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You guys think I care? Like if you asked
me to voice your video, I did it. That's
hilarious.
Fousy craves Bonk and VC. It's Bonk is
an interesting person. We're going to
talk about some of the tweets that he
made leading up to the release of the
video. what he made the same day of the
video's release that has nothing to do
with the video overall.
And then we're going to go to some of
the crash out afterwards because if you
people don't know, two of my favorite
people on the internet have crashed out.
Bonk
and Courtney Pete.
And
listen, listen. If you if you've been at
this channel long enough, you already
know my feelings on Courtney P, aka
Please tie my shoes. I think that's what
her channel name is. [\h__\h] That lady's
crazy. She's insane.
Hey, Redheaded. Thank you so much.
>> Redheaded YouTuber became a member.
Redheaded YouTuber celebrates one month
of membership. Wow.
>> Thank you so much, Redhead. Thank you.
Thank you. It's It's one of the like the
funniest things on the internet is just
like all of this stuff. Uh
uh uh Cal, the second one uh or the If
you want to do the full team one, you
can. I'm sorry I missed your DM.
Um
what was I gonna say? What was I gonna
say? Uh
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Ace, why are you messaging me, brother?
I'm right here. I'm right here. You
could have just you could just come in
to stream. I'm not even leaking DMs, but
it's funny. But it's super funny because
like I I've only I only went to Cat's
Lair once to argue with Courtney because
she was like spreading nonsense like I I
had nothing to do with KP's video. I
100% had nothing to do with I love Kim
Possibles video. I don't know what
you're talking about. I I was just asked
to just talk about consent. No, evidence
shows completely otherwise. Courtney,
you [\h__\h] hypocrite.
You literally
all you did in your mind was, "Oh, I'm
just helping this kid." Quote, even
though this person was never a kid and
they're I believe the same age. No, you
in you said to KP, which was directly
related to Emily, "Hey, I think you I
think she should take out the part about
implied consent." And remember remember
Courtney Pete is the same person who
espouses that listen implied consent
doesn't exist. But if you flash your
titties at a live event to the rockar
barring the rockstar's consent or even
sexual preference, that is consent.
That's the real implied consent. Now
listen, we'll have to have that
conversation of, okay, yes, the implied
consent uh uh statement has been used to
try to get out of of rape scenarios and
things like that, scenarios of essay and
all of those things. Yes, but that's not
the case when it comes to inferred body
language, previous discussions,
a alone relationship, the fact that it
was, in my opinion, incredibly obvious
that Emily and Saber had a relationship
that was leading to something sexual and
continued after the fact because why
would you do it a second time? And also,
why would you continue to message him
very lovingly and caringly and asking
why he unfollowed you? Please, I'm
lonely. Can you please text me?
Again, this is not like this is not one
of those moments where both of them were
drunk or or or Saber took advantage of
her and dragged her into the room, which
is what Courtney in my head still I
still believe Courtney just believes
that because this is the same person
who's like, "Well, if you desend you
defend uh Saber, you're a pedo and rape
apologist." was just [\h__\h] insane to
say, "Hey, the Black Griffin information
is really shoddy because the person who
is throwing this information out there
is a [\h__\h] psychopath."
>> Rosie Puyo became a member. Rosie Puyo
celebrates two months of membership.
Someone needs to make a smooth operator
edit of throws dart at boardcat. I'm
manifesting it now. YouTube is censoring
me.
>> That's very funny. It's very, very
funny. It wouldn't let me send operator.
That's weird. I don't know why.
Uh, and yeah, and Courtney continues to
downplay her involvement, which Oh, god.
The sun. You know what? [\h__\h] it. The
sun. The sun will just be there. The sun
will come out tomorrow. Let your bottom
dollar tomorrow.
I actually don't know the rest of those
words.
Um, hold up. Let me can I turn this
light off? Yeah, if I turn the uh if I
God I am in the God I God is behind. God
is with me. Chat, if you needed to know,
God is with me in this stream. Bonk,
wherever you are, God is with me. He is
not on your side.
But yes, Courtney has been running
around saying like the craziest things,
literally lying, right? like describes
and understands that body language is
involved in consent and is like but it
saying it doesn't.
>> The weaver of dreams became a member.
The weaver of dreams celebrates seven
months of membership. Unravel the
bongspiracy.
Seven months already. Wow.
>> Damn. Seven months. Weaver. You've been
here like since day one. Jesus Christ.
Can you write an anti brony musical FG?
Uh
we're going to put him in the glue.
going to go to the factory. I don't know
any words to this goddamn song, but the
bronies ain't roaming free.
I That's all I got right now. I'd have
to like do actual work. And I And I
don't write music. I've never written
music. That was not my like not my
talent, not my uh my area of expertise.
So,
but yes. Yes, chat. We have a lot to
cover. I know Lazy's in the in the chat.
Uh, let's make some full disclosures
before we begin. Uh, I've been talking
to Lazy Bedhead recently. Um, very nice
person to talk to. Very, very pleasant.
Um, it's been interesting because we
both were like, "Huh, really?" Like, we
I had major criticisms of you. And she's
like, "Yeah, I understand. I understand.
Hey, Greg. What's up?" Hey, buddy. I
missed you. I missed you. Where have you
been, Greg? I missed you. I watched I
watched Superman. I told you.
>> Oh, that's right. How was it?
>> It was fine.
>> I I mean, it was woke, you know.
>> Was it woke? Uh, do you feel Do you
Okay, so Greg, here's my question to
you.
>> Is
Superman an immigrant?
>> He's an immigrant. He's canonically an
immigrant. He He's an immigrant from
He's a He's a literal alien from another
planet.
from an exploded planet. He's a refugee.
He's a refugee from another planet from
a from a natural occurring disaster or a
self self-imposed natural occurring
disaster. Who's to say? I don't know. Um
he was raised by American by by an
American family. He's still American.
He's an immigrant and he is American.
You can be both. But do you think that
Lex is right in deporting Superman?
>> Uh, Lex Luthther's interesting because
because his his angle is always been
like humanity has to stand on its own.
We have to be for better or worse. We we
are the only ones that can save us. And
Superman
>> is is of Earth. He's, you know, he's
he's of both worlds. And he's still
trying to show the people. He's not
Superman doesn't want to be a leader. He
wants to show the people how to be
better.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And Lex Luthther thinks humanity will
have to do it regardless of who shows
them how to do it.
>> Yeah. I I think that's like something
really interesting that people always
misinterpret about Lex.
>> Oh, hey Leia. How you doing? Why are you
mogging from the corner?
>> Why are you mogging behind Greg?
>> She doesn't like that I'm here.
>> No, she doesn't like that you're here.
Uh but like that's like the whole thing
is like um
uh Jesus Christ.
>> I'm sorry. Sorry, I got
>> I got chat. I got sent something.
>> All All I could say is I can't believe
the same person who's crashing out is
still crashing out. Oh, that's funny.
Um, no, it's like super interesting
though because I think a lot of people
like misinterpret Lex over time unless
you've been like and and it's uh for
those who don't know, the newest
Superman movie is inspired by the
Smallville show. Uh, and it's something
I actually grew up with. I think Greg,
we're around the same age, so we both
would have grew up with it.
>> Uh, so that was everywhere. I just did
not watch it because I wasn't as when I
was younger, I wasn't into superheroes
and specifically Superman. But as I've
gotten older, I've I've enjoyed
>> uh Superman more and more.
>> Yeah. And I think that's really
interesting because for for James Gunn,
he's in he's inspired by the comics. for
Nicholas Holt and David Kornsweet, they
watched Smallville. So, they look at
their entire interaction as the
Smallville characters, which for those
who don't know, uh Smallville was an
American television show that was uh
more about the teen years of uh Clark
Kent becoming Superman and his best
friend was Lex Luthther. And they had a
really really interesting dynamic
because it's out of the the era of Lex
being comically evil. And like Greg
said, Lex being far more um far more
interesting as this individual that sees
an alien and sees the overpoweredness of
an alien figure and is like, but
humanity needs to stand on its own. If
humanity doesn't stand on its own,
nobody will. and we will be controlled
one day. And so like Lex is a far more
complex character than
>> Oh yeah.
>> than I think I I like I get it. Like
when the whole DEI oh my god um uh
Superman is an uh is an immigrant story
came out, I was like h people are going
to say like people are now going to say
that they wrote Lex as a conservative.
And I'm like no no that's that's not
what's being said. It's Lex literally
has the idea.
Um, but it's like super super
interesting. No, I'm not I'm not
spoiling Rush.
>> No, we're we're talking about them in
general.
>> Yeah. Like this is like this is this is
important preamble because the story of
of uh Smallville mattered to the actors
playing the parts. Does it clap though?
Gilla, you know it's claps. It is
America's ass after all.
Rule of thumb for DC shows/m movies.
Yeah, you know you has an issue if you
have to hide the actors faces on movie
posters because the actors keep
changing.
>> That's funny.
>> It is. It is.
>> Thank you again.
>> The crash out is real.
>> Angie, thank you. Thank you. The crash
is real.
>> Uh
>> Tusky
>> Tusky, thank you for the five.
>> Wow. Did you all hear about the werewolf
YouTuber? He's a lick and subscribe.
>> If your guy doesn't appreciate fresh
fruit puns, let that mango. Wow. Wow.
Wow.
>> How did you know? How did you know that
TTS would say man go? Tusky. Tusky. How
do you Tusky? How do you do this?
>> Do you test these? You have You have to
test these beforehand.
>> Yeah. Like Oh god, guys. We already hit
the dodo goal. [\h__\h]
>> Wow.
>> It's cuz I'm here.
>> Yeah. Oh god. Ace with the 20. Jesus
Christ.
>> Thank you.
>> You need that for cigarettes.
>> Cigarette.
>> Cigarette emoji.
>> Oh, it does actually do it.
>> That's awesome. All right, chat. You
know what time it is before we begin.
It's time to feed that dog. If you're
new around here at the OBlock, we feed
that dog. So, one, a two, a one, two,
three, four. It's time to feed the
puffers. It's already on the bed. It's
time to feed the dog now
at the uplock stream tonight. Yes,
everybody. It's time out. Holy [\h__\h] She
just Oh, she just she just grabbed it.
She didn't even give me time.
She She What? What is wrong with you?
You're such a little gavon. Like, Jesus
Christ.
>> No slurs, please.
>> Not a slur, Len. Is Gavon a slur? You
tell me in the chat.
Oh, but yes, everybody, she is she is
like ready. Uh, but thank you guys very
much. You guys won another goal. We're
going to get to everything. But yeah,
I'm really interested. Oh god. Yen,
>> thank you. Thank you. Oh no.
>> Time to annoy Falga. Raised eyebrow
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>> Ace. Thank you for the 49, buddy.
>> Cigarette emoji.
>> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Jesus
Christ. You kept saying it in like six
different ways and I was so
>> That was exhausting.
>> Incredibly confused.
>> Oh, that was this is perfect.
Oh, I like this. We'll get there. We'll
get there. We'll get there. Um, but that
is so Wait, when will it end? It'll
never end. But yes, we have Lazy's bed
heads uh video to uh to discuss. We have
all the fallout. Oh god.
>> Wow.
>> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
>> Thank every very kind on this Sunday. I
think everyone's checks are hitting
early. I don't know.
>> Wait, I have something sad to report.
>> Huh?
>> I have something actually sad to report.
I read somewhere and I just listened to
Do you know Nova Online's uncle died?
The one that beat his [\h__\h] in about
being online.
>> No.
>> Yeah. His uncle just died.
>> And I'm just like sad.
>> That is so sad. Sad.
>> I was like I I was watching it. He's
like, "Oh yeah, I we think his uncle
died cuz he posted it." And I'm just
like, "No, he was the only thing
stopping him."
>> The limiters are gone. Full nova.
>> No,
>> you never go full nova.
>> Uh, do you know that? Yes, I do know
about the Pokemon VA also that that
passed away. Yes.
>> Yeah. Yeah. His only positive influence,
the uncle that like actually Yeah. Uncle
Gage's dad allegedly his uncle died.
>> Lazy knows all the crazy lords.
>> Oh yeah. Oh, so I've been talking to
Lazy. So yeah, I I was saying it before.
>> Well, me and Lazy are best friends. So
So there's that. So I'm that. So
>> you're such a [\h__\h] Yeah. So I've
been I've been I've been talking to Lazy
behind the scenes. Obviously, we've had
really nice conversations. Lazy loves
lookouts, by the way. It's super funny.
Ah, this Nova arc is going to be
upsetting. Yeah. Yeah. And I really hope
it's not bait. Alle like allegedly you
put a post out. Um, I really hope it's
not bait because that would be [\h__\h]
up, Nova, if you did that. Like, for
real, for real. I like I understand
people are coming to your home and
bothering you, which I don't What do we
say, chat? We don't touch the poo. We've
talked about this. It's like it's just a
line we don't cross, but it is it is
crazy. It is weird. Um, Falgi, your
thoughts on Deathstroke being adapted
into an anti-hero? Personally, he's not
like us.
Okay, here's the thing. I agree.
I agree all the time,
but Deathstroke was written by a person
who thought that would be the most
villainous thing to do. I don't I I I
always have like this weird thing where
it's like I don't hate characters.
I hate like the weird um writers who
think that that's like the greatest idea
ever to make like a random person.
Slade. Yeah. Slade the Diddler. I know.
But it's like H. Yeah. It's very
bizarre, very weird. And I just like
God, do I hate everything on planet
Earth that makes that a real thing.
>> How do you feel about Titans way more
harrowing?
>> H
>> that makes Teen Titans way more
harrowing.
>> Well, well, I mean like Tara, he he
canotically like has sex with Tara.
>> That's why I said it. I I said the thing
without having to say this.
>> I mean, some people may not know. Some
people may not know.
I hate everything. Why? Why? Why are we
here? Why? Why, Delila?
Yes. For those who don't know, in the
comics, like it is heavily implied
that Slade grooms Terara. It's like
heavily implied.
And it's yeah, it's not a fun thing to
know about a character that I like from
a show that is agnostic from that lore.
Bro, he got Robin.
Embry, what are you saying? Robin's also
a minor. What are you say? What are you
doing? But yes, it's implied he kisses
her. Yeah. No, but it the the other
there's a lot more implied. Majunga, you
know that as well as I do.
Um, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Okay. Okay. Okay. We're going from from
one pedophile to another pedophile,
Brony Fanone, Wootmaster, all that
nonsense. So,
for those who don't know, Brony Fandon
has been back on the internet for a
period of time saying all the craziest
[\h__\h] on the internet. And I think it's
about time that we get back to it
because my man is like legitimately I
think he's going joker mode. I think
he's going crazy. I think he's losing
his mind. I think we finally broke brony
fan. Let me pull it up on screen so even
Greg can see it because Greg here is is
always he is always availed to the
trauma.
Is this his junkler arc? No, don't do
that to Hamilton. I like listen and I
made up. We never had a beef, but
Hamilton and I made up.
Let's Let's go.
>> The one-sided beef has been made.
>> Yes, the one-sided beep been vanquished.
He's posted more.
Oh no. Lazy. Lazy.
No.
Oh no. He can't stop. This is about
Becket, by the way. Oh, I've always been
blocked, guys. Here's the fun fact. Lazy
bed. Lazy, excuse me. Boach will never
say my name.
>> Terra wondererved what she got. Terra 2
was way better.
>> Yes, Teru. Terara 2 is cool. Um, but
yes, for those who don't know, Brony Fan
don't will never say my name again
because he's too afraid of me. He He has
done the jar thing. For those who don't
know, for those who are new to the
channel, just a robot is afraid of me.
Literally behind the scenes has asked
about meas
never talked to me once. The boner
should also be the boner.
>> Um, the boner is a coward. So, the the
boner rises.
>> Let's think too. I I would want Brony
Fandone on the on the milk goddess, but
I don't want two horses on there.
>> Do you
>> That's me personally.
>> That's That's true. We We do have Oh, do
you have the milk goddess that I could
send to somebody real quick so they know
what it looks like?
>> It's It's pinned.
>> It's pinned. I I would just have to grab
it.
>> I'll send it to you.
>> Yeah, cuz I'll show it cuz I think Lazy
Bet I think Lazy would appreciate it.
So, let's read it. He can't stop living
up to his namesake, every response,
every excuse, and not well-hidden
desperation for validation.
Anyways, I'm going to stop talking about
them, unless something actually
important needs addressing. Lazy threw
her career away to help abusers. At
least Enter started with having nowhere
to go but up. When public sentiment
changes or Griffin is in jail, don't let
them.
>> This is a call to action,
>> dude. Oh my god, my man is so insane.
Greg, thank you.
>> Uh, for those who are also new here,
community artist, but Jungle Wa drew our
goddess. She is a milk goddess. She is
wonderful. She is beautiful and every
single LOL cow has a place. You have
Dansbururst, Chrischan, Boogie, Tipster.
We might actually have to replace
Tipster with Bowax.
>> You know, that's a good point.
>> You know, I'm not going to lie. We may
have to replace Tipster with Bolaxs.
>> And underneath that is a spot for like a
uh another horse.
>> Yes. Another So maybe
>> maybe Fouchy F. Like maybe it's what did
Len make?
>> Lord Blush Rush tipped $4.20. I just
wanted to say thank you to the OP block
and this community for all the
encouragement and support that I've
received on my art.
>> It truly means more than you know. Green
Fali, I have a gift for you. Check DMs.
>> I I rush you. I I have it. I have it. I
have it. I have it. I have it. I have
it. We're going to get to it.
>> Thank you.
>> But thank you. But here, are you talking
about this? My favorite piece of art
because we'll get this is bonk just
speaking into the ether because there's
so much bonk tent that I didn't
>> It's so good. Like Rush has really
gotten like this like surrealism down
pat now. It's so funny. Like this one
and this one are hilarious. Fishy, you
haven't DM'd me anything.
Now you've DM'd me something.
Okay, you DM'd me this. Yes, you've DM'd
the bonk.
You literal fishy. You literal spur. I
love you.
>> But yes,
>> actually the goddess art is insane work
for real. Yeah. Uh Majung Majungle Womba
in our chat uh made this. This is like
the first fan art we like ever got.
>> Um
>> the first I think one of the first.
>> One of the first. Yeah.
>> And this is the one of the most insane
things that we have ever got.
>> Um, and it's like so nice. But yes, B is
going crazy.
>> So Lazy, uh, you've killed your career.
I hope you know that. Now B is Twitter.
>> Bon has been doing this weird thing
where he is now republishing all of the
Black Griffin information. But here's
something really interesting that you
may or may not know.
If you are aware, Bonk is republishing
all of the the Black Griffin um
arguments in the order that I and
Beckett have said are most damning.
He published the Deviant Art stuff
first, which we keep saying is the most
damning because nothing else has proof.
So, I find this to be incredibly
hilarious. Uh, it goes to his doc also
publishes the the Snapchat that doesn't
make any sense. It doesn't prove
anything. Um, this is more about
information about Black Griffin
allegedly being flirtatious, but we have
no proof of
Tusky. Thank you so much.
>> Thank you.
>> I test them on my coworkers. No TTS.
>> I have become the Punny Produce Clark. A
perfectionist walked into a bar.
Apparently, it wasn't set high enough.
>> Also,
>> amazing.
>> Thank you. This like random account from
Sabers Spark. uh the random account
that's like alleging like stuff from
Saber Spark. Um
that like none of us have any um
and none of us have any like reference
to or anything like that. Uh but like
this is like implied because of my crush
or my willingness. I feel like this is I
believe this may be Emily's first
response that was like privated in DMs
and things like that. Oh my god, Yen.
raised eyebrow emoji.
>> Thank you. But what's really interesting
about this is that Emily has soft walked
this back already. She's already walked
this back in Beckett's interview with
her and then her later statement when
more evidence came out that she was
lying about how involved they were.
That's the whole thing. And that's like
the weirdest part of this is that Bonk
refuses to watch any of the videos. Now,
I will say this before we start. Um,
we're going to be watching all of Lazy
Bedhead's video, not all of her
interview with Bonk. The biggest reason
being, they're both three and a half
hour videos. Lazy Bedhead is trying to
kill me. Lazy, why are you trying to
kill me? Why are you trying to kill
Greg? Do you not want me to have a life?
Do you want me to die on stream?
So, we're not doing that. I am not uh I
do not want to talk to Courtney in any
way. That person is a [\h__\h]
psychopath. But again, this goes back
into some of the Destiny Doodle stuff.
Again, the Black Griffin jokes with
Saber Spark also on stage where it's
just like a weird like whose line is it
anyways?
Uh, we will also go over um some of
these uh lazy bedhead uh DMs when we get
into the interview portion of this of
the program, but I want to get into this
part because this part was insane and I
want Greg to read this. I'm going to
tell a story. I feel that it's not only
something people need clarified, but
it's extremely relevant to everything.
Years ago, I knew someone who went by
Zeb Demon/plot
luck. At the time, they were dating
Wootmaster. They could very uh they
could be very short with people, but
also help people in tough situations.
Something else they did was fight on
behalf of NSFW content as a means of a
better outlet for those with harmful
urges. No, I am not one of those people.
I thought it was something
controversial, but good. a topic that
makes people too uncomfortable to
actually think about, but one that might
lessen harm. At the very least, it
didn't seem like it could do additional
harm. Later, I was in a call with her
and another person. She started telling
a story from when she was a minor about
her adult boyfriend. Ew. And how it was
all right because she was mature for her
age. Ew.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It gets worse.
>> It only gets worse.
>> She said how it was I've only read the
first tweet where he says I'm going to
tell the story. She said how it was hard
for her to discuss it in fear of
judgment. The other person comforted
her, telling her it was okay. I didn't.
I told her that wasn't a situation the
man she was with should have ever put
her in. She got defensive and told me
she knows herself and knew that she was
mature enough then, not even a teen yet
to handle it. Not even a teen yet.
>> What?
>> I told her I told her that only proves
she isn't mature now either. She left.
Why didn't you call anybody? Why didn't
call anybody do anything about this
somebody?
>> Why did you wait? Why you were you also
I got to remember something. She was
telling a story when she was a minor
about her adult boyfriend. So this was
in the past. This was in the past. This
was in the past. This was allegedly in
the past.
Okay.
>> But but Brony Vand would have also been
presumably closer to this age. And so I
could I could
>> Well, well, remember he's he is 28 to be
fair. He's 28 now and he's known Woot
Master for a period of time seemingly as
an adult. I don't know how long they've
known each other,
>> but this per but but this story is
saying that this woman or this
individual was not a teen yet when they
were having this conversation.
>> No, this this was after they're telling
the story after the fact.
>> Okay.
>> From what I what I could tell because
again,
>> why would the raising of the tweet
doesn't make sense. Okay.
>> What?
>> I'm trying to I'm trying to give the
benefit of the doubt in this weird ass.
>> Have you ever considered AAB?
>> Go on.
>> Not long after that, I was in a public
argument on the timeline with with her
as she continued to push lines beyond
fiction, but still expressing it was in
most cases still bad. I know one of
whatever's whatever is this another
person. I know one of her whatever's
friends are has those messages.
Hopefully they provide them. Uh but
>> they have not been provided.
>> I just just the fact of like oh and then
later I was I was in an internet fight
with this person. Your story's already
asked. That was the day I blocked her
and moved on. More than a year later I
was at Trotcon. Go get a life. And
Mozilla art informed me on what happened
to her since then. There's another
person. Are these four people?
>> There's more people. Just keep going.
Mo Mosilla informed me on what happened
to her since then. Mozilla does not know
me. Do not harass her. We were just
talking as strangers in a shared space.
She told me how Zeb became a full-blown
proud proud. That's is that that's the
>> Zeb is the person. Yes.
>> Who dated an adult.
>> Dated Woot Master, but yes, also an
adult. Also an adult.
>> Okay. Two two different people.
>> Two different people.
>> Okay. Okay. Okay. How How Elon himself
got Oh, Flan. Is this Flan? You talking
about Elon? No, it is Elon. So, very
very openly, it's something that we
found during our investigation. Um, that
Woot Masters presumably a as Bon is
saying, exartner
>> is an out andabout pedophile, like a
map.
>> Sure.
>> As they as the kids say now, it's a
pedophile.
>> And they got banned off the platform by
Elon Musk personally.
>> Personally, right?
>> Yes. Elon saw the post and got them
banned.
>> First of all, Brody, you are not on a
firstname basis with Elon Musk. Just
call him Elon Musk. You had more more
space in this tweet. I didn't know any
of that. I was glad I cut ties before
then, but it concerned me about how last
I knew Woot was still dating her. Okay,
dude. Uh, I asked him. So, this is just
him clearing his name from Woot.
>> Yes. Well, no, this is No, this is him
clearing Woot's name.
>> Woot's name. You're an idiot. You're an
idiot.
>> [\h__\h] off. You're an idiot. You're the
biggest idiot. This is your only friend
and he's a pedophile. You're a loser.
I asked him. He said they'd long broken
up. So, I didn't worry about that. Worry
after that. Cut to today. People use Zeb
as a way of condemning Woot and
condemning me just because we knew her
before she turned out the way she did,
[\h__\h] We You introduced Zeb into
the conversation. We're talking about
the art he commissioned.
>> But it's not even just that. Woot Master
Well, Zeb is in the conversation. We we
we knew about this before. They go,
>> they were in the first video. We made
fun of them because of Wootmaster. But
here's the interesting thing.
>> We made f We identified that Woot Master
creates full con art. You even defend
it.
You even defend full We
>> You defended it here.
>> You defended it in this string of
tweets.
>> Yes. Yes. Because of the idea that the
art is just vent, which we always I will
always say this, Vent doesn't exist. I
am tired of the the verb art. It is. It
is. The ACC from my understanding has
ruined event art for everybody now
because it's like this is insane. Yeah.
Woot M. Okay.
For those who don't remember, Wootmaster
made images that I legally cannot send
to people in other countries
because it would put them in jail.
You know when everyone like complains
like, "Oh yeah, like Lily should go to
jail because she probably had like full
con or some shit." Woot Master creates
that. This is his friend. This is the
person he still defends to this day and
it's still on the guy's [\h__\h] public
Twitter timeline.
Continue, Greg.
>> But the actual timeline shows the
opposite. We did not accept what she was
doing. It wasn't okay to us. I don't
know exactly what led to their breakup,
but I cut ties before Zeb had even
gotten to the point she ended up in. I
did what I've always done, not tolerated
harm. This story also has comparisons to
Griffin. However, the things that he's
done should never have been done. But
like the third person in the call,
people are more willing to accept him
regardless because they don't consider
needing to condemn. He's nice to them.
If you're a fan or a friend, you should
still be able to condemn the heinous. At
the very least, try and push back. Maybe
get the person to change by
acknowledging it was wrong instead of
acting like it ever happened. Did you
write this? You're not reading this. You
haven't write out can't even read his
own [\h__\h] tweets.
>> Go on. Go on.
>> I said the wrong name before. I meant
Muzua Mary, not Muzilla. Okay. What?
What? You can you can delete a tweet.
>> No. No. No. You don't understand. You
don't understand.
>> Brody fanat never deletes tweets.
>> Oh my god. Bach will never delete a
tweet ever.
>> Yes, he has.
>> What do you mean? Bach has never deleted
tweets. Do you want to Do you want to
know what the best part of all this is?
Uh,
I know how this sounds, but the new
Superman movie is very weirdly parallel
to everything that's happening. And more
specifically than you might think from
me saying this, Greg, as someone who saw
the Superman movie, is Black Griffith's
[\h__\h] in the movie?
>> No, there's there's a strange absence of
[\h__\h] in the full movie.
>> Oh my god.
[Laughter]
But let's continue. This is my personal
favorite tweet of all time.
>> Am I reading it?
>> I understand that people who actually
understand enough of the situation want
me to strictly cover more information
instead of talking about the people
harassing me and everyone else who is
even slightly related. I'm working on
it. I'm not a video maker, so it's
taking time.
>> How very soy of them to compare it to
Superman.
>> How very woke of them.
It's incredibly What are you talking
about problem? You're crashing out.
Welcome to us.
>> I love the like. So, to be fair, I did
uh I did do an oopsie today, by the way.
Uh
>> you tweeted again.
I may have blue skyed that bonk. And he
immediately blocked me because he's
like, well, because he doesn't want to
watch Lazy's interview because he's
like, oh, it's probably 30 minutes of
cut up stuff. It's three and a half
hours. It took Becket 9 hours to stream.
It's going to take us nine hours to
stream this [\h__\h] video.
>> Like, what? Like, what have I said?
Like, what do you mean it's three hour?
Like, what do you mean it's 30 minutes,
you [\h__\h] [\h__\h] I mean his his
interview with Lazy, right?
>> Yes. His interview with Lazy is three
hours.
>> Why would he need to watch his own
interview though? He was there.
>> Yes, I know. I know.
>> So, he should know what he said.
>> To be fair, I b I blame beep beep on a
sheep. Chat chat, here's what you're
going to get now. Aside from if we hit
the the 20 dono goal and you get uh what
what do we say? We're going to start
doing card postings video instead of the
diapers.
>> Oh, what is what is card posting?
>> Yeah, what is card posting? chat. If we
beat the 20 donation goal, we will start
playing card postings counting videos
and then just listen to where he's
counting cuz I like him. I legit I like
Card Card's cool.
>> That's my new favorite.
>> Yeah.
>> Damn that Twitter thread looks jobless
as fool.
>> Thank you.
>> I got to hold up. I got to check
something because I have something
coming to the door. No, it's not there
yet. Uh, no. It's a drink cuz I uh I did
not have an energy drink this morning
and my brain is kind of
>> over it.
>> I had Tai tea.
>> How is the How was it? I like Tai tea
personally. It's hit or miss from
different places.
>> It's Yeah, it's true. But it's always
very sweet. Sometimes it's too sweet.
Yeah. And that's crazy coming from you
because I only I exclusively drink sweet
drinks.
>> I didn't know that. You never told me.
>> I'm not going to drink a salty drink.
>> But yes, chat. But, you know, because
we're already on Twitter and I don't
really want to wait anymore. Would you
guys like to see Courtney Pete crashing
out on the timeline?
>> No.
>> Would you guys like to see Courtney Pete
claim to fame? You know what it is?
Crashing out on the timeline.
Let's go over that.
So,
from what I understand, Courtney was
having a no good, very bad day in Lio
Convoice server.
Again, I've openly said this. Uh, I've
only ever gone to Lio's server to [\h__\h]
on court because she was just saying
nonsense. Uh, shout out to the person
who sent me these. Uh, thank you very
much, by the way.
But let's So, here here's what I've
learned about Courtney Pete. The reason
Courtney was let go from Lio server
um, was because she may have implied one
of the mods was a rapist.
>> Oh my god. Yes, because the discussion
went there about implied consent and
implied that one of the mods was a
rapist.
Now, I I do want to make this like very
very clear. We talked about this at the
top of the show. Um ha, she left. Yeah.
Um
let's let's like obviously talk about
this real quick. Um
yes, uh people get sexually abused all
the time. Uh people are assaulted. uh
the idea like consent if you have
obviously verbal consent like emphatic
consent things like that uh very very
important for sexual health and a
relationship obviously that like yeah
we're going to do the sex thing it's not
always what you're going to see in the
real world I'm going to tell you that
right now um body language also gets
involved in consent which is a part of
which Courtney doesn't believe which mod
because it wasn't me uh I know yet it
wasn't you from what I've been told it
was another God, I don't I I don't know
much. That's how it was told to me. But
all of that doesn't matter because
Courtney continues to forget that she
live on a video said showing titties is
consent. If you flash the Rockstar
titties, you are consenting for the
Rockstar to have sex with you. If you
flash the bouncer the titties, that
rockstar is still having sex with you.
No. Did the rockstar consent? Well,
guys, you don't understand. The rockstar
doesn't have to consent to that. I'm
consenting to it. Weird. Yes. If you
don't know, she made a weird argument
for rape. It's like the craziest thing
I've ever heard in my entire life.
Yes. I love giving consent by announcing
my sexual proclivities to everyone in
the room. Ah, yes. I would love to have
the sex now. Yes, consent is incredibly
complicated, but it's like usually
obvious in the moment. Yes, we are not
talking about an actual case of of
individuals who are, you know, abused
and taken advantage of when they're
under the influence or or purposely
drugged um or or violently, you know,
violently taken. This was not the case
with Saberspar. It just wasn't it wasn't
consider the story wasn't consistent
enough. But let's look at what Courtney
would say. So, some of these are out of
order. So, I do apologize. I think the
first two are out of order and then the
rest are in order. So, Greg, why don't
you read
the big one?
Back when I first started speaking out
about my sister, I had a number of minor
minors hitting me up for advice and help
and and help. Help and advice I gave
where I could because I've actually
raised a kid for almost a decade and
have actually had to handle tough
conversations with a child. So, I gave
advice and help where I felt I could.
Had a 14-year-old message me asking me
if they were broken for having never
orgasmed. So, I verbatim repeated what
was said to me in health class when I
was that age. And my peers had the same
questions. People can have it.
>> Stop. Why would you do that? Why are you
okay with that? That 14-year-old
shouldn't be in your server.
Now, I I've seen uh Courtney doing like
a weird thing, and I don't know the age
of the account. Um, but I've seen
Courtney tell somebody to experiment
with their friends, calling them like a
kiddo. I I believe there was something
about a oral or a tit job. I can't
remember who the [\h__\h] it was or a hand
job. I literally can't remember. I would
have to look up the the DM that I got
about it. But like this is like why are
you an adult woman teaching minors about
sex
on the internet?
Why?
Like Oh my god, I'm dying. Just don't
like why are you doing that? Can I
definitively call the Courtney a
groomer? No, I can't. But from that
information, I can call it completely
reckless and irresponsible and you
shouldn't be around other people's kids.
Continue, Greg.
Yeah, people can have an opinion on
whether I should have answered or not,
but no, I didn't teach a kid how to
masturbate. I gave the same health talk
I was given in school and I moved on.
You know the difference is, Courtney,
those are teachers.
>> You're not a teacher.
You're not an instructor. You're not an
educator. You're literally some idiot on
the internet.
I also don't try to help people anymore
regardless of age. I also don't have a
server full of minors. There's nine.
>> Uh she was saying to a girl who was
getting bullied to tell bullies that
their dick wasn't even big enough to
tituck her or some [\h__\h] It was like
crazy inappropriate. Yeah. That Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But there
was another one about uh experimenting
with a friend as well, which again still
grossly inappropriate. I don't call like
when I call you guys like kids like
chat, it is literally the joke that I am
I am Daddy Valde. Like it's a joke.
This is like in this is insane. Th This
is just an insane defense.
I'm going to go step away for a little
bit. Greg,
>> what?
>> I'm not reading. You didn't tell me to
read it. Read it. How are you? [\h__\h]
We've talked about the subject because
it pertains to my content. I make
content that pertains to grooming
because of who my sister is. I plan to
put out more information about grooming
in the form of content so people can arm
themselves with tools they need. But I
have never sold myself as a teacher of
kids on how to not be groomed.
Somebody says, "Okay, so this is my
personal opinion, but if your content
actively revolves around content not
suitable for children, i.e. your
experience with Lily, grooming, etc.,
maybe having miners in your server,
isn't something that should be pursuing.
You should be pursuing. Be it only that
you can't wholeheartedly control all the
time what is talked about, how, and
when." This is a perfectly reasonable
post to send to somebody. Uh, let's see
how Courtney takes it. Pursuing the
[\h__\h] I don't pursue having kids in my
Discord. I just have nine of them.
You [\h__\h] [\h__\h] You should have zero
children. You should have no children.
You shouldn't know that there are
children in your Discord. And yes, this
applies to anybody with kids in their
Discord. If I find out you have a child
in your Discord, I will just burn you to
the stake. I'm not [\h__\h] around. Like
this is insane because you always run
the risk
of [\h__\h] happening just because you know
you have a child and let's okay let's
say in a perfect world Courtney is the
most um Courtney is the most cautious
and and protective uh Discord owner on
the face of the human planet earth.
Right? Let's just say that for for
instance, what happens if an adult
messages the minor and their friends
quote friends? What if the adult begins
to talk to the minor in sexual fashion?
I don't It's not happening in your
server, but your server is connecting
the two. That's why you just don't have
it to begin with.
That's why you don't have it. This is
just so insane. I want to point out too
that she said she has nine in a discord
of about 80. That's more than 10%.
That's more than 10% of the people in
your Discord are
>> are underage that you actively know
>> that you're actively aware of.
>> Yen, what did you send me? My beautiful,
beautiful Yen.
Uh
ah
let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let
me see. Let me see. I I don't think it's
this one. I'd have to I'd have to go
back. Uh that this is the Yeah, this is
the bro, you got bigger tits than I do
thing. Yeah, this is the thing. From
what I know, too.
>> Brian Mullins was right about one thing.
Slash J.
>> Yes, there is some weird stuff that went
on in Courtney's server because
allegedly there was somebody pretending
to be a minor trying to um um trying to
gay op Courtney. allegedly. It's why I
never really covered it during the uh
during the uh Saber Spark stuff because
I I was getting secondhand evidence to
none of which I could verifiably prove
is true. So, I I just was like, "This
person's weird. This person continues to
be weird. I'll make reference to it."
But covering it as like an investigation
or just a discussion is very very
difficult. Not dead, thank you for
feeding the dog. doggy.
>> Thank you. Thank you, chat. It's time to
feed that dog. Greg, sing the song.
>> I don't want to.
>> It's time to feed the poppers. It's time
to give her treats. It's time to feed
the dog now on the uplock stream
tonight. Yes, Leia. Come on up. Come on
up. What was that? What was that? Go,
girl. Oh, look at her go. She budge. She
crunch. and she consume
dog dog.
Yes, chat. You get a dog for this
stream.
I'm going to have to
>> just this stream.
>> Oh, every stream. Let me see if my thing
is here.
Uh, Fouchy, I think you're describing
Courtney as the be in the best way
possible.
Difficult.
It will like Okay, full disclosure. Full
disclosure. I told she should not be
there anymore. I told Lio straight the
[\h__\h] up. She's gonna blow up in your
face.
I I've said it. I've said she's crazy.
And I know Chris the Dark, wherever
Chris is, we have agreed. Everyone has
agreed on this. I've said Courtney is
not someone to be trusted personally.
She's too mentally unwell. She's
incredibly unstable.
and like I don't know
uh others have. Yes. Yes. Listen, it's
okay. It's it's I I get it. You try to
help people. Um you try to be as kind as
humanly possible because you think that
you see someone hurting or worth like
keeping around and then they kind of
blow up in your face and everyone does
the I told you so dance.
>> I hurt people. Hurt people.
Yeah, but let's let's look at the rest
of this. Um, Courtney goes on to say, "I
didn't assist in altering testimony to
make it um to make it sound worse. I
said implied consent isn't a thing
because it isn't. That girls whose
testimony I read without even knowing
her name shouldn't be telling herself
that it was a thing." And yeah, KP and I
had a discussion about consent where I
directed some things to the girl whose
testimony I read because again, implied
consent isn't a thing.
It is. But continue.
Participating in the video doesn't give
me executive decisions on anything. And
speaking as if KP shortcomings are also
mine simply by association and because
you presume I had executive power over
the video is not just a narrative I'm
entertaining because that's simply not
the case of what happened. You stupid
[\h__\h]
You were in the video. You had a whole
section of the video that said, "Well,
KP can't handle this, so I'm going to
take over.
You're a [\h__\h] liar."
>> It's a very large section of the video.
>> Yes,
it's an incredibly large section of the
video. It is your words. You are This is
my This is my entire issue with Courtney
Pete. And I'm gonna say it and I know
it's gonna suck every time I say it
because it is the most agre it is the
most uh like evil thing I have ever
said.
What Lily has done to Courtney
is evil, but it does not make li it does
not make Courtney a better victim than
anybody else.
That is what pisses me off. Courtney
believes because Lily is so publicly and
prolifically a terrible person, uh, a
sexual abuser, assaulter, uh, the
manipulator, full con, all of these
things.
It does not make Courtney a [\h__\h]
expert on sexual assault because she's
been sexually assaulted. It's actually
incredibly harmful for her to do this
because it's very clear that Courtney
still needs help with this.
Still needs help.
And I don't say this out of a place of
pity. I don't give a [\h__\h] She doesn't
need my [\h__\h] pity. She just needs to
I don't know, stop posting on the
internet for a period of time and just
get help.
Like I don't understand where this she
has this like weird superiority complex.
Like there aren't other people in
communities that have been essayed
before. Like she's the most important
sexual assault victim that's ever
existed because a Lily Orchard is her
sister.
And I like it's like an insane thing.
And again, I think Lily is a terrible
human being. I wouldn't even call them a
human.
There's so much about Lily that I have
learned in the last week and a half that
I didn't know. I knew somewhat. I the
[\h__\h] terraci logs make me want to
just strangle somebody
consensually,
but that's not the point. Yes, Leia. I
know Courtney is a terrible person. I
know, Leia. I know.
Yes, Leia. Yes, I know.
You guys hear her? She's upset.
Hear what?
>> Again? Here. What? Uh,
>> the dog is barking. Oh. Yeah,
>> I couldn't hear anything.
>> Is it? But why? You should I sharing my
screen.
>> Yes, she's very loud.
>> Come here, girl.
Leia. Yeah, it's the savior complex
thing. That's really It's incredibly
unhealthy for her.
That's my problem is that this is not
helping her.
Again, I'm not saying that she's a a
groomer. I don't I don't have any
evidence of that. I'm not saying that
she's a lot of the things people are now
claiming her. I haven't seen enough
evidence to convincingly like point to
that,
but like that's not this is not the
point. You you had a hand in this video.
You had a hand in all the consent part
of this video. Own it.
Do you want to see the Lily incest video
where she I don't No.
>> No.
>> No, Embry. No.
I had to watch the June the King video.
I've been thinking about re I I thought
about reacting it to it on stream months
ago
and I just was like it's so long. It's a
lot. I'm afraid. But I still might.
Uh let's see. Uh I'm not apologizing to
anyone telling anyone implied consent
isn't a thing because it isn't.
>> I know, Leia. I know. I know. Leia, come
on, girl.
>> I'm just saying this is Ethel's fault.
All right, I know it's Ethel's fault.
I'm turning off the camera to grab
something because I know what she's
barking at. Greg, why don't you tell the
lovely people to like and subscribe, by
the way.
>> Like and subscribe, by the way.
What's with these drag?
What do you mean, dead air?
Guess I'm strong enough.
>> Wait, did Greg leave?
>> No. Oh,
>> you didn't let me say anything else.
>> The air was so dead. I can feel it
coming in the air at night.
Oh Lord. All right, let's continue.
You want to go technical? I also pointed
out that the testimony that I was
confused as to where it was taken from
in the hotel room to some sort of a
close off and assault happening. So
whatever I edited to sound worse, I
pointed out a plot hole. So malicious,
right?
Pumpkin goes on to say, "Wait, you
actually think implied consent isn't a
thing?" Face emoji.
>> What's the super chat RP today, Greg?
>> Oh god. Um,
>> is somebody driving the car, Greg, or
are we doing something else?
>> No, I had a I had a bad I had a bad
meme. I'm not gonna say it. Um,
>> the bad meme.
>> No, I said I'm not gonna say um Yeah,
you have been saved by Superman.
>> You have been saved by Superman. Thank
you.
Um, Courtney, do you actually think it
is the [\h__\h] Pumpkin. Yes.
CNC uses.
>> Oh my god.
>> Oh god. I know what you're trying to do,
but no.
Oh god.
Implied consent meaning. Bro, that's
contract law, not sexual conduct.
Pumpkin, I'm sorry. Oh, Pumpkin, are you
Juno? Oh, I'm so sorry, dog. Why would
you have engaged in this conversation?
>> Just literally be like,
>> because
she's she's a creator. She's going to be
in the chat. People are going to reply.
actually going to reply back. It's all
is what it is.
>> But it's also one of the things where
it's like Courtney said, "Yes, because I
can." I know. I know.
>> Uh cuz Courtney says that body language
is not a part of consent. That's not
true. Body language is a part of
consent. It's a crazy thing to not say
that it is.
>> Ace,
>> how can Courtney say there is no such
thing while also giving an example for
rock stars getting flashed? Lol.
>> Look, Ace, you don't understand. You You
have been saved by Superman.
>> You have been
>> Mhm. You have been saved by soups, but
no, it doesn't exist. Listen, remember
flashing titties is consent.
See, uh, pumpkin, uh, it could be
applied to sexual conduct as well.
Courtney,
Courtney, if you're a rapist,
as face pumpkin,
are you calling me a rapist? Drunkleby,
bro. What? Tell me right now if you're
calling me a rapist. Courtney
>> shitten.
>> Uh the the gif of Jason Mimoa pulling
out a lawn chair.
>> It's Peak. What is that from?
>> I don't remember. It was one of his
earlier things.
>> Yeah, it was like an early early movie
cuz he's thin.
>> Yeah. Courtney, do you not understand
the proverbial you
or do you need to expressly state that
it's proverbial?
Uh, pumpkin, I need a yes or a no.
Courtney, genuinely asking, if you're
stupid enough to think that that's
what's being run with, I don't give a
[\h__\h] I don't have the patience to
unravel stupid
pumpkin. Okay, how about this? My
partner and I use implied consent in
bed. or we rapists.
Christ,
>> this is debate perpetry at its famous.
>> Oh god, I hate it here.
This is terrible. What is happening?
Just make fun of Courtney. Just make fun
of her. Say she's stupid and she's a
liar.
Dep. How do we get here, dog?
Courtney, I don't care what you're
accepting. The U was proverbial. If the
boot fits, lace it up and wear it. I'm
not debating anything or anyone. I don't
care to change your mind. Think what you
like. Take offense where you will.
Becca and I used implied consent to [\h__\h]
Bon's career. Are we the rapists?
Lazy.
That implies that I'm in the cuck chair
and I do not like that.
>> You like the cuck chair. You tell me all
the time.
>> That is not true, Greg.
>> H.
>> Okay, prove it otherwise. Prove a
negative.
>> I literally run the show, [\h__\h]
>> Yeah, but you're you like getting
cucked. That's That was
>> That's not at all true.
>> Okay,
>> I'm
>> You said you like this Nico chair.
>> I We're not even getting into this.
>> The m does not mean you get to leave.
>> Can we talk about this? The Sneo chair
is such a funny thing because Sneo
literally described watching his
girlfriend get railed while he was on
the bottom.
Like that's what I've always found
really funny about the Sneo chair
analogy where it's literally like he's
the one that was on the bed facing up
while she's getting railed above him.
It's like one of the funniest things. Uh
but again, Pumpkin goes on to say, "You
know what? No, I don't care anymore.
You've been nothing but rude, cruel, and
straight up disrespectful to the members
of this server. Lio has ran defense for
you multiple times. [\h__\h]
insane. By the way, Lo does not Li's an
idiot. Lio is an idiot for running
defense for Courtney as much as he did.
I I told him before I I don't This is
insane. Like, he should have never run
defense for this girl. She is indef what
she says is indefensible. Her actions
and the way that she speaks is
indefensible.
And I've told him this and I legit don't
understand it, but I don't care to
understand it. Many more people don't
want you here, including me. Take your
snotty attitude and stick it. Yeet ye. I
mean, what? Thank you, Hidden. I'm glad.
So, yes, chat, there's been a lot of
fallout already from Lazy's video, and
we haven't even gotten to it yet.
We haven't even gotten to reacting to
Lazy Bedheads video.
But chat, are you ready?
Are you guys ready for the greatest
moment of all time? That is this insane
expose deep dive. 3 hour and 15 minutes
and 37 seconds.
Uh, are you guys ready? I don't you know
this is the longest we've gone before
even starting the topic. We're we're so
>> we're an hour and 16 minutes in. I know
>> we're and and we haven't even started
the video.
>> It's cuz it's a lot dog.
>> I know. I know. There's so much
happened.
>> We need we need to preempt everybody.
Redhead.
>> I'm ready. This is going to be fun.
>> And you have been saved by Superman.
>> Yes. Thank you. Why am I getting the
blame for the fallout? All I did is wipe
back off my face. This isn't blame. This
This is This is your reward.
>> It's your reward. Lazy. Lazy. This is
Oh, god.
>> Victim.
>> Victim number 455. Tip $3.50.
So, Superman, does Wonder Woman and that
one guy that's green get cold when
flying? Yeah. Know it's chilly up in the
sky and they ain't wearing much. I mean,
we're like 100 ft up and cold.
>> What the [\h__\h] is happening? Thank you.
victim
>> name became a member named mcname name
celebrates
membership can't believe it's already
been seven months
>> it has been it has been all right chat
let's finally get into the video the
bonk conspiracy a measured response
you have full animation you have full
permission to use my animation as shorts
uh
thank you embry'll talk about that later
because I would feel bad to just do that
outright.
Oh, wait. I Okay, apologies for the
length of this video. There's a lot and
we need to talk about spanning two
months or so. I encourage you to watch
the entire thing. Thank you.
>> It's only been two months.
>> Wait, Fouchy, I thought you watched this
already. Yeah, I did.
>> I haven't. I planned on doing it and
then I heard we were going to cover it
and then I heard Becket was going to
cover it and then I didn't watch Becca's
stream it. So now I am watching it for
the first time.
>> Lazy, you can't give the you can't give
it away that I've pre-watched content.
>> The
FGI watches it. I do not.
>> Yeah. Well, sometimes. And then you
watch it and I don't.
>> It's very infrequent.
>> It's very infrequent how we do that.
Easter Sunday, the video Black Griffin,
a collective community failure, was
released to the critical acclaim of over
100,000 people, which included
>> Blue became a member, Eric's Blue
celebrates 7 months of membership, L
Pre-Watcher.
>> You know what's crazy? Like, now that
Lazy's in the chat, I'm going to say
this. Do you know the week before this
whole Saber Spark stuff happened, I was
going to watch that video on stream?
>> Yeah.
We saw this and this was in our show
docs to watch.
>> It was in our Yeah, we were literally uh
planning on watching it.
>> It was in our show doc to watch and then
and then the saber [\h__\h] happened.
>> Oh, Jesus Christ.
>> pages on Reddit. It was a monumental
success that raised over $500 for the
charity Rape Abuse Incest National
W. I didn't know that as making content
on dark topics like sex crimes and abuse
became a bit of a regular flavor over
here. But after covering such topics for
over 5 years, it had become very
draining to talk about. However, I had
known of the story for over a year and
thought with the stakes raised and more
victims coming forward, it was the best
time to talk about it. After all, other
creators had just
>> So, let's like have a conversation real
quick because the the Black Griffin
stuff had
>> Yeah, Courtney and the Black Griffin
story had been traveling for a period of
time when we were doing our research and
it really like came to a head with the
Billy Bustup stuff.
>> Yes, I remember linking you a bunch of
stuff because I've been seeing it all
over the place like in February and
March and stuff.
>> Yeah, we had watched a Lau video. We had
watched Courtney's video. Obviously, I
never saw Salty's video or Internet
Adjacent's video, but I I remember
seeing a Lauo and Courtney. Wait, I
thought you already watched that one on
stream. No, we actually So,
we watched bits of it, but I'm
I've got to be honest, I watched it more
for research purposes to pick the video
apart.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I had to pick the
I had to pick your research apart
because because it did, as you will
admit in this video, rely on the doc. Um
I do a lot of uh so like when I do like
stuff for like research stuff, Greg can
tell you I'll watch hours of somebody's
content and I'll rewatch it. Uh I I I
have an entire I have an entire dead
channels catalog in my brain. I've seen
all these videos so many times. Yeah. KJ
and I were in the [\h__\h] trenches on
this.
>> No, no, you you're good. You're good.
Lazy
>> pulled up to the function with their own
coverage that got a positive reception.
What's the worst that could happen?
>> The reason we're starting here of all
places is because on levels of
culpability,
>> just believing a document that's handed
to you is something that generally
speaking a lot of YouTubers do. True.
>> And this is this is like true. Like this
is not Lazy's not the first one to have
done this.
Granted, it was huge in the story that
we were covering. It was a like a huge
[\h__\h] in in some regards, sure. But
it's like so many people do this because
like
for us, like there are different levels
of commentary and it's been uh I I'll
say this, it's been really nice talking
to to Lazy about this because
Lazy kind of explained her process to
me.
I want to say this cuz Lacy said this
publicly.
>> Oh my god. Yen. Oh, Yen.
>> Yen, thank you.
>> Yen tipped $13.37.
That's all well and good, Fali. But
first, face with raised eyebrow. Face
with raised eyebrow. Face with raised
eyebrow. Face with raised eyebrow. Face
with raised eyebrow. Face with ra.
>> Hey, it's crazy. I could just skip it.
It's like a beautiful thing because it's
like 30 of them.
>> Superman would not save you.
>> No. Super Lex Luthther has saved you.
>> I love Yen. Yen Yen is Yen is one of my
favorite people on the internet. But uh
I I I'll say this scammer.
>> Um I'll say this about Lazy. Lacazy does
all of this on an iPhone.
>> What?
>> She edits, writes like the Luminous app
films on a phone. Yes.
>> I don't know what app she uses. I I had
an app for a long time that I used to
edit stuff on,
>> but like she uses a phone for a lot of
this and I
and like I was talking to her about it
and it's like it's been like incredibly
interesting to discuss the process
again. I think one of the most
interesting things was me and Lazy when
we first started talking I was like you
know I had harsh criticism for you and
she was like oh yeah and we've literally
just talked ever since cuz that's like
literally how you do this.
It's a video leap actually. It's better
than Capcom.
>> We'll probably have to look into that
for some of the Tik Tok stuff we have to
eventually do.
>> Trusting that the
>> But this is all to say like a lot of
people do the Google docky stuff like um
uh [\h__\h]
uh what's what's their f There was a
Google Docy one that that did that
recently where a lot of people like
follow the Google doc and it didn't work
and I can't remember which one it was. I
can't even [\h__\h] remember now.
Minecraft.
>> The Minecraft one is weird. Um, the
Minecraft one was weird. The Skppy stuff
we So, we never really covered the Skppy
stuff. Um,
this is going to be the weirdest plug.
Uh, go look at Slugs uh, coverage of the
Skppy stuff. Um, because I had been
talking to him and he got like behind
the scenes info on a lot of stuff in
that and talked to a lot of the parties
involved. Um, and and like with his
permission, I was going to run some of
the stuff. Uh, but uh we never got a
chance to do it. But the Skppy the Skppy
stuff is Yeah. Like a doc releases and a
bunch of people just pick up with it.
Um,
it's it's a weird one. It's a very weird
one. But yeah, YouTubers do this all the
time. [\h__\h] I think if we weren't as so
like hyperfocused about never getting
things wrong, I think that like we would
have done it.
Fal doesn't beat a dead horse. Jesus
Christ.
>> Fal dissects the dead horse, finds out
how it was beaten to death and why. Then
goes to that dead horse's child,
explains everything, and if necessary,
beats that horse.
>> Axis,
you have been saved by Superman.
>> Oh my god. Yes. Woke Superman saved you
specifically, Axis, and nobody else.
Thank you, Axis. Thank you, dude.
>> Done for them. In fact, this is KP's
defense for why she [\h__\h] this up. Much
like the allegations against Saber
Spark, there is no evidence for this.
Yeah.
>> And even in the document, it is noted
that it can't have been in 2012 because
Twitter didn't even add the function to
send pictures in DMs until December of
2013. And yet, Lazy Bedhead uses the
fact the allegations even exist in the
first place to try and label Black
Griffin a predator. And I'd like you to
keep in mind here that Fando themselves
admits that they don't have proof behind
the Destiny allegations. In fact, they
were using those allegations in an
attempt to gay up and blackmail Black
Griffin. When that didn't work, they
released this is something that for some
reason
Bonk denies, but we have all the proof
that Bonk has done this. It's lied to
Lazy about it in their three-hour
interview, continues to lie on Twitter
about it. No, you you typed this up that
the whole idea was to record them
without consent and release it. So when
Bonk goes, "Oh, I can't believe people
record other people without consent."
You had planned to do that from the
jump. You were so ready to do that to
Gabe and Claire, which again, we will
get into the whole feelings about Gabe
and Cla's relationship. I get it. I
already know. I've had a little bit of
the discussion in the Discord about it
that Cloudy made fun of me for because
she loves me. But yeah.
>> Well, yo, don't add her like that.
>> them. Anyway, one of my major issues, in
fact, probably my main issue with this
story is the fact that nobody really
vetted or checked anybody before running
things. For example, Courtney Pete and
by extension Lazy Bedhead used Sophie
Scrugs as an expert on this community.
This lack of vetting isn't just me
bitching about standards. It has quite
serious implications for these wider
stories.
>> Mhm.
This video is going to serve as three
things. One, an apology, and two, a
complete breakdown of everything that's
happened from April 20th to now. I will
be giving you insights of everything
that has happened behind the scenes for
what I have proof and access to. Some
things are missing and they're for
reasons I'll be giving, but I'm pretty
much laying everything out on the table
to answer. I will already say
this starts off stronger than literally
[\h__\h] 90% of all YouTuber apologies
I've ever seen.
This this literally I didn't know it was
possible for me to talk even faster than
I do.
Uh Lazy, I watched your video on two
times speed because it was still too
slow for me. I have like a brain works.
>> Yes. Don't take that as as an insult to
the content or anything. Vouchi there's
only so many hours in a day. Valgi has
to watch a lot of things every day. So,
he watches everything at two times
speed. If you could stream at two times
speed I sometimes, unironically I have I
have a trick. Greg Greg knows my trick.
>> I know.
>> I will I will play something at four
times speed and lower it to three times
speed so that I can understand it.
Uh, was it even comprehensible that
fast? Yeah, I can compreh He has ADHD.
He's working overtime. He He's He's got
the t-shirt that says ADHD is my
superpower.
>> It I do
>> answer the questions that have been
asked. And
>> I do question at three times speed. It's
disgusting.
>> Left unanswered. What's going on? What's
your response? Why are you doing this?
This will serve as that reference point.
A lot of the things that have been
happening behind the scenes, I am not
100% proud of and will disappoint a lot
of you, but I owe it to my friends and
audience who have uplifted this platform
accountability when I'm in the wrong.
Here's
>> no Maddie, I don't pull us on and leave
the room. I can
>> thing a lot of people who are newer
might not know about me. I am a
oneperson show who films, edits,
researches, scripts, and posts from an
iPhone. And I've been doing it that way
since I was by the way. So if I [\h__\h] up,
if a video blows up in my face, if there
is a reputational hit, I have to take
fault. There's no one else to blame.
It's all me. again literally better than
90% of videos
about apologies
there. Like there's something so
interesting about this because a lot of
people will be like, I can't believe
Lazy's apologizing or this [\h__\h] blah
blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm like,
listen, people get stories wrong. It's
called a retraction.
It's very like
It's uncommon on YouTube, but it
shouldn't be.
>> It shouldn't be. And I think there's
something interesting too is that Lazy's
retraction is far different if Brony
Phanto and anybody else, Amy, New Sophie
Scruggs, even Ian, even Ian uh uh
Claire's dad, which will be mentioned in
this video, make a retraction
because what one of the really important
things about this is
Lazy was not involved the same way other
people for she was a third party in this
story which at the time not not
everybody knew even even myself
included. I didn't know how much Lazy's
involvement was and she'll describe it
in this video but like
like like Weaver said it shows strength
to just admit a mistake.
>> Sure. Yeah.
So, let me acknowledge the concerns and
criticisms of the community and take
into consideration the words of my
peers, my fans, and maybe people who
don't really like me all that much to
begin with because all perspectives are
important regardless if it hurts my
feelings or I think it's too mean. But
there's that third thing. I've only
listed two. So, what else will this
video present? What other motives do I
have? That third thing will be doing
what's right. Words in a YouTube apology
video means nothing without action. And
the action I've decided to take is
revenge. A grooming story in the My
Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
community. Right. Okay, cool. Like, I
haven't heard that one before. Copy
paste story. But a grand conspiracy
spanning over two decades to take down
two giant content creators out of
jealousy.
Now, that's a story. And it's a story
that needs to be told because I care far
more about the truth being out there
than I do a thanks Reddit moment. This
[\h__\h] is bigger than me. It's bigger than
anyone could have ever imag. Yeah, this
is this is again like the amount of just
interpersonal
the the amount of interpersonal [\h__\h]
that went on in this story that like I
know Becca talked about it a little bit
recently yesterday and I've talked about
it a little bit as well, stuff that I
feel comfortable sharing with on and off
thereord stuff. Obviously I don't share
any of the off thereord stuff. uh more
just like um
onrecord stuff that we didn't include as
Becket noted last night and I think
we've both incl noted in multiple
streams. Um
we well Becket because it's his video,
but we had a lot more conversations with
Claire and Michelle that was in those uh
those uh videos. Even Saber, we had an
off thereord discussion with Saber
before the big interview like section
when he was ready to speak, you know,
cuz we had to I had those conversations
with Saber. I have emails with Saber
that I will not release, but like those
are important for a variety of reasons.
And so it's like there was so there's so
much throughout it.
There is so much behind it and it's
crazy crazy crazy
to think that like people don't know
that Lazy's the only one that has all
well Lazy is not the only one cuz I I
have I have it too and so does Becket
but like Lazy's one of the few people
aside from Lazy Enter and other and I
think like the four of us that even know
how far this goes
>> imagined and I would rather stand by the
truth and what's right than to support
some petty jealous [\h__\h] who
should see to it that Everything they've
built is burnt to the ground.
>> I can respect it.
>> I I did not I was not expecting all
this.
>> How do you feel?
>> Uh
this is exciting.
>> It is exciting because we didn't get to
we didn't get to watch or I didn't get
to watch the other one, right? So like I
I recognize the concept of the original
and and what like of like a presentation
of the um
>> you could say
quote unquote evidence from Bonk, which
is, you know, which are screen caps or
whatever else was in the the really long
uh post into some other things, but then
like going into it afterwards from uh
>> from
what Becket ended up putting together,
seeing just how
>> how uh um Lazy Bunk was was with
compiling all this stuff or how
>> how none of it really mattered and it
was all to drive his his original
narrative and how
>> yeah,
>> Lazy's original video was pretty much
just the just
>> it was the document with some
>> just looking at the doc.
>> Yeah. And it was well it was the doc
with some evidence and things like that
cuz the doc is not fully made by Bonk as
he will say and there's some indication
that there's a fourth party that we just
don't know who they are. Um but there's
like but there's like other parts too
where it's Bonk's whole thing is because
he says it in Lazy's interview. So let's
talk a little bit about why Bon even
started this. And we knew this behind
the scenes, but obviously we didn't
publish it at the time. Bonk only got
involved with Black Griffin because of
what he perceived as racism.
It's the only reason why he cared about
the story initially. He thinks alone the
liking of Candace Owens posts and when
BLM kind of reached like a weird fever
pitch where it was starting to get
violent, which it did,
make no mistake about it. And you could
have your own feelings about it. Don't
get me wrong. Uh, I I've stated that uh
not every protest needs to be um not
every protest needs to be like uh uh
nonviolent when it comes to being
oppressed, but try to do it in a way
that keeps everybody safe. Um
and Bon was like, you know what, this
guy should be canceled from everything
and anything he's ever been attached to.
And it's been his modus operandi that
even if all the grooming allegations are
false, you can never convince him that
he's not a racist.
Literally, that's just what it's been.
And that alone should make Bon should
make Black Griffin never work with
anybody again. That's what he believes,
which is insane. It's literally insane.
>> Also, just ignore all this. I know this
looks really dramatic. I'm I'm using
this for my Oak Opus video. I just
didn't want to take this down yet. So,
this is just here
comes across as like really screaming.
It's because it is I'm not very good at
like just going off the cuff and just
talking about stuff that's been
happening for over the course of two
months and just kind of remembering it
off my head. So, the script is just to
help me keep focused. This video will be
divided into three chapters named after
the three most important names that I
have determined to be the most highly
contentious. Black Griffin. I love Kim
Possible a lot or KP and Bonk. There's
>> Okay,
the sound effects are good.
I like this. Okay, it's an ARG.
It's an analog horror ARG. Oh, Lazy, you
would love my friend Doo. My friend My
friend do.
>> Uh, small YouTuber but growing in size
every day. Very good friend of mine.
loves ARGs and like
>> she's like a cousin to the ops. She's
like the ops cousin.
>> Yes, she is a cousin of the ops. I mean,
she is a part of the op block, but like
she does her own stuff.
>> She is our cousin.
>> She is our cousin. Um, but it's she
loves horror stuff. Stu super super
horror stuff. You'd love her.
>> There's a lot of names that will be
thrown around in the midst of these
sections. So, to make it easy, here's
everyone you need to know about.
>> This is insane level of just what the
[\h__\h] are you doing? How did you just do
this on an iPhone? I am so confused.
I assume somebody helps you with these
these graphics, but this is insane. By
the way, when I saw this, I laughed
about Black Griffin or Gabriel Brown is
a YouTuber and musician who is married
to the My Little Pony voice actress
Claire Corlet. His career started in My
Little Pony, but evolved over the years
on features like Hasbin Hotel. Claire
Corlet Brown.
>> Where does this sound effect come from?
I did the graphics on pick art.
Yes, you can link dude's channel name.
Um, this is insane.
What is What is happening? I animate on
iPhone. You all of you people are crazy.
This, right? This is Silent Hill, right?
This is wild.
>> Is the voice actress for Sweetie Bell in
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. She
is married to Gabriel Brown who she met
through her childhood friend Michelle
Creber. Michelle and the Creers hosted
Gabe in their home whilst under talent
contract. She is the voice actress for
Apple and childhood
>> absolutely correct
>> friend of Claire and considered Gabriel
to be like a sibling to her. All three
of these people are friends with a
speculative history together as Gabe was
an adult living with Michelle when she
was a minor. And
>> uh it's important to know let's talk
about that a little bit. Uh, so this
this will come up again because Becket
was able to talk about this last night
because we we didn't include it in one
of the um we didn't include this in one
of the interviews, but um I think it's
like actually really important to
discuss.
Mo'Nique was very uh which is Michelle's
mom. Mo'Nique was very involved
with Michelle and Gabe being popular
within the show's fandom. A lot of
people um and I think that this is where
Sophie and Amy get it really they're
incredibly jealous but they get it
incredibly wrong.
Mo'Nique by admission of by admission of
Claire and Michelle.
Mon'nique was the one that was pushing
Gabe to go everywhere, including him
with contracts whenever Michelle was
appearing and all these things, helping
monitor their interactions online, which
we will get to those those claims, by
the way. But it's like it's like the
fact that they were so jealous of Gabe
because they were mad that Gabe was a
community person turned professional on
the show and they didn't do that in some
capacity. I guess specifically Sophie is
insane to me because it wasn't like Gabe
was putting himself out there. I mean,
he was, but like it's like there's an
insane level of just like people don't
remember or don't didn't even look.
Um, Sophie is the comic artist. Yes. Uh,
is this Lazy's expose apology? Uh, yes.
Pimementa, this is queen [\h__\h] This is
this is Lazy did good on this. I I'm I
am gassing it because I've watched it
and I'm very impressed. Also, Lazy and I
have become friendly over a period of
time. That's why I made it very well
known that we have become friendly over
this.
>> Filmed content with Clare when she was
underage as well. Ian James Corlet is
Cla's father. Allegations presented by
his own daughter of being controlling
and abusive. This was backed up in
videos created by Cop and Se Becket's
community base comes from an in between
of the art commentary community and the
com,
>> you know, we've been calling Becket. So,
so for those who don't know, we've been
like I've always like we've we've told
Becket he's like the new ACC. Like I've
said that to him before. Um and it's
just really funny that that's how that's
how you described him. You know what I
mean? It's just hilarious because
somebody tried to you know recently
someone I guess tried to describe that
we're like ACC
um recently because they had we had a
falling out I guess. But it's incredibly
funny. Uh, it's incredibly incredibly
funny to me because I come from the
regular normie commentary community.
I come from the regular commentary
community covering like Tik Tok drama,
Dr. disrespect like all like if you look
at our earliest videos like it's not we
didn't touch the ACC until like probably
it was the JAR stuff but like Jar was
hot so it was easy to cover.
Uh so it was just like really really
funny. Uh oh you knew about Michelle mom
being the one that who told Gabe to make
the date 16 comment. So, the way it was
expressed to us
um by both Claire and Michelle, I I will
say this
cuz this on this is on recording. Um
Mo'Nique would not have allowed a poor
tweet or public statement to have been
made without her approval.
Like, Mo'Nique was making sure these two
were successful.
She would have never have allowed
something that she could not have done
op could not have been safe optic-wise.
It's really important to note that
>> Terry bros fear but for the most part
we'll do interviews and present the
multiple perspectives of those in the
community. One of those interviews
features Mr. Enter. Jonathan Rosanski is
a cartoon reviewer who's been around
since 2013 that does investigations
against folks in his community in
regards to abusive behaviors.
>> You know, I get I will say this,
I was harsh on Enter in the beginning.
I'll be very real. Um but I I came
around on Enter. Uh, I still think the
the
I still think the trying to do the
timeline of where Saber and everything
uh lost his phone is very cringe and
incredibly not needed and I think it's
way too tryh hard in my personal
opinion. But I've come around on enter
because he is from what I can tell has
integrity when he finds out something is
incorrect
and or he's been bamboozled and has to
set the record straight. I've like and I
I respect that of him. Like straight up,
I respect that.
>> Alongside a team of his editors and
newly found friends made through his
previous investigative works. In June of
2025, John covered the allegations
against Sabers Spark. Steven Craraver is
one of the biggest content creators in
the community who was friends with Black
Griffin, even going to his wedding,
which by the way, by mistake, it's
Carver, not Craveriation with was
already putting in.
>> Don't you pause it. Don't you hop on
anyone for mispronouncing anything ever.
>> I woke you up. What game should I play
to make you background noise?
>> Ivy, what do you have?
>> Sunday. I'm I'm doing laundry, [\h__\h]
>> Laundry over me, baby.
>> Before all this though, Steven was a
phase on Everfree radio before becoming
an overarching cartoon reviewer. May of
2025, Steven had allegations of sexual
assault presented by a former friend and
cartoon reviewer. I love Kim Possible a
lot. Rachel Cohen presented allegations
against a former colleague of fish.
>> The face of a mean [\h__\h]
I listen I won't say nice things about
KP. I won't say nice things about KP.
You can't convince me to. She literally
just has the [\h__\h] she has the face of
a mean [\h__\h]
>> Included in that expose were the poorly
presented allegations and connections to
Chris with DA Games and
>> Marvel Rivers or Valheim. Valheim
>> Saber Spark as well as an allegation of
sexual assault presented anonymously but
then later revealed to be Sonic content
creator Emu Emmy. Emmy Jones or Emily
Jones was already riddled with
controversy before coming forward with
allegations of rape against Sabers
Spark.
>> Now, let's talk about Emily real quick
so I can make something very, very
clear. I still think Emily Jones is a
coward. And I will make that very clear.
Emily Jones is a coward because every
single person in this story has been
using their public platforms to be
ridiculed.
Brony Fan don't for as much as I think
he's a psychopath. Amy new Sophie Scrugs
uh uh Sabers Spark obviously granted I
don't care about myself or anything
else. My entire issue is that Emily has
consistently and constantly used a
throwaway account to never touch her
public account.
especially in her super 300page document
that in my opinion does a very good job
at showing that a lot of her
controversies within the Sonic community
are blown up in some regards and that it
there's a lot more nuance to the story
than Emily bad sleep with everybody
and I think that that's and like the
fact that she doesn't want to put that
on her public platform
personally to me speaks a lot of volumes
about the character of person she is.
That's just me.
>> Cheating allegations, sex scandals, the
whole lot was presented poorly in a
video that used Kiwi.
>> Yeah, this this [\h__\h] video sucks, by
the way. It's the most insane video. And
[\h__\h] Lance Jerkoff is okay with some
guy outing himself as a pedophile. It's
the most bizarre thing in the universe.
>> Farms as a source, probably. But Emily's
story wasn't just backed by KP. In fact,
it was an entire cabal of actors that
pulled Emily in certain directions to
put out the final statement that exists
today. And those names are Courtney
Pete,
>> Bully Orchard's sister, that directly
influenced Emily to remove any mentions
of implied consent, convincing even KP
that the idea of implied consent is
total [\h__\h] She also made a video on
Black Griffin, which featured interviews
with KP and Sophie Scrugs, a My Little
Pony art.
>> You are so nice.
>> That is not what's coming together. That
is
>> that you're right. No, I'm I'm just like
everything the Courtney Pete uh
situation in in was it Lio's Discord?
>> Yes. Now
>> everything's making more sense.
>> Yeah, now you're right.
>> Now I'm I'm seeing the the threads are
connecting. But uh
>> you picked the nicest picture of Sophie.
>> Very polite of you.
>> I have I
I have made a very bad comparison.
Michigan J Bullfrog. I'm so mean. I'm
going to hell. I make fun of people way
too much.
>> Whose work has ended up in official My
Little Pony properties like comics and
merchandise. For a brief period of time,
Sophie shared an account with a user
called Bonk or Helena Hyena. Bonk runs
an account called
>> So, yes. Uh, Bonk's face has been known
on the internet. We just purposely never
included it. Yeah, he's he's posted it.
We just purposely never included it. It
just didn't like it didn't feel like
this kid has complained that uh he kid
he's 28 years old. Um, this kid has
complained that um, he's been doxed
multiple times, including Courtney and
including, excuse me, Claire. Um,
no, he's lying. He continues to lie. He
could like, he's probably received
season desists, which he will say that
he has, but he hasn't been doxed. He
hasn't been doxed. He's 28. Yes.
>> Yes. The Brony fandom has been dead for
10 years. He's 28.
>> Yeah. Yes. He has been fighting the good
fight for forever.
>> Fan don't which used to be a roleplay
account when they were 15 where they
played screw ball. Fanote has been the
main source of information against black
Griffin. However, it should be duly
noted that the master document about
Gabriel was not created by him. The most
contribution.
>> It's also in the Billy Bustup document
that he tweeted out, "At least they used
a nice photo of me, although old." Yeah,
I remember that. I I it was just one of
those things where it was like
>> we didn't use it cuz it's like less it's
one less thing that he'll pick at us
about
>> and it's like yeah sure whatever.
>> Also, nobody knows him by his face.
Everybody knows him by that art.
>> So it's like it's boring to use his
actual face.
It's just boring in my personal opinion
>> to it was well sharing it and archival
tweets from his account were featured in
the Google doc for archive purposes. And
finally, there is one more name that I
don't see a lot of people speak about,
but whose association should be more
heavily known.
>> Was I wrong? Was I in the wrong? No,
Lazy, you're fine. You are fine. We
didn't at the time because he hated us.
Uh
it was just like one it was like a point
of contention because for us personally
uh like Beckett myself like our
platforms
he kept saying that we're all right-wing
we're fascists potentially we're Nazis.
I don't know what the hell he's saying
now. Or we do like what we do is illegal
>> or brigading or whatever.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Or bullying. He said bullying.
>> Bullying. Bullying. Yes. Uh in the
interview he said what Becca does is
illegal by the way. Uh, so we are we're
doing illegal [\h__\h]
>> Oh, good. Got it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it was always this
like thing of give him less like one
less thing to complain about. Um because
like it's it's more entertaining that
way when he crashes out over nonsense.
You are perfectly fine.
>> Plus the thumbnail makes more sense if
you have the the Twitter icon than than
a face that nobody would know.
>> Yeah. The way you're presenting it
perfectly fine. Amy New is the wife of
>> also [\h__\h] this [\h__\h]
>> Peter New the voice actor for Big
Macintosh. She also has been talking
about the Black Griffin allegations but
also she was one of the people who
encouraged Emily to come forward with
her claims against Sabers Spark. There
are other names that I haven't mentioned
that will also periodically come up.
>> Yeah. Yeah. You know who she doesn't
mention? Me. Why? Listen. Every [\h__\h]
time I've been in public dramas that
don't include my name. I've been in
[\h__\h] sto. Do you want to know what's
crazy? The Reddit deletes my [\h__\h]
streams. Leaves Beckett's video up.
>> Why is it me? Every [\h__\h] time. I'm
the one who gets left.
>> It's aophobia. It's mine.
>> It's Fredo phobia. Every time.
>> I mean, just Turkey Tom says you're just
some guy.
>> Oh, yeah. You remember when Turkey Tom
stole that video from me? No, I'm
kidding. It's fine. You're a balding
loser. You're absolutely right, Maddie.
>> Like,
>> I'm also not balding. I just have like a
back hairline.
>> Yeah, Q's Q's the balding one. He's the
Italian. Get it right.
>> I have I have a I have a back hairline
from cancer. So, thank you, Maddie, for
being ableist about cancer. I can't
believe it.
You're the Shondaanda Black of the new
ACC. I am not ACC by no [\h__\h] means
>> or Wootmaster or Peter New or Anthony
Gmaglia or Lio Convoy or Katie and Ash
from Billy Busttop or AC race best or
Michelle's parents or Soul Rock or
Destiny or the Snapchat victim or Ji
Limp or
>> or the Oplock
>> James
Who was Soul Rock?
>> Soul Soul Rack is Emily's last
boyfriend.
That was that was
>> Oh, yes.
>> That Sonic voice actor or different
>> was the Newgrounds artist.
>> Oh, okay. I'm caught up. Thank you.
>> Yep. You know, you know about this
because you're the only person I knew
who knew about Newgrounds to ask that
question.
>> It connected like a [\h__\h] the the
[\h__\h] neutrons held hand in my head.
>> There's so many people that serve minor
roles that will come up, but this
presentation will not have them as my
full focus.
>> I love you.
>> These are the names that matter the most
to me. and where in all of this? Well,
that will be explained over the course
of this video. But before we go over the
timeline of events, I must delay this
video one final time for this very
important forward. I want to apologize
for the wait time of this response. A
lot of things had to occur online and
offline before I made any final
statement. Primarily assisting in Mr.
enters coverage as well as getting Becca
in contact with everyone he needed to
speak to for his coverage as well as
making sure
>> you're the Regina George to them. You
got the burn book.
>> That's so good. Oh my god, I'm Gretchen.
>> Yeah, you're Gretchen.
>> She had access to like important Discord
group chats. Figuring out timeline
discrepancies and getting all of the
ducks in a row. Certain conversations
needed to happen and be recorded.
Questions needed to be asked. Statements
needed to come out before I could
officially answer any questions.
a lot of like offline and pre-planned
and unexpected events like a Colossalon
trip that I had planned since January
and then I felt like garbage that entire
trip and like a week after. So, I was
sick and recovering. Uh, and then there
were some immediate family concerns
after that. And I was just spending a
lot of time offline with family and
friends because that was really
important with my mental health and
confidence to return to the platform
with a response that is precise,
level-headed, and said all of the right
things and addresses absolutely
everything,
>> but not brief.
but not brief
>> thing that is important regardless of
the circumstances. Um, disappear.
>> What was up?
>> I think if it's if it's important, it
doesn't have to be.
>> No, I know. I know. I'm making a joke.
>> Oh,
>> I'm I'm making a joke that it's a that
it she released
>> uh three-hour video, a three-hour
interview, and another two-hour
interview.
>> That's nothing.
>> We've been going for like 3 hours
already. Almost
>> an hour. Shut up. appearing entirely
without much of an explanation was
probably not the right move. And I
understand if that brought any
instability or concern within my base
and even beyond that. Whether I entirely
acknowledge this or not, I do have a fan
base that does listen to what I have to
say and kind of see me as a figurehead.
So silence has only sparked speculation
and misinformation spearheading the
conversation. And for that, I am truly
really sorry.
>> I believe Lazy's about to address it. I
know Lazy's in the chat, so I'm going to
say this to her right now. Lazy's
biggest L in this entire part when it
came to taking down her video was not
making a post regarding why she took it
down. And I know she'll address it in
this video.
>> Yeah, I I remember seeing speculation on
that she got sued
>> the subreddit. Yes, specifically that.
And I do believe that Lazy bring, if I
remember correctly, in this preamble
part, Lazy does bring it up. That was
that is her biggest L when it comes to
taking down the video. Um, again, taking
down videos is always weird. Some people
say don't do it, some people say do it.
I don't mind. Like, my rule of thumb is
if you take a video down, but address
that the video's existence existed in
perpetuity like this video does, I think
it's perfectly fine if you took it down.
Um, but yeah, like that's like the
biggest thing to me was taking it down
uh without making a public statement
about why it was down. I know enter does
later. Yeah, unlist and put it in the
playlist is probably best too. I was
trying to be strategic and I should have
just clued in my immediate base on what
exactly was happening. So, they didn't
think I was just trying to run away from
everything. The reason why I am doing
something is pretty simple. It's because
I value the truth and I am honored to
respect the evidence. Yeah, that wasn't
too smart. Should have said something. I
just wanted to make it in the video
format because not everyone can see
written statements in the video content
gets the most reach.
>> It's fair. Uh
I because I also
>> It's a tough call.
>> It's a tough call. Again, I think you
should have done it that way. Uh I also
know that you don't have like social
media and thus it has to be done on your
uh your platform. Uh, the way that it
probably should have been done, my
personal opinion is post it on your
YouTube as well as post it in your
Patreon. It would have made complete
clear to your base as well as anybody
else that could have just referenced it.
That's personally just me.
>> I know what I have to do.
>> Yeah, that's leveraging criticism. Yeah,
just IG and Tik Tok that you don't use.
It's [\h__\h] yeah. the [\h__\h]
I I have to start using Tik Tok for
content stuff and I'm like gh I'm so
annoyed.
>> Have to do the right thing and the right
thing is being as truthful and as
transparent as possible.
So let's begin. I would like to begin
this section by explaining how I learned
about the Black Griffith story as well
as just kind of explain who I am and why
I do content like this to begin with. It
all started back in 2024. I was working
on the star giant production story which
also has elements of grooming and abuse.
>> Remember chat of the uh chat of the ACC
adjacent remind me is Star Giant tied to
the Rosa call. I feel like that's
correct.
Am I wrong?
>> Chat, this is the one time you can chat.
>> We're letting you chat right now.
>> [\h__\h] off. Also, there's 177 of you and
like not enough likes. Let's get those
up.
>> Like and subscribe and donate for the
dog. Yes,
>> we will turn this stream around. Okay,
>> I will turn the stream around. Who will
next be saved by Superman?
>> As many of you who have been watching me
for a while, sex scandal stories and
online abuse has been a constant here.
I've been doing this for a while and for
the longest time, let's get those likes.
>> I didn't really understand like why.
Like, this stuff makes me [\h__\h]
depressed. I'm fascinated by it, but it
hits so close to home that it's also
like incredibly difficult and
uncomfortable for me to talk about. So,
like, why do I cover topics of this
nature like so often? I think it comes
from coping. To be perfectly blunt, the
rebrand of this channel from like
anti-SJW to advocacy comes from like an
atonement of my past
>> as well as a lack of direction in my
life. Before Lazy Bed Head became what
it is today, it was an anti-SJW skeptic
channel. And part of the anti-SJW sphere
was leaning into rightwing politics.
What an interesting like digression for
a second to be like, "Yeah, I'm going to
go from anti-SJW
to like this like internet true crime
thing." And it's like it's very very
interesting.
>> And sometimes it's the opposite.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes it's the opposite.
>> And sometimes Mama JF is still in the
walls.
>> God, Mama JF, where are you
every day?
>> Politics. The specific fraction of that
space that I fell into was a stepping
stone into the alt-right. Part of being
in the alt-right pipeline is how you
express sexual abuse as more of an
attack on men than it is a serious
threat towards women. A lot of those in
the space would deny sexual abuse or
claim that most
>> I think that's a very accurate way to
put it is that like
>> like women were the reason for it on
that side of the spectrum. And I think
that that's like it's such a like a
insane thing to say out loud that like
women would have to like like like it's
women are blamed for that in that
regard. Like it's but again that's part
of the skeptic and and anti-SJW
community and not looking there's nuance
in stories and looking at the you know
it's insane
>> sexual abuse occurs due to something the
victim is doing. For an example, you
know how Jordan Peterson would argue
that like women who are sexually
harassed in the workplace are sexually
harassed because they wear makeup and
makeup is sexually provocative and
signals to other male co-workers that a
woman is sexually attracted to them.
>> Can men and women work together in the
workplace?
>> Yes. I do it.
>> How do you know?
>> Because I work with a lot of women.
>> Well,
>> never forget that Jordan Peterson was
almost murdered by his daughter.
Never forget that Jordan Peterson almost
was murdered by his daughter because his
daughter hated him so much that he tried
that she tried to kill him. Uh like
what?
Yeah. Jordan Peterson was like going
through like withdrawal symptoms
and like what are you talking Oh. Oh,
this is a funny joke I always make. Um
so
>> is it a joke or is it true?
It's kind of so so the story gets weird.
So
allegedly the story goes that Jordan
Peterson was going through benzoazipene
withdrawal and she was like withholding
medications from him. Uh she also
allegedly had sex with um Andrew Tate.
It is. It's one of those stories that's
like weirdly unconfirmed because like
why would your daughter admit to trying
to murder you even if the daughter hates
you? But that is how the alleged story
goes that he was going through like some
like benzoazipene withdrawal and um like
she was like either telling him to do it
like the homeopathic way or all these
things. Like it's it's a whole it's a
weird [\h__\h] ra I'm going to be honest.
It's a very weird rabbit hole. Maybe one
day we'll cover uh Jordan Peterson
because like he's like
>> his grace has fallen from the internet.
>> He went into a self-induced coma in
order to leave addiction. Yes, Binta.
Yes.
He was dying of benzel withdrawal and
she just went on a trip to Europe.
Yeah. She like left him. She like left
him. It's crazy.
Yeah. Jordan Peterson's daughter took
him to some Baltic country to get like
crazy coma treatment and then almost
pulled the plug on him.
It's like insane. And like it's
theorized that she like she sent him to
like some [\h__\h] that would have killed
him because there's like no reason that
she that he should have survived. She
also gave him COVID. Yes, I've also
heard that story that he was like at
risk for COVID.
It's so funny. Like Jordan Peterson lore
is astounding.
>> It's been happening for what 40 years
and and things are deteriorating very
rapidly at the moment in terms of
relationships between men and women.
>> Is there sexual harassment in the
workplace? Yes.
>> Yeah.
>> Should it stop? That'd be good. Will it?
>> Well,
>> fun fact, I went to a Jordan Peterson
talk at Fillmore in Detroit when I was
17 when I was a 17-year-old girl and he
answered my submitted question on stage.
There's a clip of it. Lazy Badhead. Fun
fact, uh Milo Yiannopoulos, uh came to
my home, uh and uh ate and drank at a
Super Bowl party I was throwing for 80
people. I didn't know who he was. I had
somebody just asked if they could bring
a friend from outside of the country
over that was staying with them. I said,
"Sure." There was a large conglomerate
of people in my home that would have
murdered Milo Yulopoulos that night. And
I said, "Please don't murder somebody in
my home."
Yes, girl. What? Yeah. He brought his
little twink and left coke in my
bathroom. That's a fun story for you.
>> Not at the moment it won't because we
don't know what the rules are. Here's a
rule. No makeup in the workplace. Makeup
in the workplace.
>> That's [\h__\h] insane. I don't believe
it. I have so many eyewitnesses to that
story. It's actually insane. Some of
which I'm not even friends with anymore.
Former partners, but my mother was
there. So, yeah.
>> Isn't that sexually provocative?
>> No,
>> it's not.
>> No.
>> What is it then? What's the purpose of
makeup? Why do you make your lips red?
>> Because they turn red during sexual
arousal. That's why.
>> What?
>> Brother, do you know that I I love that?
Like Jordan Peterson is like this like
weird like pseudocience guy and he's
like uh your your lips turn red sexual
arousal. Yeah. You know that people also
did it because it was like the looking
at like healthy lips. What do you mean
your mom was there? Yeah, it was like
the time I lived with folks. This man
has zero sex by the way. Yes. His
daughter is just buted.
>> Why do you put rouge on your cheeks?
Same reason. I mean, look,
>> how about high heels?
>> What about high heels? What about that's
sexual? What happened videos? I'm not
saying that people shouldn't use sexual
dis.
>> I will say this, okay? I don't think the
video needed this.
This is a little bit This is a little
bit too much.
>> I'm not saying that, but I am saying
that that is what they're doing.
>> I understand you're at that genuinely
believed that most women who speak up
were lying or were asking for it. That's
how I felt for most of my high school
years. And you know, as a 16-year-old in
the content space, seeing, you know, the
Slazo story unfold as well as Spock when
he actually
>> the Slazo story. God damn it.
We can never escape it. We We can never
escape it.
For those who don't obviously obviously
uh for those who don't know friend we
diesel we're friends with FPS diesel as
well as quite the Slazo story has been a
story I have heard way too many times
before I even started content creation.
>> I don't even know.
>> That's a lie. You do
>> I don't really know it. I don't remember
who he been explained to me and I get my
my eyes glaze over because there's
>> Yeah, I would agree. I would agree. The
Slazo story is like one of those things
where it's like is it done? Is it done
with? Yes, it's done with
>> like false allegations. Um to then pro
Jared and then quite it just
>> not pro Jared.
>> No, not quite. Not quite, buddy.
>> Oh, I'll tell I'll I'll talk to
>> I'll tell my ProJared story later.
>> Oh, yes, you did see ProJared's [\h__\h]
That is right. We can never escape the
the Spock story. I can never escape
Quite's name being mentioned in stories.
reconfirmed that horrible
>> for those who ever make a video on quite
just just know that they did just don't
mention him.
>> Horrible worldview. When I went to
college, I knew
>> how Wait, how would they make a me video
about him and not message mention
>> I know I know I know this one of those
things. Um
>> what what I got confused what what
instructions
>> I don't know. I don't know. I just I
just every every time people people's
stories always get mentioned.
>> It's so annoying. It's not a It's not a
lazy thing. It's an everyone thing.
Wait, what do you mean shout out to FPS
Diesel? Lazy. Did you watch Diesel?
Is this what I'm going to learn now?
>> I wanted to do something with art, but I
also became like really fascinated with
like psychology and sociology and law.
And during those years, I finally shaped
those like hyperfixations and special
interests into what I actually wanted to
do with my life. I wanted to be an art
therapist that worked with sexual abuse
survivors. College educated me on a lot
of things,
>> which is pretty cool. Pretty based. I
used to
>> Fair. A lot of people keep saying,
>> "Oh, he's going to kill me later."
>> No, he doesn't watch us.
>> He No, he Well, who knows?
>> Uh he'll come in on the big boy account
and be like, "What' you say?"
>> I I love when Diesel does diesel things.
>> Mainly that people who lie about sexual
assault is actually incredibly rare. I
learned what perfect victim mentality
was and how damaging that is. I learned
what the legal statistics actually were
of sexual abuse and how underreported
and underrepresented survivor stories
were. I was becoming really passionate
about this. It was like my calling. I
could actually help people the right
way. Instead of just being a Twitter
doubter forever and then co hit and my
dreams died. Financially speaking, I
could have returned to schooling after
the lift of lockdown. But my life had
changed so much at that point. I was in
a new relationship. I worked factory
jobs. I moved out. All of which drained
those savings. And YouTube was more of
like a side hobby that I'd sometimes do
and then I would just forget about it.
In 2023, we got to a point where my
partner wanted me to pursue YouTube
full-time. And since I had all this back
pocket knowledge on how to research
these topics and still maintained my
interest in like just how human behavior
is, I thought, you know, why the hell
not? It'd be a good way to utilize that
dead dream of mine. That's sort of like
a condensed version of how we got here.
And why I even bring any of this up to
begin with is because throughout the
duration of the last two months, I
recognized an issue that it took all of
this to finally get me to realize.
Throughout the duration of my time going
full throttle on YouTube, I had gone so
far from one side of the spectrum, you
know, people lie about rape all the time
to the polar opposite of believe victims
no matter what. When what
>> I think that's a really interesting
introspective statement
because it is it's really hard to
it's really hard to cover some of these
stories and not have to feel like this
like weird feeling of skepticism that
you have to do.
because it does like I there's
I get it. Um
I
it's it's
there's like this weird weird feeling
regarding covering stories of abuse,
assault, and all the other things in
between that I always like have to sit
there and be like,
am I getting this wrong?
Is this like the worst thing I can do?
and like destroy a victim's testimony by
highlighting like all of these things
that I don't like about the testimony as
well as the inconsistencies and it's
just like it does suck. So, I do think
that like admitting that that's a part
of your part of the history and part of
the way that you make content and
overcorrected your content is incredibly
important. Um because I don't think
often times we we actually look at it
that way that we do like having balance.
Weird because that just seems to be
every [\h__\h] weird drama that I get
into. Having well-measured criticism for
both sides. For some reason, one side
always hates it.
>> What should have happened is that I
should have ended up somewhere in the
middle.
>> That's what I was going to say too. Um
cuz uh we've seen it a bunch of times
now, but Diesel's also mentioned it too.
like your ability to take criticism or
just take it on the chin as a as a
creator is kind of like a good barometer
of how well you'll do on YouTube or on
the on on online in general, right?
>> Yeah.
>> And and to be able to like own up to
that
>> I think is is really good on on Lazy's
part here. And a lot of the chat's been
been saying the same in different
aspects here and there, but but uh you
don't see it very often. And uh YouTube
definitely um garers a lot of people who
can't own up to that. So it's it is it
is uh
>> it's refreshing.
>> Yeah.
>> To say at the least.
>> I I find that there's this weird and
knee-jerk reaction
um from like creators who really don't
want to be perceived as wrong. Perfect
example is all the coverage on on Pirate
Software. Like Pirate desperately
doesn't want to be wrong because he
feels like it's a conglomerate of evil
people because he has convinced himself
that only evil people would disagree
with him and not the overwhelming
majority of people that just want him to
shut the [\h__\h] up.
>> And it's not only it and it's not just
the current Stop Killing Games [\h__\h]
It's literally everything he's ever done
he cannot be wrong on.
>> And that's it's it's just how he is.
It's just who he is. It's how a lot of
YouTubers are.
>> Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. God, I I did a
bed head look cuz lazy bed head and like
my hair is like weird. I never like
leave my hair like this. So, I've been
fiddling with it.
>> Do you have lazy bed head for this?
>> I did it. I I teased my hair a little
bit to make it like a lazy bed head
look. I didn't put I didn't put
conditioner in it uh to kind of make it
look a little bit like fussy, but Oh
god.
>> Leaf spelled we baith bean.
>> Hey, it actually did a pretty good job
with the old English. Thank you, dude.
>> Thank you. thing. Oh, is that that's old
English? I took an old English class in
collage bel um you know what it is. I
just think the natural human urge is to
be kind when you have to look at a
victim in a critical lens for the sake
of journalism feel so inhumane.
>> Yeah. Um
>> I disagree. I feel like a lot of
people's natural reactions to stuff like
that is like uh
>> I think
>> like a lack of empathy or a lack of
caring. That's the That's me. Maybe
that's me being cynical. I don't know.
What I was going to say is I think what
happens is people are either over or
undercritical and it like the general
public. Um it's like a weird thing. It's
a very because you see it when
allegations go just buck wild all over
the internet and then you're just like
but why why are why why are these doing
this? Or vice versa when allegations
don't break it and you're like what wh
what?
It it's I think it's like a to have that
critical lens is just a muscle that you
have to just like work on
>> middle and I thought by understanding
why people are like this that was at
least giving them a fair shake. Not
trying to like necessarily find an
excuse but understanding people better.
What I've witnessed in the many years
watching commentary content and like you
know being in the niche myself, you kind
of forget that the person that you're
talking about
>> is a person with maybe mental health
reasons or social reasons why they are
the way that they are. So I thought to
offer like a different kind of content
to stand out more, we would try to
explore that, have conversations about
why people are like this. Not speaking
necessarily like as an expert, just
trying to understand people better. And
that became the standard for a while,
but over time even that kind of got
sidelined. And all of that came to a
head with my Black Griffin video. Like I
mentioned, I learned about this story
over a year ago. I was working on the
Star Giant production story and my buddy
Phineas and I were just going through
the rundown of what that was all about.
We watched one of her tier list videos
of cartoon reviewers and Sabers Spark
was on that list, listed pretty high,
and I had mentioned liking his content
in the past, kind of being like on and
off it over the years. And Finn had said
that he didn't like Saber Spark because
he was friends with someone who met his
wife when she was a minor and he was an
adult. Obviously, this very much
>> obviously this is Gabe and Claire. lured
me as Saber has been someone who's
spoken out against this kind of thing
before in his content. So, needless to
say, I was very confused. So, I briefly
was educated about it. I read like a
wiki page about Gabe or something and I
thought, man, that's really weird. But
since we're already in the star giant,
>> I think that's a really like a fair way
to say, yeah, it's a weird relationship
>> rabbit hole, that's where my main
interest was focused on. And even that
became like a stressor in its own right
because midway through interviews and
production, I moved. And it took like a
few months to feel like really
comfortable in this new space. The video
was split in two parts, which wasn't the
original plan. I actually almost lost
footage throughout that process, and I
wasn't sure if I was going to be able to
like re-record or get any of that back
because none of my recording stuff was
even set up at that point. Then there
was the re-edit and the final cut, and
it all just kind of resulted in me just
forgetting about the Black Griffin
thing. So, a year goes by and Jenny
Nicholson is retweeting a Google
document about Black Griffin that
features even more allegations against
him. And soon,
>> God, Jenny,
>> Jenny Nicholson needs to butt out of
this one. Like, I I enjoy Jenny
Nicholson's content.
I I I do I genuinely enjoy Jenny
Nicholson's content. She needs to butt
out of this one.
>> Jenny is such a weird
interesting person.
I've asked around about Jenny from like
a few few like different people within
the brony space
and like it's a ve
she has a very mixed reputation from
what I've heard recently that like
It's very Jenny's reputation is weird
because on the outset from
a uh just an outward appearance like a
third party.
Jenny's completely fine. She's agnostic
from all these things. From what I know,
she tried to keep some of her brony
history a secret for a while and now
it's not.
>> Which she also made it public. She she
personally made it public. It wasn't
>> she personally made it public. But
that's what I meant.
that she kept it a little bit of a
secret for a period of time. Now it's
obviously not um by her own hand. And
and it is like a weird thing because
it is okay
to in my opinion and I know I've said
this to Claire. I get it. Um so I've
literally said this to the people
involved. I think it's perfectly okay to
feel weird by Claire and Gab's
relationship. I've openly said it that I
can't 100% never prove that like Gabe is
not a groomer
because of the like obviously the know
being an adult the entire time they
known each other is a weird thing and
it's not something I would do as a
relationship style. However, that being
said,
it was Jenny's then follow-up response
to Saber's response that I found very
weird, being like, "Okay, so Sabre may
not have raped this girl." But isn't it
weird that that he's still friends or or
hired fish
completely kind of skipping over the and
like is friends with Gabe? completely
skipping over the fact that Saber,
in my opinion, and the evidence kind of
indicates it, was falsely accused of
something that he did not do. And it's
her acting like he was never accused of
it.
And it kind of just shows how much like
how much Gabe like as Black Griffin was
so much more the focus of taking down
Saber was taking down the pillars of
Gabe Gabe and Cla's support network.
And that's such a weird
part of this story that I know I know
Lazy is going to get into,
but like Jenny has such a weird
relationship to the story. again. I
don't hate her. I don't know Jenny.
Jenny doesn't know who I am. I don't
care. It's just like it's such a weird
thing.
>> After that, Courtney Pete puts out a
video. Courtney and I connected back
when I had Twitter around March of last
year. We had a back and forth in DMs and
we followed each other for a little bit.
We had a mutual respect for each other,
but we weren't friends really, just kind
of like acquaintances in the same field
of content creation. Hell, by the time
her Black Griffin video came out, I
hadn't really spoken to Courtney in like
like
>> I can't call Jenny a clout chaser
because she literally
>> she's the biggest name.
>> Yeah, she is.
>> She's the biggest name here.
>> Yeah, I mean, yeah, her and Saber are
the biggest names of the story and Jenny
really never gets mentioned.
>> I would say I know I knew her before I
knew any of these other names.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Like it's it's it's very
very interesting.
Yeah. Yeah. I like how Bon continues to
call Saber a rapist despite there being
shady proof of it. Yeah. No, no, no.
Shaky, shaky, I would say. Yeah, you're
right. A year. But I have this video
sent to me and it reminded me of the
story. I'm like, "Oh, yeah. I I heard
about this story over a year ago." And
watching her coverage made me realize it
went far deeper and it's been an ongoing
conversation for the past decade. Plus,
the stakes were higher at that point. He
didn't just meet his wife when she was a
kid. He was now accused of exposing
himself to two people when they were
minors. Funniest thing is Courtney
reached out to me after my coverage on
Essis of Thought.
>> Oh my god, that's insane.
>> What?
>> She never reached out to us about well
about our cover.
>> Never. Maybe because she hates me.
>> That's true.
>> So, this has rapidly developed over the
past year since I had heard about it.
And I thought maybe I should look into
it. Maybe I should make a video, raise
some money for a charity I thought could
be helpful because I always wanted to do
that with my platform, but I was always
kind of destitute myself in cash that I
needed to be in a financially good place
before making huge But listen, we've
done this. We've done charity drives on
the channel, but even I know that I like
I we only donate to charity because a
lot this is not our main source of
income.
>> Nations. I think the only way to talk
about this video is to weigh out the
pros and cons. There's some things I
stand by it. Obviously, not everything
is like 100% solid. So, we should
address what is correct and what wasn't.
For the positives, I think this is the
most organized video on the topic. It
goes in chronological order. There are
chapters.
>> Okay. Self glaze supreme. Okay.
Self-glaze supreme.
>> So, it's easy to follow. I present
mostly everything. There's a first
draft, but in the grand scheme of
things, it doesn't really matter. If
you've never heard of these people are
up until this video, it serves at least
as a good rundown. I think my video was
the first and only one that actually
came out and presented criticisms of
Brony Fandon.
Yeah, at the time at the time I will say
they were criticisms but not
great,
>> which I know that you'll discuss, but
yeah,
>> other videos that came out at the time
either wouldn't mention Brody Fandone
and just refer to the document or they
would feature his
>> uh this is this is a fair act that like
I watched other videos, they have never
discussed Fandone
>> tweets without much critique of the
presentation or how he conducted himself
and I thought it was necessary to talk
about because I thought that a criticism
was needed. I mean, you're talking about
like really serious [\h__\h] You kind of
got to be acting better than this. I
think the editing was pretty good. It's
definitely one of my better looking
videos. I think it offered an outsers's
perspective looking into everything,
which is the position of like how most
viewers are. Hell, half of my comments
that I got on that video were just like,
I don't know any of these people or what
any of this is about, but needless to
say, I am interested. It might have been
easier to engage with as someone who
like isn't in the know, watching someone
who also isn't in the know look over all
this stuff. It just makes it more
relatable, I guess. I feel like most
people forget this part of the coverage,
but there was a nuance there. Like at
the first half of the video, I gave a
lot of slack to the claims with
>> even the 300page document says that
Fandon is cringe.
>> So, there's some truth in it.
>> Here's what I will say about that.
I believe that that's a way for the
document to have more legitimacy. And
that's not an actual take
because, and this is the fascinating
part, who is the person that promotes
that document the most? Who has the
largest platform?
It's Bonk. That's why I don't That's why
I feel like that is just an obligation
to condemn FanDote because they know
he's bad instead of an outright
um an outright uh uh separation from his
content and from who he is. That's my
issue. That is my issue
is that it just feels very tacked on. So
you as a viewer
um or you as a reader just know that
this guy's crazy, but it definitely
isn't involved with him. It's not the
fact that a lot of those screenshots and
victim testimony come directly from him.
That's like one of the big things that
like I I feel like people kind of forget
that like Destiny, Dorothy, all those
people, they go through Brony Phanto,
they go through Sophie Scrugs.
That's like the thing that's crazy to
me. Michelle because I just didn't think
they made a lot of sense for her to have
also been groomed because like if that
were the case wouldn't
>> Okay, I will agree with this. Lazy does
do right by Michelle in my opinion. Um
the problem for the dock makers that you
can't really remove the Black Griffin
allegations from Brony Fandom.
Absolutely correct. I agree. But it
doesn't help that Bonk shows it off like
like he will say, "But I didn't make the
document." but is the biggest purveyor
of it.
>> She have gotten married to Gabe. Now, it
has been speculated for a decade given
that Gabe was 22 and Michelle was 13 at
the oldest, that this was
>> Oh, surfy scruggs
>> a grooming relationship. And from all
accounts, including Michelle's, this
doesn't appear to be the case. Or at the
very least, there's not enough evidence
to say for absolute certainty. Even if
it was, and Michelle doesn't recognize
it, there's not a lot of physical proof
that this was grooming. I mean, sure, I
think it is fair to be suspect of a
relationship forming between a
13-year-old and a 22-year-old with
completely different power imbalances.
One, being a voice actress on a
prominent TV show with a fandom that
Gabe was a part of, but also Black
Griffin being a popular personality in
said fandom based on her show. I mean,
this is a weird friendship. Sure.
Especially given that this was only
really set up by Michelle's mother
reaching out and homing Gabriel. Is it
possible? Sure. But based on Michelle's
own testimony, that just wasn't what
appears to be happening in her own
personal assessment looking back on it
as an adult. I also said that I
>> uh we've talked about Michelle's
testimony, I believe. Okay. I don't know
if it's in the video. If it's not in the
video, uh Becket has the recorded call
so he could identify it. Michelle talks
about her relationship with Gabe. Her
relationship with Gabe was a one that
became a brother one, but one very much
influenced and controlled by her mother.
Gabe was brought on to make Michelle
more of a singer. Uh, Gabe was brought
on as a way for Michelle to also market
him. So, there was like a lot there's a
lot of stuff in there. I don't know if
it's in the video, but I believe it's in
the call that we had. Again, not
everything that was in there. Um,
Michelle identifi So, so Michelle's
statement, Michelle took her statement
down. Um, Michelle took her statement
down because she truly believed that
this was going to blow over the moment
she spoke because she was like, "Oh,
yeah. It'll definitely blow over because
I'm the closest to the both of these
people. Why wouldn't my word carry
immense weight? Because I wasn't
groomed. I'm not dating Gabe. Gabe is
literally like I view Gabe as a brother.
Will literally call him that. Why are
people People are going to let this just
go and it didn't. It just didn't. And I
think that it's one of those things
where it's like
people also forget if you look at the
context of that YouTube um the YouTube
comments, right? Jesus Christ, we are
like two hours in. We're not even 20.
We're not even an hour into the video.
Christ,
>> this is going to be a long
>> It's going to be a long one chat.
Remember to like and subscribe and do
the doobly-doo donation tip thing. But
like I think people also forget that the
fandom kept shipping Michelle and Gabe
together. Do you really think that, and
this is not me being mean to Mo'Nique, I
want to make that very clear. I have my
own feelings about Mo'Nique as someone
who had parents who wanted him to be
like a big singer actor person.
Do you like Do you think Mon'nique would
have said, "Yeah, you should piss off
the fans." No. It's just a you're just
going to have to deal with it. you're
just going to have to deal with it.
>> Expected Cla's decision to stand by her
husband and not identify as a victim. I
mean, I suppose I'd understand if it was
just Michelle and Claire because they
both choose to say that they were never
victims of Gabriel, which is completely
their decision. And even if I still have
my concerns, I do recognize their agency
and I respect their decision. But it
kind of got lost in that second half. I
think once it got to like the Destiny
stuff, that's when I said a lot of
things I absolutely shouldn't have. So,
let's segue into the negatives. Because
my strategy was so curated towards being
like an outsider looking in, I didn't
talk to anyone involved in the story. I
didn't talk to Michelle or Claire or
Destiny or Sophie Scruggs or Brony
Fandone. And this is pretty common in
commentary. Not everyone does.
>> This isn't this the standard is not
always to talk to everybody. Um, I just
did I just reached out because I thought
it was important.
>> Fergie, question. Do you think Bon went
on a crusade against Black Griffin
because he wanted to [\h__\h] the pony VA?
uh Michelle VA because he was a twisted
fox. So you would it would be Claire.
No.
Well, yes and no.
Um
Bon has outright stated that the biggest
reason he went after
uh Gabe to begin with was the racist
posts.
That was why he went after him. He still
to this day believes that even if
everything about Clare was false and
even the others,
he should still be outright uh um
outright banned from any production
because of what he perceives as racism.
Now, I have seen those posts.
It's Gabe kind of being incredibly
autistic about there was white slavery
and explaining what child slavery is
versus the current day slavery of of of
Africans in the US and the slave trade.
Like it is the most autistic thing ever.
I will not deny that.
But there's never been anything outright
that says black people inherently evil
born with bad brain. I haven't seen
anything linked to that. It's always
been, well, he liked these posts in
relation to
um bigotry
um as well as uh like this Candace Owen
post that is like um um against like
BLM. Yeah, the guy's like an
ill-informed centrist dork, but not a
big Yeah, that's that's what like it
really is. And and again, I'll say this.
Nobody cares
about the racism part. Yeah, it's mis
it's misguided criticism, not racism. I
think Axis has the correct way of saying
it.
It wasn't It's not even white savior BS
because
Buck isn't white.
It's like like it's it's weird. It's
such a weird like thing. And I like and
I've had like conversations with Claire
and Michelle and and like
these people have gay friends and other
things like that.
They're they're LGBTQ friends and
community members because they've done
things for those communities as well and
that includes Gabe don't see them as
that. So it's it's such a weird thing to
say
>> reviews and just talks about the
publicly available information. But no
one was asking for Claire or Michelle's
opinion at all. And when people like
Bonk did have private conversations, he
would just lash out and get angry.
>> Yes. And this is Bonk lashing out at
Claire.
>> Claire. Now, I did have an opportunity
like really early on to
>> uh if you want to clarify which Destiny
this is cuz some of the chatters
>> Destiny Doodles, not EHD. Destiny, we're
not doing that. I I will I will I'll
strangle myself.
It's not EHD. It's not EHD. Wait, I
thought Bonk was white. I don't think
he's white. I don't know. I'm not I
don't play that game.
>> I've seen his I don't have the chart. I
don't have a chart in front of me and
I'm not going to look at his photo and
I'm not gonna guess what I what I'm
saying is like this is not like this is
not like white savior complex [\h__\h] in my
opinion
is I don't believe it is um [\h__\h] If I'm
wrong I'm wrong. I'm challenging his
whiteness. God, I want to kill myself
now
>> to talk to Bonk. But due to his past
that I presented in my video and just
his attitudes towards Claire, I just I
didn't feel comfortable.
>> Yeah, I know BLM like did misappropriate
funds too. Yeah, there's a lot of
criticism on both sides.
>> Well, doing so. A lot of the reasons I
didn't talk to folks is just because a
lot of these people are on Twitter. I
don't have Twitter for very very good
>> pull the family guy chart. Pinta, you're
evil.
>> Literally what I was talking about the
thing I was
>> I hate all of you
>> reasons. I don't think I need to explain
what one of those are. Honestly, if I
did have Twitter, this video probably
would have looked a lot different. Like,
I don't
>> I will say this, and I've told Lazy this
personally. I criticize this. I think
that I understand that social media can
be incredibly addicting, but if you are
going to do research online,
especially when a lot of this stuff is
on Twitter, you need Twitter. You
legitimately like you need Twitter to
access files as well as access
information. You cannot just trust a
Google doc that has pictures of Twitter.
And I and I've told Lazy that privately
and publicly. I don't
>> even think any of this would have ever
happened. Maybe. Despite my respect for
Michelle and Claire's decision, I still
said a lot of [\h__\h] that I probably
shouldn't have that undermined that
respect. Like saying, "I am 23." And how
old are you, sweetheart? I am 14 years
old.
I'mma make you my bride.
I'm making my daddy love.
>> Hey yo, I hope for just, you know,
Claire's sake that she's happy because
although she may have been the lucky
>> 2D trash, thank you for the three
months.
>> 2D Trash TM became a member. 2D Trash TM
celebrates 3 months of membership. Our
Lord and Savior Google Docs.
>> Genuine question. If you care about
victims, like what do you do? Why the
[\h__\h] would you lash out at the victims
instead of being a normal person?
Because at a certain point, Bonk didn't
see Claire as a victim, but a
co-conspirator.
>> Yeah. It stopped becoming
>> Yeah.
>> Because the victim angle against Griffin
wasn't working. So, he had to pivot it
to something else to make it against
>> Griffin. When the biggest people who
would have been his victims are no
longer his victims
by what they're stating,
they have to be co-conspirators.
>> That got to be the Lucas to Gabe Zon.
>> Oh god, it's Onision. We can never
>> pretty bad. I'm I'm really sorry for
that one. It's like saying I respect
people with autism and then immediately
afterward calling them the Rword. It
just it doesn't mesh. It doesn't work.
There's also no indication that the main
whistleblower that's been compiling the
evidence against
>> thought this this stream was going to be
interviewing Lazy Bed. Well, they're in
the chat,
>> man. We're interviewing them
technically.
>> We're interviewing them technically.
They're in the chat.
>> Black Griffin,
>> it's a three-hour video. I don't want to
put Lazy through it again.
>> Being a pony fan don't has had any
contact with Ian Corlette.
>> That didn't age well.
>> I also thought people like Sophie and KP
were in some form a point of expertise
when they really weren't. If you were to
look back at Courtney's video, she
interviews both of them and platforms
them as if they're in the no. Like
they're experts. They are the general
consensus of the community when like
they're both crazy people. I kind of
took the Google document as gospel. I
mean, sure, there's some good points of
contention like the Deviant Art
comments. Even if this document, and to
an extent, even if Bonk says something,
I can somewhat agree with too much of
their compiling and analysis is too much
of a mixed bag. And when you're making
serious claims like this, you cannot be
a mixed bag. You have to know your [\h__\h]
So much of that document, in hindsight,
either doesn't provide an alternative
perspective, relies heavily on quantity
over quality, and straight up just adds
things in there that aren't proof of
anything. So, now that we've
self-reflected on that content, let's
talk about why it's gone. After Becket's
video, The Shaming of Sabers Spark,
where we get to hear from Michelle and
Claire for the first time,
>> I didn't mean I don't mind, but I'm just
high and would rather not be high. No,
Blazy, you're fine. You don't have
>> No, this is perfectly fine.
>> You don't have to do it. Let's again
>> I meant we meant we meant like you're
answering our questions in chat and
that's perfectly fine for for stream.
>> Yeah, you're totally fine. You like you
answering in chat is not an issue for me
because you and I have spoken privately
about your video as well as my
criticisms for you on your on parts of
your coverage. You are fine.
>> Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride.
>> Talk to Becket privately to understand
what all of his issues were with the
coverage. And after doing so, I concede
that he makes a better argument with an
exception to a few things. I am not
bringing this up as to like push for
anything. I just want to understand like
where Michelle and Clare are coming from
and like what explanations are there for
like some of the stuff that just goes
directly against what they're saying in
Beckett's video. Michelle claims that
Gabe would not have considered Clare his
friend. In fact, he was annoyed.
>> Yeah, this is fair criticism. I will
actually say this. Uh, and I've said
this uh I think I've said this to Becket
privately uh and I don't mind repeating
this. I think the Billy I know Beckett
said this out loud. I think the Billy
Bustup document was really bad. It was
ill advised for a lot of reasons, mainly
because none of them were like drama
content creators or they're a games
company.
I understand that what Gabe, Michelle,
and Claire define as friends is not what
they were to each other by their
account. But and this is and I've said
this to Claire. [\h__\h] I think I've even
said this to have I said this to
Griffin. No, I don't think so because I
don't really maybe. Yeah. Um because he
asked the comment once and we declined.
Um
one of the issues
is
there is a lot of public interaction
with them regardless. And I'm not
talking about cons, I'm talking about on
Twitter.
I understand that it's in a quote
unquote professional sense, but to say
that they like didn't talk that much, I
think is
an incorrect statement. I think a better
statement would have been their
interactions were measured and not at
all a like their public interactions
were not indicative of their private
conversation or or private relationship
or lack thereof
because saying, "Oh, we're not just
friends." even though there's a lot like
there's a there's enough to consider
otherwise even outside of acquaintances
is a hard cell and one I have pushed
back on
>> when Claire got his phone number we've
calculated now that Gabe and Clare met
outside of convention
>> and yes this statement is this timeline
they've done is fine it's the other
stuff that I have like it's it's the
it's the connections on Twitter that I
that I would say is like eh uh
>> roughly six to seven times. I know Gab's
definition of friends. I know he would
not have considered Claire.
>> And this is fine. This is this is fine.
But I think Lazy's I think Lazy's
criticism of this is fine as well.
>> A friend because he would consider
somebody a friend that he had, you know,
like contact with phone number. He only
had Cla's phone number I don't know some
point like 2017ish because one of her
parents gave him or no, one of her
parents gave Cla Gab's number and that
actually made Gab really uncomfortable.
was there when he first received a text
from her and he was like, "Oh god, why
did they give Claire my number? I don't
want her to have my number."
>> And I find this claim really interesting
because not only did these two
>> Yeah. like there's there's enough like
consistent like evidence that they've
discussed. Now, I did look at some of
these posts. I don't have them up
currently. There are times where they
talk and they're being added as um voice
actors because it's like in reference to
art or in reference to the fact that uh
like if this is if this is what I
remember is the crush one.
If I remember correctly, I think Gabe
and or Claire is added by a random third
party. And this is not necessarily Gabe
just jumping into the conversation,
neither Clare. However, these still
exist.
>> Constantly reply to each other.
>> Uh,
>> I mean, I would bring into question
though, was Cla running her own Twitter
or was it her mom?
>> So, from what I understand, it would
have been Claire. Uh, Claire, I don't
know. So, Ian, which is Claire's um
father, would have been a little bit was
more involved in um
>> is on Twitter, right? Uh, well, no, he's
more involved in her life than than her
mother
>> because you're thinking about Michelle
and Mon'nique.
>> Uh, okay.
>> I I don't have it on me, but I've looked
at some evidence.
Uh, like for for instance, right, I
don't have it on me and I'd have to find
it and I'm not looking for it right now,
unfortunately.
In the document, there is a reference of
a pool photo and it's Gabe is waving to
Claire because Claire takes the photo.
Do you know who's also in that pool
photo?
Ian. Ian is at the pool where Gabe and
Claire are also there because it's the
same day that Ian and Gabe actually play
together and Claire goes on uh Gabe
shoulders. And again, it's
again, I get it. It It's It's on the
outset, it's weird. It's also Gabe is
like allegedly waving to Claire. Uh I I
and I think Claire's either in the photo
or or taking the photo or it's Ian
taking the photo. I have to double check
on that one. But it's like one of those
things where it's like that's not that's
not what's happening again. And there's
other uh instances where they reference
um they mix up Claire and Michelle in
the document and it makes it even
weirder. So it's like it's very bizarre.
It's very weird. Um but again, I agree
with Lacy's assertion that this is this
is
It is weird
>> on Twitter, a platform with private
direct messages
really wanted to get a hold of Gabe
without his direct.
>> Oh yes. So it's this photo. Thank you
KJ. So allegedly it's this photo right
here.
It is this photo. Fun fact, they say
that he's waving to Claire. He's right
here by the way.
Claire's right here. In the document,
they say that this is waving to Claire.
She's right there. And interestingly
enough, from what I understand, who's
taking this photo is Ian, cuz Ian will
be in later photos on this rooftop.
Again, you know, that's just, you know,
the power of doing your own research.
It's almost like brony fandom and
everybody else is weird.
Uh, I've met I've met Claire and
Michelle. I went to Everfree Northwest
when I was 11. Lol. Gabe performed
there, too. Yeah, Gabe has done Hey,
that's pretty cool. Um, yeah, Gabe done
has done a lot of stuff. Again, they
they especially Michelle and Gabe uh
were a package deal.
>> Phone number. She could have just done
it through Twitter DMs or just replying
to him constantly on Twitter cuz they
just did that all the time. Also, Gabe
is literally right here saying that he's
friends with all three of the
>> Yeah, this statement. Absolutely. I
agree with this
>> mark crusaders. Both Clare and Michelle
would have been 17 and Clare would have
been 17 here as well, posting to
Instagram calling Gabe her friend. Well,
actually, she calls him a loser, but
obviously if she's married to the guy,
she must not think he's that much of a
loser. I am more than willing to just
accept that they were really good
friends through like working on My
Little Pony, you know, like work
constituents. I don't doubt Claire's
claims that Gabe was far more
professional to her than say like a lot
of other bronies. Like for example, I
just I just want to play this clip.
>> All right, so I'm pretty sure you're
aware of
>> this clip is the most insane thing I
have ever watched and this is the fifth
time I'm seeing it. Lacy, when I saw you
included this in the video, I almost
fell out my seat.
This is insane. I can't believe that you
included this.
>> Princess Leia being portrayed as a
tyrants and neutral and god forbid a
molester. The [\h__\h] princess molestia
is the craziest thing
>> and Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy on
occasion.
>> No.
>> Yeah. So, I'm gonna let you know who
>> gets [\h__\h] pushed.
>> Understand the darker side of the
fandom.
>> Also, by the way, Michelle and Peter
knew
>> not part of uh what I will talk about.
Yeah. So, that's a grownass man asking
that question to a 14-year-old Michelle
on stage. Well, to be okay, to be fair,
uh it's not to Michelle. It's to the
voice actor of uh Celestia. It's just
Michelle is on stage specifically, and
they all kind of have like weird com
like obviously the round robin panel
thing. Um
but holy moly to this, I think Gabe was
actually pretty normal. And that's what
I think the Black Griffin story should
have been about. You know, aside from
the conversation of like how [\h__\h]
victims can be and like how often
community and law enforcement can fail
them, I also think that there should
have been a conversation about like
things being normalized when they really
should not have been. Maybe
>> I agree with this.
>> That conversation like paired with the
story of Black Griffin could have made
for like a better video and made this
case a lot stronger. The My Little Pony
community online was like so anti-drama
that a lot of the things just
>> but they knew she was on the panel and I
doubt they didn't know her age. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't. No, I
know. I know. It's
It's weird to say in public to a panel
of voice actors, it's weirder if that
panel includes
>> a child.
>> Uh a child.
>> Yeah. A teenager. Yeah. It's again,
>> it's crazy.
>> Yeah. That was like who goes to Comic-
Con ask, "Hey, how do you feel about the
prawn of your I will never forget. Uh I
went to PAX East one year with friends
and who's the who's the dude that made
Bioshock? Is that Kevin Lavine?"
>> No idea. I could not tell you.
Where is
>> where is this video on Lazy's channel?
Uh, so Lazy did say that she took down
her um and I and I believe her her uh
criticism her uh reasons for taking down
the Black Griffin video I think are
fine. Um
uh it's no longer on our channel. Uh
this measured response serves as a
followup to that video. Yes, it's Ken
Lavine. Thank you. Uh I asked Ken I so I
went up as a joke because I never played
any of the Bioshock games. I actually
don't like them.
And
>> you don't like a lot of video games
though.
>> That's not true. I actually like a lot
of
>> That's very true. You don't like But you
don't play them. You don't have a lot of
time to play them.
>> But yeah, there uh but Ken, I asked him
how he felt about uh the cancelling of
Mega Man 3 legend Mega Man Legends 3,
which nobody on the panel understood. It
was the only thing I knew because it had
happened that week. It's very funny.
radar when it really should have been
called out. Nazism, full con, the whole
tomb critic thing for a lot of people
was just kind of concluded as
>> if we withhold forgiveness.
>> Not Dr. Wolf, you stupid [\h__\h] [\h__\h] you,
Dr. Wolf, you [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
>> It does not harm the wrongdoer in any
way.
>> Why do I remember this? I
>> He says this was this was in response.
>> This KP's video.
>> Oh, no. No. This is in Beckett's video,
but this is in response to a to a
guy in the Toon Critic. a guy, I believe
it's Student Critic, in the community,
um,
[\h__\h] preying on children and trying
to have sex with them. And this guy is
like, "We should forgive. We should
forgive the the the predator."
>> Forgiveness is not and never was for the
benefit of
>> Can you believe people say they feel
sorry for Dr. Wolf?
>> For what?
>> For what? He's just a [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
Like I don't feel bad. Uh do you like No
More Heroes? Yes. Uh Crash Out of Mega
Man Legends 3. So will I
>> the wrongdoer?
>> No. Brian Mullen's lang uh logic would
be uh
kill both the child and the predator at
the same time in the same room.
>> They they will uh they will what is it?
They will commit crimes again or they
will commit crimes in the future. One of
the two. They both got to go. Do
>> you know who Brian Mullins is? Lazy has
to know.
>> She may not.
>> It is for our own.
>> He's a pedophile, not a monster.
>> It is what enables us to finally release
the anger, the resentment, the hurt,
>> the poison that slowly turns our hearts
black.
>> Like, it's just kind of [\h__\h] weird. A
lot of the things in the Black Griffin
story I have a moral issue with. I just
don't think it's normal to meet your
future spouse when they're a minor in
your
>> Now, I will say this. Uh, I disagree
with calling it necessarily a moral
issue.
I said this in the Discord and then
Cloudy made fun of me for it. I will say
that and other people made fun of but I
will say this. You got to be very in my
opinion I think the wording is
different. I would just say for me it
just feels icky. Um
because
terrible people and I will say terrible
people will say it's a moral obl it's a
they have a moral uh um
uh a moral objection to like interracial
relationships which uh again I'll be hi
no that's [\h__\h] stupid that's
incredibly stupid by the way but I do
get what Lazy's trying to say I think
it's a very it's very hard wording
Um, so I don't fault them on that. Yeah,
ethics. I think I think it's like like
ethics more. It's like an ethical obl
like thing
>> to play devil's advocate. I remember
thinking Dr. Wolf was talking about the
religious meaning of forgiven. Dr. Wolf
did state he was Christian.
>> From what I know, Dr. Wolf is a Mormon.
I think I think I have been saved by I
have. Yes, you have been saved by
Superman Artemis. Uh, also fun fact,
Chris was upset Christian was obsessed
with Dr. Wolf. That's crazy.
Um, that's wild. Uh, but yeah, I think
ethical mor I don't hate the word moral.
It's just like one of those things where
it's like it's a hard like
again I don't hate I don't hate it
though. It's just it's always like a
hard thing
>> for an adult.
>> Again, I also don't disagree with the
sentiment and I've told Claire and Gabe
this like well Claire through Gabe.
Yeah. Um that I it's I still find it
icky. I don't hate them that they're
adults, but I still find it icky.
>> If I were to put myself in that
situation, I just don't think I would do
it. Like, I have a sibling who's a
minor, right? They're 16. If one of
their 16-year-old friends met me and
started talking to me and then they turn
18 and I immediately was like,
>> "You're lazy. You're fine.
>> I hit that."
>> It's just my it's it's my like
difference.
>> Oral is a big like like uh word that
people will take umbrage with uh in like
>> debate spaces or what have you. Yeah.
Um, sometimes a synonym for for like for
like ethical or you know moral isn't I
think it is an appropriate synonym in
context but I think people would pick it
out as like a as like a finger waving
situation but I don't I personally don't
care.
>> Uh
uh stop talking semantics. The video has
like three hours brother. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Pmenta you will be watching the VOD. You
will not be staying the entire time. I
think my parents would disown me. And I
know that that's probably personally
really offensive towards Claire. And I'm
I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be
offensive. It's just that this is my
channel and what I do on this platform a
lot.
>> Yeah. And again, you could still feel
weird by it. I I like I I I'm never and
we said this uh I haven't seen
definitive proof to prove for or against
it, but what I could tell you is that in
my conversations with Claire and
Michelle,
um
they like
anybody who I've anybody who myself and
Becket have discussed with regarding
Gabe and Claire is Claire. And I
speaking with Claire, she's a goddamn
fireball
and
she would have pursued whoever she
wanted. Yes, they did start dating at
20. I know some people get that
confused. It wasn't 18, it was 20. Um,
uh, but yeah, like it was just a
fireball.
Um,
so it is interesting. She wears the
pants of that relationship. You guys
have [\h__\h] no idea. That woman is
A fireball, not a fire wall.
>> That's okay. I I I've never heard that
term either, but I I kind of get
>> fireball wrecking ball, but she's
>> I wrecking ball.
>> Okay. Sure. Yes.
>> Is kind of opinion on my morals and tell
people what those are. And this is just
one of those things I I morally just
don't feel comfortable with. And I mean,
I get it. It's It's just my opinion. No
one asked really. So, I am sorry. I'm
not claiming that like Gabe is legally
wrong. I just don't
>> Oh my god,
this is for when Dor Oh my god, that's
hilarious. Thank you.
Wait, I found this for when the No, no,
no, no, no, no.
>> Did you mean firecracker? Small
>> firecracker. Yes.
>> Oh my god. Thank you.
>> I just don't think I can get behind
that. That That's all. I just think
morally it's just kind of odd. I also
don't think it's normal for industry
mogul to have
>> uh not to derail, but is Brian Mullins
Fox the guy the guy who argued for CP or
something? No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no.
>> So Brian Mullins
is weird. He doesn't believe CP is real,
but he also believes that uh you should
murder victims of child sex trafficking
and the sex traffickers
>> because they will grow up to become
abusers. Uh, Dan's burst is an
interesting character that I had an
interview with that did believe for
that. They thought CP was okay. It's a
whole big [\h__\h] thing.
>> I was a random internet musician to live
with them and their 13-year-old child. I
don't think it's normal to call a fan of
your music baby Honey or Babor.
I think all of that is just really
[\h__\h] weird. And if that's argument, I
don't think a lot of people would like
necessarily disagree. However, what Bonk
wants to do is not only inflate these
moral issues in terms of like a legal
matter, but now they want to fight with
Clare and Michelle when they don't
identify as victims. Bonk even goes as
far as to call them just as awful as
gay.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
>> And I just I don't see how that helps
anyone. Why doesn't Bonk just like
assist more with Destiny and the
Snapchat victim? Why not like help them
get their missing evidence instead of
just
>> Yeah. Yeah. Bonk, why not help these
people get their missing evidence,
buddy?
I wonder.
>> Relying on their testimony alone. As
much as testimony is important evidence
as far as the law is concerned, it more
so counts as circumstantial evidence
than anything else. I mean, Destiny and
this other victim, both of their stories
are strikingly really similar. And if it
does establish a pattern of behavior,
>> striking
almost too. Now, see, this is where uh
Fal's uh thinking cap goes on. It's like
they're too similar. Almost like they're
way too much of a similar story to be
real. That's my prevailing theory.
That's me. That's great, but I think
people are just asking for more. And I
can't say that I necessarily blame them.
I think the biggest problem with my
video was like seeing Destiny come
forward and seeing her just get tossed
to the side. It got me so worked up at
just how she was being treated that I
just thought that was enough to crusade
on. And sure, I can get mad at that all
I want. I think it's really shitty. And
even though I do specify it's just an
allegation, it doesn't help to say that
and then also say this. Now, since this
was when Destiny was 13 years old,
hindsight is 2020, so none of the chats
or this dickpick was ever documented or
screenshots taken. So, for now, these
are just allegations from memory.
Although, I do think this testimony
coming forward does.
>> Didn't Sai say that Deviant Art was just
prototumbler at that time regarding BG?
>> Uh, I believe you're dead. Superman has
saved you.
>> Superman has saved you? I believe so.
But since that person now for some
reason thinks I'm like a sex pest cult
leader, I can't ask them that.
Also, allegedly, they're crashing out at
like random chatters in one of Liio's
biggest a loggers.
They're still winning her. Hooray for
her prodoxing takes.
Oh, she this sort of confirmed the
sneaking suspicion that people have had
about Gabe for years up until this
point. Since the removal of my coverage,
a lot of people have speculated that the
reason why is because I was threatened
legally. This is not true. I've never
been slapped with any legal notice.
Claire has never reached out to sue me.
I was never asked to do anything. No one
>> No, Deep sea. You get no explanation for
what I just said.
>> Me to take it down.
>> Yeah, we're only 37 minutes in. I'm
trying
>> my content to be two things. Helpful and
solid. Is my coverage helpful?
Sure. To anyone who is unfamiliar with
the story, maybe it helps the outsiders
who have no idea who anyone is. But is
it helpful to Michelle and Claire, the
voices that actually matter? No. If
anything, it actually
>> I think that I again I'm I know there's
a lot of lazy talking right now and not
showing a lot of
>> What's your video? She can talk.
>> I was going to say um and not showing
like the behind thescenes stuff that she
will do later. This is a really
interesting introspective
that I appreciate.
Like I'm not I'm not like being
faciciously glazing. I'm not being nice
because I'm I'm a fake soy that some
people I guess [\h__\h] believe. Um
uh but like no, this is like
legitimately a very very
like interesting introspection that I
don't think a lot of people do. Just
being like I think my video hurt the
people I thought I was like actually
helping
>> really hurts them and for that I am
really really sorry. I'm really sorry
that I didn't speak to either one of
you. I just
>> Fouchy, have you ever did a Mario Luigi
cosplay? People keep [\h__\h] asking me
that. I know. Uh, no. I would to do it.
I would to do I It's a me, Mario.
>> He started doing it before he even
started. I would I would to do it. I
would do it.
>> I would to do it.
Thank you for playing my game.
>> Didn't have the ability to. And I wish I
could. So, please accept a more
>> buy a switcher, too.
>> $90
JoyCons.
>> It'll uh What is it? It'll break your I
was gonna say it'll breakick your PC,
but it'll that thing that thing will
brick your Switch, too, which is
hilarious. Log into your Switch. You log
into your Switch One account, you may
break Well, did you hear the new thing?
>> Oh, I did hear about that. I did hear
about that. Yeah.
>> Uh that if you buy like a pre-owned game
or if you use an old Switch cartridge,
it may actually lock you out and brick
it. That's insane.
>> Fantastic.
>> They put like too much DRM on it.
>> I mean, Nintendo.
>> Yeah.
>> Or public means of apologizing. I should
have been far more charitable and
respectful of your stance and I'm sorry
for not taking your perspective into
consideration. Is my content solid?
Well, without Michelle and Cla's
perspective, no, not really. There are
certain parts that I do stand by, like
criticisms of certain people and
morality, like I can play moral high
horse all I want, but nobody nobody
asked and nobody cares. But certain
things were taken at face value when
they should have been thoroughly
examined. It's too much of a mixed bag
and for not doing my due diligence. I'm
really really sorry. My video should
have concluded on something that wasn't
so definitive. My final thoughts on
Gabriel C. Brown should have been like a
maybe. The thing is I'm still like
morally opposed to a lot of the things
that he's done and how similar Destiny
and the Snapchat victim.
>> Watch the stream on a Switch, too.
They'll heal Falga impersonation of
Mario and then they'll be pirated.
That's [\h__\h] up. Lazy, god damn it,
Lazy.
Uh what's what's a Mario? Mario.
Uh Luigi like Mario.
I I think that's how that's how I do it.
>> Dumb stories are. And with the Deviant
Art comments, I'm just not comfortable
with like 100% saying he's innocent or
100% guilty. When I first made my video,
I came at it being really certain that
he was, but after
>> Can you do that too? Well,
>> yeah, I I can do.
>> Okay, now it's my turn. Now it's my
turn. Go for it.
>> Here we go.
>> Hey, what's up? It's me, Mario. Okay,
now I'm going to do [\h__\h]
>> Now I'm going to do Guardian of the
Galaxy. It's me, Guardian again.
>> Go on.
>> And now I'm going to do the the dude
from Jurassic World. Hey, what's up?
It's me, the dude from Jurassic World.
>> You're such an [\h__\h]
>> Hold on. Hold on. Such an [\h__\h]
>> Hold on. Hold on. What else is he? I'm a
dude Garfield. Okay, hold on. Yeah. Hey,
what's up? It's me, Garfield.
>> You're such a dick. Becket and listening
to the criticisms of the community,
>> I'm just not really sure. I just think
that Gabe is the result of a community
that normalized things that shouldn't
have been. I mean, believe it or not,
the grooming claims of like Michelle and
Gabe actually come from years of the
community actively shipping them
together, not speaking out against their
relationship, but actively like wishing
they would become an item. In Michelle's
testimony, when she's talking about like
all of these gross comments that her
parents had to see, it wasn't about
grooming allegations. It was all of
these grown ass people online shipping a
16-year-old with a grown ass man. That's
not normal. The fact that people had
conversations justifying their ship of
these real people, one of which was a
minor and the other was an adult is
really [\h__\h] weird.
>> Man, thank you, boss.
>> Greg has such range.
>> He does.
>> You know, you know who else has range?
Superman. And you have been saved, metal
man.
>> How the community was and it's really
[\h__\h] to Claire and Michelle. The video
I made caused more harm than intended.
It platformed Bonk and Sophie in a way
that treated them as people with
integrity and worthy of criticism when
they should have been worthy of
condemnation and for not doing that. I
am so so sorry. That's why I took the
video down because it hurt those girls
and I I don't want to hurt anybody.
>> I just want to do what's right, what I
think is right. And I guess I'm doing
that now. But this whole thing goes so
much deeper than any of us could have
imagined. Rooney, fan don't and the
people behind this thing as an entity
expands further than just Gabe. So,
let's talk about Saber Spark. For some
reason, people think I'm unqualified to
do this.
>> Oh, KP. Well, chat, I am curious. I've
heard rumblings that KP was going to
make a response video. I wonder if this
is going to happen now. Um, I know KP
locked her Twitter.
I know KP has not talked to Lio in some
time. Uh I am very curious if she is
going to make the response video I keep
hearing is supposed to happen.
>> We Huigo and Huist we go and he arist we
go and hist and say Morgan.
>> Thank you. Thank you and Ben and say um
I am Morgan to you too. Also you have
been saved by Superman. Guys, don't cut
the content. I think KP I think Listen,
KP, just one more video. Just one more
post and you will be saved by Superman.
>> So, here's the two here's one of three
options that will happen for KP. KP will
make the response. Two, KP will make a
video that has nothing to do with this
and act like nothing has happened.
>> No.
>> Three, KP will never be heard from
again. I don't like Listen, if we're
going to be real,
KP's career is over. I don't There's no
You don't come back from this. I heard
Bon make a video. Yeah, we went over it.
>> Not I I I'll
It doesn't exist till it exists, right?
You You don't We don't have it till we
have it.
>> I'm waiting for it. Bonk. Listen, I tag
Bonk in all of these streams. Bonk, you
know what to do. I know you're here to
something. The same day my Black Griffin
video dropped, I was connected to I Love
Kim Possible a lot through our mutual
friend Phineas. KP had been working on
some
>> uh so this is just Phineas connecting KP
uh yada yada yada yada. I don't feel
like reading these are needed.
>> Video that she'd been brewing up since
September of last year. She needed voice
lines and
>> uh KP sorry I've been around. I don't
know. Uh we have some older VA lines. Hi
KP. This is Chris. Oh so this is just
the lines that she was asking to read.
It's our understanding that
DA games. I've heard rumblings about
this rumbling rumbling
>> and asked if I could read a reply email
from DA Games. Here's how I usually go
about like providing voice work in
content creation. I'm very
indiscriminate with who I work with
unless that person wants me to like read
something that like strictly goes
against my morals. Like I'm not going to
like provide voice work for like example
um if someone was making like a pro map
video or something and was like
advocating for adults to date minors and
they want me to like voice something.
I'm not going to provide my voice in
that. Like that's a very extreme
example, but like I have standard. If
someone needs a voice line, I usually
>> Hey, if you want me to voice something
in your video,
>> hit me up.
Just don't make me crazy.
>> Do it pro bono. I don't really care much
for voice work. I just see it as another
way to like network, expand my reach,
make connections, and be helpful to
those in my niche. And besides, I'm just
a YouTuber. I'm not a voice actor. I
don't have rates because voice acting is
not my job. It's video creation. Voice
acting and cameo work.
>> No way. There's no way.
>> But I do have rates, chat. And you will
adhere to them. I don't have rates, but
you could just get me. There's no way
that Bon actually answered horror in
Hellfire. There's no way they did
just ends up being a bonus. I worked
with other content creators and featured
in larger videos in the past, so I
didn't think this would be any
different. But there was another reason
why I wanted to talk to KP. When the
Black Riven story was in full swing, KP
was reaching out to content creators
through mutuals to find people who would
cover the story. This was when she had
Bonk in her discord server working with
and getting more details of what the
>> Now I do remember knowing that Bonk was
there
>> were and helping the victims. So KP was
working on the stuff surrounding DA game
>> lazy make a doodle tones video and make
Fiji voice doodle killer. Why would you
do that? I'd have to use the [\h__\h]
voice changer.
>> You wouldn't have to.
>> You'd get to.
>> Ah, that's true. I get to.
>> That she didn't really have the time to
talk about Black Griffin. So she started
reaching out to other content creators.
Funnily enough, one of her contacts that
she tried getting involved in this whole
thing was Anamant. I don't know who
Animat is.
>> I don't know who Animat is. Chat, this
is the one time you can pipe up and tell
us who that is.
>> I don't know who Animat is, but it's
crazy. That's ex I can't believe that
she got an that she was trying to get
involved. God damn it, KP.
>> What the hecky,
>> what if you He's a cartoon reviewer. God
darn it.
>> I I could tell from the PFP.
>> I wonder. Yeah, I was about to say
there's no way that he he's a cartoon
reviewer. I'm sorry.
>> Fedora animation reviewer. That's all I
need to know.
>> That's all I need to know. Animat is a
nostalgia critic like that's
>> okay. Nostalgia nostalgia critic like
parenthesis good. Nostalgia critic like
parenthesis derogatory.
>> The fedora guy. Random astro
debate. First was Courtney Pete.
Courtney's video is interesting for two
reasons.
>> Remember guys, Courtney Pete is a crazy
[\h__\h] KP is interviewed in said video,
which made me believe that she was
closer to the Black Riven story than she
actually was. In reality, the
>> He's a Disney adult. Oh no.
I'm so sorry. That's [\h__\h] cringe.
>> It's not the worst you could be.
>> But it is pretty bad.
>> I'm sure I'm sure he's a great guy.
Don't say Mr. Hinter.
>> I'm sure he's fine.
>> I'm sure it's fine. Better than dogs.
>> Dog Six, but worse than I who the [\h__\h]
is Dog Dogs? I know what Rebel Taxi is.
>> The [\h__\h]
>> Oh my god, I feel like my mom.
>> The only reason she was involved was
because she was friends with Sabers
Spark, who was friends with Black
Griffin, who Courtney heavily
criticizes. And according to even KP
herself, Courtney is involved and she's
been calling Saber worse than Gabe
Public. Only reason she was involved
made me believe that she was closer to
the Black Griffin story than she
actually was. In reality, the only
reason she was involved was because she
was friends with Sabers Spark, who was
friends with Black Griffin, who Courtney
heavily criticizes. And according to
even KP herself, Courtney is involved.
And she's been calling Saber worse than
Gabe publicly for a reason. Now, I
should
>> Which why this for the record, neither
KP nor our mutual Phineas asked me to
make my Black Griffin video. I did that
entirely on my own after reading the
master document and thought there was
enough interesting stuff in there for me
to talk about. I only found out about
KP's involvement through Courtney's
video. And even then,
>> you know what? I need lazy one of these
days.
Thank you, Artemis, for the five.
>> Soy silian f this. Check out dogs eating
dogs.
>> Thank you. Um
I think that one of these days Lazy
needs to like give me an animation
reviewer tier list based on their
dramas.
>> That's That's pretty good.
>> That would be really interesting. I kind
of want to know and I don't know
anything about them.
>> When we did get in contact, we didn't
even really talk about Black Griffin.
She just wanted me to do some voice
work. However, what really made me want
to speak to KP was some comments that
she left on my Black Griffin video.
Great video. Sorry, I couldn't be of
more help. Dealing with more than one
gross person at the moment.
>> God, this [\h__\h] weirdo kept like
hyping up I'm going to out a a a rapist.
It's so weird. Drama tier. I don't know
anything about cartoon reviewers, but
I'm curious if they have drama and if
there's a tier list.
>> XD, Saber Spark's been real quiet. It's
going to get worse.
>> And listen, I know Jar is going to be at
the top of the list, but at least let me
dream.
>> Didn't we didn't we see these comments?
I feel like
>> I feel I feel like I have looked at this
comment before.
>> Not these because we wouldn't have seen
this on Lazy's video at the time. I We
don't think we actually looked. I guess
I guess I guess but you know what she
had been saying that like everywhere or
elsewhere. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Foreshadowing. So these comments were
really odd. For one, why was KP this
innocuous person who makes like Kim
Possible and funny videos dealing with a
bunch of gross people?
>> I understand.
>> What are you talking about? And also,
what the hell does she mean that things
are going to get worse for Sabers?
>> What does that mean? No, because I
didn't have Twitter. I was not aware of
the fact that
>> I forgot about these. All of this.
>> I don't ever remember these. All of
these. All of these.
>> We had been hyping up a multi- predator,
>> bro. Imagine.
>> Okay, I remember these.
>> Imagine hyping up a like a pedophile
expose video or a rapist exposed video
like it's a like it's a [\h__\h] cartoon.
This is like the most insane thing.
What?
>> Asterati became a member.
>> What are you telling me?
>> Of membership. Dead Six was a grown man
beefing with 10year-olds.
>> I hate all of them. I hate this. Is he
dead?
>> Is he no longer? Yeah. Why was the was
is ominous.
>> Jose for months. All I was aware of was
this totally not subtle foreshadowing in
my comments. And admittedly, because I'm
a nosy [\h__\h] who was also critical of
Sabers.
>> Uh I'm kind of nosy. Yeah, same.
>> We're all nosy. We would get along. I
kind of want to I will say after the BG
stuff, you have me suspicious.
>> Gabe, I wanted to know what the [\h__\h] KP
was talking about. Now, if you've seen
Cartoon's coverage, you would know that
a lot of the voice actors were given
little to
>> Yes. Yes. None of them knew what the
[\h__\h] video they were into.
>> No context to what they were lending
their voice to.
>> Um, somebody commented on our stream
about it.
>> Yes. Yes. Somebody commented on our
Yeah, somebody commented on our first
stream that was like, "Hey, I didn't
know what this was for. It
>> was very cool. Very based. Very pogies."
>> Wait, was it our was it our stream or
was it
>> one of the re-uploads? But I believe
someone our stream too, but I could
>> maybe maybe I remember seeing that rule
for some reason.
It's interesting that you got like so I
find this very interesting that Lazy was
told everything
I think or what she was reading.
If my understanding is I think that
because Lazy's Black Griffin video got
off so much
>> KP was relying on like other people's
word of mouth to give her credibility.
It's why she used Lio. It's why she used
Courtney. It's why she got like June the
King and all these people because she
wanted the video to take the [\h__\h] off
and she wanted
>> the same way
>> in the same way that the Lazy's black
video did.
>> Same way Lazy's videos or June's videos
take off. Yeah.
>> Which makes me feel like a [\h__\h]
[\h__\h] to the voice actors who had lent
a hand without context. I am so sorry
that you were dragged into any of this
without the much needed context that I
was.
>> Man, I thought she saw me as numbers to
be honest. I mean, yeah, she probably
did.
>> Yeah. Many such cases that weird people
see each other as numbers.
Many such cases that weird people just
see each other as numbers and not just
like
it's very weird.
>> What are you talking about?
>> Makes me feel like I got like
>> special treatment. I I don't appreciate
that at all. I would have liked if
everyone was given the full extent of
what they were signing off on and not
just me. Even though I was given like
most of the context, more than most, I
was randomly presented this context
within the span of like six days as I
will present now. KP said that she would
provide context to what I was reading if
I asked. I did and I got the whole
>> Okay, you got the context. Yeah, it's
going to reveal. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Okay.
>> Spiel on like who Chris was, what DA
Games was getting accused of. And
>> Fouchy is 1.47K to me. Listen, Kev, can
we get that to 1.5? Can I be 1.5 to you,
Kev?
Chat, can we get to 1.5K?
Is that so hard? No, I'm kidding.
>> 35.
>> He's That's not nice. He's younger than
35.
>> That email that I was reading was what
KP got.
>> The safety report [\h__\h] is insane. By the
way, do you uh Lazy, do you know we got
a safety report before she deleted all
the safety reports?
Um,
I I legitimately got a safety report cuz
they were like bitching in her um in her
Discord about me and then magically all
the safety reports disappeared. Very
fascinating, KP. Very fascinating.
>> In response to trying to make Chris's
sexual misconduct known. And you know,
at first knowing what Chris had done and
admitted to, I was on KP's side
initially. I mean, I wouldn't be
comfortable either if one of my former
colleagues told a bunch of people that
they jacked off on my clothes.
Regardless of how you feel about KP,
that's just objectively really gross.
>> Oh, Chad, it's time to feed those dogs.
>> It's time to feed the papa.
>> Yes, you sent me stuff about de. Okay,
drummer. One day we'll do the Thank you,
>> dog.
>> Thank you. We hit the Oreo chat. It's
time to feed the puffers. It's time to
give her treats.
Look at her. It's time to feed the dog
now
on the uplock stream tonight. Yes,
everybody. It's time to feed that dog.
Go get it, girl. Look at her. Look at
her. Look at her. Look at her. Look at
her chew. Look at her munch and crunch.
400. No. Never. This dog This dog will
>> She's not that expensive.
>> Oh god. It's like the singing is a
trigger. It is unfortunately.
>> It is.
>> It is. Every time
>> Thanks for the raid.
>> Every time FGC,
>> didn't you stream before? Hey, thank you
for the raid, but did you stream twice?
>> You stream. There's no law against it.
>> No, I I didn't say he didn't.
>> I follow a VTuber that streams like
three times a day.
>> Was that
>> It is very unhealthy.
>> Was that 15? Okay, we're at 20 now.
>> All right, I have to I have to always
have to time this correctly.
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Feed that dog.
There you go, chat. Let's go.
>> Even as a joke, it's just sexual
harassment and weird. But considering,
you know, all of this, I had to know,
what did this have to do with Saber
Spark?
>> Oh, testing yourself.
>> And the answer was he employed Chris.
So, here's what I thought this video was
going to be. Similar to my Black Griffin
video, I thought this video expose would
be about Chris and Da Games, and Sabers
Spark would look like a hypocrite
defending Chris,
>> which is fair. Again, I I I
have criticisms of of the way with the
Chris stuff because it was the Chris
stuff. And yes, I I've heard there's new
stuff with the DA game stuff. Uh that I
don't 100% wholly believe. Uh, I think
one of them is
um I believe one of them is that they
were testing a bot and the bot randomly
put in like the the uh
uh the lolly stuff. I don't know how
that I don't believe that. But again, me
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who has a to sexual misconduct the most
you could go on. I was gonna say the
Chris Saber Spark stuff is pretty bad if
you don't have like the dates. Like
yeah, the events that that this happened
with were
>> I think eight years prior.
>> Yeah.
>> And then KP's conversations with Sabers
Spark
>> was two years.
>> No, with Chris. But then with Sabers
Spark after that, the correspondence
after that were like in
>> a year. It was in 2024 to 2025. Yes.
>> And and it's like Yes. It's bad. But he
didn't employ him because of that
either, nor did he know about it. And I
don't know if that gets shared in these
DMs with Lazy from KP.
>> I mean I mean Lazy doesn't know about
it. I also think like the other Well, I
don't think it gets shared like this. I
I think the other thing too
>> is
I think the other part that I don't
like about it is I don't think Saber was
aware about the DA game stuff. I don't
think that that was ever
uh enjoy your new job, Slug. Um, to my
understanding in speaking with Sabers
Spark, I don't think Saber was aware of
what was going on in the DA game server
in and around Chris. That's the issue.
The only reason I don't believe it's
only because the post of the Lollcon
were posted in 2018, but when that
document came out in the first draft
before the final, all the lollycon stuff
was deleted from 2018 was deleted. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. I know
about that. Well, that's that's why I'm
like a little weird on that excuse.
the DA game stuff has like evolved
weirdly.
>> Um,
>> but again,
>> and it's not only Chris involved in that
either. There's like other
>> it was the Will guys, too.
>> Um, but again, like there's other parts
to it too that like I don't from what I
when I talked to Saber, he was not aware
of the DA game stuff.
>> He just wasn't. So, like what am I
supposed to do?
>> say about Saber Spark is that the
company he keeps makes him look like a
hypocrite.
>> That's from my recollection. I can't
remember if that's Don't quote me. I
can't remember every conversation I've
had with people.
>> And that's all really KP had. I advised
her during our first conversation to
address the criticism Saber had made
about recording a Discord call without
all participants acknowledging and
consenting to record as it was something
that even I was critical of KP during
our first conversation. I think I can
see it from both perspective,
>> which is fair, which is like that's a
fair thing. Uh especially in that
regard. Again, I I live in a one party
consent state, but I'll be very real. Uh
even though I live in a one party
consent state,
um
I still tell people that I'm recording
calls and I don't record a lot of calls.
The any
the any calls that I would record are
for content purposes only.
>> Like I do not think that was something
you should have done without clarifying.
But at the same time, I would understand
you'd want to have recorded evidence of
Chris taking responsibility for his
actions so that if he tried to dodge
>> Listen, if it makes you feel any better,
Lazy, I we had some of the And this is I
know some of the the victims of the DA
game stuff are still in our uh our
audience as well as they were in our
Discord at the time. I I'm still like
looking at it. I'm still also very
confused by it. I'll be the first one to
say that. Um I tried looking into it.
There's some inconsistencies.
It It's That's a whole monster. I just
like I don't have access to every
Discord log. That's the problem.
>> Accountability. You'd be able to show
him admitting to everything said in the
safety report. I can understand Sabre
getting upset over recording without
consent because that wasn't cool at all.
And he probably wanted to white knight
his friend as he tends to do so very
often. But at the same time, what Chris
is apologizing for and admitting to is
very gross and weird and uncomfortable.
And so calling him a liar is like his
own personal apology. It's like,
>> but there's also the there's also the
weird context of the fact that yes,
Chris said those things, but it also
comes off on the weird backdrop of the
story was not repeated multiple times.
It also comes on the weird backdrop of
um him apologizing years later and the
story never being used again. It also
comes on the weird backdrop that that KP
misrepresents why Chris went to the con
with her because he went as staff and
not as like a friend meeting up cuz KP
does misrepresent things.
>> Steven read the room. My god. And in
some ways I still do kind of feel this
way in regards to Saber Spark's
response. He really just boils down KP's
complaint against Chris and himself as
>> the joke was inappropriate but it was
told nearly 10 years ago. He profusely
apologized to me as well and admitted to
his faults. I believe in the inner
growth of a person and that they can
change for the better. He did good work
for the team. I was surprised though
that KP thought she had the ability to
dictate who I hire and fire for my own
team.
>> From what is alleged in the DA games
allegations, afficionado's Chris not
only engaged in racist memes in the DA
game server back in 2016.
>> No one really cares about the racism,
but I guess
>> which is a year after his sexual
misconduct, but Will also shared not
safe for work lollycon images in Chris.
this I care about
>> server in 2018, 3 years after the fact
from KP's perspect.
>> And again, it's Will sharing it in
allegedly Chris's server, which was
something that was also misconstrued in
KP's video. Uh that was also hard to
find. Everyone thought it was in the DA
game server. It was allegedly in a Chris
private server. Allegedly, Will was
testing a bot to share the lolly stuff.
It's It gets really confusing.
his apology doesn't really mean much at
all. Chris's behavior actually got
worse, even borderline criminal in the 3
years since. It doesn't make this
interaction any better given what Chris
and Will were actually doing. I'll give
this to Saber Spark. I too also believe
in the growth of a person. And these
things did happen well over 10 years
ago. It's very possible that the person
Chris is today is not the same person
that he was a decade ago. Personally, if
I'm going to make this stance on
Lollcon,
>> for those who are not familiar with the
term, let's just say it's a
leading up to this point, an had gone
through a number of mental and physical
health issues as a result of trauma from
childhood sexual assaults, among more
recent issues. They stated that per the
recommendation of their therapist, if
true, one outlet for venting their
pent-up emotions was drawing shodda art.
Now, I really don't want to have to
describe this term, but okay.
>> Excuse me. What? What the [\h__\h] are you
talking about? What is this from? Who
are you? What do you mean? Oh god, it's
food shops all over again.
>> That's what it feels like. I don't know
what this from.
>> We exist in a hell. Oh, what happened?
>> Uhoh.
>> What you did?
>> Oh, there we go. Oh god. Oh no. Hold up.
>> What' you do? Hello. Testing chat. Chat.
>> No, you. They can hear me. My
headphones.
>> Say Superman if you can hear me. Chat.
Chat. Say Superman. Superman now.
Superman.
[Music]
Watch him as he goes
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there. Whoa. Why is it by now? The
volume's weird. Can I hear myself? One,
two, one, one, one, one, one, one, one.
Can you hear me? Okay, I could hear you
now. I can hear me. It's weird. This is
uh this got weird. Very I this I God, I
need to figure out this mic cuz the mic
just disconnects randomly now.
>> Yeah, I'm going to have to figure it out
later.
>> I have to show art refers to adult
material featuring cartoon characters,
specifically young boy characters. One
of the pairings they would draw rule 34
of was Frankie Foster and Mac from
Foster.
>> I hate this or Zim. from Invader.
>> I don't like this person. This p this
person.
Oh, wait. They can't hear you now.
That's weird. Uh oh. Hold up. Hold up,
chat. I'll fix it.
I'll fix it. Hold up. I will. [\h__\h]
God damn it.
Sorry, chat.
Greg, start speaking.
They can't hear my Discord at all now.
I don't know why they can't hear my
Discord. Discord's not playing.
Hold up, chat. I'm trying to fix it. I'm
trying to fix it. I'm trying to fix it.
Trying to fix it.
Uh,
keep talking.
Try leaving and coming back, but I don't
know what happened.
Uh, check Discord output device. That's
what I'm doing right now
because I can hear him, so it shouldn't
be. This is weird. Start speaking.
No, they can't hear you on my end.
Uh, hold up. Let me figure out what's
going on. Uh, Discord, Discord, Discord.
God damn it.
It's not
It's not me.
Check OBS output. That's what I'm doing.
Um,
trying trying. Sorry about that, chat. I
don't know what the [\h__\h] just happened.
Uh, Discord.
Uh,
try it now, Greg. Keep talking.
>> I'm talking. Hello.
>> Yeah, that was weird. It just it just
like went to the wrong Discord.
>> There we go. I fixed it.
>> Okay, now stream to me.
>> That was weird. Sorry about that, chat.
Discord went [\h__\h] for a second. We're
back. Audio channel fixed.
>> Now, I don't really think this is the
best approach for dealing with that kind
of trauma, personally. But hey, that's
just me. And I also again have my
suspicions if the therapist approved
this.
>> And my editor and his other boss are
sharing lollycon back and forth, and
said editor also made a sex joke about
someone who I once considered one of my
friends. I'd probably tell that guy to
choke on a brick. By the end of the day,
it's not up to KP or anyone in the court
of public opinion to tell Saberspark who
he can and can't hire. If he wants to
stand by Chris, he is 100% in his right
to do so. All I can do is just criticize
it and call him a hypocrite.
>> I and I and I and I
I would agree with that. Like honestly
speaking, I would agree with that if if
Saber still uh keeps uh afficionado
Chris under his employee regard and
expressing his feelings about Lollcon.
I do think that that that is something
to say is hypocritical and people can be
hypocritical. It's just something that
he would have to be honest about
>> which, you know, being a hypocrite isn't
the worst thing in the world. Everyone
has been a hypocrite at some point.
Unless you're part of like the drama
sphere on the internet, in which case
being a hypocrite is like worse than
>> Yes. Always be entirely consistent. If
you're never entirely consistent over
here, you're dead.
>> Wasn't enough for KP. She wanted to
kneecap Saber Spark. On the 26th of
April at 1:00 in the morning, KP
randomly messages me saying, quote,
"Hey, I don't know if you're around, but
[\h__\h] it. I can tell you what's going on
in more detail because I think the more
people talking about it when it breaks,
the better." KP proceeds to tell me of a
rape allegation against Saber Spark,
which I was shocked to hear about since
I was already previewed to this claim in
my comment section of my Black Griffin
video. Someone had commented something
along the lines of, "By the way, Saber
Sparks a rapist." And
>> interesting.
>> I deleted that comment because I thought
that person was talking out of their
ass. Sparks a rap.
>> Uh, literally somebody in my the comment
on my video was talking about rape
allegations.
I deleted it because I didn't know it
was true. inadvertently deleting
comments that hit it.
>> And I deleted that comments because I
thought that person was talking out of
their ass. Apparently, this allegation
was made early, posted a week before KP
had planned on it.
>> Jesus Christ,
I forgot about these
>> coming out. She had even written a tweet
forward that was supposed to come out
alongside the allegations. The forward
presented the allegations in a
completely new light than what was
eventually put out by Bonk when he
refused to use what KP wrote. The
following is a testimony of rape by
coerced consent between Saber Spark and
the victim in said testimony. There were
two isolated incidents 2012 and 2013
>> which we both know were in 2012. This
was an incorrect statement.
>> This isn't true by the way. Both of the
incidents were in 2012.
>> God damn it. Lazy
>> Bonk as well as YouTuber I love Kim
Possible a lot have talked to the victim
extensively and believe the validity of
these claims. There's something that
should be noted about this forward. KP
had written this herself for Bonk to
post alongside the allegations as if she
wrote it from the perspective of Bonk
himself, like pretending to be him
drafting out the tweet to post online on
his account.
>> Yeah,
>> as if he wrote it. But also, the
allegation here is different than what
Bon puts out on his own front. KP calls
the allegation rape by coercion, which
is interesting for two reasons. Later,
it will be shown how KP and Courtney
Pete do not believe in the concept of
implied consent.
>> Nope. But if they believe that the
accusation initially was raped by
coercion, then that must mean that KP
and co acknowledged that Emily had to
have given an indication that the sexual
>> Yes, she did. She thought Emily sees it
as implied.
Very much not the case. When Courtney
and KP enter the story,
>> encounter was actually consensual.
However, because Emily claims that the
encounter made her highly uncomfortable,
it's almost like they had to concoct
like some sort of way for this to be
rape in some fashion. So they went with
the narrative of
>> coercion. I agree and I agree with this
assertion. I agree with this assertion.
>> So it made sense why the victim would
agree to have sex at all but still felt
it was wrong. It also shows that those
presenting the allegations backing it up
like KP Bonk, Courtney P, Amy, whoever
the [\h__\h] else, they all don't appear to
be on the same page as Bonk didn't go
forward with this tweet draft. We will
see more of this miscommunication and
eating faces later on. So what is KP's
angle in telling me all of this? Bonk
being a jumping off point and even like
bringing this allegation to the public
at all. Well, at the time KP claims that
the goal of the allegations was supposed
to go up right before the video to
blindside him. So, let me get this
straight. You wanted Bonk to release
these allegations.
>> So, this is Bon. This is between Bonk
and KP. Hey, the testimony. Oh, it's
supposed to come out the May 1st. I
thought I made that clear. I deleted it
and when you sent it and you said to
post us when you wanted us to post it
just as a buffer to your video. I
thought I meant I thought I meant today.
No.
on your own terms along with your video
with your words for the forward of the
tweet and told me in hopes that more
people would talk about these
allegations when they drop all to
blindside sabers spark.
>> First of all, that's insane.
Objectively, this is just an insane
thought process that rap
>> how you feeling so far about this.
>> I'm eating chips. Um,
you know, we talked about it before or
Becca talks about it before because uh
Emily's
statement had gotten changed through
different um edits of the Google doc.
>> Yeah.
>> Um and I didn't I didn't put the
Courtney Pete aspect to it or it being
taken out because of Courtney until
literally just now. And now everything
is just kind of like puzzle pieces.
What are you What are you ordering? What
are we eating?
>> Nothing yet. I just read something that
was sent to me.
>> I'm eating um uh sour cream and onion,
but I'm out of those. I'm going to um
Doritos Cool Ranch
>> uh by Is Doritos Are any Doritos vegan?
>> Vegan? Probably not because of the the
stuff they use.
>> Well, I like pie the vegan
>> for the purpose of blindsiding someone
you already expressed to me in these DMs
you do not like. And can we just talk
about how manufactured this plan was to
get bonkers?
>> Incredible. Sweet chili is that
>> vegan. Okay, cool.
>> And then Lazy's eating lemon poppy sea
bread.
>> How KP would instruct the victim on how
they should make their statement. KP and
Courtney coached Emily to remove any
mention of
And and we saw Courtney is still to this
day denying it and crashes out over
denying it because she knows the truth.
Insane. It's almost like Courtney can't
defend herself from something that we
all know she did.
>> Adding the details of Sabers and her
height and weight difference.
>> Oh. Oh, did you guys not know that that
they talked about the height and weight
difference?
>> This is your edit. This is your
recommendation. What was highlighted in
yellow are recommended specifications,
whilst the pink highlights are direct
additions or rewardings by KP and Co.
Sabers Spark was also significantly
larger than me as I was an 80some.
>> As of 5 months ago, sweet chili are no
longer vegan.
>> Pound 18-year-old girl, so I physically
could not stop him. This ended up in the
final statement the victim approved of
being released to the public. And it was
something that she added to her
statement via Discord DMs between
herself and KP after KP suggested adding
it in. This is really damning in and of
itself, but it gets even worse when the
video actually comes out. Not only is
this allegation featured an hour and 30
minutes into a 2hour video, but the
discussion of the allegation itself is
held by Courtney Pete and KP once again
debunking the concept of implied
consent.
>> Consensual sexual encounter is never
something you're going to question
afterwards. Okay? Like you just don't
question a consensual encounter. Sure,
you may have a consensual encounter
that's unsatisfying. You may have one
that you, you know, regret that might
you may look back at one and go, you
know, if I can make that decision again,
I probably wouldn't. But people don't
question consensual sexual experiences
with did I just get violated?
I hate you, Courtney. I hate you for so
many reasons, but this is not this is
like
you are
you do such a disservice to people who
come out with stories. I'm sorry. You
are a part of a video that does such a
disservice.
And the fact that
you
I you know what, Kazuki, I completely
agree. I don't understand why Lyall runs
the fence for this person. I told him
straight the [\h__\h] up. I've told him that
Courtney is a f is a liability and going
to explode.
I was told I said it and he is like,
"Well, Courtney is a sick person." And I
said, "Okay, I'm telling you it's going
to be a bad idea
to be quite honest." And like the other
thing that kind of breaks my heart is
there's one point in her testimony where
where she questions if if I'm
remembering this correctly that like
maybe she was at fault because she had a
crush on him, like maybe she gave the
wrong signal or something. Maybe she
implied something or he thought consent
was implied because he knew there was a
crush on her. Like in all honesty,
consent is never
>> extremely important. Do you do the Mario
voice during sex asking for a friend?
No, you pay extra for that.
>> Implied like even even confident
individuals in in a sexual encounter
made me more scared to talk about it.
[\h__\h] them both. Yeah, that that's I
don't
>> I literally don't disagree and I'm sorry
that you feel that way. They like I and
I know that Lazy puts in this video of
Courtney and KP, specifically Courtney,
telling a someone who's like, "Hey, I'm
a victim of SA. Like, I think the way
you're talking about this is really is
really bad. This entire consent portion
is misrepresenting how consent works and
like it's kind of traumatizing as well
as the way that you're platforming these
allegations." And they just told him to
shut up.
Insane. counter will check in with their
partner as things escalate and change
gears and and they'll say things like,
you know, are you okay? Should we keep
going? Is this good?
>> Which allegedly Saber Spark did,
which allegedly he did and is part of
the questioning in Emily's statement
>> like because consent is not something
that is implied. It's never something
that's
>> that's also incorrect in that in that
version
>> implied. You know,
>> I disavow Lio whatsoever. Listen, Lio
makes very stupid decisions and we could
[\h__\h] make fun of him for it.
>> Absence of a no is not a yes in any
regard. An absence of uh resistance is
not compliance.
>> That's not the same thing as an implied
consent. That's the there's so many
there's so many layers that we've
skipped.
>> Even in that regard, compliance is not
an invitation.
>> No, I'm not.
>> You could lie. I could piss you off.
Believe me, completely okay.
>> Super well educated on implied consent
to give like my opinion on it. I know
that's like sort of a contentious topic.
>> Yes. Yes. And I do remember this all the
time. A lot of people were like deaf and
mute people by that definition cannot
consent. And it's like it's insane. Yes.
I know. People with disabilities who who
can have sex and can't consent but don't
use words necessarily and do like body
language and stuff
topic. There's arguments for it and
against it. What I can say about like
this whole implied consent thing is how
it's argued in this exact video. Whilst
there's a whole 15-minute segment
talking about how implied consent is
[\h__\h] KP does address recording
Chris without his consent like I said
she should using implied consent as her
defense.
>> Yeah, that's true. That is actually
true. That is a implied consent defense
>> isn't the victim. I can't believe I have
to even have the segment. But with the
implication of Steven's, what are you
going to do? Record me comment on top of
Chris's statement talking about the
recording being without his knowledge.
Let's just clear this up. So firstly, as
already stated, I thought it was obvious
that a callup was being recorded for
safety reasons because it's about sexual
harassment. It's not like a fun call.
Like I thought it was obvious.
Obviously, it wasn't.
>> I hope KP knows that consent doesn't
just apply to sex. It applies to just
about everything you agree to do.
Signing implied consent forms for
medical procedures, contract law that
includes explicit signed consent. Giving
a yes or no to things you do or do not
want to do is giving someone consent.
And if you truly believe implied consent
is [\h__\h] then you can't also use
that defense to record people without
their permission. And that is just one
of the many, many problems I have with
this video. Unfortunately, we can't have
a conversation about Saberspark and
Emily Jones without talking about this
video. I think the allegations
themselves should be evaluated and given
a fair shake on their own without the
association to this horrible video
because dismissing them based on their
inherent
>> which is a fair which is fair which is
fair and they were looked at
by yours truly
>> source is an argumentative fallacy
called a genetic fallacy. However, since
I'm featured in it briefly, I must
absolutely disavow this video and just
break down why this doesn't work. Use
this as an educational opportunity of
what not to do.
>> Hello viewers, welcome to another
segment of maybe the internet was a big
[\h__\h] mistake.
>> One of the many complaints of this video
is in its tone. Many citing tone deaf
when paired with allegations of rapsane.
But I like to think of myself with the
John Stewart of the YouTube animation
community. I call things out when I feel
like I
>> insane by the way. Insane.
>> Add something.
>> One, you're not. Two, nobody should be.
>> Yep. Fei is the knights that go me.
>> Yes, me. It was me. I don't want to be
alive anymore.
>> You just draw this for your boss, right?
If memory serves, there's also a nude
version.
>> That's disgusting.
>> I think you guys are just trying to wait
until this all dies down and everyone
forgets and then Chris will just
magically appear.
>> Now, given how I use humor in my own
coverage on
>> All right, I will say this straight up.
Lazy,
you do not use humor the same way KP
did. When I got to this part of the
video, I was like, "No, it's not the
same." If you choose to take out part of
the humor in of your videos out, that is
completely up to you, and I will never
tell you not to. Uh, you don't use humor
the cutaways are not the same. Do I
think the Jordan Peterson one needed to
be there? H, not so much. Uh uh but I
don't think that you use humor as a
cutaway the same way KP did because KP
wrote an expose about child abuse, rape,
and pedophilia
>> as a as a [\h__\h] cartoon review, which
is insane to say.
>> She was breaking a story with with
Seinfeld joke. Yes. you're when you're
when you are you I'll say reporting on
on on a story and you have whatever you
know whatever that's completely
different.
>> Yeah, exactly. Again, I don't I think
the Jordan Peterson one was a step too
far in my opinion. I think that could
have been cut.
>> That's just for taste really. I mean
that's that's your taste. I that's
that's specifically yours. Maybe it was
a bit long, but I also I don't care that
much.
>> Yeah.
>> On darker topics of this nature, I
cannot say [\h__\h] I guess this is one of
those things where I kind of have to
just ask the audience,
>> what do you guys think?
Wasn't an issue with my own content
>> until KP's video came out. I've been
presenting stories of sexual misconduct
on this channel for 5 years with the
same amount of hyperbole
and even costumeuming to the complaint
of absolutely no one
>> until KP's video came out. So, because I
would actually like to hear constructive
criticism unlike Courtney Pete, I would
like to know.
>> Am I part of the talk and get your food
and come back? Am I also in the wrong
when I joke around and try to be
entertaining in light of serious topics?
Is there really a difference or not?
Because the only conclusion I can come
up with is KP is the reason I can't be
funny anymore. Most of my presentation
is in trying to come across as precise
and to the point whilst also making
light-hearted jabs to cope with the
uncomfortableness of the situation. Like
if you've watched any of my videos, I
don't know if anyone's noticed this, but
like I have a horrible nervous laugh.
It's like a trigger to anything that
makes me feel like uncomfortable or when
I'm masking the fact that I'm extremely
socially awkward and everyone can tell.
And I think laughing can just fix it and
it it doesn't. But for me, it's just
like a train wreck. I I can't look away
from and I cope with it by giggling and
just being like, "Oh, dude, what the
fuck?" You know what I mean? And so,
like, maybe KP is the same way. But her
excuse for her video's tone is the fact
that she has apparently never covered
situations like this before on her
channel. This is a lie. This is an
objective lie. The Lily Orchard video
she made was over a year ago, and Lily
has done way worse things. And what's
interesting with the Lily Orchard video
was that the editing and the
presentation style is virtually the same
as the DA Games and Sabers Spark video,
albeit the former is way more over the
top. It's like a dial being turned way
the [\h__\h] up in like a span of a year.
Beiality porn commissioned by minors,
flashing your tits on YouTube, which is
against YouTube terms of service, incest
shipping, pretending in [\h__\h] and
the list goes on and on and on and on.
>> I've chosen not to keep this person
anonymous because I believe this is not
a mistake or a slip of the tone. This is
an active attempt of slander and
misogyny, and that's just not
acceptable.
>> So, I guess I can understand why she
thought the tone was fine given that
like this is just how all of her videos
are presented. And if it wasn't a
problem, then why would she believe it's
an issue with
>> Yeah, I agree. I I think this is a very
fair assessment that she just was
literally too stupid to understand why
this was a bad idea.
Just too stupid. But again, that's why
she should have never handled this
>> this coverage. Well, the issue is that
this video should have never been
presented in the first place, especially
paired with a Saber Spark allegation
given she had only learned of these
allegations by March.
>> And also, here's the other thing. Uh
KP's video to Sabers Spark
was a personal vendetta.
It was a personal vendetta because KP
had a dwindling not only just a
dwindling fan base, but just dwindling
support overall.
And she was very very bitter that she
was not as big as Saber Spark and the
rest. She was incredibly bitter about it
and incredibly bitter that they would no
longer be friends and incredibly bitter.
I think that there's also a weird
jealousy, you know, when she mentions
like, "Oh, you have a polyamorous harm
of people." Which, by the way, KP has
never supported with evidence.
Insane that she would say that in saying
that he [\h__\h] his fans left and right
and then just never support it without
any evidence. It's lit. It's utterly
liable.
>> Yes, you can be bees and I am by.
>> Reminder, this video came out in May and
she had been working on it for half a
year. What we know now is that the
allegations were passed down from Amy
New to Bonk to KP. Amy New is friends
with Emily Jones who backed up the
allegation on Twitter and Blue Sky. I
have personally been friends with the
victim for over 10 plus years. I was at
Canterlot Gardens and witnessed them
both together. If my words mean
anything, I believe them. I have nothing
to gain from this. I just want my friend
to be believed. That's interesting, Amy,
because when asked directly, when was
the first time you heard of the
allegations? You said it was March 25th
of this year. So, which is it? Did you
witness?
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>> What does Amy have to gain from this?
>> Like, like she said, I have nothing to
gain from this. Trust my friend. But
like really, why why even stick her neck
out like this when she she has her own
>> theory that prevailing theory that uh
Becca and I have
Amy knew is how Ian disseminates this
info.
To other people when he doesn't want to
be involved.
>> Amy knew is the one that disseminates
the info.
She's the only connect. She's the only
other connecting factor. Not Sophie.
Sophie's too stupid.
>> Right.
>> Legitimately. So Sophie's too stupid to
do that. So I think it's Amy that is
disseminating info for Ian if he doesn't
reach out to people directly. That's my
prevailing theory.
>> Them together 10 years ago, or were you
only aware of this situation by March?
Then Bonk was given the story, but was
busy with other things. And since he was
already in KP's Discord server, he
thought it would just be better to hand
it off to her as she was already in the
process of making a video on Saber Spark
anyways, so it all was just really after
the video was posted and then removed.
Lea, I know that's what I'm saying.
>> Ian will reach out to people privately.
We'll get there, but there's other
stuff, too. just other stuff because
there will be times when he doesn't want
to be involved. But remember,
for those who don't know,
uh, Beckett's video got, and I knew
this, uh, Beck and I, we talked about
this. I don't know if he ever made it
public until last night. Um, Ian privacy
complainted Beckett's video.
How do we know this? Because the only
part that was privacy complainted on the
video was the section of the leaked
leaked voice call.
That is the only thing that was privacy
complainted from that entire video. So,
we know Ian saw it. We know Ian doesn't
like us. And we know Ian let that just
doesn't like it and doesn't doesn't want
that there.
Maybe because Ian was probably an
abusive father. I don't know. I'm just
saying. That's what Claire says. I'm
just regurgitating what she's saying.
Sue your own daughter. I don't know what
to tell you.
>> The first of my many calls throughout
this began with first speaking to KP
directly about what happened on May 3rd
with Phineas in this call. Enter gave me
a list of questions to ask since he was
already curious about the situation. And
one of the questions was how long
exactly was this video in production? I
took notes and I summed up everything
that was said during the call. And the
answer KP gave was discussion on Gabe,
Saber, and Chris has been around for
well over a year. This is in regards to
like talks in her Discord server.
However, the discussion to actually make
a video on DA Games was in September
2024. In March of 2025, Bon got KP
>> Z. The video was never down. Uh, Becket
won the fight on it.
>> In contact with Saber's victim. The
video was premiered May 1st, 2025. She
also confirmed that the focus with her
video was DA Games initially, and Saber
would be added as another example of him
defending shady people, similar to the
Black Griffin story.
which is an interesting point of order
because
sorry I'm chewing chat. It's an
interesting point of order
because Bonk believes that that
recording is illegal. And there's only
one way that Bonk knows that call. That
call would have happened in a therapist
office
is if Ian told him or Ian had somebody
tell him or Ian's telling people about
it because nowhere does it state
that that happened in a therapist uh
office.
Interesting. Isn't that right, Ian?
voice of Canadian Goku as well as Mr.
Fantastic and Marvel rivals. Really
interesting, buddy.
However, when she got this information
by March, she decided her new strategy
for the video was to add the allegation
as a way to blindside Saberspark so that
he had no time to reply to the
allegations. One of the other
contentions brought up against this
video is how obvious it was that it was
supposed to be a DA Games video and the
Saber Spark allegations were just
shoehorned in at the very end. I think
KP did have every intention to talk
about Saber Spark in this video
irregardless if these allegations
>> uh he said he violated HIPPA, right? So,
here's the thing. It doesn't violate
HIPPA
if there's consent to record those
meetings. If it happened over Zoom, for
for instance, or something, there is
consent.
as well as, and this is a fun fact for
you,
if it's Claire's therapy meeting, she is
fully allowed to leak her own therapy
session. HIPPA doesn't necessarily apply
to him. It's not his medical record.
It's hers. If it's her therapy session,
she's allowed to leak it if she so
chooses.
Furthermore, and this is like an
interesting fun fact for all of you
because Bonk believes that the therapist
is going to be fired or lose their
license. Therapist is not going to lose
their license.
Yes, if the therapist leaked it, we
would be talking differently. The
therapist didn't leak it allegedly. So,
very curious. Why would you think the
therapist is going to get fired? Huh,
Bonk? Very weird.
>> Were there not? And the reason I believe
this is because KP's video centers
around and has seemingly been always
about one person, aficionado Chris.
>> Chris was a team member roughly from
2014 to 2015. Chris was generally a nice
guy in my time knowing him.
>> Chris, Chris, Chris. Chris, Chris,
Chris, Chris.
>> And for the record, I assume Chris knew
he was being recorded because it was a
call about safety. It only gets worse
from here.
>> It's what she presents at the very start
of this video. It's what she presented
to me when I asked for context on what I
was reading and what the video was
about. It's not that the video was about
DA Games or Sabers Spark. It was about
Chris. It's always been about Chris.
Saberspark and DA Games were related by
employment and KP is also related to
Chris via past collaborations. The
difference being KP cut Chris out of her
life for what I think are fair enough
reasons. And Sabers Spark and DA Games
didn't. And that really can be what this
all attributes to. KP made this video
purely because she was angry that Chris
was still getting work even after what
he did to her. And I mean, you know,
given Saber Spark's response video, if
you just base her intent on that,
>> which is fair,
>> but but she did find out about it after
the fact, too. I was just about to say
this is this is a critique for that.
>> She found out and immediately tries to
call him. She didn't distance herself
from Chris because of the comments.
She distanced herself from Chris because
he left the studio. That that that's a
little bit of a point of contention. I
would disagree with Lazy's assertion on
that because there's because in the call
they said they haven't spoken in years.
They haven't talked in years because KP
has this weird thing with everyone who
leaves her. Uh she thinks it's like the
most evil thing that's ever happened.
Are you going through the whole video
tonight? Yes, someone know. And I want
to try to get through this whole thing
tonight as well as one part of the
interview which concerns Wootmaster
>> that you could just see that as the main
reason, but I I still think it goes a
little deeper than that, which I will
present throughout this section. This
was something that Mr. Ent brings up in
his video. So, I'm just going to, you
know, copy paste what his point was, but
all of the random ass memes and skits
and jokes wouldn't even be a problem if
this video had proper flow. Like, please
explain to me what Jerry Seinfeld dating
a 17-year-old and Trump's grabber by the
[\h__\h] tape and Lily Orchard being tacked
on at the very end. What the [\h__\h] does
that have anything to do anything?
>> The 2016 leak of the Hollywood access
tape was a big deal. In a bus, we have
an orange man who shall not be named.
Orange man was talking about women in
Google if you want to. This whole stream
is giving me a [\h__\h] headache. I guess
>> Lazy, if you're still in the if you're
still in the chat, I could tell you
exactly
why these are all references, but why
they're stupid references.
leaked joke. Grab him by the [\h__\h] Will
was allegedly dating a 17-year-old or
16-year-old, but in the UK that is the
legal age of consent, as much as I hate
it. And Lily Orchard is for her fan base
because of Courtney.
Yes, it makes no sense still to this
day, but that's
>> crazy. But there is a line. There's a
through line. I
>> There's a through line. There's a
through line for it. It's actually
stupid. I get this. She's trying to make
the comparison, but it's dumb. You're no
entirely dumb. We agree.
>> We all agree.
>> You can beat Jerry Seinfeld, who dated a
17-year-old when he was 38.
>> So, uh, what are you going to do later?
>> I got a date with Nikki.
>> Oh, yeah. She's a beauty.
>> And she's also 17. Bold and beautiful.
>> Part six. [\h__\h] on Lily Orchard
because it's fun.
>> To understand just how bad the flow was
in this video. In the process of all of
this, I watched this video twice. Once
after it was privated and reuploaded,
and again to take notes, as I do with a
lot of my research. And even with my
notes,
>> Mhm. I still have no idea what the
allegations against Will Ryan are.
Something about dating a minor when he
was in his early 20s or something. I
have no [\h__\h] idea. I don't even know
who these people are. I I think they're
related to the DA game stuff, but I
honestly
>> Yeah, this interview is very very I'm
sure it's important and I am so sorry if
I'm being dismissive, but
>> it's the interview is bad and we've
tried to talk to some of the people and
unfortunately
>> it just like not enough evidence. I'm
sorry.
>> I genuinely don't know who the [\h__\h] this
is. These interviews are just they're so
bad. And this is coming from someone who
is really, really bad at interviews.
Clearly, there's also an issue with as a
portion of this video is dedicated to a
SnapCube meme of Eggman pissing on the
moon.
>> I've come to make an announcement.
Shadow the Hedgehog is a [\h__\h] ass.
>> This is such a stupid meme. And yes, I
see the irony that Emily voiced Tales. I
know
the irony isn't lost on me,
>> [\h__\h] which, you know, in
hindsight, given we know who the victim
is now, a Sonic meme, more specifically
an Eggman meme that is being used as the
audio for the man that is alleged to
have sexually assaulted Emmy Jones, who
is a Sonic content creator who has
worked with the voice of Eggman
directly. Like, oh my god. And you knew
it was her the whole [\h__\h] time, too.
What the [\h__\h]
>> Whatever.
>> And obviously KP always knew it was her.
>> And when did you know?
>> When did I know it was Emmy?
>> Yes.
>> At the beginning,
>> right? Okay. and weirder even.
>> And remember, she pretends like she
doesn't know it was her. She pretends
for a while. It's like she like she acts
like she doesn't know.
>> The audio is a fandub of a fandub. And
the cosplayer who is behind this audio
wasn't even alerted that his read of
this meme was used in this at all. He
was never asked for permission or knew
what his cosplay video was being
perverted into. So, on top of making a
rape allegation with victim testimony
and literally nothing else, KP is a
thief. On top of that, the one thing
about this video I cannot seem to figure
out is who exactly saw this video before
it was released. Now, in retrospect,
this isn't really indicative of like
anything important because even if KP
had let people see this video beforehand
for like the sake of constructive
criticism, she's already shown me that
she was never going to take any advice
from anyone. Even when it's coming
directly from a Lio convoy, telling her
not to include the saber.
We went from saying a Lio massive Lio
Convoy L to like a kind of massive Lio
Convoy W. I hate this. God damn you,
Lio.
>> The pendulum swings.
>> I hate it. The pendulum does swing.
Still, [\h__\h] Courtney. I told you. I told
you, [\h__\h]
>> Respect allegations until a police
report is filed.
>> Then that needs to be handled by the
cops. Like, period. Like 100% period.
That that needs a police report filed
today. Here's the problem though uh with
that inherently. If that did happen and
Saber did do that, he will by nature
know who it is. So if it gets out in any
way, shape, or form and a police report
hasn't been filed.
>> Throw bullet time this [\h__\h] so hard is
literally the funniest thing that I've
ever read.
>> She's going to be at risk. Like that's
just the truth of the matter in this.
And it's unpleasant. It's
>> KP went ahead and did it anyways. So who
saw this video beforehand only is really
like a curiosity thing at this point of
like who signed off on this and who
thought it was a good idea. So, this is
a question that was asked in the first
call with Enter questionnaire, and this
was the answer that I got. Two people
looked over the script. KP and one of
her Discord mods, who was also a CSA
survivor. Given that this mod had been a
fan of KP watching their content for a
bit, the tone of the script and its
structure wasn't something they were
unfamiliar with. How KP presented the
video is similar to how her other videos
are like. Plus, the biases there being a
mod and a fan. Who saw the video is
dependent on who actually reviewed it or
not. Ly Conway and Courtney were sent
the video ahead of its live premiere.
Neither of which watched it beforehand
or gave feedback, which is weird because
Courtney was in the video she apparently
never watched beforehand. Saber's victim
watched it beforehand and had no issues
with the video. A couple of victims of
DA Game staff also saw it and gave some
notes. There was a point 24 hours before
the video was supposed to go live where
the victim that viewed the video
requested a change that they were able
to adhere to, but that was pretty much
it. When asking Emily directly on her
burner account, she does claim to have
at least seen part of the video. She saw
she saw the video.
Emily saw the [\h__\h] video. She
mentions that she saw the video.
If anything, it was the DA Games people
that were the most not listened to and
like we've seen the proof of it. They
tell her they have complaints and then
it just gets ignored.
That is that is like the truth of the
matter.
>> Video beforehand. She says, quote, "KP
sent me the bits related to consent and
stuff. I don't want to cause any issues.
During a large portion of this, I had a
kidney injury and was hospitalized like
every other day, needing fluids because
I do have an eating disorder. KP tried
getting me into a call to
>> Very convenient.
>> Me the entire video for days, but I was
so overwhelmed with the frequent
hospital trips that I struggled getting
back to her. Eventually, I joined a call
and was primarily muted and not paying
attention until I got to what I felt was
the most important bits, which was my
own parts. So, I didn't really see the
other bits all too much. Respectfully, I
just didn't have the mental capacity for
everything else. When we reference the
chats between Emily Jones on her main
Discord account and KP, there does
appear to be an interaction where KP
sends her a Google Drive link. And Emily
replies, "That video made me cry. No
joke, thank you." Now, could it be
possible that like the Google Drive link
was just her segment of the video like
she claims? Sure, it could be. But
there's also the fact that KP wanted to
show Emily the video full on call for
days. Eventually, I joined a call and
was primarily muted and not paying much
attention until I got to what I felt was
the most important bit, which was my own
parts. So, I really didn't see the other
bits all too much. This isn't a straight
answer of whether or not Emily saw the
whole video or not. KP claims that she
did. Emily claims she only saw a
portion. The chats don't confirm one way
or
>> This is what I find very interesting
about Emily. Emily doesn't like giving
straight answers about certain things.
And I find that very, very interesting.
Emily like refuses to give straight
answers on certain topics. I find that
very curious. Very curious.
You're another what I can say
>> because remember when she heard that Oh,
Sabre has texts. Oh, I I I just forgot
about them. I I didn't even think that
we texted each other.
>> Sure.
>> Absolute certainty is that Lio did not
watch the video beforehand and was only
sent a first draft and not the final
product. Bonk didn't see it either,
giving feedback as he watched it live.
Many of the voice actors, including
myself, never saw it beforehand.
>> That's even alerted to the video's live
premiere until it was already privatized
and removed. I didn't even know this
video went up. And for whatever odd
reason, despite having a death,
>> that's
Yeah, we immediately grabbed it. I hope
you guys know that it was I chat. I
grabbed the video and kept it in a
private place. It was me.
I think everybody grabbed that video.
The moment people started realizing how
bad that premiere went, everybody was
anybody grabbed it. It was actually one
of the funniest things. If you like
worked in some of the archival stuff, it
was actually really funny. dedicated
section. Courtney didn't watch the video
either. And yet Courtney had the
audacity to tell a
>> Courtney was in the [\h__\h] like chat
the entire time. It's so insane.
>> Survivor giving constructive criticism
in the video's live premiere chat that
they were only here to complain and to
just don't watch if you know. Like
Courtney Pete especially has been
pissing me the [\h__\h] off because her and
KP tried dragging me into like the
>> go
lazy go off girl. Z and Anthony spat
that they were all in because Anthony
>> Oh, bro, that side Anony's spat with Lio
was weird.
>> And her both like my Black Griffin
video. No, I am not kidding. Courtney is
that petty and petulant. This girl
thinks that she is some sort of ultra
cryptoarian of how all sexual assault
survivors are. So,
>> thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
>> Post to act.
>> Drag Courtney through the [\h__\h] mud.
You stupid [\h__\h] lio. I told you. I told
you. Nobody listens to me. Nobody
listens to me when I say this girl's
going to explode. Nobody listens to me.
>> All because her sister is one of the
most well-known sex pests to ever exist
online. Either way, her breaking down
after the cocon video is very funny.
>> Yes. Yes. She also fought with me. It
was very delicious. It was so delicious.
>> Oh, and this within those first few days
in witnessing the fallout of this hit
piece, my thought process at the time
came to two conclusions. If this victim
is lying about this KP tried to ruin
Saber Spark's career and hype up his
downfall all on the basis of a lie which
she trusted and wholeheartedly believed,
sure, but could have been easily
debunked through having any
>> But she also believed it because she
wanted to believe it.
>> Yep.
>> That's the other thing. Lazy. No. Holy
[\h__\h] KP believed other lies that I
personally believe she made up. She made
up more stuff about Saber.
I know why, but unfortunately that's off
the record.
I know why, but I can't.
>> Wait, who's she in the sense of saying
she?
>> There's a lot more to KP's
Casey kind of touches it regarding uh
Casey is the wife of Saber Sparks editor
and she touches it in her own interview
in Beckett's video. There's kind of more
to that story in my opinion. From what I
know,
there's KP is very vindictive.
Very vindictive.
>> Well, we knew that from how she treats
former Yes.
>> um editors. And you can't cuz you can't
really say they worked for her because
she never paid anybody.
>> Yes, she never paid anybody. And very
famously, uh, a child editor came out
against KP and she like wanted to like
bury a child for being like, "Hey, I
think you're treating me unfairly."
>> A child.
>> Conversation with Sabers Spark or
listening to Casey Fish. KP and Saber
Spark's share mutual friend who told KP
not to go through with this. Plus, KP
never bothered to do any background
check on the accuser until after this
video had already made a splash online,
something she absolutely could have done
way before. Finding out who Emmy Jones
is and her past controversies could have
maybe made KP reconsider.
>> Yeah, she got traumatized by a minor.
Yes. Uh, very famously KP. Oh my god,
the the 16-year-old leaked. Oh my god.
Like and allegedly it sounds like a lot
of them don't like uh apparently even in
Chris's call with her
um they don't like Bogsy, I guess. Uh
but so for those who don't know KP uh
one of KP's like the the traumatic point
of her on the internet is a lot of stuff
leaked from her company internally
because like working for KP a was a
nightmare but b KP employed a like 15 16
year old named Bogsy and there was like
a I don't know if it was on the farms or
4chan but there was like a KP classified
or declassified leaks and I believe it
and a couple former employees, including
the 16-year-old, released internal
information as well as contracts
regarding KP. And she would have people
sign contracts, which included not being
paid.
I need to make that very clear. Not
being paid.
She didn't do any of this and was so
eager to get this content out there to
blindside Sabers Spark, which gives an
unfair chance to both parties, both
Sabers Spark and Emmy Jones, to present
their case online. If
on the video.
Uh, maybe stay your ass out of child
grooming conversation if you're going to
fold like a clout hungry goblin in the
first sign of push back. I thank you
Lazy for sending this. Um, love how
consistently being getting called a
clout chaser but ass kissing bits brains
morons. Blah blah blah blah. I donated
the rain. You could have done that and
kept your mouth shut to begin with, but
now you could have just helped predators
everywhere.
>> I guess this is
>> that's Courtney. I guess in regarding
the Gabe stuff, I it's just so [\h__\h]
stupid, dude.
Courtney is literally brain damaged.
Like unironically, I think Courtney is
just brain damaged and it's it shows
every day.
>> This victim is telling the truth and her
experiences with Sabers Spark was what
she alleges it was. KP does a massive
disservice to them by having their
allegations tied to this horrible video
and their allegations just being like a
footnote in comparison to it takes what
once was her story and utilizes it as a
weapon armed by KP to go on her little
revenge tour. Like either way,
regardless of the validity of this
allegation, KP is cooked. Her
motivations are not
>> there's no way KP can come back. Like
straight up, there's no way.
>> Out of genuine concern and care,
>> I told you there's three op she's got
three options. She comes back.
>> She do got the three options.
>> She's got three, but she only has three.
He doesn't have any other
>> none else. None else.
>> Emily, they're about getting even. In
addition to the weight and height
difference addition, KP also adds this
little bit. I was not made aware of his
jokes about consent and his recent
behavior involving Chris until only
recently, and it left my stomach in
knots. KP wanted Emily's statement to
include talking about Chris. Despite
that really having nothing to do with
Emily Jones at all, it's almost like KP
wanted afficionado Chris and Saber Spark
to be the reason why Emily came forward.
Emily even cites Saber's fight with KP
on Twitter as an example of Steven
utilizing his fan base and his influence
to go after people,
>> which
is not Yes, Sabre responded,
but like
>> he has a right to
>> he Yeah, I was about to say he has a
right to he can't also he didn't listen
I in my this is not Jar where Jar
literally threatened just a robot
threatened somebody and says well you
know how rabid my fan base is that never
comes up. That never comes up
>> and why she was so afraid to go public
with her allegation. Now, it's already
been explained by enter how this isn't
really a good example and would almost
be impossible for Emily to see given
that she didn't follow KP or Sabers
Spark, but
>> bang bang bang.
>> I can only assume that she said this
because KP probably mentioned her
fallout with Saberspark and showed her
these tweets.
>> Bang bang bang.
>> It's not like this interaction was all
that long ago. It was November 15th,
2024, early into the video's production.
AP really wanted Chris to be the straw
that broke.
>> But weirdly, weirdly, weirdly, weirdly,
Emily wouldn't be involved until May. I
excuse me, March of this year. Very
curious, chat. It's very curious, chat.
They're very weird.
>> Emily's back. That finally encouraged
her to come forward about Saber Spark.
That somehow their public fighting made
her go, I can't deal with this anymore.
I need to say something. I need to get a
hold of KP and tell her my story. When
that's not true. I know it's not true
because Emily told me straight up the
reason she came forward was because of
everything surrounding Black Griffin.
She cited my video as the thing that
>> Yep. That's what we know. I also Mhm.
That's what we know. She only came
forward because of Black Griffin. We
know this
>> triggered her so much and pushed her
over the edge. And when speaking to Amy
New, the first person that she
recommended was not KP because spoiler
alert uh Amy New and KP [\h__\h]
>> they don't like each other.
>> Hate each other. But it was Bonk, the
guy spearheading the Black Griffin
story,
>> which we also know because Bonk said it
in my in my uh chat that he suggested
KP.
>> He said it when he was live in here.
Bonk when complaining about the fact
that we have quote different
journalistic standards, which is it's
not journalistic standards,
though I would call this channel slop
journalism. It was the fact that
>> we're just guys on the internet.
>> We're just people on the internet.
It's like it's insane. Like yeah, we've
gotten court documents and other things
like that when we've helped people with
stories, but like it's not the same.
>> Can do that, too.
>> Yeah.
>> Anybody can do that. You can just
request uh court. Yep.
>> Or pay for a pacer or Trello account.
It's really not that hard. It's just
expensive.
>> Greg, should people like the video?
>> Nah.
>> Nah. No. You're a doctor and a lawyer
and a cop and I'm also your boyfriend
and your husband
>> and you're gay and I'm gay and you're
new in town.
>> And I'm new in town.
Is Bon a journalist? No. When we
challenged his like his eth like his
standards.
>> Yeah. He he stated his that our
standards are different.
>> Yes. He was like like essentially saying
your standards are too high.
>> Where's my ring? That's crazy. It's
2025. I can get a ring too, chat.
>> Wait, Trello. Yeah, you can get Trello
stuff. Is it? No, Trell. Oh, no. Is it
Trello or Trellus? I can't remember the
name of it right now.
>> It might be Trellis.
>> Trellus. Yeah.
>> Because the Black Riven story was what
made her want to come forward in the
first place.
>> So, she goes to the guy who's talking
about the Black Riven story the most. At
best, KP was drastically overconfident,
way in over her head, and was so
convinced what she was doing was right.
Incredibly soft were telling her, and
even was willing to burn down a bridge
with her old friend Casey because she
really thought that Emily needed her
activism.
>> Uh, you can get fidget rings.
>> No, that's that's a level of autism even
I don't understand.
>> They're getting married with ring pops.
You and I both know this.
>> No, don't do that.
>> I'm not the one proposing.
>> No, not Trello. It's I can't remember.
Trell. Is it Trell? God, I there's so
many [\h__\h] names.
>> I swear it's Trellis. Trellis or Trella?
>> And support more than anything else. At
worst, she was so angry about the Chris
thing that when she found out about
Emily's accusation, she used that as the
nail in Saber's coffin, finally having
another excuse besides an employment
quarrel to go on this crusade to take
Saber down. I should reiterate, this was
a crusade. It's one that Bonk was also
just as determined to succeed in. And he
makes very clear his intentions in the
DMs between himself and KP. Hopefully
with the newest of Griffin's victims
sharing their story, her story paired
with yours further cements Saber's fall
from fame. These fat bros from Brony's
React were all far worse than I could
have ever imagined and need not to have
an audience.
>> Oh, shut the [\h__\h] up, Bonk. You [\h__\h]
Okay.
This is where Becca and I are going to
disagree. So, there's a part in
[\h__\h] me. I'm gonna be really mean right
now. Becca was really nice. I'm gonna be
really mean. There is a part in Lazy's
interview with
uh Bonk where Bonk describes his suicide
attempt. Now, let me make something very
clear before I go on for this.
I do not want Bonk to take their own
life or even attempt it. I want to make
it very very clear.
Um, you can also find a link to the two
you can also find the interviews on
Lazy's page uh on their profile as I
think they're also linked in this video.
I am I'm going to be very mean when I
say this. However, the way Bonk
describes the suicide attempt
was performative.
Bonk describes it and says, "People
didn't believe that I was suicidal, so I
had to show them. It's why I recorded
it.
It's why he made it live." He said, "Oh,
they don't believe me. I'll show them.
I'm serious."
That
is not
that is not the same as someone taking
their own life
>> in in a fashion like that. It's
incredibly disrespectful. He then talks
about, oh, if I if I if I really wanted
to die, I wouldn't have chose the
bridge.
>> Um I would have had to I would have done
a more self-destructive means.
I don't have the exact time stamp on me.
Um,
but I'll be very honest, that is a that
is baiting. That the way he describes it
is baiting. Um,
now I'm not alleging it. I am saying
that that is what his statement is. If
somebody has the exact timestamp when we
get to Lazy's interview with him, I will
cover that, his feelings about Cope and
Se. Then um
uh uh his feelings about Woot Master
those only parts I'm going to cover from
that video uh on this stream or actually
it's his own life. [\h__\h] that guy. Yeah,
but again it's there's a reason why it
upsets me greatly
for me. The part where Bonk describes
his endgame was really weird. Trying to
prove you are suicidal is the most
disrespectful and really triggers me
because as a person who's been there
just yet. Yeah, it's incredibly
disrespectful to say that he needs to be
performative for it and he chose the
bridge for a a reason because of like
the walk up and all that. Like that's
what I mean by Copen Speed. Do you mean
the alt-right YouTube channel?
>> You said Cope You said Copen Speed and
I'm starting to think we should have
named the channel that
>> Copen Speed. No,
>> no, wait. No, Copen Seed. We could have
been Coke and Speed.
>> Coke and Speed would have been insane
and I don't think we would have ever
been able to hold it.
>> We would have I would have Coke and
Speed.
>> That's wild.
>> And you know what the [\h__\h] up part
about all of this is without Emily's
allegation. KP does at least have a
reasonable complaint against Saber
Spark. They were once friends in the
Bronosphere. Close enough that Saber
even came to her home and met her
family. This was while KP was still in
college. In 2015, during every
Northwest, KP and afficados Chris attend
and share a hotel room together
alongside with two other people. Chris
circulates this story that at this
convention he masturbated in the shared
bathroom of this hotel.
>> Must note that this is years later that
the story even happened.
>> He finishes all over the bathroom. He
has a bout of lightheadedness.
>> Still disgusting by the way. Still very
disgusting story. Disgusting story. Also
did not happen.
>> Yeah. Also did not happen and is a fake
story for [\h__\h] weird reasons. I still
don't understand.
>> Very gross story.
>> Yes.
>> PE's dirty laundry. This is sexual
harassment. Point blank period.
>> I would and I agree. I agree. I agree.
>> And it's a story KP wouldn't care about
until years after the fact, despite
considering Chris to be one of her
friends in the years,
>> uh, proof proof
proof
>> his
>> Okay, so in the interview or Yeah. in
the in the recorded call in the call
with KP, Chris states he said it because
to people who didn't like KP. Yes.
because he also did not like her because
KP ran her ship like a I'm I'm I'm sure
like like a ran a tight ship and they
were also not getting paid. And so in
his moments of frustration and venting
with the people who are venting about
KP, he tells a really disgusting story
that is untrue.
>> I would like to see the tenor of their
if KP wants to release all the DMs, I
would love to see them because I don't I
don't believe that they considered each
other friends. I don't
>> He could have been friendly. He could
have been lying to her because she was a
a YouTuber and he was working on editing
yes stuff for her maybe in the hopes of
getting paid uh or as a stepping stone
for something better. I I can only
>> because none of the none of the evidence
proves that they had long-term
conversations after the fact
>> and then like she did invite him. I'm
assuming she paid for his ticket to that
con.
>> Yes.
>> If it was a work thing.
>> Yes. But he says it was a work thing. as
she says she was uncomfortable by him
hyping her up, but he went as a work
event cuz he was filming for her
>> even though he was not getting paid.
That like this is volunteer, so I can
only assume she paid still, but we also
don't know.
>> Again, still sexual harassment. I doubt
that they were friends though. I need to
see evidence of them being continued
friends over the years. They could be
friendly, but you also have to remember
is that anytime somebody left KP, she
hated them afterwards. And that's just
been cited. It's been cited by people
who have out who have spoken out against
KP
that once you leave her inner circle,
she hates you, like somebody else I
know.
Oh, that dumb [\h__\h]
H I'm just I'm I am you know Greg you
know why I I allegedly m Greg did you
just leave
>> I was about to go do more laundry but
>> I was going to say do you did you hear I
milk people for content allegedly
>> no I hear you like being milked
>> I you're right I do love being milked
thank you
>> Chris along with DA games as an
editor/team member this becomes a
conflict of interest for KP as her once
old friend gave a job to her sexual
harasser the guy who sexually harassed
her is now working with one of the
biggest influences in the content space.
Not to mention at the same time that
she's learning about the story the DA
>> that's getting clipped. I mean nobody
knows who I'm talking about because
>> games document drops where Chris is
alleged to have
>> Why are you telling everyone
um based
FGI no DMs? Which DMs guys? Cuz you guys
Okay.
Uh, accept DM.
Thank you, Ivy.
>> Nice argument, Senator. Why don't you
back it up with a source?
>> My source is that I made it the [\h__\h] up.
Thank you. Thank you, Iivey. Thank you
for the DM. Thank you. Thank you.
>> Shared lollycon with Will. When
confronted about this information, Saber
gets in a heated argument on Twitter
with KP, calling her a liar who records
people without consent. Even going as
far as to say that KP and Chris ended
things on friendly terms. KP doesn't
have the right to complain about who he
hires personally, especially over
[\h__\h] that happened a decade ago. I
hope Sabers Spark understands that one,
forgiveness can be revoked, and two,
given that Chris is alleged in the DA
games document to have also been sharing
Lollcon with his boss, Will, I don't
necessarily blame KP for revoking
whatever forgiveness.
>> Okay, this is where I disagree. Uh, it
was never about the DA game stuff.
That call is recorded to get Chris
fired.
uh she always had the intention of doing
that in my personal opinion. That that
call was never going to that call was
always going to be used. This is where I
disagree with Lazy. That call from
everything I see and the emails I saw
cuz I didn't see the emails mention the
lollycon stuff. I'll be very real about
that.
I
believe that that call was always going
to be used to get Chris fired because
she never wanted to forgive him ever.
>> She gave in this call, which by the way,
that forgiveness.
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>> Sounds like this
>> has sounded very rehearsed.
>> Uh yeah, it has to be. Uh that's fair.
Most of this section is understanding
from KP's perspective and why she might
have felt the need to make her video.
Yeah. No, that's fine. I understand
that. I just disagree with the the the
perspective.
>> All right. Um, so I don't really have
anything else that I feel comfortable
saying at this point, but you know, I
just I'll just leave with uh good luck
and may God have mercy.
>> God, I hate everybody in the cartoon
space that [\h__\h] makes God a part of
their like [\h__\h] It's so weird.
>> See on your soul. Um, and you know, this
too shall pass. Okay. All those things.
So yeah. Okay.
>> Okay. Thank you.
>> All right. Well, have a good night. Um,
and um I think this is going to limit my
um communication with you for obvious
reasons.
>> The hot block is not responsible for the
No, no, no. Pie.
>> That's That's true though. But we
aren't.
>> Yeah, I know. Lo called out. Yeah, I
know. Cloudy makes the joke like Cloudy
and I will have the conversation and I
like we'll have it like in public like
together with the other ops where I'm
just like I hate that Lo used the Bible
quotes. And uh everyone will be like,
"Yeah, but the Bible quotes are what
make him based." And I'm like, "No, no."
>> But um
>> no, that's perfectly reasonable and I
understand.
>> Okay. Well, all right. Well, I
appreciate you.
>> Lio Convoy was KP's internet pastor.
Yeah, that's funny.
>> Now he's like the youth pastor.
>> What is leche, man?
>> I do love being milked.
>> Fishy, you [\h__\h]
>> talking to me. Okay,
>> I appreciate the same. You being good
health.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I'm I'm fine. I'm I'm much
healthier, but it took a very long time
for me to get here. Lots of lots of very
deep trauma therapy.
>> I'm very sorry you had to go through
that.
>> Remember chat, if you're not already in
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Tip to get the dogfed. And more
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>> I know what it's like.
>> I I I I appreciate it. But, you know,
like, you know, going for hours.
>> I mean, it's not something I started
talking about to relatively recently,
but it really [\h__\h] up my
>> my relationship with my family or at
least complicated it. And, you know,
it's been it's been harder than I've let
on publicly. So, I appreciate you saying
that. So, in her perspective, Chris
doesn't appear to have made an effort to
actually change three years after doing
some creepy weirdo [\h__\h] to her. And
video was everything I just presented.
If she had just been like, "Hi guys,
this guy Chris used to volunteer to work
on my videos. He used to be a friend
until he told the story about jacking
off and falling into my dirty laundry.
He also shared lollycon with Will from
DA Games. I used to be friends with
Sabers Spark, but since he bought me
also, even though I don't agree on
parts, we're no longer friends. I think
it's pretty shitty that he would employ
and stand by a sex past instead of
standby with
>> to be fair. Uh this is also like a thing
too. Uh KP and Saber had not been
friends for years, like literal years.
Uh KP always held uh from everything
that I can see, KP has held a grudge to
Saber, and this is according to Casey
for literal years. So presenting it as
if they were former friends and had a
falling out is an impossibility. I get
what uh I get what Lazy's saying and I
agree with what how she's presenting it.
It just would have been impossible for
KP. It would just would have never
worked.
>> End of video. Like and subscribe. I
don't think a lot of people would
disagree. Some people actually think
this is still a valid criticism like
Jenny Nicholson. And it's like,
>> yeah, I get it, especially given the
>> You tell me how you personally feel
about uh Superman. Can you tell the chat
why you feel Superman is your favorite
movie of 2025?
It's because he's a woke immigrant.
End the video. Like and subscribe. Um I
don't know if it is my favorite of the
year. Let me look up. I know Sinners was
really good, but let me see
uh when I ranked it
real quick. Like
where are my films for 2020? I didn't
watch a lot this year. Yeah, I liked si
sinners just a little bit more than I
liked Superman mostly because it was
like unique unique enough and it had
like a lot of musical components to it
that you wouldn't actively recognize. Uh
is on I think HBO. It's on something
right now. So if you guys haven't
watched it, feel free to to stream it
somewhere. But uh no uh Superman good.
If you like superhero movies, if you
liked any of James Gun's superhero
movies, you'll enjoy this one.
Yes. Watch watch Senators Blue.
Yeah, Super's fun. It's just a very fun
movie. Oh, I did see um the K-pop Demon
Hunters movie this year. It's okay. It's
definitely not for me. I think I think
the animation's good. The uh music is
made to be earwormy, but it it felt very
hollow. Um, some of the motivations were
confusing and some of the uh
the villain was just a generic villain
at the end of the day.
Um, I can I hope I hope it I hope it
made a bigger impact on somebody else
than myself, but I did not hate it
either.
>> Take me to church. I worship like a dog
at the shrine of life.
Oh, we should uh Oh, I I Okay, so chat
chat chat chat chat. Let's talk. I I do
like uh I like Sinners. I have to watch
that movie. Um
>> I saw something.
>> Uh Lio sent me a meme. Check your DMs.
Why?
Fishhammer. Okay, thank you. Uh, so this
is like a a side note. Uh, I haven't
watched K-pop Demon Hunters.
>> You I don't know if you'd like it. I
don't know. You might
>> I've been told, but I have listened to
the music from it.
>> I like your idol. Um,
and Connie was like, "Oh, yeah. You
should sing this." I'm like, "I don't I
don't know Korean, though.
>> I don't know. I'd have to like learn the
Korean parts of it. I also don't rap."
Um,
uh,
>> get quite good quite to write to wrap
the parts.
>> I listen, what I would say is that I
would only do it My Little Soda Pop. My
little soda pop. Uh, allegedly that's
like a a euphemism for vagina.
Allegedly. I don't know how true that
is.
I don't
Oops. [\h__\h] I meant to turn it to warm
and lower the brightness.
[Music]
Pie.
>> Pie says
>> pie. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
>> I [\h__\h] hate all of you. Don't say
those words.
>> No, I have a couple.
>> Don't say those words in that order.
>> Uh, I have I have a I have a big thing.
What What is a K-pop demon hunter? It's
a new movie on Netflix. It's very very
good.
>> It's uh the animation is good. I The the
story leaves a lot to be desired. Well,
allegedly they cut like three hours out.
Allegedly the thing is supposed to be
like three hours.
>> It's an hour and a half movie.
>> They cut out like a whole hour out of
it. There was
>> the then the product that I got is still
I It's surprising it's as good as it is.
I stand by my statement.
>> Okay. Uh I forgot this. How did the song
go? The the K-pop demon song that I
>> I can't even remember. Sodapop is the
only one because it's so eony that I can
remember.
I your idol.
[Music]
I forget the words.
[Music]
Look it up, chat. If I play
>> No, we're We don't have time. If I play
a Netflix song, my [\h__\h] I'll be
sniped out of orbit.
I like literally I will die on stream.
>> Stuff between him and Will standing by
this guy. Even still, I don't blame KP
for getting triggered by
>> singing F minor if you all care. Wait,
YOLO, do you have do you have perfect
pitch?
>> No, they have pitch perfect.
>> No, but serious. And then and then the
>> No, I'm asking yolo
>> the CSI Miami intro the correct notes.
>> David Caruso Horatio Kane sunglasses.
>> I'm doing the funniest thing here and
you're just talking about
>> Wait, you have perfect pitch? That's
super cool.
>> I have perfect pitch one, two, and
three, and you've never cared.
>> Shut up, [\h__\h] I like meeting
other music people die.
>> I don't care.
>> Especially since document that's
alleging all the stuff that Chris has
done came out October of 2024 when the
idea for this video was conceived.
That's probably when KP revoked her
original forgiveness when she learned
that Chris did these things that were
just beyond sexual harassment of
herself. I don't know, maybe she has the
right to start complaining again. And if
this is truly her reasoning in revoking
that forgiveness, I get it. But we
aren't in that hypothetical reality I
just made up. We are here in this one
where everything sucks. For having any
involvement in this video at all, I'm
really, really sorry. I thought it was
going to be harmless. I was doing it at
the behest of a friend of a friend.
Although my part was minor, as in just
one line read, it was still dangerous,
irresponsible, and reckless of KP to
release that video at all. And I feel
guilty by proxy of that video. I should
have absolutely asked more questions,
done something more when KP
>> I think we need to upgrade uncool Greg
to cool Greg. No, that's what makes him
cool is that he's uncool.
>> Yeah, I tricked you into thinking
otherwise.
>> Yep. That's why we love Greg. Greg is
Greg is based. You guys don't know what
Greg does for the channel. I mean,
listen, Star Strawberry, you could learn
to play piano again if you want to. I
did it for school. Uh, this is like a
Originally, your idol is an E minor.
Yeah, I knew it was in a in a minor key.
Um
uh what was I gonna say? Uh
oh my god, my brain.
Uh
like I only played uh piano for uh
conservatorium school. I never really
learned learned. I've wanted to actually
learn learn as an adult. I just don't
have um
I don't have the time, nor do I have a
piano to to learn.
>> Dropped this allegation on me out of
nowhere and should have seen red flags
in the lack of communication upon the
release of this video. And for all of
that, I'm deeply sorry. I should have
never even entertained it. But KP's
video is not where this ends. Far from
it. If you enter his video, it pretty
much goes over the aftermath of
everything. But I'll go through it
really, really fast.
>> There's one thing that's a fairly
universal opinion. We should be focusing
on the actual allegations and not the
video. That was for all purposes. A
completely nutter train right now.
>> Is when we were able to get in contact
with Emily via her alt Discord account,
Suspects. I wanted to get in contact
with her to tell her how sorry I was for
being a part of KP's video. And I would
stand by and believe her should her
accusation against Steven be accurate.
After the release of KP's video, many
people speculated that because Emily was
anonymous that she didn't actually exist
and that this victim was just a
manifestation of KP and Bonk. So, being
able to talk to Emily was important to
verify that this is a real vict,
>> which to be fair, uh, we had known from
behind the scenes that it was Emily, uh,
like very early on because of the
Dropbox
>> that does in fact exist and is making an
actual allegation. And it wasn't just
something that KP pulled out of her ass.
That's when we started asking verifying
questions. Enter was invited to the
group.
>> Yeah, this just enter asking like a
series of questions, yada yada. this
stuff we see in entrance video
>> later that same day and Emily presented
us with con footage from Canerlock
Gardens 2012 and
>> yes I do remember that
>> 2012 dates and times to set a timeline
proof of purchase of tickets for those
>> okay that's fair yes I do know the spark
rizle comments the proof of purchase I
remember
>> and her full story of the two events she
also provided old messages from her
>> uh if please don't sing it what am I not
singing I sing a lot of songs
>> her
>> friends of her opening up about being
sexually assaulted by Saber all the way
back in 2018
>> okay so in 2021 one.
Wait, what? Okay, so in 2021, she talks
about Saber to someone.
>> Also provided old messages from her
friends of her opening up about being
sexually assaulted by Saber all the way
back in 2018. She even mentions in a
note.
>> Okay, so that's in 2021.
I don't know where the 2018 comment
comes from. This I found really
interesting. Was like a trigger warning
suicide note, uh, which kind of sucks.
uh took advantage by blank Sabers Spark
who took advantage of me by being a fan
because I had a crush on him. I added
him when I was 18 and told him how big a
fan I was. He called me and gave me his
number. He coerced me into extremely
uncomfortable situations like him
shoving himself into me sexually,
shoving his tongue down my throat in a
public li elevator, literally dragging
me into a public bathroom and finishing
all over me. Uh I only ever wanted to
hold his hand. He led me and suggested
he didn't think a relationship would
work. However, we'd have like some
conflicting evidence to this.
Uh, as a commenter, would you ever
release behind the scenes info if at any
drama you felt it was important for the
narrative at the time of of this
hypothetical
if the drama required
DM? Uh, yes. I've actually done this
already. Uh, Captain, when and I I don't
like giving him presents, but it's going
to happen when it's going to happen.
When I was alleged to have sent a
frightening wall of text to a person, I
released the frightening the quote
frightening wall of text.
Um,
and that was kind of it. Um, so I have
released things.
Uh
I I have released things when it
required it for the situation.
Um but not always. I don't think it's
always required. I also did it, by the
way, for uh and because I handed it I
handed it over to Beckett.
Um Beckett had some of my information at
the time about uh Brony Fanto and my
conversations with Brony. Oh my god. Not
Bonnie Fanto. um Dan's burst because I
knew I wasn't going to get the traction
off the same tweet. So, uh I g I handed
over to Becket. So, for that too, I've
done in the past. It's just like it's a
case by case basis. Uh it's not a
one-sizefits-all.
Um why are all the excessive SCP black
bar? I mean, it's probably private
information that uh Emily wouldn't want
being leaked, which I can I can be fine
with cuz Emily apparently has had a lot
of trauma in her life. I'm fine with
that. Um
uh okay, the the 2018 confusion was
because she did send me a DM from
someone named Werehog where they talked
in 2018.
Okay, fair. It's just the one you show
on in 2012, but thank you.
Um, but yeah, it's a case- by case basis
to release certain information and it's
only for clarification of stories or if
it's a part of the story, not so much if
I'm doing it I don't want to do it out
of spite every time. That just seems
that's gay to just completely always do
it out of spite. It's only to do it for
clarifying factors.
>> Zap suicide vent.
>> What's up? It should be stated to you've
done it far far less times than you
could have. I guess you can say.
>> Oh yeah. I don't like doing it. Again,
>> like a recent drama. Leak my DMs. If you
accuse me of love bombing and say I
could potentially be a sex pest, leak my
DMs. I'm giving you full permission to
do so.
Will you or will you continue to lie? up
to you.
>> In 2023 that she was sexually assaulted
by Saber Spark. And if Jessa is to be
believed, even as far back as 2013,
Emily was telling them that Saber raped
her. More specifically, it was in their
shared hotel room at Cutie Mark Con from
May 31st to
>> The issue with this is is that also she
alleges that she called someone the same
day that she was assaulted, which we
just don't have evidence for.
>> June 2nd. Throughout the course of our
conversation, there were two things that
we
>> uh out of curiosity, would you ever
check out random people SoundCloud for
content?
>> We have
>> We looked at Kumos. So, we looked at
Kumo's Kumo commentary.
>> We looked at We looked at Lex's.
>> Oh, we did? Cuz Lex was here, too. Yeah.
Before and after.
>> I I didn't hate Lex's stuff,
surprisingly.
>> Didn't hate it.
>> We can most definitely prove We can
prove that Saber and Emily were in
attendance at these conventions through
both footage and on their Twitter
timelines at the time. There was no
doubt that they ran in the same circles
as Casey Fish and AC race best were both
in her Skype contacts and these were
some of Saber's oldest friends. Emily
appears briefly in convention footage
alongside the ever free radio and once
dated animator
from 2012 to
>> sure
>> Emily
soul rack in their soul rack in the back
>> 2016. There's no doubt that Emily and
Sabre knew each other through their
shared friend group, but that's all we
really could prove. Y
>> the story was still just a he said she
said. The problem we faced is if her
story remained consistent. There were
two things that made us originally doubt
her. Her online history and
discrepancies in her story. So, let's
start with how we found out who Suspects
actually was. Emily was very hesitant to
directly tell us who she was, but it was
very hard to figure out like whether any
of this con footage that she was giving
us was even relevant if she wasn't
upfront with who she is. So, she did
agree to tell us her first name. When
giving us her own con footage as
evidence, she sent an old vlog clip via
Dropbox which
>> God Jesus Christ
>> gave us her full legal name. From there,
Phineas and Enter did a background check
and found that she was actually a
YouTuber herself with a long history
spanning even longer than Mr. Enter
around the
>> and has a bigger platform than everybody
like has a bigger current platform than
KP. KP may have had more numbers,
I think, if I remember at the time. But
Emily's platform was active as hell. the
time that we figured this out, Reddit
figured it out and KP was also figuring
things out as well through a
>> Well, here's the thing. To be fair
though, KP always knew. So, the figuring
out [\h__\h] is [\h__\h]
>> A video documentary by Lance Jerkov
called The Queen Falls. This video
exposed, which KP posted in Lio Convoy's
cat server. This resulted in a call
between
>> uh Okay, so this is the DM allegedly
that was sent uh this is 2018 second. I
think there were things uh because of
your DP and your allergies. nasal spray
seeking treatment but at the end of the
day. Uh third as in for the move. Oh, so
this is when she was moving.
Am I to assume this black bar is about
Saber? Uh let me ask you a question.
Were these sent to you this way? Uh
let's see. This DM was sent was she sent
by the way. The only reason I didn't use
it or actually read it because it wasn't
about Saber. Emily's did send this to me
as proof she was opening up in 2018.
Yeah, this message doesn't show it at
all.
This message does not show it at all.
Oh [\h__\h] No, no, no.
I didn't. No. [\h__\h] [\h__\h] I closed it by
accident chat.
>> That's fine.
>> I didn't mean to. I didn't mean to. I
didn't mean to. Lazy ass. I'm sorry.
Just while beat communication
>> [\h__\h] were
>> here. I'm going to strangle you.
>> Where were we? Where were we? Where were
we?
>> Hold on. Hold on. I'll just look at I'll
just
No. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. I can do it
better than you can cuz I could just
look at the stream before.
>> I I can do anything better than you and
No, you can't. Yes, I can't. Uh, this
was sent with that way. Hey, I didn't
add the black box. I assumed by the way
you said it. Uh, Lazy. Yes, I can. Yes,
I can. Yes. Oh, an hour 34. Thank you.
I could do anything better than you.
Controversy. These many sex scandals
where she comes out of it looking like a
manipulator, a [\h__\h] and a crazy
person. Why would Saber Spark be any
different? Now, let's talk about the
discrepancies in her testimonies that
drove me up the [\h__\h] wall. As much as
I wanted to believe this girl, this was
the one thing that made me really
question if I was dealing with a liar or
not. The cell phone discrepancy. Emily
Clint texted by Sabers Park at 10 p.m.
to meet up in the hotel lobby, but his
phone was apparently dead according to
the con footage.
>> Your phone died.
>> Why would it do that?
>> The entirety of the EQ.
>> What was wrong with the Queen Falls
video?
>> So, there's there's a lot of things
wrong with the Queen Falls video because
a lot of it is speculation
and weird like uh weird reports. uh very
specifically when it comes to uh issues
with other voice actors, we only have
their testimony. Uh Becket kind of
covers this in his video on the matter.
The other thing, too, is that
somebody in the video, the former Sierra
Games guy that is now like a cop,
literally outs himself as like a
pedophile because he gets the timeline
wrong of when Emily would have messaged
him to have sex with him. And again,
also doesn't provide proof of that. Just
says believe trust me, bro.
It's it's filled with a lot of
speculation. Again, also uh the Ryan
Drummond stuff. Yeah, Stephen Sers.
Thank you. There's there's too much
speculation and bad blood within the
community
that isn't consistent.
What I will say is that Emily did
publish a 300page document uh that kind
of like outlines everything involving
it. you can go look at it yourself. Uh
it's a lot and I think she does a
reasonable job of casting suspicion. Uh
it's not full it's not full exoneration,
but I do think she has a a decent job of
casting uh suspicion on those claims.
>> All two to three hours.
>> I also don't care if she had sex with
people to get what she wants. I actually
don't give a [\h__\h] about that. Uh I'm not
a prude enough to give a [\h__\h]
>> It's bigger fishy.
>> Yeah. Th those don't those don't make a
a rape allegation disappear or or make a
rape allegation uh dispro or make a rape
disprovable. You know what I mean? Like
it doesn't make the rape not happen if
it did happen and it doesn't make it
disprovable if it didn't.
>> So this mega compilation I made notes of
every notable moment I thought was
relevant compared to what was posted to
Twitter between both Saber and Emily.
This process took two days. The only
thing that exonerated Emily was the fact
that the time zone wasn't accounted for,
which placed this tweet by Saber at 9:59
p.m. California time when his cell phone
is charged and he posted this. So the 10
p.m. time that Emily gave us that she
stuck to even when I interrogated her
about it and told her
>> Yes. I don't I don't like if you're a
sexually active woman. God bless.
>> I don't care.
>> Thought I thought you were going to say
call me.
>> You know, Greg, I actually was like
being respectful for once. What?
Greg.
Well, call me. No. [\h__\h] you, [\h__\h] I
can't believe you did that. God damn it,
Greg.
>> Didn't make any sense. Was actually
consistent when adjusted for California
time. And even with Saber on the record,
he says things that are consistent with
Emily's story. Texting Emily to meet him
at the lobby. Yeah, that was true. The
fact that he had a sexual encounter with
Emily at all, for sure, that does line
up. But, you know, in retrospect, that's
somewhat satisfactory considering that
like, could you imagine, right, if Emily
had made this allegation and Saber's
rebuttal was like, "I've never had sex
with this person in my life." That'd be
crazy. I think there is one thing about
Emily's testimony that doesn't add up
that I will even go so far as to say it
was a straight up lie told straight to
my face. But we'll talk about that when
we get there. We need to talk about what
KP did behind the scenes that made me
blow up on her. Enter. And I sat down
with
>> What did you say? What did you say?
What did you say, Lazy? What did you say
to her?
>> Keep going. You got it. Keep going.
>> We'll talk about that when we get there.
We need to talk about what KP did behind
the scenes that made me
>> uh Oh, you're tired. How the [\h__\h] do you
think I feel?
What a [\h__\h] What a [\h__\h] Go [\h__\h]
yourself.
Bosses with the pie. Thank you, dude.
>> See my manifesto. Manifest a pair of D's
nuts in your face.
>> Thank you.
>> That is so [\h__\h] funny.
>> Superman saved you.
>> Superman has saved you, bossoms. If you
want to be saved by Superman, tip. Uh um
and also like and subscribe. We are I
don't know how many likes are on this.
My behavior wasn't selling in
retrospect. A [\h__\h] KP. I don't give a
[\h__\h]
Uh like [\h__\h] that [\h__\h] I don't care.
They She knew the entire time and lied
to all of your faces. I really don't
care.
>> Yeah, you're you're being nicer to her
than she was ever being to you.
>> Yeah. I got to have to argue this point
saying they did have sex so they didn't
lie entirely. I don't know if it's me
being gay, but it doesn't make it
better. They did or didn't rape. Um
I get what you're saying, Yen. I think
what um
I think what Lazy was trying to say was
like it's at least like confirmation
that they would have been together and
that it was not the most outright lie of
Emily never knowing Saber. Um but like I
do actually like kind of I understand
your point.
I understand what you're saying though.
>> Blow up on her. Enter and I sat down
with KP May 8th. Funny side note about
that call. She was trying to get Lio
Convoy to jump in the call with us.
>> Is this after she had sworn off Lio,
right?
>> Okay.
>> It's also to be noted that, and I think
Lazy goes over it, Lio still doesn't
know that KP knew that Emily the entire
time.
That's like a huge issue.
Lio, because I I I will tell you,
as I've said it numerous times, when I
knew Lio was involved, I I was ready to
burn the [\h__\h] br like burn the bridge
down. I was ready to like literally just
burn it all down.
But seeing how willing he was to help us
out and how he like legitimately didn't
do the old thing of fire and brimstone
[\h__\h] it up. Isn't he in the Discord? So,
here's the thing. Emily wasn't to my
understanding Emily wasn't in the
Discord. It was just in relation to the
um to the DA Games victims, but I think
they also had a separate group chat. And
in that separate group chat,
Lio um Lio is telling them uh they need
to go to the police
again, which is actually the most like
he says, "I'm not moving forward with
the story if you're not going to the
police."
>> And in that in that chat, it didn't even
sound like he had any conversations with
Emily. And Emily was on an alt, too.
>> Yes, he has some conversations, not a
lot. And like as Lazy said, Emily was in
KB's Discord, but as Sunspec, so not to
out the victim, they just never said
anything about it.
>> Despite the fact that both Enter and
myself said that we didn't want him to
be there, we talked about what was
alleged against Emily and how we found
out,
>> which is fair and based, Lio should have
never been in that conversation,
>> who she actually was through the
Dropbox. KP was pissed and admittedly,
this is where I might have [\h__\h] up a
little bit. I was trying to validate
KP's like anger and concern. She was
upset that Emily might have lied to her,
that she has a history that she didn't
know about. And I told her that I
>> the only reason Finn was able to get me
in contact with Emily was through the
Sunspec account was because Phineas was
KP's mod. Yeah.
>> Mhm.
>> Again, not having Lio Not having that
conversation.
>> I don't believe so anymore, but I I
could be wrong.
>> Not having Lio in that conversation was
a smart move. I will be very honest.
>> Two would also be very upset if I put my
career at risk for someone that might
have lied to me. What we agreed to do
that night was that myself and KP would
speak to Emily and tell her what we
found out about her and let her down
easy on how like the Enter video was
going to have to go into a different
direction because the thing is Enter
could not ignore the fact that like
Reddit had already found out who they
were and she has all of these other
controversies that he can't just pretend
don't exist. So KP had a plan to talk to
Emily. I told her I would assist in this
call with her just to set up the group
chat and let's make this happen. You
know, let's voice our concerns with this
Emily Jones. Now, I didn't know this
until the next day, but KP apparently
was in contact with Emily's main Discord
account the entire time. the whole time
that I have been trying. Yeah, I got no
issues with uh uh with Phineas and
everybody else.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait.
[Music]
I saw a new brony fan. Don't tweet
that I need to send to it cuz it's
[\h__\h] [\h__\h] funny
cuz this
is just a crazy
time.
It's really hard to get to his blocks
all the time.
>> Oh my god. away.
Broy Fandote says, or somebody says to
Brony Fando, "No one with integrity
would do an interview with Cope."
General question, didn't Emily do a
interview with Cope in one of his
videos? Nobody's perfect.
>> Nobody's perfect.
>> Wait, I got to get this picture for
Becket. Holy [\h__\h] This is the funniest
thing I've ever seen.
Holy [\h__\h] that's so funny.
Holy [\h__\h] that [\h__\h]
Oh,
that is so [\h__\h] funny. That is maybe
one of the funniest things I've ever
seen.
>> Sing the Smallville theme song, please.
>> Somebody
[Music]
I actually don't know the whole song.
>> Yeah, that's that's that's the extent
that everybody knew, so you're good. You
did it.
>> Uh,
>> sing Kryptonite by Three Doors Down. Who
did that song?
>> Uh, that's Three Doors Down.
>> That's all. We only needed We only
needed a snippet. You're good. Calm
down.
>> I'll keep you by my superhumite.
[Music]
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Oh,
>> to talk to Emily via her burner account,
which is not her immediate direct line
of communication. She answers her main
account more than her burner. So, while
I can't get an answer from the only
contact line I have, KP had a direct
line the entire time.
>> Yes, Lazy. Yes, Lazy.
>> Which was so awesome. So, because Emily
was in and out of the hospital, she
wasn't super responsive to either myself
or KP both on her main and on her burner
account. So, KP was getting really
uneasy that Emily basically dipped the
internet or something. So, what she
tried to do was get Lyall Convoy to have
a confrontation with her on May 9th,
despite the fact that KP and I literally
both agreed that we would do this
together. Lyall, send her this. Hi.
Look, we know it's you, Emily. At this
point, you can either
>> And to be fair, Lio's stupid threat,
which again, I would not have agreed. I
I understand where he's kind of coming
from.
>> Uh the associate was Becket, by the way.
I want to be very clear. We tried to get
this.
>> If you are taking requests with arms
wide open,
>> with arms wide open,
>> arms wide open.
>> Welcome to this place.
I'll show you.
>> We're like doing it the same. It's
crazy.
>> I know.
>> I'm done.
>> Come clean and talk to me and an
associate of mine. Oh, this is going to
spiral. Now, as threatening as this
sounds, I actually have to defend Lyall
here. So, my buddy that creepy reading
or TCR is you.
>> Becket was the associate. That's [\h__\h]
hilarious. Yeah, I Yeah, just by the
way, that was going to be Becket. Uh,
this that was the first time we tried to
get Emily into a call.
all have already been well acquainted to
on this channel. He's been friends with
Lio Convoy for a very long time. He
spoke to him and confirmed that
>> Lio never knew. Isn't that [\h__\h]
crazy? Like again, I agree that Lio
should have never been in that call. By
the way, I want to I actually agree that
Lio shouldn't have been in the call. Um
but likeh
[Music]
>> can you sing I'm No Superman from Scots.
>> I'm no Superman.
[Music]
I'm no Superman.
>> If they use that sign again for the
reboot, that'd be cool.
>> It would be
>> Emmy account. He only learned that KP
knew the entire time during the Becca
interview. So when Beck,
>> when did you know?
>> When did I know it was Emmy?
>> Yes,
>> at the beginning.
>> That apparently was the first time that
Lyall had heard that information. So him
doing this was out of the assumption
that KP just discovered who she actually
was despite her knowing the entire time.
And then KP later sends her this.
>> Okay. I mean, I'll be honest. This is
the most unhinged like I think we played
this on stream. Uh yes, they are
rebooting scrubs again.
>> Well, it's a continuation, but yes,
they're bringing back all the good
people
>> allegedly.
>> No, they're bringing all the back.
They're bringing back all the good
people at the showrunner. It's going to
be good. It'll be fine. Let me have
this. This audio is crazy. This is like
one of the most unhinged things KP's
ever done. And I kind of You know what?
[\h__\h] it. If you're gonna crash and burn,
do it the right way. file with Lazy and
Lazy and your [\h__\h] name was on it.
>> I don't know if you're aware of that,
but that's direct confirmation. So, I'm
at the point where my reputation is on
the line because of you and I feel like
an idiot because of you. And you
>> [\h__\h] your reputation was on the line
not because of her. You [\h__\h] up so
bad.
>> Can help me clean up this mess and get
on a call and tell your side of the
story or this is going to blow up in
your face because people have already
figured out it's you based on that
mistake. And I'm [\h__\h] I'm [\h__\h]
tired because the things that have been
pointed out to me is that you have your
own platform.
>> Now do Superman by Goldfinger.
>> Here I am doing everything I can holding
on to what I am to tell me.
[Music]
You know, people you knew going in that
people were going to
>> You know what? Yeah, I'll do I'll do
like small snippets of songs for money.
That's That's what'll be the new thing
now.
>> Figure it out. Maybe not this quickly.
Maybe not by your mistake, but they did.
And you can be an adult and help me
figure out.
>> Please make it a song. I know. I don't
know every song in the world.
>> We're running out of Superman related
titles.
>> We're running out of Superman related
titles. Oh my god. Greg on the horn.
Yeah, Greg's always on my horn.
I low-key feel so guilty for this audio
because sometimes I because I feel like
validating her anger is one of the on in
that one call might have given her some
sort of reason to go off on her. No,
it's not on you, dude. It's not on you.
Like,
>> no, she she clearly was filled back in a
corner regardless of you you bringing
that up to her. It's She was kind of
like not the internet's punching bag,
but like the internet like laughingstock
because of how bad that video had done.
You didn't make her make that video.
>> Yeah, exactly. Like it's it's and and
like Embry says, it's about her
reputation, not about the victim's
testimony, not about the
inconsistencies. It's always about her
uh her testimony.
>> Starman, David Bowie, me.
>> I'd have to listen to Starman again.
Uh, hold up, hold up. I'll do that. I'll
do it.
>> I, you know, I don't know many David
Bowie songs.
>> Uh, hold up.
>> I don't I don't think I know many at
all. Yeah, I I know he's very
influential and he's very uh beloved. I
just I don't know what it is. I don't
know if like it was never on uh uh
stations I listen radio stations I
listen to out here in the States. I know
he was very popular in Britannia, but I
I I just never I don't think I've I
could tell you a David Bowie song or you
David Bowie.
>> This is ground control.
I believe that's
>> Is that Starman or is that Grand Control
of Major Tom?
>> Wait, how are you old and don't know
David Bowie? I do. It's brain dead that
Lazy feels the need to apologize. She
messed up, learned from it, and isn't
responsible for the actions of these
people.
>> Okay. I I know Starman.
I would have to listen to it.
>> I don't know Starman Space Odyssey. I
knew I knew it the moment I sang it. I
was like, "That's Space Odyssey.
>> Can we do Darmman? I'll sing you a
Darmman video."
>> Dam. Aha.
Fighter of the
>> fighter of the night man.
>> Champion of the sun.
>> We need to watch this [\h__\h] video.
>> I'm not yelling at you. I'm not telling
you what to do, but you have put me
You've put people that are in the video
in a very difficult and dangerous p um
position.
And I don't think you really understand
that.
And so I'm at the I'm at the point where
I talk to this guy back
[Music]
in the sky.
I got to where are the rest of the
words? Uh he'd like to come and meet us,
but he thinks he'd blow our minds.
There you go. I got you.
>> Can you use that as his theme? Cuz it's
dawn.
>> Jesus Christ. I am a [\h__\h] jukebox.
>> We can save his people to villainize
you.
>> I hate you.
>> And that's where we're at.
>> And I hate that point out to me doesn't
make any sense.
>> The timeline is questionable.
>> The only people that vouch for you were
Brony and Amy and Sophie and anyone even
[\h__\h] talk to me.
>> Oh, shut up, KP. I'm not telling you
what to do, but I'm being real with you.
It's it's it's it's [\h__\h] You're
you're [\h__\h] one way or the other.
>> Yeah, chat is derailing the stream and
making soon or I will publicly confirm
it was you. You have 24 hours.
Even KP also sent the victim this where
she is literally shown coaching Lyall on
what to say. Just like, okay, I
understand. I'm just worried about her.
Sorry if I sounded threatening before.
That was just a guess. Give it a sec.
Hey, I talked to the victim and she
really doesn't want to talk to you. Is
that okay?
>> I saw this message. I'm not going to
lie. I laughed when La said this to me.
>> One last one from me. My heart will go
on.
>> Okay. Uh, hold up, hold up, hold up. I
have to pull up the lyrics.
Uh, let's see. Let's see.
Every night in my dreams, I see you. I
feel you. That is how I know you go on
far across the distance and spaces
between us.
Play Batro. I don't own my
>> playro. It's fitting for the death of
Kps.
>> Uh, can you look dead at the camera and
smile?
Uh, let's see. Uh
you that come to show you go
near far
wherever
you are.
I believe that the heart does go on
more.
You open the door and you're high in my
heart and my heart will go on and on. I
I actually don't know that song very
well.
Hello, Yen. How are you doing, Yen? Are
you okay, Yen? Are you lost? Are you
lost, baby girl?
>> All right, I understand. I'm just
worried about her. I'm sorry if I
sounded threatening before. Uh, when's
my cover album? Uh, when the the [\h__\h]
uh I don't know Ready or Not by Cascada.
>> Ready or not by Cascada?
>> I don't know that one. Greg, do you know
that one?
>> Just a guess. So, this is when I lost my
collective [\h__\h] at KP on call and over
text. And look, I must admit my behavior
on that call was not good. I'm not proud
of that confrontation. I'm not somebody
who likes to yell at people. Like, I
yell at people that angry at somebody.
>> And I don't like how I behaved on that
call. I don't like how I behaved even
within the text messages.
>> No, let the anger flow through you.
Let it flow through you
themselves. I just I know I probably
could have handled myself better and I
absolutely should have and I'm sorry.
It's just I was I was so frustrated and
at that point I was I was just so over
it. So I had to go ahead and do this
confrontation all on my own because KP
scared the [\h__\h] out of this girl. And
like I said, I'm not a confrontational
person. This was just supposed to be
like a sit down talk with the three of
us discussing her reputation and how
that has affected all of our working
relationships going forward. and I
somehow had to do that by myself and
just due to the stress of everything KP
was doing behind the scenes [\h__\h] this
over for me. That call did not go well.
It sort of did kind of explain that call
was weird. I told her that her
background check came up with all of
this stuff and we as a team have to go
in a different direction because we
can't just ignore this stuff. And it
made it sound like we were just going to
toss her to the side and expose her or
something when that's not what I was
trying to say at all. I was saying, you
know, with the Reddit post and now
everyone knowing who she was at that
point and all these other controversies
are being pointed to to disprove her
story and we can't just pretend that
that doesn't exist. We can't keep her
anonymous anymore. Like we have
>> Becket posted.
>> Go go go go go go go go now.
>> Uh did he did he let's see.
>> Did Did he post hole?
>> Did he post hole? Chat, if Becket did
not post hole, then it doesn't matter.
>> I end stream.
>> [\h__\h] off. Even I wouldn't do that to
him. What is this? Uh did he post?
Because I have him on No, he didn't
post. I actually have Beck at odd
notifications cuz
uh
>> your friends
>> to talk about this and we did. She sat
down with me and she went through
>> I have people who I like% 100 success
>> in a god.
>> Thank you.
>> See and provided proof of her story.
>> You know what slug congratulations on
your GPU [\h__\h] One of these days I will
like do it.
>> All of which is
>> one of these days I will finally get the
better Oh god that's terrible freeze
fire. I'm so sorry Lacy. Uh, one of
these days I will do better and get a
better PC. I promise.
>> Available on Enter's channel via a final
interview where she goes over everything
that's basically within the Lance video
and like other rumors on Reddit and Q
farms that we had to talk about. It's 3
hours long and it has all her receipts
in it. And after we talked, I apologize
to Emily if the situation was presented
in any way like I was trying to
interrogate her or was being aggressive
because that's not what I was trying to
do. I was just so stressed out with
everything KP was doing that having to
do this by myself. I was just I didn't I
didn't conduct I just didn't conduct
myself the way I wanted to. It made me
feel like like an [\h__\h] It made me
feel like an [\h__\h] I was trying to be
as gentle as I could and I had tried to
do this with others to support me
because I'm not a compet
>> dancing queen Ember.
[Music]
Oh, I'm not doing the high note.
[Music]
You can drive
the time of your life.
See that girl?
What's that scene?
The dancing queen
[Music]
person. It was conversation which was
good. I just wish I had handled things a
lot better. However, this one despite
the apologies and you know talking
things out privately like adults. She
went to Bonk which then proceeded to the
Twitter thread where Bona essentially
throws me
>> oh yes the Twitter thread the beautiful
Twitter thread.
>> Oh look Courtney KP up etc having power.
>> I want to point out this [\h__\h]
has never said my name ever again.
>> Not like us Kendrick Lamar.
>> They not like us. They not like us. They
not like us. Now that's it because
there's
>> a minor. A miner
>> me under the bus. Also, he threw KP
under the bus right after her video was
removed. So, they're not on good terms
anymore. Bon claims that I'm some sort
of drama YouTuber who threw allegations
about Emily in her face. He also claims
that this video that apparently I was
making was going to paint Emily in a bad
light.
>> First of all, I was never making the
video. Enter was. And Bunk knew that.
He's been in contact with Mr. Enter
since May 5th. And Enter tells him
exactly how his video is going to be
structured. What I'm planning on doing
for the video is fully establishing the
Sabers Spark stuff, the victim's
allegation, and the end of the video
will go into details about KP's
mishandling.
Who's my little Italian singer? Purple
Heart, sweetie.
>> Me. Me.
>> You want to know something crazy? I
would do that for an album.
>> Snake Eater from MG's 3.
>> What a thrill.
[Music]
>> He's going to let me.
[Music]
>> What a thrill
with Oh god. What a thrill when
silence through the night
through the night.
>> What a thrill.
>> Thrilling
[Music]
melt into you.
>> What a heart. No
>> think of the situation. End third act.
>> The only reason I could assume that Bonk
would assume that
it's because he's [\h__\h] stupid. Bob
talks like he knows what 100% of the
story when he only really knows like
half. He wasn't there. He doesn't know
what was said or what Emily and I talked
about. He's literally just making [\h__\h]
up. He also posted direct to his social
media which asked him not to do and he
just did it anyway. The same day after
crashing the [\h__\h] out and getting all
pissy that people were telling him to
not rely on him and actually rely.
>> Dude, his crashs are so [\h__\h]
beautiful, man.
>> Great. It'sum
it feeds me.
>> I wake up every day hoping for another
brony fan. Don't bonk crash out on
twitter.com
>> or blue sky uh
>> or whatever.
>> So, somebody somebody asked me
>> it's Twitter, too, but there's less
>> nothing. Somebody asked me uh yes, uh
the original singer is back to do a
different version of Snake Eater.
>> Um Pimento, why don't you tell me who
was in Paris? You tell me. Uhhuh.
Pimeto, I know you can. Um what was I
going to do? Oh, what was I going to
say? Oh, why do you know? So,
>> my brain hurt.
So, somebody asked me recently, "How do
you feel about Bonk never mentioning
you?" And I said, "Perfect."
Because here's the thing. Bonk messaged
me in mentioned me in the beginning and
only mentions Beckett. And I find it
very, very interesting because that
doesn't upset me. It's because my name
is the thing he fears the most. Bonk
will never bring me back up because he
knows that I am the thing that keeps him
up at night. I am the thing that scares
him the most and I am the nightmare
whenever he dreams. He will never
mention me because I am not a right-wing
fascist.
>> I on good resources like rain after
much.
>> I am the danger. He'll never mention me.
He also embarrassed himself in the
stream so it's funnier.
>> He tried throwing himself off a bridge
cursing my name and everyone calling him
out. I know a lot of people were
genuinely concerned with Bonk's behavior
and his ideation. I have no doubt that
he is suicidal. He has said as such.
This was a scary time for everyone. And
I want to say this regardless of how
Bonk has treated me. I don't wish him
harm to himself. And I don't wish him
death. And I don't wish him like
>> I thought Bon was most scared of Becket.
>> But then why does he keep bringing up
>> Why does he only bring up Becket?
>> Why am I the only in the room where it
happened?
>> Yeah. Why am I the only one he came to
stream to? Very interesting.
>> Any ill will. I just think he fails to
understand why the internet is being so
hostile towards him. But we can discuss
that in the final part. So since we
cleared all of that up, uh we were still
pondering on like what the hell are we
going to do? Even with Emily's past
controversies, even sending to
>> Thank you, Notrade. Thank you for the
$4.99. I don't know what the jug gif is,
but thank you nonetheless.
>> Have been a victim. I don't think so.
And it's not like Enter and I could
actually prove like that she was being
deceptive. We couldn't prove that her
timeline was wrong because there's
footage and there's even tweets to back
it up. We thought we proved her timeline
wrong with the phone discrepancy thing,
but then it turned out, oh, we just
didn't adjust the time zone. It was
correct. I admit her credibility due to
all these allegations isn't good. But
does that mean she's necessarily lying
about this specific thing? I don't know.
I can't prove that she's lying. I tried
to and she turned out being right.
Anyway, the most Enter video could do at
this point is build a timeline. So, we
prove that she's a person that
>> I've always said this too and Becca and
I agree on this. Uh Enter's video had
the much harder job. And knowing a
little bit more about Enter now, I give
him a lot of grace, especially cuz he
defended myself and Beckett.
It only happened in the room where it
happened. There you go, Embry. Um, enter
defended Beckett and myself when um,
Brony Fandon when Bon was saying that we
wished for his suicide. Uh, uh, here's a
fun new fun fact for you. Allegedly,
Brony Fandone is going around saying
Beckett was in the live stream
uh, telling, uh, Bonk to jump.
That is what he is alleging.
I don't even remember
Becket being around for that. Maybe he
maybe he was
>> uh he and I were No, no, he and I were
tracking it, but we had already known
people were were doing things and
calling,
>> but he wasn't streaming during it
either.
>> No, no, no, no. I was at work. We were
both I was at work and he was home.
>> He was working on the video.
>> Like Bon is clinically he's just the Bon
has delusions.
>> Mhm.
>> I don't think it's narcissism. I think
he's just delusional.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. Emy's boyfriend also said that who
Becket has allegedly talked to and it's
never come back up again.
>> And was friends with Steven, but that
was pretty much it. We would never know
for certain. And since it was an
incident over a decade ago and no one
else was in the room where
>> I didn't know that that was Fando. I
first heard it from Cameron uh Emily's
boyfriend. Yeah. I mean, it has to I
would assume it would come from Fandon,
though, because how would Cameron know
that? That's my whole thing. Why would
Cameron know that?
Yeah, fan don't didn't tell him. At
least that's what I believe.
Uh, no, Slug, you did not get accused.
Slug, you haven't mattered to Bernie
fan. I'm sorry.
>> Happened. The most we could do is give
everyone all the information that we
were able to find out and have people
come to their own conclusions. We
couldn't say outright one way or another
if Emily was telling the truth. But we
can give people beyond just the one
testimony and the timeline of events
that led to the victim making her
claims. we can basically build like a
much broader picture than KP had built
so that people at least had more to work
with and more to actually come to a
relatively educated like conclusion on
what they thought about this whole
thing. Now I'm sure you're probably
wondering why we didn't speak to Saber
Spark himself. And to answer this
question, we need to talk about Becket.
>> Lazy, do you want to come on and be a
test of Copen? Everybody
>> talking to Lazy Bad in like a couple
days. We can be honest.
So I admit there was a hesitancy to
speak to Copen. He wanted to get a hold
of me at some
>> Axis. Is that true?
>> Axis, is that even true
>> point? But I was just so wrapped up with
talking to KP, talking to Mr. Enter,
talking to Enter's team, everyone on
there. I just I didn't want to squeeze
another name in the pile of social
interactions that I would have to
endure. Plus, you know, Beck can attest
to this because we literally joked about
this, but like he and I get
characterized and like grouped into like
different sides of the YouTube
commentary spectrum. I usually get
categorized in the more like sympathetic
side to commentary and like believing in
victims and hearing people out. Um,
meanwhile, Becky gets categorized on
like the commentary bros sphere and rape
review.
>> Ultimate rape review.
>> What a crazy inclusion, dude.
>> Oh boy. I think what's really funny is
that people can't make up their mind
what I am. I've heard people think I'm
woke. I don't think I've ever said that
seriously. I think I've always made the
joke of it. You're gay means you're
woke.
>> H
>> You're gay, so you're woke.
>> I've always said I'm soy. Uh and this
has been like a weird allegation for
like a while. It's not the first time
I've heard of it. Um like people keep
saying I'm woke and I'm just like
um
I'd be very very curious about that.
Again, is Soy is like a
I don't like Soy is weird. I just
>> an insult.
>> I guess
>> soy is an insult that you're taking back
for the soyic silience.
>> Yeah, for the soyic silians. I gotten
soy, but that's because I I am
incredibly empathetic in coverage.
>> It's just always what I do.
Uh yes,
>> Fali is a Tuger commentary lover.
>> That is true. That means I do love the
autistics cuz the train season
[Applause]
right here.
So obviously there's some tension there,
but what I would describe Beckett more
so is like a mix of like commentary bro
and art CC. He kind of he stands out
like a
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Becket is the art CC.
>> I love it. I love it.
>> He does have a lot of lore. He does have
a lot of lore.
>> Yes, Lazy. Make him the new art CC.
>> A sore thumb because he's not like a
ride or die for these people. If they're
being dicks, he's going to call that
[\h__\h] out. It doesn't matter if they're
acquaintances or even close friends or
not. they're being
>> I think this is like uh one of the big
things that keeps getting misconstrued
uh in a lot of the recent stuff is like
uh like specifically like uh like a lot
of the relations that we have with the
art CC cuz obviously I'm not art CC um
but also like my relationship to like
Lio Convoy for instance where it's like
I don't
I don't really know Lio in the realm of
his uh like I never followed his
coverage. I only know him through
Beckett and uh Chris and other people's
coverage of him in which like he's
actively just a wrong all the time time.
Um like Lio is an idiot. Um
but like again like it's this weird
thing where it's like yeah we will call
each other out because I think it's
important. If we don't call each other
out it's like one of the most insane
things we'd ever not do. Um,
like you know what I mean? Like it's
it's incredibly bizarre.
God. Okay. Me after saying thanks queen
to the straightest men I've ever laid
eyes on. I'm not straight, but thank
you.
>> Me and Cat.
>> Becca talks about how they're being
stupid. You can see that in the ways
that he talks about Lio Convoy. Sure. He
comes to Ly's defense a lot these days,
but their whole friendship started out
with him being
>> Yeah. Uh, and like even even to be said
like
Lio is like like for instance, I started
off this stream [\h__\h] on Lio because
of Courtney because I told him that she
was a she's mentally unwell and having
her around is very very like crazy. Um,
and I was told, oh, you know, she need
like she's just, you know, she just
needs somebody. I [\h__\h] told him. I
[\h__\h] told him. Uh, don't forget Chris
is the rat king of the ACC. Yes. And
Chris like if there's anyone who's and
this is like uh like
this is how I feel personally and this
is where so many people like get [\h__\h]
wrong. Um
I trust the people who have covered the
ACC to hell and back more than I and
this is not a dig at Lio. Kind of is
actually. Um,
I trust the people who have covered the
ACC to Helen back. Um,
versus
Lio Convoy about the history of the ACC.
That's just the truth
because I know when it comes to like ACC
stuff and Ace and Yen like specifically
too. Uh I'll I'll reach out to Ace for
help on ACC stuff, but like um
I I just trust them because they have
covered the worst of the ACC and
criticized Lio to this day. Believe me,
they [\h__\h] berate the guy.
Um,
uh, have you and Becket covered this
drama enough to become horse famous? I
[\h__\h] hope so. I [\h__\h] hope I hope
I'm horse famous.
>> Yeah, that's No, that's that's like the
the
>> um Lio's too biased a lot for a lot of
the [\h__\h] that that is hidden by him. Uh,
yeah. I would like again I think he I
think he [\h__\h] up from Doodle Tones.
The fact that Doodle got away is a f I
hate him for that. Not hate. Hate is a
strong word. Um, but like it's so
[\h__\h] frustrating. It's so [\h__\h]
frustrating to me.
Commentary should have had the ability
to rip Doodles apart. I I fine with like
Truly and everybody else. I totally get
commentary should have had the like we
should have like screamed at Doodles on
the way out.
>> Very critical. still violence on Twitter
to this very day. Despite
>> if somebody has the um uh if somebody
has the clip of the Dan's burst thing uh
the the one where like he says the thing
Why didn't you then I did I did complain
to him. I actually told Lio the next
time he does [\h__\h] like that we need to
be in the call or commentary needs to
handle it. You can know you can ask Lio
Convoy. I tell him that they cannot
handle their [\h__\h] anymore.
Like legitimately,
you can ask Lio. I've told him that the
ACC should stop handling their [\h__\h] and
hand it off to people that can. I don't
like it cuz every time it's met with
like, and don't get me wrong, Truly has
done great work and stuff like that, but
every time I keep seeing like the the
the ACC, the SEC giving a little bit too
much leeway to people. Uh very like what
is it? Spock the Ponder, is that what
their name is? Uh, going in
uh to the Doodles call and trying to be
like empathetic to Doodles after all
this [\h__\h] is found out about her. No, go
[\h__\h] yourself. I think that that's way
too kind
>> the fact that they're friendly with each
other. But aside from, you know,
breaking that barrier, there was one
other thing that made me hesitant about
speaking to Becca. Emily's partner,
Cameron, who I've also spoken to like
once or twice during the duration of
everything. He made the claim that
during Bunk's attempt on live stream,
Becca was in the live chat telling him
to jump. I
>> I Who else would this come from? This
would only come from [\h__\h] bonk in my
opinion. Who who like what was Emily and
her boyfriend watching? That's insane.
>> I did ask Becket directly about this and
it's not true. He didn't do this. In
fact, when I asked him about this, he
was actually pretty offended. Like, he
wasn't mad at me. He was just really
confused. Based on our conversations, it
just doesn't seem like he would joke
about that kind of stuff. Maybe he said
something like along the lines of, "Oh,
I would kill myself or I want to kill
myself." Like, that's an ongoing joke in
this community, but like I I do the same
[\h__\h] too. We're just joking about
>> Yes, we all say this all the time. and
we cover some of the worst [\h__\h] on the
internet.
>> On ourselves, not wishing that on other
people. Regardless, before speaking to
Becket, I had a poor perception of his
character.
>> They're all poisoned by the Steven
Universe mindset is hilarious. What's
up, Yen? What did you send me?
[Music]
>> No, no, no, no, no, no. Appreciate you.
Love you. No,
that'll f I do not want that stream
demonetized.
Yen, that'll demonetize my stream. I'm
not showing that. I love you, but no,
I'm not showing the DMs right now.
>> That made me think, oh, why should I
talk to this guy? He's just some
contrarian [\h__\h] who doesn't care
about victims and just wants to like
troll and be
>> I'll put in I'll put in the Discord
later.
>> But after actually sitting down with
talking to him for like seven hours in
our first Bowie. Yeah.
>> Had and even beyond that over the course
of like
>> which Dansbur stingamajig are you
talking about?
There are no ex coming to my home when
when his mom comes in because I need
Lazy to be in the room for that one.
>> I don't know what I want like two weeks
or something like that. Um we have come
to an understanding of each other. Even
beyond us both working on the same
story, we would just kind of shoot the
[\h__\h] about other things and I would walk
away from our calls feeling better,
feeling less anxious and worried. And I
know we already talked about this. His
video on me, it is what it is. It's
harsh. It's not very nice, but it was
humbling. It was necessary. Hell, I
mean, like in retrospect, if you
actually watch it, it doesn't even talk
about me that much. The point is I'm
very critical of other people on this
channel. If I can't handle it, I
shouldn't be dishing it out.
>> This is why Okay, this is why
>> if you could take it on the chin, if you
could if you can get criticism and and
you know, learn or move on from it,
whichever, like
>> you're going to you're going to go far.
You'll be fine.
>> This is why I like Lazy because I voiced
my and I was less nice than Becket.
I was less nice than Becken on the
platform because I didn't talk to Lazy.
So I was like, "No, she's [\h__\h] like"
Like I was like, "Becket's being too
nice again."
I'll be legit like talking to Lazy was
a good It has been cuz we still talk has
been a really nice experience because
she has opened up the feeling of what
this video meant to her.
I don't know. Like I I feel like that's
like the thing that like shouldn't be
lost is that like she recognizes that
the story could have and should have
been told better and is trying to make
up for it. That's more than anybody
does.
>> Just that simple. I have to accept when
I get criticism and I can't get pissy
because I criticize people all the time.
And besides, Becket may have been
critical of my work, but before reducing
his section on me, he had Anthony defend
my video in an interview that got cut
when we ended up talking things out.
Now, originally this section was much
longer and way more pissed off. I
actually included Anthony Grammarly
giving a defense of lazy bed to provide
some kind of balance, but I have since
spoken to her at length both about the
Saber Spark allegations and the wider
story involving Black Griffin. And as
much of this section was directed
pointedly towards her, that feels a
little bit redundant at this point.
>> Why would he even listen to anyone who
thought my video was good if he thought
that I was malicious and awful? The
bottom line is despite what many would
suspect, like Becca and I don't hate
each other. Hell, he was defending me in
the live chat of his premiere video, The
Shaming of Sabers Spark. He wanted to
know if I had received any harassment
because of that video so that he could
shoot it down. Does that sound like
someone who hates me or doesn't want me
represented fairly? Does that sound like
this heartless troll who laughs when
people are suicidal and just wants the
worst for everybody?
>> I I don't think so. Now, there are some
things that Becca does I don't
particularly agree with. He does pick on
Bonk a lot relentlessly. Let's be fair.
Claps back at him by calling him an
alt-right loser. And all I can say to
that is all's fair and love and war. I
know Becca doesn't need me to help him.
He doesn't need me to defend his honor,
but I'm going to because I think this is
stupid. Bonk genuinely believes
>> uh Lord of Destruction. I've never
played Front Mission. I probably should
one of these days.
>> I don't even know who that is. Uh, it's
a JRPG
uh mech game from like the like
>> Oh, I think I've seen the cover.
>> I've just never played them as a kid.
>> Chat, we are one dono away from Leia
getting another treat. Please, who wants
to be?
>> You will also get card posting in the
corner.
>> Yes, we will find out what card is
posting.
>> We will find out what card is posting. I
hope he made he I hope this [\h__\h] guy
made a playlist for the number counting.
>> I looked. I don't remember if he did. I
think he might have. He should have. mod
card.
>> That Becket's YouTube name, Copen, is an
alt-right dog whistle.
>> It's not.
>> That's it.
>> That's the end. That's That's all he
has.
>> Hey, Yed with the $12
me.
>> Yes.
>> Somebody listens to me.
>> And
the angel with another dollar. And Lazy
head with a dog. Dog dog. Holy [\h__\h]
guys.
>> A dog.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Oh my god. Oh my god.
>> Dog, dog, dog, dog, dog, dog.
>> H.
I really want to see Le get another
treat.
>> I love you guys.
>> Insanely begging techniques.
>> Oh my god, you guys are great.
>> No refunds.
[Laughter]
>> How about kite tonight for a song?
>> Uh, I did it before. Hold
the world to ease my troubled mind. And
now it's time to feed the dog on the out
stream till the end of time.
There you go. Go get it, girl.
Oh, look at her. Look at her chomp and
munch.
>> Yen, you've been saved by Superman.
>> Angie Angel, you have been saved by
Superman.
>> Lazy bed, you have been saved by
Superman. Draftal, you have been saved
by Superman. Starbird, you're a bird,
but Superman still saved you.
>> Superman saved you from being a bird.
>> Thank you.
>> Now, what is card posting?
>> Hold up. I got to put the next my new
favorite segment. What is card posting?
>> What is card posting? Chad, if you don't
know, our favorite YouTuber, card
posting,
uh, until card posting does something
wrong on the platform.
guard posting. Don't be evil. That's all
I'm asking.
>> It's a very small, very small request.
>> Hello there. My name's
>> Yes. Card. Okay. Playlists.
Yes. He does. Okay. If
>> it's
>> Yes.
>> All right. All right. All right. All
right. All right. So, here's what
happens on this episode of card posting.
I'm going to put it as a pop out.
And you guys, oh, I got to uh do the
display capture. I have to do this
differently so you guys can see it.
>> Uh display capture.
>> Just remember, they will see that all
things.
>> Oh, that's that's why they won't hear
anything else.
>> You will still see card in the corner.
Card will
I card posting. If you see this,
>> this is with love.
>> Straight up. Straight up. Card posting.
If you see this and don't like this,
straight up let me know.
>> I will stop doing it. Like,
>> uh, this is just to support that card
posting, um, card posting is, uh,
actively trying to get like a Guinness
World Record. Um,
and
I want to support that. Again, card
posting. If for some reason you see this
and you don't like this, please let me
know. You can DM me uh on Twitter or uh
uh FGEXE
um on uh
uh
>> you can DM me on Twitter, you can email
me. Uh you can do FGX on Discord. Like
straight up, if you don't like it, if
this is not okay, please let me know. I
will we will not do this. Um just as a
heads up.
>> No, I'm not kidding. Now, could some
right-wing jackass say Copen Steve, and
you know, Copen Steve lived hard on the
internet? Yeah, sure. But, dude, it's
it's just internet slime. Everybody has
said, it's like the new deal with
>> my name's Card.
>> Oh, god. Val Card Card is not counting
yet.
>> When card counts.
>> I don't know if you all know this or
not, but Copen is owned by two people.
The other person,
>> listen, leave card is card is like a
treasure. We need to protect card
posting like at all times.
>> Hey, Fal, did you show off you made
Sona? I have not
>> also bunny suits or magical girls.
>> Why not both? Uh, no, I haven't yet. I'm
going to. I'm going to do it at the end
of the stream, Pinker. But thank you for
reminding me.
>> Magical girls. Now, I know how this
works. I know Blair White exists. I know
that's not indicative of anything. Jenny
has even said some things I don't
necessarily agree with, but to be fair,
we all have to have our anti-SJW face at
some point. I would know. I'm just
saying that I doubt Beckett would share
his login information with a trans woman
if he was actually altight. Plus,
>> remember Jenny runs the channel?
>> LGBTQ Pride badges. Why would a guy who
is alt-right hang out with Thumin and
Truly, two black women and leftists, I
think. Why would he make a video against
just a robot? An anti-SJW movie review
bro or whatever he is. Like, this
argument like
>> just a robot is a psychopath
>> falls apart the moment you actually get
to know Beagot or even talk to him once,
which Bonk refuses to do. He refuses to
watch Copenste's videos about himself or
the
>> uh Yeah, baby. Sorry about you. There's
so much freaking and much time in the
two transcripts I think I think are
relevant. That's fine.
>> Spark stuff to this day. Regardless,
when I spoke to Copen, he'd been in
contact with Saber Spark who was asking
to be completely left off the record.
>> Now, that conversation I had with Sab
Spark is unfortunately off the record.
He doesn't feel comfortable at the
moment coming out and making random
public statements. And I'll be fair, I
do respect that decision.
>> Saber was still building up a case for a
potential lawsuit. And if you know
anything about the legal process, you
need to shut the [\h__\h] up. You can't be
talking too much to the public about
your case. Because, you know, if you
share too much, whatever evidence you
provide to the public can't be used in a
courtroom because it's already been
under public scrutiny. And whoever looks
over the evidence has to have an
unbiased perspective. So, a judge and
jury has to be looking at this evidence
for the first time in a courtroom vetted
by lawyers, not by Twitter. So, we
weren't sure if he'd be willing to talk
to us too much because his response
video seemed to be the final time he was
ever going to speak on it. That was
until Emily went public with who she
was, which was the final push for Saber
to go on record with Becket. In a way,
you know, as bad as an interviewer as I
am, self-adittedly, I'm glad that the
interview happened. It gave both Saber
and Becket something to compare and
contrast with what their side of the
story was. They had her on record, so
now it was just all a means of debunking
her record.
>> Obviously, one of the big things when
the enter thing came out, uh, just to
provide a correction, yes, Julie is
Native American and Latino. Uh, she is
not black. Um,
just to just to highlight that for a
second. Uh, Julie very very nice, by the
way. Uh, I do like Julie. Um,
>> she's a nice server, I think.
>> Yeah, very nice. Uh, rule of thumb in my
opinion, if you like OP, you would like
probably like Becket and British Runner
and probably Diesel. Uh, you will like
Diesel if you like us. That is like 100%
just a thing. Uh, Diesel does a lot more
of the normie commentary stuff. Uh,
which has been very nice.
>> If we are on a Superman theme, then we
need the immigrant song by Zeppelin.
[Music]
Slug,
[Music]
that's your own fault.
>> I'm shocked. Lazy was racist to me for
being Latino.
>> Yes. Well, you you should that that
should happen.
>> Becca kept me the entire time. He showed
me the text messages. He told me about
the process of his research, who he was
talking to, who he was able to get in
touch with. And many people would say
that I'm biased for doing this. That I
should be giving back to time. Look at
how he handles himself on Twitter. Look,
he says the R word. Look, he's an
abbleist. Look, I don't agree with
everything Becca does. Okay, the most
you can say about him is that he's a
dick. And he knows that. He says so
himself that he can be an [\h__\h] And
normally I don't like people that revel
in the fact that they're [\h__\h] who
only make content for entertainment.
However, when speaking to him
one-on-one, it did genuinely seem like
he cared about Saber in a situation. He
did seem passionate about the truth. So,
I can respect his pursuit of that whilst
also acknowledging that I can't control
how he conducts himself online. Like,
listen, the guy is 30 or something. He
pays his own bills and quit. I can't
control his language and swirl his mouth
with soft when he uses a slur. I am not
his mother. Even if he is the biggest
[\h__\h] in the world, Becket is one
thing that bonk and KP are not. He is
upfront and he's honest. Becket didn't
hide the fact that he didn't like my
video. He told me straight to my face
that he thought it was bad. I knew that
before his video came out because he's
not going to blindside me or [\h__\h]
me. He was upfront. He kept me up to
date. And getting information from him
wasn't the equivalent of pulling my
teeth out. And I was some help to him,
too. He got to talk to Entra because I
recommended it. He got to talk to Emily
because I convinced her to have that
conversation. So, forgive me for working
with the alt-right douchebag Becket
instead of the guy who jerks it to Woo
Master. My bad. So, let's talk about the
downfall of Emily Jones.
>> Card, where we at?
>> I reckon that soon enough I'll blow
right past 1 million.
>> Okay, Card, we'll come back, buddy.
>> I'll come back soon.
>> Beck's investigation.
>> No. And it felt shitty to do, but it was
necessary to do. After we told KP of the
Dropbox information, she immediately ran
to Copen and told him all about it. She
also decided to use this Dropbox docs as
a threat against Emily, even if I did
keep KP,
>> which is insane. I like I don't I don't
like that either. I think that's a weird
threat. KP is a [\h__\h] [\h__\h] and should
never touch videos again like this ever.
>> In the loop about absolutely everything
Becket was sharing with me. There was no
way I could trust her not to run her
mouth. So, I didn't because I don't
trust her. Despite my best effort in
forming the timeline so [\h__\h] crazy
based on
>> this is a lazy uh this is a good video.
This is a good lazy
>> I like this video. I like this video
>> footage and tweets. There was one piece
of this puzzle that just didn't fit in
the picture at all. And that piece was
Emily pulling away from Saber Spark
after EQL.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Lazy. Yes. Lazy, you
listened.
>> Play 2012. Based on the text message
data that Saber was fortunate enough to
find, we can see it's not true. Now, I
should point this out because I know
this is an argument. I know there are
victims of rape who will still remain
cordial with the rapist. I know people
in my personal life who still remain in
contact or try to remain on friendly
terms with those that have hurt them on
the basis of either keeping the peace or
just being in denial that they were ever
hurt to begin with. This does happen
when victims are in denial that they
were victimized. They'll try and
maintain a relationship with the person
that hurt them so that they don't have
to face the reality of what actually
happened. And if that was Emily's
excuse, I completely understand that.
But that wasn't her excuse. She claims
to have been a massive people pleaser,
which I mean, sure, I guess I can see
that. But aside from that, she also
claims to have forgotten about these
text messages entirely, which I find
that really hard to believe. I spoke to
this girl for a month. We asked her so
many detailed questions, so we had every
inch of the story down to a tea. She was
able to remember things about the cons
and the hotels from 10 years ago. She
remembers each and every controversy and
had an answer for all of her past
internet blonders. remembered times and
dates.
>> This is so accurate is that Emily is
able to present a 300page document about
each and every single
drama that she has ever been in in the
Sonic community all the way throughout
her life, but can't remember if she
texted Saber outside of those two
instances.
It's ridiculous. It's an it's it's just
a lie. Like I can't
there there's no other explanation than
lying. There's no other explanation.
Like there like that's just like the
whole issue that I have. There's no
other explanation for it than lying
>> and had an answer for everything except
for this. The one thing that makes her
narrative fall apart. She coincidentally
just forgets about it. She pulled away
from Saber after that when the text
messages clearly show that that's just
not true. Like her claim was so heavily
banking on the text message data and the
Skype blogs no longer existing. And if
she was honest about that, I wouldn't be
harping on it so much. But it's the fact
that she wasn't honest. And now I feel
like I should have just stuck to
thinking that she was a deceptive liar
just based on her controversy. I want I
want to go back to that because I was
right then. I was correct. I just I
didn't know it. But I was correct in
assuming that she
>> Yes, the I have memory problem stuff is
falls apart when you start talking about
all the other stuff too. It just falls
apart. It just falls apart. was a light,
but I just didn't want to let her down
like KP already did. I didn't want to do
exactly what Bonk thought I was going to
do, which was, you know, make drama
content that paid her out to be like a
bad person. And after our conversations,
you know, despite her flaws in her past
drama, I just I didn't think she was an
awful person. I mean, there's no such
thing as a perfect victim, but clearly
she lied to my face.
>> Yeah.
>> And that's so it's so [\h__\h]
infuriating.
>> Yeah. What's up? for Lady Anona's 21st
birthday today. Can you just really
quickly explain Emily again?
>> Emily Jo Oh, no, no, no. How do I How
can I help opera? I don't know how I can
help opera. For those who don't know,
Emily Jones is a uh is a Sonic content
creator. Uh she is a singer. She is also
the alleged victim of Saber Spark. Emily
has a whole host of
uh controversies and accusations of her
own. Um from sleeping with the voice of
uh Sonic Ryan Drummond while he was
still married
um while uh sleeping with other
individuals to oust them out of voice
acting roles and then cutting the door
so no other people uh could get in the
door as well. to very famously being on
a Dr. Phil episode about wanting to be
pregnant at 16. I want to make it very
clear that
yes, there's like a through line of
Emily potentially lying in certain
instances and doing mean girl [\h__\h]
whatever. I don't really care about that
as much. Uh, does it present a pattern
that she may be dishonest? Sure. But
that doesn't really matter in the grand
scheme of things. What matters is the
allegations of rape
um that don't have any connection proof.
It's he said, she said, but also lying
about her relationship with Saber after
the point because does Amy know? Yeah,
of course she knew.
>> No, Sonic Amy.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes, Amy does know. Uh because
she had an account that was an Amy throw
like a Amy private account. Um that's
not the point. Um,
>> not Amy knew.
>> No, I know. I know. I know. I know. I
know. I know what Pimementa meant.
>> Okay.
>> Um,
>> and it's very weird. It's It's
>> It's one of those things where it's
like, again, she has all this evidence
to highlight why she is uh exonerated
from other instances, but not from with
Saber Spark. And it's very weird.
>> And uh before we continue,
>> yes.
>> What is card posting? 417. 418.
>> Is that 418?
>> Go get him, Card.
>> Sure. In a lie. You know, I couldn't
prove that she was directly lying to my
face.
>> Also, can we just talk about for a
second? Card has beautiful hair. His
hair is really nice.
>> Prove it. And I'm [\h__\h] pissed.
>> Or there. I don't know if you see he
they or they. I don't know their
pronouns. I'm really sorry.
>> Reflect on this entire situation and it
has been emotional and a very major
challenge. It has really shined a
spotlight on not only my understanding
on how everything has happened since my
first testimony being released, but also
especially regarding how I have carried
self-destructive habits with me into
adulthood that I have clung on to since
being a child. Not being able to
remember these moments of me betraying
myself through acting like I was not
only fine, but even enjoy taking part in
these occurrences and reliving them
again when brought to my attention felt
extremely heavy on me as I sat with
myself asking why I needed to do this
for years. It isn't easy being eight and
feeling like the responsibility of your
entire life changing is on you if you
spoke up and told an adult what was
happening or being 12 worrying that if
you said something to the teacher as a
classmate assault you that maybe you
would be the one to get in trouble
because you didn't understand. Wait, so
those are the blacked out parts in that
statement. Then
>> I didn't want to confront that reality
by telling him and instead just played
along because for the longest time I
remained in spaces with people where I
was not wanted. I regret not expressing
it and regret putting myself in a space
where I shouldn't have stayed. While I
still am firm on consent not being given
>> Oh yeah, this is the the other thing
too.
>> In these two situations, I don't want
Saber to continue taking heat for what
happened because I really do not think
he realized this. I do still believe he
should have been careful and more
mindful about his approach when
interacting with me and communicating
clearly with me to make sure I wanted
these sexual encounters before
initiating them. It would have been much
easier to avoid them altogether, but
just as you could have done that, I
could have been more upfront by either
telling him or stop interacting.
>> This is just a soft retraction of the
allegation. I'm sorry. Um,
this is just a soft retraction of it
based on all the evidence at hand.
This is such a weird statement. And I
can't remember if the uh Lazy, does this
come before or after
um does this come before or after the uh
the showing of the text messages? Do you
remember this specific statement? I
actually can't remember. Off thought in
my head. This video a blur for me.
What is advocate? What did you do to me?
What is this ad? What did you do to me?
I think this was after.
>> So this is
>> So this is after she sees the text
messages and it's like, "Oh, text
messages exist." This is what I'm
saying. The statement changes so
considerably.
So considerably
entirely. I feel really good about
having a proper path out for me, when it
comes to the work I have to do to
finally heal from not only the
situation, but other sexual traumas I've
endured. Healing is something we need to
take control of ourselves because no one
else is going to do the work. While the
people pleasing was something I
developed in a time of need, I can't
carry that with me anymore as an adult
because it is no longer serving me.
>> I saw the writing on the wall. So, I
decided to help those who were more
confident in getting the truth out there
because, you know, by that point, that's
all I gave a [\h__\h] about and it sucked.
It really [\h__\h] sucked to try and help
this person befriend them somewhat,
actually get to know more about them.
And it all turned out to be total
[\h__\h] And having to feed her off to
Becket, that that sucked, too, because I
>> Thank you, AD. Thank you. AD
>> knew he was going to tell her about the
text messages and how her story didn't
matter. I knew that. I knew that was
going to happen.
>> I am Brony Fano's nightmare. I'm going
to post that on Twitter tonight. Thank
you.
>> But maybe maybe she'd give him a better
explanation. Maybe she would say
something to Becket that would change
his mind and change the narrative again
and we could all be on the same page.
And that that didn't happen. I didn't
get that. I want to say this directly to
Saber Spark. Um I know I've spoken like
poorly of you in the past, so I
understand if you don't want to engage
my words. I have criticism of you. Don't
get me wrong. There are things we don't
agree on, but I think entertaining Emily
at all was a massive, massive mistake.
I'm really, really sorry. I feel like I
was lied to. I wanted to believe this
girl, but after hearing your interview
with Becket, I think we can at least
agree we're on the same page and saying
that we don't we don't want this whole
thing to be like yet another example of
why people won't speak out against their
abusers. People will point to this and
be like, "Well, remember the Saber Spark
story?" That's why you should assume
that people who come out about this
stuff are lying. Look at what he had to
go through. I don't I don't want this to
be like another Slazo or Cite. And
clearly, you don't either. I don't like
living in a world where people lie about
this. Not quite again.
I will just continue
>> because you know it's rare and the
people who use these stories of false
accusations use them as cannon.
>> Uh I want to make something very very
clear
and I actually kind of want to say this.
Um
is this
But from how I have spoken to Saber, I
will say this because I think it's
actually it needs to be said. Um,
Saber Spark. Uh, uh, I'm going to
actually pause card posting because I
actually need to
I'm not gonna I I will say this. I don't
want to speak for Saber, but I do want
to say this. Um,
Saber doesn't want his story to ever be
used to
um disparage or cast doubt on other
people's testimony in the future.
Um,
I
and I will say that from speaking with
him. Um, I'm not going to like leak the
conversations obviously, but I want to
make it very very clear in my
conversation, mine and Becca's
conversation. Becca could back me up on
this if he was around.
Saber does not want his story to be used
to disparage victims of sexual assault
or victims in general. Um, and it's
something that has been expressed a lot
to myself.
Um,
it's
and it just sucks
because like
um
it's going to come up so I'm just going
to say it too. Like obviously we're
friends with Quite. Quite was on our
stream when we were covering uh the
original uh Saber Spark leaks and even
Quite was speaking uh from his own point
of view, from his own experience.
Um, and that that's kind of just how it
is. I I can tell you for certain that
Saber never wants his story to be used
directly uh to disparage other victims
or to cast out. Um, and that actually he
says it he does say it in his um he does
say it in his uh response video, but I
do want to make that abundantly clear.
Uh just because that is a sentiment he
has echoed both publicly and privately.
I don't know that it matters to me to
actually say that out loud. Um
don't do what? Don't use his story to
disparage or cast doubt on other
victim's testimony.
Don't because a YouTuber got accused of
something and it was proven later to not
be the case. Use that as a measure to
cast doubt.
>> Yen tipped $6.90.
Hush, little fand, don't say a word and
never mind that Italian that you heard.
It's just the commentary under your bed
in your timeline in your head. Enter
Sandman.
Thank you. Thank you, Yen. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Yen.
>> Um, yes. Card pausing. Um,
>> but it just matters to reiterate uh just
uh I don't I don't know. It just it just
matters to me to reiterate that that uh
these people in these scenarios don't
like their stories being used to cast
out on other people's stories. And I can
say that specifically for Saber. That is
how he feels
>> to put people down to discredit real
stories and even systemically credible
stories that don't amount to anything.
Like the people who actually have been
violated have it so hard because it
feels like systemically everything is
against them and will side with the bad
guys which is why I was really happy
when you shared rain as a resource. It
it shows you care and for doubting that
at all. I'm really sorry. I mean at
least like the silver lining of this
insanity is that people know what Rain
is. I mean that was a really pleasant
surprise seeing that in Saber's video.
It felt so genuine to see that. I hope
that I can raise more money for Rain in
the future because they are a really
great resource. They have all the stats.
They work with so many victims. They
actually know their [\h__\h] Unlike,
>> hey, we're here everybody. It's bond
time.
>> Before we move on, I would like to read
this Discord message posted to KP's
community. I have asked you guys to stop
talking about this publicly in the
server. I don't know the exact specifics
of the new information. But what I do
know is there is a general implication
that there was some kind of sexual
encounter. And unless you were there or
someone recovers video footage of said
encounter, I'm stopping this in its
tracks. We as third party people can
never really know. Is the accuser
perfect? Doesn't seem like it. Is this
also leaning into some perfect victim
ideology? Absolutely. I understand some
parties are hurt.
>> Then why did you I hate her. I hate her
so much. Yeah. Car drink that water
>> situation. But there can also be
multiple parties hurt. And I am tired of
that not even being a consideration.
This is a complicated situation where
multiple things can be true. [\h__\h]
enough. I show you this because I
believe KP and Bonk are one and the
same. I know Betty claims that based on
his interactions that KP seems
remorseful. This clearly shows that
she's not. And neither is
>> KP is not remorseful. She's just sorry
she got caught.
>> I I wouldn't even say caught. I would
say that that it this blew up in the way
it did. Like
>> she when she got the green light from
from Emily, it was all steam ahead. And
now that other people who aren't Emily
are watching it and giving her
uh rightful criticism. It's just it's
it's clear that nobody watched it or if
anybody watched it, they did not
actually give her like legit criticism.
>> Yeah. 100% 100%.
>> Bonk. Both refuse to watch Becca's
content and listen to important newfound
information. Both are clearly willing to
double, triple, quadruple down instead
of just apologizing. Both are annoying
and both are willing
to use allegations as a weapon, serving
as terrible representations for victims.
I think the only way we can talk about
Bonk is to use him as an example of what
not to do if you want to fight for
victims. I swear to God, the only thing
that ages well in my Black Griffith
video is the Bonk segment. Let it be
stated for the record, I never liked
that [\h__\h] I still don't. And
let me explain you why. So,
>> I hate your [\h__\h] guts and your
family, too.
>> What my initial reason for not liking
Bonk was. Now, I did want to talk about
the only point that this document brings
up that I do somewhat agree with. Pony
fan don't, or do as he has asked to be
called, has made some very concerning
posts using the fan don't account. Aside
from
>> it bonk, but it's okay. offending other
Twitter users of drawing sexualized pony
characters and claiming that it's fine
because they're not real children that
exist. They also have claimed that
Gabriel provided voice.
>> Yeah. You know what's worse? She knew
Emu Emmy from the beginning. I'm glad
Lazy talked mad queen [\h__\h] to KP. Yeah.
Yeah. We're all there. Like again
KP lied to everybody about not knowing
who she was.
She literally lied to everybody
because she didn't want to be like she
wanted to seem like she was bamboozled
like the rest of us and she knew. It was
very interesting. Very, very
interesting.
>> Voice work for a video where Sweetie
Bell is depicted with male DNA on her
face. And I think sharing this, even if
these characters aren't real, is very
strange to do. Plus, it's neither
confirmed that Gabe had any involvement
with this weird sexual music video
anyways. So, I don't even know why Pony
Fando is providing it as evidence. Pony
Fan Don't has also posted weird pictures
of minor characters from MLP and even
made tweets saying that age was just a
number. Unfortunately, there is
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, here's the thing,
right? Brony Fan don't will uh contest
this specific uh screenshot. Let me see
if I can grab it.
>> Brony Fan Don't has also posted weird
pictures of minor character from MLP 13
years ago. So, let's talk about this.
So, Brony Fand is 28 and made this post
when they were uh they were a minor and
doing this roleplay [\h__\h] Here's the
crazy thing though. They would say this
again when defending when defending the
art because now I just lost my headphone
and I kicked my headphone out. When
defending the art of the [\h__\h] weirdo
[\h__\h] Noel thing. Ain't that right,
Greg?
>> Uh, I don't remember Noel. I remember
the Wootmaster stuff.
>> What?
>> I remember Woot Master. I don't remember
Noel.
>> Uh, Noel is the the Delta Rune
character.
>> Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Got a
>> was just a number. Unfortunately, there
isn't a lot of context to any of this,
aside from it being like [\h__\h] weird.
My biggest issue with Fandom personally,
aside from them being inconsistent
between accounts, is the fact that they
want the story to have their narrative
be the prominent one. Instead of
recognizing the complexities of the
situation, he constantly speak on behalf
of people who already said that they
don't regard themselves as victims. And
it's not respecting that. He just
ignores that and is very my way or the
highway about it. Either you believe
that Clare is a victim of Gabriel or you
defend a groomer. There's no moral gray
you can take up. It's just what he wants
the narrative to be. And I mean, I
understand why, but getting into literal
arguments with people that you're trying
to convince are grooming victims is just
not how you want people to self-reflect
on their potentially harmful
relationships. And you cannot be
advocating for the safety of children in
the Brony community whilst posting
sexual content of characters from the
show who are minors and claiming that
well, that's okay because they're not
real. It just makes you look like a
hypocrite or at the very
>> Yes. Yes. Go off, queen.
>> And at really weird places. The reason I
gave in my Black Griffin video boils
down to three things. One, his past is
really [\h__\h] shady. Two, he has gotten
things about Black Griffin completely
wrong in the past. And three, him
fighting with Claire and Michelle. real
people he is claiming are victims that
he wants to help actually doesn't help
at all. All he's effectively doing is
trying to force words in their mouth and
put labels on them that they don't
identify with. And all of this makes the
cases for Destiny and the Snapchat
victim and Ji Lim all the more up for
unfair scrutiny. If these people are
telling the truth about Gabe, Bonk
builds a terrible case for them because
the representative pushing for justice
with their platform is a nut case. Bonk,
for whatever reason, doesn't seem to
believe that he is the leading charge.
>> He's a [\h__\h] psychopath. Again, I
think Bonk is a paranoid schizophrenic.
uh listening to Lazy's interview, which
we will uh um listen to a little bit.
This kid is like this 28-year-old is
just so I'm just a little guy and he
just talks big behind the screen, but if
you get him into an interview,
>> he's so small and so [\h__\h] pathetic.
Bonk, you're pathetic.
You will always be pathetic as long as
you remain being bonk. Leave the
internet. Get mental health help and
leave this behind. You have ruined this
for any victims you believe exist.
Your hubus is the reason why this is
failing.
>> That's actually that's actually
kind of a crazy point, too. If Bon ever
goes forward in the future to try to
help out anybody else who says who
claims to be a victim, nobody will
believe him or them. Yep. because of
him.
>> Yep.
>> That's actually
so demoralizing.
>> So here here's the thing, right? It is
interesting to note that Bonk does get
information from Sophie and Amy.
It is interesting to note that as
Captain C says because that comes up in
the interview where he's like yes um
uh uh yes uh which who is it? He he's
like talking about the fact that oh they
gave me the info that doesn't Yes. Uh
Amy and I believe Sophie and even Ian
are using Bonk as a mouthpiece so they
can um
they can uh avoid scrutiny. However,
Sophie was publicly using the Brony
Fandon account as she's been very quiet
recently.
When it comes to
when it comes to Amy, Amy's a little
less quiet about it. Amy will like throw
weird pot shots. Recently threw pot
shots at Enter. And again, nobody really
cares who the [\h__\h] Amy New is. Uh,
outside of the fact that she's a
constant liar. Um, and she's married to
Peter New. That's the only important
thing about her.
Otherwise, she literally is the most
unimportant human being that's ever
existed in human existence.
I don't really care.
I'm not sad about saying that,
but like that. Yeah, Amy is just
annoying. like she's like a gnat that
like you shoe away because like that's
like nobody cares. Bonk said he did vet
uh Emily. Yes, Bon.
>> He said in our chat that he vetted
Emily.
>> Yes, he said in our chat as well when we
asked
>> when we asked for he knew who she was.
He said it in our chat too
>> and Oh, he even stated if you that we
would believe her if we knew who she was
and then we found out who she was and we
still we have questions.
>> Yep. Exactly. charge or the de facto
head of the story despite the fact that
he is the only one that is talking about
it. He's the only one pulling the case
against Gabe together. I mean I know
Reddit picked it up too and there's a
whole Google doc and they tried their
hand at it but I mean Bonk is very
controlling of the narrative. You want
to know something that's
>> well that's the other thing too. Bonk is
constantly controlling and what's really
interesting according to Claire she
believes Ian Corlet told Amy about the
allegations against Gabe personally. I'm
very also inclined to believe that.
Uh, I also do think Amy plays a bigger
role,
but I like telling Amy that she's
completely unimportant because she will
see that it
Amy the claim to fame Amy has is [\h__\h]
someone. That is her only claim to fame.
Deal with it.
>> Really, really funny. Despite my video
effectively presenting their case and
all of their findings, despite linking
the Google document in my bio, despite
standing with Destiny and the Snapchat
victim, despite literally validating
their work, Bump and Sophie hated my
Black Riven video. They hated it. And
the primary reason is because I wouldn't
lick long paint. Like I said, I came at
the Black Riven story being an outsider.
>> Card card, what are you doing?
>> We're in a new spot. What is Carding?
>> 1,314 1,315 1,36.
>> Brother, you can hear the [\h__\h]
crickets at night. 1,320
1,321,32
>> Damn Card with the man bun is like
killing it. Holy [\h__\h]
>> You can get it. You can get it.
>> Card, you look great, dude.
>> Looking in someone not emotionally
invested with anyone. And I thought that
my criticism of Bon
>> I I do love Card's background. I will
say that. Uh
>> it is rad.
>> It's rad. It's very similar to one of
our things uh like one of our uh uh our
template. Uh
>> so what is Card trying to do? He's
trying to beat the world record of
counting on camera. The current record
holder is 1 million. He wants to get to
2 million.
>> I and I we will support him by watching
every video
>> was going to help him more than
anything. Will help him self-reflect.
Maybe. I thought that my critique was
fair, but no. All it did was make him
get all upset because apparently I
didn't see him as this victim of people
trying to silence the story. Here's the
thing. Even if Bunk does make a point
that I do agree with, like an age gap
relationship where one of the parties
would
>> ASMR POV the psychopath who kidnapped
you and opened the trunk just counting
how many seconds you have left.
>> Oh my god, that's actually hilarious.
>> Was underage when they first met is
really weird and uncomfortable. I can't
disagree with that. The logistics of
that relationship will always be up for
>> burn has raided me. Hello burners world
burners.
>> Hello burners.
>> Burn heads in chat.
>> Thank you. Thank you for being on your
burner accounts. Thank you. Burn the
world.
>> Question and speculation inherently
because of how Gab and Clare met. But
even if Bonk makes a good point, he's so
defensive and will fight tooth and nail
with everyone. He doesn't pick his
battles wisely. He just wants to fight
just to fight. So Bonk, let's fight.
Here is my case against you.
>> In my Black Griffin video, we talked
about the past post history of Brody
Phantom where it seems that the account
was once used as a roleplay account for
the character.
>> Oh no.
So, if I remember correctly, this
specific one is not NSFW, but it's just
a compromising position.
So, it's very bizarre. I will say that
>> from Michael Bon himself confirms this.
But the thing is, Trall is speculated to
be an underage character, though this
isn't directly stated on the show. What
Bon would do is roleplay being in a
relationship with a kid.
>> Yes. Yes. And remember, Bonk role played
being with a person who was like 19 that
regressed to nine.
>> Mada sends his regards.
>> Thank you, Ma. Thank you, somebody.
>> Somebody you you have been saved by
Superman.
>> Yeah.
>> Character that is stated to be 19 years
old who intentionally dees his character
with magic or something to date screw
ball. Bon justifies their online
roleplay of this weird relationship by
saying that age is just a number. Hence
the full context of what that tweet
Look, I was just avoiding getting banned
on YouTube over
>> You did the right thing.
>> Lazy, I had we I will not say I we had
to edit
Woot Masters images,
so it would be illegal in other
countries. Things that were obviously
never used in the video.
I want to blow my brains out as a joke.
YouTube, it's not real.
Minecraft in GTA 5 RP.
>> It was the worst things I have ever seen
on the internet. Like legitimately the
worst things I've ever seen on the
internet was about. This isn't the only
odd thing in Bonk's back catalog as he
has commissioned not safe for word
artwork of his persona with Noel, an
underage delta room character. Bonk
essentially uses the justification of
their drawings. There's not a crime
actually.
>> Okay. Is something someone that's why I
defend Woot Master. He isn't hurting
Smolder. Smolder is a [\h__\h] cartoon
dragon. the cartoon dragon that he
thinks is he's [\h__\h] eight.
>> KZ became a member. Kas celebrates six
months of [\h__\h] 19 to nine. Doodle tones
that you
>> Jesus Christ, Ky, it's been six months,
dude. Thank you.
>> It's been a good strong six, seven
months. Thank you all for being here,
>> dude. That's like crazy cuz like holy
[\h__\h]
>> It doesn't feel that long.
>> It doesn't feel that long. It equally
feels like a lifetime, right?
>> Yeah, the dragon does. Yeah, and the
dragon is not old. Okay, so
>> I hate that so much, momena.
>> Let me see if I have it. Uh,
>> don't pull it up. What do you mean?
>> No, no, no, stupid. Not you. Not you.
>> No, not me. What are you talking about?
>> Uh, I'm trying to find something
specific. Uh, I'm trying to find
something very, very spec
for it. I need to see if I could find
the image specifically that I want. Uh,
>> all right. Well, let's see what card is
posting.
>> Hold up. Not right now. Not right now. I
know. I have to actually I have to look
this up. Give me a second.
>> Oh my god.
>> This is important, actually. Uh, Brony.
There we go.
Let me see if I can find the specific
image I'm looking for
people to understand what I'm talking
about because I have to pull it up in a
way that won't get me banned off the
platform. By the way,
there's more. There's actual NSFW art of
this character that I I'm not willing to
show,
but for those who are curious,
and I'm sure you are,
this is art that was created.
This right here is art that was created.
Now, this is on an NSFW account. I want
to make this very clear. This is on an
NFSFW account. Look at this.
Canonical age 8 with a onewritten in it.
He fully knows every porn draw.
Wootmaster fully knows every porn
drawing he does of this of this
character
is underageed
because he's acknowledging that the
character is lying about their age.
Do I need to show anything more?
Do I need to? Buck is defending
Lollcon, Fullcon, and borderline just
CSAM materials.
I'm not going to show you guys, but like
this is my issue. This is when he
defends Wootmaster. Remember I pulled up
the whole post where he's defending
Wootmaster? Well, at least he broke up
with his uh pedophile girl. Oh, god damn
it. Again. Again. I keep doing this.
Broke up with his pedophile girlfriend.
Know that his friend is still drawing
[\h__\h] like that still.
Like that's my whole thing. Like
that's my issue.
Sorry, Greg. I knocked out my headphones
so I can't hear you if you're speaking.
>> I'm not.
>> Speak. It's fine. Okay. There we go. I
keep hitting it.
That's what I keep saying is like he
lies so [\h__\h] much about this.
Literally just [\h__\h] lies and it's
infuriating to me
>> happening because they're fictional
characters and you can't victimize a
cartoon character. Yes, I I [\h__\h] you
not. The bastard is using because
they're fictional characters and you
can't victimize a cartoon.
>> Zeb is left leaning,
but last I heard she was a pedophile.
She's disgusting. I'm not dismissing or
hiding that because of her political
leaning. H interesting
>> character. Yes, I I [\h__\h] you not. The
bastard is using the ear doobie. They're
just cartoons defense.
>> They're just cartoons.
>> What to die? Bonk was really mad that I
would bring this up in my video because
apparently these were things that
happened when she was a minor. He didn't
know any better. He doesn't stand by it
anymore as an adult. And sure, like we
just spoke about the
>> I I beg to differ. I beg to differ. The
Noel character, he says that. Oh, but I
would never hurt real children. And he's
still friends with somebody who created
pedophilic art.
And yet he condemns Gabe for supposedly
liking lolli art. And when we looked at
it, it wasn't loi art.
The online brony fandom normalized a lot
of stuff that was not okay. Nazism,
shipping adults with minors, princess
molestia. So, a young mind engaging in
the online brony sphere. I can
understand this being embarrassing in
retrospect. Especially if a lot of this
is being normalized and seen as okay
because the fandom is so anti-drama and
pro forgiveness no matter what. It just
lets this stuff slide only for Bonk to
grow up and look back on that and
realize that it wasn't okay. That has to
be a painful deconstruction. I would
know. I had to do the same [\h__\h] coming
out of the online anime community. You
know, it turns out a bunch of grown men
advocating for lollycon is not [\h__\h]
normal. Actually,
>> it's [\h__\h] deranged.
>> We should We should uh we should talk to
Lazy someday about anime. Not lollycon,
but anime. Yes, we could talk the lazy
about regular wholesome anime.
>> Oh, don't say it like that. But I I just
mean anime
>> aren't letting this [\h__\h] go is because
it's very clear that this isn't
something Bonk grew out of the [\h__\h] in
his teens. I can set aside if he was
actually ashamed of it and holds
different values now. But it's obvious
that he doesn't. This didn't stay in his
teenage years. It's something that he
has defended well into his adulthood.
Let me ask
>> Yeah.
>> Question. Say you're a survivor of
grooming by an adult and you go to some
online activist or investigator. Would
you, as a survivor looking for support,
go to a supposed activist who engages
with content depicting minor characters
sexually? No. You absolutely would not.
>> And no, I'm not going to show it to you,
but Bootmaster did at one point
seemingly either draw or retweet
pornographic images of Sweetie Bell.
>> Let me out.
>> He did. I've seen it. I hate it.
>> Ask you another question. Say you're a
survivor of rape and you do the same
thing. You go online for support. Uh,
would you go to a guy who has a rape
fetish to tell your story?
>> No, I don't think you would.
>> You'll notice Fandon's OC is a hyena
with a glowing eye. But this isn't just
an aesthetic choice. Somebody handed me
the character sheet for Bunk. I want to
make something very very clear um
about Helena Hyena and about the rape
fetish because Bonk seems to
misunderstand
what the criticism is.
The criticism levied at Bonk is not uh
in relation to CNC which would be
consensual non-consent and things like
that.
What the criticism is is that Bonk's
character has a magical eye that would
force anyone to do anything
without their consent.
That is what it is. It is bypassing
consent. when we talk about and because
we've had the discussion before of of
like the erotic books and things like
that and CNC and other like BDSM
fetishes.
This is not BDSM.
This is legitimately
a rape eye. The eye does tells people to
do things completely under
>> the I the OC's power without any
consideration for consent.
The um the Jessica Jones show has that
with the purple man and they call it
rape. They call it what it is.
>> Yeah, it's rape.
>> The eye of rape. Yeah, it's the it's
literally it's the purple man. It is
funny that it's like a purplish pink
eye, but like
this is what I'm saying is like he
doesn't understand the criticism is that
the character's special power
bypasses and revokes consent
because he doesn't care.
He doesn't care about the criticism
because oh well, my character wouldn't
do this.
No, stupid. That's not the point. The
point is that the character is built on
the fact of that
you chose that
even Sauron didn't have the special rape
eye.
>> And I would say,
>> oh my god, that's [\h__\h] disgusting. I
love
>> I would say
>> I would say it's being a bit too
generous to say that he's not seeing the
criticism. He's he's active.
>> He's actively ignoring it. Yes. Yeah.
>> Well, that's what I mean by see it. Like
he's actively ignoring the the criticism
wholeheartedly.
>> The eye of Sa Ron is insane.
>> Oh my god.
>> Insane. Chat. But that's what I'm
saying. Like he's actively ignoring the
criticism
because he doesn't get it or let me get
I think he gets it. I just don't think
he cares.
>> I think he gets it. I don't think he
cares because it's not because they're
not real children
>> or [\h__\h] That's a disgusting thing to
say.
>> Yeah, it's just it's just incredibly
incredibly incredibly frustrating.
>> This character and it turns out Bon has
something of a rape fetish.
>> I fell for you since I first saw you,
but you don't know I exist. I've thought
about introducing myself, seeing if
you'd fall for me normally, but the risk
of failure is too painful, and I'm
growing more and more impatient.
>> Is the eye for sex or general mind
control?
>> It could be both.
>> Both. But gen but but what do you think
he's using it for?
>> He literally has uh he literally has a
comic of him using it for sex.
>> Have the power to change that with just
one look. You're mine. The rest of this
comic is lesbian porn with Jews.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> I'm not showing you that because I don't
hate you. Maybe.
>> Yes. Yes. Hey Vince, does that answer
your question?
>> No. No. You Vince, you're fine. But does
that answer your question immediately?
Oh, yes. It's full circle for Judy Hops.
For those who don't know, I've done a uh
the the Zootopia reading with voice
acting included.
>> Maybe it's a stretch. Maybe it's
actually like a hypnosis fetish or
something. But I find it odd that
specifically in their character
description, Bon specifies that his
blowing eye thing in his character is
specifically from
>> We need 100 likes on the stream.
>> See how that's consensual. One bl into
the iris causes any command from Helena
to be obeyed. One of the biggest red
flags about Bon is their friendship and
frequent defense of root master. For
those who are unaware, Woot Master is a
My Little Pony artist who likes to draw.
>> Yeah, let's go talk about Woot Master.
>> Not safe for work pony and furry
characters. However, many of his
subjects of interest are usually not
within the age range where that would be
appropriate. For example, Smolder from
My Little Pony and Spike are usually
depicted as younger characters. Yet,
Bootmaster has drawn both. And
>> Oh, no.
>> That's the bad one. That's the real bad
one.
>> Oh, it's the one I didn't show.
[Music]
Why did you I edited this so much more.
I edited this so lazy. I edited this. We
edited this like so much. You have no
[\h__\h] idea. No.
I forgot
>> of these younger characters. Now in My
Little Pony characters,
>> I showed that
>> the feed please.
I've showed that one once on stream.
But again, if you see it in the corner,
it's a fake ID. It says 13 to 18. Yeah,
Yen. That would be illegal in your
country, by the way.
Illegal. Actually illegal.
>> Ages aren't really like clarified ever
in the show. So, you could argue with
the ambiguity. Woo could just fain
ignorance. However, his secondary fetish
account called no razor has retweets of
trans or interex pornography of
characters like Ryoko Matoy, who is a
17-year-old girl, and Tommoi Karoki, who
is 15. And in both of those cases, those
characters ages are not ambiguous.
>> Also, I would argue what Lazy misses in
that one. I should maybe I should start
with the feet. Uh, I don't think you had
to have gone that far, Lazy, because in
the bottom right hand corner, it's a
fake ID that says 13 and in pencil says
18. It pencils over the three to make an
eight.
Woot Master is acknowledging that this
character is a minor because the fetish
is a minor. That's the fetishes.
That that is very well known. It is
specified in these animes. That's how
old they are. But I guess that wasn't
bad enough. Taken from Becket's video,
proof of a wolf master retweeting fetish
artwork of Sweetie Bell. Also,
retweeting pornographic artwork
depicting non-anthropomorphized horses.
Yeah, I also hated seeing that.
>> Just regular ass horses. But believe it
or not, it gets even worse than that.
Wootmaster was in a relationship with
someone called potluck or Ze demon. Zeb
Demon was someone who posted the youth
attraction pride flag on their profile
and then got personally banned by Elon
Musk. Now granted, Bonk does call Zeve a
pedophile, but will seemingly ride or
die on defending Bootmaster. I could
show
>> yes, which is crazy.
>> Every single tweet where he is outwardly
defending Bootmaster, but I think it's
just best to hear it from Bon himself.
Woo master has had a history kind of
with
>> lazy. You're fine. It I would have my
only thing is I would have just drawn
attention to the fake ID and be like
that's enough proof. That's literally
enough proof.
Yes, if you're a member, put explode in
the chat. And if you're not a member,
consider becoming a member today.
Consider tipping. Uh you get really
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the chat. Thank you.
>> You know, his artwork can kind of be
seen as controversial for reasons being
that like a lot of it involves like
characters canotically underage or
something like that.
>> And if you don't have a membership,
hopefully one day someone will gift you
one.
>> Just kind of explain to me your feelings
on like Whoop Master as a like a content
creator because they've been in
controversy before for this specific
thing. I I just was curious about like
why you would choose to defend that
whilst also trying to like expose
somebody else for grooming. It it seems
like a contradiction to be like I'm okay
with uh drawings of underage characters
in certain situations, but I'm
absolutely going to go die on the hill
to say that somebody groomed somebody
kind of thing.
>> I think that's a very I'm not trying to
like be hostile or defensive.
>> I just think that's very shorted. No,
no. I I just think it's entirely
different. Like if you think one is
>> it's not stupid. You stupid [\h__\h] It's
not. You stupid [\h__\h] It's not.
I hate you. I like listen again.
I'll make it very real. I don't want
Ronnie Fanone to harm himself. I don't
want Bon Bonk um to to take his own
life. I want to make that very very
clear.
But you are so absolutely ignorant. you
were so willfully lying and incorrect
that I can only assume it's malicious
because it sound that sounds like an uh
um that really sounds like a uh answer a
pedophile would give. I'm not saying
Bonk is a pedophile, but I'm just saying
is that that sounds like an answer a
pedophile would give. Greg, am I
incorrect?
>> I don't know. I don't know pedophiles.
>> That's fair. But we've covered enough.
Sadly,
>> I don't I don't feel like I know them
even if we've covered them.
>> Just sounds like something a pedophile
would say.
>> It's
it's making excuses for for that type of
behavior and behavior that
>> that Bonk actively does do. You know
what I mean? So, it's like
>> ve very pit. It's it's like
>> Yeah.
>> I don't know. I
>> I don't know. I don't
>> I don't like the subject. I don't even
like talking about the subject because I
don't want to be I don't want to have a
conversation with somebody on the other
side of it. You know what I mean?
>> Yeah. I had I was the one that talked to
Dan's burst. You are correct.
>> Is bad or or both are bad. That's fine.
I'm not I'm not even trying to debate
that. I'm just trying to say that there
are leagues different. Um and if it
seems very short-sighted to say that
it's the same thing and contradictory.
Um
>> it's contradictory. It's contradictory.
You stupid [\h__\h] Because there are
genuine people that exist that are being
harmed and multiple of them in the
Griffin situation.
>> I'm harmed by viewing that art. I was
harmed. I was harmed viewing that art.
I'm a victim of the art.
>> But but here he is circling back to
Black Griffin.
>> Yeah. Always. He's always been a black
Griffin.
>> And And I think that Woot um fights for
a lot of people that need help. I think
>> Yes, he fights for a lot of people that
need help. Definitely.
>> He is very genuine in all that. Have you
he did?
>> Sure.
>> He's very genuine when he creates the
fulcon. Woot master is very genuine when
he creates underaged art.
>> [\h__\h] you, Kickan.
>> Pick him up.
>> Good morning. You can be a pony and
clipop forever.
>> Kickan, thank you for the two.
>> Good morning. You can be saved by
Superman.
>> I hate you.
>> Did anything that Griffin did? I would
not.
>> What is he arguing? I'm lost. So he's
arguing that Wootmaster despite making
NF making what is would be considered in
some areas of the world illegal art
because it depicts children even though
they are anthropomorphized
um uh uh characters children in sexual
positions as well as just straight up
sex.
He is saying, "But Wootmaster fights for
the for minorities and for the
victimized, so he has to be a good guy."
Make that make sense, stupid. Make it
make sense. Can you not? Cuz it doesn't
sound like you are.
>> Not be so uh willing to defend him. In
fact, I would probably just not talk to
him ever again. And I don't really talk
to him all that much to begin with. But
he hasn't done anything to harm anyone
as far as I'm aware. I don't really I
don't want to. If you didn't talk to him
so much, why do you defend him so hard?
>> Yeah.
>> Why would you just throw him under the
bus? Yeah. On principle or because you
talk
>> then does that mean you're agreeing with
his principle? I don't know. It's it's
weird.
>> Very weird. Right. Argue this point
because I don't think it matters to the
grand scheme of everything. And I know
people don't like when I argue this and
they they act like I'm ruining
everything because I'm talking about it.
But I'm only talking about it because
people bring it up. But I don't feel
like artwork of fictional characters,
regardless of
>> I think you're ruining everything. I
think you've ruined everything,
>> what age or anything that they are.
>> You ruined everything.
>> Has any effect on real people unless
it's a drawing of a real child and then
then that crosses the line greatly for
me. Um I
>> So weren't
>> these characters voiced by children?
Bonk.
>> Yeah. Weren't some of these characters
voiced by kids?
What if it's full con of a uh character
that was voiced by a child
in the case of Sweetie Bell?
In the case of Claire's character.
H really interesting.
Really interesting. Bonk.
Very interesting. Seems like some of the
brony the Brony fandom stuff still
really hasn't left.
Shove it away.
Very interesting.
If I had any thought that Wootmaster
wanted to get with actual children, I
would not be talking about Woot Master
in any good sense at least. Um, but I
don't think that he has that. I don't
believe that. Um, he's given me no
reason to believe that. And I know
people I keep saying the same I know
people this, I know people that. I
understand that there is a lot of things
that would require explaining my stance
on and explaining how what the
differences are and once I go into that
the conversation is too uncomfortable
for people and I think that they don't
listen to what I'm saying and they just
go he defended that thing.
>> His argument is that it's just drawings
but it's still like a facilitation of
these of this behavior.
>> Yeah.
>> Simple. It's hard to find an artist that
likes Bonk's kink. Bonk can't let them
be cancelled. Just a theory though.
>> Damn.
>> Wow. Uh Kay Kayz,
>> you have been saved by Superman.
>> You have been saved.
>> So uh therefore he she shouldn't be
talking about anything ever. Um but I I
don't think he has harmed anyone and
that's the difference for me. I I I
don't think it matters.
>> Well, I think we had a conversation,
right, about like the whole Nazis in the
broad fandom, how normalizing and like
how normalizing certain things can also
equally be harmful, right? If you're
like being like, "No, this is normal.
That's equally as bad." Or saying like,
"No, that's not as big of a deal. That's
equally as bad." Could you not concede
that maybe, you know, drawing characters
like that normalizes the idea that
people of that age can be
>> Yes. Wait, wait, wait for Wait for it
cuz Lazy brings up a very good point. I
didn't hear this part of it. I didn't I
actually never got to the bonk part of
this video. I don't have to pull up
Lazy's thing then.
>> Put in sexual situation than it can be
seen as fine. Like that's
>> I think that's a more fair of an
argument that most people give. I I I
agree that there is
>> What do you mean fair of an argument?
That is the argument you
>> That's what we're saying.
>> That is the argument.
>> That's the argument Claire brings up,
too. When Claire says she's being
victimized by having to see NSFW art of
a character she played as a child and
your response is it's not real.
>> Get over it essentially.
>> Yeah. How much the call you're going to
go over half? Uh Captain C probably none
of the call. Uh Becket went over the
call so I recommend going over and
watching his video uh his stream on it.
Um, I don't feel like it's I I think the
Bon interview is very very good uh by
Lazy and he just speaks out of his ass,
contradicts himself and makes himself
seem like a fool. Um, but like we don't
have time for it. It's I'm not doing a 9
hour stream.
>> You are making a fair argument.
>> Hold on. Hold on. Lazy's making a fair
argument. That's the argument we're
making. It's the argument everybody's
making.
>> Yes. What?
>> So why no? Why bad?
>> I think that's a lot more fair of an
argument than most people give. I I I
agree that there is you are making a
fair argument there. Um
>> cuz that's my main argument when it
comes to it. Really? That's what I say
to her.
>> It's everybody's argument.
>> Yes.
>> It's just like
>> what call? Uh so Becca went over Lazy
published a the whole this interview.
Lazy published the whole thing.
>> It's on her YouTube channel also. Becket
reacts to it. What number is Card at
now? 4 25 95 2596 257 258 259 2600
261 262
>> 2602
he changed his hair. He's doing this for
multiple days.
>> Yes.
>> Like I respect card so much for this.
It's not even funny.
>> Sure.
>> Card, you guys should watch this by Card
alone. Put it on in the background. Give
Card all your support. may not be real,
but drawing them sexualized, knowing the
age that they are in the show could
normalize the idea for real, like real
kids that watch the show and love the
show, seeing them like that be like,
"Oh, that could be normalized for me,
too." Like, that's admiring. It's
normal. I don't think should be.
>> I I I believe that it should not be in a
place where like people people
uncomfortable with it and people who are
minors can't see. It should not be
accessible.
>> It shouldn't exist. What are you talking
about?
It shouldn't exist at all.
What do What do you mean it shouldn't
exist?
It shouldn't be, "Oh, well, minors can
have access to it." It should not exist
at all.
Bar none
because Claire is now an adult. If Clare
had access to it and it's like, "Hey, I
feel uncomfortable seeing a character
that I drew, I mean, that I played as a
child in sexual positions. She's an
adult now. Why does she not have a right
to be uncomfortable by this? Why does
she not have a right to say, "Well, this
is this is terrible. This shouldn't
exist." Of all people, Claire is the one
that should express that and should have
a complete right to that.
What if the adult voice actor who played
I think it was an adult that played
Smolder sees that and it's like, "I
don't like this existing. This really
shouldn't exist.
She that voice actor is an adult. They
should take it down.
It can't just be posted willy-nilly.
Like I think that that is wrong. Um I
like I said I think that dissecting it a
lot of people will instantly feel
>> uh no lady. I will not be reacting to
that call. Uh I think Becca did no
reason to redo that. I think Becca did
enough on it. Personally speaking, uh
yeah, I don't think I would react to it.
So, he doesn't think minor should be
exposed to that content, but he thinks
it's okay for minors to be within the
content because they're fake and not
real.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
Also, lady, to answer your question, I
also wouldn't be able to really give a
genuine uh reaction because I've heard I
was in the chat when I heard that.
uncomfortable because the topic of
>> I'm trying to give a genuine reaction to
some of these things if I'm being
honest.
>> Being sexual can make a lot of people
uncomfortable. Um, so I I think a lot of
people will not want to hear this next
part, but I think that there is a lot of
there's a lot of gray there's a lot of
differences and variables in all this. I
don't think it's necessarily that um
like Smolder the Dragon.
>> Oh, just to to highlight it because
we're going to talk about Smolder the
Dragon. Just to answer the question, uh,
so I listened to the call with the Brit
stuff. I think Lia is an idiot for never
opening that. I think Li I want to make
this very clear before I begin. I think
Lia is an idiot for never opening it. Uh
because we've discussed it a little bit.
Uh we've discussed it the call like
parts of the call cuz somebody asked me
about it last stream because Beckett was
on last stream. I did actually talk
about the call. Um
Lio's an idiot for never opening that.
It actually really [\h__\h] frustrates
me. I'm tired of hearing the excuse that
he's too much of a boomer to open
things. However,
there are parts from Brit's
uh um Brit's uh uh DM dump that was
missing that does paint Brit in not so
great of a light and also would have in
my opinion connected Lily to Homestuck a
lot faster,
which is like my uh uh what is it? Is it
No, Stockholm, not Homestuck, excuse me.
Stockholm a lot faster because she
outright says she's the one drawing it
and like links to her account about it
coming out.
I but I still feel bad for Britt. I'll
be very real. I know it doesn't paint
her in the best light. I don't think Lio
is I personally don't think Lio is
sweeping regarding Lily. That call
doesn't give me enough to believe that
Lio is sweeping for Lily. Um, what I
what I can say, however, is I really uh
like it really does annoy me and I've
told Lio this. I no longer accept the
excuse that he is a boomer and cannot
access technology. If I hear that excuse
from him again, I'm going to just ream
into him about it.
We are at the point where he has made
content for the internet for such a long
period of time that him not being able
to access certain things is no longer an
excuse. However, and I have to say this,
that alone would not have been enough to
call
would not that alone would not have been
enough to call Lilia a groomer,
unfortunately.
Um, so I'm sorry for spreading that he
was sweeping. It's it's fine. Um, it's
fine. That's not I want to address this
in the best way I can because I think
it's I think it's a fair question. Um,
it's more the fact that like I'm very
I think the excuse
or the explanation that Lio Convoy is an
old man can't open things needs to stop.
And I'll be very honest,
I don't want to hear it anymore.
That's just how I feel. Not Homestuck. I
know. I know. Stockholm. My brain was
being stupid
>> again from My Little Pony when
>> Also, Slug, go to go to sleep. You have
a new job in the morning.
>> Master uh looks at art of them or
whatever. I don't think it's necessarily
the fact that they are um like a minor
character that is why he wants to see
art of that. I think there's a lot of
different variables where and it's
uncomfortable for me to talk about too.
I don't like defending. I I don't I
don't want a side in the war. I just
don't think he's a bad person. I don't
think he
>> You are taking a side.
>> Don't defend him.
>> Yeah,
burn him then. Burn him.
>> He's hurt anyone. Um but I think that
but to explain why I think it is
different um from uh Sorry, what was
your question? Oh, sorry.
>> I I'm asking if you can see to the fact
that like Woot Master's artwork and the
past artwork he's made that has been
controversial normalizes certain things
that are harmful and therefore shouldn't
be defended.
>> Yeah. So, I I would compare that to like
people that make like gore art. Like you
would you make the argument that that is
normalizing murder and therefore people
are going to be more likely to murder. I
I I think that is while people don't
want to see it that way. It is kind of
one for one like people think it's
different but that perception is just
that
>> gore. No no no no no no no no. Let's
have a discussion real quick. Card you
look great with your hair back. Let's
have this discussion real quick. And
this is what Bronnie Fandode is trying
to pull the wool over everybody's eyes.
Sexual gratification
runs on a different pathway in your
brain in comparison
to violence in video games and things
like that and depictions of gore. Now,
if the gore is a fetish, now that's a
different story. But the the pathway
that your brain takes for uh for the
dopamineergic pathway in relation and
the excitation in relation to sexual um
gratification, arousal and all those
things is different than ooh gore, ooh
violence. It is different.
And the fact that Bonk thinks that it's
one and the same because this is his
argument is incredibly incorrect and
clarrettably disingenuous
and just sounds like he's excusing
pedophilic art.
I'm just going to be honest. It sounds
like Bonk is making an excuse for
pedophilic art. And that's very telling
given
what he asked for regarding that Delta
Rune character.
>> That one is normal to draw and one
isn't. Um I I think
>> Yeah. What about Looney Tunes? They're
violent. That doesn't like that didn't
create violent people.
Exactly. Like this is this is not it's
not the same pathway. Just not.
>> It does normalize it in a way. Maybe
that is bad, but I don't know enough to
determine that that is happening. I just
think that there are certain venues
where if you want to do that, go for it.
I don't As long as it's not hurting
anyone, if it's not like if it's not of
a real person who is not consenting to
that or is a child and therefore can't
consent to that, I I don't
>> Bossoms. Thank you.
>> And I I I I will always love you, so
gay.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you, Bossoms.
>> Really care if a cartoon dragon is being
harmed because they aren't being harmed
because they're not real. Um,
>> this is such a self-report.
I'm sorry. This is an incredible
self-report. You can't tell me
otherwise. I'm sorry. This is an
incredible self-report.
I hate this, but the art of the people
isn't real.
I hate using this example all the time,
but here's a perfect example.
Does anyone know about the mangaka for
Roni Kenshin who had so much CP and Cam
materials on his computer that they
thought that he was the distributor for
the greater Tokyo district,
not the city, the district.
He also had art that he both created and
other people created.
He was living out his fantasies through
his own art.
Are you insane?
And I've said this, I met his wife
actually, which is a [\h__\h] crazy fun
fact. Uh cuz his wife uh went he
couldn't fly that time. So I met his
wife at a convention because they did an
exhibit for his his art.
You're an idiot, Bonk. You just created
a defense for CESAM materials. I hope
you're happy with yourself. I hope
you're [\h__\h] happy.
>> So, but in the sense of it being
normalized, I guess I don't know for
certain that it is helping um actual
predators get away with anything. I
think that like things like Grand Theft
Auto, I think that there are violent
people that really like violent games,
but I don't think the violent games made
them violent people, you know?
>> I suppose so, but I think it's more so
how that artwork is being utilized,
right?
>> Kick in. I'm not even going to read
that. But that's the that's like
literally the whole argument. That's
literally the whole argument.
>> Yeah, that's his argument.
>> That's the argument.
>> Or that's the the nth degree of that
argument.
>> Yes, that is the nth degree of this
argument that people will make a budge
on because he's the one saying it.
>> And then it's like it's it's the thing
where it's like you make AI versions of
it that are almost indistinguishable
from real life. Then then what do you
have? Yeah,
>> that's that's the that's the full extent
of that argument.
>> Like listen, people can like I think
this is a really good example of it.
People can think like uh like streamers
like Cutie Cinderella and like uh
Pokemon were were uh
uh were overreacting. I personally don't
think they were. Personally, I don't
think they were overreacting when uh
people were making AI porn of them,
sticking their faces and doing body maps
and trying to make AI porn of them. I
think that that's
>> it it wasn't even like just a random
person. It was like their friend
>> too. That's the other part about that
story.
>> Yes, that was the other part. But it was
also that all of it existed and he got
and he accessed it specifically.
>> Um
>> and at work
>> and at work for for an AI video.
>> Yeah,
>> cuz he was trying to do an AI video and
like kept jumping into it more and more
and more. Um yeah, dude m went to jail
about AICP. Like this is the whole
thing. Like this is what's disgusting
about this.
>> Like
>> the AI has to pull from somewhere is
absolutely correct.
>> Exactly. Moon bunnies. Exactly.
>> When people use Grand Theft Auto, they
don't use that as like a simulation to
things that they're going to, you know,
do bad things in the future.
>> I agree. I don't think that Woot is
going to do the things either. I I don't
I think it's the same in that regard,
too.
>> Sure, but like why even introduce a
sexual element to minor characters at
all? Like that doesn't seem very
necessary. you sexualize characters that
are adults and that's like you know
they're in the territory of that to do
so but most people are just like these
are they essentially lolly lolly
characters right like it's like do not
lude the lolly that's like a big thing
in most fandoms it's like don't [\h__\h]
do that [\h__\h] like
>> I think it's the same I think it's a
slippery slope argument and I
>> oh [\h__\h] off you stupid idiot no you just
like lolly this is just a pedophile
argument this is literally a pro
pedophile argument like what is
happening
>> this is lit
this is a pro pedophile argument this is
absolutely disgusting
Sorry, Greg. I didn't mean to cut you
off.
>> No, that's If you didn't, I was going to
say something I would regret.
>> No, say it.
>> I think you need to I need I think you
need to unpause.
>> Hey, Card. What's up, buddy?
>> What number are we on?
>> 46 31 47 31 48 31 49 315 51 3152
31 53
>> You go, buddy. I'm really proud of you,
Card. Thanks for Thanks for helping us,
Card.
>> I kind of hate that argument. I've got
to be honest. like like with like like
with what I was saying was saying with
Grand Theft Auto
>> who is the person agreeing with him in
chat. Uh Lazy's here. Yeah, she's in and
out.
>> Same thing can also be applied where
people or a lot of like people were
upset with Grand Theft Auto for
depicting violence.
>> Shut the [\h__\h] up. It's not the same.
Shut the [\h__\h] up. It's not the same.
>> Are you doing the the [\h__\h] what's his
name argument? Gosh, what's his name?
The Jack Brown or whatever.
>> Yeah.
>> What's his name?
His name. [\h__\h] I haven't had to think
about him in like 15 years.
>> This is so stupid.
I hate that argument. I hate you. So,
lol. Thank you, honey.
Honestly, I'm gonna
with Lazy's permission, I'm going to I'm
probably Vosch I think made the same
argument. He did Lazy.
This is the same argument for his lolly
horse fetish thing. Vos has made this
same argument because sometimes people
are crazy.
Thank you, Liz.
>> Jack Thompson. Thank you. Thank you.
>> And allowing you to play as it. And they
were saying that this was going to lead
to more violence. Um, and you can make
the same arguments for that where, okay,
well, why would you uh need to do that
when you could have a game where you are
nice to everyone? Why?
>> Hey, Lazy, I have a a small request.
>> And this is with your permission. Uh,
you could say no.
Do you mind,
depending on how much Twitter will let
me do it, do you mind if I take out a
section of this interview and post it
online,
I will I'll ask one of my editors to
take a quick snippet out of it.
If you're not comfortable with it, it's
okay and post it on Twitter.
What is Lazy's PFP art?
>> It's like a elf lady with a
>> uh It's a teling. Thank you.
>> Is that okay?
>> Yeah. Uh Lacy said you and her are
telings.
>> I know, but this art just looks like
elf.
>> Oh, this is Oh, no. This is um Oh, uh
here it's pin head.
>> Oh, okay. Oh, in or in the uh
>> in the call it's it's Hellraiser. Yes.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I see it now. Okay.
>> How does it have to be an option? Um, I
I don't think
>> it's very based.
>> It is necessarily a desire to do these
things in real life. I don't think it
has to translate to that. And I think
that people who do have those
inclinations were going to also
gravitate to doing this out of real life
anyway. I don't think Shut the [\h__\h] up.
Jesus Christ, I hate you.
>> I don't think I I honestly I think there
might be something to it being so common
and accepted that it becomes so
widespread that people get away with
more. I I think that could be a
possibility and it could that could lead
to actual harm like with you were
comparing with the Nazi situation. I can
see that. I just can't confirm that that
is happening. So, I don't want And I
also feel pretty safe saying that Woot
Master isn't a predator. So, I don't
want to
>> I hate you. I hate you so much.
>> Why even defend him?
>> Why defend him? If you can't prove that
it is or isn't, why defend him,
bro? This makes me so upset.
Like, this makes me so upset. And like
again, like I I guess this just comes
from my whole thing too cuz I had to
like confront the like obvious pedophile
thing. Um this this stuff just makes me
upset because it's like Bonk is is just
saying the quiet part out loud that he
likes this art and doesn't want it to go
away
because if he criticizes
Wootmaster, he criticizes himself.
>> That's what it is.
>> And he can never criticize himself.
>> Nope. Can never. That's what this is. He
just doesn't want to criticize himself.
>> We're literally seeing like a person who
can take crit decent criticism and and
prove
>> Yeah.
>> talking to somebody who cannot take any
criticism whatsoever.
>> Yeah.
>> To condemn him for that. And when he has
fought for people, uh I don't want to
dismiss that just because people are
uncomfortable with some of the things he
does separate to that.
>> One last question and I'll be like super
specific. Say that you did have an
inappropriate conversation with an
adult. Say you and this adult are in the
same community. Bronies, let's just say
you're bronies. So, you're both bronies
and let's just say that you want to warn
the wider scope of the community. Would
you go to a fellow brony who's really
into full con?
>> No.
>> No, I don't think so.
>> I mentioned this in the Black Griffin
video that I made that Bunk has made an
accusation about Gabe that was just
completely wrong. Let's go over that in
detail. Bonk claims that Gabe provided
vocals for a video that sings about
having sex with a young pony character.
>> No, he hasn't. It doesn't sound like
Gabe at all. I know what Gabe sounds
like singing. It's not him. led many to
believe that Gabe was singing a song
about wanting to have sex with Sweetie
Bell, hence grooming. The thumbnail of
this video depicts pornography of the
Judy Mark Crusaders that are explicit.
>> But but that isn't that hypocritical of
of Bonk.
>> Yeah,
>> because he would be
>> because he says everybody else is lying
about him.
>> No, no, no. But he would if that if this
were true
>> Mhm.
>> if there was art fullon art, wouldn't he
be okay with it?
>> Isn't that right? Weird.
weird, which is all standard since all
those words.
>> Mhm.
>> To be fools or Phillies, aka Young
Ponies. The truth of this video is that
it's a re-upload. The original was found
with Sweetie Belt as the thumbnail. But
clearly, this shows that the original
vocalist was not black. Now, Bonk did
retract this claim. But I want to ask
you the question. This video that Bonk
is referencing is completely unknown to
most people. It has 4,000 views in the 8
years it's been on the platform, and
it's the only video on this channel. So,
my question is, how did Bunk find this
video?
>> I didn't think about that. How did Bonk
find the video? Did he listen to it all
the time?
Or was it a joke within the brony fandom
the brony fandom that people knew about
that and just wanted to attribute it to
to Gabe and thought people could do it?
Now, I will say I don't know if it's
>> such a good get.
>> I don't know if it's a self-report
that he liked it and listened to it. I
am a little bit more inclined to agree
or to believe they know about this video
within the community.
>> Yeah, that's
>> he thought he could pull the wool over
people's eyes.
>> How did he know where to look for it?
Granted, he couldn't find the original
one either. That one is 10 years old and
only has like 5,000 views. It is
incredibly obscure. But regardless, I
find it interesting that he was able to
find the reup.
>> Uh, actually, yes. And this is the other
thing. Uh Bonk has tried to call out uh
Griffin for liking lollycon. We've
looked at it. I've stared at it. It's
not lollycon art.
>> But but if it is, this doesn't that's
his own standards that he's supposed to
be okay with by his own standards.
>> Exactly. This is crazy. I I I didn't
look as closely into this as you and and
and everybody else did, but
Jesus, dude.
>> I know. Well, to be fair, like I was on
I was boots on the ground doing research
>> and interviews like constantly.
>> Like to
[\h__\h] the British by the way,
you [\h__\h] Like now now Becca has a
terrible sleeping schedule, don't get me
wrong.
>> True.
>> But like I would be up until like 5:00
doing stuff. Beck and I would be in
calls till like 5:00 a.m. my time. And
he's like, "Okay, I'm going to sleep
now." And I'm like, "Oh, okay. I got to
go to work."
>> With porn of minor pony characters as
the thumbnail over the original. I think
the only way he would have been aware
that this video existed and was out
there on YouTube is because of Bonk's
interest in fullcon. Now, I must be very
clear. This is more of an allegation of
Bonk's interest with private likes and
his main Twitter account gone. There's
not really any direct obvious evidence
of this. This is more of an accusation
that is backed up by the fact that he
used to roleplay as Screwball, which the
community has considered to be a minor
character. And also, you know, the
association with Bootmaster once again
retweeting porn of Sweetie Bell. For
those unaware, Fulcon is basically the
brony community's version of Lollcon
media that depicts sexualized minor
characters or a person who is attracted
to lollies or young female characters.
Now, again, a lot of this comes from
boot master himself who openly goons to
whatever character he wants regardless
of age. And defending this by just
saying that no real harm is happening
because these are just characters that
don't exist. And I kid you not, he's
making the argument that getting
offended over drawn porn of a minor is
the equivalent to thinking that video
games cause violence
>> because he's crazy and because he enjoys
the full con.
>> I'm going to play back exactly what I
said about Brony Fan don't fighting with
Claire Corlette. Instead of recognizing
the complexities of the situation, he
constantly speak on behalf of people who
already said that they don't regard
themselves as victims. And instead of
respecting that, he just ignores that
and is very my way or the highway about
it. Either you believe that Clare is a
victim of Gabriel or you defend a
groomer. There's no moral gray you can
take up. It's just what he wants the
narrative to be. And I mean, I
understand why, but getting into literal
argument.
>> Then why is Bon mad at Art where Becket
is hunting him?
>> That's true, sweetie. Because his
character isn't real.
>> It's just hunting.
>> Yeah,
>> it's just a hyena. It's not a It's not
him.
>> He didn't even do the art of it.
>> Yeah.
Fascinating
>> myth with people that you're trying to
convince our grooming victims is just
not how you get people to self-reflect
on their potentially harmful
relationships. Now I want to read you a
DM that Brony Fano don't send to Clare
Colette personally found here in
Beckett's video. No, you're light.
>> I know your brain is huge, sweetie. If
you want to come on, honey, I know you
just got off work, but by all means, I
miss you.
>> You got one of your version of events or
your lawyer didn't say any of this. I
have not harassed you. I have not
slandered anyone. Nothing I've done has
been illegal, immoral, or done in the
pursuit of any kind of revenge or bad
intent. The same cannot be said for what
you've done. You don't like me posting
public information and so you try to
make me into some sort of devil. You
can't even hold a conversation without
needing to take what you've perceived as
a stab at me. Do you think dropping my
IRL information in the DMs is some sort
of gotcha moment? You're [\h__\h]
>> sure. Sure she did that
>> awful. You aren't sure. Even when I
point out how you're being petty and
childish, throwing emojis at me, you
keep doing it. I try to see what you
want to show me. I tell you it's private
and you call me a liar. When I show you
that it is, you threaten to sue me. Now,
I am not someone who likes it when a
significant creator or person of
interest uses lawsuits and threats to
sue someone. This is where I will
disagree. Uh, this is a weird internet
standard thing that does annoy me. Um,
legal action is sometimes necessary in
the case of like for for instance Ethan
Klein. No, that lethal that legal
standard is annoying.
I hate ADHD. But legal representation is
should not be used as a sign of guilt.
That is that is something that the
commentary community
does that I don't agree with.
Did you just kind of compliment Ethan?
No. I think Ethan Klein's lawsuit
against Denims and all of them is very
harmful for the platform. I think he's a
[\h__\h] [\h__\h]
No ain't. I did not.
>> When they aren't a fan of what they're
saying. I also do not condone doxing or
seeking out someone's private
information. This has happened time and
time again. But I think in this case, I
should have at least been a little more
charitable to Clare. Clare in her
messages with Bonk is trying to handle
things at least as cordially as
possible. Just understand what the [\h__\h]
Bonk's issue is with her and Gabe. And
Bon is just being so dismissive of
whatever she has to say. I understand
the argument that a victim of grooming
is not going to know if they're being
groomed because that's the whole point
of grooming. Making that conditioning
feel
>> saying it's a guilt always just
sometimes uses threat so often it helps
people uh will think it's an
overreaction.
>> That's fair.
I still it's it's it's a case by case
basis.
>> 4190 4191 419
>> 4191
it isn't. And this is still very much
true. However, my issue is that Bonk is
more obsessed with pushing the story of
Cla's grooming rather than the actual
people that do claim to be a victim of
gay. Bonk prioritizes being in the right
about Cla's marriage secretly being a
part of a groomer than he is uplifting
Destiny or the Snapchat victim. At least
they are willing to call themselves
victims. They are out here saying we
were groomed and yet bunk's priority is
just to keep pushing this whole thing
with Gabe and Claire instead of doing
anything to verify their testimonies.
>> Why? Why focus people who are asking you
to stop labeling them as victims rather
than work with those who are willing to
go on the record and say that they are
victims? Well, it's probably because he
can't. Like Destiny had mentioned, she
deleted the account in which this
occurred and the Snapchat victim didn't
save the dickpicks to prove that they
happened. And although I understand why
since, you know, they're children and
they wouldn't have the hindsight to save
the evidence, it's still a risk to
platform them without something to
support their claims. Testimony is
evidence. It's important evidence, but
it usually gets classified under
circumstantial evidence over physical
and direct. And usually what builds a
good case is either a smoking gun,
physical or direct evidence, or a lot of
circumstantial evidence that paints a
picture. And this is something that I
even had to deconstruct when I was
speaking to Becket. When people on the
internet say there is no evidence, that
does not mean that they are saying these
people are lying. When Becket says that
there is no direct evidence, he's not
pointing the finger at Destiny or the
Snapchat victim and saying you both are.
>> Yeah. It's never that. It's please
if if you don't like unfortunately like
with with a real like the whole of EV
evidence is these two alleged like nude
photos
and and you continually like like keep
promoting that he sent them to you.
I'm not saying that they're lying. I'm
saying that that's like it's so
detrimental to their
>> want to agree so he has a chance.
>> God.
>> Uh Matty Ice Tuish, you've been saved by
Superman.
>> Yeah. Standard of evidence has to exist.
It just has to because if we don't do
that, every allegation can can like be
promoted
as well as a standard of ethics.
Liars. That's not what he's saying. This
is even something that I had to come to
terms with. Like he's not saying they're
lying. Nobody is saying that these
people are lying. He's just saying that
there's there needs to be more. What
Bonk is trying to do is equate amounting
of circumstantial evidence as direct
evidence and accuse anyone who's asking.
>> It's a quantity. It's quantity over
quality, which does not work.
Allegations are evidence. Mama Flamingco
or just trying to verify information.
He's accusing them of trying to
discredit and disregard the victims and
call them liars for no reason. I am
willing to hear Destiny out. I'm willing
to hear the Snapchat victim out. I'm
willing to show my support and respect
to them. I'm sure a lot of people would,
but all people are asking for is more.
And claiming that's not reasonable and
defending rumors is just kind of dumb.
There is one last thing I want to put
out there as my final critique of Bonk.
As it's known to everyone now, Brony
Fandone is an account that is ran by two
people. Sophie Scruggs and Bonk.
>> Again, picking the nicest picture of
Sophie. I'm going to say this as not.
You're much nicer than me. Much nicer.
>> Present. It is just Bonk running the
account, but I have my own issues with
Sophie Scrogs. Sophie's been platforming
allegations against Gabe longer than
even Bonk has and presented herself as
an expert in the brony scene in
Courtney's video. As we know now, her
reach doesn't extend as far as she
claims it does. And this entire
situation has put her attendance at risk
when Becket spoke to Scott Thornwing,
director of Everree Northwest. And if
Everree Northwest was a good
>> Why do they share one account? So what
it appears to be is that Bonk was
running the Brony Fanon account by
himself. He reper that pick was quote
nice. Yes. Yes.
>> Yes. It's not what she looks like right
now.
>> I do have a comment, too, about about
the one account. You go ahead.
>> So, from from what we can tell, Bonk was
fight when he repurposed the um when he
repurposed the roleplay account. I'm not
much of a looker myself, so using the
quote unquote ugly picture of Sophie
didn't seem fair.
I said, I'm just joking. You're just
picking the nice picture. You're just I
I I am a mean person. I also call myself
ugly all the time. Uh no, I'm just
making I'm just poking fun at at you
being overly nice. Um
but
so what we could tell is that Bonk was
fighting the good fight and then at a
certain point in time him and Sophie
start talking and Sophie just starts
platforming allegations through Bonk.
Because here's something really really
interesting.
Destiny Doodles.
Uh, one of the alleged accusers of
getting a dickpick from Black Griffin
is in Sophie's community,
is in Sophie's art community. Sophie
herself says that Sophie herself has
known about Destiny longer than even
Bonk did. Who do you think connected
Destiny to Bonk? It was Sophie.
Sophie has promoted her GoFundMes before
uh or her Kickstarters.
And again, not something that I
personally care about. Like go make your
bread. Like I know I know Destiny is
currently running a GoFundMe. Uh and I
hope she meets the goal because she's
really that destitute. But like very
interesting that Destiny Doodles comes
from Sophie Scrug's uh community.
>> And uh as for my comment uh on Twitter
and Tumblr uh 10 15 years ago,
>> anyone can make accusations.
>> Yeah,
>> it's not hard.
>> You lost the worlds.
>> Lost the worlds 15. You are saved by
Superman uh 10 15 years ago uh on
Twitter and Tumblr. It is not unheard of
to share accounts like this. Yeah,
that's a very
>> definitely not unheard of. These were
not their main accounts.
>> Uh Bon's main account is gone now. Is
that right?
>> Uh so yeah,
>> so he had a main account. Sophie has a
main account and they shared the fanown
account or they were they were active
users on the fan account. All right.
>> But it is completely not uh unheard of
for
>> people to share multiple accounts at
least 10 15 years ago.
>> Card I have to pause you. I need to show
you all the biggest lie ever.
I just saw the biggest lie on the
platform ever.
Let's go to Diesel's channel real quick.
Diesel has made a community post. What?
Saying that he has a stream schedule.
What?
This [\h__\h] is not staying to this
schedule. This is dog. This is dog. Four
days, five days.
This [\h__\h] is not staying to this
schedule at all.
>> I know. I know. He's got to make the
bread. I hope he does. This is This is
fantastic if true. We're eating good if
we can adhere to the schedule.
>> This [\h__\h] is not staying to this
schedule. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up.
I'm going to send I'm going to send a DM
to him.
Uh,
let me Where's Where's FPS Diesel?
Because I love this man more than my own
life.
GIF thicker. Uh, no. Where's doubt?
I can't wait to hear back from all of
that one.
>> Good reason to ban Sophie. Besides all
this drama, how about the fact that
after Bonk tried to off himself due to
the online harassment in relation to the
brony fandote account, she still gave
Bonk account back? I think Enter
described it best. This is like giving
an alcoholic access to the living.
>> I would agree. I would agree. I would
agree with that. Anyone who is prone to
suicidal tendencies due to poorly
reacting to online harassment.
>> Also, and I don't know,
>> I said the same thing about Sophie doing
this. Like this, she should not have
given it back to him.
>> And I will and this is something that if
I don't know if Lazy includes it in the
video,
Emily is the one that told Sophie to
lock Brony Fanote out of the accounts.
It wasn't Sophie that did it. It was
Emily telling Sophie, "You need to do
it.
You know, [\h__\h] weird, right?
>> Into the account that he used to
streamline his suicide. Sophie clearly
doesn't care for her bunk's wellbeing if
she's effectively retying the news after
it broke the first time. But aside from
Sophie, another character we should
highlight new
wife who Claire has known personally.
>> Damn. Also getting like great pictures
of everybody.
>> It's not if it's not in the video
because I never directly saw the
correspondence actually. Yeah, it's in
Beckett's last video
>> or at least knows of them
>> where the switch was with Amy. Um, I
don't know if my own father has talked
to either of them, but I do know that my
dad has reached out to people that I've
worked with and warned them about me
when I had told my parents that, you
know, I was I was in a relationship um
with Gabe and um this is when I was
almost 20. Um I don't know when the swap
or switch was for Amy. Um I had met her
a few times before. I knew she was
married um to Peter New. I think I I
can't remember a whole lot about her.
Um, but I I don't know. I don't know.
She's like kind of mixed up in the fan
world and she came first as a fan from
to my knowledge. She was a fan first and
then she just kind of started dating
Peter and I was like, "Oh, that's
interesting."
>> And um she
>> yeah was kind of like a fan of My Little
Pony and a fan of Peter and then started
dating.
>> So this is where we need to talk about
this group's true motives. But I must
make this absolutely clear that this is
merely just me theory crafting.
Throughout this process, I tried to
speak to Sophie and Amy, but they do not
>> TheoryCraft girl.
>> I wonder why. Or at least I'll be
>> TheoryCraft girl. TheoryCraft girl.
What? What? What? What did she say? What
did What did they say?
Uh, Sophie Scruggs, like I said, I don't
want u I don't want any part of this
more than I already am. Please respect
that. It caused me more stress than, you
know, and affects my daily life. I don't
really give a [\h__\h] I promised my
partner I wouldn't go further with this.
Oh, that's sad for your partner. I don't
give a [\h__\h] Uh, hey Amy. I really like
your videos and I think you seem like a
really cool person, but respectfully,
no. I'm sorry.
>> I or at least I'll be giving my good
reason now. Could these people come out
and just say something along the lines
of nuhuh just as a bon
>> Sophie is the snail lady.
>> Sure, but I doubt it. So, let me present
to you my final argument against Brony
fanat.
>> She's a little more than that
mastermind.
>> After Beck's first video went live
featuring Claire and Michelle's
interviews, Bon and Amy both claimed
that Beck's video wasn't legal. The
reason they felt that way.
>> So, they said it wasn't legal. Now,
we've talked about why
they said it wasn't legal, but let's
>> Yo, Phineas has got a new bon too. This
guy's everywhere. Well, Phineas was
talking to them because he was also KP's
mod. It's like a
>> I know. That's why I'm like that's crazy
that he's also like why
>> because he was more he was more okay
with the lazy and enter at the time
>> which is just fair.
>> Was because of an audio recording
featuring Claire, her father, what I
believe is also her mom in the call.
>> Uh that's good. I haven't seen the
video. Yeah. Yeah. Therapy session. I
wonder how Amy knows specifically that
this is a therapy session.
>> Huh? Amy, I wonder how you know that
this is a therapy session.
No one's ever publicly stated it.
>> Having a group therapy session now, due
to a misunderstanding of HIPPA, Bob
claims that the recording violates the
consent of
>> It's an incredible misunderstanding
of HIPPA. Incredible misunderstanding.
>> The people in this
>> Hold on. Pause.
>> Phineas knows everyone. He was in a Mr.
Beast video once. His connections are
[\h__\h] crazy. Who the [\h__\h] is this guy?
I've never heard of Phineas in my life.
>> This is crazy.
>> But good for him. Seems like an okay
guy. I like
I remember you losing your mind in the
Becket stream at this part. Yes. And
we'll get there. Yeah. Uh someone get
Rosanna on this kid. I talked to someone
recently who got stuck that met Rosanna
Pansino
>> and you will never believe who Rosanna
Pansino was talking to.
>> This story is crazy. Well, we're moving
on.
>> We are. He was in Lio Convoy's call with
Doodle Tones. What the [\h__\h] Fidious.
>> This guy's everywhere.
>> Fidious. Fidious. The courthouse calls.
Yeah. Fidious. Buddy, I don't know who
you are. We've never spoken before,
>> but nice.
>> Really? Explain how when speaking to
Phineas, he just kind of says, and I
quote, "I'm saying only what I'm allowed
to say. Not everyone had given consent.
That's the truth. And there's no reason
to believe."
>> Wish you wouldn't know
>> unless Amy told me.
>> Unless you talked to
>> And then Amy had to learn that from
somebody else.
>> Uhhuh.
>> Claire asked at all. I'm saying only
what I am allowed to say. Not everyone
had given consent. That's the truth.
>> I wonder.
>> Interesting. So, I have a few questions.
The first kind of being like a compound
question, what exactly aren't you
allowed to say? What's holding you back
in giving us more details? What are you
hiding? And the most important question,
how do you know that? You claim that not
everyone had given consent to this
therapy session. My question is,
>> how do you know that the same thing? I
don't know if you know this or if it
matters much anymore. That recording
Claire played on the copen seed thing
was a private family therapy session. I
don't think Ian is a great person, but I
wish people would understand that they
were speaking openly to a therapist.
They were trying to get
>> interesting. Amy, why do you
>> I think how do you know that is like my
favorite my favorite like how do you
know that?
>> How do you know that?
>> Help. That's interesting. Amy, how do
you know that? Also,
>> we're [\h__\h] hive mindive
mind.
>> I'm going to start using that more often
because that's such a good
>> such a good good like limiter of like
the situations.
>> I've done that to people too. Like how
do you know?
>> I love it. I love that we're all hive
minding right now. Interesting thing.
How do either of these people know this
call from a therapy session? If you
watch Becket's video, he doesn't mention
that this was from a family.
>> Here's the weird thing. I don't think
the recording was from a therapy
session.
I can confirm
that the statement was made privately.
Becca and I can confirm that. Becket
said it on his video. Uh, but we never
said it publicly.
We never said it publicly. How Amy
knows, I'm very curious about and it's
not in the Billy Bustup doc either.
What do we mean? Oh, CeCe, we're not
there yet
>> at all.
>> Now, many people haven't heard this.
It's part of one of the Gabe defense
documents and a little bit difficult to
access. So, with permission, I'm just
going to play it for you. And if you go
to the defense document by Billy Bustup
where these recordings were originally
published, but they weren't accessible,
they don't mention the origins of the
recorded call.
>> It is a [\h__\h] to grab, by the way. I had
to like email people to get them. I I
had requested them. I It was a whole big
[\h__\h] mess.
>> The only people that made it a fact that
these were recorded calls in a group
family therapy session was Amy New and
Bonk.
>> Uhhuh.
>> But how do they know that? Aside from
how they seemingly knew this
information, they also know for a fact
that not everyone in that call gave
>> uh listening to the call, Claire's
talking to Ian. Claire says, "Did you
know about this to someone?" And Ian
says, "No, your mother does have
everything about it." Yes. So, it's
clear. It's Claire's Claire, her dad,
and her and mom. Yes. Ario Speed Wagon.
So, this is something that's really
funny.
Uh, shout outs to Enter for like
noticing something that was
unintentional.
Uh, it was us that got the call and
added the uh the captions to it. Um, and
it was an unintended thing to put the
dot dot dot where the edit was. It was
an unintended thing by Ash.
It was just the way the program did it
and then uh they were like fussing
around with it. It was actually
completely. But it is funny. It's funny
to believe. Yeah, we're the ones that
procured it and put uh subtitles to it.
>> Consent to be recorded. My question is
who? Clearly, it isn't clear if she's
posting this online. Something as the
patient, she is allowed to do. Patient
rights state that a patient
>> Yes, she is. Yes, she is. She's allowed
to record it.
>> Can make any of their medical history
known to anyone, including the public,
as it is their right. And if she's the
one recording, clearly she
>> And very interesting to note, if Ian's
in there, he doesn't sign a HIPPA
waiver. Oh, he could, but the issue
becomes that it's primarily
his daughter's care.
>> He consents. Is it the therapist? Well,
with asked directly, Bon claims to have
never spoken to CLA's therapist or even
knows who they are, despite how
concerned he seems to be of this
therapist losing their
>> therapists can't lose their job. They
can't lose their license if a patient
spreads information about their medical
health, just like no medical
professional can lose their license over
the fact that they spread their health.
>> He can't seem to prove that they didn't
consent to the session being recorded.
The only person that leaves is Cla's
parents, but most specifically Ian James
Corlet. Cla has claimed for years that
Ian was controlling and abusive. She was
even convinced that Brony Fandone was
her father because he self admittedly
made alt accounts to call Gabe out. And
yet, despite all this, Brony Fandone
seemingly has defended Ian on multiple
occasions. There wasn't any abuse to
talk about. Aside from saying abuse
happened, your only specifics you gave
were your parents doing things that
seemingly were attempts to keep you away
from Gabriel, which is a very reasonable
thing for them to
>> ding ding ding.
>> As for abuse, I do not know whether or
not Ian is an abuser. All I do know is
claiming examples of abuse reads pretty
much more to me as a parent wanting to
desperately get their child away from a
predator. If I'm wrong, give me the part
of her message that is different. As for
Saber and Paleo, yes, they defended his
grooming. They also aggressively
harassed anyone who showed empathy to
Cla's father. When he spoke about
missing his daughter, they implied Ian
was an abuser, but that remains to be
seen and doesn't justify how they spoke.
Even in my own coverage of the Black
Griffin allegations, I said that I was
willing to believe Ian was abusive. I
just didn't know because I don't know
him personally or Clare, but I was
willing to at least believe it when
Clare says it. Blanc is not for some
reason. Why? I thought you wanted to
believe victims. So, why are you so
dismissive to claims of an abusive
father? And the thing is, Ian isn't
unfamiliar with Brony Fanote as he
follows the Brony Fanote account.
getting warmer
>> on Twitter. But that's not all. He also
follows Sophie Scruggs on both
Instagram.
>> We're getting warmer
>> and Twitter. And when Ian posted an open
letter to his daughter in response to
not being invited to Clar and Gab's
wedding, guess who is reposting it in
Ian's responses? Amy New. So let's
>> recap. Amy New was told in person by Ian
about the allegations.
>> I'm about to subscribe.
I'm about to subscribble. I'm already
subscribble. What are you talking about?
Oh [\h__\h] Should I hid the fugie and not
the display capture?
>> Is even reposting his open letter to
Clare. Although Brony Fand has claimed
to have never met Ian or taken orders
from him, Ian is at least aware of him.
He follows the Broy Fando account
alongside Sophie Scrugs on Twitter and
Instagram. We know that he has made
alternative accounts before. Self
admittedly, it's even suspected that
this Flutter cult account that called
Copen's alt right before Bon did is
allegedly.
>> Yeah, we have some suspicions. Yeah,
thank you, Funk Phony Bonkers. Thank
you, Phony Bonkers. in alt and you know
honestly it has to be him because all of
the same actors are following the
flutter cult account new sophie
>> oh
also Jenny Nicholson oh that's a weird
one
>> bonk boot master and when you think
about it bonk and Ian have a lot in
>> Woot Master's also following him
fascinating
>> in terms of how they present the
allegations against black griffin and
how they act online if we are to believe
that the flutter cult account is Ian
then both bonk and Ian have a few things
in common they both relentlessly call
people altright both seed and black
griffin both are harping at other
entities at Billy Bustup and Momcon.
>> And it's and it's to be noted
that the biggest thing is that they
believe being conservative and alt-right
would kill his pull in the fandom
because it's very progressive
to have Gabe removed. And both accounts
are obsessively tweeting about Black
Griffin constantly. They have a lot of
similarities that I honestly don't blame
Claire for thinking Bonk was her dad.
And then I had speculated actually for a
while um that this could have been my
own dad because my dad has done stuff
like this before. The language was very
similar. I had alluded to some you know
sassy remarks I made with brony fandom
uh this account and I was just trying to
kind of gauge the waters and I'm like
yeah I found out that it wasn't him and
I was like kind of relieved but I also
was kind of mad cuz I was like well dang
now we just have like another crazy
person with the same kind of mentality.
But if there's one thing that I would
like to point to as a direct correlation
it would be this. Bonk mentions that the
recording was a hippo violation. When I
spoke to Phineas he had mentioned that
Bonk claimed that it was illegal because
it was a violation of privacy and
shouldn't be on YouTube. What's so funny
about that is that Becket did get a
privacy.
>> Yes, he did. Oh,
Ian, your [\h__\h] is showing.
>> Wait, he never made this public. He's
only ever shared it with me in private
and has given me permission to share it.
Now, it doesn't say directly who filed
this privacy concern, but the time stamp
is the entire recording. So, here's my
question. Did Bunk report the video for
privacy? He seems pretty adamant that
the video needs to come down, but
usually privacy complaints are filed via
the person whose privacy is being
violated. And it's also to be noted that
it takes multiple complaints if you're
doing a privacy complaint. In in in
experience,
I've heard that it takes multiple
complaints to do that, not just a single
one.
>> Not on behalf of someone else. So my
question is, did Ian take Bonk's advice
in claiming the video is illegal? I also
find it really interesting that Bonk
claims that he never has seen Copen's
video or is even going to entertain it.
But
>> yeah, that's right. Bong says that he's
never seen it. I wonder who else may
have
>> will so confidently talk about the
contents of said video. Even straight up
saying things that are just not said in
the video at all. Like he claims that
Clare said that Sophie forced her to pet
her snail when Clare never says this.
>> Nope. And I'm using this as a specific
example. I actually had to go back and
research this because I had forgot about
it because it meant nothing to me. Sorry
Sophie. I'm not trying to be rude here.
But I don't remember that I complimented
your snail once. That was something that
I did in the moment because I was being
friendly and nice. Now, somehow I'm
getting back dabbed because you decided
to tweet out to everybody years ago the
last time you got frustrated that I was
in a relationship with Gabe before we
were married and we had announced that
we were dating. You said you were
worried for your dear friend, your close
friend, Claire, me.
>> And I'm sitting here going, "Who the
hell are you? Have I even met you
before?" Like, what the freak? Then I
have to go back and I find out. Oh,
thank God. I actually did meet her.
Okay, so she's not
>> pet the snail, huh?
>> You know, totally crazy. But then I keep
reading this stuff and I'm like, "Oh my
gosh, this is literally it. I
complimented your snail one time and I
think I might have DM'd you about a bag
that I saw at a convention and
>> the snail is the true victim. You're all
right.
>> You were at the convention and you, you
know, you and I walked through the
vendor hall and I was like, "Oh, you
really pretty bags." Cuz one of them had
my character on it. I was like, "That's
so cool. I think I might have taken a
picture of it." And then I was like,
"Hey, like you know, how do you sell
your bag?" I think I DM'd her like,
"Hey, how do you sell your bags?" Like I
might have wanted to retweet that or
promote that at some point. Right. There
is one last thing I would like to share
with you because if there is one thing
that I think verifies my suspicion of
all of this, it would be this. Ian has
been known to reach out to content
creators who have spoken about Black
Griffin or at least have worked with
him. It's been speculated, though not
confirmed, that he spoke with The Living
to Tombstone to have their collaboration
with
>> This has been speculated. I have heard
this speculation once before.
>> Abe removed from their channel. But I
can't say 100% if that's a fact or if
that's true. That's just hearsay. What
is not hearsay is the fact that I have
spoken to Ian 5 days after my black
rhythm video went live. He
>> And there we go.
>> Allegedly, and now Lazy will explain it.
Allegedly, Ian reached out to Lazy
after her video went live.
He reached out to me. I have held back
on talking about this because I'm the
type of person who if you tell me not to
say [\h__\h] I won't. The only time I have
broken this rule is with the clips from
Bon's interview because I don't have to
keep my word to a full concrete that's
in the cartoon children. But otherwise,
if we are having a private conversation
and you ask me to keep it private, I
will keep it private. In the past, when
content creators leak DMs or talk about
a private conversation publicly, they're
usually seen as a massive [\h__\h] for
leaking private chats, things the public
does not need to see. And because I at
least have like a baseline respect for
privacy, I try to respect when people
revoke their consent for private
conversations to be out in the public.
When I heard that recording of Ian being
verbally aggressive towards Claire, I
blocked him and I deleted all of our
messages. I wanted nothing to do with
them. I have tried to get like data
retrieval from Instagram to
>> There are ways to do it. I don't know
how far Lazy is in that process. if if
she's requested the data. Uh I don't
know how well Instagram can be with it.
Um
if she grabs it, I know she'll publish
it or allow one of us to. I kind of get
it if she's unable to.
Yes, she shouldn't have deleted them,
but I also get it. I get it. I get it. I
get it. I get it. Don't delete things,
Lazy. Don't delete it ever. Keep it
forever.
>> To see if I can get these messages
again, but I just I couldn't do it. I
can't retrieve the messages. And since
Ian has asked not to show anyone those
messages, I won't because regrettably I
can't. It was that was so stupid of me.
I should have gotten screenshots and
whatever to verify, but I I just I
didn't. I can tell you what I said
though from memory, mind you, because we
had a total of two correspondences
regretfully. I didn't know if Ian was
abusive or not. I was a bit more cordial
than I should have been. This is mainly
because I thought if he's unblocked Ian,
if you ever posted our DMs, he can if he
wants. He never will though.
>> He just never will. I like Ian will
never post the DMs in my personal
opinion. It just it just won't happen
because he doesn't want to Ian doesn't
want to be publicly involved in this. He
will do it privately. He will never do
it publicly.
>> Mhm.
>> Talk to me. Maybe I could hear his side
of the story and maybe the claims of
abuse are just a narrative or something
that's not true, you know, as a rumor
tactic to keep clar away from him.
Interestingly, Ian wouldn't confirm nor
deny the claims and just kept telling me
that he didn't want it to be known that
he was involved with any of this and to
please tell no one that he ever spoke.
This should have been a red flag, but
maybe he was just trying to rebuild his
family, I suppose. And I just didn't
want to get in the way of like a
grieving father and get involved in like
someone else's family drama. So, I just
let it be. It was none of my business.
Not my family, not my [\h__\h] circus. I
was nice to Ian simply because I'm just
kind of baseline friendly with everyone
who talks to me about my videos. That's
what our first conversation was about.
He basically just wanted to text me and
be like, "I liked your video and I also
like that little skate you put in it.
Thank You know, at that point, I think I
did apologize to Ian because I said
something that was like insinuating that
Ian passed his daughter around to both
Mando Pony and Gabe. And I said, you
know what? I think Clare might have had
a point. If my father allowed me to be
around two men who were into Little
Girls a little bit too much, I don't
think I would talk to him either. Just
add that into the pile of regrettable
things I said in that video. But yeah, I
wanted to apologize for insinuating that
Ian might have trafficked his daughter
to creeps. I thought saying that was a
little a little bit too far along with
like a bunch of other things I said that
were too far. I just wanted to wish him
and his family well. Like, hope you all
are doing good. I also was maybe hoping
for an interview. didn't like want to
bombard him with one, but was kind of
hoping that he could answer some
questions if it wasn't too much to ask.
I should have been like more direct
about it, but like this is like a
seasoned voice actor. I was I was a bit
shocked that he'd even reach out to me
in the first place. But Ian wasn't
interested in keeping in constant
communication with me. He asked me not
to tell anyone that we ever spoke or
show anyone our conversations and that
he didn't want to be on record or
anything because he didn't want people
to know that he was involved. Well,
>> which is insane.
>> Yeah.
>> You don't want people to know that
you're involved in trying to save your
daughter? Fascinating. I wonder why.
Ian is Claire's uh father
>> who is also a voice actor in his own
right
>> who cannot um be involved with this
publicly because then he will lose all
of his jobs if people find out how much
of a freak he is. Almost like it's the
same reason why Emily never wanted to
post it publicly. Uh Claire is the wife
of Black Griffin for cups. I am not
going to explain who Black Griffin is. I
swear to God,
>> you know, seeing as he is openly
following the people who are involved
and is talking to me directly,
>> he's he's Canadian Goku. So, he's Goku
for like 30 episodes in Canada once,
>> you know, he never says Kamehameha.
>> I don't care.
>> That was a funny little tidbit I
learned. He just never says Kamehameha.
>> That's obviously not true. He is very
much involved. And the second
conversation was after KP's video and
all it was was just talking about how
bad the video was and that he hoped the
victim was okay and how much this has
personally affected him with how Saber
has openly attacked him. I am just
guessing that he was really banking on
this being true, especially since Ian
follows a super
on Twitter, which is super mature for a
six-year-old man. And that's it. Our two
conversations was just, "Hey, I thought
your video was good. Man, KP's video
sucked." And that's it. Also, please
don't tell me when we talked or
whatever. Now, if I had listened to that
recording beforehand, would I have ever
entertained talking to this guy?
>> [\h__\h] no. But his conversations with me
did end up turning the cogs in my head
and making me concoct this grand
conspiracy. Like if this guy was willing
to reach out to me, me, some [\h__\h]
stupid random who talks about Netflix
movies for a living. If he was willing
to reach out to me, who's this?
>> Also, if anyone wants to help with third
party uh retrieval to get the DMs, I'll
work with you and try to get them back.
Um,
so you can reach out to Instagram and
ask for the data. I don't know as much
as what your third party stuff you can
do with it to be fair. I actually don't
know. Nabon and Sophie. And it was when
Claire said this.
>> I don't know if my own father has talked
to either of them, but I do know that my
dad has reached out to people that I've
worked with and warned them about me
when I had told my parents that, you
know, I was I was in a relationship um
with Gabe
>> that it all just clicked. Amy, Bonk, and
Sophie have always been in contact with
each other. And although I do believe
that Bonk had at least initially worked
on his own in the beginning, he also
mentioned people reaching out to him who
were silenced by Gabe and Cla over the
years. And I have no doubt in my mind
that either Amy has reached out to as
like a secret mouthpiece for Ian or Ian
has been directly in contact with
>> and I would agree with this. I would
agree with this based on how in the
interview which I recommend you watch or
watch Beckett's uh stream on it. The
interview the way that Bon says he
hasn't spoken to Ian but but could only
know information about Ian and he also
says he gets a lot of his information
from Amy and Sophie. I believe that Ian
is talking to them.
This whole thing, at least the rumors
about Claire, they all come from Ian.
It's always been him. How long has it
been him? I don't know. I'm not too
sure. But I know damn well that this
idea that Ian is just removed from all
of this isn't [\h__\h] true. He told me
he was personally involved in all this.
He knows all this stuff. He's been
following it from the start. If there is
one thing I think should deter you from
listening to Bonk, Amy New, or Sophie
Scruggs at all, aside from them all
being, you know, kind of insane is the
fact that they are mouthpieces for Ian
James Corlet. And Sophie and Amy might
not ever admit this, but ladies, I know
exactly where your barking orders are
coming from. You're trying to slink away
now and just try to avoid [\h__\h] me all
together. But you don't get to [\h__\h]
run. Not after the [\h__\h] you pulled.
You've taken the side of an emotional
abuser. Proven so solidly. Than you do
with the people that you claim are
victims that you say that you
>> Yep.
>> care about. You don't care about
victims. You never cared about victims.
All you care about is sucking up to
industry voice actors like Ian or Peter
New who is also under scrutiny for
apparently saying inappropriate things
to underage girls.
>> And I think that's also really funny
considering Peter New is somebody who
has said inappropriate things about
girls who are underage.
>> You're not protecting. You're
projecting. And you know what the worst
part is? The worst part is that people
like Sophie Bonk and Amy, they are
weaponizing their black and white
thinking. Here's the thing. No one wants
to stand by an abuser. People want to
believe victims because people who lie
about sex crimes and abuse, that's rare.
And you'll see this when Bon fights with
people. If you disagree with his claims
or ask him questions, he calls you a
defender of
>> groomers and rapists. And since no one
wants to be that guy who stands by a
rapist or
>> Oh my god, the robot reference.
>> I don't ever remember seeing the the
thumbnail for that. That's funny
>> because it disappeared immediately.
>> I know. I know. I know. Um uh I know I'm
not adding a lot to that back end of
this uh video, but I'm just like I'm
locked in like like this. This is Yes.
Yes. We stand lazy bed head
>> a groomer and they want to believe
victims because victim blaming and being
dismissive is shitty. They'll just take
your word for it. This doesn't just
expand to randos on Twitter. This
applies to Cla herself because now she's
equally as bad as everyone who stands by
game. She's a groomer, apologist, and a
defender of an abuser. And somehow you
saying that isn't also treating victims
like [\h__\h] If you see Claire as a
victim, why are you allowed to toss her
to the side when she doesn't appeal with
you? And that's totally fine. But when
people ask questions regarding Destiny's
claims or the Snapchat victim, you
dismiss that as a victim blaming and
defending abusers. Why are you allowed
to toss Claire to the side and ignore
her victimhood when it comes to her
father, but no one is allowed to bring
their concerns about your investigation
without being accused of tossing victims
to the side? You're abusing people's
kindness. You're abusing people's care
for victims and forcing their arm behind
their back. Because apparently Amy, Bon,
and Sophie are the only true advocates
for victims. They're the only ones who
are doing what's right by them. what
Destiny and the Snapchat victim should
do is rely on rain as a resource instead
of Brody Fan and Co. Yet that suggestion
gets shot down by both. He was
apparently angry that people would
suggest Rain at all as he dismisses the
idea that Rain is the only solution
which
>> he thought Rain was a [\h__\h] YouTuber.
>> That's right. He thought Rain was a
[\h__\h] YouTuber. And he's still mad to
this day that Anthony even suggested
using a victim advocacy uh uh
organization. You know what pisses me
off about it?
You know what really pisses me off?
Sophie and Amy have posted, "Oh, guys,
you don't understand. Why use Rain?
They've lost funding. I can't believe
they've Why would you do that? You don't
understand how underfunded they are. You
stupid [\h__\h] [\h__\h] What do you
mean? You know nothing about Rain. Do
you know their credentials? Do you know
how they get support? Do you know what
their funding is? You stupid idiots.
Shut the [\h__\h] up."
>> So, is Bon dumb or malicious? Bonk is
malicious. Yeah, malicious. Wait,
seriously? Yes, Lazy. I have tweets from
Sophie and Amy
discussing it them saying that's all a
lie. I swear to God. Yeah, I Okay, let
me see if I can find it real quick
because it's it's hard for me to search
Amy uh because she's blocked me. I think
the search feature is off when they
block you. So, I might have to have Greg
do it. Give me 20 seconds.
Uh, X.
>> They blocked you.
>> Amy did.
>> Amy knows who you are.
>> Yes, because I went back at her cuz it
was funny to [\h__\h] with her
>> cuz she's a stupid idiot.
>> Literally the most boring human being
that's ever existed.
>> Hey, she had sex with a Sonic voice
actor. That's saying something. I could
never.
So, uh, just to highlight when bringing
up rain.
Uh, let's see.
So, here's the rain stuff. When bringing
up rain in that, nobody involved rain.
This is the 13th. Anthony talking about
it. They they did content. They were
told, "I'm sorry, you don't deserve it."
And that was really it. No. How? How?
How? How? And then Amy New goes, I don't
know it's been related to the victim,
but Rain has been cutting services. Just
thought it might be worth mentioning.
>> Interesting.
>> That's got to be the
>> Oh, I meant Bonk thinking Rain was a
YouTuber. Oh, he thinks Yeah, he thinks
Rain's like a person. Like he thought
Rain was like a person and it it the
joke is is that he thought Rain was
literally like a [\h__\h] YouTuber
because like Bon only believes in
internet justice.
So internet justice means that Rain is a
person, not just like KP.
That's the issue.
>> No, no one was saying that. He
apparently also had no idea what Rain
even was. an advocate for sexual abuse
survivors.
>> No, no one was saying that. He
apparently also had no idea what Rain
even
>> I demus. I don't even know who that is.
>> Who? Who?
>> That's right.
Because he is assuming it's another
YouTuber.
He's just assuming it's another
YouTuber.
Yo, mama's so stupid. She thought Rain
was the guy who played Dwight on The
Office.
>> That's hilarious.
>> And guess what, Lazy? If we're talking
about this, let me see if I can find it
now. Then, let's look up Sophie Scruggs
now that I I Sophie Scrugs. There we go.
though if we look up Sophie Scrugs
and Rain.
Weird.
Uh let's go to the latest
weird
interestingly enough I've also heard
that Rain doesn't have enough resources
at this point. He'll direct them to 988
to Trump brand health resource.
So, here's another interestingly another
person in this story casting disparaging
uh uh information regarding Rain
>> so that when it comes back to them that
they never reported any of this to Rain,
why would they? Because they're
untrustworthy and they're losing
funding.
>> Yep. Exactly.
Creating a similar narrative that Rain
is losing funding and Emily could have
never gone to Rain. None of the victims
could ever go to Rain. Fascinating. What
a fascinating series of events.
>> Was an advocate for sexual abuse
survivors. Has no idea what resources
are out there besides law enforcement.
And he doesn't think that's a problem.
The biggest upside for those who utilize
Rain over brony fan is that at least
Rain won't use victim stories as
weapons. If you want to know what the
biggest issue with this entire
initiative is, it's that they don't
stand by [\h__\h] They say they stand by
victims, but they also treat those they
see as victims like dog [\h__\h] They say
that they hate pedophilia and children
being sexualized, but defend fullcon and
woot master. They say that they all come
from abusive homes and take accusations
of familial abuse seriously, but then
take all of their barking orders from an
abusive father. Even if these people
make arguments I agree with, even if
they do listen to victims and give them
support, the bare minimum, it's based
purely out of their own self-interest
and not because they genuinely care. And
also, another side note, these people
are screaming about accountability, but
they don't even know what that would
even look like. Like, what do these
people want? Do they want Gabe and
Claire to get divorced? What the hell is
that going to do? How would that make
anything better? Blonk,
>> it just doesn't.
>> So, this video is great.
>> Yeah. Uh yeah, this video is great. Uh
yeah, and I also sent it over to Lazy. I
got you. I got you. I got you. So this
is So
not to really weirdly bring this back
up, but this is like been my this is
part of been my my LIO argument too,
right?
There are victims. There are adult
victims who are holding the ta like
truly who are holding the task of the
oldest ACC wos who in their own way use
Lio to get at them.
What is the end goal of making of of
farming somebody for content? Listen, if
you want to cover Lio's past mistakes,
by all [\h__\h] means, go do it. Go ask.
Like
>> there's tons. There's tons. Go ask
Chris. Go ask Becket. I like Becket was
on I believe like Cesa's stream, a
different streamer uh in in the whole
thing telling telling uh Cesa where to
find all of old Lio's problems, which I
think is [\h__\h] fine, but like what is
the end goal of of what is the end goal
of today? What do you compare things to
like the Rosa call or anything? And the
reason I bring that up, it's like, what
is the end goal for this? Having Claire
and and Gabe break up. There is no
there's no end goal. The end goal is
deplatforming
um deplatforming everything. Yeah. Like
Yen says, like people are people are
free to point out the issues if they use
correct information.
It was I think it was definitely before
Beckett's first video came out that he
showed me the audio early. So yeah.
Yeah. I I know. I know. But like that's
that's the issue I have. It's like is
your end goal spreading misin? Is your
end goal deplatforming? Is your end goal
farming content? I don't care. If you're
farming content, go for it. Go for it.
Like, at least do it. At least farm the
correct content.
>> And it's not really even for that
because they they don't make money off
of Twitter and Yes. and uh blue sky
engagement. They're they're not making
videos on this. They're they're just
doing it because
I I mean from this angle to appease Ian.
>> Yeah. At this point. Yeah.
>> Because they don't like Black Griffin.
>> Yeah.
>> For the love of the game, I don't get
it.
>> I know Moon Bunny says they want them to
die. I will say this, Ian
hates Gabe. It's very obvious that Ian's
I'll be honest, Ian's main objective
very well likely may include that. I'm
not saying that what it is. I'm just
saying that like his obsession with Gabe
is very like milistic and I get it. But
it is at the detriment of his daughter
who has openly kind of like just stated
that um that's openly just stated how
much it like his abuse like how she
feels abused by him. Um this makes me
actually angry because like this is the
type of [\h__\h] I do. I'm a social worker.
I work with rape victims and sees
victims. Like the pain in their eyes
it's haunting. Like yeah that's what I'm
saying. Like the fact that these people
like Amy and Sophie are casting doubt on
social services that are already
inundated also is delegitimal
de deenfranchising not even legitimizing
deenfranchising
the individuals who go there every
single day to work and hopefully make a
difference in people's lives
in any small way. in any small way.
That's the problem.
>> Took something that I cared about,
something I was passionate about that
affects people in my real life. And he
went on a crusade for himself, not for
Destiny, not for Anon. It was for him.
And for what? Some parasocial
relationship, some need for some brony
fame, some entertainment, maybe. I don't
know. But what I do know is that you've
made it so much harder for victims.
People will give little to no charity to
victims coming forward all because of
people like you. The conversation around
these stories have become so toxic of
those playing into the perfect victim
narratives to demanding things out of
these victims that would be impossible.
>> Not disenfranchised, not deen. Thank
you. Thank you. Thank you. My brain just
like [\h__\h] It's been a long It's been
a long one.
>> It's almost 8 hours.
>> And if they don't have that on hand at
that moment, they're liars just looking
to farm clout. That's not every single
victim, though. That's not the goal of
everyone who wants to speak up. But
because of people like Bunk, they will
have to fight so much harder to be
believed and discredit the idea that
they're doing this for clout or to ruin
people's lives. And it's all your fault.
You were so busy pushing for some sort
of victimhood from Clare Michelle that
you didn't bother aiding in Destiny's
allegations when her identity was
exposed and then she got cannibalized
because you never cared about any of
these people. It was only ever about
either satisfying Ian's ego or
satisfying you. Not everyone who cares
about the Black Griffin story is like
this. There are people who genuinely are
concerned care. I care.
>> Get them. Get them.
>> And if you do care about stories like
this, if Destiny and the Snapchat victim
are adamant in their allegation, please
rely on resources that will actually do
the right thing the right way and
actually give a [\h__\h] Because if you
continue to rely on
>> Can I get Can I get a queen lazy in the
chat?
>> Can I get Queen Lazy in the chat?
>> Don't as your source, you'll never see
justice. You'll never be believed and
you will only be used as a shield. Don't
let him do that to you. Bunk, if there
is any part of you that cares about this
genuinely, step down from the story. You
will stop making yourself a mouthpiece
for Ian James Corlette because the only
saving grace with you is that I'm pretty
sure you're so mentally unstable that
Amy and Sophie see you as the perfect
person to manipulate into doing their
bidding. Or at least Ian's bidding. Bunk
seems so loyal to them when the truth
may be that his stupidity is being used
against them. Bunk, I beg of you. For
the sake of yourself, for the sake of
the victims, hang it up for once. This
would actually be the one helpful thing.
>> God, lazy. Yeah, sure.
>> Well, that was cathartic. But the
question is, what now? While an apology
is great, and while giving you the true
picture is very important, you guys are
going to want to see change. There has
to be change. Otherwise, I I risk this
happening again. I've been doing this
whole content creation thing for 5
years. And within those five years, I
got rusty. And name intended, this time,
I got lazy. This is what I'm going to do
to avoid this from happening in the
future. Any stories I talk about
involving like abuse or sex scandals or
relationship scandals, maybe little to
non-existent going forward as I haven't
exactly shown to be the most responsible
in regards to these stories. There's a
few that I have in the back catalog that
I might consider talking about, but
that's going to need like a whole team
behind it and it's not just, you know,
me by myself where stakes can at least
be caught. I will be putting a team of
researchers together. It'll be mostly
like on a volunteer basis and it won't
always be needed. It's just for the
stuff that needs that extra hand. I also
have made a lot of connections through
the story that have proven to be like
reasonable researchers and investigators
that I heavily respect. So, they will
also be like more heavily relied on when
needed. I will also doing more
interviews as
>> I'll be here to say it right now, Lazy.
If you ever need help with research or
interview stuff, you can always reach
out. Straight up. Straight up. If you
need help, just reach out.
I got no issues.
If we have the time, I will make time
for you. Straight up. If we can't. No, I
will. Yeah, if we have the time, I will
make the time.
>> I've self admitted I'm not good at
interviews. I I don't feel like I ask
the right questions or I can be a little
too charitable and don't push back as
much as I should. Or I kind of just
treat it like a convo with a friend. But
that doesn't mean that I should just
throw my hands in the air and just be
like, "Well, I guess I'm just really bad
at this. I should just never do it
again." It comes with practice and it
comes from experience and it comes from
listening to others and just learning. I
will also be maintaining
>> the block on the job. The block on the
job is so good. I got the block on the
job over here. Yeah, I hate you guys.
>> My removal from Twitter and Twitter
likes from my life as it is better for
my mental health and sanity. However, a
lot of the reason I didn't know about a
lot of this stuff is because, you know,
Bon and Amy and Sophie, all those people
are on Twitter and I don't have a
Twitter. If I did, it would have solved
all my problems. A part of the
investigative team going forward is
actually, you know, having those who do
use Twitter helping in that regard so
that I don't miss anything. I would like
to shift.
>> You're good. You're good, Lizzy. Don't
even worry about
>> content into a different direction.
Something that's a little low risk. This
channel has been mainly about like my
hyperfixations and a lot of my
hyperfixations have been on like dark
[\h__\h] like this. And it's been like this
for so long. It's because I care about
this stuff. I care about it enough to
own up when I am [\h__\h] up. I should
know better if I care about this. So, I
hope the changes will make content more
solid and age better. I would like to
thank some of the people who have helped
in this process. Becket, thank you so
much for hearing me out and um having
that conversation with me and reaching a
positive consensus with each other. I
hope you guys will give his content a
chance. He's definitely a lot edgier
than what you're used to over here on
this channel. Um and he's a bit of a
drama farmer, but like he's sane, which
is
>> we're all kind Yeah. Yeah. We're all
kind of drama farmers.
>> Yeah.
>> We're all kind of drama farmers in our
own right. And I kind of like that
though. rare in the
>> other thing is like we're all kind of
like have our our niches or we all have
our like like our own interests that
that uh that we want to talk about. So
that kind of helps too.
>> Yeah, I like doing the true crime stuff
when the drama is low because I love
true crime. It's fascinating. Just a
fascinating fun time.
>> I appreciate that. I'm happy that our
perspectives of each other were totally
off. I hope that we can continue to at
least be friendly in the future. I would
also like to thank Mr. Enter and his
team that includes Wes, Kota, Mattie,
Gracland, Chico, and Phineas. to chat
with everyone and give each other
feedback and advice. I think it was in
keeping each other sane. So, thank you
so much. I would also like to thank on
the op block. I wasn't aware.
>> Hey, turn it off. We're done. We can go.
>> Excuse me.
>> Well, you can go now.
>> What?
What? Hi. I didn't know we were here. I
know Lacy said it, but I didn't hear
that.
>> You didn't tell me.
>> I didn't really know.
>> I think it was good in keeping each
other sane. So, thank you so much. I
would also like to thank um the oplog. I
wasn't aware that he was one of Becca's
researchers, but I have since then
gotten a chance to speak to him. Seems
really chill. He had criticisms of me
that were also not very nice, but
honestly seems like a pretty cool guy.
Uh so, thank you so much for at least
having that conversation with me,
especially on live stream. I was
completely random. Oh, how the turns
table. I would also like to thank the
friends and family that were a huge help
in
>> Oh, how the turns table is a [\h__\h]
Greg line. Greg has said that on stream.
>> I stole it from the office.
I hate everything here. I hate
everything here.
>> Moving.
>> Yeah, I was not nice at my criticisms. I
I will I now amend most of them
>> from the internet to just enjoy things
in the real world, you know, things that
actually matter. It's a good reminder
that like there's an entire world out
there that exists and that's the one
that probably will be more
>> different op you silly you [\h__\h]
>> Shout out the
>> you [\h__\h] in the long run. You know,
taking breaks and giving myself time
offline to breathe is so important. So,
you won't be named, but you know who you
are. Thank you. And once again, for ever
entertaining this entire [\h__\h] show and
giving it any platform. I'm I'm so sorry
to Claire, to Michelle, to Saber Spark.
I wish you nothing but peace. And I hope
showing you who Bonk really is
exonerates all of you. I am really so
sorry. Going forward, I hope that
content will continue and you guys
continue to stick around. But if
anything during the duration of this
video has disappointed anyone and it's
not possible for you to support anymore,
it's completely understandable. I I told
>> No, you guys should sub. Okay,
I'm already subscribed.
>> I subscribed. You You earned my
subscription.
>> Here, here,
>> here, here. Lazy, you're getting the up
bump.
>> Uh, how do we How do I do that? How do I
get the sub?
>> Uh, just the top the YouTube the the
URL. URL.
It's literally that. Yes. Grab that
chat.
>> [\h__\h]
>> Do the thing. Like, subscribe. Like,
subscribe. Like. I just put it twice,
but subscribe.
>> You did it more than twice. I know. I
put it in one.
>> Go subscribe to Lazy if you haven't
already. Um, this
I'm not going to cover the interview
just because it's [\h__\h] seven hours
and I'm tired. But
if you've ever wanted to see somebody
take accountability, I I'm going to go
to the title screen real quick. Yes, I
know. I know. I got to get a second one
of these. Um, a very chill guy. Lazy bed
on the new channel. Banner. Yeah, sure.
Uh, listen, if you've ever wanted to see
what taking accountability looks like
for a channel,
that's Lazy Bedhead. Um,
like Lazy really uh uh took
accountability in ways that I don't
think a lot of people in this story
have. Um, especially
>> on the platform can
>> on the platform. Yes. But especially
especially Courtney,
[\h__\h] it. Take responsibility, [\h__\h]
KP, [\h__\h] it. Take responsibility,
[\h__\h] But like,
this is how it should be done,
especially in commentary. Amend your
story, get the facts straight, and clear
your side of the street because that's
all you can do. Literally, that's all
any of us can do, especially if we get a
story wrong.
like that's that's it is the only thing
we can do is do right by people. Um and
the fact that Lazy was able to do that
with a lot of grace and a lot of
humility. Uh I know Beckett said it last
night, but I I will say this now. Um
I have I've been fortunate enough to
talk to a lot of people on the platform
and a lot of people who are humble in
many different ways. Uh, I've never seen
somebody take a criticism like a goddamn
sponge like Lazy has. Um, and her and I
have talked about it. Uh, and again,
I've liked getting to know Lazy. I
seriously have. Um, so again, go
subscribe to Lazy Bedhead if you haven't
already. Um,
just like a stellar, like an actual
stellar person that's wanting to take
accountability. Um, and I do think that
that's
more than anybody could ever ask. And to
me, that's incredibly important. Um, and
that's pretty much it. Greg, any final
thoughts before we go, buddy?
>> Um,
I think there's art in
>> Is there art in the thread that I should
be watching? I should be grabbing real
quick.
>> Uh, let me I'll send it to you. Hold on
one second.
>> I can grab it. I can just grab it. Uh,
>> you got added for one.
>> I got added. Well, I got added for a
work in progress one. I'll
>> Yeah, if you want to do that one.
>> Uh there's a bunch that I see coming. Uh
>> it was the the work in progress one that
I got added. This is the one I was
doing.
>> Here is I I will just repost this.
Obviously, Embry did lovely art of the
oplo with the different people. Here's
Cat. There's Cloudy. There's me and Ash.
There's Greg. There's Diesel. There's D.
Like, this is a really, really good one.
And then I got added for another one.
>> Yes, that one.
>> I saw this one. This is by Yo. Oh god.
Is it Yolo Colo? Is that how you or
Koda? I can't.
>> Or Cola.
>> Cola.
>> Yeah.
>> This is really really cool. I'm very
very excited for this one. I am super
super duper excited to see where this
one's coming. Let me see if there's
anything else on stream chat.
>> The other one. I'm looking at the de the
little diesel doll. That's cute.
>> Yeah, the little diesel doll is cute.
Where's stream chat? Sometimes I I
misplace stream chat. OP talk stream
chat.
>> And then Oh, you got the you got the
gremlin underneath the the bed. The
nightmare one.
>> Oh, underneath the bed. The nightmare
one. Where did I I I did have that up
before. Uh where is it again?
>> You got it right.
>> I can send it your way.
>> Where is it? Where is it? Where is it?
Where is it? Where is it?
>> Embry's insane for posting this. By the
way, I always want to point this out.
Embry, this is like actually like
cursed. Is [\h__\h] a myth? Is wild? By the
way, uh I want I want to end with the
under the bed one. That's why.
>> Sure. Oh, here. I'll add you.
>> I can't find it off the top.
>> I got it right here.
>> There. Okay. Because is in digital art
thread. That's why I like we have so
many threads.
>> A lot of art today. Thank you all so
much.
>> And this is from ad advocate. I am
Bonk's greatest nightmare chat.
I am Bonk's greatest nightmare.
Um, yes. Uh, big big thing before
leaving tonight. Uh, Lazy Bed is going
to go live tomorrow on her platform just
discussing a little bit more of just her
thoughts about the video that was
released. Uh, if you guys can please
show Lazy uh, your love and support. uh
like legitimately I think that this was
a stellar stellar response, a stellar uh
level of accountability and all of those
things. So I am going to end tonight. I
want to thank each and every one of you
very very much. I want to thank all the
tippers donators and everybody in
between. And finally, let me not remiss
from Pinker themselves. It's me as a
little maid boy. They gave me the
shortest skirt possible.
Look at me. Look at me. I'm a little
boy.
Don't Don't Good night. Good night,
everybody. Love, kisses, and everything
in between. It is me, your favorite OP
blocker, OP talker, and all of the maids
here for you all. Don't forget all the
maids here. It's Becca, it's Diesel,
it's me, and it's Chris the Narc.
Remember chat, you are loved, you are
great. We'll see you up time and up
later in op time. Goodbye everybody.